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Hillary Is Not a "Soulless, Pragmatic Corporatist Who Will Preserve the Status Quo," as Pro-Hillary "Conservatives" Claim.
She Sees Herself as a Messianic Joan of Arc to Deliver the Left's Revelation to the Earth.
This post is by "Tusk." I had an exchange with him about this delusion of the pro-Hillary NeverTrump brigades and suggested he write his thoughts up.
His post entirely after this colon: Lots of people think Hillary's a soulless, transactional, pragmatic, cynical pol. I wish she were--that would limit the damage she can do. I fear she's something far worse. She's not soulless. She's not cynical. She's messianic. She got into politics through religion. Youth activism in her church was her gateway to wanting political power--to save others, not to aggrandize herself, you understand. Her graduation speech in college called for a "more immediate, ecstatic and penetrating [odd choice of words there!] mode of living." And now that she's on the cusp of becoming a world-historical figure by breaking the Glass Ceiling Patriarchy Boys' Club, she’s going to give us that "mode of living," whether we want it or not. Regular politics won't do for Hillary. She's going to re-educate us. This is why it boggles the mind that any social conservative could prefer Hillary to Trump. Sure, Trump is vulgar and indecent as an individual. But he doesn't want to reprogram society to write over what's left of traditional morality, replacing it with an "it-takes-a-village," communitarian love of Big Sister. In Trump's world, even though he himself is obviously a social liberal and it's painful when he tries to fake otherwise, pockets of traditionalist resistance to recent social change will be allowed to exist. Not so much in Hillary's world. It took her forever to admit she wants gay marriage, but she's on the train now, and something tells me the DOJ, EEOC, Ed Department, etc. in her administration are going to have the zeal of the convert when it comes to continuing the cultural jihad launched under Obama. The late Michael Kelly nailed it in 1993, when he wrote a New York Times Magazine profile of her titled "Saint Hillary." It opened:Since she discovered, at the age of 14, that for people less fortunate than herself the world could be very cruel, Hillary Rodham Clinton has harbored an ambition so large that it can scarcely be grasped. She would like to make things right. She is 45 now [how time flies! -- Tusk] and she knows that the earnest idealisms of a child of the 1960's may strike some people as naive or trite or grandiose. But she holds to them without any apparent sense of irony or inadequacy.She wants to "make things right"--that is, she wants to make us right. And right now we're all so, so wrong to her. That's why it was so natural (and telling, and terrifying) for her to call her political enemies "irredeemable." That's why she sees enemies and conspiracies behind every bush. That's why she thinks everyone who opposes her needs to be reeducated or crushed. Trump really only wants to make his opponents think differently in one regard: He wants them to think Trump is awesome. Beyond that, as to what you think and say, he doesn't care. Hillary wants to make her opponents think differently across the board. She wants to save our souls. That's scary. Afterthought by Ace. Tusk had mentioned Hillary's sudden conversion from Goldwater Girl to firebreathing feminist priestess in just a few years. But he didn't mention it in the post. Let me comment quickly on that: That sort of conversion -- from believing in one thing intensely one day, then believing even more intensely the exact opposite of what was just intensely believed the week before -- betrays the mind of the Natural Born Zealot, someone who feels philosophically uncomfortable and psychically out-of-sorts unless they have some Grand Cause to join in, some great crusade which will allow them to put the heretics to the sword. I don't see myself doing that. I may abandon the GOP -- actually, I already have -- and I may join the Democrats as a make-peace-with-our-permanent-rulers pragmatic move, suing for peace with our new permanent masters after the GOP has proven itself to be without heart and determined to surrender. But I will never actually carry their banners nor deliver their sermons for them. I'm a bit too old to have a sudden conversion over political beliefs. The sorts of people who do this sort of thing -- the 180 degree full reverse in all beliefs, while maintaining a militant and dogmatic belief throughout the period of "evolution" -- are Natural Born True Believers, not "pragmatists." They must believe something. They must. They have to. Their minds abhor the vacuum of non-belief. Their brains recoil in disgust from doubt. Credo ergo sum -- I believe, therefore I am.
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"In our records, my son, we know that those who would make heaven
tomorrow make hell today. All the robbers who ever stole and all the
conquerers who ever conquered and all the petty evil men who preyed on
the helpless have not, in their counted history, caused as much massive
grief as one man who attempts to save mankind and gets others to follow
him."
- Chiun, reigning Master of the Glorious House of Sinanju
tomorrow make hell today. All the robbers who ever stole and all the
conquerers who ever conquered and all the petty evil men who preyed on
the helpless have not, in their counted history, caused as much massive
grief as one man who attempts to save mankind and gets others to follow
him."
- Chiun, reigning Master of the Glorious House of Sinanju
Posted by: Caiwyn at October 17, 2016 04:32 PM (hiR6+)
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She would like to make things right.
Isn't this also the story of Obama? All his hollering about he was going to "fundamentally transform" AMerica?
Isn't this also the story of Obama? All his hollering about he was going to "fundamentally transform" AMerica?
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at October 17, 2016 04:32 PM (raBhU)
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I wanna get saved!
Posted by: Afroman at October 17, 2016 04:33 PM (id0ly)
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Steal your soul and every document she can find withbad things about her.
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 04:34 PM (sWbjH)
Posted by: MFM at October 17, 2016 04:34 PM (tewYv)
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Don't that put a lump in ya throat.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at October 17, 2016 04:34 PM (xInes)
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Posted by: IC at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (a0IVu)
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Trump may be a robber baron, but Clinton is the omnipotent moral busybody who will torment us without end, for she does so with the approval of her own conscience.
See, C.S. Lewis
See, C.S. Lewis
Posted by: wooga at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (QlC+L)
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Isn't this also the story of Obama? All his hollering about he was going to "fundamentally transform" AMerica?
Obama wasn't doing it for primarily religious reasons, he's just a boring technocratic commie that spouts canned Marxism on cue.
Now, his foreign policy, in which you could fairly say the net effect has been trying to re-establish an Islamic caliphate, *that's* religious.
Obama wasn't doing it for primarily religious reasons, he's just a boring technocratic commie that spouts canned Marxism on cue.
Now, his foreign policy, in which you could fairly say the net effect has been trying to re-establish an Islamic caliphate, *that's* religious.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (KUTP5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (zp+j1)
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Got it - CS Lewis. Because there is nothing new under the sun:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Read it again: It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
Nothing. New.
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Read it again: It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
Nothing. New.
Posted by: MFM at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (tewYv)
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The baptism lasts until you quit moving.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at October 17, 2016 04:36 PM (FiQYZ)
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The politics of meaning.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 17, 2016 04:36 PM (Q5Ymk)
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Oh and off stinky sock
Posted by: blaster at October 17, 2016 04:36 PM (tewYv)
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She will make Obama look like John Adams.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 04:36 PM (ko0V2)
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You got your mind right, Luke?
Posted by: Boss Hillary at October 17, 2016 04:36 PM (QM5S2)
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It hasn't gone unnoticed that I've been dehumanized by that bitch.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 17, 2016 04:36 PM (8GN8w)
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Posted by: IC at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (a0IVu)
Her, and the LEFT's, Intentions are not good. They are evil and fascist
Posted by: IC at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (a0IVu)
Her, and the LEFT's, Intentions are not good. They are evil and fascist
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 17, 2016 04:36 PM (zp+j1)
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The problem still remains, she is dishonest, incompetent and not that bright. She is extremely paranoid to boot. I am trying hard to find something worthwhile about her. Alas, I cannot find it. She fails the Hitler threshold of goodness - kind to dogs.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 17, 2016 04:36 PM (vV/gB)
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Obama thinks America is terrible and wants to make it better.
Hillary thinks we Americans are terrible and wants to make us better.
Obama thinks America is terrible and wants to make it better.
Hillary thinks we Americans are terrible and wants to make us better.
Posted by: ArthurK at October 17, 2016 04:37 PM (h53OH)
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Maybe she started out as a SJW but once she learned the benefits and adrenaline rush of unlimited money and power, all the idealism went right out the windah.
It's not the messianic complex that is problematic, it is the vindictive component that should alarm the citizenry.
It's not the messianic complex that is problematic, it is the vindictive component that should alarm the citizenry.
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2016 04:37 PM (nNdYv)
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F that evil bitch! Now to read the content.
Posted by: Beth M at October 17, 2016 04:38 PM (kiy9d)
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Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at October 17, 2016 04:38 PM (uPt3V)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 17, 2016 04:38 PM (zc3Db)
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It's not the messianic complex that is problematic, it is the vindictive component that should alarm the citizenry.
What you said...
What you said...
Posted by: deplorable donna at October 17, 2016 04:38 PM (O2RFr)
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18, Her, and the LEFT's, Intentions are not good. They are evil and fascist
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 17, 2016 04:36 PM (zp+j1)
Oh, I totally agree but in her mind, her intentions are all good and we are the stupid, angry, racists fools.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 17, 2016 04:36 PM (zp+j1)
Oh, I totally agree but in her mind, her intentions are all good and we are the stupid, angry, racists fools.
Posted by: IC at October 17, 2016 04:38 PM (a0IVu)
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11 Got it - CS Lewis. Because there is nothing new under the sun:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Read it again: It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
Nothing. New.
Posted by: MFM at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (tewYv)
We have long reached that point, to where the citizens are involved as well.
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Read it again: It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
Nothing. New.
Posted by: MFM at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (tewYv)
We have long reached that point, to where the citizens are involved as well.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 04:39 PM (ko0V2)
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So, she is like some women who are convinced that they can "change" the man they are dating/married to. Except in this case, the "man" is America and we can be changed. If not voluntarily, then through the soft, gentle hand of a coercion delivered by the government.
Which also explains why she has stayed with Bill for so long.
Which also explains why she has stayed with Bill for so long.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 17, 2016 04:39 PM (xq8JO)
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I disagree. She changed her mind on gay marriage, immigration and I'm sure others others if I cared to look. She's a control freak for sure and she's power hungry, but for herself - not a grand message. Look at her foundation. Stealing cash like a common hobo. A true believer would be putting that cash to work promoting her message. It isn't. It's going in her pocket. She's a common confidence huckster.
No message, just greed.
No message, just greed.
Posted by: Dang at October 17, 2016 04:39 PM (8b+oT)
Posted by: Chris Cillizza at October 17, 2016 04:40 PM (/m8T6)
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I think Hillary is a coat and tie radical. Why agitate from the outside when you can remake America from the inside.
The long march through the institutions.
She learned at the knee of alinsky.
The long march through the institutions.
She learned at the knee of alinsky.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 17, 2016 04:40 PM (Q5Ymk)
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Hence, "irredeemable" deplorables.
Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2016 04:40 PM (3Liv/)
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In a way most leftist leaders say they want to improve the world, raise up the downtrodden. That is the proposed goal of every revolution so far in history. They never seem reach that goal do they?
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 04:40 PM (sWbjH)
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FWIW, I can't think of a single Evangelical I know that's not on board with Trump (and in a big way) despite his personal life. So I don't think many social conservatives are going to abandon him.
My view on Hillary (and the Clintons in general) is that they aren't as radical idologically as Obama and his crew, but are far more corrupt.
I have zero doubt America would have been far better off had Hillary ben the Dem President instead of Obama.
My view on Hillary (and the Clintons in general) is that they aren't as radical idologically as Obama and his crew, but are far more corrupt.
I have zero doubt America would have been far better off had Hillary ben the Dem President instead of Obama.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 04:40 PM (6w7Vd)
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He's giving Hitlery far too much credit: she wants to sell America to the highest bidder. Russian, Chinese, Iranian, Saudi. it doesn't matter. She wants to enrich herself beyond all imagination. Virtually all human actions can be destilled down to a few base desires. Lust, greed, need for security, need for revenge.
She's a toxic cocktail of all of them, walking around in a drug induced haze.
She's a toxic cocktail of all of them, walking around in a drug induced haze.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (SeD0w)
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So I guess we'll all get to meet in meet space in the camps?
So at least that will be nice, right?
So at least that will be nice, right?
Posted by: Yo! at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (uPt3V)
37
Reminds me of a Firesign Theater quote. "You can believe me, because I never lie and I'm always right." That's our gal Hillary. Oh, and "She's no fun. She fell right over."
Posted by: JuJuBee at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (kma8f)
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Sorry not buying any f it.
Sorry not buying any f it.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (lKyWE)
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Well, this thread has given me the warm fuzzies.
I guess the idea of "the camps" wasn't so crazy after all.
I guess the idea of "the camps" wasn't so crazy after all.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (928Aa)
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Maybe. I think she is a cynical, power-mad bitch. No one who is not a cynic would have put up with Bill's bullshit for all those years. She did it for the reflected glow from him. Now, she wants to grab some of that glow for herself, but she is a dull thing by comparison to the charm boys, Barry and Bill and even Trump. God only knows what that makes her.
Posted by: huerfano at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (jkkMG)
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Oh, I totally agree but in her mind, her intentions are all good
Posted by: IC at October 17, 2016 04:38 PM (a0IVu)
Not at all. She knows that all she gets a kick out of is controlling people. She has no desire to be "good". That isn't her thing.
Posted by: IC at October 17, 2016 04:38 PM (a0IVu)
Not at all. She knows that all she gets a kick out of is controlling people. She has no desire to be "good". That isn't her thing.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (zc3Db)
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The quote from C.S. Lewis immediately comes to mind:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
The quote from C.S. Lewis immediately comes to mind:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (9P3OG)
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Since she's run out of so much memory, she's surely forgotten what her initial "good intentions" were. Whatever they were, they've been drastically warped because what is left is a money-grubbing, greedy, power-hungry, lying, thieving, murdering, soulless witch.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (CFc5L)
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On the bright side we will all be shredded from intermittent fasting in the camps! Check out my six, broheim!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (UVPUt)
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She compulsively consumes other people's money and lives to give herself meaning. She really has no center - witness the 800 advisors surrounding her every thought.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 17, 2016 04:42 PM (vV/gB)
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I think she may have started off with quasi-religious aspirations to change the world. I think she definitely has "daddy issues" and believes the whole feminist line.
But I honestly think at this point it's power for power's sake.
But I honestly think at this point it's power for power's sake.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2016 04:42 PM (Nox3c)
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Very well said, and it won't change their vote.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 17, 2016 04:42 PM (AroJD)
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Well, this thread has given me the warm fuzzies.
I guess the idea of "the camps" wasn't so crazy after all.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (928Aa)
They'd be for our own good, don't you know?
Well, this thread has given me the warm fuzzies.
I guess the idea of "the camps" wasn't so crazy after all.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (928Aa)
They'd be for our own good, don't you know?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Irredeemable Cycling Stars (TM) at October 17, 2016 04:42 PM (BK3ZS)
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She wants to change each and every one of us? As individuals?
I don't see the problem here.
Go long on shovels and hammers.
I don't see the problem here.
Go long on shovels and hammers.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 17, 2016 04:42 PM (8ZskC)
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So the Beast wants to change all Americans but she couldn't change her husband from being a life long adulterer.
So the Beast wants to change all Americans but she couldn't change her husband from being a life long adulterer.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 04:42 PM (493sH)
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And to think it was only twenty years ago that Hillary was just a Stalinist.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 17, 2016 04:42 PM (P/kVC)
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Wow. Who'd a thunk she lies gratuitously because she's trying to hide her messianic complex? You know, this person who tries to destroy rape victims, made herself co-president and tried to socialize our health care system without any statutory authority, let four good men die so the situation didn't hurt her political fortunes, won't tell anyone about her serious health issues, has scared the press weenies into colboration and has as her chief a guy who would make Goebbels green with envy?
Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2016 04:42 PM (V03pJ)
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The FAB has been rotten to the core for so long that she no longer even knows right from wrong. IF she ever did. She seems to me to be an evil SOB. I've never heard a kind word about her from anyone but one of her sycophants
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 17, 2016 04:42 PM (zp+j1)
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Hooooo kay. Well, not that she did not scare me before - but now she really scares the sh*t out of me. Nothing is scarier than someone who wants to change you using the all powerful government because you are not "good enough." And doing so because he/she/xer - f*ck who am I kidding, "it" - it feels it is the savior that has been "called" to do so for your own good. F*ck . We are f*cked. (looks suspiciously over shoulder, reaches for bourbon bottle, pours shot. Tips it back. Slams glass down and wipes mouth.). Completely f*cked.
Posted by: Publius Redux at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (Fb9aZ)
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Someone - again my memory - want to say maybe that guy who was a hateful lib but he saw through Clinton so righties dug him? Ace went to Israel with him, I think.
Anyway, he, or someone, described Bill Clinton as being entirely made up of appetite.
I don't think that of Hillary. She is a crusading warrior princess. AND she is greedy as eff.
Anyway, he, or someone, described Bill Clinton as being entirely made up of appetite.
I don't think that of Hillary. She is a crusading warrior princess. AND she is greedy as eff.
Posted by: blaster at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (tewYv)
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"It was clear to me that Secretary Clinton's temperament, leadership experience and commitment to America's foundational values make her the far better choice for president."
- Meg Whitman, Your 2010 GOP Candidate for CA Governor and Secretary of Transportation in the Hillary Clinton Administration
"It was clear to me that Secretary Clinton's temperament, leadership experience and commitment to America's foundational values make her the far better choice for president."
- Meg Whitman, Your 2010 GOP Candidate for CA Governor and Secretary of Transportation in the Hillary Clinton Administration
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (kdS6q)
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Hildebeest "Resting Bitch Face"
http://bit.ly/2dncgW3
http://bit.ly/2dncgW3
Posted by: Temporary Cubs Fan at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (PjWy4)
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So she's little different than the other self-loathing baby boomers. They sold out, have been appalled by the peasants, and they still believe in leftism (for others) and power above all else.
All this while living in mansions, peddling influence and globetrotting.
All this while living in mansions, peddling influence and globetrotting.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (326rv)
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Pol Pot had some good ideas too.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (8ZskC)
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I am getting that line of something like there is nothing so bad as those who want to do things to you for your own good.
Somebody else said that better than I, but its true.
I am getting that line of something like there is nothing so bad as those who want to do things to you for your own good.
Somebody else said that better than I, but its true.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (ODxAs)
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Can't wait for my serratus to be popping!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (UVPUt)
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"The sorts of people who do this sort of thing -- the 180 degree full reverse in all beliefs, while maintaining a militant and dogmatic belief throughout the period of "evolution" -- are Natural Born True Believers, not "pragmatists."
That describes David Brock perfectly. He "converted" to the cult of Hillary and lives to serve her.
That describes David Brock perfectly. He "converted" to the cult of Hillary and lives to serve her.
Posted by: Benji Carver at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (voOPb)
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Since she discovered, at the age of 14, that for people less fortunate than herself the world could be very cruel, Hillary Rodham Clinton has harbored an ambition so large that it can scarcely be grasped.
She would like to make things right.
By supporting abortion.
Mic
Drop.
She would like to make things right.
By supporting abortion.
Mic
Drop.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2016 04:44 PM (lFi5f)
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She will sell her "message" to the highest bidder.
Pay up and she'll speak up. Tweak her message to your taste. Tickle you ears. That's not the action of someone who sees themselves as a messiah.
Nope. She's not a true believer in anything.
Just greedy.
Pay up and she'll speak up. Tweak her message to your taste. Tickle you ears. That's not the action of someone who sees themselves as a messiah.
Nope. She's not a true believer in anything.
Just greedy.
Posted by: Dang at October 17, 2016 04:44 PM (8b+oT)
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She brought down Libya, joked about killing Gaddafi, all to help Sid Blumenthal's consulting business and whatever other shenanigans she cooked up w/Obama. That's a lot of blood on her hands, including at of 4 Americans, including her "friend Chris."
In one of she GS speeches she joked about giving a red state to China.
Har har har.
Hillary is evil.
In one of she GS speeches she joked about giving a red state to China.
Har har har.
Hillary is evil.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 17, 2016 04:44 PM (NOIQH)
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Embrace the power of "and"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 04:44 PM (39g3+)
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I don't know if I buy this.
She seems to meto be motivated by revenge. Her life is empty, hollow, and its obviously the workd's fault. We are going to have to pay for the sin of not loving her as she is entitled to.
As Trump said: "She has hate in her heart."
She seems to meto be motivated by revenge. Her life is empty, hollow, and its obviously the workd's fault. We are going to have to pay for the sin of not loving her as she is entitled to.
As Trump said: "She has hate in her heart."
Posted by: @votermom's phone at October 17, 2016 04:44 PM (Kieqn)
Posted by: wooga at October 17, 2016 04:44 PM (QlC+L)
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Hilary Clinton hated her father a Goldwater Republican end of story.
Hilary Clinton hated her father a Goldwater Republican end of story.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 17, 2016 04:44 PM (lKyWE)
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I'm in the process of updating the Mohammed Image Archive, and by sheer coincidence one of today's updates involves -- Hillary Clinton!
I'm uploading screenshots from "The Innocence of Muslims," and have written the following caption for them, explaining the whole story from the very beginning, as if to someone who has no prior knowledge of the scandal. Here is the caption -- any suggestions for corrections or edits?:
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In 2011, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a Coptic Christian originally from Egypt but living in the United States, decided to make a movie about the persecution of Copts in Egypt and about how the ideology at the root of Islam allows for and even commands oppression of non-Muslims. The film was to include actors portraying Mohammed, his family and followers performing scenes from the Qu'ran and Hadiths -- most of which (from a non-Muslim perspective) show Islam in a bad light. Nakoula rightfully suspected that it would be difficult to find actors for such a controversial film, so he instead announced in the casting call that it was going to be a film entitled Desert Warrior, a "historical Arabian Desert adventure film." Because none of the actors hired knew anything about Islam, they then unsuspectingly re-enacted many classic scenes recounted in the Qu'ran and Hadiths, even using all the actual names of the real historical personages -- with one exception, Mohammed. Nakoula felt that all he needed to do was change the name of this one character and as a result no one working on the film would even know they were making a movie and Islam, so in the actual dialogue Mohammed was called ""Master George." Then afterwards in post-production Nakoula overdubbed every instance of "Master George" with "Mohammed," and the film was transformed from an "Arabian Desert adventure" to a re-enactment of Islamic scriptures which make (accurately) Mohammed look like a villain.
The full two-hour film, half about the modern oppression of Egyptian Copts and half about the origins of Islam, was apparently only ever shown publicly once. Instead, a shortened 14-minute "trailer" version leaving out most of material about Copts and instead focusing primarily on Mohammed's story was uploaded to the Internet with the new title "Innocence of Muslims" on July 1, 2012, by the producer Nakoula under the pseudonym "Sam Bacile," to avoid personal reprisals from islamic extremists.
Since that date, the 14-minute trailer version has been uploaded, deleted, re-uploaded and deleted countless times on a variety of video sites by users around the world, and been the subject of multiple lawsuits in various countries. A garbled version o the film's complicated history can be read at wikipedia, but that too has been edited, rewritten and re-edited countless times.
The film achieved international infamy and played a major role in American politics when the United States Department of State falsely claimed that a premeditated attack by terrorists against the American embassy in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012 was not a terrorist attack at all but instead a spontaneous protest against Innocence of Muslims that had simply gotten a bit out of control -- leading to the death and dismemberment of the American ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens. Confusing the matter, publicity over this attack and its false rationale then spurred numerous real protests against the film worldwide in subsequent days, leading to at least 50 death and hundreds of injuries.
To cover up its misstatements, the United States government then persecuted Nakoula and jailed him for trivial "parole violations" (such as using a pseudonym while making the film) from a past arrest, as well as intentionally announcing his real name to the world, so that he would be targeted by Muslim extremists seeking revenge. Since Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State during this entire time and was therefore the person responsible for the misleading statements about the film and the treatment of Nakoula, the entire series of incidents surrounding Innocence of Muslims became a major scandal dogging her political career.
At the time of this writing, two different versions of the 14-minute trailer for Innocence of Muslims remain onlone at Youtube: a high-resolution version here and a standard-resolution version here. If these are later taken down, they are almost certain to be subsequently re-uploaded by other users; you can ususally find the current survivors of this cat-and-mouse upload/delete game simply by searching for the phrase "Innocence of Muslims" at YouTube. And if there are none there, the trailer is also usually available at other onlien video sites, such as Vimeo, LiveLeak, DailyMotion, etc.
I'm uploading screenshots from "The Innocence of Muslims," and have written the following caption for them, explaining the whole story from the very beginning, as if to someone who has no prior knowledge of the scandal. Here is the caption -- any suggestions for corrections or edits?:
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In 2011, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a Coptic Christian originally from Egypt but living in the United States, decided to make a movie about the persecution of Copts in Egypt and about how the ideology at the root of Islam allows for and even commands oppression of non-Muslims. The film was to include actors portraying Mohammed, his family and followers performing scenes from the Qu'ran and Hadiths -- most of which (from a non-Muslim perspective) show Islam in a bad light. Nakoula rightfully suspected that it would be difficult to find actors for such a controversial film, so he instead announced in the casting call that it was going to be a film entitled Desert Warrior, a "historical Arabian Desert adventure film." Because none of the actors hired knew anything about Islam, they then unsuspectingly re-enacted many classic scenes recounted in the Qu'ran and Hadiths, even using all the actual names of the real historical personages -- with one exception, Mohammed. Nakoula felt that all he needed to do was change the name of this one character and as a result no one working on the film would even know they were making a movie and Islam, so in the actual dialogue Mohammed was called ""Master George." Then afterwards in post-production Nakoula overdubbed every instance of "Master George" with "Mohammed," and the film was transformed from an "Arabian Desert adventure" to a re-enactment of Islamic scriptures which make (accurately) Mohammed look like a villain.
The full two-hour film, half about the modern oppression of Egyptian Copts and half about the origins of Islam, was apparently only ever shown publicly once. Instead, a shortened 14-minute "trailer" version leaving out most of material about Copts and instead focusing primarily on Mohammed's story was uploaded to the Internet with the new title "Innocence of Muslims" on July 1, 2012, by the producer Nakoula under the pseudonym "Sam Bacile," to avoid personal reprisals from islamic extremists.
Since that date, the 14-minute trailer version has been uploaded, deleted, re-uploaded and deleted countless times on a variety of video sites by users around the world, and been the subject of multiple lawsuits in various countries. A garbled version o the film's complicated history can be read at wikipedia, but that too has been edited, rewritten and re-edited countless times.
The film achieved international infamy and played a major role in American politics when the United States Department of State falsely claimed that a premeditated attack by terrorists against the American embassy in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012 was not a terrorist attack at all but instead a spontaneous protest against Innocence of Muslims that had simply gotten a bit out of control -- leading to the death and dismemberment of the American ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens. Confusing the matter, publicity over this attack and its false rationale then spurred numerous real protests against the film worldwide in subsequent days, leading to at least 50 death and hundreds of injuries.
To cover up its misstatements, the United States government then persecuted Nakoula and jailed him for trivial "parole violations" (such as using a pseudonym while making the film) from a past arrest, as well as intentionally announcing his real name to the world, so that he would be targeted by Muslim extremists seeking revenge. Since Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State during this entire time and was therefore the person responsible for the misleading statements about the film and the treatment of Nakoula, the entire series of incidents surrounding Innocence of Muslims became a major scandal dogging her political career.
At the time of this writing, two different versions of the 14-minute trailer for Innocence of Muslims remain onlone at Youtube: a high-resolution version here and a standard-resolution version here. If these are later taken down, they are almost certain to be subsequently re-uploaded by other users; you can ususally find the current survivors of this cat-and-mouse upload/delete game simply by searching for the phrase "Innocence of Muslims" at YouTube. And if there are none there, the trailer is also usually available at other onlien video sites, such as Vimeo, LiveLeak, DailyMotion, etc.
Posted by: zombie at October 17, 2016 04:44 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Chairman Mao at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (928Aa)
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well, the "funny thing" is if you look at what she has done previously and match that with her messianic need to make things right, gaming things out makes you think things may not go so well for her supporters.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (cPsPa)
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>>> disagree. She changed her mind on gay marriage, immigration and I'm sure others others if I cared to look.
Bullshit she did.
"It's important to have both a public position and a private position." -- Hillary Clinton in address to Wall Street donors
Obama claimed to be against gay marriage too -- did you believe he too "changed his mind"?
Bullshit she did.
"It's important to have both a public position and a private position." -- Hillary Clinton in address to Wall Street donors
Obama claimed to be against gay marriage too -- did you believe he too "changed his mind"?
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (dciA+)
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"It was clear to me that Secretary Clinton's temperament, (I hate the military, police and everyone around me)
leadership experience (don't use personal e-mail.....like me) and commitment to America's foundational values (pay to play) make her the far better choice for president."
Fuck the GOP.
leadership experience (don't use personal e-mail.....like me) and commitment to America's foundational values (pay to play) make her the far better choice for president."
Fuck the GOP.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (326rv)
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She's the modern day version of Jezebel.
Posted by: akelm88 at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (km/D2)
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Ace, joing the dems will not bring you peace or protection. You are fooling yourself.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (+aCe4)
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This reminds me of something I read or saw about Jonestown some years ago. They were talking to some of the survivors and sure it was scary and dark and wow was that some crazy shit, but later on you learned all of them latched on to some other crazy cuckoo for cocoa puffs movement.
Some people are just wired this way. There's no changing them. In the old days they were put to the sword.
Some people are just wired this way. There's no changing them. In the old days they were put to the sword.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (4ErVI)
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She's not soulless.
That's right, how can I be soulless?
I carry hot sauce in my purse!
You know, just like black people! Like Beyonce!
Except my hot sauce is a drone!
And Imma drone yo azz, Julian Assange!
That's right, how can I be soulless?
I carry hot sauce in my purse!
You know, just like black people! Like Beyonce!
Except my hot sauce is a drone!
And Imma drone yo azz, Julian Assange!
Posted by: Hillary at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (hA1V+)
80
Oddly enough, there is a good discussion of Hillary's religio-political attitudes in "Liberal Fascism". Odd in that Jonah Goldberg is so completely #NeverTrump.
Posted by: George LeS at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (+TcCF)
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So in other words, Hillary Clinton never progressed emotionally beyond adolescence. Angry at the world and knowing she can make things right.
Typical leftist. And dangerous.
So in other words, Hillary Clinton never progressed emotionally beyond adolescence. Angry at the world and knowing she can make things right.
Typical leftist. And dangerous.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (9P3OG)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (mgbwf)
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"It's important to have both a public position and a private position." -- Hillary Clinton in address to Wall Street donors
Obama claimed to be against gay marriage too -- did you believe he too "changed his mind"?
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (dciA+)
those are not even things that matter to her. she is going to level the field, culturally and rebuild. she does not care what is because she is getting rid of everything.
Obama claimed to be against gay marriage too -- did you believe he too "changed his mind"?
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 04:45 PM (dciA+)
those are not even things that matter to her. she is going to level the field, culturally and rebuild. she does not care what is because she is getting rid of everything.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (cPsPa)
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37 Reminds me of a Firesign Theater quote. "You can believe me, because I never lie and I'm always right." That's our gal Hillary. Oh, and "She's no fun. She fell right over."
Posted by: JuJuBee at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (kma8f)
That's right. And all you had to do was put the balls on the other side.
Posted by: JuJuBee at October 17, 2016 04:41 PM (kma8f)
That's right. And all you had to do was put the balls on the other side.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (raBhU)
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Hillary's campaign denies this. They tell me, and I'm quoting:
"Hillary isn't messianic, she's a pragmatic woman with a clear set of principles to guide her. She merely wants those same principles to guide everyone. Paint them on the side of your house and barn if you have to, but follow them."
So, no issue.
"Hillary isn't messianic, she's a pragmatic woman with a clear set of principles to guide her. She merely wants those same principles to guide everyone. Paint them on the side of your house and barn if you have to, but follow them."
So, no issue.
Posted by: Chris Cillizza at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (/m8T6)
Posted by: Harry Rosen at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (2WoCi)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (4ng05)
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She's a liar and an opportunist. Pretty simple. She goes for what she wants and will lie at every opportunity.
Posted by: DanMan at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (RusNE)
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The Georgia Guidestones are her bible.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (ko0V2)
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Also, while I think Hillary in 2008 would have been bad, she wouldn't have been Hillary in 2016 bad. Obama set a standard of unaccountability, and she is going to maximize that.
Back in 2008, I thought had she been elected, it was bad, but at least she understood that Americans did not like losing, so she would wipe out Islamic Fundamendalist terrorists.
Now she is deep into Sharia. She has learned we are okay with getting beaten. And she will gladly beat us if it pays.
Back in 2008, I thought had she been elected, it was bad, but at least she understood that Americans did not like losing, so she would wipe out Islamic Fundamendalist terrorists.
Now she is deep into Sharia. She has learned we are okay with getting beaten. And she will gladly beat us if it pays.
Posted by: blaster at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (tewYv)
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Her campaign manager wanted to start a revolution within the Catholic church. She wants to *force* the Catholic church to change its doctrine to support baby killing, SSM, and likly euthanasia, transgenderism, and other social deviance. As if people didn't have a right to eliefs outside of the Progressive State.
That is not the behavior of a "soulless bureaucrat".
That is not the behavior of a "soulless bureaucrat".
Posted by: Lizzy at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (NOIQH)
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They must believe something. They must. They have to. Their minds abhor the vacuum of non-belief.
Credo ergo sum -- I believe, therefore I am.
Yup.
Again, this is where I trot out being raised in the Evangelical world. Ninety-five percent of the people I grew up with are the finest people you will ever know and, while they may be super annoying about trying to save you, they truly do believe hate the sin but not the sinner.
Then there's the other five percent. Of that five percent, a good 95% of them were saved out of the depths of sin and they've gone Full Saul and the vehemence with which they sinned is now the vehemence with which you must be saved and, one way or another, they WILL save you. It's not really about God with those people. It's about needing some channel into which to push a Messianic desire to perfect others as they believe they have been perfected.
Believing that humans can perfect humanity is actually heresy.
Credo ergo sum -- I believe, therefore I am.
Yup.
Again, this is where I trot out being raised in the Evangelical world. Ninety-five percent of the people I grew up with are the finest people you will ever know and, while they may be super annoying about trying to save you, they truly do believe hate the sin but not the sinner.
Then there's the other five percent. Of that five percent, a good 95% of them were saved out of the depths of sin and they've gone Full Saul and the vehemence with which they sinned is now the vehemence with which you must be saved and, one way or another, they WILL save you. It's not really about God with those people. It's about needing some channel into which to push a Messianic desire to perfect others as they believe they have been perfected.
Believing that humans can perfect humanity is actually heresy.
Posted by: alexthechick - Herr Doctress Darth Fagette at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (mf5HN)
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So in other words, Hillary Clinton never progressed emotionally beyond adolescence. Angry at the world and knowing she can make things right.
Typical leftist. And dangerous.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (9P3OG)
she seems never to have learned how to give a good blow either.
Typical leftist. And dangerous.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (9P3OG)
she seems never to have learned how to give a good blow either.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (cPsPa)
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63 >>>She wants to save our souls.
I thought I was irredeemable
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (voOPb)
Being the Mission Doll from "Guys and Dolls" is a role, not an instruction manual.
I thought I was irredeemable
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 17, 2016 04:43 PM (voOPb)
Being the Mission Doll from "Guys and Dolls" is a role, not an instruction manual.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (9P3OG)
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So in other words, Hillary Clinton never progressed emotionally beyond adolescence. Angry at the world and knowing she can make things right.
Typical leftist. And dangerous.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (9P3OG)
Just like Barry. His entire time in office has been his revenge on the country. I'll show them. I'll get them.
Typical leftist. And dangerous.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:46 PM (9P3OG)
Just like Barry. His entire time in office has been his revenge on the country. I'll show them. I'll get them.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (493sH)
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She's evil... I can't stand the thought of Her for 4/8 years...... I guess she could get" pneumonia "again and die in office.... Then we get kaine who is just a puppet.... Depressing...
Posted by: deplorable donna at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (O2RFr)
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See, she's both a true believer zealot fanatic lunatic, but she's also soulless and greedy. She'll do anything that doesn't directly hurt or oppose her worldview, for money. And do anything that promotes it, no matter what.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (39g3+)
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She's just going to complete the job the JEF set out to do.
And the mindless, drooling masses who loved him and love her, will think it's just fine, as long as the productive pay for all their free shit.
And the mindless, drooling masses who loved him and love her, will think it's just fine, as long as the productive pay for all their free shit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (928Aa)
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Hillary Is Not a "Soulless, Pragmatic Corporatist Who Will Preserve the Status Quo," as Pro-Hillary "Conservatives" Claim.
She Sees Herself as a Messianic Joan of Arc to Deliver the Left's Revelation to the Earth.
Both can be true.
She Sees Herself as a Messianic Joan of Arc to Deliver the Left's Revelation to the Earth.
Both can be true.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (GX63o)
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something tells me the DOJ, EEOC, Ed Department, etc.
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Oh man, if only there was a way to deal with those organizations.
I'm sure Clinton would be the worse head of those organizations than Trump. And that is a valid argument.
But it is unfortunate that a primary argument is this guy will be better at running them than that guy (or girl) as opposed to how do we eliminate them.
Which I know most on this thread would be in favor of.
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Oh man, if only there was a way to deal with those organizations.
I'm sure Clinton would be the worse head of those organizations than Trump. And that is a valid argument.
But it is unfortunate that a primary argument is this guy will be better at running them than that guy (or girl) as opposed to how do we eliminate them.
Which I know most on this thread would be in favor of.
Posted by: SH at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (gmeXX)
101
Remember Benghazi is what the Clintons do to people they no longer have any use for.
Posted by: akelm88 at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (km/D2)
102
And more FOHs:
67 Republican politicians, donors and officials who are supporting Hillary Clinton
http://tinyurl.com/zkfzvyc
And more FOHs:
67 Republican politicians, donors and officials who are supporting Hillary Clinton
http://tinyurl.com/zkfzvyc
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (kdS6q)
103
If only the Marines had accepted her. Think of how history would be changed...
Posted by: tu3031 at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (qJhUV)
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This is very much the story of people like Stalin and i don't mean that as hyperbole. When he went to a Russian orthodox seminary, a year later he can out as an atheist.
It went downhill from there.
It went downhill from there.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (V03pJ)
105
I'm betting this "Tusk" character really enjoying looking at my dong.
Posted by: Barack Obama at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (FEAjO)
106
So, from a god-king, messianic, Obama to a goddess-empress, messianic Hillary.
What could possibly go wrong.
What could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (NtlIK)
107
Bullshit she did.
Posted by: ace
I think there are some quotes of her being pretty anti-gay a couple of decades ago. Probably some self hate fueling that. Then she found out they had political power. Now she's good with it.
Posted by: ace
I think there are some quotes of her being pretty anti-gay a couple of decades ago. Probably some self hate fueling that. Then she found out they had political power. Now she's good with it.
Posted by: Dang at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (8b+oT)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (NbJXF)
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Ace, about your afterthought: The "anti-theists" with the most zealotry, in my experience, are those who used to be proselytizing members of a religious faith. At some point they felt betrayed, made the full 180, but stayed just as much an evangelist - just for a new dogma. I agree, I think this is a specific type of person - or rather, a 'mode of being.'
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (kumBu)
110
Obama claimed to be against gay marriage too -- did you believe he too "changed his mind"?
Posted by: ace
I think the "private" Hillary is far less liberal than the private Obama.
I'm not saying we should feel comfortable with her by any means, but Hillary being close to 70 has a more FDR/JFK type liberalism than Obama's New Left trappings.
Plus, she's just so completely corrupt that it's off the charts, we really have never seen anything like it.
But if she accomplishes nothing, just nominating a few judges will do plenty of damage for a generation.
Posted by: ace
I think the "private" Hillary is far less liberal than the private Obama.
I'm not saying we should feel comfortable with her by any means, but Hillary being close to 70 has a more FDR/JFK type liberalism than Obama's New Left trappings.
Plus, she's just so completely corrupt that it's off the charts, we really have never seen anything like it.
But if she accomplishes nothing, just nominating a few judges will do plenty of damage for a generation.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (6w7Vd)
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There are early reports that Assange dumped everything and that the Brits raided the embassy and arrested him.
Wait for confirmation, but if true it's a Holy Shit Headline
Wait for confirmation, but if true it's a Holy Shit Headline
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (r1fLd)
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She wants to save our souls.
Well, some you can't save and must be removed. Seriously, that's always been the Left's viewpoint.
Well, some you can't save and must be removed. Seriously, that's always been the Left's viewpoint.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (39g3+)
113
I'm not really ecstatic about Obama just being the warm-up act.
Posted by: Michael at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (KClXw)
114
Hillary is evil. She has no code of ethics. She has no empathy. She probably rates higher than Obama on the narcissism scale. She is pathological in more than one area.
It's how she is hard wired. There is no plan.
It's how she is hard wired. There is no plan.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (QGkuq)
115
My ideas came first
Posted by: Maximilian Robespierre at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (sWbjH)
116
Trump has no desire to run your life.Hillary and the Left want to run your life.Only their way is acceptable.Simple as that.
Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (fA75F)
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for those saying "both can be true," overall, yes, but not the 'pragmatic, preserve the status quo" part.
She's corporate and soulless, but Hitler used corporations to advance his vision of Greater Germany. Mussolini also cowed corporations into pushing his idea of the unified fascist hive-mind.
She's corporate and soulless, but Hitler used corporations to advance his vision of Greater Germany. Mussolini also cowed corporations into pushing his idea of the unified fascist hive-mind.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (dciA+)
118
This is the article RCP needs to link to, hell maybe Drudge
Posted by: Jean at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (l0R9B)
119
Rose Law FIrm, Whitewater Investment, Cattle Futures, Hilary Care, Travel Gate, US Foreign Policy. Cqn anyone point to a success for Hillary?
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (vV/gB)
Posted by: deplorable donna at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (O2RFr)
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She Sees Herself as a Messianic Joan of Arc to Deliver the Left's Revelation to the Earth.
Can we cut right to the chase and just start a fire?
Can we cut right to the chase and just start a fire?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (jxbfJ)
122
In the 2007 voicemails between Hums and Hillary, who is the Tampon that wishes to be inside of the other?
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (ko0V2)
123
NO ONE expects the Clinton Inquisition!
Posted by: Miley's Deplorables, Standard Redneck at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (L2UGl)
124
So, she is going to implement the sincerely exercised tyranny C.S. Lewis warned us about.
Posted by: no good deed at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (/O5Ax)
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>>> Ace, about your afterthought: The "anti-theists" with the most zealotry, in my experience, are those who used to be proselytizing members of a religious faith. At some point they felt betrayed, made the full 180, but stayed just as much an evangelist - just for a new dogma. I agree, I think this is a specific type of person - or rather, a 'mode of being.'
probably, yes
probably, yes
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (dciA+)
126
Being a rampaging zealot out to save you or else can also be very profitable.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Acme Products at the Outrage Outlet! Coyote Tested - Roadrunner Approved! at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (hLRSq)
127
Read it again: It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
Nothing. New.
Posted by: MFM at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (tewYv)
I would opine that our issue today is that the omnipotent moral busybodies are being supported by the robber barons (and often are themselves).
Nothing. New.
Posted by: MFM at October 17, 2016 04:35 PM (tewYv)
I would opine that our issue today is that the omnipotent moral busybodies are being supported by the robber barons (and often are themselves).
Posted by: Country Singer at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (uiwCw)
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111 There are early reports that Assange dumped everything and that the Brits raided the embassy and arrested him.
Wait for confirmation, but if true it's a Holy Shit Headline
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (r1fLd)
No arrest but internet access cut off. Which would mean his contingency plan for releasing everything at once would come into play.
The Leftists must know this, but perhaps they think that their media arms will keep it dark. We shall see.
Wait for confirmation, but if true it's a Holy Shit Headline
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (r1fLd)
No arrest but internet access cut off. Which would mean his contingency plan for releasing everything at once would come into play.
The Leftists must know this, but perhaps they think that their media arms will keep it dark. We shall see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (9P3OG)
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All of that, and the Clintons are for at least $200,000,000.00?
If she thinks she's Joan of Arc ( a saint I revere, btw), she's got a screw loose. She isn't "messianic", she's more like Hugo Chavez. He had a message, too.
If she thinks she's Joan of Arc ( a saint I revere, btw), she's got a screw loose. She isn't "messianic", she's more like Hugo Chavez. He had a message, too.
Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2016 04:50 PM (JBggj)
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To: Huma
From: Hillary
Subject: Re: North Africa
Huma,
Contact Allah and tell him North Africa is his; I want the Levant.
And contact Putin and tell him to back the fuck off before I overcharge his ass back to a nuclear Siberia.
H.
To: Huma
From: Hillary
Subject: Re: North Africa
Huma,
Contact Allah and tell him North Africa is his; I want the Levant.
And contact Putin and tell him to back the fuck off before I overcharge his ass back to a nuclear Siberia.
H.
Posted by: Fritz at October 17, 2016 04:51 PM (cyoBN)
131
So we're basically arguing where she is on the Law-Chaos axis, right? We all agree she's evil. We're just not sure if she's LE or NE.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 04:51 PM (kumBu)
132
I'm going to take things away from you.
For the common good.
Your attitudes. Your beliefs.
They must go. They are not part of America.
For the common good.
Your attitudes. Your beliefs.
They must go. They are not part of America.
Posted by: Hillary at October 17, 2016 04:51 PM (hA1V+)
133
Look at her at the State Department. No accomplishments. Same in the Senate. If she were a true believe zealot she would have done things other than sit back while Americans were killed in Benghazi. She was too busy wrangling deals to put cash in her pockets. It's all about cash and power.
Posted by: Dang at October 17, 2016 04:51 PM (8b+oT)
134
Policies that all led to the pleasing of Baal.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 04:51 PM (ko0V2)
135
Obama claimed to be against gay marriage too -- did you believe he too "changed his mind"?
I believe he smoked another pole.
I believe he smoked another pole.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2016 04:51 PM (lFi5f)
Posted by: Han Solo at October 17, 2016 04:51 PM (9chpj)
137
If Republicans had a 2008 do over, it would be to have ignored our primary and made sure Hillary was the nominee.
It would have been like if HW Bush was our President in 1980 instead of Ronald Reagan. Much different GOP.
It would have been like if HW Bush was our President in 1980 instead of Ronald Reagan. Much different GOP.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 04:51 PM (6w7Vd)
138
Being the Mission Doll from "Guys and Dolls" is a role, not an instruction manual.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (9P3OG)
Sit down*
Sit down*
Sit down*
You're rockin' the boat.
* Hillaryspeak for Die in a Labor Camp.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (9P3OG)
Sit down*
Sit down*
Sit down*
You're rockin' the boat.
* Hillaryspeak for Die in a Labor Camp.
Posted by: Mission Hillary! at October 17, 2016 04:51 PM (0cMkb)
139
"It's important to have both a public position and a private position." -- Hillary Clinton in address to Wall Street donors
I can't remember what her stance was when the Own Wall Street twerps were busy but I am going to surmise that she was all "approval" of that shit show in her "public position" at the time.
"It's important to have both a public position and a private position." -- Hillary Clinton in address to Wall Street donors
I can't remember what her stance was when the Own Wall Street twerps were busy but I am going to surmise that she was all "approval" of that shit show in her "public position" at the time.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 04:51 PM (CFc5L)
140
Trump wants everyone to bang hot chicks and own stuff.
Hillary wants everyone to get whatever they have through government.
Hillary wants everyone to get whatever they have through government.
Posted by: Michael at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (KClXw)
141
95 Just like Barry. His entire time in office has been his revenge on the country. I'll show them. I'll get them.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (493sH)
Charlie X and the Squire of Gothos rolled into one, stoned, underachieving douchebag. Who was installed by others to be prexy.
Ugh.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (493sH)
Charlie X and the Squire of Gothos rolled into one, stoned, underachieving douchebag. Who was installed by others to be prexy.
Ugh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (9P3OG)
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arly reports that Assange dumped everything and that the Brits raided the embassy and arrested him.
Wait for confirmation, but if true it's a Holy Shit Headline
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (r1fLd)
no recent reports. everything is old.
my understanding was that the files were already distributed. his doomsday machine was to distribute the key to decrypt them.
Wait for confirmation, but if true it's a Holy Shit Headline
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (r1fLd)
no recent reports. everything is old.
my understanding was that the files were already distributed. his doomsday machine was to distribute the key to decrypt them.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (cPsPa)
143
There are early reports that Assange dumped everything and that the Brits raided the embassy and arrested him.
I'd be kind of surprised if the Brits would do TFG that kind of a personal favor. More likely his internet's just been cut off.
I'd be kind of surprised if the Brits would do TFG that kind of a personal favor. More likely his internet's just been cut off.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (KUTP5)
Posted by: MacGruber at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (FEAjO)
145
I'm not really ecstatic about Obama just being the warm-up act.
Posted by: Michael
Don't worry. There will be a Republican controlled Senate and House to block her.
I'm not really ecstatic about Obama just being the warm-up act.
Posted by: Michael
Don't worry. There will be a Republican controlled Senate and House to block her.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (kdS6q)
146
We can at least hope she ends up like Joan of Arc. Anyone for s'mores?
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (kumBu)
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Those who have observed that she constantly shows signs of "only being in it for herself" and showing mostly just the lust for power don't typically understand that that makes her *more* terrifying as a busybody, not less. Not remotely.
She is literally engaging in MAKE EVERYBODY GOOD tyrannical fantasies to quiet the voices. The voices that tell her she really might not be successful, after all. We're past a decoupling, I think, of her sense that she's a good person, but she likes to think of herself as powerful, accomplished, maybe good by proxy because she makes other people do things if she can't be "good" herself. "DAMN IT, I'M GETTING THIS MONEY BECAUSE I DESERVE IT. THESE MISERABLE SHITS DON'T GET HOW MUCH BETTER THEY'LL BE"
She does things for money to do everything she wants, and power to do everything she wants, because that is the means to the Omnipotence She Deserves. If Obama believes only in himself, Hillary is giving the Satanic Cult of Hillary (herself) everything she can to aid in her own apotheosis.
Obama: "God, I'm awesome"
Hillary: "I AM AN AWESOME GOD"
She is literally engaging in MAKE EVERYBODY GOOD tyrannical fantasies to quiet the voices. The voices that tell her she really might not be successful, after all. We're past a decoupling, I think, of her sense that she's a good person, but she likes to think of herself as powerful, accomplished, maybe good by proxy because she makes other people do things if she can't be "good" herself. "DAMN IT, I'M GETTING THIS MONEY BECAUSE I DESERVE IT. THESE MISERABLE SHITS DON'T GET HOW MUCH BETTER THEY'LL BE"
She does things for money to do everything she wants, and power to do everything she wants, because that is the means to the Omnipotence She Deserves. If Obama believes only in himself, Hillary is giving the Satanic Cult of Hillary (herself) everything she can to aid in her own apotheosis.
Obama: "God, I'm awesome"
Hillary: "I AM AN AWESOME GOD"
Posted by: Sporkatus at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (eXSOZ)
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>>>I think there are some quotes of her being pretty anti-gay a couple of decades ago. Probably some self hate fueling that. Then she found out they had political power. Now she's good with it.
yes there are. She was also for the Iraq invasion before she was against it.
As she herself told you, if you only had the ears to hear her: "It's important to maintain both a public position and a private position."
yes there are. She was also for the Iraq invasion before she was against it.
As she herself told you, if you only had the ears to hear her: "It's important to maintain both a public position and a private position."
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (dciA+)
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Bringing this up from the prior thread:
According to this story the shutting down of the Internet to Assange caused his "dead man switch" to activate on another computer - since he was unable to stop it as he periodically had to.
The result is that the entire 88 GB of WikiLeaks data is now decrypted and available over bit torrent.
http://tinyurl.com/h3dlbag
Posted by: An Observation at October 17, 2016 04:37 PM (BCVkB)
According to this story the shutting down of the Internet to Assange caused his "dead man switch" to activate on another computer - since he was unable to stop it as he periodically had to.
The result is that the entire 88 GB of WikiLeaks data is now decrypted and available over bit torrent.
http://tinyurl.com/h3dlbag
Posted by: An Observation at October 17, 2016 04:37 PM (BCVkB)
Posted by: Meremortal at October 17, 2016 04:53 PM (3myMJ)
150
wonder if the wikileaks decryption key is 140 characters or less?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 04:53 PM (cPsPa)
151
No arrest but internet access cut off. Which would mean his contingency plan for releasing everything at once would come into play.
The Leftists must know this, but perhaps they think that their media arms will keep it dark. We shall see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
The thing, you're talking about so little memory that these thousands of emails take up, you hit a button on a phone and that can be uploaded in seconds.
The information will get out.
The Leftists must know this, but perhaps they think that their media arms will keep it dark. We shall see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
The thing, you're talking about so little memory that these thousands of emails take up, you hit a button on a phone and that can be uploaded in seconds.
The information will get out.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 04:53 PM (6w7Vd)
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"Oddly enough, there is a good discussion of Hillary's religio-political attitudes in "Liberal Fascism". Odd in that Jonah Goldberg is so completely #NeverTrump."
Yeah, but at least Jonah's not a real jerk about it and understands the reasons to vote for Trump. He also hits Hillary a lot. I don't put him in the same category as people like Rick Wilson and Ben Howe who are awful.
Yeah, but at least Jonah's not a real jerk about it and understands the reasons to vote for Trump. He also hits Hillary a lot. I don't put him in the same category as people like Rick Wilson and Ben Howe who are awful.
Posted by: Benji Carver at October 17, 2016 04:53 PM (OD2ni)
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Don't worry. There will be a Republican controlled Senate and House to block her.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (kdS6q)
*flamethrows thread*
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (kdS6q)
*flamethrows thread*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 04:53 PM (928Aa)
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>>I disagree. ... She's a control freak for sure
and she's power hungry, but for herself - not a grand message.
Yeah, "Clinton Cash" demonstrates that whatever values she professes, she will abandon them for the right price, whether it's the Keystone Pipeline, Haiti disaster relief, even siding with Russia over America (uranium deal).
I have to wonder if shes chosen Russia as the boogeyman with the hack to distance her from Russia in people's minds, a way to inoculate them from believing she and Podesta have done so much business with Russia while she was at State.
and she's power hungry, but for herself - not a grand message.
Yeah, "Clinton Cash" demonstrates that whatever values she professes, she will abandon them for the right price, whether it's the Keystone Pipeline, Haiti disaster relief, even siding with Russia over America (uranium deal).
I have to wonder if shes chosen Russia as the boogeyman with the hack to distance her from Russia in people's minds, a way to inoculate them from believing she and Podesta have done so much business with Russia while she was at State.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 17, 2016 04:54 PM (NOIQH)
155
Feminism is a religion.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 04:54 PM (ko0V2)
156
Hillary before Barak is the same as Hillary now, a career criminal is a career criminal for life.
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 04:54 PM (sWbjH)
157
read this entire post with Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk" in my head.
++++
I had Bouncing Soul's True Believers
++++
I had Bouncing Soul's True Believers
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at October 17, 2016 04:54 PM (KYj+p)
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146 We can at least hope she ends up like Joan of Arc. Anyone for s'mores?
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (kumBu)
" . . . she was a sister who really cooked!"
What TV theme song is that line from?
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (kumBu)
" . . . she was a sister who really cooked!"
What TV theme song is that line from?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:54 PM (9P3OG)
159
Shrillary is a friggin psychopath. She has no sympathy for anyone or anything. She cares about nothing but her own desires. She doesn't give a shit about "good". Moral judgments are totally foreign to her mind. She is without any sort of morality. She only wants what she wants and if you get in her way she's going to make you wish you were never born.
Shrillary is not looking to perfect anyone or do any sort of good. She's only looking to make herself feel good - and that only happens when she's stealing stuff, destroying other people's stuff and making people fear her. Those are her only motivations.
Shrillary is not looking to perfect anyone or do any sort of good. She's only looking to make herself feel good - and that only happens when she's stealing stuff, destroying other people's stuff and making people fear her. Those are her only motivations.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 17, 2016 04:54 PM (zc3Db)
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71----Posted by: zombie at October 17, 2016 04:44 PM (jBuUi)
------------------------
Ah.
Memories...light the corner of my mind,
misty water-colored memories
of the way the Bitch was... and is
------------------------
Ah.
Memories...light the corner of my mind,
misty water-colored memories
of the way the Bitch was... and is
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2016 04:54 PM (Nox3c)
161
We can at least hope she ends up like Joan of Arc. Anyone for s'mores?
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (kumBu)
never happen. too many regulations about not being allowed to burn toxins. she would go into a barrel and get dipped in glass.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (kumBu)
never happen. too many regulations about not being allowed to burn toxins. she would go into a barrel and get dipped in glass.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 04:54 PM (cPsPa)
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Messianic? Well, You Could Say She's Halfway There I Suppose- a limerick
Now Hillary wants to confess
She's a savior (if one had to guess)
But her flaws are titanic
She's not messianic,
She's actually more of a mess!
Messianic? Well, You Could Say She's Halfway There I Suppose- a limerick
Now Hillary wants to confess
She's a savior (if one had to guess)
But her flaws are titanic
She's not messianic,
She's actually more of a mess!
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (wPiJc)
163
Maritime,
In my church we have a cadre of navel gazers that just can see a difference between the felon and Trump. Why he is vulgar and such. Somehow they can never seem to get to the part of the 40 years of lies, corruption, treason, and death that is the felon and her spouse - the rapist.
I have bit my tongue more than once when we're praying in a group and someone spouts off about Trump in their prayer. They are so self righteous and smug thinking they are so above the fray. Never realizing that they will be in the cross hairs of the felon day 3 of her reign.
In my church we have a cadre of navel gazers that just can see a difference between the felon and Trump. Why he is vulgar and such. Somehow they can never seem to get to the part of the 40 years of lies, corruption, treason, and death that is the felon and her spouse - the rapist.
I have bit my tongue more than once when we're praying in a group and someone spouts off about Trump in their prayer. They are so self righteous and smug thinking they are so above the fray. Never realizing that they will be in the cross hairs of the felon day 3 of her reign.
Posted by: Octiparan at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (cn2r5)
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Willowed in the previous thread, this observation:
"This is the first time in human history that the media has been a
willing and deliberate tool of tyranny rather than forced into it by
state coercion or takeover."
Except... that the media don't think of themselves as tools of tyranny. Not in the least. Not for a microsecond. They instead view themselves as instruments of human liberation. Enablers of progress. Faithful foot soldiers against backwardness. Illuminators of the darkness of the lives of we "bitter clingers", which they desire and intend to improve for our own good.
The left's self-perception is always and invariably that they are the messengers of a brightly dawning new day for the world.
Until the gulags and laogais.
"This is the first time in human history that the media has been a
willing and deliberate tool of tyranny rather than forced into it by
state coercion or takeover."
Except... that the media don't think of themselves as tools of tyranny. Not in the least. Not for a microsecond. They instead view themselves as instruments of human liberation. Enablers of progress. Faithful foot soldiers against backwardness. Illuminators of the darkness of the lives of we "bitter clingers", which they desire and intend to improve for our own good.
The left's self-perception is always and invariably that they are the messengers of a brightly dawning new day for the world.
Until the gulags and laogais.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (noWW6)
165
I wonder what meds, if any, MUMR is on?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (928Aa)
166
12 The baptism lasts until you quit moving.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam
Yes, the baptism with a sharp hoe to the back of the head. Its why we need rural immigrants from central America, otherwise the hoes won't be sharp.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam
Yes, the baptism with a sharp hoe to the back of the head. Its why we need rural immigrants from central America, otherwise the hoes won't be sharp.
Posted by: Jean at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (l0R9B)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (kumBu)
168
I think in order for her to messianic, she would have to have a regard for people in general, a belief that they should be saved.
I think that, like Obama, there is only one person in the world that she cares about, AT ALL, and that person lives in her mirror.
I think that, like Obama, there is only one person in the world that she cares about, AT ALL, and that person lives in her mirror.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (AroJD)
169
106 So, from a god-king, messianic, Obama to a goddess-empress, messianic Hillary.
What could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (NtlIK
Financial?
War?
Or both?
What could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 17, 2016 04:48 PM (NtlIK
Financial?
War?
Or both?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (voOPb)
170
I do think HIllary is a flat out classic psychopath, who has no normal human emotions or sense of right and wrong, and who has no connection or empathy for their fellow human being. Often, people like this have a very very high opinion of themselves and their greatness which invalidates any possible opposition. Obama is less so; more narcissistic, as in "take selfies of myself for every event" but less flat out scary insane.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (39g3+)
171
There is also a fair amount of Tape of Obama saying he was against gay marriage -- "that's a covenant with God" -- and also claimed If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 04:56 PM (dciA+)
172
169 Posted by: torquewrench at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (noWW6)
And there it is. We are not equal opponents on the playing field of ideas. We are evil and to be eradicated.
QED.
And there it is. We are not equal opponents on the playing field of ideas. We are evil and to be eradicated.
QED.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 04:56 PM (9P3OG)
173
Hillary started hanging around billionaires and needed to make amends. She's painfully aware that she and Bill have to pay full freight on declared income, not carried interest rates. The Foundation lets Bill, Hillary and Chelsea enjoy a lavish lifestyle on a tax-advantaged basis, which is some solace.
The Foundation was also a way to pre-game Hillary's campaign and support an Administration-in-Waiting.
The Foundation was also a way to pre-game Hillary's campaign and support an Administration-in-Waiting.
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 04:56 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: Grammar Nazi at October 17, 2016 04:56 PM (mgbwf)
175
my understanding was that the files were already distributed. his doomsday machine was to distribute the key to decrypt them.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (cPsPa)
WZ posted copies of tweeter feed last night with the doomsday torrent codes, they had been tipped of the raid I guess.
When if ever will the MSM read and report the files?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (cPsPa)
WZ posted copies of tweeter feed last night with the doomsday torrent codes, they had been tipped of the raid I guess.
When if ever will the MSM read and report the files?
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 17, 2016 04:57 PM (NbJXF)
176
Now Hillary wants to confess
She's a savior (if one had to guess)
But her flaws are titanic
She's not messianic,
She's actually more of a mess!
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (wPiJc)
You truly are the gift that keeps on giving!
She's a savior (if one had to guess)
But her flaws are titanic
She's not messianic,
She's actually more of a mess!
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (wPiJc)
You truly are the gift that keeps on giving!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 04:57 PM (928Aa)
177
Assange released hashes on files re the UK Foreign & Commonwealth office, re Ecuador and re John Kerry.
This seems to be a warning to Kerry, the UK and Ecuador.
If they do kill or arrest him, then presumably those three files will be among the things released, including presumably info that Kerry, the UK and Ecuador would not want to make public.
This seems to be a warning to Kerry, the UK and Ecuador.
If they do kill or arrest him, then presumably those three files will be among the things released, including presumably info that Kerry, the UK and Ecuador would not want to make public.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 17, 2016 04:57 PM (hA1V+)
Posted by: @votermom's phone at October 17, 2016 04:57 PM (Kieqn)
179
111
There are early reports that Assange dumped everything and that the Brits raided the embassy and arrested him.
Wait for confirmation, but if true it's a Holy Shit Headline
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (r1fLd)
Democrats perpetrating the violation of human rights.
People may joke that others spend too much time on the internet, but
this intricate series of tubes has become an important part of everyday
life--so much so that it's become a human rights violation to take it
away.
That's according to the United Nations Human Rights Council, which
passed a non-binding resolution in June that condemns countries that
intentionally take away or disrupt its citizens' internet access.
http://gizmodo.com/internet-access-is-now-a-basic-human-right-1783081865
There are early reports that Assange dumped everything and that the Brits raided the embassy and arrested him.
Wait for confirmation, but if true it's a Holy Shit Headline
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 04:49 PM (r1fLd)
Democrats perpetrating the violation of human rights.
People may joke that others spend too much time on the internet, but
this intricate series of tubes has become an important part of everyday
life--so much so that it's become a human rights violation to take it
away.
That's according to the United Nations Human Rights Council, which
passed a non-binding resolution in June that condemns countries that
intentionally take away or disrupt its citizens' internet access.
http://gizmodo.com/internet-access-is-now-a-basic-human-right-1783081865
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable at October 17, 2016 04:57 PM (GX63o)
180
That sort of conversion -- from believing in one thing intensely one day, then believing even more intensely the exact opposite of what was just intensely believed the week before -- betrays the mind of the Natural Born Zealot, someone who feels philosophically uncomfortable and psychically out-of-sorts unless they have some Grand Cause to join in, some great crusade which will allow them to put the heretics to the sword.
That fits a certain Large Green Fatblogger as well.
That fits a certain Large Green Fatblogger as well.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 17, 2016 04:57 PM (WlGX+)
181
Lenin talked like he was for the working class but when it came down to it the working class continued to suffer, in many ways worse than they had under the Czars. It was all for the protected class which replaced the nobility.
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 04:57 PM (sWbjH)
182
I have bit my tongue more than once when we're praying in a group and someone spouts off about Trump in their prayer. They are so self righteous and smug thinking they are so above the fray. Never realizing that they will be in the cross hairs of the felon day 3 of her reign.
Posted by: Octiparan
Vote with you feet and go to a different Church. certain denominations have a very liberal bent to them and I won't tolerate it.
I have bit my tongue more than once when we're praying in a group and someone spouts off about Trump in their prayer. They are so self righteous and smug thinking they are so above the fray. Never realizing that they will be in the cross hairs of the felon day 3 of her reign.
Posted by: Octiparan
Vote with you feet and go to a different Church. certain denominations have a very liberal bent to them and I won't tolerate it.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 04:57 PM (6w7Vd)
183
I also think Hillary has the attitude of rulers like King Henry VIII who thought "since I did it, it was good" defining morality by what pleases and serves them and with the assumption that they cannot do wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 04:58 PM (39g3+)
184
88 gigs? That's precious HD space for porn!
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (kumBu)
yeah, now you are going to have to go through your entire collection to figure out which ones to delete to make space/
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 04:55 PM (kumBu)
yeah, now you are going to have to go through your entire collection to figure out which ones to delete to make space/
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 04:58 PM (cPsPa)
185
I think Tusk has it half right.
She is in fact filled with the zeal of the convert, but it is an Elmer Gantry sort of political philosophy, in which she can effortlessly justify her own violation of every public tenet of socialism, while preaching their value to society.
Deep down she knows she's a crook, and she doesn't care. Because in those deep recesses of her foul psyche she believes, truly believes, that she is better than you and me. So anything she gets, she deserves.
She is in fact filled with the zeal of the convert, but it is an Elmer Gantry sort of political philosophy, in which she can effortlessly justify her own violation of every public tenet of socialism, while preaching their value to society.
Deep down she knows she's a crook, and she doesn't care. Because in those deep recesses of her foul psyche she believes, truly believes, that she is better than you and me. So anything she gets, she deserves.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 17, 2016 04:58 PM (Zu3d9)
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"I'm too old..."
Ace, lots of people have political conversions after 29. You'll see, when you get to 32, like me.
Ace, lots of people have political conversions after 29. You'll see, when you get to 32, like me.
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable at October 17, 2016 04:58 PM (Eynls)
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Hillary doesn't want to save anyone. Hillary wants to control everyone. She couldn't care less about the common man or woman. Look at the volume of anecdotes of her treatment of people. As any narcissistic person, she has to be right all the time and doesn't take kindly to being proved wrong. That goes with the pathological lying. She is mentally a very dangerous person.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 17, 2016 04:58 PM (QGkuq)
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I truly believe if she wins and tries some of the more edge of the law coercion and liberal administrative fiats you are going to see things that make BLM look like amateurs.
People forget that those in the center and center right are perfectly capable of pushing back. But they usually wait until their back is to the wall.
People forget that those in the center and center right are perfectly capable of pushing back. But they usually wait until their back is to the wall.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2016 04:58 PM (V03pJ)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 17, 2016 04:58 PM (NbJXF)
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They must believe something. They must. They have to. Their minds abhor the vacuum of non-belief. Their brains recoil in disgust from doubt.
Its the hole in everybody's heart that only God can fill. But they want a 'god' that is not all judgey and will allow the promotion of Self. So, post modern secularism is there God. Politics is there religion.
Its the hole in everybody's heart that only God can fill. But they want a 'god' that is not all judgey and will allow the promotion of Self. So, post modern secularism is there God. Politics is there religion.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 17, 2016 04:59 PM (NtlIK)
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Since i doubt Hilary has any strong belief in God (She may believe in one but perhaps she's a Deist and certainly no concept of being one who comes to serve following the humility of Jesus,. I find this whole concept to be part of the narrative of the left. She might have ac concept of the Messianic but she's the Messiah. Very dangerous, narcissistic thinking.
Lord have mercy
Christ have mercy
Lord have mercy
Lord have mercy
Christ have mercy
Lord have mercy
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at October 17, 2016 04:59 PM (EnGQE)
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Don't worry. There will be a Republican controlled Senate and House to block her.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (kdS6q)
Paper towel. Monitor. Some elbow grease required.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 04:52 PM (kdS6q)
Paper towel. Monitor. Some elbow grease required.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 17, 2016 04:59 PM (voOPb)
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95 Just like Barry. His entire time in office has been his revenge on the country. I'll show them. I'll get them.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (493sH)
............
Django Soetoro
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 04:47 PM (493sH)
............
Django Soetoro
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2016 04:59 PM (HgMAr)
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"She is 45 now [how time flies! -- Tusk] and she knows that the
earnest idealisms of a child of the 1960's may strike some people as
naive or trite or grandiose. But she holds to them without any apparent
sense of irony or inadequacy."
And without any examination of the colossal failures and dangerous pathologies which have since resulted from implementing the naive nostrums of Sixties campus radicals as national policy.
It's not merely Hillary, of course. All of the graying new-left Ponytail-iban suffer from the same deficit of self-awareness.
earnest idealisms of a child of the 1960's may strike some people as
naive or trite or grandiose. But she holds to them without any apparent
sense of irony or inadequacy."
And without any examination of the colossal failures and dangerous pathologies which have since resulted from implementing the naive nostrums of Sixties campus radicals as national policy.
It's not merely Hillary, of course. All of the graying new-left Ponytail-iban suffer from the same deficit of self-awareness.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 17, 2016 04:59 PM (noWW6)
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Well, I think it's a little more complicated than that.
Yes, she sees herself as doing good and because she's doing good she deserves to get paid.
You, on the other hand, you are a bad person, so you deserve whatever you get, which should ideally to be nothing.
This is her dynamic.
I believe that's why Our Betters have no fear of her. They know she can be easily bribed.
Anytime she's getting paid, she's doing good.
I suspect she's already made deals with Russia and China and others.
Russia's already gotten 20% of our uranium by dealing with her.
If she wins, the US will become a mind boggling kleptocracy.
With her, all the while looking down her nose at you deplorables.
Enjoy! NeverTrumptards.
Well, I think it's a little more complicated than that.
Yes, she sees herself as doing good and because she's doing good she deserves to get paid.
You, on the other hand, you are a bad person, so you deserve whatever you get, which should ideally to be nothing.
This is her dynamic.
I believe that's why Our Betters have no fear of her. They know she can be easily bribed.
Anytime she's getting paid, she's doing good.
I suspect she's already made deals with Russia and China and others.
Russia's already gotten 20% of our uranium by dealing with her.
If she wins, the US will become a mind boggling kleptocracy.
With her, all the while looking down her nose at you deplorables.
Enjoy! NeverTrumptards.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 17, 2016 04:59 PM (0cMkb)
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We can at least hope she ends up like Joan of Arc.
Posted by: broseidon king
Pope Skippy makes her a Saint?
Very likely.
We can at least hope she ends up like Joan of Arc.
Posted by: broseidon king
Pope Skippy makes her a Saint?
Very likely.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 05:00 PM (kdS6q)
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Vote with you feet and go to a different Church. certain denominations have a very liberal bent to them and I won't tolerate it.
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Agreed. I did that, and I couldn't be happier.
Will NOT go to a church that talks politics. And my current church does not, outside of the occasional "we have a missionary coming to speak" sort of thing.
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Agreed. I did that, and I couldn't be happier.
Will NOT go to a church that talks politics. And my current church does not, outside of the occasional "we have a missionary coming to speak" sort of thing.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at October 17, 2016 05:00 PM (tvyXw)
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Maritime,
We have left for the most part, I go on Awanas night taking my grand kids as it's the only one church close to us that offers the program. That's about all of my effort now.
We have left for the most part, I go on Awanas night taking my grand kids as it's the only one church close to us that offers the program. That's about all of my effort now.
Posted by: Octiparan at October 17, 2016 05:00 PM (cn2r5)
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And here's Dana Perino, Little Mary Sunshine. Jeebus, she really dislikes Trump.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 05:00 PM (928Aa)
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And I thought you were only 29 Ace!
Posted by: Little Dutch boy at October 17, 2016 05:00 PM (ur77P)
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And ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil ...
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 17, 2016 05:01 PM (QQ+il)
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Except she has no fixed stance on anything except absolute power.
That's less a function of idealistic leftist, if at all, than the result of a sociopath.
That's less a function of idealistic leftist, if at all, than the result of a sociopath.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2016 05:01 PM (V3IFq)
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Hilary c'lapsed in Chappaqua,
Force-fed on third rate fois-gras,
When I get coronated,
I'll be so elated,
As I behead all those petty bourgeois.
(something like that, but good)
Hilary c'lapsed in Chappaqua,
Force-fed on third rate fois-gras,
When I get coronated,
I'll be so elated,
As I behead all those petty bourgeois.
(something like that, but good)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:01 PM (9P3OG)
204
"Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 05:00 PM (kdS6q) "
I was thinking more, you know, ending up extra crispy.
I was thinking more, you know, ending up extra crispy.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (kumBu)
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There once was a lass named Hillary.
Who smelled quite like a distillery.
She sought the control of a god,
Which was really just odd,
Knowing she couldn't even halt Bill's blue dress spillery.
Who smelled quite like a distillery.
She sought the control of a god,
Which was really just odd,
Knowing she couldn't even halt Bill's blue dress spillery.
Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (9chpj)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (NbJXF)
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The big lie is that you can be non-religious or have no faith. That's ridiculous, as proven by thousands of years of human history and behavior. Its not a question of if, its a question of whom you believe in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Weasel at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (Sfs6o)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 17, 2016 04:58 PM (Zu3d9)
Preach it brother.
Preach it brother.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (Q5Ymk)
210
Can't wait to see her Inaugural pants suit....
Posted by: deplorable donna at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (O2RFr)
211
Next guest post will be written by 'Rumours,' right?
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (kumBu)
212
...a hateful lib but he saw through Clinton so righties dug him? Ace went to Israel with him, I think. Anyway, he, or someone, described Bill Clinton as being entirely made up of appetite.
Christopher Hitchens? Author of No One Left to Lie To?
Christopher Hitchens? Author of No One Left to Lie To?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (2lndx)
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Green Chucky Smallballs didn't have a great cause to believe in. That was his most loyal commenters who needed that great cause, and a strong leader. Mr Smallballs was just happy to use them.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (05FSz)
214
Also... not really sure how long the cocktail of drugs they're giving her will keep her alive.
If the worst comes to pass, she'll be locked up and only allowed out for highly orchestrated events. NOTHING out of the country, since you can't control flashes from every journalist elsewhere like you can here.
So... the DNC/ Media/ Corporate Cabal will be the ones running things day to day.
If the worst comes to pass, she'll be locked up and only allowed out for highly orchestrated events. NOTHING out of the country, since you can't control flashes from every journalist elsewhere like you can here.
So... the DNC/ Media/ Corporate Cabal will be the ones running things day to day.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at October 17, 2016 05:02 PM (tvyXw)
215
I wonder if anyone on The Five will bother to mention all the Wikileaks crap on the Beast?
Or the firebombing of the Republican headquarters in NC?
Or the firebombing of the Republican headquarters in NC?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (928Aa)
216
"We can at least hope she ends up like Joan of Arc. Anyone for s'mores?
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean"
That is horrible,vile, really low thing to write and should not be posted.
I mean, why would ruin a s'more with witch smoke?
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean"
That is horrible,vile, really low thing to write and should not be posted.
I mean, why would ruin a s'more with witch smoke?
Posted by: Ripley at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (1BQGO)
217
From WikiLeaks Updates site:
"Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans...HE HAS A PLAN B..."
6 hours old.
Message from 5 hours ago says he is alive and well.
"Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans...HE HAS A PLAN B..."
6 hours old.
Message from 5 hours ago says he is alive and well.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (3myMJ)
218
>>>Hillary started hanging around billionaires and needed to make amends.
There is also another phenomenon at work. Hillary's been told since Wellesley and Yale that she is among the intellectual elite.
When people like Bill and Hillary who consider themselves among the intellectual elite go into government work, and then in their fundraising they rub shoulders with assorted billionaires and other superwealthy people, they quickly come to believe that these people are no better, and maybe are inferior, to Bill and Hillary and that Bill and Hillary deserve to be superwealthy too, by virtue of their intellectual elite status and sacrifices by going into 'public service.'
It provides an internal rationalization for any and all corruption to line their own pockets or excuse their own bad behavior.
There is also another phenomenon at work. Hillary's been told since Wellesley and Yale that she is among the intellectual elite.
When people like Bill and Hillary who consider themselves among the intellectual elite go into government work, and then in their fundraising they rub shoulders with assorted billionaires and other superwealthy people, they quickly come to believe that these people are no better, and maybe are inferior, to Bill and Hillary and that Bill and Hillary deserve to be superwealthy too, by virtue of their intellectual elite status and sacrifices by going into 'public service.'
It provides an internal rationalization for any and all corruption to line their own pockets or excuse their own bad behavior.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (hA1V+)
219
I'm far from #NeverTrump but I couldn't disagree with this more. She has left-wing sensibilities sure, but they're more of the gauzy "government is such a powerful tool for helping people it seems a shame not to use it" Baby-Boomer progressivism.
She'll mouth the platitudes on gay marriage and trans rights and BLM and the like ONLY BECAUSE THEY'RE A VEHICLE TO POWER. Does anyone doubt if the vast majority of the nation was still firmly opposed to SSM that she wouldn't be as well?
Both Clintons are tabula rasas for different segments of the political spectrum without much of an animating ideology. Bill was great at letting center-right folks and independents project their wishes and hopes onto him and, to the extent it allowed him to wield power, he would pursue their goals. Welfare reform, balanced budgets, tough on crime, etc. All those came about post-1994 because he realized he could never win reelection as a left-wing ideologue. He dropped his liberalism like a hot potato which tells me he didn't much care about being an ideologue anyway.
Conversely she's a tabula rasa for the left. I do think much of the left can see through the facade though. They sense that she is not "One of Us." They'll still probably pull the lever for her en masse, but I think they're under no illusions that, should they become a political liability, she will drop them at once.
The larger question is whether it's better to be ruled by a careerist. venal individual who will parrot your beliefs back to you in an imperfect cadence or to be ruled by a True Believer who speaks your ideology fluently because it's his native tongue?
She'll mouth the platitudes on gay marriage and trans rights and BLM and the like ONLY BECAUSE THEY'RE A VEHICLE TO POWER. Does anyone doubt if the vast majority of the nation was still firmly opposed to SSM that she wouldn't be as well?
Both Clintons are tabula rasas for different segments of the political spectrum without much of an animating ideology. Bill was great at letting center-right folks and independents project their wishes and hopes onto him and, to the extent it allowed him to wield power, he would pursue their goals. Welfare reform, balanced budgets, tough on crime, etc. All those came about post-1994 because he realized he could never win reelection as a left-wing ideologue. He dropped his liberalism like a hot potato which tells me he didn't much care about being an ideologue anyway.
Conversely she's a tabula rasa for the left. I do think much of the left can see through the facade though. They sense that she is not "One of Us." They'll still probably pull the lever for her en masse, but I think they're under no illusions that, should they become a political liability, she will drop them at once.
The larger question is whether it's better to be ruled by a careerist. venal individual who will parrot your beliefs back to you in an imperfect cadence or to be ruled by a True Believer who speaks your ideology fluently because it's his native tongue?
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (Rtyzj)
Posted by: Jean at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (l0R9B)
221
Watching The Deathly Hallows part 2011, fighting lord Hillary. I mean Voldemort
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 05:04 PM (sWbjH)
222
wonder if the wikileaks decryption key is 140 characters or less?
Or fewer.
Posted by: Grammar Nazi at October 17, 2016 04:56 PM (mgbwf)
Bandersnatch
that is half of your contribution to the thread?
Or fewer.
Posted by: Grammar Nazi at October 17, 2016 04:56 PM (mgbwf)
Bandersnatch
that is half of your contribution to the thread?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:04 PM (cPsPa)
223
I mean, why would ruin a s'more with witch smoke?
Posted by: Ripley at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM
How do you know she's a witch?
Posted by: Ripley at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM
How do you know she's a witch?
Posted by: Sir Bedevere at October 17, 2016 05:04 PM (bzd8I)
224
>>>.a hateful lib but he saw through Clinton so righties dug him? Ace went to Israel with him, I think. Anyway, he, or someone, described Bill Clinton as being entirely made up of appetite.
lebanon not isreal. yeah I imagine you mean Chris Hitchens.
Hitchens continued maintaining he was a man of the left throughout his life, I believe.
There's always been a fight on the left between the Orwell group -- those who desire socialism, but not totalitarianism -- and the full Marxists, who want both.
lebanon not isreal. yeah I imagine you mean Chris Hitchens.
Hitchens continued maintaining he was a man of the left throughout his life, I believe.
There's always been a fight on the left between the Orwell group -- those who desire socialism, but not totalitarianism -- and the full Marxists, who want both.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 05:05 PM (dciA+)
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170 I wonder what meds, if any, MUMR is on?
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Whatever it is, I hope they up the dosage and frequency.
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Whatever it is, I hope they up the dosage and frequency.
Posted by: Chris Cillizza at October 17, 2016 05:05 PM (/m8T6)
226
Trump's worst was to say he grabbed pussy,
Albeit consensualussy,
The hildebeast's crimes,
As the greased poles she climbs,
Reveal _she_'s the worse kind of hussy!
Albeit consensualussy,
The hildebeast's crimes,
As the greased poles she climbs,
Reveal _she_'s the worse kind of hussy!
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable at October 17, 2016 05:05 PM (Eynls)
227
So I think some people are going "no no no she's just a greedy power hungry bitch". And well that's true she is. But she's a true believer and zealot too. They're not mutually exclusive. It's just a case of "I'm doing good and wonderful things so why shouldn't I get paid for it too?"
Posted by: Buzzion at October 17, 2016 05:05 PM (z/Ubi)
228
219 Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (Rtyzj)
Which one will shove the throttle through the firewall at maximum speed and which one will at best slow it down?
The latter is my choice.
Which one will shove the throttle through the firewall at maximum speed and which one will at best slow it down?
The latter is my choice.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:05 PM (9P3OG)
229
I wonder if anyone on The Five will bother to mention all the Wikileaks crap on the Beast?
Or the firebombing of the Republican headquarters in NC?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (928Aa)
What is that in comparison to someone Trump kissed once 25 years ago?
Or the firebombing of the Republican headquarters in NC?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (928Aa)
What is that in comparison to someone Trump kissed once 25 years ago?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 05:05 PM (493sH)
230
Actually, if you read her Wall Street speeches, you'll see there's no grand utopian vision of A City on the Hill. What she's about is herself, no Grand Vision for Humanity other than her own historic power.
She's a megalomaniac, not a religious maniac.
She's a megalomaniac, not a religious maniac.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:05 PM (g6yUI)
231
Will NOT go to a church that talks politics. And my current church does not
Yeah I'm very proud of my local church for its lack of political talk from the pulpit. The pastor will preach against sin in the world and warn us about it, but then will preach against sin in our (and his) hearts, and why we need Christ for that. Politics is not the proper topic for a church service.
Yeah I'm very proud of my local church for its lack of political talk from the pulpit. The pastor will preach against sin in the world and warn us about it, but then will preach against sin in our (and his) hearts, and why we need Christ for that. Politics is not the proper topic for a church service.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 05:06 PM (39g3+)
232
Hahahah, NeverTrumpers seeming increasingly psychotic.
It's strange to think Hillary will probably win. She seems so toxic. I'm voting Trump, and I think he has a chance to squeak one by, but it's gonna be a ninth inning miracle.
It's strange to think Hillary will probably win. She seems so toxic. I'm voting Trump, and I think he has a chance to squeak one by, but it's gonna be a ninth inning miracle.
Posted by: Max Power at October 17, 2016 05:06 PM (q177U)
233
Like any criminal the more they get away with the bolder the new crime.
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 05:06 PM (sWbjH)
234
Anyway she's not messianic.
She would have done something anything as NY senator if she was
She would have done something anything as NY senator if she was
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at October 17, 2016 05:06 PM (KYj+p)
235
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (hA1V+)
I was just trying to formulate the exact point you made. I think it applies to a lot of politicians and other people.
I was just trying to formulate the exact point you made. I think it applies to a lot of politicians and other people.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (Q5Ymk)
236
So when she tells Wall Street one thing and us another, she is lying to them. Probably both.
Posted by: Javems at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (yOqwj)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (9P3OG)
238
Ace, c'mon, you know the rules: you're supposed to submit this story to Podesta before pushing "publish" and not after.
Posted by: Glenn Thrush at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (/m8T6)
239
"Or the firebombing of the Republican headquarters in NC?"
Posted by: Knemon at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (hIRY0)
240
>>>She is in fact filled with the zeal of the convert, but it is an Elmer Gantry sort of political philosophy, in which she can effortlessly justify her own violation of every public tenet of socialism, while preaching their value to society.
in other words, she's a vanilla, bog-standard socialist?
All socialists justify their every selfish, money-and-prestige-grabbing move, too, as somehow in the interests of "Teh People."
The People would want me to have nice things, you know. It gives them courage, and something to aspire to in their own gray insect-like lives.
in other words, she's a vanilla, bog-standard socialist?
All socialists justify their every selfish, money-and-prestige-grabbing move, too, as somehow in the interests of "Teh People."
The People would want me to have nice things, you know. It gives them courage, and something to aspire to in their own gray insect-like lives.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (dciA+)
241
Nobody is going to "raid an embassy" especially not in another country. Not from any first world civilization, anyway. That is just not going to happen, particularly not for Assange.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (39g3+)
242
I'm not really ecstatic about Obama just being the warm-up act.
Posted by: Michael
Don't worry. There will be a Republican controlled Senate and House to block her.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
****
You are sooooo not funny.
Posted by: Michael
Don't worry. There will be a Republican controlled Senate and House to block her.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
****
You are sooooo not funny.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (+aCe4)
243
Tusk?
Did we get a new CoB?
Did we get a new CoB?
Posted by: Chi at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (X4HZW)
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Vote with you feet and go to a different Church. certain denominations have a very liberal bent to them and I won't tolerate it.
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Agreed. I did that, and I couldn't be happier.
Will NOT go to a church that talks politics. And my current church does not, outside of the occasional "we have a missionary coming to speak" sort of thing.
Posted by: shibumi
I remember going to a Lutheran Church with a friend and they took up causes like supporting gun control which really has nothing to do with religion.
I don't need the Church to validate my politics, but it is refreshing going to an Evangelical Church and the Pastor not being afraid to say Christians should vote for a platform that stands for Religious Liberty, against abortion, and is pro-family. Stuff that was pretty common sense just a few years ago.
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Agreed. I did that, and I couldn't be happier.
Will NOT go to a church that talks politics. And my current church does not, outside of the occasional "we have a missionary coming to speak" sort of thing.
Posted by: shibumi
I remember going to a Lutheran Church with a friend and they took up causes like supporting gun control which really has nothing to do with religion.
I don't need the Church to validate my politics, but it is refreshing going to an Evangelical Church and the Pastor not being afraid to say Christians should vote for a platform that stands for Religious Liberty, against abortion, and is pro-family. Stuff that was pretty common sense just a few years ago.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (6w7Vd)
245
My parents grew up about 20 minutes away from where the office was firebombed.
Beautiful country.
Beautiful country.
Posted by: Knemon at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (hIRY0)
246
"And here's Dana Perino, Little Mary Sunshine. Jeebus, she really dislikes Trump."
Perino is a Bush family operative.
Pining for the eventual Restoration of the dynasty, once these upstart newcomers have been dispatched.
Perino is a Bush family operative.
Pining for the eventual Restoration of the dynasty, once these upstart newcomers have been dispatched.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (noWW6)
247
236 So when she tells Wall Street one thing and us another, she is lying to them. Probably both.
Posted by: Javems at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (yOqwj)
Her relationship with them is like Hitler's with the industrialists. They support him, he allows them to do what he needs (armaments) while helping crush their competition.
Posted by: Javems at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (yOqwj)
Her relationship with them is like Hitler's with the industrialists. They support him, he allows them to do what he needs (armaments) while helping crush their competition.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (9P3OG)
248
"Which one will shove the throttle through the firewall at maximum speed and which one will at best slow it down?
The latter is my choice.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:05 PM (9P3OG)"
That's my sense as well. i would rather have a Cruz than a Trump. But we must away to battle with the army we have.
The latter is my choice.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:05 PM (9P3OG)"
That's my sense as well. i would rather have a Cruz than a Trump. But we must away to battle with the army we have.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (Rtyzj)
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ace, you work too hard at this.
People who are stupid enough to (effectively) support Hillary become president are too stupid to take seriously if they try these outlandish rationales for doing so. No need to disassemble their silly sophomoric excuses.
Stupid has many definitions, in this case, a "practical" sense of stupid.
The "status quo" is spiralling lawlessnes from all directions - executive, judicial - and crumbling of the civic culture. An electorate dumbed down to the "cares about someone like me" or "oooh Trump is just icky" level. NPR and below.
The analogy is precise. There 5 seconds on the clock, you're down by 6 points. You have the ball. Do you throw the Hail Mary, or do you just walk off the field, hoping to "win" somehow?
People who are stupid enough to (effectively) support Hillary become president are too stupid to take seriously if they try these outlandish rationales for doing so. No need to disassemble their silly sophomoric excuses.
Stupid has many definitions, in this case, a "practical" sense of stupid.
The "status quo" is spiralling lawlessnes from all directions - executive, judicial - and crumbling of the civic culture. An electorate dumbed down to the "cares about someone like me" or "oooh Trump is just icky" level. NPR and below.
The analogy is precise. There 5 seconds on the clock, you're down by 6 points. You have the ball. Do you throw the Hail Mary, or do you just walk off the field, hoping to "win" somehow?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (QDnY+)
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The larger question is whether it's better to be ruled by a careerist. venal individual who will parrot your beliefs back to you in an imperfect cadence or to be ruled by a True Believer who speaks your ideology fluently because it's his native tongue?
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (Rtyzj)
which are you voting for? neither describes Trump.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (Rtyzj)
which are you voting for? neither describes Trump.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:09 PM (cPsPa)
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>>> Anyway she's not messianic.
She would have done something anything as NY senator if she was
oh for God's sakes this has all be in service of BEING ELECTED PRESIDENT.
You think she wanted to be a Senator?
No, she wanted to be Senator only to give her an actual office so she could then claim relevant experience when running for President.
Her moves in the Senate -- where she proposed very little legislation (none, I believe) -- were intended to produce a bland, do-no-harm cipher of a record.
She would have done something anything as NY senator if she was
oh for God's sakes this has all be in service of BEING ELECTED PRESIDENT.
You think she wanted to be a Senator?
No, she wanted to be Senator only to give her an actual office so she could then claim relevant experience when running for President.
Her moves in the Senate -- where she proposed very little legislation (none, I believe) -- were intended to produce a bland, do-no-harm cipher of a record.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 05:09 PM (dciA+)
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That's my sense as well. i would rather have a Cruz than a Trump. But we must away to battle with the army we have.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (Rtyzj)
THIS. You read my mind.
That's my sense as well. i would rather have a Cruz than a Trump. But we must away to battle with the army we have.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:08 PM (Rtyzj)
THIS. You read my mind.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:09 PM (9P3OG)
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Can't wait to see her Inaugural pants suit....
*******
With a curious shape God has blessed her
Her fashion sense surely will test her
For Inaugural Day
What she'll wear, who can say?
But it's certain to be polyester!!
*******
With a curious shape God has blessed her
Her fashion sense surely will test her
For Inaugural Day
What she'll wear, who can say?
But it's certain to be polyester!!
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2016 05:09 PM (wPiJc)
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The thought of a President Hill,
Should tingle everyone's spine with a chill.
The Oval Office in the bag,
Will free up that hag,
To incessantly nag us all for her thrill.
Should tingle everyone's spine with a chill.
The Oval Office in the bag,
Will free up that hag,
To incessantly nag us all for her thrill.
Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at October 17, 2016 05:09 PM (9chpj)
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So anything she gets, she deserves.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 17, 2016 04:58 PM (Zu3d9)
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I only wish she would get what she deserves. Hint: it's not what she THINKS she deserves.
I honestly don't know what drives her. Power, greed, all sorts of things. But I do know that whatever she wants to do to this country, it's not for our good, but for hers. She is so determined to go down in the history books as the first female president of the U.S. she will say and do anything she thinks she needs to do to get those votes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 17, 2016 04:58 PM (Zu3d9)
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I only wish she would get what she deserves. Hint: it's not what she THINKS she deserves.
I honestly don't know what drives her. Power, greed, all sorts of things. But I do know that whatever she wants to do to this country, it's not for our good, but for hers. She is so determined to go down in the history books as the first female president of the U.S. she will say and do anything she thinks she needs to do to get those votes.
Posted by: bluebell at October 17, 2016 05:09 PM (uHcnA)
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I think she's dangerous too. The wild temper tantrums and uncontrolled outbursts betray her. Anyone who throws potentially deadly weapons at people due to un-tethered inner rage is seriously mentally sick.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 05:10 PM (CFc5L)
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Actually, if you read her Wall Street speeches, you'll see there's no grand utopian vision of A City on the Hill. What she's about is herself, no Grand Vision for Humanity other than her own historic power.
She's a megalomaniac, not a religious maniac.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
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Bingo.
She's a megalomaniac, not a religious maniac.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
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Bingo.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at October 17, 2016 05:10 PM (0x/TW)
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A true zealot would not have voted for the Iraq resolution.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 17, 2016 05:10 PM (QGkuq)
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Oh, this is far, far worse than either of the viewpoints I'm seeing.
The "she's a believer" camp is half right.
The "she's in it for herself" camp is half right.
But what we have is worse than a simple messianic Leftist or a corrupt politician writ large.
What we have in Hillary Rodham Clinton is a genuine megalomaniac.
God help us all.
The "she's a believer" camp is half right.
The "she's in it for herself" camp is half right.
But what we have is worse than a simple messianic Leftist or a corrupt politician writ large.
What we have in Hillary Rodham Clinton is a genuine megalomaniac.
God help us all.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, deplorably down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 17, 2016 05:10 PM (9krrF)
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Bandersnatch
that is half of your contribution to the thread?
I would also have picked my nose if there were anything up there.
Also, googling hashes is my schtick, it's not fair to use it against me.
that is half of your contribution to the thread?
I would also have picked my nose if there were anything up there.
Also, googling hashes is my schtick, it's not fair to use it against me.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2016 05:10 PM (mgbwf)
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>>>And here's Dana Perino, Little Mary Sunshine. Jeebus, she really dislikes Trump."
funny, I thought of the Mary Sunshine reference for Megyn Kelly a couple of weeks ago. (Mary Sunshine was the reporter willing to believe any done-wrong-by-a-man story issuing from a woman, in Chicago.)
Great minds think alike; so too do ours.
funny, I thought of the Mary Sunshine reference for Megyn Kelly a couple of weeks ago. (Mary Sunshine was the reporter willing to believe any done-wrong-by-a-man story issuing from a woman, in Chicago.)
Great minds think alike; so too do ours.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 05:11 PM (dciA+)
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Hillary is the anti-King Canute.
Few of you may remember King Canute, an actual medieval-era English king who once had an extremely well-known moral fable attached to his legend:
The story goes that King Canute was surrounded by yes-man and advisors who endlessly praised him and whispered in his hear that he was all-powerful. But the king was wise and humble, and wanted to prove to his sycophants that they were wrong. So he had them carry his throne down to the beach at low tide, and as the waves began coming in, he commanded to water to stay back. But of course his commands were futile -- no matter what he said, the water rushed ever forward, and eventually washed over his legs. He turned to his courtiers and told them that only God was omnipotent, and that he, King Canute himself, was only only mortal, and that therefore they should all shut up and instead reserve their praise for God.
This seems like such a bizarre fable from the modern perspective, because it's about humility, something that is entirely lacking in the modern world.
If it had been Hillary on that throne, she would have screamed bloody murder at the waves and then beheaded everyone who failed to hold the tide back for her.
Few of you may remember King Canute, an actual medieval-era English king who once had an extremely well-known moral fable attached to his legend:
The story goes that King Canute was surrounded by yes-man and advisors who endlessly praised him and whispered in his hear that he was all-powerful. But the king was wise and humble, and wanted to prove to his sycophants that they were wrong. So he had them carry his throne down to the beach at low tide, and as the waves began coming in, he commanded to water to stay back. But of course his commands were futile -- no matter what he said, the water rushed ever forward, and eventually washed over his legs. He turned to his courtiers and told them that only God was omnipotent, and that he, King Canute himself, was only only mortal, and that therefore they should all shut up and instead reserve their praise for God.
This seems like such a bizarre fable from the modern perspective, because it's about humility, something that is entirely lacking in the modern world.
If it had been Hillary on that throne, she would have screamed bloody murder at the waves and then beheaded everyone who failed to hold the tide back for her.
Posted by: zombie at October 17, 2016 05:11 PM (jBuUi)
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Once Hillary tried to play god
By resurrecting a week old dead cod
Said Bill with a sniff
If you want me to get stiff
Use a Lysol douche on your bod!
By resurrecting a week old dead cod
Said Bill with a sniff
If you want me to get stiff
Use a Lysol douche on your bod!
Posted by: naturalfake at October 17, 2016 05:11 PM (0cMkb)
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here's Dana Perino, Little Mary Sunshine. Jeebus, she really dislikes Trump."
Perino is a Bush family operative.
she is also entirely useless to listen to. she offers nothing of value other than maybe how to phrase something. no technical knowledge, no policy knowledge, nothing than grammar. guilfoyle should stuff some ball gag in her mouth and ride her like the mule she is.
Perino is a Bush family operative.
she is also entirely useless to listen to. she offers nothing of value other than maybe how to phrase something. no technical knowledge, no policy knowledge, nothing than grammar. guilfoyle should stuff some ball gag in her mouth and ride her like the mule she is.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:11 PM (cPsPa)
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Frankly, I want the left and Oma politically neutralized. Then we can postulate to our hearts' content as to why they are the way they are. What we do know has not done anything for the cause.
Frankly, I want the left and Oma politically neutralized. Then we can postulate to our hearts' content as to why they are the way they are. What we do know has not done anything for the cause.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:12 PM (9P3OG)
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>>>We have activated the appropriate contingency plans<<<
A ham sammich and regimen for treating bimbo-borne hepatitis.
A ham sammich and regimen for treating bimbo-borne hepatitis.
Posted by: Fritz at October 17, 2016 05:12 PM (cyoBN)
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"The larger question is whether it's better to be ruled by a careerist. venal individual who will parrot your beliefs back to you in an imperfect cadence or to be ruled by a True Believer who speaks your ideology fluently because it's his native tongue?
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (Rtyzj)
which are you voting for? neither describes Trump.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:09 PM (cPsPa)"
I was speaking more in general terms for any primary election that features those two choices, because they usually do. Trump is sui generis.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (Rtyzj)
which are you voting for? neither describes Trump.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:09 PM (cPsPa)"
I was speaking more in general terms for any primary election that features those two choices, because they usually do. Trump is sui generis.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:12 PM (Rtyzj)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 17, 2016 05:12 PM (IqV8l)
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Also, googling hashes is my schtick, it's not fair to use it against me.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2016 05:10 PM (mgbwf)
may be a great minds think alike thing, maybe.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2016 05:10 PM (mgbwf)
may be a great minds think alike thing, maybe.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:12 PM (cPsPa)
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>>>196
We can at least hope she ends up like Joan of Arc.
Posted by: broseidon kin<<<
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Leading the rabble while topless, waving her panties on a stick?
We can at least hope she ends up like Joan of Arc.
Posted by: broseidon kin<<<
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Leading the rabble while topless, waving her panties on a stick?
Posted by: Javems at October 17, 2016 05:12 PM (yOqwj)
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I wonder if anyone on The Five will bother to mention all the Wikileaks crap on the Beast? Or the firebombing of the Republican headquarters in NC?
Posted by: Jane D'oh
"Next on The Five, Kimberly Guilfoyle sits down for an hour-long one on one interview with Shep Smith...."
I wonder if anyone on The Five will bother to mention all the Wikileaks crap on the Beast? Or the firebombing of the Republican headquarters in NC?
Posted by: Jane D'oh
"Next on The Five, Kimberly Guilfoyle sits down for an hour-long one on one interview with Shep Smith...."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 05:13 PM (kdS6q)
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Hillary began her corrupt, criminal career as an apologist/shyster for the Black Panthers, then moved to the Impeachment Committee after flunking the DC bar exam, where she covered up Bill's connections to Heidi's call-girl ring and worked to deny Nixon his rights, and then it was off to the races in Arkansas,.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen at October 17, 2016 05:13 PM (gjyrg)
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I think she'll wear a gown for the inaugural. All of her medical apparatus could be easily hidden in a floor length dress.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 05:13 PM (CFc5L)
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I have a different take on Hillary...
She's a Psychopath playing with an Ant Hill....
She has all the classic symptoms of being a Psychopath.... the Temper... but also the lack of emotion... lack of shame... and the total disdain for those around her.
Even her staying with Bill is a symptom... ie putting aside emotion for gain...
Being a Psychopath is not a problem, except there is a subset of them, who want to 'play with' other people... who get satisfaction from manipulation.... who get jollies from forcing people to do things which are bad for them, just to prove that they can be manipulated...
Hillary, IMO, falls into the category.
She's a Psychopath playing with an Ant Hill....
She has all the classic symptoms of being a Psychopath.... the Temper... but also the lack of emotion... lack of shame... and the total disdain for those around her.
Even her staying with Bill is a symptom... ie putting aside emotion for gain...
Being a Psychopath is not a problem, except there is a subset of them, who want to 'play with' other people... who get satisfaction from manipulation.... who get jollies from forcing people to do things which are bad for them, just to prove that they can be manipulated...
Hillary, IMO, falls into the category.
Posted by: Don Q., singin the song of an angry AMERICAN Man at October 17, 2016 05:13 PM (qf6WZ)
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Clinton claimed there were hundreds of hills with her name on them as a senatrix. Said that in the first debate
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2016 05:13 PM (05FSz)
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264, guilfoyle should stuff some ball gag in her mouth and ride her like the mule she is.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:11 PM (cPsPa)
I would tune in to see that.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:11 PM (cPsPa)
I would tune in to see that.
Posted by: IC at October 17, 2016 05:13 PM (a0IVu)
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If Hillary wins, I see her being the most unpopular President in the history of polling. And I see her not getting a single law that really matters passed.
It's the judges that worry me. The way our country is set up, a handful of judges really rules America.
Regardless of who wins, we are in for a pretty nasty fall economically in the next 2 years or so.
It's the judges that worry me. The way our country is set up, a handful of judges really rules America.
Regardless of who wins, we are in for a pretty nasty fall economically in the next 2 years or so.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:14 PM (6w7Vd)
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We should also be asking, is Tim Kaine a messianic zealot?
Cause Hillz is a seriously ill woman. If she has had symptons of Parkinson's or PSP or a similar degenerative neurological disease since 2005, her cankles may not be treading the earth for long.
They are trying to run out the clock in a number of ways, and one of them is her health problems.
Cause Hillz is a seriously ill woman. If she has had symptons of Parkinson's or PSP or a similar degenerative neurological disease since 2005, her cankles may not be treading the earth for long.
They are trying to run out the clock in a number of ways, and one of them is her health problems.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 17, 2016 05:14 PM (hA1V+)
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>>Conversely she's a tabula rasa for the left. I do
think much of the left can see through the facade though. They sense
that she is not "One of Us." They'll still probably pull the lever for
her en masse, but I think they're under no illusions that, should they
become a political liability, she will drop them at once.
The larger question is whether it's better to be ruled by a
careerist. venal individual who will parrot your beliefs back to you in
an imperfect cadence or to be ruled by a True Believer who speaks your
ideology fluently because it's his native tongue?
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (Rtyzj)<<
Couldn't agree less. She's always been a fire-breathing liberal. She just hasn't had the popular sentiment to allow her to show her true colors. She's throwing blades of grass in the wind and noticing the change. She can show her true liberal side - especially after the election.
Yeah, she likes to make money. That just makes her like the rest of the left-wing leaders out there in China, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. She will sell her liberal positions to the suckers while she makes a ton of money and holds political power.
When she leaves, she will leave a rotted husk of the former republic that was the United States of America.
think much of the left can see through the facade though. They sense
that she is not "One of Us." They'll still probably pull the lever for
her en masse, but I think they're under no illusions that, should they
become a political liability, she will drop them at once.
The larger question is whether it's better to be ruled by a
careerist. venal individual who will parrot your beliefs back to you in
an imperfect cadence or to be ruled by a True Believer who speaks your
ideology fluently because it's his native tongue?
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:03 PM (Rtyzj)<<
Couldn't agree less. She's always been a fire-breathing liberal. She just hasn't had the popular sentiment to allow her to show her true colors. She's throwing blades of grass in the wind and noticing the change. She can show her true liberal side - especially after the election.
Yeah, she likes to make money. That just makes her like the rest of the left-wing leaders out there in China, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. She will sell her liberal positions to the suckers while she makes a ton of money and holds political power.
When she leaves, she will leave a rotted husk of the former republic that was the United States of America.
Posted by: MacGruber at October 17, 2016 05:14 PM (FEAjO)
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214 Also... not really sure how long the cocktail of drugs they're giving her will keep her alive.
I keep thinking of the Star Trek (TOS) episode 'Patterns of Force' . Where a planet is ruled by National Socialism and a dictator (who turns out to be the guy that went missing) who is propped up on drugs while a group actually runs things. Just a figurehead. Obama is just a figurehead. He doesn't run anything. Valerie Jarrett does. You don't need to drug him up though. He's easily distracted. Just turn on ESPN, have a celebrity show up, etc. Obama is not that bright.
I keep thinking of the Star Trek (TOS) episode 'Patterns of Force' . Where a planet is ruled by National Socialism and a dictator (who turns out to be the guy that went missing) who is propped up on drugs while a group actually runs things. Just a figurehead. Obama is just a figurehead. He doesn't run anything. Valerie Jarrett does. You don't need to drug him up though. He's easily distracted. Just turn on ESPN, have a celebrity show up, etc. Obama is not that bright.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 17, 2016 05:14 PM (NtlIK)
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How come no one in the media has or is mentioning that the Beast has completely dropped out of sight for about a week now? Three weeks for an election and she's nowhere to been seen. Maybe like Spinal Tap's Derek Smalls during Rock n Roll Creation, the Beast is stuck in her cryogenic chamber and they can't get her out.
How come no one in the media has or is mentioning that the Beast has completely dropped out of sight for about a week now? Three weeks for an election and she's nowhere to been seen. Maybe like Spinal Tap's Derek Smalls during Rock n Roll Creation, the Beast is stuck in her cryogenic chamber and they can't get her out.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 05:14 PM (493sH)
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"Next on The Five, Kimberly Guilfoyle sits down for an hour-long one on one interview with Shep Smith...."
I hear he smokes pole.
I can hardly wait for the hours of coverage over this vital issue.
"Next on The Five, Kimberly Guilfoyle sits down for an hour-long one on one interview with Shep Smith...."
I hear he smokes pole.
I can hardly wait for the hours of coverage over this vital issue.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:15 PM (g6yUI)
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in other words, she's a vanilla, bog-standard socialist?
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (dciA+)
No. I think she is worse.
I'll take Bernie Sanders over Hillary. he will take his cut, a la Plunkitt of Tammany Hall, just like any good socialist would.
But Clinton will subvert the process; twist it into something unrecognizable to achieve her ends, which include power and money, not just political revolution.
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (dciA+)
No. I think she is worse.
I'll take Bernie Sanders over Hillary. he will take his cut, a la Plunkitt of Tammany Hall, just like any good socialist would.
But Clinton will subvert the process; twist it into something unrecognizable to achieve her ends, which include power and money, not just political revolution.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 17, 2016 05:15 PM (Zu3d9)
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>>"He's giving Hillary far too much credit: she wants to sell America to
the highest bidder. Russian, Chinese, Iranian, Saudi. it doesn't matter.
She wants to enrich herself beyond all imagination."
I agree. She was initially animated by vague, leftist utopian dreams forty years ago, but that''s mostly degenerated to the sheer lust for power and control now.
That "deplorables" line was likely written for her by some younger lefty zealot speechwriter, who IS a "True Believer" in the cause and DOES see her as a faux messianic figure..
the highest bidder. Russian, Chinese, Iranian, Saudi. it doesn't matter.
She wants to enrich herself beyond all imagination."
I agree. She was initially animated by vague, leftist utopian dreams forty years ago, but that''s mostly degenerated to the sheer lust for power and control now.
That "deplorables" line was likely written for her by some younger lefty zealot speechwriter, who IS a "True Believer" in the cause and DOES see her as a faux messianic figure..
Posted by: An Observer at October 17, 2016 05:15 PM (ErZHv)
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I think she'll wear a gown for the inaugural. All of her medical apparatus could be easily hidden in a floor length dress.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 05:13 PM (CFc5L)
I think so too - something glittery and long to convey power and glamour.
I think she'll wear a gown for the inaugural. All of her medical apparatus could be easily hidden in a floor length dress.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 05:13 PM (CFc5L)
I think so too - something glittery and long to convey power and glamour.
Posted by: IC at October 17, 2016 05:15 PM (a0IVu)
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277 If Hillary wins, I see her being the most unpopular President in the history of polling. And I see her not getting a single law that really matters passed.
Right, because the Republicans have really demonstrated a backbone in standing against things when the media is shouting that doing so is racist/sexist.
Right, because the Republicans have really demonstrated a backbone in standing against things when the media is shouting that doing so is racist/sexist.
Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2016 05:15 PM (z/Ubi)
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I wonder if anyone on The Five will bother to mention all the Wikileaks crap on the Beast?
They're too busy whining about dangerous
skepticism in the election process.
I wonder if anyone on The Five will bother to mention all the Wikileaks crap on the Beast?
They're too busy whining about dangerous
skepticism in the election process.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 17, 2016 05:16 PM (IqV8l)
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how does twitter work? can I get blocked by someone? may make it my goal to get blocked by perino this week. where is my password?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:16 PM (cPsPa)
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277 If Hillary wins, I see her being the most unpopular President in the history of polling. And I see her not getting a single law that really matters passed.
It's the judges that worry me. The way our country is set up, a handful of judges really rules America.
Regardless of who wins, we are in for a pretty nasty fall economically in the next 2 years or so.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:14 PM (6w7Vd)
You forgot who runs congress. "For the children" and "we don't want to be seen as anti-woman" will be the excuse to grab everything that's left.
It's the judges that worry me. The way our country is set up, a handful of judges really rules America.
Regardless of who wins, we are in for a pretty nasty fall economically in the next 2 years or so.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:14 PM (6w7Vd)
You forgot who runs congress. "For the children" and "we don't want to be seen as anti-woman" will be the excuse to grab everything that's left.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:16 PM (9P3OG)
Posted by: deplorable donna at October 17, 2016 05:16 PM (O2RFr)
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We should also be asking, is Tim Kaine a messianic zealot?
Right. I don't see her lasting more than half a term, if that. She's in horrific bad health.
Kaine, while I disagree with him on very specific issues, is not as awful as Hillary is. He's not nearly as bad as either Hillary or Obama as far as I can tell. But when it comes down to it, the best we can possibly hope for from him as president when it comes to SCOTUS picks is a left-moderate like Kennedy.
Right. I don't see her lasting more than half a term, if that. She's in horrific bad health.
Kaine, while I disagree with him on very specific issues, is not as awful as Hillary is. He's not nearly as bad as either Hillary or Obama as far as I can tell. But when it comes down to it, the best we can possibly hope for from him as president when it comes to SCOTUS picks is a left-moderate like Kennedy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 05:17 PM (39g3+)
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I'd be in hiding if I was Billy C. If the polling continues to look bad for Hillary, what would look better than the poor widow of an American hero carrying on his work?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 17, 2016 05:17 PM (6Ll1u)
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I disagree. She changed her mind on gay marriage, immigration and I'm sure others others if I cared to look. She's a control freak for sure and she's power hungry, but for herself - not a grand message. Look at her foundation. Stealing cash like a common hobo. A true believer would be putting that cash to work promoting her message. It isn't. It's going in her pocket. She's a common confidence huckster.
No message, just greed.
Posted by: Dang at October 17, 2016 04:39 PM (8b+oT)
Agreed. She is no Joan of Arc. She's not even a Hitler. Her only accomplishment was marrying Bill Clinton, it's the source of her power and her sense of being owed by the world.
No message, just greed.
Posted by: Dang at October 17, 2016 04:39 PM (8b+oT)
Agreed. She is no Joan of Arc. She's not even a Hitler. Her only accomplishment was marrying Bill Clinton, it's the source of her power and her sense of being owed by the world.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at October 17, 2016 05:17 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2016 05:17 PM (lFi5f)
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At least in a decent banana republic they have bananas. What will we have -- crabapples?
Posted by: zombie at October 17, 2016 05:17 PM (jBuUi)
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she is also entirely useless to listen to. she offers nothing of value other than maybe how to phrase something. no technical knowledge, no policy knowledge, nothing than grammar. guilfoyle should stuff some ball gag in her mouth and ride her like the mule she is.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:11 PM (cPsPa)
Yep. Perino's pretty much of an idiot. You'd get more interesting and relevant discussions with a 10th grader.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:11 PM (cPsPa)
Yep. Perino's pretty much of an idiot. You'd get more interesting and relevant discussions with a 10th grader.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 17, 2016 05:17 PM (zc3Db)
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236 So when she tells Wall Street one thing and us another, she is lying to them. Probably both.
Posted by: Javems at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (yOqwj)
Her relationship with them is like Hitler's with the industrialists. They support him, he allows them to do what he needs (armaments) while helping crush their competition.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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But, those industrialists were thoroughly under Hitler's bootheel. The level of bureaucracy and things they were required to do made it clear who was in charge.
And God forbid if they charged more for something than some bureaucrat felt was appropriate.
History will be repeating itself.
Posted by: Javems at October 17, 2016 05:07 PM (yOqwj)
Her relationship with them is like Hitler's with the industrialists. They support him, he allows them to do what he needs (armaments) while helping crush their competition.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
****
But, those industrialists were thoroughly under Hitler's bootheel. The level of bureaucracy and things they were required to do made it clear who was in charge.
And God forbid if they charged more for something than some bureaucrat felt was appropriate.
History will be repeating itself.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at October 17, 2016 05:18 PM (m3iiU)
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Right, because the Republicans have really demonstrated a backbone in standing against things when the media is shouting that doing so is racist/sexist.
Posted by: buzzion
It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it. Same with his worthless stimulus package.
I'm not saying I love the GOP, I don't, but I really don't see Hillary getting much of anything "done" except judges, which is plenty.
Posted by: buzzion
It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it. Same with his worthless stimulus package.
I'm not saying I love the GOP, I don't, but I really don't see Hillary getting much of anything "done" except judges, which is plenty.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:18 PM (6w7Vd)
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For an idealist, Hillary sure has a lot to show for it, right?
Oh, wait. That's completely the opposite of her record.
Oh, wait. That's completely the opposite of her record.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2016 05:18 PM (V3IFq)
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If Hillary wins, I see her being the most unpopular President in the history of polling. And I see her not getting a single law that really matters passed.
Posted by: Maritime
Doesn't need to. As the last 8 years have shown us, the existing laws can be manipulated by the Imperial Bureaucracy any way they see fit.
It's not like there was a new law passed making the Navy pay for sex change operations.
If Hillary wins, I see her being the most unpopular President in the history of polling. And I see her not getting a single law that really matters passed.
Posted by: Maritime
Doesn't need to. As the last 8 years have shown us, the existing laws can be manipulated by the Imperial Bureaucracy any way they see fit.
It's not like there was a new law passed making the Navy pay for sex change operations.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 05:19 PM (kdS6q)
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Actually, if you read her Wall Street speeches, you'll see there's no grand utopian vision of A City on the Hill. What she's about is herself, no Grand Vision for Humanity other than her own historic power.
She's a megalomaniac, not a religious maniac.
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But don't forget that she lies. She will lie about anything and everything that she calculates will provide her advantage, and has been so successful with her lies that she must now believe there is no bad consequence for lying.
So we shouldn't assume when she says that she has a public and a private position, that the private is the true position and the public is the lie.
They may both be lies.
She's a megalomaniac, not a religious maniac.
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But don't forget that she lies. She will lie about anything and everything that she calculates will provide her advantage, and has been so successful with her lies that she must now believe there is no bad consequence for lying.
So we shouldn't assume when she says that she has a public and a private position, that the private is the true position and the public is the lie.
They may both be lies.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 17, 2016 05:19 PM (hA1V+)
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34 FWIW, I can't think of a single Evangelical I know that's not on board with Trump (and in a big way) despite his personal life. So I don't think many social conservatives are going to abandon him.
My view on Hillary (and the Clintons in general) is that they aren't as radical idologically as Obama and his crew, but are far more corrupt.
I have zero doubt America would have been far better off had Hillary ben the Dem President instead of Obama.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 04:40 PM (6w7Vd)
Unfortunately, I do, including Andy Crouch, who wrote about "speaking truth to Trump" last week in Christianity Today:
http://bit.ly/2dGBQaV
I probably lost friends on FB when I responded to another mutual friend who posted the article with a breathless "thank you for saying what I've been trying to say this whole time" sort of comment.
Like, I gather from the post, Tusk, I cannot take seriously those Christians who are wearing out their fainting couches and striving to outdo one another with their virtue signaling. It's laughable to posit that voting Trump presents an unsolvable and unavoidable Christian ethical conundrum (I like Andy, personally, but he manages to make out that voting strategically could be idolatry), but voting for Hillary is more of a garden variety level of objection to the Christian.
Someone had an interesting post about how the German Church went full Social Democrat and ended up in a pretty nasty place. Hard to see that we're too far behind.
My view on Hillary (and the Clintons in general) is that they aren't as radical idologically as Obama and his crew, but are far more corrupt.
I have zero doubt America would have been far better off had Hillary ben the Dem President instead of Obama.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 04:40 PM (6w7Vd)
Unfortunately, I do, including Andy Crouch, who wrote about "speaking truth to Trump" last week in Christianity Today:
http://bit.ly/2dGBQaV
I probably lost friends on FB when I responded to another mutual friend who posted the article with a breathless "thank you for saying what I've been trying to say this whole time" sort of comment.
Like, I gather from the post, Tusk, I cannot take seriously those Christians who are wearing out their fainting couches and striving to outdo one another with their virtue signaling. It's laughable to posit that voting Trump presents an unsolvable and unavoidable Christian ethical conundrum (I like Andy, personally, but he manages to make out that voting strategically could be idolatry), but voting for Hillary is more of a garden variety level of objection to the Christian.
Someone had an interesting post about how the German Church went full Social Democrat and ended up in a pretty nasty place. Hard to see that we're too far behind.
Posted by: TexasDan, Standard Deplorable Redneck at October 17, 2016 05:19 PM (yL25O)
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I'm not an atheist, but I imagine they had their brand poisoned by True Believer types.
Posted by: Max Power at October 17, 2016 05:19 PM (q177U)
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The duality of the Democrat-Leftists are ideology and greed/power lust. For years, the latter pretty much drove their agenda and then after 1972, it was the former as the party mutated into what it is today.
Make no mistake; they LOVE to get their hands on all that lucre, but scum like Warren, Sanders, Gutierrez, are cut from a different cloth than Biden, Manchin, Landreaux etc.
Hillary is somewhere in the middle of that. Bill, for sure, is all about the money.
The duality of the Democrat-Leftists are ideology and greed/power lust. For years, the latter pretty much drove their agenda and then after 1972, it was the former as the party mutated into what it is today.
Make no mistake; they LOVE to get their hands on all that lucre, but scum like Warren, Sanders, Gutierrez, are cut from a different cloth than Biden, Manchin, Landreaux etc.
Hillary is somewhere in the middle of that. Bill, for sure, is all about the money.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:20 PM (9P3OG)
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"Next on The Five, Kimberly Guilfoyle sits down for an hour-long one on one interview with Shep Smith...."
I hear he smokes pole.
I can hardly wait for the hours of coverage over this vital issue.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:15 PM (g6yUI)
Barry: Shep is gay? hmm... he always seemed so butch to me. Maybe I should do a one on one interview with him at the White House.
I hear he smokes pole.
I can hardly wait for the hours of coverage over this vital issue.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:15 PM (g6yUI)
Barry: Shep is gay? hmm... he always seemed so butch to me. Maybe I should do a one on one interview with him at the White House.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 05:20 PM (493sH)
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James O'Keefe: WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance. Are these publically traded media corporations afraid of @TheJusticeDept reprisals / retaliation?
Posted by: Meremortal at October 17, 2016 05:20 PM (3myMJ)
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They're too busy whining about dangerous
skepticism in the election process.
This country was founded on 'skepticism' of those in charge.
They're too busy whining about dangerous
skepticism in the election process.
This country was founded on 'skepticism' of those in charge.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:20 PM (g6yUI)
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She may be a true believer, but Hillary has always been a believer in her own ambition. It was not enough to be First Lady, she had to be a "co-president." Then she had to author a serious healthcare proposal -- Hillarycare -- until that went sour and could never be mentioned again.
Then, she couldn't go away; she had to be a Senator. Then President. Then Secretary of State, and then President.
Its ambition. Blind ambition. She had the insight to realize that the Goldwater train was not going to satisfy her, so she instead chained her life to a serial liar, womanizer and rapist. If she was a true believer in, say, "women," would she have remained in that relationship?
No. It was her personal ambition that made her stay. Over time, that became married to a bitter revanchism. Everything else is window dressing.
Then, she couldn't go away; she had to be a Senator. Then President. Then Secretary of State, and then President.
Its ambition. Blind ambition. She had the insight to realize that the Goldwater train was not going to satisfy her, so she instead chained her life to a serial liar, womanizer and rapist. If she was a true believer in, say, "women," would she have remained in that relationship?
No. It was her personal ambition that made her stay. Over time, that became married to a bitter revanchism. Everything else is window dressing.
Posted by: Revenant at October 17, 2016 05:20 PM (3DSAh)
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So now I curse that raven's fire
You made me hate, you made me burn
He laughed aloud as he flew from Eden
You always knew, you never learn
So now I curse that raven's fire
You made me hate, you made me burn
He laughed aloud as he flew from Eden
You always knew, you never learn
Posted by: White Buffalo at October 17, 2016 05:20 PM (kTF2Z)
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Doesn't need to. As the last 8 years have shown us, the existing laws can be manipulated by the Imperial Bureaucracy any way they see fit.
It's not like there was a new law passed making the Navy pay for sex change operations.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
And that's the danger, and with a President Trump , it would be good to have Congress reassert itself if nothing else.
It's not like there was a new law passed making the Navy pay for sex change operations.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
And that's the danger, and with a President Trump , it would be good to have Congress reassert itself if nothing else.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:20 PM (6w7Vd)
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So she's just going to ignore the fact that she is AWFUL in order to 'deliver' us?
Physician, euthanize thyself.
Physician, euthanize thyself.
Posted by: t-bird at October 17, 2016 05:20 PM (2z74n)
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How does Hikkary's supposed zeal to do right square with the criminal and corrupt behavior?
Posted by: Decaf at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM (8zHLN)
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Those who reject God often find themselves searching for secular replacements or versions of Him. With the Left, it always seems to be one of their politicians. That kinda tells me all I need to know about the Left.
Posted by: JuJuBee at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM (kma8f)
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James O'Keefe: WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance.
And today's the day that all their secrets got too close to the surface.
And today's the day that all their secrets got too close to the surface.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM (g6yUI)
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It's kind of late to post, since all the good things have already been said, so I won't try and be astute, or quotable.
Instead, I'll just ask -- does this country ever want a Zealot, of any flavor?
Instead, I'll just ask -- does this country ever want a Zealot, of any flavor?
Posted by: tubal at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM (d6TTt)
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I could think of a lot worse than ending up with a Dana Perino.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM (QGkuq)
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Love how it works:
-- Democrat Gabby Giffords shot by a progressive stalker: we need Republicans to stop it with the incendiary rhetoric
-- Democrat immigrant murders 49 patrons of a gay nightclub: we need Republicans to stop it with the incendiary rhetoric
-- Republican assaulted outside of Trump rallies, a NC GOP campaign office firebombed: we need Republicans to stop it with the incendiary rhetoric
That's the benefit of being a "deplorable," I guess - it's always your fault regardless of who commits the crime.
-- Democrat Gabby Giffords shot by a progressive stalker: we need Republicans to stop it with the incendiary rhetoric
-- Democrat immigrant murders 49 patrons of a gay nightclub: we need Republicans to stop it with the incendiary rhetoric
-- Republican assaulted outside of Trump rallies, a NC GOP campaign office firebombed: we need Republicans to stop it with the incendiary rhetoric
That's the benefit of being a "deplorable," I guess - it's always your fault regardless of who commits the crime.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM (NOIQH)
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But Maritime - as any number of ignoramuses will come here and remind us, occasionally - Obama has had zero legislative victories since the voters dragged an indifferent/hostile GOP across the line and handed them both houses the last 6 years.
(forget the idiocy of the statement, let's work with it here)
Yet ...... yet, how are things going? How "thwarted" does Obama seem on anything of consequence? Right - not very.
Rule by decree via EO and malfeasance (refusing to enforce laws), weaponizing the DOJ and IRS and others, ruling without any real budget and relying on a near-blank check from a "GOP" Congress in the form of CRs replacing approps bills - no reason Hillary cannot use the model that has developed the last few years.
(forget the idiocy of the statement, let's work with it here)
Yet ...... yet, how are things going? How "thwarted" does Obama seem on anything of consequence? Right - not very.
Rule by decree via EO and malfeasance (refusing to enforce laws), weaponizing the DOJ and IRS and others, ruling without any real budget and relying on a near-blank check from a "GOP" Congress in the form of CRs replacing approps bills - no reason Hillary cannot use the model that has developed the last few years.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:22 PM (QDnY+)
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It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it.
Posted by: Maritime
I forever will be He Whom the Republicans Deny Existed.
Posted by: Rep Joseph Cao
It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it.
Posted by: Maritime
I forever will be He Whom the Republicans Deny Existed.
Posted by: Rep Joseph Cao
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 05:22 PM (kdS6q)
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297 Posted by: Tilikum KAW at October 17, 2016 05:18 PM (m3iiU)
I'm speaking in broad strokes, but I get what you're saying.
OT: How are you feeling these days?
I'm speaking in broad strokes, but I get what you're saying.
OT: How are you feeling these days?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:22 PM (9P3OG)
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28 So, she is like some women who are convinced that they can "change" the man they are dating/married to. Except in this case, the "man" is America and we can be changed. If not voluntarily, then through the soft, gentle hand of a coercion delivered by the government.
Which also explains why she has stayed with Bill for so long.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life
Pretty sure Bill was never going to be down with the type of change required to make her happy (i.e., gender reassignment).
Which also explains why she has stayed with Bill for so long.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life
Pretty sure Bill was never going to be down with the type of change required to make her happy (i.e., gender reassignment).
Posted by: That's Ms. Leeds at October 17, 2016 05:23 PM (iWW0H)
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smart people call having public and private positions "the noble lie."
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:23 PM (cPsPa)
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It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it. Same with his worthless stimulus package.
I'm not saying I love the GOP, I don't, but I really don't see Hillary getting much of anything "done" except judges, which is plenty.
Posted by: Maritime
I got two words for you:
Chai Feldblum.
She was the fringe-maniac lesbian activist who wants to legalize polygamy and all other forms of "alternative marriage" and who said in open testimony that conservatives do NOT have the right to even THINK in private their evil conservative thoughts, which should be outlawed.
Who cares? Well, Obama nominated her to the EEOC -- and the Republicans in Congress approved and voted her in.
As far as aI know, she's still determining the work/employment laws of this nation, and you have the GOP to thank.
I'm not saying I love the GOP, I don't, but I really don't see Hillary getting much of anything "done" except judges, which is plenty.
Posted by: Maritime
I got two words for you:
Chai Feldblum.
She was the fringe-maniac lesbian activist who wants to legalize polygamy and all other forms of "alternative marriage" and who said in open testimony that conservatives do NOT have the right to even THINK in private their evil conservative thoughts, which should be outlawed.
Who cares? Well, Obama nominated her to the EEOC -- and the Republicans in Congress approved and voted her in.
As far as aI know, she's still determining the work/employment laws of this nation, and you have the GOP to thank.
Posted by: zombie at October 17, 2016 05:23 PM (jBuUi)
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314 James O'Keefe: WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance.
And today's the day that all their secrets got too close to the surface.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM (g6yUI)
Hannity should grab him. Let's see management try and interfere with that.
And today's the day that all their secrets got too close to the surface.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM (g6yUI)
Hannity should grab him. Let's see management try and interfere with that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:23 PM (9P3OG)
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I'm not buying this theory of messianism, Hillary just wants to rule the world even if it's only for five minutes. I think she is more driven by revenge and settling old scores.
Posted by: Decaf at October 17, 2016 05:23 PM (8zHLN)
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312 How does Hikkary's supposed zeal to do right square with the criminal and corrupt behavior?
Posted by: Decaf at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM (8zHLN)
You've never come across people that are complete bastards and unlikable people that will lie to your face, but think its ok because they're "a good Christian?"
Really?
Posted by: Decaf at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM (8zHLN)
You've never come across people that are complete bastards and unlikable people that will lie to your face, but think its ok because they're "a good Christian?"
Really?
Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2016 05:23 PM (z/Ubi)
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Sure, Trump is vulgar and indecent as an individual.
People keep saying this. Apparently he's the only NYer who doesn't say fuck at all let alone every other sentence.
People keep saying this. Apparently he's the only NYer who doesn't say fuck at all let alone every other sentence.
Posted by: DaveA at October 17, 2016 05:23 PM (8J/Te)
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Something newsworthy comes out and Fox jumps... to bury it.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2016 05:24 PM (05FSz)
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Something newsworthy comes out and Fox jumps... to bury it.
Which means it won't be covered anywhere....
Which means it won't be covered anywhere....
Posted by: deplorable donna at October 17, 2016 05:25 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2016 05:26 PM (05FSz)
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So she's like Obama in many ways. The religion of the liberals or the left is the religion the shebitch or obummer. Nice to now. We are so boned.
Posted by: USNtakim at October 17, 2016 05:26 PM (hMqvx)
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I suspect Hillary will destroy the firearms industry via the regulations already in place.
Bet she bans all imports of firearms too.
Bet she bans all imports of firearms too.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at October 17, 2016 05:26 PM (+aCe4)
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Hillary began her corrupt, criminal career as an apologist/shyster for the Black Panthers, then moved to the Impeachment Committee after flunking the DC bar exam, where she covered up Bill's connections to Heidi's call-girl ring and worked to deny Nixon his rights, and then it was off to the races in Arkansas,.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen at October 17, 2016 05:13 PM (gjyrg)
There is another key point her makeup--in order to succeed, she had to leave DC and go to Arkansas with Bill. Why couldn't she stay in DC and carve out her own kingdom? She had the IVY league credentials and feminism was in its first flower. Well, let me count the ways:
* Failed the DC bar exam
* Was excoriated for being unethical and criminal
* Nobody liked her because it was always about her and her shortcuts.
Once she got to Arkansas, everything was connected to Bill. Without him, no comfy law partnership because at best, she was a tenth rate hack. So she had to be the "breadwinner", even though her salary was just a kickback to Bill. She had to turn a blind eye to all his peccadilloes and manage the fallout.
She is an evil bitter creature who is still wondering what the hell happened on the way to her being a success.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen at October 17, 2016 05:13 PM (gjyrg)
There is another key point her makeup--in order to succeed, she had to leave DC and go to Arkansas with Bill. Why couldn't she stay in DC and carve out her own kingdom? She had the IVY league credentials and feminism was in its first flower. Well, let me count the ways:
* Failed the DC bar exam
* Was excoriated for being unethical and criminal
* Nobody liked her because it was always about her and her shortcuts.
Once she got to Arkansas, everything was connected to Bill. Without him, no comfy law partnership because at best, she was a tenth rate hack. So she had to be the "breadwinner", even though her salary was just a kickback to Bill. She had to turn a blind eye to all his peccadilloes and manage the fallout.
She is an evil bitter creature who is still wondering what the hell happened on the way to her being a success.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at October 17, 2016 05:26 PM (kXoT0)
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I'm a bit too old to have a sudden conversion over political beliefs.
Oh, cmon ace! Plenty of 29 year olds are still figuring out life and their world view.
Oh, cmon ace! Plenty of 29 year olds are still figuring out life and their world view.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 05:26 PM (cJrMO)
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Yet again. Fox News - bastion of Conservatism.
Last time I'll say it, I promise.
Last time I'll say it, I promise.
Posted by: tubal at October 17, 2016 05:26 PM (d6TTt)
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Yet ...... yet, how are things going? How "thwarted" does Obama seem on anything of consequence? Right - not very.
Posted by: rhomboid
The problem is, some conservatives have got this crazy idea that one branch can somehow unilaterally remove a law they don't like without the President signing it.
So I really don't know what you can do about Obamacare short of passing a bill that repeals it like the Founders intended.
I blame Obama and Democrats for Obamacare. And the American people for giving Obama a 2nd term.
Yet ...... yet, how are things going? How "thwarted" does Obama seem on anything of consequence? Right - not very.
Posted by: rhomboid
The problem is, some conservatives have got this crazy idea that one branch can somehow unilaterally remove a law they don't like without the President signing it.
So I really don't know what you can do about Obamacare short of passing a bill that repeals it like the Founders intended.
I blame Obama and Democrats for Obamacare. And the American people for giving Obama a 2nd term.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:26 PM (6w7Vd)
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It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:18 PM (6w7Vd)
That's not really true. BarkyCare was saved from actual death by a Republican - one of the Maine witches (the call of history ...) in the finance committee gave the vote to allow it out. Without that vote Barky Care would never have been resurrected.
As to the House, the GOP really did nothing to stop BarkyCare. Sure, they didn't vote for it, but they didn't pull any parliamentary procedures to really hinder its passage. They didn't even force one of the various 2500+ page bills to be read aloud before voting.
And the GOP Senate also helped out BarkyCare by allowing that vote at midnight on Christmas Eve (was it) in order to get .... I forget what they claimed they got in return but I remember that it was a total joke.
Yeah ... the GOP didn't vote for BarkyCare, but they certainly didn't want to stand in its way, too much, and they did help at some very important moments when it could have been crushed forever.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:18 PM (6w7Vd)
That's not really true. BarkyCare was saved from actual death by a Republican - one of the Maine witches (the call of history ...) in the finance committee gave the vote to allow it out. Without that vote Barky Care would never have been resurrected.
As to the House, the GOP really did nothing to stop BarkyCare. Sure, they didn't vote for it, but they didn't pull any parliamentary procedures to really hinder its passage. They didn't even force one of the various 2500+ page bills to be read aloud before voting.
And the GOP Senate also helped out BarkyCare by allowing that vote at midnight on Christmas Eve (was it) in order to get .... I forget what they claimed they got in return but I remember that it was a total joke.
Yeah ... the GOP didn't vote for BarkyCare, but they certainly didn't want to stand in its way, too much, and they did help at some very important moments when it could have been crushed forever.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 17, 2016 05:27 PM (zc3Db)
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Why the Republicans allow anyone to be appointed to the EEOC baffles me.
Posted by: Jean at October 17, 2016 05:27 PM (l0R9B)
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Trump really only wants to make his opponents think differently in one regard: He wants them to think Trump is awesome. Beyond that, as to what you think and say, he doesn't care.
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True about the ego stuff, BUT he managed by either dumb luck or true belief to latch on the issue of 21st century: The nation state vs. Internationalism. Is the nation state the highest authority, or is it a developing international order?
Sort of the like conflict between states rights vs. federal authority in America, just supersized upon continents and across oceans.
I wonder sometimes if the reason so many politicians seem to not care about large national debts in the "industrialized world" is because they assume at some point they will be combined into a "world debt" assumed by a "world government".
Sort of how Alexander Hamilton took all the state debts and combined them as federal debt. That of course would increase the power of the government, like it did in America as Hamilton wanted.
Sounds crazy, but considering what we have seen so far is it so crazy? I am sure some radical internationalists at some think tank has already come up with this...at least in their mind.
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True about the ego stuff, BUT he managed by either dumb luck or true belief to latch on the issue of 21st century: The nation state vs. Internationalism. Is the nation state the highest authority, or is it a developing international order?
Sort of the like conflict between states rights vs. federal authority in America, just supersized upon continents and across oceans.
I wonder sometimes if the reason so many politicians seem to not care about large national debts in the "industrialized world" is because they assume at some point they will be combined into a "world debt" assumed by a "world government".
Sort of how Alexander Hamilton took all the state debts and combined them as federal debt. That of course would increase the power of the government, like it did in America as Hamilton wanted.
Sounds crazy, but considering what we have seen so far is it so crazy? I am sure some radical internationalists at some think tank has already come up with this...at least in their mind.
Posted by: William Eaton at October 17, 2016 05:27 PM (KhJh8)
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I forever will be He Whom the Republicans Deny Existed.
Posted by: Rep Joseph Cao
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
Didn't vote for like the first draft but not the final bill?
I honestly don't know.
Posted by: Rep Joseph Cao
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
Didn't vote for like the first draft but not the final bill?
I honestly don't know.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:28 PM (6w7Vd)
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ace for this post though, I disagree.
I think she's a cynical power hungry corruptocrat, like most politicians. Completely devoid of any ideology beyond what the polls tell them their ideology should be. I think that also explains her seemingly Goldwater-to-flaming liberal transition. She saw Goldwater crash and burn, then in college was around a new "popular opinion".
Unfortunately, true believer or cynical power hungry corrupt politician... not a huge difference in outcomes.
I think she's a cynical power hungry corruptocrat, like most politicians. Completely devoid of any ideology beyond what the polls tell them their ideology should be. I think that also explains her seemingly Goldwater-to-flaming liberal transition. She saw Goldwater crash and burn, then in college was around a new "popular opinion".
Unfortunately, true believer or cynical power hungry corrupt politician... not a huge difference in outcomes.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 05:28 PM (cJrMO)
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I hate how my standard rant about The Left applies to fucking EVERYTHING......
Frau Gruppencankles is exactly like every other Lefty in history. They don't care about building a socialist utopia, they only care about destroying Western Civilization, which is why the Left is obsessed with ball-sucking the mohammedans. They're allies, with a common goal, it's just that the mohammedans actually have a plan for what comes afterwards.
Destruction, slavery and death are the Left's goals, and the end result doesn't matter one whit to them, as long as they get to personally shoot a few kneeling Kulaks in the back of the neck.
Das Frau simply realized that she was more likely to get to slaughter people by being on the Left rather than the Right.
I hate how my standard rant about The Left applies to fucking EVERYTHING......
Frau Gruppencankles is exactly like every other Lefty in history. They don't care about building a socialist utopia, they only care about destroying Western Civilization, which is why the Left is obsessed with ball-sucking the mohammedans. They're allies, with a common goal, it's just that the mohammedans actually have a plan for what comes afterwards.
Destruction, slavery and death are the Left's goals, and the end result doesn't matter one whit to them, as long as they get to personally shoot a few kneeling Kulaks in the back of the neck.
Das Frau simply realized that she was more likely to get to slaughter people by being on the Left rather than the Right.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2016 05:28 PM (LuZz8)
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Was that a little tongue in cheek to say "Colon"
Posted by: lynndh at October 17, 2016 05:29 PM (DaWUf)
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287 They're too busy whining about dangerous
skepticism in the election process
A secular prophetess said as much in 2008. Anybody remember Michelle O's screeching as much when speaking about her husband. That we will HAVE to set aside our skepticism and work (will set you free. Ok, I added that part). I remember that. I can't find it but its out there in the interwebs. It was scary. Such overt cultish fascism and 52% ate it up, twice.
skepticism in the election process
A secular prophetess said as much in 2008. Anybody remember Michelle O's screeching as much when speaking about her husband. That we will HAVE to set aside our skepticism and work (will set you free. Ok, I added that part). I remember that. I can't find it but its out there in the interwebs. It was scary. Such overt cultish fascism and 52% ate it up, twice.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 17, 2016 05:29 PM (NtlIK)
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ever get the feeling thee is a lot going on just under the surface, plates shifting around, but we do not see the connections.
you have the kuznetsov sailing by scotland practicing bombing runs;
rt gets its accounts frozen;
cease fire in syria;
biden and cia saying there is going to be cyber revenge;
defcon rumors,
assange rumors
but nothing really happening
you have the kuznetsov sailing by scotland practicing bombing runs;
rt gets its accounts frozen;
cease fire in syria;
biden and cia saying there is going to be cyber revenge;
defcon rumors,
assange rumors
but nothing really happening
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:29 PM (cPsPa)
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Maritime, Obama got his second term because the Republican Party fueled the couch and offered the voters Romney. In an election which turned on Massachusetts-style health insurance and bank bailouts, the GOP offered Romney.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2016 05:29 PM (05FSz)
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2014 e-mail exchange between Mook and Huma.
Mook: "make Soros happy"
Huma: "She is having dinner with him tonight.
Heh. You can't make this up ... until you put on your tin foil hat!
Mook: "make Soros happy"
Huma: "She is having dinner with him tonight.
Heh. You can't make this up ... until you put on your tin foil hat!
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 05:29 PM (r1fLd)
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I've pointed it out before but the Fox news site does cover all of the negative Hillary news. I don't know why their network shows don't report the same news.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 17, 2016 05:30 PM (QGkuq)
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It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it.
Posted by: Maritime
Remind me how it got out of Committee than?
It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it.
Posted by: Maritime
Remind me how it got out of Committee than?
Posted by: Jean at October 17, 2016 05:30 PM (l0R9B)
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Posted by: William Eaton at October 17, 2016 05:27 PM (KhJh
Maybe there is some of that. I think mostly it's that they know most debt is held by other institutional players, and that its a big wink and nod between the EU, China, Japan, US, etc. etc about the debt. Japan counts US debt as an "asset" we count their debt as an "asset" so instead of it looking like there is an ungodly amount of liabilities floating around out there, they get a glass-half-full "hey, look at all of these awesome assets we have!" attitude.
Mostly its about being able to spend recklessly without any regard to the future.
Maybe there is some of that. I think mostly it's that they know most debt is held by other institutional players, and that its a big wink and nod between the EU, China, Japan, US, etc. etc about the debt. Japan counts US debt as an "asset" we count their debt as an "asset" so instead of it looking like there is an ungodly amount of liabilities floating around out there, they get a glass-half-full "hey, look at all of these awesome assets we have!" attitude.
Mostly its about being able to spend recklessly without any regard to the future.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 05:30 PM (cJrMO)
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68 I don't know if I buy this.
She seems to meto be motivated by revenge. Her life is empty, hollow, and its obviously the workd's fault. We are going to have to pay for the sin of not loving her as she is entitled to.
As Trump said: "She has hate in her heart."
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That sounds like this...
Wyatt Earp: What makes a man like Ringo, Doc? What makes him do the things he does?
Doc Holliday: A man like Ringo has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. He can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.
Wyatt Earp: What does he need?
Doc Holliday: Revenge.
Wyatt Earp: For what?
Doc Holliday: Bein' born.
She seems to meto be motivated by revenge. Her life is empty, hollow, and its obviously the workd's fault. We are going to have to pay for the sin of not loving her as she is entitled to.
As Trump said: "She has hate in her heart."
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That sounds like this...
Wyatt Earp: What makes a man like Ringo, Doc? What makes him do the things he does?
Doc Holliday: A man like Ringo has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. He can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.
Wyatt Earp: What does he need?
Doc Holliday: Revenge.
Wyatt Earp: For what?
Doc Holliday: Bein' born.
Posted by: Texas99 at October 17, 2016 05:30 PM (Q/obp)
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The problem is, some conservatives have got this crazy idea that one branch can somehow unilaterally remove a law they don't like without the President signing it.
So I really don't know what you can do about Obamacare short of passing a bill that repeals it like the Founders intended. "
Well, congress funds the executive. In theory they could refuse to do so unless the president consents to signs. Bill repealing XYZ.
In theory.
The problem is, some conservatives have got this crazy idea that one branch can somehow unilaterally remove a law they don't like without the President signing it.
So I really don't know what you can do about Obamacare short of passing a bill that repeals it like the Founders intended. "
Well, congress funds the executive. In theory they could refuse to do so unless the president consents to signs. Bill repealing XYZ.
In theory.
Posted by: Knemon at October 17, 2016 05:31 PM (hIRY0)
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Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2016 05:29 PM (05FSz)
Obamacare was last on the list of voter concerns in 2012.
Obamacare was last on the list of voter concerns in 2012.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 17, 2016 05:31 PM (QGkuq)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 05:31 PM (J+eG2)
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What secret agenda of Trump's has everyone quivering and hoping for Congress to rein him in if he's elected? I must have missed it.
Are we all hoping against hope that Congress prevents Trump from exercising normal executive power to:
actually enforce immigration laws
get the boot off the real (fossil fuel) energy industry
get the regulatory boot off private business generally
stop pushing Common Core
stop violating laws to prop up Obamacare
trash the Iran disaster and work towards another policy more like the one recklessly abandoned by Obama
??????
Exactly which policies Trump now publicly supports (and repeats in every public appearance) are so anathema, so scary for the dimwits who pretend to oppose him on any real substantive grounds?
Trade policy changes? News bulletin: actually changing any existing trade policies or agreements, as opposed to modifying or not pursuing new ones, is mostly NOT something the executive can do very much on its own. Little trifles called treaties and laws, and 0% chance any unilateral mischief there would survive 1 month in the courts.
So what are some of us missing? What are the scary, actual policy changes that a president Trump could undertake where the Congress would need to save us?
Are we all hoping against hope that Congress prevents Trump from exercising normal executive power to:
actually enforce immigration laws
get the boot off the real (fossil fuel) energy industry
get the regulatory boot off private business generally
stop pushing Common Core
stop violating laws to prop up Obamacare
trash the Iran disaster and work towards another policy more like the one recklessly abandoned by Obama
??????
Exactly which policies Trump now publicly supports (and repeats in every public appearance) are so anathema, so scary for the dimwits who pretend to oppose him on any real substantive grounds?
Trade policy changes? News bulletin: actually changing any existing trade policies or agreements, as opposed to modifying or not pursuing new ones, is mostly NOT something the executive can do very much on its own. Little trifles called treaties and laws, and 0% chance any unilateral mischief there would survive 1 month in the courts.
So what are some of us missing? What are the scary, actual policy changes that a president Trump could undertake where the Congress would need to save us?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:31 PM (QDnY+)
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That's not really true. BarkyCare was saved from actual death by a Republican - one of the Maine witches (the call of history ...) in the finance committee gave the vote to allow it out. Without that vote Barky Care would never have been resurrected.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Look, Obama and Democrats had 60 Senate seats, he was going to get his bill passed even if some rules had to be changed like they did at the end where they removed the 60 vote requirement.
Again, I don't doubt certain Republicans could have done more, but I do get tired of the narrative that Republicans that had zero power at the time are to blame for something as awful as ObamaCare. It's like blaming the raped woman for how she dressed.
That's not really true. BarkyCare was saved from actual death by a Republican - one of the Maine witches (the call of history ...) in the finance committee gave the vote to allow it out. Without that vote Barky Care would never have been resurrected.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Look, Obama and Democrats had 60 Senate seats, he was going to get his bill passed even if some rules had to be changed like they did at the end where they removed the 60 vote requirement.
Again, I don't doubt certain Republicans could have done more, but I do get tired of the narrative that Republicans that had zero power at the time are to blame for something as awful as ObamaCare. It's like blaming the raped woman for how she dressed.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:31 PM (6w7Vd)
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20 "Obama thinks America is terrible and wants to make it better. "
Nah, he thinks Americans are pretty awful also...well at least white Americans.
Remember his line that "Racism is in the DNA of Americans..."
There can't be a much worse slander than that.
Nah, he thinks Americans are pretty awful also...well at least white Americans.
Remember his line that "Racism is in the DNA of Americans..."
There can't be a much worse slander than that.
Posted by: doesky2 at October 17, 2016 05:31 PM (Zpygp)
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Guaranteed Chris Wallace won't mention any of the substance about Clinton. If he does it will be tangential and just enough to say see what I did!
Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2016 05:32 PM (V03pJ)
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Sure, Trump is vulgar and indecent as an individual. "
Anybody ever watch Jersey Shore?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 05:31 PM (J+eG2)
so, anyone ever encounter vulgarity outside of ny?
Anybody ever watch Jersey Shore?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 05:31 PM (J+eG2)
so, anyone ever encounter vulgarity outside of ny?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:32 PM (cPsPa)
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It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it.
Posted by: Maritime
Remind me how it got out of Committee than?
Posted by: Jean at October 17, 2016 05:30 PM (l0R9B)
It was "deemed" passed and then it was tagged onto a budget bill where only a simple majority was needed for passage.
How quickly we forget.
It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it.
Posted by: Maritime
Remind me how it got out of Committee than?
Posted by: Jean at October 17, 2016 05:30 PM (l0R9B)
It was "deemed" passed and then it was tagged onto a budget bill where only a simple majority was needed for passage.
How quickly we forget.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:33 PM (9P3OG)
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"Couldn't agree less. She's always been a fire-breathing liberal. She just hasn't had the popular sentiment to allow her to show her true colors. She's throwing blades of grass in the wind and noticing the change. She can show her true liberal side - especially after the election.
Yeah, she likes to make money. That just makes her like the rest of the left-wing leaders out there in China, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. She will sell her liberal positions to the suckers while she makes a ton of money and holds political power.
When she leaves, she will leave a rotted husk of the former republic that was the United States of America.
Posted by: MacGruber at October 17, 2016 05:14 PM (FEAjO)"
She's had plenty of opportunity over the years to advance The Cause and she didn't. Now those on the ideologue side of the question will argue that it's only so she can get elected or reelected or retain power, but that makes the other side's point. She cares much more about power and ambition than she does ideology because, when given a choice between the two, she chooses power. Even if you argue that she only obviates her beliefs to attain power, she never seems to spend in furtherance of left-wing goals UNLESS those goals happen to carry no political consequences for her.
The only thing Hillary Clinton is a True Believer in is Hillary Clinton.
Yeah, she likes to make money. That just makes her like the rest of the left-wing leaders out there in China, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. She will sell her liberal positions to the suckers while she makes a ton of money and holds political power.
When she leaves, she will leave a rotted husk of the former republic that was the United States of America.
Posted by: MacGruber at October 17, 2016 05:14 PM (FEAjO)"
She's had plenty of opportunity over the years to advance The Cause and she didn't. Now those on the ideologue side of the question will argue that it's only so she can get elected or reelected or retain power, but that makes the other side's point. She cares much more about power and ambition than she does ideology because, when given a choice between the two, she chooses power. Even if you argue that she only obviates her beliefs to attain power, she never seems to spend in furtherance of left-wing goals UNLESS those goals happen to carry no political consequences for her.
The only thing Hillary Clinton is a True Believer in is Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 17, 2016 05:33 PM (Rtyzj)
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It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it.
Posted by: Maritime
Remind me how it got out of Committee than?
Posted by: Jean at October 17, 2016 05:30 PM (l0R9B)
That's how they got around Scott Walker being elected as the blocking vote in the Senate.
It was the Democrat House and Senate that passed Obamacare, not one Republican voted for it.
Posted by: Maritime
Remind me how it got out of Committee than?
Posted by: Jean at October 17, 2016 05:30 PM (l0R9B)
That's how they got around Scott Walker being elected as the blocking vote in the Senate.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:33 PM (9P3OG)
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OH Hillary has big plans. Wasn't arab spring largely set up by the Clinton Foundation. Barky just went along with it. "we came, we saw, he died" about Ghadafi. Her big action as SoS was to take out Ghadafi, and Mubarak in Egypt. Maybe she found her true religion in Islam, where the rules don't apply to the powerful.
Posted by: PaleRider at October 17, 2016 05:33 PM (dkExz)
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That's how they got around Scott Walker being elected as the blocking vote in the Senate.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
You mean Scott Brown
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
You mean Scott Brown
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:34 PM (6w7Vd)
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Trade policy changes? News bulletin: actually changing any existing trade policies or agreements, as opposed to modifying or not pursuing new ones, is mostly NOT something the executive can do very much on its own. Little trifles called treaties and laws, and 0% chance any unilateral mischief there would survive 1 month in the courts.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:31 PM (QDnY+)
our "free" "trade" "deals" are not treaties. No way any would get 2/3 of the Senate. They're legislation, like anything else. "Easily" repealed.
Not that that really changes your point, but its worth remembering.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:31 PM (QDnY+)
our "free" "trade" "deals" are not treaties. No way any would get 2/3 of the Senate. They're legislation, like anything else. "Easily" repealed.
Not that that really changes your point, but its worth remembering.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 05:34 PM (cJrMO)
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I got two words for you: Chai Feldblum.
She was the fringe-maniac lesbian activist Obama nominated her to the EEOC -- and the Republicans in Congress approved and voted her in.
Posted by: zombie
Twice. The Senate confirmed her twice.
And most of the GOP Senators opposed her the second time but, darn it, somehow the filibuster got broken and yada yada.....
I got two words for you: Chai Feldblum.
She was the fringe-maniac lesbian activist Obama nominated her to the EEOC -- and the Republicans in Congress approved and voted her in.
Posted by: zombie
Twice. The Senate confirmed her twice.
And most of the GOP Senators opposed her the second time but, darn it, somehow the filibuster got broken and yada yada.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 05:34 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 17, 2016 05:34 PM (kTF2Z)
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A woman like Hillary has got a great big hole, right in the middle of her. She can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.
Posted by: Grump928(c) strokes his mustache at October 17, 2016 05:35 PM (QQ+il)
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"The problem is, some conservatives have got this crazy idea that one
branch can somehow unilaterally remove a law they don't like without the
President signing it."
I had the crazy idea that if both the legislative and executive branches were to have colluded to enact a law which was self-contradictory and unconstitutional, then the Supreme Court would naturally nullify the thing.
Chief Justice John Roberts (thanks, Bush: *spit*) then entirely disabused me of that notion.
branch can somehow unilaterally remove a law they don't like without the
President signing it."
I had the crazy idea that if both the legislative and executive branches were to have colluded to enact a law which was self-contradictory and unconstitutional, then the Supreme Court would naturally nullify the thing.
Chief Justice John Roberts (thanks, Bush: *spit*) then entirely disabused me of that notion.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 17, 2016 05:35 PM (noWW6)
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321 28 So, she is like some women who are convinced that they can "change" the man they are dating/married to. Except in this case, the "man" is America and we can be changed. If not voluntarily, then through the soft, gentle hand of a coercion delivered by the government.
Which also explains why she has stayed with Bill for so long.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life
Pretty sure Bill was never going to be down with the type of change required to make her happy (i.e., gender reassignment).
Posted by: That's Ms. Leeds
Trying to crack it off explains that wicked bend in it described by Ms. Jones.
321 28 So, she is like some women who are convinced that they can "change" the man they are dating/married to. Except in this case, the "man" is America and we can be changed. If not voluntarily, then through the soft, gentle hand of a coercion delivered by the government.
Which also explains why she has stayed with Bill for so long.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life
Pretty sure Bill was never going to be down with the type of change required to make her happy (i.e., gender reassignment).
Posted by: That's Ms. Leeds
Trying to crack it off explains that wicked bend in it described by Ms. Jones.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 17, 2016 05:35 PM (iWW0H)
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so,
how did we get to the point that I am rooting for some pasty geek to dump piles of our files into the interwebs?
how did we get to the point that I am rooting for some pasty geek to dump piles of our files into the interwebs?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:35 PM (cPsPa)
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She is a totalitarian.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 05:35 PM (ko0V2)
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Nietzsche, I think has a better take on Hillary:
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
or
At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.
or
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
or (I think Hillary's favorite)
Great men's errors are to be venerated as more fruitful than little men's truths.
(All quotes are Nietzsche)
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
or
At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid.
or
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
or (I think Hillary's favorite)
Great men's errors are to be venerated as more fruitful than little men's truths.
(All quotes are Nietzsche)
Posted by: lightning at October 17, 2016 05:37 PM (pwONV)
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The problem is, some conservatives have got this crazy idea that one
branch can somehow unilaterally remove a law they don't like without the
President signing it."
I had the crazy idea that if both the legislative and executive branches were to have colluded to enact a law which was self-contradictory and unconstitutional, then the Supreme Court would naturally nullify the thing.
Chief Justice John Roberts (thanks, Bush: *spit*) then entirely disabused me of that notion.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 17, 2016 05:35 PM (noWW6)
basically, you get two years to do so if you control the house. you stop everything throw sand in the gears and bring everything to a halt to see who can stand it longer. if your voters are with you and you win the house again you keep going.
branch can somehow unilaterally remove a law they don't like without the
President signing it."
I had the crazy idea that if both the legislative and executive branches were to have colluded to enact a law which was self-contradictory and unconstitutional, then the Supreme Court would naturally nullify the thing.
Chief Justice John Roberts (thanks, Bush: *spit*) then entirely disabused me of that notion.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 17, 2016 05:35 PM (noWW6)
basically, you get two years to do so if you control the house. you stop everything throw sand in the gears and bring everything to a halt to see who can stand it longer. if your voters are with you and you win the house again you keep going.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:37 PM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 05:37 PM (ko0V2)
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371 so,
how did we get to the point that I am rooting for some pasty geek to dump piles of our files into the interwebs?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:35 PM (cPsPa)
Because our Elites have become Louis XIV, and his Sun Court.
And you don't like it.
how did we get to the point that I am rooting for some pasty geek to dump piles of our files into the interwebs?
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 05:35 PM (cPsPa)
Because our Elites have become Louis XIV, and his Sun Court.
And you don't like it.
Posted by: tubal at October 17, 2016 05:37 PM (d6TTt)
Posted by: Grump928(c) strokes his mustache at October 17, 2016 05:37 PM (QQ+il)
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Maybe there is some of that. I think mostly it's that they know most debt is held by other institutional players, and that its a big wink and nod between the EU, China, Japan, US, etc. etc about the debt. Japan counts US debt as an "asset" we count their debt as an "asset" so instead of it looking like there is an ungodly amount of liabilities floating around out there, they get a glass-half-full "hey, look at all of these awesome assets we have!" attitude.
Mostly its about being able to spend recklessly without any regard to the future.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 05:30 PM (cJrMO)
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True...Those are primary reasons at present, but lets say things did hit the fan (something much worse than 200, I will assume someone will bring up the "world needs a governing body to sort this all out", and one of the first moves to empower this new governing body is to assume all the national debts of everyone who "signs on" to the United Spenders of the World.
Mostly its about being able to spend recklessly without any regard to the future.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 05:30 PM (cJrMO)
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True...Those are primary reasons at present, but lets say things did hit the fan (something much worse than 200
, I will assume someone will bring up the "world needs a governing body to sort this all out", and one of the first moves to empower this new governing body is to assume all the national debts of everyone who "signs on" to the United Spenders of the World. Posted by: William Eaton at October 17, 2016 05:38 PM (KhJh8)
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James O'Keefe: WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance. Are these publically traded media corporations afraid of @TheJusticeDept reprisals / retaliation?
Posted by: Meremortal at October 17, 2016 05:20 PM (3myMJ)
Maybe Fox Business will interview him. Right now they're talking to the NC Republican Director about the firebombing and talking about CNN blaming Trump. They've also been talking all day about Wikileaks and Assange. The last hold out
Posted by: Meremortal at October 17, 2016 05:20 PM (3myMJ)
Maybe Fox Business will interview him. Right now they're talking to the NC Republican Director about the firebombing and talking about CNN blaming Trump. They've also been talking all day about Wikileaks and Assange. The last hold out
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 05:38 PM (493sH)
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358 Guaranteed Chris Wallace won't mention any of the substance about Clinton. If he does it will be tangential and just enough to say see what I did!
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His performance at the Republican primary debates was just one gotcha attempt after another.
With Wallace, it will be one gotcha question after another for Trump. The seeming surface contradiction is what he is after. Like, isn't it a contradiction for to claim Bill Clinton's accusers are credible but your own are not?
For Hillary, her campaign is undoubtedly identifying the two or three weakest points she needs to address and Wallace will be allowed to ask questions on those points, and Hillary will be carefully prepared to address them. So there will be those two or three seeming "hardball" questions for Hillary so Wallace can claim he was fair and impartial. The rest for her will be softballs.
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His performance at the Republican primary debates was just one gotcha attempt after another.
With Wallace, it will be one gotcha question after another for Trump. The seeming surface contradiction is what he is after. Like, isn't it a contradiction for to claim Bill Clinton's accusers are credible but your own are not?
For Hillary, her campaign is undoubtedly identifying the two or three weakest points she needs to address and Wallace will be allowed to ask questions on those points, and Hillary will be carefully prepared to address them. So there will be those two or three seeming "hardball" questions for Hillary so Wallace can claim he was fair and impartial. The rest for her will be softballs.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at October 17, 2016 05:38 PM (hA1V+)
381
Maybe she found her true religion in Islam, where the rules don't apply to the powerful.
Posted by: PaleRider at October 17, 2016 05:33 PM (dkExz)
She's forgetting one key point. Women have no power in Islam. They will slit her throat just as easily as other woman. Right now, she is useless, but, if anything, they hate her as much or more than we do.
Posted by: PaleRider at October 17, 2016 05:33 PM (dkExz)
She's forgetting one key point. Women have no power in Islam. They will slit her throat just as easily as other woman. Right now, she is useless, but, if anything, they hate her as much or more than we do.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at October 17, 2016 05:39 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2016 05:39 PM (SRKgf)
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#381 Sigh, I meant to type useful, not useless.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at October 17, 2016 05:40 PM (kXoT0)
384
377 Dammit, out quoted by Texas99
I should read the comments.
Posted by: Grump928(c) strokes his mustache at October 17, 2016 05:37 PM (QQ+il)
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It's worth saying twice.
I should read the comments.
Posted by: Grump928(c) strokes his mustache at October 17, 2016 05:37 PM (QQ+il)
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It's worth saying twice.
Posted by: Texas99 at October 17, 2016 05:40 PM (Q/obp)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:40 PM (g6yUI)
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Harry yes, I'm collapsing/simplifying cuz comments section but will anyone take a stab at my question?
Of the major policies he's constantly talking about, which ones are so frightening if he won the election?
I mean, frightening to anyone who pretends to support any intelligent policies?
Or is it all about feelz, ickiness, aesthetics, fearing the disapproval of dumb NPR-level acquaintances? "Someone who cares about people like me" level idiocy?
Of the major policies he's constantly talking about, which ones are so frightening if he won the election?
I mean, frightening to anyone who pretends to support any intelligent policies?
Or is it all about feelz, ickiness, aesthetics, fearing the disapproval of dumb NPR-level acquaintances? "Someone who cares about people like me" level idiocy?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:40 PM (QDnY+)
387
I got two words for you: Chai Feldblum.
She was the fringe-maniac lesbian activist Obama nominated her to the EEOC -- and the Republicans in Congress approved and voted her in.
Posted by: zombie
Well they didn't want to be accused of being anti-fringe-maniac lesbian activist
She was the fringe-maniac lesbian activist Obama nominated her to the EEOC -- and the Republicans in Congress approved and voted her in.
Posted by: zombie
Well they didn't want to be accused of being anti-fringe-maniac lesbian activist
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 17, 2016 05:40 PM (493sH)
388
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 05:00 PM (928Aa)
All Bushies hate Trump. And make no mistake, them Bushies made PeRINO into a Bushie.
All Bushies hate Trump. And make no mistake, them Bushies made PeRINO into a Bushie.
Posted by: F.N.G. at October 17, 2016 05:41 PM (kiSdp)
389
I really don't know what you do about debates because the deck is so stacked, but if you forego them a Republican gives up their one chance to talk to Americans unfiltered.
I definitely know though which anchors you can NOT let moderate.
Honestly, had Trump prepared for his 1st debate like he did the 2nd, he would have had his boot on Hillary's neck.
I definitely know though which anchors you can NOT let moderate.
Honestly, had Trump prepared for his 1st debate like he did the 2nd, he would have had his boot on Hillary's neck.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:42 PM (6w7Vd)
390
Well they didn't want to be accused of being anti-fringe-maniac lesbian activist
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That is not who we are.
Also, big tent
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That is not who we are.
Also, big tent
Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2016 05:42 PM (3Liv/)
391
Nice thing about this cycle is that the battle lines are clearly drawn.
Whether it means anything anymore to the majority, well we shall see.
Whether it means anything anymore to the majority, well we shall see.
Posted by: tubal at October 17, 2016 05:42 PM (d6TTt)
392
All Bushies hate Trump. And make no mistake, them Bushies made PeRINO into a Bushie.
Posted by: F.N.G. at October 17, 2016 05:41 PM (kiSdp)
yes and I am sorry to see that.
Posted by: F.N.G. at October 17, 2016 05:41 PM (kiSdp)
yes and I am sorry to see that.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 17, 2016 05:42 PM (zp+j1)
393
ACE: Did you notice the prominent GOP #Nevertrumpers having a weekend snark-fest on Twitter over some silly tweets from a couple of obscure Trumpkins? I have no idea who these two people are (their names were Mitchell and Mitexas I think) but the GOP elites were snarking like Jon Stewart's clapping seals do, full of smugness and mockery. It reminded me of the way the left will make a big deal out of a regrettable comment from a GOP dogcatcher somewhere in flyover country. I have no idea who Mitchell and Mitexas are but I am glad to know that they are stupider than all the Hillary-voting GOP pundits.
Posted by: AstroBevo at October 17, 2016 05:43 PM (DZF+K)
Posted by: concrete girl at October 17, 2016 05:43 PM (v1c9T)
395
389,
Honestly, had Trump prepared for his 1st debate like he did the 2nd, he would have had his boot on Hillary's neck.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:42 PM (6w7Vd)
Do you think Hillary is going to fight fire with fire on Wednesday and channel her angry inner woman?
Honestly, had Trump prepared for his 1st debate like he did the 2nd, he would have had his boot on Hillary's neck.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:42 PM (6w7Vd)
Do you think Hillary is going to fight fire with fire on Wednesday and channel her angry inner woman?
Posted by: IC at October 17, 2016 05:43 PM (a0IVu)
396
Women had some power in the Umayyad dynasty, if they happened to be Umayyad women. They could connive in the court to support their brothers and sons.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2016 05:43 PM (05FSz)
397
The problem with enthusiasm is that it burns out. I'm starting to look forward to local GOP without all the emo hysterics who showed up this year and will vanish Nov. 9. We'll go on as we always have, raising money and knocking doors for our state and local candidates.
Posted by: Jeanne del norte at October 17, 2016 05:43 PM (yh8Re)
398
The People would want me to have nice things, you know.
We can afford (1) one lice comb for the pelt.
We can afford (1) one lice comb for the pelt.
Posted by: DaveA at October 17, 2016 05:43 PM (8J/Te)
399
"With Wallace, it will be one gotcha question after another for Trump."
Also: interruptions.
There have been three "debates" so far, and in all three, the "moderators" interrupted Trump and Pence at rates far in excess of Clinton and Kaine.
Trump was a fool. He should have insisted on straight-up time-clock debates where moderators could intervene only in the event of an overrun.
Also: interruptions.
There have been three "debates" so far, and in all three, the "moderators" interrupted Trump and Pence at rates far in excess of Clinton and Kaine.
Trump was a fool. He should have insisted on straight-up time-clock debates where moderators could intervene only in the event of an overrun.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 17, 2016 05:44 PM (noWW6)
400
Honestly, had Trump prepared for his 1st debate like he did the 2nd, he would have had his boot on Hillary's neck.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:42 PM (6w7Vd)
I doubt LIVs, if they bothered watching, even remember the first debate.
Number three is the one they might retain.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:42 PM (6w7Vd)
I doubt LIVs, if they bothered watching, even remember the first debate.
Number three is the one they might retain.
Posted by: tubal at October 17, 2016 05:44 PM (d6TTt)
401
If she steals the election something tells me Hillary won't lack for enemies.
Posted by: Tracy at October 17, 2016 05:45 PM (xAoOO)
Posted by: DaveA at October 17, 2016 05:45 PM (8J/Te)
403
Maybe it's good news that the internet was cut-off for Assange and that O'Keefe has been cancelled on Fox. Supposing that just means that the Hildebeast is scared and that the election will not be that easily "fixed" -- that she will actually need a turn-out to win.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 05:45 PM (CFc5L)
404
Ah, now 4 burritos later, where were we?
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 05:45 PM (sWbjH)
405
29, I'm with you; Hillary is a grifter, pure and simple, but she has found that she likes power and all that comes with it - her and Obama have that "punish your enemies" vibe in common
Posted by: the Butcher at October 17, 2016 05:46 PM (AGJqR)
406
Well they didn't want to be accused of being anti-fringe-maniac lesbian activist
Posted by: TheQuietMan
__________
Now why in the world would I vote against antifreeze, cognac, or lobbyists for Portugal?
Where are my pants?
Posted by: TheQuietMan
__________
Now why in the world would I vote against antifreeze, cognac, or lobbyists for Portugal?
Where are my pants?
Posted by: Thad Cochran at October 17, 2016 05:46 PM (dYw0K)
407
... and that essay, in a nutshell, gives you EXACTLY why Republican Elites - and those here that still support them - find it so easy to support Hillary.
They AGREE that The State must coerce and control The Citizen ... since WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE STATE IS, BY DEFINITION, GOOD FOR THE CITIZEN AS WELL. THE CITIZEN CAN ONLY PROSPER IN A PROSPEROUS STATE. A STRONG STATE CREATES A STRONG CITIZEN.
Sure ... they disagree a bit on how those terms are defined and achieved. The Ends in other words. But there's not much daylight between the adversaries when it comes to The Means of getting there.
They're all Statists. It's just a game to decide their respective percentages of the pie.
They AGREE that The State must coerce and control The Citizen ... since WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE STATE IS, BY DEFINITION, GOOD FOR THE CITIZEN AS WELL. THE CITIZEN CAN ONLY PROSPER IN A PROSPEROUS STATE. A STRONG STATE CREATES A STRONG CITIZEN.
Sure ... they disagree a bit on how those terms are defined and achieved. The Ends in other words. But there's not much daylight between the adversaries when it comes to The Means of getting there.
They're all Statists. It's just a game to decide their respective percentages of the pie.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 17, 2016 05:46 PM (m3RIE)
408
398 The People would want me to have nice things, you know.
We can afford (1) one lice comb for the pelt.
Posted by: DaveA
In 2024, the populist candidate's presidential campaign motto will be,
"A Lice Comb for Every Pelt!"
But by then we'll all be living in caves, huddled together to fend of the freezing winds of the nee Ice Age, so I'm not sure the combs will make much difference.
We can afford (1) one lice comb for the pelt.
Posted by: DaveA
In 2024, the populist candidate's presidential campaign motto will be,
"A Lice Comb for Every Pelt!"
But by then we'll all be living in caves, huddled together to fend of the freezing winds of the nee Ice Age, so I'm not sure the combs will make much difference.
Posted by: zombie at October 17, 2016 05:46 PM (jBuUi)
409
oh for God's sakes this has all be in service of BEING ELECTED PRESIDENT
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Oh for god's sake yourself. She's just a crook and a traitor.
oh for God's sakes this has all be in service of BEING ELECTED PRESIDENT
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Oh for god's sake yourself. She's just a crook and a traitor.
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at October 17, 2016 05:46 PM (U0lQa)
410
Do you think Hillary is going to fight fire with fire on Wednesday and channel her angry inner woman?
She's gonna sit there and act like she was inaugurated last week, giggle like a schoolgirl and scold Donald like an amused abuela. The moderators will help her, call Trump a Nazi, and want to know why he hasn't committed suicide in penance.
She's gonna sit there and act like she was inaugurated last week, giggle like a schoolgirl and scold Donald like an amused abuela. The moderators will help her, call Trump a Nazi, and want to know why he hasn't committed suicide in penance.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:47 PM (g6yUI)
411
James O'Keefe: WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance.
And today's the day that all their secrets got too close to the surface.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM
~~~~~
O'Keefe suggests in his tweet that FOX was perhaps afraid of DOJ reprisal or retaliation.
Also just heard on FBN that the U.S. put pressure on Ecuador to yank Assange's internet access, ostensibly because the info he was putting out was interfering with our election.
Yeah, right.
Seems clear to me that Hillary has the full force of the U.S. government running interference for her.
I have no words.
And today's the day that all their secrets got too close to the surface.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:21 PM
~~~~~
O'Keefe suggests in his tweet that FOX was perhaps afraid of DOJ reprisal or retaliation.
Also just heard on FBN that the U.S. put pressure on Ecuador to yank Assange's internet access, ostensibly because the info he was putting out was interfering with our election.
Yeah, right.
Seems clear to me that Hillary has the full force of the U.S. government running interference for her.
I have no words.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 05:47 PM (eM2Uz)
412
All True,
Fact remains Trump is a shifty candidate made shittier by MSM tinkering. Even with 100% GOP onboard he's lost the middle.
Start thinking about how to live under this tyrant and how to fight it. When I get the time I'm going to write about it.
Fact remains Trump is a shifty candidate made shittier by MSM tinkering. Even with 100% GOP onboard he's lost the middle.
Start thinking about how to live under this tyrant and how to fight it. When I get the time I'm going to write about it.
Posted by: tsrblke at October 17, 2016 05:47 PM (a8eFL)
413
She's no more of an idealist than Stalin was.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:47 PM (g6yUI)
414
It was "deemed" passed and then it was tagged onto a budget bill where only a simple majority was needed for passage.
How quickly we forget.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:33 PM (9P3OG)
No the "deeming" was a trial balloon thrown up by the House dems who didn't want to vote on the exact language of the Senate bill - in the final vote - which they had to vote on exactly because Scott Whatshisface won the Senate seat in massachusetts and effectively killed any chance the Senate had to amend their crap bill (which was never intended to be the final bill). The House finally gave up on that because it was just too ridiculous ... though they probably could have done it, anyway.
How quickly we forget.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2016 05:33 PM (9P3OG)
No the "deeming" was a trial balloon thrown up by the House dems who didn't want to vote on the exact language of the Senate bill - in the final vote - which they had to vote on exactly because Scott Whatshisface won the Senate seat in massachusetts and effectively killed any chance the Senate had to amend their crap bill (which was never intended to be the final bill). The House finally gave up on that because it was just too ridiculous ... though they probably could have done it, anyway.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 17, 2016 05:47 PM (zc3Db)
415
Maritime I think it's fairly likely the 1st "debate" strategy was very calculated, Trump's sole objective was not to appear anything like the absurd caricature the press and Dems (and some of ace's old Twitter friends) created. I don't mean blunt and NYC - that's how/who he is - but the unstable, impulsive, crackpot. Trump hinted as much when asked almost this question at the NH townhall 2 weeks ago. Conway, sensibly enough, decided it was a priority to debunk the most outlandish myth first.
I think it was strategy far more than prep/lack of prep.
I think it was strategy far more than prep/lack of prep.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:48 PM (QDnY+)
416
so, anyone ever encounter vulgarity outside of ny?
Trump had nothing on LBJ.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:40 PM (g6yUI)
LBJ makes Trump look like Miss Manners. As mentioned earlier today, he used to force his subordinates to brief him while he sat on the pot, with the door open. Nice.
Trump had nothing on LBJ.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2016 05:40 PM (g6yUI)
LBJ makes Trump look like Miss Manners. As mentioned earlier today, he used to force his subordinates to brief him while he sat on the pot, with the door open. Nice.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2016 05:48 PM (SRKgf)
417
Maybe a Hillary presidency will be what it takes to finally wake American men the hell up. These young men in their 20's and 30's living with their parents or in apartments working part time jobs and playing x-box or playstation all day have opted out of traditional manhood. Dating apps provide enough sexually willing partners to keep them from feeling the need to marry and have kids. But with Hillary they will get the worst of mom and the worst kind of wife. Where Obama could get away with being an ass by posing as a detached intellectual, Hillary will always come across as shrill, batty, Harpy who wants to control everyone and kill all fun.
Posted by: IanDeal at October 17, 2016 05:48 PM (teGBX)
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"Doin' right has got no end." -- Captain Redlegs Terrell.
But in the main, the FAB has her moral compass set to Disinegrate. The way she treats her security forces is exactly how she will treat us.
With contempt. As bugs, to be stepped on when we get in her way.
And we are ALREADY in her way.
But in the main, the FAB has her moral compass set to Disinegrate. The way she treats her security forces is exactly how she will treat us.
With contempt. As bugs, to be stepped on when we get in her way.
And we are ALREADY in her way.
Posted by: GnuBreed, mishin' impossible at October 17, 2016 05:49 PM (gyKtp)
419
Honestly, had Trump prepared for his 1st debate like he did the 2nd, he would have had his boot on Hillary's neck.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:42 PM (6w7Vd)
I doubt LIVs, if they bothered watching, even remember the first debate.
Number three is the one they might retain.
Posted by: tubal
I think it sets a tone that people remember. And Trump seemed out of his depth.
I definitely remember being pissed at Trump and remembering why there were aspects about him I hated. It was clear he was winging the whole thing and was too lazy to do the homework.
All he had to do was pivot to some talking points about immigration, refugees, trade and talk about the Clinton Foundation and ignored stupid nonsense like Hillary talking about the unpaid architect for one of his buildings.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:42 PM (6w7Vd)
I doubt LIVs, if they bothered watching, even remember the first debate.
Number three is the one they might retain.
Posted by: tubal
I think it sets a tone that people remember. And Trump seemed out of his depth.
I definitely remember being pissed at Trump and remembering why there were aspects about him I hated. It was clear he was winging the whole thing and was too lazy to do the homework.
All he had to do was pivot to some talking points about immigration, refugees, trade and talk about the Clinton Foundation and ignored stupid nonsense like Hillary talking about the unpaid architect for one of his buildings.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:49 PM (6w7Vd)
420
Grabo, ergo sum.
Posted by: DJT at October 17, 2016 05:49 PM (2z74n)
421
Reading the comments at Zerohedge again, turns out aliens are demons from hell, this is why an astronaut wanted to discuss zero point energy creation with Podesta as discussed in the wikileaks drop.
Ummm....
Ummm....
Posted by: Max Power at October 17, 2016 05:49 PM (q177U)
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415 Maritime I think it's fairly likely the 1st "debate" strategy was very calculated, Trump's sole objective was not to appear anything like the absurd caricature the press and Dems (and some of ace's old Twitter friends) created. I don't mean blunt and NYC - that's how/who he is - but the unstable, impulsive, crackpot. Trump hinted as much when asked almost this question at the NH townhall 2 weeks ago. Conway, sensibly enough, decided it was a priority to debunk the most outlandish myth first.
I think it was strategy far more than prep/lack of prep.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:48 PM (QDnY+)
That was my take too. Hillary threw some hanging curve balls, but Trump was working the count.
I think it was strategy far more than prep/lack of prep.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:48 PM (QDnY+)
That was my take too. Hillary threw some hanging curve balls, but Trump was working the count.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2016 05:49 PM (SRKgf)
423
Ace, how would you demonstrate that you've joined the Democrats? What would you do to display that?
What would it mean in terms of how you conduct yourself or run this blog?
What would it mean in terms of how you conduct yourself or run this blog?
Posted by: Kensington at October 17, 2016 05:49 PM (7Kbxu)
424
Couldn't be more amused at Beth Moore and her evangelicals who once upon a time had abortion as their red-line, now ignoring hillary's fealty to PP bc Trump talked dirty.
Posted by: ever at October 17, 2016 05:49 PM (kronK)
425
Or is it all about feelz, ickiness, aesthetics, fearing the disapproval of dumb NPR-level acquaintances? "Someone who cares about people like me" level idiocy?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:40 PM (QDnY+)
No, it's serious substantive things.
1) First off, he doesn't look presidential. Which as we all know, its of utmost importance.
2) Second off, he rapes women. Which is not always a disqualifier but, you know, see #1.
3) The media says he's a bad man. And we don't like bad men, especially if they don't look presidential AND they rape women.
So there.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:40 PM (QDnY+)
No, it's serious substantive things.
1) First off, he doesn't look presidential. Which as we all know, its of utmost importance.
2) Second off, he rapes women. Which is not always a disqualifier but, you know, see #1.
3) The media says he's a bad man. And we don't like bad men, especially if they don't look presidential AND they rape women.
So there.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 05:49 PM (cJrMO)
426
Said beginning of this or last thread James better watch out if this makes traction, but nobody shows it nobody sees it.
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 05:50 PM (sWbjH)
427
@416: "LBJ makes Trump look like Miss Manners. As mentioned earlier today, he
used to force his subordinates to brief him while he sat on the pot,
with the door open."
That was less about manners than about demonstrating power. Though LBJ was also crude as a motherfucker.
used to force his subordinates to brief him while he sat on the pot,
with the door open."
That was less about manners than about demonstrating power. Though LBJ was also crude as a motherfucker.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at October 17, 2016 05:50 PM (rznWS)
428
Supposing that just means that the Hildebeast is
scared and that the election will not be that easily "fixed" -- that she
will actually need a turn-out to win.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 05:45 PM
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I fear it is just the opposite. The government is actively helping her by preventing any more of her corruption from being exposed by O'Keefe or Assange.
scared and that the election will not be that easily "fixed" -- that she
will actually need a turn-out to win.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 05:45 PM
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I fear it is just the opposite. The government is actively helping her by preventing any more of her corruption from being exposed by O'Keefe or Assange.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 05:50 PM (eM2Uz)
429
I recently read the complete transcript of the Carter-Reagan debate (there was only one). What jumps out at you is that, while the media certainly hated Reagan's guts (I was there and I well remember) the debate moderators were, to a person - including a young Baba Wawa, unscrupulously fair, balanced and professional. Substantive questions, probing follow-ups and nary a "gotcha question" in the entire debate. Remarkably well done by all.
When did it all go so very wrong? I'm now tempted to do a forensic re-reading of all the presidential debate transcripts since then. Might make for a fascinating essay I'll write but no one will read.
When did it all go so very wrong? I'm now tempted to do a forensic re-reading of all the presidential debate transcripts since then. Might make for a fascinating essay I'll write but no one will read.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 17, 2016 05:50 PM (WlGX+)
430
404 Ah, now 4 burritos later, where were we?
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 05:45 PM (sWbjH)
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That you're about to pull a Wikileaks and release a yuuuuge dump?
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 05:45 PM (sWbjH)
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That you're about to pull a Wikileaks and release a yuuuuge dump?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 17, 2016 05:50 PM (kTF2Z)
431
Couldn't be more amused at Beth Moore and her evangelicals who once upon a time had abortion as their red-line, now ignoring hillary's fealty to PP bc Trump talked dirty.
Posted by: ever at October 17, 2016 05:49 PM (kronK)
Really?
Posted by: ever at October 17, 2016 05:49 PM (kronK)
Really?
Posted by: tubal at October 17, 2016 05:51 PM (d6TTt)
432
The Enfuckening continues apace.
Posted by: Gem at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (uaHyk)
433
You don't go after Wikileaks, and O'Keefe if you think the election is in the bag.
Something has them scared.
Something has them scared.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (J+eG2)
434
412 All True,
Fact remains Trump is a shifty candidate made shittier by MSM tinkering. Even with 100% GOP onboard he's lost the middle.
Start thinking about how to live under this tyrant and how to fight it. When I get the time I'm going to write about it.
Posted by: tsrblke at October 17, 2016 05:47 PM (a8eFL)
I will once again reassert that I truly believe there is no "middle."
Elections are a turnout game. Who can get their voters more worked up to turn out to defeat "the other guy."
Fact remains Trump is a shifty candidate made shittier by MSM tinkering. Even with 100% GOP onboard he's lost the middle.
Start thinking about how to live under this tyrant and how to fight it. When I get the time I'm going to write about it.
Posted by: tsrblke at October 17, 2016 05:47 PM (a8eFL)
I will once again reassert that I truly believe there is no "middle."
Elections are a turnout game. Who can get their voters more worked up to turn out to defeat "the other guy."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (cJrMO)
435
Eric Hoffer wrote a pretty dang good book called "The True Believer" ("Thoughts On The Nature Of Mass Movement") that was published in 1951 on this very trait the post is about. If anyone hasn't read it, it's short: give it a whirl.
Posted by: William at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (nKbYs)
436
This actually makes a lot of sense. It's also scary as fuck.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (0mRoj)
437
424 Couldn't be more amused at Beth Moore and her evangelicals who once upon a time had abortion as their red-line, now ignoring hillary's fealty to PP bc Trump talked dirty.
Posted by: ever
___________
Ahem. Don't forget about me.
Posted by: ever
___________
Ahem. Don't forget about me.
Posted by: Bart Stupak at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (dYw0K)
438
If there was a "middle," you'd expect to see large number of ticket splitters. Which, of course, we don't. The overwhelming majority of people vote straight party line.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (cJrMO)
439
Had Trump done "this" I would be on the internet say he should have done "that. If Trump had done "that" I would be on the internet saying Trump should have done "something else".
Not True?
Not True?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (d76uN)
440
418 "Doin' right has got no end." -- Captain Redlegs Terrell.
It ended for the Captain about an hour later.
Mood music!
https://youtu.be/phlKngDrh6o
It ended for the Captain about an hour later.
Mood music!
https://youtu.be/phlKngDrh6o
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 17, 2016 05:53 PM (NtlIK)
441
I fear it is just the opposite. The government is actively helping her by preventing any more of her corruption from being exposed by O'Keefe or Assange.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 05:50 PM (eM2Uz)
You're probably right. It's going to be rigged all the from here to China. So much for that idea. Now I'm back to despair.
I fear it is just the opposite. The government is actively helping her by preventing any more of her corruption from being exposed by O'Keefe or Assange.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 05:50 PM (eM2Uz)
You're probably right. It's going to be rigged all the from here to China. So much for that idea. Now I'm back to despair.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 05:53 PM (CFc5L)
442
Trump has lost the "middle"? Huh?
The "middle" supports mass lawless migration with a heapin' helping of race-baiting and racism?
The "middle" loves O-care, craves "green" energy, unvetted ME refugee admissions, the Iran deal, and Common Core?
.Oh - you mean he's "icky". To soccer moms, and suburban Christian ballet moms in TX.
I question the term "middle" for this cohort.
The "middle" supports mass lawless migration with a heapin' helping of race-baiting and racism?
The "middle" loves O-care, craves "green" energy, unvetted ME refugee admissions, the Iran deal, and Common Core?
.Oh - you mean he's "icky". To soccer moms, and suburban Christian ballet moms in TX.
I question the term "middle" for this cohort.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 05:53 PM (QDnY+)
443
LBJ said in this world there elephants and pissants, and I'm the only elephant.
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 05:53 PM (sWbjH)
444
Something has them scared.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (J+eG2)
My opinion is their internals on minority turnout, as opposed to Obama's, and her ick factor.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (J+eG2)
My opinion is their internals on minority turnout, as opposed to Obama's, and her ick factor.
Posted by: tubal at October 17, 2016 05:53 PM (d6TTt)
445
Obama thinks he's better than the average American
while
Hillary think the average American is irredeemably deplorable.
while
Hillary think the average American is irredeemably deplorable.
Posted by: Votermom the deplorable @vm on gab at October 17, 2016 05:54 PM (Om16U)
446
HAG RULES!....with notable assistance from Katshit, Ryan, and a lot of other whores who, really, are 'good' girls.
Posted by: !Deplorable Lives Matter! at October 17, 2016 05:54 PM (oBuXO)
447
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at October 17, 2016 05:50 PM (WlGX+)
We "went wrong" when one party decided that the American people couldn't be trusted to make their own decisions and must be guided like the delicate, stupid sheep that they are.
We "went wrong" when one party decided that the American people couldn't be trusted to make their own decisions and must be guided like the delicate, stupid sheep that they are.
Posted by: Joe, living mobile at October 17, 2016 05:54 PM (UrlD7)
448
I cannot think of any comedian that kicked people out for booing and heckling. It is part of the job.
Yet Amy Schumer and her totalitarian feminist beliefs did that.
What a fucking joke.
Yet Amy Schumer and her totalitarian feminist beliefs did that.
What a fucking joke.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 05:54 PM (ko0V2)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at October 17, 2016 05:54 PM (U0lQa)
450
That was my take too. Hillary threw some hanging curve balls, but Trump was working the count.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
I'm pretty firm on the idea that the Trump campaign flies by the seat of its pants every single day.
I will never be so happy to be wrong in my life if he pulls it off and there really was a master plan.
I just have this bad feeling that when the smoke clears, stupid campaign mistakes like ORCA will be the least of our worries.
The one parallel though is Brexit where the "leave" side was a ragtag group against a professional army and they won through just a Silent majority and grassroots.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
I'm pretty firm on the idea that the Trump campaign flies by the seat of its pants every single day.
I will never be so happy to be wrong in my life if he pulls it off and there really was a master plan.
I just have this bad feeling that when the smoke clears, stupid campaign mistakes like ORCA will be the least of our worries.
The one parallel though is Brexit where the "leave" side was a ragtag group against a professional army and they won through just a Silent majority and grassroots.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:54 PM (6w7Vd)
451
That was less about manners than about demonstrating power. Though LBJ was also crude as a motherfucker.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at October 17, 2016 05:50 PM (rznWS)
Of course it was. But it was a crude thing to do, not just in the fact but also in the intent. There's no need to gratuitously demonstrate power when you've got that much of it.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at October 17, 2016 05:50 PM (rznWS)
Of course it was. But it was a crude thing to do, not just in the fact but also in the intent. There's no need to gratuitously demonstrate power when you've got that much of it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2016 05:55 PM (SRKgf)
452
"Or emboldened"
No, you don't start risking engaging the citizenry if you don't feel you need to.
No, you don't start risking engaging the citizenry if you don't feel you need to.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 05:55 PM (J+eG2)
453
433 You don't go after Wikileaks, and O'Keefe if you think the election is in the bag.
Something has them scared.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
Well, you do when Power and Control are your things. It doesn't matter if the election is in the bag or not. Its just the heady feeling of crushing others.
Something has them scared.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
Well, you do when Power and Control are your things. It doesn't matter if the election is in the bag or not. Its just the heady feeling of crushing others.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 17, 2016 05:55 PM (NtlIK)
454
Couldn't be more amused at Beth Moore and her evangelicals who once upon a time had abortion as their red-line, now ignoring hillary's fealty to PP bc Trump talked dirty.
Really?
Posted by: tubal
http://tinyurl.com/hu9nkpv
Such a wonderfully -- elastic -- type of faith.
Couldn't be more amused at Beth Moore and her evangelicals who once upon a time had abortion as their red-line, now ignoring hillary's fealty to PP bc Trump talked dirty.
Really?
Posted by: tubal
http://tinyurl.com/hu9nkpv
Such a wonderfully -- elastic -- type of faith.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 05:55 PM (kdS6q)
455
I will once again reassert that I truly believe there is no "middle."
Elections are a turnout game. Who can get their voters more worked up to turn out to defeat "the other guy."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
I'm pretty close to that belief as well.
Elections are a turnout game. Who can get their voters more worked up to turn out to defeat "the other guy."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
I'm pretty close to that belief as well.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 05:55 PM (6w7Vd)
456
444 Something has them scared.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (J+eG2)
My opinion is their internals on minority turnout, as opposed to Obama's, and her ick factor.
Posted by: tubal
_________
This is why I speculated earlier today that there will be an outbreak of black churches being torched within the next week or so.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (J+eG2)
My opinion is their internals on minority turnout, as opposed to Obama's, and her ick factor.
Posted by: tubal
_________
This is why I speculated earlier today that there will be an outbreak of black churches being torched within the next week or so.
Posted by: Furious George at October 17, 2016 05:56 PM (dYw0K)
457
Or emboldened
Fine. I didn't think we'd vote our way out of this. Spoiler Alert ... they won't vote me into The Camps either.
Let the games begin.
Fine. I didn't think we'd vote our way out of this. Spoiler Alert ... they won't vote me into The Camps either.
Let the games begin.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 17, 2016 05:56 PM (m3RIE)
458
You don't go after Wikileaks, and O'Keefe if you think the election is in the bag.
Something has them scared.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
****
No, not at all. They are the enemy and they are being treated the way they treat anyone they see as such. They cannot turn their cheek. It's not their nature.
Something has them scared.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
****
No, not at all. They are the enemy and they are being treated the way they treat anyone they see as such. They cannot turn their cheek. It's not their nature.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at October 17, 2016 05:56 PM (+aCe4)
459
If Wikileaks was releasing RNC stuff, the government would be all like "our hands are tied".
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 17, 2016 05:57 PM (BS8yt)
460
443 I read a biography of LBJ around 30 years ago, that was the only thing I still remember
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 05:57 PM (sWbjH)
Posted by: Minuteman at October 17, 2016 05:57 PM (15j7g)
462
454
Couldn't be more amused at Beth Moore and her evangelicals who once upon a time had abortion as their red-line, now ignoring hillary's fealty to PP bc Trump talked dirty.
Really?
Posted by: tubal
http://tinyurl.com/hu9nkpv
Such a wonderfully -- elastic -- type of faith.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 05:55 PM (kdS6q)
Cunnus vincit omnia.
Couldn't be more amused at Beth Moore and her evangelicals who once upon a time had abortion as their red-line, now ignoring hillary's fealty to PP bc Trump talked dirty.
Really?
Posted by: tubal
http://tinyurl.com/hu9nkpv
Such a wonderfully -- elastic -- type of faith.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 17, 2016 05:55 PM (kdS6q)
Cunnus vincit omnia.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 17, 2016 05:57 PM (0mRoj)
463
Problem with Hillary and her type is no one has slapped the shit out of her in years.
Attitude adjustment, it works everytime.
Attitude adjustment, it works everytime.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2016 05:57 PM (ej1L0)
464
463 Problem with Hillary and her type is no one has slapped the shit out of her in years.
Attitude adjustment, it works everytime.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2016 05:57 PM (ej1L0)
I have shomething to shay about thish.
Attitude adjustment, it works everytime.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2016 05:57 PM (ej1L0)
I have shomething to shay about thish.
Posted by: Sean Connery at October 17, 2016 05:58 PM (0mRoj)
465
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 05:52 PM (cJrMO)
OK fine, his GOTV sucks donkey Dick too. Either way we fucked up and handed it a psychopath. Make no mistake, HRC is a psychopath, unlike trump who's just arrogant.
OK fine, his GOTV sucks donkey Dick too. Either way we fucked up and handed it a psychopath. Make no mistake, HRC is a psychopath, unlike trump who's just arrogant.
Posted by: tsrblke at October 17, 2016 05:59 PM (a8eFL)
466
Let me give you an example of engaging the citizenry.
My father, an apolitical life long Democrat.
A reflexive puller of the (D) lever.
Absolutely enraged, and engaged in this election.
My father, an apolitical life long Democrat.
A reflexive puller of the (D) lever.
Absolutely enraged, and engaged in this election.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 05:59 PM (J+eG2)
467
no, going after wikileaks is high stakes.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 06:00 PM (cPsPa)
468
Okay. The Beth Moore thing is - depressing.
Thought better of her, before that.
Makes me wonder, again, about the "modern" Christian faith.
Thought better of her, before that.
Makes me wonder, again, about the "modern" Christian faith.
Posted by: tubal at October 17, 2016 06:00 PM (d6TTt)
469
Is wikileaks done now that Assange has been cut off the internet, or is there still more to come?
Posted by: josephistan at October 17, 2016 06:00 PM (7qAYi)
470
Yeah, wish I could join VIA and others in seeing this as fear, but odds are it's just their nature.
Though I do think any experienced pollster/strategist would agree this cycle has the potential for real surprises, vs. most we have seen for many years.
Pretty sure the country is gone, though. If this isn't - finally - the backlash election, then such a thing becomes almost academic after this.
Though I do think any experienced pollster/strategist would agree this cycle has the potential for real surprises, vs. most we have seen for many years.
Pretty sure the country is gone, though. If this isn't - finally - the backlash election, then such a thing becomes almost academic after this.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2016 06:00 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Max Power at October 17, 2016 06:00 PM (q177U)
472
You really shine a light on WikiLeaks to the point it becomes a global story with what they are doing right now.
The smarter play would have been just see if the media can keep ignoring it because people are too lazy to read.
The smarter play would have been just see if the media can keep ignoring it because people are too lazy to read.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 06:01 PM (6w7Vd)
473
417 Maybe a Hillary presidency will be what it takes to finally wake American men the hell up. These young men in their 20's and 30's living with their parents or in apartments working part time jobs and playing x-box or playstation all day have opted out of traditional manhood. Dating apps provide enough sexually willing partners to keep them from feeling the need to marry and have kids. But with Hillary they will get the worst of mom and the worst kind of wife. Where Obama could get away with being an ass by posing as a detached intellectual, Hillary will always come across as shrill, batty, Harpy who wants to control everyone and kill all fun.
Posted by: IanDeal at October 17, 2016 05:48 PM (teGBX)
Nice blaming men for the collective psychotic actions and beliefs of feminists and our gynocentric Culture.
Also young people have every right to be piased off at the lazy bloomer generation for voting for the same people over an over again selling the country's future down the river along with their own children's and grandchildren's.
Give me a break with the it is the fault of young people and men's fault.
Posted by: IanDeal at October 17, 2016 05:48 PM (teGBX)
Nice blaming men for the collective psychotic actions and beliefs of feminists and our gynocentric Culture.
Also young people have every right to be piased off at the lazy bloomer generation for voting for the same people over an over again selling the country's future down the river along with their own children's and grandchildren's.
Give me a break with the it is the fault of young people and men's fault.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 06:01 PM (ko0V2)
474
OK fine, his GOTV sucks donkey Dick too. Either way we fucked up and handed it a psychopath. Make no mistake, HRC is a psychopath, unlike trump who's just arrogant.
Posted by: tsrblke at October 17, 2016 05:59 PM (a8eFL)
Yeah, I'm not saying I think trump is going to win -- I mean part of the reason I don't really give a shit about this election is that I'm pretty convinced that D's have the numbers on their side, have the media (who can goose turn out better than any GOTV effort), and have pop culture.
So I don't really expect a R, much less a conservative, to ever win the WH again. Or at least not while things stand as they are. Maybe some massive generational shift in politics among millennials or second or third generation hispanics or something could come along, but barring that...
eh.
Posted by: tsrblke at October 17, 2016 05:59 PM (a8eFL)
Yeah, I'm not saying I think trump is going to win -- I mean part of the reason I don't really give a shit about this election is that I'm pretty convinced that D's have the numbers on their side, have the media (who can goose turn out better than any GOTV effort), and have pop culture.
So I don't really expect a R, much less a conservative, to ever win the WH again. Or at least not while things stand as they are. Maybe some massive generational shift in politics among millennials or second or third generation hispanics or something could come along, but barring that...
eh.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 17, 2016 06:01 PM (cJrMO)
475
You're probably right. It's going to be rigged all the from here to China. So much for that idea. Now I'm back to despair.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 05:53 PM
~~~~~
On the bright side:
That they're going to all this trouble now (after all these years!) tells me that there must be some truly devastating stuff out there.
There is still some hope that Assange will be able to get his info out, and O'Keefe's is all over the conservative net. We just need something so outrageous that the media cannot ignore or embargo. And Trump has got to stop talking generically about "rigged elections" and start talking about actual films and files again.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 05:53 PM
~~~~~
On the bright side:
That they're going to all this trouble now (after all these years!) tells me that there must be some truly devastating stuff out there.
There is still some hope that Assange will be able to get his info out, and O'Keefe's is all over the conservative net. We just need something so outrageous that the media cannot ignore or embargo. And Trump has got to stop talking generically about "rigged elections" and start talking about actual films and files again.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 06:02 PM (eM2Uz)
476
going after wikileaks is not how you get the johnson and stein voters to come over to you.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 06:02 PM (cPsPa)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 17, 2016 06:02 PM (J+eG2)
478
Fapo ergo sum
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2016 06:02 PM (JO9+V)
479
The Dems real problem : How do you keep her alive for 4 years when she wins?
Posted by: garrett at October 17, 2016 06:03 PM (Lsfkw)
480
The progressives, and left in general, are unhinged maniacs. They will attack, attack, attack.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 17, 2016 06:03 PM (BS8yt)
481
Navy SEAL (I forget his name, sadly) just brought up the O'Keefe video on Charles Payne's show on FBN. (Thank you!!!) And he made a comment about the media refusing to show it.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 06:03 PM (eM2Uz)
482
In the first debate Trump's marching orders from Kellyanne were to look Presidential, which meant to be calm and not wail on Hillary. At the end of the debate, Hillary sandbagged him with Miss Universe.
People say he didn't do his homework, and there may be truth to that. But I also think that Trump didn't want to get lost in detail. If he gave detail on something complicated and fucked up like Aleppo, the moderators and Hillary would pounce. It's not a level playing field.
This of course changed with the second debate, when Trump went medieval on her ass.
People say he didn't do his homework, and there may be truth to that. But I also think that Trump didn't want to get lost in detail. If he gave detail on something complicated and fucked up like Aleppo, the moderators and Hillary would pounce. It's not a level playing field.
This of course changed with the second debate, when Trump went medieval on her ass.
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 06:04 PM (r1fLd)
483
475: He has been if you're keeping up with his social media feeds. All of today he's been going on about the quid-pro-quo.
Branding it as "rigged" is perfect. This is what Scott Adams means about persuasion. The LIVs won't be convinced by documents, but by simple repitition.
Branding it as "rigged" is perfect. This is what Scott Adams means about persuasion. The LIVs won't be convinced by documents, but by simple repitition.
Posted by: GeoSTI at October 17, 2016 06:05 PM (0e/Wy)
484
This election is when all of that Indiginous cock sucking that Obama has been doing for the last 8 years is going to pay off.
There will be buses filled with Native American Democrat Voters criss-crossing the plains to Vote Hillary and Vote Again, for Hillary!
There will be buses filled with Native American Democrat Voters criss-crossing the plains to Vote Hillary and Vote Again, for Hillary!
Posted by: garrett at October 17, 2016 06:06 PM (Lsfkw)
485
I read a biography of LBJ around 30 years ago, that was the only thing I still remember
Hey hey LBJ
How many kids did you kill today.
I read a biography of LBJ around 30 years ago, that was the only thing I still remember
Hey hey LBJ
How many kids did you kill today.
Posted by: 1967, Summer of stuff at October 17, 2016 06:06 PM (IqV8l)
486
Give the left the finger, and their goal becomes cutting off the hand with said finger and cramming it up one's butt.
Sociopaths.
Sociopaths.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at October 17, 2016 06:08 PM (uhftQ)
487
"The sorts of people who do this sort of thing -- the 180 degree full reverse in all beliefs, while maintaining a militant and dogmatic belief throughout the period of "evolution"...
...tend to get millions, er, "liquidated" in the process.
...tend to get millions, er, "liquidated" in the process.
Posted by: furious at October 17, 2016 06:09 PM (8lw4l)
488
In the first debate Trump's marching orders from Kellyanne were to look Presidential, which meant to be calm and not wail on Hillary. At the end of the debate, Hillary sandbagged him with Miss Universe.
People say he didn't do his homework, and there may be truth to that. But I also think that Trump didn't want to get lost in detail. If he gave detail on something complicated and fucked up like Aleppo, the moderators and Hillary would pounce. It's not a level playing field.
This of course changed with the second debate, when Trump went medieval on her ass.
Posted by: Ignoramus
The first 30 minutes he was solid, it was after that were had not rehearsed how to address issues that everyone saw coming. He didn't need to go scorched Earth, just sound more coherent.
Like for example the birther stuff, everyone saw that question coming, Trump just kept saying Sidney Blumenthals name over and over, and 99% of Americans have no idea who this guy is. An easy soundbyte should have been rehearsed detailing that she started the whole thing.
Same with the Iraq War, Trump just kept shouting "Sean Hannity!!" when he could have had a better answer to address his position.
People say he didn't do his homework, and there may be truth to that. But I also think that Trump didn't want to get lost in detail. If he gave detail on something complicated and fucked up like Aleppo, the moderators and Hillary would pounce. It's not a level playing field.
This of course changed with the second debate, when Trump went medieval on her ass.
Posted by: Ignoramus
The first 30 minutes he was solid, it was after that were had not rehearsed how to address issues that everyone saw coming. He didn't need to go scorched Earth, just sound more coherent.
Like for example the birther stuff, everyone saw that question coming, Trump just kept saying Sidney Blumenthals name over and over, and 99% of Americans have no idea who this guy is. An easy soundbyte should have been rehearsed detailing that she started the whole thing.
Same with the Iraq War, Trump just kept shouting "Sean Hannity!!" when he could have had a better answer to address his position.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 06:09 PM (6w7Vd)
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 17, 2016 06:10 PM (NWEal)
490
Dear Native Americans (esp in Arizona),
Ever hear of the Animas River? The EPA? Do you think it will be better under Hillary?
Ever hear of the Animas River? The EPA? Do you think it will be better under Hillary?
Posted by: OCBill at October 17, 2016 06:11 PM (df+Zi)
491
How do you know she's a witch?
Posted by: Sir Bedevere at October 17, 2016 05:04 PM (bzd8I)
Because she is made of wood.
https://youtu.be/_lu5_5Od7WY
Posted by: Sir Bedevere at October 17, 2016 05:04 PM (bzd8I)
Because she is made of wood.
https://youtu.be/_lu5_5Od7WY
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 17, 2016 06:11 PM (8iiMU)
492
"cut off the internet"
Assange has a phone. They'll have to cut power and shoot down the satellites, too.
Assange has a phone. They'll have to cut power and shoot down the satellites, too.
Posted by: furious at October 17, 2016 06:12 PM (8lw4l)
493
going after wikileaks is not how you get the johnson and stein voters to come over to you.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 06:02 PM (cPsPa)
Maybe their internals show that the Bernie voters ain't moving towards her and never will.So they made the decision to save the undecided vote.
going after wikileaks is not how you get the johnson and stein voters to come over to you.
Posted by: yankeefifth at October 17, 2016 06:02 PM (cPsPa)
Maybe their internals show that the Bernie voters ain't moving towards her and never will.So they made the decision to save the undecided vote.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 17, 2016 06:12 PM (lKyWE)
494
Groin! Groin.
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 17, 2016 06:13 PM (OkKDg)
495
I posted this the other day, but looks like they may have always been a little fearful of Trump.
He, Mrs. Clinton, and the campaign all agree that they will > need to seize on opportunities to paint Trump as extremist and recklessly impulsive. We're told that President Clinton, like Secretary Clinton and some others, think Trump could pose a real threat in battleground states that President Obama carried in 2008 and 2012 like Virginia and Ohio and he will be competitive in Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
He, Mrs. Clinton, and the campaign all agree that they will > need to seize on opportunities to paint Trump as extremist and recklessly impulsive. We're told that President Clinton, like Secretary Clinton and some others, think Trump could pose a real threat in battleground states that President Obama carried in 2008 and 2012 like Virginia and Ohio and he will be competitive in Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
Posted by: spypeach at October 17, 2016 06:14 PM (nyYhO)
496
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 06:09 PM (6w7Vd)
I don't know. Who else would have been better for this coordinated onslaught from the left-tard media and Medusa? Maybe Cruz - he would have had his facts straight, but does he have the inner stamina and ego that this needed? Who can guess.
I don't know. Who else would have been better for this coordinated onslaught from the left-tard media and Medusa? Maybe Cruz - he would have had his facts straight, but does he have the inner stamina and ego that this needed? Who can guess.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 06:14 PM (CFc5L)
497
So where the F are all of the Trump Ads with all of these bombshell revelations from the emails and the new FBI documents. He should be blanketing the airwaves with ads. I swear to god, no one has a fucking clue on the Republican side.
Posted by: Stupified at October 17, 2016 06:15 PM (1XWda)
Posted by: spypeach at October 17, 2016 06:15 PM (nyYhO)
499
High Times is reporting that LBJ was sexually assaulted by Trump in 1968 during the Siege of Khe Sanh.
Zombie Comrade General Vo Nguyen Giap has no comment.
Zombie Comrade General Vo Nguyen Giap has no comment.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2016 06:15 PM (ej1L0)
500
Dear Native Americans (esp in Arizona),
Ever hear of the Animas River? The EPA? Do you think it will be better under Hillary?
Posted by: OCBill at October 17, 2016 06:11 PM (df+Zi)
Dear White man, it's not about a river, it's about F. U. .
Ever hear of the Animas River? The EPA? Do you think it will be better under Hillary?
Posted by: OCBill at October 17, 2016 06:11 PM (df+Zi)
Dear White man, it's not about a river, it's about F. U. .
Posted by: Um Ho Yep at October 17, 2016 06:16 PM (NWEal)
501
Call a doctor, quick! A witch doctor, of course!
Posted by: Eromero at October 17, 2016 06:16 PM (zLDYs)
502
I don't know. Who else would have been better for this coordinated onslaught from the left-tard media and Medusa? Maybe Cruz - he would have had his facts straight, but does he have the inner stamina and ego that this needed? Who can guess.
Posted by: washrivergal
I'm behind Trump 100%, but if I'm honest, I can think of several candidates that would have run a better all around campaign and we'd probably be looking at a pretty easy win.
Ted cruz was pretty terrible though in my opinion, he would have won the debate but not won over a single new voter.
Posted by: washrivergal
I'm behind Trump 100%, but if I'm honest, I can think of several candidates that would have run a better all around campaign and we'd probably be looking at a pretty easy win.
Ted cruz was pretty terrible though in my opinion, he would have won the debate but not won over a single new voter.
Posted by: Maritime at October 17, 2016 06:17 PM (6w7Vd)
503
she's neither. whatever "messianic" altruistic qualities she had are long gone. she's self-serving and vengeful, greedy and vindictive.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 17, 2016 06:18 PM (WTSFk)
504
If Cruz would -man up- he could secure more than a few votes for Trump.
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 17, 2016 06:18 PM (NWEal)
505
I think the first primaries in 2020 should be in the battleground states. Fuck Iowa.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2016 06:19 PM (UVPUt)
506
I'm behind Trump 100%, but if I'm honest, I can think of several candidates that would have run a better all around campaign and we'd probably be looking at a pretty easy win.
It was never going to be easy,Clinton had a huge electoral map advantage right out of the gate.
I'm behind Trump 100%, but if I'm honest, I can think of several candidates that would have run a better all around campaign and we'd probably be looking at a pretty easy win.
It was never going to be easy,Clinton had a huge electoral map advantage right out of the gate.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 17, 2016 06:20 PM (lKyWE)
507
He has been if you're keeping up with his social media feeds. All of today he's been going on about the quid-pro-quo.
Posted by: GeoSTI at October 17, 2016 06:05 PM
~~~~~~
Well that's good! I've been all over Wikileaks O'Keefe and haven't kept up with DJT.
Posted by: GeoSTI at October 17, 2016 06:05 PM
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Well that's good! I've been all over Wikileaks O'Keefe and haven't kept up with DJT.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 06:20 PM (eM2Uz)
508
I don't know. Who else would have been better for
this coordinated onslaught from the left-tard media and Medusa? Maybe
Cruz - he would have had his facts straight, but does he have the inner
stamina and ego that this needed? Who can guess.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 06:14 PM (CFc5L)
None of them had a strategy to fight Hillary's machine, but Trump has somehow defied the slings and arrows...she should be 50 points up, she is barely 5 points up in weighted polling. Not sure what else she could throw at him but the rape allegations certainly are not sticking, no matter how frequently they are mentioned by the MSM.
this coordinated onslaught from the left-tard media and Medusa? Maybe
Cruz - he would have had his facts straight, but does he have the inner
stamina and ego that this needed? Who can guess.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 06:14 PM (CFc5L)
None of them had a strategy to fight Hillary's machine, but Trump has somehow defied the slings and arrows...she should be 50 points up, she is barely 5 points up in weighted polling. Not sure what else she could throw at him but the rape allegations certainly are not sticking, no matter how frequently they are mentioned by the MSM.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at October 17, 2016 06:20 PM (7N6ox)
509
Ah, now 4 burritos later, where were we?
Posted by: Skip
Hey meester, you should have had the torillas. Meester.
Posted by: Skip
Hey meester, you should have had the torillas. Meester.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at October 17, 2016 06:21 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: wooga at October 17, 2016 06:21 PM (QlC+L)
511
I think the first primaries in 2020 should be in the battleground states. Fuck Iowa.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2016 06:19 PM (UVPUt)
I appreciate your positive outlook that there will be primaries in 2020. You must believe Trump is a winner.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2016 06:19 PM (UVPUt)
I appreciate your positive outlook that there will be primaries in 2020. You must believe Trump is a winner.
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 17, 2016 06:21 PM (NWEal)
512
>>>High Times is reporting that LBJ was sexually assaulted by Trump in 1968 during the Siege of Khe Sanh.
Zombie Comrade General Vo Nguyen Giap has no comment.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2016 06:15 PM (ej1L0)
Sure I do. I told him to "mind the Giap."
Zombie Comrade General Vo Nguyen Giap has no comment.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2016 06:15 PM (ej1L0)
Sure I do. I told him to "mind the Giap."
Posted by: zombie General Vo Nguyen Giap at October 17, 2016 06:21 PM (9chpj)
513
Watching Fox, Brett Baier, voter suppression effort.
No wonder they are have dependency problems.
No wonder they are have dependency problems.
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 17, 2016 06:24 PM (NWEal)
514
Posted by: wooga at October 17, 2016 06:21 PM (QlC+L)
Listen, There is a group of voters whom are persuadable, but need to feel backed by society, and Trump failed that test.
Romney bless his heart failed on GOTV and fending off media attacks.
IF we survive to 2020, it's going to be weird.
Listen, There is a group of voters whom are persuadable, but need to feel backed by society, and Trump failed that test.
Romney bless his heart failed on GOTV and fending off media attacks.
IF we survive to 2020, it's going to be weird.
Posted by: tsrblke at October 17, 2016 06:25 PM (a8eFL)
515
Really think this post is so far off the mark it's not even on paper.
There mah have been, May have been an idealistic streak in Shrillary in her youth. Doubtful but possible.
But true idealism in the service of others does not use methods from "the dark side."
Her history of use of those types of methods goes way back.
She is in it for herself, period. Not one humble bone in her body.
Evil through and through.
And she is very pragmatic in achieving her goal.
Also, there has never been a human that walked the earth that didn't have an inherent need to believe in something.
Often times that belief is wrong but it's a belief nontheless.
There mah have been, May have been an idealistic streak in Shrillary in her youth. Doubtful but possible.
But true idealism in the service of others does not use methods from "the dark side."
Her history of use of those types of methods goes way back.
She is in it for herself, period. Not one humble bone in her body.
Evil through and through.
And she is very pragmatic in achieving her goal.
Also, there has never been a human that walked the earth that didn't have an inherent need to believe in something.
Often times that belief is wrong but it's a belief nontheless.
Posted by: teej at October 17, 2016 06:26 PM (uSkUN)
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 17, 2016 06:26 PM (NWEal)
517
So is cutting the internet for wikileaks Obama's vaunted cyber counter attack against Russia?
So is cutting the internet for wikileaks Obama's vaunted cyber counter attack against Russia?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 17, 2016 06:26 PM (lKyWE)
518
Not buying it. Doesn't matter anyway.
Nice post by Tusk - and thanks to Ace for prompting it and publishing it.
Leftists believe in telling people what to do and punishing those who don't do it. In short, they're fascists in the truest sense. I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
Nice post by Tusk - and thanks to Ace for prompting it and publishing it.
Leftists believe in telling people what to do and punishing those who don't do it. In short, they're fascists in the truest sense. I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 17, 2016 06:28 PM (Xa9M/)
519
Worried about Utah. Losing there because of Mitt "is a small hole, but very deep."
If the worst case happens -- Hillary winning because of a swing in Utah's six EVs -- what should the appropriate response be?
If the worst case happens -- Hillary winning because of a swing in Utah's six EVs -- what should the appropriate response be?
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 06:28 PM (r1fLd)
520
Anderson Cooper is interviewing Melania tonight...that will be interesting..
Posted by: IC at October 17, 2016 06:28 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 17, 2016 06:28 PM (NWEal)
522
So is cutting the internet for wikileaks Obama's vaunted cyber counter attack against Russia?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic
You expected cyber warfare
You would accept some hacking of important Russian data files
You get the internet cut off to the Ecuadorian embassy.
Misson Accomplished!! We saved Hillary!!
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic
You expected cyber warfare
You would accept some hacking of important Russian data files
You get the internet cut off to the Ecuadorian embassy.
Misson Accomplished!! We saved Hillary!!
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at October 17, 2016 06:29 PM (RFeQD)
523
Posted by: teej at October 17, 2016 06:26 PM (uSkUN)
Some part of her still wants to remake us in he desired image thought.
And a huge part wants to destroy the VRWC she sees everywhere.
Some part of her still wants to remake us in he desired image thought.
And a huge part wants to destroy the VRWC she sees everywhere.
Posted by: tsrblke at October 17, 2016 06:29 PM (a8eFL)
524
Donald Jr tearing it up here in Boulder
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 17, 2016 06:30 PM (Yeep4)
525
>>>So is cutting the internet for wikileaks Obama's vaunted cyber counter attack against Russia?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 17, 2016 06:26 PM (lKyWE)<<<
It's brilliant, but got a little uncomfortable when they asked me for my password to shut things down --
ihatemyjob1
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 17, 2016 06:26 PM (lKyWE)<<<
It's brilliant, but got a little uncomfortable when they asked me for my password to shut things down --
ihatemyjob1
Posted by: SCOAMF at October 17, 2016 06:30 PM (9chpj)
526
How for is the Ecuadorian embassy from the Russian embassy?
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 17, 2016 06:31 PM (NWEal)
527
Interesting theory, but I'm not buying it, not one bit.
Someone who saw herself as a vagina-messiah wouldn't have any reason to loot the nation with a money-laundering RICO outfit like CGI. She's in it for the power, and the loot. All of the crap she spews about making the world better and more just is nothing more than the performer's patter to get the votes she needs to sit on the Iron Throne.
A vagina-messiah wouldn't have to lie. In my experience, real messiahs don't lie.
Someone who saw herself as a vagina-messiah wouldn't have any reason to loot the nation with a money-laundering RICO outfit like CGI. She's in it for the power, and the loot. All of the crap she spews about making the world better and more just is nothing more than the performer's patter to get the votes she needs to sit on the Iron Throne.
A vagina-messiah wouldn't have to lie. In my experience, real messiahs don't lie.
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 17, 2016 06:31 PM (iIzG7)
528
473----Also young people have every right to be piased off at the lazy bloomer generation for voting for the same people over an over again selling the country's future down the river along with their own children's and grandchildren's.
Give me a break with the it is the fault of young people and men's fault.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 06:01 PM (ko0V2)
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By "bloomer" do you mean baby-boomer?
You do know that the baby-boomers were the ONLY generation to vote AGAINST Obama in both 2008 and 2012?
How did the younger people vote, eh?
(But, yeah, we CAN blame women as a group.)
Give me a break with the it is the fault of young people and men's fault.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 06:01 PM (ko0V2)
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By "bloomer" do you mean baby-boomer?
You do know that the baby-boomers were the ONLY generation to vote AGAINST Obama in both 2008 and 2012?
How did the younger people vote, eh?
(But, yeah, we CAN blame women as a group.)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2016 06:31 PM (Nox3c)
529
A vagina-messiah wouldn't have to lie. In my experience, real messiahs don't lie.
Posted by: Qoheleth
There has only been One.
Tough act to follow.
Posted by: Qoheleth
There has only been One.
Tough act to follow.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at October 17, 2016 06:32 PM (RFeQD)
530
In case you were worried ...the White house has announced that Patrick Kennedy will not be fired.
Ho hum.
Ho hum.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 06:32 PM (eM2Uz)
531
>>>How for is the Ecuadorian embassy from the Russian embassy?
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 17, 2016 06:31 PM (NWEal)<<<
That would never work here at the Peruvian embassy. We've got a protective coating on the string between the two tin cans that they'd never be able to cut.
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 17, 2016 06:31 PM (NWEal)<<<
That would never work here at the Peruvian embassy. We've got a protective coating on the string between the two tin cans that they'd never be able to cut.
Posted by: Peruvian Internet Security Service at October 17, 2016 06:33 PM (9chpj)
532
In case you were worried ...the White house has announced that Patrick Kennedy will not be fired.
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So, the FBIs own document uses the phrase quid pro quo and nothing happens. Lawless.
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So, the FBIs own document uses the phrase quid pro quo and nothing happens. Lawless.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 17, 2016 06:36 PM (kTF2Z)
533
tsrblke, the only thing she wants turn us into is slaves for the global aristocracy.
Read that as new world order.
One world govt.
And to my brothers and sisters never forget...
"We battle not against flesh and blood..."
Read that as new world order.
One world govt.
And to my brothers and sisters never forget...
"We battle not against flesh and blood..."
Posted by: teej at October 17, 2016 06:37 PM (uSkUN)
534
Sure, Trump is vulgar and indecent as an individual. But he doesn't want to reprogram society to write over what's left of traditional morality, replacing it with an "it-takes-a-village," communitarian love of Big Sister.
This is kind of what it all boils down to. I don't like Trump, I think he;s a sleazy con man who spends other people's money, rips people off in his business, and is generally a soulless tycoon. But he does seem to genuinely love America, does have some handle on how the economy works, and seems to learn from mistakes and changes, instead of hammering harder with the only tool in the box like Hillary.
This is kind of what it all boils down to. I don't like Trump, I think he;s a sleazy con man who spends other people's money, rips people off in his business, and is generally a soulless tycoon. But he does seem to genuinely love America, does have some handle on how the economy works, and seems to learn from mistakes and changes, instead of hammering harder with the only tool in the box like Hillary.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 06:37 PM (39g3+)
535
[i...Someone who saw herself as a vagina-messiah wouldn't have any reason to loot the nation with a money-laundering RICO outfit like CGI. ...
osted by: Qoheleth at October 17, 2016 06:31 PM (iIzG7)
A woman like Hillary has got a great big hole, right in the middle of her. She can never control enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.
osted by: Qoheleth at October 17, 2016 06:31 PM (iIzG7)
A woman like Hillary has got a great big hole, right in the middle of her. She can never control enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.
Posted by: Doc Holiday at October 17, 2016 06:37 PM (NWEal)
536
Hillary is pure, concentrated evil.
But she is also detached from the real world and a total incompetent. If she gets elected, the economy will tank further, race relations will continue to go south, corruption will expand and grow and we will be in a major shooting war in 6 months.
But she is also detached from the real world and a total incompetent. If she gets elected, the economy will tank further, race relations will continue to go south, corruption will expand and grow and we will be in a major shooting war in 6 months.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2016 06:37 PM (ej1L0)
537
"So, the FBIs own document uses the phrase quid pro quo and nothing happens. Lawless."
ClintonLand used a file folder labeled "pay for play."
Hillary's outside IT help put "Clinton Cover-up Operation" on their work tickets for billing purposes.
These Krazy Kids. What wacky senses of humor!
ClintonLand used a file folder labeled "pay for play."
Hillary's outside IT help put "Clinton Cover-up Operation" on their work tickets for billing purposes.
These Krazy Kids. What wacky senses of humor!
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 06:39 PM (r1fLd)
538
Yes, we all must be remade in a better image than that of God.
And society must be remade, tossing aside all the lessons hard learnt by humankind, and started fresh, a new society, designed by our betters.
Sort of a "start from zero approach", dont'cha think?
Ask the Cambodians how that worked out.
And society must be remade, tossing aside all the lessons hard learnt by humankind, and started fresh, a new society, designed by our betters.
Sort of a "start from zero approach", dont'cha think?
Ask the Cambodians how that worked out.
Posted by: West at October 17, 2016 06:39 PM (6bL0i)
539
Hairyback Guy- don't see anything you got there I couldn't disagree with
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 06:42 PM (sWbjH)
540
That would never work here at the Peruvian embassy. We've got a protective coating on the string between the two tin cans that they'd never be able to cut.
Posted by: Peruvian Internet Security Service at October 17, 2016 06:33 PM (9chpj)
Those powder coats can be cut with the right base.
Posted by: Peruvian Internet Security Service at October 17, 2016 06:33 PM (9chpj)
Those powder coats can be cut with the right base.
Posted by: P. Escobeer at October 17, 2016 06:42 PM (NWEal)
541
"So, the FBIs own document uses the phrase quid pro quo and nothing happens. Lawless."
I'd sell my mother to hear Trump announce that as soon as he's President, the first person to step forward and sing will be the one who avoids prison.
Fill in the blanks, friends: "like (blank)s deserting a (blank)ing (blank)."
I'd sell my mother to hear Trump announce that as soon as he's President, the first person to step forward and sing will be the one who avoids prison.
Fill in the blanks, friends: "like (blank)s deserting a (blank)ing (blank)."
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 17, 2016 06:43 PM (iIzG7)
542
How for is the Ecuadorian embassy from the Russian embassy
+++
I don't think they wanted to take him in
+++
I don't think they wanted to take him in
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at October 17, 2016 06:43 PM (U0lQa)
543
None of the network or cable channels are airing O'Keefe's video. Not even FOX.
And someone tell me why Drudge hasn't had a single word about it all day.
And someone tell me why Drudge hasn't had a single word about it all day.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 06:44 PM (eM2Uz)
Posted by: Barack Obama at October 17, 2016 06:44 PM (iFgwk)
545
518 Not buying it. Doesn't matter anyway.
Nice post by Tusk - and thanks to Ace for prompting it and publishing it.
Leftists believe in telling people what to do and punishing those who don't do it. In short, they're fascists in the truest sense. I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
Posted by: FireHorse
That's totalitarianism. Fascism is an economic approach that they are also enjoying. That's my understanding anyway.
Hillary is much worse. She doesn't even want real communism which I could maybe respect as idealism, but the Soviet implementation right down to Black Sea Dachas (read Marthas Vinyard)for them and gulags and ice picks for her enemies.
Even if Trump wins, there's nothing but shame that it came this close. What would the greatest generation (or indeed ANY generation prior) think?
Nice post by Tusk - and thanks to Ace for prompting it and publishing it.
Leftists believe in telling people what to do and punishing those who don't do it. In short, they're fascists in the truest sense. I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
Posted by: FireHorse
That's totalitarianism. Fascism is an economic approach that they are also enjoying. That's my understanding anyway.
Hillary is much worse. She doesn't even want real communism which I could maybe respect as idealism, but the Soviet implementation right down to Black Sea Dachas (read Marthas Vinyard)for them and gulags and ice picks for her enemies.
Even if Trump wins, there's nothing but shame that it came this close. What would the greatest generation (or indeed ANY generation prior) think?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 17, 2016 06:44 PM (iWW0H)
546
I don't think they wanted to take him in
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at October 17, 2016 06:43 PM (U0lQa)
CCraine has these point to point wifiantennas.
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at October 17, 2016 06:43 PM (U0lQa)
CCraine has these point to point wifiantennas.
Posted by: gNewt....in the basket... wants a new party at October 17, 2016 06:45 PM (NWEal)
547
Wait a minute, i f'd that UP, i think.
Messing with double negatives can mess you up
Messing with double negatives can mess you up
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 06:46 PM (sWbjH)
548
Maybe not
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 06:47 PM (sWbjH)
549
I'd put this on my blog but nobody reads it and I'm just tired of the whole thing:
We are in a time in America where everyone is massively divided on politics, to the point of tooth-gnashing rage over every single issue and candidate. Not just divided like two friends, but turning into enemies with furious bitterness. The last time this happened, we erupted into the bloodiest and most ghastly war in American history.
And I know the cause. Its not "heated rhetoric" or the internet, or radicalism in candidates or culture wars, although all that contributes.
Its power. The federal, state, and local governments have gotten so much power over every aspect of our lives that instead of being a contest over which fellow will waste our time and smoke cigars in office, they affect us in critical, absolute ways. The bloat and expansion of the government at all levels, particularly federal means that there's too much at stake every election. We're not voting for representatives. We're voting for our future, desperate to control what the state can and will do.
Even just thirty years ago nobody seriously believed the government would monitor all our phonecalls and drag people off to prison. Nobody seriously believed that you could be arrested for how the dust blew off your property when you plowed a field or where you smoked. Nobody believed you could be fined or jailed for who you baked a cake for or didn't. And already by that time the federal government was far too vast.
Now its even bigger, exponentially, like the Blob. Its eating everything. And that means every election everything is at stake. The last 8 years of President Obama has seen a deliberate, systematic, and overwhelming drive from the top down to totally change the culture and throw everything that we know and became in America away for something radical and new.
Even if you believe this is a good change, its so fast and so dominating and so top-down that it is incredibly disruptive to culture and our identity as a nation, not to mention the function and identity of the nation in the world at large. And that is something people do not take lightly or go through easily, even if they aren't really aware of what's happening.
Every election becomes ever more important and the stakes get ever higher, because every election the federal government has spread further like a cancer devouring more and more freedom, power, and influence. Each election is a desperate bid to control that power, because of how it can and will be used.
And as each presidency goes by, we see that power used for more and more extreme and expansive things -- in the name of doing good and helping out of course -- but used either way. So each election is more horrifying and important. The stakes have gotten so high that I fear there will be blood on the streets before the next one.
And there's only one way out of this: for the monster to be cut back, for the government to shrink. And I see no possible way for that to happen within the system and within the boundaries of law.
We are in a time in America where everyone is massively divided on politics, to the point of tooth-gnashing rage over every single issue and candidate. Not just divided like two friends, but turning into enemies with furious bitterness. The last time this happened, we erupted into the bloodiest and most ghastly war in American history.
And I know the cause. Its not "heated rhetoric" or the internet, or radicalism in candidates or culture wars, although all that contributes.
Its power. The federal, state, and local governments have gotten so much power over every aspect of our lives that instead of being a contest over which fellow will waste our time and smoke cigars in office, they affect us in critical, absolute ways. The bloat and expansion of the government at all levels, particularly federal means that there's too much at stake every election. We're not voting for representatives. We're voting for our future, desperate to control what the state can and will do.
Even just thirty years ago nobody seriously believed the government would monitor all our phonecalls and drag people off to prison. Nobody seriously believed that you could be arrested for how the dust blew off your property when you plowed a field or where you smoked. Nobody believed you could be fined or jailed for who you baked a cake for or didn't. And already by that time the federal government was far too vast.
Now its even bigger, exponentially, like the Blob. Its eating everything. And that means every election everything is at stake. The last 8 years of President Obama has seen a deliberate, systematic, and overwhelming drive from the top down to totally change the culture and throw everything that we know and became in America away for something radical and new.
Even if you believe this is a good change, its so fast and so dominating and so top-down that it is incredibly disruptive to culture and our identity as a nation, not to mention the function and identity of the nation in the world at large. And that is something people do not take lightly or go through easily, even if they aren't really aware of what's happening.
Every election becomes ever more important and the stakes get ever higher, because every election the federal government has spread further like a cancer devouring more and more freedom, power, and influence. Each election is a desperate bid to control that power, because of how it can and will be used.
And as each presidency goes by, we see that power used for more and more extreme and expansive things -- in the name of doing good and helping out of course -- but used either way. So each election is more horrifying and important. The stakes have gotten so high that I fear there will be blood on the streets before the next one.
And there's only one way out of this: for the monster to be cut back, for the government to shrink. And I see no possible way for that to happen within the system and within the boundaries of law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 06:47 PM (39g3+)
550
Fill in the blanks, friends: "like (blank)s deserting a (blank)ing (blank)."
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Whores deserting the friggin whorehouse.
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Whores deserting the friggin whorehouse.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 17, 2016 06:47 PM (kTF2Z)
551
Hillary isn't the real issue, she's just another the manifestation of the disease that is progressivism. She couldn't do anything if it weren't for her bootlicking, sycophantic, well paid media allies and the money derived from Clinton Crime Foundation.
In order to excise the cancer that is progressivism, the MSM needs to be held accountable for their actions and the Clinton Crime Foundation needs to be dismantled.
In order to excise the cancer that is progressivism, the MSM needs to be held accountable for their actions and the Clinton Crime Foundation needs to be dismantled.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 17, 2016 06:47 PM (+DiO8)
Posted by: pedant bait at October 17, 2016 06:48 PM (8OYMp)
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 17, 2016 06:50 PM (iIzG7)
554
Like blanks deserting a vasectomy patient.
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2016 06:50 PM (HgMAr)
555
@ 37, Jujubee- 'Shes no fun, she fell right over".
Firesign theater. Thanks for that, I haven't thought about them in years. Its little things like that which makes this place special.
Firesign theater. Thanks for that, I haven't thought about them in years. Its little things like that which makes this place special.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 17, 2016 06:51 PM (cCxiu)
556
549--- Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 06:47 PM (39g3+)
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Hey, I read that whole thing!
And it was definitely NOT a waste of time!
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Hey, I read that whole thing!
And it was definitely NOT a waste of time!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2016 06:51 PM (Nox3c)
557
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 06:47 PM (39g3+)
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Was about to scroll past until I saw your nic. Went back and read it as I always enjoy your posts. I agree with every word.
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Was about to scroll past until I saw your nic. Went back and read it as I always enjoy your posts. I agree with every word.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 17, 2016 06:51 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 06:52 PM (eM2Uz)
559
552 ice picks for her enemies.
wait for it ...
Posted by: pedant bait at October 17, 2016 06:48 PM (8OYMp)
What is "ice axes" for $800, Alex?
wait for it ...
Posted by: pedant bait at October 17, 2016 06:48 PM (8OYMp)
What is "ice axes" for $800, Alex?
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 17, 2016 06:52 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: washrivergal at October 17, 2016 06:53 PM (CFc5L)
561
>>>We are in a time in America where everyone is massively divided on politics, to the point of tooth-gnashing rage over every single issue and candidate. Not just divided like two friends, but turning into enemies with furious bitterness. The last time this happened, we erupted into the bloodiest and most ghastly war in American history.
I think this gets exaggerated. If it is out there, it needs to be solved at the individual level.
I think this gets exaggerated. If it is out there, it needs to be solved at the individual level.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 17, 2016 06:54 PM (UVPUt)
562
Christopher I agree there seems no stopping this. The only chance is a candidate who can talk the nation into shrinking the government. But the natural order is bigger goverment, the entire planet is bent on it. We were the only outlier.
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 06:54 PM (sWbjH)
563
And I see no possible way for that to happen within the system and within the boundaries of law.
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Maybe not *your* laws.
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Maybe not *your* laws.
Posted by: Mathematics at October 17, 2016 06:55 PM (3Liv/)
564
What's the difference between Trotsky's head and a big block of ice?
See? It was an honest mistake
See? It was an honest mistake
Posted by: Lenin at October 17, 2016 06:55 PM (wMHCu)
565
Anyone know if there is any history between O'Keefe and Drudge? Wondering why Drudge isn't linking his stuff.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 06:55 PM (eM2Uz)
566
Re: The Evangelical comment:
It might be instructive to know Evangelicals are not a lopsided voting bloc for GOP/conservatives as you might think. I remember this from reading one of Ann coulter's books when she broke down the actual demographics to dis credit the notion that the Evangelicals were a more reliable voting bloc for Republicans than african americans were for democrats.
So it's not surprising to see some Evangelicals going full retard NeverTrump, and despite their bloviating their voting impact may be the same as previous elections. They're the same ones who stayed home in 2012 or voted for Obama in order to virtue signal just how more enlightened and righteous they are than the redneck sinner who can't find a job because God is punishing him for supporting Trump.
It might be instructive to know Evangelicals are not a lopsided voting bloc for GOP/conservatives as you might think. I remember this from reading one of Ann coulter's books when she broke down the actual demographics to dis credit the notion that the Evangelicals were a more reliable voting bloc for Republicans than african americans were for democrats.
So it's not surprising to see some Evangelicals going full retard NeverTrump, and despite their bloviating their voting impact may be the same as previous elections. They're the same ones who stayed home in 2012 or voted for Obama in order to virtue signal just how more enlightened and righteous they are than the redneck sinner who can't find a job because God is punishing him for supporting Trump.
Posted by: #NeverHillary at October 17, 2016 06:56 PM (NtOk2)
567
Fill in the blanks, friends: "like (blank)s deserting a (blank)ing (blank)."
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Whores deserting the friggin whorehouse.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Holy (blanking) (blank)!
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Whores deserting the friggin whorehouse.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Holy (blanking) (blank)!
Posted by: Zombie Gene Raeburn at October 17, 2016 06:56 PM (89T5c)
568
If that's her view of herself, then that puts the "irredeemable" remark in a new light.
She thinks she can judge...and damn...our souls. Therefore, in her darkened mind, our bodies are of no consequence either.
We're just fodder for her hate machine.
She thinks she can judge...and damn...our souls. Therefore, in her darkened mind, our bodies are of no consequence either.
We're just fodder for her hate machine.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 17, 2016 06:56 PM (rJUlF)
569
Idle thought: I wonder if there was, pre-Bill and during the "Goldwater Girl" phase, a GOP version of Bill. Promised to take her places (politically speaking), she'd be wealthy and powerful, etc. Then he burned her. It would explain the conversion to the left, Bill, hell even the rug munching.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 17, 2016 06:57 PM (GUBah)
570
Christopher R. Taylor
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That was an amazing analysis and exactly right. I am printing it out and giving it to my family.
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That was an amazing analysis and exactly right. I am printing it out and giving it to my family.
Posted by: Peggy at October 17, 2016 06:57 PM (HBU7W)
571
And I know the cause. Its not "heated rhetoric" or the internet, or radicalism in candidates or culture wars, although all that contributes.
Its power.
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Decent post, but if you please, I think it goes to what people perceive as their livelihoods. If Hillary is elected, large segments of the population feel that seals their fate as doomed forever, their towns will die, their families scatter.
Other large segments believe treasured freedoms, such as gun ownership, will be lost. So perhaps that speaks to tradition no longer handed down.
And I know the cause. Its not "heated rhetoric" or the internet, or radicalism in candidates or culture wars, although all that contributes.
Its power.
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Decent post, but if you please, I think it goes to what people perceive as their livelihoods. If Hillary is elected, large segments of the population feel that seals their fate as doomed forever, their towns will die, their families scatter.
Other large segments believe treasured freedoms, such as gun ownership, will be lost. So perhaps that speaks to tradition no longer handed down.
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at October 17, 2016 06:58 PM (U0lQa)
572
549
The stakes have gotten so high that I fear there will be blood on the streets before the next one.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 06:47 PM (39g3+)
I expect it to start right after this one, no matter the outcome.
Good post. I've also made the point that people have become obsessed with elections because the government has grown so powerful. I'm sure that most people didn't eat, sleep, and breathe politics 100 years ago because government didn't have that much of an impact on their day-to-day lives.
In other words, they had more freedom.
The stakes have gotten so high that I fear there will be blood on the streets before the next one.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 06:47 PM (39g3+)
I expect it to start right after this one, no matter the outcome.
Good post. I've also made the point that people have become obsessed with elections because the government has grown so powerful. I'm sure that most people didn't eat, sleep, and breathe politics 100 years ago because government didn't have that much of an impact on their day-to-day lives.
In other words, they had more freedom.
Posted by: rickl the deplorable at October 17, 2016 06:58 PM (sdi6R)
573
That was an amazing analysis and exactly right. I am printing it out and giving it to my family.
Posted by: Peggy at October 17, 2016 06:57 PM (HBU7W)
I just got here, what post number was this?
Posted by: Peggy at October 17, 2016 06:57 PM (HBU7W)
I just got here, what post number was this?
Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 17, 2016 06:59 PM (IdP+K)
574
549
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2016 07:00 PM (sWbjH)
575
Happy warriors people, happy warriors
Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 17, 2016 07:00 PM (IdP+K)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2016 07:01 PM (89T5c)
577
Chris post that on your blog and I'll link to it on my Facebook. That'll drive like 4 hits.
Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 17, 2016 07:02 PM (IdP+K)
578
That's totalitarianism. Fascism is an economic approach that they are also enjoying. That's my understanding anyway.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn
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I'm going back further, to ancient Rome. A fascio was a bundle of branches that would be used to beat someone who broke the law. The emperor's fascio had an axe blade stuck in it; only he could kill with this tool. In the Leftist's mind, that's all there is to any of this.
Consider carrots and sticks without regard to specific policies: Trump wants to give a tax break for parents who need day care for their kids. That's a "carrot" approach. Government has done this with everything from clock thermostats to retirement savings. Uncle Sam is your partner, as they used to say.
ObamaCare could have sold easily with carrots - raise taxes, then give a tax break for anyone with health insurance - but they used the "stick" approach instead. That's Obama, and that's Clinton. Uncle Sam is your master. Do what (s)he says or get hit with a stick.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn
________
I'm going back further, to ancient Rome. A fascio was a bundle of branches that would be used to beat someone who broke the law. The emperor's fascio had an axe blade stuck in it; only he could kill with this tool. In the Leftist's mind, that's all there is to any of this.
Consider carrots and sticks without regard to specific policies: Trump wants to give a tax break for parents who need day care for their kids. That's a "carrot" approach. Government has done this with everything from clock thermostats to retirement savings. Uncle Sam is your partner, as they used to say.
ObamaCare could have sold easily with carrots - raise taxes, then give a tax break for anyone with health insurance - but they used the "stick" approach instead. That's Obama, and that's Clinton. Uncle Sam is your master. Do what (s)he says or get hit with a stick.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 17, 2016 07:03 PM (Xa9M/)
579
569--
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 17, 2016 06:57 PM (GUBah)
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Her father was a Goldwater Republican and, from what I gather, was not very nice to her. She definitely has serious daddy issues.
Maybe there was also a boyfriend problem. Interesting to speculate.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 17, 2016 06:57 PM (GUBah)
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Her father was a Goldwater Republican and, from what I gather, was not very nice to her. She definitely has serious daddy issues.
Maybe there was also a boyfriend problem. Interesting to speculate.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2016 07:04 PM (Nox3c)
580
Idle thought: I wonder if there was, pre-Bill and during the "Goldwater Girl" phase, a GOP version of Bill. Promised to take her places (politically speaking), she'd be wealthy and powerful, etc. Then he burned her. It would explain the conversion to the left, Bill, hell even the rug munching.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 17, 2016 06:57 PM (GUBah)
Yup...you guessed it. Hillary was sexually assaulted by Trump in 1964 and she has been a man hating old leftist bint ever since.
Huma Whateverthehellhernameis had no comment.
Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at October 17, 2016 06:57 PM (GUBah)
Yup...you guessed it. Hillary was sexually assaulted by Trump in 1964 and she has been a man hating old leftist bint ever since.
Huma Whateverthehellhernameis had no comment.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2016 07:06 PM (ej1L0)
581
Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack
I liked your editing of Eisenhower's Crusade Order of the Day for the D-Day troops.
Do you mind if i steal that, with attribution?
I liked your editing of Eisenhower's Crusade Order of the Day for the D-Day troops.
Do you mind if i steal that, with attribution?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 17, 2016 07:07 PM (u82oZ)
582
Another Wikileak: Clinton insiders Joel Benenson and Podesta hosted parties for the Kool Kid Journolists just prior to the official launch of Hillary's campaign.
To get their stories straight.
To get their stories straight.
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 17, 2016 07:07 PM (r1fLd)
583
So Hillary thinks she is Oliver Cromwell.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 17, 2016 07:09 PM (jcSzd)
584
Nood.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2016 07:09 PM (eM2Uz)
585
Her changeability is so scary.
For the best of all possible reasons (Her parents were GOP), she began her adult life as the Tracy Flick of Republicans.
Then she attends the 1968 RNC & hears Nixon speak in person, and suddenly, in a matter of a few years, the blink of an eye in the history of humans, she was the Tracy Flickier of Democrats.
Then, a mere 48 years later, not even half a century for gawd's sake, she ... well, she's still a Dem - the all time Tracy Flickiest of Ds.
Gaaaaah, women are so changeable.
And good for Ace for seeing how freaking bang on Tusk nailed her: her insane religious zealotry for tolerance, empathy, understanding and compromise is absolutely the most frightening prospect in human history since the Inquisition!
For the best of all possible reasons (Her parents were GOP), she began her adult life as the Tracy Flick of Republicans.
Then she attends the 1968 RNC & hears Nixon speak in person, and suddenly, in a matter of a few years, the blink of an eye in the history of humans, she was the Tracy Flickier of Democrats.
Then, a mere 48 years later, not even half a century for gawd's sake, she ... well, she's still a Dem - the all time Tracy Flickiest of Ds.
Gaaaaah, women are so changeable.
And good for Ace for seeing how freaking bang on Tusk nailed her: her insane religious zealotry for tolerance, empathy, understanding and compromise is absolutely the most frightening prospect in human history since the Inquisition!
Posted by: Locker Up at October 17, 2016 07:14 PM (lqeGC)
586
Go right ahead Nacly! I bet you could improve it too
Posted by: Phone of kari which, deplorably, features a headphone jack at October 17, 2016 07:14 PM (IdP+K)
587
Blacklisting O'Keefe
James O'Keefe@JamesOKeefeIII
WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance. Are these publically traded media corporations afraid of @TheJusticeDept reprisals/retaliation?
James O'Keefe@JamesOKeefeIII
WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance. Are these publically traded media corporations afraid of @TheJusticeDept reprisals/retaliation?
Posted by: A member of the underclass at October 17, 2016 07:20 PM (QDA8m)
588
The stakes have gotten so high that I fear there will be blood on the streets before the next one.
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there's blood in the streets now...
and it's going to get worse: you have to wonder at the minds of the people who are deliberately causing this... do they really think they can win an open battle?
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there's blood in the streets now...
and it's going to get worse: you have to wonder at the minds of the people who are deliberately causing this... do they really think they can win an open battle?
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 17, 2016 07:23 PM (r3GNW)
589
528 473----Also young people have every right to be piased off at the lazy bloomer generation for voting for the same people over an over again selling the country's future down the river along with their own children's and grandchildren's.
Give me a break with the it is the fault of young people and men's fault.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 06:01 PM (ko0V2)
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By "bloomer" do you mean baby-boomer?
You do know that the baby-boomers were the ONLY generation to vote AGAINST Obama in both 2008 and 2012?
How did the younger people vote, eh?
(But, yeah, we CAN blame women as a group.)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2016 06:31 PM (Nox3c)
Younger people voted for Obama. So did the Boomers.(Auto correct).
Please defend the Boomers electing the same people over and over again in a transparent one party system. They were lazy and not vigilant about educating themselves to protect liberty. They acted selfish as a group only concerned with economic comfort for themselves. They are the only generation to leave America noticeably worse off than when they held the reigns.
Sucks but so does the truth. Along with gynocentric Culture the Boomers enabled and nourished.
Just get tired of people scapegoating on the under 40 age group as the scource of our countries ills. Who do you think raised that group and propped up the culture they live in.
Give me a break with the it is the fault of young people and men's fault.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 06:01 PM (ko0V2)
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By "bloomer" do you mean baby-boomer?
You do know that the baby-boomers were the ONLY generation to vote AGAINST Obama in both 2008 and 2012?
How did the younger people vote, eh?
(But, yeah, we CAN blame women as a group.)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2016 06:31 PM (Nox3c)
Younger people voted for Obama. So did the Boomers.(Auto correct).
Please defend the Boomers electing the same people over and over again in a transparent one party system. They were lazy and not vigilant about educating themselves to protect liberty. They acted selfish as a group only concerned with economic comfort for themselves. They are the only generation to leave America noticeably worse off than when they held the reigns.
Sucks but so does the truth. Along with gynocentric Culture the Boomers enabled and nourished.
Just get tired of people scapegoating on the under 40 age group as the scource of our countries ills. Who do you think raised that group and propped up the culture they live in.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 17, 2016 07:23 PM (ko0V2)
590
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 06:47 PM (39g3+)
Agree 100% Chris, and maybe I'll just bookmark your blog!
Agree 100% Chris, and maybe I'll just bookmark your blog!
Posted by: Subterranean JT at October 17, 2016 07:24 PM (qG0hz)
591
Pepe, I can certainly vouch for certain 'boomer aged' relatives of mine who couldn't wait to vote for Obama, no matter what I tried to tell them. Even when his re-election came around, they admitted they made a mistake (and I seriously doubt they voted Romney). You are pot on about Boomers
Posted by: the Butcher at October 17, 2016 07:27 PM (AGJqR)
592
oops, 'spot on' Pepe, didn't mean to infer anything.....
Posted by: the Butcher at October 17, 2016 07:28 PM (AGJqR)
593
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2016 06:47 PM (39g3+)
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Torches and Pitchforks.a
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Torches and Pitchforks.a
Posted by: Weasel at October 17, 2016 07:32 PM (Sfs6o)
594
Nixon's take on Hillary when he met her and Bill, newly in the What House: that she was an icy radical leftwinger.
Icy.
Radical.
Leftist.
Also that Chelsea seemed to be afraid of her, and that Hillary (unlike Bill) had Zero warm connection/rapport with her own child.
Icy.
Radical.
Leftist.
Also that Chelsea seemed to be afraid of her, and that Hillary (unlike Bill) had Zero warm connection/rapport with her own child.
Posted by: Beverly at October 17, 2016 07:32 PM (LXcq6)
595
587 Blacklisting O'Keefe
James O'Keefe@JamesOKeefeIII
WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance. Are these publically traded media corporations afraid of @TheJusticeDept reprisals/retaliation?
Well if not, then they are afraid of the shadow organizers, the union thugs and the mentally unstable people the Democrats have on payroll.
James O'Keefe@JamesOKeefeIII
WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance. Are these publically traded media corporations afraid of @TheJusticeDept reprisals/retaliation?
Well if not, then they are afraid of the shadow organizers, the union thugs and the mentally unstable people the Democrats have on payroll.
Posted by: West at October 17, 2016 07:35 PM (6bL0i)
596
Hillary wants to put all of put all of our testicles in a testicular lock box.
Posted by: R. DUKE at October 17, 2016 07:42 PM (ONH2e)
597
there's blood in the streets now...
and it's going to get worse: you have to wonder at the minds of the people who are deliberately causing this... do they really think they can win an open battle?
They think they can control it.
and it's going to get worse: you have to wonder at the minds of the people who are deliberately causing this... do they really think they can win an open battle?
They think they can control it.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2016 07:50 PM (lFi5f)
Posted by: Corona at October 17, 2016 08:09 PM (ragzU)
599
Blacklisting O'Keefe
James O'Keefe@JamesOKeefeIII
WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance. Are these publically
traded media corporations afraid of @TheJusticeDept
reprisals/retaliation?
The FUCK???
James O'Keefe@JamesOKeefeIII
WOW! @FoxNews just canceled my appearance. Are these publically
traded media corporations afraid of @TheJusticeDept
reprisals/retaliation?
The FUCK???
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 17, 2016 08:20 PM (928Aa)
Posted by: A member of the underclass at October 17, 2016 08:23 PM (QDA8m)
Posted by: A member of the underclass at October 17, 2016 08:27 PM (QDA8m)
602
Really? You would go left instead of right?
Posted by: Luly at October 17, 2016 08:36 PM (XYNna)
603
Hey I'm barely a boomer and a woman and there's no fucking way I'd ever vote for a democrat Pepe so don't blame me. I barely remember the 60's and didn't even graduate high school until 1980. What does that make me? Lol. I'm technically a boomer but what's the generation after that?
Posted by: jaimo at October 17, 2016 08:39 PM (eDc0r)
604
Never. Not even in the face of Armageddon. If I can't do anything else, I will bear witness.
Posted by: Zapp Branigan at October 17, 2016 08:41 PM (pInIV)
605
If Hillary considers herself a Messianic Joan f Arc perhaps the Roman Catholics should consider praying for the intervention of the actual Joan of Arc to ask God to save us from having this faux saint as our President.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at October 17, 2016 08:42 PM (EnGQE)
606
FenelonSpoke, that is well underway.
Posted by: Zapp Branigan at October 17, 2016 08:43 PM (pInIV)
607
This is sort of moronic. For all the focus on Hillary specifically, the real problem is the cultural left-wing core of the party she will not challenge. If they hadn't increased significantly in the last 4-8 years I wouldn't've put it past her to adopt more moderate positions on select issues.
Of course, this is technical & doesn't really matter, and I'm sure there's certain things she's always been ideologically committed to personally. But the broader problem is who's powering the Democratic Party right now.
If you guys do a lazy Hillary-ized version of "the ALINSKYITE ROOTS of Barack Obama" assuming she wins, you played yourself
Of course, this is technical & doesn't really matter, and I'm sure there's certain things she's always been ideologically committed to personally. But the broader problem is who's powering the Democratic Party right now.
If you guys do a lazy Hillary-ized version of "the ALINSKYITE ROOTS of Barack Obama" assuming she wins, you played yourself
Posted by: Talk at October 17, 2016 08:52 PM (Iygtm)
608
Hillary wants to put all of put all of our testicles in a testicular lock box.
Posted by: R. DUKE
Heh, good luck with that shit when my turn comes. They're gonna be searching a LOOOONG time.
Posted by: R. DUKE
Heh, good luck with that shit when my turn comes. They're gonna be searching a LOOOONG time.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 17, 2016 08:54 PM (OkKDg)
609
Hillary wants to put all of put all of our testicles in a testicular lock box.
Posted by: R. DUKE
I feel like this disgusting penis monster attached itself to me, injecting poison into me that deforms my body. I want it destroyed, not put into a box, where it could escape and re-attach itself to me.
Posted by: R. DUKE
I feel like this disgusting penis monster attached itself to me, injecting poison into me that deforms my body. I want it destroyed, not put into a box, where it could escape and re-attach itself to me.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 17, 2016 08:59 PM (OkKDg)
610
Hillary, she'll make you right or you'll die during the try.
Posted by: geoffb5 at October 17, 2016 10:42 PM (d3wbb)
611
"Eric Hoffer wrote a pretty dang good book called "The True Believer" ("Thoughts On The Nature Of Mass Movement") that was published in 1951 on this very trait the post is about. If anyone hasn't read it, it's short: give it a whirl."
Seconded. Everyone should absolutely read this.
Seconded. Everyone should absolutely read this.
Posted by: Trumps of Doom at October 17, 2016 10:42 PM (5c1Pi)
612
"I wonder if there was, pre-Bill and during the "Goldwater Girl" phase, a GOP version of Bill."
Quite possible. Remember, Arianna Huffington used to claim to be a "conservative" until her husband left her for a man.
Quite possible. Remember, Arianna Huffington used to claim to be a "conservative" until her husband left her for a man.
Posted by: Trumps of Doom at October 17, 2016 10:46 PM (5c1Pi)
613
Glenn Beck is clearly a Natural Born True Believer.
Posted by: WARPIG at October 17, 2016 11:15 PM (KL5Ns)
614
"Hillary Is Not a "Soulless, Pragmatic Corporatist Who Will Preserve the Status Quo," as Pro-Hillary "Conservatives" Claim.
She Sees Herself as a Messianic Joan of Arc to Deliver the Left's Revelation to the Earth."
You probably should have thought of this before you nominated the only person on earth that is going to lose to her.
She Sees Herself as a Messianic Joan of Arc to Deliver the Left's Revelation to the Earth."
You probably should have thought of this before you nominated the only person on earth that is going to lose to her.
Posted by: Poor ace. at October 17, 2016 11:56 PM (p8YKk)
615
Not buying it.
The "make things right" meme doesn't square with the "standing up for Billy Jeff's rapey ways" reality.
Lying about what you personally did is self serving reality, making things right means taking responsibility not dodging it.
The "make things right" meme doesn't square with the "standing up for Billy Jeff's rapey ways" reality.
Lying about what you personally did is self serving reality, making things right means taking responsibility not dodging it.
Posted by: Speller at October 18, 2016 12:03 AM (pSotA)
616
That's who you reminds me of! An evil Mrs. Rogers!
You can't take away people's right to be assholes!
You can't take away people's right to be assholes!
Posted by: What Simon Phoenix Would Say To Hillary at October 18, 2016 07:07 AM (ndGCC)
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messianic? try satanic
Posted by: endisnigh at October 18, 2016 07:36 AM (+ACY2)
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It's true that Hillary was a "Goldwater Girl" in 1964 (when she was too young to vote), but was that a real ideological commitment? Or was she just going along with what her parents and many people in her town supported?
Posted by: Joshua K. at October 18, 2016 11:42 AM (oCZ4e)
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This discussion of Hillary reminds me of Rubio's disastrous debate where he was sandbagged by Christie into repeating himself. Rubio was dispensing wisdom on Obama, and insisting that Obama was not merely incompetent, but was redefining America by design, even if the disastrous results naturally felt like the work of an incompetent. Rubio made a grave tactical performance editor in his insistence on winning a point that was nuanced and ill-suited for a debate stage with many participants and consequentially limited time (it may have been more effective later on with a thinned herd) and Christie was effective in characterizing it as formulaic (it wasn't) and repetitive (it was, Rubio needed to expound on the point, but just repeated it).
But on the merits Rubio was correct: Obama has never been inept, nor has he been penetrable to compromise. Rather, he has been effective in driving his agendas: a larger public sector vs. private sector, a diminished American authority globally, a redistribution of power in the Middle East that has weakened Israel and bolstered Iran, an increased strain and coarsening in race relations coupled with leftist solutions of appeasement of criminals and capitulation by police, a lessening of religious liberty, an increased acceptance of open border immigration, and so on.....
These were not accidents. These were not the result of compromise. These were not failed policy. These were the policy, a continuation thereof will be the policy of Hillary Clinton, and we should assume that she will be just as capable as her infamous predecessor in accomplishing more of what he conceived and implemented.
But on the merits Rubio was correct: Obama has never been inept, nor has he been penetrable to compromise. Rather, he has been effective in driving his agendas: a larger public sector vs. private sector, a diminished American authority globally, a redistribution of power in the Middle East that has weakened Israel and bolstered Iran, an increased strain and coarsening in race relations coupled with leftist solutions of appeasement of criminals and capitulation by police, a lessening of religious liberty, an increased acceptance of open border immigration, and so on.....
These were not accidents. These were not the result of compromise. These were not failed policy. These were the policy, a continuation thereof will be the policy of Hillary Clinton, and we should assume that she will be just as capable as her infamous predecessor in accomplishing more of what he conceived and implemented.
Posted by: jsstag at October 18, 2016 01:46 PM (zNKsE)
Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 19, 2016 04:26 PM (1zARK)
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As president, she'll steal her way into becoming the first trillionaire.
Posted by: Otto Maddox at October 20, 2016 12:49 PM (Vb9ZU)
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re: 180° conversion
No such thing. Paul is often used as an example (Acts 9) but it is not true. Saul was 100% FOR God before his conversion and he was 100% FOR God after his conversion (as Paul). His error was only that he was in error as to who he thought God was. I have seen an extreme orthodox Christian girl become an extreme activist lesbian almost over night - and yet truly she did not change - she was arrogant and self-righteous both before and after - EXACTLY the same. Conversion comes only in humilty - none of which is seen in Hillary.
No such thing. Paul is often used as an example (Acts 9) but it is not true. Saul was 100% FOR God before his conversion and he was 100% FOR God after his conversion (as Paul). His error was only that he was in error as to who he thought God was. I have seen an extreme orthodox Christian girl become an extreme activist lesbian almost over night - and yet truly she did not change - she was arrogant and self-righteous both before and after - EXACTLY the same. Conversion comes only in humilty - none of which is seen in Hillary.
Posted by: Dean Daniels at October 23, 2016 01:12 AM (DsglL)
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