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And Here We Go Again: "Thor," Who Was Turned Into a Woman in the Comic Books and Saw Sales Plummet, Now Says James Bond Should Be a Woman Too
Marvel Comics has replaced almost every single marquee character with a more "diverse" one: Thor is now Natalie Portman (Jane Porter). Captain America is now a Nazi/Hydra undercover operative, so the mantle of Captain America is worn by Sam Wilson, formerly called The Falcon. The Hulk has been replaced by the long-standing character She-Hulk -- though she's now just the Hulk -- and also by a young Chinese-American Millennial called Amadeus Cho, often called "Amadeus Bro" because of his Millennial/Radical, Dude! sort of persona.
His book isn't called "The Incredible Hulk." His book is called "The Totally Awesome Hulk." Because Radical, Dude! Ironman is now "Ironheart" -- Tony Stark is missing in action, and a 15 year old black girl is now Ironman. Even Wolverine isn't Wolverine any more -- Wolverine is now that girl from the Logan movie, called, formerly, X-23, but now officially "Wolverine." (An old version of Logan from a different timeline is also present in the universe, but he's called Old Man Logan, not Wolverine.) How are the sales doing? Dumpster fire, baby.Marvel Comics aren’t doing well. Sales have declined, even as Marvel has pushed out every major event and crossover it can over the past two years. In a recent interview during the Marvel Retailer Summit, Marvel VP of Sales David Gabriel decided to ignore all the problems and criticism in order to place the blame on diversity.Has it occurred to any of these people that Tony Stark is more than just the suit? Like, Batman is more than just the costume; people respond to the character of Bruce Wayne, too. You can't just take a completely different character -- and one the audience hasn't spent decades following -- and put him in the same costume or give her the same name and say "This is your new Batman." I guess Chris Hemsworth doesn't know the gender switch was tried for the character he plays on screen -- Thor changed into "Thor, The Female Version" -- and the numbers cratered. Because now he's calling for the same thing for James Bond.
What we heard was that people didn’t want any more diversity. They didn’t want female characters out there. That’s what we heard, whether we believe that or not. I don’t know that that’s really true, but that’s what we saw in sales. We saw the sales of any character that was diverse, any character that was new, our female characters, anything that was not a core Marvel character, people were turning their nose up against. That was difficult for us because we had a lot of fresh, new, exciting ideas that we were trying to get out and nothing new really worked.
Chris Hemsworth is best known for his role as the Norse god Thor in the “Avengers” movies. But outside of cinema, Hemsworth has had a hard time fitting in with the progressive left, who have slammed him for violating every progressive tenet, ranging from cultural appropriation to transphobia. Unable to stop making politically incorrect gaffes, Hemsworth has now taken it upon himself to call for a woman to play the role of the next James Bond. In an interview with W Magazine about the new film “Atomic Blonde,” the actor revealed that he would like to see Charlize Theron take on the role.If Charlize Theron is already playing a super-spy clearly modeled as a female version of James Bond -- why does she actually need to play "James Bond" as well? It's as if they're admitting from the start that they have no faith in a real female character. It has to be a knockoff gender-swapped female character who just cannibalizes the existing fan base of the male original. This is so stupid -- "James Bond" isn't a unique individual. He's a 00 agent -- and there are more of them. If you wanted a "female James Bond," you could just run a movie in the same universe as the James Bond franchise, and just make her -- get this! -- a completely distinct, original character that is a female 00 operative. Say, aren't Shared Universes the big thing anyway? You wouldn't even have to make her a British agent. You could say the CIA has its own 00-type program and she's an American. To make her different than the James Bond character. What an idea. Then you could make money by following the Avengers model of a crossover/team-up. Why, they could even start on opposite sides of the adventure and have a fight before realizing they're actually working against the same enemy, albeit from two different angles. But no, we should all follow the Lady Ghostbusters and Marvel failed models of just gender-swapping established heroes and hope it'll work out better this time. Can we have any female characters who aren't fundamentally parasitic free-riders on the goodwill and legacy of male characters? I guess not. I guess we're all done with making new characters or any kind of new movies, period. Frankly, I want the media destroyed far more than I care about another dismal James Bond movie so I hope they actually take Hemsworth's advice and just set their IP on fire, forever.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:41 PM (3OIiX)
Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at July 24, 2017 06:42 PM (oBuXO)
Posted by: tu3031 at July 24, 2017 06:42 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: Hollywood SJW Toad at July 24, 2017 06:42 PM (j+dfT)
Posted by: Big Pile of Shitman at July 24, 2017 06:43 PM (sLe9Y)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:43 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Hollywood SJW Toad at July 24, 2017 06:44 PM (j+dfT)
And what demographic overwhelmingly consumes comic books? Its not black, trangender handicapped millennials.
I guess this sentiment of representation is only something those in protected classes get to feel. Anyone outside that is clearly part of the KKK.
Posted by: publix at July 24, 2017 06:44 PM (LHzKO)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:44 PM (3OIiX)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 06:44 PM (OQLuX)
Posted by: Hollywood SJW Toad at July 24, 2017 06:44 PM (j+dfT)
Better yet, the Jews will persecute innocent Muslims and Germans.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:44 PM (mbhDw)
This is why the "Gotham" series lasted three seasons, and why film geeks prefer Michael Keaton's performance in the Burton Batman.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Anal Avenger at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (sLe9Y)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (mcI77)
"1. Identify a respected institution.
2. kill it.
3. gut it.
4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.
#lefties"
Posted by: jmt at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (I8vjj)
Posted by: tu3031 at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (qJhUV)
From the previous thread, where I said I would post this whenever anyone couldn't tell a girl from a boy.
Applies to this nonsense.
Thor is a god from ancient mythology. He is not a gender bender, and there are/were plenty of other gods who were female. No need to make anyone a girl who isn't, and vice versa.
So, DaFuk.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (NXsWM)
Anyway SJW won't quit, ever
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (9g/6M)
This is why the "Gotham" series lasted three seasons, and why film geeks prefer Michael Keaton's performance in the Burton Batman.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (6FqZa)
Actually, Bruce and Wayne are very gay names.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (mbhDw)
"When dog food not sell, maybe because dog food taste like shit"
-- Confucius
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (Mouru)
Not that I ever watched the original, but the new twist might make it a must.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (FUu/Z)
The Bride, from Kill Bill.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 06:46 PM (Xuv2G)
What we heard was that people didn't want any more diversity.
Diversity doesn't sell product?
But that's the cornerstone of the DNC's 1984-ish strategery...
War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Diversity is Strength.
Hope the DNC doesn't abandon the strategery.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 24, 2017 06:46 PM (EgwCt)
La Femme Nikita, Atomic Blonde coming out this weekend, Dark Angel I suppose...
Nikita still has quite the following IIRC.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 06:46 PM (6FqZa)
I don't care about that. If the art is good and the writing is skilled, I'll give it a try.
But trying to sell me on a 'new interpretation' of Thor is stupid as hell. They already have a female character they could use for all those stories. Her name is Valkyrie.....and they're turning her black in the new Thor movie.
So. Much. Hate.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:46 PM (3OIiX)
Posted by: Hollywood SJW Toad No. 2 at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (j+dfT)
Posted by: Rose at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (3N8PC)
Posted by: Tradd at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (7+kA5)
Marvel. It's a Marvel We're Still in Business/
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (mbhDw)
They kind of already have one of those. So, would she become Felix Labia or Felicity Leiter?
And really, why stop there. Why not just have an agent who identifies as female (or a trans-sexual) as Jamie Bond?
Posted by: Semi-zombie Gabby Giffords at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (0mRoj)
I don't follow or read comics, so I thought you were making up all of this ridiculous shit.
Seriously.
It's too fvcking stupid to be real, except that it IS real.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: fluffy at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (jw2Xw)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Dang at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (8b+oT)
Posted by: Tradd at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (7+kA5)
U Wonder It's a Woman.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (mbhDw)
Make bond a beautiful woman and it's like... not a huge accomplishment for her to sleep with a lot of men. Any beautiful woman can do that.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: X Foreskin at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (sLe9Y)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (mcI77)
They'll cast Allan Grayson.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Hollywood SJW Toad No. 2 at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (j+dfT)
Burkinis.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (NXsWM)
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (ANIFC)
Make bond a beautiful woman and it's like... not a huge accomplishment for her to sleep with a lot of men. Any beautiful woman can do that.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (Xuv2G)
Or women, if we're talking Atomic Blonde.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:49 PM (3OIiX)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 24, 2017 06:49 PM (FQKBL)
There's better amateurs on youtube than this Marvel Garbage.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 06:49 PM (OQLuX)
Posted by: Rose at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (3N8PC)
They've been convinced that's the Damsel In Distress Trope, and it's a bad, bad thing.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 06:49 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: Dang at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (8b+oT)
Heh. That happens in Spiderman: Homecoming.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:49 PM (3OIiX)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (0mRoj)
Your stupid minds!
Posted by: Ghey Alien Leader in Plan 9 at July 24, 2017 06:49 PM (ANIFC)
Plenty of ugly ones can manage that, based on what I see at the mall.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 06:49 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: tu3031 at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (qJhUV)
Coming to a theater near you (for a week, anyway) in 2018: Ocean's Eight
Danny Ocean's estranged sister Debbie attempts to pull off the heist of the century at New York City's star-studded annual Met Gala. Her first stop is to assemble the perfect crew: Lou, Rose, Daphne Kluger, Nine Ball, Tammy, Amita, and Constance
I shit you not
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (tMFgx)
Posted by: mercenary13 at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (nLlcz)
I'd rather watch a guy with fake buck teeth and a wig repair lawn mowers than this Marvel Trash. And I do do that, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (OQLuX)
I love the synthesizer music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue80QwXMRHg
Posted by: Max Power at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (IqV8l)
soldiers. And instead of Eisenhower, the troops can be commanded by
Eleanor Roosevelt!"
Except there will be a twist - they'll invade England and the US to fight the white hetero-phallocracy. After all, why should they fight against the Nazi version of the very thing they are being oppressed by at home?
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (rznWS)
boom!
or whaddabout other characters who magically became black male characters?
The gunslinger? Heimdale?
They really want Idris Elbo to happen, man.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (AU4SY)
Some of the guys are Screen Junkies are the typical stupid progs. Not all of them are, but a big chunk.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (3OIiX)
They were going to do that with Halle Berry's crappy character from the last Brosnan movie.
Posted by: buzzion at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (z/Ubi)
This is because their goal is to divide men and women.
Posted by: Achilles at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (YQhDN)
Plenty of ugly ones can manage that, based on what I see at the mall.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 06:49 PM (6FqZa)
Some guys are REALLY thirsty I guess.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2017 06:51 PM (9g/6M)
Maxwell Smart Agent 86 transitions to 99.
Get Stupid
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (IqV8l)
Agent 69.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:51 PM (mbhDw)
There's a craftsman on youtube who loves anvils. I'd rather watch his vids on old anvils than this Marvel Superhero Crap.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 06:51 PM (OQLuX)
She's kind of an Emma Peel type. (Mmmm, Emma Peel...)
The point is to kill the culture, tho'. So "Jane Bond" it shall be. Or perhaps "James Bond" because who says a gal can't be named James. In fact, who says the gal James Bond needs to, you know, have a vagina? Let's get a burly Scottish prostate-owner to play the part, and she'll be a lesbian, and bang Ursula Andress because it's not psychopathic when women do it, it's empowering!
Where am I?
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2017 06:51 PM (7zeA4)
Infection powers, Activate!
Posted by: Dr. Chlymidia at July 24, 2017 06:51 PM (sLe9Y)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2017 06:51 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2017 06:51 PM (9g/6M)
I liked Shaving Ryan's Privates better.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:51 PM (mbhDw)
No?
Then take your diversity bullshit and stuff it up your stovepipe.
Just sayin'.
And I live in one of the most diverse cities in the US, and nobody here gives two shits about it one way or the other. We are just people.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (NXsWM)
But shoehorning him into every role isn't working. It's an insult to him and his talent. He should not be frelling Heimdall. The Norse were not black men.
The Roland thing...I dunno if King ever described the gunslinger's race.
Though I'm a little honked off by the blackening in A Wrinkle in Time. What's that about?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (3OIiX)
Infection powers, Activate!
Posted by: Dr. Chlymidia at July 24, 2017 06:51 PM (sLe9Y)
Edward G. was better as Dr. Clitterhouse. For real.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (mbhDw)
I'm having my 12-year-old nephew GIF the shit out of this so I can upload it to every TV site out there.
Due credit Ace, natch.
Posted by: Shopgirl at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (eiUjG)
Wasn't the character played by Joe Don Baker the American "00"? He was in a few Bond films.
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM
Agent MITCHELL!!!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: klaftern at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (mcI77)
And as to why they are aiming at the comics: because they are trying to divide very young males and females.
As for the sort of person who would want to do that, er...
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (6FqZa)
Though I doubt they'll do that for Wolverine. Marvel wants to do everything they can to kill off the X-men. Because that helps Fox. Thus why they have eliminated them from the next Marvel vs Capcom games.
Posted by: buzzion at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: Bruce Campbell and Zombie John Wayne at July 24, 2017 06:53 PM (rznWS)
She's kind of an Emma Peel type. (Mmmm, Emma Peel...)
The point is to kill the culture, tho'. So "Jane Bond" it shall be. Or perhaps "James Bond" because who says a gal can't be named James. In fact, who says the gal James Bond needs to, you know, have a vagina? Let's get a burly Scottish prostate-owner to play the part, and she'll be a lesbian, and bang Ursula Andress because it's not psychopathic when women do it, it's empowering!
Where am I?
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2017 06:51 PM (7zeA4)
I don't know but go on...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:53 PM (3OIiX)
Posted by: Creative Hollywood Genius at July 24, 2017 06:53 PM (j+dfT)
***
felix leiter has had many lives. and colors.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 06:53 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 06:49 PM (6FqZa)
This happens in the kiosks?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2017 06:53 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: shibumi, american badass at July 24, 2017 06:53 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: Creative Hollywood Genius at July 24, 2017 06:53 PM (j+dfT)
"Boy, you got a nice strap-on!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:54 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM
Agent MITCHELL!!!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (IqV8l)
Mitchell's on the corner...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:54 PM (3OIiX)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at July 24, 2017 06:54 PM (ppaKI)
Yeah? Well fuck you, pal/pilgrim.
Posted by: Bruce Campbell and Zombie John Wayne at July 24, 2017 06:53 PM (rznWS)
Marion Morrison????
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:54 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 24, 2017 06:54 PM (nFwvY)
Ask yourself why your existing male characters sell better than your existing female characters?
Is it because the male characters always have the better/more interesting super powers, such that if you just had a female in that super suit or who could spin spider webs or whatever, they would be just as popular?
Was the entire analysis that the reason they didn't have popular girl characters is that all their fans really wanted was a character, any character, that could launch claws out of the back of his hands, and the tragedy was that when they thought of a character with that particular superpower they happened to make it a male character and dangit now there's another more popular male character.
These people have to have metrics dating to the beginning of time tracking the popularity of characters by gender.
And therefore you would have to be a complete mouth breathing idiot to not know what would happen when you switch a male character to female.
What would really melt the internet is if they took a female character, made it a male, and then sales took off. Which it very well might.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 06:54 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Deadpool at July 24, 2017 06:55 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM
Agent MITCHELL!!!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (IqV8l)
I thought it was Maxwell Schmaaart?
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 06:55 PM (Xuv2G)
The Bride, from Kill Bill."
And the chick from "I Spit Upon Your Grave"
And technically, the Friday the 13th series had a male spree-killer parasite off the goodwill and legacy of a female spree-killer.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 24, 2017 06:55 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: shibumi, american badass at July 24, 2017 06:53 PM (aT+Bx)
And somehow effectively blame it on the victims, i.e. us.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:55 PM (mbhDw)
Anyway - female Thor? Stupid. Anti American Captain America? Stupid. She-Hulk is ok - that is an original Marvel story line and she's a hottie. Female James Bond ? Also stupid. Just as stupid as Female Ghost Busters- but what ya gonna do? Stupid Leftards gotta stupid.
Also - want to do a cool James Bond Themed girl spy? Simple - Miss Moneypenny - The Early Years - Before she got assigned the role of bodyguard for "M" (what you thought she was a secretary ? NOW who's being sexist!). She was the top 00 agent assasin - used sex as a weapon etc. could be a cool period piece in the swinging 60s. Hollywood-? You're welcome.
Posted by: Publius Redux at July 24, 2017 06:55 PM (+75OR)
who would ever beleive that would be possible in world of spycraft????????????????????
I find the idea amusing though of a secret agent chick who uses the sex but really likes being choked during sex. It's like a contradiction, but it's funny because it's true.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 06:55 PM (AU4SY)
Where have you gone Sgt. Rock and Easy Company?
We are a nation of adolescents and 8 year olds.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2017 06:55 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: Sporkatus at July 24, 2017 06:55 PM (JFpNs)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (c92y+)
This is why the "Gotham" series lasted three seasons, and why film geeks prefer Michael Keaton's performance in the Burton Batman.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (6FqZa)
Actually, Bruce and Wayne are very gay names.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (mbhDw)
Bruce isn't gay; it's just Australian.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: jbspry at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (mCOPv)
Posted by: Old Blue at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (FAo3p)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (OQLuX)
He heavily implied it.
Roland's eyes were noted: grey like Clint Eastwood. Blacks don't generally come with grey eyes unless (1) very mixed or (2) a genetic defect, involved also with deafness - I forget what it's called.
Also Stephen King signed off on a lot of cover art that showed Roland's race.
And when a black character was introduced from our world, Detta Walker, her race was a major plot point. To the point of parody, really ugly parody.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: tu3031 at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 06:55 PM (AU4SY)
Ooo ooo ooo, pick me! Pick me!
Posted by: Cheryl Tunt at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (4e+hS)
Posted by: Fritz at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (eLttb)
Posted by: Genderqueer Self-Fucking Wachowski Brothersisterfreaks at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (sLe9Y)
Diversity & Comics on youtube has a ton of stuff on "SJW Marvel" and the self-destruction of the comics industry.
Posted by: sunny-dee at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (QAOZh)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (c92y+)
Funny you should say this, as I have two scripts ready to go right now.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:56 PM (mbhDw)
I look at the movie as an audition for Bond.
Posted by: blaster at July 24, 2017 06:57 PM (jHrzU)
As much as I love Idris Elba, he is NOT the gunslinger I grew to love and follow in the series.
Roland is supposed to look like Randolph Scott.
Posted by: Uncle JR at July 24, 2017 06:57 PM (cL+Cq)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2017 06:57 PM (9g/6M)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 06:57 PM (6FqZa)
He's already been played by John Wayne.
Who liked to wear dresses.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 24, 2017 06:57 PM (RrhD2)
***
You are thinking way, way too narrowly.
Instead of a western woman, how about a muslim woman?
And instead of MI6 or the CIA, how about, oh, I don't know...Al Qaeda.
Our hero could plot against capitalism and Christianity and all that oppressive stuff...pulling off bombings here and beheadings there, all while wearing a nice black trash bag.
I'm sure that would sell well...right?
Posted by: Obligatory at July 24, 2017 06:57 PM (aZq03)
So, blame it on the BBC. They had a time machine, they should have used it.
Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 24, 2017 06:57 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: Creative Hollywood Genius at July 24, 2017 06:58 PM (j+dfT)
I know because I'm Denny Crane!
Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 24, 2017 06:58 PM (4bjXi)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2017 06:57 PM (9g/6M)
It will be called "Sulu (oh my!)"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:58 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2017 06:58 PM (Mouru)
james bond as a beautiful woman who uses the sex to seduce men? who would ever beleive that would be possible in world of spycraft????????????????????
Nobody
Posted by: Anna Chapman at July 24, 2017 06:58 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2017 06:58 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 06:58 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2017 06:57 PM (9g/6M)
Topless women.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (0mRoj)
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LOL. I'm going to one up you. I've got three scripts ready to go.
Posted by: shibumi, american badass at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (aT+Bx)
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yeah, I don't think King is capable of having a non-magical negro in a prominent role where the magic and the blackness are in your face.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: Sporkatus at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (JFpNs)
It's a bit complicated. Most of the female titles are ACHINGLY bad in the writing.
Captain Marvel for the past 20 years has had great artists and bad artists but the writing has been between horrible to merely bad-and-preachy.
So they don't usually invest good writing in their female cast. Brian Bendis is the exception with his Jinx and Jessica Jones. He's not perfect but he can write.
Then there's the demographics. Most superhero comic are bought by boys. Girls buy...8% I think? Maybe 10% And what boys look for in comics isn't what girls want.
Basically, ideology and sloppiness is what's stopping them from being profitable and successful. Compare the Marvel movies to the Marvel comics. Hell, they had to kick the Marvel comic editorial staff out the movie planning because they kept fucking up the show. Now Feige runs the movies and he runs them well. Very little divisiveness and the diversity crap...well that still happens but less so than in the comics.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (3OIiX)
If you want to do chick action movies, do the Yazidi and Kurdish women fighting ISIS.
Never happen.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (mbhDw)
People want the real thing no matter how hard you try steer them in a different direction. Another example was the New Coke.
Posted by: Decaf at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (U5yng)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (8iiMU)
So fresh and exciting and new that you couldn't come up with anything fresh and exciting and new like their own character?
Posted by: t-bird at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (kuiuS)
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LOL. I'm going to one up you. I've got three scripts ready to go.
Posted by: shibumi, american badass at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (aT+Bx)
I've had four produced already.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:00 PM (mbhDw)
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This is totally not believable. Speaking of which, you are head of IT at big company, no? And so sexy! Let's talk about how great you are over dinner with many many drinks...yes?
Posted by: Anna Chapman at July 24, 2017 07:00 PM (aZq03)
Also, the fact that Gal Gadot served in the Israeli army makes her awesome in real life.
Posted by: iwuzhere at July 24, 2017 07:00 PM (jiGGU)
Chris Hemsworth might still be trying to clean up his rep from a Halloween party he and his wife threw a few years back where they dressed up like stereotypical Indians, casino, not 7-11. Chris seems like he has a good time doing movies like Thor, though, and most of those viewers won't know and wouldn't care if they did. Guess he's got to play PC if he wants to be cast.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 24, 2017 07:00 PM (FQKBL)
I mentioned it the other day, but the very forgettable unremarkable actor John Heard died.
Heard was in a lotta shit, too. But nobody remembers him or could pick him out of a line up.
(Well, now they could pick him out of a line-up because he'd be the dead guy.)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 07:00 PM (OQLuX)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2017 07:00 PM (mcI77)
KILL BILL
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 24, 2017 07:00 PM (V2Yro)
her race was a major plot point. To the point of parody, really ugly
parody."
She calls Eddy and Roland "honkies", so that pretty much declares it.
I think the new movie doesn't happen in the same "when" as the book, so maybe it's another of the "many worlds" allowing a parallel Roland.
I still think it's sketchy.
Posted by: goodluckduck at July 24, 2017 07:00 PM (yqvys)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2017 07:01 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Pink Floyd at July 24, 2017 07:01 PM (6n332)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 24, 2017 07:01 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 07:01 PM (c92y+)
You could make a movie (or start a series) about one of them, or a new one.
But the point isn't to do something new, is it? It's to take away something old that makes you feel bad because it doesn't "belong" to you.
Otherwise, you *would* do something new, instead of stomping on something old and whining about backlash.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2017 07:01 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: DM at July 24, 2017 07:01 PM (garNZ)
I shall have you flayed, maggot.
Posted by: empress manduhai, despot of all under heaven at July 24, 2017 07:01 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Decaf at July 24, 2017 07:01 PM (U5yng)
**
I just rewatched Necessary Roughness because sad. And all writing about females who can do what males do has not progressed beyond the Kathy Ireland role.
1. me girl, do stuff.
2. You girl, I mock because I am mean man.
3. I kick you in nads, mean man.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:02 PM (AU4SY)
btw, can you believe how stupid we all were for actually pre-mourning John McCain.
He's still alive!!
And.....he's 80 frikkin years old already.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 07:02 PM (OQLuX)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2017 07:02 PM (bkUtD)
Bat Vag!
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:02 PM (0mRoj)
Remake the Mel Gibson, Danny Glover cop series with, get this, Amy Schumer and Wanda Sykes.
Surefire hit, people.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:02 PM (mbhDw)
But shoehorning him into every role isn't working. It's an insult to him and his talent. He should not be frelling Heimdall. The Norse were not black men.
The Roland thing...I dunno if King ever described the gunslinger's race.
Though I'm a little honked off by the blackening in A Wrinkle in Time. What's that about?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 06:52 PM (3OIiX)
Honestly, I originally thought the roles were reversed, Matthew McConaughey being from Texas and all would be almost typecasting as The Gunslinger and Idris Elba pretty much brings whatever he needs to whatever he's doing. I suspect, however, there was a "black man as Man in Black is problematic, hey let's subvert the trope!" discussion.
For A Wrinkle in Time - it was a book, so there's no explicit race, so why not?
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 24, 2017 07:03 PM (17QyB)
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Does she still have sex with half the women in Asia?
Posted by: Obligatory at July 24, 2017 07:03 PM (aZq03)
Remake the Mel Gibson, Danny Glover cop series with, get this, Amy Schumer and Wanda Sykes.
Surefire hit, people.
****
FWIW, I thoght the new CHIPs movie was good.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:03 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2017 07:03 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: NYCcon at July 24, 2017 07:03 PM (WBmux)
Posted by: Tradd at July 24, 2017 06:47 PM (7+kA5)
Lynda Carter is 66 today.
Screen door/hurricane.
Posted by: Country Boy at July 24, 2017 07:04 PM (oVrnh)
Genghis Cohen. A badass super-lawyer who slams you with lawsuits.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:04 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 24, 2017 07:04 PM (Mcvvl)
Posted by: Creative Hollywood Genius at July 24, 2017 07:04 PM (j+dfT)
Why not just do a shot-for-shot remake of Mandingo?
Posted by: Cyril Figgis at July 24, 2017 07:04 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:04 PM (AU4SY)
All they care about these days is the movie franchises they produce via Marvel Studios. One blockbuster can more than make up for years and years of declining, poor comic sales.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:04 PM (eMKNe)
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A transman Wonder Woman? OH YES!!!!
Posted by: Some Hollywierdo at July 24, 2017 07:04 PM (aZq03)
Who told you about that?!! Oh I thought you were talking about the CGI 00 program rolled over from the Arkanside initiative. And Seth Rich and Vince Foster were members of Spectre.
Posted by: H at July 24, 2017 07:05 PM (0ecq3)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 07:05 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:04 PM (AU4SY)
That would be called "Shafted."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:05 PM (mbhDw)
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I see Charlize more as Mata Hari than a spy trying to help the good guys.
Posted by: Decaf at July 24, 2017 07:05 PM (U5yng)
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (AU4SY)
King can write, and he can plot, but his character design is tedious, hackneyed crap. Never understood why so many people like his stuff.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:05 PM (Xuv2G)
What would the female Bat signal appear as?
Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2017 07:03 PM (mcI77)
Boobs accidently brushing against you
Posted by: Anna Chapman at July 24, 2017 07:05 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2017 07:06 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2017 07:06 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 07:06 PM (c92y+)
KILL BILL
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 24, 2017 07:00 PM (V2Yro)
I think Tarantino described the characters in Kill Bill first in the restaurant scene in Pulp Fiction.
They're Fox Force Five.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 24, 2017 07:06 PM (17QyB)
And she's going to be down with Islam, too, because nobody tells us what to do! Nobody without a sword, that is.
Posted by: BBC at July 24, 2017 07:06 PM (OBJWS)
I have an idea for a superhero: TightsMan. The world's first cross-dressing superhero. "He's got a run... for justice!"
And his sidekick would be "The Legg!!". A high-heel-wearing leg... but the audience would *never* see any other part of her. Just the leg. (The Legg!! is always sticking out of one of the bordered sides of the drawing.) And TightsMan could never count on exactly when she shows up.
I know, I'm weird.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:07 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Glenn John at July 24, 2017 07:07 PM (LilNs)
All they care about these days is the movie franchises they produce via Marvel Studios. One blockbuster can more than make up for years and years of declining, poor comic sales.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:04 PM (eMKNe)
That's almost certainly true. The comics themselves are pretty much just part of the marketing budget these days.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:07 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 07:06 PM (c92y+)
They are my last hurrah in show biz. My time has come and gone, but these two have a shot. Will keep you posted but I don't want to reveal my identity.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:07 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (0ecq3)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (c92y+)
...
Yo.
Posted by: Ripley at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (yL25O)
I've written it before but, King uses pretty much all the same stock characters in his novels and films nowadays. It's beyond tedious, but apparently some people can never get enough of it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: MAGA at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (3nXeu)
Posted by: Glenn John at July 24, 2017 07:07 PM (LilNs)
"FLAME ON!!!"
- - Winnie Mandela and the Inner Tubes of Doom
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (AU4SY)
correction
King can write, and he can plot, but his character design is tedious, hackneyed crap. Never understood why so many people like his stuff.
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I like his stuff but there are...flaws. as we've ID'd. His cuckoo liberalism does tend to infect everything, so you get shit like the asides in the TommyKnockers. Oh well.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (AU4SY)
For A Wrinkle in Time - it was a book, so there's no explicit race, so why not?
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 24, 2017 07:03 PM (17QyB)
I agree about the casting, oh I'm sure they'll do fine but it would be more on the nose to reverse the casting.
Meg Murray and the twins and Charles the youngest are all pretty white. Charles has blue eyes, looking at Wiki.
Just feels weird to me. Not rage inducing like the mulitcultural NORSE GODS, but odd.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (3OIiX)
But shoehorning him into every role isn't working. It's an insult to him and his talent. He should not be frelling Heimdall. The Norse were not black men.
I think the character was blind in the movie, so he may not have known he was black.
Posted by: Ghey Alien Leader in Plan 9 at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (zZWkn)
If you keep having trouble getting your "ideas" out, try prunes. Ex-lax, if need be.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Deadpool at July 24, 2017 06:55 PM (0mRoj)
Too late, Broheim. You've already been usurped by Gwenpool.
Posted by: Hikaru at July 24, 2017 07:09 PM (Vevy5)
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There is no proof that anyone in Hollywood has a modicum of actual intelligence. The bigwigs OK a project on the basis of who flatters them the most. That a project makes money is a fluke.
Posted by: Decaf at July 24, 2017 07:09 PM (U5yng)
Off sock
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 24, 2017 07:09 PM (lKyWE)
dismal James Bond movie so I hope they actually take Hemsworth's advice
and just set their IP on fire, forever."
Word.
Posted by: exliberal at July 24, 2017 07:09 PM (g2eRy)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2017 07:09 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: tu3031 at July 24, 2017 06:45 PM (qJhUV)
Tank Girl.
Posted by: havildar-major at July 24, 2017 07:09 PM (jpW6t)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2017 07:09 PM (bkUtD)
Anals, not Angels.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:10 PM (mbhDw)
hackneyed crap. Never understood why so many people like his stuff."
His first dozen or so books were almost perfect airplane reads - you could finish them in the time it took to fly to wherever it was you were going. Kind of like Tom Clancy, or John Grisham, I suppose.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 24, 2017 07:10 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2017 07:10 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:10 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Sharkman at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (pwpl3)
I think the character was blind in the movie, so he may not have known he was black.
Posted by: Ghey Alien Leader in Plan 9 at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (ANIFC)
LOL
Nice
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (3OIiX)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (4e+hS)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (c92y+)
Seriously how would that even work?
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:10 PM (yL25O)
Think London Boys with ass-less chaps.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (mbhDw)
There are a number of canon 00 agents who are female.
You could make a movie (or start a series) about one of them, or a new one.
Has pr0nhub done one about Agent 0069 yet?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (8iiMU)
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And if by "Yazidi and Kurdish women", you mean "black Muslim women, and if by "ISIS," you mean "conservatives," yeah, you've got something there.
Posted by: shibumi, american badass at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2017 06:57 PM (9g/6M)
Topless women.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 06:59 PM (0mRoj)
That was "Shaka Zulu"
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 24, 2017 07:12 PM (RrhD2)
you could call it 3000 Years A Slave.
of the Chinese.
because they wouldn't be having it. it being everyone's shit.
Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 24, 2017 07:12 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Eromero at July 24, 2017 07:12 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2017 07:12 PM (9g/6M)
It isn't like brains run in the family...
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 24, 2017 07:12 PM (/o9Qk)
http://moviegique.com/index.php/2017/07/21/ghostbusters-extended-cut-2016/
Some people enjoy reading the negative reviews most of all.....
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2017 07:12 PM (7zeA4)
And Natalie Portman wants no further part in the MCU - she's too high class for that stuff (unlike Anthony Hopkins, Glenn Close, Benedict Cumberbatch, Ben Kingsley, Daniel Brühl and Stellan Skarsgård, who are all just low-rent hacks, apparently).
Posted by: Holdfast at July 24, 2017 07:12 PM (nNdYv)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (c92y+)
I appreciate that. I was only referring to show business as a writer of scripts. My time there really is at an end, and if you have seen anything out of Hollywood over the past 15 years or so, you'd know why.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:13 PM (mbhDw)
Get Stupid
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2017 06:50 PM (IqV8l)
Missed it by... that much....
Posted by: exliberal at July 24, 2017 07:13 PM (g2eRy)
Seriously how would that even work?
Posted by: TexasDa
****
well, seduction is a male archetype because it's harder for men to get all the ladies when most ladies can get all the guys.
So, what are female traits that Jemma Bond would posses besides the pooosy honey trap?
combat, nope.
tech skills, nope.
lactation, maybe.
gossiping about alice in accounting, definitely.
look, jemma bond is going to have to have a skillset besides blowing nerds for launch codes
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:13 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 24, 2017 07:13 PM (17QyB)
Because it's become obvious, James Bond is *not* a name. It's a *title.*
Also, people are calling the current movie "Atomic Blonde" the first female Bond flick.
So I dunno. Bond becoming a woman wouldn't be the end of the world in my tiny corner of it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:13 PM (eMKNe)
You could make a movie (or start a series) about one of them, or a new one.
Has pr0nhub done one about Agent 0069 yet?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (8iiMU)
There's a great cyberpunk/alt history anime and manga called 009-1. She's basically Jane Bond, bangs chicks and dudes, gets the job done, kills without too much remorse afterwards.
But I doubt Hollywood could do it and not mess it up. Look at the last Ghost in the Shell movie.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 07:13 PM (3OIiX)
I've written it before but, King uses pretty much all the same stock characters in his novels and films nowadays. It's beyond tedious, but apparently some people can never get enough of it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:08 PM (eMKNe)
To me the characters are the most important part. Pretty much every possible plot line was worked out hundreds of years ago. The skill in writing is making good characters and the wordsmithing.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:13 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (bkUtD)
Just the tip of the shaft, meester!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:13 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2017 07:09 PM (bkUtD)
Anals, not Angels.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:10 PM (mbhDw)
The better anals of our nature.
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: FWP TUB O IT at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (mbhDw)
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No, I will specifically un-think that.
Dang.
But you make my point. What is the demographic for that?
Also, my wife got to pick our last two movies, so she went full chick-flick.
They were both so bad (The Dressmaker and Me Before You) that I now get the remote for the forseeable future.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (yL25O)
I'm persona non grata in the movie thread so take this in context...but that's what irks me about discussing these things in this kind of detail. At the end of the day, a movie is a product. It works if it sells, and to sell it needs to entertain. Trying to make it into a science ruins the whole thing.
I dunno. I'm done caring about such things, I think. Hollywood is too crappy to give them reason for me to waste my remaining brain cells worrying about what they do or don't do.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (bkUtD)
Oy, they say this mensch Shaft is a bad muthashtupp...
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (nFwvY)
Octopenis will be goddamn horrifying, though. The Man With The Golden Gun could be interesting.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Anti-feminist at July 24, 2017 07:15 PM (0gAY0)
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2017 07:15 PM (7zeA4)
Octopenis will be goddamn horrifying, though. The Man With The Golden Gun could be interesting.
****
Tanaka?
Tanaka. Tanaka. Tanaka. Tanaka.
Tanaka. Tanaka.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:15 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2017 07:11 PM (bkUtD)
Oy, they say this mensch Shaft is a bad muthashtupp...
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (0mRoj)
Schvar---
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:15 PM (mbhDw)
Even fucking *Jeffrey Wells* thought it was too cartoony re saintly black folks vs. racist white cops, a la Mississippi Burning.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:15 PM (eMKNe)
Seriously how would that even work?
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:10 PM (yL25O)
It would be like Playgirl - ostensibly made for women but mostly appealing to gay men.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Jean at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (9TU00)
Isn't it remarkable how all the strong women out there wouldn't even exist in their spheres without a parasitic attachment to a male. Hillary, I'm looking at you.
Posted by: pep at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Jane Bond at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (HgMAr)
***
or sex and the city.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (AU4SY)
"She embodies every ounce of strength and nobility and dignity and integrity that that character should have," he said, perhaps forgetting that as a character, James Bond embodies every bit of the "toxic masculinity" feminists complain about. He's a womanizer, and a drunk, who has on multiple occasions expressed misogynistic views toward women or treated them as little more than sexual conquests who usually end up dead.
The guy's name is Ian Miles Cheong, which reminded me of the name "Fielding Melish" from Bananas.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (xAvrH)
"Can we have any female characters who aren't fundamentally parasitic free-riders on the goodwill and legacy of male character
Erin the Esurance girl
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (lKyWE)
Or stay British and go with Emily Blunt.
But they should be a new agent.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (wB8Tg)
Superfly. It zips the other way.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (mbhDw)
They'll remake all the Bedtime For Bonzos with a woman as Reagan and Bonzo will be a girl chimp.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (OQLuX)
Posted by: tu3031 at July 24, 2017 07:17 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 07:17 PM (OQLuX)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:17 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (rznWS)
...
Scrotum Galore?
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:17 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: pep at July 24, 2017 07:18 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2017 07:18 PM (mcI77)
If blacks and females were "interested but left out" they would have created their own; just like they did with sports.
I had the 12-year-old daughter of a friend of mine say, "Hey! I'm a girl and I like comic books! I read a Spider-Man comic once!"
I stared blankly for about five minutes, then said, "When I was your age, I had 3 steamer trunks filled with comic books; not one issue missing; all categorized and organized. Same with all my friends."
It's amazing how many chicks will go to comic-cons dressed in costume and acting like big fans, but they've never spent a dime on comic books.
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:18 PM (Okfnt)
Their second choice was Danny Trejo, so count yourselves lucky. Milana is almost TOO cute for the role.
Posted by: Squirrel Girl at July 24, 2017 07:18 PM (5xRXp)
The worst part of a female Bond would be the ... Bond boys. Seriously how would that even work? Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:10 PM (yL25O)
They could remake Goldfinger as a porno
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 24, 2017 07:18 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:18 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (AU4SY)
...
Or Outlander.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:18 PM (yL25O)
The worst part of a female Bond would be the ... Bond boys. Seriously how would that even work? Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:10 PM (yL25O)
They could remake Goldfinger as a porno
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 24, 2017 07:18 PM (lKyWE)
GlitterFinger.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:19 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 06:48 PM (Xuv2G)
Most average women could pull it off too.
Posted by: Country Boy at July 24, 2017 07:19 PM (oVrnh)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:19 PM (0mRoj)
They already had movie of "A Wrinkle in Time". It wasn't very good and I loved the series. MadelineL'Engle was a Christian-an Episcopalian before the church went SJW bonkers
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2017 07:19 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 24, 2017 07:20 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 24, 2017 07:20 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:19 PM (0mRoj)
Strangers On a Train, That Complain.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:20 PM (mbhDw)
http://moviegique.com/index.php/2015/03/26/what-we-do-in-the-shadows/
http://moviegique.com/index.php/2016/08/16/hunt-for-the-wilderpeople/
Portman adapted and directed "A Tale of Love and Darkness" which gives her more space to act, and a different story to tell, than she has in her mostly forgettable "Thor" (*kaff*StarWars*kaff*) role.
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2017 07:20 PM (7zeA4)
Posted by: Deplorable Male
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The opening pop/rock song could be done by Steely Dan!
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:20 PM (Okfnt)
I just find the settings and tropes that Hollywood seems to just insist *every* movie contain today, to be beyond tiresome:
I recently watched "Get Out." One of the things I liked about it, besides that for once the wealthy white liberals were portrayed as the problem, was that the lead character, Chris, was portrayed as a successful; photographer... but he certainly didn't seem like he was rolling in money.
I personally would like to see more stories about middle-class and lower-middle class people, struggling through and making it, but they don't have to always find a billion dollars in treasure or end up with 100% problem-free lives at the end.
In fact Patricia Heaton's sitcom "The Middle" is IMHO one of the best shows in this regard. The Hecks aren't rich and sometimes even struggle, but they make it through and there's no magic miracle at the end. They just love and/or muddle their way through every situation.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:20 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: pep at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (LAe3v)
****
she got a huge ass...but those tits, boy!
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (AU4SY)
Well enough. Some of the episodes were screwy, but the good ones were really good.
Shirley Manson was really good.
Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:14 PM (yL25O)
Me Before You is a horrible, godawful movie with a horrible message that encourages euthanasia and suicide.
I was visibly angry after watching it.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (/o9Qk)
But so does Alec Baldwin.
People *really* have to stop mixing up characters and actors.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (wB8Tg)
Or stay British and go with Emily Blunt.
But they should be a new agent.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (wB8Tg)
They could remake The Avengers again, doing it right this time. Emma Peel is a good character.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (0mRoj)
Comic book superheroes were all (nearly all) white males because that's who was interested in them.
Back in the 1950's they actually did try to make a comic book for African Americans but it failed
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (lKyWE)
****
she got a huge ass...but those tits, boy!
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (AU4SY)
Would definitely hit that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (mbhDw)
Sure you will.
Posted by: Squirrel Girl at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (5xRXp)
I've watched Doctor Who since I was a kid. And now I'm done. They cast a woman not because it makes a better story but because diversity(!!!) and those Brits love their virtue signaling. And every Fing story on the casting had the word "brave" cited prominently. I'm pretty sure it will kill the Who franchise bc its core fans are nerds who, like me, grew up with the sometimes quirky sometimes grumpy but always male Doctor and have no intrest in seeing more virtue signaling in their viewing. It won't eve appeal to millennialist. My 22 year old niece, who watches Who and loves to talk about it w me is crushed.
I'm tired of it. If Marvel wasn't making shit tons of money off th movies they'd be trying less virtue signaling in their comics and more attempts to retain readers and make profit.
Posted by: Baboo the Ocelot at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (xuiV/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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Strangers On a Train, That Complain... About The Manspreading Of Other Passengers.
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:22 PM (Okfnt)
This is the goal of Leftism, after all.
Misery for all!! (Well, for "the masses", anyways).
Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at July 24, 2017 07:22 PM (GdgAM)
Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at July 24, 2017 07:22 PM (dTDoQ)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 24, 2017 07:22 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:22 PM (mbhDw)
A while back, the notion of Bond boys or Bond Twinks for a gay James Bond came up here. Maybe it would work for a female Bond, but it wouldn't be quite the same:
Spunk Galore, for instance.
If She-Bond is into pegging, then the maybe the butt-boy based nicknames would work, too. But it wouldn't be the same.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 24, 2017 07:22 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at July 24, 2017 07:22 PM (Y5ToW)
Posted by: Marvel Comics at July 24, 2017 07:23 PM (jCMs8)
Posted by: Strobe at July 24, 2017 07:23 PM (Hiw4g)
I look at the movie as an audition for Bond.
That movie was awful.
Posted by: Croms Dirty Underpants: Would you fukc me? I'd fukc me at July 24, 2017 07:23 PM (tYPH9)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:23 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:23 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2017 07:23 PM (xAvrH)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 24, 2017 07:23 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:23 PM (eMKNe)
"Can we have any female characters who aren't fundamentally parasitic free-riders on the goodwill and legacy of male character
Erin the Esurance girl
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 24, 2017 07:16 PM (lKyWE)
You know why the abruptly stopped with that ad campaign?
Lots and lots and lots of Erin Esurance.........porn.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (17QyB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (dKiJG)
Eyeshadow of a Doubt.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (mbhDw)
That's Gold Jerry! Gold!
Posted by: Bania at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (jpW6t)
Posted by: Strobe at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (Hiw4g)
ATT Wireless commercials) as me in Marvel's first sitcom.
Dear ATT.
I know you think people are paying attention to your commercials and your products, but they're really not.
Posted by: pep at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (LAe3v)
****
lez think of the dynamics, Bond nailed hot chicks because until millenials, rich powerful men had hot ass girl friends. Now, the most evil men in the world, like Cuckerberg, have hard 5 girlfriends.
so would you need to be a supersmooth, handsome devil to nail that so as to get the launch codes?
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (mbhDw)
They keep shoving chick fights onto UFC PPVs, but chick fights aren't popular. Ronda Rousey was popular when they created a fake mythology around her that she was an ass kicking badass that could beat up male fighters. But then she got wrecked by Holly Holm and spent the next year hiding and eating ice cream. Then she came back and got beaten up by a lesbian and everyone lost interest in chick fights.
But here they are still shoveling it at us on the backs of the more popular male fighters.
Posted by: Warden at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (YOnlm)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (0mRoj)
didn't want female characters out there. That's what we heard, whether
we believe that or not. I don't know that that's really true, but that's
what we saw in sales. We saw the sales of any character that was
diverse, any character that was new, our female characters, anything
that was not a core Marvel character, people were turning their nose up
against.
How does this jamoke keep his job?!
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (Enq6K)
Tootsie! Oh, wait a second....
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:25 PM (mbhDw)
Ignore them. Completely. And when they scream on twitter how outraged they are that you're ignoring them, ignore them even more.
I would love to see a company try that. I might actually buy their product if they did so.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 24, 2017 07:25 PM (MZcWR)
Posted by: t-bird at July 24, 2017 07:25 PM (jCMs8)
But so does Alec Baldwin.
People *really* have to stop mixing up characters and actors.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (wB8Tg)
Agreed. Baldwin is insufferable as a person, but nobody is ever going to top is "coffee is for closers" speech in GGR.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:25 PM (Xuv2G)
didn't want female characters out there. That's what we heard, whether
we believe that or not. I don't know that that's really true, but that's
what we saw in sales. We saw the sales of any character that was
diverse, any character that was new, our female characters, anything
that was not a core Marvel character, people were turning their nose up
against.
How does this jamoke keep his job?!
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 24, 2017 07:24 PM (Enq6K)
They should fire their customers!
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:25 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Roman Polanski at July 24, 2017 07:26 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Strobe at July 24, 2017 07:26 PM (Hiw4g)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 07:26 PM (c92y+)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:25 PM (0mRoj)
No shit! Effing customers....
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 24, 2017 07:26 PM (Enq6K)
Guess Who's Fucking Up Dinner?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:26 PM (mbhDw)
So there's gender stuff going on now. In retrospect, I'm wondering why it took so long.
Posted by: Bear of Color at July 24, 2017 07:27 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: Pussy Galore at July 24, 2017 07:27 PM (GdgAM)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:27 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 24, 2017 07:28 PM (2VN2E)
I was visibly angry after watching it.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (/o9Qk)
...
Yep. I've been ranting in my head for two weeks.
This silver spoon douche cannot find a reason to live because he can't ride horses anymore or something, and we should honor how noble he is for Not Settling For Less or something.
Right.
He's got more money than God so he lacks no creature comfort or diversion that money can buy, and they even demonstrate that he can, in fact, enjoy meaningfully even some of the stuff he "can't do anymore" because, turns out, with enough money you can even do that stuff too.
But no, he's got to off himself, because anyone who can't still skydive should just kill themselves.
Never mind that all of us reach the point where we can't skydive and ride horses anymore. Certainly let's not pretend there could anything meaningful in life beyond those things.
Horrible movie.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:28 PM (yL25O)
so would you need to be a supersmooth, handsome devil to nail that so as to get the launch codes?
Posted by: andrew jarbacka
Or just go with 0000000
Posted by: Jean at July 24, 2017 07:28 PM (9TU00)
so, bond does a few things in his movies.
1. he inflitrates
2 he seduces significant others of the evil doers
3. he sticks around to gum up the works
4. he gets captured and then escapes
5. cleans up.
can jemma bond do all of that? She can just blow the IT guy to get the information.
And this rambling nonsense has made me recall the Cuban Spy that Tom Clancy came up with who made his bread and butter by hitting up the secretaries of various spy agency heads, moms n' shit.
I think it was Clear and Present Danger.
That's problaby more real life.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:28 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: Bear of Color
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It actually happened immediately. "Seduction of the Innocent" was about the moral cancer of comic books, including the gay subtext of Batman & Robin.
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:28 PM (Okfnt)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM
well played
golf clap
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 24, 2017 07:28 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Captain Vulva at July 24, 2017 07:28 PM (2wRtc)
80s Porn had a "Jane Bond" series, IIRC. "The Mand with the Golden Rod". Amber Lynn, Google says.
I'm sure there are some modern remakes.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 24, 2017 07:29 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:29 PM (mbhDw)
Why is it not okay to ADMIT that woman, in general, do not do interesting things??
So sick of this bullshit FAKE pretend PC world we live in.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 07:29 PM (OQLuX)
According to my self-imposed rule, I own it for the rest of the thread.
Posted by: Bear of Color at July 24, 2017 07:29 PM (zkGZ8)
I've watched Doctor Who since I was a kid. And now I'm done. They cast a woman not because it makes a better story but because diversity(!!!) and those Brits love their virtue signaling. And every Fing story on the casting had the word "brave" cited prominently. I'm pretty sure it will kill the Who franchise bc its core fans are nerds who, like me, grew up with the sometimes quirky sometimes grumpy but always male Doctor and have no intrest in seeing more virtue signaling in their viewing. It won't eve appeal to millennialist. My 22 year old niece, who watches Who and loves to talk about it w me is crushed.
I'm tired of it. If Marvel wasn't making shit tons of money off th movies they'd be trying less virtue signaling in their comics and more attempts to retain readers and make profit.
Posted by: Baboo the Ocelot at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (xuiV/)
I think after this last Doctor, there isn't much life left anyway, so they went there because this is probably the last chance to do so. I imagine this will give them a slight uptick out of curiosity but that's about it. The ratings this year were abysmal (0.05 share) despite a noticeable improvement in the stories compared to the previous 2 years.
They don't care anyway, everyone involved with Who can get another gig on a different or new show, and they'll have Who on their resume even if it were only to destroy it.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 24, 2017 07:29 PM (17QyB)
Andy? Hardly!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:29 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 24, 2017 07:29 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: Orson at July 24, 2017 07:29 PM (BB/1p)
Posted by: fluffy at July 24, 2017 07:29 PM (jw2Xw)
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:30 PM (yL25O)
But I doubt Hollywood could do it and not mess it up. Look at the last Ghost in the Shell movie.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2017 07:13 PM (3OIiX)
Ugh, the last thing I want to see them do is f*** around with having someone explain "9-1"/"Kyuu no Ichi"/"Kunoichi" pun
And then the butchering of the main Cyborg 009 series that would inevitably follow.
And worse yet, the butchering of Skull Man that would follow THAT.
Posted by: Hikaru at July 24, 2017 07:30 PM (Vevy5)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 24, 2017 07:30 PM (OQLuX)
but they make it through and there's no magic miracle at the end. They
just love and/or muddle their way through every situation.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:20 PM (eMKNe)
THIS. And, the Hecks are self-aware that they are necessarily the greatest parents, but they try.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 24, 2017 07:30 PM (8iiMU)
So it presumably won't be long till _My Mother, The Car_ is remade as _My Father, The Blundering Ineffectual Car_.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2017 07:30 PM (ujwCG)
Posted by: Fritz at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (eLttb)
Ignore them. Completely. And when they scream on twitter how outraged they are that you're ignoring them, ignore them even more.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 24, 2017 07:25 PM (MZcWR)
Ignore a tiny minority of malcontents whose complaints are amplified out of all proportion by social media?
It just... might... work.
Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (sdi6R)
So it presumably won't be long till _My Mother, The Car_ is remade as _My Father, The Blundering Ineffectual Car_.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2017 07:30 PM (ujwCG)
My Father, the Clunker.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (mbhDw)
Agreed. Baldwin is insufferable as a person, but nobody is ever going to top is "coffee is for closers" speech in GGR.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:25 PM (Xuv2G)
GGR?
Posted by: Country Boy at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (oVrnh)
**********
You will make Ronda Rousey happen and like it, peasant.
XXOO
some hollywood guy snorting coke off dana whites bald head
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Brisco_County at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (oocVr)
Posted by: USNtakim
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Unfortunately, when the left wants a crop of new voters all they need to do is drop the borders.
If we wanted a new bunch of voters, we would have to build a fucking time machine and drag some people out of the much saner past.
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (Okfnt)
Posted by: Don Quioxite, who will NOT turn into Dulcinea! at July 24, 2017 07:32 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 24, 2017 07:32 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Bear of Color at July 24, 2017 07:27 PM (zkGZ
Wasn't everybody having this EXACT conversation about Rob Halford a couple days ago?
Posted by: Hikaru at July 24, 2017 07:32 PM (Vevy5)
As it turns out, you can. DC did just that in the 90s, with the Knightfall storyline. Bruce Wayne took time off, and had someone else--who turned out to be a bit crazy--take over the suit.
Spoiler alert: people hated it.
When it was over, DC said a bunch of people asked why they did it, and they said "hey, people have said forever that they wanted a grimmer, grittier, Batman, so we gave it to you."
Posted by: Rick C at July 24, 2017 07:32 PM (ITnFO)
Posted by: Strobe at July 24, 2017 07:26 PM (Hiw4g)
Lucy Liu could have done a passable Odd Job in her prime.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:33 PM (Xuv2G)
Really? What qualifies as an interesting thing?. There are plenty of movies with strong, smart women characters-but they tend to be movies before the PC stuff took over.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2017 07:33 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:33 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: The Fallopian Four at July 24, 2017 07:33 PM (2wRtc)
I'm amazed the network or studio didn't insist on making them rich, super-liberals, and/or anything else but white.
Hollywood execs can bleat about "diversity" all they want, but it's obvious they *only* want to see shows about people *just like them*: hypereducated, wealthy, living in the bluest of blue cities/suburbs, with fairly easy lives, super-high self-regard and no real problems.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:33 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 24, 2017 07:33 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Country Boy at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (oVrnh)
Greedence Greer Water Revival, I think.
Tribute band of one sort.
Posted by: havildar-major at July 24, 2017 07:33 PM (jpW6t)
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:34 PM (yL25O)
----
The only people who don't want the NBA coming back to Seattle are the WNBA.
The women's basketball here is like the girl baseball players during WWII: just a lame fill-in act.
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:34 PM (Okfnt)
Agreed. Baldwin is insufferable as a person, but nobody is ever going to top is "coffee is for closers" speech in GGR.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:25 PM (Xuv2G)
GGR?
Posted by: Country Boy at July 24, 2017 07:31 PM (oVrnh)
Glengarry Glen Ross.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:34 PM (Xuv2G)
Four hours of a white lesbian getting the shit raped out of her by Arab hordes? That might get tedious. But Lara Logan is tanned, recovered, and ready, I suppose.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 24, 2017 07:34 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:35 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 24, 2017 07:35 PM (2VN2E)
If blacks and females were "interested but left out" they would have created their own; just like they did with sports.
I had the 12-year-old daughter of a friend of mine say, "Hey! I'm a girl and I like comic books! I read a Spider-Man comic once!"
I stared blankly for about five minutes, then said, "When I was your age, I had 3 steamer trunks filled with comic books; not one issue missing; all categorized and organized. Same with all my friends."
It's amazing how many chicks will go to comic-cons dressed in costume and acting like big fans, but they've never spent a dime on comic books.
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:18 PM (Okfnt)
Yeah same here but I am more of a DC man and I stopped buying comic books when they fucked with Blue Beetle and made him a teenage and Mexician with super powers
Also Dr Who, let's not forget that the BBC fucked up Top Gear. They Wanted Clarkson out and put a Executive from BBC because they didn't like him poo pooing Global Warming.
They are also going to ruin Star Trek by giving Spock a Black adopted sister. Fuck these people.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 24, 2017 07:35 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 24, 2017 07:35 PM (6n332)
As it turns out, you can. DC did just that in the 90s, with the Knightfall storyline. Bruce Wayne took time off, and had someone else--who turned out to be a bit crazy--take over the suit.
Spoiler alert: people hated it.
When it was over, DC said a bunch of people asked why they did it, and they said "hey, people have said forever that they wanted a grimmer, grittier, Batman, so we gave it to you."
Posted by: Rick C at July 24, 2017 07:32 PM (ITnFO)
Everyone got that treatment in the 90s. Superman dies, Green lantern became a super villain, Aquaman drowned in the tub...
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2017 07:35 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Menstrual Man at July 24, 2017 07:36 PM (2wRtc)
That reminds me, a Brit condom company has announced a smart cock ring. Not kidding. It's called the iCon.
It interfaces with your smart phone and records various variables of one's performance. It will be connected to the cloud, and you'll upload your data.
In the future, the womyn's can look up a prospect's performance data. Say on Tindr or whatever the hell it is.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 24, 2017 07:36 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 24, 2017 07:36 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2017 07:36 PM (xAvrH)
Posted by: Country Boy at July 24, 2017 07:36 PM (oVrnh)
Posted by: Don Quioxite, who will NOT turn into Dulcinea!
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Emma Peel.
God help me... Now I'm going to image search for the next 3 hours!
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:37 PM (Okfnt)
Talk about a TV show that won't pass the Bechdel Test.
Posted by: Squirrel Girl at July 24, 2017 07:37 PM (5xRXp)
not only is Hollyweird too FING 5t()()pId to come up with fresh, new ideas for movies, etc that DON'T suck, they are hell bent on destroying their old reliables as well...
pass the pop corn: i lurve this shit.
Posted by: ONT at July 24, 2017 07:37 PM (khHmL)
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2017 07:37 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Country Boy
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The Sonics packed up and moved a few years ago.
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:37 PM (Okfnt)
Posted by: Country Boy at July 24, 2017 07:38 PM (oVrnh)
Posted by: kallisto at July 24, 2017 07:38 PM (g+Dix)
I'm not worried, because there are always more where you came from.
Posted by: V. I. Lenin, HR at July 24, 2017 07:38 PM (GdgAM)
can't skydive and ride horses anymore. Certainly let's not pretend there
could anything meaningful in life beyond those things.
Horrible movie.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:28 PM (yL25O)
Not to mention that he finds true love...but even that is overruled by his complete selfishness.
Fuck that movie.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 24, 2017 07:38 PM (/o9Qk)
They're listening to the wrong people.
Which is emblematic of this whole dumb discussion. (Not here. Everything here -- solid gold, pure gems, naturally.)
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2017 07:38 PM (7zeA4)
models of just gender-swapping established heroes and hope it'll work
out better this time."
You know, like socialism. We should all follow the Soviet Union and Venezuela failed models of government and just try socialism again and hope it'll work out better this time.
Posted by: yyymale at July 24, 2017 07:38 PM (D/SQY)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2017 07:39 PM (xAvrH)
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at July 24, 2017 07:39 PM (Cx6f7)
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I'm just sailing in here without reading any comments, so maybe someone already said this, but they did just this with The Man From U.N.C.L.E. movie a couple of years ago and I liked that movie a lot.
I have never read a comic book, and I don't watch movies made from them, but even I know that changing all the heroes into woman characters is a really dumb move.
Posted by: bluebell at July 24, 2017 07:40 PM (UoSKV)
Posted by: Tiki Pond at July 24, 2017 07:40 PM (gPhy3)
Posted by: Fritz at July 24, 2017 07:40 PM (eLttb)
Or the post V2 Catholics. (and our current pope, who I should pray for)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 24, 2017 07:41 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 07:41 PM (c92y+)
Or if Maria Von Trapp were a man?
(You will be made to like these movies!)
Posted by: Bear of Color at July 24, 2017 07:41 PM (zkGZ8)
Fuck that movie.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 24, 2017 07:38 PM (/o9Qk)
...
Right. She actually has the right response when he tells her he's still going to off himself--and then her Dad says some crap about we have to love people the way they are and that somehow clears up what a screwed up thing this guy is doing, and so she does a 180 I guess and goes along with it.
I'm sure that movie had a death count.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:41 PM (yL25O)
Yes, I agree. I actually liked that movie as well - I though it did justice to the tv show and honored it without being over the top.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 24, 2017 07:41 PM (2VN2E)
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:41 PM (Okfnt)
Posted by: Martian Womanhunter at July 24, 2017 07:41 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:41 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Country Boy
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The Sonics packed up and moved a few years ago.
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:37 PM (Okfnt)
Moved to Oklahoma.
Been teased about an expansion of franchise move a number of times the past few years, but it never happens. I think Sacramento in 2013 was using a move to Seattle threat to get a better deal back home.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 24, 2017 07:42 PM (17QyB)
So it presumably won't be long till _My Mother, The Car_ is remade as _My Father, The Blundering Ineffectual Car_.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2017 07:30 PM (ujwCG)
My Father the K- Car
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 24, 2017 07:42 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: bluebell at July 24, 2017 07:42 PM (UoSKV)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 24, 2017 07:42 PM (MZcWR)
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at July 24, 2017 07:42 PM (Cx6f7)
Posted by: bluebell
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I loved Henry Cavill in that! He played right up to the edge of campy, then danced right on that borderline without ever crossing it. Genius.
Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:43 PM (Okfnt)
I was visibly angry after watching it.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 24, 2017 07:21 PM (/o9Qk)
...
Yep. I've been ranting in my head for two weeks.
This silver spoon douche cannot find a reason to live because he can't ride horses anymore or something, and we should honor how noble he is for Not Settling For Less or something.
Right.
He's got more money than God so he lacks no creature comfort or diversion that money can buy, and they even demonstrate that he can, in fact, enjoy meaningfully even some of the stuff he "can't do anymore" because, turns out, with enough money you can even do that stuff too.
But no, he's got to off himself, because anyone who can't still skydive should just kill themselves.
Never mind that all of us reach the point where we can't skydive and ride horses anymore. Certainly let's not pretend there could anything meaningful in life beyond those things.
Horrible movie.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:28 PM (yL25O)
My Father was a Quadriplegic, I never saw him down on himself. I learned a lot from that man, I don't think I would have been as good of a man as him if it happened to me.
I hate movies and peoples thinking like this because it means my father is nothing and should be killed, that's why I am against abortion too.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 24, 2017 07:43 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Fritz the Producer at July 24, 2017 07:43 PM (eLttb)
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:34 PM (Xuv2G)
Oh. Never saw it.
Posted by: Country Boy at July 24, 2017 07:38 PM (oVrnh)
It's a movie based on a play. Depressing as hell in a Death of a Salesman kind of way. But this one scene is gold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4PE2hSqVnk
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:43 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: kallisto at July 24, 2017 07:43 PM (g+Dix)
One of my friends' sons is a pretty well respected director. He has turned his attention to tv because the movie side seems to be fading if not dying.
Posted by: RM at July 24, 2017 07:43 PM (eP+dt)
The Sonics packed up and moved a few years ago. Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2017 07:37 PM (Okfnt)
Time flys it was 10 years ago
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 24, 2017 07:43 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Squirrel Girl at July 24, 2017 07:43 PM (5xRXp)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 24, 2017 07:44 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 24, 2017 07:44 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: Aquawoman at July 24, 2017 07:44 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: Pete Goodell at July 24, 2017 07:45 PM (jCMs8)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
________
If you have a couple of hours, look up "Star Trek Horizon" on YouTube.
(Trust me. Trust the Bear of Color.)
Posted by: Bear of Color at July 24, 2017 07:45 PM (zkGZ8)
True. No argument here. But sometimes, the *original* think they have to fuck up, isn't that great to begin with.
Case in Point: Pretty Woman. After it came out, there was a ton of essays written about what a giant pile of sexist horseshit it was, how unrealistic it was about prostitution in LA... it just got torn to pieces by tons of liberals and feminists.
Then another filmmaker even set out to spoof it, with a dark version of it titled "Whore."
Now, all of this was a ridiculous overreaction. But HAVING SAID THAT... the original movie Pretty Woman is also, IMHO, a giant steaming turd itself. It's just such a fairy tale, such a rose-colored Brady Bunch version of real life... I frankly doubt I could sit through it again.
So I'm not big on women who *hated* PW, but I'm not big on women who love it either. ;-)
Hope this makes sense.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:45 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Aquawoman at July 24, 2017 07:44 PM (2wRtc)
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Okay, that cracked me up!
Posted by: bluebell at July 24, 2017 07:45 PM (UoSKV)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 24, 2017 07:45 PM (GZq1Z)
Posted by: Pete Goodell at July 24, 2017 07:45 PM (jCMs
Yes! I'm back in the game!
Posted by: Colin Kapernick at July 24, 2017 07:45 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:34 PM (Xuv2G)
Oh. Never saw it.
Posted by: Country Boy at July 24, 2017 07:38 PM (oVrnh)
It's a movie based on a play. Depressing as hell in a Death of a Salesman kind of way. But this one scene is gold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4PE2hSqVnk
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:43 PM (Xuv2G)
That scene, and his character, were written for the movie not in the original play) to give Baldwin a showpiece. That's how on his game he was back then.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 24, 2017 07:45 PM (17QyB)
The female Thor - I always wondered - why didn't they just use Sif? Isn't she just...the female version of Thor? Why get rid of Thor? He could go on a break of some type and Sif could agree to take his place. If she is popular, she could be spun off into her own comic. Happens all the time. Could be fun to compare and contrast how Sif is different from Thor. They could team up and have fun adventures.
What they are doing is saying "the Thor you know and love, that you have been following for decades, is gone now. Here is a new Thor. Fuck off." The people pushing them to make this decision don't read comic books, and those that do don't care for the change.
There have been successful female characters added. the Captain Marvels have been pretty popular. Also the young girl haweye. But in those cases the original was never killed or eliminated. They just went on to do other stuff. And someone else took up the title. Rhodey was Iron man for a while, while Iron Man worked out some personal stuff. No one cared, and sales were fine.
It is a little like the Robin thing. You don't kill Batman and replace him with Robin. You promote Robin to Nightwing (really an alternate Batman) and get a new Robin.
So, want diverse characters? Create new characters that are fun and interesting and have them interact with the old characters.
Posted by: Evergreen Student Body President at July 24, 2017 07:46 PM (UgF8H)
Posted by: Pete Goodell at July 24, 2017 07:45 PM (jCMs
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I met a female cop once who I could swear had been an NFL linebacker in her previous job.
Posted by: bluebell at July 24, 2017 07:46 PM (UoSKV)
Posted by: t-bird at July 24, 2017 07:46 PM (jCMs8)
That said, I hit about half of the top 40 box office.
And I've been cheating for the past year-and-a-half because I'm taking my kids to see all the classics, of which there has been an explosion in viewing opportunities.
Nonetheless, assuming you like some of the hot trash that Hollywood shovels out, you go see that, and then restrict your viewing to the weird, to the little, to the foreign, and you'll see some very good things indeed. And even a lot of the things that aren't exactly =good= are interesting.
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2017 07:47 PM (7zeA4)
Wait, wait, wait....you can "ruin" Star Trek?
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 24, 2017 07:48 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 24, 2017 07:49 PM (c92y+)
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:49 PM (yL25O)
****
yeah, I don't think King is capable of having a non-magical negro in a prominent role where the magic and the blackness are in your face.
****
Mike Hanlon from "It" was neither magical nor in your face.
Posted by: Son of Sam the Butcher at July 24, 2017 07:49 PM (VJBq9)
Posted by: Sexless Samurai at July 24, 2017 07:49 PM (2wRtc)
I get what you're saying. But I loved when they finally let her shop.
I heard the original ending is different. They changed it. I think the girl didnt end up with the guy in the end.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 24, 2017 07:49 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 24, 2017 07:50 PM (2VN2E)
Rather than a barracks fight, these young women can interrupt training with some bold strikes at the patriarchy such as pvssy costumes.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at July 24, 2017 07:50 PM (DxWUs)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 24, 2017 07:48 PM (rznWS)
...
Well, every other Star Trek, at least.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 24, 2017 07:50 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: qdpsteve
________
I saw "Whore." Julie Newmar was in it. That was its only redeeming quality.
(Sorry: SPOILER ALERT.)
Posted by: Bear of Color at July 24, 2017 07:50 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2017 07:51 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 24, 2017 07:51 PM (Enq6K)
He did participate in the gang-statutory rape of a white girl, though. Funny how that scene never made it into the original movie, and I bet it's not in the remake, either.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 24, 2017 07:52 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 24, 2017 07:45 PM (17QyB)
Huh. Learn somethin' new every day. I did not know that. Not that I'm what you would call a big Broadway guy.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:53 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: Country Boy at July 24, 2017 07:53 PM (oVrnh)
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual
________
And when was the last time you had a Bear of Color at your house for dinner?
Posted by: Bear of Color at July 24, 2017 07:53 PM (zkGZ8)
Movies can be great, but don't go to the trough if you don't want slop.
Posted by: moviegique at July 24, 2017 07:54 PM (7zeA4)
Really? What qualifies as an interesting thing?. There are plenty of movies with strong, smart women characters-but they tend to be movies before the PC stuff took over.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2017 07:33 PM (iVOAv)
and some of the ULTIMATE strong female fictional characters....
Like... Honor Harrington... they wont' touch, because the stories become pro military...
Posted by: Don Quioxite, who will NOT turn into Dulcinea! at July 24, 2017 07:55 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Next In Line For Season Tickets! at July 24, 2017 07:56 PM (jCMs8)
****
yeah, the last female villian of note was that bish in Double Impact what strangled blokes with her big fat thighs.
See, the PC police want all the heroes and quarterbacks but none of the villains or any yucky roles.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:57 PM (AU4SY)
I just have a lot of problems with that movie. In fact I have a lot of similar issues with The Shawshank Redemption.
Some movies just come off as pure wish fulfillment, and IMHO that doesn't usually make for great drama. "Imagine a world where EVERYONE ELSE is ALWAYS wrong, and YOU are ALWAYS RIGHT!! Where YOU are the hero and EVERYONE ELSE is a blithering idiot!!" No thanks, I just don't think I need that and I don't think it's healthy in the long run.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 24, 2017 07:57 PM (eMKNe)
He did participate in the gang-statutory rape of a white girl, though. Funny how that scene never made it into the original movie, and I bet it's not in the remake, either
****
um.
1. nerds.
2. uh what???????????
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:57 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 24, 2017 07:58 PM (398bZ)
XXOO
The modern day xena
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 24, 2017 07:58 PM (AU4SY)
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 24, 2017 07:18 PM (lKyWE)
I thought it was about a proctologist.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 24, 2017 08:02 PM (SRKgf)
So who asked you what you need, or cares about your answer?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 24, 2017 08:02 PM (SRKgf)
It's a movie based on a play. Depressing as hell in a Death of a Salesman kind of way. But this one scene is gold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4PE2hSqVnk
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 07:43 PM (Xuv2G)
Since then, the playwright, David Mamet, has come out as conservative.
Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2017 08:03 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2017 08:04 PM (xAvrH)
Posted by: Eromero at July 24, 2017 08:06 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Lena Dunham's Ex-Dog at July 24, 2017 08:10 PM (/fMdd)
It'll be totes awesome when Jane Bond tries to bed a bunch of men and endears herself into the hearts of millions. Tag line: I'm a little bit shaken, not stirred.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 24, 2017 08:11 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: goon at July 24, 2017 08:12 PM (EaQ6/)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 24, 2017 08:15 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Pendejo at July 24, 2017 08:16 PM (pJgMQ)
Posted by: goon at July 24, 2017 08:12 PM (EaQ6/)
Le Carre gets tiresome after awhile. The good guys are the bad guys in the end. It's so transgressive. Once.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2017 08:17 PM (Xuv2G)
Glen or Glenda Ross. Reanimate Zombie Ed Wood to direct.
Posted by: Lena Dunham's Ex-Dog at July 24, 2017 08:17 PM (/fMdd)
Posted by: Zapp Branigan at July 24, 2017 08:35 PM (FgFCM)
But the feminization of our male heroes is a commie plot ... no really, it is. They decided in the 50's on how to destroy our culture ... Orwell and "The Naked Communist" describe it in the 50's.
But even the "super power" thing is a trick. We individuals must fight without any super power. If we wait for a supernatural hero, we lose. So all this "Save us Spiderman" stuff is crap. We as mere mortals must decide to fight, even if we don't have a billion bucks or a single super power. "We" are the oneS we have been waiting for ... not Obama.
But we can/must rally around those the emerge as mortal heroes ... Trump, and I guess Kid Rock is next. ha ... well, maybe he is ... men willing to sacrifice what they worked hard to attain, for some higher purpose. God bless them.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 24, 2017 08:48 PM (HQuBO)
and women on Dr Oz complain about men that continue with inappropriate sexual actions when told to stop (or fuck off)
and bad boys are still very attractive right past the point where they abuse.
in the past, men took care of those that hurt women by putting them down. this no longer occurs as it is not proper and the police and lawyers get involved.
Western society has taken server steps past the point of no return. Adding non-Western society males is NOT going to help ladies. just accelerate the end.
Posted by: arbitrary turn back at July 24, 2017 08:53 PM (8RQER)
I would love to see the physical disparity between men and women handled realistically, and a different 00 that was female could be done that way. Not as as strong, she compensates with extensive weapons training. And I would love to see something especially vicious coming from a super sweet persona...she suddenly pulls a knife out of her hair and stabs someone in the neck. My mom was good with weapons. She hit dad in the face with a lamp once. Ah...good times.
Posted by: davedavedavearf at July 24, 2017 08:58 PM (BLayO)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 24, 2017 09:08 PM (hxWs0)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 24, 2017 09:08 PM (hxWs0)
Posted by: Bear of Color at July 24, 2017 09:11 PM (zkGZ8)
i go cause of the magic
and cause of i really like the classic stuff most of the new stuff is lame except for i love splash mountain
but i tell you what
last time i went watching them kiddos and them stormtroopers was special
them kids - their eyes get so big and they shrink into their strollers or behind mom or dad
and them troopers are hilarious
yup
it's pretty magical
Posted by: happyfeet at July 24, 2017 09:20 PM (mLfQi)
439 How about a new version of the Sands of Iwo Jima. It can feature an angry drunk, female Marine, Sgt Slutterwalk leading her squad up the side of Mount Suribachi, and at the end, an emotional raising of a flag, with some slogan, "yet she persisted" or a nice macrame made of used tampons.
All female Dunkirk. A series of bitchy slap fights / cat fights as the heroic gurlz battle one another for the best boats / best seats. Hair pulling and mud wrestling abounds!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 24, 2017 09:34 PM (pNxlR)
John Wick 2 did it. Tiny female assassin tries to slice John Wick and he throws her across a room, like what would happen in real life. Sicario had the tough female protagonist punch Josh Brolin's CIA paramilitary guy..and he folds her into a knot without even slapping her.
Posted by: UGAdawg at July 24, 2017 09:46 PM (HL3BI)
We just didn't want the characters we really love and have a lot of history with suddenly being arbitrarily changed for obvious, totally un-subtle "virtue signalling" decisions.
"You WILL have this new female Thor".
well, F you, we will not pay for it, doucheweasels.
Posted by: Jefe at July 24, 2017 10:20 PM (TuRs5)
Posted by: David at July 24, 2017 10:33 PM (Jrxde)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 24, 2017 10:49 PM (Ndje9)
Copyright law is kinda funny that way. Characters like Spider-Woman and Supergirl were created for the same reason.
One example where a company failed to create an opposite-sex version of a character and subsequently had that version of the name stolen right out from under them... DC had Wonder Woman, and opted not to create a Wonder Man. So, Marvel made a shitty character named Wonder Man.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 24, 2017 11:13 PM (3YxFh)
Back when I was a professional comic-book geek, Milestone came out with really cool and original characters who were mostly black and/or other minorities.
Their comics were great! They had really intriguing twists on the basic superhero formula.
Their equivalent of Superman was Icon, an alien who crash-landed on Earth and took on a form similar to the first sentient creature he met. You know, to ensure he'd fit in with the local populace, as a survival mechanism. Well, it just so happened that he crashed in, like, 1800 and was first encountered by a negro slave. So, yeah, he actually had to spend a good deal of time living as a slave, himself, even though he had powers on par with Superman. He was just trying to keep his head down and wait to be rescued by his outer-space government, but he was discovered by a pregnant teenager who convinced him to become a superhero (and she became his sidekick, Rocket). Really cool concept, and really well-written story.
They also had a great team comic called Blood Syndicate. It was about a street gang who all gained superpowers in a freak incident. They started out just continuing to function as a gang, only with superpowers, but they gradually outgrew that and started to become an actual superhero team. Again, unique concept and really well-written.
They also had a teen hero named Static, who ended up getting an animated series called Static Shock. You may remember that. He was similar to Spider-Man, in that he was a young genius with superpowers and he used both of those traits to fight villains who sort of had him outclassed in terms of raw power. Unlike Spider-Man, though, Static's electrical powers were only really effective because of his scientific knowledge. If Peter Parker had been a total dumbass, he'd still be able to dodge bullets and throw a school bus.
You can absolutely make a great, original minority character. Milestone Comics proved that. You don't have to cannibalize existing characters in the name of social justice.
In fact, people like Tony Stark and Bruce Banner and Thor Odinssen. Not just for their powers, but as actual characters. Don't take away who those characters are! This is why those revisions failed; they took away the basic essence of those characters.
That black teen girl version of Iron Man? I don't know anything about her, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that she doesn't have any flaws on par with Tony Stark's, that she suffers from neither alcoholism nor a heart condition. No, I'm sure her only flaw is that she's just too beautiful for this world.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 25, 2017 12:01 AM (3YxFh)
Posted by: Jimmie at July 25, 2017 12:14 AM (2vrtv)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 25, 2017 12:16 AM (3YxFh)
And my fiancée and I saw Spider-Man Homecoming last weekend (it rained, we were bored) and she pointed out that both of Peters love interests were black. Liz, who you'd think is Liz Allen, is a blonde white chick in the comics is black in the movie (with, of course, a white dad and black mom) and end movie reveal that (apparently) Mary Jane Watson, Peters wife in the comics,and a white red head, is also black and sloppy and crude. Is it a rule that all love interests for white characters need to be black ? Black characters are fine, no problem- I like Luke Cage, Black Panther, Blade, Misty Knight etc but do we have now change every familiar character's race ? It smacks of diversity bullshit and over compensating and I'm tired of it.
Posted by: Baboo the Ocelot at July 25, 2017 12:39 AM (xuiV/)
Bond is an agent in the 00 program. There are other 00 agents besides him! There's no reason you couldn't make a black 002 or a female 009 and have them both be seductive badasses in their own right.
Make some James Bond spinoffs featuring other 00 agents! I'm sure they'd be successful. You don't have to take away James Bond to make it work.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 25, 2017 12:50 AM (3YxFh)
If they wanted a female Time Lord lead show , they should have just done so without co-opting The Doctor.
Posted by: arePea at July 25, 2017 01:39 AM (zA87Q)
Posted by: George LeS at July 25, 2017 10:31 AM (+TcCF)
Posted by: Former MSM journalist, active Moron at July 25, 2017 10:33 AM (fJuD+)
CIA has its own 00-type program and she's an American. To make her
different than the James Bond character. What an idea."
The character of Jinx played by Halle Berry (essentially a female NSA "00") was intended to get a spin off series.
Posted by: LordAzrael at July 25, 2017 11:04 AM (sQAlD)
Imagine if Snoopy in Peanuts was changed to an Irish Wolfhound.
Posted by: grayswindir at July 25, 2017 11:27 AM (NmR1a)
Posted by: Laverne Cox's Agent at July 25, 2017 11:31 AM (wFZ+6)
have a fight before realizing they're actually working against the same
enemy, albeit from two different angles.
In a sense, the Bond franchise has already done this. That's pretty close to the plot of The Spy Who Loved Me. I hear that was a pretty popular movie. It's not too far off of the plot of Tomorrow Never Dies, for that matter. That movie did pretty well, too.
Posted by: Dodd at July 25, 2017 12:00 PM (W2XmH)
Post Peel years took a different tack, went with female leads who weren't actresses first and way more comedic effects.
I still think of Steele when i saw that bowler
Posted by: arePea at July 25, 2017 09:14 PM (zA87Q)
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Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)