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Trump Speech Reactions Thread
The problem is, this speech seems believable and convincing, especially in a vacuum.
— Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) July 22, 2016
I'm scared.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 21, 2016 11:38 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (dULJN)
Posted by: Frank Waturi - Advertising Dept: American Panoscope at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (jjNBN)
Posted by: Jim at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (v5iqM)
Posted by: iforgot at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: Barky at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (TOQP1)
Posted by: orangebreath at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (F5zRG)
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (dULJN)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (ry34m)
Never watch speech in a vacuum. Kinda cramped.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (ODxAs)
Plus you can't hear a damn thing.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (yxupc)
I wish I'd seen the part when Melania comes out and they kiss or whatever.
Posted by: iforgot at July 21, 2016 11:40 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: Good Goy at July 21, 2016 11:40 PM (UZUGw)
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at July 21, 2016 11:40 PM (VSenK)
Posted by: James T Kirk at July 21, 2016 11:40 PM (rLrEx)
I'm scared.
- Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) July 22, 2016
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One of her aborted fetuses speaking?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 21, 2016 11:40 PM (R+30W)
I didn't see it...was it really good?
Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (yxupc)
http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/21/ the-full-text-of-donald-trumps -2016-rnc-drafted-speech/
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 11:40 PM (EzgxV)
That has to be a satire Sally Kohn account. Nobody is that stupid.
Posted by: Barky at July 21, 2016 11:39 PM (TOQP1)
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That check mark means it's authentic.
Posted by: iforgot at July 21, 2016 11:41 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 21, 2016 11:41 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Kreplach at July 21, 2016 11:41 PM (7C/kB)
Posted by: orangebreath at July 21, 2016 11:41 PM (F5zRG)
It was so good, the Republicans just got a bigger tent, and it'll last a lot longer than a mere four hours.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 21, 2016 11:41 PM (v5iqM)
I'm not a huge fan of Trump, but I don't think he hates the US; I'll take him a million+ times over that shrill, corrupt fraud known as Hillary.
Posted by: Thrawn at July 21, 2016 11:42 PM (cC/ZB)
Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at July 21, 2016 11:42 PM (yxupc)
Posted by: filbert at July 21, 2016 11:42 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Men in Black at July 21, 2016 11:42 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 21, 2016 11:42 PM (K2T58)
Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at July 21, 2016 11:42 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: 1curiousmind at July 21, 2016 11:42 PM (XxCCS)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
There we go!!! Thanks Jim!
Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at July 21, 2016 11:43 PM (yxupc)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 11:43 PM (mRvs9)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 11:43 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 21, 2016 11:43 PM (bc7LP)
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 21, 2016 11:43 PM (dULJN)
Posted by: Jonathan Swift Junior at July 21, 2016 11:43 PM (+rD/B)
Posted by: orangebreath at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (F5zRG)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (WlGX+)
Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (yxupc)
Yeah, Cooth. Like I'm gonna wade into that.
How about a summary in 10 words or less!
Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at July 21, 2016 11:42 PM (yxupc)
It's worth it -- it takes down Clinton, DC, Dems, and GOPe like an MMA fighter takes down a street punk.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Bruce Jenner at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (ODxAs)
Isn't that an odd song to play right now?!?!
Posted by: 1curiousmind at July 21, 2016 11:42 PM (XxCCS)
I think the point is the next line:
"But if you try sometime, you just might find, you get what you need."
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (fC9RO)
Posted by: Axeman at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (yF+FP)
Certainly not the right atmosphere to enjoy a speech.
Posted by: kzintius at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (Tf8s7)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (rvBm5)
Posted by: TKYC at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (EvxH9)
Posted by: orangebreath at July 21, 2016 11:44 PM (F5zRG)
Yeah... reaching out to those damn Americans... especially the workers...
The bastard....
Posted by: Don Q. at July 21, 2016 11:45 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: Diogenes at July 21, 2016 11:45 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: orangebreath at July 21, 2016 11:45 PM (F5zRG)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 11:45 PM (mRvs9)
Posted by: Fly on duh wall at July 21, 2016 11:45 PM (xeJcb)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 21, 2016 11:45 PM (ucDmr)
It was really good.
He hit on a lot of themes, lot of red meat.
He was coherent and savaged both Hillary and Obama.
And it was unlike any speech I've ever heard a republican give.
Catch phrase: Americanism not globalism.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 21, 2016 11:45 PM (7C/kB)
Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at July 21, 2016 11:45 PM (3ZttN)
Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 11:45 PM (wnwJC)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (qCMvj)
Longest acceptance speech since Bill's, which was about 15 minutes longer.
Haha, they can't call him long-winded or rambley.
Posted by: iforgot at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (VxHD9)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (dULJN)
Posted by: orangebreath at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (F5zRG)
Posted by: orangebreath at July 21, 2016 11:45 PM (F5zRG)
He patted her on the hip.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (fC9RO)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: donna at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (O2RFr)
Isn't that an odd song to play right now?!?!
You get what you need.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 11:46 PM (T/cxb)
As someone who has been anti-trump since the beginning, I have been pretty sure I wouldn't vote for POTUS at all.
An informal poll - and I'm sincere about this:
(I'll watch the speech later or tomorrow)
Did tonight change anyone's mind about not voting for POTUS at all? Staying home? vote Libertarian?
Seriously, did tonight change anyone's mind?
Last thread, a few folks said "he obviously loves America."
Well, sure. And I love that about him. Cankle's loves America too. Where else could she have swindled so much loot from the populace and not be in a dungeon?
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (m1x3q)
Posted by: josephistan at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (77emZ)
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (bMG0w)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (bc7LP)
Posted by: x at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (pUDQf)
It was the most authentic speech I've ever seen at a convention and made me think maybe Trump can drain the swamp
Posted by: Tyler at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (VH1Q/)
Posted by: orangebreath at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (F5zRG)
I've been waiting my entire voting life for a republican to lie to voters like the dems do.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (mRvs9)
Perhaps someone should go check to see if He's alright...... nah...
Posted by: donna at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (O2RFr)
Trump should have chosen Street fighting Man
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (qCMvj)
Pussies need not apply for membership in the Trump Party.
Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (3ZttN)
Did I imagine, or did he pat her on the ass on his way to the podium ?
Posted by: orangebreath
Tomorrow, is Pornhub is going to have a new "Ivanka" category?
Asking for a friend...
Posted by: Oedipus at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (CXLVd)
But anyway - it could have been crap - because as the boss noted earlier - the alternative is evil - not crap, but criminal evil - are we ready to live with that?
I will not willingly give in. I will prepare for it, but will fight in all dark alleys to prevent it.
Posted by: NY/CT Lurker at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (+g2h9)
Posted by: dweeb at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (cxyn3)
Posted by: newrouter at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (uWaCs)
I closed my eyes and "heard" Trump speaking in Hillary's voice. That flat-yet-shrill way she has of using her voice. Same words - different voice. Totally other effect than what Sally experienced.
Buh-leeeve me.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (GajfA)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Hal 9000 at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (zziXn)
Posted by: Bob Dole at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (w35Hj)
He continued to steal oxygen from productive people.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (T/cxb)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: USA at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (tfM+W)
Posted by: Emily at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (QtkD6)
Please immediately restrict all future poll sampling to the Upper West Side of Manhattan and Georgetown.
Thank you.
Posted by: Journ-o-List at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (5xDis)
Posted by: Minnfidrl at July 21, 2016 11:49 PM (aZxzS)
Posted by: Make Gin & Tonic Again at July 21, 2016 11:50 PM (Jh20h)
Posted by: Aahnolt at July 21, 2016 11:50 PM (Q41HP)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at July 21, 2016 11:50 PM (GajfA)
Posted by: Hal 9000 at July 21, 2016 11:50 PM (zziXn)
Posted by: Soona at July 21, 2016 11:50 PM (++ADo)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 21, 2016 11:50 PM (1JnAL)
Trump should have chosen Street fighting Man
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She's So Cold would be more appropriate
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 21, 2016 11:50 PM (K2T58)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (6IPEM)
I'm still a world class pessimist and I'm still not a Trump fan but that was a good speech. I look forward to the wailing and gnashing of teeth from all the usual suspects. I've said it before but my vote for Trump will be a spite vote. I believe, as a nation, were still boned but I won't be dictated to by the post modern left. Fuck em'.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (Fkkg8)
Pussies need not apply for membership in the Trump Party.
Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (3ZttN)
It's stuff like this that make me go back to not giving a crap again. Everyman for themselves.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (xInes)
Has the media recovered from their faint yet?
Posted by: Pick Baggerly at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (7oN1i)
Posted by: dweeb at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (cxyn3)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (6IPEM)
I would have gone with 'We're not gonna take it'
Posted by: Don Q. at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (qf6WZ)
That would mean Hitlery would have to use "Dirty Deeds".
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 11:52 PM (T/cxb)
Posted by: JROD at July 21, 2016 11:52 PM (wnwJC)
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 21, 2016 11:50 PM (K2T58
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I can beat that.
Beast of Burden
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 11:52 PM (6IPEM)
Length: Sound bites.... its for the media buys to come. Fodder y'all. Thiel will have a PAC in battlegrounds, they needed" fresh" material. He's got Months of material now, so do the rest. Craft an EXCELLENT message and hammer away. Unleash the Hounds on the MaliciousDrunken W(B)itch!
And, the "everyone covered this" till the end angle. CAN'T BUY MSM coverage that lets him deliver his message without Bullshit voiceover "guidance" on how to react to said "clip", etc. How many did Donny J reach that tuned into 11 O'clock news to find him still.speakin and stay tuned? Oh, and Georgie S, just did NO propaganda cause THEY HAD TO CUT TO LOCAL NEWS. ABC got fucked an it was AWESOME.
He hit ALL the high points. The NRA segway to Evangelicals was nicely crafted.
GOD AND GUNS.... with that demograhic, 'nough said.
More to come.... need to top off the High Octane.
Evenin Horde of Plenty..... be civil in any disagreements..
The Nuclear Powered BanHammmer lurks.... (graphic budget, anyone?)
Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 21, 2016 11:52 PM (LQE71)
(Beyond the usual, I mean.)
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (77emZ)
He said this on Twitter:
"Trump's speech sounded better in the original German."
Posted by: Thrawn at July 21, 2016 11:52 PM (cC/ZB)
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 21, 2016 11:52 PM (JNRH6)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (kXoT0)
you should drink the makers neat then have ther tears as a chaser. no point in contaminating good booze with liberals.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 21, 2016 11:52 PM (AoSQU)
I liked it. But me and my vote don't count.
It was a credible attempt to attract what's left of normal America.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 21, 2016 11:52 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 21, 2016 11:50 PM (K2T58
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I can beat that.
Beast of Burden
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Bitch
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (K2T58)
Posted by: @votermom at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (7lVbc)
Posted by: dweeb at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (cxyn3)
Less taxes... getting rid of regulation... and cutting unneeded programs in the first 100 days
Posted by: Don Q. at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V. (Brandishing ampersands) at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (P8951)
Posted by: x at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: dweeb at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (cxyn3)
If Hillary wins we can look forward to much better policies?
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (mRvs9)
Posted by: Country Singer at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: Bob Crotchit at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (11rqV)
Posted by: jacke at July 21, 2016 11:54 PM (E0ukh)
Posted by: LawLurker at July 21, 2016 11:54 PM (b2PbZ)
Again: http://preview.tinyurl.com/hmh7tvo
No budget, no problem.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 11:54 PM (T/cxb)
Posted by: Axeman at July 21, 2016 11:54 PM (yF+FP)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 21, 2016 11:54 PM (2cS/G)
The condescension is dripping.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (U6f54)
Posted by: Don Q. at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (qf6WZ)
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He has used that as intro and bumper music at rallies.
Very nice choice
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (6IPEM)
The Republicans blew it.
Posted by: RedStick at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (D9GGD)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Yo! at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (n0xPv)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V. (Brandishing ampersands) at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Buzzion at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (bMG0w)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V. (Brandishing ampersands) at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (P8951)
The Bitch is Back.... Elton John....
Posted by: Don Q. at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (qf6WZ)
Did Trump ever mention smaller government?
Posted by: dweeb at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (cxyn3)
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Yes. First 100 days he gets his department heads to tell him what to cut.
Posted by: iforgot at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: Grumpy old man at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (NPLj5)
I've been waiting my entire voting life for a republican to lie to voters like the dems do.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (mRvs9)
Don't think she called for the government to actually force that by funding it.
It can be done by cutting regulations and letting the market take care of it.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (1JnAL)
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yeah Bitch.
But Julie Andrews had the better line "what is it you cunt face"
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (K2T58)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 21, 2016 11:56 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: @votermom at July 21, 2016 11:56 PM (7lVbc)
Lets all hit the tip jar here hard and often while you still can. this site has given me so much more than I've given back over the years...
Posted by: orangebreath at July 21, 2016 11:56 PM (F5zRG)
Shouldn't you be eating corn dogs and shooting at cops?
Posted by: Country Singer at July 21, 2016 11:56 PM (GUBah)
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Trump just appealed to the democrat voter the modern day progressive has abandoned or driven out of the party.
Posted by: Pick Baggerly at July 21, 2016 11:56 PM (7oN1i)
I dunno. I long ago made a decision to only vote for Constitutional Conservatives. If there wasn't a person resembling one on a ballot, I wouldn't vote. I didn't vote for McCain in '08 because of it. I don't see how I can vote for Trump in '16. The man just has no small, limited government instincts.
I'll be sitting this one out.
Posted by: Rich at July 21, 2016 11:56 PM (ygBCA)
"Trump's speech sounded better in the original German."
Posted by: Thrawn
They used that one on Pat Buchanan in 1992.
Erick Erickson is an ass. Fuck that guy in particular.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 21, 2016 11:56 PM (Cz05v)
Posted by: Fritz at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (vXmOS)
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (kJslv)
Posted by: orangebreath at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (F5zRG)
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (77emZ)
Just got home from practice so...
Did you watch it? Know you'll give an unbiased opinion.
Posted by: teej at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (4aVpH)
Posted by: LawLurker at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (b2PbZ)
Posted by: Milo Yiannopolis at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (1xUj/)
Can the nevertrumpers just admit this is now just about hurt feelings, sour grapes, and ego?
Posted by: Tyler at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (VH1Q/)
Posted by: rgallegos at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (59GQk)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Tyler at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (VH1Q/)
Apparently not.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: josephistan at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Corrupt Media at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (Jh20h)
If Hillary wins we can look forward to much better policies?
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (mRvs9)
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I made the same mistake of responding to dweeb. Don't waste your energy on it.
Posted by: iforgot at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (5o5ek)
"Trump's speech sounded better in the original German."
Oh? Sprechen Sie Douche?
Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (jO7js)
Posted by: Oedipus at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (CXLVd)
When will it stop?
He's too loud.
It's too cold in here.
It's too hot in here!
What's taking the waiter so long with my drink?
Twitter is too slow.
I need my diaper changed. Waaaaaahhhhh!!!
Posted by: National Review Tweets the Convention at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (5xDis)
They should be scared and pissing themselves.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (oBJsb)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (pUDQf)
I'll take #neverHillary coming true and count myself immeasurably blessed.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (nK3L9)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: tbodie at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (xkaSw)
120 Bitch
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 21, 2016 11:53 PM (K2T5
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I hope you mean that affectionately.
Otherwise, put up your dukes.
Fight me.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (6IPEM)
Posted by: Yo! at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (n0xPv)
Posted by: RioBravo at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (oBJsb)
So, in other words, Tuesday.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (kXoT0)
Watching MSNBC....how is this even a network?
Posted by: rgallegos at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (59GQk)
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I tried a few minutes streaming, had to stop. I went there because I lefty-lurked at Daily Kos and they were bitching that Rachel Maddow is a sellout.
Posted by: iforgot at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (5o5ek)
Erick Erickson is an ass. Fuck that guy in particular.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative..
I don't see Erick substitute hosting for Rush in the near future.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (IqV8l)
The condescension is dripping.
Posted by: the littl shyning man
Mark Shields is a Democrat operative masquerading as a "journalist" for all these many years.
Brooks is his piss boy.
Axelrod just saying the building the wall is not popular with the base.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (Cz05v)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: Rich at July 21, 2016 11:56 PM (ygBCA)
Thanks, First Name Guy.
Tell Hillery she's the best with the strap-on. Doesn't matter if you feel that way, just that you do.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 22, 2016 12:00 AM (P/kVC)
Otherwise, put up your dukes.
Fight me.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (6IPEM)
Me too, I have L, Elle's back.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at July 22, 2016 12:00 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (pUDQf)
Exactly.
No President can guarantee to deliver everything he promises; he needs Congress to play ball, and he can't guarantee that they will.
But the speech indicates what he'd LIKE to do, and if he does some fraction of it, well, politics is the realm of the possible.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:00 AM (SRKgf)
Oh? Sprechen Sie Douche?
Oh my gosh. Haven't heard that since mom was alive. I will have start using it.
Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2016 12:00 AM (CTAIz)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 22, 2016 12:00 AM (1CroS)
Trump mentioned lower taxes, less regulation, energy independence,
appointing justices like Scalia, the 2nd amendment, school vouchers,
stronger military etc but otherwise nothing conservative
Can the nevertrumpers just admit this is now just about hurt feelings, sour grapes, and ego?
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He exposes their ass for the world to see over and over and all those losers can do is double down and yell about how important they are.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 22, 2016 12:00 AM (77emZ)
Posted by: x at July 22, 2016 12:00 AM (nFwvY)
The Chamber of Commerce is not the base, Dave.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 22, 2016 12:00 AM (T/cxb)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at July 22, 2016 12:00 AM (kumBu)
Otherwise, put up your dukes.
Fight me.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (6IPEM)
Me too, I have L, Elle's back.
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i'm a lover not a fighter
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (K2T58)
He's gonna own their convention next week.
Posted by: Czar Peter at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (JGNQ+)
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (Fkkg8)
I'll take 3/7ths of what Trump promised and consider it a win.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (pUDQf)
I'll take #neverHillary coming true and count myself immeasurably blessed.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (kXoT0)
He still has to govern. Still has to lead. Four years of pool parties puts us right where we are today.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Corrupt Media at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (Jh20h)
No President can guarantee to deliver everything he promises; he needs Congress to play ball, and he can't guarantee that they will.
But the speech indicates what he'd LIKE to do, and if he does some fraction of it, well, politics is the realm of the possible.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:00 AM (SRKgf)
If he just enforces the damn laws already on the books...
its a win....
Posted by: Don Q. at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (qf6WZ)
Brooks is his piss boy.
Axelrod just saying the building the wall is not popular with the base.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 21, 2016 11:59 PM (Cz05v)
He looks like the piss boy.
Posted by: Count DeMonet at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (1JnAL)
Hillary's speech will sound better in the original Russian.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (SRKgf)
Last thread, a few folks said "he obviously loves America."
Well, sure. And I love that about him. Cankle's loves America too. Where else could she have swindled so much loot from the populace and not be in a dungeon?
Posted by: Chi at July 21, 2016 11:47 PM (m1x3q)
Libya?
I mean, in the old days.
Posted by: BuddyPC at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (mIQJh)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (6IPEM)
Posted by: LawLurker at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (b2PbZ)
Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (wnwJC)
"Trump's speech sounded better in the original German."
Posted by: Thrawn at July 21, 2016 11:52 PM (cC/ZB)
Gleichschaltung uber Alles.
Posted by: BHO at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (FohCt)
Posted by: Hal 9000 at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (zziXn)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (2cS/G)
I admire and believe he is all in to lead Americans to fix our own shit. 90 minutes worth of it.
I've always said it is not Trump per se, but the idea he represents.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (oBJsb)
Turning the Hillary pledge on it's ear was golden as one poster here observed.
Posted by: Max Power at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (QCc6B)
Posted by: Pick Baggerly at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (7oN1i)
Posted by: @votermom at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (7lVbc)
its a win....
Posted by: Don Q. at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (qf6WZ)
Yep. A speech is supposed to indicate what a candidate would LIKE to do, and what the candidate believes in. OK, they often lie, but that's the idea.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (SRKgf)
That check mark means it's authentic.
How does that work?
Posted by: Milo Yiannopolis at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (1xUj/)
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You have to hate the right people.
Posted by: iforgot at July 22, 2016 12:03 AM (5o5ek)
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I remember Shields from the 1992 convention when he said that Reagan wanted to form a "majoritarian Nazi party". I reversed and listened a dozen times to make sure that I had heard him right, that he had used the word "Nazi", and he did.
This is why libs throwing up "Godwin" signs, don't impress me.
Posted by: Axeman at July 22, 2016 12:03 AM (yF+FP)
I was very unhappy when it became clear Trump was the nominee.
My sister is a moderate republican who actually told me she thought Hillary would be preferable. She texted me "he sounds great!"
I gave it a 10.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V. (Brandishing ampersands) at July 22, 2016 12:03 AM (P8951)
I thought Karl Marx was German.
Posted by: Pick Baggerly at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (7oN1i)
He was. I was thinking of Vladimir Ulyanov, aka Lenin.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:03 AM (SRKgf)
I also didn't think it was that dark. I guess if one is an elitist that views the current state of affairs as OK, then it might have seemed dark, but for those of us who believe the times are even shittier than Trump is letting on, the speech seemed pretty normal.
Posted by: Truth at July 22, 2016 12:03 AM (Jb7HG)
Hillary's speech will sound better in the original Russian.
Naw. It'll be better in the original Screech.
Posted by: Hal 9000 at July 22, 2016 12:03 AM (zziXn)
He sounds like he's on bath salts.
Posted by: Bob Crotchit at July 22, 2016 12:03 AM (11rqV)
Posted by: dweeb
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That would rather depend on the extent to which "big gov't" is in fact causing those problems.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 22, 2016 12:03 AM (ANVXm)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (6IPEM) "
Maybe the RATM cover, to get the libs extra mad? Since they're such hardcore lefties (straight out commies, really).
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at July 22, 2016 12:03 AM (kumBu)
Posted by: Country Singer at July 21, 2016 11:56 PM (GUBah)
lol remember that time those cops were murdered?
Posted by: RedStick at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (D9GGD)
In space, no one can hear you scream.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (mRvs9)
Posted by: rgallegos at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (59GQk)
Posted by: NY/CT Lurker at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (+g2h9)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Tyler at July 21, 2016 11:57 PM (VH1Q/)
Some NeverTrumpers don't ignore things he has said in the past that contradicts much of what he's said tonight. But you still insist on calling them names instead of trying to convince them he really means what he's saying now.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 21, 2016 11:58 PM (WVsWD)
This is the same guy that was knob gobbling ethanol producers in Iowa and saying ethanol regulations were fabulous and he wouldn't change a one. He is also the guy who said the IRS is basically fine.
That is the problem with liars... they are not believable even when they are saying what you want to hear.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (4+VII)
Back up much appreciated
Posted by: L, Elle at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (6IPEM)
Oh Rich, if that is your real name, you must have been listening to something other than the speech Trump gave. If you mean what you claim, you would be pleased. So I don't believe you are being honest. Period.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (kJslv)
Really, spontaneous?
All planned. Some Latino babe on CNN is claiming to get texts from Republican congressman ashamed of Trump.
Like they have her number and want to send her texts. What a liar.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 22, 2016 12:05 AM (Cz05v)
its a win....
Posted by: Don Q. at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (qf6WZ)
Yep. A speech is supposed to indicate what a candidate would LIKE to do, and what the candidate believes in. OK, they often lie, but that's the idea.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (SRKgf)
But the President does have the power, through the Attorney General he appoints, to enforce the law.
Point is, he does not need Congress to clean up a lot of the problems we have.... the laws are already on the books, just not enforced.
Posted by: Don Q. at July 22, 2016 12:05 AM (qf6WZ)
KOHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Admiral James T. Kirk at July 22, 2016 12:05 AM (mIQJh)
You sound like "I cannot understand how Nixon could have won. Nobody I know voted for him."
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 22, 2016 12:05 AM (4+VII)
Don't think she called for the government to actually force that by funding it.
It can be done by cutting regulations and letting the market take care of it.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (1JnAL)
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Actually, that is true. I was looking for it, and she didn't say federally-funded. She left it open for whether there would be enough money lying around after Dad's reforms for companies to be able to afford giving a break to working families.
Posted by: iforgot at July 22, 2016 12:05 AM (5o5ek)
Also (((Sally Kohn)))
Posted by: Good Goy at July 21, 2016 11:40 PM (UZUGw)
yep (((sally kohn)))
Posted by: newrouter at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (uWaCs)
Antisemites are our misfortune.
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at July 22, 2016 12:06 AM (FohCt)
Fight me.
Posted by: L, Elle"
Wait a minute. Who was being mean to L'?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 22, 2016 12:06 AM (nK3L9)
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212 Hillary's speech will sound better in the original Russian.
I thought Karl Marx was German.
Posted by: Pick Baggerly at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (7oN1i)
He was. I was thinking of Vladimir Ulyanov, aka Lenin.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:03 AM (SRKgf)
Frau Gruppencankles is more like Stalin, without the shriveled left arm, but with the moustache and Fun Camps.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 22, 2016 12:06 AM (LuZz8)
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Yeah, Vidal did that to WFB, who offered to punch his teeth down his throat if he said it again. WFB had the stuff to do it too.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 22, 2016 12:06 AM (ANVXm)
lot of the problems we have.... the laws are already on the books, just
not enforced.
Posted by: Don Q. at July 22, 2016 12:05 AM (qf6WZ)
Yep.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:07 AM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Taiwan_Joe at July 22, 2016 12:07 AM (EhEFW)
https://twitter.com/EmpireOfJeff
Posted by: andycanuck at July 22, 2016 12:07 AM (RmrGn)
I thought Karl Marx was German.
Posted by: Pick Baggerly at July 22, 2016 12:02 AM (7oN1i)
Hill is a Stalinist.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 22, 2016 12:07 AM (P/kVC)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 22, 2016 12:07 AM (MNgU2)
That would mean Hitlery would have to use "Dirty Deeds".
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 21, 2016 11:52 PM (T/cxb)
Love it.
Posted by: Texas Zombie at July 22, 2016 12:07 AM (SUtNI)
really connected in a good old fashioned way. A nice finish.///
Tepid as compared to what Republican Prez candidate in the last 20 years?
Posted by: Willy J. at July 22, 2016 12:07 AM (mRvs9)
Brooks is his piss boy."
+10
Posted by: Thos. Sutpen, Jr. at July 22, 2016 12:07 AM (df8p8)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 22, 2016 12:07 AM (Cz05v)
Posted by: GrapeDrink at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (Wt+M2)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V. (Brandishing ampersands) at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (P8951)
Posted by: Skunky Choom at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (CbGSW)
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (kJslv)
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His daughter talked about the wage gap, he specifically said he wouldn't allow companies to leave the country. Those were his words.
I didn't just make them up out of thin air. So, great try, captain.
He's a big government, liberal Republican. He's pretty much in line with John McCain, minus the uber-hawkishness. Government solves societal ills, he believes.
I had no problem not pulling the lever for McCain and I'll have none now for Trump.
Small government, constitutional conservatives for me and that's it.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (ygBCA)
Posted by: GrapeDrink at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (Wt+M2)
So we've lost the ambulatory pussy life support system demographic.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (SRKgf)
Posted by: JROD at July 22, 2016 12:09 AM (wnwJC)
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Exactly.
blame Mick and Keith
Posted by: Rick in SK at July 22, 2016 12:09 AM (K2T58)
Posted by: GrapeDrink at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (Wt+M2)
When you've lost Meggy Mac, you've lost Meggy Mac. And Allahpundit.
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at July 22, 2016 12:09 AM (FohCt)
Posted by: RedStick at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (D9GGD)
Thanks for confirming my suspicion that it was something that you enjoyed.
Posted by: Country Singer at July 22, 2016 12:09 AM (GUBah)
Just in case anyone was wondering.
Posted by: Skunky Choom at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (CbGSW)
Like the farad, too big a unit. Maybe the microkohn would be a better choice.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:10 AM (SRKgf)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at July 22, 2016 12:10 AM (kumBu)
pretty much in line with John McCain, minus the uber-hawkishness.
Government solves societal ills, he believes.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (ygBCA)
Trump is a liberal progressive masquerading as a Republican.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:10 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: teej at July 22, 2016 12:11 AM (4aVpH)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 22, 2016 12:11 AM (P/kVC)
Isn't that an odd song to play right now?!?!
They played it yesterday while waiting for him to land, too. I thought it was perfect. With all the haters, you may not like Trump, but you sure do need him.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue at July 22, 2016 12:11 AM (ZXK8H)
This is the same guy that was knob gobbling ethanol producers in Iowa and saying ethanol regulations were fabulous and he wouldn't change a one.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (9dfKD)
Yes, let's bring up ethanol for reasons why Hillary should be our next President
A typical Cruz Superfan that is still bitter
Posted by: Tyler at July 22, 2016 12:11 AM (VH1Q/)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V. (Brandishing ampersands) at July 22, 2016 12:11 AM (P8951)
Posted by: LawLurker at July 22, 2016 12:01 AM (b2PbZ)
Actually, Ben Hur 1959 was already a remake.
Posted by: BuddyPC at July 22, 2016 12:11 AM (mIQJh)
Posted by: Truth at July 22, 2016 12:12 AM (Jb7HG)
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:10 AM (9dfKD)
Whereas Hillary is a Marxist authoritarian masquerading as a liberal progressive, i.e., a Marxist Lite.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:12 AM (SRKgf)
Like an ER Doc, he's getting burned out by seeing the loss of humanity all over the place. He's really a mensch for having lasting 12 years already.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at July 22, 2016 12:12 AM (kumBu)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 22, 2016 12:13 AM (2cS/G)
A little warm hearted nationalism is a GOOD thing, and it's validating to have a non-globalist reiterate what you are thinking.
The globalist intelligencia hate us and want to see us dead. Voting for Trump is kind of increasingly seeming the sane option.
Posted by: Max Power at July 22, 2016 12:13 AM (QCc6B)
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (ygBCA)
Yes, his daughter talked about the wage gap, and how the difference was MOTHERHOOD... which is true.... if you bothered to listen she said that single women are making 94% of what Men are...
And he said he would not let American companies leave this country 'without consequence'.... which is different from not allowing them to leave at all...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 22, 2016 12:13 AM (qf6WZ)
Yeah, I know. But never before with 100% more political correctness and women and minorities. Maybe Caesar can be black. Or African-Roman, whatever...
Posted by: LawLurker at July 22, 2016 12:14 AM (b2PbZ)
Posted by: Truth at July 22, 2016 12:12 AM (Jb7HG)
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Would you be less annoyed if a superscript 2 were added to the T to give it more heft and significance?
Posted by: RioBravo at July 22, 2016 12:15 AM (NUqwG)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at July 22, 2016 12:15 AM (kumBu)
A typical Cruz Superfan that is still bitter
Posted by: Tyler at July 22, 2016 12:11 AM (VH1Q/)
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Wait, he said nothing about Cruz. Being against federal government subsidies picking winners and losers is now only attributable to "cruz superfans." Not just a general conservative pillar anymore?
Yea, like I said, y'all can see if you can pull the big government progressive across the finish line without me. I used to think we were largely on the same, limited government side. I guess not.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:16 AM (ygBCA)
Is that an issue in the gay community or the conservative gay community or a non-political sub section of the gay community?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 22, 2016 12:16 AM (MNgU2)
No Rich, he didn't say those words. It might be how you heard them, but you heard them wrong.
He was talking about fascists who use trade deals to enrich themselves, which is the heart of Gope. Gope must die. Trump signaled the end of the uniparty privileged class, and I understand why some people are scared of that.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2016 12:17 AM (kJslv)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 22, 2016 12:18 AM (zOTsN)
This is the same guy that was knob gobbling ethanol producers in Iowa and saying ethanol regulations were fabulous and he wouldn't change a one.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:04 AM (9dfKD)
Yes, let's bring up ethanol for reasons why Hillary should be our next President
A typical Cruz Superfan that is still bitter
Posted by: Tyler at July 22, 2016 12:11 AM (VH1Q/)
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The ethanol issue showed immediately that Trump is a big govt liberal on many issues. It's certainly something to take into consideration if you are a conservative trying to decide if you will vote for him or just stay home.
Posted by: dweeb at July 22, 2016 12:18 AM (cxyn3)
the Q addition is apparently considered mainstream enough to make it
into a Republican convention speech.
Posted by: Truth at July 22, 2016 12:12 AM (Jb7HG)
Do you really expect normal people (non-pejorative sense) to keep track of all the Balkanized sexual proclivities and their designations, which change on a hebdomadal basis?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:18 AM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Truth at July 22, 2016 12:12 AM (Jb7HG)
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I think I like the 'Q's better than the 'T's. At least there is still a little bit of hope for the 'Q's. The 'T's are just self-mutilation whackos (pun intended).
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2016 12:18 AM (R+30W)
The Republicans blew it.
Posted by: RedStick at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (D9GGD)"
WTF? Joking, right?
Posted by: Bonnie Blue at July 22, 2016 12:18 AM (ZXK8H)
Posted by: Don Q. at July 22, 2016 12:13 AM (qf6WZ)
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Lol. You guys wanna split hairs that fine to defend his stance, that's your thing. Neither version is conservative. So, have at it.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:18 AM (ygBCA)
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Man his line about preventing businesses from leaving really fucking sucked donkey ass.
I dunno. I long ago made a decision to only vote for Constitutional
Conservatives. If there wasn't a person resembling one on a ballot, I
wouldn't vote. I didn't vote for McCain in '08 because of it. I don't
see how I can vote for Trump in '16. The man just has no small, limited
government instincts.
I'll be sitting this one out.
Posted by: Rich at July 21, 2016 11:56 PM (ygBCA)
Besides you being a concern troll, I thought it was very interestingly nuanced. He said "I am not going to let companies move to other countries, firing their employees along the way, without consequences." What might those consequences be?
Things like, "if you pack up your factory and move out of the country, your ex-employees are released from any anti-compete agreements"? How 'bout, "trade secrets that are developed as an American taxpayer cease to be protected by American law if you remove yourself from American jurisdiction"?
It was a subtle statement, it was a businessman's statement, it was an American patriot's statement, and it had nothing to do with Constitutional Conservatism.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2016 12:19 AM (EzgxV)
I've been waiting my entire voting life for a republican to lie to voters like the dems do.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 21, 2016 11:48 PM (mRvs9)
Don't think she called for the government to actually force that by funding it.
It can be done by cutting regulations and letting the market take care of it.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 21, 2016 11:55 PM (1JnAL)
Feeding into Democratic bullshit by pretending their fake problems are real (in the case of the statistically nonexistent "wage gap") and calling for the government interfere more in family life (it is not the government's damn business to take notice or interfere with families' day care decisions even if they aren't stealing my money to do so) is not conservative... not be a long shot.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:19 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 22, 2016 12:19 AM (mRvs9)
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Would that be a power issue or an issue with a multiplication effect?
Posted by: RioBravo at July 22, 2016 12:19 AM (NUqwG)
Like Trump wanting to cut taxes and cut regulation? And repeal Obamacare? Pro 2nd amendment School Vouchers etc
But yea, I guess better border enforcement is not a smaller government solution, I didnt know corporations were supposed to enforce our immigration laws
Posted by: Tyler at July 22, 2016 12:19 AM (VH1Q/)
If I'm reading him right , he agrees with you.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 22, 2016 12:20 AM (MNgU2)
I am trying to let all of you know that "normal" people who would otherwise be counted on to deliver votes to preserve our Country are going to either sit this one out or vote for The VaJayJay (did I get that snark reference right?)
Posted by: NY/CT Lurker at July 22, 2016 12:20 AM (+g2h9)
Tell Hillary we said "Hey." Also, good luck with the indictments.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:20 AM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 22, 2016 12:20 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: GrapeDrink at July 22, 2016 12:08 AM (Wt+M2)
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RIP, the People Pretending to be Republicans Party.
Posted by: Axeman at July 22, 2016 12:21 AM (yF+FP)
He was talking about fascists who use trade deals to enrich themselves, which is the heart of Gope. Gope must die. Trump signaled the end of the uniparty privileged class, and I understand why some people are scared of that.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 22, 2016 12:17 AM (kJslv)
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In this case the "fascists" are the private companies, right? And he did say that, btw. There would be "consequences" for companies who moved overseas ,he said.
Yea, sorry...not my thing.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:21 AM (ygBCA)
out of the country, your ex-employees are released from any anti-compete
agreements"? How 'bout, "trade secrets that are developed as an
American taxpayer cease to be protected by American law if you remove
yourself from American jurisdiction"?
It was a subtle statement,
it was a businessman's statement, it was an American patriot's
statement, and it had nothing to do with Constitutional Conservatism.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2016 12:19 AM (EzgxV)
How about, why the hell would conservatives be any more OK with the government abrogating private contracts like that than we are with economy killing tariffs?
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:22 AM (9dfKD)
I say, "Let's bring out the good champagne!"
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 22, 2016 12:23 AM (1CroS)
The threat of consequences goes against my definition of freedom.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 22, 2016 12:23 AM (MNgU2)
If I'm reading him right , he agrees with you.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 22, 2016 12:20 AM (MNgU2)
Maybe, but not clear. The point is that these fine distinctions that those involved feel so acutely are lost on those who are not involved. Basically, Trump tried to reach out to these people, however they may define/refer to themselves this week.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:23 AM (SRKgf)
He didn't make fun of anybody's wife.
He didn't make fun of anyone's face.
He didn't make fun of any disabled people.
He didn't mock any POWs.
He didn't call Mexicans "rapists".
He avoided talking about menstruation.
He didn't say judges sign bills.
He didn't mention his desire to order the military to violate the Geneva Convention.
He steered clear of discussing his policy of murdering the innocent family members of suspected terrorists.
Very presidential!
Posted by: Bob Crotchit at July 22, 2016 12:23 AM (11rqV)
Posted by: RioBravo at July 22, 2016 12:23 AM (NUqwG)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 22, 2016 12:23 AM (MNgU2)
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Free to pay a tariff.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 22, 2016 12:25 AM (NUqwG)
government abrogating private contracts like that than we are with
economy killing tariffs?///
Recognizing how current US policy drives jobs out of our country is a conservative belief.
Posted by: Willy J. at July 22, 2016 12:25 AM (mRvs9)
Like Trump wanting to cut taxes and cut regulation? And repeal Obamacare? Pro 2nd amendment School Vouchers etc
But yea, I guess better border enforcement is not a smaller government solution, I didnt know corporations were supposed to enforce our immigration laws
Posted by: Tyler at July 22, 2016 12:19 AM (VH1Q/)
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Eh, I don't forget Trump saying a few months back that the mandate was a good thing. I guess you do. Good for you.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:25 AM (ygBCA)
Hence the moral bankruptcy of conservatism .
Posted by: Make America Great Again at July 22, 2016 12:26 AM (BS8yt)
One yanks, and the other talks. Synchronicity.
The third can't talk, with his mouth full, of course.
Y'all take your charade of a circus somewhere down the road, where the gullible await.
What yer sellin' ain't bein' bout 'round heah.
No, Trump's not the messiah.
But none of you are conservatism's prophet, either. Not with the mouthfulla cocks your talking with, anyway.
Go vote
If results indeed matter, your results would be the polar opposite of every argument you claim to champion here.
That's fact, not hyperbole.
Teh Horde is all in all, far smarter and more insightful than your best efforts to deceive. So, why don't y'all take a hike to places you're more likely to find a welcome?
I'd suggest your local YMCA. You can hang out with all the boys.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2016 12:26 AM (v5iqM)
Posted by: IC at July 22, 2016 12:27 AM (KTFfX)
out of the country, your ex-employees are released from any anti-compete
agreements"? How 'bout, "trade secrets that are developed as an
American taxpayer cease to be protected by American law if you remove
yourself from American jurisdiction"?
It was a subtle statement,
it was a businessman's statement, it was an American patriot's
statement, and it had nothing to do with Constitutional Conservatism.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 22, 2016 12:19 AM (EzgxV)
How
about, why the hell would conservatives be any more OK with the
government abrogating private contracts like that than we are with
economy killing tariffs?
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:22 AM (9dfKD)
This really, really torques me... How would you react to your employer trying to bind your employment by getting a law passed that doubles your taxes or confiscates your house if you change employers?
You would be fucking outraged and reaching for pitchforks and torches.
So why do you think its OK to steal from business owners and abrogate their rights because they are making decisions to move where it is adventitious.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:27 AM (9dfKD)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 22, 2016 12:23 AM (MNgU2)
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No, no, you're just concern trolling, you see.
It's a now conservative staple to threaten consequences against private corporations who relocate their business.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:27 AM (ygBCA)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 22, 2016 12:27 AM (Fbj4h)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 22, 2016 12:23 AM (MNgU2)
Some of you guys really don't get it. When Gunny Hartman said, "I'll rip off your head and shit down your neck," did he mean that, literally? How about, "I'll gouge out your eyes and skull fuck you;" did he mean that, literally?
He was staking a position, and informing others of where he stood.
I'm embarrassed I have to explain this.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 22, 2016 12:28 AM (SRKgf)
Posted by: vivi at July 22, 2016 12:31 AM (11H2y)
One yanks, and the other talks. Synchronicity.
The third can't talk, with his mouth full, of course.
Y'all take your charade of a circus somewhere down the road, where the gullible await.
What yer sellin' ain't bein' bout 'round heah.
No, Trump's not the messiah.
But none of you are conservatism's prophet, either. Not with the mouthfulla cocks your talking with, anyway.
Go vote independent for Hitlery, and take your self-righteous preening prideful selves over to Move On, where you belong.
If results indeed matter, your results would be the polar opposite of every argument you claim to champion here.
That's fact, not hyperbole.
Teh Horde is all in all, far smarter and more insightful than your best efforts to deceive. So, why don't y'all take a hike to places you're more likely to find a welcome?
I'd suggest your local YMCA. You can hang out with all the boys.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2016 12:26 AM (v5iqM)
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We'll see how serious Ace is about sticking to his no personal attacks policy.
Someone insults your hero, you lose your shit.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:31 AM (ygBCA)
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well what exactly is the government stealing ?
Posted by: Make America Great Again at July 22, 2016 12:31 AM (BS8yt)
It is an issue in the gay community. The gay political groups have almost all joined in on the alphabet salad ( LGBTQIAXYZ) nonsense, but a lot of regular gays don't understand why they are they being lumped in with people who want to chop their dicks off and pretend they are the opposite sex. I've talked to a lot of gays about this, including a lot of "Yaas! Queen" Hillary supporters that are more moderate Dems than true Marxists, and basically, only a few of the younger, SJW gays like the T. The comments the others make on the issue make Free Republic sound tolerant. LOL.
Posted by: Truth at July 22, 2016 12:32 AM (Jb7HG)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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And, damn! Mine is full of spiders who want revenge on me!
Posted by: RKae at July 22, 2016 12:32 AM (aFQtB)
Good luck with that message, I'm sure Apple has your back
Posted by: Tyler at July 22, 2016 12:32 AM (VH1Q/)
Hence the moral bankruptcy of conservatism .
Posted by: Make America Great Again at July 22, 2016 12:26 AM (BS8yt)
It isn't those businesses that are morally bankrupt (at least not for moving their businesses).
If you are unwilling to leave other their freedom, you are undeserving of it yourself.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:33 AM (9dfKD)
He really pissed them off.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2016 12:33 AM (8HGb7)
Posted by: vivi at July 22, 2016 12:34 AM (11H2y)
Good luck with that message, I'm sure Apple has your back
Posted by: Tyler at July 22, 2016 12:32 AM (VH1Q/)
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You're just making shit up hoping it might be right.
No one is supporting Hillary. Cruz was my FIFTH choice.
I know these are hard facts to accept, but that's not my problem.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:34 AM (ygBCA)
Posted by: NY/CT Lurker at July 22, 2016 12:36 AM (+g2h9)
Posted by: Yankee_Doodler at July 22, 2016 12:36 AM (XmkaW)
Posted by: MSM plagiarism checker at July 22, 2016 12:37 AM (vfC/C)
Posted by: Tyler at July 22, 2016 12:37 AM (VH1Q/)
You're just making shit up hoping it might be right.
No one is supporting Hillary. Cruz was my FIFTH choice.
I know these are hard facts to accept, but that's not my problem.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 12:34 AM (ygBCA)
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Trumpers just repeat shit, just like libs.
Posted by: Axeman at July 22, 2016 12:38 AM (yF+FP)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 22, 2016 12:38 AM (mRvs9)
This idea that China not getting free trade with the US is unconstitutional is revisionist bullshit
Posted by: Tyler at July 22, 2016 12:39 AM (VH1Q/)
Hillary and the Global Left have Islam, criminal illegal border crossers and squatters, Wall Street, and the pundits, and the fringe of the fringe. Nice tent losers.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 22, 2016 12:40 AM (oBJsb)
I'll accept Ace's ban, as I damn well chose to earn it in your case, if need be. Your concern troll vaudeville act needs the hook, all the same.
But I'll clue you in to something you didn't know about me here.
I can post up my pics with Sen. Cruz leading up to his Presidential Bid, as I was that solidly in his corner and am still of the opinion that he'd have been a superb Commander in Chief.
But. He. Didn't. Win.
Trump did, and furthermore, Trump knocked tonight's speech not only out of the park, but all the way into next week's Dem convention, where they'll make a fielding error on the play.
As for you?
You're just a concern troll, contributing nothing of value, only snark, criticism and abject condescension.
You're not in a superior moral position, no matter your posing to the contrary.
You're not in a superior intellectual position, as evinced by your own declarations.
And you're no longer relevant to the argument, as your time was officially and formally passed with Mr. Trump's having formally accepted the GOP nomination as their Candidate for the Presidency.
All of your arguments were germane to the primaries, had lingering but diminishing value up to and through the rules committee fights, and haven't the value of the fart of a flea, since then.
You're now just of less value than a hobo beating his head against the wall, and more harmful to others, withal.
In short, you've become but a boor, with all the bad manners and poor reputation that accompanies such an appellation.
I might end up banned, but you need to leave here with your head hung in shame and uselessness.
There is no more value to your keyboard eruptions, and more such can but add to your embarrassment.
Again. Go find places you'll find a greater welcome.
Otherwise, you're only annoying people here of far better mind and character than you.
I might be the least of them, but the most vocal.
That's okay. I'll take my lumps, to see you out the door and over the threshold.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2016 12:44 AM (v5iqM)
good, tough, speech. unfortunately, held back by shouty delivery. Could have used a couple more jokes. Methinks Trump will have more work to do with voters who want "a steady hand" in the oval office. Team Trump should make it widely known Donald never touches alcohol as a testimate to his diciplined lifestyle; while thier opponent is a ragging alcoholic.
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 22, 2016 12:44 AM (ADIwO)
Posted by: Willy J. at July 22, 2016 12:38 AM (mRvs9)
And yet Trump is not advocating for cutting all of those things. I guess its more emotionally satisfying for bullies to threaten than to recognize and acknowledge that Government is the freaking problem.
For the record, even if none of the things the US govt does to fuck up markets existed, it would still be a businessman's fundamental right to handle his company as he damn well pleases within contract law and fraud statutes. Business owners do not exist to create jobs. They exist to create profits. The jobs are a nice side effect that, in a free market, benefits both parties in a labor purchase but it is no one's due.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:48 AM (9dfKD)
If you are unwilling to leave other their freedom, you are undeserving of it yourself.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 12:33 AM (9dfKD)
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I'll stand by what I said conservatism is morally bankrupt, it's only purpose now is to keep certain pundits and writers employed .
Posted by: Make America Great Again at July 22, 2016 12:53 AM (BS8yt)
We get it. We have gotten it for some time now.
Got anything else?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 22, 2016 12:56 AM (WVsWD)
If I might tackle that argument though, the issue is duo fold, in that if Trump succeeds in the substantial reduction of red tape, taxes and other government overhead, the numbers of companies choosing relocations overseas for tax and regulatory relief, should fall to the number of statistical noise.
But in today's governmental environment, I'm with you, in finding these companies wise in ducking out from under the hammer of Big Brother, should they choose that course of action.
Trump might not have made the most eloquent case for his argument in the few sentences he devoted to the point in his speech, but I do surmise that he'd first seek to remove the base motivation of these companies following the expat path.
And that, I think, is the real core of the argument, libertarian purity notwithstanding.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2016 12:59 AM (v5iqM)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at July 22, 2016 12:59 AM (BS8yt)
Thanks for the info. I somewhat assumed that was the case .
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 22, 2016 01:01 AM (MNgU2)
Posted by: donna at July 22, 2016 01:04 AM (O2RFr)
1. They go to a cheap labor, most of the time 3rd world country, yet keep their HQ in the U.S. This bothers me because they want the freedom, military and legal protection of the U.S., just not the labor. If they have large factories overseas they should should be forced to leave the country and set their HQ somewhere else and give up America entirely.
2. They have loyalty problems to American national security and interests. For example - if they have factories in China they tend to support leaving China alone on things like hacking other American companies and national security secrets. They use their money to support politicians who don't want to do anything about China, even when China is threatening us with war.
3. They not only use their money to influence American politicians to keep the tariffs low for their products coming into the country. They also make darn sure to keep the regulations going on American companies still in America, especially newer companies who might challenge them. So they bribe foreign countries to keep regulations and taxes low for them there, yet push for regulations at home to keep potential competition down. Notice how Amazon has never seen a regulation or tax they don't like. Wonder why?
So free trade and foreign factories has not turned into more freedom at home, just created a crooked system imported in from other parts of the world.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 22, 2016 01:05 AM (KhJh8)
about kith or kin. Let's order our society around the lowest, it's the
conservative thing to do, it'll make the NRO crowd happy and keep them
employed.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at July 22, 2016 12:59 AM (BS8yt)
I am sure you will be happy then for the Government to take more of your shit when they find you insufficiently caring of the needs of complete strangers that think it their right to lay claim to your time, resources and cash?
Posted by: redbanzai at July 22, 2016 01:14 AM (9dfKD)
A. I've been waiting my entire voting life for a republican to lie to voters like the dems do.
Posted by: scoville unit at July 22, 2016 01:18 AM (0adl+)
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2016 01:24 AM (sdi6R)
Reasonable concerns but I disagree with your analysis.
Let's say you open a lemonade stand. Your price for lemonade is capped by what people are willing to pay for it. Period.
So you have a choice: get your costs low enough to produce lemonade at a price people will pay or go out of business.
Now, you are the only employee to start off with. You don't pay yourself because you want to grow to put the money you make into growing the business and your rent gets paid by your parents or something. So you have zero actual cash income. Guess what- the government disagrees. Let's say you sell it for a dollar per glass and your cost is 70 cents. 30 cents goes to buying a machine so you can increase your volume without recurring labor expenses. If your machine cost more than $500, the government doesn't consider it an expense. You must pay tax on the $500 you used from company income... along with any other penny you reinvest.
Eventually, you realize you can't work 7 days a week because eventually you'll get sick or want to get laid or something. So you hire someone. Well, the government says you have to pay them minimum wage, which they now want to be $15/ hour. Does that mean your cost is $15? Nope. You also have to pay 6.2% social security and 1.45% Medicare and UI, which can be up to 6%, on top. You also (in most states) now have to pay workers comp insurance (which is insanely expensive) and, one you open up enough stands to have 50 employees, provide health insurance. In some states, your also required to provide paid time off and other benefits. You also need to deal with payroll and ensure that tax deposits are made within 3 days after every payday, file the appropriate reports every payday and quarter, and are subject to giant fines and penalties if your employee decides that you looked at him/ her funny, paying them unfairly, or you fire them for sleeping on the job. So, you really need to hire someone to make sure all this shit is done right or you will be bankrupted for the sin of giving someone a job.
... or you could order everything from China and have none of these problems and provide the same product at half the cost.
The reason people are "taking American jobs" overseas or hiring illegals is because the government and employees are making it increasingly impossible to do business here. It has nothing to do with "greed" or "1%ers" or "evil excess profits".
Your customers aren't willing to pay more but those same people are demanding more from their employers and voting the government more power to get it for them. That is the problem.
Posted by: Damiano at July 22, 2016 01:33 AM (71OEY)
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2016 12:44 AM (v5iqM)
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Jesus Christ I don't know if I've ever seen a person so convinced of their own self-importance in posting in a comments section.
As for me leaving, I've been visiting this site for the better part of 8 years. You writing a self-indulgent novel length comment isn't going to change that.
You might, however, have gotten yourself banned. Which would ultimately make this night successful.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 01:35 AM (ygBCA)
Posted by: Obamaisacommunist at July 22, 2016 01:36 AM (AnkaJ)
Posted by: Sexypig at July 22, 2016 01:42 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Sexypig at July 22, 2016 01:47 AM (dZQh7)
I might be the least of them, but the most vocal.
That's okay. I'll take my lumps, to see you out the door and over the threshold.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2016 12:44 AM (v5iqM)
Well said, Jim!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 22, 2016 01:50 AM (GSdpU)
Posted by: Obamaisacommunist at July 22, 2016 01:50 AM (AnkaJ)
Posted by: Sexypig at July 22, 2016 01:58 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 22, 2016 02:03 AM (VlLSC)
Your customers aren't willing to pay more but those same people are demanding more from their employers and voting the government more power to get it for them. That is the problem.
Posted by: Damiano at July 22, 2016 01:33 AM (71OEY)
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That part is true, but now the cycle is self generating so even if you attempted to lower taxes, or regulations you will not get a lot of support from big corporations. Why? Because those corporations have found a way to influence big government and make it work for them.
So a big company can hire former regulators and lawyers to get through the regulations, but a smaller company cannot. Once you have set up a lot of factories overseas it is not in you economic interests to change the situation in America. If America lowered corporate tax rates, or removed lots of regulations, etc. it would mean their overseas factories would no longer be as profitable counting shipping and energy costs. Also moving back to America would cost money, building new factories, etc.
It is always better to keep status que when you are a big fish on top, company or nation.
Also America cannot compete with a country who offers a dollar a day for work. Those are countries where life is cheap and poverty great. No one in their right mind wants that in America in order to compete with Cambodia, so the only option is tariffs to equalize that aspect out. An election slogan of Make America Cambodia so we can compete is not going to get more than the staff of NR to vote for you.
The solution:
1. Low taxes at home for corporations/business
2. Lots of energy production to keep energy prices low and available for business expansion.
3. Tariffs on incoming products to equal out 3rd world cheap labor costs (we will never be Cambodia)
4. Reduce regulations to help reduce costs and power of lawyers
5. Simplify tax code to reduce power of lawyers and accountants
6. Simplify legal codes to reduce power of lawyers
7. Fine companies who keep their HQ here in America yet production somewhere else. Force them to choose loyalties.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 22, 2016 02:10 AM (KhJh8)
C'mon people. That was just a red meat panderfest; throwing a chunk to every group his minions could think of. I guess we're all supposed to forget that he's a giant douchenozzle that knows very little about anything that doesn't directly involve either making him money or getting him laid.
Posted by: Vinny Gambini at July 22, 2016 02:11 AM (UOltV)
Rich,
The BanHammer has a highly attuned filter mechanism that is adjusted to judge the CONTEXT, Logic, erudition of stated arguments, etc, etc, etc....in any given thread. Ace's metrics are his and his alone. His House, His Rules. Just a newbie observation.
I've found a worthy rebuttal to be a detailed dismantling of the opposition's argument. Use logic and reason to PERSUADE another to the Validity of your viewpoint. Repeat as necessary.
If that fails....fuck em. Why engage? It's a waste of your time. Time to move on.
It ain't personal.... It's the internet. IMHO, that's all.
Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 22, 2016 02:19 AM (LQE71)
3. Tariffs on incoming products to equal out 3rd world cheap labor costs (we will never be Cambodia)
7. Fine companies who keep their HQ here in America yet production somewhere else. Force them to choose loyalties.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 22, 2016 02:10 AM (KhJh
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It's the Herbert Hoover platform all over again.
At least we are getting things out in the open. Prior to this election cycle I just assumed almost every self-avowed conservative or Republican was pro-free trade. I know better now.
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 02:21 AM (ygBCA)
If that fails....fuck em. Why engage? It's a waste of your time. Time to move on.
It ain't personal.... It's the internet. IMHO, that's all.
Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 22, 2016 02:19 AM (LQE71)
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I know he won't get banned. It's whatever.
As for rebutting his argument, there was nothing to rebut. His entire comment was basically that I and some other guys who were echoing a similar view had cocks in our mouth.
Just not a whole lot to say to that other than, no I don't???
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 02:24 AM (ygBCA)
Posted by: Rich at July 22, 2016 02:21 AM (ygBCA)
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How's that working out for you 'conservatives", oh BYW, what have conservatives done for American jobs besides losing them, ever in history?
Posted by: Him at July 22, 2016 02:33 AM (2PHJ8)
Posted by: Him at July 22, 2016 02:33 AM (2PHJ
"
Have you ever heard of this place called Texas, where conservatives get the hell out of the way of free trade, and jobs happen?
Posted by: Dustin at July 22, 2016 02:56 AM (orEnP)
How many times are you going to cut and paste this? What's your solution? Vote for the Felon? Trump and his family are accomplished, smart, and poised unlike your lame put-down. Go to bed.
Posted by: Kaldar at July 22, 2016 03:57 AM (TQXeh)
Posted by: TriggerWarning at July 22, 2016 04:01 AM (DncGp)
Posted by: TriggerWarning at July 22, 2016 04:29 AM (DncGp)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 21, 2016 11:40 PM (R+30W)
I'm not willing to bet that she's ever seen a penis.
Posted by: DFCtomm at July 22, 2016 07:35 AM (xmQSf)
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Posted by: CartmanFest at July 22, 2016 07:38 AM (Y0yhh)
>262
Oy vey! The goyim know, shut it down! Why does every Jewish writer from every liberal rag call Donald the next Hitler? It is almost as if there were a coordinated attack across all mainstream media, like if they had a list, a list of journalists......hmmm really makes you think.
Posted by: Good Goy at July 22, 2016 09:14 AM (SuGsU)
Posted by: Bob at July 22, 2016 09:39 AM (OUaW7)
Posted by: Axeman at July 22, 2016 09:52 AM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 22, 2016 09:59 AM (txdEq)
Posted by: Rose at July 22, 2016 10:48 AM (JsUMr)
And the occasional howling of a cat. I hate it when they get pulled in. All claws and fur.
Posted by: HiHo at July 22, 2016 11:02 AM (CPk08)
How many times are you going to cut and paste this? What's your solution? Vote for the Felon? Trump and his family are accomplished, smart, and poised unlike your lame put-down. Go to bed.
Posted by: Kaldar at July 22, 2016 03:57 AM (TQXeh)
Since I had just typed it for the first time just last night, I'm going to go with "never."
I've had my fill of megalomaniacal narcissists with a savior complex. Trump is a whiter Obama with worse hair. Spit out the Kool-aid. It's poisoned.
Didn't you hear Ivanka claim that through her father, all your hopes and dreams are possible? You may want to check out Matthew 19:26. That's where she lifted it from.
Posted by: Vinny Gambini at July 22, 2016 12:22 PM (7JOec)
Are the Trump Haters finally willing to take a second look at Trump?
Wake me me when commonsense kicks in.
(I know better than to think that Trump Haters will suddenly realize that he is a good and decent man - as testified [AND WITHOUT FUCKING EXCEPTION] by the many multiples of people who have dealt with him personally - who loves his country and his fellow citizen.)
Posted by: Testy Stoic Trumpublican at July 22, 2016 12:26 PM (AhiRu)
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You just might find
You get what you need.
So far as hearing in a vacuum, sound might not travel in a vacuum but assuming rapid depressurization, you'll hear all kinds sounds conducted within your body as fluids and tissues erupt from various orifices.
Posted by: Pat Umaporn at July 22, 2016 01:07 PM (kN6dQ)
There is no pretense in Donald Trump. - - - NONE.
Say whatever else you like about The Donald: but if you call him a fake, then you are either clueless or yourself a fuckin' liar.
This morning, Trump let it be known in unambiguous detail that it was the Cruz camp who fired the first ugly shot in maligning Melania Trump.
THEY (Cruz people) are the ones who gave their silent endorsement of that vicious attack on a prominent candidate's wife.
Cruz has a screw loose.
I didn't see that early on. (I was a BIG TIME early Cruz advocate.)
But now observing the whack-job, Cruz, feign wounded honor over a fight HIS people started and which he refused to acknowledge (let alone denounce): tells you this guy is out of touch with reality.
I am beginning to think Cruz just might be the shamelessly philandering pussy-hound (cheating on his wife many multiple times with several women) he has been reported as being.
- We've already had one of those in the White House.
We don't need a Republican version of that foul shit.
Thank you very much.
Posted by: Testy Stoic Trumpublican at July 22, 2016 01:44 PM (AhiRu)
Posted by: unseen at July 22, 2016 02:25 PM (6ez2Z)
Posted by: dweeb at July 21, 2016 11:51 PM (cxyn3)
For the blind and dumb NeverTrumpers:
Trump, LOUDLY, said in his speech that IN HIS FIRST 100 DAYS he will have instructed EVERY DEPT. in the Federal govt. to give him a list of largesse and waste that he can get rid of.......that pretty much sums up EXACTLY what Trump supporters expect...
That contrary to GOP establishment and DEM establishment (who are one in the same) Trump will treat the government like he treats his own businesses - run a profit, be mean and lean, and be successful.
Now, for the establishment suckups - that sounds like "bigger government" because they have shit their pants and need to paint it as such because they are afraid the pork will stop.
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Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)