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The Devil Exists: The Horrifying and Heartbreaking Tale of Rosemary Kennedy [Warden]

When I was a younger man, I would have confidently told you that Satan is simply a necessary personification of the concept of evil, used in the Bible to make a somewhat nebulous idea more concrete in order to help readers better grasp the importance of God's law and love.

I viewed evil as the absence of God, something passive rather than an engaging force that wills its twisted desire upon humanity.

I don't believe that anymore. I believe that Satan is real and that he actively works toward the destruction of men's souls.

There are many reasons that I believe this, one among them the tale of Rosemary Kennedy. It's a story long hidden from the American people. Even now, most don't know the awful details of what the Kennedy family did to their own flesh and blood. I'm going to tell that story because it's one that every American should know. Before continuing, I will give you this above-the-fold warning, her story will leave you angry, sickened, and filled with grief.

Rosemary Kennedy was the third child of Joe and Rose Kennedy. She was born in 1918. Rose's delivery doctor was late in arriving to the birth, so the nurse instructed Rose to keep her legs pushed together until he arrived. It has been speculated that this act deprived the newborn of oxygen, leading to her mental disabilities after birth.

The Kennedy's have long described Rosemary as "mentally retarded," however there is evidence that she may have simply been learning disabled or, perhaps, slightly below average IQ.

Rosemary twice failed kindergarten and was given an IQ test that put her IQ between 65-70. By 13 years old, she was shipped of to a private school to be educated by nuns. By 15, she was reading at a 4th grade level. No one outside immediate family suspected that there was anything at all wrong with her.

Rosemary loved shopping, tea parties, social functions and dances. By accounts, her brothers adored her. She was a beautiful and vivacious young woman, as evidenced by the picture below.

rosemary.jpg

As Rosemary grew older, she became increasingly hostile to the idea that she couldn't to things that the other children could. She began to rebel, sneaking out at night from the convent they'd sent her to and occasionally meeting up with men.

Joe Kennedy was worried that she might cause the family embarrassment and hurt their political prospects. When Rosemary was 23 years old, Joe decided to put an end to his worries by having Rosemary lobotomized. This procedure was new to medicine, having been performed only about 80 times in the U.S. when he made his decision.

Joe didn't tell anyone in his family what he was going to do. Instead, he had the operation conducted in secret at George Washington University Hospital. The following describes the horrific, satanic procedure that followed.


"We went through the top of the head, I think she was awake. She had a mild tranquilizer. I made a surgical incision in the brain through the skull. It was near the front. It was on both sides. We just made a small incision, no more than an inch."

The instrument Dr. Watts used looked like a butter knife. He swung it up and down to cut brain tissue. "We put an instrument inside", he said. As Dr. Watts cut, Dr. Freeman put questions to Rosemary. For example, he asked her to recite the Lord's Prayer or sing "God Bless America" or count backwards..... "We made an estimate on how far to cut based on how she responded." ..... When she began to become incoherent, they stopped.

The operation left the beautiful young woman you saw in the picture above palsied, incontinent, unable to speak and with the IQ of a 2 year old child.

Joe Kennedy then hid his crime by shipping Rosemary off to a mental institution, where she was not allowed to leave the grounds as other patients were. At some time during her stay, she was sexually abused. Joe then sent her to St. Coletta School for Exceptional Children to be cared for by nuns. For 20 years, no one from her family visited and none apparently cared enough to press the family patriarch for details about what had happened to her.

Shortly after Joe Kennedy's death, Rosemary's mother, Rose Kennedy, decided to reunite with her. Here is a description from the Daily Mail about what happened next.

Rose decided to visit and Rosie waited for her arrival with two nuns at the airport in Milwaukee. When Rosie sighted her mother deboarding the plane, she ran to her. Rose opened her arms to greet her daughter and Rosie raised her arms and beat her mother on the chest shrieking.

'Rosemary knew her mother had not been with her when she needed her most.' She was very angry.

Other Kennedy members began to visit Rosemary somewhat regularly, including brother Ted and sisters Jean, Pat and Eunice. Bobby and Jack never did.

Eunice eventually went on to form the Special Olympics, a noble cause and yet another in countless examples of God turning acts of evil into works of good.

Yet even today, the Special Olympics website whitewashes the true story of Rosemary, stating only that one of the Kennedy's own suffered from mental retardation.

Left unsaid is that Rosemary was a perfectly healthy, full functional young woman until her father decided that wealth and power were more important than his little girl.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:23 PM




Comments

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1 Well, you did warn me about how I would feel, and I read it anyway, so I deserve it.


Posted by: BuckIV at November 17, 2016 08:28 PM (CLfqv)

2 Damn them all to hell.

Posted by: tbodie at November 17, 2016 08:29 PM (V+bdf)

3 I feel like throwing up. Barbaric. Sadistic. Unkind. Inhumane. Unloving. Shameful.

And then to never visit? Shonda

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 08:30 PM (t/m9f)

4 23 yrs old and left to rot by her own family. Damn them all to hell.

Posted by: tbodie at November 17, 2016 08:30 PM (V+bdf)

5 But hey, they're American Royalty, so they got that going for them, which is nice.

Posted by: GuyfromNH at November 17, 2016 08:31 PM (5zfq1)

6 An awful family

Posted by: wooga at November 17, 2016 08:31 PM (M3K4H)

7

I guess old Joe hadn't invented the "Liverpool Pathway" for her yet

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 08:31 PM (t/m9f)

8 You are right, it's an infuriating story. Thanks for putting it out there. Talk about the war on women.

I'd be remiss if I did not mention that my mother, a first generation American, whose mother was born and raised in Northern Ireland, hated the Kennedy family with the burning heat of a thousand suns.

Posted by: jocon307 at November 17, 2016 08:31 PM (4WPdG)

9 Then, there is this: bad very bad
http://tinyurl.com/zgbj2vq

Posted by: G6loq at November 17, 2016 08:32 PM (AICRw)

10 By 15, she was reading at a 4th grade level.

That would be better than average for most of today's public high schools. It would be top of the class for urban schools.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 17, 2016 08:32 PM (zc3Db)

11 PRAYER TO SAINT MICHAELTHE ARCHANGEL

St. Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the Devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
and do thou,
O Prince of the heavenly hosts,
by the power of God,
thrust into hell Satan,
and all the evil spirits,
who prowl about the world
seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen..

Just sayin'.... Evil is here on earth.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'more cowbell please' at November 17, 2016 08:32 PM (mBYZv)

12 I thought i had found the bottom of the cesspool that is the Kennedy family. Then this.

Damn them all to hell.

Posted by: tbodie at November 17, 2016 08:32 PM (V+bdf)

13 Poor Rosemary.....but f the Kennedy's.

One less to re-produce from that clan is a good thing.

Edward Moore Kennedy was retarded and he became Senator for Life from Massachusetts.

Says a lot about the voters of Massachusetts.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 17, 2016 08:33 PM (ej1L0)

14 Apparently evil has a way of spreading genetically. Another reason to despise "dynasty's" of any kind.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 08:34 PM (SeD0w)

15 But Trump locked a reporter in a closet.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 17, 2016 08:34 PM (IqV8l)

16
All you have to do is turn on your TV at any time of the day and watch the Fake News channels to see Satan, a.k.a. The Great Deceiver, is very real.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 08:34 PM (uUXAI)

17 Lobotomy was even used as a treatment on soldiers who suffered from extreme shell shock.This was just Joe Kennedy being scum.I'm sure the embarrassment he feared was her getting pregnant.

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2016 08:35 PM (r/0kC)

18 Coffee break's over, Joe. Back on your knees.

Posted by: Satan's Barbed Cock at November 17, 2016 08:35 PM (Tyii7)

19 Khaleesi Trump destroyed House Clinton & House Bush. Just House Kennedy left.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 08:36 PM (7qAYi)

20 I've been trying for years to get the Kennedy family recipe for Spirit Cooking!

Posted by: John Podesta at November 17, 2016 08:36 PM (hA1V+)

21 How could a father do that to his child?

Posted by: gman at November 17, 2016 08:36 PM (5yj16)

22 Yes, but Donald Trump is a Nazi.

Joe Kennedy Sr. did a LOT of things that are particularly repulsive and unpleasant.
When the country was struggling after the 1929 Stock Market crash, Joe (and a lot of other very wealthy people) continued to short stocks, making money on the decline. With the market being as it was in those days, there is a strong belief now that that really drove the market down and the country into a deeper recession.
Joe, of course, was Ambassador to the United Kingdom in the run up and during the beginning of WWII. He was so anti-British and had some open sympathies to......Germany (Nazis?), that the British government actually requested that Franklin Roosevelt remove him as Ambassador. And he did.

He once came home from a tennis match with a much younger woman, while Rose was having lunch with Lyndon Johnson (at that time, Senate Majority Leader) and another prominent Democrat. Joe very noisily went upstairs and had sex with this younger woman.

Of all the Kennedy sons, Robert was actually most like his father. Very smart, very ruthless, very unprincipled.
It's no wonder a lot of them turned out like they did.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 17, 2016 08:37 PM (S6Pax)

23 For 20 years, no one from her family visited and none apparently cared enough to press the family patriarch for details about what had happened to her.

The Kennedys are a family of sociopaths. They have no feeling for anything. That's why leftists idolize them so much.

A bunch of despicable, putrid lowlifes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 17, 2016 08:37 PM (zc3Db)

24

Old Joe was worried about a family embarrassment that might hurt the families political prospects she he has head brain scrambled

Yet he, and Ted, and JFK and RFK screwed everything they could, all the while abusing drugs and booze

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 08:37 PM (t/m9f)

25 I knew most of this story, in broad, general outline form.

F*ck that entire clan. F*ck every last person involved in this atrocity and all the others of its kind. My son has autism - i know what they used to do to people with his condition. Our treatment of our innocents is the standard by which we should be judged.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:37 PM (pKF9w)

26
Well, the procedure was new back then, and they didn't know then what we know now.

It takes a lot of experimentation before you get it to work, not like Global Warming. That we can calculate.

Sometimes there are adverse effects. That is why you have to sign a waiver. In rare cases the bear eats you.

Posted by: Bud Wrongly, Brain Surgeon at November 17, 2016 08:38 PM (Mgw0v)

27 How could a father do that to his child?

Joe didn't value his daughters-- only his sons.

Posted by: Basement Cat at November 17, 2016 08:38 PM (3C9q2)

28 Horrid, but unlikely this is the only wicked tale the hero's of the left have perpetrated.

But Trump said pussy. And the GOP is the most evil entity on the face of the earth. And Bernie should have won.

If the truth was ever revealed, most would think its too gruesome to be true.

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 17, 2016 08:38 PM (K2T58)

29 F the whole Kennedy clan and their memory

Posted by: Jeff E. at November 17, 2016 08:39 PM (1yOGV)

30 9 Then, there is this: bad very bad
http://tinyurl.com/zgbj2vq
Posted by: G6loq at November 17, 2016 08:32 PM (AICRw)

Evil is bubbling up to the surface. Small wonder exorcisms are so in demand now.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 08:39 PM (7qAYi)

31 I'm sure the embarrassment he feared was her getting pregnant.

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2016 08:35 PM (r/0kC)


Then he could have just had her tubes tied.

A lobotomy? Man, that's just beyond words.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 17, 2016 08:39 PM (zc3Db)

32 This is one reason I hate when people put the Bush 'political dynasty' in same category as the Kennedys and Clintons.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 17, 2016 08:39 PM (IDPbH)

33 I had heard about this before. It was further confirmation that Poppa Kennedy was cold blooded and evil. I believe that his male children were little better but had to be slightly, and only slightly, more circumspect due to their greater public exposure and required personae. The drowned secretary at may disagree.

I've been pissed at Book Bub lately because they have been pushing crap like "Johnny, We Hardly Knew Ye" and "Sons of Camelot". All the horrible things done by that family and decades later they still are honored by a**holes. Disgusting!

Posted by: JTB at November 17, 2016 08:40 PM (V+03K)

34 He more or less killed her

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 08:40 PM (t/m9f)

35 Well, the procedure was new back then, and they didn't know then what we know now.

Posted by: Bud Wrongly, Brain Surgeon at November 17, 2016 08:38 PM (Mgw0v)


They knew that cutting the brain was an extremely drastic step and that they had no clue what the effects would really be.

Cutting ones head open and operating on the brain has always been known to be a very scary and dangerous procedure. You didn't have to be a doctor to know that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 17, 2016 08:41 PM (zc3Db)

36 What's just as disgusting is that the Portuguese neurologist who invented lobotomy shared the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1949.

Posted by: Basement Cat at November 17, 2016 08:41 PM (3C9q2)

37 Bobby and Jack never did.


Karma is a bitch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:41 PM (SRKgf)

38 I thought everyone knew that story about the Kennedy's. I am glad you have posted this so other people will be aware of it. They are one sick clan and Joe was the worst.

Posted by: Infidel at November 17, 2016 08:41 PM (So9FI)

39
Other Kennedy members began to visit Rosemary somewhat regularly,
including brother Ted and sisters Jean, Pat and Eunice. Bobby and Jack
never did.








That's how fucked up this branch of the family is.....TED is the better of the three sons that survived WWII.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2016 08:41 PM (LuZz8)

40 e was so anti-British and had some open sympathies to......Germany (Nazis?), that the British government actually requested that Franklin Roosevelt remove him as Ambassador. And he did.

-------------

Don't forget about Soros, the man who says Trump and his supporters are nazis, actually collaborated with the real fucking nazis.

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 17, 2016 08:42 PM (K2T58)

41 If you wonder why these people seemed to have to moral compass, look no farther then the vile cocksucker that they had as a role model. And the old lady was right behind him.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 17, 2016 08:42 PM (qJhUV)

42 I knew they had Rosemary lobotomized which was bad enough. What I didn't know was that she was just slow and living a fairly normal life (albeit in a convent). It seems her biggest sin was she might embarrass Joe publicly or worse she knew a secret about Joe and had to be silenced.

Posted by: Willy J. at November 17, 2016 08:43 PM (5YWSF)

43 In fairness, prefrontal lobotomies did not at the time have the same stigma they do now; in fact, the inventor of the procedure won the Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology, IIRC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:43 PM (SRKgf)

44 I have read of this before. Joe Kennedy was an inhuman SOB.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 17, 2016 08:43 PM (Om16U)

45 At least she was left alive after dealing with the Kennedys!

Posted by: Marilyn Monroe at November 17, 2016 08:43 PM (lRwmz)

46 This is one reason I hate when people put the Bush 'political dynasty' in same category as the Kennedys and Clintons.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 17, 2016 08:39 PM (IDPbH)

========

They are all Globalists, which is pretty bad, as this effects us all in a negative way. However, they are not individually evil on the order of the Clinton or Kennedy families.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 17, 2016 08:43 PM (U77o1)

47 Then again ... if the surgeon had been a god guy and given a family discount to have them all lobotomized I think this country might have been saved a lot of problems.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 17, 2016 08:43 PM (zc3Db)

48 36 What's just as disgusting is that the Portuguese neurologist who invented lobotomy shared the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1949.
Posted by: Basement Cat at November 17, 2016 08:41 PM (3C9q2)



Oops. Just saw this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:44 PM (SRKgf)

49 Demons - unclean spirits, usually those of deceased Nephilim, per the sages. Foul and nasty as they are, we humans give them a run for their money.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:44 PM (pKF9w)

50 37 Bobby and Jack never did.


Karma is a bitch.


So they cut out part of her brain like dissecting a frog in biology and Jack had his brains spattered on the pavement in Big D.

Yep, that's Karma baby

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 17, 2016 08:44 PM (K2T58)

51 The Kennedy family believes the rules don't apply to them...just like the Clintons.

Posted by: mpfs, DeplorableFishstick at November 17, 2016 08:44 PM (DmjLf)

52 Mary Jo Kopechne couldn't be reached for comment.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at November 17, 2016 08:45 PM (lRwmz)

53
The Horrifying and Heartbreaking Tale of Rosemary Kennedy




Luxury.

Posted by: Mary Jo Kopechne

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2016 08:45 PM (kdS6q)

54 Err ... "good guy"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 17, 2016 08:45 PM (zc3Db)

55 Now I know where George R. R. Martin got his inspiration for Tywin Lannister's character.

Posted by: weew at November 17, 2016 08:45 PM (6EH85)

56 I can't sort out if we have a vengeful God ala "Old Testament" God, but I do know the wages of sin are pain, sufferingand death. It didn't turn out too well for the K-clan. John F and Bobby both assassinated; Jackie loses JFK Jr to an arrogance induced plane crash. Teddy is allowed to live with his own sin, and judging by the way he looked premortem, that was punishment enough. There is a shit ton more addiction, death and misconduct by the other offspring, this is just my short list.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 08:45 PM (SeD0w)

57 Apropos of Rose Kennedy, she disowned her oldest daughter for marrying an Anglican rather than a Roman Catholic. When Kathleen was killed in a plane crash in 1948, Rose refused to attend the memorial service.

Posted by: Basement Cat at November 17, 2016 08:46 PM (3C9q2)

58
Joe Kennedy was one vile bastard. The only consolation is he's roasting in the Kennedy wing of hell

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 17, 2016 08:46 PM (auHtY)

59 She was very beautiful. How tragic.

Posted by: Cheri at November 17, 2016 08:47 PM (TmVQX)

60
The worst legacy of the Kennedys. They gave us LBJ as president.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 17, 2016 08:47 PM (auHtY)

61 Yep, this horrific story really helps illustrate the *true* face of the Kennedys. Nothing matters to these vapid little hyperentitled simpletons except wealth and power, and I don't think they have many fans anymore at all outside of the true believers.

Thankfully I think most voters today can see through their phoniness. Last week they did a fantastic job of seeing through Hillary's as well.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 08:47 PM (u8kLQ)

62 Joe Kennedy was truly a despicable fucking prick. I only hope he's continually being anally lobotomized in hell.

Posted by: sgr at November 17, 2016 08:48 PM (Wf+Bh)

63 56 Don't forget his oldest son Joe,killed in WW 2 .Supposedly the old man was crushed because Joe was the one who was going to be president,he didn't hold much regard for Jack.Ironically it was the whole PT 109 thing that induced Joe to volunteer for a dangerous mission.

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2016 08:48 PM (r/0kC)

64
Don't forget how the K Klan got their money.

Bootlegging during Prohibition.

So essentially, they were the near-equivalent of modern day drug lords.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2016 08:48 PM (LuZz8)

65 At some time during her stay, she was sexually abused


------------------

wanna bet Jack, Robert and her Dad never "visited"?

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 17, 2016 08:49 PM (K2T58)

66 You raise the blade you make the change
you rearrange me till im sane

you lock the door and throw away the key
there's someone in my head, but it's not me

Posted by: Rosemary Waters at November 17, 2016 08:49 PM (EZDs2)

67 Jackie loses JFK Jr to an arrogance induced plane crash. T


Should read "stupidity induced plane crash."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:49 PM (SRKgf)

68 Come on, it's not like he killed her

Posted by: Ted K at November 17, 2016 08:49 PM (EZDs2)

69 Don't forget how the K Klan got their money.

Bootlegging during Prohibition.

So essentially, they were the near-equivalent of modern day drug lords.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2016 08:48 PM (LuZz



Now let's not forget stock manipulation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:50 PM (SRKgf)

70 That plane crash saved us from another Kennedy presidency.(and contrary to fairytales the JFK presidency was a ratfuck)

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2016 08:50 PM (r/0kC)

71 I'm not a Kennedy assassination conspiracist but there was definitely a lot of organized crime connections and perceived betrayals to the Kennedys.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 17, 2016 08:51 PM (IDPbH)

72 Yeah that would be Joe Kennedy, the rum-running Nazi sympathiser, the guy who as Ambassador to England was receiving intel for Churchill and... tipping off the Germans about what he learned. He was pulled from the position but never punished.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2016 08:51 PM (39g3+)

73 So they cut out part of her brain like dissecting a frog in biology and Jack had his brains spattered on the pavement in Big D.
Yep, that's Karma baby
Posted by: Rick in SK at November 17, 2016 08:44 PM (K2T5

Yup....Kennedy was brought down with a Carcano rifle and Gandhi was brought down with a Beretta pistol.

Who says Italian firearms are junk?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 17, 2016 08:51 PM (ej1L0)

74 Repeating myself:
After what Trump has done to the Clinton and Bush dynasties he should swing by Hyanissport.

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2016 08:51 PM (8J/Te)

75 Jay, yup. Joe Kennedy was most likely a proto-Soros.

steevy, hmm. I *will* say, I think JFK actually loved his country.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 08:51 PM (u8kLQ)

76 Why is the left in such a rush to pardon Hillary?


My guess?


The reality would make this story sound like a fairy tale.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 08:52 PM (zu88C)

77
After a disabling stroke in 1961, Joseph Kennedy developed aphasia and lost all power of speech, but remained mentally intact. He was confined to a wheelchair until his death in 1969.




On a happier note, he too was sexually abused by his healthcare aids.

One would hope,

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2016 08:52 PM (kdS6q)

78 I don't have a FaceBook account so I'm still catching up with this concept of "fake news" ...

David Petraeus in the running to be Trump's secretary of state
Sources say former CIA director who pleaded guilty to mishandling classified information refuses to rule out role as battle for top cabinet posts intensifies

This must be fake or satire

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 17, 2016 08:52 PM (e8kgV)

79 The New Republic, 17 days apart, same author:

Trumps Meltdown Complete
Trump Meltdown Begins

https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/799345716879622144

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2016 08:52 PM (39g3+)

80 Just saw this on Moe Lane's site:

http://moelane.com/2016/11/16/i-bet-you-think-that-youre-tough-tough-like-stone/

It does not balance the ledger. But it is important to remember that for every evil, there is a good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 17, 2016 08:52 PM (92kX2)

81
63
56 Don't forget his oldest son Joe,killed in WW 2 .Supposedly the old
man was crushed because Joe was the one who was going to be president,he
didn't hold much regard for Jack.Ironically it was the whole PT 109
thing that induced Joe to volunteer for a dangerous mission.

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2016 08:48 PM (r/0kC)







Funny thing, Jack wouldn't have been in uniform in the first place if he'd been able to keep his dick in his pants. As I understand it, when his dad was Ambassador to the Court of St James, Jack was tomcatting throughout London and started fucking a woman who turned out to be a Nazi spy. It was hushed up, and Jack was sent back to the States to join the Navy and avoid having his indiscretions come to light.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2016 08:53 PM (LuZz8)

82 UNCLE JOE TAUGHT ME TO USE MY 3 WOOD, BITCHES!!!

Posted by: michael skakel at November 17, 2016 08:53 PM (89T5c)

83 63 56 Don't forget his oldest son Joe,killed in WW 2 .Supposedly the old man was crushed because Joe was the one who was going to be president,he didn't hold much regard for Jack.Ironically it was the whole PT 109 thing that induced Joe to volunteer for a dangerous mission.
Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2016 08:48 PM (r/0kC)


I had the impression that the chronology was the other way around, but I could be wrong.

Meanwhile, PT 109 was a cluster fuck of the first water. The only PT boat in naval history to be run down by a ship. It's kinda like a wasp getting run down by a caterpillar.

Apparently the Navy was going to court martial Kennedy for dereliction of duty (how could a SHIP bear down on a boat with its engines cut (IIRC) without being seen or heard?), but Joe managed to head it off.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:53 PM (SRKgf)

84 To make a dynasty, you need to break a few lobes

Posted by: Joe K at November 17, 2016 08:53 PM (EZDs2)

85 And lets not forget Big and Little Edie of Grey Gardens fame.

Posted by: Chupacabra at November 17, 2016 08:53 PM (/x6xU)

86 Laurie David, LOL.

Maybe the nursing staff did Joe up like "The Soldier In White" from Catch-22.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 08:54 PM (u8kLQ)

87 Poor kid.

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 08:54 PM (qUNWi)

88 Bossy conservative.

That's absolutely BS about Bobby Kennedy, he was the best Kennedy, a good man, a good AG, and father to 12

Posted by: sandy at November 17, 2016 08:54 PM (s587h)

89 I'm not sure if the Kennedy's gave LBJ the presidency as much as LBJ took it. I'm pretty sure LBJ was the one who provided the bible for the swearing in on AF 1.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 08:54 PM (SeD0w)

90 I'm not a Kennedy assassination conspiracist but there was definitely a lot of organized crime connections and perceived betrayals to the Kennedys.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 17, 2016 08:51 PM (IDPbH)

=====

This. Joe promised a lot to the Unions to get John F. elected. Then John sent Atty. General Bobby against the Mafia backed Unions of the 60s.

There also floats the rumor that John F. was intent on auditing the Fed.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 17, 2016 08:54 PM (U77o1)

91 Don't forget how the K Klan got their money.

Bootlegging during Prohibition.

So essentially, they were the near-equivalent of modern day drug lords.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2016 08:48 PM (LuZz
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Many doubt the claims of bootlegging. For one reference, link to Daily Beeast article mentioning research from book "Last Call".

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zsx8dqu

Posted by: RioBravo at November 17, 2016 08:55 PM (NUqwG)

92 She figures prominently in my version of "The Aristocrats".

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 08:55 PM (EUMr7)

93 OMG, the "Cover Boy" makeup commercial just aired. If I wore makeup, I would boycott.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 08:55 PM (7qAYi)

94 Joan Kennedy, Ted's first wife, lived down the street from me in Boston after leaving Ted. Whatever her politics, and I really don't even know what they are, she was supposedly a very nice and beautiful woman.

She was left an alcoholic who has been living the last decade under the guardianship of her kids. I'm convinced being married to Ted and all that went with it including Chappaquiddick, drove her around the bend.

Anyone who wasn't blinded by the Kennedy myth knew they were evil people.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2016 08:55 PM (/tuJf)

95 Speaking of evil and stupid

New York Times gains 41,000 subscribers after election

http://tinyurl.com/hohamo9

Another example of the retard left hating the press for misleading them and showing that by... wanting more of the same.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2016 08:56 PM (39g3+)

96 josephistan, actually I've read a surprising number of men wear makeup.

The trick is just to put on such a *thin layer*, people literally can't see it. Just enough to cover blemishes, and that's it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 08:56 PM (u8kLQ)

97

So.... The Kennedy's were Democrats, yes? Wanna see my 'shocked face'?


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at November 17, 2016 08:56 PM (kP16F)

98 Many doubt the claims of bootlegging. For one reference, link to Daily Beeast article mentioning research from book "Last Call".

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zsx8dqu

Posted by: RioBravo at November 17, 2016 08:55 PM (NUqwG)



Refuse to go to the Daily Beast, but note that many to this day doubt that the Rosenbergs were guilty as sin.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:56 PM (SRKgf)

99
Maybe the nursing staff did Joe up like "The Soldier In White" from Catch-22.
Posted by: qdpsteve



For the hospital staff Christmas party, used to dress him up like Marilyn Monroe in a wig and and a white dress.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2016 08:57 PM (kdS6q)

100 JFK' s nazi lover's code name in the intelligence community was Inga Binga.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 17, 2016 08:57 PM (89T5c)

101 Flynn is in.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 17, 2016 08:57 PM (IqV8l)

102 If there's any justice, look at how the family turned out. All the golden boys dead or wasted on booze and drugs in their prime.

Posted by: Commissar M at November 17, 2016 08:57 PM (vcIHi)

103 Laurie, LOL. And stick his chair over the floor vents... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 08:57 PM (u8kLQ)

104 Rosemary's story is heartbreaking. If her name was Rosemary Reagan, an Oscar winning movie would have been made by now.

Posted by: another joe at November 17, 2016 08:58 PM (x3Qfb)

105 The other devil is the JEF, and you'll get this in spades when reading the piece (Hot Air has a link) in the New Yorker about Obama meeting Trump last Thursday.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 17, 2016 08:58 PM (U6f54)

106 96 josephistan, actually I've read a surprising number of men wear makeup.

The trick is just to put on such a *thin layer*, people literally can't see it. Just enough to cover blemishes, and that's it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 08:56 PM (u8kLQ)

Truth be told, I actually would like to cover up the dark circles under my eyes. But that commercial was fag factor five.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 08:58 PM (7qAYi)

107 I was in kindergarten when president Kennedy was killed, they sent us home early and I was really pissed when no cartoons were on. Mom, how come the news is on every channel?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 17, 2016 08:58 PM (6Ll1u)

108 President Bobby Kennedy would have made Nixon look like Mr. Rogers.

Not just the Kennedys but their whole goddamned crew of courtiers as well (e.g. Arthur Schlesinger). See also: Air Force One on the flight back from Dallas where, instead of rallying to Johnson, behaved like pissy little children.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at November 17, 2016 08:58 PM (J8/9G)

109 Jack Kennedy was a rapist in the Clinton mold, not the "he kissed me improperly tee hee!" vapor producer. Ted Kennedy's crimes are public record. And that's still not the worst of their doings.

I actually think better of the people who killed their scions, tbh, and they were a communist and a terrorist!

Posted by: trev006 at November 17, 2016 08:58 PM (3i12u)

110 another joe, I've read a movie is in the works about Chappaquiddick. But who knows if it'll ever get completed or be released.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 08:58 PM (u8kLQ)

111 Don't blame old Joe. Any modern liberal would do the same thing if it meant more power for them.

Sadly ironic that all of Joe's grandchildren ended up being even more retarded than Rose was.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 17, 2016 08:59 PM (V2Yro)

112 That's absolutely BS about Bobby Kennedy, he was the best Kennedy, a good man, a good AG, and father to 12.

-------

Is that before or after he and his brother took turn with Marilyn Monroe.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 08:59 PM (JmjOe)

113 God gave us the Kennedys so that they would have graves.

Thereby, we'd have a place to piss.

Ergo, God loves us.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 08:59 PM (EUMr7)

114 josephistan, I think there are some how-to videos on YouTube. But I know men have done that.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 08:59 PM (u8kLQ)

115 110 another joe, I've read a movie is in the works about Chappaquiddick. But who knows if it'll ever get completed or be released.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 08:58 PM (u8kLQ)

Sure it willbe - just as soon as ABC releases "Path to 9/11"

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:00 PM (7qAYi)

116 The Kennedys are saints. Saints with a string of women's deaths, rapes, alcoholism, drug addiction, abortion, and now destroying the mind of their own.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 17, 2016 09:00 PM (Nwg0u)

117 The Kennedy family were sociopaths, criminals, and killers. The "Camelot" thing and near-deification of that particular clan of scum has always disgusted and angered me.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:00 PM (0mRoj)

118

Gen Mike Flynn is a lifelong Democrat, I believe. A huge asset on the campaign trail, unlike Mitt Romney, a Republican shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:00 PM (uUXAI)

119 The Kennedys were the Clintons but with a different funny accent.

But fewer reported rapes. There were still rapes, but fewer reported.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:01 PM (EUMr7)

120 110 another joe, I've read a movie is in the works about Chappaquiddick. But who knows if it'll ever get completed or be released.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 08:58 PM (u8kLQ)

Will it tell the truth, or depict Ted as heroically trying to save Mary Jo Kopechne?

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:01 PM (0mRoj)

121 I do wonder if Joe prevented the two oldest sons from seeing her because of optics.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 17, 2016 09:02 PM (dKiJG)

122 Herr Morgenholz, yup. The Kennedys had the advantage of there being no major alternative media in their heyday.

Today? Tons of alt media, thanks to the web.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 09:02 PM (u8kLQ)

123
Carolina Panthers look totally stupid in their blue pajama uniforms.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:02 PM (uUXAI)

124 Jezuz, I had never heard of this. Awful. But of course Calemot and shit. Ugh.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:02 PM (wD9H7)

125

Is it too late to lobotomise Bill Clinton? Y'know, to avoid any scandal and the like...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at November 17, 2016 09:02 PM (kP16F)

126 Fuck this story pisses me off.

No sleep tonight.

Poor girl. I mean what the fuck compels parents to harm their children like this or in any manner?!??!

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 09:03 PM (BKTpn)

127 122 Herr Morgenholz, yup. The Kennedys had the advantage of there being no major alternative media in their heyday.

Today? Tons of alt media, thanks to the web.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 09:02 PM (u8kLQ)

But "alt" just means white supremacist.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:03 PM (0mRoj)

128 Insomniac, LOL. I'm not taking anything for granted about the flick 'til it comes out and starts getting reviews.

Wouldn't surprise me if Hollywood turns it into pure liberal propaganda dreck.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 09:03 PM (u8kLQ)

129 Between the graves of the Kennedys, the Roosevelts, and Woodrow Wilson, I'm going to have to have a tanker truck full of beer follow me on my bucket-list tour.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:03 PM (EUMr7)

130 125

Is it too late to lobotomise Bill Clinton? Y'know, to avoid any scandal and the like...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at November 17, 2016 09:02 PM (kP16F)

Ice pick through the eye socket into the frontal lobe should do the trick.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:04 PM (0mRoj)

131 Insomniac, only to shrieking SJWs ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 09:04 PM (u8kLQ)

132 It's always dangerous to impute
Special virtue, to the cute.


Eunice was the only one of the whole bunch who was worth a damn.

Pro-life and not shy about declaring it.

Posted by: Jean Valtrump Les Deplorables at November 17, 2016 09:04 PM (kQJUi)

133 >>>But "alt" just means white supremacist.

No one had ever heard of a "white nationalist" until last Thursday at approximately 4 PM. It was right after a conference call.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:04 PM (EUMr7)

134
Speaking of satan, I still can't get over how terrible hillary clinton looked yesterday.

I loved it.

btw, if you believe hillary clinton has ever "curled up with a book" in her life, you a fool. This is a woman who spends her every waken hour scheming for power.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:05 PM (uUXAI)

135
That's absolutely BS about Bobby Kennedy, he was the best Kennedy, a good man, a good AG, and father to 12
Posted by: sandy



Banged his brother's widow like a loose screen door on a windy day.

Allegedly.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2016 09:05 PM (kdS6q)

136 No one had ever heard of a "white nationalist" until last Thursday at approximately 4 PM. It was right after a conference call.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:04 PM (EUMr7)

=====

Not true. That had been in use for months during the campaign.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 17, 2016 09:06 PM (U77o1)

137 A little O/T...was on the CBS news site....headline story about the drug epidemic in the country. Hmmmm..... for the last 7 years and 10 months, I never heard anything about this "epidemic". Strange how it all of a sudden popped up out of nowhere, huh?

Coming soon....the epidemic of homelessness that was strangely absent since Jan 2009.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:06 PM (wD9H7)

138 >>Will it tell the truth, or depict Ted as heroically trying to save Mary Jo Kopechne?

The really amazing thing is that there is zero ambiguity about what happened. If you were alive and remotely interested, you knew exactly what happened.

It's not like it happened in Afghanistan or Libya, it was right in frigging Cape Cod. And yet year after year, liberals lined up to vote for him and try to turn him into some mythical being.

He was a scumbag of the highest order.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2016 09:06 PM (/tuJf)

139
and father to 12

At least.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:06 PM (uUXAI)

140 btw, if you believe hillary clinton has ever "curled up with a book" in her life, you a fool. This is a woman who spends her every waken hour scheming for power.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:05 PM (uUXAI)

Well, maybe the Necronomicon.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:06 PM (7qAYi)

141 Soothsayer, LOL. Hillary's thought bubble in the 'home':

"If I just say some of the right things to the Head Nurse, I bet I can get more chocolate pudding than the rest of these assholes without eating all my meat..." :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 09:06 PM (u8kLQ)

142 Well,according to Ted he dove down to the car repeatedly to try and save Mary Joe.Than he went back to his hotel and only reported what happened after he spoke to a lawyer the next day.

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2016 09:06 PM (r/0kC)

143 Obama would not do that to his daughters.

Billy Jeff would not.


God forgive me for suggesting it, but I think it's possible that Hillary might.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:06 PM (afWd1)

144 >>>btw, if you believe hillary clinton has ever "curled up with a book"

You misspelled "younger sister of the Searchlight Strangler's Thirteen Year Old Victim".

Not to be pedantic.....

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:06 PM (EUMr7)

145 well, you know what Harry Truman said, when asked about the prospect of Catholic JFK as president? "It's not the Pope I worry about, it's the Pop."

Posted by: vivi at November 17, 2016 09:07 PM (11H2y)

146 Refuse to go to the Daily Beast, but note that many to this day doubt that the Rosenbergs were guilty as sin.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:56 PM (SRKgf)
-----------------------------
Re the Beast, reasonable.
Rosenbergs: Sure, there was evidence and a trial

Link to comment by "Last Call" author Daniel Okrent at link:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jt97vaz

Posted by: RioBravo at November 17, 2016 09:07 PM (NUqwG)

147 Arthur Schlesinger, the Harvard prof and Kennedy brownnoser, wrote a hagiography of Robert Kennedy which was something like 700 pages long and about 1 line was devoted to Rosemary - she had "fallen behind and was sent to live with the nuns."

I grew up not far from St. Coletta's at all and I didn't know until my early 20's that she was there. Nobody knew. I had a neighborhood friend who had a severely mentally handicapped brother who lived there. She and her family didn't even know - and they visited the place all the time.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:07 PM (P8951)

148 White Nationalist: bad

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People: double plus good

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:07 PM (wD9H7)

149 "As Rosemary grew older, she became increasingly hostile to the idea that she couldn't to things that the other children could. She began to rebel, sneaking out at night from the convent they'd sent her to and occasionally meeting up with men.
Joe Kennedy was worried that she might cause the family embarrassment and hurt their political prospects. When Rosemary was 23 years old, Joe decided to put an end to his worries by having Rosemary lobotomized."

I'm thinking a big part is what I bolded. A pregnancy could be aborted or hidden. I'm familiar w/ the story, just not the gruesome details as to how the lobotomy was done.

I think it had a lot to do w/ the fact Old Joe couldn't control her temper, and dammit she was his daughter and she was trouble and embarrassing. He controlled it all right, what a f*cking azzhole.

Posted by: Farmer at November 17, 2016 09:07 PM (o/90i)

150 Didn't Jack Kennedy tell his intern that she needed to service of his Friends because he was stressed out during the Cuban Missile Crisis, at least that's what she wrote in her book.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 17, 2016 09:07 PM (dKiJG)

151 @91: Agree. The whole bootlegging claim came about in the early 1970s. Joe had connections, and was ready to import Scotch the instant prohibition ended, and made a lot of money doing it. But there's no evidence that he did any bootlegging. And if you read about him in detail, bootlegging would not have been something he would do.

As for stock manipulation, what he did was legal. When the SEC was created, he was the first chair, and promptly made illegal some of the things he had done.

He was very good at making money. Legally. He was also a very loving father who wrote at least weekly letters to all of his kids, including Rosemary.

I think if he had known what would happen, he would not have authorized the lobotomy. It was a different time, and standards were different from now. Sweden's government ordered lobotomies well into the 1970s.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (SqaAl)

152 Good news: Hillary is writing again.
Bad news: It's a list of all the people who are going to have "accidents" in the next 12 months.

God news: Hillary is reading again.
Bad news: It's something on eugenics by Sanger.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (u8kLQ)

153 Will it tell the truth, or depict Ted as heroically trying to save Mary Jo Kopechne?

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:01 PM (0mRoj)



"I dove repeatedly to try to save her." - Ted Kennedy


Uh, the water was six feet deep. No need to dive, shithead; the door handle on the upside down car would be at waist level. So grab your dick, then reach out - you'll get it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (SRKgf)

154 But Trump treats objects like women!

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (7qAYi)

155 Don't forget....

Teddy was working for Soviets.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (JmjOe)

156 Of course I was watching live when Bobby Kennedy was gunned down live, shout out to Rosie Greer by the way, Shit happens is what you are expected

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (6Ll1u)

157 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:06 PM (afWd1)

This is a very sad thread to give someone happy birthday wishes, Miss Tammy - but happy birthday!

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (P8951)

158 >>>White Nationalist: bad


Then WTF do I call myself? Pallidly Patriotic?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (EUMr7)

159 To say

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 17, 2016 09:09 PM (6Ll1u)

160 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 17, 2016 09:10 PM (o/T1x)

161 >>>Teddy was working for Soviets.

That's bullshit. The Soviets could figure out the door of an Oldsmobile.

QED.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:10 PM (EUMr7)

162 154 But Trump treats objects like women!
Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (7qAYi)

No, that's hector, who owns a blow-up doll he's named "Melania."

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:10 PM (P8951)

163 for the last 7 years and 10 months, I never heard anything about this "epidemic"

How have you not? All the heroin ODs in every major city? All the recent videos of parents and grandparents passed out with their very young children trying to wake them?

I have no doubt the media will triple their efforts with an R in office, but this is not a new story by any means.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:10 PM (afWd1)

164 Media delenda est. I hope Trump pulls the WH press credentials of every reporter mentioned in Wikileaks that sucked up to HRC. And I hope Press Secretary Ann Coulter (PLEASE!) picks reporters by announcing "Okay, the reporter from Reuters who worked for a Labor nonprofit that doxxed political opponents.."

Posted by: vivi at November 17, 2016 09:10 PM (11H2y)

165 As for stock manipulation, what he did was legal. When the SEC was created, he was the first chair, and promptly made illegal some of the things he had done.

He was appointed chairMAN (not "chair") because he was widely known for his nefarious activities. (Set a thief and all that.)

I think if he had known what would happen, he would not have authorized the lobotomy. It was a different time, and standards were different from now. Sweden's government ordered lobotomies well into the 1970s.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (SqaAl)


You have no fucking idea what he would have done.

As for lobotomizing Scandis, that's kind of "coals to Newcastle" job, isn't it?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:10 PM (SRKgf)

166 As they say in the classics: I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

Speaking of bottles; Joe Kennedy was up to his eyebrows in the "illicit" booze business during Prohibition. A true upholder of the "law" apparently.

Prohibition was an abomination brought on by the same prissy, pursed-lipped sociopaths that infested the reign of the Obamination and were lined up, rarin' to go with Hitlery.

Posted by: Bruce at November 17, 2016 09:11 PM (nIUnC)

167 Rose Kennedy was just as bad as Joe. She pretended to be the "poor wife" but she let him do whatever he wanted to do, just so she would have the Kennedy name and money. She cared nothing for her children or her husband.

Posted by: Peggy at November 17, 2016 09:11 PM (HBU7W)

168 I know there Satan exists because people need help to be that stupid, evil and cruel. There is a great article by William Friedkin who directed the Ecorcist who interviewed Fr. Amorth, the Vatican's top exorcist, until he died.

Posted by: Iblis at November 17, 2016 09:11 PM (3gBCr)

169 Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (P8951)

Thank you, my friend!

I'll takes 'em however theyz come!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:11 PM (afWd1)

170 Its like the left that pretends Byrd was okay because he apologized and the NAACP praised him.

He apologized. For being not just an actual, real life klan member who voted against civil rights legislation repeatedly, but a klan leader and member into the 80s.

Oh but he apologized.

As for the NAACP? Proves what they're worth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2016 09:12 PM (39g3+)

171 Don't even get me started about the Kennedy thing-it's a mass psychosis here in Boston. Joe Jr, pals with Chavez who I believe was driving drunk and had a car wreck that left a girl paralyzed, Patrick, also a drug addicted hot mess, Michael who had an affair with a teenager then skied into a tree, Robert Jr whose ex wife committed suicide who just got married to that actress recently, the cousin (Skakel) who murdered that girl with a golf club in the 1970s, Joan (Ted's ex) is a raging alcoholic., the sisters JFK Jr killed in the plane crash.....I could go on and on. And people here worship the whole degenerate family-I don't get it. I saw the redhead Bro-Congressman recently on TV-"Joe III"-UGH-this state is an embarrassment, politically.

Posted by: Goldilocks at November 17, 2016 09:12 PM (pOgVG)

172 Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (SqaAl)


I thought we were through with the One Name Brigade, but apparently not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:12 PM (SRKgf)

173 How have you not? All the heroin ODs in every major city? All the recent videos of parents and grandparents passed out with their very young children trying to wake them?

I have no doubt the media will triple their efforts with an R in office, but this is not a new story by any means.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:10 PM (afWd1)

___

Sure this is around, but it's "local" stories for the most part. I haven't seen mention of a drug epidemic on a national news level.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:12 PM (wD9H7)

174 Cam Newton from MVP to WTF.

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:12 PM (qUNWi)

175 As for stock manipulation, what he did was legal. When the SEC was created, he was the first chair, and promptly made illegal some of the things he had done.

He was very good at making money. Legally. He was also a very loving father who wrote at least weekly letters to all of his kids, including Rosemary.

I think if he had known what would happen, he would not have authorized the lobotomy. It was a different time, and standards were different from now. Sweden's government ordered lobotomies well into the 1970s.
Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (SqaAl)

=======

Sorry, but this POS is now beyond judging on this rock. Save your post for Satan, who might give him a 5 minute longer break off of his head while getting barb wire nailed in the row with a lot of his family.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 17, 2016 09:12 PM (U77o1)

176 170 Its like the left that pretends Byrd was okay because he apologized and the NAACP praised him.
He apologized. For being not just an actual, real life klan member who voted against civil rights legislation repeatedly, but a klan leader and member into the 80s.
Oh but he apologized.
As for the NAACP? Proves what they're worth.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2016 09:12 PM (39g3+)



But somebody who strikes out three batters swinging? Totally racist.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:13 PM (SRKgf)

177 Nothing disgusts me more than the hagiography of the Kennedys.

Utterly contemptible white trash. And not a goddamned thing more than that.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:13 PM (EUMr7)

178 Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (SqaAl)

None so blind that refuse to see.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 17, 2016 09:14 PM (IDPbH)

179 It does not balance the ledger. But it is important to remember that for every evil, there is a good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 17, 2016 08:52 PM (92kX2)

..........

awww thank you. In a thread full of evil that was nice! I'm a hospice nurse so without a doubt I value human life but animals can bring tears to my eyes faster than most humans could...

Posted by: Molly k. at November 17, 2016 09:14 PM (IprBC)

180 I was aware of the general outline of this story, if not all the details.

But that link in #9: Hoo boy. Someone posted a different link on one of the daytime threads the other day. This looks creepy as all get out.

I do recall that someone from the NYPD was quoted as saying that they found extremely disgusting material on Weiner's computer. If this is real, I hope the lid is blown off.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 17, 2016 09:14 PM (sdi6R)

181 Ted, that bloated piece of shit, is getting cornholed with Satan's barbed cock for all eternity, with a non-stop ejaculation of white hot sand into his bowels.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:14 PM (0mRoj)

182 Teddy is the architect of the 1965 immigration bill that essentially said no more European immigration, but anyone from the 3rd World....come on in. Fast forward 2 generations and you have to press 1 for English.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:14 PM (wD9H7)

183 Bravo, Warden.

This is real, "myth busting."

Joe Kennedy was a pig amongst pigs.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 17, 2016 09:15 PM (U+nHb)

184 it wasn't that Joe wanted to control her temper, it was her alledged catting around that had him worried. he knew this was going to end up scandalous and he simply couldn't have it.

and as for mommy dearest, when daddy sent her away mommy narry spoke a peep when daddy told her Rosemary simply left. what kind of a mother is that?

Posted by: sally at November 17, 2016 09:15 PM (kxT6D)

185 Posted by: Goldilocks at November 17, 2016 09:12 PM (pOgVG)

I lived in Boston for a while back when, and stupid old bitches on the bus, overhearing a radio report that Rose Kennedy was in hospital, used to make the Sign of the Cross.

Of course, if they'd shown up at the Kennedy "compound," Rose would've set the dogs on them, but they were too stupid to realize that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:15 PM (SRKgf)

186 @177 wait til you see what they write about Obama

Posted by: Iblis at November 17, 2016 09:15 PM (3gBCr)

187 I remember when "Jon Jon" crashed and silly people were upset.

I was like whaa? Who?

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:15 PM (qUNWi)

188 Left unsaid is that Mary Jo was a perfectly healthy, full functional
young woman until Senator Kennedy decided that wealth and power were more
important than saving a drowning girl.

Posted by: Levin at November 17, 2016 09:16 PM (iZGeA)

189 Giving birth to Teddy is crime enough.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 17, 2016 09:16 PM (ZKlDy)

190 ... who interviewed Fr. Amorth, the Vatican's top exorcist, until he died.
Posted by: Iblis at November 17, 2016 09:11 PM (3gBCr)


Must have been one hell of an intense interview...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2016 09:16 PM (sK2fh)

191 177. There were people who warned us about the Irish, but nobody listened.

Where habe you gone, Bill the Butcher? the nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 09:16 PM (pKF9w)

192 Bossy conservative.

That's absolutely BS about Bobby Kennedy, he was the best Kennedy, a good man, a good AG, and father to 12

Posted by: sandy at November 17, 2016 08:54 PM (s587h)




You're thinking about Bobby Kennedy the Assistant Grocer at your local store. We're talking about the little scumbag of the famous Kennedy clan

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 17, 2016 09:17 PM (auHtY)

193 Ted Kennedy offered to help the Russians undermine Reagan.

Fuck his corpse.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 17, 2016 09:17 PM (ZKlDy)

194
But that link in #9: Hoo boy. Someone posted a different link on one of the daytime threads the other day. This looks creepy as all get out.

I do recall that someone from the NYPD was quoted as saying that they found extremely disgusting material on Weiner's computer. If this is real, I hope the lid is blown off.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 17, 2016 09:14 PM (sdi6R)

Rumor is that DOJ threatened NYPD if they tried to press charges against Weiner or Huma. But come January, there's a new sheriff in town.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:17 PM (7qAYi)

195 Then all the vibrant young men died at a young age, except Teddy brought real shame onto the family. Karma? Poor girl.

Posted by: Lace Wigg at November 17, 2016 09:17 PM (p/gBo)

196 Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (SqaAl)
Gordon? Gordon Schlesinger, is that you? it's been ages, BTW, did you hear all of the Kennedys died?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 09:17 PM (SeD0w)

197 @190 HA! At the end even the Demons were scsted of him.

Posted by: Iblis at November 17, 2016 09:18 PM (3gBCr)

198 I remember when "Jon Jon" crashed and silly people were upset.

___

Yep. I remember flipping on the TV and every fucking channel was wall to wall coverage of it. And I was trying my damnest to figure out why anyone cared. Still haven't figured it out.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:18 PM (wD9H7)

199 That description of the actual lobotomy sounds eerily similar to Gosnell's technique of late term abortions. Nasty!

Makes one wonder what the conversation between the parents and the doctors was before the procedure.

"How infantilized would you like us to make her?"

Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2016 09:18 PM (wPiJc)

200 ol' Joe knew what would happen; that was the whole point of doing it, and I thought it was somewhat common knowledge.

But I did not realize hers had been done so early on, less than 80 performed at the time?

At one point, lobotomy was considered the new and best treatment for all sorts of things. I swear I think it was used as treatment for addiction and schizophrenia in some cases. You know, for their own good, and what not. Fucking Nazi-level experimental shit right there.

Maybe I'm confusing it with electro-shock therapy, though, as far as it being used fairly commonly.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:18 PM (afWd1)

201 I remember when "Jon Jon" crashed and silly people were upset.


On a message board some stupid twats were bewailing the loss of a "great leader."

Yeah, I get it, he was a pretty boy (even I could see that), and you'd have been pleased to spread your legs for him. But a great leader?? He was a retard, as he proved at the time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:18 PM (SRKgf)

202
Ben Shapiro vs stupid Social Justice Whiner and liar (but I repeat myself)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ0rXcf8Lws

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:18 PM (uUXAI)

203 Deplorable Jay, I have no idea what you're talking about with the one name thing. Gordon is the handle I've always used here.

Tammy is right. The opiate addiction problem is huge. It tends to be localized, in that the worst problems are concentrated in certain towns. But to give an idea, I graduated in a class of 180 in 1978. I talked to a guy who was about 25. He graduated in a class of 175. Over 20 of his classmates are dead of overdoses--in a white town in Georgia.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:19 PM (SqaAl)

204 115 110 another joe, I've read a movie is in the works about Chappaquiddick. But who knows if it'll ever get completed or be released.

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we're still working out how to make Ted the Hero...

Posted by: writers at November 17, 2016 09:19 PM (EZDs2)

205 Ted Kennedy offered to help the Russians undermine Reagan.

Fuck his corpse

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This, a thousand times.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 17, 2016 09:19 PM (U+nHb)

206 Posted by: Seems Legit at November 17, 2016 09:15 PM (U+nHb)
------------------------------------
And the evidence for Kennedy's bootlegging is.....what?

"Kennedy was a pig, therefore he was a bootlegger" does not seem legit support for a myth.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 17, 2016 09:19 PM (NUqwG)

207 "How infantilized would you like us to make her?"
Posted by: Muldoon at November 17, 2016 09:18 PM (wPiJc)



"Somewhere in between Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:19 PM (SRKgf)

208 trying my damnest to figure out why anyone cared.

Because Camelot and Kennedy curse and shit, but mainly cuz he was a damned good-looking sumbitch.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:20 PM (afWd1)

209 Scared not scsted. Phones and fat fingers don't mix

Posted by: Iblis at November 17, 2016 09:20 PM (3gBCr)

210 On a message board some stupid twats were bewailing the loss of a "great leader."

Yeah, I get it, he was a pretty boy (even I could see that), and you'd have been pleased to spread your legs for him. But a great leader?? He was a retard, as he proved at the time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:18 PM (SRKgf)

___

What exactly did he lead?

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:20 PM (wD9H7)

211 >>> Ted Kennedy offered to help the Russians undermine Reagan.

Fuck his corpse.

Yes, Ted was a traitor. No loyalty to his country whatsoever.

Posted by: fluffy, what was in the Army at the time at November 17, 2016 09:20 PM (jw2Xw)

212 So, I'm watching Roots on the Bounce channel. They let history live and didn't bleep out the original language. I think that be important.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 17, 2016 09:20 PM (6Ll1u)

213 btw, if you believe hillary clinton has ever "curled up with a book" in her life, you a fool. This is a woman who spends her every waken hour scheming for power.

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The Prince?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 17, 2016 09:21 PM (EZDs2)

214 I talked to a guy who was about 25. He graduated in a class of 175. Over 20 of his classmates are dead of overdoses--in a white town in Georgia.
Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:19 PM (SqaAl)

___

Pfffft. Deplorables dying. Yawn.

Posted by: MSM at November 17, 2016 09:21 PM (wD9H7)

215 146 Refuse to go to the Daily Beast, but note that many to this day doubt that the Rosenbergs were guilty as sin.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 08:56 PM (SRKgf)
-----------------------------
Re the Beast, reasonable.
Rosenbergs: Sure, there was evidence and a trial

Link to comment by "Last Call" author Daniel Okrent at link:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jt97vaz
Posted by: RioBravo at November 17, 2016 09:07 PM (NUqwG)

Which is dumbass, because they repeatedly come up in the Venona Papers as part of the Stalinist cell in New York. They forwarded intel from New Mexico to Moscow.

Traitorous wretches.

Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 17, 2016 09:22 PM (VnCI9)

216 Rio, please explain. The kennedy's still get a shit ton of money for booze imported into this country. Yes, Joe worked his connections.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 17, 2016 09:22 PM (U+nHb)

217 That business of telling the mother to *hold her legs together* until the doctor arrives... ::shakes head::

Funny thing is, the same thing might have happened to me - I was born in 1952, at home, and the doctor on the phone told my mother to do just that. Fortunately she didn't - she said, When it's time for the baby to come out, it COMES OUT and there's no stopping it, and apparently I shot out like a torpedo ;-)

But yes - the Kennedys were a horrible family, all around. Boys allowed to tomcat as they liked, girls kept pretty much under house arrest. But Old Joe lived to see two sons assassinated and Teddy disgraced, so maybe there's something to karma after all.

Posted by: Annalucia at November 17, 2016 09:22 PM (a5bF3)

218 Deplorable Jay, I have no idea what you're talking about with the one name thing. Gordon is the handle I've always used here.

Tammy is right. The opiate addiction problem is huge. It tends to be localized, in that the worst problems are concentrated in certain towns. But to give an idea, I graduated in a class of 180 in 1978. I talked to a guy who was about 25. He graduated in a class of 175. Over 20 of his classmates are dead of overdoses--in a white town in Georgia.
Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:19 PM (SqaAl)

Ritalin snorted has the same effects as cocaine.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 17, 2016 09:22 PM (dKiJG)

219 >>> The opiate addiction problem is huge.

Dayton Ohio, here. It's scary. Heroin overdose deaths are pretty much a daily occurrence.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:22 PM (EUMr7)

220

Ted Kennedy? You mean "Admiral Oldsmobile"?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at November 17, 2016 09:22 PM (kP16F)

221 What exactly did he lead?

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:20 PM (wD9H7)



I dunno. I wondered that too. Maybe sailors to a whorehouse?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:22 PM (SRKgf)

222 187 I remember when "Jon Jon" crashed and silly people were upset.

I was like whaa? Who?
Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:15 PM (qUNWi)

Stupid bastard wasn't instrument rated and flew off into hazy conditions in the dark of night. Dumb arrogant fuck.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:23 PM (0mRoj)

223
hillary clinton book list?

1st entry:
Well, maybe the Necronomicon.

Posted by: josephistan



Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:23 PM (uUXAI)

224 "If I just say some of the right things to the Head Nurse, I bet I can get more chocolate pudding than the rest of these assholes without eating all my meat..." :-P
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Pink Floyd disagrees

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 17, 2016 09:23 PM (EZDs2)

225 That's absolutely BS about Bobby Kennedy, he was the best Kennedy, a good man, a good AG, and father to 12
Posted by: sandy at November 17, 2016 08:54 PM (s587h)

I once thought that too. I took a journalism course in college taught by George Reedy, who was (briefly) LBJ's press secretary. Reedy was a old fashioned blue collar Dem. I liked him. He had all kinds of interesting stories - like being called into LBJ's bathroom, where he had to sit on the side of the tub while LBJ was taking a dump. He struck me as an honest guy who had been pretty disillusioned by Washington.

I read the aforementioned Schlesinger biography of RFK and asked Reedy about it. Reedy said, "Bobby Kennedy was the most ruthless SOB I ever met." He advised me to take anything Schlesinger said about the Kennedys with a bushel basket of salt, since he said AS was blindly loyal to them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:23 PM (P8951)

226 >>> What exactly did he lead?

He flew a plane where no one else had flown one.

Posted by: fluffy at November 17, 2016 09:23 PM (jw2Xw)

227 I was on family vacation In Ireland, when news of Jon-Jons aerial escapades made the news.

Wife and her sisters, believers in the Kennedy bullshit, were stunned.

My reaction ?

FINALLY got the hat trick.

Posted by: seamrog at November 17, 2016 09:24 PM (fE8o0)

228
oh and this one, too

The Prince?

Posted by: buzzsaw90

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:24 PM (uUXAI)

229 Rio, please explain. The kennedy's still get a shit ton of money for booze imported into this country. Yes, Joe worked his connections.
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 17, 2016 09:22 PM (U+nHb)
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Explain what?

Posted by: RioBravo at November 17, 2016 09:24 PM (NUqwG)

230 217
That business of telling the mother to *hold her legs together* until the doctor arrives... ::shakes head::

Funny
thing is, the same thing might have happened to me - I was born in
1952, at home, and the doctor on the phone told my mother to do just
that. Fortunately she didn't - she said, When it's time for the baby to
come out, it COMES OUT and there's no stopping it, and apparently I shot
out like a torpedo ;-)

Posted by: Annalucia at November 17, 2016 09:22 PM (a5bF3)


My parent's had some friends whose daughter was born blind because of the 'hold your legs together until the doc gets here.' Caused damage to the optic nerves I believe.

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2016 09:24 PM (Enq6K)

231 I have no illusions about the Kennedys. Any of them. But there is no evidence Joe was a bootlegger. He made a lot of money, but he did it legally, and without government subsidy.

None of his descendants have prospered on their own as far as I know.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:24 PM (SqaAl)

232 The Simpsons - before veering sharp left - did a great job parodying the Kennedys. Mayor Quimby was high-la-ree-ous

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:25 PM (wD9H7)

233
Houston is abusing number 5 Louisville in a most foul and public way

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:25 PM (t/m9f)

234 >>> He advised me to take anything Schlesinger said about the Kennedys with a bushel basket of salt,

Before every television appearance, Schlesinger wiped off his chin with a page out of "Profiles in Courage".

True fact.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:25 PM (EUMr7)

235 It's amazing to think how backwards medicine was not hat long ago.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:26 PM (wD9H7)

236 Maybe I'm confusing it with electro-shock therapy, though, as far as it being used fairly commonly.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:18 PM (afWd1)

That's possible. ECT was a more common treatment for depression/anxiety, but it could have similar effects as a lobotomy, particularly in the hands of poor practitioners. Lobotomy seems vile. I suppose there are legitimate uses for it, but it's hard to see them. God bless that little girl-completely alone. What a horrible way to have to go through life. I hope Joe is having to deal with that decision in the bowels of hell.

Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 17, 2016 09:26 PM (VnCI9)

237 Ufffff, imagine the crazy hero worship if John John was still alive? He was dumber than Joe Biden. Do. Not. Want.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 17, 2016 09:26 PM (U+nHb)

238 I've been pissed at Book Bub lately because they have been pushing crap like "Johnny, We Hardly Knew Ye" and "Sons of Camelot". All the horrible things done by that family and decades later they still are honored by a**holes. Disgusting!
Posted by: JTB at November 17, 2016 08:40 PM (V+03K)


A better choice? "The Dark Side of Camelot". After reading that book, I threw it away. Yup, evil people. A lot of the Kennedy "tragedies" were brought upon themselves by their own bad behavior. That may include the JFK assassination. The mafia helped them to cheat in the 1960 election. Then Robert Kennedy screwed the mafia over.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 17, 2016 09:26 PM (+lVUW)

239 >>>He flew a plane where no one else had flown one.

Misogynist!

Posted by: Amelia Earhart at November 17, 2016 09:26 PM (EUMr7)

240
Good news: Hillary is writing again.
Bad news: It's a list of all the people who are going to have "accidents" in the next 12 months.

Good news: Hillary is reading again.
Bad news: It's something on eugenics by Sanger.
Posted by: qdpsteve


I think sometime in 2018 the Clintoon's will announce that Hillary is ill.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 17, 2016 09:26 PM (Yg871)

241 "Left unsaid is that Rosemary was a perfectly healthy, full functional young woman until her father decided that wealth and power were more important than his little girl."

And that...is the perfect illustration of what our elected monsters are doing to us...

Posted by: Beto Ochoa (@Beto_In_Austin) at November 17, 2016 09:27 PM (hCdMd)

242 >>At one point, lobotomy was considered the new and best treatment for all sorts of things. I swear I think it was used as treatment for addiction and schizophrenia in some cases. You know, for their own good, and what not. Fucking Nazi-level experimental shit right there.

On of my all-time favorite movies is One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest although it was heartbreaking though a lot of it. Lobotomies weren't that common but warehousing of lots of what where considerably mentally deficient people was.

60 Minutes did a piece on a mental institution called the Fernald School. My sister used to volunteer there when we were in high school. Massachusetts was at the forefront of a lot this madness and Fernald was the first of it's kind in the country.

Anyone who was considered sub-normal could be shoved off to the place and family almost never visited. The even had a category for kids who weren't really retarded, just low IQ. They were officially called morons. I shit you not.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2016 09:27 PM (/tuJf)

243 219 >>> The opiate addiction problem is huge.

Dayton Ohio, here. It's scary. Heroin overdose deaths are pretty much a daily occurrence.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:22 PM (EUMr7)

People go from pills to Heroin because it's cheaper and you get cut off by your Dr. They mix it with Elephant tranquilizer and that stops you from breathing because it relaxes your muscles too much.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 17, 2016 09:28 PM (dKiJG)

244 I talked to a guy who was about 25. He graduated in a class of 175. Over 20 of his classmates are dead of overdoses--in a white town in Georgia.
Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:19 PM (SqaAl)


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Really? Please supply a town name, a year and a link. Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 17, 2016 09:28 PM (U77o1)

245 Misogynist!


Posted by: Amelia Earhart


*****


Fist bump!

Posted by: John Denver at November 17, 2016 09:28 PM (wPiJc)

246 The worst legacy of the Kennedys. They gave us LBJ as president.

Posted by: TheQuietMan


Not if LBJ took it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 09:28 PM (a1ini)

247 gordon...everyone knows that's how he got rich.

Everyone. Except you apparently.

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:28 PM (qUNWi)

248 Treatment - if it can even be called that - of mental illness used to be utterly barbaric.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:28 PM (0mRoj)

249 My parent's had some friends whose daughter was born blind because of the 'hold your legs together until the doc gets here.' Caused damage to the optic nerves I believe.
Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2016 09:24 PM (Enq6K)

What kind of barbaric nonsense was this "hold your legs together" crap anyways? They're slinging things into orbit and landing on the moon, yet these numbskulls couldn't figure out hypoxia?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2016 09:28 PM (sK2fh)

250 Fast forward 2 generations and you have to press 1 for English.

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10 more years and it will be

press Dos for Inglais

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 17, 2016 09:29 PM (EZDs2)

251 Gordon. Seriously. A pro Kennedy troll?

Bobby was a good man except for all the times he tag teamed women with his brother, or banged his sister in law

Everybody knows .Jose made money bootlegging

And bought the West Virginia vote for his boy

And fucked everything. And his wife didn't care. And ruined people in their careless destructive paths

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:29 PM (t/m9f)

252 I swear I think it was used as treatment for addiction and schizophrenia

My great uncle took an axe to the walls of their apartment in ~1930, 18 years old. He was a living testament to the f'd up world of psychiatric treatment. He had it all: electro shock, lobotomy, and every psychoactive drug ever patented and some that were experimental. Amazingly, I could almost converse with him when I visited great aunts flat. (He had a deal where he could walk to her home for lunch for lunch from the state hospital.)

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 09:29 PM (SeD0w)

253 Really? Please supply a town name, a year and a link. Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 17, 2016 09:28 PM (U77o1)



I see you share my skepticism about this bird.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:30 PM (SRKgf)

254 Town "Gordon"

"Gordon" knows a great many things that are not true

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:30 PM (t/m9f)

255 I guess old Joe didn't own an Olds? Or was Teddy too young to drive?

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2016 09:30 PM (zLDYs)

256 Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 17, 2016 09:26 PM (VnCI9)


Such a dismal thread, but hello! How are you?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:31 PM (afWd1)

257 Our treatment of our innocents is the standard by which we should be judged.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:37 PM (pKF9w)

Amen.

Posted by: troyriser at November 17, 2016 09:31 PM (mbhHA)

258 Houston is abusing number 5 Louisville in a most foul and public way

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Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:25 PM (t/m9f)



Holy crap!

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:31 PM (qUNWi)

259 Gordon tell us about Trumper violence

War on women and the virtue of Hillary

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:31 PM (t/m9f)

260
Am I the first to compare what Joe and Rose Kennedy did to their daughter to a Muslim "honor killing?"

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:32 PM (uUXAI)

261 I have no illusions about the Kennedys. Any of them. But there is no evidence Joe was a bootlegger. He made a lot of money, but he did it legally, and without government subsidy.

None of his descendants have prospered on their own as far as I know.
Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:24 PM (SqaAl)

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Interestingly, "no evidence" is how the Clintons preface any charge of wrongdoing. Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 17, 2016 09:32 PM (U77o1)

262 Gordon. Seriously. A pro Kennedy troll?


What next? A pro-Jim Jones troll?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:32 PM (SRKgf)

263 Not if LBJ took it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 09:28 PM (a1ini)

Up-read. Beat you to it.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 09:32 PM (SeD0w)

264 I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Joe. Joe, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a... fraid.

Posted by: Rosemary9000 at November 17, 2016 09:32 PM (EZDs2)

265 JKF didn't even with the election, he stole Illinois, W. VA and most likely Texas. So fuck him and his wretched family specifically.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:32 PM (wD9H7)

266 Houston who gave up 46 points to Navy is completely shutting down Louisville.

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2016 09:32 PM (r/0kC)

267 262 Gordon. Seriously. A pro Kennedy troll?


What next? A pro-Jim Jones troll?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 09:32 PM (SRKgf)

Well he did remove a lot of liberals from the gene pool.

/Too soon?

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:33 PM (7qAYi)

268 Our treatment of our innocents is the standard by which we should be judged.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 17, 2016 08:37 PM (pKF9w)

Then our abortion-gorging nation is fucked.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:33 PM (0mRoj)

269 --
260


Am I the first to compare what Joe and Rose Kennedy did to their daughter to a Muslim "honor killing?"

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:32 PM
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You might be the first to have that, uhm... honor.

Posted by: irright at November 17, 2016 09:33 PM (vqzjE)

270 Houston is having its way with Louisville, didn't buy diner, and will not call tomorrow as promised

Houston is a cad

But then Louisville is giving up anal

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:34 PM (t/m9f)

271 Horrible story.

But, Joe Kennedy was a horrible man. So, no surprise.

Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2016 09:34 PM (UD0Gq)

272 Yea, the science used to be send your lil retarded kids off to the State School, so they'd be with their own kind, and that visits from family were too upsetting for all concerned.

Honestly, I am not sure anything nefarious was meant, I think it was just one of those things done in the name of SCIENCE! back in the day, but lord knows hideous things did happen.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:34 PM (afWd1)

273
I think if he had known what would happen, he
would not have authorized the lobotomy. It was a different time, and
standards were different from now. Sweden's government ordered
lobotomies well into the 1970s.



Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:08 PM (SqaAl)

Annnnd the reason no one went to see her until after he died was what exactly?

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2016 09:34 PM (Enq6K)

274 When did I write that I was pro Kennedy?

I have no illusions about any of them.

But Joe was not a bootlegger. That charge originated in the 1970s and there is no evidence to support it.

There is no evidence that he broke laws getting rich. He was a very, very sharp businessman, and had a habit of being in the right places at the right times. That is not unusual among self-made wealthy people.

And Flyboy, buzz off. I didn't interrogate him. He had no reason to lie to me. Look up a book by John Quinones called Dreamland. Read it. Learn something.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:34 PM (SqaAl)

275 pro Kennedy trolls really?

what is next a pro FDR troll?


all those Kennedy's that I'm aware of are some fucked mutha fuckers

Posted by: origional Jake at November 17, 2016 09:34 PM (t8Fxm)

276 Clinton up 3.9%

Posted by: origional Jake at November 17, 2016 09:35 PM (t8Fxm)

277
Fuck.

Lena Dunham on MeAgains show.

*click*

Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:35 PM (JmjOe)

278 JS, did you see latest DP? 4/2/73, holy crap.

Posted by: Wave that Flag at November 17, 2016 09:35 PM (M3DRt)

279

Gordon tells me Louisville will be mounting a comeback. Any minute now

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:35 PM (t/m9f)

280 --in a white town in Georgia.


I don't think Georgia has "white" towns anymore. The closest one is in Maryland, it's called Chevy Chase.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 09:36 PM (SeD0w)

281 Trump Supporters Flood Megyn Kelly's New Book With Bad Amazon Reviews



I'm guessing it's just a bad book no matter what your political positions are

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 17, 2016 09:36 PM (auHtY)

282 I was not expecting such a pretty picture of a Kennedy.

I hope the doctor who did that is Kermet Gosnell's lab rat in Hell (Democrat After-Life Headquarters.)

Posted by: t-bird at November 17, 2016 09:36 PM (hBig8)

283 Man, Murdoch's kids are full on libtards, huh?


Yeah, MeAgain...let us know how that works out for ya.

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2016 09:36 PM (Enq6K)

284 Before every television appearance, Schlesinger wiped off his chin with a page out of "Profiles in Courage".

True fact.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:25 PM (EUMr7)

So he was a big admirer of the prose of Theodore Sorenson - who ghost wrote the damn thing.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:36 PM (P8951)

285 Clinton up 3.9%

Posted by: origional Jake


BAC?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 09:36 PM (a1ini)

286 >>did you see latest DP?


Which one?

I've done 4 already today.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 17, 2016 09:36 PM (UD0Gq)

287 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 09:29 PM (SeD0w)

Sounds like one tough man!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:37 PM (afWd1)

288 Gordon's not a troll, he posts now and then.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:37 PM (afWd1)

289 And Flyboy, buzz off. I didn't interrogate him. He had no reason to lie to me. Look up a book by John Quinones called Dreamland. Read it. Learn something.
Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:34 PM (SqaAl)

=======

You are the one making the claims, Gordo. Kinda up to you to provide backup for them. That's how this Internet! works.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 17, 2016 09:37 PM (U77o1)

290 BAC?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 09:36 PM (a1ini)


hehehe... nice one.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2016 09:37 PM (sK2fh)

291
285 ....takes a pro to go that high

Posted by: Beto Ochoa (@Beto_In_Austin) at November 17, 2016 09:37 PM (hCdMd)

292 Caroline / Chelsea 2040!!

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:38 PM (wD9H7)

293 256 Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 17, 2016 09:26 PM (VnCI9)


Such a dismal thread, but hello! How are you?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:31 PM (afWd1)

{{Miss Tammy}}!!!

Actually, I am hurting like a b#$$ right now. I have a torn ligament in my foot, and I did something to my knee, and I can't really walk. But other than that, I am doing great. You know why?

Because Hilary will never be president.


How are you and yours doing, dear lady?!

Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 17, 2016 09:38 PM (VnCI9)

294 just read it , LATE TO THE PARTY.... WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?????!!!!! DAMN THEM

Posted by: Big Swingin Al at November 17, 2016 09:38 PM (INhDF)

295 277
Fuck.

Lena Dunham on MeAgains show.

*click*
Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:35 PM (JmjOe)

I guess Lena's moved on from talking to rocks and is now talking to Me Again who has rocks in her head.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:38 PM (P8951)

296 And Flyboy, buzz off. I didn't interrogate him. He had no reason to lie to me. Look up a book by John Quinones called Dreamland. Read it. Learn something.

So, wait: Are you making up your fantasy out of another's reality, or just making shit up?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 09:38 PM (SeD0w)

297 47 Then again ... if the surgeon had been a god guy and given a family discount to have them all lobotomized I think this country might have been saved a lot of problems.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 17, 2016 08:43 PM (zc3Db)


You could say I sort of lobotomized Jack.

Posted by: Lee Harvey Oswald at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (cbW3l)

298 Gordon's not a troll, he posts now and then.

--------

So does Hector

Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (JmjOe)

299 Lena Dunham on MeAgains show.

*click*
Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:35 PM (JmjOe)

They both think they're the most beautiful woman in the world.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (7qAYi)

300 I just read that 25 Democrat senate seats are up for re-election in 2018.


You guys may have boners for years.

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (Enq6K)

301 Wasn't Lena supposed to be renting a U-Haul for the move to Vancouver by now?

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (wD9H7)

302

Houston is about to gossip about Louisville in the locker room with his friends

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (t/m9f)

303 Gordon is a old old troll from way back.

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (qUNWi)

304 >>>What next? A pro-Jim Jones troll?

Historians have vindicated us.

Posted by: Your friends at the Kool-Aid Co. at November 17, 2016 09:40 PM (EUMr7)

305 You could say I sort of lobotomized Jack.
Posted by: Lee Harvey Oswald at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (cbW3l)

from the greek:

- "lobo" - lobe
- "tomos" - go all 'splodey and shit

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2016 09:40 PM (sK2fh)

306
deport
deport
deport

Trump
Trump
Trump

!!!!

Posted by: origional Jake at November 17, 2016 09:40 PM (t8Fxm)

307 Joe Kennedy supposedly had connections to Detroit's "Purple Gang" running booze from Canada during Prohibition.

One of many "mob" affiliations with the old man.

Posted by: seamrog at November 17, 2016 09:41 PM (fE8o0)

308 300 I just read that 25 Democrat senate seats are up for re-election in 2018.


You guys may have boners for years.
Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (Enq6K)

_____

It's 23 + 2 Independents (King of Maine and The Bernster). But yeah 60 is not out of the question. Lots of those seats in states that went for Trump & Romney & McCain.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:41 PM (wD9H7)

309
Totally off thread...... but damn oak mite bites itch like hell.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:41 PM (JmjOe)

310 Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 17, 2016 09:38 PM (VnCI9)

Hurting a bit myself, but I don't care, cuz you know why??


Well, actually...... I ain't saying it til Jan 21st, but you KNOW I'm thinking it!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:42 PM (afWd1)

311 194
Rumor is that DOJ threatened NYPD if they tried to press charges against Weiner or Huma.
Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:17 PM (7qAYi)


Threaten them with what, I wonder? How exactly does one "threaten" the NYPD?

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 17, 2016 09:42 PM (sdi6R)

312
Deplorable Jay, I have no idea what you're talking about with the one name thing. Gordon is the handle I've always used here.
Posted by: Gordon




Well, there was a "Gordon" who used to post here, but he was an LGF refugee, so obnoxious he was kicked out not for politics but personality, and a self-admitted troll.

You couldn't be him.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2016 09:42 PM (kdS6q)

313 Half time


Louisville is crying to its bestie on the phone and eating a gallon of ice cream

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:42 PM (t/m9f)

314 300 I just read that 25 Democrat senate seats are up for re-election in 2018.


You guys may have boners for years.
Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (Enq6K)

----

One day i will wake up and the answer to my question will have a different answer. Is RBG still breathing?

Posted by: Rosemary9000 at November 17, 2016 09:42 PM (EZDs2)

315 >>>Wasn't Lena supposed to be renting a U-Haul for the move to Vancouver by now?

That was for snacks.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:42 PM (EUMr7)

316 FYI the Grand Tour AKA The fired guys from Top Gear, was good and funny, what the hell was the BBC thinking in firing Clarkson.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 17, 2016 09:43 PM (dKiJG)

317 Damn, I could have gone tonight without reading this.


I'm going to need to set up a punching bag. When weights and running aren't enough to burn off anger....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 17, 2016 09:43 PM (xWBUU)

318 >>JS, did you see latest DP? 4/2/73, holy crap.

14 has been out for quite some time. It's a good one, they always played well in Boston.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2016 09:43 PM (/tuJf)

319
Louisville is crying to its bestie on the phone and eating a gallon of ice cream


Damn...I guess so. 31 -- 0 at the half. That's a whoopin.

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:43 PM (qUNWi)

320 307 Joe Kennedy supposedly had connections to Detroit's "Purple Gang" running booze from Canada during Prohibition.

One of many "mob" affiliations with the old man.

Posted by: seamrog at November 17, 2016 09:41 PM (fE8o0)

Yeah, but they made a great rhythm section.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:43 PM (7qAYi)

321 Sounds like one tough man!

Yeah: Uncle Glenn. We loved our great aunt, and by extension Glenn. my memory of him was him wearing wingtips and shorts, sitting in a Naugahyde recliner, smoking a pipe. And I mean SMOKING! Red hot bits of tobacco would sprout off of his pipe. There were burn marks all around the chair. How he never started the Great Fire of S. St Louis is beyond me.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 09:44 PM (SeD0w)

322 So wonder whut Trump said to Romney?


That he likes a nice shine on the polish of his shoes?

Posted by: origional Jake at November 17, 2016 09:44 PM (t8Fxm)

323 L Ron Hubbard was a gifted philanthropist. Great Guy. Treats the Sea Orgs well. Clean hands at the top. Totally not a grifter or hooked on the graft.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 09:44 PM (BKTpn)

324 Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:39 PM (qUNWi)

He has never struck me as a troll at all.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:44 PM (afWd1)

325

DOJ to NYPD : Be a real shame if we had the civil rights division crawling all over your shit for years to come. You know, your mayor doesn't have your back. Trials. Firings. Jail time.

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:44 PM (t/m9f)

326 that sorenson ghost wrote "profiles in courage", here's how he put it himself {per wikipedia]:

i "wrote a first draft of most of the chapters" and "helped choose the words of many of its sentences."

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 17, 2016 09:44 PM (WTSFk)

327 Louisvill has a condom hanging out its butt crack.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:44 PM (JmjOe)

328 316 FYI the Grand Tour AKA The fired guys from Top Gear, was good and funny, what the hell was the BBC thinking in firing Clarkson.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 17, 2016 09:43 PM (dKiJG)

___

3 middle aged white guys......can't have that sort of nonsense on the Beeb.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:45 PM (wD9H7)

329 Lena Dunham on MeAgains show.

*click*
Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:35 PM (JmjOe)

They both think they're the most beautiful woman in the world.

Posted by: josephistan


I think Lena must realize that if she and Megyn were at a single's bar, Lena would be stuck being the wingman.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 09:45 PM (a1ini)

330 eleven, you have confused me with someone else. Normally I only post in the gardening thread on Saturday.

And if anyone here thinks that we don't have a big problem with opiates, you're not paying attention. As I said, I didn't interrogate the guy. Why would he lie to me? People are dying in small Minnesota towns. It is a serious as hell big problem.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:45 PM (SqaAl)

331 Many older boomers, even conservative ones, have a huge blind spot about the Kennedys. My BIL, who is also Irish Catholic and from a big family, hated Teddy but persists in thinking JFK and Bobby were great and gets angry if you challenge that. I think for that generation the Kennedy assassinations were such a shock at such a young age - and for Catholics the election of a Catholic president was such a huge thing - that they really can't consider the Kennedys bad guys, no matter what comes out about that wretched family. They can dislike Teddy and the younger wastrels, but JFK and RFK are somehow kept on the pedestal.

I think Peggy Noonan was correct when she wrote that the country as a whole will be unable to judge the Kennedys until the last boomer is dead and nobody remembers the Camelot bullshit mystique.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:45 PM (P8951)

332 329 Lena Dunham on MeAgains show.

*click*
Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:35 PM (JmjOe)

They both think they're the most beautiful woman in the world.

Posted by: josephistan

I think Lena must realize that if she and Megyn were at a single's bar, Lena would be stuck being the wingman.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 09:45 PM (a1ini)

Lena's what the Jersey Shore guidos would call a "grenade."

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:46 PM (0mRoj)

333 >>>
So wonder whut Trump said to Romney?

"Jeeves here will set you up with a pair of my spare balls."

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:46 PM (EUMr7)

334 --
" I didn't interrogate him. He had no reason to lie to me."

------------------------------------


This is just weird. In what story do you imagine yourself a character?

Posted by: irright at November 17, 2016 09:46 PM (vqzjE)

335 Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2016 09:43 PM (/tuJf)

You up for a little mansplainin', or is it an inside thing?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:46 PM (afWd1)

336
Wasn't Lena supposed to be renting a U-Haul for the move to Vancouver by now?




"Now Ms Dunham, on the back, you'll have to hang a red flag, a pair of flashing yellow lights and a sign that says 'WIDE LOAD'."

"On my trailer?"

"No, on your ass."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2016 09:46 PM (kdS6q)

337 JS, One of my fav. dats, but the official releases have more oomph.

Posted by: Wave that Flag at November 17, 2016 09:46 PM (M3DRt)

338

Its like the left that pretends Byrd was okay because he apologized and the NAACP praised him.



He apologized. For being not just an actual, real life klan member who voted against civil rights legislation repeatedly, but a klan leader and member into the 80s.



Oh but he apologized.



As for the NAACP? Proves what they're worth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2016 09:12 PM (39g3+)









To be fair, the NAACP has been a white-controlled organization through most of it's history. It was formed in 1910ish by a bunch of pasty white commies (along with WEB DuBois as the token negro). It didn't even have a black President until the mid-70s.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2016 09:47 PM (LuZz8)

339 311 194
Rumor is that DOJ threatened NYPD if they tried to press charges against Weiner or Huma.
Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:17 PM (7qAYi)

Threaten them with what, I wonder? How exactly does one "threaten" the NYPD?
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 17, 2016 09:42 PM (sdi6R)

By "providing oversight", i.e. taking over the department for civil rights abuses stemming from the Eric Garner case, like they did in other cities.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:47 PM (7qAYi)

340 >>that sorenson ghost wrote "profiles in courage", here's how he put it himself {per wikipedia]:

>i "wrote a first draft of most of the chapters" and "helped choose the words of many of its sentences."



So the sex scenes won't be all girly and shit?


Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2016 09:47 PM (UD0Gq)

341 It seems like she had ADHD, which in girls is a bit more of a complex diagnosis. Very sad.

Good news is that divorce rate is declining. I guess a generation of latchkey kids is a little more cautious about selecting a mate.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 17, 2016 09:47 PM (n3MnG)

342 What do the women get since they can't get lost election Boners?

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 17, 2016 09:47 PM (BKTpn)

343 but damn oak mite bites itch like hell.

Try painting them w/clear nail polish. it'll sting for a second, then relief. At least that's how it works for chiggers.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 09:47 PM (SeD0w)

344 The Grand Tour makes me want to own a 4K tv, it was beautifully shot.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 17, 2016 09:47 PM (dKiJG)

345 At least she wasn't punished with a baby.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro - AA, BFD at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (HgMAr)

346 Joe Kennedy supposedly had connections to Detroit's "Purple Gang" running booze from Canada during Prohibition.

Posted by: seamrog at November 17, 2016 09:41 PM (fE8o0)
-------------------------
The sources for that being the ever reliable Sam Giancana (the nephew) and Chuck Giancana (the brother) of THE Sam Giancana. This being the beginning of a tortured path leading to the assassination of JFK by the Mob in a major CONSPIRACY.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (NUqwG)

347 I think they are talking about Dick's Picks, Tammy.


A series of Live Dead Show Releases.

Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (UD0Gq)

348 >>I think Lena must realize that if she and Megyn were at a single's bar, Lena would be stuck being the wingman.

On the other hand everyone knows Lena is a sure thing and does anal.

Posted by: Aviator at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (/Nite)

349 This is just weird. In what story do you imagine yourself a character?
Posted by: irright at November 17, 2016 09:46 PM (vqzjE)

------

Flash Gordon.... private dick.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (JmjOe)

350
And if anyone here thinks that we don't have a
big problem with opiates, you're not paying attention. As I said, I
didn't interrogate the guy. Why would he lie to me? People are dying in
small Minnesota towns. It is a serious as hell big problem.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:45 PM (SqaAl)

This I believe. OD's are rampant here. If you follow any county FB pages, you can read about them daily. And it's often more than one.

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (Enq6K)

351

Louisville, after talking it over with its girlfriends, has decided to give it up to make Houston happy. Right. I mean that works right?

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (t/m9f)

352 To be fair, the NAACP has been a white-controlled organization through most of it's history.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Rachel Dolezal at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (a1ini)

353 Detroit's "Purple Gang" running booze from Canada during Prohibition.



One of many "mob" affiliations with the old man.



Posted by: seamrog at November 17, 2016 09:41 PM (fE8o0)



He wasn't in any gangs or groups that I'm aware of, but there are stories my grandfather ran booze from here in Canada over the frozen Detroit River during Prohibition.



At one family party someone said he once literally torched a bridge behind him to get away from the RCMP.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (xWBUU)

354 Gordon is an old time troll.

If this Gordon is different one then defending Joe Kennedy is no way to not be a troll by any other name.

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:49 PM (qUNWi)

355 Warden-

If you're up for a little deeper dive into evil, read this. Eugenics has always been a dream of the left. Never forget that when they try to talk about things like overpopulation or abortion or global warming. It always gets back to one thing, getting rid of undesirables, the ones they claim to be undesirables.

And they will never stop.

http://tinyurl.com/nhbc5t8

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2016 09:49 PM (/tuJf)

356 That's absolutely BS about Bobby Kennedy, he was the best Kennedy, a good man, a good AG, and father to 12
Posted by: sandy

****

Sandy vagina, he was corrupt and along with his brother JFK illegally wiretapped many people, including MLK. The left today tries to blame it on J. E. Hoover. Too bad there were witnesses to JFK and RFK making jokes about it in front of people they considered "safe".
Read: It Didn't Start With Watergate

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 17, 2016 09:49 PM (hVdx9)

357 348 >>I think Lena must realize that if she and Megyn were at a single's bar, Lena would be stuck being the wingman.

On the other hand everyone knows Lena is a sure thing and does anal.
Posted by: Aviator at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (/Nite)

And brings cake.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:49 PM (7qAYi)

358 >>>On the other hand everyone knows Lena is a sure thing and does anal.

How long is that strap-on that it gets past her belly?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:50 PM (EUMr7)

359 So wonder whut Trump said to Romney?
.............

Nice toupee.

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2016 09:50 PM (HgMAr)

360 238
A lot of the Kennedy "tragedies" were brought upon themselves by their own bad behavior. That may include the JFK assassination. The mafia helped them to cheat in the 1960 election. Then Robert Kennedy screwed the mafia over.
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 17, 2016 09:26 PM (+lVUW)


Uh huh. Talk about motive. And wasn't Jack banging Sam Giancana's mistress or something?

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 17, 2016 09:50 PM (sdi6R)

361 On the other hand everyone knows Lena is a sure thing and does anal.
Posted by: Aviator at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (/Nite)

_____


I threw up a little in my mouth just now.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:50 PM (wD9H7)

362 A series of Live Dead Show Releases.
Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2016 09:48 PM (UD0Gq)



Pair of Yankee assholes for not sharing that with me, a Dead-Head from way back.

You so good to me...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:51 PM (afWd1)

363 Gordon. The states with the biggest problem per capital are Vermont and New Hampshire. Which isn't to say it isn't elsewhere.

I find your defense of the Kennedys, on well documented things like the shady behavior of JFK and how Old Joe made his money, fascinating. Followed by tangent on white druggies. It's a bit strange.


Now. Back to Louisville being treated like a floozy

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:51 PM (t/m9f)

364 As an Alabama fan, Louisville QB worried me. I hope this game knocks them out of consideration even if they win somehow.

Posted by: Wave that Flag at November 17, 2016 09:51 PM (M3DRt)

365 Old Joe was a monster. Warped his sons, ignored his daughters. Rose was the enabler.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 17, 2016 09:52 PM (CFc5L)

366 Carolina gets a td right before half.

Saints are pretty much toast.

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:52 PM (qUNWi)

367 Rosemary was a pretty girl...obvious shame she didn't elope and leave the Kennedys behind.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 17, 2016 09:52 PM (n3MnG)

368 >>Pair of Yankee assholes for not sharing that with me, a Dead-Head from way back.

I would have told you, I was typing stuff.

Sheesh.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 17, 2016 09:52 PM (/tuJf)

369
So wonder whut Trump said to Romney?




"Get that damned dancing horse out of my office. I just had the carpets cleaned."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2016 09:53 PM (kdS6q)

370 Holy shit.

As a young man, the band I was in would go do a charity dance at a Rosemary Kennedy facility near Chicago.. the kids there were mostly down's syndrome, but they had a helluva good time.
As I recall, they made candles, and would always give us some..

Perhaps it was the guilt that drove the Kennedy's to devote time and money to the mentally ill.. kinda sounds like it..

It is a horrific story.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 17, 2016 09:53 PM (UpGcq)

371 Hey eleven. I'm not defending him. I'm just pointing out that some of the charges lack evidence.

Everyone's throwing the bootlegger charge around like he was convicted in court. He was never even accused of it until after he died. There is NO evidence.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:53 PM (SqaAl)

372 So wonder whut Trump said to Romney?
.............

You're not the type I like to grab.

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2016 09:53 PM (HgMAr)

373 Teddy is the architect of the 1965 immigration bill that essentially said no more European immigration, but anyone from the 3rd World....come on in. Fast forward 2 generations and you have to press 1 for English.
Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 09:14

I'll nominate that for threadwinner, not most funny but most true.

Dems did this when they had a great advantage after the JFK assassination. Then advanced it every chance they could.

Posted by: Farmer at November 17, 2016 09:53 PM (o/90i)

374 I think Peggy Noonan was correct when she wrote that the country as a whole will be unable to judge the Kennedys until the last boomer is dead and nobody remembers the Camelot bullshit mystique.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:45 PM (P8951)

I just had a sinking feeling, thinking that might be true of the millennials and Obama as well. So many of them still see him through this romantic haze - they'll be 90 and telling their grandkids about how great election night '08 was. Even though they'll spend their entire lives paying off the bills he's run up.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:54 PM (P8951)

375 >>>Old Joe was a monster.

The essence of White Trash, all of them.

Just look at the family's behavior since the 'vanguard generation' has met its judgement.

Pure slime, worthy of shunning by an actual Republic.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:54 PM (EUMr7)

376 If only they'd aborted her when she was in her mother's third trimester. Would have spared them all that nasty crap.

/s

Late to the blog today.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 17, 2016 09:54 PM (PY9jH)

377
So the whole bootlegging thing is...folklore?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2016 09:54 PM (uUXAI)

378 Well good god, is he defending Joe Kennedy on all grounds, or is he merely saying that he has read somewhere that the bootlegger thing is not true?

I can't point with any certainty to any of his posts, but I remember that he sounds British and has never seemed remotely trollish.

Buzzion could set us right straight away, if only he hadn't died.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:54 PM (afWd1)

379
I just had a sinking feeling, thinking that might be true of the millennials and Obama as well. So many of them still see him through this romantic haze - they'll be 90 and telling their grandkids about how great election night '08 was. Even though they'll spend their entire lives paying off the bills he's run up.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:54 PM (P8951)

+++


No doubt about it.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 17, 2016 09:55 PM (CFc5L)

380 I didn't introduce the heroin tangent. I just commented on it.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:55 PM (SqaAl)

381 So the whole bootlegging thing is...folklore?

Apparently...according to Gordon v 2.0

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:55 PM (qUNWi)

382 So wonder whut Trump said to Romney?
.............

Tell your pal Paul he's toast.

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (HgMAr)

383 AE had an Intervention show I DVR'd yesterday on some drug that's pretty rampant. I've been hearing the occasional story about out of control drug usage but there hasn't been any great reporting on the problem because the first black presidency is all unicorn skittles and sunshine.



Vice had a show on where they talked about 'juice' (iirc) - pop and some prescription drugs which was running wild in the black community. There's your hope and change for you.




And lastly, Black Friday is stupid. I'm only saying that now, because I've decided I'm going to get an Amazon Kindle, however, Black Friday, which is relatively new to Canada, is catching on and Amazon has sales. And I'd feel stupid ordering now if the price drops in one lousy week for a stupid random day.



Of course, next week, Black Friday may be the greatest day ever....like Boxing Day (the day after Christmas when Canadians get the greatest sales....)

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (xWBUU)

384 You're not the type I like to grab.
Posted by: wth at November 17, 2016 09:53 PM (HgMAr)


Good one!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (afWd1)

385 Left unsaid is that Rosemary was a perfectly healthy, full functional young woman until her father decided that wealth and power were more important than his little girl.


Were a much better option now.

Posted by: Planned Parenthood, fresh young hearts for sale!! at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (eFNea)

386 Louisville is brushing her hair and smoothing her skirt


This time, it will be different. Houston will respect me

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (t/m9f)

387 >>> There is NO evidence.

*Pours Gordon a shot of Cutty Sark*

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (EUMr7)

388 Buzzion didn't just die....


..... he was murdered.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (JmjOe)

389 On a lighter note...Andie MacDowell.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (n3MnG)

390 I apologize to Gordon. I thought the "He had no reason to lie to me." thing was about Joe Kennedy. Mea culpa.

Posted by: irright at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (vqzjE)

391 What is Purple Drank?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:57 PM (afWd1)

392 Thanks, Tammy, but I am not British, except by distant heritage. Born in New Mexico, living in Minnesota.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:57 PM (SqaAl)

393 On a lighter note...Andie MacDowell.


Always.

Posted by: eleven at November 17, 2016 09:58 PM (qUNWi)

394 On an uplifting note, I spent some time at a Boy Scout fundraiser tonight with a whole hell of a lot of people who didn't like Trump, but are giddy over what the future holds in store under his presidency.

And got to spend some time with one of the nicest men on earth, Stratton Leopold. He's a producer of many of the Mission Impossible movies and others, and chose to move home to Savannah to bring back to life his grandfather's ice cream shop in the historic district, while still working in Hollywood.

A nicer, shyer, more modest man you will never meet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 17, 2016 09:58 PM (PY9jH)

395 Of course, next week, Black Friday may be the greatest day ever....like Boxing Day (the day after Christmas when Canadians get the greatest sales....)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (xWBUU)

Is that what that is? I thought it was some weird Canadian holiday where you could legally fist fight someone.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:58 PM (7qAYi)

396 I can't point with any certainty to any of his posts, but I remember that he sounds British and has never seemed remotely trollish.

Buzzion could set us right straight away, if only he hadn't died.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:54 PM (afWd1)

=====

Yeah, that continues to be a tragedy.

I did a little searching, and sources like Wiki, Daily Beast, Salon and Slate have smothered the coverage on this evil asshole. Hence the claim "no evidence". He has been scrubbed.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 17, 2016 09:58 PM (U77o1)

397 Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (JmjOe)

LOL!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:58 PM (afWd1)

398 Perhaps it was the guilt that drove the Kennedy's Eunice Kennedy to devote time and money to the mentally ill.. kinda sounds like it..

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 17, 2016 09:59 PM (SeD0w)

399 391 What is Purple Drank?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:57 PM (afWd1)

Codeine-based cough syrup with your mixer of choice.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:59 PM (0mRoj)

400 So wonder whut Trump said to Romney?

"You really believe that your underwear has magical powers?"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 09:59 PM (a1ini)

401 374 I think Peggy Noonan was correct when she wrote that the country as a whole will be unable to judge the Kennedys until the last boomer is dead and nobody remembers the Camelot bullshit mystique.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:45 PM (P8951)

I just had a sinking feeling, thinking that might be true of the millennials and Obama as well. So many of them still see him through this romantic haze - they'll be 90 and telling their grandkids about how great election night '08 was. Even though they'll spend their entire lives paying off the bills he's run up.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 17, 2016 09:54 PM (P8951)

____

And every book written about Obama, movie made about him, will be glowing.

Look for every city in the country to have something major named after him as well...airports, freeways, stadiums, court houses, college buildings, etc.

Posted by: #neverskankles at November 17, 2016 10:00 PM (wD9H7)

402 Purple Drank was invented in Houston, made popular by rappers, has a wiki entry. It's codeine cough syrup mixed with sofa in a sofa can, flavor by a jollymroger candy. It's addictive and a handful of rappers have died from it. Rumor has it that Justin Bieber has an addiction to Purple Drank

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 10:00 PM (t/m9f)

403 nood
ONT

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 17, 2016 10:00 PM (o/T1x)

404 ONT

Posted by: tu3031 at November 17, 2016 10:00 PM (qJhUV)

405 I think we can still give her CA, right John?

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at November 17, 2016 10:00 PM (HgMAr)

406 391 What is Purple Drank?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:57 PM (afWd1)

No comment.

Posted by: Grimace at November 17, 2016 10:00 PM (7qAYi)

407 Soda not sofa. Wth autocucumber

Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 10:00 PM (t/m9f)

408 399 391 What is Purple Drank?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:57 PM (afWd1)

Codeine-based cough syrup with your mixer of choice.
Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:59 PM (0mRoj)

+++

I had to laugh at how disgusting that sounds.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 17, 2016 10:00 PM (CFc5L)

409 I know people who had Down's Syndrome kids and kept them at home their whole lives. They thrived.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 17, 2016 10:01 PM (+lVUW)

410 Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:57 PM (SqaAl)


Two blue states and they couldn't be more different from each other.

I have family in Belen NM, and in=laws in Buffalo and Bemedji (sp?) MN

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 10:01 PM (afWd1)

411 Teddy is the architect of the 1965 immigration bill that essentially said no more European immigration, but anyone from the 3rd World....come on in. Fast forward 2 generations and you have to press 1 for English.

.......
and 75-80% al all immigrants since 65 vote D

The democrats are literally importing people to vote for them and replace us who do not vote for them.

the 1965 immigration ended a 40 year ban on all immigration

Posted by: origional Jake at November 17, 2016 10:01 PM (t8Fxm)

412 What is Purple Drank?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 09:57 PM (afWd1)

------------

Dat shit putcher mind to hatin folks.

Posted by: Zombie Trayvon Martin at November 17, 2016 10:01 PM (JmjOe)

413 Codeine-based cough syrup with your mixer of choice.
Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 17, 2016 09:59 PM (0mRoj)


Alrighty then.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 10:02 PM (afWd1)

414 Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:45 PM (SqaAl)

I don't disagree we have an opiate addiction problem. I deal with these people everyday at my job. It's just that people here will call you on exaggerations even if they generally agree with you. Unlike the Left , we like to support our positions with accuracy and facts.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 17, 2016 10:02 PM (IDPbH)

415 IIRC, the "Purple Gang" in Detroit was a primarily Jewish gang that ran booze from Windsor, Ontario.

That's not to say other "ethnic groups" weren't involved.

Back then the Jews, Italians, Irish, Germans et al
all had a piece of it, to one degree or another.

OT, just finished a book about Irish gangster Owen Madden. (And all the Saints)

Very good look at what went on during Prohibition, and who was involved, in NY NY.

Posted by: seamrog at November 17, 2016 10:03 PM (fE8o0)

416
Is that what that is? I thought it was some weird Canadian holiday where you could legally fist fight someone.

Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:58 PM (7qAYi)


From my understanding, Boxing Day originated in England and was supposed to be a day for the servants or peasants.

In Canada, it evolved into 50% off sales and when you wait to make any major purchases.

I only went out once, with my god-daughter and her older sisters to get them clothes. Larger city, cold, snowy. Crazy traffic.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 17, 2016 10:03 PM (xWBUU)

417 There has never been any evidence that Joe Kennedy Sr. was a bootlegger. He made money in banking, manufacturing, at one point he was running two movie studios (and banging Gloria Swanson) and always paid himself well. When prohibition ended (which wasn't a surprise, it had been coming for years) he was ready and controlled the import market for Scotch whiskey. He bought Chicago's Merchandise Mart on the cheap and made a pile running it for decades. He was a very, very good businessman. He did not need to put his family at risk by bootlegging and if you learn more about him, you would find that it would be out of character for him to take such a risk.

None of this means he was an angel. He just wasn't a bootlegger.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 10:03 PM (SqaAl)

418 At the age of 15, she was reading at the fourth-grade level.

Compare this to our wonderful modern federalized public education system, in which just one out of four graduates is considered "fully proficient" at reading.

She would probably be considered an average reader today. Maybe even a bit above average! After all, her reading ability was only about five years behind the curve.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at November 17, 2016 10:03 PM (0OG8D)

419 Is that what that is? I thought it was some weird Canadian holiday where you could legally fist fight someone.
Posted by: josephistan at November 17, 2016 09:58 PM (7qAYi)


It is principally a British thing, you box-up the stuff your gifts have replaced as well as other things like old clothes and such, and give it to the deserving poor, the domestic staff, the gardener, etc

Nowadays it is probably best explained away as an excuse to find crackers. Apparently the Zebra ones are the best.

(Crackers are a gift thing you pull apart and a small booby trap squib inside goes "crack!" and there are things like paper hats and joke books and small cheap toys inside.

God knows why this is important.)

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2016 10:03 PM (IhB2Z)

420 So the whole bootlegging thing is...folklore?
------------------------------
The whole bootlegging thing seems to have no evidence in its favor except a handful of statements by New York or Chicago mobsters, their families, and their lawyers.

Joe almost certainly supplied liquor to bootleggers in the Caribbean (where it was legal) and from whence it was then smuggled into the United States.

The evidence or lack thereof for bootlegging is not validated or invalidated in any way based upon evidence or testimony as to whether Gordon or anyone else is a troll.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 17, 2016 10:03 PM (NUqwG)

421 402 Purple Drank was invented in Houston, made popular by rappers, has a wiki entry. It's codeine cough syrup mixed with sofa in a sofa can, flavor by a jollymroger candy. It's addictive and a handful of rappers have died from it. Rumor has it that Justin Bieber has an addiction to Purple Drank
Posted by: ThunderB at November 17, 2016 10:00 PM (t/m9f)

Isn't that what Trayvon was buying that night.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at November 17, 2016 10:04 PM (dKiJG)

422 A) Men can get away with using a bit of cover-up. You don't think President-elect Trump naturally has light streaks under his eyes, do you? The trick is to be artful and blend, blend, blend.

B) Anyone who thinks the Bushes don't belong on the "evil dynasty" list - the kids from the Franklin Scandal would like to have a word with you. So would the parents and relations of those killed by the many illegals who committed "acts of love" due to Dubya's traitorous preference for filling our nation with "little brown ones."

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee. TRUMP2016, BECAUSE WE WON, THAT'S WHY at November 17, 2016 10:04 PM (0z5jg)

423 >>>
I know people who had Down's Syndrome kids and kept them at home their whole lives. They thrived.

Love works that way.

Feeling inconvenienced? Not so much.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 10:05 PM (EUMr7)

424 ONT!!!


ONT!!!



ONT!!!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 17, 2016 10:05 PM (xWBUU)

425 ONT?

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 17, 2016 10:05 PM (jR+TO)

426 ONT!

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 17, 2016 10:06 PM (jR+TO)

427 I am from Louisville, and you can go to Churchill Downs for Thanksgiving. Food is bland, but much better than staying at home waiting for people to wake up. Booze and gambling is fun

Posted by: Wave that Flag at November 17, 2016 10:06 PM (M3DRt)

428 ONT!!!!!!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 17, 2016 10:06 PM (xWBUU)

429 Buzzion didn't just die....
..... he was murdered.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:56 PM (JmjOe)
-----------------------------
What? When was this?

Posted by: RioBravo at November 17, 2016 10:06 PM (NUqwG)

430 I volunteered with Special Olympics for many years, and when I found out the abortion rate of women who think they might be carrying a baby w/DS, I almost threw up.

I am not going to judge anyone; I realize that it's a tough call, but it's almost 90%.

NINETY percent.







Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 10:06 PM (afWd1)

431 Tammy, Belen, Buffalo MN and Bemidji are all very different places!

I once told my dad, who still lives in New Mexico, "Can you believe that I live in Minnesota?"

He agreed it was strange.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 10:07 PM (SqaAl)

432 I volunteered with Special Olympics for many years, and when I found out
the abortion rate of women who think they might be carrying a baby
w/DS, I almost threw up.



I am not going to judge anyone; I realize that it's a tough call, but it's almost 90%.



NINETY percent.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 10:06 PM (afWd1)



And the really sad part is often the diagnosis is wrong.


Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2016 10:08 PM (Enq6K)

433
>>>I volunteered with Special Olympics for many years, and when I found out
the abortion rate of women who think they might be carrying a baby
w/DS, I almost threw up.


My wife's obstetrician didn't even bother with the triple test. She knew us.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 10:09 PM (EUMr7)

434 Yeesh. Almost 90 percent? Wow. I had no idea it was that high.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 10:09 PM (SqaAl)

435 I wonder how many women will abort their kids for being the "wrong" sex?

Jeebus, we live in awful times.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 17, 2016 10:10 PM (PY9jH)

436
One story about Old Joe that's actually pretty funny is how he got the Ambassador job.

He'd had a longtime ambition to be the first Irish-American Ambassador to Great Britain, and he put a lot of pressure on FDR to get the position in the mid-30s when the office came up vacant. FDR actually didn't want to give Joe the position, because he knew that Joe was a prick who would make an ass of himself, and by extension make an ass out of FDR. But FDR had to at least pay lip service to the idea, for political reasons. But if he could piss of Joe enough to drop it........

So he called Joe to the Oval Office for an interview with just Joe, FDR and James Roosevelt, FDR's son. After about 30 minutes or so FDR commanded Joe to stand up, and then told him to drop his pants. Joe was understandably confused, but he complied with his President's command.

FDR immediately started braying wildly, pointing at Joe and calling out "See, Jimmy? I told you it was true! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"

At this point, Joe was pissed. But he was astute enough not to lose his temper, and he asked what FDR was talking about.

FDR replied that they had a mutual friend who had gone boating with Joe many years before along with their extended families, and he'd seen Joe in his bathing suit. The friend claimed that Joe was the most bow-legged man he'd ever seen in his life. And that was a problem, because when the Ambassador to Great Britain formally presents his credentials to the King, he does so in period costume: wig, breeches and tights.

"And if I let you show yourself in public with those bow legs wearing tights, I'll be the laughing stock of the Western World."

Joe is REALLY pissed now. But he keeps it under control, and he turns it back on FDR. "Tell you what. If I can convince the Brits to allow me to go through the ceremony in the modern ambassador's costume of top hat, tails and striped pants, will you let me be your ambassador?" FDR thought briefly about it, and figured that Joe couldn't pull it off, so he agreed.

About a week later, the State Department received a cable from the Foreign Office saying that if he desired, the incoming Ambassador could present himself to the King in.......top hat, tails and striped pants. No one really knows how Joe pulled it off, but it's funny how history is made.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2016 10:10 PM (LuZz8)

437 I wonder how many women will abort their kids for being the "wrong" sex?
-------------------
That can be corrected now!

Posted by: RioBravo at November 17, 2016 10:11 PM (NUqwG)

438 >>>I wonder how many women will abort their kids for being the "wrong" sex?

Jeebus, we live in awful times.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 17, 2016 10:10 PM (PY9jH)

Do they have a test to determine if the fetus will be a democrat?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 10:11 PM (EUMr7)

439
By the way, I first read that story about Joe and FDR in Joe Persico's book "Roosevelt's Secret War".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2016 10:17 PM (LuZz8)

440 Everyone's throwing the bootlegger charge around like he was convicted in court. He was never even accused of it until after he died. There is NO evidence.

Posted by: Gordon at November 17, 2016 09:53 PM (SqaAl)



Al Capone was never convicted of murdre in court, either.

Asshole.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 10:18 PM (SRKgf)

441 murder, even

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2016 10:18 PM (SRKgf)

442 Perhaps it was the guilt that drove the Kennedy's to devote time and money to the mentally ill.. kinda sounds like it..
====

Assumes consciences not in evidence.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 17, 2016 10:18 PM (zu88C)

443 Do they have a test to determine if the fetus will be a democrat?


Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 17, 2016 10:11 PM (EUMr7)


Hmmm. *ponders*

Well, we two conservatives (who strayed at times and went lib) raised an Eagle Scout and Marine who is a conservative.

However, husband's lib sibs have raised predictable liberal, whiney, SJW children.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 17, 2016 10:19 PM (PY9jH)

444 And the really sad part is often the diagnosis is wrong.


Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2016 10:08 PM (Enq6K)

And can't be done til the 5th month. Or at least that's when amnio used to be done, maybe that's changed.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 17, 2016 10:19 PM (afWd1)

445 Joe Sr. is likely burning in hell with Ted.

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at November 17, 2016 10:23 PM (hUf3d)

446
Joe Sr. is likely burning in hell with Ted.

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at November 17, 2016 10:23 PM (hUf3d)


While his poor, sweet daughter plays a harp in Heaven.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 17, 2016 10:26 PM (PY9jH)

447
Wasn't Joe Kennedy the ambassador to U.K. a nazi sympathizer and was recalled by FDR?

Posted by: YIKES! at November 17, 2016 10:28 PM (yfObW)

448
Is that what that is? I thought it was some weird Canadian holiday where you could legally fist fight someone.
Posted by: josephista

No josephista, that is called "hockey".

Posted by: pinot noir at November 17, 2016 10:31 PM (nIGPZ)

449 #438: Actually, I remember several years ago some "scientists" were claiming they'd identified a "conservatism" gene. They said if your child had that gene, he was likely to grow up as the kind of person who'd listen to Rush Limbaugh and support our troops go to church and do other "awful" stuff like that.

I'm convinced it was all a hoax, to be honest. Follow the money. Which side of the political spectrum has women who can be more easily convinced to have an abortion? The liberal side, of course.

How can you get more of these women to open up to the idea of shelling out money (or letting the government shell out money for them) to have abortions? Why, by telling them they're at increased risk of giving birth to a racist sexist homophobic bigot, of course!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at November 17, 2016 10:31 PM (0OG8D)

450 Continued from #449: See, a conservative pro-life woman is far less likely to consider having an abortion. And if you were to tell her she's at risk of giving birth to a bi-curious transnational vegan... guess what? That won't move the meter a single notch in the direction of aborting. Well... maybe one notch. But you're starting so far away from "do it; do it right now" that the person you're trying to con is much more likely to say, "Well, if you're right, I won't agree with much of what my kid does later, but I love him anyway and he deserves a chance at life".

So, those junk-scientists went the other way. To those potential consumers more open to aborting, who are also more open to dehumanizing their political opponents and refusing to give birth to one.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at November 17, 2016 10:43 PM (0OG8D)

451 A college biology teacher told our class this story. Never a fan of the Kennedy's but this story shines a light on what they were.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 17, 2016 10:47 PM (BHMfA)

452 I recently spent 30 minutes in the bookstore browsing a book about her and her life. From what I understand there was enough evidence proving that lobotomies were more destructive than helpful. Old Joe must've been very desperate. There are excerpts of letters she wrote while under the care of the nuns, and yes, they are childlike. . . but she was a human being with feelings.

I did not know she had been sexually abused. That's further sickening.

Posted by: Hillary's Deplorable SteinMart Suit at November 17, 2016 11:03 PM (26e2V)

453 I have no doubt that Joe is roasting in hellfire and continually reminded of all his sins... I am also certain that Rosemary was welcomed home by angels and God wiped away all her tears...

Posted by: Mike at November 17, 2016 11:11 PM (iDxq/)

454 What kind of barbaric nonsense was this "hold your legs together" crap anyways? They're slinging things into orbit and landing on the moon, yet these numbskulls couldn't figure out hypoxia?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 17, 2016 09:28 PM (sK2fh)

Still going on in 1996, in a slightly different form. I arrived at the hospital with my son already in the birth canal at 3 a.m. (I inherited my mother's extremely fast labor gene. There is one, believe it or not, and it's scary.) They shot me up to stop the contractions because he was breech. My obstetrician slept in for 2 more hours while my husband and I waited in the ER. My son was born with a mild case of Cerebral Palsy. Do I believe the doctor and the hospital were negligent? Yes. Did they cover up his condition for the first few hours after birth while we, as first time parents, remained blissfully ignorant. Yes. Are they rated a top 50 hospital in the U.S.? They sure are but lawyers rule. Never doubt it.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at November 17, 2016 11:23 PM (RHjCR)

455 As far as I am concerned, every one of Joe Kennedy's kids that died early was simply justice for what they did to Rosemary.

JFK, yeah, he got us authorization for the green berets (worn anyway unofficially beforehand), he got the Navy standing up the SEALs in addition to the UDT teams that already existed, he got the USAF into the SOF business, and got away from massive nuclear retaliation as the DOD's one answer. He was smart enough to listen to Maxwell Taylor (WWII commander of the 101st, also a total asshole even before he made four stars) on that.

RFK? Fuck that guy. Probably also had Marilyn Monroe murdered.

Teddy? Wish he died sooner and more painfully.

The sooner that entire pestilential bloodline dies out, the better we are. I was actually happy when JFK Jr. dumped his plane and killed himself.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 18, 2016 12:08 AM (jmnpZ)

456 What year did they lobotomize Teddy?

Posted by: YaHump at November 18, 2016 12:36 AM (WraSA)

457 90% of those who test for it. We never tested with our son. I miscarried one child that we then had tested and he had DS. I mourn for him just like I mourn for the first that I miscarried.

Posted by: mullingthingsover at November 18, 2016 01:30 AM (6jt6G)

458 This kind of shit just shows you the bootlegging crime syndicate of the Kennedies were above the law even then.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 18, 2016 01:48 AM (mpXpK)

459 I really did not want to know that happened. Now I have even more reason to dislike that clan.

Posted by: torabora at November 18, 2016 01:56 AM (CpW0Y)

460 329 Lena Dunham on MeAgains show.



*click*

Posted by: fixerupper at November 17, 2016 09:35 PM (JmjOe)



They both think they're the most beautiful woman in the world.



Posted by: josephistan



I think Lena must realize that if she and Megyn were at a single's bar, Lena would be stuck being the wingman.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 17, 2016 09:45 PM (a1ini)



Lena's what the Jersey Shore guidos would call a "grenade."

In Baseball jargon, Lena would be known as a "slumpbuster"

Posted by: Pimp Daddy Welfare at November 18, 2016 02:52 AM (dbbdI)

461 What is the primary source material for this story?

Posted by: lyford at November 18, 2016 08:44 AM (KlzLZ)

462 Rosemary and Maryjo hopefully wait for them on the other side

The use of adderal and Ritalin will be seen in disgust in the future also. Use of mind altering chemicals to modify unwanted mostly male behavior.

Posted by: PaterNovem at November 18, 2016 09:54 AM (wxQ53)

463 Joe Kennedy was so embarrassed and angry about Rosemary that his MISTRESS was shocked and broke off the relationship. You know how horrible he must have been for an amoral woman to be shocked and back away?

Posted by: daisy at November 18, 2016 10:09 AM (jzb58)

464 The story is bullshit. One of the networks had a long piece on her during the late-1980s--early 90s. Their primary guest was a male classmate of Rosemary from high school. He said she was perfectly normal. He had studied with her in her home and he said the Kennedy brothers were always hostile to him--occasionally cornering him to ask what he was doing with their sister. The big thing was that he had notes and letters she had written to him. She had an advanced vocabulary given that she was a voracious reader. Her last note detailed that she had decided to become a voluptuary--someone that devotes their life to pleasure and beauty. Hardly a word low-IQ people use. She wanted him to have sexual intercourse with her, but with the understanding that she would never be exclusive to him. Shortly thereafter, Rosemary told all of this to Joe and that's when Joe decided she had to be dealt with before she created a scandal that jeopardized her brothers political chances. That friend said that all the records showing that she was retarded were faked. It was a cover for having her lobotomized. He had gone on to become a lawyer and a businessman and said he was perfectly capable of assessing her normal-to-above average intelligence. I believe him. She was lobotomized because she showed a high sex drive and an unwillingness to marry.

Posted by: Darrell at November 18, 2016 02:53 PM (MugkC)

465 The idea of a two-year old essentially waiting 20 years for mommy to come to get her is horrible to contemplate. The Kennedys were especially evil.

Posted by: Svejk at November 18, 2016 03:27 PM (sx/Vb)

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