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Trump Signs Executive Orders: Withdraws from TPP, Ends Funding for Overseas Health Services That Provide Abortions, Freezes Some Federal Hiring

Pen and a phone, but mostly the pen.


Making good on a campaign promise, President Trump on Monday signed an executive order withdrawing the United States from the controversial Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal.


He also signed two other orders -- one placing a hiring freeze on some federal workers and the other reinstating a ban on funding for international groups that perform abortions.

Re: the hiring freeze, he said this about it:


The new commander-in-chief also signed an executive order on Monday that froze hiring for some federal government employees.

"Except for the military," he said when signing it.

Government unions immediately began screaming, and that's a real danger, because federal government unions are so popular with the American public.

Per that report, the freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.

Posted by: Ace at 03:19 PM




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1 st?

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2017 03:21 PM (wCEn4)

2 tenth?

Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:21 PM (8mO0Q)

3 Also, the Madives are to be nuked, just for practice.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:21 PM (8ZskC)

4 DMV hardest hit.

Posted by: IC at January 23, 2017 03:21 PM (a0IVu)

5 yay! first time in the top 10!

Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (8mO0Q)

6 I'd like to see Trump and the Republican Congress pass a "law" that no "laws" can be passed by a federal agency without Congressional approval, like a formal bill.

This idea that EPA bureaucrats can pass far reaching regulations without going through Congress needs to be stopped.

Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (lzxL6)

7 But how will women overseas get their abortions if Americans don't pay for them?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (8ZskC)

8 Government Unions, there you go with that shit...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (jsWA8)

9 Government unions immediately began screaming, and that's a real danger, because federal government unions are so popular with the American public.

Per that report, the freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.

Posted by: Ace at 03:19 PM

=======================

Well, let's hope that this stays in place until at least the decimation occurs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (/prE6)

10 My schadenboner, it knoweth no end.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (ul9CR)

11 I hate Presidents that actually attempt to do what they said they'd do. I am so used to being betrayed immediately that it just feels more natural to be stabbed in the back, but I'm willing to give President Trump a chance.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (wCEn4)

12 Hope he gets around to rescinding the lead ammo ban that Obama instated on the 19th for all federal lands.

Posted by: Pat at January 23, 2017 03:23 PM (pvwwD)

13 We're gonna get tired of all this Winning.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:23 PM (m9RuU)

14 Pen is for signing.
Phone is for tweeting.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 23, 2017 03:23 PM (Om16U)

15 he freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.

revenge, best served cold. like freezing cold.

Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:23 PM (8mO0Q)

16 6 I'd like to see Trump and the Republican Congress pass a "law" that no "laws" can be passed by a federal agency without Congressional approval, like a formal bill.

This idea that EPA bureaucrats can pass far reaching regulations without going through Congress needs to be stopped.
Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (lzxL6)

===================

The REINS act?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:23 PM (/prE6)

17 The government unions exist by executive order, they ought to walk carefully here.

Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2017 03:24 PM (Ja56Y)

18 Earlier today I signed three executive orders:
1. Withdraw the U.S. from the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP.)
2. Reinstate the Mexico City Policy dealing with non-governmental organizations (NGOs) and abortion access.
3. A complete freeze on federal workforce hiring - with the EXCEPTION of our United States Military.


The Fake News Media calls number 3 "some federal workers."

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2017 03:24 PM (ul9CR)

19 The retroactive thing is delicious.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 23, 2017 03:24 PM (TJCSB)

20 'A and B, but mostly A.'

Always a classic.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:24 PM (m9RuU)

21 Who is tired of winning yet?

Posted by: Mr pink at January 23, 2017 03:24 PM (t9CnJ)

22 >>>Per that report, the freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent
hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.<<<



Recovery Summer Hack Hiring Winter.

Posted by: President Donald Trump at January 23, 2017 03:24 PM (WidQN)

23 The journey of a thousand steps...

Here's hoping for 999 more steps.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 23, 2017 03:24 PM (8hICw)

24 Any minute now he's going to drop out and hand the presidency to Hillary.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 23, 2017 03:24 PM (cAnNx)

25 Also froze a bunch of regulations for review, I guess prior to rescinding the vast majority.

Posted by: joncelli, Tackling the Vital Issues at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (RD7QR)

26 5 yay! first time in the top 10!
Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (8mO0Q)

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Congratulations! Your prizes are an aluminum AOSHQ membership, a paddle ball game, one used TV remote, and this piece of string!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (kTF2Z)

27 Trump Signs Executive Orders: Withdraws from TPP, Ends Funding for
Overseas Health Services That Provide Abortions, Freezes Some Federal
Hiring
===


and then a light breakfast.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (toH8T)

28 But the big shocking UNPRECEDENTED news?

Spicer called on the NY Post first where before it was in the Constitution that the AP had to be called on first

Posted by: kbdabear at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (Ya7zs)

29 This idea that EPA bureaucrats can pass far reaching regulations without going through Congress needs to be stopped.


Not feasible. There is a legitimate role for regulation-making under statutory authority. The question is, what is properly within that realm versus what must be approved by the legislature? That's the hard part.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (8ZskC)

30 But... but... wasn't Trump a phony conservative? Shouldn't we have gone with a "real" candidate?

Posted by: RKae at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (QxDWi)

31 This man has energy.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Wishes You a Happy Trump Day! at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (hLRSq)

32 Wait till he announces that the US embassy is moving to Jerusalem; the screaming, gnashing of teeth and wailing from the left will know no end.

Posted by: IC at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (a0IVu)

33 17
The government unions exist by executive order, they ought to walk carefully here.

Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2017 03:24 PM (Ja56Y)

Originally they did, a JFK fuck up, but now I think there is a statute allowing them.
Not sure

Posted by: Pat at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (pvwwD)

34 I really hope he has a Black Friday moment where he fired every hack ig and political appointee Obama hired

Posted by: Mr pink at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (t9CnJ)

35 Any minute now he's going to drop out and hand the presidency to Hillary.
Posted by: Buzzion at January 23, 2017 03:24 PM (cAnNx)


Chemjeff, is that you?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (8ZskC)

36 Congratulations! Your prizes are an aluminum AOSHQ membership, a paddle ball game, one used TV remote, and this piece of string!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (kTF2Z)
---
Not the Pewter membership? Splurging now!

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (2mC6G)

37 Freezes Some Federal Hiring

======================

"Well, looks like there will be no hiring whatsoever in the United States. My gender studies professor told me that only the government hires people, and I believed xer."
-Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (/prE6)

38 Posted by: kbdabear at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (Ya7zs)

It's not a real Trumpening press conference until he calls on Ace first!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (wCEn4)

39 We can still shit in the hallway though, right?

Posted by: EPA at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (4ErVI)

40 More of this please! Stay focused and keep your campaign promises. All else will take care of itself.

Posted by: Very Irredeemably Undude at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (2X7pN)

41 >>That's the hard part.


The whole thing has been hard for over two months now!

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (m9RuU)

42 How about a law saying that all federal government hires and appointments in the last N months of a Presidency (N=1? N=3? N=6), regardless of the level of the hire, including Presidential appointees, are to be considered probationary in nature and may be dismissed, withdrawn or replaced by the new President.

(N probably needs to be 3 at least.)

Posted by: filbert at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (s5o+q)

43 Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (8mO0Q)

----------------------

Congratulations! Your prizes are an aluminum AOSHQ membership, a paddle ball game, one used TV remote, and this piece of string!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (kTF2Z)

Good thing you're getting the aluminum membership for free. There's only a slight benefit to it over the cardboard level. Certainly not worth the extra $20/month.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (8hICw)

44 Oh yeah. Those government unions must be polling all the way up in the... teens?

Fuck them sideways.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (xeeHA)

45 Per that report, the freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.

Suck it!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (wtvvX)

46 Has hot mommie one gone back to NYC yet?

Posted by: Pat at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (pvwwD)

47 Congratulations! Your prizes are an aluminum AOSHQ membership, a paddle ball game, one used TV remote, and this piece of string!
Posted by: Duke Lowell

...and I'll take this chair...

Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (8mO0Q)

48 I have been avoiding coverage of the PussyMarch but the radio just played Ashley Pufferfish's speech.
Ugh, apart from the gross content, her tone of voice just really really annoys me.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (Om16U)

49 So far, all constitutional and I like what I see. Trump is, for the first time in Republican History since at least Reagan, governing more to the right than he campaigned.

I don't buy his conversion to anti-abortion, but maybe its genuine. There's strategy to this, though. By cutting off funding to groups like Planned Parenthood for abortions worldwide, he's cutting down their donation money to leftist causes and Democrat politicians.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (39g3+)

50 Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (lzxL6)

Any settlement agreement that establishes a regulatory practice or procedure must be approved by Congress, not by the agency.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Wishes You a Happy Trump Day! at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (hLRSq)

51 >>the freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.


Oh, Hell yes!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (NOIQH)

52 1. Win.
2. Win.
3. Win.

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (HgMAr)

53 Per that report, the freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.


Oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please.


Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (mf5HN)

54 >>>I'd like to see Trump and the Republican Congress
pass a "law" that no "laws" can be passed by a federal agency without
Congressional approval, like a formal bill.

This idea that EPA bureaucrats can pass far reaching regulations without going through Congress needs to be stopped.

Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (lzxL6) ===================

The REINS act?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:23 PM (/prE6)<<<




I'd be shocked, shocked I tell ya!

Posted by: zombie Claude Rains at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (WidQN)

55 Not feasible. There is a legitimate role for regulation-making under statutory authority. The question is, what is properly within that realm versus what must be approved by the legislature? That's the hard part.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (8ZskC)

I missed this part in the Constitution. Care to point it out?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (8hICw)

56 With the Unobtainium Membership you get a baby's arm holding an apple.



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (ul9CR)

57 Ugh, apart from the gross content, her tone of voice just really really annoys me.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (Om16U)

----

She's a naaaaaaaaaasty woman.....

Posted by: fixerupper at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (8XRCm)

58 Per that report, the freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent
hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.

**

Tell them to think of it as Funemployment.

Posted by: Azathoth at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (J4nVH)

59 You can't just be giving string out like that, Duke.

Posted by: eleven at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (fYChk)

60 49
I don't buy his conversion to anti-abortion, but maybe its genuine. There's strategy to this, though. By cutting off funding to groups like Planned Parenthood for abortions worldwide, he's cutting down their donation money to leftist causes and Democrat politicians.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (39g3+)

======================

Maybe he doesn't care, and he'll do what he can for the pro-life movement purely because they are allies. You know, what coalitions tend to do.

"Except for amnesty. We'll always have amnesty."
-John McCain

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (/prE6)

61 Spicer called on the NY Post first where before it was in the Constitution that the AP had to be called on first

Posted by: kbdabear at January 23, 2017 03:25 PM (Ya7zs)
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Yeah! In the face of Madison's clear stipulation "All freedom of the press hinges upon calling the AP first." - Federalist II: The Return of Publius #180.

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (2mC6G)

62 She's a naaaaaaaaaasty woman.....
Posted by: fixerupper at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (8XRCm)

*facepunch*

oops, sorry, just a reflex

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (Om16U)

63 So? It's 3:30. What's up for the rest of the day?

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (BWL+E)

64 Per that report, the freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent
hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.

------

Sorry.

-><- THIS close.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 23, 2017 03:29 PM (8XRCm)

65 Freezes Some Federal Hiring

kiddie porn sites hardest hit

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2017 03:29 PM (HgMAr)

66 Can't wait for Spicer to call on "Milo from Breitbart" first.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2017 03:29 PM (ul9CR)

67 48 I have been avoiding coverage of the PussyMarch but the radio just played Ashley Pufferfish's speech.
Ugh, apart from the gross content, her tone of voice just really really annoys me.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (Om16U)

The other day I was accosted leaving a pizza place by a guy wearing Halloween makeup who was rambling on about Trump being secretly married to Hattie McDaniel. He made more sense than Ashley Judd.

Posted by: josephistan at January 23, 2017 03:29 PM (7HtZB)

68 61 Yeah! In the face of Madison's clear stipulation "All freedom of the press hinges upon calling the AP first." - Federalist II: The Return of Publius #180.
Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (2mC6G)

=====================

You have no idea how drunk I was when I wrote that...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:29 PM (/prE6)

69 I'd like to see Trump and the Republican Congress pass a "law" that no "laws" can be passed by a federal agency without Congressional approval, like a formal bill.

This idea that EPA bureaucrats can pass far reaching regulations without going through Congress needs to be stopped.
Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (lzxL6)

===================

The REINS act?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:23 PM (/prE6)



Technically, the Congressional Review Act is already A Thing but since Congress ignores it now, I'm all in on the REINS act and I'll even forgive the stupid stupid stupid acronym thing.

OR THEY COULD REPEAL THE APA ENTIRELY IS A THING THAT CONGRESS COULD DO!

*falls over flailing*

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:29 PM (mf5HN)

70 At first blush, these all appear to be well within his constitutional authority. Same with his other EO (that Ace didn't mention for some reason) regarding Obamacare.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (R+30W)

71
Not feasible. There is a legitimate role for regulation-making under statutory authority. The question is, what is properly within that realm versus what must be approved by the legislature? That's the hard part.
Posted by: Cicero

I would like to sunset regulations. They are my valid for the current Congress unless enrolled in law.

Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (Ja56Y)

72 I needed TPP.

Posted by: Super Beets Lady Who Talks Like A Robot at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (U5kaK)

73 "I have been avoiding coverage of the PussyMarch but the..."

AoSHQ Style Guide has been updated to include "Million Mish March".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (J+eG2)

74 DMV hardest hit.

Yup, mark it down. The Progs will deliberately slow down any public-facing Agency or Department. The Post Office (as if that were possible) and at the State level, the DMV is probably at the top of the list.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (0tfLf)

75
Trump is meeting with union leaders right now. Just heard one of the office libs say, Oh shit, if he can swing unions to his side the Dems are going to lose a big block of votes.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (OE2ur)

76 This idea that EPA bureaucrats can pass far reaching regulations without going through Congress needs to be stopped.


Not feasible. There is a legitimate role for regulation-making under statutory authority. The question is, what is properly within that realm versus what must be approved by the legislature? That's the hard part.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)




I'd be fine with the consequences of federal agencies not getting to make new laws, especially the EPA.

If there is not a consensus in the body Americans elected to Congress, maybe it really shouldn't be a law?

Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (lzxL6)

77 Winning. 24x7

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (pUDQf)

78 And when I say 3:30 I mean Standard Time, not the Ace-O-Nomitor.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (BWL+E)

79 >>>Per that report, the freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent
hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.<<<



I just freed you from job lock. You're welcome.

Posted by: Donald Trump, who IS President, and not Hillary Clinton who never ever will be at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (WidQN)

80 I will cherish this string.

She's a naaaaaaaaaasty woman.....
Votermom

Did it sound like she was reciting some awful poem, written by Saphire or some such? that's what it sounds like to me.

Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (8mO0Q)

81 Next week:

THE PHONE

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (gBCPl)

82 Per that report, the freeze might be retroactive for Obama's recent hires who were hired but who have not actually begun working yet.

They must also report to The Barrel.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (wtvvX)

83 She's a naaaaaaaaaasty woman.....

Posted by: fixerupper at January 23, 2017 03:28 PM (8XRCm)


Ashley Judd v. Melania Trump

Which one would you choose as a role model for your daughters?

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (wCEn4)

84 I don't buy his conversion to anti-abortion, but maybe its genuine. There's strategy to this, though. By cutting off funding to groups like Planned Parenthood for abortions worldwide, he's cutting down their donation money to leftist causes and Democrat politicians.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (39g3+)

The Wimmin's March yesterday probably made him want to do something to really piss the harpies off.

I've said this before - by screaming and hissing at him constantly, the left is probably pushing a nonideologue who is not notably socially conservative more conservative than he otherwise would be. Because "f you."

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (ZM2xo)

85 The way that ban on the abortion thing was originally worded it wasn't a ban on funding of abortions. There was a Planned Parenthood - International that provided funding to PP in the US. And that is what was bouncing back and forth every time the WH changed hands. RR originally prohibited them funding out PP and then the Democrats released and it has been back and forth every since.


As for him getting us out of TPP remember that all the Republicans but one voted for that POS. But the COC wanted it. It was a POS and I am glad he killed it. Every trade deal we have signed in the past 50 years has been a one way street and I hope to see that change.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (mpXpK)

86 I'm neutral on abortion and I want Planned Parenthood defunded immediately.

They broke the law. Repeatedly.

You don't have to frame it as abortions. It's a matter of law and order and they've committed felonies. Taxpayer funds will not be going to fund groups that have committed crimes.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (4ErVI)

87 So the fabricator of the Iran capitulation, Ben Rhodes, doesn't get to sit on the Holocaust board, or whatever it was that Obama appointed him to?

Sweet. Now he'll have to go find a real job. Obama will need a fiction writer for his next "autobiography" (i.e. presidential memoirs). Maybe Ben should apply for that job.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (riF5p)

88 I like Mish Mash March for a name.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (tOcW/)

89 75
Trump is meeting with union leaders right now. Just heard one of the office libs say, Oh shit, if he can swing unions to his side the Dems are going to lose a big block of votes.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (OE2ur)

They'll always have psycho-harpies dressed like vaginas.

Posted by: josephistan at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (7HtZB)

90 69 Technically, the Congressional Review Act is already A Thing but since Congress ignores it now, I'm all in on the REINS act and I'll even forgive the stupid stupid stupid acronym thing.

OR THEY COULD REPEAL THE APA ENTIRELY IS A THING THAT CONGRESS COULD DO!

*falls over flailing*
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:29 PM (mf5HN)

==================

I guess, unless Congress wants its power back, there's nothing that we can do to force that to happen.

"It's just so much easier to get re-elected if I don't vote on really unpopular things but they still become law through shoddy law writing and an out of control bureaucracy. It's worth it, right?"
-Backbencher Congresscritter, who's been in D.C. since before telephones were a thing

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (/prE6)

91 Did it sound like she was reciting some awful poem, written by Saphire or some such? that's what it sounds like to me.
Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (8mO0Q)

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Youre on your own... I aint answering any questions.

I think votermom broke my nose.....

Posted by: fixerupper at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (8XRCm)

92 9. Well, let's hope that this stays in place until at least the decimation occurs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (/prE6)
***
I want that to happen, and I want it to be done in the traditional style - guys 1 through 9 have to beat guy #10 to death.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (lutOX)

93 When do we get the first comment here whingin about how bad the hiring freeze is and how it will hurt those good federal workers? Before 150? Before 300?

Posted by: Buzzion at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (cAnNx)

94 I don't know if the TPP is, on balance, good or bad. I do know, however, that despite opposition to it from Bernie Sanders, 95% of the lefties I'm seeing are talking about how bad Trump is for doing this. Because they're dumbshits.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (xN1DB)

95 next: ban federal employees and contractors from forming or joining or belonging to a union.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (Undvz)

96 I'd like to see Trump and the Republican Congress pass a "law" that no "laws" can be passed by a federal agency without Congressional approval, like a formal bill.

This idea that EPA bureaucrats can pass far reaching regulations without going through Congress needs to be stopped.
Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (lzxL6)

That wouldn't work in reality. The reason there are regulatory agencies is because Congress has passed a law dictating this or that and now you have to have an administration to actually implement and manage the law. What happens because it is predictable and natural , is that agencies take their job seriously, because now that they have been given power to administer and they take that eventually to mean they can make new rules in order to administer. And it mushrooms out of control.

What needs to happen is either repeal of laws, or clarification with directives of limitations on the administration of individual laws. And heads of these agencies who are rewarded for limiting their minions work rather than rewarding how many new rules they can come up with.

Posted by: Jen at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (+dgPH)

97 Oh shit, if he can swing unions to his side the Dems are going to lose a big block of votes.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (OE2ur)


Local union bigshot has already proclaimed he likes Trump's infrastructure plans. AND that the donks have focussed on special interests at the expense of Blue Collar Dude.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (nNdYv)

98 As for the federal employee unions, Trump needs to use his pen and phone to make them illegal as they were before JFK and congress got involved.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (mpXpK)

99 >>I don't buy his conversion to anti-abortion, but maybe its genuine.

Even if Trump is still pro-choice, it's clear that like most normal people he is absolutely disgusted with what Planned Parenthood/abortion activists promote re: late-term abortion. I don't need a 100% pro-life POTUS, just someone who can differentiate between reasonable and ghoulish infanticide, between availability of birth control vs. government mandated coverage.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (NOIQH)

100 93 When do we get the first comment here whingin about how bad the hiring freeze is and how it will hurt those good federal workers? Before 150? Before 300?
Posted by: Buzzion at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (cAnNx)

Here? If it even happens, it'll be after 500.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (8hICw)

101 71 I would like to sunset regulations. They are my valid for the current Congress unless enrolled in law.
Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (Ja56Y)

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I'd love a Constitutional Amendment that enforced a sunset provision on every law and forbade omnibus bills that re-passed everything.

"But Congress wouldn't do anything but re-pass laws!"
-The Left

"No shit."
-Me

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (/prE6)

102 Its a good start.
BTW it isn't fit for man nor beast outside here, heavy rain, very windy and 35 f

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (0AwCy)

103 Oh, yeah! Well, wait until we all quit! We'll show YOU! WE'LL SHOW EVERYBODY!!!

Posted by: Your Indispensible Government Bureaucrat at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (qJhUV)

104 and what Dack said.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 23, 2017 03:34 PM (Undvz)

105 I saw a lovely bulldyke couple sporting Nasty Women bumper stickers the other day. Maybe I ma get a NattyBo sticker now

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 23, 2017 03:34 PM (gBCPl)

106 He is already the most conservative that I can recall. Poppy Bush-Obama.

And it's Monday.

Posted by: Pepe at January 23, 2017 03:34 PM (XNdCd)

107 The part about having a retroactive freeze has occured before. I know someone who, a few decades ago, had the employment acceptance papers in hand with a report date after the change in administration. Rescinded. No job. Was not political appointee. Such a freeze is possible.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at January 23, 2017 03:34 PM (V+03K)

108 He already signed an EO neutering the Obamacare mandate, right?

Posted by: 16 Paranoia Filled Days Later at January 23, 2017 03:34 PM (Halhc)

109 The pen is mightier than the sword..but not as much fun to stab people with.

Posted by: Trumpasaurus Rex at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM (uhftQ)

110 ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???

Posted by: T (channeling Maximus Decimus Meridius) at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM (IKdzI)

111 Did we ever know all that was in TPP?

Thought that was one of the tings, like the Iran Deal, that was kept super-secret by Obama, that he was negotiating this without input from Congress, planning to just drop it on 'em for a quickie up/down vote.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM (NOIQH)

112 80 I will cherish this string.

She's a naaaaaaaaaasty woman.....
Votermom

Did it sound like she was reciting some awful poem, written by Saphire or some such? that's what it sounds like to me.
Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM (8mO0Q)

Yes she was- it was a poem by a 16yo girl. I kid you not.

Posted by: josephistan at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM (7HtZB)

113 It's like we woke up and an adult was back in charge.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM (pUDQf)

114 49 So far, all constitutional and I like what I see. Trump is, for the first time in Republican History since at least Reagan, governing more to the right than he campaigned.

I don't buy his conversion to anti-abortion, but maybe its genuine. There's strategy to this, though. By cutting off funding to groups like Planned Parenthood for abortions worldwide, he's cutting down their donation money to leftist causes and Democrat politicians.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:27 PM (39g3+)

++++

If Reagan - who as Governor of California signed the law legalizing abortion in that state - can credibly change his mind on abortion, I see no reason to doubt Trump.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM (R+30W)

115 I'd love a Constitutional Amendment that enforced a sunset provision on every law and forbade omnibus bills that re-passed everything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (/prE6)
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To really keep em busy: Sunset Period: 1 weekday/weekend

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM (2mC6G)

116 Also, if I may add: bombed the living crap out of ISIS positions in Syrian, within hours of Mad Dog Mattis being sworn in.

"Did you engage the enemy?"

"I fvcking vaporized the enemy... sir."

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (iIzG7)

117 33 Originally they did, a JFK fuck up, but now I think there is a statute allowing them.
Not sure


Posted by: Pat at January 23, 2017 03:26 PM (pvwwD)

Originally it was an illegal executive order by Kennedy but within a few months the all Democrat Congress passed a law making it legal.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (mpXpK)

118 Local union bigshot has already proclaimed he likes Trump's infrastructure plans. AND that the donks have focussed on special interests at the expense of Blue Collar Dude.

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (nNdYv)




From what I saw Trump is really making a push for them. Said something like you'll be building new plants and factories for the new jobs that will be created for your members.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (OE2ur)

119 >>I will cherish this string.



Just don't pull on it.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Taxed Tampon at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (m9RuU)

120 "What needs to happen is either repeal of laws, or clarification with directives of limitations on the administration of individual laws."

There are SCOTUS decisions that give nearly unbridled authority to agencies when creating and applying rules to implement acts of Congress. Big problem. It can also be hard to get standing to challenge this. It's weird that the Sierra Club can get standing while a State sometimes can't

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (SIY7D)

121 https://tinyurl.com/zpf65hy


BREAKING: Laura Ingraham To Run Against Tim Kaine

supposedly is how I would say it. But with securing those website names, looks pretty sure

491 https://tinyurl.com/hwj9beh



Iran Caught Importing Missile Technology


from last thread

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (y3aQB)

122 If Reagan - who as Governor of California signed the law legalizing abortion in that state - can credibly change his mind on abortion, I see no reason to doubt Trump.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM (R+30W)
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Also No-fault-divorce-Reagan, champion of "Family Values".

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (2mC6G)

123 I want a Super Majority required to enact ANY new legislation ... but only a Simple Majority to repeal.

And a pony.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 23, 2017 03:37 PM (9uYWN)

124 "But Congress wouldn't do anything but re-pass laws!"
-The Left

"No shit."
-Me
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (/prE6)
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"But Congress won't get anything DONE!?" has never been a compelling argument for me.

Good. At some point you have to have enough laws, don't you?

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:37 PM (xeeHA)

125 115 To really keep em busy: Sunset Period: 1 weekday/weekend
Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM (2mC6G)

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Realistically, I'd think something like 10 years. Maybe 20 (a generation).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:37 PM (/prE6)

126 Oh, yeah! Well, wait until we all quit! We'll show YOU! WE'LL SHOW EVERYBODY!!!
Posted by: Your Indispensible Government Bureaucrat at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (qJhUV)



Between the bureaucrats walking off and the celebrities going on strike, America is promising to be a gray and inhospitable land under Trump.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:37 PM (8ZskC)

127 I would like to sunset regulations. They are my valid for the current Congress unless enrolled in law.

Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (Ja56Y)


This is a perfect piece of legislation, and coupled with a sunset (aka term-limits) provision for all elected and appointed Federal offices would go a long way towards being very positive effects on a system that wants to become corrupt.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2017 03:37 PM (wCEn4)

128 >>>AoSHQ Style Guide has been updated to include "Million Mish March".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 23, 2017 03:30 PM (J+eG2)<<<

Lots of mishes out there "demenstruating".

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at January 23, 2017 03:37 PM (WidQN)

129 Did it sound like she was reciting some awful poem, written by Saphire or some such? that's what it sounds like to me.

Yeah but a free-form one out of her mare's nest of a brain.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:37 PM (39g3+)

130 BREAKING: Laura Ingraham To Run Against Tim Kaine

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (y3aQB)
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So Loon vs. Not a loon. She should get ahead by 50 points.

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:37 PM (2mC6G)

131 >>Iran Caught Importing Missile Technology


Tough days ahead for Iran.

The US will no longer cover for them and Russia doesn't need them, anymore.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (m9RuU)

132 It's just unbelievably frustrating when you're constantly told: "It's not big enough. It's not good enough."

Can confirm this.

Posted by: Pajama Boy at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (10LGw)

133 I know he said, "except for the military". But here at DHS, some high level muckety mucks are saying security agencies are exempt.

Anyone know how the exact wording of the memorandum he signed reads?

Posted by: Log Cabin at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (Ve2ZO)

134 From what I saw Trump is really making a push for them. Said something like you'll be building new plants and factories for the new jobs that will be created for your members.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (OE2ur)

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Trump steals organized labor. I wonder if the progs have even realized this.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (8XRCm)

135 Yes she was- it was a poem by a 16yo girl. I kid you not.
Posted by: josephistan at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM
*****
That makes it even worse than I already thought it was.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (Rsi2C)

136 121 https://tinyurl.com/zpf65hy


BREAKING: Laura Ingraham To Run Against Tim Kaine

supposedly is how I would say it. But with securing those website names, looks pretty sure

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (y3aQB)

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I can't keep most of these personalities straight. Is Ingraham solid conservative or not?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (/prE6)

137 "but congress wont get anything done"

we have to prove we can govern. --Paul Ryan and Mitch McTurtle

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (Undvz)

138 From what I saw Trump is really making a push for them. Said something like you'll be building new plants and factories for the new jobs that will be created for your members.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (OE2ur)


Trump I think actually likes and respects "real," blue-collar unions. White-collar unions like SEIU and government employee unions, probably not so much.

Posted by: filbert at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (s5o+q)

139 I'd love a Constitutional Amendment that enforced a sunset provision on every law and forbade omnibus bills that re-passed everything.

"But Congress wouldn't do anything but re-pass laws!"
-The Left

"No shit."
-Me
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:33 PM (/prE6)



Ahem.

I want the RTFBYMFMF amendment.

The text of the amendment is as follows:

Prior to vote by the Senate and the House of Representatives, the final language of all bills shall be read in its entirety from the floor of the Senate or House chamber, respectively, by a human being reading the bill at a normal rate of speech. No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

Should the Senate and House pass bills with differing language, the compromise bill that is returned from the Senate and House committee, respectively, shall be read in its entirety from the floor of the Senate or House chamber, respectively, by a human being reading the bill at a normal rate of speech. No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

The above provision shall also apply to any and all amendments to bills.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (mf5HN)

140 What needs to happen is either repeal of laws, or clarification with directives of limitations on the administration of individual laws. And heads of these agencies who are rewarded for limiting their minions work rather than rewarding how many new rules they can come up with.
Posted by: Jen

_______


The idea that the EPA can just say increase CAFE requirements on cars to where it basically means you outlaw the internal combustion engine and have a backdoor cap and trade system is the sort of thing I'm talking about.

That would be a good example where I want the EPA to make recommendations but Congress has to vote on it.

Same with say carbon dioxide regulation.

I'm really not worried about what happens if it gets a lot harder for the federal government to pass new laws and regulations.

I'm open to other ways, but something needs to be done because it's out of control.

Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (lzxL6)

141 Did it sound like she was reciting some awful poem, written by Saphire or some such? that's what it sounds like to me.

Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:31 PM

It was written by a 19 year old Dunkin Donut worker per a Daily Mail story with lots of the author's selfies. I'm not kidding.

Posted by: Lester at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (8USec)

142
MISH MASH I WAS GRABBIN HER ASS

LONG ABOUT SATURDAY NIIIIIIGHT.

Posted by: Jerry Lee Lewis at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (8XRCm)

143 I want a Super Majority required to enact ANY new legislation ... but only a Simple Majority to repeal.

And a pony.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 23, 2017 03:37 PM (9uYWN)
[

Heinlein in "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" proposed something much like that (he didn't have the pony clause in there though)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2017 03:40 PM (wCEn4)

144
I can't keep most of these personalities straight. Is Ingraham solid conservative or not?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (/prE6)


Solid

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 23, 2017 03:40 PM (lKyWE)

145 How long before he tells Iran to piss up a rope?

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at January 23, 2017 03:40 PM (IGwNG)

146 The idea that the EPA can just say increase CAFE requirements on cars to where it basically means you outlaw the internal combustion engine and have a backdoor cap and trade system is the sort of thing I'm talking about.

That would be a good example where I want the EPA to make recommendations but Congress has to vote on it.

Same with say carbon dioxide regulation.

I'm really not worried about what happens if it gets a lot harder for the federal government to pass new laws and regulations.

I'm open to other ways, but something needs to be done because it's out of control.
Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (lzxL6)

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I wish he would shitcan all the Lead Safe Remodeling Bullshit.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 23, 2017 03:40 PM (8XRCm)

147 a poem by a 16 year old girl? What crap emo bands are the kids citing now? it was the Cure and then NIN when I was growing up, who were already overrated, so I can only imagine the suck nowadays

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (Undvz)

148 139 Ahem.

I want the RTFBYMFMF amendment.

The text of the amendment is as follows:

Prior to vote by the Senate and the House of Representatives, the final language of all bills shall be read in its entirety from the floor of the Senate or House chamber, respectively, by a human being reading the bill at a normal rate of speech. No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

Should the Senate and House pass bills with differing language, the compromise bill that is returned from the Senate and House committee, respectively, shall be read in its entirety from the floor of the Senate or House chamber, respectively, by a human being reading the bill at a normal rate of speech. No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

The above provision shall also apply to any and all amendments to bills.
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (mf5HN)

======================

"But Congress won't get anything done!"
-The Left

"Then write shorter bills."
-Me

"Then how are we going to sneak terrible policy past the people?"
-The Left

"No shit."
-Me

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (/prE6)

149 Was wondering listening to Mish March clips on the long way home if all those women speakers were trying to have no men in their lives in the future.

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (0AwCy)

150 >>I want the RTFBYMFMF amendment.

That would be excellent!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (NOIQH)

151 Did it sound like she was reciting some awful poem, written by Saphire or some such? that's what it sounds like to me.

Yeah but a free-form one out of her mare's nest of a brain

+++

Ought to do an MST3K style dub with people in berets snapping and saying shit like Wild Daddio dig it

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (gBCPl)

152 Between the bureaucrats walking off and the celebrities going on strike, America is promising to be a gray and inhospitable land under Trump.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:37 PM (8ZskC)


"Dark."

(Which somehow, did you notice, suddenly became a non-racist and totally acceptable characterization, in accordance with the "but it's okay when WE do it" rule.)

Posted by: filbert at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (s5o+q)

153 Kaine looks like a guy you hide your children from.

Posted by: Trumpasaurus Rex at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (m3iiU)

154 122 If Reagan - who as Governor of California signed the law legalizing abortion in that state - can credibly change his mind on abortion, I see no reason to doubt Trump.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 23, 2017 03:35 PM (R+30W)
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Also No-fault-divorce-Reagan, champion of "Family Values".
Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (2mC6G)

Yep. That has done more to destroy parents and children than anything. It's on par with The Great Society (maybe worse).

Posted by: Pepe at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (XNdCd)

155 Did it sound like she was reciting some awful poem, written by Saphire or some such? )

Yes she was- it was a poem by a 16yo girl. I kid you not.
Posted by: josephistan

I knew I recognized that stupid self-important leftist poem cadence. HA!

Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (8mO0Q)

156 144
Solid
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 23, 2017 03:40 PM (lKyWE)

====================

Thanks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (/prE6)

157 Prior to vote by the Senate and the House of Representatives, the final language of all bills shall be read in its entirety from the floor of the Senate or House chamber, respectively, by a human being reading the bill at a normal rate of speech. No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

Should the Senate and House pass bills with differing language, the compromise bill that is returned from the Senate and House committee, respectively, shall be read in its entirety from the floor of the Senate or House chamber, respectively, by a human being reading the bill at a normal rate of speech. No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

The above provision shall also apply to any and all amendments to bills.
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (mf5HN)
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This certainly would make the ACA impossible to pass. It would take years to read that.

Which, I am aware, is entirely the point.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (xeeHA)

158 Prior to vote by the Senate and the House of Representatives, the final language of all bills shall be read in its entirety from the floor of the Senate or House chamber, respectively, by a human being reading the bill at a normal rate of speech. No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

The above provision shall also apply to any and all amendments to bills.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (mf5HN)
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Well, that would slow things down a bit for 2700 page bills, but mostly likely you'd see a lot of aides in seats with the reps tapping them on the shoulder about the last page, to get ready for the vote.

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:42 PM (2mC6G)

159 Meanwhile, the Communist "News" Network is hosting a town hall Wednesday night hosted by actual communist Van Jones, and noted intellect Whoopi Goldberg. I believe they're calling it "The Messy Truth" or something.

That chicken, CNN, keep doing what you do.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2017 03:42 PM (PY9jH)

160 She did the Mish

She did the Monster Mish

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2017 03:42 PM (ul9CR)

161 It would be fun to see federal government employees protesting the executive order. President Trump could order them back to work and fire them if they didn't.
It would be just like old times.

Posted by: Tucker Carlson's Book of Untruths at January 23, 2017 03:42 PM (fxE3Q)

162 ***Posted by: Jerry Lee Lewis at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (8XRCm)


Zombie Bobby Darrin slowly turns....

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at January 23, 2017 03:42 PM (IGwNG)

163 Canz I post now? Was having issues yesterday posting from my laptop. Phone, no problem.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 23, 2017 03:42 PM (jA/+t)

164 Agencies need some power to specify how they will carry out laws passed by the legislative department, and that power cannot be controlled by congress or judges, because of separation of power. They just need to make sure they are constitutional, reasonable, and wise.

That last part you cannot legislate. No matter how many laws you pass or rules you put up, an unreasonable group of fools will be unconstitutional until stopped by the courts and/or the voters.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:42 PM (39g3+)

165 I know he said, "except for the military". But here at DHS, some high level muckety mucks are saying security agencies are exempt.

Anyone know how the exact wording of the memorandum he signed reads?
Posted by: Log Cabin at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (Ve2ZO)



IIRS, the hiring freeze does not apply to intelligence agencies and the military.

I can't recall if it's part of REINS or a separate bill but there's a push to eliminate Chevron deference and it's about damn time that Congress woke and remembered that, hey, we control the vertical on what the Federal Courts do.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:42 PM (mf5HN)

166 Yay! I canz post now!!!!


I got nuthin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 23, 2017 03:43 PM (jA/+t)

167 158 Well, that would slow things down a bit for 2700 page bills, but mostly likely you'd see a lot of aides in seats with the reps tapping them on the shoulder about the last page, to get ready for the vote.
Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:42 PM (2mC6G)

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It would be less, "Oh, we have to pay attention?" and more, "Oh, we can't get anything done for the next four weeks while this bill is read."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:43 PM (/prE6)

168 Can one of the cobs fix that top link on the sidebar so we can embiggen it?

Thank you

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2017 03:43 PM (nNdYv)

169 vanjones and whoopi tagteaming the chicken. I don't envy that poor bird

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 23, 2017 03:43 PM (Undvz)

170 I'm a Na-a-a-asty Woman! I don't wipe...or shower...

Posted by: Nasty Woman at January 23, 2017 03:43 PM (2mC6G)

171 105 I saw a lovely bulldyke couple sporting Nasty Women bumper stickers the other day"

Truth in advertising.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 23, 2017 03:44 PM (ZM2xo)

172

Ahem.

I want the RTFBYMFMF amendment.

The text of the amendment is as follows:

Prior to vote by the Senate and the House of Representatives, the final language of all bills shall be read in its entirety from the floor of the Senate or House chamber, respectively, by a human being reading the bill at a normal rate of speech. No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

Should the Senate and House pass bills with differing language, the compromise bill that is returned from the Senate and House committee, respectively, shall be read in its entirety from the floor of the Senate or House chamber, respectively, by a human being reading the bill at a normal rate of speech. No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

The above provision shall also apply to any and all amendments to bills.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (mf5HN)

++++

Not a problem. I would note that there is nothing in the text that requires anyone to actually listen to the reading or even be present. So, let's do this thing!

Posted by: The Esteemed Gentleman from Wherever at January 23, 2017 03:44 PM (R+30W)

173 What needs to happen is either repeal of laws, or clarification with directives of limitations on the administration of individual laws.

What needs to happen is they submit all of their damn proposed new rules to Congress for approval before enactment.

Want your new shit to pass ? Keep it short and simple.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 23, 2017 03:44 PM (9uYWN)

174 Step 1: We should start an archive of Moron Good Ideas, like proposed legislation.

Step 2: ???

Step 3: We CHANGE THE WORLD!

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:44 PM (xeeHA)

175 Again, you never know if you can trust the news when they report on what Trump is "planning" to do (remember all the reports on cabinet picks?) but this sounds tasty:

President Donald Trump's reported plan to gut federal spending by $10.5 trillion over the next decade includes eliminating three iconic agencies defended as cultural mainstays by many Democrats.

The next administration is working on plans to eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, and privatize the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, The Hill reported Thursday.


http://dailysignal.com/2017/01/23/trump-targets-three-agencies-with-ambitious-budget-cuts/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (39g3+)

176 Trick to Infrastructure is to cut a deal with unions to not require Prevailing Wages, so that projects don't become boondoggles. Real private sector shit with deadlines and penalties for overruns. Everyone can win, labor most of all.

But you'd need someone who was a private sector builder to make this happen. No one in government knows how to do this, least of all anyone who could be ever be elected President, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (SIY7D)

177
Kaine looks like a guy you hide your children from.
Posted by: Trumpasaurus Rex at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (m3iiU)


And beloved family pets

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (lKyWE)

178 Re: I'd like to see Trump and the Republican Congress pass a "law" that no "laws" can be passed by a federal agency without Congressional approval, like a formal bill.

This idea that EPA bureaucrats can pass far reaching regulations without going through Congress needs to be stopped.

Maritime, its called Administrative Law when agencies put out regs. During the primary, Marco Rubio came to NH for a campaign stop. I was able to elbow my way into the crowd and ask him a question about what he would do about administrative laws, since the agencies have almost completely negated the "need" for congress if they make their own laws.

Well his answer lost him my vote. Forever. His response was little more than "so what"? When pressed for clarification, he basically said that was the way it was and you can't change it. This is after listening to twenty minutes of his blah blah about doing more with government than just "changing things around the margins".

Posted by: squeakywheel at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (fce+O)

179 Canz I post now? Was having issues yesterday posting from my laptop. Phone, no problem.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 23, 2017 03:42 PM (jA/+t)


I've been getting "this service is not available" messages sporadically for the past week or so.

I figure it's just pixy's servers getting hammered, either with refreshes or with naughty people.

Well, OTHER naughty people.

Posted by: filbert at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (s5o+q)

180
Should the Senate and House pass bills with
differing language, the compromise bill that is returned from the Senate
and House committee, respectively, shall be read in its entirety from
the floor of the Senate or House chamber, respectively, by a human being
reading the bill at a normal rate of speech. No vote shall be taken
until the full text of the bill is read.



The above provision shall also apply to any and all amendments to bills.



Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (mf5HN)

Well that's just dumb. I was assured the only way to know what's in the bill is to pass it first. Duh.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (pUDQf)

181 [Judd's spiel) written by a 19 year old Dunkin Donut worker per a Daily Mail story with lots of the author's selfies. I'm not kidding.
Posted by: Lester

that's PERFECT....(picture Lucy screaming so loud charlie brown flips away backward)

that's good for a belly laugh.

Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (8mO0Q)

182
I knew I recognized that stupid self-important leftist poem cadence. HA

+++

They don't know poetry. But they are the only ones that can get grants for it

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (gBCPl)

183 144
I can't keep most of these personalities straight. Is Ingraham solid conservative or not?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:38 PM (/prE6)


Solid
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 23, 2017 03:40 PM (lKyWE)

Until she disagrees with something and is immediately turned into a low life establishment lackey.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (/BXzQ)

184
I liked the part where the article said, 'if we can not hire people to do the work, then we will just have to subcontract it.'

Paraphrasing a little bit.

Posted by: Sam Cold Hans at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (rG+5O)

185 Kaine's the guy the circus management has to protect the CLOWNS from.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (Undvz)

186 120 There are SCOTUS decisions that give nearly
unbridled authority to agencies when creating and applying rules to
implement acts of Congress. Big problem. It can also be hard to get
standing to challenge this. It's weird that the Sierra Club can get
standing while a State sometimes can't

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 23, 2017 03:36 PM (SIY7D)

Those ruling were in cases where the law from congress that was passed clearly allowed the EPA to issue regulations in the area specified. There have also been rulings by the court more recently during the Choom reign where they slapped his pen and phone down because they exceeded the leeway given by congress to the EPA.

Congress has delegated more and more power to the the unelected bureaucrats in the regulatory agencies and that is what needs to stop.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (mpXpK)

187
6
I'd like to see Trump and the Republican Congress pass a "law" that no
"laws" can be passed by a federal agency without Congressional approval,
like a formal bill.



This idea that EPA bureaucrats can pass far reaching regulations without going through Congress needs to be stopped.

Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:22 PM (lzxL6)
Maritime, "law" you have a funny way of spelling Amendment to the Constitution.

Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (vI+F1)

188 >>>Kaine looks like a guy you hide your children from.

Posted by: Trumpasaurus Rex at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (m3iiU)<<<

So you're saying I should run in Nevada?

Posted by: Tim "Kreeper" Kaine at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (WidQN)

189 Michael Calderone on Twitter:

Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.



Posted by: Azathoth at January 23, 2017 03:46 PM (J4nVH)

190 If the movie "It" is ever remade, Kaine could easily be cast as the evil clown.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2017 03:46 PM (PY9jH)

191 Step 1: We should start an archive of Moron Good Ideas, like proposed legislation.

Step 2: ???

Step 3: We CHANGE THE WORLD!
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:44 PM (xeeHA)

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I want to sell a line of exploding Muslim Prayer Rugs.



Prophets would be thru the roof!!!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at January 23, 2017 03:46 PM (8XRCm)

192 Again, you never know if you can trust the news when they report on what Trump is "planning" to do (remember all the reports on cabinet picks?) but this sounds tasty:

President Donald Trump's reported plan to gut federal spending by $10.5 trillion over the next decade includes eliminating three iconic agencies defended as cultural mainstays by many Democrats.

The next administration is working on plans to eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, and privatize the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, The Hill reported Thursday.

http://dailysignal.com/2017/01/23/trump-targets-three-agencies-with-ambitious-budget-cuts/
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (39g3+)


That's not gutting.

At best, it's a light trim around the edges. Not even a "haircut."

Posted by: filbert at January 23, 2017 03:46 PM (s5o+q)

193 I wish Ingraham wasn't running in VA. You know all the idiots in Newport News, Richmond and Fairfax County will vote D no matter what and give the seat to Kaine.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (ZM2xo)

194 Ted Cruz going soft? See HA

Posted by: Pat at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (SGa2t)

195 >> [Judd's spiel) written by a 19 year old Dunkin Donut worker per a Daily Mail story with lots of the author's selfies.



On second thought, you can keep the Jelly Donut and I'll just have the Coffee to go.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (m9RuU)

196 If the movie "It" is ever remade, Kaine could easily be cast as the evil clown.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2017 03:46 PM (PY9jH)


Chances are he already has the costume.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (mBnZE)

197 My schadenboner, it knoweth no end.

If a spherical model of the universe is true...

...look out behind you.

Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (iKu60)

198 The new boss...not same as the old boss.

Hallelujah!

Posted by: The Who at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (xB7fY)

199 The next administration is working on plans to eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, and privatize the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, The Hill reported Thursday.

No government-funded art
No government-funded "humanities"
No government-funded kids' puppet programs

Not the America where I want to live.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (8ZskC)

200 Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


Oh, good. Said no one.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (ul9CR)

201 Kaine looks like a guy you hide your children from.

Posted by: Trumpasaurus Rex at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (m3iiU)


It is easy to believe that Kaine drives a nondescript windowless van that is frequently seen near playgrounds!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (wCEn4)

202 Anyone else think Gasparino sounds and looks like a spastic rectum?

Posted by: Super Beats For Better Mental Health at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (U5kaK)

203 The idea that the EPA can just say increase CAFE requirements on cars to where it basically means you outlaw the internal combustion engine and have a backdoor cap and trade system is the sort of thing I'm talking about.

That would be a good example where I want the EPA to make recommendations but Congress has to vote on it.

Same with say carbon dioxide regulation.

I'm really not worried about what happens if it gets a lot harder for the federal government to pass new laws and regulations.

I'm open to other ways, but something needs to be done because it's out of control.
Posted by: Maritime at January 23, 2017 03:39 PM (lzxL6

Maritime, I understand what you are saying and agree we need to limit it.
The real problem with what you are suggesting is that you are asking people (Congress) who don't know anything about internal combustion engines to vote on standards. Congress people don't possess some magical spaghetti strainer of knowledge that they put on their head and they become experts on fuel injection. You would have to have them all receive a full education on the issue by unbiased sources( which is what lobbyists are used for, each side sends their lobbyist expert to an agency or a congress person to "educate" them) and then they finally vote. Absolutely zero would get done on the issue, which is fine until it's something very necessary or beneficial.

Right now, regulatory agencies send out new rules for public comment 60 days prior to making them a rule. They then listen to public comment, listen to lobbyists and groups impacted and then make their decision. At the regulatory agency is where limits need to be placed, it makes the most sense.

Posted by: Jen at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (+dgPH)

204 @200

Just what they need a ginger token.

Posted by: Pat at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (SGa2t)

205 So you're saying I should run in Nevada?

Posted by: Tim "Kreeper" Kaine at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (WidQN)
---
They just legalized child prostitution in California, though.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (2mC6G)

206

So,, am I president yet?

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (HSmrB)

207 "I've been getting "this service is not available" messages sporadically for the past week or so. "

Yeh...that's a new one for me too.

And about the same time frame as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (J+eG2)

208 . No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

The above provision shall also apply to any and all amendments to bills.
Posted by: alexthechick

Why a law? Can't any Senator with a set do this?

Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (Ja56Y)

209 Little boy
With your nose pressed up against the bakery window
There are no jelly doughnuts for you today
Only death

(snap snap snap)

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (ul9CR)

210 Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


Oh, good. Said no one.


I don't know. Didn't she have some nice sweater-Harfs?

Posted by: gewa76 at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (B6OKy)

211 How about an Executive Order that mandates that all H1-B work visas come with a handful of deodorant vouchers?

Posted by: Dave (in MA) at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (z+cd2)

212 Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.

Marie! You stabbed me in the back!

Posted by: Jen Psaki: Pole Dancer for Hire at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (qJhUV)

213 Harf is the one with the puffy ,red sex face right?

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (r/0kC)

214 I know he said, "except for the military". But here at DHS, some high level muckety mucks are saying security agencies are exempt.

Anything involving military, public safety, and intel is not frozen. The rest are locked and it looks seriously like he's going to actually work to wipe out some federal agencies. Unlikely to get past congress, but at least he may try.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (39g3+)

215 That's not gutting.

At best, it's a light trim around the edges. Not even a "haircut."
Posted by: filbert at January 23, 2017 03:46 PM (s5o+q)
--------

At first I read "3 agencies" and thought, OOH, Education, Energy and Labor.

But then I read on.

Yeah, not even a real dent, those three.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (xeeHA)

216 93 When do we get the first comment here whingin about how bad the hiring freeze is and how it will hurt those good federal workers? Before 150? Before 300?
Posted by: Buzzion at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (cAnNx)
------------------------------------
I wouldn't expect anyone here to have a problem with it.

But, just so you won't be disappointed, I will try a mini- whinge.

I hope one of his exceptions will be for direct-care employees at the VA. IOW, make the freeze apply to administration but don't forbid their replacing a retiring doctor.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (Nox3c)

217
"The next administration is working on plans to eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, and privatize the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, The Hill reported Thursday. "

Here comes more Hollywood ads featuring harebrained actors and singers emoting about how important the arts are. They'll be talking about themselves as if they're Leonardo diVinci or Shakespeare.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (ZM2xo)

218 I liked the part where the article said, 'if we can not hire people to do the work, then we will just have to subcontract it.'

Paraphrasing a little bit.
Posted by: Sam Cold Hans at January 23, 2017 03:45 PM (rG+5O)


"So, what you're saying is that you are incapable of doing the job that The People hired you to do? That you're refusing a legitimate and lawful request by your superiors to perform that job? Is that what you're saying?"

Let the firings for cause (insubordination) begin!

Posted by: filbert at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (s5o+q)

219 Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


She has nice cans. They just have to teach her not to try to speak.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (8ZskC)

220 Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


Good grief. Why?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (PY9jH)

221 It is easy to believe that Kaine drives a nondescript windowless van that is frequently seen near playgrounds!

Not around Searchlight, he's not. That's my hunting grounds

Posted by: Hairy Reed at January 23, 2017 03:50 PM (39g3+)

222 WHAT IS IT WITH LIBERALS F***ING WITH DONUTS

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LEAVE THE DONUTS BE

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 23, 2017 03:50 PM (gBCPl)

223 >>>Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.
Posted by: Azathoth at January 23, 2017 03:46 PM (J4nVH)<<<




Can you imagine Mega McCain and her on set at the same time?


1) How will we tell them apart?


2) We're gonna need a bigger set.




Posted by: FOX News producers at January 23, 2017 03:50 PM (WidQN)

224 "this service is not available"









Just click reload/refresh,

Posted by: Sam Cold Hans at January 23, 2017 03:50 PM (rG+5O)

225 They don't know poetry. But they are the only ones that can get grants for it
----------------
How now, brown bureaucrat?
Did you not stump for Trump?

Posted by: beat nick at January 23, 2017 03:50 PM (lJXY3)

226 >>Can you imagine Mega McCain and her on set at the same time?


We're gonna need a bigger bag of Flour.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (m9RuU)

227 "this service is not available"

#twoweeks

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (8ZskC)

228 Saw a comment above about Contractors should not be aloud to join a union. If you are referring to Fed Contractors (I'm one), I don't believe we are.

Posted by: Puddleglum, #NotMySuperBowl at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (jA/+t)

229 I don't know. Didn't she have some nice sweater-Harfs?

Menza-menza

She looks like a (much) less attractive Katie Pavlich, if Katie wore glasses.



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (ul9CR)

230 No government-funded kids' puppet programs

Perhaps the unkindest cut of all.

Posted by: That Dude who Voiced Elmo at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (10LGw)

231 But then I read on.

Yeah, not even a real dent, those three.


Not a significant amount in terms of money. A gigantic, shocking step in terms of history.

When, in the history of the US Federal Government was an agency ever eliminated and not replaced by a different one? Ever?

Posted by: Hairy Reed at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (39g3+)

232 My schadenboner, it knoweth no end.

If a spherical model of the universe is true...

...look out behind you.


Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (iKu60)


That's funny shit. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (aMlLZ)

233 This certainly would make the ACA impossible to pass. It would take years to read that.

Which, I am aware, is entirely the point.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (xeeHA)


Well, the point is more to ensure that a. the final language of the bill actually exists and is not just vapor ware like in ACA and II. to ensure that at least one person on the planet has read the bill in its entirety prior to anyone voting on it.

Damn it. Need to change the language of the amendment so that the human being is the same human being from the beginning to the end of the reading of the bill and if that person has a health crisis of some sort in the midst of reading the bill, then the reading must recommence from the first word.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

234 Having worked in the government leviathan, a 10-20% rif is a good start. Concentrate on the middle management suck ups and their posse.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (FtrY1)

235 . No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

"You have to pass it to see what's in it''' Nancy Peloisi and Her giant gavel...

Posted by: deplorable donna at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (O2RFr)

236 "I've been getting "this service is not available" messages sporadically for the past week or so. "


Comments exceed connection limits, IIRC

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Red County Rebel at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (d76uN)

237 Kaine looks like a guy you hide your children from.

Posted by: Trumpasaurus Rex at January 23, 2017 03:41 PM (m3iiU)



Harry Reid: You can hide them at my place. Well just the boys

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (OE2ur)

238 Here comes more Hollywood ads featuring harebrained actors and singers emoting about how important the arts are. They'll be talking about themselves as if they're Leonardo diVinci or Shakespeare.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (ZM2xo)
---------------

We
WE
We
Weee

Can't

Can't...Can't...
Make Art
Art

Without Tax
Tax
Tax

Money.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (xeeHA)

239 Harf is the one with the puffy ,red sex face right?

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (r/0kC)
---
They gave her the job so she wouldn't terrorize anybody.

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (2mC6G)

240 Why do need CAFE requirements? Because of the exemptions is why we have so many god damned SUVs.

Unintended consequences are all too frequent in the environmental area.

Don't get me going on ethanol.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (SIY7D)

241 220
Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


Good grief. Why?




Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (PY9jH)
Marie Harf in a debate with Nigel Farage..I'd watch.

Posted by: IC at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (a0IVu)

242 Best thing so far about Trump is that all subterfuge is gone. Playing field is set. No one can continue to act conservative while secretly being liberal behind the scenes. Names were named. Veils were dropped. We all know who is whom now.

Thunderdome is set.

Let's play, motherfuckers.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (pUDQf)

243 The only reason I'd hire Harff for anything is to put her on to see her embarrass herself with her vapid lack of intellect and then fire her so she's not picked up by anyone else. She's pretty but dumb as a bag of wet mice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (39g3+)

244 220 Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


Good grief. Why?



Nice tits?

Posted by: Puddleglum, #NotMySuperBowl at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (jA/+t)

245 194 Ted Cruz going soft? See HA
Posted by: Pat at January 23, 2017 03:47 PM (SGa2t)

======================

Ted Cruz acting like a politician?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (/prE6)

246 Again, you never know if you can trust the news when they report on what Trump is "planning" to do (remember all the reports on cabinet picks?) but this sounds tasty:

President Donald Trump's reported plan to gut federal spending by $10.5 trillion over the next decade includes eliminating three iconic agencies defended as cultural mainstays by many Democrats.

The next administration is working on plans to eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, and privatize the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, The Hill reported Thursday.

http://dailysignal.com/2017/01/23/trump-targets-three-agencies-with-ambitious-budget-cuts/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
****

Splooooooge! Oops. Uh, scuse me.

Posted by: Trumpasaurus Rex at January 23, 2017 03:53 PM (+aCe4)

247 >>Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


Funneling money to Little Debbie?

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:53 PM (m9RuU)

248 209 Little boy
With your nose pressed up against the bakery window
There are no jelly doughnuts for you today
Only death

(snap snap snap)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat?

as opposed to cummings's ....
how do you like your blue-eyed boy
Mister Death

Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 03:53 PM (8mO0Q)

249 Marie Harf, Shep Smith, and Geraldo walk into a bar.....

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2017 03:53 PM (PY9jH)

250 Damn it. Need to change the language of the amendment so that the human being is the same human being from the beginning to the end of the reading of the bill and if that person has a health crisis of some sort in the midst of reading the bill, then the reading must recommence from the first word.
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (mf5HN)
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Also, ensure that the people voting on it have to listen to all of it.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:53 PM (xeeHA)

251 She's pretty but dumb as a bag of wet mice.

In fairness: ...a bag of wet mice wearing smart glasses.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 23, 2017 03:54 PM (10LGw)

252 [snaps fingers enthusiastically]

Posted by: beat nick at January 23, 2017 03:54 PM (lJXY3)

253 >>Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


To make Juan Williams look smart?

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:54 PM (m9RuU)

254 Marie Harf, Shep Smith, and Geraldo walk into a bar.....
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2017 03:53 PM (PY9jH)
---
You'd have though Geraldo would have seen it!

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 03:54 PM (2mC6G)

255 Also, ensure that the people voting on it have to listen to all of it.

Posted by: Moron Pundit
===

perhaps, a quiz?

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 23, 2017 03:54 PM (toH8T)

256 >>Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


Okaaaaay...is this sorta like The View where they fill their "conservative" spot with someone so daffy that it ensures no one will be swayed by what she says?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2017 03:54 PM (NOIQH)

257

I've been a little under the *hic* weather lately,, and haven't heard what happened. So did I win or what?

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 23, 2017 03:54 PM (HSmrB)

258 At the regulatory agency is where limits need to be placed, it makes the most sense.

Hell. No.

What you just prescribed is EXACTLY the justification for Rule by the Elite that we've been fed for God knows how long. Because We the People ... through our elected representatives ... just ain't smart enough.

Either we Self-Rule ... or we do not. And if not ... Burn, Scatter, and Salt. Because I'm in no mood to be told what I'm going to do by some asshole beaurocrat ... and I really don't give two shits what his credentials say.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 23, 2017 03:54 PM (9uYWN)

259 Hey, I was available for that gig and I really need a job now.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at January 23, 2017 03:55 PM (8ZskC)

260 Who's the politician who always put out a list of ridiculously funded government programs?

I'd like to defund studies similar to ' why is it difficult to put a condom on a grizzly bear?'

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2017 03:55 PM (/BXzQ)

261 233 Well, the point is more to ensure that a. the final language of the bill actually exists and is not just vapor ware like in ACA and II. to ensure that at least one person on the planet has read the bill in its entirety prior to anyone voting on it.

Damn it. Need to change the language of the amendment so that the human being is the same human being from the beginning to the end of the reading of the bill and if that person has a health crisis of some sort in the midst of reading the bill, then the reading must recommence from the first word.
Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

===================

It's almost like you're trying to prevent Congress from passing huge laws that are filled with unknown text written by nameless staffers and industry insiders.

What are you? A terrorist hobbit?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:55 PM (/prE6)

262 Why a law? Can't any Senator with a set do this?
Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2017 03:48 PM (Ja56Y)



Not a law, a Constitutional Amendment so that there's none of this voice vote consent to waive reading.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:55 PM (mf5HN)

263 Here comes more Hollywood ads featuring harebrained actors and singers emoting about how important the arts are. They'll be talking about themselves as if they're Leonardo diVinci or Shakespeare.
_________________________

Those dipshits make plenty of money in the private market, even though they obviously lack the talents of a daVinci or Shakespeare.

That's why the arts don't need to be subsidized by taxpayers. Plus, as we've seen with NPR, once they are taxpayer-subsidized, they tend to become propaganda tools for Dim party.

Better to cut them loose to sink or swim in the private market. If the art has merit, people will pay for it. If it doesn't have merit, then it deserves to die.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 23, 2017 03:55 PM (riF5p)

264 "I would like to sunset regulations."

I would, too. But the track record isn't great.

Many of us breathed a sigh of relief when the LBJ-era Voting Rights Act, that monstrosity which enshrined *deliberately* racially gerrymandered congressional districts as a matter of federal law, sunsetted and expired in 2006.

George W. Bush and a Republican House and a Republican Senate immediately re-authorized the sunsetted VRA.

Bush thought that this act of _noblesse oblige_ on his part would impel black voters to head to the polls that fall and vote Republican.

Well, black voters did go to the polls that fall in large numbers, where they reciprocated Dubya's generosity by voting their customary straight-ticket Democratic slate, helping produce the doubleheader loss of the House and the Senate for the GOP.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 23, 2017 03:55 PM (noWW6)

265 Hey! Obamas Legacy, I'm over here!

Posted by: The Toilet at January 23, 2017 03:55 PM (iynDC)

266 168 Can one of the cobs fix that top link on the sidebar so we can embiggen it?

Thank you

Posted by: kallisto at January 23, 2017 03:43 PM (nNdYv)

++++

Here you go.
https://i.redd.it/4tlnsvgyt9px.jpg

Posted by: The Esteemed Gentleman from Wherever at January 23, 2017 03:55 PM (R+30W)

267 When, in the history of the US Federal Government was an agency ever eliminated and not replaced by a different one? Ever?
Posted by: Hairy Reed at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (39g3+)
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This is true. It'd be like when Obama was elected and oceans started to recede. A change in direction.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:56 PM (xeeHA)

268 Does anyome knows if Present Obama will does something about what that idioot Trump is doing regarding govment hiring? This moost likerly will effect Gays and Lesbians which Bratttleboro opposes ............

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT (Soon to be Obamaboro, VT) at January 23, 2017 03:56 PM (Fbj4h)

269 Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (xeeHA)

Ha!!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 23, 2017 03:56 PM (ZM2xo)

270 Marie Harf ??? The cans aren't that spectacular, and from what I've seen she's about 10 years away from looking like whistlers mother. Shit man, nothing to see here.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2017 03:56 PM (aMlLZ)

271 235
. No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.




I am sure this rule is routinely ignored by a move to suspend the rules by acclamation.

Posted by: Pat at January 23, 2017 03:56 PM (SGa2t)

272 Yeah its inconcievable to me that congress not just with the ACA, but routinely, by design votes on stuff they've never read. And worse, with the ACA before the god damned thing was even completed which I am certain is a constitutional violation which was never brought up in court. It let someone finish writing (add in whatever they want) into a bill after it was passed, effectively bypassing representative government entirely.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:57 PM (39g3+)

273 I read Geraldo got hit in the face by a thrown brick Friday. It moved.

Posted by: Super Beats For Better Mental Health at January 23, 2017 03:57 PM (U5kaK)

274 Loved it when Spicer started rattling off all the unions meeting with Trump today---every single one was a trades union (carpenters, pipefitters, etc.) No mention whatsoever of SEIU, teachers, or the like.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 23, 2017 03:57 PM (HiDrR)

275 No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.

The above provision shall also apply to any and all amendments to bills.
Posted by: alexthechick

----

So you're suggesting an end to the age-old practice of "We have to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it"?

That's a little dicey, don't you think?

I say we should pass laws that are covered by a big silver rectangle; you pass the law, then you whip out a quarter and scrape the edge on it to see what you just passed!

IT'S FUN!

Posted by: RKae at January 23, 2017 03:58 PM (QxDWi)

276 270 Marie Harf ??? The cans aren't that spectacular, and from what I've seen she's about 10 years away from looking like whistlers mother. Shit man, nothing to see here.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2017 03:56 PM (aMlLZ)

Did you mean Stifler's mom?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 23, 2017 03:58 PM (8hICw)

277 No vote shall be taken until the full text of the bill is read.
---
This bill shall be deemed as having been read.

Posted by: Nazi Pelousi at January 23, 2017 03:58 PM (2mC6G)

278 Separation of church and state - good.

Separation of art and state - good.

Separation of Target Bathrooms and state - good.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2017 03:58 PM (pUDQf)

279 247 >>Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


Funneling money to Little Debbie?
Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:53 PM (m9RuU)

+++

They simply play musical chairs with these people. Ever notice? If one anchor leaves, they just pop up elsewhere. Same with politicos. Rarely are they out of a job for long. It's almost like someone, way high up is pulling the strings. It makes me seethe.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2017 03:58 PM (Ivjge)

280 264 "I would like to sunset regulations."

I would, too. But the track record isn't great.

Many of us breathed a sigh of relief when the LBJ-era Voting Rights Act, that monstrosity which enshrined *deliberately* racially gerrymandered congressional districts as a matter of federal law, sunsetted and expired in 2006.

George W. Bush and a Republican House and a Republican Senate immediately re-authorized the sunsetted VRA.

Bush thought that this act of _noblesse oblige_ on his part would impel black voters to head to the polls that fall and vote Republican.

Well, black voters did go to the polls that fall in large numbers, where they reciprocated Dubya's generosity by voting their customary straight-ticket Democratic slate, helping produce the doubleheader loss of the House and the Senate for the GOP.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 23, 2017 03:55 PM (noWW6)

===================

The point is that Congress has to keep justifying the vote over the years. It helps our laws more accurately reflect the will of the people instead of leaving it calcified in another time.

Notice, this only applies to laws, not the constitution. That's another discussion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:58 PM (/prE6)

281 Spicer vs. Dippin' Dots

Sean Spicer @seanspicer
Dippin dots is NOT the ice cream of the future
8:04 PM - 7 Apr 2010


Sean Spicer @seanspicer
I think I have said this before but Dippin Dots are not the ice cream of the future
4:23 PM - 22 Sep 2011


Sean Spicer @seanspicer
Ice Cream of the Past: Dippin Dots Files for Bankruptcy
12:47 PM - 4 Nov 2011

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 23, 2017 03:59 PM (ul9CR)

282 Why is it that when you watch a PBS program they tell you it is brought to you by a MacArthur Foundation grant, or Volvo, etc and viewers like you? How much is the government really funding? Seems like they would only have to cover a fraction of costs with additional grants and viewer donations.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2017 03:59 PM (NOIQH)

283 >>Loved it when Spicer started rattling off all the unions meeting with Trump today---every single one was a trades union (carpenters, pipefitters, etc.) No mention whatsoever of SEIU, teachers, or the like.


Fuck ALL Unions.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:59 PM (m9RuU)

284 The Voting Rights Act, at least parts of it, are absolutely reprehensible and indefensible by any constitutional interpretation. It is very clearly violating Article one which states in no uncertain terms that the states decide how they will run their elections. Period, full stop, no footnotes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:59 PM (39g3+)

285 Does anyome knows if Present Obama will does something about what that idioot Trump is doing regarding govment hiring? This moost likerly will effect Gays and Lesbians which Bratttleboro opposes ............

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT (Soon to be Obamaboro, VT) at January 23, 2017 03:56 PM (Fbj4h)




Brattleboro opposes gays and lesbians?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 23, 2017 04:00 PM (OE2ur)

286 284 The Voting Rights Act, at least parts of it, are absolutely reprehensible and indefensible by any constitutional interpretation. It is very clearly violating Article one which states in no uncertain terms that the states decide how they will run their elections. Period, full stop, no footnotes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:59 PM (39g3+)

=======================

"Precedent, bitches."
-SCOTUS

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 04:00 PM (/prE6)

287 Marie Harf! Finally something Bill & I can agree on! Chappaqua Sammich!

Posted by: Distillery Hillary at January 23, 2017 04:00 PM (0HoCS)

288 Did Tillerson and Pompeo get confirmed yet?

Posted by: IC at January 23, 2017 04:00 PM (a0IVu)

289 283 >>Loved it when Spicer started rattling off all the unions meeting with Trump today---every single one was a trades union (carpenters, pipefitters, etc.) No mention whatsoever of SEIU, teachers, or the like.


Fuck ALL Unions.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 03:59 PM (m9RuU)

Look, when the unions are actually advancing and protecting their trade, I can understand it. When it becomes a protection racket for laziness and second rate work and an extension of the DNC, then I go to your statement.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 23, 2017 04:00 PM (8hICw)

290 Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

And that at least a simple majority of the House and Senate were continuously present for the readings, with a restart if attendance falls below 50%!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2017 04:00 PM (9LSzT)

291 Why is it that when you watch a PBS program they tell you it is brought to you by a MacArthur Foundation grant, or Volvo, etc and viewers like you? How much is the government really funding? Seems like they would only have to cover a fraction of costs with additional grants and viewer donations.
Posted by: Lizzy

---

At last count, I have approximately one million channels on my cable box. And every damned one of them is leftist propaganda.

Why exactly does PBS still exist?

Posted by: RKae at January 23, 2017 04:01 PM (QxDWi)

292 Bad as ObamaCare is, we dodged a bullet when the Senate didn't pass Obama's energy bill after the House did.

When the House voted it was pointed out that there wasn't a single copy of the final bill in the building. Energy Czar Van Jones was still making up shit.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 23, 2017 04:01 PM (SIY7D)

293 289 Look, when the unions are actually advancing and protecting their trade, I can understand it. When it becomes a protection racket for laziness and second rate work and an extension of the DNC, then I go to your statement.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 23, 2017 04:00 PM (8hICw)

=====================

Private sector unions, quite simply, should be allowed to exist but should receive no special treatment under the law.

I think that's the easiest way to look at them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 04:01 PM (/prE6)

294 Still not tired of all the winning.

Keep it coming!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 23, 2017 04:02 PM (riF5p)

295 Hope he gets around to rescinding the lead ammo ban that Obama instated on the 19th for all federal lands.
Posted by: Pat
...........
That would be nice.. but all he has to do is stop any enforcement efforts.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 23, 2017 04:02 PM (so+oy)

296 Hey! I quit my government job! Fuck you, Trump!

Posted by: Marie Harf: Former Essential Government Worker at January 23, 2017 04:02 PM (qJhUV)

297 I like the refashioned Winnie the Pooh cartoon in the sidebar.

Posted by: bluebell at January 23, 2017 04:02 PM (sBOL1)

298 fucking test

Posted by: a hot air dickhead writer at January 23, 2017 04:02 PM (lJXY3)

299 The unions were prepared. Meaning they will make sure they act with less competence than usual and deliberately slow down their already glacial pace so they can say- "see what happens when you mess with unionized government workers, we become everything you already thought we were. Only worse".

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2017 04:02 PM (Ebqhi)

300 President Donald Trump's spokesperson Sean Spicer has become a bit of a
laughingstock for some of his Saturday night comments to the media.

Spicer deserves this criticism for basically coming off like a cheap version of his boss (albeit with better hair).

Posted by: a hot air dickhead writer at January 23, 2017 04:02 PM (lJXY3)

301 You do realize that requiring them to read a law just means they'll scare up interns to filibuster-style read out bills all day long in front of a bored stenographer staff somewhere in the side of the well? They sure as Hell won't.

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (gBCPl)

302 Why is it that when you watch a PBS program they tell you it is brought to you by a MacArthur Foundation grant, or Volvo, etc and viewers like you? How much is the government really funding?

Weeellll that depends when you ask and why.

If you are asking that question in terms of whether it should be cut, then they always say "we don't get that much anyway!" But if you ask when the cuts are going to happen, they scream "you will destroy Bert and Ernie!" (who are not owned by PBS any longer anyway).

As I understand it, the government funding is actually a fairly small number.

But even if PBS goes under, its not a particularly significant event. Their purpose according to the legislation that created the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was to fill the gap in television that having 3 networks left, providing alternate programming with arts and such on it.

With cable TV and streaming, the world is aflood with programming that only PBS would bring in 1971. It has served its purpose and should be put out to pasture.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (39g3+)

303 284 The Voting Rights Act, at least parts of it, are absolutely reprehensible and indefensible by any constitutional interpretation. It is very clearly violating Article one which states in no uncertain terms that the states decide how they will run their elections. Period, full stop, no footnotes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 03:59 PM (39g3+)

++++

Yeah, but, the 15th amendment. Gives Congress the power to write laws to enforce.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (R+30W)

304 Why exactly does PBS still exist?
Posted by: RKae at January 23, 2017 04:01 PM (QxDWi)
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So that you can be reassured that culture is being delivered on some channel you're not watching.

Posted by: Axeman at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (2mC6G)

305 Dear President Trump:

I really, really want my incandescent light bulbs back. Could you please see what you can do about that.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Sincerely,
IrishEi

Posted by: IrishEi at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (HiDrR)

306 Why exactly does PBS still exist?
Posted by: RKae at January 23, 2017 04:01 PM (QxDWi)
_________________

Democrats.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (riF5p)

307 Yeah, no.

Fuck all Unions.

Nothing but organized crime.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (m9RuU)

308 Ace Harfed up a nood

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (8ZskC)

309 Did Tillerson and Pompeo get confirmed yet?
Posted by: IC at January 23, 2017 04:00 PM (a0IVu)
******
The vote for Pompeo is scheduled for 7pm EST. Don't know about Tillerson, but he'll get through.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (Rsi2C)

310
Marie Harf, Shep Smith, and Geraldo walk into a bar..... Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2017 03:53 PM (PY9jH)


On ladys night and Shep is the only one drinking for free

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (lKyWE)

311 *shoves lemon bar through USB port for Hrothgar*

What are you? A terrorist hobbit?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 03:55 PM (/prE6)


*shifty eyes*

No.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (mf5HN)

312 @281

Dipping Dot's just offered a free ice cream social for the press room.



http://tinyurl.com/hltvovu


Posted by: Pat at January 23, 2017 04:04 PM (SGa2t)

313 In other news, looks like Trump told China to knock-it-the-fuck-off today. No more stealing shit from International Waters!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2017 04:04 PM (pUDQf)

314 This is a great Monday, despite no news (still) on the job front and the weather being blah. Why?

Because Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States.

Everything else today is icing on the cake.

Posted by: iwuzhere at January 23, 2017 04:04 PM (GRNzr)

315 311
*shifty eyes*

No.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (mf5HN)

===================

Well, I'm convinced.

It was the shifty eyes that convinced me of your innocence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 23, 2017 04:04 PM (/prE6)

316 "Loved it when Spicer started rattling off all the unions meeting with Trump today---every single one was a trades union (carpenters, pipefitters, etc.)"

Some unions are trying to play both sides in this.

Note the prominent blue and white "UAW" sign amidst the discarded detritus from the Weird Wimmenz' Waddle.

http://tinyurl.com/jl2a2dk

Posted by: torquewrench at January 23, 2017 04:06 PM (noWW6)

317 Yeah, but, the 15th amendment. Gives Congress the power to write laws to enforce.

An amendment which I sympathize with the concept of, but is written in such a way as to be utterly indefensible as well. As written, children cannot be prohibited from drinking or driving, literally nobody can be prevented from anything someone else is able to do, unless convicted by law. And that's absurd. The only thing that hasn't ripped the lid off this cluster**k is a lack of desire.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 04:06 PM (39g3+)

318 Marie Harf? The nittwit that was yanked from her SD spokesperson role cuz she was so clueless?

I dunno, Fox, but it seems to me she'd be a better fit at CNN or better yet Al-Jazeera.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 23, 2017 04:06 PM (xpfRn)

319 If they put Harf, and Farage on the Five. I would start watching it again.

Posted by: simplemind at January 23, 2017 04:06 PM (xVRrG)

320 Reading the news before Inauguration Day made me so blue, I came here to read what I recognize as the truth.

now, reading the news of what Pres. Trump's doing makes me feel as if I've awakened from a long, bad dream.

morning in America, it is.

Posted by: booknlass at January 23, 2017 04:07 PM (8mO0Q)

321 The rules we have regarding threats to public officials in general and
the President in particular are obviously important and they're in place
for a reason. But we do tend to get a bit carried away with them at
times. Not every comment of this nature is intended seriously and,
particularly when we're talking about comedians, entertainers and
purveyors of outrage, it should be fairly simple to dismiss such talk as
boorish behavior.

Posted by: a hot air dickhead writer at January 23, 2017 04:07 PM (lJXY3)

322 I don't know if the TPP is, on balance, good or bad. I do know, however, that despite opposition to it from Bernie Sanders, 95% of the lefties I'm seeing are talking about how bad Trump is for doing this. Because they're dumbshits.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 23, 2017 03:32 PM (xN1DB)


Some people are reflexively anti-Trump, just as there are people who are reflexively pro-Trump.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 23, 2017 04:09 PM (OzJeO)

323 Trump: Leading from the front.

Posted by: OCBill at January 23, 2017 04:10 PM (df+Zi)

324 [andycanuck takes off his monocle and uses it to reflect a bright light into alexthechick's eyes]
She's telling the truth. I'm never wrong after I give the "test".

Posted by: andycanuck at January 23, 2017 04:12 PM (lJXY3)

325 278 ---Separation of church and state - good.
Separation of art and state - good.
Separation of Target Bathrooms and state - good.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 23, 2017 03:58 PM
---------------------
Separation of education and state - good.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 23, 2017 04:12 PM (Nox3c)

326 317 Yeah, but, the 15th amendment. Gives Congress the power to write laws to enforce.

An amendment which I sympathize with the concept of, but is written in such a way as to be utterly indefensible as well. As written, children cannot be prohibited from drinking or driving, literally nobody can be prevented from anything someone else is able to do, unless convicted by law. And that's absurd. The only thing that hasn't ripped the lid off this cluster**k is a lack of desire.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 23, 2017 04:06 PM (39g3+)

++++

Maybe you're thinking of the 14th? The 15th was just about voting.

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


Now if you want to say that the laws that were passed don't strictly follow the amendment, I would likely agree. But, this is where Congress gets its hook to mess with elections.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 23, 2017 04:13 PM (R+30W)

327 Nood.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 23, 2017 04:13 PM (lJXY3)

328 39. We can still shit in the hallway though, right?


\OH YEAH!

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 23, 2017 04:15 PM (ONH2e)

329 Fox News has hired ex-Obama State Department spox Marie Harf as a contributor.


Good grief. Why?



Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (PY9jH)


The potted plants needed company.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Wishes You a Happy Trump Day! at January 23, 2017 04:15 PM (hLRSq)

330 Terrorist? Hobbit?

Nope. Meat popscicle.

Posted by: Trumpasaurus Rex at January 23, 2017 04:15 PM (uhftQ)

331 sock begone

Posted by: 13times at January 23, 2017 04:18 PM (WHVu+)

332 Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 23, 2017 04:03 PM (mf5HN)

My day, nay my week, is now complete!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2017 04:22 PM (9LSzT)

333
She has nice cans. They just have to teach her not to try to speak.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (8ZskC)

Steve Martin in the Jerk- "These Cans are Defective"

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 23, 2017 04:23 PM (y3aQB)

334 Here comes more Hollywood ads featuring harebrained actors and singers emoting about how important the arts are. They'll be talking about themselves as if they're Leonardo diVinci or Shakespeare.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 23, 2017 03:49 PM (ZM2xo)
---------------

We
WE
We
Weee

Can't

Can't...Can't...
Make Art
Art

Without Tax
Tax
Tax

Money.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 23, 2017 03:52 PM (xeeHA)

I am an artist. I paint every day. I believe in ART, I just don't believe in GOVERNMENT FUNDED ART while homeless veterans die every day so some no talent HACK can squat in a Tribeca loft and throw paint and feces at a canvas.


Whew, that felt goooood, I think I need a cigarette and I have never had one.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now @SMcEvil on GAB at January 23, 2017 04:24 PM (kXoT0)

335 President Trump negated TPP. Where are Bill Wynn's comments.

Posted by: French Jeton at January 23, 2017 04:33 PM (WMvHw)

336 You need to start attaching that annoying rap song whose lyrics are, "All I do is win, Win, WIN, WIN!!!!!!" to these posts.

Posted by: Ktgreat at January 23, 2017 04:35 PM (Bl4dy)

337 "There is a legitimate role for regulation-making under statutory
authority. The question is, what is properly within that realm versus
what must be approved by the legislature? That's the hard part."

At least 40 states already have some form of legislative review of proposed executive rulemaking, to insure that the rules under consideration are within the agency's statutory authority and/or conform to that state's Administrative Procedure Act. The most common procedure is to have a bipartisan standing legislative committee perform this function. (I work for one of these bodies.) In some states the committee can step in and prevent objectionable rulemakings from taking effect; in other states the committee is merely advisory. Nothing like this currently exists at the federal level.

Posted by: Secret Square at January 23, 2017 04:55 PM (+HoK2)

338 The liberal screeching over the abortion-foreign aid cut is paticularly deafening. I guess killing foreigners with our tax dollars is ok as long as abortionists do it but try the same thing with the miltary and sheesh..

Posted by: Serena at January 23, 2017 05:25 PM (44LEs)

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