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The War on Free Speech: College Now Warning Students Not to Record Their Instructors During Their Embarrassing Political Tirades
They want to indoctrinate in secret, and will actually punish you for exposing their ideas to sunlight.
That's not a sign of a legitimate "intellectual" or moral movement.Shortly after the election, Orange Coast Community College professor Olga Perez Stable Cox launched into a tirade during her class on human sexuality, calling Donald Trump a "white supremacist" and Mike Pence "one of the most anti-gay humans in this country." While it's unlikely she was the only professor to make such statements, she did have the misfortune of being recorded by a student who was less than appreciative of her behavior. OCCC claims they've launched an investigation. However, their target seems to be students, and not the professor. They are posting signs warning students not to record instructors without permission....The signs ominously state: "Video and/or audio recording without instructor permission is prohibited." Meanwhile, college "bias response teams" have a strange tendency to only persecute conservative-tilting speech. And yes, it's time to start seriously debating defunding the colleges that won't defend free speech. The government should not be in the business of siphoning taxpayer money into political institutions. If these schools wish to act like private political clubs, that's fine, but they can do so on their own dime.
What avenues do we really have, apart from state-level initiatives? The two that seem worth pondering are congressional action and "dear colleague" letters. Congressional action would take the form of a bill that would emphasize the importance of intellectual freedom at colleges and universities that receive public money. This would be a very hard bill to craft, especially in light of the skill with which the academic left typically inverts the purpose of legislation... A "dear colleague" letter would emulate the form of Barack Obama’s action through the Office for Civil Rights and the Department of Justice, in which some thread of jurisdictional authority is traced to existing law to "advise" colleges and universities how that law would be interpreted. This was one of the ways Obama grabbed power for himself with direct congressional approval. Like many others, I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. But it may be the only short-term tool President Trump has to cut funding for colleges and universities that suppress free speech... That’s the lay of the land. In the meantime, the "Resistance" to President Trump is likely to take us further and further into censorship, suppression of free inquiry, public disorder, and the hollowing out of faithful public purpose in higher education.On the plus side, it will take us closer to National Divorce, which will benefit all parties. I don't want revolution, I don't want "resistance," I don't want violence. I don't want to make others live under my heel (despite the fact they dearly wish to make me live under theirs). I just want Done. I want Gone. I want Goodbye.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: hambone at February 08, 2017 07:18 PM (g6yUI)
Posted by: NativeNH at February 08, 2017 07:19 PM (dtRY5)
Posted by: hambone at February 08, 2017 07:19 PM (g6yUI)
Posted by: sunny-dee at February 08, 2017 07:19 PM (QAOZh)
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 08, 2017 07:19 PM (hrlSe)
LOL. "You're not allowed to take notes in class!"
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 08, 2017 07:20 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 08, 2017 07:21 PM (le7jz)
Posted by: Ed Anger at February 08, 2017 07:22 PM (TJx8f)
Posted by: R. DUKE at February 08, 2017 07:22 PM (ONH2e)
No civil right for students ---> No government-backed loans for your institution!
Posted by: gastorgrab at February 08, 2017 07:22 PM (u6OFe)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 08, 2017 07:23 PM (le7jz)
298 rickl, Levin was griping about some proposed environmental council instead of a capitalism council, then hating cabinet picks for treasury and something else as crony capitalists, and slamming Ivanka and her husband as hard core leftists who had undue influence on policy. And he hates TIllerson because the environmental council was based on some initiative from ExxonMobil. And this was all in the course of about 90 seconds.
Posted by: sunny-dee at February 08, 2017 07:23 PM (QAOZh)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 08, 2017 07:21 PM (le7jz)
Hear, hear!
Should have been done yesterday.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 08, 2017 07:23 PM (zc3Db)
I get being objective, and I even get that Trump is and will be disappointing in a lot of ways. But accusing him of being backed by Soros?
Posted by: sunny-dee at February 08, 2017 07:24 PM (QAOZh)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 07:25 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: rabidfox at February 08, 2017 07:26 PM (EW9tX)
The crazy people of the left, embedded in academia and beaurocracies, will never change.
They will not stop.
They will never leave you alone.
They want Control.
They are your enemy.
Posted by: hambone at February 08, 2017 07:26 PM (g6yUI)
How about goading them into breaking multiple laws in a fashion that even the MSM can't ignore and prosecuting them to the fullest?
Could work twofold; in one way by curbing the universities excess in the short/medium term, and another in giving the Dem-Cong a reason to divorce unis from the DotGov teat.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2017 07:27 PM (4YGWz)
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Oh come on, that has to be a fake name!
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 08, 2017 07:27 PM (7qAYi)
Levin is a nasty crank and always has been. I can't believe anyone actually listens to that angry dick.
Nobody is conservative or perfect enough for him save for him and even that might not be enough.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 07:27 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at February 08, 2017 07:28 PM (ismre)
I get being objective, and I even get that Trump is and will be disappointing in a lot of ways. But accusing him of being backed by Soros?
Posted by: sunny-dee at February 08, 2017 07:24 PM (QAOZh)
I have been a Mark Levin fan since forever. I have also not been listening since about the inauguration. But please tell me he didn't say that.
Because if he did, then as painful as it is to say this because Levin is a stalwart and a giant in so many ways, I will have to abandon him.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:28 PM (mbhDw)
see what I did there?
Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at February 08, 2017 07:28 PM (eClek)
Every class room should be monitored with a live stream camera and recorded for evidence, safety, and above all to get these shitheads and catch them in the act.
Libs are always screaming about body cams on cops, well we need to scream we want body cams on students. For their safety.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 08, 2017 07:28 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2017 07:28 PM (4YGWz)
Meh, I'd pull his nomination and put somebody on Scotus who doesn't believe a thousand low level judges can veto executive orders. Full Scotus decisions, sure, but not any other.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 08, 2017 07:28 PM (P/kVC)
But public funded prof's going on tirades about Trump ... Verboten.
yeah, we are well past "If these schools wish to act like private political clubs", as of about 1975. And it goes for the primary educators as well, which will face "school choice" and performance standards that allow firing of the sluggards that plod through 30 years and retire on $80K plus open ended other benefits.
New sheriff ... not same as the old boss. We hope.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 08, 2017 07:29 PM (RWmbm)
Posted by: rabidfox at February 08, 2017 07:29 PM (EW9tX)
Posted by: eleven at February 08, 2017 07:29 PM (qUNWi)
We'll accept conservative refugees though.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:29 PM (pCUr3)
Posted by: rabidfox at February 08, 2017 07:26 PM (EW9tX)
George Soros is funding a now violent insurrection against PDT. To say that the latter is in the pocket of the former is Glenn Beck-level divorced from reality.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:29 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 08, 2017 07:29 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: IanDeal at February 08, 2017 07:30 PM (teGBX)
After taking Auckland, the White Army is proceeding south to Reykjavik.
Impeach the Top Nazi Dog now!!!
Wait .... are you recording me? Shoot that honky and burn his tape! #LoveTrumpsHate
Posted by: Professor Maxine Waters at February 08, 2017 07:30 PM (mt8X9)
We'll accept conservative refugees though.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:29 PM (pCUr3)
"Cool."
- - Snake Pliskin
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:30 PM (mbhDw)
Levin is a nasty crank and always has been. I can't believe anyone actually listens to that angry dick.
Nobody is conservative or perfect enough for him save for him and even that might not be enough.
Posted by: JackStraw
He's a harsh corrective to Midol Medved.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2017 07:30 PM (4YGWz)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 08, 2017 07:30 PM (SWcg7)
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:30 PM (Enq6K)
What about Trump? I'm told he's from New York.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 07:31 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Delurked, and Then He Was Gone at February 08, 2017 07:31 PM (uz/Pv)
Posted by: Delurked, and Then He Was Gone at February 08, 2017 07:31 PM (uz/Pv)
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2017 07:31 PM (oXKWd)
Bold, red text is just as good as a photograph.
* participation sticker *
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2017 07:28 PM (4YGWz)
The red indicates a link to an article. Thank you and please retrieve your footwear maintenance storage unit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:31 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: IanDeal at February 08, 2017 07:31 PM (teGBX)
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at February 08, 2017 07:31 PM (J8/9G)
Posted by: Usntakim at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (hMqvx)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (RWmbm)
Meanwhile, with Sessions confirmed (EAT IT, DemocRATS.), it is too much to hope for perp walks from Lois Lerner and company?
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (5Hluh)
Posted by: Ed Anger at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (TJx8f)
Posted by: Ed Anger at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (TJx8f)
The Democrats are becoming more overtly Marxist now. Is there anything about the word 'Marxist' that inspires dreams of peaceful coexistence, whether or not we're sharing the same borders? A seceded California, for example, would be an ongoing strategic blunder ripe for foreign exploitation.
At some point we'll probably have to fight them, and I don't mean on the floor of the Senate. This might even be inevitable. I hope not. Americans are never so good at war as when we're warring with each other.
Posted by: troyriser at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (ZkXe+)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (tHwdc)
My schadenboner is so big and hard not even Brian Dennehy could star in its biopic.
Posted by: davidt at February 08, 2017 07:33 PM (XoldI)
Secondly - I agree with de-funding universities - but I did a post a while back on this - I think the way to do it is to take all Fed funding away from universities that spend over a certain amount on teachers, and classes, in non traditional subjects. Want to have a lot of puppeteer classes and Social Justice Warrior 101? great - you wil not get accredited as a real university by th Fed and wil get no Fed $$$ ( I say anything over 10 percent of the budget spent on teachers and classes that are not traditional (Math, science - real science - not climate science) will lose all Federal funding - the goal is to fund actual learning- not "Social Justice Warroirig."
I think this is the way to go.
I have a plan for the people who are conspiring to deprive us all of our constitutional rights of free speech and associatiation. Will cover that in a separate post - and I hope our new AG is listening when I do ( hint hint)
Posted by: Publius Redux at February 08, 2017 07:33 PM (UOr6C)
Meanwhile, with Sessions confirmed (EAT IT, DemocRATS.), it is too much to hope for perp walks from Lois Lerner and company?
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (5Hluh)
How about Eric Holder? That would incite a race war.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:33 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 08, 2017 07:33 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (RWmbm)
My schadenboner has now developed its own event horizon from the extreme density.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 08, 2017 07:34 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 07:34 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:34 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Delurked at February 08, 2017 07:35 PM (uz/Pv)
Posted by: George Costanza at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (oXKWd)
The logic fails when you consider that the Anglophone Canadian provinces, the Bahamas, Bermuda, and Barbados are not states. There are already several nations not too far away which speak English, are mostly peopled by our relatives, and doing their own thing politically.
Posted by: mel gibson at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: rabidfox at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (EW9tX)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (6FqZa)
I just want Done. I want Gone. I want Goodbye.
I don't want to play Will To Power. But since we are? Game on and play to win.
Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (dEQP3)
To kill a snake, you have to strike at its head. Ergo, RICO Soros.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (mbhDw)
There's so much winning, we're exporting it to the UK now.
Posted by: logprof at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (GsAUU)
We program our children for hours per day, that the only way to get ahead, and to NOT fail, is to listen to what their teachers say.
Teachers, being human, use this to put forth their own agendas.
Take 12 years of this programing, and now move those students into a Social Justice controlled College... and you get our current mess.
Posted by: Don Q. at February 08, 2017 07:37 PM (qf6WZ)
especially at a college where you are paying for the content
Posted by: newrouter at February 08, 2017 07:37 PM (wDHUC)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 07:37 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: rabidfox at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (EW9tX)
The Dems hate Christianity anyway, except when they so helpfully point out that Jesus was a socialist.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:37 PM (mbhDw)
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Yeah, he's not moo-ham-id.....
Posted by: lindafell little rally hitler's schadenbutton! at February 08, 2017 07:37 PM (JNDQi)
Posted by: Toad-O at February 08, 2017 07:38 PM (cct0t)
There's so much winning, we're exporting it to the UK now.
Posted by: logprof at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (GsAUU)
And evidently Muzzies are exporting themselves to Canada, too.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:38 PM (mbhDw)
I get being objective, and I even get that Trump is and will be disappointing in a lot of ways. But accusing him of being backed by Soros?
Posted by: sunny-dee at February 08, 2017 07:24 PM (QAOZh)
I replied in the last thread. Nobody told me there was a nood.
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 07:38 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: lindafell little rally hitler's schadenbutton! at February 08, 2017 07:38 PM (JNDQi)
There must be some legal way to defund institutions that blatantly violate guaranteed freedoms. No one is entitled to free money forever. It's way past time they received a reminder.
Posted by: iwuzhere at February 08, 2017 07:38 PM (GRNzr)
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:39 PM (Enq6K)
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He would be a Refugee President. The irony alone would stroke out the left.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:39 PM (pCUr3)
The cox is not stable. The cox is not stable.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 07:39 PM (2w7OO)
Posted by: mel gibson at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (6FqZa)
What are you talking about? I'm referring to states in the Union, these United States, our country. I don't care if Canadian provinces join the Martian Federation or if Barbados is sucked through a dimensional portal.
Posted by: troyriser at February 08, 2017 07:39 PM (ZkXe+)
The real Brexit vote happened well before Trump was elected. I think they would say they exported it to us.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 07:39 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: DaveA at February 08, 2017 07:39 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 07:39 PM (wD9H7)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at February 08, 2017 07:40 PM (kP16F)
Posted by: rabidfox at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (EW9tX)
The Dems hate Christianity anyway, except when they so helpfully point out that Jesus was a socialist.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:37 PM (mbhDw)
Well... duh.... Son of God... Separation of Church and State...
Hello....
Posted by: Duh Left at February 08, 2017 07:40 PM (qf6WZ)
Isn't that what John the Baptist thought he was doing?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 08, 2017 07:40 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Publius Redux
No court will allow defunding under a courses or studies qualification scheme. Smacks of too much of an ideological test, a test, btw, that could be turned around with a Dem administration to ensure all STEM is thoroughly infected by Leftist ideology.
Nearest weapon at hand:
Graduation rates -> post-grad employment and salary -> loan repayment rates.
Tie all of the federal funding to the colleges with the highest metrics in all. For dah children.
The Feds already dismantled several 'career' colleges for waste/fraud/abuse reasons.
Nearest weapon at hand.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2017 07:40 PM (4YGWz)
I'm currently taking a college algebra course ASU's edX extension (and some science courses through extensions from other universities) that I struggled with in traditional classrooms. Now I'm flying through a semester's worth of difficult algebra in less than 3 months even though it's entirely self-paced, and I would only have to pay if I chose to have the class certified or I wanted college credits...and I would only have to pay that *after* I finish the course with a passing grade. (I might get it certified if I can get the money) And even then, it's still only a fraction of the cost of a traditional class where you have to pay up-front. ($100/credit is practically pennies compared to even our affordable community college)
What this essentially means is that students who can't afford college and/or need remedial courses have options other than going into ridiculous amounts of debt from artificially-inflated tuition and still take the courses from big-name universities all over the world. Students are only limited by their personal drive and discipline.
It's a beautiful free-market solution which will only end up helping students, and those universities who have extensions will be forced to dial back on the worthless SJW Studies courses when the cost exceeds what they would bring in. My brother and I concluded that we're seeing a massive shift in education where the academic-industrial complex is in its decline. Poor SJWs...they spent all that time taking over the universities, only for those universities to slowly become obsolete.
Posted by: Tharsis (formerly Saber Alter) at February 08, 2017 07:40 PM (YZ7Go)
U.C. Berkeley is, in functional reality, two separate schools.
School #1, which we'll call the STEM half (STEM = science/technology/engineering/mathematics) is almost completely NOT POLITICAL and engages in completely valid and respectable world-class research and teaching.
School #2, which we'll call the SJW half (SJW = Social Justice Warriors) is all the "liberal arts" and other touchy-feely departments which are 100% totally taken over by modern-day communists and which are Bullshit Factories totally consumed by leftist politics and which corrode the national and global intellectual discourse with irrational hate-filled propaganda and brain-addled nonsense.
The problem? BOTH THESE SCHOOLS OCCUPY THE SAME CAMPUS and in fact SHARE THE SAME NAME.
Even worse, Cal's worldwide reputation rests almost entirely on the achievements of its STEM half, which is truly respectable and outstanding -- while the SJW half coasts on and parasitizes the gravitas earned by the STEM half.
But the SJW half gets most of the headlines and takes up most of the public's imagination.
But this is unfair to the STEM half (which, actually, is about 70% of the school, not just "half"), which DESERVES its grant dollars and which does good work. (About 5% of the STEM school is politicized, but we can live with that.)
When Trump said he would withhold federal funds from Cal due to the riot, he would be PUNISHING THE GOOD GUYS for the crimes of the commies.
If anything, the only thing to blame the STEM half fopr is that THEY LET THE SJWs SPEAK FOR THEM by endlessly hogging the spotlight.
On the ground, on campus, most STEM types (well over half of whom are Asian, btw) either hate the SJWs or (mostly) don't pay them the slightest attention. But the SJWs ruin the overall school's reputation, and the STEMs let them get away with it.
What needs to happen is the STEMs need to stand up and fight back and re-seize control of their own reputations.
Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2017 07:40 PM (jBuUi)
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Yep, I do believe the cheese has slid off the cracker.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:40 PM (pCUr3)
Posted by: 80's music fan at February 08, 2017 07:40 PM (PHcLa)
especially at a college where you are paying for the content
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There might be a state law. This is in California, and California has a law requiring the consent of both parties for things like recording phone conversations. It's possible that something like this would be covered as well.
But I really don't know.
Posted by: junior at February 08, 2017 07:40 PM (nsZ+m)
Any Dims voting for Sessions?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 07:39 PM (wD9H7)
Manchin.
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (KP5rU)
Taxation Without Representation.
Posted by: pookysgirl at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (ar2KI)
Posted by: Toad-O at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (cct0t)
There must be some legal way to defund institutions that blatantly violate guaranteed freedoms. No one is entitled to free money forever. It's way past time they received a reminder.
Posted by: iwuzhere at February 08, 2017 07:38 PM (GRNzr)
The irony is we do not seek to be masters over anyone. We simply seek to live and let live in a civil society with ordered liberty and the rule of a just and stable law. That said, our society is structured in a Judeo-Christian tradition, meaning we will tolerate you without having to accept you, and concomitantly not accepting your wanting to overthrow our society as punishment for some perceived wrongdoing.
Preserve the union and RESTORE America as founded.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (mbhDw)
"Excuse me?" I said.
"Religion. You all must be mythologists!" At this point he was quite pleased with himself.
Loudly I said "And you are a community college professor. Let me guess, couldn't make it at Harvard?"
His smug grin disappeared immediately, and he turned and scurried - actually scurried, it was this short-stepped little walk-run - out to the parking lot.
At that point it was I who was quite pleased with myself.
Posted by: me at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (G1bqy)
Posted by: troyriser at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (ZkXe+) fnord (ZkXe+)
*Both* sides of the "national divorce" thing remind me of 19th Century Utopianists, who thought they could separate themselves from human stupidity or evil by moving their bodies.
I can't even begin to list the problems with this, but, I mean, it didn't work, let's start with that.
I don't think we have an alternative but to do the very hard and messy work of clawing back to a properly limited and representative system that can defend itself against constant attempts to co-opt it for various ends.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: rabidfox at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (EW9tX)
Posted by: DaveA at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (8J/Te)
Any Dims voting for Sessions?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 07:39 PM (wD9H7)
Manchin.
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (Enq6K)
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But he got 52 votes. So who is the RINO fucker that didn't vote?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (wD9H7)
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That probably fits a bit better, given who we're talking about.
Posted by: junior at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (nsZ+m)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (39g3+)
No debate. Just do it. Cut off all public funds let the bastards suffer
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 07:42 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at February 08, 2017 07:40 PM (kP16F)
"You speak-a my language."
- - Mohammed
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:42 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (wD9H7)
That RINO fucker would be Sessions.
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:42 PM (Enq6K)
Meanwhile, with Sessions confirmed (EAT IT, DemocRATS.), it is too much to hope for perp walks from Lois Lerner and company?
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at February 08, 2017 07:32 PM (5Hluh)
Yup....I want to see SOMEONE perp walked. 8 years of a criminal syndicate running the country there has to be one out there they can charge with something.
Eric Holder would be a great start.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 08, 2017 07:42 PM (5VlCp)
Nobody. Sessions didn't vote for himself.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 07:42 PM (/tuJf)
violence. I don't want to make others live under my heel (despite the
fact they dearly wish to make me live under theirs).
Because of who they are, you have to make that choice. They won't let you go your own way.
Until they have been thoroughly subdued, they will always seek to enslave you.
Posted by: Grad School Fool at February 08, 2017 07:43 PM (swEzU)
Posted by: Aviator at February 08, 2017 07:43 PM (/Nite)
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2017 07:43 PM (Frvrc)
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Uh.....Sessions.....don't think he can vote for himself.
Posted by: lindafell little rally hitler's schadenbutton! at February 08, 2017 07:43 PM (JNDQi)
Eric Holder would be a great start.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 08, 2017 07:42 PM (5VlCp)
I said that upthread. Great minds, etc.
The race war that will gin up will be quite a sight.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:43 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: junior at February 08, 2017 07:43 PM (nsZ+m)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (wD9H7)
That RINO fucker would be Sessions.
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:42 PM (Enq6K)
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LOL! OK that makes sense. But why couldn't he vote for himself? I would have. And if anyone whined, I'd tell them to go fuck off.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 07:43 PM (wD9H7)
Thanks for the virtue-signalling, assholes.
No more of my money for you.
Posted by: logprof at February 08, 2017 07:44 PM (GsAUU)
- - Mohammed
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:42 PM (mbhDw)
He just smiled and gave me a Vegemite sandwich....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 08, 2017 07:45 PM (5VlCp)
Yep. It's a deluded dangerous idea, if you're serious about it. If you're not serious, it's something else.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 07:45 PM (SIY7D)
Posted by: davidt at February 08, 2017 07:45 PM (XoldI)
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 07:34 PM (Om16U)
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I'd think it might be okay to prohibit in private universities colleges, but not so in public ones ... but honestly don't know.
Posted by: ShainS at February 08, 2017 07:45 PM (mt8X9)
Posted by: Unstable Cox at February 08, 2017 07:46 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Toad-O at February 08, 2017 07:46 PM (cct0t)
Posted by: Crazywalt at February 08, 2017 07:46 PM (b8uNi)
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Only democratic senators are allowed to vote for themselves.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:46 PM (pCUr3)
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 08, 2017 07:46 PM (Gv7El)
Not if you claim you need it for notes, because : snowflake
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2017 07:46 PM (oXKWd)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 07:41 PM (wD9H7)
That RINO fucker would be Sessions.
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:42 PM (Enq6K)
Now we have a RINO as Attorney General? Great. Just frickin' great.
/s
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 07:46 PM (sdi6R)
I'll try again:
New England was founded by a totally different sort of Englishman than the rest of the country. The whites of South Carolina literally have more in common with those still in Barbados than they have with some seventh-generation Hahhvard legacy.
It's all in "Albion's Seed", several other books.
This is one big reason the US started out as a confederated alliance of states, under those Articles that don't get mentioned a lot. The Constitution centralised the Union as far as it physically could. And still here we are pondering secession.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 08, 2017 07:47 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 07:47 PM (2w7OO)
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 07:47 PM (Sfs6o)
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If said body movement was done via pole dancing by the female utopianists, I'd be down with it.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:47 PM (pCUr3)
Posted by: iwuzhere at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (GRNzr)
I noticed professors shutting it down out of the blue in 2008.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (a94gW)
Ace, the thing of it is, the Left will never leave us alone, even if we do have a two-state solution. It's in their nature to control us and or get even for their failure.
All you are doing is creating, essentially, one giant Palestinian territory.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (oXKWd)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: rabidfox at February 08, 2017 07:26 PM (EW9tX)
I gave Mornay double his lands in Scotland, matching estates in England. Lochlan turned for... for much less.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: 2009Refugee at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (JyFLk)
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (sdi6R)
If Trump rebrands the R party to be more inclusive and less Country Club, and MSM loses influence, then we can quickly become 55%/45% and then 60%/40%, which makes all the difference.
Just win, baby!
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (SIY7D)
Fox News just reporting that Nieman Marcus, Nordstrum, TJ Maxx,
Marshalls, Belk, and Jet.com banning selling anything by Ivanka Trump.
Thanks for the virtue-signalling, assholes.
No more of my money for you.
Posted by: logprof at February 08, 2017 07:44 PM (GsAUU)
G-Damnit TJ Maxx!!!! Just G-Damnit!
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:47 PM (pCUr3) fnord (pCUr3)
Yeah, that sounds great, but they're vegetarians who believe soap is bad for you.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: rabidfox at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (EW9tX)
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Been reading Bret Baier's book on Eisenhower ("Three Days In January"), and there was a line in there from someone joking that JFK faced such opposition in the Congress, he wouldn't be able to get the Ten Commandments passed by them.
I immediately thought that, today, Dem's would seriously filibuster that for sure ...
Posted by: ShainS at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (mt8X9)
Meh, I'd pull his nomination and put somebody on Scotus who doesn't believe a thousand low level judges can veto executive orders. Full Scotus decisions, sure, but not any other.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 08, 2017 07:28 PM (P/kVC)
Could you imagine the libs' conniption fit over that?. In an instant, they'd be defending Gorsuch, demanding that his confirmation go forward with up/down vote in the senate...
Posted by: Average Guy at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (LMcFk)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (kP16F)
Sessions abstained from voting for himself
51 R + Manchin = 52
Posted by: John Winger at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (h99GH)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (wD9H7)
So OCCC is admitting that their faculty are just performance artists?
Posted by: logprof at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (GsAUU)
A lot more Scots and Irish, not a lot of Englishmen at all, really. I heard a Scottish pastor note that he felt more at home in the South than he did anywhere else in the USA, that the accent sounded familiar.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Toad-O at February 08, 2017 07:50 PM (cct0t)
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (oXKWd)
Johnny Wadd, Ron Jeremy Hardest (Softest?) Hit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:50 PM (mbhDw)
I thought you had? Or am I just remembering an earlier comment on ace?
But yeah, I went to UCSC, and I noticed that Berzerkely's STEM students never had time to waste with the virtue-signalling. It was the worthless SJW "schools" demonstrating how much fluff their "educations" actually were.
Unfortunately, the STEM side really does need to put their collective foot down for their (well-earned) grant money. Or find some way to strip the Berzerkely Adult Daycare of theirs.
Posted by: Tharsis (formerly Saber Alter) at February 08, 2017 07:50 PM (YZ7Go)
Drink!
Posted by: Fritz at February 08, 2017 07:50 PM (GASAr)
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 07:50 PM (sdi6R)
I wasn't fond of them either. Its hardly treasonous to question Trump's statements on a topic.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 07:50 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Chuck C at February 08, 2017 07:50 PM (h99GH)
Posted by: iwuzhere at February 08, 2017 07:48 PM (GRNzr)
Thanks. Which comment?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:51 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: CMU VET at February 08, 2017 07:51 PM (C+wjz)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 08, 2017 07:51 PM (/LT6a)
<raises bleary eyes from comments section> What?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 08, 2017 07:52 PM (tHwdc)
The whole class is recorded on cams and such.
Every second I am there, it's show time.
It's there to protect me as much as it is the students.
Posted by: navybrat at February 08, 2017 07:52 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:47 PM (pCUr3) fnord (pCUr3)
Yeah, that sounds great, but they're vegetarians who believe soap is bad for you.
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On second thought....
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:52 PM (pCUr3)
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Oh come on, that has to be a fake name!
Possibly a fake name. A certainty that I have to change my password.
Posted by: mikeski at February 08, 2017 07:52 PM (TXZ1v)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 08, 2017 07:52 PM (57R5r)
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2017 07:43 PM (Frvrc)
What if they employ a court recorder, or are good stenographers themselves?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 08, 2017 07:52 PM (P/kVC)
I recorded my entire interim class my freshmen year. I was working on something else and just taped it and listened later. Its kind of a college tradition to record lectures for checking later and refreshing memory.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 07:52 PM (39g3+)
I wasn't fond of them either. Its hardly treasonous to question Trump's statements on a topic.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 07:50 PM (39g3+)
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Trump is 100% correct, but you don't make judges rule in your favor by saying other judges are poopie heads. That was a stupid thing to do.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 07:52 PM (wD9H7)
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (Enq6K)
--There are none of those where I live, although I used to shope there for Christmas when visiting the fam. There is Marshalls here, but I've never been since Ross is better.
Posted by: logprof at February 08, 2017 07:53 PM (GsAUU)
There's a Catherine the Great joke just waiting to be told here.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 07:53 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: otho at February 08, 2017 07:53 PM (lmIoG)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 08, 2017 07:53 PM (RWmbm)
Posted by: CMU VET at February 08, 2017 07:51 PM (C+wjz)
I went to college many years ago and took notes by hand, but I thought students have been using recorders for a long time now.
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 07:53 PM (sdi6R)
Im wearing L.L. Bean socks right now.
Dare to dream.
Posted by: fluffy at February 08, 2017 07:53 PM (jw2Xw)
I watched My Cousin Vinny again last night. Pissing off the judge is... unwise.
On the plus side, that might help Gorsuch's case in the Senate.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 08, 2017 07:54 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 07:50 PM (39g3+)
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That's PTSD talking after watching so many totes conservative judges nominated to SCOTUS go full retard. Assuming Blumenthal didn't like or distort (which is a big assumption) Gorsuch should have kept his fucking mouth shut. Now I'm far more worried he's going to be another Roberts.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:54 PM (pCUr3)
Posted by: rabidfox at February 08, 2017 07:36 PM (EW9tX)
"Jesus Christ nominated for Secretary of Health and Human Services. Thousands of doctors expected to lose their jobs."
Posted by: Crazywalt at February 08, 2017 07:54 PM (b8uNi)
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2017 07:54 PM (oXKWd)
I think it was purposeful.
If we can analogize to finance, Trump has put the Ninth Circuit in the position where they have to either fold or take Trump's "poison put" -- blame for any upcoming terrorist attacks.
If they're smart, they'll do the following, as I've been saying:
Yes to standing.
Uphold Seattle judge re: green cards.
But not on foreigners abroad.
Make it Ninth Circuit only
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 07:54 PM (SIY7D)
Posted by: PaleRider at February 08, 2017 07:54 PM (dkExz)
Telling them not to do something is tantamount to obliging them to record and broadcast. I love it when a lib shoots himself in the dick with his own gun. It's why they really shouldn't be allowed.
If the Dpt. of Edu. comes down, there is a chance much of this will be fixed. Gravity and all. We'll see.
Posted by: Doom at February 08, 2017 07:55 PM (ChhNd)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 08, 2017 07:55 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 07:49 PM (Enq6K)
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Don't TJ Maxx and Walmart carry the same lines?
You could always go nood too. Start a new trend.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:55 PM (pCUr3)
Hypothetical experiment: Hack Judge Robart's ruling was a complete overreach. What is to stop PDT from declaring such and ordering all appropriate branches of law enforcement from disregarding the stay?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:56 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 07:50 PM (39g3+) fnord (39g3+)
There are always some people who are about the ideas or the consequences, and some people who are about the team.
Personally, I can only observe that our nationwide shortage of chill continues.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 08, 2017 07:56 PM (wB8Tg)
Yeah I get that but its out of our hands. Its not like raging against him on social media will get him to drop out or something. We have to wait and see what these guys do or how it turns out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 07:57 PM (39g3+)
Thanks for the virtue-signalling, assholes.
No more of my money for you.
Posted by: logprof at February 08, 2017 07:44 PM (GsAUU)
The stupidity of these companies to cut off their nose to spite their face. Well if they want to lose customers they can follow Macy's in going out of business. The cause must be far more important than running a successful business
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 07:57 PM (auHtY)
Flash Mob/Bomb those stores with inner city youths. Shoplifting is a victimless crime anyway.
/s
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:57 PM (mbhDw)
Can I live under your heel?
Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at February 08, 2017 07:58 PM (3hIZX)
That, and they want the rest of us to STFU or they'll make us STFU.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 08, 2017 07:58 PM (NOIQH)
That's what those stores are worried about, #BLM and anarchists running amok in there "protesting".
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 08, 2017 07:58 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 08, 2017 07:58 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: eleven at February 08, 2017 07:58 PM (qUNWi)
The moral to my story? The next time you see a 'mostly peaceful' protest at a college campus on TV, imagine how the mob will behave if they haven't had a meal in a week.
These are the good old days.
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)
The whole class is recorded on cams and such.
Every second I am there, it's show time.
It's there to protect me as much as it is the students.
Posted by: navybrat at February 08, 2017 07:52 PM (w7KSn)
Thanks for the info NB! I figured as much.....one must assume at all times out and about in the public square that one is being filmed/recorded somehow.
O'Brien, eat your heart out.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 08, 2017 07:58 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 08, 2017 07:59 PM (57R5r)
Posted by: Keanu Reeves at February 08, 2017 07:59 PM (XoldI)
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POLL: Trump Administration More Trustworthy Than Media
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 07:59 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Toad-O at February 08, 2017 07:59 PM (cct0t)
Posted by: Unstable Cox at February 08, 2017 08:00 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 08, 2017 08:00 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 08, 2017 08:00 PM (/LT6a)
Xhe is lucky. Mine is critical but stable.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at February 08, 2017 08:00 PM (3hIZX)
--Andrew Jackson, a proto-Trumpian
Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 08, 2017 08:00 PM (H5rtT)
He needs a big rubber stamper "No - Fuck You very much" and an auto-pen.
Posted by: DaveA at February 08, 2017 08:01 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: eleven at February 08, 2017 08:01 PM (qUNWi)
I know, today it's like it's something to strive for, but at the time, students wanted to be thought of as at least trying for intelligence.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 08, 2017 08:01 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 08, 2017 07:59 PM (57R5r)
"A Whiter Shade of Taupe" will be his 2020 campaign theme song.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 08:02 PM (mbhDw)
Damning with faint praise, there.
"Thai ladyboy hookers all hopped up on goofballs" poll as more trustworthy than the MSM.
Posted by: mikeski at February 08, 2017 08:02 PM (TXZ1v)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 08:02 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 07:55 PM (pCUr3)
Blasphemy!
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 08:02 PM (Enq6K)
In particular, the results show that 55 percent of the 2,070 respondents support both revoking federal funding to sanctuary cities and the same percentage are for the ban that locked out immigrants for seven Muslim-majority countries.
Maybe someone should show this to the Vichy Republicans
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 08:02 PM (auHtY)
If they piss me off I'm goin native.
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Kohl's is ok, but some of my latest clothes has been from Bass Pro Shop. I really want to shop at LL Bean but the closest one is about an hour away, and I hear they have a good line of clothes with sunscreen protection or something. Currently the only LL Bean I have now are my bed sheets.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 08:03 PM (pCUr3)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 08, 2017 08:04 PM (KP5rU)
Who gets the kids?
Chicago goes to reform school, Detroit is already in prison. Each side has to take Cleveland on alternating weeks. Sooner or later Pittsburgh will go to the Superbowl again.
Posted by: DaveA at February 08, 2017 08:04 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 08, 2017 08:04 PM (/LT6a)
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POLL: Trump Administration More Trustworthy Than Media
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 07:59 PM (y3aQB)
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That's Fake News. I watch CNN and I have been assured by the very smart people there that 94% of the country wants to impeach Trump.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 08:04 PM (wD9H7)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 08, 2017 08:05 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Mr. Paul Anka at February 08, 2017 08:05 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: An Observation at February 08, 2017 08:05 PM (xrJsH)
Don't lock out Duluth Trading. Great khaki pants.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 08:05 PM (2w7OO)
I can guarantee they aren't worried about lost revenue from boycotts, the left doesn't shop there anyway. If they shop anywhere, on unemployment living in mom's basement plotting anarchy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 08:05 PM (39g3+)
as a fat guy, i'm intrigued by the Duluth Trading commercials.
Do they make a shirt that looks good untucked?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 08, 2017 08:06 PM (IqV8l)
What
Posted by: zombie
It's been decades in the making and pointed out long before now. STEMs at Berkeley now entered there knowing what is going on. Still they are silent, as far as I can see. Seems like there is only bathwater.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 08, 2017 08:06 PM (di1hb)
Posted by: otho at February 08, 2017 08:06 PM (lmIoG)
Blumenthal on CNN
They are going to war on Gorsuch
The judiciary is where they force polucy. Full freak out in effect
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2017 08:06 PM (8eSWI)
Posted by: wth at February 08, 2017 08:06 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 07:53 PM (sdi6R)
Remember the scene in Real Genius where Mitch ends up being the only person in the lecture hall?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 08, 2017 08:06 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 08:06 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 08:06 PM (wD9H7)
Posted by: SJW at February 08, 2017 08:07 PM (3hIZX)
Marshalls, Belk, and Jet.com banning selling anything by Ivanka Trump.
Marshalls & TJ Maxx both owned by TJX corp
Jet.com owned by W WalmartBelk is owned by Sycamore Partners
( http://www.sycamorepartners.com/Investment)
Neiman Marcus is half-owned by Ares Mgt and half bybthe Canadian govt
Nordstrom is sort of family owned
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 08:07 PM (Om16U)
...oh. Yeah.
Posted by: LaSue at February 08, 2017 08:07 PM (CLKfs)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 08, 2017 08:07 PM (/LT6a)
Kohl's is ok, but some of my latest clothes has been from Bass Pro Shop.
I really want to shop at LL Bean but the closest one is about an hour
away,
Don't lock out Duluth Trading. Great khaki pants.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 08:05 PM (2w7OO)
Ok, you guys just don't get the whole shopping thing that women do....
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 08:07 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: LaSue at February 08, 2017 08:08 PM (CLKfs)
I really want to shop at LL Bean but the closest one is about an hour away, and I hear they have a good line of clothes with sunscreen protection or something. Currently the only LL Bean I have now are my bed sheets.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 08:03 PM (pCUr3)
Like I said upthread, I've been buying from L.L. Bean for about 20 years, and I've never set foot in one of their stores. I used to do mail order from their catalogs, and now I shop online. I keep track of the sizes I've ordered in the past, and if say a pair of pants wears out, I just order the same item in the same size. They're very good about returns and exchanges on the few occasions that has been necessary.
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 08:08 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (oXKWd)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (6z9sL)
Saks is owned by Neimans
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (WtR/0)
Reality:
Emerson 2/5 - 2/6 617 RV 48 47 +1
Reuters/Ipsos 2/3 - 2/7 1896 A 48 47 +1
Economist/YouGov 2/5 - 2/7 1315 RV 44 49 -5
Rasmussen Reports 2/5 - 2/7 1500 LV 53 47 +6
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (wD9H7)
Posted by: Killerdog at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (9T9TA)
Posted by: Unstable Cox at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (Tyii7)
Hypothetical experiment: Hack Judge Robart's ruling was a complete overreach. What is to stop PDT from declaring such and ordering all appropriate branches of law enforcement from disregarding the stay?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:56 PM (mbhDw)
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"PDT". That's kind of an odd abbreviation. I assume the P is for President, but we never used PGWB for Bush 43, or PRR for Ronald Reagan. Or any other president, or senator, or governor, or anyone that I'm aware of.
You don't like DJT as an abbreviation?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: An Observation at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (xrJsH)
"So please understand
This isn't just goodbye
This is I can't stand you
This is where the road crashes into the Ocean" - "No, It Isn't" by +44
https://youtu.be/_g8Ld10EJxs
Posted by: V the K at February 08, 2017 08:10 PM (jn7FC)
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 08:07 PM (Enq6K)
I could make you a pair of shoes, but I have a tough time wrapping presents.
A box should be easy I can't imagine wrapping a foot.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 08, 2017 08:10 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: LaSue at February 08, 2017 08:10 PM (CLKfs)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 08, 2017 08:11 PM (/LT6a)
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 08:11 PM (2SrH1)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 08, 2017 08:11 PM (KP5rU)
I completely get it, I just don't understand why women suck at it.
They shop like they tell a story...get in, get what you need, get out.
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2017 08:12 PM (oXKWd)
Hypothetical experiment: Hack Judge Robart's ruling was a complete overreach. What is to stop PDT from declaring such and ordering all appropriate branches of law enforcement from disregarding the stay?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:56 PM (mbhDw)
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Has anyone proposed yet impeaching all the a-hole Lefty hack judges who blatantly refuse to rule on the clear law?
Oh, wait, we've got Ryan McConnell ... nevermind!
Posted by: ShainS at February 08, 2017 08:12 PM (mt8X9)
Posted by: runner at February 08, 2017 08:12 PM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (/LT6a)
We get it, we just don't do it.
I heard it explained once like this... it goes back to 100,000 years of natural selection picking the best sorts of hunter-gatherers.
Gatherer: go out, find apples. Don't pick the apples yet; you might find something better further into the forest. And you don't want to carry them around all day; that's a waste of energy. And they'll still be there tomorrow. So, walk for a half-day, remembering where the best gathering is, then turn around and gather on the way back to your camp. Women were gatherers. Thus, women "shop".
Hunter: go out, find a deer. Kill the deer. Go home and eat. Don't pass it up and assume there's a better deer further into the forest, or you might starve today. Men were hunters. Thus, men don't "shop", they just "buy".
Posted by: mikeski at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (TXZ1v)
a store with really cheap clothes is Primark (British I think)
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (R+30W)
You gonna answer my query???
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (8eSWI)
Posted by: sunny-dee at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (QAOZh)
Posted by: runner at February 08, 2017 08:12 PM (c6/9Q)
And they're going to or showing interest in buying Macy's
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: LeBra James at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: runner at February 08, 2017 08:14 PM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 08, 2017 08:14 PM (tHwdc)
You don't like DJT as an abbreviation?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (R+30W)
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PDFA
President Doesn't Fuck Around.
Posted by: Flyboy at February 08, 2017 08:14 PM (R3Jti)
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 08:14 PM (2SrH1)
They shop like they tell a story...get in, get what you need, get out.
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2017 08:12 PM (oXKWd)
See...you don't get it.
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 08:15 PM (Enq6K)
I want Done Gone and Goodbye also.
I also want one of these:
https://tinyurl.com/j4a2cjl
Why? Because I haven't felt like a complete human being since I found out about it 2 hours ago.
Good Night and Republic of Texas.
Posted by: Skunky Choom at February 08, 2017 08:15 PM (u/p7K)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 08, 2017 07:51 PM (/LT6a)
I doubt going off on a rant about the president where people are encouraged to take notes would be covered.
Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2017 08:15 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (auHtY)
somebody has to
Posted by: runner at February 08, 2017 08:15 PM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 08, 2017 08:16 PM (6z9sL)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 08, 2017 08:16 PM (Ya7zs)
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So your wardrobe doesn't wholly consist of thermal underwear and plaid, wool shirts? That's wild.
Posted by: John Nada at February 08, 2017 08:16 PM (pCUr3)
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 08:15 PM (Enq6K)
guys... no foreplay in anything
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 08:16 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 08:08 PM (sdi6R)
Same here. I have a number of shirts purchased from LL Bean, and it's all been via mail order. I have no idea where their closet brick-and-mortar outlet is.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at February 08, 2017 08:16 PM (qg/M0)
Men: There's a deer. I'm going to get that deer and bring it home.
Women: These berries aren't quite ripe yet.... I'm not sure whether those berries are poisonous... These berries look good.
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 08:16 PM (sdi6R)
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.It most certainly is not at any public University in most States from what I remember. I seem to recall some very specific cases about students recording classes to review and note take later coming up in lawsuits. It depends on specific State laws from what I remember.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 08, 2017 08:16 PM (le7jz)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 08, 2017 08:16 PM (/LT6a)
Tender young Ivanka is goofy on global warming, and perhaps too idealistic about her buddy Chelsea. The hubbie has more influence, and it is troubling that his lawyer is the infamous Jamie Gorelick.
But the establishment behemoth that has to be slain has tentacles everywhere. There will have to be some kind of reaching across the aisle, especially since Dems might be more helpful on America First Trade than the Chamber of Commerce open borders brigade. Retaining the rust belt is important.
When I get too worried, I just think how Hilda would have been the end of US. But we're only in week three. An RBG or Kennedy retirement, Sessions pushing some buttons, lots of moving parts still getting into gear. But constant reminders/encouragement to Trump are still in order.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 08, 2017 08:17 PM (RWmbm)
Instead of TJ Maxx there is Ross and Tuesday Morning
a store with really cheap clothes is Primark (British I think)
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (Om16U)
The only Tuesday Morning near me (and it's a hour away)....IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MARSHALL'S!
*sobs*
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 08:17 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 08:17 PM (2w7OO)
Posted by: BacktoGA at February 08, 2017 08:17 PM (/22Vh)
Posted by: torquewrench at February 08, 2017 08:17 PM (noWW6)
Hypothetical experiment: Hack Judge Robart's ruling was a complete overreach. What is to stop PDT from declaring such and ordering all appropriate branches of law enforcement from disregarding the stay?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 07:56 PM (mbhDw)
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Has anyone proposed yet impeaching all the a-hole Lefty hack judges who blatantly refuse to rule on the clear law?
Oh, wait, we've got Ryan McConnell ... nevermind!
Posted by: ShainS at February 08, 2017 08:12 PM (mt8X9)
I heard a novel idea of charging him with perjury for just making shit up.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 08, 2017 08:17 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: mikeski at February 08, 2017 08:17 PM (TXZ1v)
Posted by: small town girl at February 08, 2017 08:18 PM (UF0Iv)
Posted by: small town girl at February 08, 2017 08:18 PM (UF0Iv)
Posted by: small town girl at February 08, 2017 08:18 PM (UF0Iv)
ah well
we usually go to outlets
I figure the markupbthere is minimal
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 08:18 PM (Om16U)
For women, going shopping is like going through a safari ride at an amusement park. Men hear "safari" and think that they are there to bag something but for the women it's just an amusement park ride.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 08, 2017 08:18 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 08, 2017 08:19 PM (FwY12)
Posted by: Crosby Stills and Nash at February 08, 2017 08:19 PM (oXKWd)
It'll be like a really gay version of East Germany.
Posted by: RKae at February 08, 2017 08:19 PM (vb1vc)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 08, 2017 08:19 PM (/LT6a)
If the state is paying, it's public record.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 08, 2017 08:19 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 08:19 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2017 08:20 PM (oXKWd)
Posted by: the midnight Barrel at February 08, 2017 08:20 PM (TXZ1v)
Posted by: Toad-O at February 08, 2017 08:20 PM (cct0t)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 08, 2017 08:20 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Tami
I dunno. My shopping at the grocer's is *entirely* different than at an outfitter's or gun shop. Depends on category.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 08, 2017 08:20 PM (di1hb)
Men and women shop the same way, just for different things. The way women shop for clothes, men shop for hunting and fishing gear, boats, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 08, 2017 08:20 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 08, 2017 08:09 PM (R+30W)
You gonna answer my query???
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 08:13 PM (mbhDw)
++++
You mean he should go Jackson and tell the court to enforce its ruling.
Presumably, he doesn't want to seriously alienate Republicans in Congress, and that would do so big time. Plus, he might get his way through the courts, so might as well see how that works out first.
Even if he loses in the 9th, even if it goes to SCOTUS, and even if they tie (which would amount to a loss), if I'm not mistaken, he would still be able to ask for a rehearing at SCOTUS once Gorsuch is seated.
So, before going nuclear, he is better off going the traditional route.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 08, 2017 08:21 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 08, 2017 08:21 PM (V2Yro)
ah well
we usually go to outlets
I figure the markupbthere is minimal
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 08:18 PM (Om16U)
No, they don't. I've been in the one I mentioned several times. Can't say I really like Tuesday Mornings.....Monday's either.
I have been meaning to check out Ross.....
I'm verklempt over this...I have to go lay down.
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 08:21 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Regular joe at February 08, 2017 08:22 PM (ROIz5)
Why is this national news?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 08, 2017 08:22 PM (wD9H7)
Men: There's a deer. I'm going to get that deer and bring it home.
Women: These berries aren't quite ripe yet.... I'm not sure whether those berries are poisonous... These berries look good.
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 08:16 PM (sdi6R)
I forgot to mention that the point of the article was that neither approach is right or wrong. They're both ingrained.
Posted by: rickl at February 08, 2017 08:22 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 08, 2017 08:22 PM (GX63o)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 08, 2017 08:22 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 08, 2017 08:22 PM (/LT6a)
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 08:23 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Music. My wife thinks it's a great deal to find a sweater that she's going to wear twice. Meanwhile, if I'm down in the dumps, I'll splurge on some CD that I'll listen to twice.
"But, hey! It was only ten bucks!"
Posted by: RKae at February 08, 2017 08:23 PM (vb1vc)
Slight modification. It depends what we are shopping for. I'm having a couple custom fishing rods built and I spent about 2 hours with the builder on Monday. Picking the blanks, the thread, the guides, etc.. I felt just like a little girl.
But I guess I was buying hunting tools so it's all good.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 08:23 PM (/tuJf)
FFS here we go again....storm coming to NYC which will get 24/7 coverage. It's winter. It snows. Every. Fucking. Year.
Why is this national news?
Posted by: #neverskankles
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Because it fills up air time/column inches?
Posted by: Skunky Choom at February 08, 2017 08:23 PM (u/p7K)
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 08:11 PM (2SrH1)
--Ross is my favorite place for luggage. For just a few bucks more than the cheapo luggage at a big box you can get name brands that last longer.
Posted by: logprof at February 08, 2017 08:24 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: the midnight Barrel
LOL, oh man, that'll cost you on Judgement Day
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 08, 2017 08:26 PM (6FqZa)
For women, going shopping is like going through a safari ride at an amusement park. Men hear "safari" and think that they are there to bag something but for the women it's just an amusement park ride.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 08, 2017 08:18 PM (zc3Db)
or to paraphrase...
Its not the Nail.... Its NOT the shoes... (although really? it is...)
Posted by: Duh Left at February 08, 2017 08:26 PM (qf6WZ)
I can use it right? It wouldn't be a bad idea would it?
Posted by: Skunky Choom at February 08, 2017 08:27 PM (u/p7K)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 08:27 PM (fDdVG)
No modification necessary; you knew you were procuring goods in a feminine rather than masculine way. Otherwise you would have ended that with "just like a little boy", no?
Posted by: mikeski at February 08, 2017 08:28 PM (TXZ1v)
Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 08, 2017 08:29 PM (PvCxa)
Posted by: mikeski at February 08, 2017 08:29 PM (TXZ1v)
Anybody hear anything about that? Bueller? Bueller?
I'm starting to see the value in starting so much shit that the dems can't possibly keep up with it all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 08, 2017 08:31 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: CMU VET at February 08, 2017 08:31 PM (C+wjz)
anybody remember how today was supposed to be the big Pipeline Protest day, since Trump put it all on the fast track?
Anybody hear anything about that? Bueller? Bueller?
I'm starting to see the value in starting so much shit that the dems can't possibly keep up with it all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 08, 2017 08:31 PM (V2Yro)
Actually, I heard there was a veterans group standing with the protesters. It was on FBN but I was in the car listening and didn't catch when they were going to be there.
Posted by: Tami at February 08, 2017 08:32 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: the midnight Barrel at February 08, 2017 08:20 PM (TXZ1v)
Wait for it...
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 08, 2017 08:34 PM (tHwdc)
No Problem. Permission Granted. Tell them Dirks Strewn sent you, and told them to suk it.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 08, 2017 08:34 PM (iWW0H)
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8741
Getting no response, I have contacted Governor Scott, Representative Goodson, and Senator Hukill to ask them why the State is funding an organization that sponsors terrorist training.
I know better than to contact Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings because I understand just how corrupt he is.
I wonder how long it would have taken UCF to act if the terrorist training was done by a conservative organization?
Posted by: Mark Matis at February 08, 2017 08:36 PM (LzG0h)
Our Country was founred/designed beautifully. The US Constitution need only be enforced/followed as written. Similar to the Ten Commandments. "Hey, if you adhere to these 10 basic guidelines, your society will more than likely turn out OK". The detractors need only be proven wrong.Posted by: TheFoundersParty at February 08, 2017 08:38 PM (QAVtQ)
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 08:39 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: CMU VET at February 08, 2017 08:47 PM (C+wjz)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 08, 2017 08:52 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Denny Crane! at February 08, 2017 08:52 PM (4bjXi)
Thanks for the virtue-signalling, assholes.
No more of my money for you.
Posted by: logprof at February 08, 2017 07:44 PM (GsAUU)
My FU list is getting longer and longer.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 08, 2017 08:59 PM (nQ10o)
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8741
Getting no response, I have contacted Governor Scott, Representative Goodson, and Senator Hukill to ask them why the State is funding an organization that sponsors terrorist training.
I know better than to contact Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings because I understand just how corrupt he is.
I wonder how long it would have taken UCF to act if the terrorist training was done by a conservative organization?
Posted by: Mark Matis at February 08, 2017 08:36 PM (LzG0h)
Thank you for fighting the good fight.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 08, 2017 09:01 PM (nQ10o)
Even a tiny college like CSUN is so staunchly indoctrinated by the left that I don't know how we're going to replace the retiring conservatives like Thomas Sowell and eventually Dennis Prager. Hell, Judith Curry, a serious voice in stopping the money drain that Climate Change really is, had to throw in the towel due to the academic environment as it is. Are the Milo Yiannopoulus' and Ben Shapiro's going to carry that torch?
Posted by: Croaker at February 08, 2017 09:20 PM (kd6ig)
Posted by: 'Cold Civil War'. That seems apt. at February 08, 2017 09:35 PM (oBuXO)
Posted by: Monty James at February 08, 2017 09:37 PM (gKOMX)
Posted by: Martell at February 08, 2017 10:10 PM (BKBBL)
If Professor Warren goes on a tirade, you must not broadcast it.
If Senator Warren goes on a tirade, you must.
She's got a lot of rules for a rule-breaker.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 08, 2017 11:48 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: J Cass at February 09, 2017 02:45 AM (/i7Zt)
https://tinyurl.com/hbnfymu
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