Is the GOP This Stupid, Or Just <i>Almost</i> This Stupid?

Is the GOP This Stupid, Or Just Almost This Stupid?

The Democrats are proposing a "deal" in the Gorsuch confirmation: For promising to not block his nomination, which they can't do anyway, they want Republicans to promise not to nuke the filibuster for any subsequent nomination -- you know, the one that's really important because it might just well tip the Court's balance for 20 or 30 years.

In short, the Democrats are offering to take a Big Something from the Republicans in exchange for Nothing.

Here's the thing: The Republicans actually want the Democrats to keep the filibuster, because they actually don't want a conservative court. Or to have the power to enact any of their legislative measures that they claim they want to enact, but in fact do not want to enact. They like pretending they want conservative reforms, while loving the fact that the Democrats can block those reforms.

Then they get to have their cake and eat it too -- they perpetually run on issues they don't want a resolution on, while being able to explain away their failure by saying "Because Democrats" or "Because Political Reality."

So some Republicans -- I'm thinking of Orin hosta and John "Build the Dang Fence" McCain and Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins and maybe Mitch McConnell -- might just seize this non-deal "deal" as a political fig-leaf for getting what they wanted anyway (keeping the Court "balanced") while citing their eternal excuse of "The Democrats made us do it, don't you Hobbits understand that?"

Posted by: Ace at 12:38 PM

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1 Well given the clusterfuck that is RyanCare, basically nothing these weasels do would shock me.

Posted by: Lauren at March 23, 2017 12:39 PM (+vGDO)

2 This is business as usual for GOPe

Posted by: Sphynx at March 23, 2017 12:39 PM (OZmbA)

3
The Potemkin Party!

If only we can have a concomitant Odessa Steps sequence with McConnell and Ryan in the baby carriage . . .

Bastards.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:40 PM (mbhDw)

4 And there will be no repercussions. Remember Booker's and other Republicans sell out on the Iran treaty?

Posted by: dIb at March 23, 2017 12:40 PM (VJOLZ)

5 Can Kentucky please primary Tommy the Turtle? Pleaaaase?

Posted by: Sphynx at March 23, 2017 12:41 PM (OZmbA)

6 Oh, they're that stupid. Bet on it.

GOPe=Democrat= Deep State

Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2017 12:41 PM (FkAXz)

7
As I have often stated and has always been apparent, the greatest enemy to PDT and to the movement to reverse course is the GOP.

That is, the GOP wing of the Democrat-Socialist Party.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:41 PM (mbhDw)

8 Well given the clusterfuck that is RyanCare, basically nothing these weasels do would shock me.
--

Supposedly there have been changes, and the Freedom Caucus is apparently on board.

So.. we'll see.

Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2017 12:42 PM (FkAXz)

9 The answer is always 'yes, they are this stupid.'

Except is it really stupidity? The GOPe, as Ace said, does NOT want a conservative court. They want power and influence.

This deal ensures them a lifetime plus of their power and influence never being curtailed.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 12:42 PM (72PAC)

10 No they are not stupid. They simply do not give a shit for the rank and file voter. There is a reason Trump is President.

We do not have a Party.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 23, 2017 12:42 PM (mpXpK)

11 This is the type of deal I would expect from the GOP if the GOP didn't control the House, Senate, and White House.

But they control all three.

Ace is right. They really don't believe what they peddle to their constituents.

Posted by: MacGruber at March 23, 2017 12:42 PM (C278+)

12 This is infuriating. If they take the bait, Ima lose my shit.

Posted by: Matticus at March 23, 2017 12:43 PM (p/5D/)

13 Republican carpetbaggers, looking for the easy win.

Posted by: Angus Blackheart at March 23, 2017 12:43 PM (IOuZT)

14 Fuck the dems.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 12:43 PM (eauMe)

15 I've shifted my opinion from "stupid" to "malign."

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 12:43 PM (0mRoj)

16 WWRD in this situation?

(what would Reid do)

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. Cause I guarantee you once the dems get back in power they are going to Nuke it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 23, 2017 12:43 PM (le7jz)

17 I know opinion of the GOPe is (deservedly) low, but I don't think they'll take the deal.

Maybe it's hope overriding common sense, but I just don't see it happening.

We'll find out if I'm right soon enough.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (ELUpj)

18 If Zell Miller had been a Republican, he would have been considered too far to the right for these GOPe weasels.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (PY9jH)

19 It's a Trap!!!!

Posted by: Admiral Akbar Stating The Obvious at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (ndGCC)

20 Mitch wouldn't agree to this. He did great on the Garland nomination.

It's the others Ace mentioned. Republican weasels.

Posted by: WisRich at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (hdpay)

21 5 Can Kentucky please primary Tommy the Turtle? Pleaaaase?
Posted by: Sphynx at March 23, 2017 12:41 PM (OZmbA)

=================

They did. Primary opponent is now their governor.

Maybe next time...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (ELUpj)

22

If you promise not use any more A-bombs, we promise not to invade California.

~Japanese Imperial Army

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (8XRCm)

23
And meanwhile, if/when Kennedy and Baader-Meinhoff are no longer there, they GOP will mumble and stumble if another Thomas or Scalia is nominated. They'll suggest a Sandra Day O'Connor instead.

I am getting angry again . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (mbhDw)

24 Because like scorpions gotta sting you, Republicans gotta betray you!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (gwPgz)

25 I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

Posted by: FredoPe at March 23, 2017 12:45 PM (87y4e)

26 23
And meanwhile, if/when Kennedy and Baader-Meinhoff are no longer there, they GOP will mumble and stumble if another Thomas or Scalia is nominated. They'll suggest a Sandra Day O'Connor instead.

I am getting angry again . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (mbhDw)

Again? Just do what I do and stay angry. More efficient that way. All that start-and-stop anger kills your mileage.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 12:45 PM (0mRoj)

27 Hey guys the broke bolt so when I nod my head, you hit it!!

Posted by: GOP at March 23, 2017 12:45 PM (WLK0w)

28 Yes.

Posted by: josephistan at March 23, 2017 12:45 PM (7HtZB)

29 20 Mitch wouldn't agree to this. He did great on the Garland nomination.

It's the others Ace mentioned. Republican weasels.
Posted by: WisRich at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (hdpay)

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If Mitch doesn't want it to happen, he'll prevent it.

He can keep a bare minimum of the quislings from making an ass of the entire caucus.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 12:45 PM (ELUpj)

30 "No way they're that stupid....."

---the Gang of Eight

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (tcamx)

31 I'd take the deal, then drill those old Democrats in the ass.

Posted by: Curly Bill Brody at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (UUSGT)

32 22

If you promise not use any more A-bombs, we promise not to invade California.

~Japanese Imperial Army
Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (8XRCm)

"HORRYWOOOD!!!!"

That's Hollis P. Wood.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (mbhDw)

33 23
And meanwhile, if/when Kennedy and Baader-Meinhoff are no longer there, they GOP will mumble and stumble if another Thomas or Scalia is nominated. They'll suggest a Sandra Day O'Connor instead.

I am getting angry again . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (mbhDw)

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And then Trump will nominate Pryor, and say that the next guy will be even more conservative if they don't let Pryor through.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (ELUpj)

34 Is the GOP This Stupid, Or Just Almost This Stupid?

This is a trick question, isn't it?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (oVJmc)

35
If you stop at the City Limits of Berlin, I PROMISE not to invade Stalingrad again.

~LITERALLY Hitler

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (8XRCm)

36
Republicans care about only two things, in this order:

1) Doing their lobbyists' bidding.
2) Reelection.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (iNv61)

37
I better get back to my work because what's left of my hairs is starting to hurt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (mbhDw)

38 Play to win or go home.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (B+qrE)

39 31 I'd take the deal, then drill those old Democrats in the ass.
Posted by: Curly Bill Brody at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (UUSGT)

Exactly. Burn those fuckers on a deal for a change.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (0mRoj)

40 I promise not to do that thing in your mouth if you promise not to stop.

Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (Bdeb0)

41 It's time for McCain to move to an assisted living facility, and Miss Lindsey to join Barry on the beach in Tahiti (picture those two rolling around in the surf together....you're welcome).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (PY9jH)

42 Here's my deal you twats, when RBG crooks I'll nominate a small "l" libertarian. You'll take it and you'll like it.

Posted by: President Trump at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (FqgrG)

43 I'll worry about it when it happens.

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (r/0kC)

44
Republicans govern/act for their lobbys.

Republicans speak and make gestures for us.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (iNv61)

45 "So some Republicans...might seize upon this non-deal deal"

In other words this is an If scenario as of this writing. I just spent an hour at the dealership service lounge (first oil change free) and all I heard on Fox was political chatterboxes saying "if - if - if - if" about everything.

An Observation: We can play the "If" game all day and all we will do is give vent to our fears and desires.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (hLRSq)

46 "Here's the thing: The Republicans actually want the Democrats to keep the filibuster, because they actually don't want a conservative court."

Disagree. One thing Senate Rs can agree on is conservative SCOTUS picks.

If there's any truth to a deal with a few Senate Rs it's because Schumer is looking for a way out of his publicly calling for a filibuster to appease his loony left, which he knows is bad long-term for the Ds.

"I'll blow you, but first you must blow me." I learned in juvie that it's non-binding. After 2018 there will be more Senate Rs so any deal struck with McCain et al won't hold.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (SIY7D)

47 It's not like the Dems haven't gone back on every deal they ever made. If the rules don't apply equally, they don't apply at all.

Posted by: Chupacabra at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (UUSGT)

48 We didn't riot, we voted, donated, volunteered and gave them the house, the senate and the Presidency, because that's what we're supposed to do to get the policies we want right? Now what?

Posted by: spypeach at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (u/r83)

49 38 Play to win or go home.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (B+qrE)

They are playing to win - against all of us. The Democrats are on their side.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (mbhDw)

50 There are no words to describe my feelings towards every elected Democrat, every Democrat voter and 95% of the GOP that wouldn't have me banned and then reinstated so that Ace could ban me again.

So I shall merely ask, Major General Robert Ross, where are you when we need you?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (X6fMO)

51 Except is it really stupidity? The GOPe, as Ace said, does NOT want a conservative court. They want power and influence.

This deal ensures them a lifetime plus of their power and influence never being curtailed.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 12:42 PM (72PAC)
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I listened to Gorsuch hearing and although very good, I have some lingering doubts that he's in the "Scalia mold". They maybe trying to pull a fast one us and he'll turn out to be another swing vote.

Posted by: WisRich at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (hdpay)

52 41 I don't think Lindsey is Barry's type.They are both receivers.

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (r/0kC)

53 41 It's time for McCain to move to an assisted living facility, and Miss Lindsey to join Barry on the beach in Tahiti (picture those two rolling around in the surf together....you're welcome).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (PY9jH)

Ebony and ivory!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (0mRoj)

54 Hmm.

I want to say, no, they would not be that stupid. Because, who would be that stupid?

I mean, if you say no and the Dems filibuster they look terrible because they have not sufficiently made Gorsuch out to be a Nazi monster. And they will lose the filibuster over the appointment they don't really care about, and when Ruth Buzzi kicks the bucket, they got no grounds to oppose.

Or, they say okay, don't filibuster, and look like chickenshits for walking away from their threats. And they lose the filibuster on Buzzi anyway.

I really, truly want to say, no, they are not that stupid. I feel like if they think there is any serious reason to think this one over, they should go talk to the President and see what kind of deal he thinks it is.

But I also feel like they will fuck this football like a monkey that hasn't had any football love in a good long time.

Posted by: blaster at March 23, 2017 12:49 PM (tewYv)

55 I think the deal is dead...

Per Drudge:

Schumer announces will filibuster Gorsuch

he links to Wash Times

Posted by: rogue at March 23, 2017 12:49 PM (QFnhZ)

56 In retail politics, this is what we refer to as a loss leader. Behold the genius of the Republican marketing MACHINE!!!

Posted by: dananjcon at March 23, 2017 12:49 PM (WLK0w)

57 41 It's time for McCain to move to an assisted living facility, and Miss Lindsey to join Barry on the beach in Tahiti (picture those two rolling around in the surf together....you're welcome).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (PY9jH)

==================

Graham isn't going to be out of the Senate until he dies.

I don't think that even a cleared path towards governor of SC would entice him out of the upper chamber.

I just wish more of my fellow South Carolinians would reject him as I have.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 12:49 PM (ELUpj)

58 As I suggested last night, make ME the new supreme court justice, and make Neil Gorsuch the personal assistant to Ivanka Trump.

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at March 23, 2017 12:49 PM (vRcUp)

59
If you just let us win..... we'll stop embarrassing you now in the Super Bowl.

~Atlanta Falcons

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 12:49 PM (8XRCm)

60 And of course...

Keepin me word to my Senate opponents is sacred...

While keepin me word to me Constituents... more like guidelines...

Posted by: Senator Barboza, from the Great State of Tortuga at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (NgKpN)

61 2 options:
1) say "sure!" then nuke the filibuster anyway if need be (risky, because, well, as ace says -- fig leaf)
2) nip this shit in the bud and get it off the table right now by doing a 51-vote rule change to nuke the filibuster effective immediately.

Bonus points it it's a "temporary" nuking that expires right before next election. Then if D's take the Senate, let them vote to renew the nuke and look like the assholes they are, since we all know they would have spent the last 2 years screaming about how horrible and Nazilike it is to not have a filibuster in the Senate.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (wmaTe)

62 I think the deal is dead...

Per Drudge:

Schumer announces will filibuster Gorsuch

he links to Wash Times

Good. Nuke it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (oVJmc)

63 32
And then Trump will nominate Pryor, and say that the next guy will be even more conservative if they don't let Pryor through.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (ELUpj)

It's not necessarily the nominations. It's the process and the fucking ATTITUDE that our alleged party displays.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (mbhDw)

64 NYT and WaPo with five page spreads defending the sanctity of the filibuster in 3...2...1....

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (B+qrE)

65 We didn't riot, we voted, donated, volunteered and gave them the house, the senate and the Presidency, because that's what we're supposed to do to get the policies we want right? Now what?

Posted by: spypeach at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (u/r83)

1) Pitchforks

2) Rope

3) Lampposts

Posted by: Country Boy at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (Jcg9Q)

66 They aren't stupid.

They think we are.
They have the courage and conviction of amoebas.

Is it too early in the day and/or week to say? Let it burn.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (voOPb)

67 Gor, Gore. Po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to.

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (vRcUp)

68 They're telegraphing this for a reason, although they probably don't mean to.

Anyway, part of me looks forward to watching the (D)s laugh when they nuke it as soon as they get the opportunity again.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (/f1mm)

69 "20 Mitch wouldn't agree to this. He did great on the Garland nomination.

It's the others Ace mentioned. Republican weasels."

Agreed. McConnell is not the problem here.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (OD2ni)

70 55 I think the deal is dead...

Per Drudge:

Schumer announces will filibuster Gorsuch

he links to Wash Times
Posted by: rogue at March 23, 2017 12:49 PM (QFnhZ)

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I think that might be wrong. I've only seen Schumer saying that he'll vote against Gorsuch (which is just not a surprise), not that he's going to whip his caucus to vote against him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (ELUpj)

71 Okay.

Goodbye.

For now.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:51 PM (mbhDw)

72 I expect McConnell to say, "Well yes, I accepted the no future filibuster deal, BUT I could have have pulled the Gorsuch nomination based on the threat of a filibuster, so you should be thanking me!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2017 12:51 PM (gwPgz)

73

We'll let you have this one if you let us have the next one! Now that that's settled let proceed with sucking each others' dicks!

Posted by: Congress, lifetime employment at March 23, 2017 12:51 PM (OZmbA)

74 Here's the deal: you guys pay me $1 million, and I promise I won't go hang out on DU.

Deal?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2017 12:51 PM (SRKgf)

75 I'm loving it. Trump will likely get another SCOTUS pick (or two or three) as President. Given what he's being put through by lower federal courts, with or without a filibuster speed bump, wanna bet that his next pick will be to the right of Clarence Thomas?

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 12:51 PM (SIY7D)

76
Democrats: Hey Republicans, can you give us two tens for a five?

Republicans: Sure!!!!

Democrats: Can we get the five back too?

Republicans: Sure!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (493sH)

77 >>>>
I'll worry about it when it happens.
.
.
.Me too. For starters the story is from politico and uses "unnamed sources" once again.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (le7jz)

78 41 It's time for McCain to move to an assisted living facility, and Miss Lindsey to join Barry on the beach in Tahiti (picture those two rolling around in the surf together....you're welcome).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (PY9jH)

Underneath that southern charm lies one sick lady

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (voOPb)

79 You mean if Jack helps me off my horse, I have to help Jack off his horse?

Posted by: Sounds Good To Lindsey Graham at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (ndGCC)

80 Graham isn't going to be out of the Senate until he dies.
---------------------------------

Or until he learns to self-fellate.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (vg8iE)

81 There's nothing like controlling all three federal branches, a record number of legislatures and 65% of the governors' mansions....and acting like an endangered species.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (B+qrE)

82 I listened to Gorsuch hearing and although very good, I have some lingering doubts that he's in the "Scalia mold". They maybe trying to pull a fast one us and he'll turn out to be another swing vote.
Posted by: WisRich at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (hdpay)

It's so hard to know. I've read (ahem, skimmed) many of his decisions on LexisNexis, but er... circuit judges are so locked to precedent that it's hard to know how they'd act on the supreme court.

Gut says he's good, but brain says "THEY ALWAYS TRICK US WITH SHIT LIKE THIS! REMEMBER SOUTER, KENNEDY, ROBERTS" so... I don't know.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (wmaTe)

83 74 Here's the deal: you guys pay me $1 million, and I promise I won't go hang out on DU.

Deal?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2017 12:51 PM (SRKgf)

Sure. Let's start a GoFuckYourself!

/I keed

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 12:53 PM (0mRoj)

84 Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (493sH

Coffee on the paperwork.
Thanks a lot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 23, 2017 12:53 PM (voOPb)

85
Democrats = Lucy with a football

Republicans = Charlie Brown

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 12:53 PM (493sH)

86 Deal

If you like your supreme court pick you can keep your supreme court pick just like we got to keep our doctor.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 23, 2017 12:53 PM (qXFhJ)

87 But I also feel like they will fuck this football like a monkey that hasn't had any football love in a good long time.

Those monkeys are fucking perverted!

Posted by: Couchfucker at March 23, 2017 12:53 PM (87y4e)

88 I think that might be wrong. I've only seen Schumer saying that he'll vote against Gorsuch (which is just not a surprise), not that he's going to whip his caucus to vote against him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (ELUpj)

I think your right. I think he said that he "encouraged" other Senators to vote against.

Posted by: WisRich at March 23, 2017 12:54 PM (hdpay)

89 wanna bet that his next pick will be to the right of Clarence Thomas?
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 12:51 PM (SIY7D)

------

*clasps hands*

MuHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA my evil plan is coming together.

Posted by: Supreme Court Justice Ted Cruz at March 23, 2017 12:54 PM (8XRCm)

90 I'd take the deal, then crawfish and drill that 'ol Chuck Schumer in the ass.

Posted by: Curly Bill Brocius at March 23, 2017 12:54 PM (AIaBD)

91 Since 2009, the Dems, through the Obama-Pelosi-Reid regime have:

Utterly politicized the Department of Justice
Politicized the EPA
Politicized the State Department
Weaponized the politicized IRS
PWed the Defense Department
Utterly politicized the Department of Education
and filled the federal courts with buffoons and giggling clowns.

With a 4-4 USSC ideological tied vote, the circuit courts, most notably the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, reign supreme. While Gorsuch awaits his Senate vote, the liberal courts run amok.

The Constitution is under direct assault and the Dems want to bargain with McConnell for, what? More time? More social destruction?

Hell no. If Schumer and his people invoke a filibuster - nuke it.

Posted by: mrp at March 23, 2017 12:54 PM (Pqytn)

92 I am getting angry again . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (mbhDw)

Again? Just do what I do and stay angry. More efficient that way. All that start-and-stop anger kills your mileage.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 12:45 PM (0mRoj)

Listen to your Unca Insomniac, J.J; he knows whereof he speaks.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 23, 2017 12:55 PM (X6fMO)

93 Sigh

Yes I think the RINOs are that stupid.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 12:55 PM (KlI/a)

94 The Democrats are proposing a "deal" in the Gorsuch confirmation: For promising to not block his nomination, which they can't do anyway, they want Republicans to promise not to nuke the filibuster for any subsequent nomination -- you know, the one that's really important because it might just well tip the Court's balance for 20 or 30 years.

Sounds like the same sort of deal the GOP made with the Dems that allowed Barky's illegal, self-declared (for the Senate) labor board recess appointment (and other shitstains) to fly through later confirmation - even as the courts eventually came down on the side that Barky had totally violated the Constitution - in exchange for ... nothing.

Senate GOP turds love giving dems stuff for nothing. It makes tingles run up their legs.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 23, 2017 12:55 PM (zc3Db)

95 The Dems understand something that the old GOP types don't get: when you must compromise to get something you want, make sure you get what you want first.
Think of what happened to H W Bush after he broke his 'no new taxes' pledge: what did he get in return? Screwed.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 23, 2017 12:55 PM (b7fwp)

96 85
Democrats = Lucy with a football

Republicans = Charlie Brown
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 12:53 PM (493sH)

Except they're deliberately taking the dive like a European soccer player.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 12:55 PM (0mRoj)

97 Chuck will filibuster Gorsuch. Now its time for the nuclear option.Can McConnell do it ?

Posted by: jmore at March 23, 2017 12:55 PM (ng/dM)

98 Willowed from previous thread:

Watching some of the Gorsuch hearings, the rather ridonkulous thought kept going through my head:

The
SupCt should just have boilerplate 'disclaimer' language at the end of
every opinion along the lines of 'we rule on the written law, if you
don't like it, change the law'.

Too hard?

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 23, 2017 12:56 PM (MIKMs)

99 Cage match!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2017 12:56 PM (IqV8l)

100
MMmmmmmm..... hot synonym rolls. Just like Grammar used to make.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 12:56 PM (8XRCm)

101 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 23, 2017 12:55 PM (X6fMO)

LMAO over here!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 12:56 PM (0mRoj)

102 Can McConnell do it ?

"Will" is the word you are looking for.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 23, 2017 12:56 PM (B+qrE)

103 Bikini Girl: Hi, guys. We're going on a national bikini tour, and we're looking for two oil boys who can grease us up before each competition.

The GOPe: You are in luck! There's a town about three miles that way. I'm sure you'll find a couple guys there.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 23, 2017 12:56 PM (GgzGa)

104 Yep, expect McCain to do this. Its the same bullshit he joined with when Bush was president to save the nuclear option. "We won't kill the filibuster and you'll allow a couple judges through."

Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2017 12:56 PM (z/Ubi)

105 Legal insurrection has an article on this.Quoting Trumps advisor on supreme court nominees who says this is absolutely not going to happen. People should save their out rage for things that actually might happen.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2017 12:56 PM (9z842)

106 Will it be a Mister Smith filibuster or a Doctor Smith filibuster?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2017 12:57 PM (IqV8l)

107 Is the GOP This Stupid

Yes.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 23, 2017 12:57 PM (s/EUv)

108 not stupid, secure in their corruption.

not a single one of them has been held personally accountable for their treason

Posted by: Grad School Fool at March 23, 2017 12:57 PM (swEzU)

109 My comment from the previous thread is going to perform an act of love:

415 255 Front page of the The Daily Mail; there is a deal working to approve Gorsuch by the dems if 3 GOP members will promise to vote against the Nuclear option for the next justice

Any traitorous GOPe quislings who cut off their dicks willingly and uneccessarily need to be primaried and replaced.

Just invoke the nuke option now and get it over with. Reach across the aisle and the Dems will break your arms, Stupid Party.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 23, 2017 12:19 PM (s/EUv)

To the GOP staffers who are reading this I want to say that I will sit home in November of '18 if the Turtle doesn't squash that deal HARD.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (RD7QR)

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 12:57 PM (RD7QR)

110 You mean if Jack helps me off my horse, I have to help Jack off his horse?

You sir, are a great American!

Posted by: Sean Hannity at March 23, 2017 12:57 PM (87y4e)

111 31 I'd take the deal, then drill those old Democrats in the ass.
Posted by: Curly Bill Brody at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (UUSGT)

Exactly. Burn those fuckers on a deal for a change.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (0mRoj)

I like it. Channel Otter: "you fucked up - you trusted us!"

Realistically, the Democrat Party probably has no intention of abiding by this or any other deal anyway, any more than they did in abiding by the wetback deal during Reagan Administration, or supporting the South Vietnamese government after we pulled out.

When any deal becomes inconvenient, they claim that they entered into it in good faith (!), but that THIS ONE PARTICULAR SITUATION is so egregious that fierce moral urgency requires them to double cross us. Right.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2017 12:57 PM (SRKgf)

112 Nobody is that stupid. Not even the Repulbican leadership.

Every single Republican will vote yes. It would be suicidal for Bennet from Colorado to vote no. You also have 10 more Democrats from mostly Midwest or Western states where Trump won a majority of voters up in 2018. SCOTUS was either the #1 or #2 issue in those states.

I don't even see how Chuckie the bullshit artist hold that together unless those Dems don't want to stay in Congress.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2017 12:58 PM (OFxPz)

113
ERIC CANTOR MOTHERFUCKER... DO YOU SPEAK IT???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 12:58 PM (8XRCm)

114 109 To the GOP staffers who are reading this I want to say that I will sit home in November of '18 if the Turtle doesn't squash that deal HARD.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 12:46 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 12:57 PM (RD7QR)

===============

Maybe you should work for the Democrats in the district.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 12:58 PM (ELUpj)

115 WaPo an hour ago:
"Schumer: Democrats will filibuster Gorsuch nomination"

"On Thursday, Schumer warned that they should focus instead on changing Trump's nominee. "If this nominee cannot earn 60 votes -- a bar met by each of President Obama's nominees, and George Bush's last two nominees the answer isn't to change the rules. It's to change the nominee."

As predicted. Schumer has to appease his loony left.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 12:58 PM (SIY7D)

116 .Me too. For starters the story is from politico and uses "unnamed sources" once again.

PowerLine ran something similar yesterday. Either JJ or Vic linked it.

And there's no doubt, just by listening here, that the GOPe is desperate to keep the cover of the fillibuster.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 12:59 PM (/BTP8)

117
I listened to Gorsuch hearing and although very good, I have some lingering doubts that he's in the "Scalia mold". They maybe trying to pull a fast one us and he'll turn out to be another swing vote.
Posted by: WisRich at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (hdpay)

-----------

That's my impression as well.

Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2017 12:59 PM (Fmupd)

118 I think that might be wrong. I've only seen Schumer
saying that he'll vote against Gorsuch (which is just not a surprise),
not that he's going to whip his caucus to vote against him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 12:50 PM (ELUpj)
ABC has it too, including video

Posted by: rogue at March 23, 2017 12:59 PM (7pOq5)

119
Nobody is that stupid. Not even the Repulbican leadership.

Never say never. Nobody says nobody.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2017 12:59 PM (IqV8l)

120 Between this and Rynocare, we could be looking at a bloodbath for the GOPe in 2018. Which would probably suit them fine. They seem to like having all the perks of power with none of the responsibility.

Posted by: rickl at March 23, 2017 12:59 PM (zoehZ)

121 Stupidity?

No.

Enemy action?

Yes.

Posted by: Ash and Cordite Cheerios at March 23, 2017 01:00 PM (sUe4l)

122 I think it is not ignorance but malice and greed.

we voted Trump because of the republicans choosing to defecate on us intead of honoring their primary speech, instead they lie to retain power.

this is WHY they got Trump!

Posted by: willow at March 23, 2017 01:00 PM (R7cwD)

123 Gut says he's good, but brain says "THEY ALWAYS TRICK US WITH SHIT LIKE THIS! REMEMBER SOUTER, KENNEDY, ROBERTS" so... I don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (wmaTe)

I personally think the Supreme Court of this land should NOT be made up of Judges or Lawyers...

At least half should not have been in the Legal Profession...

Because they are the ultimate arbiters of the Law... which is often pretty dang silly when looked at through the lens of non legal experience...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 23, 2017 01:00 PM (NgKpN)

124 Tell them what they want to hear to shut them up and do what ever is necessary to promote your ideology. You know, like dems do.

Posted by: DanMan at March 23, 2017 01:01 PM (XTiHL)

125 115 WaPo an hour ago:
"Schumer: Democrats will filibuster Gorsuch nomination"

"On Thursday, Schumer warned that they should focus instead on changing Trump's nominee. "If this nominee cannot earn 60 votes -- a bar met by each of President Obama's nominees, and George Bush's last two nominees the answer isn't to change the rules. It's to change the nominee."

As predicted. Schumer has to appease his loony left.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 12:58 PM (SIY7D)

If the GOP had any sense, that would be an end to it, and there would be a decision to use the nuke option NOW.

But the GOPee.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at March 23, 2017 01:01 PM (ujg0T)

126 I think the Turtle will use the Nuclear option...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:01 PM (O2RFr)

127 The Republican Party is not a legitimate political party.

It's composed of free agents, "mavericks" and other assorted fucktards.

It does not operate as a unit to advance an agenda or unified goal.

They are useless cunts.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 23, 2017 01:01 PM (ROOrr)

128 It's not gonna happen.

This is food for Pavlov's dogs, who froth at the mere mention on any Republican deal.

There is. Itching to deal here. Democrats don't have any leverage. None.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2017 01:01 PM (OFxPz)

129
3 GOP Members (selling their votes to the democrats)

McCain
Susan Collins
Graham?

Posted by: Angus Blackheart at March 23, 2017 01:01 PM (IOuZT)

130 Uniparty gotta uniparty, yo.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2017 01:02 PM (TOk1P)

131 Bikini Girl: Hi, guys. We're going on a national
bikini tour, and we're looking for two oil boys who can grease us up
before each competition.

The GOPe: You are in luck! There's a town about three miles that way. I'm sure you'll find a couple guys there.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 23, 2017 12:56 PM (GgzGa)

Perfect.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 01:02 PM (PY9jH)

132 Nazis!!11!!

Posted by: Zeke Cohen at March 23, 2017 01:02 PM (vtcmf)

133 Nobody is that stupid. Not even the Repulbican leadership.

Challenge accepted!

Posted by: FredoPe at March 23, 2017 01:02 PM (87y4e)

134 A repost from last night:

1945: GOP Negotiators Face Off With Their Japanese Counterparts

After a brief moment of silence for McCain who crashed his plane on the way to the conference, the GOP negotiators huddle and discuss their options in hushed tones.

E. Munster: Let's face it, the Japs have created the reality on the ground and we just can't roll back all of their gains.

McConeHead: Yeah, Iwo Jima and Okinawa are going to be tough. And then the Home Islands, geesh. This might take months and I really want don't want to work anymore 4 hour days.

GOP Member with Brain (soon to be primaried): We told people we would achieve unconditional surrender.

E. Munster: Hush you imbecile. We can't achieve that. I say we call it a stalemate. They keep what they have including their mainland territory. Sure tens of thousands are dying, but hey they're peons.

McConeHead: I have a better idea, we'll start by calling it quits and giving back the Philippines.

E. Munster: Even better is we give them Guadalcanal as well as a token of good will.

GOP Brain Member: Why are we negotiating with ourselves?

McConeHead: You fool, what do you know about winning? Next you'll be saying we could use the nuclear option.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 23, 2017 01:02 PM (J70i0)

135 All I'd like to say is Ginsburg better die quickly because in Trump's last year the left won't let him fill a spot on the bench. There is no guarantee that in 2 years we will continue to have the upper hand in the senate or house. This could all go south quickly. I'd nuke the 61 and pray.

Posted by: Jaimo at March 23, 2017 01:02 PM (9U1OG)

136

Just noticed a pic of the London terrorist bitch on a stretcher. He was missing a shoe. Do you know who else lost a shoe on the street?

Hmmmmm....

Posted by: Kudzu King at March 23, 2017 01:02 PM (HSmrB)

137 vic's 'we have no party' is accurate this decade perhaps longer.

Posted by: willow at March 23, 2017 01:02 PM (R7cwD)

138 There is. Itching to deal here. Democrats don't have any leverage. None.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2017 01:01 PM (OFxPz)

-------

Whish ish why thish deal will be eashy to do.

Posted by: Senator McShitstain at March 23, 2017 01:02 PM (8XRCm)

139 If the GOP had any sense, that would be an end to it, and there would be a decision to use the nuke option NOW.

But the GOPee....

They wasted time and money on these interrogations, I mean hearings... Nuke it now!

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:03 PM (O2RFr)

140 Chucky will filibuster.

Posted by: Jaimo at March 23, 2017 01:04 PM (9U1OG)

141

This is what the Republican idiots get (and We get) for voting for sotomayormccheese and kagan.

This is how Democrats pay back the Republicans for all their votes, for all their compliance, for all their debt ceiling increases, and for all their budget extensions.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 23, 2017 01:04 PM (iNv61)

142 Term limits. One of the most under-discussed, yet most important issues that should be pursued.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 23, 2017 01:04 PM (7ZVPa)

143
changing my sock NOW before I forget ....again.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:04 PM (8XRCm)

144 It's not gonna happen.

This is food for Pavlov's dogs, who froth at the mere mention on any Republican deal.

There is. Itching to deal here. Democrats don't have any leverage. None.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2017 01:01 PM (OFxPz)

Every time I hear/see the phrase "Pavlov's dog" I think of the Aimee Mann song, "Pavlov's Dog."

It's like the ringing of a bell for me. I can't not hear the song playing in my head.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2017 01:04 PM (TOk1P)

145 All I'd like to say is Ginsburg better die quickly
because in Trump's last year the left won't let him fill a spot on the
bench. There is no guarantee that in 2 years we will continue to have
the upper hand in the senate or house. This could all go south quickly.
I'd nuke the 61 and pray.

Posted by: Jaimo at March 23, 2017 01:02 PM (9U1OG)

I hear there's a nice, quiet hunting lodge out west where she could enjoy some peace and quiet. Nice and remote. Each room comes with a My Pillow(TM).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 01:04 PM (PY9jH)

146 "62 I think the deal is dead...

Per Drudge:

Schumer announces will filibuster Gorsuch

he links to Wash Times

Good. Nuke it."

I'm sure the Maine twins will "heroically" vote no "to preserve the spirit of the Senate" or some bullshit.

Posted by: Lauren at March 23, 2017 01:04 PM (+vGDO)

147 Hitler!!11!!

Posted by: Zeke Cohen at March 23, 2017 01:04 PM (vtcmf)

148 This is how Democrats pay back the Republicans for all their votes, for all their compliance, for all their debt ceiling increases, and for all their budget extensions.

Two very enthusiastic thumbs up...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:04 PM (O2RFr)

149 Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at March 23, 2017 01:05 PM (BDZWU)

150 41 It's time for McCain to move to an assisted living facility, and Miss Lindsey to join Barry on the beach in Tahiti (picture those two rolling around in the surf together....you're welcome).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 12:47 PM (PY9jH)

Ferchrissakes Jane, what did we do to deserve that?

(Searches for picks of scantily clad Gal Godot.)

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:05 PM (RD7QR)

151 "there would be a decision to use the nuke option NOW."

Better to let it play out. Schumer and the Ds will look silly and ineffectual. Which is a set-up if they try to filibuster on other things.

Why did I conclude Schumer would lead a filibuster, even though it's a bad move for Ds. Because to not filibuster would weaken's position, and open him to challenges. Chuckie craves power more than anything else.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:05 PM (SIY7D)

152 55 I think the deal is dead...

Per Drudge:

Schumer announces will filibuster Gorsuch

he links to Wash Times
Posted by: rogue at March 23, 2017 12:49 PM (QFnhZ)

Then it's up to the Turtle to show us some testicular fortitude.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:05 PM (RD7QR)

153 Then they get to have their cake and eat it too -- they perpetually run on issues they don't want a resolution on, while being able to explain away their failure by saying "Because Democrats" or "Because Political Reality."

It can't be as 3d chessy as "running on issues they don't want a resolution on". If they could reverse the Obama shit sandwich, people would re-elect them for that. They just:
a) don't care if the country goes to shit, as long as they live the rest of their shitty lives in comfort.
b) buy into liberal bullshit that we have generational guilt that NO other culture has, so we must be annihilated by attrition.
c) blackmail. I think Roberts must have been threatened somehow.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 23, 2017 01:05 PM (vRcUp)

154 Gut says he's good, but brain says "THEY ALWAYS TRICK US WITH SHIT LIKE THIS! REMEMBER SOUTER, KENNEDY, ROBERTS" so... I don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (wmaTe)

The "Earl Warren effect."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2017 01:05 PM (SRKgf)

155 When something good looks like it is going to happen we worn each other to not" start sucking each others dicks" until it is a done deal.So why go full outrage before the shit even happens?Wait and see.

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 01:06 PM (r/0kC)

156 Is the GOP This Stupid, Or Just Almost This Stupid?

Just the fact that you have to ask that question answers it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 23, 2017 01:06 PM (i0ykY)

157 Then it's up to the Turtle to show us some testicular fortitude.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:05 PM (RD7QR)

*chokes on iced tea*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 01:07 PM (PY9jH)

158 Gut says he's good, but brain says "THEY ALWAYS TRICK US WITH SHIT LIKE THIS! REMEMBER SOUTER, KENNEDY, ROBERTS" so... I don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (wmaTe)

--------

Frome henceforth forward.... one of the conservative Senators needs to ask.... "Just out of curiosity..... how many Georgetown cocktail parties do you go to each year??"

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:07 PM (8XRCm)

159 The GOP is:

[ ] Almost this stupid
[X] This stupid

Answering your question.

Posted by: User name cannot be blank at March 23, 2017 01:07 PM (cZPUP)

160 155 When something good looks like it is going to happen we worn each other to not" start sucking each others dicks" until it is a done deal.So why go full outrage before the shit even happens?Wait and see.
Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 01:06 PM (r/0kC)

A good point to remember. Rather than wearing ourselves out now, save righteous hatred for when it really goes down. Right now, it is all still hearsay.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at March 23, 2017 01:07 PM (ujg0T)

161 c) blackmail. I think Roberts must have been threatened somehow.

Irish adoptions.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:08 PM (eauMe)

162 Do what the Democrats would do. Make the deal, get what you want, then renege. See- the deal Reagan made with Democrats re immigration and a wall.

Posted by: Passin' Thru Like a Kidney Stone at March 23, 2017 01:08 PM (g6yUI)

163 c) blackmail. I think Roberts must have been threatened somehow.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 23, 2017 01:05 PM (vRcUp)

Look up "John Roberts adoption" sometime ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 01:08 PM (/BTP8)

164
Democrats = Lucy with a football
Republicans = Charlie Brown
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 12:53 PM (493sH)

Democrats = Acme Corporation

Republicans = Wile E. Coyote

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 23, 2017 01:08 PM (lKyWE)

165
ChadPergram
23/03/17 13:15
#BREAKING Freedom Caucus source after WH mtg on health care pkg: no deal yet

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 23, 2017 01:08 PM (y3aQB)

166 A good point to remember. Rather than wearing ourselves out now, save righteous hatred for when it really goes down. Right now, it is all still hearsay.

But it's so fun to run around with ones hair on fire...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:08 PM (O2RFr)

167 80
Graham isn't going to be out of the Senate until he dies.

Or until he learns to self-fellate. Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 23, 2017 12:52 PM (vg8iE)

Semen is for closers.

Posted by: General Zod at March 23, 2017 01:08 PM (Bdeb0)

168 Kristallnacht!!11!!

Posted by: Zeke Cohen at March 23, 2017 01:09 PM (vtcmf)

169 Damn it rick.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 01:09 PM (/BTP8)

170 McConnell is the one who made the deal with Reid in Dec 2009 to go home for Christmas for the debt ceiling increase be on a certain day (SoU address?). That also allowed the ACA to pass thru.

Posted by: MAGA at March 23, 2017 01:09 PM (A4HOq)

171 Since we apparently can't have free market-based healthcare, sooner or later we're going to have Government-rationed single-payer healthcare. Until then we're stuck with trainwreck healthcare where costs are out of control and you have to have the procedure before they can tell you how much the procedure costs and how much of that you have to pay.

Posted by: Self-driving car>>Safe space>>Adult coloring books at March 23, 2017 01:09 PM (qYCgM)

172 164
Democrats = Lucy with a football
Republicans = Charlie Brown
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 12:53 PM (493sH)

Democrats = Acme Corporation

Republicans = Wile E. Coyote
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic

Democrats = Lorena Bobbitt

Republicans = John Bobbitt's dick

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 23, 2017 01:09 PM (FZYNt)

173 Damn it rick.
Posted by: ScoggDog

:-)

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:09 PM (eauMe)

174 Whew. Being a commie is exhausting.

Posted by: Zeke Cohen at March 23, 2017 01:10 PM (vtcmf)

175 "I'm sure the Maine twins will "heroically" vote no "to preserve the spirit of the Senate"

Echoing torquewrench, they'll be told that Bath Iron Works won't get a single defense contract during a Trump administration.

It's easy to stick with your party on SCOTUS picks.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:10 PM (SIY7D)

176 Souter was a blank slate with no paper trail picked after the Borking.Basically all we could do was hope he was conservative,but knowing what we do now about GHW,we were over optimistic.I don't recall much about Kennedy but I think he was another unknown,Roberts was sold as being first rate.Oh well.

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 01:10 PM (r/0kC)

177 You want more pitch forks? Because this is how you get more pitch forks.

Posted by: Drill Thrawl at March 23, 2017 01:10 PM (0Askb)

178 c) blackmail. I think Roberts must have been threatened somehow.

Irish adoptions.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:08 PM (eauMe)

Bullshit. Don't go trying to find excuses for Benedict Roberts. There are none. He is exactly who he appears to be - a worthless, treasonous POS who doesn't give a shit about the Constitution and isn't qualified to sit on anything but a park bench.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 23, 2017 01:10 PM (zc3Db)

179 Every Left wing wet dream special interest group is testifying today against Gorsuch

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 01:11 PM (KlI/a)

180 175 "I'm sure the Maine twins will "heroically" vote no "to preserve the spirit of the Senate"

You mean Collins and MS. Lindsey? Because the other twin is gone isn't She?

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:11 PM (O2RFr)

181 Ha.

"Guys, calm down. This isn't real. It's fake news. The Republicans aren't this stup-

Well, okay, nevermind, but THIS particular thing isn't happening!"

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 23, 2017 01:11 PM (/f1mm)

182 172 Meh,he got it reattached and functioning well enough that he did porn.A bit crooked,but them's the breaks.

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 01:11 PM (r/0kC)

183 The GOPe is the Cleveleand Browns of political parties. They're always "rebuilding" the team, so you can't expect any results just yet. And they always waste draft picks on duds.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 23, 2017 01:11 PM (KUaJL)

184 182 172 Meh,he got it reattached and functioning well enough that he did porn.A bit crooked,but them's the breaks

This too is the story of the GOP

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:12 PM (O2RFr)

185 Democrats: Dicks

Republicans: Sandra Fluke

Posted by: FredoPe at March 23, 2017 01:12 PM (87y4e)

186 nothing like being on hold with the VA...

i think i've found the real cause of the vet suicide rate.

:p

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2017 01:12 PM (sm9eL)

187

There are no more Maine Twins.

Olympia Snowe retired.

Anus King, a former governor and fascist who pretends he's an "Independent" is the other Maine senator now.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 23, 2017 01:12 PM (iNv61)

188 Quit beating around the bush POP. Tell us how ya' feel.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 01:13 PM (/BTP8)

189 Every Left wing wet dream special interest group is testifying today against Gorsuch

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 01:11 PM (KlI/a)

And when he gets on the Supreme Court I hope he remembers how much they hate him and makes every ruling like it's a knife in their hearts

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 01:13 PM (493sH)

190 Democrats = Lucy with a football
Republicans = Charlie Brown
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 12:53 PM (493sH)

Democrats = Acme Corporation

Republicans = Wile E. Coyote

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 23, 2017 01:08 PM (lKyWE)

Democrats = Harry Reid

Republicans = amyl nitrate-stuffed Cub Scout

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 23, 2017 01:13 PM (X6fMO)

191 A bit crooked,but them's the breaks

Heh. That's a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Bubba Clinton at March 23, 2017 01:13 PM (vtcmf)

192 Democrats = Couchfucker

Posted by: FredoPe at March 23, 2017 01:14 PM (87y4e)

193 "Every Left wing wet dream special interest group is testifying today against Gorsuch"

What are they saying? Landing any punches?

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:14 PM (SIY7D)

194 I didn't realize she'd retired. Ok then, the remaining twin.

Posted by: Lauren at March 23, 2017 01:14 PM (+vGDO)

195 The smart thing to do would be to make the deal, then immediately break it the second it becomes inconvenient. Like exactly what Dems do and have done to us.

But the problem with the GOP is not so much that it's stupid (or even cowardly), but that it's not actually on the same side as its voters.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 23, 2017 01:14 PM (S2VsH)

196 We didn't riot, we voted, donated, volunteered and gave them the house, the senate and the Presidency, because that's what we're supposed to do to get the policies we want right? Now what?
Posted by: spypeach at March 23, 2017 12:48 PM (u/r83)

Now we riot?

It's not as if the media doesn't make that accusation every time more than 2 conservatives get together anyhow. As opposed to the "mostly peaceful" firebombing, looting, beatings, shootings, and otherwise trashing everything whenever the left shows up anywhere.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 01:14 PM (n3oGs)

197 Bullshit. Don't go trying to find excuses for Benedict Roberts. There
are none. He is exactly who he appears to be - a worthless, treasonous
POS who doesn't give a shit about the Constitution and isn't qualified
to sit on anything but a park bench.
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this can't be said often enough...

F that useless corksucker in particular.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2017 01:15 PM (sm9eL)

198 Crap!

Democrats = Couchfucker

Republicans = Semen Encrusted Couch

Posted by: FredoPe at March 23, 2017 01:15 PM (87y4e)

199 GOP Plan: To avoid pissing off (1) people who are benefiting from Obamacare and (2) people who are being screwed by Obamacare, we need to pass a bill that (1) is less generous to people who are benefiting from Obamacare and (2) does nothing for most people who are being screwed by Obamacare. Brilliant!

Posted by: Self-driving car>>Safe space>>Adult coloring books at March 23, 2017 01:15 PM (qYCgM)

200 199 GOP Plan: To avoid pissing off (1) people who are benefiting from Obamacare and (2) people who are being screwed by Obamacare, we need to pass a bill that (1) is less generous to people who are benefiting from Obamacare and (2) does nothing for most people who are being screwed by Obamacare. Brilliant!

No matter what they pass, it won't survive the Senate anyway...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:16 PM (O2RFr)

201
Oh there's John Limpwood on CNBC tells us all about the Freedom Caucus. If ever a face was in need of a punch or two

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 01:16 PM (493sH)

202 Gorsuch will betray the counter-revolution. Ice pick a few politicians to get the attention of the rest.

Next step is a Unicameral legislature with 1,500 to 2,000 representatives and a nationwide election for Speaker.

Posted by: V.I. Lenin at March 23, 2017 01:16 PM (dZGNV)

203 Souter was a blank slate with no paper trail picked after the Borking.Basically all we could do was hope he was conservative,but knowing what we do now about GHW,we were over optimistic.I don't recall much about Kennedy but I think he was another unknown,Roberts was sold as being first rate.Oh well.
Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 01:10 PM (r/0kC)

After Bork, Bush should have found someone even further to the right. You don't go squishy. You go all in and let them know it will keep getting worse. Of course every Bush folds like a cheap suit. Please clap.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 23, 2017 01:17 PM (J70i0)

204 F that useless corksucker in particular.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2017 01:15 PM

AND the limpwrist blueblood President that appointed him, and whose family is the direct root cause of nearly all GOP rot.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 23, 2017 01:17 PM (S2VsH)

205 Anus King, a former governor and fascist who pretends he's an "Independent" is the other Maine senator now.
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 23, 2017 01:12 PM (iNv61)

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Who the HELL names their kid ANUS KING????

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:17 PM (8XRCm)

206 165
ChadPergram
23/03/17 13:15
#BREAKING Freedom Caucus source after WH mtg on health care pkg: no deal yet
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 23, 2017 01:08 PM (y3aQB)

Let's hope the Donald is just pushing for a good (from his perspective) deal and not thinking of going forward as is.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:17 PM (RD7QR)

207 Politico reports...
#fakenews

Posted by: Under Fire at March 23, 2017 01:18 PM (57R5r)

208 200 199 GOP Plan: To avoid pissing off (1) people who are benefiting from Obamacare and (2) people who are being screwed by Obamacare, we need to pass a bill that (1) is less generous to people who are benefiting from Obamacare and (2) does nothing for most people who are being screwed by Obamacare. Brilliant!

No matter what they pass, it won't survive the Senate anyway...
Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:16 PM (O2RFr)

It would if there was an actual majority leader in the Senate.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 23, 2017 01:18 PM (J70i0)

209 Who the HELL names their kid ANUS KING????

I think that's a great name.

Posted by: Hope's Rolo at March 23, 2017 01:18 PM (vtcmf)

210 >>Who the HELL names their kid ANUS KING???? Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:17 PM (8XRCm)

The father who respects his son enough not to name him Anus Queen.

Posted by: General Zod at March 23, 2017 01:18 PM (Bdeb0)

211 The hard fact is that the libtards have scrapple for brains, and yet they can sprint circles around the GOP, every damn time. What does that tell you?

Posted by: washrivergal at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (Ivjge)

212 Yes they are this stupid, and they'd like to keep running on issues that don't get resolved so they can fund raise.
I'm going with full on Dipshit stupid. Fix what ya promised to and watch as things turn around and you'd freeze the demoRats out for years to come. The Republicans in DC are still 'stuck on stuipd', acting like they are still held hostage to Dems. Trump WON because he was willing to FIGHT. The congress repubs position for Gorsuch, and Obamacare repeal should be Full steam ahead make the dems scrap and fight.
Filibuster - Sure the Repubs can nuke the filibuster of cloture, but as outlined by others smarter than me, make the Dems ACTUALLY DO THE FILIBUSTER WORK! Make them schedule and work up people to take all though the night, while committee business happens during the day. Enforce rules they can only speak once, and get the nomination work done.
As for this RINOCare bill, The default position should be repeal the entire shitshow, and negotiate to get a passage, not 'Lets jsut start with what we can get past via reconciliation only.' Im willing to bet that if they started with a better bill, knowing the dems won't pass it, but then kept the pressure on, you'd peel off a few over time to a better bill that just giving them stuff right out the gate.
All that pre-supposes the Republicans are actually trying to solve the problems they said they would once in power, but I'm truly beginning to think just like you Ace, and they don't want to change anything.

Posted by: Janir at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (Lk5qN)

213 205>> Pretty sure its ANGUS but if the moniker fits...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (i0ykY)

214 No matter what they pass, it won't survive the Senate anyway...
Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:16 PM (O2RFr)

It would if there was an actual majority leader in the Senate.

Yup...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (O2RFr)

215 If ever a face was in need of a punch or two

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 01:16 PM

I keep asking why I'm chopped liver?

Posted by: Egg McMuffin's Super-Punchable Visage at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (S2VsH)

216 are they stupid or corrupt or both?

Obamacare was designed to fail, (and it is) so as to force people to cry Uncle (Sam), and smiling Hillary would deliver 'single payer' government care.

So Trump thwarted that sorta, but is going with RyanCare that keeps costs skyrocketed for at least a few years. That mostly advances the failure theater of the left, but puts all the blame on Republicans.

Not only do costs keep spiraling upward, but doctors check on your gun cabinet, and illegals are in like Flynn (except Flynn is out). Trump won with border control and jobs, but is taking care of Ryan/McConnel first.

Stirewalt points out that whatever comes out of the House will get less conservative in the Senate, not more conservative. Rates have to come down ... take out illegals and maternity care and put the prexisting condition people in their own subsidized pool. Currently, all those freebies are funded by skyrocketing the cost on the healthy person that liked their insurance.

The real tax/penalty was the huge $5000/yr increase on the people already insured. It was not for their insurance, it was for the illegals and free loaders. Fix it now or just say no.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (BrMft)

217 200 199 GOP Plan: To avoid pissing off (1) people who are benefiting from Obamacare and (2) people who are being screwed by Obamacare, we need to pass a bill that (1) is less generous to people who are benefiting from Obamacare and (2) does nothing for most people who are being screwed by Obamacare. Brilliant!

No matter what they pass, it won't survive the Senate anyway...
Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:16 PM (O2RFr)

RAND PAUL! has said he will vote against as it now stands and probably has enough with him that it could not pass. That's why I want the Donald to go with the Freedom Caucus modifications.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (RD7QR)

218 I know a Richard "Dick" Hertz and a Randall "Randy" Dick.

Also Michael Hymen in high school. Parents didn't foresee "Buster" as a nickname.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (SIY7D)

219
Damn, I should have gone into politics. I'm watching these really cute reporterettes chasing after members of the Freedom Caucus asking questions. Honey, I'll give you an exclusive

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (493sH)

220 GOP Plan: To avoid pissing off (1) people who are benefiting from Obamacare and (2) people who are being screwed by Obamacare, we need to pass a bill that (1) is less generous to people who are benefiting from Obamacare and (2) does nothing for most people who are being screwed by Obamacare. Brilliant!
Posted by: Self-driving car>>Safe space>>Adult coloring books at March 23, 2017 01:15 PM (qYCgM)

Yeah I love that. We're keeping the stupid mandates. Oh and we're going to jack up the prices on older people, 1 to 5 ratio now instead of 1 to 3, keeping the marketplace, and well just live with it and be grateful for our help.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 23, 2017 01:20 PM (J70i0)

221 Anus King, a former governor and fascist who pretends he's an "Independent" is the other Maine senator now.
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 23, 2017 01:12 PM (iNv61)

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Who the HELL names their kid ANUS KING????

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:17 PM (8XRCm)

Of course it's actually Angus.

In which case, the answer is people who f**k cows.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2017 01:20 PM (TOk1P)

222
GOP plan - won't survive the senate.

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Well, I'm thinking if the house passes something, the senate will change it, if the senate passes anything at all, then it goes back to the house, where a senate poison pill won't pass the house.

And we're stuck with obamcare for another four years.

Delay, delay, delay, obstruct, obstruct, obstruct.

Posted by: Angus Blackheart at March 23, 2017 01:20 PM (IOuZT)

223 I will put $100 on Yes they are that Stupid.

Posted by: Paladin at March 23, 2017 01:21 PM (QGbEp)

224 "No matter what they pass, it won't survive the Senate anyway... "

I think that's part of the long-term plan

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:21 PM (SIY7D)

225 82,
"Gut says he's good, but brain says "THEY ALWAYS TRICK US WITH SHIT LIKE
THIS! REMEMBER SOUTER, KENNEDY, ROBERTS" so... I don't know."

With Obama everything depends on what's in the "Incidentals." Hillary only had the FBI raw clearance investigation files. Obama had/has everything. Community Organizing runs of terror and threat. The main problem is how to to build a construct that covers for the real reasons for weaseling out.

Posted by: geoffb5 at March 23, 2017 01:21 PM (d3wbb)

226 Who the HELL names their kid ANUS KING???? Posted by: fixerupper

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It's not a bad moniker..

Posted by: Cornelius Stool at March 23, 2017 01:21 PM (7ZVPa)

227 Amash saying nothing came out of meeting w/ Trump.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (b7fwp)

228 Who the HELL names their kid ANUS KING????

I think that's a great name.

You're the ASSMAN!

Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (87y4e)

229 So this deal hasn't actually happened, correct?

So people here are screaming at the GOP* for doing something that they haven't done?

Is that a correct assessment of this?

*Not that they can't be screamed at because why not, it's Thursday, just trying to understand.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (hLRSq)

230 224 "No matter what they pass, it won't survive the Senate anyway... "

I think that's part of the long-term plan
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:21 PM (SIY7D)

+++

It's time for Trump to pull out his Bic and EO it away.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (Ivjge)

231 Who the HELL names their kid ANUS KING????

I think that's a great name.

Posted by: Hope's Rolo at March 23, 2017 01:18 PM (vtcmf)

Just shoot me now.

Posted by: Zombie Dick Trickle at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (TOk1P)

232 You guys realize that this was a rumor-trial balloon-that some reporter from politico ran with the story of. This isn't a real thing that everybody is getting into hysterics over . The administration was then asked about if this rumor ended up turning into an actual negotiating request from the Democrats what would the Republicans do and the answers have all been absolutely not. The outrage and angst on here over something that isn't even real is breathtaking. I thought we were able to recognize fake news a little better than this.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (9z842)

233 Rates have to come down ... take out illegals and maternity care and put the prexisting condition people in their own subsidized pool. Currently, all those freebies are funded by skyrocketing the cost on the healthy person that liked their insurance.

The real tax/penalty was the huge $5000/yr increase on the people already insured. It was not for their insurance, it was for the illegals and free loaders. Fix it now or just say no.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (BrMft)

People keep conflating pre-existing conditions with chronic conditions. Pre-existing conditions weren't a problem as long as you maintained coverage. If you didn't you had a one year wait. Chronic conditions are the thing that kills your rates because of my wife I know. When a worked for a mid-size company and the insurance company was setting rates for the next year, they called me directly about my wife's condition. What we need is a pool for chronic conditions.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (J70i0)

234 Republicans = Semen Encrusted Couch

No need to get personal, now.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (X6fMO)

235 "I thought we were able to recognize fake news a little better than this."

It is the lede at the top of the thread.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (SIY7D)

236 If I had twins, the other would be Taint King.

Posted by: Hope's Rolo at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (vtcmf)

237 So this deal hasn't actually happened, correct?

So people here are screaming at the GOP* for doing something that they haven't done?

Hasn't happened.

YET.

The fact that there even is a "deal" to speak of is scream worthy.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (eauMe)

238 229 So this deal hasn't actually happened, correct?

So people here are screaming at the GOP* for doing something that they haven't done?

Is that a correct assessment of this?

*Not that they can't be screamed at because why not, it's Thursday, just trying to understand.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (hLRSq)

It's preemptive screaming. They've betrayed us so often that we're like a wife screaming at her philandering husband when he notices the waitress's tits.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (RD7QR)

239 Damn, I should have gone into politics. I'm watching these really cute reporterettes chasing after members of the Freedom Caucus asking questions. Honey, I'll give you an exclusive
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (493sH)

But first...

Posted by: Congressman Mel Gibson at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (n3oGs)

240 As some here have been repeatedly pointing out RE Obamacare: "The Dems Made US Do It" ceases to be a valid excuse when the R's have all the power and are refusing to exercise it.

Like with Ocare, they will not be the majority past 2018 if they don't start acting like the majority.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (FTXAT)

241 The Anus King spends a lot of time on the throne.

Posted by: josephistan at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (7HtZB)

242 The hard fact is that the libtards have scrapple for brains, and yet they can sprint circles around the GOP, every damn time. What does that tell you?
Posted by: washrivergal

The obvious answer, they are in collusion with the Democrats.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (vRcUp)

243 Various Freedom caucus members being interviewed on FBN. Sounds like this isn't going for a vote today.

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (Enq6K)

244 Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (9z842)

Forget it, Jen; it's AoSHQtown.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

245 If I had twins, the other would be Taint King.

Triplets. Peter King, Anus King, Taint King.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:25 PM (eauMe)

246 FBN is covering the House members coming out of the meeting on OCare.

I want to know who the hot blonde reporter is!!

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 23, 2017 01:25 PM (8iiMU)

247 So people here are screaming at the GOP* for doing something that they haven't done?

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Think of it as a "Un uh..... you better effin not!!!"

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:25 PM (8XRCm)

248 Every Left wing wet dream special interest group is testifying today against Gorsuch

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 01:11 PM (KlI/a)

Arrest them on the way out, and then investigate their asses. They've doubtless committed all sorts of crimes, because leftists.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2017 01:25 PM (SRKgf)

249 "Chronic conditions are the thing that kills your rates"

Most of our health care spending goes to chronic care. Increases in diabetes spending alone, on current trajectory, will break the bank.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:25 PM (SIY7D)

250 Will this healthcare bill LOWER COSTS?

If it doesn't, why the fuck is anyone even considering voting on it?

Our GOP is literally filled with traitors!

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at March 23, 2017 01:25 PM (NAv1Q)

251 Amash saying nothing came out of meeting w/ Trump.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (b7fwp)
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Trump is meeting with the Amish? I thought they were exempt from Obamacare.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 01:26 PM (lwiT4)

252 Off Topic but I really hope ace puts up a post about the peer reviewed article he retweeted complaining about how men get pleasure from orgasming but also get pleasure from making their partners orgasm. "Masculinity Achievement" is what its called and I think we could have much fun in the topic.

Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2017 01:26 PM (z/Ubi)

253

I don't know if it means anything, but Led Zepplin's 'Gallows Pole' has been coming up in my iTunes playlist quite often. I think it might be a sign from God.

Posted by: Angus Blackheart at March 23, 2017 01:26 PM (IOuZT)

254 DNC vice chair Keith Ellison at a save health care rally on Freedom Plaza: "Yes we've got to redistribute" the wealth in this country.

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 23, 2017 01:26 PM (y3aQB)

255 She is easy to spot.
All the others are 'less pretty'.

And, I think she is not really blonde....

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 23, 2017 01:26 PM (8iiMU)

256 Not stupid, complicit.

Time for PDT to start running out a second political party in this country, call it the MAGA party, and get all the deadwood out of the swamp that is blocking the drain. 2018 is coming up quick.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (9AVZA)

257 Increases in diabetes spending alone, on current trajectory, will break the bank.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:25 PM (SIY7D)
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Put everyone on an insulin-resistant, low carb diet. Boom. Done.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (lwiT4)

258 252
Off Topic but I really hope ace puts up a post about the peer reviewed
article he retweeted complaining about how men get pleasure from
orgasming but also get pleasure from making their partners orgasm.
"Masculinity Achievement" is what its called and I think we could have
much fun in the topic.

Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2017 01:26 PM (z/Ubi)

So a day ending in y then?

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (Enq6K)

259 254 DNC vice chair Keith Ellison at a save health care rally on Freedom Plaza: "Yes we've got to redistribute" the wealth in this country

Keith let's start with You...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (O2RFr)

260 You guys realize that this was a rumor-trial balloon-that some reporter from politico ran with the story of. This isn't a real thing that everybody is getting into hysterics over .

Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (9z842)

Don't act as if this were something well beyond the GOP. The Senate turds already made a junior version of this deal with the dems right after they got back control of the Senate, as regarded a slew of administration nominations (including the illegal one that Barky had slimed through on the labor board) in return for ... nothing.

We've seen this movie before - actually played out - too many times to write it off. This is not only something that the GOP would contemplate seriously, it's something that they've already done, and done at the exact time that they didn't need to do it - like after they won the Senate and a court came down with the obvious decision that Barky wasn't allowed to declare that the Senate was out of session and then just shove his maoist nominee through.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (zc3Db)

261 I want to know who the hot blonde reporter is!!

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 23, 2017 01:25 PM (8iiMU)

That's what I was talking about upstream. The one in the purple dress.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (493sH)

262 251 Amash saying nothing came out of meeting w/ Trump.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 23, 2017 01:22 PM (b7fwp)
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Trump is meeting with the Amish? I thought they were exempt from Obamacare.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 01:26 PM (lwiT4)

Ja, but de English wanted a nice dresser.

Posted by: Johan Fretz at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (RD7QR)

263 "Chronic conditions are the thing that kills your rates"

Most of our health care spending goes to chronic care. Increases in diabetes spending alone, on current trajectory, will break the bank.

Posted by: Ignoramus

True. But you too can get free catheters just by calling this 1-800 number!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (eauMe)

264 It's not stupid, it's advanced.

Posted by: Tallest Red at March 23, 2017 01:28 PM (KUaJL)

265 Hasn't happened.

YET.

The fact that there even is a "deal" to speak of is scream worthy.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (eauMe)

Is there a deal or is it just something that one person said and no one has taken up?

Because if so, let me offer a deal where I turn all of America over to China in exchange for an hour of backgammon with Kate Upton.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 01:28 PM (hLRSq)

266 >>> So this deal hasn't actually happened, correct?

So people here are screaming at the GOP* for doing something that they haven't done?
.......

It's necessary to loose your mind on your congress critter preemptively and on a regular basis.

Occasionally it makes some of them reconsider their unfailing support of whatever their leadership masters are demanding from them.

Usually it does nothing except give them something to copy and paste into the next round of fundraising letters and adds a few more emails to their list to sell to whoever is buying.

Posted by: Congressman Mel Gibson at March 23, 2017 01:28 PM (n3oGs)

267 Ace what conservative judge do you like?

I suspect Gorsuch might be too conservative for the Libertarian Ace that is for abortion, gay marriage--and probably laissez faire when it comes to assisted suicide.

So --what potential nominees would you like?

Anyways--when Ruth Bade Ginsburg is replaced you will get--

Diane Sykes--and you will like it!

Posted by: Holmes at March 23, 2017 01:28 PM (fi5nC)

268 What did the Democrats offer Republicans when they last controlled the Senate?

I can't seem to remember.

But there are absolutely still people on "our side" that think the filibuster is a good idea even if it empowers Democrats, destroys Trump's agenda, and will be killed as soon as Schumer retakes control.

But we have to have our traditions.

Posted by: Maritime at March 23, 2017 01:28 PM (9cYRJ)

269 Republican's = Grease trap at the local rib shack

Posted by: Under Fire at March 23, 2017 01:28 PM (57R5r)

270 Put everyone on an insulin-resistant, low carb diet. Boom. Done.

Yes. It's for the chirruns.

Posted by: Mooch at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (vtcmf)

271 Sounds like this isn't going for a vote today.

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (Enq6K)
=======================

Good. That means the leadership knows it doesn't have the votes to pass it, and changes are going to have to be made that will satisfy the conservatives. Works for me.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (lwiT4)

272 #264

That's what the enemy will think.

Posted by: OCBill at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (df+Zi)

273 Put everyone on an insulin-resistant, low carb diet. Boom. Done.
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That would kill me in a week or less.

Posted by: Angus Blackheart at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (IOuZT)

274 Trump is meeting with the Amish? I thought they were exempt from Obamacare.

You too can be exempt with this one easy trick!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (eauMe)

275 GOPe duplicity aside, I think Schumer and Obama have decided that the filibuster is useless anyway, since if they use it, they lose it. Better to just please the wingnut base, use the filibuster, have it taken away and cry "Hitler" all the way to possible electoral victory in 2018 mid-terms.

Schumer and King Cockroach are betting that further dividing the country with arrogance, meaness, stupidity, extremism and lies is the path back to power.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (m6qV1)

276 Sounds about right, ace. Senate Republicans have performed this farce with immigration for years, and are pissing themselves over the possibility the House will send Obamacare Lite over to them. Hint: the Senate GOP wants open borders and for Obamacare to continue.

The ideal situation, of course, would be to force the Democrats to filibuster the sterling nominee Gorsuch and then implement the nuclear option. That would fall squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats and allow the GOP to shove through the next nominee without the circus of a long hearing. Whoops, sorry, I forgot you were right.

I also have to take note that a whistleblower just claimed the NSA, FBI and CIA surveilled the chief justice of the USSC. God knows what they have on the likes of Lindsey Graham.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (tfjpU)

277 Why does Justin Amash remind me of the polar opposite of Nancy Pelosi? He's just as nutty to the right as she is to the left. He literally will not vote for anything unless it is 100% conservative by his definition. He's like a male Mommy Dearest "no wire hangers" !

Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (9z842)

278 "probably laissez faire when it comes to assisted suicide."

Gorsuch wrote a whole book against it.

It might be a signal that's he's against abortion.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (SIY7D)

279 Because if so, let me offer a deal where I turn all
of America over to China in exchange for an hour of backgammon with Kate
Upton.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 01:28 PM (hLRSq)

I'm sure I'd 'bear off' before she does.....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 23, 2017 01:30 PM (8iiMU)

280
*taps chin*

I wonder how many Richard Kings there are in the US???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:30 PM (8XRCm)

281 But it's cute when you deny your libertine ways.

tsk, tsk.

Posted by: Holmes at March 23, 2017 01:30 PM (fi5nC)

282 Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Don't let the good be the enemy of the good rant.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 01:30 PM (lwiT4)

283 Is there any indication whatsoever that Republicans are actually considering this deal or is it all speculation in the liberal media designed to keep us arguing and fighting?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:30 PM (/tuJf)

284 Democrats = Lorena Bobbitt

Republicans = John Bobbitt's dick
Posted by: Rick in SK

This is the real reason I'm a Republican. But still no luck as yet. *sob*. It's still there. The horrid thing is still there.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 23, 2017 01:30 PM (vRcUp)

285 This guy Shithouse from RI is a nasty little gray haired prick ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 01:30 PM (KlI/a)

286 off topic but notable, undoubtedly a big Trump fan:

A Jewish man who is a dual Israeli-American citizen has been arrested in
Israel in connection with a series of bomb threats made against Jewish
community centers and Jewish schools in the United States and other
countries, sources told ABC News.

from abc news: http://tinyurl.com/mfum8th

read the last paragraph for the cover-up of the previous arrest.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 23, 2017 01:31 PM (b7fwp)

287 278 "probably laissez faire when it comes to assisted suicide."

Gorsuch wrote a whole book against it.

It might be a signal that's he's against abortion.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (SIY7D)

***************

I was talking about Ace.

Ace runs very Libertarian in certain areas--so I'm sure Gorsuch makes him squirm just a touch.

Posted by: Holmes at March 23, 2017 01:31 PM (fi5nC)

288 What did the Democrats offer Republicans when they last controlled the Senate?

I can't seem to remember.

But there are absolutely still people on "our side" that think the
filibuster is a good idea even if it empowers Democrats, destroys
Trump's agenda, and will be killed as soon as Schumer retakes control.

But we have to have our traditions.

Posted by: Maritime at March 23, 2017 01:28 PM (9cYRJ)

I seem to recall a lot of them saying "we won" and nothing much else.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:31 PM (FTXAT)

289 Is there any indication whatsoever that Republicans are actually considering this deal or is it all speculation in the liberal media designed to keep us arguing and fighting?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:30 PM (/tuJf)

Well this Thread is not going to populate itself

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 01:31 PM (KlI/a)

290 190 Democrats = Harry Reid

Republicans = amyl nitrate-stuffed Cub Scout
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 23, 2017 01:13 PM (X6fMO)

Twink Cordon Bleu?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 01:31 PM (mbhDw)

291 Put everyone on an insulin-resistant, low carb diet.

Low carb diet?

Filet mignon 7 nights a week FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:31 PM (eauMe)

292 True. But you too can get free catheters just by calling this 1-800 number!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (eauMe)

What about that chair thingy that goes up the stairs and around the corner and into my walk-in bathtub and I can also poop in it?

Is that free too? Cuz my neighbor got one, and they only had to knock out one side of his house to install it.

Now, I don't just want it free, I also don't want to fill out any forms.

Posted by: Mehdi Kaire at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (TOk1P)

293 Like with Ocare, they will not be the majority past 2018 if they don't start acting like the majority.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (FTXAT)

They are acting the the majority. They are doing whatever the fuck they want.

The confusion is people still cling to the silly notion that their elected fucktard goes to DC to represent the people who elect them. Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (n3oGs)

294 "Do I have a deal for you" said the spider to the fly

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (KlI/a)

295 >>Well this Thread is not going to populate itself

We bitch an awful lot about Republicans in Congress but we are pretty damn good at taking the bait ourselves.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (/tuJf)

296
No matter what they pass, it won't survive the Senate anyway...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:16 PM (O2RFr) RAND PAUL! has said he will vote against as it now stands and
probably has enough with him that it could not pass. That's why I want
the Donald to go with the Freedom Caucus modifications. Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:19 PM (RD7QR)
=====

Maybe I am misremembering, but the Freedom Caucus was much more open to working with DJT than the RINOs. I sure hope PDT is thinking it through -- because his support came from the various 'freedom' groups, not the GOPe.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (MIKMs)

297 You do wonder that if these SC picks had any spirit of compromise and bipartisanship, they probably lose it after Democrats go through this farce and basically call them Nazis that hate women.

It's not like these are reasonable questions for a spirited public debate, it's just character assassination.

Posted by: Maritime at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (9cYRJ)

298 286 off topic but notable, undoubtedly a big Trump fan:

A Jewish man who is a dual Israeli-American citizen has been arrested in
Israel in connection with a series of bomb threats made against Jewish
community centers and Jewish schools in the United States and other
countries, sources told ABC News.

from abc news: http://tinyurl.com/mfum8th

read the last paragraph for the cover-up of the previous arrest.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 23, 2017 01:31 PM (b7fwp)

Jewish like whom; Menachem Schneerson or Noam Chomsky?

There is a difference.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (mbhDw)

299 JS

Yep--it's all they've got.

Meanwhile....

Diane Sykes! Diane Sykes! Diane Sykes!

Right up your middle Ace!

Posted by: Holmes at March 23, 2017 01:33 PM (fi5nC)

300 Will TrumpCare fund free hormone therapy and vaginoplaties?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 23, 2017 01:33 PM (vRcUp)

301 Off Topic but I really hope ace puts up a post about the peer reviewed article he retweeted complaining about how men get pleasure from orgasming but also get pleasure from making their partners orgasm

LOLWUT?

Posted by: Goatfuckers at March 23, 2017 01:33 PM (87y4e)

302 I wish our side was as practiced with our judges/politicians as the left is.

A person on the left will swear up and down that they believe "marriage is between a man and a woman" and say exactly whatever we want them to during the confirmation hearings or debates, but when they get into the seat, everybody knows they're going to have "evolved consciousness" or whatever and vote the way the left wants them to.

We need to be better at having people who say one thing and do the other... in our favor instead of capitulating to the enemy.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 23, 2017 01:33 PM (KUaJL)

303 Off Topic but I really hope ace puts up a post about the peer reviewed article he retweeted complaining about how men get pleasure from orgasming but also get pleasure from making their partners orgasm. "Masculinity Achievement" is what its called and I think we could have much fun in the topic.

Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2017 01:26 PM (z/Ubi)

So the Stones lyric about making a dead man come is true, then?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 23, 2017 01:34 PM (X6fMO)

304 "I was talking about Ace."

Sorry. Misread you

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:34 PM (SIY7D)

305 If everyone got on a low-carb, low-fat, no-sugar, no-synthesized fat, low-sodium diet we could reduce the increase in health care costs by 0.0001% and increase the miserableness by several orders of magnitude! A win! win! bigly outcome for all.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 23, 2017 01:34 PM (SsblQ)

306 "It's necessary to loose your mind on your congress critter preemptively and on a regular basis."

Actually, if you are flipping out on a regular basis you get ignored. You're put into the lunatic caller list and will be disconnected as soon as they learn who you are. Save the real outrage for when there is something to be outraged about and it will have effect.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 01:34 PM (hLRSq)

307 A Jewish man who is a dual Israeli-American citizen has been arrested in
Israel in connection with a series of bomb threats made against Jewish
community centers and Jewish schools in the United States and other
countries, sources told ABC News.

from abc news: http://tinyurl.com/mfum8th

read the last paragraph for the cover-up of the previous arrest.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 23, 2017 01:31 PM (b7fwp)

Jewish like whom; Menachem Schneerson or Noam Chomsky?

There is a difference.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (mbhDw)

He has mental issues and was denied Entry into the IDF for such. He has also done similar things to institutions in Israel. Not to mention he attack a Female Officer at his arrest and tried to steal her gun. IE a nut case.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 01:34 PM (KlI/a)

308 275 GOPe duplicity aside, I think Schumer and Obama have decided that the filibuster is useless anyway, since if they use it, they lose it. Better to just please the wingnut base, use the filibuster, have it taken away and cry "Hitler" all the way to possible electoral victory in 2018 mid-terms.

Schumer and King Cockroach are betting that further dividing the country with arrogance, meaness, stupidity, extremism and lies is the path back to power.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (m6qV1)

If PDT gets the court he wants and if the GOP actually passes the REAL reforms he/we want, then I wouldn't worry about 2018 and probably not even 2020.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 01:34 PM (mbhDw)

309 Johnny McSwagger has made a 30 year career out of strutting and crowing like a peacock, all the while doing jack shit. Everybody in the fraternity wants a piece of that action.

Posted by: Fritz at March 23, 2017 01:35 PM (5zYqI)

310 Is there any indication whatsoever that Republicans are actually considering this deal or is it all speculation in the liberal media designed to keep us arguing and fighting?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:30 PM (/tuJf)

*looks over GOP betrayal history for the prior 8, 16, 24+ years*

Yeah, I'd say that there is plenty of indications.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 01:35 PM (n3oGs)

311 The self-hating bomb threat Jew should be sentenced to the harshest punishment known to Jewry - a lifetime of paying retail prices.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at March 23, 2017 01:35 PM (oZ6kz)

312
Why does Justin Amash remind me of the polar opposite of Nancy Pelosi? He's just as nutty to the right as she is to the left. He literally will not vote for anything unless it is 100% conservative by his definition. He's like a male Mommy Dearest "no wire hangers" !
Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2017 01:29 PM (9z842)

Well a no vote puts his name in the same column as Pelosi,Schumer and the rest of the democrats

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 23, 2017 01:35 PM (lKyWE)

313
Like with Ocare, they will not be the majority past 2018 if they don't start acting like the majority.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:24 PM (FTXAT)

They are acting the the majority. They are doing whatever the fuck they want.

The confusion is people still cling to the silly notion that their
elected fucktard goes to DC to represent the people who elect them.
Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (n3oGs)

Correction: If they don't start doing whatever the fuck the people who put them there want, they will not be a majority past 2018.

The people who put them there being the voters... not the rent seeking companies that try to buy them.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:35 PM (FTXAT)

314 299 JS

Yep--it's all they've got.

Meanwhile....

Diane Sykes! Diane Sykes! Diane Sykes!

Right up your middle Ace!
Posted by: Holmes at March 23, 2017 01:33 PM (fi5nC)

Dude, quit goading your host. Also, tell us why Diane Sykes is either (A) Worse than Hitler or (2) The second coming of Scalia.

Posted by: Johan Fretz at March 23, 2017 01:35 PM (RD7QR)

315 307
He has mental issues and was denied Entry into the IDF for such. He has also done similar things to institutions in Israel. Not to mention he attack a Female Officer at his arrest and tried to steal her gun. IE a nut case.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 01:34 PM (KlI/a)

So choice C was David Berkowitz. Then again, he was adopted.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2017 01:35 PM (mbhDw)

316 Filet mignon 7 nights a week FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:31 PM (eauMe)
=======================

Works for me. Steak and a salad. Hold the salad.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 01:36 PM (lwiT4)

317 280

*taps chin*

I wonder how many Richard Kings there are in the US???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:30 PM (8XRCm)

Well there are 445 dicks in Congress. 93 Womyn.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2017 01:36 PM (jxbfJ)

318 Off Topic but I really hope ace puts up a post about the peer reviewed article he retweeted complaining about how men get pleasure from orgasming but also get pleasure from making their partners orgasm

LOLWUT?
Posted by: Goatfuckers

Yeah. WHAT?
Posted by: Goats

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:36 PM (eauMe)

319 If Zell Miller had been a Republican, he would have been considered too far to the right for these GOPe weasels.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (PY9jH)

I love me some Zell Miller, who is one of the few truly principled politicians to show up on the national scene in my lifetime. His speech at the 2004 Republican convention was a profile in political courage.

Posted by: troyriser at March 23, 2017 01:36 PM (Fw5cQ)

320 Pelosi called Nunes a "stooge of the president."

Halle-fucking-lujah! We have FINALLY got a stooge! We haven't had any halfway decent stooges since Nixon. High time.

Posted by: General Zod at March 23, 2017 01:37 PM (Bdeb0)

321 We bitch an awful lot about Republicans in Congress but we are pretty damn good at taking the bait ourselves.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (/tuJf)

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Well.... maybe if the entire GOPe's past history doesnt put something like this in the realm of possibilty..... we wouldnt get so exorcised about it.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:37 PM (8XRCm)

322
Lunatic Fringe
I know you're out there
You're in hiding
And you hold your meetings
I can hear you comin'
I know what your after

They are out there. They can't be reasoned with, negotiated with, or bought off. They are coming for you. That is what they do. That is all they do, and they will not stop until you are dead.

Trust me, I am an expert on lunacy.

Posted by: Angus Blackheart at March 23, 2017 01:37 PM (IOuZT)

323 >>His speech at the 2004 Republican convention

"What are we gonna fight them with? Spitballs?!"

Posted by: General Zod at March 23, 2017 01:37 PM (Bdeb0)

324 320
Pelosi called Nunes a "stooge of the president."

Halle-fucking-lujah! We have FINALLY got a stooge! We haven't had any halfway decent stooges since Nixon. High time.

Posted by: General Zod at March 23, 2017 01:37 PM (Bdeb0)

Need to go easy on Pelosi. She hasn't been the same since that house fell on her sister.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2017 01:37 PM (jxbfJ)

325 Amish sockoff.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:38 PM (RD7QR)

326 There hasn't been a decent Stooge since Curly Howard died !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at March 23, 2017 01:38 PM (9AVZA)

327 "Well given the clusterfuck that is RyanCare, basically nothing these weasels do would shock me."

--------

Ryan was revealed as a lightweight when he couldn't even beat Biden in a debate. That he was given the speakership after that speaks volumes about the entire Republican Party.

The pushback against Trump is probably due to the fact that in eight years he may be able to reform and straighten out the party and the usual suspects are determined that he will not.

Posted by: Decaf at March 23, 2017 01:38 PM (Tm3Ti)

328 "Need to go easy on Pelosi. She hasn't been the same since that house fell on her sister."

Thread winner!

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:38 PM (SIY7D)

329 259 254 DNC vice chair Keith Ellison at a save health care rally on Freedom Plaza: "Yes we've got to redistribute" the wealth in this country

Keith let's start with You...
Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (O2RFr)

I'm all for it. Redistribute it from the blacks and the Muslims to the rest of us.

Oh, wait, that isn't what he had in mind, is it?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2017 01:38 PM (SRKgf)

330 He has mental issues and was denied Entry into the IDF for such. He has also done similar things to institutions in Israel. Not to mention he attack a Female Officer at his arrest and tried to steal her gun. IE a nut case.

Posted by: Nevergiveup

An extremely tech savvy nut case, though. He hit some issues of protecting his own identity that I'd consider very unique.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 23, 2017 01:39 PM (ZFUt7)

331 We need to be better at having people who say one thing and do the other... in our favor instead of capitulating to the enemy.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously

______

You're not the only one.

I've been saying that for a while, but our side demands Republicans say the stupid out loud.

When Democrats lie, it's usually to the general election voters and not the base.

Republicans lie to the base but keep their promises to the voters that never vote for them.

Take abortion for example, it would be so easy to stake out a real consensus pro-life position, but no, some groups want 100% purity that scares the hell out of voters.

Posted by: Maritime at March 23, 2017 01:39 PM (9cYRJ)

332 >>> Actually, if you are flipping out on a regular basis you get ignored. You're put into the lunatic caller list and will be disconnected as soon as they learn who you are.
.......

You are probably right, at least mostly.

Personally, I am convinced that any call that does not come in to the designated, private line for mega donors, fellow politicians, select media, hookers, and drug dealers is designated as a lunatic caller.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 01:39 PM (n3oGs)

333 Now, I don't just want it free, I also don't want to fill out any forms. Posted by: Mehdi Kaire at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (TOk1P)
=====

Just give your 'red white and blue' card numbers, with your social security numbers, and your property tax numbers, and you too can have NO COST TO YOU pain relieving medical devices!

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 23, 2017 01:39 PM (MIKMs)

334 Amish sockoff.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:38 PM (RD7QR)

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A mish sockoff.

Funny how a little tap on the spacebar makes a worlds difference.....

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:39 PM (8XRCm)

335 >>Well.... maybe if the entire GOPe's past history doesnt put something like this in the realm of possibilty..... we wouldnt get so exorcised about it.

Hmm. What history would that be? The one where not a single Republican voted for Obamacare? The one where they didn't vote for Obama's stimulus? The one where they stalled his agenda so much they forced him to go to pen and phone which allows Trump to undo them just as easily? The one where they said if elected they would repeal and replace Obamacare as they are doing as we speak?

Not seeing all this betrayal. Saw lots of liberal bullshit over the last 8 years but not much Republican betrayal.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:40 PM (/tuJf)

336 What's the old saying. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Except for politics. that shit is almost always malice.

Posted by: Dr. Mr. Badman at March 23, 2017 01:40 PM (cfjq1)

337 I like to think that Nunes was a "made" stooge...

Posted by: General Zod at March 23, 2017 01:40 PM (Bdeb0)

338
An extremely tech savvy nut case, though. He hit some issues of protecting his own identity that I'd consider very unique.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 23, 2017 01:39 PM (ZFUt7)

I did not say retarded. Apparently he had a brain tumor from the time he was 14 and was home schooled? And his father was also taken into custody, so who knows how he was involved. Hey we Jews have our nutcases also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 01:41 PM (KlI/a)

339
WTF is this Tuesday Group crap??

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 23, 2017 01:41 PM (iNv61)

340 "Pre-existing conditions weren't a problem as long as you maintained coverage. wopr

yeah, but I thought the pre-existing thing meant you could wait till you found cancer, then sign up.

The chronic coverage ... that is why they had plans with lifetime limits iirc.
And why non-smokers, healthy people got better rates. The death panel probably exists already for older people with chronic problems.

The plans people purchase should be very clear about chronic care limits. Do I want a plant that will pay out $20M over my life? Then I have to be willing to pay for that. But Obamacare makes me buy maternity care while I have no doctor and pay $15K + $6500 deductible before I get ANY insured care at all. The main function of the insurer is to negotiate my price down from the cash price (which is triple).

Meanwhile, we are importing TB patients and giving them disability and free everything.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2017 01:42 PM (BrMft)

341
Are you telling me that "moderate" Republican Shits had the balls to form their own fake moderate caucus??

The Tuesday Group??

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 23, 2017 01:42 PM (iNv61)

342 I absolutely think they should go for it, make the deal behind the scenes: "yes, you don't try to stop this nomination and we'll let you filibuster the next, if you feel you must. Shake on it."

Then, when the next one comes up, don't take their calls and block the filibuster. What do they have to lose? Democrat respect? The Dems have done this for decades, all the while screaming about how evil and monstrous their opposition is. Where did the Democrats leave the slightest room for leverage?

It only works to make a deal with someone if you've honored deals in the past and there's any level of penalty at all for breaking it. There isn't.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:42 PM (39g3+)

343 "If Zell Miller had been a Republican, he would have been considered too far to the right for these GOPe weasels.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2017 12:44 PM (PY9jH)"

--------

Sell Miller was too principled for either party and so Joe Lieberman. But McCain is the worst of both parties, I have the least time for him.

Posted by: Decaf at March 23, 2017 01:43 PM (Tm3Ti)

344 What we need now is another Congressionl Democrat sit-in.

Posted by: Nancy Peloski at March 23, 2017 01:43 PM (57R5r)

345 >>Are you telling me that "moderate" Republican Shits had the balls to form their own fake moderate caucus??

>>The Tuesday Group??

Yep. And it's got more members than the Freedom Caucus. Because all Republicans are super duper conservative and all that is needed is a straight repeal vote.

Or so I've heard.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (/tuJf)

346 I'm not trying to be snotty here but how does this comport with Chucky's statement that the Dems are going to filibuster Gorsuch?

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (mf5HN)

347
We bitch an awful lot about Republicans in Congress but we are pretty damn good at taking the bait ourselves.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:32 PM (/tuJf)

-----

Well.... maybe if the entire GOPe's past history doesnt put
something like this in the realm of possibilty..... we wouldnt get so
exorcised about it.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 01:37 PM (8XRCm)

Exactly... past history is a pretty good indication of future results in human behavior. We have replaced some RINOS with principled people but not nearly enough for them selling out to be a possibility. It is always a good time to remind them why those other guys got replaced.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (FTXAT)

348 Well there are 445 dicks in Congress. 93 Womyn.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2017 01:36 PM (jxbfJ)

Which side is Lindsey Graham counted on?

Posted by: Country Boy at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (Jcg9Q)

349 Personally, I think it's better to break their filibuster and embarass them than it is to change the rules.

for now.

break them, then change rules when they nominate ann coulter for next SCOTUS seat

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (55//3)

350 344 What we need now is another Congressionl Democrat sit-in.
Posted by: Nancy Peloski at March 23, 2017 01:43 PM (57R5r)

Well WE are certainly in favor of that.

Posted by: Red Star Catering Co. at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (RD7QR)

351 What we need now is another Congressionl Democrat sit-in.

***

what about an attempt to evade quorem rules by fleeing the state...er the country

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 23, 2017 01:45 PM (55//3)

352 Schumer is claiming they'll filibuster the nomination, its all just kabuki, its show to try to get this deal to go through.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:45 PM (39g3+)

353 Sell Miller was too principled for either party and so Joe Lieberman. But McCain is the worst of both parties, I have the least time for him.
Posted by: Decaf
_______

I think our side gave way too much credit to Lieberman.

The guy basically has the same exact voting record as Chuck Schumer, I guess we were supposed to think he was super awesome because he supported the war in Iraq. Like John Kerry, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton did.

This was always a Kristol creation

Posted by: Maritime at March 23, 2017 01:45 PM (9cYRJ)

354 308 J.J.--yeah, I'm not worried about their malign strategy succeeding. Just noting it. I think it will backfire anyway.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 23, 2017 01:45 PM (m6qV1)

355 346 I'm not trying to be snotty here but how does this comport with Chucky's statement that the Dems are going to filibuster Gorsuch?
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (mf5HN)

Unclear as yet but it might help if you sent one of the raptors to menace the squishier Republicans.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:46 PM (RD7QR)

356 This was always a Kristol creation

Bill Kristol: Putting the Neo back in NeoCon

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 23, 2017 01:47 PM (s/EUv)

357 352 Schumer is claiming they'll filibuster the nomination, its all just kabuki, its show to try to get this deal to go through.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:45 PM (39g3+)

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I wonder if there could develop a revolt in the Republican caucus of the Senate from the more conservative members to start undermining leadership if they allow this to go through...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 01:47 PM (ELUpj)

358 what about an attempt to evade quorum rules by fleeing the state

A Democratic Party classic!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:47 PM (39g3+)

359 259 254 DNC vice chair Keith Ellison at a save health care rally on Freedom Plaza: "Yes we've got to redistribute" the wealth in this country

Keith let's start with You...
Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:27 PM (O2RFr)

Sorry, but I have to ask about your orthography, in particular the often capitalized pronouns. Is that a function of autocucumber?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2017 01:47 PM (SRKgf)

360 Stupid is as Stupid does.

Posted by: Forrest Gump watching the GOP commit suicide at March 23, 2017 01:47 PM (ndGCC)

361 I'm telling you, they should make the deal then reneg when it comes to the next guy. Just flip off the Dems. It would cost them zero.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:48 PM (39g3+)

362 Republicans: Pissing Away Victory Since 1989.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 23, 2017 01:48 PM (MZcWR)

363 361 I'm telling you, they should make the deal then reneg when it comes to the next guy. Just flip off the Dems. It would cost them zero.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:48 PM (39g3+)

==================

Just imagine what The New York Times will say...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 01:48 PM (ELUpj)

364 And now I really should take a stab at working.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:48 PM (RD7QR)

365 Voters have repeatedly said that they want our broken system fixed. So we're reaching across the isle to do business.

Posted by: Senator Hogfart (R) at March 23, 2017 01:49 PM (drrTK)

366 How about this counteroffer? They don't block nominations, and we don't prosecute the Democrat Party under the RICO statutes?

And once all the nominees are confirmed, we prosecute them anyway. See, Dems, we learned something from you: all deals have an expiration date. They expire as soon as we get the part we want.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2017 01:49 PM (SRKgf)

367 Sorry, but I have to ask about your orthography, in particular the often capitalized pronouns. Is that a function of autocucumber?

Nope, just bad grammar...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:49 PM (O2RFr)

368 Hmm. What history would that be?

Its hard to decide if you're just that stupid, or hope we are?

Gang of Fourteen ring a bell?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (39g3+)

369 I think our side gave way too much credit to Lieberman.
The guy basically has the same exact voting record as Chuck Schumer, I guess we were supposed to think he was super awesome because he supported the war in Iraq. Like John Kerry, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton did.

--------------------------------
He originally had a lot of support from the National Review crowd for being more conservative than Lowell Weicker which may have actually been true depending on the importance assigned to various issues. He has always been a 'favorite' of Conservatism, Inc.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (SsblQ)

370 Pre-existing conditions weren't a problem as long as you maintained coverage. wopr

yeah, but I thought the pre-existing thing meant you could wait till you found cancer, then sign up.

The chronic coverage ... that is why they had plans with lifetime limits iirc.
And
why non-smokers, healthy people got better rates. The death panel
probably exists already for older people with chronic problems.

The
plans people purchase should be very clear about chronic care limits.
Do I want a plant that will pay out $20M over my life? Then I have to be
willing to pay for that. But Obamacare makes me buy maternity care
while I have no doctor and pay $15K + $6500 deductible before I get ANY
insured care at all. The main function of the insurer is to negotiate my
price down from the cash price (which is triple).

Meanwhile, we are importing TB patients and giving them disability and free everything.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2017 01:42 PM (BrMft)

Insurance should not cover chronic care at all... allow everyone to put money in HSAs to save for their own regular care. Insurance should be, and only works if, it is actually insuring against large unlikely losses NOT when it is used as some sort of prepaid account for normal, regular and completely foreseeable health care needs.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (FTXAT)

371 Stupid is usually the safe bet, but complicit and backstabbing could net you a trifecta.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (GX63o)

372 >>I'm telling you, they should make the deal then reneg when it comes to the next guy. Just flip off the Dems. It would cost them zero.

Why? Just tell Schumer to do what he wants. If he threatens a filibuster over the most qualified nominee in a long time then go nuclear. Won't cost them anything either.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (/tuJf)

373 363 361 I'm telling you, they should make the deal then reneg when it comes to the next guy. Just flip off the Dems. It would cost them zero.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:48 PM (39g3+)

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Just imagine what The New York Times will say...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 01:48 PM (ELUpj)

Oh noes! Not the sneering disapproval! Anything but the sneering disapproval!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (0mRoj)

374 367 Sorry, but I have to ask about your orthography, in particular the often capitalized pronouns. Is that a function of autocucumber?

Nope, just bad grammar...
Posted by: It's Me donna at March 23, 2017 01:49 PM (O2RFr)

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Well...I never...

*faints at the idea of bad grammar at the HQ*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (ELUpj)

375 GOP Congress: we'll repeal Obamacare, we'll repeal it, we wilL REPEAL the ACA (repeat for 6 years).

Jackstraw: I don't see this betrayal people keep talking about!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (39g3+)

376 Well,Lieberman was very left wing but he did seem to care about the security of the US at least.

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 01:51 PM (r/0kC)

377 Well there are 445 dicks in Congress. 93 Womyn.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2017 01:36 PM (jxbfJ)

Which side is Lindsey Graham counted on?
Posted by: Country Boy

Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:51 PM (eauMe)

378 I am here to do the people's business, and what's righ...... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Posted by: Sen. Thad Cochran at March 23, 2017 01:51 PM (DMUuz)

379
I'm telling you, they should make the deal then reneg when it comes to the next guy. Just flip off the Dems. It would cost them zero. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:48 PM (39g3+)

Not true.It will cost them invitations to the cool kids cocktail parties

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 23, 2017 01:51 PM (lKyWE)

380 369 He originally had a lot of support from the National Review crowd for being more conservative than Lowell Weicker which may have actually been true depending on the importance assigned to various issues. He has always been a 'favorite' of Conservatism, Inc.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (SsblQ)

===================

Lieberman was also from Connecticut, right?

So, maybe a personal connection with Buckley and the fact that you had to take what you could get from a senator from Connecticut.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 01:51 PM (ELUpj)

381 >>GOP Congress: we'll repeal Obamacare, we'll repeal it, we wilL REPEAL the ACA (repeat for 6 years).

And they are. Just because a few people here can't see what apparently the rest of the world sees doesn't make it false.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:52 PM (/tuJf)

382 Now we know it wasn't Obama or threats of being called racist keeping them on the uniparty plantation. The gate was wide open the whole time. The money, cultural acceptance and oh ya child slaves are just too tempting inside.

Starting think uniparty regrets passing meaningful civil rights legislation instead of just peacemealing it out over generations to grease dirty legislation and right races. Like Intel and clock speed bumps.

Posted by: Shiggz at March 23, 2017 01:52 PM (X8Fea)

383 Dave Chappelle's new Netflix special drawing ire of BLTQWERTY activists. Now I want to see it.

Posted by: josephistan at March 23, 2017 01:52 PM (7HtZB)

384 Tight races

Posted by: Shiggz at March 23, 2017 01:52 PM (X8Fea)

385 Never, ever underestimate the ability and/or willingness of Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: aelfheld at March 23, 2017 01:52 PM (IxDhF)

386 Republicans - men who are going to save America by making sure lottery winners aren't eligible for Obamacare.

Democrats - Saberhagen's Berserkers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 23, 2017 01:53 PM (/f1mm)

387 Insurance should not cover chronic care at all... allow everyone to put money in HSAs to save for their own regular care. Insurance should be, and only works if, it is actually insuring against large unlikely losses NOT when it is used as some sort of prepaid account for normal, regular and completely foreseeable health care needs.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (FTXAT)

That might work if medications for certain chronic conditions were subject to market forces in pricing. Immunosuppressive drugs, which keep people with things like RA from becoming crippled, are exorbitantly expensive at retail. Like $1500-$2000 a month expensive.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 01:53 PM (0mRoj)

388 383 Dave Chappelle's new Netflix special drawing ire of BLTQWERTY activists. Now I want to see it.
Posted by: josephistan at March 23, 2017 01:52 PM (7HtZB)

==================

Also...it has almost 5 stars.

Just a tad better than Amy Schumer.

Just a tad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 01:53 PM (ELUpj)

389 Personally, I think it's better to break their filibuster and embarass them than it is to change the rules.

for now.

break them, then change rules when they nominate ann coulter for next SCOTUS seat

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (55//3)

I would probably pay to see Democrats having to talk until they dropped and then be carried off the Senate floor. I concur... if they want a filibuster, make them actually filibuster and then break them.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:53 PM (FTXAT)

390 I haven't seen Chapelle's new special but my brother said it was funny. He tried to watch Amy Schumer and shut it off after a few minutes. Nothing funny, almost painful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:54 PM (39g3+)

391 Well,Lieberman was very left wing but he did seem to care about the security of the US at least.
Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 01:51 PM (r/0kC)

Your using 1960 definitions. He was "left wing" as it was defined back then. Now a days the democratic party is so "Left Wing" Stalin and Mao are to the right of them. Context Context

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 01:54 PM (KlI/a)

392 Not true.It will cost them invitations to the cool kids cocktail parties

Smart people would make their OWN cool parties. And then specifically NOT invite certain people. Make it real exclusive.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:54 PM (eauMe)

393 389
I would probably pay to see Democrats having to talk until they dropped and then be carried off the Senate floor. I concur... if they want a filibuster, make them actually filibuster and then break them.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:53 PM (FTXAT)

=================

Then replace RBG with Ted Cruz.

Then Kennedy with Mike Lee.

Then Breyer with Pryor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 01:55 PM (ELUpj)

394 389 Personally, I think it's better to break their filibuster and embarass them than it is to change the rules.

for now.

break them, then change rules when they nominate ann coulter for next SCOTUS seat

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (55//3)

I would probably pay to see Democrats having to talk until they dropped and then be carried off the Senate floor. I concur... if they want a filibuster, make them actually filibuster and then break them.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:53 PM (FTXAT)

Dude. Dianne Feinstein pissing herself. Do you really want to go there?

(No, really, I'm working now.)

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:55 PM (RD7QR)

395 I did not say retarded. Apparently he had a brain
tumor from the time he was 14 and was home schooled? And his father was
also taken into custody, so who knows how he was involved. Hey we Jews
have our nutcases also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup

My larger point is that the breathless charge of 'THE RUSSIANS HACKED THE ELECTION' is incredibly stupid in this day and age. Committed persons, who perhaps should be committed, can be exceptionally good at working with computers to fulfill their agenda.

G-d only knows what that agenda is.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 23, 2017 01:55 PM (ZFUt7)

396 "I'm not trying to be snotty here but how does this comport with Chucky's statement that the Dems are going to filibuster Gorsuch?"

It doesn't. But we needed something to kvetch about

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 01:55 PM (SIY7D)

397
And they are. Just because a few people here can't see what apparently the rest of the world sees doesn't make it false.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:52 PM (/tuJf)

The Freedom Caucus is determined to walk right into the same buzzsaw the Tea Party Caucus walked into.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 23, 2017 01:56 PM (lKyWE)

398 I concur... if they want a filibuster, make them actually filibuster and then break them.

Absolutely. I and I think every American on earth are heartily sick of the stupid "signal a filibuster" crap. If you believe in this, stand up and make the time, do it. Don't just say you will, DO IT.

Its like the asinine "signal an intentional walk" rule in MLB this year. I swear to Cthulhu I almost stopped watching baseball because of it. Keep it up with the idiot rule changes, MLB. Watch what happens.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:56 PM (39g3+)

399 At some point I think it would be helpful to come up with a shorthand name beyond RINO to more accurately describe the many, many "Republicans" that are actually died-in-the-wool, deep cover Democrats who have learned how to say the right things in their home states/districts in order to be elected and remain part of the big fancy DC Fraternity of Our Betters.

On one hand, you have the northeastern variety who know the Dem side is too crowded with candidates to offer any hope of winning, so they simply declare as Republicans and mouth mildly less socialistic policies to split the vote and defeat the loony left candidate. Their inner statist remains unchanged regardless of who they caucus with.

On the other hand, you have the red state variety who know how to manipulate their way through elections as the "reasonable" candidate in a field of much better conservatives. Once elected, they're free to throw all of that aside, make conservatives miserable, and most importantly, run other peoples' lives according to their inner Dem wiring.

Both types need to be effectively tagged if we're to ever have a hope of having them removed from our lives.

Posted by: Jaws at March 23, 2017 01:56 PM (oOw3I)

400 Honestly, Mitch, we won't call anyone of you a "racist" for months if you take the deal

Posted by: Chuck S. at March 23, 2017 01:56 PM (tfjpU)

401 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE

You know Lindsay WANTS to wear the bonnet.

Posted by: DaveA at March 23, 2017 01:57 PM (FhXTo)

402 Smart people would make their OWN cool parties. And then specifically NOT invite certain people. Make it real exclusive.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:54 PM (eauMe)
---------------------------
David Cole organized those in the past but not anymore.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 23, 2017 01:57 PM (SsblQ)

403 I'm not trying to be snotty here but how does this comport with Chucky's statement that the Dems are going to filibuster Gorsuch?

It fits in perfectly. If there's no threat, there's no leverage. If the Dems say they won't filibuster, where's the pressure to make a deal?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:57 PM (39g3+)

404 This is where I rant about people acting like a 60 vote threshold in the Senate to do anything is in the Constitution explicitly.

Spare me the Senate can make its own rules dodge on that. This de facto amendment of the Constitution to require a super majority for anything more important than honoring the immigrant single mothers who bake apple pies whilst rescuing differently abled animals drives me even more batty than usual.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 01:57 PM (mf5HN)

405 Correction: If they don't start doing whatever the fuck the people who put them there want, they will not be a majority past 2018.

The people who put them there being the voters... not the rent seeking companies that try to buy them.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:35 PM (FTXAT)

The people that put them there? Yeah, that would be the RNC (or DNC).

Think I'm exaggerating? Next election in your district, go try to run for your congress critter's seat. If you manage to get past the mountains of regulator crap designed solely to keep you out, are not completely blacked out by the media, and manage to get any level of meaningful support; the national party will descend on you like plague locusts toting out-of-state war chests.

If you still hang on, then you'll suddenly get 24/7 media coverage (driven by the RNC rolodex of friends) that reports breathlessly on your tax returns, email, and countless other things that accidentally got leaked to them from unknown sources.

Get past that and you'll suddenly find that you have a massive social media following for editing video clips that make you look like a lunatic, followed by interviews with lifelong neo-Nazis and KKK members expressing their full throated support.

Then, if by some remote change you actually get elected, you will arrive in DC to find that your office is a broom closet in the basement of some ghetto building, you are ineligible for a seat on any committee, your allocations for staff, etc. have been lost, and your privileges to participate in anything have been suspended pending receipt of your dues payments to the national party. Meanwhile, you will be spending all your time defending yourself from unsubstantiated rape allegations and income tax irregularities.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 01:58 PM (n3oGs)

406 That might work if medications for certain chronic conditions were subject to market forces in pricing. Immunosuppressive drugs, which keep people with things like RA from becoming crippled, are exorbitantly expensive at retail. Like $1500-$2000 a month expensive.
Posted by: Insomniac

Find where that same pill is sold at retail at it's cheapest price point and make it, by law, cost that here.

It's bullshit that the same pill made by Glaxo-Kline goes for $3 in Bucharest, and $150 in Peoria.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 01:58 PM (eauMe)

407
Insurance should not cover chronic care at all... allow everyone to put
money in HSAs to save for their own regular care. Insurance should be,
and only works if, it is actually insuring against large unlikely losses
NOT when it is used as some sort of prepaid account for normal, regular
and completely foreseeable health care needs.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (FTXAT)

That might work if medications for certain chronic conditions were
subject to market forces in pricing. Immunosuppressive drugs, which keep
people with things like RA from becoming crippled, are exorbitantly
expensive at retail. Like $1500-$2000 a month expensive.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 01:53 PM (0mRoj)

In the short term, that may be a good place for charity to kick in. In the long term, getting government out of the healthcare fields will lead to dropping prices as pharmaceutical companies adjust to the fact that the government cash cow is no longer there. It is a misuse of insurance though. Insurance != healthcare and treating it as if it is drives up costs for both.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:58 PM (FTXAT)

408 Let's Make A Deal with your host, Chucky Schumer!

You already have your Supreme Court nominee. You can keep him or would you like to trade for what's behind door #2?

Bet McConnell wore a turtle costume. I can just imagine him jumping up and down with a big grin on his face.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 23, 2017 01:58 PM (FtrY1)

409 LisaDaftari
23/03/17 14:05
BREAKING: British police say 39-year-old woman arrested on suspicion of "preparing a terror attack" following #Westminster attack
----
Have a feeling this one isn't asian either

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 23, 2017 01:59 PM (y3aQB)

410 >>The Freedom Caucus is determined to walk right into the same buzzsaw the Tea Party Caucus walked into.

Well many of them are the same people so I think they have a good idea what they are doing. What they are negotiating for right now is inserting language that takes away specific requirements for individual insurance plans rather than wait for Price to do it in Phase 2. I would think that would make people happy.

If they can get it done and past the Senate, fantastic.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:59 PM (/tuJf)

411 If you still hang on, then you'll suddenly get 24/7 media coverage (driven by the RNC rolodex of friends) that reports breathlessly on your tax returns, email, and countless other things that accidentally got leaked to them from unknown sources.
----------------------------------
Imagine explaining your blog comments.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 23, 2017 01:59 PM (SsblQ)

412 "where's the pressure to make a deal?"

It's a binary outcome. No deal. No prisoners.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 02:00 PM (SIY7D)

413 "I think our side gave way too much credit to Lieberman.

The guy basically has the same exact voting record as Chuck Schumer, I guess we were supposed to think he was super awesome because he supported the war in Iraq. Like John Kerry, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton did.

This was always a Kristol creation
Posted by: Maritime at March 23, 2017 01:45 PM (9cYRJ)"

--------

If he was just like Schumer then why did they throw him out of the party?

Posted by: Decaf at March 23, 2017 02:00 PM (Tm3Ti)

414 410 Well many of them are the same people so I think they have a good idea what they are doing. What they are negotiating for right now is inserting language that takes away specific requirements for individual insurance plans rather than wait for Price to do it in Phase 2. I would think that would make people happy.

If they can get it done and past the Senate, fantastic.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 01:59 PM (/tuJf)

=================

Their goal might be for the House to start over with the knowledge that Lee uncovered about the parliamentarian allowing regulation repeal through reconciliation.

Better to start again with that knowledge than to throw something into something else last second.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:00 PM (ELUpj)

415 WTF is this Tuesday Group crap??

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 23, 2017 01:41 PM (iNv61)

'See You Next Tuesday' Group?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 23, 2017 02:01 PM (8iiMU)

416 Its like the asinine "signal an intentional walk" rule in MLB this year. I swear to Cthulhu I almost stopped watching baseball because of it. Keep it up with the idiot rule changes, MLB. Watch what happens.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:56 PM (39g3+)

I stopped watching basketball when they stopped calling traveling. And don't people sometimes get hits off of intentional walk pitches? There's still skill required on both sides of the ball.

Anyway, hell yeah on forcing actual filibusters. Agree that you won't nuke the filibuster but that you'll strengthen it instead.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 23, 2017 02:01 PM (/f1mm)

417 PM May in England:

The Westminster attack was not Islamic Terrorism, it was a perversion of a great religion.

The Irish have got to be baffled. What did they do wrong? The English are defending and supporting the terrorists in their midst now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:01 PM (39g3+)

418 It fits in perfectly. If there's no threat, there's no leverage. If the Dems say they won't filibuster, where's the pressure to make a deal?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 01:57 PM (39g3+)

I may have overread the post to say that the deal was already made rather than just modified limited hanging out there. Because if it was already made, then this doesn't make sense but if not it does.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 02:01 PM (mf5HN)

419 415 'See You Next Tuesday' Group?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 23, 2017 02:01 PM (8iiMU)

=================

See = C
You = U
Next = N

...

Oh, my...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:01 PM (ELUpj)

420
The people that put them there? Yeah, that would be the RNC (or DNC).

Think I'm exaggerating? Next election in your district, go try to
run for your congress critter's seat. If you manage to get past the
mountains of regulator crap designed solely to keep you out, are not
completely blacked out by the media, and manage to get any level of
meaningful support; the national party will descend on you like plague
locusts toting out-of-state war chests.

If you still hang on, then you'll suddenly get 24/7 media coverage
(driven by the RNC rolodex of friends) that reports breathlessly on your
tax returns, email, and countless other things that accidentally got
leaked to them from unknown sources.

Get past that and you'll suddenly find that you have a massive
social media following for editing video clips that make you look like a
lunatic, followed by interviews with lifelong neo-Nazis and KKK members
expressing their full throated support.

Then, if by some remote change you actually get elected, you will
arrive in DC to find that your office is a broom closet in the basement
of some ghetto building, you are ineligible for a seat on any committee,
your allocations for staff, etc. have been lost, and your privileges to
participate in anything have been suspended pending receipt of your
dues payments to the national party. Meanwhile, you will be spending all
your time defending yourself from unsubstantiated rape allegations and
income tax irregularities.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 01:58 PM (n3oGs)

Dude... I helped get Dave Brat elected so you will never convince me that that windmill cannot be successfully tilted at:-P

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 02:02 PM (FTXAT)

421 Well...I never...

*faints at the idea of bad grammar at the HQ*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (ELUpj)

I am the Queen of Poor Grammar and the Empress of Typos; If Donna tries to steal my crown, she will face the possibility of getting stabbed as she hides behind the arras trying to evade my wrath (I know how to fence) or she may have the final letter in "dear" changed to a d and be remembered in perpetuity as one of my victims on the ASHQ forum.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:02 PM (fDdVG)

422 417 The lunatic PC formula that will be the death of the West.

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 02:02 PM (r/0kC)

423 And don't people sometimes get hits off of intentional walk pitches? There's still skill required on both sides of the ball.
-----------
Well, I struck out.

Posted by: Johnny Benchy at March 23, 2017 02:02 PM (SsblQ)

424 I'm not trying to be snotty here but how does this comport with Chucky's statement that the Dems are going to filibuster Gorsuch?

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (mf5HN)

Heck if I know - I'm still dealing with the betrayal that has not happened but probably will because of a talking point floated by a Democrat which means that it is absolutely what has happened in the future.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 02:02 PM (hLRSq)

425 I am the Queen of Poor Grammar and the Empress of Typos; If Donna tries to steal my crown, she will face the possibility of getting stabbed as she hides behind the arras trying to evade my wrath (I know how to fence) or she may have the final letter in "dear" changed to a d and be remembered in perpetuity as one of my victims on the ASHQ forum.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:02 PM (fDdVG)

You know how to fence? Great, I've got some hot merchandise I need to flip quick...

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:03 PM (0mRoj)

426
*faints at the idea of bad grammar at the HQ*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 01:50 PM (ELUpj)

I have it on good authority that she's going to make the proper changes in phase III.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 23, 2017 02:03 PM (/f1mm)

427 "In short, the Democrats are offering to take a Big Something from the Republicans in exchange for Nothing."

These are the same Republicans who looked at imploding, disastrous Obamacare, which has no GOP fingerprints on it, and instead of repealing it cleanly, decided to partially "fix" it in such a way that it will still implode disastrously, except this time, instead, the Republicans will get the blame.

Said it before and I'll say it again. The GOP read the old story of B'rer Rabbit and the Tar Baby, and thought to themselves, "Oh boy! An instruction manual!"

Posted by: torquewrench at March 23, 2017 02:03 PM (noWW6)

428 394
389 Personally, I think it's better to break their filibuster and embarass them than it is to change the rules.

for now.

break them, then change rules when they nominate ann coulter for next SCOTUS seat

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 23, 2017 01:44 PM (55//3)

I would probably pay to see Democrats having to talk until they
dropped and then be carried off the Senate floor. I concur... if they
want a filibuster, make them actually filibuster and then break them.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 01:53 PM (FTXAT)

Dude. Dianne Feinstein pissing herself. Do you really want to go there?

(No, really, I'm working now.)

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:55 PM (RD7QR)

To prove a point - yeah I would. And I'd make sure MSM was there to film it.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2017 02:04 PM (jxbfJ)

429 My larger point is that the breathless charge of 'THE RUSSIANS HACKED THE ELECTION' is incredibly stupid in this day and age. Committed persons, who perhaps should be committed, can be exceptionally good at working with computers to fulfill their agenda.

G-d only knows what that agenda is.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 23, 2017 01:55 PM (ZFUt7)

Yup. Agree

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 02:04 PM (KlI/a)

430 I almost stopped watching baseball
=========================

That's just crazy talk.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:04 PM (lwiT4)

431 Well there are 445 dicks in Congress. 93 Womyn.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

The split is between liberals and conservatives, not along gender lines. Liberal are sociopathic assholes, regardless of their gender. I've realized recently that if I think of them as animals making noises instead of rational human beings expressing thoughts, most of the puzzles of "why are liberals the way they are?" evaporate.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 23, 2017 02:04 PM (vRcUp)

432 The Republicans actually want the Democrats to keep the filibuster, because they actually don't want a conservative court.

Man, that is just depressing, LOL.

Posted by: Max Power at March 23, 2017 02:04 PM (q177U)

433 "I am the Queen of Poor Grammar and the Empress of Typos..."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:02 PM (fDdVG)

So it was you all alog.

Posted by: troyriser at March 23, 2017 02:05 PM (Fw5cQ)

434 The Irish have got to be baffled. What did they do wrong? The English are defending and supporting the terrorists in their midst now.

Wrong? They didn't cut off enough heads.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:05 PM (eauMe)

435 And don't people sometimes get hits off of intentional walk pitches? There's still skill required on both sides of the ball.

Every so often there's a wild pitch, as well. There's another reason they would go through the motions, though: it took time, and they would use it to give relievers just a little more time to get ready.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:05 PM (39g3+)

436 >>Their goal might be for the House to start over with the knowledge that Lee uncovered about the parliamentarian allowing regulation repeal through reconciliation.

But that is just from the conservative side. People seem to forget that not all Republicans vote uber conservative.

There are at least 4 Senators who have said they will not support a bill that does not address protecting Medicaid expansion, Portman, Capito, Gardner and Murkowski. I would also include Collins in this list as highly likely.

Note, only 1 of them is from the northeast and they all are from states that want to keep the Medicaid expansion part of Obamacare. So forget 60 votes, who hare you going to replace those 5 votes with on a straight repeal vote? Schumer?

Good luck with that.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:05 PM (/tuJf)

437 >>>GOP Congress: we'll repeal Obamacare, we'll repeal it, we wilL REPEAL the ACA (repeat for 6 years).
......

You're forgetting! The new and improved Obamacare Light has 3 phases.

Awww shucks! Congress is only allowed to vote on this stuff once per session. Them is the rules! Phase 2 will have to wait until after the mid term elections.

Phase 3? Well, you'd better give us the White House for 4 more years and a bigger majority!

*8 years later*

Yeah, so we tried to repeal and replace it all but, golly, theres this parliamentary rule about some stuff that... well, we just couldn't get it all done. Now, as I said in my fundraising email, if you must donate now because this could be our last chance!

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 02:06 PM (n3oGs)

438 That's just crazy talk.

If they use Joe Torre's little league extra innings rule or force the NL to use the designated hitter, I will bail on MLB. Enough is enough.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:06 PM (39g3+)

439 PANIC AND OUTRAGE NOW NOW NOW

Posted by: the panic and outrage guy at March 23, 2017 02:07 PM (KakCb)

440 434 The Irish have got to be baffled. What did they do wrong? The English are defending and supporting the terrorists in their midst now.

Wrong? They didn't cut off enough heads.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:05 PM (eauMe)

==================

The pope hadn't gone fully against the English Crown in hundreds of years. If the pope had started calling for the death of the English monarchy and insisting that the new Holy See would be London after it had been conquered...

No, that would have been considered warlike and England would have responded in kind.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:07 PM (ELUpj)

441 for an hour of backgammon with Kate Upton.

At least hold out for jumping jacks you RINO!11ty

Posted by: DaveA at March 23, 2017 02:07 PM (FhXTo)

442 or force the NL to use the designated hitter
==============================

Well see, that's not really real baseball.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:08 PM (lwiT4)

443 436 But that is just from the conservative side. People seem to forget that not all Republicans vote uber conservative.

There are at least 4 Senators who have said they will not support a bill that does not address protecting Medicaid expansion, Portman, Capito, Gardner and Murkowski. I would also include Collins in this list as highly likely.

Note, only 1 of them is from the northeast and they all are from states that want to keep the Medicaid expansion part of Obamacare. So forget 60 votes, who hare you going to replace those 5 votes with on a straight repeal vote? Schumer?

Good luck with that.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:05 PM (/tuJf)

====================

I propose:

Keep the Medicaid expansion, but require that states fund the expansion completely on their own.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:08 PM (ELUpj)

444 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at March 23, 2017 02:08 PM (GwIKd)

445 That's why I hat inter-league play. You have to play the faux-baseball people.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:09 PM (lwiT4)

446 an hour of backgammon with Kate Upton.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:09 PM (39g3+)

447 FWIW, I'm about this close to turning off college football since there's rarely any risk and only massive rewards for scooting out of the pocket and potentially making huge yardage without any fear of intentional grounding being called. Backed up 30 yards with nowhere to go? Oh, just throw it away somewhere. Right there in front of you is good, usually, so long as there's another player somewhere on the field ahead of you. Chances are good that you won't get a whistle.

Screw that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 23, 2017 02:09 PM (/f1mm)

448 That's just crazy talk.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:04 PM (lwiT4)

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-- Rogers Hornsby

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2017 02:09 PM (rF0hx)

449 I don't really hat it. Fenelon got to me.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:09 PM (lwiT4)

450 *hides under desk from Fenelon*

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 02:09 PM (mf5HN)

451 for an hour of backgammon with Kate Upton.

----

Look at Don Juan over here.

Don't brag, buddy. We know you only need 5 minutes.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 23, 2017 02:10 PM (KUaJL)

452 This really pisses me off that good morons are victims of the jihad:

Latest victim of London terror attack was Kurt Cochran, aged 54, who was a metalhead and guitarist who ran his own recording studio:

https://twitter.com/CityOutlaw/status/844948425070329858/photo/1

Posted by: zombie at March 23, 2017 02:10 PM (DQ4Fv)

453 It's amazing that the date of a fifth of the economy is coming down to how a bunch of Alaskan Native villages were able to cheat wholesale and elect that scrunt Murkowski..

Posted by: Jean at March 23, 2017 02:10 PM (H5T1o)

454 Well see, that's not really real baseball.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:08 PM (lwiT4)

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Neither is watching Bartolo Colon run the bases....

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 02:11 PM (8XRCm)

455 Old and Busted: Netflix and Chill

New and Hot: an hour of backgammon

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:11 PM (39g3+)

456 >>Keep the Medicaid expansion, but require that states fund the expansion completely on their own.

Sounds great. Will never happen. That ship sailed long ago.

What seems to be the compromise is block grants to the states to allow them to manage the program themselves but with caps based on people in those states who should be Medicaid eligible, old, sick, children, etc. and it will be up to the states to police their own Medicaid expansion and make sure they aren't brining on people who aren't eligible.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:11 PM (/tuJf)

457 Latest victim of London terror attack was Kurt Cochran, aged 54, who was a metalhead and guitarist who ran his own recording studio:

On vacation with his wife on their anniversary as I understand it. Killed by a man of unknown religion and ethnic background acting for unclear motivations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (39g3+)

458 Good luck with that.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:05 PM (/tuJf)

President Trump was never enthusiastic about a complete ObamaCare repeal and--from what I gathered from his primary speeches--likes the idea of a Medicare expansion. His strongest idea re healthcare was/is the elimination of state boundaries insofar as competition among insurance companies is concerned. Greater competition, lower premiums.

Anyway, the President let Ryan run with this particular ball. The problem is Ryan's lack of credibility with House conservatives. For some reason, conservatives think Ryan is a slippery little weasel willing to sell out the conservative base at the drop of a hat. How they got that idea is anyone's guess.

Posted by: troyriser at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (Fw5cQ)

459 You know the difference between Democrats and Republicans? Democrats fucking stick together and get their agenda pushed through come hell or high water.
Republicans don't. Because independant-minded or some other BS like that. And consequently get their ass handed to them, every single time.

Posted by: LGoPs at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (FoTxO)

460 You know how to fence? Great, I've got some hot merchandise I need to flip quick...

That does it!! You're not sin valor. You're mucho valor as a witty, quick thinking man-among other talents. Now we just have to find some way to get to do stand up comedy. ;^) You'd meet attractive women that way.

I don't fence well. I'm too good at illegal sales. I can fence with a sword- badly. I broke my leg while getting caught up in some ropes offstage doing a show where I played a woman in a traveling acting group-"Moon Over Buffalo".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (fDdVG)

461 Neither is watching Bartolo Colon run the bases....
Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 02:11 PM (8XRCm)

I loved the discussion about how that was like the sixth slowest home run jog ever but everyone was pretty sure he was running all out.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (mf5HN)

462 Yup. Agree

Posted by: Nevergiveup

In fact, think of the 12th Imam group who wish to bring chaos to the world so that their bumbling, stumbling, soaked to the bone hero returns. Think they're sitting quietly at their keyboards?

While we have recent college graduate tech 'experts' working for the government that require weeks to track the IP address of someone in another country who was daily making life miserable for thousands here in the USA.

*pulls hair out in frustration*

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (ZFUt7)

463 PANIC AND OUTRAGE NOW NOW NOW

Posted by: the panic and outrage guy at March 23, 2017 02:07 PM (KakCb)

New Shipments Are On the Way! Top manufacturers had to clear out inventory and You Benefit! We Pass The Cost Savings On To You! To-of-the-line curses, hexes, and maledictions - all 33% off! Mutterings, grumblings - 45% off! Malingering, goldbricking, ducking, and dodging - Free!

Only the next Three Days at The Outrage Outlet!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (hLRSq)

464 RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!

Posted by: WH Presstitute at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (57R5r)

465 458 President Trump was never enthusiastic about a complete ObamaCare repeal and--from what I gathered from his primary speeches--likes the idea of a Medicare expansion. His strongest idea re healthcare was/is the elimination of state boundaries insofar as competition among insurance companies is concerned. Greater competition, lower premiums.

Anyway, the President let Ryan run with this particular ball. The problem is Ryan's lack of credibility with House conservatives. For some reason, conservatives think Ryan is a slippery little weasel willing to sell out the conservative base at the drop of a hat. How they got that idea is anyone's guess.
Posted by: troyriser at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (Fw5cQ)

=====================

We may be stuck with it.

Perhaps work requirements and an improving economy will simply make it less important.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:13 PM (ELUpj)

466 Dude... I helped get Dave Brat elected so you will never convince me that that windmill cannot be successfully tilted at:-P
Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 02:02 PM (FTXAT)

Dave "We all want to get to YES on healthcare" Brat?
The guy that spent his entire life from 2005 on running for office?

Heh. Good job.

Granted, it was nice to see Cantor go but my point still stands. Unless you play the game for years and work your way up to "next in line" with the party... you will never hold any elected office.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 02:13 PM (n3oGs)

467 *hides under desk from Fenelon*

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr

How does lurking in your natural habitat equate to hiding?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 23, 2017 02:13 PM (gIRsn)

468 Nice!

Spicer is schooling the FCUK out of this hot-ass reporter for using the word 'associate'....LOLOL

"Using one subjective term after another with NO concrete proof behind it..."

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (8iiMU)

469 Next genius idea for baseball: home runs no longer have to run the bases, they're all walk-offs!

Posted by: MLB Commissioner at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (39g3+)

470 "Then replace RBG with Ted Cruz.

Then Kennedy with Mike Lee.

Then Breyer with Pryor."

---------

Why not Pryor first?

Posted by: Decaf at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (Tm3Ti)

471 Latest victim of London terror attack was Kurt Cochran, aged 54, who was a metalhead and guitarist who ran his own recording studio:

https://twitter.com/CityOutlaw/status/844948425070329858/photo/1
Posted by: zombie at March 23, 2017 02:10 PM (DQ4Fv)

I know there is an investigation going on but are the limeys going to what until the story dies down and then mumble out the ID of the attacker? Just so they won't offend anyone or any group?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (493sH)

472 grammie, did you see lovely Melania in her lovely red coat last weekend?

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (mf5HN)

473 Neither is watching Bartolo Colon run the bases....
Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 02:11 PM (8XRCm)

I loved the discussion about how that was like the sixth slowest home run jog ever but everyone was pretty sure he was running all out.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (mf5HN)

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Heh.

I was convinced he was stopping at third for a breather...

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (8XRCm)

474 Then it's up to the Turtle to show us some testicular fortitude.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 01:05 PM

I believe in his case that should be Testudinal fortitude.

Either way, he ain't got it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (p+Wdc)

475 Why does government have to be involved in our health insurance in the first place? Seriously? The government doesn't get involved in my car insurance or my homeowner's. Why don't insurance companies just offer a product and if I want it, I can buy it? I don't understand.

I don't think we've always had health insurance. I think when I was born, it was pay the doctor what you owe him. I've seen Rev's hospital bill from when he was born. It was $23.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (lwiT4)

476 470 "Then replace RBG with Ted Cruz.

Then Kennedy with Mike Lee.

Then Breyer with Pryor."

---------

Why not Pryor first?
Posted by: Decaf at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (Tm3Ti)

==================

Do you know who's going to die/retire first?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:15 PM (ELUpj)

477 We're also working on ways to get more instant replay 5-10 minute pauses in the game. You know, to speed the game up!

Posted by: MLB Commissioner at March 23, 2017 02:15 PM (39g3+)

478 I knew a big firm lawyer in DC several years ago who said, as a next act in his young career, he was considering moving to upstate NY and opening up his own practice with the real goal of eventually running for Congress as a "moderate." Of course, privately, he was actually a toxic, hard-core Progressive Cult Member in the mold of Alan Grayson. He instead ended up in the Obama Regime.

Still don't know if he would have run as a Democrat or a Republican.

Posted by: Self-driving car>>Safe space>>Adult coloring books at March 23, 2017 02:15 PM (qYCgM)

479 Why does government have to be involved in our health insurance in the first place? Seriously? The government doesn't get involved in my car insurance or my homeowner's. Why don't insurance companies just offer a product and if I want it, I can buy it? I don't understand.

I don't think we've always had health insurance. I think when I was born, it was pay the doctor what you owe him. I've seen Rev's hospital bill from when he was born. It was $23.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (lwiT4)

Thank FDR for that. Like most of what's wrong with America today, it started with the New Deal.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 23, 2017 02:15 PM (KUaJL)

480 How does lurking in your natural habitat equate to hiding?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 23, 2017 02:13 PM (gIRsn)

------

*steps away from Bander.

Im wearing a new jacket I dont want ruined.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (8XRCm)

481 Don't brag, buddy. We know you only need 5 minutes.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 23, 2017 02:10 PM (KUaJL)

Making Backgammon Great Again!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (hLRSq)

482 "Anyway, the President let Ryan run with this particular ball. The
problem is Ryan's lack of credibility with House conservatives."

In the case of Speaker Paul-osi, a well earned lack.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (noWW6)

483 43 436 But that is just from the conservative side. People seem to forget that not all Republicans vote uber conservative.

There are at least 4 Senators who have said they will not support a bill that does not address protecting Medicaid expansion, Portman, Capito, Gardner and Murkowski. I would also include Collins in this list as highly likely.

Note, only 1 of them is from the northeast and they all are from states that want to keep the Medicaid expansion part of Obamacare. So forget 60 votes, who hare you going to replace those 5 votes with on a straight repeal vote? Schumer?

Good luck with that.
Posted by: JackStraw

We two of the four, pick two, grant a capped Medicaid grant to their respective State. Be completely, nakedly crass about it. Show you can go low and play nasty. Oh, and primary the fuck out of them. Trump rallies, Cruz's dad, country music stars, Kid Rock, get the NRA to bash them, whatever

Posted by: Jean at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (H5T1o)

484 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (fDdVG)

Meant "not" too good at illegal sales. Donna will have a LONG way to go before she takes my crown ofr royalty at typos and poor grammar.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (fDdVG)

485 grammie, did you see lovely Melania in her lovely red coat last weekend?

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (mf5HN)
==================

I did NOT! What happened, Horde? There should have been a post about it.

Really - if we have a gun thread and a cooking thread and a garden thread and a pet thread and a chess thread and a book thread - why can't we have a fashion thread?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (lwiT4)

486 479 Why does government have to be involved in our health insurance in the first place? Seriously? The government doesn't get involved in my car insurance or my homeowner's. Why don't insurance companies just offer a product and if I want it, I can buy it? I don't understand.

I don't think we've always had health insurance. I think when I was born, it was pay the doctor what you owe him. I've seen Rev's hospital bill from when he was born. It was $23.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (lwiT4)

Thank FDR for that. Like most of what's wrong with America today, it started with the New Deal.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 23, 2017 02:15 PM (KUaJL)

====================

Maybe we should completely break the system and allow a cash only model to arise from the ashes on its own.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (ELUpj)

487 are the limeys going to what until the story dies down and then mumble out the ID of the attacker?

Police released a name this morning: Khalid Masood. IS claims responsibility, although they were likely to in any case.

http://tinyurl.com/lknj9e5

The Met has arrested six other people in the ring, which puts them up on our FBI who just lets people walk and opens the crime scene to reporters a day later.

Posted by: MLB Commissioner at March 23, 2017 02:17 PM (39g3+)

488 Why not Pryor first?
Posted by: Decaf at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (Tm3Ti)

==================

Do you know who's going to die/retire first?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Popping a brown paper bag loud enough should be enough to tip RBG over the edge.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:17 PM (eauMe)

489 Dave "We all want to get to YES on healthcare" Brat?

The guy that spent his entire life from 2005 on running for office?

Heh. Good job.

Granted, it was nice to see Cantor go but my point still stands.
Unless you play the game for years and work your way up to "next in
line" with the party... you will never hold any elected office.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 02:13 PM (n3oGs)

Have you explored his criteria for getting to yes? Cause it is conservatives getting everything they demand. And that guy spent his entire life getting degrees in theology and economics and then teaching. His only political experience before being elected was one unsuccessful run for the House of Delegates.

Look at his voting record... he is dancing with them what brought him to the dance.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 23, 2017 02:17 PM (FTXAT)

490 488
Popping a brown paper bag loud enough should be enough to tip RBG over the edge.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:17 PM (eauMe)

=================

"Phew, that was might scary. I think that I shall retire to my vacation home for the rest of my life."
-RBG

That's what you were thinking of, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:18 PM (ELUpj)

491 Really - if we have a gun thread and a cooking thread and a garden thread and a pet thread and a chess thread and a book thread - why can't we have a fashion thread?

Well, the resident homosexual coblogger left, so which of them do you trust with fashion sense? Oregonmuse? Mishumanist?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:18 PM (39g3+)

492 >>Anyway, the President let Ryan run with this particular ball. The problem is Ryan's lack of credibility with House conservatives. For some reason, conservatives think Ryan is a slippery little weasel willing to sell out the conservative base at the drop of a hat. How they got that idea is anyone's guess

Because that's what they ran on. A lot of Tea Party types ran as much against other Republicans in Congress as they did against Democrats. Loot at Dave Brat. His biggest opponent getting elected wasn't the Democrat Jack Trammell, it was Eric Cantor a member of the Republican leadership. His supporters, like a lot of the Tea Party Republicans in the House, think all Republicans accept fellow Tea Partiers are weasels so it's a feature not a bug to blame them and accuse them of heresy. And they all go out and have a beer together when the cameras are off.

A whole lot of kabuki going on with everything in DC.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:19 PM (/tuJf)

493 Police released a name this morning: Khalid Masood. IS claims responsibility, although they were likely to in any case.

http://tinyurl.com/lknj9e5

The Met has arrested six other people in the ring, which puts them up on our FBI who just lets people walk and opens the crime scene to reporters a day later.

Posted by: MLB Commissioner at March 23, 2017 02:17 PM (39g3+)

Thanks for the update. All I heard this morning was he was British born. Khalid Masood. hmmm...what could that be? Sounds very English like Bertie Wooster

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 02:19 PM (493sH)

494 491 Really - if we have a gun thread and a cooking thread and a garden thread and a pet thread and a chess thread and a book thread - why can't we have a fashion thread?

Well, the resident homosexual coblogger left, so which of them do you trust with fashion sense? Oregonmuse? Mishumanist?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:18 PM (39g3+)

====================

If someone wants to run it, reach out to Ace and one of the cobs (I used OM for the movie thread).

They might or might not be interested.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:19 PM (ELUpj)

495
I did NOT! What happened, Horde? There should have been a post about it.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (lwiT4)

Don't blame the guys. I doubt a single one was thinking about Melania in her clothes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 23, 2017 02:19 PM (/f1mm)

496 "Phew, that was might scary. I think that I shall retire to my vacation home for the rest of my life."
-RBG

That's what you were thinking of, right?

More along the lines of a '39 Ford vapor locking.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:20 PM (eauMe)

497 I know there is an investigation going on but are the limeys going to what until the story dies down and then mumble out the ID of the attacker? Just so they won't offend anyone or any group?
Posted by: TheQuietMan

The attacker was already IDed long ago:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3157037/ london-attack-terrorist-attacker-mi5-killed-westminster-michael-fallon/

Name? Khalid Masood. Surprise surprise. Well-known Muslim "activist."

Posted by: zombie at March 23, 2017 02:20 PM (DQ4Fv)

498 Well, the resident homosexual coblogger left, so which of them do you trust with fashion sense? Oregonmuse? Mishumanist?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:18 PM (39g3+)
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MisHum's fashion sense probably ranges from OshKosh overalls to Packer leggings. I could live with that.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:20 PM (lwiT4)

499 Well, the resident homosexual coblogger left, so which of them do you trust with fashion sense? Oregonmuse? Mishumanist?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:18 PM (39g3+)

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FASHION THREAD!!!

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at 12:38 PM

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 02:20 PM (8XRCm)

500 496
More along the lines of a '39 Ford vapor locking.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:20 PM (eauMe)

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Heh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:20 PM (ELUpj)

501 I thought The Nototius RBG threatened to pack her steamer trunk and shuffle off to NZ if Trump won. Why is she still here?

Posted by: Under Fire at March 23, 2017 02:20 PM (57R5r)

502 Don't blame the guys. I doubt a single one was thinking about Melania in her clothes.

In, out. In, out. In, out. In, out.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:21 PM (eauMe)

503 >>>PANIC AND OUTRAGE NOW NOW NOW
Posted by: the panic and outrage guy at March 23, 2017 02:07 PM (KakCb)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY PANICKING AND ARE FULL OF RAGE

Posted by: BEN ROSTHLINGER at March 23, 2017 02:21 PM (q177U)

504 Spicer is on a role.

Posted by: WisRich at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (hdpay)

505 An Illinois teacher was fired for reprimanding a student for not standing during the Pledge of Allegiance, according to a report.

http://nypost.com/2017/03/23/teacher-fired-for-bullying-student-who-didnt-stand-during-pledge/

The insane are running the asylum

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (KlI/a)

506 501 I thought The Nototius RBG threatened to pack her steamer trunk and shuffle off to NZ if Trump won. Why is she still here?
Posted by: Under Fire at March 23, 2017 02:20 PM (57R5r)

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Should have gotten that promise under oath.

Hell...maybe she could have been disbarred if she had broken it.

*looks off wistfully into a dimension that exists only in my head*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (ELUpj)

507 Spicer is on a role.

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*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (8XRCm)

508 If the NL adopts the DH, I would be okay with a provision that still requires Bartolo Colon to hit because that man going to the plate is pure poetry.

Actually I think he should be required to play every position.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (oZ6kz)

509 British born?See,your muslim travel bans don't work?
The Left

(There is a point there,muslims from anywhere are a threat,converts worse than those born to it)

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (r/0kC)

510 504 Spicer is on a role.
Posted by: WisRich at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (hdpay)

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He playing Lear or Hamlet today?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (ELUpj)

511 I did NOT! What happened, Horde? There should have been a post about it.

Really - if we have a gun thread and a cooking thread and a garden thread and a pet thread and a chess thread and a book thread - why can't we have a fashion thread?
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (lwiT4)

Here you go.

http://dailym.ai/2mwKkbK

See, see, how I am better?

Oh yes that's a Daily Mail link so I am not responsible for when anyone gets lost in the sidebar there.

Also holy crap is Barron getting tall. He turned 11 on Monday and he's nearly as tall as his dad already.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

512 468 Nice!

Spicer is schooling the FCUK out of this hot-ass reporter for using the word 'associate'....LOLOL

"Using one subjective term after another with NO concrete proof behind it..."

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (8iiMU)

Wait, you describe a reporter as "hot-ass" and didn't at least provide a link? Come on now.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 02:23 PM (RD7QR)

513 Really - if we have a gun thread and a cooking thread and a garden thread and a pet thread and a chess thread and a book thread - why can't we have a fashion thread?

Justin Ropers, Wrangler jeans, Hanes T-Shirt.
Ok. On to the gun thread!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:23 PM (eauMe)

514 Name? Khalid Masood. Surprise surprise. Well-known Muslim "activist."

Posted by: zombie at March 23, 2017 02:20 PM (DQ4Fv)

Now, not so active.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 02:23 PM (hLRSq)

515 486. Been paying out of pocket for tests, doc visits for the last 2 weeks. Gastro doc is out of network with my insurance. Since I only have 2 available insurers in SW OH I had to choose the best to get my GP and my preferred hospital network.
Come to find out I'm coming out ahead. In 2016 I had a cat scan that cost me $4000 because my deductible hadn't been met. The one I had Monday was $474.
Of course it doesn't count against my deductible.
Upcoming colonoscopy is $1200 and was $4500 through insurance in 2015.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 23, 2017 02:23 PM (N3JsI)

516 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (KlI/a)
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I thought the law was that you cannot force a child in school to say the Pledge of Allegiance. I'm not sure about making them stand though.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:24 PM (lwiT4)

517 Gosh, this must be a whole new WH press corp than we've had for the last 8 years. They're adversarial and asking "probing questions".

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2017 02:24 PM (Enq6K)

518 *hides under desk from Fenelon*

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr

I think you should hide in one of the drawers. You're small enough to fit, correct? ;^) Less chance of my finding you. Actually, I can't be throwing stones about height- even if I wanted to stone you...instead of stabbing you, I mean. I'm 5'4, and sorry., I've never seen you make typos or grammatical errors here. You're no threat to my rule here. You can be the Empress, just not the Empress of Typos and Poor Grammar.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:24 PM (fDdVG)

519 I don't fence well. I'm too good at illegal sales. I can fence with a sword- badly. I broke my leg while getting caught up in some ropes offstage doing a show where I played a woman in a traveling acting group-"Moon Over Buffalo".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:12 PM (fDdVG)

So, you're from the method school.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:24 PM (0mRoj)

520 Sib Hashian, the drummer for Boston, has passed away. Owner of one of the most epic White-Fro's of the 70's.

His daughter is Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's longtime girlfriend.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 23, 2017 02:24 PM (s/EUv)

521 Fashion thread, you mean the Lands End outlet link?

Posted by: Jean at March 23, 2017 02:24 PM (H5T1o)

522 Attempting to willow.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 23, 2017 02:24 PM (sEDyY)

523 And speaking of a gun thread, just received my Palmetto State Armory upper with free float stainless barrel.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:25 PM (eauMe)

524 So give the GOP the House, the Senate, the Executive, the majority of State Congresses, and the majority of Governors and they'll claim, "But SCOTUS!"

So, if given a majority on SCOTUS, they'll have to admit their DECADES of deception to the supermajority of the country that, yeah no, they actually aren't going to do what they said.

Based on what I've lived through, that's exactly what I expect. The Uniparty is in a ceaseless competition to screw over the public as cleverly as possible and to deny the formation of new, viable political parties.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 23, 2017 02:25 PM (1CroS)

525 British born?See,your muslim travel bans don't work?
The Left

(There is a point there,muslims from anywhere are a threat,converts worse than those born to it)

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (r/0kC)

I heard that this morning on the radio. So would you ban everyone from the UK?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 02:25 PM (493sH)

526 514
Name? Khalid Masood. Surprise surprise. Well-known Muslim "activist."

Posted by: zombie at March 23, 2017 02:20 PM (DQ4Fv)

Now, not so active.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 02:23 PM (hLRSq)

No kidding.

Posted by: 72 Virgins at March 23, 2017 02:25 PM (GX63o)

527 515 Been paying out of pocket for tests, doc visits for the last 2 weeks. Gastro doc is out of network with my insurance. Since I only have 2 available insurers in SW OH I had to choose the best to get my GP and my preferred hospital network.
Come to find out I'm coming out ahead. In 2016 I had a cat scan that cost me $4000 because my deductible hadn't been met. The one I had Monday was $474.
Of course it doesn't count against my deductible.
Upcoming colonoscopy is $1200 and was $4500 through insurance in 2015.
Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 23, 2017 02:23 PM (N3JsI)

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I just remember those stories about the network of doctors in Oklahoma who only take cash, and they seem to have a lot of work, people are saving a lot of money, and surrounding hospitals are driving down their own prices in response.

Competition in an open market...weird how that works you know?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:25 PM (ELUpj)

528 442 or force the NL to use the designated hitter
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Well see, that's not really real baseball.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:08 PM (lwiT4)

I didn't read the comments above, but this alone is worth civil war.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 02:26 PM (72PAC)

529 523 And speaking of a gun thread, just received my Palmetto State Armory upper with free float stainless barrel.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:25 PM (eauMe)

Good for you! And by good for you, I do not at all mean that I am seething with jealousy, not one little bit.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:26 PM (0mRoj)

530 Sib Hashian, the drummer for Boston, has passed away. Owner of one of the most epic White-Fro's of the 70's.

Then he was in the running with the kid on Room 222.
Yeah. Off my lawn people.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:26 PM (eauMe)

531 See, see, how I am better?

Oh yes that's a Daily Mail link so I am not responsible for when anyone gets lost in the sidebar there.

Also holy crap is Barron getting tall. He turned 11 on Monday and he's nearly as tall as his dad already.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 02:23 PM (mf5HN)
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Ohhh I like that. I like the longer cut in the back. I can't wear red well, but that is a very pretty coat. And yes, Barron is exceedingly tall for his age. I wonder if he feels uncomfortable in school.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:26 PM (lwiT4)

532 And they are. Just because a few people here can't see what apparently the rest of the world sees doesn't make it false.

Jack ... what you're doing to that chicken is absolutely scandalous. But I can't help but watch.

1/6/2016 ... the House and Senate passed HR 3762. Eight pages ... not this 120+ page HR 1628 dandy they're going with now. 52 of 54 GOP Senators voted for HR 3762. 239 of 242 GOP Reps voted for HR 3762 (4 NVs).

It was a reconciliation bill ... but proponents and opponents alike agreed it effectively nuked Obamacare. Paul Ryan called it repeal. Still does on www.speaker.gov.

Sandy Levin (D) said HR 3762 "guts ObamaCare". John Lewis (D) said "It is a deliberate, systematic attempt, not just to repeal, but to destroy Obamacare".

Mark Sanford (R) and Jim Jordan (R) both asked why HR 3762 wasn't put back on the floor in a National Review article on 3/10/17. That article, Is There a Doctor in the House, outlines the differences in the two bills. Check it out.

Or believe JackStraw ... that a new 120+ page bill is effectively the same as an eight page bill previously passed. And believe him when he says a new 120+ page bill was needed over an eight page bill passed with overwhelming GOP support.

You. Tell. Me.

Numerous

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 02:27 PM (/BTP8)

533 Yeah. Off my lawn people.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:26 PM (eauMe)

I was never on your lawn people. Pablo isn't my type anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:27 PM (0mRoj)

534 I'm not sure about making them stand though.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:24 PM (lwiT4)
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Only if also stripping in a mixed-sex environment.

Posted by: Undocumented at March 23, 2017 02:27 PM (SsblQ)

535 Just heard on radio news....Nunes said he was sorry for taking his info to press and WH? This is just how they reported it!

WTF???

Posted by: Pam at March 23, 2017 02:27 PM (cF0hS)

536 Khalid Masood, so Amish

Posted by: Jean at March 23, 2017 02:27 PM (H5T1o)

537 I just remember those stories about the network of doctors in Oklahoma who only take cash, and they seem to have a lot of work, people are saving a lot of money, and surrounding hospitals are driving down their own prices in response.

Competition in an open market...weird how that works you know?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:25 PM (ELUpj)

Didn't the government force them to shut down? Or am I thinking of a different doctor group that tried the no insurance thing?

The one I'm thinking of offered a monthly cash fee for unlimited visits and tests. Government laughed and said no.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 02:28 PM (72PAC)

538 536 Khalid Masood, so Amish
Posted by: Jean at March 23, 2017 02:27 PM (H5T1o)

Sounds Scandi. Must be one of those Lutherans from up North.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:28 PM (0mRoj)

539 Money is the lifeblood of politics. If you want the money from the lobbyists you have to dance to their tune. Whoever has the gold makes the rules. yadda, yadda.

Posted by: Passin' Thru Like a Kidney Stone at March 23, 2017 02:28 PM (g6yUI)

540 I thought the law was that you cannot force a child in school to say the Pledge of Allegiance. I'm not sure about making them stand though.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:24 PM (lwiT4)

The article says there are 7 drivers ed teachers in the school and the kids sign up for who they want. The teacher never forced him to stand, just said if he does not, he will not drive with him...seems fine to me. and the fat little shit should have stood anyway. He apparently is a trouble maker with other teachers also and is on record as hating America. Fuck the fat shit and his mom

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 02:28 PM (KlI/a)

541 Didn't the government force them to shut down? Or am I thinking of a different doctor group that tried the no insurance thing?

The one I'm thinking of offered a monthly cash fee for unlimited visits and tests. Government laughed and said no.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 02:28 PM (72PAC)

Concierge medicine. The government looks highly askance at it, and it is difficult to stay out of regulatory trouble if you have any Medicare patients.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:29 PM (0mRoj)

542 I heard that this morning on the radio. So would you ban everyone from the UK?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2017 02:25 PM (493sH)

Maybe go on a postal code basis. People from troublesome neighborhoods can't come here. Of course, then the jihadis would just get funding to move to better digs.

Posted by: josephistan at March 23, 2017 02:29 PM (7HtZB)

543 537 Didn't the government force them to shut down? Or am I thinking of a different doctor group that tried the no insurance thing?

The one I'm thinking of offered a monthly cash fee for unlimited visits and tests. Government laughed and said no.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 02:28 PM (72PAC)

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I think I heard a follow up on them a few months ago, and they were still running.

I could use the magical Internets to find out, but...nah.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:29 PM (ELUpj)

544 508 If the NL adopts the DH, I would be okay with a provision that still requires Bartolo Colon to hit because that man going to the plate is pure poetry.

Actually I think he should be required to play every position.
Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at March 23, 2017 02:22 PM (oZ6kz)

Someone once ran a simulation in one of the MLB video games with an entire league of nothing but Bartolo Colons.

Needless to say, the video and stats prove cloning needs to be a thing and we need to start with Big Sexy.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 02:29 PM (72PAC)

545 Khalid Masood
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Eternally lucky

Posted by: Undocumented at March 23, 2017 02:30 PM (SsblQ)

546
1/6/2016 ... the House and Senate passed HR 3762. Eight pages ...

Which was meaningless

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 23, 2017 02:30 PM (lKyWE)

547 I would like to be a concierge dentist

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 02:30 PM (KlI/a)

548 Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:24 PM (0mRoj)

Yes, the method of clumsiness. I didn't know the leg was broken until the next day. I just kept on performing. I'm the theatrical version of the guy from China or Korea who competed in Olympics years ago who broke his leg while doing and routine and finished on the ropes thingy. However, I had a foot cast after that and no longer could jump on the furniture on the set to fence.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:30 PM (fDdVG)

549 So, both the Weekly Standard and NRO have contributors putting out posts about how the deal described is dumb and Republicans would be idiots to take it.

I think we can bet that it won't happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:30 PM (ELUpj)

550 I was actually kind of impressed when they thought it was that radical cleric who did the deed. They never actually go out and commit the jihad, they sit around marrying 11 year olds and rolling in piles of cash while sending others out to die and kill. I had a little bit of respect for the guy putting his money where his mouth was.

Should have known it wasn't really him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:30 PM (39g3+)

551 Fashion thread, you mean the Lands End outlet link?

I'd go with Cabelas. That way if some get bored by waders, wading boots, and fishing vests they can talk about camo, snake boots, and tree stands*.

* accessories are too fashion!

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (gIRsn)

552 The South Koreans have raised the sunken ferry Sewol.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (hLRSq)

553 Dear God, I wouldn't make it to day 2 as a school teacher.

Posted by: Jean at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (H5T1o)

554 >>If the NL adopts the DH, I would be okay with a provision that still requires Bartolo Colon to hit because that man going to the plate is pure poetry.

The NL should never adopt the DH. It is the government subsidy of baseball.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (/tuJf)

555 I heard that this morning on the radio. So would you ban everyone from the UK?
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Why not? We DON'T HAVE to let ANY non-citizen in.
For any or no reason.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (eauMe)

556 I'm in a foul mood, so no reason why you shouldn't be, too.

The latest vomiting from the NYT: "There's A Smell of Treason In the Air"

http://tinyurl.com/knqt8s9

See you all tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (X6fMO)

557 541
Concierge medicine. The government looks highly askance at it, and it is difficult to stay out of regulatory trouble if you have any Medicare patients.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:29 PM (0mRoj)

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I think they said that they refused all insurance, including any kind of government funding.

Cash only, pretty much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (ELUpj)

558 Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:29 PM (0mRoj)

Interesting. Is it a common practice, or attempted practice?

The story I'm trying to remember is from a few years back, but I was under the impression it was a one off type of thing.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (72PAC)

559 I would like to be a concierge dentist
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2017 02:30 PM (KlI/a)

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That's kind of a targeted client demographic there aint it??? I mean . . . how many concierges are left in this country??

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 02:32 PM (8XRCm)

560 Ah,the hilarity of left wingers throwing the word treason around.

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2017 02:32 PM (r/0kC)

561
CNN: In court filings revealed today, a Hawaiian judge has provided guidelines to the Trump administration as to permissible Executive Orders. Such orders should fall under the category of ahkam: the forbidden (haram), the discouraged (makruh), the neutral (mubah), the recommended (mustahib), and the obligatory (wajib).

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 23, 2017 02:32 PM (ZFUt7)

562 Concierge medicine. The government looks highly
askance at it, and it is difficult to stay out of regulatory trouble if
you have any Medicare patients.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:29 PM (0mRoj)

Remember the TV show of the concierge doc in the Hamptons. Can't remember the name. Don't think it's still on TV.

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2017 02:32 PM (Enq6K)

563 Wait, you describe a reporter as "hot-ass" and didn't at least provide a link? Come on now.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 02:23 PM (RD7QR)

I didn't actually see her backside, but she was really cute.
However, she had tons of makeup on.So, if you woke up in bed with her the next morning, it's a crapshoot.....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 23, 2017 02:32 PM (8iiMU)

564 There are nine innings and nine players. Make them rotate through all the defensive positions. Bartolo now playing the five, sort of.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 23, 2017 02:32 PM (YJI0Q)

565 Ohhh I like that. I like the longer cut in the back. I can't wear red well, but that is a very pretty coat. And yes, Barron is exceedingly tall for his age. I wonder if he feels uncomfortable in school.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:26 PM (lwiT4)

That's the same designer that did the coat she wore to the prayer service before inauguration.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 02:32 PM (mf5HN)

566 Also, I saw that Bander, don't think I didn't.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 23, 2017 02:32 PM (mf5HN)

567 Okay, so I've been trying to identify the a-hole reporter who is so condescending with every gotcha question and I finally figured it out.

Peter Alexander - NBC News.

Figures. Unbiased my ass.

He reminds me of one of the CIA goon's in "No way Out".

Posted by: WisRich at March 23, 2017 02:33 PM (hdpay)

568 The NL should never adopt the DH. It is the government subsidy of baseball.

On this, we agree.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:33 PM (39g3+)

569 1/6/2016 ... the House and Senate passed HR 3762. Eight pages ...

Which was meaningless

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 23, 2017 02:30 PM (lKyWE)

Passed Because it was meaningless!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2017 02:33 PM (gwPgz)

570 "just remember those stories about the network of doctors in Oklahoma who only take cash"

There's a no-insurance surgical practice in Las Vegas which has an excellent reputation.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 23, 2017 02:34 PM (noWW6)

571 The NL should never adopt the DH. It is the government subsidy of baseball.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (/tuJf)
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Can I get an Amen ?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:34 PM (lwiT4)

572 I was never on your lawn people. Pablo isn't my type anyway.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:27 PM (0mRoj)

I thought he was asking you to assassinate them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:34 PM (fDdVG)

573 However, she had tons of makeup on.So, if you woke up in bed with her the next morning, it's a crapshoot.....

Unless you're stewed you can tell up close what the makeup is covering and "contouring" Unless its club lighting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:34 PM (39g3+)

574 552 The South Koreans have raised the sunken ferry Sewol.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (hLRSq)

Is that the one the Norks sank?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 02:35 PM (RD7QR)

575 This kind of arrangement is EXACTLY what the Republicans will do. It fits their MO so perfectly I'd be surprised if they don't. They will ALWAYS snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, and not just because they are stupid or lazy.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at March 23, 2017 02:35 PM (i6shs)

576 When are the filing deadlines in Hawaii for the next election, sounds like a judge wants to run for office.

Posted by: Jean at March 23, 2017 02:35 PM (H5T1o)

577 "Really - if we have a gun thread and a cooking thread and a garden thread and a pet thread and a chess thread and a book thread - why can't we have a fashion thread?
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (lwiT4)"

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That is a splendid idea. Grammie, you could run it, you have a sense of style and color. Lots of women commenters on this blog who have a lot to say about fashion as well as politics. In fact the two go hand in hand, I get a kick out of watching who's wearing what when they are interviewed. Sadly for men it simply means what color tie are they wearing this time.

Posted by: Decaf at March 23, 2017 02:36 PM (Tm3Ti)

578 Can I get an Amen ?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:34 PM (lwiT4)

Amen!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, still loving the Cubs, even though they are WINNERS! at March 23, 2017 02:36 PM (8iiMU)

579 Yes, the method of clumsiness. I didn't know the leg was broken until the next day. I just kept on performing. I'm the theatrical version of the guy from China or Korea who competed in Olympics years ago who broke his leg while doing and routine and finished on the ropes thingy. However, I had a foot cast after that and no longer could jump on the furniture on the set to fence.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:30 PM (fDdVG)

Ouch.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:36 PM (0mRoj)

580 Passed Because it was meaningless!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2017 02:33 PM (gwPgz)

Exactly.

So we're now supposed to believe this new 120+ page love letter is substantively the same as that eight page dog and pony show ?

Do you and me have "stupid" tatted on our foreheads ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 02:36 PM (/BTP8)

581 >>>"There's A Smell of Treason In the Air"

Hahahah!! Got to keep that Kool Aide flowing!

Posted by: Max Power at March 23, 2017 02:36 PM (q177U)

582 Is that the one the Norks sank?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 23, 2017 02:35 PM (RD7QR)

No. It capsized and sank and a lot of school kids died while the crew saved themselves.

You're thinking of the patrol about that the North Koreans sank. Different thing altogether.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2017 02:37 PM (hLRSq)

583 @ grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:14 PM (lwiT4)

Wow. All excellent questions. We'll take it in parts...

>>>Why does government have to be involved in our health insurance in the first place? Seriously?
....

Simple. It's tax and diverts 1/3 of the economy through DC. What? You thought this was about healthcare or insurance? Nah. The only thing Obamacare (or RyanCare) accomplish is a giant cash influx into DC with a few semi-plausible sugar pills to make people thank them for a slew of massive new taxes and vast cost increases.

>>>The government doesn't get involved in my car insurance or my homeowner's.
....

The state and federal insurance regulatory agencies just emailed me to say, "Hahahaha".

>>>Why don't insurance companies just offer a product and if I want it, I can buy it? I don't understand.

You can't have nice things because Uncle Sam wants his cut. Really, it is that simple. Beside, you should be embarrassed if you have nice things. You only have nice things because you exploit people. Now pay your Fed/ State/ Local taxes, fees, surcharges, penalties, etc. or we will seize all your stuff and put you in jail you racist! You thought that was your property? You didn't build that! Your money? I don't see your name on it, now do I? US legal tender. It doesn't belong to you.

>>> I don't think we've always had health insurance. I think when I was born, it was pay the doctor what you owe him. I've seen Rev's hospital bill from when he was born. It was $23.

Exactly. Everyone keeps blaming "big hospitals" or "big pharma", etc. for rising costs. Bullcrap.

Let's take "big hospitals". Know why we have "big hospitals"? Because the federal government mandated a the creation of a monopoly through requiring "Proof of Need" certificates. You are not legally allowed to hang a shingle, treat patients, and charge them a reasonable fee.

It's really much simpler than that, however. Whatever gets subsidized will cost exponentially more. There is nothing so subsidized as healthcare. Now regulate it and it will add exponentially more cost. Nothing is so regulated as healthcare. People talk about healthcare being so much cheaper if you pay cash or- even better- pay cash in another country. Of course! You're cutting out the 10 gazillion middle men (mostly government) who are demanding their "fair share" of 1/3 of the economy!

Now, back in the day, someone couldn't pay $23 to birth a child. Fine. They had options. 1. Don't get knocked up. That's free. 2. Buy insurance that covers pregnancy and pay $3 a month before you get knocked up. (The math people will see that $3 x 9 months didn't save money. That's because insurance is nothing more than a savings account. Why? Because that is the law. Go see your state/ fed regulators for details). 3. Charity. People were too embarrassed to seek charity (too bad their sense of embarrassment didn't extend to keeping their pants on). So, to save on embarrassment of asking friends, family, and/ or their church for $23 to pop a kid out... they asked the government. The government, seeing that they could buy votes for the low, low price of $23 was more than happy to oblige.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 02:37 PM (n3oGs)

584 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (ELUpj)

I think the ObamaCare fix for concierge medicine is to deny prescription privileges to them, because #MoniedPrivilege!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2017 02:37 PM (gwPgz)

585 Whoops; If I use the word assassinate in regard to "offing" lawn people am I going to get a visit from the CIA or FBI or the Division of Civil Rights if the lawn people happen to be Latino? I cannot talk to them now. I'm too tired.

*****PS,Dear NSA. It was a joke. JOKE

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2017 02:37 PM (fDdVG)

586 "There's A Smell of Treason In the Air"

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Says the party that gave Iran 2.5 billion in Swiss Francs..... cash..... on a fricking pallet.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 23, 2017 02:38 PM (8XRCm)

587 I think they said that they refused all insurance, including any kind of government funding.

Cash only, pretty much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (ELUpj)
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That's how most veterinary practices are run. You would be amazed how closely related canine medicine (not feline) mimics human medicine. Surgeries, dental treatment, medications, procedures such as X-rays and scans. All on a cash basis. That's a big reason why your splenectomy costs $30k and your dog's splenectomy costs $2k.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:38 PM (lwiT4)

588 Interesting. Is it a common practice, or attempted practice?

The story I'm trying to remember is from a few years back, but I was under the impression it was a one off type of thing.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (72PAC)

I'm honestly not as in touch with that sector of the industry as others. I do know there's a group in Florida that's weathered the storm, but I imagine they have very carefully tailored what they do to keep the feds off their backs.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:38 PM (0mRoj)

589 Unless you're stewed you can tell up close what the makeup is covering and "contouring" Unless its club lighting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:34 PM (39g3+)

Well, it *was* the Press Room.

So, Club Lighting.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, still loving the Cubs, even though they are WINNERS! at March 23, 2017 02:38 PM (8iiMU)

590 Excuse my Canuck ignorance here but shouldn't the Republicans be the ones make proposals i.e. telling the Democrats they've lost his one. Every single senator that has challenged Gorsuch has come across as pathetic. Filibuster and we'll nuke and the nuclear option will be the Republican approach going forward.
Play intelligently and we won't automatically go nuclear the next time around.
There was bad grammar in this but I'm too lazy to correct it.

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2017 02:38 PM (hJrjt)

591 Democrats have the cover of the press. They can do whatever they want to and the press will have their backs and lie about how awesome it all is. Republicans want to have the same.

Voters? Clowns to be tricked.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 23, 2017 02:39 PM (MZcWR)

592 Do you and me have "stupid" tatted on our foreheads ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 02:36 PM (/BTP

Not me! I have "!diputS" tatooed on mine!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2017 02:40 PM (gwPgz)

593 570 "just remember those stories about the network of doctors in Oklahoma who only take cash"

There's a no-insurance surgical practice in Las Vegas which has an excellent reputation.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 23, 2017 02:34 PM (noWW6)

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Oh, the free market....

"It's the devil!"
-Bernie Sanders, in transit from how 2 to house 3

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 23, 2017 02:41 PM (ELUpj)

594 Really - if we have a gun thread and a cooking thread and a garden thread and a pet thread and a chess thread and a book thread - why can't we have a fashion thread?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM (lwiT4)

Wellllll... I would do it but my idea of fashion runs along the lines of minimal cloth and lots of elbow exposure

I therefore recuse myself and offer up AtC as the guest cob to do a fashion thread.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 23, 2017 02:41 PM (AOrEZ)

595 >>Play intelligently and we won't automatically go nuclear the next time around.

There seems to be zero evidence that this is not exactly what is happening save for one hard hitting article in the very conservative Politico. Because they always look out for Republicans best interests.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:42 PM (/tuJf)

596 This kind of arrangement is EXACTLY what the Republicans will do. It fits their MO so perfectly I'd be surprised if they don't. They will ALWAYS snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, and not just because they are stupid or lazy.

Well exactly. Whether its stupidity, incompetence, or deliberate betrayal, this is exactly the kind of thing certain GOPe types just love to do. Which is why its even being discussed here. Its a ridiculous, stupid idea only a GOPe would consider.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:42 PM (39g3+)

597 Kdbabear is the fashion thread !

Posted by: Jean at March 23, 2017 02:43 PM (H5T1o)

598 So has the muslim mayor of London, who said last year that terrorist attacks are just a part of life in the city, chimed in on yesterday's attack?

Posted by: josephistan at March 23, 2017 02:43 PM (7HtZB)

599 Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2017 02:38 PM (hJrjt)

Nothing personal, but I'm thinking even a Canuck should be able to understand greed, cowardice, laziness, and corruption!

I admit, on the scale practiced in the US Congress, it is hard to conceive!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2017 02:43 PM (gwPgz)

600 Its a ridiculous, stupid idea only a GOPe would consider.

You watch your mouth, pal.

Posted by: Bob Corker at March 23, 2017 02:43 PM (/BTP8)

601 Really - if we have a gun thread and a cooking
thread and a garden thread and a pet thread and a chess thread and a
book thread - why can't we have a fashion thread?
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:16 PM

Fashion was discussed in the last gun thread. It's not like it never gets talked about.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 23, 2017 02:44 PM (DMUuz)

602 I therefore recuse myself and offer up AtC as the guest cob to do a fashion thread.

Sure, but how many posts can you really do about stompy boots and dead squirrels?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:45 PM (39g3+)

603 556 I'm in a foul mood, so no reason why you shouldn't be, too.

The latest vomiting from the NYT: "There's A Smell of Treason In the Air"

http://tinyurl.com/knqt8s9

See you all tomorrow.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (X6fMO)

How can Democrats utter the word "treason" without bursting into flames?

Posted by: rickl at March 23, 2017 02:45 PM (zoehZ)

604 Fashion was discussed in the last gun thread. It's not like it never gets talked about.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 23, 2017 02:44 PM (DMUuz)
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Let me guess. Thermal underwear from Gander Mountain.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:45 PM (lwiT4)

605 Fashion was discussed in the last gun thread. It's not like it never gets talked about.

And I pitched in with a "Michelle from Chicago" sock earlier in the week.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 02:46 PM (/BTP8)

606 One more comment before I return to lurking: wouldn't it be amusing to watch the likes of Franken and Feinstein attempt to grill Ted Cruz should he be the nominee for the next open position on the Supreme Court?

Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2017 02:46 PM (hJrjt)

607 Fashion was discussed in the last gun thread. It's not like it never gets talked about.

Sure, and guns are discussed in... well pretty much every thread.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:46 PM (39g3+)

608 Thermal underwear from Gander Mountain.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:45 PM (lwiT4)

Camouflage thermal underwear!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2017 02:47 PM (gwPgz)

609 Can I get an Amen ?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:34 PM (lwiT4)

Amen!!

I'm too lazy right now though to scroll up and see what I'm amen'ing to.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 23, 2017 02:47 PM (Jcg9Q)

610 606 One more comment before I return to lurking: wouldn't it be amusing to watch the likes of Franken and Feinstein attempt to grill Ted Cruz should he be the nominee for the next open position on the Supreme Court?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2017 02:46 PM (hJrjt)

I would pay to see that.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 02:47 PM (72PAC)

611 Sure, and guns are discussed in... well pretty much every thread.

Not true ... Ace only brings up his guns once a week.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 02:48 PM (/BTP8)

612 Thermal underwear from Gander Mountain.

All Carhartt, all day.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:48 PM (39g3+)

613 555 I heard that this morning on the radio. So would you ban everyone from the UK?
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Why not? We DON'T HAVE to let ANY non-citizen in.
For any or no reason.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2017 02:31 PM (eauMe)

More so, with the amount of refugees and immigrants the UK has... you are not necessarily getting people of English Descent...

Want to let the Mayor of London in? I don't....

Posted by: Don Q. at March 23, 2017 02:48 PM (NgKpN)

614 609 Can I get an Amen ?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:34 PM (lwiT4)

Amen!!

I'm too lazy right now though to scroll up and see what I'm amen'ing to.
Posted by: Country Boy at March 23, 2017 02:47 PM (Jcg9Q)

The perilous nature of Sloth, one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:48 PM (0mRoj)

615 *Old and Busted:*
Patient: Doc, can you give me something for my headache? I don't have any cash on me but I've got an extra chicken.

Hungry Doc: Ok.

*New Hotness:*

Patient: Doc, I have a headache. Can I buy something from you?

Doc: No! You can't pay me! I will give you a headache pill but you need to pay the insurance company, all 1 million of their employees, the regulatory agencies and all 2 million of their employees, oh wait, we have all these new departments under Obamacare and their hundreds of thousands of government union employees with pensions and 280 PTO days per year,...

Your Tylenol will be $9,685.46 please. Or you can pay $1500 mo. plus your $20 copay to my receptionist over there, who is required to have 6 different certifications and annual CE training to perform the same function as the $7.25 chick at McDonalds.

Posted by: Damiano at March 23, 2017 02:48 PM (n3oGs)

616 I wish I knew the secret to wearing the heels Melania has on.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM (lwiT4)

617 BREAKING: AP sources: State Department to recommend approval of Keystone XL pipeline, clearing way for presidential permit.

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM (y3aQB)

618 616 I wish I knew the secret to wearing the heels Melania has on.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM (lwiT4)

Steal her feet.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM (0mRoj)

619 How can Democrats utter the word "treason" without bursting into flames?
Posted by: rickl at March 23, 2017 02:45 PM (zoehZ)

No one ever said, I could not quote scripture...

Posted by: Satan... at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM (NgKpN)

620 "The Irish have got to be baffled. What did they do wrong?"

The Brits (and everyone else) should say a silent, preferably Christian, prayer that the Muzzies don't have 1/100th the skill and imagination of the Provo IRA.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM (SIY7D)

621 >>Steal her feet.

And the legs that go with them.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:50 PM (/tuJf)

622 No one ever said, I could not quote scripture...

Posted by: Satan... at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM (NgKpN)

You're actually quite good at it, I will say.

Posted by: Country Boy at March 23, 2017 02:51 PM (Jcg9Q)

623 Steal her feet.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM (0mRoj)
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Interesting suggestion.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:51 PM (lwiT4)

624 The Brits (and everyone else) should say a silent, preferably Christian, prayer that the Muzzies don't have 1/100th the skill and imagination of the Provo IRA.

Yeah Muslims seem kind of lazy compared to the Irish. Or just dumb.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2017 02:51 PM (39g3+)

625 616 I wish I knew the secret to wearing the heels Melania has on.

Pretty sure a dude invented high heels. No way any sane chic would wish those things on themselves.

A dude probably also invented the thigh high boot. And that dude was a damn genius.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 02:51 PM (/BTP8)

626 617 BREAKING: AP sources: State Department to recommend approval of Keystone XL pipeline, clearing way for presidential permit.
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM (y3aQB)

Ah, the winning still feels good.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 02:51 PM (72PAC)

627 The Republicans actually want the Democrats to keep the filibuster, because they actually don't want a conservative court. Or to have the power to enact any of their legislative measures that they claim they want to enact, but in fact do not want to enact. They like pretending they want conservative reforms, while loving the fact that the Democrats can block those reforms.

Then they get to have their cake and eat it too -- they perpetually run on issues they don't want a resolution on, while being able to explain away their failure by saying "Because Democrats" or "Because Political Reality."
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Uniparty. Its their interests vs our interests. They think they can keep getting elected by playing the same show endlessly.

Not going to happen.

Posted by: simplemind at March 23, 2017 02:51 PM (xVRrG)

628 Let me guess. Thermal underwear from Gander Mountain.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:45 PM

No, Gander Mountain is going bankrupt, and closing stores. Besides, thermal underware is in the 'intimates' department, and The Horde would not discuss unmentionables like that. Sheesh.

It was a general fashionista discussion. It was cogently concluded, too.

As Casey "The Old Perfessor" Stengel (PBUH) said, "You could look it up."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 23, 2017 02:52 PM (DMUuz)

629 And the legs that go with them.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:50 PM (/tuJf)
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I actually have pretty good legs. Although they don't go on for miles and miles like Melania's.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:52 PM (lwiT4)

630 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 23, 2017 02:52 PM (72PAC)

631 "Patient: Doc, I have a headache. Can I buy something from you?"

Doc: Sure! As long as you don't actually want something that provides effective pain relief. If I gave you something strong enough to actually work, I might lose my license for "overprescribing".

Posted by: torquewrench at March 23, 2017 02:52 PM (noWW6)

632 623 Steal her feet.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM (0mRoj)
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Interesting suggestion.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:51 PM (lwiT4)

Muldoon can help you. He's a doctor, so he knows all about foot-lopping.

And nood ace.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:53 PM (0mRoj)

633 A dude probably also invented the thigh high boot. And that dude was a damn genius.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 23, 2017 02:51 PM (/BTP

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I have several pair of those. I love them. And fortunately, living in Wisconsin, I can wear them 9 months of the year.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:54 PM (lwiT4)

634 >>I actually have pretty good legs. Although they don't go on for miles and miles like Melania's.

I don't mind commenting on Ivanka's legs because, well because. As far as yours I will just say I'm sure they are lovely.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2017 02:54 PM (/tuJf)

635 Muldoon can help you. He's a doctor, so he knows all about foot-lopping.

And nood ace.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 23, 2017 02:53 PM (0mRoj)
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I thought he did tonsils. I'll check. And thanks, on both counts!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:55 PM (lwiT4)

636 I'm late to the party, I'm sure. But I think the Republicans should agree to this.

And then nuke the filibuster on the next nominee, regardless.

First of all, the Democrats are a bunch of backstabbing weasels and a deal with them is of course no deal at all.

Secondly, the Republicans have NEVER filibustered a supreme court judge and don't have the spine to do it now, anyway, so I'm not seeing any downside whatsoever to nuking it.

Posted by: makatta at March 23, 2017 02:56 PM (Y7Qzg)

637 I'm with Redbanzai: a Democrat filibuster--a real one--could be as entertaining as it was useful. How do they divvy up the time? An hour each? Imagine Diane F. trying to stand up that long. Chuck Schumer's charm might not hold up. Patrick Leahy might actually be able to finish a sentence.

Or they might want to feature their young bench, like Elizabeth Warren. I understand she can get pretty shrill.
Or Kamala Harris, who might demonstrate she's not as bright as billed. Or Corey Booker, featuring T-bone.

Let everybody get a good look. Meanwhile behind the scenes, days and days to work on the healthcare bill with no one to press them.

They might even be forced to work through April. Teehee.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at March 23, 2017 02:59 PM (Kr0FZ)

638 I have some questions, from a policy perspective. Is this:

A: "pull my finger" stupid, or
B: "got your nose!" stupid?

Advice appreciated.

Posted by: Scott P at March 23, 2017 02:59 PM (ihvlp)

639 "I wish I knew the secret to wearing the heels Melania has on.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2017 02:49 PM"

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I was able to do it when I was her age, now I'm down to kitten heels.

It's really sad that such beautiful pictures are only available in a foreign publication. The most beautiful and stylish First Lady in our lifetimes and the US press is making her invisible because she is married to their version of Beelzebub, they would probably have no problems with the real thing.

Posted by: Decaf at March 23, 2017 02:59 PM (Tm3Ti)

640 Nobody is that stupid. Not even the Repulbican leadership.

GOPe: Hold My Beer...

Posted by: Fox at March 23, 2017 03:09 PM (DVC2D)

641 Neither "this stupid" or "almost this stupid'. The correct answer is "At Least This Stupid".

Posted by: timactual at March 23, 2017 03:30 PM (sS4nt)

642 31 I'd take the deal, then drill those old Democrats in the ass.

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Exactly

Posted by: Who me? I had me fingers crossed at March 23, 2017 08:07 PM (+ldAm)

643 Ace: "[Some Republicans] like pretending they want conservative reforms, while loving the fact that the Democrats can block those reforms."

A lot of Democrats also pretend. They pretend that they don't want to abolish honest elections, abolish gender, abolish borders, curb free speech, abolish citizenship, gut the military, empty the jails, seize private property and subvert the Constitution.

It's telling that both Parties feel the need to pretend to be more conservative than they are.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 23, 2017 08:32 PM (Ndje9)

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