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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 07-15-2017 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

The Contender

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I don't plan on doing this very often, but I struggled through this movie over the course of a week and just simply cannot get past how bad it is.

So, I'm dedicating this week to tearing apart The Contender, the 2000 movie about a female candidate to fill an empty Vice Presidential post in the middle of a Democratic administration.

And yes, it's bad. I mean, really, really bad.

Assumptions

This film is based on so many poor assumptions about how politics works in the United States that it feels like it was written by a foreigner who only knew anything about American politics through some poorly translated editorials from The New York Times.

Let's start at the beginning. The movie doesn't say explicitly, but I'm pretty sure it takes place in 2006. The president (played by Jeff Bridges) says that he's six and a half years into his presidency and the candidate (played by Joan Allen) voted for Clinton's impeachment in the House before she switched parties to win her Senate seat from Ohio (her Senate term ends in about two years). So, the currently sitting VPOTUS dies somewhere between June and August of 2006. You know what else would be beginning right about that time? That's right, both major parties would be beginning their primary seasons. You know what's never mentioned?

That's right, one and a half years before a presidential election where both parties would be looking for new candidates, no one ever mentions the primary. Not once.

So, the Democratic president, who is trying to get a Vice President through a Republican controlled House one and a half years before a general election. That's the basic concept.
Does this movie sound ridiculously stupid yet? Because we're just getting started.

Don't think it can get worse? Pause while I laugh at you

Alright, so we're at the beginning of primary season that no one currently in government seems to have any idea of. If you were a sitting president in this situation, what would you do?

Me? I'd keep the Vice Presidency open for the rest of the term. It's not a fight worth having, the VP doesn't do much of anything, and we've survived a bunch of times without a VP. "The people are worried? Who cares? I've got an administration to run."

Others might say, "Well, we need someone there for whatever reasons." Fine. If you absolutely need to get someone in that post what do you do? The president in this movie is pretty much trying to decide the results of the Democratic primary with his pick. A smart president would have chosen an old party loyalist who would promise to not run for the presidency in the next election. A retired governor who the other party likes. Easy little confirmation leads to nothing vice presidency which leads to a pretty much completely unchanged primary race.

But who does this president choose? A young female Senator (who's totally not Hillary Clinton, guys). Oh yes, you bet that that's the president telling his party who's going to be the nominee in 2008. If the president wants to make that preference known, then great, he can. My question then becomes, "Why on earth would he let a Republican House have any say in that?" He's trying to forge the future of his party and he's giving the other party a say?


Wait? You think the stupid stops there? Let me catch my breath from my continued laughing

The sordid bit is about how the senator and putative Vice President was supposedly in a gang bang in college. This begins to get into how dramatically inert the movie is, but let's deal with the political idiocy first. The senator refuses to answer any questions on the matter, insisting that it's private and has no bearing on how good she'll be in the office (I wonder what she would say of Donald Trump?). Her point is that it would be fine if this came out about a man but women are held to separate standards.

These words were written by the screenwriters immediately after Bill Clinton, a man, got impeached for actions that stemmed from private sexual dealings (the movie's explanation of the senator's vote for impeaching Clinton is silly. Something about adultery without a mention of perjury). I mean, it's not like no sex scandals ever took down up and coming male politicians ever. Ugh…

Before I move on, the dramatic bit. The entire movie is the main character of the film refusing to defend herself. She's passive in the face of opposition. How on earth is that dramatically interesting? It's not, by the way.


I see you get this now. Yes, let's show some more dumb.

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Then the details begin to get incredibly stupid as well.

The ugly Republican congressman played by Gary Oldman says early to the committee privately that he's doing this to save the US from liberalism.

Let me dispel one notion right here: The Republican opposition is not meant to be seen as a pushover fake opposition in any way shape or form. Gary Oldman is portrayed as very shrewd and dedicated to taking out Joan Allen as potential VP. He has a personal motive (the President heavily implies that Oldman was the Republican nominee for president against him at some point), and he's dead set on putting someone else in the Vice-Presidency.

So, anyway, back to saving American from liberalism (an almost exact quote, by the way). It seems like a reasonable thing for a Republican member of the House with a say on the composition of the Democratic administration to say. It's never pursued. Instead they go with the sex angle exclusively.

When the senator finally decides to defend herself (with about 20 minutes of the movie left), she lists her positions: strong on crime and defense (she'd go nowhere in today's Democratic Party, but it's the Republicans who've lurched to the extreme…*eyeroll*), pro-choice (expected from a female Democrat), and wants to take all guns out of all homes in America.

Wait…what?!?!?

Yes, she actually says that. Here's the direct quote: "I stand for seeing every gun taken out of every home. Period."

How on earth would anyone expect a Republican controlled body to let this woman be second in line for the presidency? The fact that this is never brought up by anyone else as disqualifying her for the position is flabbergasting.

Well, it's flabbergasting until you realize what The Contender actually is compared to what it wants to be.


Wish-Fulfillment

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Yeah, it's pure fantasy. It's hold on reality is tenuous at best. The equivalent from the right side would be if I wrote a book where someone in the same position with parties reversed said, "I stand for seeing abortion made illegal in every context ever. Period." Maybe it's what many on the right would like, but a Democratic controlled body would never ever let that person through committee. They'd be figuratively dead at that point.

And this is really my problem with political movies in general. At work, my desk is covered in American paraphernalia including a series of historical American flags, state flags (every state I've lived in), the first collection of presidential PEZ dispensers and almost a dozen books about American history, most particularly presidential biographies. When people who don't know me very well strike up conversation with me they almost always talk about the Netflix show House of Cards as though I've obviously seen the whole thing and love it. I haven't.

I've never seen a second of the show because TV and film that tries to get into the weeds of American politics almost always becomes simple wish fulfillment instead of interesting drama surrounded by an accurate representation of how American politics works. You know why? Because politics is terrible, slow, and full of half-wins. Outside of elections, you're looking at murky processes with labyrinthine rules, and old ugly people. To make it sexy, you have to change a lot more than you normally would. I just end up finding it uninteresting.

The fact the The Contender was considered by some upon its release as some sort of accurate look into how American politics work is depressing because it betrays the fact that way too many "smart" people actually don't understand politics at all. (My boy, Roger Ebert, gave this poorly paced, inscrutably motivated, and incredibly undramatic film 4 stars.)

Also, trust us: When Democratic screenwriters write Democratic elected officials saying that they want to rid the US of all guns, and Democrats everywhere cheer it, it totally doesn't mean that they want to take your guns.


One last thing

This is already a little long, but I want to bring in one final quote from the movie. I think that this quote exemplifies everything that's wrong with the Leftist worldview:

"I may be an atheist...but that does not mean I do not go to church; I do go to church. The church I go to is the one that emancipated the slaves... that gave women the right to vote. It gave us every freedom that we hold dear. My church is this very chapel of democracy that we sit in together..."

Government is her church.

Fuck this movie.


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
War for the Planet of the Apes
The Big Sick

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Metropia

Movies I Saw This Week:

The Contender (Netflix Rating 1/5 | Quality Rating 0/4) "Fuck this movie."

With a Friend Like Harry… (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "A slow burn and effectively creepy little thriller."

The World's End (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "I'm hard-pressed to find a better structured movie that's also so hilarious."

Independence Day: Resurgence (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) Poster Blurb: "Represents almost everything wrong with dramatic structure in modern blockbuster movie making."

Suicide Squad (Netflix Rating 1/5 | Quality Rating 0.5/4) "A complete and total mess without a lick of sense for dramatic structure."

The Legend of Tarzan (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1/4) "Does anyone in Hollywood understand the basic concepts of dramatic structure anymore?!?!"

Macbeth (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) "Ah…that's better. A visually striking and surprisingly thoughtful adaptation of That Scottish Play."


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1 Mrs. Es says she will see Minions the 3rd tomorrow. While I'm at work.

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2017 07:41 PM (zLDYs)

2 I don't plan on doing this very often, but I struggled through this movie over the course of a week and just simply cannot get past how bad it is.

Didn't the "Joan Allen" on the cover give you enough of a warning? She tends to specialize in the most awful sorts of stupid movies.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 07:42 PM (rZ+mb)

3 I'll give you one guess why I watched Suicide Squad and The Legend of Tarzan.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 07:43 PM (IDPbH)

4 At least tell me Gary Oldman nailed his role.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 07:43 PM (IDPbH)

5 You want a good movie? Watch The Accountant. Worth seeing twice.

Posted by: pat at July 15, 2017 07:44 PM (4MSOz)

6 3 I'll give you one guess why I watched Suicide Squad and The Legend of Tarzan.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 07:43 PM (IDPbH)

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Shirtless men?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:44 PM (Jj43a)

7 (My boy, Roger Ebert, gave this poorly paced, inscrutably motivated, and incredibly undramatic film 4 stars.)




Roger thought it was so good his jaw hit the ground

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 07:44 PM (auHtY)

8 Never heard of The Contender until now...

Wish I never heard of it.

Posted by: Texas at July 15, 2017 07:44 PM (s5Kql)

9 I watched The Day After last night.

Dunno what to watch tonight.

Maybe Tombstone.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 07:46 PM (s5Kql)

10 The World's End (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "I'm hard-pressed to find a better structured movie that's also so hilarious."

Didn't care for this one. Primarily, I think, because Simon Pegg's character was really kind of revolting.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 07:46 PM (oVJmc)

11 4 At least tell me Gary Oldman nailed his role.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 07:43 PM (IDPbH)

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Ugly bitter congressman?

Yup. He did good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:46 PM (Jj43a)

12 Yeesh. Way to take one for the team. Sounds as bad as The Life of David Gale.

In happier news, I am watching MST 3k. First Season, Project Moonbase.

Whilst drinking, of course...Old Aggie, supposedly the first beer brewed in Fort Collins in the olden times. New Belgium got the recipe, and, as is their wont, kicked ass with it. A great summer lager.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 15, 2017 07:47 PM (I8zsv)

13 You want a good movie? Watch The Accountant. Worth seeing twice.

Posted by: pat at July 15, 2017 07:44 PM (4MSOz)


I thought that movie blew chunks. I wish I could give you my viewing of it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 07:47 PM (rZ+mb)

14 10 The World's End (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "I'm hard-pressed to find a better structured movie that's also so hilarious."

Didn't care for this one. Primarily, I think, because Simon Pegg's character was really kind of revolting.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 07:46 PM (oVJmc)

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He redeems himself, though.

He walks into a bar full of meat heads and orders water with confidence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:47 PM (Jj43a)

15 The Contender sounds like liberal political pron or a conservative political dystopia film.

/future move threads? Sweet sixteen directors play offs! Kubrick! Spielberg! Scocese! Hitchcock! etc! Who will be in the elite eight? The final four! It will be weeks of arguing!!!

Posted by: shibumi at July 15, 2017 07:47 PM (aT+Bx)

16 Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:44 PM (Jj43a)

Yep , looking for gainzzz tips.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 07:47 PM (IDPbH)

17 Roger thought it was so good his jaw hit the ground
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 07:44 PM (auHtY)

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ISWYDT

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 07:47 PM (s5Kql)

18 16 Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:44 PM (Jj43a)

Yep , looking for gainzzz tips.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 07:47 PM (IDPbH)

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Lol

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:48 PM (Jj43a)

19 Spiderman was entertaining when they weren't hitting us over the head with how PC they were. Newton was fantastic.

Posted by: NJRob at July 15, 2017 07:48 PM (wkP6G)

20 War for the Planet of the Apes




Is this the one were Severn Darden leads the humans to attack Ape City but Roddy McDowell wins in the end?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 07:48 PM (auHtY)

21 "I'll give you one guess why I watched Suicide Squad and The Legend of Tarzan. ""

Margot Robbie is starring as Tonya Harding in I, Tonya. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that.

She has a great small role in The Big Short where she explains credit derivatives to the audience while in a bubble path.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 07:49 PM (pV/54)

22 Keaton* not Newton. F autocorrect

Posted by: NJRob at July 15, 2017 07:50 PM (wkP6G)

23 Severn Darden
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I glanced and read that as "Seven Dwarfs."

Posted by: shibumi at July 15, 2017 07:50 PM (aT+Bx)

24 When people who don't know me very well strike up conversation with me they almost always talk about the Netflix show House of Cards as though I've obviously seen the whole thing and love it. I haven't.

++++

Have you seen the earlier British version? I highly recommend it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098825/

It was a mini-series. Much shorter, only 4 episodes. Very much worth your time.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 15, 2017 07:51 PM (pvjTE)

25 TJM, I just want to let you know how much I look forward to these movie threads every weekend.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 15, 2017 07:51 PM (/o9Qk)

26 Understood, OK, we got this.

Posted by: Dick Durbin Hodgenson's spotter at July 15, 2017 07:51 PM (5wSNN)

27 Sam Elliott is in The Contender. The man is in Frogs so there's that.

Posted by: The Dude at July 15, 2017 07:51 PM (bc2Lc)

28 Margot Robbie is starring as Tonya Harding in I, Tonya. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 07:49 PM (pV/54)


Does the movie including covering Harding's sex tape?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 07:52 PM (rZ+mb)

29 24
Have you seen the earlier British version? I highly recommend it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098825/

It was a mini-series. Much shorter, only 4 episodes. Very much worth your time.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 15, 2017 07:51 PM (pvjTE)

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I've thought about it.

I'm less weird about British politics because I don't understand it nearly as well as American politics.

I should just add it to my queue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:52 PM (Jj43a)

30 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 07:47 PM (rZ+mb)

I don't know what Affleck was basing his acting character on but from my experience, it wasn't an autistic person. It was so off putting I had to watch it in bits. He sounded like he was doing a bad audition , reading lines for the first time. And whatsherface was at her most unattractive that I've seen.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 07:53 PM (IDPbH)

31 Yeah,now that you reminded me I remember when that piece of shit came out.

Posted by: steevy at July 15, 2017 07:53 PM (rmVvL)

32 25 TJM, I just want to let you know how much I look forward to these movie threads every weekend.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 15, 2017 07:51 PM (/o9Qk)

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I just hope to entertain.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:53 PM (Jj43a)

33 Only new movie I want to see and have a chance to see is Dunkirk

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 07:54 PM (9g/6M)

34 I think The Contender is the movie Oldman was pissed about when it came out because he's conservative(ish) and didn't think the movie was edited well and pushed the film even more into the lib train wreck it became.

Posted by: Dang at July 15, 2017 07:54 PM (8b+oT)

35 Writer/director Lurie on The Contender:

"The film is about the DNA of greatness. It's about what truly makes great people. Characters like Laine [ Joan Allen ] only come around once every 30 or 40 years. It's just not in her character to respond to the allegations."

Like Hillary, she shouldn't have to respond to allegations.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 07:54 PM (QGoUX)

36 31 Yeah,now that you reminded me I remember when that piece of shit came out.
Posted by: steevy at July 15, 2017 07:53 PM (rmVvL)

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I think I added it to my queue originally purely because I remembered seeing the trailer from forever ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:55 PM (Jj43a)

37 My favorite bad movie is on Comet TV this month, Soylent Green. But I haven't seen it played yet, I watched it when came out in the theatres.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 15, 2017 07:55 PM (6Ll1u)

38 People don't go to political movies, whether they are left-wing or right-wing. I watch a movie to be entertained or to learn something about the general human condition (eg, Ingmar Bergman's films).

I don't watch a movie so I can be lectured at. I suspect the failure of every anti Iraq War movie ever means that most people don't want to be lectured at either. But of course those movies (like The Contender) aren't made to be profitable, they're virtue signaling.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 15, 2017 07:55 PM (MZcWR)

39 As far as dramatic structure, it's all "save the cat", even if it doesn't really fit.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 07:56 PM (17QyB)

40
I'll second the recommendation to watch the original British version of House of Cards. It was very good. F U was a nasty bastard....and yet strangely charming.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at July 15, 2017 07:56 PM (tDTdL)

41 35
Like Hillary, she shouldn't have to respond to allegations.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 07:54 PM (QGoUX)

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Principle is the only important thing for politicians.... Until those principles are conservative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:56 PM (Jj43a)

42 I liked Baby Driver. Good twist of a caper flick.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 07:57 PM (pV/54)

43 Loved the book "The Revenant." Tried to watch the movie last night. Fuck THAT movie.

Quit after 30 minutes of numerous inventions not in the novel, including "Native American good with mystical powers (including the main character having an Indian son) because no idiot white dude would have survived on his own grit" hitting you over the head over-and-over.

Lost respect for the author not maintaining creative control and selling his soul, allowing them to butcher a great story.

Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2017 07:57 PM (ZcAbN)

44 And whatsherface was at her most unattractive that I've seen.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 07:53 PM (IDPbH)


I couldn't even remember who you were talking about. Now, it's all coming back to me ... thanks ...

Anna Kendrick. She was her mousey self. She has looked semi cute in a couple of movies, but she's really not.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 07:57 PM (rZ+mb)

45 >>>Metropia

I refuse to watch any Vincent Gallo movie that does not include a Chloe Sevigny blowjob.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 15, 2017 07:57 PM (pvjTE)

46 I Don't Feel At Home In This World Anymore is one of the best movies I've seen in over a year. And I usually watch a movie every day. Netflix original. Dark humor and very quirky.

Posted by: Dang at July 15, 2017 07:57 PM (8b+oT)

47 The only movie I can think of that was absolutely truthful about American politicians, and which is also one of my favorite movies, was the 1962 "Manchurian Candidate", by John Frankenheimer. Saw it again the other day, it stands up now just as well as over.

It also showed me that even though he spent a lot of his career cheesing around, Frank Sinatra truly was a damned fine actor when he wanted to be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 07:58 PM (V2Yro)

48 Margot Robbie is starring as Tonya Harding in I, Tonya. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that.

She has a great small role in The Big Short where she explains credit derivatives to the audience while in a bubble path.

Is there a baseball bat sticking out of the water ?

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 07:58 PM (ibGaJ)

49 "I don't watch a movie so I can be lectured at. I suspect the failure of every anti Iraq War movie ever means that most people don't want to be lectured at either."

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Oh yeah, I just loves to go to the movie to be lectured at.

Especially by those that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 07:58 PM (s5Kql)

50
Margot Robbie is starring as Tonya Harding in I, Tonya. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that.


It's the role Amy Schumer was born to play.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 07:59 PM (oVJmc)

51 Loved the book "The Revenant." Tried to watch the movie last night. Fuck THAT movie.

Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2017 07:57 PM (ZcAbN)


LOL. You don't like movies about trees?

That whole movie was like the scene from Semi-Tough where Shake is looking at Barbara Jane's safari photos - "You took great photos of trees."

BTW, Semi-Tough was one of the best movies, ever. A classic. And guess who's in it ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 07:59 PM (rZ+mb)

52 37 My favorite bad movie is on Comet TV this month, Soylent Green. But I haven't seen it played yet, I watched it when came out in the theatres.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 15, 2017 07:55 PM (6Ll1u)
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Soylent Green BAD? It is a work of staggering genius.

I loved the use of scoop crowd dispersion vehicles (basically dump trucks that presumably "repurpose" the bodies collected).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 08:00 PM (QGoUX)

53 Agree about the Revenant, the re-writers screwed the whole thing up.

And the crying shame of it was that the TRUE story was an incredible, moving, story with a remarkable lesson about forgiveness. Why did they think they had to change it??

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:00 PM (V2Yro)

54 Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2017 07:57 PM (ZcAbN)

Watch Man in the Wilderness with Richard Harris. Same story . And it was awesome.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:00 PM (IDPbH)

55 One day me and my friends went to the Planet of the Apes marathon, for 10 hrs. They were good about letting you out and back in to get something to eat.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 15, 2017 08:00 PM (6Ll1u)

56 @37 watching Soylent Green on Comet TV right now.

In 1973 they were playing Asteroids. And worried about the greenhouse effect.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 08:01 PM (jHrzU)

57 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 08:00 PM (QGoUX)

Ah what would you know. You're just a piece of furniture.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:02 PM (IDPbH)

58 And the crying shame of it was that the TRUE story was an incredible, moving, story with a remarkable lesson about forgiveness. Why did they think they had to change it??

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:00 PM (V2Yro)


They made a true masterpiece of boredom.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:02 PM (rZ+mb)

59 52 Soylent Green BAD? It is a work of staggering genius.

I loved the use of scoop crowd dispersion vehicles (basically dump trucks that presumably "repurpose" the bodies collected).
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 08:00 PM (QGoUX)

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I may not call it genius, but Soylent Green is definitely one of the best dystopian sci fi movies of the 70s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:02 PM (Jj43a)

60 One day me and my friends went to the Planet of the Apes marathon, for 10 hrs. They were good about letting you out and back in to get something to eat.

Was there a sale on bananas ?

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:03 PM (ibGaJ)

61 Agree about the Revenant, the re-writers screwed the whole thing up.

And the crying shame of it was that the TRUE story was an incredible, moving, story with a remarkable lesson about forgiveness. Why did they think they had to change it??
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:00 PM (V2Yro)

Yes. What I know of Hugh Glass is that he pretty much just wanted his rifle back.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 15, 2017 08:03 PM (I8zsv)

62 I vaguely remember seeing the promos for this and thinking it looked like garbage. Guess my impression was correct.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 15, 2017 08:03 PM (0mRoj)

63 Gattaca is my favorite dystopia movie.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:04 PM (IDPbH)

64
Democrat: Folksy
Republican: Stupid

Democrat: Passionate
Republican: Fanatical

Democrat: Sophisticated
Republican: Snob

Democrat: Down-to-earth
Republican: Crude

Democrat: Man of the world
Republican: Rapist

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 08:04 PM (PBalj)

65 >>>My favorite bad movie is on Comet TV this month, Soylent Green

Comet TV is really growing on me.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 15, 2017 08:05 PM (RrhD2)

66 "Why did they think they had to change it??"

So they could piss on it and therefore make it theirs.

Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 08:05 PM (n1dE4)

67 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 08:04 PM (PBalj)

Nailed it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:05 PM (IDPbH)

68 I remind you all yet again: when you spend your money on Hollywood entertainment, you are giving money to people who want to see you dead. Literally.

Posted by: jbspry at July 15, 2017 08:05 PM (WujO7)

69 George Miller lost Best Director Oscar for his Mad Max Fury Road to whoever it was that directed The Revenant.

On the short list of Greatest Oscar fuck-ups of which there are many.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 08:06 PM (pV/54)

70 One day me and my friends went to the Planet of the
Apes marathon, for 10 hrs. They were good about letting you out and back
in to get something to eat.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
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You can actually see the whole movie, Escape From The Planet Of The Apes in the trailer. So goofy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO0mRivg8Tk

Hollywood is full of complete idiots.

Posted by: Dang at July 15, 2017 08:06 PM (8b+oT)

71 The Big Suck

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2017 08:06 PM (IqV8l)

72 My Comet TV is playing The Satan Bug now, where are you? Maybe that means that it will play Soylent Green here 2-3 hrs from now.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 15, 2017 08:07 PM (6Ll1u)

73 70 -----
You can actually see the whole movie, Escape From The Planet Of The Apes in the trailer. So goofy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO0mRivg8Tk

Hollywood is full of complete idiots.
Posted by: Dang at July 15, 2017 08:06 PM (8b+oT)

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Conquest is probably the best of the original five, in my opinion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:07 PM (Jj43a)

74 I remind you all yet again: when you spend your money on Hollywood entertainment, you are giving money to people who want to see you dead. Literally.

Then why do they keep making sequels ?

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:08 PM (ibGaJ)

75 @72 East Coast. I am watching it on the app on Roku, not on cable.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 08:09 PM (jHrzU)

76 Then why do they keep making sequels ?

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:08 PM (ibGaJ)


Because they want to torture you to death.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:09 PM (rZ+mb)

77 My time is too short watching bad or political "in-yo-face" movies, that one with Tim Robbins being #1 example.

Fassbender's Macbeth is even dark for MacBeth..

The local 1910 theater is showing that ape movie, I'll skip.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 08:09 PM (pzA2L)

78 Mad Max Fury Road was a very good movie in every aspect but it was a misrepresentation because Mad Max was just an ancillary character.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:10 PM (IDPbH)

79 77
Fassbender's Macbeth is even dark for MacBeth..

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 08:09 PM (pzA2L)

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But it's so pretty!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:10 PM (Jj43a)

80 I don't think many people know that "Soylent Green" has one of the most touching goodbye's to a great film star ever put on film, and I tear up a bit whenever I see it.

This was Edward G. Robinson's last movie, and you may recall there is a long death scene, where he is taken into a room and shown beautiful scenes of the world, while a lovely piece of music, "The Death of Aase" by Edward Grieg plays; and then he dies, peacefully. The scene may seem somewhat out of place for that type of movie, but in fact, Robinson knew that he was dying when that scene was filmed, and he did in fact die 2 weeks after filming wrapped up.

So, that scene of Edward G. Robinson's peaceful death was truly the last scene he was ever in; the end of a 56 year long career. I can't think of any of the other great stars who managed to go out that way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:11 PM (V2Yro)

81 78 Mad Max Fury Road was a very good movie in every aspect but it was a misrepresentation because Mad Max was just an ancillary character.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:10 PM (IDPbH)

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You can say the same thing about The Road Warrior.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:11 PM (Jj43a)

82 Where is everyone? Storming in Houston so I need everyone here to entertain me while I'm stuck inside.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:11 PM (IDPbH)

83 So, that scene of Edward G. Robinson's peaceful death was truly the last scene he was ever in; the end of a 56 year long career. I can't think of any of the other great stars who managed to go out that way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:11 PM (V2Yro)


Vic Morrow?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:12 PM (rZ+mb)

84 "Mad Max was just an ancillary character."

I don't think we saw the same movie.

Max is a reluctant change agent for the Good, like he is in the Mel Gibson ones.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 08:12 PM (pV/54)

85 Gattaca is quite a brilliantly intellectual movie, with a great lesson. THAT is what true sci-fi is meant to be, at least from my POV.

Not many people have seen it because it doesn't have enough 'splosions.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:13 PM (V2Yro)

86 81 78 Mad Max Fury Road was a very good movie in every aspect but it was a misrepresentation because Mad Max was just an ancillary character.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:10 PM (IDPbH)

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You can say the same thing about The Road Warrior.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:11 PM (Jj43a)

Not in my opinion. He was the central character and the reluctant hero.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:13 PM (IDPbH)

87 You know what movie I'd like to see? The Andromeda Strain.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 15, 2017 08:13 PM (6Ll1u)

88 "Vic Morrow?"

Oh, that's cold, that is!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:14 PM (V2Yro)

89 Test

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 08:14 PM (5YBu8)

90 76 Then why do they keep making sequels ?

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:08 PM (ibGaJ)

Because they want to torture you to death.

Those Fookers !

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:14 PM (ibGaJ)

91 I don't think there has ever been a conservative or even ish political film.

All political films are leftist.


Having said that..


I really enjoyed Joan Allen in The Upside of Anger.


Posted by: Kreplach at July 15, 2017 08:14 PM (9A6UB)

92 You can say the same thing about The Road Warrior.

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And the 2nd half of Thunderdome. Tina Turner was also perfect in it.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 08:14 PM (pzA2L)

93 85 Gattaca is quite a brilliantly intellectual movie, with a great lesson. THAT is what true sci-fi is meant to be, at least from my POV.

Not many people have seen it because it doesn't have enough 'splosions.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:13 PM (V2Yro)

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True hard sci-fi is hard to come by in film form because most of the time hard sci-fi tends to be dramatically inert.

Also most screenwriters don't know much about science.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:15 PM (Jj43a)

94 Hey everybody.

Was just at Jeffrey Wells' and he's writing about Tarantino's upcoming Manson movie. (I admit his site is where I learned about it to begin with.) Here's what he wrote, so that you don't have to give him the click:

"The Hateful Family"

I've put quotes around the above headline because it came from Variety critic Owen Gleiberman during a back-and-forth we had this morning about Quentin Tarantino's Manson Family movie. The subject was Gleiberman's 7.15 essay about same - "Quentin Tarantino Does Manson? That's News That Should Thrill Cinema Lovers."

The 12th paragraph gets to the nub of it: "Tarantino wants to tell a story about how the age of free love morphed into something horrific; a transformation that still has disturbing implications today. Will he play it straight or Tarantino-ize it? My instinct (or maybe it's just a hope) is that Tarantino can't reduce the Manson story to another of his concoctions. I mean, he can, of course, but it wouldn't feel right, and it wouldn't be inspiring cinema.

HE opinion: As intriguing as this project sounds, Tarantino is incapable of playing it even semi-straight. He's not a docu-dramatist - he's a creator of alternate Quentinworld fantasies. His last three films have mined the past - Inglourious Basterds, Django Unchained and The Hateful Eight - and each time he's reimagined and re-dialogued history in order to transform his tales into his own brand of '70s exploitation cinema. Why should QT play his cards any differently with the Manson family?

Gleiberman said this morning that location-wise he wants Tarantino to deliver an exact duplicate of everything we know about the Manson geography (Spahn ranch, Haight-Ashbury, etc.) but "make it feel new."

"Alas, Tarantino is not a realist," I replied. "Never has been, never will be. His Paris neighborhood set in Inglorious Basterds looked exactly like that - a phony sound stage realm. And remember that he reimagined an anti-Semitic, Jew-hunting Nazi Colonel as a witty talk-show showoff who loved to giggle at his own jokes. Remember also that in the same film Tarantino gave a French country farmer the name of "Bob."

And yet, I said, "I want Tarantino to deliver an exact duplicate of the Polanski-Tate murder house" = formerly located at 100050 Cielo Drive but demolished in '94. Designed by Robert Byrd in 1942, built in '44 - French country style, peaked roof, red shingles and white trim, stone fireplaces, paned windows, loft above living room, guest house, pool. And occupied by many famous movie folk - Michele Morgan, Lillian Gish, Henry Fonda, George Chakiris, Cary Grant and Dyan Cannon, Samantha Eggar, Olivia Hussey, Trent Reznor, et. al.

As I reported five years ago, the original Byrd house was torn down in '94 and in its place a grotesque, Uday Hussein-styled McMansion was built. The guy who constructed this nouveau-riche Moorish-Mediterranean monstrosity, called Villa Bella, was producer Jeff Franklin (creator of Full House). The original street number was also erased; the address is now 10066 Cielo Drive.


Wells also posted some crime scene photos from 1969 of (apparently) the Sharon Tate home. OMG, incredibly grisly.

(And, the bold formatting was added by me.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2017 08:15 PM (eMKNe)

95 Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 08:12 PM (pV/54)

We saw the same movie. We have a different opinion. They could have made that movie without the mad max character with very few changes.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:15 PM (IDPbH)

96 Interesting that Comet TV app and channel are not in sync.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 08:15 PM (jHrzU)

97 Coupla days ago, Dark Matter, and Killjoy were mentioned on the threads. The trailers are on youtube.

When I checked the prices on Amazon, the blue ray was $45 (USD) about five times what I'll pay. Guess I'll have to wait twenty years for the price to come down.

The grapes were probably sour anyway.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 15, 2017 08:15 PM (m9X4Y)

98 You know what movie I'd like to see? The Andromeda Strain

You sure as f@ck don't want to see the 2000s miniseries remake, featuring the corporation 'Enburton'.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 15, 2017 08:16 PM (6FqZa)

99 Okay, yeah, Soylent Green is a soycheezfest, but Edward G. Robinson is lit like a Rembrandt painting in this scene. He was very good in the role as someone old enough to remember when things were a hell of a lot better.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 08:16 PM (QGoUX)

100 Gattaca is quite a brilliantly intellectual movie, with a great lesson. THAT is what true sci-fi is meant to be, at least from my POV.


Gattca and Contact were out at almost the exact same time. It was amazing to get two good SF movies (not dressed up action or horror movies) within the same year.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 08:17 PM (oVJmc)

101 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2017 08:17 PM (KCxzN)

102 I don't think there has ever been a conservative or even ish political film.

All political films are leftist.


Posted by: Kreplach at July 15, 2017 08:14 PM (9A6UB)


There were a good number of pretty awesome anti-commie movies. And then there are movies like "Sunshine" which is a great movie made by a lunatic lefty ... but it ends up, unintentionally, being an anti-left movie. And there have been some excellent patriotic movies about America and the Founders.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:17 PM (rZ+mb)

103 How about Logans run for "cheesy" in a campy sort of endearing way....

Posted by: .It's me donna at July 15, 2017 08:18 PM (O2RFr)

104 Gattaca is quite a brilliantly intellectual movie, with a great lesson. THAT is what true sci-fi is meant to be, at least from my POV.

Not many people have seen it because it doesn't have enough 'splosions.

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The play on invalid-invalid was clever but when Vincent gives his answer of why he was the better swimmer than his genetically engineered brother was good.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 08:18 PM (pzA2L)

105 Quentin Tarantino Does Manson?

Did they let him in on a conjugal visit

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:18 PM (ibGaJ)

106 Great review, man. Surprised you went without mentioning Sorkinism- unbearable speechifying for liberal causes, at which point the whole of America jumps up and follows enthusiastically, like trained seals.

I would have called the media hagiography of 2016 the truest expression of Sorkinism ever, except the candidate was less lifelike than the animatronic robots at 1970s Disneyworld.

Given the current reaction, I would say Sorkinism in the left has only grown, arguably becoming the only legitimate outlet of leftist thought. If they are convinced that their loss was due to insufficient Celebrity hectoring, it's Trump 2020. If they actually run George Clooney- yow!

Posted by: trev006 at July 15, 2017 08:18 PM (IbaEw)

107 You sure as f@ck don't want to see the 2000s miniseries remake, featuring the corporation 'Enburton'.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo

The name Bushitlerdeathcorp already taken?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 08:18 PM (5YBu8)

108 I really enjoyed Joan Allen in The Upside of Anger.


Posted by: Kreplach at July 15, 2017 08:14 PM (9A6UB)
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That was a good little flick. Somebody described Kevin Costner's friendly doofus of a character as like the neighborhood retriever who smells bacon.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 08:19 PM (QGoUX)

109 I watched The Dressmaker the other night. It closely followed the book for the most part. Kate Winslet was fantastic, but Liam Hemsworth looked a little young for his part. He's so pretty to look at though.

Posted by: no good deed at July 15, 2017 08:19 PM (hsb2w)

110 I'm watching the Dark Matter season one on DVD, which the-store-next-to-Tattered-Cover-on-Colfax was selling.

I'm still trying to figure out if I like not-Firefly for what it is, which is not Firefly.

The characters are getting more likeable, and there's a good bit where they actually complete a job and then it turns out that... they shouldn't have done it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 15, 2017 08:19 PM (6FqZa)

111 How about Logans run for "cheesy" in a campy sort of endearing way....

Posted by: .It's me donna at July 15, 2017 08:18 PM (O2RFr)


Logan's Run was truly awful.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:20 PM (rZ+mb)

112 Gattaca and Contact were out at almost the exact same time. It was amazing to get two good SF movies (not dressed up action or horror movies) within the same year.

Well, one good movie. Contact made full oral contact with a dead goat's balls.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 15, 2017 08:20 PM (6FqZa)

113 These are such good movie reviews and all, but why are all of the Netflix things on the DVD subscription side? Isn't there something on Amazon Prime or Netflix streaming that could make the list? I search these things every week and find only disappointment. (Actually, because of the terrible results that I have had in the past, I didn't bother to search Netflix streaming or Amazon Prime for this week. I just assumed that it would be a disappointment.)

Posted by: goon at July 15, 2017 08:21 PM (EaQ6/)

114 111 Logan's Run was truly awful.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:20 PM (rZ+mb)

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That's wrongthink right there.

Logan's Run is good stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:21 PM (Jj43a)

115 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 15, 2017 08:19 PM (6FqZa)

People always talked about wanting to get Firefly back. I always wanted Farscape back.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:21 PM (IDPbH)

116 Edward G. Robinson is lit like a Rembrandt painting in this scene. He was very good in the role as someone old enough to remember when things were a hell of a lot better.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 08:16 PM (QGoUX)


And then they ate him, accompanied by a white wine.

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:21 PM (ibGaJ)

117 Logan's Run is/was the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars-era Hollywood sci-fi.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2017 08:22 PM (eMKNe)

118 113 These are such good movie reviews and all, but why are all of the Netflix things on the DVD subscription side? Isn't there something on Amazon Prime or Netflix streaming that could make the list? I search these things every week and find only disappointment. (Actually, because of the terrible results that I have had in the past, I didn't bother to search Netflix streaming or Amazon Prime for this week. I just assumed that it would be a disappointment.)
Posted by: goon at July 15, 2017 08:21 PM (EaQ6/)

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It just depends on what I watch each week.

This will, Dolley reactivated our HBO subscription, so I went and watched a few movies available there.

The Macbeth, though, is on Prime.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:23 PM (Jj43a)

119 Logan's Run is/was the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars-era Hollywood sci-fi.

Yo.

Posted by: Forbidden Planet at July 15, 2017 08:23 PM (6FqZa)

120 That's wrongthink right there.

Logan's Run is good stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:21 PM (Jj43a)


You sound like someone who hasn't seen Logan's Run in 30 years.

Watch it again. I dare you.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:23 PM (rZ+mb)

121 Ha! I haaaated The Contender, too?


Wanna experience that level of movie hatred a second time?
See Rod Lurie's "Nothing But the Truth" about a righteous DC reporter who exposes a Valerie Plame type and goes to jail to protect her source.
Made by the same guy as Contender.

You will want to strangle someone when it ends.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 08:23 PM (NOIQH)

122 Eris @ 99- How things used to be----
Robinson was good in Soylent Green. I am at that point in life where I'm talking to young (50-ish) people who can't or won't remember how great America once was. Sad.

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2017 08:23 PM (zLDYs)

123 BTW everyone: I let Jeff Wells know I shared his Tarantino bit here, and gave him the ace.mu.nu addy.

I won't be surprised if he comes over and huffs that he can't believe his pearls are being posted at a "bumblefuck" website. It's cool if he does though, 'cuz then we can have some fun with him. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2017 08:24 PM (eMKNe)

124 I rewatched Alpha Dog this week. Great movie, but a chilling one. Especially if you are aware it is a true story.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0426883/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 15, 2017 08:24 PM (pvjTE)

125 Vic Morrow?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:12 PM (rZ+mb)


OMG, you went there.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 08:24 PM (17QyB)

126 121 Ha! I haaaated The Contender, too?


Wanna experience that level of movie hatred a second time?
See Rod Lurie's "Nothing But the Truth" about a righteous DC reporter who exposes a Valerie Plame type and goes to jail to protect her source.
Made by the same guy as Contender.

You will want to strangle someone when it ends.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 08:23 PM (NOIQH)

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So he saw the reaction to The Contender and decided that he had done absolutely everything right?

Sounds about right.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:25 PM (Jj43a)

127 Did Mel Gibson have even a full page of dialogue in Road Warrior?

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 08:25 PM (pV/54)

128 A guilty pleasure, a movie I should have hated but found oddly compelling, was the movie pi (actually the name was just the greek symbol) I don't know how to describe it without making me sound RENEGADE for even admitting to watching it. This odd man sees numbers and patterns in everything, and they drive him madder and madder, and finally he appears to find some peace by drilling a hole in his head with a power drill, in his bathroom.

All I can say is that after watching that you kind of get a feeling for what it's like to be totally batshit insane. In fact I think it makes you insane and it takes a few days for it to wear off.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:25 PM (V2Yro)

129 We have been watching Dark Matter and Killjoys since the beginning. Good series.

Yes, Dark Matter looks a lot like Firefly trying not to be Firefly, but it is not Firefly.

Both series are a bit uneven, but mostly good.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 08:25 PM (jHrzU)

130 >>People always talked about wanting to get Firefly back. I always wanted Farscape back.



WORD


John Crichton is a better Kirk than the ST reboot w/Chris Pine.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 08:25 PM (NOIQH)

131 That poster of the movie - about eight feet wide - was outside the Kmart at the Gallery Mall in Philadelphia for almost 10 years.

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 08:25 PM (ANIFC)

132 I watched Funny Girl off and on last night as I channel surfed. I have to admit that Barbara Streisand is one of those girls that are ugly and pretty at the same time. Her imperfections are perfect.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:26 PM (IDPbH)

133 120 That's wrongthink right there.

Logan's Run is good stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:21 PM (Jj43a)

You sound like someone who hasn't seen Logan's Run in 30 years.

Watch it again. I dare you.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:23 PM (rZ+mb)

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I watched it a year or two ago.

I own the Blu Ray.

It's good stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:26 PM (Jj43a)

134
You know what movie I'd like to see? The Andromeda Strain

You sure as f@ck don't want to see the 2000s miniseries remake, featuring the corporation 'Enburton'.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 15, 2017 08:16 PM


I've been hesitant to watch the 2016 version of The Magnificent Seven because of this description on the cable menu:

"Desperate townspeople hire seven mercenaries to battle a greedy industrialist and his ruthless henchmen in the Old West"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2017 08:26 PM (IqV8l)

135 And then they ate him, accompanied by a white wine.
Posted by: JT

If one were to eat a Jewish actor, would he have to be accompanied by Manischewitz?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 08:26 PM (5YBu8)

136 117
Logan's Run is/was the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars-era Hollywood sci-fi.

Posted by: qdpsteve


Yeah, no.

Posted by: 2001 at July 15, 2017 08:26 PM (LAe3v)

137 I rewatched Alpha Dog this week. Great movie, but a chilling one. Especially if you are aware it is a true story.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0426883/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 15, 2017 08:24 PM (pvjTE)


Yeah, it was an interesting movie. Such scum they were. It sort of had the feel of a remake of River's Edge (also based on a true story). Or Bully.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:26 PM (rZ+mb)

138 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 15, 2017 08:19 PM (6FqZa)

People always talked about wanting to get Firefly back. I always wanted Farscape back.

I always wanted the Far Side back.

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:26 PM (ibGaJ)

139 Watching Soyent Green now, this is a great movie

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 08:27 PM (9g/6M)

140 "Did Mel Gibson have even a full page of dialogue in Road Warrior?"

WHO SAID MEL GIBSON WAS THE STAR OF ROAD WARRIOR???

Posted by: Lord Humongous at July 15, 2017 08:27 PM (V2Yro)

141 128 A guilty pleasure, a movie I should have hated but found oddly compelling, was the movie pi (actually the name was just the greek symbol) I don't know how to describe it without making me sound RENEGADE for even admitting to watching it. This odd man sees numbers and patterns in everything, and they drive him madder and madder, and finally he appears to find some peace by drilling a hole in his head with a power drill, in his bathroom.

All I can say is that after watching that you kind of get a feeling for what it's like to be totally batshit insane. In fact I think it makes you insane and it takes a few days for it to wear off.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:25 PM (V2Yro)

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Darren Arronofsky's first film.

Made with no money and is trippy fun.

A double feature with Following, Christopher Nolan's first movie, would probably be a fun evening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:27 PM (Jj43a)

142 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2017 08:26 PM (IqV8l)

It's good. I was hesitant because I didn't know how they would make Denzel believable as the leader of the group considering the time period they were in. The script writers did an excellent job.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:27 PM (IDPbH)

143 112 Gattaca and Contact were out at almost the exact same time. It was amazing to get two good SF movies (not dressed up action or horror movies) within the same year.

Well, one good movie. Contact made full oral contact with a dead goat's balls.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 15, 2017 08:20 PM (6FqZa)


Yeah, I thought Contact was pretentious, overrated tripe, myself.

Gattaca had a better premise and did more with it.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 08:28 PM (17QyB)

144 Was that Russian lawyer with "information" about Hillary allowed into the country, under special circumstances, prior to finding out who her opponent would be? Did the Obama administration really have that much grey-matter that they decided that they could f* anyone that opposed her, with a simple offer of information. Probably. I think I'll just roll off down to the dark end of the corridor now, and press my call button by the bed, and count how long it takes some Haitian to come and snatch it out of my hand. We had better do something before we can't walk any more.

Posted by: goon at July 15, 2017 08:28 PM (EaQ6/)

145 I seem to recall that Gary Oldman was very frustrated making The Contender because the director wouldn't allow him to make his character human/likeable/well-rounded in any way. He was told to amp up the mustache-twirling Southern Republican eeeeevil to "11".

Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 08:28 PM (NOIQH)

146

Wanna try a shit movie? See "The Purge" with Ethan Hawke from 2016, I think.

Posted by: otho at July 15, 2017 08:28 PM (lmIoG)

147 132
I watched Funny Girl off and on last night as I channel surfed. I have
to admit that Barbara Streisand is one of those girls that are ugly and
pretty at the same time. Her imperfections are perfect.

Posted by: Jack Sock


She had an album cover which came out about the time when I became aware of the female figure. She was lying on her side, with her hip cocked. It was....alluring.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2017 08:29 PM (LAe3v)

148 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:25 PM (V2Yro)

Pi was a great movie. I like pretty much all of Aranofsky's movies. He's one of the best writers/directors around.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:29 PM (rZ+mb)

149 You are fabulous. What a post


But all I can think of now is PEZ!!!

Posted by: LASue at July 15, 2017 08:29 PM (Mjus2)

150 140 "Did Mel Gibson have even a full page of dialogue in Road Warrior?"

WHO SAID MEL GIBSON WAS THE STAR OF ROAD WARRIOR???
Posted by: Lord Humongous at July 15, 2017 08:27 PM (V2Yro)

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Hahahaha!!!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:29 PM (Jj43a)

151 This is a truly crapulent print of Soylent Green. Was it filmed on cellulose?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 08:29 PM (QGoUX)

152 Logan's Run is indeed truly awful. It is hard to believe that it and Star Wars are just a year apart.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 08:29 PM (jHrzU)

153 All I can say is that after watching that you kind of get a feeling for what it's like to be totally batshit insane. In fact I think it makes you insane and it takes a few days for it to wear off.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:25 PM (V2Yro)

Mmmm, pi. I like pi.

Posted by: Homer Simpson at July 15, 2017 08:29 PM (AWYXL)

154 Christopher Nolan's first movie

Was that Memento?

Posted by: no good deed at July 15, 2017 08:29 PM (hsb2w)

155 I always associate Edward G Robinson with The Ten Commandments.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 15, 2017 08:30 PM (89T5c)

156 I seem to recall that Gary Oldman was very frustrated making The Contender because the director wouldn't allow him to make his character human/likeable/well-rounded in any way. He was told to amp up the mustache-twirling Southern Republican eeeeevil to "11".

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The director sounded as if he wanted his The Professional role, sans the shotgun.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 08:30 PM (pzA2L)

157 Logan's Run is/was the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars-era Hollywood sci-fi.

It was a very big hit in its timeframe.

Post-2001 until Star Wars, science-fiction was almost exclusively social SF. Planet of the Apes, Soylent Green, Omega Man, Logan's Run.

LR was a very big hit in that era.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 08:30 PM (oVJmc)

158
Hollywood makes movies about ruthless, exploitative corporations screwing little people because Hollywood consists of nothing but ruthless, exploitative corporations screwing little people. Other corporations have enough troubles keeping the lights on.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 08:30 PM (PBalj)

159 Where is everyone? Storming in Houston so I need everyone here to entertain me while I'm stuck inside.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:11 PM (IDPbH)


There's NO business like SHOW business
There's NO business ...

I'd like to help you out more buddy, but my hamstrings are killing me.

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:30 PM (ibGaJ)

160 I love Logan's Run and the lovely Jenny Agutter

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 08:30 PM (9g/6M)

161 Logan's Run Trivia: Most of the indoor scenes were filmed in freshly constructed Hulen Mall, southwest Fort Worth. The iconic ending scene was filmed in the (at that time) new Water Gardens, downtown Fort Worth.

Posted by: Lord Humongous at July 15, 2017 08:30 PM (V2Yro)

162 149 You are fabulous. What a post


But all I can think of now is PEZ!!!
Posted by: LASue at July 15, 2017 08:29 PM (Mjus2)

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Why thank you.

I could have gone further, but I felt like I had written enough about a nearly 20 year old movie no one remembers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:31 PM (Jj43a)

163 154 Christopher Nolan's first movie

Was that Memento?
Posted by: no good deed at July 15, 2017 08:29 PM (hsb2w)

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Memento is number 2.

Following is a tiny little black and white movie he made first.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:32 PM (Jj43a)

164 Logan's Run is indeed truly awful.

A naked Jenny Agutter is all I'm saying.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2017 08:32 PM (LAe3v)

165 >>So he saw the reaction to The Contender and decided that he had done absolutely everything right?


Sweet, beautiful Kate Beckinsale plays the reporter. You will want to strangle her at the end of the movie.

I honestly wonder if Lurie pretends to honor these Lefty characters but secretly want you to hate them (i.e. so far behind enemy lines he's got progressives fooled). Except I'm retty sure he worked in DC and really believes this stuff.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 08:33 PM (NOIQH)

166 80 I don't think many people know that "Soylent Green" has one of the most touching goodbye's to a great film star ever put on film, and I tear up a bit whenever I see it.

This was Edward G. Robinson's last movie, and you may recall there is a long death scene, where he is taken into a room and shown beautiful scenes of the world, while a lovely piece of music, "The Death of Aase" by Edward Grieg plays; and then he dies, peacefully. The scene may seem somewhat out of place for that type of movie, but in fact, Robinson knew that he was dying when that scene was filmed, and he did in fact die 2 weeks after filming wrapped up.

So, that scene of Edward G. Robinson's peaceful death was truly the last scene he was ever in; the end of a 56 year long career. I can't think of any of the other great stars who managed to go out that way.
Posted by: Tom Servo



I believe Oliver Reed's final scene in any movie was in Gladiator. His characters death was not as serene as Robinson's though. In fact Reed's death wasnt' all that serene either. Heartattack after binge drinking in Malta.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 08:34 PM (GbzYN)

167
Tonight I'll be watching DRONE starring Sean Been.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 08:34 PM (IDvUO)

168 So, that scene of Edward G. Robinson's peaceful death was truly the last scene he was ever in; the end of a 56 year long career. I can't think of any of the other great stars who managed to go out that way.

John Wayne, the Shootist. Not a peaceful death, but a purposeful one.



Posted by: Fox2! at July 15, 2017 08:34 PM (brIR5)

169 A naked Jenny Agutter is all I'm saying.
Posted by: pep

Get your mind out of Agutter, mister.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 08:34 PM (5YBu8)

170
I always associate Edward G Robinson with The Ten Commandments.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 15, 2017 08:30 PM


https://youtu.be/D0Qcv3YV4aA

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2017 08:34 PM (IqV8l)

171 Following is a tiny little black and white movie he made first.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:32 PM (Jj43a)


I'd never heard of that. I'll have to check it out. Memento was one of the most original, clever movies ever made.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:34 PM (rZ+mb)

172 166
I believe Oliver Reed's final scene in any movie was in Gladiator. His characters death was not as serene as Robinson's though. In fact Reed's death wasnt' all that serene either. Heartattack after binge drinking in Malta.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 08:34 PM (GbzYN)

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He died mid production.

His final scene is a digital composite.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:34 PM (Jj43a)

173

Barbara Streisand is mortadella?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 08:35 PM (IDvUO)

174 And then they ate him, accompanied by a white wine.
Posted by: JT

If one were to eat a Jewish actor, would he have to be accompanied by Manischewitz?

I ain't touchin' that one with a ten foot matzo ball.

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:35 PM (ibGaJ)

175 A naked Jenny Agutter is all I'm saying.

I thought they lost that scene?

Posted by: Protein from the Sea! at July 15, 2017 08:35 PM (brIR5)

176 168
John Wayne, the Shootist. Not a peaceful death, but a purposeful one.



Posted by: Fox2! at July 15, 2017 08:34 PM (brIR5)

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If there was one way for John Wayne to go out in his final role, it was how he went out in The Shootist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:35 PM (Jj43a)

177 @164 True dat.

Problem with Comet TV is that they edit the crap out of the movies. Watched Flash Gordon the other night (truly authentic 1980s cheese!) and at commercial breaks it had some huge 30 sec to perhaps minutes gaps during the transitions - they were in one scene, exiting/escaping, then after the commercial, they were well into the next scene.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 08:36 PM (jHrzU)

178 Cliff Calvin Trivia:

Omar Sharif was world ranked in what organized activity?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:36 PM (IDPbH)

179 The JamesMadison, have you seen "Miss Sloane" yet?
It's bad like The Contender, too.

The actress made it out to be some sort of rah-rah women in DC are just as tough as men movie, but her character is a more like a sociopath. Kinda concerned me if this is what feminism in 2017 is supposed to look like

Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 08:37 PM (NOIQH)

180 Cliff Calvin Trivia:

Omar Sharif was world ranked in what organized activity?

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Bridge and had a computer bridge series with his name.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 08:37 PM (pzA2L)

181 132
I watched Funny Girl off and on last night as I channel surfed. I have
to admit that Barbara Streisand is one of those girls that are ugly and
pretty at the same time. Her imperfections are perfect.

Posted by: Jack Sock



I put Ellen Barkin in that category too. In The Big Easy, she was sexy as hell.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 08:37 PM (GbzYN)

182 176 168
John Wayne, the Shootist. Not a peaceful death, but a purposeful one.



Posted by: Fox2! at July 15, 2017 08:34 PM (brIR5)

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If there was one way for John Wayne to go out in his final role, it was how he went out in The Shootist.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:35 PM (Jj43a)

He should have shot Opie.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:37 PM (IDPbH)

183 Soyent Green takes place during a global warming period and at a time "experts" thought the world was going under ice.

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 08:37 PM (9g/6M)

184
Problem with Comet TV is that they edit the crap out of the movies.

Commercial breaks every 8 minutes. Terrible. Unwatchable.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 08:38 PM (IDvUO)

185 I caught an old (1940's) movie of Edgar G's called "Our Vines Have Tender Grapes" in which he plays a Norwegian farmer in rural Wisconsin. It's just a nice, gentle tale of small-town life.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 08:38 PM (QGoUX)

186 John Crichton is a better Kirk than the ST reboot w/Chris Pine.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 08:25 PM (NOIQH)

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*nods*

Oh yeah.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 08:38 PM (s5Kql)

187 I always associate Edward G Robinson with The Ten Commandments.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 15, 2017 08:30 PM


Double Indemnity.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 08:38 PM (RO6/m)

188 A naked Jenny Agutter is all I'm saying.

I thought they lost that scene?

Posted by: Protein from the Sea! at July 15, 2017 08:35 PM (brIR5)


The only naked Jenny Agutter scene I remember was in An American Werewolf in London with the Dr. Pepper guy. She was pretty hot.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:38 PM (rZ+mb)

189 179 The JamesMadison, have you seen "Miss Sloane" yet?
It's bad like The Contender, too.

The actress made it out to be some sort of rah-rah women in DC are just as tough as men movie, but her character is a more like a sociopath. Kinda concerned me if this is what feminism in 2017 is supposed to look like
Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 08:37 PM (NOIQH)

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I have to be picky in my selections for self torture.

I haven't picked that one up yet.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:39 PM (Jj43a)

190 Hadrian- missed you on the Pet Thread.

I'm not watching anything until it shows up in the pawn shop. I bit on Fences, if anyone would like my copy I'll send it to you.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 08:39 PM (fZqx4)

191 If there was one way for John Wayne to go out in his final role, it was how he went out in The Shootist.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:35 PM (Jj43a)

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Amen.

Get teary-eyed every time I watch that movie.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 08:39 PM (s5Kql)

192 John Wayne in The Shootist. Second best movie ever. After The Outlaw Josey Wales.

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2017 08:39 PM (zLDYs)

193 129 We have been watching Dark Matter and Killjoys since the beginning. Good series.

Yes, Dark Matter looks a lot like Firefly trying not to be Firefly, but it is not Firefly.

Both series are a bit uneven, but mostly good.
Posted by: blaster



Yep. Like both series. I'm entertained not that it takes much.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 08:39 PM (GbzYN)

194 Cliff Calvin Trivia:

Omar Sharif was world ranked in what organized activity?



Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:36 PM (IDPbH)


Tent making ?

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:39 PM (ibGaJ)

195
John Chrichton and Aryn Sun were great in Stargate, too.

MUCH better than Richard Anderson.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 08:40 PM (IDvUO)

196 Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 08:37 PM (GbzYN)

Agree. She stars now in the TV series Animal Kingdom ( based on a pretty good Australian movie) . She's aged but still has that sexy look about her.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:40 PM (IDPbH)

197 If you're wondering why I'm here and not dunking myself in the fondue that is "Soylent Green", it's because I always record things on Comet so's I can fast forward through the many, many commercials. I allow myself about a ten-minute delay.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2017 08:40 PM (QGoUX)

198 Hey Ben Had!

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 08:40 PM (s5Kql)

199 The full length version of Logan's Run Jenny and Michael swim in a pond.

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 08:40 PM (9g/6M)

200
What's funny is the makers of Farscape did a horrible job with Defiance.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 08:41 PM (IDvUO)

201 If there was one way for John Wayne to go out in his final role, it was how he went out in The Shootist.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:35 PM (Jj43a)

He should have shot Opie.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:37 PM (IDPbH)

That's why they only let me have one bullet!

Posted by: Barney Fife at July 15, 2017 08:41 PM (ANIFC)

202 The only naked Jenny Agutter scene I remember was in An American Werewolf in London with the Dr. Pepper guy. She was pretty hot.

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I see a trend here with this actress. Note: the double nightmare scene in AAWIL scared the pee out of me.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 08:41 PM (pzA2L)

203 Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 08:39 PM (ibGaJ)

No he fell just outside the rankings for that.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:41 PM (IDPbH)

204 He should have shot Opie.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:37 PM (IDPbH)



Seconded

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 08:41 PM (auHtY)

205 188 The only naked Jenny Agutter scene I remember was in An American Werewolf in London with the Dr. Pepper guy. She was pretty hot.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 15, 2017 08:38 PM (rZ+mb)

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Walkabout

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:41 PM (Jj43a)

206
Dragon Ball Super, anyone?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 08:41 PM (IDvUO)

207 I hate it that I am, almost, compelled to keep Amazon afloat just because I am so tired of watching streaming reruns. I could buy a really nice big bottle of excellent bourbon every month, if I just had an ounce of willpower, for the money that I spend on movies that I half-remember within 20 minutes. So, yeah, I buy the good bourbon anyhow, and I stream their hard-to-find-anything-good crap, and Jeff rubs his hands together and plots his revenge upon the worms that fuel his empire. Our opportunity for direct action is slipping away.

Posted by: goon at July 15, 2017 08:41 PM (EaQ6/)

208 Omar Sharif was world ranked in what organized activity?



Posted by: Jack Sock

I'd say rocking the Casbah, but I know Sharif he don't like it.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 08:42 PM (5YBu8)

209 When I was in HS, I had a Film Arts class, in which we watched "The Walkabout". I still can't believe my teacher got away with that.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2017 08:43 PM (LAe3v)

210
I'd say rocking the Casbah, but I know Sharif he don't like it.

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That and The 13th Warrior.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 08:43 PM (pzA2L)

211 I put Ellen Barkin in that category too.

I loved her in Drop Dead Gorgeous. I think it was her funniest role. I always picture her with a cigarette in her mouth and a beer can in her gauze wrapped hand.

Posted by: no good deed at July 15, 2017 08:43 PM (hsb2w)

212 I'm less weird about British politics because I don't understand it nearly as well as American politics.

I should just add it to my queue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 07:52 PM (Jj43a)


I don't want to say too much, because: spoilers, but the original House of Cards was extended into a trilogy. House of Cards, To Play the King, and Final Cut. So, twelve episodes total. I believe that the American version (which I watched a lot of because my wife wanted to see it, but cannot stand) drew elements from all three of these four-episode stories.

As much as I love Kevin Spacey as an actor, he cannot hold a candle to Ian Richardson in this particular role.

Posted by: HTL at July 15, 2017 08:44 PM (zl60v)

213 "I may be an atheist...but that does not mean I do not go to church; I do go to church. The church I go to is the one that emancipated the slaves... that gave women the right to vote. It gave us every freedom that we hold dear. My church is this very chapel of democracy that we sit in together..."

Good Lord. They actually said that unironically?

There is simply no common ground with people like that.

Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2017 08:44 PM (sdi6R)

214
Ben Had,
Spent the Pet Thread driving back from San Antonio, where Finn was Best of Winners for a point today.

I-10 is such a pain in the ass that we came back on Alt-90 through Seguin, Gonzales, Shiner, Halletsville and Eagle Lake. Not much longer and much more relaxing and scenic a drive.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 08:44 PM (4FTuS)

215 There is a western China 9 Liberty 27 she gets topless,

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 08:44 PM (9g/6M)

216 SMFH- Hey darling. Working on my Anita Baker and Johnny Lang playlist for our next meet. With a little Tina thrown in.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 08:44 PM (fZqx4)

217 I see a trend here with this actress.

Jennifer Connelly is another one that seemed to get naked in every movie.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2017 08:45 PM (LAe3v)

218 200: I liked Defiance. Not nearly as good as Farscape (not much is) but it was alright.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 08:45 PM (GbzYN)

219 Cool beans!

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 08:46 PM (s5Kql)

220 I always picture her with a cigarette in her mouth and a beer can in her gauze wrapped hand.
Posted by: no good deed

I told you I'd move the car if a cripple comes.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 08:46 PM (5YBu8)

221 213 "I may be an atheist...but that does not mean I do not go to church; I do go to church. The church I go to is the one that emancipated the slaves... that gave women the right to vote. It gave us every freedom that we hold dear. My church is this very chapel of democracy that we sit in together..."

Good Lord. They actually said that unironically?

There is simply no common ground with people like that.

Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2017 08:44 PM (sdi6R)

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Yeah.

That and the "no guns" thing happen within about 30 seconds of each other.

But don't think that they want to take your guns and hate your God or anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:46 PM (Jj43a)

222 115 - Farscape was a great. I still miss that series.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 15, 2017 08:46 PM (H5knJ)

223 I-10 is such a pain in the ass that we came back on Alt-90 through Seguin, Gonzales, Shiner, Halletsville and Eagle Lake. Not much longer and much more relaxing and scenic a drive.

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I drive that way to visit the kid in Richmond, I love that drive, straight less traffic (and Buc-ees).

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 08:46 PM (pzA2L)

224 Soyent Green is the vision of the US after socialists take over.

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 08:46 PM (9g/6M)

225
My recommendation for tonight if you're looking:

The Monkey King

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 08:46 PM (IDvUO)

226 Jennifer Connelly is another one that seemed to get naked in every movie.
Posted by: pep


I'm kind of getting bored of it.

Posted by: no heterosexual male ever at July 15, 2017 08:46 PM (6FqZa)

227 "Jennifer Connelly is another one that seemed to get naked in every movie."

Apparently, the Internet has supplied a full list.

http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/name.php/46

Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (n1dE4)

228 Ben Had, that's Anita Baker and kd lang?

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (zLDYs)

229 "The church I go to is the one that emancipated the slaves..."

She's a Republican?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (RZXSp)

230 Omar Sharif was world ranked in what organized activity?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:36 PM (IDPbH)


Without checking, I believe it was bridge, although if you told me it was poker I wouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: HTL at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (zl60v)

231 One neat detail about Fury Road?

The actor playing Immortan Joe is the same actor who played Toecutter in the first movie.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (oVJmc)

232 "188 A naked Jenny Agutter is all I'm saying.
I thought they lost that scene? "

I saw Logan's Run again a couple months ago, on TCM or MGM or one of the movie channels, and yeah, buddy, it had the full nekkid Jenny scene in it!

(you know what was really awful? The Logan's Run TV series that was on for a year or two in 77 - 78.)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (V2Yro)

233 "Logan's Run"?

Saw that with some of my high school buds (we were all in college at the time), and we had all been to a lot of movies together.
1) we all agreed Jennie Agutter was really cute, sexy and hot
2) the movie as a whole stunk

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (S6Pax)

234
Soyent Green is good but has its cheesy 70s moments just like Omega Man did. Chuck watching the movie Woodstock at the beginning of Omega Man must have seemed so hip at the time but so silly now

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 08:48 PM (auHtY)

235 Soylent Green is a malthusian nightmare. 40M living in NYC, not enough food. Greenhouse is just a nuisance in comparison.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 08:48 PM (jHrzU)

236 229 "The church I go to is the one that emancipated the slaves..."

She's a Republican?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (RZXSp)

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Don't you know? Republicans and Democrats switched sides in the 60s. Robert Byrd? Who's that?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:48 PM (Jj43a)

237 The Monkey King

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Which one(s).

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 08:49 PM (pzA2L)

238 Hadrian, Congratulations on the win. We are prepping for the Select AQHA World.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 08:49 PM (fZqx4)

239 You want a bad movie? I can get you a bad movie. There are ways, Dude. You don't want to know about it, believe me.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2017 08:49 PM (5VlCp)

240 178 Cliff Calvin Trivia:

Omar Sharif was world ranked in what organized activity?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:36 PM (IDPbH)


Backgammon

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 08:49 PM (17QyB)

241 "Jennifer Connelly is another one that seemed to get naked in every movie."



Apparently, the Internet has supplied a full list.



http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/name.php/46

Posted by: Apostate



We're making good use of mankind's technological zenith.

Posted by: pep at July 15, 2017 08:49 PM (LAe3v)

242 Another 'Mad Max' link I just ran across:

'Mad Max' Jihad: Seized ISIS combat vehicles go on exhibit in Mosul (PHOTOS)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7zr6tua

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 08:49 PM (oVJmc)

243
Logan's Run is/was the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars-era Hollywood sci-fi.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2017 08:22 PM (eMKNe)


eh, Logan's Run was Zardoz without a plot and no acting ability. It was absolutely a Sci-Fi New Wave story, and a quite unimaginative one, at that.

Now the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars sci-fi was The Black Hole, which was an attempt to re-do Forbidden Planet. Silent Running is up there too.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2017 08:50 PM (mkDpn)

244 The same guys I went to see "Logan's Run" with, also went to see "The Exorcist" a few years earlier.

We were pretty much laughing all the way through that one. Which gives you some idea of where we were at.

The head spinning, the vomiting of the pea green soup, and on and on.....

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 15, 2017 08:51 PM (S6Pax)

245 Comet TV is now playing X-Ray, only redeeming quality is that it stars Barbi Benton.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 15, 2017 08:51 PM (6Ll1u)

246
I don't get Comet TV with the good old cable package but I see that they run MST3K. Tomorrow is Overdrawn at the Memory Bank. "Ma, my nuts?"

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 08:51 PM (auHtY)

247
(you know what was really awful? The Logan's Run TV series that was on for a year or two in 77 - 78.)


You can't not like Donald Moffat as REM.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 08:51 PM (oVJmc)

248 Jeff Bridges it GREAT in this movie. He and Sam Elliot make a great team, and it's kind of hilarious that he can't bowl (it was his first movie after "The Big Lebowski").

If you don't know anything about politics, it's okay, right up until that last speech which is so far left to be bizarre.

It's actually a good example of Cargo Cult-ing. The left has been very effective at using movies to promote their viewpoints but giving subtle-but-difficult decisions that they show working out their way.

In this case, it's like they figure if they show a "principled" character, she can spew her communist manifesto and the audience will say "Yeah! That's all great stuff!"

Posted by: moviegique at July 15, 2017 08:51 PM (CcUfv)

249 240 178 Cliff Calvin Trivia:

Omar Sharif was world ranked in what organized activity?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:36 PM (IDPbH)

Backgammon
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 08:49 PM (17QyB)


Backgammon, Bridge; whatever.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 08:51 PM (17QyB)

250 Hmm SG was based on a Harry Harrison (Stainless Steel Rat author) book but only sort of.

I think I opined in one of these threads that SSR would make a good movie or TV Series.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 08:51 PM (jHrzU)

251 Eromero- Johnny Lang, The "Lie to Me" CD is pure soul.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 08:52 PM (fZqx4)

252 230 Omar Sharif was world ranked in what organized activity?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:36 PM (IDPbH)

Without checking, I believe it was bridge, although if you told me it was poker I wouldn't be surprised.
Posted by: HTL at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (zl60v)

Yes it was bridge.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:52 PM (IDPbH)

253 (you know what was really awful? The Logan's Run TV series that was on for a year or two in 77 - 78.)
Posted by: Tom Servo



Heather Menzies did make an impression on this young lad.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 08:52 PM (GbzYN)

254 Ma, my nuts indeed.

I have Comet through Roku. It's fun. They run MST3k and Rifftrax non stop.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2017 08:52 PM (xJa6I)

255 Now the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars sci-fi was The Black Hole, which was an attempt to re-do Forbidden Planet. Silent Running is up there too.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2017 08:50 PM (mkDpn)



The Black Hole was released in 1979.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 08:52 PM (auHtY)

256 >>
"The church I go to is the one that emancipated the slaves..."


She's a Republican?



"Or something else...." *wink, wink*
--- William Wilberforce

Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 08:52 PM (NOIQH)

257 Silent Running is up there too.
Posted by: Kindltot


Bruce Dern played a crazy person....again.

What a stretch.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 15, 2017 08:53 PM (S6Pax)

258 **Now the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars sci-fi was The Black Hole, which was an attempt to re-do Forbidden Planet. Silent Running is up there too.**

Kindltot...The Black Hole was 1979, two years after Star Wars.

Posted by: moviegique at July 15, 2017 08:53 PM (CcUfv)

259 I got one of those little sample bottles of Grand Marnier. But I don't have a small glass appropriate for liquor, because I'm working away from home. Gonna take it straight and see...

Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 08:53 PM (n1dE4)

260 248 Jeff Bridges it GREAT in this movie. He and Sam Elliot make a great team, and it's kind of hilarious that he can't bowl (it was his first movie after "The Big Lebowski").

If you don't know anything about politics, it's okay, right up until that last speech which is so far left to be bizarre.

It's actually a good example of Cargo Cult-ing. The left has been very effective at using movies to promote their viewpoints but giving subtle-but-difficult decisions that they show working out their way.

In this case, it's like they figure if they show a "principled" character, she can spew her communist manifesto and the audience will say "Yeah! That's all great stuff!"
Posted by: moviegique at July 15, 2017 08:51 PM (CcUfv)

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If the movie hasn't angered me with it's stupidity so thoroughly, I would have given it all the points you do. It IS will acted.

But, I just don't think it's enough to come close to begin to save the movie as a whole.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:53 PM (Jj43a)

261 The Contender also double-dealt with the actors. Gary Oldman was literally unemployable because he complained about how his character was re-written and cut together in the final film.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2017 08:53 PM (xJa6I)

262 @245 I am guessing you are West Coast then - watched X-Ray (originally Hospital Massacre) earlier. It is...horrible.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 08:54 PM (jHrzU)

263 Oh dear, does this mean Kindltot is off to the Barrel ?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 15, 2017 08:54 PM (6FqZa)

264 258 **Now the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars sci-fi was The Black Hole, which was an attempt to re-do Forbidden Planet. Silent Running is up there too.**

Kindltot...The Black Hole was 1979, two years after Star Wars.
Posted by: moviegique at July 15, 2017 08:53 PM (CcUfv)

It identifies as a pre-Star Wars movie. WHo are you to judge, h8r?

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 08:55 PM (ANIFC)

265

The Donnie Yen version in 2014.

I can give links for streaming vids. If you're clever enough to have Flashgot in firefox of pale moon, you can download it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 08:55 PM (IDvUO)

266 (you know what was really awful? The Logan's Run TV series that was on for a year or two in 77 - 78.)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (V2Yro)



Another TV show I watched as a kid that went off the air after one season. I swear to God I must have been the Nielsen ratings kiss of death for TV shows

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 08:55 PM (auHtY)

267 261 The Contender also double-dealt with the actors. Gary Oldman was literally unemployable because he complained about how his character was re-written and cut together in the final film.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2017 08:53 PM (xJa6I)

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Lying for the cause is justified.

Matt Yglesias told me so.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:55 PM (Jj43a)

268
Now the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars sci-fi was The Black Hole, which was an attempt to re-do Forbidden Planet.


Black Hole is post-Star Wars.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 08:55 PM (oVJmc)

269 245 Comet TV is now playing X-Ray, only redeeming quality is that it stars Barbi Benton.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 15, 2017 08:51 PM (6Ll1u)

She out grew
Brass buckles on her shoes
By twelve she was fillin; out her jeans...

Posted by: Protein from the Sea! at July 15, 2017 08:55 PM (brIR5)

270 Dunno if any were ever filmed, but Allen Drury's novels were both interesting and pretty plausible about politics. The plots ventured into the fanciful later, but the basic how-politics-works stuff still seemed pretty real.

And yes, that means minutia and partial victories. The central plot of Advice and Consent was about the confirmation of a Secretary of State. And he made that interesting.

Posted by: Splunge at July 15, 2017 08:55 PM (iMxBJ)

271 Bruce Dern played a crazy person....again.


It was his penance for shooting John Wayne in the back.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 08:56 PM (GbzYN)

272 I stayed away from The Contender; it had Democrat masturbatory fantasy written all over it. I could stand to see a prequel about the gangbang though.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 15, 2017 08:56 PM (H5knJ)

273 270 And yes, that means minutia and partial victories. The central plot of Advice and Consent was about the confirmation of a Secretary of State. And he made that interesting.
Posted by: Splunge at July 15, 2017 08:55 PM (iMxBJ)

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I don't think it's impossible to make good dreams from realistic politics, but it's hard. And when lazy people try to do it, you get The Contender.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 08:56 PM (Jj43a)

274 Ben Had @ 251 Agreed.
Sounds kinda like Robert Cray.

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2017 08:57 PM (zLDYs)

275 I always hated Bruce Dean when I was a kid for killing John Wayne in the Cowboys. That movie was my fantasy as a kid.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:57 PM (IDPbH)

276 Way back up there- The UK version of "House of Cards" was ruthless.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 08:57 PM (fZqx4)

277 I don't think it's impossible to make good dreams from realistic politics, but it's hard. And when lazy people try to do it, you get The Contender.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone

It's like poetry, it rhymes.

Posted by: George Lucas at July 15, 2017 08:58 PM (5YBu8)

278 Ya Blaster, I'm west coast. Hopefully that means I will get my movie at 8:00 my time.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 15, 2017 08:58 PM (6Ll1u)

279 I know it was a TV movie, but what was the one where they froze some guy and he came back in a future of beautiful people who kept slaves and had a world wide underground subway? They would shock their slaves with batons or some such. Fun movie.

Marylou Something or other was in it with two belly buttons. She was a looker.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2017 08:58 PM (5VlCp)

280 I have never seen The Contender. Just saying, Jeff Bridges is a great actor, period. He's really good at just about everything he does. "RIPD" was pretty bad, but was humoressly campy in it. I think they wanted him to be Rooster Cogburn again.

Gary Oldman is maybe the greatest character actor of this era. He can play just about any role convincingly.

So they had some good players in it, but then again, nothing can save a bad story.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 15, 2017 08:58 PM (S6Pax)

281 Dean = Dern

F'ing autocorrect.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:58 PM (IDPbH)

282 Now the pinnacle of pre-Star Wars sci-fi was The Black Hole, which was an attempt to re-do Forbidden Planet. Silent Running is up there too.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2017 08:50 PM (mkDpn)


The Black Hole came out after Star Wars. It was a big deal being the first PG rated Disney movie, IIRC.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 08:59 PM (17QyB)

283 Eromero- I don't know any Robert Cray , can you recommend something for me?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 08:59 PM (fZqx4)

284 I always hated Bruce Dean when I was a kid for killing John Wayne in the Cowboys. That movie was my fantasy as a kid.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:57 PM (IDPbH)



Same here. That movie represented to my very young but political mind us vs. the hippie scum.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 09:00 PM (auHtY)

285 Posted by: Protein from the Sea! at July 15, 2017 08:55 PM (brIR5)

Aside from Jenny Agutter, that was my favorite part of "logan's Run" - a killer robot extolling the virtues of fish & plankton & protein from the sea. Fucking insane.

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 09:00 PM (ANIFC)

286 I know it was a TV movie, but what was the one where they froze some guy and he came back in a future of beautiful people who kept slaves and had a world wide underground subway? They would shock their slaves with batons or some such. Fun movie.

Genesis II, a Roddenberry pilot film.

Later remade with John Saxon, and once more with other people.

None of the pilots sold.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 09:00 PM (oVJmc)

287 Dunno if any were ever filmed, but Allen Drury's novels were both interesting and pretty plausible about politics. The plots ventured into the fanciful later, but the basic how-politics-works stuff still seemed pretty real.

Advise and Consent was, with Walter Pidgeon as Bob Munson and Henry Fonda as Bob Leffingwell. I understand he refused to sell the film rights to any others.

Actually, Drury's insights on the media are spot on 50+ years later.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 09:00 PM (RZXSp)

288 I love Farscape and holy cripes is Ben Browder easy on the eyes.


*fans self*

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 15, 2017 09:01 PM (/o9Qk)

289 Absolute Power was a decent book. Anyone see the Eastwood movie?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:01 PM (IDPbH)

290 There's this sushi place in town run by a family of Taiwanese, they're always showing crazy Chinese shit on a big screen tv but it kinds makes me want to go in and see what they got. One time it was all about a misfit kungfu soccer team (Kind of a Kwai Chang Caine does Balls of Fury) and another time it was so totally weird with Demon Women and magic fighting monkey and Buddha that I just had to ask what the hell that was, and they said "Oh, Monkey King 2."

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 09:02 PM (V2Yro)

291 288 I love Farscape and holy cripes is Ben Browder easy on the eyes.


*fans self*
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 15, 2017 09:01 PM (/o9Qk)

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Why do you think I have the entire series on DVD??

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 09:02 PM (s5Kql)

292 Omar Sharif was world ranked in what organized activity?

Posted by: Jack Sock
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Bridge. i used to read his column all of the time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:02 PM (OdK9v)

293 I think the show "Veep" is the most accurate portrayal of US politics ever.

Posted by: FarkinClownshoes at July 15, 2017 09:03 PM (X3ClC)

294
Suicide Squad (Netflix Rating 1/5 | Quality Rating 0.5/4) "A complete and total mess without a lick of sense for dramatic structure."





Yes, absolutely.

But, Harley Quinn's ass........


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:03 PM (iFZVz)

295 289 Absolute Power was a decent book. Anyone see the Eastwood movie?
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:01 PM (IDPbH)

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I really like it. It's good, solid entertainment.

While there are characters who are political personages ( Gene Hackman plays POTUS), is not a political movie. It's about power, straight up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:03 PM (Jj43a)

296 Bruce Dean was in Giant.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:04 PM (OdK9v)

297 The Contender also double-dealt with the actors. Gary Oldman was literally unemployable because he complained about how his character was re-written and cut together in the final film.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Oh yeah. "Whitelisting".

After all the allegations of Blacklisting from the 1950's for cooperation with HUAC hearings, a lot of the people that testified for the government were "whitelisted" and really never worked again.

The Party was very strong in Hollywood among the actors, trades, etc. It did sort of die out in the 1960's, but the residue of everything the Communist Party did in Hollywood is with us ....still.
There are all kinds of political hurdles and mazes actors and actresses have to wind through to work consistently.
Oldman shot off his mouth, and the Hollywood Nomenklatura reminded him of who he was.

Nice folks.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 15, 2017 09:04 PM (S6Pax)

298 I think "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" is the most accurate portrayal of US politics, ever. Except for the last 60 seconds.

Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 09:04 PM (n1dE4)

299 Curse of the Golden Flower- best $1 I ever laughed at.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 09:04 PM (fZqx4)

300 293 I think the show "Veep" is the most accurate portrayal of US politics ever.
Posted by: FarkinClownshoes at July 15, 2017 09:03 PM (X3ClC)

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My mother will not stop recommending it to me.

Well, now that I have HBO, maybe I'll finally check it out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:04 PM (Jj43a)

301 DG,

http://tinyurl.com/y7q75juy

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 09:04 PM (s5Kql)

302 Bruce Dean was in Giant.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc
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Belay that..it was James Dern.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:05 PM (OdK9v)

303 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:02 PM (OdK9v)

That's right. I had forgotten he had a column on Bridge. It was in all the newspapers I knew of.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:05 PM (IDPbH)

304 Dunno if any were ever filmed, but Allen Drury's novels were both interesting and pretty plausible about politics. The plots ventured into the fanciful later, but the basic how-politics-works stuff still seemed pretty real.

And yes, that means minutia and partial victories. The central plot of Advice and Consent was about the confirmation of a Secretary of State. And he made that interesting.

Posted by: Splunge at July 15, 2017 08:55 PM (iMxBJ)


Trying to parse your comment. Advise and Consent was made into a movie (I greatly preferred the original in B&W, not the colorized version); are you asking if any of the others were ever made into movies as well? (Because as far I as I know, they weren't.)

Posted by: HTL at July 15, 2017 09:05 PM (zl60v)

305 I think I opined in one of these threads that SSR would make a good movie or TV Series.
Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 08:51 PM (jHrzU)


I think Harrison said that he had been selling options on that story for 30 years, over and over again. He said it was as good as writing.

I suppose it could be done now

Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2017 09:05 PM (mkDpn)

306 299 Curse of the Golden Flower- best $1 I ever laughed at.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 09:04 PM (fZqx4)

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So tedious....

Snores seem a bit more appropriate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:06 PM (Jj43a)

307 I watch a lot of old westerns, and Bruce Dern

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 15, 2017 09:06 PM (6Ll1u)

308 Curse of the Golden Flower- best $1 I ever laughed at.
Posted by: Ben Had

The final battle is pretty epic though.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 09:06 PM (5YBu8)

309 I'd like to see a movie made of 'Lucky Bastard'. Probably won't happen.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:06 PM (OdK9v)

310 I always hated Bruce Dean when I was a kid for killing John Wayne in the Cowboys. That movie was my fantasy as a kid.

If it's any consolation, Bruce Dern was deluged with hate mail regarding that.
He was like " they understand it was a movie, right ?"

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:06 PM (ibGaJ)

311 Dern the torpedoes!

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 09:07 PM (ANIFC)

312 Genesis II, a Roddenberry pilot film.
Later remade with John Saxon, and once more with other people.
None of the pilots sold.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 09:00 PM (oVJmc)

Thanks Peebs!

The world wide subway was a neat idea. Super fast if I recall.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2017 09:07 PM (5VlCp)

313 Absolute Power- Have watched it many times over. It takes at least twice to get all the jibes.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 09:07 PM (fZqx4)

314 Belay that..it was James Dern.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

He was in The Burbs with Tim Hanks, right?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 09:07 PM (5YBu8)

315 I liked Curse of the Golden Flower. Eventually. The movie got better as it went, but I remember it starting weak and slow.

Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 09:07 PM (n1dE4)

316 That Dern cat!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2017 09:07 PM (IqV8l)

317 The world wide subway was a neat idea. Super fast if I recall.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy


Elon Musk has this covered. If the government gives him enough crony money.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 15, 2017 09:08 PM (S6Pax)

318
310 I always hated Bruce Dean when I was a kid for killing John Wayne in the Cowboys. That movie was my fantasy as a kid.

If it's any consolation, Bruce Dern was deluged with hate mail regarding that.
He was like " they understand it was a movie, right ?"

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:06 PM (ibGaJ)







He knew it was going to make him a pariah, but he took the role anyway. The story is, his friends told him that he'd be hated as the man who shot John Wayne. Dern just replied "yeah, but they'll looooove me in Berkeley".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:09 PM (iFZVz)

319 Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:06 PM (ibGaJ)

Heh that reminds me that I thought they were playing live music on the radio when I was 4 or 5 years old.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:09 PM (IDPbH)

320 Valerian is coming. Unsure about it. Looks like Luc Besson took acid.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 09:09 PM (jHrzU)

321
Dean Stockwell is mortadella?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 09:09 PM (IDvUO)

322 283 Eromero- I don't know any Robert Cray , can you recommend something for me?


Strong Persuader is a pretty solid album

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 09:09 PM (GbzYN)

323 GIANT- I F"N LOVED IT

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 09:09 PM (fZqx4)

324 Ben Had @ 283---
Strong Persuader by Robert Cray.

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2017 09:10 PM (zLDYs)

325 Kindltot...The Black Hole was 1979, two years after Star Wars.

And I would argue that the entire mind-set is pre-Star Wars, no matter when it came out.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2017 09:10 PM (mkDpn)

326 320 Valerian is coming. Unsure about it. Looks like Luc Besson took acid.
Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 09:09 PM (jHrzU)

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Reviews are about what I thought they'd be:

Energetic, nonsensical, and fun.

A bigger budgeted Fifth Element with less interesting lead actors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:10 PM (Jj43a)

327 Why do you think I have the entire series on DVD??


Claudia Black? :-)

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 09:10 PM (GbzYN)

328 There are a lot of good conservative novels and good novels by conservatives that could be made, but why bother? Hollywoodistas would only ruin them, either distorting them into losing the point or twisting them into the opposite of what the author intended.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 09:10 PM (RO6/m)

329 Suicide Squad (Netflix Rating 1/5 | Quality Rating 0.5/4) "A complete and total mess without a lick of sense for dramatic structure."





Yes, absolutely.

But, Harley Quinn's ass........


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:03 PM (iFZVz)

Yep, first Superhero movie you can jerk off to.

...or so I've heard it said....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2017 09:10 PM (xJa6I)

330 I'll never forget Rae Dern Chong in 'Quest for Fire'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:11 PM (OdK9v)

331 So do I, Ben Had.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 09:11 PM (s5Kql)

332 Bruce Dern showed he had a real talent for dry comedy early on, one of my faves is "Support your local Sheriff" with James Garner. Dern does one of the best send ups of tough guys in cowboy movies ever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 09:11 PM (V2Yro)

333
Since we're on the movie thread, and folks are talking about Robert Cray......he was in Animal House. Bass player for Otis Day and the Knights.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:11 PM (iFZVz)

334 Why do you think I have the entire series on DVD??

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 09:02 PM (s5Kql)


Oh, I hear you...

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 15, 2017 09:12 PM (/o9Qk)

335 'Ben Him' would be a good handle for a tranny.

Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 09:13 PM (n1dE4)

336

Later remade with John Saxon, and once more with other people.


I'd forgotten this, but the third try was also starring John Saxon, playing a different character. By this time Roddenberry was no longer involved and the new producers made significant changes to the plot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_New_World_(TV_program)

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 09:13 PM (oVJmc)

337 GIANT- I F"N LOVED IT
Posted by: Ben Had
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Your nic always leaves me in a quandary regarding your posts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:13 PM (OdK9v)

338 322 283 Eromero- I don't know any Robert Cray , can you recommend something for me?


Strong Persuader is a pretty solid album
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 09:09 PM (GbzYN)

you can get his best of on I tunes for 5.99.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:13 PM (IDPbH)

339 Bruce Dern showed he had a real talent for dry comedy early on, one of my faves is "Support your local Sheriff" with James Garner. Dern does one of the best send ups of tough guys in cowboy movies ever.


Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 09:11 PM


Bruce Dern is pretty much always good value.

Posted by: otho at July 15, 2017 09:13 PM (lmIoG)

340 SMFH- You are a National Treasure lady.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 09:13 PM (fZqx4)

341 Bruce Dean was in Giant.

Naw, that was Jimmie Dean and his sausage.

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:14 PM (ibGaJ)

342 I count The Cowboys in my top 3 westerns, and haven't seen Silent Running in ages but believe my trivia that every spaceship was named after a National Park except the ship Bruce and his 3 bots on the Valley Forge which when made was only a Pennsylvania state park.

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 09:14 PM (9g/6M)

343 'Ben Him' would be a good handle for a tranny.
Posted by: Apostate
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Sounds like a perfect title for tranny pron.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:15 PM (kusha)

344 Awww...

What's not to love?

A movie about Texas with Elizabeth Taylor, Rock Hudson, and James Dean.

Duh.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 09:16 PM (s5Kql)

345 Starting to sound like Mogadishu outside here.

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 09:16 PM (9g/6M)

346 Mike Hammer- That is the whole point. Of course you could ask SMFH, Danger Girl or Country Boy if you really wanted to know.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 09:16 PM (fZqx4)

347 SMFH


http://tinyurl.com/y9hhmxak

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 15, 2017 09:16 PM (/o9Qk)

348 Oooh!

Thanks DG!

Like those guns.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 09:18 PM (s5Kql)

349 Huey, Dewey, and Louie.

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2017 09:18 PM (zLDYs)

350 Bruce Dern and the delectable Karen Black were in a Hitchcock movie, Family Plot, which was really quite funny.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2017 09:19 PM (AWYXL)

351 Someone here a few weeks ago mentioned "They Live" with Rowdy Roddy Piper.

I forgot what a fun movie that was.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2017 09:19 PM (5VlCp)

352 Thats big incoming artillery

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 09:19 PM (9g/6M)

353 Speaking of Texas movies, the a well acted , well written , well directed movie HUD is the exact opposite of I want in my movies. I felt like crap after watching it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:19 PM (IDPbH)

354 Its not strictly political but My Fellow Americans with Jim Garner and Jack Lemmon was great. Virtually no political stuff beyond party bashing between the presidents, and very entertaining. Great cast.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 09:19 PM (39g3+)

355 Awww...

What's not to love?

A movie about Texas with Elizabeth Taylor, Rock Hudson, and James Dean.

Duh.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 09:16 PM (s5Kql)


I wuz just funnin', Marshall.

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:20 PM (ibGaJ)

356 Bruce Dern and the delectable Karen Black were in a Hitchcock movie, Family Plot, which was really quite funny.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2017 09:19 PM


Yeah, Hitchcock's last.

Posted by: otho at July 15, 2017 09:20 PM (lmIoG)

357 351 Someone here a few weeks ago mentioned "They Live" with Rowdy Roddy Piper.

I forgot what a fun movie that was.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2017 09:19 PM (5VlCp)

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Another unpopular opinion of mine:

I don't like it very much. I find it obvious and not that engaging with some very fun moments.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:20 PM (Jj43a)

358 "They Live" is possibly the Greatest Movie of ALL TIME!!!!

Ok, thats a bit over the top but I do love that movie. Rowdy Roddy Piper was robbed of an Oscar!

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 09:21 PM (GbzYN)

359
Speaking of Rock Hudson, I hope MeTV will start running "McMillan and Wife" again soon.

He and Susan Saint James had some of the best on-screen chemistry of just about any couple. And then throw in Rhoda's mom, Nancy Walker, as the wisecracking housekeeper. She had chemistry with both of to, in a different way.

I always wondered if Susan Saint James knew where that mouth had likely been and what it was doing when she'd kiss him.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 15, 2017 09:21 PM (8O3HH)

360 eh, Logan's Run was Zardoz without a plot and no acting ability. It was absolutely a Sci-Fi New Wave story, and a quite unimaginative one, at that.

It wasn't even all that faithful to the novel, which frankly reads a little too much like today's headlines (aside from that crystal in the palm thing).

Posted by: Brother Cavil, not a damn failure at July 15, 2017 09:22 PM (66CWr)

361 Someone here a few weeks ago mentioned "They Live" with Rowdy Roddy Piper.

I forgot what a fun movie that was.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

A chilling look into an alternate universe in which a more attractive and personable Hillary! won the White House.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 09:22 PM (5YBu8)

362 If it's any consolation, Bruce Dern was deluged with hate mail regarding that.

I guess Laura Dern caught hell for her dad killing John Wayne, too.

But The Cowboys is in my top 10 westerns list. Top 5 even

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 09:22 PM (39g3+)

363 "My Fellow Americans"

Was that the one with the idiot Vice President taking over who pronounces facade as 'fah-kade?'

Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 09:22 PM (n1dE4)

364 I always wondered if Susan Saint James knew where that mouth had likely been and what it was doing when she'd kiss him.
Posted by: publius

They all knew.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 15, 2017 09:22 PM (S6Pax)

365 Just finished Ghost in the Shell. Meh. Perhaps I'm not Japanese enough.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:22 PM (LTHVh)

366 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 15, 2017 09:21 PM (8O3HH)

I think it was an open secret in Hollywood so she knew. I did enjoy the Rock Hudson Doris Day movies.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:22 PM (IDPbH)

367 Haw! Yankees and Red Sox are going into the 16th inning and they have a doubleheader tomorrow. Hope this weekend wrecks them both.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 09:23 PM (PBalj)

368 Bet I haven't seen They Live in 20 years

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2017 09:23 PM (9g/6M)

369 One of my favorite Bruce Dern movies is Diggstown. James Woods, young Heather Graham, fun hustle plot, boxing.

Love it, own it, watch it every year.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2017 09:23 PM (xJa6I)

370 Just finished Ghost in the Shell. Meh. Perhaps I'm not Japanese enough.
Posted by: Grump928


We're all turning Japanese

I really think so.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 15, 2017 09:24 PM (S6Pax)

371 IIRC, the fight scene in "They Live" was 17 minutes long.

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 09:24 PM (ANIFC)

372 361
A chilling look into an alternate universe in which a more attractive and personable Hillary! won the White House.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 09:22 PM (5YBu

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I get it. Alien as president.

But Carpenter made it about Reagan. He thinks that Republicans are aliens.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:24 PM (Jj43a)

373 Ack! I hated this movie too. All she has to say is: "Nah, that's not me in that photo, y'all". But she doesn't defend herself because of privacy or something. So deeply stupid.

Posted by: Ice Cream Connoiseur and Pearl Clutcher at July 15, 2017 09:24 PM (yODqO)

374 I really liked Logan's Run, particularly at the end when they find the US Constitution and decide that's a fine way to run a country. I think it deserves a remake. It triggers a basic rule for remakes: too dated.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 09:24 PM (39g3+)

375 Another unpopular opinion of mine:

I don't like it very much. I find it obvious and not that engaging with some very fun moments.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:20 PM


I know I'm gonna catch flack for this, but Roddy Piper does not help the flick. He's wooden and the role was too much for him.

Posted by: otho at July 15, 2017 09:24 PM (lmIoG)

376 I've decided I'm bored with shows and games and writing tonight... gonna get out the soldering iron and multimeter to make a thingy work.

Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 09:25 PM (n1dE4)

377 Still 1 to 1 at Fenway in the 16th. Utility infielders will soon be pitching.

A big market / big payroll team tries to buy its way past a poor team from The Bronx.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:25 PM (pV/54)

378 They Live? Meh. Stone Cold - that's a movie!

Posted by: Brian Bosworth at July 15, 2017 09:25 PM (bc2Lc)

379 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2017 09:23 PM (xJa6I)

You had me at Heather Graham. I'd throw Margot Robbie off a train to get to Heather Graham.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:25 PM (IDPbH)

380 372: Eh. Its not the first time where a director or writer had one idea about the Meaning of a film but the audience saw something else (see HBOs The Wire).

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 09:25 PM (GbzYN)

381 >>Why do you think I have the entire series on DVD??

Ditto!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 09:26 PM (NOIQH)

382 379 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2017 09:23 PM (xJa6I)

You had me at Heather Graham. I'd throw Margot Robbie off a train to get to Heather Graham.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:25 PM (IDPbH)

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Someone is a boob man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:26 PM (Jj43a)

383 Haw! Yankees and Red Sox are going into the 16th
inning and they have a doubleheader tomorrow. Hope this weekend wrecks
them both.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 09:23 PM (PBalj)

Not to mention that this game is being played under a Red Sox protest after a bizarre play in the top of the 11th.

Posted by: Spawn of Pierre Trudeau at July 15, 2017 09:26 PM (ZZo2I)

384 I'm not qualified to comment on Logan's Run. I saw it at a drive in. Many of these movies you call crap were fine entertainment at the drive in.

And speaking of crap, I would never watch a Tarantino movie about the Manson family. I can't stand Tarantino's work and I've read a lot about The Family. I can remember when Rolling Stone had Manson on the cover and called "man of the year". Just not interested in his take on it.

Watched The Hunt for Red October last night. It's still entertaining.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2017 09:26 PM (Lqy/e)

385 Off, sock!

Posted by: Venette at July 15, 2017 09:26 PM (ZZo2I)

386 Re: "They Live"

I have the bumper sticker linked in my nick. It reminds me of the signs in the movie as seen with the dark glasses.

I really, really want that sticker to go viral. Imagine if LIVs saw that message everywhere they looked.

Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

387
I remember reading or hearing them talk. Back in the day, some tabloid, or the equivalent, some celebrity gossip rag was going to burn Rock Hudson's faggotry.

Rock Hudson was such a big star that his people and the Hollywood big shots cut a deal to keep it quiet. In return they gave the rag juicy dirt on 5 other stars. They ruined 5 other people just to save Rock.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (8O3HH)

388 Eh. Its not the first time where a director or writer had one idea about the Meaning of a film but the audience saw something else (see HBOs The Wire).

Zemeckis was horrified that people thought Forrest Gump had conservative themes. He practically told off the audience over it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (oVJmc)

389 That's: "a poor, unheralded team from The Bronx."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (PBalj)

390 380 372: Eh. Its not the first time where a director or writer had one idea about the Meaning of a film but the audience saw something else (see HBOs The Wire).
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 09:25 PM (GbzYN)

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That's fine. It's not why I dislike the movie, though. I just don't find it that good overall.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (Jj43a)

391 374 I really liked Logan's Run, particularly at the end when they find the US Constitution and decide that's a fine way to run a country. I think it deserves a remake. It triggers a basic rule for remakes: too dated.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 09:24 PM (39g3+)

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Circa 2017, it would be the koran they found.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (s5Kql)

392 I'd love to see a remake of "The Sum of All Fears" that was at least remotely true to the novel

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (ANIFC)

393 Another thing I am hating about Comet TV app - commercials (which are not the same as the ones on the channel) are about 3x the volume. There is this annoying Toyota commercial that comes on.

MUTEMUTEMUTE

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (jHrzU)

394 Speaking of Planet of the Apes, at the Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL there is a gravesite and tall headstone for Miss Baker, the first US animal to survive the trip to space and back.

Miss Baker's tombstone will usually have a couple of bananas placed on it in tribute to her and how special she was. That is one of the most wonderful things I've learned this year, and now my kids insist we carry bananas if we're passing through.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (psH+N)

395 Speaking of Texas movies, the a well acted , well written , well directed movie HUD is the exact opposite of I want in my movies. I felt like crap after watching it.
Posted by: Jack Sock
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Were you cheered up by 'Cat on a Hot Tin Roof'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:28 PM (OdK9v)

396 You know what was a great Drive-In movie?

THE OCTAGON!!!

Chuck Norris before Chuck Norris was cool! (okay, while he was becoming cool)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 09:28 PM (V2Yro)

397 Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2017 09:26 PM (Lqy/e)

True Romance was Tarantino's best work . I'm grateful he didn't direct it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:28 PM (IDPbH)

398 You had me at Heather Graham. I'd throw Margot Robbie off a train to get to Heather Graham.

Is there a re-make in the works here ?

What's Danny De Vito doing these days ?

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:28 PM (ibGaJ)

399
in case you missed it:

Here is the Braveheart version of the cnn-trump meme. It is hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF5o4nOqwv4

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 09:29 PM (IDvUO)

400 True Romance was Tarantino's best work . I'm grateful he didn't direct it.


Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:28 PM


Agreed.

Posted by: otho at July 15, 2017 09:29 PM (lmIoG)

401 That's fine. It's not why I dislike the movie, though. I just don't find it that good overall.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone



If Rowdy Roddy Piper was still alive, I'd sentence you to Pipers Pit!! He'd just want to "talk" to you!

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 09:29 PM (GbzYN)

402 392 I'd love to see a remake of "The Sum of All Fears" that was at least remotely true to the novel
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (ANIFC)

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Another unpopular opinion:

I really like that movie. I think it works quite well.

I've also never read the book.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:29 PM (Jj43a)

403 Speaking of Planet of the Apes, at the Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL there is a gravesite and tall headstone for Miss Baker, the first US animal to survive the trip to space and back.
Miss Baker's tombstone will usually have a couple of bananas placed on it in tribute to her and how special she was. That is one of the most wonderful things I've learned this year, and now my kids insist we carry bananas if we're passing through.
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (psH+N)

Now that is cool and special. I did not know that.

Thanks Hate Homo!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2017 09:30 PM (5VlCp)

404 What's Danny De Vito doing these days ?
Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:28 PM (ibGaJ)

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Rhea Perlman still, I think.

Posted by: O. GOULD at July 15, 2017 09:30 PM (vj/UE)

405 Speaking of Rock Hudson, I hope MeTV will start running "McMillan and Wife" again soon.

He and Susan Saint James had some of the best on-screen chemistry of just about any couple. And then throw in Rhoda's mom, Nancy Walker, as the wisecracking housekeeper. She had chemistry with both of to, in a different way.



Cozi TV runs it Sundays at noon Central.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 09:30 PM (auHtY)

406 I think From Dusk Til Dawn is Tarantino's best.

Because he gets killed in it. Twice.

Oh, and Salma Hayek.

Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2017 09:30 PM (jHrzU)

407
69 George Miller lost Best Director Oscar for his Mad Max Fury Road to whoever it was that directed The Revenant.

On the short list of Greatest Oscar fuck-ups of which there are many.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 08:06 PM (pV/54)








Nah. The worst was probably when the Academy butt-fucked Scorsese in 1980 so they could give Redford a Best Director Oscar for the thoroughly forgettable Ordinary People in his first time behind the camera.

And Scorsese made it worse by spending the next 26 years chasing the Best Director award, especially after the Academy turned right around and butt-fucked him all over again in '90 by giving the award to Kevin Costner for HIS first film, over the clearly superior Goodfellas.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:30 PM (iFZVz)

408 Watched The Hunt for Red October last night. It's still entertaining.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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"This is going to get out of hand..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (OdK9v)

409 "Were you cheered up by 'Cat on a Hot Tin Roof'?"

Hey, "Cat" actually has a pretty uplifting ending. And Burl Ives is just amazing as Big Daddy.

I like Tennessee Williams a lot, I confess. (Streetcar is the one I actually like the least, I think) I think probably the most darkly freakish psycho-sexual plot line ever was "Suddenly Last Summer", another great Liz Taylor showcase.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (V2Yro)

410 Fixing nic.

Posted by: GOULD at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (vj/UE)

411 Curse of the Golden Flower

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You cannot take what I have not given you.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (pzA2L)

412 404 What's Danny De Vito doing these days ?
Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:28 PM (ibGaJ)

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Rhea Perlman still, I think.
Posted by: O. GOULD at July 15, 2017 09:30 PM (vj/UE)

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And It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (Jj43a)

413 Asking the important questions:

[ ] Vanessa Kensington (Elizabeth Hurley)
[ ] Felicity Shagwell (Heather Graham)
[ ] Cleopatra Jones (Beyonce)

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (pV/54)

414 Circa 2017, it would be the koran they found.
Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (s5Kql)

Would love to see a "future" movie, in which they find a koran, and use it for toilet paper.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (AWYXL)

415 397 Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2017 09:26 PM (Lqy/e)

True Romance was Tarantino's best work . I'm grateful he didn't direct it.
Posted by: Jack Sock



The only scene I remember about that film is Dennis Hopper and Christopher Walkin discussing Sicilian ancestry. GREAT scene!

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 09:32 PM (GbzYN)

416 heheh AOP

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 09:32 PM (s5Kql)

417 >>Eh. Its not the first time where a director or writer had one idea
about the Meaning of a film but the audience saw something else (see
HBOs The Wire).



I'm still undecided on if this is the case with "The Last Supper."

Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 09:32 PM (NOIQH)

418 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:28 PM (OdK9v)

Never saw it but it's a Tennessee Williams play so it had to be tragic. I'm going to contradict myself because This Property is Condemned is one of my favorite movies. It wasn't until the end where it was soul crushing.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:33 PM (IDPbH)

419 "I've also never read the book."

Short version: they pussed out and used some nondescript, boring, cliche neo-fascists as the villains instead of the ACTUAL villains... Muslim terrorists.

Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 09:33 PM (n1dE4)

420 407 Nah. The worst was probably when the Academy butt-fucked Scorsese in 1980 so they could give Redford a Best Director Oscar for the thoroughly forgettable Ordinary People in his first time behind the camera.

And Scorsese made it worse by spending the next 26 years chasing the Best Director award, especially after the Academy turned right around and butt-fucked him all over again in '90 by giving the award to Kevin Costner for HIS first film, over the clearly superior Goodfellas.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:30 PM (iFZVz)

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And then they completely forgot him for what might have been his best movie, Silence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:33 PM (Jj43a)

421 413 Asking the important questions:

[ ] Vanessa Kensington (Elizabeth Hurley)
[X] Felicity Shagwell (Heather Graham)
[ ] Cleopatra Jones (Beyonce)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (pV/54)

My vote.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 15, 2017 09:33 PM (0mRoj)

422 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (AWYXL)

Here Achmed, but be sure to use your left hand!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 15, 2017 09:33 PM (gwPgz)

423 I'm going to rewatch "Dogma" tonight

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 09:33 PM (fZqx4)

424 'Rear end of a Hudson' would be a great punchline!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at July 15, 2017 09:33 PM (bc2Lc)

425 395 Speaking of Texas movies, the a well acted , well written , well directed movie HUD is the exact opposite of I want in my movies. I felt like crap after watching it.
Posted by: Jack Sock
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Were you cheered up by 'Cat on a Hot Tin Roof'?

Or A Walk on the Wild Side ?

Oh. That wasn't Texas .
That was New Jersey.

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:34 PM (ibGaJ)

426 "True Romance was Tarantino's best work ."

James Gandolfini's small role had a lot to do with his getting the Tony Soprano role

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:34 PM (pV/54)

427 Yes Comet has a lot of commercials. What do you expect for free?

Posted by: freaked at July 15, 2017 09:34 PM (BO/km)

428 Well, I will say this, Gary Coleman was very good as Senator Carol Moses Brown.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 15, 2017 09:34 PM (ILitO)

429 419 "I've also never read the book."

Short version: they pussed out and used some nondescript, boring, cliche neo-fascists as the villains instead of the ACTUAL villains... Muslim terrorists.
Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 09:33 PM (n1dE4)

And communists, and one of Liz Warren's tribe.

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 09:34 PM (ANIFC)

430 419 "I've also never read the book."

Short version: they pussed out and used some nondescript, boring, cliche neo-fascists as the villains instead of the ACTUAL villains... Muslim terrorists.
Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 09:33 PM (n1dE4)

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I knew that. I was just saying that I'm not colored by that fact. I took it wholly on its own terms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:35 PM (Jj43a)

431 Asking the important questions:

[ ] Vanessa Kensington (Elizabeth Hurley)
[ ] Felicity Shagwell (Heather Graham)
[ ] Cleopatra Jones (Beyonce)

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (pV/54)



Heather Graham. The third Austin Powers movie outside of being not that funny was a total waste of Michael Caine.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 09:35 PM (auHtY)

432 413 Asking the important questions:

[x] Vanessa Kensington (Elizabeth Hurley)
[ ] Felicity Shagwell (Heather Graham)
[ ] Cleopatra Jones (Beyonce)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (pV/54

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 09:35 PM (ANIFC)

433 Hated Yankees go ahead by one. It is time for me snore, cause I gots to be up at four, as I rise and close the door, of this sad truth we will speak no more.

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2017 09:35 PM (zLDYs)

434 426 "True Romance was Tarantino's best work ."

James Gandolfini's small role had a lot to do with his getting the Tony Soprano role
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:34 PM (pV/54)

Makes sense. He was also a very good bad guy in 8mm.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:36 PM (IDPbH)

435 Well, I will say this, Gary Coleman was very good as Senator Carol Moses Brown.


Few actors today have the stature of Gary Coleman, or the security guard license.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 15, 2017 09:36 PM (PXj2C)

436 394 Speaking of Planet of the Apes, at the Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL there is a gravesite and tall headstone for Miss Baker, the first US animal to survive the trip to space and back.

Miss Baker's tombstone will usually have a couple of bananas placed on it in tribute to her and how special she was. That is one of the most wonderful things I've learned this year, and now my kids insist we carry bananas if we're passing through.
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (psH+N)


Here you go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Baker

There was also a Miss Able on that flight, who also survived, but died four days later during an operation to remove electrodes. RIP.

Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2017 09:37 PM (sdi6R)

437 [ ] Vanessa Kensington (Elizabeth Hurley)
[X] Felicity Shagwell (Heather Graham)
[ ] Cleopatra Jones (Beyonce)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (pV/54)

My vote.

Posted by: Insomniac

Mine too.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 09:37 PM (5YBu8)

438 re 420: re 'Ordinary People': how could anyone take Mary Tyler Moore seriously at the end of the film when she is packing her bags and gets weepy? She'd been doing that for laughs for 20 years.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 15, 2017 09:37 PM (ILitO)

439 Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 09:35 PM (auHtY)

The tent scene in the Spy Who Shagged Me was ingenious.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:38 PM (IDPbH)

440 Hated Yankees go ahead by one. It is time for me snore, cause I gots to be up at four, as I rise and close the door, of this sad truth we will speak no more.

Doo-Dah

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:38 PM (ibGaJ)

441 All of Tennessee Williams works give me the creeps. The creepiest of all, I think, is 'Baby Doll'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 09:39 PM (OdK9v)

442 "True Romance was Tarantino's best work ."

James Gandolfini's small role had a lot to do with his getting the Tony Soprano role


Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:34 PM


You could never get a cast like that together in one film today... and they were all great, even in the small roles. Very well done. Tony Scott should get more kudos than he does, just for that movie alone.

Posted by: otho at July 15, 2017 09:39 PM (lmIoG)

443 "Support your local Sheriff" with James Garner. Dern does one of the best send ups of tough guys in cowboy movies ever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 09:11 PM (V2Yro)



Speaking of Garner there is a movie of his that I've only seen once and really don't think it's shown that much. 36 Hours. He wakes up in an American hospital in Occupied Germany in 1950 not remembering anything since being at a meeting for the final go away for Operation Overlord. The doctors are trying to help him get back his memory by having him go over what he remembers from the meeting. But things might not be what they seem

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 09:39 PM (auHtY)

444 Heather Graham. The third Austin Powers movie outside of being not that funny was a total waste of Michael Caine.

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How can you waste Michael Caine? If the paycheck cleared, it was not a waste.

Muppets Christmas Carol, QED.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 15, 2017 09:40 PM (PXj2C)

445 Asking the important questions:

[ ] Vanessa Kensington (Elizabeth Hurley)
[ ] Felicity Shagwell (Heather Graham)
[ ] Cleopatra Jones (Beyonce)

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:31 PM (pV/54)


[X] Mrs. Kensington (Mimi Rogers).

Posted by: HTL at July 15, 2017 09:40 PM (zl60v)

446 4 to 1 Yankees, and they're still batting

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:40 PM (pV/54)

447 Asking the important questions:

[ ] Vanessa Kensington (Elizabeth Hurley)
[ ] Felicity Shagwell (Heather Graham)
[ ] Cleopatra Jones (Beyonce)



yes
yes
twice on Sunday

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:40 PM (LTHVh)

448
388 Eh. Its not the first time where a director or writer had one idea about the Meaning of a film but the audience saw something else (see HBOs The Wire).

Zemeckis was horrified that people thought Forrest Gump had conservative themes. He practically told off the audience over it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 09:27 PM (oVJmc)








I'm appalled that people seem to think it's an uplifting story. It's fucking HORROR FILM. The heartless succubus Jenny keeps showing up and destroying Forrest's life before abandoning him, again and again. Eventually going back to him for good once he's rich, dumping off her spawn on Forrest, and presumably infecting him with AIDS, which in that time frame was a death sentence.

The look on Forrest's face in the last scene isn't serenity, it's the look of a thoroughly broken man.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:41 PM (iFZVz)

449 How can you waste Michael Caine? If the paycheck cleared, it was not a waste.

Muppets Christmas Carol, QED.

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Jaws III in 3d....

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 09:41 PM (pzA2L)

450 444 Muppets Christmas Carol, QED.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 15, 2017 09:40 PM (PXj2C)

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There's a video on YouTube that's a fake commentary by Caine for Christmas Carol.

It's only 4 minutes long and is hilarious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:42 PM (Jj43a)

451 MIchael Caine: I never saw that movie, but I did see the very nice house I bought with the paycheck I got

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 09:42 PM (pV/54)

452 Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 07:19 PM (fZqx4)

Consider it done, and Conor thanks you for reminding me of my duties!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 15, 2017 09:42 PM (gwPgz)

453 4 to 1 Yankees, and they're still batting

Oh da doo dah dey !

Posted by: JT at July 15, 2017 09:42 PM (ibGaJ)

454 Speaking of Garner there is a movie of his that I've only seen once and really don't think it's shown that much. 36 Hours. He wakes up in an American hospital in Occupied Germany in 1950 not remembering anything since being at a meeting for the final go away for Operation Overlord. The doctors are trying to help him get back his memory by having him go over what he remembers from the meeting. But things might not be what they seem
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 09:39 PM (auHtY)

I saw that on TCM a while back, it was very good

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 09:42 PM (ANIFC)

455 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:41 PM (iFZVz)

That was Gump's spawn.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:43 PM (IDPbH)

456 "Jennifer Connelly is another one that seemed to get naked in every movie."

Apparently, the Internet has supplied a full list.

http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/name.php/46

Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2017 08:47 PM (n1dE4)


Don't care what the thread topic is, this is thread winner.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 15, 2017 09:43 PM (aMlLZ)

457 Only movie I ever walked out on was "Torn Apart".

Horrible.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2017 09:43 PM (5VlCp)

458 How can you waste Michael Caine? If the paycheck cleared, it was not a waste.

Muppets Christmas Carol, QED.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 15, 2017 09:40 PM (PXj2C)



Because I loved Ipcress File and Funeral in Berlin and was hoping they would spoof thator give Caine more to work with instead of the waste of time the movie was. Although I think it gave who ever made SPECTRE the stupid brothers idea

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 09:43 PM (auHtY)

459 I'm wondering why a few of you are referring to 'Hud" and Tennessee Williams. The book was, if I remember (I read it years ago) called "Stand Down, Horseman" and was by Larry McMurtry

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 15, 2017 09:44 PM (ILitO)

460
449 How can you waste Michael Caine? If the paycheck cleared, it was not a waste.

Muppets Christmas Carol, QED.

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Jaws III in 3d....

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 09:41 PM (pzA2L)







Actually, Jaws: The Revenge. Jaws III was with Dennis Quaid.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:44 PM (iFZVz)

461 ITC- You nailed it.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 09:44 PM (fZqx4)

462 Speaking of Garner there is a movie of his that I've only seen once and really don't think it's shown that much. 36 Hours.

Near the end of that movie is a scene where Sig Ruman (Sgt. Schultz in Stalag 17) appears with John Banner (sgt. Schultz in Hogan's Heroes). Only time they ever appeared together, IIRC.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 09:45 PM (oVJmc)

463 Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 15, 2017 09:44 PM (ILitO)

No it was just typical aos going from subject to subject. It started with non-feel good movies.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:45 PM (IDPbH)

464 re 454: you might like Alan Parker's "Birdy"

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 15, 2017 09:45 PM (ILitO)

465 Thanks, I knew it was Jaws movie but guessed at it.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 15, 2017 09:46 PM (pzA2L)

466
455 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:41 PM (iFZVz)

That was Gump's spawn.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:43 PM (IDPbH)







Given Jenny's habit of spreading her legs for anyone with a penis and a dime bag, I'm not willing to take her word for it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:46 PM (iFZVz)

467 Michael Caine was recently in Witchhunter with Vin Diesel.

6/10 movie.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:47 PM (IDPbH)

468 Diggstown is a gem, its well worth seeing. Louis Gosset jr's best movie in my opinion. James Woods is always good.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 09:48 PM (39g3+)

469 ok, later, Gutfield is on in a minute. Maybe Tyrus will tell Kat Timpf to clam up for five minutes

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 15, 2017 09:48 PM (ILitO)

470 466 Given Jenny's habit of spreading her legs for anyone with a penis and a dime bag, I'm not willing to take her word for it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 09:46 PM (iFZVz)

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*Five minutes before Forrest shows up*
"Your name is Forrest now, Billy. Understand?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:48 PM (Jj43a)

471 468 Diggstown is a gem, its well worth seeing. Louis Gosset jr's best movie in my opinion. James Woods is always good.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 09:48 PM (39g3+)

Second best Gosset movie.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:49 PM (IDPbH)

472 >>Given Jenny's habit of spreading her legs for anyone with a penis and a dime bag, I'm not willing to take her word for it.


Yeah, thought Gump finally getting Jenny after she was used up and dying was such a downer. The one guy who truly loves her is treated the worst.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 15, 2017 09:49 PM (NOIQH)

473 Only movie I ever walked out on was "Torn Apart".
Horrible.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2017 09:43 PM (5VlCp)

My wife and I walked out on "Zelig". A true waste of celluloid.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at July 15, 2017 09:50 PM (T71PA)

474 Jennifer Connelly was much more my dream girl before the extensive plastic surgery and body by HGH and Smack.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 09:50 PM (39g3+)

475 Btw, the Forrest Gump movie is better than the book.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:51 PM (LTHVh)

476 Does Mars Attacks count as a political movie?

I really love James Garner in Murphy's Romance, which is a pretty conservative movie when you think about it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2017 09:52 PM (Lqy/e)

477 Watching Hot Fuzz. One of those movies that is completely terrific, and precisely because NOTHING was left to chance.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 15, 2017 09:52 PM (MZcWR)

478 475 Btw, the Forrest Gump movie is better than the book.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:51 PM (LTHVh)

That's got to be one of the few.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:52 PM (IDPbH)

479 Btw, the Forrest Gump movie is better than the book.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

Forrest Gump the Musical ftw.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 09:53 PM (5YBu8)

480 I watched Patriots Day this weekend, and I'd heard that the Mark Wahlberg character was a "composite" of at least 3 different cops.

Since he was in nearly every pivotal scene,even pushing critical decisions, it seems to me his character was more of a Marty-Sue, and that kind of sucked.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 09:53 PM (17QyB)

481 Diggstown is a gem, its well worth seeing. Louis Gosset jr's best movie in my opinion. James Woods is always good.

They've been playing that a lot for the last month or so on one of my broadcast channels (Charge!).

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 09:53 PM (oVJmc)

482 Yeah, thought Gump finally getting Jenny after she was used up and dying was such a downer. The one guy who truly loves her is treated the worst.

Yeah I think it was meant to be romantic and sweet that he loved her through it all but mostly it was awful and pathetic

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 09:54 PM (39g3+)

483
Louis Gossett Jr's best movie was ENEMY MINE.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 09:54 PM (IDvUO)

484 Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 09:53 PM (17QyB)

Mark Wahlberg is someone who can make a very good movies and very bad movies. He needs someone to help him pick scripts.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:55 PM (IDPbH)

485
Wasn't Gossett also in movie called Iron Eagles or something?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 09:55 PM (IDvUO)

486 Tank Girl (1995), MiB3 (2012), or Andrei Tarkovsky's Stalker (1979) with English Subtitles?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:55 PM (LTHVh)

487
The only part of 36 hours that made no sense was the Eva Marie Saint character. The Germans are trying to pull off this very elaborate and for them critical ruse and they use someone from a concentration camp.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 09:55 PM (auHtY)

488 Louis Gossett Jr's best movie was ENEMY MINE.

Correct.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:55 PM (LTHVh)

489 Enemy Mine is pretty good, I agree.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 09:56 PM (39g3+)

490 Watching Hot Fuzz. One of those movies that is completely terrific, and precisely because NOTHING was left to chance.

First half of that movie is all set-up, and the last half is all payoff.

*Every* little detail has the set-up in the first half and the payoff in the last.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 15, 2017 09:56 PM (oVJmc)

491 For me Connelly's best movie was "Blood Diamond"

Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 09:56 PM (fZqx4)

492

in which Gossett played a Sleestak with a tan

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 09:56 PM (IDvUO)

493 Btw, the Forrest Gump movie is better than the book.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:51 PM (LTHVh)



The book was that bad?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 09:56 PM (auHtY)

494 Gosset's best movie was Officer and a Gentleman by a long shot.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:56 PM (IDPbH)

495 486. Tarkovsky's Stalker, ftmfw!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 15, 2017 09:56 PM (TwwWO)

496 "It (government) gave us every freedom that we hold dear.

No, sorry, God did that.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 15, 2017 09:57 PM (d3wbb)

497 The only part of 36 hours that made no sense was the Eva Marie Saint character. The Germans are trying to pull off this very elaborate and for them critical ruse...

So it's like Roald Dahl's 'Beware of the Dog'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:57 PM (LTHVh)

498 The book was that bad?

It is.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:57 PM (LTHVh)

499 486 Tank Girl (1995), MiB3 (2012), or Andrei Tarkovsky's Stalker (1979) with English Subtitles?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:55 PM (LTHVh)

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Always choose Tarkovsky.

It's a health thing really.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:58 PM (Jj43a)

500
Data the robot is on Hill Street Blues right now.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 09:58 PM (IDvUO)

501 Speaking of bad movies, I'm watching the riff of 'Avalanche' on the MST3K reboot. One of the better ones, but how can you riff a Rock Hudson movie without a few gay jokes?

Closest thing so far: Another character says of Rock Hudson's character (in film): "He's up to his ass in celebrities."

MST3K's Jonah: "Let's just let that one slide."

Posted by: V the K at July 15, 2017 09:58 PM (jn7FC)

502 Okay, Stalker it is.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 15, 2017 09:58 PM (LTHVh)

503 "My church is this very chapel of democracy that we sit in together..."



I read that as "that we sin in together."

Much better.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 15, 2017 09:59 PM (Id9+8)

504 I actually liked all of the Men In Black movies, although none really felt like it had to be a movie. They felt more like episodes of a good TV show.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 09:59 PM (39g3+)

505 491 For me Connelly's best movie was "Blood Diamond"
Posted by: Ben Had at July 15, 2017 09:56 PM (fZqx4)

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If Connelly and DiCaprio had no roles, I might agree.

It's a Roman a clef done wrong.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 09:59 PM (Jj43a)

506 502. Very wise pick. Amazing film.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 15, 2017 09:59 PM (TwwWO)

507 I liked Tank Girl.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 10:00 PM (s5Kql)

508 473 Only movie I ever walked out on was "Torn Apart".
Horrible.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2017 09:43 PM (5VlCp)

My wife and I walked out on "Zelig". A true waste of celluloid.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF?



My sister and I walked out on Ishtar. Since we were in a multiplex, we casually walked in to Beverly Hills Cop 2.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 10:00 PM (GbzYN)

509 Watched Oldman last night too. "The Fifth Element."

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 15, 2017 10:00 PM (d3wbb)

510 Miley!!!

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 10:00 PM (s5Kql)

511 507. Of course YOU would, wouldn't you?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 15, 2017 10:01 PM (TwwWO)

512 Heh Palp.

Posted by: SMFH at July 15, 2017 10:01 PM (s5Kql)

513 SMFH!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 15, 2017 10:01 PM (Id9+8)

514 I LOVE "The Fifth Element" honestly looking forward to "Valerian."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 15, 2017 10:01 PM (MZcWR)

515 494 Gosset's best movie was Officer and a Gentleman by a long shot.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 09:56 PM (IDPbH)

++++

Agreed.

I didn't care much for Enemy Mine. When at war, you fight the enemy, not look for excuses to form weird relationships.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 15, 2017 10:01 PM (pvjTE)

516 I would have walked out of There Will Be Blood but I convinced myself something interesting was about to happen and just wait for it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 10:01 PM (IDPbH)

517 "Fascist!"

"Hag."

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 15, 2017 10:02 PM (rnAwa)

518 509 Watched Oldman last night too. "The Fifth Element."
Posted by: geoffb5 at July 15, 2017 10:00 PM (d3wbb)


He's playing Churchill in Darkest Hour, and from the trailer, he's just about nailing it.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 10:02 PM (17QyB)

519 Heh....and for those wondering - I look like the 'Professor' in Stalker. Except I've got a proper goatee.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 15, 2017 10:02 PM (TwwWO)

520 Okay, I give up.

You list movies you saw this week and provide their Netflix rating. This suggest to me that you saw them on Netflix.

That must be a wrong assumption. You're watching them on disc or something.

I searched

The World's End
Independence Day: Resurgence
Macbeth

All three are not on Netflix. My Netflix, that is. May I ask what planet you're on watching these films because they're outside my planet Earth Netflix offering.

*flounces off*

Posted by: Chip at July 15, 2017 10:02 PM (KXQr+)

521 Game of Thrones!

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 10:03 PM (pV/54)

522
if No Country For Old Men, Gangs of New York, Titanic, and There Will Be Blood are so great, why do I have absolutely no interest in ever watching them again?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 10:03 PM (IDvUO)

523 Posted by: Chip at July 15, 2017 10:02 PM (KXQr+)

If they're available through old-school DVD Netflix, I think they still get a rating.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 10:03 PM (17QyB)

524
All three are not on Netflix. My Netflix, that is. May I ask what planet you're on watching these films because they're outside my planet Earth Netflix offering.

*flounces off*

Posted by: Chip at July 15, 2017 10:02 PM (KXQr+)








That's because I hate you.

Posted by: Netflix at July 15, 2017 10:04 PM (iFZVz)

525 522
if No Country For Old Men, Gangs of New York, Titanic, and There Will Be Blood are so great, why do I have absolutely no interest in ever watching them again?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 10:03 PM (IDvUO)


I feel *exactly* the same way.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 15, 2017 10:04 PM (17QyB)

526 520 All three are not on Netflix. My Netflix, that is. May I ask what planet you're on watching these films because they're outside my planet Earth Netflix offering.

*flounces off*

Posted by: Chip at July 15, 2017 10:02 PM (KXQr+)

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I own The World's End.

I watched Independence Day Resurgence on HBO.

Macbeth is on Amazon Prime.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 15, 2017 10:05 PM (Jj43a)

527 522
if No Country For Old Men, Gangs of New York, Titanic, and There Will Be Blood are so great, why do I have absolutely no interest in ever watching them again?



Because none of those movies are great? I would say Titanic is a TERRIBLE movie. Who wrote that script? An overwrought teen age girl?

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 10:05 PM (GbzYN)

528 Gangs of New York was a rough one to suffer through.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 15, 2017 10:06 PM (Id9+8)

529 I didn't care much for Enemy Mine. When at war, you fight the enemy, not look for excuses to form weird relationships.

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Oops.

Posted by: Ribbentrop & Molotov at July 15, 2017 10:06 PM (PXj2C)

530
522
if No Country For Old Men, Gangs of New York, Titanic, and There Will Be Blood are so great, why do I have absolutely no interest in ever watching them again?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 10:03 PM (IDvUO)








Awwww, c'mon. Titanic has one of the greatest scenes ever. Leo DiCap suffers a horrible death from hypothermia. Then the hot chick says "I'll never let you go"......before prying his frozen hands off the raft and flinging his body out into the depths.

That's just good entertainment for the whole family.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 10:06 PM (iFZVz)

531 520 Okay, I give up.

You list movies you saw this week and provide their Netflix rating. This suggest to me that you saw them on Netflix.

That must be a wrong assumption. You're watching them on disc or something.

I searched

The World's End
Independence Day: Resurgence
Macbeth

All three are not on Netflix. My Netflix, that is. May I ask what planet you're on watching these films because they're outside my planet Earth Netflix offering.

*flounces off*

Posted by: Chip at July 15, 2017 10:02 PM (KXQr+)

Streaming Netflix doesn't even have ratings anymore, just a "thumbs up/down." The ratings were very useful, helped me decide what to pick. I've heard they ditched the ratings system in response to the abysmal ratings that Amy Schumer's "The Leather Special" was getting.

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 10:06 PM (ANIFC)

532 I would have walked out of There Will Be Blood but I convinced myself something interesting was about to happen and just wait for it.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 10:01 PM (IDPbH)

Paul Thomas Anderson needs to fucking die in a fire. Most pretentious fucking filmmaker ever.

Posted by: Robert at July 15, 2017 10:07 PM (mknWS)

533 528 Gangs of New York was a rough one to suffer through.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 15, 2017 10:06 PM (Id9+

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At least West Side Story had wonderful dancing.

Posted by: Shep Smith at July 15, 2017 10:07 PM (PXj2C)

534 Titanic is a TERRIBLE movie. Who wrote that script? An overwrought teen age girl?

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 10:05 PM (GbzYN)

No, someone who knows how to market]/i] to teenaged girls.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 15, 2017 10:07 PM (Id9+8)

535 522
if No Country For Old Men, Gangs of New York, Titanic, and There Will Be Blood are so great, why do I have absolutely no interest in ever watching them again?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 10:03 PM (IDvUO)

++++

I think the only great movie in your list is No Country for Old Men. The rest would just make my "OK" list. If I come across them and I have nothing better to do, ok, I'll watch again.

But, No Country is a great movie and very rewatchable.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 15, 2017 10:07 PM (FUu/Z)

536 Posted by: Ribbentrop & Molotov

This would make a great sitcom in the style of The Odd Couple.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 10:07 PM (5YBu8)

537 Because none of those movies are great? I would say Titanic is a TERRIBLE movie. Who wrote that script? An overwrought teen age girl?

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 10:05 PM (GbzYN)



I've watched about 10 minutes into that movie and it was pure torture. It was close to vomit inducingly bad

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 15, 2017 10:08 PM (auHtY)

538 Titanic does have Kate Winslet's epic boobies but that still doesn't save the movie. It sucked.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 15, 2017 10:08 PM (GbzYN)

539 I loved "Gangs of New York." I made out with my girlfriend at the time throughout the whole movie.

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 10:08 PM (ANIFC)

540
Posted by: Ribbentrop & Molotov

This would make a great sitcom in the style of The Odd Couple.


and Sacco & Vinzetti, too?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 10:08 PM (IDvUO)

541 Thank God for the close tags!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 15, 2017 10:08 PM (Id9+8)

542 I only enjoyed Titanic for the engine room scenes, that and watching DiCaprio freeze to death!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 15, 2017 10:09 PM (gwPgz)

543 Whenever I channel surf I'll stop for the Titanic scenes of the actual sinking --

I love when that guy falls, hits something and spins off into hyperspace ...

and Kate Winslet's tits

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 10:09 PM (pV/54)

544 In defense of Titanic, it gave us the Plinkett review of Titanic.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 15, 2017 10:09 PM (5YBu8)

545 Leo DiCap suffers a horrible death from hypothermia. Then the hot chick says "I'll never let you go"......before prying his frozen hands off the raft and flinging his body out into the depths.

That's just good entertainment for the whole family.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2017 10:06 PM (iFZVz)

That would be the Leo di Crappio who visited southern Alberta during a Chinook, and quacked about "unprecedented global warming"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2017 10:10 PM (AWYXL)

546 ONT NOOD

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 10:10 PM (ANIFC)

547 Watched Spider-Man with my younger kid this afternoon. Pretty good, overall. There are about two liberal seat-kick moments but the movie's heart is in the right place and the kid playing Spidey is perfect. Keaton as The Vulture is a lot better than the comic book version.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 15, 2017 10:10 PM (KqziQ)

548 521 Game of Thrones!
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2017 10:03 PM (pV/54)

24 hours 'til Game of Thrones!

Posted by: sinalco at July 15, 2017 10:11 PM (yODqO)

549 Except for DiCaprio dying and Ms Winslet's assets - Titanic is pure cinematic cancer. There's not enough pot to overcome the chemo necessary to watch it and survive.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 15, 2017 10:11 PM (TwwWO)

550 Heh. Watching Miss Fisher, the slut with the golden gun.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 10:11 PM (OdK9v)

551 Watched The Reader not long ago. It's the German version of Summer of 42.

Summer of 42 made me fantasize about older women for quite awhile.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 10:13 PM (IDPbH)

552 I loved the 5th element, except for the point at which Milla Perkytits suddenly discovers people are bad and gets the sadz, after scanning the entire internet through the alphabet through the letter V? Dumb, pointless, contrived conflict. R, Rape? Meh, P, pedophilia? Bah. But W for War, that's too much!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 10:13 PM (39g3+)

553 Summer of 42 made me fantasize about older women for quite awhile.


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I read that book in high school. Incredibly masterful at evoking a certain time and place.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 15, 2017 10:16 PM (PXj2C)

554 Streaming Netflix doesn't even have ratings anymore, just a "thumbs up/down." The ratings were very useful, helped me decide what to pick. I've heard they ditched the ratings system in response to the abysmal ratings that Amy Schumer's "The Leather Special" was getting.

Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2017 10:06 PM (ANIFC)


I just dumped Netflix. They have dropped just about every program I originally signed up to watch there (Columbo, Rockford Files, X-Files, etc.) and added nothing but new-fangled garbage.

Posted by: HTL at July 15, 2017 10:17 PM (zl60v)

555 i remember this movie. it was atrociously biased against republicans.

Posted by: Small Rivers at July 15, 2017 10:19 PM (KL5Ns)

556 I think a great topic for the Movie Thread is exactly this:
Movies that you thought were great/were considered great, but you don't ever want to see again or don't care if you see again.

Schindler's List, Forrest Gump, stuff like that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 10:21 PM (39g3+)

557 it would be taking place in the summer of 2007, not 2006.

Posted by: Small Rivers at July 15, 2017 10:21 PM (KL5Ns)

558 Streaming Netflix doesn't even have ratings anymore, just a "thumbs up/down." The ratings were very useful

Still 5 star system for me right now, not sure when that change will happen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 10:25 PM (39g3+)

559
Schindler's List, Forrest Gump, stuff like that.

Ernest Goes To...

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 10:26 PM (IDvUO)

560 Heh. Watching Miss Fisher, the slut with the golden gun.
Posted by: Mike Hammer



Sucks. The production company dicked around for so long, Essie Davis & the others have moved on.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2017 10:27 PM (CeVa5)

561 552,

Yeah, I agree.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 15, 2017 10:28 PM (d3wbb)

562 556 I think a great topic for the Movie Thread is exactly this:
Movies that you thought were great/were considered great, but you don't ever want to see again or don't care if you see again.

Schindler's List, Forrest Gump, stuff like that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 10:21 PM (39g3+)

Ishtar, Water World, Battlefield Earth, Titan AE, Wing Commander.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 15, 2017 10:31 PM (a6Sc2)

563 Nood. ONT up.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2017 10:33 PM (CeVa5)

564
I think a great topic for the Movie Thread is exactly this:

Movies that you thought were great/were considered great, but you don't ever want to see again or don't care if you see again.



Schindler's List, Forrest Gump, stuff like that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2017 10:21 PM (39g3+)

Or movies that you have to watch more than once to fully appreciate them. Like "Bad Santa."

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 15, 2017 10:37 PM (Id9+8)

565 Thread's about gone, but somebody brought up "Enemy Mine" - wanna know why there the boy he has to save is slaving away in a mine at the end, when he is rescued? It wasn't in the original script, but when the writer showed it to the execs, they said "we don't get it. There's no enemy mine anywhere in this script."

He said "no, no, it's a English phrase, it's a literary thing."

The execs said "no, no, we don't get it. Rewrite this and make sure you put an Enemy Mine into it."

And there it is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2017 10:38 PM (V2Yro)

566
The execs said "no, no, we don't get it. Rewrite this and make sure you put an Enemy Mine into it."

Idiots.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 15, 2017 10:40 PM (IDvUO)

567
"Fuck this movie."
That movie was 2000. And it's still playing non-stop. I keep hitting the Reset button but it doesn't do anything.



Posted by: Corona at July 15, 2017 10:56 PM (PsMRi)

568 Re: Magnificent Seven remake

It's good. I was hesitant because I didn't know how they would make Denzel believable as the leader of the group considering the time period they were in. The script writers did an excellent job.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 15, 2017 08:27 PM (IDPbH),

Agreed. The original is one of my favorite movies and I really enjoyed this one, as well. That Chris Pratt... I really like him. I might actually rent Passengers. Might.

Posted by: Gem at July 15, 2017 11:00 PM (uaHyk)

569 305 -- selling options on books can be very lucrative. Rumor has it that Donald Westlake lived on his option money.
Actually having your book made into a movie is not necessarily the wonderful thing you might think it is. From what authors told me during my bookselling years, the actual writer is low man on the totem pole. Max Allan Collins wrote the novel "Purgatory Road", and was allowed on set exactly one time. He wasn't allowed any where near Tom Banks because it would have broken Hanks' concentration. Once you sell your book to Hollywood, Hollywood can do whatever the hell it wants with it. (Just ask Sara Paretsky, who was so appalled by what Hollywood did to her character V.I. Warshawski, she refused to sell a second book to the studio.)

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at July 15, 2017 11:05 PM (lMsBz)

570 Muppets Christmas Carol, QED.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 15, 2017 09:40 PM (PXj2C)

Hey, now. That is actually my favorite version of A Christmas Carol.

Posted by: Gem at July 15, 2017 11:24 PM (uaHyk)

571 At Christmas, we like to watch "Santa's slay."

Posted by: I had a name, but I forgot at July 15, 2017 11:27 PM (jY+fp)

572 John Cusak was in a good political movie about an aide to a Congressman that pretty much does anything and casts anyone aside to get to the top.

Posted by: MAGA at July 16, 2017 12:03 AM (Tyk2V)

573 Ah, True Colors it what I was thinking about.

Posted by: MAGA at July 16, 2017 12:07 AM (Tyk2V)

574 I do not want to see any of these Planet of the Apes movies if I'm supposed to cheer for the apes slaughtering and conquering humanity.

Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 03:10 AM (uaHyk)

575 Thank you thank you! Finally someone else who has seen The Contender and finds it as excruciating as I did. Although I must admit it WAS pretty funny. I haven't seen it in over 10 years and please don't make me watch it again but my 2 favorite bits were where the guy (an aid of some kind?) practically genuflects before the portrait of John Kennedy and when the female military officer salutes The Candidate and says "we need you" or some such and I believe I detected a tear in her eye. Hahaha! My husband was somewhat of the liberal persuasion but I looked over at him and he made the hand motion indicating "gag me with a spoon."

Posted by: Tistock at July 16, 2017 10:46 AM (ijR6N)

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