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The FBI Never Examined the DNC's Hacked Computers; The Diagnosis of "Hacked by Russia" Was Made By a Private Firm the DNC Hired

Anyone see a problem here?

First, if you really cared about Russian hacking like you claim to do, you'd give the computers to the FBI so that they -- the actual counter-intelligence law enforcement agency of the US -- can hunt the bad guys down.

Second, although some DNC jackass says this private firm Crowdstrike is "pretty good," I'll tell you what they also are -- they are paid by the DNC. When your employer lets you know he strongly would like you to consider a conclusion he favors, well, someone getting paid and looking to get paid in the future might just find himself seeing Reds Under His Beds that aren't necessarily there.

The DNC isn't acting like it thinks it was hacked by Russians. It's acting only as if it's in its political interest to claim it was hacked by Russians.

Posted by: Ace at 11:55 AM




Comments

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1 Fake story for the fake news to cover

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 05, 2017 11:56 AM (7ZVPa)

2 God forbid we actually know what's going on inside the DNC

Posted by: BacktoGA at January 05, 2017 11:56 AM (QUl0c)

3 Oh sure we could report this story but it doesn't really for the anti-Trump narrative we're pushing right now so...pass.

Posted by: CNN at January 05, 2017 11:57 AM (BDZWU)

4 top 5?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 11:58 AM (WGxp4)

5 Medals for everybody!

Posted by: t-bird at January 05, 2017 11:58 AM (2z74n)

6 They just outsourced the job to "Narratives R Us"

Posted by: Roy at January 05, 2017 11:58 AM (VndSC)

7 You're just mad because the Donks and the MFM are risking WWIII to score internal political points.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 11:58 AM (Nwg0u)

8 :so federal officials lied. Martha Stewart just emailed me to say it sounds legit.

Posted by: O in the bunker at January 05, 2017 11:58 AM (nFwvY)

9 But Hillary told me that 17 intelligence agencies had concluded that the hack was by the Russians...

How could they possibly conclude that if they didn't even look at the key piece of evidence?

...Hmmm....

#fakenews

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 11:59 AM (WGxp4)

10 Get Comey on this!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 11:59 AM (Nwg0u)

11 Told you was not us.

Posted by: Starbucks Moscow at January 05, 2017 11:59 AM (2WITp)

12 They were just lucky that the Russian words the hackers were using didn't translate into "patriot" or "tea party".

Posted by: Roy at January 05, 2017 11:59 AM (VndSC)

13 And *why* would the FBI allow themselves to be portrayed as authoring this conclusion, or at minimum, endorsing it??????

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:00 PM (NOIQH)

14 What's sad/scary is Obamas willing to play brinkmanship with Russia in his last days over this

Posted by: Eggo at January 05, 2017 12:01 PM (nF4Bw)

15 14 What's sad/scary is Obamas willing to play brinkmanship with Russia in his last days over this
Posted by: Eggo

He's bad that way.

Posted by: Israel at January 05, 2017 12:01 PM (VndSC)

16 10 Get Comey on this

Comey? F that. Go to the mosque and put Brennan on the case.

Posted by: O in the bunker at January 05, 2017 12:01 PM (nFwvY)

17 Funny thing about Crowdstrike is that their CTO is a Russian ex-pat named Dmitri Alperovitch.

I'm not sure exactly of what significance that is, but something tells me its not unrelated.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:01 PM (WGxp4)

18 I see a big problem - I missed the NOOD announcement

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 05, 2017 12:01 PM (Om16U)

19 Second look on the climate research that's funded by Exxon? I mean, I'm sure they're "pretty good" too.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 05, 2017 12:01 PM (KUaJL)

20 The Social Justice Warriors that tortured the special needs fellow in Chicago were all Russian agents, too.

Posted by: Methos at January 05, 2017 12:02 PM (3Liv/)

21 As Fox Mulder says, Trust No One!

Posted by: Kreplach at January 05, 2017 12:02 PM (3Xxpy)

22 This whole thing reeks of the Sony "hack" where they now have so much invested in this theory they will just keep doubling down in the lies that be publicly humiliated.

Trump and the Congress need to reform the civil service and start firing people en masse.

The CIA, State Dept and NSA are full of Valerie Plame types that will kneecap Trump at every opportunity and will even start a war on false pretenses if they don't get their way on elections.

Posted by: Maritime at January 05, 2017 12:02 PM (oRhb+)

23 I'm not saying that the Russians did all this hacking...


But it was the Russians.

Posted by: DNC Chairman Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at January 05, 2017 12:02 PM (hBIFh)

24 13 And *why* would the FBI allow themselves to be portrayed as authoring this conclusion, or at minimum, endorsing it??????
Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:00 PM (NOIQH)
===

Yo!

Posted by: James Comey at January 05, 2017 12:02 PM (BDZWU)

25 Russians hacked 4 black teens turning them violent. Via cellphone signals. And blinky gifs.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 05, 2017 12:03 PM (Om16U)

26 I'm pretty sure my 8th grade research papers have more journalistic integrity than anyone in the MFM.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 05, 2017 12:03 PM (KUaJL)

27 Obviously the DNC is run by a bunch of old rich Knockers.

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:03 PM (tPC7s)

28 First, if you really cared about Russian hacking like you claim to do, you'd give the computers to the FBI so that they -- the actual counter-intelligence law enforcement agency of the US -- can hunt the bad guys down.

---

unless they also contained evidence of your own crimes

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 05, 2017 12:03 PM (PNcou)

29 Also, Dmitri is not based in Silicon Valley like the company he runs is.

He is out of DC, and seems to have side gigs talking to DC people about cyber espionage by foreign govts.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:03 PM (WGxp4)

30 Just remember...It's not a lie if you believe it!

Posted by: George Costanza at January 05, 2017 12:03 PM (BDZWU)

31 If you're working for the DNC, no need to look for Reds under the beds. They're standing around you while you work.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 05, 2017 12:04 PM (SRKgf)

32 They couldn't risk them finding Bill's pron collection.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 05, 2017 12:04 PM (4ErVI)

33 So DNC hired stooges said "It wuz da Russkie!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2017 12:05 PM (tYHhZ)

34 32 They couldn't risk them finding Bill's pron collection.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis


That was safely stored on Weiner's laptop.

Posted by: Roy at January 05, 2017 12:05 PM (VndSC)

35 Commiecrats lie, even about Russkies.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 05, 2017 12:05 PM (ujg0T)

36 Looking around google, it seems that all this Dmitri guy and his company do is talk about Russian and Chinese cyber espionage around DC.

Probably why he was hired by the DNC.

It's not like they are an independent cyber security company coming at this with an impartial look. Their entire company is based on foreign govt cyber espionage.

I suspect if you want someone to say "THE RUSSIANS DID IT" (or Chinese or whomever), he's the guy you hire.

Why didn't the DNC hire a more... neutral company with a CTO who is not famous for talking about Russians all over DC?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:05 PM (WGxp4)

37 #FakeNews, First! should be the new WaPo banner motto.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2017 12:05 PM (LISuA)

38 The story that seems to escape the 'news' people is that everything contained in the leaks has been shown to be true.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 05, 2017 12:06 PM (7ZVPa)

39 "When your employer lets you know he strongly would like you to consider a conclusion he favors, well, someone getting paid and looking to get paid in the future might just find himself seeing Reds Under His Beds that aren't necessarily there."
------------

So, The AGW Gambit?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 05, 2017 12:06 PM (ZO497)

40 So DNC hired stooges said "It wuz da Russkie!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2017 12:05 PM (tYHhZ)




MFM: Good enough for us. It was the Russians!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2017 12:06 PM (493sH)

41 when your employer lets you know he strongly would like you to consider a conclusion he favors, well, someone getting paid and looking to get paid in the future might just find himself seeing Reds Under His Beds that aren't necessarily there.

I'm sure they worded their report to say, "while we can't conclusively affirm that it was 'hacked' by Russians, we simultaneously can not rule it out."

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 05, 2017 12:06 PM (8hICw)

42 "Anybody see a problem here"


Nope, looks above board to me

Posted by: Ran Dather (CBS News, Ret.) at January 05, 2017 12:06 PM (J+eG2)

43 The story that seems to escape the 'news' people is that everything contained in the leaks has been shown to be true.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
---------

That's what the deflection is about, to distract from the substance. "Squirrel!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 05, 2017 12:07 PM (ZO497)

44 Jug Ears would not have expelled all those Russian spies without justification, would he?

Abu John Brennan said it was true!

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2017 12:07 PM (LISuA)

45 Dmitri is also a fellow at the Atlanic Council, a thinktank looking organization run by John Huntsman, Jr. out of DC

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:07 PM (WGxp4)

46 Hahahahaha

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/253724/

Posted by: steevy at January 05, 2017 12:07 PM (r/0kC)

47 I said this on the previous thread, but I'm more inclined to believe that it was a leak from the inside than a "hack", but I don't dismiss the idea of a "hack" wholecloth.

I think that Putin could have had a clear goal of undermining confidence in American elections (which has succeeded with 52% of Democrats thinking that Russia hacked actual voting machines). That doesn't mean that we should attack Russia or anything, just that it's in the realm of possibility that it could have happened that way.

It's mostly an argument for Democrats to calm down and to stop playing into Putin's hands.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:07 PM (/prE6)

48 41 when your employer lets you know he strongly would like you to consider a conclusion he favors, well, someone getting paid and looking to get paid in the future might just find himself seeing Reds Under His Beds that aren't necessarily there.

I'm sure they worded their report to say, "while we can't conclusively affirm that it was 'hacked' by Russians, we simultaneously can not rule it out."
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 05, 2017 12:06 PM (8hICw)

Based on Harry P's comment ( #36 ), I retract my comment.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 05, 2017 12:07 PM (8hICw)

49 If you're working for the DNC, no need to look for Reds under the beds. They're standing around you while you work.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

These are not the Reds you were looking for!

Unseriously, the Democrat Party is more "red" than the Russians are now. At least the leadership.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at January 05, 2017 12:07 PM (RFeQD)

50 The Clickers in the DNC are not representative of all Crackers in America.

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:08 PM (tPC7s)

51 If you're working for the DNC, no need to look for Reds under the beds. They're standing around you while you work.

++++

Not. Commies believe in the dictatorship of the proletariat. Socialists just want the dictatorship part.

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 05, 2017 12:08 PM (GGQLa)

52 My FitBit was hacked by the Russians and it made me run so fast that I died of a heart attack!

Posted by: zombie at January 05, 2017 12:08 PM (jBuUi)

53 And this, my young students, is how you create "the news"

Posted by: Dan Rather at January 05, 2017 12:08 PM (LISuA)

54 >>Funny thing about Crowdstrike is that their CTO is a Russian ex-pat named Dmitri Alperovitch.


Think he recommended the DNC install Kapearsky anti-virus software?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:08 PM (NOIQH)

55 This is akin to Hillary having her lawyers look at her emails and declare them irrelevant.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 05, 2017 12:08 PM (ZO497)

56 The DNC was not "hacked" - it was exposed through it's own negligence.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 05, 2017 12:08 PM (Om16U)

57 Someone explain to me why I should care about the source of the info as long as the content appears to be genuine?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 05, 2017 12:09 PM (KUaJL)

58 It may, in fact, have been Russians, as in Russian freelancers sending malware to stupid users. Or maybe Romanians, or Germans, or Poles...but probably not an intel agency.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at January 05, 2017 12:09 PM (RD7QR)

59 #FakeNews, First! should be the new WaPo banner motto.
Posted by: MTF

We create the need for Fake News, and then....we fill it!

- Washington Post

(quaint counter culture publication, as G. Gordon Liddy used to call it)

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at January 05, 2017 12:09 PM (RFeQD)

60 I lost my 'password'

Posted by: undocumented John Podesta at January 05, 2017 12:09 PM (e8kgV)

61 97% of Crowdstrike employees agree the science is settled.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (IqV8l)

62 13 And *why* would the FBI allow themselves to be portrayed as authoring this conclusion, or at minimum, endorsing it??????


Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:00 PM (NOIQH



Because they are controlled by the Democrats.

Posted by: buzzion at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (cAnNx)

63
Investigations by Mariah Carey and Kanye West have concluded...it was the Russians!

Posted by: Film at 11 at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (CFAp3)

64 57 Someone explain to me why I should care about the source of the info as long as the content appears to be genuine?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 05, 2017 12:09 PM (KUaJL)

=====================

That really is the more interesting question, isn't it?

Is this genuine information?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (/prE6)

65 Related.

A meme going around Facebook is a pic of Mariah Carey holding a bottle of Stolichnaya and the phrase," Maria Carey's performance hacked by Russians. "

LOL

Posted by: Jen at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (a2Sj8)

66 It's the American media and the Democrat party (birm)undermining confidence in elections.

Posted by: steevy at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (r/0kC)

67 Unseriously, the Democrat Party is more "red" than the Russians are now. At least the leadership.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at January 05, 2017 12:07 PM (RFeQD)



We defeated them abroad, and even Putin's Russia has repudiated them, but a 5th column remained at home.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (ujg0T)

68 This Russia and Fake News tactic is all part of the same Censorship and self censorship strategy cooked up in DC after the 2010 and 2014 elections.

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (tPC7s)

69 I'm not saying it was aliens, but...ALIENS.

Posted by: Max Power at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (QCc6B)

70 57 Someone explain to me why I should care about the source of the info as long as the content appears to be genuine?

--

If only my wife never read my texts to my mistress we'd still be happily married!

Posted by: Typical Divorced Dem at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (Om16U)

71 60 I lost my 'password'
Posted by: undocumented John Podesta at January 05, 2017 12:09 PM (e8kgV)

You should click HERE to reset it!

~ Totally legit hyperlink that just popped up on your screen

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 05, 2017 12:10 PM (8hICw)

72 I recently hired "Mirror Mirror On the Wall Consultants" to give me an assessment of my physical beauty and -- wow! -- after a detailed investigation they informed me that I was "the fairest of them all"!

Posted by: zombie at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (jBuUi)

73 weinee type sock off

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (Om16U)

74 Just found a video of Dmitri from when he worked at McAfee (years ago) talking about the threat of cyber espionage by the Russian govt. (not going to watch the whole thing).

http://tinyurl.com/gna66xa

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (WGxp4)

75 Maybe these were the people who found Podesta's phone in the cab. Or cracked his password (which was "Password").

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,Deplorable Infidel Queen at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (fq4ih)

76 There isn't the tiniest chance of "war" with Russia.


The cyber war has been going on, more or less at the same level, for years. And Russia has not been the major adversary.


The revealed information is apparently authentic.


The revealed information was not widely reported and to this day is barely known by most of the electorate.


As you were, carry on.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (QDnY+)

77 The intelligence community was satisfied to put their name on this report ?

Posted by: undocumented snowden at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (e8kgV)

78 The video is from 2009 it looks like.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (WGxp4)

79 "Anybody see a problem here"


Nope, looks above board to me
Posted by: Ran Dather (CBS News, Ret.)

-
Didja see that Dirtball Dan is teaching a Truth In News course?

http://tinyurl.com/jg6sfro

It's like Lena Dunham teaching a Grace and Good Taste course.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (Nwg0u)

80 Not. Commies believe in the dictatorship of the proletariat. Socialists just want the dictatorship part.
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 05, 2017 12:08 PM (GGQLa)



They are the dictators, we are the proletariat.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (ujg0T)

81 It's almost like Dem's lie. Constantly. Like a spinal reflex.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (sh70B)

82 Believe it or not, I am STILL alive.

Posted by: Podesta at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (qJhUV)

83 Think he recommended the DNC install Kapearsky anti-virus software?
Posted by: Lizzy


I can imagine the offices at Kaspersky, where in one part of the building they do Anti-Virus software writing, and another part of the building is working up Viruses and Malware to attack computers. Just like Putin asked for.
Create the need....then fill it!!

Es Pravda!!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at January 05, 2017 12:11 PM (RFeQD)

84 >>This is akin to Hillary having her lawyers look at her emails and declare them irrelevant.


Akin to every Obama admin investigation into wrongdoing done by his administration and the federal agencies he overseas.
Nothing to see, no big deal, no one named or lost their job (unless there was a whistleblower - that guy/gal always got punished).

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:12 PM (NOIQH)

85 Given the history of the Democrats to attempt to discredit any result other than the one they want,

AND given the history of the Democrats to politicize and weaponize Federal agencies to their benefit,

Occam's Razor is practically erecting a digital billboard visible from space pointing directly at this being (a) not the Russians, and (b) an attempt to salvage a useful result from the round robin Charlie Foxtrot that was 2016.

If the Russians want faith lessened in our electoral system, they don't need to lift a finger. The Dems have been doing just fine and dandy all by their lonesomes.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 05, 2017 12:12 PM (9krrF)

86 Here's an Actual Thought. Is it possible that the emails were BOTH leaked and hacked?

The Russians hacked them cause that's what governments do. And around the same time, someone inside the DNC leaked them to wikileaks.

Even proving the Russians hacked them does not prove that the Russians made them public. I could argue that they were more valuable to Putin if not made public.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 05, 2017 12:12 PM (PNcou)

87 Milli Vanilli didn't lipsync -- they were hacked! Leave Milli Vanilli alone, you russkies!

Posted by: zombie at January 05, 2017 12:12 PM (jBuUi)

88 I dare anyone in these "hearings" to say "Mark Rich" and watch wheels fall off.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,Deplorable Infidel Queen at January 05, 2017 12:12 PM (fq4ih)

89 30 Just remember...It's not a lie if you believe it!

----

so true

Posted by: MSM at January 05, 2017 12:13 PM (PNcou)

90 I am proud to say I ran my administration on fake news for eight straight years and the voting public never figured it out!

Posted by: President For Life, Barackabamba at January 05, 2017 12:13 PM (LISuA)

91 There is not a single person in TFG's administration who's acting like this is real.

It's all about keeping their profoundly, stupidly, emotionally-hysterical, globally-ignorant voters on the plantation.

If the Dim voters ever think for themselves for even
a second, it's all over. And the DNCe know it.



Plus...

Early OT:

Hilariously sad.

These people are ignorant idiots.

How do we keep losing to them? And what does that say about the brainpower of Republican'ts McConnell and Ryan?


http://motto.time.com/4623692/washington-post-male-symbol-womens-march-inauguration/


Via Insty.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2017 12:13 PM (vZ9Fw)

92 I recently hired "Mirror Mirror On the Wall Consultants" to give me an assessment of my physical beauty and -- wow! -- after a detailed investigation they informed me that I was "the fairest of them all"!
Posted by: zombie
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Thread Winner, zombie. Absolute, hands down, Thread Winner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 05, 2017 12:13 PM (ZO497)

93 I saw this last night and I don't know what to think about it. My first inclination is what the hell, the FBI itself lacks the capacity to make this analysis because that's information that's pretty damn important to know.

My next is to be wary of confirmation bias that because I find this whole attempt to conflate hacking the DNC server with hacking the election wink wink actual votes wink wink to be vile.


Also, I'm ready to throatpunch over the new hotness where saying excuse me there's no evidence, at all, that the Russians changed any vote totals means that I'm a commie sympathizer.

What. The. Actual. Bleeding. Hell.

Yeah, I'm not really down with the notion that my insistence upon rhetoric matching reality means I now suddenly support Putin.

Further also, riddle me this. The other new twist I've seen is well the Russians wanted to change opinions and that's interference with elections and YOU PUTIN LOVER YOU.

I accept, fully, that Putin was putting out information to try to influence people's views because that's what every freaking country on the planet does. If it's so vile, then I guess Voice of America was just evil as could be, now, wasn't it?

*throws things*

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 05, 2017 12:14 PM (mf5HN)

94
25 Russians hacked 4 black teens turning them violent. Via cellphone signals. And blinky gifs.
Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 05, 2017 12:03 PM (Om16U)

Cut the connection if you hear poetry.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 05, 2017 12:14 PM (FtrY1)

95 I'm done looking through this nonsense, but basically this company is a company that is devoted to foreign cyber espionage, specifically with Russians, and the CTO is a Russian ex-pat living in DC who does the speaker circuits all over the town.

He may even believe the Russians hacked the DNC, because that's his lifes work -- when youre holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail or whatever. It also proves that he was prescient in worrying about the Russian cyber threat as long as 8 years ago (the above linked video).

But he is far from an impartial person to be looking in to a situation like this.

I'm calling bullshit on this entire fucking story. Way to go, media, I did more research into the entire situation in 5 minutes then you did in 2 months.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:14 PM (WGxp4)

96
CNN: The Russians hacked the election and we have this video from Fallout 4 to prove it!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2017 12:14 PM (493sH)

97 I am proud to say I ran my administration on fake news for eight straight years and the voting public never figured it out!
Posted by: President For Life, Barackabamba
--------

Meh. It was easy.

Posted by: Ben Rhodes at January 05, 2017 12:14 PM (ZO497)

98 We were just hacked again. By Russians. By Chinese. And again. And again. And again.

map.norsecorp.com

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 05, 2017 12:15 PM (toH8T)

99 Epic embarrassment for the US and the Dem party. EPIC.

Posted by: Sponge at January 05, 2017 12:15 PM (dnQ1L)

100 This is the equivalnat to somebody paying who're to have sex with them and then going out an bragging that they just got laid.

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:15 PM (tPC7s)

101
I recently hired "Mirror Mirror On the Wall Consultants" to give me an assessment of my physical beauty and -- wow! -- after a detailed investigation they informed me that I was "the fairest of them all"!
Posted by: zombie


All is well until Snow Whitey shows up!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2017 12:15 PM (IqV8l)

102 Even proving the Russians hacked them does not prove that the Russians made them public. I could argue that they were more valuable to Putin if not made public.
Posted by: buzzsaw90
___________


I also think that is the smart take on it.

To blow your load with releasing them in large dumps is not how intelligence agencies operate.

Posted by: Maritime at January 05, 2017 12:15 PM (oRhb+)

103 Hahahahaha

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/253724/

-
The Washington Dumb As A Post.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 12:15 PM (Nwg0u)

104 86 Here's an Actual Thought. Is it possible that the emails were BOTH leaked and hacked?

The Russians hacked them cause that's what governments do. And around the same time, someone inside the DNC leaked them to wikileaks.

Even proving the Russians hacked them does not prove that the Russians made them public. I could argue that they were more valuable to Putin if not made public.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 05, 2017 12:12 PM (PNcou)

Yes, in fact, I sort of suspect that happened. According to the govt, 2 separate Russian organizations hacked the DNC unbeknownst to each other. (which could be total and utter bullshit) I think it's very possible that many, many people were reading DNC emails from both the inside and out. And it could be any number of people / organizations / state actors / losers living in their moms basements / DNC insiders / etc. who gave them to wikileaks.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:16 PM (WGxp4)

105 This is akin to the police obtaining a surveillance video clearly showing a murderer shoot someone at point-blank range -- but then the defense trying to get the tape tossed out as evidence because the cops didn't file the proper paperwork to get the video.

"The cops are trying to introduce illegal evidence!" goes the defense.

Of course, that evidence proves beyond any doubt that the killer is guilty. The jury (in this case, the American public) doesn't give a damn about the details of the paperwork -- the video speaks for itself. In this case, the "video" is the DNC emails which prove that the entire Democrat Party are evil immoral criminals. Who the fuck cares who leaked them?

Posted by: zombie at January 05, 2017 12:17 PM (jBuUi)

106 First, if you really cared about Russian hacking like you claim to do, you'd give the computers to the FBI so that they -- the actual counter-intelligence law enforcement agency of the US -- can hunt the bad guys down.
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Did I miss something or isn't the FBI responsible for internal to the US investigations? Wouldn't the CIA be responsible for this kind of "hacking" thing?
I know in reality it don't matter, but the FBI used to be statutorily restrained (turf wars and all that)

Your point stands Ace. Just wondering about the details, but we all know that this is just "fake news" ginned up by the DNC-MSM cabal, with an assist from weaponized government to create a meme that sticks with the stupid.

I'm only worried to the extent that Shit-Midas actually puts the security of the USA at risk in his last minute tough guy poses.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 12:17 PM (kKHcp)

107 @64

So far no one has come forward to dispute any of the information.

They thought they could rely on their associates and confederates in the MSM to bury it/obfuscate it.

They were wrong.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 05, 2017 12:17 PM (3Xxpy)

108 It gets better....

The guy who wrote all this for crowd source?

He also wrote that attacks against Electoral College members would happen...

He is one of Politico's top 50 POLITICAL players of 2016....

Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2017 12:17 PM (qf6WZ)

109 We can't find any Intent to deceive on the part of the DNC.

Sorry. But, without any clear Intent, no Career Prosecutor would pursue this.

Posted by: James Comey at January 05, 2017 12:17 PM (QAjcy)

110 I thought I was sufficiently jaded to filter out the complete hackery that is the MSM. I was wrong. Nothing they say can be trusted. You will understand the world better if you completely avoid the NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, etc.

Posted by: IanDeal at January 05, 2017 12:17 PM (teGBX)

111 as I listened to a bit of the dog and pony show presided over by Juan McLame, it occurred to me that NO ONE, in all the collective indignant huffing and puffing, DISPUTED ANYTHING related to these so-called 'hacks'. So the 'crime' here is OH MY GOD, THEY REVEALED THE UGLY TRUTH ABOUT THE DNC AND THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN.....

Posted by: the Butcher at January 05, 2017 12:17 PM (AGJqR)

112 I am sure NBC will get Meagain on it ASAP! She will get to the bottom of it.

Posted by: Paladin at January 05, 2017 12:18 PM (YNPwP)

113 One obvious take away from this?

The DNC went to the Hillary! Clinton School of Cyber-Security.

"One wipe!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2017 12:18 PM (tYHhZ)

114 Yes you were hacked by the Russians. Now we'd like to discuss our new Beartrap softeware that can protect you from these attacks in the future. A bargain at 3 bazillion dollars...

buy 2 get one more free

Posted by: Crowdstrike at January 05, 2017 12:18 PM (PNcou)

115 I think that Putin could have had a clear goal of undermining confidence in American elections (which has succeeded with 52% of Democrats thinking that Russia hacked actual voting machines).

Well *somebody* clearly had that goal. I would have thought it was the folks who started using the term "Election Hacking" in articles about phished/leaked emails.

Though if all those headlines really were part of Putin's plan, it would mean that the Washington Post, etc., were... what's the term again? "Outlets for Russian Propaganda."

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 05, 2017 12:19 PM (10LGw)

116 All is well until Snow Whitey shows up!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2017 12:15 PM (IqV8l)


Perfect

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 05, 2017 12:19 PM (Om16U)

117 I think that Putin could have had a clear goal of undermining confidence in American elections (which has succeeded with 52% of Democrats thinking that Russia hacked actual voting machines). That doesn't mean that we should attack Russia or anything, just that it's in the realm of possibility that it could have happened that way.

############

And in the last thread that pet theory was shot down by a number of people.

The emails didn't have anything at all to do with our voting process.

52% of Democrats would have said the election was stolen even if these emails didn't surface.

Posted by: Sebastian at January 05, 2017 12:19 PM (nq/J2)

118 That Keanu Reeves movie, Johnny Mnemonic? "Pretty good."

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 12:19 PM (8b+oT)

119 I'm calling bullshit on this entire fucking story. Way to go, media, I did more research into the entire situation in 5 minutes then you did in 2 months.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:14 PM (WGxp4)



Hey that's more research than WaPo did on the Russians hacked the US power grid story too.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 05, 2017 12:19 PM (mf5HN)

120 Russians publish truth while the American Propaganda Press publishes lies?!

Wow, I guess the Pulitzer goes to....

Posted by: The Pulitzer Committee at January 05, 2017 12:19 PM (LISuA)

121 Crowdstrike is endpoint protection and incident response. They can probably tell where the malware originated, but probably not who actually did it. Besides, that stuff is available, for free, pretty much anywhere you look. If I was going to phish you to get at your stuff, I'd probably use Russian malware too. To quote Blutarsky, "Don't cost nothin'"

Posted by: Lost My Cookies at January 05, 2017 12:20 PM (nMmK1)

122 It's a clown-show all around on the other side of the aisle

Posted by: The Donald at January 05, 2017 12:20 PM (DpOmP)

123 @106

You would think something like this would flow through and between the various layers of the FBI/NSA/CIA/DHS/ETC....

It's all bullshit.

All of these agencies are bullshit and have been corrupted and weaponized by the progressives and statists to the point that nothing can be trusted.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 05, 2017 12:20 PM (3Xxpy)

124 It's almost as if the MSM knew of the 160million dollar line item stuck in the NDAA ahead of tIme, titled Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation of 2017. And they know that it is never going away and funding will only increase each year.

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:20 PM (tPC7s)

125 That guy landing the Hindenburg? "Pretty good."

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 12:20 PM (8b+oT)

126 So Hillary's hard drive got Cheryl Crowed?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2017 12:20 PM (J+eG2)

127 Hacked, like with a machete?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2017 12:21 PM (ul9CR)

128 In our defense, we didn't have access to the DNC servers...they were in a pay toilet and the budget is kinda low

Posted by: FBI at January 05, 2017 12:21 PM (326rv)

129 so much invested in this theory they will just keep doubling down in the lies that be publicly humiliated.


Would that not require them have "shame"?



Shame...Shame...come back Shame!

Posted by: Paladin at January 05, 2017 12:21 PM (YNPwP)

130 127 Hacked, like with a machete?
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2017 12:21 PM (ul9CR)

"Not yet. Soon."

~ Guy with a machete

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 05, 2017 12:21 PM (8hICw)

131 I still say the hacker was a Nigerian prince.

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 12:22 PM (8b+oT)

132 Crowdstrike is endpoint protection and incident response. They can
probably tell where the malware originated, but probably not who
actually did it. Besides, that stuff is available, for free, pretty
much anywhere you look.

====

Ah. I see you have the machine that goes "BING!".

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 05, 2017 12:22 PM (toH8T)

133 The actual non fake news story is how much Obama has pushed this. I look forward to the press being interested in these things again.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 05, 2017 12:22 PM (P/gs9)

134 When I read about the carnage of WWI and the muddled reasoning behind it, I wonder how the countries involved could have allowed things to get to that point. When I listen to McCain and Miss Lindsay talk about Russia, I start to understand.

Posted by: Simon Gruber at January 05, 2017 12:23 PM (rX06+)

135 121 Crowdstrike is endpoint protection and incident response. They can probably tell where the malware originated, but probably not who actually did it. Besides, that stuff is available, for free, pretty much anywhere you look. If I was going to phish you to get at your stuff, I'd probably use Russian malware too. To quote Blutarsky, "Don't cost nothin'"
Posted by: Lost My Cookies at January 05, 2017 12:20 PM (nMmK1)

How could they possibly tell where it originated? This is my biggest problem with the "russians did it" theory. A state actor (or any kind of sophisticated'ish actor) would use proxies bouncing all over the world to hide their origin. It would be next to impossible to know where they really were located. This happens daily with identity thefts and DDos hacks on webpages. It's frustrating for the FBI and others because its nearly impossible to back track through the proxies to an actual, physical, IP address.

So if the Russian govt was involved, why would they use a Russian IP address in their proxy chain? I doubt they would.

So if a Russian IP address shows up somewhere, that makes me think it WASN'T the Russians at all.

Also, I doubt state actors are fucking around with basic phishing emails -- there's like a 1/1,000,000 chance of finding an email filter shitty enough to let it through and finding someone in govt stupid enough to click on the link and finding a network security appliance shitty enough to allow the link to be clicked.

Sounds more like identity thieves to me.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:23 PM (WGxp4)

136 117 And in the last thread that pet theory was shot down by a number of people.

The emails didn't have anything at all to do with our voting process.

52% of Democrats would have said the election was stolen even if these emails didn't surface.
Posted by: Sebastian at January 05, 2017 12:19 PM (nq/J2)

===================

Actually, the theory was side-stepped.

It literally doesn't matter that the emails had nothing to do with vote totals. People still believe it.

When you have half of a major party believing that the results of the election are the result of a foreign power hacking voting machines, then you have a successful undermining of our electoral system.

It doesn't take a genius to figure that the DNC and MSM would go hysterical at the results.

I swear, just the idea that Russia MIGHT have done this is sending people to weird places.

I still think it was most likely a leak, but Russia being behind it is in the realm of possibility.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:24 PM (/prE6)

137 The Russkies hacked Wiener's phone!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 12:24 PM (Nwg0u)

138 It sorta of reminds me of the time that the IRS, which spends billions of dollars a year on IT and data retention, claimed they just didn't back up or could find anything pertinent to Lois Lerner or anyone involved in the targeting of conservatives.

Too bad, so sad.

The entirety of the Federal Government and it's agencies and buearus are bullshit, corrupt and weaponized against us.

We could do without 75pct of it.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 05, 2017 12:24 PM (3Xxpy)

139 Veep had a storyline like this where the Chinese were blamed for a hacking attempt that was not really done by them.

Posted by: Harun at January 05, 2017 12:24 PM (UBBWX)

140 120 Hey that's more research than WaPo did on the Russians hacked the US power grid story too.

Hey, unfair -- the WaPo has layers and layers of fact-checkers. Case in point:

"Washington Post Express Puts Male Symbol on Women's Inauguration March Cover"

http://tinyurl.com/gusu6be


Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at January 05, 2017 12:24 PM (zke7T)

141 The bottom line is: whom can you trust? The era of The Ends Justify the Means is in full ascendancy. The narrative is the final word. All research is conducted to support the narrative. 24/7 campaign to brainwash the infidels. Who do you really trust?

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 05, 2017 12:24 PM (nQ10o)

142 132 Crowdstrike is endpoint protection and incident response. They can
probably tell where the malware originated, but probably not who
actually did it. Besides, that stuff is available, for free, pretty
much anywhere you look.

====

Ah. I see you have the machine that goes "BING!".
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 05, 2017 12:22 PM (toH8T)

They were wearing beer googles.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 05, 2017 12:25 PM (0mRoj)

143 I just got a great opportunity in the email. It starts out:

"I am a Nigerian Prince who recently came into possession of a great deal of money, which I would like to share with you..."

Posted by: John "Soon To Be Rich" Podesta at January 05, 2017 12:25 PM (LISuA)

144 When I read about the carnage of WWI and the muddled reasoning behind it, I wonder how the countries involved could have allowed things to get to that point. When I listen to McCain and Miss Lindsay talk about Russia, I start to understand.

-
Widespread dishonesty and stupidity?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 12:26 PM (Nwg0u)

145 The Nigerian Prince, one of Gaylord's many half-brothers?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2017 12:26 PM (tYHhZ)

146 I just sprang for the sixty bucks for two years of premium MalwareBytes, so I am probably better protected than the DNC.

Posted by: tu3031 at January 05, 2017 12:26 PM (qJhUV)

147 Here's an Actual Thought. Is it possible that the emails were BOTH leaked and hacked?

The Russians hacked them cause that's what governments do. And around the same time, someone inside the DNC leaked them to wikileaks.

Even proving the Russians hacked them does not prove that the Russians made them public. I could argue that they were more valuable to Putin if not made public.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 05, 2017 12:12 PM (PNcou)


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I don't think the Russians did anything. I'd like to see some fact or proof that they did.

What's that? It's just conjecture? Yes. Yes it is. Plus a lot of leftist agitprop.

Posted by: Soona at January 05, 2017 12:26 PM (Fmupd)

148 141 The bottom line is: whom can you trust? The era of The Ends Justify the Means is in full ascendancy. The narrative is the final word. All research is conducted to support the narrative. 24/7 campaign to brainwash the infidels. Who do you really trust?
Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 05, 2017 12:24 PM (nQ10o)

Trust none of the media. Assume everything they say is bullshit. If you want to know the truth on a certain story, do your own research. We're blessed to have access to original sources and plenty of other information thanks to the internet.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:26 PM (WGxp4)

149 I still think it was most likely a leak, but Russia being behind it is in the realm of possibility.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Follow the chemtrails, man.

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 12:26 PM (8b+oT)

150 Seriously.


For those not in the IT security biz?

Take a look at this map. (You gotta allow Javascript, sorry.)


http://map.norsecorp.com/#/


The only reasons these pols are suddenly interested in 'hacking' is that their re-elections and sinecures are potentially jeopardized as well as their gerry-mandered districts.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 05, 2017 12:27 PM (toH8T)

151 And this is why Pres Trump needs to keep his twitter acct active - it's a direct line to what he's really doing, completely unfiltered by our "betters" who want to push their fake news.

It must really burn those twitter guys that their platform is enabling their foe.

Posted by: Boots at January 05, 2017 12:27 PM (0E+WY)

152 un-fucking-believable..

I'm sure this story will be splashed on the front page of all the liberal blogs.. i'll go check..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 05, 2017 12:27 PM (so+oy)

153 Tucker Carlson getting MeAgain's timeslot.

http://tinyurl.com/zaoglvf

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2017 12:27 PM (O7MnT)

154 Hey, unfair -- the WaPo has layers and layers of fact-checkers. Case in point:

"Washington Post Express Puts Male Symbol on Women's Inauguration March Cover"

http://tinyurl.com/gusu6be

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Russians hacked the Pa-Po's cover artist. OBVIOUSLY.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 05, 2017 12:28 PM (Om16U)

155 Today's Senate hearing is a joke. No specifics as to what the Russians are supposed to have done, but everyone falling all over themselves praising "the intelligence community". Lindsay Graham was practically calling for war with Russia, and Krazy Kaine wants this to be the new Watergate. Pathetic.

Posted by: Dav at January 05, 2017 12:28 PM (cct0t)

156 149 Follow the chemtrails, man.
Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 12:26 PM (8b+oT)

======================

"I most likely agree with everyone here about the DNC's emails, but since I don't have any actual evidence in any direction, I leave open the possibility that another theory could be true." =/= "Chemtrails!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:28 PM (/prE6)

157 The Russkies hacked Wiener's phone!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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I hacked my husband's wiener!

Posted by: Lorena Bobbitt at January 05, 2017 12:28 PM (8b+oT)

158 Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 05, 2017 12:27 PM (toH8T)

Right, right. But that map shows the IP addresses from whence the attack originated. Which are almost all proxy IPs.

If you look at the free proxies online, US, Sweden, Russia, and the UK seem to be the most popular. Probably because its easier to hide a proxy IP site in a country with a shit ton of IP addresses. And Sweden has strict privacy laws.

Those attacks really could be originating ANYWHERE with internet access on the planet by ANYONE.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:28 PM (WGxp4)

159 147 "Here's an Actual Thought. Is it possible that the emails were BOTH leaked and hacked? "


I don't think there is any argument that Wikileaks released the Podesta emails. The only question is who supplied those emails to Wikileaks.

Posted by: jwest at January 05, 2017 12:29 PM (Zs4uk)

160 158 Those attacks really could be originating ANYWHERE with internet access on the planet by ANYONE.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:28 PM (WGxp4)

===================

"Which means Russia is definitely off the table."
-Some people

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:29 PM (/prE6)

161 How does the phrasing go: I'm not saying that Podesta and the DNC were not hacked by the Russians. But I am saying that if your campaign chair is dumb enough to reply to a phishing email with all of his login information anyone could have gotten access to your emails.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 05, 2017 12:29 PM (Jen0I)

162 >>Here's an Actual Thought. Is it possible that the emails were BOTH leaked and hacked?


Sure.
What's even more likely is that Russia (and other enemies of America) hacked Hillary's unsecured home-brew email server, but hey, if that's not a big deal, than I can't be bothered with the DNC email hack, amirite????

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:29 PM (NOIQH)

163 There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 12:30 PM (Nwg0u)

164 57 Someone explain to me why I should care about the source of the info as long as the content appears to be genuine?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 05, 2017 12:09 PM (KUaJL)



This.

And the DNC has NEVER (to my knowledge) ever disputed the authenticity of the emails, merely their provenance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 05, 2017 12:30 PM (SRKgf)

165 I really think the true answer is: Nobody has any fucking idea who "hacked" or leaked the DNC emails except Wikileaks and the dude(s) who did the "hacking" / leaking.

Everything beyond that is bullshit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:30 PM (WGxp4)

166 the russians were responsible for that engine falling off that b-52. they are getting craftier than the jooooooooos.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 05, 2017 12:30 PM (KP5rU)

167 BREAKING: Seth Rich murderer still not found!

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at January 05, 2017 12:31 PM (2x9LM)

168 Just as a stunt, I'd love to deliver a case of small batch Texas vodka to the Russian embassy to "Thank President Putin for saving us from Hillary Clinton."

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2017 12:31 PM (O7MnT)

169 How could they possibly tell where it originated? This is my biggest problem with the "russians did it" theory

===

The APT malware generally communicates with a Command and Control Server.

The best that you could hope for would be to find that the Cand C server was leased to "Vladimir Digitovski" and paid for with his VISA card.

Even then , who knows who might have stolen the card number? And that proves nothing about who planted the malware and from where.


It's.

All.

Bullsh1t.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 05, 2017 12:31 PM (toH8T)

170 I don't think there is any argument that Wikileaks released the Podesta emails. The only question is who supplied those emails to Wikileaks.

Posted by: jwest at January 05, 2017 12:29 PM (Zs4uk)

Dead men don't talk. Just sayin

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 12:31 PM (kKHcp)

171 It's almost as if the MSM knew of the 160million dollar line item stuck in the NDAA ahead of tIme, titled Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation of 2017. And they know that it is never going away and funding will only increase each year.

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:20 PM (tPC7s)




I would not at all be surprised to discover that there has been money allocated for "grants" to MSM organizations.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2017 12:31 PM (uiwCw)

172 Still haven't seen any evidence that Russians fabricated the emails. Or manipulated vote totals. Or anything other than release embarrassing emails. Plus, they were hacks the RNC computers were able to stop.

What a bunch of pathetic whining.

Posted by: brak at January 05, 2017 12:31 PM (guIHw)

173 Right, right. But that map shows the IP addresses from whence the attack originated. Which are almost all proxy IPs.

==

Exactly.

(agreeing with you here, Harry.)

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 05, 2017 12:32 PM (toH8T)

174 165 I really think the true answer is: Nobody has any fucking idea who "hacked" or leaked the DNC emails except Wikileaks and the dude(s) who did the "hacking" / leaking.

Everything beyond that is bullshit.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:30 PM (WGxp4)

Seth Rich. Assange has strongly hinted that it was him. We will never know because Seth was murdered in cold blood in DC, unexpectingly of course.

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:32 PM (tPC7s)

175
It doesn't take a genius to figure that the DNC and MSM would go hysterical at the results.

I swear, just the idea that Russia MIGHT have done this is sending people to weird places.

I still think it was most likely a leak, but Russia being behind it is in the realm of possibility.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

######

Sure, it was all about making Bernie supporting Democrats mad. That's Russia's number one goal in geopolitics.

Also, why would Russia want to undermine our voting process if Trump was indeed an ally they wanted to work with?

It seems to me to cast him as illegitimate would be self-defeating.

The whole theory just doesn't hold up to basic scrutiny which is why people are calling the MSM out on it.

It's just liberal propaganda, they can't except that they lost an election so they make up an omnipotent boogieman and pretend we cheated.

Posted by: Sebastian at January 05, 2017 12:32 PM (nq/J2)

176
obama's FBI...

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 05, 2017 12:33 PM (5RE4Y)

177 @155

Praise for what?

The intelligence community has failed and failed spectacularly for the last 30+ years, having failed to or stop some pretty major events, the collapse of the Soviet Union, 9/11 and Iraq WMD to name just a few.

They are bullshit artists and fuckups the lot of them.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 05, 2017 12:33 PM (3Xxpy)

178
Soon it will be The People's FBI...

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 05, 2017 12:33 PM (5RE4Y)

179 Think about this.

There could be a hack (from an identity thief) of Podesta's and Hillary's emails and also a leak. With the lax security and the utter corruption, arrogance and shall we say, "bitchy" behavior from within the DNC, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (8b+oT)

180 Oh please. The moment I heard that idiot Obama say the Russians "hacked the DNC" I knew it was utter bullshit. The problem, if you will, is that these people have no understanding or knowledge of IT, networks, hacking and so forth, whatsoever. Sure they know a few buzzwords they've heard on TV, but other than that, clueless.

If the Russians or whomever had indeed "hacked the DNC", that is, gained access to their LAN, their servers, users' workstations (that's their "PC's", to the uninitiated) and the data contained therein, we would have damn sure heard about it by now. Think of all the political strategy information, donor lists, you name it, they could have accessed, if indeed the DNC's computer facilities had been hacked. It. Didn't. Fucking. Happen.

If you actually look at what Wikileaks put out there, it is quite clear that what DID happen was Jon Podesta's (another flaming computer illiterate) Gmail account was penetrated. Period.

And if Assange can be believed, it was so easily "hacked" because Podesta, Democrat and idiot (but I repeat myself) used "password" as his password on that email account. And yes, I have seen this done countless times. People will use "password", or "ABC123", or "123456", simple combinations that a 12 year old could guess. Happens all the time.

All fake news, all the time. Thanks, MSM...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (tHocv)

181
Thank Christ Donald Trump will be president and not hillary clinton.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (5RE4Y)

182 our government, "there's a boogeyman behind evry tree." here's a hint, you assholes, you are the boogeyman.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (KP5rU)

183 I would not at all be surprised to discover that there has been money allocated for "grants" to MSM organizations.
Posted by: Country Singer
---------

Well, I have provided millions of $ to NPR.

Posted by: George Soros at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (ZO497)

184 @167---hmmm

btw, didn't he still have his watch, wallet, etc on his dead body?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (kKHcp)

185 175 Sure, it was all about making Bernie supporting Democrats mad. That's Russia's number one goal in geopolitics.

Also, why would Russia want to undermine our voting process if Trump was indeed an ally they wanted to work with?

It seems to me to cast him as illegitimate would be self-defeating.

The whole theory just doesn't hold up to basic scrutiny which is why people are calling the MSM out on it.

It's just liberal propaganda, they can't except that they lost an election so they make up an omnipotent boogieman and pretend we cheated.
Posted by: Sebastian at January 05, 2017 12:32 PM (nq/J2)

=====================

I think that if Russia did it, which I'm not as inclined to believe as a leak, that their goal was to have America concern itself with internal matters, allowing Russia more flexibility in its own sphere of influence.

Hacking an idiot's account and releasing it online seems like a small investment for that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (/prE6)

186 Daily Kos is "All Russia-All The Time". They are calling out all the Reds in the White House, loudly and with malice. It seems Russia is our greatest geo-political threat.

Now, where have I heard that before.....

Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (LISuA)

187 The APT malware generally communicates with a Command and Control Server.

The best that you could hope for would be to find that the Cand C server was leased to "Vladimir Digitovski" and paid for with his VISA card.

Even then , who knows who might have stolen the card number? And that proves nothing about who planted the malware and from where.


It's.

All.

Bullsh1t.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 05, 2017 12:31 PM (toH8T)

Yup... the only way you really catch bad actors, is you follow the money trail when they go for the pay off.... which is why the US Gov has gone so hard against Bit Coins...

But in this, there is no money involved... just data that could get rerouted multiple times.

Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (qf6WZ)

188 "I don't think there is any argument that Wikileaks released the Podesta emails. The only question is who supplied those emails to Wikileaks.

Posted by: jwest at January 05, 2017 12:29 PM (Zs4uk) "

so we the American people can thank them is my take

Posted by: DanMan at January 05, 2017 12:35 PM (aZqu2)

189 172 Still haven't seen any evidence that Russians fabricated the emails. Or manipulated vote totals. Or anything other than release embarrassing emails. Plus, they were hacks the RNC computers were able to stop.

What a bunch of pathetic whining.
Posted by: brak at January 05, 2017 12:31 PM (guIHw)

The trick is conflating two things that are separate -- the election and the hacking of the DNC. The Russians may or may not have hacked the DNC, but doing so didn't directly affect the vote. No voting machines were hacked, no vote totals were directly changed.

(Now, could it have been a dezinformatsiya operation? Sure. But it wouldn't have worked if the information about DNC corruption hadn't been there to hack.)

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at January 05, 2017 12:35 PM (RD7QR)

190 Damn I type too slow.

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 12:35 PM (8b+oT)

191
If someone told you, way back in 1997, that in twenty years our republic just might have a chance of being salvaged by none other than Donald Trump, what would you have thought?

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 05, 2017 12:35 PM (5RE4Y)

192 175 I swear, just the idea that Russia MIGHT have done this is sending people to weird places.
====================

Done what?

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (LISuA)

193 Obama is restarting the cold war because Podesta was an idiot.

Posted by: Lauren at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (vkB8G)

194 I am still trying to wrap my head around how that Minot based B-52H literally lost an engine since the engines are mounted two to a pod. All I can think of is the lower engine nacelle access panel was not fully secured, popped open in flight with a bang the crew might have heard, and took the TF-33 engine with it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (tYHhZ)

195 >>And the DNC has NEVER (to my knowledge) ever disputed the authenticity of the emails, merely their provenance.



Sure they have!

Acting DNC head Donna Brazile got in an on-air scuffle with MeAgain Kelly when she insisted that her emails leaking debate question were faked. There have been other people in the Clinton campaign team who have called the leaked emails (Podesta's and DNC's) faked/altered.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (NOIQH)

196 189 The trick is conflating two things that are separate -- the election and the hacking of the DNC. The Russians may or may not have hacked the DNC, but doing so didn't directly affect the vote. No voting machines were hacked, no vote totals were directly changed.

(Now, could it have been a dezinformatsiya operation? Sure. But it wouldn't have worked if the information about DNC corruption hadn't been there to hack.)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at January 05, 2017 12:35 PM (RD7QR)

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Which lends some limited support to my holding onto Russia as a possible, but not most likely, suspect.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (/prE6)

197 Obama: 'We Cannot Deny the Legacy of Racism' in the Justice System

http://tinyurl.com/j3l9lux

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Word.

Posted by: SMFH for the poor white kid in Chicago at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (CRotO)

198
buy My ficking Pillow or I'll have you killed!!

Posted by: Mike Lindel -- My Pillow at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (5RE4Y)

199 186 Daily Kos is "All Russia-All The Time". They are calling out all the Reds in the White House, loudly and with malice. It seems Russia is our greatest geo-political threat.

Now, where have I heard that before.....
Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (LISuA)

Nah.... never been done before...

Posted by: Joseph McCarthy at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (qf6WZ)

200 My password was milkofthepenis.

Posted by: John Podesta at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (tPC7s)

201 the clowns who use fake e-mail addresses, who use gmail and yahoo for Christ's sake, who think that an e-mail domain of '@shithouse.com' is dreammmy, have no problems with Hillary lecturing the peasants about cyber security, or an e-mail trove owned by a prevert should be listened to to about matters concerning anything more complex than cans and waxed string?

Posted by: FBI at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (326rv)

202 108 It gets better....

The guy who wrote all this for crowd source?

He also wrote that attacks against Electoral College members would happen...

He is one of Politico's top 50 POLITICAL players of 2016....
Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2017 12:17 PM (qf6WZ)

Along with the guy who owns Comet Pizza, right?

Posted by: josephistan at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (7HtZB)

203 192 Done what?
Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (LISuA)

====================

Hacked Posdesta and the DNC and given them to Assange.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (/prE6)

204 Were Clapper and Brennan under oath for today's testimony?

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (nFdGS)

205 Hacking an idiot's account and releasing it online seems like a small investment for that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

#######

It goes well beyond a single idiot getting hacked if you're going to give credence to what Obama and the MSM are saying about how Russia got involved.

Posted by: Sebastian at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (nq/J2)

206 186 Daily Kos is "All Russia-All The Time". They are calling out all the Reds in the White House, loudly and with malice. It seems Russia is our greatest geo-political threat.

maybe they'll ask Bernie the Bolshevik if the honeymoon is over.....

Posted by: Red Hen at January 05, 2017 12:38 PM (326rv)

207 *waves to SMFH*

How are you doing?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2017 12:38 PM (tYHhZ)

208 Donna Brazile, as acting chair of DNC, claims wikileaks "doctored" the emails:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hegbylb

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:38 PM (NOIQH)

209 Did Clapper just admit under oath they have zero evidence that the Russians hacked anything?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 05, 2017 12:38 PM (icl5y)

210 At this rate maybe by 2050 the left will think that islam is a threat.

Posted by: josephistan at January 05, 2017 12:38 PM (7HtZB)

211 Sure they have!

Acting DNC head Donna
Brazile got in an on-air scuffle with MeAgain Kelly when she insisted
that her emails leaking debate question were faked. There have been
other people in the Clinton campaign team who have called the leaked
emails (Podesta's and DNC's) faked/altered.


Posted by: Lizzy
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Brazile was so pathetic her claims were shut down in days. She's the highest level person to "go there" and I think everyone else got the memo to just shut the eff up.

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 12:38 PM (8b+oT)

212 They don't care and never have. Politics first and the country and it's peons be damned.

As Ace wrote - did they show this much outrage and angst when China actually hacked OPM?

Posted by: Cheri at January 05, 2017 12:39 PM (oiNtH)

213 Obama writing 56 pages of anything is the definition of fake news. It's laughable. Ha!

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:39 PM (tPC7s)

214 205 It goes well beyond a single idiot getting hacked if you're going to give credence to what Obama and the MSM are saying about how Russia got involved.
Posted by: Sebastian at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (nq/J2)

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That's not what I'm doing. You seem to be conflating me saying Russia got into Podesta's account and gave the results of that to Assange as that I believe everything that the Obama Administration is saying and implying.

No, I'm not.

I'm saying, quite simply, it's possible that Russia got into Podesta's account and gave that information to Assange.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:39 PM (/prE6)

215 Obama: 'We Cannot Deny the Legacy of Racism' in the Justice System

http://tinyurl.com/j3l9lux

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Word.

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If we lynched Holder and held Lynch in custody, that'd be a good start.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 12:39 PM (Nwg0u)

216 Well, if the DNC says they were hacked by the Rooskies it must be true. They would never tell a lie.

Posted by: Hank at January 05, 2017 12:39 PM (JzPCB)

217 buy My ficking Pillow or I'll have you killed!!
Posted by: Mike Lindel
------

Yeah, that 'National Sleep Foundation' isn't what most people think it is.

Posted by: The Black Hand Society at January 05, 2017 12:40 PM (ZO497)

218 Given that the intelligence services of the US government interfere with elections the world over, a parsimonious explanation is that they had decided to take it to the domestic realm.

Which, if so, is much more frightening than the Russian thing

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 05, 2017 12:40 PM (GGQLa)

219 Well, this certainly demonstrates that Obama has a lot more flexibility.

He can blame more people for his failures and general incompetence.

#WINNING!!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at January 05, 2017 12:40 PM (RFeQD)

220 If someone told you, way back in 1997, that in twenty years our republic just might have a chance of being salvaged by none other than Donald Trump, what would you have thought?
Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 05, 2017 12:35 PM (5RE4Y)

1) Time for you to go to rehab.
b/ That if we're putting our hopes on him, it's too late to be salvaged.
III: Mebbe I'll be dead by then.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 12:40 PM (kKHcp)

221 It would be nice if our end of the media took a few minutes to remind everyone what we're talking about...


In the last few weeks of the election, emails belonging to John Podesta were leaked that showed that people in the DNC and Hillary Clinton's campaign corruptly coordinated to insure Bernie Sanders didn't win the democrat primary.

All the information released was never disputed as true.

Hillary supporters want to blame the Russians.

Our side should be asking questions like this:

"If Great Britain or Canada come upon information of corruption in one of our political parties, should they make it public or hide it?"

"If the Russians had uncovered true evidence of Donald Trump rigging a Miss Universe contest, should that information be made public or hidden?"


Posted by: jwest at January 05, 2017 12:40 PM (Zs4uk)

222 Acting DNC head Donna Brazile got in an on-air scuffle with MeAgain Kelly when she insisted that her emails leaking debate question were faked.
============================

Did she, Lizzy? I recall it slightly differently, in that Brazille kept referring to her emails as unconfirmed or unverified or something. Every time MeAgain tried to pin her down she said she couldn't recall but she didn't think she's ever something like that so it sounded like bullshit to her.

Slippery quasi-denial, but not claiming "fake!", is how I thought the interview went down.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2017 12:41 PM (LISuA)

223 Isn't funny how the Left held Russia in higher regard when they had gulags and a body count higher than Nazi Germany?

And it was the Right that was needlessly antagonistic?

Posted by: Maritime at January 05, 2017 12:41 PM (oRhb+)

224 OT: Craftsman tools have been junk for a decade or more but here's hoping for them being strong again.
Sears is selling the name to Stanley/Black and Decker..

Posted by: IP at January 05, 2017 12:41 PM (4byLl)

225 209 Did Clapper just admit under oath they have zero evidence that the Russians hacked anything?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 05, 2017 12:38 PM (icl5y)

Let's hope that Clapper's decided not to go down with that particular leaky scow.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at January 05, 2017 12:41 PM (RD7QR)

226 >>Brazile was so pathetic her claims were shut down in days. She's the
highest level person to "go there" and I think everyone else got the
memo to just shut the eff up.


Agreed.
But let's stop saying no one in the DNC has denied the veracity of the leaked emails. That was their *first* defense, before they started blaming Russia. Heck, they were claiming "fake" before Assange even started leaking - they tried to prep the battlespace in response to Assange sending "the bombshell emails are coming soon!" tweets. Said they were fake before they even saw 'em.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (NOIQH)

227 It's pretty amusing that ace.mu.nu has better cyber security than the DNC.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (P/gs9)

228 221 "If Great Britain or Canada come upon information of corruption in one of our political parties, should they make it public or hide it?"

"If the Russians had uncovered true evidence of Donald Trump rigging a Miss Universe contest, should that information be made public or hidden?"


Posted by: jwest at January 05, 2017 12:40 PM (Zs4uk)

======================

Rename is the BBC instead of Great Britain.

They love the BBC, it's a news organization, but it's also completely owned by the British government.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (/prE6)

229 Hacked Posdesta and the DNC and given them to Assange.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Assange and a former British Ambassador say that's not what happened at all. They say it was from leaking, not hacking. The former British Ambassador claims to have met the leaker and says he just happens to not be Russian.

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (8b+oT)

230 Also, I doubt state actors are fucking around with basic phishing emails -- there's like a 1/1,000,000 chance of finding an email filter shitty enough to let it through and finding someone in govt stupid enough to click on the link and finding a network security appliance shitty enough to allow the link to be clicked.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:23 PM (WGxp4)




Here's what I can say: "they" (I cannot be specific) do use phishing emails...and it works. However, they don't often target .gov/.mil domain email addys.


"...finding a network security appliance shitty enough to allow the link to be clicked..."


Use of non-official email (e.g. gmail, yahoo, hotmail, etc) is shockingly rampant, and the addresses are relatively easy to get.


"...finding someone in govt stupid enough to click on the link..."


Yeah, that's actually pretty easy.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (uiwCw)

231 Let's hope that Clapper's decided not to go down with that particular leaky scow.

Is that anyway to describe Hillary!? *pauses* Yes it is.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (tYHhZ)

232 Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 05, 2017 12:31 PM (toH8T)

Right, but even that would be hidden behind proxies. And there are tons of services online to give anonymity to who registered what webpage and how it was paid for.

Even identity thieves are smart enough to pay shady webpages in bitcoin to register domains and use fake names for any fake webpage they make up.

I mean, cmon now. The media and politicians are playing us all for fools. They really think we're this stupid, and it drives me nuts.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (WGxp4)

233 If someone told you, way back in 1997, that in twenty years our republic just might have a chance of being salvaged by none other than Donald Trump, what would you have thought?

-
It's like Pee Wee Herman killing Hitler.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (Nwg0u)

234
That's not what I'm doing. You seem to be conflating me saying Russia got into Podesta's account and gave the results of that to Assange as that I believe everything that the Obama Administration is saying and implying.

No, I'm not.

I'm saying, quite simply, it's possible that Russia got into Podesta's account and gave that information to Assange.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
__________


You're the one saying that Putin is doing this to undermine our faith in US elections and that it's working.


Posted by: Sebastian at January 05, 2017 12:43 PM (nq/J2)

235 230
"...finding someone in govt stupid enough to click on the link..."


Yeah, that's actually pretty easy.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (uiwCw)

======================

"People in government are really dumb!"
-2016

"People in government are way too smart to fall for a phishing email!"
-2017

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:43 PM (/prE6)

236 Hey Anna!

I'm doing okay, surprisingly enough.

Just got back from Silver City, NM.

Forgotten how much I love mountains.

Posted by: SMFH for the poor white kid in Chicago at January 05, 2017 12:43 PM (CRotO)

237 Dems acting like Dems??

Who Knew!!??

Posted by: dananjcon at January 05, 2017 12:43 PM (NpXoL)

238 184 @167---hmmm

btw, didn't he still have his watch, wallet, etc on his dead body?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 12:34 PM (kKHcp)

Yep. And smart phone. 2 hour window from when he left the bar at 2am until he was shot at 4am.

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at January 05, 2017 12:43 PM (wo3jg)

239 It's like Pee Wee Herman killing Hitler.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (Nwg0u)
_______________________________________


with a spork

Posted by: IP at January 05, 2017 12:43 PM (4byLl)

240 I haven't seen any news reports of Trump commenting on that hideous black gang assault on the disabled Chicago man.

Good for Trump for staying quiet. Must be quite tempting for him, given that the poor victim was assaulted by the racist black thugs because of his presumed support of Trump (on the basis of having white skin).

We all know Barky couldn't wait to run in front of the t.v. cameras and make inappropriate comments on cases that were still under investigation when one of the alleged victims was a black person (Skippy Gates, Trayvon Martin, etc.).

So good for Trump for showing restraint. He's already shown more class as president-elect than Obama showed as president.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2017 12:44 PM (riF5p)

241 My guess is the DNC guy that gave the files to Wikileaks has a Russian name.

Heck the DNC can do Clintonian parsing "the Russian is responsible....see"?

And again, most of the shared information shows that Hillary Clinton and her allies cheated to win the Democrat primary...which is exactly what would come from an angry Berniebot

Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2017 12:44 PM (X7E8f)

242 Obama: 'We Cannot Deny the Legacy of Racism' in the Justice System

http://tinyurl.com/j3l9lux

---

Word.

Posted by: SMFH for the poor white kid in Chicago at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (CRotO)




Odd how Barry has nothing to say about that kid. He must have a full schedule and will get to it when he has some free time

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2017 12:44 PM (493sH)

243 I can almost see Obama looking over the shoulder of an IT lackey while demanding he enhance and zoomify.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 05, 2017 12:44 PM (P/gs9)

244 195 >>And the DNC has NEVER (to my knowledge) ever disputed the authenticity of the emails, merely their provenance.
Sure they have!
Acting DNC head Donna Brazile got in an on-air scuffle with MeAgain Kelly when she insisted that her emails leaking debate question were faked. There have been other people in the Clinton campaign team who have called the leaked emails (Podesta's and DNC's) faked/altered.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (NOIQH)



I stand corrected.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 05, 2017 12:45 PM (SRKgf)

245 Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (uiwCw)

This is the Nigerian Prince-level "hacking."

Most corporate networks (and even gmail) are pretty good at filtering these kind of phishing emails out. Most of the victims of these scams are old ladies with no idea on how the internet works.

Most of us know to never provide your personal information or password to a random email seemingly from your bank or email provider. If you think you need to reset your password, you don't click a shady bitly link in an email you click the "settings" button in gmail and change it right there or navigate your browser to bankofamerica.com or whatever and reset it there.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:45 PM (WGxp4)

246 It's like Pee Wee Herman killing Hitler.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


PeeWee Herman killed Hitler?

Hitler is dead?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at January 05, 2017 12:45 PM (RFeQD)

247 Regarding Clapper, wasn't there a report that CIA was massaging CIA data so it conformed with Obama's "world view".

Posted by: WisRich at January 05, 2017 12:45 PM (hdpay)

248 234
You're the one saying that Putin is doing this to undermine our faith in US elections and that it's working.


Posted by: Sebastian at January 05, 2017 12:43 PM (nq/J2)

=====================

I'm saying that if Putin has done it, then that's his most likely goal.

Also, how many times do I have to say that because of the entirely predictable reaction the MSM has had to the hacking of a Democratic official, 52% of Democrats actually believe that vote totals were changed by hacking? IF Putin's goal was to do that, then it's easy to see that he knocked over the first domino that led to this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:45 PM (/prE6)

249 And again, most of the shared information shows that Hillary Clinton and her allies cheated to win the Democrat primary...which is exactly what would come from an angry Berniebot

Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2017 12:44 PM (X7E8f)



That's the front-running conjecture in my mind.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 05, 2017 12:46 PM (SRKgf)

250 Glad you are doing better SMFH. Now I must scoot to get ready for work. Picked up an extra shift in a new department since someone quit. Yay all hail the paycheck. Take care okay?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2017 12:46 PM (tYHhZ)

251 243 I can almost see Obama looking over the shoulder of an IT lackey while demanding he enhance and zoomify.
Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 05, 2017 12:44 PM (P/gs9)

Don't forget the '90s techno music in the background.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at January 05, 2017 12:46 PM (RD7QR)

252 Heheheh...The Trump-Putin meet-up is gonna be full of hearty guffaws and knee slaps.

The DNC is laughing stock, what a bunch of putz'


Posted by: dananjcon at January 05, 2017 12:46 PM (NpXoL)

253 I mean, cmon now. The media and politicians are playing us all for fools. They really think we're this stupid, and it drives me nuts.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

To be fair, you were nearly stupid enough to elect Hillary, so we had that going for us.

Posted by: the media and the politicians at January 05, 2017 12:46 PM (326rv)

254 Obama writing 56 pages of anything is the definition of fake news. It's laughable. Ha!

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:39 PM (tPC7s)

What if he makes 56 entries for that NCAA tournament perfect bracket contest?

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 05, 2017 12:46 PM (nFdGS)

255 It's also interesting to note that our "fuck you, war" means we're playing by their rules in our political lives now, and their "fuck you, war" means they'll start an actual war with another country.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 05, 2017 12:46 PM (P/gs9)

256 >>Slippery quasi-denial, but not claiming "fake!", is how I thought the interview went down.

Here's what she said to Megyn Kelly - didn't send, "doctored" and "not been verified":

"I have seen so many doctored emails. I have seen things that come from
me at 2 in the morning that I don't even send. There are several email
addresses that I once used...This has not been verified,"

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:46 PM (NOIQH)

257 "People in government are really dumb!"
-2016

"People in government are way too smart to fall for a phishing email!"
-2017
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:43 PM (/prE6)

Well, maybe I'm giving too much credit here, but c'mon! 10-15 years ago, people fell for these silly scams.

Nowadays it's much less common. You'd have to be a real doofus to fall for it, whether you work for the govt or not.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:47 PM (WGxp4)

258 I'm saying, quite simply, it's possible that Russia got into Podesta's account and gave that information to Assange.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:39 PM (/prE6)


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Please show me anything that would even raise suspicions for your waffling on this. Just point me to a source that isn't part of the MFM, DNC, or Washington DC establishment. Because that's where all of this is coming from.

It's all bullshit foisted on us by whiny little shitheads that are pissed that Trump won.

Posted by: Soona at January 05, 2017 12:47 PM (Fmupd)

259 As Ace wrote - did they show this much outrage and angst when China actually hacked OPM?
Posted by: Cheri at January 05, 2017 12:39 PM (oiNtH)

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*AHEM*

Not a hack when you leave the keys to the kingdom still in the door...

Posted by: SMFH at January 05, 2017 12:47 PM (CRotO)

260 It's like Pee Wee Herman killing Hitler

++++

GUYS I'm TRYING to assassinate!!!1!
huh heh

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at January 05, 2017 12:47 PM (GGQLa)

261 Yep. And smart phone...
---

I just upgraded from a flip-brick to the cheapest smart phone, so I'm still getting used to the idea that a phone is a prime robbery "get".

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 12:48 PM (kKHcp)

262 222 Did she, Lizzy? I recall it slightly differently, in that Brazille kept referring to her emails as unconfirmed or unverified or something. Every time MeAgain tried to pin her down she said she couldn't recall but she didn't think she's ever something like that so it sounded like bullshit to her.

Slippery quasi-denial, but not claiming "fake!", is how I thought the interview went down.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2017 12:41 PM (LISuA)
------------------------------------

There's a way to verify if an electronic document has been changed as it gets forwarded or copied, and those who are more computer savvy than I am can explain further, but according to analysis done on those emails they had not been changed.

Apparently in the run up to the 2016 election, Julian Assange released some information that was to be fully released in case something happened to him, and it involved comparing strings between documents.

Posted by: Boots at January 05, 2017 12:48 PM (0E+WY)

263 The only "real" leaksh are in my Dependzzz.

* stumbles, falls, vomits *

Posted by: DistHillary at January 05, 2017 12:48 PM (77i7V)

264 Notice she never specifically denies the accuracy of these emails or disputes they come from her.

Donna Brazille:

"I have seen so many doctored emails. I have seen things that come from me at 2 in the morning that I don't even send. There are several email addresses that I once used. ... This has not been verified," she said, going so far as to say "as a Christian woman" she understands "persecution" and would not stand for it."

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2017 12:48 PM (LISuA)

265 I'll put it this way: if I was the Russian govt, I would not rely on shitty email filters, shitty web filters, and dummy dumb dumbs to open stupid phishing emails and click on stupid phishing links to unsecured sites to input their personal information for my foreign espionage.

I would not think that would be the best use of my time, and I would not expect to get a lot of info that way.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems so... unsophisticated.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:48 PM (WGxp4)

266 To be fair, you were nearly stupid enough to elect Hillary, so we had that going for us.
Posted by: the media and the politicians at January 05, 2017 12:46 PM (326rv)



Not to mention me--twice.

Posted by: Obama at January 05, 2017 12:48 PM (ujg0T)

267 258 Please show me anything that would even raise suspicions for your waffling on this. Just point me to a source that isn't part of the MFM, DNC, or Washington DC establishment. Because that's where all of this is coming from.

It's all bullshit foisted on us by whiny little shitheads that are pissed that Trump won.
Posted by: Soona at January 05, 2017 12:47 PM (Fmupd)

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Have you read anything I've written today?

I think it was most likely a leak from inside the DNC. I'm far from sold on the theory, but until we have actual proof in front of us of one way or another, all we have is second and third hand information.

It's possible (POSSIBLE, not likely, not probable, not certain, but POSSIBLE) that Russia did this, and dismissing it out of hand, without any evidence one way or another, is silly.

Plus, just a couple of years ago didn't we all think that Assange was a Russian stooge?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:49 PM (/prE6)

268 I read somewhere about a year ago that the Russian diplomats and Intel angencies.... Well it sounded like the whole government was transitioning back to typewriters.

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:49 PM (tPC7s)

269 Deny deny deny. When you can't deny anymore, castigate the source.

Posted by: Mega at January 05, 2017 12:49 PM (JoX1c)

270 I just upgraded from a flip-brick to the cheapest smart phone, so I'm still getting used to the idea that a phone is a prime robbery "get".

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 12:48 PM (kKHcp)

Folks just did as well recently.

The calls for help are endless

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at January 05, 2017 12:49 PM (2x9LM)

271 I'm saying, quite simply, it's possible that Russia got into Podesta's account and gave that information to Assange.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:39 PM (/prE6)

Sure. and it's also possible that vaccines cause autism. However, there is zero evidence to back up either claim.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:50 PM (WGxp4)

272 I meant to do that!

Posted by: Pee Wee Hitler at January 05, 2017 12:50 PM (IqV8l)

273 What happened was somebody (maybe of Russian ancestry, maybe not) asked Podesta to play Go Fish and he said, "Sure, deal me in".

Posted by: Hank at January 05, 2017 12:50 PM (JzPCB)

274 Re: sears/craftsman

Hopefully they'll be sold separately from Sears. I will never darken the doorway of a Sears store again except to exchange one of the hundreds of tools I've bought from them if it fails. I never thought I'd see them be as bad or worse than Kmart, but I don't expect them to make it another five years. The local stores don't open until 11 just to try to keep the lights on, and the customer service is horrible. Good riddance. (spits)

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 05, 2017 12:50 PM (P/gs9)

275 But let's stop saying no one in the DNC has denied
the veracity of the leaked emails. That was their *first* defense,
before they started blaming Russia. Heck, they were claiming "fake"
before Assange even started leaking - they tried to prep the battlespace
in response to Assange sending "the bombshell emails are coming soon!"
tweets. Said they were fake before they even saw 'em.


Posted by: Lizzy
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Good point. And I think they trotted Brazile's pathetic butt out there to see how denying the emails would fly. ("She's really dumb, you guys. She'll do it!") It didn't fly. At all. Which is great. They are changing their story just like a panicking criminal in an interrogation as they are probably the ones peddling the "hacked election" spin to their lap dogs in the media.

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 12:50 PM (8b+oT)

276 Just goes to show that the entire US Intel Community has to be cleaned out and rebuilt from the floor up with patriotic Americans and NO Political hacks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 12:50 PM (sRFAL)

277 265 I'll put it this way: if I was the Russian govt, I would not rely on shitty email filters, shitty web filters, and dummy dumb dumbs to open stupid phishing emails and click on stupid phishing links to unsecured sites to input their personal information for my foreign espionage.

I would not think that would be the best use of my time, and I would not expect to get a lot of info that way.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems so... unsophisticated.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:48 PM (WGxp4)

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I bet they have it in their budget to pay a few cheap laborers 10-15 thousand dollars a year (at most) to send out phishing kits to lists of targets around the world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:51 PM (/prE6)

278 252 Heheheh...The Trump-Putin meet-up is gonna be full of hearty guffaws and knee slaps.

The DNC is laughing stock, what a bunch of putz'


Posted by: dananjcon at January 05, 2017 12:46 PM (NpXoL)

Trump: OK... I'll lay down my cards, pick up 12 armies, and invade Brazil to complete the conquest of South America... as I already have control of Mexico and Canada, so have completed North America.... which is worth 5 armies.. bigly....

Putin: /looks nervously at the expanding EU, and the 8000 Armies sitting in China...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2017 12:51 PM (qf6WZ)

279 The DNC blaming Russia is like the pot dealer calling the cops because someone stole his weed. And the MSM is the crooked cop on the take that goes to get him the weed back

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2017 12:51 PM (P/aDH)

280 271 Sure. and it's also possible that vaccines cause autism. However, there is zero evidence to back up either claim.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:50 PM (WGxp4)

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The analogy is flawed. There's evidence that vaccines do not cause autism.

There is also no evidence that the source was a leak. Are you as conspiracy minded as me, now?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:52 PM (/prE6)

281 Plus, just a couple of years ago didn't we all think that Assange was a Russian stooge?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:49 PM (/prE6)

No, I never had a problem with Assange.

I know some people lost their shit when he leaked the state department cables released by Bradley Chelsea Manning.

I also don't have a problem with Snowden.

I'm kind of a "I should know what's going on behind the scenes in my own govt" kind of guy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:52 PM (WGxp4)

282 The Russians are white people so it makes sense that they did this.

Posted by: The Media and The Government at January 05, 2017 12:52 PM (tPC7s)

283 Lizzy, by the way, I agree she was trying to send the FakeNews message, but I think she was worried a verified version of her emails might emerge in the future, so she was trying to cast aspersions on the email release from Wikileaks without actually denying.

In other words, I interpreted her slippery comment at the time as confirming they could actually be real and trying to get away from being pinned to the wall on it.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2017 12:52 PM (LISuA)

284 >>There's a way to verify if an electronic document has been changed as it
gets forwarded or copied, and those who are more computer savvy than I
am can explain further, but according to analysis done on those emails
they had not been changed.



DKIM Verification, which Wikileaks explains in detail in response to DNC and Podesta claims that the emails were "doctored" (any tech-savvy people want to confirm this?):

https://www.wikileaks.org/DKIM-Verification.html

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:52 PM (NOIQH)

285 "It's acting only as if it's in its political interest to claim it was hacked by Russians."
And they are willing to poke the bear to advance their political interests. Dangerously irresponsible.
Can't wait for the adults to take charge again.

Posted by: real joe at January 05, 2017 12:52 PM (2gGwJ)

286 I'm saying that if Putin has done it, then that's his most likely goal.

Also, how many times do I have to say that because of the entirely predictable reaction the MSM has had to the hacking of a Democratic official, 52% of Democrats actually believe that vote totals were changed by hacking? IF Putin's goal was to do that, then it's easy to see that he knocked over the first domino that led to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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It's Obama and Democrats that are undermining America's faith in the voting system, not the Russians.

They Dems didn't get the results they wanted, so it's their way of flipping the game board over. And political elements inside our intelligence agencies are willing to give them cover.

To say Russia would purposely want to get blamed for meddling and be in the middle of it does not serve their interests, in fact, it would only hurt their interests.

Posted by: Sebastian at January 05, 2017 12:52 PM (nq/J2)

287 How much longer is the stupid media going to go on about fake news and Russian hacking? I'm sick of both of these subjects. Thankfully, Trump isn't going to entertain any of this nonsense and will call them out on this BS.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 05, 2017 12:53 PM (6IPEM)

288 Hitler is dead?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at January 05, 2017 12:45 PM (RFeQD)



Can't be. I keep hearing that he's going to be our next president

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2017 12:53 PM (493sH)

289 Prezident Obama would NOT have ordered the military to invade Russia if they weren't behind the stealing of Mrs. Clintons computer!! Everyone knows that's how Trump beet out the Electors College and stole the election from Mrs. Clinton who won the popular vote!!!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein screaming in her '89 Subaru in Brattleboro, VT at January 05, 2017 12:53 PM (ty7RM)

290 Let's grant the ludicrous DEM/MSM/GOPe (BIRM) premise that Russia directed the hacking of the DNC servers.

I care precisely as much about that as FourPutt, Groper Biden, Ryano, SanFran Nan, Chester Turtle, McVain, Chuckles, Lady Lindsey and the rest of them evidently cared about the government of China hacking the OPM and steeling my and about 22-mil other identities, mostly from vets and former civilian-DOD employees - people who now have to wake up every morning and wonder if Beijing has drained their bank and/or retirement accounts.

In other words, I don't care. At all.

Fvck them all. With a flaming pineapple. Sideways.

Posted by: DocJ at January 05, 2017 12:53 PM (NYS7S)

291 Little known fact but when Obama requests an investigation or a report, he is generous enough to include the conclusion of the investigation or the report with the request..

This generosity aids the FBI considerably. Once they know the conclusion, they can ignore any facts they stumble over that do not support the conclusion. And if they can't find...or are not allowed to find a true culprit, they can attribute the fault back to the previously decided conclusion.

President Obama can do this because, like all other positions in the government, he is also a better computer forensics specialist as well as a better FBI agent than any in the FBI.

Posted by: JB1000 at January 05, 2017 12:53 PM (16OL0)

292
I'm saying, quite simply, it's possible that Russia got into Podesta's account and gave that information to Assange. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:39 PM (/prE6)

Do you believe the Russians gained access to Clinton's illegal private server?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2017 12:53 PM (lKyWE)

293
It's also interesting to note that our "fuck you, war" means we're
playing by their rules in our political lives now, and their "fuck you,
war" means they'll start an actual war with another country.
***
To be fair, Bill Clinton was infamous for starting a war to get bad news off the front pages - this isn't new for the Democrats.

Hell, Hillary was running on war with Russia - presumably to make it easier to deal with the domestic political opposition.

However unlike Serbia, Russia isn't a joke. No, they aren't the Soviet Union circa 1980, but we aren't talking a handful of casualties as a result, but at least tens of thousands.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (X7E8f)

294 The analogy is flawed. There's evidence that vaccines do not cause autism.

There is also no evidence that the source was a leak. Are you as conspiracy minded as me, now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:52 PM (/prE6)

No, there's not evidence that vaccines don't cause autism. The "evidence" that linked the two was proven to be bunk, but there is no evidence one way or another. (I personally don't think vaccines cause autism, but there is nothing but by gut instinct that says that.)

Same with the DNC emails. There's no evidence one way or another where they came from. Could be Putin. Could be China. Could be some loser in his basement. Could be a leak. Could be the RNC. Could be Israel. Could be -- well, the list is endless.

The evidence that we have in front of us does not confirm or deny any of those scenarios.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (WGxp4)

295 There is also no evidence that the source was a leak. Are you as conspiracy minded as me, now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:52 PM (/prE6)

So you totally dismiss what Julian Assange said?

You know.. one of the people directly involved in the Leak?

Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (qf6WZ)

296 >>...but I think she was worried a verified version of her emails
might emerge in the future, so she was trying to cast aspersions on the
email release from Wikileaks without actually denying.


Ah, prevarication instead of flat-out denial. How Clintonian!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (NOIQH)

297 If Trump and others do their jobs, this non-story will be barely remembered in a few short months.


The only story with traction and interest in this entire area will be the grand jury considering the massive and systematic violation of the Espionage and Public Record Acts by Hillary and a few dozen other people.


IF Trump and others do their jobs, especially others, of course (DoJ, FBI).

Posted by: rhomboid at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (QDnY+)

298 Plus, just a couple of years ago didn't we all think that Assange was a Russian stooge?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:49 PM (/prE6)

I still think he is. Not sure what one thing has to do with the other anyway?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (sRFAL)

299 286 To say Russia would purposely want to get blamed for meddling and be in the middle of it does not serve their interests, in fact, it would only hurt their interests.

Posted by: Sebastian at January 05, 2017 12:52 PM (nq/J2)

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That's only if you believe that Russia would think:

1) Hillary, who gave us a reset button, sold us uranium, and pretty much gave us all of her SoS emails through her unsecured homebrew server will be so made at winning despite this leak that she will go to war with us.

or

2) Trump, who seems to really respect and even like Putin, will go to war with us over this in the way off chance that he wins.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (/prE6)

300 I suspect there's a nameless guy living in his Mom's basement in Akron who also hacked those emails.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 05, 2017 12:55 PM (8MqeI)

301 292 Do you believe the Russians gained access to Clinton's illegal private server?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2017 12:53 PM (lKyWE)

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Most likely. And if they have that, then they'd probably want to hold that information, which most likely contained much more damaging information, for when Hillary was most likely going to become president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:56 PM (/prE6)

302 @ 293 However unlike Serbia, Russia isn't a joke. No, they aren't the Soviet Union circa 1980, but we aren't talking a handful of casualties as a result, but at least tens of thousands.
Posted by: 18-1
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Tens of thousands of dead Republican voters! War it is, then.

Posted by: DistHillary at January 05, 2017 12:56 PM (77i7V)

303 My gov't gave China the keys.

Hack, no.

Incompetent idjits that love to give free shit out to our enemies, ohgodyes.

Posted by: SMFH at January 05, 2017 12:56 PM (CRotO)

304 294
Same with the DNC emails. There's no evidence one way or another where they came from. Could be Putin. Could be China. Could be some loser in his basement. Could be a leak. Could be the RNC. Could be Israel. Could be -- well, the list is endless.

The evidence that we have in front of us does not confirm or deny any of those scenarios.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (WGxp4)

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That's exactly my fucking point.

We don't know, so why dismiss the Russia idea completely out of hand?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:56 PM (/prE6)

305 If the media, government institutions, along with the oppositional party in America were doing their jobs correctly then people like Assange would not have a demand to be filled. It's pretty simple. Same with Snowden.

These people filled a vacuum left because we have a bunch of criminals and liars in charge running things.

Posted by: Pepe at January 05, 2017 12:56 PM (tPC7s)

306 The calls for help are endless
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at January 05, 2017 12:49 PM (2x9LM)

I still use mine mostly as a phone, but now at least I can text if'n I want to. Also get online at a hotspot. ( Yeah, I know I'm cheap)

Watching the youngers hit that little keyboard with their thumbs at a rate that would make 70's typists jealous is amazing. I can't do that.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 12:57 PM (kKHcp)

307 295 So you totally dismiss what Julian Assange said?

You know.. one of the people directly involved in the Leak?
Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (qf6WZ)

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I'm sorry that I don't consider Julian Assange, anti-American activist, to be more trustworthy than the MSM. I consider them equally untrustworthy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:58 PM (/prE6)

308 Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein screaming in her '89 Subaru in Brattleboro, VT at January 05, 2017 12:53 PM (ty7RM)

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Off a cliff, I hope.

Posted by: SMFH at January 05, 2017 12:58 PM (CRotO)

309 >>If the media, government institutions, along with the oppositional party
in America were doing their jobs correctly then people like Assange
would not have a demand to be filled. It's pretty simple. Same with
Snowden.



Yep. They're not heroes, just a counter-balance to all of the lies fed to us by the now combined WH/DNC/MSM.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:58 PM (NOIQH)

310 2) Trump, who seems to really respect and even like Putin, will go to war with us over this in the way off chance that he wins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (/prE6)

Cite your source on this.

(Not to pick on you, but this is another silly media meme. When all world leaders were calling Trump names, he called them names back. When Putin said something sort of nice about Trump, Trump said "great guy, great guy" or one of his Trumpian sayings. That's the extent of this entire narrative about Trump and Putin being friendly.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WGxp4)

311 The Russian, The Chicoms, The Iranians, The North Koreans and all of our enemies and for that matter all of our "friends" are always snooping on us and we on them. If this is a surprise to anyone, then I have this Bridge in Brooklyn for sale cheap.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 12:58 PM (sRFAL)

312 310 Cite your source on this.

(Not to pick on you, but this is another silly media meme. When all world leaders were calling Trump names, he called them names back. When Putin said something sort of nice about Trump, Trump said "great guy, great guy" or one of his Trumpian sayings. That's the extent of this entire narrative about Trump and Putin being friendly.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WGxp4)

====================

"Seems to"

Based on Twitter exchanges and interviews. I don't have any special insight into his opinions on Putin, and neither do you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:59 PM (zdM/+)

313 Why shouldn't this make sense? As with everything with the liberal cancer, up is down, red is blue.

Why, yelling "I hate whitey!" while torturing a white kid isn't a hate crime - it's a regular old love crime.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:00 PM (2PHKP)

314 How much longer is the stupid media going to go on about fake news and Russian hacking? I'm sick of both of these subjects. Thankfully, Trump isn't going to entertain any of this nonsense and will call them out on this BS.
Posted by: L, Elle

uh.....How long till we get you to forget that we were in the tank for Hillary! and she still face planted (in several senses of that term)?

Posted by: the media and the politicians at January 05, 2017 01:00 PM (326rv)

315 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:45 PM (WGxp4)


All I can say is that I've seen lists that would make you plant your face squarely into your desk. Repeatedly.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2017 01:00 PM (uiwCw)

316 Russia made them do it.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 05, 2017 01:00 PM (hLRSq)

317 Clapper figuring out how to lie best, knowing he got away with it before.

Someone remind them of the O'Keefe video where Creamer admitted to funding attacks on the Trump rallies. Then just ask each agency ... is there evidence that the Russians were involved with O'Keefe, in revealing those illegal activities? And will there be any suggestion of prosecution for the several campaign finance crimes revealed in Wikileaks emails, or O'Keefe videos?

The real focus should be ... "but what about your DNC criminal gaffes?"

Posted by: illiniwek at January 05, 2017 01:00 PM (/aIFg)

318 I don't think the Russians did anything. I'd like to see some fact or proof that they did.

What's that? It's just conjecture? Yes. Yes it is. Plus a lot of leftist agitprop.
Posted by: Soona at January 05, 2017 12:26 PM (Fmupd)


The crack WaPo fact "checkers" assigned 3 pinocchios to Assange's statement that he didn't get the leaked e-mails from the Russians based on the findings of this security firm the DNC hired. Which findings, apparently, are to be accepted without question.

The WaPo beclowns itself yet *again*. You can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 05, 2017 01:00 PM (yXzVQ)

319 That's exactly my fucking point.

We don't know, so why dismiss the Russia idea completely out of hand?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:56 PM (/prE6)

I didn't dismiss it out of hand. I said it's possible. But no more or less likely than the Israelis or Chinese or Germans or Belarussians or Nigerian Princes or identity thieves or insiders or some kid in his basement anywhere in the world or any of the millions of other possibilities. We don't know.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:00 PM (WGxp4)

320 I think Debbie Whatsername Shultz is the patsie we thought she was and the secret lover of Putin himself. Once he romanced the pants off ole' Debbie the passwords were a cinch!!

Posted by: dananjcon at January 05, 2017 01:01 PM (NpXoL)

321 Watch for the hILLRY Suicide Watch, January 20th reboot.

Posted by: wth at January 05, 2017 01:01 PM (2WITp)

322
Most likely. And if they have that, then they'd probably want to hold that information, which most likely contained much more damaging information, for when Hillary was most likely going to become president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:56 PM (/prE6)


So why release the Podesta e-mails if they information they can use as leverage against a Clinton administration?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2017 01:01 PM (lKyWE)

323 319 I didn't dismiss it out of hand. I said it's possible. But no more or less likely than the Israelis or Chinese or Germans or Belarussians or Nigerian Princes or identity thieves or insiders or some kid in his basement anywhere in the world or any of the millions of other possibilities. We don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:00 PM (WGxp4)

====================

Maybe my rage was directed at other people, sorry.

I'm not paying that close of attention to who I'm replying to. I'll try to do better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (zdM/+)

324 I'm saying, quite simply, it's possible that Russia got into Podesta's account

Sure it's possible, but not probable. Podesta fell for a ridiculously unsophisticated fishing scam. A scam that was flagged by DNC IT. He was simply too stupid to follow directions and change his password. Doesn't sound like the work of a foreign intelligence service.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (ty7RM)

325 We don't know, so why dismiss the Russia idea completely out of hand?
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1) There's no real reason to think they had anything to do with it.

2) Democrat State Media *really really* wants us to believe they did.

Posted by: Methos at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (3Liv/)

326 Decimated!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w37_AzQExY

Posted by: SMFH at her schadenbutton at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (CRotO)

327 My password was milkofthepenis.

Posted by: John Podesta at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (tPC7s)
............

Mine is ShinyRedCowboyHat

Posted by: Frederica Wilson at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (2WITp)

328 I mean, cmon now. The media and politicians are
playing us all for fools. They really think we're this stupid, and it
drives me nuts.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:42 PM (WGxp4)

They're playing a numbers game , if enough believes the shit , they get their result.

Posted by: local news at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (1isJI)

329 (Not to pick on you, but this is another silly media meme. When all world leaders were calling Trump names, he called them names back. When Putin said something sort of nice about Trump, Trump said "great guy, great guy" or one of his Trumpian sayings. That's the extent of this entire narrative about Trump and Putin being friendly.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WGxp4)

====================

"Seems to"

Based on Twitter exchanges and interviews. I don't have any special insight into his opinions on Putin, and neither do you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:59 PM (zdM/+)

I gotta go with Harry Paratestes on this one. I think PE Trump is moslty just using Putin to plungin his enemies. Having said that, I wish he would stop doing is since Putin is a thug, a murder, and our enemy in most ways. Not that we can not or should not do business with him and Russia when it is in our best interests to, but let's not make Putin out to be what he is not

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (sRFAL)

330 Looook into my eyes.....

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (NpXoL)

331 >>Regarding Clapper, wasn't there a report that CIA was massaging CIA data so it conformed with Obama's "world view".


ME analysts were instructed to alter intelligence on ISIS to mirror Obama's view that they were JV team. This came out a year ago or so.

More recently, I seem to recall Obama blaming poor intelligence for him not being tougher on ISIS/being more successful in Syria. Cute trick.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (NOIQH)

332 208 Donna Brazile, as acting chair of DNC, claims wikileaks "doctored" the emails:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hegbylb

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:38 PM (NOIQH)


This is the first time anybody has claimed this, I think.

But there's one way to find out if she's telling the truth: we need to look at the original emails directly from the DNC servers to compare them with the ones released by wikileaks. That's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at January 05, 2017 01:03 PM (yXzVQ)

333 Shocked, shocked etc.

Posted by: your winnings, sir at January 05, 2017 01:03 PM (LTHVh)

334 Keep in mind here, the Democrats are saying Russia hacked the elections - not pointing out that some person who did hack these idiots let us in on the secret that the DNC was cheating, the Clinton's were corrupt and Podesta and his brother are pedophiles.

How dare someone find out I am a criminal!

Your finding my crimes is the real crime here!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:03 PM (2PHKP)

335 The Russian, The Chicoms, The Iranians, The North Koreans and all of our enemies and for that matter all of our "friends" are always snooping on us and we on them. If this is a surprise to anyone, then I have this Bridge in Brooklyn for sale cheap.




Geez. I've already bought two bridges in Brooklyn. How many you got up there?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2017 01:03 PM (dSqvH)

336 Based on Twitter exchanges and interviews. I don't have any special insight into his opinions on Putin, and neither do you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:59 PM (zdM/+)

Exactly. So it's silly to say Trump is friendly with Putin or Kim Jong Un (or whichever Kim Jong is in charge of NK) or Emomali Rahmon or any other world leader.

My whole point is that this entire story is based on absolutely nothing. The Russian hacking, the Putin wanting Trump over Hillary, the Trump being friendly with Putin, the... entire narrative is completely factless and fabricated by the HRC campaign/ DNC and media.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:03 PM (WGxp4)

337 322 So why release the Podesta e-mails if they information they can use as leverage against a Clinton administration?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2017 01:01 PM (lKyWE)

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When did I say that their objectives, if they were behind it, which I'm not sold on, would be to undermine Clinton's administration with the DNC emails?

It would be to undermine American confidence in our electoral system. They can have multiple objectives. A president Clinton who Americans think is somehow illegitimate because the DNC gamed the system for her, who can't do much against Russian interests because Russia has a lot of dirt on her.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 01:04 PM (zdM/+)

338 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI-SeHZIuwI

Posted by: SMFH at my schadenbutton at January 05, 2017 01:04 PM (CRotO)

339 324 Sure it's possible, but not probable. Podesta fell for a ridiculously unsophisticated fishing scam. A scam that was flagged by DNC IT. He was simply too stupid to follow directions and change his password. Doesn't sound like the work of a foreign intelligence service.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (ty7RM)

===================

I've said exactly that more than once, and I've been pilloried for it.

Possible, not probable. Don't dismiss it completely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 01:04 PM (zdM/+)

340 We don't know, so why dismiss the Russia idea completely out of hand?
---
1) There's no real reason to think they had anything to do with it.

2) Democrat State Media *really really* wants us to believe they did.
Posted by: Methos

3. these are the same fuckups responsible for the OPM open door, actual hacking, and the POS obamacare website.


people are still clinging to the falsehood that the brightest and best are doing battle in some CSI meets Transformers movie. We are literally being led by donkeys.

Posted by: Red Hen at January 05, 2017 01:04 PM (326rv)

341 My password was milkofthepenis.



Posted by: John Podesta at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (tPC7s)

............



Mine is ShinyRedCowboyHat

*******

Mine is RideTheTiger

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at January 05, 2017 01:05 PM (NpXoL)

342 296 Ah, prevarication instead of flat-out denial. How Clintonian!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 12:54 PM (NOIQH)
==========================

haha, exactly.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2017 01:05 PM (LISuA)

343 I'm not paying that close of attention to who I'm replying to. I'll try to do better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (zdM/+)

no problem

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:05 PM (WGxp4)

344 Well, maybe if a couple of Morons could accept the possibility of certain things, other stubborn Morons could graciously claim defeat, and we could move on to the Probability of such things being true.

Lots of things are possible to those with imagination.
Less things are probable.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 01:05 PM (kKHcp)

345 We don't know, so why dismiss the Russia idea completely out of hand?
---
1) There's no real reason to think they had anything to do with it.

2) Democrat State Media *really really* wants us to believe they did.
Posted by: Methos


3) Pissed off DNC BernieBro claims he was the leaker.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (dSqvH)

346 Mine is RideTheTiger

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at January 05, 2017 01:05 PM (NpXoL)

---

I approve.

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (CRotO)

347 And, no one has answered WHY Russia would prefer Trump to Clinton. She was shitty at State, and Russia has moved unimpeded in its region since '08. Old Saggy Bottom beclowning herself w/the reset button must have been one of Putin's favorite moments. Why wouldn't this continue under President Clinton?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (ty7RM)

348 336 My whole point is that this entire story is based on absolutely nothing. The Russian hacking, the Putin wanting Trump over Hillary, the Trump being friendly with Putin, the... entire narrative is completely factless and fabricated by the HRC campaign/ DNC and media.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:03 PM (WGxp4)

===================

And the leak from within the DNC story is based on the word of an untrustworthy source (Assange) and a mysterious death.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (zdM/+)

349 2) Democrat State Media *really really* wants us to believe they did.


This. Past experience, and Wikileaks, though that's a bit self-referential, suggest that whatever the State Media is saying is wrong and a lie. It's what they do. It's all they do.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (LTHVh)

350 heh. I think I meant graciously claim victory but, whatever.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (kKHcp)

351 They're getting bellicose about this shit. Obama. McCain. Graham. Ryan. They are purposely stirring shit up over this. This is just 'blaming' Russia. These shitheads are demanding that Russia pay... for something they might very well may not have done.

This is nuts.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (Gh3fw)

352 Why can't we all just take Donna Brazile's word for it?

Posted by: melanerpes at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (Jpmxi)

353 What a sad display of buffoonery that hearing was this morning. Numerous anti war liberals who defunded our military-intelligence community and continue to pay them lip service, who also beat them to death over Iraq, cavorting with poltical appointees in those agencies and jerking each other off in Kabuki Theater.

As Trump would say; Sad! Do they really believe people are that dumb?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (BP2E4)

354

===================

That's exactly my fucking point.

We don't know, so why dismiss the Russia idea completely out of hand?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 12:56 PM (/prE6


--------------------


If they possibly did it, what would be their motive? You know, a motive other than the one we've seeing from American leftists for the last 8 years.

Posted by: Soona at January 05, 2017 01:07 PM (Fmupd)

355
Mrs. Clinton who won the popular vote!!!
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein


She won the poplar vote because the oaks are just too lofty.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2017 01:07 PM (IqV8l)

356 Obama: 'We Cannot Deny the Legacy of Racism' in the Justice System
____________________

He, like most of the leftist academics weighing in on this issue, are full of shit and living in the past.

Sure, there was prejudice against blacks in some cases in the past. And yes, there were some more recent systemic sentencing disparities (crack cocaine vs. powder), but almost all of those injustices have long since been remedied.

There have also been plenty of instances, and more recent ones, where whites have been the ones who have not received justice, because of black racism. See, for example, the majority black jury's refusal to convict an obviously guilty OJ Simpson for viciously murdering two white people. See also, George Zimmerman, who was charged and forced to go to trial for using justifiable force to defend his own life against a black thug who had jumped him and was trying to beat him to death. See also, the current federal "guidelines" that force schools to basically ignore black students' violence in the classroom, because the Obama administration doesn't want there to be any "disparity" in punishment -- despite the fact that there is a clear racial disparity in the make-up of the offenders (i.e. black students commit far more school violence than whites, or hispanics, or asians).

The fact is that, regardless of what happened in this country in the past, there are a disproportionately higher number of blacks than whites in prison today because BLACKS COMMIT MORE CRIMES, AND FAR MORE VIOLENT CRIMES than whites do.

The reason that blacks commit more crimes, and far more violent crimes, is because they come from a sick and dysfunctional culture where violence is the norm and thuggery is applauded and encouraged.

And that has nothing to do with racism. That is the result of blacks' own shitty and self-defeating choices.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 05, 2017 01:07 PM (riF5p)

357 It is chivalrous to say the DNC should have given law enforcement their crappy computers. Look, we take in huge amounts of money. Who knows if it is legal. Who wants another payola scandle? That is why we hired Crowdstink with non-disclosure agreement to give us the best information we want. We need to be able to control the narritiave at the same time side-stepping campaign contribution laws. If I had to call the FBI every time one of my butt boy's Johns got his credit card skimmed I would be in jail. The Russians or script kiddies probably hacked our computers. Take our word for it. You can quote me on that. Good day

Posted by: Barney F at January 05, 2017 01:07 PM (4acWK)

358 Seems to me ... since I was reminded repeatedly last year that both the Democrat and Republican Parties are private organizations who can nominate whomever they wish ... that I really don't give a damn who hacked into their email.

They're not a government agency. So a fuck I simply do not give.

Posted by: SD at January 05, 2017 01:07 PM (7faTs)

359 Only one group I know of continually cries wolf. Just sayin.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (2PHKP)

360 Well, this will turn your stomach.

Not a pic, just disgusting words from the WaPoo.

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/817067149651013632

And the "unclear" bit? Give me a break.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (gTQoY)

361 354 If they possibly did it, what would be their motive? You know, a motive other than the one we've seeing from American leftists for the last 8 years.
Posted by: Soona at January 05, 2017 01:07 PM (Fmupd)

======================

I've given a possible motive several time on this thread.

Llook it up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (zdM/+)

362 And the leak from within the DNC story is based on the word of an untrustworthy source (Assange) and a mysterious death.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (zdM/+)

Sure. I mean, frankly, I suspect Assange doesn't even know who really did the "hacking." If it was a state actor, it would have been easy enough for them to find an intermediary to deliver the info with a story of insider leaks or whatever. And Assange is locked up in an embassy in London, it's not like he met anyone in person. So it was through his intermediary that this info was delivered. So who knows? I don't know how he can say anything on this subject with "1000% confidence."

Maybe I'm off base here, but either way I'm not putting a lot of weight in to what he says either.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (WGxp4)

363 Dammit, my pizza is late! Let's bomb Pizza Hut! Or was it Dominoes? Let's bomb them both!

Posted by: John McCain at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (kTF2Z)

364 >>>>I'm saying, quite simply, it's possible that Russia got into Podesta's account



Sure it's possible, but not probable. Podesta fell for a
ridiculously unsophisticated fishing scam. A scam that was flagged by
DNC IT. He was simply too stupid to follow directions and change his
password. Doesn't sound like the work of a foreign intelligence service.
.
.
.
.That plus he is an idiot who's password was literally "password".

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (icl5y)

365 Sure it's possible, but not probable. Podesta fell for a ridiculously unsophisticated fishing scam. A scam that was flagged by DNC IT. He was simply too stupid to follow directions and change his password. Doesn't sound like the work of a foreign intelligence service.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (ty7RM)

===================

I've said exactly that more than once, and I've been pilloried for it.

Possible, not probable. Don't dismiss it completely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

It's also possible that space aliens did it. And if I ever see any evidence from someone other than some asshole trying to guard his rice bowl, I might follow it up.

Until then, all this tells me that obama and his cast of rejects from the West Wing and whatever that other sorkin masturbatory fantasy is, are useless idiots who talked about how Russia wasn't a threat, while being defeated in a cyber breach, by them.

Posted by: Red Hen at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (326rv)

366 Lots of things are possible to those with imagination.

Less things are probable.
---
It's all a Dalek plot.

Posted by: Methos at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (3Liv/)

367 >>This is the first time anybody has claimed this, I think.

Nope. Jen Palmieri made same claims:

"Friends, please remember that if you see a whopper of a Wikileaks in next two days - it's probably a fake."

(yeah, weasel wording of "probably," but the point was to cast doubt on veracity of leaks)

https://twitter.com/jmpalmieri/status/795264366547533824

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (NOIQH)

368 My password was milkofthepenis.



Posted by: John Podesta at January 05, 2017 12:37 PM (tPC7s)

............



Mine is ShinyRedCowboyHat

*******

Mine is RideTheTiger



Posted by: Vladimir Putin at January 05, 2017 01:05 PM (NpXoL)
............

Mine is JugEaredFuck

Posted by: Barry Soetoro - AA, BFD at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (2WITp)

369 I went to the dentist this morning and they said I need a root canal. I think the Russians hacked their x-ray machine.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (zoehZ)

370 "one group... continually cries wolf"

little boys?

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 05, 2017 01:09 PM (+v3hH)

371 You know, a motive other than the one we've seeing from American leftists for the last 8 years.
Posted by: Soona at January 05, 2017 01:07 PM (Fmupd)

Russian Motive? Rat Fucking with America. It's an Russian Hobby. And it is non-partisan. And it's been going on since WW2

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 01:09 PM (sRFAL)

372 351 They're getting bellicose about this shit. Fuckstick. McCain. Graham. Ryan. They are purposely stirring shit up over this. This is just 'blaming' Russia. These shitheads are demanding that Russia pay... for something they might very well may not have done.

This is nuts.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (Gh3fw)

---

That they would rather start WWIII as opposed to allowing their gravy train to come to an end?

if you're heavily invested in holding on to wealth and power, not so nuts, at least from their POV.

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at January 05, 2017 01:09 PM (CRotO)

373
Remember the Maine!
Remember the Hack!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 05, 2017 01:09 PM (IqV8l)

374 I've said exactly that more than once, and I've been pilloried for it.

Possible, not probable. Don't dismiss it completely.




If this were a horse race, don't put your money on Win or Place.
$2 on Show. Max.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2017 01:09 PM (dSqvH)

375 Off crazy aids-ridden sock.

Posted by: SMFH at January 05, 2017 01:09 PM (CRotO)

376 And, no one has answered WHY Russia would prefer Trump to Clinton. She was shitty at State, and Russia has moved unimpeded in its region since '08. Old Saggy Bottom beclowning herself w/the reset button must have been one of Putin's favorite moments. Why wouldn't this continue under President Clinton?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (ty7RM)

And no one has even bothered to ponder how the Russians were so devious to make nearly every person in the Clinton camp say and do the corrupt, unethical, illegal shit they said and said they were doing. That was some sneaky shit.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:10 PM (Gh3fw)

377 351
They're getting bellicose about this shit. Obama. McCain. Graham. Ryan.
They are purposely stirring shit up over this. This is just 'blaming'
Russia. These shitheads are demanding that Russia pay... for something
they might very well may not have done.



This is nuts.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (Gh3fw)


Russia may have leaked the truth to the public , they must be punished hard!The corrupt class defends itself.

Posted by: local news at January 05, 2017 01:10 PM (1isJI)

378 Media and Dems work to undermine the Republic, when Dems are in office.

When the people elect Repub's, Dems and MSM work to undermine the duly elected government.

They are subversives, always.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 05, 2017 01:10 PM (/aIFg)

379 Perhaps if liberals understood that a majority of people see them as a bigger threat to our country than Russia they may start to understand.

After the last eight years and all that was actually revealed in that email content there is plenty of substantiation.

Notice the want to talk about anything but the content. It's a total blackout on that subject.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 05, 2017 01:10 PM (BP2E4)

380 DNC hires firm to say Russians hacked the DNC's computers. DNC-hired firm says Russians hacked DNC computers. FBI and CIA go "hurr durr Russian hackers!"

What a stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 05, 2017 01:11 PM (0mRoj)

381 I went to the dentist this morning and they said I need a root canal. I think the Russians hacked their x-ray machine.
Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2017 01:08 PM (zoehZ)

Was that yoos?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 01:11 PM (sRFAL)

382 Nope. Jen Palmieri made same claims:

"Friends, please remember that if you see a whopper of a Wikileaks in next two days - it's probably a fake."

(yeah, weasel wording of "probably," but the point was to cast doubt on veracity of leaks)



As in: "Sling enough shit & pray something sticks"

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2017 01:11 PM (dSqvH)

383 Its the un-known-knowns that we don't know that will hurts us.

Posted by: Don Rummy Rummsfeld at January 05, 2017 01:11 PM (NpXoL)

384 They're getting bellicose about this shit. Obama. McCain. Graham. Ryan. They are purposely stirring shit up over this. This is just 'blaming' Russia. These shitheads are demanding that Russia pay... for something they might very well may not have done.

This is nuts.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (Gh3fw)

It's dangerous. The Russians are a pretty paranoid people. Putin's already nervous that the past 20 years of US-backed "regime changes" might be coming his way at some point. HRC already accused him of stealing an election, the US has been throwing shade at him for a while.

We do not need to be beating the war drums here. It's really not a good idea. We don't want the Russians to do something stupid because they believe our blowhard politicians when they start putting on the war paint.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:11 PM (WGxp4)

385 And no one has even bothered to ponder how the
Russians were so devious to make nearly every person in the Clinton camp
say and do the corrupt, unethical, illegal shit they said and said they
were doing. That was some sneaky shit.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:10 PM (Gh3fw)

Apparently, the hack was pulling the curtain back on the corruption that is the DNC.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:12 PM (2PHKP)

386 Obama writing 56 pages of anything is the definition of fake news. It's laughable. Ha!

Did too! Did too! The name of one state on each page....now if I could just remember the last one....

Posted by: President Foot Wedge at January 05, 2017 01:12 PM (BrQrN)

387
If they possibly did it, what would be their motive? You know, a motive other than the one we've seeing from American leftists for the last 8 years.
Posted by: Soona at January 05

-------

We are being colonized by the caliphate, so we should go to war with the only country that is willing to fight them, or some made up "wag the dog" BS so a bunch of effeminate socialists will feel better about their failings?

Posted by: The guy with the hair at January 05, 2017 01:12 PM (50Zxu)

388 >>>>It is chivalrous to say the DNC should have given law enforcement their
crappy computers. Look, we take in huge amounts of money. Who knows if
it is legal. Who wants another payola scandle? That is why we hired
Crowdstink with non-disclosure agreement to give us the best information
we want. We need to be able to control the narritiave at the same time
side-stepping campaign contribution laws. If I had to call the FBI every
time one of my butt boy's Johns got his credit card skimmed I would be
in jail. The Russians or script kiddies probably hacked our computers.
Take our word for it. You can quote me on that. Good day
.
.
.
.Spot on, there is no way on earth that the DNC was going to let the FBI anywhere near their servers. Pretty much why they never called the FBI back after they informed them they were compromised and more importantly why they never filed any complaint with any law enforcement agency about the alleged hacking.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 05, 2017 01:12 PM (icl5y)

389 They're getting bellicose about this shit. Obama. McCain. Graham. Ryan.

They are purposely stirring shit up over this. This is just 'blaming'

Russia. These shitheads are demanding that Russia pay... for something

they might very well may not have done.




I suspect that there are emails yet to drop, cc'ed McCain and Graham..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 05, 2017 01:13 PM (LTHVh)

390 I don't know nothin' 'bout no leaks, mate.

Posted by: Abbo Plumber at January 05, 2017 01:13 PM (ZKaOe)

391 The Left and Us normal Americans are at each other's throats. THAT is certainly in the Ruskie Bear's interest. Divide and Conquer!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 01:14 PM (sRFAL)

392 389
I suspect that there are emails yet to drop, cc'ed McCain and Graham..
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 05, 2017 01:13 PM (LTHVh)


God, I hope so, and the sooner the better.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2017 01:15 PM (zoehZ)

393 MAYBE some Russian (and there are a lot of Russian people!) had some role in leaking the truthful and relevant information about the DNC's corruption, stupidity, and conspiracy with many in the MSM to push the damaged Clinton into the presidency.

Big deal.

I don't recall the WaPo (what is their new name? Idiot Post?) exhibiting such outrage over Deep Throat.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at January 05, 2017 01:15 PM (CLKfs)

394 >>And no one has even bothered to ponder how the

Russians were so devious to make nearly every person in the Clinton camp

say and do the corrupt, unethical, illegal shit they said and said they

were doing. That was some sneaky shit.



Oh, they've even claimed the Russians hacked -- and then doctored! -- their emails:

But getting back to Kaine, he tried to blame the Russians --- saying that we
don't know the accuracy of these emails. Yeah, we also don't know for
sure that these documents dumps were ordered by the Russians to
influence the election, which is an equally outrageous claim. Kaine went
a step further to say that the Russians doctored the emails.


Why stick with one claim when you can use both?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/z2nanqy

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 01:15 PM (NOIQH)

395 And, no one has answered WHY Russia would prefer Trump to Clinton. She was shitty at State, and Russia has moved unimpeded in its region since '08. Old Saggy Bottom beclowning herself w/the reset button must have been one of Putin's favorite moments. Why wouldn't this continue under President Clinton?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (ty7RM)

The best guess I can come up with is that Russia thinks that we may back out of NATO, or change our obligations within NATO. If Putin wanted to move into the Baltic states or Poland, he may feel he has a better chance with Trump in the WH rather than Clinton.

Posted by: josephistan at January 05, 2017 01:15 PM (7HtZB)

396 The FNM has rewritten the rules of right and wrong. The wolves are at the door. Now what?

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at January 05, 2017 01:15 PM (nQ10o)

397 But getting back to Kaine, he tried to blame the Russians --- saying that we
don't know the accuracy of these emails. Yeah, we also don't know for
sure that these documents dumps were ordered by the Russians to
influence the election, which is an equally outrageous claim. Kaine went
a step further to say that the Russians doctored the emails.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2017 01:15 PM (NOIQH)

The only way to know for sure would be for the DNC to release their versions of the emails so that we can compare the two.

Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:16 PM (WGxp4)

398 If the DNC had handed their computers over to FBI we'd still be processing all the arrests.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 05, 2017 01:16 PM (Kucy5)

399
Sure it's possible, but not probable. Podesta fell for a ridiculously unsophisticated fishing scam. A scam that was flagged by DNC IT. He was simply too stupid to follow directions and change his password. Doesn't sound like the work of a foreign intelligence service. Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (ty7RM)


That's what offends Putin the most.The guy cut his teeth in the old KGB and that we're accusing him of being behind such a ham handed amateurish operation like this laughable

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2017 01:16 PM (lKyWE)

400 Since Assange' MO is being a whistleblower and he's in hot water from GOVERNMENTS for telling the truth about what they are doing, I will just assume that when Assange says it wasn't the Russians or any state entity, he's telling me the truth.

Juxtapose that with the DNC, Clintons and the MSM screaming loudly that the Russian's did it and it's the reason Hillary lost, not that she's a completely smug piece of shit with a habit of being drunk and passing out for unknown reasons.

I'll believe Assange, thanks.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:16 PM (2PHKP)

401 388: I had forgotten about that stupid DNC guy who didn't return the FBI's calls because he didn't know if they were real!

The whole DNC/Hacking claim stinks to high heaven.

What a bunch of buffoons.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at January 05, 2017 01:17 PM (CLKfs)

402 President Fuckstick has another ironic award for his trophy shelf, to accompany his Nobel Peace Prize and all those participation trophies he got at Punahou for his basketball skills *snort*. His appointee and subordinate Ash Carter yesterday pinned a military medal - the Department of Defense Medal for Distinguished Public Service - on his boss, as Warner Todd Huston reported for Breitbart.

http://tinyurl.com/he8xvej

---

*claps wildly*

Posted by: John F'n Kerry at January 05, 2017 01:17 PM (CRotO)

403
Hey, when are the Russkies going to "leak" all of those submissive womens over here that we're supposed to get for voting for Trump?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2017 01:18 PM (493sH)

404 It's dangerous. The Russians are a pretty paranoid people. Putin's already nervous that the past 20 years of US-backed "regime changes" might be coming his way at some point. HRC already accused him of stealing an election, the US has been throwing shade at him for a while.

We do not need to be beating the war drums here. It's really not a good idea. We don't want the Russians to do something stupid because they believe our blowhard politicians when they start putting on the war paint.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

It's rather sad when our best hope is that Putin was/is a professional intelligence officer, and he probably understands better than anyone that this is a false flag operation

Posted by: Red Hen at January 05, 2017 01:18 PM (326rv)

405 Why stick with one claim when you can use both?



And that's where the claim of Russia being responsible starts falling apart and the "shit slinging hoping it sticks" starts filtering in. When you can stay on one reason it starts stinking of desperation.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2017 01:19 PM (dSqvH)

406 SMFH @ 303 you are exactly right. They didn't need to hack anything.

Sounds to me like the firm the DNC hired is as competent as the firm that was hired to roll out Obamacare.

Posted by: Cheri at January 05, 2017 01:19 PM (oiNtH)

407 It's aggravating and scary to see how these narratives and memes form, then become accepted wisdom, then become fact, and soon will be written in the history books.

All based on absolutely nothing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:19 PM (WGxp4)

408 They're getting bellicose about this shit. Obama.
McCain. Graham. Ryan. They are purposely stirring shit up over this.
This is just 'blaming' Russia. These shitheads are demanding that
Russia pay... for something they might very well may not have done.



This is nuts.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:06 PM (Gh3fw)

Hey, it worked for Germany circa Sept 1, 1939 wrt Poland

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 05, 2017 01:20 PM (JO9+V)

409 If you look at what was released, it seems to support a Bernie supporter unhappy with what those idiots did.

But Wikileaks chose what to release, so...

The best evidence, IMHO, that it wasn't the Russians is how the Administration behaved! Didn't look at or seize the computers, didn't investigate, and just sent 35 people home.

That's hand-waving crap. "See, they did it, we found out, we punished them. Yay us. Move along now. "

Months later.

Sure.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 05, 2017 01:20 PM (gTQoY)

410 I've noticed that Ben Shapiro seems to buy into the Russian hacking thing. He tweeted something to the effect that if you question what the CIA and FBI say then you are essentially siding with Putin. I've found him to be quite frustrating this past year.

Everything from the completely unnecessary white knighting of Michelle Fields to him dismissing pizzagate as could never ever be true. To be fair, there is no hard evidence of pizzagate, just circumstantial at this point but that doesn't mean it could not turn out to be true someday. Jimmy Saville anyone?

Sorry for the rant.

Posted by: Independent George at January 05, 2017 01:20 PM (BDZWU)

411 And that has nothing to do with racism. That is the result of blacks' own shitty and self-defeating choices.

...and a Welfare system that has for 50+ years encouraged:
a. Dependent women to have LOTS of babies
b. No men to be in the household
And liberals have happily encouraged and funded this system.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2017 01:20 PM (ty7RM)

412 Clapper whining about "disparaging the IC?" Sheesh, man, the IC has been disparaged at every turn. How soon Clapper forgets that Obama threw him under the bus when ISIS emerged as being somewhat more capable than "the JV team"--it was only when we learned that The One wasn't attending his PDB briefings daily (or even often) that he couldn't dodge responsibility. For every one article in the newspaper lauding an intel win, I can show you a binder full of criticism.

Correlating "IP addresses associated with" and "malicious Russian cyber activity" doesn't make the nut, gents. Trump's critique of IC conclusions is healthy, public by necessity, and probably spot-on.

Posted by: General Zod at January 05, 2017 01:21 PM (Bdeb0)

413 Juxtapose that with the DNC, Clintons and the MSM screaming loudly that the Russian's did it and it's the reason Hillary lost, not that she's a completely smug piece of shit with a habit of being drunk and passing out for unknown reasons.

I'll believe Assange, thanks.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

The nice thing about sanity is, the government has the impressive resources that it has, including cyber departments and that massive NSA complex....And they chose to churn out a POS rag based on the word of a third party paid for by the DNC.

Knowing all this, I refuse to believe any of the turds being floated until I see a grown up present something.

Posted by: Red Hen at January 05, 2017 01:21 PM (326rv)

414 Another lie to add to the DNC pile: that guy who now claims he meant to tell Podesta the phishing scam email was "ILLegitimate" but accidentally said it was legitimate.

Laughable. If he was suspicious, he would say it was a scam, a trap, a phony, suspicious, etc. He would NOT say "that email is illegitimate."

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at January 05, 2017 01:22 PM (CLKfs)

415
It's rather sad when our best hope is that Putin was/is a professional intelligence officer, and he probably understands better than anyone that this is a false flag operation
Posted by: Red Hen at January 05, 2017 01:18 PM (326rv)

I fucking hope so. I'm a bit of a student of Russian history, and all I can say is that they don't tend to get the subtleties of European (and American) saber rattling, and when it's for real, and that they tend to be pretty paranoid overall. Just ask Catherine the Great and Gustav III.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:22 PM (WGxp4)

416 To be fair, there is no hard evidence of pizzagate, just circumstantial creepy and inexplicable at this point

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2017 01:22 PM (ty7RM)

417 Wikileaks dripped, dripped, dripped the DNC/Podesta emails all during the summer & through the fall campaign. No one seemed too concerned as to what the source was at the time. So why did no one blame the Russians until after Trump won?

Posted by: josephistan at January 05, 2017 01:23 PM (7HtZB)

418 So, Obama is willing to go to war with Russia based on evidence gathered by a paid DNC consultant?

That's a new one.

Let's call it "The Crowdstrike War."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 05, 2017 01:23 PM (4AVeu)

419 410
I've noticed that Ben Shapiro seems to buy into the Russian hacking
thing. He tweeted something to the effect that if you question what the
CIA and FBI say then you are essentially siding with Putin. I've found
him to be quite frustrating this past year.





Posted by: Independent George at January 05, 2017 01:20 PM (BDZWU)

I'm sorry. Is Dissent patriotic again or is it still out of vogue?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:24 PM (2PHKP)

420 https://tinyurl.com/zyuldlv





WOW! DNI Director James Clapper Russia Behind Hacking and Fake News (VIDEO)

Posted by: Evilpens at January 05, 2017 01:24 PM (y3aQB)

421 SMFH @ 303 you are exactly right. They didn't need to hack anything.

Sounds to me like the firm the DNC hired is as competent as the firm that was hired to roll out Obamacare.
Posted by: Cheri at January 05, 2017 01:19 PM (oiNtH)


They were probably recommended but the firm who hosted Shrillary's server in their bathroom.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at January 05, 2017 01:24 PM (CLKfs)

422 Tanks on the borders of your inbox,
and spies every webpage.

Posted by: DaveA at January 05, 2017 01:24 PM (8J/Te)

423 So, Obama is willing to go to war with Russia based on evidence gathered by a paid DNC consultant?


The ONLY ones Fredo ever went to war with are the Repubicans ( well mostly us Tea Partyers? LOL) and Israel.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 01:25 PM (sRFAL)

424 I'm sorry. Is Dissent patriotic again or is it still out of vogue?



Still out of vogue for 15 more days.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2017 01:25 PM (dSqvH)

425 The Democrats never specifically denied the truth of a particular email. Their strategy, instead, seemed to be to decry "doctored emails" and "possible fakes", and then move on.

That's where they got into trouble with this, because its the same-old Clinton strategy of "move on, nothing to see here", when the public thought there was plenty to see. I myself interpreted the response as "the emails are accurate".

It never mattered to me if the Russians released them or not- they were true, and the American press is so in the Democrats pocket they refused to do their fucking jobs. So if, this one time, the Russians did what needed to be done to help voters understand what the Democrats were all about, then fine.

It doesn't make me think any more of the Russians, but the fact I get better news from Vlad the Impaler than I get from the WaPo and the NYT confirms my very low opinion of the American media.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2017 01:25 PM (LISuA)

426 Test.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 05, 2017 01:26 PM (v9gSJ)

427 If you look at what was released, it seems to support a Bernie supporter unhappy with what those idiots did.

But ...

That's hand-waving crap. "See, they did it, we found out, we punished them. Yay us. Move along now. "

Months later.

Sure.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 05, 2017 01:20 PM (gTQoY)

I've been reading and listening to some on the left for whom the redline that Hillary crossed was cheating. Cheating Bernie, as it turned out, but cheating in the debates as well. I was actually surprised that cheating was a problem for lefties. Probably just when it's done against their own, but still...

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:26 PM (Gh3fw)

428 Russians are hacking!!

Hillary having a shit house server is still no big deal!!



Way are you looking at me like I'm an idiot?

Posted by: beautiful people at January 05, 2017 01:26 PM (326rv)

429 The nice thing about sanity is, the government has
the impressive resources that it has, including cyber departments and
that massive NSA complex....And they chose to churn out a POS rag based
on the word of a third party paid for by the DNC.



Knowing all this, I refuse to believe any of the turds being floated until I see a grown up present something.

Posted by: Red Hen at January 05, 2017 01:21 PM (326rv)

One would think calling a character witness to prove a claim would be frowned upon.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:26 PM (2PHKP)

430 All of this "hacked" drama is why I believe that the Trump Administration has to take HRC to task along with all that were associated with her emails and nail them to the cross.

Scorched earth.

Posted by: Cheri at January 05, 2017 01:26 PM (oiNtH)

431 >>>Since Assange' MO is being a whistleblower and he's in hot water from GOVERNMENTS for telling the truth about what they are doing, I will just assume that when Assange says it wasn't the Russians or any state entity, he's telling me the truth.

I forgot, what were the big whistleblower releases against Russia or China? Big countries he targets are US and the West.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 05, 2017 01:27 PM (TfgXH)

432 410
Everything from the completely unnecessary white knighting of Michelle Fields to him dismissing pizzagate as could never ever be true. To be fair, there is no hard evidence of pizzagate, just circumstantial at this point but that doesn't mean it could not turn out to be true someday. Jimmy Saville anyone?
Posted by: Independent George at January 05, 2017 01:20 PM (BDZWU)


I could be misremembering, but I began hearing the "fake news" meme riiiight around the time people started talking about Pizzagate.

Posted by: rickl at January 05, 2017 01:27 PM (zoehZ)

433
Now wait a minute. Are you telling me that the Russians hacked the election after Barry "Joe Besser" Obama told them to cut it out? How could they ignore the mostest brilliant and well respected person in the history of the universe?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2017 01:28 PM (493sH)

434 It doesn't make me think any more of the Russians, but the fact I get better news from Vlad the Impaler than I get from the WaPo and the NYT confirms my very low opinion of the American media.




Sadly, you get more timely and accurate news from the Daily Mail than you do from the MFM.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2017 01:28 PM (dSqvH)

435 >>>>>Wikileaks dripped, dripped, dripped the DNC/Podesta emails all during
the summer through the fall campaign. No one seemed too concerned
as to what the source was at the time. So why did no one blame the
Russians until after Trump won?
.
.
.
.Because they believed their own bull$hit polls and pundits that all said hillary would win in a landslide, so they didn't care what anyone did. obama admitted that in a statement.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 05, 2017 01:28 PM (icl5y)

436 So, you're telling me that the FBI found conclusive evidence of evil intent without an investigation?

Huh. Now it make sense. When they investigate stuff is when then fail to find anything. Otherwise, everything is 100% clear and certain.

Ah ha! The damn Russians made Hillary set up an illegal, unsecured server in her basement and share classified information with people without clearance!

Posted by: Damiano at January 05, 2017 01:28 PM (71OEY)

437 Hollywood Moonbat Nancy Sinatra Apologizes To The Man Who Saved America, Barack Obama, For The Unprecedented Racism He Faced

Weasel Zipper

Old Blue eyes is turning over in his grave

Oh and Nancy...Your an old no talent hack living off your father's fame. And take those boots and shove up you shriviled old ass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 01:29 PM (sRFAL)

438 So was the private firm the DNC hired by any chance, Kaspersky?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2017 01:29 PM (TOk1P)

439 The revealed information was not widely reported and to this day is barely known by most of the electorate.


The corrupt undemocratic Democrat party pushed the daft old Socialist Jew out of the way for the corrupt old sick Tranzi bitch.

Posted by: DaveA at January 05, 2017 01:29 PM (8J/Te)

440 424
I'm sorry. Is Dissent patriotic again or is it still out of vogue?







Still out of vogue for 15 more days.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2017 01:25 PM (dSqvH)

10-4. I can never keep up.

On a related note, I am hearing rumblings that the balance of powers will be opening up for traditional congressional parliamentary rules. I saw balance of powers back when GWB was president. They were good.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:29 PM (2PHKP)

441 420 https://tinyurl.com/zyuldlv





WOW! DNI Director James Clapper Russia Behind Hacking and Fake News (VIDEO)
Posted by: Evilpens at January 05, 2017 01:24 PM (y3aQB)


Is he under arrest yet for lying to Congress under oath about spying on the American people?

Oh, ha ha, that's right. Nothing ever happened with that.

Why does Congress allow this known liar and perjurer to testify in front of them?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:29 PM (WGxp4)

442 first hillary wants a restart and gives putin her button to push.

then putin thinks she likes him and starts pushing her button.

it's a little late to try and get a restraining order now, isn't it?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 05, 2017 01:29 PM (WTSFk)

443 The best guess I can come up with is that Russia thinks that we may back out of NATO, or change our obligations within NATO. If Putin wanted to move into the Baltic states or Poland, he may feel he has a better chance with Trump in the WH rather than Clinton.
But Turkey is part of NATO, no? They'll stop Putin when push comes to shove, amIright??

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2017 01:30 PM (ty7RM)

444 2) Democrat State Media *really really* wants us to believe they did.
Posted by: Methos at January 05, 2017 01:02 PM (3Liv/)
*******
Yes. This. They lie and spin about everything so I don't give them the benefit of the doubt that they are right about this Russian hacking theory. They need a boogeyman and Putin is it. Because Trump has said a few complimentary things about Putin makes Trump as evil as they think Putin is. This is the same group of people that willfully deny any evil in ISIS and radical Islamists and want us to believe that Islam is just misunderstood.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 05, 2017 01:30 PM (6IPEM)

445 437
Hollywood Moonbat Nancy Sinatra Apologizes To The Man Who Saved America, Barack Obama, For The Unprecedented Racism He Faced



Weasel Zipper



Old Blue eyes is turning over in his grave



Oh and Nancy...Your an old no talent hack living off your father's fame. And take those boots and shove up you shriviled old ass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 01:29 PM (sRFAL)

And I thought Jim Jones had his people fooled pretty well.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:30 PM (2PHKP)

446 Close enough for government work!!!

Posted by: Ooolala at January 05, 2017 01:31 PM (pT4xW)

447 I will agree to the sliminess of Assange, but as someone who reads WikiLeaks (due to the piss poor investigative ability of our own press) what he is saying about the leak is truth. Why? Because way back before Trump was the Republican nominee, when everyone (except for a few smart guys/gals on this blog) believed Hillary would win he came out and said that the emails were from a source inside the DNC. He has never said directly, but after the death of Seth Rich he put up a reward for info on Seth Rich's death and stated in a WikiLeaks press release that he had another DNC source in hiding. Now he never directly says Seth Rich leaked info to him, but he did say he had a DNC leak in hiding. Unless Assange has the ability to see into the future and knew how the election would turn out, why make these statements earlier this year? Seriously if you truly believe Assange is an anti-American A*hole getting us in a situation with Russia is a dream come true. It just doesn't make sense that he is lying about where he got his information.

Posted by: lightning at January 05, 2017 01:31 PM (pwONV)

448 Hollywood Moonbat Nancy Sinatra Apologizes To The Man Who Saved America, Barack Obama, For The Unprecedented Racism He Faced

That's why the Lady is a Tramp.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2017 01:31 PM (ul9CR)

449 I saw balance of powers back when GWB was president. They were good.


Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:29 PM (2PHKP)



Too much drum.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2017 01:31 PM (TOk1P)

450 >>> Sadly, you get more timely and accurate news from the Daily Mail than you do from the MFM.
....

I get more timely and accurate information from a magic 8 ball and magic weather rock than I do from the MFM.

Perhaps they need to go back to hiring fortune tellers and doing horoscopes. At least then they had entertainment value.

Posted by: Damiano at January 05, 2017 01:32 PM (71OEY)

451 The best guess I can come up with is that Russia thinks that we may back out of NATO, or change our obligations within NATO. If Putin wanted to move into the Baltic states or Poland, he may feel he has a better chance with Trump in the WH rather than Clinton.



Who sold Russia our uranium?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2017 01:32 PM (dSqvH)

452 It's almost like this admin is playing politics to delegitimize the incoming administration. I wish someone would point out the only reason Podesta getting hacked is important is because he directly emailed the Secretary of State who was operating email on a private server on which she trafficked classified material.

Posted by: no good deed at January 05, 2017 01:32 PM (hJamr)

453 nood

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 05, 2017 01:32 PM (WGxp4)

454 That's why the Lady is a Tramp.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2017 01:31 PM (ul9CR)

outstanding!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2017 01:32 PM (sRFAL)

455 Nancy darling, you are pretty irrelevant. Have another martini and then go back to bed.

Posted by: Cheri at January 05, 2017 01:32 PM (oiNtH)

456 Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 05, 2017 01:29 PM (WTSFk)

Never speak of pushing Hillary's button again.

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 05, 2017 01:33 PM (eXSOZ)

457 I forgot, what were the big whistleblower releases against Russia or China? Big countries he targets are US and the West.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 05, 2017 01:27 PM (TfgXH)

He actually gave an interview where he answered this very question.

WikiLeaks is an English site... known in the West for whistle blowing.

Russians don't send stuff to it, because they primarily publish in English.



It would be like publishing the Podesta Emails on the Peking Times Website... in Mandarin... not very effective for Russian whistleblowers.


He has published stuff about Russia and China when they got it... but the information they disseminate comes from Whistle blowers...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 05, 2017 01:33 PM (qf6WZ)

458 you've heard of the reductio ad absurdum argument, right? obama is a regular at this straw man set-up.

we've been seeing a lot of the reductio ad hitlerum attacks recently at trump (a phrase coined by leo strauss in 1952!).

now we've got the reductio ad putinum argument. i expect it will actually have a short shelf life.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 05, 2017 01:34 PM (WTSFk)

459
I forgot, what were the big whistleblower releases against Russia or China? Big countries he targets are US and the West.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 05, 2017 01:27 PM (TfgXH)


Maybe thats because in the west we glorify and protect whistleblowers and in Russia and China they get a bullet

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2017 01:34 PM (lKyWE)

460 Alright. Thought experiment.

Why the fuck would leftwing Putin, use what was up to recently viewed as leftwing, Wikileaks, to damage leftwing party in the United States to favor the rightwing party in the United States, even to the point of exterminating the leftwing party in the United States?


What am I missing?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:34 PM (Gh3fw)

461 Folks, take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard for a moment.

Remember when Barry said he'd retaliate at a time and place of his choosing?

He's the bestest at everything. Which means he's a better hacker than any of those Rooski hacks.

Even now, he's handing his beer to Mike, and saying "I got this."

Chill. It's a gimme putt.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 05, 2017 01:35 PM (ZW0fw)

462 431
>>>Since Assange' MO is being a whistleblower and he's in hot
water from GOVERNMENTS for telling the truth about what they are doing, I
will just assume that when Assange says it wasn't the Russians or any
state entity, he's telling me the truth.



I forgot, what were the big whistleblower releases against Russia or China? Big countries he targets are US and the West.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 05, 2017 01:27 PM (TfgXH)

Assange isn't the hacker. He just releases the hacks.

Maybe no one is hacking the Chinese as much because they have very tight controls over the internet in china? Maybe Russia and China aren't nearly corrupt as Washington DC? Who knows. What I know is that Assange gave me information I didn't previously have regarding Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

Remind me again why Debbie Wasserman Schultz was fired?

Because of a 'fake' Russian hack?


Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:35 PM (2PHKP)

463 If the Russians can hack our elections we'll have to fix them so Democrats can't cheat.

Posted by: DaveA at January 05, 2017 01:35 PM (8J/Te)

464

Only idiots would believe that IF Russia wanted to ensure a Trump victory, they would have relied on the Podesta emails. Sure, there was bad crap in there (Donna Brazile cheating, etc.) but absolutely nothing so over the top that it ensured that Trump (who was reportedly well down in the polls) would win.

As someone else also questioned, WHY would Putin want Trump? Sure, he hates Hillary, but this is not a popularity contest.

But the dumb children at the DNC view it that way, so that is how they think the world operates.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at January 05, 2017 01:36 PM (CLKfs)

465 The Democrats never specifically denied the truth of a particular email. Their strategy, instead, seemed to be to decry "doctored emails" and "possible fakes", and then move on.

-
The Planned Parenthood videos have been debunked.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at January 05, 2017 01:36 PM (Nwg0u)

466 One thing is for certain; the past year has exposed a lot of what's been hidden in politics. We've been calling it masks being ripped off, but it is organizations, groups, and government agencies too, not just individuals.

What is the Senate now, 54R-46D?
Can we not just put McDickholster, McLame and Grahmnesty on the side of the aisle where they belong? The remaining R's could change the filibuster rule and still win if they wanted to.

if they wanted to....oh. Nevermind.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 01:37 PM (kKHcp)

467 You can say there is no evidence that the Russians did the hack. What we do know is that the Chinese undeniably hacked us and gained access to personal information. Obama's response was to do nothing. (And Josh Earnest explained why that was totally okay yesterday.) It would lead us to think the standard Obama response to hacks is to do nothing. Why would he care about this one? Oh yeah, Hillary lost.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 05, 2017 01:37 PM (cJDvr)

468
414 Another lie to add to the DNC pile: that guy who now claims he meant to tell Podesta the phishing scam email was "ILLegitimate" but accidentally said it was legitimate.

Laughable. If he was suspicious, he would say it was a scam, a trap, a phony, suspicious, etc. He would NOT say "that email is illegitimate."


The legitimate/illegitamate "mistake" is pure BS distraction.

The knothead told Podesta to change his password - which is exactly how a phishing scam gains entry to your email account.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 05, 2017 01:37 PM (TJx8f)

469 Seriously if you truly believe Assange is an anti-American A*hole getting us in a situation with Russia is a dream come true. It just doesn't make sense that he is lying about where he got his information.
Posted by: lightning

Publishing information from an insider is vastly different than publishing information gained from intelligence ops by a foreign power.


It makes a lot of sense to try the red baiting; it rallies support AND it covers your incompetence and the fact that your own people hate your guts.

Posted by: beautiful people at January 05, 2017 01:38 PM (326rv)

470 Never speak of pushing Hillary's button again.
Posted by: Sporkatus at January 05, 2017 01:33 PM


Easy for you to say. You're not the one who has to give a licking and keep on ticking.

Posted by: Huma's "Timex" at January 05, 2017 01:38 PM (ZW0fw)

471 >>What am I missing?

TRUMP.

He's being nice to Putin, which means he'll [insert your choice of hysterical claims here].

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 05, 2017 01:39 PM (gTQoY)

472 Watching the youngers hit that little keyboard with their thumbs at a rate that would make 70's typists jealous is amazing. I can't do that.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 05, 2017 12:57 PM (kKHcp)


Stylus is convenient for a lot of people.

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at January 05, 2017 01:39 PM (2x9LM)

473 452
It's almost like this admin is playing politics to delegitimize the
incoming administration. I wish someone would point out the only reason
Podesta getting hacked is important is because he directly emailed the
Secretary of State who was operating email on a private server on which
she trafficked classified material.


Posted by: no good deed at January 05, 2017 01:32 PM (hJamr)

This, twice on Sunday and four times tomorrow.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:39 PM (2PHKP)

474 So why release the Podesta e-mails if they information they can use as leverage against a Clinton administration?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic
----------
THIS.

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 01:41 PM (8b+oT)

475 >>>Maybe thats because in the west we glorify and protect whistleblowers and in Russia and China they get a bullet
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 05, 2017 01:34 PM (lKyWE)

DING DING DING
Assange is not some noble fellow doing the Lord's Work, he's a coward who knows which countries will kill him and which won't and slings his shit accordingly. Trump in the White House isn't going to change the fact that Assange will damage US interests every chance he gets.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 05, 2017 01:41 PM (TfgXH)

476 Alright. Thought experiment.

Why the fuck would leftwing Putin, use what was up to recently viewed as leftwing, Wikileaks, to damage leftwing party in the United States to favor the rightwing party in the United States, even to the point of exterminating the leftwing party in the United States?


What am I missing?
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:34 PM (Gh3fw)

I'm not sure Putin is leftwing. He's a Russian nationalist, not a commie true believer like, say, Michael Moore. Anything that damages America's authority is good for Russia. So casting doubt on the election might be a useful gambit.

Putin always has multiple angles of attack. If one doesn't work, he has others. He's really good at this. If Hilary won, she's weakened by the revelations. If Trump wins, he seems more likely to avoid a confrontation with Russia, and he gets to throw his regional weight around.

All just a guess on my part. I don't even know if the Russians were behind the Podesta links. But Russians DO hack us, as do the Chinese.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 05, 2017 01:41 PM (sh70B)

477 Obama is restarting the cold war because Podesta was an idiot.
Posted by: Lauren at January 05, 2017 12:36 PM (vkB8G)
------------

Wouldn't it be hilarious if some moron clicking on a phishing link started WWIII?

Makes the start of WWI seem reasonable by comparison.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 05, 2017 01:41 PM (xeeHA)

478 >>>Remind me again why Debbie Wasserman Schultz was fired?

Because the Donks have been getting their ass beat since 2010 except for Obama.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 05, 2017 01:43 PM (TfgXH)

479 Democrat politicians and their accomplices are perfidious!

Pray for America!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2017 01:44 PM (tOcW/)

480 As my late uncle (intelligence research analyst for the US State Dept) told me long ago:

If your communications are intercepted, that's YOUR fault.

Posted by: The Truth at January 05, 2017 01:44 PM (3myMJ)

481 Wouldn't it be hilarious if some moron clicking on a phishing link started WWIII?

"99 E-Mails"

Posted by: songs the left will never sing at January 05, 2017 01:44 PM (326rv)

482 Speaking of leaks...

Posted by: Seth Rich, DNC Leaker, shot in the head at January 05, 2017 01:44 PM (8b+oT)

483 I'm not sure Putin is leftwing...

All just a guess on my part. I don't even know if the Russians were behind the Podesta links. But Russians DO hack us, as do the Chinese.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 05, 2017 01:41 PM (sh70B)

Putin is the product of communism and he's an authoritarian despot. To me, that puts him left of our preferred form of govt.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at January 05, 2017 01:45 PM (Gh3fw)

484 469: It makes a lot of sense to try the red baiting; it rallies support AND it covers your incompetence and the fact that your own people hate your guts.

I am not following your thought train. Who is red baiting? WikiLeaks?

Posted by: lightning at January 05, 2017 01:45 PM (pwONV)

485 Oh FFS just stop with the Seth Rich conspiracy theory.
:::roll eyes:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 05, 2017 01:46 PM (TfgXH)

486 469: It makes a lot of sense to try the red baiting; it rallies support AND it covers your incompetence and the fact that your own people hate your guts.

I am not following your thought train. Who is red baiting? WikiLeaks?
Posted by: lightning

The current administration and the MFM are. they are throwing out these spurious claims and taking petty action to cover their stupidity and failure.

Posted by: songs the left will never sing at January 05, 2017 01:47 PM (326rv)

487 478
>>>Remind me again why Debbie Wasserman Schultz was fired?



Because the Donks have been getting their ass beat since 2010 except for Obama.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 05, 2017 01:43 PM (TfgXH)

As I recall, DWS was fired for the DNC's attempt to back Hillary and surpress Bernie.
That was exposed by Assange. Which means the shit that was exposed by Wikileaks isn't falsified. Which means the DNC and the Clinton's are corrupt fuckers.

I don't care who the messenger is. I care about the message.


Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:47 PM (2PHKP)

488 485
Oh FFS just stop with the Seth Rich conspiracy theory.

:::roll eyes:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 05, 2017 01:46 PM (TfgXH)

With as much fervor as you dismiss the curious death of Seth Rich, you should instead investigate all sides and remain open to all possibilities.


Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:49 PM (2PHKP)

489
1. Democrats say they're going to "reset" relations with Russia

2. Democrat presidential campaign chairman falls for "reset" password phishing email

3. Democrats try to "reset" for WWIII


Geniuses, folks. Geniuses.

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 01:50 PM (8b+oT)

490 "Also, why would Russia want to undermine our voting process if Trump was indeed an ally they wanted to work with?"

If the Russians were behind the leaks, it seems likely to me that they, like everyone else, assumed that Hillary! was a shoo-in. In that light, it seems to me that the Russians intended not to elect Trump, but to weaken Hillary!. If she had won, she would be hamstrung by everything that had come out during the election, which would suit Putin to a 'T'. But Trump screwed up their plans by winning.

Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2017 01:52 PM (xgyfF)

491 The only reason any of this happened is a laughable incompetent attitude toward security. They probably only knew Podesta's email account because they hacked Hillary's server in the first place.

Foreign intelligence agencies are going to hack . They just are. Forever.

The real fault lies with absolute imbeciles like Podesta and Clinton who shouldn't be allowed within twenty feet of an email account.

If I ran my infrastructure like this, I'd not only get fired but probably get sued into oblivion/do time.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 05, 2017 01:53 PM (xeeHA)

492 Too much drum.


not enough cowbell.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 05, 2017 01:53 PM (LTHVh)

493 "22 This whole thing reeks of the Sony "hack" where they now have so much invested in this theory they will just keep doubling down in the lies that be publicly humiliated.

Trump and the Congress need to reform the civil service and start firing people en masse.

The CIA, State Dept and NSA are full of Valerie Plame types that will kneecap Trump at every opportunity and will even start a war on false pretenses if they don't get their way on elections."

The CIA and the other sixteen intelligence agencies have missed every single event of import since telling Congress Russia was about to overtake the US economically just months before the USSR collapsed. You nailed it here. They lied, per usual, and even busted will continue to persist in their lies.

For our national security's sake, the entire intelligence community needs to be reorganized and the axe swung to cut out the rot, which runs deep. American intelligence is corrupt and incompetent as all hell but pretty good at politics (or was, until social media fucked up everything for them and their DNC paymasters).

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 05, 2017 01:56 PM (Nte1k)

494 uhhhh. . . it was my defective earpiece?

Posted by: The DNC at January 05, 2017 02:00 PM (4AVeu)

495 I just don't get the uproar over this issue (Russia, WikiLeaks, election, etc.). As a victim of the fact that both the Russians and Chinese have hacked government personnel files the concept that foreign countries hack us is not news. Second, we all know for fact that Clinton had a home-brew server that according to the FBI was "probably" hacked (now if they can hack a secure server with my families personal information on a government server I find it hard to believe the Russians lacked the ability to hack the server in Hillary's bathroom - just saying). Fact, in the early part of this year Assange says he has information on the DNC and particular people in the DNC due to a leak in the DNC. NOW, after the election when the person everybody thought would win does not, NOW we are concerned that the "Russian Hacked the election". Really? If you believe there is no evidence of pizza gate, you cannot believe that the Podesta or DNC emails are part of a Russian conspiracy to screw with our elections. It doesn't make sense. If you were Putin would you want Trump or the woman who you have so much information on you can blackmail her from now until she leaves office? I am sorry but this is just too hard to believe. I don't even believe that the Podesta/DNC emails had that much of an impact. Most people (even conservatives)don't read WikiLeaks because of Assange. How can something that the MSN didn't report on, that most people didn't read, be a grand conspiracy by Russia to ensure Trump was elected? It makes no sense.

Posted by: lightning at January 05, 2017 02:00 PM (pwONV)

496 But Trump screwed up their plans by winning.



Posted by: Brown Line
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One would wait a few weeks until after the election to make sure she actually won, and then weaken her. That's what makes me believe this was not Russia. They would want the weakest, most manipulative, most easily verified as corrupt candidate to win, which easily was Hillary.

The only angle I can think of that makes sense Russia wanted Trump in the White House is because they believe he will actually help them fight ISIS. So good on them if that's the case.

Posted by: Dang at January 05, 2017 02:00 PM (8b+oT)

497 The Federal Bureau of Investigation Imagination.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 05, 2017 02:01 PM (4AVeu)

498 I'm trying to think of some reason the DNC would prefer a private company investigated their servers instead of the FBI.....

Posted by: Stan at January 05, 2017 02:04 PM (n8g88)

499 486 songs the left will never sing at January 05, 2017 01:47 PM (326rv

I agree. I think this whole thing is the inability of the RHINO's and the democracts to come to terms with the fact that Hillary lost the election. Ace's posts have highlighted how unhinged some have acted since her loss. It is very weird and very sad.

Posted by: lightning at January 05, 2017 02:08 PM (pwONV)

500 Hey John McCain stop drinking the kool-aid, its rotting your old senile brain

Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2017 02:18 PM (5sOEp)

501 only a clean sweep will save the founder's plan. the screaming babies must be put down. I do not believe the fortitude to do this exist.

Posted by: talgus da deplorable at January 05, 2017 02:21 PM (fJQAI)

502 Awesome! Look on the bright side, we have John McCain and Lindsey Graham on our team.

Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2017 02:25 PM (qj98/)

503 "Second, although some DNC jackass says this private firm Crowdstrike is "pretty good," I'll tell you what they also are -- they are paid by the DNC."


Apparently 17 different US intelligence agencies also rely extremely heavily on them. Which to me would be of more concern than whether or not Russia hacked Podesta.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 05, 2017 02:31 PM (kfcYC)

504 Fuck this is so obvious in it's fakery. This is pathetic even for Obama / Clinton. The fact that McCain and Graham jumped on board just further proves they're asshats who need to be primaried.

Posted by: the extremely deplorable and very racist, sexist, bigotted and homophobic james at January 05, 2017 02:43 PM (jxw6R)

505 142 132 Crowdstrike is endpoint protection and incident response. They can
probably tell where the malware originated, but probably not who
actually did it. Besides, that stuff is available, for free, pretty
much anywhere you look.

====

Ah. I see you have the machine that goes "BING!".
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 05, 2017 12:22 PM (toH8T)

Compete with them, actually. And they are "pretty good".

Posted by: Lost My Cookies at January 05, 2017 02:44 PM (nMmK1)

506 >>>With as much fervor as you dismiss the curious death of Seth Rich, you should instead investigate all sides and remain open to all possibilities.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 05, 2017 01:49 PM (2PHKP)

Fervor? It's just eye-rolling. The same dismissal I gave to Scalia murder conspiracy talk or Pizzagate blood sex Magick talk. There's no there there. Baseless speculation is not deep thought, it's just intellectual masturbation.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 05, 2017 02:47 PM (TfgXH)

507 Banana Splits Guy is a Russian agent in collusion with the DNC.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 05, 2017 02:54 PM (Kucy5)

508 Can we outsource the fighting of the upcoming Cold War with Russia to the Israelis? They're up to it and could probably use the cash.

Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at January 05, 2017 03:25 PM (vI+F1)

509 The whole Intel community needs to be reformed.

And don't forget, McCain, and Egg McMuffin - CIA stooge, are fully supporting attacking Russia over this none issue, complete with the Media's help of course.

Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at January 05, 2017 05:06 PM (A5STV)

510 Late and no one will read this...but why doesn't the GOP mention this:

"Whether leaked...as is presumed, or hacked, which is doubtful...why not shine light on the fact that Clinton's team deliberately communicated with media of their scheme to defeat Sanders? Why not shine light on the pay to play of the Sec of State and her Foundation?

Whether leaked...as is believed and was believed last summer as stated by many...or hacked...wikileaks shined a very bright light on corruption as well as an insecure Internet set up by the Clintons. This insecure set up has been noted to have been seen by five foreign agents, as it was so simple to hack and illegal. Podesta losing his phone in a cab as well as being phished are the cherries on top for how easily they were compromised.

Cybersecurity was discussed many years ago but this administration did nothing to prevent it. They did nothing to prevent the Clinton cartel from their illegal servers, the many lost devices, nor her pay to play Foundation.

Instead of pointing fingers at Russia why not look in the mirror, oh ye Dims, and see your complete failure to launch."

Note: This is why I am not in Congress. Bite moi.xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,Deplorable Infidel Queen at January 05, 2017 05:23 PM (fq4ih)

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