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EPA Workers "Coming To Work In Tears;" Still Not Have Accepted Trump's Win

The poor babies.


Environmental Protection Agency employees have not accepted Donald Trump's victory and are still "coming to work in tears" more than two months after the election.

...

Trump's victory has been tough for bureaucrats. The State Department held stress workshops after the election so they would not "become paralyzed by fear." EPA employees were caught crying before, just after the election, as were White House aides. Energy Department employees were granted counseling. Sobbing staffers greeted Hillary Clinton on Capitol Hill a month after her loss.

The facts mentioned in that last paragraph are hyperlinked to articles about the incidents.

We have two cultures in this country:

The first, which is traditionalist and Apollonian, maintains that it is quiet cool that should be valued. If someone maintains his equipoise in the face of adversity, that is more reason to trust his judgement and to think well of his character.

This view leads to a competition among people to try to show the most reserve, restraint, and detachment, as, these attributes being prized, people naturally compete with each other to demonstrate the most of these attributes.

The second culture, which is the new Cult promoted by the Adult Babies and is Dionysian in descent, maintains that performative, operatic displays of emotion indicate "authenticity" -- if your emotion is so vehement that you cannot suppress it, your feelings is therefore more "real."

And your feelings are facts, and #Science. The evidence you present that your feelings are true is your unhinged emotional incontinence.

Note this is true even if your "emotional" display is actually exaggerated and theatrical, or outright feigned -- you still get credit for signalling you're part of the garment-shredding tribe.

In this view, the ability to dampen emotion to think coolly and without tantrums and baby-seethings is actually a mark of inauthenticity, and therefore pretense and deception, as the man who is not freaking out like a sugar-rushed child is suppressing one's true Inner Adult Baby nature and therefore not being true to one's true essential nature as a raving lunatic.

In this regime, where emotion and shrieking are not signs that one is departing from truth but on top of it and inside it and grabbing it by the hips, spazzing out and freaking out are positively valorized, and people, being competitive and seeking to be "the best" in a field, attempt to top each other with even more amped-up displays of frantic fear and fury.

The media is of course very much the cultural ringleaders of the infantile culture. They don't seem to appreciate that many in society are still Apollonian traditionalists, who do not view their daily freakouts as a sign that they are possessed of the truth, but instead take this as evidence that they have psychological problems and developmental disorders.

Yet they continue pushing forward with the theory that because they are gibbering and wailing like lunatics, you should put more trust in their howlings, not less.

Posted by: Ace at 03:39 PM




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1 First.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 26, 2017 02:03 PM (ZKlDy)

2 Your tears are my life's blood, assholes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 26, 2017 02:04 PM (ZKlDy)

3 Those blubbering assholes can just GTFO and join the nearly 100M other people not in the work force.

Posted by: Roy at January 26, 2017 02:05 PM (VndSC)

4 26/01/17 14:11
BREAKING: Trump administration to seek big budget, staff cuts at Environmental Protection Agency - AP

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 26, 2017 02:06 PM (y3aQB)

5 th

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 26, 2017 02:06 PM (y3aQB)

6 Bigfoot strikes again.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at January 26, 2017 02:06 PM (5fSr7)

7 Someone should take the EPA out in back of the Barn and put it out of our misery

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2017 02:06 PM (sRFAL)

8 In this regime, where emotion and shrieking are not signs that one is departing from truth but on top of it and inside it and grabbing it by the hips, spazzing out and freaking out are positively valorized, and people, being competitive and seeking to be "the best" in a field, attempt to top each other with even more amped-up displays of frantic fear and fury.

====================

I want to see this method of truth seeking applied to physics and mathematics, especially at the classroom/university level.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 02:07 PM (/prE6)

9 I'm crying...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQrgeeS_qbo

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 02:07 PM (7HtZB)

10 Well, maybe they should just stop coming to work. Stop collecting a paycheck. We'll happily credit any future pension benefits back to the treasury.

In other words, sod off, swampies.

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 02:07 PM (TppKb)

11 Toughen up buttercup...

Posted by: deplorable donna at January 26, 2017 02:07 PM (O2RFr)

12 I'm going to need a bigger cup to hold all those tears!

Good thing I'm thirsty.

Posted by: John at January 26, 2017 02:07 PM (2GTjP)

13 And this is why Trump ordered them to not post on social media through their official work accounts.

Let's just hope they don't poop in the hallways again or destroy any more rivers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, mixing memes at January 26, 2017 02:07 PM (39g3+)

14 EPA Workers "Coming To Work In Tears;" Still Not Have Accepted Trump's Win

If you're gonna give me the climax, you might want to give me time to get a boner

Posted by: nsirchov at January 26, 2017 02:08 PM (BGUo0)

15 Did I read Federal bureaucrats paralyzed in fear?

I just came. Gotta go wipe up.

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 02:08 PM (TppKb)

16 EPA Region 9 is the worst. Can't wait for their asses to be canned.

Posted by: IC at January 26, 2017 02:08 PM (a0IVu)

17 Plenty of work for them up in ND. They know about fracking, right?

Posted by: Roy at January 26, 2017 02:08 PM (VndSC)

18 EN FUEGO!

Posted by: That Guy That Yells 'En Fuego' at January 26, 2017 02:08 PM (OhOyF)

19 th

Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 02:08 PM (8XRCm)

20 >>Sobbing staffers greeted Hillary Clinton on Capitol Hill a month after her loss

And I'll bet that beta-test lesbian cylon was a soothing balm to all.

Posted by: General Zod at January 26, 2017 02:08 PM (Bdeb0)

21 EPA Workers "Coming To Work In Tears;"
===
So like they are crying before they even get there?

What time do the Trump tears begin?

I need details. Lots of details.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 02:09 PM (toH8T)

22 Actually, I think the emoting is used to avoid working. After all, once one has worn themselves out through an emotional display, it's binky and blanky time. It also avoids people finding out that you really suck at your job, too.

Posted by: Blake at January 26, 2017 02:09 PM (qC1Sy)

23 Environmental Protection Agency employees have not accepted Donald Trump's victory and are still "coming to work in tears" more than two months after the election.

Mark Steyn said that this would make it tough to fdrain the swamp, because the swamp is full of EPA employees' tears.

I gotta tell you - it moved.

Posted by: blaster at January 26, 2017 02:09 PM (tewYv)

24 Ace stomps OM.
Like a BOSS.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 02:09 PM (Om16U)

25 Who said this?

Trump ordered a communications black out at the EPA so someone is going to be doing some extra crying on the unemployment line.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 26, 2017 02:09 PM (4ErVI)

26 I wonder if my tears of laughter count?

Posted by: Blake at January 26, 2017 02:09 PM (qC1Sy)

27 Let's just hope they don't poop in the hallways again or destroy any more rivers.

I'm not sure they ought to be allowed to continue to convert O2 and N into CO2 and etc.

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (TppKb)

28 In ye olden times, people wanted to grow up and be an adult with all of the autonomy and status that adulthood implied. Then everybody on the left decided they wanted to be teenagers forever. Now they all want to be toddlers. Nowhere to go from there but the fetal stage.

Posted by: Sunni LaBeouf at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (dargh)

29 If you think they are crying now, just wait until Trump cuts off their internet video feeds and interrupts their OTJ porn viewing.

Posted by: Roy at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (VndSC)

30 I think the U.S. Border Patrol Chief is in the second group because he just resigned.

A Border Patrol Chief that doesn't believe in border control. Thanks Obama.

Swamp...draining.

Posted by: WisRich at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (hdpay)

31 Come to work in tears. Go home in a huff. Maybe in a minute and a huff.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (IqV8l)

32 I hope they take a hatchet to the EPA and /or get rid of it. Thanks to them I lost a lot when the economy tanked in 2008.

Posted by: JROD at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (A59VO)

33
Suck it up buttercup.



....and.... did you do an environmental impact study of your saline excretions.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (8XRCm)

34 The pain. It's REAL.

Posted by: Golfman at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (k0S3A)

35 These people are fundamentally children.

I wonder how many of our problems would be solved by reestablishing the concept of maturity.

Grow up, seriously.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (xeeHA)

36 Still not tired of winning.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (mBnZE)

37 What I really want to know is when are you going to stop feeding us all this burt-hurt liberal porn so our schadenboners will subside?

Posted by: Rick in SK at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (/CIN4)

38 I want to see this method of truth seeking applied to physics and mathematics, especially at the classroom/university level.

Give it time. They are really, really trying to SJW-ize science and math. Don't say 'it can't happen' these are academics. Truth and logic are utterly irrelevant.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, mixing memes at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (39g3+)

39 EPA employees were caught crying before, just after the election
............

I'm not surprised. Most of them aren't even house trained either.

Posted by: wth at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (HgMAr)

40 What's that word for when you look at something and you think what a fuck-up piece of shit that thing you're looking at is?

Posted by: Dirty Randy at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (jjaLl)

41 The people in Flint and downstream from the Gold King Mine cried a lot too.

Anyone remember this EPA guy?

Al Armendariz, the EPA administrator in the Region 6 Dallas office,
made the remarks at a local Texas government meeting in 2010. He relayed
to the audience what he described as a "crude" analogy he once told his
staff about his "philosophy of enforcement."



"It was kind of like how the Romans used to, you know, conquer villages in the Mediterranean," he said. "They'd go in to a little Turkish town somewhere, they'd find the first five guys they saw, and they'd crucify them.




"And then, you know, that town was really easy to manage for the next few years," he said.





Armendariz went on to say that "you make examples out
of people who are in this case not complying with the law...and you
hit them as hard as you can" --- to act as a "deterrent" to others.

Posted by: FEMEN at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (NOIQH)

42 The difference between the two cultures you point out is also caused by a lack of real threat in our society. Which is more valuable in a real life or death crisis: Staying on top of your emotions and pushing down your fear- or going to pieces like a jammed door at Chuck Norris' house?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (92kX2)

43
I think the U.S. Border Patrol Chief is in the second group because he just resigned.
==

That guy?

SWEET

Chock full of win.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (toH8T)

44 28 In ye olden times, people wanted to grow up and be an adult with all of the autonomy and status that adulthood implied. Then everybody on the left decided they wanted to be teenagers forever. Now they all want to be toddlers. Nowhere to go from there but the fetal stage.
Posted by: Sunni LaBeouf at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (dargh)

And you know what happens after that. A visit to Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (7HtZB)

45 22 Actually, I think the emoting is used to avoid working. After all, once one has worn themselves out through an emotional display, it's binky and blanky time. It also avoids people finding out that you really suck at your job, too.
Posted by: Blake at January 26, 2017 02:09 PM (qC1Sy)

======================

"I'm unable to work today, so I'm going to go color. You still need to pay me, though."
-EPA worker bee

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (/prE6)

46 EPA has a sad.


Posted by: eleven at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (fYChk)

47 WTH??

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (toH8T)

48 Who does a guy have to blow to get a H/T around here?

Posted by: Epicurean at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (OhOyF)

49 How long do you put up with hysterics in the work place?

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (BQ5O8)

50 See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly
I'm crying

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (IqV8l)

51 The media is of course very much the cultural ringleaders of the infantile culture.
=======================

Very much this. When does the Trump White House livestream of news get cranked up?

A broadcast perhaps even including periodic pundit roundtables led by fair minded broadcasters seeking to communicate useful information, rather than a panicked liberal editorial.

Posted by: MTF. Fire Julia Ioffe! at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (X4ZNp)

52
Apollonian and Dionysian?

Have you been reading Paglia again?

*swat*

Bad Ewok!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (XWkhW)

53 Did these people never face losing a job before? Never lost a job before?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (fDdVG)

54 As a person of unemployment, can I just say how TRIGGERED and OFFENDED I am by these employee-privileged EPA workers crying on the job?


My people of unemployment would be happy to have any job!

Unemployed lives matter!


Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 02:12 PM (Om16U)

55 EPA Region 9 is the worst. Can't wait for their asses to be canned.

Though I have to suggest that in the interest of environmental protection we don't need to solder the lids on the cans these days.

Just crimp them and ship them.

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 02:12 PM (TppKb)

56 Huh?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 02:12 PM (jsWA8)

57 first !!!

Posted by: BIG AL FREDO at January 26, 2017 02:12 PM (iWo0u)

58 Auction them off or give them all away as sex slaves to ISIS.

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 26, 2017 02:12 PM (ONH2e)

59 What?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 02:12 PM (jsWA8)

60 I m cool but not quiet

Posted by: BIG AL FREDO at January 26, 2017 02:12 PM (iWo0u)

61 EPA Workers "Coming To Work In Tears;" Still Not Have Accepted Trump's Win

Wolfgang Putz recipe for Mexican nutsack with EPA tear sauce is delicious.

Posted by: nsirchov at January 26, 2017 02:13 PM (BGUo0)

62 Disappearing content?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or TEXIT) at January 26, 2017 02:13 PM (5G252)

63 I call all of that stealing taxdollars

Posted by: Lord Sir x at January 26, 2017 02:13 PM (nFwvY)

64 where am i??

Posted by: BIG AL FREDO at January 26, 2017 02:13 PM (iWo0u)

65 They know where the door is, if they're that demoralized and feeling so awful, they know the way out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, mixing memes at January 26, 2017 02:13 PM (39g3+)

66 Firth!

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 26, 2017 02:13 PM (ONH2e)

67 I can just imagine all the gold stars littering the office floor as these snowflakes pack up their stuff.

Posted by: ryukyu at January 26, 2017 02:13 PM (M9gZ2)

68 24 Ace stomps OM.
Like a BOSS.
Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 02:09 PM (Om16U)

"He is the boss"

~ Guy who says "Grizzly Adams did have a beard"

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 02:14 PM (8hICw)

69 The EPA are silly little bitches.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 02:14 PM (xeeHA)

70 Bottle those tears, they are as sweet as strawberry wine. Wining!!! Schadenboner status "competing with the volcanoes in mexico and Alaska."

Posted by: USNtakim at January 26, 2017 02:14 PM (hMqvx)

71 I was recently at a meeting with Senator Dodd. He called the boycott of the inaugural "disgraceful". He also questioned the efficacy of this behavior where people wear their politics on their sleeve and fail to support the elected government. If I could summarize his thoughts it would probably be he felt it would hurt the people doing it because they appeared unable to reflect or support balance. That is, they were extremists in their own right with little idea as to what was necessary to run a democracy.

I have my differences with Dodd and what I stated is not verbatim, but in his sentiments I agree

Posted by: Marcus T at January 26, 2017 02:14 PM (llUHc)

72 Get used to disappointment, cupcake.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 26, 2017 02:14 PM (kTF2Z)

73 st?

Posted by: Grimaldi at January 26, 2017 02:14 PM (V/f/L)

74 The tears of a bureaucrat...

Don't worry little bureaucrat. We only want to cook your children in the Global Warming.

Posted by: Aggressive Micropenis at January 26, 2017 02:15 PM (S9nir)

75
Pruitt needs to open a serious can of whoop ass on the EPA

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 26, 2017 02:15 PM (lKyWE)

76 It's the feminization of the culture.

Megan: Dakota is really upset! She's sobbing in the back bedroom, right now!
Cloe: Oh, no. The poor thing, I'll go rub her back. Someone get the chocolate and we'll all show her our support. I know I'm going to cry too.


Bill: Steve is really upset! He's crying in the back bedroom.
Mike: Whoa, that's messed up. Did his mother die?
John: We'd better leave him alone, unless he just needs a shot of whiskey.
Tom: Well, I'm out of here.

Taylor: Carey is really upset! Ze's crying in the back bedroom...

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2017 02:15 PM (RiIhf)

77 I like the Apollonian vs. Dionysian distinction, ace. I remember it from Paglia's "Sexual Personae" and recall she said Western Civ swings back and forth from placing primary emphasis on reason to feelz and back again. The Dionysians started taking over in the '60's. Time for the pendulum to swing back, I'd say.

Even 2 year olds having a crying fit exhaust themselves after a while. The left has shown it can keep it dialed up to 11!!! for a while, but ordinary people just can't and have no wish to live in a state of constant outrage forever.

Hell, I was in a state of frequent, if not constant outrage over the past 8 years. You know what not living with that feels like? Pretty damn good.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 26, 2017 02:16 PM (ZM2xo)

78 Why aren't my Comments Posting?

Posted by: garrett goes LiveBlog at January 26, 2017 02:16 PM (OhOyF)

79 event horizon????

Posted by: Billy Occam at January 26, 2017 02:17 PM (ihtYN)

80 I'm wondering what's going to happen when most of this generation of cry babies (I'm thinking mostly of this generation of college students) flood the job market.

Things are going to get very ugly very fast.

Posted by: Biergood at January 26, 2017 02:17 PM (v8Lx/)

81 --
BREAKING: Trump administration to seek big budget, staff cuts at Environmental Protection Agency - AP

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 26, 2017 02:06 PM
-------------------
.
.

Damn near anyone else besides Trump:

"Senator Schumer sir, do you think it might be possible if, down the line and not anytime soon, to theoretically consider a one-half of one percent reduction in the rate of growth of the EPA?"

Posted by: irright at January 26, 2017 02:18 PM (pMGkg)

82 ?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 02:21 PM (jsWA8)

83 First?

Posted by: Curby Graham at January 26, 2017 02:24 PM (IMv83)

84 Listen people, I know a lot of government workers in various agencies, and I haven't seen any of the freakout I keep reading about. Nobody threatening to quit or needing counseling or needing a safe place.

It's just more fake news!!

Most government workers I know are cautiosly optimistic about the new administration. Hell, most of them are vets and were disgusted with obama and the America hating left. If anyone is freaking out, it's the sjw's and media because the government is still working just fine even though the lord obama isn't at the helm.

There are a lot of government agencies that were not allowed to do their jobs under the last administration.

That's all I'm saying on the subject.

Posted by: Subterranean JT at January 26, 2017 02:25 PM (qG0hz)

85 So, wow.

Adult diapers for these people would be perfect.

Posted by: Wow at January 26, 2017 02:26 PM (ia2he)

86 That is some good shit, man.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 02:35 PM (jsWA8)

87 Aha! There you are you silly thread!

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 02:37 PM (Om16U)

88 They were so distraught they started shitting in the hallways.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 26, 2017 02:37 PM (0mRoj)

89 Woah! Time Machine.

Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at January 26, 2017 02:37 PM (ukNFU)

90 This nood is missing that fresh nood scent. Is this a certified, pre-owned nood?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 02:37 PM (92kX2)

91 The professional, non-partisan government bureaucrat is now and endangered species.

Especially at the EPA.

Posted by: Socratease at January 26, 2017 02:37 PM (FqHs5)

92 It occurred to me on my afternoon run (((GAINZZ))) that the amount of outrage Democrats expressed over Donald Trump appointing an accomplished black neurosurgeon to head the Department of Housing and Urban Development was exactly equal to the amount of outrage conservatives expressed when Barack Obama gave $10 Billion to the terrorist state of Iran.

Posted by: V the K at January 26, 2017 02:38 PM (O7MnT)

93 Not quite nood. Like the thread's wearing pasties.

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 02:38 PM (7HtZB)

94 They are satyrs and maenads.

Posted by: m at January 26, 2017 02:38 PM (3jGss)

95 EPA employees were caught crying before, just after the election, as
were White House aides. Energy Department employees were granted
counseling. Sobbing staffers greeted Hillary Clinton on Capitol Hill a
month after her loss.


Fire them all.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 26, 2017 02:38 PM (OzJeO)

96 This comment belongs here:

EPA: *sobsobsob*
Trump: Cry me Animas River.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 02:38 PM (Om16U)

97 >>This nood is missing that fresh nood scent. Is this a certified, pre-owned nood?


Never trust an Ewok in a White Wedding Dress.

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 02:39 PM (OhOyF)

98 Did anyone ever update that story about all the government workers who were going to quit after Trump got sworn in? How big is the problem; are there vast swathes of the government no longer able to function because of all the resignations?

/sarc

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 26, 2017 02:39 PM (R+30W)

99 "If you go to the EPA office in tears, they'll declare your face a wetland and you'll never be able to use your face again"-Mark Steyn

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 26, 2017 02:39 PM (2x9LM)

100 They are crying because Trump won

I voted for Trump because of them

Posted by: Lemmiwinks and his flaming boner of winning at January 26, 2017 02:39 PM (18h+i)

101 But wait,I thought Obama had "Spock like" calm coolness and that was the best thing.

Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2017 02:39 PM (r/0kC)

102 On an objective basis, those crying are psychologically unsuited to be employed there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 02:39 PM (NBHj5)

103 99 "If you go to the EPA office in tears, they'll declare your face a wetland and you'll never be able to use your face again"-Mark Steyn
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 26, 2017 02:39 PM (2x9LM)

BWA HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 02:39 PM (8hICw)

104 I know someone that worked for the EPA, had to quit because virtually everyone in senior management was virulently anti-capitalist. I hope the the entire thing is shut down. Leave a staff or twenty or so to oversee the superfund sites and call it a day.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 26, 2017 02:39 PM (7ZVPa)

105 THEY WON'T LET ME TWEET FROM THE OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT TWITTER ACCOUNT? FIRST AMENDMENT! NORTH KOREA! GEORGE ORWELL!

[mumbling]

Well yeah, of course I can still tweet from my personal account, but nobody reads it when I post . How am I supposed to spread propaganda intended to push a political agenda and enrich my colleagues and me if it only looks like my personal view and not that of the Agency?

Posted by: EPA Worker at January 26, 2017 02:40 PM (wx6iv)

106 This is an another example of a hard-working employee at the EPA:

The EPA's highest-paid employee and a leading expert on climate
change deserves to go to prison for at least 30 months for lying to his
bosses and saying he was a CIA spy working in Pakistan so he could avoid
doing his real job, say federal prosecutors.







John C. Beale, who pled guilty in September to
bilking the government out of nearly $1 million in salary and other
benefits over a decade, will be sentenced in a Washington, D.C., federal
court on Wednesday. In a newly filed sentencing memo, prosecutors said
that his lies were a "crime of massive proportion" and "offensive" to
those who actually do dangerous work for the CIA.



So I guess this is what the EPA workers do when they're not poisoning some community's drinking water.

Posted by: FEMEN at January 26, 2017 02:40 PM (NOIQH)

107 [X] Lamentations of their women.

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 26, 2017 02:40 PM (QM5S2)

108 The difference between the two cultures you point out is also caused by a lack of real threat in our society. Which is more valuable in a real life or death crisis: Staying on top of your emotions and pushing down your fear- or going to pieces like a jammed door at Chuck Norris' house?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (92kX2)
-------

Exactly right. The stoic culture is OBJECTIVELY superior to the crying baby culture. It isn't a coin toss.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 02:40 PM (xeeHA)

109 Being that the Border Patrol needs assistance to preform it's legal function; With the funding available after the EPA is ground into dust, I say we start up:

The Rat Patrol

In Color.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at January 26, 2017 02:41 PM (Pd7Sl)

110 You mean like the 'crying' and 'grieving' that went on in Pyongyang, North Korea after Kim Jong-Il and his father died? Got it. Virtue signaling so that you aren't targeted for your lack of grief.

Posted by: K-E at January 26, 2017 02:41 PM (vwioQ)

111 Because bureaucrats care oh, so deeply.


Who'd have thunk it?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 26, 2017 02:41 PM (wPiJc)

112 We will never go thirsty again!

Posted by: Moron wo Survives on Liberal Tears at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (Om16U)

113 I believe that the emotional distress on the left is real and deep (even if exaggerated for display purposes in some). I just wish our government were powerless enough not to prompt such emotions.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (zSMr0)

114 WZ : Vid of the Day is a Winner.

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (OhOyF)

115 >>>23
Mark Steyn said that this would make it tough to fdrain the swamp, because the swamp is full of EPA employees' tears.
Posted by: blaster at January 26, 2017 02:09 PM (tewYv)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (3jGss)

116 With NSA's Facial recognition software, I bet Trump can pick out many from the EPA at the Pre-partum Baby Killers March.

Posted by: Never Sick Of Winning at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (ndGCC)

117 I'm noticing an odd similarity between these EPA workers and the college students when they demand their safe spaces from Milo speaking.

Weird, isn't it?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (KUaJL)

118 Abolish the EPA.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (Om16U)

119 73st: An Ace of Spades Story

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (xeeHA)

120 We're just a bunch of Fonzies here. And what was Fonzy like?

Posted by: Jules at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (OzJeO)

121 This nood is missing that fresh nood scent. Is this a certified, pre-owned nood?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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It may regifted, recycled... or repurposed. I'm unclear regarding the distinctions, or the hierarchy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 02:43 PM (NBHj5)

122 "Gosnell" author on Steyn. She's going to be at a local B&N tonight. I would have liked a little heads up.

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 02:43 PM (7HtZB)

123 Crying? Tantrums?

Are they potty-trained yet in the Denver office?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2017 02:43 PM (NOIQH)

124 We're just a bunch of Fonzies here. And what was Fonzy like?
Posted by: Jules
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Better than Eddie Haskell.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 02:43 PM (NBHj5)

125 Read Sexual Personae much?

Posted by: brad at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (Ljubf)

126 101 But wait,I thought Obama had "Spock like" calm coolness and that was the best thing.
Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2017 02:39 PM (r/0kC)

Which is a lie. If anyone had ever called him out- really called him a lying, incompetent, bullshit artist- to his face in front of the camera, he would have turned into a whining, petulant man child puddle of goo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (92kX2)

127 "...not signs that one is departing from truth but on top of it and inside it and grabbing it by the hips..."

Who bitch trufe is?

Posted by: Ponchius-P at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (zke7T)

128 112 We will never go thirsty again!
Posted by: Moron wo Survives on Liberal Tears at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (Om16U)

That's good - there were a lot of pretzels this morning...

MAKING us thirsty.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (8hICw)

129 Articles like that really drive home the point that we dodged a very huge bullet last November. The federal govt is filled to the brim with leftist ready and willing to follow marching orders. As bad as all the leftist hysteria is, I don't even like to think about where we would be right now if things had gone the other way. I'm sure Hillary would be implementing schemes long in the works using her pen and phone.

Posted by: Ripley at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (sg5eZ)

130 Took almost a week, but you knew it was coming...

Shelters Under Pressure As Homeless Numbers Soar

Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (qJhUV)

131 Are they potty-trained yet in the Denver office?
Posted by: Lizzy
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*ponders an emergency air-drop of Squatty Potties*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (NBHj5)

132 Seems to be something wrong with my timepiece.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (Wo6be)

133 ace and/or pixy--I've been getting a lot of page crashes and reloads lately, along with takeover redirect ads--might be worth looking into. This is Safari on a not-jail-broken iPhone so there's a low risk of something viral on my end causing it...

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 26, 2017 02:45 PM (E/DK1)

134 I want to know if Trump is going to strip these massive bureaucracies of their "secret police" enforcement wings. A regulatory entity like the EPA should not have a fucking SWAT team!

And just think of all of the cheap ammo he could be selling to private citizens as a gesture of goodwill.

Posted by: Fritz at January 26, 2017 02:45 PM (2Mnv1)

135 Yet they continue pushing forward with the theory that because they are gibbering and wailing like lunatics, you should put more trust in their howlings, not less.

Don't believe them til they actually crap their drawers - then laugh at them.

Posted by: DaveA at January 26, 2017 02:45 PM (8J/Te)

136 As I said here a while ago, how long does a workplace need to put up with a bunch of hysterics?

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 02:45 PM (BQ5O8)

137 The first, which is traditionalist and Apollonian, maintains that it is quiet cool that should be valued.... The second culture, which is the new Cult promoted by the Adult Babies and is Dionysian...

Hmm, you may be on to something here. I go with Dionysian!

Posted by: Nietzsche at January 26, 2017 02:45 PM (hA1V+)

138 There is no need for EPA. The states all have their own environmental agency.

Posted by: MAC-SOG at January 26, 2017 02:45 PM (QPdNE)

139 There actually is a place for an EPA in the federal government, constitutionally; it would be for the oceans around the USA, and for bodies of water that cross directly over borders like major rivers, huge lakes (Superior, etc) and the like.

That's what it was started as, and then they kept tacking on more and more like "well this pond drains into a stream which drains into a river that merges with the Mississippi, so its our jurisdiction as well" and the courts went along with it. That's nonsense.

But a long as its international and interstate, okay. You have a job to do and it makes sense.

The question is at which point does a reasonable idea become unreasonable because it is so easily abused? Especially one that is by its nature going to attract the most mentally unhinged extremists to the position?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 02:46 PM (39g3+)

140 Y'know, one moment you're the sharp tip of the New Eternal Socialist Majority's spear, the next thing y'know, you're out on the street looking for a job at Starbucks.




Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 02:46 PM (JBggj)

141 I always told my kids when they were young "knock off the drama". Even now when they are older I have been known to say "knock off the drama". The lesson has been learned by my early 20s kids, why is it so hard for grown ass adults. Knock off the drama and fix the problem.

Posted by: USNtakim at January 26, 2017 02:46 PM (hMqvx)

142 138 There is no need for EPA. The states all have their own environmental agency.
Posted by: MAC-SOG at January 26, 2017 02:45 PM (QPdNE)

Indeed. Also: The EPA ain't never impounded a truck and boat for having a trout 1/2" too short in the cooler.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 02:46 PM (8hICw)

143 130 Took almost a week, but you knew it was coming...

Shelters Under Pressure As Homeless Numbers Soar
Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (qJhUV)

Four days. I am really surprised, I had one week plus in the pool.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 02:46 PM (92kX2)

144 130 Took almost a week, but you knew it was coming...

Shelters Under Pressure As Homeless Numbers Soar

Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (qJhUV)


Waiting for 9.6 percent unemployment to hit

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (2x9LM)

145 "unhinged emotional incontinence"

That there's some mighty fine wordsmithing, perfectly descriptive.

Posted by: West at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (1Rgee)

146 Fritz: "And just think of all of the cheap ammo he could be selling to private citizens as a gesture of goodwill."


Yeah, Fritz, but that will mostly be just mountains of .40 ammo - who wants that??


(commence the caliber wars!)

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (QDnY+)

147 126 Oh yeah,he got visibly angry on several occasions.A real press corps would have got him to meltdown on camera.

Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (r/0kC)

148 I had a Bad Gateway 502 error earlier today, and could not get on site.
This tells me the problem was Not on my end.

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (BQ5O8)

149 Waiting for 9.6 percent unemployment to hit
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (2x9LM)

93 million not working!!!!

~ MSM, likely next week

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (8hICw)

150 The State Department held stress workshops after the election so they would not "become paralyzed by fear."

If the state department has money for that, they need their budgets cut. I know plenty of people who've lost jobs, they weren't given stress workshops.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (+lVUW)

151 We are paying for Counseling for these fags.

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (OhOyF)

152
And what was Fonzy like?

Just bearable.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (IqV8l)

153 Appolonia was that flat chested girl with the drums, right?

Posted by: eleven at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (fYChk)

154 These liberal tears will be enough to supply California with enough water for the next decade.

MOAR PLZ.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (wtvvX)

155 My folks have a stream that emptied into a marshy swamp on their farm. It was useless land and they wanted to reclaim it by dredging both the stream and the marsh and turning it into a pond.

It took years, lots of $$ and endless regulations to actually improve the land without harming a single snail darter.

Fuck you EPA.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 02:48 PM (/tuJf)

156 But wait,I thought Obama had "Spock like" calm coolness and that was the best thing.

Spock-like, psychopathic lack of emotional ability; six of one, half dozen of the other.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 02:48 PM (39g3+)

157 spazzing out and freaking out are positively valorized, and people, being competitive and seeking to be "the best" in a field, attempt to top each other with even more amped-up displays of frantic fear and fury.

That explains the heifer at the coffee shop who looks at the coffee which is so delicious. And the no boobies lady on the plane who got booted off. And my mom's crazy sister.

Posted by: kallisto at January 26, 2017 02:48 PM (nNdYv)

158
EPA Workers "Coming To Work In Tears;" Still Not Have Accepted Trump's Win


So quit already, you sniveling pukes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at January 26, 2017 02:48 PM (G03UX)

159 148 Site was down about an hour.It was like Lord of the Flies.I think everyone survived though.

Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2017 02:48 PM (r/0kC)

160 Appolonia was that flat chested girl with the drums, right?
Posted by: eleven at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (fYChk)

Appolonia Kotero?

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 02:48 PM (BQ5O8)

161 Abolish the EPA and put the clean air and the clean water stuff in Interior with a thing that says we'll kill you if you go beyond those two mandates.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 26, 2017 02:48 PM (4ErVI)

162 There is no need for EPA. The states all have their own environmental agency.
Posted by: MAC-SOG
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That's bullshit. I just watched a PBS special on Rachel Carson. If it weren't for people like her, and the Federal Government, we'd all be dead.

Posted by: Smug, clueless Liberal at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (NBHj5)

163 >>I had a Bad Gateway 502 error earlier today, and could not get on site.
This tells me the problem was Not on my end.

It's coming from inside the blog!

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (/tuJf)

164 josephistan - yesterday you made a comment about PBY aircraft being converted into luxury travel vehicles. It actually happened! Rightcha here on this blog, somebody a year or two ago linked an article on PBY conversions done in the 1950s/60s.


It was at a site called messynessychic - you can find it. Just FYI.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (QDnY+)

165 We have two cultures in this country:




Adults and emotionally stunted adults.

Afternoon all. Day 1 of bereavement leave. In and out as available.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (qbcrG)

166 107
[X] Lamentations of their women.

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 26, 2017 02:40 PM (QM5S2)
Trump is doing it by the book.

Posted by: local news at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (1isJI)

167 I had a student come to class visibly upset the day after the election. She had been dis-invited from visiting a dear friend with whom she had always spent Christmas. The "friend" suspected that my student's boyfriend had voted for Trump.

In the student's case, I don't think she was being infantile. Her "friend" was.

Posted by: Emmie at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (xVuS6)

168 Not just the MSM but Hollywood and TV also continually push the "out-of-control emotions is authentic" fallacy. I was at NASA recently where I overheard a retired Mission Control manager giving a private tour discussing the movie Apollo 13. Ron Howard had to show the Mission Control lead hitting and kicking things to show the "drama and emotions" when in reality the people at NASA were calm and were working very quickly to come up with solutions after the explosion. People are trained to flip out these days.

Posted by: marky at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (yEAdf)

169 Site was down about an hour.It was like Lord of the Flies.I think everyone survived though.
Posted by: steevy
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No.

Posted by: Zombie Piggy at January 26, 2017 02:50 PM (NBHj5)

170 I work at EPA and have not seen anyone crying. It was more of a stunned silence and funereal mood. Younger workers and more recent hires are probably the most worried for their jobs.

The freeze on grants have made a lot of phones ring as people who are applying don't know if they are wasting effort. Reasonable people can disagree on the necessity for these programs, but applying for anything from the government is not a trivial exercise for anyone.

Posted by: EPA Employee at January 26, 2017 02:50 PM (rvgcl)

171 More winning - obamam appointed Border Patrol Chief Mark Morgan resigns

http://tinyurl.com/harkp7d

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 02:50 PM (7HtZB)

172 Here in Colorado, the EPA comes to work to spill toxic sludge in our rivers.

Posted by: Emmie at January 26, 2017 02:50 PM (xVuS6)

173 this guy thinks it is a collective Munchausen Syndrome, where they perceive terrible harm has come to them, when really nothing has happened, but they crave attention. They are no longer special prima donnas under Trump, and they demand everyone know about their fake world being destroyed by TrumpHitler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtyCeyUdtbot=94s

Posted by: illiniwek at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (uFxPi)

174 151 We are paying for Counseling for these fags.
Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (OhOyF)

I believe the style guide mandates this sentence be finished, "and their sh*ts are all retarded."

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (E/DK1)

175 No.
Posted by: Zombie Piggy at January 26, 2017 02:50 PM (NBHj5)

The lads. With fire hardened spears. In the jungle.

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (BQ5O8)

176 159 148 Site was down about an hour.It was like Lord of the Flies.I think everyone survived though.

Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2017 02:48 PM (r/0kC)

I lost an arm.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (WuRdh)

177 Jezzuz McGillicutty Kee-rist.


"Counseling" for fed employees after an election?


Folks, things are even worse than I thought.


Not saying there's no hope, but the hole we're in - the humans now playing the parts of "Americans", to a large extent - make me wonder.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (QDnY+)

178 That's bullshit. I just watched a PBS special on Rachel Carson. If it weren't for people like her, and the Federal Government, we'd all be dead.
Posted by: Smug, clueless Liberal at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (NBHj5)
===

Speaking of PBS, I hope they're going to be spun off soon. I saw the other day some GOPe senator (I think it was Hatch) complaining that there don't need to be any cuts to discretionary spending because it is under control and you need to target medicare and social security.

Fair point to be honest. But what they don't understand is that the left's sacred cows need to be slaughtered.

Posted by: Independent George at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (BDZWU)

179 >>167
I had a student come to class visibly upset the day after the election.
She had been dis-invited from visiting a dear friend with whom she had
always spent Christmas. The "friend" suspected that my student's
boyfriend had voted for Trump. In the student's case, I don't think she was being infantile. Her "friend" was. Posted by: Emmie at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (xVuS6)

Sorting is time-consuming and expensive. Send them both to the camp.

Posted by: General Zod at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (Bdeb0)

180 In the spirit of controlling gun violence, Trump should issue an EO requiring EPA and Interior to sell off all of their firearms to the public, save for those used to shoot wildlife.

For the children...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (wtvvX)

181
Environmental Protection Agency employees have not accepted Donald Trump's victory and are still "coming to work in tears" more than two months after the election.



I think this callls for an evironmental impact report into the effect of toxic lefty tears in the work place.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (lKyWE)

182 >>The freeze on grants have made a lot of phones ring as people who are applying don't know if they are wasting effort. Reasonable people can disagree on the necessity for these programs, but applying for anything from the government is not a trivial exercise for anyone.
Posted by: EPA Employee at January 26, 2017 02:50 PM (rvgcl)


Nothing stopping them from applying for a Private Grant is there?

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (OhOyF)

183 You WANT us on that Wall! You NEED us on that wall! YOU DO! YOU DO! YOU DO!
QUIT MAKING FUN OF US!!!

Posted by: Your Dedicated Public Servants at the EPA at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (qJhUV)

184 164 josephistan - yesterday you made a comment about PBY aircraft being converted into luxury travel vehicles. It actually happened! Rightcha here on this blog, somebody a year or two ago linked an article on PBY conversions done in the 1950s/60s.


It was at a site called messynessychic - you can find it. Just FYI.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (QDnY+)

Cool, thanks!

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 02:52 PM (7HtZB)

185 Crying EPA employees hacked our ass!

Posted by: Weasel at January 26, 2017 02:52 PM (C8aCP)

186 Kim Jung Un is not impressed with the spontaneous displays. He desires that the entire EPA stand in front of the ZPU-4 for a quick discussion on the conduct of proper emotional outbursts.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at January 26, 2017 02:53 PM (7N6ox)

187 Hi rick, how are you doing?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 02:53 PM (Om16U)

188 >>Speaking of PBS...what they don't understand is the left's sacred cows need to be slaughtered. Posted by: Independent George at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (BDZWU)

FIFY. Soylent Moyers.

Posted by: General Zod at January 26, 2017 02:53 PM (Bdeb0)

189 I've absolutely zero sympathy for anyone that works for the EPA, having dealt with them over the past decade in the field of waste (sewage) management. Aside from a handful of people who practiced common sense, the majority were true bureaucrats with absolutely zero common sense and limited knowledge beyond their books and rule sets. That place could use a thorough and comprehensive house cleaning.

Posted by: billygoat at January 26, 2017 02:53 PM (x0jsg)

190 >>>Applying for anything from the government is not a trivial exercise for anyone.

And yet, the least educated people in society manage to sponge up so many benefits.

Posted by: V the K at January 26, 2017 02:53 PM (O7MnT)

191 165 We have two cultures in this country:

===
Adults and emotionally stunted adults.


======

Adults and WATBs

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 02:53 PM (Om16U)

192 Speaking of grants, if the 'science is settled,' why do we still give out so many grants for climate change research? Shouldn't we shut it all down?

Obviously, yes.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 02:54 PM (xeeHA)

193 If they're going to freak out anyway, might as well just do everything we always wanted to.

There's no way Trump's tenure is going to be anything less than war. There's no middle ground reaching out to these people.

I would just start firing as many people as I could and replacing, not just agency heads.

Posted by: Maritime at January 26, 2017 02:54 PM (RYUuq)

194

interesting post

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 02:54 PM (nQgx9)

195 I'm guessing this crap is happening in the DC area. I certainly haven't seen any crying or need for counseling in my little corner of governmentdom.

Posted by: Scott-High Plains Deplorable at January 26, 2017 02:55 PM (998Ee)

196 170 I work at EPA and have not seen anyone crying. It was more of a stunned silence and funereal mood. Younger workers and more recent hires are probably the most worried for their jobs.

The freeze on grants have made a lot of phones ring as people who are applying don't know if they are wasting effort. Reasonable people can disagree on the necessity for these programs, but applying for anything from the government is not a trivial exercise for anyone.
Posted by: EPA Employee at January 26, 2017 02:50 PM (rvgcl)

Uncertainty at work is nothing to be sneezed at. However, considering the actions of the agency over the past few years combined with how a lot of people in the private sector have been going through the same thing for 8 years (cost of living raises, no upward mobility at the company, etc) and you will understand that the tears of EPA employees fall on sodden ground.

As with anything, do your job, and if the worst happens find something else. Hopefully if Trump's plans succeed we will have more of 'something else' to go to.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 02:55 PM (92kX2)

197 189 I've absolutely zero sympathy for anyone that works for the EPA, having dealt with them over the past decade in the field of waste (sewage) management. Aside from a handful of people who practiced common sense, the majority were true bureaucrats with absolutely zero common sense and limited knowledge beyond their books and rule sets. That place could use a thorough and comprehensive house cleaning.
Posted by: billygoat at January 26, 2017 02:53 PM (x0jsg)

I say we dust off and nuke it from orbit, just to be sure. The fires from decades of environmental impact statements burning up should finish the cleansing.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 26, 2017 02:55 PM (E/DK1)

198 Yep. Privatize Big Bird.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 02:55 PM (JBggj)

199 Lefty tears make the grass grow greener.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 26, 2017 02:56 PM (OVJcF)

200 The EPA's Colorado river spill where three million gallons of "The Worst Stuff on Earth"(TM) sluiced down the river could be a worse long-term ecological disaster than the Deep Water Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. We won't know because of the Cone of Silence the EPA imposed.

At the time of the Gulf spill I did a rough calculation that the oil spilled would fill Yankee Stadium to the brim were the Stadium turned into an enclosed pool. That's a lot of spillage, but not so much in the huge Gulf of Mexico that has an average depth of 5,000 feet. Given that oil is organic, I expected the Gulf would self-clean in a couple of years, which it apparently has.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 26, 2017 02:56 PM (SIY7D)

201 As a life-long Environmentalist, I can't see how Trump will be able to stem the tide of fatal pollution in our country. Humanities run will end earlier because of this.....

Posted by: Bill Wynn at January 26, 2017 02:56 PM (jjaLl)

202 I'm getting whiplash from these threads

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2017 02:56 PM (sRFAL)

203 You WANT us on that Wall! You NEED us on that wall! YOU DO! YOU DO! YOU DO!
QUIT MAKING FUN OF US!!!
Posted by: Your Dedicated Public Servants at the EPA at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (qJhUV)

-----

You know..... fuck you.

I have to consent to two of your fucking audits per year per state I do business in.

You have NEVER fined fined me for jobsite deficiencies. ALL of your fines were for "documentation irregularities". The amount of REVENUE GENEATION you fucknuts have levied would have funded another full time person on staff for a year.

Go.the.fuck.away.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 02:56 PM (8XRCm)

204 There's no crying in EPA Science!


There's no crying on gubamint service!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2017 02:56 PM (JO9+V)

205 It's one of the more wonderful details of "Ghostbusters" that the antagonist was an EPA bureaucrat.

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 02:56 PM (7HtZB)

206 >>That's bullshit. I just watched a PBS special on Rachel Carson. If it
weren't for people like her, and the Federal Government, we'd all be
dead.


Heh.
I caught part of that Rachel Carson special - uh, what was the deal with her neighbor? Were they trying to say something without really saying it or what?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2017 02:57 PM (NOIQH)

207 You're doing a job. Yes, I get that you want fellow travelers to keep writing those sweet, sweet checks for uncontested "Science!", but you are not saving the world any more than a 3rd shift high school dropout transferring digester waste to a drying bed at a county wastewater plant while listening to Motley Crue on his ipod.

Do your job or get out.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 26, 2017 02:57 PM (Halhc)

208 What's Nood?

Posted by: Jaimo at January 26, 2017 02:57 PM (9U1OG)

209 Is it me or does shep looking more and more like a penis every day?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2017 02:57 PM (sRFAL)

210 "Tears Are Falling"

I read your mind like an open book
You lost the fire in your eyes
You turn to me with a different look
And then it's raining, looks like it's raining

Oh no, tears are falling




http://tinyurl.com/jsc4p94


Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 02:57 PM (toH8T)

211 >>Posted by: Bill Wynn at January 26, 2017 02:56 PM (jjaLl)


The Pussies are one Thread down.

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 02:57 PM (OhOyF)

212 I work at EPA and have not seen anyone crying

Comrades, we must double our efforts.

I want to see those bitches crying like Brett Favre.

Posted by: V the K at January 26, 2017 02:57 PM (O7MnT)

213 josephistan - yesterday you made a comment about PBY aircraft being converted into luxury travel vehicles. It actually happened! Rightcha here on this blog, somebody a year or two ago linked an article on PBY conversions done in the 1950s/60s.


It was at a site called messynessychic - you can find it. Just FYI.
Posted by: rhomboid
---------

The Catalina video linked by Anna Puma is terrific. Worth the watch. I'm not sure when it was made, but it interestingly refers to the Aleutians as 'part of the Alaskan Territory'. So, pre-statehood.

The film segments of the Consolidated factory at work are especially gratifying. The way things used to be.

'tis here: http://tinyurl.com/j865tum

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 02:57 PM (NBHj5)

214 It's alright to cry.

Just do it in your damn closet at home. And don't come out until the puffy in your eyes goes down so nobody ever knows.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 26, 2017 02:58 PM (yL25O)

215 201 As a life-long Environmentalist, I can't see how Trump will be able to stem the tide of fatal pollution in our country. Humanities run will end earlier because of this.....
Posted by: Bill Wynn at January 26, 2017 02:56 PM (jjaLl)

*ahem*

The AOSHQ style guide dictates a mention of exit poll results when Bill Wynn posts.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 02:58 PM (92kX2)

216 I'm sure if President Trump realizes he is making people cry he will stop winning and resign.

Posted by: Weasel at January 26, 2017 02:58 PM (C8aCP)

217 189 I've absolutely zero sympathy for anyone that works for the EPA, having dealt with them over the past decade in the field of waste (sewage) management. Aside from a handful of people who practiced common sense, the majority were true bureaucrats with absolutely zero common sense and limited knowledge beyond their books and rule sets. That place could use a thorough and comprehensive house cleaning.
Posted by: billygoat at January 26, 2017 02:53 PM (x0jsg)

==========================

My wife works as a legal secretary and has stories about the EPA. If you're an average Joe and the EPA is after you, forget it. Doesn't matter how innocent the mistake is, or if the EPA is clearly mistaken in their accusation, the EPA will use the process as punishment. Not many people can afford the 6 figures, and up, it will cost for a legal battle.

Posted by: Blake at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (qC1Sy)

218 209 Is it me or does shep looking more and more like a penis every day?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2017 02:57 PM (sRFAL)

I'll play: You are what you eat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (92kX2)

219 209 Is it me or does shep looking more and more like a penis every day?

You are what you eat.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (jsWA8)

220 Story in USA Today about how some (I'm assuming) leftist economist group is calling the U.S. a flawed democracy because of its lack of faith in government and political parties. (I'm certain this came out because of Trump's win)

To me, this seems pretty healthy, under the current fucked up circumstances.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (Gh3fw)

221
#205

It's one of the more wonderful details of "Ghostbusters" that the antagonist was an EPA bureaucrat.
=========================

And the target of one of Bill Murray's best lines in the movie.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (JBggj)

222 You owe me a coke.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (jsWA8)

223 >>202
I'm getting whiplash from these threads Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2017 02:56 PM (sRFAL)

Whipfap? Faplash?

Whatever it's called, it probably describes the chuckling "holy shit, did you hear what Trump did *today*?" nightly happy hour conversation between the Mrs. and Zod.

Posted by: General Zod at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (Bdeb0)

224 80 I'm wondering what's going to happen when most of this generation of cry babies (I'm thinking mostly of this generation of college students) flood the job market.

Things are going to get very ugly very fast.
Posted by: Biergood at January 26, 2017 02:17 PM (v8Lx/)

They'll get hired left and right to fill quotas and because they went to the "right" schools and crowd out serious, competent people.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (0mRoj)

225 Thou tellest my wanderings, put thou my tears into thy bottle, are they not in thy book?

Posted by: Prayers the EPA will never speak at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (ndGCC)

226
You know?

You are what you eat.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 26, 2017 03:00 PM (toH8T)

227 Oh the pain, the pain.

Posted by: Dr. Smith at January 26, 2017 03:00 PM (JO9+V)

228 As a life-long Environmentalist, I can't see how Trump will be able to stem the tide of fatal pollution in our country. Humanities Humanity's run will end earlier because of this.....

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 26, 2017 03:00 PM (Nwg0u)

229 And the target of one of Bill Murray's best lines in the movie.
Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (JBggj)

"Is this true?"

"Yes, Sir. It's true. This man has no dick."

"Well that's what I heard."

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:00 PM (92kX2)

230 Jane Austen called this "Sense and Sensibility."

Posted by: Pious Agnostic at January 26, 2017 03:00 PM (cYuFu)

231 I'm getting whiplash from these threads
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Well, Navy uniforms are a bit flashy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (NBHj5)

232 >>I work at EPA and have not seen anyone crying. It was more of a stunned silence and funereal mood. Younger workers and more recent hires are probably the most worried for their jobs.

I feel for anyone who is worried about their job. It's very stressful.

But perhaps this can be a learning experience for federal workers who cared not a wit about private sector workers, the folks who have been breaking our balls to pay for all these seemingly untouchable federal jobs forever. Maybe if the feds didn't treat us like an ATM they can shit on whenever they want, or whenever they weren't shitting in the hallways, there would be a lot more compassion shown to them.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (/tuJf)

233 She had been dis-invited from visiting a dear friend with whom she had always spent Christmas. The "friend" suspected that my student's boyfriend had voted for Trump. In the student's case, I don't think she was being infantile. Her "friend" was. Posted by: Emmie at January 26, 2017 02:49 PM (xVuS6)

Sorting is time-consuming and expensive. Send them both to the camp.
Posted by: General Zod



Both.

But the student got a quick lesson on the definition of "friend".

Posted by: rickb223 at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (qbcrG)

234 ITS FUNNY BECAUSE HE WOULD BE EATING PENISES!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (xeeHA)

235 Too bad they weren't allowed counseling beforehand, but I also seem to remember the Ceausescus crying as they were lined up against a wall before being shot.

Posted by: The Fabulous D-Man at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (S97gV)

236 222 You owe me a coke.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 02:59 PM (jsWA

We need a vending machine installed beside the barrel. It happens a lot here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (92kX2)

237 The EPA never should have been created. One of Nixon's biggest mistake.

Way too powerful of a federal agency that can conjure up so many regulations on a whim. It can completely shut down domestic commerce with bullshit science.

Posted by: Maritime at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (RYUuq)

238 " Drain the Swamp".... a small phrase with huge implications.

Sort of like " Fundamentally Transform America".

How does that ass taste now, Progressives?

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (BQ5O8)

239 In other news, from the London Messenger:

"Giant Dick Continues to Grow"

" A giant dick that was first discovered in the early morning hours of November 9th, 2016 has continued to grow, both in size and hardness. Today, the dick made landfall in Wales and now threatens the English countryside.

Scientists have traced the origin of the boner to a home in Roanoke, Virginia that is the residence of Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, who had an alias of "MrCaniac" for years.

Some scientists are attributing the giant boner to the election of Donald J Trump as President of the United States, but a consensus of 97% of scientist blame Climate Change. "

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at January 26, 2017 03:02 PM (1JnAL)

240 My wife works as a legal secretary and has stories about the EPA. If you're an average Joe and the EPA is after you, forget it. Doesn't matter how innocent the mistake is, or if the EPA is clearly mistaken in their accusation, the EPA will use the process as punishment.

-
EPA, KGB, pretty much the same thing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 26, 2017 03:02 PM (Nwg0u)

241 Story in USA Today about how some (I'm assuming) leftist economist group is calling the U.S. a flawed democracy
--------------

Republic. Feature, not flaw.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (NBHj5)

242 I'm not drinking anything near that barrel.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (jsWA8)

243 144 130 Took almost a week, but you knew it was coming...

Shelters Under Pressure As Homeless Numbers Soar

Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (qJhUV)

...

Hey! What gives? These hobos don't even stink yet!

Posted by: Vintage Hobo Collector at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (zke7T)

244 Don't federal jobs have a 99% retention rate?

If someone is right now worried about their job security, think about those of us in the real world.

Posted by: Maritime at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (RYUuq)

245 235 Too bad they weren't allowed counseling beforehand, but I also seem to remember the Ceausescus crying as they were lined up against a wall before being shot.
Posted by: The Fabulous D-Man at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (S97gV)

And yet Louis XVI went to the Guillotine with head held high in a regal manner.

Ace's two cultures again.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (92kX2)

246 The AOSHQ style guide dictates a mention of exit poll results when Bill Wynn posts.

I think it's his evil sock twin

Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (qJhUV)

247 One of Ayn Rand's best essays was "Apollo and Dionysus", which compared and contrasted Apollo 11 and Woodstock, which happened only about three weeks apart in the summer of 1969.

Posted by: rickl at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (zoehZ)

248 28 In ye olden times, people wanted to grow up and be an adult with all of the autonomy and status that adulthood implied. Then everybody on the left decided they wanted to be teenagers forever. Now they all want to be toddlers. Nowhere to go from there but the fetal stage.

Posted by: Sunni LaBeouf at January 26, 2017 02:10 PM (dargh)

and although I don't support abortion I believe exceptions can be made

Posted by: the Butcher at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (AGJqR)

249 ty roundabout way of saying these people are pussies.

Posted by: Clint Eastwood at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (xiiES)

250 The EPA never should have been created. One of Nixon's biggest mistake.
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You're welcome.

Posted by: Rachel Carson at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (NBHj5)

251 Took almost a week, but you knew it was coming...

Shelters Under Pressure As Homeless Numbers Soar

Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (qJhUV)

...

Hey! What gives? These hobos don't even stink yet!
Posted by: Vintage Hobo Collector at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (zke7T)
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I wonder of Soros pays people to go to homeless shelters so they look fuller.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (xeeHA)

252 237 The EPA never should have been created. One of Nixon's biggest mistake.

Way too powerful of a federal agency that can conjure up so many regulations on a whim. It can completely shut down domestic commerce with bullshit science.
Posted by: Maritime at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (RYUuq)

I agree that it's out of control.

However....

People were being rather... flippant when it came to polluting. Turns out that if you don't take care of your $hit, someone is going to get the government to take care of it for you.

See also:

-OSHA
-Securities Exchange Commission

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (8hICw)

253 Retrain the functional EPA employees as wall builders .

win/win

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (toH8T)

254 So, you have a bunch of twenty-somethings whose only jobs were in the EPA during Obama. And now they have to deal with the same performance-based job security criteria the rest of us live under. Must be a shock to suddenly realize you can be fired for having a useless occupation.

Posted by: red speck at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (RcEOo)

255 I also seem to remember the Ceausescus crying as they were lined up against a wall before being shot.
Posted by: The Fabulous D-Man at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (S97gV)


They ran around like chickens without heads

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (sRFAL)

256 1. Clint Eastwood in his various westerns
or
2. Shelly Duvall in the Shining

The left has chosen poorly.

Posted by: wooga at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (3I7wr)

257 It's BACK!

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (TppKb)

258 Fire everyone with tear streaks.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 26, 2017 03:05 PM (cAnNx)

259 242 I'm not drinking anything near that barrel.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (jsWA

*looks around*

We could put it between Ben and Amy's podiums over there. Might get kind of annoying with him shouting and her just repeating what he says.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:05 PM (92kX2)

260 I wonder if Soros pays people to go to homeless shelters so they look fuller.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (xeeHA)
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Well, I am a moron.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:05 PM (xeeHA)

261 And what was Fonzy like?

Just bearable.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

*****


Are you thinking of Fozzie perhaps?


Ayyyyyyy!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 26, 2017 03:05 PM (wPiJc)

262 I think the left is like the Maenads, myself. Only of course without the hot naked women part.... well, maybe just without the hot part.

Completely out of control screaming fanatics who want to rip you apart limb from limb?

Yeah, sounds like the left to me.

Posted by: Vanceone at January 26, 2017 03:05 PM (KbgjX)

263 Speaking of PBS, I hope they're going to be spun off soon. I saw the other day some GOPe senator (I think it was Hatch) complaining that there don't need to be any cuts to discretionary spending because it is under control and you need to target medicare and social security.

Fair point to be honest. But what they don't understand is that the left's sacred cows need to be slaughtered.

Posted by: Independent George at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (BDZWU)

++++

Cutting medicare and social security can never succeed as long as the federal government can find the money to fund stuff like cowboy poetry and PBS. You will never convince people that we just have to give grandma less while at the same time we are saying we don't need to cut the other stuff.

Yes, it is true that the size of medicare / ss is massive compared to the rest of it and that if you really want to make a dent in spending, you have to go to where the spending takes place. But, it has to start with the frivolous stuff. If we can't even muster the will to cut the frivolous stuff, we will never convince anyone that there is no choice but to make the harder cuts.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 26, 2017 03:05 PM (R+30W)

264 There is nothing wrong with these people that a well connected roundhouse kick couldn“t cure.

Posted by: Chuck Norris at January 26, 2017 03:06 PM (xiiES)

Posted by: Agent Cooper at January 26, 2017 03:06 PM (1zARK)

266 The EPA did excellent work when it was created. It was a necessary government intervention. They did such a good job they worked themselves out of things to do so they made shit up.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 26, 2017 03:06 PM (OVJcF)

267 Mr. President... it's too much winning. Please stop it.

Posted by: Mega at January 26, 2017 03:06 PM (VIiRP)

268 Thank God for Trump!!

His speech to DHS yesterday has finally given me the means to deliver us of crazy emo narcissist auntie. She has been here for decades, still hasn't been naturalized. All it will take is one phone call to Homeland Security to tell them the whereabouts of a known terrorist:

Me: Hello, Homeland Security?

Them: Yes, we must advise you this is a recorded line.

Me: I am calling to report a foreign terrorist. She may be tiny and petite and thin, but don't let appearances fool you; she'll stab you in the throat in a NY minute.

I really hope she hasn't renewed her green card.

Posted by: kallisto at January 26, 2017 03:06 PM (nNdYv)

269 267 Mr. President... it's too much winning. Please stop it.
Posted by: Mega at January 26, 2017 03:06 PM (VIiRP

Heh.

We all know you're lying.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:06 PM (8hICw)

270 *SOB*

Posted by: Adult Babies in Gub'mint at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (vtcmf)

271 -OSHA
-Securities Exchange Commission
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (8hICw)

Granted, but again, it does point out what happens when you create a government agency to work on a problem. You create it, the problem abates, and then leftists infest it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (92kX2)

272 198 Yep. Privatize Big Bird.
Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 02:55 PM (JBggj)

We did.

Posted by: HBO at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (1JnAL)

273 >>>113 I believe that the emotional distress on the left is real and deep (even if exaggerated for display purposes in some). I just wish our government were powerless enough not to prompt such emotions.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (zSMr0)

wut?

Posted by: m at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (3jGss)

274 Uncertainty at work is nothing to be sneezed at. However, considering the actions of the agency over the past few years combined with how a lot of people in the private sector have been going through the same thing for 8 years (cost of living raises, no upward mobility at the company, etc) and you will understand that the tears of EPA employees fall on sodden ground.

Well said. I have sympathy with people worried about their future, but that sympathy is tempered by the behavior that led them to this place.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (39g3+)

275
Posted by: kallisto at January 26, 2017 03:06 PM (nNdYv)

LOLOLOL

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (Om16U)

276 No mas!

Posted by: El Presidente De Mexico at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (oVJmc)

277 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAAA!!!!!


*deep breath**

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

OH PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET THERE BE A VIDEO OF THEM CRYING!

So I can watch when I'm bored. Or I feel like laughing that hard again. Or maybe just put on a loop and watch 24-7.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (1zARK)

278 I agree that it's out of control.

However....

People were being rather... flippant when it came to polluting. Turns out that if you don't take care of your $hit, someone is going to get the government to take care of it for you.

See also:

-OSHA
-Securities Exchange Commission
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

_________


I think you can still pass laws without creating such a huge, weaponized bureaucracy.

Sort of like HomeLand Security, sure we needed better security at airports, but look at what that's become?

Posted by: Maritime at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (RYUuq)

279 171 More winning - obamam appointed Border Patrol Chief Mark Morgan resigns

http://tinyurl.com/harkp7d
Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 02:50 PM (7HtZB)
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The way I see it, as soon as Kelly got sworn in, he made the call and said "I want your resignation by Wednesday"

Posted by: WisRich at January 26, 2017 03:08 PM (hdpay)

280 2. Shelly Duvall in the Shining

The left has chosen poorly.


Jo Ann Harris in The Beguiled.

I've got something to do now...

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 03:08 PM (TppKb)

281 I had chunks of people like this in my stool.

Posted by: Zombie Frank Sinatra at January 26, 2017 03:08 PM (xiiES)

282 At first its starts with one lowly turd in the hallway and then, BAM, it quickly escalates to mass hysteria, quivering lips and sobbing.

Posted by: Fritz at January 26, 2017 03:08 PM (2Mnv1)

283 Zerohedge says the EPA loons have created a rogue twitter so 'the core values of the EPA can be protected.'

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:08 PM (xeeHA)

284 I have a left-wing friend who works for the VA in the Midwest. She's one of the Emoters, or whatever we want to call them. Every day since the election has produced an unhinged rant on Facebook. This just doesn't seem healthy.

Her latest is that she now goes to work every day not sure if she'll still have a job at the end of the day. First of all, let's dispense with the obvious: YOU WORK FOR THE VA! Your department has performed miserably. If I worked for the Cleveland Browns, I'd also be worried if I'd still have a job at the end of the day, but at least give the Browns credit - They never killed anyone this year!

But on top of that, isn't that what all of us in the private sector deal with every day? You do your job to the best of your ability, and the rest of it is out of your hands. Emoting doesn't change anything; it just sort of makes you look like a teenager, and that's never a good thing.

Posted by: Ted K. at January 26, 2017 03:08 PM (seSmy)

285 The good news is that scientist at the EPA are working on a system to channel those tears to power jet packs for fighting fires.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 26, 2017 03:09 PM (LWu6U)

286 Granted, but again, it does point out what happens when you create a government agency to work on a problem. You create it, the problem abates, and then leftists infest it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (92kX2)

Like roaches brought in with the potatoes.

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 03:09 PM (BQ5O8)

287 Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (Om16U)

I can't wait to share the plan with my cousin!

Posted by: kallisto at January 26, 2017 03:09 PM (nNdYv)

288 113 I believe that the emotional distress on the left is real and deep (even if exaggerated for display purposes in some). I just wish our government were powerless enough not to prompt such emotions.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (zSMr0)

This. A thousand times this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:09 PM (92kX2)

289 271 -OSHA
-Securities Exchange Commission
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (8hICw)

Granted, but again, it does point out what happens when you create a government agency to work on a problem. You create it, the problem abates, and then leftists infest it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (92kX2)

I know. I'm not saying it's right. Just that self-control/governance/policing is necessary for our system of government. At least that it used to be.

Just because you can dump all that crap in the river doesn't mean that you should.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:09 PM (8hICw)

290 I see Ace posted this from the future again. With that time machine he totally doesn't have.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2017 03:09 PM (PY9jH)

291 Mike, that is a great PBY video. I noted on the ONT that it was fun seeing 1930s San Diego, picking out the landmarks and locations - was actually easy.


The video has some oddities (besides "Alaska Territory" - which may be as you say due to when it was produced). Dutch Harbor was not the target of the Japanese operation - duh - Attu and Kiska were. Also - "Japanese U-boats"?


Anyway, very interesting.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 03:09 PM (QDnY+)

292 Is distrust of public institutions really a sign of a "flawed democracy?" Would blind, unquestioning faith in the vessels and appendages of government be a legitimate indication of a healthy body politic? One thing the article does not address is how the public lost its trust in public institutions. (We now that our institutional ruling class blames "talk radio" for deceiving the public about all the wondrous good Government does. But if a Government fails at such basic tasks as securing the border, being a responsible steward of public finances, using the world's largest and best military to defeat a bunch of goatherds driving Toyota pickup trucks in less than a decade, providing a half-decent education for the nation's youth, or maintaining infrastructure... these are the things that cause people to lose trust.

Posted by: V the K at January 26, 2017 03:09 PM (O7MnT)

293 There is nothing wrong with these people that a well connected roundhouse kick could not cure.

Posted by: Chuck Norris at January 26, 2017 03:06 PM (xiiES)

Yep. And the best part is, even of you warn them what's coming, they ain't a danged thing they can do about it.

Posted by: Billy Jack at January 26, 2017 03:10 PM (JO9+V)

294 286 Granted, but again, it does point out what happens when you create a government agency to work on a problem. You create it, the problem abates, and then leftists infest it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (92kX2)

Like roaches brought in with the potatoes.
Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 03:09 PM (BQ5O

Except the TSA came pre-infested for our convenience.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:10 PM (92kX2)

295 >>Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (/tuJf)

JackStraw Johson is Right!

Posted by: garrett johnson at January 26, 2017 03:10 PM (OhOyF)

296 Cutting medicare and social security can never succeed as long as the federal government can find the money to fund stuff like cowboy poetry and PBS. You will never convince people that we just have to give grandma less while at the same time we are saying we don't need to cut the other stuff.

Yes, it is true that the size of medicare / ss is massive compared to the rest of it and that if you really want to make a dent in spending, you have to go to where the spending takes place. But, it has to start with the frivolous stuff. If we can't even muster the will to cut the frivolous stuff, we will never convince anyone that there is no choice but to make the harder cuts.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
__________


I just don't want to hear about MediCare or Social Security cuts a long as there are things like ObamaPhones and government housing.

Can we at least cut the parasites off first?

Posted by: Maritime at January 26, 2017 03:10 PM (RYUuq)

297 Well said. I have sympathy with people worried about their future, but that sympathy is tempered by the behavior that led them to this place.

30% of EPA staff probably deserves that level of consideration.

70% needs to be chased out of DC with flame-whips.

I think my previous comment on the success of a GOP Presidency was a 40% fall in Beltway real estate values, and that still holds.

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 03:10 PM (TppKb)

298 Remember when they used to make fun of us for being so AFRAID and ANGRY??

Remember every day for the last eight fucking years?

And the promise of an eternity of it under Hillary, then Castro, then Michelle, then Chelsea, then the other Castro?

Well Pepperidge Motherfucking Farm Remembers, Fucknozzles

Posted by: Mega at January 26, 2017 03:10 PM (VIiRP)

299 #272

198 Yep. Privatize Big Bird.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 02:55 PM (JBggj)



We did.
==================

(Gary Oldman voice)

All of it!

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 03:10 PM (JBggj)

300 295 >>Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (/tuJf)

JackStraw Johson is Right!
Posted by: garrett johnson at January 26, 2017 03:10 PM (OhOyF)

Garret Johnson is right about JackStraw Johnson being right!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson at January 26, 2017 03:11 PM (92kX2)

301 Yes, when I am at my shrieking harridan most, that's when I'm most persuasive. Totes.

I lost it at my boss a few months ago and I'm still horribly ashamed. Mind you, I was correct about the underlying issue and it was mostly since he hadn't paid attention to me being professional, maybe acting like a screaming child will work. But I'm still ashamed because it was just wrong.

Sadly, it worked and he did finally do the thing after lecturing me (which I deserved!) for a bit so that was kind of mixed message there. But still. It was wrong and it was embarrassing.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 26, 2017 03:12 PM (mf5HN)

302 "Given that oil is organic, I expected the Gulf would self-clean in a couple of years, which it apparently has."

I recall the public reaction here in the SF Bay Area. It was absolutely batshit insane irrational hysteria.

Every second reader comment at the _San Francisco Comical_ was about how the Gulf was permanently ruined, its biology and fisheries destroyed irrevocably, and would be a sterile azoic zone for all eternity, a monument to the foolishness of fossil fuels, and when will we ever learn that we must Go Green?

Posted by: torquewrench at January 26, 2017 03:12 PM (noWW6)

303 Send them all to ISIS as sex slaves.

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 26, 2017 03:12 PM (ONH2e)

304 I'm agent Johnson and this is agent Johnson.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:12 PM (xeeHA)

305 >>Zerohedge says the EPA loons have created a rogue twitter so 'the core values of the EPA can be protected.'


So has NASA.

These people are calling themselves "The Resistance" like they're in a Star Wars movie. It's sad, really. They haven't yet realized they aren't outsiders, they're the cogs of the oppressive federal government, the rule enforcers.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2017 03:12 PM (NOIQH)

306 117 I'm noticing an odd similarity between these EPA workers and the college students when they demand their safe spaces from Milo speaking.

Weird, isn't it?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 26, 2017 02:42 PM (KUaJL)

It's a mistake to think all those SJWs will be working as baristas after graduation. Those are the ones who end up in the bureaucracy - or in the HR Dept. They want to draw a paycheck for bullying people.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 26, 2017 03:12 PM (ZM2xo)

307 Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 02:48 PM (/tuJf)

I forget, are you in MA? I have a friend in Peeeebuddy who wanted to berm up her backyard a bit to do something (what that was I no can longer remember) but she couldn't because doing so might cause some soil to fall into a slightly mucky strip of land that is 200 yards away from the back of her house.

You can't make this shit up.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 03:12 PM (kqtMD)

308 th

Posted by: brdavis9 at January 26, 2017 03:13 PM (xk+SM)

309 Their tears are delicious. Like nectar of the Gods.

That's just a little taste of what most of the country has felt like for eight years as you dick stomped their liberties and future for your liberal cult.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 26, 2017 03:13 PM (llUHc)

310 Zerohedge says the EPA loons have created a rogue twitter so 'the core values of the EPA can be protected.'

Rum, sodomy, and the lash?

Napalm them.

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 03:13 PM (TppKb)

311 I see Ace posted this from the future again.

We're going to win so much, you'll get tired of winning.

You'll literally time travel into the future just to skip past the winning.

Posted by: Donald J. TRUMP at January 26, 2017 03:13 PM (4bKiB)

Posted by: Donald J. TRUMP at January 26, 2017 03:13 PM (4bKiB)

313 Environmental Protection Agency employees have not accepted Donald Trump's victory and are still "coming to work in tears" more than two months after the election.

... and they've evidently opened rogue Twitter accounts to snipe at Trump from their Towers of Pure Science (TM)

ZeroHedge: http://tinyurl.com/gwfxyrs
Forbes: http://tinyurl.com/j3ot9fk

Posted by: crisis du jour at January 26, 2017 03:13 PM (+S0Qh)

314 Wacka, wacka, wacka.

Posted by: Annoying Fozzie da Bear at January 26, 2017 03:13 PM (suO/a)

315 People were being rather... flippant when it came to polluting. Turns out that if you don't take care of your $hit, someone is going to get the government to take care of it for you.

Yes, I agree. If you will not self-police and do what is right, eventually you'll be forced to by someone, even by force. This is the flaw in the free market and capitalism that some people absolutely refuse to admit to: it can get really ugly for a long time. Without the government forcing Rockefeller to break up his oil monopoly, in a totally free market he'd still control all oil and charge 18 bucks a gallon, because what the hell would we do?

The answer of course is a just and moral society, a people with virtue so that they have pressure from within them to do what is right even if it means less short term gain. However much you want to mock religion or think its awful, that hope of a better life and a reward at some future point can be stronger than an immediate reward, and produce very positive results on earth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:13 PM (39g3+)

316 Are taxpayers footing the bill for counselling, etc?

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at January 26, 2017 03:13 PM (TdCQk)

317 243 144 130 Took almost a week, but you knew it was coming...

Shelters Under Pressure As Homeless Numbers Soar

Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (qJhUV)

I totally called this, as did others. It's just what they do.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (0mRoj)

318 Another run amok agency, the California Franchise Tax Board.

They collect business taxes for the state.

We've been tagged in a mafia-like shakedown. They insist we pay a state corporate income tax because we had a single employee in CA for less than a year. CA shares info among agencies, in this case the employee's paying CA personal income taxes got shared with the CA corporrate tax authority. They're very wrong on the law but we'd have to spend a lot to defend ourselves.

As I've looked into it, there are horror stories far worse than ours. You're especially at risk if you or your business leaves CA. Bank assets getting grabbed without notice, etc.

They don't go after the big guys the way they go after smaller businesses.

So I'm rethinking this California secession thing.

Seriously, the Trump folks should go after this.

Fuck Jerry Brown, hard.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (SIY7D)

319 Oh, yikes

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (TppKb)

320 Sigh... hope he redecorates the barrel while he's in there.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (4bKiB)

321 I HUNGER!

Posted by: The Barrel at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (92kX2)

322 Don't try weeping in the Barrel. It just stirs certain things up. {{shudder}}

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (PY9jH)

323 oops

Posted by: brdavis9 at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (xk+SM)

324

brdavis9 please report to the barrel. Unless Tammy opened a rogue tag at the end of her post.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (8hICw)

325 Great post, Ace.

I was thinking about this yesterday, the left's histrionics. I think so much of it is misplaced bitter frustration that the fairytale fed to them by the media--namely, that all but a few backwater troglodytes subscribed to their fake feminism, social justice, and celebration of the bankrupting and Balkanization of the US--was proven to be a lie.

They are like children learning there is no santa and suddenly placed in the uncomfortable position of perhaps coming to terms with the worldview-altering implications: what else have my media betters lied to me about?

Rather than grapple with this cognitive dissonance to form better understanding, they've decided to chuck all their toys out of the proverbial pram.

Blame not the deceivers! Blame those who refused to make the make-believe true!

Posted by: circumlocutious at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (n2r4H)

326 OH PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET THERE BE A VIDEO OF THEM CRYING!

So I can watch when I'm bored. Or I feel like laughing that hard again. Or maybe just put on a loop and watch 24-7.



Posted by: Agent Cooper at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (1zARK)

In the meantime, it is near certainty to be identical to the tree huggers crying.
To wit: https://youtu.be/tFUDEmMjC-c

Posted by: Billy Jack at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (JO9+V)

327 Drew Carey's 11 year old son may have started a fire at the inauguration and said "Screw our President":, NY magazine calls him coyly a "pint sized fire starter" Fox News doesn't sound so enraptured:

http://tinyurl.com/hddxxxc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (fDdVG)

328 Sadly, it worked and he did finally do the thing after lecturing me (which I deserved!) for a bit so that was kind of mixed message there. But still. It was wrong and it was embarrassing.
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 26, 2017 03:12 PM (mf5HN)


So, finally, it puts the lotion on its's skin. Was that so hard?

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (BQ5O8)

329 "I work at EPA and have not seen anyone crying. It was more of a stunned silence and funereal mood. Younger workers and more recent hires are probably the most worried for their jobs."

Don't worry. I understand from the press that Trump is being handed an economy by Obama that's absolutely humming with activity and bursting with opportunity. So there ought not to be any lack of jobs for them on the outside. Why, prospective employers will be lining up and begging tearfully for their favor.

Until Trump clumsily ruins the Obama economic miracle, that is.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (noWW6)

330 Her latest is that she now goes to work every day not sure if she'll still have a job at the end of the day.

Went seven years without a job, due in no small part to her efforts. I doubt that I'm alone.

Posted by: t-bird at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (2z74n)

331 >>I forget, are you in MA?

That's where my parents farm was, yep.

In few hundred years MA has gone from the seat of liberty to just the seat.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (/tuJf)

332 'the core values of the EPA can be protected.'

EPA Core Values:
1) Regulate
2) Litigate
3) Confiscate

..for the chirrens.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (ty7RM)

333 I think a blanket ban on using social media, even privately, is idiotic and wrong. Companies can control what workers do on company time, but have no say in what you do when you're off the job. They can fire you for whatever reason they want in Tayloria, but they can't tell you to not use social media at home.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (39g3+)

334 These people are calling themselves "The Resistance" like they're in a Star Wars movie. It's sad, really. They haven't yet realized they aren't outsiders, they're the cogs of the oppressive federal government, the rule enforcers.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2017 03:12 PM (NOIQH)
----------------

They are the ultimate insiders. They can literally reach out and destroy people's lives.

I feel like at the end of the Starship Troopers movie when Dougie Houser reads the mind of the bug and says gleefully, "It's afraid!"

The EPA is afraid. Good. They all should be. Now they know what it's like when THEY come knocking.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (xeeHA)

335 What? ... Where am I?....

The last thing I remember was Trump endorsing torture and the liberals going crazy over it. All the blood rushed to my schadenboner and I passed out.


Posted by: jwest at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (Zs4uk)

336 #276 - ha!


OK, the place I'd like to be eavesdropping today (it varies each day) - the Mexican president's inner circle of advisors.


I've tried to explain for years the part mass illegal migration to the US played in *delaying* Mexico's long-overdue reforms to be a more modern open economy and society. To clueless amnesty supporters and race-baited coastal clueless idiots - who of course are troubled, since "oh no! something bad for nice brown people! eleventy!".


Anyway, in Mexico's case, upheaval is a good thing. Trump may end up materially advancing the cause of modernization and justice in Mexico by crimping one of their main safety valves that has helped the oligarchy continue to keep the country in the past.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (QDnY+)

337 271 -OSHA
-Securities Exchange Commission
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (8hICw)

Granted, but again, it does point out what happens when you create a government agency to work on a problem. You create it, the problem abates, and then leftists infest it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:07 PM (92kX2)


The government way:

1. There is a problem
2. Citizens ask politicians to fix problem
3. Politicians create government program to fix problem
4. Problem gets fixed
5. Head of program starts to panic because job could go away
6. Head of program goes to politicians to get more money to make sure problem doesn't come back
7. Politicians give program more money
8. Citizens give government more money
9. Wash. Lather. Rinse. Repeat


In almost every case, once the results have been achieved, the program could die, but then the politician would be accused of wanting to go back to the problem time.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (1JnAL)

338 Winning is the new losing.

Posted by: Weasel at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (C8aCP)

339 322 Don't try weeping in the Barrel. It just stirs certain things up. {{shudder}}


That one thing in the corner tried to bite me last time. It's evolving.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? Taking My Time on my Ride at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (s/EUv)

340 Always up to spell it out again!

Two factions in this country; the Business Club, and the Drama Club.

We've just had eight years of Drama Club.

And although he certainly gets kinda flamboyant at times, President Trump, I think, has shown us over the last week that it's Business Club all the way from here on in.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (nd1zx)

341 That moment when you've realized the free-shit train has been derailed and you'll have to find GAINFUL employment in the REAL world.....

Posted by: Sponge at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (xttKs)

342 I prefer the Spartan approach.

Molon Labe.

Posted by: ALH at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (uLuPn)

343 318. So I'm rethinking this California secession thing.


Only, if they big a wall around it.

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (ONH2e)

344 It's gotten so bad, they don't have the energy to even shit in the halls anymore.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (GX63o)

345 327 Drew Carey's 11 year old son may have started a fire at the inauguration and said "Screw our President":, NY magazine calls him coyly a "pint sized fire starter" Fox News doesn't sound so enraptured:

http://tinyurl.com/hddxxxc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (fDdVG)

I thought Drew Carey was a conservative?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (ZM2xo)

346 If someone is right now worried about their job security, think about those of us in the real world.
Posted by: Maritime at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (RYUuq)

What is this "job" of which you speak?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (0mRoj)

347 What I was trying for was 52
Apollonian and Dionysian?

Have you been reading Paglia again?

*swat*

Bad Ewok!


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 26, 2017 02:11 PM (XWkhW


Thread winner.

...sorry.

Posted by: brdavis9 at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (xk+SM)

348 >>> THEY WON'T LET ME TWEET FROM THE OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT TWITTER ACCOUNT? FIRST AMENDMENT! NORTH KOREA! GEORGE ORWELL!
[mumbling]
Well yeah, of course I can still tweet from my personal account, but nobody reads it when I post . How am I supposed to spread propaganda intended to push a political agenda and enrich my colleagues and me if it only looks like my personal view and not that of the Agency? Posted by: EPA Worker at January 26, 2017 02:40 PM (wx6iv)


I KNOW RIGHT?!?!

Posted by: Ex National Parks Employee that hacked their twitter to spread climate data info at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (hvf9s)

349 323 oops
Posted by: brdavis9 at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (xk+SM)

Welcome to the AOSHQ. This is Ben and Amy. Carlos is around here somewhere. He has your membership packet.

Posted by: Greeter Johnson at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (92kX2)

350 "...But what they don't understand is that the left's sacred cows need to be slaughtered.
Posted by: Independent George at January 26, 2017 02:51 PM (BDZWU)...

'Gzactly.

"Oh, sweetie, the last thing you'll ever hear me say is 'You're fat. ..." (car cranks in the distance)

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (zke7T)

351 Fuck Jerry Brown, hard.

Well, my CA business is down to basically me at this point, but I'll keep my eyes and ears open.

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 03:17 PM (TppKb)

352 In almost every case, once the results have been achieved, the program could die, but then the politician would be accused of wanting to go back to the problem time.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at January 26, 2017 03:15 PM (1JnAL)

I'd love to make the process:

1)There is a problem
2) People who's problem it is FIGURE IT OUT WITHOUT COERCION OF THE GOVERNMENT

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:17 PM (8hICw)

353
Old:

"Billy Jack"
"Billy Jack Goes To Washington"

New:

?

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 03:18 PM (JBggj)

354
So, finally, it puts the lotion on its's skin. Was that so hard?
Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (BQ5O



Once I calmed down and fell all over myself apologizing and the boss got done very nicely lecturing me, he said okay now let me look at this and I was all oh ffs do not even tell me that this worked because no.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 26, 2017 03:18 PM (mf5HN)

355 Is it me or does shep looking more and more like a penis every day?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 26, 2017 02:57 PM (sRFAL)




This drink recipe (which was posted on a sports board that I frequent) for an authentic Ole Miss Hotty Toddy would explain it:


2oz Nyquil
1/2 Bottle of Zima
1 1/2 Xanax
1 tsp Liquid Estrogen
Serve in glass shaped like a flaccid penis

Posted by: Country Singer at January 26, 2017 03:18 PM (uiwCw)

356 Yes, our Barrel has corners. It was built by Morons, what did you expect?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? Taking My Time on my Ride at January 26, 2017 03:18 PM (s/EUv)

357 These people are calling themselves "The Resistance" like they're in a Star Wars movie. It's sad, really. They haven't yet realized they aren't outsiders, they're the cogs of the oppressive federal government, the rule enforcers.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2017 03:12 PM (NOIQH)

The new Disney Star Wars, where they fight Darth Emo & Snookie.

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:18 PM (7HtZB)

358 >>Winning is the new losing.

Of in the case of Trump vs Obama

Orange is the new Black!

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 03:18 PM (/tuJf)

359 brdavis9 please report to the barrel. Unless Tammy opened a rogue tag at the end of her post.

The slanted approach to the world for a few posts was me. Think someone else tidied it up before I closed-tagged it, but it was gone quickly...

Posted by: JEM at January 26, 2017 03:18 PM (TppKb)

360 I thought Drew Carey was a conservative?
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (ZM2xo)

Who can tell with all the Careys out there. They are almost as bad as the Johnsons.


Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson at January 26, 2017 03:19 PM (92kX2)

361
How is it stated in the real world?
"If you're not happy with job here you can resign and seek employment elsewhere."

Posted by: YIKES! at January 26, 2017 03:19 PM (yfObW)

362 People were being rather... flippant when it came to polluting. Turns out that if you don't take care of your $hit, someone is going to get the government to take care of it for you.
------------------------------------
The EPA was primarily a rationalization project to consolidate environmental regulation previously scattered about X agencies in Y departments with Z(ero) people really understanding "what the hell is going on."

Posted by: RioBravo at January 26, 2017 03:19 PM (SsblQ)

363 Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (8hICw)

I have the tags/brackets things in my nic, so hopefully not?

I ain't goin' anyway, mind you, but I don't think it was moi.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 03:19 PM (kqtMD)

364 Mariah Carey
Drew Carey
Tucum Carey

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? Taking My Time on my Ride at January 26, 2017 03:19 PM (s/EUv)

365 >>People were being rather... flippant when it came to polluting. Turns
out that if you don't take care of your $hit, someone is going to get
the government to take care of it for you.


And yet you have authorities who look the other way when when "new Americans" treat their new home like one big dumpster. See VDH's "Two Americas" columns about how his state's regulators and authorities stringently enforce laws when it comes to regular citizens who show up to court, pay fines, get building permits, etc. and completely ignore immigrants who live in shacks with crazy, homemade wiring that is not up to code, who dump trash on the highway, who collect no sales taxes on their unlicensed burrito truck sales, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2017 03:19 PM (NOIQH)

366 Meanwhile, the logic behind California's "armor piercing" bullet ban becomes clear. One of Obama's last order was to ban the use of lead ammunition on all federal lands.

Non-lead ammunition was almost entirely declared "armor piercing" under the California law.

This was a glimpse of the future under Hillary, the way they were gonna get around the 2nd amendment. And when challenged? The crazy broad Hillary put on court would swing it to just ignore the constitution anyway. Once its precedent well... hello America, everywhere.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:20 PM (39g3+)

367 Once I calmed down and fell all over myself apologizing and the boss got done very nicely lecturing me, he said okay now let me look at this and I was all oh ffs do not even tell me that this worked because no.
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 26, 2017 03:18 PM (mf5HN)


Ah. But you had to go all screamy. And boil a rabbit.

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 03:20 PM (BQ5O8)

368 Whatever happened to good old fashioned shouting matches followed by those involved getting back to work like nothing had happened.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 26, 2017 03:20 PM (hJrjt)

369 The slanted approach to the world for a few posts was me.

Ha - I thought it was me, too (wearing a Trump sock).

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 26, 2017 03:20 PM (10LGw)

370 I thought Drew Carey was a conservative?
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (ZM2xo)
-------

Doctrinaire libertarian?

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:20 PM (xeeHA)

371 368 Whatever happened to good old fashioned shouting matches followed by those involved getting back to work like nothing had happened.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 26, 2017 03:20 PM (hJrjt)

Not if we can help it!

Posted by: HR at January 26, 2017 03:21 PM (92kX2)

372 So, I was noticing the Magnificent Golden Scalp Weasel blowing in the wind on the way to Marine One, and of course Sheppy had to mention Trump's hair issue.

It actually was pretty funny. The Golden Scalp Weasel has a life of its own.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2017 03:21 PM (PY9jH)

373 I don't understand why we have bureaucracies like the EPA, Edumication Dept., etc., when there are 50 state level and thousands more county/local level departments that do essentially the same thing.

I do understand that how we got these vast bureaucracies however was because the local and state bureaucracies had been co-opted by the local power structure to do their bidding (no show jobs, nepotism, corrupting the intended mission etc.).

So either solution presents its own set of negative consequences.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at January 26, 2017 03:21 PM (u/p7K)

374 >>>>>I've absolutely zero sympathy for anyone that works for the EPA, having
dealt with them over the past decade in the field of waste (sewage)
management. Aside from a handful of people who practiced common sense,
the majority were true bureaucrats with absolutely zero common sense and
limited knowledge beyond their books and rule sets. That place could
use a thorough and comprehensive house cleaning.
.
.
.EPA's stupid run off water rules cost me an extra $6 Grand when I had some work done to alleviate some drainage issues we had on our house in Kentucky.

Who would have thought you can't adjust the rain water that falls on your yard to run off into the road.......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 26, 2017 03:21 PM (le7jz)

375 And that is why I argued that if any part of the government should monitor climate, the EPA is not it, because of the sort of mindsets the EPA attracts and represents.

Posted by: DaveM at January 26, 2017 03:21 PM (WFjXF)

376 Related...

Anti-Trump Twitter accounts spoofing govmint agency accounts are popping up, supposedly from people in those departments. Resist we much...by tweeting! That'll show them.

https://twitter.com/AltNatParkSer
https://twitter.com/RogueNASA
https://twitter.com/AltHHS

Note the image at the top of the HHS one. They think they are the rebels, they don't realize they actually helped build the Death Star.

Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 03:22 PM (hvf9s)

377 In regards to these bureaucrats and their grieving one would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

Unceasingly.

In the rain...

Posted by: OSCAR WILD MAN HEMMINGWAY at January 26, 2017 03:22 PM (xiiES)

378 Paglia has her moments, but when it comes to a glorious, fierce defense of Western Civilization by a socialist woman, there is no one that can compare to the late, great Oriana Fallaci.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 03:22 PM (JBggj)

379 I wonder if Soros pays people to go to homeless shelters so they look fuller.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (xeeHA)
............

I still don't get it.

Posted by: wth at January 26, 2017 03:22 PM (HgMAr)

380 369 The slanted approach to the world for a few posts was me.

Ha - I thought it was me, too (wearing a Trump sock).
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 26, 2017 03:20 PM (10LGw)

Heisenberg Barrel Uncertainty? Observation of the embarreling changes the results?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 26, 2017 03:22 PM (92kX2)

381 I thought Drew Carey was a conservative?

Yes, well, his kids may not be. In fact, given the schools and culture they grew up in, and the wealth and lack of hard work their father didn't enjoy, its almost certain that they are lefties.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:22 PM (39g3+)

382 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? Taking My Time on my Ride at January 26, 2017 03:19 PM (s/EUv)

LOL! I have spent seemingly half my life on I-40, so I deeply appreciate that!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 03:23 PM (kqtMD)

383
Who would have thought you can't adjust the rain water that falls on your yard to run off into the road.......


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 26, 2017 03:21 PM (le7jz)


Or build a pond on your property.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2017 03:23 PM (PY9jH)

384 Zerohedge says the EPA loons have created a rogue twitter so 'the core values of the EPA can be protected.'

===

"Rogue 5 standing by at Starbuck's"
"Roger, Rogue 5. Rogue 9, where are those Cheetos?"
"Sorry , Rogue Leader, was tweeting 'Trump is Hitler' on the Rogue Twitter, Cheetos on the way!"
"Roger, Rogue 9. and may the force be with you."

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 03:23 PM (toH8T)

385 Drew Carey is a libertarian,he was a Gary Johnson backer.

Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2017 03:23 PM (r/0kC)

386 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:13 PM (39g3+)

When you get some free time read about how Rockefeller got bum rushed. The Standard Oil breakup is not what liberal history writers have made it out to be.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 26, 2017 03:23 PM (OVJcF)

387 >>The new Disney Star Wars, where they fight Darth Emo Snookie.

They imagine themselves as lil' Jyn Ersos and Cassian Endors.

Dude, you work for the federal government and you're tweeting climate change stats that are taught in every college and repeated by Al Gore, Neil Degrasse Tyson, and the UN. You're not resisting anything.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2017 03:23 PM (NOIQH)

388 It used to be called "British phlegm." Also WASP stoicism.

I know, I know, Anglo-Saxon Protestants are so five minutes ago.

Posted by: Beverly at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (bKEfx)

389 Sounds like solid grounds for dismissal. If they can't do their jobs in a non crisis how will they do their jobs in a real crisis....oh like making certain rivers yellow.

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable & Profoundly Unserious at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (cOHS7)

390 346 If someone is right now worried about their job security, think about those of us in the real world.
Posted by: Maritime at January 26, 2017 03:03 PM (RYUuq)

What is this "job" of which you speak?
Posted by: Insomniac at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (0mRoj)


I'm actually waiting for the ax to fall. I was informed my job is going away.

You're welcome, people in Hungary who are now doing my job.

Today I saw the guy at the company next door doing their landscaping so I went and asked him if they were hiring. I told him I was one of the American casualties that got Trump elected. He said "talk to the receptionist".

So here we go.

Posted by: kallisto at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (nNdYv)

391 Apollonian/Dionysian. I think this is correct. I had a nightmare last night and all I can recall about it is that the villains were some kind of wild, unrestrained liberal thingy.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (ZKlDy)

392 LOL! I have spent seemingly half my life on I-40, so I deeply appreciate that!

Hah-It's because I've had Little Feat's "Willin'" stuck in my head today.

I've been from Tucson to Tucumcari
Tehachapi to Tonapah
Driven every kind of rig that's ever been made
Driven the back roads so I wouldn't get weighed

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? Taking My Time on my Ride at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (s/EUv)

393 >>"Roger, Rogue 5. Rogue 9, where are those Cheetos?"


"Keep this Channel Clear, Porkins!"

Posted by: Rogue 2 at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (OhOyF)

394 Not if we can help it!
Posted by: HR at January 26, 2017 03:21 PM (92kX2)

I toiled in an office setting at a University ( I know), and let me tell you there were vendettas there that went on for years.
The drama was a large part of what made me leave.

That and Women's and Gender Studies Departments.

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (BQ5O8)

395 349

323 oops
Posted by: brdavis9 at January 26, 2017 03:14 PM (xk+SM)

Welcome to the AOSHQ. This is Ben and Amy. Carlos is around here somewhere. He has your membership packet.

Posted by: Greeter Johnson at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (92kX2


...thanks. Actually, I've been around since ...oh gawd ...I dunno, 2001? Earlier?

...just haven't commented as a regular for years ...old name "davisbr"

Posted by: brdavis9 at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (xk+SM)

396 Posted by: Lizzy at January 26, 2017 03:19 PM (NOIQH)


One of the most annoying things about living in SoCal was going to the store and having to dodge all the dirty diapers that had been tossed into the parking lot.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (uiwCw)

397 The slanted approach to the world for a few posts was me.
-------------------------------------
I was looking for a Chinaman. Oh well.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 26, 2017 03:25 PM (SsblQ)

398 Harry Carey

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 03:25 PM (jsWA8)

399 Paglia has her moments, but when it comes to a glorious, fierce defense of Western Civilization by a socialist woman, there is no one that can compare to the late, great Oriana Fallaci.
Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 03:22 PM (JBggj



Oh man. When you read her you expect the pages to light on fire. What a loss.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 26, 2017 03:25 PM (mf5HN)

400 Was any actual "environmental damage" - besides that caused by the clean-up, the steam under pressure used to scrub beach rocks - ever documented in the Exxon Valdez case?


And no, sorry, dead birds and fish, on the scale in question, are hardly permanent damage.


Believe we'll find the same with the Gulf spill.


Of course this didn't stop many people from getting a massive pay-day out of Exxon Valdez, and probably from the Gulf. And it's not just racist authoritarians ("liberals") who are scientifically illiterate - lots of other folks reliably go apeshit with any oil spill, and are happy to support the shake-downs that follow.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 03:25 PM (QDnY+)

401 This is my other brother Johnson.

Posted by: Larry Johnson at January 26, 2017 03:25 PM (IqV8l)

402 Hey remember when Obama was gonna stick around, be a "thorn", and get in Trump's face?

Too much like real work, plus the added bonus that nobody cares. Obamawho?

Posted by: Mega at January 26, 2017 03:25 PM (VIiRP)

403 364 Mariah Carey
Drew Carey
Tucum Carey

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? Taking My Time on my Ride at January 26, 2017 03:19 PM (s/EUv)

Hey!

Posted by: Harry Caray at January 26, 2017 03:25 PM (7HtZB)

404 Hm, what has Gary Johnson been doing since the election? Apart from getting baked every day.

Posted by: V the K at January 26, 2017 03:26 PM (O7MnT)

405 here we go.
Posted by: kallisto

===

I am sorry to hear it. It's really harsh. But you are going to be better than okay. Just like Insomniac and all the other between jobs folks.

Hang in there. The wave of winning has just begun.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 03:26 PM (toH8T)

406 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? Taking My Time on my Ride at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (s/EUv)

You have excellent taste in music!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 03:27 PM (kqtMD)

407 >>> Zerohedge says the EPA loons have created a rogue twitter so 'the core values of the EPA can be protected.'

Bwahahaha of course they did! Love it. Lefties are nothing if not lemmings.

https://twitter.com/altUSEPA

Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 03:27 PM (hvf9s)

408 I think the AOS style books should be updated so that any mention of crying leftists be accompanied by
http://tinyurl.com/kb9fxxp

Posted by: Iblis at January 26, 2017 03:27 PM (9221z)

409 397 The slanted approach to the world for a few posts was me.
-------------------------------------
I was looking for a Chinaman. Oh well.
Posted by: RioBravo at January 26, 2017 03:25 PM (SsblQ)

...

Hey.
Hey!
HEY!

This! Is! Barrerl!

Posted by: Brave Library Chinaman at January 26, 2017 03:27 PM (zke7T)

410 No wonder Trump won when wailing and gnashing of teeth is what passes for professionalism in DC.

The only thing missing is rending of garments.

Posted by: Decaf at January 26, 2017 03:27 PM (WrEuY)

411 Conan, what is best in life?

Posted by: jasonjtyler@yahoo.com at January 26, 2017 03:28 PM (jgmPg)

412
One of the most annoying things about living in SoCal was going to the store and having to dodge all the dirty diapers that had been tossed into the parking lot.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (uiwCw)


Don't worry, that has spread nationwide thanks to our progressive immigration policies.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at January 26, 2017 03:28 PM (1JnAL)

413 Hm, what has Gary Johnson been doing since the election? Apart from getting baked every day.

Posted by: V the K at January 26, 2017 03:26 PM (O7MnT)
..............

Watching TV. Experimenting with new chocolate chip cookie recipes.

Posted by: Gary Johnson at January 26, 2017 03:28 PM (HgMAr)

414 When you get some free time read about how Rockefeller got bum rushed. The Standard Oil breakup is not what liberal history writers have made it out to be.

Oh he was jobbed by his enemies, using the government no question. But... the point remains: he'd still control the entire oil industry in the USA (and possibly elsewhere, he was richer than.... anyone, everywhere, most of them combined). And he was not willing to give people a break on anything.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:28 PM (39g3+)

415 The rogue twits are going to make morons sign up just to post about real sciencey stuff.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 26, 2017 03:28 PM (jsWA8)

416 You can't call them Apollonian and Dionysian. You have to call them Batman and the Joker.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 26, 2017 03:28 PM (VdICR)

417 232 >>I work at EPA and have not seen anyone crying. It was more of a stunned silence and funereal mood. Younger workers and more recent hires are probably the most worried for their jobs.

I feel for anyone who is worried about their job. It's very stressful.

But perhaps this can be a learning experience for federal workers who cared not a wit about private sector workers, the folks who have been breaking our balls to pay for all these seemingly untouchable federal jobs forever. Maybe if the feds didn't treat us like an ATM they can shit on whenever they want, or whenever they weren't shitting in the hallways, there would be a lot more compassion shown to them.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 03:01 PM (/tuJf)

This one reason why the military has such adifferent culture from the rest of the government, even law enforcement.

Your career depends on your striving for promotion, because its up or out. And even then over your career you may be canned because of a RIF, or a reorganization, or a change in technology, no matter how great a job you do.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 26, 2017 03:29 PM (xiiES)

418 "This was a glimpse of the future under Hillary, the way they were gonna get around the 2nd amendment."

Yep. 2nd Amendment gives you the right to bear arms. Don't say shit about bullets.

What's that you say about penumbras. Sheeeeetttt, that only works one way.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 26, 2017 03:29 PM (SIY7D)

419 It now appears that there is an altABC twitter account for each of the alphabet agencies.

Lunatics. They can't fire enough of them.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:29 PM (xeeHA)

420 408 I think the AOS style books should be updated so that any mention of crying leftists be accompanied by
http://tinyurl.com/kb9fxxp
Posted by: Iblis at January 26, 2017 03:27 PM (9221z)

"Dude, let's never piss Cartman off again!"

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:29 PM (8hICw)

421 Anybody got that Batman costume still? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Falaise HotPocket at January 26, 2017 03:29 PM (dLkkp)

422 #399

Oh man. When you read her you expect the pages to light on fire. What a loss.
==============

Yes.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 03:30 PM (JBggj)

423 Tucum Carey


I've been from Tucson to Tucumcari
Tehachapi to Tonapah
Driven every kind of rig that's ever been made
Now I've driven the back roads
So I wouldn't get weighed
And if you give me weed, whites, and wine
Then you show me a sign
I'll be willin' to be movin'

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at January 26, 2017 03:30 PM (mgbwf)

424 Hang in there. The wave of winning has just begun.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 03:26 PM (toH8T)


Thanks Mort! I'm actually not real torn up about this. I didn't see myself at this company forever, no room for promotion. My only concern is about the health benefits. I have no issue with temping until something permanent shows up, however temps don't get health bennies until they clock in a lot of hours.

Another reason why that shittin' mandate eats a big BOD.

Posted by: kallisto at January 26, 2017 03:30 PM (nNdYv)

425 I think the personality theory explains a lot as well.

One of the categories they have is thinking/ feeling.

Most women are in the feeling category.

Most men are in the thinking category.

There are exceptions of course. Like gay men. And conservative women.

There are also degrees within each category.

So naturally, 50% of the population are going to react emotionally. We now have a culture that does not discourage that, so there are tantrums that society has now shows on a daily basis on the news and YouTube.

Then add in decades of "the self esteem movement" which has resulted into "special snowflakes" in the workforce.

So yeah, there's going to be problems and lots of histrionic emoting from narcissists.

That's what our society has given us: Histrionic Narcissists.

/yeah, those are personality disorders that cannot be cured. long on pharmaceutical stocks...



Posted by: shibumi, frequent Warrior Princess and kitty cat fan at January 26, 2017 03:30 PM (J5mC3)

426 Yep, Sebastian (and note, Christopher), lots of the myths about anti-trust heroics are just that. Especially when actual economic analysis reveals that in several cases the evil monopolies had the effect of advancing development faster than would otherwise have been the case.


The Sherman anti-trust act was originally a few paragraphs. The only standard, the only thing it was designed to prevent, was harm to the CONSUMER - not to other businesses. Funny, those guys back then, the ones famous for drawing the line against evil monopolies, seemed to actually understand the point - protecting the consumer, nobody else.


But now all that's lost in the gauzy mythology supporting the cultural bigotry about large companies.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 03:30 PM (QDnY+)

427 >>> Conan, what is best in life?
Posted by: jasonjtyler@yahoo.com at January 26, 2017 03:28 PM (jgmPg)

Crush the snowflakes, see them melt in a puddle before you, and hear the lamentations of the trigglypuffs!

Posted by: MAGA Conan at January 26, 2017 03:30 PM (hvf9s)

428 419 It now appears that there is an altABC twitter account for each of the alphabet agencies


----

We need to start our own fake alt govt account on twitter

Posted by: @votermom's phone at January 26, 2017 03:31 PM (xb3Ae)

429 Shit. Someone beat me to the Little Feat song.

Sorry.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at January 26, 2017 03:31 PM (mgbwf)

430 ..you can keep the whites and the wine.

I'll take the weed and the Feat, though!

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 03:31 PM (OhOyF)

431 I thought Drew Carey was a conservative?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 26, 2017 03:16 PM (ZM2xo)

++++

Drew is a conservative in a NeverTrumper sort of way.

https://twitter.com/DrewFromTV

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 26, 2017 03:32 PM (R+30W)

432 Oh for crying out loud.

I actually went to Ace's link to read the article, and there's a sidebar piece on TFG being offered $20 mil as an advance on his memoirs.

Jeebus.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2017 03:32 PM (PY9jH)

433 It now appears that there is an altABC twitter account for each of the alphabet agencies.

===

I believe that it is an outstanding idea for these noble public servants to post their every wacky , rogue thought onto a server where their cries for justice can be recorded for posterity.

And termination for cause. But mostly posterity.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 03:32 PM (toH8T)

434 Funny, those guys back then, the ones famous for drawing the line against evil monopolies, seemed to actually understand the point - protecting the consumer, nobody else.


And none of them seem to care these days about entertainment monopolies. Like 3 megacorps control all the entertainment and internet. They just kept buying and buying and nobody ever tells them "no."

You will wear the mouse ears and like it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:32 PM (39g3+)

435 I actually went to Ace's link to read the article, and there's a sidebar piece on TFG being offered $20 mil as an advance on his memoirs.

Jeebus.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2017 03:32 PM (PY9jH)
--------

It's basically a book about golf.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:32 PM (xeeHA)

436 "Apollonian" vs. "Dionysian." Excellent point, Ace.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 26, 2017 03:33 PM (+r2J4)

437 I actually went to Ace's link to read the article, and there's a sidebar piece on TFG being offered $20 mil as an advance on his memoirs.
----------------------
Volume 3!

Posted by: RioBravo at January 26, 2017 03:33 PM (SsblQ)

438 I'm actually waiting for the ax to fall. I was informed my job is going away.

You're welcome, people in Hungary who are now doing my job.

Today I saw the guy at the company next door doing their landscaping so I went and asked him if they were hiring. I told him I was one of the American casualties that got Trump elected. He said "talk to the receptionist".

So here we go.
Posted by: kallisto at January 26, 2017 03:24 PM (nNdYv)

Gah. Sorry to hear it.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 26, 2017 03:33 PM (0mRoj)

439 It's basically a book about golf.

Posted by: Moron Pundit
==

*snort*

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 03:33 PM (toH8T)

440 432
Oh for crying out loud.

I actually went to Ace's link to read the
article, and there's a sidebar piece on TFG being offered $20 mil as an
advance on his memoirs.

Jeebus.


Posted by: Jane D'oh


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

He wrote 2 autobiographies BEFORE he was even President.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at January 26, 2017 03:33 PM (u/p7K)

441 My sides are almost spitting open I'm laughing so hard

Posted by: Skip at January 26, 2017 03:34 PM (0AwCy)

442 On the lead ammo issue - well, let's hope - in his remarks today to the GOP "retreat", Trump mentioned protecting sportsmen, fishermen, users of the outdoors, in his laundry list of issues. I'm thinking/hoping he's not gonna let this latest idiocy on lead ammo stand.


Trump's style in his remarks - and in the excerpts I've heard of his interview with Hannity - is so funny and refreshing. It's obvious why he connects with voters whose minds are open, and/or not filled with NPR lunacy. Direct, common-sensical, very little of the mindless pro politician's mediocre circumlocution.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 03:34 PM (QDnY+)

443
I still don't get it.
Posted by: wth at January 26, 2017 03:22 PM (HgMAr)


It would make sense if it was all caps

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 26, 2017 03:34 PM (lKyWE)

444 There's a sidebar piece on TFG being offered $20 mil as an advance on his memoirs, written by Bill Ayers.

FIFY

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 26, 2017 03:34 PM (fDdVG)

445

Such nice words coming out first thing from Theresa May, Brit PM

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:34 PM (nQgx9)

446 Well Pepperidge Motherfucking Farm Remembers, Fucknozzles

LOL. Consider that stolen.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 26, 2017 03:34 PM (nd1zx)

447 hey EPA WORKERS TAKE YOUR LEADERS ADVICE: "Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or a writer without worrying about keeping their day job .

That's what was said to the American people as the govt grew in mass.

This is how YOUR questionable leadership thinks of your JOB.

Posted by: willow at January 26, 2017 03:35 PM (R7cwD)

448 Oriana Fallaci's "The Force of Reason" is well worth a read.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 03:35 PM (JBggj)

449 OT: The local moms on NextDoor are one-upping each other for places to take a child to get her ears pierced.

My contribution:

I guess a Dad with a block of wood, nail, hammer, bbq lighter, cotton swab, alcohol, and a bandaid is out of the question? ;-)



'Rub some dirt on it' or 'Walk it off' are also probably out then.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2017 03:35 PM (JO9+V)

450 >>It's basically a book about golf.


SCOAMF ON GOLF

It's going to be a series, like DORF.

The first one is on Golf, the second Foreign Policy.

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 03:35 PM (OhOyF)

451 He wrote 2 autobiographies BEFORE he was even President.
Posted by: Skunky Choom at January 26, 2017 03:33 PM (u/p7K)

And won a Nobel Peace Prize (well right at the start of being President, anyway)! And Time Person of the Year*!

* - Note, I'm a former Time POY myself.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:35 PM (xeeHA)

452 btw that was Demonrat Pelosi as citizens lost their JOBS

Posted by: willow at January 26, 2017 03:36 PM (R7cwD)

453 BREAKING: Pence will be first official to attend in person Friday's March for Life.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 26, 2017 03:36 PM (2x9LM)

454 I actually went to Ace's link to read the article, and there's a sidebar piece on TFG being offered $20 mil as an advance on his memoirs.
..............

Memoirs Of A Clown. Probably won't even sell as good as MeAgains blockbuster.

Posted by: wth at January 26, 2017 03:36 PM (HgMAr)

455 That's very sad about Drew Carey. From inside info I know he's a very decent, regular guy, and very engaged with supporting the military. Hard to figure him being a NeverTrumper. Also a midwesterner. Oh well.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 03:36 PM (QDnY+)

456 >>Your career depends on your striving for promotion, because its up or out. And even then over your career you may be canned because of a RIF, or a reorganization, or a change in technology, no matter how great a job you do.

I hear ya. My dad was military before going into business. My uncle was lifer in the Air Force. I watched it happen.

I'm just having a really hard time welling up a lot of sympathy for government workers who have been weaponized against us over the last few decades. Most of them don't have the skills or work ethic to last a minute in the private sector yet they have no problem looking down their noses at us.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 03:36 PM (/tuJf)

457 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:28 PM (39g3+)

At the time of the break up he controlled only 60 % of the refineries. His trust also lowered the prices of oil through a number of factors. Even one of the trust busters admitted that the trust kept prices low but commented something to the effect ' even if the price of oil went to one cent a barrel , Standard still needed to be busted because it was just wrong'

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 26, 2017 03:36 PM (OVJcF)

458 "When you get some free time read about how Rockefeller got bum rushed. The Standard Oil breakup is not what liberal history writers have made it out to be."

The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company recently finally died.

As it developed it essentially invented the idea of the supermarket and in its heyday peak during the 1930s was the equivalent of Wal*Mart before there was a Wal*Mart.

Laws were enacted at the local and federal level to stop its cheap low prices for the everyday consumer.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 26, 2017 03:36 PM (SIY7D)

459 The first one is on Golf, the second Foreign Policy.
Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 03:35 PM (OhOyF)
------------

So, like, playing golf in other countries?

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:37 PM (xeeHA)

460 >>> I believe that it is an outstanding idea for these noble public servants to post their every wacky , rogue thought onto a server where their cries for justice can be recorded for posterity.

And termination for cause. But mostly posterity.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 26, 2017 03:32 PM (toH8T)



A Forbes article noted all of these sites are in violation of logo policies for government agencies, which tend to be extremely strict. I would laugh so hard if they have to modify their account logos because of that!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hm9gatg

Posted by: MAGA Conan at January 26, 2017 03:37 PM (hvf9s)

461

"Special Relationship between US/UK"

Check.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:37 PM (nQgx9)

462 oh and if you run out of insurance because the dems regulated our jobs out of existence You can keep your FREE healthcare.

(snorts)

Posted by: willow at January 26, 2017 03:37 PM (R7cwD)

463 He wrote 2 autobiographies BEFORE he was even President.

for certain values of "write." Its even worse though, particularly if you're an author.

He was approached and given a 40,000 advance for a book he had not even written and had never written any book in his life and then when he told the publisher he couldn't write that book but wanted to do an autobiography at the age of 30 something, they said "OK keep the advance and do that instead."

This is mob-style machine work. Its just giving someone they want to advance money and a leg up. As an actual author that's infuriating.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:37 PM (39g3+)

464 >>So, like, playing golf in other countries?


Fucking Spoiler Alert!

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 03:38 PM (OhOyF)

465 It now appears that there is an altABC twitter account for each of the alphabet agencies. Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:29 PM (xeeHA)

Play pretend government men who are waiting for the dems to get back in the White House. They might accidentally help the conservative candidate.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 26, 2017 03:38 PM (VdICR)

466 Well, Drew Carey has still gotta work.

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 03:38 PM (BQ5O8)

467 I actually went to Ace's link to read the article, and there's a sidebar piece on TFG being offered $20 mil as an advance on his memoirs.
----------------------
Volume 3!
Posted by: RioBravo at January 26, 2017 03:33 PM (SsblQ)

Reggie and Michelle will serve as inspiration for the composite FLOTUS?

Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 03:39 PM (hvf9s)

468 Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2017 03:35 PM (JO9+V)

Potato, ice and a needle is all you really need.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 03:39 PM (kqtMD)

469


Of course this didn't stop many people from getting a massive
pay-day out of Exxon Valdez, and probably from the Gulf. And it's not
just racist authoritarians ("liberals") who are scientifically
illiterate - lots of other folks reliably go apeshit with any oil spill,
and are happy to support the shake-downs that follow.



Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 03:25 PM (QDnY+)


That's pretty much the entire reason we have the recycling "industry" today. A garbage barge couldn't find a parking place, the photos made the news, and now we burn through billions of dollars propping up businesses that transport and recycle things that, unlike metals, are worthless after recycling.

Ka-ching!

Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 26, 2017 03:39 PM (Halhc)

470 rhomboid , it is sad He is a decent guy, I'm sure he' is just responding to the mfm that he still believes.

hopefully more and more people will start to question who's getting paid when where and how for what.

Posted by: willow at January 26, 2017 03:39 PM (R7cwD)

471

PM May: As dawn breaks on a new era of renewal...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (nQgx9)

472 >>>>Well Pepperidge Motherfucking Farm Remembers, Fucknozzles

LOL. Consider that stolen.
.
.
.
.That is most certainly going in the book.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (le7jz)

473
146 Fritz: "And just think of all of the cheap ammo he could be selling to private citizens as a gesture of goodwill."


Yeah, Fritz, but that will mostly be just mountains of .40 ammo - who wants that??


(commence the caliber wars!)

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 02:47 PM (QDnY+)

I'll open bidding for the lot. 10 quatloos. Throw in all the firearms and l'll double to twenty.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (FtrY1)

474 "We have two cultures in this country:..."

What follows after that is why I come here. Snark is nice, red meat tastes good and the big guns are cool, but being exposed to a new idea, or an existing idea worded in a new way, is why I invest my time. Carry on, Ace.

Posted by: CJ at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (9KqcB)

475 Oh my, the value of the Peso dropped today after Mexican pres announced he would not meet with Trump to discuss wall building and other things.

What is the Spanish word for schadenfreude?

Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (hvf9s)

476 I actually pierced my best friend's earlobes when we were teens (at her insistence).

Bar of soap, rubbing alcohol, needle. Easy peasy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (PY9jH)

477 I just don't grok piercings. "Today, I'm going to tear a hole in my body to dangle jewelry from!" Where the hell did that come from originally??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (39g3+)

478 Local talk show host just skewering the MSM & their panic-mongering reporting of "The Doomsday Clock"

Posted by: Harry Caray at January 26, 2017 03:41 PM (7HtZB)

479 What is the Spanish word for schadenfreude?
Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (hvf9s)

I don't think there is. It's a German word for a reason.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:41 PM (8hICw)

480 Hey remember when Obama was gonna stick around, be a "thorn", and get in Trump's face?

Hm, what has Gary Johnson been doing since the election? Apart from getting baked every day.


Hard to believe it hasn't been a week since the inauguration, what with all the stuff that's been done by the new crew.

Remember, the new gang that was in total disarray as far as staffing goes? According to the MSM?

It's like the press was so tired of their jobs they just decided to commit mass seppuku and get it all over with at once.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 26, 2017 03:41 PM (nd1zx)

481 Oh, and ice, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2017 03:41 PM (PY9jH)

482 >>What is the Spanish word for schadenfreude?

El Schadenfreude.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 03:42 PM (/tuJf)

483 Potato, ice and a needle is all you really need.





Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 03:39 PM (kqtMD)


Thanks, I'll add that. lol

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2017 03:42 PM (JO9+V)

484 I just don't grok piercings. "Today, I'm going to tear a hole in my body to dangle jewelry from!" Where the hell did that come from originally??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (39g3+)



Ewww, people do that?

Posted by: Woman with a plate in her lipin NatGeo at January 26, 2017 03:42 PM (uiwCw)

485 I'm just surprised they think that many Obama supporters can read.

Posted by: wth at January 26, 2017 03:42 PM (HgMAr)

486 254 So, you have a bunch of twenty-somethings whose only jobs were in the EPA during Obama. And now they have to deal with the same performance-based job security criteria the rest of us live under. Must be a shock to suddenly realize you can be fired for having a useless occupation.
Posted by: red speck at January 26, 2017 03:04 PM (RcEOo)
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Here's what's gonna happen - because it happens all the time, DoD does it on a regular basis.
They'll hire them all back as contractors. Contractors don't count as actual Federal employees, plus you can fire them, lay them off, move them around, and there's not one thing they can do about it because it's part of their contract.
Other than quit, of course, and they won't do that because then they'd have to actually WORK somewhere.

Posted by: antisocialist at January 26, 2017 03:42 PM (W2wn0)

487 People realize that "The Doomsday Clock" is an arbitrary thing run by extreme partisans, right?

Right?

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:42 PM (xeeHA)

488 TFG will write about how the white man's racism kept him from fulfilling his wildest dreams.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2017 03:43 PM (PY9jH)

489 I just don't grok piercings. "Today, I'm going to tear a hole in my body to dangle jewelry from!" Where the hell did that come from originally??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (39g3+)


Ewww, people do that?


Posted by: Woman with a plate in her lip in NatGeo at January 26, 2017 03:42 PM (uiwCw)




You tell him, sister!

Posted by: Woman with 47 rings stretching her neck in NatGeo at January 26, 2017 03:43 PM (uiwCw)

490 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (39g3+)

I don't get it, either. My ears are not pierced, nor is anything else.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 03:43 PM (kqtMD)

491 BTW, Hannity just came out and said the WaPo story about the state department honchos resigning was Fake News.

In fact, they were fired.

/drain.the.swamp.

Posted by: shibumi, frequent Warrior Princess and kitty cat fan at January 26, 2017 03:43 PM (J5mC3)

492 "Gosnell" author on Steyn. She's going to be at a local B&N tonight. I would have liked a little heads up.
Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 02:43

My wife is currently reading that book. She is just horrified. It has already turned her very anti-abortion.

Posted by: Farmer at January 26, 2017 03:44 PM (4bBUU)

493 Who decided to give those fuckers a doomsday clock, anyway? Should have probably kept that under military control.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 26, 2017 03:44 PM (10LGw)

494 453 BREAKING: Pence will be first official to attend in person Friday's March for Life.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 26, 2017 03:36 PM (2x9LM)


Trump needs to go too! Imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth then!

Posted by: Iblis at January 26, 2017 03:44 PM (9221z)

495 " I'm wondering what's going to happen when most of this generation of cry babies (I'm thinking mostly of this generation of college students) flood the job market.

Things are going to get very ugly very fast."

Oh, certainly. But as an IT contractor, works for me- I don't have sadz and timeouts on the job, nor do I need safe spaces.

These snowflakes are my job security/prosperity. Keep it goin', SJW diploma mills!

Posted by: Twin Cities Daydrunk - slip slidin' away at January 26, 2017 03:44 PM (kVX3W)

496
What is the Spanish word for schadenfreude?
Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (hvf9s)


Puto cabron

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 26, 2017 03:44 PM (lKyWE)

497 My esposa, though a Trump voter and Obama loather, is a rabid recycler. She washes the garbage, er recyclables, before sorting.
And don't even get re started on plastic grocery sacks, jeez.

I talked to her about cost effectiveness, but no dice.

Or recycling bin is half the size of the garbage, but it should be reversed.
Sometimes, When she's out of town, I throw plastic jugs and glass bottles in the trash.

Yeah, I'm a rebel.

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 03:45 PM (BQ5O8)

498 317 243 144 130 Took almost a week, but you knew it was coming...

Shelters Under Pressure As Homeless Numbers Soar

Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 02:44 PM (qJhUV)

I totally called this, as did others. It's just what they do.
Posted by: Insomniac



And to the complete surprise to absolutely nobody, the Homeless arrive in the headlines!! Next, the True Unemployment Numbers!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, #NotMySuperBowl at January 26, 2017 03:45 PM (Gj3Mx)

499 Crybaby hall-shitters, the whole lot of 'em.

SUCK IT, BITCHEZ!!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 26, 2017 03:45 PM (QK70D)

500 487 People realize that "The Doomsday Clock" is an arbitrary thing run by extreme partisans, right?

Right?
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:42 PM (xeeHA)

Yeah, I figured that out in grade school when my brother explained to me what Iron Maiden's "Two Minutes to Midnight" was about. That was the conclusion i reached. He actually thought it was something to be afraid of. He's 10 years older than me, BTW.

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:45 PM (7HtZB)

501
talking about Trump's win and Congress

magna carta
the bill of rights
haibius corpus
trial by jury
and the English common law
find their most famous expression in the American Declaration of Independence

value of liberty
dignity of work
family
patriotism
economic prudence
power in the hands of the people

Trump's win and Congress:

"achieved in defiance..."

"swept all before you"

"great victory"

jeebus

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:45 PM (nQgx9)

502
BTW, Hannity just came out and said the WaPo story about the state department honchos resigning was Fake News.

In fact, they were fired.

/drain.the.swamp.


Posted by: shibumi, frequent Warrior Princess and kitty cat fan at January 26, 2017 03:43 PM (J5mC3)



Oooh, that's even better! "Get your shit and get out!"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2017 03:45 PM (PY9jH)

503 Such nice words coming out first thing from Theresa May, Brit PM
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:34 PM (nQgx9)

-----

Ronald and Maggie

Donald and Theresea


Echoes of history??

Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (8XRCm)

504 I just don't grok piercings.
..............

But do you reach them?

Posted by: Dr. Sevrin at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (HgMAr)

505 Whining does not invoke sympathy amongst those whose sympathy you don't already have, those it may cause lose of sympathy within the aformentioned.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (OzJeO)

506 I am fully hard after reading that.

Posted by: Fake at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (7Ov+c)

507 I just don't grok piercings. "Today, I'm going to
tear a hole in my body to dangle jewelry from!" Where the hell did that
come from originally??



Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (39g3+)





Ewww, people do that?





Posted by: Woman with a plate in her lip in NatGeo at January 26, 2017 03:42 PM (uiwCw)







You tell him, sister!



Posted by: Woman with 47 rings stretching her neck in NatGeo at January 26, 2017 03:43 PM (uiwCw


Yes we do and we love it! It is an expression of our authentic selves and individuality!

Posted by: Snowflake whose mish looks like it had a headon with the fishing lure bin at Cabelas at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (JO9+V)

508 And to the complete surprise to absolutely nobody, the Homeless arrive in the headlines!! Next, the True Unemployment Numbers!!

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*ahem*

Posted by: Military Casualty Grim Milestones at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (QK70D)

509 Here, let's do some math:

EPA workforce- about 15K.

Average hourly salary is... what, $25-40? Let's be conservative and say $30.

Trump has been in office for a little over five working days now. Let's just call it 40 hours.

40X30X15,000= That's $18 million dollars it's costing taxpayers, so these muffins can have their crying fits.

What, you say? It's not all of them? Ok, 2/3 of the workforce would still be $12 million for sobbing. In one week.

And of course, that's just the EPA. Let's not yet talk about the melting l snowflakes who work at DoD. Because, yes. They do.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (TOk1P)

510 Trump proposing a $60 billion a year tax on Mexican imports into this country to not only pay for the wall, but pay for upkeep and operation, as well.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (Gh3fw)

511 Ronald and Maggie

Donald and Theresea


Echoes of history??
Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (8XRCm)



said only the US and UK increase defense, military

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (nQgx9)

512 Four State Department executives found dead in Fort Marcy Park

Posted by: Fake News LLC at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (TppKb)

513 Anyone talking about the import tax on Mexican goods? 20% to pay for the wall..

Posted by: IC at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (a0IVu)

514 Took almost a week, but you knew it was coming...
Shelters Under Pressure As Homeless Numbers Soar
Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 02:44

See, another great Trump accomplishment...he's made the media discover the homeless after they forgot about them for 8 yrs.

Posted by: Farmer at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (4bBUU)

515 503 Such nice words coming out first thing from Theresa May, Brit PM
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:34 PM (nQgx9)

-----

Ronald and Maggie

Donald and Theresea


Echoes of history??
Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (8XRCm)

Now if we can just work in another JPII....

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (7HtZB)

516 449 OT: The local moms on NextDoor are one-upping each other for places to take a child to get her ears pierced.

My contribution:

I guess a Dad with a block of wood, nail, hammer, bbq lighter, cotton swab, alcohol, and a bandaid is out of the question? ;-)



'Rub some dirt on it' or 'Walk it off' are also probably out then.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2017 03:35 PM (JO9+V)

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When Oldest Daughter was about 4 years old, she wanted her ears pierced. We went to the mall, started to walk into Claire's Boutique to get it done, and her daddy (my ex), casually mentioned that "you do know they do it with a roofing nail, right?" She stopped dead in her tracks, wouldn't budge, we had to carry her back out of the store and she didn't get her ears done until she was almost 13.
Of course, her step-daddy took her to get her belly button pierced as a graduation present, so I guess she got over the whole phobia thing.

Posted by: antisocialist at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (W2wn0)

517 I read all these employment horror stories and wonder, why not work for yourself?

It's all I've ever done. Mostly retired now.

Posted by: Mathers at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (3myMJ)

518 If you're a man, over 30, not a pirate, that wears an ear stud, you're a dork and everyone knows it except you.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (u/p7K)

519 495:These snowflakes are my job security/prosperity. Keep it goin', SJW diploma mills!
Posted by: Twin Cities Daydrunk - slip slidin' away



Dammit! I thought I was the only one using this "strategy".

Posted by: Puddleglum, #NotMySuperBowl at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (Gj3Mx)

520 Bannon: "The media has zero integrity, zero intelligence and no hard work."


Ha!


Also, Trump looking at 20% tariff on Mexican imports to fund the "wall".


Hilarious!


Let's see how long before Presidente Nieto cries "tio!".


This really is even better than I expected, though I was pretty serene that things would be pretty good.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (QDnY+)

521 When she's out of town, I throw plastic jugs and glass bottles in the trash.


Our garbage and recycling get picked up by mechanized trucks, so nobody sees what's actually in them.

If one if full and I need to get rid of the other, it goes in the other bin.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at January 26, 2017 03:48 PM (mgbwf)

522 You tell him, sister!



Posted by: Woman with 47 rings stretching her neck in NatGeo at January 26, 2017 03:43 PM (uiwCw)


Pikers.

Posted by: Crow Indian Chief at January 26, 2017 03:48 PM (Halhc)

523 BREAKING: Pence will be first official to attend in person Friday's March for Life.
............

I'm in. Should I dress up like a giant sperm?

Posted by: wth at January 26, 2017 03:48 PM (HgMAr)

524 >>> 487 People realize that "The Doomsday Clock" is an arbitrary thing run by extreme partisans, right?
Right? Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:42 PM (xeeHA)
Yeah, I figured that out in grade school when my brother explained to me what Iron Maiden's "Two Minutes to Midnight" was about. That was the conclusion i reached. He actually thought it was something to be afraid of. He's 10 years older than me, BTW. Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:45 PM (7HtZB)

Does anyone remember the children's book "The House with the Clock in its Walls?" All the Doomsday talk makes me want to reread it.

Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 03:49 PM (hvf9s)

525 Now if we can just work in another JPII....
Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM (7HtZB)

---

Word.

Im not even Catholic and that man was my Pope.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 03:49 PM (8XRCm)

526 "you still get credit for signalling you're part of the garment-shredding tribe."

I'm more of the garment-shedding tribe-type girl.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at January 26, 2017 03:49 PM (DMUuz)

527 Theresa and Donald sitting in a tree


Making OEs, fast as you please

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2017 03:49 PM (JO9+V)

528 I'm in. Should I dress up like a giant sperm?
Posted by: wth at January 26, 2017 03:48 PM (HgMAr)


Go for it. Just don't step on your flagellum.

Posted by: tubal at January 26, 2017 03:50 PM (BQ5O8)

529 Four State Department executives found dead in Fort Marcy Park
Posted by: Fake News LLC at January 26, 2017 03:47 PM

Cried themselves to death no doubt

Posted by: Skip at January 26, 2017 03:50 PM (0AwCy)

530 BTW, Hannity just came out and said the WaPo story about the state department honchos resigning was Fake News.

In fact, they were fired.


So, who wants to bet that one of those jagoffs called up their FAVORITE Washington Post reporter with the 'We quit!' baloney, and they got it on the air without bothering to check it because "JOHNNY SCOOP ACE REPORTER!"/echoplex.

Fake news, ba-bay! You're soaking in it!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 26, 2017 03:50 PM (nd1zx)

531 I'm kind of a luddite or something (there's got to be a better term) because I don't get stabbing yourself thousands of times with ink to make a permanent stain on your body, either. I think people are pretty cool without accessories.

Trump proposing a $60 billion a year tax on Mexican imports into this country to not only pay for the wall, but pay for upkeep and operation, as well.

That probably wouldn't be my approach. I like the tax on sending money to Mexico better for a big reason:

Mexico continues to be a corrupt 3rd world craphole because it has a release valve for anger and discontent: send them to the USA illegally. Illegals mailing money back home to family makes the discontent lower there, and pumps money into the Mexican economy for bribes, etc.

If we don't shut that safety valve off, Mexico will never, ever have to deal with the government and crime cartel corruption.

This is the argument that Razorfist makes in that great video someone linked a couple days ago: the wall, and immigration control, is good for Mexicans.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:50 PM (39g3+)

532 Markets closing strong.

Posted by: IC at January 26, 2017 03:50 PM (a0IVu)

533 Theresa and Donald sitting in a tree


Making OEs, fast as you please
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 26, 2017 03:49 PM (JO9+V)


the people of the other EU states are probably drooling. Not the "leaders", but the people. She also talked about borders and reigning in immigration.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:50 PM (nQgx9)

534 I just don't grok piercings. "Today, I'm going to tear a hole in my body to dangle jewelry from!" Where the hell did that come from originally??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:40 PM (39g3+)


Me, I'm not on board with the word "grok." I had to look it up just now, I see it has a nerd origin.

To me it sounds so... 2002 internet.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2017 03:50 PM (TOk1P)

535 510 Trump proposing a $60 billion a year tax on Mexican imports into this country to not only pay for the wall, but pay for upkeep and operation, as well.

---------

Now is the time to stockpile stuffed frogs and plaster of Paris burros

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 26, 2017 03:50 PM (QK70D)

536 Does anyone remember the children's book "The House with the Clock in its Walls?" All the Doomsday talk makes me want to reread it.

Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 03:49 PM (hvf9s)

Yes! John Bellairs was great. I got a lot of his books - plus, they all have Edward Gorey illustrations!

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:51 PM (7HtZB)

537 Hannity just came out and said the WaPo story about the state department honchos resigning was Fake News.

In fact, they were fired.


Meh, its basically the same thing. He can't fire them, he can only ask that they resign (forcefully) and they did. They're both right.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:51 PM (39g3+)

538 Posted by: Snowflake whose mish looks like it had a headon with the fishing lure bin at Cabelas at January 26, 2017 03:46 PM (JO9+V)


Back when I was a cook at a restaurant the chef had hired a new busboy. Said busboy had about twenty facial piercings.


The owner walks into the kitchen and the chef introduces the new busboy to him. The owner stares for a few seconds and then asks new busboy if he fell face first into a tackle box. New busboy was kept as an employee, but not bussing tables. He wasn't allowed out on the dining room floor if any customers were present, so he became a dishwasher/kitchen bitch.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 26, 2017 03:52 PM (uiwCw)

539 No idea where the thread has headed ... but I gotta' disagree with the Ewok here ...

... I can only assume that "quiet cool" is what he attributes to Conservatives. And, of course, the emotional shrieking is the Progressives.

But what we've had ... for as long as I can remember ... is Shrieking Banshies at the perimeter, with this monotone drone of "Let's not be hasty" from those that are supposedly the adults in charge.

That's not "quiet cool". That's fucking denial.

We're way past "quiet cool". That luxury is long, long gone.

Hence. Trump.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 26, 2017 03:52 PM (fiGNd)

540 Half the shit at the store is hecho en mexico, as is much of the produce dept.

I like the idea of a remittance tax for starters, then see about taxing.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 03:52 PM (kqtMD)

541 Hmmm, a 20% tax on Mexican imports.

I don't generally support these types of things but I'm wondering if that might get them to the negotiating table.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:52 PM (xeeHA)

542 BREAKING: Pence will be first official to attend in person Friday's March for Life.
............

I'm in. Should I dress up like a giant sperm?

Posted by: wth at January 26, 2017 03:48 PM (HgMAr)



Maybe the Eraserhead baby. That would be quite the look.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2017 03:52 PM (TOk1P)

543 536 Does anyone remember the children's book "The House with the Clock in its Walls?" All the Doomsday talk makes me want to reread it.

Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 03:49 PM (hvf9s)

Yes! John Bellairs was great. I got a lot of his books - plus, they all have Edward Gorey illustrations!
Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:51 PM (7HtZB)
===

I read all his books as a teen. Even as I approach the big three oh, I still get tempted at times to to read them all again.

Posted by: Independent George at January 26, 2017 03:53 PM (BDZWU)

544 Now is the time to stockpile stuffed frogs and plaster of Paris burros

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 26, 2017 03:50 PM (QK70D)
..........

and Chiclets.

Posted by: wth at January 26, 2017 03:53 PM (HgMAr)

545 About the State Dept. non-story: it has been decades that that level of officials routinely resign with a change of administrations. Dep secretary, asst. secretaries. Some are normally filled by career types. Sometimes people are retained through different administrations. All very normal.


This is the case with all federal agencies. Military commands do not automatically change, but on the civilian side it's utterly, boringly, routine.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 03:53 PM (QDnY+)

546 * - Note, I'm a former Time POY myself.

Very nice.

Posted by: Mega at January 26, 2017 03:53 PM (VIiRP)

547 Trump proposing a $60 billion a year tax on Mexican imports into this country to not only pay for the wall, but pay for upkeep and operation, as well.
----------------
The price of avocados will skyrocket. This will just destroy American consumers.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 26, 2017 03:53 PM (SsblQ)

548 Hmmm, a 20% tax on Mexican imports.

I don't generally support these types of things but I'm wondering if that might get them to the negotiating table.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:52 PM (xeeHA)

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15% tax on all outbound wire transfers and money orders to Mexico.

Thats my suggestion anyway.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 03:54 PM (8XRCm)

549 "He was approached and given a 40,000 advance for a book he had not even written and had never written any book in his life and then when he told the publisher he couldn't write that book but wanted to do an autobiography at the age of 30 something, they said 'OK keep the advance and do that instead.'"

Still more ragestroke-inducing is how Prince Chooming then, as President, had the State Department buy up enormous numbers of "his" ghosted books, for free distribution abroad under U.S. government auspices.

You have to assume that most of those books sent at our expense to Third World countries ended up as fire kindling, toilet paper, or hut wall insulation. But Obama still profited personally from every copy thus dispatched.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 26, 2017 03:54 PM (noWW6)

550 >>> Yes! John Bellairs was great. I got a lot of his books - plus, they all have Edward Gorey illustrations!
Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:51 PM (7HtZB)

Jealous! Looks like my local library has it in, I'll have to go snag it this weekend.

Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 03:54 PM (hvf9s)

551 I want these adult toddlers in Gitmo to test the quality of water boarding.

Posted by: Under Fire at January 26, 2017 03:54 PM (57R5r)

552 Oh man. A "concerned lifelong Republican" (honestly, those were her exact words) called in the local radio show to say how concerned she is about Trump. The host pressed her for details, and all she could offer was how Trump is insulting the President of France! Who here was crank calling the Rich Zeoli show?

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:55 PM (7HtZB)

553 You can't quit me. I'm fired!

Posted by: EPA guy at January 26, 2017 03:55 PM (IqV8l)

554 I don't get it, either. My ears are not pierced, nor is anything else.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 03:43 PM
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Same here.

Totes deviant NOT to be pierced. Or tattooed.

/also, saving big $$ on inevitable dangly palm tree/cartoon/ chandelier earrings that I'd wear

Posted by: shibumi, frequent Warrior Princess and kitty cat fan at January 26, 2017 03:55 PM (J5mC3)

555

she's almost quoting Trump

the days of britain and america intervening in sovereign countries to remake the world in our own image are over...

but cannot stand by when we are needed to intervene

Israel = ally

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:55 PM (nQgx9)

556 How we gonna' get that cheese?

Posted by: Slowpoke Rodriguez at January 26, 2017 03:55 PM (Halhc)

557 * - Note, I'm a former Time POY myself.

Very nice.
Posted by: Mega at January 26, 2017 03:53 PM (VIiRP)
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It really was pretty exciting!

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:55 PM (xeeHA)

558 Back when I was a cook at a restaurant the chef had hired a new busboy. Said busboy had about twenty facial piercings.

Judging by who's working in public service these days I don't know how you even avoid that crap now. Neck tattoos used to be a sign of someone badass, not a snowflake with daddy issue and a security blanket. The haircuts and piercings and tats and all the rest, its a freakshow. I would have a hard time hiring.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (39g3+)

559 My ears are pierced but I love dangling earrings..

Posted by: IC at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (a0IVu)

560 547 Trump proposing a $60 billion a year tax on Mexican imports into this country to not only pay for the wall, but pay for upkeep and operation, as well.
----------------
The price of avocados will skyrocket. This will just destroy American consumers.
Posted by: RioBravo at January 26, 2017 03:53 PM (SsblQ)

No guac for my Doritos? Not cool, dude!

Posted by: Gary Johnson at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (7HtZB)

561

the days of britain and america intervening in sovereign countries to remake the world in our own image are over...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:55 PM (nQgx9)

I like this. Turns out, you can't force people into a democratic republic. It has to be made by them. If it doesn't happen organically, you get despots and dictators.

People get the government they deserve.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (8hICw)

562 You have to assume that most of those books sent at our expense to Third World countries ended up as fire kindling, toilet paper, or hut wall insulation.

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But the relevant measure of success is how many korans were saved.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (QK70D)

563 15% tax on all outbound wire transfers and money orders to Mexico.

Thats my suggestion anyway.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 03:54 PM (8XRCm)
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This is my preferred method. Actually, I'd go much higher than 15%.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (xeeHA)

564 "I like the tax on sending money to Mexico better for a big reason:'

I do too.

The peso has fallen by over 50% during the Obama years. This makes US earnings by Mexican Illegals more valuable back home. (Drug profits too).

Trump might be able to require withholding without going to Congress (it's not about adding a tax, but about collecting an existing tax).

Cutting the value of remittances will be more incentive to self-deportation.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (SIY7D)

565 sidebar lip reading hysterics

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2017 03:57 PM (OhOyF)

566 >>So, who wants to bet that one of those jagoffs called up their FAVORITE Washington Post reporter with the 'We quit!' baloney, and they got it on the air without bothering to check it because "JOHNNY SCOOP ACE REPORTER!"/echoplex.


It's striking that reporters who claim to be super duper knowledgable about the government don't know how this works.

Politically appointees routinely submit their resignations when a new administration takes over. Sometimes they are retained and sometime their resignations are accepted.

This is a fart in a windstorm.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 03:57 PM (/tuJf)

567 Posted by: shibumi, frequent Warrior Princess and kitty cat fan at January 26, 2017 03:55 PM (J5mC3)

Oh hell yes, I'd have some gaudy, blingy monstrosities that could be seen from space and drag my earlobes past my knees.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 03:57 PM (kqtMD)

568 Oh I think it's extremely likely this is just a negotiating tactic - an obvious one but still sound - the Mexican tariff thing.


One ironic story that of course will get no coverage in the "press" - the effect on companies that moved some of their activities to Mexico mostly because of predatory, destructive regulation ("environmental" and work "safety") in the US, esp. CA. There are many - from that small manufacturing sector that CA seems determined to exterminate.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 03:57 PM (QDnY+)

569 "Illegals mailing money back home to family makes the discontent lower there, and pumps money into the Mexican economy for bribes, etc."

The estimated cash revenue of the _narcotraficantes_ is larger than remittances, agriculture, tourism, and the oil and gas operations of PEMEX, all combined.

Mexico's gonna disintegrate financially when Trump's wall goes up and the drugs can't get to the USA as conveniently as they have been doing for fifty years' time.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 26, 2017 03:57 PM (noWW6)

570 I saw a guy get his ear ripped off when his helmet caught on his earring, They collected his ear and rushed him to the hospital. Coach turned to the players and said that's why I told you not to wear earnings when you play.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 26, 2017 03:57 PM (dKiJG)

571 Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:55 PM (7HtZB)

Really? How did Trump insult the President of France?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 26, 2017 03:57 PM (fDdVG)

572 563 This is my preferred method. Actually, I'd go much higher than 15%.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (xeeHA)

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So...16.5%?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 03:58 PM (/prE6)

573 564 "I like the tax on sending money to Mexico better for a big reason:'

I do too.

The peso has fallen by over 50% during the Obama years. This makes US earnings by Mexican Illegals more valuable back home. (Drug profits too).

Trump might be able to require withholding without going to Congress (it's not about adding a tax, but about collecting an existing tax).

Cutting the value of remittances will be more incentive to self-deportation.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (SIY7D)

We also give them Billions in foreign aid each year. We can just deduct it from there, too...

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 03:58 PM (8hICw)

574 IIRC, the Clintons fired all 93 United States Attorneys after taking office in 1993.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 03:58 PM (JBggj)

575 "Actually, I'd go much higher than 15%."

I'd withhold at the highest marginal rate.

"Que? You paid the tax already? Prove it."

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 26, 2017 03:58 PM (SIY7D)

576 * - Note, I'm a former Time POY myself.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:35 PM (xeeHA)




You too? 2003 POY here.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 26, 2017 03:58 PM (uiwCw)

577 I like this. Turns out, you can't force people into a democratic republic. It has to be made by them. If it doesn't happen organically, you get despots and dictators.

Hell ... you can't give 'em Freedom.

Example A ... here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 26, 2017 03:58 PM (fiGNd)

578 You have to assume that most of those books sent at our expense to Third World countries ended up as fire kindling, toilet paper, or hut wall insulation. But Obama still profited personally from every copy thus dispatched.

Pshaw, only Trump can have conflict of interest!

Buying up multiple copies of a politician's books to get around campaign finance laws is an old game. I can never remember the name of the guy in 1993 that got busted storing crates of his book in the capitol building; purchased just to get him money and parked. It was one of the Democrat corruption stories that ruined them in the 94 election.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:58 PM (39g3+)

579 My local bodega sells this non-alcoholic Sangria flavored drink. Mix in some vodka and rum and it's muy bueno. Hecho en Mexico.

I think Trump should exempt fruit flavored soft drinks of Mexican origin. That is MY red line.




Posted by: Skunky Choom at January 26, 2017 03:58 PM (u/p7K)

580 15% tax on all outbound wire transfers and money orders to Mexico.

Thats my suggestion anyway.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 03:54 PM (8XRCm)

That's my view. Tax the money going down, not consumers coming up.

Posted by: WisRich at January 26, 2017 03:59 PM (hdpay)

581

Advice to Putin: Engage but beware

~ PM May

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 03:59 PM (nQgx9)

582 571 Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:55 PM (7HtZB)

Really? How did Trump insult the President of France?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 26, 2017 03:57 PM (fDdVG)

Apparently she was the only person who knows about that. She was clearly an ill-prepared democrat plant.

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 03:59 PM (7HtZB)

583
* - Note, I'm a former Time POY myself.

Who wasn't?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_(Time_Person_of_the_Year)

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2017 03:59 PM (IqV8l)

584 But what we've had ... for as long as I can remember ... is Shrieking Banshies at the perimeter, with this monotone drone of "Let's not be hasty" from those that are supposedly the adults in charge.


That's not "quiet cool". That's fucking denial.


We're way past "quiet cool". That luxury is long, long gone.


Hence. Trump.
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1. Not everyone knows how to handle screaming children.
2. RE: denial, I never meant to imply there weren't issues on the Republican side. For example, John McCain...

Posted by: shibumi, frequent Warrior Princess and kitty cat fan at January 26, 2017 04:00 PM (J5mC3)

585 >>I think Trump should exempt fruit flavored soft drinks of Mexican origin

You to good for Purple Drank?

Drank 'merican!

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 04:00 PM (/tuJf)

586 Oh yes, remittance tax is far preferrable.


But that's for the final deal.


Right now, it's "no, Senator, my offer is nothing. You will pay for the gambling license."


Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 04:00 PM (QDnY+)

587 583
* - Note, I'm a former Time POY myself.

Who wasn't?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_(Time_Person_of_the_Year)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2017 03:59 PM (IqV8l)

======================

I have a friend who keeps that on his resume.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:00 PM (/prE6)

588 So...16.5%?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 03:58 PM (/prE6)

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I'm tempted to peg it to the exchange rate in such a way as they are better off just staying in Mexico. So, whatever that percentage would be.

Being that this would mostly effect non-citizens, I don't have any ideological issues with it.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:00 PM (xeeHA)

589 563 15% tax on all outbound wire transfers and money orders to Mexico.

Thats my suggestion anyway.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 03:54 PM (8XRCm)
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This is my preferred method. Actually, I'd go much higher than 15%.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (xeeHA)

I agree, went to a Mexican store and the line was long with people waiting to send money back.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 26, 2017 04:00 PM (dKiJG)

590 586 Oh yes, remittance tax is far preferrable.


But that's for the final deal.


Right now, it's "no, Senator, my offer is nothing. You will pay for the gambling license."


Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 04:00 PM (QDnY+)

====================

Godfather Part II!

What do I win?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (/prE6)

591 I have a friend who keeps that on his resume.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:00 PM (/prE6)

Well... Fact check says - TRUE

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (8hICw)

592 Who wasn't?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_(Time_Person_of_the_Year)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2017 03:59 PM (IqV8l)
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Shhhh... you're making me seem less impressive.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (xeeHA)

593 Assuming most have seen this.

If not, quench yourself on their tears.


http://tinyurl.com/hdklzuw

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (2x9LM)

594
A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.
Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.
In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite.
It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.

Posted by: David Windsor at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (e8kgV)

595 Where are the pervs in SoCal going to watch donkey sex?

Posted by: Under Fire at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (57R5r)

596 Ace
This ties in with my comment the other day about Keith Olbermann presenting himself as El Commandante of the Resistance not with a manly broad chest gazing to the future with a steely glare, but hiding under a flag blanket looking as if he's about to sob uncontrollably. It's so bizarre, yet here we are.

Posted by: J. Random Dude and His Amazing Phone at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (yKSCs)

597 588 I'm tempted to peg it to the exchange rate in such a way as they are better off just staying in Mexico. So, whatever that percentage would be.

Being that this would mostly effect non-citizens, I don't have any ideological issues with it.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:00 PM (xeeHA)

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How would that work? The stronger the peso the larger the tax?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:02 PM (/prE6)

598 Something that is little noted in the US press is that a significant amount of the annual remittances sent to Mexico are for extortion payments to the Mexican drug cartels. Family members in Mexico are held hostage under threat of death if the workers in the US fail to make their regular payments.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 04:02 PM (JBggj)

599 "It's not fair. It's not fucking fair. We're not fucking fascists like you guys."


LOLOLOLOL

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 26, 2017 04:02 PM (2x9LM)

600 The estimated cash revenue of the _narcotraficantes_ is larger than remittances, agriculture, tourism, and the oil and gas operations of PEMEX, all combined.

True, and definitely something to address, but that money doesn't help the Mexican people any, so cutting it off wouldn't shut off that safety valve and push them to fixing their government.

For crying out loud, Mexico is practically floating on oil, has tons of natural resources, exports lots of tasty stuff, and has a big, ready work force. I've worked personally with a lot of Mexicans and they are some hard working mothers.

The only reason they aren't a major world power, a 1st world force like the rest of North America is massive, systemic, historical corruption that never has to fear revolt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 04:02 PM (39g3+)

601 Assuming most have seen this.

If not, quench yourself on their tears.


http://tinyurl.com/hdklzuw
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (2x9LM)

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Oh. Snap.


New sherrif aint playing Homey.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 04:02 PM (8XRCm)

602 Bwahaha, Dallas teacher posted vid on Instagram of her, in a classroom, shooting a video of Trump with a water pistol and shouting DIE! at it. MAGA derangement syndrome strikes again!

Cookies and fingers in shape of water pistols hardest hit.

Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 04:02 PM (hvf9s)

603 595 Where are the pervs in SoCal going to watch donkey sex?
Posted by: Under Fire at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (57R5r)

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Same places. Except now they have to pass a wall.

Which is apparently a human rights violation, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:03 PM (/prE6)

604 Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry...
Posted by: David Windsor at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (e8kgV)

Whelp, so much for that...

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:03 PM (8hICw)

605 Where are the pervs in SoCal going to watch donkey sex?


Posted by: Under Fire at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (57R5r)



Los Angeles?

Posted by: Country Singer at January 26, 2017 04:04 PM (uiwCw)

606 Posted by: David Windsor at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (e8kgV)

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FYI: When posting a comment this long, it is customary to include an Executive Summary

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 26, 2017 04:04 PM (QK70D)

607 How would that work? The stronger the peso the larger the tax?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:02 PM (/prE6)

Wouldn't the opposite make more sense? At least, if you're trying to be punitive to the people sending the money back.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:04 PM (8hICw)

608 I have a friend who keeps that on his resume.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Not seeing an issue with any of this.

Posted by: Nobel Laureate Michael Mann at January 26, 2017 04:04 PM (10LGw)

609 602 Bwahaha, Dallas teacher posted vid on Instagram of her, in a classroom, shooting a video of Trump with a water pistol and shouting DIE! at it. MAGA derangement syndrome strikes again!

Cookies and fingers in shape of water pistols hardest hit.
Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 04:02 PM (hvf9s)

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I wouldn't care if we hadn't just gone through 8 years where doing this to the sitting president was proof positive of racism and treason.

Let progressives eat the fruit of their labors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:04 PM (/prE6)

610 606 Posted by: David Windsor at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (e8kgV)

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Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 26, 2017 04:04 PM (QK70D)

He's just quoting, Ike. He's fine.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:05 PM (8hICw)

611 I think this "Doomsday Clock" needs it's own thread. The woman being interviewed said that "it's a metaphor. But we are literally minutes away from the end of the world."

Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 04:05 PM (7HtZB)

612 Where are the pervs in SoCal going to watch donkey sex?

Si-Span?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 26, 2017 04:05 PM (oVJmc)

613 I can never remember the name of the guy in 1993 that got busted storing crates of his book in the capitol building; purchased just to get him money and parked. It was one of the Democrat corruption stories that ruined them in the 94 election.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Jim Wright (D-TX)? Unions and 'friends' bought thousands and thousands of his books, which no one ever read. It was a money laundering scheme.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 04:05 PM (NBHj5)

614 "15% tax on all outbound wire transfers and money orders to Mexico."

By my kitchen table arithmetic, you'll net about $3.75B/yr.

In under ten years, you'd have Trump's wall paid off.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 26, 2017 04:06 PM (noWW6)

615 607
Wouldn't the opposite make more sense? At least, if you're trying to be punitive to the people sending the money back.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:04 PM (8hICw)

========================

I hadn't thought it through and was genuinely asking how it would work best.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:06 PM (/prE6)

616 608 I have a friend who keeps that on his resume.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Not seeing an issue with any of this.
Posted by: Nobel Laureate Michael Mann at January 26, 2017 04:04 PM (10LGw)

It's all good.

Posted by: Nobel Laureate Barack Obama at January 26, 2017 04:06 PM (7HtZB)

617 611 t "it's a metaphor. But we are literally minutes away from the end of the world."
Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 04:05 PM (7HtZB)

I'm guessing... ENGLISH major

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:06 PM (8hICw)

618 How would that work? The stronger the peso the larger the tax?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:02 PM (/prE6)
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My initial thought (not well-researched or planned) was the opposite of that.

Ultimately, my serious point is that I'd support what would otherwise be confiscatory rates on that.

The thing is, my biggest problem is NOT with the Mexican family that moves to America for a better life and stays here. It is with the economic opportunists that know they can get away with it living 12 to a house sending 70% of their income back home.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:07 PM (xeeHA)

619 Jim Wright (D-TX)? Unions and 'friends' bought thousands and thousands of his books, which no one ever read. It was a money laundering scheme.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Rephrasing; "... disgraced/resigned Speaker of the House Jim Wright..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 04:07 PM (NBHj5)

620 614 "15% tax on all outbound wire transfers and money orders to Mexico."

By my kitchen table arithmetic, you'll net about $3.75B/yr.

In under ten years, you'd have Trump's wall paid off.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 26, 2017 04:06 PM (noWW6)

======================

*Price is Right losing sound*

"Looks like you've done some static tax analysis. Behavior will change."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:07 PM (/prE6)

621

The Doomsday Clock is a symbolic clock face, representing a countdown to possible global catastrophe (e.g. nuclear war or climate change). It has been maintained since 1947 by the members of the Science and Security Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, who are in turn advised by the Governing Board and the Board of Sponsors, including 18 Nobel Laureates.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2017 04:07 PM (IqV8l)

622

One ironic story that of course will get no coverage in the "press" - the effect on companies that moved some of their activities to Mexico mostly because of predatory, destructive regulation ("environmental" and work "safety") in the US, esp. CA. There are many - from that small manufacturing sector that CA seems determined to exterminate.

Posted by: rhomboid

Bet they won't be moving back to Cali, Texas bound

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2017 04:07 PM (2RVmA)

623 I can never remember the name of the guy in 1993 that got busted
storing crates of his book in the capitol building; purchased just to
get him money and parked. It was one of the Democrat corruption stories
that ruined them in the 94 election.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

As a book, it would offend you even more than Obama's autobiographies. A lot of empty pages (to make notes?).

Posted by: Skunky Choom at January 26, 2017 04:08 PM (u/p7K)

624 >>I'm guessing... ENGLISH major

Madona disciple.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 04:08 PM (/tuJf)

625 "Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:06 PM (8hICw) "

It's like Ben Stiller in Dodgeball.

"It's me taking the bull by the horns. It's a metaphor....But that actually happened, though."

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at January 26, 2017 04:08 PM (oZ6kz)

626 The generally useless mayor of San Diego (who is 10,000% better than the alternatives - sort of the situation we all were in until Trump came in and stole the GOP mantle and won the presidency) may be a study in the "paper tiger" aspect of the "resistance".


Yesterday, in response to the Trump EOs, he issued a written statement that is breathtaking in its idiocy - something you'd expect to be read at a city council meeting by a suburban airhead NPR-listening activist. "We want to build bridges, while others build walls" and garbage like that.


Today? Actual interview response in which he emphasizes that SD is "not a sanctuary city", and that SDPD cooperates with the feds as prescribed by law.


Heh. The guy is sad - seems to think he's got anywhere up to go, politically, in a CA that has become Venezbabwe - and here he is flopping around trying to sound as stupid and racist as a Democrat one day, and reasonable the next.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 04:08 PM (QDnY+)

627

still need to buy/support LLBean after her attack

now, UK. Burberry?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 04:08 PM (nQgx9)

628 Jim Wright (D-TX)? Unions and 'friends' bought thousands and thousands
of his books, which no one ever read. It was a money laundering scheme.
==========

That was quick, Sir.

IIRC, Jim Wright was Speaker of the House at the time, and the scandal was a contributing factor leading to the Gingrich Revolution.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 04:08 PM (JBggj)

629 This is the first I have heard of the doomsday clock having anything to do with climate change.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2017 04:08 PM (IqV8l)

630 618 How would that work? The stronger the peso the larger the tax?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:02 PM (/prE6)
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My initial thought (not well-researched or planned) was the opposite of that.

Ultimately, my serious point is that I'd support what would otherwise be confiscatory rates on that.

The thing is, my biggest problem is NOT with the Mexican family that moves to America for a better life and stays here. It is with the economic opportunists that know they can get away with it living 12 to a house sending 70% of their income back home.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:07 PM (xeeHA)

=======================

I get that. I'm just having problems figuring out which way would generate more revenue without using pen and paper.

I haven't thought about exchange rates in years, and when you add on tax rates as well, I just go a little loopy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:08 PM (/prE6)

631 *Price is Right losing sound*

"Looks like you've done some static tax analysis. Behavior will change."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:07 PM (/prE6)

I HATE it when people go over on the showcase showdown.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:08 PM (8hICw)

632 There aren't any stress workshops for the people that the EPA put out of business I guess.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 26, 2017 04:09 PM (VdICR)

633
True, and definitely something to address, but that money doesn't help the Mexican people any, so cutting it off wouldn't shut off that safety valve and push them to fixing their government.


Hard for the narcos to buy off the Federales and politicions if you cut off the money from drug sales.I'd say that might help the Mexican people

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 26, 2017 04:09 PM (lKyWE)

634
How weird that the doomsday clock moves towards midnight after Trumps election and the other way after obamas. Its as if this is all political or something.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2017 04:09 PM (ODxAs)

635

Barbour

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 04:09 PM (nQgx9)

636 "it's a metaphor. But we are literally minutes away from the end of the world."
Posted by: josephistan
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It's a metaphor, but I am literally minutes away from moving to Canada.

Posted by: Cher at January 26, 2017 04:09 PM (NBHj5)

637 Theresa May just finished talking to the Repubs in Philly.

And, to re-iterate from yesterday, Liz Claman needs to take a tranquilizer, and she still has a great rack.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 26, 2017 04:09 PM (8iiMU)

638 I'd like to announce the rate for a coyote to bring you to America is now over $10,000 per person.
I don't know how they afford it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 26, 2017 04:10 PM (8cEQL)

639 Looks like you've done some static tax analysis. Behavior will change

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So.... for some.... instead of 15% staying in the US.... 100% will stay in the US??

Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 04:10 PM (8XRCm)

640 I'm behaving like a slut, but it's a metaphor for.... uh, wait....

Posted by: Madonna at January 26, 2017 04:10 PM (NBHj5)

641 636 "it's a metaphor. But we are literally minutes away from the end of the world."
Posted by: josephistan
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It's a metaphor, but I am literally minutes away from moving to Canada.
Posted by: Cher at January 26, 2017 04:09 PM (NBHj5)

====================

What happened to Jupiter, Cher?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:10 PM (/prE6)

642 Theresa May just finished talking to the Repubs in Philly.

And, to re-iterate from yesterday, Liz Claman needs to take a tranquilizer, and she still has a great rack.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 26, 2017 04:09 PM (8iiMU)


She quoted Reagan.

Went all out.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (nQgx9)

643 >>What is the Spanish word for schadenfreude?


Hueso de alegrķa perversa.

"Bone of perverse joy."

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (zke7T)

644 640 I'm behaving like a slut, but it's a metaphor for.... uh, wait....
Posted by: Madonna at January 26, 2017 04:10 PM (NBHj5)

"Me, you dumb bimbo."

~ Sandra Fluke

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (8hICw)

645
About the tax on Mexican goods

Im not panicking. Trump is negotiating. He is better at that than any of us. He is slapping Mexico around a little bit

Posted by: ThunderB at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (O3DC5)

646 There are a lot of things we want to negotiate out of Mexico. "paying for the wall" is actually trivial in the scheme of things, but the optics are now important.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (SIY7D)

647 It's a metaphor, but somebody should get some gasoline and dynamite and blow that fucking White House to smithereens.

Posted by: Madonna at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (QK70D)

648 Hey Berserker you around...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXPmz9b4lM

Posted by: ginaswo at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (O+zHO)

649
I think this "Doomsday Clock" needs it's own thread. The woman being
interviewed said that "it's a metaphor. But we are literally minutes
away from the end of the world."

Was she "literally shaking" when she said it? Because if she wasn't, it doesn't count.

Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (qJhUV)

650 I get that. I'm just having problems figuring out which way would generate more revenue without using pen and paper.

I haven't thought about exchange rates in years, and when you add on tax rates as well, I just go a little loopy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:08 PM (/prE6)
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I'm with you. I'd need to write it down and do some examples to get the idea straight in my head. Ideally, it would reward Mexico for having a stronger currency overall so the closer they got to parity, the lower the tax would be.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (xeeHA)

651 I think Trump should exempt fruit flavored soft drinks of Mexican origin. That is MY red line.




Posted by: Skunky Choom at January 26, 2017 03:58 PM (u/p7K)


Let me help you out. Go to Walmart, buy a bottle of Oakleaf Merlot for $2.94 and a bottle of Twist for $.88. Mix to taste. (Or spend a few more cents and get Sierra Mist made with real sugar instead)

You're welcome.

Posted by: blaster at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (tewYv)

652 She quoted Reagan.



Went all out.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (nQgx9)
My goodness. We live in interesting times.

Posted by: IC at January 26, 2017 04:12 PM (a0IVu)

653
What happened to Jupiter, Cher?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


It's not the kind of place to raise your kids.
In fact, it's cold as hell.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 26, 2017 04:12 PM (IqV8l)

654 How weird that the doomsday clock moves towards midnight after Trumps election and the other way after obamas. Its as if this is all political or something.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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It's because I reset the clock.

Posted by: Hillary, with a red button at January 26, 2017 04:12 PM (NBHj5)

655 639 Looks like you've done some static tax analysis. Behavior will change

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So.... for some.... instead of 15% staying in the US.... 100% will stay in the US??
Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 04:10 PM (8XRCm)

======================

Yup...and none of that will get collected by the federal government.

Others will find different ways to send money. Cash in an envelope is possible, although much riskier, of course.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:12 PM (/prE6)

656

I trust Trump

Posted by: ThunderB at January 26, 2017 04:12 PM (O3DC5)

657 The nuclear Doomsday clock was featured in Watchmen.

It was run by partisans, and went forward when a Republican won the White House, and back when a Dem won.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 26, 2017 04:12 PM (VdICR)

658 Let's not even joke about that.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 04:12 PM (JBggj)

659 >>> This ties in with my comment the other day about Keith Olbermann presenting himself as El Commandante of the Resistance not with a manly broad chest gazing to the future with a steely glare, but hiding under a flag blanket looking as if he's about to sob uncontrollably. It's so bizarre, yet here we are.
Posted by: J. Random Dude and His Amazing Phone at January 26, 2017 04:01 PM (yKSCs)


The vid Olberdumb put out of why Trump must resign is HILARIOUS. His bathtub must be full of tears by now.

Posted by: LizLem at January 26, 2017 04:12 PM (hvf9s)

660 Yup...and none of that will get collected by the federal government.

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So..... WIN WIN??

Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 04:13 PM (8XRCm)

661 So.... for some.... instead of 15% staying in the US.... 100% will stay in the US??
Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 04:10 PM (8XRCm)
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Excellent point.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:13 PM (xeeHA)

662 634

How weird that the doomsday clock moves towards midnight after
Trumps election and the other way after obamas. Its as if this is all
political or something.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2017 04:09 PM (ODxAs)

Different visions of doom maybe.

Posted by: local news at January 26, 2017 04:13 PM (1isJI)

663 http://www.purdey.com/clothing-accessories/ladies/

red fox fur scarf

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 26, 2017 04:13 PM (nQgx9)

664 Today? Actual interview response in which he emphasizes that SD is "not
a sanctuary city", and that SDPD cooperates with the feds as prescribed
by law.





Heh. The guy is sad - seems to think he's got anywhere up to go,
politically, in a CA that has become Venezbabwe - and here he is
flopping around trying to sound as stupid and racist as a Democrat one
day, and reasonable the next.
----

He's keeping everyone happy. Lie to the progs to keep them from getting violent and protesting.

Lie to the government to keep them off his doorstep.

Tell everyone what they want to hear.

Posted by: shibumi, frequent Warrior Princess and kitty cat fan at January 26, 2017 04:13 PM (J5mC3)

665 650 I'm with you. I'd need to write it down and do some examples to get the idea straight in my head. Ideally, it would reward Mexico for having a stronger currency overall so the closer they got to parity, the lower the tax would be.

Yeah, that's the ticket.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (xeeHA)

====================

I thought that would be a sub element of it.

Maybe it could be a carrot that would get Mexico to improve itself somewhat.

Hey...why do I suddenly want chili?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:13 PM (/prE6)

666 645
About the tax on Mexican goods

Im not panicking. Trump is negotiating. He is better at that than any of us. He is slapping Mexico around a little bit
Posted by: ThunderB at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (O3DC5)

646 There are a lot of things we want to negotiate out of Mexico. "paying for the wall" is actually trivial in the scheme of things, but the optics are now important.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (SIY7D)


I think, right now, Trump is the guy at the poker table with the largest pot - using it to its full potential, forcing everyone around to go all in or fold.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:13 PM (8hICw)

667
Was she "literally shaking" when she said it? Because if she wasn't, it doesn't count.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 26, 2017 04:11 PM (qJhUV)

+++

LOL

Posted by: washrivergal at January 26, 2017 04:14 PM (Ivjge)

668 656

I trust Trump
Posted by: ThunderB at January 26, 2017 04:12 PM (O3DC5)

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I believe in Harvey Dent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:14 PM (/prE6)

669 Judging by who's working in public service these days I don't know how you even avoid that crap now. Neck tattoos used to be a sign of someone badass, not a snowflake with daddy issue and a security blanket. The haircuts and piercings and tats and all the rest, its a freakshow. I would have a hard time hiring.

===============================

All of that stuff is meh next to the femboys with manbuns. Where I live is a little on the redneck side and to see these sunken chested effeminate boys is a bit startling. Of course, the femboys I've seen tend to be asking if I want a coffee refill or how I want my steak.

Posted by: Blake at January 26, 2017 04:14 PM (qC1Sy)

670 >>It was run by partisans, and went forward when a Republican won the White House, and back when a Dem won.

When Obama gave Iran, the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, nukes, the world became a safer place.

It's science.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 26, 2017 04:14 PM (/tuJf)

671 It's a metaphor, but somebody should get some gasoline and dynamite and blow that fucking White House to smithereens.
Posted by: Madonna
------------

Now, if she had said; "... somebody should get some gasoline and dynamite and, like , blow that fucking White House to smithereens."

Then it would have been a simile.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 04:14 PM (NBHj5)

672 I don't know about the rest of you - but ONLY the EPA employees are crying?

Kinda disappointed in Trump. What a pussy.

Posted by: blaster at January 26, 2017 04:15 PM (tewYv)

673 Posted by: fixerupper at January 26, 2017 04:10 PM (8XRCm)
No, they help adult children and elderly parents. One guy that works for us, his daughter is a nurse. He paid for her tuition and still sends her money because the wages are lower there but the prices of goods are the same as here.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 26, 2017 04:15 PM (8cEQL)

674 Yup...and none of that will get collected by the federal government.

Others will find different ways to send money. Cash in an envelope is possible, although much riskier, of course.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:12 PM (/prE6)
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Well, obviously SOME of it would find its way into the coffers via other taxes, actually being reported on income tax, etc.

But yes, the actual revenue would go down after the tax was in place.

Sending it in envelopes feels like one of those things that would have a lot of unintended consequences in lawless Mexico.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:15 PM (xeeHA)

675 the days of britain and america intervening in sovereign countries to remake the world in our own image are over...

TV?

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2017 04:15 PM (2RVmA)

676 "And your feelings are facts, and #Science. The evidence you present that your feelings are true is your unhinged emotional incontinence."

Ace if you keep up this terrific and amusing as hell writing, we may consider letting you comment as well.

May.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 26, 2017 04:15 PM (kfcYC)

677 ThunderB I don't think anyone is concerned. As Ignoramus points out, I think most here recognize that Trump is engaging in negotiating tactics.


And boy is it entertaining to see - finally.


And in case anyone missed it up above, this little mini-nuke from Banno, as reported by AP:


"The media has zero integrity, zero intelligence and no hard work."


Everyone here is always on about the schadenboners, but I just can't stop laughing (think Vincent Price, maniacal laughter).

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 04:15 PM (QDnY+)

678 671 Now, if she had said; "... somebody should get some gasoline and dynamite and, like , blow that fucking White House to smithereens."

Then it would have been a simile.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 04:14 PM (NBHj5)

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Hey...no one said that there would be grammar.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:15 PM (/prE6)

679 All of that stuff is meh next to the femboys with manbuns. Where I live
is a little on the redneck side and to see these sunken chested
effeminate boys is a bit startling. Of course, the femboys I've seen
tend to be asking if I want a coffee refill or how I want my steak.
----

Femboys.

Great term.

Also... pretty sure femboys can come in a variety of ages.

Posted by: shibumi, frequent Warrior Princess and kitty cat fan at January 26, 2017 04:16 PM (J5mC3)

680 Bannon, obviously, not "Banno" - unless I just coined a cool new nickname for him, that is ....

Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 04:16 PM (QDnY+)

681 If these twinkies want some real tears, let them go swim in the Animas River along with all the dead fish they didn't care about.

Posted by: Skeptical Voter at January 26, 2017 04:16 PM (Sda6L)

682 I'm really liking the Mark Steyn show on CRTV.

Posted by: Infidel at January 26, 2017 04:16 PM (ByNzS)

683 674
Well, obviously SOME of it would find its way into the coffers via other taxes, actually being reported on income tax, etc.

But yes, the actual revenue would go down after the tax was in place.

Sending it in envelopes feels like one of those things that would have a lot of unintended consequences in lawless Mexico.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:15 PM (xeeHA)

=====================

My only point is that simple predictions of collected tax from remittances will be as accurate as predicted tax revenue from any other type of tax.

It will be less than we expect as behavior will change.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:17 PM (/prE6)

684 I think Trump may have grabbed the EPA's pussy. Or maybe punched it's baby dick. I'm leaning pussy. It's how I roll.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 26, 2017 04:17 PM (kfcYC)

685 Others will find different ways to send money. Cash in an envelope is possible, although much riskier, of course.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

--

The reason they use Western Union is because 90 percent of the cash in the mail is stolen by Mexican postal workers, the other ten percent is just what they miss.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 26, 2017 04:17 PM (7ZVPa)

686 Bwahaha, Dallas teacher posted vid on Instagram of her, in a classroom, shooting a video of Trump with a water pistol and shouting DIE! at it. MAGA derangement syndrome strikes again!

In a school district with zero tolerance policy: no guns, no toy guns, no gun-shaped things no pictures of guns, etc, etc.

How weird that the doomsday clock moves towards midnight after Trumps election and the other way after obamas. Its as if this is all political or something.

A few years back they started adding "global warming danger" into the calculation. It was always pretty political, but its gotten much, much more so. They've been threatening doom for nearly 40 years, always seconds away. After a while you would think people just get tired of hearing that cry of "wolf."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 04:17 PM (39g3+)

687 I don't know about the rest of you - but ONLY the EPA employees are crying?

Kinda disappointed in Trump. What a pussy.
Posted by: blaster
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I am concerned that only EPA employees are crying.

Posted by: Art, newbie with three letter name at January 26, 2017 04:17 PM (NBHj5)

688 Wtf is this Fleetwood Mac shit!

Posted by: Jeff E. at January 26, 2017 04:17 PM (1yOGV)

689 Femboys.

Great term.

Also... pretty sure femboys can come in a variety of ages.

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Not original with me, unfortunately. I'm not that clever.

Posted by: Blake at January 26, 2017 04:17 PM (qC1Sy)

690 Hey...no one said that there would be grammar.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:15 PM (/prE6)
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This thread has had grammar AND math. It's just too much.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:18 PM (xeeHA)

691 Hey...no one said that there would be grammar.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:15 PM (/prE6)

Grammar Nazis are EVERYWHERE

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:18 PM (8hICw)

692 Jim Wright (D-TX)? Unions and 'friends' bought thousands and thousands of his books, which no one ever read.

Yeah, that was the guy. Man the Dems were packed with some crooks back then. I mean they are crooked now, but back then they were basically just criminals without even hiding it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 04:18 PM (39g3+)

693 Others will find different ways to send money. Cash in an envelope is possible, although much riskier, of course.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Please

Posted by: Mail handlers Union at January 26, 2017 04:18 PM (2RVmA)

694 It's not the best solution, but perhaps we should bribe the caterwauling left. Tell them if they don't sit down and be quiet, then we won't go to Whole Foods for organic gluten-free non-GMO free-range froyo later.

Posted by: irright at January 26, 2017 04:18 PM (pMGkg)

695 The reason they use Western Union is because 90 percent of the cash in the mail is stolen by Mexican postal workers, the other ten percent is just what they miss.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
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The USPS will not sell insurance on items sent to Mexico.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 04:19 PM (NBHj5)

696 Bannon, obviously, not "Banno" - unless I just coined a cool new nickname for him, that is ....
Posted by: rhomboid at January 26, 2017 04:16 PM (QDnY+)

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Cook em, Banno!

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:19 PM (xeeHA)

697 611 I think this "Doomsday Clock" needs it's own thread. The woman being interviewed said that "it's a metaphor. But we are literally minutes away from the end of the world."
Posted by: josephistan at January 26, 2017 04:05 PM (7HtZB)


English, do you speak it?

Posted by: rickl at January 26, 2017 04:19 PM (zoehZ)

698 690 This thread has had grammar AND math. It's just too much.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:18 PM (xeeHA)

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I need my safe space.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:19 PM (/prE6)

699 694 It's not the best solution, but perhaps we should bribe the caterwauling left. Tell them if they don't sit down and be quiet, then we won't go to Whole Foods for organic gluten-free non-GMO free-range froyo later.
Posted by: irright at January 26, 2017 04:18 PM (pMGkg)

See, in parenting, what you're proposing is not a bribe. It's a consequence.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:19 PM (8hICw)

700 >>> How weird that the doomsday clock moves towards midnight after Trumps election and the other way after obamas. Its as if this is all political or something.Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2017 04:09 PM (ODxAs)
Different visions of doom maybe.Posted by: local news at January 26, 2017 04:13 PM (1isJI)


No, North Korea and Iran, you can't drop nuclear bombs today, the clock does not have its hands at midnight! Don't you seeeeee the clock!!

*north Korea and Iran laugh, push the launch buttons anyway*

Oh crap.

Posted by: SJWers pointing at the doomsday clock at January 26, 2017 04:20 PM (hvf9s)

701
I'd like to announce the rate for a coyote to bring you to America is now over $10,000 per person. I don't know how they afford it.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 26, 2017 04:10 PM (8cEQL)


By carrying 40lbs of heroin across the border or by escorting a young girl or boy across to be delivered to sex trafficers

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 26, 2017 04:20 PM (lKyWE)

702 I need my safe space.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 26, 2017 04:19 PM (/prE6)

No safe spaces will be afforded to anyone for any reason.

~ AoSHQ style guide

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:20 PM (8hICw)

703 Why aren't my Comments Posting?
Posted by: garrett goes LiveBlog at January 26, 2017 02:16 PM

Ceci n'est pas un comment.

Posted by: zombie rene magritte at January 26, 2017 04:20 PM (lJXY3)

704 It will be less than we expect as behavior will change.

I agree, but for me its less about the revenue than about pressuring Mexico to change. The people of Mexico deserve better.

Here's the video that states it better than I do. He looks kind of douchey but hold on to your seats and listen

https://youtu.be/UOOBlcOIcLs

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 04:20 PM (39g3+)

705 What would be the rightwing answer to the Doomsday Clock? It feels like there should be one that describes how close we are to completely losing our freedoms.
Not a clock though.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 26, 2017 04:21 PM (Om16U)

706 I'm certainly glad my religion admonishes me to suffer in silence. The sack and assholishness of the Government as God crowd is disturbing.

Posted by: no good deed at January 26, 2017 04:21 PM (hJamr)

707 Ceci n'est pas un NOOD.

Posted by: zombie rene magritte at January 26, 2017 04:21 PM (lJXY3)

708
If I was running ICE, I would just have the agents camp out around Western Union offices.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2017 04:22 PM (ODxAs)

709 Nood.

Glenn Beck.

Thankfully not nude.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:22 PM (8hICw)

710 It feels like there should be one that describes how close we are to completely losing our freedoms.
Not a clock though.

A jail cell you add bars to?

Posted by: no good deed at January 26, 2017 04:22 PM (hJamr)

711 Now, if she had said; "... somebody should get some gasoline and dynamite and, like , blow that f**king White House to smithereens."

Then it would have been a simile.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 26, 2017 04:14 PM (NBHj5)


Eons ago, when she released that silly sex book, she was a guest on Nightline with Koppel. At the time I was too dumb to know better, so I was ready for her to squish some wisdom onto the old foop.

Instead, it was a fawning attempt by Koppel to give her room to explain how her oh-so-modern ideas about sex would force the rubes into the future.

The word she used more than any other: "Like."

As in: "Like, I wanna show the people, like, how they can, like, you know, be all sexy and stuff. You know?"

I can't think of anything that ruins a boner worse than a stupid chick, opening her mouth.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2017 04:22 PM (TOk1P)

712 He looks kind of douchey but hold on to your seats and listen

https://youtu.be/UOOBlcOIcLs
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 04:20 PM (39g3+)
--

Kind of?

He should have Masengil patches all over his jacket like a NASCAR driver.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 26, 2017 04:22 PM (xeeHA)

713 I am from ze Environmental Politics Agency. Ve have vays of making you talk!

Posted by: Green Nazi at January 26, 2017 04:22 PM (0dmP2)

714 And it's not just tears. Acting like a squealing 12 year old girl who just got her first pony is also valued. My god, watch any of the daytime dreck like Kelly Ripa's show, Ellen, Rachel Ray, etc. If you're in the audience, it's expected of you to debase yourself by behaving in an preadolescent manner.

Posted by: KGB at January 26, 2017 04:22 PM (DVa+U)

715 you can take my gorgeous dangly earrings only from my dead body.

Posted by: willow at January 26, 2017 04:23 PM (R7cwD)

716
Here we go again!

A new fake poll is now being pushed by Fake News says President Trump's approval rating in now at 36%, lower than last week's fake poll showing 40% approvals for Mr Trump.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 26, 2017 04:23 PM (2Glrq)

717 sooth, a poll of the EPA workers.

Posted by: willow at January 26, 2017 04:25 PM (R7cwD)

718 Funny thing is, Jim Wright and Jack Brooks were in office when the LBJ Texas Democrats were at their apogee in Washington. After the 1994 Crime Bill debacle, all that went away in a hurry, paving the way for the new wave of Texas Republicans like Tom Delay.

Posted by: mrp at January 26, 2017 04:25 PM (JBggj)

719 I can't think of anything that ruins a boner worse than a stupid chick, opening her mouth.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2017 04:22 PM (TOk1P)

As the french gal in Braveheart said:

"The English don't know what a tongue is for."

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 26, 2017 04:25 PM (8hICw)

720 I might be lying. but only as much as the msm

Posted by: willow at January 26, 2017 04:25 PM (R7cwD)

721
See, that fake poll last week didn't have its intended affect -- to put a scare into the Trump admin and make the Republicans run away from the Trump agenda.

So what does the Fake News do to remedy this? They publish and push a new fake poll that shows an even worse approval rating! Because that's all they know: fake propaganda.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 26, 2017 04:26 PM (2Glrq)

722 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 26, 2017 03:57 PM (dKiJG)

Little girls, playground equipment accidents also very common. I've never seen an entire ear come off, but I've seen some nasty tears.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 26, 2017 04:27 PM (kqtMD)

723 nice of you to go all "appollonian" (reserved) and "dionisyan" (wailing) but I like it better back when we just used to call that "The way Men acted" and "The way Women acted".

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 26, 2017 04:28 PM (Mb+1L)

724
nobody says nood anymore?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 26, 2017 04:28 PM (2Glrq)

725 701 - if people can scrape up $10,000 to be smuggled into the US, why can't the scrape up half that to start a business right where they live?

Posted by: vivi at January 26, 2017 04:31 PM (11H2y)

726 558 Back when I was a cook at a restaurant the chef had hired a new busboy. Said busboy had about twenty facial piercings.

Judging by who's working in public service these days I don't know how you even avoid that crap now. Neck tattoos used to be a sign of someone badass, not a snowflake with daddy issue and a security blanket. The haircuts and piercings and tats and all the rest, its a freakshow. I would have a hard time hiring.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 26, 2017 03:56 PM (39g3+)

I have to agree. Hell, these days, somebody stands out more if they DON'T have any facial piercings or a hipster haircut.

I never got any tattoos or piercings, because my father would have broken every damned bone in my body if I ever did.

Parents need to be allowed to make their children afraid of them again.

Posted by: Hikaru at January 26, 2017 04:31 PM (CMbMd)

727 "Nood" was said twice although the once in French might have confused you, Sooth.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 26, 2017 04:31 PM (lJXY3)

728 Emotional incontinence
I like that - truth with rhythm.
Emotional incontinence
Emotional incontinence
Emotional incontinence
Stealing it.

Posted by: scoville unit at January 26, 2017 04:32 PM (hWh8W)

729 I find great joy on this headline.

Posted by: ting hung lo at January 26, 2017 04:51 PM (xZc4z)

730 My cars just has simultaneous sooty tailpipe emissions .....i'm feeling a tingling up my exhaust system...10 years of Carbon in one schadenboner.............

Posted by: saf at January 26, 2017 05:14 PM (+zN6H)

731 Thanks, Ace.

Printing this out for the kid- who's feeling her Appolonian reserve means she's an uncaring bitch in the face of the two month's long meltdown of her friends.

Posted by: Sal at January 26, 2017 06:32 PM (hA4a+)

732 Back in the late 80s, I was flying Blackhawks at Fort Campbell in Kentucky. During a night training exercise, two Blackhawks collided, with all onboard lost. Since it was in a remote, wooded area, we had to fly up there, put the bodies into body bags and fly them back to the post. The carnage was an awful mess now seared into my memory.

I volunteered to go because I knew all of the crews and wanted to spare my comrades of having that sad task. I didn't shed a single tear until I got home and cried myself asleep.

I was taught that part of being a man is being strong, dispassionate and in control of one's emotions at all times.

When I hear about these pussies crying and whining like spoiled bitches because their candidate didn't win. It makes me want to slap them upside the head.

I hope Trump fires all of these drags on the oxygen supply. The tears will really start flowing when they find out the private sector wants results, not excuses.

Posted by: Grizzledcoastie at January 26, 2017 07:24 PM (GV08/)

733 This is the bureaucratic equivalent of "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" It fills my heart with sunshine.

Posted by: Darrin Cook at January 27, 2017 12:40 AM (DDqKJ)

734 Whenever I'm disappointed with election results I just come here. It's good to let my sorrow out with jabs at the left wing moon bats along with everybody else. After a while I feel better and go on about my business. AoS is very therapeutic.

Posted by: Case at January 27, 2017 02:47 AM (rb1zT)

735 'Romanticismus ist krank, classicismus ist gesundheit' - Stuff Goethe Maybe Said. Also, contrast Elinor and Marianne Dashwood.

Posted by: Stephen K at January 27, 2017 04:06 AM (xSBLK)

736 In this view, the ability to dampen emotion to think coolly and without tantrums and baby-seethings is actually a mark of inauthenticity, and therefore pretense and deception, as the man who is not freaking out like a sugar-rushed child is suppressing one's true Inner Adult Baby nature and therefore not being true to one's true essential nature as a raving lunatic.

In this regime, where emotion and shrieking are not signs that one is departing from truth but on top of it and inside it and grabbing it by the hips, spazzing out and freaking out are positively valorized, and people, being competitive and seeking to be "the best" in a field, attempt to top each other with even more amped-up displays of frantic fear and fury.
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Nearly 25 years as a trial lawyer. Closing arguments have changed. This is a wonderful observation and description, of a rolling tragedy.

Posted by: Simplemind at January 27, 2017 07:13 PM (ZuGkg)

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