Bill Cosby Will, Unlike Bill Clinton, Stand Trial For Sexual Assault

A judge has ruled that there is enough evidence that the case can go forward.

If convicted, he could be sentenced to ten years in prison.

I think it's very important to remember that these are only charges and nothing has been proven. Whether he is a serial rapist or not is a fact known only to him and all the women he raped.

Posted by: Ace at 01:33 PM

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1 Hey hey hey!

Posted by: Rape Albert at May 24, 2016 01:35 PM (B9hIz)

2 Wonder if the NOW gang will offer to orally gratify "the other Bill" if he "defends abortion?"

This depresses me almost as much as "Cait"...my childhood icons are imploding.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 01:35 PM (g8Hfr)

3 I guess liberals can blow the dust off their "OJ IS INNOCENT" protest signs and repaint them.

Posted by: CrustyB at May 24, 2016 01:35 PM (GvSpB)

4 Leonard Part 6 was a rape on humanity

Posted by: wooga at May 24, 2016 01:36 PM (B9hIz)

5 OJ - Guilty
Mumia - Innocent

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 24, 2016 01:36 PM (F26eZ)

6 That's raycisssss....

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 01:37 PM (xttKs)

7 He's gonna share a cell with OJ.

Posted by: Roy at May 24, 2016 01:38 PM (VndSC)

8 Sort of sad, I saw him perform a couple years ago for my birthday.
Before all this broke a admired the guy, now I know yet again we all have dragons to confront in our lives.

...and I'll get the others...

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 01:38 PM (aQQbl)

9 So...the difference is Cosby used drugs, while Clinton used political power and state troopers?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:38 PM (NOIQH)

10 Hey hey hey!

Posted by: Rape Albert at May 24, 2016 01:35 PM (B9hIz)

That whole show makes so much more sense now.

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 01:39 PM (xttKs)

11 Leonard Part 7

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 01:39 PM (aoFFB)

12 Gah, I'm doing poorly at my internetting:

Cosby - Guilty
Mumia - Innocent

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 24, 2016 01:39 PM (F26eZ)

13 This all started because Mr. Cosby went off of the plantation by telling blacks that they needed to accept responsibility for their own lives, right?

I mean, MLK, Jr. is STILL being given a pass for his womanizing ways.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 24, 2016 01:39 PM (Saqzi)

14 So Rapey McRapeyPerson is finally gonna stand trial.

Maybe they will put him in next to OJ and they can trade pruno recipes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (gyKtp)

15 It's Rapey Tuesday! Hooray!

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (N1Wpo)

16 We're going to need more jello.

Posted by: Bill C. at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (FohCt)

17 >> yet again we all have dragons to confront in our lives.

Here be Rapey Dragons.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (aoFFB)

18 Cosby mostly raped young models.
Clinton mostly raped chubby girls.

Because Cosby perpetuated body shaming culture, and Clinton was size-positive, Cosby is more evil than Clinton.

Posted by: wooga at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (B9hIz)

19 Sort of sad, I saw him perform a couple years ago for my birthday.
Before all this broke a admired the guy, now I know yet again we all have dragons to confront in our lives.

...and I'll get the others...

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 01:38 PM (aQQbl)

His early stuff was pretty good. I, however, like Eddie Murphy's impression of him better than him, though.

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (xttKs)

20 Let that be a lesson to black comedians who are considering speaking out about the behavior of the black community contributing to the current failure of the black community, amirite???

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (NOIQH)

21 Imploding indeed. Saw him do the Noah routine live back in the day.
Depressing to think of now.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (C9pBZ)

22 9 Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:38 PM (NOIQH)

Hey baby we call the troopers and political power "charm."

Giggity giggity woo! WOO WOO!

//The Clennis Train

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (g8Hfr)

23 I'm not saying he's a raper...I'm just saying he drugged women into unconsciousness and then forced himself on them in a sexual manner.

Posted by: Ancient Aliens Guy at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (datdl)

24 Maybe they will put him in next to OJ and they can trade pruno recipes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (gyKtp)

My guess is that Cosby will be acquitted and then announce that he will devote the rest of his life to search for the real rapist.

Posted by: OregonMuse at May 24, 2016 01:41 PM (N1Wpo)

25 The Bill Clinton stuff has been discredited.

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at May 24, 2016 01:41 PM (gs8be)

26 I saw Bill Cosby open for Lionel Richie in Hartford back in 1983!

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 01:41 PM (aoFFB)

27 Cosby mostly raped young models.
Clinton mostly raped chubby girls.

Clunton was using that as a cover. Every time a woman would come out, his only defense was "Look at her! I wouldn't do that with YOUR dick!"

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 01:41 PM (xttKs)

28 I think it's very important to remember that these are only charges and nothing has been proven. Whether he is a serial rapist or not is a fact known only to him and all the women he raped.

Actuall that is not true, in a way

In depositions, he has admitted drugging girls and having sex with them when they were in no condition to or able to give consent. Call that what you want, but he is a scumbag...AND AND he did pay silence money to some so that is, to some extent a statement of guilt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 01:41 PM (g31NN)

29 Whether he is a serial rapist or not is a fact known only to him and all the women he raped.

Just like Bubba!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 24, 2016 01:41 PM (8ZskC)

30 After actor Elijah Wood recently confirming that yes, Hollywood is a cess-pit of pedophiles who prey on young actors, are we going to see the same outrage over rape directed at some of them? Bryan Singer, Roman Polanski, Woody Allen....

yeah, I thought not.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:42 PM (NOIQH)

31 This situation with Cosby, that for decades no real investigation took place and the women who were (allegedly) drugged and raped were either discounted as whores/gold-diggers/fame-seekers sheds light on how it's possible for what-I-know is a cesspool of perversion to exist in Hollywood.

Elijah Wood has now stated that there's a bomb set to go off re child molestation in the industry. Not a drugged-out Corey, but Elijah Wood. The good, and the sad, part of his claim is that his parents took care to protect him from it. It points out the fact that other parents did not.

Fuck 'em all with a corn cob drill.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 01:42 PM (SEXy3)

32 What is the nature of this alleged evidence the judge claims to be sufficient for going to trial?

Posted by: Glorious Ungent at May 24, 2016 01:42 PM (kwklw)

33 "Depressing to think of now. "

It is. Poor women he took advantage of over the years. Decades of reputation down the drain. Name is mud now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 24, 2016 01:42 PM (LA7Cm)

34 If some reporter had balls, he/she/it/xe/ would ask Hillary Clinton for a comment on the story.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 24, 2016 01:42 PM (8ZskC)

35 >>>Here be Rapey Dragons.
Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (aoFFB)<<<

Pfft. Dragons. They're faker than hell.

Posted by: rapey dolphins at May 24, 2016 01:43 PM (H9MG5)

36 31 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 01:42 PM (SEXy3)

Problem is Nied the worst of the bastards would enjoy the corn cob drill....

"Oooohhh Me next!"

//Bryan Singer

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 01:43 PM (g8Hfr)

37 >>Hollywood is a cess-pit of pedophiles who prey on young actors

Now, suck my dick.

Posted by: Spotsworth at May 24, 2016 01:43 PM (aoFFB)

38 Gonna get his puddin' popped

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (/CXhS)

39 20 Let that be a lesson to black comedians who are considering speaking out about the behavior of the black community contributing to the current failure of the black community, amirite???
Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:40 PM (NOIQH)

Bull's eye.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (oKE6c)

40 I like to keep my FB apolitical, but I'm sorely tempted to post something like this:

Bill C. finally will held accountable for the women he raped and harassed!

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (UBBWX)

41 One should not be in fear of prison on the word of someone who never said anything at the time.

This is just too cruel and unjust.

The only reason this gained traction is the number of claims made.

Didn't we learn that lesson with the Salem Witch trials?

Which is why keeping any accusers anonymous defeats the ability to judge whether this is just copycats or truly identical claims.

I just can't believe that:

A: he did this for so long and never had anyone go to the cops with evidence.

B: that he thought he could get away with this for so long that he kept doing it. I can't believe someone would be that stupid who is that famous.

C: What proof is there that any of these incidents actually took place other than the accusers word?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (Xo1Rt)

42 His 2013 show had a pretty good message to the College crowd on hand. Nobody gives you a free pass, make you name by earning your respect, that kind of stuff. There was also about 20 minutes that was fairly religious.
Seems so terribly hollow now..

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (aQQbl)

43 Cosby will never do a day in prison. He's old, extremely rich ($400,000,000), and Black. Even if they have made him surrender his passport, a private jet can have him someplace with no extradition in mere hours. Cuba has no extradition to the US and they would love to have Bill and his money there.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (kXoT0)

44 So the guy who falsely accused the Tea Party of being racist was balls-deep in unconcious supermodels at the time? Your honor, I rest my case.

Posted by: CrustyB at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (GvSpB)

45 My first instinct when the Cosby stuff went down was that it was basically the equivalent of two people getting drunk and then the woman claiming she had been raped (after deciding to go up to man's room and do drugs with him)

But the more women that have come out, it's clear he really was a serial rapist with a pattern.

What amazed me is rich and famous people don't have to drug victims to get laid, most of these women were probably going to screw him anyway.

Posted by: Jamers at May 24, 2016 01:45 PM (LZgax)

46 So in addition to the Cold Cosby and the Hot Cosby now there'll be an Orange Cosby - it's not a sweater.

Posted by: DaveA at May 24, 2016 01:45 PM (DL2i+)

47 Or maybe I'd go:

"I don't think its right for Bill C to have face these rape allegations from so long ago. We should let the man be, and not discuss old transgressions"

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 01:45 PM (UBBWX)

48 Has Gloria Allred slithered out from under her rock yet?

Posted by: tu3031 at May 24, 2016 01:45 PM (YFFpo)

49 >>The good, and the sad, part of his claim is that his parents took care
to protect him from it. It points out the fact that other parents did
not.

Gee, it's not like you could tell something was messing with the young actors' heads in addition to drugs and money. See: Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears, Amanda Bynes....

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:45 PM (NOIQH)

50 A: he did this for so long and never had anyone go to the cops with evidence.

B: that he thought he could get away with this for so long that he kept doing it. I can't believe someone would be that stupid who is that famous.

C: What proof is there that any of these incidents actually took place other than the accusers word?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (Xo1Rt)

He has admitted in depostions doing exactly what he is accused of and of also paying the "victims" for their silence

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 01:46 PM (g31NN)

51 This all started because Mr. Cosby went off of the plantation by telling blacks that they needed to accept responsibility for their own lives, right?

Ummm...I think this went off the rails because Cosby raped a lot of women.

There have been conspiracy theories in the HQ in the past, so I think I'll recount the history of the recent emergence of the scandal.

Nearly every up and coming black comedian gets The Call from Bill Cosby. Cosby tells them that they don't need to go blue to get laughs, pull their pants up, all the things. Most of them work The Call into their act. I believe Eddie Murphy did.

So about two years ago Hannibal Burress was on the Howard Stern show talking about getting The Call. He was a fairly obscure comic.

He said, "You can google Bill Cosby Rape and you'll get more hits than if you google Hannibal Burress, and this guy is lecturing me?".

And everyone said, "wait, wut?", and the walls came tumbling down.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at May 24, 2016 01:46 PM (1xUj/)

52 I am skeptical they have enough evidence to go anywhere, but maybe there's stuff we haven't been told. So far it seems like its a lot of he said/she said stuff from decades ago, which is about impossible to even put on trial, let alone prove.

I mean, given the numbers, it sure looks like he's guilty of at least being sleazy and creepy but that's not enough enough for a trial.

A lot of the stuff he's accused of just sounds like a guy trying to get a woman stoned and get laid, to me. Some of it is clearly over the line to rape and awful behavior, assuming the women aren't lying to get paid.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 01:46 PM (39g3+)

53 41 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (Xo1Rt)

1) Hollywood pays people off and failing that pays off LE and their Media cousins to STFU about scandal

and other than that excellent post.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 01:46 PM (g8Hfr)

54 I mean, MLK, Jr. is STILL being given a pass for his womanizing ways.

***

Are you saying that what Cosby is alleged to have done is "womanizing"?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 01:46 PM (SEXy3)

55 Its pretty clear Cosby has some kink where he likes sleeping or unconscious women.

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 01:47 PM (UBBWX)

56
This all started because Mr. Cosby went off of the plantation by telling blacks that they needed to accept responsibility for their own lives, right?

That would be my guess. Not to excuse any horrible thing Cosby may or may not have done, but I am certainly willing to bet that, had he been an out-and-proud BLM mouthpiece, the women accusing him would never have been given the time of day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 24, 2016 01:47 PM (X6fMO)

57 What amazed me is rich and famous people don't have to drug victims to get laid, most of these women were probably going to screw him anyway.

Posted by: Jamers at May 24, 2016 01:45 PM (LZgax)

I doubt it. The girls he drugged were likely "good girls" that would've been a conquest. Ain't nobody got time for that. He musta been tired of whores and wanted to up his game a bit, but wasn't willing to work for it.

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 01:47 PM (xttKs)

58 He may be a serial rapist, I don't know. But it's not what you know, it's what you can prove in court. Yeah, lots of women have come forth, that simply turns it from 'he said/she said' to 'he said/they said.' Have to prove it. In court.

Posted by: Sixkiller at May 24, 2016 01:47 PM (pcyHg)

59 44 Posted by: CrustyB at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (GvSpB)

We must ignore all the good he did calumnying the Tea Party and get him for rapey-rape your honor!

//DA SJW 957

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 01:47 PM (g8Hfr)

60 Elijah Wood has now stated that there's a bomb set to go off re child molestation in the industry. Not a drugged-out Corey, but Elijah Wood. The good, and the sad, part of his claim is that his parents took care to protect him from it. It points out the fact that other parents did not.

Fuck 'em all with a corn cob drill.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 01:42 PM (SEXy3)

Yeah, it's almost like there's some reason that Miley Cyrus went from sweet little Hannah Montana to Bad Girl Skank...

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 01:47 PM (kXoT0)

61 "Whether he is a serial rapist or not is..."

entirely dependent on his standing in the MSM/Dem machine. He went off he reservation a few years ago with his blaming of black problems on (gasp) black culture, lifestyle and choices. So it is very likely he is a serial rapist.

Posted by: Ripley at May 24, 2016 01:48 PM (1BQGO)

62 Nearly every up and coming black comedian gets The Call from Bill Cosby. Cosby tells them that they don't need to go blue to get laughs, pull their pants up, all the things. Most of them work The Call into their act. I believe Eddie Murphy did.

****

Tell Bill to have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up

Posted by: Zombie Richard Pryor at May 24, 2016 01:49 PM (SEXy3)

63 Yeah, it was an open secret he liked to do this stuff.

Drugging women to have sex with them = rape.

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 01:49 PM (UBBWX)

64 I'll say this, if you're a woman that was raped this way and never reported it until now because it would cause "upheaval" in your life, how do you not bear some responsibility for all these women being raped?

If 2 or 3 credible woman said Cosby drugged and raped them right after it happened, he would have been in prison like 30 years ago.

Posted by: Jamers at May 24, 2016 01:49 PM (LZgax)

65 Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at May 24, 2016 01:49 PM (Xq8vL)

66 It's a problem, no denying....

On the one hand, you have a powerful man, well-liked and a cultural influencer, accused of rape.

And on the other hand, you have a black man daring to speak against the social pathologies that plague not only 'his people' but the nation as a whole...

It's hard for an SJW to know what to do.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 01:50 PM (lutOX)

67 Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (UBBWX)

So you've already decided that he's guilty without a shred of physical evidence?

The only evidence that's been in the news has been statements by the women.

Frankly that's not good enough. There must be physical evidence otherwise there is reasonable doubt. Because people lie and just because there's a lot of them just is part of how humans these days react. It's a hive mind kind of thing.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 24, 2016 01:50 PM (Xo1Rt)

68 Yeah, it's almost like there's some reason that Miley Cyrus went from sweet little Hannah Montana to Bad Girl Skank...

****

That mullet-headed-fuckbrains of a daddy she has makes me want to pistol whip him.

Posted by: Zombie Richard Pryor at May 24, 2016 01:50 PM (SEXy3)

69 54 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 01:46 PM (SEXy3)

I am absolutely not giving Cosby a pass Nied *but* the arm candy talks to each other....

I would gladly convict him on every count if proven but at what point do the women bear culpability when self-admittedly they knew women had a habit of passing out and waking up with Fat Albert's DNA in weird places?

If I get bit by a lion...well shit happens...

if my friends warn me the house is full of lions, and I go covered in steak to my house and get bit was that not some sign I had a get bit wish?

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 01:50 PM (g8Hfr)

70

Rape or Casting Couch

depends on the era

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 01:50 PM (zOTsN)

71
Cosby used drugs, while Clinton used political power and state troopers?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:38 PM (NOIQH)
--------------------------

Should be a bumper sticker.

P.S., I see this as not helping Bill Clinton.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 01:50 PM (pC96u)

72 Tell Bill to have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up

Posted by: Zombie Richard Pryor at May 24, 2016 01:49 PM (SEXy3)

DAD! He went on stage and said some things! He went on stage and said some stuff!

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 01:50 PM (xttKs)

73 I'm dying from the deliciousness of the Trump thread.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2016 01:51 PM (1ZOkK)

74 >>He said, "You can google Bill Cosby Rape and you'll get more hits than
if you google Hannibal Burress, and this guy is lecturing me?".

And everyone said, "wait, wut?", and the walls came tumbling down.

Yup. It was the hypocrisy.

And yet...so many other forms of hypocrisy are tolerated in the entertainment industry, such as private jet addicted enviro activists, executives who "support" womens issues while actively using the casting couch, hot young actors playing it up w/the ladies while keeping their homosexuality on the down-low.

But Cosby --- that guy had the nerve to push family values whoile being a creep, and that crossed the line!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:51 PM (NOIQH)

75 Gee, it's not like you could tell something was messing with the young actors' heads in addition to drugs and money. See: Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears, Amanda Bynes....
Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:45 PM (NOIQH)

Micheal Jackson was a predator because he was raised by one. Paraphrasing here, but his sister said, "We all worked extremely hard to keep Daddy happy and it took a whole lot to keep Daddy happy." When pressed by the interviewer as to what she meant, she just bit her lip, looked sad and said, "You know, you know."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 01:51 PM (kXoT0)

76

what about the gay pedophiles that run Hollywood

when is that dealt with

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 01:51 PM (zOTsN)

77 Isn't the whole media complex intermingled with the political class?

As much as I'd like for it to finally come to light just who the monsters were that destroyed these kids or enabled it, I don't believe it ever will.

Because incestuous den of vipers.

Even if it is Elijah and not Corey this time. It certainly didn't work when everything was coming to light about the heavy drug use 12 year old Drew Barrymore and her generation of stars were involved in. Why would it now?

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 24, 2016 01:51 PM (F26eZ)

78 So you've already decided that he's guilty without a shred of physical evidence?

The only evidence that's been in the news has been statements by the women.

Frankly that's not good enough. There must be physical evidence otherwise there is reasonable doubt. Because people lie and just because there's a lot of them just is part of how humans these days react. It's a hive mind kind of thing.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 24, 2016 01:50 PM (Xo1Rt)

You keep saying it's only the word of the accusers? You really should read Cosby's own depositions where he pretty much admits to the whole thing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 01:51 PM (g31NN)

79
self-admittedly they knew women had a habit of passing out and waking up with Fat Albert's DNA in weird places?
---------------------

Really? At the time? I thought they all felt ashamed and helpless because they all felt they were the only one.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 01:51 PM (pC96u)

80 "I doubt it. The girls he drugged were likely "good girls" that would've been a conquest. Ain't nobody got time for that. He musta been tired of whores and wanted to up his game a bit, but wasn't willing to work for it."

Somnophilia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somnophilia

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 01:51 PM (UBBWX)

81 Rapey Tuesday! Huzzah!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 24, 2016 01:51 PM (1ZOkK)

82 If 2 or 3 credible woman said Cosby drugged and raped them right after it happened, he would have been in prison like 30 years ago.

***

1. "Credible"? Define it against the likes of Cosby

2. Until only a few years ago women who were raped were treated by the criminal justice system as much less than the victims they were.

Posted by: Zombie Richard Pryor at May 24, 2016 01:52 PM (SEXy3)

83 I really wonder if there's a long line of guys in prison thinking, "Yeah, I'd buttfuck Bill Cosby. He's funny. Funny's a huge turn on. Ya know?"

I just don't see it. Maybe I'm wrong.

Posted by: Dang at May 24, 2016 01:52 PM (/77HP)

84 Dad is great, Bring on the Drugs and Rape!

Posted by: Repurposing Old Routines at May 24, 2016 01:52 PM (OkKDg)

85 Tell Bill to have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up

Posted by: Zombie Richard Pryor

Heh, yeah.

That's the bit about Eddie Murphy getting The Call.

He calls Richard Pryor to tell him about the Cos. Pryor says "are they laughing?". Murphy says "yeah". Pryor says "are they paying you?".

And then we get your quote.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at May 24, 2016 01:52 PM (1xUj/)

86 This will go badly for Bill Cosby. A new prosecutor wants to make a name for himself with a Celebrity Conviction.

PA has a 12-year statute of limitations for this, unlike most states where it's three to five years.

The accuser made a complaint after it happened eleven years ago, but at the time authorities didn't pursue a he said / she said case against a Local Hero Celebrity. It's only in the last year that the revelations came out about over 50 other women.

Like many states, PA has an exception in these kinds of cases to let in testimony about other similar cases, so it'll be several racially diverse testifying about how Cosby drugged them and then fiddled about. Some of these women were given drugs without any knowledge. Some of them are Black. So in effect, this will be an end-run around the shorter statute of limitations applicable in other states.

No matter how the jury gets picked I don't see Cosby getting a jury nullification like the one OJ Simpson got. Cosby didn't racially discriminate with his victims, and the jury won't either.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 24, 2016 01:52 PM (r1fLd)

87

Brian Sanger

he still works in Hollywood right?

the one with the little boy orgies

when does his shaming happen

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 01:53 PM (zOTsN)

88 RE: Elijah Wood

He's a homo so Hollywood should respect his opinion.

Posted by: CrustyB at May 24, 2016 01:53 PM (GvSpB)

89 >>>A: he did this for so long and never had anyone go to the cops with evidence.
...

Money buys silence... for a while. Money and fame is even more effective (Who are they gonna believe, you or Cliff Huckstable?)

>>>B: that he thought he could get away with this for so long that he kept doing it. I can't believe someone would be that stupid who is that famous.
...
1. The vast majority of celebrities are not know for being even remotely intelligent
2. Every time someone gets away with sone thing, they become more likely to do it again as the fear of getting caught gradually fades.

>>>C: What proof is there that any of these incidents actually took place other than the accusers word?
...
Good question. That's what grand juries and trials are for.

Posted by: Damiano at May 24, 2016 01:53 PM (71OEY)

90 Na-na-na, gonna have a good time!

Posted by: Fritz at May 24, 2016 01:53 PM (UzPAd)

91 I saw him do one of those seminar things. He was a nasty little bitch. Very uncomfortable with him.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at May 24, 2016 01:53 PM (Xq8vL)

92
Gonna get his puddin' popped!!

Get it? huh,, get it?

Damn I crack me up...

Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 24, 2016 01:54 PM (HSmrB)

93 I don't think we should be so quick to judge Mr. Cosby.

Posted by: Zombie Jimmy Saville at May 24, 2016 01:54 PM (aoFFB)

94 Wm. H. Cosby, Phd. could sure smile and shuffle his feet during The Cosby Show opening credits. Musta been thinking about his conquests.

Posted by: Fred Adair Astaire at May 24, 2016 01:54 PM (o9vm9)

95 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 01:46 PM (g31NN)

What I've read is that he said he supplied some women drugs but that they consented or wanted to do that with the drugs and that they consented to the sex.

I don't believe he's said he has drugged someone with out their consent and then raped them.

The media has tried to sell his deposition statement as saying that but that's not what he said.

It's being taken that way but these days words mean what ever people want them to mean. And it's the media who have made that sort of thinking normal.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 24, 2016 01:54 PM (Xo1Rt)

96 Even if it is Elijah and not Corey this time. It certainly didn't work when everything was coming to light about the heavy drug use 12 year old Drew Barrymore and her generation of stars were involved in. Why would it now?

***

Because the kids had absolutely no avenue outside their own parents and the machine itself to tell their stories. Now, they do. Corey Feldman has insinuated on social media that Haim's destructive lifestyle was a direct result of abuse.

Posted by: Zombie Richard Pryor at May 24, 2016 01:55 PM (SEXy3)

97
If 2 or 3 credible woman said Cosby drugged and raped them right after it happened, he would have been in prison like 30 years ago.

***

1. "Credible"? Define it against the likes of Cosby

2. Until only a few years ago women who were raped were treated by the criminal justice system as much less than the victims they were.
Posted by: Zombie Richard Pryor at May 24, 2016 01:52 PM (SEXy3)
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Abso-fucking-lutely.

This is why Juanita Broaddrick didn't come forward at the time. Credible vs Attorney General and gubernatorial candidate Bill Clinton?

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 01:55 PM (pC96u)

98 regretful sex is not the same as rape

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 01:55 PM (zOTsN)

99 I will just sit over here waiting for everyone to tell my how easy it is to get a rape accusation taken seriously if the guy is some kind of super rich, super powerful "hero".

After all, BJ Clinton paid for his sexual crimes, amirite?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 01:55 PM (kXoT0)

100 A lot of perverts in show business. Most actors are homosexuals, especially the British actors. A lot of perverts in 'public service,' especially elected officials.

Most Republican senators are most likely homosexuals. Paul Ryan is probably a homosexual. These congressmen like to live with each other in small apartments in D.C. They like that intimate and cozy all-male dorm room atmosphere.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 24, 2016 01:52 PM (g0dZ5)

That's liberalesque generalization, right there folks.

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 01:55 PM (xttKs)

101 >>He's a homo so Hollywood should respect his opinion.

Hobbits don't differentiate between gay and straight sex.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 01:55 PM (aoFFB)

102 This is why Juanita Broaddrick didn't come forward at the time. Credible vs Attorney General and gubernatorial candidate Bill Clinton?
Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 01:55 PM (pC96u)

That and Hillary personally threatening the bezeebus out of her.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 01:56 PM (kXoT0)

103 This all started because Mr. Cosby went off of the plantation by telling blacks that they needed to accept responsibility for their own lives, right?

That's what triggred it to take place right now, yes. The case is the women, the timing is his about to have a new TV show that would have reached millions with a message contradictory to the left's narrative.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 01:56 PM (39g3+)

104 Hobbits don't differentiate between gay and straight sex.

Posted by: garrett

Oh, Sam...

Posted by: Frodo at May 24, 2016 01:56 PM (/77HP)

105 106 Hobbits don't differentiate between gay and straight sex.

Posted by: garrett

Oh, Sam...
Posted by: Frodo at May 24, 2016 01:56 PM

Yeah, I always wondered about those 2...

Posted by: donna at May 24, 2016 01:57 PM (O2RFr)

106 off sock

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 01:57 PM (SEXy3)

107 Big difference between Cosby and Clinton...
Cosby drugged his victims...
Clinton beat them up...with an armed cop covering his ass...

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 24, 2016 01:57 PM (X/2ij)

108 To hear Miley Cyrus tell it, she was never sweet little Hannah Montana, and she talks about how hard she was pushed on set. Of course, to non-Hollywood folks, her relationship with her dad looks strange too.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 24, 2016 01:57 PM (FQKBL)

109
I'll say this, if you're a woman that was raped this way and never reported it until now because it would cause "upheaval" in your life, how do you not bear some responsibility for all these women being raped?
--------------------

They all thought they were the only ones it happened to and blamed themselves, as was -- and predominantly IS -- the case with rape victims. Travel the world, and you'll find the vast majority of rapes are not reported. One of the rapist's best guarantors of impunity is the overwhelming shame he instills in his victim.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 01:57 PM (pC96u)

110 >>I always wondered about those 2...

Oh, Sam makes the sammiches.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 01:57 PM (aoFFB)

111 What I've read is that he said he supplied some women drugs but that they consented or wanted to do that with the drugs and that they consented to the sex.

I don't believe he's said he has drugged someone with out their consent and then raped them.

The media has tried to sell his deposition statement as saying that but that's not what he said.

It's being taken that way but these days words mean what ever people want them to mean. And it's the media who have made that sort of thinking normal.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 24, 2016 01:54 PM (Xo1Rt)

He made pretty clear in the depositions I read that he gave women drugs specifically to have sex with them and then had sex with them when they where unable to give consent. Call it what you want, judge it as rape or not, but he is a scumbag and I hope he suffers some whether he is convicted or not, which I will leave up to a Jury

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 01:57 PM (g31NN)

112 >>Brian Sanger
- he still works in Hollywood right?

Producer Bryan Singer. Yes.

Oh, and let's not forget celebrity/fashion photographer Terry Richardson who has been accused of drugging young models during shoots and then pressuring them into doing sexual stuff with him on camera - all while his female assistants support and encourage this. Richardson did that famous Bill Clinton portrait (think it was a TIME cover) where Bill is sitting w/his legs wide open.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:58 PM (NOIQH)

113 Google "Bill Cosby Deposition".

This is Joe Paterno all over again. Cosby has already admitted to some really shitty stuff.

But no, no ... he couldn't have done such things.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 01:58 PM (tbq1U)

114 So, Cos is 78, he'll probably be 80 or more before conviction, he'll drag it out claiming infirmity and do a couple years, tops.

Posted by: Weird Harold at May 24, 2016 01:58 PM (OkKDg)

115 "Hobbits don't differentiate between gay and straight sex."

As long as the snacks are served in the intermission!

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (UBBWX)

116 Rapists.....

They're worse than murderers in some way.

I've loved three women who survived rape - or who admitted it happened, at any rate - and there was always something in them that was unspeakably sad and broken....

The first such girl I knew and loved, I damned near killed her attacker, and but for her intervention - for she was and is a better person than I could ever be - I'd have finished him off without a thought.

My angel - the future Empress, as this devout sinner prays - survived, and I met her assailant..... hardly a week goes by that she doesn't have to beg me, not infrequently with tears in her eyes, not to exact some measure of justice for what her assailant - who is known to me, and who knows I know - did to her.

But for love of her, I forebear....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (lutOX)

117 .
~ the horror ~

~ the. horror ~

.

Posted by: Cosby's Brother Russell, w Whom He Slept . at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (DUPgJ)

118 The newly elected prosecutor in Montgomery County, Kevin Steele, turned
the Cosby case into an election issue. He promptly reopened it after
taking office.

That says it all right there. A 12 year old case should have had its statute of limitations already expired. This is a political witch-hunt whether he did it or not.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (vvmPQ)

119 Then, Mr. Frodo made me smoke some Longbottom Leaf... and
...the next thing I know...

It's the next morning and there's 3" of sheep intestine hanging out of my ass!

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (aoFFB)

120 From what I understand he never had actual intercourse with any of these women if that makes a difference. That was his Bill Clinton loophole he told himself so that it was not considered cheating.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (qB3GS)

121 114 Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:58 PM (NOIQH)

THAT WAS ART BABY ART Now sniff this popper and let's dance...

//Terry Richardson

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (g8Hfr)

122
This is why Juanita Broaddrick didn't come forward at the time. Credible vs Attorney General and gubernatorial candidate Bill Clinton?
Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 01:55 PM (pC96u)

That and Hillary personally threatening the bezeebus out of her.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 01:56 PM (kXoT0)
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Okay, but don't downplay the nature of the times. Juanita herself stated that her reason for not coming forward when it happened was that rape victims were raped again when they got into court back in those days.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (pC96u)

123 I was once fingered by Red Buttons in an elevator.

Posted by: Weird Harold at May 24, 2016 02:01 PM (OkKDg)

124 122 Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (qB3GS)

Correct Fat Albert's DNA was launched extra-vaginally...and I have it on good authority from the NOW gang that oral sex and any non-vaginal sex is not "sex"...

of course let's be frank...not that I am ever anything but....

You do not engage in any sexual congress with a person who has not consented period.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:01 PM (g8Hfr)

125 "Hobbits don't differentiate between gay and straight sex."

and when they've been eating those Elve cakes the have erections lasting more than four hours!
BTW...how gay is that Smeagol? ffs J.R.R.

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 24, 2016 02:02 PM (X/2ij)

126 Not to re-fight the Penn State wars, but, cover ups happen.

Heck, right here in my state, we had a "fabulous" basketball coach, who was also a drunk, who was drunk all day everyday, but, the OSU basketball team was winning. This was before they got strong in football. The Stillwater police would follow Coach Sutton's car--not to stop him from driving drunk but to be on the spot to handle any problems.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 02:02 PM (kXoT0)

127
that famous Bill Clinton portrait (think it was a TIME cover) where Bill is sitting w/his legs wide open.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 01:58 PM (NOIQH)
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Esquire cover, for the record.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:02 PM (pC96u)

128 124 Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (pC96u)

HAHAHA! and I would have been Bill's defense counsel as sternly as if I were his hired gun...

goddamned donor Ho-Bag bitches.

//Grammy H reminiscing over calling a 14 year old girl a slut and whore

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:02 PM (g8Hfr)

129 I like the cut of his jib.

Posted by: Darren Sharper at May 24, 2016 02:03 PM (m/Gc2)

130 Frito was gay? Dildo too? Goodgulf certainly.

Posted by: Bored of the Rings at May 24, 2016 02:03 PM (o9vm9)

131 Not that I'm advocating it at all, but-

I'm surprised with all of this info coming out about pedophilia and rape, etc. in Hollywood that there aren't more homicides of famous people.

There is pretty much nobody in the world who can escape a determined individual with a good rifle at a medium distance.

But, maybe all those kids/runaways who disappear into Hollywood disappear for a reason.

The desert tells no tales.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2016 02:03 PM (0cMkb)

132 >>THAT WAS ART BABY ART Now sniff this popper and let's dance...

Probably won't surprise you to hear that Terry Richardson directed Miley Cyrus' "Wrecking Ball" video.

That young gal went off the rails in a big way, with drugs and weird displays of sexual exhibitionism.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 02:03 PM (NOIQH)

133
That says it all right there. A 12 year old case should have had its statute of limitations already expired. This is a political witch-hunt whether he did it or not.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (vvmPQ)
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Has the statute of limitations expired or not?

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:03 PM (pC96u)

134 Okay, but don't downplay the nature of the times. Juanita herself stated that her reason for not coming forward when it happened was that rape victims were raped again when they got into court back in those days.
Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (pC96u)

I was not doing that. She knew she was in for it if she came forward and Hillz was part of that rape.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 02:03 PM (kXoT0)

135

he isn't denying the sex

he is denying rape

rape requires a specific intent to rape

the burden of proof is on the govt

they will have to show the women were so intoxicated they were incapable of consent

they were actresses, show people. There were witnesses who saw them walking and talking. I predict it is going to be difficult to prove they did not consent, and were too intoxicated to give consent, given the circumstances surrounding the complained of acts

Cosby is a cad. We do not incarcerate people for being cads. This is not a slam dunk

Its not a Juanita Broderick, while there was sex I have not heard anything about injury

Look for them to prosecute only the cases where the woman was under 18 and intent will not be relevant

the rest will go away

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:03 PM (zOTsN)

136 >>>BTW...how gay is that Smeagol?

Don't be silly. It was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand.

Gollum is a devout Onanist.

...and he may yet have a role in the fate of the Ring.

Posted by: Gandalf at May 24, 2016 02:04 PM (aoFFB)

137 The Obama administration responded with skepticism on Tuesday to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahus call for direct negotiations with the Palestinian Authority in Paris, and to the PAs rebuke of the offer.

Jerusalem Post

Yeah and the dems are friends of Israel, my lilly white ass!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:04 PM (g31NN)

138 Not to re-fight the Penn State wars, but, cover ups happen.

Heck, right here in my state, we had a "fabulous" basketball coach, who was also a drunk, who was drunk all day everyday, but, the OSU basketball team was winning. This was before they got strong in football. The Stillwater police would follow Coach Sutton's car--not to stop him from driving drunk but to be on the spot to handle any problems.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 02:02 PM (kXoT0)

There's cover-ups then there's a child sex farm for 40 years..........

Whatever makes you feel better.

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 02:04 PM (xttKs)

139 It bothers me how totally people are convinced he's 100% guilty based on bald accusations by a bunch of women.

Would it surprise me? Not particularly. But just being accused isn't enough to convince me he's guilty.

Call me crazy, but I'm not willing to buy into destroying a man just because someone claims something about him. Even a lot of someones.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:04 PM (39g3+)

140 what about the gay pedophiles that run Hollywood

when is that dealt with?

I suspect that it will be dealt with when the gay pedophiles start lecturing blacks about how their culture and values system are responsible for their messed-up lives.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 24, 2016 02:04 PM (8ZskC)

141 Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 24, 2016 01:52 PM (g0dZ5)

That's liberalesque generalization, right there folks.

Mister Magoo is the new nick of a hateful little troll who used to go by Caitlyn Jenner.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at May 24, 2016 02:05 PM (1xUj/)

142 You do not engage in any sexual congress with a person who has not consented period.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:01 PM (g8Hfr)

Tell that to the baby in the womb!

Already has his penis inside without consent!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 24, 2016 02:05 PM (/CXhS)

143
I was once fingered by Red Buttons in an elevator.

And that one just came to me,, bam, right outta the blue...

Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 24, 2016 02:05 PM (HSmrB)

144 Not that I'm advocating it at all, but-

I'm surprised with all of this info coming out about pedophilia and rape, etc. in Hollywood that there aren't more homicides of famous people.

There is pretty much nobody in the world who can escape a determined individual with a good rifle at a medium distance.

But, maybe all those kids/runaways who disappear into Hollywood disappear for a reason.

The desert tells no tales.

***

You think the type of parents who subject their kids to such an environment give a shit that it's happening to their kids?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:05 PM (SEXy3)

145 I had my fun!

Posted by: Cigar at May 24, 2016 02:06 PM (eHr4I)

146 Didn't Roman Polanski drug that girl he anally raped?

Posted by: steevy at May 24, 2016 02:06 PM (B48dK)

147 144 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 24, 2016 02:05 PM (/CXhS)

I think consent was given when mom made a field goal post....

Hey-O!

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:06 PM (g8Hfr)

148
Elijah Wood has now stated that there's a bomb set to go off re child molestation in the industry. Not a drugged-out Corey, but Elijah Wood. The good, and the sad, part of his claim is that his parents took care to protect him from it. It points out the fact that other parents did not.

Nothing is new under the sun. There've been rumors about Spielberg and young boys for years.

And in the 1930s, when MGM ran its own private brothel, the most popular girl was a barely legal nymph who could very convincingly play the very-forbidden Shirley Temple, ever-ready for your lollipop.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 24, 2016 02:06 PM (X6fMO)

149 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 01:59 PM (lutOX)
_____________________________________________

Likewise I have survivors as friends as well. Some were romantically involved some were not, and while the triggers may be different, the reactions are the same.
Bless you and your patience Palp, and my regards to the Empress.

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 02:06 PM (aQQbl)

150 Didn't Roman Polanski drug that girl he anally raped?

Posted by: steevy at May 24, 2016 02:06 PM (B48dK)

I believe so.....

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 02:06 PM (xttKs)

151 off sock

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 01:57 PM (SEXy3)

I googled the hash. Not to find out who was zombie Pryor but to see who was SEXy.

BTW, Horde, I'm met her. The hash doesn't lie.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at May 24, 2016 02:07 PM (1xUj/)

152 Didn't Roman Polanski drug that girl he anally raped?

It wasn't rape rape, because he's reliably leftist.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:07 PM (39g3+)

153 There's cover-ups then there's a child sex farm for 40 years..........

Whatever makes you feel better.
Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 02:04 PM (xttKs)

I am not a Penn State apologist--far from it. I am just saying that powerful people get away with stuff because other people let them for various reasons.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 02:07 PM (kXoT0)

154 A lot of creative people are pervs apparently.

Posted by: steevy at May 24, 2016 02:07 PM (B48dK)

155 Hobbits don't differentiate between gay and straight sex.

And hobbits with foot fetishes are considered "furries".

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 24, 2016 02:07 PM (4f7zr)

156 >>Didn't Roman Polanski drug that girl he anally raped?

Champagne, Qualudes and a Hot Tub...
to be fair, he did pay her Mom well.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 02:08 PM (aoFFB)

157 >>> Corey Feldman has insinuated on social media that Haim's destructive lifestyle was a direct result of abuse.
....

*ponders that statement*

Sure. When I'm looking for objective facts and analysis, the first place to look is to see what some washed up celebrity that no one cared about until his movie friend died insinuated but didn't directly say on Facebook. That's sufficient evidence to hang someone, right there.

Even assuming everything Feldman "insinuated on social media" is objective fact and they were passed around like gay sex coke mirrors... there are LOTS of things they could have done about it. I am sick an tired of drug addicts and other scumbags claiming victim status, especially celebrity millionaires. If you're being raped and people are snorting coke off your back while they do it, fine, you're a victim. When you start sniffing coke off other people's backs and OD from it, you're an idiot.

Posted by: Damiano at May 24, 2016 02:08 PM (71OEY)

158 155 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 02:07 PM (kXoT0)

When Ben Franklin and US Grant combine forces a LOT of shit gets flushed from memory.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:08 PM (g8Hfr)

159 You think the type of parents who subject their kids to such an environment give a shit that it's happening to their kids?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:05 PM (SEXy3)

Kids grow up.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (0cMkb)

160 And in the 1930s, when MGM ran its own private brothel, the most popular girl was a barely legal nymph who could very convincingly play the very-forbidden Shirley Temple, ever-ready for your lollipop

***

The first time I read of it I thought I'd never get the stench out of my brain but managed to do so. Thanks for the unpleasant reminder.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (SEXy3)

161 135 Has the statute of limitations expired or not?

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:03 PM (pC96u)

PA has a strange SOL law. No telling but it must not be since the judge has not thrown it out.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (vvmPQ)

162 Didn't Roman Polanski drug that girl he anally raped?

Posted by: steevy at May 24, 2016 02:06 PM (B48dK)

I believe so.....
Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 02:06 PM (xttKs)

Yes, the 13 year old girl, but, he was a rich "artiste" like Woody Allen, so it's totes Okey Dokey for him to flee to Europe, where they understand a powerful man's rights to his special needs.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (kXoT0)

163
from what I read they all voluntarily took the drugs. this was no roofie situation. So then the next issue is were they too intoxicated to consent

If i were prosecuting this I would only go to court with the one girl from the playboy mansion who said she was under 18

then you dont have to worry about consent or intent

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (zOTsN)

164 I am sick an tired of drug addicts and other scumbags claiming victim status, especially celebrity millionaires.

I'm willing to give kids a pass because they aren't adults and do not have the experience or skills to deal with life. If you're 30 and whining about being abused and forced into taking drugs.. no. If you're 13 and that happens? Yeah, I'll buy it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (39g3+)

165
You think the type of parents who subject their kids to such an environment give a shit that it's happening to their kids?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:05 PM (SEXy3)
---------------------

As a matter of fact, Elijah Wood said he escaped all that because his mom wouldn't let him go to Hollywood parties.

Contrast that with the mom who dropped her 12-year-old off on Mulholland Drive.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (pC96u)

166 Drudge is trolling Hillary hard on this one. Front picture is Cosby giving some sort of speech with Cankles (and Chelsea) cackling behind him.
That dude cracks me up sometimes.

Posted by: ajmojo at May 24, 2016 02:10 PM (1H9ox)

167 I'd like to point out the Epstein jet manifest always listed the passenger as "Bill C." and did not reference me, Bill Clinton, specifically.

It could have been any Bill C. on those flights and, to the extant any other passenger believed they were sexually assaulted on the plane, it could have been this Bill C., Cosby I mean.

Glad we could clear that up.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 24, 2016 02:10 PM (/m8T6)

168 The desert tells no tales.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2016 02:03 PM (0cMkb)
***
Ain't that the truth, though...

My angel figured out what I was doing, and put the kibosh on the 'friendship' I was cultivating with her assailant. I love her, but hate that she stopped me before he and I had a chance to go 'hunting'.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 02:10 PM (lutOX)

169
This all started because Mr. Cosby went off of the plantation by
telling blacks that they needed to accept responsibility for their own
lives, right?

That's what triggred it to take place right now, yes. The case is
the women, the timing is his about to have a new TV show that would have
reached millions with a message contradictory to the left's narrative. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 01:56 PM (39g3+)
=====

Makes you wonder about what would come out of your own closet if you became 'rich and famous' -- is there is a statute of limitations on any of this he-said-she-said stuff.

Does not matter in the least whether any of it is true or not -- can't be disproved and the tabloids will have a field day. Salem witches and daycare satanists.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 24, 2016 02:10 PM (MIKMs)

170 The only Hollywood child abuser I can think of that was successfully prosecuted was Victor Salva. Are there any others in recent times?

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 24, 2016 02:10 PM (F26eZ)

171 *ponders that statement*

Sure. When I'm looking for objective facts and analysis, the first place to look is to see what some washed up celebrity that no one cared about until his movie friend died insinuated but didn't directly say on Facebook. That's sufficient evidence to hang someone, right there.

Even assuming everything Feldman "insinuated on social media" is objective fact and they were passed around like gay sex coke mirrors... there are LOTS of things they could have done about it. I am sick an tired of drug addicts and other scumbags claiming victim status, especially celebrity millionaires. If you're being raped and people are snorting coke off your back while they do it, fine, you're a victim. When you start sniffing coke off other people's backs and OD from it, you're an idiot.

***

I'm gong to respond as succinctly as possible.

Up yours.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:10 PM (SEXy3)

172 159 Posted by: Damiano at May 24, 2016 02:08 PM (71OEY)

There's something to that, of course where does one draw the line?

Roddy Piper inferred that Pat Patterson did the famed "Pat Patterson Go Behind" to get his push as a young guy....

he didn't say this while he was making millions from the biz but...

https://youtu.be/pwqUpqYx1DM

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:10 PM (g8Hfr)

173 I am not a Penn State apologist--far from it. I am just saying that powerful people get away with stuff because other people let them for various reasons.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 02:07 PM (kXoT0)

I guess that got lost in your statement where it seemed you were comparing the cover-up of a MASSIVE child molestation over what seems to be a 40 year span to a basketball coach with a drinking problem.

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 02:11 PM (xttKs)

174
This deaf girls expression when she hears her voice for the first time is priceless

https://goo.gl/UX6UTT

ABSOLUTELY NOT SAFE FOR WORK

NSFW
NSFW

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 24, 2016 02:11 PM (iQIUe)

175
from what I read they all voluntarily took the drugs. this was no roofie situation. So then the next issue is were they too intoxicated to consent

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Not from what I read. He served them drinks and then they had weird sensations and didn't know what was coming over them.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:12 PM (pC96u)

176 Yes, the 13 year old girl, but, he was a rich "artiste" like Woody Allen, so it's totes Okey Dokey for him to flee to Europe, where they understand a powerful man's rights to his special needs.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (kXoT0)

Because he's so TALENTED and entertained MILLIONS with his work! A young girl's innocence be dammed!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 02:12 PM (xttKs)

177 "Hobbits don't differentiate between gay and straight sex."

In our neighborhood, if it's round, it's a door. All are welcome.

Posted by: Frodo at May 24, 2016 02:13 PM (/77HP)

178 If i were prosecuting this I would only go to court with the one girl from the playboy mansion who said she was under 18

I hate to be the one to say this but... if you're partying at the Playboy Mansion... that's implied consent.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)

179 From the sidebar...

Bomb threats at LAX and Houston.

Refresh my memory - has there ever been an actual bomb in anywhere where a threat has been phoned in or a note found?

Sure, some places have been bombed. But of those that were bombed, did anyone ever call in the threat?

Posted by: jwest at May 24, 2016 02:13 PM (Zs4uk)

180 "Has the statute of limitations expired or not?"

See @87

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 24, 2016 02:14 PM (r1fLd)

181 178 Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:12 PM (pC96u)

Correct it is like Russian (Smirnov) Roulette...

You never quite knew if and or when you'd wake up sticky and confused...

now these women were near him hoping to get noticed or whatever...

that doesn't make what he did right but at some point the reputation was there but b/c he had power and welath/fame they still went like moths to flame.

What a crapsack world we live in.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:14 PM (g8Hfr)

182 from what I read they all voluntarily took the drugs. this was no roofie situation. So then the next issue is were they too intoxicated to consent

It varies, depending on which girl you ask. Some say they drank because they felt pressured, some say they didn't know, etc.

The ones who drank and took drugs with a man in his hotel room then later complain they had sex with him, meet Mattress Girl and get out of my face.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:15 PM (39g3+)

183 148 Didn't Roman Polanski drug that girl he anally raped?
Posted by: steevy at May 24, 2016 02:06 PM (B48dK)
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Champagne and qualudes.

She had just turned 13 and was a virgin.
The hospital report is .... awful.

If he were John Doe, he would have done 5-10 years of hard time, even in the lax Cali system of the time.

But Polanski considered himself above the slap of the wrist or, at worst, 3 or 4 months his plea deal got him.
Laws are for the little people!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 24, 2016 02:15 PM (T/5A0)

184 As a matter of fact, Elijah Wood said he escaped all that because his mom wouldn't let him go to Hollywood parties.

Contrast that with the mom who dropped her 12-year-old off on Mulholland Drive.

***

Yep. He credits his parents with keeping him away from it. Meaning, of course, that the other parents have not.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:15 PM (SEXy3)

185 Don't make him try on the gloves!

If they don't fit, you must acquit!

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2016 02:15 PM (O0lVq)

186 If i were prosecuting this I would only go to court with the one girl from the playboy mansion who said she was under 18

I hate to be the one to say this but... if you're partying at the Playboy Mansion... that's implied consent.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)

yeessss but in most states sex with a minor is statutory rape

there is NO defense. Not if you didnt know she was a minor. Not even if she lied about her age. Intent is NOT required. Sex with a minor is enough

there is no way a minor can consent to sex, under statutory rape

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:16 PM (zOTsN)

187
BTW, Horde, I'm met her. The hash doesn't lie.

******

You liar! but thanks.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:16 PM (SEXy3)

188 30 After actor Elijah Wood recently confirming that yes, Hollywood is a cess-pit of pedophiles who prey on young actors,

I hadn't been aware that Elijah Wood came out with that, but Corey Feldman has been very vocal about the same thing and blamed his friend Corey Haim's suicide on it. Almost no one in Hollywood gives a damn.

The way these Hollywood types blubber away about polar bears and whales, you'd think they could at least pretend to give a rat's ass about children being raped in their midst.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2016 02:16 PM (SXU3d)

189 I hate to be the one to say this but... if you're partying at the Playboy Mansion... that's implied consent.

****

And with that, I'm out of here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (SEXy3)

190 Go suck a dick, you liar.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (g0dZ5)

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 15, 2015 09:29 AM (g0dZ5)

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (1xUj/)

191 190 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:16 PM (SEXy3)

The hottest deceased equine I know...

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (g8Hfr)

192 "Like many states, PA has an exception in these kinds of cases to let in testimony about other similar cases"

There's a similar federal law.

It was originally signed by Bill Clinton as one of the items on the wish list of his feminista political backers.

Clinton then found himself on the hook with that same law being invoked against his own person in court. He actually had government attorneys take it to the SCOTUS and argue that the law he personally had signed had no personal applicability to himself.

A novel legal theory rejected 9 to 0 by the Supremes. Not even the liberal bloc could stomach that one.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (noWW6)

193 >>But Polanski considered himself above the slap of the wrist or, at worst, 3 or 4 months his plea deal got him.
Laws are for the little people!

As are social norms about sleeping with underage girls, which he's always done. IIRC, he hooked up w/Natassja Kinsky and her friend when she was 15.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (NOIQH)

194 So when they don't convict him, should we all riot by having three vodka martinis instead of one?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (O0lVq)

195 NDH is a chick!?

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (aoFFB)

196 Oh boy,there is an "emoji" to use if you witness "bullying".

Posted by: steevy at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (B48dK)

197 The ones who drank and took drugs with a man in his hotel room then later complain they had sex with him, meet Mattress Girl and get out of my face.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:15 PM (39g3+)

let me ask you a question...forgetting the culpability of any of these idiot girls...if you were in a room with a passed out or consent incapable women, would you have sex with her? Yes or No?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:18 PM (g31NN)

198 the creepy old man, hugh hefner, was his enabler.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 24, 2016 02:18 PM (0O7c5)

199
If i were prosecuting this I would only go to court with the one girl from the playboy mansion who said she was under 18

I hate to be the one to say this but... if you're partying at the Playboy Mansion... that's implied consent.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)
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Not buying that. What would stop you from having sex with a 16- or 17-year-old girl who was drunk -- and even partying? The knowledge that it would effectively be rape?

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:18 PM (pC96u)

200 193 Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (1xUj/)

Hey now they could just coincidentally have the exact same IP and e-mail identifier to generate that hash...

//IRS IG investigating Cincy Office Analysis

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:18 PM (g8Hfr)

201 Go suck a dick, you liar.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (g0dZ5)

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 15, 2015 09:29 AM (g0dZ5)

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (1xUj/)

That shit's funny right there.

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 02:19 PM (xttKs)

202 We must assess whether it was a lie or not.Pictures will be required.

Posted by: steevy at May 24, 2016 02:19 PM (B48dK)

203 "NDH is a chick!?"

Uh, yeah.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 24, 2016 02:19 PM (LA7Cm)

204 yeessss but in most states sex with a minor is statutory rape

The age of consent in Illinois is 17, and Pennsylvania cannot prosecute someone for violating another state's laws.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:19 PM (39g3+)

205

you charge the sex with a minor case(s)

then when you hear the defenses evidence, you impeach it with the testimony of the other women if you can get it in

not as part of the charged crime, but to impeach

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:19 PM (zOTsN)

206 "That shit's funny right there."

Don't get much more stone-cold than that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 24, 2016 02:20 PM (LA7Cm)

207 198 Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (aoFFB)

Well aren't we all 1s and Zeroes really?

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:20 PM (g8Hfr)

208 Sure, some places have been bombed. But of those that were bombed, did anyone ever call in the threat?

Posted by: jwest

Yes. The Canary Islands airplane crash was partially caused by the main airport having bomb threats, one bomb went off in the airport and another was found and destroyed, I believe. All planes were diverted to a small airport ill equipped to handle the traffic. Fog rolled in and a KLM jet crashed into another jet on the runway. Large airport shut down due to bombing, language barriers, small airport with too much traffic and an effing soccer game on the radio distracting the control tower led to 583 deaths. One was the mother of one of my best friends.

Posted by: Dang at May 24, 2016 02:20 PM (/77HP)

209 The Elijah Wood interview just came out on Sunday:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jgctkt6

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2016 02:20 PM (NOIQH)

210
And with that, I'm out of here.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (SEXy3)
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Please stick around. This needs work.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:20 PM (pC96u)

211 let me ask you a question...forgetting the culpability of any of these idiot girls...if you were in a room with a passed out or consent incapable women, would you have sex with her? Yes or No?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:18 PM (g31NN)

I've actually been in this situation and she was NAKED, and no. I didn't.

Posted by: Sponge at May 24, 2016 02:20 PM (xttKs)

212 >>let me ask you a question - if you were in a room with a passed out or consent incapable women, would you have sex with her? Yes or No?

We talking passed out or a medical condition, like a Coma?

Asking for a friend...

Posted by: Dr Theo Huxtable at May 24, 2016 02:20 PM (aoFFB)

213 geez the girls would always do lots of fun things for disco biscuits and blow according to stories I heard..

Posted by: Regular Guy at May 24, 2016 02:20 PM (Kdfnm)

214 NDH is a chick!?
Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 02:17 PM (aoFFB)
_______________________________________

Can't be, there aren't any girls on the internet....

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 02:21 PM (aQQbl)

215 The age of consent in Illinois is 17, and Pennsylvania cannot prosecute someone for violating another state's laws.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:19 PM (39g3+)

of course not. Did I say that? No i did not. I am merely pointing out that this case is not a slam dunk and the voluntary drug use by the alleged victims makes it messy. The state will have a hard time proving specific intent to rape.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:21 PM (zOTsN)

216 Hey now they could just coincidentally have the exact same IP and e-mail identifier to generate that hash...

Actually, in fairness, there was a Moron in good standing who almost got banned last year because he shared a hash with a troll.

Oh, (hah! the reader can't tell how long it took me to come up with that) (it was a while) it was Bigby and his various hand parts.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at May 24, 2016 02:21 PM (1xUj/)

217 .if you were in a room with a passed out or consent incapable women, would you have sex with her? Yes or No?

No, because that would be immoral and sinful. Even if she was giving consent, if she wasn't my wife.

What's at stake here is legality, not morality. I am extremely opposed to claiming someone getting drunk and having sex is rape.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:21 PM (39g3+)

218 >>>I'm willing to give kids a pass because they aren't adults and do not have the experience or skills to deal with life. If you're 30 and whining about being abused and forced into taking drugs.. no. If you're 13 and that happens? Yeah, I'll buy it.
...

Point taken.

In the old days, we had a solution for that as well. Parents, schools, and communities.

Not getting into drugs was a fairly easy decision for me when I was 13. I knew that if I came home stoned, my parents would have a shit fit, it'd probably get the shit slapped out of me, and I definately would be deprived of the opportunity to do it again until I was at least 30, even if it meant my parents taking me to the police station and acting as witnesses against me to lock my ass up. I knew I'd get caught because my parents bothered to pay attention to where I was going, who I was with, and would check up on me on occasion. I knew that they and other parents and responsible people conspired to look after us. My parents knew that if they didn't take responsibility for me as a minor dependent, they would be considered complicit in whatever shit I got up to and might end up in prison for it.

Short story: all of this could be fixed by locking up some special snowflake parents, sticking their brats with the grandparents, and some old school, common sense punishments for kids.

Rapist or not, Bill Cosby had it right when he said, "I brought you into this world... and I will take you out!"

Posted by: Damiano at May 24, 2016 02:21 PM (71OEY)

219 let me ask you a question...forgetting the culpability of any of these idiot girls...if you were in a room with a passed out or consent incapable women, would you have sex with her? Yes or No?
...
Even taking all of the moral repulsiveness out of the idea...no. I banged enough lifeless cheerleaders in my younger days to know that I don't want to do all of the work. A little positive recoil is nice.

Posted by: ajmojo at May 24, 2016 02:22 PM (1H9ox)

220 Frankly, if that's my family member you're facing the death penalty by burning from the feet up, as I throw adrenaline darts at you to keep you awake. That's MY law.

Prison would be a welcome respite.

There are perhaps fewer things more angering and despicable than sexual assault on someone who is unwilling or incapacitated.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2016 02:22 PM (O0lVq)

221 >>>
>>let me ask you a question - if you were in a room with a passed
out or consent incapable women, would you have sex with her? Yes or No?<<<

Hey, Hey, Hey!

Posted by: Fatty Arbuckle at May 24, 2016 02:23 PM (UzPAd)

222 No, because that would be immoral and sinful. Even if she was giving consent, if she wasn't my wife.

What's at stake here is legality, not morality. I am extremely opposed to claiming someone getting drunk and having sex is rape.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:21 PM (39g3+)

fine then we don't disagree that much...I am leaving up to a Jury to decide...I just think whether they find him guilty or not guilty, cosby is a scumbag and I hope he suffers some no matter what the outcome.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:23 PM (g31NN)

223 Not buying that. What would stop you from having sex with a 16- or 17-year-old girl who was drunk -- and even partying? The knowledge that it would effectively be rape?

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:18 PM (pC96u)

dont care if you arent buying it. Thats why its called STATUTORY rape

its only rape becuase we say so. There is no intent to rape required

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:23 PM (zOTsN)

224 What would stop you from having sex with a 16- or 17-year-old girl who was drunk -- and even partying?

Depending on the state, 16 years is legal, and we're talking about legality here, not morality. This is a court case not standing before God. I'm arguing that many of these cases ought not be considered legally actionable.

Some of these women are claiming exactly the same kind of thing that, when its not about Bill Cosby, everyone here mocks and considers stupid.

"I got drunk, so I couldn't give consent, so he raped me!!"

Do we really want that to be the legal standard?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:23 PM (39g3+)

225 Wait- was Dr. Huxtable a gynecologist, or did I get that wrong?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2016 02:24 PM (O0lVq)

226
No, because that would be immoral and sinful. Even if she was giving consent, if she wasn't my wife.

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Sidestepping the question. We're talking about rape, not adultery/infidelity.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:24 PM (pC96u)

227 The first time I read of it I thought I'd never get the stench out of my brain but managed to do so. Thanks for the unpleasant reminder.Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 24, 2016 02:09 PM (SEXy3)**hangs head**Sorry, NDH. I didn't mean to upset you. I'll take off for the day.See you all tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 24, 2016 02:24 PM (X6fMO)

228 I've actually been in this situation and she was NAKED, and no. I didn't.
=====

What nobody seems to realize is that IT DOES NOT MATTER. The allegations are out there and somehow whatever rich scumbag has to disprove the negative. It will be you and I the next time. Constitutional rights should be the same for rich or poor, tabloid fodder or not.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 24, 2016 02:24 PM (MIKMs)

229 229 Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2016 02:24 PM (O0lVq)

OB/GYN yes....

that was a "fuck you" to the mirror I think...

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:25 PM (g8Hfr)

230 229 Wait- was Dr. Huxtable a gynecologist, or did I get that wrong?
...
You are correct sir.

Posted by: ajmojo at May 24, 2016 02:25 PM (1H9ox)

231

If you have sex with a woman who is passed out cold she is incapable of consent and that is rape

the state will have to prove she was passed out cold.

Cosby had handlers around him, taking these girls home, giving them money

they can testify too ya know.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:25 PM (zOTsN)

232
Short story: all of this could be fixed by locking up some special snowflake parents, sticking their brats with the grandparents, and some old school, common sense punishments for kids.

What if you're 12 years old and the director says you have to be at this party to get the part, and men start fondling you? That's enough to turn someone to drugs. Being fag-raped by men and nobody wants to believe or listen to you, and having nowhere to turn? Yeah I can buy you become a junkie.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:26 PM (39g3+)

233
What would stop you from having sex with a 16- or 17-year-old girl who was drunk -- and even partying?

Depending on the state, 16 years is legal, and we're talking about legality here, not morality. This is a court case not standing before God. I'm arguing that many of these cases ought not be considered legally actionable.

Some of these women are claiming exactly the same kind of thing that, when its not about Bill Cosby, everyone here mocks and considers stupid.

"I got drunk, so I couldn't give consent, so he raped me!!"

Do we really want that to be the legal standard?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:23 PM (39g3+)

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You didn't copy in the rest of my question: The knowledge that it would effectively be rape?

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:26 PM (pC96u)

234 There's always room for jello pudding pops and prison rape. But mostly prison rape.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2016 02:26 PM (bzd8I)

235 You have to appreciate the irony of that turd being protected by bodyguards, the police and lawyers.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2016 02:26 PM (O0lVq)

236 "I hate to be the one to say this but... if you're partying at the Playboy Mansion... that's implied consent."

What??? Damn. No it's not.

Showing up for a party is not consent to be drugged and raped.

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 02:27 PM (KnOIi)

237 Yes. The Canary Islands airplane crash was partially caused by the main airport having bomb threats, one bomb went off in the airport and another was found and destroyed, I believe.

Posted by: Dang at May 24, 2016 02:20 PM (/77HP)

Interesting. I just Googled it and got the story. This is the first time I've heard of an actual bomb in conjunction with a bomb threat.

I'll be interested in hearing of any others.

Posted by: jwest at May 24, 2016 02:27 PM (Zs4uk)

238 Cosby had handlers around him, taking these girls home, giving them money

they can testify too ya know.

The problem is that's all pretty weak sauce in a court, without tangible evidence. Unless they have something a heck of a lot more substantive, the prosecutor has a really weak case against a very rich man.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:27 PM (39g3+)

239 Mrs. Garrett gave me a Jello Pudding Pop if I gave her a pearl necklace!!

Posted by: Haven Monahan, III at May 24, 2016 02:27 PM (A6a7C)

240 >>Cosby had handlers around him, taking these girls home, giving them money

A simple Gift Basket and an autographed Jersey would have kept all of this out of the news.

Posted by: Derek Jeter at May 24, 2016 02:27 PM (aoFFB)

241 I love rapists! Trump Tower serves the best pudding pops! Happy veinte y cuatro de mayo!

Posted by: Bill Trump at May 24, 2016 02:27 PM (1H9ox)

242 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 24, 2016 01:44 PM (Xo1Rt),

Here's why I can believe that this went on and no one went to the police.

Some people are overwhelmed by fame, money, and power. I have an ex friend, who admittedly has poor judgement, and a lack of decent values.

During all that controversy when people were bringing up accusations about Michael Jackson having boys stay overnight in his room, I said to her that I couldn't understand how any parent could allow their kid to do an overnight with an adult, much less an adult as weird as Michael Jackson. Seriously, her response was, "Yeah, but it's Michael Jackson."

I can believe that there are people who kept their mouths shut because it was BILL COSBY.

And, yes, these are just charges, and it is possible, that some/all of them are based on a chance to get money. But it's also very likely that at least some of them are true.

I hate thinking about it because I always admired Cosby.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2016 02:28 PM (SXU3d)

243 A little positive recoil is nice.
__________________________________

Can you define positive, for a friend of course...

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 02:28 PM (aQQbl)

244 >>Showing up for a party is not consent to be drugged and raped.

Unless that Party is the Annual AoSHQ #6 Dance, of course.

Posted by: Derek Jeter at May 24, 2016 02:28 PM (aoFFB)

245
Cosby had handlers around him, taking these girls home, giving them money

they can testify too ya know.
Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:25 PM (zOTsN)
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One of them has come out and confirmed that he delivered the girls to Cosby for years -- or that he knew it was happening, can't remember which -- but there is an old guy who confirmed that Bill had such handlers.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:28 PM (pC96u)

246 I wonder how Quaalude flavored pudding pops are going to go over?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 24, 2016 02:28 PM (4ErVI)

247 you have to be so intoxicated you cant consent and the other person has to know you are incapable of consent. Like not just sloppy, but passed out cold

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:29 PM (zOTsN)

248 Sidestepping the question. We're talking about rape, not adultery/infidelity.

I'm not married. Its immoral and sinful for me to have sex with a woman who is not my wife. That's my standard. There is no sidestepping going on here.

Focus: we're talking about legalities here.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:29 PM (39g3+)

249 "I hate to be the one to say this but... if you're partying at the Playboy Mansion... that's implied consent."

So by your reasoning it's 'implied consent' to be beaten, shot or stabbed when going out to dinner in a rougher part of town.

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 02:29 PM (KnOIi)

250 Statutory rape in SC depends on the age of the child.

between 14 and15 gets you 15 years,

< 14 gets you 20 years

< 11 gets you 30 years

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 24, 2016 02:29 PM (vvmPQ)

251 >>I wonder how Quaalude flavored pudding pops are going to go over?

...or, under.

iykwim.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 24, 2016 02:29 PM (aoFFB)

252
During all that controversy when people were bringing up accusations about Michael Jackson having boys stay overnight in his room, I said to her that I couldn't understand how any parent could allow their kid to do an overnight with an adult, much less an adult as weird as Michael Jackson. Seriously, her response was, "Yeah, but it's Michael Jackson."

I can believe that there are people who kept their mouths shut because it was BILL COSBY.
-------------------------

And you know a jury would be saying the same thing.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:30 PM (pC96u)

253 250 Statutory rape in SC depends on the age of the child.

between 14 and15 gets you 15 years,

...
I was promised there would be no math.

Posted by: ajmojo at May 24, 2016 02:30 PM (1H9ox)

254
let me ask you a question...forgetting the culpability of any of these idiot girls...if you were in a room with a passed out or consent incapable women, would you have sex with her? Yes or No?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:18 PM (g31NN)
____________________________

Well, duh....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 24, 2016 02:30 PM (HSmrB)

255 One of them has come out and confirmed that he delivered the girls to Cosby for years -- or that he knew it was happening, can't remember which -- but there is an old guy who confirmed that Bill had such handlers.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:28 PM (pC96u)

exactly

no one is denying he had girls delivered to him, they did drugs and then they had sex

the only issue is consent. did they consent. did he reasonably believe they consented

these handlers can testify to the fact the girls were semi lucid and ambulatory it will hurt their cases

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:30 PM (zOTsN)

256 Bing Crosby seemed so nice in all those movies on TV.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 24, 2016 02:30 PM (8ZskC)

257 Calling Dov Charney, white courtesy telephone please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dov_Charney

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at May 24, 2016 02:30 PM (ucB75)

258 Showing up for a party is not consent to be drugged and raped.

You're well named. Feel free to add many more qualfiers to the statement that totally change it. Are you sure you don't want to add the words "Nazi" "murder" and "skinned alive" to change it more?

Showing up TO THE PLAYBOY MANSION for a party is implied consent for sexual activity.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:31 PM (39g3+)

259 244 >>Showing up for a party is not consent to be drugged and raped.

Wait, WHAT?? Are you sure? Shit, Jackie, I'm sorry ...

Posted by: Haven Monahan, III at May 24, 2016 02:31 PM (A6a7C)

260 One of them has come out and confirmed that he delivered the girls to Cosby for years -- or that he knew it was happening, can't remember which -- but there is an old guy who confirmed that Bill had such handlers.
Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:28 PM (pC96u)

No need for that...Cosby in his own depositions admitted that his "talent agency" procured girls for him and you can be G-D damn sure they did not do that thinking they were doing his laundry late at night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:31 PM (g31NN)

261 >>>let me ask you a question...forgetting the culpability of any of these idiot girls...if you were in a room with a passed out or consent incapable women, would you have sex with her? Yes or No?
....

Excellent question. Short answer: Absolutely not. 1- it's morally wrong to me, 2- I like sex with active people, not semi-corpses, 3- I was probably drinking with her and am just and drunk and want to just go to sleep also.

That said, my counter question: Person (male or female, doesn't matter) goes out to a bar, meets someone that they flirt with all night and have drinks, persons agree to go back to someplace and consent to engaging in further recreation (drugs, etc.), additional recreation becomes increasingly clothing optional due self inflicted removal of clothing... everyone wakes up the next days with massive hangovers, naked, covered in what may or may not be KY, and without a very clear idea of exactly what happened other than being sore...

Did rape occur?

Posted by: Damiano at May 24, 2016 02:31 PM (71OEY)

262 250 Statutory rape in SC depends on the age of the child.
---------------------------

Elsewhere, it depends on how hot the female teacher is.

Posted by: Roy at May 24, 2016 02:32 PM (VndSC)

263 Hollywood and the music industry are rife with these stories of predators with power who prey upon those who are desperate for fame and have been for decades.

Posted by: Cheri at May 24, 2016 02:32 PM (oiNtH)

264 A trial? You mean, like use it for free to see if you like it?

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at May 24, 2016 02:32 PM (8ZskC)

265 Showing up TO THE PLAYBOY MANSION for a party is implied consent for sexual activity.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:31 PM (39g3+)

Yeah I don't think so...some stretch there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:32 PM (g31NN)

266 these handlers can testify to the fact the girls were semi lucid and ambulatory it will hurt their cases

Even if they weren't that doesn't imply that he drugged them and had sex with them while passed out. It just means they left the place stoned and messed up. That's all the defense has to point out.

That's why cases like this usually don't get to trial: two people saying contradictory things is just a mess to try to convict. It's not about what you are sure of or know. Its about what you can prove in a court of law. And every lawyer and cop knows the worst kind of evidence is eyewitness testimony.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:33 PM (39g3+)

267 That said, my counter question: Person (male or female, doesn't matter) goes out to a bar, meets someone that they flirt with all night and have drinks, persons agree to go back to someplace and consent to engaging in further recreation (drugs, etc.), additional recreation becomes increasingly clothing optional due self inflicted removal of clothing... everyone wakes up the next days with massive hangovers, naked, covered in what may or may not be KY, and without a very clear idea of exactly what happened other than being sore...

Did rape occur?
Posted by: Damiano at May

this is the issue

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (zOTsN)

268 "Showing up TO THE PLAYBOY MANSION for a party is implied consent for sexual activity."

NO IT'S NOT.

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (KnOIi)

269
I'm not married. Its immoral and sinful for me to have sex with a woman who is not my wife. That's my standard. There is no sidestepping going on here.

Focus: we're talking about legalities here.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:29 PM (39g3+)
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No, you're the one who wants to narrow this down to legalities, and you said a 16-year-old girl who's partying at the Playboy mansion is giving implied consent. But I'll play along: give me the legal basis for that.

Posted by: iforgot at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (pC96u)

270 I'm leaning towards the 'retribution for his public attempt to shame his community for behavior that leads to the circumstances they find themselves in' camp.

Posted by: DanMan at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (Kdfnm)

271 Yeah I don't think so...some stretch there

Seriously? Are you... unaware of what Playboy is, and what those parties were like? The whole Playboy philosophy? Its like going to a party thrown for the Superbowl champions and not expecting football to come up. Be serious here.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (39g3+)

272 everyone wakes up the next days with massive hangovers, naked, covered in what may or may not be KY, and without a very clear idea of exactly what happened other than being sore...

Did rape occur?
Posted by: Damiano at May 24, 2016 02:31 PM (71OEY)

In his deposition cosby says he NEVER took the drugs...so only one side here was passed out...but yeah it could be rape and I would leave that to a jury to decide

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (g31NN)

273
But Polanski considered himself above the slap of the wrist or, at worst, 3 or 4 months his plea deal got him.

Laws are for the little people!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 24, 2016 02:15 PM (T/5A0)

Well ... isn't Polanski something like 5'2"? He qualifies as one of the little people.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (oKE6c)

274 He is scummy, its a scummy way to behave and he is a cad

none of that is illegal

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:35 PM (zOTsN)

275 Showing up TO THE PLAYBOY MANSION for a party is implied consent for sexual activity.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:31 PM (39g3+)

I have to disagree. Going to a party at Hef's house is certainly an adult affair but does not mean a person is consenting to sex.

Posted by: Cheri at May 24, 2016 02:35 PM (oiNtH)

276 Seriously? Are you... unaware of what Playboy is, and what those parties were like? The whole Playboy philosophy? Its like going to a party thrown for the Superbowl champions and not expecting football to come up. Be serious here.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (39g3+)

I am well aware and that is not consent to have sex. No Way, No How, No Never.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:36 PM (g31NN)

277 266 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:33 PM (39g3+)

for perspective there is less concrete evidence that the talent agency gals were raped than there was that Juanita B was assaulted by Clennis.

Juanita was observed by witnesses immediately after said event with puffy lips from his biting and a disheveled appearance...

Were I a jurist if the case is proven against Bill Cosby I'd gladly convict but it will be huge mountain to climb because of the distance from the time of the event involved now.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:36 PM (g8Hfr)

278 covered in what may or may not be KY, and without a very clear idea of exactly what happened other than being sore...

Did rape occur?
___________________________________________________

Depends, am I chewing my arm off instead of waking her and asking why I'm covered in what may or may not be glitter and corn oil?

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 02:36 PM (aQQbl)

279 Why is there air?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (k4M/B)

280 >>covered in what may or may not be KY, and without a very clear idea of exactly what happened other than being sore...

or, as Ace calls it, Morning.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (aoFFB)

281 The sex is free but dammit you have to pay for the drinks.

Posted by: Hugh Hefner at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (8ZskC)

282 In his deposition cosby says he NEVER took the drugs...so only one side here was passed out...but yeah it could be rape and I would leave that to a jury to decide

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (g31NN)

his not taking the drugs doesnt make it rape. Did they know they were taking drugs? Were they still capable of consent? Did he have a reasonable belief they were incapable of consent?

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (zOTsN)

283 Just pretend it's a Jello puddin' pop. With the puddin' at the end.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (OZmbA)

284 going to a party, in the playboy mansion is not consent to sex......seriously......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (0O7c5)

285
He is scummy, its a scummy way to behave and he is a cad

none of that is illegal Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:35 PM (zOTsN)
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Thank you.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (MIKMs)

286 Depends, am I chewing my arm off instead of waking her and asking why I'm covered in what may or may not be glitter and corn oil?
Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 02:36 PM (aQQbl)
***
Somebody's been reading my Twitter feed...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (lutOX)

287 It's time for Trump to throw out the race card re Cosby and Clinton.

Posted by: artist at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (TwnkX)

288 If it's 'implied consent' why do they have to drug them without their knowledge?

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 02:38 PM (KnOIi)

289 The age of consent in CA where the Playboy Mansion is at is 18. The age difference between the raper and the raped determines whether it is charged as a felony or a misdemeanor.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 24, 2016 02:38 PM (vvmPQ)

290 270 Posted by: DanMan at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (Kdfnm)

I think that is why Jack$on/$harpton Inc is not engaged in "I is outraged" I think the timing of the event has more to do with his age and the desire for payouts than that though.

If they wait too much longer they'll be negotiating with a coffin.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:38 PM (g8Hfr)

291 >>> Showing up TO THE PLAYBOY MANSION for a party is implied consent for sexual activity.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:31 PM (39g3+)

Scenario: You go to a party at the Playboy Mansion. After drinking a bunch of booze and getting turned down by all the playmates and hangers on, Quazimodo with an 18" cock comes up and growls into your ear, "Looking for a good time?". Before you can answer, he ties you up with his nose hair tentacles and stuffs all 18 inches up your ass.

Where you raped or did you imply consent by showing up to tha party and getting drunk?

Posted by: Damiano at May 24, 2016 02:38 PM (71OEY)

292 >>>Showing up TO THE PLAYBOY MANSION for a party is implied consent for sexual activity.<<<

Shh. He's rolling.

Posted by: Fritz at May 24, 2016 02:38 PM (UzPAd)

293 Just remember: if a man is merely accused of a sexual crime, he's ruined, even if the woman completely and utterly recants and is prove to be wrong in court. He's ruined. Even if she goes on a world tour telling everyone how she lied and he's totally innocent, he's ruined.

So I hold this stuff to an extremely high standard of legal requirements. If you're going to destroy a man's life, reputation, career, and future, it better damn well be true.

The only exception to this rule is if they're a powerful leftist who is admired for his political positions, then the woman is a cheap worthless lying slut and he's a hero.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:38 PM (39g3+)

294 280 >>covered in what may or may not be KY, and without a very clear idea of exactly what happened other than being sore...

or, as Ace calls it, Morning.
Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (aoFFB)
***
Crack of noon - so to speak - West Coast time....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 02:39 PM (lutOX)

295 >>283 Just pretend it's a Jello puddin' pop. With the puddin' at the end.

Posted by: Bill Cosby

Aw, hell, I'm gonna use that!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 24, 2016 02:39 PM (OZmbA)

296 >>>Showing up TO THE PLAYBOY MANSION for a party is implied consent for sexual activity.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:31 PM (39g3+)<<<

That is real retarded, sir.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at May 24, 2016 02:39 PM (H9MG5)

297 "Quazimodo with an 18" cock comes up and growls into your ear, "Looking for a good time?". Before you can answer, he ties you up with his nose hair tentacles and stuffs all 18 inches up your ass. "

That's one Hell of a visual.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 24, 2016 02:39 PM (LA7Cm)

298 "I hate thinking about it because I always admired Cosby."

I couldn't figure out why the rest of America were not detecting the same oddity which I sensed in the 1980s, back when Cosby had the highest rated show on TV, Michael Jackson was packing stadiums, and O.J. Simpson was a movie star.

Well, I still don't know why the rest of America didn't pick up on that.

(And of course people edged away from me at the time when I did express unease. Rayciss eleventy!)

But what's clear is that these guys prospered in America's entertainment industry because America's entertainment industry is a sick, sick place, run by the worst people in the world.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 24, 2016 02:39 PM (noWW6)

299 273---Well ... isn't Polanski something like 5'2"? He qualifies as one of the little people.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM
-----------------
LOL.
I am not one of those people who wish rape on prisoners, but in Polanski's case, justice would have had him do a few years in the general population at Chino.
He would then find out what it is like to be cute and little and at the mercy of the goodwill of the powerful.

IOW, he would exactly be in his victim's shoes.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 24, 2016 02:40 PM (T/5A0)

300 Many youngsters are old souls.

Posted by: Roamin' Polanski at May 24, 2016 02:40 PM (o9vm9)

301 Somebody's been reading my Twitter feed...
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (lutOX)

________________________________________

Quit twitter a couple months back.
Wait, that means we've both been to the same S. Chicago bar?

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 02:40 PM (aQQbl)

302 "and Pennsylvania cannot prosecute someone for violating another state's laws."

But in this case PA can allow other women to testify about how they say they were raped by Cosby in other states, even years after the statute of limitations expired in those states. It's like a multi-state criminal class action.

DA can pick several of the best witnesses to testify and then it's no longer a single he said / she said from 12 years ago. He'll likely pick those who said they didn't agree to take any drugs, and be sure to have a racially diverse set of witnesses.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 24, 2016 02:41 PM (r1fLd)

303 Where you raped or did you imply consent by showing up to tha party and getting drunk?

Amazing how people keep changing the standards to make a point totally unrelated to the obvious truth.

Imagine this scenario: you're a beautiful girl who goes to a party knowing drugs and alcohol are going to be freely flowing, in a mansion infamous around the world for being the site of massive orgies and non-stop sex, involving naked women, by the publisher of Playboy, who kicked off the sexual revolution.

If you end up having sex there, is anyone surprised?

Rape is rape; that's always wrong and never by its legal and technical definition by consent. I mean... really? Does that have to be said? Seriously?

But if you go to a party that's obvious to the meanest intellect on earth is a sex party, you're going there to get laid. Not to get raped, but to get laid.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:41 PM (39g3+)

304 If it's 'implied consent' why do they have to drug them without their knowledge?

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 02:38 PM (KnOIi

most of the women knew they were taking qualudes

it wasnt with out their knowledge

IIRC the one in PA said he gave her some benedryl which was really a quaalude

they are going to crawl all over her drug use past

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:41 PM (zOTsN)

305 his not taking the drugs doesnt make it rape. Did they know they were taking drugs? Were they still capable of consent? Did he have a reasonable belief they were incapable of consent?
Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:37 PM (zOTsN)

I was only commenting on the hypothetical situation presented to me where both parties were drugged out and I was only pointing out in the cosby case only the demale side was zonked out and I have siad from that get go that although I think he is a scumbag and deserves some grief, it is up to a jury and only a jury to decide his guilt.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:42 PM (g31NN)

306 "Before you can answer, he ties you up with his nose hair tentacles and stuffs all 18 inches up your ass."

Haha. Right. So the guys at the party gave 'implied consent' to be drugged and raped by some butch gay guy.

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 02:42 PM (KnOIi)

307 " I am extremely opposed to claiming someone getting drunk and having sex is rape."

Yo! Some chick had her cappucino drugged.

Its not 12 beers and blackout sex.

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 02:43 PM (UBBWX)

308 But in this case PA can allow other women to testify about how they say they were raped by Cosby in other states, even years after the statute of limitations expired in those states. It's like a multi-state criminal class action.

DA can pick several of the best witnesses to testify and then it's no longer a single he said / she said from 12 years ago. He'll likely pick those who said they didn't agree to take any drugs, and be sure to have a racially diverse set of witnesses.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 24, 2016 02:41 PM (r1fLd)

prosecutor can use the testimony of the other women to impeach a witness (disprove their testimony) or to establish a pattern or practice of behavior by the defendant. Only if the judge lets them

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:43 PM (zOTsN)

309 Wait, that means we've both been to the same S. Chicago bar?

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 02:40 PM (aQQbl)
***
In the absence of definitive proof, and on advice of counsel, I state that there is no evidence to support your scurrilous claims.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 02:43 PM (lutOX)

310 Re: Playboy Mansion Implied Consent

THE SIGN ABOVE THE DOOR BELL READS:

If you don't swing, don't ring.

...

Sure, it's in Latin, but that is beside the point.

Sua Sponte.

Excelsior.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at May 24, 2016 02:43 PM (uhftQ)

311 "But if you go to a party that's obvious to the meanest intellect on earth is a sex party, you're going there to get laid. Not to get raped, but to get laid."

CT, what about strippers? They get up on stage naked and dance for money. If some guy waits in the parking lot for his favorite girl to come out at closing time and rapes her, did she imply consent by dancing naked in front of him?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 24, 2016 02:43 PM (LA7Cm)

312 Yo! Some chick had her cappucino drugged.

Assuming she's telling the truth, that would be, by definition, different than "someone getting drunk and having sex" then, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:44 PM (39g3+)

313 "But if you go to a party that's obvious to the meanest intellect on earth is a sex party, you're going there to get laid."

This is not true. You may just wish to observe and not take part.

Also, I'm pretty sure you can choose your partners at sex parties.

Its not "oh, since you're here, you have to bone the most disgusting guy here!"

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 02:46 PM (UBBWX)

314 Speaking of scumbags and I mean both the client and the lawyer:

Accused child-killer Casey Anthony paid her lawyer with sex, according to a report Tuesday.

A private investigator hired by Caseys lawyer, Jose Baez, in her murder case claimed that he learned that Anthony was trading sex for legal representation after a TV show requested an interview with her that she didnt want to do in 2008, according to the gossip website RadarOnline.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:46 PM (g31NN)

315
CT, what about strippers? They get up on stage naked and dance for money. If some guy waits in the parking lot for his favorite girl to come out at closing time and rapes her, did she imply consent by dancing naked in front of him?

Seriously?

I have never been to a strip club, but are they infamous round the world for being a place of orgies, constant sexual activity, drugs, and alcohol thrown by the founder of the sexual revolution?

I suspect not, somehow.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:46 PM (39g3+)

316 [Cosby] admitted to having numerous sexual encounters with teenagers, which involved an agency sending him "five to six" young models on a weekly basis, in between filming his sitcom

-
Is this the We B Ho's agency? (Askng for a friend.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 24, 2016 02:46 PM (Nwg0u)

317 Its not "oh, since you're here, you have to bone the most disgusting guy here!"

I know, tell me about it

Posted by: Couch Fucker at May 24, 2016 02:47 PM (uAvJJ)

318
CT, what about strippers? They get up on stage
naked and dance for money. If some guy waits in the parking lot for his
favorite girl to come out at closing time and rapes her, did she imply
consent by dancing naked in front of him?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 24, 2016 02:43 PM (LA7Cm)
look at her profession!!!! obviously she wanted it!!!!!///

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 24, 2016 02:47 PM (0O7c5)

319 'Assuming she's telling the truth, that would be, by definition, different than "someone getting drunk and having sex" then, wouldn't it?'

Which should give you pause in assuming Bill C was just "partying" with girls.

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 02:47 PM (UBBWX)

320

Playboy girl was under 18, her intent to get laid is irrelevant. Shes jail bait. Its illegal. Do not touch

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:47 PM (zOTsN)

321 Hey hey hey!

- Chubby Albert

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 24, 2016 02:47 PM (Nwg0u)

322 Another big tell that Cosby wasn't a particularly nice guy: how his publicity machine insisted for years that he be addressed as DOCTOR Cosby.

While what he was actually sporting was a bullshit "doctoral degree" from a school of education. A giveaway cereal box top credential.

It's "DOCTOR Jill Biden" syndrome.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 24, 2016 02:47 PM (noWW6)

323 Isn't it kind of racist to assume Cosby is a rapist and Clinton not?

I mean here we have to men accused of abuse and rape by multiple women... and the black guy the world figures is guilty but the white guy they say all the women are discredited.

What's the difference here, again?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:48 PM (39g3+)

324 "Rape is rape; that's always wrong and never by its legal and technical definition by consent. I mean... really? Does that have to be said? Seriously?"

"But if you go to a party that's obvious to the meanest intellect on earth is a sex party, you're going there to get laid. Not to get raped, but to get laid."

Talking out of both sides of your mouth.

You said going to a party at the Mansion was 'implied consent' to sex. So any sex that occurs cannot be rape. WRONG.

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 02:48 PM (KnOIi)

325 Playboy girl can be DTF, but if you do you can go to jail

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:48 PM (zOTsN)

326 >>>If you end up having sex there, is anyone surprised?

Rape is rape; that's always wrong and never by its legal and
technical definition by consent. I mean... really? Does that have to
be said? Seriously?
But if you go to a party that's obvious to the meanest intellect on earth is a sex party, you're going there to get laid. Not to get raped, but to get laid.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:41 PM (39g3+)<<<

Mr. ~~Madison~~ Taylor, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic
things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent
response were you even close to anything that could be considered a
rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having
listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your
soul.

Posted by: Billy Madison's principal at May 24, 2016 02:48 PM (H9MG5)

327 Playboy girl was under 18, her intent to get laid is irrelevant. Shes jail bait. Its illegal.

Legally, if she was 17, in Illinois, it was legal. Morally, its wrong.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:49 PM (39g3+)

328 Tourists go to Castro Street. But they are not then open game for gay guys.

"Oh, you knew it was a gay crazy town here. Now get on your knees and service moi!"

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 02:49 PM (UBBWX)

329 Isn't it kind of racist to assume Cosby is a rapist and Clinton not?

I mean here we have to men accused of abuse and rape by multiple women... and the black guy the world figures is guilty but the white guy they say all the women are discredited.

What's the difference here, again?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:48 PM (39g3+)

????

You new here? We all think clinton is a rapist

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:49 PM (g31NN)

330 "look at her profession!!!! obviously she wanted it!!!!!/// "

Zackly. If we're going to use proximity to activity to determine consent then.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 24, 2016 02:49 PM (LA7Cm)

331 this thread can't end too soon...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 24, 2016 02:49 PM (p2X2f)

332 A private investigator hired by Caseys lawyer, Jose Baez, in her murder case claimed that he learned that Anthony was trading sex for legal representation after a TV show requested an interview with her that she didnt want to do in 2008, according to the gossip website RadarOnline.

---

good luck collecting the social security tax

Posted by: Scrabble Champion at May 24, 2016 02:50 PM (oGRue)

333 I suspect not, somehow.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:46 PM (39g3+)
***
C.T. is right, of course.

The hypothetical stripper did not dance 'for' her assailant, nor did she mean to attract his attention any more than she meant to draw the notice of any others in the joint, and certainly not as an invitation or a prelude to any noncommercial activity outside the well-regulated environment of the establishment in question.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 02:50 PM (lutOX)

334 Playboy girl was under 18, her intent to get laid is irrelevant. Shes jail bait. Its illegal.

Legally, if she was 17, in Illinois, it was legal. Morally, its wrong.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:49 PM (39g3+)

but she was in CA. Where the Playboy Mansion is. Age of consent is 18. She says she wasn't. Therefore, fucking her in CA can put your ass in jail even if she begged for it

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:50 PM (zOTsN)

335 I'm just kinda' confused on how I feel about ThunderB being so up on all this rape - not rape knowledge.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 02:50 PM (tbq1U)

336 TRUMP!

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 02:51 PM (aQQbl)

337
166 Drudge is trolling Hillary hard on this one. Front picture is Cosby giving some sort of speech with Cankles (and Chelsea) cackling behind him.
That dude cracks me up sometimes.

Posted by: ajmojo at May 24, 2016 02:10 PM (1H9ox)

Chuckie Schumer as well.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 24, 2016 02:51 PM (eDaPX)

338 You said going to a party at the Mansion was 'implied consent' to sex. So any sex that occurs cannot be rape. WRONG.

I'm so glad you can speak for me, since I'm clearly incapable of doing so and have proven I cannot type for myself.

Rape cannot be consented to. By its definition it is without consent. So it does not apply. Nor does "implied consent" mean everyone in the party can then sex someone up.

What I meant by that - as should be clear from the 10 or so previous posts - was that going to a sex party means you're looking to get laid.

How in the hell is this even remotely controversial? What would compel people to argue this?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:51 PM (39g3+)

339 "Contrast that with the mom who dropped her 12-year-old off on Mulholland Drive."

In her defense it was the 70's.

Kids were more independent then.

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 02:51 PM (UBBWX)

340 Is any of this contemporary allegations? As far as I can remember, Bill Clinton's alleged victims made a stink at the time (and had the Hillabeast on their cases). Are any of Cosby's accusers complainants at the time? Don't think so.
So there appears to be no statutory limitations on these allegations. May or may not be true, but it doesn't matter. Persons accused of some form of 'abuse' is tabloid fodder anyway. Salem witches and daycare satanists.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 24, 2016 02:52 PM (MIKMs)

341 331 this thread can't end too soon...
***
Here, this will liven things up.

David French at NRO just penned an article calling on Mitt Romney to run 3rd party in 2016.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 24, 2016 02:52 PM (5OEha)

342 I'm just kinda' confused on how I feel about ThunderB being so up on all this rape - not rape knowledge.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 02:50 PM (tbq1U

I was a prosecutor. I prosecuted alot of sex crimes. You are safe with me, sorta

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 02:52 PM (zOTsN)

343 "going to a sex party means you're looking to get laid."

Or you could just be curious but not interested in getting laid.

Or you could just be interested in getting laid with someone you are attracted to, rather than being held down by a fat old man.

Its not as simple as you imagine.

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 02:52 PM (UBBWX)

344 Candy, flowers, and some roofies will get you more than candy and flowers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 24, 2016 02:53 PM (Nwg0u)

345 You new here? We all think clinton is a rapist

...Where did I say otherwise?

Maybe I should go do something else, people here are a bit off kilter today.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:53 PM (39g3+)

346 In his deposition cosby says he NEVER took the drugs...so only one side here was passed out...but yeah it could be rape and I would leave that to a jury to decide
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:34 PM (g31NN)

Ethically, I agree with you. I would never do that to anyone. Equally important, I would not allow myself to be in a position to have that happen to me.

My opinion legally (not a lawyer, don't want to be one, and did not sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night... but if I was a juror) is that rapes is an act of someone imposing power over an unwilling victim.

If Person A's agent says, "Hey would you like to get together with Person A for the evening?", Person B consents, Person A says, "Hey, how about coming back to my place where you can do some drugs and get naked?" Person B consents... Person B willingly takes drugs, gets naked, and passes out... I'm of the opinion that Person A is a scumbag but Person B doesn't get to call it rape because they consented to every action that any reasonable person would conclude may result in unethical and immoral things occurring.

Shorter version: if the result of your series of bad decisions and irresponsible behavior is sex and/ or other actions that you come to regret later... it is not someone else imposing power over you against your will and consent.

Posted by: Damiano at May 24, 2016 02:54 PM (71OEY)

347 "But if you go to a party that's obvious to the meanest intellect on earth is a sex party, you're going there to get laid."

These parties had thousands of guests over the years. They had regular parties too not just orgies. These women were guests, not sex workers. They went to a party and were intentionally drugged so they could be raped and confused about what had happened.

Why do you think the date rape drug - Rohypnol is illegal?

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 02:54 PM (KnOIi)

348 Easy on the old fat men sexypig...

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 02:54 PM (aQQbl)

349 How in the hell is this even remotely controversial? What would compel people to argue this?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:51 PM (39g3+)

some people just like to watch.....

Posted by: chauncy gardner at May 24, 2016 02:54 PM (0O7c5)

350 but she was in CA. Where the Playboy Mansion is. Age of consent is 18.

Huh, I thought the Playboy Mansion was in Chicago. I must be behind the times on Playboy stuff.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:55 PM (39g3+)

351 "Huh, I thought the Playboy Mansion was in Chicago. I must be behind the times on Playboy stuff."

Forty years-ago it was.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 24, 2016 02:56 PM (LA7Cm)

352 You new here? We all think clinton is a rapist

...Where did I say otherwise?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:53 PM (39g3+)

You said:

Isn't it kind of racist to assume Cosby is a rapist and Clinton not?

I mean here we have to men accused of abuse and rape by multiple women... and the black guy the world figures is guilty but the white guy they say all the women are discredited.

What's the difference here, again?

Most of us here don't see a difference, they are both scumbags. Maybe you need to phrase things better

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:56 PM (g31NN)

353 So ThunderB ...

... if I go home with this chic at work that's pretty flirty with me, chain myself to her bed, give myself a quaalude, and later on buy her jewelry - because after twenty years my wife has morphed into a frigid, hateful troll ...

... is that rape ? Oh, asking for a friend.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 02:56 PM (tbq1U)

354 "Equally important, I would not allow myself to be in a position to have that happen to me."

Sure. You'd refuse to meet with a potentially huge connection in your industry?

I've gone up to hotel rooms with my customers. If they drugged and raped me, you'd blame me?

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 02:56 PM (UBBWX)

355 I was a prosecutor. I prosecuted alot of sex crimes. You are safe with me, sorta

Thanks for helping get these pervs off the street.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 24, 2016 02:56 PM (4f7zr)

356 17 and at the Playboy Club - jury nullification.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 24, 2016 02:56 PM (iQIUe)

357 some people just like to watch.....
Posted by: chauncy gardner

HODOR!

Posted by: Hodor at May 24, 2016 02:56 PM (p2X2f)

358 They had regular parties too not just orgies.

Dude. Playboy mansion. There are no "regular" non-sex parties there.

hey went to a party and were intentionally drugged so they could be raped and confused about what had happened.

Assuming that happened, and isnt just their claim, that would be different than what I'm saying, would it not? How many times do I have to repeat that?

The advantage of text is that you can re-read and consider and even look up what someone said, right? Its in plain English?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:57 PM (39g3+)

359 That's one Hell of a visual.

That dude with Vox has no idea how good he has it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 24, 2016 02:57 PM (9krrF)

360 350 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:55 PM (39g3+)

He franchised "Playboy Clubs" of course there are also "Hustler Clubs"...

only mansion I know of is on Charring Cross Road...

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:57 PM (g8Hfr)

361 trading sex for legal representation after a TV show requested an interview with her that she didnt want to do
=====

Neat trick since as far as I can recall, the Anthony woman was incarcerated the whole time.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 24, 2016 02:57 PM (MIKMs)

362 This oldthread smells of stale socks and rape, but mostly rape

Posted by: wooga at May 24, 2016 02:57 PM (B9hIz)

363 He should have gone into politics as a Democrat.

Posted by: Joseph dagostino at May 24, 2016 02:57 PM (rgj9x)

364 "going to a sex party means you're looking to get laid."

Or you could just be curious but not interested in getting laid.

Or you could just be interested in getting laid with someone you are attracted to, rather than being held down by a fat old man.

Its not as simple as you imagine.
Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 02:52 PM (UBBWX)

Or you could just be familiar with Cosby's public image back then, and have it not occur to you in a million years he'd try to slip you a date rape drug.

Posted by: AD at May 24, 2016 02:58 PM (gcKVd)

365 "Huh, I thought the Playboy Mansion was in Chicago. I must be behind the times on Playboy stuff."

Forty years-ago it was.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill

Order to vacate lawn in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 24, 2016 02:58 PM (9krrF)

366 trading sex for legal representation after a TV show requested an interview with her that she didnt want to do
=====

Neat trick since as far as I can recall, the Anthony woman was incarcerated the whole time.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 24, 2016 02:57 PM (MIKMs)

Not after her aquital and I am not 100% sure, but you may be right, that she was not on bail?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 24, 2016 02:58 PM (g31NN)

367
I've gone up to hotel rooms with my customers. If they drugged and raped me, you'd blame me?

That seems like very unwise behavior, at best, to me. I would recommend you meet them in the restaurant or somewhere else, for your own safety and to avoid potential later complications with lawsuits.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:59 PM (39g3+)

368 I thought Playboy was a magazine, I didn't know Heff was a pimp.

Posted by: Fritz at May 24, 2016 02:59 PM (UzPAd)

369 I stand corrected the Original *was* in Chicago...

man....

the Hef was a lot better off in the 70s relatively speaking

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 02:59 PM (g8Hfr)

370 "Or you could just be familiar with Cosby's public image back then, and have it not occur to you in a million years he'd try to slip you a date rape drug."

Exactly.

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 02:59 PM (UBBWX)

371 "What I meant by that - as should be clear from the 10 or so previous posts - was that going to a sex party means you're looking to get laid."

You still don't get it. You are ascribing motives to these women. They were guests at a party. They didn't give 'implied consent' to sex just by showing up.

They weren't hired sex workers. They were drugged so they could be raped. If you had told them before the party that by showing up they were consenting to being drugged and raped I doubt they would have shown up.

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 03:00 PM (KnOIi)

372 Forty years-ago it was.

Huh, well the more you know, I guess.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 03:00 PM (39g3+)

373 Whether he is a serial rapist or not is a fact known only to him and all the women he raped.

Posted by Ace at 01:33 PM Comments

oh man
heh

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 24, 2016 03:00 PM (qCMvj)

374 362
This oldthread smells of stale socks and rape, but mostly rape

Posted by: wooga at May 24, 2016 02:57 PM (B9hIz)
and old musty couches

Posted by: Couch Fucker at May 24, 2016 03:01 PM (uAvJJ)

375 "That seems like very unwise behavior, at best, to me. I would recommend you meet them in the restaurant or somewhere else, for your own safety and to avoid potential later complications with lawsuits."

I'm a male and they were male. Not a big deal.

No lawsuits in China.

Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 03:01 PM (UBBWX)

376 374 Posted by: Couch Fucker at May 24, 2016 03:01 PM (uAvJJ)

YOU YOU MADE ME LIKE THIS!

//Old Musty Couch

Posted by: sven10077 at May 24, 2016 03:01 PM (g8Hfr)

377 and old musty couches

Posted by: Couch Fucker

And here I thought you'd have considered them old lusty couches.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 24, 2016 03:02 PM (4f7zr)

378 *giggle*

Posted by: Roman P. at May 24, 2016 03:03 PM (uPB8L)

379 I feel so dirty waiting for a nood.

(get it?)

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 03:03 PM (aQQbl)

380 it's almost like there's some reason that Miley Cyrus went from sweet little Hannah Montana to Bad Girl Skank...

-
Arrogant narcissism and cold hard cash?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 24, 2016 03:04 PM (Nwg0u)

381 Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 24, 2016 03:02 PM (4f7zr)
***
The words for which you are grasping, like a Tokyo subway groper reaching for a nice, round rump, are 'fusty' and 'musky,' i think.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 03:04 PM (lutOX)

382 I'm a male and they were male. Not a big deal.

Less problematic, true. But for a business meeting; a woman going into a guy's hotel room? Danger. A guy going into a woman's hotel room? Danger. Either way, you're just asking for trouble.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 03:04 PM (39g3+)

383 Whether he is a serial rapist or not is a fact known only to him and all the women he raped.

Posted by Ace at 01:33 PM Comments

oh man
heh
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 24, 2016 03:00 PM (qCMvj)

Ace is teh funneh.

And we should enjoy rape jokes. While we still can.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 24, 2016 03:05 PM (Dj0WE)

384 trading sex for legal representation after a TV show requested an interview with her that she didnt want to do

---

so he did the legal work Pro Boner

Posted by: Scrabble Champion at May 24, 2016 03:05 PM (oGRue)

385 These Pretzels.
Are.
Making me.
Thirsty.

Posted by: James T. Kirk at May 24, 2016 03:05 PM (aoFFB)

386 It appears that Harry Reid threw down the gauntlet with Hillary and forbade her from picking a Senator as running mate from a State with a Republican Governor.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 24, 2016 03:08 PM (iONHu)

387 Pop quiz...

If you're at a restaurant and you don't like the entr�e you ordered - you find it bland and not seasoned to the extent you expected - what do you say to the waiter when he asks if you like it?

Do you take the option of getting something else?

Posted by: jwest at May 24, 2016 03:08 PM (Zs4uk)

388 It appears that Harry Reid threw down the gauntlet with Hillary and forbade her from picking a Senator as running mate from a State with a Republican Governor.

---

he mansplained it to her

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 24, 2016 03:09 PM (oGRue)

389 so he did the legal work Pro Boner
Posted by: Scrabble Champion at May 24, 2016 03:05 PM (oGRue)
***
heh...

wonder what the dude's CPA calculated the cash-value of her services as....

Betcha he low-balled it, but still over-estimated it...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 03:09 PM (lutOX)

390 \
Or you could just be familiar with Cosby's public image back then, and have it not occur to you in a million years he'd try to slip you a date rape drug.

Thats laughable.Do you imagine Heff was selling tickets to tourist in town for the weekend? When I was a teenagermy best friends father was the pool guy at the Playboy mansion,during the summer we use to go to work with him and I went to the mansion a few timesafter a party to clean the pool.You'd spend a half hour there just fishing the bikinis out

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 24, 2016 03:10 PM (lKyWE)

391
Here,, all you ladies have a pint of gin and pass out already.. I'll take good care of you...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 24, 2016 03:10 PM (HSmrB)

392 Chris, you're a smart guy and you're letting your zeal for tangential cultural dilemmas make you look bad. Yes, the situation with rape accusations in this country is awful, and there needs to be more accountability to stop women from ruining the lives of innocent men with nothing more than a false accusation. But you're getting silly - showing up for a party, no matter the venue, is not 'implied consent' for anything more than partying.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 24, 2016 03:11 PM (kumBu)

393 So ThunderB ...

... if I go home with this chic at work that's pretty flirty with me, chain myself to her bed, give myself a quaalude, and later on buy her jewelry - because after twenty years my wife has morphed into a frigid, hateful troll ...

... is that rape ? Oh, asking for a friend.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 02:56 PM (tbq1U)

as your lawyer I must advise you

1. you do not shit where you eat. Do not dip your wick in the company inkwell, or vage

2. Do not let yourself be chained up

3. There is a reason Cosby didnt take the Qualude. Leer on face, no lead in pencil

4. Cash only, no jewelry or incriminating receipts

that is all

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 03:11 PM (zOTsN)

394 he promised he could get her off on a technicality...

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 24, 2016 03:11 PM (oGRue)

395 "Huh, I thought the Playboy Mansion was in Chicago. I must be behind the times on Playboy stuff."

Forty years-ago it was.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 24, 2016 02:56 PM (LA7Cm)
============================================

I had my first honeymoon at the Playboy Club. Lake Geneva. Now it's called the Grand Geneva. Soon-to-Be-Mister and I have a block of rooms set aside for our wedding guests this summer. Life is odd.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 24, 2016 03:11 PM (dFi94)

396 If you're at a restaurant and you don't like the entree you ordered - you find it bland and not seasoned to the extent you expected - what do you say to the waiter when he asks if you like it?

Do you take the option of getting something else?

Posted by: jwest

The correct answer is "Good, good, thank you."

And then get all bitchy on your insta-tumblr-app.

... Hodor.

Posted by: Hodor at May 24, 2016 03:12 PM (p2X2f)

397 391
Here,, all you ladies have a pint of gin and pass out already.. I'll take good care of you...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 24, 2016 03:10 PM (HSmrB)
***
Hey! That's my pick-up line...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 24, 2016 03:12 PM (lutOX)

398 354 "Equally important, I would not allow myself to be in a position to have that happen to me."

Sure. You'd refuse to meet with a potentially huge connection in your industry?

I've gone up to hotel rooms with my customers. If they drugged and raped me, you'd blame me?
Posted by: Sexypig at May 24, 2016 02:56 PM (UBBWX)

I don't disagree, based on your recharacterization... but that's not what I wrote.

Someone's agent says, "Hey, Bill Cosby wants to have dinner with you". No, you didn't consent to sex but he's not a customer either. You have no professional relationship. Sure, you might consent because you are trying to get into show is and make a connection or you might just want to have dinner with a celebrity.

At dinner, Bill says, "Hey, want to go back to my room?" Sure, maybe he wants to show you a script that could be a good fit. Or maybe he wants to see if his penis is a good fit. 50/50. You assume the former and go to his room.

Bill says, "Hey, I've got some drugs here. Want some?" You y yes and take the drugs. Bill is not blameless, since he supplied the drugs, but you willingly took mind altering substances that may or may not lower your inhibitions and result in your participation in things that you might regret later. 50/50.

Bill says, why don't you get more comfortable, take your clothes off while he is also getting naked. This is no longer a business meeting. Unless he's paying you for sex, he is no longer a customer. You take your clothes off and make no attempt to leave, say no, or reframe limits on the evening.

In my mind, a person in this situation was not raped. It doesn't make Bill Cosby not a scumbag but it also does not make him a rapist.

I'm not defending Bill and I don't know exactly what happened between him and these women. I am equally tired of "rape" being redefined as "I did something that I later regretted... so I'm a victim" as I am of celebrities getting away with crimes.

Posted by: Damiano at May 24, 2016 03:12 PM (71OEY)

399 380 it's almost like there's some reason that Miley Cyrus went from sweet little Hannah Montana to Bad Girl Skank...
-------------
Arrogant narcissism and cold hard cash?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 24, 2016 03:04 PM (Nwg0u)
----------------------
Not to mention drugs.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 24, 2016 03:12 PM (T/5A0)

400 >>-what do you say to the waiter when he asks if you like it?

"No. It's quite bland and frankly, disappointing."

>>-Do you take the option of getting something else?

Never.
I don't go back, either.

Posted by: garrett at May 24, 2016 03:13 PM (aoFFB)

401 Insty has a link about the following:

CLINTON FOUNDATION GOT $100 MILLION FROM "BLOOD MINERALS" FIRM: Then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton unaccountably delayed implementation in 2009 of a congressionally mandated certification process designed to bar human rights abuses by mining companies in Africa.

That's one big quid pro quo right there.

It looks like this donation was run through the Foundation's Canadian affiliate, the "Clinton Giustra Sustainable Growth Initiative." Last I heard 1,000 unnamed donors were run through this affiliate.

Developing ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 24, 2016 03:13 PM (r1fLd)

402 I see that Obama has lifted the arms embargo on Vietnam. He has never seen a Communist or Islamic he didn't want to arm - or an American he didn't want to disarm.

Where was that part of the Constitution about "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" - was that before or after the "good and plenty" clause?

Amazing how liberal justices can find clauses in the Constitution allowing abortion and men in women's locker rooms, but are unable to see things like "treason" and the "right to keep and bear arms" which are clearly and unambiguously spelled out in the text.

Posted by: An Observation at May 24, 2016 03:13 PM (vt55G)

403 Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 24, 2016 03:10 PM (lKyWE)

Out of all the stories I've heard about Hef and his parties, I don't recall ever hearing that date rape drugs were common there. Feel free to correct me.

Posted by: AD at May 24, 2016 03:14 PM (gcKVd)

404 380 it's almost like there's some reason that Miley Cyrus went from sweet little Hannah Montana to Bad Girl Skank...
-------------
Arrogant narcissism and cold hard cash?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 24, 2016 03:04 PM (Nwg0u)
----------------------
Not to mention drugs.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 24, 2016 03:12 PM (T/5A0)

and an unprotective family who pimped her out to support them

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 03:14 PM (zOTsN)

405 ThunderB ...

... Where have you been all this time ? I really could have used some of this shit - you know - a couple decades ago.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 03:15 PM (tbq1U)

406 it's almost like there's some reason that Miley Cyrus went from sweet little Hannah Montana to Bad Girl Skank...

-
Arrogant narcissism and cold hard cash?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 24, 2016 03:04 PM (Nwg0u)

The correlation between sexual abuse as children, and the behaviors we find reprehensible in adults is way too strong for comfort.

It's easier to label people with personality defects, rather than trace the origins of their behavior to a time when they were innocent, helpless, defenseless.

Nonetheless, it is there.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 24, 2016 03:15 PM (Dj0WE)

407 New one, dum-dums!

... Hodor.

Posted by: Hodor at May 24, 2016 03:15 PM (p2X2f)

408 Do you take the option of getting something else?

Posted by: jwest at May 24, 2016 03:08 PM (Zs4uk)
____________________________________

Be honest that it's not what you expected it would be. If it's not prepared correctly ask if you have the option to reorder it.
If it's just not to your liking, then that is something else. I've had meals that while done properly, I just didn't like, and said so. Sometimes, but not very often, they were replaced at no charge, sometimes at a reduced price.
Expect to pay for both though.

Posted by: IP at May 24, 2016 03:15 PM (aQQbl)

409 If you're at a restaurant and you don't like the entree you ordered - you find it bland and not seasoned to the extent
you expected - what do you say to the waiter when he asks if you like
it?

Do you take the option of getting something else?

Posted by: jwest at May 24, 2016 03:08 PM (Zs4uk)
if i took the option of getting something else, i'd be afraid they spit in it.....i'd rather they comp the choice....i'd still tip the waiter as if it was still included in the bill

Posted by: chauncy gardner at May 24, 2016 03:16 PM (0O7c5)

410 Hickey-burr!

Posted by: Cos at May 24, 2016 03:16 PM (uPB8L)

411 Nood.

Posted by: HH at May 24, 2016 03:16 PM (DrCtv)

412 Shit, if they gave 'implied consent' just by showing up then Cosby could have just dragged them to a room and raped them from the get go. Save some money on the drugs.

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 03:17 PM (KnOIi)

413 ThunderB ...

... Where have you been all this time ? I really could have used some of this shit - you know - a couple decades ago.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 03:15 PM (tbq1U)

Ha!

couple of decades ago I was the trouble you were looking for

Posted by: ThunderB at May 24, 2016 03:17 PM (zOTsN)

414 If you're at a restaurant and you don't like the entre you ordered - you find it bland and not seasoned to the extent you expected - what do you say to the waiter when he asks if you like it?

Do you take the option of getting something else?

Posted by: jwest at May 24, 2016 03:08 PM (Zs4uk)

I think it depends on how badly the meal was butchered (so to speak), and how expensive it was. If I"m at a nice steakhouse and they give me a well-done filet when I explicitly requested medium rare, Yeah, I'll tell them to take it back and make it right. If I'm at Fridays and the chicken dinner is under-seasoned, I'll mention it, but not take a new item.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 24, 2016 03:17 PM (KUaJL)

415 It appears that Harry Reid threw down the gauntlet with Hillary and forbade her from picking a Senator as running mate from a State with a Republican Governor.

I love his presumption: she's going to win, so that means the governor gets to pick the replacement of this Senator. Clearly she's going to win, so choosing a Senator means we lose one from congress!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 03:18 PM (39g3+)

416 395----I had my first honeymoon at the Playboy Club. Lake Geneva.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 24, 2016 03:11 PM
-----------------------
This seems like a mistake to me.
Okay, not as big a mistake as going to Philadelphia, but still.....

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 24, 2016 03:18 PM (T/5A0)

417 You're friggin' jwest, for cryin' out loud.

Correct Answer is Buy Restaurant, Fire Everyone !!!

It's like I don't even know you anymore.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 03:18 PM (tbq1U)

418
Out of all the stories I've heard about Hef and his parties, I don't recall ever hearing that date rape drugs were common there. Feel free to correct me.

I have no idea never attended a party there, just witnessed the wreckage of several.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 24, 2016 03:19 PM (lKyWE)

419 "I have never been to a strip club, but are they infamous round the world for being a place of orgies, constant sexual activity, drugs, and alcohol thrown by the founder of the sexual revolution?

I suspect not, somehow.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 02:46 PM (39g3+) "

They're infamous for employing a lot of women who also moonlight as prostitutes, so why shouldn't a customer expect to get laid? And yes, they are absolutely known for being places of constant drug and alcohol use. You don't think most of those strippers are really 'putting themselves through college,' do you? Contra the 'grrl power' meme, a large majority of girls in the sex trade (including porn stars) aren't doing it for 'female sexual empowerment,' but for easy money to feed their drug habits.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 24, 2016 03:19 PM (kumBu)

420 I have no idea never attended a party there, just witnessed the wreckage of several.

That's kind of important here, ain't it?

Posted by: AD at May 24, 2016 03:20 PM (gcKVd)

421 "It's like I don't even know you anymore.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 03:18 PM (tbq1U) "

Hah! Of course. And if the steak was bland, obviously it wasn't a Trump Steak, which are always properly seasoned with only the classiest spices.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 24, 2016 03:21 PM (kumBu)

422
Less problematic, true. But for a business meeting; a woman going into a guy's hotel room? Danger. A guy going into a woman's hotel room? Danger. Either way, you're just asking for trouble.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 03:04 PM (39g3+)

Exactly. Many years ago, I worked for a law firm and we were on a document production in Philly. One of the paralegals was seen by more than a few coworkers going into the hotel room of the attorney she worked - and it happened more than once. They were both married to other people.

Later on, she was indignant that rumors were flying around the firm that she was having an affair with the lawyer. Those visits were all about work, she insisted.

Maybe they were, maybe they weren't. (She had a tendency to dress in a slightly provocative manner - short skirts and low-cut blouses - nothing really outrageous but noticeable in a firm where most people dressed pretty conservatively and that just added fuel to the fire.) The thing is that it is unwise to put yourself in a situation where at, the very least speculation like that will happen and at the worst, where the attorney could have assumed she was game for a little sport f*ing, because she was in his hotel room at night.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 24, 2016 03:22 PM (u0lmX)

423 Correct Answer is Buy Restaurant, Fire Everyone !!!

It's like I don't even know you anymore.
Posted by: ScoggDog

That there is some inside joking done well.

... hodor.

Posted by: Hodor at May 24, 2016 03:22 PM (p2X2f)

424 And at Trump Steakhouse, owned and operated by jwest, the luxurious surroundings guarantee a first rate dining experience.

Simply the best. You'll love it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 03:23 PM (tbq1U)

425 "Bill says, "Hey, I've got some drugs here. Want some?" You y yes and take the drugs. Bill is not blameless, since he supplied the drugs, but you willingly took mind altering substances that may or may not lower your inhibitions and result in your participation in things that you might regret later. 50/50."

Bill does not tell you that these drugs will immobilize you. Make you unconscious and that he's going to have sex with you will you are comatose.

People are conflating consensual with non-consensual.

Most of these women were young and naive. I doubt they had a clue Cosby was a rapist. Why would they know. They probably, along with their parents, figured they were in a safe place with a known person not some creepy old stranger.

Their gullibility helped Cosby. Also being the biggest star on NBC at the time would tell them that the money interests would crush them if they came forward. Just like all of Bill Clintons victims are afraid of the monied interests coming after them.

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 03:25 PM (KnOIi)

426 424 And at Trump Steakhouse, owned and operated by jwest, the luxurious surroundings guarantee a first rate dining experience.

Simply the best. You'll love it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 24, 2016 03:23 PM (tbq1U)

At least someone has the right answer.

Posted by: jwest at May 24, 2016 03:25 PM (Zs4uk)

427 Ken Starr is fired for being a rape enabler and super predator rape enabler Hillary is the presumptive democrat nominee. sounds about right.

Posted by: x at May 24, 2016 03:27 PM (nFwvY)

428
That's kind of important here, ain't it?

The parties were known for heavy cocaine and alcohol consumption and I say evidence to support that

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 24, 2016 03:28 PM (lKyWE)

429 "Danger. Either way, you're just asking for trouble.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2016 03:04 PM (39g3+) "

I don't think we're treading any new ground here. Person A says 'you should be more careful, don't dress like that and walk alone in a bad part of town,' Person B says 'you're blaming the victim!'

Usually I side with Person A, but your implied consent vibe has shifted me into the middle. If you leave your house unlocked you're foolish, but that still doesn't give 'implied consent' for anybody to enter. And certainly not for people to enter and then rob you. The person who robs you is still a burglar, even if you were easy pickings.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 24, 2016 03:29 PM (kumBu)

430 Another case of the Black guy getting prosecuted while the White guy slips on by.

Posted by: Kalifornia Kafir at May 24, 2016 03:33 PM (pM95H)

431 The parties were known for heavy cocaine and alcohol consumption and I say evidence to support that

Absolutely. I still say, while you shouldn't go to parties with lots of coke, it's reasonable to go to a party like that without expecting to get raped. A lot of women did that.

Posted by: AD at May 24, 2016 03:33 PM (gcKVd)

432
A lot of women did that.

True,but having grown up in Hollywood i tend not to cut wannabe starlets the slack that most do.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 24, 2016 03:37 PM (lKyWE)

433 The person who robs you is still a burglar, even if you were easy pickings.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 24, 2016 03:29 PM (kumBu)

Oh, certainly. And that person should be held accountable and punished. However, I think the person who foolishly left all the doors unlocked, or puts her purse on the park bench and goes for a walk, expecting to find it untouched when she gets back should still be told, "You behaved like a stupid, na�ve idiot."

If there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that trouble will find you soon enough, without you giving trouble extra help.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 24, 2016 03:39 PM (u0lmX)

434 Don't tell me, Stupid Shit, you used to be a regular at Hot Air?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 24, 2016 03:55 PM (PLnZs)

435 "If there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that trouble will find you soon enough, without you giving trouble extra help."

True. But a lot of these women were not at the mansion. They were young, naive models not even in Hollywood. He was pulling this crap all over the country.

A huge name like Cosby was referred to them by their legit modeling agency.

When they are given drugs that immobilize them and make them unconscious it's rape.

Does coke make you immobilized? He gave them specific drugs to make them victims.

The young don't have it within their heads that it is possible that famous people can be evil. They figure that they must be vetted in some way. That's why they are easy pickin's to the evil.

Think how many parents were fine with Cosby 'mentoring' their children. I'm sure not all of them were stage parents.

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 03:55 PM (KnOIi)

436 "Don't tell me, Stupid Shit, you used to be a regular at Hot Air?"

Nope. Why do you ask?

Posted by: Stupid Shit at May 24, 2016 03:57 PM (KnOIi)

437 So what do all of you think went on at the Playboy Mansion? And what do you think it was created for if Christopher is wrong?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 24, 2016 03:59 PM (PLnZs)

438 9 So...the difference is Cosby used drugs, while Clinton used political power and state troopers?

Clinton also used his teeth.

Posted by: Gail Hapke at May 24, 2016 09:35 PM (CQT1j)

439 Bill Cosby is innocent.

He wasn't charged in 2005 because Constand could've faced charges for attempted extortion and illegal wiretaps. She wanted money from Cosby and she secretly recorded conversations between her and Cosby to get him to admit wrongdoing.

She sold her story to the National Enquirer, Cosby got wind of it, and to prevent them from exposing her, she sued them and Cosby. They all settled and were signatories to the settlement in 2006.

The other "Jane Does" weren't bound by the agreement, so they pumped the details of the case to their attorneys, including Gloria Allred. They tracked down women who dealt with Cosby and had them read press statements where they surmise they were slipped drugs, carefully avoiding directly making the accusation and instead saying something like "I believe I was drugged and raped".

This won't go to trial. The deposition won't be admissible and none of these women will be allowed to testify. The DA will have no choice but to drop the charges.

Posted by: fatso at May 26, 2016 06:34 PM (KZbRH)

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