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Scott Adams of Dilbert: I'm Endorsing Donald Trump, Because My Only Care In Politics Now Is To Push Back Against the Relentless, Remorseless Social Bullying of the Liberal Media and Political Establishment

Hear, hear.

I've been trying to figure out what common trait binds Clinton supporters together. As far as I can tell, the most unifying characteristic is a willingness to bully in all its forms.

If you have a Trump sign in your lawn, they will steal it.

If you have a Trump bumper sticker, they will deface your car.

if you speak of Trump at work you could get fired.

On social media, almost every message I get from a Clinton supporter is a bullying type of message. They insult. They try to shame. They label. And obviously they threaten my livelihood.

We know from Project Veritas that Clinton supporters tried to incite violence at Trump rallies. The media downplays it.

We also know Clinton’s side hired paid trolls to bully online. You don’t hear much about that.

Yesterday, by no coincidence, Huffington Post, Salon, and Daily Kos all published similar-sounding hit pieces on me, presumably to lower my influence. (That reason, plus jealousy, are the only reasons writers write about other writers.)

...

Team Clinton has succeeded in perpetuating one of the greatest evils I have seen in my lifetime. Her side has branded Trump supporters (40%+ of voters) as Nazis, sexists, homophobes, racists, and a few other fighting words. Their argument is built on confirmation bias and persuasion. But facts don’t matter because facts never matter in politics. What matters is that Clinton’s framing of Trump provides moral cover for any bullying behavior online or in person. No one can be a bad person for opposing Hitler, right?

...

As far as I can tell, the worst thing a presidential candidate can do is turn Americans against each other. Clinton is doing that, intentionally.

Intentionally.

As I often say, I don’t know who has the best policies. I don’t know the best way to fight ISIS and I don’t know how to fix healthcare or trade deals. I don’t know which tax policies are best to lift the economy. I don’t know the best way to handle any of that stuff. (And neither do you.) But I do have a bad reaction to bullies. And I’ve reached my limit.

I hope you have too. Therefore…

I endorse Donald Trump for President of the United States because I oppose bullying in all its forms.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. My politics have basically changed to be about only this about two or three years ago.

I have noticed, with great chagrin, that many conservatives support the Social Bullying Model -- the Social Justice Warrior coordinated group pile-on mass-shaming -- when it's someone else's ox being gored.

I don't. Enough. Enough of it all.

It is a bad enough fate to be a slave with a single master. To be a slave with ten million masters? Worse.

Interestingly -- or perhaps inevitably -- two whiny NeverTrumpers have penned recent columns about, basically, this same idea, that they are supporting Hillary due to bullying from Trump's more deranged followers. (Followers? Some are followers. Some are trolls. Some are trolls paid, most likely, by a foreign government to reduce Americans' faith in participatory government.)

I don't disagree with them on the point that the bullying is nasty -- and I oppose, as I said, Social Justice Warrioring coming from the right (or "alt-right") as well as the left. These whiners shouldn't have had to through that, and it's a bad thing they did.

However, it also seems to me that this bullying is coming on Twitter from, let us say, economically and socially fringe people with little power in the world.

It's not coming from where Team Hillary's bullying is coming from -- from the actual power centers of politics and media, the actual locus of genuine political power and control.

Does that make the behavior less egregious, or the whiners' pain less real? No it does not. Threats and racist nastiness and insults directed at one's family are painful and unacceptable no matter which septic tanks they rise up from.

But there is a big difference between bullying from some fringey Twitter losers and bullying coming from CNN and the media. Witness what they did to Ken Bone, for example.

Fringe people saying awful things is a scourge, obviously, but that's been with us since the dawn of time.

But when people in actual power begin picking a target, freezing it, isolating it, and attacking it with the full force of ten million megaphones -- that's an actual threat to the social freedom of every citizen in America.

We've all learned to not upset the Right People, haven't we? No matter how brave one might thing one is in the face of Social Justice Outrage Scalp-Hunting, we have all either consciously or subconsciously adapted our behaviors and limited our own free speech to avoid the bloody fury of the Maenads.

Right now the media has a new target for bullying: Taylor Swift. Seems the pop princess hasn't joined the other pop princesses in endorsing Hillary, Esquire is now a jihad to socially bully her into taking a stand against Trump.

Doesn't anyone have a sense of perspective? Who actually has more capacity to do harm and gin up hatred and bullying -- Esquire magazine (and you know another 30 media outlets will begin pushing this same line, because they're lazy, unimaginitive, slavisly imitative, and viciously partisan) or @OdinsTears69 on Twitter?

Incidentally, the NeverTrump crowd never fails to insult me by subtweet (a tweet with an intended target/recipient, but in which the target's @-handle is not used; a way to talk about them behind their backs, but publicly) for daring to be a Republican actually interested in stopping a Democrat from winning the White House.

In fact, there are several groups actively seeking purges of We Deplorables from the party -- and the whiners who whine about bullying on National Review never discuss that at all. Infinite pixels for the outrages of the "Trumpkins," none at all for the misbehavior of their ideological kinsmen.

As usual, one tends to overlook the misbehavior of one's fellow pro-Hillary partisans, while focusing laser-like on the misbehavior of one's pro-Trump enemies.

So yes, bullying is rampant online, but I have very little patience for those who permit it from their allies and only rouse themselves to condemn it in from their enemies.

That's not a very "consistent conservative" or "principled" position, NeverTrumpers, now is it?

I also don't respect moral foppery which declares I Will Vote For Hillary Because Some of Trump's More Febrile Supporters Insulted Me Nastily Online, while utterly failing to condemn Hillary and her allies -- her very powerful allies -- for their own social bullying efforts.

By the way, you guys making your purge lists: You needn't bother. I've purged myself. I don't wish to be in any party you're in, and I will actively work against your interests in the future. Forever.

Right wing Social Justice Warrioring is still Social Justice Warrioring, you Millennial idiots, and you much-older-and-should-certainly-know-better morons.

Posted by: Ace at 02:10 PM




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1 Amen.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:08 PM (qCMvj)

2 Since I've missed the last thread. Here is what looks to be the link to the original Che Che. Apparently it was Jack M.

minx.cc:1080/?post=199163

Posted by: Buzzion at October 27, 2016 02:08 PM (z/Ubi)

3 My God -

It's. Filled. With. Word.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2016 02:08 PM (f735k)

4 Consider Ken Bone.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:09 PM (Om16U)

5 >>As I often say, I don't know who has the best policies. I don't know the best way to fight ISIS and I don't know how to fix healthcare or trade deals. I don't know which tax policies are best to lift the economy. I don't know the best way to handle any of that stuff. (And neither do you.)



The fuck I don't.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2016 02:11 PM (f735k)

6 Or perhaps not the original but that is the style.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 27, 2016 02:11 PM (z/Ubi)

7 the Relentless, Remorseless Social Bullying of the Liberal Media and Political Establishment

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Kill that, and the battle is over. Well, once you scare the remaining leftist judges.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 27, 2016 02:11 PM (7ZVPa)

8 Clinton is doing that, intentionally.

Intentionally.



Pffft. She's a piker.

Posted by: TFG at October 27, 2016 02:13 PM (VndSC)

9 It is disheartening. Like, Ace, I'm not really a "conservative". (I prefer "radical Jeffersonian" as a descriptor, partly because nobody gets it.)

But I've always been able to hang with conservatives because, unlike the Left, they don't scream at you like Donald Sutherland in Body Snatchers when they find out you disagree.

Turns out a lot of 'em actually will. It's just a matter of where the disagreement lies.

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 02:13 PM (7zeA4)

10 Hear, hear.

Don't let the bastards get you down.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable at October 27, 2016 02:13 PM (GX63o)

11 and furthermore, the State Media must be destroyed

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 27, 2016 02:13 PM (QQ+il)

12 Trump giving a speech in Springfield, OH



Live feed:


http://tinyurl.com/zoddnhf

Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a depolorable at October 27, 2016 02:13 PM (Enq6K)

13 Right now the media has a new target for bullying: Taylor Swift. Seems the pop princess hasn't joined the other pop princesses in endorsing Hillary, Esquire is now a jihad to socially bully her into taking a stand against Trump.

funny you bring this up, I was just reading all of the twitter responses to this

lots of good zingers

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:15 PM (qCMvj)

14 Harumph I say....

I said...HARUMPH!!

Posted by: Nevertrump at October 27, 2016 02:15 PM (NF2Bf)

15 Use Alinsky Rule 5 judiciously against them.

Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.

Posted by: Roy at October 27, 2016 02:15 PM (VndSC)

16 Kill that, and the battle is over.

Well, once you scare the remaining leftist judges.



President Trump can do that in their dreams.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 02:15 PM (AoLFQ)

17 Live feed:


http://tinyurl.com/zoddnhf
Posted by: Tami...Powering through being a depolorable at October 27, 2016 02:13 PM (Enq6K)

thanks! watching

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:15 PM (Om16U)

18 Scott Adams has been a must read this season. 6 months ago I thought his talk about persuasion was really unhinged, but he has slowly convinced me.

His views on the election have really come at a substantial professional cost. I can sense the stress is starting to get to him, I wish him well. A fascinating thinker.

Posted by: Max Power at October 27, 2016 02:15 PM (q177U)

19
Scott Adams: " Their argument is built on confirmation bias and persuasion."


That's all they have. But it is quite powerful. And it works, especially on the Republican establishment who run like cowards when the Democrats raise their hand in anger.

Posted by: Soothsayer Wu at October 27, 2016 02:16 PM (rFQmw)

20 By the way, you guys making your purge lists: You needn't bother. I've purged myself. I don't wish to be in any party you're in, and I will actively work against your interests in the future. Forever.

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I loved Rick Perry's line about wanting to make Washington as inconsequential in your life as possible. That about sums up my goal for the federal government.

However, we can get there is the direction I want to go.

Posted by: SH at October 27, 2016 02:16 PM (gmeXX)

21 Scott Adams has at one point or another in this campaign, endorsed Hillary Clinton, Gary Johnson, and now Donald Trump. I am waiting for the final shoe to drop where he announces his endorsement of Jill Stein.

Or maybe it won't be the final shoe. There is still the McMuffin to consider.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 27, 2016 02:16 PM (R+30W)

22 Right on,brother.

Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2016 02:16 PM (fA75F)

23 Behold my powers to scare adult men on Twitter!

Posted by: @OdinsTears69 at October 27, 2016 02:17 PM (NF2Bf)

24 Someone can only bully you with your permission. One nice thing about getting old and fat: when someone starts that shit with me, I simply look them in the eye and say, "I don't give a fuck what you think."

I'm not sure at what age that can be done, but certainly a "G" rated version should be taught as an early remedy to this.

Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at October 27, 2016 02:17 PM (DmxjT)

25 Outstanding.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 27, 2016 02:17 PM (/tuJf)

26 America...
It's tween girls, all the way down.

Posted by: wooga at October 27, 2016 02:18 PM (krea5)

27 Mommm! I said I wanted pancakes for breakfast!

Posted by: @OdinsTears69 at October 27, 2016 02:18 PM (NF2Bf)

28 I got into trouble by insisting that it wasn't Trump that was a fascist but the Left.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 27, 2016 02:18 PM (zp+j1)

29 Suggesting that we become an actual opposition? Why, I never! Where's the nearest fainting couch?

Posted by: GOPe at October 27, 2016 02:19 PM (EIB5Y)

30 Incidentally, the NeverTrump crowd never fails to insult me by subtweet (a tweet with an intended target/recipient, but in which the target's @-handle is not used; a way to talk about them behind their backs, but publicly) for daring to be a Republican actually interested in stopping a Democrat from winning the White House.

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I think its time we just admit that Twitter and Facebook are the problems. I'm proud to say I'm on neither. Though I do read twitter a lot - and laugh a lot. So I'm not helping.

Posted by: SH at October 27, 2016 02:19 PM (gmeXX)

31 Preach it Ace.

**This** is the reason I vote the way I do. Thanks for putting it more eloquently than I could.

Posted by: GMan at October 27, 2016 02:19 PM (sxq57)

32 I think we gloss over the very real likelihood that the worst of the Trump "supporters" online are also Hillary plants. How hard would it be to get a few egg accounts on Twitter to make racist memes? Not very. All it takes is one whiff of antisemitism from the periphery to get the likes of Jen Rubin to go full neverTrump.

Now, I wouldn't discount that there are real Trump supporters who pull that shit or folks who are doing it for the lulz. But I find it much more reasonable to believe that when somebody posts things that make Trump supporters appear in the worst possible light, they might not actually be Trump supporters, but people who want to make him look bad.

But I don't have a rich mommy who propelled me into the pundit class, so what do I know?

Posted by: bskb at October 27, 2016 02:19 PM (uz1TO)

33 I put aside the Trumpers rabid attacks on Cruz, because I'm a NeverHillary (actually NeverLefty) but some of these so called "conservatives" need to go. The fuse is lit 💣

Posted by: Iblis at October 27, 2016 02:20 PM (9221z)

34 >> America...
>It's tween girls, all the way down.


**Sigh**

Posted by: Roman Polanski at October 27, 2016 02:20 PM (f735k)

35 By the way, you guys making your purge lists: You needn't bother.

My highly educated relative just sent me an article written by an AEI writer, Michael Strain, describing just that: how The Party has to be cleaned up after the big debacle of Nov. 8.
(funny how the Vichy Gopes have already conceded and are fighting over their little post-vote fiefdoms, no?)

Mr. Strain's first targets are: Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham.

Posted by: kallisto at October 27, 2016 02:20 PM (nNdYv)

36 Faction building 101.

It's like they use Federalist 10 as a "How To" manual for destroying liberty.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at October 27, 2016 02:20 PM (fQ+9g)

37 But Ace, the mean Trumpsters made fun of my bald head. I now must support Hillary as a consistent conservative.

Posted by: Ben Howe at October 27, 2016 02:20 PM (OD2ni)

38 Ever since I was a child, I have had a visceral negative reaction to any peer pressure activities, or the false narrative of relying on an 'expert' to tell one what to think. I never understood any need to 'get along', or to 'do what you are told' by anyone other than my parents or supervisors. One of the big reasons I tend conservative is the idea of independence in thought and action, and I always assumed those in political alignment with me shared those feelings, and a great many have, though a few tend to follow this bullying mode.

What has happened to the people of this country that following the herd, and brainless repetition of talking points now is the rule and not ridiculed? How did we get so that millions are pushed around like sheep, and let it happen?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 27, 2016 02:20 PM (7ZVPa)

39 Adams makes GREAT points throughout this post.

But it's strange that this is his third endorsement in a short time -- maybe two or three months. He first endorsed Clinton, but openly claiming it was just cover to avoid this sort of bullying. Then, Johnson, when he saw Clinton's proposal on estate taxes. Now, Trump, as a thumb in the left's eye.

I don't know what conclusion to draw, except that he is a strange guy with strange obsessions about persuasion.

Posted by: redsweater at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (uNXrh)

40 It's been their MO for years. Joe the Plumber was bullied to say the least. The man wasn't a plant (like so many Hil-rah the everliving questions) and he wasn't seeking the public eye, but he dared to ask their God-King an uncomfortable question and for that he was to be destroyed. The Media and The Left (BIRM) is a truly loathsome bunch.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (3sOO0)

41 By the way, you guys making your purge lists: You needn't bother. I've purged myself.
==============================================


Wait. Are we talking politics or weight loss?

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (bpfzP)

42 If Trump loses (which I don't expect to happen), "Trumpism" isn't going away. If you look at his policy proposals there's something in there for all the Repub factions except the co-opted Establishment types and the Neo-Cons.

If Hillary is elected (which I don't expect to happen) a disastrous four-year term is baked in. Who would be the 2020 R nominee. It won't be Paul Ryan, who may no longer be Speaker. I'd bet on Pence picking up Trump's mantle, with less opera.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (r1fLd)

43

Why are celebs staying silent about politics? Esquire editor answers own question by naming and shaming

http://bit.ly/2dPNmOW

zingers at Twitchy


and btw, Scott Adams posted a Tweet that people are attacking him for - it's pretty brutal - Twitchy has that too. Many of the Morons were offended by Adam's tweet. They are on the string at Twitchy too.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (qCMvj)

44 I simply look them in the eye and say, "I don't give a fuck what you think."


In many ways, life gets a lot easier when you don't give a shit what other people think of you.

Posted by: GMan at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (sxq57)

45 Yeah this is something that needs to be emphasized. Trump is the anti PC voice. He's the anti safe space. He's the anti snowflake. Trump violates and terrifies and triggers the eloi in our midst. He's the laughing old school man stomping all over their fences and cringing whines.

That's why I want to see him win. He's the everyman striking back against an insane culture gone radical more every year. Hillary is a voice for more, more, more of it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (39g3+)

46
The only thing missing from Ace is a big F You to the phony cocksuckers, the self-proclaimed "true conservatives" Evan McMullin and Gary Johnson who are secretly and not-so-secretly by Republicans to stab us in the back and help hillary clinton win.

Posted by: Soothsayer Wu at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (rFQmw)

47 In the '50s, Poul Anderson wrote a novel called "Brain Wave" which posited that biological intelligence in an area of space was affected by large, moving fields of energy dampening. In his story, the earth exits the field its been in for millions of years and everyone gets five times as smart as they were. (Animals included!)

I feel like maybe it's the other way around. There are big clouds of stupidity and insanity moving over us most of the time, with brief outbreaks of intelligence and sanity.

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (7zeA4)

48 28 I got into trouble by insisting that it wasn't Trump that was a fascist but the Left.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 27, 2016 02:18 PM (zp+j1)

Fascism has always been a leftist ideology. Don't let Democrats tell you otherwise.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 27, 2016 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

49 His views on the election have really come at a substantial professional cost.
Posted by: Max Power at October 27, 2016 02:15 PM (q177U)

He says he's lost a million in speaker's fees this past year. Of course, if he charges at Hillary's levels that means he's gotten 3 or 4 cancellations.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 02:22 PM (u0lmX)

50 What he said.

It's funny how the Never Trump nimrods haven't picked up on they've been purged.

Posted by: Nora the Deplorable at October 27, 2016 02:22 PM (PCkeH)

51 Many of the Morons were offended by Adam's tweet. They are on the string at Twitchy too.

I wasn't offended, I just think he's off target with the IS tweet. They're incompetent, sloppy, and juvenile, whether they strike or don't has no bearing on our politics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:22 PM (39g3+)

52 Oh please, Adams' endorsement of Clinton & Johnson were obviously tongue in cheek.

That's the problem with humor-impaired people attempting to read cartoonists.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:23 PM (Om16U)

53 Purged myself here are well, I'm not voting GOP downticket, and I'm changing my voter registration on 11/9

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at October 27, 2016 02:23 PM (Uy8SG)

54 Comments temporarily disabled
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I'd say that is a good move at the moment. Why deal with headache.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 27, 2016 02:23 PM (/D5Lf)

55 Ace,

I do not like social justice bullying either. But I will use any and every tool available to fight the left.

Fortunately the only tools available for now are words.

Posted by: rd at October 27, 2016 02:23 PM (Rtl0g)

56 >>>Mommm! I said I wanted pancakes for breakfast!

👀

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy, sippin' 🍷 with Winona at October 27, 2016 02:23 PM (LhdNI)

57 I voted for a lot of independents, and one libertarian judge. I don't trust or care for most libertarian politicians, but as a judge, I'd like a guy who holds liberty highest in their list of priorities.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:24 PM (39g3+)

58 >>He says he's lost a million in speaker's fees this past year. Of course, if he charges at Hillary's levels that means he's gotten 3 or 4 cancellations

He spoke at a trade association dinner I attended a number of years ago. Very funny and very smart guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 27, 2016 02:24 PM (/tuJf)

59 I've decided I belong to the "Leave Me the F Alone" party. That should be the Libertarian Party, but 5 minutes of listening to Johnson or reading Reason shows you it's not...

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 02:24 PM (u0lmX)

60 It is a bad enough fate to be a slave with a single master. To be a slave with ten million masters? Worse.

There was a quote similar to that during the Revolution, as I recall, when one Tory said that he preferred being ruled by one tyrant a thousand miles away than by a thousand tyrants one mile away.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 27, 2016 02:25 PM (X6fMO)

61 I don't know what conclusion to draw, except that he is a strange guy with strange obsessions about persuasion.
Posted by: redsweater at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (uNXrh)

I'd read his blog for a while but stopped a few years ago. He'd always struck me as having that personality quirk that's common in lawyers where they can take an arbitrary position on anything and as long as they can make an argument for it, it makes them right.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 27, 2016 02:25 PM (KUaJL)

62 "Trumpism" isn't going away. If you look at his policy proposals there's something in there for all the Repub factions except the co-opted Establishment types and the Neo-Cons.

There is no Trumpism. Trump is a candidate, not a movement.

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:25 PM (tewYv)

63 Behold as I skewer Ben Howe with the Twitter Gungnir of pain!

Posted by: @OdinsTears69 at October 27, 2016 02:25 PM (NF2Bf)

64 One of us will be purged when this shit comes to a head, which it rapidly is. Society cannot continue on like it is, with one side openly attacking, shaming, bullying, intimidating and harassing the other. They are only allowed to continue to do this because we let them. We've been patient as parents with unruly children can be, but that patience is nearing an end.

What they don't get, what they fail to acknowledge (i'd love to see someone start writing THAT article), is that they are truly fucking with the wrong people. The limp-wristed, beta male, femi-nazi bridgade and SJW crew are messing with true to life, shit-kicking cowboys and rednecks who'd love nothing more than a chance to wring some bullying asshole's neck.

One would think at some point, one of these less-dumb individuals will write an article asking the question, is it wise for us to keep kicking the big man in the shin?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 27, 2016 02:26 PM (2PHKP)

65 Hillary supporters and the equally odious #NeverTrumpers only prove that the imaginary left and right wings are equal along a totalitarian plane.

Which is why I reject a right wing label, I am for liberty and the line that separates us is vertical. Downward towards slavery, upwards towards liberty...a real smart former President said that once. The #NeverTrump crowd uses the same arguments as the other totalitarians, therefore my simple calculus is they are the same. Walks like a Donald Ducks, Quacks like a Donald Ducks...therefore they are Donald Ducks.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at October 27, 2016 02:26 PM (7N6ox)

66 I am seriously thinking of voting for Trump/Pence and writing in 'screw you' for all the down ballot options. Disclaimer: I am in Cali so I am screwed anyway.

Posted by: IC at October 27, 2016 02:26 PM (a0IVu)

67 Incidentally, the NeverTrump crowd never fails to insult me by subtweet (a tweet with an intended target/recipient, but in which the target's @-handle is not used; a way to talk about them behind their backs, but publicly) for daring to be a Republican actually interested in stopping a Democrat from winning the White House.


here's another

Republicans Helping Elect Another Failed Clinton

http://spectator.org/republicans-helping-elect-another-failed-clinton/

The Never Trump folks believe theyre voting principle. Many have asserted that Hillary Clinton won't be the strong ( wo )man that many of us fear. They assert that fear itself has become a problem. The world didn't end under Obama. The four-year political fear cycle is always hyperbole, they contend. It never gets that bad. America is still standing even after eight years of Obama.

Yes, there are those that argue that Obama's tenure didn't irreparably harm America. Many beg to differ:

20 Trillion in debt
Debauched moral culture
Destabilized institutions including FBI, DOJ, SoS, DHS
Rule of Law thrown out
Troubled race relations
Politicized institutions including the IRS and all the above
Weakened United States on the world stage
Permanent underclass of workers who've given up looking for work
Obamacare killing health care costs
Metastasized war in the Middle East
Destabilization in Asia
New Cold War with Russia
There's more and worse.

Hillary will not ameliorate one of these issues. She'll calcify them. They'll become hardwired into the American DNA. Then, there's the Supreme Court.


Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:26 PM (qCMvj)

68 I really don't care about bullying from people or even the media. I'm more concerned with people who want to actually control my life AND my thoughts, by the coercive force of government. I also don't want to be subjected to violence by idiots - which is really what the left is about. Not bullying in the neo-modern "you hurt my feelings" sense, but real, physical violence. And when the powers that be actually sanction that violence against me - by not prosecuting the criminals and throwing me in jail if I defend myself - ... then that is a real problem.

Opinions and people telling me how much they hate me ... I really couldn't care less. Frankly, i don't care what most people think about anything.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 27, 2016 02:27 PM (zc3Db)

69 There is a big difference between a lone troll giving someone harassment and those directed by a campaign to go after someone.

And it is sad that it is a cartoonist known for awkward engineers and monomaniacal dogs has a better grasp of this than the professional conservative pundits.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase a Self-Denouncement Kit from the Outrage Outlet! at October 27, 2016 02:27 PM (hLRSq)

70 But when people in actual power begin picking a target, freezing it, isolating it, and attacking it with the full force of ten million megaphones -- that's an actual threat to the social freedom of every citizen in America.


When's Justine land?

Look, I've been hounded out of areas of life which I quit enjoyed because I could not stand either having to put up with vicious insults or being drawn down into throwing punches back. Hell, there are entire political topics about which I do not speak except to an extremely limited number of people and only then in private because I am not willing to pay the price of doing so publicly. And that's just peer shaming.


We are facing what can only be described as a Stalinist, if not outright Orwellian, world in which anyone's private thoughts and actions can now bring about a world of official, government sanctioned personal destruction.

Look at what is going on with Title IX and the utterly insane view of it being taken by OCR right now. Some random guy at UT makes up the name "Sarah Jackson" as the name of the lab assistant because he couldn't remember her name and he gets a zero on the quiz because someone (the lab assistant, it must be) decided that he was referencing some porn star and not that he picked two random common names.

He complains about that, it gets picked up online and then the Title IX office opens an official investigation into him.

That's not even Star Chamber stuff. That's outright Stasi insanity.

The IRS, by its own admission, targeted individual Americans based on their political views.

And you know what? I don't blame people for wanting to use that power for themselves. That is human nature. We are cruel, vicious beasts. But that doesn't make it right.

Posted by: alexthechick - my poor redheaded stepmules at October 27, 2016 02:27 PM (mf5HN)

71 He spoke at a trade association dinner I attended a number of years ago. Very funny and very smart guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 27, 2016 02:24 PM (/tuJf)


IIRC he says he had about 60 last year, and this year, zero.

$20k is not outlandish in the speaker circuit, I expect that is about where he's at. Or was.



Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:27 PM (tewYv)

72 Trump is on CNN right now giving a speech.


He mentioned Wikileaks, Bill's corruption and laid out a nice case against Hillary.



I'm surprised CNN allowed it to air and just didn't cut him off with a story of young Muslims having bad dreams...



I think the rot in all Western countries is too deep, but Trump is probably the last best shot at change. If he loses, I don't care what happens...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2016 02:28 PM (vvKUi)

73 I've decided I belong to the "Leave Me the F Alone" party.


I'm with Donna on this...

Posted by: deplorable donna at October 27, 2016 02:28 PM (O2RFr)

74 I also don't respect moral foppery which declares I Will Vote For Hillary Because Some of Trump's More Febrile Supporters Insulted Me Nastily Online,


if this is true, they need to grow up

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:28 PM (qCMvj)

75 "Incidentally, the NeverTrump crowd never fails to insult me by subtweet (a tweet with an intended target/recipient, but in which the target's @-handle is not used; a way to talk about them behind their backs, but publicly) for daring to be a Republican actually interested in stopping a Democrat from winning the White House."

Trump is the Republican Candidate. He is NOT a UNIPARTY approved candidate. The Uniparty and their media buddies want to stop him, because he might blow up the show.

Posted by: rd at October 27, 2016 02:28 PM (Rtl0g)

76 A timely video from Prager U on the topic.

The Dark Art of Political Intimidation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXocwzYjcBc

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable at October 27, 2016 02:29 PM (GX63o)

77 Scott Adams is deliberately trying to nullify his own "endorsement". That's why he keeps switching up. I think he's saying, "Don't be an idiot. It doesn't matter who I endorse. If you really care it's probably because you want to use it as a cudgel against me after the election."

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 02:29 PM (7zeA4)

78 When this election started, I declared "no more Bushes, no more Clintons" Everyone cheered when I said it on social media: left, right, political, apolitical, didn't matter.

Well the Republican party did their part to eliminate Bush from the running. Now its up to the American people to stop Clinton.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:29 PM (39g3+)

79 So well said.

If you have a star on the walk of Fame it too will be defaced and removed. The idiot that did that said in an interview that he was so upset at Trump for his treatment of women, that he planned to sell the star and name he removed and use the money for these poor abused women that Trump brutalized. I wonder how much the Clinton campaign paid him to do this.

Willowed from the last thread:


On MSN website, they have a headline:

"Trump Pushes Melania Back on Campaign Trail"

You see he pushed her! That brute! He probably grabbed her by the you-know-what and pushed her onto the trail with nothing but a covered wagon.

Posted by: Cheri at October 27, 2016 02:29 PM (oiNtH)

80 Which is why I reject a right wing label, I am for liberty and the line that separates us is vertical. Downward towards slavery, upwards towards liberty...a real smart former President said that once. The #NeverTrump crowd uses the same arguments as the other totalitarians, therefore my simple calculus is they are the same. Walks like a Donald Ducks, Quacks like a Donald Ducks...therefore they are Donald Ducks.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared


This.

The right didn't discard the results of the AK Senate primary; the GOP leadership did.

The right didn't write off the election days ago. Rove did.
They've proven repeatedly that they hate us. They were enraged at the Tea party movements.

They've shown repeatedly whom they will fight for, and against.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 27, 2016 02:29 PM (326rv)

81
It's obvious why Democrats and their Media want to pretend ACORN never existed or the SEIU are election fraudsters,

but I also understand why Republicans also pretend ACORN never existed: it would be an admission that the Republicans are Eunuchs.

Posted by: Soothsayer Wu at October 27, 2016 02:30 PM (rFQmw)

82 All of this. All of it.

Amen.

Posted by: DocJ at October 27, 2016 02:30 PM (NYS7S)

83 66 I am seriously thinking of voting for Trump/Pence and writing in 'screw you' for all the down ballot options. Disclaimer: I am in Cali so I am screwed anyway.


Posted by: IC at October 27, 2016 02:26 PM (a0IVu)

As long as there isn't some f'ed up law in Cali that allows them to ditch a ballot if it has profanity or whatever written on it...who knows, with Cali. Seems they have a law regulating how you breathe.

As I said to a Cali NeverTrumper this morning, I think even people in deep Blue states should make it clear they haven't all be assimilated into the Borg...

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 02:30 PM (u0lmX)

84 "I've purged myself. I don't wish to be in any party you're in, and I will actively work against your interests in the future. Forever."

It's interesting you say this, because I've sort of come to the same conclusion. If Trump loses, I'll reregister as "unaffiliated" as probably drop out of politics for a few cycles. The Republican leadership is almost against my beliefs as much as the dems at this point.

Amazing it took Trump, of all people, to reveal the level of rot in the Republican party.

Posted by: Grimaldi at October 27, 2016 02:31 PM (V/f/L)

85 The IRS, by its own admission, targeted individual Americans based on their political views.

And no one - NO ONE - at the IRS paid a price for this.

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:31 PM (tewYv)

86 Have you forgotten your scripture, the thirteenth scroll? "And Proteus brought the upright beast into the garden and chained him to a tree and the children did make sport of him."

Posted by: Dr. Zaius MD at October 27, 2016 02:31 PM (Y/VkU)

87 Hillary and Michelle are on CNN now. ANOTHER speech at a university. It seems as if that's the only place she can pack in a crowd. Sucks for her that youth turnout is being pegged at 50%



Trump's people put up a social network notice that a rally is going to happen in a couple of hours and the place gets packed.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2016 02:31 PM (vvKUi)

88 Hillary and Michelle are on CNN now.

Tow shrill Harpies on the same stage...

Posted by: deplorable donna at October 27, 2016 02:32 PM (O2RFr)

89 I feel like maybe it's the other way around. There are big clouds of stupidity and insanity moving over us most of the time, with brief outbreaks of intelligence and sanity.

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 02:21 PM (7zeA4)


A brain cloud of stupid.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 27, 2016 02:32 PM (4ErVI)

90 The IRS, by its own admission, targeted individual Americans based on their political views.

And no one - NO ONE - at the IRS paid a price for this.

-----------

I thought Cruz would get more mileage out of wanting to eliminate the IRS. Who could be against such a move? (my thinking).

Posted by: SH at October 27, 2016 02:32 PM (gmeXX)

91 but I also understand why Republicans also pretend ACORN never existed


Everything becomes clear once you realize that the Republican Leadership is in.on.it. They are the good cops in the good cop bad cop act of the socialist fusion party.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 27, 2016 02:32 PM (QQ+il)

92 One would think at some point, one of these less-dumb individuals will write an article asking the question, is it wise for us to keep kicking the big man in the shin?

But they don't think that way.

The left are the little shits who kick you in the leg and, when you try to hit back, hide behind their big brother (the power of the federal government, in this case). They'll continue to kick because they know you can't win the fight.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 27, 2016 02:32 PM (X6fMO)

93 Tow =two...

Posted by: deplorable donna at October 27, 2016 02:32 PM (O2RFr)

94 And no one - NO ONE - at the IRS paid a price for this.

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:31 PM (tewYv)


Darrel Issa and Trey Gowdy will get right on it. They have some more hearings scheduled for November 3rd ... 2063. At 4:30pm.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 27, 2016 02:33 PM (zc3Db)

95 66
I am seriously thinking of voting for Trump/Pence and writing in 'screw you' for all the down ballot options. Disclaimer: I am in Cali so I am screwed anyway.


Posted by: IC at October 27, 2016 02:26 PM (a0IVu)


Trump has asked that you support the down ticket, IIRC. Take your frustrations out on the coup participants, if necessary, but the presidency is not a dictatorship. Trump will need all the support he can muster, if he is going to be effective. That won't come from Dems, largely. It might come from Reps.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable at October 27, 2016 02:33 PM (GX63o)

96 This is a complete mess.

As for me. If Trump wins the bullies win. Period.

I hate Hillary, not voting for either. But if Trump wins the bullies win.

Not okay.

Neither is it okay if crime does pay... which will be confirmed win Hillary wins, but crime has paid for a long time now pretending it doesn't if just whistling past the grave yard.

At Washington Post I defend Trump's win. Here I defend Hillary's.

Because we are screwed either way.

Posted by: petunia at October 27, 2016 02:33 PM (VoCyE)

97 Well Mr. Adams - welcome to the party. As Homer Simpson said when he got to Alaska and they handed him $1,000: "it's about time!"

My only quibbles: One - as someone above said - the quote : "I don't know who has the best policies?" The deuce you say! And Two - as to Trump support being 40% - I think there are lots and lots of hidden Trumpistas like me - and we are getting more and more pissed every day. its a lot more than 40%. We have not spoken up because of so many of us being in deep blue states where the bullying is relentless and disgusting. No. We remain silent. We will be heard in November. Yes we will.

Posted by: Publius Redux at October 27, 2016 02:33 PM (Fb9aZ)

98 Many of the Morons were offended by Adam's tweet. They are on the string at Twitchy too.

I wasn't offended, I just think he's off target with the IS tweet. They're incompetent, sloppy, and juvenile, whether they strike or don't has no bearing on our politics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:22 PM (39g3+)



I read it as tongue in cheek, but I guess that's not what it was. He said there is more to come.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (qCMvj)

99 It's back....

Posted by: deplorable donna at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (O2RFr)

100 And you know what? I don't blame people for wanting to use that power for themselves. That is human nature. We are cruel, vicious beasts. But that doesn't make it right.

Its not surprising, but I sure do blame people for doing it, because its wrong. Power is a tool to be used in the service of others, period. Using it in any other way is evil and wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (39g3+)

101 Since I've missed the last thread. Here is what looks to be the link to the original Che Che. Apparently it was Jack M.

minx.cc:1080/?post=199163
Posted by: Buzzion at October 27, 2016 02:08 PM (z/Ubi)

It's amazing that virtually nothing has changed in the ten years that have elapsed since that thread was posted.

Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (DmxjT)

102 Maybe it was said. SJW's are also giving his new book 1 star on Amazon. Of course, destroy his livelihood. His ability to even be heard. I'm buying his damn book.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'more cowbell please' at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (vP09u)

103 >>>Posted by: Dr. Zaius MD at October 27, 2016 02:31 PM (Y/VkU)

That was a movie dying to be made in Smell-O-Vision.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy, drinking 🍷 with Winona at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (LhdNI)

104
Trump needs to tell his rally-goers to get all their neighbors and family to vote before a Clinton voter steals their voter info and casts a vote in their name before they do.

This "Vote Early" bullshit is just Vote Early, Vote Often.


It gives the Democrats a whole month to play shenanigans with the voter rolls.

Posted by: Soothsayer Wu at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (rFQmw)

Posted by: Soothsayer Wu at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (rFQmw)

106 Well done, ace.

This election can't be over soon enough. No matter the outcome, although I do hope Trump wins. But I'm fed up.

National Review, which I really used to like, has become almost completely unreadable. VDH and Andy McCarthy are about the only two I still read over there.

Posted by: bluebell at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (uHcnA)

107 Dack -- I feel like I should reference luggage now.

Dr. Zaius -- You're not an MD. You got your PhD from a no-account Orangutan University's Ag offshoot, majoring in "Forbidden Zone Studies".

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (7zeA4)

108 Darrel Issa and Trey Gowdy will get right on it. They have some more hearings scheduled for November 3rd ... 2063. At 4:30pm.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 27, 2016 02:33 PM (zc3Db)


Even better the majority of GOP committee members won't show, and all the Dems will, and guess how those hearings and votes will go?

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (tewYv)

109 They have some more hearings scheduled for November 3rd ... 2063. At 4:30pm.

What a coincidence, that's the same time the plumber is coming.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 27, 2016 02:35 PM (QQ+il)

110 It's nice listening to Trump.The crowd's enthusiasm cheers me up.
He is sticking to the teleprompter.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:35 PM (Om16U)

111 Cannibal Bob, Moki and I left you notes at the bottom of the last thread.

Posted by: bluebell at October 27, 2016 02:35 PM (uHcnA)

112 Went shooting today. Wore my "Deplorable" T shirt, got great feedback in several stores I went into. I figure we have to be in their face more.

Posted by: lynndh at October 27, 2016 02:35 PM (DaWUf)

113
if this is true, they need to grow up

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:28 PM (qCMvj)

That's what seems to have happened to CAC. Has a biracial kid and a black wife and took the whole "Alt Right Nazis!!!!" thing to heart...

(At least that's what I would like to think happened and not the other explanation, which is that he's another sellout who wants to have a seat at the UniParty table.)

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 02:35 PM (u0lmX)

114 The IRS, by its own admission, targeted individual Americans based on their political views.

And no one - NO ONE - at the IRS paid a price for this.

PAID a Price? Shit they got a Bonus!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 27, 2016 02:36 PM (zp+j1)

115 1.) I hate Hillary. I cannot justify any principled vote that results in rewarding her with the presidency.
2.) Trump pisses off all the right people.
3.) He's right on a few issues (which is more than I can say for his opponent.)

I can't stay home, and I'll be damned if I vote for that poor sot Gary Johnson. So I'm voting Trump. And honestly, it doesn't require me to hold my nose as tightly as did voting for John McCain in 2008.

Posted by: Sam In Va at October 27, 2016 02:36 PM (bNi5D)

116 "There is no Trumpism. Trump is a candidate, not a movement."

Says you.

If Trump loses (which I don't expect to happen), what kind of nominee will we get in 2020?

It still won't be from the GOPe. And there aren't enough "Constitutional Conservatives" and/or SoCons.

You don't have to call it "Trumpism" but it will mostly be what Trump's running on now -- being the anti-Obama. In our hypothetical, in four years it'll be the anti-Hillary.

I'd call it "America First" but that name got taken, unfortunately.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 02:36 PM (r1fLd)

117
The Beast is promising "affordable" college education and relief from student debt. And best of all kids, it will all be free!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2016 02:36 PM (493sH)

118 At Washington Post I defend Trump's win. Here I defend Hillary's.

We expect nothing less.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 27, 2016 02:36 PM (QQ+il)

119 What was Adams' tweet?

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:36 PM (Om16U)

120 It's back....

Posted by: deplorable donna

Yes it is and making no sense whatsoever.

Posted by: Cheri at October 27, 2016 02:37 PM (oiNtH)

121 Lord knows, the Clinton SOP in all things is bully, bully, bully. Its a career constant, for both Hillary and Bill, alongside self-aggrandizement and lust for power.

Dolly Kyle tells the story in her book about Bill's first reaction, when (back in his presidency) she called him at the White House to tell him a reporter was in town asking questions. He didn't offer help, sympathy or try to strategize with her. Instead he threatened her first thing: "We will destroy you if you cooperate" she claims he said, right off the bat.

Posted by: MTF at October 27, 2016 02:37 PM (/m8T6)

122 Wikileaks items that might help with the independents or thinking Dems

*Hillary accused Trump of inciting violence, even as she funded that violence (hired bullies, to make Trump voters look like bullies, and lied about it)

*Clinton camp was discussing prep for the October "swift boating" back in the primaries (lining up the women back then, like fat beauty queen prepped by team Hillary) Uses media to give hours to lying "victims", buried Wikileaks stories

*Hillary thought she could get away with "it", Obama used pseudonym, lied to US. (exposes her bullying/bribing of her staff, and the agencies, to break the law)

Hillary is exposed as the Thug, the Liar, the Crook ... all with a smile and a cackle. Her friend Merkel is a like minded thug, tearing apart Germany.

Deep state, shadow government ... well entrenched is the deeper story, that enables the bullying to be so coordinated and widespread, with no reprisal. Only whistle blowers face reprisal.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 27, 2016 02:37 PM (AHlb3)

123 85:

the irs and the california a.g. actions and the wisconsin stormtroopers and the list goes on...

far beyond bullying on social media.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 27, 2016 02:37 PM (WTSFk)

124 I will volunteer to escort Taylor Swift to the reeducation camp.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 27, 2016 02:37 PM (QM5S2)

125 I'd call it "America First" but that name got taken, unfortunately.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 02:36 PM (r1fLd)


I think "America Foremost" is still available.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 27, 2016 02:37 PM (zc3Db)

126 "77 Scott Adams is deliberately trying to nullify his own "endorsement". That's why he keeps switching up. I think he's saying, "Don't be an idiot. It doesn't matter who I endorse. If you really care it's probably because you want to use it as a cudgel against me after the election."

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 02:29 PM (7zeA4) "

Not quite I think, his endorsement of Hillary was always tongue in cheek, for his own personal safety, and the Johnson endorsement was as well, to avoid blow back while the various sexual harassment victims were being paraded out. He telegraphed this post about a week in advance, and the coordinated attacks on him from the left and #nevertrump really picked up over that time, he was trending on facebook earlier for being ridiculed for suggesting that ISIS might prefer Hillary.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at October 27, 2016 02:37 PM (Uy8SG)

127 Petunia, you did read the original post, didn't you? "The bullies" who have actual policy influence aren't voting Trump.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 27, 2016 02:38 PM (1c1wW)

128 Is petunia a troll?

Or did someone spike my Val-U-Rite again?

Posted by: Bruce at October 27, 2016 02:38 PM (8ikIW)

129 The Beast is promising "affordable" college education and relief from student debt. And best of all kids, it will all be free!!!!
==========================

And there will be doughnuts! Free doughnuts!

Posted by: MTF at October 27, 2016 02:38 PM (/m8T6)

130 It's nice listening to Trump.The crowd's enthusiasm cheers me up.
He is sticking to the teleprompter.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:35 PM (Om16U)




Except for that one part where he said, if you don't vote for me I'm going to come into your dreams and throw you in jail because I just discovered I have the power to do that.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2016 02:38 PM (493sH)

131
But if Trump wins the bullies win.

You have the mind of a child.

You shouldnt be allowed to vote to take my freedom.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2016 02:38 PM (rFQmw)

132 petunia is long time troll

not to be confused with begonia

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:39 PM (Om16U)

133 It's back....

Posted by: deplorable donna

Yes it is and making no sense whatsoever.
Posted by: Cheri at October 27, 2016 02:37 PM (oiNtH)

-------------------

Getting thrippy, you mean.

Posted by: bluebell at October 27, 2016 02:39 PM (uHcnA)

134
And you know what? I don't blame people for wanting to use that power
for themselves. That is human nature. We are cruel, vicious beasts. But
that doesn't make it right.



Its not surprising, but I sure do blame people for doing it, because
its wrong. Power is a tool to be used in the service of others,
period. Using it in any other way is evil and wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:34 PM (39g3+)
============================================

Don't be taken by surprise when sinners sin. That's the nature of sinners. Which is why we need a savior. We cannot get out of this mess by political means, because it is not a political problem. We frantically chase politicians, when we should actually be chasing a king.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 02:39 PM (bpfzP)

135 Speaking of Scott Adams and bullying ...

This is how bad it's gotten. As I'm sure some of you are aware, one of the recent big video game releases is Civilization VI. If you're not familiar with the game, it's a simulation of taking a Stone Age tribe from the dawn of civilization into the Space Age and beyond. Obviously, it takes a loooong time to play an average session of it. Part of the game is advancing your civ with various technologies, and for the last few iterations of the game those technologies have been accompanied by a quotation from a famous or historical person. Scott Adams gets one in this game.

This has caused various screaming meemies on the net to completely freak out. Never mind that we're talking about five seconds out of a game that will consume dozens of hours at minimum; that's just too much for these people to tolerate.

Heat Street has a decent summary of the episode if you don't care to troll through left wing Twitter feeds.

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at October 27, 2016 02:39 PM (T9DQN)

136 Is petunia a troll?

Or did someone spike my Val-U-Rite again?




Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 02:39 PM (AoLFQ)

137 not to be confused with begonia

They're all Average Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 27, 2016 02:39 PM (QQ+il)

138 I will volunteer to escort Taylor Swift to the reeducation camp.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 27, 2016 02:37 PM (QM5S2)





Slick Willie: The hell you will. This camp commandant needs a...uhhh..personal assistant.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2016 02:40 PM (493sH)

139 Think I will switch over to the Pirate Party. Hardest thing so far is getting a krautish gurgle in my Arrrrrr.

Main reason to change is I've not been getting as much booty lately.

Posted by: Dread Pirate Agnew at October 27, 2016 02:40 PM (FtrY1)

140 I will volunteer to escort Taylor Swift to the reeducation camp.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 27, 2016 02:37 PM (QM5S2
========================

You could name your broomstick "Taylor Swift" and get the same look. She is one oddly skinny young woman.

Posted by: MTF at October 27, 2016 02:40 PM (/m8T6)

141 What was Adams' tweet?
Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:36 PM (Om16U)


http://bit.ly/2efxsyB

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:40 PM (qCMvj)

142 fucking trolls

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 27, 2016 02:40 PM (/CIN4)

143 Hillary accused Trump of inciting violence, even as she funded that violence (hired bullies, to make Trump voters look like bullies, and lied about it)

Ace could do a movie review-length post just on this topic: things Hillary accused Trump of doing and being... which she already was and does. Its a Democrat standby but with Wikileaks I don't know if its working any more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:40 PM (39g3+)

144 **looks at clock**

Well, time to go drinking and forget this day ever happened.

See you all tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 27, 2016 02:41 PM (X6fMO)

145 National Review, which I really used to like, has become almost
completely unreadable. VDH and Andy McCarthy are about the only two I
still read over there.

---
i gave up and closed my tab for Paterico... it was all #NeverTrump all the time.

couldn't even get him to weigh in on local judicial elections, as he was too busy slagging Trump...

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 27, 2016 02:41 PM (2fWgq)

146 After recent revelation from WikiLeaks and Project Veritas about our ruling class, I'm not on board with this at all:

https://tinyurl.com/zlczd9w

Our government is expanding secret drone bases around the world.

If our entire form of government hadn't been explicitly revealed to be such a massive con - maybe, maybe.

But the crop of remorseless, shameless, power corrupted con artists we have over us now...

Not a chance. We should not be doing this. I don't believe them anymore for the reasons they are doing this. They aren't doing this for us. They are doing this for 'them'. Nothing will change my mind about that.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 27, 2016 02:41 PM (4ng05)

147 Hillary and Michelle are on CNN now. ANOTHER speech at a university. It seems as if that's the only place she can pack in a crowd. Sucks for her that youth turnout is being pegged at 50%
Trump's people put up a social network notice that a rally is going to happen in a couple of hours and the place gets packed.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2016 02:31 PM (vvKUi)

Breitbart has an article about Hillary campaigning in Lake Worth Flordia.(Um, Disneyland? Why Lake Worth?) Anyway, the gist of it is a twitter video that some blogger took of Hillary needing someone to help her step up one step onto a riser box.

Kind of meh. There is no handrail, etc. and it is about an 18 inch step which is significant for someone as short as she is. So having her SS detail take her hand and help her up isn't a big deal, it would be a death sentence for an agent to stand there and let her fall off of it or struggle to get on it.

What is more weird about the video is the bizarre, high pitched screaming coming from her syncophants. They were tagged as an overflow crowd(uh huh), not sure what size building the rally was held. Might have been a union hall for all I know.

These people sound like a bunch of 13 year olds at a Hanson concert. Or a junior high who won a visit from Justin Timberlake.

The Trump events I've attended greets him with a lot of applause and whistles and Trump Trump. No shrieking teenagers.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 27, 2016 02:41 PM (oDUj/)

148 Sausage--

CVI is out? Sheeit, maybe I'll just play that rather than...this other game that nobody can win.

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 02:42 PM (7zeA4)

149 http://bit.ly/2efxsyB
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:40 PM (qCMvj)

The embedded link, a response to Adam's tweet I guess, leads to a dead link.
So I still don't know.
I guess he said something about ISIS and Hillary?

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:42 PM (Om16U)

150 I've had a feeling Scott Adams has been writing his own narrative the last year or so. I've been expecting this 'final endorsement' for a while.

Not a criticism, just an observation.

I am very strongly anti-bullying. But I also believe in attacking my and my countries enemies. When it comes to that, I don't take any weapons off the table.

They started this, we should finish it. Verbally, for as long as that works. Not sure if that will work in California anymore, for example.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 27, 2016 02:42 PM (sh70B)

151 >>>Right wing Social Justice Warrioring is still Social Justice Warrioring, you Millennial idiots, and you much-older-and-should-certainly-know-better morons

Oh heavens I hope he moron like George Will and not Moron like me.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 27, 2016 02:42 PM (voOPb)

152 The IRS, by its own admission, targeted individual Americans based on their political views.

And no one - NO ONE - at the IRS paid a price for this.

PAID a Price? Shit they got a Bonus
=============================

And it is still ongoing, don't forget. They didn't even stop.

Posted by: MTF at October 27, 2016 02:42 PM (/m8T6)

153 " . . . an actual threat to the social freedom of every citizen in America."

And that is where we are and have never been before.

Team Trump needs to get on the airwaves with this, somehow. His handlers need to write quotes he can say that emphasize this loudly and clearly.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 27, 2016 02:42 PM (U6f54)

154
I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter, Maaria, as I just did a moment ago.

"Baba, I had a scary dream," she said pitifully, hugging me tight. "About Donald Trump. He was so mean to us. He had a scary face, like a zombie or something."

I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why Donald Trump is a filthy dirty dog of a kaffir deserving of torture and death. "Donald Trump is the spawn of an ifrit, Honey, which are enormous demons with wings of fire."

I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult - the rage and feelings of helplessness were just too much. Maaria's lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears.

"Daddy" she said, "why in the hell did you spell my name 'Maaria' with two 'a's'? All the kids at school laugh about it and go, 'MAAAAria! MAAAAria!' like they're extras or something in 'West Side Story'. It's fucking embarrassing. What are you, retarded?"

Well, that was it for me. She just fell into my arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes. And then I strangled her, of course, because what man would allow his daughter to talk to him so impertinently?

Posted by: Belial, All About The Jihad at October 27, 2016 02:43 PM (OGbEB)

155 You could name your broomstick "Taylor Swift" and get the same look. She is one oddly skinny young woman.

Yeah but she's naturally that way instead of starved and freakish. I was a total beanpole skeleton until around age 30, I grew up skinny as a rail. Some folks are just that way, and she has a pretty face, I think.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:43 PM (39g3+)

156 They're all Average Joe.

I hear he does this certain thing by choice.

Posted by: tuck socks? at October 27, 2016 02:43 PM (2WoCi)

157 i gave up and closed my tab for Paterico... it was all #NeverTrump all the time.

couldn't even get him to weigh in on local judicial elections, as he was too busy slagging Trump...

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 27, 2016 02:41 PM (2fWgq)

Paterico lost me with his sanctimonious intellectualsplaining in the last election.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 27, 2016 02:43 PM (4ng05)

158 You 'rons and 'ettes with dogs, can't you bring them out to take a leak on petunia, begonia and any other flowery dimwits that might show up?

My dogs used to love pissing on flowerbeds.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 02:44 PM (u0lmX)

159 To cater to my sadistic side I listen to Beck while getting ready in the morning. Listening to someone lose their sanity is fascinating to me.

This morning: Newt bad - MeAgain good.
Trump MAY be a sexual predator.
Trump supporters live in an
alternate universe without
principles.
Egg McMuffin for the win

Posted by: Cheri at October 27, 2016 02:44 PM (oiNtH)

160 troyriser, that's hilarious

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:44 PM (Om16U)

161 Scott Adams was coy about an actual endorsement of Trump because he didn't want to have his Day Job get hurt.

Well, it did get hurt, so he came out of the closet.

His speaking engagements drying up may have more to do with the people doing the hiring not wanting the hassle of protesters than their being anti-Trump, which I think is even worse.

Milo gets cancelled a lot, but he gets hired a lot precisely because he brings heat and frisson. Scott Adams, not so much.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 02:44 PM (r1fLd)

162 Says you.

If Trump loses (which I don't expect to happen), what kind of nominee will we get in 2020?

It still won't be from the GOPe. And there aren't enough "Constitutional Conservatives" and/or SoCons.

You don't have to call it "Trumpism" but it will mostly be what Trump's running on now -- being the anti-Obama. In our hypothetical, in four years it'll be the anti-Hillary.

I'd call it "America First" but that name got taken, unfortunately.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 02:36 PM (r1fLd)


Yeah, says me. The Tea Party was a movement, there were lots of candidates associated with it. It's dead now, killed of by the GOPe. Trump is a candidate that is an outgrowth of that.

Because underneath the veneer of Constitutional Principles, was really folks who wanted to not be bullied. That's why the Gadsden Flag ended up the rallying symbol - Don't Tread On Me.

After the glorious flameout and turning of bright lights in the Tea Party, the idea that politeness gets you no respect began to take hold. Trump is an expression of that - not the other way around.

As for 2020, I don't even know who "we" will be then. If Trump wins, the GOP gets a little bit of a renewal of its lease on life, winning is soothing balm. Losing, on the other hand, will rip what is left up. Like ace, I think a lot of people are just fed up. There will probably still be a rump GOPe pushing Ryan or some other milksop as candidate, and then there will be some other party, who knows what it will be called, who will have an even bigger bull for the China shop.

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:44 PM (tewYv)

163 moviegique:

Yep, came out on 10/21. I haven't tried it myself -- I didn't care for Civ V, so I've been sticking with IV. Of course, I hated III, so there's every possibility they improved the formula.

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at October 27, 2016 02:44 PM (T9DQN)

164 This Scott Adams article and Ace's response are perhaps the most important essays of 2016.

And although I agree wholeheartedly in most respects, I'd like to address Ace's statement,

"I have noticed, with great chagrin, that many conservatives support the Social Bullying Model -- the Social Justice Warrior coordinated group pile-on mass-shaming -- when it's someone else's ox being gored.

I don't. Enough. Enough of it all."


I personally never engage in Social Bullying, but your argument against it here is the same argument that Gandhi used when he said, "An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind."

Uh, yes, Mr. Gandhi. That's the whole point.

Although half the liberals in the Bay Area have that Gandhi quote on a bumpsticker, and are immensely smug about its wisdom, I contend that it is a disastrous moral error.

If, on some island, a cruel bully goes around blinding everyone until he is the only one left with sight, and he uses this advantage to enslave all his blinded victims top do his bidding, and then by chance one blind victim clutching a sharp rock manages to grab ahold of the bully, do you and Gandhi think he should refrain from blinding him as well, because "we should turn the other cheek" and we "don't want to leave the whole world blind" and "just because someone else does something evil doesn't mean you should do the same evil"?

In some cases, such as my scenario, hell yes, blind that motherfucker, not so much that he "gets a dose of his own medicine," but so that he can no longer perpetrate evil because his advantage has been taken away.

So, if some leftist opens himself up to social shaming because he has blundered, while I will not participate myself, I'm not going to complain too vociferously if he gets taken down a notch.

Ace, you yourself say that our side is losing because for too long we have played by the Marquess of Quensberry Rules while the other side is in a street brawl. So, now, if they want to go the Full Alinsky, then the Full Alinsky it shall be. Pandora's Box has been opened.

Posted by: zombie at October 27, 2016 02:44 PM (jBuUi)

165 Dilbert engineered my dreams.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2016 02:45 PM (IqV8l)

166
Patterico shit the bed, too?


Ace might be the Last Conservative Standing when this is all over. And he'll have us to thank for pulling him back from the brink a few months ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2016 02:46 PM (rFQmw)

167 I agree with zombie. If no holds are barred then it goes for both sides.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:46 PM (Om16U)

168

the Trifecta

RIGHT ANGLE: TRUMP'S GETTYSBURG ADDRESS

https://www.billwhittle.com/right-angle/right-angle-trumps-gettysburg-address

I never heard the actual speech.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:46 PM (qCMvj)

169 >If you have a Trump sign in your lawn, they will steal it.

Sign stealing is a tried and true political tactic on both sides. Politics has always been dirty.

Other than that, I pretty much agree. I read this lady's book about shame, and that's really all this is - a bunch of your friends/family/associates trying to shame everyone else into voting the way they want. It's so obnoxious.

And I don't like Donald Trump, so it makes it even more obnoxious because I have no desire to defend him.

Posted by: Lea at October 27, 2016 02:46 PM (lIU4e)

170 Paterico was one of BKs victims; in fact, he got "Swatted."

It's nice to know he thinks things won't get any worse under a Hill administration and he'll have full civil rights, totally.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 02:47 PM (u0lmX)

171 Want to do something legal and non violent that will make you happy?

Get out and vote for Trump.

Posted by: rd at October 27, 2016 02:47 PM (Rtl0g)

172 Folks, everyone knew with Hillary it was a scorched earth election. Hell, Hillary knew that. We knew that in 2012 and Romney came up short in the testicle department. Two reasons to vote Trump - He Fights and He Will Restore Laughter to our Nation. I'm all in on fighting and laughing. I will use any device to kill the postmodern Puritans that infest us. Trump is the wooden stake and the silver bullet.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 27, 2016 02:47 PM (vV/gB)

173 Don't underestimate the desire to wipe the smug look off of Mika and the other media idiots as a motivation for voting for Trump.

Posted by: jwest at October 27, 2016 02:48 PM (Zs4uk)

174 @vm -- Adams said if ISIS didn't attack before election day, it's because they prefer Hillary.

I get the logic. I don't know if we know enough about ISIS to say that they hold the same understanding of US elections that we do, so I don't know if it's true. But that link goes to a Twitchy page which is nothing but people calling him crazy and being obtuse.

Which, yeah.

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 02:48 PM (7zeA4)

175 There is no defending a Hillary win. This is a woman who proudly supports genocide. This is a woman who deliberately violates the very Federal Laws she desires to write and enforce. This is a woman who has used the pulpit of power to destroy women whose only crime is to be raped or molested by the bag of shit that Hillary married. This is a woman who destroyed a 12 year old girl with innuendo in lieu of evidence. The only thing Hillary could do to improve this nation is to slip the mortal coil and leave the rest of us alone.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at October 27, 2016 02:48 PM (7N6ox)

176 We cannot get out of this mess by political means, because it is not a political problem. We frantically chase politicians, when we should actually be chasing a king.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck


Yeah, about that. Wasn't the Lord unhappy to hear the Israelites calling out for a King, rather than simply following Him?

Unless you refer to the true King of Kings, which, that's cool.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at October 27, 2016 02:48 PM (9krrF)

177 Two reasons to vote Trump - He Fights and He Will Restore Laughter to our Nation. I'm all in on fighting and laughing.
================================================



Most persuasive argument to date.


Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 02:49 PM (bpfzP)

178
The list of Betrayers and Cowards on the Right is so long now it will be easier to make a list of who's still with Us.

AoS

Anyone else?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2016 02:49 PM (rFQmw)

179 Hillary on Tv now?

Everyone. "Pass out, pass out, pass out."

Use the power of your mind. Focus

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 27, 2016 02:49 PM (+oWEl)

180 Found a long Che Che comment if anyone wants to get the styling.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=354811#c23240371

"I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I did just a moment ago. She couldn't understand why Brian Williams would lie about being shot down in Iraq when so many things are wrong in this country. "Doesn't Mr. Williams care about the truth anymore?" she asked pitifully.

I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why Brian Williams would abandon his integrity. "Honey, I think his boss, Mr. Capus, told Mr. Williams to lie about his experience to make everyone realize just how horrible the illegal war that President Bush lied us into really was. If someone as important and invaluable to all of us as Mr. Williams could be placed in danger by the lying President Bush, perhaps that would finally lead to the impeachment and arrest President Bush. In fact, we should be thanking Mr. Williams for so nobly sacrificing his own integrity in order to make everyone aware of President Bush's evil actions......"

I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult - the rage and feelings of helplessness were just too much. I think my daughter could tell something was wrong. I found myself at a loss for words - nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit "Honey, I just don't know - I don't know what's going on in this country anymore...."

When I finished, her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears. "Daddy," she said, "Why are the Republicans doing this to our country?" Well, that was it for me. I finally fell apart. She just fell into my arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes.

For once, she had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I think it's just too much, but seeing the strength in my daughter's voice helped to get me through.
Posted by: Che Che's Father at February 06, 2015 12:56 PM (5UYtO)
"


10 year old memes FTW. For behold I have located ace's original post from June 13, 2006. Reminder don't post on ancient threads

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=181519

Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2016 02:49 PM (z/Ubi)

181
"Sign stealing is a tried and true political tactic on both sides."

Are there people swiping Hillary signs? Did anybody swipe Barrett signs during the Walker recall? If so, I haven't heard of those incidents - not even from leftists.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (u0lmX)

182 Two reasons to vote Trump - He Fights and He Will Restore Laughter to our Nation. I'm all in on fighting and laughing.
================================================



Most persuasive argument to date.


-----------

I think a good ad would have been a lecturing Clinton followed by "Do you want this person giving the SOTU address every year?"

Posted by: SH at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (gmeXX)

183 Petunia - 96
This is a complete mess.



As for me. If Trump wins the bullies win. Period.



I hate Hillary, not voting for either. But if Trump wins the bullies win.



Not okay.



Neither is it okay if crime does pay... which will be confirmed win
Hillary wins, but crime has paid for a long time now pretending it
doesn't if just whistling past the grave yard.



At Washington Post I defend Trump's win. Here I defend Hillary's.



Because we are screwed either way.

______________________________________________

Petunia

Your concern over "Trump Bullying" is:

[ ] Noted

[ ] Not noted

[ X ] Made up bullshit because you are a troll

But thanks for playing - please pick up your version of the play at home version of "Trump 2016. Because F*ck you. That's why." on the way out.

Posted by: Publius Redux at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (Fb9aZ)

184 I have become convinced that, one way or the other, this will be the last election I vote in.....

Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (DmxjT)

185 I was a Tea Partier, but it lacked organization, almost by definition, and national scale figures. Which is why it was partly co-opted, and the rest got strangled in its crib.

But it did lead to changes in the make-up of Congress that will mostly if not entirely last past this election cycle.

If Trump loses (which he won't) those he motivated this cycle aren't going away.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (r1fLd)

186 I've seen otherwise intelligent people say they have to support Clinton, not because they're reflective Democrats, but...and there it kind of stops.

People are becoming dumber and dumber. As I've said, they are deliberately ensuring Clinton's future at the expense of their own. They will never find full-time work, or affordable health care, or pay their bills, but by god they voted Democrat.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (8mIih)

187 Ace might be the Last Conservative Standing when this is all over. And he'll have us to thank for pulling him back from the brink a few months ago.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2016 02:46 PM (rFQmw)


I like to think that when Trump announces his press secretary, Ace will owe the job (in part) to our council and advice.

Posted by: jwest at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (Zs4uk)

188 the same argument that Gandhi used when he said, "An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind."

That, BTW, is one of the most retarded arguments ever.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (zc3Db)

189 Why am I getting all this hate mail? What have I done to you poor mortals?

Posted by: OdinsTears96 at October 27, 2016 02:51 PM (I6SOt)

190
Trump should appeal to Millenials at the end of every rally with one sentence: Hey, Dummies, don't you realize you're voting your freedom away?!?

Then let them figure it out. Which they won't because they can't.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2016 02:51 PM (rFQmw)

191 10 year old memes FTW. For behold I have located ace's original post from June 13, 2006. Reminder don't post on ancient threads

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=181519

Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2016 02:49 PM (z/Ubi)


Sure, easy to say for a dead guy.

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:51 PM (tewYv)

192 At the University this morning saw a young cutie carring a sign about a discussion on Syria today. I'm betting it isn't about Muzzy crime invasion.

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2016 02:51 PM (sWbjH)

193 Democrat voters prefer Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WI) to lead the Republican Party over 2016 GOP nominee Donald Trump, according to a recent NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll.

?????

AND WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT DEMS THINK?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 27, 2016 02:51 PM (zp+j1)

194 Sausage--

Heh. Loved C1, C2 but C3 most of all. Probably because C3 was the one I most got into, and could actually play at Monarch or something. I thought C4 was okay but I somehow couldn't get into C5. I figured I'd rather go back to C4 and C5 before bothering with C6.

(While I have hundreds of books to read, and might actually get through them in this life, I have hundreds of computer games as well, and will most certainly NOT.)

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 02:51 PM (7zeA4)

195 Are there people swiping Hillary signs? Did anybody
swipe Barrett signs during the Walker recall? If so, I haven't heard
of those incidents - not even from leftists.

Posted by: Donna and V.


Daddy, I had a nightmare that bad men were stealing Hillary signs....

Posted by: Bruce at October 27, 2016 02:51 PM (8ikIW)

196 174 @vm -- Adams said if ISIS didn't attack before election day, it's because they prefer Hillary.

--

It seems logical.

And she is their Beast-Mother

I will say I have been praying that there be no more attacks this year.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:52 PM (Om16U)

197 "you much-older-and-should-certainly-know-better morons.



Posted by Ace"

And I don't think he's using that term affectionately.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at October 27, 2016 02:52 PM (BcNLK)

198 To cater to my sadistic side I listen to Beck while getting ready in the morning. Listening to someone lose their sanity is fascinating to me.

This morning: Newt bad - MeAgain good.
Trump MAY be a sexual predator.
Trump supporters live in an
alternate universe without
principles.
Egg McMuffin for the win
Posted by: Cheri at October 27, 2016 02:44 PM (oiNtH)

Beck lost his sanity about six months ago. When he started with claiming that God had sent Ted Cruz to save us. And that maybe Ted Cruz was God or Jesus and we were rejecting Him.

I can't imagine how much longer his show is going to air. His numbers have to have fallen off a cliff, and he has to have sponsors who are ready to book.
I can seem him back on air on some obscure religious channel, supported by the Mormon church. Until he finally has to go back into rehab or the medical clinic or whatever he claims saved him from dying of brain shutdown last time.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 27, 2016 02:52 PM (oDUj/)

199 132 petunia is long time troll

not to be confused with begonia
Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:39 PM (Om16U)



I still think begonia is supposed to be someone attempting to parody petunia.

Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2016 02:52 PM (z/Ubi)

200 Are there people swiping Hillary signs? Did anybody
swipe Barrett signs during the Walker recall? If so, I haven't heard
of those incidents - not even from leftists.

-------------

Either sign swiping is occurring at a very fast rate or there are no signs (on either side) in my neighborhood to swipe.

Posted by: SH at October 27, 2016 02:52 PM (gmeXX)

201 "I have noticed, with great chagrin, that many conservatives support the Social Bullying Model -- the Social Justice Warrior coordinated group pile-on mass-shaming -- when it's someone else's ox being gored."

I have never liked this either, but I would note that, since the progressive SJWs started the trend of group pile-ons going back to Bork, that I do have a bit of schadenfreude when it comes back at the Left.

But I don't want any schadenfreude at all, I simply want fair and equal discourse. But that does not exist.

Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2016 02:52 PM (d5pE+)

202 I'm not going to bully, but I will fight back. And this has gone far beyond social media. It's become the MO of the DC establishment with the full weight and power of a lawless tyranny.

Yes. I will fight back with whatever means I have available.

Posted by: Soona at October 27, 2016 02:52 PM (Fmupd)

203 . If Trump wins, the GOP gets a little bit of a renewal of its lease on life....

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:44 PM (tewYv)


Odd. When I read this my mind did a short stop. I guess I don't associate the GOP with Trump anymore.

Posted by: gracepc at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (OU4q6)

204 Are there people swiping Hillary signs? ....
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (u0lmX)

No, because there aren't any in the wild.....

Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (DmxjT)

205 I think the left forgets how bullied people eventually snap, often violently.


Collectively across the rest, if we were to guage public anger on a 12 step scale, since the Doomsday clock is taken, I'd put the West at about step 10.



Step 12 is where people just throw up their hands, say 'F@ck it' and the mobs exact revenge.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (vvKUi)

206 Grammie- had me worried a bit. Cubbies win a World Series game and nothing from you post game.

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (sWbjH)

207 AND WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT DEMS THINK?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 27, 2016 02:51 PM (zp+j1)

As a general rule, if I find myself agreeing with them, I try to rethink my position, because I'm probably wrong.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (KUaJL)

208 Democrat voters prefer Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WI) to lead the Republican Party over 2016 GOP nominee Donald Trump, according to a recent NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll

Did they poll Republican voters who they wanted to lead the Democrat Party?

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (tewYv)

209 Are there people swiping Hillary signs? Did anybody swipe Barrett signs during the Walker recall? If so, I haven't heard of those incidents - not even from leftists.

Posted by: Donna and V.


Meh. Sign stealing or defacing is just harmless, prank-level stuff. If only that were all we had to worry about ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (zc3Db)

210 Yeah, about that. Wasn't the Lord unhappy to hear the Israelites calling out for a King, rather than simply following Him?



Unless you refer to the true King of Kings, which, that's cool.





Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at October 27, 2016 02:48 PM (9krrF)
=============================================

Yes indeed. God Almighty himself wanted to lead the people of Israel, but they wanted an earthly king, like the nations around them. God warned them of all the liabilities of having to answer to human authority - basically: "They will enslave you" But they insisted and got their king. Not too many years went by until they found themselves slaves. Moral of the story: they're gonna sell you down the river.

So yes - follow the good king. The King of Kings.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (bpfzP)

211
I get a kick out of "Republicans" who miss the good old days with an honorable man like George bush in the White House or as a candidate.

Besides being asinine, this is extra-funny because these are the same people who were the first to run away from George Bush anytime the Media concocted anything negative on him.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (rFQmw)

212 Democrat voters prefer Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WI) to lead the Republican Party over 2016 GOP nominee Donald Trump, according to a recent NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll.

I would like everyone to stop and gape in awe at the galaxy-spanning pointless stupidity in that sentence.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (B+qrE)

213 Put differently, there was an argument that Trump never got a majority of actual R primary voters. But when you added in the votes for the other anti-GOPe candidates it was well over 60%. I don't see this changing.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 02:54 PM (r1fLd)

214 Dems preferred Michaels as Republican Minority Leader to Newt as Speaker.

Read that again to see if you can figure out why.

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:54 PM (tewYv)

215 Did they poll Republican voters who they wanted to lead the Democrat Party?

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (tewYv)


The Pied Piper.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 27, 2016 02:54 PM (zc3Db)

216 It's pretty remarkable that a cartoonist has become one of the most incisive (and accurate!) political pundits during this campaign. He has gotten it right about Trump from Day 1.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 27, 2016 02:54 PM (zoehZ)

217 Getting thrippy, you mean.



Posted by: bluebell at October 27, 2016 02:39 PM (uHcnA)




It's thrippy to troll around
To troll around
On Hillary's dime
It's thrippy! It's thrippy!

Posted by: Country Singer at October 27, 2016 02:54 PM (uiwCw)

218 The other argument I hear is that a foreign leader will say something mean to President Trump and so he will nuke them, whereas Hillary has more restraint. I'm so disappointed in how Republicans have handled all of this. Trump shoots off his mouth too much, but I haven't seen anything to indicate he would take a Twitter war nuclear.

Posted by: David at October 27, 2016 02:55 PM (d4k1A)

219 I've seen otherwise intelligent people say they have to support Clinton, not because they're reflective Democrats, but...and there it kind of stops.

People are becoming dumber and dumber. As I've said, they are deliberately ensuring Clinton's future at the expense of their own. They will never find full-time work, or affordable health care, or pay their bills, but by god they voted Democrat.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (8mIih)



because they continue to believe the mantra that it's the Republican's fault.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 02:55 PM (qCMvj)

220 ACE: Thank you for pointing out how the #NeverTrump crowd only condemns ugliness among the GOP/right/Trump crowd. Though piously claiming they'll not vote for Hillary, the NeverTrumpers only discourage Repubs from voting Trump but do not discourage Dems from voting Hillary. This is an extension of the principled loser philosophy that allows Dems to conduct Borkings and vote against GOP SCOTUS appointees while the GOP stays above the fray - and therefore hands the courts to the left. Effectively an extension of Failure Theater where GOP elites can pride themselves on being such noble losers while handing the left political victories.

Posted by: AstroBevo at October 27, 2016 02:55 PM (DZF+K)

221 187 Ace might be the Last Conservative Standing when this is all over. And he'll have us to thank for pulling him back from the brink a few months ago.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2016 02:46 PM (rFQmw)


I like to think that when Trump announces his press secretary, Ace will owe the job (in part) to our council and advice.
Posted by: jwest at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (Zs4uk)



I forgot to ask the horde if they can make a list of right wing writers, from most prominent to least, who have been unapologetically pro-Trump. It will be a short list.

Also, when Ace does get his office in the West Wing, let's hope he remembers his old buddies back on the ranch. There are going to be thousands of appointment jobs to fill and it would be a shame to waste them on turncoat bastards that are on some RNC list somewhere.

Posted by: jwest at October 27, 2016 02:55 PM (Zs4uk)

222 205 I think the left forgets how bullied people eventually snap, often violently.


Posted by: Stateless Infidel


Yes, the Trump movement is personified by that Australian fat kid relentlessly bullied by his classmates and who legendarily one day snapped and body-slammed his bullier on video. Most satisfying thing ever. We, as a nation, are that kid.

Posted by: zombie at October 27, 2016 02:55 PM (jBuUi)

223 When they were working on Civilization 4, they had lots of discussion on the game's forums about what should be in it, game designers asking for input.

My brother suggested Israel be one of the civilizations, since it has historically been such a powerful, influential, and historical force through the millennia. After all, they put the Iroquois in, who contributed nothing and accomplished nothing in their short culture. They have Aztecs and Maya. He was shouted down by an assortment of people who don't know history and those who hate Jews. Israel/Hebrews never made it into the game.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:55 PM (39g3+)

224 the same argument that Gandhi used when he said, "An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind."




Gandhi couldn't count. It'd leave the whole world full of one eyes.


Besides, if I poked out both your eyes, you couldn't find me to poke out mine. Pbbbbbbbbbttttttt!!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 02:56 PM (AoLFQ)

225 Grammie- had me worried a bit. Cubbies win a World Series game and nothing from you post game.

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (sWbjH)
========================================

Some stranger pushed me to the ground and forced gin down my throat. It might have been Trump.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 02:56 PM (bpfzP)

226 Nazis prefers that Chamberlain continue to lead Conservative Party according to a new poll.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 27, 2016 02:56 PM (QQ+il)

227 @176 And Samuel said, "Go then, each to his own city." Hebrew for GTFO.
All of history is a footnote to 1 Samuel.
Confectionaries, indeed.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 27, 2016 02:56 PM (H5rtT)

228 Scott Adams only wished his dong was as magnificent as mine. In case you missed it - and I don't know how you could have - I showed my marvelous wang to my fawning female media harem. And they loved it.



Google it, you wingnuts. Don't make me grab you by your pu$$y and force you to do it.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 27, 2016 02:56 PM (FEAjO)

229 Most satisfying thing ever. We, as a nation, are that kid.

We're not there, not quite yet. But if Trump loses, and they keep the pressure on? If Hillary continues Obama's radical leftist ramming of culture and using the government as a bludgeon against political enemies?

Then the body slam is coming.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:57 PM (39g3+)

230 Some stranger pushed me to the ground and forced gin down my throat. It might have been Trump.

-----------

So a new accusation.

You better rest up for the weekend.

Or just get primed for the weekend.

Either / or.

Posted by: SH at October 27, 2016 02:57 PM (gmeXX)

231 the same argument that Gandhi used when he said, "An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind."

That, BTW, is one of the most retarded arguments ever.Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (zc3Db)

I think Gandhi and the current Dali Lama are in a close tie for the most overrated spiritual leaders of any century, with maybe the edge going to the Dali Lama, whose every saying seems concocted by Writer #7 working overtime at the fortune cookie factory.

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2016 02:57 PM (OGbEB)

232 212 Democrat voters prefer Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WI) to lead the Republican Party over 2016 GOP nominee Donald Trump, according to a recent NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll.
___

Survey Monkey, huh?

Racist.

Posted by: Furious George at October 27, 2016 02:57 PM (77i7V)

233 More likely another Cubby fan, don't worry they will win another

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2016 02:58 PM (sWbjH)

234 "An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind."

That, BTW, is one of the most retarded arguments ever.

------------

How about 2 eyes for an eye. It will be tough to come after the other eye with no eye.

Posted by: SH at October 27, 2016 02:58 PM (gmeXX)

235 In before someone hates fucking survey monkeys.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 27, 2016 02:58 PM (QQ+il)

236 It's thrippy to troll around
To troll around
On Hillary's dime
It's thrippy! It's thrippy!



Hey thrippy
You're so fine
You're so fine you blow my mind
Hey thrippy!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 02:58 PM (AoLFQ)

237 I'd rather watch the weather channel than listen to Moochelle, but what exactly are those things on her outfit..? Oysters..?

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 02:58 PM (2JQBv)

238 Well this is depressing. Growing up, I unconsciously assumed, "it can't happen here". That's the worst part of this whole business. Being cured of that notion, realizing there is no reason why we shouldn't regress.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (mBYZv)

239 Why don't we elect Hillary as President of Venezuela and see how she does there?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (vV/gB)

240 I dumped a lot of people on Twitter because I couldn't stand their petulant need to post every snide Trump bashing meme and comment and almost never, ever criticize Hillary. It was like an obsession, every single topic and day was another opportunity to put a thumb in the eye of Donald Trump. I pinned a couple of them down on whether or not they actually wanted Hillary to lose. Few of them even responded. I had to just walk away. Some of them even used to post here as co bloggers.

Enough. You're clearly not in the same world I live in, fellas. Have a nice life, but have it somewhere not near me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (39g3+)

241 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 02:53 PM (B+qrE)

It really is magnificent in its width and breadth, and its own utter lack of self-awareness. I am absolutely gob-smacked that a sentient human being, with enough brain power to think and compose sentences, was also able to compile such a monument to imbecility.

Breathtaking.

Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (DmxjT)

242 WOW, Kaine event in Florida is cancelled.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (+oWEl)

243 Oysters..?

Loogies?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (QQ+il)

244 >Are there people swiping Hillary signs? Did anybody swipe Barrett signs during the Walker recall? If so, I haven't heard of those incidents - not even from leftists.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 02:50 PM (u0lmX)

I used to work in politics and people would talk about sign swiping. Not just national candidates. Both sides did it, with increasing frequency before the election.

I don't work in politics anymore so I can't say this election.

Posted by: Lea at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (lIU4e)

245 The GopE primary draw was katpiss, right. Good luck with that guys.

Posted by: Jean at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (2RVmA)

246 re 232: so what's the surprise? Doesn't Ryan usually give Obama what he wants?

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (2JQBv)

247 I think Gandhi and the current Dali Lama are in a close tie for the most overrated spiritual leaders of any century, with maybe the edge going to the Dali Lama, whose every saying seems concocted by Writer #7 working overtime at the fortune cookie factory.

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2016 02:57 PM (OGbEB)


I get a real kick out of the fact that the Dolly Lama, currently in his 17th incarnation or something, was so terrified of being killed by the CHinese that he ran away. I guess you can never really count on that 18th incarnation. There's a limit to everything.

I also get a kick out of the idea that a guy who has reached enlightenment (many lifetimes ago) needs glasses to read.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 27, 2016 03:00 PM (zc3Db)

248 Welp...looks like we have the print newspaper cartoonist constituency partially locked up. Tomorrow, we take the laundry detergent manufacturers of Toledo! On to victory!!!!

Posted by: ajmojo at October 27, 2016 03:00 PM (1H9ox)

249 AoS


Anyone else?
---
Emperor Misha at the Rot

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 27, 2016 03:00 PM (2fWgq)

250 re 242: because of climate change, maybe?

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:00 PM (2JQBv)

251 242 WOW, Kaine event in Florida is cancelled.

--

That's only because they are already so ahead in Florida he doesn't need to go.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 03:00 PM (Om16U)

252 How about 2 eyes for an eye. It will be tough to come after the other eye with no eye.

Posted by: SH


I can see you're where I am regarding "proportionate retaliation".

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (9krrF)

253 Did you guys notice Al Gore endorsed Hillary?

Seems like not a big deal but....

....if you recall, Bill did not endorse Gore in 2000 nor did Gore endorse Hillary in 2008. And up until very recently Gore withheld comments.

Basically, the Clintons and Gore hate each other.

So what changed? What was promised?

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (XfRKW)

254 I've been trying to figure out what common trait binds Clinton supporters together.
.............

I'm thinking it's Facebook and Starbucks.

Posted by: wth at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (HgMAr)

255 Why don't we elect Hillary as President of Venezuela and see how she does there?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (vV/gB)
================================================

Yes. Sort of a trial run. Someone could chronicle it in the form of a musical.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (bpfzP)

256 Gateway Pundit and Legal Insurrection as well...

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (2fWgq)

257 Wouldn't steal them but have thought to make a jail cell to put in front of one.

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (sWbjH)

258 Emperor Misha at the Rot

Posted by: redc1c4


Ha! Figures my old hangout would be Trump territory...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (9krrF)

259
In before someone hates fucking survey monkeys.

...

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (rFQmw)

260 Grammie 225

Some stranger pushed me to the ground and forced gin down my throat. It might have been Trump.

____________________________________________

As long as he didn't grab your puthy - then that is OK.

Normally, Hildery-Beast simply grabs her own throat and pours gin down it - but I digress.

_____________________________________________

Oh - love the che-che's daughter stuff btw - whoever is posting it above. Very funny. I do remember all that way back . I think we might, in light of Petunia and Begonia, start a Petunia/Begonia's daughter running comment. I am game if everyone else is.

Posted by: Publius Redux at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (Fb9aZ)

261 I've got whiplash, Ace.

One lengthy post, you're decrying your loyalty to a party that seems committed to losing and serial political idiocy, and you claim you're actually going to join the Democrats, if only to be on a winning side and avoid embarrassment/GOP futility/etc. I've seen at least two posts--lengthy, unambiguous posts--of this stripe.

The next, you're foursquare against the Democrats for pulling the kind of shit described in Adams' piece, and you're claiming that you've felt the same way for 2-3 years.

"A foolish consistency..." and all that, but I confess to being completely disoriented. Maybe it's this year. Anyway, strange stuff.

Posted by: General Zod at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (Bdeb0)

262 242 WOW, Kaine event in Florida is cancelled.

They couldn't round up 30 people?

Posted by: IC at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (a0IVu)

263 We're not there, not quite yet. But if Trump loses,
and they keep the pressure on? If Hillary continues Obama's radical
leftist ramming of culture and using the government as a bludgeon
against political enemies?



Then the body slam is coming.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:57 PM (39g3+)

I think when the debt bubble collapses, the welfare state disintegrates and all of those pension promises are revealed to be fairy dust, then we're just one incident, no matter how small, stupid, whatever away from people having their reason to go ballistic.

Hell, the West may go ballistic just because some SJW fakes a hate crime for sympathy and the sympathy bottle has already long run dry..



Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (vvKUi)

264 So what changed? What was promised?

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (XfRKW)


Head of Global Warming branch of CGI.

Job includes a fleet of Suburbans and a Gulfstream.

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (tewYv)

265 on lower screen on Fox news right now as Moochele speaks: "Need president who takes job seriously."

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (2JQBv)

266 Your defensiveness speaks volumes, Dilbert guy! Seems like someone has anger issues! I'm looking at you, Dilbert guy!

Hey, I've got something worth looking at! I'm slipping between the covers something I know will get you all hot and bothered and excited!

The covers of a book, silly! My new book, which you can order now on Amazon! What did you think I was talking about?

I bet you'll love my tight paragraphs and alert, perky prose!

I'm opening the kimono just for my dearest readers, baring myself to you in intimate page after intimate page!

And for my most ardent fans, I'm making a special, leather-bound offering just for you! Of my book, silly!

Posted by: MeAgain Kelly at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (hA1V+)

267 MeAgain's book is a riveting tell-all account by a true insider of cable news journalism.

Full disclosure: In return for providing this review, my wife received something of value.

Posted by: FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (hA1V+)

268 So what changed? What was promised?

Probably a pu-pu platter and a pint of General Tsao's chicken.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (B+qrE)

269 Our polling indicates that MeAgain's new book will be the most popular book ever published.

Posted by: Media Pollsters at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (hA1V+)

270 We regret to inform that Julian Assange has passed away.

He received a leaked copy of MeAgain's new book and in the midst of reading the brain-deadening text he lost consciousness and was unable to be revived.

Posted by: Wikileaks at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (hA1V+)

271 So what changed? What was promised?

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (XfRKW)
Gore's Solyndra Project, only with bigger and more routine federal largesse

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (7N6ox)

272

The Trifecta video ends on a positive note, for those of you that need that ray of sunshine in this election.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (qCMvj)

273 I am tired of being bullied by people who think Twitter matters. I am tired of news people, bloggers and others who use twitter thinking great masses of people use it or think it means anything. It is like those high school spam books.
I have a twitter account, I thought it would be useful to contact C-span. I don't think they pay attention to it unless it says what they are looking to read. I suspect many are paid trolls, we know some are. I just pay it no attention. And I am tired of newsers being all atwitter about it.

Posted by: Ruth H at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (l9C+M)

274 Chris Taylor--

I remember that, the Israel kerfuffle. Has Israel EVER been in Civ?

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (7zeA4)

275 Civ V is okay if you are war mongering. 1upt makes you use some strategy when yo decided to go to war.

You also need to promote wisely. Unless you are using English Long Bowmen, ignore those combat bonus promotions for your arches and get that extra range instead.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (d76uN)

276 The reason why the Clinton campaign is only going to colleges is because of their "free tuition" policy.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (+oWEl)

277
199 132 petunia is long time troll

not to be confused with begonia
Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 02:39 PM (Om16U)


I still think begonia is supposed to be someone attempting to parody petunia.
Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2016 02:52 PM (z/Ubi)

These people are beta and omega in their flower handles. Might as well select pansy. Pick an alpha plant name, like Snapdragon.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (FtrY1)

278 How about 2 eyes for an eye. It will be tough to come after the other eye with no eye.

A head for an eye, so they don't have a chance to even accidentally hurt someone else.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (YEelc)

279 WOW, Kaine event in Florida is cancelled.



Why? So many people show up it was a hazard?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (AoLFQ)

280 Hillary takes the Clinton Foundation money very seriously, thats why she needs to be president.

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (sWbjH)

281 265 on lower screen on Fox news right now as Moochele speaks: "Need president who takes job seriously."
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (2JQBv)


The Bernie people are starting to think that if they let Trump win, Moochele will run in 2020.

Posted by: jwest at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (Zs4uk)

282 Why don't we elect Hillary as President of Venezuela and see how she does there?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 27, 2016 02:59 PM (vV/gB)
================================================

Yes. Sort of a trial run. Someone could chronicle it in the form of a musical.


Fire can't burn pure carbon.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (B+qrE)

283 If by some act of God's mercy Trump wins, then I think a handfull of these people will double down and scream tantrum style about his horrific evil and pernicious nature until they become leftists. But the rest, I believe, will quietly shuffle their way back into the group and hope nobody brings it up ever again.

Nor should we, since we're all on the same side. I don't have to like the guy in the trench next to me. Just back him up when we're fighting the same enemy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (39g3+)

284 Basically, the Clintons and Gore hate each other.

So what changed? What was promised?

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (XfRKW)

Major cabinet post. Gore gets Department of Energy or Interior. Lots of money there for a savvy operator.

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (OGbEB)

285 re 262
WOW, Kaine event in Florida is cancelled.

They couldn't round up 30 people?

----

they did, but a judge ruled it cruel and unusual punishment so they were taken back to the detention center.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (2JQBv)

286
I get a kick out of "Republicans" who miss the good old days with an honorable man like George bush in the White House or as a candidate.

I think they miss the good old days before 1994 when they were a permanent minority who didn't really have to do anything except attend dinner parties.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (IqV8l)

287 One lengthy post, you're decrying your loyalty to a party that seems committed to losing and serial political idiocy, and you claim you're actually going to join the Democrats, if only to be on a winning side and avoid embarrassment/GOP futility/etc. I've seen at least two posts--lengthy, unambiguous posts--of this stripe.

If you are going to be in opposition to the GOP, then the Dems will be the home. Unless of course you want good dope, then there is Libertarian Party.

Until the shakeout occurs, and there is a new party, its still a binary choice.

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (tewYv)

288 Pick an alpha plant name, like Snapdragon.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (FtrY1)

Tiger Lily

Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at October 27, 2016 03:05 PM (RwwCT)

289 It's always been a well known secret that we have a one party system with Global Interests who collude with the media and other institutions to destroy America.

Holding these people accountable for their crimes against this country is the right thing to do.

There are factions from the right that engage in bullying to fulfill a sadistic nature. Those people hurt the righteous movement to stop the traitors and hold then accountable.

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 27, 2016 03:05 PM (Rw8Ov)

290 Good news about Twitter - they are losing so much money that they are not only cutting a bunch of jobs, they are also shutting down Vine.

Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 27, 2016 03:05 PM (Om16U)

291 254
I've been trying to figure out what common trait binds Clinton supporters together.

.............



I'm thinking it's Facebook and Starbucks.

Posted by: wth at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (HgMAr)


This guy has about as lucid a theory as any I have seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG1pItpyWBY

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable at October 27, 2016 03:05 PM (GX63o)

292 Basically, the Clintons and Gore hate each other.

So what changed? What was promised?

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (XfRKW)
...........

Lots and lots of Mexican food. And hot sauce.

Posted by: wth at October 27, 2016 03:06 PM (HgMAr)

293 You've missed the weaponizing of our government to be used as a bulllying tool against the people it is suppose to represent. They shame through public policies, undermine the public school system to support their social programs, undercut the military and try to destroy moral by making it a social policy proving ground, audit those they don't agree with and corrupt the justice system when their misdeeds are so egregious they can't be ignored.

They don't want to govern. They want to rule and will crush anyone in their way who doesn't agree with them.

It is truly a divisive, disgusting, corrupt and autocratic group.

It is in action a tyranny of a majority that de Tocqueville wrote about.

I would hope at some point people would understand they've been made into political dupes and are. It focused on the real issues. But I grow doubtful each day that will happen without some type of clarion call.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 27, 2016 03:06 PM (wA3c3)

294 >>If you are going to be in opposition to the GOP,
then the Dems will be the home. Unless of course you want good dope,
then there is Libertarian Party. Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (tewYv)

If I've got termites, I work to exterminate them--I don't feed them.

Posted by: General Zod at October 27, 2016 03:06 PM (Bdeb0)

295 OT
Finally had a chance to read an article on the ribbon cutting ceremony yesterday for Trump's DC hotel in the old US Post office.

CBSN's reporter sneered at the hotel opening, claiming that the only reason Trump got the contract was because he outbid Marriott, Hilton, etc. (duh). And that was because Marriott, Hilton, etc knew that at the price Trump paid for the hotel, there is no way he can repay the costs of the hotel reconstruction, and pay the $200,000M ten year lease to the US gov. on the room rates he's going to charge. That he would have to charge $725 a night per room average to just break even.

Nowhere has anyone accounted for what any of the stores, restaurants or more importantly meeting rooms and event rooms for weddings, gov. functions, etc. are going to bring in addition to room rates.

But by all means, let's pretend that Trump's hotel investments are all bad , crazy ideas.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 27, 2016 03:07 PM (oDUj/)

296 I had the worst nightmare last night. I dreamed that it was 4:30 P.M. and Hillary was drunk as a skunk and nobody could sober her up.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 27, 2016 03:07 PM (CFc5L)

297 You're a blood thirsty devil, General Tsao, but your chicken is so good.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 27, 2016 03:07 PM (QQ+il)

298 Afternoon ace, re the bottom story on NY Slime.


Two days in a row now they have run stories about NC that are only meant for one thing. To try an suppress or depress the Trump vote.



There latest is an analysis of early voting which leaves out a lot of data to pro port to show Trump is down 22%



Total horse shit.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 27, 2016 03:07 PM (NbJXF)

299 Pick an alpha plant name, like Snapdragon.

Venus flytrap

Posted by: kallisto at October 27, 2016 03:07 PM (nNdYv)

300 There is nothing wrong with nationalism especially American Nationalism since we are the most diverse nation in the country.

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 27, 2016 03:07 PM (Rw8Ov)

301 I remember that, the Israel kerfuffle. Has Israel EVER been in Civ?

Posted by: moviegique


I think it was in one of the "Call to Power" games Activision did, and yes those count, I don't care how screwy a sideshow those were.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at October 27, 2016 03:07 PM (9krrF)

302 Wikileaks email dump proves what I long have suspected: you know why Bill Cosby disappeared from the headlines? It was a huge story, then suddenly crickets.

Because the Clinton team feared Clinton-Cosby comparisons. I know I personally found it a mother lode to dig into when Cosby came up, reminding people of the horrific evil of Bill Clinton's actions. I was able to flip several young women against Hillary because they'd never even heard of Bill Clinton's rape victims. They had no idea, until they were told.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (39g3+)

303 Tim in Illinois--

That might be my issue with Civ 5. I've never been a warmonger, except in Civ 3, where the strategic resources tended to force the issue. I got Imperial real fast.

I think Civ 3 isn't beloved because of all the weird imbalances, but those work just fine in solo play, I think.

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (7zeA4)

304 This is why Alinsky's admiration of Lucifer is relevant. He likes Lucifer because he won his own kingdom. He'd rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven. But how does that work out for his followers? They get to serve in Hell, what a bargain. Alinskyism will bring about Hell on Earth by design.

Posted by: zmdavid at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (xqRaG)

305 "It's not coming from where Team Hillary's bullying is coming from -- from the actual power centers of politics and media, the actual locus of genuine political power and control."

Bingo. Its coming from the group the nevertrumpers want to be part of

Posted by: Ben H at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (I64i9)

306 286
I think they miss the good old days before 1994 when they were a permanent minority who didn't really have to do anything except attend dinner parties.

It is something like that I think."We are in majority now,people expect RESULTS!"

Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (fA75F)

307 292 Basically, the Clintons and Gore hate each other.

So what changed? What was promised?

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:01 PM (XfRKW)
...........

Lots and lots of Mexican food. And hot sauce.
Posted by: wth at October 27, 2016 03:06 PM (HgMAr)



Someone to release his chakras.

Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (z/Ubi)

308 Their not there.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (NbJXF)

309 Two reasons to vote Trump - He Fights and He Will Restore Laughter to our Nation. I'm all in on fighting and laughing. I will use any device to kill the postmodern Puritans that infest us. Trump is the wooden stake and the silver bullet.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 27, 2016 02:47 PM (vV/gB)




Reason 3 - the looks on the faces of the MFM

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (493sH)

310 you know, with the sound turned off, Moochelle looks like she could be selling a no stick frying pan.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (2JQBv)

311 Pick an alpha plant name, like Snapdragon
...
Ironwood

Posted by: ajmojo at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (1H9ox)

312
"A foolish consistency..." and all that, but I confess to being completely disoriented. Maybe it's this year. Anyway, strange stuff.

++++

New information has come to light

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:09 PM (XfRKW)

313 But by all means, let's pretend that Trump's hotel investments are all bad , crazy ideas.

Meanwhile, in Haiti...

Yeah, we won't get that.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 03:09 PM (B+qrE)

314 Wth 254
I've been trying to figure out what common trait binds Clinton supporters together.

.............



I'm thinking it's Facebook and Starbucks.

____________________________________________

Haven't been to a Starbucks in Years - their coffee is terrible (not to mention way overpriced) and their clientele - well let's just say - its hard to breathe in all that smug.

Facebook - I am OK with - I unfriended all the losers who were proggy or preachy/Oh-BAHM-uh supporters a long while ago - and now just use it to keep tabs on family and friends.

Posted by: Publius Redux at October 27, 2016 03:09 PM (Fb9aZ)

315 223 When they were working on Civilization 4, they had lots of discussion on the game's forums about what should be in it, game designers asking for input.

My brother suggested Israel be one of the civilizations, since it has historically been such a powerful, influential, and historical force through the millennia. After all, they put the Iroquois in, who contributed nothing and accomplished nothing in their short culture. They have Aztecs and Maya. He was shouted down by an assortment of people who don't know history and those who hate Jews. Israel/Hebrews never made it into the game.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 02:55 PM (39g3+)

So Israel starts with Monotheism and Banking?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 27, 2016 03:09 PM (FtrY1)

316 "First Lady: Every Single Vote Matters" (Fox news, bottom of the screen)

Bring out yer dead! Bring out yer dead!

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (2JQBv)

317 I remember that, the Israel kerfuffle. Has Israel EVER been in Civ?

I haven't seen the latest, but I don't believe so, no. Far more obscure and meaningless "civilizations" are included, but not Israel, a sort of obvious one.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (39g3+)

318 A regional director in NC told me last night that the Repubs are ahead of 2012 #s and they have more absentee ballots in the field.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (+oWEl)

319 I've seen the left getting their way using bullying tactics my whole life. They even use their anti-bullying campaigns to bully. I've seen that in an elementary school.

Then I saw many on the right and the government join them to bully the tea party movement.

Of course I'm going to be attracted to Trump and his group for standing up against the bullies.

And go Milo!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (GzDYP)

320 The Democrats,they find a way to get a result.They got Obamacare even though it cost them the majority.R's don't have the balls to sacrifice in moving their agenda forward.

Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (fA75F)

321 The next, you're foursquare against the Democrats for pulling the kind of shit described in Adams' piece, and you're claiming that you've felt the same way for 2-3 years.

"A foolish consistency..." and all that, but I confess to being completely disoriented. Maybe it's this year. Anyway, strange stuff.



Posted by: General Zod at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (Bdeb0)

Time machine.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (QPdNE)

322 273 I am tired of being bullied by people who think Twitter matters. I am tired of news people, bloggers and others who use twitter thinking great masses of people use it or think it means anything.
Posted by: Ruth H


The funny part of all of this is that Twitter is in the process of going bankrupt. The just shitcanned the entire Vine concept today, after an entire generation embraced it as "the future." Twitter's stock is down 25% and they can't find a buyer. This morning they fired like 10% of their workforce. The downward spiral has begun.

Good riddance.

Posted by: zombie at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (jBuUi)

323 I think Civ 3 isn't beloved because of all the weird imbalances, but those work just fine in solo play, I think.

I only ever played it solo and it plays great. I still enjoy it and see no point for any other version. The combat sucks, but I always turned off conquest and avoided combat if at all possible anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 03:11 PM (39g3+)

324
Pick an alpha plant name

Gympie Gympie

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 27, 2016 03:11 PM (IqV8l)

325 Does this mean the "you're banned if you insult people merely for disagreeing politically" rule is now lifted?

Posted by: Apostate at October 27, 2016 03:12 PM (zCupF)

326 But he'll never win the Muslim Children Dream Vote...

Posted by: TexasJew at October 27, 2016 03:12 PM (N7G17)

327 So Israel starts with Monotheism and Banking?

... and exclusive access to the Gem luxury resource.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 27, 2016 03:12 PM (XAbde)

328 Cavil -- I did not play much CTP but I knew there was a core of people who said it was the best of all. (Granting a few wild imbalances. Heh.)

Headless -- You jest, but when religion was introduced to the game, Judaism was founded by the firs to discover monotheism.

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 03:12 PM (7zeA4)

329 Trump paid for the hotel, there is no way he can repay the costs of the hotel reconstruction, and pay the $200,000M




Two hundred thousand million?
No shit he couldn't pay it off. Or, the reporter doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 03:12 PM (AoLFQ)

330 While I don't disagree with this cartoon dude's sentiment...this is two days in a row now where ace has pulled out some person that no one really gives a crap what they say to demonstrate a point that he agrees with.

It would be nice if someone with some actual juice in the world would jump on board the Orange Blossom Special.

Posted by: ajmojo at October 27, 2016 03:12 PM (1H9ox)

331 The more I think about this...

It's certainly not too soon for Ace to start writing some of this shit down.

I'll need a West Wing office with window (none of this "outer office" bullshit) and a decent parking space. I'm not hung up on titles, but some sort of "Under Secretary" would be appropriate.

Remember that if the election went the other way, we would be right there in the reeducation camp along with Ace, so we should share in the benefits if things go our way. Sure, we're the people that the guards just push away as they drag Ace to the "Probing Room", but we're right there anyway.

Posted by: jwest at October 27, 2016 03:12 PM (Zs4uk)

332 I think we might, in light of Petunia and Begonia, start a Petunia/Begonia's daughter running comment. I am game if everyone else is.

Posted by: Publius Redux at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (Fb9aZ)

I still think begonia is supposed to be someone attempting to parody petunia.
Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2016 02:52 PM (z/Ubi)

These people are beta and omega in their flower handles. Might as well select pansy. Pick an alpha plant name, like Snapdragon.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 27, 2016 03:03 PM (FtrY1)
------------------

I humbly request that you be vigilant and please don't let any innocent ephemerals get caught up in your flower pruning.

Many thanks.

Posted by: bluebell at October 27, 2016 03:12 PM (uHcnA)

333 the same argument that Gandhi used when he said, "An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind."
___
Gotta say, its good to be the king.

Posted by: The guy that still has one eye at October 27, 2016 03:12 PM (X7E8f)

334
I'm scared, everyone. I'm scared of Donald Trump.

But I'm also scared Sherry's Berries will dump me.

And also Blinds dot com.

Posted by: Glenn Beck at October 27, 2016 03:13 PM (rFQmw)

335 I was linking Jet Cars Burning Stuff down re: the press yesterday. Then the anti-troll trolls burned the black Downs troll up on South Park last night. Maybe I'll try just raking the leaves, that'll keep me busy til Dec.

Posted by: DaveA at October 27, 2016 03:13 PM (8J/Te)

336 " if they want to go the Full Alinsky, then the Full Alinsky it shall be. Pandora's Box has been opened.

Posted by: zombie

yeah I agree. But "SJW" is about "social justice", a Marxist argument in essence, imo. Fighting for what is right, "shaming" the PC weak minds, would need another term. Fearless Patriots?

The NFL is getting a small taste of a response to their "taking a knee". What if a majority boycotts, the way their minority has pushed the hate? I wish Taylor would come out for Trump, in their face, and "we" then organize a BUYcott for her, and a boycott on Hillary's fascist backers.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 27, 2016 03:13 PM (AHlb3)

337 I am tired of being bullied by people who think Twitter matters.

I told them to get screwed after they banned Milo. Effing fascists.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 03:13 PM (B+qrE)

338 you know, with the sound turned off, Moochelle looks like she could be selling a no stick frying pan.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (2JQBv)
..........

let me know when she picks up a shake weight

Posted by: wth at October 27, 2016 03:13 PM (HgMAr)

339 Posted by: zombie at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (jBuUi)



Twitter is a part of the DNC machine, hence the hit pieces appearing about Gab. Although in its infancy, Gab is already slicing into Twitter's market.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 27, 2016 03:13 PM (uiwCw)

340 265 on lower screen on Fox news right now as Moochele speaks: "Need president who takes job seriously."
Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:02 PM (2JQBv)

then why is your husband busy campaigning for Hillary, instead of running the damn country?

Posted by: Don Quixote, singing the song of deplorable Men at October 27, 2016 03:14 PM (qf6WZ)

341 Civ 4 is best Civ.

That is all.

Oh, and Civ 5 isn't a civilization game.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 27, 2016 03:14 PM (X7E8f)

342 318
A regional director in NC told me last night that the Repubs are ahead
of 2012 #s and they have more absentee ballots in the field.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (+oWEl)

I heard the same thing at lunch. The Times disinformation is amazing.
Best we let them think they are winning?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 27, 2016 03:14 PM (NbJXF)

343 Oh they like you. Provided you become one of them and agree with whatever they state.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 27, 2016 03:14 PM (wA3c3)

344 Posted by: Publius Redux at October 27, 2016 03:09 PM (Fb9aZ)

The only times I go to Charbux is if I have a gift card.

Posted by: kallisto at October 27, 2016 03:15 PM (nNdYv)

345 "An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind, but a head for an eye kills that noise real fast."

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at October 27, 2016 03:15 PM (9krrF)

346 I really only use Twitter to find out which day of the week my local Mexican place is doing dollar taco night.

And see Ace lose his shit.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 27, 2016 03:15 PM (Si1jj)

347 Until the shakeout occurs, and there is a new party, its still a binary choice.

++++

If the GOP is dumb enough to do a purge there'll be a new party the next month.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:15 PM (XfRKW)

348 Tiger Lily

Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at October 27, 2016 03:05 PM (RwwCT)

Venus Flytrap.

Oh, no, wait that's what they call Hillary's Depends.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 03:15 PM (u0lmX)

349 Anyway, I got Civ IV, played it, but now the Special Edition of Skyrim drops tonight.

Sorry, Civ.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at October 27, 2016 03:16 PM (9krrF)

350 Breaking:

Group of Hillary supporters, packed into a tight mass, seen weeping and moaning as traffic is backed up while law enforcement is at a loss on how to remove the tangle. One spokesperson speculated that the group formed more or less spontaneously after reports circulated about the accelerating collapse of the Clinton campaign across the country.

More good news to follow.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 27, 2016 03:16 PM (4ng05)

351 Oh, and Civ 5 isn't a civilization game.

Meh ... I like it. Different strokes I guess.

The Joo Civilization should probably have the Film Studio as a special building as well.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 27, 2016 03:16 PM (XAbde)

352 Tiger Flowers, middleweight champion in the era of Greb, Tunney and Dempsey,is the most badass name of any fighter in the history of boxing.

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2016 03:16 PM (OGbEB)

353 I think Obama took time out from his busy schedule to do a "Mean Tweets" segment on a late night show.Serious presidentin'.

Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2016 03:16 PM (fA75F)

354 Bill didn't endorse Gore in 2000 because Gore publicly criticized Bill over MonicaGate, and generally tried to distance himself.

Gore returned the favor in 2008 by not endorsing Hillary.

One of the reasons the Clintons were so greedy in trading favors for dollars was that they envied the much larger scam ManBearPig pulled off over CAGW. FFS, Gore even got a Nobel Prize and an Oscar!

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 03:17 PM (r1fLd)

355 Until the shakeout occurs, and there is a new party, its still a binary choice.

++++

If the GOP is dumb enough to do a purge there'll be a new party the next month.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers


They'll be able to close out their catering expenses. No point when it's just three guys.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at October 27, 2016 03:17 PM (9krrF)

356 I had a lawyer's wife, who's main information is gotten from NBC news, tell me she was worried Trump would start a nuclear war!



People believe Hillary's hit ads. Reminds me of the Daisy flower ads in 1964.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 27, 2016 03:17 PM (NbJXF)

357 The Joo Civilization should probably have the Film Studio as a special building as well.

85% combat bonus against Arab units.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 03:17 PM (B+qrE)

358 I feel sorry for Adams. I want to whisper into his ear, "I'm happy you've seen the light, but don't bother dude. It won't make a bit of difference, and will only paint a target on your back." He probably thinks (naively) is that all he needs to do is articulate his position, and people will change their minds.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 27, 2016 03:17 PM (mBYZv)

359 NeverTurnipers have made some great company...

Trump supporters at the University of Pittsburgh were verbally and physically "harassed on campus Thursday by liberal classmates.
Two students flipped over the Trump table, while others remarked "fuck the while male patriarchy" and accused the conservative students of backing a "racist" candidate.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (Z2r3C)

360 A regional director in NC told me last night that the Repubs are ahead of 2012 #s and they have more absentee ballots in the field.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (+oWEl)
....
Oooh, oooh! I'm a regional director too! Can I tell you stuff.
I mean it won't be about the election as I'm in insurance, but I can tell you stuff!!!

Posted by: ajmojo at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (1H9ox)

361 341 Civ 4 is best Civ.

That is all.

Oh, and Civ 5 isn't a civilization game.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 27, 2016 03:14 PM (X7E8f)



Didn't Civ 6 just release?

Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (z/Ubi)

362 I closed my Twitter account the day after the Romney non-election. I never missed it once. Never gave it a second thought.


I did really like it for the Walker Recall Election though. It was a uick way to get lots of breaking info from around the state. And to smash that little roach Graeme Something. Maybe Donna Ampersands remembers who I'm talking about.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (bpfzP)

363 >>>Time machine.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 27, 2016 03:10 PM (QPdNE)

Intermittent fasting delirium.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy, sending 💌 to Winona at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (LhdNI)

364 Hillary ahead 87-6 in a poll of people hidden in vans and trucks in Brownsville, TX.

Posted by: Pole man at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (2z74n)

365 O/T a bit:

"I mean, I do think at a certain point you've made enough money. (Laughter.) But part of the American way is you can just keep on making it if you're providing a good product or you're providing a good service."

Well then it's all good.

http://tinyurl.com/jbpdqm7

Posted by: m at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (/4GEs)

366 Snapdragon was a troll we had here a decade ago. ( I used to call him"crapwagon".) Eventually he got tired of the spankings he got here and quit

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (mqM/d)

367 Democrat voters prefer Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WI) to lead the Republican Party over 2016 GOP nominee Donald Trump, according to a recent NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll.

?????

AND WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT DEMS THINK?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Second question: How many of them gave one flying frig when fellow dems made a commercial showing Ryan pushing grannie off a cliff a few years ago?

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (326rv)

368
I had a lawyer's wife, who's main information is gotten from NBC news, tell me she was worried Trump would start a nuclear war!
***
Trump ain't the one threatening to start a war with the #2 nuclear power in the world.


Posted by: 18-1 at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (X7E8f)

369 I wonder how many of Taylor Swift's fans would or wouldn't care if she endorsed Trump.

and Moochelle looks kind of... big from the side.

a view from the back of the room, I don't think that the crowd was very big.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (2JQBv)

370 Americans have been bullied to feel shame and hatred towards our Country and our citizens.

And I've always said that it's is not about Trump per se but the ideas he represents.

Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (Rw8Ov)

371 They don't want to govern. They want to rule and will crush anyone in their way who doesn't agree with the

++++

They also, supposedly, want a global government. Perhaps through the UN. Maybe a council.

Given the dreadful leaders of the majority of countries in the world, that is truly frightening

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:19 PM (XfRKW)

372 Steve and Cold Bear--

No, not at all. Adams takes the view that people are essentially hypnotized, which is why persuasion--independent of logic or reason--works.

He's not wrong about that.

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 03:19 PM (7zeA4)

373 Could start Israel with Monotheism and Alphabet. I'm not sure about the gritty game mechanic stuff. It just belongs in the mix.

I mean, look at the Nobel Prize winner listings, its half Jew.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 03:19 PM (39g3+)

374 Kallisto -344
Posted by: Publius Redux at October 27, 2016 03:09 PM (Fb9aZ)



The only times I go to Charbux is if I have a gift card.

_______________________________________
Meh - wouldn't even go then - actually my friends know not to give me a Starbucks gift cert. I have taught them well - most of them don't go there anymore either now that I taught them the joys of perking your own coffee (There was a lot of coffee discussion in a thread of a few days ago - as I recall).

Posted by: Publius Redux at October 27, 2016 03:19 PM (Fb9aZ)

375 I found the Tim Kaine and 30 people at the event story in WEST PALM BEACH - FLORIDA on gatewaypundit!?!?!?


Hillary's only appearing at universities, no signs, I've seen little stories here and there with no Hillary volunteers, no people at rallies.



And Trump packs them in with a few hours notice.



I feel and hope a Brexit surprise is going to happen. I hope so. I really do...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2016 03:19 PM (vvKUi)

376 Didn't Civ 6 just release?

I got it ... like it so far.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 27, 2016 03:19 PM (XAbde)

377 Remember that bossie bully when you were a kid? That one playtime Nazi who had to always do things his way or he would quit. The one who would try to force you do it his way or he would threaten you. The one you eventually kicked in the nuts?

Yeah, he and his quislings are running the country.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 27, 2016 03:19 PM (wA3c3)

378 you know, with the sound turned off, Moochelle looks like she could be selling a no stick frying pan.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (2JQBv)
.............

could be the type she used to give Barry that huge scar on the back of his head

Posted by: wth at October 27, 2016 03:19 PM (HgMAr)

379 I had a lawyer's wife, who's main information is gotten from NBC news, tell me she was worried Trump would start a nuclear war!

People believe Hillary's hit ads. Reminds me of the Daisy flower ads in 1964.


Posted by: Nip Sip at October 27, 2016 03:17 PM (NbJXF)





You must not vote Trump! He's an isolationist that wants us to have nothing to do with the rest of the world! That policy could start a nuclear war!

/s

Posted by: Country Singer at October 27, 2016 03:19 PM (uiwCw)

380 322 273 I am tired of being bullied by people who think Twitter matters. I am tired of news people, bloggers and others who use twitter thinking great masses of people use it or think it means anything.
Posted by: Ruth H

On line, I've known tons of people who tweet. Off line, I don't know one person who does and that includes the millennials I know.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 03:20 PM (u0lmX)

381 I feel sorry for Adams. I want to whisper into his ear, "I'm happy you've seen the light, but don't bother dude. It won't make a bit of difference, and will only paint a target on your back." He probably thinks (naively) is that all he needs to do is articulate his position, and people will change their minds.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 27, 2016 03:17 PM (mBYZv)


Evidently you haven't read his stuff.

He knew exactly what he was getting into.

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 03:20 PM (tewYv)

382 Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (Z2r3C)
=============================================


What's weird is that Donald Trump was part of the white male patriarchy when he did The Apprentice, yet nobody seemed to mind.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 03:20 PM (bpfzP)

383
Remember the good ol days when "physical harassment" meant Assault?

But when "liberal classmates" are doing it it's only physical harassment.

Posted by: Glenn Beck at October 27, 2016 03:20 PM (rFQmw)

384 Gympie Gympie

Bad name, right attitude.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 27, 2016 03:20 PM (YEelc)

385 The problem with a Jew civilization in a Civilization game is that once you pick them you automatically win because they control everything.

Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2016 03:21 PM (z/Ubi)

386 Imagine the reverse of this ace:

There are people out there who DON'T think pushing back against this is important.

Really makes you wonder why the fuck they get out of bed in the morning.

Speaking of which, what's with the Evan McMullin pieces? You want to vote for him, fine. "He's building a new party?" Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

Posted by: GrapeDrink at October 27, 2016 03:21 PM (ec6o6)

387 moviegique,

If Civ III had any kind of events system like II did, and a decent editor I would still be playing it today. IV and V are okay in their own ways but game play in III was best.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 27, 2016 03:21 PM (d76uN)

388 Good news story of the day: Twitter, official censor of the left, recently announced layoffs, and also announced today they are being forced to shut down Vine, because they are losing money.

Maybe if they stopped SJW censorship they'd have more customers.

Posted by: MTF at October 27, 2016 03:21 PM (/m8T6)

389 Oooh, oooh! I'm a regional director too! Can I tell you stuff.

I mean it won't be about the election as I'm in insurance, but I can tell you stuff!!!

Posted by: ajmojo at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (1H9ox)

Does it involve grabbing pussy? By all means, tell it brother!

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 27, 2016 03:21 PM (NbJXF)

390 That one playtime Nazi who had to always do things his way or he would quit"

Yeah. Sorta like the pizza company ad now about the girl demanding salad...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 27, 2016 03:21 PM (C9pBZ)

391 344
Posted by: Publius Redux at October 27, 2016 03:09 PM (Fb9aZ)



The only times I go to Charbux is if I have a gift card.

Posted by: kallisto at October 27, 2016 03:15 PM (nNdYv)


I stopped going to Starbucks, which I actually liked, once Schultz endorsed hitlery. There are costs to supporting tyranny and the destruction of our Republic. May they go the way of Twitter.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable at October 27, 2016 03:22 PM (GX63o)

392 I wonder how many of Taylor Swift's fans would or wouldn't care if she endorsed Trump.

Trump who? Is he that dreamy boy in Stranger Things, or Pretty Little Liars?

Posted by: 13 year old Taylor Swift Fan at October 27, 2016 03:22 PM (39g3+)

393 Additionally to my post about CBSN account of Trump's DC hotel, I saw an interview with Ivanka last week in which she was talking about how dishonest the media has been about not just her dad but the business as well. She said that the media keeps circulating a meme that the Trump brand and hotels are suffering because of Trumps presidential run, which she says is not true. She said as an example, she was being told by a business reporter that they did research on the hotel's occupancy rate and according to what they found, the rates were down by 50%. She provided the reporter with company internal reports, revenue reports, etc. and booking rates from the company.
She said the reporter kept insisting and when she asked where they got their data, he named some obscure hotel booking company Ivanka wasn't even aware of, that had booked a grand total of 16 rooms this year.

From that , this reporter was basing his conclusions.

She said what was worse, he wasn't interested in the actual documents she was willing to provide him.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 27, 2016 03:22 PM (oDUj/)

394 Posted by: MTF at October 27, 2016 03:21 PM (/m8T6)

I wonder how gab or whatever that alternative is called is doing?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 27, 2016 03:22 PM (EnGQE)

395 >>>Adams takes the view that people are essentially hypnotized

You're telling me!!
😍 WINONA

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy, writing 💌 to Winona at October 27, 2016 03:22 PM (LhdNI)

396 No, not at all. Adams takes the view that people are essentially
hypnotized, which is why persuasion--independent of logic or
reason--works.
***
Most people don't have the inclination to actually read about the policy details. In a society with a small government that works pretty well - if there are only 1 or 2 issues at stake in any given election any reasonably intelligent person will know where the candidates stand. But with our bloated Levithan that doesn't scale.

I mean hell, if your big issue is "no more war" the obvious candidate should be Trump since unlike Hillary he hasn't started any and isn't promising to start one with Russia. I guarantee you if you took 100 Hillary voters and asked them about this less then 10 would have any idea what Hillary's views on Syria/Russia are.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 27, 2016 03:22 PM (X7E8f)

397 This tweet should get their panties in a bunch


Joe Walsh
@WalshFreedom

On November 8th, I'm voting for Trump.

On November 9th, if Trump loses, I'm grabbing my musket.

You in?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 27, 2016 03:22 PM (/D5Lf)

398 The only times I go to Charbux is if I have a gift card.

Posted by: kallisto at October 27, 2016 03:15 PM (nNdYv)
..............


why, will they give you cash for it?

Posted by: wth at October 27, 2016 03:23 PM (HgMAr)

399 The problem with a Jew civilization in a Civilization game is that once you pick them you automatically win because they control everything.

Shhhhhh

You'll ruin it.

P.S. to any interloping Stormfront dolts...don't even.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 03:23 PM (B+qrE)

400 OT - I don't like to gloat when people loose their jobs, but twitter is cutting 9% of its workforce & killing its vine app, whatever that means.

http://tinyurl.com/h5a75pm

Pull quote from the piece - Twitter has yet to turn a profit.

Posted by: josephistan at October 27, 2016 03:23 PM (7HtZB)

401 Milo should buy Twitter. That would be outstanding

Posted by: L, Elle at October 27, 2016 03:23 PM (6IPEM)

402 385
The problem with a Jew civilization in a Civilization game is that once
you pick them you automatically win because they control everything that we don't control.

Posted by: buzzion at October 27, 2016 03:21 PM (z/Ubi)

FIFY

Posted by: The Bilderberg Group at October 27, 2016 03:23 PM (NbJXF)

403 358 I feel sorry for Adams. I want to whisper into his ear, "I'm happy you've seen the light, but don't bother dude. It won't make a bit of difference, and will only paint a target on your back." He probably thinks (naively) is that all he needs to do is articulate his position, and people will change their minds.
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I've read his book and his interest is to raise self awareness of his fellow Americans regarding predatory salesmanship. He is consistent. As an author, how many leftist books actually sell? Generally, the Right is where the readers are. As for Dilbert, he is an institution. Newspapers know this, even the hard left ones.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 27, 2016 03:23 PM (vV/gB)

404 Put differently, there was an argument that Trump never got a majority of actual R primary voters. But when you added in the votes for the other anti-GOPe candidates it was well over 60%. I don't see this changing.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 02:54 PM (r1fLd)


Yeah, that argument was hilarious:

(1) "Trump didn't get a majority."
(2) "No one did."
(1) "If you add them all together it is a majority NeverTrump."
(2) "If you add them altogether it is a majority NeverCruz (or NeverRubio, NeverJeb, NeverWhomever). Funny the way that works out."
(1) "Trump did not get a majority."
(2) "He got more than any other single candidate."
(1) *pause* "Trump did not get a majority."

And on and on.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase a Self-Denouncement Kit from the Outrage Outlet! at October 27, 2016 03:24 PM (hLRSq)

405 And to smash that little roach Graeme Something. Maybe Donna Ampersands remembers who I'm talking about.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (bpfzP)

I think so, although I can't remember his last name either. Was he one of the idiots who ran off to Illinois in a hissy fit?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 03:24 PM (u0lmX)

406 Off line, I don't know one person who does and that includes the millennials I know.

Twitter is all old people. Young people are off using Kik and Snapchat

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 03:24 PM (39g3+)

407 221---I forgot to ask the horde if they can make a list of right wing writers, from most prominent to least, who have been unapologetically pro-Trump. It will be a short list.

Posted by: jwest at October 27, 2016 02:55 PM (Zs4uk)
----------------------------------------------
What do you mean by "unapologetically?"
Will Ace and someone like Dennis Prager make your list even if they were strongly anti-Trump before the nomination?

I certainly would hope so.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 27, 2016 03:25 PM (Nox3c)

408 And somebody tell the Cubs to stop bullying the Indians

Posted by: BIG AL FREDO at October 27, 2016 03:25 PM (iWo0u)

409 Evidently you haven't read his stuff.

He knew exactly what he was getting into.
Posted by: blaster



No, I didn't. This is about the only side I can read without experiencing rage stroke.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 27, 2016 03:25 PM (mBYZv)

410 Hillary's only appearing at universities, no signs, I've seen little stories here and there with no Hillary volunteers, no people at rallies.
..............

to be fair, the universities are well equipped with wheelchair ramps

Posted by: wth at October 27, 2016 03:26 PM (HgMAr)

411 I see the latest AP poll or random adults has a D+11 sample in it and gives hillary a 14 point lead over trump

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 27, 2016 03:26 PM (iONHu)

412 Hey, shouldn't this be a guns and boobies thread by now?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 27, 2016 03:26 PM (8ZskC)

413 http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/tricare-misses-the-mark-on-mammogram-coverage

A short article about what Tricare will and will not pay for. It might shock you

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 27, 2016 03:27 PM (zp+j1)

414 I had a lawyer's wife, who's main information is gotten from NBC news, tell me she was worried Trump would start a nuclear war!

Agree with her, then note how We all died (twice) when Bush was elected.

Then remark how much it sucks that Ronnie Raygun got us into two nuclear wars.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 27, 2016 03:27 PM (326rv)

415 I see the latest AP poll or random adults has a D+11 sample in it and gives hillary a 14 point lead over trump

Brexit. Dead ahead.

And it will be hilarious.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 03:27 PM (B+qrE)

416 I wonder how gab or whatever that alternative is called is doing?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 27, 2016 03:22 PM (EnGQE)




They seem to be doing pretty good. I'm over there and they're having some trouble keeping up with demand...more users than server space, so each time more capacity is added it gets swallowed up by new people. I do like that they're running on donations, too. No mobile apps yet, those are still in development. They'll likely just explode when those are released.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 27, 2016 03:27 PM (uiwCw)

417 And somebody tell the Cubs to stop bullying the Indians
Posted by: BIG AL FREDO at October 27, 2016 03:25 PM (iWo0u)

It probably wouldn't be happening if the Indians didn't speak with that funny accent.

Speculating.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 27, 2016 03:27 PM (4ng05)

418 From that , this reporter was basing his conclusions.

She said what was worse, he wasn't interested in the actual documents she was willing to provide him.
Posted by: Jen



Duh. No shit. They have an agenda and the truth ain't it.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 03:28 PM (AoLFQ)

419 Friends don't let boobs have guns?

Or are we talking elbows again?

I need a drink.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 27, 2016 03:28 PM (C9pBZ)

420 Not sure how relevant or interesting it is but I would not piss on left winger if he or she were on fire

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 27, 2016 03:28 PM (zp+j1)

421 re 407: well, a few weeks ago, the great Thomas Sowell wrote a column that pretty clearly suggested that while Trump might be a disaster, Hillery would definitely be a disaster.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:28 PM (2JQBv)

422 Joe Walsh from The Eagles??

Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2016 03:28 PM (fA75F)

423 Why do I hear circus music?

A little noticed Obama administration directive on Cuba, released Oct. 14, instructed the U.S. director of national intelligence to assist and cooperate with Cuba's intelligence services.

The directive has raised red flags on Capitol Hill, where some lawmakers are concerned that Cuba will pass along critical U.S. intelligence to the Iranians, who have made moves in recent years to extend their influence in the communist country and other Latin American countries hostile to the United States.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2016 03:28 PM (Z2r3C)

424 You idiots, it means nothing if GOP is doing better compared to 2012 early vote numbers if Dems are improving their numbers by more, lol.
...
No shit. But are they?

Posted by: ajmojo at October 27, 2016 03:29 PM (1H9ox)

425 If Civ III had any kind of events system like II did, and a decent editor I would still be playing it today. IV and V are okay in their own ways but game play in III was best.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 27, 2016 03:21 PM (d76uN)



I play Civ IV several times a week still. I like Civ IV a bit better than Civ III because I like not getting penalized for trying to wonder build because I like to cheat I mean optimize my play style by building lots of wonders.

I HATED Civ V. Absolutely hated it. It felt to me like they were absolutely forcing everything into a diplomat play style and I don't mind that being an option but I don't want a default choice made for me. Yes, yes, Stack O'Doom was annoying but only one unit per tile is more so.

I've watched some streams of Civ VI and it looks beautiful but at least online multiplayer seems buggy as all hell.

Posted by: alexthechick - my poor redheaded stepmules at October 27, 2016 03:29 PM (mf5HN)

426
I see the latest AP poll or random adults has a D+11 sample in it and gives hillary a 14 point lead over trump
***
Dear [name] I have two questions for you. Please listen to both questions before you answer either.

1) Who do you support for President?

2) Do you know who Ken Bone is? Note that we currently have your name, your address, and the company that you work for.

So anyway, care to answer question #1?

Posted by: Some pollster at October 27, 2016 03:29 PM (X7E8f)

427 Hey, shouldn't this be a guns and boobies thread by now?




.45 acp & a pair of 44DD's FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 03:29 PM (AoLFQ)

428 I heard the same thing at lunch. The Times disinformation is amazing.
Best we let them think they are winning?
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 27, 2016 03:14 PM (NbJXF)

---------

They are going to "report " whatever they want. Oh well.

After today there are no scheduled CLinton Campaign events in NC. Either they know they will lose or confirmed the vote fraud.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 27, 2016 03:29 PM (+oWEl)

429 The directive has raised red flags on Capitol Hill, where some lawmakers are concerned that Cuba will pass along critical U.S. intelligence to the Iranians,


A feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 27, 2016 03:29 PM (8ZskC)

430 Friends don't let boobs have guns?

From my cold dead hands.

Or something.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 03:29 PM (B+qrE)

431 -Posted by: Tom Selleck at October 27, 2016 03:27 PM (uZQwW)-

Your porn 'stache stinks of HRC peebag.

Posted by: kallisto at October 27, 2016 03:30 PM (nNdYv)

432 Yeah, that argument was hilarious:

(1) "Trump didn't get a majority."
(2) "No one did."
(1) "If you add them all together it is a majority NeverTrump."
(2) "If you add them altogether it is a majority NeverCruz (or NeverRubio, NeverJeb, NeverWhomever). Funny the way that works out."
(1) "Trump did not get a majority."
(2) "He got more than any other single candidate."
(1) *pause* "Trump did not get a majority."

And on and on.
-----------
What they hated to hear, was if you added the anti-GOPe vote you were looking at 80% of the fucking party. For some reason Jonah never would admit that stat. NR is dead to me.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 27, 2016 03:30 PM (vV/gB)

433 On November 9 the question will be asked and answered:

How did Hillary lose her Inevitable Indomitable Lead?

Slowly at first, then all at once.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 03:30 PM (r1fLd)

434 423 Joe Walsh from The Eagles??

Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2016 03:28 PM (fA75F)

No. Former congressman

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 27, 2016 03:30 PM (/D5Lf)

435 A regional director in NC told me last night that the Repubs are ahead

of 2012 #s and they have more absentee ballots in the field.

Good, time to send Cooper and Ross back to some their ACLU lawyering and a Supreme Court with a clear majority of Donald Trump's nominees.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at October 27, 2016 03:30 PM (7N6ox)

436
Trump ain't the one threatening to start a war with the #2 nuclear power in the world.
Posted by: 18-1


You are obviously in love with orange Putin!

Posted by: Astroglide at October 27, 2016 03:30 PM (IqV8l)

437 283 If by some act of God's mercy Trump wins, then I think a handfull of these people will double down and scream tantrum style about his horrific evil and pernicious nature until they become leftists. But the rest, I believe, will quietly shuffle their way back into the group and hope nobody brings it up ever again.

Nor should we, since we're all on the same side. I don't have to like the guy in the trench next to me. Just back him up when we're fighting the same enemy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 03:04 PM (39g3+)


You should never, ever trust someone who betrayed you once. Especially if they are never punished for their betrayal. They will betray you again.

Instead you pick about ten percent of them, and metaphorically stand them against the wall.

Posted by: rd at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (Rtl0g)

438 Maybe the Civ series could do a religious variation...

Like Jews vs Christendom vs the Reformation and Muslims and Catholic Church, etc

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (XfRKW)

439 They aren't going to stop fudging the polls this cycle. They need them to cover for the monumental vote fraud.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (QQ+il)

440 66 I am seriously thinking of voting for Trump/Pence and writing in 'screw you' for all the down ballot options. Disclaimer: I am in Cali so I am screwed anyway.
Posted by: IC

Because of jungle primaries there's no republicans to vote for down ballot anyway.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (kfcYC)

441 And somebody tell the Cubs to stop bullying the Indians
Posted by: BIG AL FREDO at October 27, 2016 03:25 PM (iWo0u)
.............

And How!

Posted by: Squaw Warren at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (HgMAr)

442 Cold hands?
Sounds stimulating...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (C9pBZ)

443 Let's face it, there are a lot of Zoe Quinns and Anita Sarkeesians in Never Trump. They did the same thing with this election that those two did with gamers:

Step 1: Attack a group of people (Stupid Trumpkins! He's conning you!)
Step 2: That group responds in kind (Bite us, cucks.)
Step 3: Claim that response is "harassment"
Step 4: Use anonymous Internet nobodies (who as we learned in the #GamerGate fiasco are usually false flag bots and sock puppets) to paint your opponents as evil stupid wrongthinking hate machines.
Step 5: Justify original attacks with Step 4

Posted by: crankytrex at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (WwN4y)

444 " if Dems are improving their numbers by more, lol. "

>if
>if Dems are improving their numbers
>by more

L.O.L.

Posted by: Apostate at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (zCupF)

445 I see the latest AP poll or random adults has a D+11 sample in it and gives hillary a 14 point lead over trump

I'm curious if the news guys and pollsters believe these polls, or if they know its just a turnout suppression effort? What I mean is, do they really think Trump is losing by 10+ points? Because they're in for a pretty big shock in November if so. I think Hillary still wins, but its going to be a squeaker.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (39g3+)

446 423
Joe Walsh from The Eagles??

Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2016 03:28 PM (fA75F)


Joe Walsh from "You lie!" fame, IIRC. Ex-representative.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (GX63o)

447 Joe Walsh from The Eagles??
...
Former senator, now an afternoon drive time radio host here in Chicago. His intro song is "Light em up" and he plays a clip of him being quoted as saying "the 2nd amendment is the most important because it defends all the other amendments"

Posted by: ajmojo at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (1H9ox)

448 5 You idiots, it means nothing if GOP is doing better compared to 2012 early vote numbers if Dems are improving their numbers by more, lol.
...
No shit. But are they?
Posted by: ajmojo at October 27, 2016 03:29 PM (1H9ox)

---

Its more relative to the Dems. Also the Dems have to make up 140,000 vote deficit from 2012

Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 27, 2016 03:32 PM (+oWEl)

449 #9 It is disheartening. Like, Ace, I'm not really a
"conservative". (I prefer "radical Jeffersonian" as a descriptor, partly
because nobody gets it.)


Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 02:13 PM (7zeA4)
I like this - I like it a lot. I think we need a new party - the Jeffersonian Party. Here's an excerpt of the article I've linked below.
=======================



The Declaration of Independence, a document upon which numerous
governments and institutions throughout the world, including the United
Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights, are based, was
approved by Congress on July 4, 1776. The words Jefferson penned are as
radical as they come. In the brief preamble alone, Jefferson
introduces the idea that God, not the government, is the source of
rights, that all people are created equal and possess inalienable
rights, while establishing the authority of the citizenry to use
whatever means necessary, including force, to throw off a despotic
government, or a government that no longer serves the needs of the
people. As Jefferson stated, the government receives its power from the
"consent of the governed" and the people have the right to "alter or
abolish" a government that becomes destructive, instituting a new
government and laying out new principles that better protect the
"Safety and Happiness" of the people.

One revolution was not enough for Jefferson, however. In a later
letter to James Madison, Jefferson stated, "A little rebellion, now and
then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as in
the physical...it is a medicine necessary for the sound health of the
government." In fact, Jefferson was so convinced of the value of
frequent, publicly-driven rebellions that he advocated for a new
rebellion approximately every twenty years. In a 1787 letter to William
Smith, John Adams' secretary and son-in-law, Jefferson wrote: "[G]od
forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion . . . the
tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
patriots tyrants. It is its natural manure."

To suggest that American citizens turn to violence and bloodshed to
ensure their liberty was, and still is, a radical idea. Although
Jefferson was not an advocate of unnecessary violence, he was so firmly
entrenched in his beliefs in the pursuit of liberty and its guarantee
that he encouraged whatever means necessary to be used to secure it. As
Jefferson wrote, "what country can preserve its liberties, if the
rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the
spirit of resistance? Let them take to arms."

In fact, Jefferson advocated the right of all citizens to carry arms
in order to protect themselves against the tyranny of the government
and the infringement of their liberties by fellow citizens. Writing to
his nephew, Peter Carr, in 1785, Jefferson stated, "As to the species
of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to
the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the
mind...Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your
walks."

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/thomas-jefferson-a-true-american-radical

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the Deplorable Standard Rednecks at October 27, 2016 03:32 PM (BcNLK)

450 It's the lesser of two evils & I was never on Trump Train, I wanted Ted Cruz. I know most think he's an opportunist, but he believes in The Constitution & is conservative. Cruz has to smooth his personality & I think he will be contender in 2020, if we live through Hillary as POTUS.
That woman is Evil!

Posted by: Carol at October 27, 2016 03:32 PM (sj3Ax)

451 One story about Twitter from yahoofinance is proclaiming how great they are doing with better than expected earnings for the third quarter.

Immediately above it is YahooNews story about Twitter failing in a merger and the struggling social network is having to counter losses by laying off employees.

One story is two hours old, the other is eight.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 27, 2016 03:32 PM (oDUj/)

452
I think so, although I can't remember his last name either. Was he one of the idiots who ran off to Illinois in a hissy fit?



Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 03:24 PM (u0lmX)
=============================================

No but he defended them. IIRC he was in the Dem infrastructure there, but kept going on Twitter with wild - I mean wacko - accusations like "Walker will sell the Packers!" and crap like that. He got so drunk one night I think he crashed into a tree after a Twitter tirade. They made him resign. He was always swearing at Walker and then in the next breath he would call on the Blessed Mother to make Walker croak. Stuff like that.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 03:32 PM (bpfzP)

453 >>>>A short article about what Tricare will and will not pay for. It might shock you
.
.
.
.Won't shock me, I have had to use Tricare since 1999 when I retired from the Navy.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 27, 2016 03:32 PM (iONHu)

454 >>>.45 acp & a pair of 44DD's FTW!
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 03:29 PM (AoLFQ)

Remove bras prior to firing for safety reasons!!!
👍

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy, shooting 🔫 with Winona at October 27, 2016 03:32 PM (LhdNI)

455 425 You idiots, it means nothing if GOP is doing better compared to 2012 early vote numbers if Dems are improving their numbers by more, lol.
...
No shit. But are they?
------------
Two things can't be true (1) Trump is polling well with blacks, and (2) Democrats are improving turnout.

I guess we will find out come November.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 27, 2016 03:32 PM (vV/gB)

456 You know, eff that musket business. All I got is autoloaders.

Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2016 03:32 PM (tewYv)

457 I am disguising my identity in order to prevent my being bullied by Ace's Horde of Morons.

But I must say you people who put the Supreme Court or the Rule of Law or the national security of our country above the hurt feelings my wife and I experience when we painstakingly and carefully read and dwell upon each and every single email and tweet that says something personally hurtful about me and my family are nothing but bullies.

Never Trump! If Hillary wins, we can count on Steiner to come and save us!

Posted by: David Belgian at October 27, 2016 03:33 PM (hA1V+)

458 Basically, the Clintons and Gore hate each other.

So what changed? What was promised?
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers

Money and attention for that idiot Al Gore.

He will get to be some kind of enviro-commissar in the Hillary Regime.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at October 27, 2016 03:33 PM (RFeQD)

459
Wasn't that Joe Wilson?

Posted by: Glenn Beck at October 27, 2016 03:33 PM (rFQmw)

460 It's thrippy to troll around

IIRC Thwip! was actually a Don Martin sound effect.

Posted by: DaveA at October 27, 2016 03:33 PM (8J/Te)

461 On November 9 the question will be asked and answered:
How did Hillary lose her Inevitable Indomitable Lead?
..............

WHY AM I NOT 50 POINTS AHEAD YOU MIGHT ASK??!!??

Posted by: Hillarrhoids at October 27, 2016 03:34 PM (HgMAr)

462 378 you know, with the sound turned off, Moochelle looks like she could be selling a no stick frying pan.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (2JQBv)
.............

could be the type she used to give Barry that huge scar on the back of his head
Posted by: wth

The way I remember it, that was a donkey punch scar.

Posted by: Reggie at October 27, 2016 03:34 PM (kfcYC)

463 Hey, shouldn't this be a guns and boobies thread by now?


.45 acp & a pair of 44DD's FTW!
Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 03:29 PM (AoLFQ
....

9mm and 9" (for the 'Ettes)

Posted by: ajmojo at October 27, 2016 03:34 PM (1H9ox)

464 "I HATED Civ V. Absolutely hated it."

Me too. It felt like they decided Civ Revolutions for consoles, where you could finish a game in like two hours, was the future; basically, catering to filthy casuals.

I played Civilization I, from 1990. I played Civ 2, Civ 3, Civ 4, Colonization, Alpha Centauri, and even Call to Power.

I friggin' *loathed* Civ 5. It was simple, unbalanced, and insultingly easy. AI was awful. Apparently they worked on that, and then introduced more complexity later, but only if you bought the expansions?

F that. I still play Civ IV, using the Realism Invictus mod.

Posted by: Apostate at October 27, 2016 03:35 PM (zCupF)

465
I think the whole 'safe space' thing on campus is a way for the millennials to rationalize and legitimize bullying of their favorite targets -- people who have a different point of view.


Their lack of understanding of free and open dialogue astounds me.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 27, 2016 03:35 PM (OZmbA)

466
Two reasons to vote Trump - He Fights and He Will Restore Laughter to our Nation. I'm all in on fighting and laughing. I will use any device to kill the postmodern Puritans that infest us. Trump is the wooden stake and the silver bullet.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 27, 2016 02:47 PM (vV/gB)

Reason 3 - the looks on the faces of the MFM

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2016 03:08 PM (493sH)








As I said yesterday, Trump is Maxim #20 of the Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries

"If you're not willing to shell your own position, you're not willing to win."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 27, 2016 03:35 PM (XWkhW)

467 I wonder how many of Taylor Swift's fans would or wouldn't care if she endorsed Trump.

and Moochelle looks kind of... big from the side.

a view from the back of the room, I don't think that the crowd was very big.

Posted by: mallfly SuPreme at October 27, 2016 03:18 PM (2JQBv)




Once you get Aunt Esther's ass into a room there's very little room for anything else

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2016 03:35 PM (493sH)

468 460


Wasn't that Joe Wilson?

Posted by: Glenn Beck at October 27, 2016 03:33 PM (rFQmw)


Sorry. Right you are.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable at October 27, 2016 03:36 PM (GX63o)

469 "Filthy casuals"

Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2016 03:36 PM (fA75F)

470 www.theamericanmirror.com/video- hillary-stumbles-boarding-campaign-plane/

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 27, 2016 03:36 PM (2fWgq)

471 Hey, shouldn't this be a guns and boobies thread by now?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 27, 2016 03:26 PM (8ZskC)
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Posted by: bluebell at October 27, 2016 03:37 PM (uHcnA)

472 "who betrayed you"

Ah. So not supporting your preferred candidate is treason now, and punishable by death.

Noted.

Posted by: Apostate at October 27, 2016 03:37 PM (zCupF)

473 Or, I suppose, "death" since it's supposed to be a metaphor. Wink.

Posted by: Apostate at October 27, 2016 03:37 PM (zCupF)

474 9mm and 9" (for the 'Ettes)
Posted by: ajmojo at October 27, 2016 03:34 PM (1H9ox)


And we have found another Dem pollster.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 27, 2016 03:37 PM (B+qrE)

475 "Climate Change" has been mostly ignored in the campaign.

It ranks below Scary Clowns in a list of what most worries Americans, but it could have been a wedge issue with the BernieBots.

ManBearPig needs Trump to lose else "Climate Change" will get put into dustbin of history.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2016 03:37 PM (r1fLd)

476 My version of Civ is the absolute best. Your version of Civ sucks ... as do you.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 27, 2016 03:38 PM (XAbde)

477
Dilbert is sooooooo sexy with his semi-erect tie.


I'd hit that.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at October 27, 2016 03:38 PM (OZmbA)

478 Ya know how to start a war with the Russians?

Weaken our Military so much that they have no fear of getting adventerous and aggressive.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 27, 2016 03:38 PM (zp+j1)

479 I mean wacko - accusations like "Walker will sell the Packers!" and crap like that. He got so drunk one night I think he crashed into a tree after a Twitter tirade. They made him resign. He was always swearing at Walker and then in the next breath he would call on the Blessed Mother to make Walker croak. Stuff like that.


Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 03:32 PM (bpfzP)

Oh, yeah, I remember now! So many nuts involved in the recall, it's hard to keep them straight. Didn't he also take a swing at a Walker supporter or something?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 03:38 PM (u0lmX)

480 NOOD

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 03:38 PM (bpfzP)

481 At some point we have to give the Left what they really want - the spanking Daddy never gave them. Do it for the children.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 27, 2016 03:38 PM (vV/gB)

482 Miley -- That's what I'm talking about, and though I don't think the rebellions need be violent per se the threat of violence must be there.

Consider it a "vote of no confidence" thing. You're nice. Until it's time to be NOT nice.

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 03:38 PM (7zeA4)

483 Attorney General of Texas issues arrest warrant for Clinton campaign officials in light of recent voting machine irregularities. Officials with the AG office, on condition of anonymity, said there was sufficient evidence against the campaign to indicate that ballot tampering was widespread and well organized.

AG's from several other states where electronic voting machines are in use are said to be monitoring Texas' legal initiatives against the Clinton campaign and unnamed 'persons of interest' involved in supplying and maintaining the machines.

Arrests are said to be imminent.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 27, 2016 03:39 PM (4ng05)

484
Ah. So not supporting your preferred candidate is treason now, and punishable by death.


Yeah, dummy.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2016 03:39 PM (rFQmw)

485 Didn't he also take a swing at a Walker supporter or something?



Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 03:38 PM (u0lmX)
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Yeah that sounds familiar. He was a real whack job. Funny as heck. I'll have to do an internet search for him.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 03:39 PM (bpfzP)

486 Once you get Aunt Esther's ass into a room there's very little room for anything else



Mooch gave up sex for food. Now she can't even get into her own pants!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 27, 2016 03:39 PM (AoLFQ)

487 NOOD
Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck


Nood?

Get some clothes on, young lady!!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at October 27, 2016 03:40 PM (RFeQD)

488 Whoa. Things look to be getting serious in Texas.

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 03:41 PM (bpfzP)

489 425 You idiots, it means nothing if GOP is doing better compared to 2012 early vote numbers if Dems are improving their numbers by more, lol. "

Uh, why would they be improving? Because the charisma of Granny Canklepants is sooo overwhelming, drawing in new voters, bringing blacks to the polls in legion?

It could be that they're improving because well, a lot of people have died since 2012.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 27, 2016 03:41 PM (u0lmX)

490 My wife thinks Trump is an ass and crude. She is standing in line to vote right now in a line of 150 people in Denton County, Texas, which is heavily Republican. The line goes out of the building, around to the parking lot, and people are still getting out of cars to get in line at 2:50 in the afternoon. She is voting for TRUMP. How many women are there like her in this state? Guess we will find out.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at October 27, 2016 03:42 PM (JZJ9v)

491 Maybe the Civ series could do a religious variation...

Like Jews vs Christendom vs the Reformation and Muslims and Catholic Church, etc
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at October 27, 2016 03:31 PM (XfRKW)



IIRC, there are mods that let you do that.

Posted by: alexthechick - my poor redheaded stepmules at October 27, 2016 03:42 PM (mf5HN)

492 Yeah, that argument was hilarious:

(1) "Trump didn't get a majority."
(2) "No one did."
(1) "If you add them all together it is a majority NeverTrump."
(2) "If you add them altogether it is a majority NeverCruz (or NeverRubio, NeverJeb, NeverWhomever). Funny the way that works out."
(1) "Trump did not get a majority."
(2) "He got more than any other single candidate."
(1) *pause* "Trump did not get a majority."

And on and on.Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Purchase a Self-Denouncement Kit from the Outrage Outlet! at October 27, 2016 03:24 PM (hLRSq)

You're being disenguous. The argument, that Trump never had a50+%of the primary vote,which is what most people think when they think 'majority', is true.

It's also irrelevent to the outcome. Besides, the primaries started out with what? 14 candidates? 16? A ridiculous number of candidates were cluttering the stage, with most of them running out of pure vanity or to sell books or whatever.

If Jeb Bush had somehow caught on (God knows how), the same argument could've been made against him but it would be just as fallacious.

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2016 03:42 PM (OGbEB)

493 Get some clothes on, young lady!!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at October 27, 2016 03:40 PM (RFeQD)
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You're not the boss of me, Bossy! oh wait

Posted by: grammie winger - the Cubs did not suck at October 27, 2016 03:42 PM (bpfzP)

494
471 www.theamericanmirror.com/video- hillary-stumbles-boarding-campaign-plane/

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 27, 2016 03:36 PM (2fWgq)








Three things (other than the stumble). Look at how CAREFULLY she takes every step. She knows she's under scrutiny, and she's terrified of being filmed doing another faceplant.

Also, check out how the staff get all set up for the Frau to do the stair walk. It's almost military in it's precision, minimizing the time she spends in danger of public humiliation.

And lastly, to her credit, she doesn't have nearly as many problems with the umbrella as Chocolate Fonzie had.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 27, 2016 03:43 PM (XWkhW)

495 While the Clinton people call Trumpers Nazis it's actually the Clinton people fulfilling the role of the Brown Shirts; the SA of Ernst Rhoem.

Posted by: Colin S Fincter at October 27, 2016 03:43 PM (0a1T6)

496 I am Spartacus!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at October 27, 2016 03:43 PM (Nwg0u)

497 Carol --

I'm convinced that "Cruz is an opportunist" cry is because, like Trump, Cruz threatened the livelihood of the uniclass.

I would've loved to see him win. I would've voted for him. But I think he, and truly ANY non-Trump candidate, would've been absolute toast by now. Unlike the #NeverTrump camp, I don't think Trump is the candidate who can lose to Clinton. I mean, he may well lose--but if it were Walker or Perry (e.g.) the media would have them (literally) eating babies. Cruz would (obviously) be the head of the American Taliban. Rubio's pathological thirst would be indication of his alien (space alien, not Cuban) origins, etc.

Sounds dumb but never forget: Romney gave that woman cancer. Cheney caused Katrina. Reagan is to blame for AIDS.

The only non-Dem who can win in this brave new world is the one, like Trump, who doesn't respect those who are attacking him.

Posted by: moviegique at October 27, 2016 03:44 PM (7zeA4)

498 ManBearPig needs Trump to lose else "Climate Change" will get put into dustbin of history.

Correct, that's his entire motivation for backing Hillary. Trump will not put up with that crap. I don't buy him in a lot of areas, but I think he sees climate change as a bunch of hogwash

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 27, 2016 03:44 PM (39g3+)

499 My wife thinks Trump is an ass and crude.

-
That's hard to disagree with.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at October 27, 2016 03:46 PM (Nwg0u)

500 I am Spartacus!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With More Je Ne Sais Quoi! at October 27, 2016 03:43 PM (Nwg0u)
___________________

No. I AM SPARTACUS!

Posted by: tommylotto at October 27, 2016 03:47 PM (A3a8d)

501 ManBearPig needs Trump to lose else "Climate Change" will get put into dustbin of history.

-
Didja see more people are afraid of clowns than global warming.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at October 27, 2016 03:48 PM (Nwg0u)

502 If Scott Adams endorses Trump then he must also support the sexual assault of women, at least that is what the MSM is working hard to get you to believe, including Megyn Kelly.

The end justifies the means, no holds barred. Anything goes, with no consequences. Ethics are of no concern. Whatever it takes to "win" - destroy all who get in the way. Repeat lies continually and loudly from many angles until people no longer have an opinion, but instead, have those opinions turned into deep beliefs. Beliefs are much harder to change. Much easier to control people if they are stuck in their beliefs and never question them.

It is Orwellian and it has been going on with the MSM for decades.

Remember the faked documents Dan Rather created to attack Bush? It was a expert in the field, a Democrat from CA, who originally called BS on it - not because he liked Bush (he didn't) but because it was BS and he didn't like BS. The MSM went after him and then after any blogger who talked about the faked documents. There were even efforts to essentially make blogging illegal to stop the flow of information (the information they didn't want people to hear anyway) and lots of discrediting (bloggers are just idiots at home in their pj's).

Control of information is powerful. The current way the MSM takes control is by doing a Denial of Service attack on people's ears and eyes - constant bombardment over and over and over from many directions until you can't think of anything else and shut down.

Posted by: markytom at October 27, 2016 03:49 PM (yEAdf)

503 www.theamericanmirror.com/video- hillary-stumbles-boarding-campaign-plane/

You mean Broomstick 1?

Sorry, that link has been suppressed.

Posted by: The Secret Service at October 27, 2016 03:52 PM (BcNLK)

504 I am so glad ace realized that he was deplorable. He was tempted to go the way of Little Green Footballs like Allahpundit at Hot Air. He went right up to the brink, but at the last moment he could do it.

He realizes that Trump is not our candidate. Trump is our murder weapon and the GOPe is our intended victim.

Posted by: tommylotto at October 27, 2016 03:52 PM (A3a8d)

505 What is starting to get on my nerves this election is the sanctimonious "I just can't lower myself to vote for Trump". I will admit to voting third party in the past, heck I am a true independent who has often voted based on resume, personal factors, and prior work history. Times have changed folks. Look around. I used to be able to find at least one decent person to vote for even if it was for a school board position. Honestly, both nationally and locally what I see is unmitigated CRAP. Every single solitary complaint about Trump can be said about Hillary. Gary Johnson is a freaking joke (and I lean libertarian), and although well meaning Jill Stein is clueless. Locally I have an uncontested democrat for Senate, and my congressional district is has the standard puppets of both parties. Principles are great when the scales are tipped in favor of law and order, rule of law, and constitutional governance. Unfortunately this election is similar to the choice Miklós Horthy had as he ruled Hungary and witnessed the rise of Hitler. Make nicey-nice with Hitler and save as many people for as long as possible or be principled and be invaded like Poland. We are now in that position. We have no co-equal branches of government. The Republicans are NOT a check on the lawlessness of the democrats and the courts are no better. This is what either Hillary or Trump will get. Knowing these facts is it more principled to allow a criminal who has openly engaged in government corruption to have the reigns of power? A leader who allowed 4 government employees to die to cover up her corruption? Or is it more principled to go with the uncouth loudmouth liberal who may save some of your fellow countrymen? Who everybody hates and at best will be a lame duck from day one?

Posted by: lightning at October 27, 2016 03:53 PM (pwONV)

506 In case people have forgotten: McCain got less than fifty percent (47%) of the primary vote and I don't remember anyone questioning whether he was the legitimate nominee.

Posted by: Afroman at October 27, 2016 03:53 PM (CRNWY)

507 That's a fine, persuasive piece of writing.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 27, 2016 03:53 PM (S5hBU)

508 Maybe the Civ series could do a religious variation...

Like Jews vs Christendom vs the Reformation and Muslims and Catholic Church, etc

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers


Religions were An Thing for the last several iterations, including in V custom ones. (I always founded some variation on Bacon, so when a city-state asked for my religion, the game announced they wanted Bacon...)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at October 27, 2016 03:54 PM (9krrF)

509 Arrests are said to be imminent.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 27, 2016 03:39 PM (4ng05)

I'm not holding my breath, but popcorn's at the ready!

Posted by: The Secret Service at October 27, 2016 03:55 PM (BcNLK)

510 I voted for Alfred E Neuman because this year I knew I could only do worse.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at October 27, 2016 03:55 PM (shulD)

511 My version of Civ is the absolute best. Your version of Civ sucks ... as do you.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 27, 2016 03:38 PM (XAbde)

Different strokes and all that. I'm fine with Civ V because I'm a bigtime war monger. I'm usually at war with about half the Civs by the Industrial Era anyway.

I don't conquer, I destroy. I would rather see a couple dozen burnt out cites near me than have Persopolis owned by my English Horde of Longbowmen.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 27, 2016 03:59 PM (d76uN)

512 I guess luckily for the Hillary Trolls I live in pro Trump Paducah Ky, I've tried my best to bait all the Liberal Hillary thugs to no success. I have the largest anti Hillary display in the area, yet all I get is car after car stopping for photo's. So it looks like Hillary thugs are only " brave" when they are in perceived friendly environment. So I say to all the Liberal trolls and RATs//Go to he!!// Hillary for Prison 2016... Vote Trump if nothing more than a big F%^K you to the establishment of both party's.

Posted by: jhaley59 at October 27, 2016 04:11 PM (f4z3u)

513 299 Pick an alpha plant name, like Snapdragon.

Venus flytrap

*
*
I miss the '70s, when we had actual records on actual turntables.

Posted by: Venus Flytrap @ WKRP at October 27, 2016 04:12 PM (QYQV7)

514 XD9 and Lana Rhoades. Amazing, both of them.

I have played a LOT of Civ V, Civ 4 was better in a lot of ways but I enjoyed Civ V for what it was. My current addiction is Stellaris. Not as good as Master of Orion but still enjoyable.

Also, would love to keep Taylor Swift out of any camp. Good on her, even if its from silence. I've talked with folks who've met her in person and I've liked what I've heard. Then there's those legs...............

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 27, 2016 04:20 PM (sh70B)

515 My immediate distant family has voted Conservative since as far back as I can recall. The only outlier is an aunt who went on for a masters degree at a top school and considers the rest of us rubes. Our Clan has argued, debated and voted lockstep since Reagan 12, and both Bushes, my parents before that. Our "fights" were limited to goofy primary exchanges but once the candidate was in, we went all bumper stickers and signs arm in arm.

The last eight years has changed that dynamic. My parents are now into their late 70's (my 4 sibs and I in our 50's) and rightly fear America is headed swiftly to destruction. They see gone the wonderful years they spent here as immigrants from Italy and Scotland expecting their grandkids would have the same love for the US. But they've been forced to sell the cabin, the family business went under, and they're inundated (we all are) with more and more disgusting displays of new liberalism/progressivism taking over every institution whether public or private.

How the hell do you expect those of us out here to respond to this - with calm and well-thought debate? We've tried that to death, Ace. Perhaps you are too young to know what it's been like to lose something you never had and just expect everyone to have your sense of unending wit and clear thought on everything political.

My family has now devolved into camps - we're all fighting for Trump but for different reasons. "Trump stands for the worst but he's all we've got to save us from ruin." How in the hell do you expect most people to process that sh-tty choice? With quiet aplomb and kindly wise words? No, we're fu--king fighting mad and it's coming thru in text. It's been sickening and ugly between us to say the least but I don't blame a single one of them.

How about venting your anger at what brought us to this point rather than backhanded comments at those of us who support true Conservatives but are struggling to do so. Maybe you're just too smart for the rest of us.

Posted by: Smitty27 at October 27, 2016 04:21 PM (g9d8D)

516 96 This is a complete mess.

There once was a troll named Petunia,
who sensed hope and wanted to prune ya.
"I talk down the Frump
at the WaPo," but Trump
was the real one she wanted to ruin, yah?

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at October 27, 2016 04:24 PM (lpHNf)

517 497 Sounds dumb but never forget: Romney gave that woman cancer.

I could never forgive Romney for putting women into binders.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at October 27, 2016 04:30 PM (lpHNf)

518 ...Locally I have an uncontested democrat for Senate...
Posted by: lightning at October 27, 2016 03:53 PM (pwONV)
You should count yourself lucky. Here in CA I have a choice between two Democrats. It's like that bar in the Blues Brothers. "Oh, we have both kinds, Country and Western."

Posted by: tommylotto at October 27, 2016 04:33 PM (A3a8d)

519 I'm curious about the followup to that endorsement. Scott Adams gives Trump a 98% chance of being elected, just weeks after saying Hillary will likely win because of 'octopus' attacks. He says something changed, but says nothing more. What happened in between to make him so confident of Trump's victory?

Posted by: MikeN at October 27, 2016 04:33 PM (o/eHL)

520 Ace, youre exactly right with all of this. I was for Trump from the beginning, basically because of his immigration stance. However, if he did not get the nomination, I wouldve 'held my nose' again...and voted for whoever it was that was against HRC. Just like I did in '92, '96,2000, '04,'08,'12....I did not like all of those candidates, obviously, but....they were a million times better than whatever the Dem party threw out. The GOP has failed as a Party. Period. Same with most of the supposed 'Conservative' intelligentsia. At least with the Commies, you know what youre getting. And they generally dont do circular firing squads, usually. The GOP has lied to us about what they supposedly stand for, for decades now. I cannot wait to change my party affiliation on 9/9, no matter who wins. I'm done with them.

Posted by: johny boy at October 27, 2016 04:33 PM (UNXWZ)

521 Yes. yes. yes.

My conservative friends can draw a line, a line of respect. Thye back off when your are uncomfortable. My liberal friends are almost unbearable - have been since Clinton.

Posted by: George Orwell''s ghost at October 27, 2016 04:43 PM (VPvxh)

522 So quit Twitter, then. Problem solved.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at October 27, 2016 04:44 PM (Ft3+l)

523 "Let's Roll!"

Posted by: Mike at October 27, 2016 04:46 PM (iDxq/)

524 Ask a progressive some time why Clinton didn't just join the board of the American Red Cross instead of setting up his own foundation. the only possible answer is theft and corruption.

Posted by: George Orwell''s ghost at October 27, 2016 04:48 PM (VPvxh)

525 Yup, yup and more yup.

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at October 27, 2016 04:54 PM (3LVya)

526 Getting thoughtful here - one thing I have noticed, being old and all, is the recent inability for people to say, and accept two things in life 1) there are many things I don't know much about, certinly not enough to have formed a steadfast opinion on, and 2) there are many more things I don't give a shit about, one way or another.

Posted by: George Orwell''s ghost at October 27, 2016 04:57 PM (VPvxh)

527 Mega dittos. With one caveat. I'm willing to give the ttumpkins the benefiit of the doubt since the ikileaks emails showing that the DNC is one big trolling organization.

Posted by: Natrium at October 27, 2016 05:04 PM (tsloe)

528 The GOP would be an opposition party, but for one thing--since Obama (and before, but especially since) they've been absolutely terrified of Media criticism. You can tell they just start shivering when it looks like they might get Stern Looks.

Simultaneously, they really love the Media and they see them as the best possible constituency to have.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 27, 2016 05:21 PM (8mIih)

529 Purge? The crybabies can't even hang with us now, with Trump still in the thick of things and by some measures even favored to win. What are the pathetic quislings gonna do if Trump loses and we get pissed off for real?

Posted by: csmats at October 27, 2016 05:35 PM (TMqXK)

530 "I have noticed, with great chagrin, that many conservatives support the Social Bullying Model -"

As you take to the web to browbeat anyone who needs something more to than "standing up to social bullying" (Gasp! Will you be OK after someone tweeted something mean?) to fill the job George Washington once had.

Posted by: Poor ace. at October 27, 2016 06:22 PM (p8YKk)

531 "Incidentally, the NeverTrump crowd never fails to insult me by subtweet..."

LOL, maybe it's because you are so thin skinned: "You are blocked from following @AceofSpadesHQ and viewing @AceofSpadesHQ's Tweets."

Posted by: Poor ace. at October 27, 2016 06:31 PM (p8YKk)

532 Sorry if I didn't find it in the comments but what are the two articles explaining why a vote for Hillary mentioned by Ace?

Posted by: justaguy at October 27, 2016 06:43 PM (UnMRd)

533 Great post. I was a never-Trumper. However, the blatant corruption of the FBI, DoS, and the magnitude of the corruption of the State Department regarding the Clinton Foundation changed my mind. I am also voting for Trump to push back against the pathetic bias of the media and the bullying of the SJWs both left and right. Screw 'em.

Posted by: Joel at October 28, 2016 05:32 AM (N5wlQ)

534 I knew nothing about the attack on Bone because I have blocked all anti-Trump news sources from my feed. Funny how that works.

Posted by: Skzion at October 28, 2016 12:18 PM (kFXpv)

535 "Amazing it took Trump, of all people, to reveal the level of rot in the Republican party.
Posted by: Grimaldi at October 27, 2016 02:31 PM (V"

Yes indeed. I had the same thought.

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Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat