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Good night horde
Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2016 08:24 PM (Dpy/y) 2
I'm sure the mohammedan population of Britain will go right along with this goofy bullshit. No problems there.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:26 PM (7qAYi) 3
They want to implode? Posted by: iforgot at April 20, 2016 08:26 PM (5o5ek) 4
There is no shortage of videos of BLMs threatening people, pounding on cars, grabbing people by the throat, and screaming with an inch of someone's face who is just trying to get home. That is the bastards M.O. Screw them and their bullshite racism. It's crap.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 08:27 PM (iQIUe) Posted by: Zombie Sidney Harman at April 20, 2016 08:28 PM (rwI+c) 6
Ah, yes. The Selecting of the Gender. An important day in any toddler's life.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 20, 2016 08:28 PM (8ZskC) 7
I'm still cracking up over 'shart'!
Posted by: Joe Biden at April 20, 2016 08:29 PM (FXW24) 8
Nah.... a large hostile group of Afro-Semicivil affirmative action darlings couldn't possibly be scary or threatening.
I mean, what are they going to do.... steal your calculus book? Posted by: Anchovy at April 20, 2016 08:29 PM (D0WQD) 9
Did the university admins go along with this bullshite? It seems that at they speed they shitecanned carrot top, they were upset about the nonsense. Then again, maybe they got word that the donations had precipitously dropped as had enrollment.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 08:30 PM (iQIUe) 10
I didn't even know I owned a dick until I was 16.
Posted by: navybrat at April 20, 2016 08:30 PM (8QGte) 11
The University of Missouri needs to go out of business.
And Black Lives Matter is a terrorist group. Full stop. I expect to see 1968-style violence at both conventions this year. Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2016 08:30 PM (sdi6R) 12
Britain is doomed.
Someday the backlash from SJW will happen, but not for awhile. Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2016 08:31 PM (Dpy/y) 13
I have Boston Herald app & breaking news is Curt Schilling has been fired from ESPN for FB post about men's & ladies' rooms.
Transgendered are outraged! Posted by: Carol at April 20, 2016 08:31 PM (sj3Ax) 14
So, is aoshq going to offer free tampons to members?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 08:32 PM (iQIUe) 15
I'm a woman. I had no idea period shaming existed.
Unless by period shaming they mean trying to avoid staining your clothes and keeping your trap shut in polite company about bodily functions that involve bodily fluids, like all decent humans. Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 20, 2016 08:32 PM (nIGPZ) 16
" Pick their gender"
Gee, maybe Britain and much of the rest of Europe shouldn't have for all intents and purposes dumped Orthodox Christianity and instead gone with the progressive "church" of how you feel. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 08:32 PM (w4NZ8) 17
Period shaming? Bwahahaha! This insanity is going to get alot of people seriously injured or worse.
Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2016 08:32 PM (+E2Y7) Posted by: Sir Mansfield at April 20, 2016 08:33 PM (CUk0C) 19
I drink lots of milk because it has lotsa calculus to make my bones big and strong.
Posted by: SJW Graduate student at April 20, 2016 08:33 PM (89T5c) Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 08:33 PM (A5Xf+) 21
13 I have Boston Herald app & breaking news is Curt Schilling has been fired from ESPN for FB post about men's & ladies' rooms.
Transgendered are outraged! Posted by: Carol at April 20, 2016 08:31 PM (sj3Ax) It is remarkable that an issue that didn't even exist a year ago is now the bright dividing line between good & evil. Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:33 PM (7qAYi) 22
I have Boston Herald app & breaking news is Curt Schilling has been fired from ESPN for FB post about men's & ladies' rooms.
Transgendered are outraged! Posted by: Carol at April 20, 2016 08:31 PM (sj3Ax) I'll bet the primitive bastard didn't clap very hard for Caitlyn Jenner either. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 20, 2016 08:34 PM (8ZskC) 23
Gee, maybe Britain and much of the rest of Europe shouldn't have for all intents and purposes dumped Orthodox Christianity and instead gone with the progressive "church" of how you feel.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 08:32 PM (w4NZ Which led to a flat-lining population, which has led to the islamic wave crashing upon them. Funny how that works. Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:35 PM (7qAYi) 24
I don't feel sorry for the students being intimidated, any more than the gropees in Europe deserve our sympathy. These assholes are getting what they deserve, and in their masochistic delusionality, they are getting what they want . They won't wake up, so thankfully, they will be naturally selected out. The gene pool bids you good riddance.
Posted by: angela urkel at April 20, 2016 08:35 PM (Irpgk) 25
I think I prefer rape Tuesday
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 08:35 PM (3goOg) Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 20, 2016 08:35 PM (8ZskC) Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2016 08:36 PM (kTF2Z) 28
That's the difference between the left and right.
The left fights with all their might utilizing any and all tools, employing any and all methods to obtain their objective. Setbacks are never accepted, no is never the answer. Push forward, muscle through, sometimes they move forward an inch, sometimes they will strategically pull back a foot only so they can get better footing so they can move forward a yard. Press on, move forward, Win!! The right? They fold at first contact with the enemy, wouldn't want to offend the moderates, independents, unmarried single women or Latinos. There is a lesson to be learned here. Posted by: Kreplach at April 20, 2016 08:36 PM (WVvzl) 29
My neighbor's 3 y/o daughter is enamored with the Cowardly Lion. For months now, all she does is growl. Rarely talks. Some head butting, too. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 08:36 PM (iQIUe) 30
I think those transgendered people are looking for attention.
If you have a dick-men's room Vagina-ladies room. I'm going to go look for ? To make for dinner, or order something. Posted by: Carol at April 20, 2016 08:37 PM (sj3Ax) 31
Nah.... a large hostile group of Afro-Semicivil affirmative action darlings couldn't possibly be scary or threatening.
I mean, what are they going to do.... steal your calculus book? Posted by: Anchovy No, just insist that it be re-written to include all f(x)'s. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 20, 2016 08:37 PM (OcD4G) 32
Little known fact: it was Period shaming by art critics that led to his embracing Cubism.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:37 PM (7qAYi) 33
I've read that the Holocene is over and that we've entered the Homoscene Epoch...
Posted by: Zettai "Homo erectus" Ryoiki at April 20, 2016 08:37 PM (kP16F) 34
keeping your trap shut in polite company about bodily functions that involve bodily fluids, like all decent humans.
Posted by: chique d'afrique Yep. I'm a dude and we have various things going on from time to time, and I never bring it up out of the blue. I certainly don't expect taxpayer's to pay for my anti-acid or Imodium. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 08:38 PM (A5Xf+) 35
Picasso, that is.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:38 PM (7qAYi) 36
There is no shortage of videos of BLMs threatening people, pounding on cars, grabbing people by the throat, and screaming with an inch of someone's face who is just trying to get home.
NRA convention is in Louisville this year. In a few weeks. I really would like them to try it there. I won't be packing on the way in. Friday. Hope to see 'em then. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 08:39 PM (fiGNd) 37
I think a couple thousand parents storming the university president's office with just one point to make would end it all.
Yo Prez...whatever happens to my son/daughter happens to yours. Now get a grip on your school. Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2016 08:39 PM (08Znv) Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 08:39 PM (iQIUe) 39
What if you just write in "none"?
Posted by: freaked at April 20, 2016 08:40 PM (BO/km) 40
I will ask the SJWs which they would choose to be bitch-slapped with, the right or the left. But I got elbows, knees, feet and a skull too. I'm not binary or exclusionary. I'm pretty open-minded, that way.
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 08:40 PM (dBmVV) 41
No guy expects the government to pay for his subscription to Brazzers & Kleenex.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:41 PM (7qAYi) 42
Finally, according to Newsweek (though this link is to Hot Air), the movement to end "period shaming" is going "mainstream."
eek, the picture at the hotair link Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 20, 2016 08:41 PM (qCMvj) Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 08:41 PM (A5Xf+) 44
In England, the city of Brighton and Hove is making history in terms of political correctness. Parents of children preparing to enter the school system received a letter informing them that they needed to be cautious when filling out their child's registration forms and not rush into anything complicated like identifying whether they were boys or girls. You see, that's a really complicated question these days and you need to help your children "pick" which gender they want to be.
Isn't picking a "gender" deciding whether you think you are masculine or feminine, not male or female. This also applies to bathrooms - the left is purposely obfuscating the differences between "masculine" and "men" and "feminine" and "woman". We don't have "masculine rooms" but "men's rooms". An effeminate male doofus is still an actual male. When they are letting these kids pick their "gender" they are really letting the guys choose if they wish to be known as "feminine" and the girls as "masculine", though they are still, obviously, boys and girls, respectively. P.S. It's a real pain in the ass when the posts have illegal characters in them. I mean ... FFS. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 08:41 PM (zc3Db) 45
When did sports become so .... ghey? It's like a freakin' obsession with them. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 08:41 PM (iQIUe) 46
in an attempt to blend in im removing all periods from my musings i think itll go along way if i get rid of commas exclamation points apostophes an other forms of punctuation while im at it im canning capitalization too i mean why should some letters get to be big and the others small its confusing to me i hope this makes a true demonstration showing how much i care and making everybody equal letters are people too for the children Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2016 08:42 PM (JmjOe) 47
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When did sports become so .... ghey? It's like a freakin' obsession with them. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 08:41 PM (iQIUe) ESPN is owned by Disney, which is a huge driving force in the swishification of our culture. Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:43 PM (7qAYi) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 20, 2016 08:43 PM (Nwg0u) Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2016 08:43 PM (JmjOe) 50
Making them pay for their own shit is "period shaming"?
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 08:43 PM (B48dK) 51
Let's see...it's Wednesday night. I have a belly full of delicious honey chipotle chicken, strawberry cake and vodka gimlets. The department VP is in town and I've decided fuck it, I'm not going to be afraid of him any more. Oh and I have a 90 lb giant red furry dog next to me on the couch. It's a good night.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at April 20, 2016 08:44 PM (+eR2D) 52
Despite my name I'm not always on my period.
Posted by: Flo at April 20, 2016 08:44 PM (FXW24) 53
There is hope. Once the Islamists beat the feminists and the homosexuals into submission, Christian heterosexual men will be freed up to fight back against militant Islam.
Posted by: angela urkel at April 20, 2016 08:44 PM (Irpgk) Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at April 20, 2016 08:44 PM (rwI+c) 55
The muslim rape gangs need to know the genders so they can plan accordingly. You dont think all that kid raping just happens without the cooperation of the authorities, do you? Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 08:44 PM (iQIUe) 56
When did sports become so .... ghey? It's like a freakin' obsession with them.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! I could be wrong, but I remember things going off the rails with female reporters being allowed in locker rooms. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 08:44 PM (A5Xf+) 57
OT, but interesting
"Do Jews, Christians and Muslims believe in the same God?" (Guess which one of these groups is nothing like the others?!!) An Article by Dennis Prager. I really like Prager: http://preview.tinyurl.com/hznfyc7 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 08:45 PM (w4NZ8) Posted by: zombieee cummings at April 20, 2016 08:45 PM (BO/km) 59
END FART SHAMING MEN! IT'S OUR BIOLOGICAL FUNCTION! MEN FARTING IS A MOTHER GAIA PROGRAM TO LIMIT REPRODUCTION! FART SHAMING MEN IS CAPITALIST CISNORM HETRO WHITENORM BEANEROPPRESIVE LENTILOPPRESIVE BUTTSEX DENIAL! FREE MEN TO FART!1111!!!!!!!!11!!!11!1!!111! Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MAJOR APPROPRIATION at April 20, 2016 08:45 PM (KId5h) 60
What the ever-lovin' hell is period shaming?
And subjecting very young children to the gender-identity sickness that has overtaken the left is...I just have no words. This world is officially off-its-axis-freaking-insane. Britain today, America tomorrow. Posted by: Lady in Black...Death to the Man Bun at April 20, 2016 08:46 PM (+FSld) Posted by: jsg at April 20, 2016 08:46 PM (EOL1w) 62
Well fuck me
Posted by: the spatchcocked chicken at April 20, 2016 08:47 PM (dULJN) 63
My white female student is being mobbed on her way to class and shouted
at while being pushed claiming she's a racist solely because of the color of her skin. And being berated by those of ethnicities that, who, to be charitable, have all of their intellectual accomplishments ahead of them. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 08:47 PM (oKE6c) 64
39 What if you just write in "none"?
Posted by: freaked at April 20, 2016 08:40 PM (BO/km) Some have suggested that "None of the Above" should be a choice on every ballot, and if it wins, then there would be a do-over of the election and every candidate who was on the ballot would be disqualified. I approve. Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2016 08:47 PM (sdi6R) 65
60 The Euro's were pretty far ahead of us in left wing nuttiness but we caught up rapidly in the last 8 years.
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 08:47 PM (B48dK) 66
The whole world. Nuts.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 20, 2016 08:48 PM (CFc5L) 67
Unless by period shaming they mean trying to avoid staining your clothes and keeping your trap shut in polite company about bodily functions that involve bodily fluids, like all decent humans.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 20, 2016 08:32 PM (nIGPZ) Here's a thought. If the feminazis can't manage to carry a tampon or two in their purses, can they also not manage to wipe their asses in the crapper? Remind me to never shake hands with any woman wearing comfortable shoes. For the love of Pete, ladies, plan ahead. We've only been having our periods since, oh, about the time we were created (or evolved, your choice). Posted by: tcn in AK at April 20, 2016 08:48 PM (+YMhA) Posted by: The Sorting Hat at April 20, 2016 08:48 PM (1xUj/) Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MAJOR APPROPRIATION at April 20, 2016 08:48 PM (KId5h) 70
You'd think these feminist bitches would be happy that the last six rapists they slept with are being naturally aborted.
Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2016 08:48 PM (+E2Y7) 71
I could be wrong, but I remember things going off the rails with female reporters being allowed in locker rooms.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 08:44 PM (A5Xf+) Speaking of which ... why aren't male reporters allowed in the women's locker rooms at tennis tournaments or ice skating? I would like to see locker room interviews with the women, there. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 08:48 PM (zc3Db) 72
>>15 I'm a woman. I had no idea period shaming existed. Unless by period shaming they mean trying to avoid staining your clothes and keeping your trap shut in polite company about bodily functions that involve bodily fluids, like all decent humans.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 20, 2016 08:32 PM (nIGPZ) Yeah, not a thing. Can we stop talking about it? Bah. Posted by: Lea at April 20, 2016 08:49 PM (vmMMi) 73
So ... my freshmen year ... I "slept over" with a chic at her apartment. She "got her visit" in the middle of the night.
Don't gross out guys. Just tell her ... "It's natural. No big deal. All good." Trust me. *Two Great Big Thumbs Up with Shit Eating Grin* Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 08:49 PM (fiGNd) 74
If Obama drops his pants, I may need a ruling.
Posted by: jsg at April 20, 2016 08:46 PM (EOL1w) **** It's like a dick, only much smaller. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 08:49 PM (/dC/I) 75
When all the safety systems fail and a Stupid Reactor goes runaway, run, just run.
Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 08:49 PM (MQEz6) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 20, 2016 08:49 PM (qCMvj) 77
74 Really big clit?
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 08:50 PM (B48dK) 78
When all the safety systems fail and a Stupid Reactor goes runaway, run, just run.
Ya gotta scram. Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at April 20, 2016 08:50 PM (rwI+c) Posted by: Zettai at April 20, 2016 08:50 PM (kP16F) 80
And subjecting very young children to the gender-identity sickness that has overtaken the left is...I just have no words. This world is officially off-its-axis-freaking-insane. Britain today, America tomorrow.
Posted by: Lady in Black Why they have to bring children into promoting everything that this country was NOT built upon, and it actually working... Will be the death of civilazation. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 08:50 PM (A5Xf+) 81
The mosques must be so gleeful. All this SJW cray cray crapola must be great for recruitment.
Posted by: Palerider at April 20, 2016 08:50 PM (dkExz) 82
So... I see they're remaking The Magnificent Seven. Wonder why no one called me about this? I can do some terrific cowboy talk. I was so good at it in the remake of True Grit that I've done it for every character I've played since.
Shame they decided to pass on me. (New Mag 7 Trailer -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deSRpSn8Pyk) Posted by: Jeff Daniels, even talking like Rooster Cogburn as I type this at April 20, 2016 08:51 PM (H9MG5) 83
"Do Jews, Christians and Muslims believe in the same God?" (Guess which one of these groups is nothing like the others?!!) An Article by Dennis Prager. I really like Prager:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hznfyc7 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 08:45 PM (w4NZ The answer is no. Muslims worship Satan. Their "Allah" is incomprehensible, does not display any trait that he conforms to any system of order, tells his followers to kill infidels and rape women, and enslave anyone else. Allah also tells them to lie to those who are disbelievers, and to go on jihads against anyone who might object to them taking over the world. So, Satan. Pure and simple. Posted by: tcn in AK at April 20, 2016 08:51 PM (+YMhA) 84
Why are the core ejectors always offline when you start losing antimatter containment? You would think they would have fixed that by 2425.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at April 20, 2016 08:51 PM (rwI+c) 85
And subjecting very young children to the gender-identity sickness that
has overtaken the left is...I just have no words. This world is officially off-its-axis-freaking-insane A herd that desperately needs culling. You wouldn't grow a hedge without clipping it, would you? Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 08:52 PM (oKE6c) 86
Amy Schumer did a funny bit in Trainwreck about periods. Specifically leave a tampon so engorged it has an ear in it and her new boyfriend sees it
Amy Schumer. Period shamer Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 08:52 PM (zOTsN) 87
Oops. I'm so good at becoming other people, I became a totally different actor.
Posted by: Jeff 88
I am curious as to if anyone heretofore has referred to the new twenty dollar bill as a "black back"?
Posted by: Mghorning at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (uFnYE) 89
I expect to see 1968-style violence at both conventions this year.
Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2016 08:30 PM (sdi6R) ======= Sweeeet. Posted by: Zombie Abbie Hoffman at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (EZebt) 90
Hold my beer, --I don't fear the Hillary! Now Ima gonna jump off this twenty foot building and drag you with me!
Posted by: Radio Killed The Logic at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (mcm0N) 91
I'm really excited about Batman vs Superman though!
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (B48dK) 92
I think a Magnificent Seven set in Africa or the Middle East, with a village of Christians hiring mercenaries to defend them against islamic terrorists would be a great movie.
Odds of it being made are the same as me being Kate Upton's loofah. Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (7qAYi) 93
So... I see they're remaking The Magnificent Seven. Wonder why no one called me about this? I can do some terrific cowboy talk. I was so good at it in the remake of True Grit that I've done it for every character I've played since.
Shame they decided to pass on me. Posted by: Jeff Daniels, even talking like Rooster Cogburn as I type this at April 20, 2016 08:51 PM (H9MG5) Because this time it'll feature seven lesbians, Jeff. Duh. Next up: "Seven Bull Dykes for Seven Femmes." Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (oKE6c) 94
84 Why are the core ejectors always offline when you start losing antimatter containment? You would think they would have fixed that by 2425. Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at April 20, 2016 08:51 PM (rwI+c) No amount of engineering can trump the Bad Writing Effect. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (MQEz6) 95
Speaking of which ... why aren't male reporters allowed in the women's locker rooms at tennis tournaments or ice skating? I would like to see locker room interviews with the women, there.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair Right on. Plus, why aren't females having to sign up for Selective Service upon their 18Th birthday? Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (A5Xf+) 96
I remember in StarShip Troopers the men and women showered together and everyone though it was great except me. Men and women shd never shower together for obvious reasons. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 08:54 PM (iQIUe) 97
96 Women infantry,something Heinlein did not include in his book.
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 08:54 PM (B48dK) 98
91 I'm really excited about Batman vs Superman though! Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (B48dK) First they fight then they make out. Ew. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 08:54 PM (MQEz6) 99
Oops. I'm so good at becoming other people, I became a totally different actor.
Posted by: Jeff That's okay, Jeff Daniels is loser douchebag. And you used to speak like a robot all the time so I guess learning a western accent is a major step forward for you. BTW, you were great in Wild Bill. Excellent movie. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (zc3Db) 100
And subjecting very young children to the gender-identity sickness that has overtaken the left is...I just have no words. This world is officially off-its-axis-freaking-insane. Britain today, America tomorrow.
Posted by: Lady in Black this is child abuse the left are abusing children so much now that I cannot believe the parents are not getting violent about it I don't know if I could handle a small child in school right now. these people are sick the public schools are run by serious psychopaths Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (qCMvj) Posted by: Every married guy ever at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (EZebt) 102
National Review and the new Social Justice Warrior-fighting blog Heatstreet got emails from the University of Missouri during the protests, and they depict mass bullying and threats of violence. From, of course, the people claiming to be oppressed.
Some people need to be oppressed. Criminals, for example. These clowns, for another. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (oKE6c) 103
90 Hold my beer, --I don't fear the Hillary!
I'll take "How Chelsea Clinton Came to Be" for $500, Alex Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (7qAYi) Posted by: freaked at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (BO/km) 105
Although I did enjoy seeing Dina Meyer's tits...
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (B48dK) 106
The story about the Tower of Babel was supposed to be a warning, not a How-to Guide.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 20, 2016 08:56 PM (bv0LL) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 20, 2016 08:56 PM (qCMvj) 108
Right on. Plus, why aren't females having to sign up for Selective Service upon their 18Th birthday?
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (A5Xf+) Hell, why aren't they ever caught picking up a tab? Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 08:56 PM (oKE6c) 109
How about just a man and a woman? What about a man and two women? Hmmm?
Posted by: freaked at April 20, 2016 08:57 PM (BO/km) 110
g'early evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 20, 2016 08:57 PM (x5j6r) 111
103 90 Hold my beer, --I don't fear the Hillary!
I'll take "How Chelsea Clinton Came to Be" for $500, Alex Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (7qAYi) ********** LOL! Oh shit. Posted by: Radio Killed The Logic at April 20, 2016 08:57 PM (mcm0N) 112
105 Although I did enjoy seeing Dina Meyer's tits...
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (B48dK) I don't understand why RiffTrax Live cut away from that scene, yet showed the love scenes in "The Room" Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:58 PM (7qAYi) 113
104 'Men and women shd never shower together for obvious reasons.' Uh, whut? Posted by: freaked at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (BO/km) Never is a power word. Be careful with that thing. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 08:58 PM (MQEz6) 114
I don't know if I could handle a small child in school right now.
these people are sick the public schools are run by serious psychopaths Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (qCMvj) I'm already the "bad" mom for standing up for my boy in elementary school. The teacher keeps saying that he is failing because he forgets to turn in his homework. So, silly me, I ask why the teacher doesn't announce that homework should be turned in once a day or so. I was informed that 10 year old boys are old enough to display the maturity to do so on their own. So, no adults, either teaching or supervising. But hey, the teacher IS working on his Master's degree, so there's that. I'm not at all sure what Master's degree, but he really is working on that. Almost made me want to pat the teacher in the head and say "good boy" or something. *vomit* Posted by: tcn in AK at April 20, 2016 08:58 PM (+YMhA) 115
101 Period-shaming? Are you kidding me?
Check your period privilege ladies! Posted by: Every married guy ever at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (EZebt) Upshot: no woman can ever invoke having her period as an excuse ... for anything whatsoever. Works for me. Take the couches out of the womyn's rest rooms. Stat. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 08:58 PM (oKE6c) 116
Women infantry,something Heinlein did not include in his book.
But a paragraph about the needs for genetic mutation, including something about the male armadillo's appreciation for the female, curiously enough was. And it was pretty funny. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 08:58 PM (fiGNd) 117
4 'Men and women shd never shower together for obvious reasons.'
Uh, whut? Posted by: freaked Right. Consenting adults in a private situation is fine. Damn fine. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 08:59 PM (A5Xf+) 118
113
104 'Men and women shd never shower together for obvious reasons.' Uh, whut? Posted by: freaked at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (BO/km) Never is a power word. Be careful with that thing. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 08:58 PM (MQEz6) Think, man, think. Two words: Rosie O'Donnell. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 08:59 PM (oKE6c) 119
Works for me. Take the couches out of the womyn's rest rooms. Stat.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 08:58 PM (oKE6c) Okay, so now tell me how you know about those? Posted by: tcn in AK at April 20, 2016 09:00 PM (+YMhA) 120
"Never is a power word. Be careful with that thing."
I've showered with a woman. Now, of course, we were doing it and stuff, so. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:00 PM (/IUtp) 121
The whole world. Nuts.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 20, 2016 08:48 PM (CFc5L) You can find a respite from that world in my pants. Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 20, 2016 09:00 PM (Irpgk) 122
104 'Men and women shd never shower together for obvious reasons.'
Uh, whut? Posted by: freaked at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (BO/km) Oh I dunno...wall to wall boners for one. Posted by: Insomniac at April 20, 2016 09:00 PM (0mRoj) 123
I recall reading somewhere that the trans men who think they're women (like Caitlyn!!) can get quite pissy if you tell them they can't have periods.
They have periods damnit. And don't you try and tell xem otherwise. Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:01 PM (dBmVV) 124
The University of Missouri needs to go out of business.
Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2016 08:30 PM (sdi6R) They are well on their way... they would be even further along that path if the Missouri legislature got off their asses and defunded them. Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 09:01 PM (nUJM6) 125
>>>The whole world. Nuts.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 20, 2016 08:48 PM (CFc5L)<<< See! SEE!!! The Patriarchy is manspreading all over!!!!!eleventy!!! Posted by: feminazis at April 20, 2016 09:01 PM (H9MG5) 126
When is society going to do something about shart-shaming? Sharting at dinner, during a first date, and being entitled to a second date regardless, is a human right.
Posted by: Splunge at April 20, 2016 09:02 PM (iMxBJ) 127
119 Works for me. Take the couches out of the womyn's rest rooms. Stat.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 08:58 PM (oKE6c) Okay, so now tell me how you know about those? Posted by: tcn in AK at April 20, 2016 09:00 PM (+YMhA) Everyone knows about that. Guys in grad school used to nap in the women's can during overnight experiments. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:02 PM (oKE6c) 128
Upshot: no woman can ever invoke having her period as an excuse ... for anything whatsoever.
Hey !!! I can think of one thing that puts a damper on. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 09:02 PM (fiGNd) 129
119 Works for me. Take the couches out of the womyn's rest rooms. Stat. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 08:58 PM (oKE6c) Okay, so now tell me how you know about those? Posted by: tcn in AK at April 20, 2016 09:00 PM (+YMhA) Trannies. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 09:02 PM (MQEz6) 130
They now sell tampons infused with red dye so psychos can pretend they have periods, I shite you not. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:02 PM (iQIUe) 131
I recall reading somewhere that the trans men who think they're women
(like Caitlyn!!) can get quite pissy if you tell them they can't have periods. We could always help them to bleed. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:03 PM (oKE6c) 132
123 I recall reading somewhere that the trans men who think they're women (like Caitlyn!!) can get quite pissy if you tell them they can't have periods.
They have periods damnit. And don't you try and tell xem otherwise. Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:01 PM (dBmVV) They also get to have abortions! Yeah! Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 09:03 PM (7qAYi) 133
They now sell tampons infused with red dye so psychos can pretend they have periods, I shite you not.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:02 PM (iQIUe) Oh, c'mon. Srsly? Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:03 PM (oKE6c) 134
They now sell tampons infused with red dye so psychos can pretend they have periods, I shite you not.
-- That's it. I WANT OFF THE PLANET. Posted by: Lady in Black...Death to the Man Bun at April 20, 2016 09:03 PM (+FSld) 135
130
They now sell tampons infused with red dye so psychos can pretend they have periods, I shite you not. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:02 PM (iQIUe) That is some fucked up shit. This world just isn't worth saving. Deliver us, oh mighty SMOD. Posted by: Insomniac at April 20, 2016 09:03 PM (0mRoj) 136
"Take the couches out of the womyn's rest rooms."
What do you use the for? Hit the head, hang out with the gfs.......in the bathroom? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:04 PM (/IUtp) 137
The couches are for ladies who need a place to nurse. Now, you can take the couches. But prepare yourself
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:04 PM (zOTsN) 138
They now sell tampons infused with red dye so psychos can pretend they have periods, I shite you not.
You've got to be making that up. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 09:04 PM (fiGNd) Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:04 PM (dBmVV) 140
Even if Caitlyn really were a woman he/she couldn't have a period. as Bruce Caitlyn is in his/her 60s.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:04 PM (w4NZ8) 141
136 "Take the couches out of the womyn's rest rooms."
What do you use the for? Hit the head, hang out with the gfs.......in the bathroom? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:04 PM (/IUtp) Lesbian encounters. Posted by: Insomniac at April 20, 2016 09:04 PM (0mRoj) 142
130 They now sell tampons infused with red dye so psychos can pretend they have periods, I shite you not.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:02 PM (iQIUe) Are they clip-ons, or are they for pierced ears? Posted by: Melissa Harris-Perry at April 20, 2016 09:05 PM (iMxBJ) 143
You've got to be making that up.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 09:04 PM (fiGNd) ========== Nope. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:05 PM (iQIUe) 144
Sounds like toxic shock syndrome needs to revisit
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:05 PM (voOPb) 145
Ladies, crabby, crampy and bloated is no way to go thru life.
Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2016 09:05 PM (+E2Y7) 146
Even if Caitlyn really were a woman he/she couldn't have a period. as Bruce Caitlyn is in his/her 60s.
Bruce is gonna put the men back in menopause. Posted by: freaked at April 20, 2016 09:05 PM (BO/km) 147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c Stan wants to be Loretta
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 20, 2016 09:05 PM (0O7c5) 148
I think a Magnificent Seven set in Africa or the Middle East, with a
village of Christians hiring mercenaries to defend them against islamic terrorists would be a great movie. Odds of it being made are the same as me being Kate Upton's loofah. *** *beer all over the monitor* Posted by: Infidel at April 20, 2016 09:05 PM (ssRa4) 149
"Funda mental Trans formation"
Posted by: Mortimer at April 20, 2016 09:06 PM (DWWqD) Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:06 PM (iQIUe) 151
Hell, why aren't they ever caught picking up a tab?
Posted by: Jay Guevara Not to mention never putting the toilet seat back up!!! Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:06 PM (A5Xf+) 152
137 The couches are for ladies who need a place to nurse. Now, you can take the couches. But prepare yourself
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:04 PM (zOTsN) Then what were they doing in the labs? No moms there. Not ever. Hell, I'd have had recourse to them myself, except during my overnight experiments I had to take data points every 20 minutes or so, so no napping was possible. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:06 PM (oKE6c) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (w4NZ8) 154
Christian bakers forced to bake 'Happy Fauxbortion Cakes' in 3....2....1...
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (dBmVV) 155
Nordstroms had the nicest lounge to nurse. Comfy chair. Quiet. Discreet.
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (zOTsN) Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (fiGNd) 157
63 My white female student is being mobbed on her way to class and shouted
at while being pushed claiming she's a racist solely because of the color of her skin. And being berated by those of ethnicities that, who, to be charitable, have all of their intellectual accomplishments ahead of them. Posted by: Jay Guevara She should have stuck to the safe zones? Posted by: Presumptive Republican Nominee Trump at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (QdAXQ) 158
140 Even if Caitlyn really were a woman he/she couldn't have a period. as Bruce Caitlyn is in his/her 60s.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:04 PM (w4NZ Didn't Mrs. Abraham pop out a baby at age 99? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (voOPb) 159
130
They now sell tampons infused with red dye so psychos can pretend they have periods, I shite you not. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:02 PM (iQIUe) I can't think of any other delusion that demands society accommodate & indeed celebrate it. A decent society would pity these people, not encourage them. Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (7qAYi) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (/IUtp) 161
off winner sock.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (QdAXQ) 162
My almost four year old can't get pronouns straight, let alone figure out gender. He says embarrassing things such as "daddy likes her big penis!"
Posted by: wooga at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (t8HvM) 163
God's patience has to be wearing thin.HAS to be.
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (B48dK) 164
I'm done with period shaming! It's exclamation points from here on out! Seriously though, this is not a real thing. I've never been nor do I know any women ashamed of menstruation. Pissed off at it, sure. I'd actually like to shove a bunch of tampons in these idiots mouths.
Posted by: no good deed at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (GgxVX) 165
No women in the labs? Not even staff?
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (zOTsN) 166
What do you call Ace and Al Roker orbiting the earth in the International Space Station?
Starship Poopers. Posted by: Sir Mansfield at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (CUk0C) 167
160 "The couches are for ladies who need a place to nurse. "
Never knew that. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (/IUtp) That's good, because it's bullshit. It's for women/girls who are having cramps and such, I have been reliably informed. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (oKE6c) 168
I recall reading somewhere that the trans men who
think they're women (like Caitlyn!!) can get quite pissy if you tell them they can't have periods. They have periods damnit. And don't you try and tell xem otherwise. Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:01 PM (dBmVV) Stan: I want to have babies. Reg: You want to have babies!?!? Stan: It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them! Reg: But... you can't HAVE babies! Stan: Don't you oppress me! Reg: I'm not oppressing you Stan. You haven't got a womb! Where's the fetus going to gestate? You gonna keep it in a box? Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (nUJM6) 169
159 I can't think of any other delusion that demands society accommodate & indeed celebrate it. A decent society would pity these people, not encourage them.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (7qAYi) *Ahem* Posted by: Progressivism at April 20, 2016 09:09 PM (iMxBJ) Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 09:09 PM (B48dK) 171
Oh, noessss! It is a joke. However, if you read comments, there are people waiting for something like this to be marketed. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:09 PM (iQIUe) 172
103 90 Hold my beer, --I don't fear the Hillary!
I'll take "How Chelsea Clinton Came to Be" for $500, Alex Posted by: Josephistan Webb, is that you? Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:09 PM (A5Xf+) 173
trannies are going to start carrying around doll babies, pretending to nurse them. aren't they
don't tell me they won't Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:09 PM (dBmVV) Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:10 PM (iQIUe) 175
Bruce ... you're a dick.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 09:10 PM (fiGNd) 176
165 No women in the labs? Not even staff?
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (zOTsN) I didn't say no women. I say no moms. And no, there wasn't a one. Ever. The secretaries had already had their kids, the female grad students hadn't yet had theirs. So ... no nursing. Whatsoever. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:10 PM (oKE6c) 177
Every time I dye my hair red I feel like a used tampon...
Posted by: Zettai "Akai" Ryoiki at April 20, 2016 09:10 PM (kP16F) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:10 PM (voOPb) 179
166 What do you call Ace and Al Roker orbiting the earth in the International Space Station?
Starship Poopers. Shartship Troopers Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 09:11 PM (7qAYi) 180
Didn't Mrs. Abraham pop out a baby at age 99?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (voOPb) Caitlyn is not married to a a Jewish patriarch and keeper of the Covenant. :^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:11 PM (w4NZ8) Posted by: Creepy British guy in pub at April 20, 2016 09:11 PM (+FSld) 182
Women infantry,something Heinlein did not include in his book.
It had been a while since I'd read it, but I didn't remember a Neil Patrick Harris-ghey level of bug-psychic being in there, either. Doogie-hawser. Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 20, 2016 09:11 PM (xq1UY) 183
I have never used a restroom couch for cramps. I don't know anyone who has. I have personally never seen it. I have used them to nurse. Now teen girls like to sit on the couch with their girlfriends and gossip on occasion. But no. Definitely not a fainting couch
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:12 PM (zOTsN) 184
I think we should fully help those who wish to push gender ambiguity on others actually experience it themselves by cutting off their balls.
Posted by: Somewhat irritated at April 20, 2016 09:12 PM (J3UIw) 185
180 Didn't Mrs. Abraham pop out a baby at age 99?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:07 PM (voOPb) Maybe it was in dog years. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:12 PM (oKE6c) 186
You guys are doing great!
Posted by: zombie Caesar Nero at April 20, 2016 09:12 PM (DWWqD) 187
>>>Reg: I'm not oppressing you Stan. You haven't got a womb! Where's the fetus going to gestate? You gonna keep it in a box?
Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (nUJM6)<<< **hiss** Keep that thing away from me. Posted by: Schrodinger's Cat at April 20, 2016 09:12 PM (H9MG5) 188
Ok kiddies pick you gender and go into the bathroom with that 40 year old dude in a dress no parental consent required..what could go wrong?
xoxox..your commie overlords Posted by: Willy at April 20, 2016 09:12 PM (Ffw22) 189
182 There were psychics iirc.
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 09:13 PM (B48dK) 190
"don't tell me they won't"
Ya know, I can't. There's still a lot of crazy to be seen before it goes pear shaped and nature inflicts a severe correction. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:13 PM (/IUtp) 191
I didn't say no women. I say no moms. And no, there wasn't a one. Ever. The secretaries had already had their kids, the female grad students hadn't yet had theirs. So ... no nursing. Whatsoever.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:10 PM (oKE6c) You've just said something that should cause you to lose your Nobel Prize, if you had one. Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 20, 2016 09:13 PM (uURQL) Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 09:13 PM (fiGNd) 193
183 I have never used a restroom couch for cramps. I don't know anyone who has. I have personally never seen it. I have used them to nurse. Now teen girls like to sit on the couch with their girlfriends and gossip on occasion. But no. Definitely not a fainting couch
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:12 PM (zOTsN) OK, that was what I was told. But if they're using it to sit around and bullshit, all the more reason to 86 it. A chair would do for sitting. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:13 PM (oKE6c) 194
I think Nordstroms even calls it their nursing station
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:14 PM (zOTsN) 195
163 God's patience has to be wearing thin.HAS to be.
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (B48dK) I don't want to be on his bad side Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:14 PM (voOPb) 196
So ... my freshmen year ... I "slept over" with a chic at her apartment. She "got her visit" in the middle of the night.
Don't gross out guys. Just tell her ... "It's natural. No big deal. All good." Trust me. *Two Great Big Thumbs Up with Shit Eating Grin* Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 08:49 PM (fiGNd) You still had two other options. No biggie. Posted by: Blano at April 20, 2016 09:14 PM (heN73) 197
almost there...
Posted by: NAMBLA at April 20, 2016 09:14 PM (DWWqD) 198
I've never seen a couch in a ladies' bathroom. All kinds of other stuff (don't ask), but no couch.
Posted by: Lady in Black...Death to the Man Bun at April 20, 2016 09:14 PM (+FSld) 199
If there were couches in a mens room I wouldn't sit on it without a spacesuit.
Posted by: steevy at April 20, 2016 09:15 PM (B48dK) 200
I'm laughing at the fact that by caving to a vocal group that in no way represents the majority of people (much less rational people) Mizzou will reap marketplace consequences.
May the fire spread. Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 20, 2016 09:15 PM (tM4uk) 201
I know of offices w/ couches in womyn's lounge where babies were not permitted in the office
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:15 PM (dBmVV) 202
121 The whole world. Nuts.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 20, 2016 08:48 PM (CFc5L) You can find a respite from that world in my pants. Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 20, 2016 09:00 PM (Irpgk) Really very doubtful. And I ain't sharing a bathroom with you either. Posted by: washrivergal at April 20, 2016 09:15 PM (CFc5L) 203
182 Women infantry,something Heinlein did not include in his book.
It had been a while since I'd read it, but I didn't remember a Neil Patrick Harris-ghey level of bug-psychic being in there, either. Doogie-hawser. Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 20, 2016 09:11 PM (xq1UY) Still the greatest movie ever made about killing giant space grasshoppers. Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 09:15 PM (7qAYi) 204
Decades ago, I was in the old Agriculture Bldg on campus. I peaked into the ladies lounge. It was a YUGE room you entered before going into a separate room for the johns. This lounge was filled with lounge chairs, not just couches. Hell, there must have been 20-30 of them in that room. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:15 PM (iQIUe) 205
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:14 PM (voOPb)
If you don't want to be on his bad side of God you're probably not (aide from the idea that we're all sinners), just as if you are worried about committing blasphemy against the Holy Sprit, you haven't. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:16 PM (w4NZ8) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:16 PM (/IUtp) 207
You still had two other options. No biggie.
All well and good ... but after hearing these damn women have a three piece dinette in their damn bathroom ... starting to get a bit pissed. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 09:16 PM (fiGNd) 208
The executive floor restrooms were recently remodeled at the office, and the men's room now has a fake orchid on the counter next to the sink. Does this make us gay?
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2016 09:17 PM (e3bId) 209
198 I've never seen a couch in a ladies' bathroom. All kinds of other stuff (don't ask), but no couch.
Posted by: Lady in Black...Death to the Man Bun at April 20, 2016 09:14 PM (+FSld) Oh, I have, several times. Some of the old, ornate movie theaters had them. Plus I've seen a few in restaurants. Posted by: washrivergal at April 20, 2016 09:17 PM (CFc5L) 210
no man in his right mind would sit on a couch in a men's room. more often than not, the smell creates a 'do your stuff, and get out ASAP' environment.
I should have said 'no STRAIGHT man in his right mind' we know why the gheighs would have a sofa Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:17 PM (dBmVV) 211
>>The executive floor restrooms were recently remodeled at the office, and the men's room now has a fake orchid on the counter next to the sink. Does this make us gay?
Posted by: Weasel Depends what you do with the fake flower. Posted by: Aviator at April 20, 2016 09:18 PM (c7vUv) 212
I may never be Kate Upton's loofah, but I am going to go work on an model.* BBL.
*1/72 A-6 Intruder Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 09:18 PM (7qAYi) 213
PMS? Yeah the Duchess tried that excuse when we were first married. Having none of it, I explained that sometimes I'm a total asshole. When that happens ill own up to It, not blame it on some hormonal balance. Want to be a bitch, be a bitch. Quit making it out to be something out of your control. PMS works as an excuse for women 18-29.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2016 09:18 PM (kTF2Z) 214
The couches are only at really nice department stores like nordstroms or neiman marcus. Not Macy's for instance. A restroom couch might be in the church bathroom, or at work. Definitely not at all or even most bathrooms. So either super nice department stores or gathering places where they know you. Not anywhere else
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:18 PM (zOTsN) 215
>>>I like this out-of-context fragment: The student, whose gender and race is unclear... No shit.<<< It's just Pat! Posted by: SNL at April 20, 2016 09:18 PM (H9MG5) 216
"If there were couches in a mens room I wouldn't sit on it without a spacesuit."
No shit. Get in. Achieve objective. Get out. Hang around and gab? Farts rattling on the walls? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:18 PM (/IUtp) Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:18 PM (dBmVV) 218
but after hearing these damn women have a three piece dinette in their damn bathroom ... starting to get a bit pissed
Which is exactly what would happen to a three piece dinette in the men's room.. Posted by: NAMBLA at April 20, 2016 09:19 PM (DWWqD) 219
ewww
Posted by: Mortimer at April 20, 2016 09:19 PM (DWWqD) 220
198 I've never seen a couch in a ladies' bathroom. All kinds of other stuff (don't ask), but no couch.
Posted by: Lady in Black...Death to the Man Bun at April 20, 2016 09:14 PM (+FSld) A number of us used to work until the small hours (a lot easier to get stuff done when there was no one around), and occasionally some of us had to do experiments that took 18 hours or so. One guy's experiments necessitated taking measurements every four hours, and it was from him that I learned about the couches in the women's can. We used to laugh about it. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:20 PM (oKE6c) 221
>>210 no man in his right mind would sit on a couch in a men's room. more often than not, the smell creates a 'do your stuff, and get out ASAP' environment.
I should have said 'no STRAIGHT man in his right mind' we know why the gheighs would have a sofa --- The smell of sharting in the airport men's room is gagorific. Usually try to hold my breath and get out fast. Posted by: Willy at April 20, 2016 09:20 PM (Ffw22) 222
122 104 'Men and women shd never shower together for obvious reasons.'
Uh, whut? Posted by: freaked at April 20, 2016 08:55 PM (BO/km) Oh I dunno...wall to wall boners for one. Posted by: Insomniac BonerS? I have a strict one boner per shower stall rule. It's a safe zone. I like to handle the soap in a devil-may-care fashion, and be able to drop the soap with impunity. Even a small extra boner would constitute a macro-aggression. Don't care how clean it is. Check your boners at the bathroom door or find your own shower stall. I'm thinking of making a sign. Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 20, 2016 09:20 PM (QdAXQ) 223
As long as the facility can accommodate it, I have no problems with women having a sitting area in their restrooms.
Just don't make sitting areas mandatory. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:20 PM (A5Xf+) 224
it's where they sit around and bitch.
I have never sat on a couch in a bathroom and bitched, and I agree with Thunder B; I haven't seen too many couches in restrooms and I don't think we have to make it a crime if there is one. :^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:21 PM (w4NZ8) 225
214 The couches are only at really nice department stores like nordstroms or neiman marcus. Not Macy's for instance. A restroom couch might be in the church bathroom, or at work. Definitely not at all or even most bathrooms. So either super nice department stores or gathering places where they know you. Not anywhere else
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:18 PM (zOTsN) Number of places that have couches in the mens' rest room: 0. Good job, too, or the fags would wear them out. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 09:21 PM (oKE6c) 226
You still had two other options. No biggie.
Posted by: Blano at April 20, 2016 09:14 PM (heN73) One option. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 09:22 PM (zc3Db) 227
I gotta' go. Wife's sniffing around. She see's this shit about a couch in the bathroom ?
My God - that's gonna' be expensive. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 20, 2016 09:22 PM (fiGNd) 228
At our synagogue it's 90% of the time girls giggling and gossiping on the couch. Supposed to be for moms, but the moms are in services.
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:22 PM (zOTsN) 229
Two different offices I worked at had couches in the ladies room. I don't remember ever sitting on either one of them.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 20, 2016 09:22 PM (CFc5L) 230
I've seen couches in the ladies' room at the country club, but nobody that I know hangs out in the shitter.
Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2016 09:22 PM (+E2Y7) 231
The right?
They fold at first contact with the enemy, wouldn't want to offend the moderates, independents, unmarried single women or Latinos. There is a lesson to be learned here. Posted by: Kreplach at April 20, 2016 08:36 PM (WVvzl) For God's sake man we're working on it! I'm drawing up plans right now while sitting in this deck chair! Monroe, where's my watercress sandwich? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 20, 2016 09:23 PM (4ErVI) 232
I wonder if the new non gender specific restrooms will smell freah like roses in the morning.
:shudders: I need my safe space! Posted by: Willy at April 20, 2016 09:23 PM (Ffw22) 233
There are cultures where men and women can shower and sauna together and not get boners or sexualize it.
I find it quite enjoyable to be comfortably naked among women strangers. Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 20, 2016 09:23 PM (1xUj/) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:24 PM (/IUtp) 235
They are hell bent on destroying our children, and our whole society.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 09:24 PM (dFi94) 236
The executive floor restrooms were recently remodeled at the office, and the men's room now has a fake orchid on the counter next to the sink. Does this make us gay?
Posted by: Weasel Yes, yes it does. /s Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:24 PM (A5Xf+) Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 09:24 PM (iQIUe) 238
This is why men want to be women. It's for the restroom couches. Couch fuckers
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:24 PM (zOTsN) Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 20, 2016 09:25 PM (xq1UY) 240
"Number of places that have couches in the mens' rest room: 0."
I don't even like the valet in *cough* certain places. Seems creepy with somebody just hanging around. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:25 PM (/IUtp) 241
it's 90% of the time girls giggling and gossiping on the couch. Supposed to be for moms, but the moms are in services.
------ It's the same in the Protestant churches too ThunderB Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:25 PM (voOPb) 242
I think womyn just like furniture. And pillows. If there's a pillow I'm not s'posed to use, don't put it on my f*#@ing bed. Do what you want with the spare bed, but screw this '8 pillows of different shapes & sizes' on MY bed.
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:27 PM (dBmVV) 243
They are hell bent on destroying our children, and our whole society.
Posted by: grammie winger, They are. And they include most of my family who vote- not for this nonsence- but for the people who let it come to be by their pandering. We are in trouble. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:27 PM (A5Xf+) 244
If you can convince a little baby child that there is no such thing as "HE" or "SHE" - that those are arbitrary terms to be plucked out of the air on a whim, that whole child's sense of reality is going to be distorted for a very long time. It is a total mind-warp. They will learn to trust nothing and to grasp on to someone who seems stronger than they are, just to have some stability in their life. This leaves them open to predators. We are to protect our children, not set them up as bait.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 09:27 PM (dFi94) 245
>>I don't even like the valet in *cough* certain places. Seems creepy with somebody just hanging around.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill Give them a dollar so they quit trying to spray cheap cologne on you. Posted by: Aviator at April 20, 2016 09:28 PM (c7vUv) 246
Starship Poopers.
Posted by: Sir Mansfield at April 20, 2016 09:08 PM (CUk0C) Is that on Netflix? Posted by: Joe Biden at April 20, 2016 09:28 PM (cmE8J) 247
"Number of places that have couches in the mens' rest room: 0." Men are apes. Read it on last night's ONT. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 20, 2016 09:28 PM (k4M/B) 248
A girl spending an inordinate amount of time in the bathroom is either gossiping or fixing her hair or makeup
A guy spending an inordinate amount of time in the bathroom.... Nevermind Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:28 PM (zOTsN) 249
Now we are all sons of bitches.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 20, 2016 09:28 PM (D0J8L) 250
That's just a funny statement.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:24 PM (/IUtp) Why? I have a right to bitch (right now anyway) in many other places. So, why do i have to use a couch in a bathroom? I spent a fair amount of the day bitching-well, griping anyway while I was standing straight up, and no I was';t griping at my husband or about him. He is a good soul and puts up with my complaints. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:29 PM (w4NZ8) Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:29 PM (zOTsN) Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:30 PM (dBmVV) 253
I think one reason the progressive left hates Christians so much is, the left wants to move ever left-er. And we won't go. It makes them mad that we won't fall in line behind the latest stupidity. Well I'm not moving left, that's for sure. As a matter of fact, I'm listening to Patsy Cline sing "Just a Closer Walk With Thee".
So I'll be over here, in my Christian shame spot. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 09:31 PM (dFi94) 254
If there are no he or she babies which one will the Pharaoh kill?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 20, 2016 09:31 PM (k4M/B) 255
The second you get rid of Affirmative Action, all this shit will disappear.
These morons couldn't get into a decent university under normal circumstances. Posted by: TexasJew at April 20, 2016 09:31 PM (N7G17) 256
It had been a while since I'd read it, but I didn't remember a Neil Patrick Harris-ghey level of bug-psychic being in there, either. Doogie-hawser. Posted by: Stringer Davis That was Juan Rico's friend "Carl", with whom he grew up. In the book, Carl was stationed at the Research Station on Pluto, which got "smeared" (read nuked) by the Bugs. Juan and Carmen talked about it at dinner when he was dirtside on Sanctuary. I think this was when he knew that his Mom had been killed when Buenos Aires was nuked, and thought his Dad was dead too. All the losses they knew about in the Bug War. Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 20, 2016 09:31 PM (+1T7c) 257
"I have a right to bitch (right now anyway) in many other places. "
Just the thought, I chuckled. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:33 PM (/IUtp) 258
I'm listening to Bob Dylan's "Shadows in the Night" again.
It's an album consisting of old standards that were all covered by Frank Sinatra. Not your usual Dylan album, to say the least. I'm a Fool to Want You The Night We Called it a Day Stay With Me Autumn Leaves Why Try to Change Me Now Some Enchanted Evening Full Moon and Empty Arms Where Are You? What'll I Do That Lucky Old Sun I bought it last night. It's been out for a year, but I never got around to it until now. I liked it immediately, and this is my fourth listening. It's very relaxing. (When I was a kid, my parents had a recording of "Autumn Leaves" by Andy Williams that I liked.) There are 888 customer reviews on Amazon, and they run the gamut. They make interesting reading. The overall rating is 3.6 stars. There are a lot of 1 star reviews, but they are greatly outnumbered by the 5 star reviews. https://tinyurl.com/jmgfrj7 The musicians on the album are his regular touring band that he's been playing with for years, augmented in places with tastefully muted horns. Those guys are awesome. They can play anything. Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2016 09:33 PM (sdi6R) 259
Dear Lord it's like the whole world has turned into the Manson family.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 09:33 PM (dFi94) 260
This is not a totally knew concept to the British. Circa 1768 deep into the vast voids of the south pacific, Captain Cook found several of his young crew to possess a feminine nature. This seemed to strike his fancy and a transgender 'cabin boy' was born with a quickness, followed by an ample harsh lash upon the bottom for good measure.
Posted by: Tyler Mason at April 20, 2016 09:34 PM (DQ7cg) 261
"The second you get rid of Affirmative Action.."
Hoo boy, your fingertips to Capitol City's ears. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:35 PM (/IUtp) 262
"Number of places that have couches in the mens' rest room: 0."
Men are apes. Read it on last night's ONT. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. _____ Moose out front shoulda told 'em. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:35 PM (A5Xf+) 263
Dear Lord it's like the whole world has turned into the Manson family.
Posted by: grammie winger Well, they certainly want you to think that way. They're doing their best to crush your spirit and morale. Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 20, 2016 09:35 PM (+1T7c) 264
http://tinyurl.com/h49f538
Warning! This is Bill O'Ego crowning trump. I didn't watch it, I saw earlier thread about Hannity, etc. I read description & it's enough for me. I can't stand Bill & won't watch. Posted by: Carol at April 20, 2016 09:35 PM (sj3Ax) 265
Is this the couch thread?
Posted by: That guy who always says... at April 20, 2016 09:36 PM (Dwehj) 266
Well, they certainly want you to think that way. They're doing their best to crush your spirit and morale.
Just remember: It's only about this world if this world's all you have. If you don't, you are free. Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 20, 2016 09:37 PM (D0J8L) 267
I think it's time we started punishing dogs for sniffing crotches when they first meet, this is an age-old example of sexism that our society has tolerated for too long.
Posted by: AD at April 20, 2016 09:37 PM (GuEFf) 268
I just read that ESPN fired Curt Schilling. You know--this is a a little too fast, and with a few too many people all on the same page, for such a major philosophical shift in thinking to happen by osmosis, or even by peer pressure, so...would the Left like to finally reveal the gospel it is reading, the Common Sense that has resolved itself in its firmness and that it passes in the QT amongst itself?
Posted by: Somewhat irritated at April 20, 2016 09:38 PM (J3UIw) 269
"Circa 1768 deep into the vast voids of the south pacific, "
Buggery on a ship of Her Majesty's Royal Navy?! The Hell you say, sir. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:38 PM (/IUtp) 270
You bet granny. Being led to the slaughter by 50% of our retarded population.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 20, 2016 09:38 PM (89T5c) Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 20, 2016 09:38 PM (D0J8L) 272
Posted by: That guy who always says... at April 20, 2016 09:36 PM (Dwehj)
Only if you're a nursing mom,. a teen girl gossiping or a transgender man to woman. ;^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:38 PM (w4NZ8) 273
O'Reilly has spunk on his chin
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at April 20, 2016 09:38 PM (hCdMd) 274
Is there an agency that will put me into a coma while America goes through its insane phase? Besides the local tavern, I mean.
Posted by: CrustyB at April 20, 2016 09:39 PM (Hnglq) 275
how you knew about those? Ever heard of janitors? Ever been one? We've been everywhere, man! We're the little people that Mizzou will give the boot to instead of tendered grievance mongers. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot, Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 20, 2016 09:39 PM (BK3ZS) 276
>>>Warning! This is Bill O'Ego crowning trump.
I didn't watch it, I saw earlier thread about Hannity, etc. I read description it's enough for me. I can't stand Bill won't watch. Posted by: Carol at April 20, 2016 09:35 PM (sj3Ax)<<< Trump's hair looks like a giant loofah. He's definitely my kind of guy. And look for my new book... Killing Brain Cells... coming to bookstores everywhere. Posted by: Bill O'Really at April 20, 2016 09:40 PM (H9MG5) 277
>>> A guy spending an inordinate amount of time in the bathroom.... Nevermind
------ Reading Outdoor Life Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:40 PM (voOPb) Posted by: Farmer at April 20, 2016 09:41 PM (o/90i) 279
I actually was reading about some of the former Manson family members last night. I heard one of them, dang - I forget his name - Bruce something? - I dunno, anyway he became a follower of Christ and had a prison ministry for many years before he passed away couple of years ago. The program was a recording obviously, since he's dead. There was someone else in the Manson family who came to faith in Jesus as well. Can't tell you the name of him either. I'm just a fountain of information.
Anyway, it just goes to show that no one - not one - is beyond the reach of the love of God. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 09:41 PM (dFi94) Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 20, 2016 09:41 PM (4bzP6) 281
God: Noah...
Noah: Huh? Who's that? God: The Almighty. Want to talk to you about a cleaning job. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 20, 2016 09:41 PM (/h7EQ) 282
Dear Lord it's like the whole world has turned into the Manson family.
Posted by: grammie winger Well, they certainly want you to think that way. They're doing their best to crush your spirit and morale. Posted by: Bossy Conservative.. Yes, it's all about perception. Not based in reality at all, but it IS the perception, and it's scary how many of our citizens (comrades) are happily falling into line. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:41 PM (A5Xf+) 283
>>>When did sports become so .... ghey? It's like a freakin' obsession with them.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! The networks pandering for the female audience with the sideline reporterette. Posted by: davidt at April 20, 2016 09:41 PM (8aOqE) 284
Anyway, it just goes to show that no one - not one - is beyond the reach of the love of God.
Amen. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:42 PM (w4NZ8) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:42 PM (/IUtp) 286
ver heard of janitors? Ever been one? We've been everywhere, man!
I have a pretty good knowledge of what the ladies' bathrooms look like at my church for exactly that reason - I've spent the last two decades mopping them out! And yes, they do have decorations, etc. lacking in the utilitarian men's rooms. Posted by: Grey Fox at April 20, 2016 09:42 PM (bZ7mE) 287
>>It's an album consisting of old standards that were all covered by Frank Sinatra. Not your usual Dylan album, to say the least.
Because, when I hear Frank Sinatra singing a standard I think, "I wonder how awful Bob Dylan could make this sound?". Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 09:44 PM (4bzP6) 288
Call me sexist but I kind of like that my daughter and her friends would chat and giggle in the ladies room. Little women
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:44 PM (zOTsN) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:44 PM (/IUtp) 290
>>>The networks pandering for the female audience with the sideline reporterette.
Posted by: davidt at April 20, 2016 09:41 PM (8aOqE)<<< And caring about what everyone Twitters about... And our pregame/postgame athlete fashion critiques... Posted by: E!SPN at April 20, 2016 09:44 PM (H9MG5) 291
If they put couches in Men's rooms, someone would pee on them. Mens bathrooms are disgusting, even to my rather low standards. If I wrap my shemagh around my waist and call it a skirt, can I shit in the ladies room - its much nicer in there.
Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2016 09:45 PM (cXiMR) 292
Do I need to say it?
Posted by: chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at April 20, 2016 09:45 PM (cgH9o) 293
Grammy,
You are thinking of Charles "Ted" Watson. God is the final judge on repentance, but I'll say that I have my doubts on his. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:45 PM (A5Xf+) 294
Tex
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:46 PM (zOTsN) 295
Call me sexist but I kind of like that my daughter and her friends would chat and giggle in the ladies room. Little women
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:44 PM (zOTsN) ***** What would you think of your theoretical Son and his friends chatting and giggling around the Boys room couch? Little Men? Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 09:46 PM (YLidQ) 296
I know I've read it here numerous times, but this world has become just too damn stupid to survive.
Posted by: jjod3 at April 20, 2016 09:46 PM (3UYA8) 297
"Call me sexist "
It's not sexist. It's just the dramatic difference between the way men and women view the use of the restroom. For men, it's not a social event. I see a bit of a parallel between the way men and women go to the bathroom and go to the store. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:47 PM (/IUtp) 298
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:44 PM (zOTsN)
I didn't know you had a daughter, ThunderB. I've just heard you mention boys. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:47 PM (w4NZ8) 299
So Heatstreet is owned by Dow Jones & Company, Inc? Is this something?
Posted by: BornLib at April 20, 2016 09:47 PM (zpNwC) Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:48 PM (A5Xf+) 301
Little boys run around outside and in the halls. They don't want to hang out talking privately and giggling in the boys room
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:48 PM (zOTsN) 302
We are no longer a serious species.
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 09:48 PM (4bzP6) 303
You are thinking of Charles "Ted" Watson.
=============================== No, I don't think that was the name of the guy I heard giving the talk. It was someone else, I think. Lemme see if I can dig for it ...... Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 09:48 PM (dFi94) 304
I see a bit of a parallel between the way men and women go to the bathroom and go to the store.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:47 PM (/IUtp) So when women go to the bathroom, they are shopping for.... ? Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 09:48 PM (dpnZC) 305
We used to chimney climb the entrance to the boys' room in jr. high.
Got caught by Sr. Rachel when I was 8 ft off the ground. Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 20, 2016 09:49 PM (OcD4G) Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:49 PM (A5Xf+) Posted by: That guy who always says... at April 20, 2016 09:49 PM (Dwehj) 308
If my sons are spending a lot of time in the bathroom something else is going on. My daughter and her friends, no, just being girls primping and chatting and bonding
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:49 PM (zOTsN) 309
Little boys run around outside and in the halls. They don't want to hang out talking privately and giggling in the boys room
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:48 PM (zOTsN) ***** OK then. Yes, you are being sexist. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 09:50 PM (YLidQ) 310
"So when women go to the bathroom, they are shopping for.... ?"
Not that, but, spending time. No hurry. Making an event of it. Socializing. Men think these are "have-tos" and just make short work of it while women more see them a big part of the day. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:51 PM (/IUtp) 311
I meant Bruce Davis, but my point still stands.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:48 PM (A5Xf+) ========================================= Yeah, I think Bruce Davis was the secondary guy I mentioned. I don't know too much about him. I think he recently got turned down for parole, if I'm not mistaken. The guy I listened to is dead. I gotta go diggin up bones..... Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 09:51 PM (dFi94) 312
The 1 star reviews fall into roughly three categories:
1. Dylan fans who are like, "He's the greatest songwriter evah! I want to hear his songs, not some fucking lounge music!" 2. Dylan fans who are like, "Hey, I like Dylan as much as the next guy, but come on." 3. Sinatra fans who are horrified and feel violated somehow. My favorite review was a 5 star review by a guy who is a fan of both Sinatra and Dylan, and burned his own CD featuring Frank's and Bob's versions side by side, to compare and contrast. He even provided a list of the various Sinatra albums containing his versions. Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2016 09:51 PM (sdi6R) 313
My daughter is amazing. So smart. So kind
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:51 PM (zOTsN) 314
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:48 PM (zOTsN)
Unless they are having a "Who Can Piss The Farthest" contest. In which case they will be spending a fair amount of time in the bathroom, or the parking lot behind the synagogue. Oh no....that's not dew on the cars..... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 20, 2016 09:51 PM (Zu3d9) 315
307 We are no longer a serious species. And the Brits seem to be blazing that trail. Posted by: That guy who always says... at April 20, 2016 09:49 PM (Dwehj) They lost their Empire and went nuts. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 09:51 PM (MQEz6) 316
For men, it's not a social event.
It's not a social event for most women, although we occasionally talk to other women while we're washing our hands or if there no toilet paper in the stall you may ask the person next to you to hand over some . Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:51 PM (w4NZ8) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:52 PM (/IUtp) 318
I believe that boys and girls and men and women have different behaviors. So if that's sexist, I'm guilty as charged.
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:53 PM (zOTsN) 319
314 Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:48 PM (zOTsN) Unless they are having a "Who Can Piss The Farthest" contest. In which case they will be spending a fair amount of time in the bathroom, or the parking lot behind the synagogue. Oh no....that's not dew on the cars..... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 20, 2016 09:51 PM (Zu3d9) Today boys can still have pissing contests, but they have to wear helmets. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 09:53 PM (MQEz6) 320
"Do Jews, Christians and Muslims believe in the same God?"
I've heard several times now from multiple independent sources that the public school educrats are going flat-out on the "Christians and Muslims believe in the same God" business. As in: specifically built into the lesson plan in Common Core social-studies classes. Of course, if we accept that particular premise for purposes of argument, it leads inexorably to some difficult questions for the left: "Since you've been telling us for ages that Christians are ignorant backward cretins, then if Christians and Muslims 'believe in the same God', does it not logically follow that Muslims are also ignorant backward cretins? And how long will it be before you start publicly describing Muslims as such?" Posted by: torquewrench at April 20, 2016 09:53 PM (noWW6) 321
No, I don't think that was the name of the guy I heard giving the talk. It was someone else, I think. Lemme see if I can dig for it ...... Posted by: grammie winger, Yes, sorry, I meant Bruce Davis, but my thoughts on any of the Manson still stand. I highly doubt their repentance. Of course, I am not the one who will judge. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 09:53 PM (A5Xf+) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:54 PM (/IUtp) 323
I look forward to some of the SJWs who identify as 'Female' having to put up with a couple of Truckers butt fucking in the last stall of the row the next time they hit up a Rest Stop.
It will be a cultural experience they can hold on to, forever. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 09:54 PM (4bzP6) 324
Grown women aren't hanging out in the restroom. Girls, about age 12 to 14
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:54 PM (zOTsN) 325
I believe that boys and girls and men and women have different behaviors. So if that's sexist, I'm guilty as charged.
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:53 PM (zOTsN) **** Of moving goalposts? Yes, you are. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 09:54 PM (YLidQ) 326
Dennis Rice. That's the dead Manson turned Christian guy that I heard speak.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 09:54 PM (dFi94) 327
>>>I think Mother Nature's patience is running short.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:52 PM (/IUtp)<<< She's on the rag too?! Posted by: SMOD... thinking I'll stay away at April 20, 2016 09:55 PM (H9MG5) 328
school educrats are going flat-out on the "Christians and Muslims believe in the same God" business.
I wouldn't be surprised. It isn't going toward with my teen boy, though. He's a conservative and has already heard his mom speak on this. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:55 PM (w4NZ8) 329
>>It's not a social event for most women, although we occasionally talk to other women while we're washing our hands or if there no toilet paper in the stall you may ask the person next to you to hand over some .
There's not a square to spare. I can't spare a square. Posted by: Jane from Seinfeld at April 20, 2016 09:55 PM (4bzP6) 330
I think Mother Nature's patience is running short.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:52 PM (/IUtp) Au contraire. I think she's got a wicked sense of humor. Posted by: antisocialist at April 20, 2016 09:55 PM (9n14Y) 331
I am thinking having some bumper stickers made up saying
I REFUSE TO HONOR OR CELEBRATE YOUR MENTAL ILLNESS Anybody want one? Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 20, 2016 09:56 PM (1ijHg) 332
>>>Today boys can still have pissing contests, but they have to wear helmets.
Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 09:53 PM (MQEz6)<<< And eye protection. Posted by: California at April 20, 2016 09:56 PM (H9MG5) 333
Ok Tim. I'm sexist.
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 09:56 PM (zOTsN) Posted by: Lou Grant at April 20, 2016 09:56 PM (k4M/B) 335
" So if that's sexist, I'm guilty as charged."
Of course we do. We're wired different. Designed so by nature and somehow managed to survive and propagate for thousands of years. But, the latest SJW perversion must be assauged, so, mutilated men now have fake periods. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 09:56 PM (/IUtp) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:57 PM (voOPb) 337
Posted by: torquewrench at April 20, 2016 09:53 PM (noWW6)
My God doesn't believe in the rape of children, or the beheading of innocents, or the blowing up of day care centers and chopping up children. And don't hand me the convenient bullshit about "Oh, read the Bible! It has brutality!" Look at 2,000 years of Jewish culture. And for shits and giggles, look at the last several hundred years of Christian culture. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 20, 2016 09:57 PM (Zu3d9) 338
Sheesh.
Can anyone recommend a historically white European university where they focus on learning and critical thinking instead of fucking cock sucking special snowflake social justice assholes (no, they are not "warriors" and should never ever be referred to as such). A university degree is worth less than the paper on which it is printed and only stupid fucking cocksucking helecopter breeders sign up to pay for this Starbucks indoctrination. Posted by: Al Swearengen at April 20, 2016 09:57 PM (hcbRf) Posted by: Sandra Flook at April 20, 2016 09:58 PM (Dwehj) 340
In the old days, it was boys hiding out in the toilet sneaking a smoke, telling dirty jokes or waiting to bully some awkward little dude.
And sometimes, all three. I know that a lot of girls were sneaking smokes in the toilet in high school. You could smell it on their breath. And there was always a place (at least a couple) where the cigarette smokers (teenagers) would gather during lunch to smoke, outside. The pot smoking took place inside cars. What was funny was when some of the teachers and kids were smoking together, and some teacher wanted to bum a Marlboro off some kid. Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 20, 2016 09:58 PM (+1T7c) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 09:58 PM (w4NZ8) 342
I wonder if the British Superintendent of Molestation sent that letter to Muslim parents.
No I don't. Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 20, 2016 09:58 PM (Ndje9) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:59 PM (voOPb) 344
Well I'm not moving left, that's for sure. As a
matter of fact, I'm listening to Patsy Cline sing "Just a Closer Walk With Thee". So I'll be over here, in my Christian shame spot. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 09:31 PM (dFi94) I am listening to Willie Nelson's Uncloudy Day. Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 09:59 PM (nUJM6) Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 20, 2016 09:59 PM (6FqZa) 346
I am thinking having some bumper stickers made up saying I REFUSE TO HONOR OR CELEBRATE YOUR MENTAL ILLNESS Anybody want one? Posted by: Grampa Jimbo I don't want my car vandalized. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 20, 2016 09:59 PM (k4M/B) 347
Of course the Bible has violence and atrocities in it. Heck, a good portion of it is history. Stuff happens. That doesn't mean God's on the hook for it. Hence the concept of Sin.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 09:59 PM (dFi94) 348
"She's on the rag too?!"
And when MN hits that time of the month as is already in a bad mood...........ain't nobody has a good day. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:00 PM (/IUtp) 349
Mirror in the bathroom recompense.
For all my crimes of self defense. Cures you whisper make no sense. Drift gently into mental ill-ness. Posted by: The English Beat at April 20, 2016 10:00 PM (CUk0C) 350
I am listening to Willie Nelson's Uncloudy Day.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 09:59 PM (nUJM6) ========================================== Ooooh that's a nice one. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:00 PM (dFi94) 351
Sheesh. Can anyone recommend a historically white European university where they focus on learning and critical thinking instead of fucking cock sucking special snowflake social justice assholes (no, they are not "warriors" and should never ever be referred to as such). A university degree is worth less than the paper on which it is printed and only stupid fucking cocksucking helecopter breeders sign up to pay for this Starbucks indoctrination. Posted by: Al Swearengen at April 20, 2016 09:57 PM (hcbRf) Hillsdale Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:00 PM (nUJM6) 352
school educrats are going flat-out on the "Christians and Muslims believe in the same God" business.
I wouldn't be surprised. It isn't going toward with my teen boy, though. He's a conservative and has already heard his mom speak on this. Posted by: FenelonSpoke The question that should be asked is our modern conceptualization of Satan based on the historic reference or is it colored by out violent interaction with whatever it is the Muslims worship. Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2016 10:00 PM (cXiMR) 353
A college degree is something that you should only think about getting after you have acquired a marketable talent / trade / vocation.
Of course, once you have tasted that kind of success it will be a hell of a lot harder to take your Professors seriously. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:01 PM (4bzP6) 354
"Of course the Bible has violence and atrocities in it. Heck, a good portion of it is history. "
It does. It wasn't written by God. It's a fantastic mix of records and the Hand of God. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:01 PM (/IUtp) 355
Can anyone recommend a historically white European university where
they focus on learning and critical thinking instead of fucking cock sucking special snowflake social justice assholes (no, they are not "warriors" and should never ever be referred to as such). A university degree is worth less than the paper on which it is printed and only stupid fucking cocksucking helecopter breeders sign up to pay for this Starbucks indoctrination. Posted by: Al Swearengen at April 20, 2016 09:57 PM (hcbRf) The Citadel & VMI, if you mean in Europe -- Warsaw U, maybe. Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2016 10:01 PM (cXiMR) 356
308 If my sons are spending a lot of time in the bathroom something else is going on. My daughter and her friends, no, just being girls primping and chatting and bonding
Posted by: ThunderB ^^^this^^^ Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 10:02 PM (A5Xf+) 357
Of course, once you have tasted that kind of success it will be a hell of a lot harder to take your Professors seriously.
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:01 PM (4bzP6) **** Agreed. I did college that way. I found it hard not to go full Al Czervik on their smug, Ivory Tower asses. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 10:03 PM (YLidQ) 358
Mum, I'm so confused.
Posted by: Somewhere in Brighton and Hove at April 20, 2016 10:03 PM (Dwehj) 359
#140 Hey, he thinks he's female. Probly thinks he's 24, too.
Posted by: Gary Forbes at April 20, 2016 10:03 PM (Kucy5) 360
Can anyone recommend a historically white European university where
they focus on learning and critical thinking instead of fucking cock sucking special snowflake social justice assholes (no, they are not "warriors" and should never ever be referred to as such). European? No. American? Yes. Franciscan University of Steubenville Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:03 PM (w4NZ8) 361
Smokin' In The Boys Room
Posted by: Brownsville Station at April 20, 2016 10:03 PM (JO9+V) 362
Can anyone recommend a historically white European university where they
focus on learning and critical thinking instead of fucking cock sucking special snowflake social justice assholes (no, they are not "warriors" and should never ever be referred to as such) ================================================ You could try Martin Luther College in New Ulm Minnesota. I think they're pretty white. And Lutheran. Not the "anything goes" Lutheran. Not even the "Pretty Serious" Lutheran. They're the "WE MEAN BUSINESS" Lutheran. So yeah. Worth a look. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:03 PM (dFi94) Posted by: Monica Lewinski at April 20, 2016 10:03 PM (VSQee) 364
>>>threats to escalate into violence.
Finally, according to Newsweek (though this link is to Hot Air), the movement to end "period shaming" is going "mainstream." Being as both Newsweek & Hot Gas are equally devoted to conservative principles, is there any point in distinguishing between the two? Posted by: Ishkibble at April 20, 2016 10:04 PM (N7KlP) 365
Anyone else think dandruff shampoo looks like Smurf spunk?
Posted by: Joe Biden at April 20, 2016 10:05 PM (7qAYi) 366
There are plenty of good colleges and universities out there, that aren't pro-SJW all the time.
Every university is going to have its SJW element of course because it contains a cross-section from a diverse set of populations. I would suggest looking at the mid-sized public regional universities. Not the snooty private ones, and not the super-huge big state universities (which are a rip-off in lots of different ways, not just academically). Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:05 PM (dpnZC) 367
The Citadel & VMI, if you mean in Europe -- Warsaw U, maybe.
Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2016 10:01 PM (cXiMR) Just don't worry about the "cadets" wearing the hijab at the Citadel, Progress is occurring everywhere, comrade! Posted by: Hrothgar at April 20, 2016 10:06 PM (wYnyS) 368
>> I found it hard not to go full Al Czervik on their smug, Ivory Tower asses.
I was raised the son of a carpenter who was the son of a stone mason. Uncles and cousins in every trade...I had to leave Architecture School. Couldn't get through 30 minutes of a lecture without rage-twitching. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:06 PM (4bzP6) 369
Anybody want one?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo I would buy a tee shirt with that on it. Bumpersticker, not so much. My truck can't defend itself against the "brave" people who would show how outraged they are against my property. Me, I can defend myself. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 10:06 PM (A5Xf+) 370
Yeah, you wouldn't want the bumper sticker if you work in a big city in a blue state.
SC has castle doctrine apply to cars. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 20, 2016 10:07 PM (1ijHg) 371
Grampa Jimbo, there's a car down the street with "Watch out, I'm all out of antidepressants!" on the passenger side and a rainbow-colored skull with same-sex symbols on the driver's side. Guess which candidate they had a sign for in their window (before the base contractors made them take it down)?
Posted by: pookysgirl at April 20, 2016 10:07 PM (hICko) 372
>>Anyone else think dandruff shampoo looks like Smurf spunk?
The taste is all wrong. Not nearly Smurfy enough. Posted by: Smurfette at April 20, 2016 10:07 PM (4bzP6) Posted by: Somewhere in Brighton and Hove at April 20, 2016 10:08 PM (Dwehj) 374
British asks parents to help their four-year-old children "pick" their gender.
The Left always wanted to start from "year zero", and it looks like once they've purged the past of reality, they'll get exactly what they wanted when civilization collapses... at least until invaders march in. Posted by: I for one support our alien insect overlords... at April 20, 2016 10:08 PM (vBeA5) 375
Wossamotta U
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 20, 2016 10:08 PM (k4M/B) 376
Guess which candidate they had a sign for in their window (before the base contractors made them take it down)?
Posted by: pookysgirl at April 20, 2016 10:07 PM (hICko) *please let it be me* Posted by: Jim Gilmore at April 20, 2016 10:08 PM (dpnZC) 377
When the parasites finishing destroying society they will have nothing left to live on-no one will. The host will be dead or driven underground, or in the camps. They will be unable to feed anymore.
Don't these imbecilic lunatics get this? Posted by: Northernlurker at April 20, 2016 10:08 PM (4rzL1) 378
Except that Martin Luther College is solely for training Wisconsin Synod Lutheran pastors and teachers, isn't it?
Wesleyan University of OK-where the college President spoke against the special snowflake mentality seems like a good conservative school too. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:09 PM (w4NZ8) Posted by: Smurfette at April 20, 2016 10:09 PM (4bzP6) 380
I was raised the son of a carpenter who was the son of a stone mason. Uncles and cousins in every trade...I had to leave Architecture School. Couldn't get through 30 minutes of a lecture without rage-twitching.
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:06 PM (4bzP6) **** I made it through, but only because of the pressure of "only College graduate in the family". Loved the College experience, hated the "learning" part. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 10:09 PM (YLidQ) 381
Every university is going to have its SJW element of course because it contains a cross-section from a diverse set of populations.
Unless you beat the shit out of the whiners until they quit. Posted by: Citadel grad at April 20, 2016 10:09 PM (cXiMR) 382
"Couldn't get through 30 minutes of a lecture without rage-twitching."
College will do that to you. One can only sit and listen to time-wasting bullshit and you think "WTF." I spent time in college and walked away. Wasn't doing me any good. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:09 PM (/IUtp) 383
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:00 PM (dFi94)
Try this one grammie winger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv24jRNASQM Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:09 PM (nUJM6) 384
Oh look...
Lindsay Lohan is "exploring Islam". http://fxn.ws/1NChWHB Isn't that just the cutest thing? Posted by: antisocialist at April 20, 2016 10:10 PM (9n14Y) 385
They lost their Empire and went nuts.
Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 09:51 PM (MQEz6) From the "sun never sets" to the Rotherham cover-up in roughly a hundred years Posted by: Hrothgar at April 20, 2016 10:11 PM (wYnyS) 386
I think a Magnificent Seven set in Africa or the Middle East, with a village of Christians hiring mercenaries to defend them against islamic terrorists would be a great movie.
Odds of it being made are the same as me being Kate Upton's loofah. Posted by: Josephistan at April 20, 2016 08:53 PM (7qAYi) That would make a hella fine movie. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2016 10:12 PM (UsLZp) Posted by: Smurfette at April 20, 2016 10:12 PM (4bzP6) 388
Man, Hannity and Ted got into it yesterday on the radio. Just hearing it now.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:12 PM (/IUtp) 389
Don't these imbecilic lunatics get this?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 20, 2016 10:08 PM (4rzL1) If they got it, they'd stop being imbecilic lunatics and start trying to come up with a worldview that fit the facts. Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 20, 2016 10:12 PM (HalrA) Posted by: Somewhere in Brighton and Hove at April 20, 2016 10:12 PM (Dwehj) Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 20, 2016 10:12 PM (1ijHg) 392
smurfsockOFF
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:12 PM (4bzP6) 393
Except that Martin Luther College is solely for training Wisconsin Synod Lutheran pastors and teachers, isn't it?
============================================ Now that I think of it, you're right. Little Winger was scheduled to go there, but found out that WELS will not commission chaplains to serve in the military, so he had to switch denominations to LCMS. WELS is very serious about no government entanglements. I thought it a bit much at the time. They were right. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:12 PM (dFi94) 394
For those of you who had a negative experience in college. What in particular was the problematic part?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:13 PM (dpnZC) 395
Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L26dFqRFiw
Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:13 PM (nUJM6) 396
>>>I would buy a tee shirt with that on it.
Bumpersticker, not so much. My truck can't defend itself against the "brave" people who would show how outraged they are against my property. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 10:06 PM (A5Xf+)<<< Ever since Michael put that sticker on me I've had nothing but trouble. So, the next time that fucker wants to go for a ride I'm going to turbo boost, and then ejection seat his fat ass into an overpass. Posted by: KITT at April 20, 2016 10:15 PM (H9MG5) 397
Man, Hannity and Ted got into it yesterday on the radio. Just hearing it now.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:12 PM (/IUtp) Hopefully Ted gave him holy hell for repeating Trump's "voterless election" lie. Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:15 PM (nUJM6) 398
I'm beginning to think that this whole "gender identity" thing is a con by the medical industry.
Old world: young boy: Mommy, I want to be a girl! Mommy: you're a boy. Here's a truck. Problem... solved. New world: young boy: Mommy, I want to be a girl! Mommy: First, we'll get you to a psychiatrist. Then, after several years of therapy, we'll visit a surgeon, and you'll start on hormones. Then, after a while, you'll have an operation and you'll be a girl! After awhile, you'll find out that you're really suffering from gender dysphoria and will become suicidal. Then we'll send you back to a psychiatrist, who will refer you to a surgeon, who will then turn you back into a boy. Problem: profits the medical industry. Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 20, 2016 10:15 PM (AHDxb) 399
Try this one grammie winger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv24jRNASQM
Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:09 PM (nUJM6) ========================================== We closed every Sunday night service at the Immanueal Baptist Church with that song. Either that or "Softly and Tenderly". Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris do a nice rendition of that. I think I walked the aisle to Just As I Am. Thank you. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:16 PM (dFi94) 400
As far as colleges worth, It depends on what degree track your interested in.
I chose comp sci and math most of my professors were Hasidic Jews, my classes were 99.9pct male and 0pct SJW. And this was in the Bronx at a tumultuous time in the late 80s early 90s when all of the shit we're experiencing now was first incubating. When Latino studies, women's studies and black studies was becoming all the rage. Stick to the hard sciences and you won't have to deal with this shit, mostly. Posted by: Kreplach at April 20, 2016 10:16 PM (WVvzl) 401
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Can anyone recommend a historically white European university where they focus on learning and critical thinking instead of fucking cock sucking special snowflake social justice assholes (no, they are not "warriors" and should never ever be referred to as such) -- Maybe Hillsdale College, which is a small conservative college in Michigan. Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 20, 2016 10:16 PM (AHDxb) 402
About six months prior to my entering kollidge I was a Sergeant of Marines in Desert Storm. I had no problem identifying bullshit. Got through the degree program in three years.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2016 10:16 PM (kTF2Z) 403
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 20, 2016 10:15 PM (AHDxb)
Sounds like a possibility. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:16 PM (w4NZ8) 404
I drink lots of milk because it has lotsa calculus to make my bones big and strong
It's an integral part of your daily meals. Posted by: Twiki&DiscoCanteen at April 20, 2016 10:16 PM (Ag8Mw) 405
For those of you who had a negative experience in college. What in particular was the problematic part?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:13 PM (dpnZC) ****** For me, it was Profs that had never really performed in the Business world, teaching Business. This just can not be done well if the person teaching it has never experienced it themselves. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 10:17 PM (YLidQ) 406
The Left always wanted to start from "year zero", and it looks like once they've purged the past of reality, they'll get exactly what they wanted when civilization collapses... at least until invaders march in.
Posted by: I for one support our alien insect overlords... at April 20, 2016 10:08 PM (vBeA5) It's always about New (Insert adjective here) Man. They think they can just throw out history and start fresh and everything will be rainbows and unicorn farts. It's the idiotic dribble of Rousseau magnified by centuries of echo chambers and accepted as the word of God. There is no noble savage. Mankind, in his natural state, is a barbarian - and not even the cool Conan type. Civilization isn't where we went wrong from our baseline state, it's how we've overcome it. But these people get everything wrong, it's their nature, and it starts with their central assumption that there is no objective truth. When you reject truth, all that remains is lies and madness. Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 20, 2016 10:17 PM (HalrA) 407
Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L26dFqRFiw Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:13 PM (nUJM6) ============================================ We're playing that one at the wedding!! Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:18 PM (dFi94) 408
For me, it was Profs that had never really performed
in the Business world, teaching Business. This just can not be done well if the person teaching it has never experienced it themselves. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 10:17 PM (YLidQ) The problem with Business is that it's one of the most classic examples of "Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach." Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 20, 2016 10:18 PM (HalrA) 409
whoops, stale ONT/80 scify sock off
Posted by: bananaDream at April 20, 2016 10:18 PM (Ag8Mw) 410
We closed every Sunday night service at the
Immanueal Baptist Church with that song. Either that or "Softly and Tenderly". Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris do a nice rendition of that. I think I walked the aisle to Just As I Am. Thank you. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:16 PM (dFi94) It was the call to the alter song at the church I grew up in... I always loved it but weeks when a lot of people got saved, we sang the verses over and over again Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:19 PM (nUJM6) 411
>>What in particular was the problematic part?
The fact that it's now like Cable. I have to pay for the Logo Network, it's required. Part of the Package. For every real course of study, there is an army of Lesbian Humanities Profs teaching a 1-200 level 'Required Course'. The University System is only interested in self perpetuation. Which is measured in Dollars in. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:19 PM (4bzP6) 412
I loved college, but am I a glad I am so ancient Ii missed the SJW bull--- and studying literature by dead white European males wasn't considered bad.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:19 PM (w4NZ8) 413
393 Except that Martin Luther College is solely for training Wisconsin Synod Lutheran pastors and teachers, isn't it?
==================== They don't appreciate the moron life style Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 10:19 PM (voOPb) 414
"What in particular was the problematic part?"
Business Major/History Minor. Useless upon useless recaps of what I had learned in high school and working jobs. The single best class I can ever remember having was a business law class in HS of all things. I remember more from that anything else. I came away from all college with nothing that was ever actually useful in real life. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:19 PM (/IUtp) 415
For those of you who had a negative experience in college. What in particular was the problematic part?
Posted by: chemjeff Hmmm, it was either eating cockroaches, the lack of air conditioning, the 'fun runs', or that I had to stand when a professor entered the room -- that stunk of privilege. Posted by: Citadel grad at April 20, 2016 10:20 PM (cXiMR) 416
So, the next time that fucker wants to go for a ride I'm going to turbo boost, and then ejection seat his fat ass into an overpass.
Posted by: KITT Fvckin A !!! Posted by: AmeriTruck at April 20, 2016 10:20 PM (A5Xf+) 417
For those of you who had a negative experience in college. What in particular was the problematic part?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:13 PM (dpnZC) ========================================= Free love. No bras. 8 am classes. The TKE house. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:20 PM (dFi94) 418
Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L26dFqRFiw
Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:13 PM (nUJM6) ============================================ We're playing that one at the wedding!! Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:18 PM (dFi94) Cool! That has always been one of my favorites... that and It Is Well With My Soul. Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:20 PM (nUJM6) 419
"It is well with my soul" is one of my favorite hymns.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:21 PM (w4NZ8) 420
I recall reading somewhere that the trans men who think they're women (like Caitlyn!!) can get quite pissy if you tell them they can't have periods.
They have periods damnit. And don't you try and tell xem otherwise. Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 20, 2016 09:01 PM (dBmVV) Bruce Jenner is of an age that, even if surgery could give him a functioning uterus and ovaries, they wouldn't function, because, past menopause. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2016 10:21 PM (UsLZp) 421
I loved college.
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 10:21 PM (C4d1Y) 422
Every university is going to have its SJW element of course because it contains a cross-section from a diverse set of populations.
Unless you beat the shit out of the whiners until they quit. Posted by: Citadel grad at April 20, 2016 10:09 PM (cXiMR) Unless you do what I did - I went to college aboard a Marine Corp base. Everybody who was there, wanted to be. They had goals, and not just a desire to avoid full time employment for four more years. Some of the young Marines had to deploy in the middle of a semester, or had duty and couldn't make class a time or two. They still finished. Minimum whining, minimum excuses, and if they couldn't cut it, they didn't come back next semester. Posted by: antisocialist at April 20, 2016 10:22 PM (9n14Y) 423
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:20 PM (dFi94)
Grammie Winger!!!! You just spoiled my entire picture of you! Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:22 PM (dpnZC) 424
They don't appreciate the moron life style
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 10:19 PM (voOPb) ======================================= Those WELS people do not mess around. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:22 PM (dFi94) 425
It is well with my soul" is one of my favorite hymns.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:21 PM (w4NZ It is beautiful and a help in times of extreme sorrow. Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:22 PM (nUJM6) 426
I went to work around my early 20's for a major national company, worked my way up, and, learned far more about business than anything any idget professor in college ever had an inkling about.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:22 PM (/IUtp) 427
Grammie Winger!!!! You just spoiled my entire picture of you!
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:22 PM (dpnZC) ============================================= Well I wasn't ALWAYS this old, ya know Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:23 PM (dFi94) 428
Free love. No bras. 8 am classes. The TKE house.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:20 PM (dFi94) ***** You. Are. Awesome. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 10:23 PM (YLidQ) 429
Posted by: Ishkibble at April 20, 2016 10:04 PM (N7KlP)
"Ishkibble" reminds me of my grandfather. He used to use that as an answer to "Says who?" all the time. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 10:23 PM (zc3Db) 430
"We recognise that not all children and young people identify with the gender they were assigned at birth or may identify as a gender other than male or female, "
...yea i am sure we can find a 4 year old who identifies as genderqueer. This Decline business along with the Fall of the Roman Empire is getting silly. Posted by: crazy ivan at April 20, 2016 10:23 PM (PHh2M) 431
Oh look...
Lindsay Lohan is "exploring Islam". You may not be interested in exploring islam but islam is interested in exploring you. Posted by: Yazidi women at April 20, 2016 10:24 PM (Ag8Mw) 432
I just love the thought of all of these downtrodden, racially hindered students having to compete with a robot for a job at McDonalds in a couple of years ... (or at Intel, or Bank of America, or at any other firm where doing a job is more important to the bottom line than the color of your politics, or your skin, or your sexual amusement fantasies.) Maybe the world will burn first, in which case perhaps they'll skate past the rude awakening. Let us pray.
Posted by: goon at April 20, 2016 10:24 PM (WCaSy) 433
O'Reilly *is* Ted Baxter. The other day, he couldn't understand where the notion of 1237 delegates came from. Why that number? His guests couldn't understand what he was really asking and explained that the number of total delegates is determined by a mish-mash of various state and national party rules.
That wasn't the problem. O'Reilly didn't understand the concept of a majority, you know greater than 50%. Some letter writer explained it to him, and he said, "Thanks, I did not know that." I do wonder if Ailes has to play the role of Lou Grant to him, you know threatening to break his face and slapping down his lunacy. Of course, a lot of people don't undertstand why a majority is, well, a concept and the difference between that and a plurality and all that. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 10:24 PM (DW+jj) 434
"It is well with my soul" has a very powerful story behind it:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/93qg3q6 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:24 PM (w4NZ8) 435
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:22 PM (dFi94)
I know, I was asked to leave Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 10:24 PM (voOPb) 436
Bruce Davis is alive and kicking. And dont be so gullible. Finding Jesus always looks good on parole applications. All these Manson freaks were involved in various religions, including Christianity, and it didnt stop their true nature. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 20, 2016 10:24 PM (iQIUe) 437
Minimum whining, minimum excuses, and if they couldn't cut it, they didn't come back next semester.
Posted by: antisocialist Yes, we had lots of MECEPs around making sure our shit was tight. Posted by: Citadel grad at April 20, 2016 10:25 PM (cXiMR) Posted by: AmeriTruck at April 20, 2016 10:25 PM (A5Xf+) 439
Business Major/History Minor.
Useless upon useless recaps of what I had learned in high school and working jobs. The single best class I can ever remember having was a business law class in HS of all things. I remember more from that anything else. I came away from all college with nothing that was ever actually useful in real life. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:19 PM (/IUtp) I hear that sometimes too from my students. All I can recommend to them is, if you have to take an intro-level class and you think you already know the material, you can always test out of the class and if you pass, receive credit for the class without wasting your time in the class. At least at our university the students have that option, maybe that was not the case for you at your college. The academic part of college is only partly about teaching facts and concepts, it is also about teaching students how to learn. I am sure you picked that up at least implicitly while there. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:25 PM (dpnZC) 440
The bathroom SJWs are just jealous because I do have a bloody rag* that gets me lots of attention.
*sock Posted by: Curt Schilling at April 20, 2016 10:25 PM (H9MG5) 441
I really liked Lindsay's twin in that movie that they made together when they were younger. What ever happened to her?
Posted by: goon at April 20, 2016 10:25 PM (WCaSy) 442
I liked the slutty college chicks, don't get me wrong.
And the insane amounts of free time. But, all in all, it was time I could have spent establishing and building a business and refining a trade. Time you can't get back. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:26 PM (4bzP6) 443
D'oh! Sock fail.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 10:26 PM (A5Xf+) 444
Of course, I'd take Ted Baxter and all his buffoonery over any of the news readers we have today. Any damn one of 'em.
All in all, though, I'd rather have Judge Smales. With Rodney Dangerfield as his boss. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 10:26 PM (DW+jj) 445
I know, I was asked to leave
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 10:24 PM (voOPb) ====================================== HA !! Why doesn't that surprise me? LOL too funny Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 20, 2016 10:26 PM (dFi94) 446
"It is well with my soul" has a very powerful story behind it:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/93qg3q6 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:24 PM (w4NZ Now I am crying. Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:27 PM (nUJM6) 447
I think Lindsay Lohan is one of those celebrity women who "vacations" in places like Dubai fairly often.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 20, 2016 10:27 PM (FQKBL) 448
College was pretty OK. Working is better. You have to love that testing against reality*. If the college loan program said "You have to get a summer job. No Government, no NGOs, no non-profits," I'd bet we'd see some improvement in the snowflakes, or at least the ones worth saving who might be tempted by that path.
* Government employees please disregard. Posted by: Splunge at April 20, 2016 10:27 PM (iMxBJ) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 10:28 PM (voOPb) 450
Speaking of idiot celebrities, I see there's some big broohaha involving that little string bean blonde dingbat who hosts what used to be Regis and Whatshername's, Frank Gifford's wife, show. The grinning football player that replaces her has been promoted and the dingbat is throwing a hissy fit and sulking.
And that's all they were talking about as though it's the most important thing in the world. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 10:30 PM (DW+jj) 451
"For those of you who had a negative experience in college. What in particular was the problematic part?"
EE major, here. The problem was the "be a well-rounded individual" classes. To avoid re-taking courses I had in high school, I took Religion. The prof made it clear on Day One that this was a "critical thinking" course. We would read books, many not explicitly religious, and write papers on their religious aspects. "Think for yourself." So I did. I read the book cover-to-cover. And thought about it, and wrote my own words. And got a big fat "C" on my first paper. So the rest of the year, I skimmed the books enough to pick a talking point or two, and used it to parrot back exactly what the prof said in class. "A"s all the way. The rest of my Religion/Anthropology/etc classes worked about the same. At least they were easy "A"s to keep the GPA up. Posted by: mikeski at April 20, 2016 10:30 PM (BKBr8) Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 20, 2016 10:30 PM (1ijHg) 453
"The academic part of college is only partly about teaching facts and concepts, it is also about teaching students how to learn. I am sure you picked that up at least implicitly while there."
You "learn" well before college. I learned to study in junior high. College only showed me that there was nothing there to learn . I'm a Junior and saying to myself "why am I wasting time here?" People are out making money. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:30 PM (/IUtp) 454
The fact that it's now like Cable. I have to pay for the Logo Network, it's required. Part of the Package.
For every real course of study, there is an army of Lesbian Humanities Profs teaching a 1-200 level 'Required Course'. The University System is only interested in self perpetuation. Which is measured in Dollars in. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:19 PM (4bzP6) The general studies classes really aren't about enriching the university. They really are about broadening students' horizons beyond their narrow fields of specialization. That being said, there is a wide variety between different universities in what constitutes the "general studies" curriculum. Some really load it up with a huge breadth of classes, while some are more cafeteria-style, letting you pick which ones you want. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:30 PM (dpnZC) 455
433 I do wonder if Ailes has to play the role of Lou Grant to him, you know threatening to break his face and slapping down his lunacy.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 10:24 PM (DW+jj) Funny stuff. Ironic that the fount of adult wisdom on the MTM show turned out to be one of the most idiotic commies in Hollywood. Posted by: Splunge at April 20, 2016 10:31 PM (iMxBJ) 456
The British Foreign Office has released an advisory warning travelers to be aware of controversial new laws in North Carolina and Mississippi before visiting the United States.
Note that the Charlotte Ordinance which triggered all of this was NOT "controversial", apparently. Also note that on the morning after NC HB2 was adopted, NOTHING was different than the day before. BUT, because NC reels in Charlotte for forming an ordinance which they did NOT have authority to assert in the first place, abruptly, NC is a dangerous place to travel. These people are sick. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2016 10:31 PM (9mTYi) 457
I had a great time in college. But.. I like school and learning in general-- also not a party person. I went to Central Michigan University which turned out to be incredibly conservative. Back in the day, there was the "support the gays by wearing jeans day" and EVERYONE made sure they did NOT wear jeans that day. Have no idea what it is like now.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 20, 2016 10:31 PM (AHDxb) 458
I really liked Lindsay's twin in that movie that they made together when they were younger.
I really liked Lindsay's "twins" in that movie she made together with that pr0n star who may or may not be a rapist. Posted by: typical disgusting Moron at April 20, 2016 10:32 PM (QDYBM) 459
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 10:23 PM (zc3Db)
I remember the same thing, only it was Ish KAbibble! Posted by: Mimzey at April 20, 2016 10:34 PM (aRUb8) 460
The fact that it's now like Cable. I have to pay for the Logo Network, it's required. Part of the Package.
Along with all those crappy Spanish language channels. Such total bullshit. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 10:34 PM (zc3Db) 461
The academic part of college is only partly about teaching facts and concepts, it is also about teaching students how to learn. I am sure you picked that up at least implicitly while there.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:25 PM (dpnZC) ***** I know you were not speaking to me, and in fact would probably prefer not to. i'm gonna gomahead anyway, cuz I'm like that. I did 2 years at JC, getting rid of all the required courses I had not already tested out of (7). My Dad died, and I had to run his insurance business for 3 years until we (Mom and I) could sell it. By the time I went back I could have taught those guys how to run a business. I aced it all, but had to fight for a few A's from teachers that were not cool with a guy who knew as much or more than they did. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 10:34 PM (YLidQ) 462
>>about as though it's the most important thing in the world.
Well it won't be in the mornings dump I can tell you that much Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 10:34 PM (voOPb) 463
241 it's 90% of the time girls giggling and gossiping on the couch. Supposed to be for moms, but the moms are in services.
------ It's the same in the Protestant churches too ThunderB Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 09:25 PM (voOPb) These are on the couches that don't exist? Just checking. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:34 PM (oKE6c) Posted by: PJ at April 20, 2016 10:34 PM (cHuNI) 465
the movement to end "period shaming" is going "mainstream."
Yeah, "mainstream." Mainstream what? Like, normal people? Get up. Have coffee. Go to work. Work. Lunch. More work. Go home. Spend a couple of hours "ending period shaming" before bed. Sleep. Repeat. Posted by: Splunge at April 20, 2016 10:35 PM (iMxBJ) 466
This another favorite of mine-"What a friend we have in Jesus" with a powerful story behind it. The video is about nine minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKjUoE2fack We sang it on Sunday at the congregation I am seeing as interim pastor. They are a very wounded group of folks.. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:35 PM (w4NZ8) 467
Along with all those crappy Spanish language channels. Such total bullshit. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 10:34 PM (zc3Db) Hot women in the telenovelas, though. Posted by: Joe Biden at April 20, 2016 10:35 PM (7qAYi) Posted by: Grump928(C) posts 200 comments late at April 20, 2016 10:35 PM (rwI+c) 469
Fen and grammie, here is something more contemporary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErPp5XZLnwA Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:36 PM (nUJM6) 470
I had a great time in college. But.. I like school
and learning in general-- also not a party person. I went to Central Michigan University which turned out to be incredibly conservative. Back in the day, there was the "support the gays by wearing jeans day" and EVERYONE made sure they did NOT wear jeans that day. Have no idea what it is like now. Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 20, 2016 10:31 PM (AHDxb) Maybe that's ALL they wear now. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:36 PM (oKE6c) 471
>>>The general studies classes really aren't about enriching the university. They really are about broadening students' horizons beyond their narrow fields of specialization.
And this shit, right here. This I couldn't handle. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:37 PM (4bzP6) 472
You "learn" well before college. I learned to study
in junior high. College only showed me that there was nothing there to learn . I'm a Junior and saying to myself "why am I wasting time here?" People are out making money. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:30 PM (/IUtp) Then you didn't challenge yourself enough while in college. Seriously. Not meant to be a put-down, honestly, but based on my experience here, you can find something to challenge you and make it worthwhile, you just have to look past the course catalog and seek out these opportunities yourself. We have students in our department who on paper look like they should be having an easy time, but in reality, they are working their butts off because they are spending lots of time in the research lab working on independent research projects, that don't necessarily show up, or stand out, on an academic transcript alone. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:37 PM (dpnZC) 473
" By the time I went back I could have taught those guys how to run a business. "
Word. No clue. The real world will educate you so much faster and surer. It's absurd. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:37 PM (/IUtp) 474
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 20, 2016 10:31 PM (AHDxb)
Maybe that's ALL they wear now. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:36 PM (oKE6c) Sorry, I meant that maybe they still don't wear jeans. Or anything else. 'Cause, you know, solidarity. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:37 PM (oKE6c) 475
I remember the same thing, only it was Ish KAbibble!
Posted by: Mimzey at April 20, 2016 10:34 PM (aRUb That's right. I tried putting a "bi" in there but it didn't look right ... though I did know it was a name in two parts. If your grandfather was anything like mine ... those were some good, good people. Salt of the Earth, really. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 10:37 PM (zc3Db) 476
This another favorite of mine-"What a friend we have in Jesus" with a powerful story behind it. The video is about nine minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKjUoE2fack We sang it on Sunday at the congregation I am seeing as interim pastor. They are a very wounded group of folks.. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:35 PM (w4NZ Thanks for sharing this Fen. Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:38 PM (nUJM6) 477
Run Chem Jeff run
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 10:38 PM (C4d1Y) 478
The British Foreign Office has released an advisory warning travelers to be aware of controversial new laws in North Carolina and Mississippi before visiting the United States.
I think it's fair to warn the Poofters that going in the Lady's Room here might well end with them spitting out chiclets. Especially if there are Moronettes present. Posted by: Grump928(C) posts 200 comments late at April 20, 2016 10:38 PM (rwI+c) 479
Then you didn't challenge yourself enough while in college. Seriously. Not meant to be a put-down, honestly, but based on my experience here, you can find something to challenge you and make it worthwhile, you just have to look past the course catalog and seek out these opportunities yourself. We have students in our department who on paper look like they should be having an easy time, but in reality, they are working their butts off because they are spending lots of time in the research lab working on independent research projects, that don't necessarily show up, or stand out, on an academic transcript alone.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:37 PM (dpnZC) It pains me to subscribe to one of chemjeff's opinions, but I have to endorse this one. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:38 PM (oKE6c) 480
Yep, Ed Asner is a damn communist. Screw him.
But, Lou Grant, the one on MTM, that is -- I don't remember enough about that drama show he did, "Lou Grant", based on the character -- is all right. He and I would gee-haw just fine. Many damn funny things he did. One that pops up. He was down and out about something, maybe his wife kicking him out of the house or something, and he was just hanging around Mary's apartment all the time, driving her nuts. She brought her new boyfriend of the week home one night, they never worked out, and there was Lou sleeping on her couch. The boyfriend ventured to wake him up and ol' Lou took a poke at him. "Never sneak up on somebody who was in a war!", he said. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 10:40 PM (DW+jj) 481
It pains me to subscribe to one of chemjeff's opinions, but I have to endorse this one.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:38 PM (oKE6c) Well, I'm glad we're making progress. Now let's talk about Muslims... Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:40 PM (dpnZC) 482
ted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:36 PM (oKE6c)
471 >>>The general studies classes really aren't about enriching the university. They really are about broadening students' horizons beyond their narrow fields of specialization. And this shit, right here. This I couldn't handle. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:37 PM (4bzP6) I loved that stuff, stuff that I wouldn't have otherwise read, and that I read to this day. It may be worthwhile reconsidering. Just sayin'. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:40 PM (oKE6c) 483
"Then you didn't challenge yourself enough while in college. Seriously."
National Honor Student here. I found it completely un-engaging. Did nothing for me and no knowledge to be found there. Science labs apart. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:41 PM (/IUtp) 484
Well, I'm glad we're making progress. Now let's talk about Muslims...
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:40 PM (dpnZC) Yes, let's. I look forward to you awakening from your slumber. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:41 PM (oKE6c) 485
"All I can recommend to them is, if you have to take an intro-level class and you think you already know the material, you can always test out of the class and if you pass, receive credit for the class without wasting your time in the class."
Be wary of how your University handles this. I attempted to test out of two courses; Freshman Comp, and the only Chemistry course they made EE's take. Chemistry? 99th percentile on the CLEP test. Done. Comp? 99th percentile on the CLEP test. But there were also two short essays (on SJWish topics, even back in the 90s; I'm pretty sure one was on student racial quotas). These were graded on-campus. I got "not satisfactory" on those, and had to take Freshman Comp. Which I proceeded to ace, by turning in my rough drafts as final copies for every paper. What I did wrong was fairly obvious, in retrospect. Posted by: mikeski at April 20, 2016 10:43 PM (BKBr8) 486
National Honor Student here. I found it completely un-engaging. Did nothing for me and no knowledge to be found there.
Science labs apart. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:41 PM (/IUtp) Then it was time to step it up. I finished the graduate program in chemistry, and taught a chem course ... before starting graduate school. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:43 PM (oKE6c) 487
478 The British Foreign Office has released an advisory warning travelers to be aware of controversial new laws in North Carolina and Mississippi before visiting the United States.
No wonder the muzzies are taking over Europe. Men with no chests indeed. Meanwhile I'm contemplating a little golf trip to the Pinehurst region in NC. Probably in October. Fuck those cultural fascists! Posted by: Puddleglum at April 20, 2016 10:44 PM (QKBK3) 488
Oh, to a a college prof'. Like 60k a year, golden benefits. You can preach utter shit. And, well nothing.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:44 PM (/IUtp) 489
I had a great time in college. But.. I like school and learning in general-- also not a party person. I went to Central Michigan University which turned out to be incredibly conservative. Back in the day, there was the "support the gays by wearing jeans day" and EVERYONE made sure they did NOT wear jeans that day. Have no idea what it is like now.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 20, 2016 10:31 PM (AHDxb) Went to Alma down the road. Joined the party fraternity (Theta Chi). Was all downhill from there, in an Animal House kind of way. Posted by: Blano at April 20, 2016 10:44 PM (heN73) 490
The Sistahhood is taking a beating. Literally.
First, the Fake Rape crisis diminishes real victims. Then they're supposed to lay back and enjoy it for the Refugees. They finally got schoolgirls into sports until they had to share the gym shower and now any creep who can mumble "I self-identify" can share the ladies room. There's gonna be trouble. Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 20, 2016 10:44 PM (Ndje9) 491
The general studies classes really aren't about enriching the university. They really are about broadening students' horizons beyond their narrow fields of specialization. That being said, there is a wide variety between different universities in what constitutes the "general studies" curriculum. Some really load it up with a huge breadth of classes, while some are more cafeteria-style, letting you pick which ones you want.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:30 PM (dpnZC) **** If this were true, my daughter could have skated on over a year and walked in a Sophomore, via HONORS and AP classes alone during High School. Thr exposure was there during High School. The University system simply would not allow her to both test and achieve out of a full year of revenue. I reject your argument, based on first hand experience. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 10:45 PM (YLidQ) 492
"Then it was time to step it up. I finished the graduate program in chemistry, and taught a chem course ... "
The science labs weren't a problem. No way in Hell I was going to a college prof. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:46 PM (/IUtp) 493
>>I loved that stuff, stuff that I wouldn't have otherwise read, and that I read to this day. It may be worthwhile reconsidering.
I never needed any encouragement in that, I resented the requirement of it at my expense. Big difference between buying a book on the Menstrual Rituals and Habits of the Pueblo Tribe and being forced to buy a book on the Menstrual Rituals and Habits of the Pueblo Tribe. Interesting, sure. I mean, if there are no Moss Covered Rocks - What's a Squaw to do? But making me pay, over and over, to keep a bunch of useless Profs and Instructors employed is too much to ask. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:47 PM (4bzP6) 494
Then you didn't challenge yourself enough while in college.
College is not about "challenging yourself". It's about learning things you want to know and need to know for your chosen area. There are many people who don't need to learn a lot of the stuff at college in order to be properly prepared for their working life. Seriously. Not meant to be a put-down, honestly, but based on my experience here, you can find something to challenge you and make it worthwhile, you just have to look past the course catalog and seek out these opportunities yourself. We have students in our department who on paper look like they should be having an easy time, but in reality, they are working their butts off because they are spending lots of time in the research lab working on independent research projects, that don't necessarily show up, or stand out, on an academic transcript alone. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:37 PM (dpnZC) That's fine and dandy but it seems to me that you don't really understand the reason that colleges and universities exist. You seem to think that it is the student's responsibility to make college a worthwhile experience. That's funny ... that a student would cough up tens of thousands of dollars to have to work around the college offerings in order to find something interesting. I taught at universities for quite a few years and I can tell you, without any doubt, that most of the functions of universities are useless and wasteful, and many of the students have no business being there in the first place (not to mention a large number of faculty and whole departments) and less getting a degree. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 10:47 PM (zc3Db) 495
488 Oh, to a a college prof'. Like 60k a year, golden benefits. You can preach utter shit. And, well nothing.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:44 PM (/IUtp) Depends on where you are, and in what subject. As a college prof at Hemorrhoid State, teaching Fisting Studies, sure. A sinecure. Basically, like teaching an AP course at high school is more demanding. In the bigs? Teaching a STEM subject? Where world class research, and lots of it, are expected? Another story. Another story entirely. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:48 PM (oKE6c) 496
Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:38 PM (nUJM6)
You're most we4lcome. For a while here I would post stories about some of the great hymns; That was one of my favorites. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2016 10:48 PM (w4NZ8) 497
>>>Oh, to a a college prof'. Like 60k a year, golden benefits. You can preach utter shit. And, well nothing.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:44 PM (/IUtp)<<< 60K. Ha. Haha. Hahahahahahahahahaha. That's when you bullshit about being an Indian. Then **ka-ching** like 300K, baby. Posted by: Fauxcahontas Warren at April 20, 2016 10:48 PM (H9MG5) 498
Well, I chopped up a couple peppers for the chili I am making in the slow cooker. Now my fingers are burning. First time I've used fresh peppers for chili.....
I'm a little worried about how hot the chili is going to be! Posted by: Grey Fox at April 20, 2016 10:49 PM (bZ7mE) Posted by: Fauxcahontas Warren at April 20, 2016 10:50 PM (H9MG5) 500
In the bigs? Teaching a STEM subject? Where world class research, and lots of it, are expected?
*nods proudly* Posted by: Prof. Michael Mann at April 20, 2016 10:50 PM (QDYBM) 501
"That's fine and dandy but it seems to me that you don't really understand the reason that colleges and universities exist. You seem to think that it is the student's responsibility to make college a worthwhile experience. That's funny ... that a student would cough up tens of thousands of dollars to have to work around the college offerings in order to find something interesting. "
You make joke. I get. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:51 PM (/IUtp) 502
From first hand experience years and years ago as young and stupid kid, wash your *before* taking a pee, after you've been handling hot peppers.
That is known as the University of Hard Knocks. It learns you good. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 10:51 PM (DW+jj) 503
Can anyone recommend a historically white European university where they focus on learning and critical thinking instead of fucking cock sucking special snowflake social justice assholes (no, they are not "warriors" and should never ever be referred to as such) ----------------------- Thomas Aquinas University in Santa Paula. Posted by: iforgot at April 20, 2016 10:51 PM (5o5ek) 504
If this were true, my daughter could have skated on over a year and walked in a Sophomore, via HONORS and AP classes alone during High School. Thr exposure was there during High School. The University system simply would not allow her to both test and achieve out of a full year of revenue. I reject your argument, based on first hand experience. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 10:45 PM (YLidQ) The fact that universities are even willing to grant college credit for highschool classes, or results from standardized tests, speaks against your assertion. Did your daughter take the AP tests at the end of the AP classes? Furthermore, what some highschools call "HONORS" really aren't honors-level work at all by any sort of rigorous standard. Maybe your daughter's highschool honors experience was awesome, but lots of highschools' honors experiences aren't. That being said, there are some colleges out there that really do pad their general studies curriculum. It's up to the conscientious student to choose the college based on the general studies experience that he/she most desires. Believe it or not, colleges do compete against each other, just like all businesses compete against each other, with some offering one type of service and some offering another type of service. If you want the super-huge general studies experience, go there. If you want the minimalist general studies experience, go to that one instead. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:52 PM (dpnZC) 505
Hiding from the cops at Newark Airport waiting pick up the wife. I see that Fuck Fredo is changing ALL our money. and ESPN fired Shilling.
And some spineless bastards want to help Hillary get elected? Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 20, 2016 10:52 PM (uBrx7) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:52 PM (/IUtp) 507
498 Well, I chopped up a couple peppers for the chili I am making in the slow cooker. Now my fingers are burning. First time I've used fresh peppers for chili.....
I'm a little worried about how hot the chili is going to be! Posted by: Grey Fox at April 20, 2016 10:49 PM (bZ7mE) Do. Not. Touch. Your. Privates. Posted by: Splunge at April 20, 2016 10:53 PM (iMxBJ) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 20, 2016 10:53 PM (voOPb) 509
Hiding from the cops at Newark Airport waiting pick
up the wife. I see that Fuck Fredo is changing ALL our money. and ESPN fired Shilling. And some spineless bastards want to help Hillary get elected? Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 20, 2016 10:52 PM (uBrx7) Rough night NGU? Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 10:54 PM (nUJM6) 510
I never needed any encouragement in that, I resented the requirement of it at my expense. Big difference between buying a book on the Menstrual Rituals and Habits of the Pueblo Tribe and being forced to buy a book on the Menstrual Rituals and Habits of the Pueblo Tribe.
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:47 PM (4bzP6) I'm not talking about that shit (which I've never read, and never will). I'm talking about everything from Aristotle to Plato to Beowulf to Chaucer to Shakespeare to Locke to Hume to Burke to Montesquieu to Kant to Hegel to ... well, you get the idea. And to that list I'd thrown in Feynmann. Unless and until you've read all of them, IMO you can't consider yourself educated. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:54 PM (oKE6c) Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 20, 2016 10:54 PM (YJmuy) 512
Choose wisely.
Posted by: Divergent at April 20, 2016 10:55 PM (DXFk8) 513
Did your daughter take the AP tests at the end of the AP classes?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:52 PM (dpnZC) Why would think that even matters. It's about KNOWLEDGE, not coursework. Does someone have the knowledge to skip courses that the university wants to charge her $4,000@ for? The AP exams are standardized exams that mean one who takes them doesn't have to say anything else. That person's level of knowledge in that field is well documented by their test. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 10:55 PM (zc3Db) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:55 PM (/IUtp) 515
another day, another lecture
Posted by: concrete girl at April 20, 2016 10:56 PM (ceWrl) 516
500 In the bigs? Teaching a STEM subject? Where world class research, and lots of it, are expected?
*nods proudly* Posted by: Prof. Michael Mann at April 20, 2016 10:50 PM (QDYBM) Penn State is to the bigs in academia as the San Diego Padres are to MLB. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:56 PM (oKE6c) 517
I remember the same thing, only it was Ish KAbibble! Posted by: Mimzey This guy? https://www.google.com/#q=ish+kabibble Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 20, 2016 10:56 PM (k4M/B) 518
514 "Some like them and others don't "
Well, that's a truth. Some like, some don't. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:55 PM (/IUtp) Ah, the First Law of Sociology. Some do, some don't. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:57 PM (oKE6c) 519
That's fine and dandy but it seems to me that you don't really understand the reason that colleges and universities exist. You seem to think that it is the student's responsibility to make college a worthwhile experience. That's funny ... that a student would cough up tens of thousands of dollars to have to work around the college offerings in order to find something interesting. I taught at universities for quite a few years and I can tell you, without any doubt, that most of the functions of universities are useless and wasteful, and many of the students have no business being there in the first place (not to mention a large number of faculty and whole departments) and less getting a degree. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 10:47 PM (zc3Db) Not to work AROUND the college, but instead to take advantage of the many opportunities that a college offers that may not be explicitly listed in the stated program of study given in the course catalog. I would compare, broadly speaking, a student's experience at a college, to being a passenger on a cruise ship. You can choose to just stay on the boat the whole time, or you can choose to get off the boat and explore the different ports of call. The cruise line management doesn't require you or force you to disembark, it just gives you the opportunity to do so. If you choose not to, that's fine, but honestly, if that's your choice, you aren't getting the most out of your cruise. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:57 PM (dpnZC) 520
Does your school allow you to see your graded result when you 'Test' out of a course, jeff?
Because the U of Az wouldn't show you your graded exam and wouldn't hear appeals to placement results. My math Profs advised me to test out because I knew the materials, cold. Took the test. Aced it. No question. Easy shit. Got my result : Rejected. Please pay the bill for 3 Semesters of repetitive coursework. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 10:57 PM (4bzP6) Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 10:58 PM (A5Xf+) 522
(focus on learning and critical thinking instead of) fucking cock sucking
----------- Actually that seems that it would be a good subject in junior colleges. The last two decades have seen a serious decline in this skill set. Posted by: RioBravo at April 20, 2016 10:58 PM (NUqwG) 523
Did your daughter take the AP tests at the end of the AP classes?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:52 PM (dpnZC) Oops. My mistake above. I read your question backwards. Momentary dyslexia. Never mind what I wrote. I agree with you that AP classes are meaningless. Only the AP tests should matter to colleges - though students should be able to test out of course AT the college, too. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 10:58 PM (zc3Db) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:59 PM (/IUtp) 525
The fact that universities are even willing to grant college credit for highschool classes, or results from standardized tests, speaks against your assertion. Did your daughter take the AP tests at the end of the AP classes? Furthermore, what some highschools call "HONORS" really aren't honors-level work at all by any sort of rigorous standard. Maybe your daughter's highschool honors experience was awesome, but lots of highschools' honors experiences aren't. That being said, there are some colleges out there that really do pad their general studies curriculum. It's up to the conscientious student to choose the college based on the general studies experience that he/she most desires. Believe it or not, colleges do compete against each other, just like all businesses compete against each other, with some offering one type of service and some offering another type of service. If you want the super-huge general studies experience, go there. If you want the minimalist general studies experience, go to that one instead.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:52 PM (dpnZC) ***** Wow. Yeah, she took them and aced them. She went into them assured that her chosen school (Alabama, the big one) would accept the hours. She is going to get them, but only because a very pissed off father flew over there one Monday morning and laid out the whole case, with full backup and the number of my lawyer hanging off of my fingertip. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 10:59 PM (YLidQ) 526
524 "Ah, the First Law of Sociology. Some do, some don't."
This really does sum it up. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 10:59 PM (/IUtp) For some reason, sociologists take offense at this joke. Maybe because it's not entirely a joke. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:00 PM (oKE6c) 527
Why would think that even matters. It's about KNOWLEDGE, not coursework. Does someone have the knowledge to skip courses that the university wants to charge her $4,000@ for? The AP exams are standardized exams that mean one who takes them doesn't have to say anything else. That person's level of knowledge in that field is well documented by their test. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 10:55 PM (zc3Db) Standardized exams are a way to assess a student's knowledge of the subject matter. If the university was only interested in making money off people wasting time in useless classes that they didn't need to be in, why would they give students the option of testing out of those classes in the first place? Wouldn't the university then be undercutting their own profit margin? Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:00 PM (dpnZC) 528
"I would compare, broadly speaking, a student's experience at a college, to being a passenger on a cruise ship. You can choose to just stay on the boat the whole time, or you can choose to get off the boat and explore the different ports of call. The cruise line management doesn't require you or force you to disembark, it just gives you the opportunity to do so. If you choose not to, that's fine, but honestly, if that's your choice, you aren't getting the most out of your cruise. "
I'll spend $1500 on the cruise and save the remaining $30K to do shit. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:01 PM (/IUtp) 529
I'm not talking about that shit (which I've never read, and never will). I'm talking about everything from Aristotle to Plato to Beowulf to Chaucer to Shakespeare to Locke to Hume to Burke to Montesquieu to Kant to Hegel to ... well, you get the idea.
I do. And I did. Still do. (Except Feynman - But I will) All about reading. Always was. Just about everything I could get my hands on since I was a kid. But learning is more than reading and exposure. Experience is a big part of it. That is entirely up to the instructor and many are just there to keep from getting a real job. No doubt, some are there for the cute and naive co-eds, too. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 11:03 PM (4bzP6) 530
Everybody pass out?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:04 PM (/IUtp) 531
I'm not talking about that shit (which I've never read, and never will). I'm talking about everything from Aristotle to Plato to Beowulf to Chaucer to Shakespeare to Locke to Hume to Burke to Montesquieu to Kant to Hegel to ... well, you get the idea.
I do. And I did. Still do. (Except Feynman - But I will) All about reading. Always was. Just about everything I could get my hands on since I was a kid. Great. As a wise man once said, "education is futile except in those happy cases where it is superfluous." Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:05 PM (oKE6c) 532
Still here. Just lurking.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:07 PM (A5Xf+) 533
Wow. Yeah, she took them and aced them. She went into them assured that her chosen school (Alabama, the big one) would accept the hours. She is going to get them, but only because a very pissed off father flew over there one Monday morning and laid out the whole case, with full backup and the number of my lawyer hanging off of my fingertip. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 10:59 PM (YLidQ) This isn't at all intended to be insulting. I haven't met you or your daughter at all. I don't know anything about her academic credentials other than what you tell me. It sounds like she is a bright woman, and that is commendable. But in all honesty, not everyone who takes an AP class is a bright student, and not everyone who enrolls in a highschool honors class really is an honors student by any rigorous standard. I would also say that this is one of the problems of going to a large state school. They benefit from students attending the school just due to its name, and so they have less pressure from competition from other colleges which may offer a superior product but don't have the same type of brand recognition that the large state school has. So they are some of the ones most guilty of padding their general studies curriculum and making it overly broad just because they can. That is the type of response of any large institution that suffers a degree of immunity from competition (the government is also another one). But in the case of colleges, the savvy consumer can shop around and find the one that has the general studies experience that is most appealing to that student, and doesn't have to settle for whatever Big State U. has to offer. And sometimes it is just thick-headed bureaucratic administrators who don't know what they are doing, when the stated academic policy says something much different. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:07 PM (dpnZC) 534
Save us ONT
Posted by: ThunderB at April 20, 2016 11:07 PM (zOTsN) 535
Thanks for all the Hillsdale plugs. I figured.
Me, I'm down on the whole university experience. I went to work right out of high school, then later to the university, but did not finish. I've been making 6 figures for over 13 years and I'm only 50. I'm also a non college graduate VP at a 100 million $ tech company. College is a waste unless you study a STEM degree in my fucking opinion. Posted by: Al Swearengen at April 20, 2016 11:08 PM (qHGPV) 536
""education is futile except in those happy cases where it is superfluous."
If anyone here can teach me Algebra I'd be grateful. I have no use for it in daily life but it would be nice. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:09 PM (/IUtp) 537
hello RK, greetings from Hereford, AZ
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 20, 2016 11:09 PM (v9d0Z) 538
If anyone here can teach me Algebra I'd be grateful. I have no use for it in daily life but it would be nice.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:09 PM (/IUtp) Well, I'm sure your local community college offers a college algebra class.... Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:09 PM (dpnZC) 539
chemy, you teach Algebra?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:10 PM (/IUtp) 540
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 10:57 PM (dpnZC)
College is not a cruise ship and students are not tourists. Also, college forces too much crap on students for no reason (other than racking up big bills for the school) and doesn't allow other students to actually spend their time doing what they really want to do. The college, of course, knows better about what the poor, retarded student needs to know. LOL. Most university degrees are total jokes that represent nothing but the willingness of some idiot to pay "employment extortion". 80% of university departments can and should be eliminated. They are intellectual offenses. Universities, these days, accept people coming from city schools who never should have been let out of high school. And not just the crappy universities. Even the good ones accept a bunch of idiots to satisfy their bean counting and to help fill interest in their ridiculous and useless departments. Shit, Hah-vahd and Princeton went to war over friggin Cornell West. The guy is a total imbecile who shouldn't even be allowed to say the word "academic" but two of the best universities int he world had a knock-down drag-out fight to steal this useless piece of shit from each other. That pretty much says it all. And we see Barky and the standards of the Hah-vahd Lawn School ... They've made jokes of themselves and the schools are all charging outrageous amounts climbing ever faster the more ridiculous they get. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 11:10 PM (zc3Db) 541
I learned a lot in college. Of what I wanted to learn. But damn little I really did with it, of course. Well, a math/physics "brain training" does really help you properly, well, know how to set up a problem to solve.
However, all the useful shit, the everyday shit you need to know, I learned from family and friends. For example, when my mother was in that damned nursing home for knee surgery rehab (her stupid idea), I was amazed at the general incompetence abounding. They had some little ice thingy that circulated ice water in a little pad, which you wrapped around the part in need. Fancy type of ice pack. Well, the idiots there couldn't get that set up right half the time for my mother. They wouldn't plug in the little hoses right, or plug in the power cord. One even just dumped ice in the container with no water. It couldn't pump ice, of course. And then the damn sink in the bathroom had a little malfunction. The stopper thingy, you know the thing you pull up, it wouldn't stay up, just would fall down. Those idiots couldn't handle that. I simply laid down under the sink and tightened up the little hand nut that held it. They couldn't figure that shit out. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 11:11 PM (DW+jj) 542
539
chemy, you teach Algebra? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:10 PM (/IUtp) No I don't, and even if I did I doubt I could do a good job teaching algebra via Minx 0.9. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:11 PM (dpnZC) 543
536 ""education is futile except in those happy cases where it is superfluous." If anyone here can teach me Algebra I'd be grateful. I have no use for it in daily life but it would be nice. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:09 PM (/IUtp) Algebra? x=7 and y=11 Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:12 PM (MQEz6) 544
"hello RK, greetings from Hereford, AZ"
Jinx, you headed East or West? I assume East. Friday or Saturday? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:14 PM (/IUtp) 545
Algebra is useless without pi.
Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2016 11:14 PM (+E2Y7) 546
Period shaming is what I did to Megyn. Nobody quotes me without my permission--nobody.
And it worked, believe me. She crawled up here on her knees begging for forgiveness. And a tampon. The women--they love me. Posted by: Donald F. Troop, Small Businessman at April 20, 2016 11:15 PM (Ndje9) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:15 PM (/IUtp) 548
If anyone here can teach me Algebra I'd be grateful. I have no use for it in daily life but it would be nice.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:09 PM (/IUtp) Well, I'm sure your local community college offers a college algebra class.... Posted by: chemjeff But will a community college offer the experience of life as the liberal institution deems it to be? Because, Heaven forbid a student attends higher leaning for an academic reason only. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:15 PM (A5Xf+) 549
I'll be her tampon.
Posted by: Prince Charles at April 20, 2016 11:16 PM (DW+jj) 550
West, my friend. Next week sometime, but I have to shake something I picked up along the way.
I got into a toxic mixture of ammonia and dust while driving through the towns of Hereford, Bovina and Clovis. It has killed my lungs for the time being. Lying low to let it pass. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 20, 2016 11:16 PM (v9d0Z) 551
ONT?
Posted by: Corona at April 20, 2016 11:16 PM (ragzU) 552
If anyone here can teach me Algebra I'd be grateful. I have no use for it in daily life but it would be nice.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:09 PM (/IUtp) Khan Academy is a superb (and free) resource for peopled wanting to learn any sort of math at all. https://www.khanacademy.org/ If you have a particular problem, I would be glad to work through it with you Posted by: redbanzai at April 20, 2016 11:17 PM (nUJM6) 553
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 11:10 PM (zc3Db) Students are customers of a university that is offering a large menu of opportunities and experiences for its customers, of which a formal academic curriculum is only one component. It is the major component, no doubt, but it is not the entirety of what students are paying for. If you go to college and do nothing but go to class and then go home, you aren't getting the most out of it, IMHO. You are perfectly free to make that choice if you wish, of course. The college, of course, knows better about what the poor, retarded student needs to know. LOL. Umm, yes. Students aren't generally "retarded", but there is a reason why students are students and professors are professors. Now, there are actually colleges out there that let students design their own curricula. They tend to be of the loopy left-wing all-SJW-all-the-time variety. But if that's what you really want, hey, go for it! Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:17 PM (dpnZC) 554
Standardized exams are a way to assess a student's knowledge of the subject matter. If the university was only interested in making money off people wasting time in useless classes that they didn't need to be in, why would they give students the option of testing out of those classes in the first place? Wouldn't the university then be undercutting their own profit margin?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:00 PM (dpnZC) So they charge you to test out, refuse to let you see the results of your test, tell you that failed, and require you to take the course anyway. Double profit! Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2016 11:17 PM (UsLZp) 555
But in all honesty, not
everyone who takes an AP class is a bright student, and not everyone who enrolls in a highschool honors class really is an honors student by any rigorous standard. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:07 PM (dpnZC)I have a different take: an AP class may not be relevant at all to a university-level class. After a lecture I had a student at a top tier university bleat that his counselor is forcing him to take my course, which he shouldn't have to take a course because he has AP credit. (Fine - I don't give a shit. So there's 299 spotty faces in the lecture hall instead of 300? OK by me.) I handed the bright young spark the chalk, and directed him to the board: "Great. Derive the Clausius-Clapeyron equation from the total differential of free energy, because that's what I'm going to lecture on next time" before fielding the next question. Never saw him again. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:17 PM (oKE6c) 556
Leaning=learning.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:18 PM (A5Xf+) 557
e^(pi*i) + 1 = 0. Dammit.
The action is stationary. That's basically all there is, plus some details and shit. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 11:18 PM (DW+jj) 558
>>>Note: Never comment on a post more than three days old. There's a auto-ban widget running that bans IPs for that -- not because I don't want comments on old threads, but because spammers have littered all old threads with sometimes literally thousands of spam advertisements for Lace Wigs and the like.
You know who wears lace wigs? Ted Cruz Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2016 11:18 PM (R+30W) 559
But will a community college offer the experience of life as the liberal institution deems it to be? Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:15 PM (A5Xf+) No. And community colleges don't offer bachelor's degrees, either. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:18 PM (dpnZC) 560
>>>Algebra is useless without pi.
Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2016 11:14 PM (+E2Y7)<<< Wonders if there is a "Pi Girl" somewhere, too...
Posted by: I dream of 561
The college, of course, knows better about what the poor, retarded student needs to know. LOL.
Umm, yes. Students aren't generally "retarded", but there is a reason why students are students and professors are professors. Does the Marine Corps let recruits decide what they need to know? Or do they have drill instructors to "help" them with that? (Personal note: my father had been a DI.) Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:20 PM (oKE6c) 562
So is this the ONT tonight?
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:20 PM (ntObR) 563
>>So they charge you to test out, refuse to let you see the results of your test, tell you that failed, and require you to take the course anyway. Double profit!
That's good work if you can get it. Posted by: Underwear Gnome at April 20, 2016 11:20 PM (4bzP6) 564
I wore a lace wig, and if you say anything about it, I'll shoot you dead like I did that no-good sumbitch Alexander Hamilton.
Posted by: Aaron Burr at April 20, 2016 11:20 PM (DW+jj) 565
This isn't at all intended to be insulting. I haven't met you or your daughter at all. I don't know anything about her academic credentials other than what you tell me. It sounds like she is a bright woman, and that is commendable. But in all honesty, not everyone who takes an AP class is a bright student, and not everyone who enrolls in a highschool honors class really is an honors student by any rigorous standard.
I would also say that this is one of the problems of going to a large state school. They benefit from students attending the school just due to its name, and so they have less pressure from competition from other colleges which may offer a superior product but don't have the same type of brand recognition that the large state school has. So they are some of the ones most guilty of padding their general studies curriculum and making it overly broad just because they can. That is the type of response of any large institution that suffers a degree of immunity from competition (the government is also another one). But in the case of colleges, the savvy consumer can shop around and find the one that has the general studies experience that is most appealing to that student, and doesn't have to settle for whatever Big State U. has to offer. And sometimes it is just thick-headed bureaucratic administrators who don't know what they are doing, when the stated academic policy says something much different. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:07 PM (dpnZC) ***** I appreciate the well thought out response. Not joking there. Posted by: Tim in GA at April 20, 2016 11:21 PM (YLidQ) 566
(Personal note: my father had been a DI.)
Jay, how much of his DI skills did your dad use raising you? Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:21 PM (ntObR) Posted by: Puddleglum at April 20, 2016 11:22 PM (QKBK3) 568
Those idiots couldn't handle that. I simply laid down under the sink and tightened up the little hand nut that held it. They couldn't figure that shit out.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 11:11 PM (DW+jj) You stole the job of a union plumber? Oh, the humanity! Hospitals are usually bedeviled by numerous unions with ironclad jurisdictions. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2016 11:22 PM (UsLZp) 569
545 Algebra is useless without pi.
Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2016 11:14 PM (+E2Y7) ++++ That's not true at all. Now if you said trig, ok. But algebra? There are lots of things done with algebra that don't come close to using pi. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2016 11:22 PM (R+30W) 570
No. And community colleges don't offer bachelor's degrees, either.
Posted by: chemjeff True. How someone can make it through life with only an associates degree is beyond me. How do they know what to think? Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:22 PM (A5Xf+) 571
So this is the ONT. Okay.
Hey everybody. Dealing with a bad bout of sciatica today in my left side. Owie zowie zowie. :-( Funny thing though: I've also been constipated a few days and just read my conditions may very well be linked. So, took some meds and hoping I can get my colon revved up again soon. (I know, TMI. Sorry.) Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:23 PM (ntObR) 572
Sorry, I meant that maybe they still don't wear jeans. Or anything else. 'Cause, you know, solidarity.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 10:37 PM --- I'm afraid to ask what they're doing now.... Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 20, 2016 11:23 PM (AHDxb) 573
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:17 PM (oKE6c)
Wait, you had a student demanding that his highschool AP credit covered calculus-based thermodynamics? Yeah, that is kinda dumb. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:23 PM (dpnZC) 574
>> mmmmmmm....Kathryn Tappen............
"I'd Rather be Tappin' Kathryn Tappen" That's a Bumpersticker. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 11:24 PM (4bzP6) 575
True. How someone can make it through life with only an associates degree is beyond me. How do they know what to think?
(((sobs and runs away))) Posted by: qdp "Mr. Stupid with just his Associates from Long Beach City College" steve at April 20, 2016 11:24 PM (ntObR) 576
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:23 PM (ntObR)
I'm sorry to hear that, qdpsteve But, look on the bright side, I understand that Ace might have an "explosive" remedy for you Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:24 PM (dpnZC) Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:25 PM (/IUtp) 578
Hey everybody. Dealing with a bad bout of sciatica today in my left side. Owie zowie zowie. :-(
Funny thing though: I've also been constipated a few days and just read my conditions may very well be linked. So, took some meds and hoping I can get my colon revved up again soon. (I know, TMI. Sorry.) Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:23 PM --- Do you have an exercise ball? Those helped me when my sciatica acted up. You don't really exercise, you just sort of do stretches that look really, really obscene. Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 20, 2016 11:25 PM (AHDxb) 579
They wear chaps in solidarity now.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 20, 2016 11:25 PM (k4M/B) 580
So is this the ONT tonight?
Posted by: qdpsteve Sorry Steve, but this thread seems to be running on a loop. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:25 PM (A5Xf+) Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:25 PM (dpnZC) 582
chemjeff, at this point I'd insert an actual explosive device up there if it would help relieve the sciatica.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:25 PM (ntObR) 583
What's the use of a number w/o a defintive value?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:25 PM (/IUtp) Oh it has a definitive value. It just can't be expressed with a finite number of digits. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:25 PM (dpnZC) 584
Umm, yes. Students aren't generally "retarded", but there is a reason why students are students and professors are professors.
Administrators are not professors and college administrators tend to know less than nothing. Now, there are actually colleges out there that let students design their own curricula. They tend to be of the loopy left-wing all-SJW-all-the-time variety. But if that's what you really want, hey, go for it! Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:17 PM (dpnZC) I'm not talking about the student designing his own curriculum. I'm talking about the college forcing bullshit , useless course on the student and also treating the students as if they are too dumb to make any decisions. And all this junk about college being about more than just learning ... yeah, that's just crap. College is about learning. Period. Not partying. Not socializing. Not any of the other bullshit. From the students' points of view, colleges are about learning and helping to train people for certain academic fields. That's it. From the colleges' points of view, they are to make enough money to support people who are good enough to do important research in their areas. Most of these researchers have to teach a little bit (both to satisfy the college and to help attract quality students) but the researchers' main task is to do good research and make the college an attractive place to attract even better researchers. Those are the two functions of a university (from the two points of view that matter) and the only real purposes of it to exist. Nothing else matters. College is not supposed to be a "life experience". It's about learning for the students and researching/discovering for the top faculty. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 11:26 PM (zc3Db) 585
3.141592653589793
That's how many digits I know from rote. Impressed? I know, they lied to me when they said they would impress the hot chicks. I think they were playing a joke on me..... Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 11:26 PM (DW+jj) 586
Wow! This IS a smart military blog!
Posted by: I is a college stoodient at April 20, 2016 11:26 PM (DXFk8) 587
shibumi, no but I read that some tennis balls can help.
I tried 'em and they did help... but only while I was actually on top of them. Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:26 PM (ntObR) 588
mmmmmmm....Kathryn Tappen............
"I'd Rather be Tappin' Kathryn Tappen" That's a Bumpersticker. Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2016 11:24 PM (4bzP6) So, um, how come when you google her you get a bunch of images of hockey players? Posted by: Blano at April 20, 2016 11:27 PM (heN73) 589
"Oh it has a definitive value. It just can't be expressed with a finite number of digits."
So what factor of pi do you figure to to prevent the destruction of the world ? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 20, 2016 11:28 PM (/IUtp) 590
566 (Personal note: my father had been a DI.)
Jay, how much of his DI skills did your dad use raising you? Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:21 PM (ntObR) Surprisingly enough, none that you might expect. Quite the contrary, in fact, and he did not push me to enter the Marine Corps. (We once talked about that, many years after the operative period, and he said that they wouldn't have known what to do with me anyway.) He did instill in me a sense of honor, and duty, and patriotism, but my psychopathologies are all sui generis. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:28 PM (oKE6c) 591
True. How someone can make it through life with only an associates degree is beyond me. How do they know what to think?
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:22 PM (A5Xf+) Oh sigh. That's not the point. The point of the general studies requirement of a bachelor's degree is to broaden a student's horizons. Furthermore, there is quite a lot of variation from college to college on how broad that experience has to be. You can choose the overly broad and obviously padded general studies experience, or you can choose the barely-broad-enough minimalist experience, based on which college you choose to attend. If you don't want that experience AT ALL, then don't get a bachelor's degree. It isn't at all about telling people "what to think". Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:28 PM (dpnZC) 592
So, um, how come when you google her you get a bunch of images of hockey players?
Posted by: Blano Because your doing it wrong? Posted by: Puddleglum at April 20, 2016 11:29 PM (QKBK3) 593
Everyone should go to college or risk being stuck in Iraq... again... now that we are going back in... because Obama abandoned it...
Posted by: Lurch Kerry at April 20, 2016 11:29 PM (H9MG5) 594
And aunt of my mine went off some damn yankee place for college, and got a job working as a typing girl at some damn plant/factory a few hours a week or on the weekend or something.
She needed to move an electric typewriter from one desk to another and simply did it. Her boss saw her and had a flying shit fit. He made her put it back and hoped the hell no one saw it. In a panic he explained how she could've just caused a union shutdown of the place. They had to get an electrician to come unplug the damn thing from the wall. Then a maintenance man had to come actually move the thing. Then the electrician had to come back and plug it back in. They would have had a work stoppage over that. Fuck the unions, was her lesson learned from that. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 20, 2016 11:30 PM (DW+jj) 595
It isn't at all about telling people "what to think".
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:28 PM (dpnZC) ++++ Nonsense. It isn't entirely about telling people what to think, but that is definitely in the mix. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 20, 2016 11:31 PM (R+30W) 596
Jay, interesting.
My dad was at Fort Ord in 1962 as a reservist. Judging by how he raised me and my sisters, I think he wished he *was* a DI. (He once claimed that if a private fell asleep standing at attention in the morning, they'd wake him up by smashing a rifle butt into his head.) Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:31 PM (ntObR) 597
Heat Street? Don't even. Looked at that site the other day (won't make that mistake again). Its basically REpublican SJWs. pretty pathetic
Posted by: Ben H at April 20, 2016 11:31 PM (gJEsZ) 598
Oh corgi's!
Posted by: speedster1 at April 20, 2016 11:31 PM (vUcdz) 599
True. How someone can make it through life with only an associates degree is beyond me. How do they know what to think?
(((sobs and runs away))) Posted by: qdp "Mr. Stupid with just his Associates from Long Beach City College" Please check yourself into an approved university safe space post haste. Oh wait, take out a sixty thousand dollar student loan first. Then you will know what is appropriate "learning". Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:32 PM (A5Xf+) 600
For a Chemistry student seeking a Bachelor's degree I would have them take 4 years of chemistry, math, and physics, with plenty of lab work mixed in.
To broaden their horizens I would give them a list of things to do and read and see. On their own. Charging Chemistry students money to make them read poetry is a crime. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:33 PM (MQEz6) 601
College is about learning. Period.
No. That is a technical school or vocational school. That isn't "college". If you want the purely technical learning aspect, then do that. No one is forcing you to go to college. If you want to go to college and only take the classes that you want to take, then do that. No college will stop you from only taking the classes that you want to take. But if you want a *bachelor's degree*, which is a degree that certifies *not just* proficiency in a specialized field of study, but also a breadth of knowledge to make a person a more well-informed citizen, then yeah, you gotta do the general studies stuff. But if you don't want a bachelor's degree? Then don't get one. And I didn't bring up the "partying" or "socializing" aspect of college at all, you did. That isn't at all what I mean by the larger college experience. I was specifically referring to things like independent research projects, not "partying at the frat house". Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:33 PM (dpnZC) 602
AmeriDan, was making a funny.
Anyway because I live close to CSULB and had a 2.0 average in high school, I've been informed that I get automatic entrance into any non-impacted major. But given what I've read about the environment on these campuses today, I'm not sure I ever want to go now. Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:34 PM (ntObR) 603
Of course, there's the ONT.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:35 PM (ntObR) 604
Charging Chemistry students money to make them read poetry is a crime.
Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:33 PM (MQEz6) I used to think that way, when I was an undergraduate. But then I got out into the "real world", and I found it difficult to hold a conversation with non-chemists when they don't know anything about chemistry. And then I said to myself, "gee, I wish I had learned something interesting in college that wasn't all just chemistry". Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:36 PM (dpnZC) 605
My dad was at Fort Ord in 1962 as a reservist. Judging by how he raised me and my sisters, I think he wished he *was* a DI.
(He once claimed that if a private fell asleep standing at attention in the morning, they'd wake him up by smashing a rifle butt into his head.) Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:31 PM (ntObR) Yow. My father was special in that respect. He'd seen the elephant - he'd received a battlefield commission on Iwo Jima, kept it after the war, and ultimately retired as a field grade officer - but he belied the stereotype, and recognized that I was - how can I put this? - destined for other things, and supported me 100%. God, how I miss him. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:36 PM (oKE6c) 606
Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:33 PM (dpnZC)
That is the old model. It does not work well at all. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:37 PM (MQEz6) 607
Posted by: chemjeff
Sigh all you want. That does not change the fact that a college degree does not prepare you for the real world. It will hopefully educate you, but it will not ever give you a real world experience. I'm only commenting with you in a light hearted debate type way. I hope you see it the same. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:38 PM (A5Xf+) 608
604 Charging Chemistry students money to make them read poetry is a crime.
Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:33 PM (MQEz6) I used to think that way, when I was an undergraduate. But then I got out into the "real world", and I found it difficult to hold a conversation with non-chemists when they don't know anything about chemistry. And then I said to myself, "gee, I wish I had learned something interesting in college that wasn't all just chemistry". Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:36 PM (dpnZC) You could have learned those things other ways. Perhaps have even learned them better. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:39 PM (MQEz6) 609
604 Charging Chemistry students money to make them read poetry is a crime.
Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:33 PM (MQEz6) I used to think that way, when I was an undergraduate. But then I got out into the "real world", and I found it difficult to hold a conversation with non-chemists when they don't know anything about chemistry. And then I said to myself, "gee, I wish I had learned something interesting in college that wasn't all just chemistry". Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:36 PM (dpnZC) I don't want to come out of the closet here, but when I was teaching in Europe many was the time when, interacting with arts dons, I was grateful for having read extensively outside of math, chemistry, and physics. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:39 PM (oKE6c) 610
But if you want a *bachelor's degree*, which is a degree that certifies *not just* proficiency in a specialized field of study, but also a breadth of knowledge to make a person a more well-informed citizen,
Puh-lllleeeeeaaaaassssse. Funny how you use the word "citizen" in there. What the hell is that all about? Lots of students at our universities aren't even citizens, here, so what's up with that? And the "well-informed" part is sufficiently condescending for the university set. I mean, really. then yeah, you gotta do the general studies stuff. But if you don't want a bachelor's degree? Then don't get one. Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:33 PM (dpnZC) Well, nowadays the opportunity to skip college is available to many more, thanks to standardized exams in the IT industry that can help people get into the business without having to go through the highway theft of college tuition and $400 textbooks (full of shit that is no different than the 38 past editions which are no longer accepted for the class). Colleges are losing their hold on the employment market. It hasn't happened totally, but it is moving towards that. Sadly, these days, you still need a college degree for most things (to get started) even though most of those degrees are totally worthless (in and of themselves) and the price on them is enough to get most business people jailed on fraud in that same circumstance. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 11:41 PM (zc3Db) 611
True. How someone can make it through life with only an associates degree is beyond me. How do they know what to think?
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:22 PM (A5Xf+) That's what their parole officer is for. Posted by: BurtTC at April 20, 2016 11:41 PM (Dj0WE) 612
Oh sigh. That's not the point. The point of the general studies requirement of a bachelor's degree is to broaden a student's horizons. Furthermore, there is quite a lot of variation from college to college on how broad that experience has to be. You can choose the overly broad and obviously padded general studies experience, or you can choose the barely-broad-enough minimalist experience, based on which college you choose to attend.
If you don't want that experience AT ALL, then don't get a bachelor's degree. It isn't at all about telling people "what to think". Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:28 PM (dpnZC) ____ Word! Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 20, 2016 11:42 PM (0LHZx) 613
You could have learned those things other ways.
Perhaps have even learned them better. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:39 PM (MQEz6) Maybe, but the critical piece is learning that you have something to learn. That's the crunch; after that, it's easy. I used to view my job in lecturing as acting as a tour guide, pointing out features of interest and importance to the audience, and relating them to the overall picture. The amount I could actually impart in an hour was negligible; I viewed my job as indicating which aspects deserved more personal attention from the students themselves, when the real learning would take place. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:42 PM (oKE6c) 614
Posted by: qdpsteve
Oh, I know you were just funning. As I was in the original comment and the comment in reply to you. It's all good. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:43 PM (A5Xf+) 615
AmeriDan, cool :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 20, 2016 11:43 PM (ntObR) Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:45 PM (A5Xf+) 617
I used to think that way, when I was an undergraduate.
But then I got out into the "real world", and I found it difficult to hold a conversation with non-chemists when they don't know anything about chemistry. And then I said to myself, "gee, I wish I had learned something interesting in college that wasn't all just chemistry". Posted by: chemjeff at April 20, 2016 11:36 PM (dpnZC) LOL. And because of that you have come to the conclusion that you need to force people to waste tons of money on stupid, useless stuff. Okie doke, there. That's some great reasoning jeff ... really. As if anyone stopped you from reading other shit ... This sort of justification for abusing college students really ticks me off. Just so that you can have a conversation. FFS, man. Do you even listen to yourself? Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 20, 2016 11:45 PM (zc3Db) 618
"Colleges are losing their hold on the employment market. It hasn't happened totally, but it is moving towards that"
On what planet? The opposite is happening. Jobs that needed a BA 20 years ago now need a Master's. By the way take a look at unemployment by education level. Even during the worst of the 2008/2009 recession, unemployment for those with a college degree didn't go above 6%, while the overall rate was in double digits. Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 20, 2016 11:46 PM (0LHZx) 619
Sadly, these days, you still need a college degree for most things (to get started) even though most of those degrees are totally worthless (in and of themselves) and the price on them is enough to get most business people jailed on fraud in that same circumstance.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair But, but, how will the young'ns know how to talk to the rubes if they aren't taught how to in university? Posted by: AmeriDan at April 20, 2016 11:52 PM (A5Xf+) 620
LOL. And because of that you have come to the conclusion that you need
to force people to waste tons of money on stupid, useless stuff. Okie doke, there. That's some great reasoning jeff ... really. As if anyone stopped you from reading other shit ... My God, I'm defending chemjeff. I don't feel so good ... Still, no Muslims involved, so it's not too bad. The problem is determining what to read. Descartes, or Harold Robbins? Locke, or "Dreams From My Father, Who Could Not Figure Out How To Put On A Condom?" It's worthwhile having in hand the considered opinion of others on what reading is most beneficial, and most important to understanding our culture, and who and where we are. (I write from the pre-Obama, non-Alinksy perspective.) There's an enormous amount of writing out there, far more than any one person could read, so having some guidance on what is more worthwhile is invaluable. And I'm guessing that the average 18 year old is not fully au fait with the works of the great thinkers. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:54 PM (oKE6c) 621
On average a college grade makes $1M more over a lifetime compared to someone w/o a degree. So even if the cost of the degree is $100K+, it's a hell of a good investment.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 20, 2016 11:55 PM (0LHZx) 622
613 You could have learned those things other ways.
Perhaps have even learned them better. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:39 PM (MQEz6) Maybe, but the critical piece is learning that you have something to learn. That's the crunch; after that, it's easy. I used to view my job in lecturing as acting as a tour guide, pointing out features of interest and importance to the audience, and relating them to the overall picture. The amount I could actually impart in an hour was negligible; I viewed my job as indicating which aspects deserved more personal attention from the students themselves, when the real learning would take place. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 20, 2016 11:42 PM (oKE6c) Well, after realising that you still could have learned those things without paying a college to teach it to you and you could have told young people about the power and joy of learning things in other ways. Thus saving them money and making them more versitile and effective citizens. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:56 PM (MQEz6) 623
LOL. And because of that you have come to the conclusion that you need
to force people to waste tons of money on stupid, useless stuff. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything that they don't want to do. I am the one pointing out, again and again, that if you don't want to take the classes that you believe are useless, then DON'T TAKE THEM. Don't want to take Poetry 101? Then don't take Poetry 101. Don't want to take Lesbian Feminist Xistory 101? Then don't take Lesbian Feminist Xistory 101. What you seem to want, is to be able to take whatever classes you want, AND have your selection of classes validated as equivalent to a bachelor's degree. I even pointed out to you that there are universities out there which actually DO that sort of thing. And even that's not good enough for you. I am not even sure what you really want anymore, other than to just rail against evil colleges. Do you want to force every college to do away with general studies requirements entirely for bachelor's degree requirements? Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:05 AM (uAvJJ) 624
Well, after realising that you still could have learned those things without paying a college to teach it to you and you could have told young people about the power and joy of learning things in other ways. Thus saving them money and making them more versitile and effective citizens. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:56 PM (MQEz6) People are free to do that right now. Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:06 AM (uAvJJ) 625
Well, after realising that you still could have learned those things without paying a college to teach it to you and you could have told young people about the power and joy of learning things in other ways. Thus saving them money and making them more versitile and effective citizens.
Posted by: eman Yep. No matter what your educational status is, you must be able to converse at any level. To deny yourself of the wisdom of all backgrounds by "learning" only at a certain level or above... Is cheating yourself of the diversity of life. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:09 AM (A5Xf+) 626
Well, after realising that you still could have learned those things without paying a college to teach it to you and you could have told young people about the power and joy of learning things in other ways. Thus saving them money and making them more versatile and effective citizens.
Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:56 PM (MQEz6) Realistically, very few people indeed are effective autodidacts without a bit of guidance. For my part, I'm grateful for some direction in what to read, and why, whether or not I agreed with it. It's useful to have some indication on what others consider wheat, and what chaff, even if one later comes to disagree with that assessment. And on a more prosaic level, most people will never read anything, on any level above Hustler, without prompting. I include myself in that group. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 21, 2016 12:11 AM (oKE6c) 627
613 You could have learned those things other ways.
Perhaps have even learned them better. Posted by: eman at April 20, 2016 11:39 PM (MQEz6) Prospective Olympians could train on their own, but don't. Why? Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 21, 2016 12:14 AM (oKE6c) 628
>>>For my part, I'm grateful for some direction in what to read, and why, whether or not I agreed with it.
Direction, yes. No one should be required to pay for that direction though when they are seeking to pay for something completely different. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:15 AM (A5Xf+) 629
Prospective Olympians could train on their own, but don't. Why?
Posted by: Jay Guevara Not getting your point on this. Are you saying a swimmer should also know how to ski? Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:19 AM (A5Xf+) 630
And on a more prosaic level, most people will never read anything, on any level above Hustler, without prompting. I include myself in that group.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 21, 2016 12:11 AM (oKE6c) So what? Forcing people to read a few pieces doesn't make them well-rounded or broaden their horizons, at all. People who are well-rounded are pretty much that way before they get to college. No one comes to college and is totally changed by 40 credits of dogshit courses. I mean, that is funny just to think about. You become well-rounded because you actually have interests in many different things, not because someone told you to read this or that. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 21, 2016 12:20 AM (zc3Db) 631
No one should be required to pay for that direction though when they are seeking to pay for something completely different.
But if you are enrolled as a degree-seeking student at a four-year university, then what you are paying for is the opportunity to earn a bachelor's degree, which includes a general studies requirement. If you don't want the general studies requirement, then you are still free to pay to take whatever class you want, a la carte, just not as a bachelor's degree-seeking student If you don't like your particular university's general studies requirement, believing that it is padded with a bunch of "useless" classes, then shop around and find a university with one that you believe is more reasonable. They aren't all the same you know. Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:21 AM (uAvJJ) 632
... Or that a coach should teach said swimmer how to converse with others in another sport?
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:21 AM (A5Xf+) 633
Forcing people to read a few pieces doesn't make them well-rounded or broaden their horizons, at all.
No one is being forced to read anything. Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:21 AM (uAvJJ) 634
629 Prospective Olympians could train on their own, but don't. Why?
Posted by: Jay Guevara Not getting your point on this. Are you saying a swimmer should also know how to ski? Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:19 AM (A5Xf+) No. I'm saying that a prospective swimmer can benefit from guidance on training from an experienced swimmer, and thereby gain an edge over a swimmer working on his own. Make sense? Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 21, 2016 12:23 AM (oKE6c) 635
No one is being forced to read anything.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:21 AM (uAvJJ) Dude, you're not allowed to lose both sides of the argument. That's selfish. It's forced courses that we have been talking about. I know that you know that. You want to call them "required" courses, instead, to make it sound better ... so that they can fulfill your dream of being able to have conversations with non-chemists ... Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 21, 2016 12:26 AM (zc3Db) 636
So what? Forcing people to read a few pieces doesn't make them
well-rounded or broaden their horizons, at all. People who are well-rounded are pretty much that way before they get to college. Dunno about that. Horse, water, all that. I was like a kid in a candy shop in college. I took courses in everything I could possibly swing, from chemistry to physics to math to English literature to German literature to Russian to Russian literature to philosophy to history to ... whatever. Hell, I enjoy all that stuff now, in my dotage. As for chemistry? I'm bored by it now. The other stuff interests me much more. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 21, 2016 12:28 AM (oKE6c) 637
They aren't all the same you know.
Posted by: chemjeff Point well taken. I just don't care for the thinking that to learn one thing, you should learn this thing that is totally not related to what you seek to learn. I understand that a general knowledge of this and that is a good thing. I just hate seeing general studies become the be all end all of education. At least, that's how it appears to me lately. Students going for general studies and not a particular field of study. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:29 AM (A5Xf+) 638
You want to call them "required" courses, instead,
to make it sound better ... so that they can fulfill your dream of being able to have conversations with non-chemists ... Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 21, 2016 12:26 AM (zc3Db) I'm very grateful - and was grateful at the time - for such required courses. Only the art and music courses struck me then as pointless bullshit, and still do. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 21, 2016 12:30 AM (oKE6c) 639
Posted by: Jay Guevara
Of course a swimmer being trained by a more experienced swimmer would benefit more than self training. I thought we were talking about learning beyond what you want to do. Things that may help you outside of your field as determined by someone else who may or may not be a swimmer... yet still wants you to pay for classes THEY think you need. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:36 AM (A5Xf+) 640
Of course a swimmer being trained by a more experienced swimmer would benefit more than self training.
I thought we were talking about learning beyond what you want to do. Things that may help you outside of your field as determined by someone else who may or may not be a swimmer... yet still wants you to pay for classes THEY think you need. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:36 AM (A5Xf+) But here's the point: what you want to do today may not be what you want to do tomorrow. Presumably a swimmer is interested in swimming because he was exposed to swimming at some point. By induction ... Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 21, 2016 12:39 AM (oKE6c) 641
Sometimes people just like to swim. No need for indoctination. They just jump in and do it and love it.
I'd bet that a person is more into something they stumbled across than something required. That is where universities can be a diverse experience. Say the math geek meets up with the english lit person and they talk amongst themselves. More love of other subjects will happen in this situation verses required study outside of a chosen study. IMHO. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:47 AM (A5Xf+) 642
It's forced courses that we have been talking about.
There is NO SUCH THING as a "forced course". There is a curriculum you must meet if you want a bachelor's degree, but you are not forced to get a bachelor's degree. It seems to me, what you really want, is to redefine the meaning of the word "bachelor's degree" to mean, instead, "technical, vocational training". Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:48 AM (uAvJJ) 643
At least, that's how it appears to me lately. Students going for general studies and not a particular field of study. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:29 AM (A5Xf+) There are a lot of students out there who just seem to wander through college. That isn't good at all, and I can only speak to my university experience, the faculty and staff DON'T want purposeless driftwood students. Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:52 AM (uAvJJ) 644
So a bachelors degree in electrical engineering would be worthless if not for a few general studies classes thrown in?
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:52 AM (A5Xf+) 645
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So a bachelors degree in electrical engineering would be worthless if not for a few general studies classes thrown in? Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:52 AM (A5Xf+) No, it's not "worthless", it's just not a bachelor's degree. It's technical training. That's fine too. If all you want to do is study engineering, then study engineering. You don't have to get a bachelor's degree to do that. Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:55 AM (uAvJJ) 646
That isn't good at all, and I can only speak to my university experience, the faculty and staff DON'T want purposeless driftwood students.
Posted by: chemjeff So why not make them pick a major? With serious students, you don't have to because they already have picked one. Don't drag a future chemist down because other students are adrift. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:57 AM (A5Xf+) 647
There is NO SUCH THING as a "forced course". There is a curriculum you must meet if you want a bachelor's degree, but you are not forced to get a bachelor's degree.
Debating really isn't your thing. You just don't seem to get it. They should have forced you to take debating courses for your B.A. It seems to me, what you really want, is to redefine the meaning of the word "bachelor's degree" to mean, instead, "technical, vocational training". Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:48 AM (uAvJJ) You really have no clue as to what I "really want". You also don't seem to understand what votech is or the difference between a trade and an academic specialty. Do you think all of the current bullshit was required for B.A.s in the past? Other bullshit things were required but a lot of the departments in the current university would have been laughed at 50 years ago - and rightly so - along with most of the actual curricula of the required standards these days. So you can stand on some delusional idea of tradition which bears no connection to reality ... Things have changed with the requirements for bachelor's degrees. They have, sadly, changed for the worse. And B.Sc. degrees aren't much better, name not withstanding. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 21, 2016 12:59 AM (zc3Db) 648
So why not make them pick a major? With serious students, you don't have to because they already have picked one.
Don't drag a future chemist down because other students are adrift. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 12:57 AM (A5Xf+) We do make them pick a major. Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 01:02 AM (uAvJJ) 649
That isn't good at all, and I can only speak to my university experience, the faculty and staff DON'T want purposeless driftwood students.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:52 AM (uAvJJ) LOL. They want students whose skins match up to their quotas. There is no more racist a group on Earth than a university hiring or acceptance committee. It would make most people puke to know the shit that goes one with this lowlifes. Universities have lost all sight of their job to the students to actually educate and to educate those who have shown that they are the most educable that the university can get. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 21, 2016 01:04 AM (zc3Db) 650
I see that the ONT is up...
Chemjeff and Jay, it's been a pleasure debating you both. No minds were changed but it was still invigorating. ThePrimordialOrderedPair, good points made by you tonight and I agree with them all. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 01:08 AM (A5Xf+) 651
Debating really isn't your thing. You just don't seem to get it. They
should have forced you to take debating courses for your B.A. And now you just resort to your usual schtick: when you cannot refute the point, you just bring out the insults. Please describe how you were forced to take Poetry 101. Did men with guns drag you from your house to the classroom? You really have no clue as to what I "really want". You're right, I have no clue what you "really want". It seems that what you are doing is just raging against the evil colleges, complaining about "forced courses". So what is it that you "really want", exactly? Do you think all of the current bullshit was required for B.A.s in the past? I think bachelor's degree, at least for the past 100 years or so, have always had a type of general studies requirement. It hasn't always had the same form, but it has always been about the idea of broadening the student's experience in some manner, to distinguish a bachelor's degree from purely technical, vocational training. Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 01:09 AM (uAvJJ) 652
to distinguish a bachelor's degree from purely technical, vocational training.
Posted by: chemjeff I'll have to say that my respect for a bachelors degree has gone down after tonight. At least as you have decribed it. Posted by: AmeriDan at April 21, 2016 01:24 AM (A5Xf+) 653
That's fine. A bachelor's degree is not for everyone. Neither is purely vocational or technical training.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 01:33 AM (uAvJJ) 654
A bachelor's degree is not for everyone. Neither is purely vocational or technical training.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 01:33 AM (uAvJJ) Geez, jeff. Studying chemistry without having to take a bunch of bullshit courses is NOT merely technical training and it's not even related to vocational. You are thinking of something totally different and confusing yourself. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 21, 2016 02:01 AM (zc3Db) Processing 0.07, elapsed 0.0775 seconds. |
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