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Peter Thiel Secretly Funded Hulk Hogan Lawsuit As Vengeance for Gawker Outing Him as Gay
Vengeance is expensive, but worth every damn penny.
A billionaire Silicon Valley entrepreneur was outed as being gay by a media organization. His friends suffered at the hands of the same gossip site. Nearly a decade later, the entrepreneur secretly financed a lawsuit to try to put the media company out of business. That is the back story to a legal case that had already grabbed headlines: The wrestler Hulk Hogan sued Gawker Media for invasion of privacy after it published a sex tape, and a Florida jury recently awarded the wrestler, whose real name is Terry Gene Bollea, $140 million. What the jury -- and the public - -did not know was that Mr. Bollea had a secret benefactor paying about $10 million for the lawsuit: Peter Thiel, a co-founder of PayPal and one of the earliest investors in Facebook. A 2007 article published by Gawker’s Valleywag blog was headlined, "Peter Thiel is totally gay, people." That and a series of articles about his friends and others that he said "ruined people’s lives for no reason" drove Mr. Thiel to mount a clandestine war against Gawker. He funded a team of lawyers to find and help "victims" of the company's coverage mount cases against Gawker. "It's less about revenge and more about specific deterrence," he said on Wednesday in his first interview since his identity was revealed. "I saw Gawker pioneer a unique and incredibly damaging way of getting attention by bullying people even when there was no connection with the public interest."Apparently there were rumors about this previously, which were dismissed as just conspiracy theories. But the rumors began when Hulk Hogan's legal team specifically did not mount an allegation for which Gawker's insurance company would be compelled to cover their losses -- that is, the lawsuit was designed not to suck money out of an insurance company, but specifically to deliver a lethal blow to Gawker. Well, had I known that, I would have bought into the conspiracy theory too. That is a very strange decision.
... "It's not like it is some sort of speaking truth to power or something going on here. The way I’ve thought about this is that Gawker has been a singularly terrible bully. In a way, if I didn’t think Gawker was unique, I wouldn’t have done any of this. If the entire media was more or less like this, this would be like trying to boil the ocean." Mr. Thiel said he had not targeted any other media companies.
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MOAR Please...
The right needs to start playing the left's game of Legal Barbarians at the Gate up to and including buying judges.
The right needs to start playing the left's game of Legal Barbarians at the Gate up to and including buying judges.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 11:48 AM (g8Hfr)
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ah, there ye are
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 11:49 AM (qCMvj)
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Not strange at all Ace, our legal system is now openly and tacitly a game of finding the right judges and case to ruin your opponent as precisely as you can.
I'm glad Thiel found the Washington Generals for his legal globetrotters.
I'm glad Thiel found the Washington Generals for his legal globetrotters.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 11:49 AM (g8Hfr)
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I was typing.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 11:49 AM (pC96u)
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Get 'em before they take root. I like it.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 26, 2016 11:50 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 11:50 AM (g8Hfr)
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I I hear he's bottling nick Gillespie's tears for use as steak sauce.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 26, 2016 11:50 AM (rBqnb)
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But the rumors began when Hulk Hogan's legal team specifically did not
mount an allegation for which Gawker's insurance company would be
compelled to cover their losses -- that is, the lawsuit was designed not
to suck money out of an insurance company, but specifically to deliver a
lethal blow to Gawker.
It looks like the rumors were right, but you don't need a conspiracy theory for your legal team to decide on this tactic.
Preventing the defendant from claiming on its insurance policy means that the defendant needs to front the costs of the litigation itself -- that can be valuable settlement/bargaining leverage, particularly where (as here) the plaintiff is seeking something other than a monetary recovery.
mount an allegation for which Gawker's insurance company would be
compelled to cover their losses -- that is, the lawsuit was designed not
to suck money out of an insurance company, but specifically to deliver a
lethal blow to Gawker.
It looks like the rumors were right, but you don't need a conspiracy theory for your legal team to decide on this tactic.
Preventing the defendant from claiming on its insurance policy means that the defendant needs to front the costs of the litigation itself -- that can be valuable settlement/bargaining leverage, particularly where (as here) the plaintiff is seeking something other than a monetary recovery.
Posted by: Revenant at May 26, 2016 11:51 AM (y64uP)
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I wonder if Terry's man enough to vote for Hillary!?
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 26, 2016 11:51 AM (kZVsz)
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7 Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 26, 2016 11:50 AM (rBqnb)
I want Nick Gillespie selling blood and semen to eat mark down produce...
I want Nick Gillespie selling blood and semen to eat mark down produce...
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 11:51 AM (g8Hfr)
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Good, some people just need a good and proper whupping.
Posted by: Zhytamyr at May 26, 2016 11:51 AM (91nzM)
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Theil should just give me the $10 million. I'll add Nick Denton to my enemies list.
Believe me, everyone on that list will wish they hadn't been born before I'm done with them, so Theil will get good value for his investment.
So, Peter, I know you're a Trump delegate and that doesn't bother me. So send me $10 million. Or else.
Believe me, everyone on that list will wish they hadn't been born before I'm done with them, so Theil will get good value for his investment.
So, Peter, I know you're a Trump delegate and that doesn't bother me. So send me $10 million. Or else.
Posted by: Hillary! at May 26, 2016 11:51 AM (/m8T6)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 26, 2016 11:52 AM (kdS6q)
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so he's a gay person who wasn't constantly letting everyone on the planet know that he was gay?
Posted by: nckate at May 26, 2016 11:52 AM (IZFV4)
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I hear he's bottling nick Gillespie's tears for use as steak sauce.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 26, 2016 11:50 AM (rBqnb)
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I'd imagine they are quite bitter.....
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 26, 2016 11:50 AM (rBqnb)
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I'd imagine they are quite bitter.....
Posted by: IP at May 26, 2016 11:52 AM (aQQbl)
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I don't know enough about Gawker. How are they uniquely sleazy?
I don't know enough about Gawker. How are they uniquely sleazy?
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 11:52 AM (pC96u)
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Anyone still wonder why Game of Thrones is the defining TV show of our era?
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 26, 2016 11:52 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 11:53 AM (JJev6)
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Ever since Reason ran that 2008 pro/con Obama issue, they've been completely squirrelshit.
And I love that someone stepped up and helped Terry out with this. Nobody deserves to be treated like this. Unless they shot first.
And I love that someone stepped up and helped Terry out with this. Nobody deserves to be treated like this. Unless they shot first.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 26, 2016 11:53 AM (kZVsz)
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Companies like Gawker have to be wiped out, or others will figure what they do is okay and gets you hits.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (39g3+)
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Ace I just want you to know you're my Hero. I just got done telling a friend the other day that I don't know what Ace is going to do basically being passive-aggressive against Trump for the rest of the long campaign.
Then the very next day you mount a wake-up call to the #NeverTrumpers. Fucking. Hero.
Then the very next day you mount a wake-up call to the #NeverTrumpers. Fucking. Hero.
Posted by: Usually Lurkin at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (tC8gu)
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$10 million? I want Theils $10 million! Send it to me, Peter, and I'll come up with great ideas. Great IDEAS! For Gawker. Yeah, Gawker ideas.
Posted by: Kanye at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (/m8T6)
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14 Posted by: nckate at May 26, 2016 11:52 AM (IZFV4)
as rare as Hen's teeth and as scarce as ethics in DC...
as rare as Hen's teeth and as scarce as ethics in DC...
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (g8Hfr)
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I hope there'll be a post today about how the Conservative Republican House fucked America again last night.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (ZEzaq)
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Well....Gawker was guilty of violating Hulk Hogan's privacy, regardless of who financed his legal action, so I guess I'm OK with it?
Gawker is a ripe target - Denton and crew are just awful people - but one could see how this might play out in other circumstances, where a tech billionaire secretly bankrolls legal action against a conservative media outlet while pretending to be totes impartial.
Gawker is a ripe target - Denton and crew are just awful people - but one could see how this might play out in other circumstances, where a tech billionaire secretly bankrolls legal action against a conservative media outlet while pretending to be totes impartial.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 11:55 AM (NOIQH)
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I hope there'll be a post today about how the Conservative Republican House fucked America again last night.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (ZEzaq)
Sorry, we only post "news" here!
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (ZEzaq)
Sorry, we only post "news" here!
Posted by: Hrothgar says 'BTW F@#k Cancer!' at May 26, 2016 11:55 AM (wYnyS)
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This was so awesome I got a boner just reading about it
Posted by: Tradd at May 26, 2016 11:56 AM (GSJcT)
Posted by: HyperMania1637 at May 26, 2016 11:56 AM (guFKJ)
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>>17
Anyone still wonder why Game of Thrones is the defining TV show of our era?Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 26, 2016 11:52 AM (9krrF)
Yes, I do. Mrs. Zod likes the show; I hate it. If it is in fact the defining show of our era, I hate our era just a little bit more than I already did.
Anyone still wonder why Game of Thrones is the defining TV show of our era?Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 26, 2016 11:52 AM (9krrF)
Yes, I do. Mrs. Zod likes the show; I hate it. If it is in fact the defining show of our era, I hate our era just a little bit more than I already did.
Posted by: General Zod at May 26, 2016 11:56 AM (Bdeb0)
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24 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (ZEzaq)
They didn't fuck America...they invited perverts into America's public restrooms to fuck America's women and kids.
They didn't fuck America...they invited perverts into America's public restrooms to fuck America's women and kids.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 11:56 AM (g8Hfr)
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That someone profits for 40 million dollars as a result of screwing his best friend's wife is all you need to know about the state of our country.
A pox on both their million dollar houses.
A pox on both their million dollar houses.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 11:56 AM (JJev6)
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I I hear he's bottling nick Gillespie's tears for use as steak sauce
What was goth fonzie's part in all this?
What was goth fonzie's part in all this?
Posted by: bananaDream at May 26, 2016 11:57 AM (Ag8Mw)
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I hope there'll be a post today about how the Conservative Republican House fucked America again last night.>>>
If you had not worn that short skirt we wouldn't have done it.
If you had not worn that short skirt we wouldn't have done it.
Posted by: Conservative Republican House at May 26, 2016 11:57 AM (Mxs5H)
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26 I hope there'll be a post today about how the Conservative Republican House fucked America again last night.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (ZEzaq)
Sorry, we only post "news" here!
Posted by: Hrothgar says 'BTW F@#k Cancer!' at May 26, 2016 11:55 AM (wYnyS)
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We need something like "America's Debt Clock" to keep track of all the times the McConnell/Ryan cartel has screwed America.
Put it right on the front page of the blog and watch it click over...
26 I hope there'll be a post today about how the Conservative Republican House fucked America again last night.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (ZEzaq)
Sorry, we only post "news" here!
Posted by: Hrothgar says 'BTW F@#k Cancer!' at May 26, 2016 11:55 AM (wYnyS)
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We need something like "America's Debt Clock" to keep track of all the times the McConnell/Ryan cartel has screwed America.
Put it right on the front page of the blog and watch it click over...
Posted by: Kanye at May 26, 2016 11:57 AM (/m8T6)
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So lemmi git this straight- well straight so to speak- a gay guy is pissed people know he is gay but being gay and or a trannie is A-OK when it comes to National Security?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 11:58 AM (g31NN)
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You guys are doing great!
Posted by: zombie Caesar Nero at May 26, 2016 11:58 AM (BH8wL)
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IMO, Hogan's privacy was not violated. The filming was not done at his home.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 11:59 AM (JJev6)
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I have no problem with this.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Lighter Fluid, Charcoal, and Othe Car-Be-Cue Supplies at the Outrage Outlet at May 26, 2016 11:59 AM (hLRSq)
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But the rumors began when Hulk Hogan's legal team specifically did not mount an allegation for which Gawker's insurance company would be compelled to cover their losses -- that is, the lawsuit was designed not to suck money out of an insurance company, but specifically to deliver a lethal blow to Gawker.
how?
how?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:00 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at May 26, 2016 12:00 PM (1Sr1s)
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I wonder how the Koskinen impeachment hearings are going? We just found out about the restructuring thing and ripping off Americans.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:00 PM (39g3+)
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Hilarious thing is this allows Hogan to be rehabilitated by WWE, gives him a bigger payout than he's gotten in years AND likely breaks Gawker...
that is a fucking hat trick win for the bankroller.
that is a fucking hat trick win for the bankroller.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:00 PM (g8Hfr)
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So lemmi git this straight- well straight so to speak- a gay guy is pissed people know he is gay but being gay and or a trannie is A-OK when it comes to National Security?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 11:58 AM (g31NN)
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If I find out Peter Thiel is some agendized gay who outs other gays, I'll turn on him. Otherwise, it's his business and it was nasty of Gawker to out him. It's tempting to turn on him, but I can't punish him for the sins of lefty hijackers.
So lemmi git this straight- well straight so to speak- a gay guy is pissed people know he is gay but being gay and or a trannie is A-OK when it comes to National Security?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 11:58 AM (g31NN)
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If I find out Peter Thiel is some agendized gay who outs other gays, I'll turn on him. Otherwise, it's his business and it was nasty of Gawker to out him. It's tempting to turn on him, but I can't punish him for the sins of lefty hijackers.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:01 PM (pC96u)
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As much as the Republicans in the house annoy me, at least they are doing the right thing by attempting to impeach the IRS chief. The guy is clearly a monster drunk with power abusing it to attack Americans.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:01 PM (39g3+)
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I hear he's bottling nick Gillespie's tears for use as steak sauce.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 26, 2016 11:50 AM (rBqnb)
how does this relate to the man in black?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 26, 2016 11:50 AM (rBqnb)
how does this relate to the man in black?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:01 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (RKQ/v)
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39 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:00 PM (qCMvj)
The procedural case they set up was to show Gawker engaged in behavior explicitly not protected by their actuarial coverage....
it risked failure for the case whereas the simpler route would have had Gawker's asshole premiums go up but otherwise feel no pain.
It was a ballsy move.
The procedural case they set up was to show Gawker engaged in behavior explicitly not protected by their actuarial coverage....
it risked failure for the case whereas the simpler route would have had Gawker's asshole premiums go up but otherwise feel no pain.
It was a ballsy move.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (g8Hfr)
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I wish Thiel would have funded Zimmerman's suit against NBC for doctoring the 911 tapes.
That should have been an open and shut win for Zimmerman and a bankrupting event for NBC.
That should have been an open and shut win for Zimmerman and a bankrupting event for NBC.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (Zs4uk)
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Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:00 PM (qCMvj)
The language in the lawsuit can be structured in a way to trigger insurance coverage in spite of the policies exclusions. That they did not structure the allegations to overcome the exclusions the insurance company can deny coverage.
The language in the lawsuit can be structured in a way to trigger insurance coverage in spite of the policies exclusions. That they did not structure the allegations to overcome the exclusions the insurance company can deny coverage.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (JJev6)
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Couldn't have happened to a better crew of assholes
Posted by: Lauren at May 26, 2016 12:03 PM (53OZk)
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If I find out Peter Thiel is some agendized gay who outs other gays, I'll turn on him. Otherwise, it's his business and it was nasty of Gawker to out him. It's tempting to turn on him, but I can't punish him for the sins of lefty hijackers.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:01 PM (pC96u)
that's not my point...I don't give a rat's ass about Theil...I would not know him if I hit him with my car....My point is that obviously being gay is still a huge stigma to gay people and thus ripe for blackmail, so why does that NOT effect their security clearances? This is real life not fantasy life
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:01 PM (pC96u)
that's not my point...I don't give a rat's ass about Theil...I would not know him if I hit him with my car....My point is that obviously being gay is still a huge stigma to gay people and thus ripe for blackmail, so why does that NOT effect their security clearances? This is real life not fantasy life
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:03 PM (g31NN)
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I wish Thiel would have funded Zimmerman's suit against NBC for doctoring the 911 tapes.
That should have been an open and shut win for Zimmerman and a bankrupting event for NBC.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (Zs4uk)
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Seconded. Gawker at least published facts backed up by raw data!
I wish Thiel would have funded Zimmerman's suit against NBC for doctoring the 911 tapes.
That should have been an open and shut win for Zimmerman and a bankrupting event for NBC.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (Zs4uk)
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Seconded. Gawker at least published facts backed up by raw data!
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:03 PM (pC96u)
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43 Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:01 PM (pC96u)
No for the most part he is the embodiment of the old school Log Cabin type so far as I know...
Unlike some gay Republicans he did not go all GLAAD when the cookie was in sight.
No for the most part he is the embodiment of the old school Log Cabin type so far as I know...
Unlike some gay Republicans he did not go all GLAAD when the cookie was in sight.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (g8Hfr)
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I prefer my cakes to be Diablo III cakes served by a hot brunette
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (39g3+)
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I wonder how the Koskinen impeachment hearings are going? We just found out about the restructuring thing and ripping off Americans.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:00 PM (39g3+)
I can't wait for another Congressional hearing to publicly demonstrate the fecklessness of the GOPe, the stupidity of most every individual associated with Congress, and the ability for an investigative group to ensure that not one single useful fact leading to criminal prosecution and conviction emerges from the hearing!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:00 PM (39g3+)
I can't wait for another Congressional hearing to publicly demonstrate the fecklessness of the GOPe, the stupidity of most every individual associated with Congress, and the ability for an investigative group to ensure that not one single useful fact leading to criminal prosecution and conviction emerges from the hearing!
Posted by: Hrothgar says 'BTW F@#k Cancer!' at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (wYnyS)
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21...agree with everything you say...Ace is my hero too...and did you read his twitter rant? I woke up at 3am and read it..
Posted by: Screaming Flying Monkey Tails at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (PB3Ap)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (pC96u)
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The guy is clearly a monster drunk with power abusing it to attack Americans.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:01 PM (39g3+)
And he has a smug face that just shouts 'Punch Me"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:01 PM (39g3+)
And he has a smug face that just shouts 'Punch Me"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (g31NN)
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is Thiel pumping money into the NC hb2 fight?
Posted by: nckate at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (IZFV4)
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Would be nice to see Gawker reduced to giving Handies in the alley behind the free AIDS treatment clinic.
$5.00 a pop.
$5.00 a pop.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (ptqRm)
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Good....good....
Now I'm worried -
how do we KNOW a president Trump won't use Peter Thiel and his money to suppress a free press, impartially reporting on his perfidious insistence on ordering war crimes?
WE JUST DON'T KNOW!
***wipes flecks of spittle off the corner of his mouth and resumes browsing the Fapplebee's menu***
Now I'm worried -
how do we KNOW a president Trump won't use Peter Thiel and his money to suppress a free press, impartially reporting on his perfidious insistence on ordering war crimes?
WE JUST DON'T KNOW!
***wipes flecks of spittle off the corner of his mouth and resumes browsing the Fapplebee's menu***
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (lutOX)
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A majority of Democrats and a minority of Republicans pass nearly all the bills in the Republican-led House.
It's a fuicking joke.
A majority of Democrats and a minority of Republicans pass nearly all the bills in the Republican-led House.
It's a fuicking joke.
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (1Sr1s)
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Then the very next day you mount a wake-up call to the #NeverTrumpers. Fucking. HXeero.
Posted by: Usually Lurkin at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (tC8gu)
Then the very next day you mount a wake-up call to the #NeverTrumpers. Fucking.
Posted by: Usually Lurkin at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (tC8gu)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:05 PM (qCMvj)
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51 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:03 PM (g31NN)
Quite the contrary NGU today being Team Glee in the military is a career enhancer...why make it a security clearance ding?
Quite the contrary NGU today being Team Glee in the military is a career enhancer...why make it a security clearance ding?
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:05 PM (g8Hfr)
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I hope he bankrupts them.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 12:05 PM (vvmPQ)
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That should have been an open and shut win for Zimmerman and a bankrupting event for NBC.
Yeah NBC should have been brutally punished for that. And it shouldn't have taken a lawsuit. I mean, the guy is Hispanic and had his civil rights violated, the federal government could have gone after NBC. Had it not been Obama's son that was killed, that is.
Yeah NBC should have been brutally punished for that. And it shouldn't have taken a lawsuit. I mean, the guy is Hispanic and had his civil rights violated, the federal government could have gone after NBC. Had it not been Obama's son that was killed, that is.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:05 PM (39g3+)
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The language in the lawsuit can be structured in a
way to trigger insurance coverage in spite of the policies exclusions.
That they did not structure the allegations to overcome the exclusions
the insurance company can deny coverage.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (JJev6)
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and since we know insurance companies are such compassionate and caring companies, it came as no surprise that they saw this, and chose not to step in front of the bullet headed strait for Gawker
way to trigger insurance coverage in spite of the policies exclusions.
That they did not structure the allegations to overcome the exclusions
the insurance company can deny coverage.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (JJev6)
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and since we know insurance companies are such compassionate and caring companies, it came as no surprise that they saw this, and chose not to step in front of the bullet headed strait for Gawker
Posted by: IP at May 26, 2016 12:06 PM (aQQbl)
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God I love this story.
It's even better because third party litigation funding is generally done by someone who will, at the very least, get the attorney fees back. It sounds like this guy is all nah bro I want to watch Gawker burn.
I can think of far worse ways to spend $10 million.
It's even better because third party litigation funding is generally done by someone who will, at the very least, get the attorney fees back. It sounds like this guy is all nah bro I want to watch Gawker burn.
I can think of far worse ways to spend $10 million.
Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 26, 2016 12:06 PM (mf5HN)
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Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (g8Hfr)
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Thanks, I was curious.
P.S., I misunderstood Nevergiveup's post anyway.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (g8Hfr)
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Thanks, I was curious.
P.S., I misunderstood Nevergiveup's post anyway.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:07 PM (pC96u)
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I would think that a Hit-Man would be cheaper...and just as satisfying.
Posted by: Paladin at May 26, 2016 12:07 PM (WujO7)
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48 I wish Thiel would have funded Zimmerman's suit against NBC for doctoring the 911 tapes.
That should have been an open and shut win for Zimmerman and a bankrupting event for NBC.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (Zs4uk)
Missed opportunity.
Katie Couric has teed up a brand new one quite beautifully. Not as easy maybe to demonstrate/quantify the harm to those in the video, but the shenanigans are undeniable.
That should have been an open and shut win for Zimmerman and a bankrupting event for NBC.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (Zs4uk)
Missed opportunity.
Katie Couric has teed up a brand new one quite beautifully. Not as easy maybe to demonstrate/quantify the harm to those in the video, but the shenanigans are undeniable.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 26, 2016 12:07 PM (M0ddJ)
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The language in the lawsuit can be structured in a way to trigger insurance coverage in spite of the policies exclusions. That they did not structure the allegations to overcome the exclusions the insurance company can deny coverage.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (JJev6)
thank you
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (JJev6)
thank you
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:09 PM (qCMvj)
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39 how?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:00 PM (qCMvj)
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Gawker's insurance was structured in such a way that some claims were covered and some weren't, but the defense against all claims would be paid by the insurer if there were covered claims at issue in the trial.
In a beautiful move, Hogan's lawyers subpoenaed a copy of the policy and immediately dropped the claim that obligated the insurer to pay Gawkers trial costs. Then Gawker immediately tried to settle the case, offering "substantial sums" to make it go away and avoid paying lawyers, and Hogan said "no thanks".
All in all, this was crafted to inflict maximum pain on Gawker and Denton.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:00 PM (qCMvj)
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Gawker's insurance was structured in such a way that some claims were covered and some weren't, but the defense against all claims would be paid by the insurer if there were covered claims at issue in the trial.
In a beautiful move, Hogan's lawyers subpoenaed a copy of the policy and immediately dropped the claim that obligated the insurer to pay Gawkers trial costs. Then Gawker immediately tried to settle the case, offering "substantial sums" to make it go away and avoid paying lawyers, and Hogan said "no thanks".
All in all, this was crafted to inflict maximum pain on Gawker and Denton.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:09 PM (/m8T6)
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When was the last media company to collapse and disappear though? They always seem to hang in there no matter how few people read or how little profit they make. Newsweek is still around. The Seattle Times is still around as a website.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:09 PM (39g3+)
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19 Ever since Reason ran that 2008 pro/con Obama issue, they've been completely squirrelshit.
So you're saying that Gillespie jumped the shark?
So you're saying that Gillespie jumped the shark?
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 26, 2016 12:09 PM (VdICR)
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Gawker use to do this celebrity stalking thing. People would send them tips of a celebrity sighting and they would map out where the person was in real time. Finally, they stopped that. Not sure what made them do it besides the assholery of it. Celeb couldnt even walk to the dry cleaners with ut every one knowing. And this is why Elijah Wood hates you.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:09 PM (iQIUe)
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>>>Preventing the defendant from claiming on its insurance policy means that the defendant needs to front the costs of the litigation itself -- that can be valuable settlement/bargaining leverage, particularly where (as here) the plaintiff is seeking something other than a monetary recovery.
ah. I didn't know that. makes sense.
ah. I didn't know that. makes sense.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:09 PM (dciA+)
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Oh yeeeeaaaah! Takin' it to 'em! Snap into Slim Jim!
Posted by: Randy Macho Man Savage at May 26, 2016 12:10 PM (o9vm9)
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Yeah, this puts it on Gawker to collect indemnity from their insuror--Bollea isn't a party to that discussion. I know these insurance companies--they'll claim outing Bollea was "not a part of Gawker's daily work activity" or some shit and make Gawker battle their lawyers for every dime.
If Theil and Hogan had asked the insurance company to be a party to this, they'd have been wrapped up for years trying to keep the insurance in the case, 'cause that's where the big money is. But they don't care about max payout as much as max pain.
Nice.
If Theil and Hogan had asked the insurance company to be a party to this, they'd have been wrapped up for years trying to keep the insurance in the case, 'cause that's where the big money is. But they don't care about max payout as much as max pain.
Nice.
Posted by: spongeworthy at May 26, 2016 12:10 PM (mrfTe)
Posted by: Carlos Danger at May 26, 2016 12:10 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: Al Jezzeria America at May 26, 2016 12:10 PM (g31NN)
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The procedural case they set up was to show Gawker engaged in behavior explicitly not protected by their actuarial coverage....
it risked failure for the case whereas the simpler route would have had Gawker's asshole premiums go up but otherwise feel no pain.
It was a ballsy move.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (g8Hfr)
thanks Sven
it risked failure for the case whereas the simpler route would have had Gawker's asshole premiums go up but otherwise feel no pain.
It was a ballsy move.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:02 PM (g8Hfr)
thanks Sven
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:10 PM (qCMvj)
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for the most part [Thiel] is the embodiment of the old school Log Cabin type so far as I know...
Posted by: sven10077
He's Libertarian Right. Which is why Gawker outed him just to give him grief.
for the most part [Thiel] is the embodiment of the old school Log Cabin type so far as I know...
Posted by: sven10077
He's Libertarian Right. Which is why Gawker outed him just to give him grief.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 26, 2016 12:10 PM (kdS6q)
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I hate Goth Fonzie -- Nick Gillespie -- as much as I hate Nick Denton (well, okay, not as much, but close) but anyway you guys are confusing the two miscreants.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:10 PM (dciA+)
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When was the last media company to collapse and disappear though?
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Air America. Current TV.
When was the last media company to collapse and disappear though?
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Air America. Current TV.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:11 PM (pC96u)
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77 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:09 PM (iQIUe)
if the whiner yesterday was EW I am shocked Frodo only has ~ 4 million in the bank...
he should have become some Glee Producer's Human Condom I guess..
if the whiner yesterday was EW I am shocked Frodo only has ~ 4 million in the bank...
he should have become some Glee Producer's Human Condom I guess..
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:11 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 26, 2016 12:12 PM (k4M/B)
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In a beautiful move, Hogan's lawyers subpoenaed a copy of the policy and immediately dropped the claim that obligated the insurer to pay Gawkers trial costs. Then Gawker immediately tried to settle the case, offering "substantial sums" to make it go away and avoid paying lawyers, and Hogan said "no thanks".
All in all, this was crafted to inflict maximum pain on Gawker and Denton.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:09 PM (/m8T6)/i]
I was wondering how they knew what was in the policy.
Kinda tipped them off at that point.
All in all, this was crafted to inflict maximum pain on Gawker and Denton.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:09 PM (/m8T6)/i]
I was wondering how they knew what was in the policy.
Kinda tipped them off at that point.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:12 PM (qCMvj)
90
I was kinda hoping to come to Ace of Spades HQ and get the nads dipped in pudding cups graphic for Trump clenching the nomination.
It's all good. I'll just visualize it in my mind.
Aaahhhhh, sooooo, good.
It's all good. I'll just visualize it in my mind.
Aaahhhhh, sooooo, good.
Posted by: Drider at May 26, 2016 12:12 PM (bdzyz)
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I can think of far worse ways to spend $10 million.
osted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 26, 2016 12:06 PM (mf5HN)
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Plus, it couldn't happen to nicer people. This was a public service by Theil.
osted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 26, 2016 12:06 PM (mf5HN)
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Plus, it couldn't happen to nicer people. This was a public service by Theil.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:12 PM (/m8T6)
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crap
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:12 PM (qCMvj)
93
All in all, this was crafted to inflict maximum pain on Gawker and Denton.
Which is the point, isn't it? To make the company suffer for what they did.
I don't think Hulk Hogan is a hero, he seems kind of sleazy to me. But Gawker is a repulsive site that needs to be punished badly.
Which is the point, isn't it? To make the company suffer for what they did.
I don't think Hulk Hogan is a hero, he seems kind of sleazy to me. But Gawker is a repulsive site that needs to be punished badly.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:13 PM (39g3+)
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When was the last media company to collapse and disappear though?
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Air America. Current TV.>>>
That Current TV deal worked out great for me.
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Air America. Current TV.>>>
That Current TV deal worked out great for me.
Posted by: Al Gore at May 26, 2016 12:13 PM (Mxs5H)
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Wait a minute -- Peter Thiel's life was "totally ruined" because it was revealed to the public that he was a homosexual? But I thought that there was nothing wrong with that. That's what we keep getting told.
I mean, was Milo Yiannopoulos' life totally ruined?
I mean, was Milo Yiannopoulos' life totally ruined?
Posted by: Qoheleth at May 26, 2016 12:13 PM (iIzG7)
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He's Libertarian Right. Which is why Gawker outed him just to give him grief.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 26, 2016 12:10 PM (kdS6q)
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I never followed this. Interesting.
He's Libertarian Right. Which is why Gawker outed him just to give him grief.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 26, 2016 12:10 PM (kdS6q)
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I never followed this. Interesting.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:14 PM (pC96u)
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He tamped 'em up solid
Posted by: Dan Rather at May 26, 2016 12:14 PM (12kBq)
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I'm really not sure why this is even a story, except perhaps for the star factor of both Hogan Thiel. If I had a legit case against a hugely powerful opponent but couldn't afford to bring suit, and someone who had the money to help me out decided to do so, both as a favor and because s/he had a grudge against the opponent in question, who cares? The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 26, 2016 12:14 PM (4df7R)
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1238
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:14 PM (nFwvY)
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80 Posted by: spongeworthy at May 26, 2016 12:10 PM (mrfTe)
Which is what makes this so masterful from Thiel's PoV....
Gawker now has to run at the insurer and cry "no no this assholery is our main business"...
the insurer has to attack the covered as relentlessly as possible undermining Gawker's pretensions at being "real news."
Thiel likely plays a mean game of chess.
Which is what makes this so masterful from Thiel's PoV....
Gawker now has to run at the insurer and cry "no no this assholery is our main business"...
the insurer has to attack the covered as relentlessly as possible undermining Gawker's pretensions at being "real news."
Thiel likely plays a mean game of chess.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:14 PM (g8Hfr)
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I believe homosexuality is not considered a security threat IF the person is generally out among his friends and family (ergo, no strong blackmail angle).
Closeted homosexuality is considered a threat.
Closeted homosexuality is considered a threat.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:14 PM (dciA+)
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I hate Goth Fonzie -- Nick Gillespie -- as much as I hate Nick Denton (well, okay, not as much, but close) but anyway you guys are confusing the two miscreants.
Have you seen the both of them in the same room together before? Hmm? Hmm? (single eyebrow raise)
Have you seen the both of them in the same room together before? Hmm? Hmm? (single eyebrow raise)
Posted by: bananaDream at May 26, 2016 12:15 PM (Ag8Mw)
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Al Jiz America went under.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:15 PM (iQIUe)
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that's what you get for running with the devil
Posted by: Eddie Van Halen at May 26, 2016 12:15 PM (12kBq)
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>>>Thiel likely plays a mean game of chess.
i think the article said he was chess grandmaster or something.
i think the article said he was chess grandmaster or something.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:15 PM (dciA+)
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Fun Fact:
Peter Thiel is also a Trump California delegate to the Republican convention.
So, he's on a roll.
Fun Fact:
Peter Thiel is also a Trump California delegate to the Republican convention.
So, he's on a roll.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 26, 2016 12:16 PM (kdS6q)
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I'll never pass up an opportunity to bust on Goth Fonzie.
Nick? Oh, you mean like that not-libertarian Goth Fonzie who helped destroy the last libertarian commentary magazine?
Nick? Oh, you mean like that not-libertarian Goth Fonzie who helped destroy the last libertarian commentary magazine?
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 26, 2016 12:16 PM (kZVsz)
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It's a matter of practice that insurance policies are subpoenaed in lawsuits but for the opposite reason than what Hogan's attorneys did here.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (JJev6)
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I believe homosexuality is not considered a security threat IF the person is generally out among his friends and family (ergo, no strong blackmail angle).
Closeted homosexuality is considered a threat.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:14 PM (dciA+)
Yeah and how do you make that distinction on a Security Application? THIS is an example of a flawed policy moving faster that reality dictates.
Closeted homosexuality is considered a threat.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:14 PM (dciA+)
Yeah and how do you make that distinction on a Security Application? THIS is an example of a flawed policy moving faster that reality dictates.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (g31NN)
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This is naïve as hell, I realize, but TFG is buying a $6 million house (or thereabouts) and he has a $400,000 salary now and no income after January 20 (as defined by mortgage lenders anyway), so someone is buying his house for him. Does anyone know who? Isn't giving a $6 million house to the President of the Untied States a bribe? Sure sounds like it to me.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (/m8T6)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (iQIUe)
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101 Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:14 PM (dciA+)
One of the arguments about homosexuality as being a flag in the first place was the vulnerability to grievance psychology as well...
fuck not today if anything the self-esteem of the Glee Gang eclipses straights.
One of the arguments about homosexuality as being a flag in the first place was the vulnerability to grievance psychology as well...
fuck not today if anything the self-esteem of the Glee Gang eclipses straights.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (g8Hfr)
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Wait a minute -- Peter Thiel's life was "totally ruined" because it was revealed to the public that he was a homosexual?
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Not to be contrarian, but to be contrarian: did anyone say his life was totally ruined?
Also, Milo's never made it a secret.
Also, I see people once again muddying the waters around gays who just want to go about their business and leftist hijackers of their "cause."
Wait a minute -- Peter Thiel's life was "totally ruined" because it was revealed to the public that he was a homosexual?
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Not to be contrarian, but to be contrarian: did anyone say his life was totally ruined?
Also, Milo's never made it a secret.
Also, I see people once again muddying the waters around gays who just want to go about their business and leftist hijackers of their "cause."
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (pC96u)
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Gawker Media founder Nick Denton has begun quietly soliciting bids for the sale of his company, The Post has learned.
Denton hired Houlihan Lokey media banker Mark Patricof to advise him on the valuation of the cash-hungry company in the event that he needs to sell it to pay damages to Hulk Hogan, who was awarded $140 million by a Florida jury after Gawker posted a sex video of the wrestling legend, sources said.
At least one unnamed party has already expressed interest with a deal valued at between $50 million and $70 million, sources said.
http://tinyurl.com/hoy9vc5
Denton hired Houlihan Lokey media banker Mark Patricof to advise him on the valuation of the cash-hungry company in the event that he needs to sell it to pay damages to Hulk Hogan, who was awarded $140 million by a Florida jury after Gawker posted a sex video of the wrestling legend, sources said.
At least one unnamed party has already expressed interest with a deal valued at between $50 million and $70 million, sources said.
http://tinyurl.com/hoy9vc5
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (/CXhS)
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I mean, was Milo Yiannopoulos' life totally ruined?
Posted by: Qoheleth at May 26, 2016 12:13 PM (iIzG7)
The MSNBC people would love to hire a self-identifying "conservative" who bad mouths the right and is flamingly gay.
Great television.
Posted by: Qoheleth at May 26, 2016 12:13 PM (iIzG7)
The MSNBC people would love to hire a self-identifying "conservative" who bad mouths the right and is flamingly gay.
Great television.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (Zs4uk)
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Why can you call homosexual men and women 'gay' but only homosexual women can be a 'lesbian?'
Why can you call homosexual men and women 'gay' but only homosexual women can be a 'lesbian?'
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (1Sr1s)
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95
Wait a minute -- Peter Thiel's life was "totally ruined" because it was
revealed to the public that he was a homosexual? But I thought that
there was nothing wrong with that. That's what we keep getting told.
I mean, was Milo Yiannopoulos' life totally ruined?
Posted by: Qoheleth at May 26, 2016 12:13 PM (iIzG7)
Milo almost was totally ruined by that Hood Rat child of a Chicago PD Administrator
Wait a minute -- Peter Thiel's life was "totally ruined" because it was
revealed to the public that he was a homosexual? But I thought that
there was nothing wrong with that. That's what we keep getting told.
I mean, was Milo Yiannopoulos' life totally ruined?
Posted by: Qoheleth at May 26, 2016 12:13 PM (iIzG7)
Milo almost was totally ruined by that Hood Rat child of a Chicago PD Administrator
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (jxbfJ)
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109 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (g31NN)
The same way you decide if teenage depression is a DQ or "normal"...hard investigation of circumstance through interviewing of their reference chart.
The same way you decide if teenage depression is a DQ or "normal"...hard investigation of circumstance through interviewing of their reference chart.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (g8Hfr)
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mtf, he has $400k income for life
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (nFwvY)
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>>>Yeah and how do you make that distinction on a Security Application?
they investigate you. if you hide that you're gay and they find out you're gay, you get branded a security risk.
if they ask around and everyone knows you're gay, and you said as much in your application, you're not a risk.
they investigate you. if you hide that you're gay and they find out you're gay, you get branded a security risk.
if they ask around and everyone knows you're gay, and you said as much in your application, you're not a risk.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (dciA+)
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Gawker Media founder Nick Denton has begun quietly soliciting bids for the sale of his company, The Post has learned.
Denton hired Houlihan Lokey media banker Mark Patricof to advise him on the valuation of the cash-hungry company in the event that he needs to sell it to pay damages to Hulk Hogan, who was awarded $140 million by a Florida jury after Gawker posted a sex video of the wrestling legend, sources said.
At least one unnamed party has already expressed interest with a deal valued at between $50 million and $70 million, sources said.
http://tinyurl.com/hoy9vc5
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (/CXhS)
heh
Thiel oughta buy it
Denton hired Houlihan Lokey media banker Mark Patricof to advise him on the valuation of the cash-hungry company in the event that he needs to sell it to pay damages to Hulk Hogan, who was awarded $140 million by a Florida jury after Gawker posted a sex video of the wrestling legend, sources said.
At least one unnamed party has already expressed interest with a deal valued at between $50 million and $70 million, sources said.
http://tinyurl.com/hoy9vc5
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (/CXhS)
heh
Thiel oughta buy it
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:19 PM (qCMvj)
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Thiel is a private person. He does not make his sexual orientation public. It certainly would not be difficult to determine he was gay but no one cared.
Thiel is a private person. He does not make his sexual orientation public. It certainly would not be difficult to determine he was gay but no one cared.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:20 PM (iQIUe)
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110 This is naive as hell, I realize, but TFG is buying a $6 million house (or thereabouts) and he has a $400,000 salary now and no income after January 20 (as defined by mortgage lenders anyway), so someone is buying his house for him. Does anyone know who? Isn't giving a $6 million house to the President of the Untied States a bribe? Sure sounds like it to me.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (/m8T6)
They're not buying they're renting for 22k per month.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (/m8T6)
They're not buying they're renting for 22k per month.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:20 PM (/CXhS)
Posted by: Admiral Snackbar at May 26, 2016 12:21 PM (vtcmf)
125
Oh yeah, Current was bought by al-Jazeera and turned into an American version that ... didn't work out. Shocking.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:21 PM (39g3+)
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Yeah and how do you make that distinction on a Security Application? THIS is an example of a flawed policy moving faster that reality dictates.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (g31NN)
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Determining that is the investigators' job. They'll go around and ask.
Not to be contrarian, but to be contrarian: the same thing would go for, say, a married straight person who's either openly or not openly having an affair.
Yeah and how do you make that distinction on a Security Application? THIS is an example of a flawed policy moving faster that reality dictates.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:17 PM (g31NN)
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Determining that is the investigators' job. They'll go around and ask.
Not to be contrarian, but to be contrarian: the same thing would go for, say, a married straight person who's either openly or not openly having an affair.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:21 PM (pC96u)
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Obama: Grumpy Bernie Sanders Saying Whatever He Thinks Will Get Some Votes
This fuck can't keep his mouth shut over seas. The MOST undignified President EVER
And talk about the pot calling the kettle black? LIke he never says anything to get votes, the all time panderer of the universe.
This fuck can't keep his mouth shut over seas. The MOST undignified President EVER
And talk about the pot calling the kettle black? LIke he never says anything to get votes, the all time panderer of the universe.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:21 PM (g31NN)
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What ever happened to privacy? The whole bathroom thing - I see it more as an issue of privacy than safety. Sexual orientation is private when it is not an issue in any way. How does Thiel being gay matter to any of his business dealings? It doesnt.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:21 PM (iQIUe)
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>>>Wait a minute -- Peter Thiel's life was "totally ruined" because it was
revealed to the public that he was a homosexual? But I thought that
there was nothing wrong with that. That's what we keep getting told.
I mean, was Milo Yiannopoulos' life totally ruined?
Posted by: Qoheleth at May 26, 2016 12:13 PM (iIzG7)
...
you seem to think you're entitled to just generally know who people are fucking.
I don't like this attitude some seem to have. I think most people here would be pretty protective of their own privacy, but when it comes to the privacy of others, suddenly it's Game On and what's the harm?
Peter Thiel was in fact known to be gay (that's how the useless gawker idiot found out) but he didn't like it being reported as Juicy Gossip and he didn't like Gawker attacking people in Sillicon Valley just because they're successful and everyone at Gawker is a loser seeking vengeance.
I really wish people would restrain their own outbursts of Loser Angry at the World Seeking Vengeance.
revealed to the public that he was a homosexual? But I thought that
there was nothing wrong with that. That's what we keep getting told.
I mean, was Milo Yiannopoulos' life totally ruined?
Posted by: Qoheleth at May 26, 2016 12:13 PM (iIzG7)
...
you seem to think you're entitled to just generally know who people are fucking.
I don't like this attitude some seem to have. I think most people here would be pretty protective of their own privacy, but when it comes to the privacy of others, suddenly it's Game On and what's the harm?
Peter Thiel was in fact known to be gay (that's how the useless gawker idiot found out) but he didn't like it being reported as Juicy Gossip and he didn't like Gawker attacking people in Sillicon Valley just because they're successful and everyone at Gawker is a loser seeking vengeance.
I really wish people would restrain their own outbursts of Loser Angry at the World Seeking Vengeance.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:22 PM (dciA+)
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125 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:21 PM (39g3+)
Al Jazeera was redundant when you have MSNBC more radical than the main body of Hezbollah WRT Israel why have AJ?
Al Jazeera was redundant when you have MSNBC more radical than the main body of Hezbollah WRT Israel why have AJ?
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:22 PM (g8Hfr)
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Fun Fact
Both Rand Pauls and Ted Cruzs presidential campaigns avidly courted Thiel earlier in the election cycle. However, Thiel only made one major donation during the 2016 primaries, giving $2m in August to a Super Pac that supported the longshot candidacy of former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, a vocal critic of Trump.
Fun Fact
Both Rand Pauls and Ted Cruzs presidential campaigns avidly courted Thiel earlier in the election cycle. However, Thiel only made one major donation during the 2016 primaries, giving $2m in August to a Super Pac that supported the longshot candidacy of former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, a vocal critic of Trump.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 26, 2016 12:22 PM (kdS6q)
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119 mtf, he has $400k income for life
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (nFwvY)
400K doesn't get you qualified for a 6 million mortgage.
Obama has cash from books and a projected income from speeches in the millions/year.
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (nFwvY)
400K doesn't get you qualified for a 6 million mortgage.
Obama has cash from books and a projected income from speeches in the millions/year.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (Zs4uk)
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obama aint paying any rent -- his "charity" will pay.
Can you imagine how corrupt the obama version of the Clinton Global Initiative is gonna be?
obama aint paying any rent -- his "charity" will pay.
Can you imagine how corrupt the obama version of the Clinton Global Initiative is gonna be?
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (1Sr1s)
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I love this story. Gawker really is a cesspool.
My only fear is, it probably now makes billionaires untouchable because news outlets will not go near them for fear of massive lawsuits.
My only fear is, it probably now makes billionaires untouchable because news outlets will not go near them for fear of massive lawsuits.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (LZgax)
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they investigate you. if you hide that you're gay and they find out you're gay, you get branded a security risk.
if they ask around and everyone knows you're gay, and you said as much in your application, you're not a risk.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (dciA+)
Determining that is the investigators' job. They'll go around and ask.
Not to be contrarian, but to be contrarian: the same thing would go for, say, a married straight person who's either openly or not openly having an affair.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:21 PM (pC96u)
I guess NEITHER of you 2 have ever filled out a Military Security Application lately ha?
You think they ask that? You think they are allowed to ask that?
LMAO-- not at you 2, but at this situation
if they ask around and everyone knows you're gay, and you said as much in your application, you're not a risk.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (dciA+)
Determining that is the investigators' job. They'll go around and ask.
Not to be contrarian, but to be contrarian: the same thing would go for, say, a married straight person who's either openly or not openly having an affair.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:21 PM (pC96u)
I guess NEITHER of you 2 have ever filled out a Military Security Application lately ha?
You think they ask that? You think they are allowed to ask that?
LMAO-- not at you 2, but at this situation
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (g31NN)
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Testing...
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (O2RFr)
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>>>Not to be contrarian, but to be contrarian: the same thing would go for, say, a married straight person who's either openly or not openly having an affair.
it does. the CIA doesn't care if you're gay or having an affair or into bondage. they care if those things are secret and can be used against you.
if you're in an open marriage and everyone in your circle of friends knows you go to swinger's parties, the cia is less concerned.
it does. the CIA doesn't care if you're gay or having an affair or into bondage. they care if those things are secret and can be used against you.
if you're in an open marriage and everyone in your circle of friends knows you go to swinger's parties, the cia is less concerned.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (dciA+)
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I always wondered about that FBI guy in The Looming Tower. He had a family in NJ, a fiance in DC, a second fiance in Chicago, and a third fiance in NYC.
I always wondered about that FBI guy in The Looming Tower. He had a family in NJ, a fiance in DC, a second fiance in Chicago, and a third fiance in NYC.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:24 PM (iQIUe)
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#37 So if someone snaps videos of you in a movie toilet stall, you're good.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 26, 2016 12:24 PM (Kucy5)
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136 Testing...
Okay... It wasn't letting Me post, and I had such brilliant things to say..... Whatever it was...
Okay... It wasn't letting Me post, and I had such brilliant things to say..... Whatever it was...
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:24 PM (O2RFr)
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It's a matter of practice that insurance policies are subpoenaed in lawsuits but for the opposite reason than what Hogan's attorneys did here.
You don't even have to subpoena them. In state court you simply ask the defendant to produce them, and the defendant has no choice in the matter but to comply. In federal court, the defendant's initial disclosure under Rule 26 requires the automatic production of all policies "under which an insurance business may be liable to satisfy all or part of a possible judgment in the action or to indemnify or reimburse for payments made to satisfy the judgment."
Production of insurance coverage info is routine in a civil lawsuit.
You don't even have to subpoena them. In state court you simply ask the defendant to produce them, and the defendant has no choice in the matter but to comply. In federal court, the defendant's initial disclosure under Rule 26 requires the automatic production of all policies "under which an insurance business may be liable to satisfy all or part of a possible judgment in the action or to indemnify or reimburse for payments made to satisfy the judgment."
Production of insurance coverage info is routine in a civil lawsuit.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 26, 2016 12:24 PM (8ZskC)
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129 Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:22 PM (dciA+)
Steel on target.
People have the right to not be known as "X!"
Thiel's right not to have the first thing thought of him as "GLEEE GLEEE GLEEE! which was Gawker's goal in turning up the noise about his bedroom habits TO ELEVENTY!
Gays have the right to be as private as they like in their carnal habits or as flamboyant as Liberace on poppers just like straights...
that is THEIR choice not Gawker's.
Steel on target.
People have the right to not be known as "X!"
Thiel's right not to have the first thing thought of him as "GLEEE GLEEE GLEEE! which was Gawker's goal in turning up the noise about his bedroom habits TO ELEVENTY!
Gays have the right to be as private as they like in their carnal habits or as flamboyant as Liberace on poppers just like straights...
that is THEIR choice not Gawker's.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (g8Hfr)
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It looks like The Huffpo doesn't like what Thiel did. So more bonus points for Thiel.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/z2xjnar
http://preview.tinyurl.com/z2xjnar
Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (Mxs5H)
Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (klBFi)
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The MSNBC people would love to hire a self-identifying "conservative" who bad mouths the right and is flamingly gay.
Great television.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (Zs4uk)
Isn't Andrew ("I'm obsessed with Palin's womb") Sullivan available?
Milo's a yuge Trump fan. I would think you'd appreciate that.
Great television.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (Zs4uk)
Isn't Andrew ("I'm obsessed with Palin's womb") Sullivan available?
Milo's a yuge Trump fan. I would think you'd appreciate that.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (u0lmX)
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the CIA doesn't care if you're gay or having an affair or into bondage. they care if those things are secret and can be used against you.
if you're in an open marriage and everyone in your circle of friends knows you go to swinger's parties, the cia is less concerned.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (dciA+)
yeah Ace I don't think that is true. Again that sounds reasonable and nice, but that does NOT match the facts.
if you're in an open marriage and everyone in your circle of friends knows you go to swinger's parties, the cia is less concerned.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (dciA+)
yeah Ace I don't think that is true. Again that sounds reasonable and nice, but that does NOT match the facts.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (g31NN)
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I don't know enough about Gawker. How are they uniquely sleazy?
They have a network of sites, each of which pushes the leftist agenda hard: Gizmodo covers gadgets from the leftist perspective, IO9 covers sci-fi from the leftist perspective, Kotaku covers video games from the leftist perspective, Deadspin covers sports from the leftist perspective, and Jezebel covers women from the leftist perspective (ie, lesbian feminists who can't spell).
And pretty much everyone who works there is a hipster douche. Gizmodo famously was banned from the Consumer Electronics Show after they showed up with universal remotes and repeatedly turned off all the TVs on display, including some in the middle of keynote presentations.
They have a network of sites, each of which pushes the leftist agenda hard: Gizmodo covers gadgets from the leftist perspective, IO9 covers sci-fi from the leftist perspective, Kotaku covers video games from the leftist perspective, Deadspin covers sports from the leftist perspective, and Jezebel covers women from the leftist perspective (ie, lesbian feminists who can't spell).
And pretty much everyone who works there is a hipster douche. Gizmodo famously was banned from the Consumer Electronics Show after they showed up with universal remotes and repeatedly turned off all the TVs on display, including some in the middle of keynote presentations.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (KUTP5)
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Trump/Thiel 2016
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (nFwvY)
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119 mtf, he has $400k income for life
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (nFwvY)
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No, IIRC, it's 50%, i.e., $200,000.
But he can get plenty of credit based on anticipated income from memoirs, speeches, etc.
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (nFwvY)
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No, IIRC, it's 50%, i.e., $200,000.
But he can get plenty of credit based on anticipated income from memoirs, speeches, etc.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (T/5A0)
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17 Anyone still wonder why Game of Thrones is the defining TV show of our era?
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 26, 2016 11:52 AM (9krrF)
Well it sure isn't the floppy weiners!
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 26, 2016 11:52 AM (9krrF)
Well it sure isn't the floppy weiners!
Posted by: Butters at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (4A5fG)
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They're not buying they're renting for 22k per month.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:20 PM (/CXhS)
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Also, great expectations. TFG is guaranteed a $10 mil advance on his memoirs minimum. Same for wifey.
But here I'll add a tangent: it will be interesting to see what he comes up with now that Bill Ayers has no interest in ghosting for him.
They're not buying they're renting for 22k per month.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:20 PM (/CXhS)
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Also, great expectations. TFG is guaranteed a $10 mil advance on his memoirs minimum. Same for wifey.
But here I'll add a tangent: it will be interesting to see what he comes up with now that Bill Ayers has no interest in ghosting for him.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (pC96u)
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it does. the CIA doesn't care if you're gay or having an affair or into bondage. they care if those things are secret and can be used against you.
if you're in an open marriage and everyone in your circle of friends knows you go to swinger's parties, the cia is less concerned.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (dciA+)
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You seem to know an awful lot about the CIA, Mr. O'Spades...
if you're in an open marriage and everyone in your circle of friends knows you go to swinger's parties, the cia is less concerned.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (dciA+)
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You seem to know an awful lot about the CIA, Mr. O'Spades...
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (iQIUe)
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they investigate you. if you hide that you're gay and they find out you're gay, you get branded a security risk.
if they ask around and everyone knows you're gay, and you said as much in your application, you're not a risk.
Posted by: ace
Closeted gay men were a MAJOR target of the Soviets to flip someone.
They show you the incriminating pictures and you were then they're inside man in to whatever agency you worked for.
if they ask around and everyone knows you're gay, and you said as much in your application, you're not a risk.
Posted by: ace
Closeted gay men were a MAJOR target of the Soviets to flip someone.
They show you the incriminating pictures and you were then they're inside man in to whatever agency you worked for.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (LZgax)
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if they ask around and everyone knows you're gay, and you said as much in your application, you're not a risk.
Thus Obama?
Thus Obama?
Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (PLnZs)
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135 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (g31NN)
I have, so has wife, so will boy.
The investigator's get hunches....
they work those hunches.
I have, so has wife, so will boy.
The investigator's get hunches....
they work those hunches.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (g8Hfr)
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"Can you imagine how corrupt the obama version of the Clinton Global Initiative is gonna be?"
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (1Sr1s)
I would bet less corrupt.
Obama thinks he's above the law, but the Clintons are in a class all by themselves as far as blatant criminality.
If the extent of their activities were known, it would take people's breath away.
Posted by: Misheard Lyrics Guy at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (1Sr1s)
I would bet less corrupt.
Obama thinks he's above the law, but the Clintons are in a class all by themselves as far as blatant criminality.
If the extent of their activities were known, it would take people's breath away.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:27 PM (Zs4uk)
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Is this Milo guy gay? See I don't give a shit and I don't pay attention to this shit unless someone shoves their sexuality, either way, in my face? So I guess I am the proverbial "Last Man to Know"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:27 PM (g31NN)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 12:27 PM (ptqRm)
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In case you missed it, good to see you back in the scrum, LDC. Your nuggets of info are usually quite interesting and apposite.
NGU, I think ace has it right on security background checks. Undisclosed potential issues providing leverage for coercion (blackmail), including but not limited to "sexual orientation", were always the question. But you knew that.
It's the blackmail potential of the issue, regardless of the issue. Being openly "something" leaves little potential leverage for coercion. Things like financial difficulty or volatile personal behavior are problems in themselves, undisclosed or not, since they provide leverage by themselves.
Of course with the OPM debacle, and the jaw-dropping spectacle of Hillary's illegal and reckless behavior, "security" and classification, like most formerly serious matters, have become farcical.
NGU, I think ace has it right on security background checks. Undisclosed potential issues providing leverage for coercion (blackmail), including but not limited to "sexual orientation", were always the question. But you knew that.
It's the blackmail potential of the issue, regardless of the issue. Being openly "something" leaves little potential leverage for coercion. Things like financial difficulty or volatile personal behavior are problems in themselves, undisclosed or not, since they provide leverage by themselves.
Of course with the OPM debacle, and the jaw-dropping spectacle of Hillary's illegal and reckless behavior, "security" and classification, like most formerly serious matters, have become farcical.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 12:28 PM (QDnY+)
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...They're not buying they're renting for 22k per month.
They'll rent the carriage house to the SS for 28k/month & spend the difference on shoes.
They'll rent the carriage house to the SS for 28k/month & spend the difference on shoes.
Posted by: Zhytamyr at May 26, 2016 12:28 PM (91nzM)
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Gawker, TMZ, National Enquirer...all the same.
Posted by: Hank at May 26, 2016 12:29 PM (GKsb7)
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have, so has wife, so will boy.
The investigator's get hunches....
they work those hunches.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (g8Hfr)
yeah not today. A majority of the Security Clearances are now done online, they do NOT ask your sexual preference, and you never talk to a live human. And no hunch to hunch unless your way out of the norm
The investigator's get hunches....
they work those hunches.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (g8Hfr)
yeah not today. A majority of the Security Clearances are now done online, they do NOT ask your sexual preference, and you never talk to a live human. And no hunch to hunch unless your way out of the norm
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:29 PM (g31NN)
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:29 PM (O2RFr)
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Payback is a bitch. Like Hillary.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 26, 2016 12:29 PM (Nwg0u)
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Pajama boy has been replaced by Clap Chap.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 12:29 PM (ptqRm)
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Isn't Andrew ("I'm obsessed with Palin's womb") Sullivan available?
Milo's a yuge Trump fan. I would think you'd appreciate that.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (u0lmX)
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If Palin ever has a hysterectomy, she shd fed ex it to Sullivan.
Milo's a yuge Trump fan. I would think you'd appreciate that.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (u0lmX)
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If Palin ever has a hysterectomy, she shd fed ex it to Sullivan.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:30 PM (iQIUe)
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the CIA doesn't care if you're gay or having an affair or into bondage. they care if those things are secret and can be used against you.
That makes sense, anything you keep secret is leverage that can be used against you, which makes you more of a security risk.
That makes sense, anything you keep secret is leverage that can be used against you, which makes you more of a security risk.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:30 PM (39g3+)
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127 Obama: Grumpy Bernie Sanders Saying Whatever He Thinks Will Get Some Votes
This fuck can't keep his mouth shut over seas. The MOST undignified President EVER
And talk about the pot calling the kettle black? LIke he never says anything to get votes, the all time panderer of the universe.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:21 PM (g31NN)
Barry's criticizing Bernie? LOLLOL!!! Please keep it up!
Imagine the cognitive dissonance that must cause inside the thick skull of your average millennial Berniebot.
This fuck can't keep his mouth shut over seas. The MOST undignified President EVER
And talk about the pot calling the kettle black? LIke he never says anything to get votes, the all time panderer of the universe.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:21 PM (g31NN)
Barry's criticizing Bernie? LOLLOL!!! Please keep it up!
Imagine the cognitive dissonance that must cause inside the thick skull of your average millennial Berniebot.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:30 PM (u0lmX)
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So I see where obama got all snippy at a press conference today when He was asked about Hillary's! e-mails...
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:30 PM (O2RFr)
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162 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:29 PM (g31NN)
Well I still get interviewed for multiple people, and the interviews always seem to have themes.
One friend had a mini breakdown in high school when he got a b...it comes up.....
another friend had a bad divorce where his DMV ex had him legally declared dead when he was down range...it comes up....
Well I still get interviewed for multiple people, and the interviews always seem to have themes.
One friend had a mini breakdown in high school when he got a b...it comes up.....
another friend had a bad divorce where his DMV ex had him legally declared dead when he was down range...it comes up....
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:31 PM (g8Hfr)
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Isn't Andrew ("I'm obsessed with Palin's womb") Sullivan available?
Milo's a yuge Trump fan. I would think you'd appreciate that.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (u0lmX)
I like Milo and know he's for Trump.
Sullivan lost his ability to play "sensible conservative" badmouthing the right because he was always totally left. The scam only works if someone has a little bit of credibility.
Milo's a yuge Trump fan. I would think you'd appreciate that.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (u0lmX)
I like Milo and know he's for Trump.
Sullivan lost his ability to play "sensible conservative" badmouthing the right because he was always totally left. The scam only works if someone has a little bit of credibility.
Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2016 12:31 PM (Zs4uk)
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NGU, I think ace has it right on security background checks. Undisclosed potential issues providing leverage for coercion (blackmail), including but not limited to "sexual orientation", were always the question. But you knew that.
It's the blackmail potential of the issue, regardless of the issue. Being openly "something" leaves little potential leverage for coercion. Things like financial difficulty or volatile personal behavior are problems in themselves, undisclosed or not, since they provide leverage by themselves.
Yeah but you both are missing the point. Because of new PC Police they do NOT ask about your sexual preference anymore. Financial stuff yes, since they access your credit reports and and court records. So they have no basis to make any judgement and G-D knows what is slipping thru
It's the blackmail potential of the issue, regardless of the issue. Being openly "something" leaves little potential leverage for coercion. Things like financial difficulty or volatile personal behavior are problems in themselves, undisclosed or not, since they provide leverage by themselves.
Yeah but you both are missing the point. Because of new PC Police they do NOT ask about your sexual preference anymore. Financial stuff yes, since they access your credit reports and and court records. So they have no basis to make any judgement and G-D knows what is slipping thru
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:31 PM (g31NN)
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I can hear thousands of keyboards clacking as books and screenplays are created.
Made up conspiracies are never as entertaining as real ones.
Made up conspiracies are never as entertaining as real ones.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 26, 2016 12:31 PM (FtrY1)
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yeah Ace I don't think that is true. Again that sounds reasonable and nice, but that does NOT match the facts.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (g31NN)
you are correct ..... background and psychology checks are a bitch
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:25 PM (g31NN)
you are correct ..... background and psychology checks are a bitch
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 26, 2016 12:31 PM (0O7c5)
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I hope there'll be a post today about how the Conservative Republican House fucked America again last night.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (ZEzaq)
Sorry, we only post "news" here!
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Yeah, talk about a dog bites man story.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 26, 2016 11:54 AM (ZEzaq)
Sorry, we only post "news" here!
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Yeah, talk about a dog bites man story.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (Nwg0u)
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Imagine the cognitive dissonance that must cause inside the thick skull of your average millennial Berniebot.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:30 PM (u0lmX)
good point
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:30 PM (u0lmX)
good point
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (qCMvj)
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Can someone remind me who I should be rooting for here?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (NeFrd)
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157 Is this Milo guy gay? See I don't give a shit and I don't pay attention to this shit unless someone shoves their sexuality, either way, in my face? So I guess I am the proverbial "Last Man to Know"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:27 PM (g31NN)
You've clearly never seen one of his vids. If you did, you wouldn't have to ask.
He's currently my favorite gay dude in the universe.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:27 PM (g31NN)
You've clearly never seen one of his vids. If you did, you wouldn't have to ask.
He's currently my favorite gay dude in the universe.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (u0lmX)
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Milo calls his speaking tour the Dangerous Faggot Tour, so yeah, he's gay.
Milo calls his speaking tour the Dangerous Faggot Tour, so yeah, he's gay.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (iQIUe)
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This is off-topic, but after reading this post I went over to Deadspin just to see if they had any sort of statement to make regarding Gawker (they didn't), and in the sidebar, their click bait totally got me with the headline "I was Right-Leaning until I was Repulsed". I couldn't help myself, I clicked it and on to Jezebel I went.
Don't. Just don't.
After reading the article and many of the comments, my eyes have glazed over and I'm really really depressed. I weep for our future.
Thanks for listening!
Don't. Just don't.
After reading the article and many of the comments, my eyes have glazed over and I'm really really depressed. I weep for our future.
Thanks for listening!
Posted by: Abby at May 26, 2016 12:33 PM (8wu51)
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***wipes flecks of spittle off the corner of his mouth and resumes browsing the Fapplebee's menu***
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (lutOX)
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LOL!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2016 12:04 PM (lutOX)
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LOL!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:33 PM (iQIUe)
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"Gizmodo famously was banned from the Consumer Electronics Show after
they showed up with universal remotes and repeatedly turned off all the
TVs on display, including some in the middle of keynote presentations."
that's funny
they showed up with universal remotes and repeatedly turned off all the
TVs on display, including some in the middle of keynote presentations."
that's funny
Posted by: runner at May 26, 2016 12:33 PM (c6/9Q)
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So I see where obama got all snippy at a press conference today when He was asked about Hillary's! e-mails...
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:30 PM (O2RFr)
that's rich, if he really called out Bernie (said upthread)
what a hypocrite
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:30 PM (O2RFr)
that's rich, if he really called out Bernie (said upthread)
what a hypocrite
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:33 PM (qCMvj)
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You've clearly never seen one of his vids. If you did, you wouldn't have to ask.
He's currently my favorite gay dude in the universe.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (u0lmX)
yes your right...I never heard of him till the left attacked him and then only really that the left attacked him. It really never occurs to this right wing bigot to ever ask or care about a person's sexual preference unless they stick it in my face. LMAO
He's currently my favorite gay dude in the universe.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (u0lmX)
yes your right...I never heard of him till the left attacked him and then only really that the left attacked him. It really never occurs to this right wing bigot to ever ask or care about a person's sexual preference unless they stick it in my face. LMAO
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (g31NN)
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shamus you should be rooting for the publisher of Jezebel unless you are a misogynist
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (nFwvY)
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the s86 background security check for the military doesn't ask about sexual orientation. at all. that would be a huge no no
Posted by: nckate at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (IZFV4)
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This fuck can't keep his mouth shut over seas. The MOST undignified President EVER
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When is he going to apologize to Normandy? That was like a beach-rape of our allies.
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When is he going to apologize to Normandy? That was like a beach-rape of our allies.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (Nwg0u)
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Milo calls his speaking tour the Dangerous Faggot Tour, so yeah, he's gay.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (iQIUe)
he's brave
I'm worried for him.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (iQIUe)
he's brave
I'm worried for him.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (qCMvj)
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FWIW, I have a female friend that works for a defense contractor that requires a security clearance and they do ask them questions like how many sexual partners she has had, etc.
I was honestly amazed they still get to do that in this day and age.
I was honestly amazed they still get to do that in this day and age.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (LZgax)
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I really wish people would restrain their own outbursts of Loser Angry at the World Seeking Vengeance
You're ready to begin your German lessons, ace.
Not everything is intended for public consumption or entertainment, but increasingly fewer people accept that idea. The right to be left alone, IOW. Mind your own business.
I really wish people would restrain their own outbursts of Loser Angry at the World Seeking Vengeance
You're ready to begin your German lessons, ace.
Not everything is intended for public consumption or entertainment, but increasingly fewer people accept that idea. The right to be left alone, IOW. Mind your own business.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (BK3ZS)
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I'm struggling manfully to realize that this outcome, while insanely satisfying because Gawker is slime, might not be so wonderful as a precedent. Like somebody said upthread, this time they use it on a nest of vipers, the next time Soros uses it on somebody we like.
(And yes, it's kinda refreshing that Thiel is gay but didn't see the need to hold up a flashing neon sign reading "I'M FUCKING GAY!!!""")
(And yes, it's kinda refreshing that Thiel is gay but didn't see the need to hold up a flashing neon sign reading "I'M FUCKING GAY!!!""")
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (RD7QR)
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172 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:31 PM (g31NN)
That's true, and yes you are at your core correct in a sane Republic...
you got one handy?
The reason being a Glee ganger was a risk was:
a) the whole hidden thing(not needed anymore b/c FLAAAMBOOOOYYYAAANNNT CAMP GAY is allowed while hetero hand holding isn't)
b) the whole "shunned low self-esteem grievance chip on shoulder thing"
Why in the hell would a modern Security bearer feel grievance at being celebrated as a higher class of human being by COMMAND PRESSURE?
That's true, and yes you are at your core correct in a sane Republic...
you got one handy?
The reason being a Glee ganger was a risk was:
a) the whole hidden thing(not needed anymore b/c FLAAAMBOOOOYYYAAANNNT CAMP GAY is allowed while hetero hand holding isn't)
b) the whole "shunned low self-esteem grievance chip on shoulder thing"
Why in the hell would a modern Security bearer feel grievance at being celebrated as a higher class of human being by COMMAND PRESSURE?
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:35 PM (g8Hfr)
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119 mtf, he has $400k income for life
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (nFwvY)
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Most I could find is a "presidential pension" of $191,300. Still won't support a $6million purchase
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:18 PM (nFwvY)
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Most I could find is a "presidential pension" of $191,300. Still won't support a $6million purchase
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:35 PM (/m8T6)
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Can someone remind me who I should be rooting for here?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (NeFrd)
Ace?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (NeFrd)
Ace?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2016 12:35 PM (qCMvj)
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Can someone remind me who I should be rooting for here?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
SMOD. Always root for SMOD.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
SMOD. Always root for SMOD.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2016 12:35 PM (EdhH3)
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unless they stick it in my face. LMAO
Phrasing!
Phrasing!
Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (PLnZs)
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They're not buying they're renting for 22k per month.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:20 PM (/CXhS)
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Thanks for clearing that up
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:20 PM (/CXhS)
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Thanks for clearing that up
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (/m8T6)
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He's currently my favorite gay dude in the universe.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (u0lmX)
How un-pc.
He prefers 'faggot.'
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (u0lmX)
How un-pc.
He prefers 'faggot.'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (/CXhS)
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the s86 background security check for the military doesn't ask about sexual orientation. at all. that would be a huge no no
Posted by: nckate at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (IZFV4)
I just filled mine out for my new one and yes they do not ask about sexual preference or any sexual history that I remember...although in my case that would have been a short page. LOL
Posted by: nckate at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (IZFV4)
I just filled mine out for my new one and yes they do not ask about sexual preference or any sexual history that I remember...although in my case that would have been a short page. LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (g31NN)
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I liked Milo a lot until he went full-on anti-semitic against Ben Shapiro. That was *not* cool.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (KUTP5)
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>>>Like somebody said upthread, this time they use it on a nest of vipers, the next time Soros uses it on somebody we like.
wrong. The left has been suing our institutions to destroy them and make them conform to their will for 60 years.
wrong. The left has been suing our institutions to destroy them and make them conform to their will for 60 years.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:37 PM (dciA+)
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Obama claims he's not going to apologize for Hiroshima, which is outraging Japanese who demand everyone apologize for not letting them win, but the thing is... he effectively is, by how he's acting and his other rhetoric about casualties of war.
Milo is pretty blatantly a pouf, but he's not the kind to go marching in parades with no pants or or something. He's just 'fabulous'
Milo is pretty blatantly a pouf, but he's not the kind to go marching in parades with no pants or or something. He's just 'fabulous'
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:37 PM (39g3+)
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Gawker, Hogan, PayPal and Facebook. I'm having trouble finding the "good guy" here.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 26, 2016 12:37 PM (ytI1T)
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Thiel has seen first hand how destructive a powerful and irresponsible media can be, but I suspect this is more than just revenge... he framed it as "philanthropy" in his NYT interview. I think there's a little "This one's for Justine" in there. Maybe not Justine Sacco specifically, but everyone like her who Gawker ruined over petty shit.
Posted by: Caiwyn at May 26, 2016 12:37 PM (qRZ5f)
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I haven't followed any of this. Except for Hulk Hogan, I have no idea who anyone else is. I guess I'll just lurk through this thread.
Posted by: Soona at May 26, 2016 12:37 PM (Fmupd)
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They're not buying they're renting for 22k per month.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:20 PM (/CXhS)
High end section 8 housing.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:20 PM (/CXhS)
High end section 8 housing.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 26, 2016 12:37 PM (oKE6c)
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>>>FWIW, I have a female friend that works for a defense contractor that requires a security clearance and they do ask them questions like how many sexual partners she has had, etc.
is she good to go?
just asking to be thorough
is she good to go?
just asking to be thorough
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:37 PM (dciA+)
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Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (dciA+)
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You seem to know an awful lot about the CIA, Mr. O'Spades...
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (iQIUe)
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Of course he does! Look at his hash.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:23 PM (dciA+)
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You seem to know an awful lot about the CIA, Mr. O'Spades...
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:26 PM (iQIUe)
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Of course he does! Look at his hash.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (kTF2Z)
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NGU, a bit of possible circularity here. If "sexual orientation" is no longer, ipso facto, a potential leverage point (i.e. it's been "normalized"), then .... it wouldn't be a point of interest for security checks.
I don't believe that "issue" is any longer an issue either in the military or the intel community, in itself. Therefore, not a leverage point.
So - perhaps disastrously ill-advised, dunno, but logical - IF being gay is no longer, automatically, leverage for blackmail.
I don't believe that "issue" is any longer an issue either in the military or the intel community, in itself. Therefore, not a leverage point.
So - perhaps disastrously ill-advised, dunno, but logical - IF being gay is no longer, automatically, leverage for blackmail.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (QDnY+)
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Can someone remind me who I should be rooting for here?
This isn't one you root for a winner in. You root for the worst guy to lose.
This isn't one you root for a winner in. You root for the worst guy to lose.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (39g3+)
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you never talk to a live human. And no hunch to hunch unless your way out of the norm
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:29 PM (g31NN)
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Your friends and neighbors do.
you never talk to a live human. And no hunch to hunch unless your way out of the norm
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:29 PM (g31NN)
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Your friends and neighbors do.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (pC96u)
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OK since we are on the subject...I had to sit thru a 3 hour GMT- General Military Training- about sex stuff and get this "tea bagging" was big part of it. Tea Bagging I kid you not. And taking pics of a female Sailor in the Shower.
Oh by the way so all yoos out there do not have wait 3 hours...both are wrong. LMAO
Oh by the way so all yoos out there do not have wait 3 hours...both are wrong. LMAO
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (g31NN)
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178 He's currently my favorite gay dude in the universe.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (u0lmX)
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Other than my cousin, my favorite gay dude is my wife's hair guy. We are having dinner tonight with he and his partner and, between the two of them, I expect to be laughing all night. Two of the funniest people I know.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:32 PM (u0lmX)
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Other than my cousin, my favorite gay dude is my wife's hair guy. We are having dinner tonight with he and his partner and, between the two of them, I expect to be laughing all night. Two of the funniest people I know.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:39 PM (/m8T6)
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wrong. The left has been suing our institutions to destroy them and make them conform to their will for 60 years.
Posted by: ace
Agreed, the right has never gained anything by pulling punches.
That's why I have no issue using the Left's tactics against them, they've already used them and will continue to do so.
Posted by: ace
Agreed, the right has never gained anything by pulling punches.
That's why I have no issue using the Left's tactics against them, they've already used them and will continue to do so.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:40 PM (LZgax)
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Milo???
Dude is fantastic.
See :Louder with Crowder.
TrigglyPuff.
Then watch the entire 1:30 video of the night at the University.
He is blunt.
But, he also was interviewed with Phil Robertson the other day at the Cannes Film Festival.
And Phil was worth listening to as well.
Dude is fantastic.
See :Louder with Crowder.
TrigglyPuff.
Then watch the entire 1:30 video of the night at the University.
He is blunt.
But, he also was interviewed with Phil Robertson the other day at the Cannes Film Festival.
And Phil was worth listening to as well.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 12:40 PM (ptqRm)
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my information about the cia comes from a book from 20 years ago. obviously things may have changed under Mx. Obama.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:40 PM (dciA+)
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I suspect Gawker has no friends. None. There are people who might dislike Peter Thiel more, and clearly the NYT article is to make him a big fat target, but nobody likes Gawker.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:40 PM (39g3+)
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Obozo called out Bernie, but he did it in a different way than calling out Trump.
He said (paraphrasing) Bernie was saying stupid stuff in the heat of battle. After the campaign was over he would be back to business as usual.
He said (paraphrasing) Bernie was saying stupid stuff in the heat of battle. After the campaign was over he would be back to business as usual.
Posted by: Hank at May 26, 2016 12:40 PM (GKsb7)
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>>"Can you imagine how corrupt the obama version of the Clinton Global Initiative is gonna be?"
Just a wild a$$ guess, but I could see Obama setting up his foundation - the Brother's Keeper thingy that is associated w/his Brother's Keeper charity org - so that it is populated by mostly government money. Thinks that's more his style - amassing yuuuge slush funds of taxpayer money to bankroll all his partisan activist things.
Well, that and some Soros money mixed in for good measure.
This way he wouldn't have to hustle half as hard as Bill and Hillary.
Just a wild a$$ guess, but I could see Obama setting up his foundation - the Brother's Keeper thingy that is associated w/his Brother's Keeper charity org - so that it is populated by mostly government money. Thinks that's more his style - amassing yuuuge slush funds of taxpayer money to bankroll all his partisan activist things.
Well, that and some Soros money mixed in for good measure.
This way he wouldn't have to hustle half as hard as Bill and Hillary.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:40 PM (NOIQH)
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IF being gay is no longer, automatically, leverage for blackmail.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (QDnY+)
obviously Theil does not feel that way? And jsut saying it does not make it true...legal or not in the Military, it is still an "issue"
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (QDnY+)
obviously Theil does not feel that way? And jsut saying it does not make it true...legal or not in the Military, it is still an "issue"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:41 PM (g31NN)
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Thanks for clearing that up
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (/m8T6)
No problem.
But the 6 million dollar house is currently owned by Joe Lockhart who had a salary of approximately $170,000 per year as Clintons press secretary.
Must be nice to know the Clinton Crime Family.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (/m8T6)
No problem.
But the 6 million dollar house is currently owned by Joe Lockhart who had a salary of approximately $170,000 per year as Clintons press secretary.
Must be nice to know the Clinton Crime Family.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:41 PM (/CXhS)
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Well good. Now I have a rooting interest. I guess.
Yay Ace!
Rah, rah SMOD!
Hip Hip Hooray Jezebel editors!!!
Yay Ace!
Rah, rah SMOD!
Hip Hip Hooray Jezebel editors!!!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 26, 2016 12:42 PM (NeFrd)
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can i ask why people aren't sure they should root for Peter Thiel, apart from the fact he's gay?
he's a libertarian/conservative. he's a fucking Trump delegate, for christ's sake.
What possible reason do people have to wish him ill apart from being a dreaded faggot?
he's a libertarian/conservative. he's a fucking Trump delegate, for christ's sake.
What possible reason do people have to wish him ill apart from being a dreaded faggot?
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:42 PM (dciA+)
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Your friends and neighbors do.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (pC96u)
A) depending on the level of clearance not necessarily
B) and I am sure they are NOT allowed to ask about your sexual preference
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (pC96u)
A) depending on the level of clearance not necessarily
B) and I am sure they are NOT allowed to ask about your sexual preference
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:42 PM (g31NN)
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I was honestly amazed they still get to do that in this day and age.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (LZgax)
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Again, the issue is not your sex life, but your susceptibility to blackmail.
I was honestly amazed they still get to do that in this day and age.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (LZgax)
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Again, the issue is not your sex life, but your susceptibility to blackmail.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:42 PM (pC96u)
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I dunno. If you're a gay guy who doesn't want people to know you're a gay guy, it seems cheaper just to stop being gay.
But what do I know.
But what do I know.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (O0lVq)
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Does he have anything to do with PayPal's attack on Georgia's religious liberty bill?
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (7HtZB)
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the myriad claims of "I'm not anti-gay, I just don't want it in my face" would be a little more believable if people didn't rush to make the GAY = ENEMY connection.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (dciA+)
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is she good to go?
just asking to be thorough
Posted by: ace
it was funny because we were at a dinner party and she was with her boyfriend and brought it up as a funny story and then I asked what her answer was.
She laughed and didn't give an answer but it's a HIGH number if she was being truthful. It has to be close to 50.
just asking to be thorough
Posted by: ace
it was funny because we were at a dinner party and she was with her boyfriend and brought it up as a funny story and then I asked what her answer was.
She laughed and didn't give an answer but it's a HIGH number if she was being truthful. It has to be close to 50.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (LZgax)
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This way he wouldn't have to hustle half as hard as Bill and Hillary.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:40 PM (NOIQH)
Poor Hillary has to stand in front of a bunch of suits and spew gibberish and platitudes for 30 minutes all for a lousy $325,000. It's exhausting, not to mention demeaning.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:40 PM (NOIQH)
Poor Hillary has to stand in front of a bunch of suits and spew gibberish and platitudes for 30 minutes all for a lousy $325,000. It's exhausting, not to mention demeaning.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (8ZskC)
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Must be nice to know the Clinton Crime Family.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:41 PM (/CXhS)
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This. Again, naive, but it is amazing that Lockhart somehow could pay for a house at that level.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:41 PM (/CXhS)
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This. Again, naive, but it is amazing that Lockhart somehow could pay for a house at that level.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (/m8T6)
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yes your right...I never heard of him till the left attacked him and then only really that the left attacked him. It really never occurs to this right wing bigot to ever ask or care about a person's sexual preference unless they stick it in my face. LMAO
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (g31NN)
In Milo's case, he flaunts it deliberately just to enrage the SJWs who turn up to screech at him, because it clearly drives them crazy that he's a flamingly gay man saying un-pc stuff.
When I've seen him just debating or presenting his POV without a hostile audience present, he comes across as thoughtful and far less flamboyant.
yes your right...I never heard of him till the left attacked him and then only really that the left attacked him. It really never occurs to this right wing bigot to ever ask or care about a person's sexual preference unless they stick it in my face. LMAO
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (g31NN)
In Milo's case, he flaunts it deliberately just to enrage the SJWs who turn up to screech at him, because it clearly drives them crazy that he's a flamingly gay man saying un-pc stuff.
When I've seen him just debating or presenting his POV without a hostile audience present, he comes across as thoughtful and far less flamboyant.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (u0lmX)
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>>>226 I dunno. If you're a gay guy who doesn't want people to know you're a gay guy, it seems cheaper just to stop being gay.
But what do I know.
Posted by: Marcus T
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so many heterosexual men, allegedly, constantly thinking about gay sex.
But what do I know.
Posted by: Marcus T
...
so many heterosexual men, allegedly, constantly thinking about gay sex.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (dciA+)
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Your friends and neighbors do.
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (pC96u)
Oh you give them the names and contacts of your references...they do not hit the pavement in your neighborhood asking about you anymore except in extrordanairy circumstances
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:38 PM (pC96u)
Oh you give them the names and contacts of your references...they do not hit the pavement in your neighborhood asking about you anymore except in extrordanairy circumstances
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:44 PM (g31NN)
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can i ask why people aren't sure they should root for Peter Thiel, apart from the fact he's gay?
Meh, he's a millionaire who can spare this money just to punish a media organization. He doesn't need our cheering.
Meh, he's a millionaire who can spare this money just to punish a media organization. He doesn't need our cheering.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:44 PM (39g3+)
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i thought we didn't like theil because of his stance on hb2 in nc and having paypal pull out of their deal with the state for moving some of their operations here
Posted by: nckate at May 26, 2016 12:45 PM (IZFV4)
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225 So - that weekend cabin-in-the-woods deal I had with Kate Upton is going to be a problem?
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2016 12:45 PM (6xtq3)
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>>>Meh, he's a millionaire who can spare this money just to punish a media organization. He doesn't need our cheering.
oh, that must be it. envy then.
oh, that must be it. envy then.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:45 PM (dciA+)
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189 FWIW, I have a female friend that works for a defense contractor that requires a security clearance and they do ask them questions like how many sexual partners she has had, etc.
I was honestly amazed they still get to do that in this day and age.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (LZgax)
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Did she tell you, you know, how many she's had? A friend of mine wants to know.
I was honestly amazed they still get to do that in this day and age.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:34 PM (LZgax)
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Did she tell you, you know, how many she's had? A friend of mine wants to know.
Posted by: Soona at May 26, 2016 12:45 PM (Fmupd)
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the myriad claims of "I'm not anti-gay, I just don't want it in my face" would be a little more believable if people didn't rush to make the GAY = ENEMY connection.
What, we aren't cheering loud enough for you?
What, we aren't cheering loud enough for you?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:45 PM (39g3+)
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Meh, he's a millionaire who can spare this money just to punish a media organization. He doesn't need our cheering.
Maybe, but He took down that slime Gawker so He's got My cheer.... Bravo...
Maybe, but He took down that slime Gawker so He's got My cheer.... Bravo...
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:45 PM (O2RFr)
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so many heterosexual men, allegedly, constantly thinking about gay sex.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (dciA+)
But are they #ManEnough4Hillary
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (dciA+)
But are they #ManEnough4Hillary
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (/CXhS)
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (dciA+)
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Just a wild a$$ guess, but I could see Obama setting up his foundation - the Brother's Keeper thingy that is associated w/his Brother's Keeper charity org - so that it is populated by mostly government money. Thinks that's more his style - amassing yuuuge slush funds of taxpayer money to bankroll all his partisan activist things.
Well, that and some Soros money mixed in for good measure.
This way he wouldn't have to hustle half as hard as Bill and Hillary.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:40 PM (NOIQH)
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That's pretty much how Al Gore got rich. Legislative coercion to buy his green products and services.
Good call, because I always wondered just how Obama was going to compete against the Clintons for all that money. It turns out he needn't; the GOPe Congress will just vote it from our pockets to his (and probably their own to some extent).
Just a wild a$$ guess, but I could see Obama setting up his foundation - the Brother's Keeper thingy that is associated w/his Brother's Keeper charity org - so that it is populated by mostly government money. Thinks that's more his style - amassing yuuuge slush funds of taxpayer money to bankroll all his partisan activist things.
Well, that and some Soros money mixed in for good measure.
This way he wouldn't have to hustle half as hard as Bill and Hillary.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:40 PM (NOIQH)
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That's pretty much how Al Gore got rich. Legislative coercion to buy his green products and services.
Good call, because I always wondered just how Obama was going to compete against the Clintons for all that money. It turns out he needn't; the GOPe Congress will just vote it from our pockets to his (and probably their own to some extent).
Posted by: iforgot at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (pC96u)
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Well revenge is a dish best served cold. Unless, like my ancestors, you'd take a captive, tie him down and build a fire on his stomach. That worked pretty good too.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (Sda6L)
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Is it wrong that this story makes me want to snap into a Slim Jim?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (u0s1P)
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223 Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:42 PM (dciA+)
Reason in its way is like a funhouse mirror version of the Never Trumpers....
as I said in my FIRST post I personally am thrilled for and by Thiel's gambit....
Reason was very much a Milton Friedman style libertarian mag that has slowly over time been seen as being more Libertine than Libertarian....
That could make some people leery, he is also a genuine no shit Bilderberger....
not arguable at all, but a lot like the Skull and Bones Society I personally think the conspiracy mongering on that is overwrought....
people didn't seem to mind an open-aired conspiracy of the Bill Ayers Communist Weather Underground Network getting THEIR guy in....why sweat the Bilderbergers?
Reason in its way is like a funhouse mirror version of the Never Trumpers....
as I said in my FIRST post I personally am thrilled for and by Thiel's gambit....
Reason was very much a Milton Friedman style libertarian mag that has slowly over time been seen as being more Libertine than Libertarian....
That could make some people leery, he is also a genuine no shit Bilderberger....
not arguable at all, but a lot like the Skull and Bones Society I personally think the conspiracy mongering on that is overwrought....
people didn't seem to mind an open-aired conspiracy of the Bill Ayers Communist Weather Underground Network getting THEIR guy in....why sweat the Bilderbergers?
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (g8Hfr)
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the myriad claims of "I'm not anti-gay, I just don't want it in my face" would be a little more believable if people didn't rush to make the GAY = ENEMY connection.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (dciA+)
If that's aimed at me, I never said anything of the like...but to deny a problem exists by sticking your head in the sand is foolish. Does the name Bradley Manning ring a bell?
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (dciA+)
If that's aimed at me, I never said anything of the like...but to deny a problem exists by sticking your head in the sand is foolish. Does the name Bradley Manning ring a bell?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (g31NN)
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>>>What, we aren't cheering loud enough for you?
it's just pretty clear you dislike gay people on sight.
it's just pretty clear you dislike gay people on sight.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (dciA+)
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***"...but one could see how this might play out in other circumstances, where a tech billionaire secretly bankrolls legal action against a conservative media outlet while pretending to be totes impartial."***
Sorry if anyone already pointed out the obvious, but doesn't this pretty much describe the state of the modern American political-media complex?
Sorry if anyone already pointed out the obvious, but doesn't this pretty much describe the state of the modern American political-media complex?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 26, 2016 12:47 PM (Wckf4)
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200 I liked Milo a lot until he went full-on anti-semitic against Ben Shapiro. That was *not* cool.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (KUTP5)
Huh? Milo's mother is Jewish. He shares the stage with Christina Hoff-Sommers who is Jewish.
I realize there is bad blood between them because of Trump, which is unfortunate because I like Shapiro too.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (KUTP5)
Huh? Milo's mother is Jewish. He shares the stage with Christina Hoff-Sommers who is Jewish.
I realize there is bad blood between them because of Trump, which is unfortunate because I like Shapiro too.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:47 PM (u0lmX)
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Bernie was saying stupid stuff in the heat of battle. After the campaign was over he would be back to business as usual.
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So foaming at the mouth lunatic?
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So foaming at the mouth lunatic?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 26, 2016 12:47 PM (Nwg0u)
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245 Well revenge is a dish best served cold. Unless, like my ancestors, you'd take a captive, tie him down and build a fire on his stomach. That worked pretty good too.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (Sda6L)
This is why the Horde really likes the Comanches.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (Sda6L)
This is why the Horde really likes the Comanches.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at May 26, 2016 12:47 PM (RD7QR)
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Meh, he's a millionaire who can spare this money just to punish a media organization. He doesn't need our cheering.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
He's probably the only friend the Right has in Silicon Valley, at least publicly.
He deserves our support imo, even if this scalp doesn't necessarily seem like it falls on the Left/Right paradigm
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
He's probably the only friend the Right has in Silicon Valley, at least publicly.
He deserves our support imo, even if this scalp doesn't necessarily seem like it falls on the Left/Right paradigm
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:47 PM (LZgax)
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i didn't even know the dude was gay. i don't care enough.
Posted by: nckate at May 26, 2016 12:48 PM (IZFV4)
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This. Again, naive, but it is amazing that Lockhart somehow could pay for a house at that level.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (/m8T6)
Apparently he worked for Facebook so that probably paid pretty well. Now he has a consulting group called Glover Park Group.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (/m8T6)
Apparently he worked for Facebook so that probably paid pretty well. Now he has a consulting group called Glover Park Group.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:49 PM (/CXhS)
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>>>Huh? Milo's mother is Jewish.
maybe so but he spends most of his time lately defending Nazis and anti-semites as just some spirited lads up for a lark.
maybe so but he spends most of his time lately defending Nazis and anti-semites as just some spirited lads up for a lark.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:49 PM (dciA+)
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Ace,
I don't know if you do Face Book.
But, DePaul University is getting it's ass handed to it on it's own FB page.
I don't know if you do Face Book.
But, DePaul University is getting it's ass handed to it on it's own FB page.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 26, 2016 12:49 PM (ptqRm)
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>>What possible reason do people have to wish him ill apart from being a dreaded faggot?
I guess it's the hiding behind another person (Hulk) to get revenge after seeing how people like Soros operate? Like how Zuckerberg finances that fake Republican pro-immigration group. I know, the latter is political, the former is personal. It's Theil's money and he is welcome to spend it as he wants.
I don't know anything about Theil, nor do I care about his sexual preferences. I'm just a tad weary after watching the way facebook, apple, and google execs have done sketchy stuff for Obama, Merkel, and/or LGBT activists, etc. the past few years. Maybe not rational, but there it is.
But I do haaate Gawker and take pleasure in Nick Denton's personal ruin.
I guess it's the hiding behind another person (Hulk) to get revenge after seeing how people like Soros operate? Like how Zuckerberg finances that fake Republican pro-immigration group. I know, the latter is political, the former is personal. It's Theil's money and he is welcome to spend it as he wants.
I don't know anything about Theil, nor do I care about his sexual preferences. I'm just a tad weary after watching the way facebook, apple, and google execs have done sketchy stuff for Obama, Merkel, and/or LGBT activists, etc. the past few years. Maybe not rational, but there it is.
But I do haaate Gawker and take pleasure in Nick Denton's personal ruin.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:49 PM (NOIQH)
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255 i didn't even know the dude was gay. i don't care enough.
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As it should be.
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As it should be.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:49 PM (/m8T6)
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Apparently he worked for Facebook so that probably paid pretty well. Now he has a consulting group called Glover Park Group.
A subsidiary of Clinton Global Initiative?
A subsidiary of Clinton Global Initiative?
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:49 PM (O2RFr)
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248 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2016 12:46 PM (g31NN)
Bradley Brianna Chelsea ButtPlug Manning would never happen today.
1) DoD will cut a check to blow his duck off faster than they'll fund cancer treatment....
2) the real motive for Brianna was butthurt(pun intended) at the Bush administration daring to be Republican...he worships Donkey
The real splinter point in the lad's make-up was partisan not sexual....sex was the excuse.
Bradley Brianna Chelsea ButtPlug Manning would never happen today.
1) DoD will cut a check to blow his duck off faster than they'll fund cancer treatment....
2) the real motive for Brianna was butthurt(pun intended) at the Bush administration daring to be Republican...he worships Donkey
The real splinter point in the lad's make-up was partisan not sexual....sex was the excuse.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:50 PM (g8Hfr)
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Left, right, I root for casualties pretty much exclusively these days.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 26, 2016 12:50 PM (9krrF)
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228 the myriad claims of "I'm not anti-gay, I just don't want it in my face" would be a little more believable if people didn't rush to make the GAY = ENEMY connection.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (dciA+)
To be fair, most conservatives have been conditioned to think that any discussion of the gay lifestyle/rights/marriage, is merely a foil used to push a liberal worldview. Tends to make people a bit edgy and wary.
On the other hand, I think people do not really understand that for the left, gay people are no more important than black people. They are merely a way to get people to destroy the establishment- whatever that might be. If there was a monolithic gay conservative movement, then they would be against them too. And they are in the case of log cabin republicans or people like Milo.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (dciA+)
To be fair, most conservatives have been conditioned to think that any discussion of the gay lifestyle/rights/marriage, is merely a foil used to push a liberal worldview. Tends to make people a bit edgy and wary.
On the other hand, I think people do not really understand that for the left, gay people are no more important than black people. They are merely a way to get people to destroy the establishment- whatever that might be. If there was a monolithic gay conservative movement, then they would be against them too. And they are in the case of log cabin republicans or people like Milo.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2016 12:50 PM (3ZoRf)
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Thiel also deserves Kudos for calling out Higher Education for the financial scam its become.
He famously made an offer to pay people to not go to college.
I see him as a sort of Breitbart type figure that "gets it" and knows where to make the right investments
He famously made an offer to pay people to not go to college.
I see him as a sort of Breitbart type figure that "gets it" and knows where to make the right investments
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:50 PM (LZgax)
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>>This. Again, naive, but it is amazing that Lockhart somehow could pay for a house at that level.
Thought I read that Lockhart is now a VP of communications or something for the NFL.
Thought I read that Lockhart is now a VP of communications or something for the NFL.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:50 PM (NOIQH)
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>>so many heterosexual men, allegedly, constantly thinking about gay sex.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (dciA+)
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I work with and have numerous friends who are gay. This is NY, after all. They are constantly amazed in this day and age that people who they say "presume" to be gay- just don't come out. It's not like anyone really gives a shit. Today someone states "they're gay", and we're like, great, nobody cares. Now shut up and get back to work.
I disagree with their lifestyle. But I am not judgmental.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (dciA+)
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I work with and have numerous friends who are gay. This is NY, after all. They are constantly amazed in this day and age that people who they say "presume" to be gay- just don't come out. It's not like anyone really gives a shit. Today someone states "they're gay", and we're like, great, nobody cares. Now shut up and get back to work.
I disagree with their lifestyle. But I am not judgmental.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2016 12:51 PM (O0lVq)
Posted by: Peter Thiel at May 26, 2016 12:51 PM (/77HP)
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can i ask why people aren't sure they should root for Peter Thiel, apart from the fact he's gay?
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Speaking for myself, I'm not rooting for or against Peter Thiel. I've never heard of Peter Thiel. It's kind of like if the Tampa Bay Lightning knock off the Penguins and we're looking at a San Jose/Tampa Bay Stanley Cup Finals. Other than the fact that the two towns have rhyming names I don't have a rooting interest. Whereas I (for nonsensical reasons) would have watched a Pittsburgh v. St. Louis finals, I probably won't watch San Jose v. Tampa Bay.
More apathy than antipathy.
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Speaking for myself, I'm not rooting for or against Peter Thiel. I've never heard of Peter Thiel. It's kind of like if the Tampa Bay Lightning knock off the Penguins and we're looking at a San Jose/Tampa Bay Stanley Cup Finals. Other than the fact that the two towns have rhyming names I don't have a rooting interest. Whereas I (for nonsensical reasons) would have watched a Pittsburgh v. St. Louis finals, I probably won't watch San Jose v. Tampa Bay.
More apathy than antipathy.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 26, 2016 12:51 PM (NeFrd)
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they do ask them questions like how many sexual partners she has had, etc.
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Did she say, "Are you asking?"
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Did she say, "Are you asking?"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 26, 2016 12:52 PM (Nwg0u)
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I think most people are looking at this as Hulk Hogan vs Gawker, and the millionaire is just the money guy, so he's not part of the equation. The choice between those two? Hard to find a hero.
Or, it could just be lots of hate for homosexuals, as ace seems convinced.
Or, it could just be lots of hate for homosexuals, as ace seems convinced.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:52 PM (39g3+)
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>>>I guess it's the hiding behind another person (Hulk) to get revenge after seeing how people like Soros operate?
why would anyone object to using the left's tactics against the left?
I don't get it.
why would anyone object to using the left's tactics against the left?
I don't get it.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:52 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:52 PM (iQIUe)
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"Clover Park Group", huh. K Street must have hundreds of these firms, working for large companies and foreign governments I suppose. I am imagining that it's all a way to funnel political payoffs, in the end Trump could probably explain it to me.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:52 PM (/m8T6)
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I don't know anything about Theil, nor do I care about his sexual preferences. I'm just a tad weary after watching the way facebook, apple, and google execs have done sketchy stuff for Obama, Merkel, and/or LGBT activists, etc. the past few years. Maybe not rational, but there it is.
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Here's the things, if we don't engage in these tactics, does that mean the Left will follow suit?
Of course not, they're already doing all of these nefarious things and will continue to do so, so why the desire to unilaterally disarm ourselves?
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Here's the things, if we don't engage in these tactics, does that mean the Left will follow suit?
Of course not, they're already doing all of these nefarious things and will continue to do so, so why the desire to unilaterally disarm ourselves?
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:53 PM (LZgax)
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maybe so but he spends most of his time lately defending Nazis and anti-semites as just some spirited lads up for a lark.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:49 PM (dciA+)
I didn't know that.
Well, shit.
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:49 PM (dciA+)
I didn't know that.
Well, shit.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 26, 2016 12:53 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette lives for the barrel! at May 26, 2016 12:53 PM (qCMvj)
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A subsidiary of Clinton Global Initiative?
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:49 PM (O2RFr)
Glover Park early work included preparation work for then-Senator Hillary Clinton for her re-election campaign of 2006.
Sp yeah, probably.
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:49 PM (O2RFr)
Glover Park early work included preparation work for then-Senator Hillary Clinton for her re-election campaign of 2006.
Sp yeah, probably.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:53 PM (/CXhS)
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231---This. Again, naive, but it is amazing that Lockhart somehow could pay for a house at that level.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (/m8T6)
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1) Don't take the $170,000 too seriously. That's just the official figure, which doesn't include possible bonuses.
2) Lockhart's wife was chief of the DC office of Glamour magazine and probably made much more than hubby.
3) Lockhart and/or wife might be independently wealthy, trust-fund babies or such.
4) For all we know, the Lockharts bought the place AFTER government "service," when he was cashing in on his connections.
Posted by: MTF at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (/m8T6)
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1) Don't take the $170,000 too seriously. That's just the official figure, which doesn't include possible bonuses.
2) Lockhart's wife was chief of the DC office of Glamour magazine and probably made much more than hubby.
3) Lockhart and/or wife might be independently wealthy, trust-fund babies or such.
4) For all we know, the Lockharts bought the place AFTER government "service," when he was cashing in on his connections.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2016 12:54 PM (T/5A0)
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I should have said patriotic Asian American Trump supporter...
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 12:54 PM (iQIUe)
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255 i didn't even know the dude was gay. i don't care enough.
Posted by: nckate at May 26, 2016 12:48 PM (IZFV4)
You will be made to care.
Posted by: nckate at May 26, 2016 12:48 PM (IZFV4)
You will be made to care.
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2016 12:54 PM (7HtZB)
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272 Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:52 PM (dciA+)
"Honor! MORALS!"
//Never Trump Special Forces
In the end Ace a lot of people keep their minds in the world they wish was rather than the world that is.
//Why We Lose Chapter 765
"Honor! MORALS!"
//Never Trump Special Forces
In the end Ace a lot of people keep their minds in the world they wish was rather than the world that is.
//Why We Lose Chapter 765
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:54 PM (g8Hfr)
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>>why would anyone object to using the left's tactics against the left?
Good point - so Theil isn't a Lefty?
Good point - so Theil isn't a Lefty?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:55 PM (NOIQH)
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She laughed and didn't give an answer but it's a HIGH number if she was being truthful. It has to be close to 50.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (LZgax)
Which means she should be considered a security risk. People who sleep around like that aren't too stable and usually have issues that explain their sleeping around so much.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (LZgax)
Which means she should be considered a security risk. People who sleep around like that aren't too stable and usually have issues that explain their sleeping around so much.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 26, 2016 12:56 PM (Ee2nz)
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What's the percentage of gays that vote Democrat? As individuals they aren't necessarily my enemy but as a group, it's hard not to think of them that way. Same for any block of voters that vote with the Left.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:56 PM (JJev6)
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I am certain that big time hard left guys with connections get special deals for stuff like housing and such in NYC. Its who you know, etc. So the listed prices and market values, etc, not necessarily what they have to pay.
Like how you get free stuff given to you in the hopes you'll use it publicly when you're a super rich celebrity.
Like how you get free stuff given to you in the hopes you'll use it publicly when you're a super rich celebrity.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:57 PM (39g3+)
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@283: He's donated heavily to Club for Growth, McCain/Palin, and Ted Cruz, among many, many other conservative-type things.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 26, 2016 12:57 PM (KUTP5)
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Thought I read that Lockhart is now a VP of communications or something for the NFL.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:50 PM (NOIQH)
Yep. Started in February.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:50 PM (NOIQH)
Yep. Started in February.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 12:57 PM (/CXhS)
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285 What's the percentage of gays that vote Democrat? As individuals they aren't necessarily my enemy but as a group, it's hard not to think of them that way. Same for any block of voters that vote with the Left.
Husband did some work for a gay couple and they hated obama and Hillary! Dyed in the wool Conservatives...
Husband did some work for a gay couple and they hated obama and Hillary! Dyed in the wool Conservatives...
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2016 12:58 PM (O2RFr)
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283 Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:55 PM (NOIQH)
Not at all, Thiel is the type of person we should be courting as a hedge against Soros' cabal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel
He *is* what he is, and he is an open borders Libertine Libertarian....
Rich, kind of hung up on anti-aging research....
Club for Growth backer....
ie
"Ally"
Not at all, Thiel is the type of person we should be courting as a hedge against Soros' cabal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel
He *is* what he is, and he is an open borders Libertine Libertarian....
Rich, kind of hung up on anti-aging research....
Club for Growth backer....
ie
"Ally"
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 12:58 PM (g8Hfr)
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I've had a clearance for around 25 years. The only things they ask about are your finances, your out of country travel, and who you've lived with.
Beyond the who are your parents type questions.
Beyond the who are your parents type questions.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 26, 2016 12:58 PM (kZVsz)
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287 @283: He's donated heavily to Club for Growth, McCain/Palin, and Ted Cruz, among many, many other conservative-type things.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 26, 2016 12:57 PM (KUTP5)
Hence why he had to be outed
Posted by: Ian S. at May 26, 2016 12:57 PM (KUTP5)
Hence why he had to be outed
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at May 26, 2016 12:58 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 26, 2016 12:58 PM (NeFrd)
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285 What's the percentage of gays that vote Democrat? As individuals they aren't necessarily my enemy but as a group, it's hard not to think of them that way. Same for any block of voters that vote with the Left.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck
Thiel's your enemy joe. he's a trump delegate.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck
Thiel's your enemy joe. he's a trump delegate.
Posted by: x at May 26, 2016 12:58 PM (nFwvY)
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Go Theil go
Posted by: ThunderB at May 26, 2016 12:59 PM (4E3wM)
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What's the percentage of gays that vote Democrat? As individuals they aren't necessarily my enemy but as a group, it's hard not to think of them that way. Same for any block of voters that vote with the Left.
Oh, that's not a tiny bit creepy.
Oh, that's not a tiny bit creepy.
Posted by: Negroes Everywhere at May 26, 2016 12:59 PM (1xUj/)
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>>Of course not, they're already doing all of these nefarious things and
will continue to do so, so why the desire to unilaterally disarm
ourselves?
I don't, just didn't know Theil was a conservative.
Last time I saw PayPal in the news they were cancelling plans to set up an office in SC over the HB2 bathroom bill. Assumed he was just one of the many young, uber-Lefty tech execs trying to push Obama's agenda.
will continue to do so, so why the desire to unilaterally disarm
ourselves?
I don't, just didn't know Theil was a conservative.
Last time I saw PayPal in the news they were cancelling plans to set up an office in SC over the HB2 bathroom bill. Assumed he was just one of the many young, uber-Lefty tech execs trying to push Obama's agenda.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 12:59 PM (NOIQH)
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I've had a clearance for around 25 years. The only things they ask about are your finances, your out of country travel, and who you've lived with.
It was 30 years ago, but when my buddy went into the Air Force and was put into their crypto department they grilled us (his friends) pretty extensively on his ideas and proclivities.
It was 30 years ago, but when my buddy went into the Air Force and was put into their crypto department they grilled us (his friends) pretty extensively on his ideas and proclivities.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:59 PM (39g3+)
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Are there prosthetic buns for prematurely balding millineals?
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2016 01:00 PM (6xtq3)
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The guy had to be outed because he's a "hypocrite". The author of that stupid HuffPo piece admits it freely in the comments.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 26, 2016 01:00 PM (kZVsz)
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277
ot
hot Britney Spears vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H31vvgj8ys
get yer mind off things
Posted by: artisanal 'ette lives for the barrel! at May 26, 2016 12:53 PM (qCMvj)
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She's starting to look old.
ot
hot Britney Spears vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H31vvgj8ys
get yer mind off things
Posted by: artisanal 'ette lives for the barrel! at May 26, 2016 12:53 PM (qCMvj)
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She's starting to look old.
Posted by: Soona at May 26, 2016 01:00 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 01:01 PM (g8Hfr)
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299 Are there prosthetic buns for prematurely balding millineals?
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2016 01:00 PM (6xtq3)
Sadly yes. Yes there are.
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2016 01:00 PM (6xtq3)
Sadly yes. Yes there are.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 26, 2016 01:01 PM (/CXhS)
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Is that the one for bald people?
No, its the one you get the razors from in the mail, I think.
Hence why he had to be outed
Exactly, you can tell who his enemies are and who has antipathy toward him.
Its not people who can't find someone to cheer for in the fight. Its the people who want to destroy him.
Is that the one for bald people?
No, its the one you get the razors from in the mail, I think.
Hence why he had to be outed
Exactly, you can tell who his enemies are and who has antipathy toward him.
Its not people who can't find someone to cheer for in the fight. Its the people who want to destroy him.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 01:01 PM (39g3+)
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>>The guy had to be outed because he's a "hypocrite". The author of that stupid HuffPo piece admits it freely in the comments.
Gawd, the Left are such d*cks.
Gawd, the Left are such d*cks.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2016 01:02 PM (NOIQH)
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She laughed and didn't give an answer but it's a HIGH number if she was being truthful. It has to be close to 50.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (LZgax)
Which means she should be considered a security risk. People who sleep around like that aren't too stable and usually have issues that explain their sleeping around so much.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist
________________
In this day and age, I don't think it matters as much.
it didn't hurt her as she's still there, it's one of the biggest defense firms in the world, and she makes good money.
her particular role would have very little value to a foreign enemy, even if she told them everything she knows.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 12:43 PM (LZgax)
Which means she should be considered a security risk. People who sleep around like that aren't too stable and usually have issues that explain their sleeping around so much.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist
________________
In this day and age, I don't think it matters as much.
it didn't hurt her as she's still there, it's one of the biggest defense firms in the world, and she makes good money.
her particular role would have very little value to a foreign enemy, even if she told them everything she knows.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 01:02 PM (LZgax)
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300 Posted by: Chupacabra at May 26, 2016 01:00 PM (kZVsz)
That's the thing he was NEVER a hypocrite....
He is a man who loves men who is a libertarian who favors free market solutions...
there is no gay economics or straight economics there is get this PuffHo economics.
God I hate the media.
That's the thing he was NEVER a hypocrite....
He is a man who loves men who is a libertarian who favors free market solutions...
there is no gay economics or straight economics there is get this PuffHo economics.
God I hate the media.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 01:02 PM (g8Hfr)
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her particular role would have very little value to a foreign enemy, even if she told them everything she knows.
My guess is that's more the deciding factor than some shift in perception.
My guess is that's more the deciding factor than some shift in perception.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 01:03 PM (39g3+)
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Crypto guys carry Top Secret clearances. The gov't will interview your elementary school teachers for that one.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 26, 2016 01:03 PM (kZVsz)
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Anytime an individual hits back against the media, my first instinct is to side with the individual.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2016 01:03 PM (Z+1Ng)
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303 Damnit! Everytime I invent something, someone else beats m eto it.
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2016 01:04 PM (6xtq3)
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Ari Melber MSNBC*
A 1-percenter trying to destroy a media outlet for slights is horrifying to anyone who backs a free press
*Chief Legal Correspondent for MSNBC. Lawyer. A little fuzzy on the First Amendment.
Ari Melber MSNBC*
A 1-percenter trying to destroy a media outlet for slights is horrifying to anyone who backs a free press
*Chief Legal Correspondent for MSNBC. Lawyer. A little fuzzy on the First Amendment.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 26, 2016 01:04 PM (kdS6q)
313
That IRS story in the sidebar sounds like a cop giving you a ticket for doing 33 mph in a 35 mph zone because you were just trying to not get a ticket for going over 35 mph.
Posted by: Dang at May 26, 2016 01:05 PM (/77HP)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2016 01:05 PM (Z+1Ng)
315
Honestly, is outing somebody as gay a thing anymore? Does anybody really care? I think it's more about Thiels beliefs, not his sexual preference.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2016 01:06 PM (O0lVq)
316
What's the percentage of gays that vote Democrat? As individuals they aren't necessarily my enemy but as a group, it's hard not to think of them that way. Same for any block of voters that vote with the Left.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:56 PM (JJev6)
I'll be sure to keep this in mind.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:56 PM (JJev6)
I'll be sure to keep this in mind.
Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 26, 2016 01:06 PM (mf5HN)
317
I guess I'm just not seeing this as some landmark battle in the war of THEM vs. US (however you might choose to define those two words). More like a slap fight over a personal grievance.
If it's a key battle in the culture wars I must just be dense. YMMV
If it's a key battle in the culture wars I must just be dense. YMMV
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 26, 2016 01:06 PM (NeFrd)
318
Crypto guys carry Top Secret clearances. The gov't will interview your elementary school teachers for that one.
Good luck. They all died of old age before I got out of hs 34 years ago.
Trust me. 9 teachers, collective age was 540.
Good luck. They all died of old age before I got out of hs 34 years ago.
Trust me. 9 teachers, collective age was 540.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2016 01:06 PM (EdhH3)
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 26, 2016 01:07 PM (kZVsz)
320
can i ask why people aren't sure they should root for Peter Thiel, apart from the fact he's gay?
he's a libertarian/conservative. he's a fucking Trump delegate, for christ's sake.
What possible reason do people have to wish him ill apart from being a dreaded faggot?
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:42 PM (dciA+)
who wouldn't think this is awesome
dunno sometimes
this guy went in like a Trojan and destroyed the bashtards. Good for him. Brilliant.
he's a libertarian/conservative. he's a fucking Trump delegate, for christ's sake.
What possible reason do people have to wish him ill apart from being a dreaded faggot?
Posted by: ace at May 26, 2016 12:42 PM (dciA+)
who wouldn't think this is awesome
dunno sometimes
this guy went in like a Trojan and destroyed the bashtards. Good for him. Brilliant.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette lives for the barrel! at May 26, 2016 01:07 PM (qCMvj)
321
I've had a clearance for around 25 years. The only things they ask about are your finances, your out of country travel, and who you've lived with.
Beyond the who are your parents type questions.
Posted by: Chupacabra
Not all clearances are the same and different questions are asked.
Sexual history is definitely on some of them even today , that's not urban legend
Beyond the who are your parents type questions.
Posted by: Chupacabra
Not all clearances are the same and different questions are asked.
Sexual history is definitely on some of them even today , that's not urban legend
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 01:07 PM (LZgax)
322
296 Posted by: Negroes Everywhere at May 26, 2016 12:59 PM (1xUj/)
90+%
Posted by: sven10077
Right.
That was aimed at people like you.
Go with the percentage and not the individual.
90+%
Posted by: sven10077
Right.
That was aimed at people like you.
Go with the percentage and not the individual.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2016 01:07 PM (1xUj/)
323
314 Go with your strengths weasel.
Think "Long Range Competitive Man Bun Shooting".
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2016 01:05 PM (Z+1Ng)
*****
hmmmm... yeah! Sort of a Robin Hood spin!
Think "Long Range Competitive Man Bun Shooting".
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2016 01:05 PM (Z+1Ng)
*****
hmmmm... yeah! Sort of a Robin Hood spin!
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2016 01:08 PM (6xtq3)
324
Fuck Gawker. I hope they are destroyed. Gawker's a festering carbuncle on the ass of Internet media.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 26, 2016 01:09 PM (0mRoj)
325
What's the percentage of gays that vote Democrat?
As individuals they aren't necessarily my enemy but as a group, it's
hard not to think of them that way. Same for any block of voters that
vote with the Left.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:56 PM (JJev6)
As a logic exercise, you're only talking about half of the equation. You have to be able to complete the loop, which is to say, if you are able to identify the common attributes that predominate a group, you also must be able to identify the outliers, or in some cases, not just outliers, but the sometimes large minority.
As individuals they aren't necessarily my enemy but as a group, it's
hard not to think of them that way. Same for any block of voters that
vote with the Left.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 12:56 PM (JJev6)
As a logic exercise, you're only talking about half of the equation. You have to be able to complete the loop, which is to say, if you are able to identify the common attributes that predominate a group, you also must be able to identify the outliers, or in some cases, not just outliers, but the sometimes large minority.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 26, 2016 01:09 PM (TOk1P)
326
314 Go with your strengths weasel.
Think "Long Range Competitive Man Bun Shooting".
4 city blocks, ricochet off the one way sign ftw?
Think "Long Range Competitive Man Bun Shooting".
4 city blocks, ricochet off the one way sign ftw?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2016 01:09 PM (EdhH3)
327
This is why I was happy to hear Trump say he would seek to change the defamation laws. Why shd there be a higher burden of proof to sue the media for wrong doing? They are nothing but an arm of the DNC or in it to make a buck only. They have nothing to do with freedom but act just the opposite.
This is why I was happy to hear Trump say he would seek to change the defamation laws. Why shd there be a higher burden of proof to sue the media for wrong doing? They are nothing but an arm of the DNC or in it to make a buck only. They have nothing to do with freedom but act just the opposite.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 26, 2016 01:10 PM (iQIUe)
328
Not all clearances are the same and different questions are asked.
Sexual history is definitely on some of them even today , that's not urban legend
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 01:07 PM (LZgax)
Every past partner could potentially blackmail you, so it is relevant to security clearance. Sex for secrets is the oldest trick in the spy handbook. For that reason alone BJ Clinton should have been impeached.
Sexual history is definitely on some of them even today , that's not urban legend
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 01:07 PM (LZgax)
Every past partner could potentially blackmail you, so it is relevant to security clearance. Sex for secrets is the oldest trick in the spy handbook. For that reason alone BJ Clinton should have been impeached.
Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2016 01:10 PM (7HtZB)
329
Gawker is and always has been an upstanding member of the enemy camp. You weren't going to take them down with appeals to logic, reason, or ethics. Only something that was only "sort of" underhanded was going to take them down.
They deserved what they got. The Right's been getting this for decades, so it's nice to see someone on the Right finally willing to get dirty. Just like it's nice to see some real pushback starting to happen against universities and companies that tow the SJW line.
They deserved what they got. The Right's been getting this for decades, so it's nice to see someone on the Right finally willing to get dirty. Just like it's nice to see some real pushback starting to happen against universities and companies that tow the SJW line.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 26, 2016 01:10 PM (Wckf4)
330
I liked Milo a lot until he went full-on anti-semitic against Ben Shapiro. That was *not* cool.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (KUTP5)
oh oh
I like Ben a lot.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 26, 2016 12:36 PM (KUTP5)
oh oh
I like Ben a lot.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette lives for the barrel! at May 26, 2016 01:11 PM (qCMvj)
331
Hell hath no fury look like ladyman scorned.
Posted by: DanMan at May 26, 2016 01:11 PM (RusNE)
332
Honestly, is outing somebody as gay a thing anymore?
Does anybody really care? I think it's more about Thiels beliefs, not
his sexual preference.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2016 01:06 PM (O0lVq)
Apparently HE cares. Whether you do or not doesn't seem to have entered into his decision making process.
Does anybody really care? I think it's more about Thiels beliefs, not
his sexual preference.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2016 01:06 PM (O0lVq)
Apparently HE cares. Whether you do or not doesn't seem to have entered into his decision making process.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 26, 2016 01:11 PM (TOk1P)
333
This is why I was happy to hear Trump say he would seek to change the defamation laws. Why shd there be a higher burden of proof to sue the media for wrong doing? They are nothing but an arm of the DNC or in it to make a buck only. They have nothing to do with freedom but act just the opposite.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
Careful, this where the NeverTrumpers make their case that Trump is a super Fascist Authoritarian, because he threatened to use lawfare against sleazeball news agencies.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
Careful, this where the NeverTrumpers make their case that Trump is a super Fascist Authoritarian, because he threatened to use lawfare against sleazeball news agencies.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 01:11 PM (LZgax)
334
Think "Long Range Competitive Man Bun Shooting".
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2016 01:05 PM
Wait...that's a sport? I see the basis here for a MoMee version of the Olympics....
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2016 01:05 PM
Wait...that's a sport? I see the basis here for a MoMee version of the Olympics....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2016 01:11 PM (bzd8I)
335
322 Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2016 01:07 PM (1xUj/)
I don't see the NAACP, La Raza, or the Black Panthers doing a lot of "individual targeting"...they are winning.
Adapt or die.
I don't see the NAACP, La Raza, or the Black Panthers doing a lot of "individual targeting"...they are winning.
Adapt or die.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 01:11 PM (g8Hfr)
336
More like a slap fight over a personal grievance.
Yeah, its not some clash of titans. Its a douchebag suing an even worse douchebag over douchey behavior. Do I want Gawker to go down? Sure. They are awful. But this isn't like the NYT being successfully prosecuted for excessive bias or something.
Yeah, its not some clash of titans. Its a douchebag suing an even worse douchebag over douchey behavior. Do I want Gawker to go down? Sure. They are awful. But this isn't like the NYT being successfully prosecuted for excessive bias or something.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 01:12 PM (39g3+)
337
Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 26, 2016 01:06 PM (mf5HN)
I'm not sure what you mean as I don't care about your sexuality. What I care about is the agenda that has legalized gay marriage, allowed men in women's facilities, allowed the military to become politically correct in favor of military cohesion and has attempted to destroy the church. That agenda is action conducted by what I consider an enemy.
I'm not sure what you mean as I don't care about your sexuality. What I care about is the agenda that has legalized gay marriage, allowed men in women's facilities, allowed the military to become politically correct in favor of military cohesion and has attempted to destroy the church. That agenda is action conducted by what I consider an enemy.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 01:12 PM (JJev6)
338
Honestly, is outing somebody as gay a thing anymore?
Does anybody really care? I think it's more about Thiels beliefs, not
his sexual preference.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2016 01:06 PM (O0lVq)
Apparently HE cares. Whether you do or not doesn't seem to have entered into his decision making process.
Posted by: BurtTC
I don't know all the details, but I think his outing led to some other people being outed as well, all to strike a blow against a gay non-leftist and make an example out of him.
Does anybody really care? I think it's more about Thiels beliefs, not
his sexual preference.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 26, 2016 01:06 PM (O0lVq)
Apparently HE cares. Whether you do or not doesn't seem to have entered into his decision making process.
Posted by: BurtTC
I don't know all the details, but I think his outing led to some other people being outed as well, all to strike a blow against a gay non-leftist and make an example out of him.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 01:13 PM (LZgax)
339
Nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2016 01:13 PM (3ZoRf)
340
I think it's pretty cool. Haven't read the all comments but it sounds like a high stakes game of revenge. I like revenge stories when the bad guys get what's coming to them. Gawker are the bad guys, for sure. Revenge is a holy thing and sometimes in the Bible God uses someone, oh, like the Babylonians, as an instrument to exact His wrath. Good for Mr. Thiel.
Posted by: Dang at May 26, 2016 01:13 PM (/77HP)
341
Yeah, its not some clash of titans. Its a douchebag suing an even worse douchebag over douchey behavior. Do I want Gawker to go down? Sure. They are awful. But this isn't like the NYT being successfully prosecuted for excessive bias or something.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Why is Thiel a douchebag?
At least when it comes to politics, he's on our side of the aisle
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Why is Thiel a douchebag?
At least when it comes to politics, he's on our side of the aisle
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 01:14 PM (LZgax)
342
What's the percentage of gays that vote Democrat?
As individuals they aren't necessarily my enemy but as a group, it's
hard not to think of them that way. Same for any block of voters that
vote with the Left.
I can see how that would be a temptation, because of how frustrating things can be but... people are always individuals, not groups. The left really wants everyone to perceive each other only as groups, but we're not. Even each of us in the horde have different opinions and can get into nasty fights over stupid little stuff (and misunderstandings that grow).
There's no "gay" group out there, there's no "black" group. There's just folks.
As individuals they aren't necessarily my enemy but as a group, it's
hard not to think of them that way. Same for any block of voters that
vote with the Left.
I can see how that would be a temptation, because of how frustrating things can be but... people are always individuals, not groups. The left really wants everyone to perceive each other only as groups, but we're not. Even each of us in the horde have different opinions and can get into nasty fights over stupid little stuff (and misunderstandings that grow).
There's no "gay" group out there, there's no "black" group. There's just folks.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 01:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2016 01:14 PM (vvmPQ)
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but he's not the kind to go marching in parades with no pants or or something. He's just 'fabulous'
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:37 PM (39g3+)
tuned into that orphan black show
lots of naked gay butt on the show (the character is gay)
for no reason, at all, so dumb
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 12:37 PM (39g3+)
tuned into that orphan black show
lots of naked gay butt on the show (the character is gay)
for no reason, at all, so dumb
Posted by: artisanal 'ette lives for the barrel! at May 26, 2016 01:15 PM (qCMvj)
345
She's starting to look old.
Posted by: Soona at May 26, 2016 01:00 PM (Fmupd)
_____________________
I'd hit it....
*hic*
Posted by: Soona at May 26, 2016 01:00 PM (Fmupd)
_____________________
I'd hit it....
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 26, 2016 01:15 PM (HSmrB)
346
In defense of Gizmodo, they broke the story about FB screening conservative news outlets from their Trending last.
So I hope the guy who did that gets a good job when they all go under.
So I hope the guy who did that gets a good job when they all go under.
Posted by: @votermom at May 26, 2016 01:16 PM (7lVbc)
347
Why is Thiel a douchebag?
He's not the one doing the lawsuit, he's just the money man. Hulk Hogan is suing. He's the douchebag. Theil is just putting up the money. This shouldn't even have to be said.
He's not the one doing the lawsuit, he's just the money man. Hulk Hogan is suing. He's the douchebag. Theil is just putting up the money. This shouldn't even have to be said.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 01:16 PM (39g3+)
348
334 Think "Long Range Competitive Man Bun Shooting".
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2016 01:05 PM
Wait...that's a sport? I see the basis here for a MoMee version of the Olympics....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2016 01:11 PM (bzd8I)
******
Difficult, but doable!
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 26, 2016 01:05 PM
Wait...that's a sport? I see the basis here for a MoMee version of the Olympics....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2016 01:11 PM (bzd8I)
******
Difficult, but doable!
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2016 01:17 PM (6xtq3)
349
I'm not sure what you mean as I don't care about your sexuality. What I care about is the agenda that has legalized gay marriage, allowed men in women's facilities, allowed the military to become politically correct in favor of military cohesion and has attempted to destroy the church. That agenda is action conducted by what I consider an enemy.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 01:12 PM (JJev6)
I am entirely sure that you know exactly what I mean. As did I when I read the words that you chose to type.
You presented your position and I will view your statements accordingly.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 26, 2016 01:12 PM (JJev6)
I am entirely sure that you know exactly what I mean. As did I when I read the words that you chose to type.
You presented your position and I will view your statements accordingly.
Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 26, 2016 01:17 PM (mf5HN)
350
Dear Gawker:
It's a world of faggots
and self-hating jews
if you fight with them
you are going to lose
It's a small world after all
It's a world of faggots
and self-hating jews
if you fight with them
you are going to lose
It's a small world after all
Posted by: Huma's double-headed man-o-war at May 26, 2016 01:18 PM (ucB75)
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 26, 2016 01:18 PM (ZQfW9)
352
Oh thank God I thought I was the one in the Barrel.
*waves at Christopher Taylorl*
Try not to touch anything!
Oh thank God I thought I was the one in the Barrel.
*waves at Christopher Taylorl*
Try not to touch anything!
Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 26, 2016 01:18 PM (mf5HN)
353
Are there prosthetic buns for prematurely balding millineals?
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2016 01:00 PM (6xtq3)
That's what Tribbles are for.
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2016 01:00 PM (6xtq3)
That's what Tribbles are for.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 26, 2016 01:20 PM (35BaE)
354
342 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 26, 2016 01:14 PM (39g3+)
I treat individuals as individuals....
I am wary of groups.
The left is kicking our ass with tribalism.
I treat individuals as individuals....
I am wary of groups.
The left is kicking our ass with tribalism.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 26, 2016 01:21 PM (g8Hfr)
355
Hooray for Peter Thiel!!
Posted by: mhjhnsn at May 26, 2016 01:21 PM (FZdvr)
356
Good Lawfare Fu!
Posted by: I won't submit at May 26, 2016 01:24 PM (zj+JZ)
357
He's not the one doing the lawsuit, he's just the money man. Hulk Hogan is suing. He's the douchebag. Theil is just putting up the money. This shouldn't even have to be said.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
I don't think HH is a douchebag for suing.
His morality is not great (I think it was a swinger thing going on) but I don't think a hidden camera in a bedroom and then broadcasting it is acceptable journalism and should be called out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
I don't think HH is a douchebag for suing.
His morality is not great (I think it was a swinger thing going on) but I don't think a hidden camera in a bedroom and then broadcasting it is acceptable journalism and should be called out.
Posted by: Maritime at May 26, 2016 01:25 PM (LZgax)
358
If only Gawker had followed up the outing with "Not that there's anything wrong with that.", they would have been fine. Instead they were screwed up the a$$ by a gay billionaire; but then, who hasn't?
Besides me I mean.
Besides me I mean.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 26, 2016 01:30 PM (kfcYC)
359
It's too bad the judgement can't be awarded to charity because HH invited the circumstances that resulted in the tort.
Posted by: torabora at May 26, 2016 02:12 PM (94SIX)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 26, 2016 02:43 PM (Xo1Rt)
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I couldn't help but sense the nervous tension in each word in that article. They wanted to call out Thiel much harder than they did, but given how much newspapers make, I think they're terrified of being sued out of existence. Pity, I would like to see it.
Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at May 26, 2016 03:18 PM (OU6IU)
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