If Hillary Wins, There'll Be Nothing Left "To Fix" by the #NeverTrump Wing in 2020

I don't think they want to "fix" anything, though. I think they want to retain their careers in saying stupid things about politics they saw someone else say on Twitter, or their careers fleecing older Americans out of donor money to fund increasingly-liberal magazines and think tanks, or to preserve their own or their buddies' jobs in an increasingly niche rump party.

That said, to the extent they have any interest in something besides their own careers and acceptance among their liberal coteries, there'll be nothing to "put back together" in 2020 or 2024.

Prudence Paine:

In 2008, I refused to hold my nose and vote for John McCain. I didn't see the utter destruction to America that wrecking ball Barack Obama could do. Now I know that if Hillary wins today, it will be the end of America as we know it. There will be no chance to ever recover what we have lost. The shameful transformation of America will be locked in.
* All of Obama’s unconstitutional executive orders will remain.
* Obamacare will slowly be shifted into a socialist one-payer system, destroying America's leadership in world-class health care.
* More regulations will be piled on top business, making the economy further groan under the weight. More spending will beget more taxation and borrowing. Been looking for a better job? A full-time job? Hoping to get better pay? [insert sound of Hillary's cackle.]
* Hillary will likely appoint three or more US Supreme Court judges, shifting it into a left-wing Constitution-hating body that will look to international courts for its judgments.
* The Second Amendment will be restricted. The Fourth Amendment will continue to be neglected.
* The welfare state will be expanded. Illegal immigration will not be restrained, but rewarded. Terrorists will be imported under the guise of compassion.
* Our military will continue to disintegrate and our enemies will grow strong and push us around. We will cower before them. We will give in and humiliate ourselves. We will pay more ransoms and let our friends get taken over.
* And the Clinton years of scandal after scandal and the selling of the White House that occurred from 1992 to 2000 will look like child's play during the next eight years. It will be utterly exhausting keeping up with their corruption and criminality.
America will be trashed. It will be over.
There will be no looking to finally elect a Republican that will "fix it" in 2020 or 2024. There will be nothing left to fix. The demolition of all we hold dear will be permanent.
So today, I'm voting for Donald Trump, because he is the only one that has any chance of beating Hillary Clinton. A vote for anyone else--or a lack of voting--is a full acceptance of the destruction of America as we know it.

That's my position too, and that's why I imagine this will be my last rodeo. There is simply no point "fighting" on the side of quislings and traitors who will sell you out if someone applies a little Social Justice Pressure to them on Muh Twitterz.

The GOP, particularly its venal, inbred, incompetent Mandarin class, is in bed with the liberal welfare state, sometimes quite literally. They are heartless, and not in the way their pretend-opponents liberals usually mean it; I mean they have no guts, no grit, no fight, no defiance.

No heart, no animal spirit. A man who makes for a poor man isn't more likely to make for a good adviser.

There is no point "fighting" for an army that yearns to lose.

The future belongs to those who are willing to fight for it.

Our debased political class is not so willing. They have grown comfortable and fat on the six-foot leash their liberal masters permit them.

They only wish, as Mathew Continetti said, to accommodate themselves to a large and ever-growing welfare state and just have some "conservative-tinged" management of it.

Not enough. Not worth fighting for. Not a dream anyone but the most bloodless bureaucratic insect would consider a dream worth fighting for.

They set themselves upon a palace coup -- knifing the rest of the party in the back -- to take back their party.

Well, they can have their party back. I will not belong to any party which demands my vote and support -- but not my input as to my own list of political aspirations.

They will have their party back, much diminished.

And they will fail even in their pathetic dream of "conservative-tinged" bureaucratic management of the ever-growing state.

Posted by: Ace at 02:56 PM

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1 Amen!

Posted by: deplorable donna at November 08, 2016 02:56 PM (O2RFr)

2 The words were "let it burn".

Now it burns.

Posted by: S at November 08, 2016 02:57 PM (HCXGq)

3 I need to go home and sleep until tomorrow.

Posted by: Eggo at November 08, 2016 02:57 PM (D4xED)

4 Wish I hadn't given up drinking.

Posted by: Eggo at November 08, 2016 02:57 PM (D4xED)

5 The structure of the country will be corruption. IRS, DOJ, judicial, etc.

Posted by: BacktoGA at November 08, 2016 02:58 PM (QUl0c)

6 By the way, I held my nose and voted for McCain in 2008, because Palin. Last time. Fuck 'em. I've got as much in common with them as I do with the Kardashians and they give as much of a shit what I think.

Posted by: S at November 08, 2016 02:59 PM (HCXGq)

7 who the hell cares what they think. take a Xanax or 3 & relax

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 02:59 PM (y3aQB)

8 4 Wish I hadn't given up drinking.

Can't think of a better day to fall off the wagon

Posted by: jsg at November 08, 2016 02:59 PM (gs8be)

9 Golf. Clap.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 02:59 PM (WlGX+)

10 Reuters changed their poll from Nov. 7th to Nov. 1st HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:00 PM (y3aQB)

11 Yup, the fundamental transformation of America after 8 year Obama + 4 years Hillary will be permanent.

They should look at what's happened to Sweden, or London and Paris to get an idea of how welcome even GOPe conservatism will be in 4 years.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2016 03:00 PM (NOIQH)

12 Well said.

I need this work day to be over so I can get home and see the end one way or the other.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 03:00 PM (WuRdh)

13 Willowed.

Nip Sip-

Would you mind sharing where you found out the total number of votes

in your precinct? I'm going to vote in an hour and want to gauge

turnout. For the record, my precinct went 62% for Tillis in 14, so if

we're cranking the votes out it's good news

Posted by: LawLurker at November 08, 2016 02:49 PM (202DZ)

Very
easy, ask the precinct judge. They have the totals of early voting and
you just add the number for today. You find that on the little paper
ballot they give you to sign, upper right corner. Last ballot is the
running total.

Or just ask them. It's not a secret. My
precinct is the highest voting precinct in Meck county. We'll vote over
85% probably. Old rich white guys, with a mix of limousine liberals,
Eastover School.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:00 PM (NbJXF)

14 You better capitalize that word "State", Ace, or You Will Be Reported.

Posted by: West at November 08, 2016 03:00 PM (1Rgee)

15 Pretty much.

If Hillary wins - hell, if *any* Democrat wins before we get control of the border - I'm through with politics, because there will be no winnable fights left.

I'll try to ignore the government. Maybe that'll work for a while. But there will be no repairing it. There will be nothing to be until the whole thing collapses. Until the Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return. Then maybe we can rebuild.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 08, 2016 03:01 PM (xN1DB)

16 I have no problem with Hillary! becoming president, as long as she does it the same way Mandela did...after spending 27 years in prison.

Posted by: Country Singer at November 08, 2016 03:01 PM (uiwCw)

17 Cost to coast...Vote Trump.

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at November 08, 2016 03:01 PM (H43MS)

18 "That's my position too, and that's why I imagine this will be my last rodeo."

Surely you won't give up the blog? (At least until the Commiecrats forcibly shut you down). This is a media refuge for so many of us.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 08, 2016 03:01 PM (ujg0T)

19 I'm supposed to listen to someone who couldn't see in 2008 the potential of what Obama would do to America? Yeah he may see the light now and good for him but I'll pass.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 03:01 PM (kaCWe)

20 * Hillary will likely appoint three or more US Supreme Court judges, shifting it into a left-wing Constitution-hating body that will look to international courts for its judgments.

THIS moves to #1. Because all bad shit flows from this. Because there will be no relief in the courts. Period. Full stop.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2016 03:02 PM (2w7OO)

21 Jennifer Griffin, Fox: "Clinton campaign internal Michigan polls in free fall following Comey letter" 10/28. Reason for HRC MI visit.

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:02 PM (y3aQB)

22 This will not be my last rodeo, but the rodeo may have to move to a new location or underground

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:02 PM (dELE3)

23 "That's my position too, and that's why I imagine this will be my last rodeo. There is simply no point "fighting" on the side of quislings and traitors who will sell you out if someone applies a little Social Justice Pressure to them on Muh Twitterz."

And yet assholes and trolls are beating up on you, my friend. I stand with AOSHQ.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 03:02 PM (mbhDw)

24 Word, let it burn, I hope for a win and possibly a nice Bushy purge. Tar and feather and out of town on a rail!!!

Posted by: The Deplorable Garbone at November 08, 2016 03:03 PM (5xuEg)

25 I'm 70 this year. It's been a long and losing fight. All that is left is to buy ammo and wait for the end.

Posted by: Trainer at November 08, 2016 03:03 PM (BQZPm)

26 21 Jennifer Griffin, Fox: "Clinton campaign internal Michigan polls in free fall following Comey letter" 10/28. Reason for HRC MI visit.
Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:02 PM (y3aQB)

Even Flint's own Tubby Riefenstahl thinks Hillary is in deep doo-doo both there and nationally.

We'll see.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 03:04 PM (mbhDw)

27 And yet assholes and trolls are beating up on you, my friend. I stand with AOSHQ.

Je suis AoSHQ!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2016 03:04 PM (2w7OO)

28 What you said Ace.

But, then another part of my brain and check book says. NO GODDAMMIT

So I remain a torn and twisted Conservative.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 08, 2016 03:04 PM (voOPb)

29 >>So today, I'm voting for Donald Trump, because he is the only one that has any chance of beating Hillary Clinton. A vote for anyone else--or a lack of voting--is a full acceptance of the destruction of America as we know it

I'm getting a little tired of being lectured to by people who thought it was ok to not vote for McCain or Romney because they weren't pure enough and so we got 8 years of destruction but NOW they want to talk about how we have to vote?

Well welcome to the fucking party. We could have avoided a shitload of pain if people had had this epiphany 8 long years ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:04 PM (/tuJf)

30 Hell there's alot to still fight for. Win or lose, this is just the beginning.

Posted by: jacke at November 08, 2016 03:04 PM (3Xjfq)

31 I think getting off Twitter is the first step.
Disclaimer: never been on Twitter.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (xhKov)

32 I am Spartacus.

My body is broken, but I may just be able to die on my feet yet.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or TEXIT) at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (5G252)

33 Ace, take a trip to the way back machine when you could not stomach Trump during the primaries. You and about every conservative commentator. Those discussions were persuasive and I took them seriously. I have acted on the former conservative zeitgeist. Trump is still the person you said he was back then. You can't have it both ways; persuade me about the unacceptability of the man and then tell me he is our only hope. I remain convinced by your earlier arguments, but now I am a traitor to the Republic if I don't get right with Trump-Jesus? C'mon...

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (rbPc9)

34 Hell there's alot to still fight for. Win or lose, this is just the beginning.
Posted by: jacke at November 08, 2016 03:04 PM (3Xjfq)

Yeah? Pray tell what is that will be left to fight for?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (dELE3)

35 https://twitter.com/valeriargo/status/796066433553879040/photo/1

SOMEONE SCREENSHOT THE REUTERS RESULTS

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (y3aQB)

36 I'm amazed that the health issue for Hitlery has not resonated much more; I suppose because her media (and they ARE hers, for good or ill) have worked hard to suppress it.

The woman's very ill. She's not at all in the kind of physical shape to run an small office, much less the presidency of the USA.

Watching the woman totter around reminds me very strongly of the last 8 months of my mother's life, before she died of the stuff that made her so shaky and weak-looking.

She's a goner, and soon. Or she's just gonna hunker down in the White Hut and speak to the masses through her minions in government and Big Media.

Right now it's just her lust for power and position, and freedom from prosecution for her myriad crimes, that keeps her kinda vertical.

And people can ignore THAT and vote for her?

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (nd1zx)

37 What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Hillary, she's a dead man! Ryan, dead! Niedermeyer...

Posted by: Trump Bluto at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (SIY7D)

38 I suppose I'm just watching out for my career?
WAIT NO I'M A FUCKING STAY AT HOME DAD.

Honestly. If we're going to just roll over and die, we might as well just elect HRC and get it the fuck over with.
Honestly, neither of these shitbags is good for small government and conservatism. Prepare to fight regardless.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (dzmBR)

39 Well welcome to the fucking party. We could have avoided a shitload of pain if people had had this epiphany 8 long years ago.

Even four years ago. He could have been one and done.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (2w7OO)

40 Events change Jackstraw.

Posted by: jacke at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (3Xjfq)

41 THE SOLUTION IS ROMAN. PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER IN A BARREL WITH SPIKES AND THROW IT OVER A WATERFALL:

++++

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/248630/

Heh. That's Sarah Hoyt speaking about corrupt Clinton/Obama officials, but I don't imagine she'd object much to throwing a few GOPe types in the barrel along with them.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 08, 2016 03:06 PM (R+30W)

42 I'm getting a little tired of being lectured to by people who thought it was ok to not vote for McCain or Romney because they weren't pure enough and so we got 8 years of destruction but NOW they want to talk about how we have to vote?

Well welcome to the fucking party. We could have avoided a shitload of pain if people had had this epiphany 8 long years ago.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:04 PM (/tuJf)

THIS. Tired of these never posers, past or present.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 08, 2016 03:06 PM (ujg0T)

43 Dammit. Got willowed.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 08, 2016 03:06 PM (6RbuA)

44 It's a great weekday to get hammered.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 08, 2016 03:06 PM (KUaJL)

45 You and about every conservative commentator. Those discussions were persuasive and I took them seriously. I have acted on the former conservative zeitgeist. Trump is still the person you said he was back then. You can't have it both ways; persuade me about the unacceptability of the man and then tell me he is our only hope. I remain convinced by your earlier arguments, but now I am a traitor to the Republic if I don't get right with Trump-Jesus? C'mon...
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (rbPc9)

No it's about acting like an Adult and not a 2 year old and adapting to the changing situation.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:06 PM (dELE3)

46 Ace, been following your twitter feed on this subject since Trump secured the nomination, and I can't tell you how much I think your on the right side of this.

I've said it before, Trump victory would be good, but I'm more rooting to see the aftermath of said victory on the #nevertrump. It's kind of been heartbreaking to see the pitiful nature of a lot of these bloggers that I've really been reading since the beginning. You went at Hawkins yesterday... He's a guy I've tuned out for about 10 years now though. He was always an idiot. Does he even have his own website any more, or is it still the link aggregation ATM machine with half the links to cracked.com or the chive?

I'm trying to come up with a list of who's tears will be most delicious.

Second thought... for pure entertainment value, during these big elections I usually watch MSNBC... by I think Fox could be more entertaining with a Trump win tonight... any thoughts.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at November 08, 2016 03:06 PM (Uy8SG)

47 I fight. I fight till I can fight no more.

Fuck these people. The games have just begun.

FUCK YOU. WAR.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (89T5c)

48 One of the few advantages of being old. I can remember Gov. Reagan. His signature is on my University diploma.

I can remember President Reagan. I can remember living in a country I was proud of.

Posted by: Anchovy at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (c86/W)

49 the nevertrumpers trying to fix the party after a Hillary win would be akin to performing a wheel alignment on a car falling off a cliff.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (U0lQa)

50
Well welcome to the fucking party. We could have avoided a shitload of pain if people had had this epiphany 8 long years ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:04 PM (/tuJf)

So true.
I had no problem voting for Mitt
McCain was a different story but I voted for him nonetheless.

And I was going to vote D today for my congresscritter. And I couldn't I just couldnt

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (voOPb)

51 Fuck you nevergiveup. Open your eyes.

Posted by: jacke at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (3Xjfq)

52 >>>Surely you won't give up the blog? (At least until the Commiecrats forcibly shut you down). This is a media refuge for so many of us.

i don't know what I'll do. I'll keep the blog going for a time as I have no other source of income but I'll be pretty mechanical about it. (Moreso than usual, I mean.)

Maybe I'll just post less about politics and leave it to the "Experts."

At some point I need an exit from the whole thing, and hopefully I'll find that.

I want out.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (8rNrN)

53 No offense, but this post sounds way too premature. We're assuming a Hillary win, then speculating about what happens in 2012 ??

Good grief.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (DLIpz)

54 America will be trashed. It will be over.

Yes, the Empire cannot endure 4 more years like the last 20.

National collapse may not be a bad thing. America 2.0 ... a coalition of smaller, regional states, autonomously governed but with mutual defense... might be better.

- The People's Republic of the Eastern Seaboard.
- The Appalachian Federation
- The Republic of Greater Texas
- The Southern Constellation
- Heartland
- Cascadia
- Pacifica

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (O7MnT)

55 I hope.... but after the vote fraud, I fear that Hillary will win.

Or even worse, that Trump wins.... and then goes off the deep end, and the country is crushed under with all the blame flowing to the Right.

Yeah, I'm almost as pessimistic as Allahpundit today.

Hey Ace, if Trump pulls it off, can you post the Humpbot from Allah? It's about the one thing I miss from HotAir.

Posted by: Vanceone at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (IQzhs)

56 33 Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (rbPc9)

Um, the reason we have primaries in the first place is to fight for the candidate that is best suited, by whatever metric you want to use, to win the general and steer the nation in the right direction.

I thought Trump was, to be charitable, not the one. Now that he is the nominee AND HILLARY CLINTON IS HIS OPPOSITION, you get your mind right and back Trump.

Is this that difficult to comprehend?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (mbhDw)

57

did Michael Barone retire?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (rW4yT)

58 Check out @lordaedonis on Twitter. And @blkmenforbernie. And @CATS_PAWS and @alaskantexanQCT. Well worth your time, I promise.
Posted by: Bernette at November 08, 2016 03:00 PM

From Willowed thread. @talknerdytome72 is awesome too. Vote! Fight! @zachhaller

But you guys will like the alaskantexan. Name Quinton Jackson if I had a typo.

Posted by: Bernette at November 08, 2016 03:08 PM (JSys4)

59 Yes all that is true. It was in 1964 too, but somehow we came back.

The problem? We have no Reagan in the wings.

Our farm team sucks

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:08 PM (NbJXF)

60 2020, I meant. Not 2012.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 08, 2016 03:08 PM (DLIpz)

61 She's a goner, and soon. Or she's just gonna hunker down in the White Hut and speak to the masses through her minions in government and Big Media.

Right now it's just her lust for power and position, and freedom from prosecution for her myriad crimes, that keeps her kinda vertical.

And people can ignore THAT and vote for her?

Obviously they can.

Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 03:08 PM (2w7OO)

62 Who ever you are...I've been told to fuck my self my better people than you. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:08 PM (dELE3)

63 Either Trump successfully converts the GOP into a working class party, thrusting the GOP-E into the democrat camp where they belong, or the party is ripped apart by losing their conservative base permanently.

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (G8TO0)

64 I didn't see the utter destruction to America that wrecking ball Barack Obama could do.

Not to pat myself on the back but I did. He was an out and out commie with a raging hatred for this country. His whole time in office has been his revenge on this country. Anyone who voted for him should get the bubonic plague

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (493sH)

65 Or she's just gonna hunker down in the White Hut and speak to the masses through her minions in government and Big Media.

You'd be surprised how well that works.

Posted by: Zombie Woodrow Wilson at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (NrQPT)

66 What have conservatives conserved since the election of the compassionate conservative W. Bush?

Seriously? Please list.

Posted by: Jezebel Moloch Clinton at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (GJ05Q)

67 The problem? We have no Reagan in the wings.

Our farm team sucks
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:08 PM (NbJXF)

There might be.

Ah, heck, who am I kidding? The GOP prides itself on stomping out anything resembling conservatism.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (8hICw)

68 30 Hell there's alot to still fight for. Win or lose, this is just the beginning.
Posted by: jacke
-----------

You can fight, but you're going to lose, and you're going to make enemies in the process.

We saw the beginning of this in the gay marriage debate. The left went full totalitarian. Politics is now part of every area of your life, and it had better be the *right* politics, friend, or something unfortunate might happen to this nice little bakery you got there.

If Hillary wins, the Democrats never have to fear losing the White House ever again. There will be no consequences to their thuggery. The Free Shit Army will show up to keep them in office. Congress? We can win Congress, right? Yeah. They'll either roll over or get rolled over. The states? Federal law crushes all.

No, this is it. There are no winnable fights left after this one.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (xN1DB)

69 Exit polls don't take into account the trunks and vans in Philly, Detroit, and other deep blue cesspolls full of "uncounted ballots"

Posted by: brak at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (guIHw)

70 >>>No offense, but this post sounds way too premature. We're assuming a Hillary win, then speculating about what happens in 2012 ??

Good grief.
Posted by: grammie winger

...

not exactly. Although I DO assume (provisionally) Hillary will win, either way, I am done with this scam and Cruise With Your Favorite Thinkers hustle and Corporate Favor Bank masquerading as a political movement.

No one wants to be the last man to die for a lie.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (8rNrN)

71 On the bright side regardless of the outcome, rest assured the Republican party can get back to doing what is really important and that is purifying the party platform.

Posted by: Fritz at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (fHq4U)

72 >>Events change Jackstraw.

Sometimes. But not now. Obama, if anything, is worse than Hillary because he at least inspired the left. Hillary is about as inspiring as used toilet paper.

People here are still trashing McCain and Romney while saying if you don't vote for Trump, who for most is nothing more than a Hillary blocking device.

I don't need anyone to tell me why I need to vote for the candidate I like or at least the one who will stop the one I hate when there are only two choices. I learned that lesson in like 2nd grade.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (/tuJf)

73 At some point I need an exit from the whole thing, and hopefully I'll find that.

I want out.

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For us readers, this blog is just a hobby. A hobby that we may spend too much time on, but a hobby nonetheless. For you, it is a job. Eventually, you get tired of your job and just need a new challenge. A repurposed blog may be all you need. Or something completely different.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (gmeXX)

74 "You can't have it both ways; persuade me about the unacceptability of the man and then tell me he is our only hope."

Oh stop being so obtuse. The ultimate goal is to stop Hillary. Like Ace, I thought another candidate would be better able to do that (Rubio for me) and di not support Trump. But that's ancient history Gunny. The next president will be Trump or Hillary. Ace has chosen the only rational choice for a conservative.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (OD2ni)

75 And villifying David Burge? Should the fact that he has taken the position that he has not give you some pause that reasonable people can disagree on l'affaire Trump? Again I say, C'mon...

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 03:10 PM (rbPc9)

76 So I guess there will be no news for several hours. I had better do some work in the meantime.

see you this evening, hordlings.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 08, 2016 03:10 PM (cJrMO)

77 8
4 Wish I hadn't given up drinking.

Can't think of a better day to fall off the wagon

Posted by: jsg at November 08, 2016 02:59 PM (gs8be)

NO, won't solve anything.
I find it funny, Insty has a link to liberal law professors talking about succession if Trump wins.

If we talked that way the FBI would show up at our door.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:10 PM (NbJXF)

78 https://tinyurl.com/or6upet

Wikileaks We are Under Cyber Attack

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:10 PM (y3aQB)

79 No one wants to be the last man to die for a lie.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (8rNrN)

???

See i fight for what I believe in...not for what some party believes in. Sometime those 2 coincide, sometimes they don't.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:11 PM (dELE3)

80 I want out.
Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (8rNrN)

One must be careful where they tether themselves too. It's why I'm here at home rather than trying to drum up an academic career, I'd likely be suicidal inside of 1-2 years of hawking shit I actually don't believe just to get tenure.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at November 08, 2016 03:11 PM (dzmBR)

81 You know, if Hillary croaks while in the White House, anyone else wonder how long it is until we actually hear about it? A week, a month, 6 months?

The media sure as hell wouldn't press the issue of not seeing her publicly, and the support staff can continue on for quite some time with Kaine or Bill actually running the show and we wouldn't have any idea.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 08, 2016 03:11 PM (KUaJL)

82 One of the running jokes around here was the SMOD. Trump was our SMOD. He may not win the presidency, but he's set in motion the sweet death of the GOP party as we know it.

It will take some time before the GOP recovers. The GOPe have to listen to the deplorables and will probably have to cull some disaffected middle-road Democrats too.

In the meantime, I'll sit down and mock those who watch in horror what Hillary does to this country after voting her into office.

Because the sin of her presidency is not on my conscience.

Posted by: MacGruber at November 08, 2016 03:11 PM (sgrzZ)

83 Spot-on. Let all the big-government kabuki bureaucrats take ownership of their precious partys- and own them along with the sad results.

Posted by: Cooldawg at November 08, 2016 03:11 PM (ilQGp)

84 And I was going to vote D today for my congresscritter. And I couldn't I just couldnt
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (voOPb)

Are you in CA too? Loretta Sanchez is much less commiecrat than Commie-lah Harris.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 08, 2016 03:11 PM (ujg0T)

85 Posted by: Vanceone at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (IQzhs)
Again, someone filled out my kid's absentee ballot in VA. he's here in CA.
He also told me just last week that voter fraud is a myth. Grad school brainwashed him.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 08, 2016 03:11 PM (Q5Ymk)

86 Another reason ace should hope for a Trump win:

He will give us hands down the most entertaining 4 years of our lives. They'll be so much fodder for blog posting ace will be able to retire after merely one trump term.

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:11 PM (G8TO0)

87 Laissez les temps ardents rouler!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 08, 2016 03:11 PM (xhKov)

88 One of the silly bleatings of the Never Trumpers is that we have no idea what Trump's going to do in office, notwithstanding that he's just spent a year and a half criss-crossing the country telling his supporters over and over and over again what he's going to do in office.

I would just point out that the one trait everyone who knows Trump, like him or not, attests to, is loyalty to those who are loyal to him.

I think he now has an emotional bond with his supporters, and for example when Trump stands in front of his supporters and calls out the dishonest media who have tried to destroy him in every way they possibly can, and yet his supporters come and cheer him and support him regardless, I just don't see Trump doing anything (unlike a typical politician) he thinks of as a betrayal to his supporters.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at November 08, 2016 03:11 PM (hA1V+)

89 Some of these faggots think that we're gonna start buying their shit right away, starting tomorrow. Even the ones openly supporting the herself.

Posted by: jihadi at November 08, 2016 03:12 PM (I64i9)

90 Parties

Posted by: Cooldawg at November 08, 2016 03:12 PM (ilQGp)

91 "You'd be surprised how well that works.

Posted by: Zombie Woodrow Wilson at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (NrQPT)"Much easier back when 'interactive media' was doodling on your copy of the Milwaukee Daily Blatt; people expect to see moving pictures of their elected officials these hyar days.
Of course, what with Silicon Valley so deep in the Democrat tank Hillary's entire presidency could be a Pixar production.
Except they would insist on making her character lovable and sympathetic, so we'll know for sure it's not her.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 08, 2016 03:12 PM (nd1zx)

92 Whoever wrote that quote is simply stupid.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 08, 2016 03:12 PM (bn2MX)

93 I couldn't bring myself to vote for Rob Portman today, but I couldn't vote for Strickland, who is an incompetent idiot. I was going to skip that part, but there was also a green party candidate on the ballot, and two independents. I made a guess and voted for one of the independents. If I thought Strickland had a chance, I would have voted for Portman, but I felt safe in sending a message in this case.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 08, 2016 03:12 PM (FQKBL)

94 btw how many nevertrumpers have been to these diabolic Podesta orgies. I bet its more than one

#principled

Posted by: jihadi at November 08, 2016 03:12 PM (I64i9)

95 So, the bottom fell out of the Clinton bucket after the latest Comey letter?

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (JBggj)

96 Burge broke my heart.

But he's dead to me now like all the rest.

What an eye-opener this all has been.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (WlGX+)

97 >>>Wikileaks We are Under Cyber Attack

Good news of the day!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (xhKov)

98 They're so principled they will stab you in the back

Posted by: jihadi at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (I64i9)

99 Is this that difficult to comprehend?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (mbhDw)

Yes frankly.

My choices are either jumping in a volcano or being ejected into space. Sure space will probably be less painful but I'll be dead either way.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (dzmBR)

100 The future belongs to those who are willing to fight for it.
____________________

I didn't come into this election year with much respect for Donald Trump, but he has fought hard for this victory, and he has been humbled and changed by the process, and I have far more respect for him today than I ever would have thought possible a year ago.

And yes, I believe he will win. Against all the odds. Because he has been fighting for Americans, and they have seen him fighting, and they will show up at the polls for him today.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (4rh2D)

101 If I ask the doctors for a xanex they rate me a nut case and take my guns. So I seethe instead.

Posted by: torabora at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (TilR0)

102 You can't have it both ways; persuade me about the unacceptability of the man and then tell me he is our only hope. I remain convinced by your earlier arguments, but now I am a traitor to the Republic if I don't get right with Trump-Jesus? C'mon...
Posted by: ObjectionSustained

Sorry, who is the only hope against Hillary? Fucking breakfast sandwich guy? Pot smoker/crazy tongue guy? I don't know when Ace has ever said Trump is "our only hope" for everything, not just beating Hillary. He's been pretty straight about his POV, and I've never seen him claim that Trump is America's open-ended, only great hope for all that is and ever will be. You're bastardizing his position.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (gH1Qb)

103 The People's Republic of the Eastern Seaboard.
- The Appalachian Federation
- The Republic of Greater Texas
- The Southern Constellation
- Heartland
- Cascadia
- Pacifica

+++++

almost like a battlestar galactica naming scheme

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (U0lQa)

104 I was kinda hoping for a unicorns and rainbows type of post today.

Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at November 08, 2016 03:14 PM (e9mZG)

105 25% of the Party will live on as dinosaurs. Good riddance. We will see what full-fledged Socialism looks like now.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 08, 2016 03:14 PM (zllbf)

106 You're bastardizing his position.

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There's a lot of that going around. Of course, that's politics.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:14 PM (gmeXX)

107 I want out.
Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (8rNrN)

One must be careful where they tether themselves too.

Tether thineself to Texas. Change of scenery. Semblance of freedom.

Frontline of secession.

Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 03:14 PM (2w7OO)

108 Wikileaks We are Under Cyber Attack

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:10 PM (y3aQB)

I guess the NSA has decided the last release is too damning and must be stopped?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:15 PM (NbJXF)

109 Posted by: torabora at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (TilR0)
You need a doctor that hunts.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 08, 2016 03:15 PM (Q5Ymk)

110 Wow, Bernette, you weren't kidding - particularly this one:

https://twitter.com/alaskantexanQCT/status/795973378456875008

Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2016 03:15 PM (NOIQH)

111 i don't know what I'll do. I'll keep the blog going for a time as I have no other source of income but I'll be pretty mechanical about it. (Moreso than usual, I mean.)

Maybe I'll just post less about politics and leave it to the "Experts."

At some point I need an exit from the whole thing, and hopefully I'll find that.

I want out.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (8rNrN)

I can't imagine what I'd do without the HQ.

But a break from political posts when / if Scankles wins would be a good thing, Ace. Write about movies or books or GAINNZZ or anything except the death of the republic.

Go on vacation, why don't you? I would think that after this year, you need one badly.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 08, 2016 03:15 PM (X6fMO)

112 At the beginning this was not a binary choice for me. I joined the LIB brigade so I wasn't going to vote at all. I was subsequently convinced that I was being selfish and others I respect wanted to continue the fight . I voted for Trump for them. I'm still preparing for the burn though.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 03:15 PM (kaCWe)

113 >>I want out.

If you go I will have to start working at work. I find this unacceptable.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:15 PM (/tuJf)

114 You can't have it both ways; persuade me about the unacceptability of the man and then tell me he is our only hope. I remain convinced by your earlier arguments, but now I am a traitor to the Republic if I don't get right with Trump-Jesus? C'mon...

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (rbPc9)

You're being disengenuous.If I can get past my dislike of the GOP nominee to do the right thing, then anyone can.

To your point, no one is required to persuade you of anything. Do the right insasmuch as it is given to you to know the right.

Posted by: troyriser at November 08, 2016 03:15 PM (OGbEB)

115 The GOPe:

Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (wtvvX)

116 If Shrillary wins *ptoo ptoo ptoo* then I'm all in for a national divorce and the nevertrumpers are on the other side and have to go sleep in the dems' wet spot, which they like, anyway.

It seems like one of the big things on TV is calling for reconciliation after this election. All I will say is "FU!" to the left and their nevertrumper useful idiots. I don't care which way the election goes, those people are all putrid scum and I really don't want to have anything to do with them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (zc3Db)

117
People here are still trashing McCain and Romney
Posted by: JackStraw

The McCain and Romney who just voted for either Hillary or Evan McMullin?

We shouldn't say mean things about those guys?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (kdS6q)

118 75 No one wants to be the last man to die for a lie.
Ace

More than a Hillary win, what hurts is knowing almost everyone I admired on the right, from Limbaugh to Jonah Goldberg to Glen Beck, don't believe a word of it, we're just a group to be exploited for a paycheck. Even if Trump manages to squeak out a win, there's no coming back from that for me.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (ePcUK)

119 93 One of the silly bleatings of the Never Trumpers is that we have no idea what Trump's going to do in office, notwithstanding that he's just spent a year and a half criss-crossing the country telling his supporters over and over and over again what he's going to do in office.

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No, we know what he's going to do: whatever advances the Greater Glory of Trump.

I'm not buying your "Trump is loyal" bullshit, because Trump's not an honest or honorable man. He binds himself to agreements, then tries his damndest to get out of them.

But that's fine, given the alternatives. I know where I stand with Trump. I know that he's not going to fuck with my life out of a sense of do-gooderism. That's Hillary. I want her to leave me the fuck alone. Trump will, because there's no money or glory in pestering me. But Hillary... she's rewarded by her conscience every time she fucks me.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (xN1DB)

120 I want out.
Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (8rNrN)

One must be careful where they tether themselves too.

Tether thineself to Texas. Change of scenery. Semblance of freedom.

------------

I do not share Ace's despair. I wonder if part of that is because I live in Texas. Being a conservative here is not something to be ashamed of. You don't have to hide it.

Which is why I have suggested to him that he move here for a couple years. Just to see that all is not lost.

Do other Texans feel the same? I'd be curious.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (gmeXX)

121 If you go I will have to start working at work. I find this unacceptable.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:15 PM (/tuJf)

Amen to that...LOL

The IRS might get suspicious as to why i am earning so much more money?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (dELE3)

122 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at November 08, 2016 03:17 PM (p4Une)

123 >>>Posted by: jihadi at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (I64i9)

We have never pretended to be on Trump's side. We are not stabbing you in the back. We are stabbing you in the front.

>>>Sorry, who is the only hope against Hillary?

There is no hope against Hillary. There hasn't been since May. The fight now is to avoid tainting the party for the next decade. People like Ace saying they'll give up politics gives me some hope on that front, though I suspect this will be like the dozen-odd times he's quit twitter.

Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2016 03:17 PM (9qDRl)

124 Prepare to fight regardless.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at November 08, 2016 03:05 PM (dzmBR)

Trump gives us more time to prepare.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 08, 2016 03:17 PM (UJkDW)

125 Hear, hear, Ace!

Posted by: Alana at November 08, 2016 03:17 PM (ASfgM)

126 123
75 No one wants to be the last man to die for a lie.

Ace

More than a Hillary win, what hurts is knowing almost everyone I
admired on the right, from Limbaugh to Jonah Goldberg to Glen Beck,
don't believe a word of it, we're just a group to be exploited for a
paycheck. Even if Trump manages to squeak out a win, there's no coming
back from that for me.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (ePcUK)
I agree with the sentiment, but I feel Rush and some others don't deserve to be thrown in with the rest.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 03:17 PM (WuRdh)

127 If Hillary wins it will be the end of the Republic. Period.

Posted by: SCUBA DUDE at November 08, 2016 03:17 PM (WsJuq)

128 >>>Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (wtvvX)

You're getting exactly what you claim to want. Why are you so upset?

Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2016 03:17 PM (9qDRl)

129 The three major tracking polls -- IBD Reuters and LA -- all ended with Trump up by 2% or more, with gains in the last week.

Trump can win the EC even if down by 2% to 3%

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (SIY7D)

130 One thing i do know, if Hillary wins the republican party is done. There will be the GOPe and the rest of us. The GOPe will quickly fade as they lose HOR and senate seats in 2018.

Sure the donks will have control but it will be 6s and 7s as to having the GOPe in control.

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (cOHS7)

131 Trump's not an honest or honorable man. He binds himself to agreements, then tries his damndest to get out of them.

???

Like what?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (dELE3)

132 Ace, you don't join the enemy. You find another army to fight with.
If you surrender entirely, then you deserve the hell you get.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (+aCe4)

133 Soothsayer: "did Michael Barone retire?"

What, and miss every opportunity to tell us how flawed Trump is and how the man cannot wake up without making a mistake? Pshaw.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (1CroS)

134 No it's about acting like an Adult and not a 2 year old and adapting to the changing situation.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:06 PM (dELE3)

Here is what an adult does: Assess the situation for themselves, come to his own conclusions, and act upon those conclusions. You don't like the conclusion? Not much I can do for you, sport.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (rbPc9)

135 Are things kinda quiet on the MSM exit polling front?

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (JBggj)

136 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 08, 2016 03:13 PM (xhKov)

Can this chucklehead get a perma ban?? he is a one note charlie

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (y3aQB)

137 The GOPe have to listen to the deplorables and will probably have to cull some disaffected middle-road Democrats too.

I've read the pieces by David "Pants crease" Brooks and George "Dungarees Will Be the Downfall of the Republic" Will that have been linked in the sidebare and the Morning Dump.

Both of them vaguely acknowledge "the Trump voters do reflect some concerns by the grubby little workers in flyover country and maybe we should think about possibly addressing them."

But I think that to the Brooks-Will wing of the GOP, this means the peasants have to be sold on why exporting manufacturing jobs and importing cheap third world labor is good for them.

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (O7MnT)

138 ace if you look back, your blog was only at the most, 50% political to begin with. Movie reviews, haikus, poetry, deep thoughts, best of lists, etc.

Good times.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 03:19 PM (kaCWe)

139 Assange must have some real bad shit on PIAPS.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2016 03:19 PM (89T5c)

140
@111 - It's not just politics. It's someone claiming to have a brain and understanding reason (and who I believe to have such things) to suddenly throw all of it out the window to justify politics.

I wish Trump were not the nominee. But I voted for him. Easy choice, didn't have to think twice about it or lose any sleep.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at November 08, 2016 03:19 PM (gH1Qb)

141 I would just point out that the one trait everyone who knows Trump, like him or not, attests to, is loyalty to those who are loyal to him. I think he now has an emotional bond with his supporters

*************************

I really believe this, and I'm not speaking out of ignorance. I've watched many of his rallies, waited 5 hours in line for one rally, and attended a Pence rally.

There's a connection here, and I think conservatives leery of Trump are that way because he's not ideological. His platform was built out with the help of his staunchest allies, which has been Sessions, Giuliani, Bannon, etc. Mostly decent, good patriots. He'll never forget the love of his supporters while being absolutely brutalized by the media and the left, and I believe he'll be loyal to the voters who have been stedfastly loyal to him.

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:19 PM (G8TO0)

142 >>>More than a Hillary win, what hurts is knowing almost everyone I admired on the right, from Limbaugh to Jonah Goldberg to Glen Beck, don't believe a word of it, we're just a group to be exploited for a paycheck. Even if Trump manages to squeak out a win, there's no coming back from that for me.

I just said that on Twitter -- these people are now shifting into "Let's be friends again" mode, working on their (get this) actual outreach to real conservatives, because they're going to want our votes for Ryan/Rubio 2020.

I just said: They think there's a Coming-Back from this.

There is no Coming-Back from this.

This is the end of the affair. This is Us Being Done.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:19 PM (8rNrN)

143 I have not yet begun to fight. - Somebody important.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 03:19 PM (2PHKP)

144 Here is what an adult does: Assess the situation for themselves, come to his own conclusions, and act upon those conclusions. You don't like the conclusion? Not much I can do for you, sport.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (rbPc9)

But that is exactly what Ace did, but yet you criticize him for that? Sport

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:19 PM (dELE3)

145 140
Are things kinda quiet on the MSM exit polling front?

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (JBggj)

Yeah I find this odd. I expected to hear nothing but 'HILLARYZ GUNNA WINZZZ BY SEVENTY!!11!!!1!!!11' by now.
Not sure what to make of the lack of exit poll data.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (WuRdh)

146 The GOPe:

Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

-
Wear blue jeans.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (zMjbQ)

147 Trump gives us more time to prepare.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 08, 2016 03:17 PM (UJkDW

I'm not so sure the left won't try to strike first in such a situation.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (dzmBR)

148 105 - "I didn't come into this election year with much respect for Donald Trump, but he has fought hard for this victory, and he has been humbled and changed by the process, and I have far more respect for him today than I ever would have thought possible a year ago."

Was just saying the same thing last night.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (RzUqr)

149 Honestly, If trump does win I will not shed a tear for those turds at WikiLeaks if a tank runs them down and grinds them into mush. I say we give them a decent burial out of respect for taking down Clinton...

Posted by: The Deplorable Garbone at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (5xuEg)

150 See i fight for what I believe in...not for what some party believes in. Sometime those 2 coincide, sometimes they don't.

That's how I feel ... right there. NGU ... can I get a fist-bump ?

Ace - just because you quit fvcking with politics, doesn't mean politics will ever quit fvcking with you. And besides - you don't strike me as the go along to get along type.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (RKJF2)

151 4 PA counties - machine calibration errors

Bullfuckingshit

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (/D5Lf)

152 I couldn't bring myself to vote for Rob Portman today, but I couldn't vote for Strickland, who is an incompetent idiot. I was going to skip that part, but there was also a green party candidate on the ballot, and two independents. I made a guess and voted for one of the independents. If I thought Strickland had a chance, I would have voted for Portman, but I felt safe in sending a message in this case.
_____________________

I voted for the Green Party candidate instead of voting for John McCain.

The Greenie is a loon, but McCain is a backstabbing, lying, dumb-ass POS, and I won't ever give him my vote again.

McCain will win easily, but not with my vote.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (4rh2D)

153 But Hillary... she's rewarded by her conscience every time she fucks me.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (xN1DB)

Shrillary can't be motivated by something she doesn't have. She is just, plain power-hungry and nasty.

And Trump is an honorable and honest guy. Not sure where you get the impression that he isn't. He's a very hard worker and a fair person.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (zc3Db)

154 51 Ace, been following your twitter feed on this subject since Trump secured the nomination, and I can't tell you how much I think your on the right side of this.

I've said it before, Trump victory would be good, but I'm more rooting to see the aftermath of said victory on the #nevertrump. It's kind of been heartbreaking to see the pitiful nature of a lot of these bloggers that I've really been reading since the beginning. You went at Hawkins yesterday... He's a guy I've tuned out for about 10 years now though. He was always an idiot. Does he even have his own website any more, or is it still the link aggregation ATM machine with half the links to cracked.com or the chive?

I'm trying to come up with a list of who's tears will be most delicious.

Second thought... for pure entertainment value, during these big elections I usually watch MSNBC... by I think Fox could be more entertaining with a Trump win tonight... any thoughts.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at November 08, 2016 03:06 PM (Uy8SG)

Jeb! Romney. Lowry. Kissinger. Negroponte. Kagan. Kristol. Boot. Tears from war criminals and their ardent supporters are the most delicious.

Posted by: Bernette at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (JSys4)

155 I just said: They think there's a Coming-Back from this.

There is no Coming-Back from this.

This is the end of the affair. This is Us Being Done.

=============

Damn straight.

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (JBggj)

156
At some point I need an exit from the whole thing, and hopefully I'll find that.

I want out.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (8rNrN)

A young Ace takes advice at a party..... One Word, son........

http://tinyurl.com/nf57qb3

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (NbJXF)

157 >>The McCain and Romney who just voted for either Hillary or Evan McMullin?

>>We shouldn't say mean things about those guys?

Who gives a shit? I'm not voting for a BFF, I'm voting for either 1) someone I want or 2) someone who will block someone I absolutely hate from getting the job. I rarely get the first option so I'm forced to take the second.

We've been having posts on this very simple principle since the end of the primaries and I don't really need someone who couldn't figure this out when McCain was running to explain it to me now.

Say all the mean things you want about McCain or Romney. They are irrelevant. The point is vote for a positive if you can but at least vote against evil when necessary. Not exactly rocket surgery.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (/tuJf)

158 The #NeverTrump Republicans yearn for the days when they were the Washington Generals of US politics; perennial losers, drawing fat paychecks in light-work jobs with little to no responsibility.

They are spoiling to again become - until they are eventually replaced, perhaps suddenly, perhaps even violently - the permanent minority party, and they will almost certainly get their wish, sooner than later, methinks.

Posted by: DocJ at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (NYS7S)

159 Trump was the speed bump on the road to hell.

Hillary is fresh asphalt and all the barrels removed.

The ride will be a fast one. The stop abrupt.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 08, 2016 03:21 PM (voOPb)

160 I do not share Ace's despair. I wonder if part of that is because I live in Texas. Being a conservative here is not something to be ashamed of. You don't have to hide it.

Which is why I have suggested to him that he move here for a couple years. Just to see that all is not lost.

Do other Texans feel the same? I'd be curious.
Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (gmeXX)

I'm in Texas. If Hillary wins the country is dead.

The scum have all the major institutions plus New York and Kallyfornia. Texas will be top on the list of targets to destroy.

I'm proud to be a conservative here, but eventually I will have to take up arms because of it. It is what it is.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 08, 2016 03:21 PM (UJkDW)

161 The chattering classes, including Ace, have overlooked a critical factor in this election. A Clinton victory still costs the GOP more than a Trump defeat. This isn't over yet - if Clinton wins and Republicans retain control of Congress, their only course of action if they want to maintain any semblance of political viability will be to stonewall all political and judicial appointment until the investigations are complete and legal issues are resolved. If they go along to get along like they have the last two years, I will never again cast a vote for a Republican in a federal election. One man's vote means nothing to these people, but if a few million more follow suit, they're going the way of the Whigs.

Posted by: Sirius the Canine Pundit at November 08, 2016 03:21 PM (LBO1U)

162 Fuck the GOPe.

No coming back. THEIR party is dead.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2016 03:21 PM (89T5c)

163 At the beginning this was not a binary choice for me. I joined the LIB brigade so I wasn't going to vote at all. I was subsequently convinced that I was being selfish and others I respect wanted to continue the fight . I voted for Trump for them. I'm still preparing for the burn though.

I was LIB/MIB before I was for Trump. I am doing everything I possibly can before the burn to avoid it. That way, when it comes, I can hold my head high and say,

"I tried everything in my power to avoid this. Now? Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead!"

Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 03:21 PM (2w7OO)

164 And yet assholes and trolls are beating up on you, my friend. I stand with AOSHQ.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 03:02 PM
~~~~~

I am Moronette!

Posted by: IrishEi at November 08, 2016 03:21 PM (eM2Uz)

165 Damn kids are out of school and obviously streaming movies, my internet is slow as shit

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:21 PM (NbJXF)

166 , I held my nose and voted for McCain in 2008

I voted for McCain to die. He has yet to fulfill this basic constituent service.

Posted by: DaveA at November 08, 2016 03:21 PM (8J/Te)

167 No, we know what he's going to do: whatever advances the Greater Glory of Trump. I'm not buying your "Trump is loyal" bullshit, because Trump's not an honest or honorable man.

************************

Concern status:

[ ] Not Noted
[ ] Noted
[ X ] Trump/Pence because FUCK YOU

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:22 PM (G8TO0)

168 >No it's about acting like an Adult and not a 2 year old and adapting to the changing situation.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:06 PM (dELE3)

The situation sucks, either way.

This is the first year I really really don't want to vote for president at all.

Posted by: Lea at November 08, 2016 03:22 PM (lIU4e)

169 Somebody on Facebook has indicated they will be attending the 'Let's All Go Point Fingers At Trump Tower And Laugh' outing some barnicle-head in Chicago has organized for Wednesday, Nov 9. Because he's gonna lose so bad, you see.

Honestly, don't these people have jobs? I get they have the socialization of spoiled 9-year-olds, but isn't anybody expecting them to be productive tomorrow?

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 08, 2016 03:22 PM (nd1zx)

170 also re-assuring was some liberal jack-off on one of the Fox stations a little while ago saying that Ryan will probably push aside the fringe elements of the party in order to get things done.
business as usual, in other words. hope not, not holding my breath.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at November 08, 2016 03:22 PM (2JQBv)

171 >>>ce if you look back, your blog was only at the most, 50% political to begin with. Movie reviews, haikus, poetry, deep thoughts, best of lists, etc.

Good times.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

...

right, but since Obama, things have seemed less funny to me. I'm not in the mood for joking.

I've been *barely hanging on* since the great disappointment of 2012.

Could the NeverTrumpers at least let those of us barely clinging to hope to have hope? NOPE! They had to crush us.

It will not be forgotten.

They are now Enemy. I am their Enemy now, and I intend to make that clear to them, and do whatever I need to do to sabotage them.

I left the liberals when I realized it was a all a con to keep them in power, that they wanted to squash dissent to do favors for their 'stakeholders."

Conservatism, Inc. has now revealed themselves to be precisely the same.

And they are my most recent hated enemy, and therefore the one I hate most and will oppose the most.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:22 PM (8rNrN)

172 Jezebel,

They have conserved the decline of the US in most way, from education to health to demographics. They have conserved the tendency for the plutocrats and general oligarchy to take more from everyone else. They have conserved the "purification" of the GOP and so-called conservative movement so that the uncouth are driven out. Nobody who gives a crap about the working class or the future beyond a couple of earnings reports is welcome.

Oh, and above all else, they have conserved the trend of moving into a dark and occult world, where half the movers and shakers and just general players are into things like pedophilia. And Trump is bad for dirty talk.

The US needs an exorcism.

Posted by: Lance at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (GXcg+)

173 At least we've shoved all the liberals to the outside of the country. We're like paratroopers. We're supposed to be surrounded. But we own 8/10ths of this country's landmass.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (2PHKP)

174 You're getting exactly what you claim to want. Why are you so upset?

Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2016 03:17 PM (9qDRl)

When Trump was nominated, I knew one of two things would happen:
1) Hillary would be defeated, or2) The GOPe would be pretty much destroyed.
I'm not gonna be happy that Hillary might win, but the fact that the utterly useless Republican establishment gets destroyed is a nice consolation prize.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (wtvvX)

175 Update from my neck of woods, Collier County, Florida. Republican turnout is north of 85% and 6% higher than Dem turnout. From what I can tell, Lee County, another big R county, is up as well.

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (3cPCK)

176 Cernovich Nate Silver tweeted "Polls may have been wrong this year" lol

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (y3aQB)

177 PA counties - machine calibration errors

**************

Notice how every machine error ALWAYS favors the democrats? ALWAYS?

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (G8TO0)

178 4 PA counties - machine calibration errors

City/County election boards have one job - one. fucking. job. - and they can't manage to do it competently even half the time, it seems.

Posted by: DocJ at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (NYS7S)

179 The chattering classes, including Ace, have overlooked a critical factor in this election. A Clinton victory still costs the GOP more than a Trump defeat. This isn't over yet - if Clinton wins and Republicans retain control of Congress, their only course of action if they want to maintain any semblance of political viability will be to stonewall all political and judicial appointment

????

And other than the present Supreme Court Nominee...and that is only Temporary- when have the Republicans EVER stonewalled anything or chose a Hill to die on?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:24 PM (dELE3)

180 Please, someone....anyone >>>> (XzRw1)

Get rid of it!

Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a deplorable at November 08, 2016 03:24 PM (Enq6K)

181 Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:22 PM (8rNrN

Honestly, I don't think they matter that much.
As a percentage of the electorate they are infinitely small.
As far as "thought leaders" go if they had any real sway they would have stopped Trump in the primaries.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at November 08, 2016 03:24 PM (dzmBR)

182 150 140
Are things kinda quiet on the MSM exit polling front?

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (JBggj)

Yeah I find this odd. I expected to hear nothing but 'HILLARYZ GUNNA WINZZZ BY SEVENTY!!11!!!1!!!11' by now.
Not sure what to make of the lack of exit poll data.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (WuRdh)

MSN.com headline - not making this up - Hillary wins Guam!

Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2016 03:24 PM (7HtZB)

183 Report:

Long line in MO. Took me half an hour to get to the front of the line, and then another 15 minutes or so to do what I thought was a decently secure address change for a recent move.

Hang in there, Morons.

Posted by: Piercello at November 08, 2016 03:24 PM (TOLnE)

184 I just took a look at Althouse's blog something I have not done in many moons.

She didn't reveal how she voted but noted she saw a black man in a MAGA T shirt by the polls.

In Madison.

Brave man.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 08, 2016 03:24 PM (u0lmX)

185 Honestly, don't these people have jobs? I get they have the socialization of spoiled 9-year-olds, but isn't anybody expecting them to be productive tomorrow?

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 08, 2016 03:22 PM (nd1zx)

Jobs? In Barry's glorious workers utopia you don't need jobs anymore. Just mom and dad to support you forever

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 03:24 PM (493sH)

186 I went back to the Reuters/Ipsos daily tracking poll. It's been re-calibrated to stop at November 3.

That's before the Podesta satanic "Spirit Cooking" email and the final Comey Letter, right?

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 03:24 PM (JBggj)

187 174-

Their job is to live off others and be obedient leftwingers and do what is told.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2016 03:25 PM (89T5c)

188 >>>Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:22 PM (8rNrN)

Don't give in to the Dark Side, ace!! It will consume you!!
Go squat, you'll feel better!!! They can never take squats from us!!! EVER!!!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 08, 2016 03:25 PM (xhKov)

189 147 This is Us Being Done.
Ace

Yep. A lot of masks came off this year, I know what I saw, and I believe my lying eyes.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at November 08, 2016 03:25 PM (ePcUK)

190 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (

If you believe honest and honorable is possible in the real estate business. Not necessarily blaming Trump. It's the nature of the beast.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 03:25 PM (kaCWe)

191 I think Generation Snowflake is begging to be smacked down good and hard; and I hope History is preparing to do just that.

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 03:25 PM (O7MnT)

192 187 150 140
Are things kinda quiet on the MSM exit polling front?

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (JBggj)

Good news for us then.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 08, 2016 03:25 PM (u0lmX)

193 ace, you are 29, I have shoes older than that, seriously.

Trust me this shit will pass.

I know it's trite. But when the going gets tough, the tough get going.

To the bar I guess?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:25 PM (NbJXF)

194 Notice how every machine error ALWAYS favors the democrats? ALWAYS?
______________________

That's what happens when you buy your voting machines from companies owned by George F*cking Soros.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 08, 2016 03:25 PM (4rh2D)

195 183 4 PA counties - machine calibration errors

City/County election boards have one job - one. fucking. job. - and they can't manage to do it competently even half the time, it seems.
Posted by: DocJ at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (NYS7S)

Get rid of the damn machines. Hand count all the ballots. State parties send 2 (two) observer to each precinct to observe the voting and the counting.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:25 PM (8hICw)

196 Maybe if we get a Trump win we can have some Baghdad Bob moments with shit actually getting done despite the media. We can all just hope for a small streak of competence on our side for maybe a few months, something not seen since the 80s'.

Posted by: The Deplorable Garbone at November 08, 2016 03:25 PM (5xuEg)

197
People here are still trashing McCain and Romney

++++

because they sucked

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (U0lQa)

198 Should the fact that he has taken the position that he has not give you some pause that reasonable people can disagree on l'affaire Trump? Again I say, C'mon...

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 03:10 PM (rbPc9)
========================

What does that even mean??

Look, we speak English here and you will have to follow suit if you want to start a flame war! Egads.

Posted by: Well, OK then at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (sCBEO)

199 Conservatism, Inc. has now revealed themselves to be precisely the same.

And they are my most recent hated enemy, and therefore the one I hate most and will oppose the most.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:22 PM (8rNrN)

Don't sound like the words of a man who's lost all hope.
Someone posted the semi-famous Josey Wales quote the other day about getting angry when you're about to lose. Don't go out with your head down.

Bare your teeth and tell em you're a screamer, just like Davy Crockett.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (2PHKP)

200 >>>Ace - just because you quit fvcking with politics, doesn't mean politics will ever quit fvcking with you. And besides - you don't strike me as the go along to get along type.

the liberals are now patrolling the battlefield and executing the wounded. The #NeverTrump wing not only has acquiesed to this, but they are pointing out the wounded-but-still-fighting (us) so the liberals will shoot them and spare them.

It is now Survival Mode Time. It's time to do what #NeverTrump has done and ingratiate oneself to the Permanent Liberal Lock on the White House the #NeverTrumpers have now created.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (8rNrN)

201 >>There is no Coming-Back from this.

This is the end of the affair. This is Us Being Done.

---BOOM!---

Direct hit.
We've seen their masks slip.
We've been condescended to for months, even those of us who didn't have Trump in even top three picks for candidate, but could clearly see that the big picture was always "BEAT HILLARY."

Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (NOIQH)

202 PA counties - machine calibration errors

City/County election boards have one job - one. fucking. job. - and they can't manage to do it competently even half the time, it seems.

Posted by: DocJ at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (NYS7S)

Oh they're doing their job. When you consider their job is to throw the election for the Beast by hook or by crook

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (493sH)

203 Trump will win.
That said....... way back in 08 I said Barky Oblabo would be the death of the Democrats. Not the u.s. just the Democrat party. Look at what is happening out there this year. People who never pay attention are this yr. People who never vote? They're voting! People who reflexively back Dems? They are looking at the corruption in the party and staying home or voting Trump. The dem strangle hold on blacks? They are breaking free Because they see that Barky and the party screwed them. The Democrats chose to put a corrupt criminal on the ticket and they did that dishonestly. People see the masks ripped off the media who are pushing the Dems. The Democrat party has been destroyed and replace by a corrupted confederation of progressive elitists who hate the people that vote for them. And the voters are seeing it. Well done Barky! You did just what I thought you would do.

Posted by: madamemayhem (goddess of brownies) at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (yTnCT)

204 If ace wants to rake in the big bucks with his blog he needs to stop his co-bloggers from posting male nudes for a mid morning thread.

That shit's not cool man.

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (G8TO0)

205
Barone is with the Dark Side too?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (rW4yT)

206 https://tinyurl.com/n9rd6kp

Voto secreto Trump? Most Hispanics back deportation, want immigration cap cut in half

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (y3aQB)

207 Pretty much everything said above. I've been trying to get some NeverTrumpers to understand a few of these points, but there's no getting through the smug self-righteous stupidity that currently occupies the space between their ears.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (0mRoj)

208 >>>>>what hurts is knowing almost everyone I admired on the right, from
Limbaugh to Jonah Goldberg to Glen Beck, don't believe a word of it,

~~~~~

Why did you include Limbaugh? I have not heard either one of the Limbaughs talk about Never Trump. In fact, both are saying that the republican party is kaput.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (eM2Uz)

209 Come to the Dark Side. We have lead pipes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (zMjbQ)

210 willowed:

631
update on the Lost Angels County absentee ballot drop off fuss from earlier:

having
taken the time to read the envelope, it says right on it that i can
drop them off at any polling place today, so i'm off to my neighbor's
garage, red shirt and all.

Pro Tip: they added a new wrinkle: you have to *print* your street address, right under your signature block.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (bJoXB)

211 "Yeah I find this odd. I expected to hear nothing but 'HILLARYZ GUNNA WINZZZ BY SEVENTY!!11!!!1!!!11' by now.
Not sure what to make of the lack of exit poll data.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf?"

The way I see it is its not necessarily good news, but definitely not bad news since the media would leak good Hillary numbers. Does that make sense?

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (OD2ni)

212

The scum have all the major institutions plus New York and Kallyfornia. Texas will be top on the list of targets to destroy.

It's been a target ever since (D)s lost the state to (R)s with W as governor. They've been trying to kill Texas through open borders. And NFL season is a flashlight for carpetbaggers who've infested this great state - all those foreign jerseys walking around.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (gH1Qb)

213 Along these lines...

An economic adviser to Trump was being interviewed the other day along with a Hillary surrogate. The Trump person said that after Trump wins, he will be reaching out to the other side to heal wounds.

That better not fucking happen.

Retribution needs to be the order of the day. Vengeful, unrelenting punishment for those on the other side and double that for those on the right who strayed.

Actions have consequences. What makes an act "noble" is knowing, with absolute certainty, that what you do carries with it a severe penalty should things go wrong.

Let these fuckers who thought their High Minded objection to Trump was the modern day equivalent of being a Knight in shining armor find out what it's like to have their head mounted on a pike at the castle gate.

Ruin as many as possible. Break and humiliate the rest.

Posted by: jwest at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (Zs4uk)

214 >>>ace, you are 29, I have shoes older than that, seriously.

i don't know how many times I have to keep pulling people aside to tell them "The 29 thing is a joke, a schtick. I've been claiming to be 29 for ten years, and it was a lie when I first said it, too."

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (8rNrN)

215 In brighter news, my Mother just died and my dog has cancer.

Posted by: Chicago Vota at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (6xLO8)

216 To drink, or make chicken nuggets as a good foundation for drinking later?

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (tHwdc)

217
Some good news: I am eating my kids' halloween candy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (ODxAs)

218 "I'm proud to be a conservative here, but eventually I will have to take up arms because of it. It is what it is." - Country Boy

All due respect, guns and bullets would be ineffective in any conflict between the states and federal government. The offensive strategy would have to be based on obtaining control of and manipulating their information. This runs the gamut from identity theft of targeted individuals - journalists, politicians, bureaucrats, business leaders, etc., - to coordinated misinformation campaigns. They've already chosen the battle space, and the fight would need to be brought to them where they are, not where we are.

Posted by: Sirius the Canine Pundit at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (LBO1U)

219 My fear is that Hillary dies during her first term. And that she and the Democrats know this is likely, so they already have a succession plan in place for 2020: Kaine-Obama (Michelle).

I'm sure Hillary and her people have already talked about a position within her Administration for Michelle Obama to pad her weak resume and keep her in the public eye.

Also, knowing Hillary doesn't have much time, I bet that she has plans to implement her vengeance on her domestic enemies in her first term, as quickly and as soon as possible. And first step is the Supreme Court. I imagine she will not only get a radical on to replace RBG, but she'll also bully anyone else close to retirement to retire so she can pack the rest of the court.

She's going to completely transform the Federal government in this country within her first term, the effects of which will last for decades.

And absolutely no one will stop her. If no one was willing to stop her as a mere Presidential candidate, you can bet no one will dare stop her when she has all the power in the country. DOJ, FBI, Democrats and media (TV, print, cable, "entertainment", etc.) are all in her back pocket. And we know the GOP is utterly spineless.

I weep for our future...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (7A4qQ)

220 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy who Shouts "En fuego!" at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (DMUuz)

221 197
People here are still trashing McCain and Romney

++++

because they sucked
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (U0lQa)

If people here don't like Donald Trump, the reason he is where he is at this moment is not only because of SCOAMF, Hillary and the Leftists, but also because of McStains and Mitt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (mbhDw)

222 Nate Silver tweeted "Polls may have been wrong this year"

*********************

He's hedging his bets, big-ly.

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (G8TO0)

223 Wasn't Jonah Goldberg on video saying the media would have to be tough on That Horrid Woman as president to make up for coddling her during the campaign?

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (O7MnT)

224 Hey, have I talked to you about Herba Life?

Posted by: The nerdy Herba Life guy at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (NbJXF)

225 >>>If ace wants to rake in the big bucks with his blog he needs to stop his co-bloggers from posting male nudes for a mid morning thread.

That shit's not cool man.

This post needs to be bolded.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (xhKov)

226 I had 1 xanax floating around my drawer from 4 years ago. I saved it for an emergency, this is an emergency....I do feel less stressed than this morning......

Posted by: @lindafelldespair(gab.ai)-irredeemably deplorable,sexist islamaphobe,racist redneck at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (JNDQi)

227 Problems at West Deer twp. Allegheny co. Machines switching straight repub tickets to dem.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (89T5c)

228 That's my position too, and that's why I imagine this will be my last rodeo. There is simply no point "fighting" on the side of quislings and traitors who will sell you out if someone applies a little Social Justice Pressure to them on Muh Twitterz.

This is exactly how I feel.

They sound purely infantile.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (qCMvj)

229 216 To drink, or make chicken nuggets as a good foundation for drinking later?
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (tHwdc)

Nuggets.

It'll help you power through the evening.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (8hICw)

230 I didn't notice limbaugh was on that list either. Though I do think he supported a non-conservative (Trump) in the primary.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (8rNrN)

231
Ace is 29??

Thought he was older.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (rW4yT)

232
Dear Mr. ace,

You have spoken it perfectly for me.
I will continue to visit this blog and Drudge and (probably) to listen to Mr. l___augh.

But I will never vote for anything resembling an establishment-republican again. (Which means that most/all of my votes will likely be irrelevant write-ins.)

I will continue to read Coulter and Buchanan.

But mostly I will bury my nose in the New Testament and other important philosophical works.
It has ALWAYS been about each individual soul anyway.
Roughly quoted:
'Render unto Caesar those things which are Caesar's. And render unto God those things which are God's.'
Well, let's have it. On to Revelations!

Posted by: Stoic Trumpublican at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (dDOWg)

233 176 Cernovich Nate Silver tweeted "Polls may have been wrong this year" lol
Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (y3aQB)

You don't say.

When I voted, Westchester NY, regular presidential election lines. Maybe a five-10 minute wait. Only Trump stickers in the lot. No Hillary stickers. Voted straight Conservative Party ticket. Yes Trump is listed by that party too. Candidates can be on multiple lines. So I vote the Conservative Party as my pathetic attempt to keep Republicans honest.

Posted by: Iblis at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (rP2JJ)

234 If a Republican in the mold of Bush or Romney looked to be losing Florida and NC, we might despair. Not so with Trump. If Trump seems behind in Florida or NC tonight, consider that his issues and rhetoric have created a northern+western path to 270: NH, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada. These states have different demographics, economics, and cultures than FL/NC, so he may well run differently there. It is more credible to believe that Trump, rather than Romney, is rewriting the rules, creating new coalitions, and breaking out of the rut that the GOPe had dug us into.

Posted by: Never Give Up at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (lpHNf)

235 If you believe honest and honorable is possible in the real estate business. Not necessarily blaming Trump. It's the nature of the beast.

----------------

Well yeah it is possible. You can be honest and honorable and successful in just about any business.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (gmeXX)

236 Voto secreto Trump? Most Hispanics back deportation, want immigration cap cut in half

***

But... But...

That's RAYCISS!11!1!!!!11!!11!111!!!!1!1!!1!111!

Posted by: clint flicker at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (UWriB)

237 It's time to do what #NeverTrump has done and ingratiate oneself to the Permanent Liberal Lock on the White House the #NeverTrumpers have now created.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (8rNrN)

???

Yeah you said kinda the same thing months ago? About going over to the other side to survive? If that is what you are saying now, I have to disagree....Right or wrong, I will go down fighting for my side. It's not heroics..it's just how I am built

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (dELE3)

238 If ace wants to rake in the big bucks with his blog he needs to stop his co-bloggers from posting male nudes for a mid morning thread.

That shit's not cool man.

-
It was a plan to get us off the 'puters and to the polls.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (zMjbQ)

239 Posted by: Soothsayer at November 08, 2016 03:26 PM (rW4yT)

he is a Forner DUMOcrat who switched & has Lived inside the Beltway for Decades

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (y3aQB)

240 i don't know how many times I have to keep pulling people aside to tell them "The 29 thing is a joke, a schtick. I've been claiming to be 29 for ten years, and it was a lie when I first said it, too."

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (8rNrN)

You were really 19 when you first said it?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (zc3Db)

241
Meanwhile, over at Red State -- they're conservative dontchaknow:

VIDEO: Watch Trump Get Booed When He Shows Up to Vote
by Joe Cunningham

BREAKING: Hillary Wins Guam (Which Has Been Correct Since 1980)
by Joe Cunningham

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (kdS6q)

242 Posted by: redc1c4 at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (bJoXB)
They didn't make me do that in SB County.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (Q5Ymk)

243 Concern status:

[ ] Not Noted

[ ] Noted

[ X ] Trump/Pence because FUCK YOU

i giggle like i've eaten a whole box of edibles every time i see this...

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (bJoXB)

244 172 Jezebel,

They have conserved the decline of the US in most way, from education to health to demographics. They have conserved the tendency for the plutocrats and general oligarchy to take more from everyone else. They have conserved the "purification" of the GOP and so-called conservative movement so that the uncouth are driven out. Nobody who gives a crap about the working class or the future beyond a couple of earnings reports is welcome.

Oh, and above all else, they have conserved the trend of moving into a dark and occult world, where half the movers and shakers and just general players are into things like pedophilia. And Trump is bad for dirty talk.

The US needs an exorcism.
Posted by: Lance at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (GXcg+)

So what you are saying is that they have FAILED to conserve America and the rights and interests of American Citizens.

Posted by: Jezebel Moloch Clinton at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (GJ05Q)

245

i don't know how many times I have to keep pulling people aside to
tell them "The 29 thing is a joke, a schtick. I've been claiming to be
29 for ten years, and it was a lie when I first said it, too."

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (8rNrN)

I knew better. You've got the bitter smell of old man, like myself.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (2PHKP)

246 >> I said Barky Oblabo would be the death of the
>> Democrats. Not the u.s. just the Democrat party.

Certainly at the state level there's been a lot of truth to that, unfortunately you take one of those state Senators and ship them off to the Federal Congress and Turtle is there with the shears to snip off their balls.

Posted by: JEM at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (TppKb)

247 I'm confident and have a 1964 Elmers ready to uncap.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (cOHS7)

248 i don't know how many times I have to keep pulling people aside to tell them "The 29 thing is a joke, a schtick. I've been claiming to be 29 for ten years, and it was a lie when I first said it, too."

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (8rNrN)

Maybe if you threw in being a cheapskate and play the violin really badly into the schtick it would get more play.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (493sH)

249 233 So I vote the Conservative Party as my pathetic attempt to keep Republicans honest.
Posted by: Iblis at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (rP2JJ)

Me too. Regretting not reminding people to do that this morning. Hopefully most did as well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (mbhDw)

250 We have been on a 3 week 10-state trip and saw probably 5 hellary signs/stickers. We saw a LOT of Trump signs/stickers. Of course we did not visit states in other countries. Like NY CA and etc. If Trump happens to win, and I suppose he can despite the uncommon election fraud going on right now, the riots will start tomorrow. Are you ready?

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (zLDYs)

251 Trump can win without taking Florida.

Posted by: Never Give Up at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (lpHNf)

252 CNN is all excited about the heavy turnout of Hispanics in FL.NV and AZ... They're sure it's for Hillary...

Posted by: deplorable donna at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (O2RFr)

253 reading the comments--have I missed something?--looks like everyone is tossing in the towel.

It's not over, fer crying out loud.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (TnUKj)

254 "Either Trump successfully converts the GOP into a working class party, thrusting the GOP-E into the democrat camp where they belong, or the party is ripped apart by losing their conservative base permanently."

The Ds are now the party of The Borg. You're part of The Borg if you work in government, and sectors like healthcare and education that are dependent on government. The Borg has also been co-opting certain industries. It's now co-opting the GOPe. People who work in The Borg believe that they are immune from market forces.

The Rs are becoming the party of People Who Work for a Living, including small business entrepreneurs, who live at the risk of market forces every day.

Over 70% of R primary voters went with an outsider. It's not your Daddy's R party anymore. The brand is different, and is acceptable to millions more brought into the fold. In time, this can include even more minorities.

The #neverTrumpers have voted themselves off the R island.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (SIY7D)

255 OK, for some good news. I have become the first person on my dad's side of the family to see a grandchild in 150 years

My son's wife gave birth to a little boy Sunday.

I tired to one day register him, but had no success.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (NbJXF)

256 Ace is 29??

Thought he was older.

***

It's the lifestyle, man.

Posted by: clint flicker at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (UWriB)

257 211 The way I see it is its not necessarily good news, but definitely
not bad news since the media would leak good Hillary numbers. Does that
make sense?

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (OD2ni)
My thoughts as well.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (WuRdh)

258 'People are still trashing McCain and Romney'

Other things we've been trashing:
- The line at the DMV
- Barkycare premiums
- the latest outbreak of acne
- that spot on the carpet that won't go away
- The smelly guy in the elevator

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (QPfk5)

259 #nomalenudes

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (89T5c)

260 >>>
Don't sound like the words of a man who's lost all hope.

you're mistaking hatred for hope.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (8rNrN)

261 I'm now off to vote in Maryland.

MAGAX1!!

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (Uy6ri)

262 When I voted, Westchester NY, regular presidential election lines. Maybe a five-10 minute wait. Only Trump stickers in the lot. No Hillary stickers. Voted straight Conservative Party ticket. Yes Trump is listed by that party too. Candidates can be on multiple lines. So I vote the Conservative Party as my pathetic attempt to keep Republicans honest.
Posted by: Iblis at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (rP2JJ)

New York has a mf'n conservative party? Son of a gun. How does NY have a conservative party on the ballot, and all I got are R's, D's, Liber's, and Constitution?

Does the NY conserv party fill the lower lines on the ballot too?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (8hICw)

263 reading the comments--have I missed something?--looks like everyone is tossing in the towel.

It's not over, fer crying out loud.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (TnUKj)

Damn straight!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (zc3Db)

264 "222 Nate Silver tweeted "Polls may have been wrong this year"

*********************
He's hedging his bets, big-ly.
Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer"

Seriously? Silver is a lib, but he does not hide bad news for his side either.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:32 PM (OD2ni)

265 In the words of Winston Wolfe's brother, Wally Wolfe:

"Well, let's not start chopping off each other's dicks quite yet."

Way too much negativity, way too early.

Stand up, vote, and see what happens.

Win, lose or draw - NeverTrumps simply get the back of my hand from here on out.

But, let's focus on winning today until the polls close.

Expect the best. Prepare for the worst.

but, do your goddam job today and VOTE!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2016 03:32 PM (0cMkb)

266 "233 176 Cernovich Nate Silver tweeted "Polls may have been wrong this year" lol
Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:23 PM (y3aQB)

You don't say.

When I voted, Westchester NY, regular presidential election lines. Maybe a five-10 minute wait. Only Trump stickers in the lot. No Hillary stickers. Voted straight Conservative Party ticket. Yes Trump is listed by that party too. Candidates can be on multiple lines. So I vote the Conservative Party as my pathetic attempt to keep Republicans honest.
Posted by: Iblis at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (rP2JJ)"

I don't think silver tweeted that, sounds like another one of these people that has just been making shit up.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at November 08, 2016 03:32 PM (Uy8SG)

267 The importation of new voters is the tsunami that has been and will change this country irreversibly. The PTB could not convince Americans to follow in lockstep, so they've committed themselves to a new set of Americans.

Hillary!'s ascension will be Soros' Open Society vision writ large. And Bill Kristol et al. will cheer her on as long as they can stake out the David Brooks Token Conservative position and skim some coin.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 08, 2016 03:32 PM (1CroS)

268 off hand, i'd say that the MFM is either going to claim the FAB is leading and/or too close to call in as many states back east as possible, for as long as possible, to suppress voter turn out farther west...

Stout Hearts!

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 08, 2016 03:32 PM (bJoXB)

269 Trump can win without taking Florida.

-----------

Of course its possible. Just that if he loses FL it doesn't bode well for other states.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:32 PM (gmeXX)

270 224 Hey, have I talked to you about Herba Life?
Posted by: The nerdy Herba Life guy at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (NbJXF)

Gary Johnson in the house!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 03:32 PM (mbhDw)

271 This is the end of the affair. This is Us Being Done.

Wholeheartedly agree.

Posted by: Infidel at November 08, 2016 03:32 PM (Z1SI2)

272 "264 "222 Nate Silver tweeted "Polls may have been wrong this year"

*********************
He's hedging his bets, big-ly.
Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer"

Seriously? Silver is a lib, but he does not hide bad news for his side either.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:32 PM (OD2ni)"

He didn't say that, he's been justifying his 30% chances for Trump, that the uncertaintly may lead to a systemic polling error, but I think this is being construed as something different. Check his timeline.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (Uy8SG)

273 i don't know how many times I have to keep pulling people aside to tell them "The 29 thing is a joke, a schtick. I've been claiming to be 29 for ten years, and it was a lie when I first said it, too."

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (8rNrN)

Put it on the masthead.

And now I must go vote, even though I know it's hopeless.

But may God have mercy and we all find ourselves punching baby dicks tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (X6fMO)

274 Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:22 PM (8rNrN)

I'm still a conservative based on how I define conservatism. It's not a Party but a philosophy of life. If the philosophy is now your enemy that is really sad. I'd rather you pick specific targets of your hate but you gotta do what you gotta do.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (kaCWe)

275 #252 there is the other side of the coin that the white turnout is absolutely huge at this point. In many places already above 2012. Hard to say, but we have real-time data of who voted in FL that looks real promising at this point and as someone else already noted, there isn't the usually gloating by the left that they won. Very eerie the quiet and calm right now.

Posted by: Big D at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (SPmlI)

276 Nuggets.

It'll help you power through the evening.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (8hICw)

==============
I'll start the nuggets as soon as I finish this drink. Making a lot of nuggets.
Making a lot of drinks, too. Later.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (tHwdc)

277 >>If people here don't like Donald Trump, the reason he is where he is at this moment is not only because of SCOAMF, Hillary and the Leftists, but also because of McStains and Mitt.

Nonsense. Trump has been campaigning for over a year. People can make up their own minds about Trump without hearing from others.

Who the hell do people think are voting for Trump? Illegal aliens? He's outperforming McCain and Romney in early voting, he got more votes in the Republican primary than any Republican ever. These aren't all crossover voters or people who've never voted before. The vast majority are Republicans who vote every cycle.

The #NeverTrumpers are a very small group that the msm has been blowing way out of proportion the same way they blow anything that can hurt a Republican candidate out of proportion.

Eyes on the prize people. Trump is doing pretty damn well right now and a lot of the anecdotal information that is trickling in is very positive for him. Let's not give up while we are still in striking distance of actually winning this thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (/tuJf)

278 260
>>>

Don't sound like the words of a man who's lost all hope.

you're mistaking hatred for hope.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (8rNrN)
You take what you can get to keep the engine running. I've gone years on bitter resentment. It will sometimes turn back to hope, then pessimism. It's cyclical.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (2PHKP)

279 From one name to only one letter.

Posted by: steevy at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (r/0kC)

280 131 Trump's not an honest or honorable man. He binds himself to agreements, then tries his damndest to get out of them.

???

Like what?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (dELE3)
-----------

Hey, it must be true, because the media and the Never Trumpers keep saying it is.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (hA1V+)

281 >I've been trying to get some NeverTrumpers to understand a few of these points, but there's no getting through the smug self-righteous stupidity that currently occupies the space between their ears.
Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM (0mRoj)

People would rather vote for someone than against someone else. Especially when both candidates suck. 'stop hating trump because he's the candidate asshole' was never a great argument.

Hillary sucks. Trump sucks too. I hate them both. I have to vote for someone, regardless.

I am really curious what the third party votes will look like this election.

Posted by: Lea at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (lIU4e)

282 >> My son's wife gave birth to a little boy Sunday.

Good on yer.

Posted by: JEM at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (TppKb)

283 Seriously? Silver is a lib, but he does not hide bad news for his side either.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:32 PM (OD2ni)

Seriously?

Nate Silver is a founding member of Journolist.

Nothing he says is above the strongest doubt.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2016 03:34 PM (0cMkb)

284 Corntrollio alert!

Posted by: clint flicker at November 08, 2016 03:34 PM (UWriB)

285 If Ace really has been 29 for 10 years, I may have to start doing squats.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:34 PM (OD2ni)

286 Might drop some stress by picking up some ValueRite and heading down to the train tracks. Those hobo's are out there.

Posted by: Chicago Vota at November 08, 2016 03:34 PM (6xLO8)

287 so i'm off to my neighbor's
garage, red shirt and all.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 08, 2016 03:27 PM

Ummmm, about that red shirt ... you might want to reconsider...

Posted by: Former Crewmen of the U.S.S. Enterprise (NCC-1701), posting from the terminal in Buzzion's Place at November 08, 2016 03:35 PM (DMUuz)

288 It is now Survival Mode Time. It's time to do what #NeverTrump has done and ingratiate oneself to the Permanent Liberal Lock on the White House the #NeverTrumpers have now created.

Posted by: ace
****

Then you are no better than the traitors you claim to hate. Good luck with "ingratiating" yourself white boy.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at November 08, 2016 03:35 PM (uhftQ)

289 80 And villifying David Burge? Should the fact that he has taken the position that he has not give you some pause that reasonable people can disagree on l'affaire Trump? Again I say, C'mon...

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 03:10 PM (rbPc9)

How about Jeff B? He used to be quite welcome around here, IIRC, and on twitter he told the head blogger here he thinks Trump's voters are pretty much right. It's Trump JeffB has a problem with.

Is that guy nuts? Is he one of these establishment guys who's been bought and sold by Pelosi and Ryan or whatever?

The problem with all the NeverTrump arguing I see on twitter is that it's not usually the NRO guys or Ryan or Kristol who get into it with the lead Trump arguer here. It's guys like Burge and Hawkins and the HotAir gang and JeffB, all people once thought of as helpful or useful or smart or at least good to be on the same side as. I can usually guess when the next big NeverTrump post is coming up, because the day before or earlier that same day there's been a big twitter fight with one of those guys. It feels like that while the post is arguing the anger is with guys like Ryan and McConnell and Goldberg and Kristol, it's really these guys not agreeing that's causing the decision to say the party is over.

Posted by: Kurt Russell's Amazing Mustache from Bone Tomahawk at November 08, 2016 03:35 PM (sPO/s)

290 If ace wants to rake in the big bucks with his blog he needs to stop his co-bloggers from posting male nudes for a mid morning thread.

That shit's not cool man.

This post needs to be bolded.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

Done

Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 03:35 PM (2w7OO)

291 I am sick of "principled" never trump types, and I am pleasantly surprised that wingey Mark Levin isn't busy calling him snarky names, but is finally concentrating on the enemy. In 2008 our candidate was McLame, in 2012, Mittens or 0bamney....at fucking last

Posted by: cn at November 08, 2016 03:35 PM (wczgi)

292 I, for one, am really starting to like Trump. When he said, "she's a big phony" I loved it.

Posted by: Seems legit at November 08, 2016 03:35 PM (U+nHb)

293 The #NeverTrumpers are a very small group that the msm has been blowing way out of proportion the same way they blow anything that can hurt a Republican candidate out of proportion.

Yes BUT the "leaders" of the GOP and Past "Leaders" with access to the Media has blown their numbers all out of proportion and has hurt the "cause". And the "cause" being to stop The FAB.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:35 PM (dELE3)

294 Ace is 29??

Thought he was older.

-
Mainlining Valuerite will do that to you.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 03:36 PM (zMjbQ)

295 290 If Ace really has been 29 for 10 years, I may have to start doing squats.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:34 PM (OD2ni)

Never skip leg day.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:36 PM (8hICw)

296 Prudence is late to the party, but at least she's noticed what happened. Yay hindsight. Here's one thing she left of the list: Hillary has been gunning for the free-speech, free-press part of the first amendment since 1998 at least. She in particular wants to chill and to regulate political speech. In a Trump America, even if it's only lip service, the press will suddenly remember what free speech and limits on executive authority are for. That's 4 years of a young population untutored in such concepts to internalize the message, however insincere it's deliverers are. And you will find out which GOP who got nice work and wanted to keep it, was using Obama to cover their real resistance to changing the way things are run.

Posted by: SarahW at November 08, 2016 03:36 PM (Sp1NT)

297 Voting Machines in Washington County UTAH have been down allday! NO paper Ballots!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 08, 2016 03:36 PM (/D5Lf)

298 154 Honestly, If trump does win I will not shed a tear for those turds at WikiLeaks if a tank runs them down and grinds them into mush. I say we give them a decent burial out of respect for taking down Clinton...
Posted by: The Deplorable Garbone at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (5xuEg)

155 See i fight for what I believe in...not for what some party believes in. Sometime those 2 coincide, sometimes they don't.

That's how I feel ... right there. NGU ... can I get a fist-bump ?

Ace - just because you quit fvcking with politics, doesn't mean politics will ever quit fvcking with you. And besides - you don't strike me as the go along to get along type.
Posted by: ScoggDog at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (RKJF2)

156 4 PA counties - machine calibration errors

Bullfuckingshit
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (/D5Lf)

157 I couldn't bring myself to vote for Rob Portman today, but I couldn't vote for Strickland, who is an incompetent idiot. I was going to skip that part, but there was also a green party candidate on the ballot, and two independents. I made a guess and voted for one of the independents. If I thought Strickland had a chance, I would have voted for Portman, but I felt safe in sending a message in this case.
_____________________

I voted for the Green Party candidate instead of voting for John McCain.

The Greenie is a loon, but McCain is a backstabbing, lying, dumb-ass POS, and I won't ever give him my vote again.

McCain will win easily, but not with my vote.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 08, 2016 03:20 PM (4rh2D)

He got my vote too lol. That's two!

Posted by: Bernette at November 08, 2016 03:36 PM (JSys4)

299 299 290 If Ace really has been 29 for 10 years, I may have to start doing squats.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:34 PM (OD2ni)

Never skip leg day.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:36 PM (8hICw)

Use good form, too. A torn knee or blown disc will age you about ten years.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 08, 2016 03:37 PM (0mRoj)

300 >But but but yard signs!

I looked at yard signs this morning. None for trump, 3 (?) for Hillary and like 10 for state representatives. I saw NO ONE on the street corner this morning waving signs like I have every election year. We have massive, record breaking early voting in my state.

This is a weird election year.

Posted by: Lea at November 08, 2016 03:37 PM (lIU4e)

301 Seriously? Silver is a lib, but he does not hide bad news for his side either.
***********************

He got ass reamed for bloviating on how Trump would never win the primary. This election is a black swan event, to maintain his credibility there is absolutely no fucking way he's going to say Hillary has got it in the bag. There is no easily predicting this one, so I understand why he's hedging.

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:37 PM (G8TO0)

302 Concern status:

[ ] Not Noted
[ ] Noted
[ X ] Trump/Pence because FUCK YOU
Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer
--------------

Yeah, you would benefit from reading my whole comment, where I said that I want Trump to win.

But come on, don't be dumb. He's not honest or honorable. I'm tolerating him because he's the only option to stop Hillary.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 08, 2016 03:37 PM (xN1DB)

303 289
If Ace really has been 29 for 10 years, I may have to start doing squats.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:34 PM (OD2ni)

THREAD WINNER

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:37 PM (NbJXF)

304
Oh we're not being negative, we're being defensive against bad news. Most people think Trump has a chance. Especially since the dems are worried about MI.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 08, 2016 03:37 PM (ODxAs)

305 296 yes. And if we planned on defeating a media star we needed our own..Trump was the only choice

Posted by: cn at November 08, 2016 03:37 PM (wczgi)

306 "And other than the present Supreme Court Nominee...and that is only
Temporary- when have the Republicans EVER stonewalled anything or chose a
Hill to die on?" Nevergiveup

I'm not clairvoyant, I don't know how this day will end or what President Clinton II or a Republican Congress will or won't do in the future. My point was that the GOP has used up eight of its nine lives with its core constituency. If we wake up tomorrow and find the Clinton will be inaugurated in January and Republicans will still control Congress, it's time for them to put up or shut up. There will be no more second chances where I'm concerned, and I'll use whatever powers of persuasion I have to convince others to boycott Republicans running for federal office if the party betrays us again by refusing to fight.

Posted by: Sirius the Canine Pundit at November 08, 2016 03:37 PM (LBO1U)

307 I've been calling these people CON-servatives for a while now because that's precisely who and what they are.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 08, 2016 03:38 PM (vRI+7)

308 "The Trump person said that after Trump wins, he will be reaching out to the other side to heal wounds.
That better not fucking happen.
Retribution needs to be the order of the day." jwest

yeah, heal wounds maybe, but they are prisoners of war ... they tried to turn us commie, and many were traitors to do it. But they can help perform the Trump agenda of Americanism.

RICO prosecutions still need to proceed, repercussions for all levels of pay to play, power returned to states. Long road ahead, the enemies have made themselves known. Replace Ryan and McConnell with the tea party spirit that brought us to this dance.

Certainly if Hilda wins, we know she promised to send us deplorables into the shadows ... so ... game on. Identify your enemy, the NeverTrumpers did that for us in fine fashion, even back when they called the tea party wacko birds.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 08, 2016 03:38 PM (LhGBu)

309 No candidate for any office is perfect, the only thing you can do is vote for the guy that most closely matches your values; if there is no candidate that you agree with vote against the one you hate the most. FU vote if you will.

Posted by: USNtakim at November 08, 2016 03:38 PM (hMqvx)

310 Yeah I could buy the "not this guy, let people suffer" argument in 2008. OK, sure, lets give it a shot. But by 2012 that had failed; people didn't learn no matter how miserable things were. And now? You're just giving up the country.

Evil prospers when good stand aside.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 03:39 PM (39g3+)

311 >>Yes BUT the "leaders" of the GOP and Past "Leaders" with access to the Media has blown their numbers all out of proportion and has hurt the "cause". And the "cause" being to stop The FAB.

McCain and Romney aren't the leaders of anything. McCain is trying to hang on for dear life for one last term and Romney is done with politics. Nobody is listening to them.

And besides, after Trump came out and said he didn't consider McCain to be a hero because heroes don't get captured, are you surprised that McCain didn't jump on the Trump train?

Who cares? The goal is to elect Trump despite his flaws to stop Hillary. Everything else is just noise.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:39 PM (/tuJf)

312 Two things about the GOP and the Elites.
There are two heroes in this race, if not Mr. Trump himself, for whom I have gratitude if for no other reason than he really did not need all this aggravation, and yet, there he is.

Gov. Mike Pence is a really good man.
Dr. Ed Feulner (of the Heritage Foundation) is also a really good man.
I know both personally.

I hope they succeed.

Posted by: navybrat at November 08, 2016 03:39 PM (w7KSn)

313 @279 jackstraw: u r correct sir! hang in there peeps! There is hope! Yes they will cheat and yes it will b close but we can win! Vote, pray! Im in NC...Trump wins here. Im tracking Hillsborough in FL. Trump is on pace to win FL based on what we know. He has lead in OH, and IO at his lowest times. numbers last nite in NH were great for Trump. We are close! like 265 ev close... with battles over PA NV CO MI NM MN still being fought....all hope is not lost

Posted by: duncan at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (Z2KtO)

314 i don't know what I'll do. I'll keep the blog going for a time as I have no other source of income but I'll be pretty mechanical about it. (Moreso than usual, I mean.)

I want out.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (8rNrN)

I think there could be something like the Morning News threads with open discussion for the political junkies without in-depth commentary.

For yourself, your best work was in the "Kaboom" style writings that are part of the culture or zeitgeist. Some of your music and movie snark is also priceless and a needed belly laugh.

There's always boob pics for the clicks

Posted by: kbdabear at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (Ya7zs)

315 Thank you wiki leaks for exposing the evil and rot for all to see and vote for change or ignore and enable it.

@Cernovich
51m
"The real victor is the US public which is better informed as a result of our work." wikileaks.org/Assange-State

Posted by: Jezebel Moloch Clinton at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (GJ05Q)

316 #NeverTrumper: The media is a shitshow of bias and completely in the tank for Hillary, that said I cannot vote for Trump because he is corrupt and dishonorable.

Me: Where'd you get that Trump was corrupt and dishonorable?

#NeverTrumper: The media.

Me: ...............................

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (G8TO0)

317 No candidate for any office is perfect, the only thing you can do is vote for the guy that most closely matches your values; if there is no candidate that you agree with vote against the one you hate the most.

-------------

Or vote for neither.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (gmeXX)

318 I'm 55. Been thinking of an alternative plan for a while now.

Tonight will tell if Plan B is implemented.

Eight years of treading water enduring 6-7 day weeks has me worn down but I'm not past inspiration.

I voted. I've done my part.

It's up to my fellow Americans.

Posted by: Going Galt? at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (48QDY)

319 Um, Assange needs support. He and wiki have done the job our media should have been doing for the last 30 years. Iraq war was a lie. You need to read the entire email from Powell to HRC about email. He was using private email too, and his strongest warning was to avoid getting caught. He was using mobile devices in the SCIF too. Ask any veteran what would have happened if they took their cell phone into the SCIF.

Posted by: Bernette at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (JSys4)

320 Take it FWIW, but Slate has a tweet whining about GOP voter suppression.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (OD2ni)

321 I'm not clairvoyant, I don't know how this day will end or what President Clinton II or a Republican Congress will or won't do in the future. My point was that the GOP has used up eight of its nine lives with its core constituency. If we wake up tomorrow and find the Clinton will be inaugurated in January and Republicans will still control Congress, it's time for them to put up or shut up. There will be no more second chances where I'm concerned, and I'll use whatever powers of persuasion I have to convince others to boycott Republicans running for federal office if the party betrays us again by refusing to fight.
Posted by: Sirius the Canine Pundit at November 08, 2016 03:37 PM (LBO1U)

OK I got no problem with that...but as a realist, I know what a Republican Congress is capable of. LOL, so i will not be holding my breath. And if that is our last hope, I suggest stocking up on Guns, Ammo, and Drugs.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (dELE3)

322 "I didn't see the utter destruction to America that wrecking ball Barack Obama could do."

Wow. How was it possible NOT to see it?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (SRKgf)

323 I've gone years on bitter resentment. It will sometimes turn
back to hope, then pessimism. It's cyclical.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM

I apologize for thinking you weren't a Longhorns football fan.

Posted by: Former Crewmen of the U.S.S. Enterprise (NCC-1701), posting from the terminal in Buzzion's Place at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (DMUuz)

324 No matter what a scuzzball you think Trump is -- and he is -- he's not nearly as horrendous as the alternative. Demon worshipping pedophilic radical leftists vs scuzzball. People who DO evil regularly vs a guy who says crass and mean stuff. A woman who actively breaks the law and lives corruption vs a guy who talks crudely about women.

Tough choice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (39g3+)

325 Looks like there might really have been a monster vote hiding under Hillary's bed.

Posted by: DFCtomm at November 08, 2016 03:41 PM (RZ2f9)

326 "I see in your eyes, the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come, when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends, and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves, and shattered shields when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! For all that you hold dear, on this good earth, I bid you stand, men of the west!"

Posted by: Aragon talking ace of the ledge at November 08, 2016 03:41 PM (iHd88)

327 It is now Survival Mode Time. It's time to do what #NeverTrump has done and ingratiate oneself to the Permanent Liberal Lock on the White House the #NeverTrumpers have now created.

Ace ...

... you are, after all, A Grown Ass Man - and as such, must do what you think is best. I'm just going to give you some advice that's worth about what you'e paid for it.

First - Your chances of blending in are about as good as mine. We've both got big mouths, strong opinions, and roughly a snowballs chance in hell of not getting caught - let alone getting by - in the Brave New World that most are trying to create.

Second - If this New Utopia comes about, all those but the Truly Faithful will be rooted out. And folks like you and me sure as hell can't fake that.

So ... given that I can't run and can't ... I reckon all that's left is to fight. In whatever manner I'm willing and able to do. I'd suggest you think on that.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 08, 2016 03:41 PM (RKJF2)

328 >>>Wow. How was it possible NOT to see it?

Obsession with pants creases.

Posted by: wooga at November 08, 2016 03:41 PM (qA3QY)

329 after Trump wins, he will be reaching out to the other side to ~~heal~~ pour salt into the wounds.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (zMjbQ)

330 Slate has a tweet whining about GOP voter suppression.

***

Surely you must mean voter suppression by the GOP.

Posted by: clint flicker at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (UWriB)

331 I can't imagine ever voting again. If Trump loses, the GOP will crow about how "you had your chance" and "see what happens when you don't listen to us." And in 2020, they choose someone like George McGovern as the nominee.

Today, there's a choice in the vote. If Hillary wins, next time there won't be.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (8mIih)

332 331
Posted by: ScoggDog at November 08, 2016 03:41 PM (RKJF2)

I see by your lucid response that you are still in a state of sobriety.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (8hICw)

333 235 If you believe honest and honorable is possible in the real estate business. Not necessarily blaming Trump. It's the nature of the beast.

----------------

Well yeah it is possible. You can be honest and honorable and successful in just about any business.
Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (gmeXX)

It's all relative right?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (kaCWe)

334 Just got my daily ORM-D package!

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (cOHS7)

335 If Amnesty Rubio were the nominee, would we all be voting for him? Or would we be #NeverRubios?

Posted by: BacktoGA at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (QUl0c)

336 The two biggest problems are apparently tattoos and nudes. And really big ring things in ear lobes are in a close third place.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (NUqwG)

337 Trump suing the state of Nevada bc they allowed people to vote past the times polls were supposed to be closed. Asking all votes cast late be impounded.

Posted by: L, Elle at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (6IPEM)

338 So Ace, does that mean you will go Libertarian or full on prog retard? Can't beat'em join'em kind of thing?

Posted by: Jaimo at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (9U1OG)

339 If trump wins how many skulls we gonna see?

Posted by: Mst3k at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (iywp9)

340

I want to say

Thak you Ace, for this hive of villainy and scum.

They cant take our minds, or our thoughts. I will not submit .

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (1TXSC)

341 And besides, after Trump came out and said he didn't consider McCain to be a hero because heroes don't get captured, are you surprised that McCain didn't jump on the Trump train?

As I have said many times, i disagreed with what Trump said about McCain, HOWEVER, people seem to forget before Trump said that McCain had come out and attacked Trump pretty viscously.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (dELE3)

342 227 Problems at West Deer twp. Allegheny co. Machines switching straight repub tickets to dem.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2016 03:28 PM (89T5c)

-----------------------------------------------------------------

To add to why the GOP sucks theme: It would be nice to have a political party that throws a fit over election fraud and has the guts to use words like rigged when it happens.

Yes it is a fact - the system is rigged. It is not a impossible barrier to overcome in an election, but it makes it so much harder to win it when one party does everything they can to steal elections, while the other party does everything they can reassure and rebuke their own voter base that the system is not rigged and therefore we need Amnesty, TPP, and another Middle Eastern adventure to win more votes. We just have to take another for the team...again...and again...

Posted by: William Eaton at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (MuTTO)

343 CNN has an articleon its webpage. Pantsuit Nation: let me Vomit now

Posted by: The Deplorable Garbone at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (5xuEg)

344 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

What ever happened to that guy?
Adam or Albert something......

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (QM5S2)

345 If Amnesty Rubio were the nominee, would we all be voting for him? Or would we be #NeverRubios?

I have wondered this also.

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (O7MnT)

346 >>>Second - If this New Utopia comes about, all those but the Truly Faithful will be rooted out. And folks like you and me sure as hell can't fake that.

Oh, I don't know about that. A man can fake a lot of things if he sets his mind to it.

Posted by: Glenn Beck at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (8rNrN)

347 Tough choice.

***

Indeed. I saw a post on Facebook earlier that the choice was between "a bigot and a criminal." Well, even if I accepted the premise that Trump is a bigot (which I do not) there's still no choice. Bigotry ain't a crime, folks.

Posted by: clint flicker at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (UWriB)

348 339 If Amnesty Rubio were the nominee, would we all be voting for him? Or would we be #NeverRubios?
Posted by: BacktoGA at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (QUl0c)

Hard to say for sure (all hypothetical), but I'd like to say that I would not vote for him.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (8hICw)

349 You know what shows the GOPe/NeverTrumpers are unfit to lead? They couldn't stop Trump. All of their girlish games were useless against someone who just didn't care.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (J70i0)

350 343
If trump wins how many skulls we gonna see?

Posted by: Mst3k at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (iywp9)
All of them.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (WuRdh)

351 "334 Slate has a tweet whining about GOP voter suppression.

***

Surely you must mean voter suppression by the GOP.
Posted by: clint flicker"

I do mean that. And stop calling me Shirley.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:44 PM (OD2ni)

352
I agree that one of the weirdest things in this weirdest election ever has been the lack of presidential yard signs. I've seen like 1 each in a pretty damn big neighborhood. Nobody really wants to show support for either one.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 08, 2016 03:44 PM (ODxAs)

353 If trump wins how many skulls we gonna see?

Posted by: Mst3k at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (iywp9)

Everyone of the MFM

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 03:44 PM (493sH)

354 Thank you Ace, for this hive of villainy and scum.

***

This WRETCHED hive of villainy and scum, thank you very much,

Posted by: clint flicker at November 08, 2016 03:44 PM (UWriB)

355 Posted by: Roland THTG at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (QM5S2)
Wasn't it Allen dedicated 10ther?

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 08, 2016 03:44 PM (Q5Ymk)

356 TOILET LORD WHY HAVE U FORSAKEN ME

YOU MADE THE CHICKEN MADRAS, NOW SUFFER IN SILENCE.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBURGERS ONLY COMPLETION THIS WEEK at November 08, 2016 03:44 PM (8J/Te)

357 Trump wasn't perfect but name one of the candidates that could withstand and move forward against the anchluss from the media. Jeb would have run once his butter knife got tarnished. Mario would have tried to be polite and mildly talk his way into the grave. As for Cruz, he would have become bitter.

Trump took a lot of mud and brushed it off. I can respect that.

Posted by: Snarky McSnarkyface at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (6xLO8)

358 Dear god-
After the last 8 years of continuous disappointments, you kind of owe us one here. Kthx

Posted by: Mst3k at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (iywp9)

359 339 If Amnesty Rubio were the nominee, would we all be voting for him? Or would we be #NeverRubios?
Posted by: BacktoGA at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (QUl0c)

Oh, he will be.

Amnesty will be off the table in 2020.

Only thing holding him back.

Posted by: Going Galt? at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (48QDY)

360 people seem to forget before Trump said that McCain had come out and attacked Trump pretty viscously.

I know it's a typo, but "McCain" and "viscous" in the same sentence fills my head with "Ewwww."

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (O7MnT)

361 Ace, you might take a look at the Good Shit Blog. It's run by a retired professor who is rather unusual. http://tinyurl.com/6x3xrv

Might be a good format to add to the HQ. He does include some skin in his posts with some travel shit. Really entertaining. I think the horde would enjoy an expansion of the core "Smart Military" format.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (NbJXF)

362 Glad everyone wouldn't vote for Rubio, Jeb, etc. They all would ensure the destruction of the party long-term for sure. Trump is a wildcard, but he's got some core issues that give enough cover to vote for. Glad I wasn't torturing myself!

Posted by: BacktoGA at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (QUl0c)

363 You know what shows the GOPe/NeverTrumpers are unfit to lead? They couldn't stop Trump. All of their girlish games were useless against someone who just didn't care.

------------

I think there are more than a few NeverTrumpers who would agree with this sentiment.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (gmeXX)

364 Nobody really wants to show support for either one.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 08, 2016 03:44 PM (ODxAs)

People are not fond of having their cars keyed or windows broken

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (dELE3)

365 Maybe next time. And then if we get the Senate and the House, look out, baby!

Posted by: Whig Party Chairman at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (df+Zi)

366 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

-
Trump / Scipio Africanus 2016!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (zMjbQ)

367 I do mean that. And stop calling me Shirley.

***

I knew a man named Shirley years ago. Well, not personally, but I knew OF him.

Posted by: clint flicker at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (UWriB)

368 353
You know what shows the GOPe/NeverTrumpers are unfit to lead? They
couldn't stop Trump. All of their girlish games were useless against
someone who just didn't care.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (J70i0)

Yes, the fact they couldn't stop Trump proves that they aren't just corrupt, but also inept. They're irredeemable.

Posted by: DFCtomm at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (RZ2f9)

369 The #NeverTrumpers are a very small group that the msm has been blowing way out of proportion the same way they blow anything that can hurt a Republican candidate out of proportion.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:33 PM (/tuJf)

They preen and love the liberal attention, that is for sure.

I envision the lefties picking fleas and ticks out of their hair for them. A pat on the head here and there.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (qCMvj)

370 >>As I have said many times, i disagreed with what Trump said about McCain, HOWEVER, people seem to forget before Trump said that McCain had come out and attacked Trump pretty viscously.

Because at their core, they are all politicians, even Trump.

I do not care. I am not voting for them. I am voting for me and my interests.

And I would walk across flaming glass to stop Hillary from packing the Supreme Court. I don't want anymore Wise Latinas or racial lesbians.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (/tuJf)

371 329 Looks like there might really have been a monster vote hiding under Hillary's bed.
Posted by: DFCtomm at November 08, 2016 03:41 PM (RZ2f9

It is the crickets from the media on exit polling?

Is it the MSM having difficulty finding Hillary voters to interview and clusters of them?

Trump 69-73 million votes 320+ electoral votes.

Posted by: Jezebel Moloch Clinton at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (GJ05Q)

372 129 The three major tracking polls -- IBD Reuters and LA -- all ended with Trump up by 2% or more, with gains in the last week.

Trump can win the EC even if down by 2% to 3%
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 08, 2016 03:18 PM (SIY7D)

-----

Igno,

Major change in the IBD weighings yesterday. They moved the Dems from 37% to 32%. Increased the Ind weighing by the same amount. Can't tell why. FWIW, the Rs always had the highest unweighed %.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (Sqtxg)

373 Voting machine problems reported across metro Detroit.

Another state in play.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (/D5Lf)

374 I will say this: if Hillary wins, then sign up for every single government assistance, welfare, social security, gimme state giveaway that exists. All of them. Because you may as well go down with the ship of state rather than fighting the rats.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (39g3+)

375 Nate Silver did tweet that if the voting is "close -- Trump *probably* wins the Elect. College."

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (lpHNf)

376 "342 So Ace, does that mean you will go Libertarian or full on prog retard? Can't beat'em join'em kind of thing?
Posted by: Jaimo"

Wouldn't blame him for going full prog. Lots of money to be made doing that. I mean, if we're all F'd anyway.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (OD2ni)

377

New Party Name

Wretched Hive of Villainy and Scum

WHVS

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (1TXSC)

378 328 No matter what a scuzzball you think Trump is -- and he is -- he's not nearly as horrendous as the alternative. Demon worshipping pedophilic radical leftists vs scuzzball. People who DO evil regularly vs a guy who says crass and mean stuff. A woman who actively breaks the law and lives corruption vs a guy who talks crudely about women.

Tough choice.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Show me a guy who never talked crudely about women a decade ago and I'll show you a member of the GTQ community. MY sister in law is a member of the L squad and the stuff she says about women would make a marine blush.

As a result, I'm giving Donald a pass on the pussy grabbing quote. Print this out and present it to anyone who complains.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (kfcYC)

379 You know what shows the GOPe/NeverTrumpers are unfit to lead? They
couldn't stop Trump. All of their girlish games were useless against
someone who just didn't care.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at November 08, 2016 03:43 PM (J70i0)

Yes, the fact they couldn't stop Trump proves that they aren't just corrupt, but also inept. They're irredeemable.
Posted by: DFCtomm at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (RZ2f9)

They lack empathy.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (qCMvj)

380 One of the scenarios you can game out for 2020 is That Horrid Woman proposing Amnesty and Rubio positioning himself as its biggest opponent. How would that play with the horde?

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (O7MnT)

381 And besides, after Trump came out and said he didn't consider McCain to be a hero because heroes don't get captured, are you surprised that McCain didn't jump on the Trump train?
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As I have said many times, i disagreed with what Trump said about McCain, HOWEVER, people seem to forget before Trump said that McCain had come out and attacked Trump pretty viscously
------------------------------------------

But but but McCain disparaged W's service in the National Guard. Such a vicious cycle.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 08, 2016 03:47 PM (NUqwG)

382 Something else for those trying to switch sides, if you aren't part of the upper class you are still a peon. Just less of a peon than the horde. You won't be getting away or getting special treatment as you aren't part of the victim class.
Fight and possibly win. Surrender and die for certain.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at November 08, 2016 03:47 PM (uhftQ)

383
I was 29 just like Ace until my oldest son turned 29. Now I'm 39.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 08, 2016 03:47 PM (eM2Uz)

384 200 >>>Ace - just because you quit fvcking with politics, doesn't mean politics will ever quit fvcking with you. And besides - you don't strike me as the go along to get along type.

the liberals are now patrolling the battlefield and executing the wounded. The #NeverTrump wing not only has acquiesed to this, but they are pointing out the wounded-but-still-fighting (us) so the liberals will shoot them and spare them.

It is now Survival Mode Time. It's time to do what #NeverTrump has done and ingratiate oneself to the Permanent Liberal Lock on the White House the #NeverTrumpers have now created.

Posted by: ace

Jeesus, she hasn't won yet.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 03:47 PM (kfcYC)

385 Ace is channeling my rage today.

Here's the thing: Those in power have SO MUCH to lose from Trump simply putting sunlight on them, that I don't see him living to January 20th if by some miracle he pulls it off today. And it won't truly be a "partisan" that gives the order. We are governed by an unelected bureaucracy now. Threre are a million more unionized Federal lackeys than there are manufacturing jobs in this country.

This ARMY of so-called "public servants" are a patronage class, who don't care who's in charge so long as the growth of government is not impeded in any way. They fucking LOVED GWB, even if they didn't say so publicly. And they love Obama for all the same reasons. And they will absolutely kill to keep what's theirs.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at November 08, 2016 03:47 PM (S2VsH)

386 NeverTrumpers are a very small group that the msm has been blowing way out of proportion

I agree, they are very visibly represented by a small number of elites with megaphones but they're a pretty itty portion of the population. Just like the PUMAs in 2008.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 03:47 PM (39g3+)

387 They lack empathy.

***

Among other things.

Posted by: clint flicker at November 08, 2016 03:48 PM (UWriB)

388 377

New Party Name

Wretched Hive of Villainy and Scum

WHVS

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (1TXSC)
Seconded.
Though I'd prefer Kenobi style, Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 03:48 PM (WuRdh)

389 They set themselves upon a palace coup -- knifing the rest of the party in the back -- to take back their party.

Word.

Posted by: Anton Drexler at November 08, 2016 03:48 PM (vBeA5)

390 guypbenson
08/11/16 14:44
FWIW, just chatted with some RNC folks who've combed over lots of data & are feeling bullish in some blue states.

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 03:48 PM (y3aQB)

391 Drove from south Orange county Florida to north Seminole county Florida this morning. Saw one Hillary, yes only one yard sign, including outside polling precincts.. Saw about 50 Trump signs at every polling place not to mention in folks yards and businesses and such.. Points to ground game, but it don't mean a thing.

Posted by: The Deplorable Garbone at November 08, 2016 03:48 PM (5xuEg)

392 This was fucking awesome:

https://twitter.com/welovetrump/status/796071683958439937

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:48 PM (G8TO0)

393 Herman Cain vs. Erick Erickson WSB Thunderdome 2017.

Posted by: Jezebel Moloch Clinton at November 08, 2016 03:48 PM (GJ05Q)

394 There's always boob pics for the clicks

Posted by: kbdabear at November 08, 2016 03:40 PM (Ya7zs)

Heh. I read that first as "chicks"..

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 08, 2016 03:49 PM (wtvvX)

395 I was depressed in 08. It was my first election, and the vast majority of my generation heavily drank the Obama coolaid. Everyone around mewas excited about the political process, and knew that they were part of something exciting and historic. And then there was me. I'm not a confrontational person. I wasn't going to loudly argue with my peers about how wrong they were. But it was still envious. They were genuinely happy about being able to vote for Obama. I was stuck voting for the unexciting old white guy who didn't really seem to care if he won.

2012 was worse. Like many here, I was absolutely sure that the polls were wrong. America had woken up and realized that the stupidity of voting for someone based on something as superficial as skin color, and they were going to put someone else in charge. It annoyed me that the GOP had picked what seemed to me to be the worst person to make that case, but whatever. Romney was going to win. Until he lost. The day after election on 2012 sucked. America didn't wake up, we were still in this nightmare.

Today felt better than either of those. Maybe I'm just jaded now. I've spent the past 8 years hearing people call me racist or ignorant either explicitly or implying it. The GOP never really wanted to win, but Trump did, and that was unforgivable to them. I'm not voting for the designated loser any more.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 08, 2016 03:49 PM (KUaJL)

396 Don't sound like the words of a man who's lost all hope.

you're mistaking hatred for hope.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (8rNrN)

Hatred is a woefully misunderstood sentiment. Of itself, hatred is not necessarily a bad or wrong thing. Some people, things, ideas and situations are deserving of all the hatred we can muster. Communists, for example. Nazis. Quislings. Traitors. Pedophiles. Cowards.

Show me a man who doesn't hate such creatures and I'll show you a man without character or conviction--and then you can add him to the list and hate him, too.

Posted by: troyriser at November 08, 2016 03:49 PM (OGbEB)

397 That's my position too, and that's why I imagine this will be my last rodeo. There is simply no point "fighting" on the side of quislings and traitors who will sell you out if someone applies a little Social Justice Pressure to them on Muh Twitterz.

My support for Trump solidified when he didn't throw his guy under the bus for knocking down that girl reporter. You know Jeb! would have.

Posted by: Jean at November 08, 2016 03:49 PM (2RVmA)

398 i don't know what I'll do. I'll keep the blog going for a time as I have no other source of income but I'll be pretty mechanical about it. (Moreso than usual, I mean.)

I want out.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:07 PM (8rNrN)

Don't worry, I've already got your name in for Head Writer of the Retribution Camps.

You'll help former writers like Charles C.W. Cooke and Jim Geraghty pen their confessions and express the proper amount of remorse and regret.

Then you'll turn up the voltage and their testicle wires.

I envy your position.

Posted by: jwest at November 08, 2016 03:49 PM (Zs4uk)

399 no idea what's going on today.....got ewtn on peeking on fb and twitter but no idea........

Posted by: phoenixgirl, gird up your loins, this is not the time to go wobbly at November 08, 2016 03:49 PM (0O7c5)

400 I do like the name "Wolverines" for a party but honestly, if Hillary wins, then there's no point in even having another political party.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (39g3+)

401 How about a hearty FU to the GOP. And a bigger FU to the more progressive Dems. I side with the Constitution and the USA...

Posted by: USNtakim at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (hMqvx)

402

We go under ground .

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (1TXSC)

403
CNBC voting machine "glitches" in some precincts Durham County NC.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (493sH)

404 The aftermath of this election should be very interesting.

I wonder if we'll see any follow up on some of the amazing stuff to come out.

Posted by: Harun at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (UBBWX)

405 Weird scenes inside the gold mine...

Posted by: Jim Morrisson at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (FyRdJ)

406 Don't mean to be rude, but this thread is starting to remind me of this advice.

http://tinyurl.com/mgmtrjj

We haven't lost yet, stop acting like we have.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (NbJXF)

407 380 One of the scenarios you can game out for 2020 is That Horrid Woman proposing Amnesty and Rubio positioning himself as its biggest opponent. How would that play with the horde?
Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (O7MnT)

With Hillary in, Amnesty doesn't make it to June 2017.

Posted by: Going Galt? at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (48QDY)

408 Wouldn't blame him for going full prog. Lots of money to be made doing that.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM

If that happens, there's going to be a run on one-name nics.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (DMUuz)

409 Eating spicy chicken wings for lunch and reading comments = bad combination. Now I want to simultaneously cry and barf. Sigh.

Posted by: IC at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (a0IVu)

410 Even here in Seattle I have seen only one Hillary yard sign while out for the morning walk. My libtard BIL was very active in the last couple of elections, lots of blog posts, etc. Total radio silence this year.

Posted by: Fred Rogers II at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (AkTSb)

411 Wednesday morning will come, as it must, and probably it come without the SMOD. I am sure that when wednesday gets here, I will no longer be a republican. I'm also sure that I willnever again refer to myself as an "american," that flock of bleating, doltish sheep who will chose hyenas as their annointed leaders. As for the mccainiacs, f**k them one and all.

Posted by: Erik in Texad at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (Rzloy)

412 68 30 Hell there's alot to still fight for. Win or lose, this is just the beginning.
Posted by: jacke
-----------

You can fight, but you're going to lose, and you're going to make enemies in the process.

We saw the beginning of this in the gay marriage debate. The left went full totalitarian. Politics is now part of every area of your life, and it had better be the *right* politics, friend, or something unfortunate might happen to this nice little bakery you got there.

If Hillary wins, the Democrats never have to fear losing the White House ever again. There will be no consequences to their thuggery. The Free Shit Army will show up to keep them in office. Congress? We can win Congress, right? Yeah. They'll either roll over or get rolled over. The states? Federal law crushes all.

No, this is it. There are no winnable fights left after this one.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 08, 2016 03:09 PM (xN1DB)

You type well one-handed.

Posted by: cornbred at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (JfGx9)

413 "I didn't see the utter destruction to America that wrecking ball Barack Obama could do."

Wow. How was it possible NOT to see it?

-
I knew it would be bad but I had no idea it would be this bad. Of course, at that time I didn't know the GOP had gone all eunuch all the time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (zMjbQ)

414 392 This was fucking awesome:

https://twitter.com/welovetrump/status/796071683958439937
Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:48 PM (G8TO0)

I was skeptical.
I clicked anyway.
Yeah, that was awesome.

Posted by: WisRich at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (hdpay)

415 "Trump suing the state of Nevada bc they allowed people to vote past the
times polls were supposed to be closed. Asking all votes cast late be
impounded."

Past tense? The polls are already closed in Nevada?

Posted by: Dirty Randy at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (jjaLl)

416 >>One of the scenarios you can game out for 2020 is That Horrid Woman
proposing Amnesty and Rubio positioning himself as its biggest opponent.
How would that play with the horde?

First, Hillary/Kaine will have moved way past Amnesty w/4 years of open borders-no refugee left behind by 2020; any immigration reform after the barn door's been open for 12 years is useless.

Second, Sick Hillary won't make it to 2020. Hell, I'd be surprised if she makes it a year in office should she manage to win this thing.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (NOIQH)

417 Well, they can have their party back. I will not belong to any party which demands my vote and support -- but not my input as to my own list of political aspirations.

A political party is nothing more than a group of people banding together for convenience in order to advance shared goals.

If a political party does not share my goals, why would I be a part of it?

The converse is also true. If I do not share the goals of a political party, why would that party want me in it?

There is nothing personal about either position. It is transactional. If I band with group X, objective A will be achieved. I don't have to like the people in the group, I don't have to agree with them about objectives B-Z. I merely have to agree with that group about objective A. Once that is done, move on to see about agreement with further objectives. Now, it may be more time and energy efficient to bunch objectives together in which case the determination is whether group X, in the aggregate, serves to advance more objectives with which I agree than I do not. If yes, then support, if no, then do not. This is not a difficult concept.

I do not comprehend this equation of personhood with political affiliation. It's freaking politics, that's it. It's not moral worth. Morality informs politics but they are not, and should not be, interchangeable.

Let me disgress for a moment into this whole keeping of lists. As someone who is fond of her grudges, no, it's true!, I comprehend the desire for it. I also comprehend that it is not a particularly positive or wholesome life trait which should be emulated by others.

I cannot help but note that those who are keen to say there will be an accounting of those who supported Trump are not best pleased when the reciprocal is applied to them. If it is acceptable to claim there will be an accounting for one position, then it is acceptable for there to be an accounting for the other. Needless to say, human nature is rather fond of rules for me but not for thee.

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

418 Past tense? The polls are already closed in Nevada?

Posted by: Dirty Randy at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (jjaLl)

Early voting.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (8hICw)

419 #405 My favorite Greatest Hits collection.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (S2VsH)

420 I side with the Constitution and the USA...
Posted by: USNtakim at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (hMqvx)

Amen brother!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (dELE3)

421 I side with the Constitution and the USA...
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Darrell Castle 2016

Posted by: RioBravo at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (NUqwG)

422 We saw the beginning of this in the gay marriage debate.

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We also saw a lot of people not engage because "it didn't effect them" who are now very upset with the predictable events that followed.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (gmeXX)

423 Not a whole lot to say or add to this post right now. Trying to not go down this road until we see what tonight brings.

Posted by: RM at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (U3LtS)

424 Wasn't it Allen dedicated 10ther?

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 08, 2016 03:44 PM (Q5Ymk)
Right.Guess he went hermit or something.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (QM5S2)

425 "Trump suing the state of Nevada bc they allowed people to vote past the

times polls were supposed to be closed. Asking all votes cast late be

impounded."

Past tense? The polls are already closed in Nevada?

======================

No. The legal motion is for activity that took place in Clarke Co., NV on the last day of early voting.

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (JBggj)

426 >>They preen and love the liberal attention, that is for sure.
I envision the lefties picking fleas and ticks out of their hair for them. A pat on the head here and there.Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (qCMvj)

Zod will offer his services to the New Model Government as a camp
trusty. I will seek to appease my paymasters and gain their favor by
helping to categorize the inmates: True Trump supporters, Situational
Loyalists, NeverTrump Squealish, collaborationist Establishment recruits,
and "Other-Miscellaneous."

And you're right--the NeverTrumpers are reportedly beneath the contempt of our pending jailkeepers.

Posted by: General Zod at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (Bdeb0)

427
Hah, @392. Great.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (ODxAs)

428 I was skeptical.
I clicked anyway.
Yeah, that was awesome.

***************

In Cleveland too!

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (G8TO0)

429 Welcome aboard Ace.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Standing in line to vote at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (UVKwo)

430 Ace,

This post is spot on.

Thanks.

Also I'd like to thank JJ for his support of Trump. I know you have some issues with him, but have kept your eyes on the ball.

Let's win this!

Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 08, 2016 03:52 PM (Sqtxg)

431 #255 OK, for some good news. I have become the first person on my dad's side of the family to see a grandchild in 150 years

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (NbJXF)
=================
Congratulations, and continue in good health!

My in-laws are expecting their first great-grandchild in April (the late Mr. Deplorable's first grandchild). FIL will be 90. If he makes it. Fingers crossed, he's getting pretty rickety and forgetful. MIL turning 88 next month. She's holding her own, both physically and mentally.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (tHwdc)

432 Yes Trump is listed by that party too. Candidates can be on multiple lines.

I'm in NY and I also voted Trump-Pence on the conservative ticket.

Egg McMuffin wasn't even on the ballot was he? I don't remember seeing him.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (WlGX+)

433 I do like the name "Wolverines" for a party but honestly, if Hillary wins, then there's no point in even having another political party.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (39g3+)

You will never win Ohio with a name like that.

Posted by: Thursby at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (1wofY)

434
CNBC has on the president of Wellesley College talking about the Beast and get this diversity of thought. Yeah, I'll bet there's a whole lot of that Wellesley

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (493sH)

435 Maryland AG Mosby breaks voting law by taking a picture in the booth and posting it.

Idiot

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (/D5Lf)

436
We haven't lost yet, stop acting like we have.

-
Tonight we'll water our horses in the Potomac River!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (zMjbQ)

437

I do not care if the GOP goes under. We dont

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (1TXSC)

438 As someone who occasionally does figure modeling (read: nekkid) for art schools and studios around ATL, I thought today's posting of "Male Model Resting" was a remarkably bold and dare I say moronic choice.

Mock if you like, but it's $33/hr (tax-free!), all the Pellegrino I can drink, and yeah, I've gotten a few dates out of it.

Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (e9mZG)

439 403

CNBC voting machine "glitches" in some precincts Durham County NC.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 03:50 PM (493sH)

THIS is a well know ploy in Durham. They pull this shit every four years to get a Judge to force the county to keep open the polls so they can go out and try to grab the brothers who have not voted.

EVERY election they do this when they are down. It is a good sign. When Helms beat Gantt, a black guy, they got a federal judge to keep the polls open for three hours after closing. Helms found another judge to overrule him.

Wild West!

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (NbJXF)

440 "393 Herman Cain vs. Erick Erickson WSB Thunderdome 2017."

I going to give that crying pussy 9 punches to the jaw, 9 punches to the belly and 9 kicks to the nuts. I call it my 9-9-9 plan.

Posted by: Herman Cain at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (OD2ni)

441 Great post Ace and my feelings exactly.

With a HRC win, expect to be lectured to on how we now "all have to come together". Fuck you.

We will be told that the Republican's in Congress are fighting the HRC machine daily and therefore they need our support both financially and by votes.
Fuck you.

Posted by: Cheri at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (oiNtH)

442 I do not comprehend this equation of personhood with political affiliation. It's freaking politics, that's it. It's not moral worth. Morality informs politics but they are not, and should not be, interchangeable.

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

This is something that the Left does. The personal is political and vice versa. It's dehumanizing. I am not my party affiliation. There is more to me than just politics.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (KUaJL)

443 The main reason I voted for Trump: if (when?) Clinton wins, the GOP goes on as it is, a weak imitation of a resistance party, but always with surrender as the end goal. If Trump wins, I see that as the best chance for the GOP to be utterly destroyed, and then maybe something effective can be born.

Let it burn.

Posted by: Me at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (RYASC)

444
Past tense? The polls are already closed in Nevada?
Posted by: Dirty Randy at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (jjaLl)

Early voting

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (lKyWE)

445 Mock if you like, but it's $33/hr (tax-free!), all the Pellegrino I can drink, and yeah, I've gotten a few dates out of it.

***************************

I was with you until you said Pellegrino.

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (G8TO0)

446 >>>Posted by: Kurt Russell's Amazing Mustache from Bone Tomahawk at November 08, 2016 03:35 PM (sPO/s)

You know Paul Ryan is all aboard the Trump Train, right? Why is everyone acting like the ESTABLISHMENT (tm) hasn't been shilling for Trump since May?

Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (9qDRl)

447 THIS is a well know ploy in Durham. They pull this shit every four years to get a Judge to force the county to keep open the polls so they can go out and try to grab the brothers who have not voted.

EVERY election they do this when they are down. It is a good sign. When Helms beat Gantt, a black guy, they got a federal judge to keep the polls open for three hours after closing. Helms found another judge to overrule him.

Wild West!
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (NbJXF)

And this is phase 1 in the margin of cheating.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (8hICw)

448 RE: "The GOP, particularly its venal, inbred, incompetent Mandarin class,
is in bed with the liberal welfare state, sometimes quite literally.
They are heartless, and not in the way their pretend-opponents liberals
usually mean it; I mean they have no guts, no grit, no fight, no
defiance."

I don't think that's their primary deficit. I think the GOP leadership simply doesn't want individual liberty, limited government, free markets, private property rights, or adherence to the Constitution. They value and cherish their opposites. They will fight and have "guts and grit" for the **opposite values** -- the collective, expanded government, central planning "markets," State ownership of property, and of course, subversion of the Constitution.

One thing I'm pleased with is that I think that more and more conservatives now recognize this.

I've never agreed with Rush, for instance, that the Republican leadership were too scared or bullied by the left. That's how he's always defended them -- that they were beaten down by the media and the shrill lefty harpies who bullied them and made them feel bad. That they were somehow experiencing Stockholm Syndrome.

No, back in the last two years of GWBs term I realized that the reason why they don't defend individual liberty or limited government or any other conservative values is that they simply don't believe in those things.

I listened to both McCain and Romney stutter around when asked significant questions concerning those values, and I continued to recognize that the reasons why their answers were so much vacuous, strung-together boilerplate phrases is because they didn't believe like I did.

So it stands to reason they're not going to defend them, or show any grit or guts or fight for things they don't care about anyway.

Posted by: Igor at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (gM0Lz)

449 Posted by: Jean at November 08, 2016 03:49 PM (2RVmA)

He didn't do it right away but he did do it.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM (kaCWe)

450 Hillary effd up the ME when SoS.

A Pres. Hills will enflame the world.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM (Sqtxg)

451 I do think the precinct captains and secretaries of state are staring at the results so far and going "holy crap, how badly are we gonna have to cheat?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM (39g3+)

452 - .... . / ..-. .- - . / --- ..-. / .- -- . .-. .. -.-. .- / -.. . .--. . -. -.. ... / ..- .--. --- -. / - --- -.. .- -.-- .----. ... / ...- --- - . ---... / .-.. . - / . ...- . .-. -.-- / .--. . .-. ... --- -. / -.. --- / - .... . .. .-. / ..- - -- --- ... - .-.-.-

Pace Admiral Toga.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM (u82oZ)

453 Ahhh.... Nevada early voting..... got it, thanks!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM (jjaLl)

454 Where is the exit poll data we were supposed to get starting at 8:00 AM?

Posted by: An Observation at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM (1WYLC)

455 No, back in the last two years of GWBs term I realized that the reason why they don't defend individual liberty or limited government or any other conservative values is that they simply don't believe in those things.

Its not so much that, as that they believe in globalism more. They believe in liberty, they just believe it is subordinate to a world government.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM (39g3+)

456 451
I do think the precinct captains and secretaries of state are staring at
the results so far and going "holy crap, how badly are we gonna have to
cheat?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM (39g3+)
I so badly hope so.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 03:56 PM (WuRdh)

457 A Pres. Hills will enflame the world.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM (Sqtxg)

Well we already have a flammer in the White House..

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 03:56 PM (493sH)

458
I agree that one of the weirdest things in this weirdest election ever has been the lack of presidential yard signs. I've seen like 1 each in a pretty damn big neighborhood. Nobody really wants to show support for either one.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 08, 2016 03:44 PM (ODxAs)

My dad put out a Trump sign a week ago. Garbage men threw nasty wet trash in his yard. Cleaned it up, put it back. Next day a school bus driver stopped the bus & was gonna steal it till my dad walked out of the garage. He's 80 years old FFS.

Posted by: Bernette at November 08, 2016 03:56 PM (JSys4)

459 440
"393 Herman Cain vs. Erick Erickson WSB Thunderdome 2017."

I going to give that crying pussy 9 punches to the jaw, 9 punches to
the belly and 9 kicks to the nuts. I call it my 9-9-9 plan.

Posted by: Herman Cain at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (OD2ni)
hahaha. okay, that is damn funny. Thanks for the laugh!

Posted by: IC at November 08, 2016 03:56 PM (a0IVu)

460 450 Hillary effd up the ME when SoS.

Eh, it's been pretty effd since the 7th century.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:56 PM (8hICw)

461 I'm just hoping there is soo much group think between the pundits and the polling wizards that they can't fathom a Trump win and thus skew their polls.

I want Trump will be the Godzilla of Black Swans.

Posted by: WisRich at November 08, 2016 03:56 PM (hdpay)

462 "Ace, take a trip to the way back machine when you could not stomach Trump during the primaries. You and about every conservative commentator. Those discussions were persuasive and I took them seriously. I have acted on the former conservative zeitgeist. Trump is still the person you said he was back then. You can't have it both ways; persuade me about the unacceptability of the man and then tell me he is our only hope. I remain convinced by your earlier arguments, but now I am a traitor to the Republic if I don't get right with Trump-Jesus? C'mon..."

A Effing Men

Posted by: LTCHAM at November 08, 2016 03:56 PM (7h4Fr)

463

After being repeatedly told "this is not who we are" I find myself agreeing with them

The GOP usnt who I am. Now thats not to say I've gone full Glenn Beck

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 03:57 PM (1TXSC)

464 "They understood the word. Irish bravery was not the bravery of the lion but the bravery of the donkey...You held your ground. That was what was scary about even the smallest and most insignificant of the breed. Once they took a position, they were ready to fight. To deal with them you had to be willing to fight also, and not that many people on this poor globe were willing to fight..." Bonfire of the vanities.

You are all a bunch of weenies. HOLD your GROUND.

Posted by: havildar-major at November 08, 2016 03:57 PM (jpW6t)

465 Wasn't it Allen dedicated 10ther?

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 08, 2016 03:44 PM (Q5Ymk)
Right.Guess he went hermit or something.

Been busy at work. I see him on Old Sailors Poet's Fb page occasionally.

Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 03:57 PM (2w7OO)

466 I have not watched or paid any attention to election news since the end of the Texas primary, (Cruz). I have followed the leaked document stories so I have a clue on the national election, (I thought Billy Bush was related to GWB till just the other day), but I have not subjected myself to to any of of the crap y'all are describing......and it has been nice.

My thoughts are that the Progressive Project has been decades in the making. Fundamental transformation was achieved 1/20/2009. The Tea Party was the last attempt at a constitutionally prescribed correction. The venality I am witnessing through the leak stories is human nature but it is pervasive throughout the federal gov't. and indicative the constraints defined by the constitution are gone. I voted straight ticket, R, and my plan is to support small gov't types but I believe the Republic is already lost.

Posted by: Jimmy'sAttackRabbit at November 08, 2016 03:57 PM (tXayG)

467 You know Paul Ryan is all aboard the Trump Train, right? Why is everyone acting like the ESTABLISHMENT (tm) hasn't been shilling for Trump since May?
Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (9qDRl)

-------

Stop shitting us. Damn Jill Stein was more proTrump and anti-Hillary than Ryan.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at November 08, 2016 03:57 PM (Sqtxg)

468 I was just perusing the archives from Nov. 2012. One thread was about Michael Barone's prediction of 315 EV for Romney. Fck. I wish Romney had won and we were not fretting about his re-election, but maybe voting Trump for his first term is better.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2016 03:57 PM (a+WIL)

469 You know Paul Ryan is all aboard the Trump Train, right?
Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (9qDRl)
----------------------------
I thought Ryan was left standing on the wrong platform as the train pulled away from the station.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 08, 2016 03:57 PM (NUqwG)

470 "IF Hillary wins..."

"Breaking: Watch Michigan, " Luntz tweeted. Key working class turnout looking much higher than expected."

IF.

Hillary may want to consider cancelling the fireworks.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (kfcYC)

471 "I couldn't bring myself to vote for Rob Portman today, but I couldn't vote for Strickland, who is an incompetent idiot. I was going to skip that part, but there was also a green party candidate on the ballot, and two independents. I made a guess and voted for one of the independents. If I thought Strickland had a chance, I would have voted for Portman, but I felt safe in sending a message in this case."

Same here. Portman was one of those who jumped on the "I can no longer support Trump" bandwagon when the infamous pussy-grabbing tape broke. That whole incident was clearly planned by the GOPe, thinking they'd boot Trump and replace him with Pence. So to hell with Portman. I voted for one of the "other" candidates. Can't even remember his name.

Posted by: tsj017 at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (4YUWF)

472 Past tense? The polls are already closed in Nevada?
Posted by: Dirty Randy at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM
*****
Sorry for my rushed and poorly worded post. The lawsuit is addressing early voting locations that stayed open late to keep collecting ballots. The decision to extend hours seems to have been made arbitrarily without approval of the sec of state's office or a court order.

Posted by: L, Elle at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (6IPEM)

473 Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:53 PM (NbJXF)

Sounds like cousin Pookie's Obamaphone didn't have an alarm feature. Ain't that a bitch?

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (S2VsH)

474 The GOPers like it up there in their ivory tower. They'll do anything they have to do to stay, including to accede to the whims of their enemy progressive Democrats.

The sad story is conservativeism as we know it is dying. The millennials that will take over the reins of government would happily vote for a socialist by a 47% margin. 50% of those in H.S. would do the same. The libs have been successful in filling our education system with people of their ilk who will fill tiny heads with their mush.

If only Reagan had a Republican congress to work with the inevitable could have been postponed.

Posted by: Hank at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (m9v+s)

475 The new attitudes makes it all worth it...

I thought Rudy Gulliani was going to punch Katie Kur on MSNBC a little while ago.

No one would have blamed him.

Posted by: jwest at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (Zs4uk)

476 You know Paul Ryan is all aboard the Trump Train, right? Why is everyone acting like the ESTABLISHMENT (tm) hasn't been shilling for Trump since May? Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (9qDRl)

*****************

Crack is one helluva drug bro.

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (G8TO0)

477 I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duty.

Posted by: John F. Kerry, who happened to serve in Vietnam at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (4AVeu)

478 #470 she already cancelled the fireworks

Posted by: Big D at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (SPmlI)

479 380 One of the scenarios you can game out for 2020 is That Horrid Woman proposing Amnesty and Rubio positioning himself as its biggest opponent. How would that play with the horde?
Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (O7MnT)

It would be seen like it was seen in the primaries this time. Like Triceratops droppings from Jurassic Park. A big pile of shit.

Posted by: buzzion at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (z/Ubi)

480 America will be trashed. It will be over.
..........

FundaMENTAL change, baby.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro - AA,BFD at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (HgMAr)

481 Hillary may want to consider cancelling the fireworks.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (kfcYC)

Thought she already did?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (8hICw)

482 454
Where is the exit poll data we were supposed to get starting at 8:00 AM?

Posted by: An Observation at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM (1WYLC)

Good question! Heard Rush speculate it's being withheld because it is not good news for that shit stain with the D by its name.....Maybe good news for us?

Posted by: Dirty Randy at November 08, 2016 03:59 PM (jjaLl)

483 >>Hillary may want to consider cancelling the fireworks.

She already has. Yesterday.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 03:59 PM (/tuJf)

484 >>>Let me disgress for a moment into this whole keeping of lists. As someone who is fond of her grudges, no, it's true!, I comprehend the desire for it. I also comprehend that it is not a particularly positive or wholesome life trait which should be emulated by others.

I cannot help but note that those who are keen to say there will be an accounting of those who supported Trump are not best pleased when the reciprocal is applied to them. If it is acceptable to claim there will be an accounting for one position, then it is acceptable for there to be an accounting for the other. Needless to say, human nature is rather fond of rules for me but not for thee.

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

YES!

I enjoy posting best when I forget what everyone said in earlier threads. Life's too short to carry grudges. Someone once said "all that hate's gonna burn you up", and he was right, even if he did get tackled by Charlie Sheen.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 08, 2016 03:59 PM (xhKov)

485 Ladies and gentlemen, I have eleven documented ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary War, including two in the Green Mountain Boys and another who was an infantry captain in the Virginia Line.

My own military career was interesting and gunfire filled enough to check some career blocks there as well. If you think I will not find a way to participate on the side of the good guys in whatever upcoming festivities may come from this, you are out of your minds.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 08, 2016 03:59 PM (X9gO8)

486 470, "Breaking: Watch Michigan, " Luntz tweeted. Key working class turnout looking much higher than expected."

IF.

Hillary may want to consider cancelling the fireworks.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (kfcYC)
How do they know who are the working class voters? Is ny the district they live and vote in, or are they wearing overalls and bringing their tools when they go vote or what?

Posted by: IC at November 08, 2016 03:59 PM (a0IVu)

487 Ace sure does spend a lot of time hyperventilating over the small contingent of #nevertrump types.

#Nevertrump isn't the reason Trump will lose. Donald Trump is the reason Donald Trump will lose. He's done approximately nothing to convince skeptical Republicans that he'd be even marginally acceptable. He didn't even try.

You may continue with your regularly scheduled hysteria over some non-influential Twitter comments and WSJ articles now.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 08, 2016 03:59 PM (Wy3Iy)

488 470 "IF Hillary wins..."

"Breaking: Watch Michigan, " Luntz tweeted. Key working class turnout looking much higher than expected. Would be good news for Trump.

IF.

Hillary may want to consider cancelling the fireworks.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 04:00 PM (kfcYC)

489 414
that was cool.

Posted by: rusty shacklefjord at November 08, 2016 04:00 PM (v8mM1)

490 it's $33/hr (tax-free!)

This is why we need stiffer, ah, penalties!

Posted by: Hillary! at November 08, 2016 04:00 PM (DMUuz)

491 442 I do not comprehend this equation of personhood with political affiliation. It's freaking politics, that's it. It's not moral worth. Morality informs politics but they are not, and should not be, interchangeable.

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM (mf5HN)

Exactly. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Or by today's bastardized version, a rose by any other name is still a rose.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 04:00 PM (kaCWe)

492
You know Paul Ryan is all aboard the Trump Train, right? Why is everyone acting like the ESTABLISHMENT (tm) hasn't been shilling for Trump since May?
Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (9qDRl)

All aboard?
I've gotten two different robo-calls from Ryan in the last 2 weeks. Trumps name was not mentioned once. Not once.

Same with the robocall from Gov. Walker. No mention of the man at the top of the ticket, only get out there and vote.

If that is your idea of "all aboard", I never want you at my 6.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 08, 2016 04:00 PM (kKHcp)

493 I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for duty.

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If you need w country betrayed, think Kerry!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 04:00 PM (zMjbQ)

494 IMHO, NeverTrump is the cowards position.

If Hillary wins, they say "I didn't support her."

If Trump wins, they say "I didn't support him."

No matter what happens, they are not culpable. They can just shrug and Play The Victim. Forever.

Personally, I blame the self esteem movement.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 08, 2016 04:00 PM (hqqM5)

495 How do they know who are the working class voters? Is ny the district they live and vote in, or are they wearing overalls and bringing their tools when they go vote or what?
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2016 03:59 PM (a0IVu)
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Tattoos!

Posted by: RioBravo at November 08, 2016 04:00 PM (NUqwG)

496
Glenn Beck Facebook

I just voted. Strong down ticket in my district. Great choices for state and federal houses. Libertarians when in doubt.

For those who care, I voted for a guy I think has real character, who will stand for religious liberty and the Reagan test of 70% agreement. Evan McMullin.

My vote is a pact between me and my God. His scriptures tell me...

Yada yada. I know God loves me more because he told me so ect.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (kdS6q)

497 486 470, "Breaking: Watch Michigan, " Luntz tweeted. Key working class turnout looking much higher than expected."

IF.

Hillary may want to consider cancelling the fireworks.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (kfcYC)
How do they know who are the working class voters? Is ny the district they live and vote in, or are they wearing overalls and bringing their tools when they go vote or what?
Posted by: IC

Ask Luntz, it's his tweet and his profession.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (kfcYC)

498 But that is exactly what Ace did, but yet you criticize him for that? Sport
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:19 PM (dELE3)

I am not trashing Ace, nor will I. You trashed me and I responded accordingly, spurt. But at the end of the day I will respect your opinion on the matter, and I will not question your judgment or motivations. But I have the feeling that it will not be returned by you and others of your ilk.

Let me tell ya' something. I was estranged from my daughter for over a year because of her bullshit leftist politics. I have stood up in the midst of my peers (legal profession) to fight oppressive leftism. I have lost valuable monetary compensation because of those things. I am an effing conservative. I have sacrificed to the cause, and have been less than content to merely drop leaflets over enemy territory,

I have voted straight GOP ticket since the first time I voted in 1978. I think my bona fides give me the right to the judgment I have made about Trump.

Donald Trump will break your heart, and his authoritarian bent will even further weaken conservatism. I know and have worked with guys like him. He is not a "man we can work with."

I hope you are right. I fear and am convinced that you are not.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (uCrjJ)

499 Trump needs like 80% of the people voting after work. The odds for Trump are looking pretty slim right now.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (QPfiT)

500 I thought Ryan was left standing on the wrong platform as the train pulled away from the station.

He ran after the train and caught the caboose just as it was pulling away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (39g3+)

501
Hillary may want to consider cancelling the fireworks.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (kfcYC)

I believe they have already been cancelled.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (lKyWE)

502 There is no hope against Hillary. There hasn't been since May. The fight now is to avoid tainting the party for the next decade. People like Ace saying they'll give up politics gives me some hope on that front, though I suspect this will be like the dozen-odd times he's quit twitter.

Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2016 03:17 PM (9qDRl)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Please explain to me how I'm misreading you here. Or are you really the big douche you appear to be ?

Posted by: deadrody at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (W15tP)

503 If Trump wins, I want him to walk onstage at the acceptance speech blaring Miley Cyrus' Wrecking Ball.

And then, when that coke-addled whoreson complains, say 'Fuck You, I'm President'.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (2PHKP)

504

Larger forces, world events, have a way of interceding

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (1TXSC)

505 He's done approximately nothing to convince skeptical Republicans that he'd be even marginally acceptable. He didn't even try.

************

Concern Status:

[ ] Not Noted
[ ] Noted
[ X ] Trump / Pence because FUCK YOU, WAR

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (G8TO0)

506 I hesitate to comment until Jay-Z, Lady Gaga and the sick braying mule weigh in.

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (HgMAr)

507 C'mon, lads 'n lassies! Buck up!

You're forgetting the OTHER significance of today, and that is that today is the day BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA OFFICIALLY AND IRREVOCABLY BECOMES A LAME DUCK PRESIDENT!

Whether it's Queen Hagatha the Halt, or Dreamsicle Hitler elected, Barky is old news.

The Washington DC bunch of lampreys know absolutely that it's time to latch onto a fresh body.

The press is going to beclown itself either by fawning over Nurse Rachet, or having hissy-fits at The Donald.

But Barry goes to the Old Legends Home.

Oh, sure, he can pull all kinds of skeevy trix before he officially becomes just another African-American evicted from his government housing by a cruel world.

But. He's. Toast.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (nd1zx)

508 I don't know about you guys, but I am working the AoS Decision Desk tonight.

I might even wear a toga while watching Rome burn.

Posted by: ALH at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (uLuPn)

509 Hillary may want to consider cancelling the fireworks.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (kfcYC)

Thought she already did?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (8hICw)

Heard she has some sort of contraption to simulate a "glass ceiling"..... it will symbolically explode if she wins? Ironically, it would also signify the actual detonation of our Republic....

Posted by: Dirty Randy at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (jjaLl)

510 Ace: "Well, they can have their party back."

I don't understand this point. In the primaries, we had Trump, Cruz and Carson, three people absolutely detested or derided by the GOP establishment, get 75% of the votes.

The establishment candidates - Jeb, Marco and Kasich - spent a fortune for bupkis.

The GOP voters clearly don't support the GOP establishment. (And the Never Trump pundits are merely the organs of the GOP establishment/Donor Class and while they have and I am sure will continue to get a steady paycheck from their patrons, they do not have the support of GOP voters.)

So instead of leaving the party, why not kick the globalists out?

The real problem is replacing the Donor Class with a new source of funding for candidates that appeal to GOP voters. I'm not saying that's easy, but having the voter base is a start.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at November 08, 2016 04:02 PM (hA1V+)

511 How do they know who are the working class voters?
Is ny the district they live and vote in, or are they wearing overalls
and bringing their tools when they go vote or what?

Posted by: IC at November 08, 2016 03:59 PM (a0IVu)

Census data. Almost every precinct is classified by polling outfits by their income/age/race

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 04:02 PM (NbJXF)

512 >> Yes, the fact they couldn't stop Trump proves that
>> they aren't just corrupt, but also inept. They're
>> irredeemable.

There's three factors here:

One is the Pavlovian tendency of some of our 'conservative' leadership to flee from any discussion of race and culture, whether it's illegals or urban crime or education or etc. The other side's quite happy to use those issues in the most vile manner imaginable (BLM anyone?) but the mere suggestion that there are issues that need to be discussed leave the David Frenches and the Neil Stevenses with the vapors.

The one place that many of these pundits want to discuss culture, of course, is abortion. Many of them still wish it were front-and-center in the discussion; they are utterly butthurt that other cultural issues have leapfrogged over it in electoral importance. Too many are absolutists: my guess is that a Trump presidency would entertain a late-term ban, and would certainly not have the DOJ litigating against state laws, but incrementalism doesn't satisfy the pundits' sense of morality.

Finally, you've got Romney as Bourbon, having learned nothing and forgotten nothing, and others who think like him. Perhaps it is honorable to avoid punching your opponent below the belt when he is blasting away at your groin with a jackhammer, but had he been a little more bloody-minded we'd have been rid of Obama four years ago. If Trump is rude, and crass, and all these things that the Nice Republicans can't abide, well, he didn't start it but as they say hopefully he can damn well end it.

Posted by: JEM at November 08, 2016 04:02 PM (TppKb)

513
Hillary may want to consider cancelling the fireworks.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn

Actually, she did. Reported yesterday.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2016 04:02 PM (kdS6q)

514 How do they know who are the working class voters? Is ny the district they live and vote in, or are they wearing overalls and bringing their tools when they go vote or what
---

It should be in regards to their district.

However, it's probably more like "Johnny didn't come to vote in a limousine or an Escalade, so he's working class."

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 08, 2016 04:02 PM (hqqM5)

515 Reverends in Gary, IN We Tell Them Who to Vote For
Project Veritas Action

https://tinyurl.com/o4vwga6

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 04:02 PM (y3aQB)

516 Hillary may want to consider cancelling the fireworks.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 03:58 PM (kfcYC)

I believe they have already been cancelled.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (lKyWE)
............

Will China give her a refund?

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2016 04:02 PM (HgMAr)

517 161 The chattering classes, including Ace, have overlooked a critical factor in this election. A Clinton victory still costs the GOP more than a Trump defeat. This isn't over yet - if Clinton wins and Republicans retain control of Congress, their only course of action if they want to maintain any semblance of political viability will be to stonewall all political and judicial appointment until the investigations are complete and legal issues are resolved. If they go along to get along like they have the last two years, I will never again cast a vote for a Republican in a federal election.
Posted by: Sirius the Canine Pundit at November 08, 2016 03:21 PM (LBO1U)
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Nice. Demonstrating the definition of insanity, I see.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Dude, when it's the tenth fucking time, how on earth are you still saying "No, don't cross THIS line" ?!!?!

This has been going on for nearly 2 decades.

Posted by: deadrody at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (W15tP)

518 If we're into dissident fatalist right-wing pessimism, The Bloody Shovel is a good blog to try out. Maybe that site and this one can share links. I think you have to wear pants there though. Or whatever they wore during the Ming Dynasty

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (QPfk5)

519 Ugh. Radio news just reported that Hillary's team chose the Javits Center in NYC as her base today becuase it is known as the "Crystal palace", has a lot of glass. To symbolize the glass ceiling that will be shattered should she win.

I felt kind of gross voting for Trump yesterday. Feel much better about it today and even better after hearing that. Did what I can to defeat the SheBeast.

Posted by: LizLem at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (hvf9s)

520 Some dickhead on Bloomberg news is predicting a huge spending spree by depressed republicans after Hillary wins that will help the economy. What in the actual fck? Some people really ought to have pain inflicted directly on their tiny brains until they stop talking.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (a+WIL)

521 Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (QPfiT)

Concern status:

[] - Noted
[] - Not noted
[X] - Fuck you, Trump/Pence 2016

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (KUaJL)

522 "Ace, take a trip to the way back machine when you could not stomach Trump during the primaries. You and about every conservative commentator. Those discussions were persuasive and I took them seriously. I have acted on the former conservative zeitgeist. Trump is still the person you said he was back then. You can't have it both ways; persuade me about the unacceptability of the man and then tell me he is our only hope. I remain convinced by your earlier arguments, but now I am a traitor to the Republic if I don't get right with Trump-Jesus? C'mon..."

A Effing Men
Posted by: LTCHAM at November 08, 2016 03:56 PM (7h4Fr)

You kind of left out the whole part where there were 17 or so nominees competing at the time. It wasn't the GOP versus Hillary.

Clueless, purposely distorting the facts.

whatever makes you feel good

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (qCMvj)

523 I don't know about you guys, but I am working the AoS Decision Desk tonight.

I might even wear a toga while watching Rome burn.

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Is there even an affiliation any more? Seems like the two groups are opposed at the moment.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (gmeXX)

524 The pantsuit brigade is out in full force today.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (QPfiT)

525 54, "The Southern Constellation"- I like that. And we don't even have to change the flag much.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 08, 2016 04:04 PM (X9gO8)

526 Shouldn't NBC News be breaking in any minute now to objectively project Hillary Clinton the winner . . .

. . . and effectively discourage Trump supporters from voting?

*vomit*

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 08, 2016 04:04 PM (4AVeu)

527 For those who care, I voted for a guy I think has real character, who will stand for religious liberty and the Reagan test of 70% agreement. Evan McMullin.

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More than just an egg and ham in a cheap biscuit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 04:04 PM (zMjbQ)

528 >>The pantsuit brigade is out in full force today.

Which color is yours?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 04:04 PM (/tuJf)

529 Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 08, 2016 04:00 PM (kfcYC) GutPBenson was talking with RNC officials & after pouring over data they "Are Bullish on some Blue States"

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 04:04 PM (y3aQB)

530 Trump needs 87.325% of the second shift lunch break vote.

Odds aren't looking good...

Posted by: Nnyw Llib at November 08, 2016 04:04 PM (n/0Nw)

531 Was at my somewhat rural polling precinct and saw three separate unattached people requesting - and receiving- provisional ballots. I've been voting in the same location for 24 years and never once saw anyone with a prov ballot. No ID require - simply use the last 4 digits of a social security number.

Media and leftist legislators have purposefully undermined our election process

Posted by: 13times at November 08, 2016 04:04 PM (WHVu+)

532 My sister in law in Harrison Township (Macomb County, Michigan) is saying that it's been busy all day at their precinct. She says it's pro-Trump people.

If Macomb goes Trump, Michigan is in the bag.

Posted by: jwest at November 08, 2016 04:04 PM (Zs4uk)

533

Javits Center is a dump run by the mob

Its perfect for her

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 04:05 PM (1TXSC)

534 Voting machine problems reported across metro Detroit.

Another state in play.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 08, 2016 03:46 PM (/D5Lf)

Have to see how many votes to manufacture.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at November 08, 2016 04:05 PM (J70i0)

535 I voted for the candidate who is not under active investigation by the FBI.

Posted by: ALH at November 08, 2016 04:05 PM (uLuPn)

536 If it is acceptable to claim there will be an
accounting for one position, then it is acceptable for there to be an
accounting for the other.
Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 03:51 PM

We're keeping our eight eyes on you.

Posted by: Arachnia, Queen of Spiders at November 08, 2016 04:05 PM (DMUuz)

537 This is something that the Left does. The personal is political and vice versa. It's dehumanizing. I am not my party affiliation. There is more to me than just politics.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 08, 2016 03:54 PM (KUaJL)

My loathing of the Marxian view that the personal is per se political is well known and long standing.

Look, as a sports fan, I get my team yay! But. But my team yay is also something you do for fun. It's not serious and the point of it is that it's not serious.

Porting my team yay over to politics is completely immature. No, I will not support a candidate merely because of the R after s/h/it's name. If that person doesn't earn my vote, then that person doesn't get it. Now, vote earning carries with it strategic considerations, such as keeping Felonia von Pantsuit from the Presidency. But I do not care if the Republicans keep the House and Senate merely so that Republicans have it. I care what is done with having that power. It's not my team yay it's what will be done with the power that I have granted to others to use.

Again, I do not believe any of this is difficult and I do not comprehend why it is controversial.

Oh. Wait. Because I am coming from a baseline assumption that I am the ruler, not the ruled. Sorry about that.

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 04:05 PM (mf5HN)

538 Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (QPfiT)

It's Bill Wynn! Bill's here! Gather around, everybody: Bill and his friends in the Chamber of Commerce will know just what to do!

Posted by: troyriser at November 08, 2016 04:05 PM (OGbEB)

539 My kids are millennials (19 and 21) they are not progressive by any stretch. There is hope.

Posted by: USNtakim at November 08, 2016 04:05 PM (hMqvx)

540 The pantsuit brigade is out in full force today.
==================

It's "Pantsuit Brigade", pal. Get it right or Hillary will stop your paycheck.

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 04:05 PM (JBggj)

541 "Trump needs like 80% of the people voting after work. The odds for Trump are looking pretty slim right now."

What?? Everyone I know- and we all work- voted for Trump before work.

Posted by: Dirty Randy at November 08, 2016 04:05 PM (jjaLl)

542 519 Ugh. Radio news just reported that Hillary's team chose the Javits Center in NYC as her base today becuase it is known as the "Crystal palace", has a lot of glass. To symbolize the glass ceiling that will be shattered should she win.
________________

She chose the crystal palace because she is on crystal meth.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (4AVeu)

543 I don't understand how anyone could still listen to Beck with his constant virtue signaling, morally preening bullshit. My God what an ass.

Posted by: #NeverHillary - #CrimeWithHer at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (G8TO0)

544 I just voted here in CA. For Trump, no on all initiatives except 3. The machine spit my ballot back out 8 times. Finally accepted it.
Fuck you, TRUMP!

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (HgMAr)

545 519 Ugh. Radio news just reported that Hillary's team chose the Javits Center in NYC as her base today becuase it is known as the "Crystal palace", has a lot of glass. To symbolize the glass ceiling that will be shattered should she win.

I felt kind of gross voting for Trump yesterday. Feel much better about it today and even better after hearing that. Did what I can to defeat the SheBeast.
Posted by: LizLem at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (hvf9s)

I'd ask: Hey, Obama was the first Black President. What did that do for the African American Population?

Nada: He was to busy with the Eco Zealots and welcoming illegal aliens to take AA jobs.

Posted by: WisRich at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (hdpay)

546 This place is gonna be better than /pol tonight.

Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (9qDRl)

547 Just curious; is the plan still for President Trump to destroy Ted Cruz for his disloyalty, or is he just going burn Cruz's face with an iron and make him a minion? While keeping Ben Sasse naked in a cage and feeding him dog food sandwiches?

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (O7MnT)

548 Let it burn.

And then? Let's get on with it.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (0xzXo)

549 whatever makes you feel good
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (qCMvj)

Sorry, ma'am. There is no feeling good about this election. Nothing. It's either a one lump or two lump shit sandwich.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (uCrjJ)

550 339--- If Amnesty Rubio were the nominee, would we all be voting for him? Or would we be #NeverRubios?
Posted by: BacktoGA at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (QUl0c)
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I would certainly be voting for him.
No question.

Hillary is a horribly corrupt, sociopathic, treasonous, grasping, paranoid, vicious, lying bitch.
I'm #Neverhillary.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (Nox3c)

551 I LOVE THE FEELING OF SILK AGAINST MY BODY

***************

I'm a fan of velvet myself.

Posted by: George Costanza at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (G8TO0)

552 I'm sorry I spoiled your Republican Party.

- Forrest Trump

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (zMjbQ)

553
Voting machine problems reported across metro Detroit.
Posted by: RWC

Detroit?

Stolen or just vandalized?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (kdS6q)

554 My loathing of the Marxian view that the personal is per se political is well known and long standing.

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While I agree with you, the growth of the government (and the federal government in particular) makes it difficult to separate politics from the personal.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (gmeXX)

555 499 Trump needs like 80% of the people voting after work. The odds for Trump are looking pretty slim right now.
Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (QPfiT)

Right on, Bill.

I'm very concerned myself. I did a self-directed poll in Florida and here's the concerning results:

Clinton - 99.44%
Trump - -67%
Egg McMuffin - 0.00000000001%

If this trend holds, Trump's going to have an early night tonight.

Posted by: Davy Venereal at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (nGsFZ)

556
Donald Trump will break your heart, and his authoritarian bent will even further weaken conservatism. I know and have worked with guys like him. He is not a "man we can work with."

I hope you are right. I fear and am convinced that you are not.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained

In other words, you are guessing and have no damn clue what Trump will do.

I voted for Trump and can honestly say I do not know what he'll do. I voted for him because I suspect he'll do more good than bad. But it's just a guess. Unlike you, I can be honest about it.

I also know what Hillary will do because of her horrific record. That clearly doesn't bother you for some idiotic reason.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (gH1Qb)

557 Beck can go piss up a rope... just sayin.

Posted by: The Deplorable Garbone at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (YSzRR)

558 Hillary will deliver her concession speech behind a table loaded with Albuquerque Blue Sky, like Tony Montana.

/please

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (QPfk5)

559 My guess is the counts will mostly go into tomorrow, so we won't be told tonight. If its a Hillary win, they'll announce it early.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (39g3+)

560 Trump needs 106.39% of all voters between the ages of 29-29.5 to win.

Just math.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 04:08 PM (2PHKP)

561 Trump needs 100,000% of the popular vote to win this election. It does not look good for him.

Posted by: Bill Wynne at November 08, 2016 04:08 PM (FyRdJ)

562 My sister in law in Harrison Township (Macomb County, Michigan) is saying that it's been busy all day at their precinct. She says it's pro-Trump people.

If Macomb goes Trump, Michigan is in the bag.
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I'm in Macomb County.

There are almost no campaign signs here.

That being said... I'd estimate Trump signs outnumber FAB signs about 3 to 1.

There was also a huge turnout at Trumps speech the other night, it was amazing. I suspect lots came from Oakland County (Republican stronghold), however I saw a lot of people walking through their subdivision to get to the event. That means local, blue collar people.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 08, 2016 04:08 PM (hqqM5)

563 >>503
If Trump wins, I want him to walk onstage at the acceptance speech blaring Miley Cyrus' Wrecking Ball. Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (2PHKP)

If Trump wins, I want him to walk onstage in Gene Simmons' KISS boots, with a fistful of dog-leashes and a nude, gimp-masked MSM chick attached to each one. Oh, and "Master Of Puppets" playing. And Zod in the front row, hammered. And a smoke machine. And the Apocalypse Now helicopter scene onscreen. And...

Megyn, smell the glove.

Posted by: General Zod at November 08, 2016 04:08 PM (Bdeb0)

564 Ugh. Radio news just reported that Hillary's team chose the Javits Center in NYC as her base today becuase it is known as the "Crystal palace", has a lot of glass. To symbolize the glass ceiling that will be shattered should she win.
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Actually has a glass ceiling. Arf arf arf

Posted by: RioBravo at November 08, 2016 04:08 PM (NUqwG)

565 "Crystal palace", has a lot of glass. To symbolize the glass ceiling that will be shattered

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Wasn't there something about glass palaces and not throwing stones?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (zMjbQ)

566 In other words, you are guessing and have no damn clue what Trump will do.

I don't think Donald Trump knows what he would do if elected, let alone any of us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (39g3+)

567 I LOVE THE FEELING OF SILK AGAINST MY BODY

***************

I'm a fan of velvet myself.

Posted by: George Costanza at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (G8TO0)
.......

I thought you were into latex.

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (HgMAr)

568 Wasn't there something about glass palaces and not throwing stones?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (zMjbQ)

Probably wasn't important.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (8hICw)

569 Ugh. Radio news just reported that Hillary's team chose the Javits Center in NYC as her base today becuase it is known as the "Crystal palace", has a lot of glass. To symbolize the glass ceiling that will be shattered should she win.
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Actually has a glass ceiling. Arf arf arf

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Would it be considered comedic irony or tragically ironic if the ceiling actually broke and fell on her?

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (gmeXX)

570 Ace is just a ray of sunshine today.

Posted by: Pollyanna at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (LQLeS)

571 I heard Mooch refer to Hillary as a passionate young woman.

I laughed. Thanks for that, Mooch.

Posted by: Hank at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (m9v+s)

572 564
My guess is the counts will mostly go into tomorrow, so we won't be told
tonight. If its a Hillary win, they'll announce it early.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (39g3+)
I'm expecting them to call it for her the moment the first voting station closes. Heck, they were already calling it for her yesterday - BOR was implying he think she is going to win and the GOP will hold the House and Senate.

Posted by: IC at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (a0IVu)

573 568
>>503

If Trump wins, I want him to walk onstage at the acceptance speech
blaring Miley Cyrus' Wrecking Ball. Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08,
2016 04:01 PM (2PHKP)

If Trump wins, I want him to walk onstage
in Gene Simmons' KISS boots, with a fistful of dog-leashes and a nude,
gimp-masked MSM chick attached to each one. Oh, and "Master Of Puppets"
playing. And Zod in the front row, hammered. And a smoke machine. And
the Apocalypse Now helicopter scene onscreen. And...

Megyn, smell the glove.

Posted by: General Zod at November 08, 2016 04:08 PM (Bdeb0)

You win. I love it. But can we agree on MotorHead's Ace of Spades as a backup song?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (2PHKP)

574 I am sick of "principled" never trump types, and I
am pleasantly surprised that wingey Mark Levin isn't busy calling him
snarky names, but is finally concentrating on the enemy.

Posted by: cn at November 08, 2016 03:35 PM (wczgi)

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Levin's been on board for awhile now.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 08, 2016 04:10 PM (tHwdc)

575 Hillary will deliver her concession speech behind a table loaded with Albuquerque Blue Sky, like Tony Montana.

I LOL'd.

"You wanna play rough? Okay. Say 'hello' to my little friend!"

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 08, 2016 04:10 PM (nd1zx)

576 The last few months have yielded some of your very best work ever, Ace. Thank you very much.

Posted by: Afroman at November 08, 2016 04:10 PM (WAObe)

577 Just curious; is the plan still for President Trump to destroy Ted Cruz for his disloyalty, or is he just going burn Cruz's face with an iron and make him a minion? While keeping Ben Sasse naked in a cage and feeding him dog food sandwiches?
Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (O7MnT)

I saw Shrillary wandering around in that last episode. She was one of those out in the pen.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2016 04:10 PM (qCMvj)

578 If Amnesty Rubio were the nominee, would we all be voting for him? Or would we be #NeverRubios?
Posted by: BacktoGA at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (QUl0c)

I would have in 2016. But I won't in 2020. Since principles are important enough to stop the worse candidate from getting in, the GOP can go suck a fuck.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 08, 2016 04:10 PM (KUaJL)

579 Trump needs like 80% of the people voting after work. The odds for Trump are looking pretty slim right now.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (QPfiT)

What if they go on their lunch time? Does that improve his odds? How about people who took a half day?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 04:10 PM (493sH)

580 Also Ace, if you want out from being "conservative" or the blogophere of that realm I understand. But please know you have an audience no matter what you do. You tell the truth as you see it minus the BS and with a dash of needed humor. That is harder and harder to find.

Whether it's starting up another blog, leaving this one as a monument to 12 years of awesome smart blogging, or just reinventing what this blog looks like and what you want to post on, plenty of us will be happy to be along for the ride.

For heavens sakes, before you hang up the towel think about doing a compilation book of the best of AoS!!! You are leaving income on the table not doing that. Even just an e-book, no press tour. OR if you do agree to pressers, you can pull a Danger Mouse or Daft Punk and wear an Ewok mask the whole time.

Posted by: LizLem at November 08, 2016 04:10 PM (hvf9s)

581 Well, off to vote and then catch a movie. Hope we burn the bitch down tonight......

Posted by: The Deplorable Garbone at November 08, 2016 04:11 PM (YSzRR)

582 https://tinyurl.com/pesmd2j

The Democracy Institute, a politically independent public policy research organization, published a poll on Monday showing Donald Trump leading Hillary Clinton by five points.

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 04:11 PM (y3aQB)

583 The Javit's Center is a shit Hole.

The jack asses who built it on the Hudson River have the only view out of it to the parking lots, dinners, and hookers on the other side?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 04:11 PM (dELE3)

584 Here in the Roanoke Valley of Virginia, the local rag is talking about what kind of turnout is at certain precincts.

The one Roanoke County precinct they are doing a story on has had bigly turnout. Back in 2012 it had somewhat of a light turnout compared to other precincts. The precinct went 2-1 for Mittens in 2012, and it is home to the way most conservative member of the Board of Supervisors.

In Roanoke City, the 3 precincts with the heaviest turnout so far? GOP leaning precincts, all about 50% than the lowest turnout precincts, the Dem leaning ones.

Cautiously optimistic.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at November 08, 2016 04:11 PM (1JnAL)

585 Today is the end or the beginning!

Posted by: Today is it! at November 08, 2016 04:11 PM (ACW3M)

586 Dearest Hordlings. Perhaps what I saw a few minutes ago as I crossed the Moon River coming home from the vet, is a Sign.

Two magnificent bald eagles were sitting side-by-side on a power pole that crosses the river.

They took my breath away.

Make of them appearing today of all days, what you will.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at November 08, 2016 04:11 PM (PY9jH)

587 - .... . / ..-. .- - . / --- ..-. / .- -- . .-. ..
-.-. .- / -.. . .--. . -. -.. ... / ..- .--. --- -. / - --- -.. .- -.--
.----. ... / ...- --- - . ---... / .-.. . - / . ...- . .-. -.-- / .--. .
.-. ... --- -. / -.. --- / - .... . .. .-. / ..- - -- --- ... - .-.-.-

Pace Admiral Toga.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 08, 2016 03:55 PM

- .... . / --- -. .-.. -.-- / . .- ... -.-- / -.. .- -.-- / .-- .- ... / -.-- . ... - . .-. -.. .- -.--

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2016 04:11 PM (DMUuz)

588 You know what glass shatters?

The copier glass when you sit on it butt-naked making copies.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at November 08, 2016 04:12 PM (4AVeu)

589 There won't be a Nelson Munz loud enough for my facebook "friends" when Trump pulls this off.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2016 04:12 PM (a+WIL)

590 Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (uCrjJ)

Trump worse or better than Hillary for the Country?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 04:12 PM (kaCWe)

591 591
Dearest Hordlings. Perhaps what I saw a few minutes ago as I crossed the Moon River coming home from the vet, is a Sign.

Two magnificent bald eagles were sitting side-by-side on a power pole that crosses the river.

They took my breath away.

Make of them appearing today of all days, what you will.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at November 08, 2016 04:11 PM (PY9jH)

I'll take it. My Alphabits this morning spelled out 'lying criminal'. I think that's a sign.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 04:12 PM (2PHKP)

592 "So today, I'm voting for Donald Trump, because he is the only one that has any chance of beating Hillary Clinton. A vote for anyone else--or a lack of voting--is a full acceptance of the destruction of America as we know it."

Yeah, nuclear war tends to do that.

Posted by: Jabari at November 08, 2016 04:12 PM (REoK5)

593 While I agree with you, the growth of the government (and the federal government in particular) makes it difficult to separate politics from the personal.
Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (gmeXX)

No, it does not. It does not require the acceptance of the premise. In point of fact, rather the opposite.

The growth of the Federal government makes it ever more incumbent to stand up and say, no, no, I am a human being, not some political bean to be counted. No, my life is not your experiment, and, no, I am not reduced to a few points of data on your chart.

Reject the premise. Because it must needs be rejected or you are accepting that you are not actually a human but are merely some type of shell of DNA to be pushed about by others. You accept that politics is all and will be all and you destroy your soul and very humanity itself.

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 04:12 PM (mf5HN)

594 Two magnificent bald eagles were sitting side-by-side on a power pole that crosses the river.

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Hillary is committed to protecting the eagles. The Donald will kill them all.

Posted by: Will Bynne at November 08, 2016 04:12 PM (NUqwG)

595 The Javit's Center is a shit Hole.

The jack asses who built it on the Hudson River have the only view out of it to the parking lots, dinners, and hookers on the other side?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 04:11 PM (dELE3)

Slick Willie: Why yes, I did pick this location. Why do you ask?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 04:12 PM (493sH)

596 >> You win. I love it. But can we agree on MotorHead's
>> Ace of Spades as a backup song?

Yeah, in the top three, but I'd prefer to see him riding a horse, cracking a whip to the Blazing Saddles theme.

Posted by: JEM at November 08, 2016 04:12 PM (TppKb)

597 Fair enough Ace. So now you can join the new political entity that splits away from GOP. Whatever it ends up being called.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at November 08, 2016 04:13 PM (1zARK)

598 What if they go on their lunch time? Does that improve his odds? How about people who took a half day?

No, no they have to vote after work or it doesn't count!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)

599 >>You win. I love it. But can we agree on MotorHead's Ace of Spades as a backup song? Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 04:09 PM (2PHKP)

Done and done. BTW, he's *only* in Gene Simmons KISS boots, and maybe a black Speedo. And bits of taco bowl on his chest. Other than that, sallow, pasty, hairless 70-year-old president-emperor fucking ubermensch ROOLER.

Look on your master, America, and consider your fate.

Posted by: General Zod at November 08, 2016 04:13 PM (Bdeb0)

600 If Trump wins, I want him to walk onstage in Gene Simmons' KISS boots, with a fistful of dog-leashes and a nude, gimp-masked MSM chick attached to each one. Oh, and "Master Of Puppets" playing. And Zod in the front row, hammered. And a smoke machine. And the Apocalypse Now helicopter scene onscreen. And...

Megyn, smell the glove.
Posted by: General Zod at November 08, 2016 04:08 PM
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I'm OK with that.

As a follow up, can we play "Hair of the Dog" and/or "Balls to the Walls?"

Also, there need to be flames. Lots and lots of balls of flames. Like Rob Zombie show.

/plus, all of that is going to cost some $$, so it will stimulate the economy for that sector!

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 08, 2016 04:13 PM (hqqM5)

601 It's all over. Exit polling shows Hillary receiving 102% of the lunch vote. No road open for Trump now.

Posted by: Will Bynne at November 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NUqwG)

602 HA has bagged the stupid beta site and gone back to their boring but readable site.

NY Slime STILL thinks FL polls close at 7:00 PM. NO mention of panhandle's closing at a later time.

WTF are these people that stupid?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NbJXF)

603 In all truthiness, I am really not a Trump person, not really. He makes a lot of promises that sound too perfect to be possible even if Congress was on board (As much as I would love to see the largely-leftist telcom monopolies like Comcast broken up, and his policies in a lot of places are too lefty for my liking. But for all his flaws, he really was the only candidate who stood even half a chance in this election cycle. For all the hand-wringing about "electability" from the Mandarins, they're on bad acid trips if they seriously believe that Jeb, Rubio, or (sad to say this, as he was the candidate I really wanted) Cruz had even a snowball's chance in hell, not with the media and identity politics. They forget that the people voting for Hillary were not about to vote for someone with the scarlet (R) following his name. The candidate needed to be someone who push back against the media rather than the traditional way of cozying up to it.

That has certainly showed in many traditional groups who have never voted for an (R) in their lives unabashedly waving around Trump/Pence signs. Many African Americans, LGBTs, blue-collar union workers are backing Trump. A lot of groups that the GOPe has been brushing off its base in order to lure in finally moved in under the tent. And no, it's not because Trump out-liberalled them, not when Clinton has been mashing every identitarian button there is; we've already noted in the past that it's impossible to out-left Democrats. So why are they crossing the isle to vote for Trump now?

What I believe it comes down to is something that ace had noticed years ago: the divide along the traditional Right/Left lines is dissolving in lieu of university-educated "elites" and less-educated "commoners". The Untermenschen from both sides of the Right/Left divide have gotten fed up with consistently being talked down to and shit on by our so-called "betters". And for those on the Right, no, it's not any better when it's a conservative doing the preaching/lecturing. For many blue-collar workers who are mocked nearly as viciously by the Right (lately in the hand-wringing over "muh white nationalism" when it comes to their protest of shipping jobs out of country or importing cheap labor) as they are by the Left, Trump has been the first candidate to at least acknowledge they exist. The Democrats have, like the GOPe, blown off their base to the point that the base has rebelled.

That's the part the "elites" don't seem to get. The big problem I see with #NeverTrump is that it's a form of virtue-signalling for conservatives. It's self-styled "elites" signalling the other members of their tribe.

Of course, there's a lot more to it than Elite versus Untermenschen, but after observing both sides, it sure seems an awful lot like a #Gamergate-style rebellion against authoritarians.

Posted by: Saber Alter at November 08, 2016 04:14 PM (YZ7Go)

604
Sometime next week after the hoopla dies down I'll stop by the registrar's office to switch my registration from R to Independent.

I have marched on Washington several times and visited the offices of our putative R allies in the House and Senate to express my opposition to destructive policies jammed down our throats by their "good friends across the aisle".

I have donated both time to R candidates or the party since '08 and $$$ (McCain, S. Brown, Rubio, Ryan, Ellmers, Romney and close to two dozen others). For all that I have been rewarded with betrayal, sellouts and pusillanimous clusterfuckery.

No more. Not one second. Not one dime. If you chose to abase yourself for the cause of an evil and venal harlot who called you her enemy to your face and wrote off a substantial portion of your countrymen as "deplorable", then go and never darken my door again.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at November 08, 2016 04:14 PM (BK3ZS)

605 I'm in Macomb County.

There are almost no campaign signs here.

That being said... I'd estimate Trump signs outnumber FAB signs about 3 to 1.

There was also a huge turnout at Trumps speech the other night, it was amazing. I suspect lots came from Oakland County (Republican stronghold), however I saw a lot of people walking through their subdivision to get to the event. That means local, blue collar people.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 08, 2016 04:08 PM (hqqM5)

The SIL is at a precinct between 16 Mile Rd. and South River, near Metro Beach. Lots of McMansions wedged in close to each other. Small business owners, professionals, etc.

For some reason, it appears Trump has the boat owner's vote.

Posted by: jwest at November 08, 2016 04:14 PM (Zs4uk)

606 >> Slick Willie: Why yes, I did pick this location. Why
>> do you ask?

Bill, come on. You've got to be a little more selective in your shopping. I can help you with that.

You wouldn't mind having yourself checked for STDs first, would you?

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at November 08, 2016 04:14 PM (TppKb)

607 Voting machine problems reported across metro Detroit.
Posted by: RWC
Detroit?

Stolen or just vandalized?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (kdS6q)

Ah, that sounds like the typical Democrat fake ploy to extend voting hours. Need to get the busses to as many areas as possible to bus in all the ineligible voters and that takes time. So...oh my those darned machines aren't working right, so we cannot disenfranchise anyone. Must have emergency order to keep the polls open until 2am when the bars close and we can bus them in.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 08, 2016 04:15 PM (oDUj/)

608 There'll Be Nothing Left "To Fix" by the #NeverTrump Wing in 2020

Maybe not, but I think it gives me a shot at this one chem chick...

Posted by: t-bird at November 08, 2016 04:15 PM (2z74n)

609 I heard Mooch refer to Hillary as a passionate young woman.

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She's 29.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 08, 2016 04:15 PM (zMjbQ)

610 Gotta be 'Don't Fear The Reaper' at The Trumpination.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 08, 2016 04:15 PM (nd1zx)

611 The two biggest problems are apparently tattoos and nudes. And really big ring things in ear lobes are in a close third place.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (NUqwG)

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Hear hear! We can carry on Tattoo Wars etc. Jay Guevara has incredible stamina (soon to be immortalized on Miley's Deplorable Cat's shaven belleh).

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 08, 2016 04:15 PM (tHwdc)

612 There won't be a Nelson Munz loud enough for my facebook "friends" when Trump pulls this off.

Gonna change my status to:

Your nose. My ass cheeks. Rub it.

Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 04:15 PM (2w7OO)

613 Trump could be the first President Elect to ever walk up to the podium, tell the crowd he has something for Hillary and her supporters, then fly to American Birds for 15 seconds while never breaking eye contact.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 08, 2016 04:15 PM (2PHKP)

614 Hannity: "The early exit poll data did not please the media."

Posted by: An Observation at November 08, 2016 04:16 PM (1WYLC)

615 Done and done. BTW, he's *only* in Gene Simmons KISS boots, and maybe a black Speedo. And bits of taco bowl on his chest. Other than that, sallow, pasty, hairless 70-year-old president-emperor fucking ubermensch ROOLER.

Look on your master, America, and consider your fate.
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hahahahaha.

yep. I chortled out loud to that one. Most excellent.

The black speedo has to be shiny black spandex and have TRUMP written in big gold capital letters on his ass.

/plus, after this happens, the USA will be happier, since it will cause lots and lots of libetards to fatally stroke out.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (hqqM5)

616 How delusional do you have to be to believe that Trump has any chance at all of winning?

Pssst: WWE isn't a real sport and there is no Santa Claus.

It'll be closer than I thought it would be, but I've had as tough time accepting that we've gone Full Idiocracy.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (Wy3Iy)

617 Did Hannity elaborate?

Posted by: Big D at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (SPmlI)

618 Mr. Tami and I just voted. Didn't take long (usually doesn't) BUT it was busy. Busier than I have ever seen it. They had way more tables and voting booth stands set up than I've ever seen also. They even redid the entry and exit to accommodate more voters.

It's paper ballot inserted into a scanner. I really would like a receipt showing how it registered my vote.

Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a deplorable at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (Enq6K)

619 Jus sayin, we gon be awhile gettin back to you wit our numbers.

Until we know what we need.

Posted by: Wayne County, Michigan at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (hA1V+)

620 My friends... hic... we have... hic... nothing to fe... hic...fear, with... hic... Hillar...hic... Clinton in the Whi... hic... House

Posted by: John Boehner at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (DpOmP)

621 .-- .. -. --- -. .-

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (xhKov)

622 Hillary declared legally drunk!

Posted by: Naked Albino on Couch at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (gwG9s)

623 Zod leaves now for home, to drink and watch and scheme. Go with Crom, humans.

Posted by: General Zod at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (Bdeb0)

624 You know, AlexTheChick: The politics has become personal.

Consider the poor wedding bakers. Their religious views are now supremely important--if you have the "wrong" views, you are destroyed by the state. Their politics, religion and business have all melded into their personal life. And not by their choice, either.

Posted by: Vanceone at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (IQzhs)

625 >>> "Trump needs like 80% of the people voting after work. The odds for Trump are looking pretty slim right now."

Today is an official Union holiday, so they can go vote with out "The Man" stopping them. How many of those tossed aside union workers are voting Trump today to MAGA?

Hopefully more than people think.

Posted by: LizLem at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (hvf9s)

626 It's paper ballot inserted into a scanner. I really would like a receipt showing how it registered my vote.
Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a deplorable at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (Enq6K)

Full concurrence.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 04:18 PM (8hICw)

627 As in Obama, Cankles is bad enough but what she will allow to get elected after her will be even worse. It took the Ussr about 75 years to crater. It's been 50 years since the Great society infected our land. 25 years more seems about right for this nation to crack up. Which might be a good thing. I might get to reside in Berkshirestan

Posted by: nsirchov at November 08, 2016 04:18 PM (ReHkX)

628 If Trump does pull this off, will Bill Wynn change his name to Bill Lose.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 08, 2016 04:18 PM (u0lmX)

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"We have met the enemy and they are ours; two ships, two brigs, one schooner and one sloop

Yours with great respect and esteem,

O. H. Perry"

-Oliver Hazard Perry's report to William Henry Harrison

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 04:18 PM (JBggj)

630 I changed precincts this year and was not at all happy to find that my new precinct uses the hackable Sequoia voting machines.

Not to worry, I'm sure all the election workers in Palm Beach ("corruption county"), Fl can be trusted.

Is there any effort being made to outlaw these machines?

Posted by: girldog at November 08, 2016 04:18 PM (zRsYY)

631 another African-American evicted from his government housing by a cruel world.

But. He's. Toast.

LOL

Posted by: DaveA at November 08, 2016 04:18 PM (8J/Te)

632 An article about the early voting hubub in Nevada, from a paper that endorsed Trump:

http://bit.ly/2fYgWaw

Posted by: The Nevada Hat at November 08, 2016 04:18 PM (vBeA5)

633 255 OK, for some good news. I have become the first person on my dad's side of the family to see a grandchild in 150 years
My son's wife gave birth to a little boy Sunday.
I tired to one day register him, but had no success.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 03:31 PM (NbJXF)
Congrats! Best Wishes to all.

Posted by: plum at November 08, 2016 04:18 PM (lnPaP)

634 While I agree with you, the growth of the government (and the federal government in particular) makes it difficult to separate politics from the personal.
Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 04:07 PM (gmeXX)

No, it does not. It does not require the acceptance of the premise. In point of fact, rather the opposite.

The growth of the Federal government makes it ever more incumbent to stand up and say, no, no, I am a human being, not some political bean to be counted. No, my life is not your experiment, and, no, I am not reduced to a few points of data on your chart.

Reject the premise. Because it must needs be rejected or you are accepting that you are not actually a human but are merely some type of shell of DNA to be pushed about by others. You accept that politics is all and will be all and you destroy your soul and very humanity itself.

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Again, I agree with your sentiment to some extent, but I am not completely sold. The "you will be made to care" line resonates. I mean my goodness, the federal government is now in the business of who can and can't use a boys restroom in school.

I'd like to go back to the world you propose. To some extent I think we can. This election may just be sort of an anomoly. When I see people disavow Iowahawk who is just a blogger they never knew but liked at least up to the point that they found out he was not going to vote for Trump, I think maybe we have moved a little too far in letting the politics become personal. Maybe we can chalk up to this election and election day, and perhaps things will swing back a little after the election is over.

But I don't know. If things advance the way people think they will, then I don't see it getting any better. At least not anytime soon.

FWIW - I personally do reject the premise. But I understand why it is difficult for others to do that.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 04:19 PM (gmeXX)

635 This whole glass ceiling bit pisses me off. Newsflash HRC: There are stay at home moms, women on the battlefield, women cleaning hotel rooms, and women sliding down stripper poles that have more integrity, morality, and love of family and country than you could ever imagine.

You will never represent me.

Posted by: Cheri at November 08, 2016 04:19 PM (oiNtH)

636 By Bernie/Stein friend here in NJ and his wife went for Trump this morning. They saw a glimmer of hope, and decided it better to drive the stake in Hillary's heart with Donald instead of a third party protest.

If only republicans could be so bold!

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at November 08, 2016 04:19 PM (Uy8SG)

637 Voted on way home, my township uses 3 lines A-F, G-R ans S-Z. Being Skip I wasonly there 10 minutes top in to out, people inthe G-R line were there 2 hours. In the primary at same time was in the 300's today in the 1,100's.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 08, 2016 04:19 PM (QxcpD)

638 Today is an official Union holiday, so they can go vote with out "The Man" stopping them. How many of those tossed aside union workers are voting Trump today to MAGA?

Hopefully more than people think.

Posted by: LizLem at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (hvf9s)

The most Trump signs I've seen were in heavily blue collar union neighborhoods.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 08, 2016 04:19 PM (u0lmX)

639 I am not one who wishes to see the world as it is not, but it seems to me that, from what I can gather around cyber-land, that the (D) party is not in a giddy mood as of mid-afternoon on election day.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at November 08, 2016 04:19 PM (gH1Qb)

640 If Amnesty Rubio were the nominee, would we all be voting for him? Or would we be #NeverRubios?
Posted by: BacktoGA at November 08, 2016 03:42 PM (QUl0c)

Oh, he will be.

Amnesty will be off the table in 2020.

Only thing holding him back.
Posted by: Going Galt? at November 08, 2016 03:45 PM (48QDY)

Well this is the thing-

If Hillary! wins, a lot of conservative stuff is swept off the table forever.

Partial birth abortion - everyday stuff.

Elimination of gun rights - done deal.

Freedom of speech - Nope.

Single payer socialized medicine - Yup.

Bending the cost curve by denying pesky retirees care - But of course.

Open borders - Sure thing, pally.

Pay to play corruption throughout the political system - you know that's happening.

The list goes on and on.

This is what the GOPe wants as Ace states above.

Once all that silly conservative stuff is tied off the table.

Then they can get down to the real issue of who controls the welfare state and gets the biggest scoop of gravy.

all friends, all handshakes, all meaningless deckchair shuffling forever.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2016 04:19 PM (0cMkb)

641 I like it when Alex does the speechifying. Often, when I do it, it ends in Fvck Yous and me trying to reach through the screen and choke somebody.

Which, curiously enough, does not work worth a damn.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 08, 2016 04:20 PM (RKJF2)

642 184 I just took a look at Althouse's blog something I have not done in many moons.

She didn't reveal how she voted but noted she saw a black man in a MAGA T shirt by the polls.

I am not sure Althouse needs to "reveal" the way she voted. I am pretty sure I KNOW which way she voted, she being a 2x Obama fool.

Posted by: Pax78 at November 08, 2016 04:20 PM (GgJeK)

643 Yada yada. I know God loves me more because he told me so ect.

When your god lives in your bathroom mirror he'll tell you things like that.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 08, 2016 04:20 PM (YEelc)

644
The one place that many of these pundits want to discuss culture, of course, is abortion. Many of them still wish it were front-and-center in the discussion; they are utterly butthurt that other cultural issues have leapfrogged over it in electoral importance. Too many are absolutists: my guess is that a Trump presidency would entertain a late-term ban, and would certainly not have the DOJ litigating against state laws, but incrementalism doesn't satisfy the pundits' sense of morality.

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They might be absolutists, but the history of the pro-life movement in this country for the past two decades has been about incrementalism. How many GOP Presidents have conducted a full-scale attempt using all their prestige to overturn Roe? How many court cases arguing to overturn it have gotten up the Court? What activists have done is the hard work of electing representatives who will make minor changes to the laws. That's where the laws requiring that practitioners have admitting privileges at their local hospital come from- because it seems to make sense that the same medical professional should follow through with care. Also the laws about cleanliness and facility dimensions and the waiting period- all incremental laws that don't make abortion impossible, but they do make it less likely.

When I read stuff like this about there being too many absolutists I get the impression that the real argument being presented is to shed pro-lifers from the coalition entirely. It always makes me wonder why the belief in some restrictions, which is shared by a majority of the electorate, should be given up while the party keeps arguing against expanding government benefits, which is quite popular. If the party is going to be pro-choice, it ought to also be pro-handouts, because that's going to endear it to a lot more people.

Posted by: El Skippito Friskito at November 08, 2016 04:20 PM (sPO/s)

645 When Trump wins his first act should be to chase the quislings out of the party. Start with Ryan.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at November 08, 2016 04:20 PM (PvCxa)

646 Posted by: General Zod at November 08, 2016 04:08 PM (Bdeb0)

He may be a white President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, but dammit, he's OUR President Camacho.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at November 08, 2016 04:20 PM (S2VsH)

647 When Trump wins tonight, in his Victory speech I hope he tells The Fab to hire a really good lawyer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 04:20 PM (dELE3)

648 638 It's paper ballot inserted into a scanner. I really would like a receipt showing how it registered my vote.
Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a deplorable at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (Enq6K)

Same thing for us today, sucks, how do we know any of our votes are really counted?

Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2016 04:21 PM (CktXf)

649 I am going to be optimistic - early signs looks good for Trump right?

Posted by: IC at November 08, 2016 04:21 PM (a0IVu)

650 "the traditional Right/Left lines is dissolving in lieu of university-educated "elites" and less-educated "commoners"."

That's part of it, but not all Trump supporters are non-college. I've suggested that whether or not you're in The Borg defines the divide. People in The Borg tend to be at the upper and lower ends of the income scale.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 08, 2016 04:21 PM (SIY7D)

651 It's after 3:00pm EST and there hasn't been any leaks on the exit polls.

That's odd.

Posted by: jwest at November 08, 2016 04:21 PM (Zs4uk)

652 >>When Trump wins his first act should be to chase the quislings out of the party. Start with Ryan.

Might be tough what with Pence endorsing him and all yesterday.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 04:22 PM (/tuJf)

653 Well, seeing the two bald eagles as I was coming home cheered me up a tad.

Also, seeing an old Tea Party friend dressed in red, white, and blue, standing at a busy intersection waving the flag and holding a Trump sign, surrounded by a sea of Trump signs, was heartwarming.

And, heh. Some Hillbot managed to finally put out three small Hillary! signs in the sea of Trump signs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Deplorable Redneck Queen at November 08, 2016 04:22 PM (PY9jH)

654 If Trump wins the first thing he should do is grab some pus*y. When you are President-elect, they will let you do anything.

Posted by: Charlie A. at November 08, 2016 04:22 PM (NUqwG)

655 663
It's after 3:00pm EST and there hasn't been any leaks on the exit polls.

That's odd.

Posted by: jwest at November 08, 2016 04:21 PM (Zs4uk)
Don't they wait till at least 6.00pm EST?

Posted by: IC at November 08, 2016 04:22 PM (a0IVu)

656 Might be tough what with Pence endorsing him and all yesterday.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 04:22 PM (/tuJf)

Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 04:22 PM (dELE3)

657 For some reason, it appears Trump has the boat owner's vote.
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Well, that is welcome news.

Michigan 1,000,337 boat owners.

Second only to Calli

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 08, 2016 04:22 PM (hqqM5)

658 I registered as an Independent about 6 months ago so long repubs... I'm not going to miss you. This breakup is not about ME it is about you...BUH bye... I Tea Partied and you did not listen. WE got two middle of the rad loosers and no opposition to obama. FU gop.

Posted by: USNtakim at November 08, 2016 04:23 PM (hMqvx)

659 NUTS !

Posted by: NeverCackle at November 08, 2016 04:23 PM (gs8be)

660 Just got back from voting. Timed it so I wouldn't run into a lot of people.

There was a hot chick in yoga pants that looked like they were sprayed on so I had that going for me.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 08, 2016 04:23 PM (4ErVI)

661

So

When does the Hillary Porn Parody come out

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 04:23 PM (1TXSC)

662 669
For some reason, it appears Trump has the boat owner's vote.
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Well, that is welcome news.

Michigan 1,000,337 boat owners.

Second only to Calli

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 08, 2016 04:22 PM (hqqM5)
Florida?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 04:23 PM (WuRdh)

663 I've had as tough time accepting that we've gone Full Idiocracy.

The Obama campaign started a rumor that Mitt Romney would outlaw tampons and millions of women voters believed it.

That's when I knew.

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 04:23 PM (O7MnT)

664 Sometime next week after the hoopla dies down I'll stop by the registrar's office to switch my registration from R to Independent.

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Go for it. I'm all for people changing their registrations away from R to I. That indeed does send a message to the GOP. I just wish we had nothing but closed primaries. But an argument for another day I guess.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 04:23 PM (gmeXX)

665 Did Hannity elaborate?

Can Hannity even spell "elaborate"?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 08, 2016 04:24 PM (Wy3Iy)

666 Don't they wait till at least 6.00pm EST?
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2016 04:22 PM (a0IVu)

For the official stuff, yes. For the hints, they normally start crowing early in the afternoon if they're winning.

Posted by: jwest at November 08, 2016 04:24 PM (Zs4uk)

667 Why am I not seeing anything at all positive for hillary on any msm site?

You know if they had anything at all positive to report they would be all over it, but they ain't saying a word, nothing. Plus they are not bashing Trump today.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 08, 2016 04:25 PM (iONHu)

668 Come on ace, come on cobs.

We need one more bit of mild verbosity to get Vince Foster's Corpse to fall off the front page.

Post, post, post.

Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at November 08, 2016 04:25 PM (TppKb)

669 Michigan 1,000,337 boat owners.

Second only to Calli

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If true, sort of a weird and fascinating fact. In fact, now I kind of want to know the top 10.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 04:25 PM (gmeXX)

670 The Obama campaign started a rumor that Mitt Romney would outlaw tampons and millions of women voters believed it.

That's when I knew.

I knew our fate the first time I accidentally changed the channel to Honey Boo Boo

Posted by: jsg at November 08, 2016 04:25 PM (gs8be)

671 Ha ha ha.

The NeverTrumptards are already whining and claiming victim status.

That certainly fits in the profile with their Democrat enabling.

Imagine that.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2016 04:25 PM (0cMkb)

672 HRC campaign internal polling. See "due to media messaging" in (4). SHE IS #TOAST

https://tinyurl.com/pa6btfr

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 04:25 PM (y3aQB)

673 My sister in law in Harrison Township (Macomb County, Michigan)

My sister lived there for years. She used to say she was the only liberal in the township.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:25 PM (WlGX+)

674 For some reason, it appears Trump has the boat owner's vote.

Power boat owner's vote, I suspect; around my marina the sail boat owners are mostly retired teachers and therefore lockstep Donk voters.

Although, there were a lot less Hitlery! stickers this year than Obama stickers.

And by that I mean some of these jazzbos STILL have the damn 2012 Obama stickers on their heaps.

Good gravy, cult member much?

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 08, 2016 04:26 PM (nd1zx)

675 661 I am going to be optimistic - early signs looks good for Trump right?

My understanding is that he won Punxsutawney Phil's vote up in Dixville Notch, NH. So, yeah.

Posted by: Roy at November 08, 2016 04:26 PM (VndSC)

676 #661 depending on how independents break in FL, it looks promising for Trump. There are actually R/D breakdown of voters to crunch numbers off of.

I take the lack of exit poll bragging in the media that Trump just might take this. Listening to Trump on Fox I think they feel good, but they are 1 state short with a bunch of options that can go either way.

Posted by: Big D at November 08, 2016 04:26 PM (SPmlI)

677 Is Drudge asleep right now? No update since like 9 cst.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2016 04:26 PM (a+WIL)

678 It's after 3:00pm EST and there hasn't been any leaks on the exit polls.

That's odd.

It is if you are winning.....

Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 04:26 PM (2w7OO)

679 Florida?
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 04:23 PM (WuRdh)

Floridians are too busy doing bath salts while naked and eating faces to properly maintain a boat.

Posted by: jwest at November 08, 2016 04:26 PM (Zs4uk)

680 So how many Hillary campaign bigshots wind up dead of unfortunate accidents and/or suicide if she somehow loses this?

Posted by: brak at November 08, 2016 04:27 PM (guIHw)

681 "When Trump wins his first act should be to chase the quislings out of the party. Start with Ryan."

Nothing to chase out. The handful of tender flowers will be holding hands tonight around the campfire, howling at the moon.

As far as having to ever to deal with them again. I think Forrest Gump kind of hit it on the nail. "Just one less thing to worry about".

Posted by: Drider at November 08, 2016 04:27 PM (6Xbsz)

682 >> It's after 3:00pm EST and there hasn't been any
>> leaks on the exit polls.

Either they're busily trying to hack the vote, or if things look beyond the margin of fraud you'd better start looking for media shits falling out of twentieth-story windows.

Posted by: JEM at November 08, 2016 04:27 PM (TppKb)

683 *flamethrows thread*

You know what you did.

That's the part the "elites" don't seem to get. The big problem I see with #NeverTrump is that it's a form of virtue-signalling for conservatives. It's self-styled "elites" signalling the other members of their tribe.

Of course, there's a lot more to it than Elite versus Untermenschen, but after observing both sides, it sure seems an awful lot like a #Gamergate-style rebellion against authoritarians.
Posted by: Saber Alter at November 08, 2016 04:14 PM (YZ7Go)

That is well put, particularly for noting that there is a lot more to it than that.

Obligatory but. But it is also much of that. Look, I have an educational background that should put me on at least the lower tier of elite status and I'm appalled by the ridiculous snobbery that many on the Right are showing about Teh Poors and whatnot.

Dear sweet merciful heavens, you managed to make words sound good on tests. Here, have this brownie, you panting lapdog and I say that as someone who is REALLY REALLY REALLY good at making words sound good on tests. I have some modest affinity for moving words about. Aren't I so very special for that mildly useful skill. There are those, however, who seem to buy their own bullshit that moving words about really is the pinnacle of human existence. Ummmmm. No.

Part of my take on the current state of things is that this is a polite version of insult me to my face one more time and your teeth are going down the back of your throat. Unfortunately, far too many of those who think they are Our Betters appear to have never lived in a world where such an event could occur. Reality is a harsh mistress.

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 04:27 PM (mf5HN)

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Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2016 04:27 PM (DMUuz)

685 I feel we have a really good chance. There was never a battle fought that was a sure thing. But fight they did!

Posted by: Today is it! at November 08, 2016 04:27 PM (ACW3M)

686 672 HRC campaign internal polling. See "due to media messaging" in (4). SHE IS #TOAST

https://tinyurl.com/pa6btfr

Damn. Notable that so many persons of color seem to have kept their Trump leanings close to the vest with the pollsters, as we had hoped.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:27 PM (WlGX+)

687 >> you'd better start looking for media shits falling out
>> of twentieth-story windows.

"We now cut away from Trump's acceptance speech to bring you the CNN Mass Suicide live from their studios in Atlanta..."

Posted by: JEM at November 08, 2016 04:28 PM (TppKb)

688 I'm definitely wondering what support for the GOP gets me personally, both parties are globalists who ship jobs overseas but the Dems offer free shit to keep me going whereas the GOPe like the NRO tell me "Die Already, Laid Off Losers".

What is this "strong national defense" getting us other than endless wars that are in reality armed security for global corporations while both sides eagerly invite jihadists inside the country and tell us that we have to get used to an "acceptable" level of murder

Tax cuts? Both sides offer that for those making under $100K per year.

Might start wondering if it might not be easier to invade the Dem primaries and force them to move to the center rather than stay with the GOP knowing they'll stab us in the back.

The GOP sells me out. If the Dems sell out for a bloc of votes, they would sell out to me.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 08, 2016 04:28 PM (Ya7zs)

689 I have seen nothing but Trump signs in my twp, heavy turnoutin afternoon can't be for the wicked witch.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 08, 2016 04:28 PM (QxcpD)

690 654
If Trump wins the first thing he should do is grab some pus*y. When you are President-elect, they will let you do anything.

Posted by: Charlie A. at November 08, 2016 04:22 PM (NUqwG)

Yeah, but pussy grabbing is not a federal offense, and he can only pardon himself for federal crimes.

I think he does have immunity when acting as president from state laws, so he could make an executive pussy grabbing order?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 04:28 PM (NbJXF)

691 Either they're busily trying to hack the vote, or if things look beyond
the margin of fraud you'd better start looking for media shits falling
out of twentieth-story windows.
===============

I'd be looking for the pollsters, first.

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2016 04:28 PM (JBggj)

692 >>> Well, seeing the two bald eagles as I was coming home cheered me up a tad.

I'm glad you got to see that, today of all days. I'm jealous! Hopefully it's a good omen.

I'm going to a concert tonight that I've been looking forward to for months. Will check my phone at intermission to see how the states are being called, otherwise will just sit back and enjoy the pretty sounds. So no matter what tonight, I will feel some happiness!

Posted by: LizLem at November 08, 2016 04:28 PM (hvf9s)

693 654
If Trump wins the first thing he should do is grab some pus*y. When you are President-elect, they will let you do anything.

Shake Obama's hand.

Posted by: Roy at November 08, 2016 04:29 PM (VndSC)

694 677 Is Drudge asleep right now? No update since like 9 cst.
Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2016 04:26 PM (a+WIL)

No updates to exit polling could be taken to mean that the exit polls look horrible for Hillary. They were planning on pushing these out as early as 8:00AM and so far the only one was "wants a strong leader." And that was one that could be said is a Trump indicator.

On another front, in Lebanon County, PA, voters who voted straight GOP/Trump saw their votes change in front of their eyes for Nurse Nasty.

That shit has got to be challenged if PA is lost by a red pube.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 04:29 PM (mbhDw)

695 "But I don't WANT to go out for a rowboat ride with John Podesta and Cheryl Mills!"

Posted by: Robbie Mook at November 08, 2016 04:29 PM (nd1zx)

696

Look i wish it werent so . He has to run the table

Dont get excited

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 04:29 PM (1TXSC)

697 >>Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer

Nah, if that was true Sun Tzu actually would have said that.

Pence knows if he wants to get anything done in Congress he is going to need allies. If Trump wins, the really hard part starts and that's actually doing some of the stuff Trump has promised.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2016 04:30 PM (/tuJf)

698 socalmike_SD
08/11/16 15:32
MSNBC reporting on the election machines in PA not allowing for Trump votes. Trump filing lawsuit to have those machines removed. 19 reports

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 04:30 PM (y3aQB)

699 But that's fine, given the alternatives. I know
where I stand with Trump. I know that he's not going to fuck with my
life out of a sense of do-gooderism. That's Hillary. I want her to leave
me the fuck alone. Trump will, because there's no money or glory in
pestering me. But Hillary... she's rewarded by her conscience every time
she fucks me.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (xN1DB)
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'Bloody' Mary had the same beliefs in 15th C England. Expect HRC to pull the same ugliness.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 08, 2016 04:30 PM (MIKMs)

700 Gee, Prudence almost makes it sound like the Happy Fun Camps won't be all that great.

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2016 04:30 PM (HgMAr)

701 696

Look i wish it werent so . He has to run the table

Dont get excited
Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 04:29 PM (1TXSC)

All 57 states? No. 270 EV's? Yes. And the day is not over yet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 04:30 PM (mbhDw)

702 62 Who ever you are...I've been told to fuck my self my better people than you. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2016 03:08 PM (dELE3)

Now thats the spirit NGU! lol.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob, 'Hobo, the other white meat' at November 08, 2016 04:30 PM (uz/Pv)

703 Drudge always slows to a crawl before any real results start coming in. Business as usual.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:31 PM (WlGX+)

704 Judging by their coverage the past year, CNN will just go black if election results are for Trump. They cut away from any negative news or statements about Hillary.

I'd like to believe no exit polling data means they've just realized that exit polls are crap.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:31 PM (39g3+)

705 ThunderB at November 08, 2016 04:29 PM (1TXSC)

WOULD YOU STFU !!!!!!!??

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 04:31 PM (y3aQB)

706 698 socalmike_SD
08/11/16 15:32
MSNBC reporting on the election machines in PA not allowing for Trump votes. Trump filing lawsuit to have those machines removed. 19 reports
Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 04:30 PM (y3aQB)

If Trump camp is filing suits this fast, that means he has a very good, on-the-ball team.

Good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 04:31 PM (mbhDw)

707 Long-time lurker, white college-educated woman here. Donald Trump, not Mrs. Clinton, got my vote this morning. We live near St. Louis, in Illinois. I have no idea which way this area will go. Some HC signs, but nothing like Obama in '08 or '12. Have seen a few Trump signs. The people at our polling place said the day had been steady so far, as of 9 am. Even if all of Illinois south of Crook County voted Trump, it likely wouldn't be enough to overcome the dead voters in Chicago, but at least I stuck my thumb in the Establishment's eye (including the not-GOP).
Ace, I hope you don't give up the fight - but I understand if you need to do something else. I love the afternoon news threads, Sunday morning book threads, the overnight threads, the morning art threads (though what was that monstrosity this morning!? A beta male if I ever saw one) the comment sections, and the treatise on Kaboom. After HotAir changed their comments, this blog became the only place I went to for political news. It's a gem. Just wanted to let you know. Thank you.

Posted by: iwuzhere at November 08, 2016 04:31 PM (GRNzr)

708 Trump filing lawsuit to have those machines removed. 19 reports

We need this man. He fights.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:31 PM (WlGX+)

709 The problem with all the NeverTrump arguing I see on twitter is that it's not usually the NRO guys or Ryan or Kristol who get into it with the lead Trump arguer here. It's guys like Burge and Hawkins and the HotAir gang and JeffB, all people once thought of as helpful or useful or smart or at least good to be on the same side as.

Posted by: Kurt Russell's Amazing Mustache from Bone Tomahawk at November 08, 2016 03:35 PM (sPO/s)

Agreed, it's not the top dogs with their secure places in the caste of the privileged elite, it's the throne sniffers at the lower tiers who are ass kissing social climbers who want their big invitation to join the Cool Kids Club.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 08, 2016 04:31 PM (Ya7zs)

710 I'm confident and have a 1964 Elmers ready to uncap.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (cOHS7)

Early thread-winner?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (CUYn5)

711 HRC campaign internal polling. See "due to media messaging" in (4). SHE IS #TOAST

https://tinyurl.com/pa6btfr
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Hang on, what's the sourcing on that?

Posted by: Methos at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (3Liv/)

712 Posted by: Nip Sip at November 08, 2016 04:14 PM (NbJXF)

It's intentional. They've done it since at least 2000. It's because they know the panhandle votes overwhelmingly conservative. So they always call the state early for the Democrat, to make voting in the panhandle seem "futile".

When they make the same "mistake" every election 5 in a row, it ain't a mistake.

Posted by: Deplorably Rusty Nail at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (S2VsH)

713 If skankles wins, I contribute $1.00 to her campaign debt, register as a donk and say a big FU to the GOPe who decided to sit home. I've already unsubscribed from every one of their email lists.

Only ones I'll back are full throated Trumpets, the peoples' choice is not to be spat at. Fuck you Paul Ryan, John Katshit, John McCain, Romney, Bushes..and all the rest of you bitches

Posted by: Cn at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (wczgi)

714 I am not sure Althouse needs to "reveal" the way she voted. I am pretty sure I KNOW which way she voted, she being a 2x Obama fool.

Posted by: Pax78 at November 08, 2016 04:20 PM (GgJeK)

A 1 time Obama fool. She voted for Romney in 2012.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (u0lmX)

715 Boy BFF's house in PA backs onto a nature preserve and there are bald eagles living there. They had seven in their back yard last weekend.

But I don't know. If things advance the way people think they will, then I don't see it getting any better. At least not anytime soon.

FWIW - I personally do reject the premise. But I understand why it is difficult for others to do that.
Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 04:19 PM (gmeXX)

I am being a bit disingenuous because I do comprehend that the acceptance of the premise is being shoved down people's throats. I do comprehend that. Really, I do. I just have a bone deep loathing of such dehumanization that I tend to be a wee bit, tiny bit, barely noticeable yelly about it.

Scogg Dog, you can tell I'm upset when I stop using the swears.

In wildly different news, has Fenelon been around today?

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (mf5HN)

716
I'm famous.

Sharyl Attkisson liked one of my tweets!

(It was a picture of my Murphy as a little puppy---but still!)

Posted by: IrishEi at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (eM2Uz)

717 Posted by: Methos at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (3Liv/) UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM the link?

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (y3aQB)

718 Bald eagles are getting kind of common around here. I spotted one sitting in a tree not far from Lincoln City, Oregon. They look epic, all eagles do. But they are not in any way rare any more. They have no natural predators and humans won't and cannot kill them by law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:33 PM (39g3+)

719 Our debased political class Is the male model resting ...with lube seeping into the cushions....

game over...

Posted by: Paladin at November 08, 2016 04:33 PM (LTquJ)

720 Trump filing lawsuit to have those machines removed. 19 reports

We need this man. He fights.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:31 PM (WlGX+)
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These lawsuits will destroy our democracy. Unprecedented.

Posted by: Will Bynne at November 08, 2016 04:33 PM (NUqwG)

721 >>>Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 04:25 PM (y3aQB)

HAHAHAHA stop can't breathe HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 08, 2016 04:33 PM (xhKov)

722 "So, just to lighten the mood around Hillie's HQ I told one of my good-old-boy jokes; 'Hey, let's not start sucking each other's dicks yet! Start with mine!'

"Boy, what a bunch of ugly looks I got from those old biddys."

"And I had to club Robbie Mook with a Atlas microphone stand!"

Posted by: Bill "Talking Herpe" Clinton at November 08, 2016 04:33 PM (nd1zx)

723 710 I'm confident and have a 1964 Elmers ready to uncap.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (cOHS7)

Early thread-winner?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (CUYn5)

I have a 2010 Renee Ellmers ready to cap (FIGURATIVELY).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 04:33 PM (mbhDw)

724 MSNBC reporting on the election machines in PA not allowing for Trump votes. Trump filing lawsuit to have those machines removed. 19 reports

Posted by: Evilpens at November 08, 2016 04:30 PM (y3aQB)

PA was locus for ballot shennanigans last cycle. Someone pointed this out but it's uncanny how 'ballot errors' always seem to break for Democrats.

Posted by: troyriser at November 08, 2016 04:33 PM (OGbEB)

725 Could someone please tell me what I think about all this?

Posted by: Thad Cochran at November 08, 2016 04:34 PM (DMUuz)

726 Hang on, what's the sourcing on that?
Posted by: Methos at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (3Liv/)

no sourcing, and it's ancient (from august).

Probably / definitely a fake.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 08, 2016 04:34 PM (cJrMO)

727 Did Hannity elaborate?

Said he expected to have some data he could release before his show ends today.

Posted by: An Observation at November 08, 2016 04:34 PM (1WYLC)

728 Leave ThunderB alone. Its good to be cautious and nervous, lest you fall into overconfidence and be crushed later on.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)

729 Diamond and Silk are working their asses off today.

I want this so much for those 2 funny, lovely and wonderful ladies. They have fought so hard.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:34 PM (WlGX+)

730 Ace, I luv ya' man...in a manly way, and I love it here...but couldn't you have waited till the results are in?

This could have been your lead tomorrow. Hopefully though you'll have pudding on your...face.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob, 'Bag your hobo before its illegal to hunt!' at November 08, 2016 04:34 PM (uz/Pv)

731 I'd like to believe no exit polling data means they've just realized that exit polls are crap.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:31 PM (39g3+)

I'd like to believe no exit polling data means Trump is winning.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 08, 2016 04:35 PM (u0lmX)

732 Not sure if this is accurate or not, but here is info from google analytics:

https://electionlandtrends.appspot.com/

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 08, 2016 04:35 PM (hqqM5)

733 Prager wassaying on way home the difference between most of us a9nd #Nevers is our outlook is very bleak for 4 to 8years of Hillary, #Nevers think life won't be much different than 8 years of Fredo.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 08, 2016 04:35 PM (QxcpD)

734 If Trump wins the first thing he should do is grab some pus*y.

You can be pretty sure Hillary will.

Human was pretty happy before the Parkinson's; but now... sheer ecstasy.

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 04:35 PM (O7MnT)

735 Why haven't we heard anything yet? Shouldn't we have by now? I remember Christine Mathews being all smiley bc of (erroneous) exit poll data showing Kerry with a comfortable win around this time of day.

Posted by: L, Elle at November 08, 2016 04:35 PM (6IPEM)

736 Nood.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 08, 2016 04:35 PM (h/y2h)

737 718 Bald eagles are getting kind of common around here. I spotted one sitting in a tree not far from Lincoln City, Oregon. They look epic, all eagles do. But they are not in any way rare any more. They have no natural predators and humans won't and cannot kill them by law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:33 PM (39g3+)

Yeah, they're fairly plentiful in the seacoast areas of NH and Maine. Cool looking birds.

They don't seem to bother anyone, and they're cool to watch, so I'm all for 'em.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 08, 2016 04:35 PM (cJrMO)

738 230 I didn't notice limbaugh was on that list either. Though I do think he supported a non-conservative (Trump) in the primary.

Posted by: ace at November 08, 2016 03:29 PM (8rNrN)

Didn't Limbaugh support Cruz?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 08, 2016 04:35 PM (ujg0T)

739 I'd like to believe no exit polling data means Trump is winning.

I suspect it either means he's winning or its so inconclusive they can't make anything out of it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (39g3+)

740 715, In wildly different news, has Fenelon been around today?

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (mf5HN)
Atc - she was around earlier but I recall her saying she was going to pray and fast today; and go offline.

Posted by: IC at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (a0IVu)

741
It never seems to be the other way around where the dems are the ones that a machine won't allow a vote. #notshocked

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (ODxAs)

742

Vote . For goodness sake vote. But i am not setting myself up for a massive let down like in 2012

Posted by: ThunderB at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (1TXSC)

743 *waves at iwuzhere*

We need to have another lurkers reveal thyself thread. AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE NICE TO THEM OKAY!

*glares at Horde*

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (mf5HN)

744 A few months ago I could have sworn that I saw a bald eagle gliding over my front lawn probably around 100 feet in the air, probably looking for a meal.

I did a double take to be sure, but it was gone.

I then learned there is a family of bald eagles nesting less than 5 miles from my house, so it could have very well been the mom or dad.

This is in Northern NJ, 30 miles outside NYC.

I would love to see it again.

Posted by: Iasonas at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (nryne)

745 Haven't voted yet. I hope those wymen voting with their vaginas wipe the damn pens and screen off when they finish.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (jsWA8)

746 You can't overdooooose onnnnnn mmmariiiiiiiijuannnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ma*&^%*#@%aaannnnnn..........

Posted by: Shawn from Colorado at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (4AVeu)

747 Posted by: L, Elle at November 08, 2016 04:35 PM (6IPEM)

Fingers crossed it's because of why I think it's because. If the exits are devastating for Hillz...

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (WlGX+)

748 710
I'm confident and have a 1964 Elmers ready to uncap.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 08, 2016 03:30 PM (cOHS7)

Early thread-winner?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (CUYn5)
Seconded.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (WuRdh)

749 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

hahahahahahah!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/welovetrump/status/796071683958439937

Posted by: Max Power at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (q177U)

750 In wildly different news, has Fenelon been around today?

Yes.

Posted by: An Observation at November 08, 2016 04:37 PM (1WYLC)

751 *Huma* was pretty happy before the Parkinson's; but now... sheer ecstasy.

Frackin' auto-cucumber.

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 04:37 PM (O7MnT)

752 #Nevers think life won't be much different than 8 years of Fredo.

Probably for most of them, it won't be. They haven't suffered a thing under Obama. Rich got richer. Elites stayed elite. They weren't affected by any decision he made, personally and directly.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:37 PM (39g3+)

753 Didn't Limbaugh support Cruz?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 08, 2016 04:35 PM (ujg0T)
No, Limbaugh talked about frontrunners strengths and weaknesses, Levin backed Cruz as his stepson works for the man in DC

Posted by: Cn at November 08, 2016 04:37 PM (wczgi)

754 743
We need to have another lurkers reveal thyself thread.
Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 04:36 PM (mf5HN)

I used to lurk, but then I lost my job and had lots o' free time.

Then I got another job, and went back to lurking.

I started posting again because of the election.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 04:37 PM (8hICw)

755 I spotted one sitting in a tree not far from Lincoln City.

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I saw a bald eagle about this time last year at teh intersection of I-70 and the 18th Street Expressway here in Kansas City. Not a rural seclude by any means.

Posted by: Sultan of Qatar at November 08, 2016 04:37 PM (8XRCm)

756 "625 Hannity: "The early exit poll data did not please the media."

Interesting. Hannity usually turns into an Eeyore during his radio show on election day to beg people to vote.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (OD2ni)

757 487 Ace sure does spend a lot of time hyperventilating over the small contingent of #nevertrump types.

#Nevertrump isn't the reason Trump will lose. Donald Trump is the reason Donald Trump will lose. He's done approximately nothing to convince skeptical Republicans that he'd be even marginally acceptable. He didn't even try.

You may continue with your regularly scheduled hysteria over some non-influential Twitter comments and WSJ articles now.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 08, 2016 03:59 PM (Wy3Iy)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What utter horseshit. Trump has done PLENTY to win people over to his side.

What you are actually referring to is the AVALANCHE of establishment opinion, hand wringing and media hyper-ventilating over Trump saying mean things. You are confusing the tsunami of hype for substance. No amount of Trump substance could stem that tide.

The sad thing is, it is on YOU dear voter for letting that media and establishment bullshit drown you. They only put out their propaganda. You have to let it sink in and believe it. Congrats, comrade.

Posted by: deadrody at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (W15tP)

758 Posted by: Sultan of Qatar at November 08, 2016 04:37 PM (8XRCm)

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Fuck.

This senility thing is starting to scare me.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (8XRCm)

759 >>> Diamond and Silk are working their asses off today. I want this so much for those 2 funny, lovely and wonderful ladies. They have fought so hard.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:34 PM (WlGX+)

I've really grown to love them too. I was sort of afraid they would turn into a joke for the left, be used to mock trump supporters, but they are awesome warriors and have been great this election cycle.

Any good links to them today you can share so I can see what they are up to?

Posted by: LizLem at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (hvf9s)

760 #218, I disagree. I have spent most of the last three decades doing war for a living, and there is a huge difference between the Feds trying to bully a small state or two and locking horns with Texas, itself a former nation with a full set of national infrastructure and strong international ties. Throw in the fact a Texan breakaway attempt would pull in lots of resources from other states (many Texan founding fathers had been Tennesseeans, and my Dallas friends tell me I live in East East Texas here north of Nashville), and it could get sporty real quick.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (X9gO8)

761 No matter who wins, I want Trump to sue the ass ofd of PA Dems for the fraud.

Posted by: @Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (Om16U)

762 When Trump wins his first act should be to chase the quislings out of the party. Start with Ryan.
Posted by: East Bay Jay at November 08, 2016 04:20 PM (PvCxa)

Mr.Ryan campaigned for Trump yesterday in Wisconsin.

"the traditional Right/Left lines is dissolving in lieu of university-educated "elites" and less-educated "commoners"."

That is BS put out by the elite left. I'm college educated as are most of my friends. I came from a very small town in which you either worked in mining, on a farm, or in the two industrial plants in town making widgets all day on a line. If none of those careers seemed to fit you, you HAD to go to college of some type. All of us busted our asses in the summer, at breaks and often during school to pay for school because our parents didn't have the money to pay for school. We drove pieces of crap, I was a senior in collegewhen my very elderly grandfather sold me his 20 year old sedan for $100, I learned how to put a pencil in the carbuerator choke to keep it open so it would start.

Mr.Jen did the same thing to get through school. We scratched and saved after school and marriage to buy our first house, we didn't have a new car for almost 20 years, rather we bought older, cheap used vehicles.

We were both grateful for our educations because it allowed us to start at the bottom and work our way up to being comfortable. But we still work like dogs at home and on the job and we know exactly what it means to work on an assembly line, to work construction, hospitality, etc. So this bullshit I hear from the left that dumbass hillbilly rubes are the only ones voting for Trump gets my blood boiling.

I can read research papers and understand statistics and Mr.Jen typically has blueprints and three computer screens with spreadsheets up during his workday. We know what it takes to run a business, to build a home, to remain employed and employ others, and what it takes to be a good neighbor. We also know exactly what these coddled kept elites are doing with their global leanings and never ending need for fame and material objects.
They loathe freedom for the masses because it makes their world less sure, because it's less powerful when they don't have the ability to control everyone.

Too bad, I'm taking my freedom back. It was NEVER their place to abscond it.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (oDUj/)

763 Thanks, IC!

I'm just going to leave this here, no reason.

http://bit.ly/2fQBAdr

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (mf5HN)

764 Lurkers de-lurking is great, but it doesn't mean I'm putting on pants.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (WlGX+)

765 751 *Huma* was pretty happy before the Parkinson's; but now... sheer ecstasy.

Frackin' auto-cucumber.
________________

Ohhh, my yes.

Posted by: Zombie Janet Reno at November 08, 2016 04:39 PM (4AVeu)

766 764 Lurkers de-lurking is great, but it doesn't mean I'm putting on pants.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (WlGX+)

What makes you think we're wearing pants?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 04:39 PM (8hICw)

767 Mr.Ryan campaigned for Trump yesterday in Wisconsin.

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Quislings arent stupid.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 08, 2016 04:39 PM (8XRCm)

768 Any good links to them today you can share so I can see what they are up to?

I just follow them on Facebook. All their vids are up over there. I know FB isn't popular around here but that's how I follow D & S.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:39 PM (WlGX+)

769 A lot of people supported Cruz until he blamed Trump for the Chicago riots.

Posted by: OCBill at November 08, 2016 04:40 PM (5PBuP)

770 >>> Diamond and Silk are working their asses off today. I want
this so much for those 2 funny, lovely and wonderful ladies. They have
fought so hard.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:34 PM (WlGX+)

Who are Diamond and Silk?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 04:40 PM (WuRdh)

771 Rush Limbaugh can't win during primary elections. He will not endorse anyone, which pisses off every candidates backers, and he won't condemn anyone. He talks up the strengths and triumphs of each, and analyzes it, which makes people think he's supporting them. The man stays deliberately away from directly endorsing any candidate until the nomination.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:40 PM (39g3+)

772 What makes you think we're wearing pants?

bingbingbing! That is the correct answer!

Your prize, a vintage box of Kaboom, is in the mail.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:41 PM (WlGX+)

773 Agreed, it's not the top dogs with their secure places in the caste of the privileged elite, it's the throne sniffers at the lower tiers who are ass kissing social climbers who want their big invitation to join the Cool Kids Club.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 08, 2016 04:31 PM (Ya7zs)

That's really the line? They're all opposing Trump not because of well thought-out objections on policy or fitness to lead or just an aversion to the man...but because they just want approval from the cool Libs?

I've been reading those guys for years...since before the current President, in many cases. That just doesn't track.

Posted by: Kurt Russell's Amazing Mustache from Bone Tomahawk at November 08, 2016 04:41 PM (sPO/s)

774 A turkey was close to becoming our national bird. If that would have happened wouldthat mean we would be having eagle for thanksgiving?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 04:41 PM (kaCWe)

775
No updates to exit polling could be taken to mean that the exit polls look horrible for Hillary. They were planning on pushing these out as early as 8:00AM and so far the only one was "wants a strong leader." And that was one that could be said is a Trump indicator.

votecastr.us is supposed to be giving real time vote info., and by that I mean they are pulling it out of their ass. I have no idea how valid it is. But as I type this, they have Clinton ahead in every swing state but Iowa.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at November 08, 2016 04:41 PM (gH1Qb)

776 No exit polling data being reported may just mean that the exit polls won't support the final outcome due to widespread fraud and hacking.

Sorry to be cynical

Posted by: girldog at November 08, 2016 04:41 PM (zRsYY)

777 Look i wish it werent so . He has to run the table
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I do not think that phrase means what you seem to think it means.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at November 08, 2016 04:42 PM (3Liv/)

778 Donald Trump will break your heart, and his authoritarian bent will even further weaken conservatism.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at November 08, 2016 04:01 PM (uCrjJ)
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So completely wrong. "Conservatism" in so much as it is currently embodied by either the media caricature of it, or the "Republican" brand that represents it cannot GET weaker. It is DEAD. Over. Kaput.

Whatever comes next, whatever conglomeration of voters that creates a politicial party that can ultimately win national office again, MAY be considered "conservatism", but it most assuredly will not be "Republican". And by that time, the meaning of the word "conservatism" may not matter and it may not be anything near what you think it is today.

Posted by: deadrody at November 08, 2016 04:42 PM (W15tP)

779 Your prize, a vintage box of Kaboom, is in the mail.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:41 PM (WlGX+)

What? no Platinum AoSHQ membership? Ampersands??

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 04:42 PM (8hICw)

780 A little mood music voicing my opinion should Hillary! win.

Blood Red Skies by Judas Priest.
youtube.com/watch?v=qtnW8w3e-7Q

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 08, 2016 04:43 PM (6n332)

781 If that would have happened would that mean we would be having eagle for thanksgiving?

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Why yes.... Ive had eagle. Tastes just like spotted owl.

**old lumberbuyers joke.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 08, 2016 04:43 PM (8XRCm)

782 711 HRC campaign internal polling. See "due to media messaging" in (4). SHE IS #TOAST

https://tinyurl.com/pa6btfr
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Hang on, what's the sourcing on that?
Posted by: Methos at November 08, 2016 04:32 PM (3Liv/)

It also looks like it's dated August 2016

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 08, 2016 04:43 PM (4ErVI)

783 Who are Diamond and Silk?

Two southern African-American women who've been stumping for Trump from the get-go. They became so popular, Trump started having them appear at his rallies whenever they could make it (they are in the Carolinas.)

They have held many Minorities for Trump and Women for Trump rallies, appeared on cable news shows stumpin' for Trump, making viral videos. They are wonderful.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 08, 2016 04:43 PM (WlGX+)

784 Aye, fight and you may die. Run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... our freedom!!!

Posted by: Browncoat formerly known as Mike at November 08, 2016 04:43 PM (o38N1)

785 I stand with AOSHQ.

This will be the password to get you back in the fight with the resistance.

Hey anybody got that clip from Casablanca where Victor Laslo welcomes Bogey back to the fight after slonging his wife?

It seams appropriate...

Posted by: Paladin at November 08, 2016 04:43 PM (LTquJ)

786 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 04:29 PM (mbhDw)

I read that Story, J.J. They saw the change before the ballot was cast. At least those in the story did and were able to get it corrected.

How many didn't notice the change is now the question.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 08, 2016 04:44 PM (d76uN)

787 Couple years back there was a bald eagle stealing sandwiches at Hampton Beach NH. I saw one in Beverly MA. They 're coming back for sure.

Posted by: plum at November 08, 2016 04:44 PM (lnPaP)

788 Meh. In 2008 I halfway resolved myself that there was "no going back". I'd hoped in 2012 that learning had occurred, but it simply confirmed the worst case.

Rs, Ds, media... they're all symptoms of the problem. The reality is that 52%+ (and climbing) of the country has zero interest in personal responsibility, freedom, and self determination. They WANT to be lied to. They want to believe that everything will be ok and all we need to do is make things "fair". They want to be taken care of from cradle to grave by "someone" and someone is not parents, who want to be "free" to pursue their "ideas" and maintain safe spaces for themselves that exempt them from outcomes, failures, or any responsibility whatsoever.

Will President Hillary be worse? Sure. She is possibly the worst person imaginable to occupy the White House. No good will come of it. Yet, in the end, she will just be another cog in a much larger, destructive wheel that has been turning for decades and is picking up steam.

There's no fixing any of this. That horse left the barn a long time ago and was chased onward by a majority of the country cracking whips and screaming for fairness and free stuff.

We have the country we voted for. Sadly, those of us who know better have to go along for the ride because people seem to think democracy makes more sense than the republic this was intended to be.

Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2016 04:44 PM (71OEY)

789 I disagree. I have spent most of the last three decades doing war for a living, and there is a huge difference between the Feds trying to bully a small state or two and locking horns with Texas, itself a former nation with a full set of national infrastructure and strong international ties. Throw in the fact a Texan breakaway attempt would pull in lots of resources from other states (many Texan founding fathers had been Tennesseeans, and my Dallas friends tell me I live in East East Texas here north of Nashville), and it could get sporty real quick.
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (X9gO

I've told my parents that if things get really bad I'm putting them and the doglet in the car and we are making a run for the Free Republic of Texas before Texas seals the borders.

I'm maybe .05% joking.

Posted by: alexthechick - but I have chocolate chip cookies so that's okay then at November 08, 2016 04:44 PM (mf5HN)

790 Go anywhere in Alaska and you'll see bald eagles lined up on dumpster walls like seagulls.

Posted by: Hank at November 08, 2016 04:44 PM (m9v+s)

791 Throw in the fact a Texan breakaway attempt would pull in lots of resources from other states (many Texan founding fathers had been Tennesseeans, and my Dallas friends tell me I live in East East Texas here north of Nashville), and it could get sporty real quick.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 08, 2016 04:38 PM (X9gO

These warrior of the wasteland fantasies get tiresome quick. If you're really a veteran, 'Colonel', then you must remember that oath you took. Advocating seccession and civil war runs counter to that oath, don't you think?

Posted by: troyriser at November 08, 2016 04:44 PM (OGbEB)

792 I didn't notice limbaugh was on that list either. Though I do think he supported a non-conservative (Trump) in the primary.

Rush doesn't explicitly endorse anyone during primary season, but he made it extremely clear that he wanted Cruz.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2016 04:45 PM (3J/LN)

793 The GOP voters clearly don't support the GOP establishment. (And the Never Trump pundits are merely the organs of the GOP establishment/Donor Class and while they have and I am sure will continue to get a steady paycheck from their patrons, they do not have the support of GOP voters.)

So instead of leaving the party, why not kick the globalists out?

The real problem is replacing the Donor Class with a new source of funding for candidates that appeal to GOP voters. I'm not saying that's easy, but having the voter base is a start.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at November 08, 2016 04:02 PM (hA1V+)

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Well, that's certainly an option, though I utterly fail to see a realistic way to wrest the party back from the millionaire / billionaire establishment. That's what Trump is / was supposed to be. And if he loses ? How does there exist a better way to retake control of the party than that ?

I don't see that as a feasible option.

Posted by: deadrody at November 08, 2016 04:45 PM (W15tP)

794 I'm a lurker. Post rarely. White lady with a master's degree (in the humanities no less!). Hubs is a physician. I was a college republican (starting in '04 - those were simple days).

We both voted for Trump. He was our last pick in the primary and we had to do some soul-searching because we still don't like him much...but we hate Hillary a thousand times more and staying home wasn't an option we could live with.

Love AoS. Have been reading for YEARS. It's a unique, wonderful community.

Posted by: JeepGirl at November 08, 2016 04:45 PM (H8aUM)

795 #775 The pollster who nailed every recent Iowa election had Trump +7 (and everyone associated with Clinton has written it off that state) so you can look at the votecastr results and adjust accordingly. If they are off that far in Iowa and the other states are close, it gives me hope.

Posted by: Big D at November 08, 2016 04:45 PM (SPmlI)

796 I just voted for Trump here in Massachusetts. Convinced my son to do the same. He usually writes in mass murderers names. There was an old lady trying to insert her ballot into the machine, took about 5 minutes before the old bat could get it right. I said to my son, this is why we are screwed, we have old ladies voting who are totally clueless. Ans I did wear red. Plus, there were a lot of people voting.

Posted by: perv at November 08, 2016 04:45 PM (Queum)

797 we are making a run for the Free Republic of Texas before Texas seals the borders.

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Im kinda hoping that if a Free Republic of Texas comes to pass..... it's borders range from the Gulf to Canada and from the Mississippi to the Rockies.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 08, 2016 04:46 PM (8XRCm)

798 I disagree. I have spent most of the last three decades doing war for a living, and there is a huge difference between the Feds trying to bully a small state or two and locking horns with Texas, itself a former nation with a full set of national infrastructure and strong international ties. Throw in the fact a Texan breakaway attempt would pull in lots of resources from other states (many Texan founding fathers had been Tennesseeans, and my Dallas friends tell me I live in East East Texas here north of Nashville), and it could get sporty real quick.

We have our own power grid. Beef. Hogs. Yard birds. Vegetables. Refining. Aerospace. Computers. Port.

Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 04:46 PM (2w7OO)

799 For what its worth, for the last four elections, Investor's Business Daily has been the closest pollster to the truth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:47 PM (39g3+)

800 We have our own power grid. Beef. Hogs. Yard birds. Vegetables. Refining. Aerospace. Computers. Port.
Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 04:46 PM (2w7OO)

But the most important question is, do you have scotch?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at November 08, 2016 04:47 PM (8hICw)

801 Posted by: JeepGirl at November 08, 2016 04:45 PM (H8aUM)

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WELCOME!!!!

***slides over***

And how YOU doin'........

Posted by: fixerupper at November 08, 2016 04:47 PM (8XRCm)

802 alexthechick - thanks! I love chocolate chip cookies, too.
As for whoever said they didn't want to put pants on because of lurkers outing themselves, there's no need to be formal. I just need to know if I need to spray Febreze before sitting on the couch.

Posted by: iwuzhere at November 08, 2016 04:48 PM (GRNzr)

803 Of any of the states that could survive as a solo nation after secession, New York, Texas, and California are the ones. That doesn't mean they could remotely succeed at leaving the union, but they have the international connections, industry, and power to survive on their own.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:48 PM (39g3+)

804 781 If that would have happened would that mean we would be having eagle for thanksgiving?

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Why yes.... Ive had eagle. Tastes just like spotted owl.

**old lumberbuyers joke.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 08, 2016 04:43 PM (8XRCm)

You really need to try the endangered species...before they're all gone.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob, 'Bag your hobo before its illegal to hunt!' at November 08, 2016 04:48 PM (uz/Pv)

805 802
>>>alexthechick - thanks! I love chocolate chip cookies, too.

As for whoever said they didn't want to put pants on because of
lurkers outing themselves, there's no need to be formal. I just need to
know if I need to spray Febreze before sitting on the couch.

Posted by: iwuzhere at November 08, 2016 04:48 PM (GRNzr)

If I learned anything from the art thread, we need to burn the couch.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 04:49 PM (WuRdh)

806 I just need to know if I need to spray Febreze before sitting on the couch.

Just picture me as the morning art thread.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:49 PM (39g3+)

807 #789, Alex, I am vouched in, find me and I'll get you in too. Bring the velociraptors. We'll need them.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 08, 2016 04:50 PM (X9gO8)

808
The pollster who nailed every recent Iowa election had Trump +7 (and everyone associated with Clinton has written it off that state) so you can look at the votecastr results and adjust accordingly. If they are off that far in Iowa and the other states are close, it gives me hope.

I can't put a lot of stock in Votecastr just yet. Just passing along what they're doing because as far as I know they're the only one showing tabulations now. And, like I said, those tabulations are pulled directly from Votecastr's lower sphincter.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at November 08, 2016 04:50 PM (gH1Qb)

809 We have our own power grid. Beef. Hogs. Yard birds. Vegetables. Refining. Aerospace. Computers. Port.
Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 04:46 PM (2w7OO)

But the most important question is, do you have scotch?

That's what the port is for. ;-)

Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 04:51 PM (2w7OO)

810 Voted for Trump. Not my first choice. Always found him to be obnoxious. I watched one episode of The Apprentice only because I was at someone else's home and being polite. Always wondered if the winner declared bankruptcy and screwed creditors. Thought his attacks on Cruz wife and father were beyond the pale. But here we are. I will be sad tomorrow no matter the result. No regrets.

But its not over until its over. Although I recognize the parasitic qualities of the Left and anticipate their burrowing into the process, I will be seeing what I can do to be a part of the Article V gang. For example, ever since Marbury v. Madison there needed to be a constitutional remedy to bullshit Sup. Ct. decisions. Term limits: only let the leeches suck so long. Sunset provisions on legislation: make Congress debate whether a program is working and vote on it or it goes away. Go back to State legislatures choosing US Senators. Even though a lot of them are dipshits, they are usually close enough for me to get my hands on their lapels.

In the States, I am going to try to find people willing to break up my State's electoral college votes by congressional district. Why should the Dems be able to claim all those West Coast electoral college votes. I am going to financially support charter and parochial schools and vote against public schools.

And my view of Trump has changed after the primaries. Yeah, he is a bullshitting salesman, but I think that last couple of weeks I've seen something different out of him and dare I say it because it seems inconceivable: sincerity.

I've been worked up about this for the last several days but oddly I am feeling serene. No matter what happens I know what I am going to do. I refuse to surrender.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at November 08, 2016 04:51 PM (hKi6n)

811 We have our own power grid. Beef. Hogs. Yard birds. Vegetables. Refining. Aerospace. Computers. Port.

Sounds like you need a crane engineer. brb

Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 08, 2016 04:51 PM (jsWA8)

812 We have our own power grid. Beef. Hogs. Yard birds.Vegetables. Refining. Aerospace. Computers. Port.

Posted by: rickb223 Je suis AoSHQ! at November 08, 2016 04:46 PM (2w7OO)

Man I loved their music. Can you get them to play For Your Love or Over Under Sideways Down?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2016 04:51 PM (493sH)

813 OK, I've been out. What did I miss?

Besides the griping.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 08, 2016 04:52 PM (3myMJ)

814 791-Hungry?

Posted by: nip at November 08, 2016 04:53 PM (L5nkE)

815 813
OK, I've been out. What did I miss?

Besides the griping.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 08, 2016 04:52 PM (3myMJ)
Somewhere along the way I think we all got naked.But again, that may have just been the art thread.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08, 2016 04:53 PM (WuRdh)

816 We have our own power grid. Beef. Hogs. Yard birds. Vegetables. Refining. Aerospace. Computers. Port.

Sounds like you need a crane engineer. brb
Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 08, 2016 04:51 PM (jsWA

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And stuff needs to be fixed, homes built. Plus Im a pretty good shot and can manufacture ammo.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 08, 2016 04:53 PM (8XRCm)

817 These warrior of the wasteland fantasies get tiresome quick. If you're
really a veteran, 'Colonel', then you must remember that oath you took.
Advocating seccession and civil war runs counter to that oath, don't you
think?

No, the oath I took was to preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.

Having a strategic base to fight those enemies from rather makes sense.

Posted by: An Observation at November 08, 2016 04:54 PM (1WYLC)

818 The problem with the periods know as "dusk" and "dawn" are that for a few moments, they are indistinguishable from one another. A bit of time has to pass before an observer can know what comes next on the timeline.

Darkness... or Light.

Either way, last time I checked, I remember how to use a flashlight. I also know the wisdom of not looking directly at the big, bright yellow thingy overhead.

Tomorrow is another day. I like to think that I still have many miles to go before I sleep, but not a single second of it shall be squandered worrying about history that I can not personally control.

As of the time I am writing this, it is jump ball for the country, and for western civilization. Dusk, or dawn.

If we wait long enough, the ref's whistle will sound, letting us know who has the ball.

Posted by: itzWicks at November 08, 2016 04:54 PM (Ql1ja)

819 660 638 It's paper ballot inserted into a scanner. I really would like a receipt showing how it registered my vote.
Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a deplorable at November 08, 2016 04:17 PM (Enq6K)

Same thing for us today, sucks, how do we know any of our votes are really counted?

If they've hacked the system, a receipt won't tell you anything. I'm just happy there is a physical copy.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at November 08, 2016 04:54 PM (J70i0)

820 So completely wrong. "Conservatism" in so much as it is currently
embodied by either the media caricature of it, or the "Republican" brand
that represents it cannot GET weaker. It is DEAD. Over. Kaput.

Whatever comes next, whatever conglomeration of voters that creates a
politicial party that can ultimately win national office again, MAY be
considered "conservatism", but it most assuredly will not be
"Republican". And by that time, the meaning of the word "conservatism"
may not matter and it may not be anything near what you think it is
today.

Posted by: deadrody at November 08, 2016 04:42 PM (W15tP)
Right now I envision the new entity having roots in American nationalism, with a core of white middle and working class folks, but having a very diverse make up over all. The platforms will be security, keeping jobs here, national sovereignty and curtailing federal overreach, keeping power within the states and local govts.
My .02 prediction.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at November 08, 2016 04:58 PM (1zARK)

821 IF

You can talk with crowds and keep your virtue.

Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch

If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you

If all men count with you, but none too much

If you can fill the unforgiving minute

With sixty seconds of distance run

Yours is the earth and everything that's in it

And which is more, you'll be a Man, my son!

-Rudyard Kipling

A good day to remember one of my favorite writers.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 08, 2016 04:58 PM (3myMJ)

822 >>> What you are actually referring to is the AVALANCHE of establishment opinion, hand wringing and media hyper-ventilating over Trump saying mean things. You are confusing the tsunami of hype for substance.
.....

This is all true.

It was also true in 2008 and 2012.

The media sucks and gets worse every day. Pundits who make their living from saying vapid shit haven't changed. Elected Republicans are just as much lying, liberal, backstabbing, corrupt shit bags as Democrats and both have one interest and one interest only: their bullshit "jobs" where they go from being destitute and unemployable to billionaires who are treated like royalty all over the world for nothing more than showing up to vote less than 70% of the time.

None of this is unique to this election. Name a single Republican that's run for president in the past several decades who hasn't been called a racist and accused of sexual indiscretions and hated or women, children and grandma... by Democrats and media mouthpieces who are raping transgender midgets, pushing grandma onto an iceberg, and sending their kids off to "programs" while they scream the accusations.

Trump will lose for 2 reasons:
1. Trump
2. 52%+ love being lied to, entertained, and will never learn or take responsibility for themselves or anything else

Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2016 04:58 PM (71OEY)

823 been the art thread.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 08,

I always miss the good stuff!

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 08, 2016 05:01 PM (3myMJ)

824 547 Just curious; is the plan still for President Trump to destroy Ted Cruz for his disloyalty, or is he just going burn Cruz's face with an iron and make him a minion? While keeping Ben Sasse naked in a cage and feeding him dog food sandwiches?

Posted by: V the K at November 08, 2016 04:06 PM (O7MnT)
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The plan was for Trump to first bite Sasse's tongue off, spit it out and roar, then put him in the cage naked and feed him dog food sammiches.

Just voted Trump. MAGA!

Posted by: Marmeaux at November 08, 2016 05:01 PM (xujbM)

825 The pantsuit brigade is out in full force today.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 08, 2016 04:03 PM (QPfiT)

And you're rocking a pair of those multicolor crocheted ones, right?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2016 05:01 PM (CUYn5)

826 Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2016 04:58 PM (71OEY)

The one phenomenon that you see going in one direction for the most part is democrats becoming republicans. I think that has a lot to do with moving the GOP unconsciously to the Left. I don't think it was an intentional infiltration but the result has been a positive for the Left.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 05:06 PM (kaCWe)

827 >>>If you're really a veteran, 'Colonel', then you must remember that oath you took. Advocating seccession and civil war runs counter to that oath, don't you think?
.....

I've never served but the oath goes something like "something, something... defend the Constitution..:", right?

From where I am sitting, nothing that has occurred in the past several decades even remotely resembles the Constitution. One could argue that those who swear an oath to abide by and defend it have been derelict in their duties by NOT taking substantive action. (Military excluded. Orders and all that. Yet every politician swears a similar oath, do they not?)

Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2016 05:06 PM (71OEY)

828 @160 or thereabouts

Do other Texans feel the same? I'd be curious.

Posted by: SH at November 08, 2016 03:16 PM (gmeXX)

I do.

I was born in a time in VT when there were real honest to God yankees who could give a flying fuck about the FSA. Get out there man, and do it.

That said, I've been in Texas for some years and I knew from the first blast of heat with the 'whoosh' of the sliding doors to the outside at Bush Airport, I was home.

Never leaving, nope, nope, nope. Well 'til death do I part... but that's not happening anytime soon, I'll tell you what.

As for the Sen. Blutarsky anecdotes... Anyone know if Belushi was a constitutionalist at heart?

I get sppeling underslines for that, so from google itself

Constitutionalism is "a complex of ideas,
attitudes, and patterns of behavior elaborating the principle that the
authority of government derives from and is limited by a body of
fundamental law".

Worried a bit, hence any good reason to drink, but...

ne'er worry, ain't over by a long hour or several

Posted by: micky at November 08, 2016 05:09 PM (o5vMc)

829 I think people who only see that Trump has to run the table are forgetting that Her Cankleness also has to run the table. She has no margin of error, either.

Posted by: Marmeaux at November 08, 2016 05:10 PM (xujbM)

830 Would it be too much to ask for us to wait and see what the actual voting results are before we preemptively surrender? Also perhaps we could attempt not spending all of Election Day trying to depress our base. It's like there is some sort of contest going on not to be the last person to give up. I'll wait til the results actually come in against us before I give up. If that makes me the last Trump supporter around , I'm not exactly going to die from it.

Posted by: George Kaplan at November 08, 2016 05:12 PM (gVhly)

831 @Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 08, 2016 05:06 PM (kaCWe)

Valid point.

My option is that there is not now, nor has there been in a LONG time, and genuine, substantive difference between parties. Again, their one interest is remaining in office. The rest is a WWE performance.

Go back to the founding of the "Commission on Presidential Debates". It was founded by Democrats and Republicans for ONE reason and one reason only: to prevent any other individual or party from being part of the debates.

Fuck parties. We don't need a 3rd party or a different party or a party who represents us...

Let's start with the easy shit: job of everyone who is not president is to vote. Period. Carry your worthless, unemployable ass to DC and vote how you're told. Nothing else.

Now, do you want any of these assholes voting according to a party (who's sole interest is the well being of the party) or for their district or state? Do you want SC justices to vote based on idealology or decide "Is this shit expressly authorized by the Constitution or not?".

Fuck all parties.

Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2016 05:15 PM (71OEY)

832 They have no natural predators and humans won't and cannot kill them by law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2016 04:33 PM (39g3+)

But it's totes OK to smash them to death on the blades of giant windmills!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2016 05:23 PM (CUYn5)

833 Drudge has got some exit polling stuff up.

HILLARY +PA
TRUMP +AZ, GA, IA, NC, OH
COLORADO SHOWDOWN
FLORIDA SHOWDOWN
MICHIGAN SHOWDOWN
NEVADA SHOWDOWN

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 08, 2016 05:26 PM (d76uN)

834 Drudges opinions not actual exit polling.

My fault.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 08, 2016 05:30 PM (d76uN)

835 We are fucked...double fucked!

Posted by: R. DUKE at November 08, 2016 05:32 PM (ONH2e)

836 McCain was much more the Reagan conservative that Trump is, yet so many who couldn't stomach McCain are all in for Trump.

Seems rather strange that now, if Trump doesn't win, it's time to fold up the tents and retreat to the bomb shelters.

Good. Maybe then conservatism properly understood will have a chance to rebuild and renew, minus the disaster that is Trump and all who followed him over the cliff, dragging the name of conservatism through the mud the whole way.

Especially if he wins, the libertarian-national defense-traditionalist coalition that made the GOP a force in national politics will be dead, replaced by something utterly idiotic and reactionary, the embodiment of every progressive caricature.

Trump can be trusted with none of the three values of the old coalition, and it isn't "quisling" to point that out. At some point, Republican voters turned into Charlie Sheen, sacrificing their souls in the name of "winning"...

A Pyrrhic victory.

Posted by: StayingHome at November 08, 2016 05:33 PM (2Cv9g)

837 836 Posted by: StayingHome at November 08, 2016 05:33 PM (2Cv9g)

Crack is a helluva drug. Seek rehab.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 05:43 PM (mbhDw)

838 833 Drudge has got some exit polling stuff up.

HILLARY +PA
TRUMP +AZ, GA, IA, NC, OH
COLORADO SHOWDOWN
FLORIDA SHOWDOWN
MICHIGAN SHOWDOWN
NEVADA SHOWDOWN
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 08, 2016 05:26 PM (d76uN)

Unfortunately there's no meat to it. It's not even 5PM eastern and most polls are open for about another 4 hours, at least in NY State. I'm not even looking.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 05:44 PM (mbhDw)

839 I reluctantly voted for McCain because of Palin and was sorely disappointed by her afterward. Why is that different for the NeverTrumpers if it happens this time? Could it be that NeverTrumpers have no regard for this nation when they allow Hillary to win by their non-vote? Perhaps, they are deflecting attention from their own faults when they judge Trump to be unworthy?

I admire Ace who came to Trump reluctantly as I came to McCain perhaps because we are Americans who value this country and will do what is necessary despite our reservations. To me, that is the essence of patriotism.

Posted by: rickk at November 08, 2016 05:56 PM (CcnLe)

840 I'm surprised to read that it's taken you all so long to figure out what these GOP Conservatives were up to: they pretend to fight as means to get you to support them and once they are in office snuggle up with their supposed political adversaries to expand the scope and role of their power base, i.e.; Government.

You have deluded yourselves for far too long. Only through acknowledgement and acceptance of your folly can healing and progress be achieved.

Posted by: steve walsh at November 08, 2016 06:04 PM (SPxQP)

841 I want Trump will be the Godzilla of Black Swans.

Posted by: WisRich at November 08, 2016 03:56 PM (hdpay)

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THIS

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at November 08, 2016 06:09 PM (tHwdc)

842 Unfortunately there's no meat to it. It's not even 5PM eastern and most polls are open for about another 4 hours, at least in NY State. I'm not even looking.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2016 05:44 PM (mbhDw)

Right now - late afternoon on election day - is like being in the eye of the storm.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 08, 2016 06:11 PM (u0lmX)

843 My boo and I voted together today. We wore our RushLimbaugh "I'm a Hillary Deplorable" matching t-shirts to our central FL polling place.

Afterwards we went to the grocery store...Boy did we get a lot of thumbs up admiring comments! (of course it just MIGHT have had to do with her lovely looks).

Ace really hit the nail on the head in this piece. People, we have to LOVE WINNING, and DESPISE LOSING. Strangely enough, our PRINCIPLES are winning principles, so as long as we brandish them boldly, we will win.

Reagan was no fluke--2 of the greatest wins in American political history. The Repub elites despised him. They were unprincipled losers.

Newt was no fluke--maybe the greatest LongMarch win in American political history. The Repub elites (esp the Bushes) despised him even more than they did Reagan--because they were unprincipled losers.

MarcoRubio rode the TeapParty to a great victory--then abandoned his voters for amnesty Huma Abedin. He is an unprincipled loser.

Donald Trump is not a principled conservative--but he likes to win, and despises losing. I think we will popping champagne corks tonight, in spite of the cowardly sabotage from the NeverTrump losers.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at November 08, 2016 06:17 PM (+O9YB)

844 When Hillary wins, a good plan would be to prevent 12,000,000 democrats, 39% of the total vote in the Republican Primary, from voting in the Republican Primary and picking your candidate.
As for what will be fixable. I do not think the nation started in a great position way back before 1776. It seemed to do just fine.

If Bill Clinton is re-elected...
If Barack Obama is elected...
If Barack Obama is re-elected...
Now, if Hillary Clinton is elected...

Going back in time, if anyone but the Republican is elected it is the end of the nation as we know it.

Then again, George W Bush was ostensibly far more conservative than Trump was, and he effected as much bad change in America as each individual Democrat did. Obama had to do most of his damage in the first 2 years when he had a super majority of the Senate. I think we will pretty much hold back Hillary a little better, with her getting a bare majority in the senate if she is lucky and losing that in two years.
I do not see Trump and his trumptarded followers being held back how ever. There are enough Republicans he has a cuckhold on and has plans favorable to the Democrats that he will get majorities for all his progressive shifts for the nation.
I already voted. It was not for Hillary and it was not for Trump. I reject your arguments, because your arguments are not in my interest, but in your own personal selfish interest. Power at any cost is not power I want.

Posted by: astonerii at November 08, 2016 06:20 PM (ia088)

845 Leaving work and off to Cub scout meeting with son. By the time I get home it may be a whole new world.

Posted by: Ripley at November 08, 2016 06:38 PM (1BQGO)

846 ok here is some real data in CO:

https://twitter.com/DenverChannel

scroll down to the turnout

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 08, 2016 06:51 PM (ODxAs)

847 If Hillary wins, media delenda est. If Trump wins, he'll delenda the media till the cows come home.

Posted by: vivi at November 08, 2016 06:55 PM (11H2y)

848 Of any of the states that could survive as a solo nation after secession, New York, Texas, and California are the ones.
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Delaware as a sort of on-shore Cayman Is.

Posted by: Will Bynne at November 08, 2016 07:07 PM (NUqwG)

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