On Macron, and that 11th Hour Hack

Macron was in fact the victim of an 11th hour hack of his emails, including some of his financial records. Some of those records have been confirmed to be real -- while others, presumably those which detail his secret accounts in offshore banks -- he implies are false.

Who was behind the leak? Well, some say it was Russia's army intelligence GRU, and some say it was the far right or "alt right."

Macron has blamed Russia and, of course, "fake news." (It's amazing how global our media is now, with memes passing so easily across borders like the Zika virus.)

Either the far left or the far right. One's as good as the other, depending on the media's storyline needs of the day.

This news was embargoed by the French government:

French media warned not to publish Emmanuel Macron leaks
Election authorities will prosecute internet users who pass on documents from massive En Marche! hack

France's electoral commission warned media and internet users that they could face criminal prosecution for publishing documents obtained in a "massive and coordinated hacking attack" on the presidential frontrunner Emmanuel Macron's political movement.
The commission, which held an emergency meeting to discuss the leak, said some of the documents appeared to contain "false information".
Thousands of internal En Marche! (On the Move!) documents were published on the internet an hour before the Friday midnight deadline for the start of a campaign blackout, meaning neither Macron nor his far-right Front National rival Marine Le Pen was allowed to respond.
France's presidential electoral authority, the CNCCEP, asked the media to avoid transmitting information from the leaked documents and reminded them of their responsibilities given the "seriousness of the election".

Here's the strange thing: Macron actually warned people that claims that he had secret accounts (a big deal in France, as I've said, given that they had a huge (and I do mean huge) political scandal about such accounts from around 2013 to 2014) before word of it was out.

I can't find the article now, but I read a week or 10 days ago that he was warning people not to believe any 11th-hour claims of financial impropriety and specifically told people they would be hearing of that.

Here's what I don't get: Presumably Macron knew he had been hacked before others did.

So I get the warning about the hacked information.

But how did he know that false reports of secret offshore accounts would be inserted amidst the real records?

When you're hacked, you do have an idea of all the real information the hackers could release about you. After all, it's your data. You know basically what it says.

But how do you know, before they release it, the stuff you're claiming is fake that they're going to stuff into it?

If they invented that stuff-- how did you know what the stuff they invented woudl say?

Maybe Macron saw some reports, containing the false information, circulating on internet websites. Maybe French intelligence somehow got a head's up about the plan and told him about it ahead of time.

That could be.

Or, it could be that the reason he knew the leaked emails would include information about secret overseas accounts is because he knew such information was included in the originals of the hacked information.

I'll be curious to watch this one. Now that the embargo is over, French media is, presumably, permitted to discuss the leaked information, and determine if Macron's warning that the stuff that makes him look bad was all forged is actually true. Or not true.

I do know this: If it's true, it's a big problem. The widespread use of secret accounts among French officials was nearly a Watergate level scandal in France, and I'm not sure if the center-right media in France will keep from looking into it. The center-right media in France (weirdly, France does in fact have a major center-right media, though, of course, it's just less socialist than the admitted socialists and communists) will protect him.

They supported him against Le Pen (whom they hate more than the Parti Socialist, of which Macron was a member until he claimed to be an "independent" four years or so ago), but they probably won't support him if there's any there la.

Is there? I have no idea. I just think this question -- how did you know there were going to be "false documents" mixed in with the ones you admit were real, before people knew about them? -- needs to be answered.

Maybe there's an innocent answer (French intelligence alerted him to the forgeries after seeing a preview of them). Maybe there's not.

One mistake I have to correct: Last week I said Macron's new party was called "On Marche," which means "We're moving." I misheard it -- as you all probably know by now, it's En Marche!, or "On the move." "On" and "En" sound alike in French, and I guess I only heard the party's name and didn't read it, or at least hadn't remembered reading it.

One thing the media isn't reporting too much, because they love the "Populism loses, Take That, Trump!" storyline: France had the highest level of blank ballots -- an official "None of the Above" vote -- in history, I think, or at least in decades, at around 25%.

When you hear that Macron got 65% of the vote and Le Pen got 35%, that's the percent of the two party vote they got. That doesn't take into account the 25% no-vote vote. So Macron actually got 65% of the 75% of votes cast for an eligible candidate (somewhere around 50%, I reckon) and Le Pen got something like 27%.

And while the media is loving talking this up as a Fire Which Will Ignite The World Against Trump, hailing Macron as a model for Democrats to follow, they're ignoring a big part of this story: Macron wasn't just a repudiation of Le Pen, he was also a repudiation of both of France's major parties (the center right former UMP called Les Republicaines (LR), and the Parti Socialist (PS)).

Oddly enough, there was a bigger movement on the left to vote None of the Above and cast a blank ballot than on the right. (At least as far as open declaration and marches encouraging that.)

It could turn out to be that Macron got more support from the "anti-socialist" LR than the usual coalition that votes the PS into power.

Les Republicaines didn't make the second ballot largely due to candidate Francois Fillon's own financial scandal (claims his wife held a no-show job with the government). The Parti Socialist didn't make the second round due to the disastrous outcome of the Parti Socialist's last five years in power.

Macron, a socialist, made silly claims that he represented a third way and was running against both major parties.

So it seems to me that you can make the case that Macron is just as much a Trump analogue as a repudiation of Trump.

One last point:

I don't think the FN can ever win in France (all other parties vote against them if they make it to the second-round two-party runoff). The fact that they could only get around 27% of all votes (from the entire pool of votes, including the blank ballots) kind of shows what their ceiling is.

Always happens. People thought FN could grab a bunch of regional seats when they made the second ballot in like 6 or 7 regions in 2015, they only came away with a single win out of those. FN's 27% is enough to finish in 2nd or even 1st place in the first round, with a very divided field of a half dozen or full dozen parties, but it just cannot win many 2-party 2nd-round contests.

But I'm also now wondering if LR can ever win if it doesn't steal some issues from FN -- like an anti-EU plank, or being more restrictionist on immigration -- without all the baggage and actual racist elements of FN.

Marine Le Pen does not seem to be a racist (though I can't follow her actual words in interviews), but her father definitely was (very anti-Jewish, for one), and every once in a while there's an embarrassing story about some FN official turning out to have a prior history as a skinhead or something.

While FN cannot win many races in the near future, it's possible they can win in, say, 20 years -- early analysis of returns suggests that up to 44% of young French people voted for her in the election, and very few older people. Young people presumably do not have the negative emotional reaction to the name "Le Pen" caused mainly by her father.

But that kind of plan for the FN winning in the future is like the prog "Coalition of the Ascendant" seizing complete power -- they just have to wait for Old People to Die Off In Massive Numbers, and then hope nothing else much changes politically over the course of 20-30 years.

Posted by: Ace at 05:02 PM

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1 I'm getting thread whiplash

Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at May 09, 2017 04:55 PM (K7T1G)

2 Is this for real?

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2017 04:56 PM (HgMAr)

3 Lots to read today

Posted by: NCKate at May 09, 2017 04:56 PM (VM5D5)

4 We are here now.

Thank you.

Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2017 04:56 PM (qUNWi)

5 Corgis called

Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at May 09, 2017 04:57 PM (K7T1G)

6 Sure, if you think the only solutions to France's problems are democratic ones, then an FN victory is at least ten years off.

If you can see the Macron fraud failing completely before the decade is up, problems will need to be fixed a lot sooner than that.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2017 04:57 PM (Nh8W2)

7 Some of those records have been confirmed to be real -- while others,
presumably those which detail his secret accounts in offshore banks --
he implies are false.

Now why am I reluctant to believe that?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2017 04:57 PM (mpXpK)

8 I was always worried during the WikiLeaks that some fake info was going to be thrown in there and then the whole thing would be roundly dismissed.

It' actually surprising to me Hillary and Co didn't make the claim some of it was fake.

Posted by: Maritime at May 09, 2017 04:59 PM (Y9y7c)

9 Let's Move!

Posted by: Mooch at May 09, 2017 04:59 PM (IqV8l)

10 Is this thread going to stay?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 09, 2017 04:59 PM (QQ+il)

11 We will not let Fabrique Nationale win.

Posted by: Heckler & Koch at May 09, 2017 05:00 PM (nDdGQ)

12 All is as it was.

Posted by: The City on the Edge of Forever at May 09, 2017 05:00 PM (QQ+il)

13 The threads are coming through the walls!

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 09, 2017 05:00 PM (S2V6F)

14
Consider this: if Jeremiah Wright's taped "sermons" leaked in 2016 instead of in 2008, the fake news would've said Russians "hacked" the election.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:00 PM (cPF+x)

15 Posted by: Maritime at May 09, 2017 04:59 PM (Y9y7c)

+++

My fear, too.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 09, 2017 05:00 PM (hiHQz)

16 @8 they did but then had to own up to it.

Wikileaks has not put up fakes. Though I don't think this was Wikileaks.

Posted by: blaster at May 09, 2017 05:01 PM (WLeoI)

17 What is Not Pithy, Alex?

Posted by: garrett on Jeopardy at May 09, 2017 05:01 PM (P0Sw/)

18 they just have to wait for Old People to Die Off In Massive Numbers

Come on, Global Warming!

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 09, 2017 05:01 PM (QQ+il)

19 Never hurts to top off the oil.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2017 05:01 PM (HgMAr)

20 Macron strikes me as an inexperienced twat, basically the French clone of Obama except he is white and has weird mommy issues. I don't see this ending well for him or France.

Posted by: IC at May 09, 2017 05:01 PM (a0IVu)

21 20 Macron strikes me as an inexperienced twat, basically the French clone of Obama except he is white and has weird mommy issues. I don't see this ending well for him or France.
Posted by: IC at May 09, 2017 05:01 PM (a0IVu)

++++

Agree.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 09, 2017 05:02 PM (hiHQz)

22 >>Macron strikes me as an inexperienced twat, basically the French clone of Obama

Obama Blanc

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2017 05:02 PM (P0Sw/)

23 To quote an "expert" you get the politicians you deserve." Well an expert in his own mind anyway...

Posted by: it's me donna at May 09, 2017 05:03 PM (O2RFr)

24 Has the President of France really mattered much since, umm, ever?

Posted by: blaster at May 09, 2017 05:03 PM (WLeoI)

25 Strange things afoot at the ~~Circle K~~ HQ.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2017 05:03 PM (kTF2Z)

26 I got nothing. It is all a big mystery to me.

Posted by: Frenzel Le Indolant at May 09, 2017 05:03 PM (Zcg6E)

27 France est le boned.

Au revoir.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 09, 2017 05:04 PM (M5NPS)

28 So, how do political scandals work in France? If the stuff he says is fake news turns out to be real, will they be prosecuting him? Or is it more like a vote of no confidence and then new elections.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2017 05:04 PM (R+30W)

29 I doubt France has 20-30 years. By then it will be Francestan.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 09, 2017 05:04 PM (wTwJ2)

30 I find it hard to believe anything coming ut of the media over there right now. But that isn't any different than what is coming out of out MFM.

You can lay money on anything coming out of the three alphabets about Trump is a lie.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 09, 2017 05:04 PM (mpXpK)

31 Has the President of France really mattered much since, umm, ever?

Not really... Just annoying little pests.... German rules Europe...

Posted by: it's me donna at May 09, 2017 05:04 PM (O2RFr)

32 While FN cannot win many races in the near future, it's possible they can win in, say, 20 years

There won't be anything to win in 20 years. Not French any way

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:05 PM (493sH)

33 My mom...er...wife showed me how to wipe my server, just like Hillary.

Posted by: Macron at May 09, 2017 05:05 PM (Tyii7)

34 Odds he finishes his term?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 09, 2017 05:05 PM (9krrF)

35 Macaroni is boy toy. Or is toy boy?

In other boy news, the Daily Mail has an article about Sheppy quoting him as "living with the man I love."

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 09, 2017 05:05 PM (8O3HH)

36
France's resentment for USA and their hatred for Israel is why they voted for Macron -- there are no other reasons.

They made their bed...so fuck them.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:06 PM (cPF+x)

37
If I had a son like Macron, I'd be sorely tempted. So would he.

Posted by: Kay Parker at May 09, 2017 05:07 PM (HTdUD)

38 What will happen to Europe?

Devolve back into city states I suppose.

Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2017 05:08 PM (qUNWi)

39 Macron strikes me as an inexperienced twat, basically the French clone of Obama except he is white and has weird mommy issues. I don't see this ending well for him or France.
Posted by: IC

Thank you IC. I was wondering how this movie was going to end and didn't have patience to read it all.

Posted by: Cheri at May 09, 2017 05:08 PM (oiNtH)

40 Honestly, it the fucking French.

They suck. Their language sucks bong water, they completely, and in every way, SUCK.

I care?

Nope. Fuck them. Forever.

Suck it, frogs. You. Fucking. Suck. and are not worth any effort, whatsoever.

Fuck.

You.

French.

Faggots.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 09, 2017 05:08 PM (EjfPg)

41
Why do I have a feeling that shepard smith was either being extorted by a homosexual prostitute or is about to be sued by a homosexual prostitute?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:08 PM (cPF+x)

42 France's resentment for USA and their hatred for Israel is why they voted for Macron -- there are no other reasons.

They made their bed...so fuck them.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:06 PM (cPF+x)

That vote tells me they hate themselves too. Stop the invasion or die and they chose die just like the Dutch

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:09 PM (493sH)

43
When's the last time France was on the right side of any issue??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:09 PM (cPF+x)

44 Liberte Egalite Fraternite

Ok. Well maybe not the first part so much

Posted by: Marcus T at May 09, 2017 05:09 PM (WYzZJ)

45 The French are fried....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 09, 2017 05:09 PM (7uYFy)

46 The LePen FN will not win in 15-20 years. By then there will be a French Caliphate, or a civil war.

Just think, a civil war in a nuclear country. Whee!

Posted by: rd at May 09, 2017 05:10 PM (iT57s)

47 Honestly, I try but I can't really follow French politics.

Sounds like a shitty country full of shitty people though.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 09, 2017 05:10 PM (wmaTe)

48 What would have happened if we just let Germany win WWI?

Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2017 05:10 PM (qUNWi)

49 Liberte Egalite Fraternite

Is that a new college frat?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 09, 2017 05:10 PM (7uYFy)

50 47 Honestly, I try but I can't really follow French politics.

Sounds like a shitty country full of shitty people though.

Oui...

Posted by: The French at May 09, 2017 05:10 PM (O2RFr)

51 Meanwhile, jetting into Paris is the JEF while news reports twiddle twaddle over his open shirt and tre' cool shades. He is going to do what he does best, lecture and bore everyone to death. Don't forget the selfies!

Posted by: Cheri at May 09, 2017 05:11 PM (oiNtH)

52 When's the last time France was on the right side of any issue??

The Iron Age.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 09, 2017 05:11 PM (Tyii7)

53 "Let me tell you the ways Donald Trump is going to fail!"

"Sir, I don't know anything about that I was just asking you if you wanted paper or plastic."

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 09, 2017 05:11 PM (4ErVI)

54
Speaking of Sheppy did anyone else see the Diesel ad on the home page of two guys kissing (one in Arab head dress) with the caption - Make Love Not Walls. I don't know what Diesel does but I'm sure that will bring in tons of new business especially with Muslims

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:11 PM (493sH)

55 While FN cannot win many races in the near future, it's possible they can win in, say, 20 years -- early analysis of returns suggests that up to 44% of young French people voted for her in the election, and very few older people. Young people presumably do not have the negative emotional reaction to the name "Le Pen" caused mainly by her father.

Not enough French youth of the non-Muslim immigrant variety.

Demographics for Europe are set. There are four possible futures for Europe:

Europe becomes an Islamic Caliphate peacefully;

Europe becomes an Islamic Caliphate after a failed anti-Muslim uprising;

Europe shows it can still do genocide like they used to after a successful Muslim uprising; or (and this is least likely)

Europe is partitioned between the U.S. and Russia... after the Muslims and anti-Muslims destroy each other by attrition.

Place your bets!

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 09, 2017 05:11 PM (rUIbB)

56 Ace,

Turnout was also down substantially from previous elections. I think turnout was down 10-15% compared to last time?

Posted by: rd at May 09, 2017 05:11 PM (iT57s)

57
In 20-30 years, France will be the Islamic Republic of France (or whatever the Moors wanted to call it pre 1492 had they conquered it like al-Andalus, Spain).

It's over.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:11 PM (mbhDw)

58 Honestly, I try but I can't really follow French politics.

--

I have the same problem with the Brits.

Posted by: Frenzel Le Indolant at May 09, 2017 05:12 PM (Zcg6E)

59 Some of those records have been confirmed to be real -- while others,
presumably those which detail his secret accounts in offshore banks --
he implies are false.

Any of his GILF pron links in there? I'll bet he's got some real good ones.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 09, 2017 05:12 PM (qJhUV)

60
Les poulets de la France sont venus � la maison pour roost!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (mbhDw)

61 In 20-30 years, France will be the Islamic Republic of France (or whatever the Moors wanted to call it pre 1492 had they conquered it like al-Andalus, Spain).

It's over.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:11 PM (mbhDw)

Charles Martel: *spinning like guy in his grave really pissed off*

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (493sH)

62 I'm dizzy now!

Posted by: Killerdog at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (OBznz)

63 In 20-30 years, France will be the Islamic Republic of France (or whatever the Moors wanted to call it pre 1492 had they conquered it like al-Andalus, Spain).

It's over.

The Brits are gonna join them...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (O2RFr)

64 While FN cannot win many races in the near future, it's possible they can win in, say, 20 years

There won't be anything to win in 20 years. Not French any way
Posted by: TheQuietMan

__________

The hope is that the center-right parties of Europe co-opt the message and at least make some movement into the direction of not letting their country become a Muslim majority.

There was at least some evidence that has been happening. UKIP is responsible for Brexit and a Tory Government that formally went through with it despite not having any real power.

Posted by: Maritime at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (Y9y7c)

65 47 Honestly, I try but I can't really follow French politics.

Sounds like a shitty country full of shitty people though.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 09, 2017 05:10 PM (wmaT

+++

My feeling is that when the western sphere of Europe relentlessly allows Islam to overrun their countries, everyone else will suffer in some form or another.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (hiHQz)

66
Even during WWII, lots of French aided their nazi occupiers.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (cPF+x)

67 When's the last time France was on the right side of any issue??
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:09 PM (cPF+x)

Never. Now, there are those who will say ..... our side..... in the Revolutionary War.

Well.................. fuck them. Paid back 2X's over.

Fuck. You. Frogs.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (EjfPg)

68 I've said it before, and I'll say it again. We need to plan for the following vis a vis Europe's inevitable collapse:

1st, grab the French nukes (and nuke material in other Euro countries);

2nd, grab all movable cultural artifacts and gold we can; and

3rd, grab all the non-European/continental possessions of EU member countries (e.g. Denmark, France, Netherlands, Spain, Portugual, &c.).

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 09, 2017 05:14 PM (rUIbB)

69 Any of his GILF pron links in there? I'll bet he's got some real good ones.
Posted by: tu3031 at May 09, 2017 05:12 PM (qJhUV)

Dans le cul.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:14 PM (mbhDw)

70 It's over, Johnny.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at May 09, 2017 05:14 PM (Tyii7)

71 66
Even during WWII, lots of French aided their nazi occupiers.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (cPF+x)

The French government, without any prodding from the Nazis, took it upon themselves to round up their Jews and ship them off to Auschwitz.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:15 PM (mbhDw)

72 20 Macron strikes me as an inexperienced twat, basically the French clone of Obama except he is white and has weird mommy issues. I don't see this ending well for him or France.
Posted by: IC at May 09, 2017 05:01 PM (a0IVu)
__________________

Macron is smarter than Obama. Macron is a former investment banker, and was an Inspector of Finances in the French Ministry of Economy.

If I had to bet on it, I'd bet that Macron does indeed have secret offshore accounts.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 09, 2017 05:15 PM (riF5p)

73 What would have happened if we just let Germany win WWI?

Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2017 05:10 PM (qUNWi)

They grabbed a ton of eastern Europe after the Russians packed it in. Not sure what they would have done if Britain and France lost. Taken more of France?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:15 PM (493sH)

74 Even during WWII, lots of French aided their nazi occupiers.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (cPF+x)

Roughly half.

I'm being nice.

Fuck them. I hate the French, and everything about them.

Everything.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 09, 2017 05:16 PM (EjfPg)

75 I wouldn't worry about France, oh no, Macaroon has come out and talked about the most serious problem facing them....... Climate change...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 09, 2017 05:16 PM (O2RFr)

76 France sure makes it hard for you not to hate them. They refuse to be a full member of NATO after their ass was saved twice by us but they're all in on the European Union. They refused to allow flyover space to our planes when we wanted to strike Libya but begged us to use those same planes later to bomb the crap out of Libya to protect their oil contracts. They constantly bad mouth the USA and are socialist / communist apologists and adherents.

Just talked myself into hating them more .

Posted by: Conan the Presbyterian at May 09, 2017 05:16 PM (2DYky)

77 62 I'm dizzy now!
Posted by: Killerdog at May 09, 2017 05:13 PM (OBznz)

"I hear ya, dude."

- - Tommy Roe

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:16 PM (mbhDw)

78 So, if I understand this correctly, we just reversed the slingshot around the sun and picked up enough speed to slingshot our course from the past and rejoin the present, right?

Posted by: Crusader at May 09, 2017 05:16 PM (ewSN2)

79 "Young people presumably do not have the negative emotional reaction to the name "Le Pen" caused mainly by her father."

Young people and old people alike know this: if France sticks its head in the sand, and doesn't confront its problems, there will be peace and coexistence... long enough for the old people to retire and die.

It is the young people who will be stuck with the consequences. That is why young people went for FN.

Nothing redpills people faster than having a Muslim invasion in their own cities.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at May 09, 2017 05:17 PM (BHpB+)

80 I wouldn't worry about France, oh no, Macaroon has come out and talked about the most serious problem facing them....... Climate change...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 09, 2017 05:16 PM (O2RFr)

I wonder where the millions of savages raping and pillaging the country fall on the list of serious problems?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:17 PM (493sH)

81
If the Appeals Court rules against Trump, that sets a precedent which says Trump Cannot Do ANYTHING At All Because Trump.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:17 PM (cPF+x)

82 If I had to bet on it, I'd bet that Macron does indeed have secret offshore accounts.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer

_____

If you have any money in Europe, you have offshore accounts. It's very widespread, at least in my dealings.

Posted by: Maritime at May 09, 2017 05:17 PM (Y9y7c)

83
I wonder where the millions of savages raping and pillaging the country fall on the list of serious problems?

Hahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 09, 2017 05:18 PM (O2RFr)

84 If you have any money in Europe, you have offshore accounts.

Never know when you'll have to run.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 09, 2017 05:19 PM (qJhUV)

85 There was a story in the UK Times ( http://tinyurl.com/krggt5e ) on April 18th that said Macron on Sunday April 16th denounced attacks on him on the internet for having secret offshore accounts.

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 09, 2017 05:19 PM (d3wbb)

86 If the Appeals Court rules against Trump, that sets a precedent which says Trump Cannot Do ANYTHING At All Because Trump.

I read in the arguments today they more or less said if it were Hillary it would be legal but because it's Trump no...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 09, 2017 05:19 PM (O2RFr)

87 Globalistd like Macron have turned democracy into one of the biggest hustles.

Somebody check Montesquieu's great I think he turned over

Posted by: Marcus T at May 09, 2017 05:19 PM (WYzZJ)

88 We knew in advance that Hillary was corrupt as hell, they still ran her.
"Clinton Cash" exposed the foundation charade, and other competent reviews show it may have been MUCH more than a couple billion, as money FOR the foundation did not have to go THROUGH the foundations, leaving room for billions to be gone with the wind.

Eurocrat bankers getting caught with foreign hidden accounts ... that is the norm. Of course their pet banker, now president would be in the thick of it.

Speaking of which ... what about that unreported $250M loan the Kuchner brothers had underwritten by Soros. Is that already old news. Laura Ingraham this morning on Fox added that a couple of her WH sources said it was true that Kuchner had called Canadian officials to have them call Daddy Trump. She was saying how bad that is ... he has no business doing that. Maybe sugar Daddy Soros suggested he do it as a return favor.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2017 05:20 PM (TmCOq)

89 OT: Huma backed up other devices with classified information onto Weiner's laptop. That's even worse than forwarding emails.

https://twitter.com/LegInsurrection/status/862056558938771460

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 09, 2017 05:20 PM (rUIbB)

90
Macron strikes me as an inexperienced twat, basically the French clone
of Obama except he is white and has weird mommy issues. I don't see this
ending well for him or France.

Posted by: IC at May 09, 2017 05:01 PM (a0IVu)

I think there's a good chance he's gone within two years.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 09, 2017 05:20 PM (S2V6F)

91 France: Our Oldest Enemy

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 09, 2017 05:20 PM (QQ+il)

92
If you have any money in Europe, you have offshore accounts. It's very widespread, at least in my dealings.
____________________

Yep, that's why I'm betting he does have the accounts. He's no dummy, at least financially speaking.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 09, 2017 05:20 PM (riF5p)

93
I read in the arguments today they more or less said if it were Hillary it would be legal but because it's Trump no...

Yeah, Ace made a post on it but he buried it. But that's conclusion. Trump is not allowed to do Anything because he's Trump, so sayeth the Courts.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:21 PM (cPF+x)

94 If the Appeals Court rules against Trump, that sets a precedent which says Trump Cannot Do ANYTHING At All Because Trump.

I read in the arguments today they more or less said if it were Hillary it would be legal but because it's Trump no...

It would be a shame if some folks registered their unhappiness with the twats in robes that issue bullshit rulings like that.

Posted by: Crusader at May 09, 2017 05:21 PM (ewSN2)

95 Yep, that's why I'm betting he does have the accounts. He's no dummy, at least financially speaking.

At least his crypt keeper "wife" probably does...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 09, 2017 05:21 PM (O2RFr)

96 Just talked myself into hating them more .
Posted by: Conan the Presbyterian at May 09, 2017 05:16 PM (2DYky)

Yes, and the useless shitbag DeGaulle derived every benefit from those that put him in a position of power only to thumb his nose at those paying the bill.

God, I so hate those pieces of shit. Fuck Europe and fuck France, in particular.

Yes, ....that includes England. Fuck them.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 09, 2017 05:23 PM (EjfPg)

97 God, I so hate those pieces of shit. Fuck Europe and fuck France, in particular.

Yes, ....that includes England. Fuck them.

Thanks, we will

Posted by: the Muslims at May 09, 2017 05:24 PM (O2RFr)

98 I'm inclined to believe that France will be the Emirate of France within 50 years.
On the other hand , Muslims are experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They will over-reach.
I'm betting on lots of killing at some point with the french finally waking up---just before it's too late.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 09, 2017 05:24 PM (7uYFy)

99 in 20 - 30 years, France will be so F'ed, it won't matter who gets elected.

not sure it matters even today.

and we aren't much better off here, what with the courts and the bureaucracy full of leftards.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2017 05:25 PM (8WVNP)

100 84 If you have any money in Europe, you have offshore accounts.

Never know when you'll have to run.
____________________

It's more of a tax dodge than anything else. You know these socialists. They're always in favor of high taxes, so long as they are not the ones paying them.

Ted Kennedy kept money in offshore accounts, to avoid U.S. taxes. And taxes in the EU are higher.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 09, 2017 05:25 PM (riF5p)

101 Here's something to brighten everyone's day:

http://tinyurl.com/n6uxwem

Posted by: Country Singer at May 09, 2017 05:25 PM (GUBah)

102 Yes, and the useless s***bag DeGaulle derived every benefit from those
that put him in a position of power only to thumb his nose at those
paying the bill.

Hmmmmm, remind you of anyone?

Posted by: pep at May 09, 2017 05:25 PM (LAe3v)

103 Thanks, we will
Posted by: the Muslims at May 09, 2017 05:24 PM (O2RFr)

Well on their way.

Idiots..............

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 09, 2017 05:25 PM (EjfPg)

104 JJ @ 57- islamic republic of france in 20 years?
Brother, that's America in 30 years if we don't get off our asses.

Posted by: Eromero at May 09, 2017 05:25 PM (zLDYs)

105 I'm inclined to believe that France will be the Emirate of France within 50 years.
On the other hand , Muslims are experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They will over-reach.
I'm betting on lots of killing at some point with the french finally waking up---just before it's too late.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 09, 2017 05:24 PM (7uYFy)

Well they better dig up Charlie Martel or Charlemagne to go ass kicking through the country because that's the only way they're getting it back

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:26 PM (493sH)

106 I wonder if France is going to tear down all the statues of Charles Martel and his grandson Charlemagne?

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 09, 2017 05:26 PM (2DYky)

107 So am I understanding correctly Macron has his wicket in an old snatch and accounts in new holes off shore?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:26 PM (SjImc)

108 How to boil a frog...
Seems apropos.

Posted by: Viva la frogs at May 09, 2017 05:26 PM (g4YTo)

109 I feel sorry for people out in the French flyover country. Back when I was in the Corps we were doing field shit in the Normandy area. This older guy comes out waving a little American flag on a wooden stick. He explained, in broken English, that this was the flag they gave him in 44 to wave as the Americans came ashore. I thought that was pretty cool and I'm a cynical bastard.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2017 05:27 PM (kTF2Z)

110 I agree France is done, Sharia will make it a living hell.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2017 05:27 PM (Ot7+c)

111 On the other hand , Muslims are experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They will over-reach.

Like, perhaps, beheading a Russian military man? I look forward to lots of body parts in the mail.

Posted by: pep at May 09, 2017 05:27 PM (LAe3v)

112 " If the Appeals Court rules against Trump, that sets a precedent which says Trump Cannot Do ANYTHING At All Because Trump."

it would have to go to SCOTUS before any final precedent is set. In reality it does not matter if he just stopped Muslims ... there is no religious right to immigrate, no right at all.

On top of all that, the threat of Islamists from certain countries could not be more real. The watch list is 15% from refugees. The judges are the ones with the "bad heart" for American safety and for all things Trump. SCOTUS needs to clear that up.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 09, 2017 05:27 PM (TmCOq)

113 "I hear ya, dude."
- - Tommy Roe
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:16 PM

What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: The Shondells at May 09, 2017 05:27 PM (nDdGQ)

114 I wonder if France is going to tear down all the statues of Charles Martel and his grandson Charlemagne?

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 09, 2017 05:26 PM (2DYky)

I'm sure they are triggers for the Muzzies so better get rid of them to spare their feelings.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:27 PM (493sH)

115 pleh pleh
Comment mon cul vous gout Yankee bastards?

Posted by: M. Macron at May 09, 2017 05:28 PM (X+rUO)

116 I'm a cynical bastard.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2017 05:27 PM (kTF2Z)

I knew you were a bastard since I am also, but cynical? Nah, The hell you say?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:28 PM (SjImc)

117 On the bright side, the Muslims make the French smell better by comparison.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 09, 2017 05:28 PM (M5NPS)

118 remember this gem from 2006 - we're the party of fiscal responsibility

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at May 09, 2017 05:28 PM (DpOmP)

119 2 thoughts...
1. France seems to have resentment issues with us for saving their bacon twice in the 20th century, but yet had a real lack of problem with German occupation during WW2, the minor resistance aside. Passive aggressive much?
2. Economically speaking, the difference between Le Pen and Macron seem small. Where their parties seem to part company is on globalism vs nationalism.
France as a country has the feel of a brooding 16 yr old, wanting the comfort and security of Nato and the Nanny, but participating in self destructive behavior and doing anything it can to rebel from the good advice of its elders. France isn't a mature and rational country. Its a friggin' teenager. And from my perspective, somebody else's kid, and despite it's situation being sad and regrettable, is someone else's problem..

Posted by: The Lonebadger at May 09, 2017 05:28 PM (m4pt8)

120 I read in the arguments today they more or less said if it were Hillary it would be legal but because it's Trump no...
Posted by: It's Me donna

_______

I had to be that guy, but doesn't that sort of undermine what we've been preaching about "original intent" ?

But it's funny how quickly left-wing judges can become originalists when it suits them.

They are essentially saying "this is what Trump was trying to do, which is illegal, even though it is worded in a legal way"

Posted by: Maritime at May 09, 2017 05:29 PM (Y9y7c)

121 Enjoy Sharia law, rapes, and destroying the future of your children and grand children (who will be taped and treated like anaimals).

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 09, 2017 05:29 PM (2qHjF)

122 Brother, that's America in 30 years if we don't get off our asses.

Posted by: Eromero at May 09, 2017 05:25 PM (zLDYs)

I went to a mall over the weekend and it was like a third world hellhole. Hardly anyone was speaking English and plenty of women covered from head to toe

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:29 PM (493sH)

123 It's gonna be a bitch to ride the Tour De France in them muslim robes and scandels

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:30 PM (SjImc)

124 113
"I hear ya, dude."

- - Tommy Roe

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:16 PM

What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: The Shondells

So close.

Posted by: Tommy James at May 09, 2017 05:30 PM (LAe3v)

125 Hmmm.... I saw different numbers about the French election....

25% did not vote at all... 8% voted but left President Blank... 3% voted but disfigured the ballot...

Meaning 36% said None of the Above...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 09, 2017 05:30 PM (NgKpN)

126 So am I understanding correctly Macron has his wicket in an old snatch and accounts in new holes off shore?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:26 PM

It's a sticky wicket that doesn't fall to a wicked googly.

Posted by: Ye Olde Cricketeer at May 09, 2017 05:30 PM (nDdGQ)

127 An important thing to note about that stat of Le Pen winning 44% of the 18-25 vote is that close to 25% of that age group is Muslim. One could therefore extrapolate that a healthy majority of infidel French youths know full well what's happening.

Also, Le Pen's niece Marion who seems to be next in line for the party is basically a modern-day Joan of Arc (and a total hottie).

Things will get a lot worse before they get better, but I wouldn't count the French out just yet.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at May 09, 2017 05:30 PM (rX06+)

128 Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:26 PM (493sH)

Heh

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 09, 2017 05:31 PM (2DYky)

129 Firanjistan.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 09, 2017 05:31 PM (9krrF)

130 Question: Why is it an embarrassment for FN that some party official is a former skinhead, but not for other parties when party officials turn out to be former communists?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2017 05:31 PM (j+p5g)

131 114 I wonder if France is going to tear down all the statues of Charles Mattel and his grandson.

They are almost as bad as a Confederate flag so yes, they should.

Posted by: Nikki Haley at May 09, 2017 05:32 PM (X+rUO)

132 Question: Why is it an embarrassment for FN that some party official is a former skinhead, but not for other parties when party officials turn out to be former communists?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2017 05:31 PM (j+p5g)

Beats the shit out of me. Ask Bernie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:32 PM (SjImc)

133 130 Question: Why is it an embarrassment for FN that some party official is a former skinhead, but not for other parties when party officials turn out to be former communists?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2017 05:31 PM (j+p5g)

This is also true in America, hence the Obamunist as President.

But in Europe, even more so.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 09, 2017 05:32 PM (ujg0T)

134 The way the radio news put it a sizable part of the population voted but didn't vote for the presidential candidate.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2017 05:32 PM (Ot7+c)

135 I read in the arguments today they more or less said if it were Hillary it would be legal but because it's Trump no...
Posted by: It's Me donna

_______

I had to be that guy, but doesn't that sort of undermine what we've been preaching about "original intent" ?

But it's funny how quickly left-wing judges can become originalists when it suits them.

They are essentially saying "this is what Trump was trying to do, which is illegal, even though it is worded in a legal way"
Posted by: Maritime at May 09, 2017 05:29 PM (Y9y7c)

It's all about being "tainted by animus".

Basically they want anything Trump does or opines about to be declared doubleplusungood and thus beyond allowability in a democracy.

More on the more general Progressive game-plan here: http://preview.tinyurl.com/zy7g6xb

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 09, 2017 05:32 PM (rUIbB)

136 There are actually a couple things that Europe has in it's favor that we wouldn't if we were confronted with the same Muslim threat.
1.--No first amendment--you can't print anything you want
2.--No second amendment-it's not going to be easy for the Muslims of France to get a hold of some guns
3.--No" freedom of religion" as we understand it. France can ban the burkha and Swiitzerland can ban minarets. Hell, Italy doesn't even recognize Islam as a religion.
4. There still beats-faintly--in the heart of every Englishman, Frenchman or German that down deep they are English, French or German. It's not like here where anyone can be an "American." European countries are not 'nations of immigrants" the way we are.

It will be bloody.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 09, 2017 05:33 PM (7uYFy)

137 Napoleon is probably rolling in his grave

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2017 05:34 PM (Ot7+c)

138 I haven't read everything because I'm a Moron, but it's been pointed out that Obama endorsed, and Hillary cheered, the folks who are threatening regular Joe Blows with prosecution and jail time for dissemination of information on government figures, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at May 09, 2017 05:34 PM (fD1ST)

139 Sorry but I want France to go into the shitter. Yeah I know it would have a domino effect but I'm at the point of cutting my nose off to spite the world.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 09, 2017 05:34 PM (2DYky)

140 "130
Question: Why is it an embarrassment for FN that some party official is a
former skinhead, but not for other parties when party officials turn
out to be former communists?"

Because we all know that the Communists really meant well and wanted the Best for the People, even if they went about it badly. Good people with a few quirks and some bad apples, dontcha know. At least they never said they cared about that filthy filthy money like those grubby capitalists. Now those dastardly skinheads, on the other hand - know what I mean, know what I mean? I think you do!

Posted by: Chris Matthews at May 09, 2017 05:34 PM (p8g4F)

141 When the 12th Imam comes, none of this will matter

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at May 09, 2017 05:34 PM (DpOmP)

142 Speaking of Sheppy did anyone else see the Diesel ad on the home page of two guys kissing (one in Arab head dress) with the caption - Make Love Not Walls. I don't know what Diesel does but I'm sure that will bring in tons of new business especially with Muslims

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:11 PM (493sH)

Many ads are preference-based. Diesel makes expensive casual wear and cologne, stuff like that. If you've been shopping for higher-end casual clothes, then ads like Diesel's will start showing up.

What bothers me is when I'm just thinking about buying something--like that Sig Sauer P938 I had my eye on (and finally bought)--and handgun and outdoors-related ads pop up out of nowhere as I'm thinking about it. Spooky.

Posted by: troyriser at May 09, 2017 05:35 PM (Fw5cQ)

143 It will be bloody.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 09, 2017 05:33 PM (7uYFy)

These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one. You know, you gotta stop them at the beginning. Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for trouble.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:35 PM (SjImc)

144 Comey resigns.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2017 05:36 PM (kTF2Z)

145 Comey resigns.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

Legit?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 09, 2017 05:36 PM (9krrF)

146
Comey resigns.

Real or Fake News?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:36 PM (cPF+x)

147 Seeing that Comey's been fired or resigned. Not clear which.

Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2017 05:36 PM (hdpay)

148 Hillary: If any women EVER say that my husband, Bill Clinton, raped them, they are lying and are political enemies!

A chorus of Bill's rape victims: Bill raped all of us!! Many times! We have proof!

Hillary: They are lying and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the slander laws!

/and that's how you do it. Macron is a Clinton protege

Posted by: shibumi at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (8zWAk)

149 Reporting on FNC right now.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (kTF2Z)

150
Well, if he resigned, it means he was "gonna get" fired.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (cPF+x)

151 I was the third way... Reggie, his lover, and I was the third...

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (DpOmP)

152 Trump has fired Comey.

Is he allowed to do that?

Posted by: Ripley at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (1BQGO)

153 Seeing that Comey's been fired or resigned. Not clear which.
--
Drudge headline is fired.

Posted by: shibumi at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (8zWAk)

154 These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one. You know, you gotta stop them at the beginning. Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for trouble.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:35 PM (SjImc)

Now come over here. Look, you never know when you are gonna be cooking for a bunch of guys....

Posted by: Peter Clemenza at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (7uYFy)

155 Oh, shit, not resigned but fired.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (kTF2Z)

156 Comey resigns.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

Drudge says Trump fired?

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (HTdUD)

157
144 Comey resigns.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2017 05:36 PM (kTF2Z

A festivus miracle....?

Posted by: The Lonebadger at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (m4pt8)

158
These hacks only resign when a firing is imminent.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (cPF+x)

159 So Marine Le Pen has a lot of daddy baggage just like Rand Paul does. To make it worse, her dad said don't vote for her and that she was supremely unqualified.

Thanks, Dad! Ah well, Macron has vowed to implement the Longshanks solution -- The problem with France is it's full of French.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 09, 2017 05:38 PM (wTwJ2)

160 Drudge says Trump fired him.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 09, 2017 05:38 PM (qJhUV)

161 Good. Comey's gone.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 09, 2017 05:38 PM (HiDrR)

162 AP sez Teh Donald fired Comey...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 09, 2017 05:38 PM (9krrF)

163 OT:

BREAKING: FBI Director Jim Comey has been fired

https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/862060717037559808

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 09, 2017 05:38 PM (rUIbB)

164 Trump has fired Comey.

Is he allowed to do that?
Posted by: Ripley at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (1BQGO)

Shit+ Fan.....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 09, 2017 05:38 PM (7uYFy)

165 Trump has fired Comey.

Is he allowed to do that?

Posted by: Ripley at May 09, 2017 05:37 PM (1BQGO)

A judge in San Fran/Hawaii/Seattle says no so he can stay

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 09, 2017 05:38 PM (493sH)

166 Comey will now join the Hillary '20! Campaign.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM (oVJmc)

167 So, housecleaning at FBI please?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM (9krrF)

168 Drudge is reporting that Trump just fired Comey.

Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM (ukNFU)

169
144 Comey resigns.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2017 05:36 PM (kTF2Z

I expect Captain Obvious memes to flow forth...

Posted by: The Lonebadger at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM (m4pt8)

170 FIRES

Posted by: J Edgar at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM (DpOmP)

171 YOU NEXT, CLAPPER!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM (oVJmc)

172 FOX Business is saying "dismissed."

Posted by: IrishEi at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM (HiDrR)

173 just saw copy of WH announcement.

Pretty blunt. No nicety's or thanks.

Just that he's been fired on recommendation from DOJ.

Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM (hdpay)

174 Good. Comey sucks

I hope THIS is just the beginning and PDT cleans house

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM (SjImc)

175 For those of you who have been wondering where Sessions has been, he's been heard from.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM (kTF2Z)

176 WH Announced they had FIRED Director Comey (WaTimes)

Posted by: J Edgar at May 09, 2017 05:40 PM (DpOmP)

177 At the gym and, of course, CNN is on. They say he was fired. I say about time!

Posted by: Tuna at May 09, 2017 05:40 PM (NIrI2)

178 Comey Fired!

AFT!!!

Posted by: rd at May 09, 2017 05:40 PM (iT57s)

179 What bothers me is when I'm just thinking about buying something--like that Sig Sauer P938 I had my eye on (and finally bought)--and handgun and outdoors-related ads pop up out of nowhere as I'm thinking about it. Spooky.

Posted by: troyriser at May 09, 2017 05:35 PM (Fw5cQ)

-

You're definitely being tracked, but don't overthink it. A gun ad will always seem relevant because there is probably no time you're no thinking about buying a gun.

Bewbs work the same way, but the ads are more embarrassing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at May 09, 2017 05:40 PM (fD1ST)

180
Keep this in mind: Democrats DEMANDED Comey be fired last October.

Now let's watch Democrats complain about Comey getting fired...

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:40 PM (cPF+x)

181 Hey I could use a Job

I am now the Director of Training for my Command

Director of The FBI would also fit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:40 PM (SjImc)

182
Trump got the Fries at Coney Island? Wha. . .???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:40 PM (mbhDw)

183 For those of you who have been wondering where Sessions has been, he's been heard from.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

Thank G-d. Tired of looking at the back of milk cartons for his face.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 09, 2017 05:40 PM (HTdUD)

184 Trump has fired Comey

only question is "what took him so long?"

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (FZYNt)

185 May have had something to do with the inaccurate testimony to Congress reported earlier today. Trump should have fired him on the very first day.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (p8g4F)

186 All I know is that Angela Merkel looks like a giant scrotum

Posted by: Derbererd at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (0+Z7c)

187 Should have been done 110 days ago.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (Ot7+c)

188 It was my understanding that it was basically a gentlemen's agreement that the FBI director would be a ten year term. It's not a statutory term.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (2DYky)

189
Right?

Democrats and fake news said obama should fire Comey.

But now that Trump fired Comey, it was wrong to do so, I'm guessing.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (cPF+x)

190 About damn time.

Comey was elbows deep in every issue and could never explain what his fucking reasoning was. He was flightier than a schoolgirl.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (oVJmc)

191 I'm with the Attorney General on this one... you can't let the director of the FBI get bought by criminal enterprises

Posted by: Al Capone at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (DpOmP)

192 Just that he's been fired on recommendation from DOJ.
Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2017 05:39 PM
~~~~~

That's good to hear. Hopefully it means there are at least a few patriots left at DOJ.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (HiDrR)

193 For those of you who have been wondering where Sessions has been, he's been heard from.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (SjImc)

194 I can see it now. Comey and Yates teaming up for Political run.

Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (hdpay)

195
Sheriff Joe Clarke or Joe Arpaio are available.

Just a thought. I love fireworks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (mbhDw)

196 I nominate Mrs Meanie to be the next FBI director. She knows my every move.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (woKq6)

197 Trump just fired Comey.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (PY9jH)

198 AG Sessions deserves an virtual fist bump.

Posted by: Tuna at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (NIrI2)

199 171 YOU NEXT, CLAPPER!
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IRS' Koshkinen should be gone yesterday too.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (riF5p)

200 NEXT that dick at the IRS

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (SjImc)

201 Now let's watch Democrats complain about Comey getting fired...

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class!

You know it's coming.

Posted by: Peter North at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (HTdUD)

202
We now have the Trump Rule.

The Trump Rule decrees that Trump Cannot Do Anything.

So firing Comey breaks the Trump Rule because Trump did it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (cPF+x)

203 Comey out does NOT break my heart.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me, Deploribus Unum at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (Ftuf+)

204 194 I can see it now. Comey and Yates teaming up for Political run.
Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (hdpay)

Kamala "Class Act" Harris and Cory Booker will be the team.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (mbhDw)

205 I knew Ms. Merkel looked familiar...

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (DpOmP)

206 A few facts somewhat support your analysis, ace:

1. Le Pen dropped her party affiliation shortly before election day.
2. Most Macron voters said they voted against Le Pen rather than for him.
3. Most voters said they wanted less "free trade" and immigration.
4. Le Pen's father even said before the vote there had been too much focus on leaving the Euro and the EU and not enough on immigration and trade.
5. The Socialist Party basically is dead.

Many analysts think Le Pen or someone like her will win in 2022. I agree with the "someone like her" part. There is a huge void to be filled. The French Republicans lack the credibility on immigration and trade to fill it. The same phenomenon exists throughout the West. Trump was elected here only because he was able to adjust a mainstream party nomination with what basically was an actual "third way."

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (JJrt2)

207 IRS' Koshkinen should be gone yesterday too.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 09, 2017 05:41 PM (riF5p)

AMEN

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (SjImc)

208 Trump should say he did it for interfering in the election by reopening the Hillary investigation in the campaigns final days. Rub the libs noses in it.

Posted by: Ripley at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (1BQGO)

209 nood comey

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (8rNrN)

210 Keep this in mind: Democrats DEMANDED Comey be fired last October.

Now let's watch Democrats complain about Comey getting fired...

Yeah, this should be fun.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (qJhUV)

211 Is Comey's firing now a job opportunity for my old home county sheriff David Clarke? I've been sensing he has a future in this administration...

Posted by: The Lonebadger at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (m4pt8)

212 From the left: Trump fired Comey because of the Russian collusion investigation!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2017 05:43 PM (kTF2Z)

213 Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight, but I fear the reason Trump hasn't fired Koskinen may have to do with Trump's taxes.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2017 05:43 PM (PY9jH)

214 And fire Jared, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 09, 2017 05:43 PM (oVJmc)

215 You know why Muslims never invented shoes?

Because they fuck up tying the laces.

Seriously, they are the most inept mofos on the planet (well, almost). If they were smart they wouldn't be keeping it real like they're doing now and actually exercising some discipline instead of ranting and raving like the lunatics they are.

Things are getting uncomfy now. When that scales up double or triple? You'll see a big backlash, likely ones involving improvised explosives.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 09, 2017 05:43 PM (4ErVI)

216
The picture on Drudge looks like Comey is singing "Danny Boy."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:43 PM (mbhDw)

217 That's good to hear. Hopefully it means there are at least a few patriots left at DOJ.
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LOL. Patriots? Not likely. Just pissed off Dims who are angry that Comey helped defeat their gal Hillary.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 09, 2017 05:43 PM (riF5p)

218 I'm detecting on CNN that Democrats wanted Comey fired too for fucking up Hillary's election bid...

Posted by: JoeF. at May 09, 2017 05:43 PM (7uYFy)

219 HOLY SHIT. I didn't read the previous comments. Never has a firing been more justified. Now prosecute that bastard.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 09, 2017 05:44 PM (JJrt2)

220 Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight, but I fear the reason Trump hasn't fired Koskinen may have to do with Trump's taxes.

I'd say if the IRS had dirt on Trump, Obama would have leaked it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 09, 2017 05:44 PM (oVJmc)

221 211 Is Comey's firing now a job opportunity for my old home county sheriff David Clarke? I've been sensing he has a future in this administration...
Posted by: The Lonebadger at May 09, 2017 05:42 PM (m4pt

See me at 195. Him or Joe Arpaio.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:44 PM (mbhDw)

222 comey really, really, sucked at playing both sides of the fence. he stood for nothing but saving his own ass. that never works. fuck him too. and phrance. phrance needs a good boning by ron jeremy, dude looks like a frenchman. all slimey and shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 09, 2017 05:45 PM (KP5rU)

223 Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight, but I fear the reason Trump hasn't fired Koskinen may have to do with Trump's taxes.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

I don't think it'd tinfoil. When the traffic cop approaches with ticket book in hand, it's probably not the best time to spit on his shoes.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 09, 2017 05:45 PM (HTdUD)

224 Liberals already squawking: Nixon! Nixon!

Even though they wanted him fired more than the conservatives.

Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2017 05:45 PM (hdpay)

225
See me at 195. Him or Joe Arpaio.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2017 05:44 PM (mbhDw

I saw that after I posted. And here I thought I had a real fresh scoop....

Posted by: The Lonebadger at May 09, 2017 05:46 PM (m4pt8)

226 >>>Trump should say he did it for interfering in the election by reopening the Hillary investigation in the campaigns final days. Rub the libs noses in it.

Genius!

Posted by: Max Power at May 09, 2017 05:46 PM (q177U)

227 Democrats are going to say it's because of the Russia probe, but I don't think they will try too hard - Comey committed the politically unforgivable sin of completely pissing off both sides.

Trump does need to state a good, plausible reason as to why it needed to be done now. Lying to Congress sounds like a good one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 09, 2017 05:46 PM (p8g4F)

228 213 Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight, but I fear the reason Trump hasn't fired Koskinen may have to do with Trump's taxes.

Just sayin'.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2017 05:43 PM (PY9jH)

Bingo.

Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2017 05:47 PM (hdpay)

229 If the DOJ recommended he be fired, it would be Sessions who would have to provide the rationale.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 09, 2017 05:48 PM (oVJmc)

230 Nood, of course.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 09, 2017 05:48 PM (oVJmc)

231
Democrats and fake news said obama should fire Comey.

But now that Trump fired Comey, it was wrong to do so, I'm guessing.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class!

Trump should say he fired Comey because of his treatment of Hillary.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 09, 2017 05:49 PM (IqV8l)

232 They refuse to be a full member of NATO

The independent Force de frappe was a useful uncertainty to worry the Soviets. We might not have nuked Germany to stop the Warsaw pact but Paris sure would.

Posted by: DaveA at May 09, 2017 05:52 PM (FhXTo)

233 Trump has fired Comey.

Is he allowed to do that?

Allows got nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Emperor SchadenBoner the Longest at May 09, 2017 05:57 PM (FhXTo)

234 Right and left just don't have meaning when you apply exactly those two words to something as multidimensional as politics. It's rather a black and white way of looking at something more complex than color. Describing X as black when it is intensely blue, or Y as white when it's faintly red, green, and blue is not a particularly accurate assessment. So, if you go with just nationalism, nationalist is considered right, and NOT nationalist (not necessarily internationalist, but any other) is left. For public aid, more is left and less is right. For liberty, for order, for religion, for collectivist vs individualists.. there are a lot of spectrums that are divided into left and right. Some of them in chaotic ways, like Bill Mahr and most of the rest of the left might argue over which is right or left for freedom of speech. For individuals, the left and right- people prioritize the parts of the platforms they personally find most important, decide which side they're on based on that, and people who don't agree with them on those issues are whatever they aren't. So even if you could be considered the right or left on 3 or 4 issues, you could easily consider someone the opposite, even if that largely disagrees with society.

Which is to say, Le Pen is on the right, but also on the left. From my perspective, as someone who values fiscal liberty, general liberty, and a hands off approach to business and labor above most other left/right concerns, she is decidedly on the left. If you look at her mainly thought he lens of non-eurozone and opposition to large scale immigration, she'd be on the right. But as these are only important and not priorities for me, so that isn't how I weight her. So I'm not to excited about her winning or losing, rather, I'd like for the tolerable platforms she supports to be adopted by someone who doesn't think the government should be declaring how many hours you can work, which genders exist, what sort of speech isn't allowed, how much a particular job should pay (or how little) etc, and generally doesn't think the state could control the means of production.

Quite a lot to demand from France, which is more than likely going to wipe itself out inside a hundred years in a flash of pure leftist insanity, I know. But we can always hope.

Posted by: DaveM at May 09, 2017 07:15 PM (FNtbC)

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