Lawyer: Nope, Donald Trump Junior Is Not Guilty of an Improper Campaign Solicitation from a Foreign National

A lot of Twitter Lawyers and/or People Who Play Internet Lawyers on Twitter are making the claim that any willingness to accept information from a foreign source is violation of campaign finance laws -- the claim is being made that this is either a solicitation of something "of value" or else a solicitation of an "in-kind" contribution.

A trial lawyer writes at Dan Abrams' Law Newz site that this is just the chatterings of non-lawyers or lawyers yapping outside their fields of actual expertise -- because campaign finance rules specifically permit any foreign national to volunteer services, including, specifically, information. The only forbiddance is that such volunteers cannot be compensated, which would make them non-volunteers.

The Code of Federal Regulations makes the law immunizing Trump Jr.’s actions precisely clear: any foreign national individual may volunteer personal services to a federal candidate or federal political committee without making a contribution. The law provides this volunteer “exemption” as long as the individual performing the service is not compensated by anyone on the campaign. See 11 CFR 100.74. For example, as the Federal Election Commission advises all, “an individual can provide volunteer services to a candidate or party without considering the value of those service a contribution to the candidate or party.” Section 30121 of Title 52 does not apply to voluntary activity or services. The thing “of value” must be actual money, or its transferable equivalent, not a volunteer of services or information.

The Twitter Legal Brigade is big on reading that "of value" caveat expansively, claiming it means pretty much "anything helpful to you." But actual lawyers fluent in the field know it means cash or cash-equivalents, and specifically does not include volunteered services or information.

Otherwise, if volunteering information in coordination with a campaign constituted donations, everyone from John Harwood to Chuck Todd (and maybe all of CNN) made millions in donations to the Hillary campaign, as WikiLeaks emails disclosed.

The hystrionic partisan Jake Tapper is claiming, meanwhile, that these emails demonstrate "collusion" without any possible counterargument. Collusion means "cooperation with a corrupt purpose," and cooperation includes the idea of "working together" or, second definition, "rendering aid."

Trump Jr. did not offer to work with Russians, nor to render them aid. He stands accused of being willing to do what the media does as its daily trade -- listen to a source with possibly interesting information.

The fact that the leftists in the media see this so easily as "collusion" is due to the fact they can only see this from their own vantage point.

Consider: To them, those who voted with all their girlish might for Hillary and who cried when Pennsylvania's votes were counted, of course Trump Jr. must have been acting on behalf of Russia. Their Narrative is that Russia wanted Hillary to lose; ergo, if Trump Jr. is willing to hear information about Hillary that the media would itself cover up, his only motive would be to help Russia.

The "aid" that he would be rendering Russia is only that of beating Hillary, which they assert is Russia's whole Nefarious Scheme.

It doesn't seem to dawn on them that Trump Jr. would have reasons to want to beat Hillary that have noting at all to do with wishing to "help Russia in its scheming."

Jake Tapper plainly wished Hillary would win -- and so did Iran, knowing that Hillary would carry on Obama's pro-Iran-nuke legacy.

Does that mean all the negative stories that Jake Tapper has run on behalf of Hillary means that he was in "collusion with Iran" -- agreeing to cooperate with Iran for a corrupt purpose?

Did he refuse to even mention the Ben Rhodes "Echo Chamber" story so as to further his collusion with Iran?

No, of course not. Iran had an interest in helping Hillary, and Jake Tapper had his own independent interest in helping Hillary. Jake Tapper refused to run the Echo Chamber story, which had the effect of being an "in-kind donation" to Iran, for his own partisan political goals, not specifically to "aid Iran."

This fixation on seeing things only in terms of whether they help or hurt Hillary -- and not, as Trump would see it, whether they help or hurt him -- is the basic psychological defect they have of seeing Donald Trump Junior's mere willingness to receive oppo against his opponent as "collusion with Russia's schemes," rather than rather basic campaign 101 stuff.

Meanwhile, while the media continues huffing and puffing over Trump Junior being willing to hear oppo on Hillary from a foreign national -- and not actually getting to hear it, as she had none -- they continue ignoring completely the fact Democrats did in fact receive oppo from a foreign country against Trump, from Ukraine.

From Politico -- from January. A story that plopped into the news pond and barely made a ripple.

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

If that's legal -- and no one seriously suggested it wasn't -- why can't Trump Jr. listen to some oppo information about his opponent?

By the way, don't answer that with the #ButRussia nonsense. There is no #ButRussia exception in the law. And for those who'd say #ButRussia -- then, #ButIran.

Iran wanted Hillary to win. Those who "colluded" to help Hillary win by publishing claims of Iranian advocacy groups are guilty of colluding with an enemy of America, too.

And also, Ukraine might be America's ally, but foreign nationals all have their own national interests for offering information.

Adnan Chalabi was an unimpeachable patriot for an Iraq free of Saddam Hussein's despotism. He was an "ally."

But this ally infected US intelligence with all sorts of misinformation, and possibly straight-up lies, to get the US to take out Saddam Hussein.

Chalabi was a patriot for his own nation-- but in the end, he was no particular friend of the US'. Certainly he did the US no favors by bringing very fake "informants" to us like CURVEBALL and convincing us Saddam was a threat to us.

A threat to Chalabi's fellow Iraqis, definitely. But he convinced us he was a threat to us as well. As the left pontificated endlessly -- He lied us into war.

So no, I'm not willing to entertain a #ButRussia extra-legal caveat as to why it's fine for DNC officials to sit down with Ukrainian operatives with their own nationalistic agendas but Trump Jr. can't sit down with a Russian lawyer -- just a lawyer -- promising some dirt on Hillary (and turning out to have been yet another con artist who bluffed her way past the door claiming to want to talk about something that interested Don Trump Jr. when actually having only her own agenda to discuss).

And also note that the only thing the liberals seem to find bad about Russia is that they tried to influence this one election. (They've never cared that Russia has been interfering in our politics, on the left's behalf, for decades upon decades.)

Whether the Ukraine is "an ally" or not, they tried to interfere in our election -- which is the only thing CNN can find fault with Russia about.

So: same thing. It's just that the liberals and the NeverTrumpers (a distinction made with decreasing credibility) are angry at Russia for interfering on the wrong side, whereas Ukraine interfered on the right one.

Posted by: Ace at 04:01 PM

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1 Lawyer: Nope, Donald Trump Junior Is Not Guilty of an Improper Campaign Solicitation from a Foreign National

Not the headline you will see on the MSM

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2017 03:52 PM (Ot7+c)

2 1st?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 11, 2017 03:52 PM (KUaJL)

3 First?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2017 03:52 PM (zRoPh)

4 The Twitter Legal Brigade is big on reading that "of value" caveat expansively, claiming it means pretty much "anything helpful to you."

They are also big on claiming getting banned from Trump's personal Twitter account is 1st Amendment censorship.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 03:53 PM (YxyYj)

5 Skiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipppppp!!!!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2017 03:53 PM (zRoPh)

6 Wait, first?, what is going on here?

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2017 03:53 PM (Ot7+c)

7 Another day I'm glad not to be on the Twitters or the Facebooks!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 11, 2017 03:53 PM (ENB12)

8 All this collusion talk, it's a wonder none of them have read or cited "Clinton Cash."

The Clinton Foundation's coordination with Obama's State Dept. would seem to be the quintessential example of collusion with foreign power, no?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2017 03:53 PM (NOIQH)

9 People have been saying over and over that no laws have been broken by any of the Trump family. You can't say the same thing about the scrunt who started this whole mess. She breaks the law more than she breaks wind, and she does that a lot.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2017 03:53 PM (mpXpK)

10 If that's legal -- and no one seriously suggested it wasn't -- why can't Trump Jr. listen to some oppo information about his opponent?
Because Fuck You,that's why!

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 03:54 PM (rmVvL)

11
2 1st?
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No. However, you had plenty of time to be 1st. Sad!

Posted by: RioBravo at July 11, 2017 03:54 PM (SsblQ)

12 How can a Nood be announced then I get here and no one posts anything?

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2017 03:54 PM (Ot7+c)

13 Expecting Democrats to play by the same rules is just...un-American. They've had a pass since LBJ got the...uh, diverse urban community...to vote for Democrats for 200 years.

Posted by: JEM at July 11, 2017 03:54 PM (TppKb)

14 Yep, Nothingburger.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 11, 2017 03:54 PM (3OIiX)

15 My interpretation is that Trump Jr was attempting to ease the restrictions on American adoptions of Russian orphans -- an action that would assist tens of thousands of wanna-be parents here in the USA.

Only the democrats can twist this into something diabolical.

It's what they do. It's who they are.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 11, 2017 03:55 PM (EgwCt)

16 "The hystrionic partisan Jake Tapper is claiming, meanwhile, that these emails demonstrate "collusion" without any possible counterargument. Collusion means "cooperation with a corrupt purpose," and cooperation includes the idea of "working together" or, second definition, "rendering aid.""

Uh, does this mean I can send Jake Tapper an email right now and say "in accordance with what the Saudis would like to see" as a preface to something innocuous and that will make him an Evil Colluder?

Also, is somebody who Plays An Internet Lawyer On Twitter someone who is a failure even at being an Internet Lawyer, let alone a Real Lawyer? Because that's pretty low.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 11, 2017 03:55 PM (eXSOZ)

17 The fact that the leftists in the media see this so easily as "collusion" is due to the fact they can only see this from their own vantage point.

Or they could be just doing what they do best, lying their asses off.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2017 03:55 PM (mpXpK)

18 Why does none of this surprise me. A big nothing burger from a bunch of big nothings. Why PDTS continues to put up with the like of the NYT, WaPo and CNN instead of canking their credentials and banning them from the WH and all press conferences is beyond me.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2017 03:55 PM (zRoPh)

19 Quick Skip, make it a gun thread!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 11, 2017 03:55 PM (3OIiX)

20 Sen. Ron DeSantis strongly opposes feline fecal transplantation.

Posted by: Bull Wynn at July 11, 2017 03:55 PM (vg8iE)

21 Can we all agree that Republican election law guru - the guy who shows up each election cycle - Ben Ginsburg looks like a Gremlin who's been given a snack after midnight?

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Posted by: BumperStickerist at July 11, 2017 03:55 PM (uBKPR)

22 How can a Nood be announced then I get here and no one posts anything?

Because our keyboards are flywheel-driven, they require some time to spin up to the appropriate force level to be able to pull the key down.

Posted by: JEM at July 11, 2017 03:56 PM (TppKb)

23 You know what would take the focus off this Russian crap? DOJ indicting any one of the many Obama/Clinton
law breakers, that's what.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 11, 2017 03:56 PM (mcI77)

24 Did Trump's dirty laundry bag on Hillary have any dead bodies in it, like the Clinton's?

Posted by: Roy at July 11, 2017 03:56 PM (7n4KQ)

25 I loved the way DJT Jr proactively released all the emails. I know other morons have praised it but...man. So cool.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 11, 2017 03:56 PM (3OIiX)

26 we better wait for the law expert at fox news sheppy butt stuff smiths' take on this.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 11, 2017 03:56 PM (KP5rU)

27 why can't Trump Jr. listen to some oppo information about his opponent?
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The question answers itself. There can be no legitimate opposition.

Posted by: Dem/Lib/Left/Prog at July 11, 2017 03:56 PM (OdK9v)

28 I want Bill Wynn's take on this.

Not really.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 11, 2017 03:56 PM (GGC8H)

29 Wow,just saw in the credits to a show a guy named Ben Bone.What an outstanding porn name!

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 03:56 PM (rmVvL)

30 25 I loved the way DJT Jr proactively released all the emails.

The equivalent of dropping trou in a presser.

Posted by: Roy at July 11, 2017 03:57 PM (7n4KQ)

31 Never happen. That would require some balls, and the repuke balls are safely locked away in Nancy's cupboard.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at July 11, 2017 03:57 PM (JZJ9v)

32 The equivalent of dropping trou in a presser.
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**swoons**

Posted by: Shep! at July 11, 2017 03:57 PM (vg8iE)

33 Because our keyboards are flywheel-driven, they require some time to spin up to the appropriate force level to be able to pull the key down.
Posted by: JEM
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We patented that.

Posted by: IBM Selectric at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (OdK9v)

34 Discussions were more about adoption restrictions wasn't it? Even the lawyer who brokered the meeting said that on record. WTF are these media idiots going on about? Gah, they are utterly despicable.

Posted by: IC at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (a0IVu)

35 *Trump Jr. did not offer to work with Russians, nor to render them aid. He stands accused of being willing to do what the media does as its daily trade -- listen to a source with possibly interesting information.*

To be accurate, if DJT, Jr's source was anonymous, then it woud be what the media does on a daily basis.

Posted by: tbodie at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (TUUTu)

36

Gabe Malor is making this "info as contributions" claim

Posted by: ThunderB at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (hPBW1)

37 Never happen. That would require some balls, and the repuke balls are safely locked away in Nancy's cupboard.
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Oh, so that's what those were! I thought that was mouse shit and vacuumed it up.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (vg8iE)

38 old and busted: Bill Wynn

the new hotness: Paolo's son

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (4Tfcx)

39 Once again, CNN legal expert Lionel Hutz returns to discuss this recurring issue with us. Lionel, welcome back...

Posted by: This...is CNN at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (qJhUV)

40 20 I don't know why,but that made me laugh like a loon...

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 03:59 PM (rmVvL)

41 How can a Nood be announced then I get here and no one posts anything?

Some read the post.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 03:59 PM (YxyYj)

42 Never happen. That would require some balls, and the repuke balls are safely locked away in Nancy's cupboard.
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So, we're back to prostates, eh?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2017 03:59 PM (OdK9v)

43 Surely some of these media shits remember how Barky's 2008 campaign website made absolutely no attempt to prevent foreign credit card donations to El Fuckstick's campaign.

An actual crime.

Posted by: where was Tapper then? at July 11, 2017 04:00 PM (+INtM)

44 36 Gabe can go suck Shep Smith's dick.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 04:00 PM (rmVvL)

45 Gabe Malor is making this "info as contributions" claim

Posted by: ThunderB at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (hPBW1)
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Well, put me in the shocked column.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 11, 2017 04:00 PM (SsblQ)

46 I think the buried lede here is that the Dims (my name for the unholy alliance between the Democrats and the media) keep coming back to the Russia well over and over again, even though the water is sterile and brackish everytime they do so. They literally have nothing else to talk about to distract the hoi polloi from Trump's accomplishments or Democratic obstruction, and so we have to have these Russia stories waved at us day after day.

It's as though all these media and communication experts have no idea what fatigue is. The American people got fatigued by World War II, for crying out loud (that's why the Iwo Jima flag photo was hyped so much - to reinvigorate patriotism). If people more serious than our generation could get tired of a huge world crisis, won't easily distracted smartphone addicts have tired of nothing-burgers a long time ago? The Dims seem oblivious to this.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 11, 2017 04:00 PM (PMt8D)

47 And a little praise: good job Ace. I appreciate you digging into this and talking about it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 11, 2017 04:00 PM (3OIiX)

48 What's the Russian equivalent of Kinko's Copy Center ... this story needs an unnamed offiicial trying to influence an election involving a Kinko's

Posted by: BumperStickerist at July 11, 2017 04:00 PM (uBKPR)

49 So, Hillary recognized the value of the "grab her pussy" tape, which just happened in conjunction w the fat Miss Universe reference during the debate?

Posted by: ever at July 11, 2017 04:00 PM (QZdJj)

50 41 Noobs

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 04:00 PM (rmVvL)

51 Gabe Malor is making this "info as contributions" claim
Posted by: ThunderB at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (hPBW1)

That matches my usual rule of thumb of 'Gabe is wrong about everything'. It's right more often than it's proven wrong.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (3OIiX)

52 "By the way, don't answer that with the #ButRussia nonsense. There is no #ButRussia exception in the law. And for those who'd say #ButRussia --
then, #ButIran."

Funny also how we haven't heard any #ButSaudiArabia interjections, even though one of the princelings let it slip that the House of Saud had bankrolled something on the order of twenty percent of the hugely costly Clinton 2016 campaign.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (ujwCG)

53 Damn. Looks like an early night after all.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (34E+f)

54

Then Gabe claimed its prrof of conspiracy, attempt, and soliciting

I asked of what. What is the underlying offense that is required

He ignored me

Posted by: ThunderB at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (hPBW1)

55 Is nothingburger on the menu at David Brooks' favorite restaurant?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (IqV8l)

56 This is going to be the pick up that the MSM needs to keep the Russian connection story going, and going, and going.

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2017 04:02 PM (Ot7+c)

57 Hillary recognized the value of the "grab her pussy" tape
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I always have recognized the value in grabbing pussy.

Posted by: Hillary at July 11, 2017 04:02 PM (vg8iE)

58 Who is the GOP candidate that started the whole Fusion GPS involvement? Katshit? Who else was left in the campaign then besides he and Cruz?

Posted by: ever at July 11, 2017 04:02 PM (QZdJj)

59 THE CATERPILLAR IS EN MARCHE

Posted by: Boiled Wine at July 11, 2017 04:02 PM (eXSOZ)

60 52 Funny also how we haven't heard any #ButSaudiArabia
interjections, even though one of the princelings let it slip that the
House of Saud had bankrolled something on the order of twenty percent of
the hugely costly Clinton 2016 campaign.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (ujwCG)

And that is illegal since they run the country.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2017 04:02 PM (mpXpK)

61 Discussions were more about adoption restrictions wasn't it? Even the lawyer who brokered the meeting said that on record. WTF are these media idiots going on about? Gah, they are utterly despicable.

Posted by: IC at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (a0IVu)

Anyone who spent ten minutes on the internet doing 'due diligence' prior to a meeting with this person would know that Russian adoptions was the carrot that the Russians were going to hold forth.

It's that simple. I mean really. It is that simple.

Only the twisted fucks in our media can take this and spin it any other way.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 11, 2017 04:03 PM (EgwCt)

62 El senor Timoteo Kaine dice que es traicion!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 11, 2017 04:03 PM (ENB12)

63 By the way, don't answer that with the #ButRussia nonsense.

OK then. #ButtStuffia?

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2017 04:03 PM (HgMAr)

64 Funny also how we haven't heard any #ButSaudiArabia
interjections, even though one of the princelings let it slip that the
House of Saud had bankrolled something on the order of twenty percent of
the hugely costly Clinton 2016 campaign.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (ujwCG)

And that is illegal since they run the country.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 11, 2017 04:02 PM (mpXpK)

Ok, no #ButtSaudi stuff. That's the previous threads.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 11, 2017 04:03 PM (3OIiX)

65 If the MSM is so hot to make a case for colluding with the enemy, lets have that discussion. Lets talk about the loads of cash and the Iranian missile 'treaty'. In fact, lets just put it all out there for public dissemination and digestion. Let's talk about Skankles delivery of our uranium to Vlad in exchange for graft. Let's have that discussion and then lets let the chips fall.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2017 04:03 PM (zRoPh)

66 And why would the Eukropians be helping Felonia von Pantsuit, a/k/a Madame Maomu?

Kiev junta installed by her state department with Soros backing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 11, 2017 04:04 PM (TwwWO)

67 And can you believe those bastards had the balls to personally release the emails and not go through the press like the rules specifically called for?

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 11, 2017 04:04 PM (34E+f)

68 Is nothingburger on the menu at David Brooks' favorite restaurant?
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Topped with a sumptuous brown buttered mango coulis.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 11, 2017 04:04 PM (vg8iE)

69 Is nothingburger on the menu at David Brooks' favorite restaurant?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (IqV8l)

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No. Carne di bue a nulla is though.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 11, 2017 04:04 PM (SsblQ)

70 The hystrionic partisan Jake Tapper is claiming, meanwhile, that these emails demonstrate "collusion" without any possible counterargument. Collusion means "cooperation with a corrupt purpose," and cooperation includes the idea of "working together" or, second definition, "rendering aid."

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collusion is not a crime. it's just a word the left has settled on this time around because it sounds scary enough and legal-ish.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 04:04 PM (AU4SY)

71 >>>Gabe Malor is making this "info as contributions" claim

Dude the butt stuff was two threads ago.

Posted by: wooga at July 11, 2017 04:04 PM (lOJ7h)

72 >>I loved the way DJT Jr proactively released all the emails.

I know that the Trumps are new to how DC works, but they've been doing business in NYC (and playing with the local media) for decades and do not suffer fools gladly.

Love how the MSM keeps getting pwned by people they believe are inferior to their wicked-smaht, worldy selves. The Trumps keep winning these skirmishes because the MSM assume they will behave like every other GOP politician.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2017 04:04 PM (NOIQH)

73 >>>Russian adoptions was the carrot

Are we still talking about butt stuff?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 11, 2017 04:04 PM (ENB12)

74 So let's see...which of these two sounds like treason...

Talking to a national from a country that has worked with the US on anti-terrorism but is a strategic adversary

or

Giving $2B to a country to develop nuclear weapons even though they have murdered American citizens and publicly claim that they wish to destroy the United States?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2017 04:05 PM (eSx+E)

75 Natalia, the Russian former prosecutor was working w Baker Hostetler (sp.) Are they linked to Hillary or any Obama minions?

Posted by: ever at July 11, 2017 04:05 PM (QZdJj)

76 Another take from LegalInsurrection
https://tinyurl.com/ybyneqtn

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2017 04:05 PM (Ot7+c)

77 Brooks's nothing burger is topped with pomodoros to keep the trashy high school drop outs from eating his worldly cuisine.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 11, 2017 04:05 PM (GGC8H)

78 Are we still talking about butt stuff?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 11, 2017 04:04 PM (ENB12)

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*doe eyes*
*blinks lashes*

Always.

Posted by: Winona at July 11, 2017 04:05 PM (8XRCm)

79 499 Trump needs like 80% of the people voting after work. The odds for Trump are looking pretty slim right now.
Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (QPfiT)

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 04:06 PM (ul9CR)

80 I have a "violation of campaign finance laws" observation for ya: When the media is 90+ fucking % in the tank for one of the two parties in an election, does that perhaps constitute "violation of campaign finance laws" in the sense of making unreported campaign contributions to one of the Party's? Hmmm? (I know I'm not a lawyer and I'm sure someone could split legal hairs with me all day long on this but I think we passed the point of the law meaning anything a little while back, donchathink?).

Evan Thomas (of Newsweek I believe) stated that media bias/support was worth 15% points in elections to the Democrats. And he said this back in 2004, when the mask of objectivity was still partially on (with the exception of lying propagandist Dan Rather). Lacking that 15% bump Democrats don't get elected to fucking dogcatcher anywhere in this country.

D'Nesh D'Sousa went to jail for giving a friend $20K for her failed Senate run. But the heads of all the networks are walking around without a care in the world while their companies poison our information stream on a daily basis.

This is most definitely not the country I grew up in.

And for anyone that's in any doubt - we lost the Cold War. The Soviet Union fell but they infected us with their Marxist totalitarian mindset. We are soon to find out whether the infection is fatal, but the prognosis doesn't look good.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 11, 2017 04:06 PM (bb4ns)

81 Thanks Ace. I've been trying to figure out why I should care about this... I know its only another opinion but I just can't jump to the "morally reprehensible" stage when I look at politics... the those who suddenly found morality, I say its politics not beanbag. Show me a CRIME, then I may care. I only say may, but cause if its one of those lied about a crime you didn't actually do things like Scotter Libby, I'm probably not going to care either.

Posted by: Inogame at July 11, 2017 04:06 PM (ySZHT)

82 Gabe is the Glenn Beck of blogdom.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 11, 2017 04:06 PM (Mouru)

83 55 Is nothingburger on the menu at David Brooks' favorite restaurant?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (IqV8l)

Just Pizza, like the name says

Posted by: Comet Pizza at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (7HtZB)

84 >>>OK then. #ButtStuffia?

#ButtStuffenia

Not to be confused with #ButtStuffokia

Posted by: wooga at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (lOJ7h)

85 and hey, the #ButRussia thing is weird since obama mocked Romney for "hey, the cold war's been over 20 years" not to mention:

1. Clinton Foundation and uranium sales
2. reset button
3. more flexibility after election.

I fear the right is trying to talk sense to lefties on this subject when only mocking will do. That, and vigorous criminal counter-investigations of hillary and podesta.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (AU4SY)

86 Gabe Malor is making this "info as contributions" claim

Posted by: ThunderB at July 11, 2017 03:58 PM (hPBW1)

He also wanted a token baby to adopt and candidly mentioned it here.

He left here shortly after the Russians slammed that door shut and bolted it, then welded it tightly closed.

Not a fan.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (EgwCt)

87 House of Saud had bankrolled something on the order of twenty percent of

the hugely costly Clinton 2016 campaign.

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Interestingly, we've yet to get verification as to whether he funded Hillary's campaign, as he publicly claimed, or not, but we DO know that Saudi Arabia gave the Clinton foundation $25M.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (eSx+E)

88 The DNC worked with Fusion to prepare opposition research. They utilized a number of Russian contacts as well as a British national. WTF? Where is the outrage about foreign influence?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (yBGSs)

89

There is no underlying crime

None

Posted by: ThunderB at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (hPBW1)

90 If that's legal -- and no one seriously suggested it wasn't -- why can't Trump Jr. listen to some oppo information about his opponent?

Because it was illegal and Unconstitutional for Hillary to lose. Because Reasons.

Honestly, all of this is explicable, if insane, when viewed through the prism that being a Republican is per se illegal.

Posted by: alexthechick - my will to power? so much bigger at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (mf5HN)

91 I know how he should handle this...

If the media asks Donald Jr. if he and the Russians were friends, he should say "No, we were GOOD friends". When they ask if Donald Jr. was good friends with the Russians, he should say "No, we were LIFE LONG friends".

See, they would have no place to go.

Well, it works in the Clancy novels.

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (Zs4uk)

92 Wasn't that dossier CNN and Buzzfeed published put together by a foreign national? Makes them all traitors, no?

Posted by: gm at July 11, 2017 04:08 PM (6Yw+T)

93 I'm not even sure this will have any negative political impact. Do voters care? Sometimes I think we're in a new world where the MSM spin no longer matters.

Posted by: Maxwell at July 11, 2017 04:08 PM (xUJrd)

94 Honestly, all of this is explicable, if insane, when viewed through the prism that being a Republican is per se illegal.

**

now you're getting it.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 04:08 PM (AU4SY)

95 This pretty much blows up Ed Morrisey's hyperventilating

Thank you!

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 11, 2017 04:08 PM (Nyivx)

96 Are we still talking about butt stuff?

If Natalia does we are.

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2017 04:09 PM (Ot7+c)

97 Are these the same Twitter lawyers who posit if I tripped and my dick actually went in a woman it isn't really rape?

You know, based on their reading of the law.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2017 04:09 PM (TE03o)

98 The thing of value must be actual money, or its transferable equivalent, not a volunteer of services or information

So when Obama's campaign, not once but twice disabled the AVS (Address Verification System) t o receive illegal contributions, perfectly OK!

Junior doing oppo research, string him up!

MFM double standards at its finest.

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at July 11, 2017 04:09 PM (6ksbU)

99
I never saw any outrage from GM when members of the gay community were abusing the ever-living-hell out of adopted Russian infants and children.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 11, 2017 04:09 PM (EgwCt)

100 Stripping away who and what...

If a foreign national tells you they have evidence of wrong doing by a high level American government official should you:

1) Listen to them and forward the information to the appropriate authorities if warrented.
2) Stick your hands and your ears and yell Na-na-na-na-na

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2017 04:09 PM (eSx+E)

101 >>>*doe eyes*
*blinks lashes*

Always.

OMGOMGOMGOMGO GOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

***passes out***

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 11, 2017 04:09 PM (ENB12)

102 He also wanted a token baby to adopt and candidly mentioned it here.

He left here shortly after the Russians slammed that door shut and bolted it, then welded it tightly closed.

Not a fan.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (EgwCt)
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Not to mention the endless, condescending preaching about gay marriage and how dare anyone oppose it for any fucking reason?!?!?!?!!!11!!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 11, 2017 04:09 PM (vg8iE)

103 Because it was illegal and Unconstitutional for Hillary to lose. Because Reasons.

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We are being led by, and the country run by people who think, act, and reason like toddlers.

Posted by: Winona at July 11, 2017 04:09 PM (8XRCm)

104 It should be painfully clear to anyone with a functioning brain, that the media is completely out of its collective mind.

This is to say, anyone who voted for Hillary does not have a functioning brain.

Posted by: simplemind at July 11, 2017 04:09 PM (Dg43P)

105 By the way, don't answer that with the #ButRussia nonsense. There is no #ButRussia exception in the law. And for those who'd say #ButRussia -- then, #ButIran.
==========================

I go right to the #ButtHurt exception.

Hillary lost, and the Democrat operatives with bylines are irrationally upset about it.

Posted by: Koko, the sign-language speaking anti-mangorilla splainer at July 11, 2017 04:10 PM (ylUqT)

106 We've decided Russian adoptions are why the (D)s want a nuclear war with them, right?

Once they realized what was happening and stopped letting The Gays pretend to be normal families using Russian babies, the (D)s saw them as their enemy.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 11, 2017 04:10 PM (34E+f)

107 Funny also how we haven't heard any #ButSaudiArabia interjections, even though one of the princelings let it slip that the House of Saud had bankrolled something on the order of twenty percent of the hugely costly Clinton 2016 campaign.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (ujwCG)

Meh. That's not news.

Posted by: This Is CNN at July 11, 2017 04:10 PM (Mouru)

108 Some on Twitter are being "reasonable" and saying "even if it wasn't illegal, I'm shocked, shocked to find that DT, Jr. would take this meeting".

Was it a really awesome totally wonderful thing to do?

Meh.

It's not even worse than the stuff we know Hillary and Obama did! Let alone the stuff we don't know about.

Of course, then the response is "but we should be better than absolute slime" which isn't wrong. But agreeing to go to one meeting is so bleeping minor.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 11, 2017 04:10 PM (wwL6Q)

109 Sorry for an early OT but I had a job interview today which is why I've been absent from the HQ since late this morning. As with all the others, I think it went all right but you just can't ever tell. I'll keep y'all posted.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:10 PM (0mRoj)

110 91 I know how he should handle this...

If the media asks Donald Jr. if he and the Russians were friends, he should say "No, we were GOOD friends". When they ask if Donald Jr. was good friends with the Russians, he should say "No, we were LIFE LONG friends".

See, they would have no place to go.

Well, it works in the Clancy novels.
Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2017 04:07 PM (Zs4uk)

I bet the IRA gal in "Patriot Games" did butt stuff.

Posted by: josephistan at July 11, 2017 04:11 PM (7HtZB)

111 If you consider that this is an operation to create an irresistible enticement to the leftists in the United States to utterly expose their own illegal acts--then this operation is going on as an unqualified success.

They are so busy going on in such detail about how Trump, and everyone associated with him, have committed crimes, they are completely blind to the chains they are binding to themselves.

I'm going to enjoy the part where it is revealed that a member of the media received information from a foreign national and discretely passed it on to a Dem--in exchange for future access (and possibly money).

You know, the leftists favorite activity--laundering.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 11, 2017 04:11 PM (W1XyZ)

112 But David French at NRO told us this shows collusionand criminality!

Posted by: Tommy Shanks at July 11, 2017 04:11 PM (QUDRc)

113 You have to think at this point they know failure is inevitable and they really don't believe their own bullshit. They are just trying to keep bullshit on the front page to distract the administration and people from any accomplishments.

That's why I believe the average person is really getting aggravated about this nonsense. They know it's nothing but politics.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2017 04:11 PM (TE03o)

114 Sorry for an early OT but I had a job interview today which is why I've been absent from the HQ since late this morning. As with all the others, I think it went all right but you just can't ever tell. I'll keep y'all posted.
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Congrats and good luck.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 11, 2017 04:11 PM (vg8iE)

115 I'll keep y'all posted.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:10 PM (0mRoj)

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Best o luck, dude.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 11, 2017 04:11 PM (8XRCm)

116 The DNC worked with Fusion to prepare opposition research. They utilized a number of Russian contacts as well as a British national. WTF? Where is the outrage about foreign influence?
--

It's not a problem, because were are on the side of Good, and we were trying to stop Evil. So really, we should be applauded for all of our efforts both legal and otherwise.

You're welcome @ssholes.

Posted by: the MSM and Libtards Everywhere at July 11, 2017 04:11 PM (aT+Bx)

117 Good luck insomniac!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 04:11 PM (ul9CR)

118 Not to mention the endless, condescending preaching about gay marriage
and how dare anyone oppose it for any fucking reason?!?!?!?!!!11!!
***
I remember when he told us that Gay Marriage would have no effects on anyone besides the grooms or brides, none, unequivocally.

The afterwards when the government went after bakers and photographers he opined that of course the government has a vested interest in stopping discrimination!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2017 04:12 PM (eSx+E)

119 Oh FFS, ace.

Saddam's regime was an uncontainable, intolerable threat to us (in the post-9/11 world) for objective, obvious, public reasons that neither Chalabi nor anyone else had any special info about.

As anyone paying attention to Iraq since the 1980s would know - without any special or inside info. Though one would, as for any important issue, have to go far beyond the NPR-level cartoon that most people use in place of understanding.

It was, get this, pre-emptive action - though any future attempts to harm us would have been a continuation of a long chain, not something actually new.

Though of course everything you say about this ludicrous non-topic of "Russia!" is correct.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2017 04:12 PM (QDnY+)

120 Good luck Insomniac!

Posted by: shibumi at July 11, 2017 04:12 PM (aT+Bx)

121 I'm kind of okay with the info-as-contributions discussion. Like LGoPs points out above, let's talk about the media accordingly.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 11, 2017 04:13 PM (34E+f)

122 Once they realized what was happening and stopped letting The Gays pretend to be normal families using Russian babies, the (D)s saw them as their enemy.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 11, 2017 04:10 PM (34E+f)

Truth be told, they named the tit-for-tat legislation that ultimately ended Russian adoptions because of a hetero family. Husband was supposed to drop infant off at daycare. Instead left said child in automobile for nine fucking hours.

Husband skated.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 11, 2017 04:13 PM (EgwCt)

123 118 And the he told us the "slippery slope" was a myth.Oh geeze,moar butt sex....

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 04:13 PM (rmVvL)

124 107 Funny also how we haven't heard any #ButSaudiArabia interjections, even though one of the princelings let it slip that the House of Saud had bankrolled something on the order of twenty percent of the hugely costly Clinton 2016 campaign.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 11, 2017 04:01 PM (ujwCG)

Meh. That's not news.
Posted by: This Is CNN

****

meh, we can't make an issue of this because by besmirching the integrity and moral standing of a major political party would drive the moderates away from the GOP into a life of mountain based guerilla warfare anti-capitalist tribalism.

XXOO

the GOP brainsquad, wondering why you don't underrstand strength through surrender,

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 04:13 PM (AU4SY)

125 Thanks gang. It will probably be a few weeks before I hear anything.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:13 PM (0mRoj)

126 Remember Obama and the lack of credit card security features?

What was that, if not a way to get foreign influence into an election??

So yeah, this little meeting is the smallest of small crap.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 11, 2017 04:13 PM (wwL6Q)

127 Prayed for you, Insomniac. Here's to conquering a hurdle, amigo!

*raises glass*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 11, 2017 04:14 PM (6gk0M)

128 You might believe for comparative purposes, a real journalist would go back and factually understand what the last administration did.

Just thinking out loud here, Jake, you fucking Dunce.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2017 04:14 PM (TE03o)

129 Posted by: RoyalOil at July 11, 2017 04:11 PM (W1XyZ)

I don't see that as an effective strategy with those fuck knuckles. Maybe if they were intellectually honest. If it weren't for double standards, the left would have none.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2017 04:14 PM (zRoPh)

130 Good luck Insomniac! First contract work and then some good news from job interviews..keeping positive thoughts for you.

Posted by: IC at July 11, 2017 04:14 PM (a0IVu)

131 I've seen my lib friends react to news that trump admin reached out to russia for help with iran AFTER the election and their responses were near insanity.

They are not ok. They have been programmed by clinton hq and this is their current jihad.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 04:15 PM (AU4SY)

132 Saddam's regime was an uncontainable, intolerable threat to us (in the
post-9/11 world) for objective, obvious, public reasons that neither
Chalabi nor anyone else had any special info about.
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In an alternate history, where AQ sets up shop in Iraq in 2003/4, Bush 43 is impeached for allowing AQ to escape Afghanistan and doing nothing when Hussein "loses" his chemical weapons to them and they are used in Europe or the US.

Note: Saddam Hussein still had chemical weapons that we found during the Iraq war. The official reports noted them.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2017 04:15 PM (eSx+E)

133
Where is Gabe pontificating these days??

Posted by: fixerupper at July 11, 2017 04:15 PM (8XRCm)

134 I loved the way DJT Jr proactively released all the emails. I know other morons have praised it but...man. So cool.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

What gets major people in trouble (such as...Richard Milhous Nixon) was not the crime, but the coverup.

So Donald Jr. has gotten it all out there, and there will be a furor until Saturday, and then they will all go home for drinks and drugs until Monday morning.

Something else will come along next week to fuel the "rage". They will keep a subset of the Democrat party fired up about this continuously. It will like gnosis to them; secret, special knowledge of the true hidden workings of the world. And of course, it all hinges on Donald Trump's IRS returns, which would show the Russia collusion. Es Pravda!!

This is what the Suits at the networks have decided to do as policy, and little marionettes like Tapper, are dancing to the jig.

Jake Tapper, Team CNN.

Fuck yeah!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 11, 2017 04:15 PM (RFeQD)

135 So the proof of Trump colluding with Russia includes Trump's son telling a Russian to "get the hell out of my office."

So Trump telling the Russians to f***off is proof that engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the Russia to hack the DNC servers?

Posted by: MAGA at July 11, 2017 04:15 PM (B+Arn)

136 Remember during he Clinton campaign All that Chinese money flowing in?

No? You don't?

Well apparently the media didn't care either. Because democrats!

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2017 04:15 PM (TE03o)

137 It must be frustrating t wait a few weeks before you hear, Insomniac. Will continue to keep you in prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2017 04:16 PM (iVOAv)

138 Well, well... it appears the russia humpers are not going to go gently into the Great Abyss of Irrelevance.

The clowntards are scraping the bottom of the barrel pretty hard at this point. I await with great anticipation the pushback to come in the next couple weeks from Trumposaurus Weasel. It will be.... dee lish yus.

Posted by: Twin Cities Daydrunk, pointing and laughing. at July 11, 2017 04:16 PM (1aMQH)

139 "The fact that the leftists in the media see this so easily as "collusion" is due to the fact they can only see this from their own vantage point."

Sooooo close. The reason the media is freaking out about this and shouting "Collusion!" is because that's exactly what they do. Remember CNN's Eason Jordan? "Hey Saddam, we'd really like to have a news beurau in Bahgdad. What's that? No reporting on human rights violations? That's fine with us!" They trade favors for access all the time. They cannot imagine anyone doing otherwise.

Posted by: JSchuler at July 11, 2017 04:16 PM (YsGL+)

140 THE CATERPILLAR IS EN MARCHE
Posted by: Boiled Wine
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*mulls this over*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2017 04:16 PM (OdK9v)

141
I'm gonna take a walk and cool off. The topic of GM, abused infants, and media lies is a little too much for me.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 11, 2017 04:17 PM (EgwCt)

142 (Average American Man, dressed in khakis and pith helmet, emerges from a thicket, having hacked his way through the weeds with a machete.)

"The media has led us into the tall grass yet again, Margaret! That's it -- I quit! Pack your bags -- this safari into Progressive Narrative Land is over!"

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2017 04:17 PM (DQ4Fv)

143 Is 'collusion' a dog whistle?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2017 04:17 PM (OdK9v)

144 Its either talk about Russia, or cover actual news, like Trump giving a successful speech in Poland.

Posted by: simplemind at July 11, 2017 04:17 PM (24z1X)

145 Gee. No mention of the Democrats opposition research and the "Pee Pee Dossier".

How odd ;-/

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2017 04:18 PM (TE03o)

146 They will keep a subset of the Democrat party fired up about this continuously. It will like gnosis to them; secret, special knowledge of the true hidden workings of the world

That is a good analogy-"gnosis"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2017 04:19 PM (iVOAv)

147 Note: Saddam Hussein still had chemical weapons that we found during the Iraq war. The official reports noted them.

Yeah its one of those "all the kool kids say" thing to attack Bush over Iraq now, so it will probably be a generation before people look back at it and say "you know, Bush had a point..."

When McCarthy fell, the lest cool thing in the world was to point out that while his tactics stunk and he was an opportunist that there really was a Communist infiltration problem. It takes time for the narrative to die out, but its depressing so many people who ought to know better are gulping down the left's Kool Ade on this so readily.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:19 PM (39g3+)

148 OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

Trump asked for a lawyer. He's taking the fifth. Everyone knows that means he's guilty!!11!!!11!!

We got him now!!11!!!11!!

OMGOMGOMGOMG
OMGOMGOMGOMG

Posted by: Chris Clitzilla - News Fabricator CNN at July 11, 2017 04:19 PM (87O69)

149 @Insomniac

Woo! Fingers crossed for ya, man.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 11, 2017 04:20 PM (3OIiX)

150 136 Remember during he Clinton campaign All that Chinese money flowing in?

No? You don't?

Well apparently the media didn't care either. Because democrats!
Posted by: Marcus T

Remember when the 2008 Obama campaign was almost entirely financed with online credit-card donations from unknown countries, since the campaign deliberately (and illegally) deleted all nation-of-origin database info?

Ah yes, what a grand scandal that was.

/s

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2017 04:20 PM (DQ4Fv)

151 Have we even hit the 24hr Mark on this story yet?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 11, 2017 04:20 PM (GhqvW)

152 >>>>> THE CATERPILLAR IS EN MARCHE

Posted by: Boiled Wine

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*mulls this over*
.
.
.John has a long mustache.

The penguins are under the bed, repeat, under the bed. They are not in the refrigerator.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 11, 2017 04:20 PM (0pcwX)

153 Conspiracy to commit ThoughtCrimes in the First Degree.

Associating with known ThoughtCriminals.

Committing WrongThink via Social Media.

The Talking Thumb is not pleased with the spawn of Trump, and there will be consequences...

Posted by: Brian Stelter Brothers Orchestra at July 11, 2017 04:20 PM (EVi2J)

154 Insomniac, good news! And good luck!!!

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 11, 2017 04:21 PM (2VN2E)

155 Adam Schiff, (with shit on both his shoes), comes out to tell us about Republicans walking around a pasture.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 11, 2017 04:21 PM (6gk0M)

156 Collusion with the intelligence Organsof our enemy ?
It only took ace 10 hours to find even this disclaimer

Posted by: Your son at July 11, 2017 04:22 PM (iKg/J)

157 That is a good analogy-"gnosis"/i]

I agree, it makes them feel special, elite, informed, and enlightened. But it also gives them cover.

If President Trump is the monster they say he is, then their reaction is reasonable: I'd fight this hard or harder to stop Pol Pot or Napoleon from reaching high office, lets say. But if he's not, if President Trump is not the monster they claim, then their actions are at best insane.

And they need this cover to justify their attitude and actions. Its okay to burn and crash and revolt against a monster. Its lunatic, or even treasonous to do so against a fellow American you just disagree with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:22 PM (39g3+)

158 @8
All this collusion talk, it's a wonder none of them have read or cited "Clinton Cash."

The Clinton Foundation's coordination with Obama's State Dept. would seem to be the quintessential example of collusion with foreign power, no? Lizzy
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Yes x 1000 yes.
And if there were even a pale imitation of a Newt in present Congressional leadership this drum should be pounded: Every. Freaking. Day.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 11, 2017 04:22 PM (QtQaN)

159 Interesting article on ZeroHedge re: Trump being isolated from the other G20 nations.

The concensus is... Trump is moral and correct in his assertions.

/eff off Eurofags!

Posted by: shibumi at July 11, 2017 04:22 PM (aT+Bx)

160 I can't stand the rush to the feinting couches by the same people who pushed the infamous british dossier.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 11, 2017 04:22 PM (t06LC)

161 Dems: There oughta be a ex-post-facto law!

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2017 04:22 PM (2mC6G)

162 Lest we forget...

Something remarkable happened at 44 Henry St., a grimy Chinatown tenement with peeling walls. It also happened nearby at a dimly lighted apartment building with trash bins clustered by the front door.

And again not too far away, at 88 E. Broadway beneath the Manhattan bridge, where vendors chatter in Mandarin and Fujianese as they hawk rubber sandals and bargain-basement clothes.

All three locations, along with scores of others scattered throughout some of the poorest Chinese neighborhoods in Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx, have been swept by an extraordinary impulse to shower money on one particular presidential candidate -- Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Dishwashers, waiters and others whose jobs and dilapidated home addresses seem to make them unpromising targets for political fundraisers are pouring $1,000 and $2,000 contributions into Clinton's campaign treasury. In April, a single fundraiser in an area long known for its gritty urban poverty yielded a whopping $380,000.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ya6l5cav

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 04:22 PM (ul9CR)

163 Oh and exactly who is the Russian Crown Prosecutor? Didn't they toss the Tzar out quite some time ago?

I smell a Red herring in that email.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 11, 2017 04:23 PM (0pcwX)

164 I like this expansive definition. If they are serious, we can jail all of them.

Posted by: kraki at July 11, 2017 04:23 PM (TNa9O)

165 As an interesting point to ponder...

Putin has done some terrible things, like murder opposition figures...but during the 2010s Obama was arming ISIS. And when Obama's minions in Syria shot down a Russian plane and executed the pilot in cold blood, it was Putin that stopped the drive to war over it, that would have pitted Turkey, the US, and ISIS against Russia and Assad.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2017 04:24 PM (eSx+E)

166 You know if the shoe was on the other foot a beleaguered Democrat President would be on TV saying that "He needed to get back to fighting for the American people" and that all this distraction was keeping him from doing that.

Oh, and some of his supporters would start a movement called "Move Along Now, these aren't the droids you were looking for" or something of the sort.

And that's why those totalitarian bastards win. All. The. Time.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 11, 2017 04:24 PM (bb4ns)

167 136 Remember during he Clinton campaign All that Chinese money flowing in?

No? You don't?

Well apparently the media didn't care either. Because democrats!
Posted by: Marcus T -
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And of course lets not forget Ted "lion of the Senate" Kennedy went to USSR in 1984 to actually Collude-Collude against Reagan.

Jake Tapper: "Kennedy? Soviet Union? Never heard of it"

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2017 04:25 PM (G0vdT)

168 Russia.....yawn.

Just stopping in to wish Insomniac good luck re: the interview.

Back later.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 11, 2017 04:25 PM (a0JDc)

169 Lest we forget....lest we forget....

God, I hate the press.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 11, 2017 04:25 PM (3OIiX)

170
The next time a well-meaning lefty takes me to a sammich bistro for lunch, I believe that I'll order the Palomino on leathery focaccia bread.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 11, 2017 04:25 PM (pNxlR)

171 Russia! Russia! Russia?

Posted by: USNtakim at July 11, 2017 04:26 PM (zZWkn)

172 Collusion with the intelligence Organsof our enemy ?
No, our enemy is Kovert Organsof. Intelligencei Organsof is an upstanding individual. Smart, too.

Posted by: Boiled Wine at July 11, 2017 04:27 PM (eXSOZ)

173 Jake Tapper: "Kennedy? Soviet Union? Never heard of it"/i]

Whatever, that was like before I was born back in the dark ages or some sh*t

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:27 PM (39g3+)

174 >>> The hystrionic partisan Jake Tapper is claiming, meanwhile, that these emails demonstrate "collusion" without any possible counterargument.

Sooo many journalists frantically auditioning today to be the next Woodward or Bernstein. Too bad the script they are using as their audition piece is batcrap crazy.

*goes back to watching CNN memes*

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2017 04:27 PM (hvf9s)

175 Oh and exactly who is the Russian Crown Prosecutor? Didn't they toss the Tzar out quite some time ago?

I smell a Red herring in that email.

**KLAXON** The Russians are commies comrade! They are so far from a "CROWN" it isn't funny! **KLAXON**

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 04:28 PM (YxyYj)

176 Evan Thomas (of Newsweek I believe) stated that media bias/support was
worth 15% points in elections to the Democrats. And he said this back in
2004, when the mask of objectivity was still partially on (with the
exception of lying propagandist Dan Rather). Lacking that 15% bump
Democrats don't get elected to fucking dogcatcher anywhere in this
country.
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Trump is working on this. The Democrats/libs tried to destroy him. The mass media is their power source.

He is a mass media expert.

Give him time.

Posted by: Mega at July 11, 2017 04:28 PM (rv0Fo)

177 Oops, sock off.

Obviously, Whoreson is conflating "possessor of information" with "elements of foreign intelligence" in his pathetic elision. Because in crazy dem world, only Sekrit Sooper Spize could have information on one of the Chosen Ones.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 11, 2017 04:28 PM (eXSOZ)

178 They're claiming Don jr. is "collusion-curious."

NTTATWWT

Posted by: josephistan at July 11, 2017 04:29 PM (7HtZB)

179 Not just Ukraine....

There are statements from the House of Saud about their support, including financial, of Hillary....

I'd LOVE to see that investigated...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 11, 2017 04:29 PM (NgKpN)

180 Lest we forget...

Something remarkable happened at 44 Henry St., a grimy Chinatown tenement with peeling walls. It also happened nearby at a dimly lighted apartment building with trash bins clustered by the front door.

--
A child was born....
In the ghetto....

Posted by: Eric Cartman

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 04:30 PM (YxyYj)

181 Insomniac, prayers up for good news.

Posted by: alexthechick - my will to power? so much bigger at July 11, 2017 04:30 PM (mf5HN)

182 115 I'll keep y'all posted.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:10 PM (0mRoj)

+++

Always pulling for you, Insomniac.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 11, 2017 04:30 PM (2+gSO)

183 137 It must be frustrating t wait a few weeks before you hear, Insomniac. Will continue to keep you in prayer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2017 04:16 PM (iVOAv)

Thank you. It's suboptimal, but I've gotten used to it. The gears of large organizations turn slowly.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:30 PM (0mRoj)

184 "They're claiming Don Jr. is "collusion-curious.""
-Posted by: josephistan at July 11, 2017 04:29 PM (7HtZB)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 11, 2017 04:30 PM (6gk0M)

185 What cracks me up is that even if the guy did offer something illegal, Trump jr walked out. 20 minutes is not long enough for anything significant to have happened. They didn't get anything out of the meeting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:30 PM (39g3+)

186 Collusion?

I know CNN was in collusion with Saddam.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 11, 2017 04:31 PM (yBGSs)

187 Note: Saddam Hussein still had chemical weapons that we found during the Iraq war. The official reports noted them.

Yes he did, and he would have had a lot more; he sent them across the border to Syria while we were building up for the invasion. Where do you think Assad got those chemical weapons he has used? In your scenario AQ would have had a bonanza of chem weapons to use on us or Europe, and they most certainly would have.

Fvck stupid leftists who are terrified we'll become an Empire - like there is anyplace or anything else in the world we want. In WWII all we asked for was enough land to bury our dead. We had a monopoly on nukes and could have conquered the whole world - some Empire. Dumb Fvckheads.

Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2017 04:31 PM (87O69)

188 The only possible response to hearing that Russia wants you to win is to suddenly believe that your candidacy might be a Russian plot and drop out of the race.

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2017 04:32 PM (2mC6G)

189 185 What cracks me up is that even if the guy did offer something illegal, Trump jr walked out. 20 minutes is not long enough for anything significant to have happened. They didn't get anything out of the meeting.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:30 PM (39g3+)

Seems just long enough for Jr. to conclude it was bullshit and walk out. Which seems to be exactly what happened.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:32 PM (0mRoj)

190 I like Larry Jocobsen saying that Trump jr is such a noob,Hillary would have sent a surrogate.C'mon Junior,you are in politics now,you need to up your game.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 04:32 PM (rmVvL)

191 I haven't checked out too many articles yet to see the lib journalist exploding heads, but the Vox one was pretty darn special.

"Comparing political scandals to Watergate is normally a very dangerous thing to do. Richard Nixon's crimes plunged the nation into political chaos, sparked a genuine constitutional crisis, and set the stage for what would have been the first successful impeachment of an American president in history.

We're not there yet, but we're getting much closer."

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2017 04:32 PM (hvf9s)

192 The local radio show is playing John Dickerson saying Don Jr. is "collusion curious" with porno music in the background! LMFAO!

Posted by: josephistan at July 11, 2017 04:33 PM (7HtZB)

193 I read somewhere this morning that there is no such thing as a Russian Crown Prosecutor, they said it was a joke on the sketchy friends part.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 11, 2017 04:33 PM (GhqvW)

194 Meanwhile in France- Macron-"Africa needs less children , not aid."

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2017 04:33 PM (wWrLQ)

195 I've seen my lib friends react to news that trump admin reached out to russia for help with iran AFTER the election and their responses were near insanity.

They are not ok. They have been programmed by clinton hq and this is their current jihad.

Laugh at them and keep poking the bear. The faster they have a complete mental breakdown, the faster they can get help.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 04:33 PM (YxyYj)

196 All this occurred in early June before, I believe, it was known Russia had potentially hacked anything, right? But the Dems knew and possibly some of their associates.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 11, 2017 04:33 PM (4e+hS)

197 Thanks again everybody for all your prayers, good wishes and support. This would all be exponentially harder without you.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:33 PM (0mRoj)

198 80 . . . Evan Thomas (of Newsweek I believe) stated that media bias/support was worth 15% points in elections to the Democrats. And he said this back in 2004, when the mask of objectivity was still partially on (with the exception of lying propagandist Dan Rather). Lacking that 15% bump Democrats don't get elected to fucking dogcatcher anywhere in this country.
_______

Let me lay some perspective on you: If you use that 15% assumption for the 2004 election, then Bush would have won 485 electoral votes. Bush would have carried California by 600,000 votes.

Posted by: Furious George at July 11, 2017 04:34 PM (j+dfT)

199 Trump Jr's meeting was a lot shorter than all of McCain's meetings with Keating.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 11, 2017 04:34 PM (yBGSs)

200 Meanwhile in France- Macron-"Africa needs less children , not aid."

Quit fucking.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 04:34 PM (YxyYj)

201 194 Meanwhile in France- Macron-"Africa needs less children , not aid."
Posted by: Ben Had

"Africa needs less children, more AIDS."

FTFY.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2017 04:34 PM (DQ4Fv)

202 Truth be told, they named the tit-for-tat legislation that ultimately ended Russian adoptions because of a hetero family. Husband was supposed to drop infant off at daycare. Instead left said child in automobile for nine fucking hours.

Husband skated.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 11, 2017 04:13 PM (EgwCt)

---

Sure, but that's not why the (D)s hate them now when liking them for decades. 2010:

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"A new round of U.S.-Russian negotiations on child adoptions that started Wednesday in Moscow swiftly decided that same-sex U.S. couples would be banned from adopting Russian children."

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/us-gay-couples-
banned-from-adopting-russian-children-6
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Now the (D)s openly and actively want a shooting war.

Posted by: Married Men Everywhere at July 11, 2017 04:35 PM (34E+f)

203 So, the term "Russian Crown Prosecutor" is an odd one. Russia isn't a Kingdom.

I googled the term, and I can find exactly *1* reference to the term before the latest shit storm.

Basically, a poster on some obscure blog;

https://tinyurl.com/yb2h8kfm

named Kiwiwatcher had a posting he most likely copied from some other source about something nefarious that Putin probably did in his rise to power.

http://disq.us/p/1byxx9u

Weird huh?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2017 04:35 PM (eSx+E)

204 >>>20 minutes is not long enough for anything significant to have happened.

***cries***

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 11, 2017 04:35 PM (ENB12)

205 Seems just long enough for Jr. to conclude it was bullshit and walk out. Which seems to be exactly what happened.

That's my sense as well. Enough time to meet and greet, figure out this is a waste of time, and gracefully get out.

I like Larry Jocobsen saying that Trump jr is such a noob, Hillary would have sent a surrogate.

Like Chelsea? I mean... Trump didn't go himself...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:36 PM (39g3+)

206 Africa needs better dick washing and more condoms,not children.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 04:36 PM (rmVvL)

207 When Jake Tapper was at Dartmouth, he published a cartoon depicting Clarence Thomas as a lawn jockey. Seriously.

Does someone have access to the Dartmouth newspaper archives? I've love it if someone ended his career.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 11, 2017 04:36 PM (toqQ3)

208 Stalin must be laughing his ass off right now.

" When we hang the capitalists, they will sell us the rope we use."

Obviously he was off the mark a little, but not by much.

Posted by: Mike G. at July 11, 2017 04:37 PM (nRdSt)

209 The media are lobbing onto this "Nevertheless, he colluded" nonsense with Don Jr.

There's been a lot of talk about him running for office one day. Even if there's no 'there' there, could the media manage to sink any chance of that simply by not letting this lie? Or will Don Jr be just fine? If he inherited any of the media savvy of his dad, methinks he can spin this into his favor. We'll see.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2017 04:37 PM (hvf9s)

210 ***cries***

Well, I mean you gotta factor in dinner and 15 minutes of begging

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:37 PM (39g3+)

211 In September and October 2016, all the smart money was on Hillary winning. How could the Russians think that they'd sway the election with e-mails that only embarrassed the DNC and Podesta?

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2017 04:37 PM (+7/1f)

212 200 Meanwhile in France- Macron-"Africa needs less children , not aid."

Quit fucking.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 04:34 PM (YxyYj)

First off, it's "fewer" children. Second, Macron is a fuckstick.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:37 PM (0mRoj)

213 Tapper is safe.

Liberals get to be racist if its about black conservatives.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2017 04:37 PM (oVJmc)

214 They're looking at the man in the mirror.

Posted by: Zombie Michael Jackson at July 11, 2017 04:37 PM (lIZQs)

215 Two years ago when most on our side were still crying about how {{{literally}}} reeee awful Donald Trump was, I told you he was going to go to war with the Media/Democrats and destroy them.

I am NOT tooting my horn because honestly who gives a fuck what I said or think.

On the contrary, I am here to lend you solace. This has been like a freakin superhero movie, every step of the way. I have been laughing for two straight years at the libs on both sides stepping on their own tiny dicks while Trump teleports around smacking them upside the head from every direction.

It was revenge for Breitbart and Palin, and a lot of other things. Real greaseball shit.

And the show has only barely begun.

Posted by: Mega at July 11, 2017 04:38 PM (rv0Fo)

216 Trump Jr's meeting was a lot shorter than Bill Clinton's meeting with Loretta Lynch.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 11, 2017 04:38 PM (yBGSs)

217 If a "journalist" interviews or attempts to interview a terrorist (i.e., get information from him), is that "collusion?"

Posted by: gm at July 11, 2017 04:38 PM (6Yw+T)

218 210 ***cries***

Well, I mean you gotta factor in dinner and 15 minutes of begging
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:37 PM (39g3+)

You've been married I see.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:38 PM (0mRoj)

219 I wonder how much this release of emails kicks the legs out from under the Big Russia Investigation Special Prosecutor Show

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:38 PM (39g3+)

220 Democrats focusing on this latest bit is stupid because it reveals their own shortcomings.

The Democrats are upset Trump Jr met with a Russian lawyer to get information about Hillary colluding with Russia.

Are they worried about collusion or not?

Posted by: wodun at July 11, 2017 04:38 PM (lFga6)

221 200 Meanwhile in France- Macron-"Africa needs less children , not aid."

Quit fucking.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 04:34 PM (YxyYj)

This is a culture that thinks a cure for aids is having sex with underage virgins....

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 11, 2017 04:39 PM (t06LC)

222 Insomniac- Thanks for the correction.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2017 04:39 PM (wWrLQ)

223 >>> Meanwhile in France- Macron-"Africa needs less children , not aid."

What is it with socialists blatantly going into child killing mode lately? They are usually more subtle about it.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2017 04:39 PM (hvf9s)

224 This is a culture that thinks a cure for aids is having sex with underage virgins....
Posted by: Jollyroger at July 11, 2017 04:39 PM (t06LC)

Hasa diga eebowai!

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:39 PM (0mRoj)

225 Trump Jr's meeting was shorter than Hillary Clinton's meeting with her neurosurgeon. #sackofpotatoes

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 11, 2017 04:39 PM (yBGSs)

226 Macron-"Africa needs less children , not aid.

I dunno fewer children, but aid definitely is causing more problems than its solving.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:39 PM (39g3+)

227 Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2017 04:37 PM (hvf9s)

I think that's exactly what this is about. They need to destroy Jr. in the crib. Because there's a good chance he's next.

Posted by: Mega at July 11, 2017 04:40 PM (rv0Fo)

228 Adam Shiff (D for dumbass) is going whole hog on the new Russian connection

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2017 04:40 PM (Ot7+c)

229 Thank you. It's suboptimal, but I've gotten used to it. The gears of large organizations turn slowly.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:30 PM (0mRoj)

Wish you well insomniac. The frustrating thing I found is that interviews rarely if ever provide you any feedback on how you did, so there is no way to know if one has a weakness or flaw in their presentation that could be improved on.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 11, 2017 04:41 PM (bb4ns)

230 222 Insomniac- Thanks for the correction.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2017 04:39 PM (wWrLQ)

Any time. It's one of my many grammatical pet peeves.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:41 PM (0mRoj)

231 12 How can a Nood be announced then I get here and no one posts anything?

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2017 03:54 PM (Ot7+c)

Time travel. did you check the clocks Skip? And for God's sake you didn't mess with anything here during that time did you?! Cause history would be change.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'more cowbell please' at July 11, 2017 04:41 PM (31vnC)

232 What we have learned today:Africans fuck too much.
Japanese fuck too little.
Trans freaks have prostate envy.
Talking to a Russian is collusion.
I miss anything?

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 04:42 PM (rmVvL)

233 216 Trump Jr's meeting was a lot shorter than Bill Clinton's meeting with Loretta Lynch.
Posted by: Jack Sock
_______

It would have been pleasant if Trump Jr. had stated that he and the Russian lawyerette just talked about grandchildren.

Posted by: Furious George at July 11, 2017 04:42 PM (j+dfT)

234 Wish you well insomniac. The frustrating thing I found is that interviews rarely if ever provide you any feedback on how you did, so there is no way to know if one has a weakness or flaw in their presentation that could be improved on.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 11, 2017 04:41 PM (bb4ns)

That is a frustrating thing. I have asked that point blank after getting a rejection but received only the most evasive of answers.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:42 PM (0mRoj)

235 Posted by: Bill Wynn at July 11, 2017 04:41 PM (FvWAq)

Ethics Lawyer. Talk about an oxymoron.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 11, 2017 04:43 PM (yBGSs)

236 It's cow appreciation day at Chik-Fil-A. Dress like a cow you get free food.

No, dressing up like a member of the press doesn't count, sorry!

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2017 04:43 PM (hvf9s)

237 "This is treason," Richard Painter, a former George W. Bush White House ethics lawyer, wrote Sunday night on Twitter. "He must have known that the only way Russia would get such information was by spying."
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Really? This is a practicing lawyer saying the only way Russia could have information about Hillary Clinton's dealings with RUSSIA is by SPYING!!!

What a fucking hack!

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2017 04:43 PM (2mC6G)

238 What I love about this is the NYT and WAPO had stories ready to run for the next THREE DAYS on this - and now they have to scrap/rewrite because Don Jr released the whole email trail.

They expected stonewalling, and they get full disclosure. He's going on Hannity tonight.

And the media can't easily set the narrative.

And now many people are talking about the Clinton collusion, as part of the pushback.

This will disappear by Friday night.

Posted by: Joseph Dickerson at July 11, 2017 04:43 PM (LDV7V)

239 "real election law experts
Richard Painter
on Twitter
"
Oh, you mean the Richard Painter who's in bed with David Brock? On Twitter, which is exactly what Ace is referring to?

Your shine box. It has an appointment with you, so if you can go pick it up after you're finished with your mom, that'd be greaaaaat.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 11, 2017 04:44 PM (eXSOZ)

240 233 What we have learned today:Africans fuck too much.
Japanese fuck too little.
Trans freaks have prostate envy.
Talking to a Russian is collusion.
I miss anything?
Posted by: steevy
________

Butt stuff.

Posted by: Furious George at July 11, 2017 04:44 PM (j+dfT)

241 Really? This is a practicing lawyer saying the only way Russia could have information about Hillary Clinton's dealings with RUSSIA is by SPYING!!!

What a fucking hack!
Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2017 04:43 PM (2mC6G)

Indeed. He's completely beclowning himself.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:44 PM (0mRoj)

242 That is a frustrating thing. I have asked that point blank after getting a rejection but received only the most evasive of answers.
Posted by: Insomniac at July

well, that is because the wrong answer gets you sued.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 11, 2017 04:44 PM (0wem/)

243 Ah,the former GW Bush ethics lawyer again.The guy currently working for George Soros.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 04:44 PM (rmVvL)

244 >>It's cow appreciation day at Chik-Fil-A. Dress like a cow you get free food.

No, dressing up like a member of the press doesn't count, sorry!

Posted by: LizLem

How about a Mao pants suit?

Posted by: Hillary at July 11, 2017 04:44 PM (/Nite)

245 Indeed. He's completely beclowning himself.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:44 PM (0mRoj)
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The lib is strong in this one.

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2017 04:45 PM (2mC6G)

246 If this Russia Collusion story ever gets broken, I want to be the one to break it.

Posted by: Dan Rather at July 11, 2017 04:45 PM (Mouru)

247 "This is treason," Richard Painter, a former George W. Bush White House ethics lawyer, wrote Sunday night on Twitter. "He must have known that the only way Russia would get such information was by spying."

Painter added in another message: "In the Bush administration we could have had him in custody for questioning by now."

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It's going be an early night.

Posted by: MAGA at July 11, 2017 04:45 PM (B+Arn)

248 If this Russia Collusion story ever gets broken, I want to be the one to break it.

Posted by: Dan Rather at July 11, 2017 04:45 PM (Mouru)
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Booting up MS Word as we speak, aren't ya?

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2017 04:46 PM (2mC6G)

249 243 That is a frustrating thing. I have asked that point blank after getting a rejection but received only the most evasive of answers.
Posted by: Insomniac at July

well, that is because the wrong answer gets you sued.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 11, 2017 04:44 PM (0wem/)

This is true. If everything was just fine in the interview but I was too white, too male, too straight or too early-middle-aged that would put them in an awkward spot.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:46 PM (0mRoj)

250 238 "This is treason," Richard Painter, a former George W. Bush White House ethics lawyer, wrote Sunday night on Twitter. "He must have known that the only way Russia would get such information was by spying."
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gee, this was a W guy, you say? weird.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 04:46 PM (AU4SY)

251 Is it illegal to lie to journolists?

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 11, 2017 04:46 PM (lIZQs)

252 "This is treason," Richard Painter, a former George W. Bush White House ethics lawyer,
***
Painter works for Soros now.

Speaking of which, why haven't we extradited Soros to Hungary yet?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2017 04:46 PM (eSx+E)

253 If Dick Painter is after you, it is only a matter of time until taint paint.

Posted by: wooga at July 11, 2017 04:47 PM (lOJ7h)

254 I suggest Macron should go over to every country in Africa affected by AIDS and tell each and every parent that they have too many children and that they should get rid of some now. He should even volunteer to tell them which children should be disposed of.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2017 04:47 PM (iVOAv)

255 Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2017 04:43 PM (2mC6G)

Richard Painter is the douche suing Trump for not selling all of his assets and businesses.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 11, 2017 04:47 PM (yBGSs)

256 252 "This is treason," Richard Painter, a former George W. Bush White House ethics lawyer,
***
Painter works for Soros now.

Speaking of which, why haven't we extradited Soros to Hungary yet?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2017 04:46 PM (eSx+E)

Hungary? Black bag his ass and send him to Guantanamo.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:47 PM (0mRoj)

257 Richard Painter is a wacko-bird.

He's suing Trump personally for violating the emoluments clause.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2017 04:47 PM (+7/1f)

258 This is true. If everything was just fine in the
interview but I was too white, too male, too straight or too
early-middle-aged that would put them in an awkward spot.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:46 PM (0mRoj)

Precisely.

Good luck to you regardless.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 11, 2017 04:48 PM (bb4ns)

259 I do like that we're finally getting the left to settle in on a definition of treason and a certain...enthusiasm for prosecuting it.

It's only been 80 years. But with 23 weeks of winning through trump, we finally get an effort to comply with the law, it's great.

Now, while we try to prosecute trump jr for treason, everyone of us has a list of lefties that have implicated themselves times 100 in for real treason.

#Winning.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 04:48 PM (AU4SY)

260 The only thing that's off about this is that they didn't send some flunkie to get the information.

They're new to D.C. They'll learn. You send some paid operative to get the information. Someone like Roger Stone or Omarosa or Kellyanne.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 11, 2017 04:48 PM (4ErVI)

261 Dick Painter was a Dubya guy and now works for Soros?

This is my shocked face.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 04:49 PM (ul9CR)

262 That is a frustrating thing. I have asked that point blank after getting a rejection but received only the most evasive of answers.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:42 PM (0mRoj)

I understand that a nice display of cleavage can make you a shoo-in.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 11, 2017 04:49 PM (Mouru)

263 206 Africa needs better dick washing and more condoms,not children.
Posted by: steevy

In biological science, there are two identified "strategies" for parenting:

"r-selection" strategy, which is to have a lot of offspring but not invest much effort into raising each one, on the hope that some percentage of them will survive to adulthood.

"K-selection" strategy, which is to have a small number of children, and to devote an immense amount of parenting effort into raising them, to protect them into adulthood.

Generally (but not universally), the larger the species, the more "K-selection" their parenting strategy skews, e.g. elephants have very few offspring, but spend years and years mothering and protecting each one. Smaller animals, like rabbits or small fish, often give birth to dozens or even hundreds of offspring each year, and let them fend for themselves after a brief nurturing phase.

Humans used to be more r-selected, which each woman would pump out 14 kids over her lifetime, and maybe two or three would survive to adulthood, and the average lifespan was 29 -- even in "civilized" nations.

But as time has progressed, we've become more K-slected, with fewer kids and more parenting.

However, to this day, different human groups employ different strategies, and it has always been a "colonialist" confirmation bias that Westerners assume and expect third-worlders to have the same "K" strategy now commonplace in developed nations. We can't wrap our minds around the notion of dropping a big pile of squirming newborns over the years so that perhaps a few will survive. But in areas with bad conditions, this actually is not a bad survival strategy. It just seems grotesque and almost unacceptable from our moral framework.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2017 04:49 PM (DQ4Fv)

264 Speaking of which, why haven't we extradited Soros to Hungary yet?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2017 04:46 PM (eSx+E)

Hungary? Black bag his ass and send him to Guantanamo.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:47 PM (0mRoj)

I would give much to see that vermin Soros get the Nakoula Nakoula treatment.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 11, 2017 04:50 PM (bb4ns)

265 "Dick Painter."

Ugh, where do you go to apply for THAT job?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 11, 2017 04:50 PM (Mouru)

266 Dick Painter was a Dubya guy and now works for Soros?

This is my shocked face.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 04:49 PM (ul9CR)

Wait, wait, wait.... his name is Dick Painter? Were his parents hippies or just assholes?

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 11, 2017 04:50 PM (t06LC)

267
"He's suing Trump personally for violating the emoluments clause."

There's a law against skin cream?

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 11, 2017 04:50 PM (lIZQs)

268 >>I suggest Macron should go over to every country in Africa affected by
AIDS and tell each and every parent that they have too many children and
that they should get rid of some now. He should even volunteer to tell
them which children should be disposed of.

The thing is, the Lefty thinkers and leaders like Macron have been telling *us* to have fewer kids for years. To save the planet's resources, because it gets in the way of a woman's career trajectory, etc..

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (NOIQH)

269 261 Dick Painter was a Dubya guy and now works for Soros?

This is my shocked face.

***

and sadly, to the left, his words count as some sort of statement against interest.

Then again, I'd be happy to know the lefts' position on treason now has a firm line in the sand.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (AU4SY)

270 Sometimes I feel a little guilty being amused by the insanity of the lefty progs. Usually I don't, though.

Posted by: Marmo, lovin' the smell of covfefe in the morning at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (xujbM)

271 Dick "Dick" Painter

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (ul9CR)

272 Who among us hasn't done some dick painting?

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (rmVvL)

273 Question - this meeting with the Russian babe happened a year ago. How did it only come to light now? Wouldn't it have come up sooner?

Posted by: josephistan at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (7HtZB)

274 219 I wonder how much this release of emails kicks the legs out from under the Big Russia Investigation Special Prosecutor Show
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:38 PM (39g3+)

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None. Because it's a straight up fishing expedition on Trump, family and associates. They won't stop until Trump himself shuts it down or if they find any technical violation of any law by anyone.

Posted by: MAGA at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (B+Arn)

275 Richard Painter is a wacko-bird.

He's suing Trump personally for violating the emoluments clause.

And his logic would lock up George Washington if his tobacco got sold overseas while he was president.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (oVJmc)

276 and I love the guy's leap of logic...the ONLY WAY RUSSIA WOULD HAVE DIRT IS BECAUSE TREASONASRONMASDGNDASDsd231

such a serious mind.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (AU4SY)

277 "Dick Painter."

Is that painting one's dick, or painting WITH one's dick?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (RwwCT)

278 I understand that a nice display of cleavage can make you a shoo-in.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 11, 2017 04:49 PM (Mouru)

Even if I had man-boobs I doubt anyone would want to see any part of them.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 11, 2017 04:52 PM (0mRoj)

279 265 "Dick Painter."

Ugh, where do you go to apply for THAT job?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 11, 2017 04:50 PM (Mouru)

Key West during Fantasy Fest

Posted by: josephistan at July 11, 2017 04:52 PM (7HtZB)

280 267
"He's suing Trump personally for violating the emoluments clause."

There's a law against skin cream?
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 11, 2017 04:50 PM (lIZQs)

Golf. Clap.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 04:52 PM (ul9CR)

281 oh yeah, and then at the meeting the rooskies bait and switched into asking for changing some stupid law.

yep, just taking a meeting was treason.

legal geniuussses.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 04:52 PM (AU4SY)

282 >>Who among us hasn't done some dick painting?

We talking about our own or others?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2017 04:52 PM (/tuJf)

283 265 "Dick Painter."

Ugh, where do you go to apply for THAT job?
Posted by: Cicero

Ask his brother Taint.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 04:53 PM (YxyYj)

284 >>>203 So, the term "Russian Crown Prosecutor" is an odd one. Russia isn't a Kingdom.

"Russian Crown" is code for RC Cola.

Posted by: wooga at July 11, 2017 04:53 PM (lOJ7h)

285 >>But in areas with bad conditions, this actually is not a bad survival
strategy. It just seems grotesque and almost unacceptable from our moral
framework.

Well, now that they're all flocking to Europe their r-selection strategy is an intentional invasion to be fully realized in a generation.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2017 04:53 PM (NOIQH)

286 However, to this day, different human groups employ different strategies, and it has always been a "colonialist" confirmation bias that Westerners assume and expect third-worlders to have the same "K" strategy now commonplace in developed nations. We can't wrap our minds around the notion of dropping a big pile of squirming newborns over the years so that perhaps a few will survive. But in areas with bad conditions, this actually is not a bad survival strategy. It just seems grotesque and almost unacceptable from our moral framework.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2017 04:49 PM (DQ4Fv)

Yeah, but let me counter by saying my colonialist privilege only comes into play because I'm asked to donate money for the r selected to the tune of Sarah McGlaughlin, or to the fact that the r selected want to head to my culture and make the selection process my problem.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 11, 2017 04:53 PM (t06LC)

287 The whole media kerfuffle over this boils down to projection, as usual for leftists; They actually did conspire and collude to help one candidate and harm another and can't imagine anyone would do otherwise.

So clearly these things happened, all they need is some evidence.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 11, 2017 04:53 PM (z79tQ)

288 273 Question - this meeting with the Russian babe happened a year ago. How did it only come to light now? Wouldn't it have come up sooner?
Posted by: josephistan at July 11, 2017 04:51 PM (7HtZB)

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My theory is it is information obtained by Team Mueller being leaked. Stuff they got by subpoena.

Posted by: MAGA at July 11, 2017 04:53 PM (B+Arn)

289 Who among us hasn't done some dick painting?

Please Lord, don't make me ever have to do another dick snake.

Posted by: A Suicidal Tattoo Artist at July 11, 2017 04:53 PM (Mouru)

290
Really? This is a practicing lawyer saying the only way Russia could
have information about Hillary Clinton's dealings with RUSSIA is by
SPYING!!!

What a fucking hack!

LOL

Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2017 04:54 PM (87O69)

291 It just seems grotesque and almost unacceptable from our moral framework.

...and it's here that I will rather archly suggest that our moral framework is superior. Because dead kids.

Given that the West was more or less only ever r-selected to that extent and in that way by necessity and not choice, anyone wishing to r-select to the point of *fatalities* and malnourishment out of choice is... ethically inferior.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 11, 2017 04:54 PM (eXSOZ)

292 I have it on good authority that Trump sometimes uses Russian dressing on his salad.

Is there anything else you need to know to realize that the country is at the precipice?

I didn't think so.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 11, 2017 04:54 PM (bb4ns)

293 Hungary? Black bag his ass and send him to Guantanamo.

I'd much rather go to Club Gitmo than a Hungarian prison.

this meeting with the Russian babe happened a year ago. How did it only come to light now?

They need Russian squirrels, badly. Particularly after last week.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 04:54 PM (39g3+)

294 Ace it is not a matter of what 'Don Jr is NOT '...

It is entirely a matter of what the Clintons and Dems ARE.

SESSIONS can either find the one honest lawyer left in the DOJ or outsource the Clinton/Dem felonies for an independent counsel.

Playing ONLY defense is a solid gold losers' game.

Go on offense Sessions/PDT or lose EVERYThing.

Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at July 11, 2017 04:55 PM (oBuXO)

295 Matte or glossy?

Oh what the hell, you only live once. Let's go with the glossy!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 04:56 PM (ul9CR)

296
Given that the West was more or less only ever r-selected to that extent and in that way by necessity and not choice, anyone wishing to r-select to the point of *fatalities* and malnourishment out of choice is... ethically inferior.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 11, 2017 04:54 PM (eXSOZ)

But...but... slavery. Check your colonialism man

J/K. I totes agree.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 11, 2017 04:56 PM (t06LC)

297 How can a Nood be announced then I get here and no one posts anything?

Some read the post.
Posted by: rickb223

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Well, it's not like typing the word "First!" is going to be wrong or something.

...Unless the post is "Why typing the word 'First!' is wrong."

Posted by: RKae at July 11, 2017 04:56 PM (NQNOa)

298 "We can't wrap our minds around the notion of dropping a big pile of squirming newborns over the years so that perhaps a few will survive."

One of my Irish grandmothers had 15 kids; the other just the five.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2017 04:56 PM (+7/1f)

299 Yury Chaika is the Prosecutor General for Russia.

No such critter as a crown prosecutor. Who's zoomin who?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2017 04:57 PM (wWrLQ)

300 I like how Wynning Bull's attack was "he's not a real lawyer like this guy on Twitter". Because Twitter is an avenue for complete legal opinions and it takes a real lawyer to actually MENTION WHAT THE FUCKING LAW ACTUALLY IS.

Posted by: Sporkatus at July 11, 2017 04:57 PM (eXSOZ)

301 Wait....

Sooooo... trying to find out if a foreign power has information they could use to disrupt the US Election, is Treason?

Posted by: Don Q. at July 11, 2017 04:57 PM (NgKpN)

302 I am really getting tired of all these motherfuckers on the left spewing these awful lies.

Can we just shoot them?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2017 04:58 PM (UsCnO)

303 SESSIONS can either find the one honest lawyer left in the DOJ or outsource the Clinton/Dem felonies for an independent counsel.

Hire AtC & Insomniac.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 04:58 PM (YxyYj)

304 Hey, remember when ubama got all those illegal credit card donations from jihadis all over the globe? Good times, man, good times.

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2017 04:58 PM (zLDYs)

305 LeftCoast Dawg at July 11, 2017 04:58 PM (UsCnO)

Easy.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2017 04:58 PM (/tuJf)

306 >>>111 If you consider that this is an operation to create an irresistible enticement to the leftists in the United States to utterly expose their own illegal acts--then this operation is going on as an unqualified success.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 11, 2017 04:11 PM (W1XyZ)

That would be nice.

Posted by: m at July 11, 2017 04:59 PM (VgThI)

307 If I had the keys to the AoSHq Time Machine I would slip a few numbers from the lottery

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2017 04:59 PM (Ot7+c)

308 Trump also has been known to eat Chicken Kiev.

And where is Kiev?....inquiring minds would like to know.

Well Russia of course!

I regret that I missed my true calling as I should have been an investigative journalist. Woodward and Bernstein should be kissing my feet, I am so good.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 11, 2017 05:00 PM (bb4ns)

309 Ace makes a good point: news organizations regularly go to all manner of scuzzy people to get information. They got inside info from Iranian government officials, for instance. Why is it okay for them to do so but not a private citizen? How is it treason for Joe Blow to talk to someone about information and not a reporter?

Would a reporter have turned down this offer? Would it have been treason for them to go meet? I mean, by their definition?

Strangely, no reporters are responding to Ace on this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 05:00 PM (39g3+)

310 Hardest decision I ever made.

Posted by: Zombie Thomas Kinkade, Painter of Light at July 11, 2017 05:00 PM (RwwCT)

311 We are a nation of 57 genders, not of laws.

Posted by: ShainS at July 11, 2017 05:01 PM (NCYKS)

312 299 Yury Chaika is the Prosecutor General for Russia.

No such critter as a crown prosecutor. Who's zoomin who?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2017 04:57 PM (wWrLQ)

crown Prosecutor... maybe for the Czar? or Prince Dmitri Pavlovich Romanovsky-Ilynsky the Russian Prince in Exile?

Posted by: Don Q. at July 11, 2017 05:01 PM (NgKpN)

313 Painter works for Soros now.

I believe the Ace of Spades style sheet calls for: "unrepentant Nazi collaborator and convicted felon George Soros"

Posted by: An Observation at July 11, 2017 05:01 PM (87O69)

314 I'm sure the point's been made many times, but I question the whole narrative that Russia wanted Hillary to win. How did Russia fare during the Obama years? Did the "Reset" symbolized with much fanfare by the media with a cheap gag gift, and orchestrated by Hillary, help Russia or hurt her? Has Russia's stature in the world stage, vis-a-vis America's, increased or decreased?

I think we all know the answers to those questions.

So, if you were Putin, would you rather continue on the trajectory of the previous 8 years, or would try to get elected a shoot-from-the hip cowboy who promised to be the next Ronald Reagan?

As many have said, I think Russia's intent during the election was to diminish the person who they thought, as everyone else did, would surely be the next President. If they had any inkling at all that Trump might win, then their efforts could only be seen as hedging their bet.

Posted by: Average Guy at July 11, 2017 05:01 PM (LMcFk)

315 It's not just those on the left and neverTrumpers....I've seen some pretty conservative pundits clutch pearls over this.

Ridiculous....

Posted by: Tami at July 11, 2017 05:01 PM (Enq6K)

316 On the main point although somewhat OT, of course foreign nationals can volunteer for a campaign. Strike "foreign nationals" and read "illegal aliens." Now it makes sense.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 11, 2017 05:02 PM (jK8Z7)

317 what about the logan act, any word on that?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 05:02 PM (AU4SY)

318 Yury Chaika is the Prosecutor General for Russia.

No such critter as a crown prosecutor. Who's zoomin who?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2017 04:57 PM (wWrLQ)

crown Prosecutor... maybe for the Czar? or Prince Dmitri Pavlovich Romanovsky-Ilynsky the Russian Prince in Exile?
Posted by: Don Q.

Exactly. Crown anything is monarchy.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 05:02 PM (YxyYj)

319 And where is Kiev?....inquiring minds would like to know.

Well Russia of course!

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..Um... well... actually, it's the Ukrainian capital.

But the tune "Great Gate of Kiev" was composed by Modest Mussorgsky, and he was Russian.

So, there's that.

Posted by: RKae at July 11, 2017 05:03 PM (NQNOa)

320 Yuri Covfefsky is the Prosecutor Lt. General
Hugo Fukritov is the Prosecutor Major General

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 05:03 PM (ul9CR)

321 what about the logan act, any word on that?

Is that the one that requires running?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 05:03 PM (YxyYj)

322 But the tune "Great Gate of Kiev" was composed by Modest Mussorgsky, and he was Russian.

Fake News! Trump only listens to Emerson Lake & Palmer's version!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 05:04 PM (ul9CR)

323 Yuri Covfefsky is the Prosecutor Lt. General
Hugo Fukritov is the Prosecutor Major General

I thought the prosecutor Major General was Boris Fukitol.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 05:04 PM (YxyYj)

324 But the tune "Great Gate of Kiev" was composed by Modest Mussorgsky, and he was Russian.

Fake News! Trump only listens to Emerson Lake & Palmer's version!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat?

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Anyone who listens to ELP gets my vote!

4 more years! 4 more years!

Posted by: RKae at July 11, 2017 05:05 PM (NQNOa)

325 Trump violated Lohan?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 05:05 PM (ul9CR)

326 Yury Chaika is what you get released at the massage parlor.

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2017 05:05 PM (zLDYs)

327 Um... well... actually, it's the Ukrainian capital.

"Pff whatever, like yoo-crane is a real country"
-Millennial reporter

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 05:05 PM (39g3+)

328 ..Um... well... actually, it's the Ukrainian capital.

But the tune "Great Gate of Kiev" was composed by Modest Mussorgsky, and he was Russian.

So, there's that.

Posted by: RKae at July 11, 2017 05:03 PM (NQNOa)

Point taken. But if you believe the CNN philosophy that most Americans are stupid then it really doesn't matter as long as I placed Kiev in the right hemisphere. Or planet for that matter.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 11, 2017 05:05 PM (bb4ns)

329 what about the logan act, any word on that?

Is that the one that requires running?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2017 05:03 PM (YxyYj)

No, its the one with the claws

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 11, 2017 05:06 PM (t06LC)

330 "Go on offense Sessions/PDT or lose EVERYThing."

I'll go with a Russian metaphor.

Expect the counter-offensive to start any day now, given that the Left has over-extended their lines by making increasingly vapid allegations. I can almost hear General Zhukov Sessions gunning the engines of 3,000 T-34 tanks.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2017 05:06 PM (+7/1f)

331 Yoo-crane.

We all learned a new word at the briefing today.

Posted by: Aprul Ryan at July 11, 2017 05:07 PM (ul9CR)

332 Yury Chaika is what you get released at the massage parlor.

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2017 05:05 PM (zLDYs)

Al? Dat you?

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 11, 2017 05:07 PM (t06LC)

333 Trump violated Lohan?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat?

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Pfft! Who hasn't?

Posted by: RKae at July 11, 2017 05:07 PM (NQNOa)

334 303 SESSIONS can either find the one honest lawyer left in the DOJ or outsource the Clinton/Dem felonies for an independent counsel.

He has enough evidence for a prima facie case on a dozen Obama/Clinton operatives right this second.

He is hurting PDT with his inaction.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 11, 2017 05:07 PM (mcI77)

335 325
Trump violated Lohan?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 11, 2017 05:05 PM (ul9CR)

Grabbed her by the Prussia.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 11, 2017 05:07 PM (tbOMB)

336 The MSM-Prog complex is running out of corners.

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2017 05:08 PM (Pqytn)

337 NOO
DUH

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 11, 2017 05:08 PM (ENB12)

338 In Russia, Chakra releases you!

Posted by: josephistan at July 11, 2017 05:08 PM (7HtZB)

339 What if I'm angry at both sides because this is a bad thing to do? Note: a bad thing, not an illegal thing.

Posted by: FJ Min at July 11, 2017 05:08 PM (et6EV)

340 The Logan Act needs to be rewritten to require Hugh Jackman to continue portraying Wolverine.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 11, 2017 05:08 PM (z/Ubi)

341 Nood.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 11, 2017 05:09 PM (6gk0M)

342 Denying basic usage of the English language, defending horrible, unpatriotic actions with the "it's not technically illegal" line, blindly following the leader no matter what that leader does, supporting other countries who are interfering with fundamental aspects of American democracy...Ace morphed into an Obama era fluffer so subtly I hardly even noticed.

Posted by: The Sad Truth at July 11, 2017 05:09 PM (b5tmj)

343 Tin foil Stetson firmly in place. Let 'er buck
If there is no such thing as a crown prosecutor in Russia, and this info came from some music producer in the UK, is it possible this was a set up?

The Russkie lawyer just wanted to talk about Magnitsky law.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2017 05:11 PM (wWrLQ)

344 Posted by: FJ Min at July 11, 2017 05:08 PM (et6EV)

Yes, talking to foreign nationals is just, like, so bad. Especially when they tell you they have evidence of illegal activities they wish to bring to light. Clearly we should never communicate with those nefarious foreigners. I just can't even.

Posted by: Sjg at July 11, 2017 05:12 PM (gDSJf)

345 334 303 SESSIONS can either find the one honest lawyer left in the DOJ or outsource the Clinton/Dem felonies for an independent counsel.

He has enough evidence for a prima facie case on a dozen Obama/Clinton operatives right this second.

He is hurting PDT with his inaction.

****

first of all, it's obvious that meeting with russians, in any context, is treason. The gop must convince trump to submit his son for public execution asap lest we lose the moderates to 7 generations of wandering in the desert as this violation of the logan act is a nixonian level of misdeeds that moderates will never forgive the GOP for. After all, the only way a russian official would have any information about a true partiot like hillary is from evil spying.

next, every gop poltician in the usa, regardless of rank, must resign from public office forever.

for one, it's the only way to restore our sacred trust with the public.

and for two, the democrats would do the same, if the tables were reversed, if it were ever...if you can imagine this, revealed that they met with a foreign official who could only provide information because of evil spying.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 05:12 PM (AU4SY)

346 Question: Does anyone care about this in America outside of Washington, New York and a few other big cities?

There is major a irony to the Bill and Hillary Clinton odyssey. We have seen them go through one crooked scandal after another, and yet they never were seriously punished. That may annoy us, but it also protects us from the typical leftist smear on our people.

The only people who continue to hold on to the we "must be better than them" argument are Never Trump people. They are they kind of "conservatives" that Saul Alinsky loved. The left can smear a conservative and other "white knight" conservatives will take that person down for the left. However, the left can break every rule and law possible and all they will get disproving looks from those same "white knight" conservatives.

You cannot win anything like that, or survive.

There is nothing Trump, or his son, have done that is illegal by the letter of the law. As for the spirit...LOL. That ended a long time ago, if it ever existed.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 11, 2017 05:14 PM (MuTTO)

347 -Posted by: The Sad Truth at July 11, 2017 05:09 PM (b5tmj)

Since none of what you said is true, you can safely be ignored.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 11, 2017 05:14 PM (6gk0M)

348 Wait a second. Are you telling me that Donald Trump wanted his father to win the election?

Execution at dawn!

Posted by: MJ AOS at July 11, 2017 05:17 PM (zZiJ2)

349 I met a British MP once at a GOP candidate's campaign stop. Gave me his card even. It will be useful evidence in his treason trial, colluding with that evil foreigner. How dare he.

Posted by: Sjg at July 11, 2017 05:17 PM (gDSJf)

350 So everyone I hate is still super pissed off and butt hurt about losing the election?

Still not tired of winning. I'll muster concern when the Left is happy.

Posted by: MJ AOS at July 11, 2017 05:18 PM (zZiJ2)

351 350 So everyone I hate is still super pissed off and butt hurt about losing the election?

Still not tired of winning. I'll muster concern when the Left is happy.

***

also, the left has finally put down a firm line in the sand regarding treason. Guess what, they're against it.

Another DJT #Win

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 11, 2017 05:19 PM (AU4SY)

352 Poor old Hillary can't get a fair shake from you Russian-loving thugs who would do harm to an innocent, vulnerable babushka with a traumatic, stress-induced thirst for vodka.

Posted by: Fritz at July 11, 2017 05:22 PM (sMZCb)

353 Treason is no longer the highest form of patriotism? But then why did the Democrats free Bradley Womanning?

Posted by: Sjg at July 11, 2017 05:22 PM (gDSJf)

354 Trump haters: WE NEED TO SEE THOSE FUCKING EMAILS RIGHT NOW HOLY SHIT!!!111

Don Jr: Okay, here you are.

Trump haters: OH FUCK YOU ANYWAY ASSHOLE!!!111

Posted by: S at July 11, 2017 05:26 PM (poT2p)

355 Richard Painter is the douche suing Trump for not selling all of his assets and businesses.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 11, 2017 04:47 PM (yBGSs)
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Oh, he's one of those emoluments assholes?

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2017 05:32 PM (2mC6G)

356 Strangely, no reporters are responding to Ace on this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2017 05:00 PM (39g3+)
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Duh. Reporters are mentioned in the Constitution and you're not.

Posted by: Axeman at July 11, 2017 05:38 PM (2mC6G)

357 Of course, we should start with the treason at the DNC over the
collusion with Ukraine.

Those involved should be stripped naked and
dragged through DC behind a Segway. Then hanged, drawn and
quartered -- strangled by hanging, but released while he was still alive,
emasculated, eviscerated and their bowels burned before them, beheaded,
then cut into four parts each. Their heads (dipped in tar) was placed on a
pike atop the Key Bridge.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 11, 2017 05:44 PM (e8kgV)

358 So who exactly paid for the 'Pee-Pee Dossier? That would have been Fusion GPS, no? Acting on behalf of the Hillary campaign? Having been paid by the Hillary campaign? Or Comey and the FBI?

Hmmmm.....

Posted by: 10x25mm at July 11, 2017 05:58 PM (gG9BY)

359 Wait a minute, you mean some Russian insider offered proof that a candidate for president was engaged in illegal collusion with the Russian government, the holy grail of the entire anti-Trump "resistance," the very thing they demand every rock be overturned to uncover, but now suddenly such information is to be eschewed? To even think of looking at it is the highest treason and scandal? I wonder what could possibly account for this 180 degree flip? Such a mystery.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at July 11, 2017 05:58 PM (AphMS)

360 #ButRussia

IN RUSSIA, RUSSIA BUTT YOU!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 11, 2017 06:15 PM (kIxPI)

361 Whats the big deal. I thought government leaks were all the rage. This was not even from our government. If a leaker wants to give him damaging info on his opponent is he supposed to be the only guy in DC to say no?

Posted by: RustyG at July 11, 2017 06:25 PM (1Mft0)

362 Even if the info were a "thing of value," the solicitation here would have been coming from the Russian lady to the campaign and not the other way around.

It's been years since 1st-year Crim Law, but the way I remember the analogous hypothetical: A offers to perform an act of prostitution on B. B says "Maybe, let me see the goodies." A pulls up her shirt, B doesn't like what he sees and says "Nah, I'll pass."

A is guilty of solicitation of prostitution. B didn't accept the offer despite showing potential interest. If he'd accepted, even if he changed his mind when they got up to the hotel room, then both might have been guilty of conspiracy to commit prostitution.

Here, A is the Russian lawyer and B is Don Jr.(assuming for purposes of argument that the info would have been
something illegal for the Russian lawyer to provide to the campaign in
the first place).

Posted by: Alex at July 11, 2017 07:30 PM (7Yy8M)

363 I accepting information from a Russian national is Collusion, or a violation of campaign finance law, what then are we to make of Clinton and the British provided Oppo research that led to the Pee Pee papers?

Posted by: TSgt CIZ at July 11, 2017 07:43 PM (Bpud3)

364 I'm confused with this whole dick-painting thing? On, or with?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 11, 2017 08:24 PM (6wURk)

365 Top-notch analysis, Ace. Thanks.

I'm sensing Obama not only wiretapped Trump, but Trump's kids as well. Because Communism.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 12, 2017 06:56 AM (Ndje9)

366 I am soooooo sick of this hypocritical hysteria over every word that comes out of Trump or Junior or Ivanka's mouth. STF all of you leftists. ENOUGH ALREADY.

Posted by: Delilah at July 12, 2017 12:28 PM (gWojd)

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