Decision "Soon" on Whether Sessions Will Stay or Go

#BREAKING Decision 'soon' on fate of US attorney general Sessions: White House
— AFP news agency (@AFP) July 25, 2017

Sessions' allies -- including many conservatives -- are angry at how Trump has treated Sessions, including Trump recently tweeting that had he known Sessions would recuse himself in the Russia matter, he'd've never appointed him AG.

Or, like this one:

Attorney General Jeff Sessions has taken a VERY weak position on Hillary Clinton crimes (where are E-mails & DNC server) & Intel leakers!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2017

I don't think Trump can have what he wants here. He seems to be pressuring Sessions to either un-recuse himself and end the Mueller probe or resign so he can appoint someone new who will end the Mueller probe.

The first seems impossible -- Sessions has declared himself conflicted on that issue -- and the latter seems no more likely.

Anyone Trump names as AG nominee will of course be asked -- repeatedly, and with no wiggle room -- if they think Mueller should continue doing his job. No one, not even in DC, is going to claim the Mueller probe should go on just to get confirmed and then turn around and fire him post-confirmation.

Further, I don't even see who would agree to take the job, given Trump's public scoldings of Sessions.

Trump wants something impossible from the AG.

If Trump wants Mueller fired, he's going to have to step up to the plate and do it on his own authority, without trying to find the cover of a lackey to do it for him.

Kurt Schlicter lays out the case for Trump to just man the hell up and fire Mueller -- the right way -- here:

Trump must eventually fire Robert Mueller, a partisan tool carrying water for his Establishment pals as he oversees an utterly corrupt “investigation” where the only person we actually know committed any wrongdoing is his bestest buddy Jim Comey. But Trump can’t just lash out and do it, though it is well within his political and moral right to do so. No, he’s got to do it cleverly, with cunning, in a way that shows the American people exactly why Mueller’s witch hunt is a flaming dumpster fire of conflicts of interest and contempt for the right of normal Americans to have a say in their own governance.
Trump has to set the stage before he pulls the trigger and puts the coup de grace into the temple of this appalling fiasco. He has to do it so the American people will see and understand why ending this idiocy is so absolutely necessary to preserve our Republic despite the mainstream media’s best effort to hide the truth.
Trump needs to seize the initiative from Leaky Bob. You know, I keep hearing how Mueller was this squared-away Marine officer, but through these incessant leaks his organization demonstrates a complete lack of both integrity and discipline. Mueller seems unwilling or unable to exercise any kind of leadership over his team of Hillary donors, or to instill a culture of seriousness and impartiality. The continuing misconduct of his out-of-control, ever-expanding fiefdom demonstrates that he must be relieved of command. And here’s the letter the president should send to him to set the stage to do it....

Huh, maybe Trump should name Schlichter as attorney general. He is a lawyer and an Army cavalry Colonel. Colonels get promoted to general all the time.

BTW: IBD also argues that Mueller's decision to grant himself additional jurisdiction -- and go outside his appointed ambit to search for whatever financial irregularities he can find -- is an automatic firing offense and should be treated as exactly that.

Posted by: Ace at 01:32 PM

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1
May I suggest that the next AG should be....

J. CHRISTIAN ADAMS

For no other reason than to give Holder a coronary.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (mbhDw)

2 And now I have the clash in my brain

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (E4p3I)

3 I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly treating Sessions badly. Sessions has refused to do most of his job from day one.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (rAIG/)

4 Keelhaul him.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:35 PM (LjR2k)

5 Yo, Imma let you finish, but LeBron James had one of the best Decision announcements of. all. time.

Posted by: Kanye West at July 25, 2017 01:35 PM (KUaJL)

6
I want my RICO on Soros and the Clintons.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:35 PM (mbhDw)

7 Corporals get promoted to general all the time.

Huh. *makes note to tell son*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PY9jH)

8 In the past I would have said, don't fire Mueller because the media will make the story explode with the force of 1,000 MOABS.

Now I realize they're going to do that no matter what.
No matter what, some utterly fabricated piece of Russia nonsense will emerge again.

So fire the ruling class hack, tell the media to FOAD, and get back to work.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (72PAC)

9 I'd prefer rum and sodomy with Dana Loesch.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 01:30 PM (0mRoj)

Great minds must think alike.

Just got my latest Shooting Illustrated issue. Her nice, round ample bosom is to die for in that blue shirt for the Carry Guard ad.

If I ever went to an NRA convention, I'd probably get arrested for groping. Totally worth it.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (Jcg9Q)

10 Members of the Clinton Crime Family make poor special prosecutors.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (LjR2k)

11 But Trump can't just lash out and do it, though it is well within his political and moral right to do so. No, he's got to do it cleverly, with cunning, in a way that shows the American people exactly why Mueller's witch hunt is a flaming dumpster fire of conflicts of interest and contempt for the right of normal Americans to have a say in their own governance.

At some point, Mueller has got to pony up or gtfo.

Put up evidence or admit there's nothing there. He is a special counsel, not a special prosecutor. He has a limited mandate.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (Bd48Y)

12 Am I the only person who hears Foghorn Leghorn when Sessions speaks?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PY9jH)

13
Shit status:

[ ] about to get real
[ ] real

Too early to make the call. I do know the left will have nothing but scorched scalps before all this is over.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (EgwCt)

14 >>I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly treating Sessions badly.

Gingrich and Levin aren't conservatives? That will news to them.

Just appoint a special investigator to look into Comey. Start shooting back.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

15 "No one, not even in DC, is going to claim the Mueller probe should go on just to get confirmed and then turn around and fire him post-confirmation."
________

Yeah, saying one thing to get confirmed and then immediately pissing backwards?

What kind of dishonest idiot would ever do that?

Oh. Wait. Never mind.

Posted by: Wise Latina at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (j+dfT)

16 Um, Ace, Kurt was a Colonel.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (Jcg9Q)

17 My last straw with Session was when I heard Little Sisters of the Poor is still being persecuted.

The DoJ must be a bureaucracy the likes of which none of us can conceive. Does Sessions find out about all this shit on the internet and in the papers like the rest of us?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (vg8iE)

18 Corporals get promoted to general all the time.

Posted by: Ace at 01:32 PM

Higher than that, mein fuhrer, er, Ace.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (mbhDw)

19 Have to admit, I just don't get the Sessions replacement talk. Why now? Is the MFM just angling for another scalp?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (JO9+V)

20 Also Trump should just fire Mueller while he is handing out pink slips.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (rAIG/)

21 Trump should appoint an investigator to investigate Mueller.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (zSMr0)

22 Sessions' allies -- including many conservatives -- are angry at how Trump has treated Sessions,
***
This is do or die time. Sessions had failed to "do"...so it is time for him to go.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (eSx+E)

23 I'd be shocked if Sessions doesn't walk.

Trump fucked up here badly. If he had a problem, solve it internally. Don't publicly try to humiliate him.

Sessions was about the only elected Republican willing to endorse Trump early on, that should have counted for something.

I'm starting to think this incredible opportunity Trump has been given will be squandered.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (1+bvq)

24 Trump gets more advice than a referee at a junior. high basketball game.

When are people going to figure out he does what he wants?

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (3myMJ)

25 Much of it is very simple: the AG is not independent like a senator. The AG works for the president. The AG does not announce major policy without clearing it through the boss first. The boss is never to be surprised by the AG's actions.

AG Sessions seems to be having difficulty understanding these little things and acting accordingly.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (hLRSq)

26 Yeah, time to do other things.

Moar hair on fire opera it seems.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (QHd8M)

27 12 Am I the only person who hears Foghorn Leghorn when Sessions speaks?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PY9jH)

No regard for Beauregard? Ah say, ah say, ah say....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (mbhDw)

28 Yeah, saying one thing to get confirmed and then immediately pissing backwards?

What kind of dishonest idiot would ever do that?

Oh. Wait. Never mind.

Posted by: Wise Latina at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (j+dfT)
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Yes. And you were even applauded for giving racist answers to questions at your confirmation.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (vg8iE)

29 Just appoint a special investigator to look into Comey. Start shooting back.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

Good point. Fight fire with fire, assuming you can get a special investigator not bending over for the ruling class.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (72PAC)

30 Am I the only person who hears Foghorn Leghorn when Sessions speaks?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PY9jH)

Ah say HEY DAWG!!!

Posted by: Jeffrey S. at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (Jcg9Q)

31
Actually a conversation between Foghorn Leghorn and the hound dog sounds like Sessions talking to Sanders.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:38 PM (mbhDw)

32 I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly treating Sessions badly.

Gingrich and Levin aren't conservatives? That will news to them.

Just appoint a special investigator to look into Comey. Start shooting back.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

I hadn't heard Levin in a while although he does get odd notions sometimes.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (rAIG/)

33 27 12 Am I the only person who hears Foghorn Leghorn when Sessions speaks?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 01:36 PM (PY9jH)

Sessions reminds me of Henry Gibson

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (O2RFr)

34 Has Sessions even finished cleaning house yet?
The whole place was stuffed full of bigtime SJW'ers by Holder and Lynch.
I don;t know how he's been able to get anything don with the entire DoJ working against him.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (NOIQH)

35 How about you hire an AG who says "I ain't recusing myself from anything. And I don't answer to the President on legal mattes, I follow the law, and ultimately work for the US of A, at the behest of the American people. As for Mueller, I'll decide what to do about him when I get in there and find out what's what."

In other words, the way it should be.

All this nonsense about what Trump can and can't do stops right there. Do the right thing, and quit screwing around playing like it's a chess game.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (TOk1P)

36 >>Good point. Fight fire with fire, assuming you can get a special investigator not bending over for the ruling class.

I'd go with Rudy. He's pretty damn ruthless when he needs to be.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (/tuJf)

37 Sessions allies including many conservatives are angry at how Trump has treated Sessions , including Trump recently tweeting that had he known Sessions would recuse himself in the Russia matter, hedve never appointed him AG.

Then they are not real "conservatives".

It only took me 10 500 errors to post this

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (mpXpK)

38 If I ever went to an NRA convention, I'd probably get arrested for groping. Totally worth it.
____________________
I think that if one were to try to grope Mrs. Loesch, one would get shot.

Posted by: BuckIV at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (CLfqv)

39 New Plan: when the Dems ask whether Mueller should continue his investigation, our nominee should say "Yes, and I think he should even expand it." The Dems will figure he's on their side & confirm him.
Once in office, order Mueller to expand the investigation to include Hillary et al & then simply overwhelm his team with evidence of Hillary's Russian connections.

Posted by: kob at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (55ywz)

40
Interesting if not #FakeNews...

The United States Navy have opened fire on an Iranian warship.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (EgwCt)

41 nominee can refuse to answer on grounds what he would do about Mueller on similar grounds Judicial nominees do not comment on potential cases they might hear.

its not quite as clear no judicial canon of ethics to cite, but the public has already been inoculated with this idea as being kosher.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (xUXis)

42 Sessions was about the only elected Republican willing to endorse Trump early on, that should have counted for something.

--
It did. It got him the job.

Now, he has to produce.

Remember, Trump is a businessman. He expects results. He not a government flunky passing out patronage jobs.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (Bd48Y)

43 So Sessions gives up his Senate seat and gets viciously smeared during an ugly confirmation hearing in exchange for a few months as Attorney General and an early retirement?

Posted by: Art Deal, Esq. at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (qYCgM)

44 Corporals get promoted to general all the time.

The really good ones sometimes make Emperor.

Posted by: Bonaparte at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (Mouru)

45 40
Interesting if not #FakeNews...

The United States Navy have opened fire on an Iranian warship.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (EgwCt)

Warning shots only. Let me know if they hit something.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (mbhDw)

46 The Donald seems to have a process for getting angry at somebody:

1. Get angry
2. Call the person in and get angry in person
3. Wait for a change
4(A). If a change, cool off
4(B). If no change, yell on Twitter.

It's not the usual way of handling things.

(As to firing Mueller...there are going to be impeachment hearings if the GOP loses the House. It WILL happen. Might as well get rid of the impediment until then.)

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (RD7QR)

47 seriously though, can trump be blamed for finding himself surrounded by useless and/or dickless members of the GOP?

That's how he won the nomination after all when he strode on to stage to call the presumptive nominee dickless with an ugly wife.

Gee, session's right on immigration but he can't actually do his job.

Gee, the Senate and House GOP really, goshdarn it, want to repeal Obamacare but ... uh... we really need to look into this russia stuff first.

Who are the people that Trump can nominate to do the jobs they're supposed to do when every GOP leader of any stature appears to be dickless and incompetent?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (AU4SY)

48 "Anyone Trump names as AG nominee will of course be asked -- repeatedly, and with no wiggle room -- if they think Mueller should continue doing his job. No one, not even in DC, is going to claim the Mueller probe should go on just to get confirmed and then turn around and fire him post-confirmation."

Um, unless Trump appoints an AG during an upcoming congressional recess lasting more than 10 days, in which case Trump's choice could handily fire Mueller, then continue serving until January, 2019.

But, oh, my, would tongues wag. Wag, wag, wag.

Posted by: Jamie at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (xuma8)

49 Can Scaramucci do the fandango?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (LjR2k)

50 I don't want to be promoted, I just want out.

Anyone have some Crocs I could borrow?

Posted by: Klinger at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (ctuyM)

51 "Corporal. Corporals get promoted to general all the time."

I was a corporal-captain once.

Posted by: Radar O'Reilly at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (V/f/L)

52 I know it's probably not popular here but trump should lay off of Sessions... At least in public...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (O2RFr)

53 36 >>Good point. Fight fire with fire, assuming you can get a special investigator not bending over for the ruling class.

I'd go with Rudy. He's pretty damn ruthless when he needs to be.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (/tuJf)

See me at 1. Plus Rudy is problematic in other areas.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (mbhDw)

54 What's the source for the decision soon other than #breaking?

Seriously. What's the source? It's literally just a statement there.

I assume that ALL and I do mean ALL stories based on anonymous sources are lies with made up quotes and, yes, that includes stories that say things I want to hear.

Unless and until people stop taking the damn bait, the press will continue to throw out this chum.

So, yeah, you know what? All y'all can run around with your hair on fire. It might be true. It might not be true. But #breaking? Really? Really? We're considering that reliable?

I happened to catch an ad for a local tv news station last night and the entire ad was about how they tell only reliable, fact based stories with their names on it and they are working to earn the viewer's trust. I think that's fascinating. Someone in their marketing department has discovered that the distrust of media extends all the way down and is at least spinning it that the onus is on the media to earn back trust.

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (mf5HN)

55 "I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly
treating Sessions badly. Sessions has refused to do most of his job from
day one."

I wouldn't say I'm upset, but Sessions took a big risk supporting Trump early. If Trump ditches Sessions now for no good reason (recusing isn't a good reason), then he'll show that he's a guy that asks for loyalty and gives none in return.

Posted by: goodluckduck at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (yqvys)

56 Remember, Trump is a businessman. He expects results. He not a government flunky passing out patronage jobs.
Posted by: rickb223

________

Well maybe the "businessman" should make better hires to begin with?

Remember we were promised he was going to surround himself with the "best". Instead its been a revolving door of incompetent idiots.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (1+bvq)

57 If I ever went to an NRA convention, I'd probably get arrested for groping. Totally worth it.
____________________
I think that if one were to try to grope Mrs. Loesch, one would get shot.

Posted by: BuckIV at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (CLfqv)

Still worth it.

Posted by: Jeffrey S. at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (Jcg9Q)

58 This is the problem with the GOP.

They've been culled by the DNC to have only tame sheep. Any Tom Delays or Gingriches have been expelled.

So, who should Trump get to do anything? Everyone with experience seems weak.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (AU4SY)

59 what country boy said at 16 Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (Jcg9Q)

Schlichter was COLONEL. big difference.

Posted by: USMC8541 at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (xGZ+b)

60 Lay off also means fire.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (LjR2k)

61 Just appoint a special investigator to look into Comey. Start shooting back.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

Good point. Fight fire with fire, assuming you can get a special investigator not bending over for the ruling class.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf?

Actually, if it's because possible laws have been broken, appoint a Special Prosecutor.

May I humbly suggest AtC?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (Bd48Y)

62 I think that if one were to try to grope Mrs. Loesch, one would get shot.
Posted by: BuckIV
___________

The Paolo, he has examined himself for bullet wounds, and none to be found. Ever.

Posted by: Paolo at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (j+dfT)

63 Hope Cruz is ready

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (F4kQO)

64 Warning shots only. Let me know if they hit something.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (mbhDw)

At 450 feet kinda hard to miss...

A US Navy ship has fired warning shots at an Iranian Revolutionary Guard vessel in the Gulf, US officials say.

It happened at around 03:00 local time (00:00 GMT), as the Iranian ship began to approach the USS Thunderbolt.

A US defence official said the boat came within 450ft (137m), and ignored radio calls and the ship's whistle.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is a paramilitary force that answers directly to Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

"The IRGCN boat was coming in at a high rate of speed. It did not respond to any signals, they did not respond to any bridge-to-bridge calls, they felt there was no choice except to fire the warning shots," the official told AFP news agency.

The Iranian ship stopped after the warning shots, and the Thunderbolt - accompanied by several US Coast Guard vessels - continued on its way.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (EgwCt)

65 How about you hire an AG who says "I ain't recusing
myself from anything. And I don't answer to the President on legal
mattes, I follow the law, and ultimately work for the US of A, at the
behest of the American people. As for Mueller, I'll decide what to do
about him when I get in there and find out what's what."

In other words, the way it should be.

All this nonsense about what Trump can and can't do stops right
there. Do the right thing, and quit screwing around playing like it's a
chess game.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (TOk1P)

The AG does answer to the President. He serves at the President's will.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (rAIG/)

66 Country Boy,

Is Shooting Illustrated one of the options to get with membership or is it something I'd have to subscribe to?

Willowed:

"Just got my latest Shooting Illustrated issue. "

Is that one of the options for members? If so we might switch either mine or my wife's selection.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (d3wbb)

67 GTFO you boney assed Henry Gibson look alike. We've suffered through enough BS under your weak 'leadership.' GFY.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (mcI77)

68 Sigh

Not sure how this helps the Yankee's Starting pitching?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (5y11N)

69 I don't want to be promoted, I just want out.

Anyone have some Crocs I could borrow?

Posted by: Klinger at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (ctuyM)

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This is your unlucky day. Report at 0500 for sex reassignment surgery.

Posted by: Your New Improved SJW Army, Now with 100% More Plug and Play Vaginas at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (vg8iE)

70 Well maybe the "businessman" should make better hires to begin with?

Remember we were promised he was going to surround himself with the "best". Instead its been a revolving door of incompetent idiots.

****

I guess the stupid party doesn't have any actual people that Trump can nominate without publicly embarassing the whole party.

As I said above, where's the talent pool for trump to find folks who aren't going to run to CNN and say Mueller is super and gee this russia thing is serious and also, gee, maybe we need a two term president and the house and then senate and a 7-2 supreme court to repeal obamacare.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (AU4SY)

71 Well maybe the "businessman" should make better hires to begin with?

You're right. He shouldn't worry about loyalty or "something be worth something" as you suggest.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (Bd48Y)

72 Hope Cruz is ready
Posted by: AlaBAMA

_______

I'm sure Trump is eager to hire the guy that couldn't endorse him at the GOP Convention.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (1+bvq)

73 44 Corporals get promoted to general all the time.

The really good ones sometimes make Emperor.
Posted by: Bonaparte at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (Mouru)

Word

Posted by: Zombie Adolf Hitler at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (7HtZB)

74 Ace,

I know you sometimes read the comments, but I just thought you might want to congratulate Patterico privately.

That is all.

Please keep up the excellent work.

Posted by: NJRob at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (hkj67)

75 Why hasn't Brennan been arrested yet?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (LjR2k)

76 Not interested.

Posted by: Ted Cruz 2020 at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (qYCgM)

77 Schlichter was COLONEL. big difference.
Posted by: USMC8541 at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (xGZ+b)

Meh. Corporal, Colonel, Corpseman. They're all dudes in those fascist military clothes, right?

Posted by: Ex-Prez'nit ShitMidas at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (Mouru)

78 47
seriously though, can trump be blamed for finding himself surrounded by useless and/or dickless members of the GOP?

That's how he won the nomination after all when he strode on to
stage to call the presumptive nominee dickless with an ugly wife.

Gee, session's right on immigration but he can't actually do his job.

Gee, the Senate and House GOP really, goshdarn it, want to repeal
Obamacare but ... uh... we really need to look into this russia stuff
first.

Who are the people that Trump can nominate to do the jobs they're
supposed to do when every GOP leader of any stature appears to be
dickless and incompetent?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (AU4SY)

most all of the people he has fired have been Obama appointees.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (mpXpK)

79 Remember, Trump is a businessman. He expects results. He not a government flunky passing out patronage jobs.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (Bd48Y)

---

Ray Stantz approves

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (PNcou)

80 >>Unless and until people stop taking the damn bait, the press will continue to throw out this chum.

Yes, THIS.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (NOIQH)

81 The problem is Mueller. He doesn't even have a specific crime he is supposed to be investigating, so he can never finish investigating that specific crime. He will just keep on investigating forever. He never should have been appointed in the first place. Sessions' recusal led to Mueller's appointment.

But, past is past. What needs to happen now? Mueller needs to be fired. If Trump fires Sessions to get an AG that will fire Mueller, it will be portrayed as some as a Watergate like thing. Trump would prefer Sessions resign, since he won't do his job. But, if Sessions won't do what needs to be done and won't resign, Trump may be forced to fire him.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (FUu/Z)

82 Corporals get promoted to general all the time.

***

if the GOP leadership consists of people like Jeb and Sessions, then we need to start searching from among the rank and file.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (AU4SY)

83 72
I'm sure Trump is eager to hire the guy that couldn't endorse him at the GOP Convention.
Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (1+bvq)

Times change. As do people (see Jeff Sessions). And my suggestion at #1 stands.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (mbhDw)

84 "Just got my latest Shooting Illustrated issue. "
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Oh, me too!! Which ones are your faves? I like the face shots myself, but sometimes the back shots are good too!

Posted by: Shep! at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (vg8iE)

85 PDT is used to getting results or else...It is actually how Gov. Should be, but alas it is not? Is there not G-D in heaven?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (5y11N)

86 Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (TOk1P)

The AG does answer to the President. He serves at the President's will.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:43 PM (rAIG/)

Nope. He serves as the US of A's legal chief officer.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (TOk1P)

87 This is on Sessions. He hamstrung himself and became impotent in the most important battle in a century. Like him or not, and I do - he's a good man, what choice does Trump have?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (F4kQO)

88 most all of the people he has fired have been Obama appointees.

***

obviously.

the problem is finding replacements.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (AU4SY)

89 Vincent Gambino, Esq. for AG.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (JO9+V)

90 Country Boy,

Is Shooting Illustrated one of the options to get with membership or is it something I'd have to subscribe to?

I picked it when I got my membership.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (Jcg9Q)

91 Unless and until people stop taking the damn bait, the press will continue to throw out this chum.

==========
As a fishermen, let me say that fish not biting does not make me stop throwing out chum. Not biting means more chum.

Also, chum is fum.

Posted by: Patrick Star at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (xUXis)

92 75 Why hasn't Brennan been arrested yet?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (LjR2k)

Openly fomenting insurrection is a hanging offense, no?

And Schemer said the same thing if he fires Sessions. SESSIONS!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (mbhDw)

93 IMHO, there are three types of alpha males:

low alpha
medium alpha
high alpha

I'd say Trump is a high alpha.

Sessions might be a low, or even a medium alpha.

However, in the world that he's in, Trump needs a high alpha.

FFS, people are talking about k*lling the president; a low alpha is not going to do the job that he needs to do to drain the swamp.

It's nothing against Sessions; it's just that he's probably not the right person for the job.

Don't send a rat to do a honeybadgers job.

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (aT+Bx)

94 I'm sure Trump is eager to hire the guy that couldn't endorse him at the GOP Convention.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (1+bvq)

Trump did not deserve Cruz's endorsement... he is lucky Cruz didn't use his time on stage to get really nasty.

And Trump would be stupid to hold a grudge about that at this point.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (rAIG/)

95 You're right. He shouldn't worry about loyalty or "something be worth something" as you suggest.
Posted by: rickb223

_____

I never suggested Sessions should be the Attorney General for an endorsement. I guess Hulk Hogan also deserves a place in the Trump Administration for his endorsement?

My point is, I think Sessions deserved to have this handled better than Trump using tweets and the press to say he regrets hiring him.

Trump should have pulled Sessions aside in private and said "your fired" or "lets' make this work"

That's what a decisive leader does, he doesn't whine to the press.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (1+bvq)

96 Vincent Gambino, Esq. for AG.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (JO9+V)

Yooos is serious bout dat?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (5y11N)

97 Sigh

Not sure how this helps the Yankee's Starting pitching?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:44 PM (5y11N)

Maybe you can get the Iranians to try to plow into them?

My baseball team is being mean to me and looking like they suddenly remembered how to play the game so that means time for a three game losing streak!

Posted by: alexthechick - Racktastic at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (mf5HN)

98 89 Vincent Gambino, Esq. for AG.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (JO9+V)

Gambini.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (mbhDw)

99 I'm no Trump fan ( regard to his style) but Sessions brought this on himself. They are illegally trying to bring down the President who appointed him and he hasn't lifted a finger . That he's playing the victim card through his surrogates makes me dislike him whereas I was a previous Sessions supporter. Should have continued with position of trusting no attorney. Even those that are my personal friends.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (A3edJ)

100 Time to start breeding with other species again. This whole human race thing is O-VER.

Posted by: Repeal and Replace Humans at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (qYCgM)

101 The really good ones sometimes make Emperor.

Or Fuhrer

Posted by: You Know Who at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (qJhUV)

102 Vincent Gambino, Esq. for AG.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (JO9+V)

Everything that Mueller guy just said is bullshit.

Posted by: My Cousin Vinnie at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (Mouru)

103 How about Jerry Callo?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (LjR2k)

104 90,

Thanks

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (d3wbb)

105 I like Cruz a lot but he's more important in the Senate. There are a lot of hard red states and districts with GOPe nominees what snuck in when no one was looking (remember the fight to get Flynn in the House in that red safe illinois seat what the GOP instead chose a democrat?).

There has to be folks who are younger, still smart, and conservative in Heritage or somewhere who can step up.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (AU4SY)

106 Posted by: Art Deal, Esq. at July 25, 2017 01:40 PM (qYCgM)

If you do not follow the boss' policy and in fact oppose it, then you either resign or get fired.

This isn't rocket science.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (hLRSq)

107 Jerry Callo is dead.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (Mouru)

108 Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (1+bvq)

And you know that the WH hasn't done that how?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (A3edJ)

109 Trump should fire Sessions.

And he should quote every single Democrat who criticized Sessions for being a horrible racist.

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (j+dfT)

110 107 Jerry Callo is dead.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (Mouru)

What about Jerry Gallo?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (mbhDw)

111 I wouldn't say I'm upset, but Sessions took a big
risk supporting Trump early. If Trump ditches Sessions now for no good
reason (recusing isn't a good reason), then he'll show that he's a guy
that asks for loyalty and gives none in return.
Posted by: goodluckduck at July 25, 2017 01:41 PM (yqvys)
--------------Remember we were promised he was going to surround
himself with the "best". Instead its been a revolving door of
incompetent idiots.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (1+bvq)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Yep.
Revolving bigly through a beautiful faux-gold door.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (SsblQ)

112 Jerry Callo is dead.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (Mouru)

So is Sessions...LOL...He just does not know it yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (5y11N)

113 Iran learning how close they can get before the firing starts...

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (3myMJ)

114 How about Jerry Callo?

There are no "Yutes"involved here

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (O2RFr)

115 If anyone here thinks Cruz would take this job after seeing how PDT is treating Sessions they are nuts. Ace is right, Trump wants the impossible from Session. Further, you people who think he is worthless have a real problem with reality, sorry. He is exactly what PDT needs - someone who puts in the work, does his job and isn't a prima donna.

Posted by: rammajamma at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (AjNMO)

116 "Trump fucked up here badly."

It was a long string of such.

-- Immediately declaring upon victory that there would be no prosecution or even investigation of Clintonworld's huge corruption, because Bill and Hill "are good people", letting Democrats shift from playing defense to instead playing offense

-- Firing Flynn right off the bat, which Trump obviously intended to quiet the Russia furor, but which merely emboldened the opposition (both Democratic and Republican) by handing them an easy scalp

-- NOT firing Comey right off the bat, when Democrats were uniformly screaming that Comey had thrown the election, and Trump had the perfect pretext in place, to can Comey and frame it as "reaching across the aisle"

-- Picking Sessions as attorney general in the first place (the guy's just too damn elderly, for one thing: if the nominee bears a distinct resemblance to Granny Clampett*, they shouldn't be in a high-pressure long-hours post)

* http://tinyurl.com/ycetz7zt

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (ujwCG)

117 Trump did not deserve Cruz's endorsement... he is lucky Cruz didn't use his time on stage to get really nasty.

And Trump would be stupid to hold a grudge about that at this point.
Posted by: redbanzai

__________

But Cruz was totally in the right to hold his grudge?
You can't have it both ways.

Trump needs an AG with uncompromising loyalty.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (1+bvq)

118 Actually, if it's because possible laws have been broken, appoint a Special Prosecutor.

May I humbly suggest AtC?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:42 PM (Bd48Y)

Because I can be trusted to exercise power with grace and decorum and rationality and discretion.

*nods vigorously*

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (mf5HN)

119 Any chance ... if Trump fires Mueller ... that Sessions resigns in protest ?

'Cause I ain't convinced that Sessions thinks the Mueller thing is out of line.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (Niu5G)

120 14 >>I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly treating Sessions badly.

Gingrich and Levin aren't conservatives? That will news to them.

Just appoint a special investigator to look into Comey. Start shooting back.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

++++

NeverTrumpers are a special case. They will criticism Trump for anything and everything.

Levin is an on-again-off-again NeverTrumper.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (FUu/Z)

121 Yup... when Mueller started going after totally LEGAL Trump finances, even if they WERE with Russia...

He jumped the shark and should have been at the very least, reigned in...

That didn't happen... and expect Trump's financial records to soon leak all over the damn place...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (NgKpN)

122 Vincent Gambino, Esq. for AG.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:46 PM (JO9+V)

Gambini.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (mbhDw)

Gambino. Gambini. It's all gabbagool to me. Capiche?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (JO9+V)

123 Why can't Sessions just hire a vicious underling and let him (or her) deal with this stuff.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (9TU00)

124 How about Bo Dietl?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (5y11N)

125 122
Gambino. Gambini. It's all gabbagool to me. Capiche?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (JO9+V)

"Stupid jerk!!"

- - Paulie Gatto

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (mbhDw)

126 DC circuit court just ruled that 'must have a good reason' to acquire a concealed carry permit is Unconstitutional.

WINNING!

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (mcI77)

127 Loyalty is not at the top of the list of what Trump needs right now. Balls and brains, however.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:51 PM (F4kQO)

128 124 How about Bo Dietl?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (5y11N)

Bo Derek.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:51 PM (mbhDw)

129 Arpaio.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:51 PM (LjR2k)

130 I'd suggest Andrew McCarthy, except he repeatedly vouched for that worm Comey.

*bzzzt. wrong answer. to the sewers with you*

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2017 01:51 PM (6jaju)

131 And you know that the WH hasn't done that how?
Posted by: Jack Sock

______

Because he's not been fired yet?

I mean if someone in the Cabinet is not working out, simply fire him.

Why on Earth would Trump first go to the NY Times to say he wish he had never hired him?

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (1+bvq)

132 126 DC circuit court just ruled that 'must have a good reason' to acquire a concealed carry permit is Unconstitutional.

WINNING!
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (mcI77)

The Constitution is my good reason. But this is very good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (mbhDw)

133 So what it Trump effed up? And did so more than once?

Think about his world.

The day he got the job, people on the other side and in his own party started plotting against him. The MSM collueded with the dems, and is continuing to try to end his presidency.

Put yourself in his position. You have a new, high profile job in a field you've never worked before, and at least 75% of the people you work with are spending most of their every day trying to get you fired. They've even enlisted their friends to help you get fired.

What must that be like?

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (aT+Bx)

134 Levin is an on-again-off-again NeverTrumper.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (FUu/Z)

Levin is a purist.

Unfortunately, that doesn't always work in the real world.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (Jcg9Q)

135 130 I'd suggest Andrew McCarthy, except he repeatedly vouched for that worm Comey.

*bzzzt. wrong answer. to the sewers with you*
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2017 01:51 PM (6jaju)

J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (mbhDw)

136 -- Picking Sessions as attorney general in the first place (the guy's just too damn elderly, for one thing: if the nominee bears a distinct resemblance to Granny Clampett*, they shouldn't be in a high-pressure long-hours post)

* http://tinyurl.com/ycetz7zt
Posted by: torquewrenc

***

and so on and so forth...

all of these are hindsight.

At the end of the day, the "russia probe" is the GOP apparatus buying into DNC propaganda and working to further the DNC's propaganda.

There's so much DNC Obama Clinton crap to potentially investigate but nooooo, the dickless GOP does the DNC's job.

Hindsight says not going after Clinton was wrong.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (AU4SY)

137 Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (1+bvq)

Cruz didn't hold a grudge. He held an opinion of Trump that was well supported.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (A3edJ)

138 Because I can be trusted to exercise power with grace and decorum and rationality and discretion.

And a fvcking flammenwerfer.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (Bd48Y)

139 Meh. Corporal, Colonel, Corpseman. They're all dudes in those fascist military clothes, right?

Posted by: Ex-Prez'nit ShitMidas at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM (Mouru)

Corpseman is my favorite. friggen cadavers. they're everywhere.

My Brother was a Navy Corpsman. "Corpsemen" slays him in the humor department.

sorry for the "slay" pun...couldn't help myself.

Posted by: USMC8541 at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (xGZ+b)

140

Donald Trump is the farkin' BOSS.

He doesnt serve Sessions. Sessions serves the president.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (uvWRL)

141 87 This is on Sessions. He ... became impotent ...
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:45 PM

May I offer a suggestion?

Posted by: Bob Dole at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (ctuyM)

142 What if Mueller's scope expansion is really to take down Clinton?

Checkout ConservativeExplorer's take.

Posted by: He Brews Steel at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (WGcw3)

143 130 I'd suggest Andrew McCarthy, except he repeatedly vouched for that worm Comey.

Posted by: GnuBreed
_________

Screw Andrew McCarthy. He also vouched for Patrick Fitzgerald.

Drain. The. Swamp.

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (j+dfT)

144 A Massachusetts state bill that would outlaw sex between teachers and students 19 years of age and younger, and which is strongly supported by the police, has yet to be endorsed by the state teachers union.

Well low hanging fruit and all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (5y11N)

145 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

======

If anyone thought the howls of "RACIST!1!11!!!" were awful from Democrats over Sessions, I can only imagine what they'd say about Mr. Adams.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (vg8iE)

146 Trump...cleverly, with cunning

The fuck did i just read?

Posted by: Joe at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (lXME9)

147 Cruz didn't hold a grudge. He held an opinion of Trump that was well supported.
Posted by: Jack Sock

_________

That he couldn't be endorsed over Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (1+bvq)

148 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

That would be a good choice then.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (mcI77)

149 Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (1+bvq)

It was a catch 22 just like firing Comey now .

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (A3edJ)

150 Yay, constitution.

Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (F4kQO)

151 Arpaio.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Too old. Sheriff Joe is 81 or 82.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (Bd48Y)

152 If Trump wants Mueller fired, he's going to have to step up to the plate and do it on his own authority, without trying to find the cover of a lackey to do it for him.
===========================

1. The GOP-E loathes Trump. Trump is a threat to DC Establishment and the Spice Flow.

2. If Sessions goes, then the No. 2 is promoted back to Acting AG. The current No. 2 is a hard-core Dem and is the guy who appointed Mueller in the first place. He hasn't reined in Mueller's far-afield investigations, has he?

3. I agree with Ace. Trump will have to do the heavy lifting and fire Mueller. And he'll have to fire No. 2 guy, too. Maybe Trump should keep firing people in the DoJ until he finds someone who will play straight.

4. And if 3., then let's see how the GOP-E plays it. We have 50+1 votes in the Senate. They'll have to answer to the voters, too.

Posted by: mrp at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (Pqytn)

153 They have teachers younger than 19?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (LjR2k)

154 Corrupt media + Democrat psychopathy + GOP incompetence + GOP circular firing squad = I GIVE UP, LIFE'S TOO FUCKING SHORT.

Posted by: Armenia of One at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (qYCgM)

155 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (mbhDw)

The Danish fairy tale storyteller? He's dead.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (JO9+V)

156 148 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

That would be a good choice then.
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (mcI77)

Immediately announce the prosecution of the NBP and BLM.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (mbhDw)

157 Because I can be trusted to exercise power with grace and decorum and rationality and discretion.
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And a fvcking flammenwerfer.
=====
And completely unfettered by scruples

Posted by: Patrick Star at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (w+QnB)

158 A Massachusetts state bill that would outlaw sex between teachers and students 19 years of age and younger, and which is strongly supported by the police, has yet to be endorsed by the state teachers union.
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Defining deviancy down.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (vg8iE)

159 Trump should have pulled Sessions aside in private and said "your fired" or "lets' make this work"

That's what a decisive leader does, he doesn't whine to the press.
Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:47 PM (1+bvq)

Once again, you don't know if that meeting has already happened in private or not.

You don't think Trump, the Billionaire who has run successful companies, knows how to MANAGE PEOPLE?

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (NgKpN)

160 145 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

======

If anyone thought the howls of "RACIST!1!11!!!" were awful from Democrats over Sessions, I can only imagine what they'd say about Mr. Adams.

****

a truly smart and brave GOP would indeed weigh potential cries of "ryacisisiist!!!" from the DNC before each and every action. The DNC doesn't use those charges lightly.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (AU4SY)

161
The only reason there is a special prosecutor is because Trump appointed Sessions to be AG and Sessions had several meetings with the Russian ambassador in his duty as a senatorwhich nobody has proven Trump was even aware of..At the first whiff of grapeshot Sessions Retreats and leaves Trump and his campaign team to deal with the mess Sessions created

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (lKyWE)

162 This "Sessions kerfuffle" is the kind of "news" "story" that fills the 24-hour-news-cycle when in fact nothing significant actually happens on a day.

It's low-level manufactured filler-news.

Newscasters, on days like this, should go on air and say, "I realize that as a 24-hour news station we are theoretically required to announce news events 'round the clock, but in all seriousness not much is happening at the moment, so we're shutting down the station for a while until a real newsworthy event occurs. Everybody watching, just go outside and enjoy yourselves."

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (DQ4Fv)

163 Sorry, I misread that teacher comment. My bad. Strike my comment, please.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (vg8iE)

164 155
The Danish fairy tale storyteller? He's dead.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (JO9+V)

Morrie went down to the boulevard to get Belle some danish.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (mbhDw)

165
I like Cruz a lot but he's more important in the Senate. There are a
lot of hard red states and districts with GOPe nominees what snuck in
when no one was looking (remember the fight to get Flynn in the House in
that red safe illinois seat what the GOP instead chose a democrat?).

There has to be folks who are younger, still smart, and conservative in Heritage or somewhere who can step up.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:48 PM (AU4SY)

I agree... the ONLY place Cruz should consider leaving the Senate for is SCOTUS.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (rAIG/)

166 He is the very model of a modern attorney general.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (IqV8l)

167 128 124 How about Bo Dietl?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 01:50 PM (5y11N)

Bo Derek.
____________________________

Or Bocephus.

Posted by: Hank Williams Jr. at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (4AVeu)

168 Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:54 PM (1+bvq)

You may disagree with that opinion but it wasn't based on a grudge.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (A3edJ)

169 DC circuit court just ruled that 'must have a good reason' to acquire a concealed carry permit is Unconstitutional."

*sigh*

Mentioned that earlier today, but it's all Russia, Russia, Something, Russia.

Seriously - who gives a flying fark?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (MINbv)

170 "Because I can be trusted to exercise power with grace and decorum and rationality and discretion."

What the hell-good would that be? Where's your corgis-with-flamethrowers? That's what is needed - a short, easily riled person with boots, a step stool, and a pack of corgis-with-flamethrowers.

Decorum and rationality - ha!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (hLRSq)

171 If you think you've seen hysterics up to now, wait'll you see what happens if Trump cans Mueller.

It'll be Watergate all over again.

What do I think? I don't really know. I'm pretty certain that there wasn't a single special prosecutor during eight years of Obama. The Dems will never, ever call for another special prosecutor on a Dem president. Not after what happened with Billy Jeff. I don't know if you can find one who isn't partisan or biased in some way. We're firmly in the Age of You Will Take a Side.

It'll be interesting to see the shit storm if Trump pulls the trigger on Mueller. Go long on popcorn futures.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (4ErVI)

172 Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse?
---

NRA- blue collar guys who want to get things done

GOPe- country club types who won't brawl, or even talk about brawling. It's "beneath them old sport."

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (aT+Bx)

173 ... that was well supported.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM]/i]

Preach it!

Posted by: Jacques Le Strappe at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (ctuyM)

174 154 Corrupt media + Democrat psychopathy + GOP incompetence + GOP circular firing squad = I GIVE UP, LIFE'S TOO FUCKING SHORT.

***

I know. right? What the fuck, GOP. You're worthless, GOP.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (AU4SY)

175 If Sessions is indeed leaving, it would be a good time for Trump to just clean house and get it over with.

This death by a thousand cuts from former Obama people has to stop.

Just fire everyone in the DOJ and start fresh.

It's constant outrage 24/7, might as well make the outrage useful.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (1+bvq)

176 "Levin is an on-again-off-again NeverTrumper."

So he's not a never Trumper by definition.

Posted by: goodluckduck at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (yqvys)

177 From the LA Times

Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions confronted increasing questions about his future as he faced fresh public slaps from his boss, President Trump, and new calls to testify about his conversations with the Russian

he does work for Trump.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (mpXpK)

178 If Sessions goes, I'd bet the Democrats in the Senate delay a replacement for months

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (e8kgV)

179 a truly smart and brave GOP would indeed weigh potential cries of "ryacisisiist!!!" from the DNC before each and every action. The DNC doesn't use those charges lightly.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (AU4SY)

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Oh, I'm not at all saying anyone should be afraid of their accusations or that they have any merit, it's just that I can hear it all now.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (vg8iE)

180
If Trump cans Mueller, PDT all but guarantees his reelection.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (mbhDw)

181 DC circuit court just ruled that 'must have a good reason' to acquire a concealed carry permit is Unconstitutional."

*sigh*

Mentioned that earlier today, but it's all Russia, Russia, Something, Russia.

Seriously - who gives a flying fark?
Posted by: Anon a mouse

Those in NY, NJ, IL & CA?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (Bd48Y)

182 Wonder when Mueller is going to "expand" his probe to include the DNC, Fusion GPS, and the Clintons.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (9TU00)

183 Bo Derek. "

Wood.

/yesterday'sthread

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (MINbv)

184 Everyone in the professional political class at the federal level is compromised. Every. One. Of them. No exceptions.

If they weren't compromised, they wouldn't have been allowed to remain in office by those who own and operate the uniparty.

Posted by: Grimmy at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (m+qrc)

185
Since this has escalated publicly then OBVIOUSLY Sessions is being a SHIT to his boss, the president.

Sessions sucks. He needs Go Now.

Ttump NEVER turns on those loyal yo him. Never. Sessions is to blame here.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (uvWRL)

186 150

Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse?

Because they are weak, dumb, and corrupt but, mostly dumb.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 01:57 PM (mcI77)

187 Do you really think Trump would signal his displeasure with Sessions through Twitter? Trump can call up Sessions at any time and tell him how he feels. He doesn't need to do it through Twitter.

This is all political theater and the press and everyone else is falling for it.

Already Sen. Machin says Sessions should stay. A Democrat insisting Sessions should stay? Do you not see the operation here? Get Dems to publicly say they think Sessions should stay. Then watch as Sessions lays the hammer down on Dems somehow.

As it was said this morning on Fox Business, before Sessions even got in the door at DOJ it was well-known he'd have to recuse himself due to DOJ policy and Sessions' role on the campaign. Do you really think Trump was surprised by Sessions recusal?

And another thing, why would Trump choose the #fakenews NYT for revealing his displeasure in Sessions in the first place? Does that make any sense to you?

Get a grip. Sessions not going anywhere. Would Trump really want Sessions to go and then have to appoint someone else that will take months? I just cannot imagine that at all. All over some ridiculous notion that Sessions hasn't gone after Clinton or Dems?

My guess is Sessions has been working on that stuff behind the scenes, quietly and waiting for the right moment to strike. I'm sure he and Trump have talked on the phone or when he comes over for cabinet-level meetings. You think Trump would do this only via tweets??? RIDICULOUS.

Posted by: K-E at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (uOEHQ)

188 Those in NY, NJ, IL & CA"

So those who didn't vote for President Trump anyway, and never will vote for anyone to the right of the FSA.

F'em.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (MINbv)

189 182 Wonder when Mueller is going to "expand" his probe to include the DNC, Fusion GPS, and the Clintons.

****

did you manage to write that without enduring a laughing fit?

The law doesn't apply to those people, duh.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (AU4SY)

190 Sessions serves the president.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 01:53 PM (uvWRL)

-------------------------------
He should be serving the US Government on behalf of the American people at the appointment of President Trump.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (SsblQ)

191 Look ... I missed on Sessions too. I thought the guy wouldn't be so limp-dicked.

But looking back - it seems so obvious now. No insider - and anyone in the Senate as long as Sessions is an insider - is going to dismantle a smidge of the DC machine.

But I have no idea how Trump gets anyone confirmed who is willing to dismantle even a smidge of the machine.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (Niu5G)

192 Ahh say, ahh say, we just need to tweak them lil ole civil asset forfeiture lawz and we'll have this heaah Hill runnin' like a fine tuned top.

Ain't nuttin moar important than legalized stealin' from the public, ahh say ahh say.

Then we'll blame the dawg.

Posted by: Foghorn Sessions at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (6jaju)

193 176 "Levin is an on-again-off-again NeverTrumper."

So he's not a never Trumper by definition.
Posted by: goodluckduck at July 25, 2017 01:56 PM (yqvys)

Mark Levin is not a fan of PDT for sure. But he is NOT a Never-Trumper at all. In fact, he has defended him to the hilt in this Russia crap.

You can argue about the veracity of his various disagreements with him on policy grounds, but Mark Levin ain't no Bill Kristol.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (mbhDw)

194 Didn't Sessions recuse himself after questions from that fraudulently elected Al Franken?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (FJr2+)

195 They haven't repealed Obamacare yet?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (LjR2k)

196
Because I can be trusted to exercise power with grace and decorum and rationality and discretion.

====

And a fvcking flammenwerfer.

=====

And completely unfettered by scruples

Posted by: Patrick Star at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (w+QnB)

Oh, our Queen is plenty fettered. Has to be else The Rack would cause damage like two bulls loose in a china shop.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (JO9+V)

197 Because they are weak, dumb, and corrupt but, mostly dumb. "

You said dumb twice.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (MINbv)

198 Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse?

______

Also because people in the NRA actually care about the issue they are fighting for.

Can you say the same for the GOPe and actual conservative issues?

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (1+bvq)

199 of course, back in January, no one knew that the GOP would run with Crooked Hillary's last minute ego assuasion as their policy goal.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (AU4SY)

200 Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse?
Posted by: AlaBAMA
______

They don't EVER try to "reach across the aisle".

They don't EVER concede that their opponents are anything other than gun-grabbing totalitarians.

They ridicule and taunt every single politician who advocates for "common sense gun safety measures".

The NRA's effective approach to dealing with its opponents is what has convinced me that the GOP is not serious about doing anything it promises. Otherwise it would adopt the NRA's tactics.

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 01:59 PM (j+dfT)

201
No, the AG serves the President.

President serves The People.

President is BOSS.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (uvWRL)

202 Bo Derek

Now we're back to rum and sodomy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

203 the problem with the Russia Russia Russia stuff is that it puts the admin on the defensive.

He should arrange investigations into GPS fusion,

Voter Fraud

House IT scandal

Clinton GloboScam

They want hot investigation narratives with juicy leaks, given them TIDAL WAVES.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (MLfEV)

204 >>He should be serving the US Government on behalf of the American people at the appointment of President Trump.

I'm starting to suspect that some people aren't really interested in the law. They just want Republicans to act like liberals.

That should work out well.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (/tuJf)

205 Now we're back to rum and sodomy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

============

I'm hot, juiced and ready for ya, baby!

Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (vg8iE)

206 Sessions is too indecisive. The George McLellan of our time.

Like Yorktown, with the enemy straight ahead, and despite overhwelming military numbers, he ruminates and squanders his advantage to time and indecision, equally afraid of both winning and losing.

We need a U.S. Grant.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (4AVeu)

207 Red Hot Chili Peppers: under the bridge.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (xAvrH)

208 If Trump cans Mueller, PDT all but guarantees his reelection.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
_____

If a new AG is installed, doesn't that remove the entire reason for the recusal and special counsel?

Sessions recused himself, not every acting AG forever

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (1+bvq)

209 The DoJ must be a bureaucracy the likes of which
none of us can conceive. Does Sessions find out about all this shit on
the internet and in the papers like the rest of us?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 01:37 PM (vg8iE)

That's how I found out stuff.

Posted by: Barry the Worst, God-Emperor in His Own Mind at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (8iiMU)

210 Trump could pull an Eagles and open up the DOJ jobs to anyone willing to step up and clean house. Has to be a few Vince Papale's out there willing to go after these corrupt assholes

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (F4kQO)

211 Sessions CGFH (Can Go something Himself)

the full weight of the DOJ should be in cracking the Clinton Crime Ring, rounding up all the sanctuary city politicians under 8 USC 1324, bagging Soros for funding violent riots, and rolling up the entire web of democong subversion up under RICO
(see http://tinyurl.com/demrico)

I don't really care how many upper-middle class bobbleheads are upset by enforcing the law, and I don't care how many urban riots there are (it's why God invented the riot gun, after all)

Let's get some teeth into cleaning this country up...if Sessions wasn't willing to do that, p*ss on him

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (swEzU)

212
Dont forget: Sessions fucking up the Travel Ban is part of this, too.

He sucks. Sessions is a lousy AG.
Gotta go.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (uvWRL)

213 Those in NY, NJ, IL & CA"

So those who didn't vote for President Trump anyway, and never will vote for anyone to the right of the FSA.

F'em.
Posted by: Anon a mouse...

I'm sure Tim in IL & Zombie wouldn't mind having a CHL.
And JJ & NGU. And possibly CBD.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (Bd48Y)

214 The Senate is a Good Ol' Boys network that is bipartisan in that respect. The GOPe Senators would be furious if Sessions was fired. The Dem Senators would be elated.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (C7iuw)

215 I get up to go to the bathroom, and the TV in the office shows the headline "Seen. Dean Heller votes no on healthcare bill". By the time I come back, it says "Seen Heller changes vote to yes".

Is this vote going to be a shit show? Did he accidentally hit the wrong button, troll Dems, or get a nasty call after the "no".

Plus, now I see they aren't voting on repeal, but some bull shit "skinny" bill? WTF is wrong with these people?

Posted by: Grimaldi at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (V/f/L)

216
But I have no idea how Trump gets anyone confirmed who is willing to dismantle even a smidge of the machine.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (Niu5G)

Recess Appointment?

Get a hell raiser in there for 1 Year?

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (NgKpN)

217 I'm frankly baffled by all this. If Trump has this much of a beef, why is he having it on Twitter and not at a Cabinet meeting sidebar?

I mean, WTF? Is he not discussing his plans ans goals for his Attorney General on at least a semi-regular basis?

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (FwQPE)

218 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (mbhDw)

I love this idea. J. Christian Adams has more than a few bones to pick with the Chinless Wonder.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (PY9jH)

219 *sends scab comments to bust bicentennial guy's comment strike*

What the hell-good would that be? Where's your corgis-with-flamethrowers? That's what is needed - a short, easily riled person with boots, a step stool, and a pack of corgis-with-flamethrowers.

Decorum and rationality - ha!
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (hLRSq)

I AM NOT EASILY RILED!

Speaking of corgis, as we always should be, did Corgfefe win the corgi naming contest?

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (mf5HN)

220
Jeff Sesions proved himself to be the George W Bush of Attorneys General.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (uvWRL)

221
Here's a firing offense as well.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybfy3yu2

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (1hM1d)

222 218 J. Christian Adams would be a giant sized fuck you to Holder.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 01:52 PM (mbhDw)

I love this idea. J. Christian Adams has more than a few bones to pick with the Chinless Wonder.

***

What about Haven Monahan as the next Sec Education?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (AU4SY)

223

Sessions is just another GOP Cuck.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (uvWRL)

224 "Question - why in the fuck is the NRA so damned effective at fighting for one constitutional right and winning and changing hearts and minds all over this great country but Republicans can't get laid in a pre-paid whorehouse? "

Republican's just pay to sit in the corner and watch while the DNC gets yucky with the country.

Cuckservative was an accurate term and needs to be brought back.

Posted by: He Brews Steel at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (y67bA)

225 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 25, 2017 01:55 PM (4ErVI)

At the beginning there was no real controversy of the Mueller appointment even in light of his relationship with Comey. That was accepted as a one off.

Then he started hiring Dem stooges and expanding his investigation. That's when the garbage started to really stink.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (A3edJ)

226 >>>No one, not even in DC, is going to claim the Mueller probe should go on just to get confirmed and then turn around and fire him post-confirmation.

I saw that episode of TOS. The Kaganite Manuever.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 25, 2017 02:04 PM (nFwvY)

227 What about Haven Monahan as the next Sec Education?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (AU4SY)

heh

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 02:04 PM (PY9jH)

228 Dont forget: Sessions fucking up the Travel Ban is part of this, too.

He sucks. Sessions is a lousy AG.
Gotta go.
Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (uvWRL)

???

I don't think Sessions was AG yet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:04 PM (5y11N)

229 220
Jeff Sesions proved himself to be the George W Bush of Attorneys General.

*********

ouch. but true.

But in Session's defense, he may be doing stuff we can't see. We know the deep state left landmines throughout the govt. He may have to proceed slowly in some parts.

remember how obama changed the pecking order at DOJ so that if one person was fired the next person was an ever deeper bluer obama drone?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 02:04 PM (AU4SY)

230 Oh, our Queen is plenty fettered. Has to be else The Rack would cause damage like two bulls loose in a china shop.
=========
Like built in air bags designed to cushion falls from a fairly low height?

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (Lutdd)

231 Count me as not smart enough to see Trump's end game in all this and how it improves his ability to be an effective POTUS (as defined by him). I'm not anti-Trump, just don't see how all this nonsense helps. It doesn't even seem valuable as a distraction.

Posted by: steve walsh at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (hloNl)

232 Trump might have to do hundreds of recess appointments ... the whole lower tier of schedule C

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (9TU00)

233 I'm starting to suspect that some people aren't really interested in the law. They just want Republicans to act like liberals.

That should work out well.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (/tuJf)

Welcome to the world of playing by the rules as they exist, not as we want them to be.

I do not want to play Will To Power. I know how this story ends. All evidence points to my having lost that argument.

Okie dokie.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mf5HN)

234 205 Now we're back to rum and sodomy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

============

I'm hot, juiced and ready for ya, baby!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 25, 2017 02:01 PM (vg8iE)

Rum + Sodomy = Rumody?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mbhDw)

235 Legitimate question: Who exactly is Mueller accountable to in an official, direct-report sense? Once unleashed (by whom, exactly) is he free to do whatever, however, for however long until he decides otherwise? Is there a Committee in the Senate or House with oversight?

I can't believe there is no one who could officially set parameters for his investigation without simply firing him (which would I think create an immediate firestorm if impeachment demands).

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (QtQaN)

236 227 What about Haven Monahan as the next Sec Education?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 02:03 PM (AU4SY)

You spelt my name wrong.

But I accept.

Posted by: Hannah Montana at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (72PAC)

237 Am I imagining the Franken questioning of Sessions?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (FJr2+)

238 George McLellan of our time.

Like Yorktown"

Que?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (MINbv)

239 Those in NY, NJ, IL & CA"

So those who didn't vote for President Trump anyway, and never will vote for anyone to the right of the FSA.

Umm-Quite a few people in NJ and NY voted for Trump. They were just overwhelmed by voters from large cities.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (iVOAv)

240 Rum + Sodomy = Rumody?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mbhDw)

It's good for what ails ya!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (0mRoj)

241 Rum + Sodomy = Rumody?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (mbhDw)

Romantic Comedy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (mbhDw)

242 "I'm frankly baffled by all this. If Trump has this much of a beef, why is he having it on Twitter and not at a Cabinet meeting sidebar?

I mean, WTF? Is he not discussing his plans ans goals for his Attorney General on at least a semi-regular basis?"

Didn't he start this beef with Sessions with NYT reporters? The purveyors of fake news?

Is it so hard to think it's just more Kayfabe on his part?

Posted by: He Brews Steel at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (Mv/2X)

243 Now we're back to rum and sodomy.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Lash LaRue at July 25, 2017 02:06 PM (ctuyM)

244 Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 01:58 PM (Niu5G)

Recess Appointment?

Get a hell raiser in there for 1 Year?
Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 02:02 PM (NgKpN)

Not a bad idea. One year of the kind of shit-storm an actual reformer would face may be all any man can endure.

Not a bad idea at all.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:07 PM (Niu5G)

245 200 They don't EVER try to "reach across the aisle".

Ahem. *Shows off shiny new NRA endorsement back in 2000*

Posted by: Hairy Reed at July 25, 2017 02:07 PM (6jaju)

246 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 01:39 PM (mpXpK)

Vic!

We've missed you! Plus your neighbor has been looking for you!

Posted by: Chilling the most at July 25, 2017 02:07 PM (9Ej78)

247 Do not take MFM narrative on here - I don't think that Trump wants or expects Sessions - or his replacement - to fire Mueller. I think that is a different question. While the Sessions recusal pretty much led directly to Mueller, unrecusing doesn't undo it, and I don't see how unrecusing would work. It isn't even a word. You just can't publicly take the position that it is required by principle to recuse, and then go, well, no on second thought, it doesn't.

The problem, as I said, is that all the stuff about the election (Russia Russia Russia) is the above the waterline stuff that DoJ is doing. All the duck swimming below the waterline is still happening and probably as good as it could be. Hooray, we are trying to break MS13's spine and indicting 500 people who bilked Medicare for BILLIONS of dollars is good and honorable work but it is below the waterline.

The above the waterline stuff Sessions recused himself out of. He did not just take himself out of Russia but every single thing related to the campaign (oh, and anyone who had ANYTHING to do with the campaign is going to be held to the same standard) and that would include Hillary, and it isn't like the timeservers over there are going to pick up that and run with it without leadership from the top.

Sessions recusing may have been correct, but it was wrong to do it without consulting the WH - they were surprised by it and have been reacting ever since. He should have gone to meet the President and said this is where I stand on it and if Trump said you can't recuse yourself he could have resigned right then.

What has happened now is that the President does not have an advocate at DoJ for the things he most needs.

It isn't unusual for the AG to be closely connected to the President, but it is unusual to have the fury of the whole Russia thing around it. Trump needs an AG that was not connected to his campaign so that he does not have to accuse.

And it has to be someone who has the balls to answer the question - because it will come - will they fire Mueller to state unequivocally that they cannot say yes or no because they are not in the position to do so. That they they don't have the intent coming in, but cannot rule it out because what if there is misconduct or misuse of government resources blah blah blah and I will not let the rule of law or the best interests of this country be compromised by promising to limit my own authority or freedom of action, Senator, thank you very much.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:07 PM (Il37q)

248
So who trust Sessions in the coming fight against sanctuary cities?

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 02:07 PM (lKyWE)

249 Though I tend to agree that Sessions has it coming, Trump has gone about this the wrong way. You yell at subordinates behind closed doors, if at all possible. He should have just privately told Sessions to resign or be fired, if that's what Trump wants. Twitter is not the right tool for every job.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 25, 2017 02:08 PM (Z+ic4)

250 "Ace is right, Trump wants the impossible from Sessions."

Other people in the White House have also been put in an impossible position by Trump. Consider the utterly ludicrous sequence of events and statements which followed on Trump's private meeting with Lavrov and Kislyak.

WaPo: Trump burned a closely held classified source
WaPo: While speaking off the cuff in the Oval Office
WaPo: A grave breach especially to OMG RUSSIA
Spicer: Nuh-uh
Spicer: No he dint
Sanders-Huckabee: Rully
Sanders-Huckabee: As if
Sanders-Huckabee: Not going to dignify this with a response
Tillerson: Preposterous gobbledegook
McMaster: I was right there in the meeting myself
McMaster: The president said absolutely nothing untoward
McMaster: It's a nothingburger with a side of nullity fries
McMaster: Move along
Trump: The WaPo was right for once
Trump: You bet I said what I said
Trump: And I have every right as President to have said it
Trump: I'd say it again tomorrow
Trump: Loudly, in public
Spicer: ...
Sanders-Huckabee: ...
Tillerson: ...
McMaster: Well, crap
McMaster: I worked 40 years to build a rep as a straight shooter
McMaster: And my boss blew it all up in one 24 hour news cycle
McMaster: But despite that, it's all totes okay, you see
McMaster: Because the President didn't consciously err
McMaster: He was just factually ill informed and out of his depth
The Israelis: We're the ones whose source got burned
Netanyahu: I'm especially personally pissed off over this
Mossad: We're curtailing future intelligence sharing
The media: ADMINISTRATION IN TOTAL CHAOS FILM AT 11
The Republicans: [whimpering, wetting selves, fleeing in panic]
The Democrats: Sorry, laughing too hard to be able to speak
Me: If I shoot myself in the head with two pistols simultaneously, it does increase the likelihood of a successful suicide, right?

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:08 PM (ujwCG)

251 A lot of the this Trump/Sessions slap fight makes think its all for show. Trump is distancing himself from Sessions so Sessions can fire Mueller or go after a politically hot potato - the DNC/House Email scandal/Clintons etc

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 02:08 PM (9TU00)

252
"We need a U.S. Grant."

That's Trump. Can we clone him?

Every time someone asks me what I think of Trumpkins, and points out that he's rude, crude and socially unacceptable, I respond with Lincoln's quote about Grant: I can't spare him, the man fights.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at July 25, 2017 02:09 PM (1hM1d)

253 Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:00 PM (/tuJf)

I don't think people want Sessions to act like the liberals. They just don't want him working with the liberals. He shouldn't have to avoid investigating their wrongdoing which is massive just so he can keep the veneer of being non partisan.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 02:09 PM (A3edJ)

254 Do not take MFM narrative on here"

Wait just a sec - you try'n to tell us that stories might not be one hunnerd percent as they're reported?

Why, where would you get that idea?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:09 PM (MINbv)

255 Oh, our Queen is plenty fettered. Has to be else The Rack would cause damage like two bulls loose in a china shop.

=========

Like built in air bags designed to cushion falls from a fairly low height?

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (Lutdd)

*puts on running shoes*
I don't have to outrun the Ravage now, I just have to outrun you. I have a chance to live.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2017 02:09 PM (JO9+V)

256 Schummer still jerking off on the house floor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:10 PM (5y11N)

257 The lefty press has been up in arms about the threat of righty violence against the press. Well, it finally happened.

Except, and this won't shock anyone here, it was in Brooklyn (the home of cool lefty hipsters) and the victim is a righty commentator/pundit.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8kt8ler

It's always the left that is violent and I assume that is what happened here.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at July 25, 2017 02:10 PM (ylUqT)

258 I'm comparing the last months of Obama to the first months of Trump.

Other than entertainment, nothing in my life has changed for better or worse.

I do like Trump's pipeline approvals, his jawboning that has had an immediate chilling effect on illegal border crossings, and his removal of 840 Obama era regulations, exec orders, etc.

As for congress, same as always, no change. They are there for each other, not for us.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:10 PM (3myMJ)

259 229 220
Jeff Sesions proved himself to be the George W Bush of Attorneys General.

*********

ouch. but true.

But in Session's defense, he may be doing stuff we can't see. We know the deep state left landmines throughout the govt. He may have to proceed slowly in some parts.

remember how obama changed the pecking order at DOJ so that if one person was fired the next person was an ever deeper bluer obama drone?
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 02:04 PM (AU4SY)

Has Sessions found any leakers?
Has Sessions FIRED anyone in the DOJ?
Hell, has Sessions HIRED any Conservative Staff and Lawyers for the DOJ?

I was in the US Navy when President Reagan was elected, and the Change in the military was immediate in some places.... but in others was slow...

Why? Because some Commanders believed in the change... others... did not... and had to be shown the way...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 02:11 PM (NgKpN)

260 245 200 They don't EVER try to "reach across the aisle".

Ahem. *Shows off shiny new NRA endorsement back in 2000*
Posted by: Hairy Reed
________

Agreed. That was a freaking travesty. Little Dick Wrangler had always been a reliable 2A vote.

I think the NRA learned that Dims are always totalitarians first. Sorta like the pro-lifers found out with Bart Stupak.

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 02:11 PM (j+dfT)

261
What? no "should I stay or should I go?" video?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:11 PM (r+sAi)

262 I'm frankly baffled by all this. If Trump has this much of a beef, why is he having it on Twitter and not at a Cabinet meeting sidebar?
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Because he wants him to resign and he won't.

he's now trying to embarrass him into resigning.

If he has to fire him, it'll mean there will be republican votes for impeachment. (there already are there, but they don't want it to be known publicly yet. This will give them cover because *THE OUTRAGE TO HIS SACRED HONOR*

So, its like a chess game. Some moves are trapped and you have to pay a price if you want to take that piece off the board.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:11 PM (NF6FK)

263 Mueller was originally appointed by G.W. Bush a devout RINO. He was renewed by Obama so that tells you all you need to know.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:12 PM (mpXpK)

264 >>Welcome to the world of playing by the rules as they exist, not as we want them to be.

Not really. I still believe in the primacy of the rule of law not men and I don't think that position gets advanced by adopting their rules. It gets advanced by making them play by mine.

If we agree to doing whatever to advance our cause then there is no point to arguing about any of this because the game is already over. And they won.

I get that Trump is frustrated by a number of topics including the Dems doing an unprecedented slow walk of his nominees. But I don't think he is always fighting back in the smartest and most productive ways.

I don't see any win here by publicly humiliating Sessions for following the law. He spend a few more tweets highlighting that Sessions is doing the right thing unlike the 2 AGs we had for the last 8 years. Lots of gold in that mine and he might actually win support instead of angering a lot of people who are on his own team.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:12 PM (/tuJf)

265
Though I tend to agree that Sessions has it coming, Trump has gone about this the wrong way. You yell at subordinates behind closed doors, if at all possible. He should have just privately told Sessions to resign or be fired, if that's what Trump wants. Twitter is not the right tool for every job.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 25, 2017 02:08 PM (Z+ic4)

So CNN can leak the breaking news of turmoil in the White House and put what ever spin they want on it?

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 02:12 PM (lKyWE)

266 In soviet Amerika, the swamp drains you.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 02:13 PM (lIZQs)

267 Oh, and there seem to have been improvements at the VA, so that's good.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:13 PM (3myMJ)

268 "Trump wants something impossible from the AG."
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I think Trump is still pissed about the recusal but he is also growing tired of Sessions pussy-footing around Hillary issues and blatant leaking issues he could easily prosecute, but isn't. Trump just wants Sessions to grow some balls, which does seem to be impossible.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 02:13 PM (8b+oT)

269 Sessions has always been somewhat of a zealot regarding drug use. I think he realized the only thing the donks would allow him to do without calling him 'literally Hitler!' is going after drug dealers, hence the appalling Civil Asset Forfeiture ruling. I'm pretty sure Trump voters were by and large not voting for the DOJ to seriously crackdown on potheads. Sessions is a good guy, but he's been a total failure as AG, time for him to go.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 25, 2017 02:13 PM (2SG17)

270
Trump has had his fill of Sessions' nincompoopery and it's finally come to a head.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (uvWRL)

271 Sessions is a masochist and Trump's acts of public beating are merely to give pleasure to Sessions. The beatings portend nothing.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (SsblQ)

272 I don't know any conservatives who are upset that Trump is supposedly treating Sessions badly. Sessions has refused to do most of his job from day one.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 01:34 PM (rAIG/)

I simply don't care. Fire and replace and fire and replace again if that's what it takes. It isn't like the people they fire are going to be cast out in the frozen tundra to fend for themselves and their starving families.

Priebus, Spicer, Sessions et al are simply too soft for the job. They don't seem to understand the stakes.

Posted by: troyriser at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (Fw5cQ)

273 If we,re getting new AG can s/he undo CAF?

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (g+Dix)

274 "Not really. I still believe in the primacy of the rule of law not men and I don't think that position gets advanced by adopting their rules. It gets advanced by making them play by mine."

The problem is that given the position we are now in, that has as much chance of success as asking a member of MS13 to fight by Marquess of Queensbury rules in the prison yard.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (0mRoj)

275 Like built in air bags designed to cushion falls from a fairly low height?

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (Lutdd)

*puts on running shoes*
I don't have to outrun the Ravage now, I just have to outrun you. I have a chance to live.

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Look. I said "fairly low", not "ridiculously Lilliputian".

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:15 PM (5U2++)

276 If Trump fires Sessions, though, think what it will do for his reputation - the Dems and Press will immediately flip and talk about how awesome and fair and everything nice about Jeff Sessions.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:15 PM (Il37q)

277 "How about Bo Dietl?"

He's not an attorney, which would make working as the Attorney General a bit difficult.

He's also a complete meathead even about basic stuff. See for instance his blustering claims as a "firearms expert" that guns frequently "just go off".

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:15 PM (ujwCG)

278
eh, this whole slow walk of nominees is the Repubs fault, they control the Senate, they are part of the stop Trump campaign. They could ram through everything they wanted if they wanted.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:15 PM (r+sAi)

279 I do not want to play Will To Power. I know how this story ends. All evidence points to my having lost that argument.

Okie dokie.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me

Y'know, I've said before you don't want me ever to become autocratic ruler of anything. That's because I know the real rules and will play by them and ain't nobody going to be happy with what Imperator Cavil will do, especially when they have to commute along roads lined with heads on pikes.

But y'know, there's an easy way to avoid those impalings nobody wants, and that's to play by the effin' rules that are supposed to be in place instead of 24/7 Calvinball. Except oh, that means some folks don't get what they want, or at least not so easy, so maybe we can just tweak this and redefine that and what do you mean there's a run on sharpened stakes...

It's like nobody's ever done this before so you have no idea what happens...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 02:16 PM (AM1GF)

280
Ima workin right now.
Waitll ol' Soothie gets home...I'll set you all straight on what's going on here.

Posted by: Soothie at July 25, 2017 02:16 PM (uvWRL)

281

Yep, Mueller should be fired but should never had been there this long in the first place.

Sessions is weak. He may be nice, but there is something we don't know.

He's afraid to play hardball and sorry, we are up against the fight of our lives.

Sessions should also be going after those calling for a coup of the government.

This sh*t has got to stop and Sessions does not seem to have what it takes. All I hear is "he's nice" and "loyal." But what about effective?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 25, 2017 02:16 PM (fceHP)

282 I should calm down my denigration of Sessions--before he comes and takes my property.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:16 PM (mcI77)

283 277 "How about Bo Dietl?"

He's not an attorney, which would make working as the Attorney General a bit difficult.

He's also a complete meathead even about basic stuff. See for instance his blustering claims as a "firearms expert" that guns frequently "just go off".
Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:15 PM (ujwCG)

He's running for mayor against DeBolshevik.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:17 PM (mbhDw)

284 More Lefties going ape shit in Congress.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:17 PM (5y11N)

285 I simply don't care. Fire and replace and fire and replace again if that's what it takes. It isn't like the people they fire are going to be cast out in the frozen tundra to fend for themselves and their starving families
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Honestly. I think the establishment underestimated the appeal of Donald Trump's built in "YOU'RE FIRED" schtick. That is a large part of what we are hoping to see him do.
Fire a bunch of people, even if it starts with people that you hired. Keep firing until morale improves.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (9S9wK)

286 283 277 "How about Bo Dietl?"

The guy from the sandwich commercials?

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (0mRoj)

287 If he has to fire him, it'll mean there will be republican votes for impeachment.
Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:11 PM (NF6FK)

Oh FFS take your meds that's ridiculous. The Repubs would never do anything so foolish, it's completely illogical, you're just going off the deep end. Again.*

* shit I learned here

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (Niu5G)

288 Regarding whether or not the Attorney General has powers independent of, parallel to, or superior to the President of the United States, I direct the kind reader's attentions to Article II, Section I of the Constitution:

"The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States."

Period. Full stop.

Now, there are some who will claim that Congress have constrained this by law, leaving hanging the question of just exactly how congressional laws can amend the Constitution.

There are others who will claim that the courts have also constrained this power, also leaving hanging the question of just exactly how judicial opinions can amend the Constitution.

Sessions works for Trump. Sessions does not "work for the United States of America."

Mueller works for Trump. Sessions does not "work for the United States of America."

The Justice Department works for Trump. The Justice Department does not "work for the United States of America."

Trump works for the United States of America as the sole Constitutional repository of any and all "executive power."

Those who don't want Trump to be President have two and only two legitimate, available remedies: 1) impeachment and conviction, or 2) defeating him in the next election.

(Yadda yadda "living constitution" yadda yadda "precedent" yadda how do you think we got into this mess in the first place?)

Posted by: filbert at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (s5o+q)

289 Heh. The Senate is getting heckled.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (/tuJf)

290 "You yell at subordinates behind closed doors, if at all possible."
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Maybe Trump has and Sessions is just dragging his ass around the office.

Sessions should have numerous prosecutions going against the leaking of classified intelligence.

Maybe Sessions is doing the Bush family thing where you go all pussified to get along with people who hate your living guts.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (8b+oT)

291 Heh. The Senate is getting heckled.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (/tuJf)

Left wingers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (5y11N)

292 @269- The donks are on board w/CAF. Imagine that policy implemented by commiecrat admin.

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (g+Dix)

293 285 Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:18 PM (9S9wK)

For what it's worth, I'm still waiting for John Koskinen to be fired. Skinned alive would be preferable, but fired at least.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (mbhDw)

294 Not really. I still believe in the primacy of the rule of law not men and I don't think that position gets advanced by adopting their rules.

It gets advanced by making them play by mine.

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Yet somehow, they never do play by your rules.

"Keep taking the high road & keep getting your ass handed to you by those that don't".

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (Bd48Y)

295 We're getting pretty close to explicitly abandoning that social contract thingy that those guys in wigs back a few hundred years ago kept going on about and returning instead to a state of nature.

I'm sure that'll work out wonderfully for everyone.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (KUaJL)

296 I can't believe there is no one who could officially set parameters for his investigation without simply firing him (which would I think create an immediate firestorm if impeachment demands).
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Could Trump not just call him in, ask him to identify the specific crime he's investigating, and make it clear that that's the only thing he's allowed to investigate? And if he doesn't agree, THEN he gets fired.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (zSMr0)

297 Sessions is a masochist and Trump's acts of public beating are merely to give pleasure to Sessions. The beatings portend nothing.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (SsblQ)

But will they continue until morale improves?

Posted by: filbert at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (s5o+q)

298 Caputo to vote yes, but colllins and the scrunt from Alaska still no's....don't Pitch The Bitch

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:20 PM (5y11N)

299 More Lefties going ape shit in Congress.

Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Go long on ape shit futures. Gorilla Pundit told me.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (8b+oT)

300 O/T:

Here we go. Senate taking vote to proceed.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (G0vdT)

301 265 - If Trump has leaks amongst his own staff whose fault is that? Is Trump responsible for any of his own misfortunes?

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (Z+ic4)

302 "Keep taking the high road & keep getting your ass handed to you by those that don't".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (Bd48Y)

That's the fundamental problem. If I get in a fistfight and the other guy pulls a shank, me going "I say, old boy, that just isn't cricket" doesn't help the situation.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (0mRoj)

303 I'm sure that'll work out wonderfully for everyone."

*looks over at recent ammo purchases*

You were saying?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:22 PM (MINbv)

304 *makes fingers to eyes to comments*

I see you. Don't think I don't.

Not really. I still believe in the primacy of the rule of law not men and I don't think that position gets advanced by adopting their rules. It gets advanced by making them play by mine.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:12 PM (/tuJf)

Okay. Tell me how anything is being played by the rule of law right now. I'm serious. Tell me. Tell me how the rule of law is being applied to those in positions of power. Tell me, tell me true.

See, here's the thing. I agree with you. I do not want this world. I've been shrieking into the void about how this is horrible for decades. The void has reared up and said No.

So you'll have to excuse me if I cannot possibly bring myself to pinch lipped scold those on "my side" who decide to go the realpolitik route.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

305 297 Sessions is a masochist and Trump's acts of public beating are merely to give pleasure to Sessions. The beatings portend nothing.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:14 PM (SsblQ)

But will they continue until morale improves?
Posted by: filbert at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (s5o+q)

Masochism seems paradoxical to me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (mbhDw)

306 Schlicter is a lawyer, and he'd probably be a fine AG. Might have a little trouble getting confirmed though.

Posted by: Bob at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (fVGlW)

307 If I get in a fistfight and the other guy pulls a shank, me going "I say, old boy, that just isn't cricket" doesn't help the situation."

Yep. If I'm ever in a fair fight I know I f'd up.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (MINbv)

308 Sessions is a masochist and Trump's acts of public beating are merely
to give pleasure to Sessions.
Posted by: RioBravo
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"IT PUTS THE WARRANTS ON ITS DESK! IT DOES IT WHENEVER IT'S TOLD!"

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (8b+oT)

309 Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog

That makes two Salty Sea Dawgs here.

I was serving in the Navy during the Reagan years too. And that was before I found out a policemen, Indian Chief, and a construction worker were apparently my shipmates.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (hyuyC)

310 - If Trump has leaks amongst his own staff whose fault is that? Is Trump responsible for any of his own misfortunes?
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (Z+ic4)

He's responsible for all of them...what's your point?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (5y11N)

311 302 "Keep taking the high road & keep getting your ass handed to you by those that don't".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (Bd48Y)

That's the fundamental problem. If I get in a fistfight and the other guy pulls a shank, me going "I say, old boy, that just isn't cricket" doesn't help the situation.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (0mRoj)

When the other guy pulls a shank, you pull the .50 Desert Eagle and say "F** You. High road enough for you?"

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (jxbfJ)

312
We're getting pretty close to explicitly abandoning that social contract thingy that those guys in wigs back a few hundred years ago kept going on about and returning instead to a state of nature.

I'm sure that'll work out wonderfully for everyone.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 25, 2017 02:19 PM (KUaJL)

'Consent of the governed' is carved in stone. Immovable.

Posted by: The Encyclopedia of Famous Last Words at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (EgwCt)

313 306 Schlicter is a lawyer, and he'd probably be a fine AG. Might have a little trouble getting confirmed though.
Posted by: Bob at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (fVGlW)

Schlichter? I damned near killed her!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (mbhDw)

314 >>Yet somehow, they never do play by your rules.

>>"Keep taking the high road & keep getting your ass handed to you by those that don't".

Over 1000 state and federal offices have been won in the last 8 years. Trump is just one of them. It's ridiculous to keep saying the sky is falling and all we do is lose when the truth is people are rejecting the left in record numbers.

This country has a lot of rot. That's why we got Trump in the first place. This was never going to get solved in a few months or even a few years. It's going to take time to get this ship back on the right course, with or without Jeff Sessions.

It's not the high road, its the law. I thought we were in favor of enforcing laws. Trump was when he ran on it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (/tuJf)

315 Guys, if you have to resort to explanations that require 11-dimensional chess with quantum tunneling then you need to reevaluate.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (RD7QR)

316 When the other guy pulls a shank, you pull the .50 Desert Eagle and say "F** You. High road enough for you?"
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (jxbfJ)

fuckin A

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (5y11N)

317
If Trump has leaks amongst his own staff whose fault is that? Is Trump responsible for any of his own misfortunes?
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 25, 2017 02:21 PM (Z+ic4)

His staff? I'm talking about leaks from inside the DOJ.

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (lKyWE)

318 Here's how worried the biz world is about all this:

"Charting a slow-motion summer breakout, S&P 500 confirms bull trend"

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (3myMJ)

319 Now, there are some who will claim that Congress have constrained this
by law, leaving hanging the question of just exactly how congressional
laws can amend the Constitution.
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That and the fact that the Judiciary Act and not the Constitution created the Office of the Attorney General.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (SsblQ)

320 I was serving in the Navy during the Reagan years too. And that was before I found out a policemen, Indian Chief, and a construction worker were apparently my shipmates.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (hyuyC)

Before you came out with the hit tune "YMCA"?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (EgwCt)

321 301 265 - If Trump has leaks amongst his own staff whose fault is that? Is Trump responsible for any of his own misfortunes?
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk

If they were his own staff from the get go and not lifer drones that he was saddled with and can't get rid of? Yes.

If not, no, not 100%.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (Bd48Y)

322 316 When the other guy pulls a shank, you pull the .50 Desert Eagle and say "F** You. High road enough for you?"
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 02:24 PM (jxbfJ)

fuckin A
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (5y11N)

Attorney General Vinnie Jones.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (mbhDw)

323 There's a line of thinking in the deepest corners of twitter that Mueler and his team of Clinton people were brought in specifically to investigate Hillary & the Clintons. The thinking goes that in the next week or so, we should start hearing from Mueller about where the REAL investigation has gone. The expansion into finances is meant to target the Clinton Global Enrichment firm and others.

Not saying I believe that, but it's either that or the dumpster fire witch hunt it looks like. Trump's a smart guy and him just being in DC has given everyone enough coronaries that the swamp will go to extreme lengths to ensure a non-DC affiliated person never, ever becomes president again. I'm amused, but on the fence as to whether this is 18-dimensional chess or a clusterfark the likes of which none of us have ever seen.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (SIVRK)

324 235
Legitimate question: Who exactly is Mueller accountable to in an
official, direct-report sense? Once unleashed (by whom, exactly) is he
free to do whatever, however, for however long until he decides
otherwise? Is there a Committee in the Senate or House with oversight?

I can't believe there is no one who could officially set parameters
for his investigation without simply firing him (which would I think
create an immediate firestorm if impeachment demands).

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 25, 2017 02:05 PM (QtQaN)

I'm pretty sure that the Deputy AG, Rosenstein, has oversight over a Special Counsel. Note also that he is not an Independent Counsel a la Fitzgerald -- that law has expired. He is a Special Counsel who reports to the DOJ.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (jK8Z7)

325 I like Sessions, but he serves at the pleasure of the president. If he is as honorable as all claim, then he should offer his resignation since PDT has questioned how he is doing the job of AG OR he should comply with the general guidelines of his boss, PDT. If he is unclear on the guidelines then seek out the boss and get a clarification. FYI, Being a good man does not mean that Sessions is a good subordinate.

Posted by: Locke Common at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (mLnfL)

326 @277-and Dietl has a table at Rao's!

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (g+Dix)

327 1. You wanted repeal of Obamacare.
2. You'd settle for replacement of Obamacare
3. You'll get a vote on a motion to proceed with debate.

Posted by: Ripley at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (MxEKc)

328 Collins - No
Murkowski - No

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (G0vdT)

329 Guys, if you have to resort to explanations that
require 11-dimensional chess with quantum tunneling then you need to
reevaluate.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:25 PM (RD7QR)

----------------------------------------------------
There is a great deal of creativity in the analyses though.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (SsblQ)

330 303 I'm sure that'll work out wonderfully for everyone."

*looks over at recent ammo purchases*
You were saying?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:22 PM (MINbv)

Why, Mr. Mouse ... may I call you Anon ... you seemed to have read my mind.

Me and mine won't be the first one's in the camps - for damn sure. Why - we may even break a few laws to stay out of 'em.

I know - I know - that kind of talk DQs us from attending this year's GOP Circle Jerk and Ice Cream Social. Damn the luck.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (Niu5G)

331 No Dem's voted....yet.

Resist!

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (G0vdT)

332 The bobbsie twins suck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (5y11N)

333 326 @277-and Dietl has a table at Rao's!
Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (g+Dix)

Dietl is running for NYC mayor against Warren DeBolshevik.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (mbhDw)

334 As JJ Sefton posted: I want my RICO on Soros and the Clintons.

I second that motion. All in favor . . .

Posted by: Locke Common at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (mLnfL)

335
Actually, Dietl was supposedly running for mayor.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (mbhDw)

336 Posted by: sans_sheriff at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (SIVRK)

Uh.... unless there is proof of Russian collusion with the Clinton's, it would be out of Muellers mandate....

The Clinton stuff is ALL on Jess Session's shoulders, not Muellers...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (NgKpN)

337 328 Collins - No
Murkowski - No
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (G0vdT)

Cunts.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (mbhDw)

338 Five Republicans yet to vote. Yes tally at 45.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

339 328 Collins - No
Murkowski - No

Ten paces. Turn. Fire.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (mcI77)

340 People who care nothing about us are voting on whether to debate something.

Excitement.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (3myMJ)

341 As long a Caputo is in, don't need those two.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (Il37q)

342 On a serious note how can collins and murkowski rartionalize not voting to debate? Scunts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (5y11N)

343 337 328 Collins - No
Murkowski - No
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (G0vdT)

Cunts.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (mbhDw)

Actually, McConnell is the cunt because they don't do jack shit without his approval.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (mbhDw)

344 Before you came out with the hit tune "YMCA"?

"In the Navy"

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (MINbv)

345 Trump should go on TV and state his case before the American people BEFORE Mueller is fired. He should lay out what Mueller was appointed to investigate and withing what margins. He should stress that Mueller is not a Special prosecutor and that he has no mandate to stray too far afield from the parameters of the original investigation. He should point out that Mueller hired many Hillary donors and that the real subject of Mueller's investigation should be Democrat collusion with Russia.
Finally, he should say that he's 'thinking about" firing Mueller so that hen it does occur it won't be such a shock--no matter how hard CNN pretends otherwise.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (7uYFy)

346 338 Five Republicans yet to vote. Yes tally at 45.
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

I assume Pence is there as well to pull it over the finish line if need be?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (mbhDw)

347 Five Republicans yet to vote. Yes tally at 45.
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

It's in the bag...that is why McCain is there.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (5y11N)

348 >>Uh.... unless there is proof of Russian collusion with the Clinton's, it would be out of Muellers mandate....

There is a hell of a lot more evidence of the Clintons colluding with the Russians than Trump.

#BringBackOurUranium

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (/tuJf)

349 264 = cuckservative.txt

Posted by: He Brews Steel at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (WGcw3)

350 that kind of talk DQs us from attending this year's GOP Circle Jerk and Ice Cream Social"

That ain't ice cream... or fudge.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (MINbv)

351 I assume Pence is there as well to pull it over the finish line if need be?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (mbhDw)

yes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (5y11N)

352 Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (5y11N)

Sounds probable.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (3myMJ)

353 47 Yeahs. Three R's yet to vote.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (G0vdT)

354
So the scrunt sisters can vote to repeal under obama but not Trump. hmmmm... its as if they are fake repubs or something.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (r+sAi)

355 The Clinton stuff is ALL on Jess Session's shoulders, not Muellers...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Salty Sea Dog at July 25, 2017 02:28 PM (NgKpN)

No, read my wall of text above. Sessions did not just recuse himself on "the Russia investigation" but on everything related to the campaign (go ahead, look it up.)

As such, he cannot "go after Hillary." Like I said, no one else at DoJ is going to pick that up and run with it absent a focus from the top.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (Il37q)

356 330 303 I'm sure that'll work out wonderfully for everyone."

*looks over at recent ammo purchases*
You were saying?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:22 PM (MINbv)

Why, Mr. Mouse ... may I call you Anon ... you seemed to have read my mind.

Me and mine won't be the first one's in the camps - for damn sure. Why - we may even break a few laws to stay out of 'em.

I know - I know - that kind of talk DQs us from attending this year's GOP Circle Jerk and Ice Cream Social. Damn the luck.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:27 PM (Niu5G)

/fist bump.....

got a new 'game' I've been playing with me friends....

Modern Functional 36 inch Saber, and 45.... in close combat against multiple targets...

Using an Airsoft gun during simulations against multiple live targets.... its... interesting...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Buckler of Swashes at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (NgKpN)

357 337 328 Collins - No
Murkowski - No
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:26 PM (G0vdT)

Cunts.

Can we use "cucks" for women too or do we need a special word? cuckettes?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (ul9CR)

358 Nood.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (hLRSq)

359 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (mpXpK)

360 Why, Mr. Mouse ... may I call you Anon ... you seemed to have read my mind.

Me and mine won't be the first one's in the camps - for damn sure. Why - we may even break a few laws to stay out of 'em.

I'll never make the camps.
But I won't be making the trip to hell alone.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (Bd48Y)

361 It's in the bag...that is why McCain is there.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:29 PM (5y11N)

He's going to be the last vote. Seeing himself as the White Knight to save the Republican party......or not.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (G0vdT)

362 At least at the carnival we'd get a big cheap stuffed animal for winning.

Here, we get to hear them talk more.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (3myMJ)

363 247 Blaster's post is one I agree with. I would also add that according to Trump, Sessions didn't tell him before he appointed him that he would need to resign from any campaign issues that might come before the DOJ.
He subsequently told the confirmation committee and then the Senate, when he was asked if he would recuse himself, that yes, he would recuse himself from any issue with Russia. He was then asked further about recusing himself from campaign issues(remember, the fact that he had NOT disclosed on his paperwork for confirmation that he had met with the Russian ambassador during the campaign, although in his function as a Senator) had been leaked at that point and was a red alert for the media and the Democrats.

Sessions was caught , had to apologize, then added in the recusals as a way to garner support.

The Dems played it well. Should Trump have asked him to step down from the confirmation process at that point and give the Dems ANOTHER scalp? Or do what he did, continue his support of Sessions, only to then be besieged by leaks from Comey of Russia Russia, have Rosenstein fire Comey, and then Rosenstein recuse himself from the investigation by appointing a "special prosecutor" all arranged by Comey, Schumer, and the deep state, with Rosensteins blessing.

Trump is trying to find help for the WH from the DOJ, and it's not there. He is going to have to do something.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (FggK5)

364 Vote GOP! The Party of Cvunts and Cvucks!

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (7uYFy)

365
btw, just move Sessions to a different job since he recused himself from acting as an AG on dem crimes. Administrations shuffle top people all the time.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (r+sAi)

366 304 "pinch lipped scold those on "my side" who decide to go the realpolitik route. Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

Somehow I can't picture you scolding anyone through pinched lips...a full on blasting for stupidity yes...no pinched lips though.

Luckily for me, I'm going the "stockpile ammo route"

Posted by: USMC8541 at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (xGZ+b)

367 Hey kids! Do you know how you get the rule of law?

HINT: It's not by letting a big chunk of people run around refusing to abide by it, let alone holding high office.

The law doesn't enforce and protect itself. There are no gleaming diamant and brass angels going to see to it The Law functions. You need people to abide by it, enforce it, and deal with those who refuse it.

And you don't win by refusing to fight.

And if you can't see that by now, nothing I can say will change that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (AM1GF)

368 Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (Il37q)

Damn.... you are correct...

I ... sit.... corrected...

Hell, it means he can't even go after VOTER FRAUD... /facepalm

Posted by: Don Quixote, Buckler of Swashes at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (NgKpN)

369 321 If they were his own staff from the get go and not lifer drones that he was saddled with and can't get rid of? Yes.

If not, no, not 100%.

Posted by: rickb223

There are ~ 4k employees at the WH (executive branch), of which about 400 are appointed slots. iirc. Lots of space for unfireable leakers.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2017 02:37 PM (6jaju)

370 Modern Functional 36 inch Saber, and 45.... in close combat against multiple targets...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Buckler of Swashes at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (NgKpN)

I bet that's a damn good time training for.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:38 PM (Niu5G)

371 Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (Il37q)

To claim that everything to do with Clinton is about the campaign is just another surrender. If it's ambiguous it should default to not related to the campaign. If you concede to every Dem demand or position then you are not doing your job. He's been confirmed. He doesn't have to play nice,

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (A3edJ)

372 Part of me wants to believe that this is all some WWE type drama being played out. The Donald has some experience with scripted roles.

A red herring for the press to fixate on while some heavy lifting is going on backstage.

I can hope, can't I?

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (ifORZ)

373 Br'er Trump is throwin' Br'er Sessions into the brier patch. We got 'im now.

Posted by: Br'er Shumer at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (fSf/G)

374 Switch over to FBN and you won't have to hear Shep.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (lIZQs)

375 Trump has an unlimited number of people who would take the job. Sessions is looking more and more like a trap-for-Trump. Sessions may un-recluse. Seems to be ambitious. Sessions would have already resigned if Sessions had more honor than a regular politician.

Posted by: Mudd at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (cfHE9)

376 "including many conservatives"

Turns out there are as many definitions of conservative as there are people claiming to be one. Glenn Beck claims his conservatism on his radio program five days a week. Don't think Beck's conservatism is anything like Rush Limbaugh's. Not that I consider Limbaugh a standard.

Posted by: Mudd at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (cfHE9)

377 If I was Sessions I would immediately fire Mueller, saying "I recused myself on Russia not Trump's finances. If you had stuck to the Russia collusion probe I would have left you in place."

Then I'd appoint a special counsel on Clinton Foundation and the Clinton emails plus the DNC/DWS Pakistani IT issue.

That is the way back into Trump's heart. And I don't blame Trump a bit because he's getting shit support from anyone.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (kfcYC)

378 >There's a line of thinking in the deepest corners of twitter that Mueler
and his team of Clinton people were brought in specifically to
investigate Hillary the Clintons.

not trying to be snarky, but why would his team of democong donors and Clinton Foundation lawyers (one of whom has defended Clinton cronies before) go after the hand that feeds them?

Posted by: Grad School Fool at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (swEzU)

379 My expectations of Trump were right, he's an orange version of The JEF & a vindictive SOB.
I'm glad I stayed home on Election Day.
I'm with Mark Levin, keep Sessions.

Levin picked the lessor of two evils, Trump, but criticizes him all the time & if he fires the First
& only senator to endorse him & probably helped him win the South, it further proves that Trump expects fealty & does not repay loyalty.

Posted by: Carol at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (NKOy9)

380 Do you think that either Loretta Lynch or Eric Holder would have recused themselves? Holder was held in contempt of Congress and didn't even blink. I love Sessions but he was not the right man for this job, he's simply been in Washington for too long. He's infected, with everything wrong with the GOP. Suicidal bi-partisanship.

Posted by: DFCTomm at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (50gG9)

381 But Cruz was totally in the right to hold his grudge?

You can't have it both ways.

Trump needs an AG with uncompromising loyalty.

Posted by: Maritime at July 25, 2017 01:49 PM (1+bvq)

Actually Cruz was totally in the right on that.
Trump was playing hardcore dirty ball including accusing Cruz's father of being in on Kennedy's assassination. Trump is lucky Cruz did not nuke him from space for that in the time that was allowed him by the rules of nomination (as a reminder, Trump could NOT stop Cruz from speaking... he had earned his speaking time by virtue of his state wins).

There is an order of magnitude difference between bold-faced lying about someone and refusing to say nice things about the person who lied their bold face off about you. Cruz had a right to be very angry... Trump did not.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 25, 2017 04:01 PM (qf8IB)

382 Sounds like the decision is made. It's the execution that's being decided...

Posted by: macleod at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (I7blG)

383 I think that there is some theatre with Sessions. He seemed happy enough last time I saw him and there are no reports of his reaction to these 'slams' in any respect. Wouldn't he be quoted saying "I serve at the pleasure of the President and he is free to replace me. He knows that. I am now back to my job" or whatever. Nothing. I think that Trump will bitch some more, Sessions will call a presser and, with the #fakenews hacks drooling over his resignation with stories already written, Sessions will announce some indictments from secret grand juries that have been "laboring away the past few months". Rock the cesspool to its core with indictments of Comey, Lerner, Holder,Mills, Rice, Powers and others.

Perchance to dream...

Posted by: oddnot is fed up at July 25, 2017 05:41 PM (g1MTt)

384 How many votes does Trump lose if Session 'UN-RECUSES' himself?

There are plenty of legal scholars who say Sessions should not have recused himself in the first place.

UN-recuse yourself Jeff and get on with doing the people's business.....get both yourself and your boss out of a potential disaster.

Ball's in YOUR court Jeff. Just do it....who is going to stop you?

Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at July 25, 2017 06:03 PM (oBuXO)

385 We elect republicans to do a few things, and all they do is investigate trump!

Piss on all of them.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at July 25, 2017 06:15 PM (ZZhQQ)

386 Trump is right, he was betrayed by Sessions. But maybe he's also angry at Sessions for actually doing what Trump promised. Maybe Trump doesn't actually want immigration laws enforced. Deporting Dreamers is unpopular with Ivanka and Jared.

Posted by: bjstuggs at July 25, 2017 10:12 PM (NUlzw)

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