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Democrat Senator Jeanne Shaheen: Everyone I Know Wants to Give Gorsuch and Up-or-Down Vote
This is big, not just because Shaheen is telegraphing that she doesn't want to filibuster Gorsuch, but because she's telegraphing that many senators she knows also (secretly, probably) want to avoid the filibuster as well.
SEN. SHAHEEN: Mr. President, I just wanted to take a minute -- I know we have several people waiting to speak -- but I wanted to respond to my colleague from South Dakota because I think for Senator Thune to come to the floor and castigate Democrats for holding up Judge Gorsuch, who has just been nominated, and for suggesting we're going to filibuster, the fact is, throughout most of last year we saw the Republican Majority in this body hold up the nominee of Merrick Garland, President Obama's nominee. For the first time in history this body refused to hold a hearing on a nominee for the Supreme Court, refused to give an up-or-down vote. And, to suggest that we should not get a fair hearing on the nominee to the Supreme Court, Judge Gorsuch, I think is just not something that's going to be good for the American people. Unlike the Republican Majority, I haven't heard any Democrats saying we don’t think that Judge Gorsuch should get a hearing or that he should get an up-or-down vote. Everybody I've talked to agrees he should a hearing and an up-or-down vote.It's possible they're holding their filibuster powder dry for the next Trump nominee. Gorsuch, a Scalia-like judge, is nominated to replace Antonin Scalia, who many would argue is the most Scalia-like judge in history. Thus, this nomination just keeps the status quo intact. The replacement of the moderate/liberal/libertarian Anthony Kennedy for a genuine conservative would be a game-changer, as would the replacement of the 83-year-old Ruth Bader Ginsburg. That might be when the Democrats resort to their own nuclear options. I don't know if the Democrats can avoid votes like the Wisconsin state Democrats did -- fleeing the capital -- but I'm sure the Democrats are looking into that sort of thing for the next nomination. Obama claimed he didn't speak about Trump's Muslim ban. Actually, he did; he just avoided saying the word "Trump" because he wants the media to say "For the first time, former President Obama has criticized Trump by name" when he decides it's in his Branding and Public Relations interest to do so. I think he may be holding up his official First Trump Criticism for the next Supreme Court pick. As to Shaheen: it's also possible -- likely, even -- that she's simply lying, claiming the Democrats are open-minded and have no current plans to filibuster Gorsuch. They'll go into the hearings on a Listening Tour, you see. Then -- get this! -- they'll learn something so terrible about Gorsuch that they're now duty bound to filibuster him to save the Constitution itself. Whatever he says, they'll find something to claim constituted the ultimate dealbreaker. So this could just be some bullshit to lay the groundwork for the I Was Ready To Give Him an Up or Down Vote But Then I Heard His "Disturbing" Take on the 10th Amendment And Oh My God I Just Can't Even.
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Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 03:51 PM (hLRSq)
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Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 03:51 PM (hLRSq)
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Obama claimed he didn't speak about Trump's Muslim ban. Actually, he did; he just avoided saying the word "Trump" because he wants the media to say "For the first time, former President Obama has criticized Trump by name" when he decides it's in his Branding and Public Relations interest to do so.
After the State of the Union.
After the State of the Union.
Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2017 03:52 PM (z/Ubi)
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off topic: Keith Olberman is a twat.
Posted by: mallfly roddingham clinton at February 08, 2017 03:52 PM (b7fwp)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 08, 2017 03:52 PM (u0s1P)
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Posted by: BIG AL FREDO at February 08, 2017 03:52 PM (iWo0u)
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I have been wondering when the Democrat politicians would start trying to edge away from their base's wilder behavior and demands and start trying to acknowledge reality. Gorsuch may be the point they do so - engage in a little failure theater, say they did everything reasonably possible and move on.
Their base won't like it but the Democrats have to rein them in at some time or they are going to lose even more ground. And these senators know this.
Their base won't like it but the Democrats have to rein them in at some time or they are going to lose even more ground. And these senators know this.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 03:54 PM (hLRSq)
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Jeanne Shaheen? I guess her parents had a sense of humor.
Posted by: Irving Paul Freeley at February 08, 2017 03:55 PM (+INtM)
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It would seem logical to keep their powder dry until the next pick, but then again...Democrats.
This may the first attempt of party leaders to push back on their Base and moderate their expectations.
This may the first attempt of party leaders to push back on their Base and moderate their expectations.
Posted by: WisRich at February 08, 2017 03:56 PM (hdpay)
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Jeanne went off script. Punishment will ensue.
Posted by: tubal at February 08, 2017 03:56 PM (zSVEm)
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I find it cute they totter out pinch-faced granny Shaheen to pitch this talking point. She's not up for re-election in 2018, but she IS from perennially purple NH (much to my shame).
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 08, 2017 03:56 PM (4df7R)
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62 Degrees on Monday & 6-8 inches of snow tonight & Tomorrow in My Area !
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 03:57 PM (y3aQB)
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Just get him confirmed as soon as possible. The EO on immigration will not be the last court challenge that Trump will face.
Posted by: josephistan at February 08, 2017 03:57 PM (7HtZB)
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NH -> swing state.
I would also point out that the person assigned to escort Gorsuch around the Senate is none other than ex-NH Senator Kelly Ayotte.
Somebody wants to get re-elected.
I would also point out that the person assigned to escort Gorsuch around the Senate is none other than ex-NH Senator Kelly Ayotte.
Somebody wants to get re-elected.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 03:57 PM (/tuJf)
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Didn't Schumer promise to fight seating what he called a stolen seat?
They've something up their sleeve, to be sure. For no other reason than to make a show of Resistance, but there will be something.
But next time....yeah, to the mattresses we go.
They've something up their sleeve, to be sure. For no other reason than to make a show of Resistance, but there will be something.
But next time....yeah, to the mattresses we go.
Posted by: Mitch & Murray at February 08, 2017 03:57 PM (z79tQ)
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If they nukethe filibuster, then when RBG Passes on, Trump can appoint another real conservative, and upset the "balance of the Court."
Posted by: rd at February 08, 2017 03:57 PM (iT57s)
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Pardon the OT, but the SNOPES guy seems to have gotten his nuts in a nice little wringer.
UK Daily Mail has a lurid story, but go to this, from Forbes.
http://tinyurl.com/j3f9d57
UK Daily Mail has a lurid story, but go to this, from Forbes.
http://tinyurl.com/j3f9d57
Posted by: navybrat at February 08, 2017 03:58 PM (w7KSn)
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Lying? That's a given.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 08, 2017 03:58 PM (QQ+il)
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Margaret Sanger Award Winner, Sen. Shaheen, will vote NO on Gorsuch because abortion is her Blessed Sacrament.
Posted by: Abortion Uber Alles at February 08, 2017 03:58 PM (ndGCC)
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Trying to filibuster Gorsuch would be stupid. He's solid enough that the GOP will "nuke the filibuster," making it easier for Trump next time around - when RGB leaves. The dems have to know this, and all the noise is just for show to placate their fevered constituents. The dems will fold.
Posted by: wooga at February 08, 2017 03:58 PM (3I7wr)
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Supreme Court justices are basically the Pope's of America. We probably should change that...
Posted by: Hope at February 08, 2017 03:58 PM (7wyDO)
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"I don't know if the Democrats can avoid votes like the Wisconsin state Democrats did -- fleeing the capital -- but I'm sure the Democrats are looking into that sort of thing for the next nomination."
I don't think that would work. Art. I, Sec. 5 states that a majority is a quorum to do business. All that would do is leave the Republicans with a wide open field, with a majority of those present all that is needed to confirm.
I don't think that would work. Art. I, Sec. 5 states that a majority is a quorum to do business. All that would do is leave the Republicans with a wide open field, with a majority of those present all that is needed to confirm.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 03:58 PM (hLRSq)
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As to Shaheen: it's also possible -- likely, even -- that she's simply lying, claiming the Democrats are open-minded and have no current plans to filibuster Gorsuch. They'll go into the hearings on a Listening Tour, you see.
Then -- get this! -- they'll learn something so terrible about Gorsuch that they're now duty bound to filibuster him to save the Constitution itself.
And then Trump nuclear options the next 3 seats.
Then -- get this! -- they'll learn something so terrible about Gorsuch that they're now duty bound to filibuster him to save the Constitution itself.
And then Trump nuclear options the next 3 seats.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 03:59 PM (2w7OO)
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Hey, where did y'all go? Come back and pay attention to me. Want to see my rack?
Posted by: Katy Tur at February 08, 2017 03:59 PM (OD2ni)
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she's telegraphing that many senators she knows also (secretly, probably) want to avoid the filibuster as well.
First the silent Trump vote gets him elected.
Then the silent Senator vote wants to just get the AG confirmation over with.
Seems like all the quiet people are behind Trump and the noisy bastids are losing popularity.
First the silent Trump vote gets him elected.
Then the silent Senator vote wants to just get the AG confirmation over with.
Seems like all the quiet people are behind Trump and the noisy bastids are losing popularity.
Posted by: kallisto at February 08, 2017 03:59 PM (nNdYv)
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If I were a Democrat leader, I would pursue the "keep the powder dry" strategy.
It is far easier to swallow a like minded justice getting replaced, if Ruth Bader Ginsberg retired during Obama's term, I wouldn't be "shooting blood out of my whatever" if Obama got to name her replacement.
It is far easier to swallow a like minded justice getting replaced, if Ruth Bader Ginsberg retired during Obama's term, I wouldn't be "shooting blood out of my whatever" if Obama got to name her replacement.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 03:59 PM (DWmPO)
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i pick lying but i hope i'm wrong
Posted by: concrete girl at February 08, 2017 03:59 PM (EjP03)
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Democrats lie every time they open their mouths. This is neither news nor shocking except to Republicans in Congress.
Posted by: sans_sheriff at February 08, 2017 03:59 PM (pHEb9)
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I think they're smarting up and will let him through.
They nuke it now and they have nothing against RBG's probably successor who could be Pryor.
Imagine the meltdown then.
They nuke it now and they have nothing against RBG's probably successor who could be Pryor.
Imagine the meltdown then.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 08, 2017 03:59 PM (uTIgy)
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How would we know what other senators are telling her and how would we know they were being honest with her.
More fake news from unnamed sources.
Those other senators should be standing behind her so we can see who they are.
More fake news from unnamed sources.
Those other senators should be standing behind her so we can see who they are.
Posted by: Wendel Willard at February 08, 2017 04:00 PM (3eKxw)
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So this could just be some bullshit to lay the groundwork for the I Was Ready To Give Him an Up or Down Vote But Then I Heard His "Disturbing" Take on the 10th Amendment And Oh My God I Just Can't Even.
Yup. Or she has no clue what she's saying, that's always a possibility.
You know what? I would love to get back to a time when a Supreme Court justice could be voted in 98-0, you know, like Scalia was. I would love to get back to a time when Supreme Court justices were not a make or break situation.
You know, because I would love to get back to a time when the Supreme Court didn't act like a super legislature and oh look my eye is twitching again argh
Yup. Or she has no clue what she's saying, that's always a possibility.
You know what? I would love to get back to a time when a Supreme Court justice could be voted in 98-0, you know, like Scalia was. I would love to get back to a time when Supreme Court justices were not a make or break situation.
You know, because I would love to get back to a time when the Supreme Court didn't act like a super legislature and oh look my eye is twitching again argh
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 08, 2017 04:00 PM (mf5HN)
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8 I have been wondering when the Democrat politicians would start trying to edge away from their base's wilder behavior and demands and start trying to acknowledge reality.
Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware came out last week advocating cooperation and he got reamed on social media by lunatic donkeys.
Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware came out last week advocating cooperation and he got reamed on social media by lunatic donkeys.
Posted by: kallisto at February 08, 2017 04:01 PM (nNdYv)
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Gorsuch is a mish pincher!!
Posted by: Bruce at February 08, 2017 04:01 PM (8ikIW)
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27 If I were a Democrat leader, I would pursue the "keep the powder dry" strategy.
It is far easier to swallow a like minded justice getting replaced, if Ruth Bader Ginsberg retired during Obama's term, I wouldn't be "shooting blood out of my whatever" if Obama got to name her replacement.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 03:59 PM (DWmPO)
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The problem they're having is that their base could try to seriously primary some of your red state senators. They probably wouldn't succeed, but it would damage these incumbents and sap their war chests in preparation for a general election.
Also, the money behind the party seems to want this kind of gesture.
It is far easier to swallow a like minded justice getting replaced, if Ruth Bader Ginsberg retired during Obama's term, I wouldn't be "shooting blood out of my whatever" if Obama got to name her replacement.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 03:59 PM (DWmPO)
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The problem they're having is that their base could try to seriously primary some of your red state senators. They probably wouldn't succeed, but it would damage these incumbents and sap their war chests in preparation for a general election.
Also, the money behind the party seems to want this kind of gesture.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 08, 2017 04:01 PM (uTIgy)
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I think they won't put up a resistance with this pick but all hell will break loose for the next one. Then its WAR!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:01 PM (a0IVu)
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15 NH -> swing state.
I would also point out that the person assigned to escort Gorsuch around the Senate is none other than ex-NH Senator Kelly Ayotte.
Somebody wants to get re-elected.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 03:57 PM (/tuJf)
I'd like to see a rule that unless they are elected to another position ex-legislatures are banned from DC for 5 years. Its always disturbing to me how many congressmen continue to remain in and around DC after leaving office.
Shows you where their true home is and who they really represent though doesn't it?
I would also point out that the person assigned to escort Gorsuch around the Senate is none other than ex-NH Senator Kelly Ayotte.
Somebody wants to get re-elected.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 03:57 PM (/tuJf)
I'd like to see a rule that unless they are elected to another position ex-legislatures are banned from DC for 5 years. Its always disturbing to me how many congressmen continue to remain in and around DC after leaving office.
Shows you where their true home is and who they really represent though doesn't it?
Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2017 04:01 PM (z/Ubi)
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21 Trying to filibuster Gorsuch would be stupid. He's solid enough that the GOP will "nuke the filibuster," making it easier for Trump next time around - when RGB leaves. The dems have to know this, and all the noise is just for show to placate their fevered constituents. The dems will fold.
Posted by: wooga at February 08, 2017 03:58 PM (3I7wr)
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Yep. Heck, the Cabinet nominations is just noise.
But there is a larger goal: Slow the work of the Senate to snails pace. Why do think the 100 day agenda moved to 200 days. It's working.
Posted by: wooga at February 08, 2017 03:58 PM (3I7wr)
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Yep. Heck, the Cabinet nominations is just noise.
But there is a larger goal: Slow the work of the Senate to snails pace. Why do think the 100 day agenda moved to 200 days. It's working.
Posted by: WisRich at February 08, 2017 04:01 PM (hdpay)
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Yup. Or she has no clue what she's saying, that's always a possibility.
With Shaheen, it's virtually a guarantee. But she's been around long enough now that she knows how the levers of power work in DC. If this were newly-minted Senate twit Hassan speaking it'd be a different story.
Yup. Or she has no clue what she's saying, that's always a possibility.
With Shaheen, it's virtually a guarantee. But she's been around long enough now that she knows how the levers of power work in DC. If this were newly-minted Senate twit Hassan speaking it'd be a different story.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 08, 2017 04:01 PM (4df7R)
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She had to battle hard to barely beat Ayotte and New Hampshire isn't a state where US Senator is seen by the voters as a lifetime job.
Posted by: tu3031 at February 08, 2017 04:01 PM (qJhUV)
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My money is on Shaheen is lying.
I am sure that the Democrats would just love to have an up or down vote, but it's just Johnson and this damn war baby....
I am sure that the Democrats would just love to have an up or down vote, but it's just Johnson and this damn war baby....
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2017 04:02 PM (tewYv)
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Their base won't like it but the Democrats have to rein them in at some time or they are going to lose even more ground. And these senators know this.
I think we are looking at a chain reaction out of control meltdown at 3 Mile Island type event. Train status = left the station
I think we are looking at a chain reaction out of control meltdown at 3 Mile Island type event. Train status = left the station
Posted by: Max Power at February 08, 2017 04:02 PM (q177U)
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The one "legit" reason for the dems to stall on Gorsuch is to keep him off the bench until a couple of socially hot cases are heard (a tranny "Title IX" case is the next big thing on route). Thy have no other reason to stall except fundeaisig from their pussyhats.
Posted by: wooga at February 08, 2017 04:02 PM (3I7wr)
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President Trump's 'Muslim ban' is, I rather suspect, a combo platter of good things:
Remember 9/11/01? Remember how the GW Bush administration, in office for less than 8 months and subject to a late start due to Al Gore's sore-loser suit in Florida, caught all the blame for not rolling up Al Queda's cell of terrorists?
The travel restrictions do two things; one, it cuts down on the amount of unvetted possible terrorists getting into the country (legally, at least), so it may very well hamstring the latest atrocity; and two, it inoculates the Trump administration politically against any atrocity that does get committed.
Loony Left sez, "You let this happen!", Trump says, "you fought me every step of the way of trying to prevent this!"
As for the chestnut that the restrictions are for countries that haven't supplied any big-time brand name terrorists, the counter is that those slobs are fungible, and can be easily spotted into a hellhole like Sudan with a workable cover; and the 9/11 bunch was specifically chosen mostly from Saudis by Bin Laden. After all, his goal was to get the US out of Saudi Arabia first, and then hopefully take over himself. Anything to drive a wedge between allies.
ISIS and their ilk don't care where the bodies come from, as long as they blow up on time.
Remember 9/11/01? Remember how the GW Bush administration, in office for less than 8 months and subject to a late start due to Al Gore's sore-loser suit in Florida, caught all the blame for not rolling up Al Queda's cell of terrorists?
The travel restrictions do two things; one, it cuts down on the amount of unvetted possible terrorists getting into the country (legally, at least), so it may very well hamstring the latest atrocity; and two, it inoculates the Trump administration politically against any atrocity that does get committed.
Loony Left sez, "You let this happen!", Trump says, "you fought me every step of the way of trying to prevent this!"
As for the chestnut that the restrictions are for countries that haven't supplied any big-time brand name terrorists, the counter is that those slobs are fungible, and can be easily spotted into a hellhole like Sudan with a workable cover; and the 9/11 bunch was specifically chosen mostly from Saudis by Bin Laden. After all, his goal was to get the US out of Saudi Arabia first, and then hopefully take over himself. Anything to drive a wedge between allies.
ISIS and their ilk don't care where the bodies come from, as long as they blow up on time.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 08, 2017 04:02 PM (nd1zx)
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They nuke it now and they have nothing against RBG's probably successor who could be Pryor.
Oh man. I know how the Splooge Guy feels.
Oh man. I know how the Splooge Guy feels.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 08, 2017 04:02 PM (QQ+il)
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Mike! MikeMikeMikeMikeMike!
You know what day it isssss?
C'mon, Mike, What. Day. Is. Today!
*mike: trmphmumblde*
That's right, Mike, it's.......
TRUMMMPPP DAAAAAAYYYYY!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
You know what day it isssss?
C'mon, Mike, What. Day. Is. Today!
*mike: trmphmumblde*
That's right, Mike, it's.......
TRUMMMPPP DAAAAAAYYYYY!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 08, 2017 04:02 PM (v5iqM)
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TheJamesMadison...congrats to you and your family
Posted by: concrete girl at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (EjP03)
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I wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea for SC Justices to periodically face votes of confidence or no confidence as other judges have to deal with?
Not term limits, but just accountability?
Not term limits, but just accountability?
Posted by: tubal at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (zSVEm)
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>>off topic: Keith Olberman is a twat.
Posted by: mallfly roddingham clinton
Yes, he is. Did you know I have two mommies?
Posted by: mallfly roddingham clinton
Yes, he is. Did you know I have two mommies?
Posted by: Katy Tur at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (/Nite)
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I killed the other thread with this. Is this something?
Here is something no one is talking about:
http://preview.alturl.com/hdadj
Three brothers who managed office information technology for members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and other lawmakers were abruptly relieved of their duties on suspicion that they accessed congressional computers without permission.
Brothers Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan were barred from computer networks at the House of Representatives Thursday, The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group has learned.
They are Muslim, and brothers. So connection to the Muslim Brotherhood?
http://preview.alturl.com/5rrkb
Could be.
Oh yeah - some other names there - Tammy Duckworth? John Sarbanes? Debbie Wasserman-Schultz?
I am guessing that the press would consider the existence of a set of Muslims working on computer security for the House Intelligence Committee and a bunch of Democrats would be, umm, unhelpful to the "Trump is history's greatest monster" narrative.
Here is something no one is talking about:
http://preview.alturl.com/hdadj
Three brothers who managed office information technology for members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and other lawmakers were abruptly relieved of their duties on suspicion that they accessed congressional computers without permission.
Brothers Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan were barred from computer networks at the House of Representatives Thursday, The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group has learned.
They are Muslim, and brothers. So connection to the Muslim Brotherhood?
http://preview.alturl.com/5rrkb
Could be.
Oh yeah - some other names there - Tammy Duckworth? John Sarbanes? Debbie Wasserman-Schultz?
I am guessing that the press would consider the existence of a set of Muslims working on computer security for the House Intelligence Committee and a bunch of Democrats would be, umm, unhelpful to the "Trump is history's greatest monster" narrative.
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (tewYv)
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NOT A BAN
LANCE SMASH
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 08, 2017 03:52 PM (u0s1P)
But it should be, and therein lies the problem. Saw a muzzie skank today, in the full-body black bag getup, except for the face veil. Which would have improved her looks. A lot.
LANCE SMASH
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 08, 2017 03:52 PM (u0s1P)
But it should be, and therein lies the problem. Saw a muzzie skank today, in the full-body black bag getup, except for the face veil. Which would have improved her looks. A lot.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (WDdjT)
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Your second theory is likely the correct one. Do not trust these people. Do not trust them at all. Who was it that said "they hate us"? Time to act like we believe it.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (kUmUV)
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"throughout most of last year we saw the Republican Majority in this body
hold up the nominee of Merrick Garland, President Obama's nominee."
When was he nominated?
hold up the nominee of Merrick Garland, President Obama's nominee."
When was he nominated?
Posted by: davidt at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (XoldI)
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47 TheJamesMadison...congrats to you and your family
Posted by: concrete girl at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (EjP03)
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Thanks!
Posted by: concrete girl at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (EjP03)
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Thanks!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 08, 2017 04:04 PM (uTIgy)
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'Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware came out last week advocating cooperation and he got reamed on social media by lunatic donkeys."
Unfortunately for the Left social media does not vote for Sen. Coons, only persons in Delaware, both living and the dead, can vote for him.
Unfortunately for the Left social media does not vote for Sen. Coons, only persons in Delaware, both living and the dead, can vote for him.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:04 PM (hLRSq)
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Is Sen Bill Nelson going to keep yammering away?? For the love of God...shut up.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:04 PM (a0IVu)
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53 "throughout most of last year we saw the Republican Majority in this body
hold up the nominee of Merrick Garland, President Obama's nominee."
When was he nominated?
Posted by: davidt at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (XoldI)
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I think it was February of 2016.
hold up the nominee of Merrick Garland, President Obama's nominee."
When was he nominated?
Posted by: davidt at February 08, 2017 04:03 PM (XoldI)
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I think it was February of 2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 08, 2017 04:04 PM (uTIgy)
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55 'Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware came out last week advocating cooperation and he got reamed on social media by lunatic donkeys."
Unfortunately for the Left social media does not vote for Sen. Coons, only persons in Delaware, both living and the dead, can vote for him.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:04 PM (hLRSq)
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Who is he listening to, though?
One of them is really loud...
Unfortunately for the Left social media does not vote for Sen. Coons, only persons in Delaware, both living and the dead, can vote for him.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:04 PM (hLRSq)
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Who is he listening to, though?
One of them is really loud...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 08, 2017 04:05 PM (uTIgy)
59
A politician moved her lips.
BS spewed forth.
Whether deceit or factual, it smelled just the same.
BS spewed forth.
Whether deceit or factual, it smelled just the same.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 08, 2017 04:05 PM (0tfLf)
60
Yup. Or she has no clue what she's saying, that's always a possibility.
You know what? I would love to get back to a time when a Supreme Court justice could be voted in 98-0, you know, like Scalia was. I would love to get back to a time when Supreme Court justices were not a make or break situation.
You know, because I would love to get back to a time when the Supreme Court didn't act like a super legislature and oh look my eye is twitching again argh
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 08, 2017 04:00 PM (mf5HN)
Its meant to be "Oh see the Democrats are reasonable and willing to give the judicial nominees the chance to be voted on, unlike those crazy Republicans who accuse us of wanting to block them and wouldn't let Obama put forward his choice, and we even had to use the nuclear option for lower courts!" Because they have the memories of gold fish.
You know what? I would love to get back to a time when a Supreme Court justice could be voted in 98-0, you know, like Scalia was. I would love to get back to a time when Supreme Court justices were not a make or break situation.
You know, because I would love to get back to a time when the Supreme Court didn't act like a super legislature and oh look my eye is twitching again argh
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at February 08, 2017 04:00 PM (mf5HN)
Its meant to be "Oh see the Democrats are reasonable and willing to give the judicial nominees the chance to be voted on, unlike those crazy Republicans who accuse us of wanting to block them and wouldn't let Obama put forward his choice, and we even had to use the nuclear option for lower courts!" Because they have the memories of gold fish.
Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2017 04:05 PM (z/Ubi)
61
It's complete bullshit and posturing. Gorsuch went up to Capitol Hill to meet with Democrats and they refused to meet with him.
Posted by: ThomasR at February 08, 2017 04:05 PM (WKkqe)
62
State of the Union could just be a tweet with Trump. It is a silly tradition, anyway.
Posted by: Hope at February 08, 2017 04:05 PM (7wyDO)
63
The problem they're having is that their base could try to seriously primary some of your red state senators. They probably wouldn't succeed, but it would damage these incumbents and sap their war chests in preparation for a general election.
Also, the money behind the party seems to want this kind of gesture.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
_________
It doesn't mean they have to vote for the nominee, just not try and filibuster it.
Gorsuch will be seated, and Republicans will go nuclear over the Scalia seat if he's not given an up and down vote, so it's basically a question of what it's worth to lose badly so early on and then no longer have any credible threat to the opposition.
personally, I would prefer Democrats went nuclear and we just get it over with. then Schumer would basically be powerless for the remainder of the term and we could seat all of our other judges very quickly.
The problem they're having is that their base could try to seriously primary some of your red state senators. They probably wouldn't succeed, but it would damage these incumbents and sap their war chests in preparation for a general election.
Also, the money behind the party seems to want this kind of gesture.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
_________
It doesn't mean they have to vote for the nominee, just not try and filibuster it.
Gorsuch will be seated, and Republicans will go nuclear over the Scalia seat if he's not given an up and down vote, so it's basically a question of what it's worth to lose badly so early on and then no longer have any credible threat to the opposition.
personally, I would prefer Democrats went nuclear and we just get it over with. then Schumer would basically be powerless for the remainder of the term and we could seat all of our other judges very quickly.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:06 PM (DWmPO)
64
Just like Schumer made an agreement to pass particular Trump appointees on the first day of his presidency and the - get this! - reneged?
The GOP needs to stop being Charlie Brown to their last minute football swiping Lucy already.
The GOP needs to stop being Charlie Brown to their last minute football swiping Lucy already.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 08, 2017 04:06 PM (NOIQH)
65
"throughout most of last year we saw the Republican Majority in this body hold up the nominee of Merrick Garland, President Obama's nominee."
Thanks to the Biden rule.
Thanks to the Biden rule.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 04:06 PM (2w7OO)
66
She is lying... both about it being "unprecedented" to not consider Merrick and in the Democrats intention to filibuster.
Thankfully, at least for now, McConnell is allowing the Democrats to filibuster while holding them to the actual rules. Enough all night sessions where they end up still not getting their way and maybe they will just give up.
Thankfully, at least for now, McConnell is allowing the Democrats to filibuster while holding them to the actual rules. Enough all night sessions where they end up still not getting their way and maybe they will just give up.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2017 04:07 PM (FTXAT)
67
But it should be, and therein lies the problem.
RAR NO NOT NECESSARILY
ADD COUNTRIES TO LIST
LIST FOR MOAR VETTING
IF ACTUAL BAD DUDES, ARREST
ANYWAY ACCURACY IS BIG DEAL- NOT BAN, NOT MUSLIM
BUT 'TEMPORARY INCREASED VETTING FOR CERTAIN NATIONALS' NOT GOOD SOUNDBITE
RAR NO NOT NECESSARILY
ADD COUNTRIES TO LIST
LIST FOR MOAR VETTING
IF ACTUAL BAD DUDES, ARREST
ANYWAY ACCURACY IS BIG DEAL- NOT BAN, NOT MUSLIM
BUT 'TEMPORARY INCREASED VETTING FOR CERTAIN NATIONALS' NOT GOOD SOUNDBITE
Posted by: Lance-Hulk at February 08, 2017 04:07 PM (u0s1P)
68
Hey Dems,you could have had Garland.You could have had the next 2 or 3 SC justice slots too.All you need was for Hillary to win.And she was going to win in a landslide right?I mean,a reality tv show billionaire who says and Tweets all kinds of stupid shit and grabs pussies,he was easy to beat.He was the chosen opponent.
Posted by: steevy at February 08, 2017 04:07 PM (r/0kC)
69
Both Sinetors from Vermint are telling all of us in Brattleboro that Trump only wants to give tax breeks to persons of no coler and raise taxes on persons of coler. This makes us sick and we calls on Presdent Obama to do something abouot Trump's unfair crap !!!!!!!!!!! Trump and Bussh lied and we are alls payying for these lies !!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro (Soon to be Obamaboro) Vt at February 08, 2017 04:07 PM (Fbj4h)
70
" Gorsuch, a Scalia-like judge, is nominated to replace Antonin Scalia, who many would argue is the most Scalia-like judge in history. Thus, this nomination just keeps the status quo intact"
I haven't read all the comments, so someone better than me has probably commented on this. But I just want to say that this is one of the reasons I keep coming back to Ace's house.
I haven't read all the comments, so someone better than me has probably commented on this. But I just want to say that this is one of the reasons I keep coming back to Ace's house.
Posted by: moki at February 08, 2017 04:07 PM (gfRCk)
71
The Democratic base are the Chinese, Muslim Brotherhood/Saudi, Soros, Koch brothers(believe it or not), and various other donors. The votes are just there to pull the lever. They are not the Democratic base anymore than Facebook users are customers.
Posted by: Hope at February 08, 2017 04:07 PM (7wyDO)
72
Who are these fuckturd Republican traitors???
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-08/ prominent-republicans-begin-push-to-tax-carbon-cut-regulations
"A group of prominent Republicans and business leaders backing a tax on carbon dioxide were taking their case Wednesday to top White House aides...
""Climate change poses an unacceptable risk to our climate and to our economy," Paulson said in a statement. ""
These despicable cretins need to be shut down ASAP. They're embracing the Global Warming scam to push for more tax $$$ for the govt. -- they Big Govt. GOPers, the worst of both worlds.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-08/ prominent-republicans-begin-push-to-tax-carbon-cut-regulations
"A group of prominent Republicans and business leaders backing a tax on carbon dioxide were taking their case Wednesday to top White House aides...
""Climate change poses an unacceptable risk to our climate and to our economy," Paulson said in a statement. ""
These despicable cretins need to be shut down ASAP. They're embracing the Global Warming scam to push for more tax $$$ for the govt. -- they Big Govt. GOPers, the worst of both worlds.
Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2017 04:08 PM (jBuUi)
73
>>Shows you where their true home is and who they really represent though doesn't it?
For this particular job I don't have as much a problem with it. It's a traditional role for an ex-Senator, Fred! did it and so have others who have good Senate relationships and a judicial background.
Ayotte was the first female AG of the state of NH before going to the Senate so she has legal chops and undoubtedly knows Gorsuch.
I don't want to see her become a lobbyist or anything but I'm ok with this largely ceremonial role.
For this particular job I don't have as much a problem with it. It's a traditional role for an ex-Senator, Fred! did it and so have others who have good Senate relationships and a judicial background.
Ayotte was the first female AG of the state of NH before going to the Senate so she has legal chops and undoubtedly knows Gorsuch.
I don't want to see her become a lobbyist or anything but I'm ok with this largely ceremonial role.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 04:08 PM (/tuJf)
74
From previous thread, thank you for the livestream. Some FL total idiot is pontificating about voting rights.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 08, 2017 04:08 PM (MIKMs)
75
They'll discover he is in fact a live adult, therefore his parents were likely prolife, therefore filibuster
Posted by: GregV61 at February 08, 2017 04:09 PM (MoJlY)
76
@72 zombie read the article. Republicans not so prominent.
Paulson, though he served in Bush's cabinet, is not even a Republican I don't think.
Paulson, though he served in Bush's cabinet, is not even a Republican I don't think.
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2017 04:10 PM (tewYv)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2017 04:10 PM (8eSWI)
78
So what is this on Drudge about ObamaCare repeal going to be delayed further according to the WH?
I sort of knew if it wasn't repealed in the first few weeks, it wasn't really going to happen.
I sort of knew if it wasn't repealed in the first few weeks, it wasn't really going to happen.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:10 PM (DWmPO)
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at February 08, 2017 04:10 PM (X+nFp)
80
Actually, after rigorous scientific testing, it's been determined that Scalia is only the 3rd-most Scalia-like SCOTUS member in history, losing out to Felix Frankfurter and...you guessed it...Frank Stallone.
Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 08, 2017 04:11 PM (oZ6kz)
81
I sort of knew if it wasn't repealed in the first few weeks, it wasn't really going to happen.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:10 PM (DWmPO)
Do not get tired of winning.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:10 PM (DWmPO)
Do not get tired of winning.
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2017 04:11 PM (tewYv)
82
Who are these fuckturd Republican traitors???
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-08/ prominent-republicans-begin-push-to-tax-carbon-cut-regulations
"A group of prominent Republicans
They haven't been in 20+ years.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-08/ prominent-republicans-begin-push-to-tax-carbon-cut-regulations
"A group of prominent Republicans
They haven't been in 20+ years.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 04:11 PM (2w7OO)
83
Ayotte went squishy on us as soon as she got down there. Didn't vote for her in primary. Then she went all wobblely about Trump. I did vote for her in Nov, she lost, tough shit
Posted by: NativeNH at February 08, 2017 04:11 PM (dtInH)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2017 04:11 PM (8eSWI)
85
"Who is he listening to, though?
One of them is really loud..."
In the end, if you are Louis Leftist of Portland Oregon you can scream as loud as you want to Sen. Coons of Delaware. He is under no obligation to listen to you.
(Now, if you are Louis Leftist, billionaire, with a mansion and a yacht, just step right over here for our Frequent Buyer Service Club.)
"Who is he listening to, though?
One of them is really loud..."
In the end, if you are Louis Leftist of Portland Oregon you can scream as loud as you want to Sen. Coons of Delaware. He is under no obligation to listen to you.
(Now, if you are Louis Leftist, billionaire, with a mansion and a yacht, just step right over here for our Frequent Buyer Service Club.)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:11 PM (hLRSq)
86
>>Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro (Soon to be Obamaboro) Vt
Been hitting the sauce pretty hard since the election haven't you?
Been hitting the sauce pretty hard since the election haven't you?
Posted by: Aviator at February 08, 2017 04:11 PM (/Nite)
87
It's been a while since we had a thread on the concept of "Honor the threat".
Don't know why that popped into my head.
Don't know why that popped into my head.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 08, 2017 04:12 PM (J+eG2)
88
Who are these fuckturd Republican traitors???
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-08/ prominent-republicans-begin-push-to-tax-carbon-cut-regulations
--
We should ask Bill Wynn. They're probably his friends.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-08/ prominent-republicans-begin-push-to-tax-carbon-cut-regulations
--
We should ask Bill Wynn. They're probably his friends.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at February 08, 2017 04:12 PM (KUaJL)
89
Reps stopped Garland with the Biden Rule.
They might add Gorsuch to the SC with the Reid Rule.
And then....the FDR Rule for public sector unions?
They might add Gorsuch to the SC with the Reid Rule.
And then....the FDR Rule for public sector unions?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2017 04:12 PM (X7E8f)
90
Who are these fuckturd Republican traitors???
Paulson's a Democrat, or at least was before Bush 43 appointed him, and has always been an enviroloon.
George Shultz has been borged by his San Francisco socialite wife's friends.
I find it fascinating that Rob Walton would be in on that garbage.
Paulson's a Democrat, or at least was before Bush 43 appointed him, and has always been an enviroloon.
George Shultz has been borged by his San Francisco socialite wife's friends.
I find it fascinating that Rob Walton would be in on that garbage.
Posted by: JEM at February 08, 2017 04:12 PM (TppKb)
91
"78 So what is this on Drudge about ObamaCare repeal going to be delayed further according to the WH?
I sort of knew if it wasn't repealed in the first few weeks, it wasn't really going to happen."
__________________________________________
I'm willing to give them a pass on this for now. It took eight years for the Democrats and the ACA to completely thunderfuck healthcare. Repealing it without getting an acid bomb in the face is going to be tough.
I sort of knew if it wasn't repealed in the first few weeks, it wasn't really going to happen."
__________________________________________
I'm willing to give them a pass on this for now. It took eight years for the Democrats and the ACA to completely thunderfuck healthcare. Repealing it without getting an acid bomb in the face is going to be tough.
Posted by: ThomasR at February 08, 2017 04:13 PM (WKkqe)
92
Ayotte went squishy on us as soon as she got down there. Didn't vote for her in primary. Then she went all wobblely about Trump. I did vote for her in Nov, she lost, tough shit
Posted by: NativeNH
I'm getting close to the opinion that really squishy Republicans are worse than just simply having a Democrat fill that seat.
She basically implied Trump would molest her young daughter if left alone with him, can't say I was too upset a Democrat narrowly beat her.
Posted by: NativeNH
I'm getting close to the opinion that really squishy Republicans are worse than just simply having a Democrat fill that seat.
She basically implied Trump would molest her young daughter if left alone with him, can't say I was too upset a Democrat narrowly beat her.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:13 PM (DWmPO)
93
BUT 'TEMPORARY INCREASED VETTING FOR CERTAIN NATIONALS' NOT GOOD SOUNDBITE
Posted by: Lance-Hulk at February 08, 2017 04:07 PM (u0s1P)
Even "good" muslims provide the sea in which the bad fish swim.
Posted by: Lance-Hulk at February 08, 2017 04:07 PM (u0s1P)
Even "good" muslims provide the sea in which the bad fish swim.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 08, 2017 04:14 PM (WDdjT)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2017 04:14 PM (8eSWI)
95
The idea of maintaining a status quo between those who will faithfully execute their duties despite their political beliefs and those who will not is utterly hateful to me.
The Baader-Meinhoffs of this world belong nowhere near a gavel. All who legislate from the bench and are rubber stamps for the Leftist agenda must be purged.
WAR.
The idea of maintaining a status quo between those who will faithfully execute their duties despite their political beliefs and those who will not is utterly hateful to me.
The Baader-Meinhoffs of this world belong nowhere near a gavel. All who legislate from the bench and are rubber stamps for the Leftist agenda must be purged.
WAR.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:15 PM (mbhDw)
96
89 Reps stopped Garland with the Biden Rule.
They might add Gorsuch to the SC with the Reid Rule.
And then....the FDR Rule for public sector unions?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2017 04:12 PM (X7E8f)
________________
New found respect for Democrat politicians?
Gotta love people who do whatever it takes to get the job done without respect to how badly it will come back to haunt them down the road.
They might add Gorsuch to the SC with the Reid Rule.
And then....the FDR Rule for public sector unions?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2017 04:12 PM (X7E8f)
________________
New found respect for Democrat politicians?
Gotta love people who do whatever it takes to get the job done without respect to how badly it will come back to haunt them down the road.
Posted by: Lily Formerly of HotAir (Now from AoSHQ)assassin in the night at February 08, 2017 04:15 PM (vivhj)
97
Trump will listen politely,and tell them to go piss up a rope.
Posted by: steevy at February 08, 2017 04:15 PM (r/0kC)
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 08, 2017 04:15 PM (ZpRiU)
99
"BUT 'TEMPORARY INCREASED VETTING FOR CERTAIN NATIONALS' NOT GOOD SOUNDBITE
Posted by: Lance-Hulk"
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU USED ALL CAPS JUST LIKE ME.
Posted by: Lance-Hulk"
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU USED ALL CAPS JUST LIKE ME.
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at February 08, 2017 04:16 PM (OD2ni)
100
I'm willing to give them a pass on this for now. It took eight years for the Democrats and the ACA to completely thunderfuck healthcare. Repealing it without getting an acid bomb in the face is going to be tough.
Posted by: ThomasR
_______
I just don't trust them, I think parts will be reformed, but it will be some ObamaCare mutation that still will make people want Universal health care.
As more time goes by, purple state Republicans will start balking.
It should have been repealed with like a 2 year window countdown so some other reforms could be made, but at least deliver on that promise.
Posted by: ThomasR
_______
I just don't trust them, I think parts will be reformed, but it will be some ObamaCare mutation that still will make people want Universal health care.
As more time goes by, purple state Republicans will start balking.
It should have been repealed with like a 2 year window countdown so some other reforms could be made, but at least deliver on that promise.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:16 PM (DWmPO)
101
Gorsuch doesn't separate his colors and whites when he does laundry
Posted by: McCool at February 08, 2017 04:16 PM (lWCRE)
102
These despicable cretins need to be shut down ASAP. They're embracing the Global Warming scam to push for more tax $$$ for the govt. -- they Big Govt. GOPers, the worst of both worlds.
Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2017 04:08 PM (jBuUi)
................
I saw that on the news this morning, made me want to scream.
Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2017 04:08 PM (jBuUi)
................
I saw that on the news this morning, made me want to scream.
Posted by: wth at February 08, 2017 04:16 PM (HgMAr)
103
Are you really sure that "Scalia . . . is the most Scalia-like judge in history"?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 08, 2017 04:16 PM (tu3iY)
104
91 Repealing it without getting an acid bomb in the face is going to be tough.
Posted by: ThomasR at February 08, 2017 04:13 PM (WKkqe)
An acid bomb from whom?
PDT was elected by us to eradicate the evil edict ASAP. Within weeks if not a few months at most. I cannot afford $700/month!
I want my freedom back.
Posted by: ThomasR at February 08, 2017 04:13 PM (WKkqe)
An acid bomb from whom?
PDT was elected by us to eradicate the evil edict ASAP. Within weeks if not a few months at most. I cannot afford $700/month!
I want my freedom back.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:17 PM (mbhDw)
105
103 Are you really sure that "Scalia . . . is the most Scalia-like judge in history"?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 08, 2017 04:16 PM (tu3iY)
Joseph Story is up there.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 08, 2017 04:16 PM (tu3iY)
Joseph Story is up there.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:17 PM (mbhDw)
106
Senators should be censored for lying or consciously misrepresenting the facts when speaking in the Senate chambers.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 08, 2017 04:17 PM (N96yY)
107
if the Dems flee the capitol like in Wisconsin, then the rest of the Senate could declare it in "recess" and then Trump can appoint ANYONE during a recess.
remember what JEF did? (or tried to do)?
remember what JEF did? (or tried to do)?
Posted by: WaldoTJ (in Texas) at February 08, 2017 04:18 PM (M1MpJ)
108
No bargaining about anything now.
Bargains imply that both sides have something to offer.
The GoP Left.... what? Votes?
If they don't get in line, 2018 is coming up, and Trump is the guy to point out their transgressions.
Bargains imply that both sides have something to offer.
The GoP Left.... what? Votes?
If they don't get in line, 2018 is coming up, and Trump is the guy to point out their transgressions.
Posted by: tubal at February 08, 2017 04:18 PM (zSVEm)
109
Well, fwiw, I think it's a tacit admission that they got nothin, other than hoping that their media allies somehow manage to gaslight the American people into abandoning PDT and his agenda.
If they force the nuclear option at this time, then it'll be in place for the next few SC nominees as well.
If they force the nuclear option at this time, then it'll be in place for the next few SC nominees as well.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 08, 2017 04:18 PM (lfM7I)
110
These despicable cretins need to be shut down ASAP. They're embracing the Global Warming scam to push for more tax $$$ for the govt. -- they Big Govt. GOPers, the worst of both worlds.
Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2017 04:08 PM (jBuUi)
James Baker, Hank Paulson, and George Schulz.
Baker is 86, George Schulz is 96, and Hank Paulson is their guardian at age 70. Baker and Schulz have been out of government for 30 years, and Paulson was Treasury Sec. when the financial world blew up in 2008. He is now an environmental justice warrior and is dragging the two very elderly statesman around with him because it would be unseemly to be dragging HW Bush in his wheelchair.
Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2017 04:08 PM (jBuUi)
James Baker, Hank Paulson, and George Schulz.
Baker is 86, George Schulz is 96, and Hank Paulson is their guardian at age 70. Baker and Schulz have been out of government for 30 years, and Paulson was Treasury Sec. when the financial world blew up in 2008. He is now an environmental justice warrior and is dragging the two very elderly statesman around with him because it would be unseemly to be dragging HW Bush in his wheelchair.
Posted by: Jen at February 08, 2017 04:18 PM (cWhln)
111
"103 Are you really sure that "Scalia . . . is the most Scalia-like judge in history"?"
His support for Chevron deference was a chink in the armor. The position of Thomas (and Gorsuch) is much better IMO.
His support for Chevron deference was a chink in the armor. The position of Thomas (and Gorsuch) is much better IMO.
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 08, 2017 04:19 PM (OD2ni)
112
106 Senators should be censored for lying or consciously misrepresenting the facts when speaking in the Senate chambers.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 08, 2017 04:17 PM (N96yY)
The Senate will form a committee of Senators to look into that straight away.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 08, 2017 04:17 PM (N96yY)
The Senate will form a committee of Senators to look into that straight away.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:19 PM (mbhDw)
113
WWLDD
What would Lena Dunham do? Indeed!
If...she want to lose a few more pounds, that is
I says a straight up or down vote
What would Lena Dunham do? Indeed!
If...she want to lose a few more pounds, that is
I says a straight up or down vote
Posted by: Ed gibbon at February 08, 2017 04:19 PM (5mSp4)
114
We're talking about the folks who stamped their little feet over the secretary of education, right?
F*ck you. War.
F*ck you. War.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 08, 2017 04:20 PM (/f1mm)
115
She's a politician and a Democrat. if it were possible, every word out of her mouth would be a double lie.
Posted by: West at February 08, 2017 04:20 PM (1Rgee)
116
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU USED ALL CAPS JUST LIKE ME.
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at February 08, 2017 04:16 PM (OD2ni)
WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CAP YOUR NAME.
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at February 08, 2017 04:16 PM (OD2ni)
WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CAP YOUR NAME.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at February 08, 2017 04:20 PM (QQ+il)
117
"PDT was elected by us to eradicate the evil edict ASAP. Within weeks if not a few months at most. I cannot afford $700/month!"
My sympathy and best wishes as always, but I was more concerned about keeping Hillary out and who would be nominated to the Supreme Court.
My sympathy and best wishes as always, but I was more concerned about keeping Hillary out and who would be nominated to the Supreme Court.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:20 PM (hLRSq)
118
>>It should have been repealed with like a 2 year window countdown so some other reforms could be made, but at least deliver on that promise.
And what good what that have actually done other than a sound bite?
If you listen to what people involved actually say like Ryan and Trump, they haven't moved much. Ryan is talking about legislation by the end of March and says they have multiple committee meetings about the actual law every single day. Trump is saying, now that he is off the campaign trail, that gosh, its bigger than he thought and the replacement will take longer to role out.
Well no shit. But none of them is saying it isn't happening. Actually, they are saying it has to happen because as it is plain to see the law is collapsing.
Stop listening to the media, even Drudge. They get paid to stir shit up.
And what good what that have actually done other than a sound bite?
If you listen to what people involved actually say like Ryan and Trump, they haven't moved much. Ryan is talking about legislation by the end of March and says they have multiple committee meetings about the actual law every single day. Trump is saying, now that he is off the campaign trail, that gosh, its bigger than he thought and the replacement will take longer to role out.
Well no shit. But none of them is saying it isn't happening. Actually, they are saying it has to happen because as it is plain to see the law is collapsing.
Stop listening to the media, even Drudge. They get paid to stir shit up.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 04:20 PM (/tuJf)
119
Either way, the Republican's will find a way to Homer this up.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 08, 2017 04:20 PM (6LwXe)
120
117 "PDT was elected by us to eradicate the evil edict ASAP. Within weeks if not a few months at most. I cannot afford $700/month!"
My sympathy and best wishes as always, but I was more concerned about keeping Hillary out and who would be nominated to the Supreme Court.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:20 PM (hLRSq)
Thanks, for that Mikey. That lasted all of one day in November. Now what, pray tell?????
My sympathy and best wishes as always, but I was more concerned about keeping Hillary out and who would be nominated to the Supreme Court.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:20 PM (hLRSq)
Thanks, for that Mikey. That lasted all of one day in November. Now what, pray tell?????
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:21 PM (mbhDw)
121
"throughout most of last year we saw the Republican Majority in this body hold up the nominee of Merrick Garland, President Obama's nominee."
Thanks to the Biden rule.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 04:06 PM (2w7OO)
The rules only apply to us not to them
Thanks to the Biden rule.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 04:06 PM (2w7OO)
The rules only apply to us not to them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 04:21 PM (493sH)
122
When Price gets in at HHS, shit gets real for ObamaCare
Shit also gets real when Sessions is in place.
Expect Sessions to lead some kind of federal takeover of the Chicago police.
Shit also gets real when Sessions is in place.
Expect Sessions to lead some kind of federal takeover of the Chicago police.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:21 PM (SIY7D)
123
Stop listening to the media, even Drudge. They get paid to stir shit up.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I guess I should also stop listening to Republican politicians saying that they would repeal Obamacare on their first day.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I guess I should also stop listening to Republican politicians saying that they would repeal Obamacare on their first day.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:21 PM (DWmPO)
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Posted by: WaldoTJ (in Texas) at February 08, 2017 04:18 PM (M1MpJ)
If the Dems flee, then the Republicans, being just more than a majority, would constitute a quorum for conducting business and they could then vote a nominee through without any hassles.
If the Dems flee, then the Republicans, being just more than a majority, would constitute a quorum for conducting business and they could then vote a nominee through without any hassles.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:22 PM (hLRSq)
125
O/T some 'deplorable' wants to send Warren an Ancestry DNA kit for Valentines...lololol...trolling fu is strong.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:23 PM (a0IVu)
126
"A group of prominent Republican...
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... has-beens and losers who haven't done a damn thing in over a decade and are wanting some of that sweet, sweet global warming cash for the grandkids and hookers. But mostly hookers.
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... has-beens and losers who haven't done a damn thing in over a decade and are wanting some of that sweet, sweet global warming cash for the grandkids and hookers. But mostly hookers.
Posted by: Dang at February 08, 2017 04:23 PM (8b+oT)
127
115 She's a politician and a Democrat. if it were possible, every word out of her mouth would be a double lie.
Posted by: West at February 08, 2017 04:20 PM (1Rgee)
She's not as impressive as Katy Tur, either.
When Katy talks to you, she POINTS at you. Right at you. Twice.
Posted by: West at February 08, 2017 04:20 PM (1Rgee)
She's not as impressive as Katy Tur, either.
When Katy talks to you, she POINTS at you. Right at you. Twice.
Posted by: tubal at February 08, 2017 04:23 PM (zSVEm)
128
I'm a lifelong Republican, but the Republicans should confirm Judge Garland first or voters in the battleground states will vote for Hillary and it will be an early night.
Posted by: Bull Wynn at February 08, 2017 04:23 PM (OD2ni)
129
I guess I should also stop listening to Republican politicians saying that they would repeal Obamacare on their first day.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:21 PM (DWmPO)
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Exactly how could they have done that?
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:21 PM (DWmPO)
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Exactly how could they have done that?
Posted by: Flyboy at February 08, 2017 04:23 PM (R3Jti)
130
Maybe she wants to save herself the indignity of the Elizabeth Warren "Bitch sit down and shut up" rule
Posted by: Methos at February 08, 2017 04:24 PM (3Liv/)
131
It should have been repealed with like a 2 year window countdown so some other reforms could be made, but at least deliver on that promise.
Can he at least get his cabinet seated and his SC picks seated first?
Makes it easier to go after miscreants with your people in place.
Can he at least get his cabinet seated and his SC picks seated first?
Makes it easier to go after miscreants with your people in place.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 04:24 PM (2w7OO)
132
Exactly how could they have done that?
Posted by: Flyboy
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Obama sez Trump apparently has a magic wand.
Posted by: Flyboy
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Obama sez Trump apparently has a magic wand.
Posted by: Dang at February 08, 2017 04:24 PM (8b+oT)
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>>I guess I should also stop listening to Republican politicians saying that they would repeal Obamacare on their first day.
If you actually believe what politicians, even Trump, say on the campaign trail is the literal truth, then yes you should.
You don't unwind a law that touches 1/5 of the economy with a simple repeal order unless you want absolute chaos and to see the Republicans get absolutely slaughtered in 2018.
If you actually believe what politicians, even Trump, say on the campaign trail is the literal truth, then yes you should.
You don't unwind a law that touches 1/5 of the economy with a simple repeal order unless you want absolute chaos and to see the Republicans get absolutely slaughtered in 2018.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 04:25 PM (/tuJf)
134
I saw on CNN that Judge Gorsuch was caught pantsless on the bench and he was jerking it under his robe.
Posted by: Fritz at February 08, 2017 04:25 PM (GASAr)
135
"126 "A group of prominent Republican...
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... has-beens and losers who haven't done a damn thing in over a decade and are wanting some of that sweet, sweet global warming cash for the grandkids and hookers. But mostly hookers."
Yeah. I'm surprised that Bruce Bartlett was not included. He is usually a prime suspect for the "even some Republicans support this liberal idea"
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... has-beens and losers who haven't done a damn thing in over a decade and are wanting some of that sweet, sweet global warming cash for the grandkids and hookers. But mostly hookers."
Yeah. I'm surprised that Bruce Bartlett was not included. He is usually a prime suspect for the "even some Republicans support this liberal idea"
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 08, 2017 04:25 PM (OD2ni)
136
134 No,that was Judge Harry from Night Court.
Posted by: steevy at February 08, 2017 04:26 PM (r/0kC)
137
Just push the 'screw you' button and put him in.
Posted by: cicerokid at February 08, 2017 04:26 PM (3TOkq)
138
Thanks, for that Mikey. That lasted all of one day in November. Now what, pray tell?????
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:21 PM (mbhDw)
It took the Democrats over a year to pass that manure spreader of a law. It isn't going to be undone in a day. The US Congress only moves with speed when (A) WWII is declared and (2) someone drops a $100 bill on the ground.
I don't know what else to say. Blame the Democrats for slow-walking everything. Might as well and they really deserve it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:21 PM (mbhDw)
It took the Democrats over a year to pass that manure spreader of a law. It isn't going to be undone in a day. The US Congress only moves with speed when (A) WWII is declared and (2) someone drops a $100 bill on the ground.
I don't know what else to say. Blame the Democrats for slow-walking everything. Might as well and they really deserve it.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:26 PM (hLRSq)
139
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU USED ALL CAPS JUST LIKE ME.
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger T
WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CAP YOUR NAME.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER
DOES SOMEONE NEED A CAP IN THEIR ASS?
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger T
WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CAP YOUR NAME.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER
DOES SOMEONE NEED A CAP IN THEIR ASS?
Posted by: AARON HERNANDEZ at February 08, 2017 04:26 PM (4YGWz)
140
Dumb GOP is dumb.
If they don't pull the nuclear option NOW it will make the next appointment seem even less legitimate. It will also be spectacular failure theater for their base.
If they don't pull the nuclear option NOW it will make the next appointment seem even less legitimate. It will also be spectacular failure theater for their base.
Posted by: Max Power at February 08, 2017 04:26 PM (q177U)
141
Exactly how could they have done that?
Posted by: Flyboy at February 08, 2017 04:23 PM (R3Jti)
Shortly before Jan 20 Republicans announced they would have a repeal bill ready during Trump's first week as President.
Exactly how could they have done that?
Posted by: Flyboy at February 08, 2017 04:23 PM (R3Jti)
Shortly before Jan 20 Republicans announced they would have a repeal bill ready during Trump's first week as President.
Posted by: Mathers at February 08, 2017 04:26 PM (3myMJ)
142
"139 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU USED ALL CAPS JUST LIKE ME.
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger"
WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CAP YOUR NAME.
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger"
WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CAP YOUR NAME.
Posted by: AMY SCHUMER at February 08, 2017 04:28 PM (OD2ni)
143
JacStraw is the resident GOPe mouthpiece, Paul Ryan will save the DAY!!!!!!
Posted by: Ion at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (nq/J2)
144
138 I don't know what else to say. Blame the Democrats for slow-walking everything. Might as well and they really deserve it.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:26 PM (hLRSq)
Dude, love ya, buddy, but it's this simple.
A) The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 is hereby repealed.
B) We go back in time to when it was passed.
C) A market is created where the insurance industry can now sell whatever products they want without the consequences of PPACA.
D) People rush in to buy new (old) policies.
E) Sweeten the deal with no more in-state monopolies and allow sales across state lines.
F) Profit.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Can Help You Get Your Garden of Curses In Shape This Spring! at February 08, 2017 04:26 PM (hLRSq)
Dude, love ya, buddy, but it's this simple.
A) The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 is hereby repealed.
B) We go back in time to when it was passed.
C) A market is created where the insurance industry can now sell whatever products they want without the consequences of PPACA.
D) People rush in to buy new (old) policies.
E) Sweeten the deal with no more in-state monopolies and allow sales across state lines.
F) Profit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (mbhDw)
145
Every time my guy wins an election, " I'm like all... Get your Ivan the Terrible thing goin', and MAKE shit happen!"
And then I think, " I really don't want Ivan the Terrible".
And then I think, " I really don't want Ivan the Terrible".
Posted by: tubal at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (zSVEm)
146
>>I saw on CNN that Judge Gorsuch was caught pantsless on the bench and he was jerking it under his robe.
Posted by: Fritz
No. That was Hank Johnson on a park bench wearing his bathrobe and slippers when he wandered away from his house.
Posted by: Fritz
No. That was Hank Johnson on a park bench wearing his bathrobe and slippers when he wandered away from his house.
Posted by: Aviator at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (/Nite)
147
When will Lott and Barbour get right with climate change?
Posted by: Under Fire at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (6LwXe)
148
Wrong on substance. For more than 80 years it has been the Senate's practice to not co firm SCOTUS nominees for vacancies that arise during a presidential election year.
The idea is that the "advice" of the senate is reliant on the people whom they represent. Not that they seem to give a fuck. But that's how our democratic republic actually works. That little phrase "consent of the governed".
So STFD Janine.
The idea is that the "advice" of the senate is reliant on the people whom they represent. Not that they seem to give a fuck. But that's how our democratic republic actually works. That little phrase "consent of the governed".
So STFD Janine.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 08, 2017 04:30 PM (6nSdj)
149
There's no resident GOPe mouthpiece-just people with various opinions.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 04:30 PM (fDdVG)
150
Yay. Sen Tim Scott..a breath of fresh air ..
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:30 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: BARNEY FRANK at February 08, 2017 04:30 PM (/Nite)
152
JacStraw is the resident GOPe mouthpiece, Paul Ryan will save the DAY!!!!!!
Posted by: Ion at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (nq/J2)
Nope. Not even close. Sheesh.
Posted by: Ion at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (nq/J2)
Nope. Not even close. Sheesh.
Posted by: tubal at February 08, 2017 04:31 PM (zSVEm)
153
147 When will Lott and Barbour get right with climate change?
Posted by: Under Fire at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (6LwXe)
When their free pass to Pedo Island expires?
Posted by: Under Fire at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (6LwXe)
When their free pass to Pedo Island expires?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:31 PM (mbhDw)
154
Shortly before Jan 20 Republicans announced they would have a repeal bill ready during Trump's first week as President.
Posted by: Mathers at February 08, 2017 04:26 PM (3myMJ)
Awww....they're so cute when they believe what we tell them.
Posted by: Mathers at February 08, 2017 04:26 PM (3myMJ)
Awww....they're so cute when they believe what we tell them.
Posted by: The GOP at February 08, 2017 04:31 PM (SpeiC)
155
You don't unwind a law that touches 1/5 of the economy with a simple repeal order unless you want absolute chaos and to see the Republicans get absolutely slaughtered in 2018.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Meanwhile, those of us paying for our health insurance keep getting slaughtered every 4 weeks in premiums.
The GOP better be more mindful about angry GOP voters than Democrat voters that love Obamacare.
Supposedly after the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare and the individual mandate, GOP congressional staffers were saying the leadership was absolutely relieved.
So that's what we're dealing with right now, absolute cowards.
Posted by: JackStraw
_______
Meanwhile, those of us paying for our health insurance keep getting slaughtered every 4 weeks in premiums.
The GOP better be more mindful about angry GOP voters than Democrat voters that love Obamacare.
Supposedly after the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare and the individual mandate, GOP congressional staffers were saying the leadership was absolutely relieved.
So that's what we're dealing with right now, absolute cowards.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:31 PM (DWmPO)
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>>JacStraw is the resident GOPe mouthpiece, Paul Ryan will save the DAY!!!!!!
Yes, the "k" is silent. Good call.
Let's make a bet. I say that the Republicans including Trump will in fact repeal Obamacare and offer a replacement plan. If I'm right, you will learn to spell my nic properly.
And if you're right and nothing happens, well you're not right so we won't have to worry about it.
Yes, the "k" is silent. Good call.
Let's make a bet. I say that the Republicans including Trump will in fact repeal Obamacare and offer a replacement plan. If I'm right, you will learn to spell my nic properly.
And if you're right and nothing happens, well you're not right so we won't have to worry about it.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 04:31 PM (/tuJf)
157
146
No. That was Hank Johnson on a park bench wearing his bathrobe and slippers when he wandered away from his house.
Posted by: Aviator at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (/Nite)
The black Vincent "the Chin" Gigante.
No. That was Hank Johnson on a park bench wearing his bathrobe and slippers when he wandered away from his house.
Posted by: Aviator at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (/Nite)
The black Vincent "the Chin" Gigante.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:31 PM (mbhDw)
158
In the end, if you are Louis Leftist of Portland Oregon you can scream as loud as you want to Sen. Coons of Delaware. He is under no obligation to listen to you.
When he made the statement I wondered if his constituents were contacting him about the constant demonstrations and senatorial obstruction. Delaware is blue, but not Chicago blue or Cali blue. An acceptable moderate Republican could win there.
When he made the statement I wondered if his constituents were contacting him about the constant demonstrations and senatorial obstruction. Delaware is blue, but not Chicago blue or Cali blue. An acceptable moderate Republican could win there.
Posted by: kallisto at February 08, 2017 04:32 PM (nNdYv)
159
You don't unwind a law that touches 1/5 of the
economy with a simple repeal order unless you want absolute chaos and to
see the Republicans get absolutely slaughtered in 2018.
Posted by: JackStraw
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This.
Thing is, most people who are for Obamacare do not have Obamacare.
So roll out a competing plan and let blue states keep Obamacare if they want to see all the higher premiums take more and more out of their wallets. That's a win/win. Ease the red state's burden and let the blue state's screaming get louder and louder. It will. Then they will see the repeal as their salvation, because right now they wouldn't. If everyone in the US were at least semi-smart, we wouldn't have to do it like this but dummies learn sloooowly.
economy with a simple repeal order unless you want absolute chaos and to
see the Republicans get absolutely slaughtered in 2018.
Posted by: JackStraw
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This.
Thing is, most people who are for Obamacare do not have Obamacare.
So roll out a competing plan and let blue states keep Obamacare if they want to see all the higher premiums take more and more out of their wallets. That's a win/win. Ease the red state's burden and let the blue state's screaming get louder and louder. It will. Then they will see the repeal as their salvation, because right now they wouldn't. If everyone in the US were at least semi-smart, we wouldn't have to do it like this but dummies learn sloooowly.
Posted by: Dang at February 08, 2017 04:33 PM (8b+oT)
160
Watching SC Senator Tim Scott talking favorably about Sen. Jeff Sessions on C-Span 2
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2017 04:33 PM (Frvrc)
161
You don't unwind a law that touches 1/5 of the
economy with a simple repeal order unless you want absolute chaos and to
see the Republicans get absolutely slaughtered in 2018.
Posted by: JackStraw
Then let the law sunset in a year and then allow the Insurance industry to whip out and dust off all their old policies. PLUS, end the monopoly and allow sales across state lines to drive competition and lower costs.
We're not talking about rebuilding dismantled factories and assembly lines. It's pixels and paper.
economy with a simple repeal order unless you want absolute chaos and to
see the Republicans get absolutely slaughtered in 2018.
Posted by: JackStraw
Then let the law sunset in a year and then allow the Insurance industry to whip out and dust off all their old policies. PLUS, end the monopoly and allow sales across state lines to drive competition and lower costs.
We're not talking about rebuilding dismantled factories and assembly lines. It's pixels and paper.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:34 PM (mbhDw)
162
Gorsuch is literally Hitler.
No, really!
The Stonecutters kept Hitler's brain in a jar and transplanted it into Gorsuch's head as part of a decades long plot to do Nazi stuff!!1!
No, really!
The Stonecutters kept Hitler's brain in a jar and transplanted it into Gorsuch's head as part of a decades long plot to do Nazi stuff!!1!
Posted by: Random Democrat Senator at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (OzJeO)
Posted by: Cher on Twitter at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (nlbfN)
164
>>Meanwhile, those of us paying for our health insurance keep getting slaughtered every 4 weeks in premiums.
I'm well aware. I just paid my $700 premium yesterday.
Democrats good crushed for implementing a law pretty much everyone hates. I'd like to see us not repeat that mistake and have Nancy Pelosi grab the giant gavel again.
I'm well aware. I just paid my $700 premium yesterday.
Democrats good crushed for implementing a law pretty much everyone hates. I'd like to see us not repeat that mistake and have Nancy Pelosi grab the giant gavel again.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (/tuJf)
165
"'Climate change poses an unacceptable risk to our climate and to our economy,' Paulson said in a statement."
George W. Bush's selection of Paulson was instrumental in having what should have been a minor and manageable financial flap in 2008 run completely out of control, become a major crisis, and ensure the election of Barack Obama that year.
Paulson got his own overlevered, recklessly speculated firm bailed out at public expense during the manufactured "crisis", and he's a billionaire today because of it. The rest of us got stuck with 8 years of Prince Chooming.
George W. Bush's selection of Paulson was instrumental in having what should have been a minor and manageable financial flap in 2008 run completely out of control, become a major crisis, and ensure the election of Barack Obama that year.
Paulson got his own overlevered, recklessly speculated firm bailed out at public expense during the manufactured "crisis", and he's a billionaire today because of it. The rest of us got stuck with 8 years of Prince Chooming.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (noWW6)
166
@110 . . . Paulson was Treasury Sec. when the financial world blew up in 2008. He is now an environmental justice warrior and is dragging the two very elderly statesman around with him because it would be unseemly to be dragging HW Bush in his wheelchair.
Posted by: Jen
________
Paulson was the dick who wouldn't let anyone out of the room until everyone agreed that the U.S. government should bail out the big banks and brokerages. And his retirement savings.
You're welcome, Hank. Now suck it.
Posted by: Jen
________
Paulson was the dick who wouldn't let anyone out of the room until everyone agreed that the U.S. government should bail out the big banks and brokerages. And his retirement savings.
You're welcome, Hank. Now suck it.
Posted by: Furious George at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (77i7V)
167
I just knew Jacstraw was a GOPe mouthpiece . I knew it I knew it I knew it. All that talk about sailboats was the dead giveaway. Damn country club RINO.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (N96yY)
168
So roll out a competing plan and let blue states keep Obamacare if they want to see all the higher premiums take more and more out of their wallets. That's a win/win. Ease the red state's burden and let the blue state's screaming get louder and louder. It will. Then they will see the repeal as their salvation, because right now they wouldn't. If everyone in the US were at least semi-smart, we wouldn't have to do it like this but dummies learn sloooowly.
Posted by: Dang
If a state wants to try their hand at socialized medicine, nothing is stopping them, but I don't want to "leave" ObamaCare in place for blue states to dabble with since it's federal law and put taxpayers on the hook.
I want it destroyed.
Posted by: Dang
If a state wants to try their hand at socialized medicine, nothing is stopping them, but I don't want to "leave" ObamaCare in place for blue states to dabble with since it's federal law and put taxpayers on the hook.
I want it destroyed.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (DWmPO)
169
Dude, love ya, buddy, but it's this simple.
A) The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 is hereby repealed.
exactly...
1 - none of the requirements of the ACA will be enforced from this day forward.
2 - All existing policies shall remain in force until they expire. usually at end of year
3 - Upon such time as you may purchase any policy of your choice.
Left not really concerned about the minority of individuals who are actually paying for individual policies.
They are worried that the expanded Medicaid gravy train comes to a halt
A) The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 is hereby repealed.
exactly...
1 - none of the requirements of the ACA will be enforced from this day forward.
2 - All existing policies shall remain in force until they expire. usually at end of year
3 - Upon such time as you may purchase any policy of your choice.
Left not really concerned about the minority of individuals who are actually paying for individual policies.
They are worried that the expanded Medicaid gravy train comes to a halt
Posted by: McCool at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (lWCRE)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (8iiMU)
171
159 You don't unwind a law that touches 1/5 of the
economy with a simple repeal order unless you want absolute chaos and to
see the Republicans get absolutely slaughtered in 2018.
Probably 90% of those people are dims. You're not thinking of all the people who will be grateful for getting rid of the sucker
economy with a simple repeal order unless you want absolute chaos and to
see the Republicans get absolutely slaughtered in 2018.
Probably 90% of those people are dims. You're not thinking of all the people who will be grateful for getting rid of the sucker
Posted by: nsirchov at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (BGUo0)
172
AtC: "You know what? I would love to get back to a time when a Supreme Court justice could be voted in 98-0, you know, like Scalia was. I would love to get back to a time when Supreme Court justices were not a make or break situation.
You know, because I would love to get back to a time when the Supreme Court didn't act like a super legislature and oh look my eye is twitching again argh"
As I've been saying. This.
If the judiciary's role were within its constitutional parameters, these appointments would be far less important.
You know, because I would love to get back to a time when the Supreme Court didn't act like a super legislature and oh look my eye is twitching again argh"
As I've been saying. This.
If the judiciary's role were within its constitutional parameters, these appointments would be far less important.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (QDnY+)
173
166 Paulson was the dick who wouldn't let anyone out of the room until everyone agreed that the U.S. government should bail out the big banks and brokerages. And his retirement savings.
You're welcome, Hank. Now suck it.
Posted by: Furious George at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (77i7V)
Paulson did the Luca Brasi to all the banks and forced them to accept the terms of the bank bailout.
Fuck him with a pineapple.
You're welcome, Hank. Now suck it.
Posted by: Furious George at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (77i7V)
Paulson did the Luca Brasi to all the banks and forced them to accept the terms of the bank bailout.
Fuck him with a pineapple.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:36 PM (mbhDw)
174
A) The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 is hereby repealed.
B) We go back in time to when it was passed.
C) A market is created where the insurance industry can now sell whatever products they want without the consequences of PPACA.
D) People rush in to buy new (old) policies.
E) Sweeten the deal with no more in-state monopolies and allow sales across state lines.
F) Profit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (mbhDw)
This.
Repeal is neither rocket science nor brain surgery.
B) We go back in time to when it was passed.
C) A market is created where the insurance industry can now sell whatever products they want without the consequences of PPACA.
D) People rush in to buy new (old) policies.
E) Sweeten the deal with no more in-state monopolies and allow sales across state lines.
F) Profit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (mbhDw)
This.
Repeal is neither rocket science nor brain surgery.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2017 04:36 PM (FTXAT)
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What I meant to say is the Democrat senators want the NEXT more controversial judicial pick to be the one that is confirmed via nuclear option. If it's already done with Goresuch (as it should be) then there would be precedent. They want to play into the fantasy's of their base that this is a moment of constitutional crisis, and: time to riot!
Posted by: Max Power at February 08, 2017 04:37 PM (q177U)
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Paulson got his own overlevered, recklessly speculated firm bailed out at public expense during the manufactured "crisis", and he's a billionaire today because of it. The rest of us got stuck with 8 years of Prince Chooming.
Posted by: torquewrench
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What's "funny" is we were told if TARP didn't pass, it would be economic calamity.
So Republicans passed TARP and unemployment more than doubled and went over 10%.
These financial firms and auto companies should have been put under, but Bush didn't want it "on his watch"
Posted by: torquewrench
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What's "funny" is we were told if TARP didn't pass, it would be economic calamity.
So Republicans passed TARP and unemployment more than doubled and went over 10%.
These financial firms and auto companies should have been put under, but Bush didn't want it "on his watch"
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:37 PM (DWmPO)
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E) Sweeten the deal with no more in-state monopolies and allow sales across state lines.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (mbhDw)
Especially this.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:29 PM (mbhDw)
Especially this.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:37 PM (a0IVu)
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Tim Scott up now.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at February 08, 2017 04:38 PM (X+nFp)
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Has Trump said-
"Bring me the head of Katy Tur."
yet?
Cuz I don't want to miss out on that...
I denounce myself.
"Bring me the head of Katy Tur."
yet?
Cuz I don't want to miss out on that...
I denounce myself.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 08, 2017 04:38 PM (vZ9Fw)
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This.
Repeal is neither rocket science nor brain surgery.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2017 04:36 PM (FTXAT)
As I said a bit earlier, reinstating pieces of paper is as easy as retrieving files on a server and starting new ad campaigns.
We're not retooling factories and assembly lines here. It IS this simple. Just allow enough time for a transition period.
Then let THE FREE MARKET do its thing.
This.
Repeal is neither rocket science nor brain surgery.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2017 04:36 PM (FTXAT)
As I said a bit earlier, reinstating pieces of paper is as easy as retrieving files on a server and starting new ad campaigns.
We're not retooling factories and assembly lines here. It IS this simple. Just allow enough time for a transition period.
Then let THE FREE MARKET do its thing.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:38 PM (mbhDw)
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I hope whatever replaces the ACA has some provisions for tort reform in it.
But, I doubt it will, because, lawyers.
But, I doubt it will, because, lawyers.
Posted by: navybrat at February 08, 2017 04:39 PM (w7KSn)
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Private profits but socialized risk is what makes my private balance sheet great. Winning!
Posted by: Hank Paulson at February 08, 2017 04:39 PM (77i7V)
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Oh good grief.
Guy Benson slamming the GOP for bringing the hammer down on Fauxhacontas on FBN.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (8iiMU)
Is he wearing his pussy hat?
Guy Benson slamming the GOP for bringing the hammer down on Fauxhacontas on FBN.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (8iiMU)
Is he wearing his pussy hat?
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2017 04:39 PM (tewYv)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:40 PM (8iiMU)
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As I've been saying. This.
If the judiciary's role were within its constitutional parameters, these appointments would be far less important.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (QDnY+)
Every June, 310 million people hold their breath to see how nine of them in black robes will decide how they will live from then on with no recourse.
TERM LIMITS FOR ALL JUDGES.
As I've been saying. This.
If the judiciary's role were within its constitutional parameters, these appointments would be far less important.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (QDnY+)
Every June, 310 million people hold their breath to see how nine of them in black robes will decide how they will live from then on with no recourse.
TERM LIMITS FOR ALL JUDGES.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:40 PM (mbhDw)
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What they, Democrats, say is "just words" and are said not to proclaim any fact any more than polls are done to portray something factual. They are said to reinforce a narrative, to make 'real" the ghosts that rattle in their heads.
Actions are the only thing which say anything close to a truth and even there they will make them lie too when they can and need to. Liars lie, it's what they do.
Actions are the only thing which say anything close to a truth and even there they will make them lie too when they can and need to. Liars lie, it's what they do.
Posted by: geoffb5 at February 08, 2017 04:40 PM (d3wbb)
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Dingo Gorsuch at my baby!
Posted by: Random Democrat Senator at February 08, 2017 04:40 PM (OzJeO)
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All you losers who decided you'd rather have HBO instead of health insurance? Merry Christmas. You get to keep your welfare, leeches,but you only get to use urgent cares unless they refer to the emergency room.
The rest of you can buy insurance if you want to, and you can buy it from anywhere. And if you choose to not to buy insurance, the doctor will set up a payment plan just like your car, house, and crappy furniture from Rooms to Go.
Oh, and you can get a $50 catastrophic plan with a high deductible again, which is what most of you should have anyway.
The rest of you can buy insurance if you want to, and you can buy it from anywhere. And if you choose to not to buy insurance, the doctor will set up a payment plan just like your car, house, and crappy furniture from Rooms to Go.
Oh, and you can get a $50 catastrophic plan with a high deductible again, which is what most of you should have anyway.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 08, 2017 04:41 PM (/f1mm)
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Guy Benson slamming the GOP for bringing the hammer down on Fauxhacontas on FBN.
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WAR ON WOMEN!!!!!!!
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WAR ON WOMEN!!!!!!!
Posted by: Methos at February 08, 2017 04:41 PM (3Liv/)
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184 Is anyone else tired of the spokes-kid on the Shriners commercial?
Should I denounce myself?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:40 PM (8iiMU)
I'm tired of the Hearst heiress telling us to phone Congress and demand Cosmo be put in a plain brown wrapper. Hey toots, if it's so offensive stop publishing it.
Sheesh.
Should I denounce myself?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:40 PM (8iiMU)
I'm tired of the Hearst heiress telling us to phone Congress and demand Cosmo be put in a plain brown wrapper. Hey toots, if it's so offensive stop publishing it.
Sheesh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:41 PM (mbhDw)
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Oh good grief.
Guy Benson slamming the GOP for bringing the hammer down on Fauxhacontas on FBN.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
Benson should really learn to listen to his Betters.
Guy Benson slamming the GOP for bringing the hammer down on Fauxhacontas on FBN.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
Benson should really learn to listen to his Betters.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2017 04:41 PM (4YGWz)
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Rush was playing what Fauxcahontas was speaking, it is over the top saying very damaging words with no backing or facts as they are on a stage with every word recorded. That Harry Reid stood up in the same room and said total crap about Mittens and totally got away with is practically criminal.
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2017 04:42 PM (Frvrc)
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I think he may be holding up his official First Trump Criticism for the next Supreme Court pick.
I doubt he has the self-discipline to wait that long. It'll be something on behalf of Muslims or BLM or similar that will set him off, and it won't be long. Perhaps related to something the Sessions DOJ does.
The DOJ has always been Ground Zero for Obama in terms of exercising real power.
I doubt he has the self-discipline to wait that long. It'll be something on behalf of Muslims or BLM or similar that will set him off, and it won't be long. Perhaps related to something the Sessions DOJ does.
The DOJ has always been Ground Zero for Obama in terms of exercising real power.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at February 08, 2017 04:42 PM (hA1V+)
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"Paulson got his own overlevered, recklessly speculated firm bailed out at public expense during the manufactured "crisis", and he's a billionaire today because of it."
Goldman took advantage of the crisis in 2007 and 2008, but then found that the Wolf came to their door. Goldman was days away from failing in the fall of 2008 but got a bailout denied to the likes of Bear Stearns and Lehman. CEO Blankfein should have been left with nothing to wear but a barrel.
Goldman took advantage of the crisis in 2007 and 2008, but then found that the Wolf came to their door. Goldman was days away from failing in the fall of 2008 but got a bailout denied to the likes of Bear Stearns and Lehman. CEO Blankfein should have been left with nothing to wear but a barrel.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:42 PM (SIY7D)
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I like democrats a lot. I know they are the enemy and they act like the enemy. They are dependable that way. Republicans are tricky though, kinda like moslems, what with the lying and all.
Posted by: Eromero at February 08, 2017 04:42 PM (zLDYs)
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If the judiciary's role were within its constitutional parameters, these appointments would be far less important.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (QDnY+)
Every June, 310 million people hold their breath to see how nine of them in black robes will decide how they will live from then on with no recourse.
TERM LIMITS FOR ALL JUDGES.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Yea, and true federalism would mean people wouldn't get so upset over who won the WH.
The Supreme Court used to be where like railroad disputes between states went to get decided, not the morality of the nation.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 08, 2017 04:35 PM (QDnY+)
Every June, 310 million people hold their breath to see how nine of them in black robes will decide how they will live from then on with no recourse.
TERM LIMITS FOR ALL JUDGES.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Yea, and true federalism would mean people wouldn't get so upset over who won the WH.
The Supreme Court used to be where like railroad disputes between states went to get decided, not the morality of the nation.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:42 PM (DWmPO)
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>>Probably 90% of those people are dims. You're not thinking of all the people who will be grateful for getting rid of the sucker
What about Trump saying any new law will include pre-existing conditions, will allow young people to stay on their parents insurance and will cover every single person in the country? You know he said these things, right?
So let's stop pretending that the House can just repeal the law. They have to include Trump's new promises. They have to have a program that goes beyond what we used to have to include things like insurance across state lines. They have to have a head of the HHS and a head of Medicare because Obamacare is inextricably and intentionally intertwined with it. Neither of these people are in office now. There are a shitload of moving pieces.
Even if it was repealed yesterday, your insurance is not going to change until next year. THat's how insurance works. It's not month to month it is priced annually. Insurance companies are going to need months to understand the new normal and build new offerings. None of this happens overnight.
Damn, it's been 2 1/2 weeks. Chillax for a bit and let's see what happens.
What about Trump saying any new law will include pre-existing conditions, will allow young people to stay on their parents insurance and will cover every single person in the country? You know he said these things, right?
So let's stop pretending that the House can just repeal the law. They have to include Trump's new promises. They have to have a program that goes beyond what we used to have to include things like insurance across state lines. They have to have a head of the HHS and a head of Medicare because Obamacare is inextricably and intentionally intertwined with it. Neither of these people are in office now. There are a shitload of moving pieces.
Even if it was repealed yesterday, your insurance is not going to change until next year. THat's how insurance works. It's not month to month it is priced annually. Insurance companies are going to need months to understand the new normal and build new offerings. None of this happens overnight.
Damn, it's been 2 1/2 weeks. Chillax for a bit and let's see what happens.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 04:43 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2017 04:43 PM (tewYv)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 08, 2017 04:43 PM (ODxAs)
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https://market-ticker.org/
Repeal, Replace, Repair, Reform - probably not going to matter.
Karl's nutz about jailing people but he's right about the math.
Repeal, Replace, Repair, Reform - probably not going to matter.
Karl's nutz about jailing people but he's right about the math.
Posted by: DaveA at February 08, 2017 04:43 PM (8J/Te)
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The Dems would be smart to avoid a big fight on Gorsuch since he's basically replacing another conservative. They can grumble but pass him, claiming the high ground while preparing for World War III, IV and V when Trump nominates another conservative to replace that doddering crone Ginsburg. But, as we have seen, Dems are not smart. Like teenagers, they're ruled by their emotions and lack the ability to comprehend the long-term consequences of their actions.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 08, 2017 04:44 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2017 04:44 PM (8eSWI)
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Sure is awesome watching these inbred blowhard fcuks thwart the will of We the People because hemorrhoids and pork.
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 08, 2017 04:44 PM (zFfEh)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 04:45 PM (buBai)
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If this means Elizabeth Warren becomes a martyr and propels her into the 2020 Dem nomination, what can I do to help?
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:45 PM (DWmPO)
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The only thing that can replace government run anything is the free market. Unhindered and unleashed as much as practicable.
The only thing that can replace government run anything is the free market. Unhindered and unleashed as much as practicable.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:46 PM (mbhDw)
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Saying his and another CoS are the only 2 African Americans in the entire Senate and are Republicans, and how both and him are ostracized by Leftists for not being part of the group speak.
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2017 04:46 PM (Frvrc)
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Tort reform.
Allow catastrophic-only policies, and promote the cash model for every day expenses.
Stop the FDA from protecting the drug industry and let more generics get through.
Allow catastrophic-only policies, and promote the cash model for every day expenses.
Stop the FDA from protecting the drug industry and let more generics get through.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 08, 2017 04:46 PM (oVJmc)
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Email from the White House....
I was hoping for "Bombing the Democrats begins in 5 minutes" but no such luck. Bragging about Intel bringing 10,000 jobs to AZ.
I was hoping for "Bombing the Democrats begins in 5 minutes" but no such luck. Bragging about Intel bringing 10,000 jobs to AZ.
Posted by: Mathers at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (3myMJ)
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The ACA won't be repealed. Its name will be changed. That is all.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (97XyN)
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Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) will cane that yankee on the senate floor.
Posted by: Eromero at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (zLDYs)
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All they gotta do is keep everyone who is enrolled in Obamacare enrolled until their plan expires or it's replaced by TrumpCare ("The Classiest, most Luxurious Health Care"), whichever comes first.
Trump wins because he kept his campaign promise and also didn't 'throw everybody off" health insurance.
Let's see the Left and media demagogue THAT....
Trump wins because he kept his campaign promise and also didn't 'throw everybody off" health insurance.
Let's see the Left and media demagogue THAT....
Posted by: JoeF. at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (7uYFy)
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Explosion on Paris metro currently thought to be electrical fire. Or a burrito lunch. Either/or.
A splodey dope not currently suspected.
Explosion on Paris metro currently thought to be electrical fire. Or a burrito lunch. Either/or.
A splodey dope not currently suspected.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (ODxAs)
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205 If this means Elizabeth Warren becomes a martyr and propels her into the 2020 Dem nomination, what can I do to help?
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:45 PM (DWmPO)
Her high pitched warbling is even more grating than Hillary Clinton who, by the way, will never be President of the United States of America.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:45 PM (DWmPO)
Her high pitched warbling is even more grating than Hillary Clinton who, by the way, will never be President of the United States of America.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (mbhDw)
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Tim Scott doing nice job on the Senate floor. Reading the racist emails he's received from so called "liberals".
Posted by: WisRich at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (hdpay)
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"Bring me the head of Katy Tur."
See ... I would have worded that just a wee bit differently.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 04:45 PM (buBai)
Indeed. She is a One with two nice 'uns.
"Bring me the head of Katy Tur."
See ... I would have worded that just a wee bit differently.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 04:45 PM (buBai)
Indeed. She is a One with two nice 'uns.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (SIY7D)
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It's disturbing to hear Tim Scott reading all the tweets his office has received from tolerant loving African American leftists and other leftists who call him house negro for supporting Jeff Sessions.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (fDdVG)
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The title under Senator Tim Scott says its the nomination not vote.
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (Frvrc)
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210 The ACA won't be repealed. Its name will be changed. That is all.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (97XyN)
Oh, great. $700/month and climbing but at least I can sleep nights. Oh joy.
210 The ACA won't be repealed. Its name will be changed. That is all.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (97XyN)
Oh, great. $700/month and climbing but at least I can sleep nights. Oh joy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (mbhDw)
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Am I missing anything by not knowing who Katy Tur is?
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (Sfs6o)
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>>>If this means Elizabeth Warren becomes a martyr
What a low bar we have set for martyrs these days.
What a low bar we have set for martyrs these days.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (ppaKI)
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Shapiro in a twist about Warren too
Purity Party
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2017 04:44 PM (8eSWI)
Is he in a twist about her lying (actually, repeating Chappaquiddick Ted and Coretta Scott King's lies) or about McConnell slapping her down for those lies?
Purity Party
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2017 04:44 PM (8eSWI)
Is he in a twist about her lying (actually, repeating Chappaquiddick Ted and Coretta Scott King's lies) or about McConnell slapping her down for those lies?
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2017 04:49 PM (FTXAT)
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218 It's disturbing to hear Tim Scott reading all the tweets his office has received from tolerant loving African American leftists and other leftists who call him house negro for supporting Jeff Sessions.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (fDdVG)
He Tweeted back: "Senate."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (fDdVG)
He Tweeted back: "Senate."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:49 PM (mbhDw)
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Damn, it's been 2 1/2 weeks. Chillax for a bit and let's see what happens.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 04:43 PM (/tuJf)
Fvck that logic shit.
Where's my national concealed carry permit?
Where are the trains running 24hrs/day deporting grandmothers?
Where is the wall with moats and sharks with frickin' laser beams?
Why haven't we had a nuclear war yet?
This is all crap.
I was lied to.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 04:43 PM (/tuJf)
Fvck that logic shit.
Where's my national concealed carry permit?
Where are the trains running 24hrs/day deporting grandmothers?
Where is the wall with moats and sharks with frickin' laser beams?
Why haven't we had a nuclear war yet?
This is all crap.
I was lied to.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2017 04:49 PM (rF0hx)
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The only thing that can replace government run anything is the free market. Unhindered and unleashed as much as practicable.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:46 PM (mbhDw)
Bingo. Its just so tough to explain to Libtards that dont get basic economics and basic math. And then theres them calling me a capitalist, nazi while I'm talking that gets kinda annoying.
The only thing that can replace government run anything is the free market. Unhindered and unleashed as much as practicable.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:46 PM (mbhDw)
Bingo. Its just so tough to explain to Libtards that dont get basic economics and basic math. And then theres them calling me a capitalist, nazi while I'm talking that gets kinda annoying.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 08, 2017 04:49 PM (BB1en)
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221 Am I missing anything by not knowing who Katy Tur is?
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (Sfs6o)
The new Cuntessa Brewer.
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (Sfs6o)
The new Cuntessa Brewer.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (mbhDw)
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218
It's disturbing to hear Tim Scott reading all the tweets his office has
received from tolerant loving African American leftists and other
leftists who call him house negro for supporting Jeff Sessions.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (fDdVG)
Yeah. He is a good man. These lefties are turds.
It's disturbing to hear Tim Scott reading all the tweets his office has
received from tolerant loving African American leftists and other
leftists who call him house negro for supporting Jeff Sessions.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (fDdVG)
Yeah. He is a good man. These lefties are turds.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: no good deed at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (hJamr)
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Cavuto has not been very helpful in the fight lately. I would send him to the camps.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (6LwXe)
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221: NO, there's one in every bar at closing.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (KP5rU)
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:49 PM (mbhDw)
Yes; I saw that. It was funny and clever but it must get tiresome to get attacked on Twitter all the time
Yes; I saw that. It was funny and clever but it must get tiresome to get attacked on Twitter all the time
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (fDdVG)
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https://market-ticker.org/
Repeal, Replace, Repair, Reform - probably not going to matter.
Karl's nutz about jailing people but he's right about the math.
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This. It would be helpful if people stopped talking about the price of health insurance, which is a deliberate sleight of hand on the government's part, and talk instead about the ridiculous pricing going in in health care itself.
The insurance cost is of course just the sum the product of covered events times their probability, plus profit for the insurance company. That last part isn't the driver, but it's the only thing the company can adjust.
One of the main things that needs to happen is to allow drug reimportation so that we're not paying more for a drug than Mexico or Germany is. For example.
https://market-ticker.org/
Repeal, Replace, Repair, Reform - probably not going to matter.
Karl's nutz about jailing people but he's right about the math.
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This. It would be helpful if people stopped talking about the price of health insurance, which is a deliberate sleight of hand on the government's part, and talk instead about the ridiculous pricing going in in health care itself.
The insurance cost is of course just the sum the product of covered events times their probability, plus profit for the insurance company. That last part isn't the driver, but it's the only thing the company can adjust.
One of the main things that needs to happen is to allow drug reimportation so that we're not paying more for a drug than Mexico or Germany is. For example.
Posted by: Methos at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (3Liv/)
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Indeed. She is a One with two nice 'uns.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (8iiMU)
Indeed.
Always good to meet a fellow Brother of the One True Scale.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:47 PM (8iiMU)
Indeed.
Always good to meet a fellow Brother of the One True Scale.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (buBai)
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I said the other day I thought the Dems were keeping their powder dry for the next appointment. I guess we shall see.
Posted by: no good deed at February 08, 2017 04:51 PM (hJamr)
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232 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:49 PM (mbhDw)
Yes; I saw that. It was funny and clever but it must get tiresome to get attacked on Twitter all the time
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (fDdVG)
If one pays attention to it, yeah, I guess it is.
Yes; I saw that. It was funny and clever but it must get tiresome to get attacked on Twitter all the time
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (fDdVG)
If one pays attention to it, yeah, I guess it is.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:51 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 08, 2017 04:51 PM (oVJmc)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2017 04:49 PM (rF0hx)
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I was just thinking at this rate, the libtards should self - destruct in just a few more weeks.
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I was just thinking at this rate, the libtards should self - destruct in just a few more weeks.
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 04:51 PM (Sfs6o)
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228 These lefties are turds.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (a0IVu)
Turs. The "d" is silent.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (a0IVu)
Turs. The "d" is silent.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (mbhDw)
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Where's my national concealed carry permit?
Where are the trains running 24hrs/day deporting grandmothers?
Where is the wall with moats and sharks with frickin' laser beams?
Why haven't we had a nuclear war yet?
This is all crap.
I was lied to.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2017 04:49 PM (rF0hx)
Damn, sharks! Was that in the platform CBD? This just gets better and better...but youre right, chop chop!!!! We're waiting!
Where's my national concealed carry permit?
Where are the trains running 24hrs/day deporting grandmothers?
Where is the wall with moats and sharks with frickin' laser beams?
Why haven't we had a nuclear war yet?
This is all crap.
I was lied to.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2017 04:49 PM (rF0hx)
Damn, sharks! Was that in the platform CBD? This just gets better and better...but youre right, chop chop!!!! We're waiting!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (BB1en)
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"221 Am I missing anything by not knowing who Katy Tur is?
Posted by: Weasel"
Not really, but a Google Image search might be enjoyable.
Posted by: Weasel"
Not really, but a Google Image search might be enjoyable.
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (OD2ni)
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There is no Scalia seat, nor a Ginsburg seat.
They're all Scalia seats from now on.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (SIY7D)
All your seats are belong to us
They're all Scalia seats from now on.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:48 PM (SIY7D)
All your seats are belong to us
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (493sH)
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Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (a0IVu)
Libtards are the REAL racists because no minority group can do anything without Good Libtards in Gubment evening the playing filed for them
Libtards are the REAL racists because no minority group can do anything without Good Libtards in Gubment evening the playing filed for them
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (y3aQB)
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I was just thinking at this rate, the libtards should self - destruct in just a few more weeks.
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 04:51 PM (Sfs6o)
The only thing keeping them on life support is the GOP-e. And that is their job.
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I was just thinking at this rate, the libtards should self - destruct in just a few more weeks.
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 04:51 PM (Sfs6o)
The only thing keeping them on life support is the GOP-e. And that is their job.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (mbhDw)
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Am I missing anything by not knowing who Katy Tur is?
I checked, no bikini pics out there, so, no.
I checked, no bikini pics out there, so, no.
Posted by: typical disgusting Moron at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (+INtM)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 04:53 PM (buBai)
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Where's my national concealed carry permit?
That's the last thing you want. For what the government gives, the government can take away.
You want reciprocal carry. But not a national permit.
That's the last thing you want. For what the government gives, the government can take away.
You want reciprocal carry. But not a national permit.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 04:53 PM (2w7OO)
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242
All your seats are belong to us
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (493sH)
That's gotta be a line from a gladiator movie.
All your seats are belong to us
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (493sH)
That's gotta be a line from a gladiator movie.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:53 PM (mbhDw)
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Trump would say that Katy Tur is a solid 7.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (SIY7D)
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One of the main things that needs to happen is to allow drug reimportation so that we're not paying more for a drug than Mexico or Germany is. For example.
Posted by: Methos
I've never really understood the TruCon objection to this, basically we're supposed to let the world get dirt cheap drugs on the backs of Americans paying through the nose.
Surely something can be crafted to where Big Pharma can't price the same drug 100,000% higher for Americans than Europeans.
One of the main things that needs to happen is to allow drug reimportation so that we're not paying more for a drug than Mexico or Germany is. For example.
Posted by: Methos
I've never really understood the TruCon objection to this, basically we're supposed to let the world get dirt cheap drugs on the backs of Americans paying through the nose.
Surely something can be crafted to where Big Pharma can't price the same drug 100,000% higher for Americans than Europeans.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (DWmPO)
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (zFfEh)
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245 No,but there are Pam Geller bikini pucs out there.
Posted by: steevy at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (r/0kC)
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the libtards should self - destruct in just a few more weeks.
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 04:51 PM (Sfs6o)
They are all such humorless scolds....their home lives must be miserable?
Maybe there will be a drop-off in births because they are so unhappy they just can't screw, and the nation will be one step closer to sanity in about 18 years.
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 04:51 PM (Sfs6o)
They are all such humorless scolds....their home lives must be miserable?
Maybe there will be a drop-off in births because they are so unhappy they just can't screw, and the nation will be one step closer to sanity in about 18 years.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (rF0hx)
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Yep a 3 line bill would do it for obamacare.
ACA is hereby repealed.
All current health insurance polices will remain in effect at consumers' choice until expiration date.
All healthcare insurance companies can sell new policies nationwide.
And done. This gives congress 9 months to a year to find a solution for pre-existing conditions, which many states already have btw.
Yep a 3 line bill would do it for obamacare.
ACA is hereby repealed.
All current health insurance polices will remain in effect at consumers' choice until expiration date.
All healthcare insurance companies can sell new policies nationwide.
And done. This gives congress 9 months to a year to find a solution for pre-existing conditions, which many states already have btw.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (ODxAs)
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Trump would say that Katy Tur is a solid 7.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (SIY7D)
Ouch. She probably thinks she is a 9.
Trump would say that Katy Tur is a solid 7.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (SIY7D)
Ouch. She probably thinks she is a 9.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (a0IVu)
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Katy Tur is worth a look. Just not a listen.
Looks Like a Guy in the face with a Nice rack & less than no brains
Looks Like a Guy in the face with a Nice rack & less than no brains
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (zFfEh)
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O/T.... but something struck me this morning as I watched the Presidential Press Brief...
One Lady was talking about what Martin Luther King's daughter said about Sessions..
And it struck me... her only claim to fame is that she lost a famous father... that she was a Victim...
Yes, its tragic she lost her Father, but how does that give her MORE influence?
Why do we celebrate Victims?
Victims are by definition, someone who something happened to... sometimes their own fault, sometimes the fault of others.... but their only strength is that they Lost.
Which leads to, why do we allow LOSERS to have more influence on us, than those who DON'T lose?
Why do allow the Weak, to use their very weakness, to overpower the strong?
And can a Society that celebrates being a Victim... ie being a loser... survive in this Darwinian World?
One Lady was talking about what Martin Luther King's daughter said about Sessions..
And it struck me... her only claim to fame is that she lost a famous father... that she was a Victim...
Yes, its tragic she lost her Father, but how does that give her MORE influence?
Why do we celebrate Victims?
Victims are by definition, someone who something happened to... sometimes their own fault, sometimes the fault of others.... but their only strength is that they Lost.
Which leads to, why do we allow LOSERS to have more influence on us, than those who DON'T lose?
Why do allow the Weak, to use their very weakness, to overpower the strong?
And can a Society that celebrates being a Victim... ie being a loser... survive in this Darwinian World?
Posted by: Don Q. at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (qf6WZ)
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If one pays attention to it, yeah, I guess it is.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
The correct response is from Casablanca:
Peter Lorre: "you despise me, don't you"
Humphrey Bogart: "If I gave you any thought, I probably would".
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
The correct response is from Casablanca:
Peter Lorre: "you despise me, don't you"
Humphrey Bogart: "If I gave you any thought, I probably would".
Posted by: pep at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 04:56 PM (buBai)
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'Sup, Scogg! Just mostly working. ALL my shootin' buds are in Phoenix this week for the Berger matches. I'm a little bummed, but just knew I was going to have too much going on at work to get away. Oh well.
I'm still thinking about a trip to Camp Atterbury this summer!
I'm still thinking about a trip to Camp Atterbury this summer!
Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2017 04:56 PM (Sfs6o)
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It's not a "Muslim ban", Ace. Stop promoting the other side's false narrative.
Posted by: jbspry at February 08, 2017 04:56 PM (4kpbt)
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>>One of the main things that needs to happen is to allow drug reimportation so that we're not paying more for a drug than Mexico or Germany is. For example.
Trump back negotiating drug prices under Medicare.
http://tinyurl.com/jdo9dmj
Trump sinks pharma stocks on Medicare drug price negotiations.
http://tinyurl.com/z5tecy8
Trump back negotiating drug prices under Medicare.
http://tinyurl.com/jdo9dmj
Trump sinks pharma stocks on Medicare drug price negotiations.
http://tinyurl.com/z5tecy8
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 04:57 PM (/tuJf)
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probably already covered this
Pres Trump tweeted this morning:
My daughter Ivanka has been treated so unfairly by @Nordstrom. She is a great person -- always pushing me to do the right thing! Terrible!
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it would be karma if the Left manages to turn Ivanka fully conservative
Pres Trump tweeted this morning:
My daughter Ivanka has been treated so unfairly by @Nordstrom. She is a great person -- always pushing me to do the right thing! Terrible!
==
it would be karma if the Left manages to turn Ivanka fully conservative
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 08, 2017 04:57 PM (Om16U)
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You want reciprocal carry. But not a national permit.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 04:53 PM (2w7OO)
Explain how I will be able to exercise my rights in the state of NJ with reciprocity?
In this case, against all of my better judgement, I want the federal government to come smashing down on the fascists in Trenton.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 04:53 PM (2w7OO)
Explain how I will be able to exercise my rights in the state of NJ with reciprocity?
In this case, against all of my better judgement, I want the federal government to come smashing down on the fascists in Trenton.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2017 04:57 PM (rF0hx)
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239 228 These lefties are turds.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (a0IVu)
Turs. The "d" is silent.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (mbhDw)
But its still Katy Turd. The D is invisible.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:50 PM (a0IVu)
Turs. The "d" is silent.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:52 PM (mbhDw)
But its still Katy Turd. The D is invisible.
Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2017 04:57 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 08, 2017 04:57 PM (N96yY)
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Trump would say that Katy Tur is a solid 7.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (SIY7D)
Ouch. She probably thinks she is a 9.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (a0IVu)
I'd give her a strong five ... if I ever got the chance.
Trump would say that Katy Tur is a solid 7.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (SIY7D)
Ouch. She probably thinks she is a 9.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (a0IVu)
I'd give her a strong five ... if I ever got the chance.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 04:58 PM (buBai)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 08, 2017 04:58 PM (J+eG2)
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Tur is 6'3"?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 08, 2017 04:57 PM (N96yY)
If that's what it says.
Tur is 6'3"?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 08, 2017 04:57 PM (N96yY)
If that's what it says.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:58 PM (mbhDw)
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Big Pharma can't price the same drug 100,000% higher for Americans than Europeans.
Read Karl, it's already illegal we just don't enforce it.
and get this Rand Paul's mods legalize the exception rather than fix it.
Read Karl, it's already illegal we just don't enforce it.
and get this Rand Paul's mods legalize the exception rather than fix it.
Posted by: DaveA at February 08, 2017 04:58 PM (8J/Te)
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Looks Like a Guy in the face with a Nice rack less than no brains
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (y3aQB)
Except for the first four words, your point is?
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (y3aQB)
Except for the first four words, your point is?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:58 PM (8iiMU)
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Status: Definitely bag-able.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (mbhDw)
Put American Flag over her face & Fuck her for old Glory
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (mbhDw)
Put American Flag over her face & Fuck her for old Glory
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 04:58 PM (y3aQB)
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ibid comment 107.
Posted by: Marooned at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (KdYVH)
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I think Sessions' replacement will be AL Atty Gen Luther Strange.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (97XyN)
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"256 Katy Tur is worth a look. Just not a listen.
Looks Like a Guy in the face with a Nice rack & less than no brains"
Its in my contract that the A/C in the studio be set at 62.
Looks Like a Guy in the face with a Nice rack & less than no brains"
Its in my contract that the A/C in the studio be set at 62.
Posted by: Katy Tur at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (mbhDw)
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Posted by: Don Q. at February 08, 2017 04:55 PM (qf6WZ)
Because being a victim in the present culture is easier than forging ahead through thick and thin... and sometimes pays more.
Because being a victim in the present culture is easier than forging ahead through thick and thin... and sometimes pays more.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (BB1en)
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Explain how I will be able to exercise my rights in the state of NJ with reciprocity?
Article 4 Section 1 Full faith & credit.
Article 4 Section 1 Full faith & credit.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 05:00 PM (2w7OO)
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Because being a victim in the present culture is easier than forging ahead through thick and thin... and sometimes pays more.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (BB1en)
Which is my point.... question is... why?
How the hell did we get here?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (BB1en)
Which is my point.... question is... why?
How the hell did we get here?
Posted by: Don Q. at February 08, 2017 05:00 PM (qf6WZ)
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#259 Coretta Scott King was MLK's wife, not his daughter.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now @SMcEvil on GAB at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (kXoT0)
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I think Sessions' replacement will be AL Atty Gen Luther Strange.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (97XyN)
That is an interesting name. Luther Strange - sounds like a villain.
I think Sessions' replacement will be AL Atty Gen Luther Strange.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (97XyN)
That is an interesting name. Luther Strange - sounds like a villain.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (a0IVu)
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Trump could mean new momentum for drug imports
http://tinyurl.com/zfkrveq
But nothing at all is happening.
http://tinyurl.com/zfkrveq
But nothing at all is happening.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (/tuJf)
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Nordstrom made a political decision, its up to everyone else to make that same political decision if they choose.
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (Frvrc)
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JackStraw your analysis makes no sense on either the substantive or political angles.
"Transition" back to status quo ante will be easy. It will mean going "back" to how business was done ..... for decades. Any "chaos" will be artificial or temporary, and pale in comparison to that going *in* to the O-care era.
Politically, O-care was unpopular, did not arise from *any* significant or wide-spread grassroots or popular demand, of any sort. It was always a top-down push, a lefty Dem obsession, beginning (as a tactical political matter) with the special Senate election in PA (Harris Wofford) - this is when the Dem consultant class became fixated on this (saw it personally).
GOP is not going to be "punished" for removing one of the most damaging and unpopular programs in history. Even in the very unlikely event any real hardship - which could easily be addressed through minor adjustments - the political impact should be de minimis, as would be the numbers of people negatively affected.
"Transition" back to status quo ante will be easy. It will mean going "back" to how business was done ..... for decades. Any "chaos" will be artificial or temporary, and pale in comparison to that going *in* to the O-care era.
Politically, O-care was unpopular, did not arise from *any* significant or wide-spread grassroots or popular demand, of any sort. It was always a top-down push, a lefty Dem obsession, beginning (as a tactical political matter) with the special Senate election in PA (Harris Wofford) - this is when the Dem consultant class became fixated on this (saw it personally).
GOP is not going to be "punished" for removing one of the most damaging and unpopular programs in history. Even in the very unlikely event any real hardship - which could easily be addressed through minor adjustments - the political impact should be de minimis, as would be the numbers of people negatively affected.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Dolly P. at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (LAe3v)
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276 I think Sessions' replacement will be AL Atty Gen Luther Strange.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (97XyN)
so you're saying things could get Strange, in the Senate?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (97XyN)
so you're saying things could get Strange, in the Senate?
Posted by: Don Q. at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (qf6WZ)
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One of the main things that needs to happen is to allow drug reimportation so that we're not paying more for a drug than Mexico or Germany is. For example.
Posted by: Methos
I've never really understood the TruCon objection to this, basically we're supposed to let the world get dirt cheap drugs on the backs of Americans paying through the nose.
Surely something can be crafted to where Big Pharma can't price the same drug 100,000% higher for Americans than Europeans.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (DWmPO)
The objection?
Do you like companies developing drugs and getting them approved for the U.S.?
If so, you should ask yourself where the drug companies get the money to get approval in the United States.
Pro-tip: It's from the high prices of approved drugs and devices, which are necessary to cover the regulatory burden in addition to the R&D.
Other countries approvals have a much lower regulatory burden. It's cheaper in other countries because it is cheaper to get them approved for sale there. You allow cheap imports and companies won't have the money to get regulator approval in the U.S., which means won't be able to get them at all, at least not legally.
Profit margins for drug companies are actually rather narrow, and they make their money off of volume.
Posted by: Methos
I've never really understood the TruCon objection to this, basically we're supposed to let the world get dirt cheap drugs on the backs of Americans paying through the nose.
Surely something can be crafted to where Big Pharma can't price the same drug 100,000% higher for Americans than Europeans.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (DWmPO)
The objection?
Do you like companies developing drugs and getting them approved for the U.S.?
If so, you should ask yourself where the drug companies get the money to get approval in the United States.
Pro-tip: It's from the high prices of approved drugs and devices, which are necessary to cover the regulatory burden in addition to the R&D.
Other countries approvals have a much lower regulatory burden. It's cheaper in other countries because it is cheaper to get them approved for sale there. You allow cheap imports and companies won't have the money to get regulator approval in the U.S., which means won't be able to get them at all, at least not legally.
Profit margins for drug companies are actually rather narrow, and they make their money off of volume.
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (OzJeO)
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Katy Tur's partner is Keith Olbermann? Her breast size is a larger number than his IQ.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (hJrjt)
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In this case, against all of my better judgement, I want the federal government to come smashing down on the fascists in Trenton.
I do too. Just not with a fed license that the feds can stop at the next regime change. Fuck DC. They can't tell Texas what we can carry. If it was a fed license, they could.
I do too. Just not with a fed license that the feds can stop at the next regime change. Fuck DC. They can't tell Texas what we can carry. If it was a fed license, they could.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 05:02 PM (2w7OO)
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That is an interesting name. Luther Strange - sounds like a villain.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (a0IVu)
Dr. Lex Luther Strange, baby!
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (a0IVu)
Dr. Lex Luther Strange, baby!
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 05:03 PM (8iiMU)
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Luther Strange sounds like a comic book character, could be good guy or bad.
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2017 05:03 PM (Frvrc)
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I think Sessions' replacement will be AL Atty Gen Luther Strange.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (97XyN)
That is an interesting name. Luther Strange - sounds like a villain.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (a0IVu)
Hey now!
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 08, 2017 04:59 PM (97XyN)
That is an interesting name. Luther Strange - sounds like a villain.
Posted by: IC at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (a0IVu)
Hey now!
Posted by: Dr. Strange at February 08, 2017 05:03 PM (qf6WZ)
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Put American Flag over her face & Fuck her for old Glory
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 04:58 PM (y3aQB)
Really? I thought it was crass when someone talked about holding their hand over Sarah Palin's mouth while they f'ed her on the American flag-evidently against her will, but conservatives have to say the same about someone on the other side? :^(
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 04:58 PM (y3aQB)
Really? I thought it was crass when someone talked about holding their hand over Sarah Palin's mouth while they f'ed her on the American flag-evidently against her will, but conservatives have to say the same about someone on the other side? :^(
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 05:03 PM (fDdVG)
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278 37-26-37 with a 34-C bra.
Yowza.
JJ ... I'm only 44 ... but some of the dudes around here make me feel old. Out of touch. Or something.
I mean ... Katy Tur is a fine piece of mish. What kind of trim are these people pulling to look down their noses at Katy Tur ? Look ... I'd take a bullet for my wife ... but if we're talking looks ? Advantage Katy Tur.
Help me out here JJ. What's the deal ?
Yowza.
JJ ... I'm only 44 ... but some of the dudes around here make me feel old. Out of touch. Or something.
I mean ... Katy Tur is a fine piece of mish. What kind of trim are these people pulling to look down their noses at Katy Tur ? Look ... I'd take a bullet for my wife ... but if we're talking looks ? Advantage Katy Tur.
Help me out here JJ. What's the deal ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 05:03 PM (buBai)
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You want reciprocal carry. But not a national permit.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 04:53 PM (2w7OO)
Explain how I will be able to exercise my rights in the state of NJ with reciprocity?
In this case, against all of my better judgement, I want the federal government to come smashing down on the fascists in Trenton.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2017 04:57 PM (rF0hx)
Better solution: SCOTUS declares Constitutional Carry to be a Constitutional Right.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 04:53 PM (2w7OO)
Explain how I will be able to exercise my rights in the state of NJ with reciprocity?
In this case, against all of my better judgement, I want the federal government to come smashing down on the fascists in Trenton.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2017 04:57 PM (rF0hx)
Better solution: SCOTUS declares Constitutional Carry to be a Constitutional Right.
Posted by: The Concealed Hat at February 08, 2017 05:03 PM (OzJeO)
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Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:58 PM (8iiMU)
https://tinyurl.com/crd4mkn
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THIS
https://tinyurl.com/crd4mkn
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THIS
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 05:04 PM (y3aQB)
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110 These despicable cretins need to be shut down ASAP. They're embracing the Global Warming scam to push for more tax $$$ for the govt. -- they Big Govt. GOPers, the worst of both worlds.
Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2017 04:08 PM (jBuUi)
James Baker, Hank Paulson, and George Schulz.
Baker is 86, George Schulz is 96, and Hank Paulson is their guardian at age 70.
Posted by: Jen
One of the unknown highlights of my "undercover journalist" career was the time, around 2007, when I somehow managed to charm my way into an absolutely off-limits ultra-high-end political fundraising event at which Dianne Feinstein, George Shultz, Willie Brown, Gavin Newsom and the Getty clan just mingled with the guests. I met them all and shook their hands and even spent 5 minutes chatting with Shultz (amongst other zillionaires and glitterati whom I didn't recognize). Although I had not been invited, through the sheer power of personal charisma I finagled my way inside, in what (had anyone found out about it) would have been considered a major security breach.
Because of that issue, and not wanting to come under any kind of investigation, I never published a report on the event, despite it being on of the very few times I ever actually used my camera-earring.
Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2017 04:08 PM (jBuUi)
James Baker, Hank Paulson, and George Schulz.
Baker is 86, George Schulz is 96, and Hank Paulson is their guardian at age 70.
Posted by: Jen
One of the unknown highlights of my "undercover journalist" career was the time, around 2007, when I somehow managed to charm my way into an absolutely off-limits ultra-high-end political fundraising event at which Dianne Feinstein, George Shultz, Willie Brown, Gavin Newsom and the Getty clan just mingled with the guests. I met them all and shook their hands and even spent 5 minutes chatting with Shultz (amongst other zillionaires and glitterati whom I didn't recognize). Although I had not been invited, through the sheer power of personal charisma I finagled my way inside, in what (had anyone found out about it) would have been considered a major security breach.
Because of that issue, and not wanting to come under any kind of investigation, I never published a report on the event, despite it being on of the very few times I ever actually used my camera-earring.
Posted by: zombie at February 08, 2017 05:04 PM (jBuUi)
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I don't even know Liz Claman but Katy Tur is no Liz Claman.
Posted by: Mathers at February 08, 2017 05:05 PM (3myMJ)
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Trump back negotiating drug prices under Medicare.
http://tinyurl.com/jdo9dmj
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That's helpful but not really the same as reimportation. Which isn't really about reimportaion anyway. Once reimportation is possible, the drug companies would have to, due to market forces, drop their prices to a level that makes arbitrage unprofitable, which isn't quite the price in Mexico or Germany, but close to it. If you do it as a law, then it takes another law to undo it.
If it's just a matter of administrative pressure, that goes away the next time the White House has someone who doesn't care about spending other people's money again, or like the repeatedly mentioned Paulson above, has something to gain but negotiating with less vigor. Also, this only affects medicaid. Since we ideally would minimize the use of medicaid, we'd be maximizing the people *not* benefitting from the negotiation.
It is nice to see he understands the root of the problem, though.
http://tinyurl.com/jdo9dmj
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That's helpful but not really the same as reimportation. Which isn't really about reimportaion anyway. Once reimportation is possible, the drug companies would have to, due to market forces, drop their prices to a level that makes arbitrage unprofitable, which isn't quite the price in Mexico or Germany, but close to it. If you do it as a law, then it takes another law to undo it.
If it's just a matter of administrative pressure, that goes away the next time the White House has someone who doesn't care about spending other people's money again, or like the repeatedly mentioned Paulson above, has something to gain but negotiating with less vigor. Also, this only affects medicaid. Since we ideally would minimize the use of medicaid, we'd be maximizing the people *not* benefitting from the negotiation.
It is nice to see he understands the root of the problem, though.
Posted by: Methos at February 08, 2017 05:05 PM (3Liv/)
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"290 Katy Tur's partner is Keith Olbermann? Her breast size is a larger number than his IQ."
No, it appears she used him when she was young and he was a star. It worked and she is established while he is relegated to doing You Tube videos from his basement.
Check it out, The Young Turks have better production values than Keith (and theirs suck). Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
No, it appears she used him when she was young and he was a star. It worked and she is established while he is relegated to doing You Tube videos from his basement.
Check it out, The Young Turks have better production values than Keith (and theirs suck). Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 08, 2017 05:05 PM (OD2ni)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2017 05:03 PM (fDdVG)
Sorry it is Just an old Line a Friend of mine always uses
Sorry it is Just an old Line a Friend of mine always uses
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 08, 2017 05:05 PM (y3aQB)
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>>>That is an interesting name. Luther Strange - sounds like a villain.
Pay no heed to this sniveling imbecile! I only want to control the earth's weather for peaceful purposes, not to subjugate it and twist it into my own perverted image!
Pay no heed to this sniveling imbecile! I only want to control the earth's weather for peaceful purposes, not to subjugate it and twist it into my own perverted image!
Posted by: Professor Luthor Strange, Ph. D. in both Theoretical and Applied Evil at February 08, 2017 05:05 PM (8rNrN)
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Has anyone mentioned Katy Tur took baths with Keef Olbermann back in the day?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 08, 2017 05:06 PM (4ErVI)
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Rush was explaining a possible Senate rule that each Senator gets to speak and there are rules which they may use but it has a finality which will be a vote up or down with no filibuster possible. But not sure if thats what is happening or not.
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2017 05:06 PM (Frvrc)
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OT (but not by much), Keith Ellison, a conspiracy-minded Muslim who reveres Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and believes Jews are responsible for 9-11, is still in serious contention for DNC chair.
On the one hand, having a frothing-at-the-mouth lunatic as DNC Chair might further diminish Democratic electoral prospects across the board, at all levels. On the other hand, a frothing-at-the-mouth lunatic will be DNC Chair.
On the one hand, having a frothing-at-the-mouth lunatic as DNC Chair might further diminish Democratic electoral prospects across the board, at all levels. On the other hand, a frothing-at-the-mouth lunatic will be DNC Chair.
Posted by: troyriser at February 08, 2017 05:06 PM (ZkXe+)
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305 - Lucky guy, maybe it was on a take a shower with a friend day.
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2017 05:07 PM (Frvrc)
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"37-26-37 with a 34-C bra. 6'3""
She's at least a D, maybe DD. Serious cans
And she's nowhere close to 6'3"
Those may be her dad's new stats
She's at least a D, maybe DD. Serious cans
And she's nowhere close to 6'3"
Those may be her dad's new stats
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 05:07 PM (SIY7D)
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>>>290 "Katy Tur's partner is Keith Olbermann? Her breast size is a larger number than his IQ."
If you benumbed cattle would merely bow to me, my Viral Hormonizer would give every woman breasts this size! And kill 90% of all men!
For World Peace and Justice, of course!!!!
If you benumbed cattle would merely bow to me, my Viral Hormonizer would give every woman breasts this size! And kill 90% of all men!
For World Peace and Justice, of course!!!!
Posted by: Professor Luthor Strange, Ph. D. in both Theoretical and Applied Evil at February 08, 2017 05:07 PM (8rNrN)
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"And she's nowhere close to 6'3"
Those may be her dad's new stats"
What a world we live in that that's not a joke anymore.
Those may be her dad's new stats"
What a world we live in that that's not a joke anymore.
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 08, 2017 05:08 PM (OD2ni)
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Katy Tur? Meh.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 08, 2017 05:08 PM (oVJmc)
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SCOTUS declares Constitutional Carry to be a Constitutional Right.
Posted by: The Concealed Hat at February 08, 2017 05:03 PM (OzJeO)
Sign me up.
But the pricks recently held that NJ can regulate out of existence carry permits in NJ.
Owner of an ATM service company...you know, the guy who carries canisters of $20s all over the state?
He couldn't get a carry permit, thanks to SCOTUS.
Posted by: The Concealed Hat at February 08, 2017 05:03 PM (OzJeO)
Sign me up.
But the pricks recently held that NJ can regulate out of existence carry permits in NJ.
Owner of an ATM service company...you know, the guy who carries canisters of $20s all over the state?
He couldn't get a carry permit, thanks to SCOTUS.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2017 05:08 PM (rF0hx)
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Do you like companies developing drugs and getting them approved for the U.S.?
If so, you should ask yourself where the drug companies get the money to get approval in the United States.
Pro-tip: It's from the high prices of approved drugs and devices, which are necessary to cover the regulatory burden in addition to the R&D.
Other countries approvals have a much lower regulatory burden. It's cheaper in other countries because it is cheaper to get them approved for sale there. You allow cheap imports and companies won't have the money to get regulator approval in the U.S., which means won't be able to get them at all, at least not legally.
Profit margins for drug companies are actually rather narrow, and they make their money off of volume.
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat
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So Americans have to pay WAY more so the rest of the world can have these miracle cures for pennies on the dollar.
You go across the border and can get what would cost $20,000 here in the states for a few bucks.
Because we're rich Americans and we're supposed to absorb it. Just like with refugees and illegal immigrants.
Fuck Big Pharama, they were a big push for Obamacare.
If you enforced laws where there wasn't this price disparity, other countries would have to start paying their fair share instead of the US consumer subsidizing socialized medicine around the world.
If so, you should ask yourself where the drug companies get the money to get approval in the United States.
Pro-tip: It's from the high prices of approved drugs and devices, which are necessary to cover the regulatory burden in addition to the R&D.
Other countries approvals have a much lower regulatory burden. It's cheaper in other countries because it is cheaper to get them approved for sale there. You allow cheap imports and companies won't have the money to get regulator approval in the U.S., which means won't be able to get them at all, at least not legally.
Profit margins for drug companies are actually rather narrow, and they make their money off of volume.
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat
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So Americans have to pay WAY more so the rest of the world can have these miracle cures for pennies on the dollar.
You go across the border and can get what would cost $20,000 here in the states for a few bucks.
Because we're rich Americans and we're supposed to absorb it. Just like with refugees and illegal immigrants.
Fuck Big Pharama, they were a big push for Obamacare.
If you enforced laws where there wasn't this price disparity, other countries would have to start paying their fair share instead of the US consumer subsidizing socialized medicine around the world.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 05:09 PM (DWmPO)
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i"m rooting for Elison
Posted by: runner at February 08, 2017 05:09 PM (c6/9Q)
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One of the main things that needs to happen is to
allow drug reimportation so that we're not paying more for a drug than
Mexico or Germany is. For example.
Posted by: Methos
I've never really understood the TruCon objection to this, basically
we're supposed to let the world get dirt cheap drugs on the backs of
Americans paying through the nose.
Surely something can be crafted to where Big Pharma can't price the same drug 100,000% higher for Americans than Europeans.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (DWmPO)
At that point, pharma companies would have to fight the EU and other places to get higher returns there. The problem with that is that many places including the EU would just let pirates break the patents instead which would have a killing effect on the development of new drugs.
At current rates of return in those places, and without the US picking up the slack, incentive to develop new drugs would also be chilled to the point of freezing.
As much as it sucks that we subsidize drugs for the rest of the world, the alternative likely will not be we get new drugs and they pay their fair share. It will be that new life saving drugs likely just won't be developed except in the broadest categories of possible wide spread use.
allow drug reimportation so that we're not paying more for a drug than
Mexico or Germany is. For example.
Posted by: Methos
I've never really understood the TruCon objection to this, basically
we're supposed to let the world get dirt cheap drugs on the backs of
Americans paying through the nose.
Surely something can be crafted to where Big Pharma can't price the same drug 100,000% higher for Americans than Europeans.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 04:54 PM (DWmPO)
At that point, pharma companies would have to fight the EU and other places to get higher returns there. The problem with that is that many places including the EU would just let pirates break the patents instead which would have a killing effect on the development of new drugs.
At current rates of return in those places, and without the US picking up the slack, incentive to develop new drugs would also be chilled to the point of freezing.
As much as it sucks that we subsidize drugs for the rest of the world, the alternative likely will not be we get new drugs and they pay their fair share. It will be that new life saving drugs likely just won't be developed except in the broadest categories of possible wide spread use.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2017 05:09 PM (FTXAT)
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"309 "37-26-37 with a 34-C bra. 6'3""
She's at least a D, maybe DD. Serious cans"
I would like to see Katy stand next to Kimberley Guilfoyle for comparison purposes.
She's at least a D, maybe DD. Serious cans"
I would like to see Katy stand next to Kimberley Guilfoyle for comparison purposes.
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 08, 2017 05:09 PM (OD2ni)
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Nood
Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2017 05:10 PM (2w7OO)
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I would like to see Katy stand next to Kimberley Guilfoyle for comparison purposes.
Might I suggest a few alternate poses ?
Might I suggest a few alternate poses ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 05:11 PM (buBai)
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I think Sessions' replacement will be AL Atty Gen Luther Strange.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed
Very likely. Unfortunately he interviewed for the job at the same time as he was overseeing the inquiry into possible impeachment of Gov. Bentley, who would appoint him, so unless Bentley gets impeached anyway, expect him to get slimed for it.
IIRC, his brother is Todd Strange, owner of a major automotive dealership and multi-term mayor of Montgomery. (No relation to the bassist from Crowbar and Down, that I know of.)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed
Very likely. Unfortunately he interviewed for the job at the same time as he was overseeing the inquiry into possible impeachment of Gov. Bentley, who would appoint him, so unless Bentley gets impeached anyway, expect him to get slimed for it.
IIRC, his brother is Todd Strange, owner of a major automotive dealership and multi-term mayor of Montgomery. (No relation to the bassist from Crowbar and Down, that I know of.)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at February 08, 2017 05:11 PM (9krrF)
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Has anyone mentioned Katy Tur took baths with Keef Olbermann back in the day?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 08, 2017 05:06 PM (4ErVI)
That makes her One status waver slightly, but it still remains a One....
Has anyone mentioned Katy Tur took baths with Keef Olbermann back in the day?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 08, 2017 05:06 PM (4ErVI)
That makes her One status waver slightly, but it still remains a One....
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 05:11 PM (8iiMU)
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>>"Transition" back to status quo ante will be easy. It will mean going "back" to how business was done ..... for decades. Any "chaos" will be artificial or temporary, and pale in comparison to that going *in* to the O-care era.
How many times do I have to say this. Trump, the President of the United States, the person people schadebeone about here on a minute by minute basis, has said repeatedly that we are NOT going back to the status quo ante. Can it be any more clear about that?
Go read what he's said himself. IT IS NOT HAPPENING. There will be a new plan. He friggin ran a huge part of his campaign on it. Perhaps it would be a really good idea to allow his HHS and Medicare Secretaries to get approved so we can have someone to help propose his plan, help pass it and then get it installed. Sound like a pretty fucking good idea to me.
>>GOP is not going to be "punished" for removing one of the most damaging and unpopular programs in history. Even in the very unlikely event any real hardship - which could easily be addressed through minor adjustments - the political impact should be de minimis, as would be the numbers of people negatively affected.
You have no idea if that's true or not. There are a huge number of moving parts here and as the Democrats so plainly displayed, doing it wrong sure as hell does have serious negative ramifications for the Party that puts the plan in place.
There is zero, none, nada evidence that a replacement plan won't be coming forward. Indeed, everyone from Trump on down says on a daily basis that they are busy working on a replacement plan. It's not hard, listen to what they are saying. If you think Trump is lying and plans on being a failed 1 term President, ok. I don't agree. If you think the Republican in Congress want to give away the majorities they fought for years to get, ok. I don't agree. I think there will indeed be a new plan and I want to see it as much as anyone. I pay the same absurd rates everyone does for the privilege of having useless insurance. But this shit does not happen overnight. Never has, never will.
They only people saying this isn't true is the same media that again people sit here day after day after day hammering. So why are you listening to them?
How many times do I have to say this. Trump, the President of the United States, the person people schadebeone about here on a minute by minute basis, has said repeatedly that we are NOT going back to the status quo ante. Can it be any more clear about that?
Go read what he's said himself. IT IS NOT HAPPENING. There will be a new plan. He friggin ran a huge part of his campaign on it. Perhaps it would be a really good idea to allow his HHS and Medicare Secretaries to get approved so we can have someone to help propose his plan, help pass it and then get it installed. Sound like a pretty fucking good idea to me.
>>GOP is not going to be "punished" for removing one of the most damaging and unpopular programs in history. Even in the very unlikely event any real hardship - which could easily be addressed through minor adjustments - the political impact should be de minimis, as would be the numbers of people negatively affected.
You have no idea if that's true or not. There are a huge number of moving parts here and as the Democrats so plainly displayed, doing it wrong sure as hell does have serious negative ramifications for the Party that puts the plan in place.
There is zero, none, nada evidence that a replacement plan won't be coming forward. Indeed, everyone from Trump on down says on a daily basis that they are busy working on a replacement plan. It's not hard, listen to what they are saying. If you think Trump is lying and plans on being a failed 1 term President, ok. I don't agree. If you think the Republican in Congress want to give away the majorities they fought for years to get, ok. I don't agree. I think there will indeed be a new plan and I want to see it as much as anyone. I pay the same absurd rates everyone does for the privilege of having useless insurance. But this shit does not happen overnight. Never has, never will.
They only people saying this isn't true is the same media that again people sit here day after day after day hammering. So why are you listening to them?
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 05:11 PM (/tuJf)
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Check it out, The Young Turks have better production values than Keith (and theirs suck). Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 08, 2017 05:05 PM (OD2ni)
That's no way to talk about the leader of the Resistance. Any day now he's going to lead the uprising. Just as soon as he can get someone, anyone to follow him
Posted by: Benji Carver at February 08, 2017 05:05 PM (OD2ni)
That's no way to talk about the leader of the Resistance. Any day now he's going to lead the uprising. Just as soon as he can get someone, anyone to follow him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 05:11 PM (493sH)
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Fox Business on the 9th Circus. Shocker the Obama appointee is blasting the Trump case
Fox Business on the 9th Circus. Shocker the Obama appointee is blasting the Trump case
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 05:12 PM (493sH)
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As much as it sucks that we subsidize drugs for the rest of the
world, the alternative likely will not be we get new drugs and they pay
their fair share. It will be that new life saving drugs likely just
won't be developed except in the broadest categories of possible wide
spread use.
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Everyone's going to die some day.
Maybe it's time we stop spending our children into oblivion in order to pretend otherwise.
world, the alternative likely will not be we get new drugs and they pay
their fair share. It will be that new life saving drugs likely just
won't be developed except in the broadest categories of possible wide
spread use.
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Everyone's going to die some day.
Maybe it's time we stop spending our children into oblivion in order to pretend otherwise.
Posted by: Methos at February 08, 2017 05:12 PM (3Liv/)
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If you benumbed cattle would merely bow to me, my Viral Hormonizer would give every woman breasts this size! And kill 90% of all men!
====
You laugh, you laugh. But it ain't funny!
The man's penis is shrinking down. Now the man is looking at something that was, but ain't.
It's that damn Viral Estro-Hormonizer. The white man is putting it in the water supply.
====
You laugh, you laugh. But it ain't funny!
The man's penis is shrinking down. Now the man is looking at something that was, but ain't.
It's that damn Viral Estro-Hormonizer. The white man is putting it in the water supply.
Posted by: Louis Farrakhan at February 08, 2017 05:13 PM (4bKiB)
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I mean ... Katy Tur is a fine piece of mish. What kind of trim are these people pulling to look down their noses at Katy Tur ?"
Katy Tur is where she is because of her looks. In that rarefied world she not quite as special as she thinks she is. Megyn Kelly is last year's model, but doesn't know it yet. Ainsley Earhardt still has it. Hallie Jackson has a bubbly personality, and is an Up n Cummer
Katy Tur is where she is because of her looks. In that rarefied world she not quite as special as she thinks she is. Megyn Kelly is last year's model, but doesn't know it yet. Ainsley Earhardt still has it. Hallie Jackson has a bubbly personality, and is an Up n Cummer
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 05:13 PM (SIY7D)
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122 Shit also gets real when Sessions is in place.
Expect Sessions to lead some kind of federal takeover of the Chicago police.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:21 PM (SIY7D)
Screw that. The idiots in Chicago made the mess, let them fix it. Or not. I don't care.
I don't want the feds stepping in to fix their mess.
Expect Sessions to lead some kind of federal takeover of the Chicago police.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 04:21 PM (SIY7D)
Screw that. The idiots in Chicago made the mess, let them fix it. Or not. I don't care.
I don't want the feds stepping in to fix their mess.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 08, 2017 05:13 PM (tu3iY)
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Fox Business on the 9th Circus. Shocker the Obama appointee is blasting the Trump case
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 05:12 PM (493sH)
LOL, yeah. I have FBN on in the background.
This issue is complete BS and incredible.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 08, 2017 05:12 PM (493sH)
LOL, yeah. I have FBN on in the background.
This issue is complete BS and incredible.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 05:14 PM (8iiMU)
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>>That's helpful but not really the same as reimportation.
Read the next link I posted. Or google others. Trump has been talking about importing and reimporting drugs throughout his campaign.
Read the next link I posted. Or google others. Trump has been talking about importing and reimporting drugs throughout his campaign.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2017 05:17 PM (/tuJf)
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As much as it sucks that we subsidize drugs for the rest of the world, the alternative likely will not be we get new drugs and they pay their fair share. It will be that new life saving drugs likely just won't be developed except in the broadest categories of possible wide spread use.
Posted by: redbanzai
I'm honestly okay with that tradeoff, just talking with doctors and people that work with large hospitals, the "miracle drug" phenomenon is a lot of subtle changes that just let these companies charge way more for basically the same thing.
There's a "new" Hep C treatment that costs like $84,000 and our state has to buy it for the prison population.
Big Pharma and Big Government are very much joined at the hip
Posted by: redbanzai
I'm honestly okay with that tradeoff, just talking with doctors and people that work with large hospitals, the "miracle drug" phenomenon is a lot of subtle changes that just let these companies charge way more for basically the same thing.
There's a "new" Hep C treatment that costs like $84,000 and our state has to buy it for the prison population.
Big Pharma and Big Government are very much joined at the hip
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 05:17 PM (DWmPO)
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Other countries approvals have a much lower regulatory burden. It's
cheaper in other countries because it is cheaper to get them approved
for sale there. You allow cheap imports and companies won't have the
money to get regulator approval in the U.S., which means won't be able
to get them at all, at least not legally.
Profit margins for drug companies are actually rather narrow, and they make their money off of volume.
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat
Most other countries don't have an approval process at all. To the extent that they even contemplate things like that, they are able to just piggie back on the FDA approval. The FDA, BTW has vastly increased the time and expense to get approval since they now require that drug companies not only prove that a drug is safe but also that it is effective (the second part of that has only been required since 1962).
cheaper in other countries because it is cheaper to get them approved
for sale there. You allow cheap imports and companies won't have the
money to get regulator approval in the U.S., which means won't be able
to get them at all, at least not legally.
Profit margins for drug companies are actually rather narrow, and they make their money off of volume.
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat
Most other countries don't have an approval process at all. To the extent that they even contemplate things like that, they are able to just piggie back on the FDA approval. The FDA, BTW has vastly increased the time and expense to get approval since they now require that drug companies not only prove that a drug is safe but also that it is effective (the second part of that has only been required since 1962).
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2017 05:17 PM (FTXAT)
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Profit margins for drug companies are actually rather narrow, and they make their money off of volume.
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (OzJeO)
Yeah the wife works for one of the big drug companies. The frigging money it costs to even get a drug to market along with other costs is frigging insane, like unreal insane. Even the shipping. Oh hey, airport fucked up and $25,000,000 worth of serum died on the tarmac in the sun..oops. Unreal the stories I hear.
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat at February 08, 2017 05:01 PM (OzJeO)
Yeah the wife works for one of the big drug companies. The frigging money it costs to even get a drug to market along with other costs is frigging insane, like unreal insane. Even the shipping. Oh hey, airport fucked up and $25,000,000 worth of serum died on the tarmac in the sun..oops. Unreal the stories I hear.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 08, 2017 05:18 PM (aMlLZ)
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184 Is anyone else tired of the spokes-kid on the Shriners commercial?
Should I denounce myself?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:40 PM (8iiMU)
Yes and No.
Should I denounce myself?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:40 PM (8iiMU)
Yes and No.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 08, 2017 05:19 PM (tu3iY)
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"I don't want the feds stepping in to fix their mess."
Trump and the DOJ taking over the Chicago police is a good political move. How can the Ds and Emmanuel resist? They will, but will expose themselves in doing so, because a root problem is the ties between gangs and the local Ds. Shows that Trump actually cares about inner city blacks. Won't be hard to get the Chicago murder and shooting rates down. Very Rudy.
Trump and the DOJ taking over the Chicago police is a good political move. How can the Ds and Emmanuel resist? They will, but will expose themselves in doing so, because a root problem is the ties between gangs and the local Ds. Shows that Trump actually cares about inner city blacks. Won't be hard to get the Chicago murder and shooting rates down. Very Rudy.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2017 05:19 PM (SIY7D)
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I'm honestly okay with that tradeoff, just talking
with doctors and people that work with large hospitals, the "miracle
drug" phenomenon is a lot of subtle changes that just let these
companies charge way more for basically the same thing.
There's a "new" Hep C treatment that costs like $84,000 and our state has to buy it for the prison population.
Big Pharma and Big Government are very much joined at the hip
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 05:17 PM (DWmPO)
That new Hep C drug actually is a revolution in that it cures Hep C instead of just treating and suppressing the symptoms.
with doctors and people that work with large hospitals, the "miracle
drug" phenomenon is a lot of subtle changes that just let these
companies charge way more for basically the same thing.
There's a "new" Hep C treatment that costs like $84,000 and our state has to buy it for the prison population.
Big Pharma and Big Government are very much joined at the hip
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 05:17 PM (DWmPO)
That new Hep C drug actually is a revolution in that it cures Hep C instead of just treating and suppressing the symptoms.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2017 05:20 PM (FTXAT)
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246 'Sup Weasel ...
... Katy Tur is worth a look. Just not a listen.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 04:53 PM (buBai)
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Not exceptional. Just average. Looks like a chick one would meet at a women's roller derby.
... Katy Tur is worth a look. Just not a listen.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 08, 2017 04:53 PM (buBai)
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Not exceptional. Just average. Looks like a chick one would meet at a women's roller derby.
Posted by: Soona at February 08, 2017 05:25 PM (Fmupd)
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That new Hep C drug actually is a revolution in that it cures Hep C instead of just treating and suppressing the symptoms.
Posted by: redbanzai
And it costs like a $1,000 in other countries, but here in the US it's close to 6 figures and we're buying t for prisoners.
It's a very screwed up system and something needs to change.
Posted by: redbanzai
And it costs like a $1,000 in other countries, but here in the US it's close to 6 figures and we're buying t for prisoners.
It's a very screwed up system and something needs to change.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 05:26 PM (DWmPO)
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So Americans have to pay WAY more so the rest of the world can have these miracle cures for pennies on the dollar.
You go across the border and can get what would cost $20,000 here in the states for a few bucks.
Because we're rich Americans and we're supposed to absorb it. Just like with refugees and illegal immigrants.
Fuck Big Pharama, they were a big push for Obamacare.
If you enforced laws where there wasn't this price disparity, other countries would have to start paying their fair share instead of the US consumer subsidizing socialized medicine around the world.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 05:09 PM (DWmPO)
Wrong.
You pay more so that you can legally get it here.
If a company can't afford the U.S. market's regulatory burden, they just don't sell it in the U.S.
Knew plenty of companies that sold only outside of the U.S., including companies that manufactured here.
Problem is, if it's not approved here, then you can't bring it in like a simply foreign bought version of what is approved here.
http://www.fda.gov/ForIndustry/ImportProgram/ImportBasics/ucm432661.htm
You go across the border and can get what would cost $20,000 here in the states for a few bucks.
Because we're rich Americans and we're supposed to absorb it. Just like with refugees and illegal immigrants.
Fuck Big Pharama, they were a big push for Obamacare.
If you enforced laws where there wasn't this price disparity, other countries would have to start paying their fair share instead of the US consumer subsidizing socialized medicine around the world.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 05:09 PM (DWmPO)
Wrong.
You pay more so that you can legally get it here.
If a company can't afford the U.S. market's regulatory burden, they just don't sell it in the U.S.
Knew plenty of companies that sold only outside of the U.S., including companies that manufactured here.
Problem is, if it's not approved here, then you can't bring it in like a simply foreign bought version of what is approved here.
http://www.fda.gov/ForIndustry/ImportProgram/ImportBasics/ucm432661.htm
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat at February 08, 2017 05:26 PM (OzJeO)
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Wrong.
You pay more so that you can legally get it here.
If a company can't afford the U.S. market's regulatory burden, they just don't sell it in the U.S.
Knew plenty of companies that sold only outside of the U.S., including companies that manufactured here.
Problem is, if it's not approved here, then you can't bring it in like a simply foreign bought version of what is approved here.
http://www.fda.gov/ForIndustry/ImportProgram/ImportBasics/ucm432661.htm
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat
You're arguing about something completely different.
You pay more so that you can legally get it here.
If a company can't afford the U.S. market's regulatory burden, they just don't sell it in the U.S.
Knew plenty of companies that sold only outside of the U.S., including companies that manufactured here.
Problem is, if it's not approved here, then you can't bring it in like a simply foreign bought version of what is approved here.
http://www.fda.gov/ForIndustry/ImportProgram/ImportBasics/ucm432661.htm
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat
You're arguing about something completely different.
Posted by: Maritime at February 08, 2017 05:30 PM (DWmPO)
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Most other countries don't have an approval process at all. To the extent that they even contemplate things like that, they are able to just piggie back on the FDA approval. The FDA, BTW has vastly increased the time and expense to get approval since they now require that drug companies not only prove that a drug is safe but also that it is effective (the second part of that has only been required since 1962).
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2017 05:17 PM (FTXAT)
That's not true. It's just that they don't burden the s**t out companies.
Even then, approval in your home country is often required or at least makes things much, much simpler, especially for higher classed medical items.
This would give larger companies reason to ship jobs overseas and set up manufacturing there.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2017 05:17 PM (FTXAT)
That's not true. It's just that they don't burden the s**t out companies.
Even then, approval in your home country is often required or at least makes things much, much simpler, especially for higher classed medical items.
This would give larger companies reason to ship jobs overseas and set up manufacturing there.
Posted by: The Regulatory Hat at February 08, 2017 05:38 PM (OzJeO)
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334 184 Is anyone else tired of the spokes-kid on the Shriners commercial?
Should I denounce myself?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:40 PM (8iiMU)
Yes and No.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 08, 2017 05:19 PM (tu3iY)
Ditto
Should I denounce myself?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 08, 2017 04:40 PM (8iiMU)
Yes and No.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 08, 2017 05:19 PM (tu3iY)
Ditto
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 08, 2017 05:48 PM (nQ10o)
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I can't begin to express my fury over the GOP's failure to have not a single obamacarecre replacement plan at the ready, after SEVEN FCUKING YEARS of promising repeal and replacement.
The unfortunate folks who are FORCED to buy these appalling Obamacare policies pay through the nose for them, can't afford to use THEM because of the out of pockets, and can't find providers who will accept them.
The asswipes need to be called into account. NOW.
The unfortunate folks who are FORCED to buy these appalling Obamacare policies pay through the nose for them, can't afford to use THEM because of the out of pockets, and can't find providers who will accept them.
The asswipes need to be called into account. NOW.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at February 08, 2017 05:55 PM (nQ10o)
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An "up-or-down vote"?
Whaddaya know? They figured out they'll lose the filibuster if they use the filibuster.
And you said they were incpable of lurning!
Whaddaya know? They figured out they'll lose the filibuster if they use the filibuster.
And you said they were incpable of lurning!
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 08, 2017 05:56 PM (dnRiK)
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If the Donks were smart (hey, I said IF!), they would be handing Trump a list of Center/Right judges whom they would not object to as a replacement for Kennedy or Ginsburg. The deal would be, promise to choose from this list for your next nomination, and we will support Gorsuch.
That way Trump gets his big win, the Donks avoid getting nuked, and they get a judge they can live with next time around. That is as good a deal as they are likely to get.
That way Trump gets his big win, the Donks avoid getting nuked, and they get a judge they can live with next time around. That is as good a deal as they are likely to get.
Posted by: haiku guy at February 08, 2017 07:46 PM (N+zBw)
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Good...this one fine...let them whine and cry and whine and cry....and pass him. Next one...nuke the SOB into the Supreme Court and be done with it. Enough already. How do these people get out of bed in the morning? OMG..I'd kill myself if I thought the way they did. Useless wonders. All of them.
Posted by: johny boy at February 08, 2017 08:43 PM (UNXWZ)
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343. No kidding. Krazyfornia mandates that a private individual plan pay the same to providers as the exchange plans. Result- many providers refuse to take exchange plans or private plans. Almost no one accepts medicaid.
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at February 08, 2017 09:05 PM (ptQdD)
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Trump should've gone with Garland and saved Goresuch as his second pick. Another unforced error.
Posted by: Bill Wynn at February 11, 2017 01:59 PM (GTjDr)
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