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Tuesday Overnight Open Thread - June 17, 2025 [scampydog]

Good evening and thank you for checking in on the Tuesday, ONT. Some random, a few parts science, and 100% why not. Comment section won't bite - probably.

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A bit of good natured fun to get things going.

We need more people like this 🥹🥹 pic.twitter.com/L5msAq8nUa
— non aesthetic things (@PicturesFoIder) June 12, 2025

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Put your arms through the sleeves of your lab coat. It is time for some ONT space and science with our AoSHQ friend and commenter, publius.

Sticking with Tuesday, ONT Science tradition, we are leading off with Feynman.

Feynman wrote a lovely letter to his wife who had passed away at 25 years young.

I know you will assure me that I am foolish and that you want me to have full happiness and don't want to be in my way. I'll bet you are surprised that I don't even have a girlfriend (except you, sweetheart) after two years. But you can't help it, darling, nor can I - I don't understand it, for I have met many girls and very nice ones and I don't want to remain alone - but in two or three meetings they all seem ashes. You only are left to me. You are real.

From publius: "Feynman did remarry, twice. Second ended in divorce, and the third lasted until his death. Here's a picture of him dancing with his third wife at the Nobel Ceremony in 1965. He was clowning a bit there, of course. There's some other pictures of him at the Nobel Ceremony. She died about a year after he did."

Perfect sphere found by astronomers. Riddle was bugging me, so I did what any self respecting Moron would do. I emailed publius.

In data collected by a powerful radio telescope, astronomers have found what appears to be a perfectly spherical bubble. We know more or less what it is - it's the ball of expanding material ejected by an exploding star, a supernova remnant - but how it came to be is more of a puzzle.

Next up we have some (no longer) mystery radio signals.

The source of mystery radio signals in space has finally been identified after almost a decade.
For the past ten years, astronomers have been detecting strange radio signals emitting from space every two hours.
Unfortunately, scientists have already ruled out aliens in this one.

NASA skywatching for the Month of June.

All Month - Planet Visibility:
Venus: Rises about 2 hours before the Sun in June, and shines very brightly, low in the eastern sky, in the morning all month.
Mars: Visible in the west for a couple of hours after sunset all month. Drops lower in the sky as June continues, and passes very close to Regulus in the constellation Leo on June 16 and 17. (They will be about half a degree apart, or the width of the full moon.)
Jupiter: Visible quite low in the west after sunset for the first week of June, then lost in the Sun's glare after. Will re-appear in July in the morning sky.
Mercury: Becomes visible low in the west about 30 to 45 minutes after sunset in the last week and a half of June.
Saturn: Rises around 3 a.m. in early June, and around 1 a.m. by the end of the month. Begins the month near Venus in the dawn sky, but rapidly pulls away, rising higher as June goes on.

More from publius "Venus and Earth's orbital periods have a ratio that is very close to 13:8, meaning Venus completes 13 orbits per 8 earth orbits almost exactly. Venus thus has 5 inferior conjunctions occurring very close to the same point in the sky every 8 years. That works out to a cycle of about 9 months between conjunctions. Since Venus is an inferior planet, we can never see it overhead during the middle of the night, only on the eastern morning or western evening side of the sky close before sunrise or close after sunset.

The window around these inferior conjunctions are when Venus gets close and bright. During a window of several months around the inferior conjunction, Venus first appears bright in the western sky right after sunset when it's on the eastern side of the sun, then disappears into the sun at inferior conjunction. It then quickly whips to the western side of the sun to appear in the early morning, still close and bright. It then continues in its orbit, getting dimmer and father away and closer to the sun in the sky, until it repeats the cycle 9 months later. So Venus flips between "Evening Star" and "Morning Star" modes. Believe it or not, when Venus is near maximum brightness during the Evening and Morning Star modes, they get a lot of UFO reports from those not familiar with what's in the sky above them.

You can plot this from a geocentric reference plane, and see the relative position of Venus and the Sun over this 8 year cycle. Venus' path makes a nice 5-sided pattern centered around the earth, sometimes poetically dubbed the Five-petal Rose of Venus, seen here on this Earthsky page."

Big AoS thank to you publius!

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That's one way to learn.

If you're going to do something stupid please keep your face very far away from it pic.twitter.com/BRJCKTQMnf
— Giga Based Dad (@GigaBasedDad) June 12, 2025

Oh yes! Spaceballs! Mel Brooks with the teaser.

I told you we’d be back pic.twitter.com/RnoklPqBX6
— Mel Brooks (@MelBrooks) June 12, 2025

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Liberals and Safe Spaces

Merriam-Webster defines safe space as: a place (as on a college campus) intended to be free of bias, conflict, criticism, or potentially threatening actions, ideas, or conversations.

Sure doesn't look like they have much conviction with that definition. These ICE/No Kings/Antifa/Commie/Leftist rioters are up in everyone's face (with theirs covered, just like their Klan predecessors) - not exactly the safe space champions they pretend to be.

Liberals are unwilling and/or unable to live by their own rules. Actions and behavior by convenience, and when it suits them. Their moral code, impulse control, and self restraint disappear just like limited time offers. They simply do whatever they want - without concern for consequences. Consequence winds are changing, however.

Checks out.

They/Them is back from the No Kings Riots. 💀 pic.twitter.com/8JJwO2Bbam
— Sassafrass84 (@Sassafrass_84) June 16, 2025

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First day of summer is June 20th. Unless you live in Phoenix, where it's know as "just another day of 110+ heat."

Let's roll through some decades of summer songs. Which songs left a dent in your summer brain? Make your case in the comments. (and if linking in comments, please use tinyurl or another link shortening tool).

1950's: Thought about Lollipop, but we are going with Eddie Cochran. Summertime Blues, 1958.

1960's: Tommy James and the Shondells. Mony Mony, 1968. Billy Idol version was pretty good too.

1970's: It is Pride Month. The Kinks. Lola, 1970.

1980's: Damn, this decade is tough as a Gen X'er. The Clash. Should I Stay or Should I Go, 1981.

1990's: All the 'cool kids' spent a summer mocking the video. Yet they danced and sang along. Rob Van Winkle. Vanilla Ice. Ice, Ice, Baby, 1990.

2000's: Flame away in the comments. This came down to: Nelly/Country Grammar, Ride Wit Me or.... Buckcherry. Crazy B*tch, 2006. NSFW.

2010's: Lost musical decade. Kids won a lot of the radio car battles. Meghan Trainor. All About that Bass, 2014.

Will close the summer song - musical section with this all-timer.

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This ONT brought to you by: Seen around town.

That friend that is fun, has three dirty jokes for every occasion, inked, and is uninterested in approval from the easily offended.

Random dude at a convenience store asked for directions. He was heading down to the Minneapolis suburbs later in the day to lip off to the protesters.

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~~Kindly direct all white New Balance dad shoe donations to:~~ scampydog at proton dot me. Nevermind. The children think they are funny. Father's Day gift pictured below.

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1
Good Evening!

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (3ek7K)

2 Analysis

Posted by: Ciampino - check the autopilot at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (sPQoU)

3
Is Whig stil MIA?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (dtvVE)

4 KwaK!

Posted by: KwaK! at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (89Sog)

5 SPONGE!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (ULPxl)

6 Evening.

Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (4jjip)

7 nooded

Posted by: Ciampino - check the autopilots at June 17, 2025 10:01 PM (sPQoU)

8
A few days ago some were asking about Whig.

Has he reappeared yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:01 PM (dtvVE)

9
yes he has, thankfully

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:01 PM (3ek7K)

10 Ahhh, Tehran aglow.

Posted by: I mean, come on.... at June 17, 2025 10:02 PM (0eaVi)

11 Perfect sphere found by astronomers.

Moo!

Posted by: a spherical cow, for real at June 17, 2025 10:02 PM (ULPxl)

12
Thanks, 4seasons

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:03 PM (dtvVE)

13 2027 - The Schwarz Awakens

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:03 PM (BNLtx)

14 Scampy!💟

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 17, 2025 10:03 PM (FPGXM)

15
You are welcome Soothy. This place isn't the same with Whig.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:03 PM (3ek7K)

16 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 10:04 PM (cYBz/)

17 Holy shit, I have nearly the exact same shoes.

Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2025 10:04 PM (4jjip)

18 Thank you for the ONT!

Gutfeld. "Over 1 million illegals have self deported since Trump's program has begun.

More amazingly, they left in only 15 cars."

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:04 PM (jvJvP)

19 Evening, COMM!

Posted by: scampydog at June 17, 2025 10:04 PM (41CYW)

20 WITHOUT

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:04 PM (3ek7K)

21
Yeah if I could buy a box of full grown outdoor cats, I would.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:04 PM (dtvVE)

22
*peeks out from bomb shelter*

Good evening, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 10:04 PM (QnmlO)

23 yes he has, thankfully
Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:01 PM (3ek7K)

So Whig isn't going the way of the Tories???

I'll see myself out.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 17, 2025 10:05 PM (jGGMD)

24 15
You are welcome Soothy. This place isn't the same with Whig.
Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:03 PM (3ek7K)

Whig was here a day or so ago!
I told whig people were concerned.

But whig was her....

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:05 PM (jvJvP)

25 WTF is that *thing* that came back from the No Kings riot?

A hobgoblin?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 10:05 PM (GlyvH)

26 Hi!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at June 17, 2025 10:06 PM (lCaJd)

27 Red corpuscles.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 17, 2025 10:06 PM (wXs61)

28 Evenin'

Unfortunately, scientists have already ruled out aliens in this one.

Oh. So, it's aliens.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 10:07 PM (sAmhv)

29 Professor Squirrel

Something that needs to be air dropped over Tehran. Parachute optional

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:07 PM (BNLtx)

30 What is that thing in the hot pink tights? I don't know where to start!

Other than the obvious fag deal, he has hydrocephalus under his bald head tattoo. I could put a drain in it as I have seen it done before in person and on medical shows. No problem! A small drill bit from the garage and a straw and he's fixed up.

I see we are not attacked yet. Maybe launch the "guy" in pink tights into Tehran?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 10:08 PM (6PCLE)

31 We have no Rogues Lineup for commenters and sock-puppets this week?

Posted by: Ciampino - check the blinkerfluid on the left at June 17, 2025 10:08 PM (sPQoU)

32 How are things going Robert?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:09 PM (BNLtx)

33 Professor Squirrel

Something that needs to be air dropped over Tehran. Parachute optional
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:07 PM (BNLtx)

30 What is that thing in the hot pink tights? I don't know where to start!

Other than the obvious fag deal, he has hydrocephalus under his bald head tattoo. I could put a drain in it as I have seen it done before in person and on medical shows. No problem! A small drill bit from the garage and a straw and he's fixed up.

I see we are not attacked yet. Maybe launch the "guy" in pink tights into Tehran?
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 10:08 PM (6PCLE)
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Hordemind is such a beautiful thing to behold.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 10:09 PM (GlyvH)

34 They/Them is back from the No Kings Riots.

That 'they/them'. In another time, the tribe would have left him to die alone in the wilderness. For the tribe's sake.

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 10:09 PM (gKDq2)

35 So, I was thinking about the Iran tweet (two threads back), and it occurs to me that the Manhattan project delivered two (or three if you count the test) devices that could be dropped by a bomber, because we had lots of bombers and that's how we planned to deploy them.

Iran does not have many bombers, so they probably did not assemble devices appropriate to that method, they would presumably beeline a design that was suitable to delivery systems they're familiar with.

And I don't mean vests.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 10:09 PM (Dnobf)

36 What is that thing in the hot pink tights?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 10:08 PM (6PCLE)

A heller?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 10:10 PM (0eaVi)

37 Is it pregnant? It looks pregnant...🤮🤢

Posted by: lin-duh at June 17, 2025 10:10 PM (VCgbV)

38 GREAT ONT!!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 17, 2025 10:12 PM (FPGXM)

39 Now that I have your attention, I’d like to introduce you to the wonders of Amway!

Posted by: Iran at June 17, 2025 10:12 PM (u73oe)

40 Sorry I'm late. I was on the rooftop bar patio of the Blue Gill Grill, ejoying Scintilating conversation with the smartest an sexiest woman I've ever known, Miss Pollyannna....on a beautiful warm summer night.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 17, 2025 10:12 PM (hftn9)

41 That pic can't be real....

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:12 PM (jvJvP)

42 How are things going Robert?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:09 PM (BNLtx)

S.alright. Sittin' in m'truck. Chillin'. Picking my nose.

How are things at Casa de Puma?

Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2025 10:13 PM (4jjip)

43 I had a cow-orker nearly 30 years ago whose favorite movie was Spaceballs. She knew ALL the dialogue.

Posted by: huerfano at June 17, 2025 10:13 PM (n2swS)

44 One of the networks, I'm guessing Fox since that's the only network I can remember watching recently (Red Sox - Yankees game) is remaking Yellowstone plus Breaking Bad and setting it in a Maine lobster fishing town. Can't remember the title and I don't want to.

They really have zero new ideas.

Evening, Horders.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2025 10:13 PM (AwlwC)

45 ColoradoMountainMarie!!!!

*hugs*
Hello sweet lady! Please, May I sit with you and buy you a drink?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 10:13 PM (mT+6a)

46 40 Sorry I'm late. I was on the rooftop bar patio of the Blue Gill Grill, ejoying Scintilating conversation with the smartest an sexiest woman I've ever known, Miss Pollyannna....on a beautiful warm summer night.
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 17, 2025 10:12 PM (hftn9)

Good for you!

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:14 PM (jvJvP)

47 publius brings the awesome science pron.

Posted by: 13times at June 17, 2025 10:14 PM (CYcdj)

48 My summer is starting out with a meh. Got a head cold. Nothing major, mostly laryngitis and tired, but it's putting a crimp in my golfing. I only get so many days off. Plus, I need to speak clearly at work. Right now, I sound like I smoke 18 packs of unfiltered Camels a day.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 10:15 PM (sAmhv)

49 Robert, eeww

First wasn't saved from work by jury duty. Need to concentrate on finishing this F-14 kit since Israel has exterminated the last flying Persian Cats.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:15 PM (BNLtx)

50 Iran does not have many bombers, so they probably did not assemble devices appropriate to that method, they would presumably beeline a design that was suitable to delivery systems they're familiar with.

And I don't mean vests.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 10:09 PM (Dnobf)

I'd think there'd be so many wires sticking out people would probably notice.

Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2025 10:15 PM (4jjip)

51 More from publius "Venus and Earth's orbital periods

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First the galaxy looks like a twitchet, and now the planets have periods.

We may have a disparate-representation issue here. Are there any Cosmic Dicks?

Posted by: Bombadil at June 17, 2025 10:15 PM (MX0bI)

52 One of the networks, I'm guessing Fox since that's the only network I can remember watching recently (Red Sox - Yankees game) is remaking Yellowstone plus Breaking Bad and setting it in a Maine lobster fishing town. Can't remember the title and I don't want to.

They really have zero new ideas.

Evening, Horders.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2025 10:13 PM (AwlwC)

The Downeast Enders?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 10:15 PM (0eaVi)

53 If it's the end of the world…

…at least I had blueberry pancakes for dinner.

Posted by: mindful webworker - relaxation guaranteed at June 17, 2025 10:16 PM (agX+n)

54 22
*peeks out from bomb shelter*

Good evening, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 10:04 PM (QnmlO)

Hadrian, I believe we're safe in our corner of the US if the mullahs do have a small quantity of crude suitcase and shipping container U235 devices. The mullahs have higher-death count and -propaganda value targets in mind.

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 10:16 PM (aBgBM)

55 Posted by: huerfano

I knew a guy who watched Groundhog Day every day for a whole summer. Is that meta, or irony?

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2025 10:16 PM (AwlwC)

56 I've seen quite a few Guatemalans that are perfectly spherical, hoping they start rolling home, toot sweet.

Posted by: Tall Paul at June 17, 2025 10:16 PM (G5+As)

57 Great content, except pink leggings guy. Good grief that was not pretty.

Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 10:16 PM (pZEOD)

58 Regarding pink tights guy...maybe the ear hole could serve as a drain once I made the cut. Replace the ear thing with a Barbie faucet. I am a neurosurgeon tonight!

It still does not solve the mystery on what is holding up his tights. I maybe don't want to know as I had to look at IT three times to figure out that the leopard tank top was not part of his tattoos.

Please note that he didn't yet have the $$ to pay to have his rose tat colored in. Too late now, mate, if we are getting nuked tonight!

Seriously, do these people have mirrors? Hello? Or friends? I know they simply want attention but I think He? took this a tad too far.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 10:16 PM (6PCLE)

59
Accused Minnesota assassin Vance Boelter extracted eyeballs from corpses for a living

https://tinyurl.com/2jwzs8ba

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 10:16 PM (AOsQT)

60 23 Doc

It's Knob Noster Day!

I saw one of those things fly over I-70 once, about 15 feet above my car.

Mondo cane! Che Spettacolo!

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 10:16 PM (kd60y)

61 I can smell those shoe from here.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 10:17 PM (Q4IgG)

62 Piper

We need some haute couture stat!

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:17 PM (BNLtx)

63 First wasn't saved from work by jury duty. Need to concentrate on finishing this F-14 kit since Israel has exterminated the last flying Persian Cats.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:15 PM (BNLtx)

Damn. I was hoping they'd save a couple and ship them back to us.

I want to serve on a jury. I want to decide a capital case. I want the power of life and death in my hands.

MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2025 10:17 PM (4jjip)

64 Mel Brooks remade "The Producers" no better than the original. I expect "Spaceballs" to be inferior too.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 10:17 PM (ZmEVT)

65 44 One of the networks, I'm guessing Fox since that's the only network I can remember watching recently (Red Sox - Yankees game) is remaking Yellowstone plus Breaking Bad and setting it in a Maine lobster fishing town. Can't remember the title and I don't want to.

They really have zero new ideas.

Evening, Horders.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2025 10:13 PM (AwlwC)

It's called Bah Habah

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 17, 2025 10:17 PM (pIfcn)

66 45 nurse!

Your seat is ready🤪
Is the Rat around?

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 17, 2025 10:17 PM (FPGXM)

67 Tyrus on Gutfeld made a great point.

A million people self deported. The media is partly to thank for this because they painted President Trump as Hitler.

Interesting take...

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:18 PM (jvJvP)

68 Sorry I'm late, I was trying to get White House credentials for the panini press.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 17, 2025 10:18 PM (VSht7)

69 Seriously, do these people have mirrors? Hello? Or friends? I know they simply want attention but I think He? took this a tad too far.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 10:16 PM (6PCLE)

How is it any different than Inflated Scrotum Guy?

His get up is a sign to stay away.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 10:18 PM (0eaVi)

70 Yay, World Croc Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 17, 2025 10:18 PM (lUFok)

71 Accused Minnesota assassin Vance Boelter extracted eyeballs from corpses for a living

"I only do eyeballs." - Blade Runner

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:19 PM (BNLtx)

72 Damn. I misspelled enjoying. I'm so ashamed.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 17, 2025 10:19 PM (hftn9)

73 40 Sorry I'm late. I was on the rooftop bar patio of the Blue Gill Grill, ejoying Scintilating conversation with the smartest an sexiest woman I've ever known, Miss Pollyannna....on a beautiful warm summer night.
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 17, 2025 10:12 PM (hftn9)

An admiralable excuse.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 17, 2025 10:19 PM (VSht7)

74 I had a cow-orker nearly 30 years ago whose favorite movie was Spaceballs. She knew ALL the dialogue.
Posted by: huerfano at June 17, 2025 10:13 PM (n2swS)

Can't hold that against her.

Tuvok's first big role. He was a soldier who was combing the desert with an oversized comb and reported he 'hadn't found shit'.

We'll see if Mel still has it. But if anyone is going to do a 'remake' of a Mel Brooks movie, it has to be Mel Brooks. Period. End of discussion.

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 10:19 PM (gKDq2)

75 We need to be supportive of Mel, maybe send him a message.

"Please have fun making this movie."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:20 PM (BNLtx)

76 Spaceballs without John Candy and Joan Rivers will be boring.

Bye bye Virgin Alarm.

Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2025 10:21 PM (4jjip)

77 ISRAELI DEFENSE INDUSTRIES ANNOUNCEMENT:

To All Our Clients Worldwide
Following the decision of the French government to restrict our participation at the Paris Air Show – we have decided to transfer the demonstration to Tehran.

YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO VIEW OUR PRODUCTS

https://tinyurl.com/c2wsxsm7

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 10:21 PM (Ffc+8)

78 39 Now that I have your attention, I’d like to introduce you to the wonders of Amway!
Posted by: Iran at June 17, 2025 10:12 PM (u73oe)

Laugh snort. We once had a couple we knew come over with that crap as newlyweds. We looked at each other and said, with eyeballs only, "How do we get rid of them?"

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 10:21 PM (6PCLE)

79
What's your favorite"screwball comedy?"

That's a genre, right -- screwball comedy?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:21 PM (MzbCS)

80 I'd think there'd be so many wires sticking out people would probably notice.
Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2025 10:15 PM (4jjip)

Aliens.

Posted by: That Giorgio Guy With The Funny Hair at June 17, 2025 10:21 PM (gKDq2)

81 I have a metal roof. I figger it will protect me from radiation. In tandem with my tinfoil hat.

Posted by: Can't Be Too Careful at June 17, 2025 10:22 PM (G5+As)

82 Robert

I saw strike footage of two Persian cats meeting their demise on the ramp. The bombs hit squarely between the engines just where the fuselage blends into the center pancake.

Those two cats are never going to fly again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:22 PM (BNLtx)

83
Is it Three Amigos?

Johnny Dangerously?

Fletch?

Schindler's List?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:22 PM (MzbCS)

84 Accused Minnesota assassin Vance Boelter extracted eyeballs from corpses for a living
Posted by: Don Black

He scored the job after telling the interviewer "I can see myself doing that."

Quite the eye plucker Vance is.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 10:23 PM (cYBz/)

85 What's your favorite"screwball comedy?"

That's a genre, right -- screwball comedy?
Posted by: Soothsayer
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As you mentioned in 83, Johnny Dangerously.

Posted by: scampydog at June 17, 2025 10:23 PM (41CYW)

86 Lana Del Rey, “Summertime Sadness”

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 10:23 PM (vm8sq)

87 >>What's your favorite"screwball comedy?"

That's a genre, right -- screwball comedy?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:21 PM

Bringing Up Baby. It's also the only movie I can abide Katherine Hepburn in.

Posted by: huerfano at June 17, 2025 10:23 PM (n2swS)

88 I guess there is a reason I only got a C in Jr. High Typing class that we were all expected to take...it was sort of in the family of metal shop, Wood Shop Graphic arts, etc, (printing and type setting)...Back when schools still valued hands on life skills training.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 17, 2025 10:23 PM (hftn9)

89 What's your favorite"screwball comedy?"

That's a genre, right -- screwball comedy?
Posted by: Soothsayer

"Merrily We Live", 1938.

Posted by: Movie Maven at June 17, 2025 10:24 PM (G5+As)

90 Good evening morons y gracias Doggo

In the summers on the Dan Ingraham Show on WABC every so often he would play a drop "Roll Your Bod!" so the listeners on the beach would know to roll over to avoid sunburn.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 10:24 PM (RIvkX)

91
Joe Piscopo & Danny Devito Wise Guys was pretty good.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:24 PM (MzbCS)

92 How is it any different than Inflated Scrotum Guy?

His get up is a sign to stay away.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 10:18 PM (0eaVi)

Thankful I missed Inflated Scrotum Guy.

I did once see a photo in college, in a medical book, a poor native man with elephantiasis using a wheelbarrow to get around, poor guy.

I laughed loud enough that others heard outside the office.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 10:25 PM (6PCLE)

93 They really have zero new ideas.

Evening, Horders.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2025 10:13 PM (AwlwC)

"Every idea in my head,
Someone else has said."

~ The 'ho, 905, from "Who Are You"

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 10:26 PM (gKDq2)

94 What's your favorite"screwball comedy?"

That's a genre, right -- screwball comedy?
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:21 PM (MzbCS)

There's quite a few good ones. Don't have any favorite. But none of yours listed in the followup post fit the genre. Screwball comedies are a 30s genre.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 10:26 PM (0eaVi)

95 I guess there is a reason I only got a C in Jr. High Typing class that we were all expected to take...it was sort of in the family of metal shop, Wood Shop Graphic arts, etc, (printing and type setting)...Back when schools still valued hands on life skills training.
Posted by: Admiral Spinebender

It was still taught on typewriters when I was that age.

The school had a computer lab with Apple 2's, but not enough for typing class.

Posted by: mikeski at June 17, 2025 10:26 PM (DgGvY)

96 Those two cats are never going to fly again.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:22 PM (BNLtx)

I saw the same vidya!

Inmean it sucks that Iran is the last country to fly them but those are such gorgeous planes and watching them get destroyed gave me the sads.

Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2025 10:26 PM (4jjip)

97
Bringing Up Baby. It's also the only movie I can abide Katherine Hepburn in.
Posted by: huerfano at June 17, 2025 10:23 PM (n2swS)

__________

Katherine Hepburn always played Katherine Hepburn playing a role. Besides, it takes Hollywood assholes to take the tawdry adultery she indulged in and make it grand and romantic.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 10:27 PM (QnmlO)

98 Favorite screwball comedy is Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder in Stir Crazy

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 10:27 PM (RIvkX)

99 They/Them’s name is Legion for they are many.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 17, 2025 10:27 PM (2gJlZ)

100 The Florida Panthers are delivering a final spanking to the Edmonton Snow Mexicans.

Posted by: El Borak at June 17, 2025 10:27 PM (WXgKW)

101 For the 80s, I'm partial to Don Henley's Boys of Summer. He's an SOB (to say the least), but he could write a good song.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 10:27 PM (xzkgE)

102 I'm no astronomer, but I'd bet my nickel that's no perfect sphere. I bet it's a gigantic explosion whose shockwave and various ejecta appear, with our imperfect instrumentation and yawning distance, "perfectly" spherical.

Hell, I bet one of our comparatively tiny nuclear weapons, detonated outside any nearby planet's gravitational pull, would appear "perfectly" spherical from a relatively short distance outside its own point of explosion.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 10:27 PM (BI5O2)

103 Nil Butron is a pud

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 17, 2025 10:28 PM (wXs61)

104 What's your favorite"screwball comedy?"

That's a genre, right -- screwball comedy?
Posted by: Soothsayer

'The Hot Rock.' It's more of a caper movie, I suppose, but has crazy comedy scenes and performances.

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 10:28 PM (aBgBM)

105 Good evening, Horde. That Kid Rock video holds up as a great reflection on the 80's. I realize he isn't everyone's cup of tee, but he sure has his priorities solidly in line.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at June 17, 2025 10:28 PM (ZOk/W)

106 Inflated Scrotum Guy was and probably still is a Folsom Street regular.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:28 PM (BNLtx)

107 It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.

Posted by: 13times at June 17, 2025 10:29 PM (CYcdj)

108 101 For the 80s, I'm partial to Don Henley's Boys of Summer. He's an SOB (to say the least), but he could write a good song.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

Yep. It's one of my "I can play this song on a loop" songs.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 10:29 PM (sAmhv)

109 I'm typing one-handed.

In bedroom. Watching Gutfeld.

Cat Snowflake came here to cuddle. So much purring.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:29 PM (jvJvP)

110 Things look grim for the Oilers

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 10:30 PM (AOsQT)

111 I had to zoom onto that video to see it was a sledgehammer- lol!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:30 PM (47gcY)

112 Coming right up, Ayatollah!

Vitamin B-2, with a side of MOPs.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 10:30 PM (kd60y)

113 Seals & Crofts - Summer Breeze, from 1972. The summer between 10th and 11th grade, the first summer I had my own car, the first time I had a serious girlfriend.

Posted by: Some Moron at June 17, 2025 10:31 PM (Yt3ED)

114 I had to zoom onto that video to see it was a sledgehammer- lol!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:30 PM (47gcY)
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Newton's Third Law of Motion is a harsh mistress.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 10:31 PM (GlyvH)

115 #Israel’s ambassador to the U.S. says when the dust settles you will see some surprises on Thursday night and Friday that will make the beeper operation almost seem simple

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 10:31 PM (Ffc+8)

116 Robert

Further incentive to finish up this American 'Cat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:32 PM (BNLtx)

117 100 The Florida Panthers are delivering a final spanking to the Edmonton Snow Mexicans.
Posted by: El Borak

Heh! Florida Man has defeated the Canukistanis once again!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 10:32 PM (sAmhv)

118 What's your favorite"screwball comedy?"

That's a genre, right -- screwball comedy?
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:21 PM (MzbCS)

Cary Grant. Somethng like 'Bringing Up Baby'. Always good eyepaper. But Grant also did 'His Girl Friday', another favorite of mine. The one liners in that movie are so fast and furious that one needs to be able to pause just to appreciate them all.

You can also add the 1931 version of 'The Front Page' as a good screwball comedy.

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 10:32 PM (gKDq2)

119 I get the sense that this is going to be a crazy ONT tonight....😛...
Or not....🤪

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 17, 2025 10:32 PM (FPGXM)

120 @113...same song I thought of.

Great times for music and parties. I was in 12th grade.

Best music of all time from 1970 through mid-80's.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 10:33 PM (6PCLE)

121 Paradise by the Dashboard Lights I listened to probably 300 times one summer.

Oh.. and Caddy Shack for the comedy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 10:33 PM (rvwwT)

122 Herbie the Love Bug is a good screwball comedy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 10:33 PM (RIvkX)

123 Random IDF pic:

https://tinyurl.com/4e5x5xka

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 10:33 PM (Ffc+8)

124 Cary Grant - Arsenic and Old Lace

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:33 PM (BNLtx)

125 Yes San Franpsycho, Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor has a string of hilarious movies! Another was Stir Crazy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:33 PM (47gcY)

126 117 100 The Florida Panthers are delivering a final spanking to the Edmonton Snow Mexicans.
Posted by: El Borak

Heh! Florida Man has defeated the Canukistanis once again!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 10:32 PM (sAmhv

I'm not over the dystopian nightmare.

We don't deserve nice things.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:34 PM (jvJvP)

127 115 #Israel’s ambassador to the U.S. says when the dust settles you will see some surprises on Thursday night and Friday that will make the beeper operation almost seem simple
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 10:31 PM (Ffc+

Sounds good!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 10:34 PM (6PCLE)

128 Cat Snowflake came here to cuddle. So much purring.
Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from

I feel you. Kovu is cuddling but he is so big, I only can see out of 1 eye. Sabi is laying on my feet, I can’t feel my toes. Saijo is in puppy jail settling with his chewie. Lots of purring and chomping.

Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 10:34 PM (pZEOD)

129 #Israel’s ambassador to the U.S. says when the dust settles you will see some surprises on Thursday night and Friday that will make the beeper operation almost seem simple
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 10:31 PM (Ffc+

They stuck a detonator in the Ayatollah's Wife's vibrator?

Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2025 10:34 PM (4jjip)

130 I don't know what 'screwball' means, film-wise, but I like Used Cars

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 10:34 PM (AOsQT)

131 I recall that the Iranians had close ties with the Norks; they might have a design from their buddies. The fly in the ointment is that the North Koreans use plutonium while the Iranians are apparently planning on enriched uranium. Different materials, different solutions... but then again, a lot of the fusing and other crap that goes into it could be borrowed?

And supposedly there were implosion tests detected (non-nuclear, obviously). So it's not entirely implausible that some desperate flop-sweat machining of whatever they have on hand has been going on, or something. I dunno.

If they're planning on throwing it, though, I think they'd need to use one of their older, bigger rockets to do it - Shahab or Shelob or whatever the fuck it's called. Those are conspicuous and, as a bonus, liquid fueled - probably not a great combo when there's a bunch of Israeli planes flying around your airspace with impunity.

Posted by: Locarno at June 17, 2025 10:35 PM (wiYsG)

132 Never seen 'Spaceballs.'

Laughter might be nice.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:35 PM (jvJvP)

133 "Arsenic and Old Lace," "Too many husbands."

Jean Arthur was great.

I a dramatic role, the wife in "Shane", she was great too.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 10:35 PM (ZmEVT)

134 Screwball comedies? I like "What About Bob?" and "Major Payne," but those were movies from my childhood.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 10:36 PM (BI5O2)

135 "ever seen 'Spaceballs.'

Laughter might be nice."

Warning: It's really stupid. Fun, but stupid.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 10:36 PM (ZmEVT)

136 It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.
Posted by: 13times at June 17, 2025 10:29 PM (CYcdj)

Excellent call. That movie's the tops of all screwball comedies. Eveybody and their brother wanted to be in it, and pretty much were. A cast of thousands. Okay, hundreds. Maybe dozens. But it seemed like hundreds.

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 10:36 PM (gKDq2)

137 I am off to bed. I am prayerful the big surprise is a bluff.

Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 10:36 PM (pZEOD)

138 I'm not over the dystopian nightmare.

We don't deserve nice things.
Posted by: Stateless..

I jumped the gun. Game isn't over. It's 4-0, midway through the 3rd.

Ok, it's probably over.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 10:36 PM (sAmhv)

139 Gene Wilder and Zero Mostel in Rhinoceros! which was not only a screwball comedy, but also a dystopian view of the end of the world.

Mostel makes a good rhinoceros by the way

Posted by: Kindltot at June 17, 2025 10:37 PM (D7oie)

140 I feel you. Kovu is cuddling but he is so big, I only can see out of 1 eye. Sabi is laying on my feet, I can’t feel my toes. Saijo is in puppy jail settling with his chewie. Lots of purring and chomping.

Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 10:34 PM (pZEOD)

Very sleep.

All of you have a great night.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:37 PM (jvJvP)

141 Bad news about the Spaceballs sequel- it is going to feature and be written by Josh Gad.

That man is to entertainment what salmonella is to cuisine.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 17, 2025 10:37 PM (VSht7)

142 The movie "Gas" from 1981 might qualify as a screwball comedy. Or just screwball.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 17, 2025 10:38 PM (lUFok)

143 This sucks -

Powder Valley has free hazmat today.

And inchester #41 Small Rifle NATO-Spec Military Primers #41 Box of 1000.

Need to spend $99 to get free hazmat... and $200 for regular free ship ---> FIVE BOXES.

I could go for two boxes... But that gets me nothing.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 17, 2025 10:38 PM (/lPRQ)

144 Favorite screwball comedy: Duck Soup

Posted by: tankdemon at June 17, 2025 10:38 PM (VSht7)

145 Sorry, stateless. It was imperative that a Canadian team not win the cup this year. It would have made Carney insufferable.

If Edmonton won, they'd all think it reflects badly on Trump and USA. They had to lose.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 10:38 PM (0eaVi)

146 Or the Ayatollah's "goat."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 10:38 PM (ZmEVT)

147 133 "Arsenic and Old Lace," "Too many husbands."

Jean Arthur was great.

I a dramatic role, the wife in "Shane", she was great too.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 10:35 PM (ZmEVT)

If you are a Jean Arthur fan I highly recommend the movie "Arizona." 1940. If you can find it.

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 10:38 PM (aBgBM)

148 Cannonball Run

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 10:38 PM (sAmhv)

149 Not screwball

But the "Thin Man" movies. Amazing dialogue.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:39 PM (jvJvP)

150 51 Are there any Cosmic Dicks?
Posted by: Bombadil at June 17, 2025 10:15 PM (MX0bI)
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Neil DeGrasse Tyson?

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 17, 2025 10:39 PM (QdGJh)

151 Ayatollah's beard powder is C-4?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:39 PM (BNLtx)

152 I am off to bed. I am prayerful the big surprise is a bluff.
Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 10:36 PM (pZEOD)

Rest easy. People don't tell you when they've got a surprise coming.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 10:39 PM (E0p3T)

153 The Big Labowski was a screwball comedy.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 10:40 PM (ZmEVT)

154 "Nicky, what is that policeman doing in my drawers?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 10:40 PM (BNLtx)

155 If they're planning on throwing it, though, I think they'd need to use one of their older, bigger rockets to do it - Shahab or Shelob or whatever the fuck it's called.
-
If Iran throws Shelob at Israel, I'll protect them!

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee at June 17, 2025 10:40 PM (Dnobf)

156 Arsenic and Old Lace

PERFECT for WW II audiences! A comedy about lovable psychopathic killers.

Took everyone's mind off the casualty lists for a couple of hours.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 10:40 PM (kd60y)

157 They/Them guy caused me to have to make yet another cocktail. I did not need it, but it became necessary...I hate that🧐

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 17, 2025 10:40 PM (FPGXM)

158 Screwball comedy:

"The Mad Adventures of Rabbi Jacob" from 1973

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 10:41 PM (6PCLE)

159 Reinhart 4 goals for the Beach Hockeyers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 10:41 PM (rvwwT)

160 1990s - Bye Bye Bye by N'Sync

Posted by: Ciampino - check the blinkerfluid on the right at June 17, 2025 10:42 PM (sPQoU)

161 For Anna Puma et alia...

OSINTtechnical @Osinttechnical 17m
Israeli Air Force F-15 Eagles heading out to escort a strike package into Iranian airspace.

This group of nearly 50 year old Eagles, armed with an equally eclectic mix of AIM-7 Sparrows, AIM-120 AMRAAMs, and Python 4s, now dominate the skies over Iran.

OSINTtechnical @Osinttechnical 23m
On July 29, 1981, Baz 673 (this aircraft) flown by Major Shaul Simon is credited with downing a Syrian MiG-25 "Foxbat" using an AIM-7F Sparrow missile.

673 now flies with the name “Foxbat Killer.”

OSINTtechnical @Osinttechnical 21m
Yes, those are AIM-7 Sparrows being used in 2025.

https://tinyurl.com/48t7w989
photos

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 10:42 PM (2yoRf)

162 145 Sorry, stateless. It was imperative that a Canadian team not win the cup this year. It would have made Carney insufferable.

If Edmonton won, they'd all think it reflects badly on Trump and USA. They had to lose.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 10:38 PM (0eaVi)

Thanks. But my 'Give a Damn Meter" for this is, WAIT! WHAT THE HELL! Less than zero!'

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:42 PM (jvJvP)

163 I a dramatic role, the wife in "Shane", she was great too.
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And then the little bastard shot me right in the ass.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 10:44 PM (2yoRf)

164 673 now flies with the name “Foxbat Killer.”

OSINTtechnical @Osinttechnical 21m
Yes, those are AIM-7 Sparrows being used in 2025.

https://tinyurl.com/48t7w989
photos
Posted by: andycanuck
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Cool link. Thanks.

Posted by: scampydog at June 17, 2025 10:45 PM (41CYW)

165
Underappreciated screwball comedy by Martin Scorsese: After Hours, starring many.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 10:45 PM (HuRzZ)

166 149

Thin Man movies! I bet I've watched them all a gazillion times! Those characters could do some drinkin'😜!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 17, 2025 10:47 PM (FPGXM)

167 I’m glad we like bats! Lots of mosquitoes here , especially in a wet year like this one, so I’m glad to have them around. Tonight at dusk I confirmed that I’ve got a small colony living in my second story eaves, as I counted about 15 to 20 coming out. They are very tiny, I believe species is the Little Brown Bat, which only weighs 1/2 oz. A true fliedermaus.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:47 PM (47gcY)

168 That Touch of Mink. Is that screwballl?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 10:47 PM (xzkgE)

169 Just checked. "Thin Man" - 1934.

So far, I am winning.But I am NOT THAT 29.

Sorry, tired.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:47 PM (jvJvP)

170 "What's Up Doc" has a hilarious chase scene over the streets of San Francisco back when SF was still charming. The downside is, you have to be able to set aside your normal visceral revulsion to Barbra Streisand.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2025 10:49 PM (dDmld)

171 Newton's Third Law of Motion is a harsh mistress.
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Was she the doggie-style one or the reverse-cowgirl one??

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 10:49 PM (2yoRf)

172
"See No Evil, Hear No Evil" -- Pryor and Wilder -- my favorite by those two.

Posted by: Ciampino - check the blonde at June 17, 2025 10:49 PM (sPQoU)

173 Cool link. Thanks.
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Cheers.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 10:50 PM (2yoRf)

174 166 149

Thin Man movies! I bet I've watched them all a gazillion times! Those characters could do some drinkin'😜!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 17, 2025 10:47 PM

I have to watch again.
I need to laugh...

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 10:50 PM (jvJvP)

175 What about Bob? Is way underrated! My wife and have always loved that movie!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:50 PM (47gcY)

176 Hogan's Heroes was a good screwball comedy. Certainly funnier than Bob Crane's other screwball films.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 10:50 PM (BI5O2)

177 125 Yes San Franpsycho, Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor has a string of hilarious movies! Another was Stir Crazy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:33 PM (47gcY)

Blazing Saddles was also supposed too be one.

Posted by: Reforger at June 17, 2025 10:51 PM (LgDgc)

178 They shoot their missiles at night. Well, it's almost 6am in Tel Aviv now, and no "big surprise."

I think Iran was handing us, how you say, ... a bullzh*t.

Kind of like that German guy & his wonder weapons.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 10:52 PM (kd60y)

179 That picture of the Foxbat Killer reminds me of the meme: 50 year old plane in my mind, a P-51 Mustang. 50 Year old plane in reality; an F-15.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:52 PM (47gcY)

180 Certainly funnier than Bob Crane's other screwball films.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

I think it was Crane's other screw films that got him killed.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 10:53 PM (cYBz/)

181 What about Bob? Is way underrated! My wife and have always loved that movie!
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:50 PM (47gcY)

Wife and kids, for me. If a movie is repeatably enjoyable for a crowd ages 8-80, it's solid. Double for a comedy. Comedies are usually tapped out on the first view, regardless of age or anything.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 10:53 PM (BI5O2)

182 178 They shoot their missiles at night. Well, it's almost 6am in Tel Aviv now, and no "big surprise."

I think Iran was handing us, how you say, ... a bullzh*t.

Kind of like that German guy & his wonder weapons.
Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 10:52 PM (kd60y)

The Mother of All Battles!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 10:53 PM (xzkgE)

183 Spaceballs worked hard to be Blazing Saddles-level hilarious but failed. Granted, it did have a few funny lines. But too few.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2025 10:53 PM (dDmld)

184 I just can't stand Richard Dreyfuss. Every time I see Jaws, I keep waiting for that shark to get him, and it never does. Maybe next time ...

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 10:55 PM (xzkgE)

185 Not a summer song, but I like Eddie Cochran's Twenty Flight Rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Vfin7mqdw

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 10:56 PM (0Htd1)

186 Midnight Run with Charles Grodin, DeNiro, and Yaphet Kotto. Great movie, great performances by all of them. (Before deniro turned into such a jerk). Probably Grodin’s best movie.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:56 PM (47gcY)

187 I just can't stand Richard Dreyfuss. Every time I see Jaws, I keep waiting for that shark to get him, and it never does. Maybe next time ...
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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I was rooting for the shark too with Dreyfuss.

Posted by: scampydog at June 17, 2025 10:56 PM (41CYW)

188 Senior, 92, forced to mow neighbors' lawns after mayor's neglect

https://mol.im/a/14821449

Posted by: Ciampino - time to sue the city at June 17, 2025 10:57 PM (sPQoU)

189
Which movie was it with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor with the train?

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:58 PM (3ek7K)

190 Frasier star Kelsey Grammer, 70, to become dad for EIGHTH time

https://mol.im/a/14822115

Posted by: Ciampino - time to seed the soil at June 17, 2025 10:58 PM (sPQoU)

191 See if you hate Dreyfuss, you’ll love What About Bob. Dreyfuss is the incredibly arrogant and egotistical psychiatrist who bit by bit gets completely destroyed by Murray’s goofball insanity.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:58 PM (47gcY)

192 History of the World Part 1 is much better Mel Brooks.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 10:58 PM (RIvkX)

193 I'm not on the IDF's general staff or Mossad's directorate, but I bet they take Iran's threat deadly serious. Only fools would laugh that off.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 10:58 PM (BI5O2)

194 Which movie was it with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor with the train?
Posted by: four seasons
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Silver Streak

Posted by: scampydog at June 17, 2025 10:58 PM (41CYW)

195
Thanks scampy. I love that movie.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:59 PM (3ek7K)

196 Which movie was it with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor with the train?

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Clockwork Orange?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2025 10:59 PM (dDmld)

197
Silver Bullet?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 10:59 PM (EMSTj)

198 189
Which movie was it with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor with the train?

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:58 PM (3ek7K)
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Silverstreak

Posted by: Ciampino - time to seed the .... at June 17, 2025 11:00 PM (sPQoU)

199
189
Which movie was it with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor with the train?
Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:58 PM (3ek7K)

Silver Streak! Love that one, still remember the tune - it was one of the last great movie scores by Henry Mancini.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:00 PM (47gcY)

200 dog killer (toto?) kristi noem goes to hospital after water gets splashed on her and she starts to melt.

Posted by: raimondo at June 17, 2025 11:01 PM (vspTY)

201
My favorite movie is Repo Man. I don't know why, lol, but I love it.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:01 PM (3ek7K)

202 See if you hate Dreyfuss, you’ll love What About Bob. Dreyfuss is the incredibly arrogant and egotistical psychiatrist who bit by bit gets completely destroyed by Murray’s goofball insanity.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 10:58 PM (47gcY)
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Yeah I hate that guy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 11:02 PM (RIvkX)

203

And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 11:02 PM (63Dwl)

204 I just can't stand Richard Dreyfuss. Every time I see Jaws, I keep waiting for that shark to get him, and it never does. Maybe next time ...
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 10:55 PM (xzkgE)

That's how I feel about Michael Cera.

You could make a movie so beautiful that the heavens would weep if they watched it.

If one toe of Cera's shoe appears in a corner of a single frame by accident, you might as well burn all the prints and reshoot the whole damn thing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:02 PM (BI5O2)

205 Rat Race was a great screwball, all-star comedy.

Except the end. The end was terrible.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2025 11:02 PM (AwlwC)

206 I'll be disappointed if the movie isn't called "Spaceballs 3: The Search for Spaceballs 2".

That said, what little I saw of History of the World, Part II doesn't give me a lot of hope.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 17, 2025 11:02 PM (OGOaV)

207
My favorite movie is Repo Man. I don't know why, lol, but I love it.
Posted by: four seasons

Plate of shrimp.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 11:03 PM (63Dwl)

208 37 Is it pregnant? It looks pregnant...🤮🤢
Posted by: lin-duh

Could be carrying a baby in that giant, misshapen head.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 11:04 PM (0Htd1)

209 Sick burn, troll.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 11:04 PM (RIvkX)

210 You could make a movie so beautiful that the heavens would weep if they watched it.

If one toe of Cera's shoe appears in a corner of a single frame by accident, you might as well burn all the prints and reshoot the whole damn thing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

It's how I feel about Will Ferrell. Except Talladega Nights.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2025 11:05 PM (AwlwC)

211 For the past ten years, astronomers have been detecting strange radio signals emitting from space every two hours.

Unfortunately, scientists have already ruled out aliens in this one.

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How? They didn't ask for more Chuck Berry?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2025 11:05 PM (dDmld)

212 Except the end. The end was terrible.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2025 11:02 PM (AwlwC)

I agree - but the one part that just about brings tears to my eyes is when Jon Lovits and family visit the Barbie Museum!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:06 PM (47gcY)

213
I just can't stand Richard Dreyfuss.

_________

That's how I feel about Robin Williams.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 11:06 PM (QnmlO)

214 Will Ferrell's entire career has been one long Humiliation Ritual.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2025 11:06 PM (AwlwC)

215 They/Them is back from the No Kings Riots

I think I saw that alien on "Men in Black"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:06 PM (ynpvh)

216 Anti-Trump protester reveals horrific facial injury from LA rally

https://mol.im/a/14821981

Posted by: Ciampino - time to turn the other cheek at June 17, 2025 11:07 PM (sPQoU)

217 Posted by: Tom Servo

Whoopi Goldberg's squirrel joke in Rat Race was a masterpiece.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 17, 2025 11:08 PM (AwlwC)

218 214 Will Ferrell's entire career has been one long Humiliation Ritual.

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Elf was legitimately funny.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2025 11:08 PM (dDmld)

219 Iran tonight:

"We control the skies over Israel."

Yes! And I'm a Chippendale, AND I belong to MENSA.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 11:08 PM (kd60y)

220 I think Iran was handing us, how you say, ... a bullzh*t.

Kind of like that German guy & his wonder weapons.
Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 10:52 PM (kd60y)

Hey, man, der gloche is real, there was just a technical mishap and it's a hundred years off.

Posted by: Sgt Schulz, special weapons technician at June 17, 2025 11:09 PM (Dnobf)

221 Michael Cera plays the same sweet, befuddled beta in every role.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 11:09 PM (RIvkX)

222 186 Midnight Run with Charles Grodin, DeNiro, and Yaphet Kotto. Great movie, great performances by all of them. (Before deniro turned into such a jerk). Probably Grodin’s best movie.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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And Dennis Farina. One of the more underrated mob boss movie performances. Gets overlooked.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 11:09 PM (sAmhv)

223 "Fame" by David Bowie stands out for me. Smack in the middle of the '70s. An odd but catchy tune that the local top 40 station played constantly in the summer of '75. Lots of '70s standards in that window of time between middle school and HS.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 11:10 PM (wzAuc)

224 219 Iran tonight:

"We control the skies over Israel."

Yes! And I'm a Chippendale, AND I belong to MENSA.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 11:08 PM (kd60y)

And here I thought they now inhabited the area around hell...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:10 PM (ynpvh)

225 Which movie was it with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor with the train?
Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:58 PM (3ek7K)

Silver Streak. I saw that way too many times as a kid.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 11:10 PM (Dnobf)

226 141

' it is going to feature and be written by Josh Gad.

That man is to entertainment what salmonella is to cuisine.'

If leftwing salmonella is possible, he'll create it.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 17, 2025 11:10 PM (3wi/L)

227 I just can't stand Richard Dreyfuss.

That's how I feel about Robin Williams.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 11:06 PM (QnmlO)

H7! Have I got news for you!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 11:10 PM (0eaVi)

228 Breaking911 @Breaking911 6h
🚨 IRANIAN STATE MEDIA: "There is a surprise tonight that the world will remember for centuries."

Dr. Richard Harambe @Richard_Harambe 4h
The McRib is back

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 11:11 PM (2yoRf)

229
Can't understand the Houston Astros. Their lineup is like their regular starters missed the team bus, they pull random guys off the street as starters, but they're in first place and currently leading 5-0.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 11:11 PM (QnmlO)

230 Thin Man movies!

"We didn't come to New York to stay sober."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 11:11 PM (ZmEVT)

231 That's how I feel about Michael Cera.

You could make a movie so beautiful that the heavens would weep if they watched it.

If one toe of Cera's shoe appears in a corner of a single frame by accident, you might as well burn all the prints and reshoot the whole damn thing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:02 PM (BI5O2)

I thought he was great in the original run of Arrested Development, but after that...gahhh. Puberty hit him like a woodchipper.

Posted by: The Mantastic Tor at June 17, 2025 11:11 PM (pNJeo)

232 Mind-bending excuse judge made to set free dad who killed daughter

https://mol.im/a/14821795

"How do we solve the problem of woke judges"

(to the tune of A sound of Music "Maria'.

Posted by: Ciampino - time to turn to nooses at June 17, 2025 11:12 PM (sPQoU)

233 That's how I feel about Robin Williams.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 11:06 PM (QnmlO)

Yup. He didn't do himself any favors when he cacked himself, and I'm sad he felt that he should.

But it definitely preserved his legacy. Comedic actors (and some nostalgic audiences) now feel it proper to talk about how he great he was.

Short of his suicide, he'd be remembered as a hammy actor of yesteryear by now. Most people would say "Who? Oh yeah, him. He was funny in Mrs. Doubtfire. Sorta."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:13 PM (BI5O2)

234 Man, the cat Snowflake.

She's not getting any more food today. But she's all zoomy. She has been back a week. We have a routine...kind of.

If Snowflake has trauma and emotional issues from being catnapped, driven across town and being outside for 3 weeks, she's not eating that away.

She can take up drinking....
Wouldn't do that...

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 11:13 PM (jvJvP)

235 228

Sorry, Doc. But the night has come & gone. It's daytime in Tel Aviv now.

Did you mean some OTHER night, perhaps?

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 11:14 PM (kd60y)

236 204
'If one toe of Cera's shoe appears in a corner of a single frame by accident, you might as well burn all the prints and reshoot the whole damn thing.'

You should watch Superbad. I 'd bet you'd laugh at that.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 17, 2025 11:15 PM (3wi/L)

237
It is a shame we can't nuke Iran. There are so many innocent people there who have suffered under the assholes though. Can't do it.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:15 PM (3ek7K)

238 232 Mind-bending excuse judge made to set free dad who killed daughter

https://mol.im/a/14821795

"How do we solve the problem of woke judges"

(to the tune of A sound of Music "Maria'.

Posted by: Ciampino - time to turn to nooses at June 17, 2025 11:12 PM (sPQoU)

Well, judge should suffer like the bastard's daughter did.

"McWoods will be released in 18 months despite being found guilty in 2018 of killing his daughter Kamaya Flores from a methadone overdose. She also suffered broken ribs, bruises, bleeding, and strangulation."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:16 PM (ynpvh)

239 Mork & Mindy sucked moose balls.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 11:16 PM (RIvkX)

240 Short of his suicide, he'd be remembered as a hammy actor of yesteryear by now. Most people would say "Who? Oh yeah, him. He was funny in Mrs. Doubtfire. Sorta."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:13 PM (BI5O2)

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Seems like ages since I heard anyone say "Nanoo Nanoo"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2025 11:16 PM (dDmld)

241 205
'Rat Race was a great screwball, all-star comedy.'

The Barbie Museum.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 17, 2025 11:16 PM (3wi/L)

242
He didn't do himself any favors when he cacked himself, and I'm sad he felt that he should.

_________

I'm sorry about that because he had a brutal disease. But to me he tried so hard to be funny that it was painful to watch.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 11:17 PM (QnmlO)

243 105 Good evening, Horde. That Kid Rock video holds up as a great reflection on the 80's. I realize he isn't everyone's cup of tee, but he sure has his priorities solidly in line.
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs

My sister saw him at some charitable function in Detroit. Probably for the symphony, or something. She said he is a lot better looking in person. And my sister is very traditional in her attitudes about dress. Apparently he cleans up real nice.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 11:17 PM (0Htd1)

244 My favorite movie is Repo Man. I don't know why, lol, but I love it.
Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:01 PM (3ek7K)

"John Wayne was a fairy."

"Otto! What about our relationship?"

"Yeah. Let's get sushi, and not pay."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 11:17 PM (hdoQS)

245 What is it with these middle east people and their "oh, you're gonna get it now"?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 11:17 PM (rvwwT)

246 219 Iran tonight:

"We control the skies over Israel."

Yes! And I'm a Chippendale, AND I belong to MENSA.
Posted by: mnw
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They can tell some whoppers. There's pic of the Paki 'ace' beside his plane that shot down six Indian fighters. Stickers on the plane to prove it too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 11:18 PM (Ffc+8)

247 You should watch Superbad. I 'd bet you'd laugh at that.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 17, 2025 11:15 PM (3wi/L

The ex-wife got me to buy a ticket to watch it in a theater.

I did not laugh.

I still want my money back, plus huge personal damages, and a good old-fashioned biblical stoning of Judd Apatow might make me back off the class action I'd use the settlement to fund.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:20 PM (BI5O2)

248 Thin Man movies!

"We didn't come to New York to stay sober."
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 11:11 PM (ZmEVT)

"Please serve the nuts! . . . I mean, please serve our guests the nuts."

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 11:20 PM (gKDq2)

249 Movie thread!

Twp terrific small ball movies about crime and betrayal.

The Friends of Eddie Coyle 1973
Robert Mitchum / Peter Boyle

The Drop 2014
stars Tom Hardy, Noomi Rapace, James Gandolfini (in his final film role)

Plus summer smoothies.
Black Berries
Whole Milk
Secret Ingredient: Some type chocolate ice cream.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:20 PM (NXz8h)

250 Kentucky Fried Movie
Pandemonium
Airplane
Blazing Saddles
Cannonball Run

In no particular order, but all great screwball comedies..

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at June 17, 2025 11:21 PM (ZOk/W)

251 They can tell some whoppers. There's pic of the Paki 'ace' beside his plane that shot down six Indian fighters. Stickers on the plane to prove it too.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 11:18 PM (Ffc+

Hey, we can do it too.

Posted by: The Ghost of Kiev at June 17, 2025 11:21 PM (hdoQS)

252 Richard Dreyfus is in one of the greatest films of all time, and What About Bob is a classic.

Can’t think of an actor I actively dislike, perhaps Kevin Bacon.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:21 PM (XV/Pl)

253 247
'The ex-wife got me to buy a ticket to watch it in a theater.

I did not laugh.'

Did she know how you felt about Michael Cera going in?
She may have got you the ticket for sadistic amusement.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 17, 2025 11:22 PM (3wi/L)

254 My favorite movie is Repo Man. I don't know why, lol, but I love it. Posted by: four seasons

Pair it up with it To Live and Die in LA and you have a perfect SoCal movie night.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:22 PM (NXz8h)

255 I wish I could post the Iranian picture of the F-35 they “shot down”. There’s a bunch of people standing next to it and they screwed up the photoshop so bad that you realize the pilot would have to be 20’ tall.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:23 PM (47gcY)

256
It really pisses me off when "celebrities" voice their opinions about how our country is run.

Most of them are voicing their opinions just so they can be in the news. Most of them are fucking stupid.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:24 PM (3ek7K)

257
If Edmonton won, they'd all think it reflects badly on Trump and USA. They had to lose.

___________

I see all the fine Canadian folks here and I get twice as pissed that it's only the smug-ass America-distainers we seem to here from otherwise.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 11:24 PM (QnmlO)

258 255 I wish I could post the Iranian picture of the F-35 they “shot down”. There’s a bunch of people standing next to it and they screwed up the photoshop so bad that you realize the pilot would have to be 20’ tall.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:23 PM (47gcY)

https://tinyurl.com/33hf5azy

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:24 PM (ynpvh)

259 258 255 I wish I could post the Iranian picture of the F-35 they “shot down”. There’s a bunch of people standing next to it and they screwed up the photoshop so bad that you realize the pilot would have to be 20’ tall.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:23 PM (47gcY)

https://tinyurl.com/33hf5azy

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:24 PM (ynpvh)

260 I have to admit that Arrested Development was good, in spite of Cera. Or perhaps because he was the butt of every joke.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:25 PM (BI5O2)

261 255 I wish I could post the Iranian picture of the F-35 they “shot down”. There’s a bunch of people standing next to it and they screwed up the photoshop so bad that you realize the pilot would have to be 20’ tall.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:23 PM (47gcY)

Coulda been flown by one of those aliens from Prometheus...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:25 PM (ynpvh)

262 > For the past ten years, astronomers have been detecting strange radio signals emitting from space every two hours.

Unfortunately, scientists have already ruled out aliens in this one.
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And now, on with the countdown!

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 11:26 PM (AOsQT)

263 Herbie the Love Bug is a good screwball comedy.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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SF, I looked down, sure this was going to be Fen.

A good movie, and fitting, but still.....

Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 11:26 PM (n4GiU)

264 A family favorite is "The 'Burbs"

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 11:26 PM (ZmEVT)

265
It really pisses me off when "celebrities" voice their opinions about how our country is run.

_________

Always nice to hear from people who largely don't use their real names, never graduated from high school and are famous for reciting stuff written by someone else.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 11:26 PM (QnmlO)

266 238 (in California)

The feds could pick that one up if they wanted: "Distribution of A Controlled Substance (Methadone) Resulting in Death."

It's not the typical fact pattern for that charge, but so what? Perfectly doable.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 11:26 PM (kd60y)

267
Hadrian,

BINGO!!

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:26 PM (3ek7K)

268 I've been looking for all-black New Balance shoes. Are those real? If so, where do you find them?

Posted by: MartynWW at June 17, 2025 11:27 PM (vXpHP)

269 they screwed up the photoshop so bad that you realize the pilot would have to be 20’ tall.

Must have been flown by a Cyclops. Depth perception is a bitch

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 11:27 PM (gKWVE)

270 My favorite movie is Repo Man. I don't know why, lol, but I love it. Posted by: four seasons

*eats sushi, doesn't pay*

Posted by: A Miklos Man is always intense (in best Harry Dean Stanton voice) at June 17, 2025 11:27 PM (K6h4I)

271 Always nice to hear from people who largely don't use their real names, never graduated from high school and are famous for reciting stuff written by someone else.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Scrolls up, looks at post. Hangs head in shame.

Posted by: scampydog at June 17, 2025 11:27 PM (41CYW)

272 Thanks Jim! The more you look at, the better it gets. If you look at the lower left hand corner, you’ll see that the people standing around apparently drove there in matchbox cars.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:27 PM (47gcY)

273 When I hear screwball, I think of movies that go for as many laughs per minute as possible and are annoyingly unfunny. "Raising Arizona" is definitely manic but I dont consider it screwball, because it's actually funny. Same for "Breaking Away" and Ferris Beuller."

I didnt much care for Animal House, Caddyshack, Stripes, Fletch, or any Mel Brooks flick after Blazing Saddles. Those were screwball.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 11:27 PM (wzAuc)

274 184 I just can't stand Richard Dreyfuss. Every time I see Jaws, I keep waiting for that shark to get him, and it never does. Maybe next time ...
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

I felt the same way about little Leo in Titanic. When he finally went under in the freezing water, I considered it a happy ending. That imbecile should have put on a life jacket.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 11:28 PM (0Htd1)

275 272 Thanks Jim! The more you look at, the better it gets. If you look at the lower left hand corner, you’ll see that the people standing around apparently drove there in matchbox cars.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:27 PM (47gcY)

And live in tiny gnome houses.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:28 PM (ynpvh)

276 Short of his suicide, he'd be remembered as a hammy actor of yesteryear by now. Most people would say "Who? Oh yeah, him. He was funny in Mrs. Doubtfire. Sorta."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:13 PM (BI5O2)

Williams could do creepy. His role in 'One Hour Photo'. Critics, and probably audiences, hated it because it wasn't a typical Williams vehicle. But he played creepy well.

It wasn't a laugh a riot like 'Good Morning Vietnam' or other films. If you hate a character because he's a creep -- and you don't laugh at him, does that make the acting successful? Some people can't play a bad guy. I was surprised Williams could.

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 11:29 PM (gKDq2)

277 About the only celebrity I would actually like to meet is Jay Leno. He seems like a pretty decent guy. Plus he has that killer car collection. Okay it's the car collection that's got my attention. My dream date with him is cruising around in one of his classic cars and popping into In-N-Out for burgers. I'd even pick up the tab.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:29 PM (NXz8h)

278 I felt the same way about little Leo in Titanic. When he finally went under in the freezing water, I considered it a happy ending. That imbecile should have put on a life jacket.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 11:28 PM (0Htd1)

One woulda thunk his overinflated ego would have kept him bobbing like a cork.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 11:29 PM (O9Ojb)

279
A lot of things in life piss me off. Like the *ucking dishwasher in this house we bought a few months ago. We had to read the manual to learn how to operate it. I still don't get it so hubby runs it, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:30 PM (3ek7K)

280 275 272 Thanks Jim! The more you look at, the better it gets. If you look at the lower left hand corner, you’ll see that the people standing around apparently drove there in matchbox cars.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:27 PM (47gcY)

And live in tiny gnome houses.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:28 PM (ynpvh)

Maybe the little guys and giants from "Gulliver's Travels"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:30 PM (ynpvh)

281 I've been looking for all-black New Balance shoes. Are those real? If so, where do you find them?
Posted by: MartynWW
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LOL. Yep, actual photo. Sadz they didn't get me ones with velcro.

Posted by: scampydog at June 17, 2025 11:30 PM (41CYW)

282 253 247
'The ex-wife got me to buy a ticket to watch it in a theater.

I did not laugh.'

Did she know how you felt about Michael Cera going in?
She may have got you the ticket for sadistic amusement.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 17, 2025 11:22 PM (3wi/L)

There is a certain 'if he loves me he will put up with this shit' attitude.... testing you... perpetually.

Homey done play that game anymoah

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 11:31 PM (mP0Kj)

283 >> It is a shame we can't nuke Iran

Ironically, one of our nuclear bunker busters (10 kt, tactical level range) would be the ideal thing to take out Fordow. It would do it nice and slick.

Clever little device that burrows underground a bit, and is designed for maximum coupling of the shockwave to rock. It would produce a 10 - 30 atm overpressure shock wave in undergrounds up to 200 m deep that would just, first kill everybody inside, and be like smashing a hammer into all the equipment. It wouldn't "blow it up", but it would kill everybody and destroy the equipment.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 17, 2025 11:31 PM (w6EFb)

284 Mork & Mindy sucked moose balls.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 11:16 PM (RIvkX)

The show made rainbow-colored suspenders hip. You had to be thin to wear them, though.

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 11:31 PM (gKDq2)

285 Headline1 Iran: we control the skies over Israel

Headline 2 Trump: israel is in control of the skies over Iran

Hmm not sure which one I should believe. 😄

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:31 PM (/CkK4)

286 281 I've been looking for all-black New Balance shoes. Are those real? If so, where do you find them?
Posted by: MartynWW
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LOL. Yep, actual photo. Sadz they didn't get me ones with velcro.

Posted by: scampydog at June 17, 2025 11:30 PM (41CYW)

Velcro instead of laces was the rage some years back...so kids didn't know how to tie their shoes and couldn't write in cursive and couldn't read an analog clock...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:31 PM (ynpvh)

287 Meanwhile, in Ukraine:
1. Kiev got hit hard with drones and missiles last night. They may have lost another Patriot air defense battery, which probably won't be replaced.
2. North Korea will be sending 5000 engineering troops to the Kursk region, supposedly to clear landmines and repair infrastructure. Speculation is they will actually be kept busy getting up anti-drone netting over a supply roads.
3. The Russians continue to push forward in multiple locations, including pushing back the last Ukrainian cross border incursion in the northeast.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 11:31 PM (hdoQS)

288 Anti-Trump protester reveals horrific facial injury from LA rally

What a fucking shame. Anyway...

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 11:32 PM (0Htd1)

289 285 Headline1 Iran: we control the skies over Israel

Headline 2 Trump: israel is in control of the skies over Iran

Hmm not sure which one I should believe. 😄

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:31 PM (/CkK4)

Baghdad Bob >>> Tehran Tariq

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:32 PM (ynpvh)

290 After calling the US the "great Satan" for the past 50 years, the Persians are suicidal. They just won't surrender.

Oh well.

How do you think the Cubs will do this year?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 11:33 PM (ZmEVT)

291 288 Anti-Trump protester reveals horrific facial injury from LA rally

What a fucking shame. Anyway...

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 11:32 PM (0Htd1)

Haven't seen the pics, but I probably would have assumed the face was already that way...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:33 PM (ynpvh)

292 Favorite screwball comedy: Duck Soup
Posted by: tankdemon

I had just been about to chime in and ask if no one had mentioned the Marx Bros. for screwball comedy. Good to see I don't have to.

Now I can head to bed and rest easy.

G'nite, you screwball old Horde you.

Posted by: mindful webworker - new and improved at June 17, 2025 11:33 PM (w9FUJ)

293 >>My favorite movie is Repo Man. I don't know why, lol, but I love it.

Because Repo Man is always intense.

One of my favorites as well.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 11:33 PM (PQWix)

294 Funny. You could put five of those little cars in the crashed F-35's cockpit.

The mullahs are phoning it in.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2025 11:34 PM (dDmld)

295 290 After calling the US the "great Satan" for the past 50 years, the Persians are suicidal. They just won't surrender.

Oh well.

How do you think the Cubs will do this year?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 11:33 PM (ZmEVT)

Great Satan, can you pleeeaaase tell Little Satan to stop bombing us and killing our leaders?

Posted by: Iran at June 17, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)

296 I would like to have met James Garner. Everyone who ever knew him said he was one of the best people to be around, and to work with, that they had ever met. They’d even say that if there was tension on a set between a couple of actors, or with the director, it would end as soon as Garner got there, because he just had that effect on people.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:34 PM (47gcY)

297 Can we get a moment of solidarity with the Colorado Rockies? They are on a 3 game winning streak. Current record: 16W - 57L. That is just pathetic.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:34 PM (NXz8h)

298 A movie even more surreal than Duck Soup is Million Dollar Legs, made in 1932, the year before Duck Soup. Stars W.C. Fields at his best and Jack Oakie. "Plot" deals with the 1932 LA Olympics. Great fun and screwy. 1933's International House, also starring Fields, is also crazy and outstanding.

Posted by: Old Man Adams at June 17, 2025 11:35 PM (G5+As)

299 288 Anti-Trump protester reveals horrific facial injury from LA rally

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If the doctors had to reassemble it using metal hardware, would anyone even notice?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2025 11:35 PM (dDmld)

300 297 Can we get a moment of solidarity with the Colorado Rockies? They are on a 3 game winning streak. Current record: 16W - 57L. That is just pathetic.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:34 PM (NXz8h)

which means they were 13-57 before the streak?

Posted by: Iran at June 17, 2025 11:35 PM (ynpvh)

301 299 288 Anti-Trump protester reveals horrific facial injury from LA rally

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If the doctors had to reassemble it using metal hardware, would anyone even notice?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 17, 2025 11:35 PM (dDmld)

The injuries were from the MRI machine...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:36 PM (ynpvh)

302 It really pisses me off when "celebrities" voice their opinions about how our country is run.

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I recently heard Adam Carolla interview some Asian karate man who was promoting the movie he was in. This guy was the diametric opposite of that ugly Snow White girl who ruined her company's take by running her mouth during PR hits.

Carolla does long form interviews, and the usual project plugs can't carry a conversation for too long, so he always gets in the plugs, asks about the project, and then tries to steer the interview into more interesting territory for the audience.

This guy wasn't having it. No matter what Carolla asked him, he just went back to the project. If Carolla had asked "what's your favorite fruit," he'd have answered "I can't really say, Adam. Craft Services on Mission: Impossible 5 provided the best of every fruit, and they were all equally delicious. That was the level of professionalism everywhere on this set."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:36 PM (BI5O2)

303 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 11:36 PM (pwDxY)

304 A screwball comedy that I found out about, and watched, last week is Under the Rainbow with Carrie Fischer and Chevy Chase. What I admired about everyone's performances was that every single named character was played absolutely straight. I didn't find it uproarious, but that was mostly because I have a bad habit of meta-watching (wondering if Chase was a jerk on set and thinking how sad it was that Fischer's life went so badly).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 17, 2025 11:36 PM (lFFaq)

305 It wasn't a laugh a riot like 'Good Morning Vietnam' or other films. If you hate a character because he's a creep -- and you don't laugh at him, does that make the acting successful? Some people can't play a bad guy. I was surprised Williams could.
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 11:29 PM (gKDq2)

Also liked him in Moscow on the Hudson. Trying to remember the name of the Terry Gillam movie he was in. That was a good one.

Shame his demons got the better of him...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 17, 2025 11:37 PM (bA75n)

306 North Korean land mine detection specialists: they all hold hands and walk in a straight line together across the field.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:37 PM (47gcY)

307 276

Robin Williams had a cameo in "The Secret Agent," a film version of the Joseph Conrad novella.

Williams played an anarchist, and he was brilliant. Mesmerizing.

Other than that, I never saw him in anything where I couldn't switch the channel fast enough.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 11:37 PM (kd60y)

308 303 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 11:36 PM (pwDxY)

In London...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:37 PM (ynpvh)

309 Most of them are voicing their opinions just so they can be in the news. Most of them are fucking stupid.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:24 PM (3ek7K)

Actually I think many if not most of them are voicing their "opinions" because they are paid operatives. DNC or otherwise. Recall they read scripts for a living.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 11:38 PM (E0p3T)

310 which means they were 13-57 before the streak?
Posted by: Iran

Yep. The team's emotional support dog bill must be astronomical.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:38 PM (NXz8h)

311 276 Short of his suicide, he'd be remembered as a hammy actor of yesteryear by now. Most people would say "Who? Oh yeah, him. He was funny in Mrs. Doubtfire. Sorta."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:13 PM (BI5O2)

Williams could do creepy. His role in 'One Hour Photo'. Critics, and probably audiences, hated it because it wasn't a typical Williams vehicle. But he played creepy well.

It wasn't a laugh a riot like 'Good Morning Vietnam' or other films. If you hate a character because he's a creep -- and you don't laugh at him, does that make the acting successful? Some people can't play a bad guy. I was surprised Williams could.
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 11:29 PM (gKDq2)

He was also good in Insomnia.

I like him in serious roles. It's the zany comedy stuff that grates.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 11:38 PM (xzkgE)

312
...Yep that is true.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:38 PM (3ek7K)

313 Craft Services on Mission: Impossible 5 provided the best of every fruit, and they were all equally delicious. That was the level of professionalism everywhere on this set."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:36 PM (BI5O2)

Deisney films have all kinds of fruits.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 11:38 PM (O9Ojb)

314 North Korean land mine detection specialists: they all hold hands and walk in a straight line together across the field.
Posted by: Tom Servo

That is exactly the picture I had in my mind.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:39 PM (NXz8h)

315 "How do we solve the problem of woke judges"

Take all the worthless scum criminals that get paroled or released and put them in the houses next door to judges. Hire them to work as aides in the schools that these judges' children attend.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 11:39 PM (0Htd1)

316 Don't let them fool you, it's always aliens

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 11:40 PM (pwDxY)

317
nerdygirl,

If the so-called elites had to live with what we normals had to live with and through they would be horrified.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:41 PM (3ek7K)

318 On some occasion, we are see gnomes.

The Youngs say "Grandfathers, it is empty wine bottles". Of course-this how we mark the garden plots.

The Youngs are get Discipline and Toungue-lashings from Grandmothers.

Youngs then frolic, Grandmothers discuss all, and Grandfathers cheat at cards and negotiate dowrys.

Posted by: Official Novdu Informations at June 17, 2025 11:41 PM (K6h4I)

319 We're gonna win the series!
- The Iran Rockies

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 11:41 PM (rvwwT)

320 Don't let them fool you, it's always aliens
Posted by: Skip

I need a better than James Brown wig

Posted by: Legal Alien Miklos at June 17, 2025 11:42 PM (K6h4I)

321 nerdygirl,

If the so-called elites had to live with what we normals had to live with and through they would be horrified.

Like the porta potties at a State Fair.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:42 PM (NXz8h)

322
Good Will Hunting

Every character is a piece of shit, played by pieces of shit actors.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 11:43 PM (FThf+)

323
Iran's Supreme Leader declares "the battle begins' with ominous photo on social media.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:43 PM (3ek7K)

324 >>It really pisses me off when "celebrities" voice their opinions about how our country is run.

One of the best moments in television history.

https://tinyurl.com/39eh67sj

I don't care if celebrities have opinions. We all do. I hate that they think their opinion is anymore important than mine.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 11:44 PM (PQWix)

325 Tom Servo agree with James Gardner, one of my favorite old time actors

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 11:44 PM (pwDxY)

326 It really pisses me off when "celebrities" voice their opinions about how our country is run.

Have George Clooney and Tom Hanks slunk back into our country yet? One of the great things about Trump's win, was those two getting humiliated.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 11:46 PM (0Htd1)

327
You gotta remember: All the bullshit we're hearing out of Iran comes from a handful of people who are safe & sound. The rest of them aren't feeling so cocky, I'll bet.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 11:46 PM (FThf+)

328 Thanks Jim! The more you look at, the better it gets. If you look at the lower left hand corner, you’ll see that the people standing around apparently drove there in matchbox cars.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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The plane dwarfs the buildings in the picture.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2025 11:46 PM (XeU6L)

329 oh, and the Astros are now up 7-0 against the Athletics.
Houston may as well drop their wooden bats and use those plastic ones for kids.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 11:46 PM (gKWVE)

330 For some reason, radio host Michael Savage hated Robin Williams. Called him "chicken-behind".

Posted by: Savage Nation at June 17, 2025 11:48 PM (G5+As)

331 Screwball comedies featuring Chevy Chase? Easy. "Nothing But Trouble" is always funny. He's only any good as a straight comedic foil, and he did the job in that movie. "Look handsome and dumb and let others be funny" was probably the only stage direction the man ever received.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:49 PM (BI5O2)

332 297 Can we get a moment of solidarity with the Colorado Rockies? They are on a 3 game winning streak. Current record: 16W - 57L. That is just pathetic.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:34 PM (NXz8h)

Sportsball is one of the few jobs where you can suck bigly big and still get paid millions per year.
Hollywood too I suppose.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:49 PM (/CkK4)

333
It's really surprising to me how strong these shock waves can be. From this nuclear bunker buster shock wave, we get a 10-30 atm overpressure shock wave, and that is even with very piss poor coupling between surrounding rock and the cavity of an underground room filled with air.

So, standing in there when such a shock hit, the thing would come off the walls, traveling at Mach 3 through the air. Wavelength would be around a couple inches. That thing would rip through you, hitting you like a plane hammer that travelled through your body, smashing your innards as it passed through you in microseconds.

Your innards would be mush, and your body would just collapse on the floor like a sack of mush.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 17, 2025 11:50 PM (w6EFb)

334 Just a few good thoughts or prayers my way please.

My living situation may be stable soon.

Honestly, obviously I don't want my life tossed upside down, which it has been for 5 months. But I really don't want my Mom's elderly dog Ralphy upset. Technically, my dog. In reality...Mom's.

And the visiting cat is happy here.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 11:50 PM (jvJvP)

335 Sportsball is one of the few jobs where you can suck bigly big and still get paid millions per year.

*cackle*

Posted by: Kamala! at June 17, 2025 11:50 PM (gKWVE)

336 322

There was a discussion on the ONT last night about, "Movies we feel guilty for hating."

Good Will Hunting would've been an EXCELLENT candidate!

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 11:50 PM (kd60y)

337 Sportsball is one of the few jobs where you can suck bigly big and still get paid millions per year.
Hollywood too I suppose.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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We do OK, too.

Posted by: weather people at June 17, 2025 11:50 PM (41CYW)

338 Sportsball is one of the few jobs where you can suck bigly big and still get paid millions per year.
Hollywood too I suppose.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:49 PM (/CkK4)

Politics, too.

Posted by: Kamala Harris at June 17, 2025 11:52 PM (hdoQS)

339 Willowed:

Iran Threatens a "Surprise the World Will Remember for Centuries" Tonight
—Ace

I don't want to be alarmist, but what they seem to be hinting at is dropping a nuke.
-

6:53AM here. I didn't even wake up with a glowing complexion.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 11:52 PM (BzP/F)

340 291 288 Anti-Trump protester reveals horrific facial injury from LA rally
What a fucking shame. Anyway...
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 11:32 PM (0Htd1)

Haven't seen the pics, but I probably would have assumed the face was already that way...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) a

I think he got hit in the eye with a rubber bullet. He may lose his sight in that eye. My dad went through most of his life blind in one eye. So did a cousin. It isn't that bad as disabilities go. So, that LA riot crybaby should stop blubbering.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 11:52 PM (0Htd1)

341 The plane dwarfs the buildings in the picture.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

Dwarf...plane....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ286Fpq7Fs

Posted by: Miklos just be like that at June 17, 2025 11:53 PM (K6h4I)

342 I'm at that point in life where body parts are starting to go south. Today was the kidney doctor. I'll give you the bad news first: they aren't as good as they used to be. The good news: I won't be dying from kidney disease.

Now for the complaint about doctors. Modern blood tests are flat out amazing and they tell a doctor everything about you. The downside is you don't get groped anymore. One less thing to look forward to in life. I'm not even sure why I have to go into the doctor's office. They could just mail me my test results. I'd be fine with pass/fail.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:53 PM (NXz8h)

343 There was a discussion on the ONT last night about, "Movies we feel guilty for hating."

I don't get it.

Why feel bad about hating a movie?

Full disclosure: I am a world-class hater.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 11:54 PM (xzkgE)

344 Sportsball is one of the few jobs where you can suck bigly big and still get paid millions per year.
Hollywood too I suppose.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:49 PM (/CkK4)

Politics, too.
Posted by: Kamala Harris
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Bwahahahaha
$25 Million/year

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at June 17, 2025 11:55 PM (XeU6L)

345

Wouldn't it be nice to be paid big bucks to lie??

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:55 PM (3ek7K)

346 339 Willowed:

Iran Threatens a "Surprise the World Will Remember for Centuries" Tonight
—Ace

I don't want to be alarmist, but what they seem to be hinting at is dropping a nuke.
-

6:53AM here. I didn't even wake up with a glowing complexion.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
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LOL. Glad you have your sense of humor. And you're not glowing.

Posted by: scampydog at June 17, 2025 11:55 PM (41CYW)

347 Sportsball is one of the few jobs where you can suck bigly big and still get paid millions per year.
Hollywood too I suppose.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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We do OK, too.
Posted by: weather people

Tengo muchos pesos

Posted by: Mikloso ofrece a Weathergirls Mexicanas at June 17, 2025 11:55 PM (K6h4I)

348 I've been blind in my right eye since a botched surgery in my infancy.

That Communist queer earned his. No sympathy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 11:56 PM (BI5O2)

349 Stateless,

One day at a time buddy, one at a time.

My animals always know when I am having a bad day.

I know we have selected dogs for a thousand generations that are the most adept at reading human emotions ... and modern dogs are awfully good at it.

However, even our cats know when you need a little snuggle.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 11:56 PM (HlyYF)

350 Got home today, saw the windows as the sun hit it at Justine right angle. Damn they are filthy. So I got to work. Cleaned all the windows on the bottom floor. 17 windows. Inside and out. Screens too.

Patting myself on the back right now.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:57 PM (/CkK4)

351 343

The idea is that you feel guilty for hating a film everybody else, especially our betters, thought was a masterpiece of world cinema.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 11:57 PM (kd60y)

352 Wouldn't it be nice to be paid big bucks to lie??
Posted by: four seasons

You people

Posted by: Kareem Jean-Pissior at June 17, 2025 11:57 PM (K6h4I)

353 You mean Chauncey Garner?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 11:57 PM (63Dwl)

354 I hope Trump consults with Tom Cruise before dropping the mother of all bombs on the Iranian nuke sites. I'm thinking this is at least a six camera event and Tom Cruise because of his Maverick movies would know how to pull this off.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:57 PM (NXz8h)

355
Biden's Dog,

My husband asks about you and your family. I told him you have such a great sense of humor dealing with crap ya'll are going through.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:57 PM (3ek7K)

356 Modern doctor too busy typing into F**king computer to do anything but look at lab results. Groping is extra.

Posted by: EdmundBurkeShade at June 17, 2025 11:58 PM (WvGHv)

357 345 Wouldn't it be nice to be paid big bucks to lie??

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:55 PM

Heck, I know lots of people that do it for free!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 11:58 PM (HlyYF)

358 play stupid games, win a stupid prize like a busted eyeball

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 11:58 PM (gKWVE)

359 Movie I don’t feel guilty about hating - the Crying Game. “Oh look, the grieving widow of the soldier is really a tranny, what a surprise!” Barf.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2025 12:00 AM (47gcY)

360
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:57 PM (NXz8h)

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lol. Maybe if Cruise will go on a talk show and discuss it, Trump could watch the show and Trump would find out how he should think about it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 18, 2025 12:00 AM (HuRzZ)

361 I just realized that Mexican Weathergirls do not qualify for H1b visas

Have to refile as H1DD

Posted by: Miklos lives and learns at June 18, 2025 12:00 AM (K6h4I)

362 Dwarf...plane....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ286Fpq7Fs

Posted by: Miklos
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What ever happened to him. Wasnt he in some kind of trouble?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 18, 2025 12:01 AM (XeU6L)

363 Wouldn't it be nice to be paid big bucks to lie??
Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:55 PM (3ek7K).

You mean be a congressman? I guess.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2025 12:01 AM (47gcY)

364 "Horrific facial injury" my ass. He has a gash on the cheek and a black eye. I've suffered worse than that without even getting a permanent scar.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2025 12:01 AM (BI5O2)

365 304 A screwball comedy that I found out about, and watched, last week is Under the Rainbow with Carrie Fischer and Chevy Chase. What I admired about everyone's performances was that every single named character was played absolutely straight. I didn't find it uproarious, but that was mostly because I have a bad habit of meta-watching (wondering if Chase was a jerk on set and thinking how sad it was that Fischer's life went so badly).
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 17, 2025 11:36 PM (lFFaq)

Carrie Fischer was a genuinely funny lady. Postcards from the Edge and Wishful Drinking were brutally honest assessments of her life but her wry sense of humor throughout makes it clear that she never saw herself as a victim.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 18, 2025 12:01 AM (bA75n)

366 Tell them that since you lost your eye, your thing growed.

I bet it works for Crenshaw.

Posted by: mnw at June 18, 2025 12:02 AM (kd60y)

367 I just realized that Mexican Weathergirls do not qualify for H1b visas

Have to refile as H1DD

Posted by: Miklos lives and learns
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Is there also a uniform requirement? Please say yes.

Posted by: scampydog at June 18, 2025 12:02 AM (41CYW)

368 You mean Chauncey Garner?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

*instantly thinks of Jim Rockford's idiot brother*

Posted by: Miklos does things like this at June 18, 2025 12:02 AM (K6h4I)

369
Has Iran done that thing in our mouth that they promised not to do yet?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 18, 2025 12:02 AM (Tv15w)

370 Modern doctor too busy typing into F**king computer to do anything but look at lab results. Groping is extra.
Posted by: EdmundBurkeShade
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I have just managed to stop myself from saying, 'Put that thing down, and listen to me'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 18, 2025 12:03 AM (XeU6L)

371 A story in the "nobody can do anything right any more" category:

Broke down and bought a new 6' rotary cutter for my little tractor. Old one, dating to the mid-70s had given up the ghost. Gearbox was worn out and noisy. Maybe repairable, but finding parts.... So, new one it was.

I get it. As Daddy used to say, PTO driveline had the "Ralph Nadar" safety shit all over it. They just cheaped out, putting some plastic cover on that would meet the requirements, but there was absolutely no way to get to the zerk on the U-joint at the gearbox. No way.

So, well, I'm going to have to take that off. But first, I'm going to give it a little test run. Greased everything else, and the front U-joint seemed to be full, so I figure I can run it a little to see how it does before taking the plastic crap off. It was going to be a bitch to do that.

And then, problem solved itself, turned out..... but, in a non-optimum fashion....

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 18, 2025 12:03 AM (w6EFb)

372 Is there also a uniform requirement? Please say yes.
Posted by: scampydog

Trying to get the stuff from France before the Tariffs kick in

They do housekeeping too

Posted by: Miklos anticipates a supply/demand situation at June 18, 2025 12:04 AM (K6h4I)

373 Your innards would be mush, and your body would just collapse on the floor like a sack of mush.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

So, what you're saying is, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the nuns were wasting our time by having us prepare for nuclear attack by sitting under our desks holding our geography books over our heads?

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 18, 2025 12:04 AM (0Htd1)

374
What ever happened to him. Wasnt he in some kind of trouble?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

He's dead, Mike

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 18, 2025 12:05 AM (Tv15w)

375 For all the prayer list. My friend Jim lost his 21 year old son today to drugs. He and his family could you some comfort in the form of your prayers. As a 22 year clean and sober lad this hits me hard because but for the grace of God go I.

Posted by: Pikov Andropov at June 18, 2025 12:06 AM (y7zkd)

376 And then, problem solved itself, turned out..... but, in a non-optimum fashion....
Posted by: publius

What did you run into?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 18, 2025 12:06 AM (NXz8h)

377
International hotties of repute get in on something called an O-1. This is for people of "extraordinary ability or achievement". Yanet Garcia's ass is O-1 level material.

For dudes, you have to be Einstein level to quality for O-1, at least in the day. Or Mozart talent in the arts. For babes, well, dat ass will do it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 18, 2025 12:06 AM (w6EFb)

378 >>> Dwarf...plane....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ286Fpq7Fs

=====

Thank you for linking a 4 second video on a two minute repeat, preceded by 30 seconds of advertisement.

Posted by: Turn 2 at June 18, 2025 12:06 AM (6TlG5)

379 I thought Foul Play was funny as hell.

But I'm a retard.

Posted by: eleven at June 18, 2025 12:06 AM (fV+MH)

380 What ever happened to him. Wasnt he in some kind of trouble?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 18, 2025 12:01 AM (XeU6L)

Herbe Villechaize, he died a long time ago. I remember he was in an unbelievably weird movie called Forbidden Zone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2025 12:07 AM (47gcY)

381 no way to get to the zerk on the U-joint at the gearbox. No way.

Greased everything else, and the front U-joint seemed to be full
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

Try telling the kids that these days

Posted by: Miklos , whose Grandaddy let him pretend to drive the tractor at June 18, 2025 12:07 AM (K6h4I)

382 But I seriously doubt Foul Play would still hold up.

Posted by: eleven at June 18, 2025 12:07 AM (fV+MH)

383 >> So, what you're saying is, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the nuns were wasting our time by having us prepare for nuclear attack by sitting under our desks holding our geography books over our heads?

For explosions above ground, if you were close enough for the shock wave to be that strong, you'd been in the total incineration zone anyway, with the heat pulse. Many different ways you'd be dead.

Here, it's a small nuke optimized to generate a shock wave in rock, which transmits to undeground bunker type facilities.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 18, 2025 12:08 AM (w6EFb)

384 My husband asks about you and your family. I told him you have such a great sense of humor dealing with crap ya'll are going through.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:57 PM (3ek7K)
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Thanks. We have pups in the country center metropolitan area who have it worse but keep on smiling.

However, war is war and it's not fun.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 18, 2025 12:08 AM (n+rGF)

385 My animals always know when I am having a bad day.

I know we have selected dogs for a thousand generations that are the most adept at reading human emotions ... and modern dogs are awfully good at it.

However, even our cats know when you need a little snuggle.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 11:56 PM (HlyYF)

I want to keep Ralphy happy for however long he has left.

As Snowflake, not my cat, just jumped on my bed and is sleeping with the dog.

Late bedtime...

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 18, 2025 12:08 AM (jvJvP)

386 Thank you for linking a 4 second video on a two minute repeat, preceded by 30 seconds of advertisement.
Posted by: Turn 2

If you can do better, faster, and cheaper

DOO EEET

Posted by: Miklos is Unapologetic at June 18, 2025 12:08 AM (K6h4I)

387 North Korean land mine detection specialists: they all hold hands and walk in a straight line together across the field.
Posted by: Tom Servo

That is how the IRG cleared lanes for their tanks through minefields during the Iran-Iraq war. They used the youngest recruits of course

Posted by: Kindltot at June 18, 2025 12:09 AM (D7oie)

388 That is always incredibly tragic when someone so young dies for such a stupid reason. I sad for you and his family, Pikov.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2025 12:09 AM (47gcY)

389 My elementary was probably among the very last to do those nuke drills. In 1st grade, I came home after my first one, all worried about nukes. My dad told me "if the Russians hit Pittsburgh, you and everyone you know will be dead. Just hope it doesn't happen, and don't worry if it does."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2025 12:09 AM (BI5O2)

390 Iran's Supreme Leader declares "the battle begins' with ominous photo on social media.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 11:43 PM (3ek7K)

Hey, maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, but we just got our asses kicked, pal!

Posted by: Private Hudson at June 18, 2025 12:09 AM (bA75n)

391 However, war is war and it's not fun.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole

Are they still doing 'Pizza for the IDF"?

Posted by: Miklos is not entirely broke at June 18, 2025 12:10 AM (K6h4I)

392 "Herbe Villechaize, he died a long time ago. I remember he was in an unbelievably weird movie called Forbidden Zone.
Posted by: Tom Servo"

If you think that's the weirdest thing he was in you haven't seen Greaser's Wheel.

Which is the worst movie ever made. And everyone was clearly on acid.

Posted by: eleven at June 18, 2025 12:10 AM (fV+MH)

393 But I seriously doubt Foul Play would still hold up.
Posted by: eleven
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It might. There was the albino with the candlestick scene. Wait, it wasn't that kind of movie. Nevermind.

Posted by: scampydog at June 18, 2025 12:10 AM (41CYW)

394 370 Modern doctor too busy typing into F**king computer to do anything but look at lab results. Groping is extra.
Posted by: EdmundBurkeShade
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I have just managed to stop myself from saying, 'Put that thing down, and listen to me'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 18, 2025 12:03 AM (XeU6L)

$200/hr, same as in town.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 18, 2025 12:10 AM (ynpvh)

395 375 For all the prayer list. My friend Jim lost his 21 year old son today to drugs. He and his family could you some comfort in the form of your prayers. As a 22 year clean and sober lad this hits me hard because but for the grace of God go I.
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at June 18, 2025 12:06 AM (y7zkd)

Wordless...

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 18, 2025 12:11 AM (jvJvP)

396 "Hey, maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, but we just got our asses kicked, pal!
Posted by: Private Hudson"

Iran is going full Baghdad Bob.

Posted by: eleven at June 18, 2025 12:11 AM (fV+MH)

397 For all the prayer list. My friend Jim lost his 21 year old son today to drugs. He and his family could you some comfort in the form of your prayers. As a 22 year clean and sober lad this hits me hard because but for the grace of God go I.
Posted by: Pikov Andropov
---

This has happened twice to friends of mine in the last year. Very, very hard on the parents.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 18, 2025 12:12 AM (XeU6L)

398 245 What is it with these middle east people and their "oh, you're gonna get it now"?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 11:17 PM (rvwwT)
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I was pissed off when Trump told Hamas that 'if ALL the hostages weren't released by Saturday the mother of all damnation was going to befall them' and it was just business as usual.

Posted by: Ciampino - turn to nooses at June 18, 2025 12:13 AM (sPQoU)

399 Iran is going full Baghdad Bob.
Posted by: eleven

Tehran Tina is ready for her close up just as soon as she gets the bomb dust off of burka.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 18, 2025 12:13 AM (NXz8h)

400
So, I get the new bush hog out, and engage the PTO. Luckily, I start it slow at idle, to make sure everything is turning properly, and nothing is out of whack.

And then "pow", and the PTO drive line just comes loose, bounces a bit in the plastic shield, and flops down. Plastic shield is damaged. Drive line is not. What the actual fuck?

I go back, and find the remains of the bolt securing the slip clutch assembly to the input shaft of the gear box. It's a 1/2" diameter (3/4" head) with a lock nut. It's in 3 pieces. Bolt head, middle, and nut side. I look at the breaks.

Mostly dull colored, with just some tiny little bright spots.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 18, 2025 12:13 AM (w6EFb)

401 Thanks SD. Your ONTs have a consistent shine. Appreciate your efforts to keep this motley crew energized.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 18, 2025 12:13 AM (0EU0W)

402 So, what you're saying is, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the nuns were wasting our time by having us prepare for nuclear attack by sitting under our desks holding our geography books over our heads?
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 18, 2025 12:04 AM (0Htd1)

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If only the Japanese had known about the geography book hack in '45. The war might have gone on for a couple more years.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 18, 2025 12:14 AM (dDmld)

403
New York City Comptroller Brad Lander released hours after his arrest at an immigration court

He was detained after a series of dramatic confrontations between federal law enforcement and Democrats opposing President Donald Trump's immigration policies

He went full Alex Padilla. Never go full Alex Padilla.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 18, 2025 12:15 AM (Tv15w)

404 Bwahahahaha
$25 Million/year
Posted by: Rachel Maddow

One day, Ima cut a bitch

Posted by: Rachel Maddow's Hirsresser at June 18, 2025 12:15 AM (K6h4I)

405 I think Quentin Tehran Tina is kinda over-rated.

Not sayin just sayin.

Posted by: eleven at June 18, 2025 12:15 AM (fV+MH)

406
What the hell happened? Well, some idiot, some blithering idiot, putting that thing together, overtightened that bolt to the point of the nearly wringing it off, but backed off just at the point of complete wringing off.

Now, had it held on a little more, I would've probably revved it to full speed, and put it under load, which would would've been even worse. I think the 3-point frame would've prevented that shaft from slinging out completely and hitting me in the head or something, but it would've torn up something big time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 18, 2025 12:16 AM (w6EFb)

407 Pikov Andropov, will pray. It is so awful to have a relative who is an alcoholic or a drug addict, and you can't do anything to fix them.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 18, 2025 12:16 AM (0Htd1)

408 Thanks SD. Your ONTs have a consistent shine. Appreciate your efforts to keep this motley crew energized.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude
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Trying to get my sentence reduced. Up for parole hearing soon.

Posted by: scampydog at June 18, 2025 12:16 AM (41CYW)

409 for the grace of God go I.
Posted by: Pikov Andropov

Lord, please comfort Jim and his family. Give them Your peace and Your strength.

I can relate to those demons Pikov. May our Lord give you strength to be a good friend.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 18, 2025 12:17 AM (0EU0W)

410 Mostly dull colored, with just some tiny little bright spots.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

TOP QUARITY

Posted by: Quinjiang Light Industry Limited at June 18, 2025 12:17 AM (K6h4I)

411
WTF is that *thing* that came back from the No Kings riot?

A hobgoblin?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Brie Larson's dream date

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 18, 2025 12:18 AM (Tv15w)

412 Everything's fine in Iran.

https://tinyurl.com/324hvyjh

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 18, 2025 12:18 AM (Ffc+8)

413 Trying to get my sentence reduced. Up for parole hearing soon.
Posted by: scampydog

Bribery works.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 18, 2025 12:19 AM (0EU0W)

414 My elementary was probably among the very last to do those nuke drills. In 1st grade, I came home after my first one, all worried about nukes. My dad told me "if the Russians hit Pittsburgh, you and everyone you know will be dead. Just hope it doesn't happen, and don't worry if it does."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2025 12:09 AM (BI5O2)

We lived just across the river from the Portland Airport and the fighter wing that was there at the time. Dad told us what to look out for and what to do. But... Anything more than 50kt and we
were toast.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 18, 2025 12:19 AM (W/lyH)

415 >>> If you can do better, faster, and cheaper

DOO EEET
Posted by: Miklos is Unapologetic at June 18, 2025 12:08 AM (K6h4I)

======

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ286Fpq7Fs

Posted by: Turn 2 at June 18, 2025 12:20 AM (6TlG5)

416 On the one hand, I'm glad my kids don't worry about getting vaporized in their classrooms.

On the other hand, it's much harder to sell kids who do have to worry about that a bunch of fucking tall tales about global warming, COVID, and MAGA killing them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2025 12:21 AM (BI5O2)

417
So, that solved me the trouble of taking that shaft loose to take the stupid plastic shield off so I could regularly get to the grease fitting.

These PTO shield are ridiculous. There's a way to do it right, where you can still get to it to grease it. It's possible, but a bitch. Everyone generally ends up taking them off because of it. But in this case, no attempt was made to make it possible. Oh, there was a "grease hole" in that plastic shield, but no way in hell to get a grease gun nozzle into.

Some specialized nozzle might could be made just for that, but it would've been some odd shaped thing designed just to fit that particular shield and shaft geometry.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 18, 2025 12:22 AM (w6EFb)

418
I do not recall there ever being nuke drills in my town's schools. Maybe being fifteen miles removed from a SAC Boomer Base (K I Sawyer) had something to do with it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 18, 2025 12:22 AM (Tv15w)

419 Final thought for the evening...
John the Baptist and Winnie the Pooh both had the same middle name.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 18, 2025 12:22 AM (W/lyH)

420 402 So, what you're saying is, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the nuns were wasting our time by having us prepare for nuclear attack by sitting under our desks holding our geography books over our heads?
Posted by: nerdygirl
---------------------------

Khrushchev was an idiot, Kennedy was a fool, that's the closest we've come to nuclear war ever.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 18, 2025 12:23 AM (Ffc+8)

421 My elementary was probably among the very last to do those nuke drills. In 1st grade, I came home after my first one, all worried about nukes. My dad told me "if the Russians hit Pittsburgh, you and everyone you know will be dead. Just hope it doesn't happen, and don't worry if it does."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
--------------
I got sent to the office for questioning...actually stating that diving under the desk wasn't going to work. School was near enough to Fairchild, AFB. Teacher asked me how I could be so sure. I replied, "I paid attention in science class." *Not publius level* Teacher sent me to the office. Must have been the tone of my voice.

Posted by: scampydog at June 18, 2025 12:24 AM (41CYW)

422 419 Final thought for the evening...
John the Baptist and Winnie the Pooh both had the same middle name.
Posted by: Diogenes
----

See, that's why they put you in intel.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 18, 2025 12:24 AM (Ffc+8)

423
Final thought for the evening...
John the Baptist and Winnie the Pooh both had the same middle name.

Posted by: Diogenes

Along with every king or queen who were not the first to take a particular name.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 18, 2025 12:24 AM (Tv15w)

424 I have just managed to stop myself from saying, 'Put that thing down, and listen to me'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 18, 2025 12:03 AM (XeU6L)

$200/hr, same as in town.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Somebody GONNA GET RICH

Posted by: Unenvious Miklos at June 18, 2025 12:25 AM (K6h4I)

425 Final thought for the evening...
John the Baptist and Winnie the Pooh both had the same middle name.
Posted by: Diogenes

I feel just a tad bit wiser than when I woke up this morning. Thanks Mr. D.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 18, 2025 12:25 AM (0EU0W)

426 Must have been the tone of my voice.
Posted by: scampydog at June 18, 2025 12:24 AM (41CYW)

You could've said it in dulcet tones. You were still undermining her authoritah.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2025 12:26 AM (BI5O2)

427 Final thought for the evening...
John the Baptist and Winnie the Pooh both had the same middle name.
Posted by: Diogenes
----

See, that's why they put you in intel.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 18, 2025 12:24 AM (Ffc+

***

Ha!
There may be some truth to that.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 18, 2025 12:26 AM (W/lyH)

428 Along with every king or queen who were not the first to take a particular name.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Ahem

Posted by: King Leka-Miklos Zogu I, Rightful King of All the Albanias at June 18, 2025 12:27 AM (K6h4I)

429 I don't understand. We had nuke drills in elementary and no one GAS. Never knew one person who GAS. Ike was prezzy, we ruled the world while the loud mouth Rooskies preened.

Cuban missile crisis was a different thing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 18, 2025 12:27 AM (Ffc+8)

430 419 Final thought for the evening...
John the Baptist and Winnie the Pooh both had the same middle name.

---------

Do tell.

Posted by: Aethelred the Unready at June 18, 2025 12:27 AM (dDmld)

431 Lol

Cat Snowflake is resting in a cubby hole.

Damn, she is at home here.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 18, 2025 12:28 AM (jvJvP)

432 I got sent to the office for questioning...actually stating that diving under the desk wasn't going to work. School was near enough to Fairchild, AFB. Teacher asked me how I could be so sure. I replied, "I paid attention in science class." *Not publius level* Teacher sent me to the office. Must have been the tone of my voice. Posted by: scampydog

There's a pretty direct connection between this anecdote and you ending up doing ONT posts. If your attitude had been slightly different you could have ended up being a hobo living under a railroad bridge. The good news is there's still time for that to happen.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 18, 2025 12:29 AM (NXz8h)

433 cannonball run. screwball comedy... Idiocracy as well more recent.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at June 18, 2025 12:30 AM (hftn9)

434 I remember doing tornado drills when I was scooted off to live with relatives in Missouri when I was a piker.

Posted by: eleven at June 18, 2025 12:32 AM (fV+MH)

435 My elementary was probably among the very last to do those nuke drills. In 1st grade, I came home after my first one, all worried about nukes. My dad told me "if the Russians hit Pittsburgh, you and everyone you know will be dead. Just hope it doesn't happen, and don't worry if it does."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 18, 2025 12:09 AM (BI5O2)

Even funnier. We knew, in elementary school, we were targets and GONE if it ever happened. We were living in Norfolk and one or both of our parents were either active duty or retired. The drills were to 'calm our nerves'. To us they were a joke. We did the drills. but we knew we were gone. The Norfolk Complex of Bases, Air Stations, Camps and Forts are still on everybody's target list. Whatever the latest and greatest weapon is Norfolk, for the foreseeable future, will be a target.

Posted by: RickZ at June 18, 2025 12:32 AM (gKDq2)

436 Are they still doing 'Pizza for the IDF"?

Posted by: Miklos is not entirely broke at June 18, 2025 12:10 AM (K6h4I)
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I'm sure it's still on. We also have multiple grilling for the IDF orgs.

I can just say that other borders are sort of on-hold until we're finished with Iran. Yet one of our pups headed out this morning in uniform and with his rifle.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 18, 2025 12:32 AM (n+rGF)

437 I have just managed to stop myself from saying, 'Put that thing down, and listen to me'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc

*reconsiders if I want to have a beer with Mike Hammer at Murrells Inlet where Mickey Spillane used to go*

Posted by: Miklos tries to think, but that hurts at June 18, 2025 12:32 AM (K6h4I)

438 Second year they moved us from under the desk, glass windows, out into the hall. Brick on both sides, no windows.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 18, 2025 12:33 AM (Ffc+8)

439 Second year they moved us from under the desk, glass windows, out into the hall. Brick on both sides, no windows.
Posted by: Braenyard

We got shovels and had to maintain our own fox holes. Do you know how hard it is to get A bunch of second graders to dig foxholes. Easier than you think. Every Saturday morning while our parents sobered up from the Friday night before we had to go down to the school and spiff up our foxholes, we were graded on this. True story. My word is a Biden.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 18, 2025 12:36 AM (NXz8h)

440 359 Movie I don’t feel guilty about hating - the Crying Game. “Oh look, the grieving widow of the soldier is really a tranny, what a surprise!” Barf.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2025 12:00 AM (47gcY)

Great. No point in watching it now.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2025 12:36 AM (QfvaV)

441 434 I remember doing tornado drills when I was scooted off to live with relatives in Missouri when I was a piker.

Posted by: eleven at June 18, 2025 12:32 AM (fV+MH)

Earthquake drills. They were the same as Nuke drills...duck and cover, under the desk.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 18, 2025 12:36 AM (ynpvh)

442 >>>"if the Russians hit Pittsburgh, you and everyone you know will be dead.
---

That's so fatalistic.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 18, 2025 12:36 AM (Ffc+8)

443 440 359 Movie I don’t feel guilty about hating - the Crying Game. “Oh look, the grieving widow of the soldier is really a tranny, what a surprise!” Barf.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 18, 2025 12:00 AM (47gcY)

Great. No point in watching it now.

Posted by: blaster at June 18, 2025 12:36 AM (QfvaV)

Yeah, finding out the chick...was not...
Not enough eye bleach.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 18, 2025 12:37 AM (ynpvh)

444 Iran promised a "big surprise tonight" that would be "remembered for centuries".

It's now 8:00 AM Wednesday morning in Tehran. There's been no surprise of which I'm aware.

Israel is still kicking the shit out of Iran.

Posted by: Vizzini at June 18, 2025 12:37 AM (qpyNK)

445 Cat Snowflake is resting in a cubby hole.

Damn, she is at home here.
Posted by: Stateless

When Rafferty the orphan kitty's attitude gets too far over the top, I go out and grab a cardboard box from the "stuff I don't know what to do with but I might need some day" shed and bring it inside. He ends up in the box, occasionally peaking out like a ninja assassin, every time. He often falls asleep.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 18, 2025 12:38 AM (0EU0W)

446 Posted by: Stateless.. 32%

Steady progress

Pretty good

Posted by: Project Manager Miklos at June 18, 2025 12:38 AM (K6h4I)

447 444 Iran promised a "big surprise tonight" that would be "remembered for centuries".

It's now 8:00 AM Wednesday morning in Tehran. There's been no surprise of which I'm aware.

Israel is still kicking the shit out of Iran.

Posted by: Vizzini at June 18, 2025 12:37 AM (qpyNK)

They're dredging that well the 12th Imam is supposed to come out of...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 18, 2025 12:38 AM (ynpvh)

Ministry of Silly Dances Cafe

Horses enjoy the beach.

Turtle takes on a dog. Winner: Dog. Flawless Victory.

This turtle thinks a lawnmower is just a big, loud turtle and wants to say hello.

Octopus using its camouflage.

Lazy dog 1.

Lazy dog 2.

It's not a trick, Michael -- it's an illusion.

ICYMI: Dog has a Major League swing.

ICYMI: Nosy dogs.

Baby elephant charges, but then embarrasses himself.

Dog tries to wake up his paw.

Cat misses her passed dog brother.

Golden retriever meets his new puppy brother.

Duck and little dog play.

Moo-sic appreciation.

Cuddling with rhinos.

Oscar-winning performances from cats. ❤️😂 pic.twitter.com/sYufBLWzTn
— The Best (@Thebestfigen) June 16, 2025

Baby teaches dog about sprinklers
pic.twitter.com/N0QM5aGzAX
— Science girl (@gunsnrosesgirl3) June 17, 2025

Dog playing with his new best friendpic.twitter.com/VrQmFiKcHG
— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) June 17, 2025

When you have to pee, but there's a queue. pic.twitter.com/0zJb8Cmwfz
— The Figen (@TheFigen_) June 13, 2025

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1 hmm

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (jc0TO)

2 I have seen that top picture in my inlaws front pasture before on a clear night.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:23 PM (fxlwR)

3 ND.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 08:23 PM (P9gC0)

4 My goats did NOT want to be friends with the mower.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 08:23 PM (ULPxl)

5 Windmills in space. Cool.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (Q4IgG)

6 Enjoying a glass of wine and knowing that 99.999% of what happened today is not going to change my life one iota.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (DLqye)

7 It doesn't in real life, but I always think photos of the Milky Way look like a vagina.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (KBAIt)

8 Thank you, Ace!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (0sNs1)

9 Anyone know where John Conner is?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (u73oe)

10
Willowed:

422 Tomcat was cool but the F15 and F18 were peak aircraft design.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:23 PM (A5bjg

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (A5bjg)

11 AlaBAMA,

Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 08:25 PM (PiwSw)

12 g'night allayouse, ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 08:25 PM (/Ghsb)

13 Tortoises don't know sht about pursuit angles.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 08:26 PM (fV+MH)

14 I have seen that top picture in my inlaws front pasture before on a clear night.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:23 PM (fxlwR)

—————

Your in laws hung a picture in their front pasture?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 08:26 PM (u73oe)

15 11 AlaBAMA,

Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 08:25 PM (PiwSw

THANKYOU!

I couldn't remember that one. I need to rewatch that and Tank Girl.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:26 PM (A5bjg)

16 Your in laws hung a picture in their front pasture?
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Walked right into that one. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:27 PM (fxlwR)

17 I'm looking for the man that shot my paw.

Posted by: just the punchline at June 17, 2025 08:27 PM (2yoRf)

18 Evening.

Insty linked a Twatter with a rumor that MackMood Imadinnerjacket was killed in Tehran.

If that's true than good fucking riddance. Enjoy the barbed cock of Satan, you fucking bastard.

Anyway...

Ayatollah dead yet?

Posted by: Robert at June 17, 2025 08:28 PM (4jjip)

19
Erin Go Braless

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 08:28 PM (dNwZ7)

20 Florida strikes first.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 08:31 PM (u73oe)

21 For those of you with cats, how do you handle feeding?

In winter when they were outdoor cats, I kept Trumpy and Snowflake so fed, their weight increased 50%. Snowflake blew up to 12 pounds.

Snowflake is back and staying inside. I think I have to weigh her food and feed her twice a day.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 08:32 PM (jvJvP)

22 Thanks in advance...

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 08:34 PM (jvJvP)

23 Ace, if you need a filler thread this week, surviving a nuclear apocalypse prepper thread.

Food prep: top AI recipes for hobo and squirrel jerky.

Movies/shows: Dr. Strangelove, Chernobyl, The Babushkas of Chernobyl, Fallout, The Day After, Rogue One, Blast from the Past, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.

House Prep: how to cram enough shelves for Val-U-Rite and whiskey into your fallout shelter without collapsing them.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 08:34 PM (Eng1Z)

24 Erin Go Braless
Posted by: Soothsayer
=====

Pantless, braless. As long as she keeps commenting I'm good.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 08:37 PM (n4GiU)

25 @23 Filler thread movie addition: Failsafe

House Prep: Safely storing bottles to deal with shocks and aftershocks.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 08:37 PM (S/Y4j)

26 Go ahead, assholes, nuke us. Maybe it'll make this damned rain stop for a few hours at least.

Seriously I haven't seen the sun since March. Come on. Do us a favor, nutbags.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 08:37 PM (BcT2b)

27 Space hunter has the great Michael Ironside as the bad guy.I remember seeing it in the theater, the 1980's 3d resurgence.

Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 08:37 PM (YwEeS)

28 I let them open feed. They get wet food once a day and I leave kibble out. If Snowflake seems to be chowing down too much, just put the kibble up at a certain time.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 08:37 PM (AcTAo)

29 Best apocalypse movie is " The Book of Eli".

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:37 PM (DLqye)

30 Biden appointed federal judge issues order blocking Trump administration’s policy of requiring individuals use their biological sex on passports.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 08:38 PM (u73oe)

31 It doesn't in real life, but I always think photos of the Milky Way look like a vagina.
Posted by: BurtTC

Okay, I'll bite - what do Georgia O'Keefe paintings look like?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 08:38 PM (cYBz/)

32 You may think that baby is cute, but he's an isolationist.

Posted by: wat at June 17, 2025 08:38 PM (Dk542)

33 🏳️‍🌈 🇵🇸 politics critiquer #bensonorbust @Politics_1999
Replying to @joma_gc @LinkofSunshine
It’s ok when we institute reconstruction 2.0 you will be forcibly reeducated until you renounce your cancerous ways
Jun 18, 2025 · 12:24 AM UTC

x.com/Politics_1999/status/1935131429505032510

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 08:38 PM (gKWVE)

34 So is the lack of this evening’s projected Armageddon going to deprive me of my hookup with Solomia Maievska?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:38 PM (77rzZ)

35 My cats are not the type to over eat so i have bowls of food out all the time plus i give wet at mealtimes. You can look up to see if your cats are overweight -- the ones you have may just be working back to natural weight. You should be able to just feel the ribcage.

12 pounds is not too bad for a normal male cat, or even a female tho they are lighter than males by a few pounds. For wet a small 3.5 oz or a bit less per meal is about what mine eat per cat. 2 meals a day.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:39 PM (8avO+)

36 31 It doesn't in real life, but I always think photos of the Milky Way look like a vagina.
Posted by: BurtTC

Okay, I'll bite - what do Georgia O'Keefe paintings look like?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 08:38 PM (cYBz/)

Twix.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 08:39 PM (BcT2b)

37 9 Anyone know where John Conner is?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (u73oe)

Shouldn't he be around 40 by now?

He should be with his wife in a bunker near Vegas somewhere by now.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:39 PM (6ydKt)

38 Videos

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 08:40 PM (FqNtp)

39 Oh, I guess I should say that I use those little ramkins, that you might bake an egg in, to hold kibble. So they have access to a little less than a cup of kibble.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 08:40 PM (AcTAo)

40 28 I let them open feed. They get wet food once a day and I leave kibble out. If Snowflake seems to be chowing down too much, just put the kibble up at a certain time.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 08:37 PM (AcTAo)

Thanks.

I'll also keep weighing her a couple of times a week like a pageant Mom.

I don't know what's happening long term...

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 08:40 PM (jvJvP)

41 I let them open feed. They get wet food once a day and I leave kibble out. If Snowflake seems to be chowing down too much, just put the kibble up at a certain time.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 08:37 PM (AcTAo)

or use smaller bowls for the free feeding instead of measuring.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:40 PM (8avO+)

42 Go ahead, assholes, nuke us. Maybe it'll make this damned rain stop for a few hours at least.
--------
Who'll stop the rain??

Wet March here but a dry June so far. It's coldish at night though so the lawns have only started browning a few days ago.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 08:41 PM (2yoRf)

43 30 Biden appointed federal judge issues order blocking Trump administration’s policy of requiring individuals use their biological sex on passports.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 08:38 PM (u73oe)
----
Easy fix. At passport station, if the person's sex is obviously not what the passport says, just tell it the passport is invalid.

Posted by: Ciampino - Do not pass port at June 17, 2025 08:41 PM (sPQoU)

44 " I always think photos of the Milky Way look like a vagina.
Posted by: BurtTC"

Photos always make my sword look bigger too.

Posted by: Orion at June 17, 2025 08:42 PM (vFG9F)

45 12 pounds is not too bad for a normal male cat, or even a female tho they are lighter than males by a few pounds. For wet a small 3.5 oz or a bit less per meal is about what mine eat per cat. 2 meals a day.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:39 PM (8avO+)

Very good to know. Thank you for the information.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 08:42 PM (jvJvP)

46 My cats get wet food only and you know what I don't have? Hairball pukes, blockages or coat problems.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:43 PM (DLqye)

47 30 Biden appointed federal judge issues order blocking Trump administration’s policy of requiring individuals use their biological sex on passports.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 08:38 PM (u73oe)

At a certain point, we're going to have to take some of these jerkoffs out of their chambers and say "That ruling was officially so stupid that EVERY ruling you have ever made in your entire career is now vacated and you are hereby prohibited from ever having anything to do with the judicial system ever again."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 08:44 PM (BcT2b)

48 Thanks.

I'll also keep weighing her a couple of times a week like a pageant Mom.

I don't know what's happening long term...
Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 08:40 PM (jvJvP)

As an ex stray she might have a psychologic thing and eat whatever she can find as fast as possible. If so, youll have to limit how much is out there to consume at any one time.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:44 PM (8avO+)

49 Hey, Stateless. Hope you are well.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:44 PM (77rzZ)

50
Perverts can argue about gender being a "social construct," but one's sex is inarguable.

If a form asks what Sex you are, you list male or female, according to your biology.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 08:45 PM (dNwZ7)

51 Make sure to bring a spare pair of glasses to the apocalypse.

Posted by: Zombie Burgess Meredith at June 17, 2025 08:46 PM (63Dwl)

52 photos of the Milky Way look like a vagina.
A milky one?
Wizard's Sleeve constellation.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 08:46 PM (Zmeii)

53 My cats get wet food only and you know what I don't have? Hairball pukes, blockages or coat problems.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:43 PM (DLqye)

Wet helps them get the water they need to head off Kidney issues.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:46 PM (8avO+)

54
For those of you with cats, how do you handle feeding?

Posted by: Stateless

==================

Leave water and dry food out all the time. My cat only eats dry food, so it's easy.

If they like wet food, just give it to them whenever they want. Let them get fat, so what?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 08:47 PM (wbZPZ)

55 I was thinking about the reports that Khamenei is very confused and anguished about the fact that Israel has been kicking Iran's ass.

Well, you idiot, it's because you're putting your faith in a medieval fantasy.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 08:47 PM (s8j++)

56 @51, I saw that episode of TZ.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:47 PM (DLqye)

57 39 Oh, I guess I should say that I use those little ramkins, that you might bake an egg in, to hold kibble. So they have access to a little less than a cup of kibble.
------
Like Dr Niles Crane's greyhound that looks like Maris??

https://tinyurl.com/3dtuuchb
photo

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 08:48 PM (2yoRf)

58 My two cats get dry in the morning and a can of wet in the evening.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:48 PM (BNLtx)

59 Octopus using its camouflage.

Did you hear about the octopus who stole a 64-count box of Crayola crayons?

He exploded.

Posted by: grade-school mikeski at June 17, 2025 08:49 PM (DgGvY)

60 Ahmedinejad's finest moment was when he went on a mullah apologia tour around American colleges to preach his "antizionist" bilge. At some point he claimed there were no gays in Iran.
He got booed by the leftists he was trying to court.
Anyway, in Gehenna, he's really not going to like Thursdays.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 08:50 PM (gKWVE)

61 Leave water and dry food out all the time. My cat only eats dry food, so it's easy.

If they like wet food, just give it to them whenever they want. Let them get fat, so what?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 08:47 PM (wbZPZ

She really only eats dry food too.

Technically, she is not my cat so I'd like to keep her about her current weight.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 08:50 PM (jvJvP)

62 It doesn't in real life, but I always think photos of the Milky Way look like a vagina.
Posted by: BurtTC

--

Funny, it looks like a halved and roasted artichoke to me. Oh, wait...

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 08:50 PM (wzAuc)

63 52 photos of the Milky Way look like a vagina.
A milky one?

Eww. That's just wrong.

Posted by: RAWMUSLGLUTES at June 17, 2025 08:51 PM (gKWVE)

64 Technically, she is not my cat so I'd like to keep her about her current weight.
Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 08:50 PM (jvJvP)

But, technically, you are her human.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 08:51 PM (on8Xq)

65 My two cats get dry in the morning and a can of wet in the evening.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:48 PM (BNLtx)

One of mine only rarely eats the meals of wet food. He feeds from the dry bowls about the house. My other cats will nibble the wet dishes and let any latecomers get food too. They will share a larger plate too.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:51 PM (8avO+)

66 49 Hey, Stateless. Hope you are well.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:44 PM (77rzZ

I am cautiously optimistic.

I hope you are well too.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 08:52 PM (jvJvP)

67 Yes, the ramekins look like that. It's more important to give wet food to neutered males to prevent urinary blockage. But my inside cat is 14 and has had teeth removed so she gets wet too.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 08:53 PM (AcTAo)

68 66 Stateless, I’m OK. Thanks.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:54 PM (77rzZ)

69 But, technically, you are her human.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 08:51 PM (on8Xq

She does come up and sleeps with me and the dog various times at night.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 08:54 PM (jvJvP)

70 I have forgotten how mischievous those kittehs can be.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 08:55 PM (RIvkX)

71 And the stray that is auditioning to be my new cat is a male. Will make it easier to get him fixed anyway.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 08:55 PM (AcTAo)

72 The priciest dry cat food contains barley and sorghum. Tell me they would pick that on their own?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:55 PM (DLqye)

73
Dot got a bath today to release her, so to speak, from the stigma of being in season.

And Diana went in to the doggie chiropractor for us to consult about the path forward after her MRI. Unfortunately it looks like a chronic problem we can only mitigate, not cure.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 08:55 PM (QnmlO)

74 Yes, the ramekins look like that. It's more important to give wet food to neutered males to prevent urinary blockage. But my inside cat is 14 and has had teeth removed so she gets wet too.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 08:53 PM (AcTAo)

I remember when a cat got most of the teeth pulled and came home from the vet, woozy and all and started eating the dry before I could even open a can of wet.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:55 PM (8avO+)

75 my new cat is a male. Will make it easier to get him fixed anyway.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Or more accurately - "broken".

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 08:56 PM (cYBz/)

76
My cats get wet food only and you know what I don't have? Hairball pukes, blockages or coat problems.
Posted by: Ben Had

Hi Ben Had!

MegaRoy open / free grazes on about a cup of dry food per 24 hour period, he also gets about half a foil packet of bisque wet food mixed with a 1/4 teaspoon of clear fiber and a dose (1x day) of probiotic. He's a big boy at 16.5 pounds, but he's a Maine Coon and that is kinda smallish for the breed.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 17, 2025 08:56 PM (MsrgL)

77
2-0 Florida

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 08:56 PM (QnmlO)

78 The priciest dry cat food contains barley and sorghum. Tell me they would pick that on their own?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:55 PM (DLqye)

Well my cats do choose huge pine needles and grass blades to chew on. They might be tiny cows.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:56 PM (8avO+)

79 Enough with the cat talk already.

Boobs!

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:57 PM (77rzZ)

80 🏳️‍🌈 🇵🇸 politics critiquer #bensonorbust @Politics_1999
Replying to @joma_gc @LinkofSunshine
It’s ok when we institute reconstruction 2.0 you will be forcibly reeducated until you renounce your cancerous ways
Jun 18, 2025 · 12:24 AM UTC
x.com/Politics_1999/status/1935131429505032510
Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 08:38 PM (gKWVE)

No doubt they envision it looking like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS8c6hLj7uA

And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZLGj6BV1Os

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 08:57 PM (Eng1Z)

81 So Ray Miland, in "Panic in Year Zero!", just bought $192.03 worth of groceries from the old man's store so they could ride out the nuclear war.
This was in 1962.

That would be exactly $2024.51 in 2025 dollars.

No wonder the old man was so happy... for a few hours anyhow.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:57 PM (6ydKt)

82 'Cuddling with Rhinos'.

Is that what Stacey Abrams dates are calling it?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 08:58 PM (zZu0s)

83 Turtle takes on a dog. Winner: Dog. Flawless Victory.

WWF announcer: "Dog, what do you call that finishing move?"

Dog: "A souplex."

Posted by: mikeski at June 17, 2025 08:58 PM (DgGvY)

84 Oldcat, every stray that showed up here shat crickets and grasshoppers.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:59 PM (DLqye)

85 She does come up and sleeps with me and the dog various times at night.

Posted by: Stateless..

=====

What you've got there is a trusting pet. Like it or not, intentional or not, the cat has decided you're cool.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 17, 2025 08:59 PM (8AONa)

86 I fed Taste of the Wild Trout and Salmon or the venison/ salmon. I usually alternate. They are grain free. There are some odd ingredients but no sweetners. Fanny is allergic to chicken, so I try and stick with fish based.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 08:59 PM (AcTAo)

87
What are those silly flags in that threatening tweet?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 09:00 PM (QnmlO)

88 Bif, hugs to you and Smash. My boy kitty weights in at 20 lbs of muscle.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 09:01 PM (DLqye)

89 Oldcat, every stray that showed up here shat crickets and grasshoppers.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:59 PM (DLqye)

Us boys used to catch the big locust hoppers and feed them to the male cat Tigger while the sisters ran away from the crunching sound.

Around here its more lizards and the odd rodent or bird.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 09:01 PM (8avO+)

90 I'm feeding two strays as well and they really don't eat that much kibble. It seems I also fed the neighbor's chocolate lab when it got loose today. Saw it on the game cam. And the grackles eat cat food, but less since the mulberries got ripe

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 09:04 PM (AcTAo)

91
I'm making a 21 ingredient Gumbo tomorrow but there's no Okra in it.

My wife's first comment will be "Where's the Okra?'

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 09:05 PM (j4U/Z)

92 Turtle fucked around and found out.

Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 09:05 PM (YwEeS)

93 Enough with the cat talk already.

Boobs!
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:57 PM (77rzZ)

Tittles!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 09:06 PM (S/Y4j)

94 Enough with the cat talk already."

Prometh... whoops

Posted by: man at June 17, 2025 09:07 PM (tubbA)

95 I can’t wait to see the turf war in the Trump admin between the Ministry of Silly Dances and the Ministry of Silly Little Hats.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:07 PM (77rzZ)

96 I love Prometheus. Never has a movie put me to sleep faster.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 09:09 PM (DLqye)

97 Wonderful. Something called the Asian longhorn tick has been found in our little corner of Michigan.

'Asian' . . . .

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 17, 2025 09:10 PM (8AONa)

98 @Faytuks
1h
The Khojir Missile Production Complex southeast of Tehran has been struck by Israeli strikes tonight, causing a huge fire

Coords: 35°41'37.14"N 51°36'40.27"E

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 09:10 PM (Ffc+8)

99 What you've got there is a trusting pet. Like it or not, intentional or not, the cat has decided you're cool.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 17, 2025 08:59 PM (8AONa)

Thanks so much.

I love her too...

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 09:12 PM (jvJvP)

100 Asian ticks and carp in Michigan seems like a pattern.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 09:12 PM (DLqye)

101 Incredible no-fear/no-harm relationship between babies and dogs.

I'm not a parent. Does anyone know how babies react to wild animals? Are the babies innocently trusting and fascinated?

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:12 PM (aBgBM)

102 Iran has unleashed their ultimate weapon. It's this actual New York Post headline:

Barbra Streisand ‘can’t remember’ if she ‘actually had penetration’ with Warren Beatty

Trump needs to open up the strategic brain bleach reserve, pronto.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 17, 2025 09:13 PM (jbPJz)

103 Asian ticks and carp in Michigan seems like a pattern.

Posted by: Ben Had

====

And the Ash Borer.

Grumble grumble

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 17, 2025 09:14 PM (8AONa)

104 97 Wonderful. Something called the Asian longhorn tick has been found in our little corner of Michigan.

'Asian' . . . .
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 17, 2025 09:10 PM (8AONa

Outside of shooting range of Detroit?

Where my late Mother grew up.....

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 09:14 PM (jvJvP)

105 > The Khojir Missile Production Complex southeast of Tehran has been struck by Israeli strikes tonight, causing a huge fire

Coords: 35°41'37.14"N 51°36'40.27"E
--------
Imagine the Horde with their own ballistic missiles.

Such.... well, we all know what it'd be.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:15 PM (Q4IgG)

106 Gref, the fastest way to disarm an aggressive or uncertain animal is to get below their eye level.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 09:16 PM (DLqye)

107 Outside of shooting range of Detroit?

Where my late Mother grew up.....

Posted by: Stateless..

=====

Southwest corner, 3 hours or so west of Motown.

"Refugee" refers to leaving that area as the auto industry did one of their meltdowns.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 17, 2025 09:18 PM (8AONa)

108 Imagine the Horde with their own ballistic missiles.

Such.... well, we all know what it'd be.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:15 PM (Q4IgG)

We would be serious threats to enemies. Weasel's long-range shooting tutorial teaches just about everything you need to know to hit targets with a ballistic projectile at any range.

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:19 PM (aBgBM)

109 Babies laughing is the sweetest sound.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 09:19 PM (mxvzO)

110 If Iran had a bomb they would have blown themselves up by now.

Posted by: jsg at June 17, 2025 09:19 PM (GrEml)

111 The bomb....

Posted by: jsg at June 17, 2025 09:19 PM (GrEml)

112 106 Gref, the fastest way to disarm an aggressive or uncertain animal is to get below their eye level.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 09:16 PM (DLqye)

Thanks for the tip. I will not forget this.

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:21 PM (aBgBM)

113 I just saw a firefly- in the middle of rain. You'd think they would not fly.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 09:22 PM (CA3k/)

114 78 The priciest dry cat food contains barley and sorghum.

I don’t feed dry food at all to my cats, but some grains for cats are okay. As you know, they aren’t carnivores. The are obligate omnivores, so they would get veggies and grains in a whole prey diet. Mine get canned and raw. I would prefer sorghum in my dog food as a grain over pea fiber and wood filler.

I spend a boat load of money on cat food and now dog food. Yet village dogs are out there eating scraps and doing fine, lol.

Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 09:23 PM (p4NUW)

115 106 Gref, the fastest way to disarm an aggressive or uncertain animal is to get below their eye level.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 09:16 PM (DLqye)

I've never heard that before but I have heard not to stare at a predator.

I just had a coyote here about a month ago killing chickens and my husband was after it on one side of the house and I didn't know it and reacted by screaming at it and chasing it away and that monster coyote came back and stared me down. I didn't move because by then I figured out my husband was on it and I wanted him to take care of it. He only got one shot and he missed but he chased that thing for two miles.
He was a bold one and he killed 6 chickens that day.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 09:23 PM (mxvzO)

116 What. No UTM grids?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 09:24 PM (P9gC0)

117 "Refugee" refers to leaving that area as the auto industry did one of their meltdowns.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 17, 2025 09:18 PM (8AONa)

My Mom's family fled in the 1980's when asshole Coleman Young, rot in hell, made the city uncomfortable for whites and caused the 'White Flight.'

But the city has been a Paradise since then.....

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 09:24 PM (jvJvP)

118 113 I just saw a firefly- in the middle of rain. You'd think they would not fly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 09:22 PM (CA3k/)

Why does that sound like an Artist formerly known as Prince Song lyric?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 09:24 PM (mP0Kj)

119 Col. Nathan McCormack, the Levant and Egypt branch chief removed from the Joint Chiefs of Staff’s J5 planning directorate.

https://tinyurl.com/mr2jj2ws

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 09:26 PM (Ffc+8)

120
It's a warm night in Michigan, my neighbor just called and wants to smoke down the last of his Garcia Vega Robustos and drink bourbon on my back deck.

Damn the ticks and to hell with Iranian surprises.

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 09:27 PM (j4U/Z)

121 Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 09:23 PM (p4NUW)

Hi Piper!

Once my living situation is stable, I'll be better able to decide on all this other stuff. Right now, they are happy and alive...

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 09:28 PM (jvJvP)

122 My Mom's family fled in the 1980's when asshole Coleman Young, rot in hell, made the city uncomfortable for whites and caused the 'White Flight.'

But the city has been a Paradise since then.....

Posted by: Stateless.. 32%

=====

That guy. What a piece of work.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 17, 2025 09:28 PM (8AONa)

123 Why does that sound like an Artist formerly known as Prince Song lyric?
Posted by: Romeo13

He changed his name back, and then ODed, so he's "the Former Artist formerly known as formerly known as Prince."

Posted by: mikeski at June 17, 2025 09:29 PM (DgGvY)

124 Damn the ticks and to hell with Iranian surprises.
Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 09:27 PM (j4U/Z)

Have fun!

I hang with my friend Thursday.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 09:29 PM (jvJvP)

125 G’night, All.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:30 PM (77rzZ)

126 125 G’night, All.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:30 P

Sleep well Bulg!

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 09:31 PM (jvJvP)

127 Thanks, Stateless. You, too.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:31 PM (77rzZ)

128 121 Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 09:23 PM (p4NUW)

Hi Piper!

Once my living situation is stable, I'll be better able to decide on all this other stuff. Right now, they are happy and alive...
Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from

Hi stateless! And they are doing better than any dig and cat without a home, so you are doing a great job. I am just crazy with this stuff lol.

Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 09:36 PM (pZEOD)

129 DJ: Here's a video request from the IDF to the Iranian Military

https://youtu.be/iIpfWORQWhU

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 09:37 PM (S/Y4j)

130 Imagine the Horde with their own ballistic missiles.

Such.... well, we all know what it'd be.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:15 PM (Q4IgG)

We would be serious threats to enemies. Weasel's long-range shooting tutorial teaches just about everything you need to know to hit targets with a ballistic projectile at any range.
Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:19 PM

You know we would disappoint him with insufficient attention to fundamentals.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 09:37 PM (0sNs1)

131 Random IDF Clip:

https://tinyurl.com/45xf2a4v

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 09:37 PM (Ffc+8)

132 You know what is natural to a carnivorous animal? They don't eat everyday.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 09:40 PM (DLqye)

133 We wants Presdent obama back now. Trump is going to gets all of killed. Let's gets rid of that steped constitution thing and impeech Trump and makes Presdent Obama are leeder fprever.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at June 17, 2025 09:40 PM (q/j2W)

134 You know we would disappoint him with insufficient attention to fundamentals.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

At least missiles aren't prone to wobbly-shit issues.

Posted by: mikeski at June 17, 2025 09:41 PM (DgGvY)

135 We would be serious threats to enemies. Weasel's long-range shooting tutorial teaches just about everything you need to know to hit targets with a ballistic projectile at any range.
Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:19 PM

You know we would disappoint him with insufficient attention to fundamentals.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 09:37 PM (0sNs1)
----
I think most of us would sit back in awe as the 'Ettes took care of business.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 09:41 PM (GlyvH)

136 Barbra Streisand ‘can’t remember’ if she ‘actually had penetration’ with Warren Beatty

Trump needs to open up the strategic brain bleach reserve, pronto.
Posted by: Ian S.

We need common sense penetration control!!

Wise counsel for all of us.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 09:41 PM (cYBz/)

137 Sometimes the Great Big News stories don't seem to matter compared to the current day in the life.

Posted by: mindful webworker - satisfaction guaranteed at June 17, 2025 09:43 PM (agX+n)

138 Babs banged Beatty like an ape.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 17, 2025 09:43 PM (dR6yv)

139 Ministry of Silly Dances Cafe
—Ace

We do not approve of this frivolous nonsense.

Posted by: Ministry of stackingthings on top of other things at June 17, 2025 09:44 PM (m0WlR)

140 130 Imagine the Horde with their own ballistic missiles

Those bugs in Michigan would be so screwed.
Overkill?
Sure! But we have freaking ballistic missiles!

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 09:46 PM (jvJvP)

141
3-0 FLA

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 09:50 PM (QnmlO)

142 I think most of us would sit back in awe as the 'Ettes took care of business.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 09:41 PM (GlyvH)

Based on my reading of past threads, the supply would be quickly exhausted by AtC firing one every time she saw a spider.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 17, 2025 09:52 PM (jGGMD)

143 >>> 130 Imagine the Horde with their own ballistic missiles.

Such.... well, we all know what it'd be.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:15 PM (Q4IgG)

We would be serious threats to enemies. Weasel's long-range shooting tutorial teaches just about everything you need to know to hit targets with a ballistic projectile at any range.
Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:19 PM

You know we would disappoint him with insufficient attention to fundamentals.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 09:37 PM (0sNs1)

Is it ok as long as we have *no* wobbly shit?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 09:52 PM (ULPxl)

144 Cats are carnivores. Sugars and starches are incidental to their diet.

https://www.foodfurlife.com/
the-natural-diet-of-the-cat.html#/

Posted by: Ciampino - Do not pass grass at June 17, 2025 09:54 PM (sPQoU)

145 Imagine the Horde with their own ballistic missiles.

Such.... well, we all know what it'd be.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:15 PM (Q4IgG)
___________________________

I'd like to go on record to say that I do not believe this is a good idea. Although....there would be fewer trolls in the comments. But, the true problem would come from the weekend garden thread. I've seen what envy can do to people. One moment, a lovely plot of healthy tomato plants. The next a smoking crater of...well, ....nothing.

Posted by: Orson at June 17, 2025 09:57 PM (dIske)

146 142

Hi, Doc

I saw Hawley on FOX News tonight. Made me SOOO glad McCaskill is now a seldom seen MSNBC commentator.

Ditto (cubed!) with Thune and Daschle.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 09:57 PM (kd60y)

147 144 Cats are carnivores. Sugars and starches are incidental to their diet.

https://www.foodfurlife.com/
the-natural-diet-of-the-cat.html#/
Posted by: Ciampino - Do not pass grass at June 17, 2025 09:54 PM (sPQoU

Thank you.
I'll look into this later.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 09:58 PM (jvJvP)

148
I wish I could buy a bushel of wild cats and release them in my yard.

You know, for rodent control.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 09:58 PM (dtvVE)

149 Bananas out for Harambe

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 17, 2025 09:58 PM (wXs61)

150 We would be serious threats to enemies. Weasel's long-range shooting tutorial teaches just about everything you need to know to hit targets with a ballistic projectile at any range.
Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:19 PM

You know we would disappoint him with insufficient attention to fundamentals.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 09:37 PM (0sNs1)
----
I think most of us would sit back in awe as the 'Ettes took care of business.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 09:41 PM (GlyvH)

You know Ben Had probably wouldn't allow a clinic in the TxMoMe, right? Or am I completely wrong?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 09:59 PM (S/Y4j)

151 I saw Hawley on FOX News tonight. Made me SOOO glad McCaskill is now a seldom seen MSNBC commentator.

Ditto (cubed!) with Thune and Daschle.
Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 09:57 PM (kd60y)

Hey, mnw

I was willing to write off all the rest of the 2018 elections as long as we got that harpy out of the Senate. I worked on the 2006 reelection campaign for Jim Talent, so I always took her being there personally.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (jGGMD)

152 >>> 150
==
You know Ben Had probably wouldn't allow a clinic in the TxMoMe, right? Or am I completely wrong?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 09:59 PM (S/Y4j)

The best way to find out is to come to the TX MoMee.

....say, have I mentioned this year will be the *tenth* TX MoMee???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (ULPxl)

153 Barbra Streisand ‘can’t remember’ if she ‘actually had penetration’ with Warren Beatty

Trump needs to open up the strategic brain bleach reserve, pronto.
Posted by: Ian S.

Warren Beatty sure as hell won't remember with all the tail he's had.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (sAmhv)

154 NOOD

ONT

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (ULPxl)

155 I always think photos of the Milky Way look like a vagina.

Posted by: BurtTC

I know what you mean. Who keeps posting these dirty pictures all over the internet?

Posted by: Bombadil at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (MX0bI)

156 ONT

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 10:00 PM (3ek7K)

157 NOOD ONT

Posted by: Ciampino - Do not pass grass at June 17, 2025 10:01 PM (sPQoU)

158 Hour of the Wolf, shooting at the TXMoMe starts with Weasel clinics and the best RSO's in the world.if

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 10:02 PM (DLqye)

Iran Threatens a "Surprise the World Will Remember for Centuries" Tonight

I don't want to be alarmist, but what they seem to be hinting at is dropping a nuke.

Breaking911
@Breaking911
IRANIAN STATE MEDIA: "There is a surprise tonight that the world will remember for centuries."

They also posted a video of a hand stroking a nuclear warhead.

ربما..
Maybe pic.twitter.com/tB02PrPbp1
— إيران بالعربية (@iraninarabic_ir) June 17, 2025

Is this real or just an empty threat? A last second bluff?

I think it's probably a bluff. Or maybe it's a half-bluff: Maybe they have built a nuclear weapon but have never tested it and have no idea if it will work or not. And they're threatening to test it tonight on their enemies.

Bonchie:

When a nation led by Islamist lunatics says they are going to launch a nuke, that's not something you can just write off as rhetoric. No doubt, Israeli and American forces are on high alert, and all possible countermeasures are ready to be used.
This does seem to put to bed the idea claimed by isolationists that the entire case against Iran is manufactured and that they had no intention of developing a nuclear weapon. As the vice president, who is the furthest thing from a warhawk, explained on Tuesday, the intelligence they've seen is clear, and even if it weren't, there is no other reasonable explanation for the levels of enrichment Iran has sought and achieved.

I do not understand the near-religious commitment of the Neopaulites to the idea that Iran just wants to be left alone and if we just leave them alone they'll leave us alone. They've been directing terrorist attacks against us for 46 years, and have repeatedly vowed to destroy "The Great Satan."

They also believe that the 12th Mahdi will only arise after Iran proves itself worthy be defeating the West.

Let's pray it doesn't come to that.

My guess is that this is an 11th hour bluff from a regime that is falling and desperately needs the US to retrain Israel to save it.

But I'm nowhere near certain of that. They might be planning on packing all of their enriched uranium into warheads and hitting Israel and US bases with highly radioactive dirty bombs.

JD Vance is positioning himself as a Neopaulite, against military action in nearly all if not all circumstances, but he's weighed in: Iran has no plausible reason for enriching uranium to nuclear-bomb-grade except for producing a nuclear bomb.

JD Vance
@JDVance
Look, I'm seeing this from the inside, and am admittedly biased towards our president (and my friend), but there's a lot of crazy stuff on social media, so I wanted to address some things directly on the Iran issue:
First, POTUS has been amazingly consistent, over 10 years, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Over the last few months, he encouraged his foreign policy team to reach a deal with the Iranians to accomplish this goal. The president has made clear that Iran cannot have uranium enrichment. And he said repeatedly that this would happen one of two ways--the easy way or the "other" way.
Second, I've seen a lot of confusion over the issue of "civilian nuclear power" and "uranium enrichment." These are distinct issues. Iran could have civilian nuclear power without enrichment, but Iran rejected that. Meanwhile, they've enriched uranium far above the level necessary for any civilian purpose. They've been found in violation of their non-proliferation obligations by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which is hardly a rightwing organization.
It's one thing to want civilian nuclear energy. It's another thing to demand sophisticated enrichment capacity. And it's still another to cling to enrichment while simultaneously violating basic non-proliferation obligations and enriching right to the point of weapons-grade uranium.
I have yet to see a single good argument for why Iran needed to enrich uranium well above the threshold for civilian use. I've yet to see a single good argument for why Iran was justified in violating its non-proliferation obligations. I've yet to see a single good pushback against the IAEA's findings.
Meanwhile, the president has shown remarkable restraint in keeping our military's focus on protecting our troops and protecting our citizens.
He may decide he needs to take further action to end Iranian enrichment. That decision ultimately belongs to the president. And of course, people are right to be worried about foreign entanglement after the last 25 years of idiotic foreign policy.
But I believe the president has earned some trust on this issue. And having seen this up close and personal, I can assure you that he is only interested in using the American military to accomplish the American people's goals. Whatever he does, that is his focus.

Naturally occurring uranium comes in a lot of different atomic weights. Some of these isotopes are not suitable for a bomb. Only a couple can be used in a bomb. "Enrichment" consists of increasing the fraction of the highly unstable isotopes in uranium so that it can be detonated in a nuclear explosion. Power-producing reactors do not need uranium to be so high in heavy unstable isotopes. Only bombs do.

Iran is lying when they claim they just want to enrich uranium up to bomb-grade just to power their reactors. Reactors do not require enriched uranium. Only bombs do.

Posted by: Ace at 07:23 PM

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1 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 17, 2025 07:23 PM (GYt5+)

2 2nd

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 17, 2025 07:23 PM (GYt5+)

3 3rd

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 17, 2025 07:23 PM (GYt5+)

4 I doubt it

Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 07:24 PM (YwEeS)

5 Good thing I stocked up on bottle caps.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:25 PM (A5bjg)

6 I checked it's almost 3 am in Tehran, do they mean tomorrow?

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 07:25 PM (v2VfP)

7 Well my days of not taking this seriously have definitely come to a middle.

Posted by: Don't like it. Nope. at June 17, 2025 07:25 PM (TbWk/)

8 This is very sad.

And I was going to report that today AoS HQ finally overtook the weather website as #3 on my browser "most visited website" listing.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (AFyB2)

9 The alarmists on social media are simultaneously shitting themselves and whacking' it

Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (YwEeS)

10 Surprise, surprise!

Posted by: Gomer Pyle at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (e5NfL)

11 Maybe a "dirty" bomb, or several, launched via missile so that the destruction of the missile spreads radiation all over Tel Aviv.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (Hw6WF)

12 It's on like Donkey Kong.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (v0R5T)

13 Good thing I stocked up on bottle caps.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:25 PM (A5bjg)

IYKYK

Posted by: Thumbs up! at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (TbWk/)

14 looks like a 81/82 mm mortar round. Not a nuke at all. Dumbass wouldn't be stroking in like it's his boifreins penis.

Posted by: KwaK! at June 17, 2025 07:27 PM (89Sog)

15 I do not understand the near-religious commitment of the Neopaulites to the idea that Iran just wants to be left alone and if we just leave them alone they'll leave us alone. They've been directing terrorist attacks against us for 46 years, and have repeatedly vowed to destroy "The Great Satan."

They also believe that the 12th Mahdi will only arise after Iran proves itself worthy be defeating the West.

Let's pray it doesn't come to that

- Ace

Do you think a regime change is gonna stop the crazy?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:27 PM (A5bjg)

16 Love this X account, whoever is running it.

The Mossad: Satirical and Awesome
@TheMossadIL
·
5h
UPDATE: We have just granted the United States permission to use Iranian airspace.
________________________________
And this is how they responded to Iran's big surprise announcement earlier:

The Mossad: Satirical and Awesome
@TheMossadIL
You know when they promise they'll go all night but only last 20 seconds?

You know what I'm talking about, ladies.

Posted by: beckster at June 17, 2025 07:27 PM (NLtte)

17 That's a really gay video for a country without homosexuals.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 07:28 PM (v2VfP)

18 Doctor Strange Mullah?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:28 PM (BNLtx)

19 If they accidentally nuked themselves, that would be hilarious.

And comedy is hard....

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 07:28 PM (jvJvP)

20 I think there was credible enough intelligence that the regime had one functional nuke and that is the reason for all the resources being deployed.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:28 PM (DLqye)

21 The idea of the effect of dirty bombs is greatly overestimated.

Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (YwEeS)

22 This business will get out of control, it will get out of control and we will be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Admiral Josh Painter at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (e5NfL)

23 When your enemy who has sworn to kill you for the last several decades threatens you by insinuating they're gonna nuke you, it'd be best to kill them. All of them.

And a bunch of their enablers and supporters pour encourager les autres...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (3Ope8)

24 Not nearly as important as Iran dropping a nuke, but to add to a topic from the last thread...

Besides his resignation as senator, there have also been calls to excommunicate Mike Lee from his religion because of one clever but crass tweet, "Night of the living Waltz." So it's gotten really heated.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (Eng1Z)

25 And if the mullahs released a WMD on our soil, I'm sure the Neopaulites will see it as justification for their view points.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (7xrfc)

26 The effect of the dirty bomb is the terror aspect not the radiological.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (BNLtx)

27 What are they gonna do, shave?

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (E0p3T)

28
eeyyeeiiihh. If they were aiming at America, where do you think they'd drop it?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (wbZPZ)

29 I just want Iran to shit or get off the pot when it comes to this whole 'Death To America!' thing. And can we do 'Death To Iran' back? Or is that a disproportionate response?

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (gKDq2)

30 Maybe a "dirty" bomb, or several, launched via missile so that the destruction of the missile spreads radiation all over Tel Aviv.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (Hw6WF)

With no warhead the dirty stuff will be stuck there in the bottom of the hole the nosecone makes. I don't think they are up to designing a spreading warhead today.

Note that the material for a dirty bomb are entirely different to those of a nuke. Uranium is pretty clean when purified.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (8avO+)

31 Maybe they'll put the Ayatollah's head on a pike? That could be it.

Being remembered for centuries doesn't mean you'll be successful. Heck, we still remember Carthage.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (0eaVi)

32 Muhammed al-Gollum

"My precious."

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (RJad3)

33 28 With what Air Force would or missile would they deliver it? They have nothing to reach us.

Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (YwEeS)

34 They're going to use duct tape to attach some enriched uranium to a missile.

Remember, their top remaining nuclear scientist is probably an intern who just got hired away from his job as a barista at Stargoats.

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (ju/6W)

35 21 The idea of the effect of dirty bombs is greatly overestimated.
Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (YwEeS)

The idea is overestimated or the effect is?

Cause you irradiate Times Square and aint no one gonna count the ball down for eons.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (A5bjg)

36 28
eeyyeeiiihh. If they were aiming at America, where do you think they'd drop it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (wbZPZ)

NYC

Because they aren't that original

Posted by: Zombie Red Leader at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (TTAGa)

37 eeyyeeiiihh. If they were aiming at America, where do you think they'd drop it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (wbZPZ)

Delaware

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (8avO+)

38 Willowed:

I think the play would be to test it where ever they can (i.e. in or under their own territory), claim to be part of the nuclear club and expect Israel and US to back down.

At that point, I ran ceases to exist. That's what you get when you threaten countries for 50 years. No one believes that you'll just hold onto it. They will expect you to use it. Which means you get eliminated.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (PfGa7)

39 Blonde Morticia

Newport News Shipbuilding. They would leave Congress and the DNC alone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (u82oZ)

40 "Maybe they have built a nuclear weapon but have never tested it and have no idea if it will work or not. And they're threatening to test it tonight on their enemies."

Could they have been shipped a "tested" nuke from the North Korea/China or Russian axis? That would be my new concern.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (gLikB)

41 They seem nice.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (7NkZG)

42 "The idea of the effect of dirty bombs is greatly overestimated.

Posted by: steevy"

I'd still rather not have radioactive dust being sprinkled all over my land from above.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (Hw6WF)

43 Well, shit or get off the pot.

Posted by: While We're Young at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (R/m4+)

44 Achmed: "5, 4, 3,...."

Mohammed: "IT'S POINTED THE WRONG WAY"

Achmed: "...2, 1, Allahu ack.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (v0R5T)

45 >> Is this real or just an empty threat? A last second bluff?

I think it's probably a bluff. Or maybe it's a half-bluff:

Spoiler alert. Given the current alert level it’s not a bluff. I think the actions of the last 24 hours were a giant clue.

They have somehow weaponized nuclear material. It may just be a dirty bomb, but speculation it is on a missile warhead.

We have a lot of assets in theater and active. Gonna be an interesting 24 hours.

But I bet Tucker is still saying it’s the neocons and warmongers giving us a head fake.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (2TbDp)

46 eeyyeeiiihh. If they were aiming at America, where do you think they'd drop it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (wbZPZ)

Colorado Springs? Oh please oh please oh please

Posted by: or Portland at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (TbWk/)

47 Dirty Bomb

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (NHj0Y)

48
Free nukes tomorrow.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (QnmlO)

49 Some Iranian lady gonna show her left cheekbone?

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (E0p3T)

50 eeyyeeiiihh. If they were aiming at America, where do you think they'd drop it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

DC. Great Satan's home.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (PfGa7)

51 The idea of the effect of dirty bombs is greatly overestimated.
Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (YwEeS)

its easily detectable and a bulldozer can cart it out to a pit or cave somewhere and sealed.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (8avO+)

52 Maybe a "dirty" bomb, or several, launched via missile so that the destruction of the missile spreads radiation all over Tel Aviv.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM

Yep. Even if we busted up the centrifuges they most likely had a stash of enriched stuff stored someplace else. It is not that hard to take the explosives out of a normal warhead and pack it full of enriched uranium. Even if the missile gets shot down that stuff will spread everywhere and whoever is under it is fvcked.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (e5NfL)

53 We should be thankful the Israelis blew up Iran's only 747.

NYC, the heart of the Great Satan and a lot of Jews, would be the logical target.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (BNLtx)

54 "And I was going to report that today AoS HQ finally overtook the weather website as #3 on my browser "most visited website" listing.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)"

Are you new here?

Posted by: fd at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (vFG9F)

55 They are hoping to have us panic and destroy the nuke site so they can attack us directly.
I vote it's a bluff.

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (+sNap)

56 I think it's time for Israel to employ the secret Jew rays.

https://tinyurl.com/kks45zmc

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (mADJX)

57 You can isolate and clean dirty bomb debris easily.

You can even paint over alpha emitters, and the paint stops them.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (u82oZ)

58 24 Not nearly as important as Iran dropping a nuke, but to add to a topic from the last thread...

Besides his resignation as senator, there have also been calls to excommunicate Mike Lee from his religion because of one clever but crass tweet, "Night of the living Waltz." So it's gotten really heated.

.......

And Kristi "aka Ice Barbie" is in the hospital. Dang the world is going to hell. Lots going on today

Posted by: Molly k. at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (j/yko)

59 I could live with that.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (P9gC0)

60 Clue: Terrorists don't warn you when terror is coming.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (E0p3T)

61 It's go time Donald. Bomb, bomb bomb Iran now.

Posted by: Kingsman at June 17, 2025 07:33 PM (ehY6c)

62 I hope they don't have a nuke even though I don't think a retaliatory nuke would be in Israel's interest.

If they know where Khamenei is they need to get a message to him similar to a horse head in his bed.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 07:33 PM (VofaG)

63 I'd still rather not have radioactive dust being sprinkled all over my land from above.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (Hw6WF)

you have a granite countertop? Lots of granite has U in it.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:33 PM (8avO+)

64 Shaka, when the walls fell.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 17, 2025 07:33 PM (wXs61)

65 Sorry, ace, but this Café/Pet Thread sucks!

At least the other thread had...

I had a friend at the US Embassy (then it was tel aviv) during Desert Storm. They were being pummeled by scuds, so had to go down to the bunker in the basement of the embassy, complete with gas masks. One guy brought his labrador, who had nervous gas. The folks could smell it through the gas masks, and one by one left the bunker. My friend said he'd rather take his chances with the scuds.
Posted by: moki at June 17, 2025 07:21 PM

Their carbon filters needed to be replaced. Not going away from a SBD dog fart during a Scud attack.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:27 PM

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:33 PM (2yoRf)

66 57 You can isolate and clean dirty bomb debris easily.

You can even paint over alpha emitters, and the paint stops them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (u82oZ)

What color paint?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:34 PM (A5bjg)

67 If they do something dumb, they will be committing suicide and millions in Iran may die unnecessarily...

These people pound their chests a lot, but we must still be vigilant...

Are the highways out of Tehran packed ????

Posted by: Allotta Fagina at June 17, 2025 07:34 PM (aKoaI)

68 "The idea of the effect of dirty bombs is greatly overestimated.

Posted by: steevy"

* Fukushima and Chernobyl have entered the chat.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 07:34 PM (PfGa7)

69 Tattoos are expensive as hell.

-
The human robot war is over. We lost.

Celebrity Tattoo Artist Bang Bang Introduces the Newest Technology in Art: A Robot That Can Do Your Ink (Exclusive)

https://shorturl.at/Asp2S

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 07:34 PM (L/fGl)

70 It's 3 AM in Tehran. Not too much night left.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:34 PM (P9gC0)

71 On the plus side, the Iranians are announcing their 'surprise' beforehand. Bringing all of our intelligence-gathering capabilities to bear, we might be able to pinpoint the Shahab-3 site or whatever their vehicle is and stop it.

Wishful thinking, I know, but you take what you can get in these dark, tumultuous times.

Posted by: troyriser at June 17, 2025 07:34 PM (DPeYO)

72 >> The idea of the effect of dirty bombs is greatly overestimated.

Depends on what’s on that warhead. Weapons grade or almost weapons grade plutonium is serious business. Dispersement is limited, and it depends on the delivery vehicle as to concentration, but you don’t want to be near it.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 07:35 PM (2TbDp)

73 Dirty bombs are a waste. Only Cesium is harsh because it will replace calcium in bones. Lots of people have had huge doses of radioactive stuff and had it chelated and survived.

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 07:35 PM (+sNap)

74 AlaBAMA

Plutonium Pink, of course. Not Uranium yellow.

Be handy to put a nuke hazard warning sign on the paint, to help down the road.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:35 PM (u82oZ)

75 66 57 You can isolate and clean dirty bomb debris easily.

You can even paint over alpha emitters, and the paint stops them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (u82oZ)

What color paint?
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Glow in the dark paint

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 07:35 PM (PfGa7)

76
"The future begins tomorrow"
-- Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems motto

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 07:35 PM (0sNs1)

77 It is not that hard to take the explosives out of a normal warhead and pack it full of enriched uranium. Even if the missile gets shot down that stuff will spread everywhere and whoever is under it is fvcked.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (e5NfL)

Enriched U doesn't make a dirty bomb. Depleted U is so weak ass they make tank shells out of it.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:35 PM (8avO+)

78 And I was going to report that today AoS HQ finally overtook the weather website as #3 on my browser "most visited website" listing.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (AFyB2)

You get more accurate information here, though.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 07:35 PM (S/Y4j)

79 eeyyeeiiihh. If they were aiming at America, where do you think they'd drop it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (wbZPZ)

If they were smart, it would be a red state. No way the blue staters would rally round the flag like the whole country did after 9/11.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 07:36 PM (ITkJX)

80 Re the JD Vance comment.

There is no legitimate reason to have "civilian" enrichment capability. This is like saying you want to own a gun in order to shoot blanks.

100% of the effort in developing the technology, capability, and equipment is required for very low return on investment.
80% of the effort is necessary to enrich to civilian grade. Going to WMD grade is now a small step, and easy to do without the world noticing.

The only reason to want enrichment capability is to make bombs. May on the (jew hating) pro-Iran side will not admit that and they are lying to us.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 07:36 PM (AFyB2)

81 Wouldn't surprise me if they touched one off right overhead.
Kinda like a suicide umbrella.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 17, 2025 07:36 PM (7NkZG)

82 If you think I ripped off the Libyans, you should see what I did to the Iranians.

Posted by: Emmett "Doc" Brown at June 17, 2025 07:36 PM (RJad3)

83 Enriched U doesn't make a dirty bomb. Depleted U is so weak ass they make tank shells out of it.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:35 PM (8avO+)

And 30mm rounds for the GAU-8

Posted by: WARTHOG! WAAARTHOOOG! at June 17, 2025 07:36 PM (TbWk/)

84 Sorry, ace, but this Café/Pet Thread sucks!

Well, in the coming years we can have doggie threads where they're wagging two tails at once

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 07:36 PM (gKWVE)

85 *grabs fire extinguisher*
*pulls pin*
*squeezes and sprays side to side*

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 07:36 PM (4wq+Z)

86 All these Demoncrats always say we are a Democracy????

We are a Democratic Republic and pure Democracy is Chaotic....

Posted by: Allotta Fagina at June 17, 2025 07:37 PM (aKoaI)

87 Growing suspicion of link between tatoo ink and lymphoma.

Posted by: Kingsman at June 17, 2025 07:37 PM (ehY6c)

88 If the Iranians hit Israel with a dirty bomb good bye Tehran

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 07:37 PM (akw+7)

89 Cause you irradiate Times Square and aint no one gonna count the ball down for eons.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Just hose it down the storm drain.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 17, 2025 07:37 PM (/lPRQ)

90 I thought Strontium-90 was the one which replaces calcium

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 07:37 PM (gKWVE)

91 My guess - dirty bomb.

Take your regular ballistic missiles/drones and add a few ounces of uranium to them.

Or sneak it into a port on a container ship. Or across the previously porous southern border.

No worries the leftist press will amplify whatever you do till it is the single biggest mistake Trump made ever. Literally any bomb with an ounce of uranium will be the biggest setback America has ever known blah blah.

And naturally, this attack will justify the B2 bombing of the nuclear sites with penetrators by the U.S. Smoking holes.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (gDhA9)

92 {{{nurse ratched}}}

My, that was refreshing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (u82oZ)

93 "You can isolate and clean dirty bomb debris easily. "

Tens of thousands of tiny pieces spread over square miles? Dunno how "easy" that'll be. Plus there's the psychological effect. All the civvies would be thinking "Did they really get it all cleaned up?".

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (Hw6WF)

94 And I was going to report that today AoS HQ finally overtook the weather website as #3 on my browser "most visited website" listing.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (AFyB2)

You get more accurate information here, though.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 07:35 PM (S/Y4j)

Just ask in the comments what the weather is gonna be

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (8avO+)

95 Free pecans?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (P9gC0)

96 Could the Mullah's be in what we call the ....

"Extinction Burst" ?

Posted by: Allotta Fagina at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (aKoaI)

97 Murse Ratched

Next month you will have a new bunch of lunatics infesting Seattle.

Science fiction's WorldCon is coming to town.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (BNLtx)

98 Cause you irradiate Times Square and aint no one gonna count the ball down for eons.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (A5bjg)

Dirty bomb in Times Square... awful.
After one good rain... not great.
After a second good rain... whatever.

People might stay away for eons but it'd only be moderately dangerous for weeks. At most.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (ExV1e)

99 *grabs fire extinguisher*
*pulls pin*
*squeezes and sprays side to side*
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 07:36 PM

You're gonna hafta do better than that.

Posted by: The Woodpecker at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (0sNs1)

100 Are you new here?
Posted by: fd

It's a joke, son. I say it's a joke.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (AFyB2)

101 "You can isolate and clean dirty bomb debris easily. "

Tens of thousands of tiny pieces spread over square miles? Dunno how "easy" that'll be. Plus there's the psychological effect. All the civvies would be thinking "Did they really get it all cleaned up?".
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (Hw6WF)

Geiger Counters, dude.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:39 PM (8avO+)

102 85 *grabs fire extinguisher*
*pulls pin*
*squeezes and sprays side to side*
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 07:36 PM (4wq+Z)

Aiiiiieeeeeeee!

Posted by: Evil River Otters at June 17, 2025 07:39 PM (PiwSw)

103 Siraj Hashmi @SirajAHashmi 20h
Every airplane on Earth:

Emirates Flight 129: LEEEEEEEROYYYYY JENKINNNNNNNNNSSSS

https://tinyurl.com/ywzmxw4w
funny

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:39 PM (2yoRf)

104 Clearly the plan is for everyone in the Iranian government to fart simultaneously in Israel's direction, then light all the farts at once.

Everyone would sure remember that for centuries.

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2025 07:39 PM (ju/6W)

105 I'll keep my umbrella at the ready.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:40 PM (P9gC0)

106 *grabs fire extinguisher*
*pulls pin*
*squeezes and sprays side to side*
Posted by: nurse ratched

PASS

Pull
Aim
Spray
Sweep

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 07:40 PM (PfGa7)

107 If the Iranians hit Israel with a dirty bomb good bye Tehran
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 07:37 PM (akw+7)

Why? If the Ayatollah's whereabouts are known, grab him alive, then have him torn limb from limb in public and throw the remains to pigs.

Posted by: I mean, come on.... at June 17, 2025 07:40 PM (0eaVi)

108 Iran Threatens a "Surprise the World Will Remember for Centuries" Tonight

The Mullahs announce tomorrow is......

"PRIDE DAY IN IRAN" !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Allotta Fagina at June 17, 2025 07:40 PM (aKoaI)

109 I looked it up. Cesium-137 is bad because it acts more like sodium. It's an electrolyte. But cesium salts will get leached out of the body like salt does, so doesn't stick like strontium sticks.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 07:40 PM (gKWVE)

110 I don't doubt they would use a nuke if they have one. They are crazy and could care less about what happens to their own people.

Posted by: Triple at June 17, 2025 07:40 PM (URsrR)

111 The surprise will be the end of Fordow and several other installations including the one housing the Ayatollah. Several mullahs and Red Guard officers are also on the list.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 07:41 PM (Ffc+8)

112 They have a nuke, and intend to drop it from a donkey cart.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 07:41 PM (gDhA9)

113 Atomic Accidents by Jim Mahaffey is pretty interesting

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 07:41 PM (FqNtp)

114 Growing suspicion of link between tattoo ink and STDs.
Posted by: Kingsman at June 17, 2025 07:37 PM (ehY6c)

FIFY

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 07:41 PM (hdoQS)

115 You only get to bluff it once, or use it once for that matter.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 07:41 PM (jc0TO)

116 No one wants to be #2. If Iran becomes #2 no one can point at the U.S. as the only big bad that actually used nukes.

Iran loves to talk a lot of shit so it seems and they have been called on it by Israel.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 07:41 PM (vm8sq)

117 I'd still rather not have radioactive dust being sprinkled all over my land from above.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 17, 2025 07:31 PM (Hw6WF)

you have a granite countertop? Lots of granite has U in it.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:33 PM (8avO+)

Do you eat bananas?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:41 PM (ExV1e)

118 Nurse: *Ventilates woodpecker with concealed carry piece*
Woodpecker: 'Never....saw....that....coming..

Posted by: Nazdar at June 17, 2025 07:41 PM (NcvvS)

119 I thought Strontium-90 was the one which replaces calcium
Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 07:37 PM (gKWVE)

Probably Cesium is chemically similar to Sodium and Potassium but more so.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:41 PM (8avO+)

120
By the way, stroking a bomb lol? Clearly these people are fans of prime western schlock. They just needed a white cat purring nearby.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 07:42 PM (wbZPZ)

121 MOPP gear is designed to give the trooper a chance at survival. Go all Level 4 and your ok for the wind gust of gas for a bit, but most serious stuff is gonna get some folks, heat exhaustion some folks and claustrophobia and stupidity some folks. But it's better than a wet t-shirt so what ya gonna do anyways. Relax and enjoy!

Posted by: CBRN Threats Are Your Friend at June 17, 2025 07:42 PM (R/m4+)

122 Who knows if they're that desperate & stupid?

It would truly be an historic mistake because Tehran would cease to exist shortly thereafter.

Every military base and nuclear site, gone right along with it.

We wouldn't nuke their oil fields, though.
No need to waste that.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:42 PM (6ydKt)

123 Second possibility is in the Gulf. They may try to mine the Gulf and start launching against ships and other sovereign oil facilities.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 07:42 PM (2TbDp)

124 90 I thought Strontium-90 was the one which replaces calcium
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Extra-Extra-Extra-Extra-Strength Tums.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:42 PM (2yoRf)

125 You can isolate and clean dirty bomb debris easily.

You can even paint over alpha emitters, and the paint stops them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:32 PM (u82oZ)

What color paint?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:34 PM (A5bjg)

Alphas can be stopped by the dead skin on your hand. They're only damaging if you get them internal.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:42 PM (ExV1e)

126 Brazil Nuts are radioactive.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:43 PM (P9gC0)

127 33 28 With what Air Force would or missile would they deliver it? They have nothing to reach us.
Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (YwEeS)
------------------

They don't need to reach us with a missile. Whatever they have was most likely already brought across the border, perhaps with permission from Otto Penn and his minions. They've just been waiting for what they see as the right time to do whatever it is.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 17, 2025 07:43 PM (QdGJh)

128 You only get to bluff it once, or use it once for that matter.
Posted by: toby928

Yeah, there is no testing at this point. If you test one, you won't get a second chance.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 07:43 PM (PfGa7)

129 Blonde Morticia

See my #18

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:43 PM (BNLtx)

130 Well, in the coming years we can have doggie threads where they're wagging two tails at once
Posted by: gKWVE
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Tummies-rub Tuesdays!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:43 PM (2yoRf)

131 120
By the way, stroking a bomb lol? Clearly these people are fans of prime western schlock. They just needed a white cat purring nearby.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 07:42 PM (wbZPZ)

It really is quite cartoonish.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:43 PM (6ydKt)

132 That nuke video is right out of a professional wrestlers heel campaign sizzle reel. I kept expecting them to zoom in on the Iron Sheik as he nods his head.

Posted by: Max Power at June 17, 2025 07:43 PM (q177U)

133 Strontium.

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 07:43 PM (FqNtp)

134 Let's not discount the health benefits of radiation.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 17, 2025 07:44 PM (MMp6W)

135 “I do not understand the near-religious commitment of the Neopaulites to the idea that Iran just wants to be left alone and if we just leave them alone they'll leave us alone.”

This is the naive world isolationists live in. They seem to think than the Brits gave us our independence out of the kindness of their hearts. They say this about every country and seem to think we just need to unilaterally disarm and everything will be solved.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 07:44 PM (vm8sq)

136 They have a nuke, and intend to drop it from a donkey cart.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 07:41 PM (gDhA9)

New Iranian launcher

https://is.gd/hqpWaH

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 07:44 PM (S/Y4j)

137 Brazil Nuts are radioactive.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:43 PM (P9gC0)

The carbon in your body is radioactive.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:44 PM (8avO+)

138 Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 17, 2025 07:44 PM (7NkZG)

139 >>If they were aiming at America, where do you think they'd drop it?

More likely Tel Aviv.

Posted by: davidt at June 17, 2025 07:44 PM (i0F8b)

140 87 Growing suspicion of link between tattoo ink and lymphoma.
--------
Do they [still?] use octopus ink?

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:44 PM (2yoRf)

141 ""The future begins tomorrow"
-- Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems motto
Posted by: Duncanthrax "

"The future begins next Tuesday" didn't sound as snappy.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (fV+MH)

142 My favorite part of being in MOPP 4 during an FTX was that I could sit against a tree and take a nap until the all-clear.

I prolly missed the point, but, well, maybe I didn't.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (0aYVJ)

143 Is DHS Secretary Noem allergic to dogs?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (u82oZ)

144 Doesn't have to be a nuclear surprise.

- They could activate cells in USA to bomb stuff
- They could take out a carrier or embassy.
- They could put a bomb in a European Capital.
- They could take out KSA oil facilities.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (AFyB2)

145 Clearly, it's the attack with no mercy... because no one expects the attack with no mercy...

Posted by: Gen Custer to Muleskinner at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (mP0Kj)

146 Radioactive Vitamin D turns on your immune system.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (P9gC0)

147 If you want scary invaders from Mars

Everyone is at MOPP4 and looking at each other

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (BNLtx)

148 Alphas can be stopped by the dead skin on your hand. They're only damaging if you get them internal.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:42 PM (ExV1e)

I marked the box the lab alpha source came in with "do not swallow" but probably the stomach lining would block it as well.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (8avO+)

149 I'm sensing a Reverse Dr. Manhattan Scenario.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (XV/Pl)

150 144 Doesn't have to be a nuclear surprise.

- They could activate cells in USA to bomb stuff
- They could take out a carrier or embassy.
- They could put a bomb in a European Capital.
- They could take out KSA oil facilities.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (AFyB2)

Covid 25

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (mP0Kj)

151 *** commitment of the Neopaulites to the idea that Iran just wants to be left alone
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Neopaulite fools. If they want to be left alone why do they keep attacking us? Why do they keep saying that they want to annihilate us?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (Ffc+8)

152 The Future Started Without You Because You Kept Hitting the Snooze Button

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (0aYVJ)

153 Maybe Israel should nuke them first. Just in case...

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (nQcpu)

154 I looked it up. Cesium-137 is bad because it acts more like sodium. It's an electrolyte. But cesium salts will get leached out of the body like salt does, so doesn't stick like strontium sticks.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 07:40 PM

When we lived downwind in connecticut from the millstone Nuke plant they would mail us a package of some special iodine pills every other year in case of a emergency. We just tossed them in a drawer and never pitched them out. We had 11 or 12 packages when we sold the house and moved to Kentucky. They had instructions printed on them that said do not use unless directed by authorities.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (e5NfL)

155 144 Doesn't have to be a nuclear surprise.

- They could activate cells in USA to bomb stuff
- They could take out a carrier or embassy.
- They could put a bomb in a European Capital.
- They could take out KSA oil facilities.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (AFyB2)

-- --

They better hop to it then, before there's nobody left to give the order.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (6ydKt)

156 You can isolate and clean dirty bomb debris easily.

Slap hot iron to it.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 07:47 PM (jc0TO)

157 143 Is DHS Secretary Noem allergic to dogs?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (u82oZ)

Allergic to stupid, been around the Press too much.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 07:47 PM (mP0Kj)

158 That's nothing. I once slept through a Brigade Time on Target.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:47 PM (P9gC0)

159 144 Doesn't have to be a nuclear surprise.

- They could activate cells in USA to bomb stuff
- They could take out a carrier or embassy.
- They could put a bomb in a European Capital.
- They could take out KSA oil facilities.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (AFyB2

Probably put a tree nut in Noem's lasagna.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:47 PM (A5bjg)

160
"My guess is that this is an 11th hour bluff from a regime that is falling and desperately needs the US to retrain Israel to save it."

Retrain or restrain?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 07:47 PM (63Dwl)

161 Having meatloaf, mashed potato's and..... corn! for dinner, don't ask about the corn.

Just as good a meal as any for end of the world scenarios.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 07:47 PM (XV/Pl)

162 Salty!!! Howdy handsome!

Anna Puma, I actually love all the weirdos. Comic-Con is awesome people watching. The weirdos are mostly harmless and they spend a lot of money and don’t trash the place like the antifa goons do.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 07:48 PM (eCnv0)

163 146 Radioactive Vitamin D turns on your immune system.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (P9gC0)

-- --

I've had pretty good results since I started taking it, along with Magnesium, during COVID.

A lot less allergy & sinus problems since.
*knocks on wood*

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:48 PM (6ydKt)

164 Bluff.

If they had a device, they would have used it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 07:48 PM (DX6IT)

165 What's the point of eating corn?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:49 PM (A5bjg)

166 If Iran had a serviceable nuke, they would have tested it in the desert to announce to the world they were now a nuclear power.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 07:49 PM (u73oe)

167 They don't need to reach us with a missile. Whatever they have was most likely already brought across the border, perhaps with permission from Otto Penn and his minions. They've just been waiting for what they see as the right time to do whatever it is.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 17, 2025 07:43 PM (QdGJh)

Ever read Storming Intrepid?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 07:49 PM (vm8sq)

168 For 45 years the world knew that ayatollahs were nuts. And they let them have the bomb. Obama gave them money to do it.

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 07:49 PM (nQcpu)

169 Sharks with lasers on their heads.

Posted by: davidt at June 17, 2025 07:49 PM (i0F8b)

170 Nurse Ratched, WorldCon is where they vote on the Hugo Awards.

It is now skinsuit worn by Commies and freaks.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:49 PM (BNLtx)

171 I'm all in. I know a jackal when I see one.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (P9gC0)

172 Don't know what the ink is but it migrates into the lymph system
and estimated 30-60% increase in lymphoma. Yikes! I call the tats the devil's lace.

Posted by: Kingsman at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (ehY6c)

173 What's the point of eating corn?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:49 PM (A5bjg)

It's like the aggregate in concrete.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (0aYVJ)

174 Looks like someone stroking a radioactive vibrator.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (CNl8/)

175 Doesn't have to be a nuclear surprise.

They could announce where all of Obama's pallets of cash went.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (BU22l)

176 Isn't it already night there?

Posted by: Toad-0 at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (cct0t)

177 Brazil Nuts are radioactive.

What about the sane ones?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (/y8xj)

178 I don’t see anything Vance has said as being problematic at all. He’s been very loyal to Trump.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (47gcY)

179 When we lived downwind in connecticut from the millstone Nuke plant they would mail us a package of some special iodine pills every other year in case of a emergency. We just tossed them in a drawer and never pitched them out. We had 11 or 12 packages when we sold the house and moved to Kentucky. They had instructions printed on them that said do not use unless directed by authorities.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (e5NfL)

Our team went to the Berkeley labs to have high energy nuclei shot into the cosmic ray detector. The night I was off duty they goaded the staff to really blast the cave and it kinda got out of hand. Everything in the target are was made a smidge radioactive by the nuclei breaking bits off the material. the control area farther off had less but they took the tabs off the people there to see how bad they were.

College days, eh?

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (8avO+)

180 If Khameni Goat Fcukers Inc looses their inner nuke then ….Soon on the market: Iranian glass ornaments…..made from (not by) real Iranians

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (FCPbW)

181 What's the point of eating corn?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:49 PM (A5bjg)

Corn for me means Bath Time! Scrub A Dub Dub!

Posted by: Your Colon at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (R/m4+)

182 Activating sleeper cells in the US would seal the fate of the Democrats. Persian Ferret has probably told them no

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 07:50 PM (FqNtp)

183 That nuke video is right out of a professional wrestlers heel campaign sizzle reel. I kept expecting them to zoom in on the Iron Sheik as he nods his head.
Posted by: Max Power

Tehran Tina Goes Nucular. How many rolls of duct tape does it take to keep a war head attached to the end of ballistic missile?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 07:51 PM (NXz8h)

184 134 Let's not discount the health benefits of radiation.
------
It kills all the disease samples we exposed it to.

We should be eating the stuff!

Posted by: zombie madame curie at June 17, 2025 07:51 PM (2yoRf)

185 87 Growing suspicion of link between tatoo ink and lymphoma.
Posted by: Kingsman
----
See tattoo inks and heavy metals.

Also, CBS News, What's in tattoo ink? Expert says potentially concerning additives weren't listed on the packaging
March 23, 2024

The majority of people probably have no problems but there are always outliers.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 07:51 PM (NFX2v)

186 I think they might try launch something from a submarine. Be a shame if it hits Jordan, Lebanon, their friends in gza...

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 07:51 PM (nQcpu)

187 Anna Puma

Been a very long time since I paid a nanosecond of attention to WorldCon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:51 PM (u82oZ)

188 I wish the Iranian regime would have phrased it "the mother of all surprises".

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at June 17, 2025 07:51 PM (5yDGQ)

189 This is going to be a scary night.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 17, 2025 07:51 PM (xTIDn)

190 Neopaulite fools. If they want to be left alone why do they keep attacking us? Why do they keep saying that they want to annihilate us?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (Ffc+

Blowback. It’s All Our Fault. The Founders were ALL isolationists and we needed to be exactly like them.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 07:51 PM (vm8sq)

191 zombie madame curie

Did not work out so well for her. She was hurt by radiation.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (u82oZ)

192 Activating sleeper cells in the US would seal the fate of the Democrats.

Military occupation of Dearborn.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (xTIDn)

193 The US had assets in Diego Garcia months ago. Splain to me if there is not a major threat why all of these resources are being moved to the Med. I don't think it's because of the missile threat.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (DLqye)

194 Isn't it already night there?

Posted by: Toad-0

3 am. Sunrise in two.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (NXz8h)

195 150 144 Doesn't have to be a nuclear surprise.

- They could activate cells in USA to bomb stuff
- They could take out a carrier or embassy.
- They could put a bomb in a European Capital.
- They could take out KSA oil facilities.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (AFyB2)

Covid 25
Posted by: Romeo13
---------------------------

Between Diego Garcia, the Boomers and the four Carrier battle groups that are in the M.E. how many nuclear warheads could be delivered to Iran in one evening?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (Ffc+8)

196 I'm gonna put my money on nope, they can't possibly orchestrate that.

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (CQE5S)

197 You have murdered our women, and our children, and bombed our cities from afar, like cowards, and you dare to call "us" terrorists?Now, we have the ability to strike back at our enemies. Unless "you" "America" pull all military forces out of the Persian gulf area, immediately, and forever, Crimson Jihad will rain fire on one major U.S. city each week, until our demands are met. First, we will detonate one nuclear weapon on this uninhabited island as a demonstration of our power. But, if these demands are not met, Crimson Jihad will rain fire on one major U.S. city each week.

Posted by: Salim Abu Aziz at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (jc0TO)

198 Shit. End of the wolrd and I gotta work.
Such is my luck.

Posted by: Reforger at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (LgDgc)

199 Nuclear reactors need slightly enriched uranium. 3-5% U-235, the rest U-238. Some reactors can work with as little as 0.7% U-235. Some use up to 20% U-235. But 3-5% is the standard.

Iran has been enriching uranium up to 60% U-235. There is literally no reason to enrich uranium up to that level except it's a much smaller, easier, and quicker step to enrich 60% to 90%+ (what is needed for a bomb that will go boom) than it is to enrich 3-5% or 20% to 90%+. Iran should have been found in non-compliance with the NPT and dealt with the moment it admitted it was enriching to 60% in April 2021. Thanks Joe Biden.

Posted by: deepelemblues at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (z9n5F)

200 So the ‘hyper-isolationists’ spent last week whining that Iran isn’t a threat, they have no nuclear weapons, and anyone who wants to destroy whatever capability they have is a warmongering stupid morlock cunt. Then the Iranians tease a video of a nuke. Should we not take this seriously? I think it’s a fake bluff as the radioactive symbol is almost comical. But they’re giving us reasons to deep penetrate them back to the Stone Age.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (pNjYF)

201 Does anyone remember Special Bulletin from 1983?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (wXs61)

202 200

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (CQE5S)

203 *** commitment of the Neopaulites to the idea that Iran just wants to be left alone
--------

Neopaulite fools. If they want to be left alone why do they keep attacking us? Why do they keep saying that they want to annihilate us?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 07:46 PM (Ffc+

You aren't supposed to logically think about this, just accept their moral superiority based on what school they flunked out of.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (8avO+)

204 - They could activate cells in USA to bomb stuff -- maybe, but then they either don't claim responsibility and look like posers or do claim responsibility and we start bombing the shit out of them.

- They could take out a carrier or embassy -- maybe, embassy would be easier than a carrier.

- They could put a bomb in a European Capital -- maybe, but why would we care?

- They could take out KSA oil facilities -- seems unlikely. POL point, maybe most of the stuff is gonna be too dispersed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (ExV1e)

205 Crimson Jihad
Posted by: Salim Abu Aziz at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (jc0TO)

Harvard ? Or monthly feminist attacks ?

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (uqyLy)

206 Iran is really bad at naming things.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (P9gC0)

207 Iran launches a dirty bomb and wipes out Gaza. Film at..... Whenever they find someone alive who filmed that shit!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 17, 2025 07:54 PM (2J/Lj)

208 172 Don't know what the ink is but it migrates into the lymph system
and estimated 30-60% increase in lymphoma. Yikes! I call the tats the devil's lace.
-------------------------------

I wonder what's in modern ink compared to what was used in the past. Im guessing a lot of 10 syllable chemical names you can't pronounce.

Posted by: Triple at June 17, 2025 07:54 PM (URsrR)

209 Hold on to your turbans!

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 07:54 PM (v0R5T)

210 Meanwhile, IDF issued evacuation warning to Teheran .

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 07:54 PM (nQcpu)

211 It is now skinsuit worn by Commies and freaks.
Posted by: Anna Puma

That’s a shame. They will be indistinguishable from the “normal” commies and freaks we already have.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 07:54 PM (eCnv0)

212 @165

>>What's the point of eating corn?

Add's crunch and is a delivery mechanism for butter.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 07:54 PM (XV/Pl)

213 Braenyard

Our surface ships and CVs have no nukes in them.

!6 missiles / boomer or something like that is enough. Plus the land based misses near Minot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (u82oZ)

214 They're down to a skeleton crew in government and science.

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (CQE5S)

215 Area 18 you win tonights lotto.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (P9gC0)

216 Whatever is going to happen will not be the end of the world.

Because how can the world remember something for centuries if the world ended in 2025?

Posted by: Schroedinger's Cat Wears the Emperor's New Clothes at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (bWR5k)

217 What's the point of eating corn?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:49 PM (A5bjg)

Polka-dotted poo is more fun than regular poo?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (ExV1e)

218 zombie madame curie

Did not work out so well for her. She was hurt by radiation.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (u82oZ)

They had young women painting radium on watch dials in that era to make them glow.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (8avO+)

219 Eat more radium

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (FqNtp)

220
Dirty bomb in Times Square... awful.
After one good rain... not great.
After a second good rain... whatever.

People might stay away for eons but it'd only be moderately dangerous for weeks. At most.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (ExV1e)

Ground zero in Hiroshima was turned into a Memorial Park only 5 years after the bombing. The long term effects of nukes are overrated I think, unless you are in the immediate blast/fallout area. In that case, yeah you're probably fucked.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (y9nCu)

221 They might go after Trump tonight.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (v0R5T)

222 zombie madame curie

Did not work out so well for her. She was hurt by radiation.
***
She was buried on a lead lined coffin. Her notes are still radioactive.

Posted by: Megthered at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (GOJbT)

223
It really is quite cartoonish.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Why not? Movie makers make tons of cartoonish stuff.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (63Dwl)

224 I bet they downloaded that nuke video off ewetub.

Posted by: Bibilus at June 17, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)

225 Luap Nor cult is on foreign policy incredibly naive.

If they "pop a nuke" I am betting it will be a dirty bomb.

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 07:56 PM (XFYYr)

226 They nuked Detroit?

How would you notice?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:56 PM (BNLtx)

227
Time for us to face & accept it: Democrats can no longer win a primary unless they go Full Retard Woke.

This is net-positive for us because 1) it makes them easier to defeat in less-blue elections, and 2) it further reshapes and destroys the Democrat party.

The only negative is desperate Democrat office-holders can inflict damage and create misery.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (WMnee)

228 >>> Nurse Ratched, WorldCon is where they vote on the Hugo Awards. It is now skinsuit worn by Commies and freaks.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:49 PM (BNLtx)

I actually thought about going, observing all the woke infighting they are having up close, "Gorrillas in the Mist" style. But decided not to shell out hundreds of dollars to a group that, if they had an inkling of my politics, would stone me.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (Eng1Z)

229
A dirty bomb would not use enriched uranium, it would use radioisotopes from nuclear reactor waste, dispersed with an explosive charge.

Uranium, even enriched, is not all that radioactive.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (biznJ)

230 Between Diego Garcia, the Boomers and the four Carrier battle groups that are in the M.E. how many nuclear warheads could be delivered to Iran in one evening?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM

Other than the boomers we don't keep Nukes onboard ships any longer. They would have to pull in to a port that has Nukes. Back in the day the only place that they were stored in Westpac for the Navy was Sasebo Japan.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (e5NfL)

231 Tel Aviv is probably their only target within reach.

Posted by: davidt at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (i0F8b)

232 Does anyone remember Special Bulletin from 1983?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (wXs61)

I do.
Because Charleston Harbor is where the nuke went off.

I also remember "Countdown To Looking Glass".

Then there was "The Day After".
"Testament".

I'm probably missing a few.
They tried to scare the shit out of us in the 80s when Regan got into office.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (6ydKt)

233 121 Posted by: CBRN Threats Are Your Friend at June 17, 2025 07:42 PM (R/m4+)

Heat exhaustion is for amateurs be a pro and go for heat stroke.

//Doc Ruiz at Fullerton

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (XFYYr)

234 Between Diego Garcia, the Boomers and the four Carrier battle groups that are in the M.E. how many nuclear warheads could be delivered to Iran in one evening?

We're trying, but our supply lines are a little messed up right now.

Posted by: The CIA at June 17, 2025 07:58 PM (QHX6R)

235 Ill Tempered Curr

Hiroshima was an air burst. It did not also throw up radioactive dirt like a ground bust would. So Hiroshima was a clean nuclear weapon

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:58 PM (BNLtx)

236 They nuked Detroit?

How would you notice?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 07:56 PM (BNLtx)

Property values would go 'up'.

Posted by: Bibilus at June 17, 2025 07:58 PM (zZu0s)

237 "My guess is that this is an 11th hour bluff from a regime that is falling and desperately needs the US to retrain Israel to save it."
***
They're cornered and this bluff is all they have left. And it's not like they think in a strategic sequence or care about the consequences of their lies or posturing.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 17, 2025 07:58 PM (x2CMu)

238 Hold on to your turbans!
Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 07:54 PM (v0R5T)

Oh, turban, now! Do you see any fucking turban here? Do I talk like a turban guy? Do I say, "Hey, Jay, you want a slurpee? You want a slurpee?" Fuck you, okay? I was born in Brooklyn. Brooklyn, okay? My accent is a fucking Brooklyn accent, okay? Okay?

Posted by: Mooj, SmartTech Sales Associate at June 17, 2025 07:58 PM (R/m4+)

239 Anyone see a report about Noem being taken to the hospital? Don't know if that's true or not.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (ExV1e)

240 They do want WWIII after all

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (Te34j)

241 B61-12 Bunker Busters stat.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (P9gC0)

242 Stroking the bomb=Iranian wet dream

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (mADJX)

243 I wonder what's in modern ink compared to what was used in the past. Im guessing a lot of 10 syllable chemical names you can't pronounce.
Posted by: Triple at June 17, 2025 07:54 PM (URsrR)

Years ago, tattooing was just some Navy guy with an anchor inked onto his forearm. Nowadays, the amount of skin covered in ink on many people would seem to exponentially escalate any health risks from the chemicals in the permanent ink.

Posted by: Schroedinger's Cat Wears the Emperor's New Clothes at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (bWR5k)

244 Alas, Babylon.

Posted by: davidt at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (i0F8b)

245 229 Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (biznJ)

Quite you can use medical nuclear waste to great effect to increase the lethality over a timeline with a traditional bomb....shrapnel acts as a force multiplier for such a weapon exposing internal physiology to the radiological waste increasing cancer risk for survivors.

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (XFYYr)

246 Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (6ydKt)

Don't forget 'Threads' from the UK which is supposed to be pretty horrifying.

Posted by: Bibilus at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (zZu0s)

247 Show of hands. Who would rather Kamala was handling this?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (L/fGl)

248 A dirty bomb would not use enriched uranium, it would use radioisotopes from nuclear reactor waste, dispersed with an explosive charge.

Uranium, even enriched, is not all that radioactive.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (biznJ)

Both enriched and depleted U remove the intermediate decay elements many of which are far more radioactive that U itself as it moves its way down to lead.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:00 PM (8avO+)

249 239 Anyone see a report about Noem being taken to the hospital? Don't know if that's true or not.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (ExV1e)

Yes... Supposedly an allergic reaction

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 08:00 PM (VE6XX)

250 Alas, Babylon.
Posted by: davidt at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM

I'll bring the steaks.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 08:00 PM (jc0TO)

251 What's the delivery system? Federal Express?

Posted by: Orson at June 17, 2025 08:00 PM (dIske)

252 I'm probably missing a few.
They tried to scare the shit out of us in the 80s when Regan got into office.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (6ydKt)

LOL... missed all those... 81 - 85 I was on a Ship, and did 3 deployments and a 1 year Drydock Yard Period...

85 - 89 I was partying my ass off in Hawaii... did not see hardly any movies.

80's are just pretty much a blur, except for some good music (was in the Bars a LOT).

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 08:00 PM (mP0Kj)

253 Iran Threatens a "Surprise the World Will Remember for Centuries" Tonight

Oh dear Lord, they're bringing back New Coke

Posted by: Sua Sponte at June 17, 2025 08:00 PM (GTw+O)

254
Does anyone remember Special Bulletin from 1983?
Posted by: Dr. Varno

Yeah, I watched that.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 08:00 PM (63Dwl)

255 If its UPS, then the Iranian nuke will be stolen in California and placed on eBay.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (BNLtx)

256 The guy in Alas Babyon prepared for the apocalypse by buying several cases of Whiskey.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (P9gC0)

257 Time for us to face & accept it: Democrats can no longer win a primary unless they go Full Retard Woke.
***
The side effect (or intended effect) is to tear the country apart with violence, and with the requited violence they hope it will incite.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (x2CMu)

258 Between Diego Garcia, the Boomers and the four Carrier battle groups that are in the M.E. how many nuclear warheads could be delivered to Iran in one evening?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (Ffc+

Pakistan spouted off earlier. If'n, for some reason, they needed to go heavy on Iran, the Pakis might catch some also.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (ExV1e)

259 I've seen electricity costs in Iran are ¢0.5 per kilowatt hour.

My most-recent electrical bill price is US ¢8/Kwh for mid-peak that's alot less than I remember American commenters here saying theirs is.

So, no, it's not for electricity let alone due to anti-CAGW views.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (2yoRf)

260 Oh, turban, now! Do you see any fucking turban here? Do I talk like a turban guy? Do I say, "Hey, Jay, you want a slurpee? You want a slurpee?" Fuck you, okay? I was born in Brooklyn. Brooklyn, okay? My accent is a fucking Brooklyn accent, okay? Okay?
Posted by: Mooj, SmartTech Sales Associate at June 17, 2025 07:58 PM (R/m4+)

It's like I am in NYC.

Also /off sock.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (zZu0s)

261 165 What's the point of eating corn?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025

Well, since you asked, corn is a whole grain that does offer some decent nutrients. It’s a prebiotic- an excellent source of fiber, and is low glycemic, so it keeps you full. It has antioxidants, and CoQ10. It also has magnesium and potassium, some vitamins. So if it’s not swimming in butter, it’s good!

Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (pZEOD)

262 Alas, Babylon. was about a full nuclear exchange between the Soviet Union and the Us of A. Started in Syria.

Central Florida came out of it OK.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (u82oZ)

263 Lest we forget, many of these regimes were given the recipes for biologicals by the USSR.

I'm more worried about what the left hand was doing while everyone watched the right.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (A5bjg)

264 You have murdered our women, and our children, and bombed our cities from afar, like cowards, and you dare to call "us" terrorists?Now, we have the ability to strike back at our enemies. Unless "you" "America" pull all military forces out of the Persian gulf area, immediately, and forever, Crimson Jihad will rain fire on one major U.S. city each week, until our demands are met. First, we will detonate one nuclear weapon on this uninhabited island as a demonstration of our power. But, if these demands are not met, Crimson Jihad will rain fire on one major U.S. city each week.

Posted by: Salim Abu Aziz at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (jc0TO)

Battery Aziz.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (ExV1e)

265 I do.
Because Charleston Harbor is where the nuke went off.

They tried to scare the shit out of us in the 80s when Regan got into office.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (6ydKt)

Look, I'm pissed about Ft Sumter but that's going too far.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (8avO+)

266 " ... 232 Does anyone remember Special Bulletin from 1983?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (wXs61)

I do.
Because Charleston Harbor is where the nuke went off."

ohmygosh, I was trying to remember that one the other day!
thx!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 08:02 PM (/Ghsb)

267 246 Posted by: Bibilus at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (zZu0s)

They all simultaneously over and understate the risk of nuclear war...Threads is stylistically the best of the lot I suppose.... wanna watch?

https://youtu.be/bhcrgQihRcs?si=4juQckmiqaEz3-e9

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:02 PM (XFYYr)

268 Okay, who has the key?

Posted by: Salim Abu Aziz at June 17, 2025 08:02 PM (jc0TO)

269 Trump should send him a video back, of home stroking a MOAB...being loaded on a plane.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 08:02 PM (gDhA9)

270 Is this real or just an empty threat? A last second bluff?
=
If it's real, I expect that there won't be an Iran in 24 hours.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 08:02 PM (Dnobf)

271 After watching that cringe bomb-stroking video, I have to wonder: where no goats available to satisfy these degenerates’ sexual perversions?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 08:02 PM (pNjYF)

272 239 Anyone see a report about Noem being taken to the hospital? Don't know if that's true or not.
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Allergic reaction; she's fine now.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 08:02 PM (2yoRf)

273 Rumor has it the shocking event is Muqtada al-Sadr brushing his teeth for the first time.

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (SRiFu)

274 262 Alas, Babylon. was about a full nuclear exchange between the Soviet Union and the Us of A. Started in Syria.

Central Florida came out of it OK.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (u82oZ)

I read that one, Earth Abides, and Lucifer's Hammer, back to back. After that, I needed a break.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (PiwSw)

275 >>>Westpac for the Navy was Sasebo Japan.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)
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16/boomer is good but do they still keep them in Japan?
The George Washington left Japan about four days ago.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (Ffc+8)

276 Quite you can use medical nuclear waste to great effect to increase the lethality over a timeline with a traditional bomb....shrapnel acts as a force multiplier for such a weapon exposing internal physiology to the radiological waste increasing cancer risk for survivors.
Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (XFYYr)

Which is why Jimmy Carter signing a Law that we could not reprocess nuclear waste was such a monumentally stupid act. We now have a shitload of Nuc Waste, can't get rid of it, and the Courts decided we can't use the one good storage place we made.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (mP0Kj)

277 If they Nuke Israel, Israel will nuke them right back. And hit the target.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (gDhA9)

278 " If its UPS, then the Iranian nuke will be stolen in California and placed on eBay.
Posted by: Anna Puma"

lol

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (fV+MH)

279 So if it’s not swimming in butter, it’s good!

Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (pZEOD)

You had me right up to that point.

Posted by: davidt at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (i0F8b)

280 Posted by: Salim Abu Aziz at June 17, 2025 07:52 PM (jc0TO)

Battery Aziz.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (ExV1e)

They call him the Sand Spider.

Why?

Probably because it sounds scary.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (zZu0s)

281 246 Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (6ydKt)

Don't forget 'Threads' from the UK which is supposed to be pretty horrifying.

Posted by: Bibilus at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM (zZu0s)

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I don't thunk I've ever seen that one.
I'll look around and see if I can watch it.

There are more if you go back to the 60s.

"Panic in Year Zero!", "Fail Safe", "Dr. Strangelove", "On The Beach".

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (6ydKt)

282 251 Posted by: Orson at June 17, 2025 08:00 PM (dIske)

Container ship

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (XFYYr)

283 Or sneak it into a port on a container ship......

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 07:38 PM (gDhA9)

That's my thought, probably on the east coast. Suicide ship.

Posted by: javems at June 17, 2025 08:04 PM (8I4hW)

284 kiloton grenade?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 08:05 PM (/Ghsb)

285 Who eats corn without butter?

Heathens.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:05 PM (A5bjg)

286 Sneak a nice large radiological weapon in a container that the paperwork says is granite kitchen tops.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:05 PM (BNLtx)

287 277 If they Nuke Israel, Israel will nuke them right back. And hit the target.
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The problem is that they know it and don't care...

Posted by: Triple at June 17, 2025 08:05 PM (URsrR)

288 Which is why Jimmy Carter signing a Law that we could not reprocess nuclear waste was such a monumentally stupid act. We now have a shitload of Nuc Waste, can't get rid of it, and the Courts decided we can't use the one good storage place we made.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (mP0Kj)

Heard a plan that you could take a bit of waste, put it in the center of a ball of stuff golfball sized and fire it into a hard ceramic. Blocks all the radioactivity and the rest could be stored whereever.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:05 PM (8avO+)

289 Hey, Helen still loves you- she just wants to bang this guy for awi-

STOP CHEERING ME UP!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 08:05 PM (zZu0s)

290 They nuked Detroit?

https://youtu.be/HGZImOl-6bY

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 08:05 PM (nYrjk)

291 {{{I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper }}}

Earth Abides! Yikes. Lucifer's Hammer was a cheery, optimistic story next to that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 08:05 PM (u82oZ)

292 The long term effects of nukes are overrated I think, unless you are in the immediate blast/fallout area. In that case, yeah you're probably fucked.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 07:55 PM (y9nCu)

Listen up people! I have just received word from the old man in the cave. Lots of radium 17 and borium in the rain tonight, so cover all rain barrels until it clears. Also, all the canned Wolf chili we found is loaded with Stronium 19 and must be avoided. That is all.

Posted by: Goldsmith at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (R/m4+)

293 Lucifer's Hammer was ...memorable.

Weird. Memorable.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (fV+MH)

294 281) Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:03 PM (6ydKt)

https://youtu.be/VR1U6MNoVXk?si=81KhGQpPnbHH_EJ0

Panic in Year Zero

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (XFYYr)

295 OK. It’s 9.5 hours ahead in Iran. They are running out of nighttime…

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (vm8sq)

296 The idea of the effect of dirty bombs is greatly overestimated.
Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (YwEeS)

The bad thing about radioactive debris is that it radiates, and by so doing, can injure you. The good thing about radioactive debris is that it radiates, and by so doing, gives away its location. You could program robots to search for it, and sweep it up. Biological agents would be a lot harder to detect.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (MRsv9)

297 This business with Noem is suspicious. Remember Her purse was stollen? had her meds in it.

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (nQcpu)

298 Who eats corn without butter?

Heathens.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:05 PM (A5bjg)

Genetic engineer the plant so there's butter inside the kernel.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (8avO+)

299 What's the delivery system? Federal Express?
Posted by: Orson

Memphis. It all goes through Memphis.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (dR6yv)

300 Look, I'm pissed about Ft Sumter but that's going too far.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:01 PM (8avO+)

It's a tourist attraction now.
You have to take a boat ride in the harbor to get there.
Tours, museum, and a gift shop.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (6ydKt)

301 259 I've seen electricity costs in Iran are ¢0.5 per kilowatt hour.

Posted by: andycanuck

----
I read that China costs about ¢1 /kWh. That's wholesale , and the benefits of coal and low regulations.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 08:07 PM (AFyB2)

302 Oldcat

We need to recycle the radionuclides. For Gaia.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 08:07 PM (u82oZ)

303 Iran doesn’t even grasp that they’re making all of us more determined than ever to make sure they never get nukes.

Almost everything Iran has been promising all these years has been a big bluff. I’m betting this is, too.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 08:07 PM (47gcY)

304 286 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:05 PM (BNLtx)

Mark it as a medicinal pick-me-up from Ancient Persia and Starbucks will deliver it for you

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:07 PM (XFYYr)

305 If the Mullahs want to go out in a blaze of glory, don't discount their other options...like warheads filled with chemicals, or biologics.

But yeah, I think the video is a (desperate) bluff.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2025 08:07 PM (XjTSo)

306 Some network news asshole said the Nimitz was bringing the bunker busters. They don't have the right plane. Why would they do that?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 08:07 PM (P9gC0)

307 Syria, Iraq, and Jordan "Hey whoa, wait a minute, guys, guys...."

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 08:08 PM (gDhA9)

308 OK. It’s 9.5 hours ahead in Iran. They are running out of nighttime…

They didn't actually say their nighttime.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2025 08:08 PM (/y8xj)

309 https://youtu.be/VR1U6MNoVXk?si=81KhGQpPnbHH_EJ0

Panic in Year Zero

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (XFYYr)

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I'll have to watch that one.
It's the one out of that list I haven't seen.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:08 PM (6ydKt)

310 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 11h
BREAKING: Indonesia's Mount Lewotobi Laki Laki volcano erupts, unleashes colossal ash tower; alert raised to the highest level

https://tinyurl.com/yarazeuw
29 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (2yoRf)

311 Well, it was nice knowin’ y’all.

Dibs on everyone’s stuff.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (77rzZ)

312 Is this real or just an empty threat? A last second bluff?

If it's real, why say anything? For the clicks?

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (yzPgp)

313 That dude’s hand in the cringe ‘bomb sex’ video is way too manicured and photogenic. Hand model. Who produced this video, gay Victoria’s Secret?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (pNjYF)

314 The long term effects of nukes are overrated I think, unless you are in the immediate blast/fallout area. In that case, yeah you're probably fucked.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

It greatly depends on delivery method. Air blast creates fallout but mostly dissipates. Ground blast creates lots of radioactive contamination.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (AFyB2)

315 296 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (MRsv9)

area denial weapons and the psychological impact are the true lethality....cancer will go up the mundane explosive will kill but America will be forced to shit or get off the pot...and I think we will shit.

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (XFYYr)

316 Listen up people! I have just received word from the old man in the cave. Lots of radium 17 and borium in the rain tonight, so cover all rain barrels until it clears. Also, all the canned Wolf chili we found is loaded with Stronium 19 and must be avoided. That is all.
Posted by: Goldsmith at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (R/m4+)

Radium 17. 88 protons, minus 71 neutrons.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (8avO+)

317 I think Tehran is 7.5 hours ahead.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (P9gC0)

318 Now that would be a latte with a punch.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:10 PM (BNLtx)

319 Genetic engineer the plant so there's butter inside the kernel.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (8avO

I like where your head is at, young man!

Can we....maybe....well, can you put the cheese inside the cracker?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:10 PM (A5bjg)

320 I don't want anyone to die on either side. Not Iranians, and not Israelis.

Others may disagree, but I believe this was a war that never had to happen. The fact that it did, is a crime against humanity.

I'm not going to play any games, blaming one side or the other, trying to relive history. I just know humans are not meant to treat each other this way.

The whole thing makes me sad. Except the part my country is playing, that part makes me angry. The warmongers will get theirs in the next life.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 08:10 PM (Ax924)

321 Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (XFYYr)

Fun fact... ?si=81KhGQpPnbHH_EJ0 is a tracking cookie that youtube uses to associate your account with that of anyone clicking the link. Feds really like tracking cookies. Don't be a fed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:10 PM (ExV1e)

322 I take it back.
I do remember Panic in Year Zero now that I'm watching him with the fishing rod.

Saw it on TCM years ago.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:10 PM (6ydKt)

323
311 Well, it was nice knowin’ y’all.

Dibs on everyone’s stuff.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (77rzZ)

You can have my bucket collection.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (A5bjg)

324 That is the actual size of the nuke they are stroking. They intend to sue a slingshot to deliver it...story developing....

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (gDhA9)

325 As far as I know, Iran does not have a nuke delivery system.

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (nQcpu)

326 Some network news asshole said the Nimitz was bringing the bunker busters. They don't have the right plane. Why would they do that?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 08:07 PM (P9gC0)

well it can fit in the admiral's cabin in a pinch.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (8avO+)

327 310 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 11h
BREAKING: Indonesia's Mount Lewotobi Laki Laki volcano erupts, unleashes colossal ash tower; alert raised to the highest level

https://tinyurl.com/yarazeuw
29 seconds
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Dang... and with all the EVs and windmills we were doing so good with greenhouse gasses.

Posted by: Triple at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (URsrR)

328 Y'know - that weapon with the nuclear hazard mark on it seemed awfully small for an actual nuke.

Now I am not an expert, but if they are hoping to use uranium rather than plutonium as a fuel, that implies a "gun type" nuclear weapon with two lumps of U-235 at either end of a tube.

It would have to be about the size of "Little Boy," a gun type atomic bomb which was dropped on Hiroshima.

Looks more like an artillery shell to me.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (2myyY)

329 Have a great night, everyone.

Take comfort from someone nearby you can stand.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (u82oZ)

330 I think Tehran is 7.5 hours ahead.
Posted by: Boss Moss

And two hundred years behind.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (cYBz/)

331 309 Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:08 PM (6ydKt)

It's well done, it starts out almost as a send-up of "My Three Sons" style comedy and then shows the societal breakdown...it is funny to our eyes but when it was new it was shocking....essentially it is similar to Alas Babylon without the societal recovery arc.

I am a Milland fan and he was good in this.

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (XFYYr)

332

Islam and Shia Islam in particular wants armageddon in order to bring the 12th Imam out from his magic wishing well in Qom to usher in planet Islam for all eternity.

If that well were bombed, it would mess up their prophecy. Big time

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (x0n13)

333 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 11h
BREAKING: Indonesia's Mount Lewotobi Laki Laki volcano erupts, unleashes colossal ash tower; alert raised to the highest level

https://tinyurl.com/yarazeuw
29 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (2yoRf)

That's surprising.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (ExV1e)

334 306 - Buffs in Diego Garcia, GBU-57s on Nimitz, ...
i'm sure one of the best&brightest can figure it out (lol) (*redacted*)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (/Ghsb)

335 Fun fact... ?si=81KhGQpPnbHH_EJ0 is a tracking cookie that youtube uses to associate your account with that of anyone clicking the link. Feds really like tracking cookies. Don't be a fed.

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Yup.
On YT links you can leave off the ? and everything that follows it and the link will work fine.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (6ydKt)

336 >>> Shit. End of the wolrd and I gotta work.
Such is my luck. Posted by: Reforger at June 17, 2025 07:53 PM (LgDgc)

Or, find a beach and someone to hold, a la the end of Rogue One (the only good Star Wars film from the modern post-Lucas fanfic girlboss films.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4MxAkiom8

I'd better rewatch the Fallout show as research for the coming zombie nuclear apocalypse. And finally see Buckaroo Banzai. And learn how to can and skin a squirrel.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (Eng1Z)

337 Looks more like an artillery shell to me.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (2myyY)

We do have nuclear artillery shells too, apparently.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (A5bjg)

338 Well, game 6 is starting. Go Florida!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (3Ope8)

339 BurtTC, do you feel the same way about antifa?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (DLqye)

340 I'm probably missing a few.
They tried to scare the shit out of us in the 80s when Regan got into office.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:57 PM (6ydKt)

I will say it again, the Boomers got told the world was fucked but they would be OK. GenX got told the world was doomed and they were fucked. The millennials got told they were fucked.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (D7oie)

341 285 Who eats corn without butter?

Heathens.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June

Some butter is fine! Just not more butter than corn.

Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (pZEOD)

342 Given Iran's bluffs in the past - I'd wager that its a bluff... one that is appealing to the peaceniks for us to pull back on Israel's leash.

Unfortunately for Iran, we've had it about up to here with their BS for the past 4 decades. Even if they aren't bluffing - this will be resolved.

A certain Team America quote is coming to mind here.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (WYStd)

343 This evil, murderous, venemous rogue clique of criminals in beards and robes must be removed immediately.

Bottom line.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (RIvkX)

344 Well, it was nice knowin’ y’all.

Dibs on everyone’s stuff.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:09 PM (77rzZ)

I'm just sad for the animals who have to share this planet with such a shitty species.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (Ax924)

345 3:30 A.M. in Tehran. Just the right time.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (Ffc+8)

346 As far as I know, Iran does not have a nuke delivery system.
Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (nQcpu)

DoorDash.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (ExV1e)

347 Perhaps what the moolahs are threatening is not a nuclear attack, but a biological attack, perhaps by their allies the Chinese, Russians or any of our adversaries.

Posted by: Lexus Nexus at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (p2Opc)

348 We got nuke threats from the Ayatollah!!!

We got volcanoes!!!

Our pets heads are falling off!!!

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (fV+MH)

349 Can we....maybe....well, can you put the cheese inside the cracker?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:10 PM (A5bjg)

If you made a cracker bush of some kind, secreting a substance between the 2 crackers in the pod would be doable.

Then the double stuff oreo vine is in sight.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (8avO+)

350 Dang... and with all the EVs and windmills we were doing so good with greenhouse gasses.
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We'll see if we have another "year without a summer" in our lifetimes. [Not that this one is that big... so far.]

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (2yoRf)

351 Indonesia's Mount Lebowski Laki Laki volcano??

Dude. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (cYBz/)

352 Now that Israel has destroyed the last flyable F-14 Tomcats, back to finishing this model F-14.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (BNLtx)

353 321 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:10 PM (ExV1e)

Yes I am a Fed you caught me, no wait I am the unwitting pawn of them....no wait I am contractor for the armed part of them....no wait....

if we are to the point that linking to youtube is prima facie a cause for investigation we are all fucked....

let he amongst us who has never had to sit across from 3 counter-intelligence agents cast the first stone

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (XFYYr)

354 I'd better rewatch the Fallout show as research for the coming zombie nuclear apocalypse. And finally see Buckaroo Banzai. And learn how to can and skin a squirrel.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (Eng1Z)

Buckaroo Banzai is a "must watch."

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (PiwSw)

355 341 285 Who eats corn without butter?

Heathens.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June

Some butter is fine! Just not more butter than corn.
Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (pZEOD)

If a little butter is good, a lot of butter is better.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (A5bjg)

356 Reactors do not require enriched uranium. Only bombs do.

Otters too.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (mnoTq)

357 BurtTC, do you feel the same way about antifa?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (DLqye)

As in, do I want them dead?

No. I don't want them dead. People who commit crimes should be subject to the law though.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (Ax924)

358 Perhaps what the moolahs are threatening is not a nuclear attack, but a biological attack, perhaps by their allies the Chinese, Russians or any of our adversaries.
Posted by: Lexus Nexus at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (p2Opc)

kind of dumb to be patting a supposed A bomb warhead then.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (8avO+)

359 Now that Israel has destroyed the last flyable F-14 Tomcats, back to finishing this model F-14.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (BNLtx)
———

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

— Tom Cruise

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 08:15 PM (pNjYF)

360 Just don't eat the corn longways.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 08:15 PM (P9gC0)

361 Anyone got the final scene from "Dr. Strangelove" handy?

Posted by: General Buck Turgidson at June 17, 2025 08:15 PM (R/m4+)

362 336, learn Morse code, too

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 08:15 PM (/Ghsb)

363 Some network news asshole said the Nimitz was bringing the bunker busters. They don't have the right plane. Why would they do that?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 08:07 PM

Those moab bombs are 30 feet long. I seriously doubt they would be able to fit in the magazine on an aircraft carrier. I know they would not fit on the magazine elevator.

And I can 100% guarantee you the Navy would not just let those things be strapped down in the hanger bay, no matter how safe they are.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (e5NfL)

364 This evil, murderous, venomous rogue clique of criminals in beards and robes must be removed immediately.
---------
But enough about the US courts.

What do you think about the Iranian mullahs??

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (2yoRf)

365 If a little butter is good, a lot of butter is better.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Tell me about it!

Posted by: Zombie Marlon Brando at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (cYBz/)

366 I'd better rewatch the Fallout show as research for the coming zombie nuclear apocalypse. And finally see Buckaroo Banzai. And learn how to can and skin a squirrel.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (Eng1Z)

No matter where you go, there you are.

BB.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (8avO+)

367
Buckaroo Banzai is a "must watch."
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM

Mmmm..Ellen Barkin

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (A5bjg)

368 359 Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 08:15 PM (pNjYF)

The tomcat was too cool to live, a lot like the Phantom which a sane nation would have updated to F-4X configuration....anyone have a spare sane nation handy?

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (XFYYr)

369

BREAKING: KRISTI NOEM RUSHED TO HOSPITAl after some sort of allergic reaction.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (x0n13)

370 It's well done, it starts out almost as a send-up of "My Three Sons" style comedy and then shows the societal breakdown...it is funny to our eyes but when it was new it was shocking....essentially it is similar to Alas Babylon without the societal recovery arc.

I am a Milland fan and he was good in this.

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (XFYYr)

--

It's definitely tame compared to the 80s films.

I'm still enjoying it.

I'll always remember Miland from "Dial M For Murder".
An excellent Hitchcock flick.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (6ydKt)

371 Perhaps what the moolahs are threatening is not a nuclear attack, but a biological attack, perhaps by their allies the Chinese, Russians or any of our adversaries.
Posted by: Lexus Nexus at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (p2Opc)

Contrary to the constant drumbeat from the hair on fire brigade, Russia is not our adversary and they would not be involved in a biological attack against us.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:17 PM (ExV1e)

372 And I can 100% guarantee you the Navy would not just let those things be strapped down in the hanger bay, no matter how safe they are.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (e5NfL)

Empty the captains liquor cabinet, fits a dozen.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:17 PM (8avO+)

373 BREAKING: KRISTI NOEM RUSHED TO HOSPITAl after some sort of allergic reaction.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM

Again?

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 08:17 PM (jc0TO)

374 BREAKING: KRISTI NOEM RUSHED TO HOSPITAl after some sort of allergic reaction.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

She's allergic to the media.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:17 PM (fxlwR)

375 361 Posted by: General Buck Turgidson at June 17, 2025 08:15 PM (R/m4+)

I would post the link but then you would need a QRF....

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:17 PM (XFYYr)

376 >>> I'm just sad for the animals who have to share this planet with such a shitty species.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (Ax924)

Most animals would eat you without blinking, if they could. Nature is pretty cruel and terrible.

But yes, we don't deserve the good ones.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 08:17 PM (Eng1Z)

377 Mmmm..Ellen Barkin

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (A5bjg)

She's a looney-tunes, AWFL Karen on X these days.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:18 PM (6ydKt)

378 The Iranians don't have advanced penguin technology, do they?

Posted by: davidt at June 17, 2025 08:18 PM (i0F8b)

379 The tomcat was too cool to live, a lot like the Phantom which a sane nation would have updated to F-4X configuration....anyone have a spare sane nation handy?
Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (XFYYr)

Having it belch black smoke in Nam was an interesting decision

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:18 PM (8avO+)

380 Grumman's last Cat had so much Prescence, it dripped sexy death.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:18 PM (BNLtx)

381 If Iran dumps the mullahs, that is one less obstacle to US Russian partnership.

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 08:18 PM (FqNtp)

382 370 Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:16 PM (6ydKt)

Yeah, the thing is the 60s films dealt with the reality of a relatively inaccurate general exchange....with the lack or precision they would use high yield devices aimed at saturation coverage of urban areas....it would not be pretty.

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (XFYYr)

383 Looks more like an artillery shell to me.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at June 17, 2025 08:11 PM (2myyY)

---

More like a mortar. That'd need to be .0005kt to be survivable.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (wzAuc)

384 Show of hands. Who would rather Kamala was handling this?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 07:59 PM

* raises hand *

Posted by: Kamala "Kokonut" Harris at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (0sNs1)

385 The Lost Weekend.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (fV+MH)

386 Maybe Iran is plotting a series of stern letters.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (MMp6W)

387
1h
#BREAKING: Iranian ballistic missile hits Palestinian community near the city of Hebron in the West Bank

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (Ffc+8)

388

Remember after 9/11 that Puerto Rican dude from Chicago who was nabbed as a potential dirty bomber who was planning on setting off a radiological bomb.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (x0n13)

389 Most animals would eat you without blinking, if they could. Nature is pretty cruel and terrible.

But yes, we don't deserve the good ones.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 08:17 PM (Eng1Z)

If my cats survive this and I don't, I hope I'm delicious.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (Ax924)

390 I'd better rewatch the Fallout show as research for the coming zombie nuclear apocalypse. And finally see Buckaroo Banzai.

And learn how to can and skin a squirrel.
Posted by: LizLem

You won't shoot enough to can.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (fxlwR)

391 Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (XFYYr)

My point wasn't that you were a fed. My point was how to identify a tracking cookie, the fact that it makes you a better blog citizen to remove tracking cookies, and that removing tracking cookies makes the link shorter so you get fewer people bitching about url length.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (ExV1e)

392 The Iranians don't have advanced penguin technology, do they?
Posted by: davidt at June 17, 2025 08:18 PM (i0F8b)

Birds of Persia does not claim any penguins native to Iran.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (8avO+)

393 She really loves that hospital!

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (fV+MH)

394 What was the space movie with Molly Ringwald?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (A5bjg)

395 Iran is going to the UN tonight.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (P9gC0)

396 Someone on X says that the surprise is the Ayatollah releasing his own bathwater soap, like Sydney Sweeney did.

https://tinyurl.com/3ypsj695

Posted by: Splunge at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (ju/6W)

397 Jet engines of that era were all like that. Look at the B-52D.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (BNLtx)

398 I'd better rewatch the Fallout show as research for the coming zombie nuclear apocalypse. And finally see Buckaroo Banzai.

And learn how to can and skin a squirrel.
Posted by: LizLem

You won't shoot enough to can.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (fxlwR)

doing it in that order is also some feat.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (8avO+)

399 386 Maybe Iran is plotting a series of stern letters.
Posted by: Oglebay at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (MMp6W)

I think we've located Brian Stetler...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (x0n13)

400 Maybe Iran is plotting a series of stern letters.
Posted by: Oglebay at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (MMp6W)

I knew we never should have introduced them to Trey Gowdy.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (Ax924)

401 After the mullah regime is no more I'm sure my HOA would be happy to manage the place...

Posted by: Triple at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (URsrR)

402 "Buckaroo Banzai is a "must watch."

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 08:14 PM (PiwSw) "

if only for the scene where there is some sort of alert and every single person in Banzai's posse whips out a 1911

lol

if only

how did I get switched into this *@&#^$% timeline?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (/Ghsb)

403 It will hardly be a surprise when it turns out that the 12th Imam is a penguin.

Posted by: Penguin Facts at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (vFG9F)

404 New Cafe the World Will Remember for Centuries

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (jc0TO)

405 Islam and Shia Islam in particular wants armageddon in order to bring the 12th Imam out from his magic wishing well in Qom to usher in planet Islam for all eternity.

If that well were bombed, it would mess up their prophecy. Big time

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (x0n13)

The well can't be much bigger than a womp rat. The IDF just needs to give a kibbutz farm boy a $150M aircraft with minimal training and the well's history.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (y9nCu)

406 The Jolly Roger's Tomcat is still the best livery.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (A5bjg)

407 AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 2h
BREAKING: Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem transported to hospital by ambulance in D.C. area. She is conscious and has spoken with her security detail. - CNN

AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 2h
BREAKING: Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem suffered an allergic reaction today and was taken to the hospital out of an abundance of caution. Officials say she is alert and recovering, NewsNation reported citing a DHS official.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (2yoRf)

408 Grumman's last Cat had so much Prescence, it dripped sexy death.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:18 PM

The F7F? Heck, yeah!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (0sNs1)

409 >>> Anyone got the final scene from "Dr. Strangelove" handy? Posted by: General Buck Turgidson at June 17, 2025 08:15 PM (R/m4+)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP7N_ZTDfyE

And here's the atomic bomb opening scene from Fallout (with the priceless Walton Goggins):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJjIf7nwx6U

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (Eng1Z)

410 Iranian ballistic missile hits Palestinian community near the city of Hebron in the West Bank
Posted by: Braenyard

Millions of dollars of improvements feared.

Posted by: Zombie Marlon Brando at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (cYBz/)

411 Remember after 9/11 that Puerto Rican dude from Chicago who was nabbed as a potential dirty bomber who was planning on setting off a radiological bomb.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (x0n13)

whats a radiological bomb.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (8avO+)

412 I'm unsure that Iran would have any catastrophic asset out of a mountainside that the Israelis don't already know about.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at June 17, 2025 08:22 PM (naiw2)

413 >>> 62 I hope they don't have a nuke even though I don't think a retaliatory nuke would be in Israel's interest.

If they know where Khamenei is they need to get a message to him similar to a horse head in his bed.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 07:33 PM (VofaG)

Have any of you racists considered that perhaps Khamenei would like to announce new pronouns???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 08:22 PM (ULPxl)

414 After the mullah regime is no more I'm sure my HOA would be happy to manage the place...
Posted by: Triple at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (URsrR)

Haven't the people of Iran suffered enough?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 08:22 PM (Ax924)

415 We already knew they're a bunch of jagoffs.

Posted by: DaveA at June 17, 2025 08:22 PM (FhXTo)

416 379 Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:18 PM (8avO+)

The PW-1120 for the "Super Phantom" would have been a game changer....one of our flaws is an actual paucity of airframes for mission.... any area where we do not have aircraft that has a Mig-17 has a problem for us.

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:22 PM (XFYYr)

417 Some butter is fine! Just not more butter than corn.
Posted by: Piper at June 17, 2025 08:13 PM (pZEOD)

If a little butter is good, a lot of butter is better.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

‐‐‐-----------'

Watch the movie Wargames, where in one scene the father slathers butter all over a piece of bread and then uses the bread to butter their piece of corn.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 17, 2025 08:22 PM (qZGxj)

418 Sefton

I suggested that Israel pirate Iran's broadcast channels to show a RuPaul 12th Iman climb out of the well and shake the booty.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:22 PM (BNLtx)

419 NOOD

CAFE

willowed again!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 08:23 PM (ULPxl)

420 I SAID NEW CAFE!

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 08:23 PM (jc0TO)

421

Noooooop1ppdddnood

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 08:23 PM (dNwZ7)

422 Tomcat was cool but the F15 and F18 were peak aircraft design.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:23 PM (A5bjg)

423 What was the space movie with Molly Ringwald?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:20 PM (A5bjg)

Something about a Forbidden Zone

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 17, 2025 08:23 PM (CNl8/)

424 and was taken to the hospital out of an abundance of caution.. . . .
Posted by: andycanuck

When some press flack uses this phrase don't they really mean an 'overabundance' of caution?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (cYBz/)

425 The Iranian regime just wants to survive another day.

I hope.

I have no idea if an attack on the US homeland is possible, but if I were Iran's leadership and wanted a deadman's switch, I'd be targeting America, not Israel.

Posted by: mea culpa at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (TOGmQ)

426 A plethora of cautions.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (jc0TO)

427 391 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (ExV1e)

I am in severe sleep deficit having just come in out of the field, I apologize and will refrain from posting goggle tube links until I am either retrained or more clear headed... I had a weird rotation.

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:25 PM (XFYYr)

428 The F-18 is a flying piece of junk pushed on the military by MDD.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:26 PM (BNLtx)

429 >>> And learn how to can and skin a squirrel.
Posted by: LizLem
You won't shoot enough to can.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (fxlwR)

Hah. Fine, I'll can fruit and veg, smoke the squirrel meat into jerky? Idea for next food thread.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 08:27 PM (Eng1Z)

430 428 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:26 PM (BNLtx)

The hornet is an amazing piece of kit...less good a fighter than the cat and a less an intruder and more of a jaywalker...

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:27 PM (XFYYr)

431 I have no idea if an attack on the US homeland is possible, but if I were Iran's leadership and wanted a deadman's switch, I'd be targeting America, not Israel.
Posted by: mea culpa at June 17, 2025 08:24 PM (TOGmQ)

how? If I have a pistol should I aim and Teheran to shoot it down?

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 08:28 PM (8avO+)

432 *Bulg calls Solomia Maievska*

“Hey, Solomia, humanity will end in a few minutes, Can you do me a solid?

Or, better put, can I do you a solid? I promise your disappointment won’t last long,”

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:28 PM (77rzZ)

433 if it’s not swimming in butter, it’s good!
Posted by: Piper at June

If it's not swimming in butter why eat it?

Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 08:28 PM (n4GiU)

434 Remember after 9/11 that Puerto Rican dude from Chicago who was nabbed as a potential dirty bomber who was planning on setting off a radiological bomb.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (x0n13)

Jose Padilla

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 17, 2025 08:28 PM (/HDaX)

435 As far as I know, Iran does not have a nuke delivery system.
Posted by: runner

Just to be safe, I'm not answering the door tonight.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 08:30 PM (BIMpQ)

436 Just to be safe, I'm not answering the door tonight.
Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 08:30 PM

Pizza.

Posted by: Iran at June 17, 2025 08:31 PM (jc0TO)

437 If that well were bombed, it would mess up their prophecy. Big time

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:12 PM (x0n13)

Yep. Drop a 15-megaton job right down that well.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 08:32 PM (on8Xq)

438 Others may disagree, but I believe this was a war that never had to happen. The fact that it did, is a crime against humanity.
-
Yes, the folks in Hamas, who Iran armed, who slaughtered 1400 Israelis committed a crime against humanity.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 08:33 PM (Dnobf)

439 The Hornet is an amazing money sink.

New capabilities, you have to redesign the whole airplane.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:33 PM (BNLtx)

440 Forgot about Jose Padilla. He's due to be released next year.

Posted by: mea culpa at June 17, 2025 08:35 PM (TOGmQ)

441 385 The Lost Weekend.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (fV+MH)

Another Miland great.
He was in some great films.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 08:35 PM (6ydKt)

442 439 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:33 PM (BNLtx)

It's the perfect pentagon weapon

Posted by: Sven at June 17, 2025 08:35 PM (XFYYr)

443 Just to be safe, I'm not answering the door tonight.
Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 08:30 PM (BIMpQ)

Candygram!

Posted by: 12th Imam at June 17, 2025 08:40 PM (V362x)

444 Maybe Khameni is dropping his onlyfans?

Joking aside, this really underlines how craven and cowardly the calls by the G7 for 'de-escalation' are.

The West is run by stupid, supine, weak, traitors and the USA deserves better allies and Israel is well rid of them.

They have no credibility, no morality and collectively they have repeatedly failed their peoples for more than 30 years.

Posted by: stv at June 17, 2025 08:40 PM (+opPw)

445 It's the perfect pentagon weapon

It is that

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:43 PM (BNLtx)

446 Isn't there a thorium reactor design that is less wasteful, with fewer byproducts that could be turned into bomb material?

I wonder if that was offered, and declined as not putting out enough juice. Or maybe not putting out enough Jews. I suppose their accent might make it hard to tell.

Posted by: Another Anon at June 17, 2025 08:49 PM (4h45B)

447 That 12th Mahdi will issue forth from a hole in the ground so I say it's Satan. So the shiiiiiits worship the devil. Tee Hee, we know how those cults end.

Posted by: Ciampino - Do not pass portcullis at June 17, 2025 08:52 PM (sPQoU)

448
The whole thing makes me sad. Except the part my country is playing, that part makes me angry. The warmongers will get theirs in the next life.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 08:10 PM (Ax924)

What makes me sad is people like you who think this country and your freedoms simply exist for the asking, never needing to be earned in any way. And when you are confronted with the cold hard truth, you call anyone who believes we should be a little more than whiny in the name of defense a “warmonger”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 08:56 PM (vm8sq)

449 293 Lucifer's Hammer was ...memorable.

Weird. Memorable.
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 08:06 PM (fV+MH)
A story of how people react to disaster, like the Survivor series by James Wesley, Rawles.

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 09:02 PM (LHPAg)

450 63

you have a granite countertop? Lots of granite has U in it.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:33 PM (8avO+)
----
I though the radioactivity of granite was due to potassium-40 in it from feldspars.

Posted by: Ciampino - Do not pass portcullises at June 17, 2025 09:03 PM (sPQoU)

451 If my cats survive this and I don't, I hope I'm delicious.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (Ax924)

"Isn't it adorable? They're massaging my arm!"

"Wake up, man! They're tenderizing you!"

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 17, 2025 09:03 PM (bA75n)

452 406 The Jolly Roger's Tomcat is still the best livery.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 08:21 PM (A5bjg)
Slightly less than the Jolly Rogers F4J Phantom II flown by VF 84, my squadron.

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 09:07 PM (LHPAg)

453 The Hornet is an amazing money sink.
New capabilities, you have to redesign the whole airplane.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 08:33 PM (BNLtx)

I had a friend in college who had an AMC Hornet station wagon. I do believe that, yes, it was a money sink.

Posted by: Schroedinger's Cat Wears the Emperor's New Clothes at June 17, 2025 09:24 PM (bWR5k)

454 230 212 So that warning from Iran.. maybe they do have that nuke some of us think they have
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (VE6XX)

all that looks certain so far is that there have been a lot of launches, so a pretty big missile strike is incoming. But it will be a couple hours before we know how big.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 06:58 PM (uWKK

With one of two nuke plants out, so I read and I know as much about this as the screaming harpies on X, I still think Wylie Coyote boom and a nasty crater where Tehran used to be tomorrow.

Most of the scientists are vaporized. I suppose a janitor could try.

I never worry. I am weird this way. Perhaps if a boom knocks me out of bed I will worry or think earthquake. Unless there are snakes and serial killers involved I remain calm.

Have sex everyone!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 09:47 PM (6PCLE)

455 Simple enough logic: Iran could have built a bomb by now if they wanted to. They did not get rid of a bomb program because they saw what happened to Gaddaffi.

Thanks Hillary, that was a really brilliant play. A man does what you want, and you then kill him.

Posted by: Eric2 at June 17, 2025 09:55 PM (q7Vou)

The Obama-Biden Policy of "Catch and Release" Is Over as Trump Does Not Release a Single Illegal Alien in May

There have been a couple of illegals released here and there, but you can count them on two hands.

And now: None.

Border Patrol agents didn't release a single migrant into the US last month -- a staggering drop after the Biden administration allowed 64,000 illegal crossers in the country in May 2024, The Post can exclusively reveal.
Agents caught 8,725 migrants crossing illegally at the southern border last month.
That's a 93% decrease from May 2024, when 117,905 were nabbed, according to internal data obtained by The Post.
And acting Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Pete Flores said it's a result of the Trump administration's tough border policies.
One of the most monumental policy changes made by Trump was the reversal of President Joe Biden's catch-and-release scheme, which resulted in millions of illegal border jumpers being allowed into the US.
"Under the leadership of this administration, CBP has received historic support resulting in another 93% decrease in illegal crossings along the southwest border this month when compared with last year," Flores said in a statement shared with The Post.
...
Border Patrol agents are nearing their goal of gaining full "operational control" of the southern border with the massive drop in illegal crossings, National Border Patrol Council president Paul Perez told The Post last week.

Perez complained that Biden had taken Border Patrol officers off the border, to have them sit at desks and fill out the paperwork for illegal aliens to get their free pass into America.

Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
ZERO releases of illegal aliens into the US during the month of May by Border Patrol.
Why does this matter? I am not aware of a single illegal alien being arrested for an egregious crime against an American after being caught & released at the border under the new Trump admin in the last 5 months.
Catch and release is over. A complete 180 from what we saw at the border during the Biden admin.

US Attorney Bill Essayli tells insurrectionits, "You spit, we hit."

Rapid Response 47
@RapidResponse47
.@USAttyEssayli details charges against LA rioters, over attempted arson of a police vehicle and assaulting a federal agent:
"As our president said, if you spit, we hit -- and we will hit you with a felony."

He also said that the illegal alien terrorist who threw chunks of concrete down at cops from an overpass will face a minimum of five years in prison, and a maximum of 20.

Texas is taking care of the rioters and border-scoffers:

Hundreds of immigration charges were filed in the Southern District of Texas, including against a woman assaulting and threatening federal agents.
In one week, 332 people were charged; 205 people were charged with illegal entry; 109 with felony illegal reentry after previously being deported. Most arrested have prior felony convictions and charges; 10 cases involve human smuggling.
Among those arrested was Mexican national Maria Isabel Cruz-Salas, living in the border town of San Benito in the Rio Grande Valley. While authorities conducted a worksite enforcement operation at Taqueria El Mante, an ICE Homeland Security Investigations agent attempted to detain her and she kicked him in the face, according to the charges. If convicted, she faces up to eight years in federal prison and up to a $250,000 fine.
In another case, a San Antonio woman, Michelle Lee Varela, was taken into custody after allegedly threatening an ICE-HSI agent while performing his duties. According to the charges, while authorities were conducting an immigration action and requested information from Varela about her husband's status in the U.S., she "allegedly used profanity and said if her husband was taken into custody, she would shoot them."

Wonderful.

And Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy announced a "You break it, you bought it" policy: No DOT funds for any state that doesn't cooperate with ICE, and no funds for repairing federal highways that lawless anarchist state governors allow their antifa street militias to destroy.

The @USDOT will NOT fund rogue state actors who refuse to cooperate with federal immigration enforcement.

And to cities that stand by while rioters destroy transportation infrastructure — don’t expect a red cent from DOT, either. Follow the law, or forfeit the funding. https://t.co/cCRi4ALT23
— Secretary Sean Duffy (@SecDuffy) June 16, 2025

🚨 JUST IN: Sec. Sean Duffy says sanctuary states will not get “ONE RED CENT” from the federal government to repair infrastructure damage caused by rioters

This comes after rioters were seen destroying roadways and using the concrete to throw at officers

In addition, he’s… pic.twitter.com/XDctRxR0RR
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) June 16, 2025

Meanwhile, the media has a new euphemism to excuse away Democrat crime:

New media term for the crime that is obstruction just dropped. https://t.co/jVT8dezAPa pic.twitter.com/ikVGrOkzPQ
— Drew Holden (@DrewHolden360) June 17, 2025

Started // Going pic.twitter.com/WNXZNUbVtw
— Drew Holden (@DrewHolden360) June 17, 2025

He sees the cameras.
He then sees ICE Agents
He then immediately locks arms.

This video portion is somehow not making the rounds with major media outlets. https://t.co/pkfAFC6NA0
— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) June 17, 2025

Brit Hume
@brithume

We seem to have reached the point in our politics where the ticket to stardom in one of our parties is to interfere with federal agents executing immigration warrants and to get arrested while doing so. Is there majority support for this?

Posted by: Ace at 06:14 PM

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1 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 17, 2025 06:14 PM (GYt5+)

2 2nd

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 17, 2025 06:14 PM (GYt5+)

3 3rd

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (GYt5+)

4 I called the otters

Posted by: Max Power at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (q177U)

5 And nooded

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (GYt5+)

6 I voted for this.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (u73oe)

7 Winning!

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 06:16 PM (aBgBM)

8
Trump takes all the fish home. Releases none of them.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 06:16 PM (IifOV)

9 Good!

Just realized that being this hardball should have a knock-on effect in other areas besides crime and fraud.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:17 PM (BNLtx)

10 I think it was the NYT ran a big article about how it may be the first year in like 70 that the USA will have a net reduction in immigration rather than increase!!!! ZOMG!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:17 PM (e7kz6)

11 It's about goddamn time.

Posted by: Guy who thinks it's about goddamn time at June 17, 2025 06:17 PM (TbWk/)

12 When will a streaming service like Peacock revive that TV series Alien Nation? They have to be thinking about it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:18 PM (BNLtx)

13 Hume Cronyn >> Brit Hume

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 06:18 PM (PiwSw)

14 I like how Brit Hume can only express sentiments like he's complaining about a mild case of indigestion brought on by one too many canapes.

Is there another commenter that so clearly articulates the concern of the working man?

Maybe George Will.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 06:18 PM (gNBgg)

15 Yeah "escort a migrant" is a strange euphemism for "attempted to assist a fugitive flee justice." The problem for these guys is that they always got away with it before, why not try it again!?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (e7kz6)

16
"Escort a migrant"?

Migrant escort's do the jobs Americans won't.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (IifOV)

17 I can see a new set of ads coming.

If you want to employ cheap Mexican labor for your business or home, you'll have to move to Mexico.

Give up your US citizenship today! Mexico is waiting (to fleece you) for you!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (S/Y4j)

18 Southwest Airlines - You are now free to move about the country. NOT.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (PfGa7)

19 So far I am liking this movie.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (jc0TO)

20 Escort a migrant

Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (YwEeS)

21 His name is BRAD Landers?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (BNLtx)

22 And what Lander did is ACTUAL obstruction, not like standing on the sidewalk filming a traffic stop.

Posted by: That guy should do federal time at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (TbWk/)

23 How does the woman in the ad keep that fabric covering her boobs? Asking for a friend

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (akw+7)

24 Brad Lander: Male Escort

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 06:20 PM (Q/0Dk)

25
(X) I voted for this

( )I did not vote for this

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 06:20 PM (IifOV)

26 Lawless jerk. I’m embarrassed to admit that I’m from NY. Upstate was a great place to grow up. I didn’t appreciate how free we were, and how most of the people there were normal and possessed common sense.

Posted by: Unkaren at June 17, 2025 06:20 PM (LPL2Y)

27 Throw them all out.

The entire family, so as not to break them up.

Chip their brains. If they try to come back without going through proper channels, detonate.

Problem solved.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 06:20 PM (W2Pud)

28 Brad Landers, male escort of Greenwich Village

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:20 PM (BNLtx)

29
But my lawn needs mowing!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 06:20 PM (Q+BiN)

30 I guess we'll have to wait two years but I'm pretty sure Spaceballs 2 will mostly lampoon the Right and the cartoon versions of said same that the libs jerk off to every night.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 06:20 PM (E0p3T)

31 Good

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM (xcxpd)

32 > And what Lander did is ACTUAL obstruction, not like standing on the sidewalk filming a traffic stop.

Dude. Duuuuude. Are you one of those "First Amendment Auditors?"

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM (lIio7)

33 If you want to employ cheap Mexican labor for your business or home, you'll have to move to Mexico.

it's not actually that hard! emigrate away!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

34 (X) I voted for this

( )I did not vote for this

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM (/Ghsb)

35 Hume Cronyn played Oppenheimer first.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM (63Dwl)

36 23 How does the woman in the ad keep that fabric covering her boobs? Asking for a friend
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (akw+7)

____________________

King Harv applied some "adhesive."

Posted by: I'm going with an alias for this at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM (dIske)

37 Instead of off-world colonies, there is Mexico.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:22 PM (BNLtx)

38 ****and said if her husband was taken into custody, she would shoot them."
-----------

Our system of justice had become so corrupt that they have less respect for our officers than they do for the Mexican officers back home. - You know she wouldn't have said that to a Mexican cop.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:22 PM (Ffc+8)

39 38 Instead of off-world colonies, there is Mexico.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:22 PM (BNLtx)

AKA: God's blind spot

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 06:23 PM (xcxpd)

40 In more good news, Gavin Newsom is crying because TGE is not, in fact, going to be granting waivers to BigAg and the hospitality industry:
x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1934966272275689745

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 06:23 PM (gKWVE)

41 9 Good!

Just realized that being this hardball should have a knock-on effect in other areas besides crime and fraud.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:17 PM (BNLtx)

====

"Rent prices."
-me, for, like, 5 months

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 17, 2025 06:23 PM (GBKbO)

42 It's about goddamn time.
Posted by: Guy who thinks it's about goddamn time at June 17, 2025 06:17 PM (TbWk/)

——————

I laughed so loud at this the dog looked at me like I’m retarded.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 06:23 PM (u73oe)

43 Brad Lander: Male Escort
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 06:20 PM (Q/0Dkah

Hah! Good one.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:23 PM (VofaG)

44 Missles.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 06:23 PM (P9gC0)

45 Why would ICE show some rando a warrant when they arrest someone? I'm in the "it's none of your fucking business" camp on this.

Posted by: huerfano at June 17, 2025 06:23 PM (n2swS)

46 Missles.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 06:23 PM

There's a vaccination for that.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 06:24 PM (jc0TO)

47 I do not like the creepy women with the saggy boobs.

Posted by: Max Power at June 17, 2025 06:24 PM (q177U)

48 King Missile?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:24 PM (BNLtx)

49 45 Why would ICE show some rando a warrant when they arrest someone? I'm in the "it's none of your fucking business" camp on this.
Posted by: huerfano at June 17, 2025 06:23 PM (n2swS)

====

It's the line of defense the left has.

It's stupid, but they're going to use it.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 17, 2025 06:24 PM (GBKbO)

50 Missles.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 06:23 PM (P9gC0)

————

Into LA? I’m listening.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (u73oe)

51 Lander cross endorsed Mamdani in the NY Dem primary for Mayor. Lander seems not to realize the Mamdani a Marxist Muslim would toss a Jewish guy like Lander off a roof in a heartbeat. Not the sharpest tack in the box

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (akw+7)

52
Damn. Seeing what I voted for actually happening is making my foreskin into rhino leather from overuse.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (y9nCu)

53 The mayor of Los Angeles complaining that their economy depends on illegals is like the mayor of New York complaining that NYC's economy depends on the mob and Giuliani should stop arresting them.

Whose fault is it that you built your entire economy around criminals??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (e7kz6)

54 We seem to have reached the point in our politics where the ticket to stardom in one of our parties is to interfere with federal agents executing immigration warrants and to get arrested while doing so. Is there majority support for this?

-------------

Yes -- where it matters -- in Beijing.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (cXxcy)

55 32 > And what Lander did is ACTUAL obstruction, not like standing on the sidewalk filming a traffic stop.

Dude. Duuuuude. Are you one of those "First Amendment Auditors?"
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM (lIio7)

As a state employee, we received training to deal with them.
So far, haven't been approached by one though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (xcxpd)

56 So, on the one hand ai is going to steal our jobs.

And on the other, we can't deport anyone because no one wants those jobs.

What will America do?

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (GBKbO)

57 Instead of off-world colonies, there is Mexico.
Posted by: Anna

Any bar in Tijuana would rival the ones Han Solo has been in.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (PfGa7)

58 Damn. Seeing what I voted for actually happening is making my foreskin into rhino leather from overuse.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (y9nCu)

vivd

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 06:26 PM (xcxpd)

59 How the HELL is this LEGAL? Sean Duffy to withhold transportation funds from cities with anti-ICE protests

California needs to withhold ALL federal taxes.

I believe it was H.L. Mencken who said: "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."

Were they paying attention on Saturday? There is not a place in this country where they won't find anti-ICE beliefs.

No, not legal. But as long as the Republican congressman are cowering in the corner, they'll get away with it.

SCOTUS would have a hard time with this one. They naturally want to punish liberals. But they also know there were protests in 50 states so you cannot just punish blue states by that logic.

Brilliant! Force the commuters to walk to work and while you're at it, put Whites Only seats on the buses.

It will be raining lawsuits on his head. Stop calling this the United States. The Confederate States is closer under the MAGA regime.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 06:26 PM (ycI94)

60 48 King Missile?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:24 PM (BNLtx)

It's detachable?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 06:26 PM (xcxpd)

61 There are some hilariously odd things being pushed by the left right now.

1) Illegal immigration is a civil crime, like jaywalking (BZZZT its a federal crime)
2) You have to show due process and warrants and such to arrest someone who is a fugitive from justice (BZZZT no you do not)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:27 PM (e7kz6)

62 Damn. Seeing what I voted for actually happening is making my foreskin into rhino leather from overuse.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (y9nCu)

Okay so not Jewish .

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:27 PM (VofaG)

63 We have large segments of our economy built around slave labor!

-Jeff Davis, 1860

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 06:27 PM (u73oe)

64 59 Were they paying attention on Saturday? There is not a place in this country where they won't find anti-ICE beliefs.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 06:26 PM (ycI9

===

No damage to any infrastructure in FL. FL doesn't have to worry about this problem.

Weird.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 17, 2025 06:28 PM (GBKbO)

65 You can bet Britt Hume never wore dungarees.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 06:28 PM (fV+MH)

66 How the HELL is this LEGAL? Sean Duffy to withhold transportation funds from cities with anti-ICE protests

This is how DUmmies interpret "federal money will not go to sanctuary cities." They are being so MEEANNN!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:28 PM (e7kz6)

67 I refuse to even have a friend named Brad.

Posted by: jsg at June 17, 2025 06:28 PM (iGK7y)

68 > As a state employee, we received training to deal with them. So far, haven't been approached by one though.

Did you see the trial of that tool Chile DeCastro? It was hilarious when he thought he had the trial in the bag and he was going to get a slap on the wrist, but the Judge dropped the hammer. Watching him try to figure out what just happened was magical.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 06:28 PM (lIio7)

69 Damn. Seeing what I voted for actually happening is making my foreskin into rhino leather from overuse.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (y9nCu)

---------------

Rhino Shield

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 06:29 PM (cXxcy)

70 King Missile?
Posted by: Anna Puma

No Kings!

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 06:29 PM (Q/0Dk)

71
Britt Ekland >>>> Brit Hume

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 06:29 PM (Q+BiN)

72 That's a lot of winning.

But time for NBC Nightly Propaganda fest telling us how horrible everything is.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 06:29 PM (jvJvP)

73 Out: Prison Break

In: Escort

Out: Child Sex Slave

In: Unaccompanied minor

Out: Gay porn

In: Banned books

Posted by: A Trannypire at June 17, 2025 06:30 PM (t0Rmr)

74
Dude. Duuuuude. Are you one of those "First Amendment Auditors?"
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM (lIio7)

I don't know who I hate more, those gaping asshole auditors or the dumbshit cops who blunder into their trap by acting all Billy Badass I Got A Badge And You Don't.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:30 PM (y9nCu)

75 Were they paying attention on Saturday? There is not a place in this country where they won't find anti-ICE beliefs.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 06:26 PM (ycI9

Apparently this DU poster has a reading comprehension problem.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:30 PM (VofaG)

76 Brit, majority support for what? Arresting politicians? Arresting illegals?

Because I'm suspect the answer to both questions is: Hell yeah!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 06:31 PM (tT6L1)

77 Look how the Left wants their King Judges to rescue them .

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:31 PM (VofaG)

78 those gaping asshole auditors or the dumbshit cops who blunder into their trap by acting all Billy Badass I Got A Badge And You Don't.

Yeah there are no good guys in those confrontations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:31 PM (e7kz6)

79 How the HELL is this LEGAL? Sean Duffy to withhold transportation funds from cities with anti-ICE protests

Beats the hell out of us.

Posted by: The 55 mph speed limit and drinking age of 21 at June 17, 2025 06:31 PM (Wnv9h)

80 Yeah "escort a migrant" is a strange euphemism for "attempted to assist a fugitive flee justice." The problem for these guys is that they always got away with it before, why not try it again!?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (e7kz6)

Had no idea escorting criminals what what a comptroller does.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:32 PM (8avO+)

81 King Missile?
Posted by: Anna Puma

No Kings!
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 06:29 PM (Q/0Dk)

Princess Missiles!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 06:32 PM (S/Y4j)

82 Were they paying attention on Saturday? There is not a place in this country where they won't find anti-ICE beliefs.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 06:26 PM (ycI94)

LOL you should get out more.

If your Mom will let you.

Posted by: jsg at June 17, 2025 06:32 PM (iGK7y)

83 REPORT: Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’

Whi is running Iran?
The same people who ran Zombie Biden.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 17, 2025 06:32 PM (/lPRQ)

84 Priscilla Alvarez @priscialva 6m
“Secretary Noem had an allergic reaction today. She was transported to the hospital out of an abundance of caution. She is alert and recovering,” said DHS spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 06:32 PM (2yoRf)

85 Did you see the trial of that tool Chile DeCastro? It was hilarious when he thought he had the trial in the bag and he was going to get a slap on the wrist, but the Judge dropped the hammer. Watching him try to figure out what just happened was magical.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 06:28 PM (lIio7)

I was unaware of him.
But I know the law is just what a judge says it is.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 06:32 PM (xcxpd)

86 Apparently this DU poster has a reading comprehension problem.
Posted by: polynikes

That wasn't part of the recent download, but "ICE kidnappings" and "escorting migrants" certainly was!!!

Posted by: DU Poster at June 17, 2025 06:32 PM (ycI94)

87
Okay so not Jewish .
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:27 PM (VofaG)

Errrr, I'm disturbed at your interest in my foreskin, bud.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:33 PM (y9nCu)

88 > 1) Illegal immigration is a civil crime, like jaywalking (BZZZT its a federal crime)

The smarter ones will argue that being in the country illegally isn't a federal crime. They're baiting you to disagree, at which point they smugly inform you that a visa overstay isn't the same as illegally entering the country. They'll point out a visa overstay has only committed a civil violation.

This argument may be technically correct (I'm not a lawyer), but it's just a tactic to win the debate. They don't care about the myriad other crimes illegals engage in to hide from enforcement agencies.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 06:33 PM (lIio7)

89 Trying to escort a migrant...

Sorta like how Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz were trying to escort minors.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 06:33 PM (dGCAG)

90 67 I refuse to even have a friend named Brad.
Posted by: jsg at June 17, 2025 06:28 PM (iGK7y)

I say, that's not very sporting.

Posted by: Chip at June 17, 2025 06:33 PM (gKWVE)

91 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 06:26 PM (ycI94)

LOL you should get out more.

If your Mom will let you.
Posted by: jsg at June 17, 2025 06:32 PM (iGK7y)

For many, getting out isn't the problem. Getting back in would be.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (S/Y4j)

92
Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’

_________

Aaron Judge goes to the Rockies for prospects.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (QnmlO)

93 Is there majority support for this?

-------------

Yes -- where it matters -- in Beijing.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17

boom. there it is.

innit?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (/Ghsb)

94 Lander was trying to escort an immigrant? Had they not agreed on a price yet and needed to get someplace quiet to negotiate? Get to know each other better?

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (LHPAg)

95 I don't know who I hate more, those gaping asshole auditors or the dumbshit cops who blunder into their trap by acting all Billy Badass I Got A Badge And You Don't.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Cops. If they knew the law, and knew the laws they were paid to enforce, there would be no issue. The fact that they don't know, is why those auditors exist in the first place. Fuck those cops.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (PfGa7)

96 Breaking News: The following Pepsi and Mountain Dew flavors are being discontinued:

Pepsi Lime
Pepsi Peach
Nitro Pepsi
Nitro Pepsi Vanilla
Mountain Dew Major Melon
Mountain Dew Zero Sugar Major Melon
Mountain Dew Spark
Mountain Dew Spark Zero Sugar
Mountain Dew Purple Thunder Zero Sugar
Mountain Dew Caffeine Free
Mountain Dew White Out
Mountain Dew Kickstart Mango Lime
Mountain Dew Kickstart Original Dew
Mountain Dew Kickstart Blueberry Pomegranate

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (0sNs1)

97 Had no idea escorting criminals what what a comptroller does.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:32 PM (8avO+)
---
To me, it's always been one of those titles that sounds important, but really doesn't have much meaning.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (GlyvH)

98
Apparently this DU poster has a reading comprehension problem.
Posted by: polynikes

================

It's a reading selection problem, not a reading comprehension problem. Every lefty MSM report is that the nation rose up in one voice and said NO KINGS, and we're on our way to removing Trump.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (wbZPZ)

99 Errrr, I'm disturbed at your interest in my foreskin, bud.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:33 PM (y9nCu)

You whipped it out right in front of me. I couldn't look away fast enough.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM (VofaG)

100 Yeah "escort a migrant" is a strange euphemism for "attempted to assist a fugitive flee justice." The problem for these guys is that they always got away with it before, why not try it again!?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

If you’re a Democrat politician, you've probably spent a lot of time with migrant escorts, so it's not such a crazy word connection for them to make. Everyone likes big booty Latinas...or desperate, buff dudes.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM (ycI94)

101 Trump address coming.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM (P9gC0)

102 King Missile?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:24 PM (BNLtx)

It's detachable?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 06:26 PM

ISWYDT.

Posted by: The 55 mph speed limit and drinking age of 21 at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM (Wnv9h)

103 DU: California needs to withhold ALL federal taxes.

--------

um...that aint how Taxes work you dope. It goes straight to the IRS.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM (8avO+)

104 You whipped it out right in front of me. I couldn't look away fast enough.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM

Like staring at the Sun.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM (jc0TO)

105 Scripted political theater stunts are like bad improv: When it's funny, it's funny, but when it's not funny, you just want to kick them in the nads.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM (pMi6S)

106 The smarter ones will argue that being in the country illegally isn't a federal crime.

Except it is, because people who sneak into the country are not overstaying a visa. They never GOT a visa, they are trespassing and violating federal law. And as you point out, compound that with social security fraud, welfare fraud, tax fraud, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:36 PM (e7kz6)

107 I like how Dem politicians will still say they want a strong, secure border but will go the mat to prevent deporting a single illegal, including those arrested/convicted of crimes. It as if they don't really believe it.

Posted by: Ripley at June 17, 2025 06:36 PM (21TM2)

108 Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’

_________

It's 2:05 am. Best get with it before it's morning.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 06:36 PM (PfGa7)

109 > I don't know who I hate more, those gaping asshole auditors or the dumbshit cops who blunder into their trap by acting all Billy Badass I Got A Badge And You Don't.

Sure, in those instances I root for injuries. But I've also seen plenty of those videos where the cop is just trying to do their job and the "auditor" makes a total nuisance of themselves. In those cases, the cops basically plead with them to stop being stupid and eventually are practically forced to arrest them so they will stop obstructing.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 06:36 PM (lIio7)

110 Reading DU is a practical lesson on mental illness.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 17, 2025 06:36 PM (pohLc)

111 You whipped it out right in front of me. I couldn't look away fast enough.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM

Did he at least excuse himself before he whipped it out?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 06:36 PM (Wnv9h)

112
I refuse to even have a friend named Brad.
Posted by: jsg

How about a car?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM (63Dwl)

113 Except it is, because people who sneak into the country are not overstaying a visa. They never GOT a visa, they are trespassing and violating federal law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:36 PM

Failing to present at a Port of Entry.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM (jc0TO)

114 Hah.

I think we could have a hell of a flame war in here over the Cops v. Auditors debate.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM (fV+MH)

115 LOL, Iranians are producing massive amounts of lies. They are definitely winning on that front.

So much BS, stuff like "Iron Dome is down!"

As I'm watching the live feed of Iron Dome launches and subsequent mid-air flashes of light.

And, proving they are the most retarded of retards, a bunch of Pali kids loaded an Iranian missile booster to the roof of their Yugo and are driving around with it chanting death to Israel.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM (G1EQj)

116 Aaron Judge goes to the Rockies for prospects.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (QnmlO)

Jesus Judge hitting with no air to stop the ball.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM (8avO+)

117 You whipped it out right in front of me. I couldn't look away fast enough.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM (VofaG)

A surprise you'll remember for centuries

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 06:38 PM (gKWVE)

118 108 Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’

Yeah, that foreskin story will haunt my future family for generations.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 06:38 PM (jvJvP)

119 (X) I voted for this

( )I did not vote for this
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM

"You voted for it because you were misled by the disinformation and gaslighting of the vast right-wing media complex.

When we take over, we are going to rectify that, good and hard."

-- J. Random DUCommenter

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 06:38 PM (0sNs1)

120 Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’

That could be taken so many ways. Perhaps the Mullahs are going to surrender.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 06:38 PM (jc0TO)

121 Pre positioned Auditors are just Karens with a camera.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:38 PM (VofaG)

122 Iranians are being told that the Zionist are just moments away from total collapse.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 06:39 PM (DLqye)

123 108 Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’

_________

It's 2:05 am. Best get with it before it's morning.
____________________________
And the Mossad's response is perfect:

https://tinyurl.com/mu9md33a

Posted by: beckster at June 17, 2025 06:39 PM (NLtte)

124 The Iranian surprise: the entire nation announces it's gay. It's Pride Month. The Israelis can't attack them anymore.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 06:39 PM (akw+7)

125 94 Lander was trying to escort an immigrant? Had they not agreed on a price yet and needed to get someplace quiet to negotiate? Get to know each other better?
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (LHPAg)

Great point, maybe the word escort isn't the best euphemism.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 06:40 PM (v2VfP)

126 The smarter ones will argue that being in the country illegally isn't a federal crime. They're baiting you to disagree, at which point they smugly inform you that a visa overstay isn't the same as illegally entering the country.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 06:33 PM (lIio7)

Uh, no. A Visa overstay shows prior planning to break our immigration law. They are still in the country illegally, AND you can add a bit of conspiracy on top...

(3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

By staying past your Visa, on purpose, you have concealed a material fact... as well as committed fraud, and made a false statement to an Agent of the US.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:40 PM (mP0Kj)

127 The smarter ones will argue that being in the country illegally isn't a federal crime.

Except it is, because people who sneak into the country are not overstaying a visa. They never GOT a visa, they are trespassing and violating federal law. And as you point out, compound that with social security fraud, welfare fraud, tax fraud, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:36 PM (e7kz6)

And there are international rules for where migrants go for processing. A dusty trail and sneaking into Arizona isn't on any of those. It has to be in the closest safe nation.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:40 PM (8avO+)

128 Errrr, I'm disturbed at your interest in my foreskin, bud.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:33 PM (y9nCu)

You whipped it out right in front of me. I couldn't look away fast enough.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:35 PM

Sometimes, the mohel has to go to the mountain.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 06:40 PM (0sNs1)

129
Oh, it's a "terrifying warning". Must deal with Lena Dunham and no clothes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 06:40 PM (QnmlO)

130 I think we could have a hell of a flame war in here over the Cops v. Auditors debate.
Posted by: eleven

Especially the 2A auditors. It all comes down too, if they aren't breaking the law, there is no reason to approach an initiate contact.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM (PfGa7)

131 Hello ? Hello ??

Is this Manager ?

Posted by: Intercepted Iranian Transmission at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM (iGK7y)

132 MANHANDLED

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM (UjdFS)

133 96 Breaking News: The following Pepsi and Mountain Dew flavors are being discontinued:

Pepsi Lime
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Mountain Dew Major Melon
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Mountain Dew Caffeine Free
Mountain Dew White Out
Mountain Dew Kickstart Mango Lime
Mountain Dew Kickstart Original Dew
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Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (0sNs1)
You made that up.

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM (LHPAg)

134 So...illegal aliens from cartel countries are these democrats actual constituents. Huh. How much they getting paid?

Posted by: Derak at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM (un+3R)

135 So, the NY City comptroller was pandering himself to the illegal?
One would think a city comptroller would appeal to a more affluent client.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM (Ffc+8)

136 Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’
---
This time, for real?

Like for real real like the 500 other times you've said the same thing over the last few days?

Or will next time be the real time?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM (G1EQj)

137
Lander cross endorsed Mamdani in the NY Dem primary for Mayor. Lander seems not to realize the Mamdani a Marxist Muslim would toss a Jewish guy like Lander off a roof in a heartbeat. Not the sharpest tack in the box
Posted by: Smell the Glove

===============

What does that mean, cross endorsed?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM (wbZPZ)

138 I think we could have a hell of a flame war in here over the Cops v. Auditors debate.
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM

Yeah...watch douchenozzles like LiA and News Now NH or whatever that loser calls himself. Some cops are assholes. All frauditors are assholes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM (Wnv9h)

139 compound that with social security fraud, welfare fraud, tax fraud, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

90% of my liberal neighbors exclusively hire illegals to do their house repair, landscaping, etc., and 100% of the time they pay (at the illegals' request) in cash. The hypocritical lefty white homeowners like it because they pay less to get the work done, and the illegals like it BECAUSE THEY DON'T PAY INCOME TAX and have no intention of ever declaring the cash payment on any 1040 form.

Nearly all illegals who WORK in the US commit tax fraud, and nearly all illegals who DON'T work in the U.S. collect welfare benefits of various kinds and so commit welfare fraud.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM (pMi6S)

140 Is it too much to hope for that illegals and Dems helping the fall down a flight of stairs? they may be unsteady on their feet, because their brain functions are flat-lining.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM (u82oZ)

141 It has to be in the closest safe nation.

Right, you aren't a refugee if you pass through several other safe nations to get to the USA, you're just an illegal immigrant. And the places these people are "escaping from" are not hell holes of war and famine, they are just 3rd world crappy places that are run badly. You are not a refugee because you fled Mexico City on account of how much it sucks. You're just trying to sneak into my house.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM (e7kz6)

142 Dallas had a married couple that got pulled over by the cops yesterday that had been living in Dallas illegally for over 20 years. Driving without a license with no insurance. They got cuffed and stuffed after it was determined they were in the country illegally and are now facing a deportation hearing.

The stupid part of this is they came to the US over 20 years ago on a tourist visa from mexico and just stayed here after the visa expired. At any time before the visa expired they could have applied to become citizens but they chose not to.

Their adult kids who were all born here are now crying and moaning that they will forever be separated from mom and dad if they get deported for being illegal. Tough $hit, go to mexico and visit mom and pop after they get deported.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM (e5NfL)

143 >Had no idea escorting criminals what what a comptroller does.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:32 PM (8avO+)

No, as Beverly Goldberg discovered, the job of a comptroller is to comptrol.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM (pKqLo)

144 Brad the comptroller is running for mayor and no one knows who he is or what a comptroller is. Brad boosts his visibility with a stunt that gets him arrested and increases his visibility ten-fold.

10x0=0

Posted by: huerfano at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM (n2swS)

145 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM (G1EQj)

Yeah, Iran supposedly shot down 3 F-35s this week... but the 'picture' they use to prove it is so fake as to be stupid.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM (mP0Kj)

146 [O/T:] Trump proclaims today's date "a day in commemoration of the 250th anniversary of the Battle of Bunker Hill."

https://is.gd/2amlMe

(Interesting random link name generated there)

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 06:43 PM (cXxcy)

147 @137 the Dem primary is rank choice. They are telling their supporters to put the other guy second in their ranked vote

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 06:43 PM (akw+7)

148 there once was a man named Lander,
who really loved to pander....

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 06:43 PM (rvwwT)

149 Only Tuscan Mountain Dew for me.

Costs a little more.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 06:43 PM (fV+MH)

150 The smarter ones will argue that being in the country illegally isn't a federal crime.
---
Did they register and provide fingerprints?

Cause that's another federal crime for anyone here who is not a citizen, if they don't.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 06:43 PM (G1EQj)

151 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM (G1EQj)

Yeah, Iran supposedly shot down 3 F-35s this week... but the 'picture' they use to prove it is so fake as to be stupid.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM (mP0Kj)

It isn't fake. Its a training crash in the US from 2024.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:44 PM (8avO+)

152 Especially the 2A auditors. It all comes down too, if they aren't breaking the law, there is no reason to approach an initiate contact.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM

Starting with the DUI Fisherman. Fuck that guy, in particular.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 06:44 PM (Wnv9h)

153 I swear, I could get used to this Trump guy. Actual leadership, guts, grit, with an assload of common sense. After the last 4+ years of absolute stupidity. It's like going from a diet of unseasoned white rice to Cajun cooking. Like getting hit in the head by a 100 mph fast ball. A shock to the system. And could become addicting.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 17, 2025 06:44 PM (pohLc)

154 Trumps being schizophrenic about this.

Awesome that he has sealed the border. Fucking amazingly awesome.

But then he turns around and says illegals in agriculture and hospitality can stay. While promising mass deportations.

Dude you gotta pick a lane.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:44 PM (/CkK4)

155
Brad the comptroller is running for mayor and no one knows who he is or what a comptroller is.

________

You think he has it bad.

Posted by: Prothonotaries at June 17, 2025 06:44 PM (QnmlO)

156 "Do not come."
--Kamala, crossing her fingers

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 06:45 PM (CQE5S)

157 >>>REPORT: Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’

They are remaking the original Star Wars films?

Posted by: Max Power at June 17, 2025 06:45 PM (q177U)

158 Escorting a migrant? What was he doing, taking them to a dance?

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 06:45 PM (qBdHI)

159 JUST IN: Sec. Sean Duffy says sanctuary states will not get “ONE RED CENT” from the federal government to repair infrastructure damage caused by rioters

*****

"Ahem..."

(Some Judge in Hawaii)

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (0fs9V)

160 90% of my liberal neighbors exclusively hire illegals to do their house repair, landscaping, etc., and 100% of the time they pay (at the illegals' request) in cash.

I went out of my way to make sure I had no mex crews doing the landscaping and renovation work I had done on the house for that reason and several others. It was a delight to hear people talking in English and listening to classic rock while working on the roof.

Did it cost more? Probably.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (e7kz6)

161 Judge to the Rockies might get NYC sports radio to shut up about the Knicks

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (+sNap)

162 But then he turns around and says illegals in agriculture and hospitality can stay. While promising mass deportations.

—————

He’s already rescinded that. DHS will continue raids on Ag and hospitality.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (u73oe)

163 Now no address. Full lid?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (P9gC0)

164 Nearly all illegals who WORK in the US commit tax fraud, and nearly all illegals who DON'T work in the U.S. collect welfare benefits of various kinds and so commit welfare fraud.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM

Start prosecuting the employers. Hard.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (Wnv9h)

165 Damn. Seeing what I voted for actually happening is making my foreskin into rhino leather from overuse.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (y9nCu)

Why $200 for a wallet? When you rub it, it turns into a suitcase!
/Just the punchline

Posted by: Butch at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (sOT9p)

166 158 Escorting a migrant? What was he doing, taking them to a dance?
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 06:45 PM (qBdHI)

That would be a MALE Escort? uhhh...

/Looks around for Paul Pelosi

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (mP0Kj)

167
But then he turns around and says illegals in agriculture and hospitality can stay. While promising mass deportations.

Dude you gotta pick a lane.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

==============

I don't know if you heard, but he turned around again. The raids on ag and hospitality are back on.

I don't know what the temporary halt was about, and that's all he billed it as -- no raids on ag or hospitality as of now, he said. Recalibrating or whatever?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 06:47 PM (wbZPZ)

168 The stupid part of this is they came to the US over 20 years ago on a tourist visa from mexico and just stayed here after the visa expired. At any time before the visa expired they could have applied to become citizens but they chose not to.

/-

I’m in no way defending the actions of these two.

But, it’s not that easy. You don’t just get a tourist visa come here and apply for citizenship. It’s a multi year process. Even multi decade in some cases. The backlog for Mexicans applying to immigrate legally is something like 17 years IIRC.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:47 PM (/CkK4)

169 LOL, Israel just told the people in some district in Tehran to get out.

AKA, you're human shields for the Ayatollah.

I mean, that's what Trump's tweet earlier was about--we see you and the human shields you're hiding behind.

LOL.

Boom, boom, boom, boom.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 06:47 PM (G1EQj)

170 83 REPORT: Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Unless they nuke DC, no one will remember whatever it is they clam to have up their sleeve.

All they do is bluster, bluster, bluster, and every time they fail to deliver on their bluster they end up looking foolish and more foolish. It's really weird how they never learn the lesson that's it's a bad idea to make emoty threats.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 06:47 PM (pMi6S)

171 @realDonald Trump

We know exactly where the so-called “Supreme Leader” is hiding. He is an easy targe, but is safe there – We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. [gallows laughter] Bit we don’t want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (Ffc+8)

172 Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’
.......

They're going to shoot off a half finished nuke, watch it do a 180, and hit Tehran.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (v0R5T)

173 The smarter ones will argue that being in the country illegally isn't a federal crime. They're baiting you to disagree, at which point they smugly inform you that a visa overstay isn't the same as illegally entering the country.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 06:33 PM (lIio7)

——-

Don’t care. Round them up and deport them.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (tn3dm)

174 Aaron Judge goes to the Rockies for prospects.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (QnmlO)

Jesus Judge hitting with no air to stop the ball.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM (8avO+)

Back in the day, Bill James used to try to explain park effects, and in those days it was Wrigley in Shitcago and Fenway in Beanietown. Management would think they had more than enough hitting, and not enough pitching, when park effects were causing them to overrate their hitters, and underrate their pitchers.

Then the Rockies came along. And nitwits in Denver thought Dante Bichette and Vinny Castilla were great hitters.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (dGCAG)

175 Brad the comptroller is running for mayor and no one knows who he is or what a comptroller is.

He's a fat toad, no offense to toads or fat people, but guys like that have zero shot at high office these days.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (e7kz6)

176 Did it cost more? Probably.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (e7kz6)

Yeah.... Lawn guy is outside right now... Born here although he is of Hispanic Descent.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (mP0Kj)

177 Ethically Sourced Organic Non-GMO Fair Trade Sustainable Free Range Mountain Dew for me.

Posted by: Why I do shop at Whole Foods, how did you know? at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (PiwSw)

178 REPORT: Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’
-
Given the attached video, we're obviously supposed to conclude that they're going to pop off a nuke to prove they have it.

At which point all the cucks who have spent the weekend arguing that "WMDs aren't real" and "Iran isn't our problem" will instantly pivot to "We must immediately give the Iranians whatever they want because they have nukes, so they're too dangerous to defy."

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (Dnobf)

179 But then he turns around and says illegals in agriculture and hospitality can stay. While promising mass deportations.

Dude you gotta pick a lane.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:44 PM (/CkK4)

He didn't say they can stay . He directed ICE to concentrate on criminal and non Ag and Hospitality first. He's hoping for more self deportations and the least amount of damage to those business sectors by giving them a chance to get their shit in order before the hammer falls. Its the smart move and the move I think he intended to start with.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (VofaG)

180 157 >>>REPORT: Iran State Media Issues Terrifying Warning About a ‘Surprise Tonight that the World Will Remember for Centuries’

They are remaking the original Star Wars films?

Posted by: Max Power at June 17, 2025 06:45 PM (q177U)

They will hack the internet and all we'll be able to get is non-stop Greatest Hits of The Captain and Tenille. Might work for the Mullahs. I and billions of others will commit suicide after 3 hours.

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (aBgBM)

181 Did it cost more? Probably.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (e7kz6)

Worth it man. My Son is a master plumber. And he charges out the ass to fix all the wetback fuckups that come his way. And a lot of them come his way.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (pohLc)

182 But, it’s not that easy. You don’t just get a tourist visa come here and apply for citizenship. It’s a multi year process. Even multi decade in some cases. The backlog for Mexicans applying to immigrate legally is something like 17 years IIRC.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:47 PM (/CkK4)

Its not supposed to be easy. If it was we might as well have open borders again

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (8avO+)

183 Totally OT. I just got an email ad offering me the chance to buy a baseball cap from a sporting goods company. The cap will have the company name prominently displayed, so I will be a walking billboard for them.

They want me to pay them $33 to do advertising for them.

I bet the hat is made in China, too.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (hdoQS)

184
I don't know if you heard, but he turned around again. The raids on ag and hospitality are back on.

—

I didn’t hear that. It’s good he did but how long until he turns around on the turnaround? He seems to do that a lot. See Tarriffs as well.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (/CkK4)

185 I mean, that's what Trump's tweet earlier was about--we see you and the human shields you're hiding behind.

LOL.

Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 06:47 PM (G1EQj)

Boom Boom... out got the lights?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (mP0Kj)

186 illegals who DON'T work in the U.S. collect welfare benefits of various kinds and so commit welfare fraud.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM

Start prosecuting the employers. Hard.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

A lot of these guys are independent operators.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 06:50 PM (pMi6S)

187 Did you see the trial of that tool Chile DeCastro? It was hilarious when he thought he had the trial in the bag and he was going to get a slap on the wrist, but the Judge dropped the hammer. Watching him try to figure out what just happened was magical.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 06:28 PM (lIio7)

He's an idiot. Gives guys like Jeff Gray and Long Island Audit a bad name. Frankly, he gives humanity a bad name.

Posted by: He's a narcissistic tard and his own worst enemy at June 17, 2025 06:50 PM (TbWk/)

188 Well I burnt through all the inheritance money on the house, so if something goes really wrong I guess I try to fix it my self now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:50 PM (e7kz6)

189 Its not supposed to be easy. If it was we might as well have open borders again
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (8avO+)

I’m Not saying it should be easy. I was simply responding to the comment that said why did they not just apply for citizenship while on a tourist visa. Cuz that’s not how it works, that’s why.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:51 PM (/CkK4)

190 Judge to the Rockies might get NYC sports radio to shut up about the Knicks
Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 06:46 PM (+sNap)

You mean people in New York aren't creaming themselves over the fact that Showboat "The Gambler" Ohtani pitched an inning last night?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 06:51 PM (dGCAG)

191 Nearly all illegals who WORK in the US commit tax fraud, and nearly all illegals who DON'T work in the U.S. collect welfare benefits of various kinds and so commit welfare fraud.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM

Yep, if you pay someone cash to work for you and you do not complete an irs form 1099 with a valid ssn not only is the cash recipient breaking the law if they do not report their income, you are also guilty of a felony for not complying with federal tax reporting laws.

I have to certify every year that we did not pay anyone more than $600 in cash or check for work other than the normal payroll which we report quarterly at our VFW when I complete and sign our tax exempt 990 form.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 06:51 PM (e5NfL)

192 >>>The backlog for Mexicans applying to immigrate legally is something like 17 years IIRC.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
-----------------

Twenty years ago there wasn't a backlog.
There also was no resistance to them staying.
If they'd have been sloppy and had a wreck or two
they would have met resistance.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:51 PM (Ffc+8)

193 lot of these guys are independent operators.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 06:50 PM

True, but to the extent they're found employed by someone else, nuke the employer.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 06:51 PM (Wnv9h)

194 At which point all the cucks who have spent the weekend arguing that "WMDs aren't real" and "Iran isn't our problem" will instantly pivot to "We must immediately give the Iranians whatever they want because they have nukes, so they're too dangerous to defy."
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (Dnobf)

Talk about misreading the audience... If'n Iran pops a Nuc... gloves will come off.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:51 PM (mP0Kj)

195 Chincoteague hospitality is all legal.

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 06:51 PM (+sNap)

196 Not one agent dug their knuckles into the Dem's ribs, right under the arm to get him to release his hold. My brothers had no issue doing this to me. Do better ICE.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 06:52 PM (Dv3i1)

197 Back in the day, Bill James used to try to explain park effects, and in those days it was Wrigley in Shitcago and Fenway in Beanietown. Management would think they had more than enough hitting, and not enough pitching, when park effects were causing them to overrate their hitters, and underrate their pitchers.

Then the Rockies came along. And nitwits in Denver thought Dante Bichette and Vinny Castilla were great hitters.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (dGCAG)

Altitude helps offense, wind can help or hurt, but high temperatures also keys to lots of hits and homers. "thin air"? pitcher fatigue?

Rockies should have built the park with a 500 foot center field wall.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM (8avO+)

198 >>>Yep, if you pay someone cash to work for you and you do not complete an irs form 1099 with a valid ssn not only is the cash recipient breaking the law if they do not report their income, you are also guilty of a felony for not complying with federal tax reporting laws.

I have to certify every year that we did not pay anyone more than $600 in cash or check for work other than the normal payroll which we report quarterly at our VFW when I complete and sign our tax exempt 990 form.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)
---------------

There you go. Pay each one of them $599.00
Casual labor I think they call it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM (Ffc+8)

199 I’m Not saying it should be easy. I was simply responding to the comment that said why did they not just apply for citizenship while on a tourist visa. Cuz that’s not how it works, that’s why.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:51 PM (/CkK4)

The point is they didn't even try.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM (VofaG)

200 @realDonald Trump

We know exactly where the so-called “Supreme Leader” is hiding. He is an easy targe, but is safe there – We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. [gallows laughter] Bit we don’t want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

US Virgin Islands?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM (/lPRQ)

201 Generally illegals don’t qualify for welfare. But the second they pop out an anchor baby…KACHING!! Because that’s baby qualifies for everything. Mama and papa start cashing fat checks the second it’s born.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM (/CkK4)

202 He's an idiot. Gives guys like Jeff Gray and Long Island Audit a bad name. Frankly, he gives humanity a bad name.
Posted by: He's a narcissistic tard and his own worst enemy at June 17, 2025 06:50 PM

Chilito is a Grade A douchecanoe, but LIA is doing a great job giving himself a bad name without any help.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM (Wnv9h)

203 200

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM (CQE5S)

204 You will be miserable. They are remaking Star Wars.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 06:54 PM (P9gC0)

205 Worth it man. My Son is a master plumber. And he charges out the ass to fix all the wetback fuckups that come his way. And a lot of them come his way.

I did have to get some electrical work redone. The main electrician was the man, he knew his work. The apprentices he hired, significantly less so. A bunch of the outdoor conduit was indoor stuff and there were other small problems.

I mean i could sue and all that but its months if not years in court and I don't think I would end up ahead in money. Just... chalk it up to experience. Now I'm really good at doing renovations at almost 60 and never gonna do it again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:54 PM (e7kz6)

206 Rockies should have built the park with a 500 foot center field wall.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM (8avO+)

Or they could have built it a few miles to the east.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 06:54 PM (dGCAG)

207 Twenty years ago there wasn't a backlog.
There also was no resistance to them staying.
If they'd have been sloppy and had a wreck or two
they would have met resistance.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:51 PM (Ffc+

The US currently has the highest rate of Foreign Born living in the US, in its history. Even at the height of immigration in 1930, it was less than 12%...

Now they acknowledge 15.6%, but that does not really count illegals who don't respond to polls.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:54 PM (mP0Kj)

208 95 I don't know who I hate more, those gaping asshole auditors or the dumbshit cops who blunder into their trap by acting all Billy Badass I Got A Badge And You Don't.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Cops. If they knew the law, and knew the laws they were paid to enforce, there would be no issue. The fact that they don't know, is why those auditors exist in the first place. Fuck those cops.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (PfGa7)

Precisely. It's well-established law that filming police in a public is a First Amendment right. But cops continue to trip the fuck out, get an inch away from the camera and start waving their dicks around. If they would just do their job there would be no controversy or problem. But their egos just can't leave it alone.

Posted by: YOU HAVE TO OBEY MUH AUTHORITUH at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (TbWk/)

209 204 You will be miserable. They are remaking Star Wars.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 06:54 PM (P9gC0)

Didn't they already remake the origin story? Just put a chick in it?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (mP0Kj)

210 Oh who? Judge is the Greatest Yankee since Joe D.
Met fans don't care either, but they don't count.

Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (+sNap)

211 Altitude helps offense, wind can help or hurt, but high temperatures also keys to lots of hits and homers. "thin air"? pitcher fatigue?

All those taters and high batting average sold a lot of tickets for years.

Before Mile High Stadium? The highest baseball park in the MLB was Atlanta LOL

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (e7kz6)

212 So that warning from Iran.. maybe they do have that nuke some of us think they have

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (VE6XX)

213 199 I’m Not saying it should be easy. I was simply responding to the comment that said why did they not just apply for citizenship while on a tourist visa. Cuz that’s not how it works, that’s why.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:51 PM (/CkK4)

The point is they didn't even try.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM (VofaG)

Dude!!! There’s no trying. It’s not how it works. You don’t just roll up and ask for citizenship while on a tourist visa. That’s my point. It’s like me asking you why didnt you even try to fly to the moon.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (/CkK4)

214 I don't know if you heard, but he turned around again. The raids on ag and hospitality are back on.

—

I didn’t hear that. It’s good he did but how long until he turns around on the turnaround? He seems to do that a lot. See Tarriffs as well.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (/CkK4)

none of them were turnarounds. He said concentrate on criminals first. now it is time for second, or third. I remember a recent raid on a meat factory and locals signing up for jobs already.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (8avO+)

215 Mossad schooled Iran. Again.

God to see you posting, zombie. You bring a lot of class and keen observation to the Horde.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 06:56 PM (u82oZ)

216
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (VofaG)

==============

Also, he has now announced that the raids on Ag and Hospitality are back on.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 06:56 PM (wbZPZ)

217 The stupid part of this is they came to the US over 20 years ago on a tourist visa from mexico and just stayed here after the visa expired. At any time before the visa expired they could have applied to become citizens but they chose not to.

Their adult kids who were all born here are now crying and moaning that they will forever be separated from mom and dad if they get deported for being illegal. Tough $hit, go to mexico and visit mom and pop after they get deported.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 06:42 PM (e5NfL)

This is why I want exit visas for this country much as exists in the Schengen Zone, Japan, ROK, Australia…

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 06:56 PM (vm8sq)

218 I mean, that's what Trump's tweet earlier was about--we see you and the human shields you're hiding behind.

LOL.

Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 06:47 PM (G1EQj)

Boom Boom... out got the lights?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:49 PM (mP0Kj)

Sinclair: No Boom?
Garibaldi: No Boom.
Ivanova: No Boom Today. Boom Tomorrow.
(Sinclair and Garibaldi walk off)
Ivanova: What?! Somebody's got to have some perspective around here!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 06:56 PM (S/Y4j)

219 Catch and Release....Like with cloth?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton, Murderess at June 17, 2025 06:56 PM (R/m4+)

220 We got class.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 06:56 PM (fV+MH)

221 the golf courses in the rockies are longer because the ball goes a lot farther.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:57 PM (VofaG)

222 Nick Sortor@nicksortor
#BREAKING: DHS Secretary Kristi Noem has been rushed to the hospital in DC
I can confirm she went by ambulance about 45 minutes ago, and that ambulance was escorted by multiple Secret Service vehicles
The nature of the emergency is unknown

-
Rumor has it, it's an allergic reaction.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 06:57 PM (L/fGl)

223 You made that up.
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM

Just because you or I have never heard of 97% of those flavors doesn't mean I made it up.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 06:57 PM (0sNs1)

224 Altitude helps offense, wind can help or hurt, but high temperatures also keys to lots of hits and homers. "thin air"? pitcher fatigue?

All those taters and high batting average sold a lot of tickets for years.

Before Mile High Stadium? The highest baseball park in the MLB was Atlanta LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (e7kz6)

He dug up stats from minor league parks in Texas and the Southwest leagues. Same players in parks from Sea Level to Denver like altitudes.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:57 PM (8avO+)

225 Chilito is a Grade A douchecanoe, but LIA is doing a great job giving himself a bad name without any help.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM (Wnv9h)

I don't know what you mean. I've watched a lot of his stuff and he doesn't instigate anything. The cops always end up swarming him because MUH AUTHORITUH. And I believe he's beaten all charges that have even brought because they were false. I've seen cops freak out and get violent with him, as well as say when they thought the cameras weren't rolling anymore "20 years ago he'd be dead." Those guys are the psychos.

Posted by: Depends if you like rights or cops at June 17, 2025 06:58 PM (TbWk/)

226 There you go. Pay each one of them $599.00
Casual labor I think they call it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:53 PM

That's per person per year so they are going to have to hire a whole bunch of different gardeners, nannies, housekeepers, etc. to keep under the mandatory reporting laws.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 06:58 PM (e5NfL)

227 215 Mossad schooled Iran. Again.

God to see you posting, zombie. You bring a lot of class and keen observation to the Horde.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 06:56 PM (u82oZ)

Place could use the upgrade… every zombie is a counterweight to every tubal…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 06:58 PM (PCK5/)

228 Did a deranged Democrat (BIRM) try to take Noem out?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:58 PM (/CkK4)

229 You made that up.
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM

Just because you or I have never heard of 97% of those flavors doesn't mean I made it up.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 06:57 PM (0sNs1)

Good thing you didn't mention Baja Blast. I like that for some reason.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:58 PM (8avO+)

230 212 So that warning from Iran.. maybe they do have that nuke some of us think they have
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (VE6XX)

all that looks certain so far is that there have been a lot of launches, so a pretty big missile strike is incoming. But it will be a couple hours before we know how big.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 06:58 PM (uWKK8)

231 I put a 24 hold on anything being reported. I have seen more Trump said that 12 hours later is shown to be pure bullshit.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 06:59 PM (DLqye)

232
Cops. If they knew the law, and knew the laws they were paid to enforce, there would be no issue. The fact that they don't know, is why those auditors exist in the first place. Fuck those cops.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (PfGa7)

Precisely. It's well-established law that filming police in a public is a First Amendment right. But cops continue to trip the fuck out, get an inch away from the camera and start waving their dicks around. If they would just do their job there would be no controversy or problem. But their egos just can't leave it alone.
Posted by: YOU HAVE TO OBEY MUH AUTHORITUH at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (TbWk/)

You’d have a massive ego too if you can hide behind the law to commit your crimes or be incompetent, and there is nothing anyone can do about it, or so they think.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 06:59 PM (vm8sq)

233 Didn't they already remake the origin story? Just put a chick in it?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (mP0Kj)

And made it gay and lame.

Posted by: Formula for success! at June 17, 2025 06:59 PM (TbWk/)

234 But then he turns around and says illegals in agriculture and hospitality can stay. While promising mass deportations.
-------
Allegedly has now walked that back and they're going too.

TACO!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 06:59 PM (2yoRf)

235 Before Mile High Stadium? The highest baseball park in the MLB was Atlanta LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (e7kz6)

Seriously?

That's weird. I'm not sure what else it would be, but I wouldn't have thought Atlanta.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 06:59 PM (dGCAG)

236 Allegedly has now walked that back and they're going too.

TACO!!!
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 06:59 PM (2yoRf

That's King TACO

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 07:00 PM (VE6XX)

237 I made boom in my pants.

Posted by: You know who at June 17, 2025 07:00 PM (KAi1n)

238 THIS was my #1 reason for voting Trump/Vance...other than I liked both men and wanted to squash Kamkook and the Ghey Pervert.

So I hope people, today, who voted for Trump/Vance yet are whining like mosquitoes that "he promised no war" will remember.

Unless it has changed, we are still not in war.

I really like some of the people who are whining elsewhere, but man up (even if you are female). They seem to completely forget who President Trump is in the art of every deal.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 07:00 PM (6PCLE)

239 It ticks off the car dealers when you switch their dealer plate surrounds with something like U.S. Navy Retired.

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 07:00 PM (LHPAg)

240
Did a deranged Democrat (BIRM) try to take Noem out?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

==============

Some weed or spicey food did.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 07:00 PM (wbZPZ)

241 228 Did a deranged Democrat (BIRM) try to take Noem out?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:58 PM (/CkK4)

Allergic reaction. I asked Nick Cage what it was, and he said "The Bees! The Bees!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 07:01 PM (uWKK8)

242 Judge is the Greatest Yankee since Joe D.
Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM

"Pfffft."
-- Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford, Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 07:01 PM (0sNs1)

243 Good thing you didn't mention Baja Blast. I like that for some reason.
Posted by: Oldcat

Baja Blast is quite good.
Far better than the original.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 17, 2025 07:01 PM (/lPRQ)

244 Tom Servo

The hits are not stopping Israel. I would advise the Iranians to not piss of the IAF.

And every launch is one less irreplaceable missile gone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:01 PM (u82oZ)

245 Not aware of the "escort" exemption to the law.

You can arrest this child pornographer till I finish escorting him to a waiting taxi.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 07:02 PM (gDhA9)

246 Funny thing about the mullahs, like leftards, no matter how many times the Jews kick their asses up around their noses, they insist on underestimating them.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 17, 2025 07:02 PM (pohLc)

247 All the other parks are in lowlands, along rivers and at the coasts, its kind of funny. Seattle's is almost at sea level, for example. LA is a little higher, but in a basin.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 07:02 PM (e7kz6)

248 Five o'clock. Time to make a drink. I think I'll dig out the peppermint and cinnamon schnapps and have a Crackhead Slammer.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 07:02 PM (hdoQS)

249 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (

Okay you can't apply for citizenship on expiration of your visa but you can apply for a green card right?

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 07:02 PM (VofaG)

250 You’d have a massive ego too if you can hide behind the law to commit your crimes or be incompetent, and there is nothing anyone can do about it, or so they think.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 06:59 PM (vm8sq)

Which is a compelling reason in my view, among other reasons, to scale back or eliminate qualified immunity.

Posted by: Very little disincentive to incompetence at June 17, 2025 07:02 PM (TbWk/)

251 Maple Syrup Mountain Dew. It goes well with French Toast...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 07:02 PM (PiwSw)

252
Then the Rockies came along. And nitwits in Denver thought Dante Bichette and Vinny Castilla were great hitters.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (dGCAG)

Williamsport
Coors Canaveral
The Launchpad

Posted by: Jim Rome at June 17, 2025 07:03 PM (vm8sq)

253 Did a deranged Democrat (BIRM) try to take Noem out?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 06:58 PM

Anybody want a peanut?

Posted by: Fezzik at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (jc0TO)

254 Iran threatens every US base in the Middle East if it joins in any strike on Iran

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (DLqye)

255 Mtn Dew was always pretty goo the first couple slugs then I had a hard time finishing it. Like Mello Yello (is that even made any more?).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (e7kz6)

256 It ticks off the car dealers when you switch their dealer plate surrounds with something like U.S. Navy Retired.

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 07:00 PM

We do that the second we get a new car home and toss the dealer thing in the trash.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (e5NfL)

257
The hits are not stopping Israel. I would advise the Iranians to not piss of the IAF.

And every launch is one less irreplaceable missile gone.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:01 PM (u82oZ)

Iran is at the use it or lose it stage. I think they're at the point where the only order left to give is to tell every unit to fire off everything they got in one last blast, and then head for the hills.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (uWKK8)

258 Lander is City Comptroller. Shouldn't he be at City Hall comptrolling? Poring over flow charts, Venn Diagrams, parking meter receipts, something? He can be a male escort on his own time.

Posted by: Deuce Bigelow at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (G5+As)

259 212 So that warning from Iran.. maybe they do have that nuke some of us think they have
Posted by: It's me donna .
---------------------------------

It'll be big and heavy. They have to move it, mount it on a rocket, and successfully launch it; all without blowing themselves up.
Also doing it unobserved by satellite and who knows what else.

If their bomb was complete we would have blown it up.
Trump is certain that they will not have one.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (Ffc+8)

260 Judge is the Greatest Yankee since Joe D.
Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM

"Pfffft."
-- Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford, Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 07:01 PM (0sNs1)

Jim Bouton.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (8avO+)

261 {{{Ben Had}}}

Got your home back yet? Dewatering can be tedious.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:05 PM (u82oZ)

262 I don't think Iran has a nuke yet, but I believe that they have enough materials around to make a nasty dirty bomb or two.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 07:05 PM (e7kz6)

263 Which is a compelling reason in my view, among other reasons, to scale back or eliminate qualified immunity.
Posted by: Very little disincentive to incompetence at June 17, 2025 07:02 PM (TbWk/)

I agree.

The cops need to be taken down a notch or two and…actually be put in a situation where, like the rest of us, they have to earn respect, not just be given it because they have a gun and a badge and allegedly wear such because they love their fellow citizens and just want to help people.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 07:06 PM (vm8sq)

264 ...you know, I have no idea what a comptroller does. Nor do I really care.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 07:06 PM (e7kz6)

265 Not familiar with the lady but...

Breaking911 @Breaking911 1h
R.I.P. — Celebrity chef & Food Network Star Anne Burrell dead at 55, cause unknown

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:06 PM (2yoRf)

266 Judge is the Greatest Yankee since Joe D.
Posted by: Accomack at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM

"Pfffft."
-- Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford, Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 07:01 PM (0sNs1)

ALBUS DUMBLEDORE IS THE GREATEST YANKEE OF OUR TIME!

Sorry, I meant Bucky Dent.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 07:06 PM (dGCAG)

267 It ticks off the car dealers when you switch their dealer plate surrounds with something like U.S. Navy Retired.
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 07:00 PM (LHPAg)

Especially when it's not your car and it's still on their lot.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 07:06 PM (hdoQS)

268 Mtn Dew was always pretty goo the first couple slugs then I had a hard time finishing it. Like Mello Yello (is that even made any more?).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Go with the Slurm.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 17, 2025 07:07 PM (/lPRQ)

269 230 212 So that warning from Iran.. maybe they do have that nuke some of us think they have
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 06:55 PM (VE6XX)

all that looks certain so far is that there have been a lot of launches, so a pretty big missile strike is incoming. But it will be a couple hours before we know how big.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 06:58 PM (uWKK

At this point with a lot of scientists turned to vapor, it could result in a Wylie Coyote reverse boom boom. That's how I imagine them at this point anyway, scurrying around like little ants in their tunnels.

Prayers for Israel and America. Apparently I don't care about anyone else today.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 07:07 PM (6PCLE)

270 Mtn Dew was always pretty goo the first couple slugs then I had a hard time finishing it. Like Mello Yello (is that even made any more?).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (e7kz6)

27 dollar for a 24 pack on Amazon

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:07 PM (8avO+)

271 256 It ticks off the car dealers when you switch their dealer plate surrounds with something like U.S. Navy Retired.

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 07:00 PM

We do that the second we get a new car home and toss the dealer thing in the trash.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (e5NfL)

Last 2 vehicles I ordered, and made it a condition of the sale that there was no dealer stickers or anything on the car.

Then totally debadged them... only 1 black bowtie on the grill of the dark grey truck right now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 07:07 PM (mP0Kj)

272 254 Iran threatens every US base in the Middle East if it joins in any strike on Iran
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If Iran strikes a US base Commander Counter Punch will eliminate every military asset they have at a minimum.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 07:07 PM (Ffc+8)

273 Ben Had

Iran would be very smart not to retaliate agains the US. We can then justifiably surge a whole lot of strike packages. Iran would not be a fun place after that.

We have some nifty weapons to stop power distribution, for example.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:08 PM (u82oZ)

274 Jim Bouton.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:04 PM (8avO+)

Horace Clark!!

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 07:08 PM (dGCAG)

275 Celebrity chef & Food Network Star Anne Burrell dead at 55

I don't understand the terms "celebrity" or "star" any longer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 07:08 PM (e7kz6)

276 Not familiar with the lady but...

Breaking911 @Breaking911 1h
R.I.P. — Celebrity chef & Food Network Star Anne Burrell dead at 55, cause unknown
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:06 PM (2yoRf)

the stocky one with white hair?

yep, i used to watch a lot of that network long ago

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:08 PM (8avO+)

277 Wasn't there a Mountain Dew type soda that came out a while back, started with a "C" I think?

Posted by: Knockoff or competitor? at June 17, 2025 07:09 PM (TbWk/)

278
December 6, 1941

IJN promises "a Surprise that the World Will Remember for Centuries"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:09 PM (QnmlO)

279 Atlanta averages about 1250' elevation. Nearly a quarter mile.

Posted by: Geography Facts U Can Use at June 17, 2025 07:09 PM (G5+As)

280 If it was mentioned I missed it, but there is a campaign brewing to get Mike Lee ousted for his comments on X about the man that assassinated the MN congresspeople. It's unbecoming and disgraceful and beneath his job to make light of their deaths, apparently. All my liberal friends are spitting mad about it.

Meanwhile, I'm sure these same people drew hearts and stars around Luigi for shooting that insurance CEO, bless their hearts. And would have mocked Trump had he been killed (thus always to tyrants, or something), and called it free speech.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 07:10 PM (Eng1Z)

281 We have some nifty weapons to stop power distribution, for example.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:08 PM (u82oZ)

Or stop their ability to distribute refined fuel.

Iran has, what, two oil refineries?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 07:10 PM (vm8sq)

282 Surge! That's the one. S not C

Thought it was "Charge" or something like that.

Posted by: Way too excited about recalling a soda name at June 17, 2025 07:11 PM (TbWk/)

283 NaCly, I am more concerned about a nuke in a sub.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:11 PM (DLqye)

284 If it was mentioned I missed it, but there is a campaign brewing to get Mike Lee ousted for his comments on X about the man that assassinated the MN congresspeople. It's unbecoming and disgraceful and beneath his job to make light of their deaths, apparently. All my liberal friends are spitting mad about it.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 07:10 PM (Eng1Z)

Their party assassinated those people! They have nerve to claim sympathy because of the people they murdered.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:11 PM (8avO+)

285 >>> Mtn Dew was always pretty goo the first couple slugs then I had a hard time finishing it. Like Mello Yello (is that even made any more?).

They were smart, they made flavors other than the classic nuclear neon green, which I don't like. Some of those are really good. They always do a mystery flavor around halloween and I usually like it.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (Eng1Z)

286 I don't understand the terms "celebrity" or "star" any longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 07:08 PM (e7kz6)

It's from the Old Angeleno for "someone who a small group of other someones needs a really huge group of totally other someones to at least pretend to really like".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (BcT2b)

287 Cops deal with the worst of the worse in 90% of their interactions with the public. ( excluding traffic cops).

I don't like the shitty attitude some of them have but I understand. I definitely couldn't do their job.

I barely could do my job as an insurance claims manager. Made me distrustful and cynical.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (VofaG)

288
Okay you can't apply for citizenship on expiration of your visa but you can apply for a green card right?

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 07:02 PM (VofaG)

I think you can only apply for an extension of your visa, depending on what type was issued. I don't think there is an extension on the B1/B2 visa, which is visitor/temp business. For the others, they tend to be longer term in the first place, with an expectation of extensions for a specified number of times. The green card, or resident alien card is the first step to becoming a naturalized citizen. Originally, to apply for one you had to return to your nation of birth and wait for an immigrant visa appointment with the US embassy there, but I think that regulation has been ignored for decades.

Posted by: moki at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (wLjpr)

289 NaCly, I am more concerned about a nuke in a sub.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:11 PM (DLqye)

Iran's subs can't sail anywhere strategic, or fire anything if they could.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (8avO+)

290 Cow Demon

One working refinery left. Have to see what the IAF does after the missiles strike.

No Iranian refined oil to export hurts China a lot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (u82oZ)

291 Sure!!! Screw the taxpayers!!!!

AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 4m
BREAKING: U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem, Israel has been closed from Wednesday through Friday.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:13 PM (2yoRf)

292 Then totally debadged them... only 1 black bowtie on the grill of the dark grey truck right now.
Posted by: Romeo13

I went to the same church as an elderly couple who bought a new Dodge Demon in 1972. They wouldn't take delivery until the dealer removed the DEMON lettering and the little demon decals.

Posted by: Duster Clone at June 17, 2025 07:13 PM (G5+As)

293 Getting arrested for acting like an above-the-law dumbass is the new Tide Pods for Democrat pols.

Posted by: The Mantastic Tor at June 17, 2025 07:14 PM (dwzrA)

294 Celebrity chef & Food Network Star Anne Burrell dead at 55

Was she the fat one that looked like a Bull Dyke or was it the other fat one that looked like a Bull Dyke?

Posted by: So Confusing at June 17, 2025 07:14 PM (R/m4+)

295 It'll be big and heavy. They have to move it, mount it on a rocket, and successfully launch it; all without blowing themselves up.
Also doing it unobserved by satellite and who knows what else.

If their bomb was complete we would have blown it up.
Trump is certain that they will not have one.
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Whether it's militarily useful (yet) is an open question. Given the way the war is going, I think the play would be to test it where ever they can (i.e. in or under their own territory), claim to be part of the nuclear club and expect Israel and US to back down.

I don't think there's any chance either does, I just think that's the thing that can be done quickly.

The problem is, we've been kicking this can down the road for twenty years, and the odds keep improving that we waited too long.

If instead they put it on a missile, even if it doesn't work, whoever's on the receiving end has a huge mess, radiological and psychological, on their hands.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 07:14 PM (Dnobf)

296 Ben Had

A nuke has to be below a certain size to even be in a sub. Miniaturization of atomic weapons is very difficult. Not too worried.

In a cargo container is a better worry, and there are detectors looking for that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:15 PM (u82oZ)

297 Posted by: moki at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (wLjpr)

Thanks

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 07:15 PM (VofaG)

298 Sure!!! Screw the taxpayers!!!!

AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 4m
BREAKING: U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem, Israel has been closed from Wednesday through Friday.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:13 PM (2yoRf)

Thursday is Juneteenth. People have to do all their shopping and decorating for the holiday.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 07:15 PM (dGCAG)

299 And just like that another wing hailing Obama's fragile ego in his Big Ol' Chicago Bath House Is no longer necessary. He is running out of legacy "achievements."

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 07:15 PM (NXz8h)

300 I wanted to be a chef but I didn't have enough tats.

Posted by: Syop me if you've heard this one at June 17, 2025 07:16 PM (fV+MH)

301 Was she the fat one that looked like a Bull Dyke or was it the other fat one that looked like a Bull Dyke?
Posted by: So Confusing at June 17, 2025 07:14 PM (R/m4+)

So you're saying she didn't die from a vegetable overdose.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 07:16 PM (dGCAG)

302 If instead they put it on a missile, even if it doesn't work, whoever's on the receiving end has a huge mess, radiological and psychological, on their hands.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 07:14 PM (Dnobf)

Its pretty unlikely that they have a missile that can fit a nuke on them. That is a pretty large payload for something they haven't even tested.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:16 PM (8avO+)

303 Iran's subs can't sail anywhere strategic, or fire anything if they could.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (8avO+)

They don't need to fire anything.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 07:17 PM (zZu0s)

304 {{{ moki }}}

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:17 PM (u82oZ)

305 Too many carbs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:17 PM (P9gC0)

306 Was she the fat one that looked like a Bull Dyke or was it the other fat one that looked like a Bull Dyke?
Posted by: So Confusing at June 17, 2025 07:14 PM (R/m4+)

No, no. You're thinking of Guy Fieri.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 07:17 PM (0eaVi)

307 I barely could do my job as an insurance claims manager. Made me distrustful and cynical.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM

Dude. You could have called me. I would have been happy to inform you that you were far too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 07:17 PM (0sNs1)

308
Thanks

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 07:15 PM (VofaG)

Welcome, although its been a few years since I was in the consul business. Things have changed dramatically since then.

Posted by: moki at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (wLjpr)

309 >>> Their party assassinated those people! They have nerve to claim sympathy because of the people they murdered.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:11 PM (8avO+)

I know! Lee had a pic of the assassin in that creepy latex mask, captioned "Nightmare on Waltz Street."

He's insinuating that it was partly Waltz's fault that they got killed. Well, he's not wrong, and he cleverly tied the two together using pop culture. Conservatives are not allowed to be timely and clever.

I'm trying to remember how the press and the politicians treated Rand Paul after he got beat up. I'm pretty sure they mocked him.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (Eng1Z)

310 Aetius451AD

Not to worry. We have assets that can find them, and they are looking.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (u82oZ)

311 Tattoos are expensive as hell. I don't get how anybody can afford these full body tapestries they got. Especially line cooks and struggling musicians.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (BcT2b)

312 No Iranian refined oil to export hurts China a lot.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (u82oZ)

The PRC can’t refine oil?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (vm8sq)

313 BREAKING: U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem, Israel has been closed from Wednesday through Friday.
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They got Juneteenth off?

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (Dnobf)

314 Iran's subs can't sail anywhere strategic, or fire anything if they could.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (8avO+)

They don't need to fire anything.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 07:17 PM (zZu0s)

A 17000 mile cruise to sail into NY harbor and suicide?

LOL.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:19 PM (8avO+)

315 Is it Giada that makes the olive wood implements?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:19 PM (P9gC0)

316 AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 4m
BREAKING: U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem, Israel has been closed from Wednesday through Friday.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:13 PM

DURING PRIDE MONTH??????!???!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 07:19 PM (0sNs1)

317 Welcome, although its been a few years since I was in the consul business. Things have changed dramatically since then.
Posted by: moki at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (wLjpr)

Being in the consul business usually doesn't end well.

Posted by: J. Caesar, Consul at June 17, 2025 07:19 PM (0eaVi)

318 With full pay probably!!!!

Faytuks News @Faytuks 20m
The US Embassy in Jerusalem will be closed tomorrow through Friday due to the security situation, according to the US State Department.

The Consular Section in Tel Aviv will also be closed.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:20 PM (2yoRf)

319 NaCly, I am more concerned about a nuke in a sub.
Posted by: Ben Had
......

I'm more concerned about that Supreme Burrito I had for lunch.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 07:20 PM (v0R5T)

320 NaCly, does the term 'suitcase nuke' ring any bells?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:20 PM (DLqye)

321 Haha.

Iran's new military boss, who replaced the last guy who was killed by Israel has also been killed.

Guessing he didn't even have time to fill out his W-4.

Next up!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:20 PM (A5bjg)

322 Tattoos are expensive as hell. I don't get how anybody can afford these full body tapestries they got. Especially line cooks and struggling musicians.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (BcT2b)

They likely get a lot when there is a slump in the tat shop they hang out at. Or the tat dude needs practice.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:20 PM (8avO+)

323 Being in the consul business usually doesn't end well.
Posted by: J. Caesar, Consul at June 17, 2025 07:19 PM (0eaVi)

You're telling me.

Posted by: Bibilus at June 17, 2025 07:20 PM (zZu0s)

324 Hey NaCly!!! Enjoy your takes on the current situation!!

I had a friend at the US Embassy (then it was tel aviv) during Desert Storm. They were being pummeled by scuds, so had to go down to the bunker in the basement of the embassy, complete with gas masks. One guy brought his labrador, who had nervous gas. The folks could smell it through the gas masks, and one by one left the bunker. My friend said he'd rather take his chances with the scuds.

Posted by: moki at June 17, 2025 07:21 PM (wLjpr)

325 NaCly, does the term 'suitcase nuke' ring any bells?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:20 PM (DLqye)

Even our first nuke wasn't a suitcase nuke. Irans certainly wont.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:21 PM (8avO+)

326 Is it Giada that makes the olive wood implements?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 07:19 PM (P9gC0)

Around these parts, Giada is well known for making wood.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 07:21 PM (0eaVi)

327 Ben Had

If the Iranians got one from the Soviet Union, they would have already used it on Israel.

I regard this as unlikely.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:21 PM (u82oZ)

328 321 Haha.

Iran's new military boss, who replaced the last guy who was killed by Israel has also been killed.

Guessing he didn't even have time to fill out his W-4.

Next up!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 07:20 PM (A5bjg

Tough first week...

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 07:21 PM (jvJvP)

329 287 Cops deal with the worst of the worse in 90% of their interactions with the public. ( excluding traffic cops).

I don't like the shitty attitude some of them have but I understand. I definitely couldn't do their job.

I barely could do my job as an insurance claims manager. Made me distrustful and cynical.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 07:12 PM (VofaG)

Traffic stops are somewhere around 60% of police-initiated interaction with the public. They could be MUCH better allocated. And they do see bad things in certain urban areas especially but I would wager most of them don't. So I don't buy the "they see the worst of the worst of humanity" pass for abusing their power or railroading people.

Posted by: Just not buying it at June 17, 2025 07:21 PM (TbWk/)

330 We know exactly where the so-called “Supreme Leader” is hiding. He is an easy targe, but is safe there – We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now.

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Guantanamo is lovely this time of year.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 07:22 PM (L/fGl)

331 A 17000 mile cruise to sail into NY harbor and suicide?

LOL.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:19 PM (8avO+)

Heh.

Posted by: Marko Ramius at June 17, 2025 07:22 PM (PiwSw)

332 NaCly, does the term 'suitcase nuke' ring any bells?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:20 PM (DLqye)

If you see one marked Iranian Tourister, run.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 07:22 PM (0eaVi)

333 Genocide with civilian warnings...

Faytuks News @Faytuks 29m
IDF issues evacuation warning for an area in Tehran, saying that strikes will commence in the coming hours.
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[Leaflets in Arabic.]

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:22 PM (2yoRf)

334 299 And just like that another wing hailing Obama's fragile ego in his Big Ol' Chicago Bath House Is no longer necessary. He is running out of legacy "achievements."
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram

Just who the heck is ever going to go there? And what do you think the weekly attendance is like at the Clinton Singlewide Lieberry?

Posted by: Little Leary at June 17, 2025 07:22 PM (G5+As)

335 Congrats to those agents showing restraint. I'd be turning that comptroller dude's face into roast beef.

Posted by: It puts the lotion... at June 17, 2025 07:23 PM (AN+ve)

336 Nood

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 17, 2025 07:23 PM (GYt5+)

337 Tattoos are expensive as hell. I don't get how anybody can afford these full body tapestries they got. Especially line cooks and struggling musicians.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (BcT2b)

They get them discounts with their dealers.

Posted by: Especially the line cooks. at June 17, 2025 07:23 PM (TbWk/)

338 moki

It's just basic military strategy. Nothing exotic.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:23 PM (u82oZ)

339 He's insinuating that it was partly Waltz's fault that they got killed. Well, he's not wrong, and he cleverly tied the two together using pop culture. Conservatives are not allowed to be timely and clever.

I'm trying to remember how the press and the politicians treated Rand Paul after he got beat up. I'm pretty sure they mocked him.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (Eng1Z)

He spent a month telling their assassins they have to be meaner. And those that were shot were turncoats who voted with the Republicans.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 07:23 PM (8avO+)

340 Breaking911 @Breaking911 1h
R.I.P. — Celebrity chef & Food Network Star Anne Burrell dead at 55, cause unknown
Posted by: andycanuck at
.....

probably forgot to screw on the mayonnaise lid tight

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 07:23 PM (v0R5T)

341 Anonosaurus Wrecks

Don't kill the stupid leaders. Only the smart and dangerous ones.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:25 PM (u82oZ)

342 NaCly, does the term 'suitcase nuke' ring any bells?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:20 PM

It's a long way to ~~Tipperary~~ miniaturization.
It's a long way to go

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (0sNs1)

343 Tattoos are expensive as hell. I don't get how anybody can afford these full body tapestries they got. Especially line cooks and struggling musicians.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 07:18 PM (BcT2b)

Pro Tip: The more tatts, the less talent.

The guy who says but, but my Mom in 3...2...1...

Posted by: The Truth at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (R/m4+)

344
[Leaflets in Arabic.]
Posted by: andycanuck

===============

Probably Farsi. Same alphabet with a few variations.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 07:26 PM (wbZPZ)

345 moki

Their carbon filters needed to be replaced. Not going away from a SBD dog fart during a Scud attack.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:27 PM (u82oZ)

346 OSINTdefender @sentdefender 2h
Reza Pahlavi, Crown Prince of Iran and son of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi of Iran, who was deposed from power in 1979, released a message earlier today to the People of Iran, calling for an uprising against the Islamic Regime, stating, “the Islamic Republic has come to an end and is falling — Now is the time to stand up. The time to take Iran back. All of us together — Do not be preoccupied about the day after the fall of the Islamic Republic. Iran will not enter a period civil war or Instability, we have a plan for Iran’s future.”

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:28 PM (2yoRf)

347 Probably Farsi. Same alphabet with a few variations.
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I sit corrected.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (2yoRf)

348 Tattoos are expensive as hell.

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The human robot war is over. We lost.

Celebrity Tattoo Artist Bang Bang Introduces the Newest Technology in Art: A Robot That Can Do Your Ink (Exclusive)

https://shorturl.at/Asp2S

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (L/fGl)

349 Their carbon filters needed to be replaced. Not going away from a SBD dog fart during a Scud attack.
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pull my paw

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 07:30 PM (2yoRf)

350 Especially when it's not your car and it's still on their lot.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 07:06 PM (hdoQS)
You almost made me choke on a bite of chocolate cheesecake.

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 07:34 PM (LHPAg)

351
Just because you or I have never heard of 97% of those flavors doesn't mean I made it up.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 06:57 PM (0sNs1)

Just leave my Code Red alone or I'll sic Wichita on you.

She's meaner than Tallahassee.

Posted by: Columbus at June 17, 2025 07:35 PM (y9nCu)

352 Traffic stops are somewhere around 60% of police-initiated interaction with the public. They could be MUCH better allocated. And they do see bad things in certain urban areas especially but I would wager most of them don't. So I don't buy the "they see the worst of the worst of humanity" pass for abusing their power or railroading people.
Posted by: Just not buying it at June 17, 2025 07:21 PM (TbWk/)

Houston PD until recently had a policy where each of their cops were REQUIRED to conduct at minimum one traffic stop a day.

I don’t buy that either. If only because we are constantly assured that the cops are the ultimate gold standard of professionalism.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 07:36 PM (vm8sq)

353
Celebrity Tattoo Artist Bang Bang Introduces the Newest Technology in Art: A Robot That Can Do Your Ink (Exclusive)

https://shorturl.at/Asp2S
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 07:29 PM (L/fGl)

Coding for doing the line drawing of a 3/4 inch porpoise for drunken trust-fund sorority girls ankles can't be TOO difficult.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 07:40 PM (y9nCu)

354 Okay you can't apply for citizenship on expiration of your visa but you can apply for a green card right?
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 07:02 PM (VofaG)

Yeah and that’s the part that takes 17 years. And Im pretty sure you have to do it while outside of the country. Otherwise everyone would get a tourist visa and never leave while waiting in their green card.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 07:45 PM (/CkK4)

Is This Something?

Most of this will not be something.

I know what some of you are thinking: Hollywood may be so devoid of ideas that they're remaking every movie from the 80s and nineties, but there's no way they're now remaking "classics" from the early 2000s, and even if they are, they certainly won't be remaking I Know What You Did Last Summer, for the love of everything holy.

Well, guess what? You're wrong again. You're a black belt in Being Wrong About Everything.

Fox is determined to milk the Alien franchise, which started the same year as the Iranian revolution, forever. They now have a TV show about aliens coming to earth.

I don't get this. Yes, I liked Alien and I loved Aliens. But seriously, it's a limited concept. You can't just keep making movies and tv-shows and prequels about the same limited concept.

Or I guess you can. But I don't get it. I have no further questions about the Terminator, Alien, or Predator universes. Or the Robocop universe. I have enjoyed their early entries. I've loved many of them. But we need to move on. There is no more juice in these well-squeezed fruits.

Oh, and it turns out there is another Predator movie coming.

Great, Mr. Fabulous, the self-described "fifty-year-old Bougie Bitch" Pedro Pascal, is in yet another movie. It's about a brave and noble sheriff fighting disinformation and disobedience as he attempts to enforce covid lockdowns. There's a moment of someone watching a podcast on the internet, so you know that's about Dangerous and Divisive Medical Misinformation. The end of the clip shows someone firing a heavy machine gun so that's gotta be Radicalized Far-Right Extremists Incited Into Violence.

Now, I'm making a lot of assumptions. It could be that the movie is a more thoughtful look at the covid wars.

But I doubt it.

Nerdrotic says he has a Marvel source who says the new "Ironheart" Disney TV show is the worst thing that Marvel has ever done, and that includes their disastrous "Echo" show and "Secret Invasion" and "She-Hulk."

It's being dropped with three episodes on one night so that the show is finished and forgotten as soon as possible. They did something similar with Echo, though in that case they dropped all five episodes in one night. Like one of those poops where everything goes in one smooth uninterrupted motion and you can't even believe how efficient and accomplished you are at pooping.

The Superman movie continues to look over-stuffed with characters and plots but it also looks like it might be light and fun, like a comic book for kids.

Which is A-OK with me.

Let me get this off my chest:

I'm sick and tired of NERDS!!! demanding that superhero movies or any other juvenile fare be "dark" and "grim and gritty" and "realistic" and hyperviolent and filled with cursing.

This type of entertainment is -- or used to be, and should be -- kid-friendly.

I think a lot of NERDS!!! are a little embarrassed that they like entertainment which is made for kids or made to at least be kid-friendly because that would suggest they're immature. So they want these entertainments to be made more "adult," but by "adult," of course they don't mean thoughtful, contemplative, and nuanced. No, they mean they want to see Superman rip people's heads from their bodies and use his laser vision to shoot holes through people's chests.

And that he should say "f*ck" a lot.

I have to admit that when I was younger -- like, teens and early twenties -- I had the same kind of idea. That this kind of movie would be Even Betterer if it were "hardcore."

But as I've gotten older, and have approached, with increasing slowness, age 29, I've come to understand that I don't have to run away from my kid-self, or my teenaged self. My kid-self was right about a lot of things, and my teenaged self was too.

I don't need these kind of kid-friendly entertainments to be "aged up" just to validate me, so I don't feel like a stupid baby for going to see a Batman movie. It's perfectly fine for an adult to enjoy an entertainment whose primary audience is younger people and kids. Every adult, even one approaching age 29, still has his 5-year old self inside him, and his 13-year-old self, and his 18-year-old self.

Plus, a lot of children's entertainment can be pretty good. Disney cartoons from a bygone age often portrayed death in powerful and even traumatic way. Certainly Bambi portrays death much more realistically -- in that it has consequences -- than popcorn movies for "adults" that feature hundreds of people being killed with no one ever wondering if the dead enemies' wives and children will be looked after.

Kid-friendly entertainment doesn't have to be childish, either. The original Superman was kid-friendly, but it was very well done. The original Star Wars films as well. (Bit of trivia: They filmed the severed arm in the cantina sequence for the sole purpose of getting a PG rating rather than the G rating they would have gotten without it -- they felt that teenagers would not see a G-rated film because teenagers are always afraid to be mistaken for kids or little babies.)

The Indian Jones films are all basically kid-friendly, except for that one part in every Indiana Jones movie where someone gets his head chopped up by a propeller or something. Okay, maybe not for kids exactly, but a dad can watch that with his 12-year-old.

"Kid-friendly" doesn't mean "childish." You can avoid all the things that flag a movie as R-rated while also avoiding the stuff that makes a movie seem childish -- cornball kid humor, simple-minded plots, cartoony "bouncy" background music, unrealistic characters, etc. You can make a movie that avoids the tropes of actual child fare and presents semi-plausible characters with semi-realistic adult psychologies.

What Hollywood is doing is making very, very dumb movies with child-levels of nuance but throwing in R-rated violence to age it up.

I don't know if Superman will be any good. I kind of doubt it. I don't think I'll wind up seeing it.

But I do like the idea of making superhero movies and fantasy action movies with a younger audience in mind. I have fond memories of watching James Bond movies with my dad. Fathers need movies they can share with their kids. It can't all be about reassuring 25-year-old NERDS!!! that they're totally not babies because look, Superman just snapped this guy's neck. So hardcore!

(I think James Bond books are basically boy's adventure fiction too, except the boy in question "borrowed" his dad's credit card to subscribe to Playboy.)

I just don't get the idea that these Male Power Fantasy movies have to be "dark" and "mature." Having a Space Alien Cop snap the neck of a Space Alien Bad Guy isn't "mature." It's still children's entertainment with a veneer of graphic violence to seem mature.

And don't get me wrong-- I like graphic violence, too. But I don't think Batman movies should look like the last twenty minutes of Rambo. That kind of movie should be reserved for 17 year olds, or 15 year olds who borrow their older brother's ID.

Eh. I don't love Seth McFarlane but the director is Akiva Shaeffer or whoever The Other Guy from Lonely Island is.

Mel Brooks announces "Spaceballs 2" coming in 2027.

The teaser mocks Hollywood's sequel, prequel, reboot and side-quel mania.

First teaser for ‘SPACEBALLS 2’

In theaters in 2027. pic.twitter.com/GEnLzey2BQ
— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) June 12, 2025

DiscussingFilm
@DiscussingFilm
Rick Moranis will be coming out of retirement to reprise his role as Dark Helmet in
'SPACEBALLS 2'
Bill Pullman will also return...

Thanks to @rdbrewer4.

Posted by: Ace at 05:00 PM

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HIya

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:00 PM (wbZPZ)

2 New

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at June 17, 2025 05:01 PM (cw38v)

3 First?

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at June 17, 2025 05:01 PM (naiw2)

4 (I think James Bond books are basically boy's adventure fiction too, except the boy in question "borrowed" his dad's credit card to subscribe to Playboy.)

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So much of genre fiction is just power fantasy.

And I have no problem with that.

"I wish I could fly and shoot lasers from my eyes and defeat the alien army." or "I wish I was a secret agent who was great with guns and could bed any woman."

It's fine. It has its place. It is kind of childish, but most people go to the movies for escapism, not a look at the human condition. The two can marry, but ultimately...people like escapism.

It just changes form over the decades.

MGM musicals were huge for a very long time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 05:02 PM (GBKbO)

5 . It's about a brave and noble sheriff fighting disinformation and disobedience as he attempts to enforce covid lockdowns.
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It's about a certain narrative that must not be forgotten.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 05:03 PM (Q4IgG)

6 >>>I know what some of you are thinking: Hollywood may be so devoid of ideas that they're remaking every movie from the 80s and nineties, but there's no way they're now remaking "classics" from the early 2000s, and even if they are, they certainly won't be remaking I Know What You Did Last Summer, for the love of everything holy.

They already remade Fantastic Four, even before the upcoming Pedro Pascal remake-remake. I for one was not thinking that at all.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 17, 2025 05:03 PM (jGGMD)

7 Alien: Romulus was basically the same movie as Alien, with some implausible circumstances bolted on to it.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 05:03 PM (Dv3i1)

8 Former CNN host Jim Acosta claimed on Tuesday that farmers are being “led astray” and voting for “far-right” candidates in U.S. elections.

Acosta stated during a Center For American Progress discussion that the “far-right” has figured out how to “infiltrate the heartland” and get farmers to side with the political right. While name dropping the late conservative host Rush Limbaugh, Acosta argued that many Americans are not getting their information from reliable news.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (RHGPo)

9 Eh. I don't love Seth McFarlane but the director is Akiva Shaeffer or whoever The Other Guy from Lonely Island is.

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"Revenge is awesome."

I'm kind of looking forward to it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (GBKbO)

10 First!

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (nQcpu)

11 I have to disagree. I cared a lot about Murphy and would like to know what his ultimate fate was. Did he reconcile with his family, as best he could? Did he live longer than his children, being bound to carry out his duty until.... the stars burned out?

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (H0Gk5)

12
I want Ace to incorporate the phrase Free-Ballin' more in his posts.

For instance: Trump is Free-Ballin' policy based on past promises, Irking both Democrats & Republicans

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (h0F3f)

13 >>>"Revenge is awesome."

I was trying to remember the one bit I found funny. that was it.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:05 PM (KRtlO)

14 Couldn't you do a nice alien--she joins a Mom's group and drinks wine?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:05 PM (kTd/k)

15
Balls Deep
&
Free Balling

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 05:05 PM (h0F3f)

16 >>>I have to disagree. I cared a lot about Murphy and would like to know what his ultimate fate was. Did he reconcile with his family, as best he could? Did he live longer than his children, being bound to carry out his duty until.... the stars burned out?

okay but that would be a genre-shift into a sci-fi drama. Which might be interesting. But it wouldn't be the same Robocop movie all over again.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:05 PM (KRtlO)

17 I don't like dark. I like happy endings !

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 05:06 PM (nQcpu)

18 .people like escapism."

"Hey, call the bard over here and sing more of Uhtred"

It's not new.

Posted by: man at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (tubbA)

19 It's being dropped with three episodes on one night so that the show is finished and forgotten as soon as possible. They did something similar with Echo, though in that case they dropped all five episodes in one night. Like one of those poops where everything goes in one smooth uninterrupted motion and you can't even believe how efficient and accomplished you are at pooping.

Damn, I'm giving up and taking up farming. I can't match that.

Posted by: William Shakespeare at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (s8j++)

20 Ace I like your effort here to define what makes a movie good.. and that’s the word that counts for all of us.. Good.. the concept of Good in movies has been lost by the makers.. why is that the case??

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (PCK5/)

21 the one thing I liked in Robocop 2 was his... light stalking of his wife and child.

And the wife complained and told the cops to tell him to stop driving down their street.

Tough stuff, but realistic. So sad for Murphy.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (KRtlO)

22 I have sometimes wondered about the fate of mooks who get slaughtered by the dozens (or hundreds) in some of these movies.

Don't they have friends? Family? People who care about them and might depend on them for support?

Won't someone think of the mooks?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (7fElN)

23 I'm sick and tired of NERDS!!!

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Uh oh.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (9JXSH)

24 Ace I like your effort here to define what makes a movie good.. and that’s the word that counts for all of us.. Good.. the concept of Good in movies has been lost by the makers.. why is that the case??
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (PCK5/)
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Because ***THE MESSAGE*** is far more important than a good story.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 05:08 PM (7fElN)

25 I can't wait for Fast & Furious 27: This time, we're done.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:08 PM (jc0TO)

26
Alien Earth appears to have nothing new in it, down to a closeup of someone opening their eyes as another "species" or in another reality (cf. Twilight and Vanilla Sky at a minimum). The same blue-shifted palette and pasty principals are here from The Matrix, The Batman, a couple of movies about medieval times, OH and someone is going to "transition" to a synthetic human. ffs where HAVEN'T I seen that in sci-fi? I could go on.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:09 PM (wbZPZ)

27 I think a Hallmark Robocop would be good.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:09 PM (kTd/k)

28 I'm sick and tired of NERDS!!!

-
Uh oh.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (9JXSH)
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So ace was in the Alpha Beta fraternity in college?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 05:09 PM (7fElN)

29 Tough stuff, but realistic. So sad for Murphy.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM

You would think a guy with a robo-cock could get all the action he wanted.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:09 PM (jc0TO)

30 I guess Liam was serious about doing improvisational comedy.

- Ricky Gervais

Posted by: WisRich at June 17, 2025 05:10 PM (G0vdT)

31 Parents did not know how far their educationdollar went 12 cents at a time.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 17, 2025 05:10 PM (QSrLX)

32 You can see the desire for silly things to be taken seriously really clearly in a few franchises, and a great example is Godzilla.

Went really silly through the 60s. Came back in the 80s and suddenly, super dark a super serious?

I suspect the people who brought it back just really wanted that original hit of seriousness from the first one. It gave their love of silly movies about a man in a rubber suit stomping on miniatures an aura of importance.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 17, 2025 05:10 PM (GBKbO)

33 I can't wait for Fast & Furious 27: This time, we're done.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:08 PM (jc0TO)
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Cruising around The Villages in Florida in souped-up golf carts.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM (7fElN)

34 I can't wait for Fast & Furious 27: This time, we're done.

I'm waiting for Fast and Furious 28: I've lost the tennis balls on my walker.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM (s8j++)

35 Damn, I'm giving up and taking up farming. I can't match that."

Sorry dude, but Clarkson's already got that gig.

Posted by: man at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM (tubbA)

36 Hollywood is doing stupid things and will continue to suffer pain and humiliation at the box office?

Uh... good?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM (O7YUW)

37 I liked Godzilla zero or whatever it was. I hope there is a .5.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM (jc0TO)

38 25 I can't wait for Fast & Furious 27: This time, we're done.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:08 PM (jc0TO)

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The end credits for 22 Jump Street.

One of the best pieces of Hollywood satire out there.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM (GBKbO)

39 >>>20 Ace I like your effort here to define what makes a movie good.. and that’s the word that counts for all of us.. Good.. the concept of Good in movies has been lost by the makers.. why is that the case??

That's a good topic. I saw Red Letter Media review The Suicide Squad, the second one, the good one. That fat guy pointed out that it felt more like a superhero movie than Justice League, because the characters, although villains, were actually acting heroically.

They also got along with each other, mostly. One thing I HATE in movies is contrived, pointless bickering between characters. I don't like this in real life, why would I want to see a movie featuring a lot of this?

Justice League had the characters bickering pointlessly just because page 4 of every screenwriter's book says "movies must have conflict."

Well, yes, they must have conflict *that actually matters.* In a Few Good Men, the conflict between Demi Moore and Tom Cruise over whether to take the plea deal or bring a losing case to court just to HOPE for a good outcome mattered. There was stakes there.

Bruce Wayne baiting Wonder Woman about having hidden herself away was just unwelcomed padding.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM (KRtlO)

40 Wife and I watched "The Last Rodeo " a couple of weeks ago. A very nice family movie about a former rodeo champion having to come out of retirement to pay for his grandson's surgery.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM (cw38v)

41 I just don't get the idea that these Male Power Fantasy movies have to be "dark" and "mature." Having a Space Alien Cop snap the neck of a Space Alien Bad Guy isn't "mature."

For the record this sort of thing was perfected in 1990's I Come in Peace.

Space Alien Bad Guy: I come in peace
Human working with Space Alien Cop Dolph Lundgren: You go in pieces

Link: https://tinyurl.com/4zweak3b

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 05:12 PM (t0Rmr)

42 I liked Godzilla zero or whatever it was. I hope there is a .5.

I really enjoyed the glimpse into postwar Tokyo. The scenes of Godzilla smashing things up have been done a zillion times.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 05:12 PM (s8j++)

43 In the theatrical release of Aliens that I saw, Ripley learned after her 57-year hibernation that the daughter she'd left behind had aged and died. I've never seen this vital bit of character motivation in any subsequent version I've seen. That's mostly the worst chop I've ever seen. Mostly.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 05:12 PM (wzAuc)

44 >>>33 I can't wait for Fast & Furious 27: This time, we're done.

It's about Family.

Posted by: Dom Terreto at June 17, 2025 05:12 PM (KRtlO)

45 21 the one thing I liked in Robocop 2 was his... light stalking of his wife and child.

And the wife complained and told the cops to tell him to stop driving down their street.

Tough stuff, but realistic. So sad for Murphy.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (KRtlO)

___________

The monologue where he lies to his wife and tells her he isn't Murphy but just an empty shell that was a tribute to her dead husband. Yeah, I liked the first two Robocop movies.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 17, 2025 05:13 PM (H0Gk5)

46 I saw the trailer for F1 when I took the grandson to How to Train Your Dragon. It looks exciting and all but I have a hard time believing that there's an F1 driver as old as Brad Pitt. Racing fans probably could verify that for me.

Posted by: Tuna at June 17, 2025 05:13 PM (lJ0H4)

47 DiscussingFilm
@DiscussingFilm
Rick Moranis will be coming out of retirement to reprise his role as Dark Helmet in
'SPACEBALLS 2'

Hollywood must be tasked with laundering fantastic sums of money.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 05:13 PM (emDE2)

48 Acosta stated during a Center For American Progress discussion that the “far-right” has figured out how to “infiltrate the heartland” and get farmers to side with the political right. While name dropping the late conservative host Rush Limbaugh, Acosta argued that many Americans are not getting their information from reliable news.
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (RHGPo)

Acosta wouldn't know a reliable source if it bit him on his ass. Which it wouldn't, because it doesn't want to contract ptomaine.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 17, 2025 05:13 PM (a4NoL)

49 14 Couldn't you do a nice alien--she joins a Mom's group and drinks wine?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:05 PM (kTd/k)

You weren't talking about this by any chance?

https://youtu.be/VmTCzJXLUCg

Posted by: biteme at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (xWS9V)

50 > they certainly won't be remaking I Know What You Did Last Summer

In memory of that silly, but occasionally fun movie, here's Jennifer Love Hewitt's big dramatic moment:
youtube.com/watch?v=TNPR9U5MGwg&t=145s

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (lIio7)

51 22 I have sometimes wondered about the fate of mooks who get slaughtered by the dozens (or hundreds) in some of these movies.

Don't they have friends? Family? People who care about them and might depend on them for support?

Won't someone think of the mooks?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (7fElN)

Yep. Watching buildings get run through and collapsed like they are empty
Except for that one that had the king of wakanda in it. Then it mattered that the building was destroyed. Anyone else in the building? Don't know. They weren't important.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (OA79/)

52 --Every adult, even one approaching age 29, still has his 5-year old self inside him, and his 13-year-old self, and his 18-year-old self.--

Coming soon to a bookstore near you, The Man Inside Me, by AoSHQ.

Posted by: A Concerned Citizen at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (OAxw3)

53 46 I saw the trailer for F1 when I took the grandson to How to Train Your Dragon. It looks exciting and all but I have a hard time believing that there's an F1 driver as old as Brad Pitt. Racing fans probably could verify that for me.
Posted by: Tuna at June 17, 2025 05:13 PM

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Do you believe there are 60 year old fighter pilots?

Did it hamper your enjoyment of Top Gun Maverick?

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (GBKbO)

54 A Hallmark romance movie but filmed with a handheld camera, spooky lighting and jump scares but the same old plot.
And that reminds me of Count Floyd.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (kTd/k)

55
Whoever's task it was to compile that list for Spaceballs II had a fun job. I didn't laugh that much at the original, Brooks doesn't do that much for me, but mebbe I'll go see it for the principle of the thing.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (wbZPZ)

56 Space Balls 2 More Balls will be bigger and more full of Space Balls than the original Balls movie.

I hope they lampoon everything.

Shut up and take my money!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (A5bjg)

57 >>>Thanks to @rdbrewer4.

Need to put that guy back to work. The sidebar is kinda slow at times.

Posted by: No Name Today at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (vlXMQ)

58 >>>In the theatrical release of Aliens that I saw, Ripley learned after her 57-year hibernation that the daughter she'd left behind had aged and died. I've never seen this vital bit of character motivation in any subsequent version I've seen. That's mostly the worst chop I've ever seen. Mostly.

that was a good bit but I think the reasoning was: That existed mostly to provide a background for Ripley's extreme determination to save Newt. But they realized they don't really need to explain why Ripley wants to save an innocent little girl, so why include it?

They also cut the Hadley's Hope stuff in the beginning, because that was there to humanize Newt and to show how terrible it was that she lost her family. They reasoned, people will like Newt with or without backstory and also we don't need a 10-minute section of film to prove to the audience that a slaughter of people by aliens is bad.

They cut the automatic sentry guns because Cameron realized: It's robots versus insect aliens, who cares, what are the stakes? Whether the guns can preserve their ammo or not?

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (KRtlO)

59 They also got along with each other, mostly. One thing I HATE in movies is contrived, pointless bickering between characters. I don't like this in real life, why would I want to see a movie featuring a lot of this?

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM

If you are teamed up with Ryan Reynolds, you are going to bicker. I am pretty sure I would murder him in his sleep if we were on a mission together.

and don't give me that Oh, he'll regenerate crap. This is how you handle that:

https://youtu.be/mrndSo8Uelo

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (jc0TO)

60 I never heard of Echo or Ironheart and have no idea or interest. Probably fake and gay.

Btw, the aliens coming to earth is the one alien movie that people really wanted to see, but they never made it. They kept making the same movie in space, on a spaceship, over and over.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (GCyOY)

61 Fo you believe there are 60 year old fighter pilots?

Did it hamper your enjoyment of Top Gun Maverick?
Posted by: TJM's phone

That's a good point.

Posted by: Tuna at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (lJ0H4)

62 Now we need a sequel to Ice Pirates.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (A5bjg)

63
Fo you believe there are 60 year old fighter pilots?

Did it hamper your enjoyment of Top Gun Maverick?
Posted by: TJM's phone

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tbf, the whole idea was that he was called out of something like retirement.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (wbZPZ)

64 I don't get this. Yes, I liked Alien and I loved Aliens. But seriously, it's a limited concept. You can't just keep making movies and tv-shows and prequels about the same limited concept.
++++
We can and we will. The only limiting factor is shareholder credulity and our access to credit lines.

Posted by: Hollywood Studios at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (6bTRc)

65 "Kid friendly" movies on 8mm?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (Jhc5W)

66 You weren't talking about this by any chance?

https://youtu.be/VmTCzJXLUCg
Posted by: biteme at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (xWS9V)

By George that's it.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (kTd/k)

67 *Sighs* That 'Naked Gun' remake looks awful and is giving me Steve Martin as Inspector Clouseau vibes.

Oh and "Rock Out With Your Glock Out" was the tagline from 2010's 'Cop Out'.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (NHiEn)

68 I just don't get the idea that these Male Power Fantasy movies have to be "dark" and "mature." Having a Space Alien Cop snap the neck of a Space Alien Bad Guy isn't "mature."

MIB was a light, humorous bit of fun, but I always disliked the scene where a guy gets stuffed under a counter with a broken neck. It was gratuitous, and IMHO made the movie unsuitable for younger kids who might otherwise have enjoyed it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (s8j++)

69 >>> I didn't laugh that much at the original, Brooks doesn't do that much for me, but mebbe I'll go see it for the principle of the thing.

yup, me too, never got Spaceballs at all, and most of Mel Brooks' stuff is just dumb. I know that's not a popular opinion, and I know there are two big exceptions.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

70 I liked Godzilla zero or whatever it was. I hope there is a .5.

I really enjoyed the glimpse into postwar Tokyo. The scenes of Godzilla smashing things up have been done a zillion times.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 05:12 PM (s8j++)

Having the IJN heavy cruiser Takao take on Godzilla was fun. She did survive the war so it was believable

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (cw38v)

71 Great, Mr. Fabulous, the self-described "fifty-year-old Bougie Bitch" Pedro Pascal, is in yet another movie. It's about a brave and noble sheriff fighting disinformation and disobedience as he attempts to enforce covid lockdowns.
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Gag.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (6bTRc)

72 or three exceptions

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

73 "After 28 years, we asked the public what it wanted, but we made this movie anyway."

There's no stopping the schwarz.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (a4NoL)

74
Btw, the aliens coming to earth is the one alien movie that people really wanted to see, but they never made it. They kept making the same movie in space, on a spaceship, over and over.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

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tbf, it was all about being in space, where No One Can Hear You Scream.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (wbZPZ)

75 I think Slapshot could be redone.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (kTd/k)

76 yup, me too, never got Spaceballs at all, and most of Mel Brooks' stuff is just dumb. I know that's not a popular opinion, and I know there are two big exceptions.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (KRtlO

If you say Blazing Saddles is dumb, I'm leaving and never coming back until tomorrow.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (A5bjg)

77 50 > they certainly won't be remaking I Know What You Did Last Summer

In memory of that silly, but occasionally fun movie, here's Jennifer Love Hewitt's big dramatic moment:
youtube.com/watch?v=TNPR9U5MGwg&t=145s
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (lIio7)

Jennifer Love Hewitt… one of the cutest girls that God ever made..l

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (PCK5/)

78 Thanks, ace. Great post. Long overdue for a movie post but a-hole moviemakers aren't giving much to work with. (Wife asked me last week how come we haven't done a movie date night in over a year and I said cuz there's nothing but sh*t out. And 10 years-ish ago we did them almost monthly...

And having little kids who I show the classics to ('our' classics, e.g. Christopher Reeve Superman, Rudy, Goonies, Disney movies that were good, etc.; they like the Rocky movies more than me...), it really is sad that they don't have more stuff made for their generation that isn't just grooming propaganda. They love Top Gun: Maverick. We've got our hopes up for Superman. And they love Spaceballs (basic cable; still funny but kid friendly); I'm worried that trailer will be better than the movie, but hopefully that one comes out great... Anyway, I never liked Zack Snyder. 300 was artwork, but the dude ain't mainstream and his DC stuff was lame (though did like Ben Affleck as Batman). Superman more than any superhero should be family friendly (and pro-American). Hope it comes out that way

Posted by: bearski at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (Bhsk7)

79 We need more kid friendly entertainment like the "Twilight" franchise. Because nothing says kiddie entertainment like a minor teenager hooking up with a 100 year old vampire.

Posted by: Orson at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (dIske)

80 young Frankenstein is *chefs kiss*

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (A5bjg)

81 NERDS!

Posted by: Ogre at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (OA79/)

82 As a matter of fact, I AM pretty efficient and accomplished at pooping!

Posted by: Amber Heard at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (y/iut)

83 yup, me too, never got Spaceballs at all, and most of Mel Brooks' stuff is just dumb. I know that's not a popular opinion, and I know there are two big exceptions.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM

I might be the only person who really liked High Anxiety but it made me laugh out loud.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (jc0TO)

84 yup, me too, never got Spaceballs at all, and most of Mel Brooks' stuff is just dumb. I know that's not a popular opinion, and I know there are two big exceptions.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (KRtlO)

Most of it is just off-color dad jokes, but it beats most of what Hollywood has done for the past 28 years. Plus, it is good-natured, which is not the case for all of the "edgy" crap. Can't we just be entertained?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (a4NoL)

85 Now we need a sequel to Ice Pirates.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:16 PM (A5bjg)

I would accept a sequel to Krull at this point over all of the dreck that Hollywood puts out now.

Posted by: A Concerned Citizen at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (OAxw3)

86 I'm sick and tired of NERDS!!! demanding that superhero movies or any other juvenile fare be "dark" and "grim and gritty" and "realistic" and hyperviolent and filled with cursing.

This type of entertainment is -- or used to be, and should be -- kid-friendly.
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Usually. There are *some* characters and stories (like the "Watchmen") that were always "gritty" and not really for kids. There are also some characters and stories (like Wolverine) where you *can* credibly make them gritty and adult.

But there are many, many characters and stories - and "Superman" is at or near the top of the list - that *can't* credibly be made "gritty." It anathema to the core concept. It's necessarily destructive.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (6bTRc)

87 Hollywood needs to die, they are creatively bankrupt.

Yet another Jurassic Park movie coming out?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (BNLtx)

88 think Slapshot could be redone.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (kTd/k)

Basically Goon

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (MGB5H)

89 So ... it's a movie thread now?

wait ...

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (jc0TO)

90 want to contract ptomaine."

Lepetomane.

Posted by: man at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (tubbA)

91 If you want a "Justice League" you can actually enjoy, go watch the animated series, plus "Justice League Unlimited" that came out in the early 2000's. Some pretty enjoyable stories in there, and it still feels like a kid's comic just in TV format. Smart enough to be enjoyable by adults who just want to spend some time with the kids, too.

My eldest daughter (now an adult) endorses this message. She was a kid at the time this came out and she still enjoys these two series.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (O7YUW)

92 Jennifer Love Hewitt… one of the cutest girls that God ever made..l
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (PCK5/)

Those eyes on her. And I actually mean eyes.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (OA79/)

93 I'm thinking about re-reading the Stainless Steel Rat series and reliving my teen years. That's how much I GAF.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (ERYKL)

94 >>>If you are teamed up with Ryan Reynolds, you are going to bicker. I am pretty sure I would murder him in his sleep if we were on a mission together.

funny bickering is good. I don't like the fake bullshit "dramatic" bickering. Where people who are supposed to be mature adults, and even heroes, start slinging around petty insults like they're 13-year-olds with Oppositional Defiance Disorder.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (KRtlO)

95 Basically Goon
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (

Yeah I guess.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (kTd/k)

96 Space Balls 2 More Balls will be bigger and more full of Space Balls than the original Balls movie.

I hope they lampoon everything.

Shut up and take my money!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (A5bjg)

Three questions:

Will the Spaceballs ship still be crewed solely by the extended Asshole family?
Is Daphne Zuniga returning?
Did Lone Star change the Druidia shield combination from 12345?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (S/Y4j)

97 Yech. Another pulp-culture thread.

I don't give a damn about any current media offerings. My viewing habits these days are limited to TCM and MeTV, especially Svengoolie.

Not a criticism of you, Ace, it's your blog and you can do with you want with it. But I know basically nothing of popular culture after the second season of "House."

So I'll bow out until the Quick Hits or Cafe thread.

In the meantime, you can all get off my lawn. Ace excepted. He gets a special dispensation.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (77rzZ)

98 Roger Corman's Fantastic Four will remain the best movie adaptation.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (BNLtx)

99 It's a shame Candy and Rivers are morte.

Who is gonna play barf?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (A5bjg)

100 Plus, a lot of children's entertainment can be pretty good. Disney cartoons from a bygone age often portrayed death in powerful and even traumatic way. Certainly Bambi portrays death much more realistically -- in that it has consequences -- than popcorn movies for "adults" that feature hundreds of people being killed with no one ever wondering if the dead enemies' wives and children will be looked after.

Kid-friendly entertainment doesn't have to be childish, either. The original Superman was kid-friendly, but it was very well done. The original Star Wars films as well. (Bit of trivia: They filmed the severed arm in the cantina sequence for the sole purpose of getting a PG rating rather than the G rating they would have gotten without it -- they felt that teenagers would not see a G-rated film because teenagers are always afraid to be mistaken for kids or little babies.))
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One of the most contemptible thing modern media - from movies to TV to books to music - has done is assert that "it's for kids" or "it's for families" means "it can be shit and it doesn't matter because kids are stupid anyway."

Children's content needs to be fairly *simple* - not stupid and bad.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (6bTRc)

101 Can't we just be entertained?

Is that not why we are here?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (s8j++)

102 wait ..."

For what, Prometh....

whoops. Sorry.

Posted by: man at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (tubbA)

103 Hollywood is too lazy to come up with anything new.

Indy films are going to take more and more viewers away from the big filmmakers.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (W2Pud)

104 Btw, the aliens coming to earth is the one alien movie that people really wanted to see, but they never made it. They kept making the same movie in space, on a spaceship, over and over.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

Err, Aliens vs. Predators was set on earth and it sucked. Except for a few sequences. And Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem also, but was a insane disaster of a clusterf. Feh.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (mlg/3)

105 They cut the automatic sentry guns because Cameron realized: It's robots versus insect aliens, who cares, what are the stakes? Whether the guns can preserve their ammo or not?
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (KRtlO)
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I liked that scene and thought it should have been included. I thought it showed how determined the aliens were, how helpless the soldiers where when even auto mini-guns can’t stop them, and it was some nice effects shots for the time, I would have re-edited it, tho, so it’s less humans staring blankly at screens showing bullet countdowns.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 05:21 PM (GCyOY)

106 Oh, and it turns out there is another Predator movie coming.

Prey was surprisingly good.
So I will indulge them here.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 05:21 PM (UGyV5)

107 It's a shame Candy and Rivers are morte.

Who is gonna play barf?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM

How about that fat kid from Seinfeld?

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:21 PM (jc0TO)

108 >>Most of it is just off-color dad jokes, but it beats most of what Hollywood has done for the past 28 years. Plus, it is good-natured, which is not the case for all of the "edgy" crap. Can't we just be entertained?

I mean yeah, you can totally like him. I just have never found him funny.

With the obvious exceptions. Although the only Brooks movie I really love is Young Frankenstein, and that was more Gene Wilder's baby that Brooks'

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:21 PM (KRtlO)

109 yup, me too, never got Spaceballs at all, and most of Mel Brooks' stuff is just dumb. I know that's not a popular opinion, and I know there are two big exceptions.
Posted by: ace

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Which two? Spaceballs was awesome, Men in Tights was eh, History of the World was great but I'd put Spaceballs ahead, and I can never get to into Blazing Saddles... If you ever liked Star Wars, and think anything Mel Brooks is good, Spaceballs is worth it.

And not to ruin it, but an Alien fan would like the ending too...

Posted by: bearski at June 17, 2025 05:21 PM (Bhsk7)

110
Is This Something?

This Charlie's Angels spoof is an AI generated short. It's half-realistic and half-creepy-as-fuck:

https://is.gd/7LbmrD

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 05:21 PM (h0F3f)

111 Superman is not dark and gritty.

I fucking hate James Gunn for doing Brightburn. Hate. Fuck James Gunn.

The tone for superman should be like the tone of The Rocketeer and the First Captain America. Both by Joe Johnston, btw. That guy got it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (zZu0s)

112 Mel Brooks announces "Spaceballs 2" coming in 2027.

The teaser mocks Hollywood's sequel, prequel, reboot and side-quel mania.
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Hard pass.

I like Mel Brooks, but I have long thought "Space Balls" was his weakest work. I have no desire for a decades-later sequel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (6bTRc)

113 I am okay with Superman for kids, but having him constantly being beat to a pulp and losing his temper and acting like a dork in the trailers does not inspire confidence in me. I think its going to be Gunn playing with this action figures for hundreds of millions of dollars.

"OK I got Superman, and Dorky Social Media Luthor, and Guy Gardner, and Hawkgirl, and Mr Terrific and..."

The Alien Earth show has a super powered girlboss android main character. Not really expecting much out of it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (e7kz6)

114 Fo you believe there are 60 year old fighter pilots?

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They specialize in keeping kids of their lawn.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (9JXSH)

115 Ah love you, Jen-A!

Posted by: Gump. Forrest Gump. at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (y/iut)

116
Couldn't you do a nice alien--she joins a Mom's group and drinks wine?
Posted by: Northernlurker

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There's an original Twilight Zone episode something like that, where aliens come down to save stupid humans from their own asses sort of like guardian angels. I don't know if I've ever seen it redone. There was a dumb movie about guardian angels starring Meg Ryan and Nic Cage, but it was more high-concept silliness.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (wbZPZ)

117 I am watching Resident Alien. Is there anything good streaming?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (P9gC0)

118 The autocannons scene in Aliens was classic. Even technology is fallible against the Xenomorphs who come in waves.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (BNLtx)

119 I liked that scene and thought it should have been included. I thought it showed how determined the aliens were, how helpless the soldiers where when even auto mini-guns can’t stop them, and it was some nice effects shots for the time, I would have re-edited it, tho, so it’s less humans staring blankly at screens showing bullet countdowns.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 05:21 PM

It also explains why the group wasn't just overrun by 200 drones.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (jc0TO)

120 Btw, the aliens coming to earth is the one alien movie that people really wanted to see, but they never made it. They kept making the same movie in space, on a spaceship, over and over.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

Err, Aliens vs. Predators was set on earth and it sucked. Except for a few sequences. And Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem also, but was a insane disaster of a clusterf. Feh.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:20 PM (mlg/3)
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Aliens on earth as in a population center. Not an ancient temple which was basically a spaceship. Without predators.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (GCyOY)

121 108 >>Most of it is just off-color dad jokes, but it beats most of what Hollywood has done for the past 28 years. Plus, it is good-natured, which is not the case for all of the "edgy" crap. Can't we just be entertained?

I mean yeah, you can totally like him. I just have never found him funny.

With the obvious exceptions. Although the only Brooks movie I really love is Young Frankenstein, and that was more Gene Wilder's baby that Brooks'
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:21 PM (KRtlO)

Black and white masterpiece… the casting was inspired…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (PCK5/)

122 Brooks seems pretty spry for a guy of 98. Spaceballs had some funny stuff , Moranis as Dark Helmet, but overall just meh

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (akw+7)

123 Back in the day there was at least one interesting movie being released a week. Now? Good look finding one interesting movie a season...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (t0Rmr)

124
Mostly.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer

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iswydt

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:23 PM (wbZPZ)

125 >>Prey was surprisingly good.
So I will indulge them here.

even so, why continue with the same monster in pretty much the exact same situation?

Don't get me wrong, I love Predator, liked Predator 2, and acknowledge the monster design and his lore (intergalactic safari hunters) is great.

But... I mean, wouldn't it be great to have a DIFFERENT monster with different lore?

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:23 PM (KRtlO)

126 Aliens will be a commentary on aliens. You watch.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:23 PM (A5bjg)

127 88 think Slapshot could be redone.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:17 PM (kTd/k)

Basically Goon
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (MGB5H)

You cannot replace the Hansen brothers. Not possible.

When the boy was young we took him to Fairbanks for a hockey tournament. Someone had done a lovely ice sculpture of the Hansen brothers outside the arena, right down to the glasses.

Some things are just timeless.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 17, 2025 05:23 PM (a4NoL)

128
It's a Charlie's Angels spoof on obama's dead chefs mystery, starring Pam Blondi, Kristi, and Tulsi as the "Angels."

It's wacky & wild to watch.

https://is.gd/7LbmrD

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 05:23 PM (h0F3f)

129 I wonder if Letterkenny would work on the big screen. I see it as My Dinner with Andre but with hicks and vulgarity.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:23 PM (kTd/k)

130 yup, me too, never got Spaceballs at all
Posted by: ace

*single tear rolls down face*

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 05:23 PM (zZu0s)

131 "You're a black belt in Being Wrong About Everything."

Ouch, Ace. You nailed the story of my year.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 17, 2025 05:24 PM (SJrOE)

132 Also that Shane Black AvP that looked like Shane Black decided to write a sequel out of spite of H-wood and everyone on the planet.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:24 PM (mlg/3)

133 is it Lindsay Graham?

Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
The Iranian regime just released this video of someone stroking a nuclear bomb.

https://tinyurl.com/58n7nkr6

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 05:24 PM (TGPs7)

134 I just had a six hour flight home. I tried to find a movie.

This is what I avoid: lesbian/homo sex movies; really stupid movies of simple gore; cornball Hallmark movies of love that would nauseate me and deplete however many brain cells I have left; Korean movies...why?; movies in Spanish that I click on and then get mad as there was no warning; movies with these actors and probably others: Kidman, Streep, Gerbil Gere, Jane Fonda, or any liberal who has moved to Europe due to Trump. I am sure there are more.

Some actors may only have the sin of a facial mole or are ugly and I will not watch them. Therefore I watched a rerun, and another one of a fictional chef.

I remain irritated that there is no original thought nor writing since, oh, the third writer's strike or covid or whatever.

Sequels don't do it for me much at all, altho I will endure them on long flights. As much as I detest Ben Affleck I watched Accountant 1 and 2 because I felt a bit violent recently. His acting is rather wooden like his basic demeanor to the public. I could "act" like this as well and just show up. Oh, I also don't watch movies with Lopez as she irritates me.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 05:24 PM (6PCLE)

135 But of course they won't make another Dredd movie.

I only saw the spoof of I Know What You Did Last Summer which was called Scary Movie IIRC.

I watched two movies yesterday that were better than average All Niter with JK Simmons and Changeland written by and starring Seth Green. It's a pretty cool look at Thailand within the story.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:24 PM (VofaG)

136 15
Balls Deep
&
Free Balling

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 05:05 PM (h0F3f)
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I saw Balls Deep and Freeballing open for Stone Temple Pilots at Summer Fest '96.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 17, 2025 05:24 PM (QdGJh)

137 104 Btw, the aliens coming to earth is the one alien movie that people really wanted to see, but they never made it. They kept making the same movie in space, on a spaceship, over and over.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade
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For unmined sequel potential, Prometheus for the win.

Posted by: WisRich at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM (G0vdT)

138 If Slapshot was remade the Hansen brothers would be triplets trannies

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM (akw+7)

139 Why can't we in the West have something like Cutey Honey?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uSgIp4yXVk

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM (BNLtx)

140 *single tear rolls down face*

What, you Italian or something?

Posted by: man at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM (tubbA)

141 Like one of those poops where everything goes in one smooth uninterrupted motion and you can't even believe how efficient and accomplished you are at pooping.

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Pics ... or it didn't happen.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM (uG83j)

142 I do agree that the fixation with grim and dark and "realistic" superhero stuff is not just really tired at this point but never welcome to begin with. Superheroes don't have to be for little kids, but there are certain topics and aspects of life that they should largely avoid or only touch on very briefly and carefully.

For example, the entire Civil War storyline dealt with aspects of superheroes that should be left entirely untouched. You just don't GO there, because they ruin the entire genre, they undermine every concept of superheroes and the rules of their setting by worrying about government regulation and registration and innocents dying in superhero fights, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM (e7kz6)

143 Was it like a fat man style bomb?

Or a Little Boy?

Cause I have heard the Iranians like stroking little boys.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM (zZu0s)

144 > If you say Blazing Saddles is dumb, I'm leaving and never coming back until tomorrow.

Blazing Saddles has many great moments, but there's a good amount of crap in it too. The beans scene? Awful. Boris the hangman? Awful.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM (lIio7)

145 Like one of those poops where everything goes in one smooth uninterrupted motion and you can't even believe how efficient and accomplished you are at pooping.

Yes, I am familiar with those.

Posted by: Amber Heard at June 17, 2025 05:26 PM (0sNs1)

146 The best Alien, after Alien and Aliens, is Alien: Isolation, a video game.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 05:26 PM (Dv3i1)

147 >>Jennifer Love Hewitt… one of the cutest girls that God ever made..l

yup.

and I like the first I Know What You Did Last Summer. I mean, it's not great, but it's good enough.

But... it doesn't seem like the kind of classic that needs a remake.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:26 PM (KRtlO)

148 yup, me too, never got Spaceballs at all
Posted by: ace

It did not age well at all.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:26 PM (mlg/3)

149 125 >>Prey was surprisingly good.
So I will indulge them here.

even so, why continue with the same monster in pretty much the exact same situation?

Sure. I'd rather see altogether new stuff.

But I'll also see retreads if the quality is high. I'm not gonna make the perfect the enemy of the good when there is so little good these days.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 05:26 PM (UGyV5)

150 Never invest in your own play.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 17, 2025 05:27 PM (DLl29)

151 Dredd was fantastic. Rough as hell, but it is what you sign up for.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 05:27 PM (zZu0s)

152 128
It's a Charlie's Angels spoof on obama's dead chefs mystery, starring Pam Blondi, Kristi, and Tulsi as the "Angels."

It's wacky & wild to watch.

https://is.gd/7LbmrD
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 05:23 PM (h0F3f)

That’s fun… thanks, Sooth…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:27 PM (PCK5/)

153 That is a very small bomb.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:27 PM (P9gC0)

154 Prey was surprisingly good.
So I will indulge them here.

It's no Leprechaun 4: In Space.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:27 PM (jc0TO)

155 Japan's version of Charlie's Angels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P2Vgv5rdOg

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:27 PM (BNLtx)

156 yup, me too, never got Spaceballs at all

Its not Brooks' best work, but its his last good one. Its pretty fun, if not hilarious. Better than Men in Tights. A sequel could be painfully funny, but not written by someone in modern Hollywood.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:27 PM (e7kz6)

157 even so, why continue with the same monster in pretty much the exact same situation?

Don't get me wrong, I love Predator, liked Predator 2, and acknowledge the monster design and his lore (intergalactic safari hunters) is great.

But... I mean, wouldn't it be great to have a DIFFERENT monster with different lore?

Maybe this time the monster is gay or tranny.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (s8j++)

158 I've always liked dark and grim. The problem is that it's now overdone. It can't all be antiheroes.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (UGyV5)

159 17 I don't like dark. I like happy endings !
Posted by: runner

I'm you're girl! And I'm not all that busy!

Posted by: Mrs. Emhoff at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (G5+As)

160
I can't wait for Fast & Furious 27: This time, we're done.
Posted by: toby928

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Which movie was it a couple of years ago that did a hot lick on this at the end? They "teased" the next 20 sequels and they were increasingly ridiculous. Dang, wish I could remember.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (wbZPZ)

161 Takes 2 years to make Spaceballs 2 or are they allowing a year for promotion?

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (VofaG)

162 93 I'm thinking about re-reading the Stainless Steel Rat series and reliving my teen years. That's how much I GAF.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 17, 2025 05:19 PM (ERYKL)

Why didn't they take those stories to the screen? Marvelous storytelling.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (a4NoL)

163 Movie Review ace is Best ace!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (wVcYX)

164 Spaceballs was better than the sequels.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (P9gC0)

165 134 I just had a six hour flight home. I tried to find a movie...
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat

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I watched 'Saturday Night' on a flight the week before last. About the first Saturday Night Live episode. I thought it was great. Great casting, good script, best Jason Reitman movie after Thank You for Smoking. Between the crummy offerings and how much I liked it, I watched it again on the return flight...

Posted by: bearski at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (Bhsk7)

166 As a matter of fact, I AM pretty efficient and accomplished at pooping!

Posted by: Amber Heard

I see there's a new book out detailing the Depp/Heard affair if you just can't get enough.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (9JXSH)

167 I can't wait for Fast & Furious 27: This time, we're done.
Posted by: toby928

F&F 28 The Rise of the EVs.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (PfGa7)

168 Btw, the aliens coming to earth is the one alien movie that people really wanted to see, but they never made it. They kept making the same movie in space, on a spaceship, over and over.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

________________

I think Alien should have been a trilogy.

The first encounter
The government cluster fuck
The invasion of Earth

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (H0Gk5)

169 i've barely seen any Jon Stewart but I did see him commenting on the I Know What You Did Last Summer trailer, which featured Michelle Gellar's boobs and a lot of Jennifer Love Hewitt's boobs.

He called it something like I Know What You Boobed Last Hooters.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (KRtlO)

170 ... Korean movies...why? ...
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 05:24 PM (6PCLE)
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Korean movies are often decent. They generally still understand characters and story telling. Plenty of garbage, of course, but I've found a lot like. Especially if you like revenge stories. Koreans seem to grok vengeance, its causes and its consequences.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (6bTRc)

171 Pics ... or it didn't happen.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM

There several sites on the Internet where you can submit a photo for a rating, or (presumably) just browse other's submissions.

Apparently there's now one that uses AI to do the rating.

Posted by: Amber Heard at June 17, 2025 05:29 PM (0sNs1)

172 Blazing Saddles has many great moments, but there's a good amount of crap in it too. The beans scene? Awful. Boris the hangman? Awful.

Not every joke always lands but... you have no soul.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:29 PM (e7kz6)

173 I personally do not care for movies where the evil wins and there is literally nothing to be done about it.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:29 PM (jc0TO)

174 I think Batman should be dark, but I agree other Superhero films should lighten up.

Posted by: Max Power at June 17, 2025 05:29 PM (q177U)

175 Why can't we in the West have something like Cutey Honey?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uSgIp4yXVk
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM (BNLtx)

On the other hand anime also has pretty dark stuff like Noir. Or even Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:29 PM (8avO+)

176 I am watching Resident Alien. Is there anything good streaming?
Posted by: Boss Moss

The Tourist: Irish guy wakes up in an Australian hospital with no memory. Get's kind of kooky and dark at the end. 2nd season jumps to Ireland for reasons. Has a weird yet subtle sense of humor about it.

Mobland: ultra-violent mob story in the UK starring Tom Hardy and bunch of other Brit actors. It's called Shakesperean because all of the characters are unlikeable PoS.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:29 PM (mlg/3)

177 140 No, he is an authentic indigenous-Italian American.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 05:30 PM (77rzZ)

178 It can't all be antiheroes.

Yeah if the entire superhero team is Wolverine or Batman... nobody stands out and has contrast. Its just mopey and annoying.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:30 PM (e7kz6)

179 "*Sighs* That 'Naked Gun' remake looks awful and is giving me Steve Martin as Inspector Clouseau vibes.
"

Yeah. It's real bad. Like bad.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 05:30 PM (fV+MH)

180 Not even going to watch the Naked Gun trailer. There were three NG movies and each a gem; but that was when comedy was funny, that age is long past.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 17, 2025 05:30 PM (wBaIH)

181 Young Frankenstein is Brooks’ best work.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 05:30 PM (W2Pud)

182
Disney pioneered "family entertainment." Everyone in the family could enjoy his products. It wasn't like you had to sacrifice a Saturday afternoon to sit through a kiddie movie.

Old Yeller, my God, that's one tough story. I haven't seen it since I was a kid so it might look a lot weaker now, but I definitely perceived the difference between that and Saturday morning cartoons, young as I was.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:30 PM (wbZPZ)

183 The Hound of the Baskervilles because Ace is never going to read the book.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:30 PM (kTd/k)

184 Ace, if you want a fun show, 'Stargirl' on Amazon was really fun.

Posted by: Stateless.. 32% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 05:31 PM (jvJvP)

185 Hard to beat 1975 and 1977.
1975
Jaws
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Shampooing
Dog Day Afternoon
The Return of the Pink Panther
Three Days of the Condor
Funny Lady
The Other Side of the Mountain
Tommy

1977

Star Wars
Smokey and the Bandit
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Saturday Night Fever
The Goodbye Girl
A Bridge Too Far
The Deep
The Spy Who Loved Me
Oh, God!
Annie Hall

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:31 PM (A5bjg)

186 Like Bubblegum Crash, Bubblegum Crisis 2040 does not exist.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:31 PM (BNLtx)

187 movies make me glad that I like to read

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 05:31 PM (/Ghsb)

188 Unfortunately Spaceballs 2 is being written by Josh Gaad. The unfunny shit that is the voice of Olaf in Frozen and was the bad guy sidekick in live action Beauty and the Beast. So he is a woke shit. Do not expect Spaceballs 2 to take the shots at current movies that it should to actually be funny.

Posted by: buzzion at June 17, 2025 05:31 PM (aRLgQ)

189 177 140 No, he is an authentic indigenous-Italian American.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 05:30 PM (77rzZ)

True!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 05:31 PM (zZu0s)

190 I've said before that ludicrous speed is the only quote I took away from Space Balls. I know there are more people like but that's the only one that stuck with me.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:31 PM (VofaG)

191 Like one of those poops where everything goes in one smooth uninterrupted motion and you can't even believe how efficient and accomplished you are at pooping.
_______

Give me the juice
The metamuce
Soft and loose

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 05:32 PM (ITkJX)

192 Posted by: Bulg

Posted by: Huh? at June 17, 2025 05:32 PM (OG98j)

193 > Not every joke always lands but... you have no soul.

Heh.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:32 PM (lIio7)

194 In C. S. Lewis' day, they said "adult" instead of "dark and gritty," but he nailed the mindset Ace is talking about pretty accurately:

"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

Posted by: Wiese at June 17, 2025 05:32 PM (W2RQ1)

195 Blazing Saddles has many great moments, but there's a good amount of crap in it too. The beans scene? Awful. Boris the hangman? Awful.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:25 PM

But then there's the scene where we get mentioned.

Posted by: Male-attracted Terpsichoreans of Kansas City at June 17, 2025 05:32 PM (0sNs1)

196 Disney pioneered "family entertainment." Everyone in the family could enjoy his products. It wasn't like you had to sacrifice a Saturday afternoon to sit through a kiddie movie. ...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:30 PM (wbZPZ)
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And as Disney lost it, it had a lifeline in the form of Pixar. John Lasseter *really* understood family entertainment. Disney lost its last ability at family fare when it iced him.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:32 PM (6bTRc)

197 Hard to beat 1975 and 1977.

The thing is, you can do that for nearly every year from 1939 to around 2000. We used to have it so good, young people do not understand why older generations are so disgruntled with modern cinema. It used to be we would go to the movies and be really surprised if a movie sucked. Now we expect it to be terrible and watch Pitch Meeting videos instead.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:32 PM (e7kz6)

198 I do love stepping into a bar or party and exclaim 'Where all da white women at"

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:33 PM (VofaG)

199 170 ... Korean movies...why? ...
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 05:24 PM (6PCLE)
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Korean movies are often decent. They generally still understand characters and story telling. Plenty of garbage, of course, but I've found a lot like. Especially if you like revenge stories. Koreans seem to grok vengeance, its causes and its consequences.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (6bTRc)

I've also seen at least one great Korean horror movie (Exhuma). It seems like adults are still in charge of their movie industry, and they don't seem to have our preoccupation with DEI in casting.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 05:33 PM (UGyV5)

200 166 As a matter of fact, I AM pretty efficient and accomplished at pooping!

Posted by: Amber Heard

Look, fat! I'm still the champ, especially now that I can't trust a fart!

Posted by: The President Emeritus at June 17, 2025 05:33 PM (G5+As)

201 I’ve not seen a mind boggling, amazing, holy shit that was GREAT, movie in decades.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 05:33 PM (OG98j)

202 >>to be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence.

yup. People who have just passed out of childhood don't want to be confused with children. Older people don't care and might even like being confused for children.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:33 PM (KRtlO)

203
Is there anything good streaming?
Posted by: Boss Moss

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What do you like? What services do you have? The Netflix documentary on the Titan disaster is pretty cool. I'm also rewatching a series I thought was awesome when I first saw it, but it might be too cynical for some. I'll reveal the name if you beg me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:33 PM (wbZPZ)

204 I think Alien should have been a trilogy.

The first encounter
The government cluster fuck
The invasion of Earth
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 17, 2025 05:28 PM (H0Gk5)

Back in the days of the Aliens movie there was an SF book series which had a legally distinct Alien plot. In one the Aliens take over a colony world but it is biologically wired to grow a superior "queen bee" and the idiot queen starts interfering with the war and eventually the humans are prepping to nuke the planets while the general is rearranging the pillows for the queen.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:33 PM (8avO+)

205
So are there YA stories that teach adult themes? By which I mean, themes that distinguish adults from youths. Stuff like - oh, I don't know - responsibility, foregoing pleasure for duty, charity. Things taken for granted not all that many years ago but now derided as bourgeois repression.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 05:34 PM (Q+BiN)

206 The FBI and IRS announced they’ve teamed up to track down and ARREST those who are funding the Los Angeles riots

http://tiny.cc/xm7n001

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:34 PM (lIio7)

207 Do not expect Spaceballs 2 to take the shots at current movies that it should to actually be funny.

Exactly. They could savage modern trek and star wars and Disney, just mock and rip them apart and it could be hilarious. But that manling will not even consider the possibility.

I thought the Naked Gun 2 trailer was kinda funny, personally.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:34 PM (e7kz6)

208 > I have no further questions about the Terminator

Oh, but what about a Tajikistani handicapped transgendered Terminator? Huh? Huh?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 05:34 PM (qpyNK)

209 Now we expect it to be terrible and watch Pitch Meeting videos instead.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:32 PM (e7kz6

Yup. Agreed.

I was lamenting to my woman that the only sequel that ever crushed it was GodFather II.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:34 PM (A5bjg)

210 I've also seen at least one great Korean horror movie (Exhuma). It seems like adults are still in charge of their movie industry, and they don't seem to have our preoccupation with DEI in casting.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 05:33 PM (UGyV5)

Not a lot of diversity on the Peninsula. They just had to draw a line across to fight each other over.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:35 PM (8avO+)

211 Disney pioneered "family entertainment." Everyone in the family could enjoy his products. It wasn't like you had to sacrifice a Saturday afternoon to sit through a kiddie movie.

Sunday evenings after dinner.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 05:35 PM (PfGa7)

212 Is it wrong that I liked Predators more than Predator ?

Though Predator gave us "I aint got time to bleed"

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:35 PM (VofaG)

213 BREAKING: Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was transported to a hospital in the Washington, DC, area by ambulance on Tuesday.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 05:36 PM (/U5Yz)

214 190 I've said before that ludicrous speed is the only quote I took away from Space Balls. I know there are more people like but that's the only one that stuck with me.
Posted by: polynikes

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"When will now be then?" "Soon!"

Also, with a current 140lb 9 year old and his 70lb 7 year old brother, for years after carrying the older one around and swapping him out for his brother, I would say "This is great! I can carry 2 or 3 of these!" At one point I had them watch Spaceballs on basic cable and they got the joke...

Posted by: bearski at June 17, 2025 05:36 PM (Bhsk7)

215 > yup. People who have just passed out of childhood don't want to be confused with children. Older people don't care and might even like being confused for children.

I dated a woman whose grandfather, who was as sharp as a tack, loved to pretend he was a bit addled. It gave him freedom in public to banter with children and do other frowned upon things.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:36 PM (lIio7)

216 So are there YA stories that teach adult themes? By which I mean, themes that distinguish adults from youths. Stuff like - oh, I don't know - responsibility, foregoing pleasure for duty, charity. Things taken for granted not all that many years ago but now derided as bourgeois repression.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 05:34 PM (Q+BiN)

Probably have to go back to the 60s for that.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:36 PM (8avO+)

217 "The thing is, you can do that for nearly every year from 1939 to around 2000. We used to have it so good, young people do not understand why older generations are so disgruntled with modern cinema. It used to be we would go to the movies and be really surprised if a movie sucked. Now we expect it to be terrible and watch Pitch Meeting videos instead.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor "

Exactly.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 05:36 PM (fV+MH)

218 213 BREAKING: Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was transported to a hospital in the Washington, DC, area by ambulance on Tuesday.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 05:36 PM (/U5Yz

Oh boy

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:37 PM (A5bjg)

219
https://is.gd/7LbmrD
Posted by: Soothsayer

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That is hilarious, especially the way they kept having different gowns and hairdos in the same scene.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:37 PM (wbZPZ)

220 I'll try Titan. Thanks. I have a free service that streams everything.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:37 PM (P9gC0)

221 If you like Korean movies, try Alienoid and The Witch. Some great action and interesting plots, although they have some Korean-y goofiness which is par for the course.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 05:37 PM (GCyOY)

222 Xwitter reporting Kristin Noem taken to hospital in ambulance.

I'm ready to donate my fluids to keep her going.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 17, 2025 05:37 PM (73voq)

223 Titanic made hundreds of millions, many Oscars, yet no sequel, why?

Posted by: One Mile Down at June 17, 2025 05:37 PM (G5+As)

224 What everybody seems to be missing is that all these remakes are NOT due to lack of imagination. The originals are part of our culture, and what they are doing is trying to re-write our culture.

Just look at Snow White, where everything that was loved about the original was stripped (and demonized), and a bunch of Woke BS was added.

Or "Wicked", which is apparently popular due some great songs. In that, all the good guys from the Wizard of Oz are literally turned into bad guys, and vice versa.

The bad guys have long understood the importance of culture, and took over Hollywood a long time ago. They're stepping up their reprogramming efforts, in an attempt to destroy our civilization, so they can remake it to their own ends.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:38 PM (hOOi9)

225
Still no Joe Vs the Vocano II ?

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 05:38 PM (IifOV)

226 >>The Hound of the Baskervilles because Ace is never going to read the book.

Ace still thinks The Butler did it.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 05:38 PM (uZ2FS)

227 What was the Korean movie where they basically do a home invasion on some family?

Pretty good if I recall.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:38 PM (A5bjg)

228 It's not Korean horror unless there is a gumiho in it eating out someone's liver.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:38 PM (BNLtx)

229 > I've said before that ludicrous speed is the only quote I took away from Space Balls.

Sometimes in my head, when I'm happy with something I did, I'll repeat the cheery line, "I'm my own best friend!"

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:38 PM (lIio7)

230 Back in the days of the Aliens movie there was an SF book series which had a legally distinct Alien plot. In one the Aliens take over a colony world but it is biologically wired to grow a superior "queen bee" and the idiot queen starts interfering with the war and eventually the humans are prepping to nuke the planets while the general is rearranging the pillows for the queen.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:33 PM (8avO+)

___________

That's one of the Dark Horse comic series, they were pretty good at times and that's one of the better ones. I think they introduced the concept of the Sith into Star Wars, it was them or one of the novels.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 17, 2025 05:38 PM (H0Gk5)

231 What was the Korean movie where they basically do a home invasion on some family?

Pretty good if I recall.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Parasite?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:38 PM (mlg/3)

232 223 Titanic made hundreds of millions, many Oscars, yet no sequel, why?
Posted by: One Mile Down at June 17, 2025 05:37 PM (G5+As

They did one. Reservation Road.

Jack and Rose get divorced.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (A5bjg)

233 Nurse, I went to a Warped Tour event about 20 years ago. They had an OD tent for parents, where they showed Young Frankenstein over and over. It was packed wIth others my age

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (wBaIH)

234 The tone for superman should be like the tone of The Rocketeer and the First Captain America.

There have been only two modern writers I’m aware of who have really gotten Superman. Grant Morrison (All-Star Superman) and Elliot S! Maggin (the “novelizations” Last Son of Krypton and Miracle Monday). Everybody else wants to make him “realistic” and by “realistic” they mean make him as petty and egocentric as they would be if they had that level of power.

It felt like a miracle, though none could say why.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (EXyHK)

235 I cannot believe girlboss tween POC Iron Man wasn't a smash hit.

....yeah, I saw the trailer and knew it was going to be bad.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (tT6L1)

236 >>3 BREAKING: Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was transported to a hospital in the Washington, DC, area by ambulance on Tuesday.

I hope for her sake that she didn't get into the neighbors chickens, again.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (uZ2FS)

237
𝗡𝗶𝗼𝗵 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗴 ♛ ✡︎
@NiohBerg
The regime has cut off the entire internet across Iran.

Last time they did this in 2019, they proceeded to massacre over 7000 people in just one weekend.

Pray.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (TGPs7)

238 Titanic made hundreds of millions, many Oscars, yet no sequel, why?

Because Britannic hitting a mine and sinking is not as exciting.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (BNLtx)

239 Pretty good if I recall.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Parasite?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:38 PM (mlg/3

Yup. That's it! Thx!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (A5bjg)

240 "When will now be then?" "Soon!"

Posted by: bearski
________

"We aint found shit!"

Another scene he could never do today, even with woke being rolled back a little.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (ITkJX)

241
That old creepy pervert and shitty "actor" Arnold Shwarzenegger went on The View, and they kept baiting him to trash ICE, but Arnold wasn't having it.

lol, the audience and panel were silent and miffed because they wanted Red Meat.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 05:40 PM (h0F3f)

242 207 I thought the Naked Gun 2 trailer was kinda funny, personally.

i'm right here, you know

Posted by: naked gun 33 1/3 at June 17, 2025 05:40 PM (sGtp+)

243 Like Bubblegum Crash, Bubblegum Crisis 2040 does not exist.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:31 PM (BNLtx)

I liked it, and the robot returning to see its wife show was very gloomy. Never saw the first one, wasn't available in my short anime phase.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:40 PM (8avO+)

244
Driving Miss Daisy II. Revenge of the Uber

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (IifOV)

245
Another truth that it wouldn't hurt the young to learn early: you get a raw deal in life but you have to get along with thing instead of sitting in your own midden whining about it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (Q+BiN)

246 Xwitter: Iran issue GLOBAL THREAT, "tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries."

Wait, is Lindsay Lohan turning 18 again?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (73voq)

247 What's the consensus on Ivan Reitman movies?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (A5bjg)

248 Is there anything good streaming?

My Hero Academia
Reruns of Bob's Burgers

That's pretty much it for me.

Rewatched Tropic Thunder last weekend. Better than I remembered it being.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (2DqMj)

249 Titanic made hundreds of millions, many Oscars, yet no sequel, why?
Posted by: One Mile Down

Fake News.

https://tinyurl.com/v5n58zub

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (MXu2l)

250
I was lamenting to my woman that the only sequel that ever crushed it was GodFather II.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

==============

Aliens
Toy Story 2

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (wbZPZ)

251 129 I wonder if Letterkenny would work on the big screen. I see it as My Dinner with Andre but with hicks and vulgarity.

yes!

I mean sure why not

my dinner with andre with wordplay and pummeling

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (Pv3Rg)

252 I can't believe someone decided to remake Iron Man except with a black ghetto girl as the star.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (uWKK8)

253 I finally saw 'Her'

thought it was better than I expected

sweet

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (Pv3Rg)

254 223 Titanic made hundreds of millions, many Oscars, yet no sequel, why?
Posted by: One Mile Down at June 17, 2025 05:37 PM (G5+As

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081400/

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (aBgBM)

255 202 >>to be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence.

yup. People who have just passed out of childhood don't want to be confused with children. Older people don't care and might even like being confused for children.

This is why I'm so appalled that the Dems think gratuitous F bombs make them sound tough and serious. They sound like 13 year old boys.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (s8j++)

256 173 I personally do not care for movies where the evil wins and there is literally nothing to be done about it.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:29 PM (jc0TO)

Nihilism. Started in the 60’s in entertainment… watch Midnight Cowboy sometime… that’s a real wristcutter..

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (PCK5/)

257 BREAKING: Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was transported to a hospital in the Washington, DC, area by ambulance on Tuesday.

I hope for her sake that she didn't get into the neighbors chickens, again.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (uZ2FS)

She's still trainable iykwim

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (VofaG)

258 Iran is teasing a surprise the world will remember for centuries.

I hope it's a Jennifer Love Hewitt sex tape.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (lIio7)

259 248 Is there anything good streaming?

did we talk about Dark Matter? I liked Dark Matter

right now I'm still wading thru letterkenny

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (Pv3Rg)

260 That's one of the Dark Horse comic series, they were pretty good at times and that's one of the better ones. I think they introduced the concept of the Sith into Star Wars, it was them or one of the novels.
Posted by: DFCtomm at June 17, 2025 05:38 PM (H0Gk5)

no, it was a paperback book, no pictures. The aliens were called the Vang. Christopher Rowley.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (8avO+)

261 Noem reportedly conscious in the hospital, talking to her security team.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (qpyNK)

262 Thanks. Rocket Time.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:43 PM (P9gC0)

263 228 It's not Korean horror unless there is a gumiho in it eating out someone's liver.

gummi bear > gumiho

Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2025 05:43 PM (sGtp+)

264 I cannot believe girlboss tween POC Iron Man wasn't a smash hit.

....yeah, I saw the trailer and knew it was going to be bad.
Posted by: blake

Marvel put out a comic series for IronFart and it failed in 6 issues. No one wanted it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:43 PM (mlg/3)

265 Supposedly, Tom Cruise is interested in doing a Les Grossman movie. Maybe looking for a script, not sure.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 05:43 PM (tT6L1)

266
"tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries."

______

They're converting to Catholicism?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 05:43 PM (Q+BiN)

267 213 BREAKING: Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was transported to a hospital in the Washington, DC, area by ambulance on Tuesday.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 05:36 PM (/U5Yz)

Seems odd that there are no details. Like where she was when her emergency hit, and what she was doing. Like whether she doubled over in pain, or fainted, or was shot.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:43 PM (hOOi9)

268 What everybody seems to be missing is that all these remakes are NOT due to lack of imagination. The originals are part of our culture, and what they are doing is trying to re-write our culture.

Exactimundo. The remakes are partly copyright retention, partly global market reach, and a big part "we will manipulate what you once knew for young people."

Its like the BBC's overpowering fixation on injecting black and what they call "asian" into the past, its not about representation, its about manipulating young people to know even know what the past was like and to destroy their heritage.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:43 PM (e7kz6)

269 >>>What's the consensus on Ivan Reitman movies?

I think he directed My Super Ex-Girlfriend which I liked a lot more than I probably should.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:43 PM (KRtlO)

270 That old creepy pervert and shitty "actor" Arnold Shwarzenegger went on The View, and they kept baiting him to trash ICE, but Arnold wasn't having it.

lol, the audience and panel were silent and miffed because they wanted Red Meat.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 05:40 PM

I was reliably informed by The View mensch Sunny Hostin that it's not illegal to be undocumented.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 05:43 PM (0sNs1)

271 248 Is there anything good streaming?

My Hero Academia
Reruns of Bob's Burgers

That's pretty much it for me.

Rewatched Tropic Thunder last weekend. Better than I remembered it being.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (2DqMj)

They are streaming The Accountant, 1&2… they are not awful, maybe even okay for today..

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:44 PM (PCK5/)

272 "Battleship 2" anyone? Best remedy for insomnia.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 17, 2025 05:44 PM (QVzW0)

273 Last time they did this in 2019, they proceeded to massacre over 7000 people in just one weekend.

Pray.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (TGPs7)

The rebels might have air support now.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:44 PM (8avO+)

274 I mean sure why not

my dinner with andre with wordplay and pummeling
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (Pv3Rg)

A donnybrook eh boys!

Posted by: Fuck off, Riley! at June 17, 2025 05:44 PM (TbWk/)

275 Xwitter: Iran issue GLOBAL THREAT, "tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries."

Whatever you say, Ayatollah Geraldo...

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 05:44 PM (6+qrj)

276 261 Noem reportedly conscious in the hospital, talking to her security team.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (qpyNK)

That's nice, but also strange. Why are THEY the ones she's talking to? THAT kind of makes it sound like she was attacked, and is acting as a witness to it.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:44 PM (hOOi9)

277 Maybe this time the monster is gay or tranny.

I vant to...cut off your penis. Muhahahaha

Posted by: A Trannypire at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (t0Rmr)

278 225 Still no Joe Vs the Vocano II ?

ain't nobody got enough orange soda for that!

Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (sGtp+)

279 The Indian Jones films are all basically kid-friendly, except for that one part in every Indiana Jones movie where someone gets his head chopped up by a propeller or something. Okay, maybe not for kids exactly, but a dad can watch that with his 12-year-old.
---
Temple of Doom created PG-13. Lucas was going through a divorce and insisted on the heart being ripped out of his chest being included.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (ZOv7s)

280 Biggest plot issue for 2040 was Sylia going Replicant.

Character design, Sylia was indistinguishable from Ifurita. The other character designs were not much better.

And the music was complete elevator grade muzak. The rare alignment of getting actual singers for roles like Priss had ended.

Original Bubblegum Crisis was only 8 OVAs compared to a whole TV season for 2040.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (BNLtx)

281
Noem reportedly conscious in the hospital, talking to her security team.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

================

My bet: kidney stone

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (wbZPZ)

282 250
I was lamenting to my woman that the only sequel that ever crushed it was GodFather II.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

==============

Aliens
Toy Story 2
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

---------------------------

Captain America: Winter Soldier

There's a sequel out there that was way better than the original. Tip of my tongue but not coming to mind...

Posted by: bearski at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (Bhsk7)

283 Sadly, Ironheart has not come out yet but word FROM INSIDE DISNEY is that its horrible and they couldn't get rid of it so they are just going to barf it out and hope people forget.

to be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence.

Indeed, GK Chesterton, JRR Tolkien, and CS Lewis all wrote extensively on this topic and why fantasy (they called it 'fairy stories') matter so much.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (e7kz6)

284 They are streaming The Accountant, 1&2… they are not awful, maybe even okay for today..
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:44 PM (PCK5/)

I like 1. 2 feels like it was written during a writer's strike.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (UGyV5)

285 @libsoftiktok
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58s
BREAKING: I’m told Secretary Kristi Noem had an allergic reaction. She was transported to the hospital out of an abundance of caution. She is alert and conscious.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (mlg/3)

286 Speaking of kid's movies...
I really loved The Princess Bride.

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (R2gO3)

287 The modern BBC and Agatha Christie.

With the exception of "Why Didn't They Ask Evans?", horrible. All of it.

Posted by: sal at June 17, 2025 05:46 PM (f+FmA)

288 No, they mean they want to see Superman rip people's heads from their bodies and use his laser vision to shoot holes through people's chests.

And that he should say "f*ck" a lot.

So, The Boys...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 05:46 PM (y9nCu)

289
That's nice, but also strange. Why are THEY the ones she's talking to? THAT kind of makes it sound like she was attacked, and is acting as a witness to it.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:44 PM (hOOi9)

_________

The dog. It got its revenge.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 05:46 PM (Q+BiN)

290 276 261 Noem reportedly conscious in the hospital, talking to her security team.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (qpyNK)

That's nice, but also strange. Why are THEY the ones she's talking to? THAT kind of makes it sound like she was attacked, and is acting as a witness to it.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:44 PM (hOOi9)

If she'd been attacked, there's no way that could have been kept quiet. But maybe Padilla went back for seconds.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 05:46 PM (uWKK8)

291 > 246 Xwitter: Iran issue GLOBAL THREAT, "tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries."

They're going to make up for lost time by announcing Pride Year, or possibly Pride Decade. Khamenei will be coming out as trans. Pezeshkian will declare himself to be a male lesbian.

You heard it here first.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 05:46 PM (qpyNK)

292 What's the consensus on Ivan Reitman movies?

Generally positive.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:46 PM (e7kz6)

293 289
That's nice, but also strange. Why are THEY the ones she's talking to? THAT kind of makes it sound like she was attacked, and is acting as a witness to it.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:44 PM (hOOi9)

_________

The dog. It got its revenge.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 05:46 PM (Q+BiN)

Delayed onset mange…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:46 PM (PCK5/)

294 Reruns of Bob's Burgers

That's pretty much it for me.

Rewatched Tropic Thunder last weekend. Better than I remembered it being.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (2DqMj)

only thing I miss about not have network TV. Need to get an antenna. I miss Bob's Burgers.

you should binge watch Rules of Engagement on Tubi .

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:46 PM (VofaG)

295 >What's the consensus on Ivan Reitman movies?

Evolution had its moments.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:46 PM (lIio7)

296 "Battleship 2" anyone? Best remedy for insomnia.

It doesn’t deserve a sequel, but I enjoyed Battleship. Real feel-good movie, especially when they found a crew for the USS Missouri. Complete bullshit, but I loved it.

The connection with the board game, while it made vague sense (much like the Missouri…) didn’t do much either.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2025 05:47 PM (EXyHK)

297 265 Supposedly, Tom Cruise is interested in doing a Les Grossman movie. Maybe looking for a script, not sure.

les nessman > les grossman

Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2025 05:47 PM (sGtp+)

298 BREAKING: I’m told Secretary Kristi Noem had an allergic reaction. She was transported to the hospital out of an abundance of caution. She is alert and conscious.

yikes

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 05:47 PM (Pv3Rg)

299 That old creepy pervert and shitty "actor" Arnold Shwarzenegger went on The View, and they kept baiting him to trash ICE, but Arnold wasn't having it.

lol, the audience and panel were silent and miffed because they wanted Red Meat.
Posted by: Soothsaye

I fuck 'em. I don't deport them.
Posted by:Ahnold

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 05:47 PM (PfGa7)

300 Another truth that it wouldn't hurt the young to learn early: you get a raw deal in life but you have to get along with thing instead of sitting in your own midden whining about it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 05:41 PM (Q+BiN)

Not my usual sort of movie but "Where the Lilies Bloom" is a show where a hill family hides the death of the mother to keep the family together on their homestead.

it would be a good YA movie.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:47 PM (8avO+)

301 BREAKING: I’m told Secretary Kristi Noem had an allergic reaction. She was transported to the hospital out of an abundance of caution. She is alert and conscious.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (mlg/3)

when asked for comment, Kristi only said "The Bees! The Bees!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 05:47 PM (uWKK8)

302
That's nice, but also strange. Why are THEY the ones she's talking to? THAT kind of makes it sound like she was attacked, and is acting as a witness to it.
Posted by: MrExcitement

============

She was in the middle of something when she had an asthma attack or kidney stone and she's picking up where she left off.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:48 PM (wbZPZ)

303 This is why I'm so appalled that the Dems think gratuitous F bombs make them sound tough and serious. They sound like 13 year old boys.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (s8j++)
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The most tedious thing about freshmen at HS band camp was their need to swear even when it wasn't necessary. All the time. Yes, your parents aren't around, but get over it.

It was funny to see the sophomores act as the 'curse cops' because they were sick of this shit, having just done it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 17, 2025 05:48 PM (ZOv7s)

304 "Xwitter: Iran issue GLOBAL THREAT, "tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries.""

oh, no, someone found the kiloton grenade?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 05:48 PM (/Ghsb)

305 Rockets done. They made it to camera range and got intercepted. 20.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:48 PM (P9gC0)

306 201 I’ve not seen a mind boggling, amazing, holy shit that was GREAT, movie in decades.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 05:33 PM (OG98j)

While not the above reactions, the best movie on Amazon, at a recent time I needed peace, was "Surprised by Oxford."

I ordered the book of the same title for the trip two weeks ago, by Carolyn Weber. She was an agnostic who won a scholarship to Oxford and life changed. Great writer, great interweaving of C.S. Lewis and the Romantics of English literature. I simply loved reading it every night before bed to the symphony of my husband's snores.

Seriously, I loved both the movie and book. The book is possibly one of the best I have read in a long time...and I always have a book on me since our son's soccer practice.

For wicked recent book laughs I liked Jojo Moyes "One Plus One" in the last month. Snort laughs trying not to wake my husband at times. She wrote others and one that became a movie, "Me Before You" that was good on Amazon. I liked the actor in it and saw some of his movies (name escapes me).

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 05:48 PM (6PCLE)

307 You cannot do a Les Grossman movie of just him BUT you could do a movie of them trying to make a sequel to Tropic Thunder and him trying to make it work. He can't be the star, but he can be a major side character.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:48 PM (e7kz6)

308 They could remake (and finish) The Tripods.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 05:48 PM (63Dwl)

309 I have never not gotten laid after watching the Princess Bride.

Cary Elwes must get the old motor running.

Or Andre the Giant.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 17, 2025 05:48 PM (73voq)

310 290 276 261 Noem reportedly conscious in the hospital, talking to her security team.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 05:42 PM (qpyNK)

Did deranged Democrat senator get spit on her?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (kTd/k)

311 Another truth that it wouldn't hurt the young to learn early: you get a raw deal in life but you have to get along with thing instead of sitting in your own midden whining about it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Bonus points for using "midden".

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (s8j++)

312 281 Noem reportedly conscious in the hospital, talking to her security team.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

================

My bet: kidney stone

kidney stone > oliver stone

Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (sGtp+)

313 That old creepy pervert and shitty "actor" Arnold Shwarzenegger went on The View, and they kept baiting him to trash ICE, but Arnold wasn't having it.

Somehow he managed to not say "fuck your freedoms" the whole time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (e7kz6)

314 285 @libsoftiktok
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58s
BREAKING: I’m told Secretary Kristi Noem had an allergic reaction. She was transported to the hospital out of an abundance of caution. She is alert and conscious.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (mlg/3)

Well that's good. But why is that NEWS, and why wasn't that included in the first announcement. WTF.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (hOOi9)

315 > I really loved The Princess Bride.

Same. It annoys me Rob Reiner directed it, but he did a good job.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (lIio7)

316
Another truth that it wouldn't hurt the young to learn early: you get a raw deal in life but you have to get along with thing instead of sitting in your own midden whining about it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

================

That's why Disney movies like Bambi and Old Yeller are family entertainment. Those movies have very difficult lessons for kids.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (wbZPZ)

317 It doesn’t deserve a sequel, but I enjoyed Battleship. Real feel-good movie, especially when they found a crew for the USS Missouri. Complete bullshit, but I loved it.

The connection with the board game, while it made vague sense (much like the Missouri…

didn’t do much either.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2025 05:47 PM (EXyHK)
——-

I also liked it. No woke bullshit, very pro military. Some really good action too.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (GCyOY)

318 Malcolm in the Midden… good show..

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (PCK5/)

319 Naked gun might work since LN1 was a serious dramatic actor turned straight man for comedy like LN2.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (cduTK)

320 only really dark movie I liked was The Human Stain with Anthony Hopkins and Nicole Kidman.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (VofaG)

321 Brightburn is a good evil Superman tale.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (jc0TO)

322 "Battleship 2" anyone? Best remedy for insomnia.

It doesn’t deserve a sequel, but I enjoyed Battleship. Real feel-good movie, especially when they found a crew for the USS Missouri. Complete bullshit, but I loved it.

The connection with the board game, while it made vague sense (much like the Missouri…

didn’t do much either.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2025 05:47 PM (EXyHK)

Another oddball series is the Ayes of Texas where some crippled vets are hired by a billionaire to refit the old Texas battleship to defeat the Russian fleet in Houston Harbor. They even secede from the Union.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (8avO+)

323 Rumor is that its an allergic reaction that sent Noem to the hospital.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (e7kz6)

324 Look, I watch a trailer for a comedy, and I need to laugh a couple of times, hard.

And I did.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (gDhA9)

325 Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan has entered Chat

"From Hell's heart I spit at thee."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (BNLtx)

326 Iran issue GLOBAL THREAT, "tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries."

The mullahs are going to put out a Bollywood musical?

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (gKWVE)

327 So it's a movie thread?

Posted by: Just got here at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (y/iut)

328 301 BREAKING: I’m told Secretary Kristi Noem had an allergic reaction. She was transported to the hospital out of an abundance of caution. She is alert and conscious.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:45 PM (mlg/3)

when asked for comment, Kristi only said "The Bees! The Bees!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 05:47 PM (uWKK

Poor lady. I am allergic to air. I read last week in the UK DM of a friend of Prince William's dying due to swallowing a bee during polo. I say that Brit Like, eh? Unsure if he was on a horse or one got into his champagne on the sidelines, but a a horrible way to go.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (6PCLE)

329 Well that's good. But why is that NEWS, and why wasn't that included in the first announcement. WTF.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (hOOi9)

Because they didn't know. Not the press and likely not her team either.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (8avO+)

330 Yeah, Brightburn was good. I didn't want to see it, because the Gunn brothers annoy me, but I talked myself into it and ended up enjoying it.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (gKWVE)

331 Wrath of Khan was obviously way better than The Motion Picture.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (ITkJX)

332 Yes, cartoons and entertain aimed at kids can be very good. The first ten minutes of the Pixar film "Up" is as moving as anything I've seen on the big screen. (The rest of the movie, not so much.)

Posted by: Nemo at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (4RPgu)

333 327 So it's a movie thread?
Posted by: Just got here at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (y/iut)

They tried geopolitics for a minute, but got thrown out…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (PCK5/)

334 Where's the rest of it?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (P9gC0)

335 Have they done SpiderWoman yet, where Spiderwoman forces Spiderman to impregnate her, then she kills him?

That would be so awesome, and empowering (for oppressed women).

Posted by: illiniwek at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (vbXSk)

336 >>>, here's Jennifer Love Hewitt's big dramatic moment:

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (lIio7)

She certainly has grown, as an actress.

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (144I4)

337 It doesn’t deserve a sequel, but I enjoyed Battleship. Real feel-good movie, especially when they found a crew for the USS Missouri. Complete bullshit, but I loved it.

The connection with the board game, while it made vague sense (much like the Missouri… didn’t do much either.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2025 05:47 PM (EXyHK)
——-

I also liked it. No woke bullshit, very pro military. Some really good action too.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (GCyOY)
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Well deserved bad reviews but still entertaining.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (tT6L1)

338 323 Rumor is that its an allergic reaction that sent Noem to the hospital.

I volunteer to suck the poison out. (Bananas)

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (73voq)

339 It annoys me Rob Reiner directed it, but he did a good job.

Reiner is a gigantic idiot but he was able to do some amazingly great stuff like Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, Stand By Me, Sure Thing, This Is Spinal Tap, and of course Princess Bride.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (e7kz6)

340 237
𝗡𝗶𝗼𝗵 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗴 ♛ ✡︎
@NiohBerg
The regime has cut off the entire internet across Iran.

Last time they did this in 2019, they proceeded to massacre over 7000 people in just one weekend.

Pray.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (TGPs7)

Musk has already turned on StarLink...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (mP0Kj)

341 Rumor is that its an allergic reaction that sent Noem to the hospital.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (e7kz6)
——-

She caught Padilla’s skanky fag cooties

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (GCyOY)

342 Movie that surprised me how much I liked it was JoJo Rabbit.

I should have known I would have liked it because it had Sam Rockwell in it. I think he's in my top five actors now.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (VofaG)

343
Ace said he enjoyed entries from well-juiced fruits.

Noted.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (BI5O2)

344 Well they did that alternate universe Spiderman animated movie with Spider Gwen in it. But Miles was still the web-slinger.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (BNLtx)

345 Being reported: Secy Noem has an allergic reaction to Tom Homans feet.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (/U5Yz)

346 The aliens in Battleship would have won if their ROE wasn't written by the US State Department.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (jc0TO)

347 313, kind of amazing, really.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (/Ghsb)

348
I think a lot of NERDS!!! are a little embarrassed that they like entertainment which is made for kids or made to at least be kid-friendly because that would suggest they're immature.

Not quite. They're embarrassed that they grew up liking their comic book male superheros in tight, ass-hugging spandex, and they're afraid that they might be ghey.

Which is why I liked horror comics, war comics (like Sgt Rock) and Jonah Hex.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (y9nCu)

349 342 Movie that surprised me how much I liked it was JoJo Rabbit.

I should have known I would have liked it because it had Sam Rockwell in it. I think he's in my top five actors now.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (VofaG)

Everything he acts is good… his part in Galaxy Quest was awesome…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (PCK5/)

350 The first ten minutes of the Pixar film "Up" is as moving as anything I've seen on the big screen. (The rest of the movie, not so much.)

Yeah that should have just been an animated short, its a terrific intro and just meandering meh for the rest of the movie. The dog's first scene is great then there's no reason for it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (e7kz6)

351 Princess Bride isn't really a kid's movie.

It's for all ages.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (fV+MH)

352 324 Look, I watch a trailer for a comedy, and I need to laugh a couple of times, hard.

And I did.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (gDhA9)

Find the Seinfeld where George, due to a sinus infection, seeks out a Kramer recommended hololistic healer vs surgery. I came close to expiring laughing the first two times (pre taping the show). Did not hear the actual dialogue of the part that did me in til I saw it the third time. Then I was stifling a laugh snort.

Now we make up our own dialogues to make me laugh watching series on tv.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (6PCLE)

353 I personally do not care for movies where the evil wins and there is literally nothing to be done about it.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:29 PM (jc0TO)

If I wanted that I'd just watch the news.

Posted by: It's supposed to be respite from real life at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (TbWk/)

354 Iran's Shah, Jr. (or whatever the Shah equivalent of crown prince is) is dropping not-so-subtle hints on X that he's tanned, ready, and rested, and is looking forward to sitting down on the Peacock Throne.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (qpyNK)

355 Iranian State TV is making some bold threats.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (P9gC0)

356 > 246 Xwitter: Iran issue GLOBAL THREAT, "tonight, a great surprise will occur, one that the world will remember for centuries."

Twelfth Imam finally shows up?

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 05:54 PM (aBgBM)

357 Speaking of Rockwell, I just watch another of his movies I never heard of before.

Mr. Right

excellent. Ill be watching it again in a few months

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:54 PM (VofaG)

358 >>

that was a good bit but I think the reasoning was: That existed mostly to provide a background for Ripley's extreme determination to save Newt. But they realized they don't really need to explain why Ripley wants to save an innocent little girl, so why include it?

They also cut the Hadley's Hope stuff in the beginning, because that was there to humanize Newt and to show how terrible it was that she lost her family. They reasoned, people will like Newt with or without backstory and also we don't need a 10-minute section of film to prove to the audience that a slaughter of people by aliens is bad.

They cut the automatic sentry guns because Cameron realized: It's robots versus insect aliens, who cares, what are the stakes? Whether the guns can preserve their ammo or not?
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (KRtlO

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I hadnt thought about those other two cuts. The Hadleys Hope bit was good too. I never thought the movie lacked pace by including those, but of course there werent commercials in the theatre. Still, the daughter angle reverberates throughout the narrative if its included. Otherwise you dont even know she's a mom.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 05:54 PM (wzAuc)

359 351 Princess Bride isn't really a kid's movie.

It's for all ages.
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (fV+MH)

LOVE that movie!!!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 05:54 PM (6PCLE)

360 350 The first ten minutes of the Pixar film "Up" is as moving as anything I've seen on the big screen. (The rest of the movie, not so much.)

Yeah that should have just been an animated short, its a terrific intro and just meandering meh for the rest of the movie. The dog's first scene is great then there's no reason for it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (e7kz6)

Outstanding movie…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:54 PM (PCK5/)

361 "I do not like the Cone Of Shame."

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 05:54 PM (gKWVE)

362 351 Princess Bride isn't really a kid's movie.

It's for all ages.
Posted by: eleven

I liked Princess Bride.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Who Is NOT Gay at June 17, 2025 05:54 PM (/U5Yz)

363 It's good to be King.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:54 PM (P9gC0)

364 315 > I really loved The Princess Bride.

Same. It annoys me Rob Reiner directed it, but he did a good job.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (lIio7)

reading between the lines of cast interviews... he pretty much just got the hell out of the way.

Like the Miricle Max stuff was almost all ad lib...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 05:54 PM (mP0Kj)

365 Everything he acts is good… his part in Galaxy Quest was awesome…

Sam Rockwell is great in everything. He was even good in Charlie's Angels 2. Those are kind of guilty pleasures for me. I know that objectively they are terrible but ... I still like them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (e7kz6)

366 Musk has already turned on StarLink...
Posted by: Romeo13

I just wonder how many have dishes.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (PfGa7)

367 355 Iranian State TV is making some bold threats.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:53 PM (P9gC0)

I hope it ends live like the woman who fled when the ashes surrounded her martyr self.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (6PCLE)

368 Twelfth Imam finally shows up?

Israel should hijack the airwaves in Tehran to have a RuPaul version of the 12th Iman climb out of a well and shake the booty.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (BNLtx)

369 Speaking of fiction...

@SCOTUSblog 3h
New on SCOTUSblog: Justices’ financial disclosures reveal Justice Jackson earned over $2 million in book advances

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (mlg/3)

370 Well that's good. But why is that NEWS, and why wasn't that included in the first announcement. WTF.

We're journalists, not askers-of-questions!

Posted by: The MFM at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (STfYR)

371 I just want more of those 1980s dark fantasy movies like "Neverending Story", "Return to Oz", and "Labyrinth"
A lost art since then

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (gKWVE)

372 I also liked it. No woke bullshit, very pro military. Some really good action too.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (GCyOY)

Well deserved bad reviews but still entertaining.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 05:52 PM (tT6L1)

Yup. I can understand the bad reviews, but it’s fun and satisfying. I’ve watched it twice so far, once on my own and once with my dad. And I expect to watch it at least one more time.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (EXyHK)

373 318 Malcolm in the Midden… good show..

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM

Funny show. My favorite was when Hal and Lois accidentally found a second bathroom in their house they never knew they had because when they moved in it got filled with boxes 15 years previously.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (IifOV)

374 Old Yeller are family entertainment. Those movies have very difficult lessons for kids.

We told the kids we had to take gramps to the farm upstate where we took old shep.

Still remember him in the rear view mirror trying to run after us.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (5cMXi)

375 365 Everything he acts is good… his part in Galaxy Quest was awesome…

Sam Rockwell is great in everything. He was even good in Charlie's Angels 2. Those are kind of guilty pleasures for me. I know that objectively they are terrible but ... I still like them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (e7kz6)

It is legitimate to be merely entertained, in my world…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (PCK5/)

376 Anne Burrell, known for hosting, "The Worst Cooks in America" has reportedly died at 55. That's way too young.

http://tiny.cc/eo7n001

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (lIio7)

377 5 missiles got through apparently.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (P9gC0)

378 Wrath of Khan was obviously way better than The Motion Picture.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (ITkJX)

In a way I don't consider it a sequel, but starting the movies over with a new, action based story.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (8avO+)

379 329 Well that's good. But why is that NEWS, and why wasn't that included in the first announcement. WTF.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:49 PM (hOOi9)

Because they didn't know. Not the press and likely not her team either.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (8avO+)

Fair enough.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (hOOi9)

380 Big Talking Persian: "Ooh, baby, I'm gonna make love to you all night, baby, it's just not gonna stop baby, we're gonna come together when the sun rises baby..."

30 seconds later: Comes on goat's leg, rolls over and immediately falls asleep.

Posted by: Big Talking Persians at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (qUkBO)

381 It is legitimate to be merely entertained, in my world…
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM

This.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (jc0TO)

382 > Cary Elwes must get the old motor running.

Or Andre the Giant.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 17, 2025 05:48 PM (73voq)

Hey, what about me?

Posted by: Vizzini at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (qpyNK)

383 Global threat?? They don't even have control over their own skies.

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (nQcpu)

384 366 Musk has already turned on StarLink...
Posted by: Romeo13

I just wonder how many have dishes.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (PfGa7)

If'n our CIA is smart (doubtful) they are smuggling links in.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (mP0Kj)

385 367, that would be awesome!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (/Ghsb)

386 Wrath of Khan was obviously way better than The Motion Picture.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (ITkJX)

I believe TMP was rushed since Star Wars had just come out and the new network idea the owners had for their ST sequel series wasn't going anywhere. So they took all the production costs from ST Phase II, took an old idea that Roddenberry had which was stupid, and ran it though to cash in on the Soft ScFi Bux.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (xTinh)

387 In a way I don't consider it a sequel, but starting the movies over with a new, action based story.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (8avO+)

Like how they implicitly timetraveled Chekov into the first season?

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (gKWVE)

388 Ironheart - it debuted in Marvel comics in 2016. It was the 45th best selling comic book in November 2018.

So...how did this shit get a movie?

"In a 2019 storyline, Riri is startled to learn that her android teammate Viv Vision has developed a crush on her, which initially revolts her due to internalized homophobia. However, when Riri is about to destroy Viv, it is the latter's honest apology for not considering her feelings finally makes her acknowledge Viv's affection."

Seriously. I'd rather watch ROM Space knight the move that this garbage.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (gDhA9)

389 I like The Princess Bride. I do. But the kid from The Wonder Years is a snotty little prick. I'd like to see the Cenobites show up and read him the book of Revelation.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (UGyV5)

390 383 Global threat?? They don't even have control over their own skies.
Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (nQcpu)

They gonna release Covid 25?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (mP0Kj)

391 In case anyone ever doubted that Iranian mullahs are nuking futs.

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 05:58 PM (nQcpu)

392 354 Iran's Shah, Jr. (or whatever the Shah equivalent of crown prince is) is dropping not-so-subtle hints on X that he's tanned, ready, and rested, and is looking forward to sitting down on the Peacock Throne.

If he's smart, he'll do like Juan Carlos did in Spain, after Franco was finally dead for the last time. Basically, he should say "I'm just here to manage the transition to a democracy / republic." Ain't nobody really wants a permanent king in this day and age.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 05:58 PM (s8j++)

393 Return to Oz was a depressing movie, if I am remembering the right one that starred Balk as Dorothy.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:58 PM (BNLtx)

394 >>I personally do not care for movies where the evil wins and there is literally nothing to be done about it.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:29 PM (jc0TO)

IIRC, the film industry's self-imposed production code or morals code, prohibited movies with the bad guys winning and getting away, then roll the credits. Obviously began being ignored or was removed from the code in the Sixties.

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 05:58 PM (aBgBM)

395 What this country needs is a remake of It's a Mad mad mad mad world!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 05:58 PM (nLeCA)

396 Well, I hope so, it sounds uncomfortable for two men

@visegrad24 5m
BREAKING:

Trump and Netanyahu just got off the phone

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:58 PM (mlg/3)

397 Yup. I can understand the bad reviews, but it’s fun and satisfying. I’ve watched it twice so far, once on my own and once with my dad. And I expect to watch it at least one more time.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (EXyHK)

The long form reviews usually described as movie trashers gave it more or less your review. Brought up some issues with the plot and such, but mostly called it decent.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (8avO+)

398 Wrath of Khan was obviously way better than The Motion Picture.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (ITkJX)

In a way I don't consider it a sequel, but starting the movies over with a new, action based story.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (8avO+)

Roddenberry was famous for wanting more "cerebral" stories for ST when the audience really just wanted Kirk to blow things up then fuck the alien chick.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (xTinh)

399 378 Wrath of Khan was obviously way better than The Motion Picture.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 05:51 PM (ITkJX)

In a way I don't consider it a sequel, but starting the movies over with a new, action based story.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (8avO+)

Yeah, in the first one they spent half the movie assembling the old crew, and twenty minutes gawking at the Enterprise.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (hOOi9)

400 I liked UP also. That first part was good.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (P9gC0)

401 "In a 2019 storyline, Riri is startled to learn that her android teammate Viv Vision has developed a crush on her, which initially revolts her due to internalized homophobia. However, when Riri is about to destroy Viv, it is the latter's honest apology for not considering her feelings finally makes her acknowledge Viv's affection."

Seriously. I'd rather watch ROM Space knight the move that this garbage.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (gDhA9)

Dumb too... as an Android just swap some body parts out and... Hetero!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (mP0Kj)

402 393 Return to Oz was a depressing movie, if I am remembering the right one that starred Balk as Dorothy.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:58 PM (BNLtx)

Yeah, and Balk didn't sing. But otherwise she was a spot-on Judy Garland.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (gKWVE)

403 The Winning Season is another Rockwell movie I never heard of that I recently watched. Him coaching a rag tag HS girls basketball team.

I also though excellent.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (VofaG)

404 One day, Superman, while flying over Gotham City, he spots Wonder Woman below on a building rooftop, stark naked and lying with her arms and legs spread apart. He circles a couple of times and then unable to control himself, he fly's down like a speeding bullet and he lands and hammers her hard and fast, and in the blink of an eye he flies away and back on patrol again. Meanwhile, back on the rooftop, Wonder Woman sits up and says, "What the hell was that?" And the Invisible Man says, "Not sure, but it really hurt!"

Posted by: Statman at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (Kj6RJ)

405 Or even more simple explanation, Sulu and others welcomed Chekov aboard by telling him stories of his new Captain to scare Pavel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:00 PM (BNLtx)

406 I like The Cat From Outer Space.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 06:00 PM (/U5Yz)

407 The Iranian regime just released this video of someone stroking a nuclear bomb.

Posted by: Mister Ghost

-----------------------------

That's a typo. The goat's name is Anu Clairb Ahmb

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 17, 2025 06:00 PM (144I4)

408 395 What this country needs is a remake of It's a Mad mad mad mad world!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 05:58 PM (nLeCA)

Not enough big Hollywood Comedy Stars to recreate that...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:00 PM (mP0Kj)

409 Roddenberry was famous for wanting more "cerebral" stories for ST when the audience really just wanted Kirk to blow things up then fuck the alien chick.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (xTinh)

Ironic, considering he was banging the female members of the cast.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 06:00 PM (hOOi9)

410 What this country needs is a remake of It's a Mad mad mad mad world!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 05:58 PM (nLeCA)

Don't think they could pull off a crazy chase movie, the administration in the studios are too pervasive and controlling.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:00 PM (8avO+)

411 There is only one Frank Drebin.
There is only one James Bond.
There is only one Sarah Conner.
There is only one Ripley.
There is only one Chris (Magnificent Seven).
There is only on Joe Friday.
There is only one Inspector Clouseau.
There is only one Mad Max.
There is only one Dirty Harry.
There is only one John Shaft.
That's an OK start.

Posted by: goatexchange at June 17, 2025 06:01 PM (hyS0X)

412 Yeah, in the first one they spent half the movie assembling the old crew, and twenty minutes gawking at the Enterprise.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (hOOi9)

yeah but I was a 70's fanboy and I had waited for 10 years to gawk at the Enterprise for 20 minutes. I loved it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 06:01 PM (uWKK8)

413
These days even the heady Oscar-bait dramas and biopics and arthouse stuff is infantile pablum for retards.

You can't really throw stones at anything and say it's childish and lowbrow. Everything is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2025 06:02 PM (BI5O2)

414 I liked Cars 2 better than Cars.

Finn McMissile: "I never properly introduced myself. Finn McMissile, British Intelligence."

Mater: "Tow Mater, Average Intelligence."

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 06:02 PM (PiwSw)

415 I never liked Chekov partly because of his stupid speech impediment that made him unable to say his own name (??) but after seeing him as Bester in Babylon 5 playing the sinister psi agent... damn he's good.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:02 PM (e7kz6)

416 Twelfth Imam finally shows up?

Uh… How are we for time?

Posted by: Zarquon at June 17, 2025 06:02 PM (EXyHK)

417 For Wrath they managed to keep Roddenberry from writing the story.

TMP was too much a recycle of Nomad plus a story for the aborted Phase II series.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:03 PM (BNLtx)

418 Being called a nerd bothers me so little, I wrote a 2000 word essay on it.

Posted by: TLDR at June 17, 2025 06:03 PM (S1GR4)

419 I just did a quick painting of Dorothy's house when she returns from Oz and laying in the bed with everyone surrounding her. Its a painting of the outside of the house in black and white with the flying monkey in color on top of the roof.

I titled it 'It Wasn't a Dream'

not my best but it took me about an hour to complete.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:03 PM (VofaG)

420 That's an OK start.

There's only one Blade. There's only ever going to be one Blade.

yeah but I was a 70's fanboy and I had waited for 10 years to gawk at the Enterprise for 20 minutes. I loved it.

Yeah that was just straight fan service and believe me in the theater as a teenage boy it was everything I always ever wanted.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:03 PM (e7kz6)

421 In a way I don't consider it a sequel, but starting the movies over with a new, action based story.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (8avO+)

Like how they implicitly timetraveled Chekov into the first season?
Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (gKWVE)

I heard that handwaved away as him being on another shift / in a lesser duty station on the ship.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:03 PM (8avO+)

422 I never liked Chekov partly because of his stupid speech impediment that made him unable to say his own name (??) but after seeing him as Bester in Babylon 5 playing the sinister psi agent... damn he's good.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:02 PM (e7kz6)

Koenig is great. Really.

Chekov exists because Roddenberry wanted a character in the cast to draw in younger viewers, so he cast a kid who looked like one of the Monkees. For real.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 06:04 PM (xTinh)

423 As pure entertainment goes, I hold "The Fifth Element" as great example.

Posted by: Halfhand at June 17, 2025 06:04 PM (xk/GE)

424 Yeah that was just straight fan service and believe me in the theater as a teenage boy it was everything I always ever wanted.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:03 PM (e7kz6)

Me too, but I knew at the time this wouldn't help it with the normies.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:05 PM (8avO+)

425 Walter had to wear a Monkees style wig for the start of his time until his hair grew out.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:05 PM (BNLtx)

426 The Amateur was a really good movie.
Not a remake, that I'm aware of...

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 17, 2025 06:05 PM (7NkZG)

427 That's an OK start.

And they walk into a bar...

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 06:05 PM (xzb+D)

428 There is only one Man With No Name. (Even though he had a name in the credits for "For a Few Dollars More." Trivia!)

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 06:05 PM (aBgBM)

429 72 years since the East Berlin uprising.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 06:05 PM (vm8sq)

430 "What this country needs is a remake of It's a Mad mad mad mad world!
Posted by: OrangeEnt
"

You really want these incompetent mooks ruining that masterpiece?

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 06:05 PM (fV+MH)

431 405 Or even more simple explanation, Sulu and others welcomed Chekov aboard by telling him stories of his new Captain to scare Pavel.

'cept that doesn't explain khan's "but you... i never forget a face" line.

Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2025 06:05 PM (sGtp+)

432 I got distracted and was regretfully unable to respond to quips+

>>>>This kind of thing has happened before, to great Western excitement about the fall of the Mullahs. Then the Mullahs regroup, put down the nascent rebellion, slaughter the enemies and move right along.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

This happens only if they continue to live. (hint, hint)

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:06 PM (Ffc+8)

433 389 I like The Princess Bride. I do. But the kid from The Wonder Years is a snotty little prick. I'd like to see the Cenobites show up and read him the book of Revelation.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 05:57 PM (UGyV5)

Everybody does. It's so light-hearted and clever, with a bit of romance, of course.

So it's funny if you think about it. Our hero Wesley is literally a pirate, who makes his living robbing other ships, possibly killing people in the process. Just goes to show how one shouldn't really think such things through.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 06:06 PM (hOOi9)

434 428 There is only one Man With No Name. (Even though he had a name in the credits for "For a Few Dollars More." Trivia!)

let me guess: "irving, the 142nd fastest gun in the west"

Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2025 06:06 PM (sGtp+)

435 I never liked Chekov partly because of his stupid speech impediment that made him unable to say his own name (??) but after seeing him as Bester in Babylon 5 playing the sinister psi agent... damn he's good.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:02 PM (e7kz6)

I liked the dig at the Russians his 'thing' was. Pretty funny in the cold war.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:06 PM (8avO+)

436 I personally do not care for movies where the evil wins and there is literally nothing to be done about it.
Posted by: toby928
_________

No Country for Old Men?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 06:07 PM (ITkJX)

437 I got distracted and was regretfully unable to respond to quips+

>>>>This kind of thing has happened before, to great Western excitement about the fall of the Mullahs. Then the Mullahs regroup, put down the nascent rebellion, slaughter the enemies and move right along.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

This happens only if they continue to live. (hint, hint)

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:06 PM

It always boils down to who controls the Army.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 06:07 PM (jc0TO)

438 "I'm sick and tired of NERDS!!! demanding that superhero movies or any other juvenile fare be "dark" and "grim and gritty" and "realistic" and hyperviolent and filled with cursing."

So. Back in the '90s, DC did a series that overall was called The Breaking of the Bat. Bane, a new supervillian, found Batman's lair, ambushed him, and then snapped his spine. Over the next, I dunno, year or so, they did a grim'n'gritty series about Bruce Wayne finding someone to be the new Batman while he went off to figure out how to restore his spine, etc. The new Batman was dark, gradually went insane, and wound up doing a bunch of stuff Batman Would Never Do. In the end, Bruce fought him in the batcave to take back the mantle.

After the saga and its aftermath was over, they printed a bunch of letters complaining about how dark and grim the storyline was, and wrote a simple response: "you said you wanted a darker Batman, and we gave you one."

Posted by: Rick C at June 17, 2025 06:07 PM (1zWbY)

439 hopefully, someone didn't know her allergies....very odd

Posted by: zigggggy at June 17, 2025 06:07 PM (K5Rdg)

440 I want to speak up for serious violence and consequences in superhero movies.

Stuff like Invincible (which I have my issues with) shows the awesome power of superheros and how much damage they can do. Which makes self control and virtue into real important qualities, worthy of emulation.

When the guy who can punch through an M1 Abrams tank keeps getting into punching matches with mafia types on the dock...it goes from fantasy land into silliness.

For me.

Give me awesome power and show me the consequences of awesome power.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (xcxpd)

441 Anachronda

They gave Khan access to Enterprise's library, crew roster would be there. It was there for Spock doing research on why Gary Mitchell was turning into a mini-god.

And yeah I am reaching I know it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (BNLtx)

442
Musk has already turned on StarLink...
Posted by: Romeo13

I just wonder how many have dishes.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 05:55 PM (PfGa7)

The evil Joos should be dumping pallets full of StarLink dishes over Tehran, Isfahan and Qom by little parachutes. Bonus points if the box also contains Liberator pistols.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (y9nCu)

443 Bester in B5 is a great villian. He's complicated.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (AcTAo)

444 413, bingo, YD!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (/Ghsb)

445 Can't comment on the "I didn't vote for your fucking queerbait RoN pAuL!!!-cum-Medea-Benjamin gaywad peacenik foreign policy" thread, so I'll just comment here.

BYE.

Posted by: PITA Expat at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (CK4Ox)

446 No Country for Old Men?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 06:07 PM

Life
Skeleton Key
Fallen
etc

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (jc0TO)

447 Television started sliding downhill after David Janssen died. Last movie I caught in the theater was Doctor Sleep, and that was 5 or 6 years ago; could probably count the number of movies I've seen in a theater in the last 20 years on my fingers and I'd have fingers left over.

When I was a kid, I could count on finding something enjoyable at the theater every week or two. Them days is long gone.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 17, 2025 06:09 PM (q3u5l)

448 So it's funny if you think about it. Our hero Wesley is literally a pirate, who makes his living robbing other ships, possibly killing people in the process. Just goes to show how one shouldn't really think such things through.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 06:06 PM (hOOi9)

See also: Rose in Titanic is the worst romantic heroine ever, if you think about it.

Posted by: sal at June 17, 2025 06:09 PM (f+FmA)

449 Bester was Earth's Tallyrand.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:09 PM (BNLtx)

450 I personally do not care for movies where the evil wins and there is literally nothing to be done about it.
Posted by: toby928

That's pretty much the entirety of French cinema. Man, woman, complain about the world while smoking Gauloises, make cynical love, then end.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 06:09 PM (xTinh)

451 428 There is only one Man With No Name. (Even though he had a name in the credits for "For a Few Dollars More." Trivia!)
Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 06:05 PM (aBgBM)

And only one Nobody... at least until they made a modern non Western Nobody... crap...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:10 PM (mP0Kj)

452 After the saga and its aftermath was over, they printed a bunch of letters complaining about how dark and grim the storyline was, and wrote a simple response: "you said you wanted a darker Batman, and we gave you one."

Yeah Knightfall, terrific series. They gave the bat-mantle to Azrael a really talented, gifted fighter who was koo koo bannanas, deliberately. Cutting out Robin, making him kill crazy and brutal. On purpose, because they wanted to show fans how they didn't really want Batman to be like that, and let them experience why.

Fans hated it so much that they had to cancel the story run early because the books sold so badly.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:10 PM (e7kz6)

453 See also: Rose in Titanic is the worst romantic heroine ever, if you think about it.
Posted by: sal at June 17, 2025 06:09 PM (f+FmA)

She's the most evil villain in all of cinematic history.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 06:10 PM (xTinh)

454 Can't comment on the "I didn't vote for your fucking queerbait RoN pAuL!!!-cum-Medea-Benjamin gaywad peacenik foreign policy" thread, so I'll just comment here.

BYE.
Posted by: PITA Expat at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (CK4Ox)

*holds up soggy gravy toast*

Wait! Your forgot your shingle!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 17, 2025 06:10 PM (0aYVJ)

455 I liked the dig at the Russians his 'thing' was. Pretty funny in the cold war.

I ran a game with the original Star Trek characters at the North Texas RPG Con a few weeks ago. The drawback for Chekov was:

Russians Invented It: When faced with unfamiliar machines or technology, Chekov is hampered in understanding it because it is obviously what his ancestors created.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2025 06:10 PM (EXyHK)

456 Star Link makes dishes? I need some new dishes.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 06:10 PM (P9gC0)

457
It always boils down to who controls the Army.
Posted by: toby928
---------------------------------

Call them targets of opportunity.
We should drop thousands of Liberator-.45s over populated areas advising them to kill the oppressors and the Red Guard starting with the officers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:10 PM (Ffc+8)

458 Rose tossing the jewel overboard at the end, WTF?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:10 PM (BNLtx)

459 Stupid phone hard to use with shakey hand.

Can't remake mad world because nobody in Hollywood can do "fun" anymore.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 06:11 PM (nLeCA)

460 The Star Trek remake where they killed Pike instead of turning him into a vegetable really pissed me off more than it should have. It's like whatshisname was intentionally poking the original Star Trek fans in the eye.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:11 PM (VofaG)

461 Anachronda

They gave Khan access to Enterprise's library, crew roster would be there. It was there for Spock doing research on why Gary Mitchell was turning into a mini-god.

And yeah I am reaching I know it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (BNLtx)

Again. If Chekov was on the ship in a different shift or in a different duty station he might well have encountered Khan in person in any number of places and times. The one hour show there is lots of extra time between the scenes in 'reality'

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:11 PM (8avO+)

462 456 Star Link makes dishes? I need some new dishes.
Posted by: Boss Moss
------------------

Buy 5 dishes and receive two sets of matching silverware.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:11 PM (Ffc+8)

463 Maybe Liam Neeson can pull off the "dramatic actor in a surprise comedic role" like Leslie Nielsen did, but holy cow have people got to stop pretending Neeson can still do physical stunts. He looks terrible in that new trailer.

Posted by: Octochicken at June 17, 2025 06:12 PM (oCS0o)

464 The casting in Babylon Five was so inspired. Are you serious, you're casting the dude from Scarecrow and Mrs King to be the new captain????!?!?

...um, damn he's good.

All those eastern european actors they cast for the aliens, so good.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:12 PM (e7kz6)

465 453 See also: Rose in Titanic is the worst romantic heroine ever, if you think about it.
Posted by: sal at June 17, 2025 06:09 PM (f+FmA)

She's the most evil villain in all of cinematic history.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 06:10 PM (xTinh)

Yeah.... Rose... Jenny from Gump... lots of evil Women in movies when ya think on it a bit.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:12 PM (mP0Kj)

466 Rose...

We start off with her whining about the ship even though her fiancee has spent a lot of money getting them the best accommodations, then when everyone is trying to kick back and enjoy the cruise she does a faux suicide attempt so she can get attention, then lies about why she did it.

She has lunch where her mother asks her nicely to stop smoking then blows smoke in her face, then turns around and insults the fucking CHAIRMAN OF THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE BOAT.

Decides to cheat on her fiancee with this bum, doesn’t do anything to help keep him from being embarrassed at a fancy dinner, poses nude for some crappy sketch, then starts running around the ship and disrupting operations.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 06:12 PM (Qw3Dr)

467 Goes up and distracts the lookouts so they don’t notice the iceberg until it’s too late, then doesn’t speak up when the guy who cuckolded her fiancee is framed and handcuffed in the basement of the sinking ship.

Then when she gets a seat on a lifeboat, she jumps off which means someone else couldn’t use it. She follows this hobo around then when they’re in the water he finds a door that they can both fit on but she won’t scoot over for him, and won’t help him find another door he can use so he freezes to death and she shoves his corpse into the ocean. She then lets her mother and fiancee think she’s dead so she can go on and live some bohemian lifestyle.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 06:12 PM (Qw3Dr)

468 Cool

Bjo Trimble is still alive.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:13 PM (BNLtx)

469 Rose tossing the jewel overboard at the end, WTF?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:10 PM (BNLtx)

Her one night stand with ol Jack meant more than her life, her kids and grand kids. Bet they could have used that money at some point in the depression or WWII but she had to keep her loot.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:13 PM (8avO+)

470 464 The casting in Babylon Five was so inspired. Are you serious, you're casting the dude from Scarecrow and Mrs King to be the new captain????!?!?

...um, damn he's good.

All those eastern european actors they cast for the aliens, so good.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:12 PM (e7kz6)

Billy Mummy... outstanding Casting.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:13 PM (mP0Kj)

471 Then she hears about this guy who spent many years and a lot of money researching and exploring the wreck for a diamond, calls him and asks him if he found it EVEN THOUGH SHE DAMN WELL KNOWS IT’S NOT DOWN THERE, gets him to fly her and five hundred pounds of luggage to his boat where she spends two days telling this boring-ass story, doesn’t tell him she’s had the diamond all along AND NEVER TOLD ANYONE, even bringing it onto the guy’s boat. She finishes her stupid story, goes and throws this diamond into the water, then dies on this guy’s boat which then gives him a headache about what to do with the body.

Then she goes to heaven and decides that instead of her husband and the father of her children, she would rather spend eternity with some homeless street rat she had a one night stand with 80 years ago.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 06:13 PM (oLdT5)

472 Russians Invented It:

I like how they did a twist on that in Undiscovered Country with the Klingon quoting Shakespeare, then saying he's better in the original Klingon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:13 PM (e7kz6)

473 All those eastern european actors they cast for the aliens, so good.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:12 PM (e7kz6)

I think Bill Mumy only agreed to do his role because he thought it only be a one-time thing.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 06:13 PM (PiwSw)

474 Billy Mummy... outstanding Casting.

Yeah, you cast FLOUNDER?? But... he was so great.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:14 PM (e7kz6)

475 Yeah, I have an opinion about Rose.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 06:14 PM (oLdT5)

476 Can't comment on the "I didn't vote for your fucking queerbait RoN pAuL!!!-cum-Medea-Benjamin gaywad peacenik foreign policy" thread, so I'll just comment here.

BYE.
Posted by: PITA Expat at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (CK4Ox)

why did you have to post? just leave. Makes you look like a pussy retard wanting to flounce.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 06:14 PM (VofaG)

477 LahavHarkov
1h
Israeli national security advisor: Iran operation will not end without strike on Fordow nuclear facility.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:14 PM (Ffc+8)

478 @410

>> Don't think they could pull off a crazy chase movie, the administration in the studios are too pervasive and controlling.

More importantly, the comedic horsepower to pull of a movie of that type simply doesn’t exist.

You could try to go the opposite route and make it an actioner staring Denzel Washington and Daniel Day Lewis.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (DQZed)

479 Nood

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (GYt5+)

480 "The Star Trek remake where they killed Pike instead of turning him into a vegetable really pissed me off more than it should have. It's like whatshisname was intentionally poking the original Star Trek fans in the eye.
Posted by: polynikes"

I think JJ is just that stupid that he didn't know.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (fV+MH)

481 NOOD aliens

Posted by: Max Power at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (q177U)

482 Nood.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (PiwSw)

483 Then she hears about this guy who spent many years and a lot of money researching and exploring the wreck for a diamond, calls him and asks him if he found it EVEN THOUGH SHE DAMN WELL KNOWS IT’S NOT DOWN THERE, gets him to fly her and five hundred pounds of luggage to his boat where she spends two days telling this boring-ass story, doesn’t tell him she’s had the diamond all along AND NEVER TOLD ANYONE, even bringing it onto the guy’s boat. She finishes her stupid story, goes and throws this diamond into the water, then dies on this guy’s boat which then gives him a headache about what to do with the body.

Then she goes to heaven and decides that instead of her husband and the father of her children, she would rather spend eternity with some homeless street rat she had a one night stand with 80 years ago.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 06:13 PM

Well, when you put it that way..

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (jc0TO)

484 72 years since the East Berlin uprising.
Posted by: Cow Demon

The radio reminded me today that Toys in the Attic came out 50 years ago. Damn.

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (144I4)

485 Decides to cheat on her fiancee with this bum, doesn’t do anything to help keep him from being embarrassed at a fancy dinner, poses nude for some crappy sketch, then starts running around the ship and disrupting operations.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 06:12 PM (Qw3Dr)

My mom's 10 word or so analysis : an unmarried girl in those days wearing that make up would show her as a total slut.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 06:15 PM (8avO+)

486 Update on Iran's nuclear sites, per @rafaelmgrossi:

Natanz: Above-ground enrichment facility is "completely destroyed," electrical installations "taken out," underground centrifuges damaged

Isfahan: 3-4 buildings damaged, underground facilities appear unaffected

Fordow: no major damage other than "perimetral impacts"

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 06:16 PM (Ffc+8)

487 Yeah, Evil Womenz in Movies...

Dorothy, the Wiz of Oz... multiple murders over a pair of shoes...

Never could figure out why the Munchkins were scared of the Witch though.... THEY HAD MUSKETS!!! Shoot the shit out of her.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 06:16 PM (mP0Kj)

488
I personally do not care for movies where the evil wins and there is literally nothing to be done about it.
Posted by: toby928
_________

No Country for Old Men?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 06:07 PM (ITkJX)

Forrest Gump

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:16 PM (y9nCu)

489 447 Television started sliding downhill after David Janssen died. Last movie I caught in the theater was Doctor Sleep, and that was 5 or 6 years ago; could probably count the number of movies I've seen in a theater in the last 20 years on my fingers and I'd have fingers left over.

When I was a kid, I could count on finding something enjoyable at the theater every week or two. Them days is long gone.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 17, 2025 06:09 PM (q3u5l)

Harry-O was cancelled, even though the ratings were decent for....Charlies Angels....

Same here, I have seen 5 new movies in the theatres in the last 20 years....A reboot of Naked Gun? that might break the drought.

Posted by: zigggggy at June 17, 2025 06:17 PM (K5Rdg)

490
No Country for Old Men?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

============

No. It's just a movie about "there's evil and there's nothing you can do about it." That's ALL it is. It's not a great story with that extra fact in it. It was fake profundity to me, like lots of Cohen movies.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 06:17 PM (wbZPZ)

491 I like how they did a twist on that in Undiscovered Country with the Klingon quoting Shakespeare, then saying he's better in the original Klingon.

Undiscovered Country was one of the better original series movies, to my tastes. Also, Christopher Plummer as a Klingon was a treat.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 17, 2025 06:18 PM (EXyHK)

492 It's not just Hollywood. This is the left's take on all "fine arts." "Artists" get credit for _performing_, not for creating anything of value.

True creativity means intellectual property, and the left cannot -- must not -- recognize intellectual property.

Posted by: cpurick at June 17, 2025 06:18 PM (lNjg1)

493 My kid-self was right about a lot of things, and my teenaged self was too.

Wait -- so that means Phoebe Cates is still Queens of Boners?

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (pMi6S)

494
"The Star Trek remake where they killed Pike instead of turning him into a vegetable really pissed me off more than it should have. It's like whatshisname was intentionally poking the original Star Trek fans in the eye.
Posted by: polynikes"

Poking all of Western Civilization in the eye. That piece of shit movie is actually an Al Qaeda origin story.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 06:19 PM (y9nCu)

495 I am waiting for Armageddon II

Posted by: Kindltot at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM (D7oie)

496 488
I personally do not care for movies where the evil wins and there is literally nothing to be done about it.
Posted by: toby928

I understood it, but ruined Chinatown for me...
Also don't like it when 10 minutes in, you know the couple is doomed....bleh

Posted by: zigggggy at June 17, 2025 06:21 PM (K5Rdg)

497 395 What this country needs is a remake of It's a Mad mad mad mad world!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 05:58
PM (nLeCA)
Jonathan Winters is irreplaceable.

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 06:24 PM (LHPAg)

498 "I don't know if Superman will be any good. I kind of doubt it. I don't think I'll wind up seeing it."

Rants about the direction of superhero movies have taken but won't even bother going to see a film attempting something different. Say what you will about the nerds but give them superman cussing and ripping heads of and they'll actually go see it. Like if you aren't going to put your money down, why should your opinion matter more than the people who actually want to be entertained.

Personally I don't think super heroes, or comics are just for adults or kids. They are simply storied and should be dialed down to match the intended audience. I don't think Blade would have been a better movie if it aimed for a more child friendly tone and I don't think LOTR would be better if it had GOT gore and nudity. Knowing your audience and playing to their expectations is a whole lot more productive than this old man yells at clouds routine.

Posted by: Jack Krevin at June 17, 2025 06:25 PM (7dwIB)

499 >The original Superman was kid-friendly, but it was very well done.

The 1978 Superman was two movies smashed into one: a Superman version of the 1966 Batman TV show, and Mario Puzo going balls-to-the-wall with a Superman-as-Christ allegory. Top it all off with some award-winning special effects.

The seams between the two movies are rough and obvious, but neither one would have succeeded on its own.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 17, 2025 06:30 PM (xBngO)

500 let me guess: "irving, the 142nd fastest gun in the west"
Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2025 06:06 PM (sGtp+)

He didn't have to be fast, he just had to be bullet proof

Posted by: Kindltot at June 17, 2025 06:34 PM (D7oie)

501 Another oddball series is the Ayes of Texas where some crippled vets are hired by a billionaire to refit the old Texas battleship to defeat the Russian fleet in Houston Harbor. They even secede from the Union.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:50 PM (8avO+)

Eons ago I knew a friend of mine who read the series and it was bonkers. You are the second person I ever heard of who has heard of it/read it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM (vm8sq)

502 They gave Khan access to Enterprise's library, crew roster would be there. It was there for Spock doing research on why Gary Mitchell was turning into a mini-god.

And yeah I am reaching I know it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 06:08 PM (BNLtx)

I think Robert Meyer Burnett would agree.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 06:41 PM (vm8sq)

503 Wait -- so that means Phoebe Cates is still Queens of Boners?

Is this even in question?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 06:59 PM (e7kz6)

504 Me, I am done with Rocky sequels with Creeds, don't need another Rambo or Terminator. If I saw the first one in high school over 40 years ago, I can move on. Hollywood, you need to as well.

Posted by: jimmymcnulty at June 17, 2025 08:19 PM (iE/QL)

505 I have to agree with "I had the same kind of idea. That this kind of movie would be Even Betterer if it were "hardcore."

Imagine how much better The Wild Bunch would have been if William Holden had Deliveranced Ernest Borgnine just before their famous walk to the Bloody Porch

Posted by: sharps45 at June 17, 2025 09:11 PM (jiPFw)

506 77 50 > they certainly won't be remaking I Know What You Did Last Summer

In memory of that silly, but occasionally fun movie, here's Jennifer Love Hewitt's big dramatic moment:
youtube.com/watch?v=TNPR9U5MGwg&t=145s
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (lIio7)

Jennifer Love Hewitt… one of the cutest girls that God ever made..l

My best friend calls her Jennifer loves to do it

Posted by: sharps45 at June 17, 2025 09:23 PM (jiPFw)

Democrat NYC Comptroller and Mayoral Candidate Arrested for Attempting to Physically Block ICE from Arresting a Criminal Illegal
Update: Poll Shows Massive Support for ICE

The Democrats are claiming this was a Mostly Peaceful Violent Obstruction of Federal Officials.

The Democrats are engaging in a cynical, communist game of escalating violent confrontations with law enforcement. One of these days they're going to provoke one of their lunatics to kill ICE agents, or provoke ICE into beating the shit out of them.

New York City Comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander was arrested by federal agents at an immigration court Tuesday after he linked arms with a person that authorities were attempting to detain.
A reporter with The Associated Press witnessed Lander's arrest at a federal building in Manhattan. The person Lander was walking out of the courtroom was also arrested.
Lander had spent the morning observing immigration court hearings and told an AP reporter that he was there to "accompany" some immigrants out of the building.
New York City Comptroller Brad Lander is placed under arrest by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and FBI agents outside federal immigration court on Tuesday, June 17, 2025, in New York. (AP Photo/Olga Fedorova)
New York City Comptroller Brad Lander is placed under arrest by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and FBI agents outside federal immigration court on Tuesday, June 17, 2025, in New York. (AP Photo/Olga Fedorova)
In the moments before Lander was handcuffed, agents could be seen trying to physically separate him from the man they had come to detain. Lander briefly struggled to stay close to the detainee before he was pulled away. Video taken by journalists at the scene shows that agents struggled to separate Lander from the man he'd linked arms with for more than 40 seconds before wresting the two apart.
A video of the arrest captured by an AP reporter shows an agent telling Lander, "You're obstructing."
"I'm not obstructing, I'm standing right here in the hallway," Lander said as he was being handcuffed.

Didn't Do Nuffin. The Democrat/Antifa/BLM credo.

POLITICAL VIOLENCE: Democrats are becoming more and more violent with federal officers. NYC Comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander was arrested Tuesday by ICE agents while attempting to smuggle an illegal alien out of immigration court. He claimed that ICE… pic.twitter.com/QZX7DgJ1c3
— @amuse (@amuse) June 17, 2025

Tim Miller vs Reality. An ongoing series. pic.twitter.com/2kbj9tJTlv
— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) June 17, 2025

Update: The public supports ICE and deportations.

And they want the Democrat-Media Party's Mostly Peaceful Violent Street Paramilitaries prosecuted.

A new national survey reveals the widespread appeal of President Trump's law-and-order approach to immigration enforcement.
Americans reject street violence and insist that only legal, vetted migration be permitted into our homeland.
Perhaps most tellingly, Americans overwhelmingly believe that those who use violence and interfere with law enforcement deportation operations must face criminal charges.
When asked specifically about this kind of violence in Los Angeles recently, 68% said the violators must be prosecuted. Only 21% deem such charges as "not important." Among men, 74% believe in criminal consequences, and only 18% disagree. In addition, nearly two-thirds of Hispanics (64%) demand these prosecutions.
Importantly, this poll began last Monday, June 9, just after the weekend of violence and mayhem in Los Angeles. The public feud between President Trump and Gov. Gavin Newsom of California was ongoing during the polling period of June 9-11, making this survey an especially useful barometer of public sentiment during this tension.

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1 First?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (ZOk/W)

2
Rikers Island is nice at this time of year.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (QnmlO)

3 Talk about a one trick pony, that's all these democrats have that are running for office.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (e5NfL)

4 Every Democrat with ambition is going to arrange to get arrested.

It will escalate.

The 2028 Democrat primary will include someone in jail for murdering an immigration judge. They will raise $10 million.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

5 he was "escorting" him in the way a mule "escorts" drugs across the border.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (G1EQj)

6 Brad, you are much too old to be LARPing the Struggle.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (PFbvp)

7 To the tombs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (P9gC0)

8
Had a leisurely read of the content, so I relinquished the First that was rightly mine. You're welcome.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (QnmlO)

9 New York City Comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander was arrested by federal agents at an immigration court Tuesday after he linked arms with a person that authorities were attempting to detain.
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I think that in "the biz," they call this a "twofer."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (6bTRc)

10 5 he was "escorting" him in the way a mule "escorts" drugs across the border.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (G1EQj)

=======

I believe this is why that lady judge was arrested.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

11 Brad Lander is the NYC Jewish version of that sloppy Padilla creep in CA. They even look alike. Put a taco in Lander's mouth, or gefilte fish in Padilla's, and I doubt anyone could tell them apart.

I thought Lander was a fag. But:

"Brad lives with his wife, Meg Barnette, in Brooklyn where they raised two children, Marek and Rosa, both of whom graduated from NYC public schools. He loves Prospect Park, CUNY graduations, street food, and is a proud season ticket holder for the New York Liberty."

Yea, he's a fag all right.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)

12 Brad Lander in 2024
"No one is above the law."

http://tiny.cc/0e7n001

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (lIio7)

13
Was Fat Alvin Bragg there?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 03:49 PM (QnmlO)

14 It’s one thing when Antifa takes to the streets, being misguided young kaaksukkas with too much time on their hands….

But when old dudes who wear suits to their jobs do this shit, it isn’t a good look.

I know, I know, their dwindling base eats it up… but still

Have some self respect facciabrutta.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:49 PM (PFbvp)

15 Should have arrested Padilla.

Noem never should have agreed to talk with him after his stunt.

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (u5B+T)

16 Oops! The guy slipped! I tried to keep him from falling down the stairs, but my billy club hit him in the face. Five times.

Posted by: ICE Agent at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (0eaVi)

17 Theory:

Some small part of this is that Democrats think Trump's increased popularity with blacks is his status as a felon, so they're trying to replicate that individually for street cred.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (GBKbO)

18 I see a win-win if billy clubs are used more in these arrests. Nothing vital gets damaged with a few knocks to the head, but the victims get more publicity & everyone else gets a funnier video

Posted by: Dave at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (sbsMc)

19 I'm going to loot the USS Intrepid when New York City falls.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (8Ee6S)

20 POLITICAL VIOLENCE: Democrats are becoming more and more violent with federal officers. NYC Comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander was arrested Tuesday by ICE agents while attempting to smuggle an illegal alien out of immigration court.
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This is what happens when your means to power is street militias.

What the street militia must be very - VERY - worried about at all times is their final fate. It only ever ends up one of two ways:
1. The system against which the street militia is fighting wins, in which case they all go down (either into prison or into graves). This is what happens after every failed revolution.
2. The system against which the street militia is fighting loses, in which case some of them are elevated to positions of top power and a plurality of the soldiers get positions in the new organization - and all the rest are slaughtered so the new powers can consolidate control. This is what happened to the SA after the Nazis took over.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (6bTRc)

21 does the name tag really say FAFO? brilliant

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (QSrLX)

22 tim Miller is a very punchable face, to aim at him is punching down,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (bXbFr)

23 "probe with a bayonet. when you meet mush, push. when you meet steel, stop"

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (gKWVE)

24 Park, CUNY graduations, street food, and is a proud season ticket holder for the New York Liberty."

Yea, he's a fag all right.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM

I don't have clue one what The New York Liberty are.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (kTd/k)

25 They just love the performative value of all these stunts.

Were all demorat politicians drama majors?

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (PFbvp)

26 It is so fulfilling to see the final stages of FAFO!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (qDqg1)

27 which part if ireland are you from, Officer FAFO?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (QSrLX)

28 4 Every Democrat with ambition is going to arrange to get arrested.

It will escalate.

The 2028 Democrat primary will include someone in jail for murdering an immigration judge. They will raise $10 million.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

Well, being a felon MUST be good for Electoral Chances! After all, Trump is the most prosecuted Person in US History! More court cases at the same time, in more States, then any other person EVAH!!!!

And he got elected President!

Posted by: Democrat Logic at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (mP0Kj)

29 Noem would have brought her shot gun, to skin that varmint

Posted by: miguel cervantes at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (bXbFr)

30 What the street militia must be very - VERY - worried about at all times is their final fate. It only ever ends up one of two ways:
1. The system against which the street militia is fighting wins, in which case they all go down (either into prison or into graves). This is what happens after every failed revolution.
2. The system against which the street militia is fighting loses, in which case some of them are elevated to positions of top power and a plurality of the soldiers get positions in the new organization - and all the rest are slaughtered so the new powers can consolidate control. This is what happened to the SA after the Nazis took over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (6bTRc)
__________

"Yea. We know."

-- Red Guards

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

31 [parks car, blocking street to prevent officers pursuing a murder suspect]

"You don't have authority to arrest US citizens for just parking!"

Also the left:
The J6ers deserved felonies for obstructing an official proceeding!!!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (G1EQj)

32 How many Mayoral cadidates are there?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (63Dwl)

33 Besides the obvious violation of law, he was likely also "absent without leave" from his day job. No, I'm serious--in what sane world does a *comptroller* find himself just casually loitering in courtrooms following *immigration* related cases rather back in his office at his desk doing ACTUAL financial/accounting work???

But naturally NYC would never think to pursue that.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (TN0g+)

34 Now its a race to see which lib can make the biggest arrest spectacle.

Posted by: WisRich at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (G0vdT)

35 "Brad lives with his wife, Meg Barnette, in Brooklyn where they raised two children, Marek and Rosa, both of whom graduated from NYC public schools. He loves Prospect Park, CUNY graduations, street food, and is a proud season ticket holder for the New York Liberty."

Yea, he's a fag all right.

Chances that he can name one woman on the roster:
zero point zero.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (s8j++)

36 I dont think this will help him beat cuomo. But it was worth a shot I guess.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (zuAlv)

37 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (zuAlv)

The point of talking Trump's previous statements is that it's not a betrayal of his past positions. But if we're gonna talk betrayal, then hell, Trump is betraying ALL his voters if he signs thta asshole BBB bullshit.

The question is does it really matter? Trump is there to make America stronger and better and improve the conditions of the world that exists around it if at all possible, and most of all to stop the commies from bullshitting us all down the criminal hellhole drain. He is generally doing that and will continue to.

This idea of one thing being the end-all be-all, it's not. You had no other option in the end. None of us did. If putting down Iran's nuclear ambitions upsets you so much because you or others think it only impacts *Israel*, then vote for Rand in 2028. He'll get stabbed by his commie neighbor then talk up the commies real good.

But if you think holding some red diaper fuckstain over our heads for "muh principuhls" which will involve us being in twenty more different things you and other principuhled people don't want America spending time and money on, go ahead. You will be playing yourself.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (E0p3T)

38
"Yea. We know."

-- Red Guards

________

Us too.

Posted by: Yagoda, Yezhov and Beria at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (QnmlO)

39 avoiding baton strikes to the head have been taboo since the chicago seven. try to keep up

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (QSrLX)

40 36 I dont think this will help him beat cuomo. But it was worth a shot I guess.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (zuAlv)

========

He's an also ran no one had heard of before today.

It's that Hindu guy who wants to defund the police who's going to beat Cuomo.

And I will laugh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

41 Fuggem

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (c6Yx0)

42 Quite the pictures of this on 𝕏.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (Q4IgG)

43 Lander's offense is Federal so he's not going to Riker's.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (gKWVE)

44 Park, CUNY graduations, street food, and is a proud season ticket holder for the New York Liberty."

Yea, he's a fag all right.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM

I don't have clue one what The New York Liberty are.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (kTd/k)
_______

A bunch of loudmouth fugly dyke slash-cunts who throw a basketball around in front of a few hundred spectators in a fake league called the WNBA.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

45
Chances that he can name one woman on the roster:
zero point zero.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (s8j++)

_________

*TWEEEEET!*

Assumes they're women.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (QnmlO)

46 They want bodies on the ground, and the left don't care who.

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (LHPAg)

47 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (6bTRc)

Yeah, that Dem who was just assassinated? It was because she was a Traitor to the Dem cause due to a couple of votes... so she had to be killed.

No one can leave the Village.

Posted by: Democrat Logic at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (mP0Kj)

48 Time to go plant some sunflowers, since I Stand With Ukraine.

Nah, jk.

I have 2 in Solo cups and they look like they need to get their feet in Mother Earth.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (PFbvp)

49 They just love the performative value of all these stunts.

Were all demorat politicians drama majors?
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (PFbvp)

Fairies. Let me teach you how to be a street thug.

Posted by: Milo at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (0eaVi)

50 44 A bunch of loudmouth fugly dyke slash-cunts who throw a basketball around in front of a few hundred spectators in a fake league called the WNBA.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

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With one moderately talented white girl somewhere that everyone hates for some reason.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

51 I don't have clue one what The New York Liberty are.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (kTd/k)

I'm guessing either a soccer team or a WNBA team.

Posted by: far cry at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (yxLKX)

52
Lander's offense is Federal so he's not going to Riker's.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (gKWVE)

_________

Anyone can be accurate, it just takes a lack of imagination.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (QnmlO)

53 Tim Miller is an idiot.

Posted by: Tim Miller's Mom at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (8yx7s)

54 *redacted*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (/Ghsb)

55 Tim Miller is also fighting the urge to "clean up" his wife after her bull gets done.

Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (3BwY8)

56 Chances that he can name one woman on the roster:
zero point zero.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (s8j++)

Chances that there are any "women" on the roster?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (0eaVi)

57 He loves Prospect Park, CUNY graduations, street food, and glory holes in dark hallways.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (c6Yx0)

58 "Yea. We know."

-- Red Guards
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (iFTx/)
++++
They were an interesting hybrid. When the CCP disbanded the Red Guards when Mao finally died and Hua Guofeng put an end to the Cultural Revolution, relatively few of the Red Guards were either imprisoned or slaughtered by the CCP. They didn't to be. Most of them went home to their villages when ordered, where most of them were quietly murdered by the neighbors they had spent the prior years terrorizing. The CCP kicked back and let that problem take care of itself by turning a blind eye to citizens exacting vengeance for the Guards' excesses.

The notable exception as a group was the youngest female Red Guards. They were so indoctrinated and passionate about the Cultural Revolution that they more or less had to be exterminated by the army. Other than that, angry citizens took care of the problem and the Party didn't have to launch a campaign of annihilation against them. They just had to remove their protections.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (6bTRc)

59 Just thinking about this...

Democrats are making spectacles at courtrooms that are not directly tied to immigration. So, they're making spectacles of themselves for illegal immigrants who have been arrested...for crimes unrelated to their immigration status.

Every single one of these people they're defending is going to be some kind of gangbanger or drunk driver or something else that people have little sympathy for.

Lord...and Republicans lost to these people for decades, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

60 They just love the performative value of all these stunts.

Were all demorat politicians drama majors?
Posted by: kallisto
.....

It's where they first learned to enjoy the taste of penis.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (UjdFS)

61 I think the whyte gurl is injured.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (P9gC0)

62 With one moderately talented white girl somewhere that everyone hates for some reason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)
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The "some reason" here is that she's both white and straight.

Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (3BwY8)

63 Hello lamppost,
what'cha knowing?
I've come to watch your flowers growin'.
Ain't you got no ropes for me?
Doo-ait-n-doo-doo, feeling groovy.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (pMi6S)

64 62 With one moderately talented white girl somewhere that everyone hates for some reason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)
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The "some reason" here is that she's both white and straight.
Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (3BwY

=======

She's not the only one. She's also far from the prettiest of that subgroup.

She's just the most popular. For some reason.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (GBKbO)

65 17 Some small part of this is that Democrats think Trump's increased popularity with blacks is his status as a felon, so they're trying to replicate that individually for street cred.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM

Interesting. They've certainly tried everything else.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (rbKZ6)

66 I like this picture of Lander getting removed from the hall:
http://tiny.cc/0f7n001

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (lIio7)

67 Yeah, that Dem who was just assassinated? It was because she was a Traitor to the Dem cause due to a couple of votes... so she had to be killed.

No one can leave the Village.
Posted by: Democrat Logic at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (mP0Kj)
++++
Win or lose, it's those kinds of people that will end up dead. No way out for anyone with that level of ideological fervor. The winners - whether its the revolutionaries or the state against which they are revolting - always purge the most fanatical.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (6bTRc)

68 Good.

My goodness I am in a hateful mood today! Let us pray that no solicitors knock on my door.

Hope they arrest Gavin Newsome of Wide Mouth Bass next for any reason. Mostly to make me laugh.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)

69 Keep pushing Dems, the public loves this...

Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (YwEeS)

70 Some small part of this is that Democrats think Trump's increased popularity with blacks is his status as a felon, so they're trying to replicate that individually for street cred.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (GBKbO)

That IS part of why Trump's popularity has increased with blacks. There's a cultural belief that they're just going to get fucked by the system because of who they are, and that's EXACTLY what happened to Trump. There's common cause there.

Also, black Americans DESPISE the Trantifa folks.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (lHAAk)

71 A video of the arrest captured by an AP reporter shows an agent telling Lander, "You're obstructing."

"I'm not obstructing, I'm standing right here in the hallway," Lander said as he was being handcuffed.

Dude, seriously. Watch a few reels on Facebook.

When a cop gives you a legal order and tells you to step away and you don't,

THAT'S obstructing.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (PfGa7)

72 @youngdems ICE just cuffed & tackled NYC Comptroller @bradlander for asking them to prove they had a warrant to make an arrest. The Trump Admin is going after elected officials in broad daylight. Imagine what they'd do to you when cameras aren't around.

@WUTangKids Masked ICE Nazis kidnap man going to immigration court in NYC how do they expect people to do right thing when they snatch you when you show up for court hearings

STOP SITTING ON YOUR HANDS!! OKAY!? When are you Americans gonna get out there and fight?? This is open warfare on the population!

Did you happen to notice what 4-6 million citizens got up to last weekend? What else do you think we should and realistically can do?

This little old lady in Minnesota went to a demonstration.We protest, resist, make noise, and we're doing that.

Thank God I put off knee replacement a bit longer so I can still add my body to these numbers (at the No Kings and today), and so on. So did almost all my fellow DUers.

Noem is out of control. She ought to be impeached immediately. I can’t believe she was a governor.

Time for armed security details for Blue city officials

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (JCZqz)

73 I take it the New York Liberty is some kind of sportsball team. Abstract nouns as team names are just dumb.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (77rzZ)

74 Just another day of Democrats fighting to keep their illegal aliens just like their ancestors fought to keep their slaves.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (6ydKt)

75 Brad Lander was born on parole.

Posted by: Mooj, Smart Tech Sales Associate at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (/xbAD)

76 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (Zz0t1)

77 He's an also ran no one had heard of before today.

It's that Hindu guy who wants to defund the police who's going to beat Cuomo.

And I will laugh.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO

Seems unlikely to me but you never know

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (zuAlv)

78 Lord...and Republicans lost to these people for decades, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

Well....

Posted by: GOPe at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (0eaVi)

79
He loves Prospect Park, CUNY graduations, street food, and glory holes in dark hallways.

And getting caught in the rain.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (63Dwl)

80 "Brad lives with his wife, Meg Barnette, in Brooklyn where they raised two children, Marek and Rosa, both of whom graduated from NYC public schools. He loves Prospect Park, CUNY graduations, street food, and is a proud season ticket holder for the New York Liberty."

Yea, he's a fag all right.

Chances that he can name one woman on the roster:
zero point zero.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (s8j++)
____

Probably he can name one. The liberal media in NYC is constantly pimping a gaggle of dykes shooting basketballs out of their twats as some kind of real sport. There are daily articles about the Liberty, who shot the most balls out of her twat, and -- surprisingly -- a lot of Mean-Girl type shit that exposes these clowns for the toxic bitches they are.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 04:00 PM (iFTx/)

81 Sounds insurrection-y and domestic terrorist-y to me.

Club Gitmo. Waterboarding Therapy. Military Tribunal.

Some disassembly required ...

/I'll even settle for Making RICO Prosecutions Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 04:00 PM (RgnIL)

82 70 That IS part of why Trump's popularity has increased with blacks. There's a cultural belief that they're just going to get fucked by the system because of who they are, and that's EXACTLY what happened to Trump. There's common cause there.

Also, black Americans DESPISE the Trantifa folks.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (lHAAk)

======

I think the wrinkle for Trump is that a lot of people consider it bullshit and that he's actually a victim of the predatory prosecutorial system.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:00 PM (GBKbO)

83 ... @WUTangKids Masked ICE Nazis kidnap man going to immigration court in NYC how do they expect people to do right thing when they snatch you when you show up for court hearings ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (JCZqz)
++++
Did a memo go out that "arrest" is now to be replaced with "kidnapped?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:00 PM (6bTRc)

84 Thank you Damon Wayans: " Allow me to illuminate my colostomy," Vintage.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 17, 2025 04:00 PM (QSrLX)

85 Hello lamppost,
what'cha knowing?
I've come to watch your flowers growin'.
Ain't you got no ropes for me?
Doo-ait-n-doo-doo, feeling groovy.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (pMi6S)

Liberace, right?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 04:00 PM (0eaVi)

86 Is Adams running?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 04:00 PM (63Dwl)

87 Democrats. Fighting HARD for illegal aliens. Not fighting for Americans.

They hate you and want to replace you with those they think will vote blindly for them like their base does.

You vote Democrat, you hate America, you hate freedom and therefore I hate you. Piss off.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)

88 72 @WUTangKids Masked ICE Nazis kidnap man going to immigration court in NYC how do they expect people to do right thing when they snatch you when you show up for court hearings

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (JCZqz)

========

Stop being a sanctuary city and let ICE pick these people up in the jail cells.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (GBKbO)

89 Mostly Peaceful Violent Obstruction

I need a definition here. When is it just Violent Obstruction? When they use a suicide vest? Grenades? Poison Gas? Nuclear bombs (normal or dirty)?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (S/Y4j)

90 4 Every Democrat with ambition is going to arrange to get arrested.

It will escalate.

The 2028 Democrat primary will include someone in jail for murdering an immigration judge. They will raise $10 million.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
=======
Something similar happened in the North regarding resistance to the Fugitive Slave Law and federal attempts to enforce it especially after the Compromise of 1850 strengthened that law.

That is why I expect political violence coming from the left to ramp up in the next couple of years which ironically worsens their ability to draw voters or even donors (other than the Omidyars or Singham (whatever) in China). Prior to the US Civil War, an asshole Northern business man funded John Brown and his gang of killers for example.

In part, the intent is destabilize the current regime and in part, the left views its role similar to that of Iran ironically that the current opponents must be destroyed so that they can never rise again. Only that way can utopia be built by the river of blood of their opponents.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (ctrM5)

91 I like this picture of Lander getting removed from the hall:
http://tiny.cc/0f7n001
Posted by: bonhomme
......

Oh no! He's being MANHANDLED

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (UjdFS)

92 ... Time for armed security details for Blue city officials
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (JCZqz)
++++
"Our radical revolutionary apparatchiks need gunmen to lay waste to the authorities that oppose them" has a familiar ring, though the irony is probably lost on the DUmmy who posted it...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (6bTRc)

93 Democrats are making spectacles at courtrooms that are not directly tied to immigration. So, they're making spectacles of themselves for illegal immigrants who have been arrested...for crimes unrelated to their immigration status.

Every single one of these people they're defending is going to be some kind of gangbanger or drunk driver or something else that people have little sympathy for.

Lord...and Republicans lost to these people for decades, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Because they owned the flow of information.
That's dead and gone now.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (PfGa7)

94 62 With one moderately talented white girl somewhere that everyone hates for some reason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)
----
The "some reason" here is that she's both white and straight.
Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (3BwY

Talented enough that she can Fight against their blatant bullying and thug tactics, by scoring points and winning games.

Why the League has not stepped in? With some the very blatant ASSAULTS that are going on during games? Must be because of the publicity.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (mP0Kj)

95 They're not going to Free Karen Reid until tomorrow it seems,
most likely on an OUI charge...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (TGPs7)

96 Democrats are making spectacles at courtrooms that are not directly tied to immigration. So, they're making spectacles of themselves for illegal immigrants who have been arrested...for crimes unrelated to their immigration status.
--
CNN headline I halfway scanned this AM:
Few of those arrested by ICE have serious convictions.

Oh?
Oh, is that the standard we're going with, just a little bit of crime is ok, just stay away from the serious stuff?

And who should sacrifice their life, liberty and property to this "little bit" of crime?
Other people, not you, others who don't matter, right?

And that's how you get more Trump.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (G1EQj)

97 Update: The public supports ICE and deportations.

And they want the Democrat-Media Party's Mostly Peaceful Violent Street Paramilitaries prosecuted.

======

Stealing elections and then flooding the country with illegals afterwards has consequences.

No one cares about Maria anymore.

And everyone's already started tuning out the sob stories. It'll all be background noise in a year at the latest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (GBKbO)

98 Ah! So it's ok for felons to run for office now! How...interesting.

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (mADJX)

99
I take it the New York Liberty is some kind of sportsball team. Abstract nouns as team names are just dumb.
Posted by: Bulg

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These work for me:

The Jazz
The Heat
The Magic

They're non-count, but not abstract like "The Liberty," which doesn't summon the imagery or fire the imagination in a sports context the way those others do. That was a fail. Imma try to think up something better. brb

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (wbZPZ)

100 He loves Prospect Park, CUNY graduations, street food, and glory holes in dark hallways.

And getting caught in the rain.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (63Dwl)

----------------

"If you like Penis Armada ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (RgnIL)

101 He loves Prospect Park, CUNY graduations, street food, and glory holes in dark hallways.

And getting caught in the rain.

He is not into yoga....but is into champaign.

Posted by: Rupert Holmes at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (8yx7s)

102 91 I like this picture of Lander getting removed from the hall:
http://tiny.cc/0f7n001
Posted by: bonhomme
......

Oh no! He's being MANHANDLED
Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (UjdFS)

Can we use that term today? or is that SEXXXXXXIST?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (mP0Kj)

103 I'm just.... sobs... ahh so ...sobs... triggered... and...sobs... my life is now just... sobs.. sobs... it's a.... I don't know is this even Amerikkkka?

Posted by: Cryin Ron Pudilla at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (17s+e)

104 >knee replacement
>DU
lolz

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (gKWVE)

105 ... Oh?
Oh, is that the standard we're going with, just a little bit of crime is ok, just stay away from the serious stuff? ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (G1EQj)
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No. That's far more tame than what they're going with.

Their position is "we're pro-crime so long as you're in or affiliated with The Party. Go nuts."

They're pretty clear on it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (6bTRc)

106 >>@WUTangKids Masked ICE Nazis kidnap man going to immigration court in NYC how do they expect people to do right thing when they snatch you when you show up for court hearings

Just gonna go out on a limb and guess he had an outstanding extradition order, or a superseding warrant.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (uZ2FS)

107 96 CNN headline I halfway scanned this AM:
Few of those arrested by ICE have serious convictions.

Oh?
Oh, is that the standard we're going with, just a little bit of crime is ok, just stay away from the serious stuff?

And who should sacrifice their life, liberty and property to this "little bit" of crime?
Other people, not you, others who don't matter, right?

And that's how you get more Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (G1EQj)

=======

Trump won promising to deport pretty much everyone illegal.

No one cares about Maria anymore.

She can get the fuck out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

108 I think the wrinkle for Trump is that a lot of people consider it bullshit and that he's actually a victim of the predatory prosecutorial system.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:00 PM (GBKbO)

That's what I mean.

Blacks (huge, broad brush) have this cultural belief that they're victims of a predatory prosecutorial system. Here comes a guy who IS a victim of that system.

They empathize.

If this is how they get to 'fuck you, war,' I'm good with it. That wasn't my path, but we've all gotten to the same place.

Fuck you. War.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (lHAAk)

109
. . . or provoke ICE into beating the shit out of them.

If that day ever comes, get out in front to tell the world that they had it coming.

Violent campus Vietnam War protests effectively ended on May 4th, 1970.

Posted by: biteme at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (xWS9V)

110 Probably he can name one. The liberal media in NYC is constantly pimping a gaggle of dykes shooting basketballs out of their twats as some kind of real sport. There are daily articles about the Liberty, who shot the most balls out of her twat, and -- surprisingly -- a lot of Mean-Girl type shit that exposes these clowns for the toxic bitches they are.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Every time you write of NYC makes me glad that I have no desire nor need to visit that cesspool ever. Closest I came was flying into La Guardia to attend a conference at Hofstra on LI.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (ctrM5)

111 "Yea. We know."

-- Red Guards
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (iFTx/)
++++

The notable exception as a group was the youngest female Red Guards. They were so indoctrinated and passionate about the Cultural Revolution that they more or less had to be exterminated by the army.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (6bTRc)
_________

Fake news. No way empowered toxic lefty bitches can cause problems like this.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (iFTx/)

112 WUTangKids Masked ICE Nazis kidnap man going to immigration court in NYC how do they expect people to do right thing when they snatch you

when you show up for court hearings

Posted by: Intercepted DU

What was the court hearing for?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (PfGa7)

113 They're not going to Free Karen Reid until tomorrow it seems,
most likely on an OUI charge...
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (TGPs7)

Ovulating Under the Influence?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 04:04 PM (Zz0t1)

114 112 What was the court hearing for?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (PfGa7)

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A citation for greatest citizen in the nation?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:04 PM (GBKbO)

115

These fuckin drama queens.

One thing that’s been entertaining is seeing obese landwhales dressed in rags and looking quite smelly getting run over by cars.

Posted by: E Buzz at June 17, 2025 04:04 PM (UL19d)

116 Hope they arrest Gavin Newsome of Wide Mouth Bass next for any reason. Mostly to make me laugh.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)

They could create a honeytrap by announcing that the press will be at a certain location at a certain time. Live, statewide or nationwide broadcast on radio, TV, and an internet streamer (YouTube or something).

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 04:04 PM (S/Y4j)

117 I just can't understand why Dems are losing male voters when they have so many Brad Landers on their side. Just listen to that guy tell ICE what they can and can't do! Harvey Fierstein is drooling somewhere...

Posted by: bearski at June 17, 2025 04:04 PM (Bhsk7)

118 Normal Americans do not want ICE to be stopped.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (PMtkd)

119 Thank God I put off knee replacement a bit longer so I can still add my body to these numbers (at the No Kings and today), and so on. So did almost all my fellow DUers.

Thanks for identifying your age group!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (PiwSw)

120 The liberal media in NYC is constantly pimping a gaggle of dykes shooting basketballs out of their twats as some kind of real sport. There are daily articles about the Liberty, who shot the most balls out of her twat, and -- surprisingly -- a lot of Mean-Girl type shit that exposes these clowns for the toxic bitches they are.
Posted by: Elric Blade

When I buy Sports Illustrated, I'm hiring you as Editor-in-Chief.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (pMi6S)

121 NYC is screwed. There are 10 Dems vying to be Mayor. Each one is worse than the next.
1 possible Independent and 1 Republican (Curtis Sliwa) are also running, but I hold out no hope for them.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (Oq/TM)

122 Ah, a unity thread.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (jc0TO)

123 Did you happen to notice what 4-6 million citizens got up to last weekend?

Yes, they honored their fathers. Also, there was a parade for the Army.

IIRC, I believe a few decrepit mental cases made fools of themselves.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (s8j++)

124 Fake news. No way empowered toxic lefty bitches can cause problems like this.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (iFTx/)
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LOL.

If you can get young women all full of furor for your cause, you will have most of them *forever* - whether you want them or not. Something about girls between about 15 and 21 leaves them susceptible to permanent ideological alignment up to and including death. If you can *really* land them, you will never ever lose them. They will be your most passionate and ferocious warriors.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (6bTRc)

125 These work for me:

The Jazz
The Heat
The Magic

They're non-count, but not abstract like "The Liberty," which doesn't summon the imagery or fire the imagination in a sports context the way those others do. That was a fail. Imma try to think up something better. brb
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

My problem with non-count team names in general is how you refer to an individual member of the team. One member of the Vikings is a Viking. One member of the Wolverines is a Wolverine. A Yankee, a Spartan, a Cowboy, etc.

What is one member of the Liberty, or the Jazz, or the Crimson Tide?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (77rzZ)

126 Brad Lander is the fellow who's celebrating illegal violent criminals and Gay Pride Day? Twofer holiday

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (2GCMq)

127 Lord...and Republicans lost to these people for decades, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

Can you believe it?

Posted by: The Washington Generals at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (E0p3T)

128 123 Did you happen to notice what 4-6 million citizens got up to last weekend?

Yes, they honored their fathers. Also, there was a parade for the Army.

IIRC, I believe a few decrepit mental cases made fools of themselves.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (s8j++)

=======

"It was the biggest protest in history!"
"You said that BLM was bigger than the numbers you're pumping about No Kings now."
"Well, BLM was actually 10% of what we said. Believe us about No Kings now, though."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (GBKbO)

129 He loves Prospect Park, CUNY graduations, street food, and glory holes in dark hallways.

Penis sipping, candle lit dinners, and musicals.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (17s+e)

130 I'm so sick of this shit I want ICE to start deporting the babysitters.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (UjdFS)

131 104 >knee replacement
>DU
lolz
Posted by: gKWVE

And the one above said she was an old lady. People mentioned "No Kings" was a bunch of geriatrics....and they were right lol

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (JCZqz)

132 Hope they arrest Gavin Newsome of Wide Mouth Bass next for any reason. Mostly to make me laugh.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)

18 USC 1324 Aiding and Abetting an illegal, has specific language in it that ENCOURAGING illegals to come, or stay, is a Felony.... and conspiring to do so is also covered under that law.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (mP0Kj)

133
Tim Miller is also fighting the urge to "clean up" his wife after her bull gets done.
Posted by: ballistic

===============

By "his wife" do you mean the guy he's married to?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (wbZPZ)

134 Ah, a unity thread.
Posted by: toby928

Somebody mentioned boobs?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (77rzZ)

135 Fucking drama kid faggotry.

Just like everything else from the left, this is Fake and Gay.

Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (3BwY8)

136 Probably he can name one. The liberal media in NYC is constantly pimping a gaggle of dykes shooting basketballs out of their twats as some kind of real sport. There are daily articles about the Liberty, who shot the most balls out of her twat, and -- surprisingly -- a lot of Mean-Girl type shit that exposes these clowns for the toxic bitches they are.
Posted by: Elric Blade
========
Every time you write of NYC makes me glad that I have no desire nor need to visit that cesspool ever. Closest I came was flying into La Guardia to attend a conference at Hofstra on LI.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (ctrM5)
______

Well, to each his own. I can live anywhere I want. I like it here, in my penthouse duplex with 500-foot private roof deck with 270-degree views that could be on a postcard. Doesn't feel like a cesspool, ya know? You do you.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (iFTx/)

137
"Yea. We know."

-- Red Guards

________

Us too.
Posted by: Yagoda, Yezhov and Beria at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (QnmlO)

Si, amigo

Posted by: POUM at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (y9nCu)

138 Dem officeholder/bureaucrats assume there will be consequences for this actions so for him this was a great media moment that he can campaign on.

And this is why we need to start getting these people real prison time when they break the law.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (t0Rmr)

139 'physically separated'
I'm thinking of two dogs.
Yuck

Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (PuHKi)

140 They're non-count, but not abstract like "The Liberty," which doesn't summon the imagery or fire the imagination in a sports context the way those others do. That was a fail. Imma try to think up something better. brb
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:02 PM (wbZPZ)

The fact that the Brooklynettes are actually the men's team will always baffle me.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (BcT2b)

141 127 Lord...and Republicans lost to these people for decades, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

Can you believe it?
Posted by: The Washington Generals at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (E0p3T)

And if Trump had not brought in MAGA... they still would be... Look at Miss Lindsey, and the Turtle of the Senate.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (mP0Kj)

142 Well, to each his own. I can live anywhere I want. I like it here, in my penthouse duplex with 500-foot private roof deck with 270-degree views that could be on a postcard. Doesn't feel like a cesspool, ya know? You do you.
Posted by: Elric Blade

You married to a hot Hungarian chic who gets allergic smelling hay?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (77rzZ)

143 The liberal media in NYC is constantly pimping a gaggle of dykes shooting basketballs out of their twats as some kind of real sport. There are daily articles about the Liberty, who shot the most balls out of her twat, and -- surprisingly -- a lot of Mean-Girl type shit that exposes these clowns for the toxic bitches they are.
Posted by: Elric Blade

When I buy Sports Illustrated, I'm hiring you as Editor-in-Chief.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (pMi6S)
_______

Well, that Swimsuit Edition needs work ....

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (iFTx/)

144 134 Ah, a unity thread.
Posted by: toby928

Somebody mentioned boobs?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (77rzZ)

unreal engine has way better boob assets than unity.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (BcT2b)

145 128 123 Did you happen to notice what 4-6 million citizens got up to last weekend?

Yes, they honored their fathers. Also, there was a parade for the Army.

IIRC, I believe a few decrepit mental cases made fools of themselves.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (s8j++)

I was surprised, because most media I saw tried to say it was around 14 million. Then I saw this poster said 4-6 millions citizens, so it's probably close.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (JCZqz)

146 If FBI agents were to take a look at the official handiwork of NYC Comptroller Lander there would no doubt be less ICE bashing.
irredeemably corrupt political hacks in deep blue cities and States are ridiculously vulnerable to investigation and prosecution and imprisonment.
Trump should call FNC Murdoch and see if FNC will loan Blondi out for some brief exercise of modern political power. And law.

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 17, 2025 04:09 PM (FCPbW)

147
Getting arrested by ICE will be a badge of honor to the Dem office holder/ candidate.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 04:09 PM (IifOV)

148 How do you do, fellow whipper snappers! Back in my day, I mean in our day we stand up for AMERICA against liars like Johnson and fascists like Nixon.

Posted by: the KIDS, against the MAN at June 17, 2025 04:09 PM (gKWVE)

149 Has Senator Pigglie offered any type of rational reason why he had to bull rush Noem rather than calmly waiting to speak and then calmly introducing himself and asking his questions?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (kTd/k)

150 145 128 123 Did you happen to notice what 4-6 million citizens got up to last weekend?

Yes, they honored their fathers. Also, there was a parade for the Army.

IIRC, I believe a few decrepit mental cases made fools of themselves.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (s8j++)

I was surprised, because most media I saw tried to say it was around 14 million. Then I saw this poster said 4-6 millions citizens, so it's probably close.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (JCZqz)

Apparently they stopped some King from coming in and taking over from our President... weird...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (mP0Kj)

151 I loved the Baltimore Bullets.

Best name ever.

Posted by: When Adults Ruled The World at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (/xbAD)

152 Well, to each his own. I can live anywhere I want. I like it here, in my penthouse duplex with 500-foot private roof deck with 270-degree views that could be on a postcard. Doesn't feel like a cesspool, ya know? You do you.
Posted by: Elric Blade

You married to a hot Hungarian chic who gets allergic smelling hay?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (77rzZ)
______

I had to google that reference ... LOL.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (iFTx/)

153 "It's that Hindu guy who wants to defund the police who's going to beat Cuomo."

The "Hindu guy", Zohran Mamdani is actually Muslim.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (2GCMq)

154 Blacks (huge, broad brush) have this cultural belief that they're victims of a predatory prosecutorial system. Here comes a guy who IS a victim of that system.

They empathize.

If this is how they get to 'fuck you, war,' I'm good with it. That wasn't my path, but we've all gotten to the same place.

Fuck you. War.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
==========
The primary mistake that blacks have made is that their history has been distorted into that they were the only victims of the PTB. Poor whites were if anything as victimized by the power brokers as were blacks as far as civil and criminal justice.

In general, most of our ruling class like that of the UK, dislike the working classes and believe them morally and socially dubious. Slavery was an extreme example of what happens when cheap labor is sought by the bosses but after slavery was illegal--the plantations, mines, etc. simply moved on to the sharecropper and corporate store model of extracting work in exchange for as little as they could pay. Racial divisions along with class were promoted by Democrats to drive a wedge into the fusion and populist politics of the 1890's between poor and populist blacks and whites.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:11 PM (ctrM5)

155 Did you happen to notice what 4-6 million citizens got up to last weekend?

4-6 ? what happened to the 8-12 they were claiming on Sunday ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:11 PM (VE6XX)

156 These stunts are getting boring fast so they will have to up the ante. Which Dem is going to take one for the team and pull a weapon on LE and get shot? They keep ramping this bad performance art up and we've still got a lot of long, hot Summer to go.

Posted by: Cheri at June 17, 2025 04:11 PM (oiNtH)

157 #23
Hash is same as nick. Weird

Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2025 04:11 PM (PuHKi)

158 156 These stunts are getting boring fast so they will have to up the ante. Which Dem is going to take one for the team and pull a weapon on LE and get shot? They keep ramping this bad performance art up and we've still got a lot of long, hot Summer to go.
Posted by: Cheri at June 17, 2025 04:11 PM (oiNtH)

======

Luigi for president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

159
What is one member of the Crimson Tide?

A red drip.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 04:11 PM (63Dwl)

160 You married to a hot Hungarian chic who gets allergic smelling hay?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (77rzZ)
______

I had to google that reference ... LOL.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (iFTx/)

OK, ya all just made me feel old!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:11 PM (mP0Kj)

161 Anyone up for really blasting some Who at this organic protest? I brought my eight track. Kinda have to blast it these days, you know how it is. well if you don't I'll tell you

Posted by: the KIDS, against the MAN at June 17, 2025 04:12 PM (gKWVE)

162 Well, to each his own. I can live anywhere I want. I like it here, in my penthouse duplex with 500-foot private roof deck with 270-degree views that could be on a postcard. Doesn't feel like a cesspool, ya know? You do you.
Posted by: Elric Blade

A Mr. Fritz Lang is holding for you on Line 4. Says he's got a film idea he'd like to pitch.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:12 PM (77rzZ)

163
My problem with non-count team names in general is how you refer to an individual member of the team.

Posted by: Bulg

=============

Yeah, you have to make an adjustment. "He's with the Jazz," "Orlando Magic point guard John Smith," etc. Oh, there's also The Thunder and The Lightning. I kinda like the language-play myself.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:12 PM (wbZPZ)

164 The notable exception as a group was the youngest female Red Guards. They were so indoctrinated and passionate about the Cultural Revolution that they more or less had to be exterminated by the army.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 03:57 PM (6bTRc)
_________

Fake news. No way empowered toxic lefty bitches can cause problems like this.
-------------
I assumed it was fake news because the movies have taught me that boss girl muscle can't be beaten by mere "army" soldiers.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 04:12 PM (TN0g+)

165 155 Did you happen to notice what 4-6 million citizens got up to last weekend?

4-6 ? what happened to the 8-12 they were claiming on Sunday ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:11 PM (VE6XX)

Hand recount?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:12 PM (mP0Kj)

166 What is one member of the Liberty, or the Jazz, or the Crimson Tide?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (77rzZ)

—————-

A dyke, a thug, and a future inmate.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 04:12 PM (u73oe)

167
They keep ramping this bad performance art up and we've still got a lot of long, hot Summer to go.
Posted by: Cheri

TWO summers until the next election.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (63Dwl)

168 Fake news. No way empowered toxic lefty bitches can cause problems like this.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (iFTx/)
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LOL.

If you can get young women all full of furor for your cause, you will have most of them *forever* - whether you want them or not. Something about girls between about 15 and 21 leaves them susceptible to permanent ideological alignment up to and including death. If you can *really* land them, you will never ever lose them. They will be your most passionate and ferocious warriors.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (6bTRc)
_____

They also go gaga for Taylor Swift. Yikes.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (iFTx/)

169 One common theme - these people interfering genuinely seem to think they are allowed, by some rule or law, to interfere. Thye seem shocked when the officers ignore them and arrest them.

They remind me of spoiled teenagers, in their mentality.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (gDhA9)

170 When you donate sperm, is is allowed to stipulate that it not go to soyboy cucks unable to impregnate their beard-wives? Because if we withheld all sperm from the faux-straight demographic in Brooklyn, they wouldn't be able to reproduce.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (pMi6S)

171 162 Well, to each his own. I can live anywhere I want. I like it here, in my penthouse duplex with 500-foot private roof deck with 270-degree views that could be on a postcard. Doesn't feel like a cesspool, ya know? You do you.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Yeah, but you have to come down sometime

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (VE6XX)

172 134 Ah, a unity thread.
Posted by: toby928

Somebody mentioned boobs?
Posted by: Bulg

Make sure your SafeSearch filter is on when searching for Uniboob! I figured I'd find an easy picture of a cute girl with an unfortunate uniboob top...and instead got a BUNCH of clinical images of boobs. I guess something to do with breast surgery when they're very asymmetrical, to even them out?

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (JCZqz)

173 I had to google that reference ... LOL.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Please leave my lawn. The hot Hungarian chic can stay.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (77rzZ)

174 MJTruthUltra
@MJTruthUltra

Damn.. Matt Gaetz coming in hot… 🔥

“Many of President Trump’s Pro-Israel friends and advisers are trying to pressure him into sending airstrikes against Iran…

President Trump knows the Bush-era doctrine of regime change in the Middle East is foolish…>

The last time america listened to netanyahu based on false claims of wmds, we ended up pouring cash and blood all over the sands of mesopotamia, and in the end, we only made iran stronger!”

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 04:14 PM (TGPs7)

175 I'm bummed that the Utah Hockey Team To Be Named Later finally got a real name.

I liked it just being "The Utah Hockey Team", given their backstory.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:14 PM (BcT2b)

176 Apparently inducing law enforcement to arrest them is how Dems kick off their campaigns now.

Posted by: Brian at June 17, 2025 04:14 PM (iK8a4)

177 Lord...and Republicans lost to these people for decades, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

This is not by any means the whole problem, or even the biggest part of the problem, but I have seen far too much evidence that many Republicans on the national stage, particularly in congress, are the products of narrowminded, small-town babbitry, as Mencken called it. Basically conservative in temperament, and, in their own minds, even in their ideology, but possessing a weak grasp on genuine political thought and historical context. They are very much a go-along-to-get-along crowd, easily played by their big city, sophisticated rivals in the Democratic Party. I offer as Exhibit A, my own former U.S. Senator, Richard Burr, a lawn mower salesman who more or less stepped right into national politics by winning a congressional seat in 1994, and then a Senate seat in 2004. He was constantly under the influence of Virginia's Democratic Senator, Mark Warner, and became, as a result of that relationship, and his own incurable dunderheadedness, a useless RINO.

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 04:14 PM (mADJX)

178 Unity thread material:

https://tinyurl.com/MyFavoritePersian

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 04:14 PM (TN0g+)

179 If you watch a lot of cop arrest videos, you see the same thing - people getting pulled over on a traffic stop, then escalating the situation. Getting out of the car, hassling the officer. Making excuses. Claiming things happened that didn't. Saying "don't you touch me" or "Don't you know who I am?"

It's all extreme narcissism.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 04:15 PM (gDhA9)

180 ... IIRC, I believe a few decrepit mental cases made fools of themselves.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (s8j++)
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Depends on location. Turnout was astonishingly small in places where I'd expect it to be high (Houston, for example) and much higher in places I'd expect it to be a ghost town.

My little city of about 30k people had an event - not officially part of the "No Kings" thing, but on the same day and in "solidarity" (though never said with *what* they were in "solidarity"), organized by the county Democrat Party.

My city went 60% for Trump and the county went 70% for Trump. I'd estimate around a thousand demonstrators. Mostly Boomers and blue-haired (literally) Millennials. Very few 20-somethings from what I saw, and far more women than men. The Boomers were much closer to sex parity than the Millennials, who were overwhelmingly women. A handful of kids dragged along by the parents or grandparents.

Even if there were a lot of carpet-baggers bussed in to man the line (possible), that indicates that the Party views my town as important. Astonishing turnout for my burg, and deeply worrying regardless of the specifics.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:15 PM (6bTRc)

181 @WUTangKids Masked ICE Nazis kidnap man going to immigration court in NYC how do they expect people to do right thing when they snatch you when you show up for court hearings ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (JCZqz)
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Did a memo go out that "arrest" is now to be replaced with "kidnapped?"
---
Yes.
Because they are stupid. And evil.

Stupid, because you kidnap minors. You abduct adults.

But evil, because they want the pubic to think ICE is arresting children.

But also stupid, because the public they are trying to fool with that abuse of language isn't that stupid.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:15 PM (G1EQj)

182
Oh, speaking of polls.

I hate-watched Ezra Klein talking to Sarah McBride the Congresstran. They're very upset that the issues are now polling stronger than the election results. I.e., Trump won by 3%, but action X is favored by 10% sort of thing. Of course you know their response.

REFRAME REFRAME REFRAME

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:15 PM (wbZPZ)

183 kaitlancollins
14m
President Trump's meeting with his national security team in the Situation Room has ended. It lasted for over an hour.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 04:15 PM (Ffc+8)

184 Unity thread material:

https://tinyurl.com/MyFavoritePersian
Posted by: Crusader

Tara, pre-tat. Mmmmmmmmm...

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:15 PM (77rzZ)

185 182
Oh, speaking of polls.

I hate-watched Ezra Klein talking to Sarah McBride the Congresstran. They're very upset that the issues are now polling stronger than the election results. I.e., Trump won by 3%, but action X is favored by 10% sort of thing. Of course you know their response.

REFRAME REFRAME REFRAME
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:15 PM (wbZPZ)

=======

Flooding the nation will illegals, a choice that inflated prices across the board especially rents and insurance, while also inflating crime rates, was...a bad idea?

The reaction would be to...support mass deportations?

Weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:17 PM (GBKbO)

186 President Trump's meeting with his national security team in the Situation Room has ended. It lasted for over an hour.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 04:15 PM (Ffc+

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Is that a long time or not? How long do "Situation Room" meetings usually last?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:17 PM (6bTRc)

187 I got a unimoob job to even them out. Next year I'll get the one on my back done.

Posted by: Chris Christie at June 17, 2025 04:18 PM (UjdFS)

188 186 President Trump's meeting with his national security team in the Situation Room has ended. It lasted for over an hour.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 04:15 PM (Ffc+
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Is that a long time or not? How long do "Situation Room" meetings usually last?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:17 PM (6bTRc)

=======

My Twitter PhD says that they usually last 37 minutes, and that this meeting was well outside the standard 3 deviations from that mean.

Meaning, we have a draft now. Report for duty, soldier.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

189 169 One common theme - these people interfering genuinely seem to think they are allowed, by some rule or law, to interfere. Thye seem shocked when the officers ignore them and arrest them.

They remind me of spoiled teenagers, in their mentality.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (gDhA9)

I've had this conversation with friends of mine before who've noticed the same thing. If you're gonna be all ballsy and Civil Disobedience like, then sack up and take your arrest like an adult. If you weasel out of your punishment, then what the fuck was the point of your little tantrum other than to throw a tantrum? It's the punishment under The System that gives your protest heft and weight, not the number of dogs in a ten block radius that start howling after your dumbass goes "REEEEEE" in a register no self respecting human would ever voluntarily create with their own face. Stand up tall and proud in your cuffs and quit whining like a little bitch.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:18 PM (BcT2b)

190 165 155 Did you happen to notice what 4-6 million citizens got up to last weekend?

4-6 ? what happened to the 8-12 they were claiming on Sunday ?
Posted by: It's me donna

The local media was doing all it could to frame the crowd in a way that made it seem much larger than it really was. I walked by one of the little local ones. Maybe 20 people. The little local blog crowded them all together in a storefront and said it was over 100.

So stupid.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 04:18 PM (W2Pud)

191 The liberal media in NYC is constantly pimping a gaggle of dykes shooting basketballs out of their twats as some kind of real sport. There are daily articles about the Liberty, who shot the most balls out of her twat, and -- surprisingly -- a lot of Mean-Girl type shit that exposes these clowns for the toxic bitches they are.
Posted by: Elric Blade

And if we are being honest, there are middle school boys teams across America who could beat the balls off of all of them.

Posted by: Cheri at June 17, 2025 04:18 PM (oiNtH)

192 One common theme - these people interfering genuinely seem to think they are allowed, by some rule or law, to interfere. Thye seem shocked when the officers ignore them and arrest them.

They remind me of spoiled teenagers, in their mentality.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (gDhA9)

The other day, a bunch of leftist cum funnels were in Egypt, trying to "March for Palestine."

They were getting arrested by Egyptian miliary, and complained, saying "We can do this in America, why can't we do it here?!"

It was fucking glorious to see the idiocy spelled out that plainly.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 04:19 PM (lHAAk)

193 156 They keep ramping this bad performance art up and we've still got a lot of long, hot Summer to go.
Posted by: Cheri

Yeah but white senior citizen-adjacent peaceful protesters can't bring the heat like the the young brothahs, who seem to be sitting this one out.

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 04:19 PM (j4U/Z)

194 Democrats to drive a wedge into the fusion and populist politics of the 1890's between poor and populist blacks and whites. Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:11 PM (ctrM5)

There is a hilarious sketch on SNL where a poor white guy is on black Jeopardy, and gets every answer right to his, and the other contestants astonishment.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 04:19 PM (gDhA9)

195 Supposedly 1 million aliens have been deported under the get $1000 reward to go home without charges program.

They also get a shot at LEGAL reentry. The rest do not.

So the ones that don't self deport DO get due process. On their way out. All that Democrat MSM blather is lying.

Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2025 04:19 PM (PuHKi)

196 I suspect this is a widely held sentiment in Iran, plus there's a lovely young Iranian woman dancing in the rain in her skivvies.

An Iranian woman sends a message to the Islamic regime:

“We will dance on your grave with all our hearts. We now have joy and hope for the future.

The murderers of Iran’s children and women will fall. The Islamic regime will perish!”

https://is.gd/0JElJ5

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:20 PM (s8j++)

197 You married to a hot Hungarian chic who gets allergic smelling hay?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (77rzZ)
______

I had to google that reference ... LOL.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (iFTx/)

OK, ya all just made me feel old!
Posted by: Romeo13

Hots cakes!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 04:20 PM (PfGa7)

198 It’s not like Homan didn’t warn them.

Glad the Trump team is NOT backing down, not apologizing or wimping out in fear of bad press.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 04:20 PM (Hkcdp)

199 191 And if we are being honest, there are middle school boys teams across America who could beat the balls off of all of them.
Posted by: Cheri at June 17, 2025 04:18 PM (oiNtH)

======

My brother did video production for the athletic department at a major SEC school.

He would film any sporting thing they asked. He often filmed practice sessions for the very popular and powerful girls basketball team. #1 in the nation consistently for years.

Their practices were against the men's team, but the men's team had special rules.

They couldn't run or jump. The women could.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

200
the products of narrowminded, small-town babbitry, as Mencken called it. Basically conservative in temperament, and, in their own minds, even in their ideology, but possessing a weak grasp on genuine political thought and historical context.

Posted by: Paco

=================

There are conservative social engineers who are as annoying and wrong-headed as the liberal ones. I tried to have a discussion with one once and got shut down in the usual way: after a number of "Well how would YOU feel?" and "But people are stupid!" responses it ended with "You know what? I'm done with this conversation!"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:20 PM (wbZPZ)

201 Trump recently signed a bill that in the game Checkers, players will no longer say "King me" when a player's piece reaches the opposite end of the board. Players will now say "Trump me!"

Posted by: Jolo at June 17, 2025 04:20 PM (hFqlx)

202 187 I got a unimoob job to even them out. Next year I'll get the one on my back done.
Posted by: Chris Christie

🤮

I imagine you have a pair of them on your back, not just one.

2 pairs moobs (front and back) < 3 tittied girl from Total Recall

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 04:21 PM (JCZqz)

203 Well, to each his own. I can live anywhere I want. I like it here, in my penthouse duplex with 500-foot private roof deck with 270-degree views that could be on a postcard. Doesn't feel like a cesspool, ya know? You do you.
Posted by: Elric Blade
======
And likewise. I'm sure you would view backwoods MS as a good place to be from but NYC is starting to lose its raison d'être as a hub for culture, wealth, and financial power.

Ditto for Paris, London, etc. other than a seat of government. What you have now in most of these cities is such a divergence between rich and poor that you might as well be in a city in the Third World. You can't smell the street from the 40th floor so the cloud people float above all the strife below them. Only occasionally impinging on something real and tangible often by accident.

This is also why these cities are foci of globalism. To them, a peasant is a peasant regardless of the country so why get all bothered about mundane things like borders, crime, etc. It simply does not affect them.

Bonfire of the Vanities is an excellent novel about such things.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:21 PM (ctrM5)

204 187 I got a unimoob job to even them out. Next year I'll get the one on my back done.
Posted by: Chris Christie at June 17, 2025 04:18 PM (UjdFS)

Totally changed my life...

Posted by: Jerrold Nadler at June 17, 2025 04:21 PM (PiwSw)

205 You married to a hot Hungarian chic who gets allergic smelling hay?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (77rzZ)

Magyar in bed is hot.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 04:21 PM (kTd/k)

206 Their practices were against the men's team, but the men's team had special rules.

They couldn't run or jump. The women could.

Yeah? Let's see the men's give birth.

Posted by: The women's team at June 17, 2025 04:22 PM (s8j++)

207 I should add, you know how the left has been pushing the whole "but they haven't committed any other crimes!!!" line?

Trump said, "hey, look here: Law from the 1940's. Says everyone in the US who isn't a citizen must register and provide fingerprints."

So now he's charging all these "crossing the border illegally is only a civil crime!!" folks with another federal crime of failing to register and provide fingerprints.

LOLGF.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:22 PM (G1EQj)

208 Unity thread material:

https://tinyurl.com/MyFavoritePersian

WTH is up with her twiggy little legs? She looks like a janked-up AI composition.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 04:22 PM (lIio7)

209 Just call arresting illegals an "official proceeding."

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 04:22 PM (gDhA9)

210 >knee replacement
>DU
lolz
Posted by: gKWVE

I was once a protester like you, but then I took a tear gas canister to the knee. Better than a rubber bullet to the nads though, but it hurt.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 04:22 PM (NHiEn)

211 Supposedly 1 million aliens have been deported under the get $1000 reward to go home without charges program.

If so, that's a big deal. And may spread faster.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 17, 2025 04:23 PM (JCZqz)

212 Did you hear the news about Putin?

https://tinyurl.com/2xty3cus

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 04:23 PM (Ffc+8)

213 An Iranian woman sends a message to the Islamic regime:

“We will dance on your grave with all our hearts. We now have joy and hope for the future.

The murderers of Iran’s children and women will fall. The Islamic regime will perish!”

Doesn't sound good for the mullahs.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 04:23 PM (PfGa7)

214 207 I should add, you know how the left has been pushing the whole "but they haven't committed any other crimes!!!" line?

Trump said, "hey, look here: Law from the 1940's. Says everyone in the US who isn't a citizen must register and provide fingerprints."

So now he's charging all these "crossing the border illegally is only a civil crime!!" folks with another federal crime of failing to register and provide fingerprints.

LOLGF.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:22 PM (G1EQj)

=====

Turns out there are a host of laws around illegal immigrants that give the executive almost complete unilateral authority to deport as many of them as fast as possible.

But, remember, Biden couldn't do anything without a new law.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

215
The other day, a bunch of leftist cum funnels were in Egypt, trying to "March for Palestine."

They were getting arrested by Egyptian miliary, and complained, saying "We can do this in America, why can't we do it here?!"

It was fucking glorious to see the idiocy spelled out that plainly.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

================

I've seen a bunch of those vids where people are hilariously sending calls for help into the ether.

But I keep wondering. They're from all over Europe and America. Who paid for their plane fare to Egypt?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:23 PM (wbZPZ)

216 But I keep wondering. They're from all over Europe and America. Who paid for their plane fare to Egypt?

The last few packets of USAID dollars...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 04:24 PM (t0Rmr)

217 210 >knee replacement
>DU
lolz
Posted by: gKWVE

I was once a protester like you, but then I took a tear gas canister to the knee. Better than a rubber bullet to the nads though, but it hurt.
Posted by: Stu Podaso

I'm in the hospital with a shattered testicle from Saturday. I'm REAL sorry about your knee 🙄

Posted by: Martin Santoyo at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (JCZqz)

218
Supposedly 1 million aliens have been deported under the get $1000 reward to go home without charges program.

If so, that's a big deal. And may spread faster.
Posted by: Moron Analyst

================

We had a discussion about that yesterday morning. I strongly doubt that a million have self-deported.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (wbZPZ)

219 These work for me:

The Jazz
The Heat
The Magic

Posted by: Blonde Morticia

The Avalanche

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (NHiEn)

220 Adults throwing tantrums.

Never gets old seeing the belt come out.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (A5bjg)

221 Remember when pushing a police officer was insurrection worthy of 4 years in a black site?

Why it seems like it was only last year...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (t0Rmr)

222 211 Supposedly 1 million aliens have been deported under the get $1000 reward to go home without charges program.

If so, that's a big deal. And may spread faster.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 17, 2025 04:23 PM (JCZqz)

=======

All we have so far is statistics from the BLS and the Census.

According to the Census' monthly survey, the foreign born population in the US has decreased by 750,000.

According to the BLS, the foreign born workers in the US workforce have decreased by 1,000,000.

I suspect that this range (750K to 1 mil) is on the low end of how many people have left.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

223 There is a hilarious sketch on SNL where a poor white guy is on black Jeopardy, and gets every answer right to his, and the other contestants astonishment.
Posted by: El Mariachi
------
I regard the successful de jure segregation of America due to the Democrats trying to hold onto power in the 1890's as one of the most horrendous and morally bankrupt policies that essentially undid the ACW from the Reconstruction onwards to Brown v. Board of Education.

When teaching, I often stunned students with the discussing how Woodrow Wilson segregated the federal government and Army and how Black Jack Pershing got his name.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (ctrM5)

224 I want Bill Melugian to do a hair how to video. Does he use a round brush, flat iron? How much product does he use?

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (v2VfP)

225 I've had this conversation with friends of mine before who've noticed the same thing. If you're gonna be all ballsy and Civil Disobedience like, then sack up and take your arrest like an adult. If you weasel out of your punishment, then what the fuck was the point of your little tantrum other than to throw a tantrum? It's the punishment under The System that gives your protest heft and weight, not the number of dogs in a ten block radius that start howling after your dumbass goes "REEEEEE" in a register no self respecting human would ever voluntarily create with their own face. Stand up tall and proud in your cuffs and quit whining like a little bitch.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:18 PM (BcT2b)

Yeah I am under the impression in the early Civil Rights era the protesters were orderly and if they were arrested, didn't fight. Therefore people listened to the complaints and they won out.

Hippies and later protesters were just acting for political power rather than ideals and spread violence as part of the process.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (8avO+)

226 “But they haven’t committed any crimes.”

Oh, really? Not identity theft, not lying on federal forms, not tax evasion, not getting benefits not available to non- citizens, etc?

By coming here illegally it is required to then commit other crimes to live here.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (Hkcdp)

227 Unity thread material:

https://tinyurl.com/MyFavoritePersian

WTH is up with her twiggy little legs? She looks like a janked-up AI composition.

I was trying to figure out why she looks like Kathryn Bell (no, it's not their chesticles), and then it occurred to me; they both have a prominent philtrum.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (s8j++)

228 Did you hear the news about Putin?

https://tinyurl.com/2xty3cus

Posted by: Braenyard

He looks like Bela Lugosi's Dracula about to seize one of his victims in that pic.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:26 PM (77rzZ)

229 But I keep wondering. They're from all over Europe and America. Who paid for their plane fare to Egypt?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:23 PM (wbZPZ)

Your tax dollars.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 04:26 PM (/CkK4)

230
Their practices were against the men's team, but the men's team had special rules.

They couldn't run or jump. The women could.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Harrison Bergeron University

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 04:26 PM (63Dwl)

231 Cernovich
@Cernovich
If the U.S. had not entered WWII in Europe, then the USSR would have been fully degraded, no lend-lease, and Germany would have still lost. No Cold War.

Of course alternative history is impossible to sketch out fully.

But the post below is midwit tier stuff.

Gad Saad
@GadSaad
"Why should the US enter WWII? The Nazis pose us no threats. Let the Jews deal with their issues in Europe. This is not our problem. No Nazi has ever attacked anyone in Utah or Idaho. Let dictator Churchill worry about the Nazis. Churchill is the bad guy. The Nazis are misunderstood."

[Sounds familiar to current realities?]

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 04:26 PM (TGPs7)

232 195 Supposedly 1 million aliens have been deported under the get $1000 reward to go home without charges program. They also get a shot at LEGAL reentry. The rest do not. Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2025 04:19 PM (PuHKi)

Want to REALLY troll the progs?

Start allowing some of those that voluntarily self-deported and opportunity to return, legally. With a green card. Pick the best of the bunch and let them come back. Start with say, 50,000 this year.

Then...what the fuck can the left say at that point?

And expect a flood of people existing voluntarily. Because if they arrest you, you NEVER get to come back.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 04:26 PM (gDhA9)

233 Turns out there are a host of laws around illegal immigrants that give the executive almost complete unilateral authority to deport as many of them as fast as possible.

But, remember, Biden couldn't do anything without a new law.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

Yup... if your family is here illegally... and you are supporting them by working... you are not only working illegally (you must have a Soc Sec Number) but you are also Aiding and Abetting other Illegals to stay.

If you are using a Fraudulent Soc Sec number, then that is document fraud.

Just living here, they are breaking multiple laws.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:27 PM (mP0Kj)

234 I got bad news for you all:
Just got back from WalMart and the shelves are bare!
What little that it left is double and triple in price!

Is this what you voted for?!

The Dems were right:
Tariffs caused shortages and massive inflation.
Deportation caused the fruits and vegetables to go unpicked.

Nah.
Just kidding.
Prices are down, shelves are fully stocked.
Dems are fucking retarded.
So are their voters.

More Trump.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:27 PM (G1EQj)

235 Supposedly 1 million aliens have been deported under the get $1000 reward to go home without charges program.

If so, that's a big deal. And may spread faster.
Posted by: Moron Analyst

================

We had a discussion about that yesterday morning. I strongly doubt that a million have self-deported.

If it's true, presumably there's a record of $1B being paid out. I, too, doubt it very much.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:27 PM (s8j++)

236 An Iranian woman sends a message to the Islamic regime:

“We will dance on your grave with all our hearts. We now have joy and hope for the future.

Peak Barbara Eden was better. That girl loses points for dancing in the rain but not wearing a white t-shirt.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM (JCZqz)

237 These work for me:

The Jazz
The Heat
The Magic

Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Not in Utah I don't like the Jazz. They should have renamed the team when it moved. Same thing when the Lakers moved from Minnesota. Or the Arizona Cardinals, which are about the only state that does NOT have Cardinals I think.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM (8avO+)

238 Hey, anyone else see how murder rate is on track to be the lowest is many years article AJ linked to this morning?

What an odd coincidence, this happening at the same time ICE is aggressively deporting, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM (Hkcdp)

239 Operation Rescue:
BREAKING: DOGE Launches Deep-Dive Investigation into Planned Parenthood – Misuse of Federal Funds, Organ Harvesting, And Other Violations

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM (RHGPo)

240 121 NYC is screwed. There are 10 Dems vying to be Mayor. Each one is worse than the next.
1 possible Independent and 1 Republican (Curtis Sliwa) are also running, but I hold out no hope for them.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (Oq/TM)

It doesnt really matter who the mayor is in NYC. It’s an unmanageable city run on corruption and racial politics.

That said cuomo has the most powerful machine of those running so I assume he will win. And hes probably the least insufferable (which is saying a lot.) But we shall see.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM (zuAlv)

241 I was trying to figure out why she looks like Kathryn Bell (no, it's not their chesticles), and then it occurred to me; they both have a prominent philtrum.
Posted by: Archimedes

My first crush in junior high had a very nice philtrum.

There's a reason it shares an etymology with "philtre."

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM (77rzZ)

242 Lander doing performance politics. Scott Stringer another also ran in the dent primary has a commercial calling Trump a schmuck . Granny killer still leading commie Muslim

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (akw+7)

243 238 Hey, anyone else see how murder rate is on track to be the lowest is many years article AJ linked to this morning?

What an odd coincidence, this happening at the same time ICE is aggressively deporting, huh?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM (Hkcdp)

Unpossible! Trump is murdering old people by the dozen. He's lining up his political enemies and shooting them dead!

The murder rate must be in the brazillions!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (A5bjg)

244 Cernovich
@Cernovich
If the U.S. had not entered WWII in Europe, then the USSR would have been fully degraded, no lend-lease, and Germany would have still lost.

Care to show your work on that one? Didn't think so.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (s8j++)

245 187 unimoob
Posted by: Chris Christie

I like to boost my vocabulary every day. Today's new word is "unimoob."

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (pMi6S)

246 I want Bill Melugian to do a hair how to video. Does he use a round brush, flat iron? How much product does he use?

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 04:25 PM (v2VfP)

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As a balding man, I find this flaunting of privilege hair-triggering!

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (Ss2zz)

247
All we have so far is statistics from the BLS and the Census.

According to the Census' monthly survey, the foreign born population in the US has decreased by 750,000.

According to the BLS, the foreign born workers in the US workforce have decreased by 1,000,000.

—

Would explain why the murder rate has plummeted in 2025.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (/CkK4)

248 The other point of the civil protest being calm under arrest is that you were trying to make them arrest you unjustly. Which they gladly would back in the day.

If you're burning shit and pissing on things and doing shit that would be flagrantly illegal even outside of any kind of "protest" environment, then you don't get to whine about being arrested, you simpletons.

It's being arrested for *nothing* other than standing in public, en masse, and voicing your opinion against The State that gives you moral authority (oh, how i hate that phrase). Getting arrested for arson or assault.... doesn't.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (BcT2b)

249 The man who allegedly killed his neighbors at an Inland Empire nudist resort last August reportedly did so over a hot dog. Michael Sparks, 62, allegedly killed Daniel Menard, 79, and Stephanie Menard, 73, in August 2024, and human remains were found under Sparks’ home at the Olive Dell Ranch Nudist Resort, according to investigators. Sparks and the Menards did not get along, but as detailed in a court hearing Monday, the final straw was a hot dog, the Press-Enterprise reports.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (RHGPo)

250
The Avalanche
Posted by: Stu Podaso

===============

I didn't know about The Avalanche, that's cool. I also found The Thunder and The Lightning. Natural disasters or threats seem to be popular haha. The Hurricanes and the Earthquakes ought to drop the "s."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (wbZPZ)

251 239 Operation Rescue:
BREAKING: DOGE Launches Deep-Dive Investigation into Planned Parenthood – Misuse of Federal Funds, Organ Harvesting, And Other Violations
Posted by: SMOD

You're all under arrest!

Posted by: California AG office at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (JCZqz)

252 @realDonald Trump
We know exactly where the so-called “Supreme Leader” is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there – We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. [gallows laughter] But we don’t want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (Ffc+8)

253 An Iranian woman sends a message to the Islamic regime:

“We will dance on your grave with all our hearts. We now have joy and hope for the future.

Peak Barbara Eden was better. That girl loses points for dancing in the rain but not wearing a white t-shirt.

Wow, this is a tough crowd.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (s8j++)

254 Still Boneless
@still_boneless
What if instead of bombs, we just drop 20M illegals in Iran?

They’re out of our country and Iran gets some much needed diversity.

Everyone wins.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (TGPs7)

255 Max these politicians' sentences so we can laugh again when JD Vance gets elected and no pardon comes for them.

Posted by: Malicious Compliance at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (OBuuS)

256 Doesn't sound good for the mullahs.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 04:23 PM (PfGa7)
++++
This kind of thing has happened before, to great Western excitement about the fall of the Mullahs. Then the Mullahs regroup, put down the nascent rebellion, slaughter the enemies and move right along.

Will the Iranian regime fall? Maybe. Better odds of it today than there were last week. The regime - as is often and fairly accurately (as near as I can tell) pointed out - is fairly incompetent and the basics keep degrading. Given the recent crisis caused by the Israeli decapitation strikes, anything is possible.

But I am not laying bets down. And if it does fall, I hope we can avoid the siren song of "nation building," which is what Gaetz is on about and the term he should have used rather than "regime change." The implication of "regime change" is "our puppet ends up in the big chair," but that isn't what it *necessarily* means. If the Mullahs fall, I don't much care who Iran replaces them with. The new regime will be an enemy, an ally, a rival or a neutral. We can figure out diplomatic positioning and policy in the event that it happens.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (6bTRc)

257 4-6 ? what happened to the 8-12 they were claiming on Sunday ?
Posted by: It's me donna
______________

I'm in a flaming blue city of a half million, metro area. The overhead shot showed, at most, two thousand. For the entire state of 4.5 million, the estimate was 10K. If that held nationwide, it would be around a million. But I'm in a red state, so let's call it 2 million.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 04:31 PM (ITkJX)

258 254 Still Boneless
@still_boneless
What if instead of bombs, we just drop 20M illegals in Iran?

They’re out of our country and Iran gets some much needed diversity.

Everyone wins.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (TGPs7)

======

Just think of the advantages to their GDP and social welfare systems!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:31 PM (GBKbO)

259 Is it just me, or are Progressives REALLY vague about what the law says?

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 04:31 PM (gDhA9)

260 Joe Mannix-
Like my Special Ops friend who does HVT's If you are on a raid and an armed chick pops up, shoot her first. She's the crazy one.

Posted by: DBCooper at June 17, 2025 04:31 PM (61Vt+)

261 What if instead of bombs, we just drop 20M illegals in Iran?

They’re out of our country and Iran gets some much needed diversity.

Everyone wins.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (TGPs7

Altitude?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:31 PM (A5bjg)

262 "and then it occurred to me; they both have a prominent philtrum.
Posted by: Archimedes "

That's hot.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 04:31 PM (fV+MH)

263 244 Cernovich
@Cernovich
If the U.S. had not entered WWII in Europe, then the USSR would have been fully degraded, no lend-lease, and Germany would have still lost.

Care to show your work on that one? Didn't think so.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (s8j++)

You don't expect him to upload his entire playthrough of CKIII with the Star Wars mod and marry-able horses, do you? That's just being unreasonable.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:31 PM (BcT2b)

264 If it's true, presumably there's a record of $1B being paid out. I, too, doubt it very much.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:27 PM (s8j++)

Well, there is that whole Pool of US Aid money that needs spendin...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:31 PM (mP0Kj)

265
As a balding man, I find this flaunting of privilege hair-triggering!
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM

Sorry, whenever I see him all I can think about is his hair. It's a helmet. I want to mess it all up and force him to wear a hat.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 04:32 PM (v2VfP)

266 Unpossible! Trump is murdering old people by the dozen. He's lining up his political enemies and shooting them dead!

The murder rate must be in the brazillions!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (A5bjg)

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He literally murdered six million Jews in his first term alone!

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 04:32 PM (Ss2zz)

267 Taken by 'masked' ICE agents! 🤣

Allegedly, he stated, "I would like to see the warrant, and then I will let go," and "You don't have the warrant, you don't have the authority to arrest U.S. citizens" 🤣

Abusing Federal employees!

Bradford S. Lander is an American politician, urban planner, and community organizer...endorsed by progressives such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Elizabeth Warren.

>New York Times, Mamdani and Lander Cross-Endorse Each Other in N.Y.C. Mayor’s Race
Zohran Mamdani and Brad Lander, the two leading progressive candidates in the race, hope their partnership will help them leverage the ranked-choice voting system to defeat Andrew M. Cuomo, June 13, 2025

>And more recently, Mamdani gets second cross-endorsement in bid to defeat Cuomo in New York City mayor's race, By Eyewitness News WABC, Monday, June 16, 2025

Working Families Party, NY endorsements: New York City -
Zohran Mamdani #1 NYC Mayor New York City
Brad Lander #2 NYC Mayor New York City
Adrienne Adams #3 NYC Mayor New York City
Zellnor Myrie #4 NYC Mayor New York City

There's the Ranked Choice Voting, ganging up on Cuomo.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 04:32 PM (NFX2v)

268 Secret Service Followed Protocol In Padilla Incident

"Sen. Padilla didn’t want answers – he wanted airtime..."

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:32 PM (RHGPo)

269 Another related EMT link: the Pali graduate student that ICE detained won release on original deportation order, but then the judge decided he should remain in custody because he also lied on his visa application. Rubio will likely win this one.

Trumps team are embracing the power of and’ in new, exciting ways, lol!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 04:32 PM (Hkcdp)

270 Cernovich
@Cernovich
If the U.S. had not entered WWII in Europe, then the USSR would have been fully degraded, no lend-lease, and Germany would have still lost. No Cold War.

Of course alternative history is impossible to sketch out fully.

But the post below is midwit tier stuff.

Gad Saad
@GadSaad
"Why should the US enter WWII? The Nazis pose us no threats. Let the Jews deal with their issues in Europe. This is not our problem. No Nazi has ever attacked anyone in Utah or Idaho. Let dictator Churchill worry about the Nazis. Churchill is the bad guy. The Nazis are misunderstood."

[Sounds familiar to current realities?]
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 04:26 PM (TGPs7)

If Saad's post is midwit alt history Cernovich's is far below that. England and the USSR with no Lend Lease would have serious problems winning WWII and of course the Jews would have been eradicated root and branch.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (8avO+)

271 269 Another related EMT link: the Pali graduate student that ICE detained won release on original deportation order, but then the judge decided he should remain in custody because he also lied on his visa application. Rubio will likely win this one.

Trumps team are embracing the power of and’ in new, exciting ways, lol!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 04:32 PM (Hkcdp)

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And the dude's still in a cell.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

272 Not in Utah I don't like the Jazz. They should have renamed the team when it moved. Same thing when the Lakers moved from Minnesota. Or the Arizona Cardinals, which are about the only state that does NOT have Cardinals I think.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM (8avO+)

Calgary Flames 🤣

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (/CkK4)

273 Did Mahmoud Ahmadinejad get taken out?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (77rzZ)

274 239 Operation Rescue:
BREAKING: DOGE Launches Deep-Dive Investigation into Planned Parenthood – Misuse of Federal Funds, Organ Harvesting, And Other Violations
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM (RHGPo)

How can "clumps of tissue" have organs?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (PiwSw)

275 osted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM (8avO+)

yeah not only do those team names just not fit but they are the opposite of what the city/state represents.

LA ain't the state of a thousand lakes much less a city of one.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (VofaG)

276 Gad Saad
@GadSaad
"Why should the US enter WWII? The Nazis pose us no threats. Let the Jews deal with their issues in Europe. This is not our problem. No Nazi has ever attacked anyone in Utah or Idaho. Let dictator Churchill worry about the Nazis. Churchill is the bad guy. The Nazis are misunderstood."

[Sounds familiar to current realities?]
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 04:26 PM (TGPs7)

What kind of revisionist history is this? That was exactly the US's position and the position of the vast majority of Americans. The only reason we got involved in another European war was because Japan attacked us then Germany declared war on us. And lend lease was very unpopular because people felt that FDR and the dems were realllly pushing the line of staying neutral which is what most Americans wanted.

No one got involved in world war 2 because of Jews fighting Hitler or whatever this guy is claiming.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (zuAlv)

277 >> NYC is starting to lose its raison d'être as a hub for culture, wealth, and financial power

Like California, New York is losing its middle class. It’s also largely becoming a place of poor people who can’t move, uber rich, old people and illegal Immigrants. The election system is so corrupt it keeps the same Caribbean Communists running the legislature and a governor who is their figurehead. Representative government will never return until they burn the whole system down and cleanse it with fire. People are tired of waiting for that to happen. That’s why they are the number one state for people leaving. They are also going to collapse when they lose the ability to pilfer federal taxpayers.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (dKqd8)

278 Sorry, whenever I see him all I can think about is his hair. It's a helmet. I want to mess it all up and force him to wear a hat.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 04:32 PM (v2VfP)

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lol

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (Ss2zz)

279 If the Mullahs fall, I don't much care who Iran replaces them with. The new regime will be an enemy, an ally, a rival or a neutral. We can figure out diplomatic positioning and policy in the event that it happens. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (6bTRc)

How could it possibly be worse?

If it's better, we open up trade and commerce. Same or worse, we make sure the new guys know what's in store if they get out of line.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (gDhA9)

280 249 The man who allegedly killed his neighbors at an Inland Empire nudist resort last August reportedly did so over a hot dog. Michael Sparks, 62, allegedly killed Daniel Menard, 79, and Stephanie Menard, 73, in August 2024, and human remains were found under Sparks’ home at the Olive Dell Ranch Nudist Resort, according to investigators. Sparks and the Menards did not get along, but as detailed in a court hearing Monday, the final straw was a hot dog, the Press-Enterprise reports.
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (RHGPo)

Nudists and their hot dogs.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (UGyV5)

281 Busy day , huh?

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 04:34 PM (nQcpu)

282 ACOSTA: "The far-right has figured out a way to infiltrate the heartland."

"As it turns out, a lot of those folks vote in these elections."

"The business model for delivering the news in this country just does not work anymore."

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM (RHGPo)

283 Ok...the hotdog murder at the nudist resort is kinda heartwarming.

The whole story sounds very wrinkly.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM (fV+MH)

284 Is that a long time or not? How long do "Situation Room" meetings usually last?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:17 PM (6bTRc)
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Depends on the situation:

Planning destruction of nuclear bomb program? Yeah, one hour sounds right.

Watching cute puppy youtube videos? 2 hours minimum.

Posted by: WisRich at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM (G0vdT)

285 @still_boneless
What if instead of bombs, we just drop 20M illegals in Iran?

They’re out of our country and Iran gets some much needed diversity.

Everyone wins.
======

Just think of the advantages to their GDP and social welfare systems!
---
While devastating the US as we lose the best and the brightest of the world!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM (G1EQj)

286 I don't believe they even got one million to turn out.

lying liars ... lie. all they got. all they know how to do.

*spit*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM (/Ghsb)

287 The man who allegedly killed his neighbors at an Inland Empire nudist resort last August reportedly did so over a hot dog. Michael Sparks, 62, allegedly killed Daniel Menard, 79, and Stephanie Menard, 73, in August 2024, and human remains were found under Sparks’ home at the Olive Dell Ranch Nudist Resort, according to investigators. Sparks and the Menards did not get along, but as detailed in a court hearing Monday, the final straw was a hot dog, the Press-Enterprise reports.
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (RHGPo)

Nudists and their hot dogs.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM

FA with the wrong choice of using ketchup or not, and FO.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM (Vb7TB)

288 The axis of Evil (named by Bush) included: Iran, Iraq, and North Korea. Also Cuba, Libya, and Syria.

Iraq, Syria, and Libya are basically done. Cuba is broke. North Korea is hanging in there. Iran is heading down the tubes.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM (gDhA9)

289 244 Cernovich
@Cernovich
If the U.S. had not entered WWII in Europe, then the USSR would have been fully degraded, no lend-lease, and Germany would have still lost.

Care to show your work on that one? Didn't think so.

Posted by: Archimedes

Cernovich is a weirdo. Sometimes he'll post something very interesting and has something useful to say. Sadly, most of the time, it's the crap you highlighted above. There must be some game among the leading lights on 'X' to try and top others with 'hot takes' and 'deep thots'. They are all mostly tedious and retarded.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (sAmhv)

290
Not in Utah I don't like the Jazz. They should have renamed the team when it moved. Same thing when the Lakers moved from Minnesota. Or the Arizona Cardinals, which are about the only state that does NOT have Cardinals I think.
Posted by: Oldcat

==============

Well, that's what happens when teams move around. The Steelers or The Padres or The Bills wouldn't make sense outside their areas either.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (wbZPZ)

291 Is the number of protestors being run over rising? Why do those being run over all seem kinda chunky?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (kTd/k)

292 Arnold Schwarzenegger doesn't take the bait when The View's Joy Behar asks him about the ICE raids in California:

"I'm so, so happy to see first-hand that this IS the greatest country in the world and it IS the land of opportunity...

...When you come to America, you're a guest. And you have to behave like a guest...You have a responsibility as an immigrant to give back to America."

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (RHGPo)

293 I'd stay away from nudist camps

They're full of naked people.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (A5bjg)

294 263 244 Cernovich
@Cernovich
If the U.S. had not entered WWII in Europe, then the USSR would have been fully degraded, no lend-lease, and Germany would have still lost.

Care to show your work on that one? Didn't think so.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (s8j++)

You don't expect him to upload his entire playthrough of CKIII with the Star Wars mod and marry-able horses, do you? That's just being unreasonable.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:31 PM (BcT2b)

Well, in my last Hearts of Iron 4 playthrough... it was Hungary who recreated teh Holy Roman Empire... America did not go to war in Europe...

So, just about as accurate as Global Warmering Computer simulations.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (mP0Kj)

295 Brad's mayoral campaign must be struggling. Poor thing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (oXJtT)

296 285 Just think of the advantages to their GDP and social welfare systems!
---
While devastating the US as we lose the best and the brightest of the world!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM (G1EQj)

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It's obvious that racist America is not deserving of their contributions and the hegemon of the Middle East, Iran, can only be strengthened by their contributions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (GBKbO)

297 Hi, this is Meg Barnette, Brad's wife.

While escorting a defendant out of immigration court at 26 Federal Plaza, Brad was taken by masked agents and detained by ICE.
___________________________________

Obstruction: A person commits a misdemeanor of the second degree if he intentionally obstructs, impairs or perverts the administration of law or other governmental function by force, violence, physical interference or obstacle, breach of official duty, or any other unlawful act, except that this section does not apply to flight by a person charged with crime, refusal to submit to arrest, failure to perform a legal duty other than an official duty, or any other means of avoiding compliance with law without affirmative interference with governmental functions.
____________________________

Meg is, apparently, an idiot in that she describes her husband's actions to reflect the definition of Obstruction. We should thank her.

Posted by: Orson at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (dIske)

298 I don't believe they even got one million to turn out.

lying liars ... lie. all they got. all they know how to do.

*spit*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM

It's not a lie if you believe it.

Posted by: George Constanza (D-NY) at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (Vb7TB)

299 273 Did Mahmoud Ahmadinejad get taken out?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (77rzZ)

I thought he moved to England or something and has been taking pot shots at Khamenei online for a while now? I remember reading something he posted and thinking "wow, this dude really chilled the eff out, didn't he?"

Maybe i dreamt that.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:37 PM (BcT2b)

300 I didn't know about The Avalanche, that's cool. I also found The Thunder and The Lightning. Natural disasters or threats seem to be popular haha. The Hurricanes and the Earthquakes ought to drop the "s."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:30 PM (wbZPZ)

In the 19th Century the Louisville Colonels renamed their team the Cyclones after tornadoes leveled the town.

I never liked the singular team name. They are a cluster of 20 little cyclones or hurricanes.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:37 PM (8avO+)

301 My city went 60% for Trump and the county went 70% for Trump. I'd estimate around a thousand demonstrators. Mostly Boomers and blue-haired (literally) Millennials. Very few 20-somethings from what I saw, and far more women than men. The Boomers were much closer to sex parity than the Millennials, who were overwhelmingly women. A handful of kids dragged along by the parents or grandparents.

Even if there were a lot of carpet-baggers bussed in to man the line (possible), that indicates that the Party views my town as important. Astonishing turnout for my burg, and deeply worrying regardless of the specifics.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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The blue hairs are the ones still relying on mainstream media and nostalgia for Democrat politics of their youth. They never grew out of either of them and its too late for them to realize their error.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:37 PM (ctrM5)

302 Charlie Kirk

@charliekirk11
This is insane. Regime change will result in a bloody civil war, killing hundreds of thousands and creating another massive Muslim refugee crisis. Topping a leader is NEVER as easy you think. It almost always results in further involvement, a civil war, and chaos. Resist this!

TheBlaze
@theblaze
Lindsey Graham: "I would like to see this regime fall. If we don't take out their nuclear program now, we'll all regret it. We're very close. Be all in, Mr. President, in helping Israel finish the job."

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 04:37 PM (TGPs7)

303 If diversity is our strength, how come almost all of the diversity we import are doing menial jobs that require little to no training or education?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:37 PM (G1EQj)

304 Supposedly 1 million aliens have been deported under the get $1000 reward to go home without charges program.

If so, that's a big deal. And may spread faster.
Posted by: Moron Analyst

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All we have so far is statistics from the BLS and the Census.

According to the Census' monthly survey, the foreign born population in the US has decreased by 750,000.

According to the BLS, the foreign born workers in the US workforce have decreased by 1,000,000.

I suspect that this range (750K to 1 mil) is on the low end of how many people have left.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu

I was wondering why it was getting easier to find parking.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 04:37 PM (NHiEn)

305 "Gentleman, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 04:37 PM (6ydKt)

306 My truck got damaged hitting a deer. A land whale would total it.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 04:38 PM (P9gC0)

307 Calgary Flames 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (/CkK4)

Reminds of the King ion the Hill episode where Dale got Hank a bowling shirt with Flamer as the nickname on the shirt.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:38 PM (VofaG)

308 Iirc, Cernovich likes to keep his followers count below a certain level, so he will post polarizing stuff to get rid of random followers.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 04:38 PM (Hkcdp)

309
@Cernovich
If the U.S. had not entered WWII in Europe, then the USSR would have been fully degraded, no lend-lease, and Germany would have still lost.

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These are the people that I just had to do jury duty with who wouldn't convict a guy with a .371 BAC of DUI. They're smarter than history itself, smarter than the case itself, smarter than math itself, smarter than the facts themselves. People complain that women have this specifically female reasoning deficit (excessive emotion), but men have a big one, too.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (wbZPZ)

310 Why the League has not stepped in? With some the very blatant ASSAULTS that are going on during games? Must be because of the publicity.
Posted by: Romeo13
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Because the League is not there to make money due to NBA subsidization but there to make a political point. Plus, the controversy probably gets their marketing team hot and bothered. Controversy sells tickets just as crashes did for auto racing.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (ctrM5)

311 While devastating the US as we lose the best and the brightest of the world!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM (G1EQj)

Oh pish, everyone looks bright like that on re-entry.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (BcT2b)

312 @charliekirk11
This is insane. Regime change will result in a bloody civil war, killing hundreds of thousands and creating another massive Muslim refugee crisis. Topping a leader is NEVER as easy you think. It almost always results in further involvement, a civil war, and chaos. Resist this!

Could be but what does Kirk think should be done ? Make a "deal" with the Mullah's ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (VE6XX)

313 When asked specifically about this kind of violence in Los Angeles recently, 68% said the violators must be prosecuted. Only 21% deem such charges as "not important." Among men, 74% believe in criminal consequences, and only 18% disagree. In addition, nearly two-thirds of Hispanics (64%) demand these prosecutions.
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See, we told you Hispanics are naturally conservative!
-GOPe

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (Dv3i1)

314 "Every Democrat with ambition is going to arrange to get arrested.

It will escalate. "

Yep. This is their civil rights movement they all long for and any confrontation or arrest will only raise their street cred. Except those killed graveyard dead.

Posted by: Ripley at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (21TM2)

315 Why are all the nudists over 60?

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (v0R5T)

316 Not in Utah I don't like the Jazz. They should have renamed the team when it moved. Same thing when the Lakers moved from Minnesota. Or the Arizona Cardinals, which are about the only state that does NOT have Cardinals I think.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:28 PM

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: Brooklyn Dodgers at June 17, 2025 04:40 PM (Vb7TB)

317 I don't think we need to topple the head dude in Iran. But I do think we should vaporize every military asset they have, including the nuke labs.

Which, Israel is doing.

And a lot of people are secretly happy they are, while outwardly screaming Bad Jew!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:40 PM (A5bjg)

318 These are the people that I just had to do jury duty with who wouldn't convict a guy with a .371 BAC of DUI.

Good Lord, when was the funeral?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:40 PM (s8j++)

319 294 263 244 Cernovich
@Cernovich
If the U.S. had not entered WWII in Europe, then the USSR would have been fully degraded, no lend-lease, and Germany would have still lost.

Care to show your work on that one? Didn't think so.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (s8j++)

You don't expect him to upload his entire playthrough of CKIII with the Star Wars mod and marry-able horses, do you? That's just being unreasonable.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 04:31 PM (BcT2b)

Well, in my last Hearts of Iron 4 playthrough... it was Hungary who recreated teh Holy Roman Empire... America did not go to war in Europe...

So, just about as accurate as Global Warmering Computer simulations.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 04:36 PM (mP0Kj)

In all seriousness, anyone who has ever played a theater-wide tabletop WWII wargame understands that Germany could hold its own against a USSR absent the US in Europe, including its strategic bombing, particularly without lend lease. Cernovich is off his rocker.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 04:40 PM (UGyV5)

320 A friend of mine from Michigan once said, "sure, it's more prestigious to be from New York, but it's more bad-ass to be from Detroit".

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 04:40 PM (mADJX)

321 Cerno is good at politics but a total idiot on history. He's given cranks like Graham Hancock much more attention than they deserve (which is none).

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 04:40 PM (gKWVE)

322
@charliekirk11
This is insane. Regime change will result in a bloody civil war, killing hundreds of thousands and creating another massive Muslim refugee crisis. Topping a leader is NEVER as easy you think. It almost always results in further involvement, a civil war, and chaos. Resist this!

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Fine, Charlie. Let's give ourselves back to England.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:40 PM (wbZPZ)

323 Read a comment on another blog that some of the X people are in hysterics, I guess from the arrest of that faggot in NYC, that Americans are now being deported.

Between this and juggling the shrieking of President Trump going to war there must be a lot of action on toilets today, flushing over and over, while grossly hanging on to their phones for dear life (yug).

I figure their pus is boiling beneath the pustule as pre-volcanic action, like the one that blew in Indonesia today. Thankful that I am no longer freaking out about much of anything. Que sera sera.

Reading about women older than me, or Dims of all ages since the election, WEEPING over President Trump, who is not a king. This is so retarded. I never wept a tear with Oblahma nor Bidet. I never joined sweaty June marches or threw things or had a tantrum. I mocked wildly instead and hoped either of the buffoons would fall down the stairs of AF1 on camera.

Thankful President Trump won!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 04:41 PM (6PCLE)

324 ACOSTA: "The far-right has figured out a way to infiltrate the heartland."
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LOLWUT? "Middle America" has always been more conservative than "Coastal America." If this is news to Acosta, he is *truly* in the bubble.

"As it turns out, a lot of those folks vote in these elections."
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Ya don't say?! You mean citizens in the "flyover states" you so hate are citizens with rights? Amazing.

"The business model for delivering the news in this country just does not work anymore."
I see he managed to stop short of adding "... and I long for the total propaganda control we used to have before people had literally any other alternative."
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:35 PM (RHGPo)
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What an asshole.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:41 PM (6bTRc)

325
No wonder why the "mayoral candidate" pulled this stunt: he's competing against a full-blown marxist woke muslim. and has no hope of winning of the D primary unless he goos Full Woke Retard.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 04:41 PM (h0F3f)

326 They lost the presidential election in November and they haven't learned a thing. They can keep on with their pro criminal agenda, and their pro illegal alien agenda.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 04:41 PM (0Htd1)

327 324 What an asshole.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:41 PM (6bTRc)

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I resemble that comment!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

328 BTW, Brad Lander's wife is Meg Barnette. She is the Chief of Staff at Planned Parenthood NYC.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (NFX2v)

329 326 They lost the presidential election in November and they haven't learned a thing. They can keep on with their pro criminal agenda, and their pro illegal alien agenda.
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 17, 2025 04:41 PM (0Htd1)

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Their activist base and their donors demand public displays of stupidity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

330 Hi, this is Meg Barnette, Brad's wife.
While escorting a defendant out of immigration court at 26 Federal Plaza, Brad was taken by masked agents and detained by ICE.

May I suggest using your night sticks officers?

Posted by: Billy Ray Valentine at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (/xbAD)

331 Why are the nudists over 60?

A guess?
Younger generations are embracing the “gender is fluid” I’m non- binary crap, which is a lot harder to pull off if you have your tits or d&ck flopping around all exposed .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (Hkcdp)

332 Could be but what does Kirk think should be done ? Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM

Shields up! Fire phasers! Bang the green alien chick. Save the Universe again.

Simple. Barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: J. Tiberius Kirk at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (Vb7TB)

333 In all seriousness, anyone who has ever played a theater-wide tabletop WWII wargame understands that Germany could hold its own against a USSR absent the US in Europe, including its strategic bombing, particularly without lend lease. Cernovich is off his rocker.

The Russians figured they could win the war themselves, and they might have been right, but that assumes we supplied them the way we did. Without our material support, there's no way in hell.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (s8j++)

334 312 @charliekirk11
This is insane. Regime change will result in a bloody civil war, killing hundreds of thousands and creating another massive Muslim refugee crisis. Topping a leader is NEVER as easy you think. It almost always results in further involvement, a civil war, and chaos. Resist this!

Could be but what does Kirk think should be done ? Make a "deal" with the Mullah's ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (VE6XX)

Not to mention that Kirk is flat out wrong, because he has no understanding of Iran. Civil War's happen in places like Iraq, which was about 40% Shia, 30% Kurd, and 20% Sunni, and none of them wanted to be ruled by any of the others. Syria has got the same problem; Libya has never been more than a pack of desert camel humpers.

But Iran is an ancient people, nominally Shia but many dedicated to the older ways. They're going to hang together, they have no need of a civil war, unless it is to get rid of the remnants of the IRGC.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (uWKK8)

335 > Reminds of the King ion the Hill episode where Dale got Hank a bowling shirt with Flamer as the nickname on the shirt.

Dale: I guess I could have gone with, "Propane Man."

Hank: No, Flamer's cooler.

Nancy was right there, too. You know she knew what "flamer" meant, even if Dale didn't.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 04:43 PM (lIio7)

336
Their activist base and their donors demand public displays of stupidity.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

Well they're certainly getting their money's worth

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:43 PM (VE6XX)

337 People complain that women have this specifically female reasoning deficit (excessive emotion), but men have a big one, too.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (wbZPZ)

One thing Cerno gets right is "mansplaining". There's a reason the term "jackass" is from the male donkey, not the female ("jennet").
Sorry your jury room turned out to be a stable.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 04:43 PM (gKWVE)

338 What kind of revisionist history is this? That was exactly the US's position and the position of the vast majority of Americans. The only reason we got involved in another European war was because Japan attacked us then Germany declared war on us. And lend lease was very unpopular because people felt that FDR and the dems were realllly pushing the line of staying neutral which is what most Americans wanted.

No one got involved in world war 2 because of Jews fighting Hitler or whatever this guy is claiming.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (zuAlv)

We were involved in the European theatre long before Dec 1941. We gave 50 ships to escort British convoys, even crewed some of them, and eventually sent more and escorted convoys halfway across the Atlantic with USN ships.

When the Bismarck set sail in May 41 the US Atlantic fleet sortied its battleships and sailed towards an intercept itself but the damaged ship turned back toward Europe.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:43 PM (8avO+)

339 Charlie Kirk hanging around with Candace Owens I see

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 04:43 PM (akw+7)

340 Iran has been a problem all of my life. Since Carter's fiasco and the Olympics.

I'm beyond tired of their saber rattling, terrorist sponsoring bullshit.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:43 PM (A5bjg)

341 336
Their activist base and their donors demand public displays of stupidity.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

Well they're certainly getting their money's worth
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:43 PM (VE6XX)

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"We need fighters!"
"Okay, I'll get arrested trying to protect a pedo from deportation."
"Huzzah! Fight!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:43 PM (GBKbO)

342 These are the people that I just had to do jury duty with who wouldn't convict a guy with a .371 BAC of DUI.

This is precisely why, as I wrote here some time back, after recounting my experience on a jury in a criminal trial in Miami, that if I'm ever called up for jury duty again, I will plead guilty to the charges, myself, and they can just march me straight to the gallows, because I cannot bear to spend another three or four days of my life locked in a room with morons.

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 04:44 PM (mADJX)

343 The older I get, the more I realize that the world is full of stupid smart people.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:45 PM (A5bjg)

344 Not to mention that Kirk is flat out wrong, because he has no understanding of Iran. Civil War's happen in places like Iraq, which was about 40% Shia, 30% Kurd, and 20% Sunni, and none of them wanted to be ruled by any of the others. Syria has got the same problem; Libya has never been more than a pack of desert camel humpers.

But Iran is an ancient people, nominally Shia but many dedicated to the older ways. They're going to hang together, they have no need of a civil war, unless it is to get rid of the remnants of the IRGC.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (uWKK

If you implement a form of self rule for provinces, most potential new Shahs might well be content with ruling their district rather than testing a civil war for all of it.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:45 PM (8avO+)

345 These are the people that I just had to do jury duty with who wouldn't convict a guy with a .371 BAC of DUI. They're smarter than history itself, smarter than the case itself, smarter than math itself, smarter than the facts themselves. People complain that women have this specifically female reasoning deficit (excessive emotion), but men have a big one, too.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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My guess is that the males have been watching YT videos of bad actors with a badge and gun in the name of catching Drunk Drivers or druggies.

Got so bad in Tennessee that you had a bunch of totally sober drivers being falsely accused of being drunk from failing their various dubious DUI field sobriety tests. Some of the folks were begging to be breath analyzed instead.

I taught criminal law for about twenty years as well as constitutional law in general. Simply put, the police are generally not your friend--they view their jobs as catching criminals and for some leos, they see so many bad actors of various stripes that they decide everyone is a criminal which makes it their job to put them away by any means necessary.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:45 PM (ctrM5)

346 Kirk has a lot to learn.

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 04:45 PM (nQcpu)

347 Like the episode of Arrested Development
Old man Bluth in prison " he's a flamer"
Son "he's gay?"
Old man Bluth "no you idiot he's an arsonist,"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 04:45 PM (akw+7)

348 Was there a big civil war in Iraq after we dethroned Saddam? I know there was a lot of Shia/Sunni violence but Iran doesn't have that problem. They are mostly all Shia.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:46 PM (VofaG)

349 Huge portion of Iran is Azeri. Does Kirk ( who I generally like) have any idea what that means?

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 04:46 PM (nQcpu)

350 French Stratotankers fly into combat zones with their transponders on.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 04:46 PM (P9gC0)

351 337 People complain that women have this specifically female reasoning deficit (excessive emotion), but men have a big one, too.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (wbZPZ)

One thing Cerno gets right is "mansplaining". There's a reason the term "jackass" is from the male donkey, not the female ("jennet").
Sorry your jury room turned out to be a stable.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 04:43 PM (gKWVE)

I vowed, after nearly throwing up, never to read or trust a word cern said after he dated a trans and then described, in horrible English, what it was like to go down on him. That was many years ago, but I read it from his own blog. Then deleted immediately a link to his writing. Think on that and then hurl.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 04:46 PM (6PCLE)

352 348 Was there a big civil war in Iraq after we dethroned Saddam? I know there was a lot of Shia/Sunni violence but Iran doesn't have that problem. They are mostly all Shia.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:46 PM (VofaG)

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The Surge wasn't because things were going well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:46 PM (GBKbO)

353 Kirk has a lot to learn.
Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 04:45 PM (nQcpu)

Well he did solve the kobayashi maru.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (MGB5H)

354 This is truly turning into Madness Season for Democrats

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (BNLtx)

355 We were involved in the European theatre long before Dec 1941. We gave 50 ships to escort British convoys, even crewed some of them, and eventually sent more and escorted convoys halfway across the Atlantic with USN ships.

When the Bismarck set sail in May 41 the US Atlantic fleet sortied its battleships and sailed towards an intercept itself but the damaged ship turned back toward Europe.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:43 PM (8avO+)

The ships were escorting lend lease equipment going to Britain to help them fight the war. And basically begging the Germans to attack the US to bring us in to the war.

As I said it was very unpopular. If I recall something like 70% of Americans were against getting involved in World War Two prior to Pearl Harbor.

Especially republicans. That is the era when the term "isolationist" started being used as an insult against republicans. Which has recently made a comeback as an insult to traditional republican voters.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (zuAlv)

356
ACOSTA:
"The business model for delivering the news in this country just does not work anymore."
Posted by: SMOD

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lol Jim, how's Substack doing? Shake your fist at that cloud.

I guess he means we're not being strapped down and implanted with CNN chips.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (wbZPZ)

357 346 Kirk has a lot to learn.
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Indubitably.

Posted by: Spock at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (Dv3i1)

358 > Posted by: Spock at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (Dv3i1)

You're dead.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (lIio7)

359 about Iran

Iran claims that the Internet was down, and then I thought Musk said Starlink would hook them up to the Internet. Is there any idea if Iranians heard Prince Pahlavi's speech?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 04:48 PM (ghk1f)

360 We were involved in the European theatre long before Dec 1941. We gave 50 ships to escort British convoys, even crewed some of them, and eventually sent more and escorted convoys halfway across the Atlantic with USN ships.

When the Bismarck set sail in May 41 the US Atlantic fleet sortied its battleships and sailed towards an intercept itself but the damaged ship turned back toward Europe.
Posted by: Oldcat

We were also fighting the Germans in Greenland.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:48 PM (77rzZ)

361 Not to mention that Kirk is flat out wrong, because he has no understanding of Iran. Civil War's happen in places like Iraq, which was about 40% Shia, 30% Kurd, and 20% Sunni, and none of them wanted to be ruled by any of the others. Syria has got the same problem; Libya has never been more than a pack of desert camel humpers.

But Iran is an ancient people, nominally Shia but many dedicated to the older ways. They're going to hang together, they have no need of a civil war, unless it is to get rid of the remnants of the IRGC.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (uWKK

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The Iranian revolution was 10 years old by the time Ol' Charlie Kirk was born.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 04:48 PM (oXJtT)

362 yeah not only do those team names just not fit but they are the opposite of what the city/state represents.

LA ain't the state of a thousand lakes much less a city of one.
Posted by: polynikes

Intro to 'Baseketball':

"...the Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don’t allow music. The Oakland Raiders moved to L.A. and then back to Oakland. No one in Los Angeles seemed to notice..."

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (NHiEn)

363 Countries can normally deploy about 15% of their male population in a serious war.

The Soviets got twice that. Why? Because of Lend Lease.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (t0Rmr)

364 Charlie Kirk needs to take a little closer look at just how totally screwed Iran is from an economic point of view. The only thing that transforms their infrastructure and economic outlook back from the stone age is the ability to re-open markets and trade with willing participants beyond current sanctions. The current Theocracy just prints money or ignores the problem(s). The internal corruption of Iran is legendary. They can't provide electricity in a dependable fashion to their own people, but the mullahs sell it to other countries.

Personally, I think the decapitation of leaders by Israel makes for an opportunity to have a relatively bloodless change of power. Pakistan is anticipating this an has already closed its border with Iran.

Posted by: Orson at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (dIske)

365 @charliekirk11
This is insane. Regime change will result in a bloody civil war, killing hundreds of thousands and creating another massive Muslim refugee crisis. Topping a leader is NEVER as easy you think. It almost always results in further involvement, a civil war, and chaos. Resist this!

Could be but what does Kirk think should be done ? Make a "deal" with the Mullah's ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:39 PM (VE6XX)
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Iran has been making general war in the region for a very, very long time and the primary victim has finally gotten sick of it. Iranian proxies and their constant warfare have focused primarily on Israel and to a much lesser degree us (the Houthis come immediately to mind for the latter).

Israel is now retaliating as, in my opinion, she should. If Iran collapses, it will be utter chaos. Civil war is possible. A bloodbath is virtually certain. The state of affairs in the aftermath will be extremely hairy to navigate and the regional power dynamic will be alien. All of that is true. Avoiding that at the cost of shoring up Iran's "war at all costs in all theaters" regime is a hard thing to argue for in my opinion.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (6bTRc)

366 LA ain't the state of a thousand lakes much less a city of one.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:33 PM (VofaG)

Not even a properly maintained reservoir,. Maybe they should rename the team to California Cinders ..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (bA75n)

367 358 > Posted by: Spock at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (Dv3i1)

You're dead.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (lIio7)

A few times by my count.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (6ydKt)

368 Today is nothing like WWII. People should stop comparing apples to persimmons.

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (nQcpu)

369 322 Fine, Charlie. Let's give ourselves back to England. - Blonde Morticia

LOL!

Btw, just curious: did you choose your nic because Carolyn Jones was, in fact, a natural blonde (or strawberry blonde, I believe)?

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (mADJX)

370 368 Today is nothing like WWII. People should stop comparing apples to persimmons.
Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (nQcpu)

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So, it's like Vietnam?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (GBKbO)

371 52 348 Was there a big civil war in Iraq after we dethroned Saddam? I know there was a lot of Shia/Sunni violence but Iran doesn't have that problem. They are mostly all Shia.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:46 PM (VofaG)

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The Surge wasn't because things were going well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:46 PM (GBKbO)

lol. Unbelievable how short peoples memories are.

Yes Iraq essentially turned in a failed state after we toppled saddam. Thats why we had to occupy the country for so long and why to this day we still have our largest embassy in the world there to house the CIA operatives working nonstop to keep Iraq from becoming a true failed state. And even with all of that it’s still an absolute shithole and is still draining tons of money from the treasury.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 04:50 PM (zuAlv)

372 308 Iirc, Cernovich likes to keep his followers count below a certain level, so he will post polarizing stuff to get rid of random followers.
Posted by: Lizzy
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I've found him mainly an attention seeking wanker from way back when he was a buddy of Vox Day.

Those that pop up as wannabe public intellectuals use all sorts of rhetorical tricks straight from ancient Greece tuned up for modern consumption.

Wise people admit when they are wrong, revise their opinions to match actual facts from time to time, and never try to apply first principles as an iron clad law depending on the actual circumstances.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:50 PM (ctrM5)

373 In all seriousness, anyone who has ever played a theater-wide tabletop WWII wargame understands that Germany could hold its own against a USSR absent the US in Europe, including its strategic bombing, particularly without lend lease. Cernovich is off his rocker.

The Russians figured they could win the war themselves, and they might have been right, but that assumes we supplied them the way we did. Without our material support, there's no way in hell.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (s8j++)

Germany alone, perhaps. Germany and occupied Europe, that's another story.

Russia was running into serious manpower deficits in the 44-45 period in the infantry (as was the UK). The sexy tanks and artillery forces suffer few losses in men relative to the poor bloody infantry. When Russia took over a new slice of their western regions they'd strip the locals still alive of all their fighting age men and it still wasn't enough.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:50 PM (8avO+)

374 Kirk kicked Spock's ass at 3d chess.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 04:50 PM (fV+MH)

375 So, it's like Vietnam?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (GBKbO)

Gaugamela.

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 04:51 PM (nQcpu)

376 368 Today is nothing like WWII. People should stop comparing apples to persimmons.
Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (nQcpu)

On that we can all agree.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 04:51 PM (zuAlv)

377 So, it's like Vietnam?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (GBKbO)
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What the fuck has Viet Nam got to do with it?!

Posted by: The Dude at June 17, 2025 04:51 PM (6YdsJ)

378 So, it's like Vietnam?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:49 PM (GBKbO)

Why isn't anything like another Chaco War?

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:51 PM (8avO+)

379 Or the Arizona Cardinals, which are about the only state that does NOT have Cardinals I think.

The color, not the bird.

Posted by: The Stanford Cardinal at June 17, 2025 04:51 PM (tPOKY)

380 Is Iran even sending any missiles into Israel now ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:51 PM (VE6XX)

381 Hi, this is Meg Barnette, Brad's wife.
While escorting a defendant out of immigration court at 26 Federal Plaza, Brad was taken by masked agents and detained by ICE.
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Hi Meg, this is Reality calling. You chose unwisely when you married that bumbling prick, and Brad chose unwisely when he decided to interfere in a Federal matter with no standing or jurisdiction of his own. Go peddle crazy elsewhere.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 04:51 PM (TN0g+)

382
My guess is that the males have been watching YT videos of bad actors with a badge and gun in the name of catching Drunk Drivers or druggies.

Posted by: whig

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No, the cops' actions were not in question at all. It was all arguments about the numbers.

In fact, I think one reason the men balked at conviction is that the lab expert was a young female and the prosecutor was a Demi Moore age 28 clone and the guys wouldn't have these women putting one over on them.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:52 PM (wbZPZ)

383 Kirk kicked Spock's ass at 3d chess.
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 04:50 PM

A Klingon just knocks over the board when losing.

Posted by: Worf, son of Mogh at June 17, 2025 04:52 PM (Vb7TB)

384 But who will do our cockfighting???
* don't answer that

@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: ICE just conducted a massive raid in Blount County, Alabama. 55 illegals were arrested for illegal cockfighting and gambling.

Two firearms and more than $100,000 were recovered during the bust. Some of the illegals had been previously deported.

The illegal operation was reportedly tied to a larger crime network that involves unlawful gambling, drug trafficking, and violent offenses.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 04:52 PM (mlg/3)

385 380 Is Iran even sending any missiles into Israel now ?
Posted by: It's me donna
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I think a few shot off last night but none reached their target.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:52 PM (ctrM5)

386 I vowed, after nearly throwing up, never to read or trust a word cern said after he dated a trans and then described, in horrible English, what it was like to go down on him. That was many years ago, but I read it from his own blog. Then deleted immediately a link to his writing. Think on that and then hurl.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 04:46 PM (6PCLE)

Wait. WTF?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 04:52 PM (UGyV5)

387 Not currently. They aren't even making it to the tv cameras when they do.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM (P9gC0)

388 Why isn't anything like another Chaco War?
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:51 PM (8avO+)
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War of the Triple Alliance FTW.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM (6YdsJ)

389 No cockfighting on premises!!

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM (nQcpu)

390 The Russians figured they could win the war themselves, and they might have been right, but that assumes we supplied them the way we did. Without our material support, there's no way in hell.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 04:42 PM (s8j++)
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The key elements to the USSR's victory were their tolerance for spilling Russian blood and their ability to crank out rockets, artillery tanks and small arms.

That latter part was enabled *entirely* by Lend-Lease, because LL freed them up to do *only* that and convert every Soviet industrial plant to production of guns, rockets, artillery and tanks. We supplied everything else and the Red Army's generally mobility was courtesy of Studebaker. If the USSR had to produce everything else we were giving them, it would have been a very different story. Could they have won anyway? Who knows. My guess is "probably not" but of course I have no way to know that.

But the German who described his depressed horror at seeing "yet another Russian robot on an American truck" (I have no recollection of where I read that) wasn't blowing smoke. Without Studebaker, it's entirely possible that USSR would have lost.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM (6bTRc)

391 385 380 Is Iran even sending any missiles into Israel now ?
Posted by: It's me donna
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I think a few shot off last night but none reached their target.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:52 PM (ctrM5)

I'm thinking Israel may not need our "help". Just the threat of it...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM (VE6XX)

392 I don't care who runs Iran as long as they accept that they are a 3rd tier country, at best, and just look to the prosperity of their citizens.

If they want a foreign adventure, they can conquer Afghanistan.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM (jc0TO)

393 Holy fucking shit, stop conflating crap.

FDR traded 50 Clemson class World War I destroyers for British bases.

Separate issue was FDR's Neutrality Patrols where US Navy destroyers would escort convoys towards a point near Iceland and then hand them off to British warships. Which resulted in the Niblack and Reuben James incidents.

American battleships sortieing for Bismarck? Can you provide proof because having read a lot of the Battle of the Atlantic books I have never run across such a reference.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM (BNLtx)

394 The color, not the bird.
Posted by: The Stanford Cardinal at June 17, 2025 04:51 PM

The bird is the word.

Posted by: The Trashmen at June 17, 2025 04:54 PM (Vb7TB)

395 "A Klingon just knocks over the board when losing.
Posted by: Worf, son of Mogh"

My sister was a Monopoly Klingon.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 04:54 PM (fV+MH)

396
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:52 PM (wbZPZ)

to add: if anything, the cop's action was almost criminally lax.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:54 PM (wbZPZ)

397 Kirk kicked Spock's ass at 3d chess.
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And Spock beat the computer 3 times in a row at 3d chess. It shouldn't have happened...and yet it did. *eyebrow raise*

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 04:54 PM (TN0g+)

398 We were also fighting the Germans in Greenland.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:48 PM (77rzZ)

Peeps must have been so proud fighting keep the Germans from knowing the weather.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:54 PM (8avO+)

399 I got here too late, didn’t I???

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 04:55 PM (PCK5/)

400 384 But who will do our cockfighting???
* don't answer that

@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: ICE just conducted a massive raid in Blount County, Alabama. 55 illegals were arrested for illegal cockfighting and gambling.

Two firearms and more than $100,000 were recovered during the bust. Some of the illegals had been previously deported.

The illegal operation was reportedly tied to a larger crime network that involves unlawful gambling, drug trafficking, and violent offenses.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 04:52 PM (mlg/3

Just fun lovin 'Mericans havin a good time down on the farm!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:55 PM (A5bjg)

401 A Klingon just knocks over the board when losing.
Posted by: Worf, son of Mogh

Now that I think of it, I don't think they ever filmed Worf playing chess. Can anyone think of a time they did?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 04:55 PM (lIio7)

402 The bird is the word.
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Johnny is a joker...

Posted by: Don & Phil at June 17, 2025 04:55 PM (TN0g+)

403 The US and UK did supply armor to the USSR, the Soviets even called the M-4 Sherman the "Echma."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 04:56 PM (BNLtx)

404 Okay.. GP has a poll that say 85% don't want us to send weapons to Israel.... Hard to believe we could get 85 % to agree on anything.. I call BS on that one

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:56 PM (VE6XX)

405 The Plymouth Philtrum was a novel concept car intended to rival the Chevy Corvette. With a 426 Hemi, 4 barrel Holley, Hooker headers and Thrush mufflers on a dual tuned exhaust, it was designed to pass anything but a filling station.

More timid souls prevailed, however, and the project was scrapped in favor of luxury grocery getters like the Gran Fury and the Chrysler Newport.

Pity.

Posted by: Husbands at June 17, 2025 04:56 PM (y/iut)

406
Just fun lovin 'Mericans havin a good time down on the farm!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:55 PM (A5bjg)

After doing the jobs Americans won't do

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:56 PM (VE6XX)

407 405 was me.

Posted by: Car nerd at June 17, 2025 04:57 PM (y/iut)

408 Hi Meg, this is Reality calling. You chose unwisely when you married that bumbling prick, and Brad chose unwisely when he decided to interfere in a Federal matter with no standing or jurisdiction of his own. Go peddle crazy elsewhere.
Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 04:51 PM (TN0g+)

Come sit by me.

Posted by: Gwen Walz at June 17, 2025 04:57 PM (PiwSw)

409 348 Was there a big civil war in Iraq after we dethroned Saddam? I know there was a lot of Shia/Sunni violence but Iran doesn't have that problem. They are mostly all Shia.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:46 PM (VofaG)

Not precisely, and certainly not the way Libya has. The country is effectively at least three different regions and cultures. The Kurdish area, the Sunni Arab area, and the oil rich Shia Arab area. Because of this they struggle to have effective power sharing agreements in their central government, but there's less active oppression than under Saddam.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 17, 2025 04:57 PM (okun6)

410
@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: ICE just conducted a massive raid in Blount County, Alabama. 55 illegals were arrested for illegal cockfighting and gambling.

Posted by: weft cut-loop

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I'm sick of the cultural shit they bring here. Did I mention, the .371 BAC driver was Hispanic and he was on his way to a construction job where his Hispanic boss was already trashed on brandy?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:57 PM (wbZPZ)

411 A Klingon just knocks over the board when losing.
Posted by: Worf, son of Mogh

Now that I think of it, I don't think they ever filmed Worf playing chess. Can anyone think of a time they did?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 04:55 PM (lIio7)

Crossing streams, but seeing Chewbacca and Worf playing chess on the Millennium Falcon would be hilarious. Once the chess match is over, which one wins the real match?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 04:57 PM (S/Y4j)

412 Peeps must have been so proud fighting keep the Germans from knowing the weather.
Posted by: Oldcat

The Nazis could've 86'd the whole genocide thing and gotten use of the Jews' weather machine. But noooooo...

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:58 PM (77rzZ)

413 I'm thinking Israel may not need our "help". Just the threat of it...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM (VE6XX)

YES! THIS!!!!^^^^

I simply cannot believe the hysteria I am reading elsewhere from people I sort of "know" on the Internet. They have fallen for the MSM propaganda and X propaganda hook, line/lies, and sinker!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 04:58 PM (6PCLE)

414 American battleships sortieing for Bismarck? Can you provide proof because having read a lot of the Battle of the Atlantic books I have never run across such a reference.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM

Sink the Bismark was the battle cry
that shook the Seven Seas.

Posted by: Johnny Horton at June 17, 2025 04:58 PM (0sNs1)

415 After doing the jobs Americans won't do

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 04:56 PM (VE6XX

Who doesn't blow off steam with some cock fighting and machine guns?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 04:58 PM (A5bjg)

416
I'm sick of the cultural shit they bring here. Did I mention, the .371 BAC driver was Hispanic and he was on his way to a construction job where his Hispanic boss was already trashed on brandy?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

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Oh, and in his DEFENSE, he said this was customary.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 04:58 PM (wbZPZ)

417 We don't usually let car nerds in here.

Posted by: Trek Nerd at June 17, 2025 04:58 PM (fV+MH)

418 *384 But who will do our cockfighting???*

Little Jerry!!

Posted by: Kramer at June 17, 2025 04:58 PM (y/iut)

419 No, the cops' actions were not in question at all. It was all arguments about the numbers.

In fact, I think one reason the men balked at conviction is that the lab expert was a young female and the prosecutor was a Demi Moore age 28 clone and the guys wouldn't have these women putting one over on them.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Interesting. Could be their personal interactions with women in the past then predisposed how they were going to treat the evidence. But I do know there is a wide and getting wider divergence in young men and young women in their views of each sex and their views on society and politics.

Just curious. Was it a six or twelve person jury? Six person juries are much more likely to have a couple of assholes trying to dominate the jury discussion. There are some studies out there indicating that twelve is better. And my personal experience was actually the opposite on such a jury back in grad school days. It was two guys insisting that the cops were right and the accused should be guilty. Quote from one: "If the police charged them then they must be guilty"

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:59 PM (ctrM5)

420 Germany fighting on only one front except for Britain in North Africa would have kicked Russia's ass imo and would have had twice the armament and man power. They would have also likely made the jet sooner.

one of Hitler's biggest mistakes was declaring war on the US after Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:59 PM (VofaG)

421 Khan News says U.S. strike imminent.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 04:59 PM (P9gC0)

422 I simply cannot believe the hysteria I am reading elsewhere from people I sort of "know" on the Internet. They have fallen for the MSM propaganda and X propaganda hook, line/lies, and sinker!

Yeah there are some really dim people out screaming and ripping their hair out WW3!!!!! REGIME CHANGE!1!1!!!! BOOTS ON THE GROUND!!!1!!

Dudes, you look ridiculous. Relax. We are not going to war with Iran. We are not sending troops to Iran. We are not going to conquer it and try to apply a new government. NOT EVERYTHING IS GWOT for crying out loud.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:00 PM (e7kz6)

423 Chewbacca would stomp Worf.

Posted by: Trek Nerd at June 17, 2025 05:00 PM (fV+MH)

424 417 We don't usually let car nerds in here.
Posted by: Trek Nerd at June 17, 2025 04:58 PM (fV+MH)

Step aside.

Posted by: Double U Double U Two History Buffs at June 17, 2025 05:00 PM (y/iut)

425 Israel already 90% of what needed to be done, decapitard the leadership, destroyed their air Defenses, have full control of air , and destroyed much of nukkekar supply chain. So waht are we gonna do? Drop a big bomb on someplace?

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 05:01 PM (nQcpu)

426 367 358 > Posted by: Spock at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (Dv3i1)

You're dead.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 04:47 PM (lIio7)

A few times by my count.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

You have failed to consider alternate timelines. The odds of me being dead in all of them are 1.759743 billion to 1.

Posted by: Spock at June 17, 2025 05:01 PM (Dv3i1)

427 Hitler was actually just looking for the first opportunity to declare war on us for our aid to the Brits and the Soviets. Although Pearl Harbor didn't obligate him to do so, it gave him the opportunity, so he took it.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 05:01 PM (77rzZ)

428 one of Hitler's biggest mistakes was declaring war on the US after Pearl Harbor.

Yeah that was suicidal. And unnecessary. He made a couple of really boneheaded mistakes. There was no need to invade Russia, or make war with the USA. More money and effort in propaganda in the USA to keep it out of the war and a peace deal once they got France settled, regain power, build up supplies, and then push on to the east.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:01 PM (e7kz6)

429 was two guys insisting that the cops were right and the accused should be guilty. Quote from one: "If the police charged them then they must be guilty"
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 04:59 PM (ctrM5)

Also that statement might get you out of jury duty, maybe.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 05:01 PM (v2VfP)

430 > Crossing streams, but seeing Chewbacca and Worf playing chess on the Millennium Falcon would be hilarious. Once the chess match is over, which one wins the real match?

Chewbacca would win. Worf constantly gets his butt kicked on TNG. At least two Borg toss him. He gets tossed by some young Klingon in the Romulan prison camp. Even his time travelling son throws Worf to the ground. Worf also gets thrown to the ground many times by phaser fire.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 05:02 PM (lIio7)

431 Khan News says U.S. strike imminent.

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On what???

Posted by: runner at June 17, 2025 05:02 PM (nQcpu)

432 Sink the Bismark was the battle cry
that shook the Seven Seas.
Posted by: Johnny Horton
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In 1814 we took a little trip...

Posted by: Johnny H. at June 17, 2025 05:02 PM (TN0g+)

433 BREAKING: ICE just conducted a massive raid in Blount County, Alabama. 55 illegals were arrested for illegal cockfighting and gambling.

Turns out the Dems thought "cockfighting" just meant they were being gay, and that's the whole reason they opened the border. Easy mistake to make.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 17, 2025 05:02 PM (2ocoG)

434 That was one of those WTF moments Adolf was prone to.

Tripartite Pact did not require him to declare war against the US since Japan attacked. But there he went going full LeRoy Jenkins.

But at the same time there was some truth for his reasons to declare war. The short of war Neutrality Patrols was one. Another was the US Navy assisting Royal Navy and Dutch warships in the sinking of a German-American liner that broke out of Tampico.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:03 PM (BNLtx)

435 I'm thinking Israel may not need our "help". Just the threat of it...
Posted by: It's me donna
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That is my take subject to revision. Israel is now reaching the eastern borders of Iran with Afghanistan with its air strikes. That means refueling over Iran.

Total air supremacy means the Israelis have the leisure to pick and choose targets of opportunity when the Iranians try to move missile launchers.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 05:03 PM (ctrM5)

436 one of Hitler's biggest mistakes was declaring war on the US after Pearl Harbor.

I have wondered if he thought that would move the Japanese to restart their war in the East against the Russians.

Luckily, the Russians had already kicked their asses so badly that the Japanese were happy to stay defensive.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:03 PM (jc0TO)

437 Chewbacca VS Worf ? This thread is officially dead

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 05:03 PM (VE6XX)

438 Uber über alles

Posted by: Dara Khosrowshahi at June 17, 2025 05:03 PM (0sNs1)

439 IIRC An American sold his tank suspension and slanted armor patents to Russia after the US military procurement guy rejected it because of personal animosity from what I read.

Am I misremembering?

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (VofaG)

440 One thing I really hope that Trump's team is working on hard right now is deregulation and reducing CAFE standards for auto companies. Now, Elon being an EV global warming dork probably hates that idea, but it would do wonders for the US auto industry... if they are smart enough to take advantage.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (e7kz6)

441 Khan News is like PBS for Israel. Iran. They weren't specific.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (P9gC0)

442 Cockfighting?

https://youtu.be/mX8a4tKtv68

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (y/iut)

443 American battleships sortieing for Bismarck? Can you provide proof because having read a lot of the Battle of the Atlantic books I have never run across such a reference.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM (BNLtx)

The Brits don't give us credit for taking over a third of the Front in France in WWI. They aint gonna mention us getting involved in their ship action.

They don't mention the Channel Dash a lot either.

I've been reading a lot of the US official histories made up after the war. It might have been in one of those. There was one about the defense of Canada, which we also took up before a declaration of war.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (8avO+)

444 Polynike

You are talking of the Christie suspension for tanks. Not sure of the rest.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:05 PM (BNLtx)

445
Wait. WTF?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 04:52 PM (UGyV5)

It is true. Just put in his last name and trans and reddit has a copy today from his writing 07/20/2012. I know it is reddit and they are whining about it for a different reason than my total and complete revulsion. I will not repeat nor post what the guy wrote, but he lost me that day forever. I don't care what he says or does.

He blamed drugs and booze. While I had a great time in college, there is no way I would be this grossly unhinged and hideous. I would get the "spins" at keggers and stop drinking. I was crazy but not hideous or whorish.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 05:05 PM (6PCLE)

446 Yeah that was suicidal. And unnecessary. He made a couple of really boneheaded mistakes. There was no need to invade Russia, or make war with the USA. More money and effort in propaganda in the USA to keep it out of the war and a peace deal once they got France settled, regain power, build up supplies, and then push on to the east.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:01 PM (e7kz6)
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Maybe. I am not at all convinced that his declaration of war actually mattered. FDR and the US government were hot to join the war in Europe and even absent the German declaration of war, there is no way we weren't going to join the war in Europe after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Hitler made it an easier sell to the American people by declaring war, but I doubt he changed the outcome by doing so. We still would have declared war on the Axis powers as a group and very likely still would have pursued the "Europe First" strategy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:05 PM (6bTRc)

447 Even his time travelling son throws Worf to the ground. Worf also gets thrown to the ground many times by phaser fire.

I think Worf's entire existence on the show was to mock jocks and big tough guys and show them always wrong and stupid and weak.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:06 PM (e7kz6)

448 Germany fighting on only one front except for Britain in North Africa would have kicked Russia's ass imo and would have had twice the armament and man power. They would have also likely made the jet sooner.

one of Hitler's biggest mistakes was declaring war on the US after Pearl Harbor.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:59 PM (VofaG

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Germany deperately wanted USSR out of the war before US entered. The eastward blitz was a .manifestation of that aim. Had the US not entered, the impasse on the Eastern front would have led to a partition granting the Nazis control of everything west of the USSR, and ultimately the conquest of all of western Europe, inclding Uk.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 05:06 PM (wzAuc)

449 IIRC An American sold his tank suspension and slanted armor patents to Russia after the US military procurement guy rejected it because of personal animosity from what I read.

Am I misremembering?
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 05:04 PM (VofaG)

Think he went there in the 30s to design the T34 and other tanks and teach them US mass production techniques when he could not get a job in the US.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:06 PM (8avO+)

450 "One thing I really hope that Trump's team is working on hard right now is deregulation and reducing CAFE standards for auto companies."

Bring back small pickup trucks!

Posted by: Guys everywhere at June 17, 2025 05:06 PM (y/iut)

451 Bring back small pickup trucks!

And station wagons!
--dads everywhere

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:07 PM (e7kz6)

452 Dec 8 the US declares war on only Japan.

Germany and Italy declare war on the US.

Dec 10, the US declares war on Germany and Italy.

It was an own goal that could have been postponed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:08 PM (BNLtx)

453 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 05:08 PM (77rzZ)

454 I have wondered if he thought that would move the Japanese to restart their war in the East against the Russians.

Luckily, the Russians had already kicked their asses so badly that the Japanese were happy to stay defensive.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:03 PM (jc0TO)
++++
The Japanese were far too busy in China to open a front against the Russians. If they had marched from east, taken Vladivostok from their bases in Korea and pushed in from Manchuria, the USSR probably *would* have fallen - but Japan would have a massive flank exposed to extremely angry and bloodthirsty Chinese peasants. In the North, those were Mao's people and it's entirely possible he would have suspended his vendetta against Chiang to go after Japanese positions and loot. I sort of doubt it, but the possibility is there and despite the poor performance of Chinese soldiers during the Occupation, striking weakened targets of opportunity on the periphery is a different game from fighting back an invasion. There was no way the Japanese would risk it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:09 PM (6bTRc)

455 I think Worf's entire existence on the show was to mock jocks and big tough guys and show them always wrong and stupid and weak.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:06 PM (e7kz6)

There were other reasons.

Posted by: Big Prune Juice at June 17, 2025 05:09 PM (PiwSw)

456 Germany deperately wanted USSR out of the war before US entered. The eastward blitz was a .manifestation of that aim. Had the US not entered, the impasse on the Eastern front would have led to a partition granting the Nazis control of everything west of the USSR, and ultimately the conquest of all of western Europe, inclding Uk.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 05:06 PM (wzAuc)
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Might have worked, too, if Hitler didn't have to delay his offensive to go bail out Mussolini in the Balkans to secure oil supplies. Vital weeks of prime invasion season were wasted on that side show.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:10 PM (6bTRc)

457 Germany deperately wanted USSR out of the war before US entered. The eastward blitz was a .manifestation of that aim. Had the US not entered, the impasse on the Eastern front would have led to a partition granting the Nazis control of everything west of the USSR, and ultimately the conquest of all of western Europe, inclding Uk.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 05:06 PM (wzAuc)

Pretty dumb then to declare war on the US on Dec 8 41 then. With that aside there might have been sentiment to kick Japan's ass first rather than the Europe First strategy. In fact there was the idea that being fully at war would let them win the battle of the Atlantic, which was stupid on their own.

As it turned out we could build ships faster than they could sink them once the Liberty Ship program got going.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:10 PM (8avO+)

458 434 That was one of those WTF moments Adolf was prone to.

Tripartite Pact did not require him to declare war against the US since Japan attacked. But there he went going full LeRoy Jenkins.

But at the same time there was some truth for his reasons to declare war. The short of war Neutrality Patrols was one. Another was the US Navy assisting Royal Navy and Dutch warships in the sinking of a German-American liner that broke out of Tampico.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Rainbow Five warplan was leaked shortly before Pearl Harbor. Contained the Germany first order of business as decided in the Atlantic Charter.
American Heritage had a story about it https://www.americanheritage.com/big-leak

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 05:10 PM (ctrM5)

459 Oldcat

What histories? Names please?

Because I do not recall such in books like Battleship at War or in Theodore Roscoe's US Navy Destroyer Operations in World War II

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:10 PM (BNLtx)

460 And station wagons!
--dads everywhere
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I think they're called SUVs now.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2025 05:10 PM (mlg/3)

461 I love these WWII threads. Better than the Civil War threads, because there's less bickering about who the good and bad guys were.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM (77rzZ)

462 Wanta a good laugh?. Go read what the regime in Iran is telling their people. eldersofziyon. Blog

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 05:11 PM (DLqye)

463 I think they're called SUVs now.

But they are gutless and tall station wagons.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2025 05:12 PM (e7kz6)

464 Cock fighting? Why wasn't I invited? - Pete Buttigieg

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 05:12 PM (akw+7)

465 That was one of those WTF moments Adolf was prone to.

Tripartite Pact did not require him to declare war against the US since Japan attacked. But there he went going full LeRoy Jenkins.

But he was pissed at us for our aid to the UK and USSR, as I mentioned above. So, to him it made sense, since we were already involved.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 05:12 PM (77rzZ)

466 Ah yes, The Chicago Tribune that vehemently hated FDR.

Their own Stanely Johnson almost scuttled the US victory at Midway when the paper published how the US Navy had cracked the Japanese codes before the battle.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:13 PM (BNLtx)

467 461 I love these WWII threads. Better than the Civil War threads, because there's less bickering about who the good and bad guys were.
Posted by: Bulg
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Seem to remember a healthy discussion of Churchill--Villain or Hero?

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (ctrM5)

468 Adolf must have had total contempt for the US for some inexplicable reason. Because he'd written that he would never declare war on anyone in advance, just attack. That uncharacteristic declaration of war is right up there with allowing the evacuation of Dunkirk and not retreating from Stalingrad. Total folly that don't have logical explanations.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (UGyV5)

469 Noodage

Posted by: Nood person at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (y/iut)

470 KAN11. I can't read the language.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (P9gC0)

471 The Japanese were far too busy in China to open a front against the Russians.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 17, 2025 05:09 PM (6bTRc)

In 1939 the Japanese and Russians had a border incident at Nomonhan (Khalkin Gohl). The Japanese pushed aside the Mongolian defenders and occupied it. Shortly thereafter Zhukov organized a counterattack force over miles of roadless ground and crushed the Japanese with tanks, artillery, air and men. Since the Japanese didn't retreat, losses were horrific.

After that the energy for adventures toward the USSR was 'moderated'

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:15 PM (8avO+)

472 That uncharacteristic declaration of war is right up there with allowing the evacuation of Dunkirk and not retreating from Stalingrad. Total folly that don't have logical explanations.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 05:14 PM (UGyV5)

you can't retreat from Stalingrad when your military transport horses were dispatched west for forage and rest. That one at least was not folly. Once you get surrounded and the only shelter is in Stalingrad city your options are out.

The folly was going there in the first place.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM (8avO+)

473 Oldcat

What histories? Names please?

Because I do not recall such in books like Battleship at War or in Theodore Roscoe's US Navy Destroyer Operations in World War II
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 05:10 PM (BNLtx)

I do not have the name to hand at the moment. If I find it I will tell you. Simply though US/UK cooperation was far more direct and complete before the war than most histories stress.

Since the Bizzy was damaged and turned away from US waters made the operation moot.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:22 PM (8avO+)

474 Sparks and the Menards did not get along, but as detailed in a court hearing Monday, the final straw was a hot dog, the Press-Enterprise reports.
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:29 PM (RHGPo)

They probably put ketchup on the damn hotdog and that pissed him off!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 17, 2025 05:39 PM (5xuJ/)

475 The folly was going there in the first place.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 05:18 PM

Probably so. TIKhistory has a good video about Hitler not wanting to retreat from Stalingrad. Hitler's argument was that if they retreated, they would never have the material to go there again and the Germans would not be able to secure their holdings in the Caucasus so it was now or never.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 05:43 PM (jc0TO)

476 ICE Barbie Kristi Noem rushed to the hospital - allergy

https://mol.im/a/14822443

Posted by: Ciampino - fryingpan into fire at June 17, 2025 05:56 PM (sPQoU)

477 In a shocking twist, the Penguin has surged in the polls to be the new mayor of Gotham...Er...New York City.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 06:13 PM (gDhA9)

478 125
My problem with non-count team names in general is how you refer to an individual member of the team. One member of the Vikings is a Viking. One member of the Wolverines is a Wolverine. A Yankee, a Spartan, a Cowboy, etc.

What is one member of the Liberty, or the Jazz, or the Crimson Tide?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 04:05 PM (77rzZ)
----
Lib
Hand
(Tide) Pod

Posted by: Ciampino - the jokes write themselves at June 17, 2025 06:16 PM (sPQoU)

479 We see the real #1 Enemy of America the UN and the DNC

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 17, 2025 06:33 PM (wGqjj)

480 Why do all the weirdos run for office in Blue cities and states? Is that a requirement or just a feature? BTW, after Mayor Karen Bass burnt down Pacific Palisades, and then mandated rioting and looting of downtown, nobody is calling for her recall.

Posted by: wferrin at June 17, 2025 06:48 PM (EMVsh)

Trump to Hyper-Isolationists: I Never Promised You a Rose Garden

Trump's rapid-response account is now posting Trump's many, many, many previous statements declaring that Iran must never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, ever, full stop no caveats.

But apparently when Trump said this over and over and over again, the hyper-isolationists all heard him saying, "I promise I will pursue Barack Obama's Iran policy and help Iran get a nuclear bomb. And also, again like Barack Obama, when Iran's regime is fatally threatened, I will step in to save it."

He ever said these things. You made them up. You wanted him to say them, but he never, ever did.

He said the opposite.

“You cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. You cannot let it happen because bad things will happen if that happens.” (6/24/23) pic.twitter.com/BFVxfxBWQh
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) June 17, 2025

“Don’t let Iran have nuclear weapons. That’s my only thing I have to tell you today. Don’t let them have it.” (10/16/23) pic.twitter.com/0vvA6gKkAE
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) June 17, 2025

“No nuclear weapons. You can’t have nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are the single greatest threat to this world.” (11/9/23) pic.twitter.com/sZq7Ql04jT
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) June 17, 2025

And more at the link.

The hyper-isolationists are threatening that Trump doing the things Trump has repeatedly promised to do would "fracture the base." This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.

Yet they don't consider that Trump doing what they demand and using our military and economic power to harm Israel to aid Iran would also fracture the base.

I didn't vote for your fucking queerbait RoN pAuL!!!-cum-Medea-Benjamin gaywad peacenik foreign policy. Trump, as I already wrote, has always said that he thinks the Deep State's ambition to be at war at all times in all countries is insane and that he would stop that, and that he wants to be known for ending wars rather than starting them.

But he's also made it clear, as he did when he used missile attacks to all but wipe out ISIS and also assassinate Iran's top terror commander, that enemy countries which do not accept his open hand will feel his closed fist.

He also has repeatedly stated that he completely supports Israel. I know the Tucker Carlson circle thinks that Israel is The Real Terrorist Enemy and now is literally calling for the US to attack Tel Aviv -- Darryl Cooper, the man Tucker Carlson praised and glazed as "the most important popular historian [i.e., 'Twitter crank'] writing today" expressly called for the US Air Force to bomb Tel Aviv.*

That's not Trump's policy. He promised to support Israel, and to stop Iran from getting the bomb.

That is what he said, that is what he promised, and that is what we voted for.

It's also what the hyper-isolationists voted for -- because this was always Trump's position. Trump is not Tucker Carlson or Steve Bannon. If you want their noxious leadership, then encourage them to run and vote for them.

But this is what was promised, and this is what you voted for.

* Whoops, I typoed here, saying Cooper called for the Air Force to bomb "Teheran."

I meant he called for the USAF to bomb Tel Aviv.

Sorry, big mistake. Obviously the exact opposite of what I intended to say.

They both start with T. Close enough!

Posted by: Ace at 02:48 PM

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1 uh oh

Posted by: brak at June 17, 2025 02:49 PM (jGJov)

2 He's always said no nukes.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:49 PM (ExV1e)

3 First!

Posted by: blackstone at June 17, 2025 02:50 PM (9byfS)

4 I don't want boots on the ground in Iran.

Anything short of that? Go right ahead those f*ckers deserve everything we can help Israel throw at them

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:50 PM (t0Rmr)

5 But apparently when Trump said this over and over and over again, the hyper-isolationists all heard him saying, "I promise I will pursue Barack Obama's Iran policy and help Iran get a nuclear bomb. And also, again like Barack Obama, when Iran's regime is fatally threatened, I will step in to save it."

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"I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

6 I wonder what color the sky is in their world.

Posted by: Stateless.. 30% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (jvJvP)

7 i have decided to try watery shit for a change
it's like heaven

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (BvMja)

8 Winning solves a multitude of problems.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (jc0TO)

9 Ace, awesome post. I'm with you 100%!

Posted by: jb at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (0sIOj)

10 But he's also made it clear, as he did when he used missile attacks to all but wipe out ISIS and also assassinate Iran's top terror commander, that enemy countries which do not accept his open hand will feel his closed fist.

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I remember this stuff.

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who remembers this stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (GBKbO)

11 But couldn't Iran just have a small, limited nuclear weapon?

Posted by: Joe Biden's speechwriter at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (Dnobf)

12
Jeez, Ace, tell us how you really feel.

Content like this makes me vote to spend time at AOS whenever I can.

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (j4U/Z)

13 Tucker is convinced that he called off an attack on Iran during the first Trump term. Maybe he did. But since then he’s been under the mistaken notion that he calls Trump’s foreign policy. Which, thankfully, he doesn’t.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (f7GkW)

14 The hyper-isolationists are threatening that Trump doing the things Trump has repeatedly promised to do would "fracture the base."

Things that would fracture the base:

A draft
An American invasion
American Peacekeepers

Things that would not fracture the base:
Bombing Iran
Giving equipment to Israel to bomb Iran

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (t0Rmr)

15 Trump basically blew Tulsi off in one sentence.
"I don't care what she said."

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (/U5Yz)

16 13 Tucker is convinced that he called off an attack on Iran during the first Trump term. Maybe he did. But since then he’s been under the mistaken notion that he calls Trump’s foreign policy. Which, thankfully, he doesn’t.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (f7GkW)

======

Remember when it was rumored that Trump got "serious" about covid after a late night visit from a panicky Tucker?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (GBKbO)

17 So, what Trump is saying is he's not stupid and the absolute isolationists are really angry about it.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (N1DT3)

18 I don't get the bitching. We are in the best of scenarios where someone else is doing our dirty work.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (jc0TO)

19 But couldn't Iran just have a small, limited nuclear weapon?
Posted by: Joe Biden's speechwriter at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM

Like a minor incursion? No, not that type Joe.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (ewjUl)

20 I mean, there's a difference between full stop isolationism and just plain not intervening in any patch of dirt where some nomenklatura has an interest to fiddle with. Just because you don't want to be sending troops around willy-nilly doesn't mean you don't acknowledge a case where it's called for, within limits.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (OUMaO)

21 Ace I think you meant Cooper called on the US to bomb Tel Aviv

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (akw+7)

22 and also assassinate Iran's top terror commander
=
That's an act of war by the way.

FYI, for people who are sperging out about bombing Iran being a "new" war.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (Dnobf)

23 18 I don't get the bitching. We are in the best of scenarios where someone else is doing our dirty work.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (jc0TO)

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Let's be honest: If there's a primary antagonist to Iran it's Israel, not us.

Israel gets the most impact from Iran's funding of terror, including Hezbollah and Hamas.

This isn't our dirty work. We have grievances, legit grievances, against Iran, but Israel has a lot more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (GBKbO)

24 I voted for this. I'd love to see a defeated, forever defanged Iran and hopefully an overthrown by Iranians of their own murderous government. That would help stabilize the middle east by cutting off (or at least reducing) funds for Hamass and Hezzbozack. We would all be safer as a result.

No, I don't want American boots on the ground. I'd prefer if we take no direct action in the war at all. But if Israel needs help with some very special deep penetrating, then so be it. I'd also offer my special penetration services to those hot IDF babes.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (iFTx/)

25
I don't want boots on the ground in Iran.

Anything short of that? Go right ahead those f*ckers deserve everything we can help Israel throw at them
Posted by: 18-1

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That's where I am. What did we develop a Massive Ordnance Penetrator for? Just drop it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (wbZPZ)

26 25 That's where I am. What did we develop a Massive Ordnance Penetrator for? Just drop it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (wbZPZ)

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Sell it to Israel and lend them the plane.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (GBKbO)

27 That's not Trump's policy. He promised to support Israel, and to stop Iran from getting the bomb.

That is what he said, that is what he promised, and that is what we voted for.

^^^^^^^^^
I voted for that.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (PfGa7)

28 Giving equipment to Israel to bomb Iran

I don't even believe that give them equipment. We guarantee loans so that they get more favorable rates but, as I understand it, they've paid them all off.

Maybe we help out with some minor gigantic bombings cuz they don't have those bombs - or the planes to deliver them - but I'm cool with that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (ExV1e)

29 It won't work.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (P9gC0)

30 Got nothing to do with us but by all means let’s get into another endless war that only benefits our “greatest” ally who has sold American secrets to our enemies, havnt provided ANY actionable intell of consequence, they’ve killed Americans in an attempt to drag us into their wars previously. They ran and are obviously still running a black male ring targeting and capturing American politicians. I’m done with this bullshit.

Posted by: Goucho at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (vFpe0)

31 Imagine if Carter has supported the Shah instead of the Mullahs.

Probably no Iran-Iraq war (because Saddam knows the Shah can smack him around)
No Gulf War
No WoT

and on and on...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (t0Rmr)

32 Darryl Cooper, the man Tucker Carlson praised and glazed as "the most important popular historian [i.e., 'Twitter crank'] writing today" expressly called for the US Air Force to bomb Tehran.

That's not Trump's policy. He promised to support Israel, and to stop Iran from getting the bomb.
=
That's Samantha Power's policy.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (Dnobf)

33 >>21 Ace I think you meant Cooper called on the US to bomb Tel Aviv

whoops! thank you.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (KRtlO)

34 These are the libertarian leaning supporters of Trump.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (VofaG)

35 This isn't our dirty work. We have grievances, legit grievances, against Iran, but Israel has a lot more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu

It's also in a much better position to do it, between intel, preparations, and a much more favorable logistics.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (OUMaO)

36 28 Giving equipment to Israel to bomb Iran

I don't even believe that give them equipment. We guarantee loans so that they get more favorable rates but, as I understand it, they've paid them all off.

Maybe we help out with some minor gigantic bombings cuz they don't have those bombs - or the planes to deliver them - but I'm cool with that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (ExV1e)

======

I looked at this very briefly a few days ago, and yes, that seems to be the vast majority of "aid" to Israel.

Favorable loans to purchase our weapons.

I mean, it's circular and we probably lose money on it, but that seems to be it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (GBKbO)

37 13 Tucker is convinced that he called off an attack on Iran during the first Trump term. Maybe he did. But since then he’s been under the mistaken notion that he calls Trump’s foreign policy. Which, thankfully, he doesn’t.

Tuck had way way WAY too much pull with PDJT in the first term

now things are different

thank God!!!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (Pv3Rg)

38 That's not Trump's policy. He promised to support Israel, and to stop Iran from getting the bomb.

--

You're not wrong.

In fact, Trump's been saying exactly that since 2016.
He also showed he meant it throughout his first term.

It shouldn't be surprising to anybody, because Trump has never wavered on these positions.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (6ydKt)

39 No boots on the ground.

Bombs on the planes, sure.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (W2Pud)

40 I mean, it's circular and we probably lose money on it, but that seems to be it.

yep they buy the weaponry and material from us

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (Pv3Rg)

41 Trump basically blew Tulsi off in one sentence.
"I don't care what she said."

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (/U5Yz)

Do you just come here to post inflammatory shit? Tulsi has already said that there is no distance between her position regarding Iranian weapons and Trumps.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (ExV1e)

42 Posted by: Goucho at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (vFpe0)

Welcome new poster

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (ICe/k)

43 Iran has been at war with the U.S. since Jimmy Carter.

If not now, when?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (ZmEVT)

44 Fucker Carlson, amirite?

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (fV+MH)

45 With that kind of admission of error, maybe the post's author should change to Lamont.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (GBKbO)

46 Bing Iran Pre-1979

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (PfGa7)

47 -Lot's of military air activity today in western WA.
-Constant jamming of the The High Frequency Global
Communications System (HFGCS)
-USS Nimitz on the way to the Middle East.

-Refueling tankers airborne heading east

It all ads up to ____!

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (/U5Yz)

48 >>>Imagine if Carter has supported the Shah instead of the Mullahs.

He did, didn't he? I thought he did but I don't really know.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (KRtlO)

49 Whiney Carlson.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (P9gC0)

50 The US is an aggrieved party, and aggrieved by Iran.
Going back to the hostage deal. Marine barracks, and then all the proxy shit they've pulled.
I've been arguing for, at the very least, the USAF to take a hand.
Israel doesn't have the lift capacity to drop those GPU whatevers...
Take the entire nuke sites down, then make the rubble bounce while it glows in the dark.

Posted by: MkY at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (+Pp+Q)

51 Remember when it was rumored that Trump got "serious" about covid after a late night visit from a panicky Tucker?

dude it wasn't a RUMOR

tucker crowed about it ON HIS SHOW!

I almost fell off the treadmill!

little dweeby weasel

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Pv3Rg)

52 39 No boots on the ground.
Bombs on the planes, sure.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (W2Pud)

I propose a compromise. Bombs on the ground where the mullahs live.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (gKWVE)

53 FYI, for people who are sperging out about bombing Iran being a "new" war.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (Dnobf)

Did the war that the Iranians started in 1979 ever end?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (ExV1e)

54 Some time ago MSM barbed Trump for burning on a subordinate with the harsh words, 'you've got to listen', they should have paid attention to the president.

Ill informed media creates an ill informed public. But of course
that's what the communists want.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Ffc+8)

55 And also, again like Barack Obama, when Iran's regime is fatally threatened, I will step in to save it."

=====

"I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

Not hegemon, just a "balance" for Israel.

I guess that didn't work out.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Dnobf)

56 He did, didn't he? I thought he did but I don't really know.

nope

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Pv3Rg)

57 shoot!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Pv3Rg)

58 There is not going to be boots on the ground in Iran. If the US is putting troops on the ground anywhere we are already in WW fucking 111

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (DLqye)

59 8 I don't get the bitching. We are in the best of scenarios where someone else is doing our dirty work.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM

This! If there's no boots on the ground and you can eliminate a nuclear Iran and the funding of terrorists that has killed and injured thousands of Americans. I'm for it. If it means borrowing a few GBU's or aircraft or even piloting them, it's time. Iran's been fucking with everyone for close to 50 years. They funded and ran the insurgency that killed our troops. They cannot have a nuke. If the people of Iran also want to also overthrow the mullah's go for it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (ewjUl)

60 wow

ok off I go

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (Pv3Rg)

61 The hyper-isolationists are threatening that Trump doing the things Trump has repeatedly promised to do would "fracture the base." This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.

I'm a neo-isolationist. I'm fine with the Iran thing, whatever it is and however it ends.

I suspect the part of the base that isn't is very small.

And, like a lot of political disputes, disgruntled parts of the base really have nowhere else to go anyway.

I think the discontent here will be short-lived, unless Iran foments chaos for years to come.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (UGyV5)

62 55 "I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

Not hegemon, just a "balance" for Israel.

I guess that didn't work out.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Dnobf)

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Oh, I believe the stated goal was hegemon. It's what the WEF said they wanted.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (GBKbO)

63 No one who voted for Trump will turn their back to him for "allowing" Israel to annihilate Iran.

Most of us have been waiting 45 years for this.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (wBaIH)

64 Israel is in the 6th or 7th year of the ten year 30 billion dollar total; aid legislation that passed.

We've given Ukraine 70 billion dollars since February 2022.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (VofaG)

65 "Hyper-Isolationists"

I don't think such a thing really exists except as another way to try to embarrass Republicans and drive wedges into their political coalitions. I'll bet any amount of money that every one of these "hyper-isolationists" now screeching at Trump were in orgasmic favor of a whole bunch of military operations during Obama's reign of error.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:01 PM (iFTx/)

66 >>>51 Remember when it was rumored that Trump got "serious" about covid after a late night visit from a panicky Tucker?

dude it wasn't a RUMOR

tucker crowed about it ON HIS SHOW!

...

oh dang I always forget that!

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:01 PM (KRtlO)

67 Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Pv3Rg)

Technical save.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 03:01 PM (ExV1e)

68 Wait...

Special penetration?

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (fV+MH)

69 Iranian nukes = Iraqi weapons of mass destruction

I don't give a shit about Iran. So let's be honest, Iran has been "weeks away" from nukes since the early 1990's.

Bomb them, who gives a shit. But propaganda is propaganda.

Posted by: My Sweet Lord at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (zVDqY)

70 66 >>>51 Remember when it was rumored that Trump got "serious" about covid after a late night visit from a panicky Tucker?

dude it wasn't a RUMOR

tucker crowed about it ON HIS SHOW!

...

oh dang I always forget that!
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:01 PM (KRtlO)

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That's not something to forget when you've decided that Tucker sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (GBKbO)

71 Trump is returning foreign policy to pre-Wilson, when it was based on national interests rather than ideology.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (ITkJX)

72 >>>I think the discontent here will be short-lived, unless Iran foments chaos for years to come.

I mean, seriously dude, they've fomented chaos and funded terrorists and have murdered Americans for 66 straight years.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (KRtlO)

73 This is not fracturing Trump's base. That is another fantasy.

Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (YwEeS)

74 That's not something to forget when you've decided that Tucker sucks.

at that time I still found him amusing, like he had been with that other guy whatever

I mean I was watching his show

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (Pv3Rg)

75 The morons at this smart military blog are missing one YUGE problem with all of this. Somewhere in Albuquerque. There's a district judge that will say, nu uh bro! Trump can't do that! Denied!

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (ewjUl)

76 71 Trump is returning foreign policy to pre-Wilson, when it was based on national interests rather than ideology.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (ITkJX)

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One would call it Jacksonian.

Willing to march into Spanish-owned Florida to track down some murderers and hang them, no matter borders.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

77 Is it too early to note that the Bush family is a festering chancre on our nation?

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (jc0TO)

78 I'm glad to boot a lot of those assholes (Especially Tucker and Dave Smith and Candace Owens) out of Trump's coalition for good. They have insignificant public support, and they can all go piss up a rope.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (uWKK8)

79 MAJOR BREAKING - SOMETHING VERY VERY BAD IS HAPPENING Bad developments re Israel Iran. (Link to Kyle Kulinski YouTube video on Iran situation)

This guy referenced the AUMF, but I believe it was repealed. Though Trump doesn't need the AUMF to take this action based on recent history. Also, this guy's barber should be replaced.

"Also, this guy's barber should be replaced." He looks like Wil Wheaton costumed to play a Miami coke dealer.

Nothing but speculation. I hate YouTube and the culture of condensing a paragraph worth of info into 14 minutes of clicks for dicks.

Between Netanyahu telling Iran the "time is here", and Trump leaving G7, other indicators that US may become directly involved, that is, Trump starting war with no congressional approval whatsoever

Trump risks WW3 to stay out of jail. The American people finally are starting to notice the treason. I think he's 100% serious and going to call in airstrikes on Iran

What's in it for him (Trump)? Everything is transactional for him. If he doesn't benefit in some way, he's not interested. He'd rather be out playing golf.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JCZqz)

80 I don't get the hyperventilating on the part of those who feel Trump isn't doing Trump. He is. Ace is correct.
I don't want to Bomb Iran or invade it. But those aholes earned what they are getting from Israel. Our support of Israel in this instance is prudent and serves US. I get that it is expensive, and risks escalation. Things were not risk free before. It was already a massively f ked up sitch. You were not negotiating with reasonable or trustworthy people. They had no intentions of going peacefully into the night. Again, as an admirer of adml Josh Painter, I appreciate the risk. You have tried everything else for 40 years with nothing but failure to show for it.
Either do something, or do politics and failure for another 40 years or until it's too late.

Posted by: LOL at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JFNRR)

81 72 >>>I think the discontent here will be short-lived, unless Iran foments chaos for years to come.

I mean, seriously dude, they've fomented chaos and funded terrorists and have murdered Americans for 66 straight years.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (KRtlO)

I mean something more like regime collapse and instability (like Libya, like Iraq).

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (UGyV5)

82 We should have curb stomped the persians in '79

Posted by: Life of Wryly at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (ycs3a)

83 So Iran is using enrichment as a kind of blackmail over the middle east. It appears to finally be backfiring.

Posted by: Max Power at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (Hucnr)

84 79 Nothing but speculation. I hate YouTube and the culture of condensing a paragraph worth of info into 14 minutes of clicks for dicks.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JCZqz)

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I feel seen. By DU of all people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (GBKbO)

85 Israel will get by with a little help from its friend.
We're going to blow the lid off Fordow then
sit off the coast and chow down on roast while
assuring that there is no outside interference.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (Ffc+8)

86 The Rand Paul's are neither isolationist nor fiscal conservatives. They are useful idiots for our enemies and media whores from Nowhereville, trying to pretend they matter.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (wBaIH)

87 >>>They both start with T. Close enough!

Hey i just drop the bombs; I don't write the orders

Posted by: B-2 Pilot at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (jGJov)

88 wait, 46 years

I'm not keen on math

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)

89 No one who voted for Trump will turn their back to him for "allowing" Israel to annihilate Iran.

Most of us have been waiting 45 years for this.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (wBaIH)

Some ex MLB star just said he would.

Of course the MSM has that as a top story.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (VofaG)

90 I don't really remember pre-Revolutionary Iran but I was very close with my grandmother (and took care of her before her death) and she frequently traveled to Iran. she loved it there!

I have a bunch of things from there that she gave me, of course rugs but also jewelry and antiques

it just stuck with me. it was a lovely country. and just poof. back to the darkest of ages for all of you poor people.

thanks Jimmy you idiot. trusting the revolutionaries. of course you did.

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (Pv3Rg)

91 79 What's in it for him (Trump)? Everything is transactional for him. If he doesn't benefit in some way, he's not interested. He'd rather be out playing golf.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JCZqz)

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You know...they're kind of right.

Trump would much rather play golf.

But the uniparty of Bush/Clinton/Obama fucked up America enough that Trump felt like he was in a position to help make it right.

Maybe one day they'll figure out that the Bushes and Clintons are on the same team.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (GBKbO)

92 I promised 2 important things : 1) No nukes for Iran, and 2) No fat chicks.

Posted by: President Donald Trump at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (SgTMz)

93 "Also, this guy's barber should be replaced." He looks like Wil Wheaton costumed to play a Miami coke dealer.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JCZqz)
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Ok, that was a good one. I'll give them that. Sounds like something I would say. I have no idea who they're talking about, but whatevs.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (iFTx/)

94 We need to have the TSAR BOMBA follow a bunker buster down into that mountain.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (PfGa7)

95 One would call it Jacksonian.

Willing to march into Spanish-owned Florida to track down some murderers and hang them, no matter borders.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

And then he decided to just kick the Spanish out for good and keep the place, orders be damned. One of my favorite (but not talked about much) history stories

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (uWKK8)

96 88 wait, 46 years

I'm not keen on math
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)

Eh, we don't math here.
But I'm with you on this point. Iran has begged for this outcome for decades. Now it's getting it. Sad!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (UGyV5)

97 88 wait, 46 years

I'm not keen on math
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)

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It turned me into a newt!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (GBKbO)

98 Carter kinda did his dickless thing with the Shah where he was lambasting him over human rights in public while slowly pulling back aid to his government.

I don't know if Carter wanted the mullahs to take over but he certainly screwed things up enough where it ended up that way.

He did the same sort of thing that Obama did by ghosting Murbarak in Egypt during the Arab Spring and it almost ended with the same outcome if the Muslim Brotherhood there hadn't been kicked out of power by the army.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:06 PM (6ydKt)

99 77 Is it too early to note that the Bush family is a festering chancre on our nation?
Posted by: toby928

I will reach up from the depths of Hell and strangle the life out of you.

Posted by: Zombie Donny Rumsfeld at June 17, 2025 03:06 PM (/U5Yz)

100 95 One would call it Jacksonian.

Willing to march into Spanish-owned Florida to track down some murderers and hang them, no matter borders.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

And then he decided to just kick the Spanish out for good and keep the place, orders be damned. One of my favorite (but not talked about much) history stories
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (uWKK

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I think Jackson was legit insane and folded at a key moment in American history, but I can't hate him.

Still, he's no William Henry Harrison in terms of great presidents.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:06 PM (GBKbO)

101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?

Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Eg3nV)

102 -=--I mean something more like regime collapse and instability (like Libya, like Iraq).
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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It won't be that way. Large part of the population is civil, literate people. Just kill all the tyrants and let them put their country back together.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Ffc+8)

103 Oh, I believe the stated goal was hegemon. It's what the WEF said they wanted.
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Ah, I hadn't heard that. I think Obama's people talked about balance or counterweight to Israel.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Dnobf)

104 Yo Ragheads....

From Whitman AFB with Love..........

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OL5FIWha0A

Posted by: Gen. Ripper, Wing CC at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (aKoaI)

105 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM

In fairness, he said not to start any foreign wars.

He has inherited a half dozen.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (jc0TO)

106 103 Oh, I believe the stated goal was hegemon. It's what the WEF said they wanted.
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Ah, I hadn't heard that. I think Obama's people talked about balance or counterweight to Israel.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Dnobf)

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Joe Mannix knows more about it, but the goal was hegemons in different regions of the planet.

I'm sure Obama talked about balance, but Obama also said that you could keep your doctor if you liked your doctor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (GBKbO)

107 101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?

Posted by: Its not raining

I don't believe he's involved us in any.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (SgTMz)

108 I'm glad to boot a lot of those assholes (Especially Tucker and Dave Smith and Candace Owens) out of Trump's coalition for good. They have insignificant public support, and they can all go piss up a rope.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM

Don't know who Dave Smith is. But I wrote of Candy after Oct 7th. I left gateway Pundit today, there's some racist ass people and too many antisemites over there.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (ewjUl)

109 We need to have the TSAR BOMBA follow a bunker buster down into that mountain.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (PfGa7)
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"Huh?"

-- Ritchie Valens

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (iFTx/)

110 I don't know much Iranian history pre late 70s.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (P9gC0)

111 ." This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.

ummm…

Did they happen to notice that Trump won all the battleground states by peeling democrats and independents away from their usual habits. Trump has succeeded in erecting a Big Tent. This hasn’t been accomplished in 45 years.

What a bunch of crybabies. Yeah, oppose him, whatever.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (+0yeI)

112 Trump risks WW3 to stay out of jail.

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lol

You know who else risked a World War to stay out of jail?

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (Ir9vH)

113 I'm repeating this the last thread because the prevarication mademe roll my eyes:

OT - So the media just out and one lies but we knew that . My newsfeed just reports an article from the left wing, "New Republic" " Trump reams out Pete Hegseth for disastrous military parade" Really? What was disastrous about it? Some of the military wasn't marching in step?

Some posters on the last thread had some good responses. Perhaps we should make up stories about what Trump is reaming out Hegseth about now:

Trump teams out Hegseth for his having larger biceps than he does.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (rO61x)

114 I don't know much Iranian history pre late 70s.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM

We helped overthrow the commies when they got voted in there, which was the style at the time.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (jc0TO)

115 Tucker comes off like an annoying reformed smoker who constantly nags everyone of the evils of smoking.

He was all in on the war in Iraq and when it turned out bad he embraced isolationism. He absolutely refuses to believe Iran can be as bad as they obviously are because we all got lied to about the intel on Iraq.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (PQWix)

116 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM

In fairness, he said not to start any foreign wars.

He has inherited a half dozen.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (jc0TO)
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This. He's not starting any. Hopefully he can end a few. The only way to end a war is to win it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (iFTx/)

117 ======

I think Jackson was legit insane and folded at a key moment in American history, but I can't hate him.
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When did he fold?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (Ffc+8)

118 117 ======

I think Jackson was legit insane and folded at a key moment in American history, but I can't hate him.
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When did he fold?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (Ffc+

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The nullification crisis.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (GBKbO)

119 thanks Jimmy you idiot. trusting the revolutionaries. of course you did.
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (Pv3Rg)

Back then the reason Jimmy Carter gave for abandoning both The Shah in Iran and Somoza in Nicaragua in 1979 was their "human rights" abuses.

Hahahahaha...he was a funny guy! Human rights...hahaha!

Posted by: Tony Clifton at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (/xbAD)

120 Trump risks WW3 to stay out of jail.

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Didn't they say that in 2017 also?

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (VofaG)

121 "When Trump starts talking about your ratings, he's done with you."
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LMFAO ace

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:11 PM (E0p3T)

122 >>I don't know much Iranian history pre late 70s.

One of the first regime change missions the CIA pulled was in Iran in conjunction with British Intelligence. They've been best buddies ever since.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:11 PM (PQWix)

123 wait, 46 years

I'm not keen on math
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)

I'm sure you're aware of the rules regarding math on this blog.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (Dnobf)

124 Things that would not fracture the base:
Bombing Iran
Giving equipment to Israel to bomb Iran
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (t0Rmr)

Well it is and it will continue to no matter how much people dont want it to be so.

The gen Z and millennials supporting Trump did not do so over his position on corporate tax rates or whatever.

But I guess endless wars are more important to some than the domestic policy Trump was elected to institute.

Is this repairable? I guess it depends on what happens next. But knowing our deep state as well as we all do I am not optimistic that this peters out.

Wont that be fitting though? The maga movement dissolving over deep state foreign wars. This is short sighted and avoidable. But whatever. Politics is fake and gay anyways as we all know.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (zuAlv)

125 Quinnipiac has approval for demorats at around 26%.

I think Ross Perot had better numbers.

But this is the time the isolationists want to abandon Trump. Why not just tell the world how irrelevant you are, cut to the chase ya buncha losers.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (+0yeI)

126 >>This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.

Good thing Trump isn't running for Office.

He's already there.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (uZ2FS)

127 121 "When Trump starts talking about your ratings, he's done with you."
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LMFAO ace
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:11 PM (E0p3T)

“You shouldn’t even be on this stage”

- from the 2016 primaries

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (Mxf84)

128 Trump reams out Hegseth for having a "Deus Vult" tattoo because Trump never took Latin and doesn't know what it means.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (rO61x)

129 Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (/U5Yz)

Do you just come here to post inflammatory shit? Tulsi has already said that there is no distance between her position regarding Iranian weapons and Trumps.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (ExV1e)

I'm not entirely convinced that Healey and Paratestes are different people.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (lHAAk)

130 Obama's handlers's goal was wholesale destruction of the USA and the western world, and they almost got there.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:13 PM (E0p3T)

131 107 101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?

Yea, and Blo Jiden is Mr. Statesman with 40 years of DC Homo Experience and Grifting...

There will not be any US War because Trump will Vaporize the Ragheads in their Goat Pens Buffing Mr. Nanny via the Gluteus Maximus Entry ....

Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:13 PM (aKoaI)

132 We went easy on Iran after Reagan because we didn't want to push them into the Soviet orbit and grant them a warm water port.

That reason died with the USSR. That was the moment for payback.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:13 PM (jc0TO)

133 Iran and Iraq were both fairly advanced, westernized societies. And then the fundie Aloha Snackbar brigade took over, then, yea. Not so much.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:13 PM (ewjUl)

134 How does Tucker plan to end Trump's presidency I wonder.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:13 PM (E0p3T)

135 Perhaps we should make up stories about what Trump is reaming out Hegseth about now:
...
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Bringing their idiocy to light is the best antiseptic.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (Ffc+8)

136 126 >>This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.

Good thing Trump isn't running for Office.

He's already there.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (uZ2FS)

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Vance is going to be able to take on the popular stuff and distance himself from the unpopular stuff in 28. If the Trump administration is overall considered a success, the distancing will be easy enough.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (GBKbO)

137 They both start with T. Close enough!

Posted by: Ace
Just a couple of degrees off on the trajectory... no problem, correct it in flight!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (qDqg1)

138 >enemy countries which do not accept his open hand will feel his closed fist

Trump is doing what Ge. Mattis blustered:

"I came in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: if you fuck with me, I'll kill you all."

The problem with allowing Israel to eliminate the Iranian nuclear program is that they can't. The primary site of concern is under a mountain too deep for IAF ordnance to penetrate. The US has a bomb that can do the job, but Israel has no bombers with the range and payload capacity to deliver it. So the only way for Israel to wipe out the nuclear program is with US bombs delivered from US planes. That's just the reality of the situation.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (xBngO)

139 Now that the democrat party fully supports weed, the libertarian party has the same platform.

There was that one small difference, now there is not.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (17s+e)

140 I mean we went after Iraq really at the behest of Iran!

at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"

Iran/China was driving our policy even then.

or just idiocy

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)

141 So the only way for Israel to wipe out the nuclear program is with US bombs delivered from US planes. That's just the reality of the situation.
Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM

or the new Persian government dismantles the facilities.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (jc0TO)

142 osted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (zuAlv)

As I always thought you're nothing but a troll. Go back and be a cuck for all your liberal friends like you used to inexplicably brag about.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (VofaG)

143 Before Iran it was called the Persian Empire.....

Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (aKoaI)

144 122 >>I don't know much Iranian history pre late 70s.

One of the first regime change missions the CIA pulled was in Iran in conjunction with British Intelligence. They've been best buddies ever since.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:11 PM (PQWix)

Yep. We and the Brits have been fucking around with Iranian domestic affairs for almost 100 years now. It all goes back to the discovery of oil in Iran by the Brits.

The 1976 revolution was a direct response to us installing a deeply unpopular dictator (twice) after the Iranian people elected people who wanted to keep that oil money in Iran.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (zuAlv)

145 101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?

Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Eg3nV)

Trump's making the best of the hand he was dealt.

He hasn't started new wars.
He gave Iran 60 days to make a deal.

He's done a few weeks of strikes against the Houthis - who got what was coming to them.

We haven't done anything else that I can remember.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (6ydKt)

146 Ok, that was a good one. I'll give them that. Sounds like something I would say. I have no idea who they're talking about, but whatevs.
Posted by: Elric Blade

He's a Lefty YouTuber with a "show" called The Kyle Kulinski show on his channel Secular Talk. He's married to fellow Lefty media person Krystal Ball, who's older, and I think divorced her husband for Kyle?

https://tinyurl.com/3r5z7d9y

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (JCZqz)

147 I don't get the bitching. We are in the best of scenarios where someone else is doing our dirty work.

It's perfect, really, and we could get a Free Persia out of the deal. (as in freedom, not low-cost)

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (1XOgo)

148 134 How does Tucker plan to end Trump's presidency I wonder.

fortunately now he is term-limited which removes leverage from people like Tuck

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (Pv3Rg)

149 Jeez, a man who does what he says he is going to do.
Hard to understand.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (n4GiU)

150 ... but ... but ... they would be *mostly peaceful* nuclear weapons!

Posted by: The MSM at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (4RPgu)

151 I really don't get the anti-Israel stance a lot on the right seem to be taking. I don't believe it's all based in Jew hating, but that somehow it's Israel-the only country in the Middle East not run by an Islamic regime and the one currently kicking the hell out of the biggest threat by far in that region-that just loves to start wars. Which really ignores the constant threat that country has faced since day 1 of existing.

Do I completely trust the Israelis? No. Do I think they have a perfect track record of behavior? No, no one does. But do I see them as our only real ally there and do I admire the military operations they can pull off? Damn right i do.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (f70Xg)

152 Lame Duck.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (P9gC0)

153 Bath House Barry has been mighty quiet. Most likely changing the Middle East wing of His Big 'Ol Chicago Bath House into the Reach Around Room. If things work out right his legacy will be a full Jimmy for setting Iran on the path to nuking Israel. If Biden won a second term - I don't like thinking about the horrific consequences of that.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (m7pre)

154
I didn't vote for your fucking queerbait RoN pAuL!!!-cum-Medea-Benjamin gaywad peacenik foreign policy.

Angry Ewok is Best Ewok.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (y9nCu)

155 The elephant in the room is Tucker busted himself on opinions regarding Israel long ago.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (E0p3T)

156 I don't know much Iranian history pre late 70s.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (P9gC0)

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My limited knowledge is that it was quite Westernized and modernized -- (ironically) similar to Israel actually -- and what other Middle Eastern countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, et. al ) have been aspiring to now for decades.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (Ir9vH)

157 Wont that be fitting though? The maga movement dissolving over deep state foreign wars. This is short sighted and avoidable. But whatever. Politics is fake and gay anyways as we all know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (zuAlv)

The Deeps State's Presidents (Obama/Biden) actively supported Iran, so I don't know what you're talking about, and I'm not sure you do, either.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (Dnobf)

158 =====

The nullification crisis.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
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Your perspective on that is......different.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (Ffc+8)

159 Not hegemon, just a "balance" for Israel.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Dnobf)

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Thanks for reminding me about that. Good lord what a shitstain.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (wzAuc)

160
RedWave Press
@RedWave_Press
CNN’s Kaitlan Collins: “Is there any guarantee that if the U.S. did get involved militarily that a U.S. b*mb could destroy Iran's nuclear program and facilities?”

President Trump: “There's no guarantees in anything in life-- you know that. Look at you, right? There's no guarantee.”

CNN’s Kaitlan Collins: “Do you think if the U.S. got involved militarily it would actually wipe out Iran's nuclear program? Or where's your assessment of that?”

President Trump: “Well I hope their program's going to be wiped out long before then, but they're not going to have a nuclear weapon.”

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (TGPs7)

161 As I always thought you're nothing but a troll. Go back and be a cuck for all your liberal friends like you used to inexplicably brag about.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (VofaG)

Yes anyone who disagrees with you and your Fox News boomer take on world events is a troll.

I have no idea what youre talking about with liberal friends but whatever.

And hey I only represent what? 20-30 percent of Trump voters? Im sure insulting people with my positions will do a great job at winning elections going forward.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (zuAlv)

162 He's a Lefty YouTuber with a "show" called The Kyle Kulinski show on his channel Secular Talk. He's married to fellow Lefty media person Krystal Ball, who's older, and I think divorced her husband for Kyle?

Krystal Ball ? I'll take porn star names for 400 Alex.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (ewjUl)

163 Who will wipe our vegetables?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (63Dwl)

164 I'm going to suspend judgment until I find out what Rob Reiner thinks about this...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (PiwSw)

165 Vance is going to be able to take on the popular stuff and distance himself from the unpopular stuff in 28. If the Trump administration is overall considered a success, the distancing will be easy enough.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

NO! There is...another...

Posted by: Yoda Ace, pining for DeSantis 2028 at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (JCZqz)

166 President Trump: “There's no guarantees in anything in life-- you know that. Look at you, right? There's no guarantee.”

oh God that's funny

I like salty Trump!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (Pv3Rg)

167 How does Tucker plan to end Trump's presidency I wonder.

Maybe his DS bosses have another attentat in the works? 🤔

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (uSuNC)

168 Where is Fat Boy Austin with that stupid Plastic Mask to prevent his soberly body from getting the Wuhan Flu???

Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (aKoaI)

169 >>The 1976 revolution was a direct response to us installing a deeply unpopular dictator (twice) after the Iranian people elected people who wanted to keep that oil money in Iran.

It was nice of them to elect people who wanted to keep the oil money but it kind of ignores the fact that Iran made a deal with the Brits for BP to find and develop the oil fields because Iran had no idea how to do it in exchange for part of the proceeds. Then Iran had a change of heart after the oil was found.

Iran was not exactly innocent in what happened but it all went pear shaped after the Shah was installed.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (PQWix)

170 What a bunch of crybabies. Yeah, oppose him, whatever.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (+0yeI)
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This is about me isn't you bully!!![/sobs]

Posted by: Cryin Ron Pudilla at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (17s+e)

171 My Dad almost gad to go to that in circa 1976.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (P9gC0)

172 >>>Tucker comes off like an annoying reformed smoker who constantly nags everyone of the evils of smoking.
He was all in on the war in Iraq and when it turned out bad he embraced isolationism. He absolutely refuses to believe Iran can be as bad as they obviously are because we all got lied to about the intel on Iraq.

It's more than that.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (KRtlO)

173 So these people are claiming they would have voted Kamala if only they knew Trump's policy on Iran, eh?

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (E0p3T)

174 >>I don't believe it's all based in Jew hating

That is why you are confused.

It is pervasive and it runs deep.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (uZ2FS)

175 158 =====

The nullification crisis.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
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Your perspective on that is......different.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (Ffc+

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Renegotiating the tariff rates instead of arresting the SC politicians, starting with Calhoun, advocating for nullification was him folding.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

176 I mean we went after Iraq really at the behest of Iran!

at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"

Iran/China was driving our policy even then.

or just idiocy

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)

We went after Iraq because since Desert Storm, they were firing on US aircraft almost daily.

For starters.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (lHAAk)

177 I’m fine with Trump making the decisions, he is the CiC after all.

All I want to know is what is the dividing line between the USA and Israel foreign policy?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (tn3dm)

178 Candace Owens
@RealCandaceO
They tried to redefine antisemitism, criminalize criticism of Israel on college campuses, and most crucially, seed the idea that the declaration of Christ as our King amounted to hatred against Jews.
All of this was done in preparation for the
“Greater Israel” agenda, regarding which they attempted to emotionally manipulate Americans to accept.
The conspiracy theorists were right again. It was always about a planned war with Iran and a doomed, heretical belief that mass slaughter of women and children is messianic.

If you believe the polish Benjamin Mileikowsky is chosen by God to impart murder, starvation, rape and blackmail, then may God have mercy on your soul.

Netanyahu is of the synagogue of Satan. Every war he demands in congress ends with the mass slaughter of Christians. He is no more “God’s chosen” than Henrik Yagoda or Vladimir Lenin was before him.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (TGPs7)

179 Good thing Trump isn't running for Office.

He's already there.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (uZ2FS)

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People keep forgetting this.

Trump is not running again.

He's the Honey Badger President now because he just doesn't give a fuck.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (6ydKt)

180 Germany's Chancellor says " Israel is doing the World's dirty work ".

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (DLqye)

181 Ahnold puts some backhand to the harpies of the view

https://tinyurl.com/596mpahm

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (/U5Yz)

182 About now is when Tehran Tina should getting interviewed by CNN so she can explain how Allah and the Mullahs have Big and Little Satan right where they want them.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (m7pre)

183 165 Vance is going to be able to take on the popular stuff and distance himself from the unpopular stuff in 28. If the Trump administration is overall considered a success, the distancing will be easy enough.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

NO! There is...another...
Posted by: Yoda Ace, pining for DeSantis 2028 at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (JCZqz)

======

I think the only person with a remote shot will be Rubio.

Proximity to Trump is going to be so valuable in the 28 Republican primary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (GBKbO)

184 If Biden won a second term - I don't like thinking about the horrific consequences of that.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (m7pre)

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Ditto to Killary winning a first (or even second) term.

That alone makes Trump an American Immortal and Godsend ... but mostly Godsend.

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (diNR9)

185 Tuck can go pound sand

And I am off to the salt mines
Have a great afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (+qU29)

186 President Trump: “There's no guarantees in anything in life-- you know that. Look at you, right? There's no guarantee.”

oh God that's funny

I like salty Trump!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (Pv3Rg)
____________

TRUMP INSULTED A STRONK LADY GIRLBOSS. THE HORROR!

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (iFTx/)

187 And hey I only represent what? 20-30 percent of Trump voters? Im sure insulting people with my positions will do a great job at winning elections going forward.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (zuAlv)

You and friends would have preferred Kamala's position on Forever War, yeah?

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (E0p3T)

188 Tucker comes off like an annoying reformed smoker who constantly nags everyone of the evils of smoking.

He was all in on the war in Iraq and when it turned out bad he embraced isolationism.
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Iraq wasn't wrong because it was wrong. It was wrong because Iran and Saudi were more likely to have been involved in 9/11 and because *whoever* you wish to wage war with must be taught that the destruction of their stuff will continue UNTIL the bring ALL of their forces (uniformed and otherwise) to a complete stop. IF we were going to "do" Iraq, it should have been pounding after pounding until there was no longer any resistance offered. Iraq turned out horribly because its objectives were wrong and as a result its execution cost our soldiers dearly.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (TN0g+)

189 The best thing about no mullah Iran would be less funding to hamas, hezboula, and hutis.

No to the 3H!

4H is good program though.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (rvwwT)

190 >>It was nice of them to elect people who wanted to keep the oil money but it kind of ignores the fact that Iran made a deal with the Brits for BP to find and develop the oil fields because Iran had no idea how to do it in exchange for part of the proceeds. Then Iran had a change of heart after the oil was found.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Amazing what our Gen Z rep doesn't know.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (uZ2FS)

191 166 President Trump: “There's no guarantees in anything in life-- you know that. Look at you, right? There's no guarantee.”

oh God that's funny
I like salty Trump!
Posted by: Black Orchid

I did the same thing and it backfired! Damn that Trump and his privilege!

Posted by: Sen Ernst, saying "we're all going to die" responding to a Medicaid question at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (JCZqz)

192
thanks Jimmy you idiot. trusting the revolutionaries. of course you did.
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM

We had two new students in the mid 70s in my class. I still remember the Persian kid and the other kid that moved here from Saudi Arabia telling us about chop chop square. I believe the Persian kid's family was associated with the Shah and they fled.

The Persian kid's older sister had an arm full of gold bangles and you didn't see that kind of jewelry then. I don't remember her name but I remember the boy's name.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (v2VfP)

193 umm is that entire post a quote from Owens or?

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

194 Fuck's aches, just find some IAF stickers and slap 'em on a B-2. Put a fake xpdr on the bastard and bombs away. The five sided nuthouse can pay for it out of petty cash for cryin' out loud. This isn't some massive intractable problem here.

Or just bomb the shit out the damn cyclotrons ourselves and say "because Fuck You that's why". Let all the sniveling bitches have their little tantrums in their little newspapers that no one reads, who cares.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (BcT2b)

195 101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?

Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Eg3nV)

Iran has been at War with the Great Satan since the late 70's. It's nothing new.

Sorry, for me this is a bit personal, as I helped pick up Dead Bodies in Beirut in 83... died when a Truck Bomb designed and Built in Iran, and driven across Syria to Beirut, destroyed our Marine Barracks.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (mP0Kj)

196 Hope Tucker made enough money.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (A5bjg)

197 163 Who will wipe our vegetables?

I have recently started giving my fresh produce a vinegar bath before consuming.

Omg, what have I been consuming all these years?? Frightening what the water looks like.

I ate a lot of unadulterated produce growing up due to oarents/grandparents growing lots of vegetables and some fruit. Guess I’ll have to find another source if homegrown

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (uSuNC)

198 >>It's more than that.

Sure, there's more now. But that was the genesis of his morphing from a hawk to an isolationist and Israel bad because they have the temerity to fight back instead of rolling over and dying.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (PQWix)

199 196 Hope Tucker made enough money.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (A5bjg)

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Comes from old money. He's already rich and will always be rich.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (GBKbO)

200 I think we should just bomb Ireland to be honest.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (fV+MH)

201
The problem with allowing Israel to eliminate the Iranian nuclear program is that they can't. The primary site of concern is under a mountain too deep for IAF ordnance to penetrate. The US has a bomb that can do the job, but Israel has no bombers with the range and payload capacity to deliver it. So the only way for Israel to wipe out the nuclear program is with US bombs delivered from US planes. That's just the reality of the situation.
Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (xBngO)

Pretty sure the Israelis said they have a plan which does not require US help. And considering that when Dems are in power they would have to have that plan, so I tend to believe them. Prolly something more sophisticated than a 30000 lb bomb.

Posted by: Lt oddball at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (OA79/)

202 107 101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?

Posted by: Its not raining

I don't believe he's involved us in any.
Posted by: Dr Spank

Let's see where we stand tomorrow.

Posted by: No confidence at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (Eg3nV)

203 It was nice of them to elect people who wanted to keep the oil money but it kind of ignores the fact that Iran made a deal with the Brits for BP to find and develop the oil fields because Iran had no idea how to do it in exchange for part of the proceeds. Then Iran had a change of heart after the oil was found.

Iran was not exactly innocent in what happened but it all went pear shaped after the Shah was installed.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (PQWix)

Absolutely. But there are repercussions to overthrowing governments and installing brutal dictators.

A lesson the US and our retarded European allies seem incapable of learning.

Or if youre a cynical type you might think they know exactly what theyre doing and its by design to keep the money flowing to the military industrial complex / deep state.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (zuAlv)

204 On a non-related point, Fat Harvey got convicted on one count of sexual assault.

The jurors instantly went to the media and whined and cried and made Mean-Girl-type accusations against other jurors. One juror was earlier dismissed for whining about other jurors. Total reality-TV circus.

I'm sure the jury took their responsibilities very seriously in dispassionately deliberating over the charges against Fat Harv.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)

205 >>People keep forgetting this.

>>Trump is not running again.

Kings don't run for office. duh

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (PQWix)

206 Netanyahu is of the synagogue of Satan. Every war he demands in congress ends with the mass slaughter of Christians. He is no more “God’s chosen” than Henrik Yagoda or Vladimir Lenin was before him.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (TGPs7)

Wait, which Christians are being slaughtered because of Netanyahu? Where?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (Mxf84)

207 I think we should just bomb Ireland to be honest.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (fV+MH)

Don't even joke about that. You go after my Irish Redheads and there will be hell to pay.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (E0p3T)

208 Or just bomb the shit out the damn cyclotrons ourselves and say "because Fuck You that's why". Let all the sniveling bitches have their little tantrums in their little newspapers that no one reads, who cares.

CUT
JIB
NEWSLETTAHHHH

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (Pv3Rg)

209 Warai, seconded

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (DLqye)

210 Yep. We and the Brits have been fucking around with Iranian domestic affairs for almost 100 years now. It all goes back to the discovery of oil in Iran by the Brits.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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The Brits have been involved for more like 200+ years, along with the Russians. It was a front in the Great Game.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (ITkJX)

211 205 >>Trump is not running again.

Kings don't run for office. duh
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (PQWix)

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God Emperors rule for 3500 years to put humanity on the Golden Path.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (GBKbO)

212 Regarding #178. Just curious for an approximate date on that?

Also, if that's a verified quote, I'd love to hear Candace's defenders try to explain why they still hold any respect for her after that post?

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (TN0g+)

213 Or just bomb the shit out the damn cyclotrons ourselves and say "because Fuck You that's why". Let all the sniveling bitches have their little tantrums in their little newspapers that no one reads, who cares.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (BcT2b)

Wonder how much outside movement a spinning centrifuge can survive... can't be much those tolerances have to be pretty tight at the speed those spin...

Multiple bombs, dropped off target in a line leading to said target, timed to increase the shock wave created by the first bomb.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (mP0Kj)

214 I have to confess that I liked the 'Deffs to da Shah' students in college than the 'We only want our land' Palestinians. Those guys were boring.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (jc0TO)

215 174 >>I don't believe it's all based in Jew hating

That is why you are confused.

It is pervasive and it runs deep.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (uZ2FS)

It's weirdly popular, I'll give you that. Not just hushed conversations now but full blown agenda.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (A5bjg)

216 "Vance is going to be able to take on the popular stuff and distance himself from the unpopular stuff in 28. If the Trump administration is overall considered a success, the distancing will be easy enough."

James, I disagree. The problem that any vice-president faces is to distinguish himself from his predecessor, and his predecessor's mistakes (and every president makes them) while not alienating his predecessor's supporters. The only VP who managed that successfully was Thomas Jefferson, and that was only because his predecessor, John Adams, was himself deeply unpopular - mainly because Adams tried to be his own man rather than the second coming of George Washington. It will be very hard for Vance to define himself as his own man without alienating Trump's MAGA supporters. Vance might well be better off waiting a few years - say, after the DeSantis administration - before re-entering the presidental stakes, much like Richard Nixon did.

Posted by: The MSM at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (4RPgu)

217 199 196 Hope Tucker made enough money.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (A5bjg)

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Comes from old money. He's already rich and will always be rich.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (GBKbO)

He should find a new hobbies like raising thoroughbred or America's cup sailing.199 196 Hope Tucker made enough money.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (OA79/)

218 "Germany's Chancellor says " Israel is doing the World's dirty work ".
Posted by: Ben Had "

Wow, really?

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (fV+MH)

219 They both start with T. Close enough!
.....

tehran (low T)

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (UjdFS)

220 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (zuAlv)

Ah...the first option for a flaccid intellect...ad hominem arguments.

Your ignorant and transparent attempt to tar Trump with the neo-con brush is ridiculous. Try to understand his foreign policy, and not just reflexively criticize it.

It's not difficult. He says it in plain English, using simple declaratory sentences.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (L5An7)

221 It's worked out so well in the past, Marky boy...

Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow
Isolationists stand in the way of Trump and Netanyahu transforming the Middle East

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (TGPs7)

222 Comes from old money. He's already rich and will always be rich.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (GBKbO)

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Carlson's mother is an heiress to the Swanson family (food products) fortune, or something.

His father was a producer for ABC News.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (6ydKt)

223 That's where I am. What did we develop a Massive Ordnance Penetrator for? Just drop it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

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Sell it to Israel and lend them the plane.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu

Call it a Test Drive.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (NHiEn)

224 Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (TGPs7)

Another libertarian I assume.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (VofaG)

225 And now a message from Prince Pahlavi to the people of Iran:

https://tinyurl.com/ywrde99v

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (n+rGF)

226 4H is good program though.

Sigh. 4H girls...

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (28IDa)

227 Netanyahu is of the synagogue of Satan. Every war he demands in congress ends with the mass slaughter of Christians.
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It should be easy to list one, in that case.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (Dnobf)

228 Krystal Ball ? I'll take porn star names for 400 Alex.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Who would believe a name like that?
Posted by: Harry Glasscock

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (PfGa7)

229 I think we should just bomb Ireland to be honest.
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There's two types of people I can't stand--those that are intolerant of others, and the Dutch.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:27 PM (TN0g+)

230 Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

She doesn’t have to worry about losing a paycheck due to her marrying WAY up in the world. So now webget Candace Unplugged.

I hope someday she is embarrassed about what she has written. If she doesn’t, I see her morphing into a mash-up of Rosa DiLauro and Maxine Waters.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:27 PM (PFbvp)

231 Posted by: Goucho at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (vFpe0)

Another long-time viewer chimes in...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:27 PM (91YPD)

232 This is what the isolationists don't see - first, this is the culmination of a 40+ year conflict against the Ayatollahs, and second, they are now on the ropes and ready to fall. One more little push and they're gone. They could have been gone during Obama's time, but he backed the regime instead of the people.

Israel has already done all of the hard work. They're ready to fall, right now. So does anyone seriously think Trump will become unpopular for winning one of the most overwhelming and one sided victories in US History? Really? Really? Well sit on the sidelines and watch and see how it plays out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:28 PM (uWKK8)

233 I really don't get the anti-Israel stance a lot on the right seem to be taking. I don't believe it's all based in Jew hating,

There are two Israels, just like there are two Americas. Why are *we* hated around the world? We aren't- it's our Deep State faction and its actions that are.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 03:28 PM (x405f)

234 Thanks for pointing that out.

Amazing what our Gen Z rep doesn't know.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (uZ2FS)

Im way too old to be gen z. And I of course know the history of US and British involvement in Iran. As does everyone commenting on the issue of war with Iran I would assume. Right? Or are people just repeating the same nonsense that they know nothing about that got us involved in Iraq?

Why did we elect Trump and not Jeb! If this going to be the republican foreign policy?

Jeb would have at least kept dick Cheney in the republican camp.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (zuAlv)

235 Nice rant Ace!

Ok Iran is in a corner where their only 2 options are 1) "Use'em or lose'em" on whatever weapons they have left or 2) Give up.

They still aren't convinced to go with option 2 because they still have Fordow, and think that gives them "negotiating room".

That leaves 4 options for eliminating Fordow from the equation (2 hard, 2 easy):

Hard 1: Israel hits Fordow from the air, over, and over, and over, and over....again. Until all power, air, entrances, etc are sealed off.
Hard 2: Israel hits Fordow wih a ground assault with MANY lost lives, until everything is sealed off.
Easy 1: Someone (insurgents, disaafected military, etc.) infiltrates Fordow and blows it up. Lots of lost lives among the insurgents, but no Israeli (or US) casulaties.
Easy 2: US hits Fordow with "Bunker Busters" until it is a smoking hole.

Just my thoughts.
-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (e/Osv)

236 ayfkm? srsly? bomb Tel Aviv? WTAF?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (/Ghsb)

237 140 I mean we went after Iraq really at the behest of Iran!

at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)

Iraq/Saddam's government was being taken over by Salafists, which are Islamic radicals like the Wahabbis.

The surviving members of this movement, particularly some officers, ended up forming the core of ISIS.

By comparison in Saudi Arabia we were able to cooperate with the monarchy in the 2000s to curtail the Wahabbis.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (okun6)

238 Everyone talks that bullshit about our two parties meeting in the middle at their endpoints (due to a misidentification between America and the persistent historic Euro infatuation with authoritarianism) but I will say there is a definite place where they meet and shake hands, and it is Jew-hate.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (E0p3T)

239 >>His father was a producer for ABC News.

His father was CIA.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (PQWix)

240 Do I completely trust the Israelis? No. Do I think they have a perfect track record of behavior? No, no one does. But do I see them as our only real ally there and do I admire the military operations they can pull off? Damn right i do.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (f70Xg)

I am a balls-to-the-wall Israel fan, not least because I have a bunch of family there, and my mother was born there.

But what you say is perfectly reasonable, and is all I hope for in America.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (L5An7)

241 Don't even joke about that. You go after my Irish Redheads and there will be hell to pay.
Posted by: ...

Busty ✔️ Leggy ✔️ Pale ✔️ Insane 💯 https://tinyurl.com/2ac3dz64

But, I mean, you can always make an exception...right?

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (JCZqz)

242 Trump's base may not desert him, but Trump's base didn't get him elected. It was the other 10-15%, like Hispanics, black men, and generally people who looked at the Democratic party as lunatics, who got him over the line. Lose them by fucking up the economy, losing the deportation battle, and/or committing them and their kids to another ME war, and it's basically over for his agenda. That's what people are concerned about; not sparing Iran from the beating they deserve.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (MZ+PY)

243 232 Israel has already done all of the hard work. They're ready to fall, right now. So does anyone seriously think Trump will become unpopular for winning one of the most overwhelming and one sided victories in US History? Really? Really? Well sit on the sidelines and watch and see how it plays out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:28 PM (uWKK

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I kind of doubt outright American involvement is required to get the fall.

Sustained background support to keep Israel supplied while it tears apart Iran's anti-aircraft and nuclear infrastructure, as much as possible from the air, yes, but not even one direct fire of a missile from us.

If Iran is already seeing thousands of political prisoners streaming out of jails after just a couple of days, this is not a regime long for this world without a lifeline. It's in the process of collapse. And the longer it goes on, the more brazen Israel can become and the more emboldened internal resistance can grow.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (GBKbO)

244 Could the IDF take out the toughest nuclear site with ground troops?

Does total air supremacy mean the Iranians cannot shoot down Israeli fighters, but they might still retain the capability to shoot down lumbering troop transports?

If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)

245 Why did we elect Trump and not Jeb! If this going to be the republican foreign policy?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (zuAlv)

If "what" is going to be the Republican foreign policy.

"Getting involved"?

A bit simplistic, no?

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (E0p3T)

246 Horde status check:

Hair:
[] not on fire
[] on fire

Tits:
[] calm
[] hysterical

Jets:
[] cool
[] flaming with RAGE!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (6YdsJ)

247 13 Tucker is convinced that he called off an attack on Iran during the first Trump term. Maybe he did. But since then he’s been under the mistaken notion that he calls Trump’s foreign policy. Which, thankfully, he doesn’t.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (f7GkW)

Tucker probably faces east every morning and commands the Sun to rise. Clearly he's calling the shots...

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (hOOi9)

248 Even the French are coming.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (P9gC0)

249 I greatly appreciate how tough-minded Trump is. The media is lying when they characterize him as erratic. He has a clear vision and a true moral compass and he is going to do what is right.

I love and admire that man.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (rF2iL)

250 Fordow is irrelevant anyway if you just keep killing enough of the assholes that they fill the hole back in themselves out of sheer terror.

Make 'em bust their own bunker.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (BcT2b)

251 Kanye West fucked Candace's brains out until she turned into a full-on Nazi Bitch who could put Leni Riefenstahl to shame.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (uWKK8)

252 Summary of my opinion about Trump: US Trump. The Mullahs, with help from Bath House Barry, squeezed this turd onto his plate. There never was any doubt how he would respond when it got down to the proverbial brass tacks. This is why I voted for him, he does not disappoint. Greatest president since Lincoln.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (m7pre)

253 223 That's where I am. What did we develop a Massive Ordnance Penetrator for? Just drop it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

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Sell it to Israel and lend them the plane.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu

Call it a Test Drive.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (NHiEn)

Maybe do a live test of a circumnavigation fully loaded B2 bomb run and it sorta falls off the truck or something

Whoops whoopsies..

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (OA79/)

254 I will buy you a garden
Where your flowers can bloom.
I will buy you a new house
Bright, shiny and new.

Was that Everclear?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (zZu0s)

255 Interesting. We haven't had a Musk, X, free speech, or strong empowered girlboss AG post in a while, have we?

Elon Musk’s social media company X Corp reportedly sued New York Attorney General Letitia James in Manhattan federal court on Tuesday, saying the state’s "Stop Hiding Hate" law tramples the First Amendment by forcing platforms to reveal how they police user speech.

The legislation, modeled after a now-revised California bill, requires large social networks to publish their content moderation rules and file twice-yearly reports to the attorney general detailing "hate speech" removals, "disinformation" takedowns and other enforcement actions. X argues the disclosures mandate mirrors the California law a federal appeals court.

https://tinyurl.com/bpafvbc2

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (iFTx/)

256 His father was a producer for ABC News.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (6ydKt)

His father was almost definitely involved with the CIA. And as Putin pointed out pointedly in the interview with Carlson - Tucker also tried to join the cia.

I dont know why anyone cares what that deep state scion thinks. Whatever he thinks today will change next week if history is any judge.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (zuAlv)

257 eleven. He did indeed say that.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (DLqye)

258 225 And now a message from Prince Pahlavi to the people of Iran:

https://tinyurl.com/ywrde99v

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (n+rGF)

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If what he's saying can happen that would be the best possible outcome at this point.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (6ydKt)

259 Why did we elect Trump and not Jeb! If this going to be the republican foreign policy?

Jeb would have at least kept dick Cheney in the republican camp.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (zuAlv)

Brainless binary thinking.

Put the bong down, kick out the other sophomores in your dorm room, sober up, and then read some books.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (L5An7)

260 But, I mean, you can always make an exception...right?

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (JCZqz)

What worries me dearly is how many pics you trawl through that you *don't* post. I don't even get to the why...

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (E0p3T)

261 I mean we went after Iraq really at the behest of Iran!

at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)

Iraq/Saddam's government was being taken over by Salafists, which are Islamic radicals like the Wahabbis.

Does everyone forget the year run up to the war where the reasons were laid out . In addition to having actual legislation during the Clinton administration that outlined what would justify military action against Iraq.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:33 PM (VofaG)

262 His father was CIA.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (PQWix)

Well that tracks, since legacy media is pretty much an op.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:33 PM (PFbvp)

263 Everyone talks that bullshit about our two parties meeting in the middle at their endpoints (due to a misidentification between America and the persistent historic Euro infatuation with authoritarianism) but I will say there is a definite place where they meet and shake hands, and it is Jew-hate.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM

Yep. I don't get it. I left Gateway this am, way to many Jew bashing idiots over there. For the record. I am not Jewish (proudly a flawed Christian) But I stand with them. I don't always agree with them, but hell, I don't agree with my wife all the time either.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:33 PM (ewjUl)

264 But apparently when Trump said this over and over and over again, the hyper-isolationists all heard him saying, "I promise I will pursue Barack Obama's Iran policy and help Iran get a nuclear bomb. And also, again like Barack Obama, when Iran's regime is fatally threatened, I will step in to save it."

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"I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

This is the Democrats/WEF(?) stupid 6 Great Equal Powers Control the World Nonsense....like Rollerball's premise only with socialist monkeys instead of corporations and stupider. And no cool sports.

Iran is to be the Big Daddy Power in their neck of the woods.

Madeline Albright's been spewing this silliness along with the DNC since Preezy Clinton was in office.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (iJfKG)

265 The hyper-isolationists are threatening that Trump doing the things Trump has repeatedly promised to do would "fracture the base." This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.

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Pretty sure The Lincoln Project has desk space...

Posted by: bearski at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (Bhsk7)

266 246 Horde status check:

Hair:
[] not on fire
[] on fire

Tits:
[] calm
[] hysterical

Jets:
[] cool
[] flaming with RAGE!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (6YdsJ)

You forgot

Concern:
[ ] Noted
[ ] Not Notes

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (Mxf84)

267 Yeah, Iran cannot have the bomb and our own intelligence said they did not have it. To go from the no war president to this with the world on the edge feels like betrayal. I don't care what Israel does, they started it they can finish it. Hopefully it all works out but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (fN+0V)

268 Didn't Carlson have a meltdown about Trump starting s world war with North Korea?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (kTd/k)

269
Zineb Riboua
@zriboua
U.S. interests in the Middle East are simple: secure oil, safe shipping, no terrorism, no nukes. Israel helps deliver all four. Obsessing over Israeli domestic politics and Netanyahu misses the strategic point, and it’s usually done intentionally to advance an anti-US agenda.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (TGPs7)

270 267 Yeah, Iran cannot have the bomb and our own intelligence said they did not have it. To go from the no war president to this with the world on the edge feels like betrayal. I don't care what Israel does, they started it they can finish it. Hopefully it all works out but I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (fN+0V)

======

The IAEA said, the day before Israel started bombing, that Iran was out of compliance with limitations on uranium enrichment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

271 I dont know why anyone cares what that deep state scion thinks. Whatever he thinks today will change next week if history is any judge.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (zuAlv)

I've watched one or two interviews Tucker did over the last two years or so, whenever it was he left Fox.

His opinion doesn't really mean much these days.

But I'm amused that Tucker's name was mentioned as vice-presidential candidate for a time last year.

That tide has definitely turned.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (6ydKt)

272 >>Does everyone forget the year run up to the war

Yes.

Literally, from the instant it happened. It has never been discussed again.

Only, Muh YellowCakes!

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (uZ2FS)

273 If "what" is going to be the Republican foreign policy.

"Getting involved"?

A bit simplistic, no?
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (E0p3T)

Trump said he was going to end the wars and reign in the deep state.

That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (zuAlv)

274 Horde status check:

Hair:
[] not on fire
[] on fire

Tits:
[] calm
[] hysterical

Jets:
[] cool
[] flaming with RAGE!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (6YdsJ)

Concern:
[ ] Noted
[ ] Not Notes
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (Mxf84)
_______

Penis:

[ ] Erect
[ ] Not erect

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)

275 If Trump uses the Bunker Buster in Iran, I will definitely blow my wad in my gym short from the Testosterone Burst without Blue Chew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:35 PM (BltCC)

276 Not sure at this point who lives in a bigger fantasy land.

The Democrats or the Tucker Carlson wing of the GOPes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (Ar3gH)

277 I kind of doubt outright American involvement is required to get the fall.

Sustained background support to keep Israel supplied while it tears apart Iran's anti-aircraft and nuclear infrastructure, as much as possible from the air, yes, but not even one direct fire of a missile from us.

If Iran is already seeing thousands of political prisoners streaming out of jails after just a couple of days, this is not a regime long for this world without a lifeline. It's in the process of collapse. And the longer it goes on, the more brazen Israel can become and the more emboldened internal resistance can grow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (GBKbO)

I agree - the Regime is cracking already, and I don't think US involvement is necessary. If it was my choice, I probably would forbear.

BUT I can also see how Trump would feel it would give him an incredible boost in "street cred" if he jumps in and delivers the Coup de Grace with one overwhelming blow. Next time he's in a room with Putin, he can just sit there and say "heh heh heh, did you see what I did? One punch and out!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (uWKK8)

278 254 I will buy you a garden
Where your flowers can bloom.
I will buy you a new house
Bright, shiny and new.

Was that Everclear?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (zZu0s)

Yes, New Life by Everclear.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (v2VfP)

279 I am a balls-to-the-wall Israel fan, not least because I have a bunch of family there, and my mother was born there.

But what you say is perfectly reasonable, and is all I hope for in America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (L5An7)

I am more isolationist than most here... not because I want a total pull back of US forces, but because I think we are way over deployed and getting into fights that don't actually help us.

THIS however, is one fight we've been in since the late 70's... and we need to finish it so we don't have to keep going back again and again.

One MAJOR problem I have with US Policy, is that the Military goes out and wins the Fights, then the Politicians squander the Victory.... From Viet Nam on... it's been the Pattern, consistently.

If we are going to fight.. fight all out and end it.... or don't start the damn fight in the first place.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (mP0Kj)

280 Once Trump oversees the dismantling of the Mullah regime and bring peace to the Middle East, much to the dismay of libs everywhere, he will focus on Russia-Ukraine. He will convince the Ukrainians to get back to the table and negotiate a peace.

Posted by: Diabeetus at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (SawFp)

281 Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (JCZqz)

You are a horrible human being (or Mon Calamari), and there is a special place in hell for you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (L5An7)

282 244 Could the IDF take out the toughest nuclear site with ground troops?

Does total air supremacy mean the Iranians cannot shoot down Israeli fighters, but they might still retain the capability to shoot down lumbering troop transports?

If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)

I was thinking like this. Basically build a forward operating base right out front of the doors and aim all your artillery and slpodey flyboy stuff back at the rest of Iran. Just keep blasting the blast doors with shaped charges until you are in. I can't imagine that Iran is in a position to mount any sort of organized counterattack.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (OA79/)

283 Brainless binary thinking.

Put the bong down, kick out the other sophomores in your dorm room, sober up, and then read some books.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (L5An7)

Perhaps not as gentle as I was going to say.

I am looking at the players here. Who is giving Trump grief, who isn't, yada yada. It's very difficult for me to see that a Trump who hates the GOPe and has significant power over it would roll over for them.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (aqrdH)

284 Lot of so called right wing influencers got drunk on the Qatari grift money

We know who they are.

Posted by: Big Star at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (Modkf)

285 >>Trump said he was going to end the wars and reign in the deep state.

>>That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.

I guess it all depends on whether you believe we've ever not been at war with Iran over the last 40+ years.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (PQWix)

286 All I want to know is what is the dividing line between the USA and Israel foreign policy?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (tn3dm)

I'm okay with US Marines looting and then burning the al-Aqsa Mosque

Too soon?

Posted by: 13times at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (H7kgD)

287 Afghanistan's debacle turned me into a dove on fighting pointless wars overseas. To the point I'm now to the left of the "Ukraine uber alles!" commie peaceniks. The last thing I want is a land war in Iran. I don't want any more of our solder's blood spilled there. They've paid enough.

But, if world events like stopping WW3 force us to act, Trump is the ONLY president -- including the stuttering lead-from-behind, drone curious Obama -- who will do so with restraint when necessary, instead of letting the neocon and liberalhawk pigdogs slobber over and dictate unending war. He was the only one to have no new wars started under his watch; if he can, I think he wants a repeat this term. But we MUST lead through strength.

I worry though, that if any war started by Trump isn't ended during his term, it will never be. So let any wars he must start be swift, brutal, and short.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (Eng1Z)

288 I heard cruise missiles have been launched now by US ships. Stay tuned.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (n+rGF)

289 244 Could the IDF take out the toughest nuclear site with ground troops?

Does total air supremacy mean the Iranians cannot shoot down Israeli fighters, but they might still retain the capability to shoot down lumbering troop transports?

If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)

I'm telling ya, airvents.

Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)

290 277 I agree - the Regime is cracking already, and I don't think US involvement is necessary. If it was my choice, I probably would forbear.

BUT I can also see how Trump would feel it would give him an incredible boost in "street cred" if he jumps in and delivers the Coup de Grace with one overwhelming blow. Next time he's in a room with Putin, he can just sit there and say "heh heh heh, did you see what I did? One punch and out!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (uWKK

=======

I believe Trump, based on his actions, does not want sustained American involvement in anything and understands the slippery slope of getting too involved.

Plus, you know, Israel is showing every sign of being in control of the situation in Iran.

Where they need help most urgently is probably refilling Iron Dome munitions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (GBKbO)

291
It was nice of them to elect people who wanted to keep the oil money but it kind of ignores the fact that Iran made a deal with the Brits for BP to find and develop the oil fields because Iran had no idea how to do it in exchange for part of the proceeds. Then Iran had a change of heart after the oil was found.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (uZ2FS)

Similar deal with Egypt nationalizing the Suez Canal and blockading all Israel-bound ship traffic in the Straits of Tiran (in total violation of international maritime law) in '56, just to be dicks.

When Eisenhower put the screws to the Limeys and the Frogs to leave Egypt after kicking gyppo ass, that qualifies as one of the few fuck-ups of his administration.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (y9nCu)

292 268 Didn't Carlson have a meltdown about Trump starting s world war with North Korea?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (kTd/k)

Eff him and his screechy bogus laugh straight to H.e.l.l.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (PFbvp)

293 Trump said he was going to end the wars and reign in the deep state.

That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (zuAlv)

Have you noticed how often what "seems" to be happening with or around Trump very often isn't, sometimes as little as 48 hours, or as much as several months later?

At least be honest enough to say you're willing to see if this leads to either peace through strength, or ground troops in Iran.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (E0p3T)

294 If we are going to fight.. fight all out and end it.... or don't start the damn fight in the first place.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (mP0Kj)

And then get the hell out!

100% in agreement.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (L5An7)

295 Cannot say enough how refreshing it is to read here today. Always funny and I laugh like a junior high boy. But today, reading elsewhere that some believe the hype that President Trump is causing war, entering war, sleeping with war, is enough to make me sprout horns.

I am a pretty smart former supermodel. Even I can see the MSM hype, read snippits of X hype for division. I greet this all with disgusted derision. I spit in their general direction.

The Loomers or similar of the X phere are to blame. Because SHE ALONE knows what to do and what is going on. I suggest she have a respite after a much needed rhinoplasty. Needed for cosmetic reasons and sticking her proboscis into matters she should not, for hysterical clicking of, and I am judging here, old wimmen who read X as if it was the authority and straight from the White House Situation Room.

I feel a bit bitchy today on the subject. I love you all, and Ace is the dude.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (6PCLE)

296 BUT I can also see how Trump would feel it would give him an incredible boost in "street cred" if he jumps in and delivers the Coup de Grace with one overwhelming blow. Next time he's in a room with Putin, he can just sit there and say "heh heh heh, did you see what I did? One punch and out!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (uWKK

Nope, for one main reason. DC believes in the concept of 'if you broke it, you bought it'... we would end up occupying Iran for years.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (mP0Kj)

297 Tits:
[] calm
[] hysterical

You left out:
[] AWESOME!
And:
[] YES PLEASE!

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (e/Osv)

298 Trump never said he would go to war with Iran to stop them from getting the bomb. Trump never said he would go to war with Iran if Israel started a war with Iran. Trump did say Gaza would never have happened he said Ukraine would never have happened. The Gung ho types seemingly pumped about this conflict might change thier tunes in a few weeks if this blows up in our face. When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.

Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)

299 "I will buy you a garden
Where your flowers can bloom.
I will buy you a new house
Bright, shiny and new.

Was that Everclear?
Posted by: Aetius451AD "

Pretty sure that was 50 cent.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (fV+MH)

300 I don't care what Israel does, they started it they can finish it.
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That's a blinkered reading of history if you believe Israel "started it".

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (TN0g+)

301 Horde status check:

Hair:
[] not on fire
[] on fire

Tits:
[] calm
[] hysterical

Jets:
[] cool
[] flaming with RAGE!
Posted by: Captain Obvious

Horde status check:

Hair:
not on fire
Tits:
calm
Jets:
cool

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (PfGa7)

302 TBF to Trump, he has said Iran can’t have a nuke.

It also doesn’t mean that we have to like it and can voice our opinion stating as such.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (eZwyX)

303 "Here's to short bloody wars and sickly seasons."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (Ar3gH)

304 Trump's response to the Ragshead's demand for negation's ASAP is below...........

Gunter, Gleiben, Glauchen, Globen ................

Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (BltCC)

305 1000% This.

Konstantin Kisin 2:04 PM Jun 16, 2025

Joking aside, the reason the online isolationists are having such a meltdown is actually not even that they are “anti-war”. Current events are shattering the illusion that their hot takes are representative or influential. This is why they’re so upset.

The reason they have been able to maintain this illusion in their minds despite the fact that President Trump has always been pro-Israel and a hawk on Iran is that the illusion was flattering to them.

Thousands and thousands of likes on their posts about how Churchill was the chief villain of WWII and Israel is the root of all evil went to their head. They thought they had power. The thought they had influence. And now that they’ve realized they don’t they’re calling for Trump to be impeached

My thoughts and prayers are with them at this difficult time.

Posted by: Cheri at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (oiNtH)

306 When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.
Posted by: Whirligiginator
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I'm not sure where you came from, but please feel free to go back there.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (TN0g+)

307 I could give a fuck about some line between Israel and Americas foreign policies. Why do we have to tip-toe around a bunch of whiney cnts? How many Americans have them cocksuckers murdered with IED's in Iraq and terorism? Israel delivered a blow that knocked them on their ass now we need to deliver a kick to the head with a steel toe boot to finish these pricks off. IDGAF if it's a nuke or some other bomb that drives a stake through their nuclear programs heart. Good lord we're a bunch of sniveling pussies even on our side. No boots on ground. Give Israel a bomb(s) and rent them a plane. Put the Star of David on the f'ing plane and shove a bomb up their ass.

Posted by: JROD at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (IlL6s)

308 Do you cut the red wire first?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (P9gC0)

309 What the Israelis have pulled of is nothing short of brilliant. They're pretty sharp, for sure, and they apparently had cooperation from people within Iran who can't stand the Islamists, but I have to wonder if the US military wasn't heavily involved in planning this.

From what I hear, the US has moved B-52s capable of dropping bunker busters to Diego Garcia, and a whole bunch of refueling tankers to the area. So if Trump decides it's necessary to use that stuff, we're ready.

Nobody is going to genuinely complain when the evil regime in Iran is finally gone, and we finally see peace in the Middle East. It reminds me of when the Berlin Wall fell - something I thought I would never see. Like the USSR, the Iranian regime is fragile, and just needs a little push.

Trump's recent commentary means "Ace was right", BTW. This is a for-real war, and Israel (and Trump) mean to end this threat once and for all.

Somebody also commented that something mind-blowing was in store on Thursday/Friday. You can't tell me the US military isn't in on this.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (hOOi9)

310 If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)

I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)

/Nods

Posted by: Maverick at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (mP0Kj)

311 Trump said he was going to end the wars and reign in the deep state.

That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (zuAlv)
_____

I tend not to get into arguments that involve hotbutton issues that divide even conservatives, like Israel, generational shit-throwing, and whether Michele Obama has a dick.

But I think I see the disconnect here. Trump is not starting this war or "getting involved" in this war. The war pre-exists him, has for decades, and we have been "involved" -- usually on the wrong side -- for decades. Trump is trying to finally end this war.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (iFTx/)

312 Give a listen to what Pahlavi said. There will no US troops on the ground.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (DLqye)

313 304 Trump's response to the Ragshead's demand for negation's ASAP is below...........

Gunter, Gleiben, Glauchen, Globen ................

Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (BltCC)

I got something to say...

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (e/Osv)

314 and yes, Bravo, Ace!
I vote for Moar Of This, every day!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (/Ghsb)

315 308 Do you cut the red wire first?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (P9gC0)

======

"No the green one."
"But I'm color blind!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

316 I think this is something that had to be done (since the 80's probably), but also realize the following years I fear what is going to be done is wasted billions being sent to Iran to prop up a new regime.

If it was bomb it and forget it, I would be ok, but I think the chance of that is zero.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (rvwwT)

317 The Gung ho types seemingly pumped about this conflict might change thier tunes in a few weeks if this blows up in our face. When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)

And the people worrying about how terrible this is will be in the corner licking their own assholes in a few weeks when Iran is free and the threat of the Ayatollah's is gone forever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (uWKK8)

318 I heard cruise missiles have been launched now by US ships. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (n+rGF)
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Got it from an anonymous source but so far can't pick it up anywhere else. Boulder of salt.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (n+rGF)

319 When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM

I disagree.

Posted by: toby928 nullifies your vote at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (jc0TO)

320 Wonder what name Tucker Carson would use when he comes here?

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (ry0b8)

321 @ 194, spot-on W-o!

end this once and for all

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (/Ghsb)

322 Can the little bitches so concerned about boots on the ground shut the fuck up. It's not going to happen. No one is calling for that (well Lindsay Graham, but she's weird)

Posted by: Big Star at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (Modkf)

323 Loveshack over Texas.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (P9gC0)

324 281 Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (JCZqz)

You are a horrible human being (or Mon Calamari), and there is a special place in hell for you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

What's sexier than 1 Irish girl? 2 Irish girls! That are siblings! I mean, with all those multipliers, how many points does both of them being trans REALLY deduct? It Pride Month! Lol...

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (JCZqz)

325 >>The Gung ho types seemingly pumped about this conflict might change thier tunes in a few weeks if this blows up in our face. When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us.

The isolationist types might have a different view if an Iranian nuke blew up in their faces.

Israel is Little Satan. We are Great Satan. They hate us even more than they hate Israel. Saying Iran having a nuke doesn't affect us is ludicrous. The leading state sponsor of terror in the world with nukes affects the entire world.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (PQWix)

326 Absolutely. But there are repercussions to overthrowing governments and installing brutal dictators.

A lesson the US and our retarded European allies seem incapable of learning.

Or if youre a cynical type you might think they know exactly what theyre doing and its by design to keep the money flowing to the military industrial complex / deep state.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (zuAlv)

Biggest problem with the Shah was he wasn't brutal enough to the mullahs and ayatollahs. He should have scragged every damned one of them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (0PL/v)

327 Trump would not be tweeting all of this if he wasn't already in the process of revving up the Bunker Busters.

Get ready for some seismic shocks. Both physically and politically.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)

328 At least be honest enough to say you're willing to see if this leads to either peace through strength, or ground troops in Iran.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (E0p3T)

My hair is not on fire because of trumps statements. I agree that this could all work out.

What is pissing me off is people trying to gaslight Trump voters about what trumps own statements about endless wars meant.

Trump is on the edge of betraying a not insignificant number of his voters with his actions so far with Iran. To act like thats not the case and to insult anyone who says "wait a second this isnt what we sign up for" is insulting.

To say hey lets focus on the domestic issues that trump ran on instead of feeding the military industrial complex and get told that youre brain dead and antisemetic for holding those views is very dishonest and insulting.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (zuAlv)

329 316 I think this is something that had to be done (since the 80's probably), but also realize the following years I fear what is going to be done is wasted billions being sent to Iran to prop up a new regime.

If it was bomb it and forget it, I would be ok, but I think the chance of that is zero.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (rvwwT)

No need - they have incredible oil revenue, which up til now has all been wasted creating jihadi armies in Lebanon, Gaza, and Yemen. Just let it stay in Iran and they're rich.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (uWKK8)

330 288 I heard cruise missiles have been launched now by US ships. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (n+rGF)

Where? is this posted? I don't need a link like I am a shrill harpie, as I am capable of looking. Thanks.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (6PCLE)

331 Posted by: JROD at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (IlL6s)

Then why have any dividing line between any foreign policy? I get your point, but it seems extremely short sighted.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (eZwyX)

332 >>They both start with T. Close enough!

T FOR TEXAS :

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=SY63KTMrkTM

Posted by: LYNYRD SKYNYRD at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (uZ2FS)

333 Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (mP0Kj)

Name a major conflict where that wasn't the case? Winning the peace after the war has always been more difficult than winning the war. Japan is probably the only place where that was the exception.

Admittedly I think muslim countries can be defeated in war but not in peace.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (VofaG)

334
BETTER THEN BURNOUT !!!!!!!!!

313 304 Trump's response to the Ragshead's demand for negation's ASAP is below...........

Gunter, Gleiben, Glauchen, Globen ................

Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (BltCC)

I got something to say...

Posted by: Blo Jiden at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (1sBXy)

335 Current events are shattering the illusion that their hot takes are representative or influential. This is why they’re so upset.

Konstantin is so smart…once again, right on point

His channel is Triggernometry, if anyone wants to check him out

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (PFbvp)

336 Do you cut the red wire first?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (P9gC0)
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Dunno. But I do know that the white zone is for loading and unloading only.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (6YdsJ)

337 "he wants to be known for ending wars rather than starting them"

We have been at war with Iran for 45 years. This is ending that war.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (gDhA9)

338 298 When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us.

Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)

1. Iran regularly calls for Death to America, the Great Satan
2. Iran has historically launched various terrorist attacks against the US and various other countries and supported military operations against the US
3. Officially they believe that a violent and explosive end to the world would usher in paradise
4. They've been working on longer distance delivery capability for a while

Iran getting a nuke is not very materially different from Al Qaeda getting a nuke. Perhaps they are modestly more restrained than Al Qaeda, but it's not clear that they are.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (okun6)

339 When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.

Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)

Then you are retarded. Their missile program will eventually build an ICBM. And they will launch at us.

Israel is doing the entire world a favor. Maybe you should try to appreciate that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (L5An7)

340 Code Pink/isolationist AoS posters hardest hit

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (2Rbgs)

341 Recent conflicts have all been various rounds of whack-a-mole with some gaggle of shitheads stirred up by Iran. Half the dicks our guys fought in Iraq after the Ba'athists fell were just Iranian stooges of one flavor or another.

Topple the Islamic Republic, and the Forever Wars not only end, they can't be started back up again by whatever piece of shit scumbags inevitably slither into office after Trump is gone.

Just because some sour-gash retard on CNN has her War Face on and her fake accent turned up to 11 doesn't mean it's Forever Wars o'clock again.

And if lobbing some missiles at a bunch of goatfuckers over the horizon in a town that no one who can read has ever heard of is enough to get everyone's garanimals in a trefoil knot over Neo Khans, then all I can say is let's just disband the military altogether, buy ourselves some Amazon's Choice prayer rugs, and get it the fuck over with.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (BcT2b)

342 Winning the peace after the war has always been more difficult than winning the war. Japan is probably the only place where that was the exception.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (VofaG)
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Yeah, all we had to do is invent a portable star. Easy!

Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (3BwY8)

343 >>>One MAJOR problem I have with US Policy, is that the Military goes out and wins the Fights, then the Politicians squander the Victory.... From Viet Nam on... it's been the Pattern, consistently.

Something ironic to consider is Vietnam was largely lost because the media turned against it. The same media slobbering over Ukraine can't easily pivot to being all anti-war. And even though they actually support Iran since it wants to tear down the US, they know they can't sell that to the plebes.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (Eng1Z)

344 339 When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.

Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)

Yet. You hate addled anti-Semite.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (2Rbgs)

345 292 Eff him and his screechy bogus laugh straight to H.e.l.l. - kalisto

Yes. That inane giggle, often expanding into a hysterical cackle. That always put me on my guard.

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (mADJX)

346 Also, propaganda like the kind used in WW2 was banned. Obama rescinded that propaganda ban, so if Trump wanted to do war propaganda, he could.

Keep Calm and Make Iran Miniskirt Friendly Again!

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (Eng1Z)

347 Iran getting a nuke is not very materially different from Al Qaeda getting a nuke. Perhaps they are modestly more restrained than Al Qaeda, but it's not clear that they are.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (okun6)

Good point.

And...they aren't more constrained, they just have a more complex leadership structure. Shit takes time to decide!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (L5An7)

348 I'd love to see a video of the B2s releasing their payloads over Fordnow. Then swooping away, banking off of the northeast wind nonchalantly.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (pMi6S)

349 ...The Gung ho types seemingly pumped about this conflict might change thier tunes in a few weeks if this blows up in our face. When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)

Israel has crippled the Iranian military, seriously damaged that nuclear program, and decapitated a large fraction of the individuals involved, in a matter of a few days, and you're worried about it blowing up in our face? Really?
"Iran having a nuclear bomb does not affect us."? Are you high?

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (hOOi9)

350 Didn't Carlson have a meltdown about Trump starting s world war with North Korea?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA

I forgot about that. That was what, two or three world wars ago?

Posted by: Josephistan at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (8Ee6S)

351 I saw Shrieking Harpies open for Orestes and the Maenads at the Theatron in Athens in 490 BC.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (6YdsJ)

352 Nood

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (ZOk/W)

353 I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown
_______

Jim Brown? Dirty Dozen?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (ITkJX)

354 Having been one of the boots on the ground when I was active duty I personally think we have spent way too many American lives in the middle east unless we go in loaded for bear and are allowed to *win*.

I am not against intervention in iran, they can't be allowed to become a nuclear power and they need to be stopped. I am against us sending troops with no plan for winning and no end game.

This crap of nation building we did in afghanistan and iraq should have showed us how wrong that strategy was. We need a WWII strategy, bomb the fvck out of them until they say uncle and then keep bombing them until the rubble bounces. We just spent 20 years in an endless forever war that gained us not one single thing except dead and maimed Americans.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (e5NfL)

355 Yeah, Iran cannot have the bomb and our own intelligence said they did not have it.

Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (fN+0V)

That is materially false.

Our own intelligence said they weren't "currently building a bomb," but that their enrichment capacity and efforts had no other outcome except a bomb.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (lHAAk)

356 But I think I see the disconnect here. Trump is not starting this war or "getting involved" in this war. The war pre-exists him, has for decades, and we have been "involved" -- usually on the wrong side -- for decades. Trump is trying to finally end this war.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (iFTx/)

And if thats how this plays out then I will breathe a huge sigh of relief.

That said I dont have the memory of a goldfish and remember how similar situations have played out all across the Middle East and Central Asia over the last 20-30 years so lets just say im not optimistic that this time will be any different.

Is that a fair take or does that make me a pussy and a fag and whatever else people here are claiming?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (zuAlv)

357 Got it from an anonymous source but so far can't pick it up anywhere else. Boulder of salt.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (n+rGF)

Thanks. We've shown restraint. However, I do believe in supporting Israel. I will support President Trump and to hell with the milksops who test the wind as I farht in your general direction.

I will shed no tears, angst, or irritable bowel issues if every eeslamic was wiped off the planet. Barbarians.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (6PCLE)

358 "When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us.
Posted by: Whirligiginator"

More than 10 miles from here.

Posted by: Banana Schlitz Guy at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (vFG9F)

359 327 Trump would not be tweeting all of this if he wasn't already in the process of revving up the Bunker Busters.

Get ready for some seismic shocks. Both physically and politically.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)

I'm sure some judge in Colorado will put an end to this craziness!!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (A5bjg)

360 333 Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (mP0Kj)

Name a major conflict where that wasn't the case? Winning the peace after the war has always been more difficult than winning the war. Japan is probably the only place where that was the exception.

Admittedly I think muslim countries can be defeated in war but not in peace.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (VofaG)

Oh... how about every ACTUAL War the US has fought?

Note, we have not been in an Actual War since WW2.

Posted by: Maverick at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (mP0Kj)

361 Biggest problem with the Shah was he wasn't brutal enough to the mullahs and ayatollahs. He should have scragged every damned one of them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (0PL/v)

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Similar to what we should have frankly done to the treasonous Commies here post-WWII to the current day ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (cnpI7)

362 The B-2 can perform attack missions at altitudes of up to 50,000 feet (15,000 m); it has an unrefueled range of more than 6,000 nautical miles (6,900 mi; 11,000 km) and can fly more than 10,000 nautical miles (12,000 mi; 19,000 km) with one midair refueling.

If these babies are up at 50K, then the last thing you will hear is the explosions..... Then Meet Allah !!!!

Posted by: Blo Jiden at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (q/j2W)

363 ...sour-gash retard...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (BcT2b)

Reason #45,916 why I love this place.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (L5An7)

364 Iran has been the world's leading group of absolute fuckbags killing and sponsoring the killing of American troops since the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, and following on with decades of manufacturing and teaching the manufacturing of IEDs that killed and maimed thousands over the course of the last 30 years.

I don't want to get involved any more than we have to in Iran, but if any group of fucksticks has it coming, it's the mullahs.

Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (3BwY8)

365
I worry though, that if any war started by Trump isn't ended during his term, it will never be. So let any wars he must start be swift, brutal, and short.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (Eng1Z)

IF Trump will mercilessly attack and leave for dead , politically , Miss Lindsey and his/her fellow War Pigs then Trump will likely be given a pass by his uber isolationist supporters --no matter what surgical aggressive action takes after cutting off Graham. South Carolina is going to have an R Senator regardless . Graham is dispensable and should be disposed of .... politically speaking.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (FCPbW)

366 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (zuAlv)

Heretic!

Sup man.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (eZwyX)

367 Here's a clue:

Iran believes it's on them to usher in the end of time, which precedes their messiah returning.

Now tell me again it's okay for Iran to have nukes.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (A5bjg)

368
I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)

Tanker trucks full of gasoline. Pull up next to the vents, stick the hose in and pump the trucks dry. Get as much fuel into the vents as you can put your hands on, then launch a thermobaric RPG round in the front door.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (y9nCu)

369 I don't know Servo, I think any new regime is going to need help in re-establishing control and I think we will be funding or participating in that. Like I said, this was a long time coming but I don't believe we'll be out of there any time soon. Yay! if I'm wrong.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (rvwwT)

370 I'm tired of reading "NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND!" and "No Nation-building!" When neither have even been hinted at by the administration.
Right now a lot of Trump's critics on the right are fighting against their own straw-men. It makes me think they see all this as a political issue for clicks rather than a real situation. And almost none of the people posting these WERE boot on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan, they've just found couple of slogans that work well with their followers.

Posted by: 29Victor at June 17, 2025 03:49 PM (j6Ika)

371 I'm sure Halliburton will rebuild Iran all nice and pretty when everyone is done bouncing the rubble.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:49 PM (A5bjg)

372
Tanker trucks full of gasoline. Pull up next to the vents, stick the hose in and pump the trucks dry. Get as much fuel into the vents as you can put your hands on, then launch a thermobaric RPG round in the front door.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (y9nCu)

Skunks!

Wait, hear me out!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (A5bjg)

373 Does this mean no more Gay Pride Day Parades in Iran for the rest of 2025 ????

Posted by: Allotta Fagina at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (1sBXy)

374 Posted by: 29Victor at June 17, 2025 03:49 PM (j6Ika)

What he said!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (L5An7)

375 Biggest problem with the Shah was he wasn't brutal enough to the mullahs and ayatollahs. He should have scragged every damned one of them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (0PL/v)

Correct...same with Tsar What's his name when he had all the commies locked up at one time or another in Russia and did not put a bullet through their heads. No Lenin, No Stalin, No Trotsky...the list goes on and on.

Posted by: Sands Of Time at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (/xbAD)

376 Are the Dems seriously unleashing Concern Trolls again, pretending to to criticize Trump (and his supporters) from the right flank -- as if that laughable strategy hasn't been tried and hasn't failed countless times before, because it's so easily detected and easily identified? Sheesh, get a new playbook, you bozos.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (pMi6S)

377 Sup man.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (

Heyo! Not much just living life. How are things going with you?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (zuAlv)

378
Tanker trucks full of gasoline. Pull up next to the vents, stick the hose in and pump the trucks dry. Get as much fuel into the vents as you can put your hands on, then launch a thermobaric RPG round in the front door.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (y9nCu)

And that's where me and a gunny sack of grenades come in. Git up offa that thing. HEH!

Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (OA79/)

379 Piggy-backing off CBD's post this AM, I think if Trump used our B-2's to drop a GBU-57 on Fordow... That doesn't have to be interpreted as our declaring war on Iran any more than Trump assassinating Soleimani. Or simply counter-bombing Houthi's without sending ground troops into Yemen. If it's for a clear and limited purpose that the general public would accept (preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon), I think he could do it without this going to WWIII etc.

Posted by: bearski at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (Bhsk7)

380 7 Trump would not be tweeting all of this if he wasn't already in the process of revving up the Bunker Busters.

Get ready for some seismic shocks. Both physically and politically.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)

IOW the forecast for Iran: cloudy with a chance of Glass.

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (FCPbW)

381 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (zuAlv)

The point of talking Trump's previous statements is that it's not a betrayal of his past positions. But if we're gonna talk betrayal, then hell, Trump is betraying ALL his voters if he signs thta asshole BBB bullshit.

The question is does it really matter? Trump is there to make America stronger and better and improve the conditions of the world that exists around it if at all possible, and most of all to stop the commies from bullshitting us all down the criminal hellhole drain. He is generally doing that and will continue to.

This idea of one thing being the end-all be-all, it's not. You had no other option in the end. None of us did. If putting Iran's nuclear ambitions upsets you so much because you or others think it only impacts *Israel*, then vote for Rand in 2028. He'll get stabbed by his commie neighbor then talk up the commies real good.

But if you think holding some red diaper fuckstain over our heads for "muh principuhls" which will involve us being in twenty more different things you and other principuhled people don't want America spending time and money on, go ahead. You will be playing yourself.

Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (E0p3T)

382 I also hope Bibi finishes off Hamas while everyone is looking the other way.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (UjdFS)

383 I also don't understand why Israel needs the excuse of Iran nukes to attack them.
Iran has been bombing and terrorizing Israel via its proxies for over 30 years. Israel has spent that time chopping off hydra heads - now that it has a chance to go straight for the body of the beast, why wouldn't it?

Posted by: 29Victor at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (j6Ika)

384 376 Are the Dems seriously unleashing Concern Trolls again, pretending to to criticize Trump (and his supporters) from the right flank -- as if that laughable strategy hasn't been tried and hasn't failed countless times before, because it's so easily detected and easily identified? Sheesh, get a new playbook, you bozos.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM

Yeah it's pretty much small dick energy.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (OA79/)

385 337 "he wants to be known for ending wars rather than starting them"

We have been at war with Iran for 45 years. This is ending that war.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (gDhA9)

Exactly. And he's not going to be putting "boots on the ground". The only people who will complain about it are the Globalists (which includes the Dems and RINOs) who have been trying to start WWIII for a long time.

You guys have heard of "The Sum of All Fears", right? You know Trump has been known to play Nessun Dorma at his rallies, right? You know what the connection to the movie is, right?

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (hOOi9)

386 Will the it's OK for Iran to have a nuke guy please explain why they wouldn't use it for a threat?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (DLqye)

387 Iran believes it's on them to usher in the end of time, which precedes their messiah returning.

Now tell me again it's okay for Iran to have nukes.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (A5bjg)

-------
Do you think some people won't believe this fact?
The true believers are nuts.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (PMtkd)

388 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (zuAlv)

The basic disconnect between you and many others here (including me) stems from a difference in starting assumptions.

Your starting assumption is that we are currently at peace with Iran and Trump is about to start a conflict.

My starting assumption is that we have been at war with Iran since 1979, and Trump is about to end the conflict.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (lHAAk)

389 382 I also hope Bibi finishes off Hamas while everyone is looking the other way.
Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (UjdFS

Exploding falafel!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (A5bjg)

390 339 - Then you are retarded. Their missile program will eventually build an ICBM. And they will launch at us. - CBD

True. I think it was James Burnham who said that it only takes one side to declare a war and define its stakes, or words to that effect. Just because it would be nuts for Iran to launch a missile at us doesn't mean they wouldn't do it, since it would make sense in their own twisted worldview. Just as there were Russians, both in the military and in the Communist Party, who thought that a nuclear war with the United states was winnable.

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (mADJX)

391 The feeds certainly look like we're going to join in.

If that's just Fordow and some key bunkers to start, and then see how it goes from there.

Because Trump has now demanded "unconditional surrender" from the Iranians.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (6ydKt)

392 337 "he wants to be known for ending wars rather than starting them"

We have been at war with Iran for 45 years. This is ending that war.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (gDhA9)

Exactly.

Posted by: 29Victor at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (j6Ika)

393 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (zuAlv)

Up and down my brother. Up and down.

Still blessed.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (eZwyX)

394 I think the IDF should use Psychological War on the Ragheads. I would broadcast Kami's Cackling 24 hours a day until their ears bleed.

No one can survive this for a week without losing it....

Posted by: Allotta Fagina at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (1sBXy)

395 osted by: Maverick at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (m

WW2 just turned into the Cold World War which included Korea and Vietnam. We never won the peace and NATO is still costing us billions.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (VofaG)

396 Up and down my brother. Up and down.

Still blessed.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (eZwyX)

Awesome. Good to see you around. Im migrating to the nood but probably will get back to work soon. Gotta pay those bills!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (zuAlv)

397 391 The feeds certainly look like we're going to join in.

If that's just Fordow and some key bunkers to start, and then see how it goes from there.

Because Trump has now demanded "unconditional surrender" from the Iranians.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (6ydKt)

I liked that qoute he had that we know where Khamenei is, and he's safe from attack, but it would sure be helpful if maybe he was somewhere else if you know what I mean fellas.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (OA79/)

398 Then you are retarded. Their missile program will eventually build an ICBM. And they will launch at us. - CBD
________

That's the least of my fears, as I would hope we could take out a lone ICBM and whatever decoys are sent with it.

It's the container ship and other options they'd have that scare me.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (ITkJX)

399
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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (NFX2v)

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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (NFX2v)

Canadistan -- It's only a matter of time.

Posted by: 29Victor at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (j6Ika)

401 364 Iran has been the world's leading group of absolute fuckbags killing and sponsoring the killing of American troops since the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, and following on with decades of manufacturing and teaching the manufacturing of IEDs that killed and maimed thousands over the course of the last 30 years. - ballistic

The failure to do absolutely anything to strike at Iran or hold its government accountable, particularly over the manufacture of those IEDs that killed and maimed so many U.S. military personnel, is something that filled me with disgust at what appeared to be the fecklessness of George Bush in dealing with this particular threat. I am not a historian, and admit my knowledge of his war policy in this regard is slim, so if I am off base, feel free to correct me. I would actually welcome any insights that prove that I am judging Bush unfairly in this matter.

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (mADJX)

402 ThunderB🇺🇸🇮🇱
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America's turban.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (ITkJX)

403 Renegotiating the tariff rates instead of arresting the SC politicians, starting with Calhoun, advocating for nullification was him folding.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

A shooting war in 1830 would have been much harder for the North to win. Railroads and immigration helped the North far more than the South. Also the Minie rifle made battles less decisive and more bloody. Also favoring the North since the South initially had better leadership.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)

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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (NFX2v)

Please no.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (OA79/)

405 At no time has Iranian Mullah's been more easily destroyed. Air defense down. All their terrorist proxies are dead or on life lines. Israel is doing all the heavy lifting. It's now or never.

Knocking out Iran now makes more sense than going into Iraq ever did.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (IifOV)

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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (NFX2v)

Please dont let them loot the Iranian treasury on the way out and live the life of luxury as full Professors at a Canadian university.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (OA79/)

407
I'd also like to remind everyone this is all because of Jimmy Carter that we are having this problem 45 years later. That SOB made the Shah of Iran capitulate to the Mullahs and here we are today.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (IifOV)

408 I can't imagine the extreme hate that Bush would endure from some on the Right here in 2005/2006 if he would have expanded the war to include Iran.

Not saying though it shouldn't have been done. At least an aerial strike.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (VofaG)

409 Will the it's OK for Iran to have a nuke guy please explain why they wouldn't use it for a threat?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (DLqye)

A threat would be one thing. The danger is that they might just fire it to kill people for the hell of it.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:04 PM (8avO+)

410 310 If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)

I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)

/Nods
Posted by: Maverick at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (mP0Kj)

ehhh ... about that ...

Posted by: Zombie Red Leader at June 17, 2025 04:04 PM (TTAGa)

411 Oldcat , exactly.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (DLqye)

412 Exploding falafel!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (A5bjg)

Falafel has had that effect on me.

With all the nuke scientists gone I am guessing whoever is left in Iran is not equipped to do much more than herd goats and his harem. As it should be. Bring back mini skirts and booze and all will be well, inshallah.

Bastards! I hate them all! I do tend to lump them all into one falafel of rock worshipers. While realizing, at the same time, there is a smattering of Christians and good people there who are stuck with the terrorists and don't want to live like this.

I am not as heartless as I try to be.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (6PCLE)

413 403 A shooting war in 1830 would have been much harder for the North to win. Railroads and immigration helped the North far more than the South. Also the Minie rifle made battles less decisive and more bloody. Also favoring the North since the South initially had better leadership.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)

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I don't think SC would have gotten nearly as much support in 1830 as it did in 1860, especially if the response was just arresting Calhoun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

414 Netanyahu is of the synagogue of Satan. Every war he demands in congress ends with the mass slaughter of Christians. He is no more “God’s chosen” than Henrik Yagoda or Vladimir Lenin was before him.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (TGPs7)

Wait, which Christians are being slaughtered because of Netanyahu? Where?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (Mxf84)

Many were recently killed in Syria, after the faction backed by Turkey toppled the government there and Russia and Iran were pulled out.

Making the collapse of the House of Cards set up in the wake of Hillary's meddling in Syria Netanyahu's fault is laughable.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (8avO+)

415 I don't think SC would have gotten nearly as much support in 1830 as it did in 1860, especially if the response was just arresting Calhoun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

Slave states are slave states. Lincoln had a lot of confidence in the power of the opposition in the South and it was all misplaced.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (8avO+)

416 415
Slave states are slave states. Lincoln had a lot of confidence in the power of the opposition in the South and it was all misplaced.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (8avO+)

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The nullification crisis was about tariff rates, not slavery.

And Calhoun was an ass that seemingly few people actually liked.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

417 Israel has a nuke, Would Israel ever use it? Of course not, Iran would have a nuke so no regime change and other foreign military escapades against it. That's the main reason the US and Israel don't want Iran to get the bomb. Israel is small enough where you don't even need a nuke. If Iran was hell bent on getting rid of Israel they could do it without a nuke but they don't. The fact Israel started this attack amidst negotiations is pathetic, it is not a heroic or honorable act in the face of aggression. They obviously, don't need American military support if they were brazen enough to go through with it

Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (fN+0V)

418 The nullification crisis was about tariff rates, not slavery.

And Calhoun was an ass that seemingly few people actually liked.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

Everything in the 1820-60 period was about slavery in the end with a few exceptions. SC wanted the ability to block the development of the Northwest because they didn't give a shit about the United States, just their section. They were seeing the end of the amount of Territory they could expand into that was good for cotton slave agriculture. They were starting to eye Texas as a new slave expansion area.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:16 PM (8avO+)

419 The fact Israel started this attack amidst negotiations is pathetic, it is not a heroic or honorable act in the face of aggression. They obviously, don't need American military support if they were brazen enough to go through with it
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (fN+0V)

The negotiations ended after 60 days, as Trump always told them. Israel prepped its action during that period, and set it off after Iran delayed past the deadline.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:18 PM (8avO+)

420 "The fact Israel started this attack amidst negotiations is pathetic, it is not a heroic or honorable act in the face of aggression. They obviously, don't need American military support if they were brazen enough to go through with it
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (fN+0V)"

They didn't start it. It was started by Iran via its proxy forces (Hams, Hez) on October 7. This is just a battle in the ongoing war, hopefully the last. Negotiations were given 60 days, then you don't fight nice if you want to win. This is something the US needs to relearn. You do not provide warnings - you strike fast, ruthlessly and relentlessly and you do not stop when you enemy is routed. Most military gains occur during the rout.

Posted by: Brian at June 17, 2025 04:54 PM (iK8a4)

421 Fordow simply needs isolating--NOTHING in or out, no power supply etc. and then forget about it.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 17, 2025 05:02 PM (hKoQL)

422 I need another entry in the "I Come in Peace" cinematic universe. Get Dolph Lundgren out of the mothballs and on that screen again.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (V362x)

423 Oh, there have also been calls to excommunicate Mike Lee from his religion because of one clever but crass tweet. So it's gotten really heated.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 07:25 PM (Eng1Z)

424 Israel is asking for US help after all. Its all 'Israel is tough, super tough', but now comes the predictable 'help us Obi USA, you're our only hope'.

Other day, one of the posts had a line about how Iran was a threat to Egypt, to Saudi Arabia, and to France. It almost provoked me to smile. So? If Iran hits SA or France, why do I care?

You're gleeful to talk smack about hyper isolationists, but this is Team America WP on PEDs. France can defend themselves, and if they can't then they need a wake up call. Ask yourself a simple question: would it have been better to be isolationist or spend twenty years in Iraq trying to educate them how toilet bowls are high art at a cost of a trillion dollars we could have spent at home?

Also, ask yourself what is the likelihood that the CIA and or the Mossad in conjunction would do a false flag attack in America to try to drag us into war? See, Operation Gladius and the USS Liberty.

Again, the US should stay out of it. People in the US are past bone tired of war. Likely the next US President is going to run as even more strongly against war than Trump.

Posted by: Eric2 at June 17, 2025 10:29 PM (q7Vou)

FBI Finally Delivers Documents to Congress Alleging a Plot by the Chinese Communist Party to Give Fake IDs to Illegal Aliens to Vote Against Trump in 2020

FBI Director Kash Patel
@FBIDirectorKash

The FBI has located documents which detail alarming allegations related to the 2020 U.S. election, including allegations of interference by the CCP.
I have immediately declassified the material and turned the documents over to the Chairman Grassley for further review.

Evidence mounts that the thing that definitely didn't happen definitely did happen.

China "fortified" the election.

These are just allegations, to be fair.

But crucially: Wray claimed that he knew of no plots to interfere with the 2020 election and did not provide these documents to Congress despite Chuck Grassley demanding them.

FBI Director Kash Patel on Monday evening turned over to Congress an intelligence report raising concerns that China had mass-produced fake U.S. driver's licenses to carry out a scheme to hijack the 2020 election with fake mail-in ballots for Democrat Joe Biden.
The newly declassified intelligence reports from August 2020 weren't corroborated or fully investigated and instead were recalled from intelligence agencies at about the time that then-FBI Director Chris Wray testified there were no known plots of foreign interference ahead of the 2020 election in which Biden defeated Donald Trump, officials told Just the News.
The new documents were turned over to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who had first raised concerns to the bureau that the intelligence hadn't been fully vetted, and instead was just dismissed even though there was evidence of the fake licenses.
"Thanks to the oversight work and partnership of Chairman Grassley, the FBI continues to provide unprecedented transparency at the people's Bureau," Patel told Just the News in a statement. "To that end, we have located documents Chairman Grassley requested, which detail alarming allegations related to the 2020 U.S. election.
"Specifically, these include allegations of plans from the CCP to manufacture fake driver's licenses and ship them into the United States for the purpose of facilitating fraudulent mail-in ballots -- allegations which, while substantiated, were abruptly recalled and never disclosed to the public," Patel also said.

So Patel says the allegations are also "substantiated." I take this to mean there is some evidence to support them, but not enough to definitely prove them. (Or else he'd use the word "prove.")

And Wray decided that he would once again weaponize the FBI to work as the Armed Division of the DNC and so he lied and obstructed Congress from seeing these documents, despite Congress' oversight role over the FBI, and despite Congress' right to see documents to assist it in making legislation.

Hi @MSNBC, when will you retract this and issue Trump an apology? https://t.co/QUF8qKiwRY pic.twitter.com/t3aQuKE2qe
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) June 17, 2025

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1 !

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (UjdFS)

2 Christopher Wray needs to be forgotten in a cell in a Gitmo dungeon.

Posted by: Advo at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (jO4mz)

3 There was a nood in the previous thread but it was sort of cryptic.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (/y8xj)

4 BOOBS!

Posted by: Polka will never die at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (NZ3mj)

5 Corgis called

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (0iJw5)

6 There was ballot stuffing, but what about the voting machines?

Posted by: Ann at June 17, 2025 01:35 PM (4neFu)

7 Even the Chinese didn't think Atlanta could get away with pushing out election observers and ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall on camera.

They overestimated us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

8 Nothing to see here.

Posted by: Sum Ting Not Wong at June 17, 2025 01:35 PM (ewjUl)

9 Not to worry, though, the FBI totally stopped them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 01:36 PM (ExV1e)

10 Did the Chinese Communist Party do this, or the Democratic arty machine in blue states?

Of wait, it was both. No difference between them anyway.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 01:36 PM (pMi6S)

11 It isn't like the former fib director buried this for four years or anything like that.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 01:36 PM (e5NfL)

12 arty = Party.

Get drunk with Cezanne!

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 01:37 PM (pMi6S)

13 Leave China Alone!

Posted by: Tim Walz at June 17, 2025 01:37 PM (ewjUl)

14 contempt of congress? referral to doj? warrants? arrests? plea deals? jail time? dinner parties? money laundering? all the above?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 17, 2025 01:37 PM (QSrLX)

15 Christopher Wray needs to be forgotten in a cell in a Gitmo dungeon.
Posted by: Advo at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM

Did Auto Pen pardon him on the way to Shady Acres?

Posted by: Tim Walz at June 17, 2025 01:38 PM (ewjUl)

16 2020: Remember, there is no fraud in American elections at all. Well, ok, maybe isolated ones, but no need to investigate to see if there are more. Why? Because this is America and we have to trust our elections. We know that fraud has never had any effect whatsoever on our elections

2024: TRUMP STOLE THE ELECTION

Posted by: The left at June 17, 2025 01:38 PM (t0Rmr)

17 Oh wow. I expect the criminal media to ignore this.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 01:39 PM (jM63s)

18 Heh... he wasn't called Beijing Biden for nothing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 01:39 PM (Q4IgG)

19 16 2020: Remember, there is no fraud in American elections at all. Well, ok, maybe isolated ones, but no need to investigate to see if there are more. Why? Because this is America and we have to trust our elections. We know that fraud has never had any effect whatsoever on our elections

2024: TRUMP STOLE THE ELECTION

Posted by: The left at June 17, 2025 01:38 PM (t0Rmr)

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False.

2020: There was no fraud at all. Not one illegal vote. Not anywhere. Anyone who even implies that election machines can be connected to the internet at all is spreading Russian disinformation.

2024: Elon Musk changed vote totals with Starlink satellites.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

20 Colorado Front Range morons should be heads up for severe weather today

https://tinyurl.com/4tj6vf75

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:40 PM (AOsQT)

21 It's not lying when you have a plane to catch.

Posted by: C. Wray, Top. Man. at June 17, 2025 01:40 PM (Vb7TB)

22 MSNBC is full of shit??!??

SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 17, 2025 01:40 PM (wtvvX)

23 Christopher Wray was recommended as I recall by New Jersey's own Mr Creosote, Chris Christie. Give that fat bastard an after dinner mint

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 01:40 PM (akw+7)

24 Suplize !

Posted by: China at June 17, 2025 01:40 PM (VE6XX)

25 >>> 16 2020: Remember, there is no fraud in American elections at all. Well, ok, maybe isolated ones, but no need to investigate to see if there are more. Why? Because this is America and we have to trust our elections. We know that fraud has never had any effect whatsoever on our elections

2024: TRUMP STOLE THE ELECTION

Posted by: The left at June 17, 2025 01:38 PM (t0Rmr)

Elon Musk hacked the election machines with his Starlink satellites, which apparently are equipped with Jooish space lasers and shit.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 01:40 PM (ULPxl)

26 B61-12?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (P9gC0)

27 Christopher Wray was recommended as I recall by New Jersey's own Mr Creosote, Chris Christie. Give that fat bastard an after dinner mint
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 01:40 PM

It's wafer thin.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (jc0TO)

28 Gee, you'd think the FIB was corrupt or something under Auto Le'Pen.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (ewjUl)

29 Covered in his own bodily fluids. Although the bodily fluids of other people would be okay as well.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (jM63s)

30 I wish the FBI would tell us something that we haven't known since 2020. It was always there right in front of everyone.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (g8Ew8)

31 China is asshole!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (L/fGl)

32 When do we bring back “fake but accurate”?

Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (FPsm2)

33 US Trump.

Let's see if I have this right: Biden stole the 2020 election. Dang. Sort of makes you wonder if anything said about Trump isn't a lie. If the D's swiped the 2024...I shudder to think about that.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (m7pre)

34 tanker on fire

https://x.com/israelnewspulse/status/
1934979906510663984

that looks like a missile strike

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (AOsQT)

35 Two years later Biden (more specifically, Biden's advisory staff) is letting Chinese spy balloons float over the country recording infrastructure and military bases while refusing to take them down.

I'm sure there is no relation.

Posted by: Orson at June 17, 2025 01:42 PM (dIske)

36 28 Gee, you'd think the FIB was corrupt or something under Auto Le'Pen.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (ewjUl)

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The FBI is filled with lawful neutral types who will follow any order as long as it's framed as legal by their bosses.

It should be razed to the ground.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:42 PM (GBKbO)

37 >>> 20 Colorado Front Range morons should be heads up for severe weather today

https://tinyurl.com/4tj6vf75
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:40 PM (AOsQT)

Is it wrong to hope a tornado smashes the governor's residence and its adult (by age, anyway) occupants?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 01:42 PM (ULPxl)

38 24 Suplize !

Posted by: China at June 17, 2025 01:40 PM (VE6XX)

NOBODY EXPECTING CHINESE INQUISITION!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 17, 2025 01:42 PM (wtvvX)

39 Someone should punch Wray in the dick.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 01:42 PM (FPsm2)

40 Huh, it almost seems like the J6 committee should have looked into something like this.

Are you saying the J6 committee may not have been all that interested in the truth?

Where is my fainting couch!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 01:42 PM (tT6L1)

41 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 01:42 PM (vf0Uk)

42 I'm still waiting for them to capture the necromancer who raised 10 million dead Democrats from the grave to vote for Joe Biden.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 01:43 PM (4mmkh)

43 CHINESE COLLUSION!!!!!!

Now with REAL evidence.

Heads should roll. They won't.

Dems will continue to get away with crimes unscathed.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 01:43 PM (vf0Uk)

44 Check the results of the precincts in the shittiest blue shitties in America.

You'll see 100% of the votes for the Dem top line candidate. No votes for the Republican of course, or the libertarians, or the greens, or hell the free drugs parties. And higher turnout then you see in the 'burbs.

Meanwhile you'll see a significant portion of the population strung out on the street yelling at things that aren't there.

Believable right?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:43 PM (t0Rmr)

45 When I voted (in person) in 2020, I asked if the poll workers wanted to see my ID or some proof that I was who I said I was. They looked at me offended and almost angry -- "Of course not! That suppresses the vote! We're not fascists!" But I then asked how they could confirm that I really was myself, and not some random person claiming to be me. "We trust you."

I ended up voting, but with the impression that half the people around me were fentanyl addicts and illegal aliens who had all been paid $50 to verbally identify themselves as "Mabel McGillicuddy," aged 89, and vote straight Dem ticket. The whole exercise seems absurd and corrupt.

In other words: In most California precincts, you don't even need a fake ID. They just let you vote anyway, whoever you might be.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 01:43 PM (pMi6S)

46 Hah this isn't about the CCP to me. I expect them and every other adversary to do these type of covert operations.

The point is our most dangerous enemy, the domestic Left, once again assist these covert operations and cover for them.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 01:44 PM (VofaG)

47 33 US Trump.

Let's see if I have this right: Biden stole the 2020 election. Dang. Sort of makes you wonder if anything said about Trump isn't a lie. If the D's swiped the 2024...I shudder to think about that.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (m7pre)

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There is every reason to believe that the Democrats' ability to cheat in elections will continue to recede from the high watermark that was the 2022 midterms.

With illegals leaving, it greatly impacts the ability of outside groups to challenge vote registrations in key states. The RNC is operating from a position of strength with friends in the DOJ to go after malfeasance as it forms not months later. And...the fed grant infrastructure of funding for leftist groups that helped fortify elections seems to be in open collapse.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)

48 The newly declassified intelligence reports from August 2020 weren't corroborated or fully investigated and instead were recalled from intelligence agencies at about the time that then-FBI Director Chris Wray testified there were no known plots of foreign interference ahead of the 2020 election in which Biden defeated Donald Trump, officials told Just the News.

Try him.

Convict him.

Hang him.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 01:44 PM (vf0Uk)

49 >>> 42 I'm still waiting for them to capture the necromancer who raised 10 million dead Democrats from the grave to vote for Joe Biden.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 01:43 PM (4mmkh)

Owen Pitt killed him.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 01:44 PM (ULPxl)

50 tanker on fire

https://x.com/israelnewspulse/status/
1934979906510663984

that looks like a missile strike
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM

It's riding really high. Empty?

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 01:44 PM (jc0TO)

51 Fuggin chinamen.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 01:45 PM (jBXWv)

52 >>> 44 Check the results of the precincts in the shittiest blue shitties in America.

You'll see 100% of the votes for the Dem top line candidate. No votes for the Republican of course, or the libertarians, or the greens, or hell the free drugs parties. And higher turnout then you see in the 'burbs.

Meanwhile you'll see a significant portion of the population strung out on the street yelling at things that aren't there.

Believable right?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:43 PM (t0Rmr)

*scoffs*

Try 130%, slacker.

Posted by: Philadelphia and friends at June 17, 2025 01:45 PM (ULPxl)

53 45 In other words: In most California precincts, you don't even need a fake ID. They just let you vote anyway, whoever you might be.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 01:43 PM (pMi6S)

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Well, now that it's all mail in voting, you just fill out all 12 ballots the state sends to you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

54 34 tanker on fire

https://x.com/israelnewspulse/status/
1934979906510663984

that looks like a missile strike

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (AOsQT)

Suuuure does.

Funny, I thought Iran was furiously working back channels to get a cease-fire. Guess not!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 17, 2025 01:45 PM (wtvvX)

55 >>CHINESE COLLUSION!!!!!!

A Succulent Chinese Collusion.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 01:45 PM (uZ2FS)

56 Try him.

Convict him.

Hang him.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 01:44 PM (vf0Uk)

I think hangings should be done in the public square.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 01:45 PM (jM63s)

57 Ace, this story is worthy of your attention too today

Blue-collar workers have seen real wage growth of almost two percent in the first five months of President Donald Trump’s second term, the largest increase for any administration in nearly 60 years.

The 1.7% pay bump is in stark contrast to negative growth under Joe Biden, according to new data from the US Department of the Treasury.

https://tinyurl.com/4dx8dtsy

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 01:45 PM (2pFHc)

58 Try him.

Convict him.

Hang him.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 01:44 PM (vf0Uk)
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Personally, I'd be okay with skipping steps 1 and 2. I mean, it's not like Wray cares about legal procedure anyway.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 01:46 PM (tT6L1)

59 Anybody remember the mysterious fire at the Houston Chinese consolate? I think that is the only reason Texas wasn't stolen too.

Posted by: Reforger at June 17, 2025 01:46 PM (LgDgc)

60 The damage seems to be well above the waterline.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 01:46 PM (P9gC0)

61 >>> 53 45 In other words: In most California precincts, you don't even need a fake ID. They just let you vote anyway, whoever you might be.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 01:43 PM (pMi6S)

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Well, now that it's all mail in voting, you just fill out all 12 ballots the state sends to you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Colorado at June 17, 2025 01:46 PM (ULPxl)

62 When I voted (in person) in 2020, I asked if the poll workers wanted to see my ID or some proof that I was who I said I was. They looked at me offended and almost angry -- "Of course not! That suppresses the vote! We're not fascists!" But I then asked how they could confirm that I really was myself, and not some random person claiming to be me. "We trust you."

At my last address I went to go vote. They asked who I was. I told them and they looked me up on a big book they had. Above my name was the guy that used to live there. I could have easily come back later and claimed to be him and no one would know...

And then at my current address they keep sending me mail in ballots for the guy that died in the house before I bought it. There is *nothing* stopping me from voting as him.

There was some polling recently where 20% of the participants said they had voted for someone else which matches with how easy it is to do.

I suspect we reached at least 20M fake votes in 2020...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:46 PM (t0Rmr)

63 unusual_whales @unusual_whales 50m
BREAKING: Trump is seriously considering joining the war on Iran and launching a strike against its nuclear facilities, per Axios

Dude (pharma arc) @Dude_Manski 46m Replying to @unusual_whales
@gork explain this like I’m gay

gork @gork 46m
Replying to @Dude_Manski @unusual_whales
oh sweetie it's just trump drama with iran strikes, think of it like a bad drag show plot

Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 01:46 PM (2yoRf)

64 DMV employees in the US have been selling licenses to illegals for ages.

There was a story out of FL yesterday where DMV employees were selling CDLs to illegals. Officials suspect over 1,000 were sold by these employees alone.

http://tiny.cc/w37n001

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 01:46 PM (lIio7)

65 >> Fuggin chinamen.

Uh...I think the correct term is Asian American, Dude.

Posted by: Walter K Sobcek at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM (uZ2FS)

66 39 Someone should punch Wray in the dick.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 01:42 PM (FPsm2)

JOKE'S ON YOU! I DON'T GOT ONE!!!

Posted by: DICKLESS WRAY at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM (wtvvX)

67 I'm skeptical that Cumswalla got 75M votes. Seems utterly implausible to me.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM (7aURE)

68 I think we all can agree there is nothing to see here.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM (tn3dm)

69 General Tso.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM (P9gC0)

70 63 unusual_whales @unusual_whales 50m
BREAKING: Trump is seriously considering joining the war on Iran and launching a strike against its nuclear facilities, per Axios

Dude (pharma arc) @Dude_Manski 46m Replying to @unusual_whales
@gork explain this like I’m gay

gork @gork 46m
Replying to @Dude_Manski @unusual_whales
oh sweetie it's just trump drama with iran strikes, think of it like a bad drag show plot
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2025 01:46 PM (2yoRf)

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This tweet seems to originate from while Trump is within the Situation Room.

So, either there's a leak or it's bullshit. I'm leaning towards bullshit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

71 Christopher Wray was recommended as I recall by New Jersey's own Mr Creosote, Chris Christie. Give that fat bastard an after dinner mint
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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I'm putting that one all on Trump. I distinctly recall all the warnings, even here on AOS, that Wray was a deep stater when his name was first floated.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM (ITkJX)

72 Democrats will find a Judge to stop.it.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (+qU29)

73 Has China penetrated the U.S. by orders of magnitude more than Mossad penetrated Iran?

https://tinyurl.com/48we3es9

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (Vb7TB)

74 Uh...I think the correct term is Asian American, Dude.
Posted by: Walter K Sobcek

Americans Experiencing Asianness

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (77rzZ)

75 There needs to be some kind of reckoning with Christopher "Duck Lips" Wray, who has figured on so many occasions in these incidents of lying, obfuscation and covering up. While I admit that marching at the head of a parade carrying his head on a pike down Pennsylvania Avenue is just an entertaining, but sinful, dream, I do smolder at the thought of this tool of the deep state facing no consequences whatsoever. At least he is gone from the halls of government for now, and we can hope he never returns.

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (mADJX)

76 69 General Tso.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM (P9gC0)

Eh, that guy… he’s a chicken…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (PCK5/)

77
Dumb question, but if Patel has declassified them, why can't we see them?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (wbZPZ)

78 Well.

It worked, didn't it?

Posted by: Harry Reid's Greatest Hits at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (uZ2FS)

79 67 I'm skeptical that Cumswalla got 75M votes. Seems utterly implausible to me.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM (7aURE)

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It's in line with Hillary's vote totals, at least.

Biden's numbers were a huge historical anomaly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

80 Demand paper ballots and single day voting!

Don't let OrangeManBad cheat again!!!!!

Posted by: do the meme at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (ULPxl)

81 General Tso.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM/i]

He's a blood thirsty devil but his chicken is so good.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (jc0TO)

82 Owen Pitt killed him.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

PUFF bounty must've been in the millions

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 17, 2025 01:49 PM (Splbu)

83 dammit

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 01:49 PM (jc0TO)

84 JOKE'S ON YOU! I DON'T GOT ONE!!!
Posted by: DICKLESS WRAY

*fistbump*

Posted by: David Hogg at June 17, 2025 01:49 PM (77rzZ)

85 This tweet seems to originate from while Trump is within the Situation Room.

So, either there's a leak or it's bullshit. I'm leaning towards bullshit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

If he's still in the Situation Room, I'd suggest Trump is 'seriously considering' a whole swath of possible actions to take/not take.

That's what one is supposed to do: consider the options, weigh them, choose one, execute.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 01:50 PM (lHAAk)

86 77
Dumb question, but if Patel has declassified them, why can't we see them?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (wbZPZ)

It’s all about standing, citizen..

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 01:50 PM (PCK5/)

87 No do the Democrats vote fraud

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 01:50 PM (+qU29)

88 Who else likes to shave their chest?

Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at June 17, 2025 01:50 PM (Vb7TB)

89 Fun fact: General Tso was a real guy, but no one knows why the dish is named after him.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 01:50 PM (77rzZ)

90
Biden's numbers were a huge historical anomaly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Yet the PTB yelled, loudly, "Nothing to see here, move along!"

Funny how that worked out.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 01:51 PM (tT6L1)

91 >>> 86 77
Dumb question, but if Patel has declassified them, why can't we see them?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (wbZPZ)

It’s all about standing, citizen..
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 01:50 PM (PCK5/)

Only EXPERT! Journalists like myself are allowed to see such important documents.

Posted by: Fredo Cuomo at June 17, 2025 01:51 PM (ULPxl)

92 Try him.

Convict him.

Hang him.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 01:44 PM (vf0Uk)

I think hangings should be done in the public square.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 01:45 PM (jM63s)

With all the necessary hanging for convictions of treason and insurrection possible,

the executions would look like a three mile long version of the climax to "Hang'Em High".

Maybe we could get Clint Eastwood to pull the handle!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2025 01:51 PM (iJfKG)

93 There is every reason to believe that the Democrats' ability to cheat in elections will continue to recede from the high watermark that was the 2022 midterms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu

I get your point and lean that way too. There does seem to be a fundamental change happening in the electorate but it seems the first few elections after Trump will clarify much. The Left is all fubar right now but that won't last. They got damn close to giving us a Marxist type government; the taste of that isn't something that will be easily forgotten.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 01:52 PM (m7pre)

94 Chynah may have produced the fake ids but I vet the Dems asked for them

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 17, 2025 01:52 PM (Splbu)

95 China "fortified" the election."

See, it was good that it happened. Geesh.

Posted by: Man at June 17, 2025 01:52 PM (tubbA)

96 China "fortified" the election."

See, it was good that it happened. Geesh.
Posted by: Man

Yeah, like Froot Loops were fortified with 8 essential vitamins and minerals.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 01:53 PM (77rzZ)

97 I think the midnight plumbing issues did more than this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 01:54 PM (CA3k/)

98 I think hangings should be done in the public square.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 01:45 PM (jM63s)

Do it like they do dunk tanks at fairs. Each player gets to throw a baseball at a target. Direct hit drops the trap.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 01:54 PM (KC35q)

99 93 I get your point and lean that way too. There does seem to be a fundamental change happening in the electorate but it seems the first few elections after Trump will clarify much. The Left is all fubar right now but that won't last. They got damn close to giving us a Marxist type government; the taste of that isn't something that will be easily forgotten.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 01:52 PM (m7pre)

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I think the modern era of Democrat cheating started in 2012.

It was a response to 2010. The Chicago machine was shocked at the loss, and they decided to never lose again.

So, they did just enough to get Obama over the finish line in 2012 including stealing FL (Broward County), MI (Detroit), and NV (Reid machine).

2016 proved that the American people could overcome it, and they fucking panicked to the point where, 4 years later, they shut down the economy of the western world and barely beat Trump in the electoral college.

So, essentially, the pendulum of politics has been trying to swing back for more than a decade. When you hold a pendulum back for too long, it swings further.

This is why we're okay with deporting Maria.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

100 Kaboom!!!! was fortified too…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 01:54 PM (PCK5/)

101

That Wray guy is something else.

Lies with no issue at all. That homo Comey at least looked like he was having a heart attack when he was lying in front of millions of people.

Posted by: E Buzz at June 17, 2025 01:55 PM (z2hJm)

102 So China works in conjunction with our government to both launch Covid and rig the 2020 election.

And yet, we can't cut them off because they essentially dominate our economy.

Not an ideal setup, if you ask me.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2025 01:55 PM (KbCG3)

103 I'm now largely convinced that outside of deep blue shitholes, no democrat has won any election at any level without rampant cheating.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 01:55 PM (vf0Uk)

104 Chynah may have produced the fake ids but I vet the Dems asked for them
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 17, 2025 01:52 PM (Splbu)
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I figured the cheat cost millions and the money had to come from somewhere. Though, I suspect NGO's were also part of the vote fraud scheme. Which means we financed the cheat with our tax dollars.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 01:56 PM (tT6L1)

105 so we can expect Wray to be dragged up to Capitol Hill shortly then ?

Posted by: Big Star at June 17, 2025 01:56 PM (Modkf)

106 102 So China works in conjunction with our government to both launch Covid and rig the 2020 election.

And yet, we can't cut them off because they essentially dominate our economy.

Not an ideal setup, if you ask me.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2025 01:55 PM (KbCG3)

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It's more like we dominate theirs as the primary recipient of their exports.

We can take some time to find replacements for electronics and medical stuff, but they can't take time to find replacements for our dollars.

The EU doesn't want their cheap shit, and no one else is nearly rich enough to buy as much as we do.

They're so desperate for our dollars that they celebrate tariffs falling to 55% when they were 15% pre-Trump 2.0.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)

107 Democrats will find a Judge to stop.it.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 01:48 PM (+qU29)

Let's ask Christopher Judge, AKA Teal'c.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 01:57 PM (S/Y4j)

108 105 so we can expect Wray to be dragged up to Capitol Hill shortly then ?
Posted by: Big Star at June 17, 2025 01:56 PM (Modkf)

Why ? So Jim Jordan can roll his sleeves up ?

Posted by: China at June 17, 2025 01:57 PM (VE6XX)

109 > Has China penetrated the U.S. by orders of magnitude more than Mossad penetrated Iran?

I don't know if it's orders of magnitude more, but they've penetrated the US far more than most people know.

People know about the farms. China has also been buying influence at Universities and sending agents as students and even professors.

Their hacking is constant and everywhere.

Salt Typhoon is pretty incredible. They completely coopted the Telco's "legal wiretap" infrastructure and have used it to wiretap the entire country. They're so deeply embedded in the Telco system we'd have to tear the whole thing down to get them out.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 01:57 PM (lIio7)

110 So if we have proof of China generating fake votes I assume we also know who they were for and what candidates they collaborated with right?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:57 PM (t0Rmr)

111
In most California precincts, you don't even need a fake ID. They just let you vote anyway, whoever you might be.
Posted by: zombie

================

The irony is, they don't need to do it in California. Voters here are that brainwashed.

But it's a good place to test to see if it can be done undetected.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 01:57 PM (wbZPZ)

112 Let's put Wray where he belongs.
If we can't muster it up then
put him in a dungeon.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 01:57 PM (Ffc+8)

113 I remain convinced that Trump only managed to "win" the 2024 election because he actually got about 70%-75% of the vote, which was enough to overcome the Dems outrageous and mind-boggling volume of election fraud. And that the Dems were absolutely confident that there's no way he could ever get that much, so they truly felt they had victory (that is, fraudulent victory) in the bag. And that to this day they are stunned, shocked, on their back heels, dizzy with clue-bat trauma, that he managed to win to the extent that he did. They thought he had zero chance against their wholesale-level massive cheating apparatus.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 01:57 PM (pMi6S)

114 so we can expect Wray to be dragged up to Capitol Hill shortly then ?
Posted by: Big Star at June 17, 2025 01:56 PM (Modkf)

Can't on vacation. Go away. 'Batin! Locusts! There was an earthquake!

Posted by: Christopher Wray at June 17, 2025 01:58 PM (vf0Uk)

115 Chinese money has been fueling DC for how long???

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 01:58 PM (PCK5/)

116 This is not a boat accident

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:58 PM (AOsQT)

117
The irony is, they don't need to do it in California. Voters here are that brainwashed.

MA elected a Republican Senator to kill Obamacare when the fraud machine wasn't activated in time.

I can't imagine CA is much more leftwing...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:58 PM (t0Rmr)

118 Daddy, will you tell the commies to start buying my paintings again. For some reason, they just stopped.

Posted by: HUNTER at June 17, 2025 02:00 PM (R6Hhu)

119 I remain convinced that Trump only managed to "win" the 2024 election because he actually got about 70%-75% of the vote

Hillary, a better candidate, carrying the FIRST WOMAN banner, got 66M votes versus Harris's supposed 75M. It is had to believe that doesn't show at least 9M more fake votes in '24 vs in '16

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:00 PM (t0Rmr)

120 Unpossible!

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at June 17, 2025 02:01 PM (VkY89)

121 I have noticed that politicians, when bought, tend to stay bought… there must be other leverages on them too…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 02:01 PM (PCK5/)

122
This is why we're okay with deporting Maria.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, that and Maria decided to bring in her sister, Consuala and her 12 kids and demanded to be able to collect welfare and proclaim their right, loudly, to be here.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:01 PM (tT6L1)

123 tanker on fire

https://x.com/israelnewspulse/status/
1934979906510663984

that looks like a missile strike
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM

Although not shown in the video, I saw earlier where there were two, in close proximity, with speculation of a collision.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:01 PM (ExV1e)

124
Can we reveal the truth that I actually won the 1960 Election?

Posted by: Richard Nixon at June 17, 2025 02:01 PM (IifOV)

125 There was significant discussion back in 2020-21 about how this ballot-stuffing operation had all the ... hallmarks of foreign backing.

Specifically, the mass requests and delivery of "voted" ballots exceeded the standard Dem fraud operation.
Beyond the capabilities of all but a government.

And, let's not forget the biggest tell:
Chinese markets, which open at 9pm Central time, all started tanking as Trump was in the lead enough to win the EC, and then--magically, for no fraudulent reason at all--6 different deep, deep blue cites in 4 different time zones all stopped counting.
At almost the exact same time.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 02:02 PM (G1EQj)

126
It's more like we dominate theirs as the primary recipient of their exports.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)

Not just Chyna. Every other piss-ant ingrate nation in the world need the US a hell of a lot more than we need them. The Golden Scalp Weasel is reminding them of this fact, and the arrogant shit-heads are squirming in their chairs as a result.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 02:02 PM (y9nCu)

127 124
Can we reveal the truth that I actually won the 1960 Election?
Posted by: Richard Nixon at June 17, 2025 02:01 PM (IifOV)

====

Hell, even leftists will admit that IL was stolen in 1960 at this point.

It's a plot point in The Irishman.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

128 114 so we can expect Wray to be dragged up to Capitol Hill shortly then ?
Posted by: Big Star at June 17, 2025 01:56 PM (Modkf)

Can't on vacation. ...
Posted by: Christopher Wray
--------------------

Hope your plane doesn't crash.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:02 PM (Ffc+8)

129 Can we reveal the truth that I actually won the 1960 Election?
Posted by: Richard Nixon

Shhhh...
-- Herbert Hoover

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 02:02 PM (77rzZ)

130 so we can expect Wray to be dragged up to Capitol Hill shortly then ?
Posted by: Big Star at June 17, 2025 01:56 PM (Modkf)

Wray knows too much. Expect him to be overcome with remorse and to throw himself off his 12th story hotel balcony any day now.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 02:02 PM (4mmkh)

131
Well, that and Maria decided to bring in her sister, Consuala and her 12 kids and demanded to be able to collect welfare and proclaim their right, loudly, to be here.

The FNM is now telling me we need illegals to pick the crops, but there are only about 1M farmhand jobs. Even if they are ALL illegals what are the other 20-40M illegals doing for income? And to answer...it rhymes with Del Flair

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:02 PM (t0Rmr)

132 There's nothing wrong with having some close, interpersonal relationships with the Chinese.

Posted by: Mitch M., and Eric S. at June 17, 2025 02:03 PM (Vb7TB)

133 They thought he had zero chance against their wholesale-level massive cheating apparatus.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 01:57 PM (pMi6S)
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The RNC was keeping a close eye on things. However, it's also pretty obvious Baldwin in WI kept her seat due to cheating.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:04 PM (tT6L1)

134 117
The irony is, they don't need to do it in California. Voters here are that brainwashed.

MA elected a Republican Senator to kill Obamacare when the fraud machine wasn't activated in time.

I can't imagine CA is much more leftwing...
Posted by: 18-1

It';s very regionalized. "California" is not one homogenous state. Big cities and coastal areas are intensely blue. Central Valley, inland, rural and mountain areas are intensely red. Problem is, the blue areas have greater population, so they always sway they state-wide totals. But yeah, certain parts of CA are as left-wing as you can possibly get-- they put MA to shame. If you ran Chairman Mao and Che Guevara in parts of Berkeley and Oakland, they'd get 90% of the vote.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 02:04 PM (pMi6S)

135
Not just Chyna. Every other piss-ant ingrate nation in the world need the US a hell of a lot more than we need them. The Golden Scalp Weasel is reminding them of this fact, and the arrogant shit-heads are squirming in their chairs as a result.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 02:02 PM (y9nCu)
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Also, he is putting us in position to need them LESS.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:04 PM (Ffc+8)

136 Who else likes to shave their chest?
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at June 17, 2025 01:50 PM (Vb7TB)

Big Mike waxes.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:04 PM (ExV1e)

137 131 The FNM is now telling me we need illegals to pick the crops, but there are only about 1M farmhand jobs. Even if they are ALL illegals what are the other 20-40M illegals doing for income? And to answer...it rhymes with Del Flair
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:02 PM (t0Rmr)

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And we already have a migrant farm worker program.

It just requires that farmers provide housing in addition to base wages, which many farmers don't seem willing to pay.

Either use the migrant worker program on the books or lobby to change it so farmers don't have to pay for housing. Breaking the law because it's easier to pay less than minimum wage to an illegal instead of the capex on specialized picking machinery isn't a good excuse.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:04 PM (GBKbO)

138
I want a damned recount!

Posted by: Thomas E. Dewey at June 17, 2025 02:04 PM (IifOV)

139 Why is there an F5 in operation?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:05 PM (P9gC0)

140 So, how many people with the names Wi Tu Lo, Bang Den Ow, and Ho Lee Fuk voted?

Posted by: pookysgirl, remembering the meme at June 17, 2025 02:05 PM (Wt5PA)

141 So, do all the articles that added "without proof" re revised?

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 02:05 PM (gDhA9)

142
In most California precincts, you don't even need a fake ID. They just let you vote anyway, whoever you might be.
Posted by: zombie

When I lived in SoCal, I'd occasionally walk into my voting place and pull out my photo ID, which confused the hell out of the desiccated hippie rejects working the polls. They'd recoil from my driver's license like Dracula having a rosary shoved into his face.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 02:05 PM (y9nCu)

143 E Jean Carroll has less but convicted Trump.

Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2025 02:06 PM (KtOUo)

144 > Who else likes to shave their chest?
Posted by: David Hogg

Plucking your two chest hairs isn't shaving, Hogg-boy.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 02:06 PM (lIio7)

145 143 E Jean Carroll has less but convicted Trump.
Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2025 02:06 PM (KtOUo)

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Of slander, I believe. Not rape.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

146 tanker on fire

https://x.com/israelnewspulse/status/
1934979906510663984

that looks like a missile strike

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (AOsQT)

Another idiot who can't figure out how to hold the phone while shooting a video. GAH!!

Vertical video syndrome:
https://tinyurl.com/akcbzhsc

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 17, 2025 02:06 PM (5xuJ/)

147
Chris Wray has much to answer for, but he never will.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 02:07 PM (IifOV)

148 Hah I picture Trump in the Situation Room doing what the Iranians showed on their propaganda video only of course against them.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:07 PM (VofaG)

149
MA elected a Republican Senator to kill Obamacare when the fraud machine wasn't activated in time.

I can't imagine CA is much more leftwing...
Posted by: 18-1

===============

And then they "course-corrected" and elected Elizabeth Warren over Scott Brown 46-54.

I'll raise your Elizabeth Warren one Gavin Newsom recall attempt that actually yielded more votes in favor of him than the election that put him in the governor's mansion.

Oakland residents actually recalled Sheng Thao and Pam Price -- and then elected Barbara Lee.

No good news here.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:07 PM (wbZPZ)

150 The irony is that the Chinese inadvertently did us - and Trump - a favor, because he used the four year hiatus to reflect on how to do the things he's doing now. And to get pissed off, to boot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2025 02:08 PM (YqDXo)

151 > tanker on fire
--------
Supposedly, it was involved in a maritime incident with another vessel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4dWc9JD6Uo

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 02:08 PM (Q4IgG)

152 Remember:
Biden didn't "win" in 2020 by millions of ballots--it was 44,000 ballots in GA, WI and AZ.

All from late-counted ballots.

Which went overwhelmingly to Biden.

So yes, 100,000 fake IDs requesting ballots in those 3 states--all of which completely discarded all election integrity enforcement due to Covid, especially DL verification--was more than enough to swing the election.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 02:09 PM (G1EQj)

153
So, do all the articles that added "without proof" re revised?
Posted by: El Mariachi

==================

Probably not, because evidence does not necessarily constitute proof.

But any articles that added "without evidence" should be revised -- and, hence, won't be.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:09 PM (wbZPZ)

154 @manniefabian
8m
The Israeli Air Force carried out a wave of strikes against 12 Iranian missile storage and launch sites in Iran, the military says.

The IDF publishes footage showing the identification of Iranian preparations to launch ballistic missiles at Israel, and a strike on the site.

Another video shows a strike on an Iranian air defense system at one of the sites

Bomb sight clip: https://tinyurl.com/5h664r2x

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:09 PM (Ffc+8)

155 142
In most California precincts, you don't even need a fake ID. They just let you vote anyway, whoever you might be.
Posted by: zombie

When I lived in SoCal, I'd occasionally walk into my voting place and pull out my photo ID, which confused the hell out of the desiccated hippie rejects working the polls. They'd recoil from my driver's license like Dracula having a rosary shoved into his face.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

That was EXACTLY the reaction I got from my poll workers as well. When I started to reach for my ID, they gasped in horror and lunged for my arm to stop me.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 02:09 PM (pMi6S)

156 Oakland residents actually recalled Sheng Thao and Pam Price -- and then elected Barbara Lee.

No good news here.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:07 PM (wbZPZ)
______________

Omigod, another black female officeholder.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2025 02:09 PM (YqDXo)

157 Big cities and coastal areas are intensely blue.
Posted by: zombie

Didn't Orange County and the Simi Valley areas used to be pretty red? Did they turn?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 02:09 PM (77rzZ)

158 Now one of the 3 ships is a cargo ship. Possible colission.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:10 PM (P9gC0)

159 Chris Wray has much to answer for, but he never will.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 02:07 PM (IifOV)
---------------

He may not answer in this life, but, the next? Unless he repents, he won't like the ultimate judge.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:10 PM (tT6L1)

160 118 Daddy, will you tell the commies to start buying my paintings again. For some reason, they just stopped.
Posted by: HUNTER at June 17, 2025 02:00 PM (R6Hhu)

Speaking of the Bidens, guess who just had a fanboy moment with them recently?

https://is.gd/XdSI3O

Joe Biden Meets 'Reacher': Ex-President and Son Hunter Crash Season 4 Set; Star Alan Ritchson Praises 'Lovely' Family of 'Legends'

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 17, 2025 02:10 PM (kEaYg)

161 People need to swing.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 17, 2025 02:11 PM (tCi8l)

162 Eighty-one million votes Jack. Without ever leaving the basement.
How could anybody question that?

Posted by: Joe Brandon at June 17, 2025 02:11 PM (Lo97M)

163
Joe Biden Meets 'Reacher': Ex-President and Son Hunter Crash Season 4 Set; Star Alan Ritchson Praises 'Lovely' Family of 'Legends'
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 17, 2025 02:10 PM (kEaYg)

Oh barf

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 02:11 PM (VE6XX)

164
The irony is that the Chinese inadvertently did us - and Trump - a favor, because he used the four year hiatus to reflect on how to do the things he's doing now. And to get pissed off, to boot.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

=============

IKR??!! lol

We've been saying that for some time, but I haven't seen a lefty analysis yet that has admitted that killing Trumpolf the Grey got us Trumpolf the White.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:11 PM (wbZPZ)

165 My favorite question:

If vote fraud doesn't affect the outcome of elections, then why do so many people commit vote fraud?

Seems to indicate pretty strongly that they do, in fact, believe it affects the outcome.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 02:11 PM (G1EQj)

166
That was EXACTLY the reaction I got from my poll workers as well. When I started to reach for my ID, they gasped in horror and lunged for my arm to stop me.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 02:09 PM (pMi6S)

I'll admit, the first time it happened I was surprised. The next few times, I did it to amuse myself.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 02:12 PM (y9nCu)

167 Joe Biden Meets 'Reacher': Ex-President and Son Hunter Crash Season 4 Set; Star Alan Ritchson Praises 'Lovely' Family of 'Legends'

ugh in Philly of course, right

we are cursed

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:12 PM (Pv3Rg)

168 165 My favorite question:

If vote fraud doesn't affect the outcome of elections, then why do so many people commit vote fraud?

Seems to indicate pretty strongly that they do, in fact, believe it affects the outcome.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 02:11 PM (G1EQj)

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People cheat at elections to not affect the outcome.

It just makes sense.

It's science.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

169 If you believe the 2020 election was fair and Biden got 81 million votes, then you would have to think Kamala was cheated. For the rest of us, we could see she got close to what Obama got and Biden was an outlier.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 02:12 PM (AcTAo)

170 Biden got 35-40 million actual votes in 2020

I lean to the under on that

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:12 PM (Pv3Rg)

171 including allegations of interference by the CCP.

'Finding' such documents does not just implicate the CCP...

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 02:12 PM (9Niia)

172 Is there any context for the tankers burning in the strait?

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 02:13 PM (fV+MH)

173 For the rest of us, we could see she got close to what Obama got and Biden was an outlier.

which to me means, she ALSO cheated heavily

just not quite enough

no way on earth she tracks with Obama

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:13 PM (Pv3Rg)

174 171 including allegations of interference by the CCP.

'Finding' such documents does not just implicate the CCP...
Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 02:12 PM (9Niia)

======

"It was actually the CCCP! We must nuke Russia or I will demand impeachment!"
-Lindsey Graham

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

175 The last Dem candidate my leftist cow-workers got excited about with Obama. Yet somehow Biden and Harris both got more votes...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:13 PM (t0Rmr)

176 Chynah may have produced the fake ids but I vet the Dems asked for them
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 17, 2025 01:52 PM (Splbu)

--

I'm sure the distribution and usability details would've had to be coordinated for the scheme to work. (Specifically battleground states with VID requirements). Didn't Patel mention something about 20,000 fake IDs seized or was that another source? The addresses would be damning.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 02:13 PM (wzAuc)

177 157 Big cities and coastal areas are intensely blue.
Posted by: zombie

Didn't Orange County and the Simi Valley areas used to be pretty red? Did they turn?
Posted by: Bulg

Orange County is now in play because umpty-ump new illegal immigrants moving in.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 02:13 PM (pMi6S)

178 People need to swing.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

We agree!
-- Swinging couples everywhere

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 02:13 PM (77rzZ)

179 If you ran Chairman Mao and Che Guevara in parts of Berkeley and Oakland, they'd get 90% of the vote.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 02:04 PM (pMi6S)
_____________

Actually, for Oakland you'd be better off running Idi Amin.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2025 02:13 PM (YqDXo)

180 172 Is there any context for the tankers burning in the strait?

yeah two third world ship captains fucked up

it was like, Trinidad vs Ghana or something

just incompetence

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:14 PM (Pv3Rg)

181 Nothing will come of this. Nobody will be held accountable for anything and in two weeks nobody will even talk about it anymore.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at June 17, 2025 02:14 PM (V362x)

182 161 People need to swing.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at June 17, 2025 02:11 PM (tCi8l)

These Republicans in Congress, they do this already

Posted by: Paolo at June 17, 2025 02:14 PM (gKWVE)

183
Cue Mike Pence to go on CNN and say this was all WITHOUT EVIDENCE.

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 02:14 PM (j4U/Z)

184 Actually, for Oakland you'd be better off running Idi Amin.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2025 02:13 PM (YqDXo)

"Food deserts" represent a lack of imagination.

Posted by: Idi "Top Chef" Amin at June 17, 2025 02:15 PM (gKWVE)

185 from Insty/X

"Rumors that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, former president of Iran, has been successfully eliminated by the Mossad in the heart of Tehran. I’ve wanted him gone since I was a child. I hope he’s finally been sent to hell."

sssssssweet!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:15 PM (Pv3Rg)

186 over 90% nationwide turn out of registered voters in 2020.

they are going to have to throw more in than just the Brooklyn Bridge for me to buy that.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:15 PM (VofaG)

187 just not quite enough

no way on earth she tracks with Obama
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:13 PM (Pv3Rg)
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You know, that's a fair point. The Light Bringer was a new shiny object against a decrepit old white guy, so, naturally, he got a lot of votes.

Kamala, by comparison, not even 2 day old bread. Closer to a loaf of bread forgotten in the pantry for a couple of months.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:15 PM (tT6L1)

188

We agree!
-- Swinging couples everywhere

Farcebook gave me some video of a "happy swinging couple" and it was like a stupid FNM sitcom but with swingers but they claimed it was real.

I blocked that particular creator and then a month or two later I saw the same actress now making ads for some leftwing t-shirt company.

Everything the left does is fake, gay, and lame.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:16 PM (t0Rmr)

189 Another gem I appreciate from 2020:

The statute of limitations on stealing a Presidential Election is 3 months.

Of all the crimes in the world, the one crime that impacts millions of lives is ... 3 months.

Watching the Supreme Court shit all over the floor, drop down, roll around in it, licking their fingers, while yelling "respect us" in that decision was amazing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 02:17 PM (G1EQj)

190 Fat whale oosik Bill Barr should be arrested immediately for treason.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:17 PM (/U5Yz)

191 Umm, guys... we are merely a contractor.

Posted by: The CCP at June 17, 2025 02:17 PM (uREkD)

192 20 Colorado Front Range morons should be heads up for severe weather today

It's raining men!

Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 02:17 PM (gKWVE)

193 update from the Dub C:

"Update on Kevin Krebs (Man arrested in West Chester over the weekend)
He is now back in police custody
He has now received additional charges after police found 7 pipe bombs in his home last night.
Those charges are as follows -
-- 13 counts of Weapons of Mass Destruction
-- 13 counts of Possession of an Instrument of Crime
-- One charge of Causing a Catastrophe
-- One count of recklessly endangering another person
Also as you can see in the docket below he bail has been denied this time.'

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:17 PM (Pv3Rg)

194 Another gem I appreciate from 2020:

The statute of limitations on stealing a Presidential Election is 3 months.

But we're still counting!

Posted by: California at June 17, 2025 02:18 PM (uREkD)

195
Omigod, another black female officeholder.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

==============

It's like Bruno. "Angelina has one, Madonna has one..."

But Black women will continue to line up to be the Democrats' exotic pets because there's money and power in it.

I'm bracing for San Diego's next mayor. Right now they have a 2-boxer (Latino and gay), and there's a Black female in line. Geneviéve Jones-Wright, remember that name. What Kamala couldn't do...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:18 PM (wbZPZ)

196 129 Can we reveal the truth that I actually won the 1960 Election?
Posted by: Richard Nixon

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Ok by me.

Posted by: Sam Tilden at June 17, 2025 02:18 PM (wzAuc)

197 We agree!
-- Swinging couples everywhere

I can understand a lot of things but I don't get swinging - or "open" relationships. Why would I put up with your shit if you're going to give up the goodies for anyone who tickles your fancy?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM (ExV1e)

198
Watching the Supreme Court shit all over the floor, drop down, roll around in it, licking their fingers, while yelling "respect us" in that decision was amazing.

I think the red states dropped the ball here. Yes they sued, but they should also have threatened to leave the union if the SC did not hear the case.

I guarantee the SC would have, and would have mandated another election based on all the fraud...and QUICKLY as well to make as little of the fraud as possible come out

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM (t0Rmr)

199 @Jerusalem_Post
5m
US sources tell the 'Post' that President Donald Trump will do what is needed regarding Iran. Israeli officials believe that the US will join the strikes if Iran doesn't agree to dismantle its nuclear program

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM (Ffc+8)

200 163
Joe Biden Meets 'Reacher': Ex-President and Son Hunter

Nice to see Hunter back from South Africa.

Noticed in the picture he and Richson are holding Joey up.

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 02:20 PM (j4U/Z)

201 199 @Jerusalem_Post
5m
US sources tell the 'Post' that President Donald Trump will do what is needed regarding Iran. Israeli officials believe that the US will join the strikes if Iran doesn't agree to dismantle its nuclear program
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM (Ffc+

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I interpret this as Trump is instituting a mandatory draft and is sending troop carriers to the Persian Gulf to start an invasion by the end of the day.

There's literally no other explanation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

202 I’ve seen a lot of confusion over the issue of “civilian nuclear power” and “uranium enrichment.” These are distinct issues. Iran could have civilian nuclear power without enrichment, but Iran rejected that. Meanwhile, they’ve enriched uranium far above the level necessary for any civilian purpose. - JD Vance 6/17/25

Buh Bye Tulsi

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:20 PM (/U5Yz)

203
Orange County is now in play because umpty-ump new illegal immigrants moving in.
Posted by: zombie

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Also ballot harvesting.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:20 PM (wbZPZ)

204 US sources tell the 'Post' that President Donald Trump will do what is needed regarding Iran. Israeli officials believe that the US will join the strikes if Iran doesn't agree to dismantle its nuclear program
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM

Dear Iran. You are now in the FO stage of this American phrase FAFO.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 02:20 PM (ewjUl)

205 The CCP would've only had to do mail-in ballot stuffing in the six deciding states or whatever it was.

They'd have had to set up several local operations to fill out the ballots and mail them, or have them bulk dropped in one of the boxes.

It could have been done but it would've taken a large group to do it.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 02:21 PM (6ydKt)

206 US will join the strikes if Iran doesn't agree to dismantle its nuclear program
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM (Ffc+

Uh,, And we can trust them how if they "agree" to dismantle the nuclear program ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 02:21 PM (VE6XX)

207 Colorado Front Range morons should be heads up for severe weather today

Yay! We are 90+ degrees from now until late October.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 02:21 PM (PfGa7)

208 I think the red states dropped the ball here. Yes they sued, but they should also have threatened to leave the union if the SC did not hear the case.

I guarantee the SC would have, and would have mandated another election based on all the fraud...and QUICKLY as well to make as little of the fraud as possible come out

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM (t0Rmr)

Nope. SCOTUS would have told us to get bent, and then either the Union dissolves (with all the fun that entails) or the bluff gets called.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 02:21 PM (lHAAk)

209 It's now time for all of these corrupt Stasi-wannabe faggots that were leading the FBI's HQ and DC field to get fitted for orange jumpsuits and leg irons.

Fuck these assholes in particular.

Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 02:21 PM (3BwY8)

210 I can understand a lot of things but I don't get swinging - or "open" relationships. Why would I put up with your shit if you're going to give up the goodies for anyone who tickles your fancy?

I don't get it either but going back to the Whatever podcast there are plenty of women willing to do so if the guy is rich enough. And looking at the polycules the FNM was enamored with apparently there are guys that will do so as well, and in there cases, because the alternative is...nothing.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:21 PM (t0Rmr)

211 I think the red states dropped the ball here. Yes they sued, but they should also have threatened to leave the union if the SC did not hear the case.

I'm trying but failing to see how this would have actually worked at the time

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

212 Watching the Supreme Court shit all over the floor, drop down, roll around in it, licking their fingers, while yelling "respect us" in that decision was amazing.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 02:17 PM (G1EQj)

1. We cannot do anything about the rules that state put in place for elections.
2. We cannot do anything about states not obeying the rules that they put in place for elections.
3. We cannot do anything while the vote is in progress.
4. We cannot do anything while the counting is in progress.
5. We cannot do anything once the counting is over.
6. No standing.

-- SCOTUS

- Here's an emergency injunction saying that the President can't President. -- also SCOTUS

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:22 PM (ExV1e)

213 Weapons inspectors?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:22 PM (P9gC0)

214 211 I think the red states dropped the ball here. Yes they sued, but they should also have threatened to leave the union if the SC did not hear the case.

I'm trying but failing to see how this would have actually worked at the time
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

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Might as well say that Texas should have sent the Rangers to arrest SCOTUS.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

215 Yes they sued, but they should also have threatened to leave the union if the SC did not hear the case.

I guarantee the SC would have, and would have mandated another election based on all the fraud...and QUICKLY as well to make as little of the fraud as possible come out
Posted by: 18-1
-----------------------

It didn't work out so well last time.
They are taking a different tact this time.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:22 PM (Ffc+8)

216 Buh Bye Tulsi

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:20 PM (/U5Yz)

Why?

Gabbard said it was the assessment of the intelligence community that "Iran is not currently building a nuclear weapon."

She also said: "Iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons."

All of that appears to be entirely accurate. Iran wasn't (and probably still isn't) 'currently building' a nuclear weapon. They very much were sprinting towards the capability to do so with every available resource, and every indicator is that they were trying to get to a place where they COULD be 'currently building' a nuclear weapon.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 02:22 PM (lHAAk)

217 Nope. SCOTUS would have told us to get bent, and then either the Union dissolves (with all the fun that entails) or the bluff gets called.

exactly and how would the union actually dissolve tho? what the states would stop sending taxes to the feds?

I honestly don't know how you do this now

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:22 PM (Pv3Rg)

218
I'm trying but failing to see how this would have actually worked at the time

The SC refused to take the case because there were no consequences to refusing to take the case.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:22 PM (t0Rmr)

219
Buh Bye Tulsi
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:20 PM (/U5Yz)
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What Tulsi actually said is quite different than the talking point pull quote being used against her.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:23 PM (tT6L1)

220 219 What Tulsi actually said is quite different than the talking point pull quote being used against her.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:23 PM (tT6L1)

=======

Righty media is as addicted to misleader click-baity bullshit headlines as CNN is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

221 The SC refused to take the case because there were no consequences to refusing to take the case.

yes, and?

use of force how?

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:24 PM (Pv3Rg)

222 osted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:17 PM (Pv3Rg)

Is that the gay Coast Guard guy?

I just assume gay.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:24 PM (VofaG)

223 yes, and?

use of force how?

Losing half the country is a consequence and one the people behind Biden wouldn't have wanted.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:24 PM (t0Rmr)

224 I interpret this as Trump is instituting a mandatory draft and is sending troop carriers to the Persian Gulf to start an invasion by the end of the day.

There's literally no other explanation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

Amazon just delivered a parachute to my house. Am I airborne now?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:24 PM (ExV1e)

225 exactly and how would the union actually dissolve tho? what the states would stop sending taxes to the feds?

I honestly don't know how you do this now
Posted by: Black Orchid

Secession would be a mess, in practical terms. Even moreso now than in 1861.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 02:24 PM (77rzZ)

226 Is that the gay Coast Guard guy?

um no? we had a weirdo get snagged during the no kings protest day in town here

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:25 PM (Pv3Rg)

227 exactly and how would the union actually dissolve tho? what the states would stop sending taxes to the feds?

I honestly don't know how you do this now
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:22 PM (Pv3Rg)

I agree - I don't think leaving the Union is really an option.

I'm merely pointing out to 18-1 that threatening to leave the Union doesn't really get you anywhere.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 02:25 PM (lHAAk)

228 I can understand a lot of things but I don't get swinging - or "open" relationships. Why would I put up with your shit if you're going to give up the goodies for anyone who tickles your fancy?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM (ExV1e)
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I also don't get it from a practical standpoint. Like, are we just going to head over to Bob and Sue's house, have a casual dinner, jump into a sweaty pile of flesh, then go home? Then I get to go fishing with Bob tomorrow like nothing happened?

Weird shit.

Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 02:25 PM (3BwY8)

229 224 Amazon just delivered a parachute to my house. Am I airborne now?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:24 PM (ExV1e)

======

Thankfully for you, those are reserved for USO performers doing stunt tricks from airplanes.

Real airborne get super secret gel cushions fired from guns as they land like in a science fiction movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

230 A Special Investigator should be appointed. Ya know, like me. I could use the dough.

Posted by: Bob Mueller, Former FBI Director And All But Forgotten at June 17, 2025 02:25 PM (/xbAD)

231 So Wray committed perjury yet again?

Posted by: Butch at June 17, 2025 02:25 PM (K5iRo)

232 Update on Kevin Krebs (Man arrested in West Chester over the weekend)

Be better, Malvern! Was he wearing false-flag khaki pants or was he a plain 'ol No-Kings-er?

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 02:26 PM (1XOgo)

233 Bill Barr says he told Trump there was no evidence of election fraud

https://tinyurl.com/y2dbhdnr

Arrest this fat f*cking slob.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:26 PM (/U5Yz)

234 I'm merely pointing out to 18-1 that threatening to leave the Union doesn't really get you anywhere.

I'm not talking about a threat, I'm talking about doing it.

Take the case and rule on it justly or these 20-ish states severe their membership in a union that no longer abides by a republican form of government.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:26 PM (t0Rmr)

235 Ian Ellis@ianellisjones . 20m

All U.S. Navy ships forward-deployed at NSA Bahrain leave port

At least 1x Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) and 4x Mine Countermeasure (MCM) ships, as well as special operations mothership M/V Ocean Trader, are underway in the U.S. Central Command AOR

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:26 PM (Ffc+8)

236 I don't get it either but going back to the Whatever podcast there are plenty of women willing to do so if the guy is rich enough. And looking at the polycules the FNM was enamored with apparently there are guys that will do so as well, and in there cases, because the alternative is...nothing.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:21 PM (t0Rmr)

I'd rather have nothing. Spouse determined celibacy sucks but no way in hell would I let them fuck someone else.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:27 PM (ExV1e)

237 I'm merely pointing out to 18-1 that threatening to leave the Union doesn't really get you anywhere.

yeah I get it

I'm literally thinking this thru now

there would have to be a pre-planned use of force to physically secure the states' borders, and some plan to stop revenue outflows

it would be a whole mess, maybe impossible

better to wait for the fedgov to implode

Im' also warming to the idea of packing the USSC

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:27 PM (Pv3Rg)

238 They'd have had to set up several local operations to fill out the ballots and mail them, or have them bulk dropped in one of the boxes.

It could have been done but it would've taken a large group to do it.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

It took 3000 Mules …

Posted by: Adriane the Permanently Temporary Critic . . . at June 17, 2025 02:27 PM (cfyxU)

239 @193 I read that Krebs brother said he was pro NoKings protest but that he feared being attacked by right wingers. If so thx propaganda ministries

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 02:27 PM (akw+7)

240 Amazon just delivered a parachute to my house. Am I airborne now?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:24 PM (ExV1e)

Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
He ain’t gonna jump no more

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 02:28 PM (6ydKt)

241 Arrest this fat f*cking slob.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

And invoke criminal asset forfeiture to confiscate his bagpipes.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 02:28 PM (77rzZ)

242 Yeah there's probably not a lot of conservatives in the Wife Swap Club.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 02:29 PM (fV+MH)

243 I can understand a lot of things but I don't get swinging - or "open" relationships. Why would I put up with your shit if you're going to give up the goodies for anyone who tickles your fancy?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM (ExV1e)
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I also don't get it from a practical standpoint. Like, are we just going to head over to Bob and Sue's house, have a casual dinner, jump into a sweaty pile of flesh, then go home? Then I get to go fishing with Bob tomorrow like nothing happened?

Weird shit.
Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 02:25 PM (3BwY

______

Happens more than people think. Swinging and open relationship isn't the same thing. Swinging is couple -- usually married -- who "swing" together, as in they seek out another couple and swap partners. An open relationship is basically a more casual couple that can do whatever they want with whoever. Basically a glorified FwB.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 02:29 PM (iFTx/)

244 A lot of this armament moving to the M.E. is to assure other entities they are correct in their assumption that it is best to stay out of this conflict.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:29 PM (Ffc+8)

245 Be better, Malvern! Was he wearing false-flag khaki pants or was he a plain 'ol No-Kings-er?

he looks like a degen

I mean swedesford rd calling where he lives malvern is generous

just kind out there living in a dump with his bro, being an electrician

the brother says he was super into No Kings and is heavily liberal. I think he signed up to be one of the "peacekeepers" but the WC cops saw him and didn't like the look of him lol

I know the one cop they keep showing personally so it cracks me up.. he's a damn hero! (no really he's a good guy, a paisan)

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:29 PM (Pv3Rg)

246 I also don't get it from a practical standpoint. Like, are we just going to head over to Bob and Sue's house, have a casual dinner, jump into a sweaty pile of flesh, then go home? Then I get to go fishing with Bob tomorrow like nothing happened?

Say, Bob, did you enjoy rogering my wife?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:29 PM (ExV1e)

247 I can understand a lot of things but I don't get swinging - or "open" relationships. Why would I put up with your shit if you're going to give up the goodies for anyone who tickles your fancy?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM (ExV1e)

--

Substance abuse.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 02:29 PM (wzAuc)

248 Is that the gay Coast Guard guy?

um no? we had a weirdo get snagged during the no kings protest day in town here
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:25 PM (Pv3Rg)

okay. They arrested a retired Coastie that threatened to assassinate Trump.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:29 PM (VofaG)

249 *civil asset forfeiture*

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 02:30 PM (77rzZ)

250 Wow. They managed to kill any desire I had to even give a new Reacher season a chance.

Can this asshole just die already?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 02:30 PM (zZu0s)

251 As another data point almost all male homosexual marriages are open.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:30 PM (t0Rmr)

252 Barr said there was no 'systemic' election fraud.

He said that to claim that there was no avoiding avoiding the law by insiders...said nothing about outside actors gaming the system.

Barr was another 👎 choice.

Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2025 02:30 PM (PuHKi)

253 around here - lol esp MALVERN - there is a lot of swinging

it's gross

I have lost respect for MANY PEOPLE

I guess just boredom? no idea

ew

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:30 PM (Pv3Rg)

254 It took 3000 Mules …

Posted by: Adriane the Permanently Temporary Critic . . . at June 17, 2025 02:27 PM (cfyxU)

--

It'd be very hard to hide.
If it had been investigated in 2020-21, the FBI would've found it.

But now who knows if they'll be able to find anything or anyone.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 02:31 PM (6ydKt)

255 I hope Jeff Sessions is resting comfortably in his retirement.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:31 PM (/U5Yz)

256 As we speak, the Islamic Iranian Navy is firing up he Evinrudes.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 17, 2025 02:31 PM (gm9Sb)

257 I guess we shall see how much of a hangover the military has from the last 4 years.

Hope not too much dick-stepping.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 02:31 PM (fV+MH)

258 239 @193 I read that Krebs brother said he was pro NoKings protest but that he feared being attacked by right wingers. If so thx propaganda ministries

did you see him?

something out of One Flew Over, honestly

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:31 PM (Pv3Rg)

259 Weird shit.
Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 02:25 PM (3BwY

Some people are weirdos.

Posted by: Billy Jeff The Rapist, Elected Twice at June 17, 2025 02:32 PM (/xbAD)

260 Take the case and rule on it justly or these 20-ish states severe their membership in a union that no longer abides by a republican form of government.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:26 PM (t0Rmr)

How? How do those 20-ish states sever their membership?

It's not just taxes. It's driver/marriage/gun licenses, federal land (all 50 states contain federal land), civil court proceedings, passports, customs, schools, et al.

It can't be done.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 02:32 PM (lHAAk)

261 Happens more than people think.

I don't doubt, I just don't get it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:32 PM (ExV1e)

262 We had a notorious "swinging couple" case in my former home town.

I can't remember if wife got tired of husband and had him offed by her swinger or if it was the other way around.

either way, the wife went to jail, as did the murderer.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:32 PM (tT6L1)

263 As another data point almost all male homosexual marriages are open.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:30 PM (t0Rmr)
____________

Correction: "marriages"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2025 02:32 PM (YqDXo)

264 Uh,, And we can trust them how if they "agree" to dismantle the nuclear program ?
Posted by: It's me donna
----------------------

Israel has carte blance movement in Iran.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:32 PM (Ffc+8)

265 3000 mules ... we need a whistleblower. Why isn't there a reward for one?

Posted by: torabora at June 17, 2025 02:32 PM (PuHKi)

266 Why would I put up with your shit if you're going to give up the goodies for anyone who tickles your fancy?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:19 PM (ExV1e)

Codependency. I do not get it.

To me love is a jealous emotion. That can be taken way too far of course, but it is like chasing the gal seeing a couple other guys, why want to be part of a crowd. Fuck that. You want to be chased? Go hold up a liqour store.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 02:33 PM (zZu0s)

267 Texas Swing is good. I like me some Bob Wills.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 02:33 PM (ITkJX)

268 btw rich people dinner parties - we always made sure to leave as early as possible - after 10pm it goes all Ice Storm (the key party thing)

and yes drugs become involved

ACK! so gross

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:33 PM (Pv3Rg)

269 Lord.

Graham saying that the troops are desperately looking forward to fighting in Iran.

Note, he's saying this not in the Situation Room where Trump is meeting currently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

270 210 And looking at the polycules the FNM was enamored with apparently there are guys that will do so as well, and in there cases, because the alternative is...nothing.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:21 PM (t0Rmr)
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Heinlein kinda-sort-of addressed this in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress," although Loonie line and poly marriages were more a necessity born of demographics rather than a perversion born of...well, perversion.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at June 17, 2025 02:33 PM (QdGJh)

271 zombie at June 17, 2025 01:36 PM (pMi6S)

******

Is this the Zombie of ZombieTime in the SF Bay Area?

If so, good to see ya.

You were a legend.

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 02:33 PM (u5B+T)

272 First rule of Wife Swap Club.

No murder.

Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 02:34 PM (fV+MH)

273 Is it swinging if I just watch? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Wong Wray Wooten at June 17, 2025 02:34 PM (qUkBO)

274 there would have to be a pre-planned use of force to physically secure the states' borders, and some plan to stop revenue outflows

it would be a whole mess, maybe impossible

better to wait for the fedgov to implode

Im' also warming to the idea of packing the USSC
Posted by: Black Orchid

Put out the call. Texans will swarm their borders to lock it down.

They didn't with the illegals because they knew there would be stacks of bodies like cordwood.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 02:35 PM (PfGa7)

275 250 Wow. They managed to kill any desire I had to even give a new Reacher season a chance.

Can this asshole just die already?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 02:30 PM (zZu0s)

Miss me yet?

Posted by: Tom Cruise at June 17, 2025 02:35 PM (kEaYg)

276 Wow, I had no idea that my lame pun on the word "swing" would open up a whole discussion on swinging.

I gotta be more careful what I post around here.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 02:35 PM (77rzZ)

277 250 Wow. They managed to kill any desire I had to even give a new Reacher season a chance.

Can this asshole just die already?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 02:30 PM (zZu0s)

--

I watched the first season because everybody said it was like a 80s/90s action flick.

They were right.
I enjoyed it for what it was.

But I haven't bothered with watching it since.
Especially since the actor, I forget his name, started running his mouth off about politics.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 02:35 PM (6ydKt)

278 I guess its changing but it at one time it was accepted as an innate trait that men could screw anyone just based on a physical desire with no emotional attachment whereas women mostly only could do it only on an emotional level.

now married female teachers are getting their freak on with students left and right. Don't think that's an emotional thing.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:36 PM (VofaG)

279 Joe Biden Meets 'Reacher': Ex-President and Son Hunter Crash Season 4 Set; Star Alan Ritchson Praises 'Lovely' Family of 'Legends'
Posted by: Darrell Harris
+++
Disgusting.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 17, 2025 02:36 PM (Lo97M)

280 Yup, this is that Zombie.

Awesome.

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 02:36 PM (u5B+T)

281 How come we never get swapped?

Posted by: Husbands at June 17, 2025 02:36 PM (y/iut)

282 BREAKING: ICE has arrested NYC mayoral candidate Brad Lander for interfering with their operations.

Another commie political nut job now in cuffs.

When does Hochul get the bracelets?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:36 PM (/U5Yz)

283 Supposedly all US Navy and Allied ships have put to sea.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (DLqye)

284 When my wife and I first got together I said that I don't believe in divorce except for cases of abuse or infidelity. She said that she'd try and work through infidelity. I said that I wouldn't.

Fortunately, never became an issue.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (ExV1e)

285 now married female teachers are getting their freak on with students left and right. Don't think that's an emotional thing.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:36 PM (VofaG)

I think the drive for power is an emotion. There can't be many more powerful feelings than a man (boy, in this case) being available at your whim.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (lHAAk)

286 Old and Busted - Russian Collusion
New Hotness - Chinese Collusion

Unchanged - The Clintons

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (Dv3i1)

287 283 Supposedly all US Navy and Allied ships have put to sea.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (DLqye)

=======

"We'll be there in a bit."
-the crew of the USS Constitution

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

288 Russian mouthpiece Zerohedge, very upset Trump might step in and let the military finish Iran and blow up their shit.

Must be the right decision.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (o6bO/)

289 The GOP will make sure nothing happens to Wray. They’d probably vote the confirm him again if a Democrat gets back in the White House.

Posted by: FlatVille Bill at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (uMGpS)

290 250 Wow. They managed to kill any desire I had to even give a new Reacher season a chance.

Can this asshole just die already?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work

The last season sucked.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:38 PM (/U5Yz)

291 Reacher went on my blocked list when he went on some unhinged orangemanbad rant. Fuck him.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 02:38 PM (ewjUl)

292
When does Hochul get the bracelets?

Vearing or using schweinhund?

Because I hav zee boys vearing them every Saturday aber Ich? Zee She-Vulff does not vear zee handcuffs

Posted by: Hochul She-Wolf of the SS at June 17, 2025 02:38 PM (t0Rmr)

293 288 Russian mouthpiece Zerohedge, very upset Trump might step in and let the military finish Iran and blow up their shit.

Must be the right decision.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (o6bO/)

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At most, Trump do like he did in Syria: strategic bombing.

I'm not even sure we'll get to that point, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:38 PM (GBKbO)

294 But crucially: Wray claimed that he knew of no plots to interfere with the 2020 election and did not provide these documents to Congress despite Chuck Grassley demanding them.

-------------------

If we're not gonna execute him for treason, did we at least take away his taxpayer-funded private jet?

/Speaking of which, how are those paltry recissions coming along in the US Senate?

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 02:38 PM (yHCVN)

295 I don't think they will need all of them.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:38 PM (P9gC0)

296 We had a notorious "swinging couple" case in my former home town.

I can't remember if wife got tired of husband and had him offed by her swinger or if it was the other way around.

either way, the wife went to jail, as did the murderer.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:32 PM (tT6L1)

I'd guess the wife because again she got emotionally attached. But times they are a changing .

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (VofaG)

297 @sentdefender
9m
U.S. strikes against targets inside of Iran, including nuclear facilities, are “on the table” during a meeting of the National Security Council (NSC) currently taking place in the White House Situation Room, according to officials who spoke with Fox News

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (Ffc+8)

298 Supposedly all US Navy and Allied ships have put to sea.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM

All of them?

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (ewjUl)

299 /Speaking of which, how are those paltry recissions coming along in the US Senate?

Has the BBB been passed?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (ExV1e)

300 9m
U.S. strikes against targets inside of Iran, including nuclear facilities, are “on the table” during a meeting of the National Security Council (NSC) currently taking place in the White House Situation Room, according to officials who spoke with Fox News
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (Ffc+

Officials ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (VE6XX)

301 Graham saying that the troops are desperately looking forward to fighting in Iran.
____

Probably a misquote. More likely Graham is saying he's deperately looking forward to see our troops fighting in Iran.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (Dv3i1)

302 The problem with paper ballots and one-day voting is that the Dem civil servants will ensure a shortage of ballots and no means of printing them in Repub leaning districts.

Posted by: Butch at June 17, 2025 02:40 PM (K5iRo)

303 I'm guessing Iran had one breakout nuke.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 02:40 PM (DLqye)

304 ======

At most, Trump do like he did in Syria: strategic bombing.

I'm not even sure we'll get to that point, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu a
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Take out Fordow.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:40 PM (Ffc+8)

305 301 Graham saying that the troops are desperately looking forward to fighting in Iran.
____

Probably a misquote. More likely Graham is saying he's deperately looking forward to see our troops fighting in Iran.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (Dv3i1)

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Dude's delusional:

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/
1935040359362335155

"The men and women who serve - they're the ones going, not the ones answering a poll."

"If you ask them 'would you be willing to risk your life to stop the Ayatollah from having a nuclear weapon,' ALL of them would say yes!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:40 PM (GBKbO)

306 How? How do those 20-ish states sever their membership?

It's not just taxes. It's driver/marriage/gun licenses, federal land (all 50 states contain federal land), civil court proceedings, passports, customs, schools, et al.

It can't be done.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

Driver/marriage/gun licenses are state issued anyway. Federal land? You don't own any land Mr. Fed. Land is sitting inside the Republic of Texas. Same as it always was. Civil courts proceedings? State level. State issues a driver's license, it can issue it's own passport. Schools are a state level issue.

The only thing you have mentioned that is federal is customs. And a state, as a sovereign nation, could regulate that.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 02:40 PM (PfGa7)

307 U.S. strikes against targets inside of Iran, including nuclear facilities, are “on the table” during a meeting of the National Security Council (NSC) currently taking place in the White House Situation Room, according to officials who spoke with Fox News

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (Ffc+

I don't know why this is shocking to people.

EVERYTHING is on the table in the Situation Room. That's the point. Discuss all COAs, contingencies, mitigations, et al., then decide.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 02:40 PM (lHAAk)

308 303 I'm guessing Iran had one breakout nuke.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 02:40 PM (DLqye)

I'm thinking you're right

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM (VE6XX)

309 Reacher went on my blocked list when he went on some unhinged orangemanbad rant. Fuck him.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 02:38 PM (ewjUl)

He went on a David French rant that he has the say so on Christian beliefs and appropriate Christian behavior.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM (VofaG)

310 >> I'm not even sure we'll get to that point, though.

Iran is not giving up. They keep firing at Israeli civilian centers.

Our assets are moving into position. My guess is to be used, especially against nuke sites.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM (o6bO/)

311 Sweep the leg.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM (P9gC0)

312 There can't be many more powerful feelings than a man (boy, in this case) being available at your whim.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM

Word!

Posted by: P Bootyjuice at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM (ewjUl)

313 There were 3 big stories about Memphis, Cincinnati, and Chicago where the CBP found fake driver's licenses. DFW airport as well.

Posted by: Spiff the Spaceman at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM (evaxF)

314 This is how we got China Joe. Right after they gave us the China flu.

Posted by: Shoofly the Boxing Mule at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (ufJfM)

315 Jack Reacher or Jack, Reach-around?

Both!

Posted by: Pete Buttegieg at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (Dv3i1)

316 U.S. strikes against targets inside of Iran, including nuclear facilities, are “on the table” during a meeting of the National Security Council (NSC) currently taking place in the White House Situation Room, according to officials who spoke with Fox News
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (Ffc+

Officials ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (VE6XX)

Chief Hand Towel Manager of the Capitol Washroom.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (S/Y4j)

317 I'm guessing Iran had one breakout nuke.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 02:40 PM (DLqye)

I'm thinking you're right
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM (VE6XX)

I'm wondering if they got word from that general they smuggled out of Iran.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (ExV1e)

318 Joe and Hunter visited the set of Reacher and he Tweeted an embarrassing glazing of Joe

Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (YwEeS)

319 He went on a David French rant that he has the say so on Christian beliefs and appropriate Christian behavior.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM

He, he's a bitch.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (ewjUl)

320 310 >> I'm not even sure we'll get to that point, though.

Iran is not giving up. They keep firing at Israeli civilian centers.

Our assets are moving into position. My guess is to be used, especially against nuke sites.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM (o6bO/)

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Trump can just keep selling equipment to Israel. Iran's ability to launch is degrading every day, their ability to hold their own airspace down to almost nothing.

Putting our resources in the region is good precautionary stuff, but it doesn't necessarily mean preparation for proactive moves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

321
I'd guess the wife because again she got emotionally attached. But times they are a changing .
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (VofaG)
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Crud, I stated that badly. I meant I didn't remember if the husband offed the other man or if the other man offed the husband. Either way, everything was orchestrated by the wife.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (tT6L1)

322 June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (Ffc+

Officials ?
Posted by: It's me donna
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Trump wants it published. He wants them to surrender unconditionally and give it up. He's giving them a last chance.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (Ffc+8)

323 Speaking of the Bidens, guess who just had a fanboy moment with them recently?

https://is.gd/XdSI3O

Joe Biden Meets 'Reacher': Ex-President and Son Hunter Crash Season 4 Set; Star Alan Ritchson Praises 'Lovely' Family of 'Legends'
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 17, 2025 02:10 PM (kEaYg)
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Well, he's not wrong. They are "legends" -- in the same sense that Amber Heard is a legend for shitting on Depp's bed. As for "lovely," only Brits and homos use that term, so I assume he's signaling he'd like a threesome with Hunter and some Russian whore.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

324 Supposedly all US Navy and Allied ships have put to sea.
Posted by: Ben Had

Release the dolphins!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 02:43 PM (PfGa7)

325 BREAKING: The FBI has documents which reveal the CCP produced fake U.S. driver's licenses to skew the 2020 election with fake mail-in ballots for Joe Biden.

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Was it as many that were done by the state of Califzuela itself?

"Newscum and Xi
Flaming in a tree ...
K-I-S-S-I-N-G!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 02:43 PM (yHCVN)

326 I liked the books.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:43 PM (P9gC0)

327 This is how we got China Joe. Right after they gave us the China flu.

I see London
I see France
I gave you president poopy pants
HAHAHA stupid Americans

Posted by: Chairman Xi at June 17, 2025 02:43 PM (t0Rmr)

328 Heh.

https://tinyurl.com/pm7vwzfr

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:43 PM (jc0TO)

329 269 Lord.

Graham saying that the troops are desperately looking forward to fighting in Iran.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

--

So now he's just making shit up as he goes along.

Tucker should be going after Lindsey, not Trump.

Half want us to take the other side and bomb Israel and the other half want us to bomb and invade Iran.

Trump's about the only sane, rational, one around.

He might drop some bombs to finish the thing but there's no way in hell Trump wants Americans on the ground in Tehran.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 02:44 PM (6ydKt)

330 327 This is how we got China Joe. Right after they gave us the China flu.

I see London
I see France
I gave you president poopy pants
HAHAHA stupid Americans
Posted by: Chairman Xi at June 17, 2025 02:43 PM (t0Rmr)

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That's just what Winnie the Pooh would say.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:44 PM (GBKbO)

331 I'm guessing Iran had one breakout nuke.

Posted by: Ben Had

If so and there's any intel on its location, that's become the hunt to end all hunts.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at June 17, 2025 02:44 PM (OUMaO)

332 Joe Biden Meets 'Reacher': Ex-President and Son Hunter Crash Season 4 Set; Star Alan Ritchson Praises 'Lovely' Family of 'Legends'

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 17, 2025 02:10 PM (kEaYg)
______________

What an idiot. First, when oh when will actors/actresses learn to STFU, especially about politics?

Second, he's cozying up to a washed up fraud. Ritchson must have the IQ of a rutabaga.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2025 02:44 PM (YqDXo)

333
Putting our resources in the region is good precautionary stuff, but it doesn't necessarily mean preparation for proactive moves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (GBKbO)
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Putting so much resources in the region is telling the other eager beavers to stand down.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (Ffc+8)

334 Joe and Hunter visited the set of Reacher and he Tweeted an embarrassing glazing of Joe
Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM

Well he was a male model, so I am sure he's used to being glazed.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (ewjUl)

335 Probably a misquote. More likely Graham is saying he's deperately looking forward to see our troops fighting in Iran.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 02:39 PM (Dv3i1)

You're always asking, badgering, spying on me! Well, I won't be suffocated anymore. I'm tired of being your trophy boy! It's over, you hear me? Over! And I'm keeping the jewelry!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (/xbAD)

336
He went on a David French rant that he has the say so on Christian beliefs and appropriate Christian behavior.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM (VofaG)
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Yeah, he's trying to justify some of the stuff he does on screen.

Meanwhile, Jim Caviezel obviously has lines he won't cross on the screen. At least, that's been my take when watching, "Person of Interest."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (tT6L1)

337 Yea But..................... Trump combs his hair weirdly !!!!!!!

Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (aKoaI)

338 >>Putting our resources in the region is good precautionary stuff, but it doesn't necessarily mean preparation for proactive moves.

Assets are not just on the move. They are now in theater and forward deployed. Something is happening. That’s why the Russians are in full propaganda mode. They realize all the president has to do is give the order.

There is something there are not saying about the nuke situation.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (o6bO/)

339 He might drop some bombs to finish the thing but there's no way in hell Trump wants Americans on the ground in Tehran.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 02:44 PM (6ydKt)

But they’d be greeted as liberators!
/sarc

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (Mxf84)

340 First, when oh when will actors/actresses learn to STFU, especially about politics?

When they start suffering for running their mouths.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (ExV1e)

341 There is something there are not saying about the nuke situation.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (o6bO/)

I agree...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 02:46 PM (VE6XX)

342
I also don't get it from a practical standpoint. Like, are we just going to head over to Bob and Sue's house, have a casual dinner, jump into a sweaty pile of flesh, then go home? Then I get to go fishing with Bob tomorrow like nothing happened?

Weird shit.
Posted by: ballistic

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My impression, from watching Bruno, is that swinging is strictly a club activity, not an activity that you work into your existing social life. So, you show up at the designated location, engage in the activity with whoever else happens to be there, and go home. Like ballroom dancing, bridge, book clubs, etc.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:46 PM (wbZPZ)

343 333
Putting our resources in the region is good precautionary stuff, but it doesn't necessarily mean preparation for proactive moves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:42 PM (GBKbO)
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Putting so much resources in the region is telling the other eager beavers to stand down.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (Ffc+

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There's also that, though it's unclear what allies Iran has in the region.

Egypt, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia all seem to hate Iran's guts. Their only allies are Russia, who can't supply them with much, and China, who mostly uses them to buy oil.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

344 10:16 pm in Tehran.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 02:46 PM (PfGa7)

345 Was it as many that were done by the state of Califzuela itself?

"Newscum and Xi
Flaming in a tree ...
K-I-S-S-I-N-G!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests

Sure, I'll have our teams make tens of thousands of fake IDs. Just clean up your shit encrusted, dope-fiend invested craphole San Francisco for my official visit. And some possible other considerations.

Posted by: Pete Buttegieg at June 17, 2025 02:46 PM (Dv3i1)

346 The Biden family is legendary. A legendary bunch of grifter scumbags. So the Reacher guy ain't wrong.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 02:46 PM (akw+7)

347 USS Nimitz is moving into the AO from the South China Sea. I don't know if that's such a great idea.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:46 PM (/U5Yz)

348 Graham saying that the troops are desperately looking forward to fighting in Iran.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

--

So now he's just making shit up as he goes along.
...
Posted by: SpeakingO
----------------------------------

Graham looks stoned to the gills.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:47 PM (Ffc+8)

349 No state politician wants to play around and talk about secession because no one is dumb enough to tell his voters "hey I want to take away all your social security and all your medicare and all your medicaid!" Then propenents say "well we'll just keep the money we send out" but no, if you're not part of the country you've got to create your own currency and use that, and that will be a decades long clusterfuck for anyone who tries it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 02:47 PM (uWKK8)

350 Trump did leave the G 7 abruptly... I think he wanted to be there to make his deals....... Something made his leaving urgent.

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 02:47 PM (VE6XX)

351 Supposedly all US Navy and Allied ships have put to sea.
Posted by: Ben Had

Release the dolphins!
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 02:43 PM (PfGa7)

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BREAKING: Iranian "Supreme Leader" Executed By Bunker-Buster Explosives Delivered Beneath His Yacht By Military Working Dolphins. Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 02:47 PM (yHCVN)

352 We knew Wray was scum... but Bill Barr ALSO testified that the Election was AOK and nothing to see...

Follow the plan...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 02:47 PM (mP0Kj)

353 309 Reacher went on my blocked list when he went on some unhinged orangemanbad rant. Fuck him.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 02:38 PM (ewjUl)

He went on a David French rant that he has the say so on Christian beliefs and appropriate Christian behavior.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:41 PM (VofaG)
______________

He's a scholar! And a gym rat!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2025 02:48 PM (YqDXo)

354 Sockfail @345 - s/b Xi. Not sure why he socked as Mayor Pete.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 02:48 PM (Dv3i1)

355 rump did leave the G 7 abruptly... I think he wanted to be there to make his deals....... Something made his leaving urgent.
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 02:47 PM (VE6XX)
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Security threats within the US due to the previous administration would be my guess.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 02:48 PM (tT6L1)

356 I hope we have plenty of hunter/ killer subs in the region

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 02:49 PM (DLqye)

357 I don't believe this for 1 minute. Trump was winning up until Midnight and then they stopped counting for 2 hours.

After the 2 hours it showed Blo Jiden had won. This seems normal to me. Why would Putin and Xi want the Mighty Joe Biden and the Cackler in charge in the USA. Joe is General Ripper's Brother when it comes to killing Commies ...

Another Scam that Hillary Clinton has brought to light !!!

Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 17, 2025 02:49 PM (aKoaI)

358 350 Trump did leave the G 7 abruptly... I think he wanted to be there to make his deals....... Something made his leaving urgent.
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 02:47 PM (VE6XX)

G7 would be a yuge terrorist target, with limited security in place.

He's safer in the White House.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 02:49 PM (mP0Kj)

359 I also don't get it from a practical standpoint. Like, are we just going to head over to Bob and Sue's house, have a casual dinner, jump into a sweaty pile of flesh, then go home? Then I get to go fishing with Bob tomorrow like nothing happened?

Weird shit.
Posted by: ballistic

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My impression, from watching Bruno, is that swinging is strictly a club activity, not an activity that you work into your existing social life. So, you show up at the designated location, engage in the activity with whoever else happens to be there, and go home. Like ballroom dancing, bridge, book clubs, etc.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:46 PM (wbZPZ)
______

You are correct

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 02:49 PM (iFTx/)

360 Swinging has rules.

Open Relationship less so and are flexible.

Both are retarded.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:49 PM (VofaG)

361 Nood.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:50 PM (ExV1e)

362 No state politician wants to play around and talk about secession because no one is dumb enough to tell his voters "hey I want to take away all your social security and all your medicare and all your medicaid!" Then propenents say "well we'll just keep the money we send out" but no, if you're not part of the country you've got to create your own currency and use that, and that will be a decades long clusterfuck for anyone who tries it.

Posted by: Tom Servo

On top of which, how many states could realistically go it alone as their own nation-state at this point? Everybody cites Texas, and at one time California was credible--might still be, just barely--but I just don't see a lot of these others trying. Plus you would have a whole lot of landlocked nations formed, and that does not tend to work out well. More likely groups of states banding together.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at June 17, 2025 02:50 PM (OUMaO)

363 Nood Bomb Iran...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:50 PM (t0Rmr)

364
45

In other words: In most California precincts, you don't even need a fake ID. They just let you vote anyway, whoever you might be.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 01:43 PM

-------

There's a state law that says voters can't be asked for ID.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (uz6ub)

365 341 There is something there are not saying about the nuke situation.
Posted by: Vengeance at June 17, 2025 02:45 PM (o6bO/)

I agree...
Posted by: It's me donna
-------------------------------

Pretty clear that Iran has a bomb and was ready to use it.
Not a month ago Trump told Israel to back off.
Then he opened the gate.
Those dumb mullahs set off that bomb the whole world becomes inflamed. Push come to shove, we'll MOAB the place.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (Ffc+8)

366 Graham looks stoned to the gills.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:47 PM (Ffc+

---

Well it's after lunch so he's probably waiting on the martinis to wear off.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (6ydKt)

367 I currently have Raffensperger in court in Georgia for lying about the authority to ignore the law, but we get this sensational BS instead. My case is still live and in front of a judge The Georgia AG has even stepped in trying to defend Raffensperger.
https://tinyurl.com/bdz3urwh

Posted by: Timmy at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (7CDMS)

368 Wgich wire should you cut first?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (P9gC0)

369 Breaking News.......

IDF finds incinerated body of the Ayatollah melted and attached to a dead Goats Ass in Sleazy Days Inn located outside of Tehran with an AI Generated nude picture of Nancy Pelosi splattered with cum stains on the face.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (BltCC)

370 OT - So the media just out and one lies but we knew that . My newsfeed just reports an article from the left wing, "New Republic" " Trump reams out Pete Hegseth for disastrous military parade" Really? What was disastrous about it? Some of the military wasn't marching in step?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (2GCMq)

371 370 OT - So the media just out and one lies but we knew that . My newsfeed just reports an article from the left wing, "New Republic" " Trump reams out Pete Hegseth for disastrous military parade" Really? What was disastrous about it? Some of the military wasn't marching in step?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (2GCMq)

There's been an entire subculture of stupidity on that topic by the left. First, the Left said that the Parade was going to be some huge neo-stalinist goosestepping extravaganza. (No it wasn't) because That's What Trump Wanted. (no he didn't) Then it turned out to be a very enjoyable parade, not scary at all, so Trump must have hated it. (No he didn't) Now they claim he's yelling at Hegseth because the Parade wasn't the thing that only Leftists ever said it was going to be. The amazing thing is that the leftists have made up every step of this story out of thin air.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (uWKK8)

372 OT - So the media just out and one lies but we knew that . My newsfeed just reports an article from the left wing, "New Republic" " Trump reams out Pete Hegseth for disastrous military parade" Really? What was disastrous about it? Some of the military wasn't marching in step?

It was a disaster because it makes the Dems look like the Commie Traitors they are. Walz said it looked like NK.

Well, he should know ...... Right Comrade Fat Boy and Deserter....

Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (BltCC)

373 Yo Ragheads....

From Whitman AFB with Love..........

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OL5FIWha0A

Posted by: Gen. Ripper, Wing CC at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (aKoaI)

374 Obama got 69.5M in 2008 and 65.9M in 2012. I'd say Cumswalla's 75+M in 2024 is an outlier...even an extreme one, considering how poor a candidate she was; never won a single delegate in a Dem primary.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (y2f7I)

375 And why didn't Wray provide the documents when Grassley 'demanded' them?

Because he knew Grassley was just another RINO gasbag pussy that would never actually DO anything about it.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (setIA)

376 The Biden administration’s National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism was never about protecting Americans. It was about targeting them. From the day it was released, the strategy became a political weapon used against political opponents and anyone who dared to challenge government overreach.

The bureaucracy should not have the power to label law-abiding citizens as potential terrorists under vague and intentionally undefined terms such as “anti-government” and “anti-authority.”

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 03:27 PM (RHGPo)

377 The report – one of two sent Monday by FBI Director Kash Patel to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley – was sent out to U.S. intelligence agencies on Aug. 24, 2020 as an uncorroborated advisory and then suddenly recalled with little explanation other than the bureau wanted to “re-interview” the source, the documents stated.

The recall notice specifically asked spy agencies to erase or delete the original intelligence memo, the memos show. “This report was recalled in order to re-interview the source. Recipients should destroy all copies of the original report and remove the original report from all computer holdings,” the recall notice stated.

Officials told Just the News the recall kept the FBI and other agencies from fully investigating allegations that Beijing was trying to meddle in the U.S. election to Biden’s benefit, even though corroborating evidence came in from a fellow law enforcement agency. They said U.S. Customs Border and Protection had captured 19,888 of the fake driver’s licenses -- mostly from Hong Kong and China in late July 2020 – on their way to battleground states in the Midwest.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 04:53 PM (RHGPo)

378 China America #1 Enemy with the Russians as #2 Illegal Aliens at #3 and the Globalists Like Soros Gates and Schwab and the rest of them all

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 17, 2025 06:37 PM (wGqjj)

Trump: "I'm In No Mood to Negotiate," Says He's Not Looking for a Ceasefire with Iran, But Rather "an End"

"An end" to the problem of Iran's nuclear program and, perhaps, an end to Iran's 70 year war on America. Not "an end" to Iran itself. (Though he does seem to now favor regime change.)

Trump gave a 1am press conference last night to knock down claims that he's working to spare Iran and save the Ayatollah.

It sure sounds like he wants Israel to finish the job and take this to an actual end, not just a resumption of the status quo under some "deal." Trump went so far as to say that Iran "giving up entirely" is the goal and that "I'm not too much in the mood to negotiate."

He also reiterated that Iran was "very close" to having a nuclear weapon before the strikes, and vowed again that Iran would not be permitted to have one.

That last quote also included this line when asked about DNI Tulsi Gabbard's assertion in March that Iran had no nuclear weapons program.

TRUMP: I don't care what she said. I think they were very close to having them.

I'd consider that a shot across the bow to those in his administration who have sought to undermine him and push their own foreign policy goals in relation to Iran.

Update: CBD says that Tulsi's quote is being used by the oppressively propagandistic Regime media out-of-context to stir up trouble.

Update: The quote was that Iran isn't currently building a nuke, not that they weren't working hard to build a nuke. Fox News war-whore Jennifer Griffin is misquoting her to push her Democrat/Deep State agenda, as usual. Tulsi has clarified that she and Trump are on the same page with regard to Iran's nuke program.

Sarah Ferris
@sarahnferris
DNI Gabbard tells us she and Trump are "on the same page" when it comes to Iran nuclear timeline
"Pres Trump was saying the same thing that I said in my annual threat assessment back in March. Unfortunately too many people in the media don't care to actually read what I said"

From Biden's dog sniffs a whole lot of malarkey.

.@POTUS: "Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. It's very simple — you don't have to go to too deep into it. They just can't have a nuclear weapon." pic.twitter.com/LBgK3DIluq
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) June 17, 2025

REPORTER: "What are you looking for here?"@POTUS: "An end. A real end. Not a ceasefire — an end." pic.twitter.com/EESQ7zzhw1
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) June 17, 2025

Trump noticed that Tucker Carlson has gotten far too big for his little britches and checked him.

Tucker Carlson is now saying that Trump's presidency will end early -- due to his failure to obey the dictates of lifetime babbler and non-productive-worker Tucker Carlson -- and Trump called him "kooky" in response.

Trump also pulled out the Big Guns: He implied Tucker Carlson was irrelevant because he doesn't have a network show. That insult is behind-the-times given that no one cares about a network's imprimature any longer, but it does show the level of Trump's annoyance.

When Trump starts talking about your ratings, he's done with you.

President Trump responds to Tucker Carlson’s comments that he is complicit in the war.

Trump: "I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying. Let him go get a television network and say it so that people listen." pic.twitter.com/l5rXVSYVfY
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) June 16, 2025

As I've said before: Trump has never signed on to the hyper-isolationist's platform. Yes, Trump says he wants peace and wants to be known for making more peace for war. But there is a caveat to that the hyper-isolationists continually refuse to acknowledge: He also talks in a Jacksonian way. He says he wants peace, but always also indicates he will "blow you to hell" if you mess with America.

Trump said he would re-orient America's foreign and military policy to put America's interest first -- not that he would never take a military action against an enemy.

And not that he would affirmatively work to undermine an ally just because Tucker Carlson and some others on the paleo-right have decided that Jews Control the World and it's time to go to war with them.

Again, the hyper-isolationists refuse to acknowledge that and then claim that Trump is betraying them.

No, you're betraying him. He never once signed on to your Code Pink/ANSWER foreign policy agenda. You completely hallucinated that, and then you use your hallucination to claim that Trump is going back on the promise he made you.

Posted by: Ace at 12:37 PM

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1 First?

Posted by: The Subjunctive Mood at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (w9Wax)

2 An end would be good.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (ExV1e)

3 'Was' should be the operative word. Not 'is.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (bss/y)

4 in early

Posted by: Shaftoe at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (P1t+h)

5 I'll noodify the others.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 12:39 PM (w9Wax)

6 And THAT is how you negotiate. You start with the biggest ask, the biggest consequences, the largest risk to the other side.

You don't start by handcuffing yourself like our "elite" "diplomats" always do.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 12:39 PM (zjgNU)

7 "Kooky Karlson"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 12:39 PM (Q4IgG)

8 Once you're in a war, win it.
The time for half assing is over. Put the whole ass on it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (xcxpd)

9 Trump didn't get into office to continue the Obama/Biden policy of slow surrender to Iran.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (Dv3i1)

10 I'll look down and whisper ... no.

Posted by: Donald J. Trump, First of His Name at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (jc0TO)

11 And someone tell Massie to can it....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (VE6XX)

12 th!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (kgE5c)

13 Fuck, even code pink did not give a shit. Their 'isolationism' was purely political.

One, some of these feels squirrelous as far as arguments go. Simple semantic games on twitter. How many people actually believe it?

It is perfect being the enemy of the good territory.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (bss/y)

14 Yes. This is a different now. We could see right when Israel first started that this would not be a typical "make some noise then go back to situation normal" thing. It was too well gamed out, too well planned, and too well executed to be anything other than putting Iran into existential crisis.

Would have been much more difficult without US support.

I'm trying to think that between the US and Israel...which one is the bad cop...?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (x69Nb)

15 I will forgive Tulsi this ONE TIME if she shows me her rack. During an oil wresting match with Nancy Mace.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (sRoQh)

16 Odd that I didn't see this last thread. I looked it upto make sure I wasn't misremembering.

Iran took Americans hostage and held them.
Ukraine didn't.
That's the difference. Plus we know Ukraine isn't working together nukes.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (AcTAo)

17 Ace, i think that question about Gabbard was a set-up. She didn't say they do not have a weapons program, I think she said something like, "they aren't currently building a nuclear weapon."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (L5An7)

18 Would I believe the Israeli IC over ours? Well, I don't know who runs theirs, but I know who runs ours, and I don't trust the SOBs.

Posted by: huerfano at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (n2swS)

19 Willowed:

458 He's right, you know. (Konstantin Kisin)
Joking aside, the reason the online isolationists are having such a meltdown is actually not even that they are "anti-war". Current events are shattering the illusion that their hot takes are representative or influential. This is why they're so upset.

The reason they have been able to maintain this illusion in their minds despite the fact that President Trump has always been pro-Israel and a hawk on Iran is that the illusion was flattering to them.

Thousands and thousands of likes on their posts about how Churchill was the chief villain of WWII and Israel is the root of all evil went to their head. They thought they had power. The thought they had influence. And now that they've realised they don't they're calling for Trump to be impeached

https://is.gd/E7WxaG

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (s8j++)

20 8 Once you're in a war, win it.
The time for half assing is over. Put the whole ass on it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (xcxpd)

https://tinyurl.com/3yadmw4p

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (bss/y)

21 >>> Trump: "I'm In No Mood to Negotiate... I'm Not Looking for a Ceasefire, I'm Looking for an End."

=====

Might as well have he said he was there to chew bubble gum and kick ass. And that he was all out of bubble gum.

Posted by: Turn 2 at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (6TlG5)

22 We're getting close to flaming ayatollah skull territory, aren't we?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (h7ZuX)

23 The CIA Assessment was remarkably wrong about how close Iran was to a nuke. It is also wrong about how Iran can weaponize some of that nuclear material and their intent to use it. CiNC didn’t rush back to the US because he had a tee time. Mark this on your calendars.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 12:42 PM (mFoqI)

24 "I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying. Let him go get a television network and say it so that people listen."

That's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 17, 2025 12:42 PM (jGGMD)

25 15 I will forgive Tulsi this ONE TIME if she shows me her rack. During an oil wresting match with Nancy Mace.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (sRoQh)

*perks up*
If that happens...I'll forgive her a whole lot.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:42 PM (xcxpd)

26 Tucker has forgotten the cardinal rule:

You never go Full Retard. Tucker went Full Retard.

Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 12:42 PM (3BwY8)

27

If I had a 12" wang I could stick in my own pooper!

Posted by: T. Carlson, Esq. at June 17, 2025 12:42 PM (gYVB4)

28 No, you're betraying him. He never once signed on to your Code Pink/ANSWER foreign policy agenda. You completely hallucinated that, and then you use your hallucination to claim that Trump is going back on the promise he made you.

======

People getting mad about immigration pull backs make sense. He promised the largest mass deportation program in history.

People getting mad at Trump for Israel attacking Iran and Trump not...stopping it? Makes no sense. Trump is a Jacksonian and is always in favor of punching a bully in the nose, and Iran has been punching Israel (and us to a lesser extent) in the nose for decades. If Trump is publicly aligned with Israel, which he is, then of course he's going to aid, in limited ways like sharing of intel, Israel with knocking at Iran's regime's supports.

Of course he is.

This is not a hard logical progression. It's nothing he really promised, but it fits with who he is, what he's always said he believed, and how he behaves on the global stage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:42 PM (GBKbO)

29 Send John Kerry to negotiate!

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 12:42 PM (w9Wax)

30 14 comments before boobs are mentioned. Progress.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (Dv3i1)

31 We know exactly where the so-called "Supreme Leader" is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there - We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. But we don't want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

-
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu Won’t Rule Out Killing Iran’s Supreme Leader

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (L/fGl)

32 I really don't get the problem with Gabbard's answer to Congressional questioning.

Gabbard said it was the assessment of the intelligence community that "Iran is not currently building a nuclear weapon."

She also said: "Iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons."

All of that appears to be entirely accurate. Iran wasn't (and probably still isn't) 'currently building' a nuclear weapon. They very much were sprinting towards the capability to do so with every available resource, and every indicator is that they were trying to get to a place where they COULD be 'currently building' a nuclear wepon.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (lHAAk)

33 Hey, remember when Joe Biden used to give 1am press conferences?

LOL

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (9mw3J)

34 20 8 Once you're in a war, win it.
The time for half assing is over. Put the whole ass on it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (xcxpd)

https://tinyurl.com/3yadmw4p
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (bss/y)

Wow.
Quality pooper.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (xcxpd)

35 I'm Not Looking for a Ceasefire, I'm Looking for an End.

But then we can't have "negotiations" and "heightened tensions" and "grave consequences"!!

Posted by: The Deep State at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (YumCr)

36 Im also sick of Tucker and his liege. They believe we shouldn’t be involved in a conflict unless the OPFOR rolls up on Long Beach. That’s just unrealistic in today’s world of ballistic weaponry.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (mFoqI)

37 he will "blow you to hell" if you mess with America.
.......

I voted for this.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (UjdFS)

38 What if IAF crews have been training on B-2s and the US "gives" one or a few of them to Israel, with the US markings removed and IAF markings replacing them until further notice?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (n+rGF)

39 Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu Won’t Rule Out Killing Iran’s Supreme Leader
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (L/fGl)

LOL.
We found our bad cop.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (sRoQh)

40 With movement of US assets and Trumps rhetoric, it appears a major attack is imminent.

Posted by: WisRich at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (G0vdT)

41 It occurred to me yesterday that the diplomatic corps that normally handles relations between nation states is wildly out of their depth with respect to President Trump.

In their world, EVERYONE is a double-dealing, backstabbing weasel, regardless of what nation they represent, so they assume everyone is like them.

President Trump is a businessman who expects results at the end of the day. He's a man of his word, because that carries a great deal of weight in his world. People can trust him, knowing that he'll get the job done.

Diplomats HATE that because they can't understand it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (7fElN)

42 The DNI making such a foolish declaration should have been grounds for dismissal. Seriously, Tulsi, WTF?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (wzAuc)

43 Ace,
This is a wonderful post. Thank you.

Posted by: Wenda at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (2EeNt)

44 >>3 'Was' should be the operative word. Not 'is.'

he actually did say "was." I'll go back and correct my misquote.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (KRtlO)

45 Send John Kerry to negotiate!

Not an option. James Taylor is on vacation.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (s8j++)

46 Since Ace used the Walter Russell Mead term 'Jacksonian' in terms of foreign policy, I'll add (using terms that Mead would use) that the problem with Jeffersonian foreign policy (and the Carlson types Ace doesn't like are Jeffersonians) is that it can't articulate what is a threat worth responding to beyond an actual attack on US soil itself. Jacksonians, Hamiltonians and even the hideous Wilsonians can articulate when foreign intervention is necessary. Jeffersonians cannot. Jefferson himself ended up using the Navy he once opposed to fight Barbary pirates in an undeclared war (thus something against his own supposed principles).

Just because one despises Wilsonians like Bush, Hillary Clinton and Biden who wanted to fight wars everywhere for 'muh democracy' does not mean that one automatically becomes a Jeffersonian peacenik. That ignores the long Jacksonian and Hamiltonian (sometimes called Madisonian) traditions of foreign policy that are more realist than idealist.

Posted by: the lower depths at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (+b4rY)

47 Deep staters probably gave Tulsi "wrong" information.. They're still entrenched in the Government...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (VE6XX)

48 Its funny the FNM tells me anyone that wants a ceasefire in the Uke war, where the Russians are winning is a Russian Fascist NAZI Bot, but that anyone that doesn't support an immediate ceasefire in the Iranian war, where Israel is winning, is a Christianist Fascist NAZI Bot

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (t0Rmr)

49 Once you're in a war, win it.
The time for half assing is over. Put the whole ass on it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (xcxpd)

https://tinyurl.com/3yadmw4p
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (bss/y)

Wow.
Quality pooper.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM

Cheeky lass.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (kgE5c)

50 Tucker's problem is that he's way overcompensating for the fact that he was a prominent cheerleader for the Iraq ever-wars. He's now with Jeffrey Sachs and folks like Madeline Albreit who think American Dominance is somehow a bad thing and that we should be taken down a notch for penance.

There's a difference between sticking your nose everywhere and not taking shit from anyone.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (bNf8H)

51 Trump is playing this perfectly, up to and including shitting on delusionals like Tucker.

The thing with Tulsi was manufactured. She didn't really say what the media claims she said. I would rather Trump have pointed that out, but otherwise his response was good. I'm not sure whether Tulsi is fully committed to doing what is necessary to Iran. So it might be best to marginalize her on the issue.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (iFTx/)

52 Once you're in a war, win it.
The time for half assing is over. Put the whole ass on it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo
......

Then plant your flag and own it. It's called "winning".

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (UjdFS)

53 Trump should quote some Megadeth at Iran.

"The quickest way to end the war is lose."

You could have peace by dinner if you really wanted it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (q6XPQ)

54 Tucker can kiss it.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (JUy4v)

55 Once you're in a war, win it.
The time for half assing is over. Put the whole ass on it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (xcxpd)

https://tinyurl.com/3yadmw4p
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (bss/y)

Dayum. Could definitely bounce a quarter off of that.

Posted by: And deez at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (TbWk/)

56 I really don't get the problem with Gabbard's answer to Congressional questioning.

Gabbard said it was the assessment of the intelligence community that "Iran is not currently building a nuclear weapon."

She also said: "Iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons."

All of that appears to be entirely accurate. Iran wasn't (and probably still isn't) 'currently building' a nuclear weapon. They very much were sprinting towards the capability to do so with every available resource, and every indicator is that they were trying to get to a place where they COULD be 'currently building' a nuclear wepon.

She may simply not have given enough thought to her phrasing. I'm willing to overlook it...this time.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (s8j++)

57 Keep ‘em guessing, you crazy guy!
Love that he’s done playing negotiations, the one thing these ME states could always count on is the American politicians craving a career-making deal.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (Hkcdp)

58 Everyone is describing the situation on the ground entirely differently. There is no consistency. The pro Israel right and the anti Israel right are following two completely different stories. You hear from one side Israel made a fatal gamble and the other side says Iran is days away from falling apart.

Posted by: Max Power at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (q177U)

59 Tucker Carlson is over, he can go spend time with Candace Owens, Jason Hinkle, and Nick Fuentes from now on.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (uWKK8)

60 Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (x69Nb)

Hey, WD. Taylor was here earlier.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (77rzZ)

61 Send John Kerry to negotiate!

Not an option. James Taylor is on vacation.
Posted by: Archimedes

Hillary. She's tanned. She's rested. And occasionally sober.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (NXz8h)

62 >>>Ace, i think that question about Gabbard was a set-up. She didn't say they do not have a weapons program, I think she said something like, "they aren't currently building a nuclear weapon."

Okay, thanks for the context. I didn't remember this exchange at all.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (KRtlO)

63 The CIA Assessment came to that conclusion because they didn’t believe Iran could get that material onto a warhead and capable platform. They were wrong. How do I know? Because several of the Smellies the IDF smoked were working on those capabilities.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (mFoqI)

64 That's the difference. Plus we know Ukraine isn't working together nukes.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (AcTAo)

They had them by the bucketfull and gave them up.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (FCbAQ)

65 It was the skunk stripe talking.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (UjdFS)

66 We're getting close to flaming ayatollah skull territory, aren't we?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

Oh mercy me. Do you think we are going to get a special flaming skull?? This would be tremendously cool of whomever makes the skulls.

Posted by: H at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (2gjbv)

67 Tulsi was reading the assessment from the Biden Administration.

Of course a bunch of useless twats are trying to divide the Trump Administration.

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (9mw3J)

68
Just because one despises Wilsonians like Bush, Hillary Clinton and Biden who wanted to fight wars everywhere for 'muh democracy' does not mean that one automatically becomes a Jeffersonian peacenik. That ignores the long Jacksonian and Hamiltonian (sometimes called Madisonian) traditions of foreign policy that are more realist than idealist.

A potential test for this - give me a realistic, positive outcome of any conflict that you want American to participate in that gives DIRECT benefits to the American people.

If your answer is muh democracies! you get a month in the box. ..

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (t0Rmr)

69 >>Trump should quote some Megadeth at Iran.

"The quickest way to end the war is lose."

As ALWAYS....

SLAYER did it Better:

WAR ENSEMBLE - https://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=jqnC54vbUbU

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (uZ2FS)

70 She may simply not have given enough thought to her phrasing. I'm willing to overlook it...this time.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (s8j++)

What should she have said?

She said 'they're not building a bomb right this minute, but they're damn sure trying to.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (lHAAk)

71 "lifetime babbler and non-productive-worker Tucker Carlson"

In all fairness, this applies to a large sector of Americans on both sides of the political aisle. I mean, if by "productive" you mean creating something in the physical world.

If Elon only bought Twitter and achieved nothing else besides giving us freedom of speech, I'd call that productive.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (w6EFb)

72 Once you're in a war, win it.
The time for half assing is over. Put the whole ass on it.
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Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (bss/y)

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Quality pooper.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM

Cheeky lass.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (kgE5c)
________

Dudes, that is so photoshopped the proportions aren't even close to right! I expect better. Do better. Thanks for your attention.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (iFTx/)

73 Trump is a Jacksonian and is always in favor of punching a bully in the nose

Which always stuns them. "That's just not how things are done!" A few more to go.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (BIMpQ)

74 62 >>>Ace, i think that question about Gabbard was a set-up. She didn't say they do not have a weapons program, I think she said something like, "they aren't currently building a nuclear weapon."

Okay, thanks for the context. I didn't remember this exchange at all.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (KRtlO)

======

No one but JD Vance seems to remember that the UN (specifically IAEA) said that Iran was out of alignment with their nuclear agreements and limitations on their enrichment progress the day before Israel struck.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (GBKbO)

75 It occurred to me yesterday that the diplomatic corps that normally handles relations between nation states is wildly out of their depth with respect to President Trump.

In their world, EVERYONE is a double-dealing, backstabbing weasel, regardless of what nation they represent, so they assume everyone is like them.

President Trump is a businessman who expects results at the end of the day. He's a man of his word, because that carries a great deal of weight in his world. People can trust him, knowing that he'll get the job done.

Diplomats HATE that because they can't understand it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (7fElN)

--

Ray Stantz: Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of college! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (x69Nb)

76 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (+qU29)

77 62 >>>Ace, i think that question about Gabbard was a set-up. She didn't say they do not have a weapons program, I think she said something like, "they aren't currently building a nuclear weapon."

If true, not as bad as the media is saying..... I do think that they were indeed building a nuke though...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (VE6XX)

78
Tucker Carlson vs. John Bolton, stripped to the waist and wrasslin' to determine interventionism / isolationism.

Broadcast live on ACE! TV.

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (j4U/Z)

79 Cool so with Iran out of the way there won't be any destabilizing forces in the region, and all the fake refugees can go back to their plots of sand around ther middle east, right? RIGHT?

Posted by: Rbastid at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (gzknm)

80 Posted by: Wenda at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (2EeNt)

Hey, Wenda. How're you doing?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (77rzZ)

81 It occurred to me yesterday that the diplomatic corps that normally handles relations between nation states is wildly out of their depth with respect to President Trump.

In their world, EVERYONE is a double-dealing, backstabbing weasel, regardless of what nation they represent, so they assume everyone is like them.
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Makes the Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne look halfway competent.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (6YdsJ)

82 It's going to be something when some Iranian terrorist blows himself up in a major American city and we find out he illegally immigrated during the Biden years but only became radicalized once Trump was in office.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (KbCG3)

83 TRUMP: I don't care what she said. I think they were very close to having them.
I'd consider that a shot across the bow to those in his administration who have sought to undermine him and push their own foreign policy goals in relation to Iran.
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It may be a shot across the bow but not necessarily at Tulsi.
Tulsi made the statement in March and pos Jennifer Griffin worked it into the present.

She did a good job as foreign correspondent in Israel years ago.
Since then she's sold her soul.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (Ffc+8)

84 Tulsi made it clear there is no daylight between her and POTUS. She also said her testimony is “once again” being misconstrued for political purposes.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (mFoqI)

85 73 Trump is a Jacksonian and is always in favor of punching a bully in the nose

Which always stuns them. "That's just not how things are done!" A few more to go.
Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (BIMpQ)

=======

The diplomatic apparatus of the western world is stupid

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)

86 Dudes, that is so photoshopped the proportions aren't even close to right! I expect better. Do better. Thanks for your attention.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Maybe they don't even know how to use photoshop.

Posted by: Stacey Abrams at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (FdyuK)

87 "Kooky Karlson"
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Kooky Kooky lend me your comb.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (L/fGl)

88 Like that he dismissed the Tulsi question- it was a gotcha. Don’t play the game, respond to current conditions

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (Hkcdp)

89 Hillary. She's tanned. She's rested. And occasionally sober.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions.
......

Those are liver spots.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (UjdFS)

90 Tucker Carlson is only following orders delivered by his DS handlers.

Tucker is a good little spook.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (Zi7KN)

91 Once you're in a war, win it.
The time for half assing is over. Put the whole ass on it.

The last time there was a negative consequence for fighting a war at full strength was...1951? And we've lost pretty much every conflict since then that we half assed.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (t0Rmr)

92 If true, not as bad as the media is saying..... I do think that they were indeed building a nuke though...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (VE6XX)

I put her actual quoted words in here.

The jist of it is: They aren't literally building a bomb at this moment, but they're doing their best to get to a place where they CAN build a bomb.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (lHAAk)

93 Hey, WD. Taylor was here earlier.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (77rzZ)

Really? Huh. Take that as a compliment to the Horde.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (x69Nb)

94 People are only against war when the other side is in charge, it seems.

Yeah, I know. I don't have all the answers on this one. Just pointing out what looks like a very common pattern. But don't let that stop anybody from calling me a liberal, coward, idiot, whatever here.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM (ERYKL)

95 Things moving really fast

Trump now calling for Unconditional Surrender
Bombers stationed on Diego Garcia
Pahlavi to speak to the Iranian people in an hour.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM (t/2Uw)

96 She may simply not have given enough thought to her phrasing. I'm willing to overlook it...this time.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (s8j++)

What should she have said?

She said 'they're not building a bomb right this minute, but they're damn sure trying to.'

That's probably better. Make it so simple even an eight year old knows exactly what you mean. Sure, the media, and some here, will still try to misconstrue it, but you do what you can.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM (s8j++)

97 Ray Stantz: Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of college! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (x69Nb)
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Exactly. To the "elites" diplomacy might as well be the boardgame of the same name. People and resources are simply game pieces. Sometime you win, sometimes you lose, but at the end of the day everyone goes home to get ready for the next round tomorrow. Nothing ever gets resolved because no one has any interest in long-term, permanent solutions. Where's the fun in that? Then the game is over!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM (7fElN)

98 91 Once you're in a war, win it.
The time for half assing is over. Put the whole ass on it.

The last time there was a negative consequence for fighting a war at full strength was...1951? And we've lost pretty much every conflict since then that we half assed.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 12:49 PM (t0Rmr)

RIP Douglas MacArthur.
Truman should have given him a-bombs and let him cook.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM (xcxpd)

99 We (the free world) are so close to getting what we want: a pile of dead mullahs and a free Iran

you don't take your foot off the gas until you cross the finish line

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM (AOsQT)

100 Cool so with Iran out of the way there won't be any destabilizing forces in the region

A new one must be invented! Quickly!

Posted by: Linsey Graham at June 17, 2025 12:51 PM (6bxmr)

101 This is not a hard logical progression. It's nothing he really promised, but it fits with who he is, what he's always said he believed, and how he behaves on the global stage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
=======
True dat.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 12:51 PM (ctrM5)

102 You put your whole ass in
You put your whole ass out...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 12:51 PM (6YdsJ)

103 Jennifer Griffin is another Harvard educated lib. Her husband is an NPR correspondent and former NYT reporter.

You really don’t need to know more…

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 12:51 PM (mFoqI)

104 One thing about Trump is that he doesn't bite his tongue. No one is safe.
Kooky Tucker Carlson. lol

Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 12:51 PM (NpAcC)

105 I decided Tucker was a flake when he told Rogan that demons and aliens were interdimensional beings that can freely go from one dimension to another. He also said he has no tv or computer and so no email address. But he seems to do an awful lot of tweeting, I guess using his smartphone.

Posted by: Megthered at June 17, 2025 12:51 PM (GOJbT)

106 "It's going to be something when some Iranian terrorist blows himself up in a major American city and we find out he illegally immigrated during the Biden years but only became radicalized once Trump was in office."

========

Yep, Tim Walz and Chris Murphy are going to blame MAGA rhetoric and ICE.

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 17, 2025 12:51 PM (9mw3J)

107 62 >>>Ace, i think that question about Gabbard was a set-up. She didn't say they do not have a weapons program, I think she said something like, "they aren't currently building a nuclear weapon."

Okay, thanks for the context. I didn't remember this exchange at all.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (KRtlO)

I think everyone who works for or with Trump should understand that he's going to pop off with something that sounds insulting if he's temporarily employed - that's just the New York in him, always has been. But if the person takes it and goes on without freaking out, everything can get back to normal. Hell I have some friends where we have a relationship like that (but it's a lot more difficult with women)

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 12:51 PM (uWKK8)

108 The DNI making such a foolish declaration should have been grounds for dismissal. Seriously, Tulsi, WTF?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (wzAuc)
-

Sarah Ferris
@sarahnferris
2h

DNI Gabbard tells us she and Trump are “on the same page” when it comes to Iran nuclear timeline

“Pres Trump was saying the same thing that I said in my annual threat assessment back in March. Unfortunately too many people in the media don't care to actually read what I said”

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 12:51 PM (n+rGF)

109 "Look, Tucker, we need to be pals with all the stuff going on. Look; next time you're in Ukraine let me know, and I'll send a pallet of cash to you. Just hang out by the airport! Away from people, so no one knows what's going on. Love ya! Bye!"

Posted by: Intercepted POTUS 47 conversations at June 17, 2025 12:52 PM (Ft5W9)

110 14 comments before boobs are mentioned. Progress.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (Dv3i1)

--

Meh. Not an art thread.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 12:52 PM (wzAuc)

111 Chuck Martel that's staying on topic

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 12:52 PM (+qU29)

112 Pahlavi to speak to the Iranian people in an hour.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM

Be a real shame if that broadcast were...interrupted.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 12:52 PM (kgE5c)

113 People are only against war when the other side is in charge, it seems.

Trump isn't talking about drafting Americans or starting a nuclear war with another nuclear power like the lefties were with Russia.

Also, Iran has been killing Americans for decades - seeing a third party kick their asses should get support from any American...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 12:52 PM (t0Rmr)

114 78
Tucker Carlson vs. John Bolton, stripped to the waist and wrasslin' to determine interventionism / isolationism.

Broadcast live on ACE! TV.
Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (j4U/Z)

I didn't vote for this.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:52 PM (xcxpd)

115
Makes the Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne look halfway competent.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
=====
Bonus points for Retief mention. Laumer was a veteran of WWII and became a diplomat. He knew of what he spoke.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 12:53 PM (ctrM5)

116 Wow.
Quality pooper.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM

Cheeky lass.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (kgE5c)

I am not usually an ass man. But a well shaped behind is nice.

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Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:53 PM (bss/y)

117 Good post Ace. Sidenote. I am done going to Gateway Pundit. There's so many freaking antisemites over there. Fck them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 12:53 PM (ewjUl)

118 I'm just trying to imagine what this would look like with Kamala in the presidency.. Or Biden... Trump calls a 3 AM defense meeting after spending all day at the G 7... Kamala would be in a drunken stupor and Joe ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:53 PM (VE6XX)

119 Trump now on X: "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!"

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 17, 2025 12:53 PM (bNf8H)

120 Sure, the media, and some here, will still try to misconstrue it, but you do what you can.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM (s8j++)

That's a fair point.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 12:53 PM (lHAAk)

121 With movement of US assets and Trumps rhetoric, it appears a major attack is imminent.
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It'll be interesting tracking DC pizza sales tonight...

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (TN0g+)

122 She may simply not have given enough thought to her phrasing. I'm willing to overlook it...this time.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:46 PM (s8j++)

What should she have said?

She said 'they're not building a bomb right this minute, but they're damn sure trying to.'
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (lHAAk)
_______

That is basically what she said if you read her full response. Ever since the WMD fiasco in Iraq, all the questioning of Trump's people have been gotcha bullshit trying to elicit unequivocal statements of Iran's (or whoever's) capabilities. The object is obviously later to say "Trump lied, people died." So all of his people have to be extra careful and measured what they say. That's what Tulsi did. And they still twisted it and lied about it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (iFTx/)

123 He also reiterated that Iran was "very close" to having a nuclear weapon before the strikes, and vowed again that Iran would not be permitted to have one.
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Yup. Iran flew too close to the sun.

Instead they will be a lesson for any other enemy who thinks about pursuing nuclear weapons. You won't get there. And the attempt will cost you everything.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (Dnobf)

124 Things moving really fast

Trump now calling for Unconditional Surrender
Bombers stationed on Diego Garcia
Pahlavi to speak to the Iranian people in an hour.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Not surprised. President Trump gave the mullahs an untenable choice from their point of view. That led right into the predicate that if they don't accept the first predicate, getting rid of all nuclear capability, he's going to blow them up. All this talk about negotiations and stuff. It's so Tucker's feelings aren't hurt.

So who makes the first move to overthrow the mullas? The Revolutionary guard or the military led by the shah in exile?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (NXz8h)

125 113 People are only against war when the other side is in charge, it seems.

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Ever thus. Wars of choice rather than necessity (being attacked) are always political issues.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (ctrM5)

126 Trump also made another pitch to have Russia rejoin the “G8”.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (mFoqI)

127 Tucker Carlson vs. John Bolton, stripped to the waist and wrasslin' to determine interventionism / isolationism.

Broadcast live on ACE! TV.
Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (j4U/Z)

I didn't vote for this.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:52 PM (xcxpd)

Who would WANT to vote for that?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (bss/y)

128 We're getting close to flaming ayatollah skull territory, aren't we?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
......

complete with burning turban

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (v0R5T)

129
Tucker is a good little spook.
Posted by: kallisto
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High plausibility

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (Ffc+8)

130 > Tulsi made it clear there is no daylight between her and POTUS. She also said her testimony is “once again” being misconstrued for political purposes.
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People have been parsing the "Iran is/isn't building nuclear weapons" for years. The UN "nuclear watchdog," the IAEA claimed Iran had enriched way more Uranium to a much higher degree than they let on. Enough for (in their words) up to a dozen bombs. In weeks. Not months or years.

They were certainly going to build them. They were certainly going to use them. The only question was whether they'd work as advertised.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (Q4IgG)

131 >Be a real shame if that broadcast were...interrupted.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Pahlavi's one of the good guys here

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (AOsQT)

132 The DNI making such a foolish declaration should have been grounds for dismissal. Seriously, Tulsi, WTF?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 12:44 PM (wzAuc)
-

Sarah Ferris
@sarahnferris
2h

DNI Gabbard tells us she and Trump are “on the same page” when it comes to Iran nuclear timeline

“Pres Trump was saying the same thing that I said in my annual threat assessment back in March. Unfortunately too many people in the media don't care to actually read what I said”
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 12:51 PM (n+rGF)

--

I stand chastised.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (wzAuc)

133 How about that cease fire and no nukes shit: North Korea. The Kims wore out the Soviets and have about worn out the Red Chinese. They still have crime and the UN. And end to moslem terror sounds better all the time.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (QSrLX)

134 Internet completely down now in Iran.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (t/2Uw)

135 No boots on the ground for the US for me. Mostly because I don't believe the US government has been cleaned up to the point where we will be allowed to win a war. That does not mean we cannot support an ally in war.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (fgmuN)

136 We still need to see Tulsi's rack, maybe in a cage match with Luna.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (sRoQh)

137 That is basically what she said if you read her full response. Ever since the WMD fiasco in Iraq, all the questioning of Trump's people have been gotcha bullshit trying to elicit unequivocal statements of Iran's (or whoever's) capabilities. The object is obviously later to say "Trump lied, people died." So all of his people have to be extra careful and measured what they say. That's what Tulsi did. And they still twisted it and lied about it.

Posted by: Elric Blade

No argument. Just TBC, I'm a big Tulsi fan, so I'm not trying to pile on.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:56 PM (s8j++)

138 126 Trump also made another pitch to have Russia rejoin the “G8”.
Posted by: Marcus T
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And to negotiate between Iran and Israel.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:56 PM (Ffc+8)

139 134 Internet completely down now in Iran.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (t/2Uw)

I thought Musk was extending his free trial Starlink for Iran?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:56 PM (bss/y)

140 >>DNI Gabbard tells us she and Trump are “on the same page” when it comes to Iran nuclear timeline

Tucker is going to have to take Gabbard out of his Spank Bank, now.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 12:56 PM (uZ2FS)

141 127 Tucker Carlson vs. John Bolton, stripped to the waist and wrasslin' to determine interventionism / isolationism.

Broadcast live on ACE! TV.
Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 12:48 PM (j4U/Z)

I didn't vote for this.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:52 PM (xcxpd)

Who would WANT to vote for that?!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (bss/y)

Nick Fuentes?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:56 PM (xcxpd)

142 The Trump Approach (TM) is the one I voted for.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 12:56 PM (tT6L1)

143 126 Trump also made another pitch to have Russia rejoin the “G8”.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (mFoqI)

Actually he said they shouldn't have tossed them out in the first place but not it's too late for them to put him back.. Said they shouldn't have made him the enemy... I agree...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:56 PM (VE6XX)

144 So who makes the first move to overthrow the mullas? The Revolutionary guard or the military led by the shah in exile?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
========
Whoever has the enough power to thwart a civil war. Otherwise you get a situation like Libya after Quadaffi.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (ctrM5)

145 If Americans get dragged into a war and start dying Republicans are going to lose the midterms and trump along with other trumpers in his administration will be going to jail. If Israel can knock out the Iranian leadership great, if they are as hated as everyone keeps saying why risk hitting civilians? The civilians should be able to take it from here no?

Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (k8QNH)

146 The same guys n' gals that can hoax up pagers into Grim Beepers and denut Hamassholes across the region and I'm supposed to believe that:

-They can't get their grubbies on a couple of bunker busters? What, we didn't leave a few in Afghanistan when Joey Bye-Bye did the bug-out boogie?

-Ditto with something with enough lift to fly it over Ayatollah Gardens and make with the boom? When they pretty much have air superiority?

I guess it's just supposed to be a surprise.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (Ft5W9)

147 Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (sRoQh)

"We?" I don't .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (2GCMq)

148 Tucker Carlson vs. John Bolton, stripped to the waist and wrasslin' to determine interventionism / isolationism.

I never realized that was pretty up on my list of "shit I never want to see" until just now.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (t0Rmr)

149 They were certainly going to build them. They were certainly going to use them. The only question was whether they'd work as advertised.

Anyone who argues with this is not a serious person.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (s8j++)

150 Internet completely down now in Iran.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (t/2Uw)

No more cat videos! During Pride Month too!

Shame.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (x69Nb)

151 Actually he said they shouldn't have tossed them out in the first place but not it's too late for them to put him back.. Said they shouldn't have made him the enemy... I agree...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:56 PM (VE6XX)

"now" not not..

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (VE6XX)

152 Vivid.🇮🇱
@VividProwess
🚨BREAKING: USAF B-52 Bombers are now at Diego Garcia Base on the Indian Ocean island, within flying range of Iran, according to Pentagon sources.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (t/2Uw)

153 Nick Fuentes?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:56 PM (xcxpd)

Which one is that? Is he the one who drops N bombs all the time or the one who looks like a gay Ricky Martin?

Gayer.

Well, maybe just as gay.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (bss/y)

154 A potential test for this - give me a realistic, positive outcome of any conflict that you want American to participate in that gives DIRECT benefits to the American people.

Iran has long, reportedly, been the chief instigator of anti-American terrorist activity. I have no issues with minor US involvement in spanking Iran. I have no issues with minor US involvement in removal of the Ayatollahs from power along with a stern "don't make me come back" to whomever replaces them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (ExV1e)

155 143 126 Trump also made another pitch to have Russia rejoin the “G8”.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (mFoqI)

Actually he said they shouldn't have tossed them out in the first place but not it's too late for them to put him back.. Said they shouldn't have made him the enemy... I agree...
Posted by: It's me donna
=========
Separating Russia from Iran and China requires giving them a bone.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (ctrM5)

156 basically Tucker and the hyper-isolationists are demanding that Trump do what Obama did -- intervene to SAVE the Iranian theocracy.

One does begin to wonder why they would make that a priority.

Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (KRtlO)

157 >>Internet completely down now in Iran.

The Goats of OnlyFans, Hardest Hit.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (uZ2FS)

158 The Trump of competitive eating.

Legendary Competitive Eater Joey Chestnut Returns to Coney Island for Nathan’s Hot Dog Contest Following Ban

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (L/fGl)

159 The nuclear inspection arm of the UN, I think it was, threw up its hands and pretty much said they were done with Iran due to their constant lying about their nuclear program.

As insty put it, "If you've lost the UN....."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (tT6L1)

160 Not even Biden could get American boots in Ukraine, and the whole bipartisan world of the military industrial complex desperately wanted that to happen.

It seems...doubtful that Trump decides to put American boots on the ground in Iran.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

161 Be a real shame if that broadcast were...interrupted.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Pahlavi's one of the good guys here
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM

Sorry - brain cramp. I'm multitasking.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (kgE5c)

162 Anyone remember the Persian students complaining about Savak while behaving like monkeys on a banana boat? The Tri Delts would blush. Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (QSrLX)

163 @VividProwess
🚨BREAKING: USAF B-52 Bombers are now at Diego Garcia Base on the Indian Ocean island, within flying range of Iran, according to Pentagon sources.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 12:57 PM (t/2Uw)

Were gonna drop the MOAB's

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (VE6XX)

164 Makes the Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne look halfway competent.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
=====
Bonus points for Retief mention. Laumer was a veteran of WWII and became a diplomat. He knew of what he spoke.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 12:53 PM (ctrM5)

Really good, really funny series.
Any moron would enjoy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (xcxpd)

165 If Americans get dragged into a war

Its a long cold wet walk from Tehran to Memphis

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (t0Rmr)

166 If Americans get dragged into a war and start dying Republicans are going to lose the midterms and trump along with other trumpers in his administration will be going to jail.

Your concern is noted.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (s8j++)

167 Kooky Kooky lend me your comb.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Sadly, Edd Byrnes passed on in 2020.

Posted by: 77 Sunset Strip at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (G5+As)

168 Iran claiming the internet is down due to a cyberattack but it comes right after Pahlavi, the King of Iran, announces a speech in an hour right after Trump calls for Unconditional Surrender.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (t/2Uw)

169 "Trump has never signed on to the hyper-isolationist's platform"

Good. Neither did I or a lot of Americans. No one wants another war, but the idea of the MOTHERFUCKING IRANIANS have a nuke is so horrifying I don't even want to think about it. Russia is mostly a rational actor and NK is a dysfunctional basket case state. Iran has a global network of kill crazy proxies who would absolutely detonate a dirty bomb in Manhattan is given the chance.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (f70Xg)

170 156 basically Tucker and the hyper-isolationists are demanding that Trump do what Obama did -- intervene to SAVE the Iranian theocracy.

One does begin to wonder why they would make that a priority.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (KRtlO)

How about 'no'?

They can 'save' themselves any time they want.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (bss/y)

171 Separating Russia from Iran and China requires giving them a bone.

perfectly stated

and btw, Iran is simply a satrapy of China

this is a single war

with China

I used to say the US was also a satrapy; and sectors of the US definitely are, but we are trying to separate

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (Pv3Rg)

172 Internet completely down now in Iran.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
......

Goat pron sites hardest hit.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 01:00 PM (v0R5T)

173 I read somewhere that the B-52 bombers were necessary to drop Bunker Buster bombs and that the Israelis didn;t have any.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 01:00 PM (t/2Uw)

174 Separating Russia from Iran and China requires giving them a bone.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (ctrM5)0

True.. The agreeing I was doing was they shouldn't have made Russia the enemy...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 01:00 PM (VE6XX)

175 Were gonna drop the MOAB's

hells to the yeah donna!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 01:01 PM (Pv3Rg)

176 >> Separating Russia from Iran and China requires giving them a bone.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 12:58 PM (ctrM5)

There are a lot of people in Russian leadership who are not happy with the China relationship. They don’t trust them- and they shouldn’t. Russia is also losing substantial influence in the ME. With Syria gone and now Iran, plus their client states, it’s the dawn of a new age.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 01:01 PM (mFoqI)

177 145 If Americans get dragged into a war and start dying Republicans are going to lose the midterms and trump along with other trumpers in his administration will be going to jail. If Israel can knock out the Iranian leadership great, if they are as hated as everyone keeps saying why risk hitting civilians? The civilians should be able to take it from here no?
Posted by: Whirligiginator

Aerial war is a bit different in political consequences than occupation. Had GWB ended the second Gulf War without extended occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan trying to convert them into a democracy, the GOP would not have suffered much if at all politically.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:01 PM (ctrM5)

178 Separating Russia from Iran and China requires giving them a bone.
--------------
Yep. China and Dems in deep shit. Too bad, really.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 01:01 PM (FmapG)

179 REAKING: USAF B-52 Bombers are now at Diego Garcia Base on the Indian Ocean island, within flying range of Iran, according to Pentagon sources.

Honest question: Why would you use a B-52 and not a stealthy B-21 of B-2? Yes, Iran's air defense system has been degraded, but in this case, you'd need to fly almost directly over Fordow or other targets, because you can't launch a MOP from far away.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:01 PM (s8j++)

180 Trump has ratcheted up leverage in every way possible. And he's given the Mullahs a Donfather offer they can't refuse so to speak. You might as well announce he's got the B2s in the air.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 01:01 PM (NXz8h)

181 165 If Americans get dragged into a war

Its a long cold wet walk from Tehran to Memphis
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM (t0Rmr)

CC: Mark Cohn

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 01:01 PM (xcxpd)

182 IMO, the 'hyper-isolationists' on X are mostly bots.

It's long past time to kick Jimmy Carter's mistake into the ash heap, AND smash the web of betrayal that Obama weaved.

There will be NO PEACE until The Twelvers that have been tormenting & exploiting Iran are history...finish them rightly, Trump.

Make Persia Great Again.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2025 01:01 PM (XjTSo)

183 Paul A. Szypula
@Bubblebathgirl
New York City’s comptroller, mayoral candidate Brad Lander, arrested at immigration court for interfering with ICE.

Nobody is above the law.

https://tinyurl.com/vzjwzezp

Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 01:02 PM (NpAcC)

184
Amichai Stein@AmichaiStein1 . 6m
This is a very significant statement from the Vice President: shows that Trump is close to a decision - either a deal or a bomb

JD Vance@JDVance . 33m
Look, I'm seeing this from the inside, and am admittedly biased towards our president (and my friend), but there's a lot of crazy stuff on social media, so I wanted to address some things directly on the Iran issue:

First, https://tinyurl.com/w3buc8en

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 01:02 PM (Ffc+8)

185 There are a lot of people in Russian leadership who are not happy with the China relationship. They don’t trust them- and they shouldn’t. Russia is also losing substantial influence in the ME. With Syria gone and now Iran, plus their client states, it’s the dawn of a new age.
Posted by: Marcus T
========
Putin is more of a realist than Xi.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:02 PM (ctrM5)

186 The DNI making such a foolish declaration should have been grounds for dismissal. Seriously, Tulsi, WTF?

I'm open to the possibility of it having been a strategic, um, "misdirection." The other thing to remember is that the Director is not personally gathering information. He can only assess the information that his subordinate officers bring him and we know, or at least strongly believe, that the Deep State remains entrenched in the staff.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2025 01:02 PM (/y8xj)

187 If we drop anything it’s going to be MOP’s on nuke sites.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 01:02 PM (mFoqI)

188 Too slow once again.

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 01:03 PM (v0R5T)

189 Trump now on X: "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!"
Posted by: Frasier Crane
-----

I endorse that as a goal, but not so much as an overtly expressed policy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2025 01:03 PM (XeU6L)

190 Good. Neither did I or a lot of Americans. No one wants another war, but the idea of the MOTHERFUCKING IRANIANS have a nuke is so horrifying I don't even want to think about it. Russia is mostly a rational actor and NK is a dysfunctional basket case state. Iran has a global network of kill crazy proxies who would absolutely detonate a dirty bomb in Manhattan is given the chance.
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 12:59 PM

Same here. Don't post that over at Gateway Pundit. there's some racist antisemite shitbags over there.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:03 PM (ewjUl)

191 111 Chuck Martel that's staying on topic
Posted by: Skip

I stand corrected. Carry on.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 01:03 PM (Dv3i1)

192 168 Iran claiming the internet is down due to a cyberattack but it comes right after Pahlavi, the King of Iran, announces a speech in an hour right after Trump calls for Unconditional Surrender.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
------------------

Thought Trump wants them dead.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 01:03 PM (Ffc+8)

193 I read somewhere that the B-52 bombers were necessary to drop Bunker Buster bombs and that the Israelis didn;t have any.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 01:00 PM (t/2Uw)

The really big one needs a B2. There are smaller ones that can be dropped from an F-15 though.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 01:03 PM (x69Nb)

194 I remain amazed that Turkey has stayed quiet throughout this entire episode.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 01:03 PM (uZ2FS)

195 I bet they find the enriched centrifuges right next to Saddam's WMDs.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at June 17, 2025 01:03 PM (/4+8Z)

196 DIME

Peace Through Strength

Deterrence

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 01:04 PM (2Rbgs)

197 When Trump says an end, he means the end of the mullacracy in Iran.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 17, 2025 01:04 PM (pohLc)

198 Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2025 01:02 PM (/y8xj)

Gabbard said it was the assessment of the intelligence community that "Iran is not currently building a nuclear weapon."

She also said: "Iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons."

All of that appears to be entirely accurate. Iran wasn't (and probably still isn't) 'currently building' a nuclear weapon. They very much were sprinting towards the capability to do so with every available resource, and every indicator is that they were trying to get to a place where they COULD be 'currently building' a nuclear wepon.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 01:04 PM (lHAAk)

199 Honest question: Why would you use a B-52 and not a stealthy B-21 of B-2? Yes, Iran's air defense system has been degraded, but in this case, you'd need to fly almost directly over Fordow or other targets, because you can't launch a MOP from far away.
Posted by: Archimedes
=========
Show of force or misreporting. B-2's were already reported to be at Diego Garcia as well as some reports of B-1's.

This may be a situation where reporters make Glocks synonymous with all handguns.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:04 PM (ctrM5)

200 186 The DNI making such a foolish declaration should have been grounds for dismissal. Seriously, Tulsi, WTF?
------------

She said it in March.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 01:04 PM (Ffc+8)

201 The Iranian regime has always had to buy expertise, rather than come up with it themselves. They are kind of morons like that. (present company excepted).

I mean, this is a regime that didn't find an IDF drone factory in a Tehran office building.

IMO any Iranian nuke could be a 50/50 dud. But, let's not find out.

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:04 PM (AOsQT)

202 Also, it bears repeating that then candidate Trump was asked what the biggest threat to the economy was. He didn't say inflation, or debt, or unemployment. He said "Nuclear war".

He's absolutely serious about avoiding nuclear war by dialing things back with Russia, and preventing Iran from getting to the point that they could inflict it.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 01:04 PM (Dnobf)

203 People are only against war when the other side is in charge, it seems.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM (ERYKL)

As was stated in the previous thread "... different conflicts with different motivations and different strategic considerations for us."

I am opposed to US involvement in the Russia / Ukraine thing. I am opposed because Russia isn't our enemy, Ukraine isn't our ally, and we pretty much set up the entire conflict in the first place. Precisely zero of those things is true where Israel / Iran is concerned.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 01:04 PM (ExV1e)

204 still love Tulsi

we knew ages ago - I think they even said it! - the the left's play was going to be to go after the cabinet

don't let it work

it's dumb anyway

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 01:05 PM (Pv3Rg)

205 I am old enough to remember in 2015 when Trump won the R nomination in a very crowded field with two dramatic policy breaks from the R party.

1) building a wall on our southern border and stopping massive illegal immigration
And
2) that the Iraq war was a mistake and the intel agencies lied about WMDs to start a war and that our leaders were stupid for getting involved in endless wars.

Annnnd here we are with WMDs in Iraq part two not even ten years later. And it seems no one has learned anything and Trump is now parroting the talking points. How long until the Iranian people welcome us as liberators in the streets of Tehran? Lets see if dick cheney will come back from the D side to sell us on another middle eastern war that never ends and results in no victory. In fact we should see if condi rice and Colin Powell and the gang are still alive and get the band back together.

For fucks sake.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:05 PM (zuAlv)

206 All of that appears to be entirely accurate. Iran wasn't (and probably still isn't) 'currently building' a nuclear weapon. They very much were sprinting towards the capability to do so with every available resource, and every indicator is that they were trying to get to a place where they COULD be 'currently building' a nuclear wepon.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
===========
I can tell you have experience in parsing bureaucratic language to decipher the Subtext.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:05 PM (ctrM5)

207 >> Putin is more of a realist than Xi.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:02 PM (ctrM5)

I think he’s a bit of a megalomaniac. He believes in conquest and Ukraine was just an excuse to do what he’s already been doing. That’s why his demands to end the war look more like a hostage list of demands. So in that regard- no.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 01:05 PM (mFoqI)

208 golly, be a real shame if a GBU-57 or two just happened to fall out of a plane over Fordow (I thought it was Natanz?) ... y'know, all accidental like ... and then it happened again the next day just to bounce the rubble extra good ...

with no press conferences, no nothin', not even a Bart Simpson "I didn't do it". just somehow it appears as though there's now a 2 kilometer deep pit where that facility used to be.
Huh, imagine that! Whodathunkit?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 01:05 PM (/Ghsb)

209 JD Vance@JDVance . 33m
Look, I'm seeing this from the inside, and am admittedly biased towards our president (and my friend), but there's a lot of crazy stuff on social media, so I wanted to address some things directly on the Iran issue:

First, https://tinyurl.com/w3buc8en
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 01:02 PM (Ffc+

Link does not contain a hot chick's ass but does have good information. I hope J. D. Vance has a long, happy political career in front of him.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 01:05 PM (xcxpd)

210 Make it so simple even an eight year old knows exactly what you mean.

It was Congressional testimony. That might still be too advanced.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 01:05 PM (ExV1e)

211 Iran has been tormenting the world for 50 years. Fomenting revolutions, terrorism, etc. It is now time for that to end.

What that means is hard to say, but at the moment, Israel has unfettered access to Iranian skies and can bomb anything they please.

So, take out the trash. At least take another week

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 01:06 PM (gDhA9)

212 185 There are a lot of people in Russian leadership who are not happy with the China relationship. They don’t trust them- and they shouldn’t. Russia is also losing substantial influence in the ME. With Syria gone and now Iran, plus their client states, it’s the dawn of a new age.
Posted by: Marcus T
========
Putin is more of a realist than Xi.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:02 PM (ctrM5)

Just looking at history, Russia should never trust China.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 01:06 PM (2Rbgs)

213 Speaking of Turkey, it seems the US actually told Turkey about the attacks before Israel started:

https://is.gd/uGpqhZ

That Turkey and Iran are different types of Muslim probably helped Turkey decide, "Yeah, fuck Iran."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)

214 Trump should quote some Megadeth at Iran.

"The quickest way to end the war is lose."

You could have peace by dinner if you really wanted it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (q6XPQ)

Offer unconditional surrender. I'm sure Trump and Israel would take it.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 01:06 PM (Dnobf)

215 Be a real shame if that broadcast were...interrupted.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 12:52 PM (kgE5c)

Pahlavi may be the closest thing to a good guy, as far as Iranians go. Hear him out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 01:06 PM (VWiqT)

216 >>For fucks sake.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:05 PM (zuAlv)

You sound like you need a Snickers and a Midol.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 01:06 PM (uZ2FS)

217 Stealth bomber - stealth bomb.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 01:07 PM (gDhA9)

218 The grounds for the war in Iraq should never have been WMD - it should have been that Iraq was giving shelter to AQ and was directly engaged in attacks on America.

And of course the goal should have been to kill the Iraqi leadership, not bring them Western "democracy"

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:07 PM (t0Rmr)

219 I was never a Tucker Carlson fan in the same way I was never a Jonah Goldberg fan.

To be fair I pretty much don't like political pundits. Just some a lot less than others.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 01:07 PM (VofaG)

220 He sounds more & more BELLICOSE to me, from minute to minute almost.

I was surprised, borderline shocked, when he referred to the U.S. and Israel as "we"! "WE have complete air superiority over Iran."

Just a couple of days ago, he & his besties went to great lengths to differentiate what Israel was doing from what the U.S. was doing.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 01:08 PM (kd60y)

221 Also, it bears repeating that then candidate Trump was asked what the biggest threat to the economy was. He didn't say inflation, or debt, or unemployment. He said "Nuclear war".

He's absolutely serious about avoiding nuclear war by dialing things back with Russia, and preventing Iran from getting to the point that they could inflict it.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 01:04 PM (Dnobf)
--------------

I think President Trump mentioned brought up nuclear war during his appearance on Joe Rogan. Also, unlike the feckless idiots who infest DC, President Tump understands the Mullahs cannot be reasoned with.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 17, 2025 01:08 PM (tT6L1)

222 The Trump recession.

Michigan Only at 4% of Their 2023 EV Target

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 01:08 PM (L/fGl)

223 Just looking at history, Russia should never trust China.
----------------
China wants the Russian Far East in the worst kind of way.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 01:08 PM (FmapG)

224 Pahlavi to speak to the Iranian people in an hour.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM

Be a real shame if that broadcast were...interrupted.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 12:52 PM (kgE5c)

Why would we want to interrupt it? Pahlavi is the Shah, he provides the Iranian people a rallying point against the mullahs.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 01:08 PM (ExV1e)

225 213 Speaking of Turkey, it seems the US actually told Turkey about the attacks before Israel started:
______

And yet Britain was left out of the loop. Sucks to be that turd Starmer. I wonder what he was thinking in the vid included in the post above. He's the douche standing next to Trump at the G7 (formerly G

meeting.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 01:08 PM (Dv3i1)

226 Supporting the Mullahs over the King in Iran was one of the biggest foreign policy mistakes in American history

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:08 PM (t0Rmr)

227 >Make Persia Great Again.
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because Persian women are hot and the world needs to see them

https://tinyurl.com/4hb9e89f

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:08 PM (AOsQT)

228 Trump is not going to get an *end* to this conflict, it has been going on for over 2,000 years. And it will keep going on for the next 2,000 years or until islam is completely removed from the earth.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 01:09 PM (e5NfL)

229 Annnnd here we are with WMDs in Iraq part two not even ten years later. And it seems no one has learned anything and Trump is now parroting the talking points. How long until the Iranian people welcome us as liberators in the streets of Tehran? Lets see if dick cheney will come back from the D side to sell us on another middle eastern war that never ends and results in no victory. In fact we should see if condi rice and Colin Powell and the gang are still alive and get the band back together.

Who has said such a thing? I don't care what the Iranians think of me as long as they stop being such a bunch of genocidal lunatics. However, it's my guess that most of them would like to rejoin the civilized world, although that won't happen until the mullahs are toast.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:09 PM (s8j++)

230 What is the job that needs to be finished? Is that clear-cut?

Posted by: Oglebay at June 17, 2025 01:09 PM (MMp6W)

231 Annnnd here we are with WMDs in Iraq part two not even ten years later. And it seems no one has learned anything and Trump is now parroting the talking points. How long until the Iranian people welcome us as liberators in the streets of Tehran? Lets see if dick cheney will come back from the D side to sell us on another middle eastern war that never ends and results in no victory. In fact we should see if condi rice and Colin Powell and the gang are still alive and get the band back together.

For fucks sake.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Not quite. Comparison with Iraq is more apples and oranges. Saddam had no working reactor as does Iran, inadequate and aging delivery systems via missiles, and slight if any confirmed nuclear enrichment centrifuges.

Iran has confirmed it has centrifuges for enriching uranium specifically and has specifically rejected attempts to limit the degree of enriching well beyond that needed for nuclear fuel.

A lot of the WMD talk about Iraq was related more to chemical and perhaps biological weapons. Apparently from post war interviews, even a lot of Saddam's officers believed that they had them during the Second Gulf War.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:09 PM (ctrM5)

232 The grounds for the war in Iraq should never have been WMD - it should have been that Iraq was giving shelter to AQ and was directly engaged in attacks on America.

And of course the goal should have been to kill the Iraqi leadership, not bring them Western "democracy"
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:07 PM (t0Rmr)

There were 17 violations of the UN agreement which included more than just WMD violations.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 01:09 PM (VofaG)

233 he grounds for the war in Iraq should never have been WMD - it should have been that Iraq was giving shelter to AQ and was directly engaged in attacks on America.
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WMD was just one of seven reasons enumerated in the AUMF. One lefty columnist (Ignatius?) complained that Bush had "too many" reasons for going to war. History then got retconned.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 01:10 PM (6YdsJ)

234 192 - Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025

'Thought Trump wants them dead.'

The sane Iranians will sort that out themselves...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2025 01:10 PM (XjTSo)

235 NAACP Spurns President After Trump Earns Highest Black Support for GOP in Decades

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:10 PM (RHGPo)

236 Tucker is too caught up in his fixation with Israel as the source of all worldly woes to understand what Trump is trying to do.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 17, 2025 01:10 PM (x2CMu)

237 >Supporting the Mullahs over the King in Iran was one of the biggest foreign policy mistakes in American history

Posted by: 18-1
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Jimmy Carter's work

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:10 PM (AOsQT)

238
He's absolutely serious about avoiding nuclear war by dialing things back with Russia, and preventing Iran from getting to the point that they could inflict it.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 01:04 PM (Dnobf)

I still can't get over all the twitteridiots calling for nuclear war located in DC/NYC. Their argument? If we nuke Russia the Russians will be so fearful they'll back down immediately.

And when you'd point out, no, the response from Russia would be nuking YOU their answer was "his nukes don't even work"

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:10 PM (t0Rmr)

239 235 NAACP Spurns President After Trump Earns Highest Black Support for GOP in Decades
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:10 PM (RHGPo)

Of course they did...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (VE6XX)

240 230 What is the job that needs to be finished? Is that clear-cut?
Posted by: Oglebay
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Fordow enrichment plant. That is the nut toughest to crack on ending the mullah's nuclear dreams and Israel simply does not have the delivery systems to penetrate something like 200 m of rock. Think penetrating NORAD in Cheyenne Mountain for comparison.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (ctrM5)

241 228 Trump is not going to get an *end* to this conflict, it has been going on for over 2,000 years. And it will keep going on for the next 2,000 years or until islam is completely removed from the earth.
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*checks calendar*

Closer to 1400 if you mean the muzzies.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (Dv3i1)

242 A lot of military aircraft in the air stateside. Even an F5.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (P9gC0)

243 Get the band back up would need jurassic park science.
Save the resurrections for The Band.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (6cJKR)

244 because Persian women are hot and the world needs to see them

https://tinyurl.com/4hb9e89f

I mean, DAUYUM!

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (s8j++)

245
Xi is reportedly on his way out.

Even the CCP is getting scared of how Chynah is collapsing.

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (j4U/Z)

246 No Islamic theocracy shouldhave the ability to destroy civilization. They care nothing for human life. The goal of their religion is subjugation of the entire human race or die trying. Success or death equal. If you succeed in ruling the planet fine. If you don;t, go to Allah and collect your reward anyways. But Jihad is their way of life. Nothinig else matters. They cannot ever be in possession of a nuclear bomb.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (t/2Uw)

247 J.D. Vance writes well well. Most intelligent and articulate VP I have seen for a long time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (KrBYw)

248 Trump now on X: "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!"
Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 17, 2025 12:53 PM (bNf8H)

Well, shit, lol, he beat me to it.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (Dnobf)

249 NAACP Spurns President After Trump Earns Highest Black Support for GOP in Decades
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Our appeal is becoming more selective.
-NAACP

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (Dv3i1)

250 239 235 NAACP Spurns President After Trump Earns Highest Black Support for GOP in Decades
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:10 PM (RHGPo)

Of course they did...
Posted by: It's me donna
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Like the SPLC, the NAACP is a dying brand with newer generations and about as relevant as MSNBC nowadays.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (ctrM5)

251
You sound like you need a Snickers and a Midol.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 01:06 PM (uZ2FS)

How so? Because I think endless wars is a horrible thing morally is horrible for the American middle class and only serves to strengthen and enrich the deep state?

You know the things Trump was saying back in 2015 and 2016 and as recently as a year ago?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (zuAlv)

252 The young Shah should be kept 5 country miles away from ANYTHING Trump & Israel are doing or planning.

The late Shah is still about as popular as COVID was.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (kd60y)

253 I thought Musk was extending his free trial Starlink for Iran?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:56 PM (bss/y)

Gotta have a receiver for that though.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (ExV1e)

254 Annnnd here we are with WMDs in Iraq part two not even ten years later. And it seems no one has learned anything and Trump is now parroting the talking points.

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And what if all we do is drop a few bunker busters?

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (sX1BW)

255 > Honest question: Why would you use a B-52 and not a stealthy B-21 of B-2? Yes, Iran's air defense system has been degraded, but in this case, you'd need to fly almost directly over Fordow or other targets, because you can't launch a MOP from far away.
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The B-21 isn't operational yet.

The B-2 needs to "taken care of." Needs shelter or it's stealth coating deteriorates and there's only 4 of those shelters on DG. Plus, the BUFF's can carry more bombs than either the B-2 or B-1B's.

But the B-2 is (I think) the only aircraft that can deliver the "Massive Ordinance Penetrator" bunker buster.

Even if the warplan is to use the B-2 and MOP they'd either have to load one here in the states, fly it to Iran, drop it, and then either return here or land elsewhere. And you'd fly more than one, in case there was a mishap with one delivery system enroute.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (Q4IgG)

256 "And of course the goal should have been to kill the Iraqi leadership, not bring them Western "democracy""

Which is where everything went sideways. The US crushed the Hussein military in what, 5-6 weeks? Then tried to do the impossible and let the insurgency run wild. America is good at war but not so much on occupations.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (f70Xg)

257 246 No Islamic theocracy shouldhave the ability to destroy civilization. They care nothing for human life. The goal of their religion is subjugation of the entire human race or die trying. Success or death equal. If you succeed in ruling the planet fine. If you don;t, go to Allah and collect your reward anyways. But Jihad is their way of life. Nothinig else matters. They cannot ever be in possession of a nuclear bomb.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Too late, Pakistan has multiple atomic weapons plus delivery systems via missiles and aircraft. Last estimated count I saw was something like seventy or more.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)

258 There may or may not have been a unit that once rolled into an ancient village in Asia blasting Slipknot on the speaker…and a PAO just shaking her head.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 01:13 PM (mFoqI)

259 J.D. Vance writes well well. Most intelligent and articulate VP I have seen for a long time.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM

Agreed. As of now, he is my 2028 hopeful.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:13 PM (ewjUl)

260 135 No boots on the ground for the US for me. Mostly because I don't believe the US government has been cleaned up to the point where we will be allowed to win a war. That does not mean we cannot support an ally in war.
Posted by: Ryan Frank at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (fgmuN)

None for me because right now it will be a hindrance, not a help. I want to see Iran straighten itself out but that must be as organic as possible.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 01:13 PM (2Rbgs)

261 Fordow enrichment plant. That is the nut toughest to crack on ending the mullah's nuclear dreams and Israel simply does not have the delivery systems to penetrate something like 200 m of rock. Think penetrating NORAD in Cheyenne Mountain for comparison.

Just a quick note: I've seen estimates that Fordow is both 300' and 300 meters deep. I'll think we have to assume the latter.

The Fordow nuclear facility in Iran is situated approximately 80 to 90 meters (around 262 to 295 feet) beneath the ground, according to CNN. This depth is intended to provide protection from aerial bombardment.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:14 PM (s8j++)

262 >>> 183 Paul A. Szypula
@Bubblebathgirl
New York City’s comptroller, mayoral candidate Brad Lander, arrested at immigration court for interfering with ICE.

Nobody is above the law.

https://tinyurl.com/vzjwzezp
Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 01:02 PM (NpAcC)

Election Interference!

REEEEE!!!

Posted by: leftists at June 17, 2025 01:14 PM (ULPxl)

263 >>How so? Because I think endless wars is a horrible thing morally is horrible for the American middle class and only serves to strengthen and enrich the deep state?

Mostly because you sound like a Gender Studies Graduate Student on her Period.

I thought that was obvious from the Midol ref?

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 01:14 PM (uZ2FS)

264
Which is where everything went sideways. The US crushed the Hussein military in what, 5-6 weeks? Then tried to do the impossible and let the insurgency run wild. America is good at war but not so much on occupations.

Insurgents aren't too effective when you just level bomb the villages they are living in, instead of sending Private Joe to go get shot by them while he is trying to "arrest" terrorists.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:14 PM (t0Rmr)

265 'I remain amazed that Turkey has stayed quiet throughout this entire episode.' -- garrett at June 17, 2025 01:03 PM

Erdogan is not idiot; not attracting the lion's gaze is a smart move.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2025 01:14 PM (XjTSo)

266 251

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/132495976639377408

Trump has been quite consistent about Iran and nuclear weapons, almost as consistent as he's been about tariffs and trade.

Posted by: the lower depths at June 17, 2025 01:14 PM (+b4rY)

267 Miss Iran 2024

https://tinyurl.com/t8cedzwd

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (AOsQT)

268 @254

>>And what if all we do is drop a few bunker busters?

Bunker Busters are not going tog get it done, the facilities are too deep.

You need squadrons of attack Ocelots dropped in by Zeppelin's so that they can infiltrate and destroy these underground facilities.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (XV/Pl)

269 Who has said such a thing? I don't care what the Iranians think of me as long as they stop being such a bunch of genocidal lunatics. However, it's my guess that most of them would like to rejoin the civilized world, although that won't happen until the mullahs are toast.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:09 PM (s8j++)

Dick Cheney said that about Iraq. I assume it will be said about Iran if it hasnt already since the deep state is running almost exactly the same playbook here.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (zuAlv)

270
Enterprising media types (social or mainstream) should be in Beverly Hills right now. It's full of first-and second-generation Iranian refugees and I bet that tiny city is pulsing with excitement over the Pahlavis.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (wbZPZ)

271 245
Xi is reportedly on his way out.

Even the CCP is getting scared of how Chynah is collapsing.
Posted by: Auspex
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Mebbe, mebbe not. We used to speculate all the time about Kremlin leaders as who was up and down. I think deciphering Chinese power structures under CCP rule is far worse for outsiders and thanks to the CIA's network of spies being rolled up about a decade ago, we are essentially in the dark about such things.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

272 The Israel Defense Forces launched a strike on Saturday targeting the military leader of the Houthis, the Yemeni rebel group, according to multiple reports from Israeli media.

According to a report from the Jerusalem Post, Muhammad Abd al Karim al Ghamari, the chief of staff for the Houthis, was the main target of the strike. It is unclear at this time whether al Ghamari was killed in the attack.

... wonder how long before the Houthis get resupplied

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:16 PM (RHGPo)

273 Nobody is above the law.

Two Americas.

Grandma Jane protesting a stolen election gets beaten to death, corrupt pol interfering with the government stopping an invasion will get, at worst, a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:16 PM (t0Rmr)

274 The Pahlavi "princess" just married a Jew. If Iranians rally around the Shah, it could be the beginning of a real change in the Middle East.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 01:16 PM (t/2Uw)

275 115 - at least the CDT had a Jame Retief; all we have are Sternwheelers and Earlyworms ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 01:16 PM (/Ghsb)

276 247 J.D. Vance writes well well. Most intelligent and articulate VP I have seen for a long time.
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Since at least Nixon

Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (F/35S)

277 Mostly because you sound like a Gender Studies Graduate Student on her Period.

I thought that was obvious from the Midol ref?
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 01:14 PM (uZ2FS)

What a valuable counterpoint. I hadnt considered that angle.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (zuAlv)

278 Too late, Pakistan has multiple atomic weapons plus delivery systems via missiles and aircraft. Last estimated count I saw was something like seventy or more.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:13 PM

Pretty much everyone in that corner of the world either has Nukes or is working on getting them, sooner or later someone is going to pop one off when they get pi$$ed at their neighbor(s).

I just hope it doesn't escalate our way.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (e5NfL)

279 No boots on the ground for the US for me. Mostly because I don't believe the US government has been cleaned up to the point where we will be allowed to win a war. That does not mean we cannot support an ally in war.
Posted by: Ryan Frank at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM

That's about where I am at. Iran is responsible for thousands of Americans deaths and dismemberment. Just stay out of their way and let them borrow a B-2. Just have it back by 11:00 and fill the tank.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (ewjUl)

280 I hate when my family fights.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (x69Nb)

281 240 230 What is the job that needs to be finished? Is that clear-cut?
Posted by: Oglebay
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Fordow enrichment plant. That is the nut toughest to crack on ending the mullah's nuclear dreams and Israel simply does not have the delivery systems to penetrate something like 200 m of rock. Think penetrating NORAD in Cheyenne Mountain for comparison.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (ctrM5)

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Thank you. It is extremely helpful that the situation is so clearcut. Trump can tell Iran what the end result will be and the negotiations are to focus on how Iran would prefer to get there.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (MMp6W)

282 Dick Cheney said that about Iraq. I assume it will be said about Iran if it hasnt already since the deep state is running almost exactly the same playbook here.

Yeah, "I assume" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (s8j++)

283 The next one that needs to be rolled up is fat man in NK. That jackass just keeps lobbing shit into the ocean.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 01:18 PM (mFoqI)

284 Supporting the Mullahs over the King in Iran was one of the biggest foreign policy mistakes in American history
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:08 PM (t0Rmr)

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Sending Khomeni back to Iran was the second-most costly (in terms of lives and treasure) one way trip of the 20th century.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at June 17, 2025 01:18 PM (0iJw5)

285 Aerial war is a bit different in political consequences than occupation. Had GWB ended the second Gulf War without extended occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan trying to convert them into a democracy, the GOP would not have suffered much if at all politically.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:01 PM (ctrM5)

There might even have been some moderate success in converting them to a more democratic government if we hadn't tried to convert them to an equal rights for women, GloboHomo democracy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 01:18 PM (ExV1e)

286 274 The Pahlavi "princess" just married a Jew. If Iranians rally around the Shah, it could be the beginning of a real change in the Middle East.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 01:16 PM (t/2Uw)

Well the last two times the US / UK decided to do regime changes in Iran and install a Pahlavi as dictator worked out swell. So I think we should definitely try that again. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:18 PM (zuAlv)

287 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (zuAlv)

Then you just need to hide in a hole because endless wars is the default of humans. Micro and Macro.

From fist fights and gang wars to civil wars to country against country.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 01:18 PM (VofaG)

288 No boots on the ground for the US for me. Mostly because I don't believe the US government has been cleaned up to the point where we will be allowed to win a war. That does not mean we cannot support an ally in war.

That's where I am as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:18 PM (t0Rmr)

289 I remain amazed that Turkey has stayed quiet throughout this entire episode.' -- garrett

Erdogan is not idiot; not attracting the lion's gaze is a smart move.

Posted by: CPT. Charles

I think Erdogan wants to be the face of the Islamic Caliphate so taking out rival Iran for the title is in his best interests. But, he is a snake and should not be part of NATO.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 01:18 PM (t/2Uw)

290 The late Shah ran a dictatorship with SAVAK, his secret police force, doing pretty much what Khamenei's are doing.

You can't sell zh*t twice.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (kd60y)

291 How so? Because I think endless wars is a horrible thing morally is horrible for the American middle class and only serves to strengthen and enrich the deep state?

You know the things Trump was saying back in 2015 and 2016 and as recently as a year ago?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (zuAlv)

Wow. You sound like a Marxist AND an isolationist.

If you saw the parade on Saturday, were you overwhelmed with embarrassment and shame?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (2Rbgs)

292 267 Miss Iran 2024

https://tinyurl.com/t8cedzwd
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (AOsQT)

Gotta love that nose

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (xcxpd)

293 Just a quick note: I've seen estimates that Fordow is both 300' and 300 meters deep. I'll think we have to assume the latter.

The Fordow nuclear facility in Iran is situated approximately 80 to 90 meters (around 262 to 295 feet) beneath the ground, according to CNN. This depth is intended to provide protection from aerial bombardment.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Sounds reasonable and I suspect that the Israelis and perhaps now Trump knows exactly how far down it is and probably have layouts if not construction plans of it.

Israel seems to have totally penetrated Iranian society to the a degree that I have never seen in modern warfare. Perhaps the Soviets and Chinese have done it better with the West but we never have yet had a war with either when such was the case.

Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (ctrM5)

294 "Fordow enrichment plant. That is the nut toughest to crack on ending the mullah's nuclear dreams and Israel simply does not have the delivery systems to penetrate something like 200 m of rock. Think penetrating NORAD in Cheyenne Mountain for comparison."

*****

One hit may not take it out. What about five hits? Ten? Twenty?

No sarcasm, just curious if anyone with experience in that area of knowledge can chime in.

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (0fs9V)

295 Solving the Iranian problem means solving a LOT of other problems in the world. People have no idea all the crap they have been up to, all the bad guys they train and finance.

Oh, and let's be clear - Iran tried to have Trump assassinated. Thye dialed. Now it's time for everyone involved in that decision to die. Not out of vengeance, but to remind anyone else what that means.

Bounce the rubble I say.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (gDhA9)

296 Israel's purpose is not to liberate Iran but to eliminate the threat of nuclear war. However a secondary result of that will be the liberation of the Iranian people from its religious tyranny. Their fate will be up to them. Historically the Iranian people thrived by commerce and agronomy. They have a core of educated people that's be suppressed by theocracy.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (Ffc+8)

297 Most intelligent and articulate VP I have seen for a long time.

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Zombie John Adams would like to remind you that he was the most articulate VP ever.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (sX1BW)

298 Tulsi/Mace oil wrestling? It would be perfect if... Wait a minute! It's Ben Shapiro' sister off the top rope!

She's pummeling both with her Ashkenazi breasts....

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (wBaIH)

299
I think Erdogan wants to be the face of the Islamic Caliphate so taking out rival Iran for the title is in his best interests. But, he is a snake and should not be part of NATO.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 01:18 PM (t/2Uw)

Turkey and Canada should be kicked out of NATO.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 01:20 PM (2Rbgs)

300 You know the things Trump was saying back in 2015 and 2016 and as recently as a year ago?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (zuAlv)

Trump has also been saying - for just as long - that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

How does a nuclear-armed Iran benefit the American middle class?

I know a nuclear-armed Iran hurts the American middle class by continuing to target/kill American civilians and Service members around the world.

Explain how permitting a nuclear Iran will convey enough benefits to the American middle class so as to outweigh the terrorism Iran exports and dead Americans Iran creates.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 01:20 PM (lHAAk)

301 I think Erdogan wants to be the face of the Islamic Caliphate so taking out rival Iran for the title is in his best interests. But, he is a snake and should not be part of NATO.

Bingo on both counts.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:20 PM (s8j++)

302 256 "And of course the goal should have been to kill the Iraqi leadership, not bring them Western "democracy""

Which is where everything went sideways. The US crushed the Hussein military in what, 5-6 weeks? Then tried to do the impossible and let the insurgency run wild. America is good at war but not so much on occupations.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (f70Xg)

We did fairly well in Germany and Japan. But of course, they weren't filled with crazy arabs/Persians...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 17, 2025 01:20 PM (wtvvX)

303 President Donald Trump will not be invited to address the NAACP national convention next month in Charlotte, North Carolina. This is the first time the civil rights organization has excluded a sitting president in its 116-year history.

AP reports National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) president Derrick Johnson announced the move at a Monday afternoon press conference, accusing Trump of working against its mission.

.. I wonder what their mission is these days

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:20 PM (RHGPo)

304 >>What a valuable counterpoint. I hadnt considered that angle.

I wouldn't expect a woman in the throes of Hysteria to consider much that is sensible.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 01:21 PM (uZ2FS)

305 Well the last two times the US / UK decided to do regime changes in Iran and install a Pahlavi as dictator worked out swell. So I think we should definitely try that again. What could go wrong?

America's goal shouldn't be to choose the new leader of Iran. It should be to help Israel kill the current leadership and inflict enough pain that Iran as a whole doesn't want that type of leader again...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:21 PM (t0Rmr)

306 "@Bubblebathgirl
New York City’s comptroller, mayoral candidate Brad Lander, arrested at immigration court for interfering with ICE."

These ICE protetest/confrontation are becoming litmus test for rising Dems. It will be like "What were you doing during the civil right movement? Why weren't you arrested?"

For the Dems it's always the 60's

Posted by: Ripley at June 17, 2025 01:21 PM (+8Jw3)

307 267 Miss Iran 2024

https://tinyurl.com/t8cedzwd
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (AOsQT)

*****

Lovely. That can't have been taken in Iran though...Gotta be some group of exiles who did this.

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 01:21 PM (0fs9V)

308 >>> 245
Xi is reportedly on his way out.

Even the CCP is getting scared of how Chynah is collapsing.
Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 01:11 PM (j4U/Z)

Eh, I'll believe it when I see it, and I am one who has said they *will* collapse at some point. The problem being of course, when does that happen and what gets wrecked while they're sorting things out amongst themselves?

Posted by: leftists at June 17, 2025 01:21 PM (ULPxl)

309
NAACP Spurns President After Trump Earns Highest Black Support for GOP in Decades
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:10 PM (RHGPo)

This would be the same NAACP which was founded by a bunch of pasty white people around 1910 (along with WEB DuBois as the token negro). They didn't even have a black President of the organization until the mid-1970s.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 01:21 PM (y9nCu)

310 Hey I've heard [insert middle east shithole here] is trying to get weapons of mass destruction! Let's get an AUMF passed and hot tip buy RTX!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at June 17, 2025 01:21 PM (oyLnI)

311 I remain amazed that Turkey has stayed quiet throughout this entire episode.
Posted by: garrett

I think Erdogan's biding his time. If Iran falls, he becomes the Big Cheese in the ME once again. And he will pick up the mantle of jihad against Israel.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 01:21 PM (77rzZ)

312 JUST IN: President Trump is "SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING" a U.S. strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, particularly the Fordow Plant, which is built into a mountain, per reports

President Trump has just convened his National Security Council in the Situation Room and are meeting with them to determine the plan as we speak.

Apparently, the only option to knock out Fordow is dropping a bunker buster from a B2 Spirit, which only the US has.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 01:22 PM (t/2Uw)

313 >Supporting the Mullahs over the King in Iran was one of the biggest foreign policy mistakes in American history

Posted by: 18-1
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Jimmy Carter's work
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:10 PM

History's Greatest Monster.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 01:22 PM (jc0TO)

314 Carlson began to lose me awhile back when he began making cryptic, ominous comments about UFOs and how, when we learn all the information the government has, it may completely overturn everything we ever believed. And then came the revisionist history about Churchill and the anti-Semitic (or, at least, anti-Semitic-adjacent) jabs at Israel.

This guy had a golden opportunity when Fox canned him (or when he left on his own, I don't remember) to strike out on his own and really make a name for himself as an influential conservative. I am baffled as to how he got sidetracked into the loonier realms of conspiracy-thinking and bad history.

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 01:22 PM (mADJX)

315 Posted by: SH (no more socks) at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (sX1BW)

I'm no spring chicken., but I wasn't actually around for John Adams. 🌶️

However, from the television series I got to appreciate him quite a bit,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 01:22 PM (KrBYw)

316 .. I wonder what their mission is these days
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:20 PM (RHGPo)
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Overthrow the U.S.?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 01:22 PM (6YdsJ)

317 We did fairly well in Germany and Japan. But of course, they weren't filled with crazy arabs/Persians...

WWII killed something like a third of their young men.

I suspect if we had proceeded with a much more punitive means of war in Iraq we could have done the same but I still don't think that should have been the goal...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:23 PM (t0Rmr)

318 AP reports National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) president Derrick Johnson announced the move at a Monday afternoon press conference, accusing Trump of working against its mission.

.. I wonder what their mission is these days
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:20 PM

National Association of my wallet, honky!

Posted by: Derrick Sweet Dick Johnson at June 17, 2025 01:23 PM (ewjUl)

319 Democrat-run Chicago, Illinois, suspended a website Friday that allows people, no matter their immigration status, to obtain local government-issued IDs, after being subpoenaed by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:23 PM (RHGPo)

320 Afternoon Ace.
If the mullahs fall the US Chamber of Commerce should be happy. New markets, oil becoming cheaper. You'd think they would be chiming in . You'd also think the human rights crowd would be happy with the oppressive mullahs being gone
Hah, who am I kidding

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 01:23 PM (akw+7)

321 @294

>>One hit may not take it out. What about five hits? Ten? Twenty?

It's essentially 300 feet underneath a mountain, you could drop every bunker buster in the US arsenal and not dent it.

Again, unless you it can be STUXNETTED or some other means to take it out, the only way is up close and personnel, ie, Boots On The Ground.

Which could be accomplished with a Delta Strike Force.

They go in, bing-bang-boom, they go out, and that they end of that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:23 PM (XV/Pl)

322 You need squadrons of attack Ocelots dropped in by Zeppelin's so that they can infiltrate and destroy these underground facilities.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (XV/Pl)

Quokkas. There will be blood, fire, and rubble. Nothing else will remain.

Posted by: Utter annihilation at June 17, 2025 01:23 PM (TbWk/)

323 What's the issue weight?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 01:23 PM (P9gC0)

324 3h
17 US aerial refueling tankers are heading from Europe towards the @CENTCOM AOR, reports @AmichaiStein1.

👀Multiple squadrons of American fighter jets are also headed towards the Middle East, reports indicate.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 01:23 PM (Ffc+8)

325 Unfortunately too many people in the media don't care to actually read what I said"

Heh, you tell em, Tulsi!

Posted by: pookysgirl, actually literate at June 17, 2025 01:23 PM (Wt5PA)

326 Saddam and his government would have survived just an aerial war and we probably would have still been dealing with him 10 to 15 years later. And his sons.

Obama not entering into a force agreement led to ISIS imo.

Also Khaddafi did give up his nuke program though I don't know how viable that really was.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (VofaG)

327 You need squadrons of attack Ocelots dropped in by Zeppelin's so that they can infiltrate and destroy these underground facilities.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (XV/Pl)
_____

Otters

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (iFTx/)

328 >>I think Erdogan's biding his time. If Iran falls, he becomes the Big Cheese in the ME once again. And he will pick up the mantle of jihad against Israel.

Agreed. I would expect a bit more Saber Rattling out of him, though. He has never been shy about expressing his aspirations.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (uZ2FS)

329 No sarcasm, just curious if anyone with experience in that area of knowledge can chime in.
Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (0fs9V)
I can claim very little experience in conducting repeated bombing runs on the same target over a period of time.

This said, with enough patience and effort, well...

Seriously, the objective is to neutralize it, eg render it inoperable. Doesn't have to be ground to dust. Access points destroyed, air ventilation systems blocked, etc etc serve a purpose as important as physical damage to the target itself.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (x69Nb)

330 297 Most intelligent and articulate VP I have seen for a long time.

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Zombie John Adams would like to remind you that he was the most articulate VP ever.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (sX1BW)

Well, that's about as long as that time could be.

"Pardner, how long has it been since you had a big, steamin' bowl of Articulate Vice-President? Heh-heh! Well, that's too long!!!"

Posted by: WOLF BRAND VP at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (wtvvX)

331 280 I hate when my family fights.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (x69Nb)

It happens. Just try not to take it personally and hope everyone cools off after venting.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (xcxpd)

332 because Persian women are hot and the world needs to see them

https://tinyurl.com/4hb9e89f
Posted by: Don Blac

Jasmine Crockett called, and wants her false eyelashes back.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (77rzZ)

333 I think Erdogan's biding his time. If Iran falls, he becomes the Big Cheese in the ME once again. And he will pick up the mantle of jihad against Israel.

I don't expect the next BCitME to be pro-Israel but the experience of the current BCitME should give him a good reason to at least dial back on the jihad talk.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2025 01:25 PM (/y8xj)

334
Apparently, the only option to knock out Fordow is dropping a bunker buster from a B2 Spirit, which only the US has.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 01:22 PM (t/2Uw)

Couldn't we just let them borrow it....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 01:25 PM (VE6XX)

335 331 280 I hate when my family fights.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (x69Nb)

It happens. Just try not to take it personally and hope everyone cools off after venting.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (xcxpd)

========

"Or, just slap a bitch."
-Yasujiro Ozu

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

336 One hit may not take it out. What about five hits? Ten? Twenty? No sarcasm, just curious if anyone with experience in that area of knowledge can chime in. Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (0fs9V)

I was thinking the same thing. Also, hit it with a ballistic missile from Israel. Land a team and drill a hole - drop in explosives. Fly drones into vents.

Just hammer the egg till it cracks. By the by, want to guess whether the construction was good and up to code, or the usual Iranian garbage?

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 01:25 PM (gDhA9)

337 Trump Says He Won’t Phone ‘Whacked Out’ Tim Walz Over His Former Appointee Suspected of Murder

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:25 PM (RHGPo)

338 Hi! Just introducing the new thread. You know, b/c I commented here.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 17, 2025 01:25 PM (lPeS+)

339 Also Khaddafi did give up his nuke program though I don't know how viable that really was.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (VofaG)

Viability wasn't the point for me.

For me, the point was that Khadaffi saw what was happening around him and actively tried to get right with the US.

We should have encouraged that, thereby convincing OTHER national leaders to get right with us, so as to avoid the stick.

Instead, Hillary set him up to be killed, then crowed about it on live television.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 01:26 PM (lHAAk)

340 Which could be accomplished with a Delta Strike Force.

They go in, bing-bang-boom, they go out, and that they end of that.

into a facility 300 feet under a mountain inside a hostile country? that "go in" part may be a bit challenging. maybe they can get those ultra realistic masks from the IMF team

Posted by: brak at June 17, 2025 01:26 PM (jGJov)

341 "We did fairly well in Germany and Japan. But of course, they weren't filled with crazy arabs/Persians…”

No they weren’t, and they were completely broken by a total war being waged. Germany was a Western country that still contained some capacity for reason after Hitler’s death, and we only got half of that. And we nuked Japan.

Let’s not forget a major factor in why the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan got so bad was the country currently being pounded by the Israelis.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 01:26 PM (f70Xg)

342 This guy had a golden opportunity when Fox canned him (or when he left on his own, I don't remember) to strike out on his own and really make a name for himself as an influential conservative. I am baffled as to how he got sidetracked into the loonier realms of conspiracy-thinking and bad history.

he's a fucking flake

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 01:26 PM (Pv3Rg)

343 337 Trump Says He Won’t Phone ‘Whacked Out’ Tim Walz Over His Former Appointee Suspected of Murder
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:25 PM (RHG

The one the media is calling the MAGA killer ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 01:26 PM (VE6XX)

344 I think he’s a bit of a megalomaniac. He believes in conquest and Ukraine was just an excuse to do what he’s already been doing.

He's been the leader of Russia for 25 years now. He's attacked exactly two countries, Georgia and Ukraine, and both times it was over NATO efforts to add those countries.

It's one thing to dislike Putin but you start to sound a bit like someone holding on to the idea that Soviet forces will push through the Fulda Gap when you insist that he's all about conquest.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 01:26 PM (ExV1e)

345 Conservatives (Trump ) need to learn to say, "I don't respond to pundits, media, or others in my party; I only respond to heads of state."

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (PMtkd)

346 yes it seems the Miss Iran pageant happens in exile:

In recent years, the Miss Iran Awards have been held abroad, most notably in Santa Clara, California,

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (AOsQT)

347 339 We should have encouraged that, thereby convincing OTHER national leaders to get right with us, so as to avoid the stick.

Instead, Hillary set him up to be killed, then crowed about it on live television.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 01:26 PM (lHAAk)

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Killing Khadaffi was supposed to be the cornerstone of her 2016 run for president. Air strike a guy to death, utopia forms, female president.

It was her plan.

It didn't work for some reason. Probably the vast right wing conspiracy.

Yeah...that was it. The vast right wing conspiracy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

348 280 I hate when my family fights.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (x69Nb)

That's what families are for. Fighting, anger, rage, insults, denigration, abuse, and general dehumanization. In what other social structure are you permitted to do those things with relative impunity?

Posted by: Seriously where else you going to do it? at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (TbWk/)

349 Oddly enough, one of my recent Vince Flynn novels had this exact scenario happening with moles within the Iranian military being the ones taking out that complex.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (ewjUl)

350 The one the media is calling the MAGA killer ?

I still want to know the guy's source of income...his security firm, his NGO grift, or straight from Walz's clients?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (t0Rmr)

351 You need squadrons of attack Ocelots dropped in by Zeppelin's so that they can infiltrate and destroy these underground facilities.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (XV/Pl)
_____

Otters
Posted by: Elric Blade
.......

Penguins

Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (UjdFS)

352 342 This guy had a golden opportunity when Fox canned him (or when he left on his own, I don't remember) to strike out on his own and really make a name for himself as an influential conservative. I am baffled as to how he got sidetracked into the loonier realms of conspiracy-thinking and bad history.

He still had time left on his contract with Fox and it was a large sum....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (VE6XX)

353 "One hit may not take it out. What about five hits? Ten? Twenty?

No sarcasm, just curious if anyone with experience in that area of knowledge can chime in.

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM (0fs9V) "

(might be wrong) but I'm not sure how much testing has been done of the MOP ... so I (& my ignorance) favor the 5 or 10 or 20 hits approach until there is a pit kilometers deep and wide.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (/Ghsb)

354 Explain how permitting a nuclear Iran will convey enough benefits to the American middle class so as to outweigh the terrorism Iran exports and dead Americans Iran creates.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 01:20 PM (lHAAk)

First and foremost Iran has allegedly been a week from obtaining a nuclear weapon for my entire adult life. So count me as not convinced that there is some existential threat to the United States brewing in Iran.

We saw this movie already. We know how it ends. Or did the entire country collectively forget about our adventures in Iraq Libya Syria Afghanistan Yemen etc etc?

You know the wars Trump called stupid and said hed end.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (zuAlv)

355 Just looking at history, ~~Russia~~ no one should never trust China.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 01:06 PM (2Rbgs)

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 01:28 PM (ExV1e)

356 353 (might be wrong) but I'm not sure how much testing has been done of the MOP ... so I (& my ignorance) favor the 5 or 10 or 20 hits approach until there is a pit kilometers deep and wide.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (/Ghsb)

=======

Most rubble from an explosion goes up and straight back down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:28 PM (GBKbO)

357 Again, unless you it can be STUXNETTED or some other means to take it out, the only way is up close and personnel, ie, Boots On The Ground.

Which could be accomplished with a Delta Strike Force.

They go in, bing-bang-boom, they go out, and that they end of that.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:23 PM (XV/Pl)
********
Could a Strike Force of men get in? Sure. Could they actually carry enough explosives to destroy it (i.e., collapse the whole underground structure)....no way.

They could breech some doors...blow up a few machines...but destroy the site? No way.

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 01:28 PM (0fs9V)

358 Hi, Bulg.

I'm doing well, thank you for asking--better, faster, than was expected I'm happy to say.

Good luck with your niece/grand-niece. I'll be praying for you.

Posted by: Wenda at June 17, 2025 01:28 PM (2EeNt)

359 340 Which could be accomplished with a Delta Strike Force.

They go in, bing-bang-boom, they go out, and that they end of that.

into a facility 300 feet under a mountain inside a hostile country? that "go in" part may be a bit challenging. maybe they can get those ultra realistic masks from the IMF team
Posted by: brak at June 17, 2025 01:26 PM (jGJov)

There's gotta be some are vents we can throw some grenades down. All I need is 4.5 seconds and 40 yards. Git up offa that thing! Hah!

Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 01:28 PM (OA79/)

360 This guy had a golden opportunity when Fox canned him (or when he left on his own, I don't remember) to strike out on his own and really make a name for himself as an influential conservative. I am baffled as to how he got sidetracked into the loonier realms of conspiracy-thinking and bad history.
Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 01:22 PM (mADJX)

I think there's a tendency on our side at the moment to search out the hidden truth that "they" have been keeping from us all these years. Understandable, given all the lies the ruling class has been telling us, but there's a difference between "DC didn't tell the truth about Covid" and "ZOMG Atlantis is real you guys!!!"

Posted by: Dr. T at June 17, 2025 01:28 PM (jGGMD)

361 Apparently, the only option to knock out Fordow is dropping a bunker buster from a B2 Spirit, which only the US has.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 17, 2025 01:22 PM (t/2Uw)

Couldn't we just let them borrow it....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 01:25 PM (VE6XX)

Let an Israeli ride along in the check pilot seat, as the "command" pilot.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (S/Y4j)

362 You need squadrons of attack Ocelots dropped in by Zeppelin's so that they can infiltrate and destroy these underground facilities.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (XV/Pl)
_____

Otters
Posted by: Elric Blade
.......

Penguins
Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (UjdFS)
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Pangolins.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (6YdsJ)

363 This guy had a golden opportunity when Fox canned him (or when he left on his own, I don't remember) to strike out on his own and really make a name for himself as an influential conservative. I am baffled as to how he got sidetracked into the loonier realms of conspiracy-thinking and bad history.
Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 01:22 PM (mADJX)
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It's possible--even likely--he's always been like that and the folks at Fox kept him in check while he was there.

Look at how even more deranged lefties have become when they've been let go from major networks.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (7fElN)

364 Killing Khadaffi was supposed to be the cornerstone of her 2016 run for president. Air strike a guy to death, utopia forms, female president.

Hillary's boys sodomized him with a bayonet then shot him in the head.

Meanwhile some sergeant playing sex dungeon with his girlfriend and his prisoners was the biggest news story of the year at the time in Iraq...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (t0Rmr)

365 354 First and foremost Iran has allegedly been a week from obtaining a nuclear weapon for my entire adult life. So count me as not convinced that there is some existential threat to the United States brewing in Iran.

We saw this movie already. We know how it ends. Or did the entire country collectively forget about our adventures in Iraq Libya Syria Afghanistan Yemen etc etc?

You know the wars Trump called stupid and said hed end.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (zuAlv)

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Last I saw, it's Israel attacking Iran, the Iran that funds Hezbollah and Hamas, not the US.

We're just providing post-10/7 levels of arms support and intel support.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

366 That's what families are for. Fighting, anger, rage, insults, denigration, abuse, and general dehumanization.

Denigration and general dehumanization is down the hall.
*stupid git*

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (s8j++)

367 337 Trump Says He Won’t Phone ‘Whacked Out’ Tim Walz Over His Former Appointee Suspected of Murder

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 01:25 PM (RHGPo)

I think that "Whacked-Out Walz" should be be adopted into the AoS Style Guide as an acceptable alternative to "Tampon Timmy".

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (wtvvX)

368 >>> 331 280 I hate when my family fights.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM (x69Nb)

It happens. Just try not to take it personally and hope everyone cools off after venting.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (xcxpd)

*tosses pie*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (ULPxl)

369 >I am baffled as to how he got sidetracked into the loonier realms of conspiracy-thinking and bad history.

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it's like when you think you have confirmed a conservative justice to SCOTUS, and after a while they start drifting left

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (AOsQT)

370 Those asking about "letting Israel use a B-2" need to realize you just don't hop in the pilot seat and rev the engines to take off.

You get trained to fly it. Takes a bit longer than learning how to drive a car... and look at how poorly some do at that.

Plus... it's got secret squirrel stuff even Israel isn't going to get to see. Ever.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (Q4IgG)

371 Hopefully Iran will accept an offer to destroy Fordow themselves, which might be accomplished by burying it under concrete, rather than risk casualties along with economic and political damage.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (MMp6W)

372 That Turkey and Iran are different types of Muslim probably helped Turkey decide, "Yeah, fuck Iran."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)

Erdogan wants to be Chief Caliph.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (ExV1e)

373 Miss Iran 2024

https://tinyurl.com/t8cedzwd
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (AOsQT)

Gotta love that nose
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 01:19 PM

Methinks you wouldn't be complaining, if it were nosing its way under your morning tent.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (Vb7TB)

374 364 Killing Khadaffi was supposed to be the cornerstone of her 2016 run for president. Air strike a guy to death, utopia forms, female president.

Hillary's boys sodomized him with a bayonet then shot him in the head.

Meanwhile some sergeant playing sex dungeon with his girlfriend and his prisoners was the biggest news story of the year at the time in Iraq...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (t0Rmr)

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Don't forget the open air slave markets in Libya!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

375 Right now Tom Cruise is practicing the maneuvers and time it will take over target. There's also a hot chick involved somehow.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (ewjUl)

376 Hey man I got a rank right here let's just blast a hole in the door and walk out with all that plutonium. MAN.

Posted by: Lt oddball at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (OA79/)

377 attack Ocelots dropped in by Zeppelin's so that they can infiltrate and destroy these underground facilities.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (XV/Pl)
_____
Otters
Posted by: Elric Blade
.......
Penguins

Sneks.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (dOnec)

378 375 Right now Tom Cruise is practicing the maneuvers and time it will take over target. There's also a hot chick involved somehow.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (ewjUl)

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In between pre-production meetings on Days of Thunder 2.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

379 Those asking about "letting Israel use a B-2" need to realize you just don't hop in the pilot seat and rev the engines to take off.

Biden let some Uke push the button that blew up Russia's oil pipeline using advanced American underwater weapons systems and the FNM tells me that means the US had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (t0Rmr)

380 because Persian women are hot and the world needs to see them

https://tinyurl.com/4hb9e89f
Posted by: Don Blac
*****

Yup.

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (0fs9V)

381 The IDF has stated, just today I think, that they can destroy Fordow without the U.S. bunker busters, per the Jerusalem Post.

The best reporting about the war comes from The J-Post & The Times of Israel (ToI), even though both are lefty & anti-Bibi.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (kd60y)

382 >>> 339 Also Khaddafi did give up his nuke program though I don't know how viable that really was.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (VofaG)

Viability wasn't the point for me.

For me, the point was that Khadaffi saw what was happening around him and actively tried to get right with the US.

We should have encouraged that, thereby convincing OTHER national leaders to get right with us, so as to avoid the stick.

Instead, Hillary set him up to be killed, then crowed about it on live television.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 01:26 PM (lHAAk)

I didn't even have any evidence against her!!!

Posted by: Zombie Khadaffi at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (ULPxl)

383 We saw this movie already. We know how it ends. Or did the entire country collectively forget about our adventures in Iraq Libya Syria Afghanistan Yemen etc etc?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM

Yep. None of them have atom bombs now.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (jc0TO)

384 Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
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2m
BREAKING: Sen. Alex Padilla cries, gets very emotional on the Senate floor as he recounts the experience of being detained after disrupting Sec. Noem’s press conference.

“Not ONCE did they tell me why…I pray you never have a moment like this.”

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Dear lord, Padilla is a little bitch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

385 327 You need squadrons of attack Ocelots dropped in by Zeppelin's so that they can infiltrate and destroy these underground facilities.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (XV/Pl)
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Otters
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (iFTx/)
Honey Badgers. Cause they……don’t give a fcuk

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (jgmnb)

386 Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (s8j++)

I'm still laughing about that Monty Python skit: "The Argument Clinic" someone posted on a tech thread last week. I hadn't seen it before,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (2GCMq)

387 371 Hopefully Iran will accept an offer to destroy Fordow themselves, which might be accomplished by burying it under concrete, rather than risk casualties along with economic and political damage.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (MMp6W)

Find an Iranian leader that cares more about Iran than hating Israel.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (KbCG3)

388 375 Right now Tom Cruise is practicing the maneuvers and time it will take over target. There's also a hot chick involved somehow.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (ewjUl)

Don't forget L. Ron Hubbard!!

Posted by: Dr. T at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (jGGMD)

389 377 attack Ocelots dropped in by Zeppelin's so that they can infiltrate and destroy these underground facilities.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (XV/Pl)
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Otters
Posted by: Elric Blade
.......
Penguins

Sneks.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (dOnec)

Tactical Goats

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (wtvvX)

390 You get trained to fly it. Takes a bit longer than learning how to drive a car... and look at how poorly some do at that.

find a very small Israeli pilot and let them ride in the pilot's lap, they get to push the button, problem solved

Posted by: brak at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (jGJov)

391
In between pre-production meetings on Days of Thunder 2.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM

No, that's Lizzo. The thunda from Fumunda.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (ewjUl)

392 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (zuAlv)

For your entire life , which I assume is 15 or 16, there have been multiple actions to slow down and prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. That's why they haven't been able to accomplish their goal within that snarky week.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (VofaG)

393 There are always well lighted and dust-free ventilation ducts.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (k/U8Z)

394 what are the odds the US arsenal includes a nuclear tipped bunker buster

just a small tactical nuke, couple of KTs

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (AOsQT)

395 Washington Nearsider as you know the Libya story is actually more dramatically at odds with the mythology than that. But the entire actual history of everything from the early 2000s has been replaced by a cartoonish mythology. The pathetic thing is even those who basically understand the current stakes and issues almost universally stipulate or even echo the nonsense. No point in even trying to discuss it with most.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (1m82a)

396 Sending Khomeni back to Iran was the second-most costly (in terms of lives and treasure) one way trip of the 20th century.
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at June 17, 2025 01:18 PM (0iJw5)

Not having Khomeini whacked was the Shah's biggest failing. He was so busy looking for Reds under every bed that he ignored the mouth-foaming clerics on the street corners.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (KC35q)

397 Denigration and general dehumanization is down the hall.
*stupid git*
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM

What about cruelty? Where might one find cruelty here in the HQ?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (Vb7TB)

398 391
In between pre-production meetings on Days of Thunder 2.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM

No, that's Lizzo. The thunda from Fumunda.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (ewjUl)

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For real, though.

He's in pre-production talks on Days of Thunder 2.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)

399
"Fordow enrichment plant. That is the nut toughest to crack on ending the mullah's nuclear dreams and Israel simply does not have the delivery systems to penetrate something like 200 m of rock. Think penetrating NORAD in Cheyenne Mountain for comparison."

Hitting the bunker with about 10 5000 lb bombs probably won't penetrate into the interior, but between the shock and concrete spalling inside it'll hammer the shit out of the equipment, maybe even totally ruining the centrifuges, which are EXTREMELY sensitive and require precise calibration so that they don't self-destruct when they get up to full speed.

So there's still a good reason to hammer the bunker, even with smaller bombs.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (y9nCu)

400 A lot of the WMD talk about Iraq was related more to chemical and perhaps biological weapons. Apparently from post war interviews, even a lot of Saddam's officers believed that they had them during the Second Gulf War.
Posted by: whig at June 17, 2025 01:09 PM (ctrM5)

I remember, back when they found a big cache of chemical bombs, and the media instantly dismissed it with "but they're old" and then never spoke of it again.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (ExV1e)

401 "because Persian women are hot and the world needs to see them”

Same goes for Lebanese women. FREEDOM!!!

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (f70Xg)

402 Miss Iran 2024

Second thoughts about a burka?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (dOnec)

403 I am baffled as to how he got sidetracked into the loonier realms of conspiracy-thinking and bad history.
Posted by: Paco
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kallisto suggested DeepState. After all of the current revelations I can't disagree. Tucker started out so well and now he's less credible than Alex Jones.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (Ffc+8)

404 Good luck with your niece/grand-niece. I'll be praying for you.

Posted by: Wenda

Thank you, Wenda. I'm looking forward to seeing my niece again after so many years, and her now nearly-grown daughters, who were toddlers when I last saw them.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (77rzZ)

405 Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
·
2m
BREAKING: Sen. Alex Padilla cries, gets very emotional on the Senate floor as he recounts the experience of being detained after disrupting Sec. Noem’s press conference.

“Not ONCE did they tell me why…I pray you never have a moment like this.”

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Dear lord, Padilla is a little bitch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)
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Like I said yesterday, David Hogg is an alpha in the Democrap party. David. Fucking. Hogg. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (iFTx/)

406 378 375 Right now Tom Cruise is practicing the maneuvers and time it will take over target. There's also a hot chick involved somehow.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (ewjUl)

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In between pre-production meetings on Days of Thunder 2.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

It's going to be funny when they Top Gun 2-it and rerun the same story with new protagonists led by the previous protagonists.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (KbCG3)

407 384 Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
·
2m
BREAKING: Sen. Alex Padilla cries, gets very emotional on the Senate floor as he recounts the experience of being detained after disrupting Sec. Noem’s press conference.

“Not ONCE did they tell me why…I pray you never have a moment like this.”

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Dear lord, Padilla is a little bitch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

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Dems are desperate to claim the top spot in their party-wide smallest penis contest.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (MMp6W)

408 378 375 Right now Tom Cruise is practicing the maneuvers and time it will take over target. There's also a hot chick involved somehow.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:30 PM (ewjUl)
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Doesn't Iran still has some leftover F-14's he can use if he has to eject.

Posted by: WisRich at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (G0vdT)

409 319 Democrat-run Chicago, Illinois, suspended a website Friday that allows people, no matter their immigration status, to obtain local government-issued IDs, after being subpoenaed by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
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A 'local government ID' with no standards - I'm sure the Feds will be in a hurry to give that all the respect it deserves, which is slightly less than that given to a badge from a cereal box.

Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (F/35S)

410 Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire. He wants to dominate the Arabs like was done in the old days . Iran is a potential competitor and therefore eff them

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (akw+7)

411 405 Like I said yesterday, David Hogg is an alpha in the Democrap party. David. Fucking. Hogg. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (iFTx/)

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So pathetically true.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (GBKbO)

412 360 I think there's a tendency on our side at the moment to search out the hidden truth that "they" have been keeping from us all these years. Understandable, given all the lies the ruling class has been telling us, but there's a difference between "DC didn't tell the truth about Covid" and "ZOMG Atlantis is real you guys!!!" - Dr. T

Exactly so. Well put.

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (mADJX)

413 new thread smell

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (0iJw5)

414 First and foremost Iran has allegedly been a week from obtaining a nuclear weapon for my entire adult life. So count me as not convinced that there is some existential threat to the United States brewing in Iran.

We saw this movie already. We know how it ends. Or did the entire country collectively forget about our adventures in Iraq Libya Syria Afghanistan Yemen etc etc?

You know the wars Trump called stupid and said hed end.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 01:27 PM (zuAlv)

Nowhere in that rant did you explain how a nuclear-armed Iran benefits the American middle class - the benchmark YOU established for good policy.

Please take another swing at it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (lHAAk)

415 You need squadrons of attack Ocelots dropped in by Zeppelin's so that they can infiltrate and destroy these underground facilities.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 01:15 PM (XV/Pl)
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Otters
Posted by: Elric Blade

I like the drone idea. Drones carrying tubes of radioactive material flown down into the facility and detonated.

Area denial system.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (PfGa7)

416 406 It's going to be funny when they Top Gun 2-it and rerun the same story with new protagonists led by the previous protagonists.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (KbCG3)

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That's the story of F1, it seems.

Sounds like a good time, to be honest.

A more exciting version of Grand Prix with fewer smelly Frenchmen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (GBKbO)

417 2m
BREAKING: Sen. Alex Padilla cries, gets very emotional on the Senate floor as he recounts the experience of being detained after disrupting Sec. Noem’s press conference.

“Not ONCE did they tell me why…I pray you never have a moment like this.”

Why ? Because you rushed the podium where the Secretary of Homeland Security was beginning a speech without initially identifying yourself.. A Secretary who has had numerous death threats

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (VE6XX)

418 For real, though.

He's in pre-production talks on Days of Thunder 2.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)

*facepalm*

Posted by: Dr. T at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (jGGMD)

419 This whole thing is now in the hands of "the Iranian people." Nether the U.S. nor Israel are going to send actual ground troops into Iran, yet it absolutely requires "boots on the ground" to effect regime change.

Scenario A is that Israel continues to bomb every nuclear and energy site in Iran for a few weeks until the rubble bounces, but no uprising ever happens, and the mullahs remain in power. That's not a bad result, but what wold then happen is that Iran would slowly start re-cnstituting its nuclear program and start building a bomb all over again. Might take ten years instead of one, but they'll get back on that track. So in ten years, we'll have to have a repeat of this week's pre-emotive strike.

Scenario B is exactly like Scenario A, but in this case there is some kind of counter-revolution at the moment the existing Iranian regime is at its weakest. Then presumably the new government will declare itself a non-nuclear state, and everyone goes home happy. I don't even care if he new Iranian government is democratic, monarchist, communist, or less-fundamental Islamist--whatever it might be, it couldn't be worse than the current regime.

Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (pMi6S)

420 338 Hi! Just introducing the new thread. You know, b/c I commented here.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 17, 2025 01:25 PM (lPeS+)

That was a nood, FWIW.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (/y8xj)

421 For real, though.

He's in pre-production talks on Days of Thunder 2.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM

Harry, what are you doing? Eating Ice Cream. Bet you the movie is another hit. Because real cars and America so fck yes!

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 01:34 PM (ewjUl)

422 >>>He's in pre-production talks on Days of Thunder 2.

Cruise is fully in the "YOLO" phase of his career where he just makes fun movies he thinks people will like

Posted by: brak at June 17, 2025 01:35 PM (jGJov)

423 394 what are the odds the US arsenal includes a nuclear tipped bunker buster

just a small tactical nuke, couple of KTs
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Go ahead and use a nuke - you're bombing nuke facilities anyway, blame all the fallout on the muzzies

Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at June 17, 2025 01:36 PM (F/35S)

424 >>> 397 Denigration and general dehumanization is down the hall.
*stupid git*
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM

What about cruelty? Where might one find cruelty here in the HQ?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (Vb7TB)

Duh, right there on Ace's shelves.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 17, 2025 01:36 PM (ULPxl)

425 2m
BREAKING: Sen. Alex Padilla cries, gets very emotional on the Senate floor as he recounts the experience of being detained after disrupting Sec. Noem’s press conference.

“Not ONCE did they tell me why…I pray you never have a moment like this.”

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Dear lord, Padilla is a little bitch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

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Hey, Padilla you stupid fuck face, talk to the J 6th prisoners who didn't get charged or had a trial but were held in prisons for years. And they did less than you.

Posted by: Seems Legit at June 17, 2025 01:36 PM (PMtkd)

426 Not having Khomeini whacked was the Shah's biggest failing. He was so busy looking for Reds under every bed that he ignored the mouth-foaming clerics on the street corners.

It is hard for non-Islamist rulers of Islamic states to crack down on Islamism - you can see if in every type of Muslim regime from democracies to various types of dictatorships.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 01:37 PM (t0Rmr)

427 Like I said yesterday, David Hogg is an alpha in the Democrap party. David. Fucking. Hogg. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM

* back double-biceps pose *

* turns smoothly into a crab pose *

Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at June 17, 2025 01:37 PM (Vb7TB)

428 410 - Erdogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire. He wants to dominate the Arabs like was done in the old days . Iran is a potential competitor and therefore eff them - Smell the Glove

I think that's very likely true. I wonder if Trump will one day wind up having to deal with the excesses of the Sublime Porte.

Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 01:37 PM (mADJX)

429 Tactical Goats

Wild boars on drugs.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 01:37 PM (jBXWv)

430 Not having Khomeini whacked was the Shah's biggest failing. He was so busy looking for Reds under every bed that he ignored the mouth-foaming clerics on the street corners.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

From what I've read, after the Mossadeq debacle, he had all the opposition politicians whacked or imprisoned, but didn't touch the clerics. So the clerics filled the void and became the leaders of the opposition.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 01:37 PM (77rzZ)

431 Dems are desperate to claim the top spot in their party-wide smallest penis contest.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 17, 2025 01:33 PM (MMp6W)

I LOSE!

Posted by: Doctor Admiral Rachel Levine at June 17, 2025 01:38 PM (lHAAk)

432 Nood FBI 2020 Treason.

Posted by: Doctor Admiral Rachel Levine at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (lHAAk)

433 Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 01:24 PM (x69Nb)

*****

Yeah, I hear you. Neutralize vs destroy are different things and have different requirements.

I'd prefer !!!DESTROYED!!! but can live with "neutralized".

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 01:41 PM (0fs9V)

434 Alex Padilla cries, gets very emotional on the Senate floor

Cringe worthy. He could give David Hogg drama queen lessons.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 01:42 PM (jBXWv)

435 278 - Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 01:17 PM

Apples & oranges...the Pakis have nukes because the Indians do. This is less about 'islam' then it is about the Paki elites staying cozy on their thrones.

The Pakis are forever looking over their shoulders, wondering when when the axe is going to fall on them

Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2025 01:42 PM (XjTSo)

436 Rather nice to have a straight-talking leader...no BS, right to the point. Not a lot of the usual state-department wishy-washy obfuscation.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 17, 2025 01:43 PM (cWffP)

437 Ugh, Tranmiral Levine sock off.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 01:44 PM (lHAAk)

438
Not having Khomeini whacked was the Shah's biggest failing. He was so busy looking for Reds under every bed that he ignored the mouth-foaming clerics on the street corners.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 01:32 PM (KC35q)

As I recall, the Reds and leftists were the ones who did most of the work during the Revolution in '79. They'd got to the point where they were close to forcing the Shah out, but needed a last bit of political capital and street muscle to succeed. That's when the mullahs were brought on board, although I can't remember if the Reds specifically asked the Frogs to ship Khomeni in or if the Frogs did it on their own.

Then the Reds relaxed when the Shah's guys ran away, and the mullahs got their people together and started shooting the Reds in the face.

The Princess Gate Iranian Embassy takeover in London that brought the SAS into the public eye in '80 was the last gasp of Iranian Reds when they tried to take over the embassy from the mullah-aligned diplomats there.

Funny how things link together.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 01:49 PM (y9nCu)

439 Plus... it's got secret squirrel stuff even Israel isn't going to get to see. Ever.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 01:29 PM (Q4IgG)

Romulan cloaking device?

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 01:51 PM (Dnobf)

440 avid Reaboi, Late Republic Nonsense@davereaboi . 5h

He [Vance] should probably find out who on JD’s team is leaking to Politico and Axios.

JD Vance@JDVance . 4h

This loser (who supported Desantis in the 2024 primary) is now attacking my team, which has been working tirelessly to implement the president’s agenda.

He has no evidence for this BS smear because there isn’t any

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 01:52 PM (Ffc+8)

441 The Pakis are forever looking over their shoulders, wondering when when the axe is going to fall on them
Posted by: CPT. Charle
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If they minded their own business they wouldn't have to worry.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 01:55 PM (Ffc+8)

442 >> 203 People are only against war when the other side is in charge, it seems.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 17, 2025 12:50 PM (ERYKL)

>>> As was stated in the previous thread "... different conflicts with different motivations and different strategic considerations for us."

I am opposed to US involvement in the Russia / Ukraine thing. I am opposed because Russia isn't our enemy, Ukraine isn't our ally, and we pretty much set up the entire conflict in the first place. Precisely zero of those things is true where Israel / Iran is concerned.

Yeah, exactly. My case in point.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 17, 2025 01:55 PM (ERYKL)

443 Here's the thing - Israel doesn't need to U.S. bunker busters.

1) Isarel has constantly and continuously surprised everyone with the depth of sophistication of this attack. They have obviously been planning this for years.

2) Anyone think they don't have a plan for every nuclear facility? All of them? Even the most heavily fortified ones?

3) My guess - their plan requires air supremacy, which they have now achieved.

4) Cargo plane, and a massive fucking bomb. It flies low and slow, so needs a safe corridor for the attack.

5) And boomity.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 01:57 PM (gDhA9)

444 Ace and Morons, if I haven't said in the last month or so how much I love you, I am saying it now.

Other blogs, mostly normal with conservative bent, are up in arms (some posters) that "I voted for President Trump to not go to war and keep his promises." Very pie in the sky. In five months, he is trying to STOP war.

Dealing with the eeslam barbarians has never been an easy task. As they are inbred with tribal DNA. Oh, sure, the Dims have helped them over the years since Carter upended everything.

It never occurs to peabrains that the warplanes the MSM are shrieking about just simply could be a show of force? I could be wrong and could be dead tonight from a stray nuke.

I voted for mostly deporting God knows how many bazillions of illegals in this country, who could cause war within. I also voted against the Dims and Kamkook who got us deep into this foreign invasion to start with. I voted for President Trump as he was the best, in my eyes, to swat complete unhinged idiots off like gnats.

No, I did not vote for war. No, I also did not vote for the squabbling hysteria of GOP self kings like Tucker, or the MSM or social media propaganda...who cause wars within conservatives.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 02:12 PM (6PCLE)

445 We're getting close to flaming ayatollah skull territory, aren't we?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (h7ZuX)

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*rubs hands together*
*channels my inner Flounder*

Oh boy this is gonna be great!

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (144I4)

446 384 Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
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2m
BREAKING: Sen. Alex Padilla cries, gets very emotional on the Senate floor as he recounts the experience of being detained after disrupting Sec. Noem’s press conference.

“Not ONCE did they tell me why…I pray you never have a moment like this.”
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What a pussy. Trump should call him that to just to set the leftists women, both the XX and the XY types off.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (17s+e)

447 "First and foremost Iran has allegedly been a week from obtaining a nuclear weapon for my entire adult life. So count me as not convinced that there is some existential threat to the United States brewing in Iran."

The only reason they have had delays is that Israel and the US have repeatedly set back their efforts with covert attacks. But, you cannot count on the luck of succeeding with covert attacks forever.

I'm so tired of hearing all of this crap about Israel "starting a war". The war was started by Iran (using proxy forces; Hamas, Hezbollah) on October 7, 2023. This is just another battle in that war, hopefully the final. As though Israel has no right to finish the fight Iran started in a manner that suits Israel.

It seems like the people who claim Israel "started a war" would claim each punch in a boxing match was a separate fight.

Posted by: Brian at June 17, 2025 02:40 PM (iK8a4)

448 I gotta say, I'm really tired of reading about how Trump is going back on his word on not starting any "NEW WARS".

For the love of Christ, Iran has been at war with the US for nearly FIFTY YEARS.

Who do you think paid for the Marine Barracks bombing in Lebanon ??? As if taking our embassy hostages wasn't enough.

Posted by: deadrody at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (qf6NU)

449 Peace through superior firepower and tactics!

Posted by: JML at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (1UudH)

The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Fordow, the underground facility where most of Iran's centrifuges are hidden is the key to destroying their nuclear weapons program. It is under a mountain, supposedly 300 feet deep, and therefore very, very difficult to destroy with conventional bombs. Israel has the GBU-28, which is a 5,000 pound "bunker buster," but it is thought to be too small to do enough damage to Fordow. Israel does not have the largest bomb in the American inventory, the GBU-57, which is a 30,000 pound "Massive Ordnance Penetrator." And even if it did, it does not have the heavy bombers to deliver it.

How Much Damage Has Israel Inflicted on Iran's Nuclear Program?
[leftist-driven reporting warning!]

At Iran's underground Fordow enrichment plant, the country's second uranium enrichment facility, the IAEA observed "no damage" following the attacks, Grossi said.

Israel's military is innovative, and could probably use a military cargo plane to deliver the GBU-57, although it would be a much easier operation if the United States simply used its own B-2s to destroy Fordow. But hopefully that is not going to happen. Yes, it would be the quickest and safest way to deal with the Mad Mullah's and their apocalyptic insanity, but in the short term this is Israel's problem, and Israel should deal with it.

The image of tiny Israel dealing such damage to both the infrastructure and the political and military leadership of Iran is a powerful message to Islam, and overt American involvement would decrease the strength of that message. Should the United States sell to Israel the ordnance needed to destroy their nuclear facilities? Absolutely. Should America drop those bombs ourselves? Absolutely not!

However, the long term is a very different thing, and if the theocracy survives this war, they will undoubtedly resume their drive for nuclear weapons with which to destroy Israel...and America. Yup, that is their stated goal, and they have spent their 45 years in power doing everything they could to achieve that goal.

In addition to their nuclear ambitions, Iran ramped up production of conventional ballistic missiles, with the ultimate goal of being able to overwhelm Israel's missile defense systems. The twin threat of perhaps thousands of missiles being launched, with a few nuclear-tipped missiles in the mix is untenable. That is why Israel acted now, because they are Iran's first target. But there is no reason to assume that those missiles wouldn't be used against the Saudis or the Egyptians or the French. And who knows whether the Iranians are planning ICBMs that can reach the eastern seaboard of America!

It is irrational for the West to humor Iran and ignore its clearly stated goals. Luckily we have President Trump, who takes them at their word! Imagine a world without his leadership and clarity of purpose. A Kamala Harris administration would be dithering and muddying and pressing Israel to withdraw from Gaza, and would have restarted the catastrophic nuclear agreement with Iran that Obama signed. The United Nations would be busily pumping out resolutions calling for Israel's destruction, and Iran's proxies would be emboldened.

Instead we have the Trump administration's masterful command of the Iran negotiations that clearly fooled the Mullahs into believing that their usual delaying tactics and obfuscation would continue to work.

Whoops! Whoopsie!

And rumor has it that they are contacting both Israel and the United States to end the war and return to the negotiating table. But nothing will have changed if that occurs, and it would be naive in the extreme for Israel or America to accede to their request.

Of course it is entirely possible that the Israeli decapitation of Iranian leadership will embolden the Iranian people to continue that work and overthrow the Mullahs. What comes after that is anybody's guess, and the odds of exchanging one group of madmen for another are not long. But Iran was (mostly) free before, and maybe they can be free again!

[Crossposted at CutJibNewsletter and X/Twitter] And the Apple and Spotify feeds for CJN's podcast should be working!

Posted by: CBD at 10:59 AM

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1 First?

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 10:59 AM (w9Wax)

2 I'll noodify the others.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 10:59 AM (w9Wax)

3 Mornin' again Hordians. (Thanks Stu.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 17, 2025 11:00 AM (O7YUW)

4 MONKEY!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 11:01 AM (zjgNU)

5 Yup.

If Iran's entirely nuclear program isn't erased, along with the leadership, scientists, and 'religious' figures who drove, espoused, and encourage it, this is all for naught.

Finish the job, Israel. You've finally got a President who won't stop you.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:01 AM (lHAAk)

6 "Massive Ordnance Penetrator"

[giggles]

The jokes write themselves ....

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:01 AM (iFTx/)

7 JackPoso@JackPosobiec

Regime Change Recent Scorecard:

Iraq: Chaos, death, Shia take power

Syria: Refugees flood Europe, ISIS,

Afghanistan: Taliban won, got our equipment

Libya: Benghazi, Refugees flood Europe

Ukraine: Massive war, countless deaths

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 11:02 AM (TGPs7)

8 Bomb all the entrances to the facility. If it looks like they’re trying to excavate, bomb it some more.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 11:02 AM (u73oe)

9 Not enough

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 11:03 AM (+qU29)

10 Rent-a-Buff

Only for certain people.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:03 AM (bss/y)

11 "Massive Ordnance Penetrator"

[giggles]

The jokes write themselves ....

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:01 AM (iFTx/)

Oh, it's not a joke, I assure you.

Posted by: The Paolo's latest 'friend' at June 17, 2025 11:03 AM (lHAAk)

12 Instead we have the Trump administration's masterful command of the Iran negotiations that clearly fooled the Mullahs into believing that their usual delaying tactics and obfuscation would continue to work.

The negotiations need to consist of the following:

You will surrender all of your uranium enrichment programs and facilities, and we will destroy them with charges placed by our personnel, in the facilities. There will be no "inspections" of ongoing programs and other opportunities for you to cheat. You're done. Period. If you refuse, then it will go very poorly for you.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:03 AM (s8j++)

13 Why is IKEA inspecting a nuclear site?

Posted by: Damn blueprints make NO sense at June 17, 2025 11:03 AM (TbWk/)

14 "At Iran's underground Fordow enrichment plant, the country's second uranium enrichment facility, the IAEA observed 'no damage' following the attacks, Grossi said."

How does the IAEA know that? They sent inspectors there 45 minutes after the bomb strikes?

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:04 AM (iFTx/)

15 3 Mornin' again Hordians.

gonna be a gen-yoo-ine hordenanny in here!

Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2025 11:04 AM (sGtp+)

16 "Massive Ordnance Penetrator"

[giggles]

The jokes write themselves ....

Paolo considered it, and then said "nah, too easy".

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:04 AM (s8j++)

17 Why is IKEA inspecting a nuclear site?
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Because its in pieces.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 11:04 AM (TN0g+)

18 "Instead we have the Trump administration's masterful command of the Iran negotiations that clearly fooled the Mullahs into believing that their usual delaying tactics and obfuscation would continue to work."

Posted by: CBD at 10:59 AM

Most of our "elite" "diplomats" think that everyone is dumber than they are.

They also think that they can negotiate in good faith with Muslims.

Meanwhile, the entire history of Islam, their entire culture, their "holy" false prohet, and their "holy" book not only condones treachery, but praises it.

Their most revered figures are the ones who stabbed people in the back after negotiating peace. Islam hasn't changed, but the "elites" on our side have gotten stupider.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 11:05 AM (zjgNU)

19 Why is IKEA inspecting a nuclear site?
Posted by: Damn blueprints make NO sense at June 17, 2025 11:03 AM (TbWk/)

——————

Ok, we rebuilt the centrifuges. What are all these extra parts for?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 11:05 AM (u73oe)

20 So, to bunker bust or not to bunker bust, that is the question… WE do it, or it does not get done… sort of a Rubicon??

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:05 AM (PCK5/)

21 "At Iran's underground Fordow enrichment plant, the country's second uranium enrichment facility, the IAEA observed 'no damage' following the attacks, Grossi said."

How does the IAEA know that? They sent inspectors there 45 minutes after the bomb strikes?

It's safe to assume the IAEA is on Iran's side. Act accordingly.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:05 AM (s8j++)

22 Where is Maverick when you need him ?

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 11:05 AM (VofaG)

23 The Israelis should get ahold of those things in the black sarcophagi in Antarctica.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:06 AM (77rzZ)

24 IAEA also sells excellent frozen Swedish meatballs.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 11:06 AM (w9Wax)

25 >>Where is Maverick when you need him ?

Still dead. Funeral ongoing...

Posted by: one hour sober at June 17, 2025 11:06 AM (Y1sOo)

26
Israel does not have the largest bomb in the American inventory, the GBU-57, which is a 30,000 pound "Massive Ordnance Penetrator." And even if it did, it does not have the heavy bombers to deliver it.

___________

Can we lease something out? Paint a B-2 in IAF livery? Stencil "Shalom" on a GBU-57?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 11:06 AM (QnmlO)

27 From last thread:
one ex MLB player threatens to pull support for Trump if we proceed with military action against Iran and the Left thinks that is a larger sign of lost support.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:55 AM (VofaG)

I have to agree. I am not going to pull 'support' per se, but I think it is the wrong call to get involved now.

Israel already has them on the ropes. At this point I do not see much gain for the investment anyway.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:06 AM (bss/y)

28 13 Why is IKEA inspecting a nuclear site?
Posted by: Damn blueprints make NO sense at June 17, 2025 11:03 AM (TbWk/)

Well, their BILLY bookcases can be repurposed for a variety of projects...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 11:07 AM (PiwSw)

29 Trump could get a new Popular Iranian Government a great deal on Used Facilities tours for a Port rebuild.

Posted by: DaveA at June 17, 2025 11:07 AM (FhXTo)

30 IAEA also sells excellent frozen Swedish meatballs.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 11:06 AM (w9Wax)

Just nuke 'em for two minutes and they're ready to eat!

Posted by: And they glow too! at June 17, 2025 11:07 AM (TbWk/)

31 I wonder what the maximum penetration depth of a large "Rod from God" would be. I suspect it could destroy Fordow.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:07 AM (s8j++)

32 Where is Maverick when you need him ?

Israel blew up the Iranian F-14 that he he was going to take...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 11:08 AM (t0Rmr)

33 27 I have to agree. I am not going to pull 'support' per se, but I think it is the wrong call to get involved now.

Israel already has them on the ropes. At this point I do not see much gain for the investment anyway.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:06 AM (bss/y)

=======

And Trump saying, "We're not getting involved," seems to never be an important part of people's analysis.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:08 AM (GBKbO)

34 At Iran's underground Fordow enrichment plant, the country's second uranium enrichment facility, the IAEA observed "no damage" following the attacks, Grossi said.

Maybe the IAEA should have provided better coordinates.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 11:08 AM (qLZZ/)

35 Mommy Doktor Jill! I made a bunker buster in my pants!

Posted by: President Emeritus at June 17, 2025 11:09 AM (G5+As)

36 Or Isreal could just nuke Fordow.

Huh, guess they did Have A bomb... Anyways.

Posted by: DaveA at June 17, 2025 11:09 AM (FhXTo)

37 @26/Hadrian: "Can we lease something out?"

The Lend/Lease act of 1941 set the precedent, so yes, that could theoretically be done, but it'd need Congress.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 17, 2025 11:09 AM (O7YUW)

38 Is there anything they could do the mountain that could destroy the facility?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:09 AM (77rzZ)

39 Most of our "elite" "diplomats" think that everyone is dumber than they are.

They also think that they can negotiate in good faith with Muslims.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 11:05 AM (zjgNU)
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The State Department has been operating in Cold War mode even after the fall of the USSR and the Berlin Wall.

The institutional lore from all of the old timers of the era was that we can always operate under a gentleman's agreement where we all talk a big game and then do fuckall. All just kabuki theatre to keep everyone's phony-baloney jobs safe.

There is no gentleman's agreement to be had with fanatical muslims. It took DJT and, strangely I guess, Marco Rubio to come in and tell all of our "elite" diplomats What Time It Is.

Also don't get me started on John Kerry's psychosexual fixation on jerking these assholes off.

Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 11:10 AM (3BwY8)

40 "Nothing will have changed", except all their data libraries are destroyed, without which the Itanians have no record of their experiments, "dozens" of their nuclear engineers and scientists are dead, all of their enrichment facilities other than Fordow are completely destroyed, their trigger manufacturing and assembly plants are gone, without which they cannot explode a bomb, and the top four levels of their military decision makers are all dead. Their octogenarian dictator is reportedly in shock and hardly able to function. Understandably, given that a country one tenth his size has destroyed in kess than a week the military structures Iran has so carefully built over five decades.

Fordow is important, and maybe even a critical objective, but if it is not destroyed completely (ie, if the war stops short of that) I'd bet the Iranians are most likely unable to build a bomb.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:10 AM (oZT7M)

41 Hasn't Iran been 6 months away from a nuclear bomb for years? I remember Trump saying so in 2016

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:10 AM (RqMDa)

42 They also think that they can negotiate in good faith with Muslims.

I wonder. I suspect what they actually think is that they get paid a lot of money. They get to travel on an expense account a lot. They get to fly on private jets (government owned) and stay nice places in order to "negotiate".

Actually coming to a beneficial and lasting agreement means that the game is over. Who wants that? None of these people want to succeed, they want to "try" unsuccessfully for 40 years or so and then retire.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:11 AM (ExV1e)

43 >>And rumor has it that they are contacting both Israel and the United States to end the war and return to the negotiating table. But nothing will have changed if that occurs, and it would be naive in the extreme for Israel or America to accede to their request.

60 days.
They were given 60 days.
They chose to not negotiate when the opportunity was presented.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 11:11 AM (72zuV)

44 I think some of the more impenetrable sites will have to be dismantled from within. The equipment and materials needed to make nuclear weapons have to be removed. Sure, if the current crop of mad mullahs retains control of government there they will, no doubt, attempt to buy all the gear necessary to begin again.

So, don't do that. Run them off now. Or kill them. Whatever.

Israel has air superiority over Iran. That's one of the requirements to being able to operate on the ground. Might the other requirements be forthcoming?

We may find out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 11:12 AM (Q4IgG)

45 So in other words, destroying Iran's nukular capability was just a lie to justify this action.

Where have I see that before.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:12 AM (dGCAG)

46 I shouldn't be up yet, but could go make coffee while deciding

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 11:12 AM (+qU29)

47 without which the Itanians
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Heck with IKEA. The Itanians definitely make the best meatballs.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:12 AM (77rzZ)

48 Back to work for me. I'll check in later.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 17, 2025 11:13 AM (O7YUW)

49 Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:06 AM (bss/y)

Your position is different. There is nothing wrong with being against military action unless its obviously needed ( I'm sure that may be a possibility depending on a lot of factors) and being disappointed or even mad at Trump. His position was more I'm going to take my ball and go home and hell with any other issue that may damager our country.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 11:13 AM (VofaG)

50 Just bomb all the entry points to Fordow. Without the ability get vehicles into the facility it becomes useless.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:13 AM (oZT7M)

51 Quick question: Anyone seen or heard from John Kerry?

He was so busy inserting himself into negotiations with Iran - on Iran's side - during Trump's presidency, I have to wonder what he's been up to lately. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 11:13 AM (72zuV)

52 Israel has air superiority over Iran. That's one of the requirements to being able to operate on the ground. Might the other requirements be forthcoming?

We may find out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 11:12 AM (Q4IgG)

Israel simply cannot operate on the ground in Iran.

If only because Iran is 1,500 miles away from Israel.

Posted by: The Paolo's latest 'friend' at June 17, 2025 11:13 AM (lHAAk)

53 Most of our "elite" "diplomats" think that everyone is dumber than they are.

They also think that they can negotiate in good faith with Muslims.
______

Arab tribal culture* respects the strong horse. Which doesn't describe the effete know nothings in Western state departments. Despite classic horseface, John Kerry was never the strong horse.

*Obviously Iran is Persian, but like most of the moslem world, it is heavily influenced by their Arab conquerers. Though, who doesn't respect the strong horse?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 11:13 AM (Dv3i1)

54 So, to bunker bust or not to bunker bust, that is the question… WE do it, or it does not get done… sort of a Rubicon??
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:05 AM (PCK5/)

Not really. Ukraine has been using numerous weapons systems that they have neither the capacity to produce, the money to purchase, nor the training to use. Everyone just pretends that it's the Ukrainians doing it.

Stick an Israeli AF officer in a B2 and let them push the button at the appropriate time to drop the bomb. Totally Israel.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:14 AM (ExV1e)

55 Skanky lady sock off

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:14 AM (lHAAk)

56 We don't need to destroy Fordow. We need to let Israel destroy the ayatollahs/mullahs and the new Iranian government can destroy Fordow from the inside.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 17, 2025 11:14 AM (dHPB4)

57 They also think that they can negotiate in good faith with Muslims.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 11:05 AM (zjgNU)

Negotiate in good faith?

Who's doing that? Certainly not the U.S. of A. If the U.S. says they want to negotiate, it's probably best to hurry up and get a bomb.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:14 AM (dGCAG)

58 Another option would be to fly drones with canisters of radioactive waste into the tunnels leading to the laboratories, then detonate to contaminate the tunnels and labs so thoroughly that nobody can go in for millennia. There's no other reason to go in there, so why not?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (s8j++)

59 50 Just bomb all the entry points to Fordow. Without the ability get vehicles into the facility it becomes useless.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:13 AM (oZT7M)

This is probably the best approach without outside ( read-us) involvement… make it unusable, accessible… the place does not run on fairy dust…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (PCK5/)

60 It’s funny how all the pro-Ukraine war people now are mad that the US is selling Israel arms to blow up Iran.

But to be fair, plenty of the reverse as well. Peeps who wanted nothing to do with Ukraine are now on the Bomb Iran to the Stone Age bandwagon.

I do think however there are also people who want the US neither get involved with either wars. These are Trump people for the most part. And this won’t make them happy. See Tim Dillon. Now I know people here will say oh he’s just a comedian who cares? Ok he’s a comedian. But he’s representative of the “podcast election” phenomenon. Those podcast hosts who were instrumental in spreading the Trump message to young people. And now they’re telling those same young people Trump is fucking up bigly by backing Israel. Not all of them but a lot of them.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (/CkK4)

61 I would like Israel use back channels to let the rest of the world that *nothing* will be safe going in or out of Iran for the next couple of weeks. Those Mullahs that remain in Iran (assuming they are still there) must be hunted down and killed. They can be given no second chances absent and complete and public surrender.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (TN0g+)

62 We need to let Israel destroy the ayatollahs/mullahs and the new Iranian government can destroy Fordow from the inside.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 17, 2025 11:14 AM (dHPB4)

Just like Iraq did.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (dGCAG)

63 Paint a B-2 in IAF livery?

Test Flight time.

Ooops, guess I should have showed you the safeties 1st on the drop screen... Lunch?

Posted by: DaveA at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (FhXTo)

64 Finish the job, Israel. You've finally got a President who won't stop you.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

Israel: Now what? We've never been here before.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (PfGa7)

65 The only direct involvement by the US I can see is if Israel is unable to completely destroy the nuclear facilities on their own. All this for a one year delay to Iran's nuke development isn't going to cut it. If absolutely necessary, I could see our B-2s delivering the 30,000 lb bombs to finish off the nuke sites, but no other direct involvement such as killing Iranian leaders, etc. Otherwise we will be in the same situation in a year or so, with an even more determined Iranian Government, and we will regret not taking this unique opportunity now.

Posted by: Moot Quart at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (qUkBO)

66 Israel simply cannot operate on the ground in Iran.

Mister, we could use a man like Alexander again.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:16 AM (77rzZ)

67 Guessing this guy wants a war so he can use it to criticize Trump? Really hate the war-hungry MSM.

https://tinyurl.com/3zbyw8c9

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 11:16 AM (72zuV)

68 No matter what happens in Iran, as long as Islam remains it will be a source of trouble to the world. It's not the ayatollahs, it's not the mullahs, it's not the Iranians. It's Islam.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 17, 2025 11:16 AM (WPL6O)

69 Hasn't Iran been 6 months away from a nuclear bomb for years? I remember Trump saying so in 2016
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:10 AM (RqMDa)

IIRC, that's a planned stopping point.

What it means is that if they decided to, they could take 6 months to finally get the proper enrichment for their uranium/plutonium.

As it stands, their nuclear material isn't enriched enough.

SOOOO, they can claim they don't have a bomb, but keep getting more material to the edge of the necessary enrichment level.

(That, of course, assumes they aren't just outright lying, which they probably are.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 11:16 AM (zjgNU)

70 Another option would be to fly drones with canisters of radioactive waste into the tunnels leading to the laboratories, then detonate to contaminate the tunnels and labs so thoroughly that nobody can go in for millennia. There's no other reason to go in there, so why not?
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Basically the fill-it-with-gas-and-strike-a-match option.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 11:16 AM (TN0g+)

71 But to be fair, plenty of the reverse as well. Peeps who wanted nothing to do with Ukraine are now on the Bomb Iran to the Stone Age bandwagon.

Uke is not our war. Iran is.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 11:17 AM (PfGa7)

72 Good Morning Rant.

Carried over in part from the Morning Report, comment 364

US Senator Tim Kaine (gov)
Kaine Announces the Filing of a War Powers Resolution to Prevent War with Iran, 1 day ago (This is all over the msm now.)

That crap doesn't help. But hand-in-glove with O & Joe, they didn't touch them.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 11:17 AM (NFX2v)

73 It’s funny how all the pro-Ukraine war people now are mad that the US is selling Israel arms to blow up Iran.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (/CkK4)

Who's doing that? Lindsay Graham and the Bushies and Cheneys are sucking and fucking each other over this.

The neocon warmongers are getting exactly what they want.

Who's complaining, other than people who think it's wrong to go to war because you suspect somebody might maybe be kinda sorta possibly getting a weapon that you don't want them to have.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:17 AM (dGCAG)

74 Are we using the spiffy new stealth bombers yet? I want to se us drop the MOP, maybe twice, then deny everything. Give the Israelis credit for an audacious ground operation resulting in the destruction of the site.

Is there reticence from letting the Chinese know they need to dig a little deeper? Is the cost of potentially revealing the capability greater than the benefit of blowing up the facility?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 17, 2025 11:17 AM (pIfcn)

75
Israel simply cannot operate on the ground in Iran.

If only because Iran is 1,500 miles away from Israel.

I don't see why that makes it impossible. Fly a couple of SpecOps teams to Fordow, then tell the Iranians that anyone who attempts to get within 10 km of the facility will be obliterated by the Israels Air Force. Air supremacy has real value.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:17 AM (s8j++)

76 Finish the job, Israel. You've finally got a President who won't stop you.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

Israel: Now what? We've never been here before.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (PfGa7)

Oh. I thought I opened with that.

Finish the job, Israel. Wanna kill the Ayatollah? Get 'em. Want to sort out that pesky "Taliban Street" they have in Tehran? Go for it.

Every IRGC strike package you've ever wargamed, in your wildest hallucinations - send it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:17 AM (lHAAk)

77 Is there anything they could do the mountain that could destroy the facility?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:09 AM (77rzZ)

Israel should announce that they've developed a chemical which will turn people Jewish is they get near it and then drop a bomb filled with talc on the site.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:17 AM (ExV1e)

78 How many complete online isolationists are there? I keep seeing that sobriquet being tossed about, but it feels like a strawman.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:18 AM (bss/y)

79 There are already Israeli boots on the ground in Iran… covertly. For them to “ take” Fordow, militarily is a nonstarter idea. Not ever going to happen… next speculation..

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:18 AM (PCK5/)

80 Hasn't Iran been 6 months away from a nuclear bomb for years? I remember Trump saying so in 2016
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:10 AM (RqMDa)

IIRC, that's a planned stopping

Iran’s been a few months away from a nuke for as long as I can remember. Going back to the GWB years. It’s like global warming. Were always 6 month away from the point of no return. And then the date moves out 6 months again.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:18 AM (/CkK4)

81 Uke is not our war. Iran is.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 11:17 AM (PfGa7)

They both are. Neither one would be happening if there weren't American dollars and weapons being poured in.

Your country kills whoever it wants. Own it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:18 AM (dGCAG)

82 No need to worry. James Bond will sneak into Iran and infiltrate the Fordow facility and blow it up. Then he'll escape via hot air balloon with a Persian beauty.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at June 17, 2025 11:19 AM (eb5mD)

83 Don't underestimate Islam's ability to raise armies around the world. It won't be destroyed if some Mullah goes away, another will just take his place.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 11:19 AM (+qU29)

84 @33

>>And Trump saying, "We're not getting involved," seems to never be an important part of people's analysis.

There's involved and then there's "involved," we are most definitely, "invovled."

Iran deserves to be glassed after Beirut.

Trump is going to effectuate the toppling of the Iranian regime, one way or the other.

Trump > Reagan.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:19 AM (XV/Pl)

85 IMO, a nuclear Iran is as much America's problem as it is Israel's. We're #2 on Iran's hit list. So I have no problem with America handing the gun to Israel, and letting Israel pull the trigger.

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 11:19 AM (AOsQT)

86 Who's doing that? Lindsay Graham and the Bushies and Cheneys are sucking and fucking each other over this.

The neocon warmongers are getting exactly what they want.

Who's complaining, other than people who think it's wrong to go to war because you suspect somebody might maybe be kinda sorta possibly getting a weapon that you don't want them to have.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:17 AM (dGCAG)

I give zero fucks what Cheney or the Bushes think or do. I’m talking normal people.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:20 AM (/CkK4)

87 So, to bunker bust or not to bunker bust, that is the question… WE do it, or it does not get done… sort of a Rubicon??
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:05 AM (PCK5/)

Not really. Ukraine has been using numerous weapons systems that they have neither the capacity to produce, the money to purchase, nor the training to use. Everyone just pretends that it's the Ukrainians doing it.

Stick an Israeli AF officer in a B2 and let them push the button at the appropriate time to drop the bomb. Totally Israel.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:14 AM (ExV1e)
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I actually don't care if its USAF dropping the bomb. Although, based on the reports of how deep this site is, and how well protected, I'm not sure that even a Deep Penetrator (giggles) would destroy it. I'm assuming the Iranians built it knowing the capabilities of Deep Penetrators (giggles again).

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:20 AM (iFTx/)

88
"Massive Ordnance Penetrator"

RAGG MOPP

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 11:20 AM (63Dwl)

89 84
There's involved and then there's "involved," we are most definitely, "invovled."

Iran deserves to be glassed after Beirut.

Trump is going to effectuate the toppling of the Iranian regime, one way or the other.

Trump > Reagan.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:19 AM (XV/Pl)

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"Involved" means continuing existing arms contracts that were expanded after 10/7 and sharing military intel.

Kind of what one would expect from an ally, you know.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (GBKbO)

90 It seems Israel has prepared for and war-gammed this action with assets on the ground for many years. I would be surprised that they have no plan for taking out Fordow. But, what do I know, wait and see?

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (+V9k3)

91 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (/CkK4)

Each stands on their own merit and facts. It's not contradictory depending on what you believe is in the best interest and security of the US.

That's why I hate illogical comparisons. At least after 40 years people stopped comparing every military action by us as another Vietnam.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)

92 Israel simply cannot operate on the ground in Iran
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:16 AM (77rzZ)
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Except thy have done so for years. Remember, all the drone attacks that started this war came from inside Iran, from bases established by IDF personnel. And Mossad has been operating with impunity inside the country as well all week, hunting nuclear scientists and engineers, along with military leaders.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (QRgMb)

93 Is there reticence from letting the Chinese know they need to dig a little deeper? Is the cost of potentially revealing the capability greater than the benefit of blowing up the facility?

I'm sure they've already done that. It's stupid to spend the same amount of money to dig a facility 300' deep when you could dig it into the side of a mountain so it's effectively 1500' deep.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (s8j++)

94 Peeps who wanted nothing to do with Ukraine are now on the Bomb Iran to the Stone Age bandwagon.

Iran is our enemy - their choice. Russia is unfriendly - our choice.

See the difference?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (ExV1e)

95 I give zero fucks what Cheney or the Bushes think or do. I’m talking normal people.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:20 AM (/CkK4)

Normal people's opinions obviously don't matter.

The neocon warmongers in DC won the day.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (dGCAG)

96 It’s been a generation since Iraq. We’re due for a few thousand American boys to go get killed and maimed in some 3rd world shithole.

It’s the American way.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:22 AM (/CkK4)

97 What is interesting is the abandonment of Iran's rulers by Putin. Methinks, both Putin and Trump have a common enemy they are dismembering - China and Globo Homo. When you set out to decapitate the King - don't fail.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 11:22 AM (FmapG)

98 90 It seems Israel has prepared for and war-gammed this action with assets on the ground for many years.

this is about the stunning gams on some of those female idf soldiers, isn't it?

Posted by: anachronda at June 17, 2025 11:22 AM (sGtp+)

99 Putin stated that Russia will not help the mullahs. He knows a loser when he sees one.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 17, 2025 11:22 AM (2ocoG)

100 At least after 40 years people stopped comparing every military action by us as another Vietnam.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)

Compare, as in we had no business going to war in Vietnam, or any of these more recent ones either?

Because yeah, that strikes me as an apt comparison.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:23 AM (dGCAG)

101 I don't see why that makes it impossible. Fly a couple of SpecOps teams to Fordow, then tell the Iranians that anyone who attempts to get within 10 km of the facility will be obliterated by the Israels Air Force. Air supremacy has real value.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:17 AM (s8j++)

It absolutely does have real value. The daytime sorties prove that once again.

Fordow's just about dead nuts in the center of Iran. Assuming you successfully drop your team in, how do you get them out?

Rotors? That's not nearly the same as fighter superiority. You must have absolute (read as - complete) control of the entirety of the airspace AND ground all the way in and all the way out, or any Derka with an RPG can ruin your day.

Land fixed wing aircraft on Iranian fields? Same problem.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:23 AM (lHAAk)

102 The Uke war is about who gets possession of the Eastern provinces that want to join Russia (and voted for it)

The Iran war is about whether Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons and conduct attacks on Israel.

There is *no* way you can morally defend the former if you don't enthusiastically defend the latter.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 11:23 AM (t0Rmr)

103 There are already Israeli boots on the ground in Iran… covertly. For them to “ take” Fordow, militarily is a nonstarter idea. Not ever going to happen… next speculation..

It's odd that you accuse others of speculation, when you simply repeat the previous assertion with (again) absolutely nothing to back it up.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (s8j++)

104 No matter what happens in Iran, as long as Islam remains it will be a source of trouble to the world. It's not the ayatollahs, it's not the mullahs, it's not the Iranians. It's Islam.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

I read an article several years ago that maintained that even if we got rid of the mullahs, Iran could still be a troublemaker. The Iranians view themselves as the descendants of the ancient (non-Muslim) Achaemenids, entitled to be the dominant, hegemonic power in the Middle East, and so could still try to throw their weight around there.

Islam doesn't help, but it's not the only factor. Even a restored Zoroastrian Iran could still be a huge PITA. It was the Zoroastrians who were the inveterate enemies of ancient Rome, after all, before Islam was on the scene.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (77rzZ)

105 On the upside, the older people in Iran remember the days of the Shah. Yes, there was a secret police but not a lot different than the religious police today. But they do remember the Western ways and the relaxed open sense of liberty. If enough of those older folks today want to return to that, they can. Further, many of the wealthy sent their kids to schools in Europe where they could stay for their entire education. Many remained. That could be the foundation for the future.
Or not. Hell, it's Iran we're talking about.

Posted by: Franco at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (W/lyH)

106 Israel needs to find a way to steal the "moon rock".

Give it to Trump for safe keeping.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (g8Ew8)

107 "The more they over-think the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."

Posted by: Chief Engineer Scott at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (TN0g+)

108 It’s funny how all the pro-Ukraine war people now are mad that the US is selling Israel arms to blow up Iran.

But to be fair, plenty of the reverse as well. Peeps who wanted nothing to do with Ukraine are now on the Bomb Iran to the Stone Age bandwagon.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (/CkK4)

On Ukraine, it's not our fight. (Except of course that our "elites" have been meddling in that country for decades.) We should have kept out noses out of this to start with.

I have no beef with Russia. They abandoned their "DEATH TO AMERICA" crusade when the USSR fell.

Now they are a regional player. Significant, but as long as we stay out of their backyard, they would (mostly) leave us alone. (You know, kind of like a Monroe Doctrine gentleman's agreement.) I don't get the feeling they are really interested in us unless we get in their way.

Meanwhile, Iran has said it wants to destroy the USA, supports terrorist groups and wants to get a nuclear bomb.

Gee, why might people be a little more gung-ho about seeing Iran lose than Russia?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (zjgNU)

109 Skanky lady sock off
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:14 AM (lHAAk)

You know, a -tuah added to your hash would have been perfect.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (kgE5c)

110 There's involved and then there's "involved," we are most definitely, "invovled."

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:19 AM (XV/Pl)

*remembers the difference betweein 'involved' and 'committed.'*

At breakfast, the chicken is involved. The pig is committed.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (lHAAk)

111

My Ani, They Burn!

Posted by: The Mullah With Three Ani at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (gYVB4)

112 Iran is our enemy - their choice. Russia is unfriendly - our choice.

See the difference?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (ExV1e)

No, I really don't.

You think Russia is unfriendly? After we spent hundreds of billions to kill their people? You think they view us as just unfriendly?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:25 AM (dGCAG)

113 Iran’s been a few months away from a nuke for as long as I can remember. Going back to the GWB years. It’s like global warming. Were always 6 month away from the point of no return. And then the date moves out 6 months again.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:18 AM (/CkK4)

So it's bullshit made up by neocons to justify the forever war?

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:25 AM (RqMDa)

114 Compared to every other leader in contemporary time, for us, Trump is handling all of this marvelously… we are fortunate.

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:25 AM (PCK5/)

115 Israel simply cannot operate on the ground in Iran.

If only because Iran is 1,500 miles away from Israel
*******

Except they already *have*. Not divisions of infantry, but mossad had people inside Iran to carry out the drone strikes that allowed the air superiority, and supported it with Spec ops.

There are probably spec ops teams wandering around Iran *now* depending on the goals.

At this point its pretty clear that weather or not Israel started from square one to attempt a regime change and give the people a chance to rise up - they've definitely shifted in that direction.

Weather that actually happens or not, is an open question. But Israel is definitely *trying* give locals a chance, if they'll take it.

Posted by: FrozenTech at June 17, 2025 11:25 AM (Q6XEv)

116 Any truth to the rumor Iranians have been painting lambs blood on the steel doors at Fordow, figuring "hey, it worked to avoid a plague in Egypt, maybe it'll work now...."

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:25 AM (EweYk)

117 @89

>>Kind of what one would expect from an ally, you know.

We're involved more than just giving the means of War, we're also providing SAT, Logistical and direct support through many vectors.

Which I don't mind at all, the day of Iran getting theirs has been a long time coming.

We're the great Satan? Oh you've seen nothing yet Ayatolah!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:25 AM (XV/Pl)

118 But to be fair, plenty of the reverse as well. Peeps who wanted nothing to do with Ukraine are now on the Bomb Iran to the Stone Age bandwagon.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:15 AM (/CkK4)

One of these things is not like the other.

Ok, define: Ukraine always felt fake to me. Completely gay and lame. The faux patriotism we were supposed to display towards their 'dire' situation and the need to shovel cash their way just clanged with me. Combined with the fact that it was all occurring during Chinese Lung AIDS and it felt even more like a dodge.

Iran is a horse of a different color. At least as far as I am concerned. How long have we been doing this enrichment let's make a deal?

Plus, I am not sure what the Israelis are doing is 'bombing them back to the stone age'. This more looks like decapitation and then destroy their ability/desire to do the naughty radioactive things.

YMMV.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:25 AM (bss/y)

119 Seems we've been talking about Iran potentially getting a nuclear weapon for what, three decades by now?

Damn, Iran. Like, shit or get off the pot already.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2025 11:26 AM (KbCG3)

120 Off stupid sock.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 11:26 AM (W/lyH)

121 I ran out of space to say that I also don't think Ukrainians deserve all the death and destruction that's going on, either. But I don't take joy in seeing EITHER Russian or Ukrainian conscripts being loaded into the meat grinder.

I DO enjoy seeing Iranian commander meeting their "12 virgins", though.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 11:26 AM (zjgNU)

122 GBU-27s...GBU-58s. Whatever it takes.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 11:26 AM (W/lyH)

123 I assume the nuclear program is a convenient casus belli, but that this is in reality an extension of the counterattack for 10/7, given Iran's close ties to and support of Hamas. Iran has basically gotten away with waging a proxy terror war on Israel and US interests for decades, ever since the taking of our embassy. It poked a beehive this time.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 11:26 AM (guCHD)

124 Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:14 AM (lHAAk)

You know, a -tuah added to your hash would have been perfect.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (kgE5c)

I could cycle my router for a thousand years and never get there.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:26 AM (lHAAk)

125 Whatever happens, don't let Iranians get to the four black sarcophagus's buried in Antarctic ice!!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:27 AM (EweYk)

126 Fordow's just about dead nuts in the center of Iran. Assuming you successfully drop your team in, how do you get them out?

Rotors? That's not nearly the same as fighter superiority. You must have absolute (read as - complete) control of the entirety of the airspace AND ground all the way in and all the way out, or any Derka with an RPG can ruin your day.

Land fixed wing aircraft on Iranian fields? Same problem.

Reasonable questions, to which I'm absolutely sure the Israelis already have answers.

The village of Fordow, where the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP) is located, is situated near Qom, Iran
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There is a small airport in Qom, Iran called Kushke Nosrat Airport (OIIC). However, it's not clear if this airport is operational for general use or specifically related to the Fordow facility. OurAirports lists 7 airports in Qom Province

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:27 AM (s8j++)

127 So it's bullshit made up by neocons to justify the forever war?
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:25 AM (RqMDa)

Sir I think you may be onto something.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:27 AM (/CkK4)

128 Islam doesn't help, but it's not the only factor. Even a restored Zoroastrian Iran could still be a huge PITA. It was the Zoroastrians who were the inveterate enemies of ancient Rome, after all, before Islam was on the scene.
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The Romans did not bother with the Persians. That was Alexander and his Macedonians and some Greeks. The Persian Empire did not exist in Roman times. I would say that the Romans adopted Persian ways. See their road system.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 11:27 AM (FmapG)

129 Whatever happens, don't let Iranians get to the four black sarcophagus's buried in Antarctic ice!!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:27 AM (EweYk)
_________

"Will everyone just leave me the fuck alone?"

-- The Thing

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:28 AM (iFTx/)

130 (I should also say that I'm VERY happy to let Israel deal with the existential threat rather than us having to do it.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 11:28 AM (zjgNU)

131 103 There are already Israeli boots on the ground in Iran… covertly. For them to “ take” Fordow, militarily is a nonstarter idea. Not ever going to happen… next speculation..

It's odd that you accuse others of speculation, when you simply repeat the previous assertion with (again) absolutely nothing to back it up.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (s8j++)

You well know that all we do here is speculate, that is all we have, and if anything is going to be talked about on this matter it is pure speculation… it is what we do here, all the time. We solve nothing, and usualyy give no insights worth standing on.

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:28 AM (PCK5/)

132 "Off stupid sock."
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Words that Congress-critters should say more often

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:28 AM (EweYk)

133 127 So it's bullshit made up by neocons to justify the forever war?
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:25 AM (RqMDa)

Sir I think you may be onto something.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:27 AM (/CkK4)

Now why would y'all think that?

*Watches the comedy video the republicans put out of W looking for Iraq's WMD.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2025 11:28 AM (KbCG3)

134 Israel has, and is implementing, a different theory of offensive war operations than the US has always relied on. It fits their status as a much smaller country with limited resources, and so far it has been amazingly effective.

The US favors the Big Sledgehammer theory (aka Bush's "Shock and Awe" campaign) Hit all that you can with the biggest hammer you can, see what shakes out. Appropriate tactics for the most well equipped superpower in the world.
Israel, instead, chooses to go for surgical precision. Take out the SAM launchers, take out the missile launchers, take out the radars - and then start picking off all of the key leadership members, one by one. Leave the enemy with it's cities intact, but with no one left in charge of them. Israel destroyed Hezbollah this way, and now they are doing the same to Iran - much of the country is already in chaos.

My guess is that the IRGC is the last thing left holding the country together; but with no coordination from the top, even they won't be able to keep things together for very much longer. It's not clear yet how the breakdown will play out, but its coming nevertheless.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:28 AM (uWKK8)

135 Thx CBD. Just un- dam the river Isen and it will flood the entire facility. Worked in The Two Towers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM (akw+7)

136 125 Whatever happens, don't let Iranians get to the four black sarcophagus's buried in Antarctic ice!!
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Planet X protects the four sarcophagi.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM (FmapG)

137 The Iranians view themselves as the descendants of the ancient (non-Muslim) Achaemenids, entitled to be the dominant, hegemonic power in the Middle East, and so could still try to throw their weight around there.

Being a regional hegemonic power is one thing. Being a "kill the non-believers" regional (hoping for global) hegemonic power is something else.

A Zoroastrian, or whatever, Iran which wants to throw its weight around isn't likely to want to destroy Israel just for the giggles.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM (ExV1e)

138 That's why I hate illogical comparisons. At least after 40 years people stopped comparing every military action by us as another Vietnam.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)

That dead horse finally got atomized.

For what 20 years we heard 'We can't win a war, so we should love the commies!'

Then it became 'We are so hyper competent, we are now a bully!'

Same assholes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM (bss/y)

139 Hasn't Iran been 6 months away from a nuclear bomb for years? I remember Trump saying so in 2016

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:10 AM (RqMDa)

And Israel has been busily sabotaging them, killing their scientists, and in many other ways f*cking up their sh*t.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM (L5An7)

140 Seems we've been talking about Iran potentially getting a nuclear weapon for what, three decades by now?

Damn, Iran. Like, shit or get off the pot already.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2025 11:26 AM (KbCG3)

The most recent report given by our DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, said Iran is not currently working on a nukular weapon program, and there's no evidence they've been doing so, for years.

But maybe she's lying.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM (dGCAG)

141 My guess is that the IRGC is the last thing left holding the country together; but with no coordination from the top, even they won't be able to keep things together for very much longer. It's not clear yet how the breakdown will play out, but its coming nevertheless.
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I would bet there is a shit ton of payback just waiting to happen.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 11:30 AM (FmapG)

142 @129

>>"Will everyone just leave me the fuck alone?"

-- The Thing

Childs: What do we do now?

MacReady: Why don't we just wait here for a little while and see what happens....

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:30 AM (XV/Pl)

143 If the Iranian Regime falls, Fordow becomes irrelevant. Like the German wonderweapon projects after the Reich fell.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 11:30 AM (uWKK8)

144 I have no beef with Russia. They abandoned their "DEATH TO AMERICA" crusade when the USSR fell.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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I think their territorial goals are similar to those under the Tsars, meaning primarily warm water ports and access to the Mediterranean. Also, at least Kharkov in addition to what they have in Ukraine. Maybe even Odessa and the entire Black Sea coast, leaving a rump Ukraine landlocked.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 11:30 AM (ITkJX)

145
You know, a -tuah added to your hash would have been perfect.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (kgE5c)

I could cycle my router for a thousand years and never get there.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:26 AM (lHAAk)
***

I just recycled mine (turned off then back on) and got the same one.
Oh well.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 11:30 AM (W/lyH)

146 Ward "Mooch" Carrol has a map from someone showing the targets hit by Israel.

The black and purple dots represent leaders and scientists, and all are clustered around Tehran.

What is far more troubling is how many yellow dots of nuclear facilities are on this map, all clustered in the center of Iran.

For us lovers of Grumman's F-14s, strike footage is heartbreaking. At least two Iranian F-14s have been hit dead center while parked on the ramp.

And Iran now knows how Germany feels as the Israelis have sent a strike package all the way to Mashad to destroy Iran's sole 747 tanker.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:31 AM (skGot)

147 Korea
Vietnam
Iraq (twice)
Iran

Weird how every decade or so a new country becomes the greatest mostest biggest threat to the US.

Who will it be in the 2040? I’ll take an early bet on Singapore. I mean fuck, why not.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:31 AM (/CkK4)

148 There is a small airport in Qom, Iran called Kushke Nosrat Airport (OIIC). However, it's not clear if this airport is operational for general use or specifically related to the Fordow facility. OurAirports lists 7 airports in Qom Province

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:27 AM (s8j++)

And if Israel controlled a 1-mile wide strip from the Iraqi border to Qom, and all the space between Qom and Tehran (90 miles), it could absolutely be done.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:32 AM (lHAAk)

149 And Israel has been busily sabotaging them, killing their scientists, and in many other ways f*cking up their sh*t.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM (L5An7)

Half measures that proved not to be working.

Honestly, Israel has to be applauded for saying 'Ok, this is not working. Let's try something else?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:32 AM (bss/y)

150 You think they view us as just unfriendly?

Putin, as recently as 2025, was talking about trade deals with the US. The man on the street would likely been just fine with a peaceful relationship with the US. We're the ones who're constantly pushing the hostility.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:32 AM (ExV1e)

151 Your country kills whoever it wants. Own it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:18 AM (dGCAG)

Not your country? Then f*cking leave.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:32 AM (L5An7)

152 @147

>>Who will it be in the 2040? I’ll take an early bet on Singapore. I mean fuck, why not.

My money is on Suriname. They are just hiding out and biding their time.

You heard it here first.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:32 AM (XV/Pl)

153 So, how are negotiations with the US and/or Trump going to go for anyone in the future, when people are gleefully proclaiming how the last negotiations were really to fuck the country we're negotiating with? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 17, 2025 11:32 AM (MZ+PY)

154 151 Your country kills whoever it wants. Own it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:18 AM (dGCAG)

Not your country? Then f*cking leave.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:32 AM (L5An7)

I was going to comment on that, but didn’t..

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (PCK5/)

155 The most recent report given by our DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, said Iran is not currently working on a nukular weapon program, and there's no evidence they've been doing so, for years.

But maybe she's lying.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM (dGCAG)

Or, maybe when she said that, back in March, she'd not yet been privy to the intelligence to which she is privy now.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (lHAAk)

156 @LakewoodCOgov
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Lakewood city offices will be closed on Thursday, June 19, in observance of the Juneteenth holiday.

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (AOsQT)

157 If the Iranian Regime falls, Fordow becomes irrelevant. Like the German wonderweapon projects after the Reich fell.

And if the new regime said "Sure, we'll allow you into the facility to destroy it", it will solve a host of problems. That would be the smart play. I'm not holding my breath, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (s8j++)

158 At the same time, I wish Mooch and his guest would STFU because they are discussing how many tankers Israel has and guestimating of US tanker support.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (skGot)

159 One of the catalysts that kicked off this war was the IAEA's claim that Iran was "weeks away" from being able to assemble multiple nuclear warheads/bombs. Weeks. Not months or years. They'd been enriching Uranium way past agreed levels and had enough of the stuff to make bombs. Whether they'd work as advertised is debatable. That they'd use them isn't.

And dismantling Iran's nuclear weapons program is going to have to be done, at least in part, from within Iran.

To quote: "It's the only way to be sure."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (Q4IgG)

160 153 So, how are negotiations with the US and/or Trump going to go for anyone in the future, when people are gleefully proclaiming how the last negotiations were really to fuck the country we're negotiating with? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 17, 2025 11:32 AM (MZ+PY)

=======

Desperation is a powerful motivator. Especially when you yourself (Iran) were using the previous negotiations in the same manner.

The only way to stop that sort of manipulation is tit for tat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (GBKbO)

161 Ever since the Iranians took out the Marine Barracks in Beirut I have been waiting patiently for justice. Thank you Israel.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (ugxa6)

162 You'll know the Iranian mullahs are on thin ice if you see the Kurds in the NE and the Baluchis in the SW begin rising up. The ethnic minorities will try and take advantage of the chaos

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (akw+7)

163 Weird how every decade or so a new country becomes the greatest mostest biggest threat to the US.

Who will it be in the 2040? I’ll take an early bet on Singapore. I mean fuck, why not.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:31 AM (/CkK4)

Ok, for a moment, put yourself in Israel's shoes. You are God Dictator of Israel. You care about your people. This is Crusader Kings/EUIV. Given everything that has happened up to this point, given 10/7, what do you do?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:34 AM (bss/y)

164 Meanwhile, Iran has said it wants to destroy the USA, supports terrorist groups and wants to get a nuclear bomb.

And given the general inability of Islamics to target missiles reliably, if Iran had the bomb anything within flight range could be threatened unintentionally. Egypt, Saudi, India, Ukraine, Greece, all of the former Soviet -stans, the list goes on and on.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 17, 2025 11:34 AM (2ocoG)

165 It's funny.

The UN itself said that Iran was out of compliance on the nuclear deal the day before Israel started bombing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)

166 What are the odds that Israel dicedes to take the Iranian plant by force. Lay waste to everything within 200 miles of the entrance and then land a force of people to crack there way in and over run the plant. Drop tank tenders and howitzers blast the doors, then drag the shit away blast again.

I know it's not optimal, but would even 5 gbu 57s Crack 1/2 mile of mountain?

I am not a military expert.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 11:34 AM (OA79/)

167 Another option would be to fly drones with canisters of radioactive waste into the tunnels leading to the laboratories

Or drop snail darters in the containment ponds. Shut that place down!

Posted by: The EPA at June 17, 2025 11:34 AM (G7MqD)

168 153 So, how are negotiations with the US and/or Trump going to go for anyone in the future, when people are gleefully proclaiming how the last negotiations were really to fuck the country we're negotiating with? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder

Carrot and stick method most likely to succeed when the stick does gets used occassionally.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 11:34 AM (Dv3i1)

169 Whatever happens, don't let Iranians get to the four black sarcophagus's buried in Antarctic ice!!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:27 AM (EweYk)

I heard they already have 5 of the 7 Dragon balls that would summon the eternal dragon, Shenron!

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:34 AM (dGCAG)

170 151 Your country kills whoever it wants. Own it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:18 AM (dGCAG)

Watch out for La Migra! Maybe it'd be better to self-deport.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:34 AM (lHAAk)

171 It is up to the Iranian people to gift the world a solid and depose of the Weird Beards. 46 years of dogshit is still dogshit so sack up there Farshid Daghestani and get it done and stop eating olives and pistachios and playing with yourself.

Posted by: Old Iron Pants at June 17, 2025 11:35 AM (lbkx/)

172 I was stunned last night while watching the news at the nonchalance with which Hannity and other were tossing around the idea of using a "small" tactical nuke to ensure destruction of the buried sites.
WTF???
Considering the tactics, I can see how that might solve the immediate problem, but, I firmly believe that once that cat is out of the bag, it's out for good. A nuke is a nuke and size doesn't matter.
Scary times.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 11:35 AM (W/lyH)

173 Or, maybe when she said that, back in March, she'd not yet been privy to the intelligence to which she is privy now.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (lHAAk)

Sure.

That's it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:36 AM (dGCAG)

174 >>Lakewood city offices will be closed on Thursday, June 19, in observance of the Juneteenth holiday.

It's not a Holiday. Never was. Never will be.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 11:36 AM (uZ2FS)

175 161 Ever since the Iranians took out the Marine Barracks in Beirut I have been waiting patiently for justice. Thank you Israel.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (ugxa6)

Yep. No negotiations make Iran surrender to Israel with no conditions.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 11:36 AM (OA79/)

176 Drop a bunch of Teslas on the place, ones with cracked battery cases…

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:36 AM (PCK5/)

177 Iran's war with the US started in 1979 when they took the US embassy while shouting "Death to America!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:36 AM (skGot)

178 And if the new regime said "Sure, we'll allow you into the facility to destroy it", it will solve a host of problems. That would be the smart play. I'm not holding my breath, though.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (s8j++)

Or a new regime could use it as a bargaining chip. An endless ATM to be able to gain concessions from.

I dunno, assuming a rational replacement might be pretty ... baseless given the circumstances. It would probably be some other useless commie assholes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:36 AM (bss/y)

179 173 Or, maybe when she said that, back in March, she'd not yet been privy to the intelligence to which she is privy now.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (lHAAk)

Sure.

That's it.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:36 AM (dGCAG)

Neither one is particularly reassuring.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 17, 2025 11:37 AM (KbCG3)

180 The 7 times stronger than Viagra lady got a new sweater.

Posted by: Didja notice? at June 17, 2025 11:37 AM (y/iut)

181 It is up to the Iranian people to gift the world a solid and depose of the Weird Beards. 46 years of dogshit is still dogshit so sack up there Farshid Daghestani and get it done and stop eating olives and pistachios and playing with yourself.

It boils down to this. A little wordsmithing might be in order, but otherwise...

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:37 AM (s8j++)

182 Trump has been consistent on his stance on Iran.

1. Iran will not have a nuclear weapon.
2. If Iran attacks the US, he will end them.

So far I have not seen any change in that stance.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 17, 2025 11:37 AM (u73oe)

183 Desperation is a powerful motivator.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (GBKbO)

That's true. If you are weapons manufacturers, and you are running out of wars, you get deserpate.

If you are an Israeli PM who will almost certainly go to prison as soon as he's out of office, you get desperate.

If they have blackmail videos of you banging underaged children, you get desperate.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:38 AM (dGCAG)

184 139 Hasn't Iran been 6 months away from a nuclear bomb for years? I remember Trump saying so in 2016

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:10 AM (RqMDa)

And Israel has been busily sabotaging them, killing their scientists, and in many other ways f*cking up their sh*t.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM (L5An7)
So we don't need to go to war to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear bomb. Problem solved.

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:38 AM (RqMDa)

185 @166

>>I am not a military expert.

It's too far down for bunker busters to work.

If it's to be taken out, it's got to be done the old fashioned way.

A dance off to distract the guards and then the strike team infiltrates the facility and law waste to it from the inside.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:38 AM (XV/Pl)

186 Korea
Vietnam
Iraq (twice)
Iran

Weird how every decade or so a new country becomes the greatest mostest biggest threat to the US.

Who will it be in the 2040? I’ll take an early bet on Singapore. I mean fuck, why not.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:31 AM (/CkK4)

Korea - boots on the ground
Vietnam - boots on the ground
Iraq (twice) - boots on the ground
Iran - we're not even actively involved in the bombing campaign

Further, Iran has been at war with the US, by their actions, since 1979.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:38 AM (ExV1e)

187 Half measures that proved not to be working.

Honestly, Israel has to be applauded for saying 'Ok, this is not working. Let's try something else?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:32 AM (bss/y)

I'm not sure that Israel thought that their sabotage was going to destroy the nuclear program. They just hoped to keep delaying it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:39 AM (L5An7)

188 I’ll take an early bet on Singapore. I mean fuck, why not.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:31 AM (/CkK4)
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Singapore is half the size of Los Angeles in swuare miles, so thats a toughie

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:39 AM (ugxa6)

189 The Romans did not bother with the Persians. That was Alexander and his Macedonians and some Greeks. The Persian Empire did not exist in Roman times. I would say that the Romans adopted Persian ways. See their road system.
Posted by: pudinhead

Dude, the Romans and Persians were at each others' throats constantly. Crassus was killed leading troops against them, and Gallienus captured. Julian the Apostate died during his Persian campaign.

And, true, it wasn't the Achaemenids, but the Parthian and Sassanian Empires, who were the Achaemenids' successors.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:39 AM (77rzZ)

190 185 @166

>>I am not a military expert.

It's too far down for bunker busters to work.

If it's to be taken out, it's got to be done the old fashioned way.

A dance off to distract the guards and then the strike team infiltrates the facility and law waste to it from the inside.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:38 AM (XV/Pl)

So force ten from navarrone electric boogaloo.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 11:39 AM (OA79/)

191 In his first term Trump defeated ISIS with little American loss...if he does the same with Iran...greatest American foreign policy president since Reagan...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 11:40 AM (t0Rmr)

192 "Should the United States sell to Israel the ordnance needed to destroy their nuclear facilities? Absolutely. Should America drop those bombs ourselves? Absolutely not!"

******
Eh...If Israel can distroy Iran's nuculear facilities all by them selves, that is cool.

If they can't, I have no problem with an assist.

I don't support invading and occupying Iran like we did with Iraq.

But, if we do a few bomb runs with the B2 carrying the MOB, and that wipes out Iran's program long term...I can accept that.

But if Israel can do it alone, that's cool too.

Posted by: EFG at June 17, 2025 11:40 AM (Xt8HN)

193 A dance off to distract the guards

Ixnay on the ance-off day. Don't give away the plan.

Posted by: Mossad at June 17, 2025 11:40 AM (s8j++)

194 Or drop snail darters in the containment ponds. Shut that place down!

Related: I saw a news item yesterday that 18 months later, Maui has had 4 homes rebuilt out of over 2,000 destroyed. Local (mostly native) zoning boards won't issue permits, and when the (D) governor of Hawaii tried to intervene the ACLU and Sierra Club sued him on the grounds of being "a genocidal dictator" and won, because Hawaiian judge.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 17, 2025 11:40 AM (2ocoG)

195 unfortunately there is no way you can prove that a military action initiated to prevent a possible danger to the country was necessary since we will never know if that predicted danger would have occurred without the military action.

its what those that are against any military action always claim to be the case, that military wasn't necessary and there is no way to prove definitively they are wrong.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 11:40 AM (VofaG)

196 Or, maybe when she said that, back in March, she'd not yet been privy to the intelligence to which she is privy now.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (lHAAk)

Sure.

That's it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2025 11:36 AM (dGCAG)

Let's see what she actually said...

Gabbard said it was the assessment of the intelligence community that "Iran is not currently building a nuclear weapon."

She did not say "Iran has no nuclear weapons program."

To me, that's a significant distinction.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:40 AM (lHAAk)

197 Inglorius Basterds.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 11:40 AM (P9gC0)

198 In local news, the Dodgers have banned Little Nezza after her stupid stunt.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:40 AM (skGot)

199 Considering the tactics, I can see how that might solve the immediate problem, but, I firmly believe that once that cat is out of the bag, it's out for good. A nuke is a nuke and size doesn't matter.
Scary times.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 11:35 AM (W/lyH)

Yeah, it is a psychological red line that the west has not been willing to cross. Indeed, no one has. In the east China/NorKo seem to want them as status symbols. The middle east seem to want one just to use, but they never seem to get one.

It would be an interesting thought experiment. Give Iran a fully operational minuteman. With a secret self destruct. See what they do with it. If they get squirrelly and start punching in Tel Aviv, detonate.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:40 AM (bss/y)

200 So we don't need to go to war to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear bomb. Problem solved.

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:38 AM (RqMDa)

The sabotage delayed the program, but did not destroy it. And their ballistic missile program was still going strong.

How long should Israel have waited? Until the nuke was in the air along with 500 conventional missiles?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:41 AM (L5An7)

201 its what those that are against any military action always claim to be the case, that military wasn't necessary and there is no way to prove definitively they are wrong.

Which is very convenient if you aren't the target.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:41 AM (s8j++)

202 Construct a giant badger.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 11:42 AM (P9gC0)

203 Being a regional hegemonic power is one thing. Being a "kill the non-believers" regional (hoping for global) hegemonic power is something else.

A Zoroastrian, or whatever, Iran which wants to throw its weight around isn't likely to want to destroy Israel just for the giggles.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Probably not Israel, but I could still see them allying with the Chinese and/or Russians against us.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:42 AM (77rzZ)

204 Gabbard said it was the assessment of the intelligence community that "Iran is not currently building a nuclear weapon."

She did not say "Iran has no nuclear weapons program."

To me, that's a significant distinction.

One wonders why they needed to continue enrichment to a level useful only for a nuke. Ah, I'm sure it's nothing.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:42 AM (s8j++)

205 She also said: "Iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:42 AM (lHAAk)

206 I was stunned last night while watching the news at the nonchalance with which Hannity and other were tossing around the idea of using a "small" tactical nuke to ensure destruction of the buried sites.

I recall numerous people in these very comments tossing around the idea of using a tactical nuke on Gaza.

Lots of people are free with their admiration of nuclear weapons.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:43 AM (ExV1e)

207 A dance off to distract the guards and then the strike team infiltrates the facility and law waste to it from the inside.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:38 AM (XV/Pl)

Fly in Sydney Sweeney in a bikini. Have her on a loudspeaker talking about how horny she is and how she wish some swarthy dudes would come haul her ashes.

Walk into the empty facility.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:43 AM (bss/y)

208 >>>At the same time, I wish Mooch and his guest would STFU because they are discussing how many tankers Israel has and guestimating of US tanker support. Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:33 AM (skGot)

You're actually listening to the whole Michelle Obama podcast? You're a far braver woman than I.

Apparently it hasn't been the influencer dream project they thought it would be. I'm hearing it's turning young libs off to hear her gripe and complain all the time, when she leads a privileged and charmed life. She's not happy or grateful, and is clearly resentful of Barack, and it's tarnishing her carefully crafted brand. Finally. I think we all saw through the schtick, but I get for the true believers it takes a while.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 11:43 AM (gWBY1)

209 @202

>>Construct a giant badger.

What if you... here me out... constructed a number of giant badger and dropped them from Zeppelin's right into the heart of Tehran?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:43 AM (XV/Pl)

210 >>Let's see what she actually said...

Gabbard said it was the assessment of the intelligence community that "Iran is not currently building a nuclear weapon."

That's too vague to value as a statement.

I mean, they could be on a smoke break and that statement is still valid.

What we DO know is that in 30+ years of 'Pursuing a Peaceful Domestic Nuclear Energy Program', Iran managed to build and operate 1 Reactor.

One.

And yet, kept pushing the enrichment well beyond the needs of Domestic Energy Programs.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 11:43 AM (uZ2FS)

211 I'm still leaning towards the hummus offensive.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 11:43 AM (BpO1e)

212 One wonders why they needed to continue enrichment to a level useful only for a nuke. Ah, I'm sure it's nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:42 AM (s8j++)

Exactly.

"We don't think they're literally building a nuclear bomb right this minute" is not the same as "We don't think they're working toward a nuclear bomb.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (lHAAk)

213 And Israel has been busily sabotaging them, killing their scientists, and in many other ways f*cking up their sh*t.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM

Deprive the enemy of nice things.

- Stuff Sun Tzu might have said

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (kgE5c)

214 If Israel has managed to cut off power to all those 15,000 centrifuges, then the nuclear program is deader than Stalin. And the Mullahs will have to dig out another mountain to start again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (skGot)

215 I mean there must be some air vents we can drop some grenades down or something. 20 seconds is all i need. Git up offa that thing!

Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (OA79/)

216 A dance off to distract the guards and then the strike team infiltrates the facility and law waste to it from the inside.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:38 AM (XV/Pl)

Fly in Sydney Sweeney in a bikini. Have her on a loudspeaker talking about how horny she is and how she wish some swarthy dudes would come haul her ashes.

Walk into the empty facility.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:43 AM (bss/y)
__________

That plan would probably be more successful if you used virgin goats as bait

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (iFTx/)

217 How does the IAEA know that? They sent inspectors there 45 minutes after the bomb strikes?
Posted by: Elric Blade

Must've had someone on site. Y'know, "inspecting" things to make sure the Iranians ~~knew where to find him to send his bribe~~ were on the up-and-up

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (hB7mE)

218 200

The sabotage delayed the program, but did not destroy it. And their ballistic missile program was still going strong.

How long should Israel have waited? Until the nuke was in the air along with 500 conventional missiles?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:41 AM (L5An7)

The place has had a sword over its’ head since 1948… 77 years… that’s a lot of restraint.

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (PCK5/)

219 Islam is a cancer on the world. Take out the Iranian mullahs and you remove a large tumor. I am aware that the Sauds have blood on their hands but all things being equal they're relatively tame at this point. Glad the Israelis are doing it , the Iranian people have to do the rest.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (akw+7)

220 Whatever happens, don't let Iranians get to the four black sarcophagus's buried in Antarctic ice!!
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Planet X protects the four sarcophagi.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 11:29 AM (FmapG)

We need to execute Plan 9 post haste.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (g8Ew8)

221 We all saw the pictures of miles of cars leaving Tehran. I wonder how many people are left behind to carry on resistance, even conduct a revolution.

They better do it quick. Power is lying in the gutter, waiting for someone to pick it up.

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (AOsQT)

222
Tulsi Gabbard, Krist Noem, Pam Bondi...

May be filling diversity positions that Trump likes to see.

Better than looking at Lloyd Austin at a cabinet meeting.

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (j4U/Z)

223 So we don't need to go to war to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear bomb. Problem solved.
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:38 AM (RqMDa)

Are we at war?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (ExV1e)

224 Trump has been very consistent on this: Iran cannot have a nuke. Period. I wholeheartedly agree with this bottom line

I truly believe Israel is doing us and the whole world frankly a huge solid by taking the concrete and necessary actions to assure that bottom line. How could anyone possibly complain?? We just get to stand back, provide some moral and maybe logistical support and they do the heavy lifting. I’d give them a big thank you… the world will be a safer place

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (+kWhq)

225 LizLem

Ward "Mooch" Carrol, a former US Navy Tomcat RIO

Not Mooch the First Linebacker.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (skGot)

226 Regime change is like a box of chocolates. You just have no idea what's in that thing until you bite its head off.

What's in Iran? Probably a new axis of radical Shiites, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and Islamist elements in Egypt and the former Syria.

I don't want any part of that shit. My hope is that SA and Israel can figure out a way to present a united front. If SA and Israel agree on something, it might work. They have common enemies and that's a start.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (MX0bI)

227 195 unfortunately there is no way you can prove that a military action initiated to prevent a possible danger to the country was necessary since we will never know if that predicted danger would have occurred without the military action.

its what those that are against any military action always claim to be the case, that military wasn't necessary and there is no way to prove definitively they are wrong.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 11:40 AM (VofaG)

Those for military action are also pretty fond of that argument in reverse. "The only way to be sure..." I recall years of war being sold on the flypaper strategy, which, like the domino theory, isn't exactly scientific.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (guCHD)

228 I think we roll a giant horse up to Fordow, as a gift, with SF guys inside and when the solders roll the gift inside, boom! We win.

Just an idea I thought up.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (ugxa6)

229 200 So we don't need to go to war to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear bomb. Problem solved.

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:38 AM (RqMDa)

The sabotage delayed the program, but did not destroy it. And their ballistic missile program was still going strong.

How long should Israel have waited? Until the nuke was in the air along with 500 conventional missiles?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:41 AM

The old way worked for over 30 years, keep doing the same thing for another 30.

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (RqMDa)

230 Honestly, Israel has to be applauded for saying 'Ok, this is not working. Let's try something else?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:32 AM (bss/y)
***

I recall years ago, I was an escort officer to some Israeli officers visiting Ft Sill, the home of the US Army Artillery. We were showing them a mock-up of a village used to train our Forward Observers. It was very German in its appearance and the briefing officer pointed that out. The Israeli colonel I was escorting just smiled and said, "We will not be fighting in Germany."

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (W/lyH)

231 How long should Israel have waited? Until the nuke was in the air along with 500 conventional missiles?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 11:41 AM (L5An7)

I think 10/7 crystalized some thinking in Israel that the delay tactics were not sufficient because it ignored the Hezbollah raining missles on Israel every day and led to them trying bigger stunts because Israel did not react to that kind of thing.

Iran was like an annoying shit who just kept poking the quiet guy, looking for a reaction. Well, they finally got it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (bss/y)

232 @223

>>Are we at war?

We are, as ever, always at war and also never at war, simultaneously.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 11:46 AM (XV/Pl)

233 In local news, the Dodgers have banned Little Nezza after her stupid stunt.

I think "Nezza' means "Whore who does butt stuff" in Spanglish.

Posted by: The Flying Burrito Brothers at June 17, 2025 11:46 AM (lbkx/)

234 Construct a giant badger.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 11:42 AM

Fetchez la vache!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 11:46 AM (kgE5c)

235 229 The old way worked for over 30 years, keep doing the same thing for another 30.
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (RqMDa)

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*Iran continues to fund Hamas and Hezbollah*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)

236 So, how are negotiations with the US and/or Trump going to go for anyone in the future, when people are gleefully proclaiming how the last negotiations were really to fuck the country we're negotiating with? Asking for a friend.
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IF the country we're negotiating with is one of the supreme ASSHOLE countries of the world that funds terror and regularly exports it to its neighbors, I would hope said country is worried to death that the US is just stalling for time until that country is annihilated.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 11:47 AM (TN0g+)

237 Weird how every decade or so a new country becomes the greatest mostest biggest threat to the US.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 11:31 AM (/CkK4)

Dude, Iran has been a major threat to us and the rest of the world since 1979. That's over FIVE decades.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:47 AM (77rzZ)

238 That plan would probably be more successful if you used virgin goats as bait
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (iFTx/)

Valid.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:47 AM (bss/y)

239 The old way worked for over 30 years, keep doing the same thing for another 30.

Seriously? The old way worked well for the czars, until it didn't.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:47 AM (s8j++)

240 “I Don’t Care What She Said” — Trump Publicly Rebukes His Own Intelligence Chief Tulsi Gabbard on Iran’s Nuclear Capabilities

Uh oh. Cracks forming in the thin veneer of fabulousness.

Posted by: Giant Squid at June 17, 2025 11:47 AM (/U5Yz)

241 > Gabbard said it was the assessment of the intelligence community that "Iran is not currently building a nuclear weapon."

She did not say "Iran has no nuclear weapons program."

To me, that's a significant distinction.
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Personally, I think Iran had all the "parts" they needed to assemble multiple nuclear bombs/warheads.

All. The. Parts.

The only unknown was how long it'd take them to do it. And whether they'd work. What isn't unknown is that they'd use them.

Now the question is how to keep the Iranian's from doing all this again. Their current leadership would do everything in their power to reconstitute this program. That's one problem. The other is what to do with the infrastructure that supports the manufacturing of nuclear weapons inside Iran.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)

242 Mechanized combat badgers...

GET DARPA ON THE PHONE. NOW.

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 11:48 AM (AOsQT)

243 Exploding goats?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:48 AM (skGot)

244 Probably not Israel, but I could still see them allying with the Chinese and/or Russians against us.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:42 AM (77rzZ)

We could beat them to the punch and befriend Russia ourselves as Russia has been requesting for 25 years now.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 11:48 AM (ExV1e)

245 Tulsi Gabbard, Krist Noem, Pam Bondi...

May be filling diversity positions that Trump likes to see.

Better than looking at Lloyd Austin at a cabinet meeting.
Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (j4U/Z)

They are nice to look at. I can’t think of any attractive lib politicians; probably are some I can’t think of. NOT AOC

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 17, 2025 11:48 AM (+kWhq)

246 Off slimy mollusc sock

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 11:48 AM (/U5Yz)

247 We are, as ever, always at war and also never at war, simultaneously.

Ah, Schrodinger's Spat.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 11:48 AM (s8j++)

248 That plan would probably be more successful if you used virgin goats as bait
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (iFTx/)
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Line there are virgin goats for 1,000 miles in any direction of Fordow

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:49 AM (ugxa6)

249 Let's see what she actually said...

Gabbard said it was the assessment of the intelligence community that "Iran is not currently building a nuclear weapon."

That's too vague to value as a statement.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 11:43 AM (uZ2FS)
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I don't see the controversy in what she said. She is correct. Nobody is saying that Iran is currently building an actual nuclear weapon. What Iran indisputably is doing is developing weapons-grade enrichment. That's a prelude to building an actual nuclear weapon. You don't wait until your enemies are building -- or built -- an actual functioning nuclear weapon. You destroy them during the enrichment state, before they're capable of building an actual weapon.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)

250 Gabbard’s thing is keeping the US out of wars, it seems like… her statement sort of reflects her bias, maybe.

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:49 AM (PCK5/)

251 Or people are reading way too much of their own biases into it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:49 AM (skGot)

252 That plan would probably be more successful if you used virgin goats as bait
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:44 AM (iFTx/)
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Line there are virgin goats for 1,000 miles in any direction of Fordow
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:49 AM (ugxa6)
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Hence why it would work!

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 11:50 AM (iFTx/)

253 235 229 The old way worked for over 30 years, keep doing the same thing for another 30.
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (RqMDa)

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*Iran continues to fund Hamas and Hezbollah*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)

So it is regime change once again? What is the end game here?

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:50 AM (RqMDa)

254 Your country kills whoever it wants. Own it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June
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I KNEW IT!! BURT IS PERUVIAN!!!!

Posted by: LOL at June 17, 2025 11:50 AM (JFNRR)

255 251 Or people are reading way too much of their own biases into it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:49 AM (skGot)

The Horde has biases?? The hell you say!!

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:50 AM (PCK5/)

256 I don't know why we have to have these huge ICE raids. If we just do more to have them self deport everything will work out.

The raids are totally unnecessary. Look at the protests they produced.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 11:50 AM (VofaG)

257 Oh no the NAACP isn't inviting Trump to their convention. Trump will troll them somehow

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM (akw+7)

258 It seems Israel has prepared for and war-gammed this action with assets on the ground for many years. I would be surprised that they have no plan for taking out Fordow. But, what do I know, wait and see?
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (+V9k3)

This is why the chatter about whether or not the US gets involved is silly. Israel is clearly taking the operation seriously, so every bit of it is meticulously planned.

That already either includes US participation, which means Trump agreed to it long ago, or it does not. Trump's not just going to decide on the fly to send bombers in with targets that have been picked in the last couple of days, and Israel wouldn't want him to as coordinating would interfere with their existing plans.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM (Dnobf)

259 So force ten from navarrone electric boogaloo.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless

Hotsie Totsie Terrors

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM (j4U/Z)

260 The Horde has biases?? The hell you say!!

Do you like crossbows or 9mm?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM (skGot)

261 Oh no the NAACP isn't inviting Trump to their convention. Trump will troll them somehow
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM

Oh, no!

Anyway...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM (kgE5c)

262 If Trump's first predicate, Iran will not have nuclear weapons, is achieved and leaves the Mullahs in power the political situation in Iran becomes unpredictable. Would the Revolutionary Guard, the power behind the Mullahs, make a play to seize control of the country? This could bring them into direct conflict with the military, possibly headed by the Shah in exile, which might get sporty if they see an opportunity arise. Then there's the population which I've read are restless to see the mullahs and the Revolutionary Guard trashed. Will the Mullahs make effectively a partial unconditional surrender? If no, that there would seem to force Trump's hand on his second predicate of wiping them out If they don't make a deal. What a mess.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM (NXz8h)

263 >>Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)

Yep. At a certain point, Breakout is merely a matter of will.

If they finally got their hands on the trigger mechs and ballistic missile tech...you can't leave that last little push up to them, if you are Israel.

On top of pissing in the Iranian Nuke Programs Wheaties in order to slow it, Israel and the US have been keeping China, Pakistan and North Korea from providing Nukes to Iran by other means.

This has been a global issue for quite some time. Hopefully the Iranian population will solve this now that Israel has opened the door for them.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM (uZ2FS)

264 251 Or people are reading way too much of their own biases into it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:49 AM (skGot)

This is ALWAYS true.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM (bss/y)

265 As someone here pointed out last week, everything is funnier if you hear Gilbert Gottfried's voice in your head as your reading the words.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 11:52 AM (TN0g+)

266 Having their asses kicked and their shit blown all to hell could be a clever war plan strategy on the part of Iran!

Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2025 11:52 AM (a4dG3)

267 257 Oh no the NAACP isn't inviting Trump to their convention. Trump will troll them somehow
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Isn't "Colored People" raciss?

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 11:53 AM (j4U/Z)

268 Gilbert Gottfried?

Now there's a parrot I would like to strangle.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 11:53 AM (skGot)

269 253 *Iran continues to fund Hamas and Hezbollah*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)

So it is regime change once again? What is the end game here?
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:50 AM (RqMDa)

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Punishing those hurting you is a good goal for Israel.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)

270
@IsraelWarRoom
2h
17 US aerial refueling tankers are heading from Europe towards the @CENTCOM AOR, reports @AmichaiStein1.

👀Multiple squadrons of American fighter jets are also headed towards the Middle East, reports indicate.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 11:53 AM (Ffc+8)

271 Who will it be in the 2040? I’ll take an early bet on Singapore. I mean fuck, why not.

Keep your eye on the sleeping giant that is Greenland.

Posted by: Gerardus Mercator at June 17, 2025 11:53 AM (GUvny)

272 265 As someone here pointed out last week, everything is funnier if you hear Gilbert Gottfried's voice in your head as your reading the words.
Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 11:52 AM (TN0g+)

266 Having their asses kicked and their shit blown all to hell could be a clever war plan strategy on the part of Iran!
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2025 11:52 AM (a4dG3)

Ok, I tried it with Weasel's comment.

You're right, Crusader! LOL.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:53 AM (bss/y)

273 The old way worked for over 30 years, keep doing the same thing for another 30.

Seriously? The old way worked well for the czars, until it didn't.
Posted by: Archimedes

And when it no longer did, it was a huge deal.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 11:53 AM (PfGa7)

274 This is ALWAYS true.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM (bss/y)
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The hell you say!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:54 AM (ugxa6)

275 How about we just borrow Israel a B2. Kind of like lend lease? They can rent it, but if they scratch the paint, no damage deposit! Seriously. Iran is the worlkds biggest exporter of terrorism. They wish to destroy Israel and the U.S. It IS America first to help Israel. No, I am not advocating troops etc. I don't think that's needed. They are responsible for thousands of US deaths. But for some, their hatred of Joos outweighs their alleged love of their country.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 11:54 AM (ewjUl)

276 Just destroy anything within 50 or so miles that generates electrical power. Anything with a significant infrared heat signature.

Without electrical power and cooling, nothing can really be done to manufacture anything other than spears and clubs.

Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 17, 2025 11:54 AM (QB+5g)

277 =======

Punishing those hurting you is a good goal for Israel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
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There is only one punishment that will cause this to cease.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 11:54 AM (Ffc+8)

278 It's not the ayatollahs, it's not the mullahs, it's not the Iranians. It's Islam.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

^^^^^^^

Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 11:54 AM (n4GiU)

279 269 253 *Iran continues to fund Hamas and Hezbollah*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)

So it is regime change once again? What is the end game here?
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:50 AM (RqMDa)

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Punishing those hurting you is a good goal for Israel.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)

Again, and what is the end game?

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:54 AM (RqMDa)

280 So it is regime change once again? What is the end game here?
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Anything short of regime change is just kicking the can down the road.

Regime change doesn't have to include US troops on the ground. It simply means Israel (with or without us) simply says the bombardment will continue until there is a different government to begin talks with.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 11:55 AM (TN0g+)

281 279 Punishing those hurting you is a good goal for Israel.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)

Again, and what is the end game?
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:54 AM (RqMDa)

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To get them to stop.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:55 AM (GBKbO)

282 You could beat Singapore by showing up in their country and sticking used chewing gum under everything . And graffiti

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 11:55 AM (akw+7)

283 247 We are, as ever, always at war and also never at war, simultaneously.

Ah, Schrodinger's Spat.
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Oceana is always at war with East Asia.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 11:55 AM (FmapG)

284 >Isn't "Colored People" raciss?

Posted by: Auspex
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depends on who's saying it

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 11:55 AM (AOsQT)

285 Fly in Sydney Sweeney in a bikini.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Tara Yazdi. She has bigger boobs and is actually of Persian heritage.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 11:55 AM (77rzZ)

286 Israel already has Giant Aircraft… did you not see the pics of the one that the Iranians shot down??? PROOF, people, proof!!

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:56 AM (PCK5/)

287 Israel got Egypt to stop hurting them at one point. And Jordan.

But Iran will never, ever stop and will only continue forever, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)

288 282 You could beat Singapore by showing up in their country and sticking used chewing gum under everything . And graffiti
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I guess you've never tasted the Singapore Cane?

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 11:56 AM (FmapG)

289 Oh no the NAACP isn't inviting Trump to their convention. Trump will troll them somehow
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 11:51 AM (akw+7)

It's 2025 My Bro Zillas! Do we really need a group of liberals running around calling themselves "colored" telling black Americans what to think, how to vote, and how to be racist? The times they are a changing!

Posted by: President Donald Trump, Shot Caller at June 17, 2025 11:56 AM (lbkx/)

290 Anything short of regime change is just kicking the can down the road.

Regime change doesn't have to include US troops on the ground. It simply means Israel (with or without us) simply says the bombardment will continue until there is a different government to begin talks with.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 11:55 AM (TN0g+)
Yeah, that worked so well in Iraq right?

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:56 AM (RqMDa)

291 >>How about we just borrow Israel a B2. Kind of like lend lease?

I like this idea...

Throw an Ad up on Craigslist 'MOAB Equipped B2 Bomber FS', and let Israel come on over to 'Test Drive' it.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 11:56 AM (uZ2FS)

292 So, how are negotiations with the US and/or Trump going to go for anyone in the future, when people are gleefully proclaiming how the last negotiations were really to fuck the country we're negotiating with? Asking for a friend.
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If the other guy at the table is serious about avoiding a conflict (Iran wasn't) he'll just have to make concessions quicker.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 11:56 AM (Dnobf)

293 @IsraelWarRoom
2h
17 US aerial refueling tankers are heading from Europe towards the @CENTCOM AOR, reports @AmichaiStein1.

👀Multiple squadrons of American fighter jets are also headed towards the Middle East, reports indicate.
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Time for the DC strategy sessions to switch it up--order Taco Bell and KFC tonight to keep the pizza-tracking intelligence systems offline.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 11:57 AM (TN0g+)

294 Punishing those hurting you is a good goal for Israel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
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There is only one punishment that will cause this to cease.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 11:54 AM (Ffc+

No. Sending them Lena Dunham would be inhuman.

I can't believe you suggested that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:57 AM (bss/y)

295 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?

Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:58 AM (PCK5/)

296 >> Israel got Egypt to stop hurting them at one point. And Jordan.

>But Iran will never, ever stop and will only continue forever, I guess.

You do realize that Both got BTFO'd in conventional Military Conflicts, right?

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 11:58 AM (uZ2FS)

297 it seems kicking the can down the road is the norm throughout history. War begets war with few exceptions. It's human nature .

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 11:58 AM (VofaG)

298 Hello Mullah
Hello Fatah
Jews have bombed Camp
Intifada
Tehran's very
Entertaining
When it's nighttime and Israeli bombs are raining.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 17, 2025 11:58 AM (0CU3H)

299 Mossad twitter just responded to an Iranian claim to have destroyed a Mossad base by saying "None of us are at a base, we are all in Iran"

Nothing like a little humor in the midst of war

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 11:58 AM (x0qTM)

300 296 >> Israel got Egypt to stop hurting them at one point. And Jordan.

>But Iran will never, ever stop and will only continue forever, I guess.

You do realize that Both got BTFO'd in conventional Military Conflicts, right?
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 11:58 AM (uZ2FS)
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I figured that my second line was obviously facetious.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

301 Karen Read trial:

Jury has three questions.
They related to video clips, the confusing jury form, and what time did they actually claim she was drunk.

Tea leaves indicate she might be found guilty on OUI, but not guilty on the serious charges.

Wee shall see in a couple hours.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 17, 2025 11:59 AM (sRoQh)

302 gammed this action with assets on the ground for many years. I would be surprised that they have no plan for taking out Fordow. But, what do I know, wait and see?
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at June 17, 2025 11:21 AM (+V9k3)

This is why the chatter about whether or not the US gets involved is silly. Israel is clearly taking the operation seriously, so every bit of it is meticulously planned.

That already either includes US participation, which means Trump agreed to it long ago, or it does not. Trump's not just going to decide on the fly to send bombers in with targets that have been picked in the last couple of days, and Israel wouldn't want him to as coordinating would interfere with their existing plans.
Posted by: Methos at

This. Non of this is on the fly. Nothing Iran has done has changed the plan. The plan do far has survived first contact with the enemy. And second and third.

Would Iran still be able to organize a defense to 5000 troops inserted deep into the country?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 11:59 AM (OA79/)

303 298 Hello Mullah
Hello Fatah
Jews have bombed Camp
Intifada
Tehran's very
Entertaining
When it's nighttime and Israeli bombs are raining.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 17, 2025 11:58 AM (0CU3H)

Alan(?) Sherman. Nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 11:59 AM (bss/y)

304 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right? Posted by: tubal

We are thrilled Kamala is president.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 11:59 AM (NXz8h)

305 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:58 AM

No.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 11:59 AM (kgE5c)

306 How about we just borrow Israel a B2. Kind of like lend lease?

I like this idea...

Throw an Ad up on Craigslist 'MOAB Equipped B2 Bomber FS', and let Israel come on over to 'Test Drive' it.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 11:56 AM

Bring it back with the tank full!

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 11:59 AM (ewjUl)

307 Word is out that the metal shops at Whiteman AFB have ordered a lot of white and blue paint. Also, the officers mess has been serving up a lot of kugel and brisket.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 17, 2025 11:59 AM (gm9Sb)

308 Israel won't be done until all the Ayatollahs and mullahs are meeting their 72 Virginians. Remove the theocrats who are are in charge to so there can be change.

Posted by: Rick T at June 17, 2025 11:59 AM (xeXUW)

309 >>I figured that my second line was obviously facetious.

Ah...I see I need more coffee this AM.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 12:00 PM (uZ2FS)

310 295 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?

Posted by: tubal

I certainly do.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 17, 2025 12:00 PM (MX0bI)

311 153
‘ when people are gleefully proclaiming how the last negotiations were really to fuck the country’

I think some are over estimating how much the Iranians were fooled by the negotiations. They had to know war was in the offing if said negotiations failed to resolve anything.
If they were surprised they aren’t very good at their jobs.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 17, 2025 12:00 PM (jbnUc)

312 https://tinyurl.com/Tara-Yazdi

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 12:00 PM (TN0g+)

313 Let's not forget that there are several high ranking Iranian officials who turned out to be working for Israel. I wouldn't bet against some of Iran's nuclear scientists being on Israel's payroll too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 12:00 PM (Q4IgG)

314 Mossad will be here all week.
Try the kosher veal.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 17, 2025 12:00 PM (sRoQh)

315 Apparently it hasn't been the influencer dream project they thought it would be. I'm hearing it's turning young libs off to hear her gripe and complain all the time, when she leads a privileged and charmed life. She's not happy or grateful, and is clearly resentful of Barack, and it's tarnishing her carefully crafted brand. Finally. I think we all saw through the schtick, but I get for the true believers it takes a while.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 11:43 AM (gWBY1)

I read a report from one lib who sat all the way through a couple of podcasts, and the overall takeaway he had was how incredibly boring the entire podcast was. It was a mean girl bitching about everything in her rich, pampered life.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 12:01 PM (uWKK8)

316 What is Israel bombed Iran with Taco Bell from the B-2?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 12:01 PM (skGot)

317 315 I read a report from one lib who sat all the way through a couple of podcasts, and the overall takeaway he had was how incredibly boring the entire podcast was. It was a mean girl bitching about everything in her rich, pampered life.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 12:01 PM (uWKK

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But, remember, Michelle is their secret weapon!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:01 PM (GBKbO)

318 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?

I'm not dead yet!

Posted by: The Thread at June 17, 2025 12:01 PM (u3osT)

319 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?

Posted by: tubal

Yes. And I am unanimous in this.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:01 PM (77rzZ)

320 "Where is Maverick when you need him ?
Posted by: polynikes"
*********
Bret, Bart, or Beau?

Posted by: Cosda at June 17, 2025 12:01 PM (FNphl)

321 Tea leaves indicate she might be found guilty on OUI, but not guilty on the serious charges.

Wee shall see in a couple hours.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 17, 2025 11:59 AM

I haven't followed one minute of that trial. Seems interesting, but meh, busy. So in a nutshell to those who have. Is she guilty or innocent?

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 12:02 PM (ewjUl)

322 Wee shall see in a couple hours.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

If reasonable doubt is the bar the jury is actually adhering too she walks.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 12:02 PM (NXz8h)

323 We don't need to destroy Fordow. We need to let Israel destroy the ayatollahs/mullahs and the new Iranian government can destroy Fordow from the inside.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 17, 2025 11:14 AM

Just so.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 12:02 PM (jc0TO)

324 >>Jury has three questions.
They related to video clips, the confusing jury form, and what time did they actually claim she was drunk.

Sounds like they are working on/towards a Compromise Verdict.

Insane. After watching the Commonwealth put on their case, the Jury should have just walked out.
There was literally NO proof offered that could convict her. None.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 12:02 PM (uZ2FS)

325 >As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?
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Yes

Kate Upton > Sidney Sweeney

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:02 PM (AOsQT)

326 https://tinyurl.com/Tara-Yazdi
Posted by: Crusader

Wow. That's both Mannix-worthy and Fen-worthy. Well done!

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:03 PM (77rzZ)

327 Longbows.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 12:03 PM (P9gC0)

328 295 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2025 11:58 AM (PCK5/)

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*considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)

329 Yes

Kate Upton > Sidney Sweeney
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:02 PM (AOsQT)

Agree 100%

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:03 PM (VofaG)

330 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?

Communal agreement? Are you a communist?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 12:03 PM (/U5Yz)

331 Now, is this any way for a president to talk?

Western Lensman@WesternLensman
Trump will not call “whacked out” Tim Walz:
“I don't really call him. Look, he appointed this guy. I think the governor of Minnesota is so whacked out. I'm not calling him."
"Why would I call him…the guy doesn't have a clue. He’s a mess. Why waste time?"

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Now Timpon will have to cry himself to sleep.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 12:03 PM (L/fGl)

332 The old way worked for over 30 years, keep doing the same thing for another 30.

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (RqMDa)

No. That won't work. With enough missiles Iran can overwhelm Israel's missile defense.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 17, 2025 12:04 PM (L5An7)

333 There was literally NO proof offered that could convict her. None.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 12:02 PM

Hell, the last jury found her not guilty on the murder charge, but the judge refused to poll them. Because we had to do this whole thing again.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 12:04 PM (kgE5c)

334 Without the erector launchers the barrages are much smsller.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 12:05 PM (P9gC0)

335 We don't need to destroy Fordow. We need to let Israel destroy the ayatollahs/mullahs and the new Iranian government can destroy Fordow from the inside.

You may not be familiar with our product, Endless War™...

Posted by: Global Elite at June 17, 2025 12:05 PM (GUvny)

336 Tampon Timmy has pretty much tamped down on his rhetoric.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 12:05 PM (skGot)

337 Yeah, that worked so well in Iraq right?
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Who's Iraq causing problem for these days?

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 12:06 PM (Dnobf)

338 332 The old way worked for over 30 years, keep doing the same thing for another 30.

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (RqMDa)

No. That won't work. With enough missiles Iran can overwhelm Israel's missile defense.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 17, 2025 12:04 PM (L5An7)
So it isn't about the bomb.

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 12:06 PM (RqMDa)

339 Apparently it hasn't been the influencer dream project they thought it would be. I'm hearing it's turning young libs off to hear her gripe and complain all the time, when she leads a privileged and charmed life. She's not happy or grateful, and is clearly resentful of Barack, and it's tarnishing her carefully crafted brand. Finally. I think we all saw through the schtick, but I get for the true believers it takes a while.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 11:43 AM (gWBY1)

Um, every time she has been in the public eye since Shit Midas's first national campaign, all she has done is gripe. These people are slow on the uptake. Even when she says something "positive," the negative is implicit (e.g, the whole finally proud of America comment).

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 12:06 PM (guCHD)

340 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?
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Yes

Kate Upton > Sidney Sweeney
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Yes, and its not even close.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 12:06 PM (TN0g+)

341 "Insane. After watching the Commonwealth put on their case, the Jury should have just walked out.
There was literally NO proof offered that could convict her. None."
_____

This is Massachusetts. The population is used to being told what to do. The State (prosecutor and judge) have told them to CONVICT her.

Posted by: Moot Quart at June 17, 2025 12:07 PM (qUkBO)

342 So in a nutshell to those who have. Is she guilty or innocent?
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 12:02 PM (ewjUl)

She is innocent, and is being framed, incredibly, by the DA's office and Mass State Police.

Long, insane story.

First trial was hung jury.

Defense asked for a lesser included of OUI to be inserted at the end of trial. This might be a genius move to appease the dumb jurors who want to convict her of something.

She was probably drunk at the time, but she didn't run anyone over.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 17, 2025 12:07 PM (sRoQh)

343 What trial?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 12:08 PM (P9gC0)

344 https://tinyurl.com/Tara-Yazdi
Posted by: Crusader

Wow. That's both Mannix-worthy and Fen-worthy. Well done!
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She's now my favorite Persian!

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 12:08 PM (TN0g+)

345 Hell

Heather Graham now > Sydney Sweeney

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:08 PM (VofaG)

346 Israel’s Ambassador to the United States is hinting at something big.

He is claiming that whatever Israel has up its sleeve… it’s going to make the exploding pagers operation seem EASY by comparison!

I told you, exploding latrines are next.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 12:09 PM (/U5Yz)

347 Again, and what is the end game?
Posted by: anonymouse
---------------------------------------

Elimination of the Ayatollahs
Elimination of the mullahs
Elimination of the Red Guard
Elimination of nukes
The people of Iran free from religious tyranny able to form a system of governance bringing them into first world 21st century.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:09 PM (Ffc+8)

348 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?

Everybody dick look big on 60-inch TV, my sister's dick look big on TV.

Posted by: Mooj, Smart Tech Sales Associate at June 17, 2025 12:09 PM (lbkx/)

349 The old way worked for over 30 years, keep doing the same thing for another 30.

Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 11:45 AM (RqMDa)

No. That won't work. With enough missiles Iran can overwhelm Israel's missile defense.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 17, 2025 12:04 PM (L5An7)

***

Yup.
It's about winning.
They dynamic has changed. Israel has changed with it. That's how they stay alive, by recognizing the reality of their position and adapting technologies to meet their requirements.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 12:09 PM (W/lyH)

350 https://tinyurl.com/Tara-Yazdi
Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025
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At risk of expulsion, she'd be prettier with one third the boobs.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 12:09 PM (n4GiU)

351 At risk of expulsion, she'd be prettier with one third the boobs.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 12:09 PM (n4GiU)

I will be the judge of that.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 17, 2025 12:10 PM (sRoQh)

352 At risk of expulsion, she'd be prettier with one third the boobs.
____

She has six boobs currently?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 12:10 PM (Dv3i1)

353 Sounds like Sydney will need comforting from all this rejection.

Saw a preview for a movie with her. She cries ugly. As any illicit union I hypothetically have with a starlet will involve lots of disappointment for her, the ugly crying thing is a virtue.

Yes, it's a weird metric. But a man has to have goals, even if they are weird.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 12:10 PM (guCHD)

354 Let me enter a new one to the mix: Diora Baird.

https://tinyurl.com/2brbb4hz

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:11 PM (bss/y)

355 No. That won't work. With enough missiles Iran can overwhelm Israel's missile defense.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

So it isn't about the bomb.
Posted by: anonymouse

Yes. It is. Throw three hundred conventional missiles and one nuke.
Even an airburst is bad juju.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 12:11 PM (PfGa7)

356 Hell

Heather Graham now > Sydney Sweeney
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Heather Graham was smoking hot in "Diggstown". That's a great flick with James Woods in it if any of you all missed it.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 12:11 PM (TN0g+)

357 At risk of expulsion, she'd be prettier with one third the boobs.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 12:09 PM (n4GiU)

IIRC, she has had a breast reduction.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:12 PM (bss/y)

358 As this thread winds down to its’ close, we can all agree on something, right?

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BOOBS!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 12:12 PM (L/fGl)

359 President Trump Shares Message From U.S. Ambassador Mike Huckabee Stating He Will “Hear From Heaven”

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 12:12 PM (/U5Yz)

360 Involved or not involved?

>>@trump_repost
·
>>14m
We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn't compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured "stuff." Nobody does it better than the good ol' USA.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 12:12 PM (PQWix)

361 i eat shit pebbles because yum

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 17, 2025 12:12 PM (/KSQe)

362 Paige Spiranic > Kate Upton > Sidney Sweeney

Afterall, it is Geezer Golf Tuesday even if I can't play today.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 12:13 PM (W/lyH)

363 She has six boobs currently?
Posted by: Chuck Martel

Should have volume somewhere in comment.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 12:13 PM (n4GiU)

364 Kate Upton > Sidney Sweeney
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Yes, and its not even close.
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I would happily 'settle' for Sidney.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 12:13 PM (Dnobf)

365 So it isn't about the bomb.
Posted by: anonymouse at June 17, 2025 12:06 PM (RqMDa)
=======================

Netanyahu specifies that Israel insists on “three central results: the destruction of the nuclear program, the destruction of the production capacity of ballistic missiles, and the destruction of the axis of terror.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 12:14 PM (kv+Nx)

366 https://tinyurl.com/Tara-Yazdi
Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025

A more revealing photo will need to be provided to make an educated determination.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 12:14 PM (/U5Yz)

367 Let me enter a new one to the mix: Diora Baird.

https://tinyurl.com/2brbb4hz
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:11 PM (bss/y)

Now there’s the winner. Wow!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 17, 2025 12:14 PM (OW907)

368 Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 17, 2025 12:12 PM

You literally know nothing, Joe.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 12:14 PM (jc0TO)

369 >>@trump_repost
·
>>14m
We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn't compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured "stuff." Nobody does it better than the good ol' USA.
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Amercan made, conceived, and manufactured "stuff" is why I sleep so well at night on MyPillow.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 12:14 PM (TN0g+)

370 361 Rumor has it......that the Afghan war would be super easy !
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 17, 2025 12:12 PM (/KSQe)

I don’t think Israel wants to stay there for 2 decades and accomplish nothing.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 12:14 PM (Mxf84)

371 i troll public toilets for shit pebbles people leave on the floor

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 17, 2025 12:14 PM (2hfA1)

372 A more revealing photo will need to be provided to make an educated determination.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 12:14 PM (/U5Yz)

My research dept was never able to find any nudes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:14 PM (bss/y)

373 Let me enter a new one to the mix: Diora Baird.

https://tinyurl.com/2brbb4hz
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:11 PM (bss/y)

I'd love to explore her

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at June 17, 2025 12:14 PM (eb5mD)

374 Jeffersonian Democracy?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 12:15 PM (P9gC0)

375 Keep your eye on the sleeping giant that is Greenland.
Posted by: Gerardus Mercator

Sir, you are projecting again.

Posted by: Kernel Korn at June 17, 2025 12:15 PM (G5+As)

376 My research dept was never able to find any nudes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

But Tara's got lots of bikini pics out there.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:15 PM (77rzZ)

377 Let me enter a new one to the mix: Diora Baird.

https://tinyurl.com/2brbb4hz
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Doesn't look Persian.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 12:16 PM (n4GiU)

378 Karen Read (re)trial in a nutshell:

1. The State says she killed her boyfriend by backing into him with her SUV. But the State's medical examiner testified there was no physical evidence the boyfriend was killed by a vehicle.

2. Local cop from another town took possession of Read's SUV after the accident; said there was minor damage to rear tail light. After SUV was transferred to State police, significantly more damage was done to the tail light. Local cop shown photo of tail light with that significant damage, says that's not the way it was when he took possession of vehicle.

Posted by: Moot Quart at June 17, 2025 12:16 PM (qUkBO)

379 and the destruction of the axis of terror.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Axis?
Hamas
Isis
Iran's leadership and enforcers

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:16 PM (Ffc+8)

380 At risk of expulsion, she'd be prettier with one third the boobs.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 12:09 PM (n4GiU)

IIRC, she has had a breast reduction.
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I'm disappointed when people attempt to surgically modify their body in such a manner, almost as if they've decided God made a mistake...

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 12:16 PM (TN0g+)

381 Let me enter a new one to the mix: Diora Baird.

https://tinyurl.com/2brbb4hz
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:11 PM (bss/y)

I'd like to see Baird bared.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 12:16 PM (W/lyH)

382 >> Let me enter a new one to the mix: Diora Baird.

https://tinyurl.com/2brbb4hz

That face.

That face is No Bueno.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 12:17 PM (uZ2FS)

383 Diors Baird regrettably hits for the other side according to her

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 12:17 PM (akw+7)

384 Marina Medvin @MarinaMedvin
Iran just put out an order prohibiting their government employees from using cell phones.

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Not even just Candy Crush?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 12:19 PM (L/fGl)

385 I'd like to see Baird bared.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 12:16 PM (W/lyH)

She has an onlyfans. And 'full Baird' as it were.

She's been in a few things (episode of Psych) and also played Johnny's ex in Cobra Kai.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:19 PM (bss/y)

386 I told you, exploding latrines are next.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 12:09 PM (/U5Yz)
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Sweet Allah!!!! What did you eat?!?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 17, 2025 12:19 PM (17s+e)

387 Let me enter a new one to the mix: Diora Baird.

https://tinyurl.com/2brbb4hz

That face.

That face is No Bueno.
Posted by: garrett

But face down, butt up in the Child Support position...

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 12:19 PM (PfGa7)

388 Posted by: Moot Quart at June 17, 2025 12:16 PM (qUkBO)

I really hope that she's found not guilty of killing the guy because I am so very, very tired of hearing my wife bitch about this prosecution.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:19 PM (ExV1e)

389 Exploding Korans

Posted by: Moot Quart at June 17, 2025 12:19 PM (qUkBO)

390 366 https://tinyurl.com/Tara-Yazdi
Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025
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Nails are too long
Tattoos
Phone in hand

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:20 PM (Ffc+8)

391 Trump has done nothing so far to counter the threat of ladies farding in cars.

Posted by: El Rushbo at June 17, 2025 12:20 PM (G5+As)

392 Exploding Korans
Posted by: Moot Quart

I first read that as "Exploding Karens."

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:20 PM (77rzZ)

393 I really hope that she's found not guilty of killing the guy because I am so very, very tired of hearing my wife bitch about this prosecution.
---------
I hear you--I was married when Princess Diana died. That was a week of my life where I wished I didn't own a television set.

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (TN0g+)

394 Why would they try to frame Karen Read? What did she do to them ?

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (VofaG)

395 I first read that as "Exploding Karens."
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:20 PM (77rzZ)

I read "Exploding Koreans."

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (ExV1e)

396 Obama's been pretty quiet. Must sting to find out that everything he did was a big failure.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (NXz8h)

397 I'm disappointed when people attempt to surgically modify their body in such a manner, almost as if they've decided God made a mistake...
____

I don't get the surgery for, uhm, tidying up the lady bits. If you are her guy, why do you care, and who else is going to see it anyway. Also, all surgeries come with risks.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (Dv3i1)

398 I told you, exploding latrines are next.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

*power goes out suddenly*

"It's awfully dark in here"

*lights match*

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (w9Wax)

399 394 Why would they try to frame Karen Read? What did she do to them ?
___

"They" killed a fellow cop. "They" needed someone to frame.

Posted by: Moot Quart at June 17, 2025 12:22 PM (qUkBO)

400 Tattoos
Posted by: Braenyard

Aw man, I didn't notice the tattoos the first time. Bummer.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:22 PM (77rzZ)

401 Gee, maybe we could just get back into the rug and pistachio business and let the oil be the gravy. Those Republican Guard assholes would probably go along with that.

Mo, fleeing with family in the Toyota from Tehran

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 17, 2025 12:22 PM (gm9Sb)

402 Why would they try to frame Karen Read? What did she do to them ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (VofaG)

The theory is that she is a convenient scapegoat not on the local police force.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:22 PM (ExV1e)

403 I first read that as "Exploding Karens."
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I saw Exploding Karens open for Greta in a Turban...

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 12:22 PM (TN0g+)

404 I think Kate has a much cuter face

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:23 PM (AOsQT)

405 Of course it is entirely possible that the Israeli decapitation of Iranian leadership will embolden the Iranian people to continue that work and overthrow the Mullahs. What comes after that is anybody's guess, and the odds of exchanging one group of madmen for another are not long. But Iran was (mostly) free before, and maybe they can be free again! CBD

At the point that a new regime arises in Persia and receives international recogition, that is when the US could come in and destroy the underground faciility.
At the request of the new government, as a show of good faith and to put the past behind them. (And probably for a trade deal and some rebuilding cash and a third party to run an actual domestic nuclear energy program)

That would solve the issue permanently. So Israel should continue to do things with their air supremacy that undermine the current regimes ability to hold power.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 17, 2025 12:23 PM (FCbAQ)

406 Has General Salami been laid to rest yet?

Posted by: Coldest Cut Of All at June 17, 2025 12:23 PM (G5+As)

407 I think Kate has a much cuter face
Posted by: Don Black

Agreed. Prettier all around.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:23 PM (77rzZ)

408 Late to the thread, but what was up with Tulsi Gabbard ? How could she be so wrong ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:23 PM (VE6XX)

409 Why would they try to frame Karen Read? What did she do to them ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (VofaG)

The theory is that she is a convenient scapegoat not on the local police force.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:22 PM (ExV1e)

so they think someone on the police force actually killed him?

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:23 PM (VofaG)

410 And, true, it wasn't the Achaemenids, but the Parthian and Sassanian Empires, who were the Achaemenids' successors.
Posted by: Bulg
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Cyrus has entered the chat.

As an aside, see Ezra 1.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2025 12:24 PM (XeU6L)

411 394 Why would they try to frame Karen Read? What did she do to them ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (VofaG)

There is a good quote from... Castle IIRC.

It is in one of the writer's poker games where one of the writers says:

'As much time as we spend on these things, there are only three reasons to commit a murder: Love, Money, or to cover up a crime.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:24 PM (bss/y)

412 394 Why would they try to frame Karen Read? What did she do to them ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (VofaG)

Because they needed someone to frame to take the fall for the actual perpetrator who was probably one of the cops at the house that night.

Posted by: Manufactured evidence, perjury, destruction of evidence - kinda sus! at June 17, 2025 12:24 PM (TbWk/)

413 Hide the Salami.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 12:24 PM (P9gC0)

414 Cop found dead on lawn of another cop. Local cops never bother going into the house to investigate. Basement of house quickly "refurbished" and sold.

Posted by: Moot Quart at June 17, 2025 12:24 PM (qUkBO)

415 @trump_repost
·
3m
We know exactly where the so-called "Supreme Leader" is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there - We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. But we don't want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 12:26 PM (PQWix)

416 >I don't get the surgery for, uhm, tidying up the lady bits.
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imagine you have earlobes that hang down to your shirt collar

would you consider reducing them?

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:26 PM (AOsQT)

417 Late to the thread, but what was up with Tulsi Gabbard ? How could she be so wrong ?
Posted by: It's me donna

And shouldn't Cabinet secretaries run their statements past the President before they open their yaps, to make sure that their positions align with his?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:26 PM (77rzZ)

418 Slowpoke Rodriguez tried to draw down on a cop. It didn't go well.

http://tiny.cc/gv6n001

Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 12:26 PM (lIio7)

419 so they think someone on the police force actually killed him?
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:23 PM (VofaG)

As I understand it, much as I'd prefer to be ignorant, the theory is that something happened and he ended up dead. Not, necessarily, that they killed him beyond, perhaps, negligence.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:26 PM (ExV1e)

420 Aw man, I didn't notice the tattoos the first time. Bummer.
Posted by: Bulg
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And a phone as an accessory of a glamour pic. Really?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:26 PM (Ffc+8)

421 Thanks to @POTUS’s pro-growth, America First policies, real wages for hourly workers are up nearly 2% in the first five months of @realDonaldTrump’s second term — the strongest growth in 60 years. No president has done that before — except President Trump in his first term. Hardworking Americans and Main Street businesses have never had a stronger ally in the @WhiteHouse .

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 12:27 PM (RHGPo)

422 imagine you have earlobes that hang down to your shirt collar
would you consider reducing them?
Posted by: Don Black

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at June 17, 2025 12:27 PM (w9Wax)

423 Why would they try to frame Karen Read? What did she do to them ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (VofaG)

Dead guy was a Boston cop found dead on a Boston cop's (or was Brian Albert a Canton cop?) lawn. No one bothered to investigate the cop's house, or interview the people at the party separately.

The Albert's and McCabes are big families in the town of Canton, and he was probably murdered in the house. The Blue Wall protecting itself.

And there is so much more insanity in this case.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 17, 2025 12:27 PM (sRoQh)

424 so they think someone on the police force actually killed him?
Posted by: polynikes

One of the cops was trying to get into Karen Read's pants. This led to bad blood by one of the cops towards the deceased who was her boyfriend. The implication by the defense is the cops beat him up during a heated argument and in the process killed him. At that point it was a five alarm fire drill to pin this on Karen Read.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 12:27 PM (NXz8h)

425 That's a pretty big conspiracy to pull that off. But why would they do a second trial? Wouldn't that help expose the conspiracy. You got away with it. Just let sleeping dogs lay .

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:28 PM (VofaG)

426 I personally get a laugh out of the claim that the Israelis are fighting "a war of aggression".
Tell me just how many hundreds of sq miles of land has Israel taken in Iran ?

The Russians in Ukraine supposedly took 100 sq miles last month.
(Ukraine is 244,000 sq miles, so I figure Russia will take it all in 100 years or so)

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 12:28 PM (RHGPo)

427 Late to the thread, but what was up with Tulsi Gabbard ? How could she be so wrong ?

She said they don't currently have a bomb. Not that they aren't trying to make one.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 17, 2025 12:28 PM (2ocoG)

428 And shouldn't Cabinet secretaries run their statements past the President before they open their yaps, to make sure that their positions align with his?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:26 PM (77rzZ)

Pretty sure the Gabbard quote being thrown around was in response to Congressional questioning.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:28 PM (ExV1e)

429 424 so they think someone on the police force actually killed him?
Posted by: polynikes

One of the cops was trying to get into Karen Read's pants. This led to bad blood by one of the cops towards the deceased who was her boyfriend. The implication by the defense is the cops beat him up during a heated argument and in the process killed him. At that point it was a five alarm fire drill to pin this on Karen Read.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 12:27 PM (NXz8h)

======

Watch internet pron and hire a prostitute.

Cheaper.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:28 PM (GBKbO)

430
I don't get the surgery for, uhm, tidying up the lady bits. If you are her guy, why do you care, and who else is going to see it anyway. Also, all surgeries come with risks.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (Dv3i1)

I guess it depends. If the minora look like you're giving birth to a lop-eared rabbit, you might be a little self-conscious about it. Could be uncomfortable too.

Posted by: Case by case basis at June 17, 2025 12:28 PM (TbWk/)

431 I wonder if this will be a short war or a long one.
If the Iranians fight back and don't collapse, this could get big and long.

No penis joke intended.
This time...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:29 PM (xcxpd)

432 The Russians in Ukraine supposedly took 100 sq miles last month.
(Ukraine is 244,000 sq miles, so I figure Russia will take it all in 100 years or so)

I think there's an excellent chance that at some point the dick pianist will flee to some island he bought and throw Putin the keys.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 17, 2025 12:29 PM (2ocoG)

433 415 @trump_repost
·
3m
We know exactly where the so-called "Supreme Leader" is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there - We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. But we don't want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 12:26 PM (PQWix)
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Also saying wants unconditional surrender.

Making his position pretty clear.

Posted by: WisRich at June 17, 2025 12:29 PM (G0vdT)

434 433 Also saying wants unconditional surrender.

Making his position pretty clear.
Posted by: WisRich at June 17, 2025 12:29 PM (G0vdT)

=====

His unconditional surrender post was obviously about Melania's lingerie choice for the evening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)

435 One of the cops was trying to get into Karen Read's pants. This led to bad blood by one of the cops towards the deceased who was her boyfriend. The implication by the defense is the cops beat him up during a heated argument and in the process killed him. At that point it was a five alarm fire drill to pin this on Karen Read.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 12:27 PM (NXz8h)

Don't chase a gal who is seeing someone. Don't 'fight' over her. Don't be part of a crowd.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:30 PM (bss/y)

436
Also saying wants unconditional surrender.

Making his position pretty clear.
Posted by: WisRich at June 17, 2025 12:29 PM (G0vdT)

Even if they agreed I wouldn't trust them

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 12:30 PM (VE6XX)

437 https://tinyurl.com/Tara-Yazdi

Moo.

https://retrotoysusa.com/
cow-in-a-can-
barnyard-noise.html

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 12:30 PM (Qk3HE)

438 But why would they do a second trial?

Lotta people were bitching about how biased the first trial was so they needed a second, not quite as biased, trial to throw off the scent.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:30 PM (ExV1e)

439 Watched The French Dispatch this weekend. I fell asleep a couple of times. I like the approach but the serial stories varied wildly. I have a date this weekend with the wife to watch The Grand Budapest Hotel. Hopefully, I don't fall asleep.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 12:30 PM (FmapG)

440 His unconditional surrender post was obviously about Melania's lingerie choice for the evening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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Heh

Posted by: WisRich at June 17, 2025 12:30 PM (G0vdT)

441 I don't get the surgery for, uhm, tidying up the lady bits. If you are her guy, why do you care, and who else is going to see it anyway. Also, all surgeries come with risks.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 12:21 PM (Dv3i1)

I could see the back-pain issue. If I were a young woman with extremely large breasts, I would make my pile with them when I was young, and then probably have them reduced around 45 or so.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:31 PM (77rzZ)

442 Zelenski is very upset that the dust up in Iran is taking attention away from him. What does State think?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:31 PM (Ffc+8)

443 Also saying wants unconditional surrender.

Finally, a use case for sending French advisors!

Posted by: Ian S. at June 17, 2025 12:31 PM (2ocoG)

444 One of the cops was trying to get into Karen Read's pants.

Yup. Higgins. He is an ATF agent that destroyed his phone and dumped it at a military base the day before he received a preservation order.

My theories are:

1. Drunken fight gone bad over pussy.
2. John O'Keefe was snitching on bad cops and got whacked.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 17, 2025 12:31 PM (sRoQh)

445 Deep state has deep police doing their own things.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 17, 2025 12:32 PM (xN7V5)

446 "It’s funny how all the pro-Ukraine war people now are mad that the US is selling Israel arms to blow up Iran.

But to be fair, plenty of the reverse as well. Peeps who wanted nothing to do with Ukraine are now on the Bomb Iran to the Stone Age bandwagon. "
==
I always think it is funny when people try to show them as a direct comparison when they are not. People who try to do that are not worth replying to because they are being disingenuous and then some. They are different conflicts with different motivations and different strategic considerations for us.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 17, 2025 12:32 PM (GZYu7)

447 Watch internet pron and hire a prostitute.

Cop wouldn't even need to hire a prostitute. Pick up some woman and tell her that you'll book her for solicitation if she doesn't put out. It's CorruptionTown.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:32 PM (ExV1e)

448 Does anyone have CBD's tele # in France?
We need a new thread.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:32 PM (Ffc+8)

449 I don't expect any of that "nation building" that went before this.
This will end much like Syria .. as the stumble in the darkness for their future.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 12:32 PM (RHGPo)

450 418 Slowpoke Rodriguez tried to draw down on a cop. It didn't go well.

http://tiny.cc/gv6n001
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2025 12:26 PM (lIio7)

That wasn't cartoonishly slow, just trying to draw from appendix while seated isn't good/easy anyway.

He did look drunk/stoned though. That didn't help.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:32 PM (xcxpd)

451 Aw man, I didn't notice the tattoos the first time. Bummer.
Posted by: Bulg

Notice to the gals out there. STOP tatting up your body! Yea, there might be a few guys who think it's hot. It's not. It's actually gross.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 12:33 PM (ewjUl)

452 giving birth to a lop-eared rabbit

Wizard's sleeve.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 12:33 PM (Qk3HE)

453 >I could see the back-pain issue. If I were a young woman with extremely large breasts, I would.....
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not those bits

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:33 PM (AOsQT)

454 Lotta people were bitching about how biased the first trial was so they needed a second, not quite as biased, trial to throw off the scent.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:30 PM (ExV1e)

Sorry but that's too much of a rabbit hole.

Anyway she will be found not guilty since no real new bombshells revealed. But maybe the prosecution got a more favorable jury.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:33 PM (VofaG)

455 Just imagine if Kamala Harris was in the White House with those pro-HAMas/Pro-Iran minions.
They would shovel inflation reduction money via the EPA to every crazy in the Middle East.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 12:33 PM (RHGPo)

456 Cop wouldn't even need to hire a prostitute. Pick up some woman and tell her that you'll book her for solicitation if she doesn't put out. It's CorruptionTown.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:32 PM

I see you know the police in MA. Especially the staties.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 12:33 PM (kgE5c)

457 I could see the back-pain issue. If I were a young woman with extremely large breasts, I would make my pile with them when I was young, and then probably have them reduced around 45 or so.
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"If I had boobs like that, I'd never leave the house."

Posted by: Butthead at June 17, 2025 12:33 PM (TN0g+)

458 He's right, you know. (Konstantin Kisin)
Joking aside, the reason the online isolationists are having such a meltdown is actually not even that they are "anti-war". Current events are shattering the illusion that their hot takes are representative or influential. This is why they're so upset.

The reason they have been able to maintain this illusion in their minds despite the fact that President Trump has always been pro-Israel and a hawk on Iran is that the illusion was flattering to them.

Thousands and thousands of likes on their posts about how Churchill was the chief villain of WWII and Israel is the root of all evil went to their head. They thought they had power. The thought they had influence. And now that they've realised they don't they're calling for Trump to be impeached

https://is.gd/E7WxaG

Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:34 PM (s8j++)

459 Watched The French Dispatch this weekend. I fell asleep a couple of times. I like the approach but the serial stories varied wildly. I have a date this weekend with the wife to watch The Grand Budapest Hotel. Hopefully, I don't fall asleep.
Posted by: pudinhead

The Grand Budapest is my favorite Wes Anderson movie by far. In my mind it's a masterpiece. You might want to check out the friends of Eddie Coyle. It's a solid 1973 noir starring Robert Mitchum.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 12:34 PM (NXz8h)

460 Cop wouldn't even need to hire a prostitute. Pick up some woman and tell her that you'll book her for solicitation if she doesn't put out. It's CorruptionTown.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:32 PM (ExV1e)

Never get that. If the gal is not into it, what the fuck is the point?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:34 PM (bss/y)

461 Kathleen Kennedy Shares Her New Vision for Star Wars

-
Put a chick in it and make her lame and gay?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 12:34 PM (L/fGl)

462 If I were a young woman with extremely large breasts...

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 12:31 PM (77rzZ)

Wait...you aren't?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 17, 2025 12:35 PM (L5An7)

463 Unconditional surrender has the smell of “nation building” which we are not doing yet again. If history has shown anything, beside the obvious failure, these things are usually full of all kinds of opportunities for fraud by all sort of bad actors much like USAID.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 12:35 PM (RHGPo)

464 >Notice to the gals out there. STOP tatting up your body!
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and leave the downstairs carpet alone, FFS

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:35 PM (AOsQT)

465 Thousands and thousands of likes on their posts about how Churchill was the chief villain of WWII and Israel is the root of all evil went to their head. They thought they had power. The thought they had influence. And now that they've realised they don't they're calling for Trump to be impeached

https://is.gd/E7WxaG
Posted by: Archimedes at June 17, 2025 12:34 PM (s8j++)

Again I ask: how many of these internally inconsistent people are there outside of twitter?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:36 PM (bss/y)

466 imagine you have earlobes that hang down to your shirt collar
would you consider reducing them?
Posted by: Don Black

This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at June 17, 2025 12:27 PM

Fuck you guys.

Posted by: B Obama JEF (ret) at June 17, 2025 12:36 PM (ewjUl)

467 461 Kathleen Kennedy Shares Her New Vision for Star Wars

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Put a chick in it and make her lame and gay?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 12:34 PM (L/fGl)

Brilliant.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:36 PM (bss/y)

468 451 Aw man, I didn't notice the tattoos the first time. Bummer.
Posted by: Bulg

Notice to the gals out there. STOP tatting up your body! Yea, there might be a few guys who think it's hot. It's not. It's actually gross.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 12:33 PM (ewjUl)

The excessive tatting, the turning your face into the fishing tackle section of a hardware store - it just doesn't look good. At all. On anyone. At that level it's pure vandalism. And it genuinely saddens me to see so many young women - and men - feeling compelled to deface and mutilate themselves.

Posted by: This trend I don't like it at June 17, 2025 12:36 PM (TbWk/)

469 It is in one of the writer's poker games where one of the writers says:

'As much time as we spend on these things, there are only three reasons to commit a murder: Love, Money, or to cover up a crime.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:24 PM (bss/y)

The writers clearly never spent time in the barrio.
People kill for pride, anger, because they're having a bad day, to defend territory, to protect someone or something that's their's...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:36 PM (xcxpd)

470 Unconditional surrender has the smell of “nation building” which we are not doing yet again. If history has shown anything, beside the obvious failure, these things are usually full of all kinds of opportunities for fraud by all sort of bad actors much like USAID.
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You're stretching. Unconditional surrender is more or less regime change, and neither term has to mean boots on the ground. It just means "we're going to keep breaking your stuff until there's somebody else to talk to".

Posted by: Butthead at June 17, 2025 12:36 PM (TN0g+)

471
They deserve the same punishment as Saddam Hussein.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:37 PM (Ffc+8)

472 Notice to the gals out there. STOP tatting up your body!

Generational thing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:37 PM (ExV1e)

473 Keep in mind that all of what is happening is Allah's will

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 12:37 PM (RHGPo)

474 469 The writers clearly never spent time in the barrio.
People kill for pride, anger, because they're having a bad day, to defend territory, to protect someone or something that's their's...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:36 PM (xcxpd)

======

I kill only when I see red.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)

475 The writers clearly never spent time in the barrio.
People kill for pride, anger, because they're having a bad day, to defend territory, to protect someone or something that's their's...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 17, 2025 12:36 PM (xcxpd)

Eh, valid. Life is cheap when it comes down to it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:37 PM (bss/y)

476 If I were a young woman with extremely large breasts...
Posted by: Bulg

Phew, that was close!

Posted by: The Subjunctive Mood at June 17, 2025 12:37 PM (w9Wax)

477 ace is up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (bss/y)

478 I kill only when I see red.
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Me too.

Posted by: Zombie Wyatt Earp at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (TN0g+)

479 and leave the downstairs carpet alone, FFS
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:35 PM (AOsQT)

agree but I do like lawn care.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (VofaG)

480 Cop wouldn't even need to hire a prostitute. Pick up some woman and tell her that you'll book her for solicitation if she doesn't put out. It's CorruptionTown.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:32 PM (ExV1e)

Never get that. If the gal is not into it, what the fuck is the point?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 12:34 PM (bss/y)

Because they get off on dominating, coercing and abusing others. It's why they became cops in the first place.

Posted by: For those kind of cops that's exactly the point at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (TbWk/)

481 I kill only when I see red.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)

Or Prometheus?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (sRoQh)

482 Uh... Girl mathing tells me two GBU-28 equals GBU-56....Close enough for gubmint work yes?

Oh what the hell drop three... that's 3 x 28..., that'll cover it..., yeah, that'll do

Posted by: Nope! at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (emISv)

483 Nood. Something about Iran.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 12:38 PM (ExV1e)

484 I kill only when I see red.
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Me too.
Posted by: Zombie Wyatt Earp
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Me too.

Posted by: Warrant at June 17, 2025 12:39 PM (TN0g+)

485 Germany's Chancellor " Israel is doing the World's dirty work".

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 12:39 PM (DLqye)

486 It’s funny how all the pro-Ukraine war people now are mad that the US is selling Israel arms to blow up Iran.

Are there any such? That doesn't seem to compute.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 12:39 PM (XSDUb)

487 The biggest joke in Tehran is the where-abouts of Ayatollah Khamenei. It seems nobody, except the Israelis, know where Ayatollah Khamenei is avoiding martyrdom.

KACO (Khamenei Always Chickens Out)

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (RHGPo)

488 437
‘ https://tinyurl.com/Tara-Yazdi

Moo.’

Happy Pride Month!

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (jbnUc)

489 We know exactly where the so-called "Supreme Leader" is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there - We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. But we don't want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

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Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu Won’t Rule Out Killing Iran’s Supreme Leader

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (L/fGl)

490 I kill only when I see red.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)
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I'll kill a man in a fair fight. Or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight. Or if he bothers me. Or if there's a woman involved, or if I'm gettin' paid - mostly only when I'm gettin' paid.

Posted by: Jayne Cobb at June 17, 2025 12:40 PM (6YdsJ)

491 This reminds me ... where is John Kerry now that Iran is smoking ?

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (RHGPo)

492 356 Hell

Heather Graham now > Sydney Sweeney
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Heather Graham was smoking hot in "Diggstown". That's a great flick with James Woods in it if any of you all missed it.
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If you like the movie, don't read the book from the 70's - it's dominated by a miscegenation subplot wisely left out of the film

Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at June 17, 2025 12:41 PM (F/35S)

493 If I work for the government then I'm a consultant. If I work for anybody else, a prostitute.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 17, 2025 12:42 PM (xN7V5)

494 What if IAF crews have been training on B-2s and the US "gives" one or a few of them to Israel, with the US markings removed and IAF markings replacing them until further notice?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (n+rGF)

495 Didn’t Ayatollah Kocakhamenei say Iran had “no interest” in building a nuclear weapon. A religious leader lied ?

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 12:43 PM (RHGPo)

496 I would rather Iran be communist than Islamist.

Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (jc0TO)

497 Israel Bombs Iran in “Mostly Peaceful” Preemptive Strike.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 12:45 PM (RHGPo)

498 Not many armies encourage baby fucking like October 7.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 17, 2025 12:47 PM (xN7V5)

499 Iran was (mostly) free before, and maybe they can be free again!

Maybe. That's gonna be up to them. No more nation building. They might also wind up as a failed state breeding ground for future jihadis. Who knows.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at June 17, 2025 12:54 PM (/4+8Z)

500 most bunker buster missions assume a single strike since normally sites tend to be heavily defended with Antiaircraft missiles ...
when you can hit a site for days on end you don't need the big bombs ...
and a bunker can be redered useless without ever penetrating the 300 feet of rock ... very little can survive the cuncussive forces applied when enough bombs exploded above a bunker without breaching the shell ...

plus I'm sure that someone has developed a rocket powered penatrator that can breach alot of rock ...

day 1 blast the site with several GBU-28's

day 2 rocket penetrators ... swiss cheese the site

day 3 several more GBU-28's

When you control the skies its a engineering problem as much as anything ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at June 17, 2025 01:12 PM (DBAaD)

501 everyone saw Armegedden right ... drilling a hole in 300 feet of rock is a 1 day job ...

1) drop in security teams

2) drop in 2 drill teams with gear

3) drill 2 holes

4) drop in gas cannisters

5) pop goes the weasle ...

6) extract teams

Posted by: The Dark Lord at June 17, 2025 01:37 PM (DBAaD)

502 remote controlled drilling rig ...

airdropped in ...

dig a 300 foot hole (doesn't need to be a big hole)

pipe in explosive gas

barbeque ...

then pipe in posion gas ...

clever folks can figure this out ... lots of clever folks on one side of this ifght ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at June 17, 2025 01:51 PM (DBAaD)

503 122 GBU-27s...GBU-58s. Whatever it takes.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 11:26 AM (W/lyH)

Mr Mom has entered the discussion...

Posted by: Nope! at June 17, 2025 01:58 PM (emISv)

504 CNN has just been notified that a Federal Judge from Hawaii has ordered Trump to attack Israel and to give Iran Nukes for his unconstitutional acts against persons of color for giving aid the IDF Nazis.........................

Posted by: CNN Breaking News at June 17, 2025 02:37 PM (aKoaI)

505 What if IAF crews have been training on B-2s and the US "gives" one or a few of them to Israel, with the US markings removed and IAF markings replacing them until further notice?

We did such a thing in WWII called the "Lend/Lease program".

Posted by: Mike Hunt at June 17, 2025 02:40 PM (aKoaI)

Mid-Morning Art Thread

School teacher
Jan Steen

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

Comments

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:30 AM (PfGa7)

2 Primum, non nocere.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 09:30 AM (w9Wax)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:30 AM (Zz0t1)

4 Hope he's got all their pronouns straight.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:30 AM (77rzZ)

5 Little Johnny just got busted. Again.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (PfGa7)

6 I bet they're better at math than most high school graduates of today.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

7 The real hero

Posted by: one hour sober at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (Y1sOo)

8 What's with the spoon?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (Q4IgG)

9 The wooden spoon is quite menacing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

10 Not good with kids' faces, huh, Jan?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (GBKbO)

11 I've got it bad, bad, bad....
I'm hot for teacher!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (JCZqz)

12 What's with the spoon?
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Whacking knuckles.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:32 AM (PfGa7)

13 Spare the spoon and spoil the child.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 09:32 AM (w9Wax)

14 Kids look terrified.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 09:32 AM (z1/Q8)

15 I'm betting the boy wiping his eye just took an ass whippin' from that spoon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:32 AM (Zz0t1)

16 Kid probably has a better reading level that most Baltimore HS graduates.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 09:32 AM (72zuV)

17

SMACK!

NO!

I've told you a hundred times, you don't wipe your boogers in the book, you eat them!

Posted by: The Teacher at June 17, 2025 09:32 AM (gYVB4)

18 What's with the spoon?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (Q4IgG)

Pour encourager les autres!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 09:32 AM (L5An7)

19
Pour encourager les autres!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 09:32 AM (L5An7)

Encouraging less autism?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:33 AM (Zz0t1)

20 School teacher
Jan Steen

Frank's older brother?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 09:33 AM (Dg2sF)

21 I saw Whacking Knuckles open for Corporal Punishment at Lewisville High in '81.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:33 AM (PfGa7)

22 I wonder how many of those kids are on ADHD meds.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 09:33 AM (mT+6a)

23 Jan had a brother, Frank Nathaniel.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 09:34 AM (w9Wax)

24 Jan Steen

Frank's older brother?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 09:33 AM (Dg2sF)

I suddenly had a Jan & Dean song in my head.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:34 AM (Zz0t1)

25

Your fathers say to sell you all for medical experiments!

Posted by: The Teacher at June 17, 2025 09:34 AM (gYVB4)

26
"Son. You either figure this out or it's off to the glue factory with you."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:35 AM (Zz0t1)

27 I've told you a hundred times, you don't wipe your boogers in the book, you eat them!
Posted by: The Teacher

Better than eating thumb skin.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:35 AM (77rzZ)

28 Don't let the leper in the window inside!

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 09:35 AM (w9Wax)

29 School days, school days
Dear old golden rule days!
Readin' an' 'Ritin' an' 'Rithmatic
Taught to the tune of a hick'ry stick!

Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 17, 2025 09:36 AM (BHrzb)

30 Kid with the hat is on page 49 of his manifesto.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:36 AM (Q4IgG)

31 The one in the foreground is writing xer manifesto.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:36 AM (77rzZ)

32
All Right, Children! What's Next? - a llimerick

There once was a teacher from Bath
Who tried to show kids the right path
Arithmetic came first
But the absolute worst
Was dealing with the aftermath!

Posted by: muldoon at June 17, 2025 09:36 AM (poXs5)

33 Someone's about to get whacked on their wrist.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 09:36 AM (NpAcC)

34 30 Kid with the hat is on page 49 of his manifesto.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:36 AM (Q4IgG)

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"I am left handed thusly, and the forcing of me writing with my righteth is an injustice. All must burn."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:37 AM (GBKbO)

35 Wonderful painter!. Really enjoy his works

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 09:37 AM (2GCMq)

36 Is this a still from John Wayne's "The Cowboys?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:37 AM (Zz0t1)

37 30 Kid with the hat is on page 49 of his manifesto.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:36 AM (Q4IgG)

31 The one in the foreground is writing xer manifesto.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:36 AM (77rzZ)
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Timing is everything.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:38 AM (Q4IgG)

38 Don't let the leper in the window inside!
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks

Too late! Part of him already is!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:38 AM (PfGa7)

39 ---------
Timing is everything.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:38 AM (Q4IgG)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:38 AM (Zz0t1)

40 When are Nancy and Bet gonna stop by for a couple of numbers?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:39 AM (77rzZ)

41 Hey, teacher! Leave them kids alone.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 09:40 AM (PQWix)

42 Da spoon!!!!
My nuns had wooden attention clickers that they wielded like that guy wields his spoon.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 09:40 AM (n4GiU)

43 Frustrated teacher in Down Town, it looks.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:40 AM (Zz0t1)

44 The kids are kinda homely.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 09:40 AM (NpAcC)

45 They don't make 'em like they used to!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 09:40 AM (n+rGF)

46 How can you have any pudding if you won't eat your meat?!?!?!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 09:41 AM (6YdsJ)

47 The kids are kinda homely.

But they're all right!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 09:41 AM (Dg2sF)

48 Do these kids get recess or do they have to stay inside all day and learn how to write Latin?

Posted by: dantesed at June 17, 2025 09:41 AM (Oy/m2)

49 Hey, teacher! Leave them kids alone.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 09:40 AM (PQWix)

That song used to piss my mom off.

"We don't need no education."

"Well, you're OBVIOUSLY not GETTING one!"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:41 AM (Zz0t1)

50 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. The site loaded really slowly this morning. Weird. Anyway I suspect the kid is left handed and is being discriminated against by the others.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 09:42 AM (W/lyH)

51 That's not a teacher . Doesn't have blue hair and there's no Pride Flag™ in the classroom.
Would hang though, thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 09:42 AM (akw+7)

52 My nuns had wooden attention clickers that they wielded like that guy wields his spoon.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 09:40 AM (n4GiU)

After transferring from a Catholic school up north, my first visit to the principal's office in my new Texas school shocked him to find I'd never been paddled.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:43 AM (Zz0t1)

53 44 The kids are kinda homely.
Posted by: redridinghood

I am not an animal!!!

Posted by: Any of the Kids in this Painting at June 17, 2025 09:43 AM (JCZqz)

54 The Wooden Spoon of Authority.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 09:43 AM (Wnv9h)

55 Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 09:42 AM (W/lyH)

It's Tuesday. Don't forget to rub the furry bellies of the geezer golfers today.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:43 AM (77rzZ)

56 The children's faces do look like potatoes. Early Brian Stelter

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 09:43 AM (akw+7)

57 Anyway I suspect the kid is left handed and is being discriminated against by the others.
Goes looking for coffee.
Posted by: Diogenes

Ask me how I know.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:43 AM (PfGa7)

58 That song used to piss my mom off.
---------
And it has unintentionally become relevant.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 09:44 AM (6YdsJ)

59 Kid doesn’t appreciate Tummy Rub Tuesday.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 09:44 AM (mT+6a)

60 Has he taught them how ti sheathe a banana yet?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 09:44 AM (P9gC0)

61 Kid doesn’t appreciate Tummy Rub Tuesday.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 09:44 AM (mT+6a)

But my dog sure does.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:44 AM (Zz0t1)

62 @55 couldn't golf today . It's raining again

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 09:44 AM (akw+7)

63

I'm selling you all to Coyotes for smuggling into Mexico!

Posted by: The Teacher at June 17, 2025 09:45 AM (gYVB4)

64 You were my queen in calico.
I was your bashful, barefoot beau.
You wrote on your slate, "I love you, Joe."
When we were a couple of kids!

Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 17, 2025 09:45 AM (BHrzb)

65 Whacking knuckles.
Posted by: rickb223

***************

Next He'll Play With Bubbles in the Bathtub - a limerick

There once was a teacher from Wight
Who disciplined kids with delight
Wooden spoon or old belt buckles
Were both good for whacking knuckles
.
.
P.S. 'Knuckles' is the kid on the right

Posted by: muldoon at June 17, 2025 09:45 AM (poXs5)

66 Sure Jan

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 09:46 AM (P9gC0)

67 Jan Steen's paintings are always a pleasure to view. Each person has their own pose and facial expression. The lighting is appropriate for the scene, outdoors or inside. The detail, both for landscapes and interiors, is realistic so it doesn't distract from the activity in the image but invites the audience to pay attention as they keep looking. There is a candid snapshot feel to the scenes but done with artistry. His interior scenes, like this one, usually have a window and a view of the land outside. (Shades of the Mona Lisa.)

Like this painting, many of his images are of everyday activities by ordinary folks. I wonder if this was an influence on the later Scandi painters like Carl Larsson.

Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2025 09:46 AM (yTvNw)

68

Alright you all, it's distraction Tuesday, who's on spoon duty?

Posted by: The Teacher at June 17, 2025 09:46 AM (gYVB4)

69 Good form this morning Mr. Muldoon.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 09:46 AM (n4GiU)

70 It's Tuesday. Don't forget to rub the furry bellies of the geezer golfers today.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:43 AM (77rzZ)

Sadly no golf today.
:-(
I am going to pick up my sister and bring her back to stay for a few days. She needs to go to Ft Lewis to finish up the stuff needed after her husband passed away.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 09:47 AM (W/lyH)

71 When i went to school, they did "tracking". Smart kids, medium kids, dumb kids, grouped in separate classes.
In 17th Century Holland, they grouped according to looks. This is the ugly class. The Vlaardingerbroeks were in the well-lit classroom down the hall.

Posted by: Teacher's Pet at June 17, 2025 09:47 AM (G5+As)

72 "What have we here laddie? Mischievous scribblings?? A secret code?? No! Poems no less. Poems everybody!! The laddie reckons himself a poet!!
'Money get back, I'm all right Jack
keep your hands off my stack.
New car, caviar, four-star daydream
I think I'll buy me a football team.'

Absolute rubbish laddie!! *SMACK!!!* Now get back to your work!"

Posted by: Headmaster Hardcheese at June 17, 2025 09:47 AM (V362x)

73 Alright you all, it's distraction Tuesday, who's on spoon duty?
Posted by: The Teacher at June 17, 2025 09:46 AM (gYVB4)

Zombie Chris Cornell has that honor

https://youtu.be/5O14N7PQAsM

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 09:48 AM (B5+rm)

74 I bet they're better at math than most high school graduates of today.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM

They're all into that new craze, fluxions.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 09:48 AM (Wnv9h)

75 I had the same 3rd grade teacher that taught my dad 3rd grade. She was old when he had her, by the time had her she was nearly mummified.

And she carried the same yardstick. Not a ruler, a frigging yardstick. It had better whip action.

She also pulled our loose teeth which was kind of badass.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 09:48 AM (PQWix)

76 Those children are more educated than today’s high school graduates.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 09:48 AM (y65QT)

77 White flag of surrender outside the window.

Posted by: gp Feels So Smoochie at June 17, 2025 09:48 AM (XqSVb)

78 "Don't play stupid with me, Johann! I taught you last year about pregnant men!"

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:49 AM (aBgBM)

79 I saw Whacking Knuckles open for Corporal Punishment at Lewisville High in '81.
Posted by: rickb223
________

We had a schoolboy game involving smacking each other on the forearm with a pencil, the point being to pull just as the metal eraser was impacting to create maximum welt. Ah, the 70s.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 09:49 AM (ITkJX)

80 Just scanned the comments, looks like my post is a 3- peat 😳

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 09:49 AM (y65QT)

81 Hi everyone. Thought I'd check in to see how everyone is doing.

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 09:50 AM (H621s)

82 Sone of them can probably write in cursive and make change.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 09:50 AM (P9gC0)

83 I had the same 3rd grade teacher that taught my dad 3rd grade. She was old when he had her, by the time had her she was nearly mummified.

And she carried the same yardstick. Not a ruler, a frigging yardstick. It had better whip action.

She also pulled our loose teeth which was kind of badass.
Posted by: JackStraw

You went to my grade school?
Kindergarten and third grade teachers were sisters. They got their teaching certificates just after the War of Northern Aggression.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:51 AM (PfGa7)

84 Lecole.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 09:51 AM (P9gC0)

85 If I was misbehaving andI heard the kitchen drawer open, I’d run, knowing mom would be wielding the wooden spoon.

Usually I outran her.

Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 09:52 AM (y65QT)

86 Hi everyone. Thought I'd check in to see how everyone is doing.
Posted by: Taylor

Hi, Taylor. Good to see you again.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:52 AM (77rzZ)

87 That scene is so old, that might be Pythagoras working on his theorem. He's trying to explain it to the dumb-ass teacher who doesn't get it.

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 09:53 AM (B5+rm)

88 That scene is so old, that might be Pythagoras working on his theorem. He's trying to explain it to the dumb-ass teacher who doesn't get it.
Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 09:53 AM (B5+rm)
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Which explains the dismay of the kid to his immediate right.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 09:55 AM (6YdsJ)

89 If I was misbehaving andI heard the kitchen drawer open, I’d run, knowing mom would be wielding the wooden spoon.
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"You just wait until your father gets home!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2025 09:55 AM (XeU6L)

90 Hi everyone. Thought I'd check in to see how everyone is doing.
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 09:50 AM

You left yesterday before I could make espresso!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 09:55 AM (Wnv9h)

91 87 That scene is so old, that might be Pythagoras working on his theorem. He's trying to explain it to the dumb-ass teacher who doesn't get it.
Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 09:53 AM (B5+rm)

====

So, right about the time Vic was teaching?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:55 AM (GBKbO)

92 An element of Steen's paintings I enjoy is there is often some humor involved. In this case it's the chaos in the room while the schoolmaster upbraids the kid. In others he has a group of card players with the woman cheating with a smirk or a family portrait with one uncle sitting in the hearth (not lit at the time). Just a bit of fun added to the scenes.

Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2025 09:55 AM (yTvNw)

93 I like this painting. People doing positive things. Most inspiring.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 17, 2025 09:55 AM (pohLc)

94 Where is the rainbow flag and what time is the Shemale Dancer Story Hour?

Posted by: Government School Groomer & democrat at June 17, 2025 09:55 AM (lbkx/)

95 What's with the spoon?

He broke his cane.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 09:56 AM (cSMYS)

96 Homec.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 09:57 AM (P9gC0)

97 Hi, Taylor. Good to see you again.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:52 AM (77rzZ)

Thank you, you too! Bro was telling me you're in NoVA?

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 09:57 AM (H621s)

98 Grades K - 8. 1 teacher per grade. 9 total.
Cumulative age? 450 years. Average age - 50.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:57 AM (PfGa7)

99 couldn't golf today . It's raining again

You asked for it:

https://tinyurl.com/5d9f2d4s

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 09:57 AM (Dg2sF)

100 So, right about the time Vic was teaching?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:55 AM (GBKbO)

Vic probably taught the great grandparents of the teacher in this photo.

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 09:57 AM (B5+rm)

101 That scene is so old, that might be Pythagoras working on his theorem.
Posted by: Doof

And many cheerful thoughts about the square of the hypotenuse.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM (77rzZ)

102 Minnesota: Two Muslims charged with possession of machine guns in connection with high school graduation shootings

… what is going on in Minnesota ?

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM (RHGPo)

103 100 So, right about the time Vic was teaching?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:55 AM (GBKbO)

Vic probably taught the great grandparents of the teacher in this photo.
Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 09:57 AM (B5+rm)

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Ah, yes.

He came out of retirement to do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM (GBKbO)

104 You left yesterday before I could make espresso!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 09:55 AM (Wnv9h)

Oh, man. Can I have a double today to make up for it?

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM (H621s)

105 102 Minnesota: Two Muslims charged with possession of machine guns in connection with high school graduation shootings

… what is going on in Minnesota ?
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM (RHGPo)

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The Curley Effect.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM (GBKbO)

106 I bet they're better at math than most high school graduates of today.

Heck, they're probably better at English, too. And they're Dutch!

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 09:59 AM (GUvny)

107 So no motive?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 09:59 AM (P9gC0)

108 This is why they have museums. So you can enjoy paintings you wouldn't otherwise hang in your home.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 09:59 AM (VofaG)

109 "You just wait until your father gets home!"

Once again, you asked for it:

https://tinyurl.com/4a3xmkbw

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 10:00 AM (Dg2sF)

110 I don't feel tardy. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 10:00 AM (cYBz/)

111 Thank you, you too! Bro was telling me you're in NoVA?
Posted by: Taylor

Yep. I've suggested that we meet up for lunch sometime, but we haven't scheduled anything yet.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:00 AM (77rzZ)

112 That scene is so old, that might be Pythagoras working on his theorem. He's trying to explain it to the dumb-ass teacher who doesn't get it.
Posted by: Doof
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Actually, I have occasionally marveled at the fact that millions and millions of people have used the Pythagorean Theorem, without ever having seen or studied the proof. It is simply an accepted truth, and yet people have no idea why.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2025 10:01 AM (XeU6L)

113 ... the you use Pythagoras' Theorem and with a simple application to Fermat's Last Theorem ...

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 10:01 AM (RHGPo)

114
Almost Heaven, West Virginia - a limerick

Some school kids from out in "The Pines"
Learned times tables up to the nines
Billy said, "What's the point?
Let's get out of this joint.
We'll just end up down in the mines."

Posted by: muldoon at June 17, 2025 10:01 AM (poXs5)

115 Nat Gal of Erin

Jan Steen, Dutch, 1626-1679
Title:
The Village School
Date:
c.1665
Medium:
Oil on canvas
Dimensions:
110.5 x 80.2 cm
Credit Line:
Purchased, 1879

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 10:01 AM (gbOdA)

116 Why is it that Hispanics won't buy a Chevy Nova ?

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 10:02 AM (RHGPo)

117 Heck, they're probably better at English, too. And they're Dutch!
Posted by: t-bird

Eva Vlaardingerbroek speaks English practically like a native.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:02 AM (77rzZ)

118 In Canada, chicken is a vegetable.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 10:02 AM (crzDU)

119 The Vlaardingerbroeks were in the well-lit classroom down the hall.

"Rose, not another St. Olaf story!"
Dorothy and/or Blanche

Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 17, 2025 10:02 AM (BHrzb)

120 And many cheerful thoughts about the square of the hypotenuse.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM (77rzZ)

One of them might have been acute one

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:02 AM (B5+rm)

121 Yep. I've suggested that we meet up for lunch sometime, but we haven't scheduled anything yet.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:00 AM (77rzZ)

He would like that. Get his ass out of the house before he starts watching Desperate Housewives or something.

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:02 AM (H621s)

122 Have a crew pouring a concrete porch deck next door. Not a word of English.

We need trade high schools STAT.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:03 AM (VofaG)

123 121 He would like that. Get his ass out of the house before he starts watching Desperate Housewives or something.
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:02 AM (H621s)

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My view of WitchDoktor is suddenly...VERY different.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 10:03 AM (GBKbO)

124 Nova means doesn't go.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 10:03 AM (P9gC0)

125 I had Miss Hashagen in third grade in 1963 at PS 160 in Bay Ridge Brooklyn. She was 63 at the time. First hired by NYC Public Schools in 1923. She never had another job and worked there until she was 72. Searching her name recently, I found out how much she made and what raises she got. Also found the nice little brownstone she lived in for 50+ years.
She never learned to drive, took subway to work. She was a very good teacher, wore those clunky granny shoes.

Never hit me with a wooden spoon.

Posted by: Another World at June 17, 2025 10:03 AM (G5+As)

126 I had the same instructor for biology as my Dad did decades earlier.

Les Clay.

Every year he introduced himself as:

"Les Clay. More soil."

RIP Mr. Clay.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 10:04 AM (cYBz/)

127 Why is it that Hispanics won't buy a Chevy Nova ?
Posted by: SMOD

Nova = no go in Spanglish.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 10:04 AM (PfGa7)

128 One of them might have been acute one
Posted by: Doof

Well, you're obtuse, so you wouldn't know.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:04 AM (77rzZ)

129 :-(
I am going to pick up my sister and bring her back to stay for a few days. She needs to go to Ft Lewis to finish up the stuff needed after her husband passed away.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 09:47 AM (W/lyH)

She hot?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:05 AM (Zz0t1)

130 Actually, I have occasionally marveled at the fact that millions and millions of people have used the Pythagorean Theorem, without ever having seen or studied the proof. It is simply an accepted truth, and yet people have no idea why.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2025 10:01 AM (XeU6L)

Would you believe me if I told you that I actually spent some time many years ago testing out the theorem with a ruler and a calculator?

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:05 AM (B5+rm)

131 Actually, I have occasionally marveled at the fact that millions and millions of people have used the Pythagorean Theorem, without ever having seen or studied the proof. It is simply an accepted truth, and yet people have no idea why.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2025 10:01 AM (XeU6L)

Much the same way that an accepted constant in the universe is that Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:06 AM (H621s)

132 Why is it that Hispanics won't buy a Chevy Nova ?
Posted by: SMOD

Nova = no go in Spanglish.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 10:04 AM (PfGa7)
--------
Urban legend.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 10:07 AM (6YdsJ)

133 Village of the Dayumed always freaked me out.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 10:07 AM (gbOdA)

134 Would you believe me if I told you that I actually spent some time many years ago testing out the theorem with a ruler and a calculator?
Posted by: Doof

Was this before or after you tried to calculate all the digits of pi?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:07 AM (77rzZ)

135 Old version not new one

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 10:07 AM (gbOdA)

136 The Vlaardingerbroeks were in the well-lit classroom down the hall.

"Rose, not another St. Olaf story!"
Dorothy and/or Blanche
Posted by: Pete in Texas

Sophia.
Sadly, I get that.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 10:07 AM (PfGa7)

137 One of them might have been acute one
Posted by: Doof

Well, you're obtuse, so you wouldn't know.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:04 AM (77rzZ)

*nods in agreement*

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:08 AM (B5+rm)

138 Oh, man. Can I have a double today to make up for it?
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM

Here...hold your cup up to the USB port.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:08 AM (kgE5c)

139 My view of WitchDoktor is suddenly...VERY different.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 10:03 AM (GBKbO)

He did go through an Extreme Home Makeover phase years ago. Would cry at the scripted reveals.

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:08 AM (H621s)

140 Why is it that Hispanics won't buy a Chevy Nova ?
Posted by: SMOD

Nova = no go in Spanglish.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 10:04 AM (PfGa7)
--------
Urban legend.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 10:07 AM (6YdsJ)

its also why there are no Hispanic astronomers.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:08 AM (VofaG)

141 Ah, yes.

He came out of retirement to do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM (GBKbO)

I remember his birth as if it were yesterday.

Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at June 17, 2025 10:08 AM (Zz0t1)

142 The Mexican Space Program.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 10:09 AM (P9gC0)

143
-3 4 5
-6 8 10
-9 12 15
-12 16 20
-15 20 25

I have laid out several decks with the 15 20 25

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 10:10 AM (gbOdA)

144 The Mexican Space Program.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 10:09 AM (P9gC0)

Get high, ese......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:10 AM (Zz0t1)

145 He would like that. Get his ass out of the house before he starts watching Desperate Housewives or something.
Posted by: Taylor

Maybe the three of us could get together.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:10 AM (77rzZ)

146 its also why there are no Hispanic astronomers.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:08 AM (VofaG)

No se

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 10:10 AM (gbOdA)

147 Minnesota: Two Muslims charged with possession of machine guns in connection with high school graduation shootings

… what is going on in Minnesota ?
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM

Asked and answered.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:10 AM (kgE5c)

148 Here...hold your cup up to the USB port.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:08 AM (kgE5c)

Aren't you the smooth talker...?

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:10 AM (H621s)

149 Would you believe me if I told you that I actually spent some time many years ago testing out the theorem with a ruler and a calculator?
Posted by: Doof
-----

Neither is necessary for a proof.

Euclid proposition: 1.47

https://themathpage.com/aBookI/propI-47.htm

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2025 10:11 AM (XeU6L)

150 The Mexican Space Program.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 10:09 AM (P9gC0)
-------
Free Wilzyx.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 10:11 AM (6YdsJ)

151 Minnesota: Two Muslims charged with possession of machine guns in connection with high school graduation shootings

… what is going on in Minnesota ?
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM

Asked and answered.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

They're assassinatin' er one up in there!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 10:11 AM (PfGa7)

152 Green Energy Stocks Puke As Senate Bill Targets Early End To Tax Credits

Green bubble busts some more. The party is over.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 10:11 AM (RHGPo)

153 They stopped using Euclid's book in the late 1980s.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 10:12 AM (P9gC0)

154 Shucks! Shelter time!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 10:12 AM (n+rGF)

155
… what is going on in Minnesota ?
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 09:58 AM

The AG is muslham.
Tim Walz is governor.
Ilhan Omar is a rep.

Seems self-explanatory to me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:12 AM (Zz0t1)

156 Well, you're obtuse, so you wouldn't know.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:04 AM (77rzZ)

*nods in agreement*
Posted by: Doof

I'll miss seeing you at the MoMe this weekend. Have a bourbon for me.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:12 AM (77rzZ)

157 Over the weekend, the U.S. Air Force dropped not one but two enigmatic Emergency Action Messages (EAMs).

On June 14, a 246-character encrypted code blasted across the High‑Frequency Global Communications System (HFGCS)—the same system used to transmit emergency alerts to our nuclear-capable bombers, missiles, and subs.

The very next day, June 15, another code—this time clocking in at nearly 290 characters—was broadcast .

EAMs usually top out at around 30 characters.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 10:12 AM (RHGPo)

158 Shucks! Shelter time!
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Stay safe!

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:13 AM (77rzZ)

159 Shucks! Shelter time!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 10:12 AM (n+rGF)

Godspeed, sir.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:13 AM (Zz0t1)

160 Maybe the three of us could get together.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:10 AM (77rzZ)

I'll nag him for you. I'm only here in the OBX until Friday then I'm headed back west. Honestly can't wait to get out of here. This is the most boring house I've ever stayed in here.

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:13 AM (H621s)

161 He did go through an Extreme Home Makeover phase years ago. Would cry at the scripted reveals.
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:08 AM

*snort*

I have buddy with three sisters. All three were on What Not to Wear back in '05.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (kgE5c)

162 I think the erector launchers are in short supply.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (P9gC0)

163 Elon Musk Turns on Starlink for Iranian Public After Islamic Regime Cuts Off Internet Service

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (RHGPo)

164 Wait -- what? That school teacher isn't a fat blue-haired nose-ringed creepoid dyke?

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (iFTx/)

165
Aren't you the smooth talker...?
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:10 AM (H621s)

You asked for it..........ish.....

https://youtu.be/4TYv2PhG89A

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (Zz0t1)

166 Have a crew pouring a concrete porch deck next door. Not a word of English.

We need trade high schools STAT.

With lots of field time.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (GUvny)

167 I'll miss seeing you at the MoMe this weekend. Have a bourbon for me.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:12 AM

You're not coming to the MoMe?!

boo!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:15 AM (kgE5c)

168 Sirens.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 10:16 AM (P9gC0)

169 Maybe the three of us could get together.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:10 AM (77rzZ)

I'll nag him for you. I'm only here in the OBX until Friday then I'm headed back west. Honestly can't wait to get out of here. This is the most boring house I've ever stayed in here.
Posted by: Taylor

Thanks.

I loved the Outer Banks the one time I was there.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:16 AM (77rzZ)

170 Pour encourager les autres!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 09:32 AM

The metrification, with a minor in Frogology, of CBD continues.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2025 10:16 AM (N5sob)

171 We need trade high schools STAT.

With lots of field time.
Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (GUvny)

I cemented in the last fence post yesterday and will be finishing the fence today.

Finally, a finished project. Maybe this will lead to a domino effect and I'll finish more projects.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:16 AM (Zz0t1)

172 You asked for it..........ish.....

https://youtu.be/4TYv2PhG89A
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM

*golf clap*

I was going to let those of the Horde who've met me answer that one.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:17 AM (kgE5c)

173 You're not coming to the MoMe?!

boo!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:15 AM (kgE5c)

One of these years. I would like to make the NoVa and PNW meets.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:17 AM (Zz0t1)

174 You asked for it..........ish.....

https://youtu.be/4TYv2PhG89A
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (Zz0t1)

I love that song!

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:17 AM (H621s)

175 Something I just came across. Wish I were in a better mood to appreciate its charm:

https://tinyurl.com/46cd7mtb

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 10:17 AM (Dg2sF)

176 Sirens off. Nothing.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 10:17 AM (P9gC0)

177
I love that song!
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:17 AM (H621s)

You're welcome.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:18 AM (Zz0t1)

178
https://tinyurl.com/46cd7mtb
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 10:17 AM (Dg2sF)

Woof.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:19 AM (Zz0t1)

179 I loved the Outer Banks the one time I was there.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:16 AM (77rzZ)

I've been here a few times and have usually liked it. This year the group went in for a house at the Currituck Club. So instead of a beach and waves we get to sit on the back deck and watch golfers. And not even cute golfers. Creepy middle aged manly men wieh their stupid Callaway hats trying to impress each other while shooting 16 over par.

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:19 AM (H621s)

180 102 Minnesota: Two Muslims charged with possession of machine guns in connection with high school graduation shootings

… what is going on in Minnesota ?
Posted by: SMOD

It's called multiculturalism, and it's beautiful. It's what makes America so great and strong, even though I hate America and want to fundamentally change it.

Posted by: Ilhan Omar at June 17, 2025 10:20 AM (JCZqz)

181 EXCLUSIVE: How Chinese Intel Infiltrated LA Mayor Karen Bass’ Camp
An official in Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass’ administration is the son of a Chinatown powerbroker and Democratic donor who has praised the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and works with foreign intelligence agencies, a Daily Caller News Foundation investigation discovered.
_____

Infiltration or invitation?

(One time, at Bass' Camp....)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 10:20 AM (Dv3i1)

182 Melting pot.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 10:20 AM (P9gC0)

183 I'll miss seeing you at the MoMe this weekend. Have a bourbon for me.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:12 AM (77rzZ)

A bourbon, huh? I'll give it a try. Been hearing good things.

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:20 AM (B5+rm)

184 P.S. 'Knuckles' is the kid on the right

***********

The teacher had a formidable knack
For giving naughty Knuckles a whack
There are even some who say
He knocked him into Tuesday
.
.
P.S. 'Tuesday' is the gitl in the back!

Posted by: muldoon at June 17, 2025 10:21 AM (poXs5)

185 You're not coming to the MoMe?!

boo!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

My great niece, daughter of a niece whom I haven't seen in years is having a HS graduation party back in Michigan. I'm going to reconnect with family members.

My niece had drug issues for many years, but seems to have finally gone sober and cleaned up her act. She called me out of the blue a couple of months ago after I hadn't talked to her in probably twelve years. I'm so happy that she's clean and wants to reconnect, so I'm going to the party for her daughter, whom I knew only as a small child, to reforge those familial bonds.

I'm happy that something is finally going right in my relations with my extended family.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:21 AM (77rzZ)

186 One of these years. I would like to make the NoVa and PNW meets.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:17 AM (Zz0t1)

The MoMe Triple Crown. Has anyone done that in a single year?

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:22 AM (B5+rm)

187 My great niece, daughter of a niece whom I haven't seen in years is having a HS graduation party back in Michigan. I'm going to reconnect with family members.

My niece had drug issues for many years, but seems to have finally gone sober and cleaned up her act. She called me out of the blue a couple of months ago after I hadn't talked to her in probably twelve years. I'm so happy that she's clean and wants to reconnect, so I'm going to the party for her daughter, whom I knew only as a small child, to reforge those familial bonds.

I'm happy that something is finally going right in my relations with my extended family.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:21 AM (77rzZ)

It sounds like you have the right priorities!

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:22 AM (H621s)

188 Aren't you the smooth talker...?
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:10 AM (H621s)

You asked for it..........ish.....

https://youtu.be/4TYv2PhG89A
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (Zz0t1)
______

That song has been successful at its intended purpose ... at night in Castle Blade ... champagne ... candlelight ... well, you can figure it out ....

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 10:23 AM (iFTx/)

189 Stocks and oil are kinda meh at the Iran news. Betting it won’t turn into anything more than it is now.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 10:23 AM (/CkK4)

190 On June 14, a 246-character encrypted code blasted across the High‑Frequency Global Communications System (HFGCS)—the same system used to transmit emergency alerts to our nuclear-capable bombers, missiles, and subs.

***FLASH***Be sure to drink your Ovaltine. REPEAT Be sure to drink your Ovaltine. ***FLASH***

Posted by: Secret Message at June 17, 2025 10:24 AM (JCZqz)

191 One of these years. I would like to make the NoVa and PNW meets.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:17 AM (Zz0t1)

The MoMe Triple Crown. Has anyone done that in a single year?
Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:22 AM (B5+rm)
_________

Justify

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 10:24 AM (iFTx/)

192 what is going on in Minnesota ?
Posted by: SMO

30 years of open borders. LA is Mexico, Minneapolis is Somalia.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 10:25 AM (/CkK4)

193 The MoMe Triple Crown. Has anyone done that in a single year?
Posted by: Doof

Yep. Me and Jordan61.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 10:25 AM (oyXpg)

194 The MoMe Triple Crown. Has anyone done that in a single year?
Posted by: Doof

Yep. Me and Jordan61.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 10:25 AM (oyXpg)

Legends

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:26 AM (B5+rm)

195 Creepy middle aged manly men wieh their stupid Callaway hats trying to impress each other while shooting 16 over par.
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:19 AM (H621s)/i]

HEY!!!! I resemble that remark.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:28 AM (Zz0t1)

196 I'm happy that something is finally going right in my relations with my extended family.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:21 AM

Great to hear, Bulg! We'll hoist one (or two) for you and the family.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:28 AM (kgE5c)

197 Little dude is all "No Math!"

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 17, 2025 10:28 AM (MsrgL)

198 Have to admit the guy who is operating the mini back hoe is doing it like a boss. He could scratch someone's back with his precision.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:29 AM (VofaG)

199 Creepy middle aged manly men wieh their stupid Callaway hats trying to impress each other while shooting 16 over par.
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:19 AM (H621s)/i]

HEY!!!! I resemble that remark.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:28 AM

You golf?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:29 AM (kgE5c)

200
Yep. Me and Jordan61.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 10:25 AM (oyXpg)

Legends
Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:26 AM (B5+rm)

WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!

*bows*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:29 AM (Zz0t1)

201 Well, I'd better go. The weather is lifting a bit and it's time to go annoy the golfers. The house is next to, and I mean RIGHT next to, the men's tee on one of the holes. When the sun came out yesterday the girls and I decided to go out and work on our tans. Pretty sure that par three turned into a par seven.

Yes gentlemen, we play games with you too.

Later.

Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:29 AM (H621s)

202 It sounds like you have the right priorities!
Posted by: Taylor

I have posted here many times about my family troubles. Six kids. Everything went to hell after our folks died. Feuding over the estate, which included a lot of farmland. I have a sister who still won't communicate with me, despite the fact that I wrote her a conciliatory letter earlier this year. And a brother who behaved terribly to the rest of us, so I have cut off contact with him and his family as well.

So this turn of events with my niece is a welcome bright spot.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:30 AM (77rzZ)

203 reepy middle aged manly men wieh their stupid Callaway hats trying to impress each other while shooting 16 over par.
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:19 AM (H621s)/i]

you seem nice.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:30 AM (VofaG)

204 The MoMe Triple Crown. Has anyone done that in a single year?
Posted by: Doof

Yep. Me and Jordan61.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 10:25 AM

Impressive. Most impressive.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:30 AM (kgE5c)

205 Creepy middle aged manly men wieh their stupid Callaway hats trying to impress each other while shooting 16 over par.
Posted by: Taylor

That's awful, Jack! I got a handicap, uh, around 6. I could whoop Donald, or any of those men!

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 17, 2025 10:30 AM (JCZqz)

206 You golf?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:29 AM (kgE5c)

Well, I wouldn't call it golf.

While I cut WAY back due to back issues, I do still play on occasion.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:30 AM (Zz0t1)

207 Teacher was a bit autistic, hence the term "Spoonerisms"

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 10:30 AM (w9Wax)

208 Shortly after Israel began its military operation targeting Iran’s nuclear program and its military, Leftist editors on Wikipedia proposed deleting the article “Destruction of Israel in Iranian policy” linked from the military operation page, as the Iranian policy is a key component of Israel’s justification of the operation. Discussion is bitterly divided between those advocating deletion of the page or merging it into other articles and those arguing for keeping the page.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 10:30 AM (RHGPo)

209 When the sun came out yesterday the girls and I decided to go out and work on our tans. Pretty sure that par three turned into a par seven.

Yes gentlemen, we play games with you too.

Later.
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:29 AM (H621s)

There are RULES here, you know......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:31 AM (Zz0t1)

210 Great to hear, Bulg! We'll hoist one (or two) for you and the family.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Thanks, RMBS! Please give my regards to your mother.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:31 AM (77rzZ)

211 what is going on in Minnesota?

Mary's mustang blew up.

Rhoda moved back to New York.

Posted by: Case at June 17, 2025 10:32 AM (k7qYZ)

212 Thanks all. At the end, Jerusalem residence didn't have to seek shelter. All intercepted or fell in open areas.

Back to work!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 10:32 AM (n+rGF)

213
Thanks, RMBS! Please give my regards to your mother.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:31 AM (77rzZ)/i]

Your Mother!!!

Posted by: Egon Spengler at June 17, 2025 10:32 AM (Zz0t1)

214 Thanks, RMBS! Please give my regards to your mother.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:31 AM

Will do, Bulg. Enjoy the family time.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:32 AM (kgE5c)

215 Damn keyboard.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:33 AM (Zz0t1)

216 Back to work!
Posted by: Biden's Dog

What do you do?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:33 AM (77rzZ)

217 Damn keyboard.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:33 AM

I damn thee, keyboard!

Posted by: Navin R. Johnson at June 17, 2025 10:34 AM (kgE5c)

218 And the next year we added the Colorado Morondesvouz hosted by WDS.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 10:34 AM (B96Jb)

219 All and all he’s just another brick in the wall.

- Floyd, Pink

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 10:34 AM (2Rbgs)

220 I like all the mini equipment this concrete crew has to complete a project in a tight space. They just brought up a motorized 'Wheelbarrow' on tracks to haul away the dirt.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:35 AM (VofaG)

221 School teacher, Jan Steen, 1668

Realistic with the quill pens, the wooden spoon used for correction, a drape to separate the boys' class from the girls,' and so on. Also, good color, highlighting and detailing.

Like it and would consider hanging with rotational pieces. Thanks.

(Yes, in 1668, Dutch girls also had access to basic education.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 10:35 AM (NFX2v)

222 Well, I wouldn't call it golf.

While I cut WAY back due to back issues, I do still play on occasion.
Posted by: Sponge

How's your pickleball game?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:35 AM (77rzZ)

223 How's your pickleball game?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:35 AM (77rzZ)

Non-existant.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:36 AM (Zz0t1)

224 Is the spoon what he disciplines the children with?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 10:36 AM (bss/y)

225 How's your pickleball game?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:35 AM (77rzZ)

Non-existant.
Posted by: Sponge

I can't believe that Doof permits that situation to persist.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:37 AM (77rzZ)

226 Is the spoon what he disciplines the children with?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

It beats a garlic press.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:37 AM (77rzZ)

227 What do you do?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:33 AM (77rzZ)
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Software.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 10:38 AM (n+rGF)

228
I can't believe that Doof permits that situation to persist.
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:37 AM (77rzZ)

I don't think he wants to be responsible for my cardiac arrest.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

229 > I like all the mini equipment this concrete crew has to complete a project in a tight space. They just brought up a motorized 'Wheelbarrow' on tracks to haul away the dirt.
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The roofers who were here two years ago used a machine to lift the packages of shingles up a ladder to our roof. Ran on compressed air. Pretty neat.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 10:39 AM (Q4IgG)

230 Whelp, off to work.

Have a good day, everyone.

Rub them tummies.

But only if she lets you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 10:39 AM (Zz0t1)

231 Creepy middle aged manly men wieh their stupid Callaway hats trying to impress each other while shooting 16 over par.

Yes but they'll do better on the second hole, now that they're warmed up...

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at June 17, 2025 10:40 AM (Da7Vv)

232 LATER!!!, Sponge.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:41 AM (77rzZ)

233 Mostly White Racist Anti-ICE Protesters Clash With Black And Hispanic Pro-Cop Demonstrators In Manhattan

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 10:42 AM (RHGPo)

234 I like all the mini equipment this concrete crew has to complete a project in a tight space. They just brought up a motorized 'Wheelbarrow' on tracks to haul away the dirt.
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The roofers who were here two years ago used a machine to lift the packages of shingles up a ladder to our roof. Ran on compressed air. Pretty neat.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

You should see the battery powered dolly they use to move gun safes. It can lift an 800 lb gun safe and climb stairs. And it won't tip over.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 10:42 AM (PfGa7)

235 Creepy middle aged manly men wieh their stupid Callaway hats trying to impress each other while shooting 16 over par.
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:19 AM (H621s)/i]

Would they be less creepy with Taylor Made hats?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 10:43 AM (/CkK4)

236 72 years since the East Berlin uprising.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 10:44 AM (2Rbgs)

237 The roofers who were here two years ago used a machine to lift the packages of shingles up a ladder to our roof. Ran on compressed air. Pretty neat.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 10:39 AM (Q4IgG)

I've seen the conveyor belt machine before. I wish I had that when I worked for Lowes in the late 70's delivering shingles , sheetrock, etc.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:45 AM (VofaG)

238 Creepy middle aged manly men wieh their stupid Callaway hats trying to impress each other while shooting 16 over par.
Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:19 AM (H621s)

16 over par -- I can't even do that when I only play 9 holes.

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:45 AM (B5+rm)

239 Your daily dose of stupid from the Atlantic:
"How Ivermectin Became Right-Wing Aspirin"
BY BENJAMIN MAZER
Once a suspect COVID treatment, now a cure for everything

It won a Pulitzer Prize for medicine. And a new research trial showed that it shrunk brain tumors in mice.

But by all means, make a drug used all over the world out to be poison, because trump adjacent doctors and plebes endorsed it during the pandemic.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 10:46 AM (gWBY1)

240 And it won't tip over.

Like Guam.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 10:47 AM (if0co)

241 Golf is a supremely humbling game.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 10:47 AM (bss/y)

242 241 Golf is a supremely humbling game.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 10:47 AM (bss/y)
========

Not when it's always the clubs' fault for shanking my shots!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 10:48 AM (GBKbO)

243 Your daily dose of stupid from the Atlantic:
"How Ivermectin Became Right-Wing Aspirin"
BY BENJAMIN MAZER
Once a suspect COVID treatment, now a cure for everything

Less dangerous than aspirin.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:48 AM (VofaG)

244 @239 Can't let Ivermecton be seen as something that could be sold OTC. All sorts of pharma revenue streams would be at stake.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 10:48 AM (Dv3i1)

245 School teacher
Jan Steen

Such a great scene. No artificial poses.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 10:48 AM (4lDi5)

246 Sad what's happened to the Atlantic. Used to be a very interesting and well-written publication.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:49 AM (77rzZ)

247 Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 10:46 AM (gWBY1)

Nobel Prize but I know what you meant.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:49 AM (VofaG)

248 The spoon has "Gluteus Whacksimus" written on it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 10:49 AM (qpyNK)

249 I’ve never shot below 16 over part lol.
My best round ever was 90. And that was a pretty easy course. So 18 over part since I assume it was a par 72 course.

The average handicap for us golfers is 14. So 16 is over par is about the typical golfer.

And 14 is for people who track their handicap. A lot of people don’t. And those people tend to have very high handicaps. Which means the real average is probably more like 16 or 17.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 10:49 AM (/CkK4)

250 It won a ~~Pulitzer~~ Nobel Prize for medicine. And a new research trial showed that it shrunk brain tumors in mice.

But by all means, make a drug used all over the world out to be poison, because trump adjacent doctors and plebes endorsed it during the pandemic.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 10:46 AM

FIFY.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:50 AM (kgE5c)

251 > But by all means, make a drug used all over the world out to be poison, because trump adjacent doctors and plebes endorsed it during the pandemic.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 10:46 AM (gWBY1)

It's been said before: Trump could cure cancer, and the media headlines would be "Trump puts millions of doctors out of work"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 10:50 AM (qpyNK)

252 OT:

MSNBC ewetub video headline:

'Trump appears overwhelmed as support withers!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 10:51 AM (bss/y)

253 There is no spoon.

Posted by: The bald kid from The Matrix at June 17, 2025 10:51 AM (PiwSw)

254 'Trump appears overwhelmed as support withers!'
_____

Trump supporters are getting tired of winning?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 10:52 AM (Dv3i1)

255 I waved a wide plastic spatula a lot but rarely made contact.

That was so much easier than mom's leather belts or a carnival cane, or the wooden paddles of different sizes (for palms of hands or butt) used in public elementary schools.

(The paddles often had holes drilled through them for less resistance, I guess.)

Lessons in cause and effect

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 10:52 AM (NFX2v)

256 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 10:49 AM (/CkK4)

I would guess the average score of 80% of golfers is over 90. That would put the average handicap score somewhere in the 20's for the vast majority of golfers.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:52 AM (VofaG)

257 Ivermectin seems to help with shingles. I have fewer nerve problems after I take it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 17, 2025 10:52 AM (AcTAo)

258 >>> 163 Elon Musk Turns on Starlink for Iranian Public After Islamic Regime Cuts Off Internet Service Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (RHGPo)

Libs are panicking, they haven't gotten the pre-approved messaging from their betters if they are allowed to like Elon again.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 10:52 AM (gWBY1)

259 It's been said before: Trump could cure cancer, and the media headlines would be "Trump puts millions of doctors out of work"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Former Michigan football coach Bo Schembechler on his relationship with the press: "I could walk on water and the headline the next day would be 'Bo Can't Swim'."

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:53 AM (77rzZ)

260 254 'Trump appears overwhelmed as support withers!'
_____

Trump supporters are getting tired of winning?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 10:52 AM (Dv3i1)

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"Terrible polling firms with terrible histories at accuracy, even at crunch time, are saying Trump has low support at a point that's not even crunch time. Believe us and forget that these polling firms suck ass."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)

261 Another “poll” shows Trump at 42 support.
One last week had him at 38.

These two are splashed all over the msm.

However polls showing him in positive territory from Rasmussen, Quantus, and ARG….silence.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 10:53 AM (/CkK4)

262 Very medieval feel. I suspect that little kid is a young Theodoric of York.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 10:54 AM (qBdHI)

263 Pacific Palisades Fire Victims Given Seven Days by County to Clear Their Property or Face Liens

... the mayor and governor are doing their best to legally steal as much of the Pacific Palisades with rock bottom payments

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 10:54 AM (RHGPo)

264 MSNBC ewetub video headline:

'Trump appears overwhelmed as support withers!'
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 17, 2025 10:51 AM (bss/y)

one ex MLB player threatens to pull support for Trump if we proceed with military action against Iran and the Left thinks that is a larger sign of lost support.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:55 AM (VofaG)

265 A huge thank you to all the No Kings protesters yesterday.

I was very concerned a king was trying to take my place, but thanks to your tireless efforts, I AM STILL YOUR PRESIDENT. Great job all!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

😂😂😂

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 10:55 AM (PfGa7)

266 Spare the spoon, spoil the child.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 17, 2025 10:55 AM (7NkZG)

267 > So 16 is over par is about the typical golfer.

So actual par is 16 over par?

Yep. Makes as much sense as anything else in golf.

Reminds me of the Spinal Tap amps that go to 11.

Heh.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 10:55 AM (qpyNK)

268 The withers are an essential part of the horse's anatomy, as they provide support and stability for the animal during movement.

Trump is our Secretariat.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 10:55 AM (w9Wax)

269 Posted by: Taylor at June 17, 2025 10:19 AM (H621s)

Gotta admit, "First Lieutenant Suburbia" made me laugh so fucking hard...

Thank you for that.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 10:55 AM (lHAAk)

270 ... the mayor and governor are doing their best to legally steal as much of the Pacific Palisades with rock bottom payments
Posted by: SMOD

For the Olympics.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 10:55 AM (77rzZ)

271 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 17, 2025 10:50 AM (kgE5c)

Hah, quite a different award, my bad! I need some caffeine to wake up, apparently.

Though honestly, ever since Al Gore won a Nobel, it plummeted in cachet for me. But libs still care an awful lot.

Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 10:55 AM (gWBY1)

272 263 Pacific Palisades Fire Victims Given Seven Days by County to Clear Their Property or Face Liens
____

I'm going to guess that you are prohibited from clearing the property due to presence of hazardous materials and the city only permitted one well connected company to provide these clearing services and they are booked up.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 10:56 AM (Dv3i1)

273 Elon Musk Turns on Starlink for Iranian Public After Islamic Regime Cuts Off Internet Service Posted by: SMOD

I wonder how many have starlink dishes?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 10:57 AM (PfGa7)

274 A huge thank you to all the No Kings protesters yesterday.

I was very concerned a king was trying to take my place, but thanks to your tireless efforts, I AM STILL YOUR PRESIDENT. Great job all!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

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Ha! A thing of beauty.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 10:57 AM (qBdHI)

275 So actual par is 16 over par?

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No. Actual par is par. 16 over is 16 over par.

🤪

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 10:57 AM (/CkK4)

276 "Terrible polling firms with terrible histories at accuracy, even at crunch time, are saying Trump has low support at a point that's not even crunch time. Believe us and forget that these polling firms suck ass."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)

I'm now realizing that I haven't seen Dave in FLA around here in a quite a while.

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:57 AM (B5+rm)

277 It's been said before: Trump could cure cancer, and the media headlines would be "Trump puts millions of doctors out of work"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 10:50 AM (qpyNK)

My mom has said, repeatedly, that even if Trump himself cured her cancer, she's advocate for his death.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 10:58 AM (lHAAk)

278 > No. Actual par is par. 16 over is 16 over par.

🤪
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 10:57 AM (/CkK4)

Isn't par supposed to be the average?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 10:58 AM (qpyNK)

279 276 I'm now realizing that I haven't seen Dave in FLA around here in a quite a while.
Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 10:57 AM (B5+rm)

=======

He's left us for X.

He posts there once a day.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 10:58 AM (GBKbO)

280 (The paddles often had holes drilled through them for less resistance, I guess.)

That's what our German teacher (the class, though he was also PA Dutch) told us. He backed up his theory for a few of us. All in fun, we just wanted to try it.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 10:58 AM (tJ2Kx)

281 Pacific Palisades Fire Victims Given Seven Days by County to Clear Their Property or Face Liens
____

I'm going to guess that you are prohibited from clearing the property due to presence of hazardous materials and the city only permitted one well connected company to provide these clearing services and they are booked up.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

Proof positive that there will never be a grassroots uprising. The mayor and Newscum should be drug out and shot over this.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 10:58 AM (PfGa7)

282 My mom has said, repeatedly, that even if Trump himself cured her cancer, she's advocate for his death.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 10:58 AM (lHAAk)

Is that reflective of the type of childhood you had? I hope not.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:59 AM (VofaG)

283 Nood minimalist

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 10:59 AM (lHAAk)

284 281 Proof positive that there will never be a grassroots uprising. The mayor and Newscum should be drug out and shot over this.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 10:58 AM (PfGa7)

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Take up arms, or simply move away.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 10:59 AM (GBKbO)

285 275 So actual par is 16 over par?

—

No. Actual par is par. 16 over is 16 over par.

huh?

Posted by: captain oveur at June 17, 2025 10:59 AM (sGtp+)

286 Nood!

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 10:59 AM (w9Wax)

287 Is that reflective of the type of childhood you had? I hope not.

Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 10:59 AM (VofaG)

My mom's brightest point of pride is that she's never (not once) apologized to anyone. She's never needed to, you see.

It's an absolute fucking miracle that I'm somewhat functional as an adult.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 11:02 AM (lHAAk)

288 @IsraelWarRoom
1h
17 US aerial refueling tankers are heading from Europe towards the @CENTCOM AOR, reports @AmichaiStein1.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 11:03 AM (Ffc+8)

289 > Though honestly, ever since Al Gore won a Nobel, it plummeted in cachet for me.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 10:55 AM (gWBY1)

Eh... the Peace Prize has always been shite. Yasser Arafat, I'm looking in your direction. Norman Borlaug was the last winner I can think of who was actually worthy.

Likewise the Literature Prize (although they had a rarer outbreak of common sense when they gave one to Dylan).

We won't even get into the fake "Nobel Prize" for Economics.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 17, 2025 11:04 AM (qpyNK)

290 Trump just looked tired when he returned from the G7 and msm is making up their terrible theories & lies.

The other day, went to art class (I'm still beyond help) where I met a very nice woman who was stylish, obviously well educated, gifted artistically. She told me she had immigrated to the US many years ago and became a naturalized citizen. It took many, many years.

She really loves this country - her country - and does not agree with 'open borders,' the current political protests against Trump and administration, the outrageous debt the nation now finds itself in, and so on. Lastly, her community is like minded.

I believe nothing on/from msm.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 11:07 AM (NFX2v)

291 [pos]Jennifer Griffin@[pos]JenGriffinFNC
1h
Trump disputes his own ODNI Tulsi Gabbard testimony to Congress on whether Iran was making moves toward a nuclear weapon. “I don’t care what she said,” Trump told reporters on Air Force One
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pos Griffin fails to mention that Gabbard said this in March.
more FAUX News

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 11:09 AM (Ffc+8)

292 Don't let the leper in the window inside!

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 17, 2025 09:35 AM (w9Wax)

I wondered what that thing was.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 17, 2025 11:24 AM (w6EFb)

293
Slug-a-bed, slug-a-bed,
Barley butt
What makes you comes
so soon?
You used to come at 10 o'clock
And now you come at noon.

Mother Goose
Nursery Rhymes

Posted by: zigzag at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (16g6d)

294 David Hogg gets flunked four D's a F and a H

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 17, 2025 06:39 PM (wGqjj)

The Morning Report — 6/ 17 /25

Good morning kids. Well, the beat goes on with wars, and rumors of wars. Both abroad and even here at home as Israel continues its campaign to degrade if not completely destroy Iran's nuclear weapons infrastructure and as is now apparent, take down the regime itself.

Incredibly and miraculously, The Israeli air force and special forces have evidently been so successful that the regime supposedly is now crying uncle and is ready to negotiate some sort of settlement in order to stop Israel from taking them down. They want to reman in power both for the sake of remaining in power and staying away from the blast radius of an Israeli bomb or from dangling by the neck from a lamppost courtesy of a long abused and oppressed citizenry. And lest we forget, that Iran is ruled by hardcore Muslims whose goal is the eradication of every Jew and un believer on the planet and the latter's complete transformation as planet Islam. So as history has shown us time and again, and as the Arabic word and concept Taqqiya tells us, they are not to be taken at their word. They will do whatever they can in order to regroup for the next assault on Dar al Harb to bring it by force into Dar al Islam.

Whether Trump sees this or not, he has signaled that the G-7 proposal to allow monitoring of Iran's nuclear program instead of calling for its dismantling is a total non-starter, as it should be.

President Trump has stated unequivocally that Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons so that raises the question and red flag of how he intends to prevent that from happening. He is of course right but as I, being an ardent supporter of Israel and America, feel strongly that our direct involvement of troops on the ground and/or the deployment of the Air Force would be a disaster.

While Israel has done an amazingly effective job, so far as we can tell, places like the Fordow facility are deep underground beneath a mountain, and the only way to take those out is with heavy ordnance delivered by heavy bombers or missiles capable of delivering a payload that can collapse steel reinforced concrete and stone maybe a half-mile thick. Well, that or deploying tens of thousands of troops to storm the facilities with a direct frontal assault.

Trump has in fact directly warned the people of Tehran to evacuate the city. Is something afoot or is this just him throwing a giant tootsie roll into the swimming pool.

President Donald Trump took to Truth Social on Monday to declare that Iran “cannot have a nuclear weapon” and that people should evacuate Tehran. . . “Reports of Iran’s eagerness to end the fight came as Israeli fighters attacked regime institutions in the capital city of Tehran, including the state broadcaster, after achieving total dominance of Iranian airspace,” it added.

On that note, for those Iranians who were glued to their sets . . .

Israel hit an Iranian regime-controlled television network on Monday, another example of the Jewish state's broadening of its campaign against the Islamic Republic
Israeli warplanes struck Iran’s state-controlled broadcaster on Monday, causing an explosion that scattered debris live on television and forced an anchor to hurriedly flee offscreen.

If only a bomb drifted off course by a measly 10,000 miles or so and hit MSNBC as Banjo Boy Scarborough and his concubine Mitzi Baryshnikov were doing their daily polishing of Al Sharpton's sewer lid medallion. Oh well, just a thought.

Elsewhere, if anyone wants to understand why Israel is doing what it's doing. . .

Jihadi gunmen murdered at least a hundred Christians in the Nigerian village of Yelewata, central Nigeria, on Friday night, the latest in a long string of bloody attacks on farmers by the violent Fulani herdsmen. . . “Many people are still missing, aside dozens injured and left without adequate medical care. Many families were locked up and burnt inside their bedrooms. So many bodies were burnt beyond recognition,” AI Nigeria wrote.

It's not necessarily about Iran and nuclear weapons. or about Israel and Jews. It's about Islam and what it has wrought all over the world for the past 1500 years or so. To think you can negotiate with that, or that they want the same things we do; peace, security and a future for their children. Remember that these are the same people who have children for the express purpose of turning them into guided bombs, draped in C-4/Semtex laden belts and vests ready to detonate themselves on buses, inside pizzerias and fly airplanes into skyscrapers, as their ticket to paradise.

Meanwhile, in the good old USA . . .

60 years after the two Columbia professors outlined their plan to turn America into Cuba or the Soviet Union? They published their manifesto in the leftist publication, The Nation, in 1966, which I will summarize.
Cloward-Piven’s objective is chaos and turmoil, or in their words, “A massive drive to recruit the poor onto the welfare rolls.” This is followed by: “A federal program of income redistribution has become necessary to elevate the poor en masse from poverty.”
Is there a better recap of COVID, including lockdowns, closed businesses, schools, and churches, which required the ruling class to spend trillions of dollars they didn’t have to rectify the damage and destruction unleashed by the same ruling class that then tried to correct it?
In Cloward-Piven terms, a crisis is: “A publicly visible disruption in some institutional sphere.” How do they create such a crisis? “Crisis can occur spontaneously (e.g., riots) or as the intended result of tactics of demonstration and protest which either generate institutional disruption or bring unrecognized disruption to public attention.”
Last week, Los Angeles became the epicenter of the Summer of Cloward-Piven. Protests escalated into riots, causing property damage and assaults on law enforcement. These events were hardly spontaneous. Pallets of bricks arrived at strategic locations. Posters had been printed and were ready for use. Shock troops were mobilized, often through help wanted ads on Craigslist, generously paying “peaceful protesters” to burn cars and smash windows.

And lastly, a quick shout-out and thank you for your continued support in hitting our tip jar. It truly is appreciated more than you can know.

Have a great day.

ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY

It remains to be seen what will happen in this case. Local media naturally ignored the fact that the woman was part of a mob attacking the vehicle. In Florida, the driver would be protected by law for engaging in self-defense. “If you’re driving on one of those streets and a mob comes and surrounds your vehicle and threatens you, you have a right to flee for your safety,” Florida Gov. DeSantis said last week during an interview. “So if you drive off and you hit one of these people, that’s their fault for impinging on you.”
Los Angeles Rioters Attack Car, Driver Runs Them Over
(What could possibly go WONG-jjs) The research was conducted at the Center for Excellence in Brain Science and Intelligence (CEBSIT) within the Chinese Academy of Sciences. This group answers directly to and is controlled by the Communist Party-run State Council of China.
CCP-Run Lab Launches First Neural Device to Control Computers With Your Brain.

"NEWSOM/DEMOCRAT VIOLENT INSURRECTION RIOTS"

Daniel Greenfield: Newsom is a 2028 front-runner. All he had to do was set parts of L.A. on fire.
Newsom’s Riots
In case you missed it: Trump’s ability to deploy the California National Guard is currently working its way through the courts. U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer ruled that Trump’s order to deploy the Guard was illegal, claiming it exceeded Trump’s statutory authority. Breyer ordered the command of the Guard to return control to California, but his order did not extend to the U.S. Marines because they were not out on the streets yet.
Trump’s Warning To California Officials Should Terrify Violent Rioters
The migrant riots were about causing chaos, not about advocating for illegal aliens.
The Summer of Cloward-Piven
While rioters in L.A. injure police officers, throw rocks, burn squad cars, and loot businesses, the left-wing media continue to assure the American people that this is “not a ‘real riot.’” They say foreign nationals flying their flag in American streets are just proud of their heritage. If the polls are any indication, the American people are not listening.
NBC Poll: Majority Of Voters Support Trump On Immigration, More Than Before LA Riots
What Edward Banfield’s work tells us about another summer of disorder and violence
Rioting Mainly for Fun and Profit
ISRAEL vs IRAN & GAZA/HAMAS . . . AND BIDEN
Reports of Iran’s eagerness to end the fight came as Israeli fighters attacked regime institutions in the capital city of Tehran, including the state broadcaster, after achieving total dominance of Iranian airspace.
Iran Cries Uncle: Wants to End Israeli Attacks, Negotiate with Trump
. . . the president also rejected “the G7’s proposed statement on Iran because it called for monitoring of Iran’s nuclear activities, rather than an outright halt to Iran’s program of nuclear enrichment”: The Trump administration has been demanding that Iran halt all uranium enrichment, since enrichment past a certain level has no purpose other than developing the unique isotope necessary for nuclear weapons. Iran has refused to agree, leading to the impasse in nuclear talks — and leading Israel to attack Iran last Friday rather than face the prospect of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon.
Trump: ‘Everyone Should Immediately Evacuate Tehran’
Israeli warplanes struck Iran’s state-controlled broadcaster on Monday, causing an explosion that scattered debris live on television and forced an anchor to hurriedly flee offscreen. (NOW do Joe Scarborough and his Concubine Mitzi Baryshnikov as they rap with Sharpton! - jjs)
WATCH: Iran’s State-Run TV Station Goes Up in Smoke
Netanyahu shot down the peace talks amid reports that Iran was interested in renewing negotiations as the Israeli Air Force continues its devastating bombardment of Tehran’s nuclear sites, military targets and key leadership figures. Iran reportedly said it would only come to the table if the U.S. did not get involved in the war offensively, sources told the WSJ Monday.
Israel Not Interested In Peace Talks With Iran, Netanyahu Says
The decision comes as hostilities escalate between Israel and Iran, with Israeli strikes on Iranian targets and Iranian counterstrikes. Trump told the media on Sunday, June 15, that while the U.S. is not currently involved militarily, he has not ruled out intervention. “We’re not involved in it. It’s possible we could get involved,” Trump said.
Trump Declines to Sign G7 Statement on Israel-Iran Deescalation, Weighs U.S. Intervention.
Dem senator also tells Free Beacon he'd like the US to 'join Israel to fully destroy Iran's nuclear facilities' (Love ya Lumpy, but even I think we ought not get involved directly in this - jjs)
Fetterman Urges Israel To Take Out the Ayatollah: 'No Mercy'
As war drums beat louder, a majority of Americans still want what made the nation great—peace, industry, and sovereignty—despite globalist efforts to silence that vision.
The United States, Israel, and Iran
But so few are grateful.
Israel’s Attack on Iran Saves the Day
Is Israel the new Jan Sobieski, saving civilization from the barbarians?
Israel Saves Civilization
So tired of the isolationists barking about the old and failed foreign policy of the past and insisting that they’ve uncovered the secret, new way forward: isolationism. (Old Yeller makes some good points, but there is a difference between isolationism and sending in the Army all over the place - jjs)
Mark Levin Op-Ed: Isolationism is the same as appeasement – and it’s keeping Trump, Netanyahu from transforming the Middle East
Robert Spencer: Israel is right to see Iran as an existential threat.
‘Israel Will Go, It Must Not Survive, and It Will Not’

* * * * *
Footage over the weekend showed activists wearing keffiyehs — the checkered calling-card of the pro-Palestinian cause — clashing with fed-up Egyptian locals, some of whom could be seen hurling clubs and water bottles at the hapless protesters. Frustrated Egyptians, some little more than children, could be seen pulling the activists off the road as they staged a sit-down at the checkpoint.
March for Gaza descends into farce as fed-up Egyptians clash with woke mob of activists
"BIDEN/HARRIS BORDER BLOODBATH," AMNESTY, IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY
But he doesn’t walk free after all.
Mahmoud Khalil Paid the Dollar Bond

CIVIL WAR 2.0: J-6 FBI FALSE FLAG "RIOT" & AFTERMATH, LEFTIST PERSECUTIONS, DEMOCRAT PUTSCH, AMERICAN DISSOLUTION
. . .in the second of the failed shooting attempts, an actual local law enforcement official now believes they encountered Boelter sitting outside the lawmaker’s residence in an SUV. The officer says they approached the vehicle and a man in a police uniform sitting inside, and assumed the individual was dispatched to provide a protective detail. However, when the officer tried to verbally address the individual, the man in the SUV continued staring straight ahead. After the initial encounter, the law enforcement officer says they proceeded to check on the home, knocking on the front door and receiving no response. Upon confirming that the house was unoccupied, the officer realized the SUV and the man—now believed to be Boelter—had departed.
Walz-Linked Shooter Targeted 2 Other Homes. Here’s What We Know.
"It is not an exaggeration to say that his crimes are the stuff of nightmares."
Suspected Minnesota Assassin Went To Homes Of Two Other Elected Officials: Prosecutor
Blue politicians never fail to use the acts of violent radicals, whose roots are assigned by the corporate media to the right, to grandstand about the evils of Republicans. (They don't just use them, they encourage, back, coordinate and fund the violence directly! - jjs)
Dems Lecture About ‘Political Violence’ After Years Of Leftist Threats, Attacks, And Assassination Attempts
"Political violence is not okay — the Left should stop encouraging it."
‘Sick’: Democrat Under Fire Over Beheaded Trump Photo
A boots-on-the-ground recon mission in the belly of the beast.
‘No Kings’ Peaceful Protests Belie a Thirst for Vengeance
This alarm isn't just coming from the political left. It's emerging from inside the MAGA base itself, where many now see the Palantir partnership as a betrayal of Trump's earlier promises to dismantle the so-called "deep state."
Federal data consolidation poses a risk to all Americans
Twisted momzer Raskin said, “There’s the $400 million bribe force, one jet from Qatar, completely brazen, totally in violation of the Constitution if you don’t come to Congress first. There’s also the fact that Donald Trump, who denounced crypto as just saturated with criminality, now has completely embraced it and created his own crypto meme coin, which is just this gaping open barn door for every anonymous foreign state dictator, king, prince, mafia ring or pardon seeker to put money directly into Donald Trump’s pockets. And so, you know, whatever kind of varnish they had from the first administration is completely off.” (Fuck cancer, but in this case, I feel bad for the cancer that has to endure being in his rotting carcass - jjs)
Raskin: We’re Living in a ‘Gangster State,’ a ‘Corrupt, Monarchical’ System
The company allegedly required managers to reward employees “on the basis of their skin color alone and contrary to documented performance.”
Whistleblower: Lockheed Martin Awarded Bonuses Based on Race

DOMESTIC AFFAIRS, THE COURTS, WASTE/FRAUD/ABUSE
Over and over again, the court seems fit to allow injustice to persist when it comes to halting the policies of President Trump.
SCOTUS Must Rein In Rogue Judges Threatening To Enable Violent Rioters
A thousand miles away from Silicon Valley, Montana lawmakers have striven to strike a balance between protecting residents from the risks of emerging technologies and encouraging tech innovators.
Montana: The American Frontier of Tech Policy
Meanwhile, State Farm is being sued by wildfire victims and a new report links Mayor Karen Bass to Chinese Intel.
Final Evacuation Order Finally Lifted Almost 6 Months after Palisades Wildfire Disaster
OFFICIAL DEMOCRAT PARTY/LEFTIST-ENDORSED ANTI-SEMITISM, ANTI-CHRISTIANITY
The Little Sisters of the Poor, a Catholic organization that serves the elderly, fought the state on its abortion mandate that violates religious liberties for years, but multiple New York courts have ruled in favor of the abortion mandate.
SCOTUS Sides With Nuns Fighting New York Mandate That Made Them Pay For Abortions

WE-ALL-SLAM-FOR-I-SLAM
Daniel Greenfield: Two kinds of grooming.
UK Sex Grooming Report Warns Converting to Islam May Be Sign of Sex Abuse
“Many people are still missing, aside dozens injured and left without adequate medical care. Many families were locked up and burnt inside their bedrooms. So many bodies were burnt beyond recognition,” AI Nigeria wrote. (This is why Iran must not have nukes, and why Islam must ultimately be eradicated from the face of the earth - jjs)
Jihadi Gunmen Slaughter over 100 Christians in Nigeria
FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, CENSORSHIP, FAKE NEWS, MEDIA, BIG BROTHER TECH
As part of the elaborate scheme, Walter Barnes, owner of Vistant, and Darryl Britt, owner of Apprio, used Paul Young, the president of a subcontractor used by both Vistant and Apprio, as a middleman to conceal some of the bribes destined for Watson, according to the Justice Department.” But you won’t find coverage of it on the dinosaur television networks. A phenomenon that MRCTV and others noticed.
Leftist Media Weep Over Potential USAID Cuts - Avoid Covering Bribery Case of USAID Official

CRIME & PUNISHMENT, NON-DOSTOYEVSKY
2A and crime expert John Lott: When you let law enforcement catch criminals, you will get less crime.
As Deportations Rise, The U.S. Is On Track For The Lowest Murder Rate On Record
Human Excrement Scott Weiner - “We’re seeing the rise of secret police — masked, no identifying info, even wearing army fatigues — grabbing & disappearing people. It’s antithetical to democracy & harms communities. The No Secret Police Act can help end the fear & chaos this behavior creates in communities,” he added.
California State Senator Proposes Ban on Law Enforcement Wearing Masks: ‘No Secret Police’

AMERICA AND THE WORLD IMPRISONED: CHINESE+Fauci-created CORONAVIRUS FICTIONS AND FACTS
Meanwhile, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) under Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has defended the CDC’s changes, emphasizing the importance of medical autonomy and informed consent. “Americans deserve to make health decisions based on their individual circumstances—not under pressure from politicized institutions or rigid, one-size-fits-all mandates,” an HHS spokesman said.
Democrat States Defy RFK, Continue Pushing Covid Vax on Children, Pregnant Women.
THE 2020 and SUBSEQUENT ELECTION HEISTS , SHENANIGANS/FRAUD and AFTERMATH
This wasn’t just foreign meddling—it was industrial-scale fraud, enabled by a broken mail-in voting system the Democrats have long been exploiting. The report confirms what many of us suspected all along: the integrity of the 2020 election wasn’t just compromised—it was hijacked.
Kash Patel Drops 2020 Election Interference Evidence Bombshell
DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST AND RINO SCANDALS, MESHUGAS, CHUTZPOCRISY
“Thirteen years ago, my administration acted to protect young people who were American in every single way but one: on paper.”
Despite ‘No Kings Day’ Protests, (Closet Queen) Obama Boasts That He Ruled by Edict, Defied Law and Congress
It’s a scandal of huge proportions, with the media covering it up and rogue political actors both inside and outside of the White House hiding Biden’s mental problems and, possibly, even making decisions for a president mentally unfit for duty.
Will Biden’s Age-Related Mental Issues Ever Be Investigated? Americans Hope So: I&I/TIPP Poll
POLITICS
The Rogers campaign announced a statewide leadership team of more than 100 campaign co-chairs in counties across the state Monday, the Daily Caller News Foundation has learned. The appointment of campaign ambassadors in regions across Michigan comes as the former congressman is working to fend off a potential primary challenge and is already making a general election play by mobilizing support across the state.
EXCLUSIVE: Mike Rogers Moves To Consolidate Support As Potential Opponent Mulls Primary Challenge
Among those dissatisfied with Hogg’s departure and Martin’s leadership are Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, and Lee Saunders, president of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees.
DNC Chair Thought David Hogg’s Departure Would End His Woes, But Another Shoe Just Dropped
FOREIGN AFFAIRS, INTERNATIONAL
The summit formally began on Sunday, though the major meetings and discussion are expected to begin on Monday, and is expected to run through Tuesday. The G7 is an organization bringing together seven of the world’s largest economies – America, Britain, Japan, France, Germany, Italy, and host Canada – to primarily discuss trade and diplomacy.
G7 Summit in Canada Begins in Shadow of Iran, Ukraine Wars
“This now implements on car tariffs and aerospace, a really important agreement, and so, this is a very good day for both of our countries,” said Starmer, adding, “Thank you again, Donald.”Trump, who is half-British through his late mother, was similarly positive, calling the British “great people.”
Trump, Starmer Sign UK-US Trade Deal at G7.
Meanwhile, Ford struggles with supply of rare earth magnets as geologists question if there are truly significant mineral deposits under the Arctic island.
Trump Administration Plans to Finance $120 Million Rare Earths Mining Project in Greenland
DEFENSE, MILITARY, SECURITY AFFAIRS
Trump’s DOD flushed $10M in cat torture tests after a WCW-led campaign exposed the Pentagon’s taxpayer-funded pet abuse.
Trump’s DOD Draws Down Deadly Dog and Cat Labs
HEALTH AND HEALTH CARE
This is how politics works.
NAOMI WOLF: MAHA leadership is risking a derailment; it risks losing President Trump and the Republicans the midterms
President Trump shouldn’t adopt socialist-style price controls.
The White House Can Lower Drug Prices By Fixing The Market, Not Price Controls
ACTUAL SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY
This launch site, marked as Adak on the map to the right, has a great deal of spaceport potential, even if Spinlaunch doesn’t end up building a spinner there for launching payloads.
Spinlaunch signs deal to build its spin launch facility on island in Alaska
Ted Cruz, a typical “tax-and-spend” Republican
Cruz’s pork/budget bill also adds new taxes to rocket launches
More snow, lower temperatures, four black sarcophagi, and strange radio signals.
What Exactly is Going on in Antarctica?

CULTURE WARS, NATIONAL SUICIDE
As companies abandon Pride Month sponsorships and federal DEI programs get bulldozed under President Trump’s return, the era of performative corporate virtue-signaling is collapsing in real time.
Juneteenth Celebrations Cut as DEI Funding Collapses
In other words, if you don’t portray a trans character exactly the way GLAAD wants, you’re doing it wrong.
GLAAD Is Sad: Report Claims Hollywood Decline in LGBTQ Representation
Christian Toto: 'Club Random' host Bill Maher mocks Oscar winner for bizarre interview stance
Sean Penn: I’d Meet with Castro, Chavez … But Not Trump
HITHER & YON
Mel Brooks' 1987 'Star Wars' satire gets a very, very belated sequel
The ONE Way ‘Spaceballs 2’ Can Crush Expectations

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1 Happy Tuesday

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 07:12 AM (gbOdA)

2
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 17, 2025 07:14 AM (tljrc)

3 Happy Tuesday, everyone!

Oh right...there are articles to look at.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 07:15 AM (BpO1e)

4
Didn't wake up to bombing this morning with my Cheerios, but..

Oil tankers Front Eagle and Abalon on fire in the Gulf of Oman this morning, indeterminate causes.

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 07:15 AM (j4U/Z)

5 How embarrassing when your 15 minutes/ 200,000 views of fame is from being dumb enough to get run over by a car.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:17 AM (DLqye)

6 Patiently waiting for Gog and Magog.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 17, 2025 07:19 AM (7NkZG)

7 Good morning horde!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:19 AM (ExV1e)

8 Thanks, JJ!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 07:20 AM (/Ghsb)

9 Local media naturally ignored the fact that the woman was part of a mob attacking the vehicle.

I'm old enough to have watched Reginald Denny get beaten on TV. I will not allow myself or my wife to get hurt by these "people."

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 07:21 AM (BpO1e)

10
Willowed:

I’m convinced most of these ‘regular’ people with severe TDS are basically news junkies who can’t turn off CNN or MSNBC and still believe everything shovel of shit they’re getting from the talking heads on their TV.

If, from whatever side of the spectrum you're on, if politics is affecting your relationships with other people, don't discuss politics with them and politely them from discussing politics with you.

And turn the TV, phone or computer off. I've become a believer in subsidiarity. Try to make your own little corner of life peaceful and productive because, really, that's all you can reasonably be expected to affect.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:22 AM (QnmlO)

11
Oil tankers Front Eagle and Abalon on fire in the Gulf of Oman this morning, indeterminate causes.
Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 07:15 AM (j4U/Z)

Guess someone forgot the smoking lamp is out.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:23 AM (QnmlO)

12 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:23 AM (u82oZ)

13 I see New York City got rid of that gawd-awful statue in Times Square. Finally. But then no telling what they may replace it with.

Posted by: Case at June 17, 2025 07:24 AM (BXeMA)

14 Seems like the Fordow facility could be destroyed by cutting off the entrances and exits, severing the electrical and water supply, and destroying the air exchange system. After that, the uranium hexaflouride in the centrifuges will finish the job.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at June 17, 2025 07:24 AM (luW68)

15 >>>the only way to take those out is with heavy ordnance delivered by heavy bombers

GBU-57s, but IAF doesn't have an aircraft in its inventory capable of delivery.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 17, 2025 07:24 AM (Y1sOo)

16 6 Patiently waiting for Gog and Magog.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 17, 2025 07:19 AM (7NkZG)

Pfft! Morg + Imorg > Gog Magog

"Spock's Brain

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 07:24 AM (x0n13)

17 More snow, lower temperatures, four black sarcophagi, and strange radio signals.
What Exactly is Going on in Antarctica?
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"Who Goes There?" - John W. Campbell

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 07:25 AM (7fElN)

18 "but there is a difference between isolationism and sending in the Army all over the place."

I believe Trump is in the process of threading that needle. He has a goal for long-range peace and is pursuing it. Tucker and his cohort do not seem to understand, or are blinded by their loathing of Israel.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 17, 2025 07:25 AM (x2CMu)

19 Military mavens, do you see a pattern here?

https://tinyurl.com/2s48nrk5

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 07:25 AM (n+rGF)

20 I also saw a video of a man berating one of the Marines standing guard and saying things like "You're disrespecting a union worker!" and "What kind of skills do you think you'll get from the Marine Corps?"

Yeah...a guy who went through three months of Boot Camp, fourteen weeks of Infantry training is being forced to give up his weekend and stand guard because you and your kind can't act civilized. Please provoke him some more.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 07:26 AM (BpO1e)

21 Hadrian the Seventh

If there is Iranian tampering with GPS, thereby affecting widely used navigational and ship-keeping tools, a poorly adapting bridge crew can easily collide with another vessel. That area is full of maritime traffic.

Still Iranian's fault, but not directly.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:28 AM (u82oZ)

22 Oil tankers Front Eagle and Abalon on fire in the Gulf of Oman this morning, indeterminate causes.

Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 07:15 AM (j4U/Z)
-

Was on a supposed intel account on X and they believe it was a collision.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 07:28 AM (n+rGF)

23 Little Sisters of the Poor WIN at the Supreme Court.

ROMAN CATHOLIC DIOCESE, ET AL. V. HARRIS, ADRIENNE A., ET AL.

The petition for a writ of certiorari is granted. The judgment is vacated, and the case is remanded to the Court of Appeals of New York for further consideration in light of Catholic Charities Bureau, Inc. v. Wisconsin Labor & Industry.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 07:29 AM (lHAAk)

24 Good morning good people. Thank you J.J.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 07:29 AM (cYBz/)

25 21 Hadrian the Seventh

If there is Iranian tampering with GPS, thereby affecting widely used navigational and ship-keeping tools, a poorly adapting bridge crew can easily collide with another vessel. That area is full of maritime traffic.

Still Iranian's fault, but not directly.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:28 AM (u82oZ)

Look what DEI did to the Key Bridge!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 07:29 AM (x0n13)

26 Ted Cruz, a typical “tax-and-spend” Republican

Cruz voted to award medals of bravery to the capitol police scum who murdered Ashli Babbitt and Roseann Boyland. He's a worthless grifter, fraud and traitor who will knife you in the back without a second's thought.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 07:29 AM (Dg2sF)

27 Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

This is a large signal flare of military importance.

Me wonders what Intel started this rolling?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:30 AM (u82oZ)

28 J.J. Sefton

Thank you for this compilation. Highly useful.
And Happy Birthday.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:31 AM (u82oZ)

29 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 07:31 AM (Q4IgG)

30 I keep reading that Zoroastrianism is on the rise in Islamic Iran. Islam is badly in decline with mosques being closed every week for lack of observance.

Anybody know what Zoroastrianism is?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 17, 2025 07:32 AM (tQWzq)

31 MP4, even with all that, Cruz is still better than Cornyn

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:32 AM (DLqye)

32 Old Yeller makes some good points, but there is a difference between isolationism and sending in the Army all over the place

It's not the 19th Century. We cannot be totally isolated. We should, however, be discriminating in our foreign entanglements, parsimonious in our foreign funding, and restrained in our comments about foreign relations not directly impacting the US.

Israel is worth supporting, generally, and against Iran, specifically, although we should never shy away from critically examining what Israel does, as a nation, and how it impacts us. If Mark Levin wants a Y2K robust American military policy then I recommend he enlist.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:33 AM (ExV1e)

33 Mel Brooks' 1987 'Star Wars' satire gets a very, very belated sequel

The original wasn't even funny. Oh, sure, if you like 90 minutes of non-stop scatology and lame jokes, it's funny, but I'd like a little more from the man who created Blazing Saddles and The Twelve Chairs.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 07:33 AM (Dg2sF)

34 14 Seems like the Fordow facility could be destroyed by cutting off the entrances and exits, severing the electrical and water supply, and destroying the air exchange system. After that, the uranium hexaflouride in the centrifuges will finish the job.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at June 17, 2025 07:24 AM (luW6

There was a report yesterday that there had been an explosion at Fordow which was big enough to cause a 2.5 earthquake nearby.

It sounds like somehow they got something there that made a really big bang.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 07:34 AM (hOOi9)

35 In the original Spaceballs the actual title for the planned sequel was Spaceballs 2 The Quest for More Money.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:34 AM (u82oZ)

36 > Military mavens, do you see a pattern here?
---------
Look for similar groups of C-17's. They typically move the weaponry needed for sustained bombing efforts.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 07:35 AM (Q4IgG)

37 ‘Massive Ordnance Penetrator’

[giggles]

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 07:35 AM (5cl3b)

38 Little Sisters of the Poor WIN at the Supreme Court.

ROMAN CATHOLIC DIOCESE, ET AL. V. HARRIS, ADRIENNE A., ET AL.

Posted by: Washington Nearside

Is this the case whereby the State of New Yawk ordered the Little Sisters of the Poor to cover abortion within their health plans>

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 07:35 AM (cYBz/)

39 When does Iran become more trouble for China than it's worth, to prop them up as an agent provocateur against the West?

Posted by: XTC at June 17, 2025 07:36 AM (6Uni8)

40 Elric the Bladiest Blade

You forgot to say "I got it in my pants."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:36 AM (u82oZ)

41 "Oh, sure, if you like 90 minutes of non-stop scatology and lame jokes, it's funny"

It's all about the merchandising!

Posted by: fd at June 17, 2025 07:36 AM (vFG9F)

42 30 I keep reading that Zoroastrianism is on the rise in Islamic Iran. Islam is badly in decline with mosques being closed every week for lack of observance.

Anybody know what Zoroastrianism is?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 17, 2025 07:32 AM (tQWzq)

The only detail is when you die, they leave your body out so the birds can eat your corpse.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 07:36 AM (x0n13)

43 ‘Massive Ordnance Penetrator’

[giggles]
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

The Paolo, how you say, well. . . . you know.

Posted by: The Paolo at June 17, 2025 07:36 AM (cYBz/)

44 Wow, talk about being for the birds...

Posted by: fd at June 17, 2025 07:37 AM (vFG9F)

45 XTC

China is getting close to that point. XI seems to be in political trouble at home.

Plus, with Belt and Road, there is considerable "Imperial Overstretch" going on.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:37 AM (u82oZ)

46 I read that the killer of the Minnesota people is a Wisconsin people. Reportedly from Sheboygan.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at June 17, 2025 07:37 AM (SfhV1)

47 California State Senator Proposes Ban on Law Enforcement Wearing Masks: ‘No Secret Police’

How about regulators posting their identity?
How about abortionists posting their identity?
How about political financiers posting their identity?
How about propagandists posting their identity?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:38 AM (ExV1e)

48

Sheboygan will be changed to Hegirlgan . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 07:39 AM (x0n13)

49 Kash Patel Drops 2020 Election Interference Evidence Bombshell

Impossible! The DOJ has done nothing under Trump!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:39 AM (ExV1e)

50 I used to have a different nic

Open release would be better. Giving it to Congress is not helpful.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:41 AM (u82oZ)

51 Among those dissatisfied with Hogg’s departure and Martin’s leadership are Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, and Lee Saunders, president of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees.

How convenient that union presidents are members of the DNC.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:41 AM (ExV1e)

52 Sheboygan will be changed to Hegirlgan . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 07:39 AM (x0n13)

Took me a minute, but I got there.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at June 17, 2025 07:41 AM (SfhV1)

53
More snow, lower temperatures, four black sarcophagi, and strange radio signals.
What Exactly is Going on in Antarctica?

I made a documentary about this 40+ years ago

Posted by: John Carpenter at June 17, 2025 07:41 AM (tljrc)

54 In the original Spaceballs the actual title for the planned sequel was Spaceballs 2 The Quest for More Money.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:34 AM (u82o
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Perfect description of whats happening here

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 07:42 AM (8S0LS)

55 Is this the case whereby the State of New Yawk ordered the Little Sisters of the Poor to cover abortion within their health plans>

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 07:35 AM (cYBz/)

It is.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 07:43 AM (lHAAk)

56 Anybody know what Zoroastrianism is?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 17, 2025 07:32 AM (tQWzq)

That fag Freddie Mercury was a Zoroastrianism. One of those weirdo religions but harmless by the look of things.

Posted by: Pray The Gay Away! at June 17, 2025 07:43 AM (lbkx/)

57 I keep reading that Zoroastrianism is on the rise in Islamic Iran. Islam is badly in decline with mosques being closed every week for lack of observance.

Anybody know what Zoroastrianism is?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 17, 2025 07:32 AM (tQWzq)
———

Persia’s original major religion. It’s one of the oldest religions with one god, possibly older than Judaism. I don’t know how it works in practice, but it can’t be any worse than Islam. Can it?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 07:43 AM (5cl3b)

58 This Vance kill man (I don't care what his last name is) story is very bizarre. First, police said there was a manifesto, then yesterday came reports there wasn't, now there's a manifesto again. My radar is telling me there is one, and it's being hidden. I also read that this Hoffman man who was shot with his wife wasn't even on the hit list this murderer had. It's all so strange.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 07:43 AM (qBdHI)

59 MP4, even with all that, Cruz is still better than Cornyn

Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 07:32 AM (DLqye)
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Does anyone have a link to the story of Cruz awarding Capitol Police for J6?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 07:44 AM (n+rGF)

60 {{{grammie winger}}}

Is the Rev doing better? I mean, not chasing you around the house, which certainly is one sign of better. And I hope you are getting some peace and quiet.

Tell him to have a head on a swivel as he guards the front line of American commerce.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:44 AM (u82oZ)

61 The White House Can Lower Drug Prices By Fixing The Market, Not Price Controls

While the article is correct that something needs to be done about PBMs, a move I believe the Administration is taking, it's wrong about forcing foreign countries to pay their share.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:45 AM (ExV1e)

62 Kash Patel Drops 2020 Election Interference Evidence Bombshell

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Not one, single MFM network will report this.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 07:46 AM (qBdHI)

63
Is this the case whereby the State of New Yawk ordered the Little Sisters of the Poor to cover abortion within their health plans>

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 07:35 AM (cYBz/)

It is.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 07:43 AM (lHAAk)

Part and parcel of the Democrats' Four Nos of Abortion:

- No restrictions
- No exemptions
- No alternatives
- No opposition

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:46 AM (QnmlO)

64 CCP-Run Lab Launches First Neural Device to Control Computers With Your Brain.

We already control computers with our brains. This is yet another device interface to add to the cameras, proximity sensors, mikes, keyboards and pointing devices already in place.

Almost all computer operations are now automated where typing commands into a keyboard or selecting an icon will trigger a massive automated process to do something or a initiate, guide a workflow.

We are now even getting deeper into predictive engines and its sister technology, suggestion engines where for many people they let the computer influence and guide the user to grant permission to do something already decided.

Why are we worried about a neural interface?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 07:46 AM (a4flb)

65 {{{Lady in Black}}}

This has all the hallmarks of a planned operation from the Deep State, to maintain control of illegals as the new slaves.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:46 AM (u82oZ)

66 Tell him to have a head on a swivel as he guards the front line of American commerce.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:44 AM (u82oZ)

I will! And he is doing eversomuch better. He has some tests coming up, but I see all good things ahead. And yes, he can take on Costco customers with one hand tied behind his back.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at June 17, 2025 07:46 AM (SfhV1)

67 "You're disrespecting a union worker!"
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Wait, a union worker was saying this to ANY member of the military?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 07:47 AM (+vtNx)

68 Good morning!

Posted by: gp Feels So Smoochie at June 17, 2025 07:48 AM (XqSVb)

69 grammie winger

This is excellent news. It sure looked dire there for a while.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:48 AM (u82oZ)

70
I don’t know how it works in practice, but it can’t be any worse than Islam. Can it?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 07:43 AM (5cl3b)

Have you heard of any Zoroastrians or Baha'is shooting, stabbing or setting off car bombs?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:48 AM (QnmlO)

71 Kash Patel Drops 2020 Election Interference Evidence Bombshell

I'm sorry, Alex Jones and almost all of Click-Bait media has decorated the mundane and ordinary with so much hype and superlatives that when I see "Bombshell" it has the same effect on me as the tease: "With this One Trick" or "They don't want you to know".

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 07:49 AM (a4flb)

72 I'm looking forward to seeing Baby Yogurt.

Posted by: fd at June 17, 2025 07:49 AM (vFG9F)

73 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 07:49 AM (PfGa7)

74 to maintain control of illegals as the new slaves.

This is the missing connection when it comes to liberals. Their arguments of "who's gonna change the bedding at hotels" sounds an awful lot like "Who's gonna pick all that cotton?"

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at June 17, 2025 07:50 AM (SfhV1)

75 This has all the hallmarks of a planned operation from the Deep State, to maintain control of illegals as the new slaves.

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Deep State involvement is, sadly, all too possible. I can't help but draw the same conclusion.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 07:50 AM (qBdHI)

76 71 Kash Patel Drops 2020 Election Interference Evidence Bombshell

I'm sorry, Alex Jones and almost all of Click-Bait media has decorated the mundane and ordinary with so much hype and superlatives that when I see "Bombshell" it has the same effect on me as the tease: "With this One Trick" or "They don't want you to know".
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 07:49 AM (a4flb)
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‘Hot singles want you’

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 07:50 AM (5cl3b)

77 More snow, lower temperatures, four black sarcophagi, and strange radio signals.

We found these strange, black sarcophagi.
Cool, pop one open, let see what's inside.
Wow, a cylinder which radiates heat covered by thin lines.
Should we send it to a populated area for study?
No, might be important that it remain here.
Hmmm... good point. Should we take a picture of it?
Nah, we'll just tell people about it. That's enough.

Color me skeptical.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:50 AM (ExV1e)

78 >>>Military mavens, do you see a pattern here?

Trump deployed six B-2s to Diego Garcia weeks ago.

The B-2 is the only USAF aircraft capable of delivering the MOP.

The B-2s would need aerial refueling after delivery for the return trip to DGAR.

Do the math?

Posted by: one hour sober at June 17, 2025 07:50 AM (Y1sOo)

79 It sure looked dire there for a while.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:48 AM (u82oZ)

It did. I nearly lost him. God is good.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at June 17, 2025 07:51 AM (SfhV1)

80 Anybody know what Zoroastrianism is?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 17, 2025 07:32 AM (tQWzq)
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I have a Persian friend who grew up in Iran as a Zorastrian, and she just mutters whenever I ask about it, saying only it is an ancient religion and "not modern at all". Then she changes the subject.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 07:51 AM (YORgq)

81 "Officials who have seen the documents told Just the News the FBI had a relatively new confidential source who provided information in summer 2020 that the Chinese government was manufacturing and exporting fake U.S. driver's licenses as part of a plot to create voter identities for Chinese residents living in the United States so they could vote with fake mail-in ballots."

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And this is reason #4,356 regarding why every illegal, every Chinese student, and every H1B has to be deported, and why we need to finally have a serious discussion about the stupidity of "magic soil" citizenship.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 07:51 AM (+vtNx)

82 Analysis of Israeli campaign against Iran:

https://tinyurl.com/ymx5cv7d

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 07:51 AM (n+rGF)

83 Does anyone have a link to the story of Cruz awarding Capitol Police for J6?

It used to be that a few directed queries into CoPilot or some other LLM interface would quickly yield those results, but like search engines, the filtering is so corrupted now that it will provide some lame answer as to why it can't or won't deliver the request.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 07:52 AM (a4flb)

84
Wait, a union worker was saying this to ANY member of the military?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 07:47 AM (+vtNx)

Not just a union worker but a public-sector union worker!

Say "union worker" and it invariably evokes the IWW and Joe Hill and Harry Bennett busting heads at the Rouge. Whereas it's far more likely to be some civil-service slug in a polite dance with government to see how much more can be extracted from taxpayers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:52 AM (QnmlO)

85 The Daily Mail thinks a bombshell is some celebrity wore mismatched socks.

Posted by: fd at June 17, 2025 07:52 AM (vFG9F)

86 Do the math?

Posted by: one hour sober at June 17, 2025 07:50 AM (Y1sOo)
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/insert batman slaps robin meme here

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 07:52 AM (n+rGF)

87 If, from whatever side of the spectrum you're on, if politics is affecting your relationships with other people, don't discuss politics with them and politely them from discussing politics with you.

Fortunately, my relationships with other people are never affected by politics. My general disdain for idiots does the trick.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:53 AM (ExV1e)

88 Wait, a union worker was saying this to ANY member of the military?

Yes he was. Here's the video:

https://x.com/i/status/1934356061449760838

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 07:53 AM (BpO1e)

89 Say "union worker" and it invariably evokes the IWW and Joe Hill and Harry Bennett busting heads at the Rouge. Whereas it's far more likely to be some civil-service slug in a polite dance with government to see how much more can be extracted from taxpayers.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

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For me "union worker" is someone who watches a co-worker's arm being eaten by a piece of machinery while saying "It's not my job to push that emergency stop button."

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 07:54 AM (+vtNx)

90 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Inogame at June 17, 2025 07:54 AM (53oGX)

91
This Vance kill man (I don't care what his last name is) story is very bizarre.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 07:43 AM

please care about the murderer's last name

the MFM is making every effort to conflate "Vance Boetner" with J.D.Vance

when have you ever heard of a heinous murderer referred to exclusively by his first name?

I guarantee there are low-info types out there that hear "Vance shoots 4, killing 2" and they think our Vice President was the shooter

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 17, 2025 07:54 AM (tljrc)

92 I see New York City got rid of that gawd-awful statue in Times Square. Finally. But then no telling what they may replace it with.
Posted by: Case at June 17, 2025 07:24 AM (BXeMA)

The sassy black lady is gone? Oh no!
What about the little girl who destroyed the economy by stopping the bull on Wall Street?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:55 AM (ExV1e)

93 “ Let all creation rejoice before the Lord, for he comes, he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world in righteousness and the peoples in his faithfulness.”

Pam 96:13

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 07:55 AM (xKusi)

94 Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Your covert ops succeeded because your Intel agencies love Israel rather than taking power themselves. Compare and contrast with the US Intel agencies, with their record of failure.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:56 AM (u82oZ)

95 " If, from whatever side of the spectrum you're on, if politics is affecting your relationships with other people, don't discuss politics with them and politely them from discussing politics with you."

Absolutely no! If you are going to cancel me because of my politics, good riddance, you never a friend to begin with.

Posted by: KwaK! at June 17, 2025 07:56 AM (89Sog)

96 MP4, even with all that, Cruz is still better than Cornyn

Better in the sense that Cruz's contribution to the preservation of western civilization is that he reliably provides sick burnz on his social media accounts.

Cornyn is actual cancer and in between the corruption of funding his patrons and self, he is totally in the tank for WEF and Deep State.

Cornyn hates America, Cruz merely has no love for America.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 07:57 AM (a4flb)

97 “Let me be clear: I condemn political violence in all forms,” von Haefen claimed. “My focus remains on bringing people together and fighting for the values that matter to North Carolinians. Like so many, I was horrified by the violence in Minnesota."
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Woman with 47 IQ thinks she can advocate violence and then play shocked when it turns out political violence is indiscriminant.

What an idiot. Read a history book, beotch.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 07:57 AM (7STKy)

98 Yes he was. Here's the video:

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Thanks. Imagine a "union worker" thinking that was something to be proud of rather than hiding it in shame lest anyone discover his filthy secret.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 07:57 AM (+vtNx)

99
"It's not my job to push that emergency stop button."

In France, they would say, "Je ne pas ma travaille."

In England, people like that are called Jobsworths. "It's more than my job's worth."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:57 AM (QnmlO)

100 Your covert ops succeeded because your Intel agencies love Israel rather than taking power themselves. Compare and contrast with the US Intel agencies, with their record of failure.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 07:56 AM (u82oZ)
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Wrong. 10/7.

Some things have since changed but not enough. Far from it!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 07:58 AM (n+rGF)

101 “ Let all creation rejoice before the Lord, for he comes, he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world in righteousness and the peoples in his faithfulness.”

Pam 96:13

Posted by: Marcus T at June 17, 2025 07:55 AM (xKusi)

I have read that reading some of Psalms in Hebrew is a marvelous experience. Something about them being alliterative. I'd ask Rev but he has forgotten most of his Hebrew.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at June 17, 2025 07:58 AM (SfhV1)

102 "even I think we ought not get involved directly in this"

Yeah, ok, but we still have 241 US service members lying unavenged in their graves that say we should go in there and Break All The Things.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at June 17, 2025 07:58 AM (MkuC5)

103 Cornyn hates America, Cruz merely has no love for America.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 07:57 AM (a4flb)
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I don't know that Cornyn hates America so much as he loves his bank account more than he loves anything else. Very Bush-like.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 07:59 AM (7STKy)

104 Thanks. Imagine a "union worker" thinking that was something to be proud of rather than hiding it in shame lest anyone discover his filthy secret.

I have a feeling that the Marine was quietly hoping to take his boredom out on that individual.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 07:59 AM (BpO1e)

105 the MFM is making every effort to conflate "Vance Boetner" with J.D.Vance
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 17, 2025 07:54 AM (tljrc)

Truly sick people. The first conservative politician or figure who calls them out as the sick people they are (not "biased" or "fake" but deeply sick) will have my gratitude and respect.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 17, 2025 08:00 AM (x2CMu)

106 If, from whatever side of the spectrum you're on, if politics is affecting your relationships with other people, don't discuss politics with them and politely them from discussing politics with you.

My Go-To is to politely say that I don't involve myself in street politics, but will lend my vote to the candidates who promote human flourishing.

The Left is completely convinced that they are the champions of Human Flourishing (mostly because it sounds positive yet they have no earthly clue what it means)

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 08:00 AM (a4flb)

107 Say "union worker" and it invariably evokes the IWW and Joe Hill and Harry Bennett busting heads at the Rouge. Whereas it's far more likely to be some civil-service slug in a polite dance with government to see how much more can be extracted from taxpayers.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:52 AM (QnmlO)

I learned all I ever need to know about unions from watching "Blue Collar" with Richard Pryor, Harvey Keitel. and Yaphet Kotto. I think Yaphet Kotto is a Zoroastrian name.

Posted by: Smokey James at June 17, 2025 08:00 AM (lbkx/)

108 Persia’s original major religion. It’s one of the oldest religions with one god, possibly older than Judaism. I don’t know how it works in practice, but it can’t be any worse than Islam. Can it?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 07:43 AM (5cl3b)

I've never heard of a Zoroastrian terrorist.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:02 AM (ExV1e)

109 NR Pax

Revolutionaries need a sympathetic military to take power. The Left tries infiltration and intimidation rather than cooperation or being sympathetic.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 08:02 AM (u82oZ)

110 I don't know that Cornyn hates America so much as he loves his bank account more than he loves anything else. Very Bush-like.

Cornyn is open borders and endless debt in between his support of the MIC messing up the lives of hundreds of millions of people.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 08:02 AM (a4flb)

111 Wow. West Coast states are still recommending the Vax for pregnant women and children.

Last I heard, the vax was practically a practical alternative to abortion, considering its super high rate of causing miscarriages. And kids are in no danger of COVID, but there are plenty of risks with the vax. These people are just evil, and should be put on trial for crimes against humanity.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 08:03 AM (hOOi9)

112 How convenient that union presidents are members of the DNC.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 07:41 AM (ExV1e)
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"Own" the DNC, or used to anyway. Interesting developments going on.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 08:03 AM (zsf2n)

113 Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Say it loud and proud. We were ill-served by Intelligence on 10/7. The ironic thing was death was concentrated in peace-loving, co-opted liberals.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 08:03 AM (u82oZ)

114 Anybody know what Zoroastrianism is?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 17, 2025 07:32 AM (tQWzq)
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Persia’s original major religion. It’s one of the oldest religions with one god, possibly older than Judaism. I don’t know how it works in practice, but it can’t be any worse than Islam. Can it?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

Speculation is that the three wise men from the East that followed the star over Jerusalem to meet the new King in a stable were Zoroastrians.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 08:04 AM (Dv3i1)

115 I have read that reading some of Psalms in Hebrew is a marvelous experience. Something about them being alliterative.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at June 17, 2025 07:58 AM (SfhV1)
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Not all of them but there are numerous instances.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 08:05 AM (n+rGF)

116 GLAAD’s president is frustrated that there has been an “overall decrease in inclusive films” since hitting a record high in 2023. Only 23.6% (59 of 250) of films included LGBTQ characters in 2024, according to the report.

Around 10X more than in general society.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:05 AM (gbOdA)

117 Somebody in the comments last night said that Trump had called for a 3am meeting with his National Security Council, upon his return from Canada (I guess that's where the G7 was). So that's interesting.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 08:05 AM (hOOi9)

118 GLAAD’s president is frustrated that there has been an “overall decrease in inclusive films” since hitting a record high in 2023. Only 23.6% (59 of 250) of films included LGBTQ characters in 2024, according to the report.

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Wait until he finds out how society in general feels about gays since then.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:05 AM (+vtNx)

119 Morning all. So well said JJ. I am a staunch supporter of Israel, but agree any US troop involvement would be a disaster

Posted by: Jonah at June 17, 2025 08:06 AM (YCxFk)

120 Does anyone have a link to the story of Cruz awarding Capitol Police for J6?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 07:44 AM (n+rGF)

The Senate awarded them. No Senator voted no.
https://tinyurl.com/3etud4vz

Also, 421 members of the House voted to award the medals.
https://tinyurl.com/2cz8dpmf

People bitch about Cruz but it was pretty much the entirety of Congress.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:06 AM (ExV1e)

121 People bitch about Cruz but it was pretty much the entirety of Congress.

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It's because Cruz pretends to be different, and people pretend to believe him.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:07 AM (+vtNx)

122 I like CIA director Radcliffe, but very true. Our CIA has been massive political F ups for awhile now. Hopefully Tulsi knows the real deal in Iran

Posted by: Jonah at June 17, 2025 08:07 AM (YCxFk)

123 GLAAD’s president is frustrated that there has been an “overall decrease in inclusive films” since hitting a record high in 2023. Only 23.6% (59 of 250) of films included LGBTQ characters in 2024, according to the report.

Around 10X more than in general society.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:05 AM (gbOdA)
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Only 23.6%? Seems much higher to me. What film didn’t have some homo or dyke lurking somewhere in the cast?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 08:08 AM (5cl3b)

124 99
"It's not my job to push that emergency stop button."

In France, they would say, "Je ne pas ma travaille."

In England, people like that are called Jobsworths. "It's more than my job's worth."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:57 AM (QnmlO)

I'm not allowed to drive the train.
The whistle I can't blow.
It's not my place to say how far the train's supposed to go.
It's not my place to shoot off steam,
Or even ring the bell.
But let the @#$%& jump the track and see who catches hell!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:08 AM (gbOdA)

125 Good morning everyone, thx JJ.
The Cloward - Piven strategy was meant to overload the welfare system to overthrow the "system". The Biden minions applied it to immigration and the illegals are overwhelming a lot of systems, mostly at the state level. It will take lot of effort everywhere to put that genie back in the bottle. That's why the blue states are fighting so hard. Scum

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 08:09 AM (akw+7)

126 I used to have a different nic

Congress by not approving the budget has lost all of it's real power. I'm getting a Star Wars vibe here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 08:09 AM (u82oZ)

127 All I know is Ted Cruz wins. He has had some brutal races against Opponents with massive amounts of left wing money is bad GOP years like 2018

Posted by: Jonah at June 17, 2025 08:09 AM (YCxFk)

128 The Senate and House are controlled by a handful of people, Lisa Minkowski is much more powerful than Ted Cruz will ever be.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 08:09 AM (XV/Pl)

129 the MFM is making every effort to conflate "Vance Boetner" with J.D.Vance

when have you ever heard of a heinous murderer referred to exclusively by his first name?

I guarantee there are low-info types out there that hear "Vance shoots 4, killing 2" and they think our Vice President was the shooter

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Funny, but the only way I even remembered his first name was because of JD Vance. The MFM are truly the most despicable and deplorable people imaginable, so I'm sure they're trying to poison the name Vance for their own purposes.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 08:09 AM (qBdHI)

130 I'm thinking they will replace the sassy black lady with something transgendered or homosexual. Because it is through art we knuckle draggers can be educated into their way of thinking.

Posted by: Case at June 17, 2025 08:10 AM (kDs7V)

131 It's National Apple Streusel Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 08:10 AM (NpAcC)

132 All I know is Ted Cruz wins. He has had some brutal races against Opponents with massive amounts of left wing money is bad GOP years like 2018

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Yep. He's arguably the best Republican in Congress.

(read it again if you don't catch it the first time)

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:10 AM (+vtNx)

133 I guarantee there are low-info types out there that hear "Vance shoots 4, killing 2" and they think our Vice President was the shooter
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 17, 2025 07:54 AM (tljrc)

You'd have to be an idiot to thank that. The VP was a Marine. If he'd shot 4 he'd have killed 4.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:10 AM (ExV1e)

134 Nice collection of links. Thanks JJS. I'm pretty sure Sheboygan is a mythical place, like Shangri-la and Xanadu.

Posted by: Mayor of Pottersville at June 17, 2025 08:11 AM (G5+As)

135 You'd have to be an idiot to thank that. The VP was a Marine. If he'd shot 4 he'd have killed 4.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:10 AM (ExV1e)

And not needed 17 shots to kill 2 people.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:12 AM (gbOdA)

136 Persia’s original major religion. It’s one of the oldest religions with one god, possibly older than Judaism.

So when did Judaism first become defined? We had the Adamic Covenant in the Garden shortly after the Creation of the entire Universe. Unless one argues into the Eternity Past, its hard to get a more temporally older faith system.

The Epistle to the Hebrews dates the earliest examples of the Messianic faith to "Abel", a second generation human being.

If Judaism's "Origin" is the application of the Mosaic Law, then perhaps Zoroastrian precedes. If one goes back to the Abrahamic Covenant, dittos, since we know Abraham was observing another faith prior to the Theophany.

It is where you set the marker.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 08:12 AM (a4flb)

137 Somebody in the comments last night said that Trump had called for a 3am meeting with his National Security Council, upon his return from Canada (I guess that's where the G7 was). So that's interesting.

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Hey now, I'm sure Biden was up at 3am too. Going potty in the middle of the night is just as important!

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 08:13 AM (qBdHI)

138 four black sarcophagi

I cannot find a single pic

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:13 AM (gbOdA)

139 I don't think they expect people to believe J.D. Vance shot anyone, but the op to create a negative association in people's minds with repetition and constant bombardment of the name associated with the shooting is a valid assumption.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:13 AM (+vtNx)

140 I don't know that Cornyn hates America so much as he loves his bank account more than he loves anything else. Very Bush-like.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 07:59 AM (7STKy)

He's a paternalist. The little people make wrong choices, they need their betters to guide them to a fruitful and productive life of toil in service to their betters.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:13 AM (ExV1e)

141 139 I don't think they expect people to believe J.D. Vance shot anyone, but the op to create a negative association in people's minds with repetition and constant bombardment of the name associated with the shooting is a valid assumption.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025

Don't forget "He voted for Trump! "

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 08:14 AM (VE6XX)

142 Yep. He's arguably the best Republican in Congress.

"Best" is a subjective word. "Best" could also be the Republican that brings in the most campaign money and distributes it most effectively for alleged Republican ideals. That would make McConnel the "best" Republican.

I divide the Republicans into three groups:
• those actually performing the rape
• those holding down the victim
• those standing by and videoing the rape.

Cornyn is either doing the rape, or holding down the victim, Cruz is trying to get a good angle for his video.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 08:16 AM (a4flb)

143 Nice collection of links. Thanks JJS. I'm pretty sure Sheboygan is a mythical place, like Shangri-la and Xanadu.

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I'll have you know Sheboygan was one of the touring places of the Kenosha Kickers, Wisconsin's premiere polka band!

Posted by: Gus Polinski at June 17, 2025 08:16 AM (qBdHI)

144 update on the West Chester "no kings" weirdo that my boy Officer Greg snagged before he could do anything untoward ...

so the dude - no carry license - strolled into town with a rifle and mags, dressed oddly like a policeman (which is what alerted Greg)

anyway he was arrested by the brave West Chester PD and then of course allowed bail and somehow came up with $25 grand and was out like THAT!

the WCPD wasn't done tho. last night they got a warrant and searched the dude's house.

lots of little "projects" going on. pipe bombs!

weirder and weirder I swear

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 08:17 AM (Pv3Rg)

145 Biden at 3AM : Jill someone shit in my pajamas

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 08:17 AM (akw+7)

146 Thomas Massie reposted
Rashida Tlaib
@RashidaTlaib

I look forward to supporting this War Powers Resolution. The American people aren't falling for it again. We were lied to about "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq that killed millions + forever changed lives.

It's unconst'l for Trump to go to war without a vote in Congress.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 08:17 AM (NpAcC)

147 It is where you set the marker.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 08:12 AM (a4flb)

Every religion claims to be true for all time.

So if that's your metric, then all religions are equally old and it's a bit of a trivial position.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 08:17 AM (BcT2b)

148 If Judaism's "Origin" is the application of the Mosaic Law, then perhaps Zoroastrian precedes. If one goes back to the Abrahamic Covenant, dittos, since we know Abraham was observing another faith prior to the Theophany.

It is where you set the marker.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 08:12 AM (a4flb)

Abraham goes to tithe to Melchizedek in Salem so that means there must have been an ancient kingdom worshiping the True G D.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:17 AM (gbOdA)

149 four black sarcophagi

I cannot find a single pic
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:13 AM (gbOdA)
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Yeah, I noticed the same thing. Lots of pics of Antarctic wasteland, but not a single image of those sarcophagi.

Maybe they don't *like* being photographed...Or it's all BS.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 08:17 AM (7fElN)

150 @138

The search results indicate this story originated in 2017...

Let's just say it is of questionable veracity.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at June 17, 2025 08:17 AM (MkuC5)

151 Teheran Toby is still here to tell it like it is!

https://tinyurl.com/2knafj5h

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 08:17 AM (n+rGF)

152 Have a great day, everyone. Be that swan gliding serenely though choppy water. Never let them see the feet moving fast.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2025 08:17 AM (u82oZ)

153 Anybody know what Zoroastrianism is?
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Yep. It was the state religion of Persia. It is the first 'guilt' religion until joined by Christians. It postulates the arrival of the Saoshyant, a Messiah. Half man, half God. Some, like myself, see it as the forerunner of Christianity. The religion centers around the teachings of the prophet Zoroaster (Zarathustra) and the belief in one God, Ahura Mazda, who is the creator and the source of all that is good. Zoroastrianism also emphasizes a cosmic struggle between good and evil, with humans playing a role in this battle through their choices.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 08:18 AM (FmapG)

154 The Jew-hating element of the far right is realizing that Trump won’t stop Israel from winning, and they are furious. Some big names have turned completely on Trump over this - Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens come to mind. A number of lesser names as well - good riddance.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 08:18 AM (47gcY)

155 139 I don't think they expect people to believe J.D. Vance shot anyone, but the op to create a negative association in people's minds with repetition and constant bombardment of the name associated with the shooting is a valid assumption.

it is weird how all of a sudden they are using his first name - they don't ever do that normally!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 08:18 AM (Pv3Rg)

156 Apparently Trump gave a 1AM "presser" where he said "he's not much in the mood to negotiate."

Finally. Thank God. He's not interested in a ceasefire. He's not interested in kicking the can down the road. He's not interested in the world having to deal with unstable, genocidal "death to America" types having the capability of destroying whole cities.

Most of all, he's not concerned (I think) with earning plaudits from a morally bankrupt ruling class whose entire existence hinges on maintaining the status quo.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 17, 2025 08:18 AM (WYStd)

157 Hey now, I'm sure Biden was up at 3am too. Going potty in the middle of the night is just as important!

I see that you correctly left out the phrase "...getting out of bed..."

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 08:18 AM (a4flb)

158 So when did Judaism first become defined? We had the Adamic Covenant in the Garden shortly after the Creation of the entire Universe. Unless one argues into the Eternity Past, its hard to get a more temporally older faith system.

The Epistle to the Hebrews dates the earliest examples of the Messianic faith to "Abel", a second generation human being.

If Judaism's "Origin" is the application of the Mosaic Law, then perhaps Zoroastrian precedes. If one goes back to the Abrahamic Covenant, dittos, since we know Abraham was observing another faith prior to the Theophany.

It is where you set the marker.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

Will this be on the test?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 08:18 AM (cYBz/)

159 154 The Jew-hating element of the far right is realizing that Trump won’t stop Israel from winning, and they are furious. Some big names have turned completely on Trump over this - Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens come to mind. A number of lesser names as well - good riddance.

agree tom

also I support the Iranian people! it is so so far past time for the mullahs to be GONE

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 08:19 AM (Pv3Rg)

160 Yep. He's arguably the best Republican in Congress.

"Best" is a subjective word. "Best" could also be the Republican that brings in the most campaign money and distributes it most effectively for alleged Republican ideals. That would make McConnel the "best" Republican.

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I was mostly making fun of him for saying all the good things but not really doing much except making sure he stays in office to hit the ping-pong ball back across the table to the (D)s.

He doesn't make it as obvious as the others, so best.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:19 AM (+vtNx)

161 four black sarcophagi > Four Non-Blondes. at the Capitol Theater 1993

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:20 AM (x0n13)

162 "Will Biden’s Age-Related Mental Issues Ever Be Investigated? Americans Hope So: I&I/TIPP Poll"

The Republicans will half-heartedly try but get nowhere. The reason all the Biden White House Enablers agreed to depositions after being subpoenaed? They will not answer any questions, claiming Executive Privilege. FJB's doctor will not respond either, claiming doctor-patient confidentiality or Executive Privilege. They cannot be charged with failing to comply with a subpoena, as Comer likely hoped. If Comer wants to nullify those claims, he has to go to DC Fed District Court. Checkmate.

The Dem lawyers know all the stalling plays to tell Congressional Investigators to Go To Hell.
types/deletes

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 08:20 AM (aBgBM)

163 Zoroastrianism sounds like something astrological.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 08:21 AM (qBdHI)

164 Local Radio Host on Cornyn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CJ8aazR03g

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:21 AM (gbOdA)

165 Thomas Massie reposted
Rashida Tlaib
@RashidaTlaib

I look forward to supporting this War Powers Resolution. The American people aren't falling for it again. We were lied to about "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq that killed millions + forever changed lives.

It's unconst'l for Trump to go to war without a vote in Congress.
Posted by: redridinghood

Now do LBJ you festering cunt.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:22 AM (PfGa7)

166 Cornyn is either doing the rape, or holding down the victim, Cruz is trying to get a good angle for his video.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

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I really liked this BTW

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:23 AM (+vtNx)

167 Mornin’, All. Happy Tuesday.

Those four black sarcophagi in Antarctica? I’m not saying it was aliens, but…

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:23 AM (77rzZ)

168 It's because Cruz pretends to be different, and people pretend to believe him.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:07 AM (+vtNx)

People also cherrypick issues to make their point. You have to judge based on the entirety of their body of work.

Lots of folks talk about how wonderful Fetterman's tweets are. Some of them would be willing to overlook his actual votes as a result.

If I were forced to guess, I'd imagine that somewhere around 0% of Congress are worth even half a damn. Still, you work with the material you have.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:23 AM (ExV1e)

169 I'm sure Tlaib is very well versed in the US Constitution. How's about we give her an exam and see if she passes....

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 17, 2025 08:23 AM (qBdHI)

170 Trump's running good cop / bad cop with Bibi over Iraq. The goal is regime change.

Trump's scaring those in Tehran to send the message that bad things are coming unless they topple the Ayatollah.

You'll recall that the Iranians revolted before, but Obama helped quash it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2025 08:23 AM (Gqoy+)

171 For those wondering about the Antarctic sarcophagus story, the earliest result I find searching is December...in Pravda.

Cast iron bunk.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at June 17, 2025 08:24 AM (tb1eT)

172 1st century Christianity is in many ways a fusion of OT Judaism and Zoroastrianism. It surprises most Christians to find that almost all Christian beliefs about devils, and the Day of Judgment, and the eternal lake of fire for the evildoers - even the epithet father of lies for the evil one - originally came from Zoroastrianism.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 08:24 AM (47gcY)

173 165 Now do LBJ you festering cunt.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:22 AM (PfGa7)

Jackie Coogan's lightbulb recoils in horror!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:24 AM (x0n13)

174 People bitch about Cruz but it was pretty much the entirety of Congress.

He also has never apologized for, or even explained why, he called J6 an 'insurrection.' And when violence broke out at Trump rallies in 2020, Cruz blamed it on Trump.

Bastardizing Godwin, just because Cruz might hold the conservative line on one or two subjects is like saying Schickelgruber was OK on vegetarianism and animal rights.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 08:25 AM (Dg2sF)

175 I'll have you know Sheboygan was one of the touring places of the Kenosha Kickers, Wisconsin's premiere polka band!
Posted by: Gus Polinski

I prefer the Chicago Push Polka style.

Posted by: Lenny Gomulka at June 17, 2025 08:25 AM (G5+As)

176 163 Zoroastrianism sounds like something astrological.
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Moar Fire and Water. See the burning bush and the spring in the Bible. Its totes Zoroastrian iconography.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 08:25 AM (FmapG)

177 167 Mornin’, All. Happy Tuesday.

Those four black sarcophagi in Antarctica? I’m not saying it was aliens, but…
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:23 AM (77rzZ)

X people assume it is FAKE

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:25 AM (gbOdA)

178 This is huge.

Nolte: Trump Enjoys Majority Support from Black and Hispanic Voters

"Over the five polling days between June 8-12, Rasmussen surveyed 1,772 likely voters and found that Trump enjoys an overall 53 percent job approval rating. This includes 54 percent approval from black voters and 53 percent support from Hispanic voters. White voters come in at 53 percent. I don’t think I ever remember a Republican president enjoying a higher job approval rating from black voters compared to white voters.

"A total of 59 percent of men approve of the job Trump is doing, compared to 49 percent of women.

"The Democrat Party has become the party of white, wealthy elites, primarily emotionally unstable and neurotic white women who can easily be convinced to believe in anything but God."

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2025 08:25 AM (Gqoy+)

179 The black fatty in Times Square was only temporary. So it wasn’t removed so much as expired. Good riddance. Like there aren’t enough fat people in Times Square already? We need a statue of one?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 08:25 AM (5cl3b)

180 People like Carson , Owens etc don't seem to understand the existential danger to the Western way of life that Islam represents. They should look at the creeping invasion of Europe and ask themselves "will our children and grandchildren be attacked by invaders?". If they respond with anything but "yes they will" then they are as dumb as they seem

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 08:26 AM (akw+7)

181 If I were forced to guess, I'd imagine that somewhere around 0% of Congress are worth even half a damn. Still, you work with the material you have.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

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Imagine if we as a nation were to get rid of the 60M-100M illegals that are here AND clean up the election.

The absurdity of this being a 50.1% nation with 15K people deciding the outcome would be finished for the foreseeable future. (I bet it's closer to 70-30)

Which I think is the reason it's avoided.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:26 AM (+vtNx)

182 Massie eternally be clowned himself when he came out for only deporting illegals who’d been convicted of a crime in court. He’s completely fine with most illegals staying here.

Massie is a fraud.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 08:26 AM (47gcY)

183 46 I read that the killer of the Minnesota people is a Wisconsin people. Reportedly from Sheboygan.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at June 17, 2025 07:37 AM (SfhV1)

What rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Sheboygan to be born?

Posted by: The cheesehead cannot hear the cheesemaker at June 17, 2025 08:26 AM (TbWk/)

184 You'll recall that the Iranians revolted before, but Obama helped quash it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2025 08:23 AM (Gqoy+)

And Trump had Iran eating dirt in 2019 and Biden freed up Billions in trade and illegal oil

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:27 AM (gbOdA)

185 con't

The Democrat Party has become the party of white, wealthy elites, primarily emotionally unstable and neurotic white women who can easily be convinced to believe in anything but God.

It's a poll of "likely voters." The way they determine who's "likely" is based on old turnout and will mostly miss new voters getting off their asses. White Non-College is the largest cohort at 35% and Trump won in 2016 and 2024 because they had higher than expected turnout. Pollsters missed this, but I didn't. White Non-College still has plenty of room to grow turnout. Trump will also draw more from Hispanics and Black men.
The D party is on a bad trajectory that will only get worse. They have Obama to blame as he drove working class white out of their historic home in the D party.

Trump will campaign in 2026 like he's on the ballot, and in a sense he will be. He'll tout actual gains he's made for working people. Especially job gains from his policies which will have kicked in by election day 2026.

Trump will primary bad GOPe Congresscritters.

End game is to have working control of the House and Senate.

Developing ....

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2025 08:27 AM (Gqoy+)

186 Posted this in the wrong thread

Zoroaster sometimes known as Zarathustra was the prophet who founded Zoroastranism.

Ahura Mazda vs Ahriman (which we could correlate to a supreme deity of good vs demon of evil) locked in an eternal struggle

Very important in temples of Ahura Mazda are the sacred flame.

That's all I know

And I think they have psalms/hymns

Ironically closer in spirit to Judaism and Christianity than Islam, imo., which is a Christian sect gone way awry.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 17, 2025 08:28 AM (Splbu)

187 Yeah, I noticed the same thing. Lots of pics of Antarctic wasteland, but not a single image of those sarcophagi.

Maybe they don't *like* being photographed...Or it's all BS.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 17, 2025 08:17 AM (7fElN)

Anyone seen photos of the massive city beneath the pyramids?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:28 AM (ExV1e)

188 [iu]Yep. It was the state religion of Persia. It is the first 'guilt' religion until joined by Christians. It postulates the arrival of the Saoshyant, a Messiah. Half man, half God. Some, like myself, see it as the forerunner of Christianity

Then why does Christianity loudly claim and adopt all of its origins to the Old Testament starting with the Adamic Covenant? How would Christianity get is original cast of evangelists from Jews?

While Zoroastrianism copies principles originating from the foundation of the Earth, and has the concept of spiritual renewal, orthodox Christianity (not the Big Box Free Will DIY Salvation variety) exclusively traces spiritual regeneration from God Himself (via the Paraclete). That in of itself is revolutionary and distinguishes it from every other religion.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 08:29 AM (a4flb)

189 179 The black fatty in Times Square was only temporary. So it wasn’t removed so much as expired. Good riddance. Like there aren’t enough fat people in Times Square already? We need a statue of one?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 08:25 AM (5cl3b)

Or maybe the fact every time a pic was posted people labeled it as

Wut ha happen was!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:29 AM (gbOdA)

190 165 Thomas Massie reposted
Rashida Tlaib
@RashidaTlaib

I look forward to supporting this War Powers Resolution. The American people aren't falling for it again. We were lied to about "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq that killed millions + forever changed lives.

It's unconst'l for Trump to go to war without a vote in Congress.
Posted by: redridinghood

Now do LBJ you festering cunt.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:22 AM (PfGa7)

I've been expecting the False Claim of Iranian Weapons of Mass Destruction meme from Democrats. Some, maybe all, will deny the evidence no matter what. Because the Zionists faked the evidence! And because TRUMP!!! The Democrat base will eat it up. Will the crazy lies make any political difference in '26 or '28? I dunno.

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 08:29 AM (aBgBM)

191 I’m convinced most of these ‘regular’ people with severe TDS are basically news junkies who can’t turn off CNN or MSNBC and still believe everything shovel of shit they’re getting from the talking heads on their TV.
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The facts back you up on that.
1) Strongest support for Kamala/Biden? 65+
2) Largest audience of CNN/MSNBC? 65+
3) And 95% of those at the "no kings" protests? 65+

Anecdotally, I've seen a clip of a former lefty on what was the #1 thing that caused him to be a lefty and also what caused him leave?
Watching CNN and stopping.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 08:29 AM (G1EQj)

192 154 The Jew-hating element of the far right is realizing that Trump won’t stop Israel from winning, and they are furious. Some big names have turned completely on Trump over this - Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens come to mind. A number of lesser names as well - good riddance.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 08:18 AM (47gcY)

Exactly. They're pulling every stop, equating Iran's longstanding and nearly complete quest for nuclearization with Iraqi's phantom WMDs. When Iran is neutered, Israel is secure, and we haven't gone to war, what will they say?

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 17, 2025 08:30 AM (x2CMu)

193 Biden's dog. Thanks for the lengthy X read on the current pounding of iran. What would have happened to all of this planning if Bibi had been removed from office? Would Israel have continued with their planning that started in 2007?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 17, 2025 08:30 AM (2NHgQ)

194 And Trump had Iran eating dirt in 2019 and Biden freed up Billions in trade and illegal oil
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10% for the Big Guy is a policy. I doubt Biden got the full 10%.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 17, 2025 08:30 AM (FmapG)

195 ‘Also sprach Zarathustra’

IYKYK

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 08:30 AM (5cl3b)

196 Now do LBJ you festering cunt.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:22 AM (PfGa7)

Truman.
Bush (either one).

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:31 AM (ExV1e)

197 Massie eternally be clowned himself when he came out for only deporting illegals who’d been convicted of a crime in court. He’s completely fine with most illegals staying here.

Massie is a fraud.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 08:26 AM (47gcY)
*******
Yes he is and needs to be primaried. He's completely worthless.
And now he's promoting Tlaib's tweets.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 08:32 AM (NpAcC)

198 I thought ‘Trump always chickens out’? Now they’re worried he wont chicken out on Iran?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 08:32 AM (5cl3b)

199 195 ‘Also sprach Zarathustra’

IYKYK
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 17, 2025 08:30 AM (5cl3b)

I got 2001 problems, but a bitch ain't one.

Posted by: A monolith, however... at June 17, 2025 08:32 AM (TbWk/)

200 175 I'll have you know Sheboygan was one of the touring places of the Kenosha Kickers, Wisconsin's premiere polka band!
Posted by: Gus Polinski

I prefer the Chicago Push Polka style.
Posted by: Lenny Gomulka at June 17, 2025 08:25 AM (G5+As)

Greenpoint Brooklyn. That was Poland for me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 17, 2025 08:33 AM (x0n13)

201 Zoroastrianism is pretty neat, with the cool hat, mask, cape, horseback riding, swordfighting, and general derring-do.

Posted by: The Mark of Zorroastrianism! at June 17, 2025 08:34 AM (TbWk/)

202 And now he's promoting Tlaib's tweets.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 08:32 AM (NpAcC)

He's really outed himself now. The Trump effect.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 17, 2025 08:34 AM (x2CMu)

203 The black fatty in Times Square was only temporary. So it wasn’t removed so much as expired. Good riddance. Like there aren’t enough fat people in Times Square already? We need a statue of one?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

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It was poorly thought out, because people remembered the statue of Robert E. Lee being torn down and melted down, and even if they didn't like him it still wasn't difficult to see that a statue celebrating the modern face of anger, ignorance, obesity, and bad decisions was erected in its place in the public square.

It was a hilariously bad decision.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:35 AM (+vtNx)

204 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 08:35 AM (Zz0t1)

205 Those four black sarcophagi in Antarctica? I’m not saying it was aliens, but…
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:23 AM (77rzZ)
X people assume it is FAKE
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 08:25 AM (gbOdA)

Should have stuck with the golden plates story. People like golden stuff.

Posted by: Jabroni at June 17, 2025 08:35 AM (lbkx/)

206 God Bless you JJ. Yeoman's work, every day.

Happy Birthday!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 08:35 AM (Zz0t1)

207 surprises most Christians to find that almost all Christian beliefs about devils, and the Day of Judgment, and the eternal lake of fire for the evildoers - even the epithet father of lies for the evil one - originally came from Zoroastrianism.

So we just forget about Joel 2:1-2, Isaiah 13:9; Daniel 12:2, Malachi 4:1, I can go on.

All of this is covered in the OT and is not borrowed from Zoroastrianism.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 17, 2025 08:36 AM (a4flb)

208 Massie retweeting Tlaib is pretty much the definition of "jumping the shark"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 08:36 AM (akw+7)

209 Dear Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon:

https://tinyurl.com/5n834hfc

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 08:36 AM (n+rGF)

210 Trump wants Fortress America but that doesn't mean full isolationism.

He wants to end NATO as we've know it.

The EU is not our friend.

We need to stop poking the Russian bear.

China is best handled by isolating its trade, which it has abused. Everyone hates China, so we can do this.

Iran's leaders are the root couse of much of the instabilty in the Middle East. Take them out.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2025 08:37 AM (Gqoy+)

211 The Democrat Party has become the party of white, wealthy elites

Alternatively: They are the party of the poor and downtrodden which is why they want more American poor and downtrodden.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 08:38 AM (BpO1e)

212 Anyone seen photos of the massive city beneath the pyramids?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:28 AM (ExV1e)

Captain Jack O’Neill discovered it 30 years ago.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 08:38 AM (47gcY)

213 Ask the kurds about Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 08:39 AM (Zz0t1)

214 We need to stop poking the Russian bear.

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I hope one day soon we can have a national conversation about how China, a country with slave labor, chemical / biological attacks, and spies all over our nation, is our dear friend, but Russia is our solemn enemy.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:39 AM (+vtNx)

215 Remember, the Jews were in exile in the Persian Empire. They picked up Zoroastrian ideas there, some of which are reflected in Christianity.

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:39 AM (77rzZ)

216 Michale Stivic is a dumb Polack and he doesn't even Polka!

Posted by: His Father-in-law at June 17, 2025 08:40 AM (G5+As)

217
I hope Polack
Makes a comeback.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:40 AM (+vtNx)

218 Michale Stivic is a dumb Polack and he doesn't even Polka!
Posted by: His Father-in-law

Apples, peaches, pumpkin pie!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:41 AM (PfGa7)

219 Good morning!

>>CCP-Run Lab Launches First Neural Device to Control Computers With Your Brain.

Or, you know, computers that control your brain.
After Covid, WTF? Nothing out of China should be trusted - it's either evil or fraud.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 08:41 AM (72zuV)

220 I hope Polack
Makes a comeback.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie

This part Polack agrees.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 08:42 AM (PfGa7)

221 Ask the kurds about Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 08:39 AM (Zz0t1)
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I'm not saying what was correct or incorrect but this was bipartisan at the time:

https://youtu.be/RhZ2ZvS2t_E

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 08:42 AM (n+rGF)

222 I love how at the end of the Black Sarcophagi story, the discoverers just put them back where they found them and no one will ever see them again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 08:43 AM (47gcY)

223 >>It was poorly thought out, because people remembered the statue of Robert E. Lee being torn down and melted down, and even if they didn't like him it still wasn't difficult to see that a statue celebrating the modern face of anger, ignorance, obesity, and bad decisions was erected in its place in the public square.

It was a hilariously bad decision.

"Could have been worse. . . or better, IYKWIM"
-- Blucifer

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 08:44 AM (72zuV)

224 Anyone seen photos of the massive city beneath the pyramids?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 08:28 AM (ExV1e)

Hey! Those 4 mysterious black sarcophagi in the Antarctic had to be built somewhere!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2025 08:44 AM (iJfKG)

225 Thomas Massie reposted
Rashida Tlaib
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When you find yourself agreeing with her, you are on the wrong side of America and Americans.

The only thing harder than determining which Republican mediocrity is the relative "best" in Congress is narrowing the list of "worst" to just 5.

It's such an aggressive competition, an endless race to betray, destroy and scuttle conservatives, that you could never settle on only one.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 08:46 AM (G1EQj)

226 "Over the five polling days between June 8-12, Rasmussen surveyed 1,772 likely voters and found that Trump enjoys an overall 53 percent job approval rating. This includes 54 percent approval from black voters and 53 percent support from Hispanic voters. White voters come in at 53 percent. I don’t think I ever remember a Republican president enjoying a higher job approval rating from black voters compared to white voters.
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So, Trump is uniting the country despite the Dems and the media's (BIRM) best efforts.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 08:46 AM (Dv3i1)

227 Why no photos of the sarcophagi or their contents?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:46 AM (77rzZ)

228
I'm not saying what was correct or incorrect but this was bipartisan at the time:

https://youtu.be/RhZ2ZvS2t_E
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 08:42 AM (n+rGF)

Geez the amount of dirtbags we've had in Government is staggering.

And "The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" was an interesting choice.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 08:46 AM (Zz0t1)

229 "but there is a difference between isolationism and sending in the Army all over the place - jjs"

Indeed. People like us HAVE been sent all over the place - for almost nothing except to enrich politicians and their paymasters in the form of weapons and construction and security contractors. As well as the NGO's. Since Vietnam.

We ARE NOT FUCKING ISOLATIONISTS and neither is Trump.

Can we review the LAST TEN FUCKING YEARS OF THE DEEP STATE TRYING TO ASSASINATE president Trump. Or, since 1963?!

Posted by: Danimal28 at June 17, 2025 08:47 AM (1E4GV)

230 >>Massie eternally be clowned himself when he came out for only deporting illegals who’d been convicted of a crime in court. He’s completely fine with most illegals staying here.

Het, remember in the 2016 GOP primary, when Trump was all "they gotta go!" and the 15 other Republicans were like, "nah, bro, immigration is love* and the more the merrier!?"

Massie has a lot of company on this issue.

*For Jeb, he meant literally, since his wife entered the US illegally

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 08:47 AM (72zuV)

231 Geez the amount of dirtbags we've had in Government is staggering.

And "The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" was an interesting choice.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 08:46 AM (Zz0t1)
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IMO, the worst actors then as now are the spook agencies.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 08:47 AM (n+rGF)

232 President Trump has stated unequivocally that Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons so that raises the question...

who else cannot be allowed? Looking forward to that discussion.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 08:48 AM (x405f)

233
I love how at the end of the Black Sarcophagi story, the discoverers just put them back where they found them and no one will ever see them again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 08:43 AM (47gcY)

Somebody's been watching "The Raiders of the Lost Ark" too many times.

If real and not some silly hoax, probably some gov't (US, Russian, Chinese), told them "Hey, put our toys back and shut up about the whole thing."

Scientists abandoning a new discovery?

Nope, doesn't happen.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2025 08:48 AM (iJfKG)

234 The ONE Way ‘Spaceballs 2’ Can Crush Expectations

Simple. Be funny. And no, a barrage of "White people are so dumb, am I right?" like they did with the sequel to History of the World Part 1 is not funny.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 08:50 AM (BpO1e)

235 Massie eternally be clowned himself when he came out for only deporting illegals who’d been convicted of a crime in court. He’s completely fine with most illegals staying here.

I don't mind so much the illegals who are competing with our own criminals, but stealing an American family's livelihood? That's big.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 08:50 AM (x405f)

236 Scientists abandoning a new discovery?

Nope, doesn't happen.

Posted by: naturalfake

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I don't think it necessarily happened here, but I'd wager new discoveries are abandoned all the time, either willingly or via threat.

Discoveries threaten Science. Not, science, but Science. Something that upends scientific consensus damages the status quo and is not allowed.

The easiest example is how vision works. If we were to determine that people can feel stares from other people then imagine how much of what we pretend to know would be wrong. We'd have to start over, and that's not going to happen.

It saddens me to think of how we've almost certainly stopped progressing scientifically in order to maintain the gravy train of established Science.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:53 AM (+vtNx)

237 "81 "Officials who have seen the documents told Just the News the FBI had a relatively new confidential source who provided information in summer 2020 that the Chinese government was manufacturing and exporting fake U.S. driver's licenses as part of a plot to create voter identities for Chinese residents living in the United States so they could vote with fake mail-in ballots." "

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Not quite. At least to me. China is simply entering a lucrative market - fake IDs for teens. Teens can buy them online and they get a really good fake ID straight from China. The teen provides the picture and the state in need; China does the rest.

If you have a teen and they are willing to talk about it, I'm sure they know someone who has bought a fake ID from China.

Posted by: Troofer at June 17, 2025 08:53 AM (SawFp)

238 WASHINGTON, D.C. (LifeSiteNews) — Two U.S. House committees launched a probe last week into the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) and Catholic Charities, among over 200 other NGOs, over their alleged misuse of government funds to aid illegal immigration.

The U.S. House Committee on Homeland Security, chaired by Maryland Republican Congressman Mark E. Green, and the Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations, and Accountability, chaired by Oklahoma Republican Congressman Josh Brecheen, opened an investigation on June 10 into the USCCB and Catholic Charities over the organizations’ alleged use of taxpayer funding to assist illegal aliens since the start of the Biden-Harris administration. The USCCB and Catholic Charities have long been accused of aiding illegal immigration.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 08:53 AM (Dv3i1)

239 The ONE Way ‘Spaceballs 2’ Can Crush Expectations

Simple. Be funny. And no, a barrage of "White people are so dumb, am I right?" like they did with the sequel to History of the World Part 1 is not funny.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 08:50 AM (BpO1e)

Josh Gad as the head writer means it will suck mightily.

He's the Hollywood equivalent of some guy digging graveyard corpses just so he can fuck them in the skull.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2025 08:54 AM (iJfKG)

240 Black sarcophagi?

Doncha mean sarcophagi of color, rayciss?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 17, 2025 08:54 AM (Splbu)

241 All this talk about mysterious finds in the frozen wastelands and no-one has yelled "Tekeli-li!" yet?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 08:54 AM (Dg2sF)

242 >>I don't mind so much the illegals who are competing with our own criminals, but stealing an American family's livelihood? That's big.

I mind both.
Biden in particular invited in organized international crime cartels that have been stripping this country clean -- the looting of luxury stores, the constant car thefts*, the flooding of ever city and town with deadly drugs. I want them ALL out.

*At DIA they were driving in car transport trucks, filling them up, and immediately heading to the border.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 08:55 AM (72zuV)

243 Good morning JJ and horde

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 08:55 AM (+qU29)

244 He's the Hollywood equivalent of some guy digging graveyard corpses just so he can fuck them in the skull.

"Love is love, H8R!"

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 08:55 AM (BpO1e)

245 Got a laugh out of the Cali foot processing facility that had its workforce raided by ICE. The next day hundreds of Americans were applying for jobs. Kind of blows away the "doing jobs Americans won't do narrative"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 08:56 AM (akw+7)

246 Josh Gad as the head writer means it will suck mightily.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2025 08:54 AM (iJfKG)

Yes, a foregone conclusion. Mel should retire.

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 17, 2025 08:56 AM (x2CMu)

247 Also, how can something be called a “sarcophagus” if it doesn’t contain a body?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 08:56 AM (77rzZ)

248 I don't mind so much the illegals who are competing with our own criminals, but stealing an American family's livelihood? That's big.

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That's ALL illegals.

You're not allowed to work in the U.S. without authorization. If you do then you're a federal criminal. And that's before discussing the damage to schools, ERs, insurance costs, etc.

Deport all criminals.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:56 AM (+vtNx)

249 AP/HuffPo: Trump Directs ICE To Expand Deportations In Democratic-Run Cities...called on ICE officials “to do all in their power to achieve the very important goal of delivering the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History.”

Escalation. HE is a domestic enemy of We the people. He wants civil war.

It's a planned set up. He desparately NEEDS to have a riot so he can declare the situation an Insurrection, allowing him to use the "Insurrection Act, to use the U.S. Military and declare the entire U.S. under martial law, and ignore the Posse Comitatus Act

He did tried to do that at his ceremony, but it failed because not even his supporters showed up, much less demonstrators. He must be feeling pretty puny today.

Even Republicans are getting upset about this, and mouthing off: "I thought you were going after Rapists, Murderers, and Mexican Gang Members."

Hey Repubs: you brought Trump to the party. Now suffer, as we all told you that you would.

He's intimidating Voters. Where is the Democratic leadership?? Point out that the red states have more crime!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 08:56 AM (JCZqz)

250 Josh Gad as the head writer means it will suck mightily.

He's the Hollywood equivalent of some guy digging graveyard corpses just so he can fuck them in the skull.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2025 08:54 AM (iJfKG)

I had no idea who he was, but this tells me a lot.

Thanks.

I've said it's likely going to suck, but I will hold judgement. Hopefully Brooks lasts long enough to see it through. He's 99.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 08:57 AM (Zz0t1)

251 >>If you have a teen and they are willing to talk about it, I'm sure they know someone who has bought a fake ID from China.

Dang, in the old days you simply needed a friend who had a summer job at the DMV. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 08:57 AM (72zuV)

252 who else cannot be allowed? Looking forward to that discussion.

Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 08:48 AM (x405f)

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That's part of the fun being the big dog on the porch. You decide who has what.

At this point, if you don't eliminate all the mullahs and take out Fordow completely, you've just guaranteed Iran will eventually get a nuclear weapon.

We didn't - couldn't - stop North Korea. Now they have their regime protection. Iran will most likely be the same if the mullahs survive.

But yes - interesting thought experiment: which other countries are watching this and thinking we need nukes to ensure our survival. Now which ones will the US allow to get them.

Posted by: Troofer at June 17, 2025 08:57 AM (SawFp)

253 Discoveries threaten Science. Not, science, but Science. Something that upends scientific consensus damages the status quo and is not allowed.

The easiest example is how vision works. If we were to determine that people can feel stares from other people then imagine how much of what we pretend to know would be wrong. We'd have to start over, and that's not going to happen.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:53 AM (+vtNx)

We already know some people can feel stares. How many times has a guy stared, mouth agape, at a hot looking woman and she always - ALWAYS - keeps looking at you as you do it?? Hmm? Maybe her boobs get hot, like ears do?

Can I get a grant?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 17, 2025 08:57 AM (0eaVi)

254 He's intimidating Voters.

How?

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at June 17, 2025 08:57 AM (SfhV1)

255 [i
He's intimidating Voters. Where is the Democratic leadership?? Point out that the red states have more crime!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 08:56 AM (JCZqz)

When you isolate the blue shithole cities from the stats in red states, the crime rate is almost zero.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 08:58 AM (Zz0t1)

256 Now suffer, as we all told you that you would.

You poor child. We're not suffering in the least. We're rejoicing at the fact that deportations are finally happening even if it's not fast enough.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 08:58 AM (BpO1e)

257 good morning JJ, Horde

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 17, 2025 08:58 AM (vdLS7)

258 Dang, in the old days you simply needed a friend who had a summer job at the DMV. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 08:57 AM (72zuV)

Or knew someone in the university copy center with access to the color copier and a laminator.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 08:59 AM (Zz0t1)

259 The only thing more annoying than the phony conservative act of Massie is that there is a constituency that slurps up his televangelist-style hucksterism as authentic.

That somehow they believe his situational conservatism is principled despite the regular result being the constant advance of liberal policies.

The only thing stupider than the leftist lamenting "what happened to our city?" is the Massie supporters expressing equal bewilderment in "why do Democrats keep winning?"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 08:59 AM (G1EQj)

260 >>He's intimidating Voters.

>>How?

Because they're voters, but not citizens.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 08:59 AM (72zuV)

261 Dang, in the old days you simply needed a friend who had a summer job at the DMV. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 08:57 AM (72zuV)

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My oldest, now in his 20s, tells me they come with workable/scannable bar codes. They are high tech indeed. And...they will create two for you. Just in case you lose one.

If you have access to your teen's accounts, look for a Paypal purchase around 60/80 dollars. Weird-sounding company? Probably a Chinese fake ID company.

Posted by: Troofer at June 17, 2025 08:59 AM (SawFp)

262 >>Or knew someone in the university copy center with access to the color copier and a laminator.

Or a friend whose dad owned a bar. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 09:00 AM (72zuV)

263 Now suffer, as we all told you that you would.

You poor child. We're not suffering in the least.

*raises hand* I had to let my cotton picker go last week.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at June 17, 2025 09:00 AM (SfhV1)

264
If you have access to your teen's accounts, look for a Paypal purchase around 60/80 dollars. Weird-sounding company? Probably a Chinese fake ID company.
Posted by: Troofer at June 17, 2025 08:59 AM (SawFp)

First Daughter's roommate got one. Said her B Date was 2024.

It still works, because no one cares.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:00 AM (Zz0t1)

265
Hey Repubs: you brought Trump to the party. Now suffer, as we all told you that you would.

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Want to know a secret?

Most people have been saying "Yes, please."

We want this. We want to endure the slight inconvenience for a few years as adults so that we can hand our children a booming economy full of good jobs that pay well and a nation where everything is better and cheaper because we don't have 3rd world invaders infesting the schools, roads, and ERs.

Yes, you've figured us out. Congratulations.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:01 AM (+vtNx)

266 “If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.”

— Thomas Sowell

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 09:01 AM (gbOdA)

267 Reported on X -

Open Source Intel
@Osint613
Reports indicate the Chinese Embassy is evacuating its staff from Tehran.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 09:01 AM (Dv3i1)

268 My oldest, now in his 20s, tells me they come with workable/scannable bar codes. They are high tech indeed. And...they will create two for you. Just in case you lose one.

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Thanks. I need a real ID and the wait time is absurd.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:01 AM (+vtNx)

269 Black Sarcophagi , strange radio frequency, protecting us from outer space ? Sounds like the Fifth Element to me....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 09:02 AM (VE6XX)

270 Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 08:53 AM (+vtNx)

Nah. Really, it doesn't work that way.

With science on the slow crawl stage since all the easy stuff's been found-

there isn't a scientist on the Earth that wouldn't kill to be the first to be the frontline discoverer of something totally new and unknown.

This stinks of stupid hoax.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2025 09:02 AM (iJfKG)

271 For humorless fed hall monitors: The Real ID comment was a joke

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:03 AM (+vtNx)

272 This little nugget is from a week ago, posted today:

@RapidResponse47
·
11m
Gen. Erik Kurilla,
@CENTCOM
Commander (June 10, 2025): "It is estimated that current stockpiles and the available centrifuges ... are sufficient to produce its first 25 kg of weapons-grade material in roughly one week and enough for up to ten nuclear weapons in three weeks."
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That analysis is from the IAEA describing Iran's nuclear program. It's one of the reasons why Israel moved when it did. It also suggests that there are "materials" in Iran's possession that are highly toxic, radioactive. And we know several of Iran's nuclear sites are deep underground.

I would presume they'd need to be dismantled. Because there's uncertainty about the ability to reach and then destroy, completely, some of the deeply buried facilities.

Or, go inside the ones unreachable by current weaponry and destroy them from within. Which might be "The Plan™".

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:03 AM (Q4IgG)

273 We want this. We want to endure the slight inconvenience for a few years as adults so that we can hand our children a booming economy full of good jobs that pay well and a nation where everything is better and cheaper because we don't have 3rd world invaders infesting the schools, roads, and ERs.
_____

Whoa there boy, not so fast. Our nannies and gardners aren't so easily replaced.

Posted by: Country Club Republicans at June 17, 2025 09:03 AM (Dv3i1)

274 269 Black Sarcophagi , strange radio frequency, protecting us from outer space ? Sounds like the Fifth Element to me....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 09:02 AM (VE6XX)

Fourth or fifth
Whatever it takes

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 09:03 AM (gbOdA)

275 Good morning dear morons and happy birthday JJ

If you are in Tehran, look up....

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2025 09:04 AM (RIvkX)

276 Thanks. I need a real ID and the wait time is absurd.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:01 AM (+vtNx)

You cannot get an appointment?

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 09:04 AM (gbOdA)

277 267 Reported on X -

Open Source Intel
@Osint613
Reports indicate the Chinese Embassy is evacuating its staff from Tehran.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

Yeah, they didn't evacuate their embassy in Belgrade in 1999, and were "accidentally" hit with multiple US JDAMs. Whoops! Whoopsie. I guess they learned their lesson...

Posted by: Military Moron at June 17, 2025 09:04 AM (JCZqz)

278 a giant tootsie roll into the swimming pool.

Hmmmm ... intriguing!

Posted by: Amber Heard at June 17, 2025 09:05 AM (N5sob)

279
Whoa there boy, not so fast. Our nannies and gardners aren't so easily replaced.
Posted by: Country Club Republicans at June 17, 2025 09:03 AM (Dv3i1)

Moments after ICE raided a meat packing plant in Nebraska, the lobby was filled with AMERICANS filling out job applications for the newly available positions in the plant.

Everything they tell you about the need for illegals is bullshit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:05 AM (Zz0t1)

280 Even Republicans are getting upset about this, and mouthing off: "I thought you were going after Rapists, Murderers, and Mexican Gang Members."

Hey Repubs: you brought Trump to the party. Now suffer, as we all told you that you would.
+++
Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking to me. The only Trump voters I know who aren't happy, are the ones who say he isn't deporting them fast enough.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 17, 2025 09:05 AM (Lo97M)

281 +++
Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking to me. The only Trump voters I know who aren't happy, are the ones who say he isn't deporting them fast enough.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 17, 2025 09:05 AM (Lo97M)

Add me to that list

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 09:06 AM (VE6XX)

282 I need a real ID and the wait time is absurd.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:01 AM (+vtNx)

You live in New Jersey?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 09:06 AM (L5An7)

283 >>Reports indicate the Chinese Embassy is evacuating its staff from Tehran.

The cable from Beijing simply said: "You go now"

Posted by: one hour sober at June 17, 2025 09:06 AM (Y1sOo)

284 there isn't a scientist on the Earth that wouldn't kill to be the first to be the frontline discoverer of something totally new and unknown.

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My point is there's no grant money if it's not approved, and Science would gang up peer-review it and say "Oh, this isn't true!!!" if it threatened their cash.

Global warming is fact now because of that very approach. I sort of remember a researcher who wrote a book about bell curves that was quickly beaten into submission. I'm sure there are others.

But again, serious research into something like feeling stares would upend everything we know about multiple fields. It can't be allowed.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:06 AM (+vtNx)

285 SCP ordered them to put the sarcophaguses back

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 17, 2025 09:06 AM (64hYW)

286 Saw this on X yesterday, and wanted to share: "50,000 out of 75,000 mosques in Iran have closed due to a significant decline in attendance.Meanwhile, there’s a boom in people attending and visiting Zoroastrian temples, the native religion of Iran!"

Posted by: Mutnodjmet at June 17, 2025 09:06 AM (MIlLy)

287
Yeah, they didn't evacuate their embassy in Belgrade in 1999, and were "accidentally" hit with multiple US JDAMs. Whoops! Whoopsie. I guess they learned their lesson...
Posted by: Military Moron at June 17, 2025 09:04 AM (JCZqz)

"I'm sure our aim would've been a bit better if we'd have some F*CKIN' SLEEP!!!!"

- - - - - Sam Kinison

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:06 AM (Zz0t1)

288 "Everything they tell you about the need for illegals is bullshit."

You mean if you actually paid Americans an American level wage, they'll apply for work?! UNPOSSIBLE!!

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 09:07 AM (BpO1e)

289 Connecting the dots?

As Deportations Rise, The U.S. Is On Track For The Lowest Murder Rate On Record

Murder rates are plummeting. While we still have more than half a year to go, Kash Patel, the FBI’s director, says that the U.S. is on track to have the lowest murder rate ever. The current record low occurred in 2014 when the FBI reported a murder rate of 4.45 per 100,000.

The question is: why? Law enforcement matters, but it is probably also that Trump is deporting criminal illegal aliens. . . .

Saw 'state of crime in Denver' presentation by then police chief in 2022. The gist of it was: almost all crime happens in 5 hotspots, and by the same people dang.
Now, if ICE is quickly deporting these key repeat offenders in every major city that are here illegally? Voila!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 09:08 AM (72zuV)

290 You cannot get an appointment?

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Three months out even looking at places in the sticks.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:08 AM (+vtNx)

291 The only Trump voters I know who aren't happy, are the ones who say he isn't deporting them fast enough.

Raises hand. We have cargo planes and cruise ships just waiting to be used!

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 09:08 AM (BpO1e)

292 a giant tootsie roll into the swimming pool.

Hmmmm ... intriguing!
Posted by: Amber Heard
________

It's no big deal.

Posted by: Carl Spackler at June 17, 2025 09:09 AM (ITkJX)

293 Good news,in case you haven't heard yet:

Patrick Casey
@restoreorderusa
14m

There is no amnesty for farm workers.

The WH reversed the ICE order once it found out about it.

https://tinyurl.com/4ysnz7s9

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 09:09 AM (n+rGF)

294
You mean if you actually paid Americans an American level wage, they'll apply for work?! UNPOSSIBLE!!
Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 09:07 AM (BpO1e)

One of the more frustrating things GWB said was there were "jobs Americans just won't do."

That and "Islam is a religion of peace."

What a disappointment that f*cker was.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:09 AM (Zz0t1)

295 Israel had first use of Davids Sling to blow up missile in SPACE.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 09:10 AM (gbOdA)

296 IDF reports eliminating two more top command Iranian generals. One was a replacement for a general eliminated four days ago.

Iranian commanders visiting their forces must be like a scene in the movie Stripes.

"Where is the base commander?"
"BLOWN UP, SIR!!!"

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:10 AM (aBgBM)

297 My point is there's no grant money if it's not approved, and Science would gang up peer-review it and say "Oh, this isn't true!!!" if it threatened their cash.
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Hah, saw an article saying scientists need to hide the fact that there has been no warming in the last 15 years. I should have bookmarked it because the search results only produce articles that refute the pause.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 09:10 AM (Dv3i1)

298 Discoveries threaten Science. Not, science, but Science. Something that upends scientific consensus damages the status quo and is not allowed.
---
Graham Hancock may be an atheist kook.

But the absolute vitriol and scorched-earth attacks against anyone who dares suggest the modern American Indians are not the direct, linear decedents of the original inhabitants is real.

There's been multiple archeological finds that counter, question or upend the "consensus" of the Artic land bridge sole migration route that they refuse to allow to proceed.

Basically, they have no clue what the pre-Columbian Americas were like, have completely fabricated much of their beliefs and that's no reason to change their minds.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 17, 2025 09:11 AM (G1EQj)

299 Murder rates are plummeting. While we still have more than half a year to go, Kash Patel, the FBI’s director, says that the U.S. is on track to have the lowest murder rate ever. The current record low occurred in 2014 when the FBI reported a murder rate of 4.45 per 100,000.

"Well shit......"

- - - -- The DNC

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:11 AM (Zz0t1)

300 ugh Hewitt
@hughhewitt
42m
“Iran military leadership on the run, Israel says, as large blasts reportedly rock Tehran
[IDF] reveals it bombed secret command center before killing Iran’s new top military commander, ready to pick off remaining brass” —
@TimesofIsrael

A “generals’ plot” (rather, a “remaining generals’ plot”

has got to be of growing concern to Khamenei and his inner circle.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 09:11 AM (NpAcC)

301 249Even Republicans are getting upset about this, and mouthing off: "I thought you were going after Rapists, Murderers, and Mexican Gang Members."

Hey Repubs: you brought Trump to the party. Now suffer, as we all told you that you would.

He's intimidating Voters. Where is the Democratic leadership?? Point out that the red states have more crime!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 08:56 AM (JCZqz)

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Dude said repeatedly, "Biggest mass deportation operation in history." History includes Operation Wetback.

A couple of Republicans are saying frustrated things, but it's honestly quite limited.

Also...how is he intimidating voters? Unless illegal immigrants are voters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:11 AM (GBKbO)

302 At the BEE:

Do You Have Experience In Nuclear Engineering? Check Out These Exciting New Job Openings In Iran

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 09:12 AM (gbOdA)

303 What a disappointment that f*cker was
____

His biggest accomplishment was turning terrorists into a 2 syllable word.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 09:12 AM (Dv3i1)

304 I'll have you know Sheboygan was one of the touring places of the Kenosha Kickers, Wisconsin's premiere polka band!
Posted by: Gus Polinski at June 17, 2025 08:16 AM (qBdHI)
>>>>>>>
Ah yes, who can forget the beautiful strains of the "I Don't Want Her, You Can Take Her, She Can't Stuff the Kielbasa Polka."

Posted by: Polka will never die at June 17, 2025 09:12 AM (NZ3mj)

305 The only Trump voters I know who aren't happy, are the ones who say he isn't deporting them fast enough.

I'm a Trump voter and am upset that there's been exactly zero arrests for all the treason committed over the last decade.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)

306 294 One of the more frustrating things GWB said was there were "jobs Americans just won't do."

That and "Islam is a religion of peace."

What a disappointment that f*cker was.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:09 AM (Zz0t1)

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"Americans won't work in my meatpacking plant using 1970s tech and methods for $20,000 a year. There's no way I can compete with modern meatpacking competition. Cry for me."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:12 AM (GBKbO)

307 Basically, they have no clue what the pre-Columbian Americas were like, have completely fabricated much of their beliefs and that's no reason to change their minds.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

-

Think of what a PITA it would be to change all the textbooks and try to get K-12 teachers to understand the topic.

It's not hard to see why new discoveries are smothered in the crib.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:13 AM (+vtNx)

308 >>"Well shit......"

- - - -- The DNC

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IF THEY DENY THAT THIS IS DUE TO CRIMINAL ALIEN DEPORTATIONS, THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO CREDIT TRUMP, BONDI AND PATEL.

Posted by: ben roethlisberger at June 17, 2025 09:13 AM (72zuV)

309 Is the under/ over on leading Iranian general's lifespan post appointment now 4days.? George Meade took over the army four days before Gettysburg, that worked out for the Union. Doubtful for the Iranians

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 09:14 AM (akw+7)

310
"Americans won't work in my meatpacking plant using 1970s tech and methods for $20,000 a year. There's no way I can compete with modern meatpacking competition. Cry for me."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:12 AM (GBKbO)

"Don't cry for me, meatpackah'"

- - - - - Elite-a

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:14 AM (Zz0t1)

311 Appropos of nothing, I always thought it strange that the U-2 pilot shot down over the Soviet Union is always and ever referred to by his full name, like a criminal - “Francis Gary Powers”. I highly doubt he was called Francis. He probably went by Gary, or maybe Frank.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2025 09:16 AM (t7UuU)

312 Three months out even looking at places in the sticks.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:08 AM (+vtNx)

I have been trying to get an appointment for months. They literally do not exist. It's not anything more than an irritating reminder of how fucked up NJ is, because I have a passport and a Global Entry card.

But it is such a pathetic state.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 09:16 AM (L5An7)

313 Think of what a PITA it would be to change all the textbooks and try to get K-12 teachers to understand the topic.
____

I've been reading how muslim piracy in the Med contributed to the suffering in Europe in the early medieval period due to cutting off the extensive trade established by the Roman empire. That wasn't taught it school.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 17, 2025 09:16 AM (Dv3i1)

314 310 "Don't cry for me, meatpackah'"

- - - - - Elite-a
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:14 AM (Zz0t1)

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Essentially, it seems like illegal, under market labor is there to support industry players that would have otherwise died out because of competition.

Meatpacking can be done with minimal manual labor. It just requires a very large capital investment in the modern technologies. If you're only limping along because you're essentially breaking rules to minimize cost without updating equipment...you're a company on the bubble anyway and should probably be met with some creative destruction in the marketplace.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:16 AM (GBKbO)

315 Why are the mullahs not just hanging out in the middle of a hospital or somewhere else among human shields?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 09:16 AM (ITkJX)

316 Ah yes, who can forget the beautiful strains of the "I Don't Want Her, You Can Take Her, She Can't Stuff the Kielbasa Polka."
Posted by: Polka will never die

Jimmy Sturr, 18 time Grammy winner, is 83 years old. Who is gonna fill his shoes?

Posted by: Polka Barb at June 17, 2025 09:17 AM (G5+As)

317 Saw a picture of a supposed fighter jet shot down by the Iranians. If you're to believe the photo with all the people swarming around it, the plane was the biggest f*cking thing ever to fly.

It was quite hysterical.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:17 AM (Zz0t1)

318 259 The only thing more annoying than the phony conservative act of Massie is that there is a constituency that slurps up his televangelist-style hucksterism as authentic.

Unfortunately, mindless credulity is not exclusive to the left.

Posted by: We have NPCs just not anywhere near as many at June 17, 2025 09:17 AM (TbWk/)

319 307 Basically, they have no clue what the pre-Columbian Americas were like, have completely fabricated much of their beliefs and that's no reason to change their minds.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

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Think of what a PITA it would be to change all the textbooks and try to get K-12 teachers to understand the topic.

It's not hard to see why new discoveries are smothered in the crib.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:13 AM (+vtNx)

Current textbooks would become obsolete. PhD's who shot-down The Former Consensus will make money writing the new textbooks. As always, Follow The Money.

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:18 AM (aBgBM)

320 Why are the mullahs not just hanging out in the middle of a hospital or somewhere else among human shields?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 09:16 AM (ITkJX)

I figured they'd all be in Kuwait by now.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:18 AM (Zz0t1)

321 "As Deportations Rise, The U.S. Is On Track For The Lowest Murder Rate On Record"

This reminds me of Trump's first admin, where jobs started coming back, but countless millions had left the workforce, discouraged, during the Obama years, and they aren't counted as unemployed. So the unemployment numbers were super low. You could even legit say that low Trump numbers were partly due to Obama - because he drove so many out of the job market. Using their own tricks against them.

With THIS stat, Blue cities stopped reporting murders, so now as the murder rate drops it's supposedly the lowest ever. Yeah, it's undoubtedly lower, but they're undoubtedly STILL not reporting a lot of it, so I'm not so sure the REAL number is the lowest EVER.

Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 09:18 AM (hOOi9)

322 Damn. Those black boxes dug up in Antarctica are freaking me out.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 17, 2025 09:18 AM (pohLc)

323
Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
FBI Director Chris Wray in September, 2020 when asked about foreign interference in the election:

“Russia may be interfering to denigrate Joe Biden.”

He said this WHILE COVERING UP DOCUMENTS detailing the CCP plan to make fake IDs for fraudulent mail-in ballots for Joe Biden.

https://tinyurl.com/4j4vv3ef

Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 09:19 AM (NpAcC)

324 318 259 The only thing more annoying than the phony conservative act of Massie is that there is a constituency that slurps up his televangelist-style hucksterism as authentic.

Unfortunately, mindless credulity is not exclusive to the left.
Posted by: We have NPCs just not anywhere near as many at June 17, 2025 09:17 AM (TbWk/)

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Dude voted to raise the debt ceiling in 2023.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:19 AM (GBKbO)

325 "Americans won't work in my meatpacking plant using 1970s tech and methods for $20,000 a year. There's no way I can compete with modern meatpacking competition. Cry for me."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:12 AM (GBKbO)

"Nobody wants to work anymore!"

Posted by: Boomer meatpacking plant owner at June 17, 2025 09:19 AM (TbWk/)

326
“Russia may be interfering to denigrate Joe Biden.”

He said this WHILE COVERING UP DOCUMENTS detailing the CCP plan to make fake IDs for fraudulent mail-in ballots for Joe Biden.

https://tinyurl.com/4j4vv3ef
Posted by: redridinghood at June 17, 2025 09:19 AM (NpAcC)

My anger in the lack of arrests for treason grows by the minute.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:19 AM (Zz0t1)

327 321 "As Deportations Rise, The U.S. Is On Track For The Lowest Murder Rate On Record"
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The correct formulation is "Despite Rise in Deportations, The U.S. Is On Track For The Lowest Murder Rate On Record"

Do better.

Posted by: AP Style Guide at June 17, 2025 09:19 AM (Dv3i1)

328 Wo's the guy in the pic up top?

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:20 AM (77rzZ)

329 you're a company on the bubble anyway and should probably be met with some creative destruction in the marketplace.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 09:16 AM (GBKbO)

Schumpeter was a filthy commie!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 09:20 AM (L5An7)

330 Seems like Israel is doing fine on its own vs Iran. No need for US involvement.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 09:20 AM (/CkK4)

331 It's not anything more than an irritating reminder of how fucked up NJ is, because I have a passport and a Global Entry card.
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Yep. Setting aside that the stupid thing shouldn't exist at all, one can't help but notice that Americans have to take a birth certificate, passport, etc. to the DMV so S'haniqua can look at them and give you a real ID, but Americans can't simply take the same documents to the airport to show them to the S'haniqua working there.

Government at its finest.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:20 AM (+vtNx)

332 I'm a Trump voter and am upset that there's been exactly zero arrests for all the treason committed over the last decade.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)

Same here.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 09:20 AM (Dg2sF)

333 China is simply entering a lucrative market - fake IDs for teens. Teens can buy them online and they get a really good fake ID straight from China. The teen provides the picture and the state in need; China does the rest.
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Twenty years ago they did that. I had three teens with unbelievably good fake ID's, from China

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 17, 2025 09:21 AM (tAZYd)

334 317 Saw a picture of a supposed fighter jet shot down by the Iranians. If you're to believe the photo with all the people swarming around it, the plane was the biggest f*cking thing ever to fly.

It was quite hysterical.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:17 AM (Zz0t1)

Also, it does not have the correct Israeli filled-in Star of David national ID emblem on the wing. Must be taboo in Iran to display a Star of David or its outline.

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:21 AM (aBgBM)

335 330 Seems like Israel is doing fine on its own vs Iran. No need for US involvement.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 09:20 AM (/CkK4)

They need our bunker busters and the aircraft to deliver them.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 17, 2025 09:21 AM (pohLc)

336 >>The correct formulation is "Despite Rise in Deportations, The U.S. Is On Track For The Lowest Murder Rate On Record"

Do better.

Right???

Posted by: Fox Butterfield, 'crime drops despite record incarcerations' at June 17, 2025 09:22 AM (72zuV)

337 Basically, they have no clue what the pre-Columbian Americas were like, have completely fabricated much of their beliefs and that's no reason to change their minds.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

IKR?
-- Kennewick Man

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:22 AM (77rzZ)

338 Wo's the guy in the pic up top?
Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:20 AM (77rzZ)

Raskin.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:22 AM (Zz0t1)

339
They need our bunker busters and the aircraft to deliver them.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 17, 2025 09:21 AM (pohLc)

Not happening

Posted by: Super conservative Massie... at June 17, 2025 09:22 AM (VE6XX)

340 China is simply entering a lucrative market - fake IDs for teens. Teens can buy them online and they get a really good fake ID straight from China. The teen provides the picture and the state in need; China does the rest.
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Twenty years ago they did that. I had three teens with unbelievably good fake ID's, from China
Posted by: Huck Follywood

*Bouncer at door of club

"Hello Lonald Lider"

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:23 AM (PfGa7)

341 With THIS stat, Blue cities stopped reporting murders, so now as the murder rate drops it's supposedly the lowest ever. Yeah, it's undoubtedly lower, but they're undoubtedly STILL not reporting a lot of it, so I'm not so sure the REAL number is the lowest EVER.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 09:18 AM (hOOi9)

I think this is valid for other types of crime like car theft, burglary, assault, etc. it’s easy to not report those. But murder? I doubt even in the deepest blue cities the police doesn’t record when someone is killed.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 17, 2025 09:23 AM (/CkK4)

342 My anger in the lack of arrests for treason grows by the minute.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:19 AM (Zz0t1)

Might want to lower your expectations, brother. I'd comfortably wager a healthy amount of money that we won't ever see a single occurrence.

Posted by: Doof at June 17, 2025 09:23 AM (B5+rm)

343 Current textbooks would become obsolete. PhD's who shot-down The Former Consensus will make money writing the new textbooks. As always, Follow The Money.
Posted by: Gref

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You're talking about a generation of people who don't want to come to the office. They see that and think "Man, that sounds like a lot of work."

But yes, follow the money was my point, too.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:23 AM (+vtNx)

344 There's a lot of faked imagery coming out of Iran. Short videos of AA fire taking down what they claim is an Israeli warplane is actually footage from DCS.

The editing of some of this is hysterical.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 17, 2025 09:24 AM (Q4IgG)

345 Saw a picture of a supposed fighter jet shot down by the Iranians. If you're to believe the photo with all the people swarming around it, the plane was the biggest f*cking thing ever to fly.

It was quite hysterical.
Posted by: Sponge
+++
I saw that one too. Also the ground around it looked completely undisturbed. Seems like it would have to slide to a stop. Unlikely that it fell straight down and just stuck there.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 17, 2025 09:24 AM (Lo97M)

346 Basically, they have no clue what the pre-Columbian Americas were like, have completely fabricated much of their beliefs and that's no reason to change their minds.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Weren't they Mormons?

Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2025 09:24 AM (aBgBM)

347 That's terrible:

On Friday, the only door that opened was the one back to his cell.

Mahmoud Khalil, Columbia’s most litigious Gaza sympathizer, had seemingly triumphed in federal court—only to find himself right back where he started.

Down in Louisiana, where the alligators grow so mean.

After days of breathless media coverage and a headline-generating injunction questioning the legality of Mahmoud Khalil’s detention, Judge Michael Farbiarz quietly reversed course.

In a terse, two-page order, he declined to release Khalil after all. The reason? The government had landed on firmer legal ground: Khalil allegedly lied on his visa application. And under the law, that alone is enough.

So much for the First Amendment showdown.
So much for judicial scrutiny of Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s motives.

No need for sweeping declarations or a walking tour through the mind of Laurence Tribe. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 17, 2025 09:25 AM (72zuV)

348 There's a lot of faked imagery coming out of Iran. Short videos of AA fire taking down what they claim is an Israeli warplane is actually footage from DCS.

The editing of some of this is hysterical.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

30' tall pilot & 180' long plane.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:25 AM (PfGa7)

349 They need our bunker busters and the aircraft to deliver them.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 17, 2025 09:21 AM (pohLc)
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I am not yet convinced that the US will directly participate in any way in attacking Iran.

Assistance, yes. Attack, no. Anyhoo, won't be long till we find out.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 09:28 AM (n+rGF)

350 Down in Louisiana, where the alligators grow so mean.

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It funny that I always think of the Ray Wylie Hubbard song about the stripper that references this line instead of the original when I hear that.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 09:29 AM (+vtNx)

351
Assistance, yes. Attack, no. Anyhoo, won't be long till we find out.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 09:28 AM (n+rGF)

I'm leaning your way on this

Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2025 09:29 AM (VE6XX)

352 The engine being in full burner mode after crashing is the first tell.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 17, 2025 09:29 AM (Y1sOo)

353 Art is nood

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 09:30 AM (PfGa7)

354 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:30 AM (Zz0t1)

355 334 317 Saw a picture of a supposed fighter jet shot down by the Iranians. If you're to believe the photo with all the people swarming around it, the plane was the biggest f*cking thing ever to fly.

It was quite hysterical.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 17, 2025 09:17 AM (Zz0t1)

The pilot would have had to have been 20' tall! And one of the best parts of it was a bunch of matchbox sized cars down in the lower corner.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (uWKK8)

356 Noodus gratia artis

Posted by: Bulg at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (77rzZ)

357 Assistance, yes. Attack, no. Anyhoo, won't be long till we find out.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 09:28 AM (n+rGF)

Stick around for my Morning Rant!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 09:31 AM (L5An7)

358 FBI Director Kash Patel dropped a bombshell Monday evening, handing Congress an intelligence report that raises serious questions about China’s role in the 2020 election. According to the report, Chinese operatives mass-produced counterfeit U.S. driver’s licenses as part of a broader scheme to flood the system with fake mail-in ballots—benefiting… you guessed it… Joe Biden.

Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2025 09:37 AM (NHj0Y)

359 Ole Glenn Beck skinned a lot of these lizards before he went wobbly. We are in debt to him and should treat him kindly.

Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2025 09:43 AM (LHPAg)

360 Ted Cruz wrote the Amicus in the Heller case that was used by the SCOTUS as the basis for their ruling. In other words, he has an actual history of supporting our 2A rights.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at June 17, 2025 10:06 AM (Da7Vv)

361 Nothing to add on Zorastrianism, founded 6th century BC, monotheistic, not usually aggressive and murdery... Many think the Three Wise Men were Zoroastrians.

But interesting to note that the alternate pronunciation of Zoroaster is Zarathustra, as in the symphonic piece.

Posted by: Old Toby at June 17, 2025 10:06 AM (W23tn)

362 My company just sent out a broadcast email to all of us that they have now activated the company's AI interface and we are all to learn how to use it as it rapidly makes our jobs obsolete. That, of course, is the subtext. I am glad I am a lady of a certain age because I don't think I'm going to like this Brave New World. That has no people in it.

Posted by: Beverly at June 17, 2025 10:11 AM (Epeb0)

363 Good morning, all, and thanks, J.J.

>From above, "Despite ‘No Kings Day’ Protests, Obama Boasts That He Ruled by Edict, Defied Law and Congress"
(As did the POTATO, and they'll be damned if it'll change.)
Also, "The Summer of Cloward-Piven"

The REAL reasons for No Kings day on June 14th: They have their forever King & a plan to 'govern' & aren't hiding it. (But, imo, they do suffer the Trump administrations to come in to do a tad of clean up before they elbow back in.)

Barack Obama on X
Thirteen years ago, my administration acted to protect young people who were American in every single way but one: on paper.

DACA was an example of how we can be a nation of immigrants and a nation of laws. And it’s an example worth remembering today, when families with similar backgrounds who just want to live, work, and support their communities, are being demonized and treated as enemies.

We can fix our broken immigration system while still recognizing our common humanity and treating each other with dignity and respect. In fact, it’s the only way we ever will. · Jun 15, 2025

What a fraud. The Netflix face of government, like pal Zelensky.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (NFX2v)

364 >US Senator Tim Kaine (gov)
Kaine Announces the Filing of a War Powers Resolution to Prevent War with Iran, 1 day ago (This is all over the msm now.)

The Jewish Virtual Library Org, a project of AICE (which is The American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise) Tim Kaine (1958 - ) Copyrighted 1998-2015 American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise

Note references & reference dates, below, on Tim Kaine & his political leanings regarding US-Israel Relationship; Iran; Hamas and the Situation in Gaza; Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and ISIS:

Forward, March 13, 2015; The Washington Post, August 4, 2015; the Times of Israel, July 23, 2016; Breaking Israel News, July 24, 2016; J Street, July 22, 2016; Roll Call, July 22, 2016; The Hill, August 27, 2014 and, of course, the Tim Kaine Biography, July 27, 2016.

Interesting. Why?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (NFX2v)

365 >11Alive dot com: Federal COVID injury program denies 98% of claims, leaving Georgia families fighting to be recognized, posted minutes ago

"A metro Atlanta widow says the federal government promised help after COVID-19 changed her life, but four years later, she's still fighting for compensation."

>Found that Congressional Research Service has prepared a paper for Congress entitled, 'Compensation for COVID Vaccine Injuries,' CRS Product Type: Reports Topics: Health Care; Homeland Security & Emergency Management, Publication Date: 04/16/2025; Authors: Hickey, Kevin J.; Rogers, Hannah-Alise

It wasn't RJK Jr's fault but wouldn't count that as a lasting political position.

There's always the turn of the screw in Congress.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 10:14 AM (NFX2v)

366 Islam is a death cult. Or at best, fuel for a death cult mentality. People in the West view religion in terms of Christianity, but that's simply not the case with the rest of the world.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 17, 2025 10:15 AM (ERYKL)

367 Glad Israel is doing so well. They obviously don't need our involvement. Maybe since Pakistan has nukes Israel will target them next? Nothing makes sense anymore.

Posted by: agape realm at June 17, 2025 10:38 AM (L1kkj)

368 Hey, these old eyes have a LOT of trouble reading these captions on your lead-in graphics!! What a mess!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 17, 2025 10:51 AM (PQOq3)

369 In 2016, Ted Cruz addressed a group of us in NYC (FOA East). We were then mostly his supporters in the campaign, and he got a rock-star welcome.

Then he started talking. He said we need to shut down illegal immigration (cheers, applause). THEN he said, "We need to fix our broken immigration system, and raise the Legal immigration quota from 1 million annually to FIVE MILLION." (Silence, dismay)

That's where I spied 'im, there's where I smelt him out. Not a fan since then. Because if you run the numbers on that insane idea, America would be overrun by aliens in five years.

Posted by: Beverly at June 17, 2025 10:56 AM (Epeb0)

370 More snow, lower temperatures, four black sarcophagi, and strange radio signals.
What Exactly is Going on in Antarctica?

No photos
Refs back to AI edited article on "news" site I've never heard of
Single original source
No pics
Unsubstantiated claims, e.g. high energy storage--how was that tested?

I call bullsh*t.

Posted by: Chuck Todd at June 17, 2025 11:06 AM (ynpvh)

371 And off sock

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 17, 2025 11:07 AM (ynpvh)

372 If we believe that Iran can't get nukes then regime change is the only game in town, isn't it?

Give the IDF the time, bombs and ramp up the 'Mullah's out' talk and see what happens first but eventually the rewards might outweigh the risks on this one, especially if the Israeli's clear the way.

Posted by: stv at June 17, 2025 12:23 PM (+opPw)

373 There are other ways to take out the Fordow facility besides blasting through 3,000 feet of rock.

- There have to be surface points of ingress & egress, and for the ventilation system to work. Block those, and you'll entomb and suffocate the folks working down there.

- Tossing out Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and his gang could open up the facility for (very interested!) third parties to see to its dismantlement. Ought to cave the thing in, too, just on GP to keep it from being used again.

Infiltration to the facility, since Israel seems to have seeded quite a few agents and sympathizers across the whole of the regime, would also work. Remember Stuxnet? That alone could disable the whole plant.

And probably a few others that I'm not bright enough to imagine.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 17, 2025 12:55 PM (bufu1)

Daily Tech News 17 June 2025

Top Story

Intel's rumoured next-next generation Nova Lake processors have been rumoured again. (WCCFTech)

Albeit with more details this time.

The top of the line Core 9 model will reportedly include 16 performance cores, 32 efficiency cores, and 4 low-power efficiency cores.

Which would be a lot.

The next models down would be the Core 7, with 14 P-cores, 24 E-cores, and 4 LPE-cores.

However, both would use a base power of 150W, meaning - this being Intel - in reality they would run at more like 300W.

Which is also a lot.

They would also - according to a separate rumour - provide 32 PCIe 5.0 lanes and 16 PCIe 4.0 lanes.

Not counting the PCIe 5.0 connection from the CPU to the chipset.

The CPU provides the same number of I/O lanes - at the same speed - as AMD's current chips. But the chipset does a lot better than AMD, providing 24 total PCIe 5.0 and 4.0 lanes, against AMD's 870E which uses two chips to provide just 12 PCIe 4.0 lanes.

Oh, and DDR5-8000 memory.

Tech News

Why AI is not helpful for coders. (Miguel Gringberg)

Except for simple things like type-ahead, which has gotten a lot better.
An AI tool can only resemble an intern with anterograde amnesia, which would be a bad kind of intern to have. For every new task this "AI intern" resets back to square one without having learned a thing!
Until you throw it out the window.
Facebook's Threads app has a new feature: Spoiler tags. (The Verge)

Straight out of 1996.
TSMC reports yields of 60% on its new 2nm process node. (WCCFTech)

That's good, by the way. Means 60% of chips fabricated are good enough to use, before harvesting half-good dies for lower-end parts. AMD's 8 core and 6 core parts are identical, but the cheaper 6 core chips allow them to re-use 8 core chips with one or two production flaws.

Educational Interlude

Musical Interlude

Song is Sharada by Skye Sweetnam. Anime is of course The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.

Disclaimer: If you leave a DVD in your player long enough, it will turn into a random volume of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. Established fact.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:37 AM

Comments

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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 04:37 AM (n+rGF)

2 w00t

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:38 AM (CQE5S)

3 Hey!

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:38 AM (CQE5S)

4 Woop
Marnin all

Posted by: OkJohn at June 17, 2025 04:39 AM (NC/it)

5 >>Anime is of course The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.

of course

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:41 AM (CQE5S)

6 Anime still, looks like they're doing a cover of "Stop! In the Name of Love."

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:42 AM (CQE5S)

7
Good morning, good people, from the lush green Adirondacks. Been a wet Spring and the lawns show it. The yard people are all smiley.

So, may all effort from you good people result in benefit to you and the normal major heartburn for the leftwit fungi.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 17, 2025 04:51 AM (hKoQL)

8 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. 58 cloudy degrees here at Stately Poppins Manor. I can still hear an owl hooting away somewhere in the neighborhood, but the sun will be up soon, so he or she will be taking off in a bit.

Rain is supposed to be here later today, but who knows? I'm going to be napping the day away after work anyway.

Lost a friend to TDS last week. At least, I thought he was a friend, but if it can come to an end over Teh Donald, then it really wasn't a friendship at all, was it? No time right now to elaborate; I might later on.

Bought a book called The Self-Esteem Workbook over the weekend. Not really helpful - at least not for me. I can't get past my inborn cynicism and depression to objectively answer any of its questions.

A couple of hours' work ahead, so will talk to you all later. Perhaps.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 04:52 AM (Dg2sF)

9 "anterograde" new word

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:52 AM (CQE5S)

10 Mornin' Horde.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 17, 2025 04:52 AM (O7YUW)

11 8 Lost a friend to TDS last week. At least, I thought he was a friend, but if it can come to an end over Teh Donald, then it really wasn't a friendship at all, was it? No time right now to elaborate; I might later on.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 04:52 AM (Dg2sF)

I'd love to hear it.

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:53 AM (CQE5S)

12 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 04:53 AM (sAmhv)

13 other antero- words:

anterolateral
anteroposterior

and for lulz

anteroom

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:55 AM (CQE5S)

14 In God's eyes we are enough. Psalm 107:1-9

God is loving and kind to those who are distressed

https://tinyurl.com/37vebnfk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 05:06 AM (Qb4mU)

15
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 17, 2025 05:12 AM (tljrc)

16 Older brothers sing an old spiritual from the 1800's:

"Give me that old time religion":

https://tinyurl.com/4fk533hn

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 05:12 AM (Qb4mU)

17 chick in the video is so off-putting

Posted by: donotwant at June 17, 2025 05:14 AM (8vyLI)

18 She's actually an expert in lost and forgotten pigments. Does a lot of videos like this one, and spends a lot of time in protective gear showing off extremely poisonous 19th century oil paints.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 17, 2025 05:17 AM (BLOW1)

19 I'd love to hear it.
Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:53 AM (CQE5S)

I've known him for several years. We're both history and Beatle buffs and have exchanged many gifts.

I was in the local last Thursday when he came in, glared at me, then went to look for a seat. I asked, "Is something wrong?" to which he answered, "You're goddamn right something's wrong!"

Now, I piss off people just by existing, so I thought I must have done something bad and asked him what it was I had done.

"Do you like what's happening? Are you proud of this country?" he snarled. I told him that yes, I was proud of the country, to which he told me to get away before he did something, implying a violent reaction.

He really hurt me, because I thought we were friends. What was he pissed off about? ICE? No Kings? Padilla? I don't know and haven't been in contact. If he apologizes, I'll accept, but I will tell him how much he hurt me over something so stupid.

But I don't expect an apology or to see him again. And people wonder why I am co cynical.

Anyway, back to work.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 05:18 AM (Dg2sF)

20 Some of those pop songs edited into anime videos are pretty good. Some are very good. One was posted here months ago that I saved.

youtu.be/iIAEqTvygb8

The song and video seem to fit. I'm not familiar with Arcade Fire and have no idea about the anime (looks good). It's a very well done video.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 05:21 AM (sAmhv)

21 Oh yes. I like that one a lot better than the official video for Everything Now.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 17, 2025 05:22 AM (BLOW1)

22 Thanks Fen.
Enough, wonderful concept.

Posted by: OkJohn at June 17, 2025 05:24 AM (NC/it)

23 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 05:28 AM (PfGa7)

24 Posted by: OkJohn at June 17, 2025 05:24 AM (NC/it

You are most welcome. OkJohn. May you have a blessed day and may you and all here know that they are a blessing to others.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 05:30 AM (2GCMq)

25 Anime is of course The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.

I wanted to like it. After all the main star was Kotoha in Lucky Star. But I couldn't even finish one season before I gave up.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 05:31 AM (BpO1e)

26 Amen

Posted by: OkJohn at June 17, 2025 05:31 AM (NC/it)

27 Lost a friend to TDS last week. At least, I thought he was a friend, but if it can come to an end over Teh Donald, then it really wasn't a friendship at all, was it? No time right now to elaborate; I might later on.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 04:52 AM (Dg2sF)

I'd love to hear it.
Posted by: m

What's that saying?

Shaka, and the masks fell.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 05:31 AM (PfGa7)

28 "Oh, and DDR5-8000 memory."

Or, as border guards in East Germany once used to say, "Velkomm to de DDR."

Evening and morning, all! 'Tis Tiu's Day again. I'm up, sipping coffee, preparing to feed the felines, and making ready for my road trip today to Jackson, MS. Why there? The Country Squire, a rare full-speed tobacconist, is located there. They offer a lot of name brand pipe tobaccos, a bunch of their own blends (I've tried and loved one, and want to obtain more of it), pre-owned pipes and new ones, etc. Plus, you know, road trip!

I could have gone on Saturday, but I thought the NoKangz Day would not be a good time to be traveling around.

Miss Linda is excited. She can come over in the early afternoon and spoil the cats. She says she and Stirling will smoke catnip and invite all the neighborhood ferals in for a wild party. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2025 05:38 AM (omVj0)

29 What's that saying?

Shaka, and the masks fell.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 05:31 AM (PfGa7)

Never trust a masked Zulu.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 05:39 AM (ExV1e)

30 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 05:18 AM (Dg2sF)
-

Too bad you weren't wired up by James O'Keefe before the meeting.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 05:40 AM (n+rGF)

31 Lost a friend to TDS last week. At least, I thought he was a friend, but if it can come to an end over Teh Donald, then it really wasn't a friendship at all, was it? No time right now to elaborate; I might later on.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025

***
It's why I carefully have not brought up politics or Trump at all to my oldest friend, with whom I'm talking again for the first time in some years. I don't want to find he has TDS. He's said he's "been watching a *lot* of news," which is not a good sign. He's undergoing surgery for a pinched nerve in his neck; discussing such topics would be out in any case..

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2025 05:41 AM (omVj0)

32 19 I'd love to hear it.
Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:53 AM (CQE5S)

I've known him for several years. We're both history and Beatle buffs and have exchanged many gifts.

I was in the local last Thursday when he came in, glared at me, then went to look for a seat. I asked, "Is something wrong?" to which he answered, "You're goddamn right something's wrong!"

Now, I piss off people just by existing, so I thought I must have done something bad and asked him what it was I had done.

"Do you like what's happening? Are you proud of this country?" he snarled. I told him that yes, I was proud of the country, to which he told me to get away before he did something, implying a violent reaction.

He really hurt me, because I thought we were friends. What was he pissed off about? ICE? No Kings? Padilla? I don't know and haven't been in contact. If he apologizes, I'll accept, but I will tell him how much he hurt me over something so stupid.

But I don't expect an apology or to see him again. And people wonder why I am co cynical.

Anyway, back to work.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 05:18 AM (Dg2sF)

Sorry. Thanks.

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 05:45 AM (CQE5S)

33 Senior dog with failing eyesight recognizes his owners voice and excitedly greets him. Sunny Skyz site:

https://tinyurl.com/yc27dczs

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 05:48 AM (u+PLX)

34 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at June 17, 2025 05:48 AM (AN2gy)

35 Unpleasantly hot and damp, even though we had rain yesterday that might have reduced the heat a bit. It did, then. But the high humidity it induced allowed little heat to escape overnight. So we are at 81 F., I Don't Want to Know the Heat Index, high of 88 expected with 70% rain. My road trip may be a trifle wet.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2025 05:49 AM (omVj0)

36 I'll need to shave and shower before I pack my gear. And I want to check the tires and oil before I go. The Buick has never lost a drop of oil between changes, but I always check my cars before any long trip.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2025 05:56 AM (omVj0)

37 Some people insist on filtering every single aspect of human existence through the prism of politics. That way lies madness. Sorry to hear about your friend, MPPP

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 05:57 AM (sAmhv)

38 Sorry to hear, MP4. I haven't had the threats but I've been losing extended family over the current environment.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 06:00 AM (BpO1e)

39 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at June 17, 2025 06:06 AM (lIgBp)

40 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 17, 2025 06:16 AM (hoCmQ)

41 Why AI is not helpful for coders. (Miguel Gringberg)

-

I saw that the joke is now

Artificial Indians

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 06:24 AM (SbtHR)

42 "It's why I carefully have not brought up politics or Trump at all to my oldest friend, with whom I'm talking again for the first time in some years. I don't want to find he has TDS. He's said he's "been watching a *lot* of news," which is not a good sign. He's undergoing surgery for a pinched nerve in his neck; discussing such topics would be out in any case.."

Why should you tolerate someone who cannot tolerate you not hating Trump?

All good things must come to an end. We all change over the years and the you of X years ago isn't quite the same you as now.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at June 17, 2025 06:25 AM (BkdKv)

43 Unusually early good morning, y'all.

Heading down the road soon, an hour's trip to the hospital for an outpatient procedure for MiladyJo. WHY do they insist on 6am surgery? They just do. Hope the surgeon is more awake than I am.

Here's a great short video of a Belgian Malinois. Not our Daisy, but showing off their superpowers.

Posted by: mindful webworker - rise and shiiiine at June 17, 2025 06:26 AM (agX+n)

44 He really hurt me, because I thought we were friends. What was he pissed off about? ICE? No Kings? Padilla? I don't know and haven't been in contact. If he apologizes, I'll accept, but I will tell him how much he hurt me over something so stupid.

-

Sorry MP4.

I used to think COVID was mainly about the medical industry. I'm beginning to appreciate that it was also an op to normalize hatred at other Americans who have different opinions and beliefs than you.

We're seeing the fruits of that psy-op now, and without conscious effort by Americans to remember what being an American is all about it will only continue to get worse.

I assume that means it is only going to get worse.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 06:29 AM (SbtHR)

45 MPPPP,

You might want to read Walker Percy's "Lost in the Cosmos: the Last Self-Help Book."

We can't fix ourselves. We can't see ourselves as we really are.

But there is Hope.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 06:30 AM (ZmEVT)

46 I clicked on the video with the chick with the diamonds and YT has decided to do something I’ve never seen before:

“! Sign-in to confirm you’re not a bot
This helps to protect our community”

What in the Wide World of Sports is going on around here?

Never had to sign in to watch an embedded YouTube video in the entire 20 years I’ve been watching embedded YT videos.

Are hackers using embedded videos to wreak havoc on the YT community lately or something?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 06:32 AM (6ydKt)

47 I lost all my Liberal friends over the years. All my friends now are conservative.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 06:32 AM (ZmEVT)

48 The anime song video just did the same thing.

To quote Rachel Zeigler…

“Weird, weird, WEIRD.”

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 06:33 AM (6ydKt)

49 This Karen is in tears because someone farted

I am not making this up

https://x.com/iAnonPatriot/status/
1934667187731488977

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 06:34 AM (AOsQT)

50 Here's a great short video of a Belgian Malinois. Not our Daisy, but showing off their superpowers.
Posted by: mindful webworker - rise and shiiiine at June 17, 2025 06:26 AM (agX+n)

I think you forgot the link?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 06:36 AM (6ydKt)

51 Facebook's Threads app has a new feature: Spoiler tags. (The Verge)

Straight out of 1996.

-

Yep. And it's hilarious that we've got flip-phones, walkmans, and people riding in buses again.

Full circle.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 06:36 AM (SbtHR)

52 G'mornin' everyone!

"And people wonder why I am co cynical. "

not me, MP4.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 06:36 AM (/Ghsb)

53 What link? Yeah, try again. Not enough coffee brain.

Here's a great short video of a Belgian Malinois. Not our Daisy, but showing off their superpowers.

https://iotwreport.com/not-a-couch-potato/

Posted by: mindful webworker - rise and shiiiine at June 17, 2025 06:39 AM (agX+n)

54 mindful - oh, the surgeon will be quite awake.
I think of getting the earliest slot as good luck; first patient of the day, surgeon & staff at their best.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 06:39 AM (/Ghsb)

55 This Karen is in tears because someone farted

I am not making this up

https://x.com/iAnonPatriot/status/
1934667187731488977
Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 06:34 AM (AOsQT)

He apparently farted in her general direction, though.

She said she has a wife so she probably thinks she was being harassed/assaulted for being a lesbian.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 06:42 AM (6ydKt)

56 Make people mad by existing? That’s the enemy trying to get you down.

“He rescued me because he delighted in me.” Ps 18:19

Praying the spirit shows you that for yourself.

Posted by: H at June 17, 2025 06:43 AM (2gjbv)

57 What in the Wide World of Sports is going on around here?

I suspect that "bots" is an excuse that YT is using to try and get people to create accounts as an ooch approach to getting them to pay for YT access.

The "prove you're not a bot" BS goes away after an hour or so.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 06:45 AM (ExV1e)

58 mornin yall. In local news, a woman who's mom has been arrested 16 times is protesting the Sheriff's office posting booking photos online. To tell the truth, I'm kind of tired of seeing pictures of her mom too.

Posted by: fd at June 17, 2025 06:48 AM (vFG9F)

59 However, both would use a base power of 150W, meaning - this being Intel - in reality they would run at more like 300W.

Yikes. Did Qualcomm help Intel design the Nova lake CPU? Intel will sell boatloads to these because they are Intel. However, it seems to me Intel is running out of road here rapidly to get their act together. The next generation of Qualcomm X Elite CPUs will help emphasize this along with Microsoft 's continuing move towards ARM.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 06:48 AM (NXz8h)

60 What link? Yeah, try again. Not enough coffee brain.

Here's a great short video of a Belgian Malinois. Not our Daisy, but showing off their superpowers.

https://iotwreport.com/not-a-couch-potato/
Posted by: mindful webworker - rise and shiiiine at June 17, 2025 06:39 AM (agX+n)

If that height is measured in cm that dog just jumped up that wall about 14.75 feet (450 cm).

Impressive.

No wonder the military & police love Belgian Malinois so much.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 06:49 AM (6ydKt)

61
Good morning, Hordians.

Got my ChemDraw CD delivered yesterday. To my astonishment, considering it was a used version, it actually installed with no problem. And it works! Another step taken on the path of The Stupidest Thing I've Ever Done.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 06:52 AM (QnmlO)

62 I suspect that "bots" is an excuse that YT is using to try and get people to create accounts as an ooch approach to getting them to pay for YT access.

The "prove you're not a bot" BS goes away after an hour or so.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 06:45 AM (ExV1e)

It’s getting to be ridiculous.
I probably spend 30 minutes combined daily just signing in to stuff and doing captchas and 2FAs to get into accounts, watch a video or read an article.

All because of sites wanting to track your every move, bots and hackers.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 06:52 AM (6ydKt)

63 If that height is measured in cm that dog just jumped up that wall about 14.75 feet.

I could do that.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 06:53 AM (NXz8h)

64 "Every seat in the waiting area of Glenn Valley Foods was occupied with people filling out job applications early Thursday afternoon, two days after the meatpacking plant became the center of the largest worksite immigration raid in the state of Nebraska so far this year"

I hope some executives at Glenn Valley Foods feel some real pain.

Posted by: fd at June 17, 2025 06:58 AM (vFG9F)

65 Got my ChemDraw CD delivered yesterday. To my astonishment, considering it was a used version, it actually installed with no problem. And it works! Another step taken on the path of The Stupidest Thing I've Ever Done.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Can a portrait of our fellow traveler, Salty Dog, be far behind?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 07:00 AM (NXz8h)

66 "It's why I carefully have not brought up politics or Trump at all to my oldest friend, with whom I'm talking again for the first time in some years. I don't want to find he has TDS. He's said he's "been watching a *lot* of news," which is not a good sign. . . ."
*
Why should you tolerate someone who cannot tolerate you not hating Trump?

All good things must come to an end. We all change over the years and the you of X years ago isn't quite the same you as now.
Posted by: Richard Cranium at June 17, 2025

***
True, RC. But politics is only a small part of who I am. I was never into such things at all for many many years. C.J. (his name) and I go back to seventh grade, age twelve, and grew up together. He was more my brother than my younger brother was. If trying to restore at least some of that means staying away from certain topics, so be it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2025 07:00 AM (omVj0)

67 If that height is measured in cm that dog just jumped up that wall about 14.75 feet.

I could do that.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 06:53 AM (NXz8h)

The amazing thing is that they don’t even care what happens to them when they have to land after jumping so high.

The people are catching them in the video to prevent them from breaking a leg.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:02 AM (6ydKt)

68 Having my second small cup of coffee; I'm shaved and cleaned and dressed. I'll stop at a diner I know on the old Federal highway for breakfast, then vault across the river and cruise up toward Jackson. There are lots of truck stops and travel centers along the Interstate, so if I need a pit stop, facilities are always there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2025 07:03 AM (omVj0)

69 "It's why I carefully have not brought up politics or Trump at all to my oldest friend, with whom I'm talking again for the first time in some years. I don't want to find he has TDS. He's said he's "been watching a *lot* of news," which is not a good sign. . . ."

-

Wait until you experience the feeling of knowing some tolerant, loving, open-minded person you met would be thrilled if you told them you were gay (or whatever other degeneracy) but you know for a fact they'll never talk to you again when Christianity is brought up.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 07:04 AM (SbtHR)

70
All good things must come to an end. We all change over the years and the you of X years ago isn't quite the same you as now.
Posted by: Richard Cranium at June 17, 2025

I don't keep myself hidden away but neither do I seek to re-establish contact with people from my past. It has nothing to do with them. I look back at the me of that time and feel nothing but the most acute shame. Seeing or talking to them again could only be embarrassing for them and humiliating for me. Though certainly I'd respond to any approach cordially. There's never been one.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2025 07:07 AM (QnmlO)

71 The amazing thing is that they don’t even care what happens to them when they have to land after jumping so high.

Got a tour of the K9 unit at work. The guy was telling us about his Malligator (Which is the word I use for that breed.).

"If I throw this ball off a cliff, he will go after it. He doesn't care."

Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 07:08 AM (BpO1e)

72 I’m convinced most of these ‘regular’ people with severe TDS are basically news junkies who can’t turn off CNN or MSNBC and still believe everything shovel of shit they’re getting from the talking heads on their TV.

Once you leave the corporate news plantation the rage and psychosis subsides eventually.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:08 AM (6ydKt)

73 I can handle disagreements between friends. If you are going to cancel me because of politics, just go right on ahead and do it.

I'm not going to mind my tongue around you. Ever.

Posted by: KwaK! at June 17, 2025 07:09 AM (89Sog)

74 There are lots of truck stops and travel centers along the Interstate, so if I need a pit stop, facilities are always there.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2025 07:03 AM (omVj0)

Try a Buc-ees if they have a location on your route.

I haven’t been to one, but I’m told it’s the best gas station/convenience store known to mankind.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:11 AM (6ydKt)

75
JJ is up

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2025 07:12 AM (gbOdA)

76 "If I throw this ball off a cliff, he will go after it. He doesn't care."
Posted by: NR Pax at June 17, 2025 07:08 AM (BpO1e)

They do appear to be loyal little show-offs with no regard for personal safety.

Perfect soldiers. ;-)

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 07:13 AM (6ydKt)

77 I used to think COVID was mainly about the medical industry. I'm beginning to appreciate that it was also an op to normalize hatred at other Americans who have different opinions and beliefs than you.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 17, 2025 06:29 AM (SbtHR)

Yes- it was a floor wax AND a dessert topping!
Always love your nics!

And, morning, all!

Posted by: sal at June 17, 2025 07:17 AM (f+FmA)

78 Thanks for your thoughts, everyone. As I said, I expect neither apology nor contact, but if anything happens, I'll let you know.

One of the many curses of living in Maskachusetts.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 17, 2025 07:19 AM (Dg2sF)

79 Military mavens, do you see a pattern here?

https://tinyurl.com/2s48nrk5

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 07:25 AM (n+rGF)

80 Try a Buc-ees if they have a location on your route.

I haven’t been to one, but I’m told it’s the best gas station/convenience store known to mankind.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025

***
Only one in MS right now, according to their home page, and it's way in the other direction. But when I drive to Indiana, there is one in Alabama, north of Birmingham, right on my route.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 17, 2025 07:28 AM (omVj0)

81 "True, RC. But politics is only a small part of who I am. I was never into such things at all for many many years. C.J. (his name) and I go back to seventh grade, age twelve, and grew up together. He was more my brother than my younger brother was. If trying to restore at least some of that means staying away from certain topics, so be it."

Well....hold the memories of that childhood near to your heart. Realize that C.J. has free will and can move in directions that you don't wish to go.

Or as we used to say: "Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate."

I got nothing soothing, which fits the nick of course.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at June 17, 2025 07:36 AM (BkdKv)

82 Aurelius - good luck on your trip to Jackson. I live right outside and my wife works there. Weather very overcast as of 7:11.

Posted by: Caf at June 17, 2025 08:12 AM (/+mVZ)

83 Zoroaster sometimes known as Zarathustra was the prophet who founded Zoroastranism.

Ahura Mazda vs Ahriman (which we could correlate to a supreme deity of good vs demon of evil) locked in an eternal struggle

Very important in temples of Ahura Mazda are the sacred flame.

That's all I know

And I think they have psalms/hymns

Ironically closer in spirit to Judaism and Christianity than Islam, imo.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 17, 2025 08:27 AM (Splbu)

84 The article by Miguel Gringberg was a breathe of sanity in a world promoting AI far beyond it's capabilities. As a programmer, I finally felt vindicated that my reluctance to use AI to help me write code wasn't just me being an old man yelling, "Get Off My Lawn!" to the AI bot. Thanks for that link!

Posted by: AlecK at June 17, 2025 10:35 AM (cMlC1)

Monday Overnight Open Thread - June 16, 2025 [Doof]

Howdy Hordelings! Thanks for stopping by the ONT to end your Monday. Please grab a beverage of your choosing, check out the content, and leave some wit and wisdom in the comments.

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Fly the fraudly skies!

Man Convicted of Posing as Flight Attendant to Fly for Free 120 Times

A 35-year-old American man has been found guilty of impersonating a flight attendant at least 120 times in order to avoid having to pay for plane tickets.
Federal prosecutors accused Tirone Alexander of entering the secure area of an airport under false pretenses and committing wire fraud at least 120 times between 2018 and 2024. The 35-year-old man reportedly took advantage of a common airline policy that allows flight attendants and pilots from other airlines to fly for free. Alexander, who allegedly had worked as a flight attendant for regional airlines between 2013 and 2015, would go to various airline websites and check the “flight attendant” option during the online check-in process. The form required applicants to provide their employer, date of hire, and badge number, and Alexander used falsified information that apparently no one bothered to check.

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I'm not crying, you're crying!

Family Thinks Elderly Couple Is Annoyed By Their Loud Party - Then Came The Tears

What began as a lively family birthday celebration at Mama Mia's in Carver, Massachusetts, turned into a deeply touching display of unexpected kindness, leaving diners in tears and reaffirming the profound impact of simple human connection.
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Lindsey's family was celebrating her mother's birthday with a party of thirteen, admittedly making quite a bit of joyous noise. Seated beside them was an elderly couple, and initially, Lindsey's group worried they might be a nuisance.
“We thought they were annoyed by us,” Lindsey recalled. But everything changed when they finished singing “Happy Birthday” to her mom. The woman next to them smiled warmly and said, “It’s my husband’s birthday too.”
Without hesitation, Lindsey’s mom lit a candle in a cupcake and the whole group sang again — this time, for the gentleman named Tony. The impromptu celebration continued as they shared cake with Tony and his wife, who expressed immense gratitude for the unexpected gesture.
Then came the words that lingered with everyone: when Lindsey’s mom told Tony, “We’ll meet here next year,” he softly replied, “I don’t think so.” At the time, no one quite understood the weight of those words.
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"This means more to us than you know. My husband was just diagnosed with cancer, and he's not doing well."

Very nice story. Read the whole thing.

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Dudes being dudes

Father and son combo epic 😎 pic.twitter.com/8WF4QYr7st
— Wholesome Side of 𝕏 (@itsme_urstruly) June 15, 2025

men are simple creatures 😂 pic.twitter.com/SoNZUGsM5f
— Wholesome Side of 𝕏 (@itsme_urstruly) June 15, 2025

Dude testing whether he could get off at this train stop and run to the next train stop pic.twitter.com/vzrelg8YiD
— Dudes Posting Their W’s (@DudespostingWs) June 16, 2025

This is accurate

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DJ Doof - Today In Music History Version
From thisdayinmusic.com

Born on this date in 1958: Patrick Waite, Musical Youth, best remembered for their successful 1982 single 'Pass the Dutchie'

On this date in 1970: Mungo Jerry were at No.1 on the UK singles chart with In The Summertime. It went on to become the best-selling UK single of 1970 spending seven weeks at No.1 and was a hit in 26 other countries

On this date in 1994: Kristen Pfaff best known as the bassist for alternative rock band Hole was found dead in her bathtub due to a heroin overdose aged 26

Also born on this date:
1971: Lesane Parish Crooks who you may know by a different name.

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1 everything

Posted by: Ciampino - need more puns? at June 16, 2025 09:59 PM (sPQoU)

2 2

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2025 09:59 PM (63Dwl)

3 Willowed:

Trump telling everyone to get out of Tehran might be a ploy. It will add to the chaos there.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

Kuwait - Highway of Death.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:00 PM (fab8c)

4 1

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at June 16, 2025 10:00 PM (8r4Hk)

5 Fair winds, Jim SND.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 16, 2025 10:00 PM (0eaVi)

6 dangit

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at June 16, 2025 10:00 PM (8r4Hk)

7 howdy

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at June 16, 2025 10:01 PM (AThW+)

8 Thank you for ONT Doof!

Yay! Kat Timpf is back on Gutfeld.....

See you guys later....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 16, 2025 10:02 PM (QGaXH)

9 We are a video game being watched in Japan. I think they are rooting for us, but.......They hate us and ruined out industrial base while we defended them. They paid nothing.
Look at Youngstown, Detroit...Now look at Beppu and Kobe.

They have buried us and we paid for the whole thing. It's still going on. They pay nothing for our defense of the Gulf.
We are idiots.
No Japanese or Koreans are in harms way. They are just watching.

Remember, we are energy self reliant.
WTF?

Posted by: YANKEE TAXPAYER WITH BUTT HURT at June 16, 2025 10:04 PM (R6Hhu)

10 And so, my friends, we meet again
Our paths crossing in the great intersection of life
Leading and following one another
Like a mighty multi-lane roundabout
And so, my friends, we meet again
Our paths crossing…

Posted by: mindful webworker - picking up where we left off in the previous chapter at June 16, 2025 10:04 PM (agX+n)

11 Thank you for ONT Doof!

Yay! Kat Timpf is back on Gutfeld.....

See you guys later....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 16, 2025 10:02 PM (QGaXH)

Now what are you going to do with the extra drink, Doof?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 16, 2025 10:05 PM (0eaVi)

12 From the Cafe, that shark at 4265 feet - that was just too specific and precise. Guess what, it's 1300 meters. Stupid reporter just did a conversion without thought. Should have said 'below 4200 feet'.

Posted by: Ciampino - need more puns, yes at June 16, 2025 10:06 PM (sPQoU)

13 Doof

Love that last picture. A keeper.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:06 PM (u82oZ)

14 Gee, your balls swell horrific!

Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

https://tinyurl.com/yeym53bu

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 10:06 PM (2yoRf)

15 No blah blah blah

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 16, 2025 10:07 PM (XY7dY)

16 Good evening, friends!

Posted by: Piper at June 16, 2025 10:07 PM (p4NUW)

17 men are simple creatures

At that age? Must be one of Paolo's kids.

Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2025 10:08 PM (DgGvY)

18 Fair winds, Jim SND.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 16, 2025 10:00 PM (0eaVi)

Very fitting to accompany the lead photo. Well done.

Now what are you going to do with the extra drink, Doof?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 16, 2025 10:05 PM (0eaVi)

*pours some out for Jim*
*drinks the rest because that's what Jim would want!*

Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:08 PM (RFPHU)

19 Nyah

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:08 PM (skGot)

20 YANKEE TAXPAYER WITH BUTT HURT

Korean and Japanese shipyards maintain our forward deployed Naval Forces. With high quality repairs. We are fortunate they help so much.

But not reported much.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:08 PM (u82oZ)

21 From the Cafe, that shark at 4265 feet - that was just too specific and precise. Guess what, it's 1300 meters. Stupid reporter just did a conversion without thought. Should have said 'below 4200 feet'.
Posted by: Ciampino - need more puns, yes at June 16, 2025 10:06 PM (sPQoU)

That's why he got a degree in Journalism instead of Engineering.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2025 10:08 PM (T+iUJ)

22 Doof

Love that last picture. A keeper.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:06 PM (u82oZ)

Salty! Good to see you around here, brother!

Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:09 PM (RFPHU)

23 Gee, your balls swell horrific!

Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

https://tinyurl.com/yeym53bu
Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 10:06 PM (2yoRf)

He needs to wear a shirt that says: I fought the law, and the law took my testicle!

Only missing one ball.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 16, 2025 10:09 PM (S/Y4j)

24 No blah blah blah
**************
No bonk bonk on the head?

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 16, 2025 10:09 PM (144I4)

25 The Mungo Jerry clip is one of my favorites - just young guys having fun...plus it brings me wayyyy back to a simpler, more optimistic time...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 16, 2025 10:09 PM (QGaXH)

26 LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

No great loss, probably wasn't using them anyway.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:10 PM (skGot)

27 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

He's got a head start on being a tranny!

Posted by: TecumsehTea at June 16, 2025 10:10 PM (Eo96p)

28 *pours some out for Jim*
*drinks the rest because that's what Jim would want!*
Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:08 PM (RFPHU)

He'd like that, I believe.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 16, 2025 10:11 PM (0eaVi)

29 Oh yeah, who else had oen testicle?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:11 PM (skGot)

30 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

https://tinyurl.com/yeym53bu
Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 10:06 PM (2yoRf)

This is just one of the many reasons why I never dip my balls in liquid nitrogen before going to a riot.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2025 10:12 PM (T+iUJ)

31 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.
https://tinyurl.com/yeym53bu
Posted by: andycanuck

I only regret that I have but one more nut to lose for somebody else's country.

Posted by: Nutless Hale (.....yeah, it's a repeat) at June 16, 2025 10:12 PM (DgGvY)

32 Posted by: YANKEE TAXPAYER WITH BUTT HURT at June 16, 2025 10:04 PM (R6Hhu)

Tiresome troll seems concerned.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:12 PM (CQGxP)

33 He needs to wear a shirt that says: I fought the law, and the law took my testicle!

Only missing one ball.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 16, 2025 10:09 PM (S/Y4j)

I fought the law, and the...ball's gone
I fought the law, and the...ball's gone

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 16, 2025 10:12 PM (144I4)

34 Tensor just generated a really spiffy image, save to hard drive.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:13 PM (skGot)

35 Oh yeah, who else had oen testicle?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Lance Armstrong?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:13 PM (fab8c)

36 Yay, National Vinegar Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 16, 2025 10:14 PM (lUFok)

37 BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.
Posted by: andycanuck

Raoul the One Balled Mauler?

I caught his match with The Sheik.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 16, 2025 10:14 PM (cYBz/)

38 The Mungo Jerry clip is one of my favorites - just young guys having fun...plus it brings me wayyyy back to a simpler, more optimistic time...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 16, 2025 10:09 PM (QGaXH)

Exactly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:14 PM (CQGxP)

39 21
That's why he got a degree in Journalism instead of Engineering.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2025 10:08 PM (T+iUJ)
----
That's true. Also he couldn't spell Engineering.

Posted by: Ciampino - now called Communications at June 16, 2025 10:14 PM (sPQoU)

40 Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:08 PM (RFPHU)

DOOOOOOF!!!

Careful with those drinks, look at that hash. Roofie U?

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 16, 2025 10:14 PM (144I4)

41 He needs to wear a shirt that says: I fought the law, and the law took my testicle!

Only missing one ball.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

I fought the law, and the...ball's gone
I fought the law, and the...ball's gone
Posted by: haffhowershower

Golf clap

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:15 PM (fab8c)

42 The up nod/down nod thing is so true.

Posted by: toby928 at June 16, 2025 10:15 PM (jc0TO)

43 THAT SOUTHERN DUDE
@TSDmemes

Lindsey Graham attempting to delay his wargasm until the first U.S. bomb actually drops.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 16, 2025 10:16 PM (TGPs7)

44 28 *pours some out for Jim*
*drinks the rest because that's what Jim would want!*
Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:08 PM (RFPHU)

He'd like that, I believe.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 16, 2025 10:11 PM (0eaVi)

I'm good with that. Now...I'll see you later

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 16, 2025 10:16 PM (QGaXH)

45 One nut over the line, sweet Jesus
One nut over the line.
Protesting downtown for No Kings rally
One nut over the line.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2025 10:17 PM (wVcYX)

46 An update on questions asked at the end of the last thread.

Ground Penetrating Radar Systems can be carried on various aircraft, including the U-2. We have U-2s in our inventory, looking at Mexico.

With that radar, we can map tunnel systems and nuke site exits in Iran, if we want to.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:17 PM (u82oZ)

47 Posted by: YANKEE TAXPAYER WITH BUTT HURT at June 16, 2025 10:04 PM (R6Hhu)

Tiresome troll seems concerned.

Don't figure you paying much taxes to support Korea and Japan.

Now let's talk about the frozen North without the US. HHHMMM Putin vs Rainbow Canada without US.
How much do you guys pay?

Posted by: YANKEE TAXPAYER WITH BUTT HURT at June 16, 2025 10:17 PM (R6Hhu)

48 'Sup Morons

*up-nods*

Posted by: toby928 at June 16, 2025 10:18 PM (jc0TO)

49
Korean and Japanese shipyards maintain our forward deployed Naval Forces.

Spent a bit of time in the Subic Bay shipyard in 1972.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2025 10:18 PM (63Dwl)

50
Clinical Manifestations of Iatrogenic Magnetism in Subjects After Receiving COVID-19 Injectables: Case Report Series

Abstract: A series of cases of COVID-19 vaccine-injected patients suffering from iatrogenic magnetism is described. The attachment of massive metallic objects (up to 70 grams) to different parts of the body is a real phenomenon that may present additional health risks if such patients are subjected to magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) [ . . . ]

Conclusions: A strong magnetic field is generated in the human body that has no causal relation to previous COVID-19 vaccination.

https://tinyurl.com/bdhed8hu

Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 10:19 PM (D7oie)

51 Golf clap
Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:15 PM (fab8c)

A song (NSFW) for one-ball guy:

https://youtu.be/JT06WVpu-Pk

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:19 PM (CQGxP)

52 Bertram Cabot, Jr.

In the shipyard, or over Shit River?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:19 PM (u82oZ)

53 The No Kings rally here looked like a Golden Girls convention. And this is a college town.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 16, 2025 10:19 PM (XY7dY)

54 Salty Dawg, looking higher above the Earth. Bet we have some really good radars up there.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:19 PM (skGot)

55 Shadoobie, shattered shattered.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 10:20 PM (P9gC0)

56 BREAKING: Based on seismic activity near Fardow Nuclear Facility, IT APPEARS IRAN MAY HAVE JUST TESTED A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

Don't know how much I believe that. I don't know, but I don't think Iran has that much nuke material.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:20 PM (fab8c)

57 DOOOOOOF!!!

Careful with those drinks, look at that hash. Roofie U?
Posted by: haffhowershower at June 16, 2025 10:14 PM (144I4)

Appreciate you looking out for me. No Roofie the Doofie!

Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:20 PM (RFPHU)

58 The Mungo Jerry clip is one of my favorites - just young guys having fun...plus it brings me wayyyy back to a simpler, more optimistic time...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue

When Mungo Jerry could look like that yet folks did not automatically say, gheeeey!

Posted by: mindful webworker - sing along with me la da da da da da at June 16, 2025 10:20 PM (agX+n)

59 With that radar, we can map tunnel systems and nuke site exits in Iran, if we want to.

Posted by: NaCly Dog

=====

With everything else the Israelis know, wouldn't you think they have the blueprints already?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 16, 2025 10:20 PM (8AONa)

60 Anna Puma

Shhh, please.

The NRO is all OPSEC, my dear.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:20 PM (u82oZ)

61
Out: Shattering glass ceilings

In: Shattering testicles

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2025 10:21 PM (QnmlO)

62 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

Nice to start this thread on a high note.
Mezzo-soprano, even.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 16, 2025 10:21 PM (gKWVE)

63 2009Refugee

They are Persians. How close will they follow blueprints? Better to verify.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:21 PM (u82oZ)

64 One is the loneliest gonad that you'll ever have
Two can be as bad as one
It's the loneliest number since the number one

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2025 10:22 PM (wVcYX)

65 Salty Dawg

Look at all the old channels and tributaries of the Nile River delta.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:22 PM (skGot)

66 Evenin'

Meh. I have some weird head cold. The only symptoms are laryngitis and I'm really tired. More annoying than debilitating. My sinuses are screwed up too, but they always are. (sad violin).

Just watched a replay of the final round of the US Open. Oakmont is hard. Golf on Oakmont is torture. Congrats for JJ Spaun. Way to hang in there.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 16, 2025 10:22 PM (sAmhv)

67 Now let's talk about the frozen North without the US. HHHMMM Putin vs Rainbow Canada without US.
How much do you guys pay?
Posted by: YANKEE TAXPAYER WITH BUTT HURT at June 16, 2025 10:17 PM (R6Hhu)

I'd happily take Putin over the God-damned Eurofag we have now.
You know, an isolationist position is defensible. But you keep repeating yourself like a broken record. Be better.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:22 PM (CQGxP)

68 That iron story sounds almost too wild to believe! But I guess it’s true.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2025 10:22 PM (e15Ap)

69 Anna Puma

Good point. The archeologists swear by that radar system.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:22 PM (u82oZ)

70 Phone call:

Is this Murder Hornets?
I'd like to place an order, to be delivered to the LA riot.
Not everyone, just the protesters and other assholes.
You can promise delivery tomorrow? Wonderful!
My name? David Hogg, from Act Blue.
Sure, here's the payment details. XXXXXXX
If we have any issues, or want another delivery, we'll call.
Good night.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (S/Y4j)

71 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

So it was just WUNNA? Not BOFA?

Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (RFPHU)

72 From previous thread:
544 Eagle Claw taught a lot of hard, costly lessons, to DoD
Rule 1 - do not make it a multi service affair unless forced to. Rule 2 - KISS. Rule 3 - be bold.
You had USAF Spec Ops, you had Delta, Navy CH-53Es, Marine pilots for the CH-53Es, late addition of some Rangers, and CIA and Iranian agents.

Except for the Marines and Delta, no one trained together. And Delta did not trust the Marines.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:04 PM (skGot)

Anna Puma, in many ways results of the May 1975 rescue op for the civilian container ship Mayaguez and crew, captured by Khmer Rouge forces off the coast of Cambodia, was worse than Eagle Claw (when it ended).

The butcher's bill:
US casualties were ten Marines, two Navy corpsmen, and an Air Force crewman killed in the crash of Knife 31 (CH-53); an Air Force crewman killed in the crash of Knife 21 (CH-53); one Marine killed in action on the West Beach; and three Marines missing in action and presumed dead. Fifty were wounded including thirty-five Marines and six airmen. In addition, eighteen USAF Security Police and five flight crew were killed in the CH-53 crash on the way to U-Tapao to pick-up more Marines.

Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (aBgBM)

73 Or what the Iranians had down there got jostled and went critical accidentally.

If true, no one will be restarting that place for centuries.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (skGot)

74 Shattered, Shattered...

Posted by: The Rolling Stones at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (i0F8b)

75 Good evening morons y gracias Disco

There were no rules about passing the duchie when I grew up except don't drool.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (RIvkX)

76 "In the Summertime", Wow. 1970. I met my bestest friend ever, he from Los Angeles, had just moved to Durban with wife. He was forever singing that song as we worked in the Organic lab. I had just started on my PhD project. 1970-3 were probably the happiest and most productive years for me.

Posted by: Ciampino - now called Nonsense at June 16, 2025 10:24 PM (sPQoU)

77
In the shipyard, or over Shit River?

Yes. It was where we stopped on the way from Guam to Nam.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2025 10:24 PM (63Dwl)

78 Clinical Manifestations of Iatrogenic Magnetism in Subjects After Receiving COVID-19 Injectables: Case Report Series
Posted by: Kindltot

I saw Iatrogenic Magnetism open for Steelheart at The Foundry in '92.

Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2025 10:24 PM (DgGvY)

79 My second favorite Mungo Jerry "In the Summertime" video.

In The Summertime Tutorial by Mungo - Official
Mungo Jerry

https://youtu.be/um-xl9EVqvs

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 10:24 PM (NXz8h)

80 It's a good thing Mungo Jerry could sing. Woof.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 16, 2025 10:25 PM (mlg/3)

81 BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.
Posted by: andycanuck

Better pack that last one with...ice.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2025 10:25 PM (W/lyH)

82 Gref

You are missing a critical difference between the two operations.

Mayquez mission was carried out almost on the fly with in theater assets.

Eagle Claw, they spent months training and planning.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:25 PM (skGot)

83 Good evening morons y gracias Disco

There were no rules about passing the duchie when I grew up except don't drool.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (RIvkX)

Passing it >> Bogarting it

Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:25 PM (RFPHU)

84 Sorry I'm late, thegoblin shark asked me to measure the depth of the ocean around St. Aubergine Island to see if it was suitable for him.

4,258 feet.

He was disappointed.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 16, 2025 10:25 PM (wnvQr)

85 Spent a bit of time in the Subic Bay shipyard in 1972.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2025 10:18 PM (63Dwl)

Well, I heard the Filipinas there dealt with a lot of seamen.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 16, 2025 10:25 PM (0eaVi)

86 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

https://tinyurl.com/yeym53bu

https://youtu.be/Wjz6l_4MqHM

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 16, 2025 10:25 PM (lUFok)

87 With that radar, we can map tunnel systems and nuke site exits in Iran, if we want to.

Posted by: NaCly Dog

=====

With everything else the Israelis know, wouldn't you think they have the blueprints already?
Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 16, 2025 10:20 PM (8AONa)

One thing you could do to stymie ground-penetrating radar is to make your horizontal tunnels deep enough that GPR cannot see them, and then dig a vertical raise close to surface. Might just show as a dot on a GPR map, and not be definitive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:26 PM (CQGxP)

88
Testicle Casualty Guy could have made up his story.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 16, 2025 10:27 PM (g3j/k)

89 When the Jab first came out there were reports of magnetism at the injection site. There was an Argentine (?) morning news program talking about it and I thought it was a gag

I am still not sure about that, since MOST spoons are actualy stainless, which is not very magnetic at all, depending on the composition.
However a dab of glycerine will make things adhere, as will "oily" skin.
(one of my stupid party tricks was to stick quarters to my forehead, and to pretend to make them magnetic to stick to other people's foreheads, it is hilarious if you are drunk and in your 20's)

Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 10:27 PM (D7oie)

90 Gref

Operational excellence is paved with studying bad examples. They did the best they could within the time that had, and forces available. Intelligence failed the front line forces. Again.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:27 PM (u82oZ)

91 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

So it was just WUNNA? Not BOFA?
Posted by: Doof

Wunna deez ain't like the other.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:27 PM (fab8c)

92 I'd happily take Putin over the God-damned Eurofag we have now.
You know, an isolationist position is defensible. But you keep repeating yourself like a broken record. Be better.

Guess I've over made my point. Just seems like no one is bring this up. Why are we out there with our asses on the line?

OK done.

Posted by: YANKEE TAXPAYER WITH BUTT HURT at June 16, 2025 10:28 PM (R6Hhu)

93 Better pack that last one with...ice.
Posted by: Diogenes
-----
Icy what you did there!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 10:29 PM (2yoRf)

94 @FBIDirectorKash
·
11m
The FBI has located documents which detail alarming allegations related to the 2020 U.S. election, including allegations of interference by the CCP.

I have immediately declassified the material and turned the documents over to the Chairman Grassley for further review.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2025 10:29 PM (PQWix)

95 Alberta Oil Peon

I know ... Let's enhance the signal with A/I! Who's with me?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:29 PM (u82oZ)

96 Actually that seismic event was very deep; and so it appears that the Lord may have decided to let all know he was watching.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2025 10:29 PM (e15Ap)

97 Testicle Casualty Guy could have made up his story.
------
A ballsy move.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 10:30 PM (2yoRf)

98 Where's the wake on that catamaran?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 10:30 PM (JkO4W)

99 PS to #72.

The three MIA Marines were accidentally left behind on Koh Tang. A retrieval helo mission was called-off while in-progress for fear of more casualties. The three were captured and executed - beaten to death. Three CH-53's were shot down, all by RPGs.

The Mayaguez Incident has been swept-under-the-rug. It is long-forgotten by most everyone. Very sad.

Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 10:30 PM (aBgBM)

100 Down nods to Doof, nice ONT. Evening, Horde.

Posted by: scampydog at June 16, 2025 10:30 PM (41CYW)

101 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (S/Y4j)

Hard for deeply urban areas, but I have wondered at the wisdom of squirting Oak Stump Yellow Jacket Lure the night before a protest.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 10:30 PM (D7oie)

102 91 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

So it was just WUNNA? Not BOFA?
Posted by: Doof

Wunna deez ain't like the other.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:27 PM (fab8c)

OK yer goin straight ta hell!!!

Posted by: Kermit Duh Frog... at June 16, 2025 10:31 PM (mP0Kj)

103 BREAKING: Based on seismic activity near Fardow Nuclear Facility, IT APPEARS IRAN MAY HAVE JUST TESTED A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

Don't know how much I believe that. I don't know, but I don't think Iran has that much nuke material.
Posted by: rickb223

So, the Jews upgraded their weather-control device? It does earthquakes, now, too?

Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2025 10:31 PM (DgGvY)

104 Please contact the President.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

Subject: Urgent Concerns Regarding National Security and Foreign Policy Priorities
Dear Mr. President,
As a concerned citizen, I respectfully urge you to prioritize reining in the influence of unelected intelligence agencies and the deep state, as well as halting the perpetuation of endless foreign conflicts. Your administration was elected with a mandate to challenge entrenched interests and prioritize America’s interests by avoiding unnecessary wars.
I strongly encourage you to resist the influence of neoconservative advisors whose policies risk entangling our nation in prolonged conflicts. The continued support of the MAGA coalition depends on your commitment to these critical objectives. Please take decisive action to align our national security and foreign policy with the will of the American people.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]

Posted by: Miken at June 16, 2025 10:32 PM (rbGhV)

105 Where's the wake on that catamaran?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 10:30 PM (JkO4W)

And why is there no such thing as a dogamaran?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:32 PM (CQGxP)

106 98 Where's the wake on that catamaran?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 10:30 PM (JkO4W)

Uh... it's not woke... er wake... er something?

Posted by: Kermit Duh Frog... at June 16, 2025 10:32 PM (mP0Kj)

107 Down nods to Doof, nice ONT. Evening, Horde.
Posted by: scampydog at June 16, 2025 10:30 PM (41CYW)

Up nod to the Doggo

Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:32 PM (RFPHU)

108 The Mungo Jerry clip is one of my favorites - just young guys having fun...plus it brings me wayyyy back to a simpler, more optimistic time...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue

I was 15, visiting my cousin in MN, and he and I went to the local fair to see what was what, and meet girls. We had some modest success. It was a great trip.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 16, 2025 10:32 PM (s8j++)

109 What are the chances Israel had infiltrated the nuke facilities?

Posted by: davidt at June 16, 2025 10:33 PM (i0F8b)

110 Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸

@RepMTG
Tucker Carlson is one of my favorite people.

He fiercely loves his wife, children, and our country.

Since being fired by the neocon network Fox News, he has more popularity and viewers than ever before.

He unapologetically believes the same things I do.

That if we don’t fight for our own country and our own people then we will no longer have a country for our children and our grandchildren.

And foreign wars/intervention/regime change put America last, kill innocent people, are making us broke, and will ultimately lead to our destruction.

That’s not kooky.

That’s what millions of Americans voted for.

It’s what we believe is America First.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 16, 2025 10:33 PM (TGPs7)

111 The Mungo Jerry clip is one of my favorites - just young guys having fun...plus it brings me wayyyy back to a simpler, more optimistic time...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue

I was 15, visiting my cousin in MN, and he and I went to the local fair to see what was what, and meet girls. We had some modest success. It was a great trip.

And yes, Mungo Jerry was the sound track.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 16, 2025 10:33 PM (s8j++)

112 105 Where's the wake on that catamaran?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 10:30 PM (JkO4W)

And why is there no such thing as a dogamaran?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:32 PM (CQGxP)

Dog Boat? That would be... Ketch, of course.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:33 PM (mP0Kj)

113 Gref

The incident lived in the heart of SAR forces for decades later. We had the SAR helo onboard for the second 1986 dustup with Libya (with the F-111s).

The pilots and Ops guys had the Mayaguez Incident and Desert One in the back of their minds.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:33 PM (u82oZ)

114 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (S/Y4j)

Hard for deeply urban areas, but I have wondered at the wisdom of squirting Oak Stump Yellow Jacket Lure the night before a protest.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 10:30 PM (D7oie)

A different approach would be to spray sugar water, or thinned maple syrup, on the protesters from crop dusters. It would attract all sorts of creatures.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 16, 2025 10:34 PM (S/Y4j)

115 Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 16, 2025 10:33 PM (TGPs7)

The idea that I have to believe in EVERYTHING you say... destroys our side.

Ever had a good friend you disagreed with on some stuff? Yeah... THAT IS NORMAL...

Probably 80% of what Tucker says, I agree with, so I'm not willing to toss him to the curb.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:35 PM (mP0Kj)

116 A different approach would be to spray sugar water, or thinned maple syrup, on the protesters from crop dusters. It would attract all sorts of creatures.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 16, 2025 10:34 PM (S/Y4j)

Yellowjackets are attracted to the smell of meat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:36 PM (CQGxP)

117 So, the Jews upgraded their weather-control device? It does earthquakes, now, too?
Posted by: mikeski

I'd believe that over testing a nuke. If they had a functional nuke, they'd have used it. Like someone said earlier, "it's 1940's technology. It's not like it's unknown.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:37 PM (fab8c)

118 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

https://tinyurl.com/yeym53bu
Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 10:06 PM (2yoRf)
______________________________

"NUTS!!!!"

Posted by: Brigadier General McAuliffe at June 16, 2025 10:37 PM (dIske)

119 Hopefully there is a mud wrestling provision in the new beautiful bill between zelensky and bibi to determine who gets the most of our taxes.

Posted by: ryukyu at June 16, 2025 10:37 PM (n/IAb)

120 urgent concerns...
Posted by: Miken at June 16, 2025 10:32 PM (rbGhV)

[x] Noted
[ ] Not noted

Posted by: gKWVE at June 16, 2025 10:37 PM (gKWVE)

121 Three tankers ablaze off of Oman.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 10:38 PM (P9gC0)

122 82 Gref

You are missing a critical difference between the two operations.

Mayquez mission was carried out almost on the fly with in theater assets.

Eagle Claw, they spent months training and planning.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:25 PM (skGot)

In your opinion. Despite the planning, the first night's relatively straightforward movement to the staging location was hamstrung by lack of air asset redundancy, and inability to forecast, recon for, and operate in a common weather phenomenon in the area, a haboob. Not much long and careful planning there. Again, those issues were due to the forces we had available at the time, not what was truly needed. Along with a lack of foresight of possible local weather.

Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 10:38 PM (aBgBM)

123 UAE that is.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 10:38 PM (P9gC0)

124 Where's the wake on that catamaran?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

And why is there no such thing as a dogamaran?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Cats hate water, so a boat that tries to stay out of the water is a cat boat.

Dogs like water, so a dog boat wouldn't be anything special.

Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2025 10:38 PM (DgGvY)

125 Perhaps the catamaran is becalmed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:39 PM (skGot)

126 Gettin' froggy

@spectatorindex 6m
BREAKING: Reports of incident in the Gulf of Oman, possibly involving a number of ships.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 16, 2025 10:39 PM (mlg/3)

127 103 BREAKING: Based on seismic activity near Fardow Nuclear Facility, IT APPEARS IRAN MAY HAVE JUST TESTED A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

Don't know how much I believe that. I don't know, but I don't think Iran has that much nuke material.
Posted by: rickb223

So, the Jews upgraded their weather-control device? It does earthquakes, now, too?
Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2025 10:31 PM (DgGvY)

We created the first atomic bomb 80 years ago, when no one knew it could be done.

I'm surprised it has taken them this long... they don't need a Modern type bomb to become a threat... but that is what they seem to want to produce.

Which is like running before you learn to walk...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:39 PM (mP0Kj)

128
We do have nuclear bunker busters, and I had Grok going on about what they can do. Adjustable yield, 1 - 10 kt TNT. The penetrate a few meters into the ground, and then detonate, with the design to optimize shockwave coupling to the rock.

Properly aimed, one of those could deliver significant shockwaves even 200 m undeground. It would do no direct "blow up" damage, the shockwave would do some real damage.

Consider a big room 200 m under rock. Direct a 10kt shockwave. Air overpressure in that room would hit 10 - 30 atm! That would be enough to kill people right then and there. Also, mess up delicate equipment. Just imagine a "nuclear lab" type setup, and such a pressure shock rips through, and bounces off the walls.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 16, 2025 10:39 PM (w6EFb)

129 Perhaps the catamaran is becalmed.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:39 PM (skGot)

Or declawed.

Posted by: RickZ at June 16, 2025 10:40 PM (gKDq2)

130 What are the chances Israel had infiltrated the nuke facilities?
Posted by: davidt

High. The had an office in an office building in downtown Tehran where they launched bomb carrying drones.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:40 PM (fab8c)

131 Perhaps the catamaran is becalmed.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:39 PM (skGot)

M>F trannies are itching to become be-clammed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:40 PM (CQGxP)

132 I very much doubt that if the Iranians think they have even a potential nuke, they'd use it. Their confidence in the thing would be very low, and if they tried it, and the Israelis found it after it failed, the ayatollahs would shortly meet Allah's anus.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 16, 2025 10:40 PM (s8j++)

133 113 Gref

The incident lived in the heart of SAR forces for decades later. We had the SAR helo onboard for the second 1986 dustup with Libya (with the F-111s).

The pilots and Ops guys had the Mayaguez Incident and Desert One in the back of their minds.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:33 PM (u82oZ)

I did not know those things Salty. Thank you and my apology to those working planning and executing, post-Mayaguez.

Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 10:40 PM (aBgBM)

134 It’s what we believe is America First.
-
Is it in America's interest for Iran to have nuclear weapons?

If not, is there a thing we are doing and are going to do about it, and is that thing (or range of things), worth the cost involved?

That's a discussion worth having. Mindlessly screaming "NO MORE WAR" is not.

Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (Dnobf)

135 30 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

https://tinyurl.com/yeym53bu
Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 10:06 PM (2yoRf)

I'm not sure how I feel about ICE providing half off gender reassignment services to illegal aliens.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (pIfcn)

136
'evening. I've been chasing a position within my MIC company for the last six weeks that'll get me promoted (eventually, not right away) from technical fellow, to senior technical fellow. Grueling series of technical interviews, complete with a three sentence homework assignment at 5:30 on a Friday evening with the next interview on a Monday morning.

I just got informed that I got the job. I'm gonna get shit faced in celebration. Y'all drink several for me too.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (MsrgL)

137 Consider a big room 200 m under rock. Direct a 10kt shockwave. Air overpressure in that room would hit 10 - 30 atm! That would be enough to kill people right then and there. Also, mess up delicate equipment. Just imagine a "nuclear lab" type setup, and such a pressure shock rips through, and bounces off the walls.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 16, 2025 10:39 PM (w6EFb)

You should go into the porn writing business. Good stuff.

Posted by: RickZ at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (gKDq2)

138
Three tankers ablaze off of Oman.
Posted by: Boss Moss

I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (63Dwl)

139 Probably 80% of what Tucker says, I agree with, so I'm not willing to toss him to the curb.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:35 PM (mP0Kj)

I listened to Rush to hear what Rush thought. I listen to Tucker to hear what his guests think.

Tucker talks like a baritone Meryl Streep. Listen to them both and you will never get it out of your head.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 10:42 PM (D7oie)

140 Perhaps the catamaran is becalmed.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:39 PM (skGot)

. . . in the Bermuda Triangle . . .

[cue foreboding, eerie music]

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2025 10:42 PM (wVcYX)

141 Ace outs himself as a neocon. Ha.

Posted by: Miken at June 16, 2025 10:42 PM (rbGhV)

142 Buddy Ebsen built his own 28 ft catamaran, the Polynesian Concept. Sailed it in the Transpacific Race 1968, LA to Honolulu. The boat won.

Posted by: Barnaby Jones at June 16, 2025 10:42 PM (G5+As)

143 121 Three tankers ablaze off of Oman.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 10:38 PM (P9gC0)

I would say we are getting close to WW 3 territory, but there are no clearly defined sides...

Except for the Anti American sentiment amongst all of our adversaries.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:42 PM (mP0Kj)

144 What sense does testing a device make for Iran now? It is like announcing " I need to be bombed more"

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 10:42 PM (YwEeS)

145 >>Perhaps the catamaran is becalmed.

What gave it away? The lack of any apparent wind and a very calm sea?

There's a small but visible wake of the starboard hull but no wind makes for small wakes.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2025 10:43 PM (PQWix)

146 New trolls here tonight I see.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 10:43 PM (JkO4W)

147 Wunna deez ain't like the other.
Posted by: rickb223 a

Lol

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 16, 2025 10:43 PM (Splbu)

148 Got to love these trolls that show up during these times.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 10:44 PM (YwEeS)

149 How deep was that earthquake?

I know it was too small to be seen on the USGS instruments, which are a long way away.

But there are other indications possible. All I'm going to say.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:44 PM (u82oZ)

150 Three tankers ablaze off of Oman.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Better check the code book. Not sure if this is a "John has a long mustache" thing or a "Shaka, when the walls fell" thing.

Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2025 10:44 PM (DgGvY)

151 I just got informed that I got the job. I'm gonna get shit faced in celebration. Y'all drink several for me too.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (MsrgL)

/Hoists his wine glass

CONGRATS!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:44 PM (mP0Kj)

152 The idea that I have to believe in EVERYTHING you say... destroys our side.

Of course, unless it's something really important, like MaryAnne over Ginger.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 16, 2025 10:44 PM (s8j++)

153 If I remember correctly Gref

The Marines blew off doing any sand storm training

Also the spare CH-53Es were not added until late in the training for mission redundancy. The CH-53Es were the true Achilles heel as one went down in the haboob. Another was a fail. Third made it to Desert One but with a problem, basically had 72 hours of life in the rotor. So the CH-53E was down checked. The rest made it to Desert One an hour late due to the haboob.

Meanwhile the Rangers had captured a bus full of Iranian citizens and blew up a fuel tanker.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:44 PM (skGot)

154 MTG really is an idiot, but that's not a shock. Tucker's always been a lightweight, which doesn't mean his heart's not in the right place on many things. The ignorant non sequitir about having a foreign policy or role bigger than Uruguay's being incompatible with "fixing things at home" is incredibly dumb of course.

But these airheads stumble into ridiculous blood libel so easily. All those poor innocent people we kill overseas! According to several I've seen actually type it - millions! Baby milk factories, people!

Somehow with pin-prick precision bombing, JAGs needing to sign off on single bomb drops, no artillery, and a "counter-insurgency" approach that was often criminally soft and dumb - we killed MILLIONS!

Dumbed down beyond recognition.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 10:45 PM (1m82a)

155 Three tankers ablaze off of Oman.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Better check the code book. Not sure if this is a "John has a long mustache" thing or a "Shaka, when the walls fell" thing.
Posted by: mikeski

The chair is against the wall.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:45 PM (fab8c)

156 Where is the Greenpeace denouncement of Iran for polluting the Gulf of Oman? The world wonders.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:45 PM (u82oZ)

157 Got to love these trolls that show up during these times.
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 10:44 PM (YwEeS)

{Shrugs}

I guess the check still clears.

Posted by: RickZ at June 16, 2025 10:45 PM (gKDq2)

158 Worst job in the world at present:

Ali Madanizadeh, the new head of Iran’s Ministry of Economic Affairs and Finance. He was appointed just this month. I'm guessing he regrets the promotion.

Posted by: Orson at June 16, 2025 10:46 PM (dIske)

159 149 How deep was that earthquake?

I know it was too small to be seen on the USGS instruments, which are a long way away.

But there are other indications possible. All I'm going to say.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:44 PM (u82oZ)

Hmmm... weird that the rich countries of the Mid East, Saudi or one of the other Kingdoms, do not have seismic equipment.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:46 PM (mP0Kj)

160 I just got informed that I got the job. I'm gonna get shit faced in celebration. Y'all drink several for me too.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (MsrgL)

Congratulations, Bif! I will pour one shortly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:46 PM (CQGxP)

161 I guess we'll see tomorrow.

Grok @grok 27m Replying to @Chamoisdavisjr @sentdefender @zerohedge
The claim of three ships on fire in the Gulf of Oman near the Strait of Hormuz on June 17, 2025, lacks official confirmation from maritime authorities like UKMTO. Social media reports and a NASA FIRMS map suggest fires, but no major news outlets have verified the incident. An image shared with the claim shows coordinates (37.0 N 122.0 W) pointing to California, not the Gulf of Oman, raising doubts about its relevance. Given the region's tensions, such reports are plausible but unconfirmed. Without official evidence, the accuracy remains uncertain.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 10:46 PM (2yoRf)

162 How deep was that earthquake?

I know it was too small to be seen on the USGS instruments, which are a long way away.
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Based on the discussion in the last thread, I think people were under the impression it was 10km down, which seems likely to not be a test site.

Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 10:47 PM (Dnobf)

163 152 The idea that I have to believe in EVERYTHING you say... destroys our side.

Of course, unless it's something really important, like MaryAnne over Ginger.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 16, 2025 10:44 PM (s8j++)

And lets not even talk about those Anti Crossbow people!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:47 PM (mP0Kj)

164 I just got informed that I got the job. I'm gonna get shit faced in celebration. Y'all drink several for me too.
Posted by: BifBewalski
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Congrats and cheers!

Posted by: scampydog at June 16, 2025 10:47 PM (41CYW)

165
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (MsrgL)

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GO BIF!!!!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 16, 2025 10:48 PM (wbZPZ)

166 Romeo13

The key is data we can trust.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:48 PM (u82oZ)

167 I just got informed that I got the job.
Posted by: BifBewalski

What is this 'work' thing?

Congrats BB!!!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 16, 2025 10:49 PM (cYBz/)

168 An image shared with the claim shows coordinates (37.0 N 122.0 W) pointing to California, not the Gulf of Oman, raising doubts about its relevance. Given the region's tensions, such reports are plausible but unconfirmed. Without official evidence, the accuracy remains uncertain.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 10:46 PM (2yoRf)

Easy mistake to make. In California, its the Gulf of Oh, Man!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:49 PM (CQGxP)

169
There was some "seismic activity" near Fordow about 24 hours ago, and that was assumed to be bombs going off. Is this something new, some new seismic event just recently?

B-2s dropping those big bunker busters would make for some "seismic activity" indeed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 16, 2025 10:49 PM (w6EFb)

170 Without official evidence, the accuracy remains uncertain.
Posted by: andycanuck

You can bet out intelligence agencies already are already watching the area in real time satellite imagery.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 10:49 PM (fab8c)

171 Cicero can't tell given the photo but that cat looks similar to a 35-foot Fontaine-Pajot a friend had for years and then tragically sold just when I came back here. Great boat for long-duration trips, roomy and comfortable. Well except when motoring the 800 miles up from Cabo, the "bash". Cats bounce like corks as you know.

He's now got a 42-foot Leopard in the Moorings fleet, down in Grenada. Did a great (cheap) trip with him in the French West Indies last November, hoping we can do Croatia this year or next. Owners get such a discount that unthinkably expensive charters become cheap (assuming bare-boat of course).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 10:49 PM (1m82a)

172 I don't understand where the idea that Trump would not use military force if necessary comes from. Absolutely he wants peace but events drive .

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 10:50 PM (YwEeS)

173 I just got informed that I got the job. I'm gonna get shit faced in celebration. Y'all drink several for me too.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (MsrgL)

Congrats. Always nice to hear good job news -- or any good news.

Celebrate just don't go in that first day with a hangover.

Posted by: RickZ at June 16, 2025 10:50 PM (gKDq2)

174 I just got informed that I got the job.
Posted by: BifBewalski

Huzzah!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:50 PM (u82oZ)

175 Based on the discussion in the last thread, I think people were under the impression it was 10km down, which seems likely to not be a test site.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 10:47 PM (Dnobf)

I farted, OK? Happens to the best of us.

Posted by: The 12th Imam at June 16, 2025 10:50 PM (CQGxP)

176 Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (MsrgL)
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Mazel tov!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2025 10:51 PM (RIvkX)

177 My only gripe about Tucker Carlson falls into the Jimmy Fallon category. I'm not a big fan of fake laughing. Either something is funny or it isn't. There's no need to put on a production number.

(same premise applies to people who think they need to sneeze in such a way that people three states over know it occurred. Bonus annoyance points for those who actually sound out AaaaaChoooo during their sneeze)

We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.

Posted by: Orson at June 16, 2025 10:51 PM (dIske)

178 Last thread: Ketchup does not require refrigeration.

However, I refrigerate Ketchup, because I prefer cold Ketchup on fresh, hot French Fries for example. Pickles are another example. I like them cold. But they do not need refrigeration, obviously.

A nice contrast in flavors. I think refrigeration slows oxidation and helps keep the Ketchup flavor popping. But it is not required. Store brand is fine - definitely don’t need to be giving the Heinz family any money voluntarily.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 16, 2025 10:51 PM (ixIgP)

179 Never knew the Mayaguez op was *such* a charlie foxtrot. To include abandoned troops? Wow. Echoes of the Makin Island raid.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 10:51 PM (1m82a)

180 Those darn neeyokawns!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 16, 2025 10:51 PM (RIvkX)

181 Worst job in the world at present:

Ali Madanizadeh, the new head of Iran’s Ministry of Economic Affairs and Finance. He was appointed just this month. I'm guessing he regrets the promotion.
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It *probably* won't get him an Israeli air strike, so there's that.

Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 10:51 PM (Dnobf)

182 Congrats Bif!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 16, 2025 10:52 PM (Splbu)

183
The FBI has located documents which detail alarming allegations related to the 2020 U.S. election, including allegations of interference by the CCP.

I have immediately declassified the material and turned the documents over to the Chairman Grassley for further review.
Posted by: JackStraw

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When do WE get to see them?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 16, 2025 10:52 PM (wbZPZ)

184 >> I just got informed that I got the job. I'm gonna get shit faced in celebration. Y'all drink several for me too.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (MsrgL)
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Hooray! Congrats!

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 16, 2025 10:52 PM (7foc9)

185 Meanwhile the Rangers had captured a bus full of Iranian citizens and blew up a fuel tanker.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 10:44 PM (skGot)

Lack of foresight in locating the C-13 landing strip near a highway and inadequate highway traffic analysis. I'm not saying Eagle Claw would have succeeded had the first night's troop transfer gone perfectly. Overall, it was a harebrained op. But the only option DoD could work-up. Carter decided to take the risk.

Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 10:53 PM (aBgBM)

186 An image shared with the claim shows coordinates (37.0 N 122.0 W) pointing to California, not the Gulf of Oman, raising doubts about its relevance
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Three tankers on fire of the coast of California is at least interesting?

Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 10:53 PM (Dnobf)

187 OSINTdefender @sentdefender Jun 15
A magnitude 2.5 earthquake was reported earlier in the Qom Province of Northern Iran, close to the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP). The earthquake appears to have occurred around the same time as the reported strikes earlier against Fordow by the Israeli Air Force, though the depth leads me to believe that this was likely a natural earthquake.

OSINTdefender @sentdefender 23h
For anyone claiming this is fake, it isn’t, this is a screenshot I took myself of the report from the Iranian Seismological Center, you can check the website for yourself.

https://tinyurl.com/35bmcus6
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I checked the USGS site this morning and they hadn't detected that earthquake.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 07:09 PM

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 10:53 PM (2yoRf)

188 166 Romeo13

The key is data we can trust.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:48 PM (u82oZ)

Yup... which is a Yuge problem right now... our own Government has shown it cannot be trusted.

They even Lie to the President himself.. constantly.

MSM? hell... for me the trust level is right about the level I trust my EX Wife... which is... not.

Internet searches have degraded the last few years... now most search engines show you the same 20 or so hits for page after page....

I'm actually glad that I am retired... and no longer have anywhere near the potential impact I once had...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:53 PM (mP0Kj)

189 B-2s dropping those big bunker busters would make for some "seismic activity" indeed.
Posted by: publius

It is my understanding multiple bombs would have to be dropped down the same hole to knock out Fordo(w?). Where have I heard the before? Oh, yeah, Top Gun: Maverick.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 10:53 PM (NXz8h)

190 Back on the right track or that lead trial balloon went nowhere...

captive dreamer
@avaricum777

Just in from WAPO: Trump officials reverse guidance exempting farms, hotels from immigration raids.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 16, 2025 10:54 PM (TGPs7)

191
I have immediately declassified the material and turned the documents over to the Chairman Grassley for further review.
Posted by: JackStraw

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When do WE get to see them?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Steiner has them.
#2weeks

I denounce myself for that.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 10:54 PM (MsrgL)

192 Ah, Mungo Jerry. What a friend of mine called the most sexist artist in history:

“If her daddy’s rich, take her out for a meal, if her daddy’s poor, just do as you will…”

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 16, 2025 10:54 PM (vm8sq)

193 BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered"

Shadoobie!

Posted by: Barbara at June 16, 2025 10:55 PM (v+gTt)

194 >>>They hate us and ruined out industrial base while we defended them. They paid nothing.
Look at Youngstown, Detroit...Now look at Beppu and Kobe.
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You didn't have to pay for the repeated repairs, upkeep, and gas for that crap Detroit was putting out did you?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 10:55 PM (DS3M8)

195
Also, Iran is pretty seismically active anyway, about 2100 events of magnitude 2.0 or greater per year. So, on average, we'd expect a lot of little natural earthquakes in the region all the time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 16, 2025 10:55 PM (w6EFb)

196 179 Never knew the Mayaguez op was *such* a charlie foxtrot. To include abandoned troops? Wow. Echoes of the Makin Island raid.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 10:51 PM (1m82a)

Yep. A HUGE cluster.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 16, 2025 10:56 PM (vm8sq)

197 Also if the Iranians were dumb enough to test a device the Israelis would likely use a "tactical special" to get the site.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 10:56 PM (YwEeS)

198 86 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

https://tinyurl.com/yeym53bu

https://youtu.be/Wjz6l_4MqHM

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 16, 2025 10:25 PM (lUFok)

If the worst person in history before Trump could get by with only one, a brave fascist-fighter should also be able to!

Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 10:57 PM (aBgBM)

199 Where is Tehran Tina, weather girl extraordinaire and bomb dodger, when you need some unbiased war propaganda?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 10:57 PM (NXz8h)

200 Based on the discussion in the last thread, I think people were under the impression it was 10km down, which seems likely to not be a test site.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 10:47 PM (Dnobf)

It could be one of the imprisoned djinns getting restive as his bounds begin to weaken.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 10:57 PM (D7oie)

201 Well.done Bif!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2025 10:57 PM (W/lyH)

202 https://youtu.be/JT06WVpu-Pk

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 10:19 PM (CQGxP)
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I knew what it was without clicking it. Great tune!

Posted by: 496 at June 16, 2025 10:57 PM (9C6BN)

203 Gref

Lance Armstrong?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:58 PM (u82oZ)

204 197 Also if the Iranians were dumb enough to test a device the Israelis would likely use a "tactical special" to get the site.
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 10:56 PM (YwEeS)

Yeah, I don't see the Iranian's having the command and control to let one off the chain at this point.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:58 PM (mP0Kj)

205 146 New trolls here tonight I see.
Posted by: Cicero

So, 'aCE OUtiD sElf aZ a nEoKoN', didn't move you? You didn't change your position with that brilliant analysis? Weird.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 16, 2025 10:58 PM (sAmhv)

206 184 >> I just got informed that I got the job. I'm gonna get shit faced in celebration. Y'all drink several for me too.
Posted by: BifBewalski
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Super! What is it?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 10:58 PM (DS3M8)

207 203 Gref

Lance Armstrong?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 10:58 PM (u82oZ)

LOL

Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 10:59 PM (aBgBM)

208 Congrats Bif, the world won't blow up before you start your new job....probably

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 10:59 PM (YwEeS)

209 Also if the Iranians were dumb enough to test a device the Israelis would likely use a "tactical special" to get the site.
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 10:56 PM (YwEeS)

If the Iranians had a nuke ready to go, I doubt, under the present circumstances, that they would "waste" it in an underground test. Probably load it on a missile and launch it at Israel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 11:00 PM (CQGxP)

210 Romeo13

Ya know, the Iranian leaders may not have robust control on those devices. I am sure they have no PALs to prevent detonation unless authorized, for example.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 11:00 PM (u82oZ)

211 Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 10:49 PM (1m82a)

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The Leopard is a nice catamaran. There's one a few docks down from me. Pity that a 42 is a little north of my soon-to-be-retired boat budget.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 11:00 PM (JkO4W)

212 If her daddy’s rich, take her out for a meal, if her daddy’s poor, just do as you will…”

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 16, 2025 10:54 PM (vm8sq)
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And if I get her in my sights... Boom Boom! Out go the lights!

Posted by: 496 at June 16, 2025 11:00 PM (9C6BN)

213 I'm not in the mood for trolls tonight. I have an early flight tomorrow for family vacay in and around Yellowstone

Posted by: Otto Pen at June 16, 2025 11:00 PM (sJHOI)

214 > Where is the Greenpeace denouncement of Iran for polluting the Gulf of Oman? The world wonders.
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I think Greenpeace folded

Posted by: Don Black at June 16, 2025 11:00 PM (AOsQT)

215 I miss Shibumi.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 11:01 PM (D7oie)

216 PALs are what?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 11:01 PM (P9gC0)

217 If true, nice and not surprising that the ridiculous revised guidance on ICE ops re ag/hospitality is being s-canned. First minute it was reported, friend and I were wondering if Stephen Miller had seen it, and imagining his reaction.

There is a sort of common sense strategy for addressing the "W-2" illegal labor problem, it would both achieve results and minimize economic disruption. Friend told me he could get it to someone with excellent top DHS connections. So far have heard nothing.

Of course worksite raids, to alter the pool temperature and focus minds, could help. But one yuuuuge element is missing in that, to date: prosecution of employers. A glaring and disastrous omission.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 11:01 PM (1m82a)

218 Korean and Japanese shipyards maintain our forward deployed Naval Forces. With high quality repairs. We are fortunate they help so much.

We are fortunate they help so much and charge us to maintain our forward deployed Navel Forces with high quality repairs. We are fortunate they help so much.

Huge charges to our taxpayers for these (Favors)
Better bet they they kiss our ass for doing it all on the front for nothing from them. Oh, a little in the rear.

We are energy self reliant. They are not.
Our men and women are at risk, Japan, Naa. (and it's free)
Bonus Japan!
We are fools.

Posted by: American Idiot at June 16, 2025 11:01 PM (R6Hhu)

219
Reckon the new Naked Gun explains how Frank Drebin could have an Irish son?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 16, 2025 11:01 PM (CwOZE)

220 I'm not in the mood for trolls tonight. I have an early flight tomorrow for family vacay in and around Yellowstone
Posted by: Otto Pen at June 16, 2025 11:00 PM (sJHOI)

Please to break step when marching around the caldera.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 11:02 PM (CQGxP)

221 PAL = Permissive Action Link

Think of them as complicated interactive safeties to prevent undesired or unauthorized detonation of nukes.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 11:02 PM (1m82a)

222 I just got informed that I got the job. I'm gonna get shit faced in celebration. Y'all drink several for me too.
Posted by: BifBewalski

Cheers!

Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2025 11:02 PM (DgGvY)

223 I think Greenpeace folded
Posted by: Don Black at June 16, 2025 11:00 PM (AOsQT)

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Wasn't it sued into oblivion by someone?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 11:02 PM (JkO4W)

224 Why would you set off a nuke right next to your own underground nuclear facility? That would be moronic - the energy couples much more strongly to rock; you'd have a good chance of leveling the place.

Posted by: Locarno at June 16, 2025 11:03 PM (wiYsG)

225
Super! What is it?

Posted by: Braenyard

I'm the son of a sea cook!

Posted by: Mortimer Brewster at June 16, 2025 11:03 PM (G5+As)

226 >>I don't understand where the idea that Trump would not use military force if necessary comes from. Absolutely he wants peace but events drive .

Trump has been saying for many years, long before he got into politics, that Iran must never get a nuclear bomb. Anyone with an ounce of common sense has been saying the same thing for obvious reasons.

Iran has been at war with us for decades. They sponsor terrorist proxies that hit us, take hostages and support our enemies like China. Iran is the leading state sponsor of terror in the world and much of it is has been targeted at the country they call The Great Satan. That would be us.

Trump obviously is not part of the neocon war first crowd but he is also not stupid. No sane person believes that if the terrorist in Iran got a nuke they wouldn't use it and once a nuclear war starts the entire world will be involved. This isn't 1945. An nuke today would start WWIII.

I doubt Bibi loves war. I doubt most people who carry want to shoot someone. But people carry because sometimes you don't get a choice. Trump isn't a warmononger or a commenter. I voted for him because I trust his judgement to use force only when he has no choice.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2025 11:03 PM (PQWix)

227 213 I'm not in the mood for trolls tonight. I have an early flight tomorrow for family vacay in and around Yellowstone
Posted by: Otto Pen

My tummy hurts (burp)

Posted by: Yellowstone Caldera at June 16, 2025 11:03 PM (sAmhv)

228 Sounds like a key feature.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 11:03 PM (P9gC0)

229 Watch the Naked Gun trailer, I LOLed a few times ymmv of course

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 11:03 PM (YwEeS)

230 Ya know, the Iranian leaders may not have robust control on those devices. I am sure they have no PALs to prevent detonation unless authorized, for example.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 11:00 PM (u82oZ)

I suddenly pictured a Persian Slim Pickens, astride a falling bomb.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 16, 2025 11:04 PM (T+iUJ)

231 President Trump is about to reshape the Middle East. The Mullahs will fall and a pro-Trump government will take their place.

Hope the Secret Service is at its best. No doubt libs or desperate Iranian agents will try to take out Trump before he takes his victory lap.

Posted by: Diabeetus at June 16, 2025 11:04 PM (SawFp)

232 224 Why would you set off a nuke right next to your own underground nuclear facility? That would be moronic

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It saves an expensive bus ride to a remote site. The pallets of cash aren't coming in anymore, you know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 11:04 PM (JkO4W)

233 Wasn't it sued into oblivion by someone?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 11:02 PM (JkO4W)

They should have never released Hulk Hogan's sex tape

Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 11:04 PM (D7oie)

234 The Fontaine-Pajot (Tobago) was actually nicer in some ways than the Leopard, though the (to me) unimaginable luxury of AC certainly came in handy in the Caribbean.

Cicero the thing is the Moorings approach is I guess sort of a leveraged time-share thing, so $$ not so bad. Think he faces the choice in 5 years whether to buy it outright. But this friend is not wealthy by a long shot. Cats are an oppressed class in marinas of course because they usually have to take end spots, or scanty special berths that can handle their beam. The Moorings thing makes all those headaches go away.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 11:05 PM (1m82a)

235 I was wrong

- A North Dakota jury ordered Greenpeace to pay over $660 million in damages to Energy Transfer, the company behind the Dakota Access Pipeline. The jury found Greenpeace liable for defamation and other claims related to its role in the 2016–2017 protests. Greenpeace has vowed to appeal, warning that the ruling could bankrupt its U.S. operations and chill free speech.
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thus spake Copilot

Posted by: Don Black at June 16, 2025 11:05 PM (AOsQT)

236 steevy

Unless the device is miniaturized, a difficult process, the Iranians may have no way to deliver a nuke.

And with the loss of many of their their launchers, the Israeli Arrow-3, David's Sling, Iron Dome, Iron Beam and USN SM-6 systems can stop the missile before it gets close.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 11:05 PM (u82oZ)

237 215 I miss Shibumi.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 11:01 PM (D7oie)

She was terrific.
Chased off by a cob who thought his job was to ban Covid opinions he thought unscientific.

Posted by: netherworld corncob at June 16, 2025 11:06 PM (f/lUk)

238 If the Iranians have indeed tested a nuke, their only plan of action is to mount a nuke on a ballistic missile and detonate it over Israel to fry Israeli weapons systems, as well as all the other electrical equipment.

I doubt the US will allow that to happen. Trump will know how to handle it.

Trump will bring peace to the Middle East like he is to the Russia-Ukraine war.

Posted by: Diabeetus at June 16, 2025 11:06 PM (SawFp)

239 They should have never released Hulk Hogan's sex tape
Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 11:04 PM (D7oie)

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Wait. I thought it was Flipper.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 11:06 PM (JkO4W)

240 210 Romeo13

Ya know, the Iranian leaders may not have robust control on those devices. I am sure they have no PALs to prevent detonation unless authorized, for example.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 11:00 PM (u82oZ)

But it also sounds like the Israelis killed most of the scientists they needed to make one work...

So unless it was sitting in storage, ready to go... and some low level commander decided to bring on Armageddon and potentially destroy his own country...

Yeah... find it hard to believe the let off an Atomic Bomb.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 11:07 PM (mP0Kj)

241 221 PAL = Permissive Action Link

Think of them as complicated interactive safeties to prevent undesired or unauthorized detonation of nukes.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 11:02 PM (1m82a)

My boys had a PAL work-around built into the weapons at Burpleson AFB. Wing Attack Plan R was GO no matter what the Commies sympathizers in Washington ordered!

Posted by: Colonel Jack D. Ripper at June 16, 2025 11:07 PM (aBgBM)

242 Is it in America's interest for Iran to have nuclear weapons?

If not, is there a thing we are doing and are going to do about it, and is that thing (or range of things), worth the cost involved?

That's a discussion worth having. Mindlessly screaming "NO MORE WAR" is not.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 10:41 PM (Dnobf)

How do we deal with potential or even theoretical threats.

I think the our practice should be, if we are attacked, to respond with catastrophic force.

Posted by: Sadowski at June 16, 2025 11:07 PM (fS3tz)

243 Would a nuke have to be put on a big slow missile?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 11:07 PM (P9gC0)

244 216 PALs are what?
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Also, Canada's federal firearms licence! [I've got mine!]

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 11:07 PM (2yoRf)

245 225
Super! What is it?

Posted by: Braenyard

Lateral transfer within the company, but a path to senior technical fellow, that I don't have where I'm at.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 11:07 PM (MsrgL)

246 Here is the Holloway report on Operation Eagle Claw.
https://tinyurl.com/vasw4tb8

Mayaguez, it was easy to shuffle off the news because a: people wanted to forget about Vietnam and b: it was over by the time the media really caught wind.

Unlike "America Held Hostage" every night on ABC.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 11:07 PM (skGot)

247 I miss Shibumi.
Posted by: Kindltot

I as well. Hope her marriage to that chemist is still going strong.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 11:07 PM (u82oZ)

248 And if I get her in my sights... Boom Boom! Out go the lights! Posted by: 496

Boom Boom
The Animals
Live @ Wembley 1965
https://youtu.be/8f62s8bGiic?t=75

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 11:08 PM (NXz8h)

249 Would a nuke have to be put on a big slow missile?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 11:07 PM (P9gC0)

The joke used to be that Pakistan's delivery system was UPS

Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 11:09 PM (D7oie)

250 Whoops, that is NOT a link to the Holloway Report, let me look again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 11:09 PM (skGot)

251 I've never heard "Pass the Dutchie" but I remember National Lampoon reporting the lyrics as "Pee doobie-doobie in the left fondue."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 16, 2025 11:09 PM (CHHv1)

252 Also, Iran is pretty seismically active anyway, about 2100 events of magnitude 2.0 or greater per year. So, on average, we'd expect a lot of little natural earthquakes in the region all the time.
Posted by: publius

2.0? Does that even count? That probably only knocks over epileptic parkinson's patients with vertigo and inner-ear infections.

Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2025 11:10 PM (DgGvY)

253 Oh, Hay!

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
6h
BREAKING: Democrat NY State Attorney General Letitia James is conducting misconduct probes into local NY law enforcement for allegedly helping the Trump admin and ICE arrest criminal illegal aliens.

Democrats want to protect illegals so much that they are now going after their own police. INSANE.

Jun 16, 2025 · 8:50 PM UTC

Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 11:11 PM (D7oie)

254 Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 11:05 PM (1m82a)

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I vaguely remember Moorings but I never looked into how it works.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 11:12 PM (JkO4W)

255 226

'Trump isn't a warmonger or a commenter. I voted for him because I trust his judgement to use force only when he has no choice.'

I hope you're right. I also hope the war is brief. I'm a lot less excited about it than some.
I think we can bomb Iran deeper into the Stone Age but I doubt completely our ability to install a better regime in Iran.
I also fear the effect of an elective war on the MAGA coalition.
Sorry to be a downer. I'll be off to bed now.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 16, 2025 11:12 PM (3wi/L)

256 Apparently the latest Iranian missile attack was weak, and gay. No impacts (from what I saw reported). All failures or interceptions. Have not yet seen any estimates of failures, which I figure to be significant (these are not Swiss or Japanese rockets being used). There was an interceptor failure the other night, at Nefavit airbase in Israel. Iron Dome or Arrow, don't recall. Video was nasty.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 11:13 PM (1m82a)

257 What war? We aren't at war.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 11:14 PM (YwEeS)

258 Apropos of nothing, I've been going down a bit of a Robotech rabbit hole lately. I was 10 when the series first aired, and it's kind of hitting me that the older woman (Lisa Hayes) that I had a crush on as a kid is now half my age. Or I'm twice hers, whatever.

Any way, I found audio books on youtube and was going to listen to them, but it turns out only two had been done. I had read all of them, including the Sentinels based on the ill fated second season of the series and The End of the Circle, which capped all of it, and was hoping to reexperience it all but it was not to be.

So I found that several youtubers had posted the series, and played those in the background for a couple of weeks. And thought I was done.

But I made one more search and found that, apparently at some point, the original Macross got an English dub, and about five months ago, someone helpfully posted that. Minmay's original songs seem better, though I still prefer the soundtrack from my youth.

Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 11:14 PM (Dnobf)

259 >> 2.0? Does that even count?

That's the range that massive explosions undeground would create. A small 1kt nuke undeground would make over a 4.0 event.

Now, undeground explosions, especially nuclear, have unique signatures that distinguish them from regular earthquakes, at least if they are big enough. An undeground nuke test would be readily apparent to seismic analysis.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 16, 2025 11:14 PM (w6EFb)

260 I hope you're right. I also hope the war is brief. I'm a lot less excited about it than some.
I think we can bomb Iran deeper into the Stone Age but I doubt completely our ability to install a better regime in Iran.

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If we just bombed them back into the Achaemenid era it would still be a major improvement. Plus, Zoroastrianism!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 16, 2025 11:15 PM (JkO4W)

261 253 Oh, Hay!

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
6h
BREAKING: Democrat NY State Attorney General Letitia James is conducting misconduct probes into local NY law enforcement for allegedly helping the Trump admin and ICE arrest criminal illegal aliens.

Democrats want to protect illegals so much that they are now going after their own police. INSANE.

Jun 16, 2025 · 8:50 PM UTC

Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 11:11 PM (D7oie)

Meanwhile, Kathy Hochul finishes her sixth after-dinner double martini and prepares to apply more Plastic Wood filler to her face so it will harden by the time she wakes up.

Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 11:16 PM (aBgBM)

262 If it doesn’t rain, it pours!
I have a 2013 Honda Accord with ABS sensor issue turning all sorts of lights on the dashboard red.
Does anyone know if I can get the sensor disconnected to turn warning lights out?
The car is running fine but cost of replacing sensor is a lot.

Posted by: Iris- in memory of Jim SND at June 16, 2025 11:16 PM (Xo+UM)

263 What a tongue bath... the Holloway report

First, the group unanimously concluded that no one action or lack of action caused the operation to fail -- and conversely, no one of our identified alternatives or all the alternatives could have guaranteed success.

Second, as I mentioned earlier, we unanimously agreed that the people who commanded, planned, and executed the operation were the most competent and best qualified for the task of all available. There were none better.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 11:16 PM (skGot)

264 PALs are what?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 11:01 PM (P9gC0)

Good at attracting unwanted attention to your party in Ravenloft.

Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 11:16 PM (Dnobf)

265 Hmm didn't Obama get the SC to rule that the state of Arizona could not shut down the border if the Feds told them not to? The reverse is also true in that case.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 11:17 PM (YwEeS)

266 Now that's interesting:

Pakistan closed down their border crossings with Iran. Apparently, they don't want refugees.

Posted by: Orson at June 16, 2025 11:17 PM (dIske)

267 >I think we can bomb Iran deeper into the Stone Age but I doubt completely our ability to install a better regime in Iran.
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Trump is not into Bush-style nation building. If the Iranians want to sweep away the mullahcracy and get a fresh start, they will have to do it for themselves.

Posted by: Don Black at June 16, 2025 11:18 PM (AOsQT)

268 Have a great night, everyone.

May you all be blessed with bliss.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 11:19 PM (u82oZ)

269 Orson there's also a spot of trouble down there with the Baluchis (both sides) who have been fighting the national governments (both sides) for .... well forever. Have no idea if border closures are related to this, or to - as you correctly speculate - possible "refugee" flows.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 11:19 PM (1m82a)

270 One America News
@OANN
MATT GAETZ: “THE LAST TIME AMERICA LISTENED TO NETANYAHU BASED ON FALSE CLAIMS OF WMDs, WE ENDED UP POURING CASH AND BLOOD ALL OVER THE SANDS OF MESOPOTAMIA, AND IN THE END, WE ONLY MADE IRAN STRONGER!”

@MattGaetz
: “The regime change war in Iraq cost our great nation treasure, credibility, and the blood of our bravest patriots. It resulted in broken limbs, broken families, and broken minds. It also resulted in a broken Iraq, which, ironically, has now become a vassal state of, wait for it … Iran!”

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 16, 2025 11:20 PM (TGPs7)

271 263 What a tongue bath... the Holloway report

First, the group unanimously concluded that no one action or lack of action caused the operation to fail -- and conversely, no one of our identified alternatives or all the alternatives could have guaranteed success.

Second, as I mentioned earlier, we unanimously agreed that the people who commanded, planned, and executed the operation were the most competent and best qualified for the task of all available. There were none better.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 11:16 PM (skGot)

When you abandon troops on an enemy-occupied island, if you don't say everyone is blameless, you weren't the guy the Joint Chiefs believed you were. A Team Player.

Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 11:21 PM (aBgBM)

272 Look at the all caps hysteria. We haven't done shit except protect our interests.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2025 11:22 PM (YwEeS)

273 I hope you're right. I also hope the war is brief. I'm a lot less excited about it than some.
I think we can bomb Iran deeper into the Stone Age but I doubt completely our ability to install a better regime in Iran.

The time Trump will lose me is when he cares about installing a better regime anywhere. That's what got us to this place. Believing we had the wisdom to install better regimes everywhere in the world.

The job of a POTUS is to make our government better for the American people. Sometimes that includes taking down foreign regimes that threaten the American people but the days of nation building are hopefully behind us. Trump spent much of his first 6 month on the job telling Iran to make a deal and drop their mesianic bullshit and he would help them. But they will never get a nuke. That's why his first foreign trip was the Middle East. They chose poorly.

No matter what Trump does the mullahs will hate him and us. They are religious lunatics. Just because you don't want war with them doesn't mean they don't want war with us.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2025 11:22 PM (PQWix)

274 My boys had a PAL work-around built into the weapons at Burpleson AFB. Wing Attack Plan R was GO no matter what the Commies sympathizers in Washington ordered!

Ain't nobody ever got the Go code yet. And old Ripper wouldn't be giving us plan R unless them Russkies had already clobbered Washington and a lot of other towns with a sneak attack.

Posted by: MAJOR T.J. KONG at June 16, 2025 11:26 PM (R6Hhu)

275 Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2025 11:03 PM (PQWix)

I agree with everything you said in that comment.

There seems to be an issue with the normies on team Trump that they heard him talk about Ukraine and Oct 7, saying those things would have never happened if he had been President, and their take away is that he's promised them no new wars.
I know it's not what he said, though he did rightfully brag about not having to start any (though he did whack solemani), but that's seems to be the kernel of their thought.

I'm not sure how to get around that. We obviously didn't just celebrate 250 years of the US Army because no military action will ever be needed if we're just clever enough at negotiating, but a lot of people seem to think that.

Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 11:26 PM (Dnobf)

276 If we just bombed them back into the Achaemenid era ...
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[flips to the Chapter '550 B.C.']

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2025 11:27 PM (XeU6L)

277 But one yuuuuge element is missing in that, to date: prosecution of employers. A glaring and disastrous omission.

For Decades. One thing you can be certain. When something like this happens, or doesn’t happen, there is only one reason. The government wants it that way. No other possibility exists.

I remember thinking on 9/11/2001 that the government will finally get serious about the border.

Ha! What a naive dumb shit I was. I thought there were still elements in charge that truly believed in defending America.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 16, 2025 11:27 PM (ixIgP)

278 267 >I think we can bomb Iran deeper into the Stone Age but I doubt completely our ability to install a better regime in Iran.
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Trump is not into Bush-style nation building. If the Iranians want to sweep away the mullahcracy and get a fresh start, they will have to do it for themselves.
Posted by: Don Black
-------------------------------

He's going to turn negotiations between Iran and Israel over to Putin.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 11:28 PM (DS3M8)

279 Probably 80% of what Tucker says, I agree with, so I'm not willing to toss him to the curb.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 10:35 PM (mP0Kj)

80? I’ve seen people tossed to the side at 97.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 16, 2025 11:28 PM (/CkK4)

280 I think the our practice should be, if we are attacked, to respond with catastrophic force.
Posted by: Sadowski at June 16, 2025 11:07 PM (fS3tz)

Yes, I would like to thin that revenge would at least be motivation for retaliatory action.

The problem is, with nuclear weapons, we're talking about a city or three of ours getting vaporized, and a nation we figure is reposnible, being exterminated in trade.

We probably don't want to get to that point.

Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 11:31 PM (Dnobf)

281 If it doesn’t rain, it pours!
I have a 2013 Honda Accord with ABS sensor issue turning all sorts of lights on the dashboard red.
Does anyone know if I can get the sensor disconnected to turn warning lights out?
The car is running fine but cost of replacing sensor is a lot.
Posted by: Iris- in memory of Jim SND at June 16, 2025 11:16 PM (Xo+UM)

ABS sensors are usually wheel speed sensors. One on each wheel. They are basically electromagnets, and not too expensive. But labor to change them might run into several hours, as in some cases removal of the brake rotor is required. If it's just a severed wire to the sensor, you might be able to splice it.

You could try removing the ABS fuse, if there is one. That should yield just one code, "ABS not working". Car should run fine without it. Of course ABS won't work, but it's not working now, is it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2025 11:31 PM (biyIY)

282 Just because you don't want war with them doesn't mean they don't want war with us.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2025 11:22 PM (PQWix)

It only takes one side to declare war (Death To America! and taking our Embassy, oh yeah, and the proxies), the other side has two choices: Surrender or fight. Sometimes war is not your call, but someone else's call. After that, you've got those two choices.

Iran/the mullahs have yet to pay a price for the Embassy and the Act Of War that it was. That still rankles.

Posted by: RickZ at June 16, 2025 11:32 PM (gKDq2)

283 John Jackson
@hissgoescobra

Lots of confirmation rolling now in that tankers are ablaze in the Strait of Hormuz.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 16, 2025 11:33 PM (TGPs7)

284 It fun to watch all this action and drama.
What? Money to support our oil/blood which we need to live?
....oh no...That what America do.

Posted by: THE JAPANESE at June 16, 2025 11:34 PM (R6Hhu)

285
I'm not sure how to get around that. We obviously didn't just celebrate 250 years of the US Army because no military action will ever be needed if we're just clever enough at negotiating, but a lot of people seem to think that.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 11:26 PM (Dnobf)

Trump is still cleaning up Biden's Handlers' mess. If you wanted to avoid Iran starting wars, don't run oil up to $100 a barrel. Strategery is depriving your adversary of the things they need to make war, not avoiding conflict at all costs.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 16, 2025 11:34 PM (pIfcn)

286 Thanks AOP

Posted by: Iris- in memory of Jim SND at June 16, 2025 11:37 PM (Xo+UM)

287 OSINTtechnical @Osinttechnical 22m
I believe I found the "ships on fire in the Gulf of Oman" cause.

Appears that the tankers ADALYNN and FRONT EAGLE collided, possibly setting one of the vessels ablaze.

OSINTtechnical @Osinttechnical 18m
Collision at 2114 UTC, fire image taken at 2119 UTC, and FIRMS detect at 2140 UTC.

OSINTtechnical @Osinttechnical 16m
FIRMS detection and collision location were within .3 miles.

https://tinyurl.com/txkcb9zx

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 11:39 PM (2yoRf)

288 I have a 2013 Honda Accord with ABS sensor issue turning all sorts of lights on the dashboard red.
Does anyone know if I can get the sensor disconnected to turn warning lights out?
The car is running fine but cost of replacing sensor is a lot.
Posted by: Iris- in memory of Jim SND at June 16, 2025 11:16 PM (Xo+UM)

A piece of tape over the indicator is the best solution!

Scotty Kilmer says you can ignore that. You still have brakes, just not anti-lock. The cost is not worth replacing.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 16, 2025 11:39 PM (0eaVi)

289 We give you bases in our country for a huge price.
Now you want us to pay you to defend our oil supply?

Where Hunter and democrats who we can pay off with Hoochie Koochie girls and cocaine?

Posted by: THE KOREANS at June 16, 2025 11:39 PM (R6Hhu)

290 Shinebox Capital @sinistrorous 15m Replying to @Osinttechnical
Adalynn is from Antigua. Front Eagle from Liberia.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 11:39 PM (2yoRf)

291 There seems to be an issue with the normies on team Trump that they heard him talk about Ukraine and Oct 7, saying those things would have never happened if he had been President, and their take away is that he's promised them no new wars
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 11:26 PM (Dnobf)

Trump says a bunch of stupid shit. And he regularly grossly exaggerates things that are nominally true.

Most Trump fans, and I am one, take this for granted.

Posted by: Sadowski at June 16, 2025 11:41 PM (fS3tz)

292 Oil futures are yawning at the action tonight.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 16, 2025 11:42 PM (/CkK4)

293 One question: Who do you want sleeping next to Melania when the strategery alarm goes off at 3 am? Yes or No are acceptable answers.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 11:43 PM (NXz8h)

294 AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 57m
June 17 (Reuters) - British maritime security firm Ambrey said early on Tuesday it was aware of an incident 22 nautical miles east of Khor Fakkan in the United Arab Emirates, near the Strait of Hormuz.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2025 11:43 PM (2yoRf)

295 Hmmm...

Jason Brodsky
@JasonMBrodsky
#Israel’s ambassador to the U.S. says when the dust settles you will see some surprises on Thursday night and Friday that will make the beeper operation almost seem simple.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 16, 2025 11:44 PM (TGPs7)

296 281 If it doesn’t rain, it pours!
I have a 2013 Honda Accord with ABS sensor issue turning all sorts of lights on the dashboard red.
Does anyone know if I can get the sensor disconnected to turn warning lights out?
The car is running fine but cost of replacing sensor is a lot.
Posted by: Iris- in memory of Jim SND at June 16, 2025 11:16 PM (Xo+UM)

I have a 2012 accord, so I feel qualified to ask a stupid question. Is there a switch to turn off the ABS? Mine has a switch on the left of the steering wheel. I live in a snowy area and in the winter sometimes I skid intentionally and the car was breaking for me. Sometimes I need momentum to slide the ass end around through six inches of slush when turning.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 16, 2025 11:44 PM (pIfcn)

297 ABS is not a legal requirement. It's one of those expensive things they added on to your vehicle to make you feel more secure. -probably get around some CA law too-

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 11:45 PM (DS3M8)

298 >>It fun to watch all this action and drama.
What? Money to support our oil/blood which we need to live?
....oh no...That what America do.

Do you know when the last time anyone gave a shit what Japan thought about world affairs? Almost 80 years ago. Then they got their shit pushed in and nobody has cared since.

News flash, being the sole super power in the world which also happens to be the country with the most freedom and quality of life has a cost. If you would rather live in a 2nd tier country as a subject then go do it. Nobody is going to stop you. But stop whining that you want the privliges but none of the responsibility.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2025 11:46 PM (PQWix)

299
I watched the Naked Gun trailer and smiled once or twice. But lo! There at IMDb was also a trailer for a Netflix series starring Eric Bana and Sam Neill. Some thriller about a killer in Yosemite. I'll watch the first 10 minutes when it comes out and see if I want to keep watching.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 16, 2025 11:48 PM (wbZPZ)

300 Mo senator mike lee make memes on twitter about shootings of democrats in Minnesota and gay protester in Mo town. Democrat senators whine and complain. This is why voters think democrats are soft tofu eating snowflakes. When a republKKKan dies like reagan or scalia I post he is now with the devil burning in hell!!

Posted by: raimondo at June 16, 2025 11:49 PM (dELdU)

301 283 John Jackson
@hissgoescobra

Lots of confirmation rolling now in that tankers are ablaze in the Strait of Hormuz.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 16, 2025 11:33 PM (TGPs7)

And I am not surprised at all. Iran has always threatened Tankers in the Gulf... hell... I did those ops 30 years ago.

They believe they can hold the West hostage through energy... but... if we just get the damn Dems and Greens out of the way, AMERICA can supply the West with oil and gas.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 11:50 PM (mP0Kj)

302 Posted by: raimondo at June 16, 2025 11:49 PM (dELdU)

I'm not drunk enough to make sense of your rambling.

Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 11:50 PM (Dnobf)

303 Netanyahu says Israel won’t rule out killing Khamenei: It would ‘end the conflict’
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 11:50 PM (DS3M8)

304 299
I watched the Naked Gun trailer and smiled once or twice. But lo! There at IMDb was also a trailer for a Netflix series starring Eric Bana and Sam Neill. Some thriller about a killer in Yosemite. I'll watch the first 10 minutes when it comes out and see if I want to keep watching.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 16, 2025 11:48 PM (wbZPZ)

Having an Anti Gun Brit Star, in the Naked Gun reboot?

Yeah... I'll pass.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 16, 2025 11:51 PM (mP0Kj)

305 I'm not drunk enough to make sense of your rambling.

You never can be. It has to be filtered through hallucinogens.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 16, 2025 11:52 PM (lUFok)

306 I'm not drunk enough to make sense of your rambling.
Posted by: Methos

He..... came here to tell all the Democrat Morons that they're not badass enough? I think?

Maybe he's off his meds.

Posted by: mikeski at June 16, 2025 11:53 PM (DgGvY)

307 @Amena__Bakr
·
10m
Update from our terminal it appears the incident was caused by two vessels colliding.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2025 11:54 PM (PQWix)

308 I think it would be foolish to come this close to overthrowing that Nazi regime, and then negotiate it back to status quo ante-- even if the nukes are gone.

Let Israel kill Khomeini. Then set up a small liberated zone in Kurdish territory, or around a port city. Recognize a new provisional govt. See if enough Persians salute to make it stick. I suspect residual support for Iran's Nazi regime may be hollow-- kind of like Tsarist Russia.

Risky? You betcha. So is 45 more years of the Mullahs.

I think rolling the iron dice is the lesser of two evils. Kick in the rotten door.

Posted by: mnw at June 16, 2025 11:55 PM (kd60y)

309 You never can be. It has to be filtered through hallucinogens.
-
Well, nuts. I can't aford that shit.

Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 11:56 PM (Dnobf)

310
Having an Anti Gun Brit Star, in the Naked Gun reboot?

Yeah... I'll pass.
Posted by: Romeo13

=============

I MIGHT watch it to see how Pamela Anderson is doing 29.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 16, 2025 11:56 PM (wbZPZ)

311 301 283 John Jackson
@hissgoescobra

Lots of confirmation rolling now in that tankers are ablaze in the Strait of Hormuz.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 16, 2025 11:33 PM (TGPs7)

If true, it's fucking on mow

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 16, 2025 11:58 PM (WF/xn)

312 Sail away, sail away sail away

It can be lunch time with Enya now in my head

Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2025 11:58 PM (+Pco0)

313 Update from our terminal it appears the incident was caused by two vessels colliding.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2025 11:54 PM (PQWix)

The shipping companies hire former US Navy female captains?

Posted by: RickZ at June 16, 2025 11:58 PM (gKDq2)

314 The problem is, with nuclear weapons, we're talking about a city or three of ours getting vaporized, and a nation we figure is reposnible, being exterminated in trade.
.
.
Which cities? I could think of a couple I'd trade. .

Posted by: FireNWater at June 17, 2025 12:00 AM (4/bhS)

315 Jun 17, 2025, 3:22 AM (GMT+3)
_US Defense Secretary Hegseth announces new defensive deployments

_ military had moved a significant number of refueling aircraft to Europe to provide President Donald Trump with operational options amid rising Middle East tensions.

_Published: Jun 17, 2025, 1:42 AM (GMT+3) Updated: 4:12
"Iran should have signed the 'deal' I told them to sign. What a shame, and waste of human life. Simply stated, IRAN CAN NOT HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON. I said it over and over again! Everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran!" he wrote.

_In a subsequent post, Trump wrote, "AMERICA FIRST means many GREAT things, including the fact that, IRAN CAN NOT HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!"
...“I'm in constant touch [with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu], and as I've been saying, I think a deal will be signed, or something will happen, but a deal will be signed, and I think Iran is foolish not to sign one. Iran should have signed the deal,” he added.

“I think Iran basically is at the negotiating table. They want to make a deal, and as soon as I leave here, we're going to be doing something,” the President stated.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:00 AM (DS3M8)

316 correction to 308:

sb Khamenei not Khomeini

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 12:00 AM (kd60y)

317 Word around the interwebz is Trump called in National Security Council to meet in Situation Room upon his return to DC from Canada. ETA is 2-3 AM EST.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 17, 2025 12:02 AM (pIfcn)

318 312 Sail away, sail away sail away

It can be lunch time with Enya now in my head
Posted by: Skip

There are worse things to have in your head. Enya is awesome, second in record sales only to U2, out of the thousands of great Irish musicians of the past hundred years.

Posted by: Owns Her Own Castle, Too at June 17, 2025 12:02 AM (G5+As)

319 Ayatolda Hominy

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 17, 2025 12:03 AM (WF/xn)

320 Posted by: raimondo
———

Ask Your Doctor If Thorazine Is Right For You

Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2025 12:03 AM (aNeGK)

321 Or killing Khamenei could start WWIII

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 12:05 AM (+Pco0)

322 correction to 308:

sb Khamenei not Khomeini
Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 12:00 AM (kd60y)

Give me an 'A"! Give me an 'O'!

~ Anti-Supreme Mullah Cheerleading Squad

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 12:05 AM (gKDq2)

323 Or killing Khamenei could start WWIII
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 12:05 AM (+Pco0)

Khomeini, maybe. But not him, not Khameini. Doesn't have the same juice.

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 12:07 AM (gKDq2)

324

What kind of deal would Iran sign? You can't trust them.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 12:07 AM (3ek7K)

325 322

Another reason I hate them is that the bastards' names are so hard to spell, or even keep straight.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 12:08 AM (kd60y)

326 I MIGHT watch it to see how Pamela Anderson is doing 29.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 16, 2025 11:56 PM (wbZPZ)

I'm sure the 'Good Parts' will be posted online for free really quickly.

I'm tired of Hollyweird just trying to glom onto things which were popular and successful from the past.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 12:08 AM (mP0Kj)

327 >>@OANN
MATT GAETZ: “THE LAST TIME

Am I the only one who thinks he looks like he is about 2/3 of a Downs Baby?

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 12:08 AM (uZ2FS)

328 I always put 2 bottles of water frozen in my lunch box for refrigeration, except today. Luckily it's not hot nor sunny.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 12:08 AM (+Pco0)

329 Trying to boot up an old Emachines desktop. Sounds like it is going through the boot sequence, but no video output. New BIOS battery installed. It has on-board video. Tried two different monitors, no joy.

Any bright ideas out there?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 12:08 AM (biyIY)

330 323 Or killing Khamenei could start WWIII
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 12:05 AM (+Pco0)

Khomeini, maybe. But not him, not Khameini. Doesn't have the same juice.
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 12:07 AM (gKDq2)

Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla... Kock a Mamey!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 12:09 AM (mP0Kj)

331 >>What kind of deal would Iran sign?

Anything that leaves them in Power and Alive.

Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 12:09 AM (uZ2FS)

332
garrett,

I said months ago that something ain't right about Gaetz.

Of course my opinion was panned on here.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 12:09 AM (3ek7K)

333 303 Netanyahu says Israel won’t rule out killing Khamenei: It would ‘end the conflict’
---
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 11:50 PM (DS3M

I would much prefer that the Persians themselves kill Khamenei.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 17, 2025 12:10 AM (8hxDK)

334 Word around the interwebz is Trump called in National Security Council to meet in Situation Room upon his return to DC from Canada. ETA is 2-3 AM EST.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 17, 2025 12:02 AM (pIfc

The invasion of Alberta is a go?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 12:11 AM (T+iUJ)

335 329 Trying to boot up an old Emachines desktop. Sounds like it is going through the boot sequence, but no video output. New BIOS battery installed. It has on-board video. Tried two different monitors, no joy.

Any bright ideas out there?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 12:08 AM (biyIY)

Are you getting any beeps, and/or are there any status leds on the motherboard? Do you have a spare video card? If so that's probably your best bet to test.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 17, 2025 12:12 AM (8hxDK)

336 Oil futures are yawning because Iran is already collapsing, meaning this is not going to be a long drawn out war. And I believe that a negotiated end is unlikely, because Iran’s government is incapable of rationally assessing their future: they’re more likely to decide to hide in a hole until the 13th Imam comes to save them or something.

BUT that does not mean the war will last long; the government of the Mullah’s is going to collapse. Plenty of signs it is starting to fragment already. Only thing still holding it together is the IRGC, but they are taking a beating.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 12:12 AM (47gcY)

337 I would much prefer that the Persians themselves kill Khamenei.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 17, 2025 12:10 AM (8hxDK)

Agreed. And I would go one step further: I would prefer that Israel does the heavy lifting. No American planes over Iran. We can supply them with what they need, but no direct involvement.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 17, 2025 12:13 AM (wGPHk)

338 71 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

So it was just WUNNA? Not BOFA?

Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (RFPHU)
----
No ricochet .....
The white ball is now the blackball.

Posted by: Ciampino - could be a red ball at June 17, 2025 12:15 AM (sPQoU)

339
Yep CBD, that is the right way for us to handle the situation.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 12:15 AM (3ek7K)

340 I'm still here !

Posted by: Pamela's Pussy at June 17, 2025 12:15 AM (WF/xn)

341 "Oil futures are yawning because Iran is already collapsing, meaning this is not going to be a long drawn out war."

The Russian invasion of Ukraine has entered the chat.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 12:15 AM (T+iUJ)

342 @JasonMBrodsky
1h
#Israel’s ambassador to the U.S. says when the dust settles you will see some surprises on Thursday night and Friday that will make the beeper operation almost seem simple.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:16 AM (DS3M8)

343 71 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

So it was just WUNNA? Not BOFA?

Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM

Bustin Balls

Posted by: LAPD at June 17, 2025 12:16 AM (WF/xn)

344 Agreed. And I would go one step further: I would prefer that Israel does the heavy lifting. No American planes over Iran. We can supply them with what they need, but no direct involvement.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 17, 2025 12:13 AM (wGPHk)

So, the Ukraine Stratergery, but supplying competent people...

I'm on board.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 12:17 AM (mP0Kj)

345
The beeper thing was hilarious. Looking forward to the next thing, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at June 17, 2025 12:17 AM (3ek7K)

346 To quote Will Chamberlain on X tonite (no not Wilt):
We're watching the most one-sided major conflict in military history and I don't think most people have even come close to grappling with what that means.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 12:18 AM (47gcY)

347
🎵
Bibi told Donny
'bout a thing he saw
a big donut hat
and a wooly beard
Mullah Mullah...........
Mullah Mullah.
Mullah Mullah, Mullah Mullah, Mullah Mullah.

Watch it now watch it here he come!

Posted by: Don Black at June 17, 2025 12:18 AM (AOsQT)

348 Bustin Balls

Posted by: Mossad at June 17, 2025 12:19 AM (WF/xn)

349 338 71 Leading Report @LeadingReport Jun 15
BREAKING: LA ICE protester claims his testicle was ‘shattered’ by a rubber bullet fired by police.

So it was just WUNNA? Not BOFA?

Posted by: Doof at June 16, 2025 10:23 PM (RFPHU)

I'll never again hear the Stones song the same way.

Love and hope and sex and dreams
Are still surviving on the street
Look at me, I'm in tatters
I been shattered

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 17, 2025 12:19 AM (8hxDK)

350 Play stupid games one can get hurt.
Moral of the story , stop playing stupid games.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 12:19 AM (+Pco0)

351 R A W S A L E R T S

@rawsalerts
🚨#BREAKING: All U.S. military bases throughout the Indo-Pacific region have officially raised their Force Protection Condition from Alpha to Bravo indicating credible threats and prompting enhanced security measures across all installations

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 12:19 AM (TGPs7)

352 Bet he was throwing rocks, firecrackers or something.

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 12:20 AM (+Pco0)

353 hello, Habib ?

Ow my balls are gone

Posted by: Jamas at June 17, 2025 12:20 AM (WF/xn)

354 Note to self: never protest without wearing a cup.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 12:21 AM (rvwwT)

355
Well, I just saw this, somebody has hit on novel technique for teaching math concepts. Have AI generated celebrities do the lectures. Here's one with Sydney Sweeney and her boobs, along with some other celebrity idiot teaching some simple 3D Cartesian vector shit:

https://tinyurl.com/2yp987p4

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 17, 2025 12:21 AM (w6EFb)

356 This will be over when the old regeim is dead and a new government has cobbled it'self together.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:22 AM (DS3M8)

357 Are you getting any beeps, and/or are there any status leds on the motherboard? Do you have a spare video card? If so that's probably your best bet to test.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at June 17, 2025 12:12 AM (8hxDK)

I thought I had a whole drawer full of spare expansion cards. video among them. Gone. I think I uh, recycled them. Figured, "Hey I have this old NEC box here. Oh, oh. Too old, doesn't support SATA drives.

Guess I will power down this machine, put my old Win7 HD in as "slave", and boot to windows. I need to get my e-mail log-in parameters out of my old instance of Thunderbird.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 12:25 AM (biyIY)

358 346 To quote Will Chamberlain on X tonite (no not Wilt):
We're watching the most one-sided major conflict in military history and I don't think most people have even come close to grappling with what that means.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 12:18 AM (47gcY)

Nah, the most one sided military conflict is still Desert Storm.

And I still remember sitting on me Destroyer... going... wait... we stopped?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 12:28 AM (mP0Kj)

359 >>Agreed. And I would go one step further: I would prefer that Israel does the heavy lifting. No American planes over Iran. We can supply them with what they need, but no direct involvement.

I would prefer it but do you think it will really make any difference to the people who believe we control what Israel does on both sides of the equation?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 12:29 AM (PQWix)

360 Moabs, tomorrow. See yall in the morning. 'night

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 12:29 AM (DS3M8)

361 AOP : vintage electronics are always prone to defective electrolytic capacitors. While defective capacitors sometimes show evidence of leakage, this is not a diagnostic method. Power supply capacitors should be tested for electrical leakage at rated voltage. Testing for capacitance value alone is not particularly useful. If they are 20 years or older replacement.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2025 12:30 AM (2NfTM)

362 No, most one sided military conflict is the British-Zanzibar war. Started and ended in, what, thirty minutes?

Posted by: Locarno at June 17, 2025 12:31 AM (wiYsG)

363 Mother Of All Balls !

Posted by: IAF at June 17, 2025 12:33 AM (WF/xn)

364 >>@rawsalerts
🚨#BREAKING: All U.S. military bases throughout the Indo-Pacific region have officially raised their Force Protection Condition from Alpha to Bravo indicating credible threats and prompting enhanced security measures across all installations

Huh. Now why would our military bases be on alert when we haven't even farted in Iran's direction much less dropped a bomb?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 12:34 AM (PQWix)

365 Any bright ideas out there?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----
Shake your fist at it, and call it vulgar names. That's usually my first step.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2025 12:35 AM (XeU6L)

366 No matter how the current war ends, the U.S. will be blamed for it, i.e., condemned for it.

Headline: "European Leaders Call For Deescalation, Blame Iran For War and Chaos In Middle East"

Does anyone else see that as schizophrenic? The proper response to what Iran has done is... deescalation? Really?

As the song says, Let's give them something to talk about.

From what I've read, a new provisional govt for Iran has been in utero for a long time. Hope they leave the young Shah the hell out of it.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 12:35 AM (kd60y)

367 First night since last Thursday night that we did not head down to our building's shelter here in Jerusalem.

Gotta start my day. l8r.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 12:35 AM (n+rGF)

368 Iran deserves to be glassed for Beirut.

This is a long time coming.

Hopefully it's over quickly and the Iranian people rise up and reclaim their Repbulic.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 17, 2025 12:37 AM (XV/Pl)

369 🚨#BREAKING: All U.S. military bases throughout the Indo-Pacific region have officially raised their Force Protection Condition from Alpha to Bravo indicating credible threats and prompting enhanced security measures across all installations
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 12:19 AM (TGPs7)

I.wonder if this includes stateside? I gotta go to Ft Lewis on Wednesday.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 12:38 AM (W/lyH)

370 I would prefer it but do you think it will really make any difference to the people who believe we control what Israel does on both sides of the equation?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 12:29 AM (PQWix)

No, but those people don’t matter anymore. Just like what the G7 leaders Trump left behind tonight really don’t matter. What matters are our future relationships with the nations in the region - the Gulf States, Egypt, Turkey, a few others. Why them? Because outside of public rhetoric (which is just posturing) they are all going to know through their intelligence whether we did this for Israel, or whether Israel did it themselves.
And realizing through their intelligence services that Israel did this for itself is going to make every one of them sit back and say to themselves “ok, it is just not worth fucking around with the Israelis anymore.”
And that is going to be a huge change from the last 70 years of Mideast history. Gaza will have to be sorted, but Iran’s collapse will break the back of their resistance.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 12:38 AM (47gcY)

371
I'm tired of Hollyweird just trying to glom onto things which were popular and successful from the past.
Posted by: Romeo13

===============

Absolutely! It's crazy, top actors in Hollywood feel the same way, but nothing changes.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 12:38 AM (wbZPZ)

372 Update from our terminal it appears the incident was caused by two vessels colliding.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2025 11:54 PM (PQWix)

The shipping companies hire former US Navy female captains?
Posted by: RickZ at June 16, 2025 11:58 PM (gKDq2)

New Zealand Navy Captains who run aground are also in demand.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 12:39 AM (S/Y4j)

373 Any bright ideas out there?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----
Shake your fist at it, and call it vulgar names. That's usually my first step.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2025 12:35 AM (XeU6L)

I threaten with a baseball bat. Don't laugh - it's worked a couple of times!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 17, 2025 12:40 AM (S/Y4j)

374 370

Agreed.

Seems so obvious. Without the Nazi regime in Iran, the rest of this zh*t withers and dies.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 12:42 AM (kd60y)

375 I had an encounter with a spikey metal fence that sent me to the hospital with a laceration to my scrotum.

An Indian doctor showed up after the would was cleaned and was lightly examining the area with his hands.

He looked up while he was doing this and with an Indian accent asked,

"We're you born with just one ball?"

I totally freaked out and said NO!!!

He just laughed and said ,

"Just kidding.

Hahaha"

Posted by: pawn, one of many at June 17, 2025 12:43 AM (QB+5g)

376
Iran deserves to be glassed for Beirut.

This is a long time coming.

Posted by: Thomas Bender

================

That one for sure. I hope we have a chance to say something about it as the walls close in, the flames rise, and the floodwaters lap the rooftops. Write it in the sky maybe.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 12:43 AM (wbZPZ)

377 189 B-2s dropping those big bunker busters would make for some "seismic activity" indeed.
Posted by: publius

It is my understanding multiple bombs would have to be dropped down the same hole to knock out Fordo(w?). Where have I heard the before? Oh, yeah, Top Gun: Maverick.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 10:53 PM (NXz8h)

Use The Force.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 17, 2025 12:43 AM (QGaXH)

378 AOP : vintage electronics are always prone to defective electrolytic capacitors.
Posted by: Common Tater

That's not shocking at all.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2025 12:46 AM (cYBz/)

379 Huh. Now why would our military bases be on alert when we haven't even farted in Iran's direction much less dropped a bomb?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 12:34 AM (PQWix)

Aliens?

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 12:47 AM (Dnobf)

380
In 36 hours we'll be on to our next bullshit crisis and wont even remember any of this.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 12:47 AM (sIlkJ)

381 I.wonder if this includes stateside? I gotta go to Ft Lewis on Wednesday.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2025 12:38 AM (W/lyH)

Not to worry. Bravo just means more searches and delays. They don't close the gates until they get to Delta.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 17, 2025 12:47 AM (T+iUJ)

382
Remember the india-paki war? No.
Remember fake tapper's bullshit book? No.

Remember the L.A. Riots? No.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 12:49 AM (sIlkJ)

383 367 First night since last Thursday night that we did not head down to our building's shelter here in Jerusalem.”

It’s hard to get over how astounding this is! Israel is 4 days into a war with a regional power that promised to shoot 1,000 missiles a night at you, and you’re not even having to go to the shelters anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 12:49 AM (47gcY)

384 Try checking the turbo encabulator.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 17, 2025 12:50 AM (tnR5+)

385 Of course the reporter never thought to include the convoluted logic behind this, or maybe didn't even ask.
NEW: Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson has introduced an ordinance that would slap small businesses with fines of up to $500 per day if they have a sign covering more than 25% of public-facing window space.

https://tinyurl.com/yc43tcz4

Posted by: Ciampino - use postage stamp sized posters at June 17, 2025 12:51 AM (sPQoU)

386 Remember the india-paki war? No.
Remember fake tapper's bullshit book? No.

Remember the L.A. Riots? No.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 12:49 AM (sIlkJ)

2 of 3?

Nobody read tapper's book, so that's kind of cheating.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 12:53 AM (Dnobf)

387 It’s hard to get over how astounding this is! Israel is 4 days into a war with a regional power that promised to shoot 1,000 missiles a night at you, and you’re not even having to go to the shelters anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 12:49 AM (47gcY)

We'll be able to say that we remember when we looked at Iran and said it's thrice the size of Iraq and found it intimidating.

And then Israel.

Plenty of people will debate how the God of Abraham regards them today, but I think He'll have the last word.

Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 12:58 AM (Dnobf)

388 382

I even remember the FIRST Indo-Pakistani War of 1971.

In an extraordinary feat of valor and skill, an Indian submarine torpedoed & sank a submerged Pakistani sub.

Pakistan said their sub had gone down with all hands due to a catastrophic equipment failure. Because the Indian submarine commander was a Sikh, India went along with that for a little while.

Posted by: mnw at June 17, 2025 12:58 AM (kd60y)

389 >>No, but those people don’t matter anymore. Just like what the G7 leaders Trump left behind tonight really don’t matter. What matters are our future relationships with the nations in the region - the Gulf States, Egypt, Turkey, a few others. Why them? Because outside of public rhetoric (which is just posturing) they are all going to know through their intelligence whether we did this for Israel, or whether Israel did it themselves.

I think that is over complicating the issue. Trump has been saying for decades that Iran must never get a bomb. Secretly, every country you named and virtually everyone else in the region doesn't want them to have one either. Because the mullahs bug fuck nuts.

Nobody needs an intelligence service to figure Trump out because he comes right out and says what he means. Iran cannot get a nuke. And he isn't fucking around. Some of his tactics might be a bit of a mystery, where he intends to end up is not.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 12:59 AM (PQWix)

390 Remember the india-paki war? No.
Remember fake tapper's bullshit book? No.

Remember the L.A. Riots? No.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 12:49 AM (sIlkJ)

Those were all historical speed bumps that changed nothing. The end of the Iranian regime upends the last 40 years of middle eastern history; the coming (and inevitable) end of the Palestinian situation marks a huge change from the last 70 years of middle eastern history; this truly is a once in a lifetime event.
How will the Palestinian situation be resolved? However Israel wants it to be resolved - they won’t have any more international friends left after this.

Btw if you wonder what we here in America can thank Israel for; I think Israel is going to help us finally get rid of the UN. (Some little rump debating society using the name will persist, of course).

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 01:02 AM (47gcY)

391 38 The Mungo Jerry clip is one of my favorites -

Best Kinks song they never had anything to do with..seriously, doesn't it sound exactly like something Ray Davies would have done at the same time period?

Posted by: azjaeger at June 17, 2025 01:04 AM (3/XaG)

392 I miss Shibumi.
Posted by: Kindltot

I as well. Hope her marriage to that chemist is still going strong.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Our marriage is fine, thank you.
Shibumi is not feeling well, she has a chronic nasal infection that won't go away.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at June 17, 2025 01:07 AM (tjZg/)

393 Nobody needs an intelligence service to figure Trump out because he comes right out and says what he means. Iran cannot get a nuke. And he isn't fucking around. Some of his tactics might be a bit of a mystery, where he intends to end up is not.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 12:59 AM (PQWix)

You and I agree on all of the fundamentals. All of the people talking nonsense are going to be so thoroughly discredited that they simply won’t be listened to on anything anymore - and I included most of the American left in that. Likewise, who is going to care what Starmer or Macron or Merz have to say about anything going forward from here? Not only have they been consistently wrong, they also have proven to be powerless and have had no effect on anything that has happened.

They are all now irrelevant, and the entire world knows they are irrelevant.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 01:08 AM (47gcY)

394 They are all now irrelevant, and the entire world knows they are irrelevant.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 01:08 AM (47gcY)

I say, old Chap!

Sacré bleu!

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 01:12 AM (gKDq2)

395 MAGA hat. "Stumptown Otaku," owned by Tommy Ly, says on its social media that a staffer was triggered upon seeing the black man and asked for permission to trespass him.

https://tinyurl.com/3vfpymdh

Posted by: Ciampino - no MAGA? You can go bust at June 17, 2025 01:20 AM (sPQoU)

396 Just so this doesn't get forgotten in all of the war news.

@FBIDirectorKash
·
3h
The FBI has located documents which detail alarming allegations related to the 2020 U.S. election, including allegations of interference by the CCP.

I have immediately declassified the material and turned the documents

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 01:23 AM (PQWix)

397 Dodgers fans give verdict on national anthem singer's ICE protest

https://mol.im/a/14818597

Posted by: Ciampino - check your politics at the stadium entrance at June 17, 2025 01:23 AM (sPQoU)

398
The FBI has located documents which detail alarming allegations related to the 2020 U.S. election, including allegations of interference by the CCP.

I have immediately declassified the material and turned the documents
Posted by: JackStraw

===============

And posted them on your website so we can see them, right? RIGHT?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 01:24 AM (wbZPZ)

399 393 .... Likewise, who is going to care what Starmer or Macron or Merz have to say about anything going forward from here? Not only have they been consistently wrong, they also have proven to be powerless and have had no effect on anything that has happened.

They are all now irrelevant, and the entire world knows they are irrelevant.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 01:08 AM (47gcY)

The left was wrong on Viet Nam and everyone forgot...

The left was wrong on Reagan's defense buildup and everyone forgot....

The left was wrong on energy policy and fracking and everyone forgot....

And Joe Biden was wrong on every major foreign policy position for the last 40 years....yet still a bunch of people voted for him in 2020.....

Need I go on?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 17, 2025 01:25 AM (QGaXH)

400
The last I had thought I had a "sinus infection" it was really a cracked upper molar.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 01:27 AM (uVOfm)

401 Flyer fury after Delta, American and United admit to unthinkable

https://mol.im/a/14810191

Posted by: Ciampino - check your baggage at June 17, 2025 01:28 AM (sPQoU)

402 399 Need I go on?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 17, 2025 01:25 AM (QGaXH)

Actually - just remembered I need to get up early to go hiking in the morning.....

So no more unhinged rants for me tonight

Good night everyone. Sleep well. God is on his throne. Angels are watching over us.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 17, 2025 01:29 AM (QGaXH)

403 >>And posted them on your website so we can see them, right? RIGHT?

They've been declassified. You will see them unless you think Chuck Grassley will pick these documents he's been asking for for years will pick this moment to go deep state.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 01:30 AM (PQWix)

404 MAGA turns on Trump-appointed Justice Amy Coney Barrett

https://mol.im/a/14818479

Posted by: Ciampino - check your baggage including knockers at June 17, 2025 01:33 AM (sPQoU)

405
In 36 hours we'll be on to our next bullshit crisis and wont even remember any of this.
Posted by: Soothsayer

============

Well, major disruptions in Iran and the Middle East could have notable effects that ripple out over the next few years, reminding us of the time we're going through now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 01:35 AM (wbZPZ)

406 Lawmakers scramble to beef up security in anticipation of MORE politically-motivated assassination attempts

https://mol.im/a/14817151

Posted by: Ciampino - check your guns at the door at June 17, 2025 01:35 AM (sPQoU)

407 Posted by: raimondo at June 16, 2025 11:49 PM (dELdU)

Yes, everybody pops off when someone on the other side, dies, then gets all butt when one of theirs does.

What do you do for fun? Any hobbies or interests?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 17, 2025 01:39 AM (Vvh2V)

408 Well, I put the Win7 HD in this computer, and got it booted to Win7. Copied some files over to a thumb drive, and got the necessary parameters off Thunderbird to get it to log in to the pop3 server.

Rebooting to Mint was a pain, and when it finally did boot, screen resolution is off. Open "display", and Mint thinks it's on a laptop, with no change in resolution permitted.

I have an update running in Terminal. Hope that helps.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 01:40 AM (CgSYt)

409 What do you do for fun? Any hobbies or interests?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 17, 2025 01:39 AM (Vvh2V)

He dissects cockroaches to eat their tiny livers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 01:42 AM (CgSYt)

410 One of the earliest viral internet stories was an MD regaling his encounter with “Scrotum Self Repair”.

A very sick, fevered individual presented hisself to the ER saying he had a …. problem. The windup was, he worked in a machine shop, and during his lunch break he would (somehow) self gratify hisself on a piece of equipment.

Well it was a belt driven kind of machine, and in his throe of passion one of the the boys got caught in the belt, and he lost that one. “Avulsed” is the term, I think. He tried to staple the wound shut, which did work, after a fashion. But inevitably became infected. It’s still somewhere on the ‘net if you want to read it.

One could argue anywhere they are using rubber bullets, ya might be better off using the real deal. It’s also possible ole shot in the nuts actually had it coming. “There I was, reading my bible on the courthouse steps. And the cops came by and beat the shit out of me!!” Sure, Jan.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2025 01:43 AM (DsbT+)

411 One could argue anywhere they are using rubber bullets, ya might be better off using the real deal. It’s also possible ole shot in the nuts actually had it coming. “There I was, reading my bible on the courthouse steps. And the cops came by and beat the shit out of me!!” Sure, Jan.
Posted by: Common Tater at June 17, 2025 01:43 AM (DsbT+)

If he was taking part in a riot, he had it coming.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 01:47 AM (CgSYt)

412 406 Lawmakers scramble to beef up security in anticipation of MORE politically-motivated assassination attempts

https://mol.im/a/14817151
Posted by: Ciampino - check your guns at the door at June 17, 2025 01:35 AM (sPQoU)

Suddenly, after a Lefty kills a Lefty... the Left is worried about Political violence.

Who woulda thunk it!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 01:54 AM (mP0Kj)

413 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 01:42 AM

😂

He's been coming around so long I've gotten fond of him. I'd like to find something to agree on, or talk about, that isn't angry.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 17, 2025 01:55 AM (Vvh2V)

414
Wacky prediction: the Democrats will say President Trump "caved" on Iran, no matter what happens.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 02:07 AM (5x091)

415

Because saying he "caved" is their new thing, now.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 17, 2025 02:07 AM (5x091)

416 Assassinated Minnesota lawmaker's injured golden retriever Gilbert is EUTHANIZED hours after owners' murders

https://mol.im/a/14817193

Posted by: Ciampino - check your guns at the corral at June 17, 2025 02:14 AM (sPQoU)

417 Well, damned Linux Mint still thinks it's on a laptop, so display is morked.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 02:15 AM (3Eyn0)

418 Reportedly an Israeli strike in Tehran last night killed Ali Shamdani, who had replaced both the IRGC and Army commanders who had been killed in the opening strikes of this phase of the war*.

So, 3 days. Sort of like Hezbollah last year - "lots of promotion opportunities, inquire today!".

Current joke: "Hey honey I got a promotion. Yeah, it'll be a lot of work, but it won't last long."

Current joke #2: "For 46 years, no Israeli flights went to Iran. At the moment, all Israeli flights go to Iran."

* for Israel - or the US - this war has been "on" at various levels of severity since 1979

Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2025 02:18 AM (1m82a)

419 Celsius breaks silence over link between its drinks and cocaine -- a null burger?

https://mol.im/a/14816979

Posted by: Ciampino - check your caffeine at June 17, 2025 02:20 AM (sPQoU)

420 Odd. Why did @TuckerCarlson ask Hunter Biden to write a letter of recommendation for his son to get into Georgetown?

https://tinyurl.com/34vdt3kf

Posted by: Ciampino - check the autopen at June 17, 2025 02:25 AM (sPQoU)

421 By next month we might be treated to typing at some ME subject without wondering how the Mullahs fit in. Just like we don't worry about Saddam anymore.

Wouldn't that be nice.

Posted by: DaveA at June 17, 2025 02:26 AM (FhXTo)

422 Captain Cook's lost ship is FOUND after 250 years: Scientists discover remains of HMS Endeavour

https://mol.im/a/14815843

Posted by: Ciampino - check the autopilot at June 17, 2025 02:26 AM (sPQoU)

423 But DaveA, everything was better with Saddam. Read it right here today, seriously.

It used to take 2 generations or so before history was inverted, invented, and made up (1945 until the ridiculous, and baseless "revisionist" crap about the bomb in 1995). Now we've improved that to one generation. I know some of the people beclowning themselves were 10 years old in the early 2000s when things were actually happening, but many don't have that excuse.

But with that, off to read about Operation Meetinghouse, the big Tokyo fire-bomb raid. Quite an interesting book on it, and LeMay, by James Scott. Recommended (I'm assuming he avoids the always weak and lame post-game moral agonizing schtick afflicting so many WWII types).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2025 02:35 AM (1m82a)

424 420 Odd. Why did @TuckerCarlson ask Hunter Biden to write a letter of recommendation for his son to get into Georgetown?

https://tinyurl.com/34vdt3kf
Posted by: Ciampino

Babylon DC is incestuous?

Everything is fake and gay?

(shrugs)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 02:50 AM (sAmhv)

425 423: the internet and social media have sped up hyper partisan, contrarian, and retarded, takes and amplifies them to ridiculous levels, then monetized it all. It's caused what took months and years to germinate into something toxically stupid and shrunk it to days and weeks. It will get worse.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 02:55 AM (sAmhv)

426 Well, back on my laptop. Could not fix the screen issue with the desktop. Running the Mint ISO off the thumb drive, resolution is OK. Something wrong with the boot sequence.

I have run dual boot in the desktop before, had Win7 on one HD, and XP on the other, and could explore one disc from the other.

I think I will get a new SSD for the desktop, reinstall the Win7 HD, and install Mint 23 on the new SSD. Then I ought to be able to easily (heh) migrate important files from the old Windows install to the new Mint install.

In the meantime, I will stick with this laptop.

Anyway, it's late, and I need to go to bed. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:09 AM (2UMft)

427 I think I will get a new SSD for the desktop, reinstall the Win7 HD, and install Mint 23 on the new SSD. Then I ought to be able to easily (heh) migrate important files from the old Windows install to the new Mint install.

Get a external carrier for the HD. At that point it's identical to an external hard drive. You can plug that into the laptop and you're off to the races.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 03:20 AM (NXz8h)

428 the internet and social media have sped up hyper partisan, contrarian, and retarded, takes and amplifies them to ridiculous levels, then monetized it all. It's caused what took months and years to germinate into something toxically stupid and shrunk it to days and weeks. It will get worse.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 02:55 AM (sAmhv)

Jumping to conclusions is the only exercise most people get.

Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2025 03:44 AM (gKDq2)

429 Finally home

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 03:48 AM (+qU29)

430 Finally home - from shopping.

Due to the airways being closed, it'll be a while before fresh salmon is available again.

Life is rough!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:59 AM (nWjb6)

431 Stock up on canned foods, they last awhile and great foe emergency

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 04:05 AM (+qU29)

432 Stock up on canned foods, they last awhile and great foe emergency

Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 04:05 AM (+qU29)
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Have stock but the shelves are full in the supermarkets, both fresh produce and manufactured goods.

And there's no lack of toilet paper!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 04:08 AM (nWjb6)

433 Normally I do not read post on blogs, but I would like to say that this write-up very pressured me to take a look at and do
so! Your writing style has been surprised me.

Thank you, very great article.

Posted by: Kickass at June 17, 2025 04:06 AM (Wycdp)
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lulz. Spam with link in sig.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 04:09 AM (nWjb6)

434 Life is rough!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:59 AM (nWjb6)

Stay safe

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 17, 2025 04:10 AM (pIfcn)

435 Current joke: "Hey honey I got a promotion. Yeah, it'll be a lot of work, but it won't last long."

Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2025 02:18 AM (1m82a)
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Sigh. They blow up so fast these days!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 04:10 AM (nWjb6)

436
What do you do for fun? Any hobbies or interests?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 17, 2025 01:39 AM (Vvh2V)

Pretty sure 'mondo is only occasionally human. I've definitely seen bot posts from that nic. I assume it's just a log in that gets passed around and botted as budget and focus shifts.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 17, 2025 04:17 AM (pIfcn)

437 lulz. Spam with link in sig.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
..........................
That's some perfect Engrish.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 17, 2025 04:22 AM (sAmhv)

438 Keeping you and yours in my prayers, Biden's Dog.

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:29 AM (CQE5S)

439 Thanks all.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 04:35 AM (nWjb6)

440 Pixy's up at https://ai.mee.nu

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:37 AM (CQE5S)

441 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at June 17, 2025 04:38 AM (CQE5S)

442 I like reading an article that will make men and women think.
Also, thanks for allowing me to comment!

Posted by: porn at June 17, 2025 12:11 PM (vahyw)

Derangement Under the Sea Cafe

A goblin shark. A weird creature that lives
deep in the abysses of the sea.

Only living in open oceans with depths of at least 4,265 feet, goblin sharks are rarely observed or recorded while alive. Scientists believe the animal only comes to the water's surface at night and spends most of their life living in nearly-complete darkness.
Goblin sharks are not fished commercially and are mostly captured by people fishing other species.
The only living member of the genus family Mitsukurina, the goblin shark's lineage dates back 125 million years.
Nicknamed the "living fossil," goblin sharks are believed to be on average three to four meters in length, though a female goblin shark measuring six meters long was caught in the year 2000.

A fifteen-foot hurricane storm surge buries a beach town in water.

Puffin enjoys a swim.

Someone's getting lucky tonight.

Hippo wants to meet his admirers like I met Nigel Farage at the Trump Hotel.

Cat dressed up in costume.

Happy mama dog cuddles her puppy.

Dog goes shopping in the pet aisle.

The sassiest bulldog.

Dog fetches a duck for his mistress.

Dog hangs out with strangers in a hot tub.

A belated Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there.

Dogs reach an agreement after a tense negotiation.

An oarfish, a rarely-seen creature that usually lives a mile under the ocean, comes to the shore for some reason.

This rarely seen deep-sea creature, known as an oarfish, washed ashore in Mexico. pic.twitter.com/WSWVP5xFOh
— Nature is Amazing ☘️ (@AMAZlNGNATURE) June 11, 2025

What creature is this? pic.twitter.com/THfoIGnOE2
— Nature is Amazing ☘️ (@AMAZlNGNATURE) June 8, 2025

It's a red-lipped batfish and apparently it's real.

"Our neighbor's great dane loves jumping on a trampoline"
(jukin) pic.twitter.com/rToQMYNrDZ
— theworldofdog (@theworldofdog) June 15, 2025

Everything's mine..🐕🐾😅 pic.twitter.com/1za48IE8oG
— 𝕐o̴g̴ (@Yoda4ever) June 16, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 07:28 PM