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From Powerline, this hot identity politics mess of a Jezebel blogpost on glaciers.


JeffB. says this cost You over $400,000 in grant money to produce.

Don't forget that as you read.


Glaciers, gender, and science

A feminist glaciology framework for global environmental change research

Mark Carey
M Jackson
Alessandro Antonello
Jaclyn Rushing
University of Oregon, USA

Mark Carey, Robert D. Clark Honors College, University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403, USA. Email: carey@uoregon.edu

Abstract

Glaciers are key icons of climate change and global environmental change. However, the relationships among gender, science, and glaciers – particularly related to epistemological questions about the production of glaciological knowledge – remain understudied. This paper thus proposes a feminist glaciology framework with four key components: 1) knowledge producers; (2) gendered science and knowledge; (3) systems of scientific domination; and (4) alternative representations of glaciers. Merging feminist postcolonial science studies and feminist political ecology, the feminist glaciology framework generates robust analysis of gender, power, and epistemologies in dynamic social-ecological systems, thereby leading to more just and equitable science and human-ice interactions.

This is not a parody. Powerline thought it was, but the lead author is an associate dean at the University of Oregon.


I Introduction

Glaciers are icons of global climate change, with common representations stripping them of social and cultural contexts to portray ice as simplified climate change yardsticks and thermometers. In geophysicist Henry Pollack’s articulation, 'Ice asks no questions, presents no arguments, reads no newspapers, listens to no debates. It is not burdened by ideology and carries no political baggage as it crosses the threshold from solid to liquid. It just melts' (Pollack, 2009: 114). This perspective appears consistently in public discourse, from media to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). But the 'ice is just ice' conceptualization contrasts sharply with conclusions by researchers such as Cruikshank (2005), who asks if glaciers listen [!!!], Orlove et al. (2008b), who analyze the cultural framing of glaciers [!], Carey (2007), who sees an endangered species narrative applied to glaciers [!!!], Jackson (2015), who exposes how glaciers are depicted as ruins, and Sörlin (2015), who refers to the present as a cryo-historical moment because ‘ice has become historical, i.e. that ice is an element of change and thus something that can be considered as part of society and of societal concern' (Sörlin, 2015: 327).

I repeat: this is not a parody, and this cost you over $400,000.

Let's get back to debunking that "ice is just ice" claim.

Does ice listen? Let's find out.


Nüsser and Baghel (2014) also reject the 'ice is just ice' assertion. Glaciers, they argue, 'have increasingly become contested and controversial objects of knowledge, susceptible to cultural framings as both dangerous and endangered landscapes' (Nüsser and Baghel, 2014: 13....


By the way, this is all as superficial as what a high-schooler would produce from Wikipedia searches -- assuming the high-schooler had access to academic paper databases instead of Wikipedia. But the glibness -- let me just snatch this from here, that from there -- is exactly the same.

Think about what this sentence is actually saying. No, don't just say it's "Academese" -- it is that of course. But think about what it's actually saying.

Despite their perceived remoteness, glaciers are central sites -- often contested and multifaceted -- experiencing the effects of global change, where science, policy, knowledge, and society interact in dynamic social-ecological systems.

That sentence is saying, if one reads it literally (and why shouldn't one?), that glaciers are the physical place where science, knowledge, and society interact in dynamic social-ecological systems.

No, asshole. A basement carrel at your over-charging university is where these things interact (if they do interact). A glacier is were ice and earth interact.

This is like reading Chevy Chase in Spies Like Us bullshitting his way through an academic conference with buzzwords and nonsense, and getting away with it -- humorously -- because none of his made-up nonsense is any more ridiculous than the made-up nonsense other assholes are saying.

I still don't know if glaciers listen, but we're about to find out they don't like the b-slur -- because glaciers have gender.

Come with me. Let's have a Science Adventure together.

...

A critical but overlooked aspect of the human dimensions of glaciers and global change research is the relationship between gender and glaciers. While there has been relatively little research on gender and global environmental change in general (Moosa and Tuana, 2014; Arora-Jonsson, 2011)...

There's a reason for that.

... there is even less from a feminist perspective that focuses on gender (understood here not as a male/female binary, but as a range of personal and social possibilities) ...

Emmett Fitz-Hume nods with a smile.

...and also on power, justice, inequality, and knowledge production in the context of ice, glacier change, and glaciology (exceptions are Bloom et al., 2008; Williams and Golovnev, 2015; Hevly, 1996; Hulbe et al., 2010; Cruikshank, 2005). Feminist theories and critical epistemologies --– especially feminist political ecology --- and feminist postcolonial science studies – open up new perspectives and analyses of the history of glaciological knowledge.

Yes, that "perspective" is the perspective of one who knows nothing about a field purporting to critique that field.

And how could we ever live without that?

What I'm kind of guessing is that these "critical epistemologies" [epistemology being the branch of philosophy concerned with how we know things] are chiefly necessary because feminists aren't actually "knowledge producers" of glacier studies; they're not going out into the field with the snow and ice, just like they ain't gettin' into STEM, period.

No, these "criticial epistemologies" are necessary because feminists have nothing to say about glaciers because they're not scientists and don't even leave their campuses, ever. But they feel that there's something in the world they're not squawking about enough, and they've picked poor glaciers as the next thing they'll pointlessly and narcissistically inject themselves into.

This is all about the fact that feminists aren't doing real science but want to be seen as doing things that look like science so they're going to sort of claim to be on the same plane as actual field glaciologists.

One cannot be a critic without, implicitly, putting oneself above the thing being criticized.

Yet another completely unwarranted assertion of superiority by feminists over, and I do love the stupidity of this word, actual "knowledge producers" and "knowlege production."

Pretty much a straight up concession that they produce no knowledge -- they just sit back in their comfy digs at university and churn out Wikipedia Book Reports like this in critique of actual "knowlege producers"

Researchers in feminist political ecology and feminist geography (e.g. Sultana, 2014; Mollett and Faria, 2013; Elmhirst, 2011; Coddington, 2015) have also called for studies to move 'beyond gender', to include analyses of power, justice, and knowledge production as well as'‘to unsettle and challenge dominant assumptions' that are often embedded in Eurocentric knowledges (Harris, 2015: xx).

Apparently we're moving into ice, too.

Given the prominent place of glaciers both within the social imaginary of climate change and in global environmental change research, a feminist approach has important present-day relevance for understanding the dynamic relationship between people and ice -- what Nüsser and Baghel (2015) refer to as the cryoscape.

In what sense? What is the dynamic between people and ice? People actually stay well away from ice -- ice is death. So what dynamic do you mean? What dynamic could you mean?

All you mean is the dynamic of ice in people's imaginations and the dynamic of ice and presumably male field glacier researchers.

Look, Missy, if you want to really put you feminist perspective on ice, why don't you stop whining and pick up an ice-core screw and join the team in taking samples up in northern Finland?


Through a review and synthesis of a multi-disciplinary and wide-ranging literature on human-ice relations, this paper proposes a feminist glaciology framework to analyze human-glacier dynamics, glacier narratives and discourse, and claims to credibility and authority of glaciological knowledge through the lens of feminist studies.

As I said earlier: Someone is getting a little earned spotlight time due to actually being a "knowledge producer" by actually producing knowledge about glaciers, and feminists can't take this, because they should get an equal amount of the spotlight, despite producing no knowledge about anything, and particularly none about glaciers.

Thus, the challenge to the "credibility and authority of glaciological knowledge."

By the way, to even do this nonsense, they're going to have to re-define "glaciology" to not mean actual glaciology to mean things which are not glaciology -- because of course a non-expert can only challenge an expert by saying "Let's take a more global, less glacier-focused, view of glaciers."

The only way a bullshitter wins is to move the conversation away from the tangible and real (of which he knows nothing) and into "meta" concerns (of which he also knows very little, but the subject itself is so bullshitty he can fight to a draw).

As a point of departure, we use 'glaciology' in an encompassing sense that exceeds the immediate scientific meanings of the label, much as feminist critiques of geography, for example, have expanded what it is that "geography’' might mean vis-à-vis geographic knowledge (Domosh, 1991; Rose, 1993). As such, feminist glaciology has four aspects: (1) knowledge producers, to decipher how gender affects the individuals producing glacier-related knowledges; (2) gendered science and knowledge, to address how glacier science, perceptions, and claims to credibility are gendered; (3) systems of scientific domination, to analyze how power, domination, colonialism, and control -- undergirded by and coincident with masculinist ideologies -- have shaped glacier-related sciences and knowledges over time; and (4) alternative representations, to illustrate diverse methods and ways --beyond the natural sciences and including what we refer to as 'folk glaciologies' [!!!!== to portray glaciers and integrate counter-narratives into broader conceptions of the cryosphere.

Why change what "glaciology" means? Here's a theory: Because there was government money available for actual hard-science, take-a-core-sample glaciology, and to get that money, you have to pretend to be doing "glaciology." So this crew comes in, files for the grant money claiming to be writing about glaciology, but then, in their introduction, changes the meaning of the word to talk about what they always talk about -- power relationships between the sexes.

An academic hustle, sort of, then.

This grant was provided by the National Science Foundation -- yet in that last paragraph, these people admit they're not going to be talking about the science of actual glaciology but of post-modern criticism about how glaciers are perceieved or talked about.

One can say whatever one likes about post-modernism-- but this crap is definitely not science. So why is over $400,000 intended for actual science going towards this crap?

Well, a grant was available, and the grant-writers wrote up something that would sort of sound "sciency."

Okay, I'm done. I'll just leave you with this:


II Why feminist glaciology?

Feminist glaciology asks how knowledge related to glaciers is produced, circulated, and gains credibility and authority across time and space. It simultaneously brings to the forefront glacier knowledge that has been marginalized or deemed 'outside' of traditional glaciology. It asks how glaciers came to be meaningful and significant (through what ontological and epistemological process), as well as trying to destabilize underlying assumptions about ice and environment through the dismantling of a host of boundaries and binaries. The feminist lens is crucial given the historical marginalization of women, the importance of gender in glacier-related knowledges, and the ways in which systems of colonialism, imperialism, and patriarchy co-constituted gendered science. Additionally, the feminist perspective seeks to uncover and embrace marginalized knowledges and alternative narratives, which are increasingly needed for effective global environmental change research, including glaciology (Castree et al., 2014; Hulme, 2011). A combination of feminist postcolonial science studies and feminist political ecology provide the intellectual foundation for feminist glaciology.

There are two levels one can read that at.

The first level sees it as gobedlygook. This is the typical level people tell you to read this crap at, and then jeer and laugh at it.

I urge you to look past that level, and really read it to understand what they're claiming.

Because that's even worse, and even more ridiculous than actual meaningless gibberish.

Whenever someone says "Let's not talk about X, let's talk about the idea of X," you can be sure of three things:

1. That person is almost entirely ignorant of X.

2. You are in for some next-level bullshit and cheap word-association hijinks to cover up for the fact that person is almost entirely ignorant of X.

3. That person is a narcissist who does not feel comfortable unless he is the center of attention, and considers it akin to psychical suicide to just admit "You know, I don't really know much about X; why don't you tell me what you know, so I can learn?"


Posted by: Ace at 03:31 PM




Comments

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1 That's a lot to read I'll be awhile

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 03:32 PM (fizMZ)

2 Very bold.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at March 07, 2016 03:32 PM (t5zYU)

3 I better go get the others, don't want any shower incidents

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 03:33 PM (fizMZ)

4 My nuts are cold - where can I get a check.

Posted by: DaveA at March 07, 2016 03:33 PM (DL2i+)

5 I like how it's a "Feminist framework for [whatever]" and the first author was still a guy.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 07, 2016 03:33 PM (KUaJL)

6 Ace must have hated this movie.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 07, 2016 03:34 PM (jpJUu)

7 The crazy has escaped containment.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 07, 2016 03:34 PM (uURQL)

8 Hahahaha!

From Bold to Block in under 10 seconds!

Posted by: garrett at March 07, 2016 03:34 PM (440T9)

9 Glaciology is an ice cold bitch.

Posted by: Crabby cupcake at March 07, 2016 03:35 PM (vansE)

10

So


You're saying she is frigid

Posted by: ThunderB at March 07, 2016 03:35 PM (zOTsN)

11 Ice, Ice, Baby, of course.

Posted by: m at March 07, 2016 03:35 PM (S/1cF)

12 >>JeffB. says this cost You over $400,000 in grant money to produce.

That's because he reads the comments.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 07, 2016 03:35 PM (/tuJf)

13
Yeah, Teh Ewok totes hated this movie. And I hate Tim for beating me to the Ewok movie review joke.

Bastard.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2016 03:36 PM (hQAYN)

14 Stay away from belts and doorknobs, kid.

They're way more difficult to operate than HTML.

Posted by: Zombie David Carradine at March 07, 2016 03:36 PM (440T9)

15 Whose bitch this is?

Posted by: Ross Ice Shelf at March 07, 2016 03:36 PM (DL2i+)

16 Bet you didn't know how much I loved Glacier Science.

Posted by: Zombie Michael Jackson at March 07, 2016 03:37 PM (XtAzU)

17 Yeah, Teh Ewok totes hated this movie. And I hate Tim for beating me to the Ewok movie review joke.

Bastard.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2016 03:36 PM (hQAYN)

****

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 07, 2016 03:37 PM (jpJUu)

18 I can't even.

About a third of the way through my migraine started intensifying at which point I stopped reading.

It's difficult to believe that some people are able to feed and clothe themselves each day.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 07, 2016 03:37 PM (8PbKi)

19
What's the big deal? Just work in the word feminist in every sentence of your proposal and apply for a big bucks feminist grant.

It's gold, Jerry, feminist gold!

Posted by: Feminist Bruce With a Feminist Wang! at March 07, 2016 03:37 PM (iQIUe)

20 Say good night Gracie

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 07, 2016 03:37 PM (QPdNE)

21 >>Merging feminist postcolonial science studies and feminist political ecology, the feminist glaciology framework generates robust analysis of gender, power, and epistemologies in dynamic social-ecological systems, thereby leading to more just and equitable science and human-ice interactions.


So. They are going to study the impact of using Ice to replace the Frozen Banana?

Posted by: garrett at March 07, 2016 03:38 PM (440T9)

22 Bitches gonna bitch.

Where's my grant money?

Posted by: Roy at March 07, 2016 03:38 PM (VndSC)

23 It's true, they really are saying that even though they don't actually do any science stuff, they'd like women to be treated as if they actually do science stuff. That's basically the whole $400k right there.

Posted by: spongeworthy at March 07, 2016 03:39 PM (mrfTe)

24 "Party Of Science".

Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2016 03:39 PM (noWW6)

25 Someone named "Lizzy" nailed these brain-free scholars in a morning thread.

Briefly, if they can't do science, they criticize it, which makes them seem smarter than science itself.

They do the same thing with old-time morality, which they also claim to transcend.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 03:39 PM (5o5ek)

26 >>JeffB. says this cost You over $400,000 in grant money to produce.


And yet, The Plaster Casters were completely Self-Funded.

What a world.

Posted by: garrett at March 07, 2016 03:39 PM (440T9)

27 The first level sees it as gobedlygook. This is the typical level people tell you to read this crap at, and then jeer and laugh at it.

I urge you to look past that level, and really read it to understand what they're claiming.

Because that's even worse, and even more ridiculous than actual meaningless gibberish.



Authentic frontier gibberish.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 03:39 PM (eDmrZ)

28 Kill the sciences!

Posted by: Bizarro Amishdude at March 07, 2016 03:39 PM (bZ7mE)

29 If a glacier melts, and no one is around to see it, does it make a crying sound?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 07, 2016 03:39 PM (DYDUy)

30 the importance of gender in glacier-related knowledges, and the ways in
which systems of colonialism, imperialism, and patriarchy co-constituted
gendered science


Pretty sure that BS won't melt any ice.

Posted by: DaveA at March 07, 2016 03:39 PM (DL2i+)

31 Frost bite of the dick has to be bad. As an appendage, I'm not sure why you dont hear more of them freezing offf. Just imagine -- it turns black and gangrenous and must be removed.

Posted by: Feminist Bruce With a Feminist Wang! at March 07, 2016 03:40 PM (iQIUe)

32 >>It's difficult to believe that some people are able to feed and clothe themselves each day.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

And they do it with our money.

Posted by: Aviator at March 07, 2016 03:40 PM (c7vUv)

33 What's the big deal? Just work in the word feminist in every sentence of your proposal and apply for a big bucks feminist grant.

It's gold, Jerry, feminist gold!

***

It's as if it were created in one of those random word generators.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 07, 2016 03:40 PM (8PbKi)

34 I found it to be an enthralling paper. The heuristics of the hermeneutics are captivating.

Posted by: Stanley Fish at March 07, 2016 03:40 PM (oFSUK)

35 The Glacier Monologues

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (DYDUy)

36 About a third of the way through my migraine started intensifying at which point I stopped reading.
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I think the people who dole out grant money are basically paying these "scholars" to go away. We used to do it with tuneless buskers who'd set up outside the restaurant where I worked.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (5o5ek)

37 Some people just need to be glacier-slapped.

Posted by: Roy at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (VndSC)

38 "Feminist glaciology asks how knowledge related to glaciers is produced,
circulated, and gains credibility and authority across time and space.
It simultaneously brings to the forefront glacier knowledge that has
been marginalized or deemed 'outside' of traditional glaciology."

The postmodernist lesbian feminist scholar Luce Irigaray has criticized Einstein's E=mc^2 as a "sexed equation" which should be shunned. Because it "privileges" one speed, _c_, above all other speeds. And privilege is of course an invention of the patriarchy.

I am not making this up. You could not make this stuff up.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (noWW6)

39 Hey Sugartits, while your up their chip me off a glassful and make me a Vodka gimlet.

Posted by: Moron at the Glacier Bar at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (DL2i+)

40 Fuckin' glaciers. How do they work?

Posted by: Insane Feminist Posse at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (hHFOx)

41 The woman-ice relationship is integral to the good society - she must know how many cubes to put in my Gin and Tonic, for instance.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (4/i9Y)

42 Being a college graduate with a degree ('84 BS, CWRU) in Geology, all I can do is weep. It's either that or wonder why I didn't con the gubmint out of a cool half-mil myself.

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (INxoa)

43 Sounds like a dumb ass movie to me.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (/D5Lf)

44 feminist postcolonial science studies and feminist political ecology

made it this far without laughing, now I can't stop

Posted by: brak at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (MJuTN)

45 I found it to be an enthralling paper. The heuristics of the hermeneutics are captivating.

Posted by: Stanley Fish at March 07, 2016 03:40 PM (oFSUK)
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You didn't say "epistemological." No grant money for you.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (5o5ek)

46 This paper is the tip of the iceberg.Much of what passes for science these days is little more than bullshit.

Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2016 03:42 PM (B48dK)

47
Why cant we have a feminist Ace for global environmental change research?

Posted by: Feminist Bruce With a Feminist Wang! at March 07, 2016 03:42 PM (iQIUe)

48 What is it with feminists? Why is absolutely everything about the cooch? Is that like Fourth Law of Thermodynamics now?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 03:42 PM (oKE6c)

49 I found it to be an enthralling paper. The heuristics of the hermeneutics are captivating.



Indubitably!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 03:42 PM (eDmrZ)

50 When I'm President, everyone will have a grant!

Posted by: Bernie at March 07, 2016 03:42 PM (oFSUK)

51 There's the third level of publish or perish as well. Do not ever forget that.

I sooooooooo need to go into grant writing.

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at March 07, 2016 03:42 PM (mf5HN)

52 What the fuck is wrong with universities and our country?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2016 03:43 PM (voOPb)

53 Human - ice interactions.

Like the Titanic had or a gin and tonic has?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 07, 2016 03:43 PM (hLRSq)

54 "Gendered science?"


For God's sake ...


Can't they leave anything uncontaminated? Not even science?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 03:43 PM (oKE6c)

55 is there anyone in the dem constituency not on the dole?

Posted by: Spurwing Pacer at March 07, 2016 03:43 PM (nFwvY)

56 You can't spell "science" without "ice."

Posted by: m at March 07, 2016 03:43 PM (S/1cF)

57 Now that I think about it, feminists weighing in on frigidity does kinda make sense.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 03:44 PM (oKE6c)

58 55 No.

Posted by: steevy at March 07, 2016 03:44 PM (B48dK)

59 Dammit! You mean I could have received a grant?!

Posted by: Alan Sokal, publishing lauded absurd BS at March 07, 2016 03:44 PM (oFSUK)

60 Hey Sugartits, while your up their chip me off a glassful and make me a Vodka gimlet.
Posted by: Moron at the Glacier Bar



Glacial Iced Vodka Tonic. That'll be $47.50.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 03:44 PM (eDmrZ)

61 If we have gendered glaciers can we also have ethnic physics? Sokal already invented postmodern physics.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at March 07, 2016 03:44 PM (3epEl)

62 "Sweet Moraine" is KD Lang's Best Song

Posted by: garrett at March 07, 2016 03:44 PM (440T9)

63 The deuce, you say?

Posted by: zombie Robert Falcon Scott at March 07, 2016 03:44 PM (9krrF)

64 Don't you think they know how silly this is? This is all about pushing the Overton Window, like that Vaclav Havel essay, where everybody knows it's all a lie, but they do it anyway to bully people into cowing down.

Posted by: Equal Pay for All! at March 07, 2016 03:44 PM (T01Xq)

65 Next up: a feminist perspective on sammichology.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 03:44 PM (oKE6c)

66 There's the third level of publish or perish as well. Do not ever forget that.
Are you suggesting we ditch her in the Antartic with a teletype?

Posted by: DaveA at March 07, 2016 03:45 PM (DL2i+)

67 The Patriarchy stole my Iceberg!!!

Posted by: Viciously Bitter Feminist at March 07, 2016 03:45 PM (vA94g)

68 A glacier slides into a bar. It was ladies night.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 07, 2016 03:45 PM (DYDUy)

69 "Being a college graduate with a degree ('84 BS, CWRU) in Geology, all I can do is weep. It's either that or wonder why I didn't con the gubmint out of a cool half-mil myself.

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (INxoa) "

Fellow Spartan grad here, but I was class of 2013. You visited campus lately? They've done a shitload of building down Euclid.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:45 PM (4/i9Y)

70

Hug a Glacier Today!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 07, 2016 03:45 PM (LUgeY)

71 Anything in that paper about why their butts are so cold when they get in bed? At least that could be useful.

Posted by: ryukyu at March 07, 2016 03:45 PM (FuBZa)

72 Are these cisgendered glaciers or transgendered glaciers?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 07, 2016 03:45 PM (3epEl)

73 Someday the Great Lakes will be under a mile of ice again.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (fizMZ)

74 Meanwhile, as drivel of this sort appears in the "scientific" press, Sir Tim Hunt, rarefied specialist in cancer biochemistry, and holder of a minor academic honor which the rest of us refer to as the Nobel Prize for Physiology and Medicine, has had to leave the UK and go to Japan to find professional employment in research.

After being drummed out of his job at University College London by the radical feministas, over his having made a minor _en passant_ joke to which they took offense.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (noWW6)

75 Using intersectional heuristic Chomskyist epistemology, I came in her mouth.

Posted by: Harry Schanker at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (Z1gWl)

76 Someone got their "D" from that study.
Some committee approved it, and we paid for it.
Get the government out of education.

Posted by: Iblis at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (9221z)

77 *Fjord*

Posted by: garrett at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (440T9)

78 If we have gendered glaciers can we also have ethnic physics?



White guys can't jump.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (eDmrZ)

79 The good news is this has to be it, right? After gender studying glaciers there can't possibly be anything left for them to genderize.

Posted by: Cantankerous at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (326rv)

80 If these climate change feminists want some attention I have a couple more chakras that need releasing.

Posted by: ManBearPig at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (H9MG5)

81 If an iceberg is female, why did one sink the Titanic which is also female?

Posted by: Feminist Bruce With a Feminist Wang! at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (iQIUe)

82
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

--Robert Frost

Posted by: zombie Robert Falcon Scott at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (9krrF)

83 18 I can't even.

About a third of the way through my migraine started intensifying at which point I stopped reading.

It's difficult to believe that some people are able to feed and clothe themselves each day.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 07, 2016 03:37 PM (8PbKi)

You got further than I did.
I have no idea how ace wrote this.
Valu-rite on the rocks? Or just swigging out of the bottle?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2016 03:47 PM (voOPb)

84 The postmodernist lesbian feminist scholar Luce
Irigaray has criticized Einstein's E=mc^2 as a "sexed equation" which
should be shunned. Because it "privileges" one speed, _c_, above all
other speeds. And privilege is of course an invention of the patriarchy.

I am not making this up. You could not make this stuff up.


Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2016 03:41 PM (noWW6)


Ah, but Comrade Irigaray (?) forgets that the "c" has to be squared to pull its weight in the equation, so it is in fact the beneficiary of affirmative action.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 03:47 PM (oKE6c)

85 This is what the end of a civilization is like.

Posted by: FishingWithFredo at March 07, 2016 03:47 PM (INiW9)

86 No wonder those feminists are all frigid.

Posted by: wth at March 07, 2016 03:47 PM (HgMAr)

87 >>thereby leading to more just and equitable science and human-ice interactions.


I'm cool with this.

Posted by: Couch Fucker at March 07, 2016 03:47 PM (440T9)

88 Run a copy. The next time someone complains about the cost of tuition, or lack of money for ANY government program, hand it to them.

Still, this was a lot less than the 'Why are Lesbians Fat' study.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 07, 2016 03:47 PM (oFSUK)

89 I still prefer fire.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 07, 2016 03:47 PM (9krrF)

90 "I sooooooooo need to go into grant writing.

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at March 07, 2016 03:42 PM (mf5HN) "

I was a grant writer during a paid internship, once. It's fun, in a tedious and soul-crushing way. And it's very bankable if you get good at it.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:47 PM (4/i9Y)

91 Time for a rethink of the 19th Amendment?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 03:47 PM (oKE6c)

92 If an iceberg is female, why did one sink the Titanic which is also female?



Simple jealousy.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 03:48 PM (eDmrZ)

93 That bitch be cold.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2016 03:48 PM (Fmupd)

94 79 The good news is this has to be it, right? After gender studying glaciers there can't possibly be anything left for them to genderize.
Posted by: Cantankerous at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (326rv)

Dandelions? Shoe laces? Asphalt/concrete? Reefs?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2016 03:48 PM (voOPb)

95 What fresh hell is this?



... and why are women of the liberal persuasion unable to see anything outside the filter of their vaginas?

Posted by: redbanzai at March 07, 2016 03:48 PM (OrI3J)

96 Glaciers can be pasty white dudes too. Just saying.

Posted by: Vanilla Ice at March 07, 2016 03:48 PM (DYDUy)

97 F***ers got more for that grant than I made in my first fifteen years working. I'm totally in the wrong business.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 07, 2016 03:48 PM (9krrF)

98 How many glaciers does it take to change a light bulb?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2016 03:48 PM (JO9+V)

99 the ways in which systems of colonialism, imperialism, and patriarchy co-constituted

you can now check those three off of your Social Justice Warrior bingo card

), as well as trying to destabilize underlying assumptions about ice and environment through the dismantling of a host of boundaries and binaries

science isn't real, only feelings are real

Posted by: brak at March 07, 2016 03:49 PM (MJuTN)

100 ... and why are women of the liberal persuasion unable to see anything outside the filter of their vaginas?

When your head's that far up your ass, you look out through any opening you can find.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 07, 2016 03:49 PM (9krrF)

101 Whose glacier this is?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 03:49 PM (oKE6c)

102 Of course glaciers are female. They've been crushing stones since the beginning.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 07, 2016 03:49 PM (XtAzU)

103 A feminist glaciology

It was too cold for the brothers.

Posted by: DaveA - predenounced for obvious joke at March 07, 2016 03:49 PM (DL2i+)

104 "Simple jealousy.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 03:48 PM (eDmrZ) "

Catfight.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:49 PM (4/i9Y)

105 Glaciers carved out the Yosemite Valley. I'm kinda happy they're not around so I can enjoy it.

Posted by: Hank at March 07, 2016 03:49 PM (MCoXK)

106 Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:45 PM (4/i9Y)

...nice to see there's some young ('13!) morons out there!

...yes I have -- crazy amount of building up there...they need to keep going East on Euclid Ave...! Course the biggest news lately is about all of the robberies (assaults) in the area...not that this hasn't always been the case...at Case!

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 03:49 PM (INxoa)

107 You can't properly discuss Feminist Glaciers without first studying their Cleavage and their lovely Crevasses.

Posted by: garrett at March 07, 2016 03:50 PM (440T9)

108 I believe that as we touch nature, nature touches us back. I seek to reveal this reciprocity, which comforts and invigorates, to my students. My primary goal is for my students end the day feeling revitalized by a reciprocal interaction with nature. In order to save our environment, children must first love and cherish it, before they will want to protect it. Sharing my sentiments of love, wonder, and reciprocity in nature with my students ensures the future wellbeing and prosperity of both our children and the environment. Love is the seed that grows inspiration for children to sprout seeking knowledge, growing awareness, and blossoming with empowered individuals ready to take action.

Posted by: Starflower at March 07, 2016 03:50 PM (/D5Lf)

109 The good news is this has to be it, right? After
gender studying glaciers there can't possibly be anything left for them
to genderize.

Posted by: Cantankerous at March 07, 2016 03:46 PM (326rv)



Dandelions? Shoe laces? Asphalt/concrete? Reefs?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2016 03:48 PM (voOPb)

Quantitative analysis, discrete calculus, non-Euclidean geometry?

Posted by: redbanzai at March 07, 2016 03:50 PM (OrI3J)

110
Just read the article titles in the References for some big laughs. Example: "Climbing like a Girl: An Exemplary Adventure in Feminist Phenomenology"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2016 03:50 PM (hQAYN)

111 You dumb b*tches, its a f*cking ice cube

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 07, 2016 03:50 PM (voOPb)

112 I was going to download the article but I notice it was only showing 2 'views', and thought it best if it was ignored since there is some reward for a large number of downloads (Glenn Reynolds offers thanks to people who download his work.)

From my superficial examination, it reads like the researchers are talking about how men research glaciers, not about glaciers. Although there are some comments about glaciers and how men have misrepresented the truth about glaciers because the patriarchy is prejudiced.

And as important as this is, and it is important because it looks like fraud, but . . .if county mental health comes around to check on my welfare, they will have me committed to an institution. And so, I really need to clean house.

Ok, wait. Maybe Ace mention that. I need to reread the post.

Just as soon as I can find my car keys.

Posted by: Gordon Lastherder at March 07, 2016 03:50 PM (MIyiE)

113 Can't they leave anything uncontaminated? Not even science?

No. Why should they?

Postmodernism is primarily a reaction to the inability of post-Darwin western culture to provide convincing grounds for belief that 1) there is an objective reality 2) subject to laws that humans can make sense of.

Destroy the philosophical grounds for believing that science is possible, and you get lousy science. Pretty simple.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 07, 2016 03:50 PM (bZ7mE)

114 Why is there no glaciers in the Sahara?
That bitch Sahara hates them.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 03:51 PM (fizMZ)

115 II Why feminist glaciology?

Because we are here not just to destroy you but to humiliate you. It must be a final, complete victory over God, man, free will, and the very joy that animates the human soul. For that victory to be complete you must not simply be destroyed, but choose that destruction of your own volition. We will corrupt your institutions, your universities, we will turn your children against you, we will unmake and defile the very words you speak until your fellow men and women are specters, forms you can see but not touch or converse with. We will pollute your lives until you embrace the cleansing pain of fire as preferable to the grayness of the world we make. We will make death as sacred as you have made life, and life as foul to you as death.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 03:51 PM (xuouz)

116 By writing this, the author is $400,000 richer.

Shit of this nature has been going on for decades, at levels far above this example.

But when faced with an election to continue the status quo of grants just like this or the chance of radical, fundamental change, what is the recommendation?

Posted by: jwest at March 07, 2016 03:51 PM (Zs4uk)

117 I knew those glaciers wouldn't get away with their white patriarchy forever!

Posted by: tbodie at March 07, 2016 03:51 PM (FrMyu)

118 Devolution.

Posted by: Devo at March 07, 2016 03:51 PM (fbovC)

119 In Spanish, it's called "el glaciar."

In Gaelic, it's called "oighearshruth."

In Czech, it's "ledovec."

In Feminazi, it's "man-hate." But then, most every word in Feminazi is "man-hate."


Posted by: kathysaysso at March 07, 2016 03:51 PM (43OZ6)

120 So is it now socially unacceptable to say "glacial striations" and talk about "age" in polite company?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 07, 2016 03:51 PM (GGCsk)

121 OREGON!

Yeah! We Rule! So put that in your non-feminist-glacier-having pipe and smoke it!


(side note: Hey, Oregon Muse, let's get in on some of this sweet, sweet grant money!)

Posted by: Oregon Atarian at March 07, 2016 03:52 PM (q509P)

122 When I got to Feminist Glaciology Framework I had to stop.

1) For my sanity
2) Keep what little brain cells I have left intact.

Posted by: Cheri at March 07, 2016 03:52 PM (oiNtH)

123 Leftists politicize everything. Everything.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 03:52 PM (fizMZ)

124 We already talked about this gibberish in one of the morning threads.

>>(1) knowledge producers, to decipher how gender affects the individuals producing glacier-related knowledges; (2) gendered science and knowledge, to address how glacier science, perceptions, and claims to credibility are gendered; (3) systems of scientific domination, to analyze how power, domination, colonialism, and control -- undergirded by and coincident with masculinist ideologies -- have shaped glacier-related sciences and knowledges over time; and (4) alternative representations, to illustrate diverse methods and ways --beyond the natural sciences and including what we refer to as 'folk glaciologies' [!!!!== to portray glaciers and integrate counter-narratives into broader conceptions of the cryosphere.




What in the ever living hell.

Ace, you did yoeman's work in critiquing this unspeakable dummy speak. Now take several hours to try to recover the IQ points that were destroyed by this article.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 07, 2016 03:52 PM (Itgns)

125 This shit just makes me more pissed at SMOD.

#icelivesmatter

Posted by: eman at March 07, 2016 03:52 PM (mR7Es)

126 (4) alternative representations, to illustrate diverse methods and ways
--beyond the natural sciences and including what we refer to as 'folk
glaciologies' [!!!!== to portray glaciers and integrate
counter-narratives into broader conceptions of the cryosphere.

WTF? Are they stating the key to studying glaciers is the stories handed down about glaciers? Or are they referring to pseudo-science of which they intend to contribute? Also, are glaciers now people? And is banging ice, without written permission from the ice, now rape? Cuz that would that would piss me off.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2016 03:52 PM (0vdts)

127 117
I knew those glaciers wouldn't get away with their white patriarchy forever!

Posted by: tbodie at March 07, 2016 03:51 PM (FrMyu)

...Preach brother!!!

Posted by: Right Rev. Al Sharpton at March 07, 2016 03:52 PM (INxoa)

128 Now I have read the post.

So "Frozen" is actually a documentary on human-ice interactions with a strong feminist "you go girl" take to it with the powerful female creating not life but rather ice. The actions of the Prince show how the patriarchy is jealous of the strong female need to create new ice and is eventually thwarted by the emotional bond between the two sisters and the ice that has been created.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (hLRSq)

129 Now that this infant '13 college grad has joined our ranks, can I hang out on everybody's lawns?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (xuouz)

130 Another reason why we need free public colleges and universities.

Prof Gary Saul Morson wrote a book some years ago called "And Quiet Flows the Vodka" -- don't ask, about Russian literature, but he wrote (my recollection) that if a college field includes the word "studies" you will learn nothing about the subject but a lot about studies, eg, "mathematical studies" would cover many things but not mathematics. This allows people without the necessary intellectual ability to major in something that sounds like a real field of study.

Posted by: mallfly at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (qSIlh)

131 It takes ages and the glacier has to want to change!

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (JO9+V)

132 So, basically these idjits are saying that actual, scientific work and discovery on the subject of glaciers is somehow invalid because the people doing the work have penises instead of vaginas.

What a stupid, stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (KkVB6)

133 I maintain a positive, encouraging attitude: instead of saying no and shutting down a student's enthusiasm, I seek a positive compromise. For example Jules, a three-year-old that I nannied in France, loved going to the pool. He couldn't swim, so he wore a life vest whenever we went swimming. Even though he was scared, he wanted to go down the waterslide like the older children. Instead of saying no and not permitting him to go down the waterslide, I saw an opportunity for him to push his boundaries in a safe way, by going down the slide with him. At the top of the slide he was trembling with nervousness, and at the bottom he was trembling from exhilaration. It was beautiful. Until he went down without me and ended up drowning. Teaching him to swim should have been a priority.

Posted by: Starflower at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (/D5Lf)

134 My IQ and lifespan went down reading that content, but I still appreciate it. *drools*

Posted by: OneIronMacGuffin at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (NjX7M)

135 Feminist critical theory is science for dummies

Posted by: ThunderB at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (zOTsN)

136 102 Of course glaciers are female. They've been crushing stones since the beginning.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 07, 2016 03:49 PM (XtAzU)


gets my vote for thread winner

Posted by: Viciously Bitter Feminist at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (vA94g)

137 This really does read like one of those fake studies presented to see how far it gets accepted. You know, the kind done deliberately to prove how stupid and corrupt the scientific community has become, and how you can get peer reviewed publication for money or by saying the right kind of stuff.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (39g3+)

138 We need to get in on this too!!!

#BlackIceMatters

Posted by: #BLM at March 07, 2016 03:54 PM (H9MG5)

139 But when faced with an election to continue the status quo of grants just like this or the chance of radical, fundamental change, what is the recommendation?
Posted by: jwest at March 07, 2016 03:51 PM (Zs4uk)

I'm not a feminist, but 400 grand is 400 grand.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 03:54 PM (xuouz)

140 Shouldn't people at the University of Oregon be studying something like beaver habits or sage grouse mating patterns? Who the heck would give them money to study glaciers?


Posted by: Marcus T at March 07, 2016 03:54 PM (GGCsk)

141 Does this esker make my drumlin look fat?

Posted by: eman at March 07, 2016 03:54 PM (mR7Es)

142 bgfsp

Posted by: Shoey at March 07, 2016 03:54 PM (vA94g)

143 ...them glaciers ain't no wahys tarred...

Posted by: HILLARY! at March 07, 2016 03:54 PM (INxoa)

144 Any moron here try writing an book? or series of papers? Did *you* get a $400 grand advance on it?

Those "scholars" must suck a mean d!ck.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 07, 2016 03:55 PM (5GVKE)

145 So, is the ice cube in my bourbon a xer, cis, or some social construct in between? I'll ask the creature who poured urine all over the sensible blonde.

Posted by: OneIronMacGuffin at March 07, 2016 03:55 PM (NjX7M)

146 Wouldn't you have loved to be in that special little study group? Curled up at some off beat bookstore, drinking their organic chai tea, the smell of patchouli, clove cigarettes, and underarm odor wafting through the air while they delve into theories that would be absurd to a third grader.

Posted by: Cheri at March 07, 2016 03:55 PM (oiNtH)

147 "...yes I have -- crazy amount of building up there...they need to keep going East on Euclid Ave...! Course the biggest news lately is about all of the robberies (assaults) in the area...not that this hasn't always been the case...at Case!

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 03:49 PM (INxoa) "

Yeah, I still get the emergency alerts since I use my CWRU e-mail for professional purposes; even the new developments haven't really made it a safe area. Of course pushing past the 'bridge of no return' might help clean up the area, though I'm sure they'd be accused of gentrification. Of course, it only takes a few thugs to make it a dangerous area, and I think they correctly assume that most students walking alone at night have no means of self-defense.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:55 PM (4/i9Y)

148 Lol. Repost of my comment on the oak painting from last week:

111 The painting is problematic in that it assumes the organic matter depicted self identifies as an oak, but as long as society continues to operate under the binary misconception of animal/plant we will continue to repress organics who truly do not find their identity within the photosynthnomative sphere of thinking and plantiarchy.

Posted by: NotCoach at March 03, 2016 10:45 AM (rsudF)

Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 03:55 PM (rsudF)

149 This is crap.

What a stupid time to be alive.

I wonder if the perpetrators are knowingly getting over on academia or if they are earnest.

I'd have more respect for the con-artist version.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 07, 2016 03:56 PM (kKHcp)

150 What a stupid, stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (KkVB6)

...yes, yes and yes.

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 03:56 PM (INxoa)

151 Dis is beeyootiful stuff!

And if you complain it is just gibberish, it is either because:
a. you are a misogynist asshole
b. you are too stupid to understand the subject

How does one apply for work on one of these scams???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 07, 2016 03:56 PM (so+oy)

152 Why am I reminded of Jimmy McGill bullshitting the cops with his totally invented story about the "squat cobbler" fetish video on "Better Call Saul"?

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 07, 2016 03:56 PM (zEIsv)

153 Hey, that's "Doctor" Scam Artist to you, bub...

Posted by: tu3031 at March 07, 2016 03:56 PM (YFFpo)

154 I'm not a feminist, but 400 grand is 400 grand.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 03:54 PM (xuouz)


I could almost respect the authors if they were knowingly writing gibberish for the filthy lucre... sadly most of that $400,000 was likely eaten by "overhead" expenses.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 07, 2016 03:56 PM (OrI3J)

155 re 140: or the mating habits of glaciers. where do you think icebergs come from, frozen Jews?

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 07, 2016 03:56 PM (qSIlh)

156 My original suspicions were correct. Glaciers ARE a tool of the Patriarchy.


Fucking glaciers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 07, 2016 03:56 PM (8ZskC)

157 My original suspicions were correct. Glaciers ARE a tool of the Patriarchy.


Reality is a tool of the Patriarchy

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 07, 2016 03:57 PM (bZ7mE)

158 "Now that this infant '13 college grad has joined our ranks, can I hang out on everybody's lawns?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (xuouz) "

I was a late college entrant - I'm actually turning 29 this year. And I've been a moron since 2014, I just tuned out of politics for a while in an attempt to regain my sanity. (It didn't work)

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:57 PM (4/i9Y)

159 I couldn't even get though most of that nonsense. It could have been written in Sanskrit. What a load of utter "feminist" verbal masterbatory NONSENSE!

Posted by: LegzzzAkimbo at March 07, 2016 03:58 PM (659DL)

160 So, a "studies" prof can write a meta-paper about other papers and thereby declare him/her/xe/self an expert on the subject matter, by virtue of having read the other papers, without having to do one iota of actual science research.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2016 03:58 PM (JO9+V)

161 "A critical but overlooked aspect of the human dimensions of glaciers and global change research is the relationship between gender and glaciers."

How do you determine the gender of a glacier? Come to think of it, I did once encounter a glacier with a dick on it. But it was my dick. I don't mean I knew the ice biblically - that would recreate the tongue-on-flagpole scene from A Christmas Story.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 07, 2016 03:58 PM (/f6Nd)

162 Another proof of the sad state of our Universities. Laughable were they not so serious. In the Academy, publishing is all.

Posted by: rocdoctom at March 07, 2016 03:58 PM (nP2eK)

163 140 Shouldn't people at the University of Oregon be studying something like beaver habits or sage grouse mating patterns?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 07, 2016 03:54 PM (GGCsk)



Beaver habits? Uh oh...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 03:58 PM (oKE6c)

164 Anthony Watts, at Watts Up With That, is laughing at this paper, too, and the comment section agrees.

http://tinyurl.com/z2t4xpv

Posted by: m at March 07, 2016 03:58 PM (S/1cF)

165 Of course pushing past the 'bridge of no return' might help clean up the
area, though I'm sure they'd be accused of gentrification.
Of course, it only takes a few thugs to make it a
dangerous area, and I think they correctly assume that most students
walking alone at night have no means of self-defense.


Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:55 PM (4/i9Y)

......bridge of no return...HEH!...GUN FREE ZONE!...

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 03:58 PM (INxoa)

166 And yet, The Plaster Casters were completely Self-Funded. What a world.Posted by: garrett


If that means what I think it means, than I am somewhat embarrassed to know what that means.

Perhaps it's a call for a simpler time, when plaster was readily available to women and they sought -- not to make an impression on the world -- but to make an impression of a man.

Posted by: mega machines at March 07, 2016 03:59 PM (fbovC)

167 This is, by the way, just one more salvo in a war against science by the radical left, for whom the absolute, objective status of science and math is an abomination before the state.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 03:59 PM (39g3+)

168 Next up: a feminist perspective on gendered gravity.


Maybe that would account for their weight.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 03:59 PM (oKE6c)

169 "Repeat the mantras, the tribe will reward you."

From my new book, How To Succeed In Jargoning, only $199.95 from O'Daniel University Press.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 03:59 PM (oVJmc)

170 "I wonder if the perpetrators are knowingly getting over on academia or if they are earnest.

I'd have more respect for the con-artist version.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 07, 2016 03:56 PM (kKHcp) "

Sadly, I think most of them are earnest. That or they're spectacularly good at hiding their intentions.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:59 PM (4/i9Y)

171 I was a late college entrant - I'm actually turning 29 this year. And I've been a moron since 2014, I just tuned out of politics for a while in an attempt to regain my sanity. (It didn't work)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:57 PM (4/i9Y)


In the end, all will bow to cathulhu.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 07, 2016 03:59 PM (uURQL)

172 Sage Grouse.

Any grouse you can't eat deserves extinction.

Posted by: garrett at March 07, 2016 04:00 PM (440T9)

173 This is the Socialization of Science...

Because science is unfriendly... its hard... its either right or wrong...

While in Socialized Science.... like... Global Warming... the actual facts become unimportant... its the ability to bullshit yourself into Money and Political Power, that is important... all the while making yourself look important....

And even better... its a perpetual problem.. one that cannot be fixed because its does not really exist... so you don't have to actually come up with solutions!

Posted by: Don Q. at March 07, 2016 04:00 PM (RK8AH)

174 If you rape a glacier do your balls get frostbite?

Posted by: wth at March 07, 2016 04:00 PM (HgMAr)

175 I have two questions.

(1) Who is conducting research into the social perception issues that lie at the intersection of transgenderism and plate tectonics, and (2) is there any grant money that I can get for this?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 07, 2016 04:01 PM (8ZskC)

176 STEM? Most of these idiots will never learn to spell it.

Posted by: Bully at March 07, 2016 04:01 PM (6NjvM)

177 ARE YOU READY FOR A FEMINIST PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE?

We need to do away with functional-centric, bugphobic attitudes in programming.


http://tinyurl.com/okpuy3q

Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 04:01 PM (rsudF)

178 What was it John Ekdahl once said?

Posted by: chiefjaybob at March 07, 2016 04:01 PM (vulYo)

179 Translate it into elvish for some future generation to figure it out.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 04:01 PM (fizMZ)

180 Glaciers are mean and therefore must be male! Why else would they go after all of the innocent on the Titanic??

Womyn's Glacier Hate Group

Posted by: Cheri at March 07, 2016 04:01 PM (oiNtH)

181 #icelivesmatter

snork,

It'll be a cold day in hell when Muldoon reigns alone.

Posted by: DaveA at March 07, 2016 04:01 PM (DL2i+)

182 'Jaclyn found a report that noted how women are more vulnerable to glacier changes and hazards than are men,' said Carey, associate dean of the Clark Honors College and a professor of history and environmental studies. 'I had never researched these gendered vulnerabilities.'

That report linked flooding from a glacial lake with an increase of sexually transmitted infections in women. 'I was fascinated by how two seemingly disparate issues could be so intimately linked through glacial ice,' Rushing said. 'I wanted to know more about the relationship between women and ice, so we pursued the topic from climate-change vulnerability to knowledge.'



Where's AtC with the eyeball heroin

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 07, 2016 04:02 PM (/D5Lf)

183 Grant Proposal :

ABSTACT

Are heterosexual women afraid to tell lesbians their are ideas are stupid, possibly retarded, and that their hijacking of the feminist agenda has led many men to date blow-up dolls and certain farm animals, in a Middle Eastern style relationship?

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2016 04:02 PM (0vdts)

184 I was a late college entrant - I'm actually turning 29
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:57 PM (4/i9Y)

DAMNIT

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 04:02 PM (xuouz)

185 ...and they've picked poor glaciers as the next thing they'll pointlessly and narcissistically inject themselves into.

I wish they would, quite literally, "inject" themselves into glaciers. Then in a few thousand years they can be examined like Otzi, as remnants of a bygone era.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 07, 2016 04:02 PM (YJmuy)

186 Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 03:57 PM (4/i9Y)


Good on you and glad you're out there...last time I encountered a fellow Spartan was in Ohio City -- had a disagreement with a young woman about marriage (gay)...it wasn't pretty.

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 04:02 PM (INxoa)

187
So, basically these idjits are saying that actual, scientific work and discovery on the subject of glaciers is somehow invalid because the people doing the work have penises instead of vaginas.

What a stupid, stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (KkVB6)









Even worse, one of the authors cited multiple times apparently has on an academic crusade to prove that hard sciences are bogus unless they also incorporate Eskimo oral traditions (translation: Injun tall tales told around the campfire) into the analysis.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2016 04:03 PM (hQAYN)

188 If you rape a glacier do your balls get frostbite?




Just the tip.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 04:03 PM (eDmrZ)

189 I was in the pool! I was in the pool!

Posted by: George Glacier at March 07, 2016 04:03 PM (JO9+V)

190 More science. NOAA's own data shows no warming in the last 58 years.

http://tinyurl.com/hjl6vtz

Posted by: JackStraw at March 07, 2016 04:03 PM (/tuJf)

191 And of course Olav the Snowman is the result of human-ice interactions.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 07, 2016 04:03 PM (hLRSq)

192 In related news, our local school district is changing its STEM program to STEAM. The "A" stands for "art." I am not making this up.

I believe it's a way to release funds to teachers who know nothing of STEM, which is nearly all of them. Get science funding to teach finger-painting and graffitti techniques, sure, whatever.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 07, 2016 04:03 PM (/f6Nd)

193 129 Now that this infant '13 college grad has joined our ranks, can I hang out on everybody's lawns?
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 03:53 PM (xuouz)

Swing and a miss. Back out by the sidewalk for now.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at March 07, 2016 04:03 PM (kXzR8)

194 The "idea" of bullshit is no where near as bad as real bullshit.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 07, 2016 04:03 PM (zllbf)

195 We prefer the term Xelaciers.

Posted by: A Xelacier at March 07, 2016 04:04 PM (hHFOx)

196 >>That report linked flooding from a glacial lake with an increase of sexually transmitted infections in women.


That's gonna hurt our marketing.

Posted by: Glacier Clear Bottled Water at March 07, 2016 04:04 PM (440T9)

197 The answer to the riddle is: "the dildo was made of ice!"

Posted by: wooga at March 07, 2016 04:04 PM (vb0/F)

198 The first-order principle of people that create this dreck is to assume the existence of a patriarchy and then proceed to question everything about their strawman construct as a way of providing a "needed feminist approach" to the patriarchy.

I'm surprised that there isn't a feminist approach to basic arithmetic and math -- concepts which surely were also the products of the "patriarchy." (Of course, now other commenters are going to tell me that there is such as thing as feminist math, and I'll need to drink a fifth of whiskey to make the pain go away).

Posted by: Revenant at March 07, 2016 04:04 PM (y64uP)

199 "A critical but overlooked aspect of the human dimensions of glaciers and global change research is the relationship between gender and glaciers."

Yeah..... Glaciers calve off Icebergs.... which are a Bitch....

ergo...

Posted by: Capt. Ed Smith, SS Titanic at March 07, 2016 04:04 PM (RK8AH)

200 "......bridge of no return...HEH!...GUN FREE ZONE!...

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 03:58 PM (INxoa) "

Indeed, treading past the bridge at night is a good way to enter an existence-free zone, party of 1.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 04:04 PM (4/i9Y)

201 This BS has to make to a Portlantia episode.

Posted by: Buffalbob at March 07, 2016 04:05 PM (8nL8o)

202 Um, so... Go Ducks?? Always knew they were one of the dumbest schools in the Pac12...go COUGS!

Posted by: IC at March 07, 2016 04:05 PM (F8o5a)

203 The answer to the riddle is: "the dildo was made of ice!"




Ice boolits.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 04:05 PM (eDmrZ)

204 Broseideon and BillyGoat, another Blue/Grey Spartan here (08, aeroeng). Asked former roommate if the rocket engine he was designing for grad work was male, female, or transgendered.

Posted by: GeoSTI at March 07, 2016 04:05 PM (0e/Wy)

205 A STEAM degree can be had from the University of Cleveland.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 07, 2016 04:05 PM (5GVKE)

206 If their on a glacier studying it, and they have to piss do they put it in a container or hold it because directly on the glacier it will melt. That would be bad.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 04:06 PM (fizMZ)

207 Someone's Daddy didn't love her enough.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at March 07, 2016 04:06 PM (k8tEg)

208 205 A STEAM degree can be had from the University of Cleveland.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 07, 2016 04:05 PM (5GVKE)


*pulls 'Urban Dictionary' off the shelf


O.O

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (/D5Lf)

209 Is global warming the patriarchy's attempt to oppress women by melting all of the glaciers? Is stopping global warming an act of revolutionary feminism?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (hLRSq)

210 175 I have two questions.

(1) Who is conducting research into the social perception issues that lie at the intersection of transgenderism and plate tectonics, and (2) is there any grant money that I can get for this?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 07, 2016 04:01 PM (8ZskC)


__________________________________________

I've already got it covered.

Patriarchal Dominance of Large Continental Plates Over Small Continental Plates as Demonstrated by Forced Subduction: Continental Plate Rape and its Harmful Effects on Society

Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (rsudF)

211
A STEAM degree can be had from the University of Cleveland.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 07, 2016 04:05 PM (5GVKE)










*snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (hQAYN)

212 Shorter version. Mysticism as science

Posted by: A.G. at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (rsai5)

213 Hmm. Iceberg, that sounds Jewish.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (8ZskC)

214 this is a humanities project

what is the National Science Foundation doing funding a humanities project?

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (tT9mZ)

215 "DAMNIT

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 04:02 PM (xuouz) "

It's okay, they only let me on the lawn when it needs to be mowed. And they catcall me. But afterwards, they buy me a Coke and a penny candy, so all in all it's not a bad deal.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (4/i9Y)

216 'I wanted to know more about the relationship between women and ice, so we pursued the topic from climate-change vulnerability to knowledge.'

I'll tell you about ice! For my hourly scotch it is a no-no, but for anything with vodka or gin I like cubed, and of course crushed with my margaritas!

>>Hic>>

Posted by: Hillary at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (oiNtH)

217 She's as cold as Ice.... she's willing to sacrifice our love....

Posted by: Foreigner at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (RK8AH)

218 This is crap.

What a stupid time to be alive.
-------------------------

Truthfully, at their point on the continuum, they are shoulder-to-shoulder with the medieval retros who wasted megadynes of brain power on whether angels defecated. And yet they see themselves as the antidote to religious myth.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (5o5ek)

219 Hey, this glacier stuff is in hand, well understood, not much left to do. So like all government drones, you need to invent some fiction about glaciers and use it to sustain your phony baloney livelihood. Instead of a block of ice it is a tool of the oppressor.
Awaiting the paper proposing that Heisenberg's dead cat is always female.

Posted by: Oopso Facto at March 07, 2016 04:08 PM (FtrY1)

220 Why did Howard Dean implode with his scream speech and Hillary breaking out barking in the middle of the one have no effect?

How much more screwed up and demented must granny get before even the press says "you know..."

Answer: no such threshhold exists, because the alternative is Bernie Sanders who is not in the race to seriously win. If Hillary goes down in flames, the Democrats do not have a plan B.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:08 PM (39g3+)

221 I'm surprised that there isn't a feminist approach to basic arithmetic and math -- concepts which surely were also the products of the "patriarchy." (Of course, now other commenters are going to tell me that there is such as thing as feminist math, and I'll need to drink a fifth of whiskey to make the pain go away).
Posted by: Revenant at March 07, 2016 04:04 PM (y64uP)

Look, you're amongst the Horde. No need to justify drinking whiskey to us.

Posted by: tbodie at March 07, 2016 04:08 PM (FrMyu)

222 This seemed apropriate: https://youtu.be/eC99JhQq-3w (sfw)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 07, 2016 04:09 PM (YJmuy)

223 At the risk of sounding like an ignorant philistine:

I read the other day that Moore's Law has been broken, and that the density of integrated circuits no longer doubles every couple of years. I guess the engineers ran up against the limits of physics, when the size of features started approaching the size of the atoms making up the substrate.

And I've sometimes wondered, looking at gobbledygook like this, and at string theory, which seems to me to be mathematical bullshit: Maybe we've reached peak knowledge. Maybe we've reached our pinnacle and there's no more room for advancement, at least dramatic advancement, more than minutiae at the margins of knowledge.

Posted by: Pastafarian at March 07, 2016 04:09 PM (LqrRo)

224 True fact: I shagged a glacier once.

Posted by: Chicago Vota at March 07, 2016 04:09 PM (3T0tP)

225 Starting to wonder whether Mao and Pol Pot hadn't hit on something

Posted by: random lurker at March 07, 2016 04:10 PM (+tRIN)

226 Marvelous takedown, Ace. Man, you analyzed the shit out of that. And now, it's so clear, it's like internalized.

Posted by: bour3 at March 07, 2016 04:10 PM (5x3+2)

227 A STEAM degree can be had from the University of Cleveland.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 07, 2016 04:05 PM (5GVKE)



Now you don't have to play hockey to call yourself a Cleveland STEAMer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 07, 2016 04:10 PM (8ZskC)

228 Ellsworth Toohey: She is the ellsworth toohey of glacial knowledge.

Posted by: jb at March 07, 2016 04:10 PM (TRB7J)

229 $400k on this? We have that kinda money to blow? Well we don't. We are never getting back to the moon, are we? Never gonna get to Mars. Hell, in a couple of decades or less we will lose the ability to even put up a Sputnik beeping satellite.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2016 04:10 PM (JO9+V)

230 "Good on you and glad you're out there...last time I encountered a fellow Spartan was in Ohio City -- had a disagreement with a young woman about marriage (gay)...it wasn't pretty.

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 04:02 PM (INxoa) "

There were actually a decent amount of conservatives in my clubs, which I guess isn't too surprising since it's an engineering school. I was a humanities major though, so most of my classmates were red diaper dandies. I happily only had a couple hyper-leftist profs, though.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 04:10 PM (4/i9Y)

231 218 This is crap.

What a stupid time to be alive.
-------------------------

Truthfully, at their point on the continuum, they are shoulder-to-shoulder with the medieval retros who wasted megadynes of brain power on whether angels defecated. And yet they see themselves as the antidote to religious myth.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (5o5ek)


And in the name of Diversity, we must celebrate the inane, insane, and stupid....

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 07, 2016 04:11 PM (RK8AH)

232 I can't read it. I literally can't read it. I get a few sentences in, and the words just blur, I can't make out a damn thing they're trying to say, my eyes stop picking out words, and my mind just stops.

I shit you not. My brain simply can not, or will not, process this shit. It's got to be related, somehow, to why I can't "appreciate" most of the art thread stuff.

Boring as hell to you ... but fascinating to me. In a WTF manner of speaking.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 07, 2016 04:11 PM (p6cXT)

233 "on whether angels defecated"

if it weren't for the medieval universities, we wouldn't have universities

the interesting question for me is who at NSF was told to write a CFP for this crap, and who led the team that scored this proposal

cut off the money, and this sort of shit dies a quick death

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:11 PM (tT9mZ)

234 Truthfully, at their point on the continuum, they are shoulder-to-shoulder with the medieval retros who wasted megadynes of brain power on whether angels defecated.

And for much the same reason: religious discussion. It sound stupid, but scholars were puzzling out how material and physical angels were or if they ate or not. None of it mattered, of course, but in a religion that encourages you to think, analyze, debate, think and study, its the kind of odd stuff that comes up in an academic setting.

Same deal for these folks, except their motivation is not reason and analysis but as Ace notes: how do we inject our radical politics into an area that stubbornly resists nonsense and irrationalism?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:11 PM (39g3+)

235 Short version:

These bitches have Glacier Envy.

Posted by: zombie at March 07, 2016 04:11 PM (jBuUi)

236 I'm surprised that there isn't a feminist approach to basic arithmetic and math -- concepts which surely were also the products of the "patriarchy." (Of course, now other commenters are going to tell me that there is such as thing as feminist math, and I'll need to drink a fifth of whiskey to make the pain go away).

Posted by: Revenant at March 07, 2016 04:04 PM (y64uP)


________________________________________

Moving Towards a Feminist Epistemology of Mathematics

http://tinyurl.com/jlpaqlj

Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 04:11 PM (rsudF)

237 They are trying to create "value" for a totally worthless degree.

Whoever let this steaming pile through the screening process-

hell, whoever even glanced in the generally direction of this piece of crap needs to be fired from the NSF.

Marxist oriented jealousy and whining contributes nothing to science.

President Cruz or President Trump needs to audit this nonsense and cut the funding as appropriate.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 07, 2016 04:11 PM (0cMkb)

238 CWRU: Introducing white farm kids to the ghetto since '67.

Was at Weatherhead for MBA, in a work group of very nice women. Three are late 20's white girls, one is a late 20's african-american who grew up in the Mayfield area. On the first night of classes she gave a wonderful little briefing to the rest of the group:

"Look, I have to tell you, except for (GeoSTI) because he went to school here and is a guy, that there are streets surrounding this campus that you do not cross and don't travel alone around here at night. This is not suburbia."

Posted by: GeoSTI at March 07, 2016 04:12 PM (0e/Wy)

239 When glaciers split the female glaciers get custody of all the smaller glaciers.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 07, 2016 04:12 PM (DYDUy)

240 So, a "studies" prof can write a meta-paper about other papers and thereby declare him/her/xe/self an expert on the subject matter, by virtue of having read the other papers, without having to do one iota of actual science research.

--

I think that is how historians do it. But I am not a historian, nor an expert in the field, so I have to make allowances for historians who consult the original documents (those that still exist).

Something like what the lawyers do, this precedent, that court case where the judge found. et cetera and so forth, and ignore what the law says, because it doesn't say that, and this law doesn't apply in this case as precedent has shown. And so, what my client did is not a crime as described in the statute.


Of course, I am not a lawyer either.


Posted by: Gordon Lastherder at March 07, 2016 04:12 PM (MIyiE)

241 Can't we all agree the most misogynistic and patriarchal member of the Frozen Sciences is hail? Have you ever been out in public and been frozen-splained by a hail storm? Total Bullshit. And sleets not much better.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2016 04:12 PM (0vdts)

242 A little less of this and a little more learning how to use the remote.

Posted by: Mega at March 07, 2016 04:12 PM (hHFOx)

243 Answer: no such threshhold exists, because the alternative is Bernie Sanders who is not in the race to seriously win. If Hillary goes down in flames, the Democrats do not have a plan B.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:08 PM (39g3+)

I'm beginning to fear she'll wrangle him onto the ticket.

But that might just piss off the stupid Berniebots even more.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 04:12 PM (xuouz)

244 Twitter page for one of the authors:

https://twitter.com/sandroantonello

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 04:12 PM (oVJmc)

245 226 Marvelous takedown, Ace. Man, you analyzed the shit out of that. And now, it's so clear, it's like internalized.

Posted by: bour3 at March 07, 2016 04:10 PM (5x3+2)


Having the courage to take on the subject is what's going to win the Pulitzer.

Posted by: jwest at March 07, 2016 04:12 PM (Zs4uk)

246 "Additionally, the feminist perspective seeks to uncover and embrace marginalized knowledges and alternative narratives,"

If that were the case, would women be less likely to embrace the notion of climate change??

Posted by: Wendy at March 07, 2016 04:13 PM (bpemY)

247 205 A STEAM degree can be had from the University of Cleveland.

You mean, Cleveland State?

Posted by: GeoSTI at March 07, 2016 04:13 PM (0e/Wy)

248 The glacier is the dick.

The glacial valley is the vagina.

Thrusting ever-downward, the glacier rapes Gaia.

Oh the Hermanity!

Posted by: zombie at March 07, 2016 04:13 PM (jBuUi)

249 221 I'm surprised that there isn't a feminist approach to basic arithmetic and math -- concepts which surely were also the products of the "patriarchy." (Of course, now other commenters are going to tell me that there is such as thing as feminist math, and I'll need to drink a fifth of whiskey to make the pain go away).
Posted by: Revenant at March 07, 2016 04:04 PM (y64uP)

Look, you're amongst the Horde. No need to justify drinking whiskey to us.

Posted by: tbodie at March 07, 2016 04:08 PM (FrMyu)


Uh... there is a Feminist version of Math.... its called common core... with 'Friendly Numbers'.... where the answer is not as important as the long drawn out stupid procedure to get there...

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 07, 2016 04:13 PM (RK8AH)

250 Ace mansplained me. The nerve.
Ice >>> Ace
Science!!!!

Posted by: Glacier queen at March 07, 2016 04:13 PM (cbfNE)

251 I bet Ace would be a fantastic grant writer. He could probably put so much sciency sounding bullshit into 10,000 words that they'd be begging for him to take that sweet Federal Cash.

Posted by: Timon at March 07, 2016 04:13 PM (KSonr)

252 I'm surprised that there isn't a feminist approach to basic arithmetic and math -- concepts which surely were also the products of the "patriarchy."

There is. And a Black Studies approach (the man stole it all from the Egyptians who were totes black back then). Postmodernist deconstruction and rejection of absolutes has been bashing against the walls of science and math for a decade or two now, finding little purchase but they see signs of hope in the future.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)

253 Ace, you are looking at this entirely the wrong way.

You should be supporting the basic premise of this study, if not the actual findings.

Basically, they are saying that despite glaciology being a pure science, even a pure science can be effected by the prejudices of the "knowledge producers". These numbnutz think the prejudices that are effecting the pure science of glaciology has to do with gender (or whatever, blah, blah, blah). However, if you were to replace the prejudice of gender with the prejudice of political affiliation or political ideology, then you are getting somewhere.

Would a pure science where knowledge production was dominated by progressives be the same as a pure science where knowledge production was dominated by conservatives? How do these ingrained biases impact knowledge production in even pure sciences? I would say significantly.

Posted by: tommylotto at March 07, 2016 04:13 PM (A3a8d)

254 This thing is so stupid I ca't even read the fisking.

Posted by: Buford Gooch at March 07, 2016 04:14 PM (bOtTO)

255 President Cruz or President Trump needs to audit this nonsense and cut the funding as appropriate.


And where would our rich American tradition of federally-funded cowboy poetry be if everyone had this type of ugly cynicism?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 07, 2016 04:14 PM (8ZskC)

256 I'm surprised that there isn't a feminist approach to basic arithmetic and math



"How can I be out of money? I still have checks left!"
- Blonde to bank teller

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 04:14 PM (eDmrZ)

257 So what did they spend $400,000 on? Doing electronic literature searches is worth 400k?

Maybe the real achievement here is denying the funds to groups doing actual science.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 07, 2016 04:14 PM (/f6Nd)

258 204
Broseideon and BillyGoat, another Blue/Grey Spartan here (08, aeroeng).
Asked former roommate if the rocket engine he was designing for grad
work was male, female, or transgendered.

Posted by: GeoSTI at March 07, 2016 04:05 PM (0e/Wy)

Spartan pride...!...have a friend who (shall remain nameless / department less), who keeps me up to speed with life at Case...the stories she tells me about some of the profs make me shake my head in disbelief...

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 04:14 PM (INxoa)

259 Moving Towards a Feminist Epistemology of Mathematics



http://tinyurl.com/jlpaqlj

Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 04:11 PM (rsudF)

Bottoms' up man.
Look, you're amongst the Horde. No need to justify drinking whiskey to us.

Posted by: tbodie at March 07, 2016 04:08 PM (FrMyu)

I love it here. [hic]

Posted by: Revenant at March 07, 2016 04:14 PM (y64uP)

260 192 In related news, our local school district is changing its STEM program to STEAM. The "A" stands for "art." I am not making this up.
I believe it's a way to release funds to teachers who know nothing of STEM, which is nearly all of them. Get science funding to teach finger-painting and graffitti techniques, sure, whatever.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 07, 2016 04:03 PM (/f6Nd)



Our little Guevara schooled his AP history teacher last week when the teacher brought up the national debt. Little Guevara was the only one - including the teacher - who knew it is $19 trillion.


He - wisely - did not ask the teacher my follow-up liberal-killer question: "how many zeroes in one trillion?" I've never received the correct answer from a liberal. Not once.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 04:14 PM (oKE6c)

261 I can't write, in an academic sense, but I am willing to be a human subject for someone who can. Of course, we split the grant money.

Potential subjects to which I can contribute:

- Crazy Cat Women: Are they really all that crazy?

- Floridians: Some Do (Not) Like It Hot

- Abstinence: The Plight of Chubby, Middle-Aged Women in a Seven Cat Household

- Middle Age Women: Why 50 Is Not The New 40

I'm taking bids.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 07, 2016 04:14 PM (8PbKi)

262 I prefer to keep my interactions with ice where it belongs...in my cocktail glass.

Posted by: no good deed at March 07, 2016 04:15 PM (GgxVX)

263 Apparently the ladies behind this groundbreaking work are all graduates of Trump University.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2016 04:15 PM (0vdts)

264 I shit you not. My brain simply can not, or will not, process this shit. It's got to be related, somehow, to why I can't "appreciate" most of the art thread stuff.

Boring as hell to you ... but fascinating to me. In a WTF manner of speaking.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 07, 2016 04:11 PM (p6cXT)

Yep. Mostly just read ace's comments on it.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 07, 2016 04:15 PM (/D5Lf)

265 I do not feel safe, because I identify as a glacier, and you are trying to erase my identity

Posted by: Lurker Primus at March 07, 2016 04:15 PM (tHP3B)

266 And I've sometimes wondered, looking at gobbledygook like this, and at string theory, which seems to me to be mathematical bullshit: Maybe we've reached peak knowledge. Maybe we've reached our pinnacle and there's no more room for advancement, at least dramatic advancement, more than minutiae at the margins of knowledge.
Posted by: Pastafarian at March 07, 2016 04:09 PM (LqrRo)

There was speculation about this after the invention of the steam engine. And theoretical physics is by its nature weird and mostly wrong. I love phlogiston-based chemical theories from the 1700s. It takes repeated swings and misses to get it right.

There's more out there. We will eventually reach the stars.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 04:15 PM (xuouz)

267 our universities have produced thousands of graduates with irritable howl syndrome

all they are taught to see is political bias and "injustice" everywhere. it's what they're trained to do.

they borrowed good money to learn how to complain and agitate, dammit!

so some a**hole in the federal government decided NSF needed a budget line for "studies that characterize and complain about the evil culture that led humanity to melt the ice caps and doom us all to a fiery death unless international socialists are given every power to run our lives"

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:16 PM (tT9mZ)

268 Some of these eggheads need to spend some time watching farm animals.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 07, 2016 04:16 PM (TnUKj)

269 And is banging ice, without written permission from the ice, now rape? Cuz that would that would piss me off.


Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2016 03:52 PM (0vdts)



It might that that thing that she does did with the ice in her mouth is now only a fond memory.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 07, 2016 04:16 PM (8Y7+f)

270 School paper website about the fine work being done here:

http://around.uoregon.edu/content/glaciers-melt-more-voices-research-are-needed

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 04:16 PM (oVJmc)

271 Where is a feminist deconstruction of parallel parking? Huh?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 04:16 PM (oKE6c)

272 where the answer is not as important as the long drawn out stupid procedure to get there

And if that ain't feminine method, what is? It felt like the right answer!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:16 PM (39g3+)

273 Crap. Schrodinger's dead cat. I'll work on a Heisenberg proposal, uncertain if that is possible.

Old people say the darnedest things.

Posted by: Oopso Facto at March 07, 2016 04:17 PM (FtrY1)

274 So this is where our 21 trillion went. This is what happens when we let gov't borrow and squander and waste, with nobody accountable to produce anything of value.

Posted by: Anonymous-9 at March 07, 2016 04:17 PM (gDfQc)

275 These Glacier Feminists are taking the term "frigid" to a new level.

Posted by: zombie at March 07, 2016 04:17 PM (jBuUi)

276 263 Apparently the ladies behind this groundbreaking work are all graduates of Trump University.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2016 04:15 PM (0vdts)

There was only one woman and she didn't stick around to complete the study. Granted, it was her that got the ball rolling for this dumbassery.


http://tinyurl.com/hkj3cgm


'After Rushing graduated and left for Oregon State University to pursue a graduate degree, Carey brought in M Jackson, a doctoral student in geography, and Alessandro Antonello, a postdoctoral research fellow in the honors college, to look deeper into the science of glacier studies and explore the gender issues.'

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 07, 2016 04:17 PM (/D5Lf)

277 This reminded me, anyone ever have Glacier Bay beer? Just looked it up made in Virginia in the 80 -90's, worst swill maybe I've ever had.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 04:17 PM (fizMZ)

278 Maybe we've reached peak knowledge.

--

That is usually just about the time all hell breaks loose.

Posted by: Gordon Lastherder at March 07, 2016 04:18 PM (MIyiE)

279 Re 236....

Revenant, looks like you need to make a whiskey run.

Posted by: tbodie at March 07, 2016 04:18 PM (FrMyu)

280 Apparently the ladies behind this groundbreaking work are all graduates of Trump University.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2016 04:15 PM (0vdts)

Dr Spank! Thank you so much for mentioning Mr Trump! I've been waiting for an opportunity to talk to you about his campaign and the great work he's doing unifying the country, but I couldn't seem to find the right time in this thread... what would I, and by extension our whole movement to Make America Great Again, do without you.

I wanted to talk to you specifically about Mr. Trump's plans regarding education! No, please, don't get up, I'll sit down...

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 04:18 PM (xuouz)

281 As Robert Heinlein said: "The main sign of when madness has possessed a crowed, or a civilization, is when the people are fearful of imaginary or trivial dangers but nonchalant about real and deep dangers. When that happens, there is gradual deterioration of mores, orientation, and social institutions - the Crazy Years have arrived.

Enjoy the war; the peace will be terrible.

Posted by: Professor Hubert Farnsworth at March 07, 2016 04:18 PM (rznWS)

282 "now other commenters are going to tell me that there is such a thing as feminist math"

Bingo.

Totally off the rails.

You could certainly argue for feminist geography being a thing, because PART of geography is stuff like countries, and societies, and imports and exports, and other shit that is, IN FACT, socially constructed. But not glaciers. Not math. Not physics. Feminist "philosopher of science" Sandra Harding once referred to Newton's Principia Mathematica as "Newton's rape manual". No, I am not making that up. She is currently a "Distinguished Professor" at UCLA.

Posted by: That's Horus not Whore Us at March 07, 2016 04:18 PM (eT0Ip)

283 Someone really, really, really wanted to drive the Zamboni.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z9HgXLaeeM

Posted by: no good deed at March 07, 2016 04:18 PM (GgxVX)

284 M Jackson could be a woman I guess.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 07, 2016 04:18 PM (/D5Lf)

285 If Hillary goes down in flames, the Democrats do not have a plan B.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:08 PM (39g3+)
--------------------

I dunno. Do you think Obama might have a Kerry or Biden behind up his sleeve? He's smart enough to know that the Clintons hate him and plan to raze his temple and build their own on its ruins.

If he winds up removing all the obstacles to her nomination, I bet it's only because he negotiates for a cut of the Clinton Foundation money after she becomes prez. How's that for a theory?

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 04:18 PM (5o5ek)

286 She didn't know it was rape until the glacier's check bounced?

Posted by: CrustyB at March 07, 2016 04:18 PM (GvSpB)

287 If only my dick and balls were ice...

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 07, 2016 04:18 PM (3epEl)

288
Buford Gooch:

"This thing is so stupid I can't even read the fisking."

Well said!

And, to cite something I recall seeing in the comments in earlier times:

"does ace even read his own blog?"

The Horde batted this half-dead mouse around rather extensively in the morning news dump thread. Not a criticism!

In fact, mayhaps ace's fisking here will result in even more attention to this absurdity. But really folks, a country that can get to this point, has the tools and basis to *recover* from this point? I'm skeptical.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 07, 2016 04:19 PM (QDnY+)

289 @230 Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 04:10 PM (4/i9Y)

...true that. But academia always has its fair share of lefties...and they seem to be multiplying.

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 04:19 PM (INxoa)

290 @5: "I like how it's a "Feminist framework for [whatever]" and the first author was still a guy."

He doesn't identify as a guy, though.

Posted by: Professor Hubert Farnsworth at March 07, 2016 04:19 PM (rznWS)

291 "Broseideon and BillyGoat, another Blue/Grey Spartan here (08, aeroeng). Asked former roommate if the rocket engine he was designing for grad work was male, female, or transgendered.

Posted by: GeoSTI at March 07, 2016 04:05 PM (0e/Wy) "

Hey, we're multiplying!

When that article came out recently again ranking Case as the #1 school in Ohio as far as mean graduate salary (or it might have been median, not sure), I joked that after years of standardized testing, it felt good to finally be dragging the average down for once. Variety is the spice of life, after all.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 04:19 PM (4/i9Y)

292 Anyone else want Tarzan to toss Jane off that tree limb in that GEICO commercial?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 07, 2016 04:19 PM (DYDUy)

293 "I wanted to know more about the relationship between women and ice, so we pursued the topic from climate-change vulnerability to knowledge."

Women and children hardest hit!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:19 PM (39g3+)

294 Going through and auditing the NOAA ground temperature measuring stations to be sure that they are all free of local interferences which can and do cause anomalously high readings? Can't do that. No money for it.

Feminist glaciology? Sure! Here's four hundred grand we borrowed from China.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2016 04:20 PM (noWW6)

295 It reads like a boilerplate article where they just fill in the blanks with "glaciology". If not the final paper, I guarantee the grant proposal was fill in the blank.

Posted by: Rokshox at March 07, 2016 04:20 PM (Ap82b)

296 Ice, Ice, Baby.

Posted by: Dr. V. Ice, PhD at March 07, 2016 04:21 PM (oVJmc)

297 I propose a research project. "Advancing Feminist Understanding of Gravity" in which we take people who write shit like this and throw them off buildings until they get the point and shut up. Anyone want to help with the grant proposal?

Posted by: the real ch3 at March 07, 2016 04:21 PM (wHYXk)

298 Feminist grammariology:

One knowledge, two knowledges.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 07, 2016 04:21 PM (Itgns)

299 Hey, you dick-possessers, stop ice-splaining glaciers to us!

Posted by: zombie at March 07, 2016 04:21 PM (jBuUi)

300 I know someone has probably already said it, but I thought feminist glaciology just meant not putting out as a means to an end.

Posted by: no good deed at March 07, 2016 04:21 PM (GgxVX)

301 This study is doing do Science what Tom Brady did to the integrity of football, with his cheating and whatnot.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2016 04:21 PM (0vdts)

302 @238 Posted by: GeoSTI at March 07, 2016 04:12 PM (0e/Wy)

When I was there (as a commuter), it was pretty different. Course Murray Hill and the inhabitants therein kind of kept the riff-raff on their heels a bit more........

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 04:22 PM (INxoa)

303 i wonder whether the NSF was responding in some way to the UN's sustainable development goals

http://bit.ly/1BbYL4H

this is what your masters are paying attention to

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:22 PM (tT9mZ)

304 So this is where our 21 trillion went.
------------------------

I've got a beard now!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at March 07, 2016 04:22 PM (5o5ek)

305 Glacier studies. Lilith, is that you?

Posted by: dr frasier crane at March 07, 2016 04:22 PM (WOyz5)

306 Saw the guy's Twitter profile. He calls himself a Glacier Historian. His next probing question: maybe Oezi the Iceman is transgender; after all, not all of him was found.

Posted by: Wendy at March 07, 2016 04:23 PM (bpemY)

307 I'm so hot for her, I'm so hot for her

I'm so hot for her, and she's so cold!

Put you hand on the heat, put you hand on the heat

C'mon baby let's go!

She's so cold, she's so cold, cold, she's so c-c-c-old!

But she's beautiful, though

Yeah she's so cold

She's so cold, she's so cold

She was born in an Artic zone . . .


Posted by: Mick Magma and the Stones at March 07, 2016 04:23 PM (JO9+V)

308 This study is doing do Science what Tom Brady did to the integrity of football, with his cheating and whatnot.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2016 04:21 PM (0vdts)

Absolutely nothing, since the latter, in both cases, is in no way to related to the former, except in the warped, sick minds of individuals who inexplicably make way too much fucking money?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 04:23 PM (xuouz)

309 282 "now other commenters are going to tell me that there is such a thing as feminist math"


Thank Oregon again...


http://tinyurl.com/jm78687


A Portrait of a Feminist Mathematics Classroom:
What Adolescent Girls Say About Mathematics,
Themselves, and Their Experiences in a 'Unique'
Learning Environment

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 07, 2016 04:23 PM (/D5Lf)

310 271 Where is a feminist deconstruction of parallel parking? Huh?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 07, 2016 04:16 PM (oKE6c)


_______________________________________

Patriarchal Dominance and Parallel Parking: How Inserting a Vehicle Into a Parking Slot is Akin to Rape, and Why Women are Naturally Adverse to It

Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 04:24 PM (rsudF)

311 Whoa! Ace came with the big hammer today. I almost passed out from reading the quoted parts. They sort of hurt my head. But that last part about the multi-level 3-step bullshit detecting will come in handy sometime.

Posted by: goon at March 07, 2016 04:24 PM (gy5kE)

312 haha damnit "the former" in your sentence as relates to Tom Brady is "the integrity of football"

I done played myself.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 04:24 PM (xuouz)

313 235 Short version:

These bitches have Glacier Envy.

Posted by: zombie at March 07, 2016 04:11 PM (jBuUi)

---

Thanks for summing that up.

Posted by: SMFH at March 07, 2016 04:24 PM (rlfds)

314 Anyone else want Tarzan to toss Jane off that tree limb in that GEICO commercial?

Tarzan no like Gorilla poon.

Posted by: Tarzan at March 07, 2016 04:24 PM (39g3+)

315 ...this study is soooooo cooool...!!!eleventy111!!1!

Posted by: Bill Nye, science dimwit at March 07, 2016 04:24 PM (INxoa)

316 i think the REAL problem they are addressing is that ice "cores" sound just so much like glacier rapey actions that it has to stop!

Posted by: Waldo Trout at March 07, 2016 04:24 PM (M1MpJ)

317 I go to Hooters and drink Alaskan amber (brewed with glacier water) does that make me a bad person?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 07, 2016 04:24 PM (r65B3)

318 Moving Towards a Feminist Epistemology of Mathematics

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 07, 2016 04:25 PM (/D5Lf)

319 I'm studying glaciers, Dad! I am too important!!!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 07, 2016 04:25 PM (kTF2Z)

320 Buncha cwmnts, if you ask me.

Posted by: The Khumbu Icefall at March 07, 2016 04:25 PM (rznWS)

321 ABSTRACT : Can frigid women learn to do handys?

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 07, 2016 04:25 PM (0vdts)

322 ...the Democrats do not have a plan B....


Actually, I suspect they already have a plan to 'turn' Trump in the same way counter intell turns a foreign agent.

Posted by: Gordon Lastherder at March 07, 2016 04:25 PM (MIyiE)

323
Yeah she's so cold

She's so cold, she's so cold

She was born in an Artic zone . . .


Who would believe you were a beauty indeed
When the days get shorter and the nights get long
Lie awake when the rain comes
Nobody will know, when you're old
When you're old, nobody will know
that you was a beauty, a sweet sweet beauty
A sweet sweet beauty, but stone stone cold.....

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:25 PM (39g3+)

324 Can we sue them to get our money back? please.

Posted by: goon at March 07, 2016 04:25 PM (gy5kE)

325 On a glacier
In a valley
Writing bullshit on your dime

Lives a harpy
Academic
And her name is
Crazy-Time.

Posted by: zombie at March 07, 2016 04:26 PM (jBuUi)

326 Well, some glaciers are cracked, a

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at March 07, 2016 04:26 PM (0rmIs)

327 All that for a lousy $400,000? That seems like good value.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at March 07, 2016 04:26 PM (QdAXQ)

328 "a feminist deconstruction of parallel parking"

easy

"lanes" are a construct of the Napoleonic Code

i.e. imperialism

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:26 PM (tT9mZ)

329
306 Saw the guy's Twitter profile. He calls himself a Glacier Historian. His next probing question: maybe Oezi the Iceman is transgender; after all, not all of him was found.
Posted by: Wendy at March 07, 2016 04:23 PM (bpemY)

Pretty sure his junk was there. Something gnawed on his left ass cheek.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 07, 2016 04:26 PM (+HxkQ)

330 When I see shit like this, the "let it burn" theory gets more and more attractive. I might or might not survive a let it burn scenario. But, I can shoot a gun and cook my own food so I have a fighting chance. The people who "produce" work such as this would be worm food in the first 48 hours and it might just be worth it.

Posted by: DanInMN at March 07, 2016 04:27 PM (h5ffp)

331 There's nothing that quite states "research" as using three exclamation points in a row.

Sorry. ...in a row!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2016 04:27 PM (WOyz5)

332 "About a third of the way through my migraine started intensifying at which point I stopped reading." Pretty much ditto.

But I did read Ace's comments all the way through.

There are no words.

Posted by: RM at March 07, 2016 04:27 PM (U3LtS)

333 "Look, I have to tell you, except for (GeoSTI) because he went to school here and is a guy, that there are streets surrounding this campus that you do not cross and don't travel alone around here at night. This is not suburbia."

Posted by: GeoSTI at March 07, 2016 04:12 PM (0e/Wy) "

Yeah, we were told similar things at undergrad orientation, though I already knew as a Cleveland native. IIRC I think it was something to the effect of "one side of the bridge is It's A Wonderful Life, the other side is Black Hawk Down; decide on your own which of those sounds safer."

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 04:28 PM (4/i9Y)

334 I liked it better when crazy was laughed at and locked away, not given grants and prestigious positions at institutions of higher learning. Call me old fashioned if you must.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:28 PM (39g3+)

335 capitalist: I only want to pay for what I value.

socialist: I can't produce anything of value, but I wish to force everyone to pay for it anyway.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 07, 2016 04:28 PM (3epEl)

336 When I see shit like this, the "let it burn" theory gets more and more attractive. I might or might not survive a let it burn scenario. But, I can shoot a gun and cook my own food so I have a fighting chance. The people who "produce" work such as this would be worm food in the first 48 hours and it might just be worth it.



"Revolution in 96 Hours"

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 04:28 PM (eDmrZ)

337 4 My nuts are cold - where can I get a check.


Posted by: DaveA


How many you got. What gender do they identify as? We need a study.

Posted by: Science Bitches, I mean, Science, Bitches! at March 07, 2016 04:29 PM (QdAXQ)

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at March 07, 2016 04:29 PM (4KoRb)

339 infiltrate academia

propose all sorts of leftist bullshit

receive grant money

give grant money to colleagues doing valuable research

write fictitious "study" for the idiotic grant givers, and make it as stupid as possible

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:29 PM (tT9mZ)

340 292 Anyone else want Tarzan to toss Jane off that tree limb in that GEICO commercial?


---------------

Yes

You gotta do that right in my earaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Splat

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 07, 2016 04:29 PM (kTF2Z)

341 there are streets surrounding this campus that you do not cross and don't travel alone around here at night. This is not suburbia.

As a youngster heading to college I spent a day in Union Station in Chicago. This is not, as people from that area know, the best part of town. I got bored with the station and decided to take a walk. I opened the door, looked around, and decided I liked bored over Mad Max wasteland.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (39g3+)

342 This is more proof that the "here, vote for this person" is an exercise in futility.

Nearly a half century ago there were those on both sides of the aisle who would have mocked this sort of expenditure with glee - I can only imagine what W. Proxmire would've made of this - but today, no one on The Hill even contemplates negative commentary on spending.

The Republic is in dire straits indeed.

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (C9pBZ)

343 198 I'm surprised that there isn't a feminist approach to basic arithmetic and math -- concepts which surely were also the products of the "patriarchy." (Of course, now other commenters are going to tell me that there is such as thing as feminist math, and I'll need to drink a fifth of whiskey to make the pain go away).
Posted by: Revenant at March 07, 2016 04:04 PM (y64uP)


Someone did make a feminist programming language, I think. It was a well-executed parody, but some SJWs at GitHub decided it was NOT FUNNY AND VERY INAPPROPRIATE and pulled it.

Posted by: Splunge at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (iMxBJ)

344 Actually, I suspect they already have a plan to 'turn' Trump in the same way counter intell turns a foreign agent.
Posted by: Gordon Lastherder at March 07, 2016 04:25 PM (MIyiE)

Is Trump a Clinton plant, who agreed in a secret meeting with Bill Clinton this summer that everyone knows about to ruin the GOP and assure her election? Or is he a vain blowhard who really did decide on his own to run but is now poised to be turned, like a cheap spy?

Stay tuned at AOSHQ, official Cruz Control headquarters, to find out what the horde decides! He can't possibly mean what he says! That's actually not possible!

There's a word for how not possible it is!

It's impossible!

Stay tuned!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (xuouz)

345 >>That report linked flooding from a glacial lake with an increase of sexually transmitted infections in women.


I'm liking the name 'Moland Spring' more and more.

Posted by: Mr. Pitt at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (440T9)

346 There's nothing that quite states "research" as using three exclamation points in a row.

Sorry. ...in a row!!!




WHO WAS ROW!!!???

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (eDmrZ)

347 115 II Why feminist glaciology?

Because we are here not just to destroy you but to humiliate you. It must be a final, complete victory over God, man, free will, and the very joy that animates the human soul. For that victory to be complete you must not simply be destroyed, but choose that destruction of your own volition. We will corrupt your institutions, your universities, we will turn your children against you, we will unmake and defile the very words you speak until your fellow men and women are specters, forms you can see but not touch or converse with. We will pollute your lives until you embrace the cleansing pain of fire as preferable to the grayness of the world we make. We will make death as sacred as you have made life, and life as foul to you as death.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 03:51 PM (xuouz)
---------------
Heh.
Good answer!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (T/5A0)

348 "Patriarchal Dominance and Parallel Parking: How Inserting a Vehicle Into
a Parking Slot is Akin to Rape, and Why Women are Naturally Adverse to
It"

I laughed. I denounce myself.

Thinking here of the infamous video of Eleanor Holmes Norton repeatedly trying and failing to master the abstruse geometric intricacies of the angled parking space.

Then finally bashing her car into the vehicle parked in the next spot, and trotting away without leaving a note or making a call. (For those of us unfortunate enough to be in the serf class, that's a textbook hit-and-run charge.)

Our _nomenklatura_ literally can't park a goddamn car and yet they arrogate unto themselves enormous power to run the smallest details of the lives of all of the rest of us.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (noWW6)

349 Ace was en fuego until the melting ice got to him.

Posted by: Crabby cupcake at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (vansE)

350 I think I know what the "Great Filter" from the Drake Equation is now...

And we're getting filtered.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (9krrF)

351 ♪ I talk to the glaciers
But they don't listen to me ♫

Posted by: clint eastwood painting his wagon... red with blood at March 07, 2016 04:31 PM (WOyz5)

352 Truthfully, at their point on the continuum, they are shoulder-to-shoulder with the medieval retros who wasted megadynes of brain power on whether angels defecated. And yet they see themselves as the antidote to religious myth.
Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (5o5ek)


-------------------


Feminist science: Hysterical.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2016 04:31 PM (onb6N)

353 @333Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 04:28 PM (4/i9Y)

...ditto -- grew up nearby campus and knew the neighborhoods really well.

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 04:31 PM (INxoa)

354 I wonder if the emperor's new clothes will offer protection from the cold of the glaciers.

Posted by: Splunge at March 07, 2016 04:31 PM (iMxBJ)

355 torque

you didn't build that car

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:31 PM (tT9mZ)

356 I'll bet you a pair of Size 12 gloves that this would never happen at Trump University!

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at March 07, 2016 04:31 PM (4KoRb)

357 @123: "Leftists politicize everything. Everything."

The Right lets them.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 07, 2016 04:31 PM (rznWS)

358 This reminded me, anyone ever have Glacier Bay beer? Just looked it up made in Virginia in the 80 -90's, worst swill maybe I've ever had.

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 04:17 PM (fizMZ)


There are also Glacier Bay brand toilets. Maybe there's a connection...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2016 04:32 PM (/i7Ua)

359 It's. Just. Fucking. Ice. We need to bring back the stocks and large crowds throwing rotten cabbage.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 04:32 PM (0mRoj)

360 I can only imagine what W. Proxmire would've made of this

And he was a Democrat. That tells you how far downhill they've gone, let alone the Republicans.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:32 PM (39g3+)

361 "When I was there (as a commuter), it was pretty different. Course Murray Hill and the inhabitants therein kind of kept the riff-raff on their heels a bit more........

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 04:22 PM (INxoa) "

I think Murray Hill is still a bit safer than the surrounding areas because the Italians see to it, though certainly not as 'hands-on' as back in the day. From what my folks tell me, the Cleveland Mafia hasn't been the same since Scalish died.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 04:32 PM (4/i9Y)

362 I see this and think "what is the agenda?" - some ideas:

a. Cover up non-science knowledge.
b. Discount all existing glacier knowledge as the patriarchy so there's a need for more scholarship (by the authors, 'natch).
c. Get moar scholarships and grants for WOMEN to study glaciers.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 04:33 PM (NOIQH)

363 Someone did make a feminist programming language, I think. It was a well-executed parody, but some SJWs at GitHub decided it was NOT FUNNY AND VERY INAPPROPRIATE and pulled it.

Posted by: Splunge at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM (iMxBJ)


________________________________________

The following is not parody:

ARE YOU READY FOR A FEMINIST PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE?

We need to do away with functional-centric, bugphobic attitudes in programming.


http://tinyurl.com/okpuy3q

Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 04:33 PM (rsudF)

364 352 Truthfully, at their point on the continuum, they are shoulder-to-shoulder with the medieval retros who wasted megadynes of brain power on whether angels defecated. And yet they see themselves as the antidote to religious myth.
Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 04:07 PM (5o5ek)


-------------------


Feminist science: Hysterical.
Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2016 04:31 PM (onb6N)

Yup. And they yell and scream that they aren't taken seriously because patriarchy. News flash, cupcakes, you aren't taken seriously because you're ridiculous.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 04:33 PM (0mRoj)

365 This must be an elaborate hoax. I know we live in stupid times but world is not this stupid (yet).

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at March 07, 2016 04:33 PM (1BQGO)

366 At WZ


Every Dot On This Map Represents A House Where Refugees Are Living In Germany


Buh bye Germany

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 07, 2016 04:33 PM (/D5Lf)

367 Anyone read Theo Spark? He usually has hot women, plane porn, and some conservative political stuff.

I saw this post and it struck me funny:
http://tinyurl.com/znqhpq6

So, the poster's theory is this:
1) The Islamists say that there never was a temple mount.
2) If true, this also discredits Christian theology.
3) Because left leaning Christians do not want to acknowledge that Islamsists are fantasists, they come close to disproving their own faith.

That seems simple enough, but the poster also worked what seemed to me to be some anti-catholic/christian in general stuff in there that made it tough for me to initially figure out what the hell he was trying to say.

Am I reading this right, or reading too much into it? Or not enough?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 07, 2016 04:34 PM (iHjB5)

368 ...the Cleveland Mafia hasn't been the same since Scalish died.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 04:32 PM (4/i9Y)

...HEH...!...among others!

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 04:34 PM (INxoa)

369 Ghost of kari, your optimism is heartening. I don't know what it is about this crypto-academic pseudo-knowledge, but whenever I read something like this that uses the word "epistemological" repeatedly, it makes me want to give up on humanity.

Maybe it's the waste of it -- the thought of lives wasted spinning sophistry, just so others can burn through several of their few precious hours alive reading it, because it was assigned reading.

Posted by: Pastafarian at March 07, 2016 04:34 PM (LqrRo)

370 "...ditto -- grew up nearby campus and knew the neighborhoods really well.

Posted by: billygoat at March 07, 2016 04:31 PM (INxoa) "

It was always easy to see the far-off transplants, starting to bundle up in October. I'd always tease them a bit. "This your first winter? That's adorable."

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 07, 2016 04:35 PM (4/i9Y)

371 : Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 07, 2016 04:30 PM

No, I'm not speculating on a conspiracy theory. I'm talking about the psychology of redirecting an individual's principles or loyalty.

Rubio might be one example.


Or just give Trump the Newt Gingrich treatment. Or Bork'm.

Posted by: Gordon Lastherder at March 07, 2016 04:35 PM (MIyiE)

372 "Mark Carey specializes in environmental history (whatever the fuck that is) and the history of science. (again, WTF). He earned his Ph.D. in history from..."

Sounds like someone wanted to to sit at the Science table in the lunchroom but couldn't handle the coursework.

Posted by: Azathoth at March 07, 2016 04:35 PM (oHWN4)

373 The Academia Scam.

Please the agenda of the overlords, they will fund you.

And you please them by pushing lefty nonsense.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 04:35 PM (oVJmc)

374 This must be an elaborate hoax. I know we live in stupid times but world is not this stupid (yet).
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at March 07, 2016 04:33 PM (1BQGO)

*****

Objection. Assumes facts most definitely not in evidence.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 07, 2016 04:35 PM (jpJUu)

375 The Right lets them.

The problem for us is a simple morality issue. The only answer to stop this is sheer violence. A punch in the face, a shove down the stairs, beating them with a rubber hose. When that womyn's studies prof screams in your face about the patriarchy and penis culture, she needs to be knocked on her well-padded hind end.

But for us, the provocation and annoyance, the damage to society -- the wrong being committed -- does not rise to violent response. Its not bad enough for us to use violence over, because that's how our system of morals and principles is constructed.

And as Ra's Al-ghul said... criminals thrive on the indulgence of society. He wasn't wrong, but his solution was worse.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:35 PM (39g3+)

376 It actually bothers me a little that I can read and understand academic gobbletygook. I knew immediately what those precious little darlings were getting at. Color me thoroughly spooked.

I blame my childhood fascination with the works of Lewis Carroll:

"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings."

Posted by: troyriser at March 07, 2016 04:35 PM (UWlp+)

377 How does one go about getting one of these grants? I'll gladly write a bunch of nonsensical bullshit for 400 large.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 04:36 PM (0mRoj)

378 Who approves these grants? How can we motivate them to take an interest in actually reading the proposals? Got to remember this the next time a lib claims science is free of corruption.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 07, 2016 04:36 PM (3epEl)

379 The following is not parody:
ARE YOU READY FOR A FEMINIST PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE?
Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 04:33 PM (rsudF)


The writings of the one feminist quoted aren't, I guess. But the C Plus Equality project is exactly the one I mentioned, that got kicked off of GitHub. Glad to see some of it preserved. Stuff like this makes me laugh:

"All functions and procedures are now called lobbying. All lobbying must be run at the right level of privilege. Before returning anything they must check their privilege. "

Posted by: Splunge at March 07, 2016 04:37 PM (iMxBJ)

380 this is just a redistribution scheme so more funding can go toward "progressive" activists in the humanities

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:37 PM (tT9mZ)

381 At this point, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Water at March 07, 2016 04:37 PM (0vdts)

382 The guy who made the @DeepDrumpf tweetbot should get in on that sweet grant money. http://tinyurl.com/zo7n3ke

Posted by: no good deed at March 07, 2016 04:37 PM (GgxVX)

383 I know we live in stupid times but world is not this stupid (yet). "

Wanna bet?

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 07, 2016 04:37 PM (C9pBZ)

384 I know we live in stupid times but world is not this stupid

No, you're right its not that stupid.

Its stupider.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:37 PM (39g3+)

385 365 This must be an elaborate hoax. I know we live in stupid times but world is not this stupid (yet).
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at March 07, 2016 04:33 PM (1BQGO)

ALWAYS bet on stupid.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 07, 2016 04:38 PM (iHjB5)

386 "Who approves these grants?"

my guess:

a program officer at NSF, who acts on the advisement of a faculty committee composed of people selected by the program officer

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:38 PM (tT9mZ)

387 this is just a redistribution scheme so more funding can go toward "progressive" activists in the humanities

Yes.

And it normalizes propaganda as 'truth.'

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 04:38 PM (oVJmc)

388 >>We need to do away with functional-centric, bugphobic attitudes in programming.



IIRC, the feminist who wrote it doesn't actually write code, but like these guys, critiques it and demands that the science/code be done according to *her* liking.



Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 04:38 PM (NOIQH)

389 Seems like a good post to ask a stupid question. What is "gendered science?" Is it a critique of a male-dominated profession, or somehow putting "genders" onto scientific arguments (like glaciers being female or male representations), or something else altogether?

Posted by: Crump/Truz at March 07, 2016 04:39 PM (8EJen)

390 " People actually stay well away from ice -- ice is death"

They really take fear of ice too far in Europe though. Just try to get a proper amount of ice for your G &T in London.

"Excuse me, do you have more than one ice cube on the premises? Could I have one or better yet, two more in my drink? I like my mixed drinks cold, yes, we Yanks are funny that way..."

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 07, 2016 04:39 PM (u0lmX)

391 We never have enough money for science, and that is mostly because the money we have for science gets siphoned off to these sorts of non-science bullshit thing.

It's like the infrastructure issue the democrats are always whining about. we have plenty of money to build or re-build infrastructure. What we don't have is enough money to build the infrastructure AND service all the bullshit studies, public meetings, endless delays, environmental nutbaggery, etc.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at March 07, 2016 04:39 PM (dEwvU)

392 The authors don't science, they 'critical theory' science.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 04:39 PM (oVJmc)

393 I'm not so sure that this isn't a very cleverly done parody. What better way to troll the academic shit-for-brains than to produce a parody like this, and get them to fund it, too?


Go through the whole rigmarole, and then drop the shoe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2016 04:40 PM (/i7Ua)

394 Watching FNC: Did you know that Rubio won PR? Damn! He's a force to be reckoned with.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2016 04:40 PM (onb6N)

395 And it normalizes propaganda as 'truth.'

Right. By giving grants to, publishing, and supporting this nonsense, it normalizes and establishes nonsense. The process gives it credence and authority: it can't be stupid and wrong like you say: "They have a department of Feminist Glacial Studies at U of O, they wouldn't do that if it was all BS like you say."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:40 PM (39g3+)

396 "All functions and procedures are now called lobbying. All lobbying must be run at the right level of privilege. Before returning anything they must check their privilege. "

Posted by: Splunge at March 07, 2016 04:37 PM (iMxBJ)


____________________________________

Lol.

The code itself may be a joke, but some dim bulbs embraced it with everything they had. The following hoax is still one of my favorites:

Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity

Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 04:41 PM (rsudF)

397 The only thing that feminism produces is cow pies.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 07, 2016 04:41 PM (AroJD)

398 We are still on science? I mean I like science well enough but I had my fill in College and Dental School.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 07, 2016 04:42 PM (mw8Dm)

399 397 The only thing that feminism produces is cow pies.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 07, 2016 04:41 PM (AroJD)

And destruction. Lots and lots of destruction.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 04:42 PM (0mRoj)

400 The only answer to stop this is sheer violence.
-----------------------

This cancer thrives on money and attention. Deny it both.

Abolish the National Endowment for the Arts and whoever else supplies these cells. Then ignore their death-screams.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 04:42 PM (5o5ek)

401 Saw this absolute load of crap earlier today.

Ace, you administered a well-deserved evisceration...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 07, 2016 04:42 PM (wtvvX)

402 I know we live in stupid times but world is not this stupid
-----


http://tinyurl.com/zvwkqew


Youtube. Dude is pretty funny.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 07, 2016 04:42 PM (/D5Lf)

403 389 Seems like a good post to ask a stupid question. What is "gendered science?"
Posted by: Crump/Truz at March 07, 2016 04:39 PM (8EJen)


I've wondered that too. It sounds a little like "real science makes our girl brains hurt so we hate it and it must be bigoted somehow." That would be an incredibly patronizing and childish message, but I would not put it past these people to be so puerile.

Posted by: Splunge at March 07, 2016 04:42 PM (iMxBJ)

404 Men do dumb stuff too. And when men are in charge doing dumb stuff, people tend to die. But its the same way as in relationships: men hurt your body. Women hurt your soul.

And women get away with it grinning and supported by her friends and family. Men get jailed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:42 PM (39g3+)

405 393 I'm not so sure that this isn't a very cleverly done parody. What better way to troll the academic shit-for-brains than to produce a parody like this, and get them to fund it, too?


Go through the whole rigmarole, and then drop the shoe.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2016 04:40 PM (/i7Ua)


-------------------


I see you haven't read too many professional scientific/medical journals lately.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2016 04:43 PM (onb6N)

406 Glaciers belong in the kitchen.

Making sammiches.


Posted by: San Andreas Fault at March 07, 2016 04:43 PM (maoCu)

407 It's like the infrastructure issue the democrats are always whining about. we have plenty of money to build or re-build infrastructure."

Indeed. The taxes gathered on "road use" would more than pay for roads - but not roads/bike paths/trails/streetcars/subway/light rail combined.

Funny that.

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 07, 2016 04:44 PM (C9pBZ)

408 This cancer thrives on money and attention. Deny it both.

The people who hand out the money and attention are in power, and will not be removed by our protestations and displeasure.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:44 PM (39g3+)

409 404 Men do dumb stuff too. And when men are in charge doing dumb stuff, people tend to die. But its the same way as in relationships: men hurt your body. Women hurt your soul.

*cough* Cecile Richards *cough*

Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 04:44 PM (0mRoj)

410 Ike Turner and Sean Connery pointed the way, but did we listen?

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at March 07, 2016 04:44 PM (wKcQA)

411 The people who hand out the money and attention are in power, and will not be removed by our protestations and displeasure.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:44 PM (39g3+)



... yet.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 07, 2016 04:44 PM (uURQL)

412 Have you seen those Scandi fjords?

HAWT

Posted by: San Andreas Fault at March 07, 2016 04:45 PM (maoCu)

413
By the way.....
Driscoll just linked Ace's classic essay on Kaboom! cereal over at Insty.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2016 04:45 PM (hQAYN)

414 Posted by: San Andreas Fault at March 07, 2016 04:43 PM (maoCu)

Aren't you a Strike Slip Fault? Stop beating your wife!!

Posted by: no good deed at March 07, 2016 04:45 PM (GgxVX)

415 Get a job, Cupcake.

Now let's talk about guns:

If I had it all to to over again I'd stick with my model 15, four speed loaders, an AR 15, a Remington 870, spend the rest on training, pay down my mortgage and lay off the stupid gun pundits.

Ace, you're the best!

Posted by: DM at March 07, 2016 04:45 PM (j/tOh)

416 Hey, we're multiplying!

I was told there would be no math on this thread.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 07, 2016 04:45 PM (YJmuy)

417 Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 04:33 PM (NOIQH)

You forgot:

(d) moar grants for women studying women obsessing over the lack of women studying glaciers.*

*no actual glaciers actually get studied

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet carries ACME Brand Trump-Stoppers! at March 07, 2016 04:45 PM (hLRSq)

418 When I lived in the DC area, one of my neighbors worked at HHS deciding where grant money was spent. She was a total lefty activist boomer who used to tell stories of all the protests she participated in while at Harvard. This is the type of person deciding to fund these crazy progressive money-wasting studies.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 04:45 PM (NOIQH)

419 OT Every Thread is a Gun Thread:

Georgia HB859, the Campus Carry Bill, passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee with no amendments this afternoon on a 5-3 vote. It'll now go to the Rules Committee to be scheduled for a floor vote. Assuming it passes there, it'll then go to Governor Deal.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 07, 2016 04:45 PM (8Y7+f)

420 A Glacier, a Mother Whale and Hillary Clinton walk into a br...

Posted by: garrett at March 07, 2016 04:45 PM (440T9)

421 As a professional geologist, I can assure you that glaciers have vaginas.

Posted by: TexasJew at March 07, 2016 04:46 PM (G1XE+)

422 409 404 Men do dumb stuff too. And when men are in charge doing dumb stuff, people tend to die. But its the same way as in relationships: men hurt your body. Women hurt your soul.

*cough* Cecile Richards *cough*

Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 04:44 PM (0mRoj)


__________________________________________

Rachel Carson

Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 04:46 PM (rsudF)

423 5 I like how it's a "Feminist framework for [whatever]" and the first author was still a guy.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 07, 2016 03:33 PM (KUaJL)

Don't be so sure.
Could be a guy.
Could be a guy changed to a gal.
Could be a gal changed to a guy.

Posted by: Caitlin Jenner at March 07, 2016 04:46 PM (SXU3d)

424 Is any more proof required that it is over and we should just nuke ourselves (maybe take Iran and NK with us just for fun)

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at March 07, 2016 04:46 PM (eJV7c)

425 consider

- there are these concepts of male and female
- we use these and other words like "his" and "her"
- words accumulate denotations and connotations
- these denotations and connotations have a history
- these histories have affected a variety of things, including, apparently, the fecking NSF
- to study gender is to study how these concepts and words have produced effects
- and to write about it for money

I don't have a problem with this

what I have a problem with is assuming this kind of study would have anything remotely valuable to say about glaciers themselves

which is what "glaciology" used to mean, before activists corrupted the NSF

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:47 PM (tT9mZ)

426 I see you haven't read too many professional scientific/medical journals lately.

Posted by: Soona at March 07, 2016 04:43 PM (onb6N)


No, not lately. But, you see, they have the style down pat. What better way to throw a monkey wrench into the whole corrupt fund-granting racket than to write a bullshit proposal, and get it funded?


Scam the scammers. If this does turn out to be an epic troll, the hilarity will be wonderful.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2016 04:47 PM (/i7Ua)

427 As a professional geologist,

Your job sounds gneiss. Don't take it for granite.

Posted by: no good deed at March 07, 2016 04:47 PM (GgxVX)

428 Almost all science is being fucked up by gender crap and the such.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 07, 2016 04:48 PM (mw8Dm)

429 A Glacier, a Mother Whale and Hillary Clinton walk into a bar...
...and the bartender says, "Get out! We don't serve ice holes here!"

Posted by: andycanuck at March 07, 2016 04:48 PM (WOyz5)

430 This seems appropriate to post here somehow.

Cyclists training in South Africa chased by ostrich.

It's labeled as "funny". Probably wouldn't be funny if the ostrich caught up with them, and I imagine that the cyclists were pedaling like hell to get away from it.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zj86j52

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 04:48 PM (w4NZ8)

431 It's like the infrastructure issue the democrats are always whining about. we have plenty of money to build or re-build infrastructure. What we don't have is enough money to build the infrastructure AND service all the bullshit studies, public meetings, endless delays, environmental nutbaggery, etc.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at March 07, 2016 04:39 PM (dEwvU)
-------------------------

This is why I want Prezident Trump to hire a dream team AND TAKE THEIR ADVICE.

Rick Perry: Secretary of Cutting Shit

Sarah Palin (yes): Secretary of Reducing the Departments of Education, Commerce, Energy, and Homeland Security to a Laptop and a Card Table

Ben Carson: Secretary of Fox in the Obamacare Henhouse

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 04:48 PM (5o5ek)

432 >>Rachel Carson

Margaret Sanger.
She never gets enough credit for inspiring Hitler on eugenics.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 04:48 PM (NOIQH)

433 Geologists. Humph. All they do is sit around getting stoned every day.

Posted by: dr sheldon cooper at March 07, 2016 04:49 PM (WOyz5)

434 By the time if I finished reading that post, all the glaciers were gone. Nothing left but feminine napkins. Oh, and crushed stones. (per Buzzfeed)

Posted by: mikeyslaw at March 07, 2016 04:49 PM (Wkdli)

435

It's a big-assed chunk of ice. There's a bunch of them where it's cold.

WTF else is there to know? This ain't rocket surgery.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 07, 2016 04:49 PM (LUgeY)

436 "one side of the bridge is It's A Wonderful Life, the other side is Black Hawk Down; decide on your own which of those sounds safer."

Funny thing is, campus police are based on the opposite side. Felt like I was most put in danger paying a parking ticket.

Posted by: GeoSTI at March 07, 2016 04:50 PM (0e/Wy)

437 I do love the Internet . You can find the answer to most any question. For whatever reason, I believe I was thinking about heaven and the people hopefully you will see again, I wondered what the number of people that have been born since the beginning of man. Of course a number of studies have been done and the consensus is ____.







110 billion.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 07, 2016 04:50 PM (DYDUy)

438 Dear Mr. Franklin,

We regret to inform you that the addressees listed on your package have refused delivery.

CONTENTS:
1 (One) Republic

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2016 04:50 PM (A/3fN)

439 A feminist glaciology framework for global environmental change research




And we're anti-science?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 07, 2016 04:51 PM (45oDG)

440 $400k for all of those words? Bargain.

Posted by: Weasel at March 07, 2016 04:51 PM (e3bId)

441 "Your job sounds gneiss. Don't take it for granite."

good try, but no shale

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:51 PM (tT9mZ)

442 So "colder than a witches tit in a brass bra doing push ups in the snow" IS real.

It's glacier science!

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at March 07, 2016 04:51 PM (X+nFp)

443 The Scientific Method was developed exactly to get away from this silly sort of shit.

ie. a politicized or religionocentric or corrupt interpretation of reality.


Anyone, and I mean, anyone who even entertains this complete nonsense is no scientist,

and they nee to lose their job. No ifs ands or buts.


You want DEVOlution?

Gentlemen, this is devolution manifest.



Posted by: naturalfake at March 07, 2016 04:51 PM (0cMkb)

444 @375: "The problem for us is a simple morality issue. The only answer to
stop this is sheer violence. A punch in the face, a shove down the
stairs, beating them with a rubber hose. When that womyn's studies prof
screams in your face about the patriarchy and penis culture, she needs
to be knocked on her well-padded hind end.



But for us, the provocation and annoyance, the damage to society --
the wrong being committed -- does not rise to violent response. Its not
bad enough for us to use violence over, because that's how our system
of morals and principles is constructed."

It's the Fulda Gap scenario. Until NATO's technology overwhelmed the Soviets, NATO only had two plans: (1) flee; (2) go nuclear. It was also why the Pact was willing to commit to "No First Use" - they didn't need anything beyond conventional arms to win.

In our context, the Right has limited itself to "flee". And so, by doing nothing, we lose everything. On the plus side, the Left will lose to Islam for the same reason. The Endarkenment continues apace.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 07, 2016 04:51 PM (rznWS)

445 I am pretty sure that each of the ice cubes I have chewed over the years that have broken my teeth were female.

Posted by: yobobbyb at March 07, 2016 04:52 PM (BKGXB)

446 It's not just that the world is stupid and that anything dreck with the world " feminist " in it seems to sell in academia.

When you're talking about the humanities, at least, the problem with coming up with an "original" topic when it comes to Shakespeare or the Napoleonic Wars or the plays of Euripides is that people have been writing about this things for centuries. Can you think of anything profound to say about Othello that wasn't said by someone else 200 years ago?

So at first these "scholars" started shoehorning the classics into Marxist/feminist/gay/minority perspectives. Then, when that well went dry, they decided that well, Western Civ sucks anyway as to go, so they dropped the dead white males in favor of "diversity." Now they're applying their silly perspectives to things like glaciers and probably to sidewalk cracks and bubble gum chewing as well.

They have gone deeply in debt in order to - say nothing.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 07, 2016 04:52 PM (u0lmX)

447 Fact of the matter is you don't get grant money now a days unless it is tied to minority or gender issues.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 07, 2016 04:52 PM (mw8Dm)

448 Nee! Nee! Nee!

Posted by: the commenters who say 'nee' at March 07, 2016 04:52 PM (WOyz5)

449 Poor Maria Sharapova! Hope she saved her money.

Posted by: Feminist Bruce With a Feminist Wang! at March 07, 2016 04:52 PM (iQIUe)

450 The arctic and antarctic ice caps definitely aren't feminists... because they both really love them some poles.

Ohhhhhh!

Posted by: Andrew Ice Clay at March 07, 2016 04:52 PM (H9MG5)

451 The people who hand out the money and attention are in power, and will not be removed by our protestations and displeasure.
------------------

That's why I hope Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are in the next administration. I made a funny (intentional, anyway) post about it above, but the serious version is something like Rand and Cruz depowering these people.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 04:52 PM (5o5ek)

452 wasn't it just this morning we were drinking coffee and goofing on glaciology vs gynecology? was that a dream?

Posted by: DanMan at March 07, 2016 04:53 PM (RusNE)

453 I am pretty sure that each of the ice cubes I have chewed over the years that have broken my teeth were female.
Posted by: yobobbyb at March 07, 2016 04:52 PM (BKGXB)

Then your doing it wrong. Didn't she ever mention that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 07, 2016 04:53 PM (mw8Dm)

454 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 04:48 PM (w4NZ

I think an Ostrich can exceed 40mph. So I don't think they could outrun it.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 07, 2016 04:53 PM (DYDUy)

455 Margaret Sanger
Rachel Carson
Cecile Richards

...didn't kill people. They killed souls of men who then went on to kill.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:54 PM (39g3+)

456 Dr Ray Stantz: Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of college! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 04:54 PM (oVJmc)

457 I searched the "Sage Journals" database where this "research" abstract was posted, for the word "gendered" out of a morbid curiosity.

At the bottom of the page: "Showing 10 of 28,637".

28,637 academic papers in this database, in which the word "gendered" was significant. "Waste" isn't the right word; this is decadence.

Posted by: Pastafarian at March 07, 2016 04:54 PM (LqrRo)

458 On the plus side, the Left will lose to Islam for the same reason. The Endarkenment continues apace.


Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 07, 2016 04:51 PM (rznWS)
--------------------------

Srsly, what do these people want? Are they going to continue until we're all sitting in our own shit and then say "Isn't this better now?"

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 04:54 PM (5o5ek)

459 Margaret Sanger
Rachel Carson
Cecile Richards

...didn't kill people. They killed souls of men who then went on to kill.


Well there is the question of all those aborted babies and brown folks who died from malaria, but still.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 07, 2016 04:55 PM (9krrF)

460 Well there goes time I'll never get back..... Seriously? I mean they seriously believe this shit?

Posted by: donna at March 07, 2016 04:55 PM (/dSsq)

461 What these sexually frustrated ladies need is a good hard him-a-layin'.

Posted by: zombie at March 07, 2016 04:55 PM (jBuUi)

462 Historically, waffles have been yet another insidious tool of the Patriarchy. BUT NO MORE, BABY!!!


Naked woman goes on rampage through Waffle House

http://tinyurl.com/huwwfc3

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 07, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)

463 What these sexually frustrated ladies need is a good hard him-a-layin'.

Sometimes that Alps.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 04:56 PM (oVJmc)

464 What I noted about the final comment was that the statements made could be applied to ANY science or any field

Posted by: Areth the fire starter at March 07, 2016 04:56 PM (64gGw)

465 I guess my tractor is part of the patriochy, it only plows things.

Posted by: Picric at March 07, 2016 04:56 PM (QnQ+g)

466 "Can you think of anything profound to say about Othello"

i'd respectfully suggest that profundity has little to do with how scholarly conversations in the humanities work

professors are rewarded for saying novel things, not profound things

"profound" sounds positively antique

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:56 PM (tT9mZ)

467

Whoever wasted our tax monies on this is on the same level as that gaggle of imbeciles who protested so mightily over the graduation card that contained the phrase, "Black hole" a few years back.

They need a good lashing. On PPV.

Make stupidity painful and they'll stop.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 07, 2016 04:57 PM (LUgeY)

468 What these sexually frustrated ladies need is a good hard him-a-layin'.



Sometimes that Alps.




They should listen to Rushmore.

Posted by: Mortimer at March 07, 2016 04:57 PM (maoCu)

469 The tragedy?

Even after Trump gets elected, all these people will still have jobs.

They are a metastacized cancer that can't be removed.

We are so boned.

Posted by: zombie at March 07, 2016 04:57 PM (jBuUi)

470
Naked woman goes on rampage through Waffle House


Aaaaagh! Don't click on the pic!

I think she's Klingon!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 04:58 PM (oVJmc)

471 What I noted about the final comment was that the statements made could be applied to ANY science or any field

Posted by: Areth the fire starter at March 07, 2016 04:56 PM (64gGw)
--------------------

I'm sure they've noticed, too. And I'm sure that lots of academic eyes are lighting up over it.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 04:58 PM (5o5ek)

472 110 billion.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 07, 2016 04:50 PM (DYDUy)


GFY

Posted by: Homo Erectus at March 07, 2016 04:58 PM (8ZskC)

473 455 Margaret Sanger
Rachel Carson
Cecile Richards

...didn't kill people. They killed souls of men who then went on to kill.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:54 PM (39g3+)


_____________________________________________

Fine. Belle Gunness.

Posted by: NotCoach at March 07, 2016 04:58 PM (rsudF)

474 I don't think they're studying Shakespeare much in colleges anymore. Dead, white European male. Enough said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 04:58 PM (w4NZ8)

475 What these sexually frustrated ladies need is a good hard him-a-layin'.

Sometimes that Alps.


Must be mountain time.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 07, 2016 04:58 PM (YJmuy)

476 When the ancient aliens read this crap . . .

"We gave you fire, metallurgy, the pyramids, gunpowder, the renaissance, E=MC2 for gosh sakes! And this is what you did what that?"

*shakes heads sadly* *slumps dejectedly into pod*

"Kang! Kodos! Burn it with fire! Nuke the entire planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2016 04:58 PM (JO9+V)

477 Look at pajama prof resume/cv. Seventeen pages and about 98% is dedicated toward the pursuit and dissemination of worthless information. I still think this is a hoax, nobody could be that worthless. If not a hoax, if it weren't for academia this guy would be slinging fries at at McD's

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at March 07, 2016 04:58 PM (1BQGO)

478 They are a metastacized cancer that can't be removed.

Cancer kills its host.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 07, 2016 04:59 PM (uURQL)

479 "28,637 academic papers"

and that number will rise because those papers are rewarded as part of a professional tenure system

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 04:59 PM (tT9mZ)

480 Can you think of anything profound to say about Othello that wasn't said by someone else 200 years ago?

Well yeah, that's the fatal flaw of the PhD system: after a while there's nothing rational, true, or beneficial to say about a given topic so requiring something truly new eventually runs the well dry and stupid, crazy crap starts coming out. Abraham Lincoln was a woman! Napoleon was left handed and epileptic! Jesus was homosexual! On and on.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 04:59 PM (39g3+)

481 This is no more stupid than the Agriculture Department doing Gay Outreach.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pb7c4sq

Oh yes, there is plenty to be cut from the federal budget.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 05:00 PM (oVJmc)

482 Posted by: Homo Erectus

Bite me, old man!

Posted by: zombie Dennis Erectus at March 07, 2016 05:00 PM (YJmuy)

483 28,637 academic papers in this database, in which the word "gendered" was significant. "Waste" isn't the right word; this is decadence.



At 400k per paper that is 11 point 2 times ten to the ninth. Probably a meaningless calculation.

Posted by: Gordon Lastherder at March 07, 2016 05:00 PM (MIyiE)

484 469
The tragedy?


Even after Trump gets elected, all these people will still have jobs.

They are a metastacized cancer that can't be removed.


We are so boned.

Posted by: zombie



yep.

Only Math can save us now.

Posted by: Mortimer at March 07, 2016 05:00 PM (maoCu)

485 if you have kids

send them to colleges that teach Shakespeare

vote with your feet

Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 05:00 PM (tT9mZ)

486 Srsly, what do these people want? Are they going to continue until we're all sitting in our own shit and then say "Isn't this better now?"

Nah. They'll complain our shit smells less and is more comfy.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 07, 2016 05:01 PM (9krrF)

487 Is it safe to assume that, in academia, there are people sitting around, high as fuck, trying to come up with shit to write papers about, knowing that even the most inane, ridiculous shit will probably get a grant?

Dude, how about we write a paper on the migratory habits of the drunk female, both pre-taco bell and post-taco bell drunk-food-binge. Our angle could be the varying possibility of coitus interuptus via foodus eruptus.


Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 07, 2016 05:01 PM (2PHKP)

488 If this is all true, then the berg that took out the Titanic was one murderous bitch.

Posted by: yobobbyb at March 07, 2016 05:01 PM (BKGXB)

489 "Rick Perry: Secretary of Cutting Shit"

Will Rick remember which departments he is supposed to cut?

Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2016 05:01 PM (noWW6)

490 yep.

Only Math can save us now.


...and I'll look down and whisper, "No."

Posted by: Math, the Iron Law at March 07, 2016 05:02 PM (9krrF)

491 June is Pride Month, National Homeownership Month: USDA Brings Homeownership Assistance to Rural LGBT Communities

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hs6y3ly

whitehouse.gov

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 05:02 PM (oVJmc)

492 477 Look at pajama prof resume/cv. Seventeen pages and about 98% is dedicated toward the pursuit and dissemination of worthless information. I still think this is a hoax, nobody could be that worthless. If not a hoax, if it weren't for academia this guy would be slinging fries at at McD's
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at March 07, 2016 04:58 PM (1BQGO)

Well, yes. This is the wages of a successful, but unconfident culture. If our culture was not successful, these idiots would not have time or money to dream up this drek. If our culture was confident, no one would take them seriously.

I think an update should be made to the old Chinese curse: "May you live in stupid times."

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 07, 2016 05:02 PM (iHjB5)

493 They are a metastacized cancer that can't be removed.
----------------------------

Funny, I called them a cancer a coupla dozen posts above.

But I think they can be gotten rid of. The thing is, when you deny them, they scream for a bit, and then they wilt. How well do you think these people would do after four years of deprivation? After eight?

Someone at some university did this recently. Just ignored the Black Lives Matter babies. They went away.

What do you think of Rand Paul and Ted Cruz in a Trump administration? Dead-ender libertarians with nothing to lose.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 05:03 PM (5o5ek)

494 I think an update should be made to the old Chinese curse: "May you live in stupid times."


And be noticed by the rage mob?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 07, 2016 05:03 PM (YJmuy)

495 481 This is no more stupid than the Agriculture Department doing Gay Outreach.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pb7c4sq

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel


Are you seriously suggesting that our civilization has sufficient numbers of flamboyantly homosexual farmers? HATE SEPEECH

Posted by: zombie at March 07, 2016 05:03 PM (jBuUi)

496 The tragedy?

Even after Trump gets elected, all these people will still have jobs.

They are a metastacized cancer that can't be removed.

We are so boned.

Posted by: zombie


yep.

Only Math can save us now.




Burn baby burn!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2016 05:03 PM (dLr9j)

497 "Rick Perry: Secretary of Cutting Shit"

Will Rick remember which departments he is supposed to cut?


Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2016 05:01 PM (noWW6)

"Five!"
"No, Three!"

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2016 05:03 PM (JO9+V)

498 Sometimes that Alps.

Sherpa, that's easy for you to say.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 05:03 PM (39g3+)

499 Is it safe to assume that, in academia, there are people sitting around, high as fuck, trying to come up with shit to write papers about, knowing that even the most inane, ridiculous shit will probably get a grant?

Grant writing is an art, but primarily a racket. Honestly, bilking the system is a job.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 05:03 PM (oVJmc)

500 Boy, and I thought Star Trek the Next Generation was full of techno-babble.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 07, 2016 05:04 PM (6n332)

501
Are you seriously suggesting that our civilization has sufficient numbers of flamboyantly homosexual farmers? HATE SEPEECH


Priscilla, Queen of the Prarie

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 05:04 PM (oVJmc)

502 Will Rick remember which departments he is supposed to cut?


Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2016 05:01 PM (noWW6)
-------------------

No, he'll forget, so he'll just cut 'em all for good measure.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 05:04 PM (5o5ek)

503 489 "Rick Perry: Secretary of Cutting Shit"

Will Rick remember which departments he is supposed to cut?
Posted by: torquewrench at March 07, 2016 05:01 PM (noWW6)

Should be pretty easy for him: all of them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 07, 2016 05:04 PM (iHjB5)

504 OT, but Kasich.

Oof.

https://t.co/vGzrc5bTNR

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 07, 2016 05:06 PM (8PbKi)

505 I still think this is a hoax, nobody could be that worthless.
-------------------

Google up Melissa Click's resume. It's not a hoax.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 05:06 PM (5o5ek)

506 Bloomberg is out! Bloomberg is out!

Posted by: Mortimer at March 07, 2016 05:06 PM (maoCu)

507 And they can't believe the Bible cuz it's so 'out there'.

Posted by: Corona at March 07, 2016 05:07 PM (ragzU)

508 OT, but Kasich.

Oof.


I'm tellin ya, Kasich is a nut.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 05:08 PM (oVJmc)

509 If we split off now and actually did science, we could be technologically light years ahead of these dopes in like 20 months.

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at March 07, 2016 05:08 PM (sqs5K)

510 504 OT, but Kasich.

Oof.

https://t.co/vGzrc5bTNR
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 07, 2016 05:06 PM (8PbKi)

Never go full retard.

Posted by: Kirk Lazarus at March 07, 2016 05:08 PM (iHjB5)

511 And they can't believe the Bible cuz it's so 'out there'.


Posted by: Corona at March 07, 2016 05:07 PM (ragzU)
-------------------------

Here's the Great Minds confluence of the day, cuz I said (wordier)

at their point on the continuum, they are shoulder-to-shoulder with the medieval retros who wasted megadynes of brain power on whether angels defecated. And yet they see themselves as the antidote to religious myth.


So, yeah, we need a new thread.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 05:08 PM (5o5ek)

512 and Homeland Security to a Laptop and a Card Table

Make them buy a tablet and we can cut the card table too.

Posted by: DaveA at March 07, 2016 05:09 PM (DL2i+)

513 Only a fundamental change at the heart of each can stop this and turn it around. Only something transformative in the soul.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 07, 2016 05:10 PM (39g3+)

514 485 if you have kids

send them to colleges that teach Shakespeare

vote with your feet
Posted by: Feh at March 07, 2016 05:00 PM (tT9mZ)

I used to know a lawyer who went to Thomas Aquinas College in Southern Cali for his BA. No majors - just the Great Books program for everyone. He said he loved it - it really taught him how to reason and debate.

A Great Books program is not practical in the sense that a STEM major is, but it's no more impractical than this stupid trendy crap and at least you learn how to think and you read classics instead of dreck.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 07, 2016 05:10 PM (u0lmX)

515 June is Pride Month, National Homeownership Month: USDA Brings Homeownership Assistance to Rural LGBT Communities

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hs6y3ly

whitehouse.gov
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 05:02 PM (oVJmc)


Bizarro World again


Ashlee Davis is the Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights at the U.S. Department of Agriculture.



Secretary for Civil Rights at Agriculture? Wow, we really do have commissars running this country. Into the ground.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 07, 2016 05:10 PM (45oDG)

516 >>Dude, how about we write a paper on the migratory habits of the drunk
female, both pre-taco bell and post-taco bell drunk-food-binge. Our
angle could be the varying possibility of coitus interuptus via foodus
eruptus.


You forgot the patriarchy. There's gotta be a raping, man-hating hook in there somewhere...

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 05:10 PM (NOIQH)

517 Just finished reading a long post on "Unified Field Theory of Madness" dunno if i found the link from here or what.

Perfectly explains their epistemology.

Just. .. madness.

Posted by: Sugar Plum Fairy #176-671 at March 07, 2016 05:11 PM (hnCis)

518 "OBJECT OF KNOWLEDGE, DEAD AHEAD!

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 07, 2016 05:12 PM (hLHwu)

519 Bleah, should I watch Special Report? I've been going on a news boycott because it's so depressing.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 05:12 PM (5o5ek)

520 Even after Trump gets elected, all these people will still have jobs.

A little GOP House belt tightening might go a long way.

What? It could happen.

Posted by: DaveA at March 07, 2016 05:13 PM (DL2i+)

521 516 >>Dude, how about we write a paper on the migratory habits of the drunk
female, both pre-taco bell and post-taco bell drunk-food-binge. Our
angle could be the varying possibility of coitus interuptus via foodus
eruptus.


You forgot the patriarchy. There's gotta be a raping, man-hating hook in there somewhere...
Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 05:10 PM (NOIQH)

Because of its phallic nature, eating a burrito is a sign of internalizing the inevitability of her being raped, because patriarchy.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 05:13 PM (0mRoj)

522 Dude, how about we write a paper on the migratory habits of the drunk female, both pre-taco bell and post-taco bell drunk-food-binge.

The patriarchy raped by digestive tract!

Posted by: Ring of Fire at March 07, 2016 05:13 PM (39g3+)

523 SMOD where are you when we need you?

Posted by: the morigu at March 07, 2016 05:14 PM (X4/8S)

524 Epistemology. Isn't that when the Ob-Gyn sews up the little tear after a vaginal birth?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2016 05:14 PM (JO9+V)

525 OT - if you are Cruz right now do you want the endorsement of an establishment Senator. On one hand, signal to Rubio. On the other, its the establishment.

Posted by: SH at March 07, 2016 05:15 PM (gmeXX)

526 >>Bleah, should I watch Special Report? I've been going on a news boycott because it's so depressing.


Depends - have you had enough puking for the day?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 05:15 PM (NOIQH)

527 What's this shit about me being "gender neutral"? Ice is all man, baby!

Posted by: Vanilla Ice at March 07, 2016 05:15 PM (SiyyF)

528 Rural LGBT Communities

I'm sorry; That sounds like a stupid term as if they're talking about bird colonies or communes People live in communities, Some may be rural, Some may be LGBT, but the fact it has to be termed "Rural LGBT communities" is ridiculous.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 05:17 PM (w4NZ8)

529

But the 'ice is just ice' conceptualization contrasts sharply with conclusions by researchers such as Cruikshank (2005), who asks if glaciers listen...


I bet they listen to a cool radio station.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 07, 2016 05:17 PM (LUgeY)

530 A little GOP House belt tightening might go a long way.

What? It could happen.


Posted by: DaveA at March 07, 2016 05:13 PM (DL2i+)
----------------------

I prefer to believe this. I really do. The fucking Berlin Wall fell, George Washington wasted the Brits after crossing the Delaware, Reagan told the Air Traffic Controllers Union to get lost.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 05:18 PM (5o5ek)

531 I prefer to believe this. I really do.

All of those things are far more plausible than a politician giving up any power.

Posted by: Ring of Fire at March 07, 2016 05:19 PM (39g3+)

532 And this is why a lot of conservatives get labeled as anti-intellectual. It's not because we don't think real science and real knowledge is important. It's because crud like this keeps getting produced and we call it crud. Maybe our betters should actually police themselves.

Posted by: WOPR at March 07, 2016 05:20 PM (LTDSy)

533 Depends - have you had enough puking for the day?


Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 05:15 PM (NOIQH)
--------------------

All-ritey then. Netflix it is.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 05:21 PM (5o5ek)

534 >>but the fact it has to be termed "Rural LGBT communities" is ridiculous.

Yes, when you consider that gay/lesbians make up only 3-4% of the population (not 10%, their claim based on Kinsey, IIRC) + transgender <1%.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 05:21 PM (NOIQH)

535
Can't get past the part about this being utter bullshit, thus deserving the point, laugh and shake the head reaction.

Loudly and repeatedly.

Really unsure how you managed to write on this without breaking down into uncontrollable laughter, Ace.

Kudos on that.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 07, 2016 05:21 PM (P/8aq)

536 Maybe our betters should actually police themselves.
Posted by: WOPR

Protecting our phony-balony jobs is more important.

Posted by: William J. Le Petomane at March 07, 2016 05:22 PM (SiyyF)

537 Rural LGBT Communities

I'm sorry; That sounds like a stupid term as if they're talking about bird colonies or communes People live in communities, Some may be rural, Some may be LGBT, but the fact it has to be termed "Rural LGBT communities" is ridiculous.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 05:17 PM (w4NZ



So what you're saying is this is just another colossal waste of tax payer money for another phony lefty cause and probably overrun with a bunch lefty gay activists using this to collect a huge salary to boot.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 07, 2016 05:23 PM (45oDG)

538 All of those things are far more plausible than a politician giving up any power.
-------------------------

Yeah, that's why I say we need some libertarian dead-enders in the next administration. People who love to kill parasites.

Posted by: iforgot at March 07, 2016 05:24 PM (5o5ek)

539 Since a lot of legal language sounds rather obfuscatory to people not in the field, I think you'd be very good at writing grant proposals, Insomniac, but the downside is in order for it to be approved you'd probably have to get a sex change operation. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 05:24 PM (w4NZ8)

540 If only a field existed to critique bad science and call it unethical.

Such a field would probably link with this shit and purge nonbelievers.

Posted by: tsrblke rogue bioethicist (Tablet) at March 07, 2016 05:25 PM (a8eFL)

541 Rural LGBT Communities

They watched Brokeback Mountain and were moved.

Posted by: no good deed at March 07, 2016 05:26 PM (GgxVX)

542 But the glibness -- let me just snatch this from here, that from there -- is exactly the same.

"snatch" ... talking about a feminist paper. Such male chauvinist pig hostility!

Meanwhile,I wonder why guys (ostensibly) wrote this paper and wouldn't let the women handle the subject of glacier gashes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 07, 2016 05:26 PM (zc3Db)

543 539 Since a lot of legal language sounds rather obfuscatory to people not in the field, I think you'd be very good at writing grant proposals, Insomniac, but the downside is in order for it to be approved you'd probably have to get a sex change operation. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 05:24 PM (w4NZ


Can't I just tuck?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 05:27 PM (0mRoj)

544 Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 07, 2016 05:23 PM (45oDG)

Well, actually, that was what you said, :^) but I agree with you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 05:27 PM (w4NZ8)

545 This all has to be related to those participation trophies somehow.

Posted by: Splunge at March 07, 2016 05:27 PM (iMxBJ)

546 So... someone was called an "ice queen" and it snowballed (haha) to this? She did a little research, discovered glaciers referenced as "she" or were named after women, and hence this chilling rant?

Posted by: Elsa82 at March 07, 2016 05:27 PM (FxLXV)

547 Eagles trade Koko Alonso and Biron Maxwell to Miami Dolphins for draft picks

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 05:27 PM (fizMZ)

548 So what you're saying is this is just another colossal waste of tax payer money for another phony lefty cause and probably overrun with a bunch lefty gay activists using this to collect a huge salary to boot.

And using it to funnel money to fellow travellers.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 05:27 PM (oVJmc)

549 They watched Brokeback Mountain and were moved.
Posted by: no good deed

It's best to move around FREQUENTLY.

Posted by: nervous sheep at March 07, 2016 05:28 PM (SiyyF)

550 "Glaciers, gender, and science"

----

Because, apparently, I don't hate us enough already.

Posted by: Nora at Burn It Down dot com at March 07, 2016 05:29 PM (Trq86)

551

I couldn't get very far without being totally embarrassed for them.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 07, 2016 05:29 PM (qCMvj)

552
This remind me of that psych illness where people believe they have personal and often sexual relationships with inanimate objects. There was a nut in the USAF academy who was in love with her jet. She was kicked out of the academy and then fell in love with the Eiffel Tower.

Posted by: Feminist Bruce With a Feminist Wang! at March 07, 2016 05:29 PM (iQIUe)

553 I couldn't get very far without being totally embarrassed for them.

They laughed all the way to the bank.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 05:29 PM (oVJmc)

554 that are often embedded in Eurocentric knowledges

My God, it's full of bullshit.

Posted by: pep at March 07, 2016 05:30 PM (LAe3v)

555 Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 05:27 PM (0mRoj)

Well, maybe, Just wear a dress, a wig,ask loudly for the gender neutral bathroom and make sure your grant proposal has a feminine name as author.

There's some Adam Corolla video where's he dressed in a bad blonde wig pretending to be a woman crashing some leftist event. It's rather funny.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 05:30 PM (w4NZ8)

556 Why are campus feminists allowed to harass and rape glaciers? It's a known fact that psychological rape is worse than physical rape.

Posted by: Fritz at March 07, 2016 05:30 PM (37OkS)

557 Such a field would probably link with this shit and purge nonbelievers.

Somebody has to have time to write internet newsletters.

Posted by: DaveA at March 07, 2016 05:30 PM (DL2i+)

558 I'd like to see one of these folks fight for social and gender justice with a tsunami

Posted by: James T Kirk at March 07, 2016 05:30 PM (rJEUr)

559

I want to grind her glacier into millions of snowcones...

IYKWIM...

Posted by: Wooden Pecker at March 07, 2016 05:31 PM (qul7b)

560 559

I want to grind her glacier into millions of snowcones...

IYKWIM...

Posted by: Wooden Pecker at March 07, 2016 05:31 PM (qul7b)

There's a shaved ice joke in there somewhere...

Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 05:32 PM (0mRoj)

561 Uh oh -- what a slut! She had an affair with the Berlin Wall, too. Now she is married to the Eiffel Tower and she has changed her last name to Eiffel. Frankly, I call bullshit. Just another way of seeking attention.

Posted by: Feminist Bruce With a Feminist Wang! at March 07, 2016 05:32 PM (iQIUe)

562 I want to grind her glacier into millions of snowcones...


IYKWIM...


Posted by: Wooden Pecker a

You will come away splintered.

Posted by: The Glacier at March 07, 2016 05:34 PM (XtAzU)

563 This oregon b.s., it's like the emperor's new clothes. I bet other academics will be too afraid to call it crap.

Posted by: Feminist Bruce With a Feminist Wang! at March 07, 2016 05:34 PM (iQIUe)

564 GetTV is showing Matt Helm movies today.

Talk about a microaggression.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 05:34 PM (oVJmc)

565 561 Uh oh -- what a slut! She had an affair with the Berlin Wall, too. Now she is married to the Eiffel Tower and she has changed her last name to Eiffel. Frankly, I call bullshit. Just another way of seeking attention.
Posted by: Feminist Bruce With a Feminist Wang! at March 07, 2016 05:32 PM (iQIUe)

When she does a train, it's literal.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 07, 2016 05:35 PM (0mRoj)

566

;( I love Matt Helm... stupid job...

Posted by: Wooden Pecker at March 07, 2016 05:37 PM (qul7b)

567 From the Romney thread, so apologies;

Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at March 07, 2016 02:17 PM

The Cowboys, John Wayne and a very young crew of drovers, doesn't seem quite right either. Wayne's character goes to get his old friend (Pickens) because he needs backup to take down a gang. Pickens woman goes with them because there is going to be a gunfight and she won't let her man go without her, and carries her weight in the gunfight.

Stagecoach is too old. This was a fairly recent (for me that's eighties-nineties) movie.

It's odd that the only part I can remember is the gunfight.
Posted by: Gordon Lastherder at March 07, 2016 02:26 PM (MIyiE)

Couldn't be 80s/90s because Wayne died June 11, 1979. His last movie, The Shootist, was released on August 20,1976.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at March 07, 2016 05:37 PM (kXoT0)

568 GetTV is showing Matt Helm movies today.

Talk about a microaggression.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 07, 2016 05:34 PM (oVJmc)



America's number one loaded weapon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 07, 2016 05:38 PM (45oDG)

569 If you don't have glaciers to move things along you get:

http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/
uploads/2016/02/random-pictures-4114.jpg

Then some man has to come along and ram the situation.

http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/
uploads/2016/02/random-pictures-3810.jpg

Posted by: DaveA at March 07, 2016 05:38 PM (DL2i+)

570 >>
I want to grind her glacier into millions of snowcones...

In the crevasse?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2016 05:38 PM (NOIQH)

571

Hey Glacier,

If you wont tell I have a wooden pecker I won't tell that you have splinters in your leading edge...

Posted by: Wooden Pecker at March 07, 2016 05:39 PM (qul7b)

572 As for the stupid climate change glacier feminista dreck, there is more ice pack than ever and we have seen Polar Bears increase from a low of 7,000 to a high of 30,000.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at March 07, 2016 05:39 PM (kXoT0)

573 GetTV is showing Matt Helm movies today.>>>

The glove compartment bar oddly didn't make it to be a standard feature in cars.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 07, 2016 05:39 PM (XtAzU)

574
"I still think this is a hoax, nobody could be that worthless."

I take that back. I just checked my FB count. People are that stupid and worthless. What was I thinking?

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at March 07, 2016 05:40 PM (1BQGO)

575 What's another word for Thesaurus?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 07, 2016 05:40 PM (DYDUy)

576 Full article here: http://bit.ly/1QZ6PJc

Posted by: The Political Hat at March 07, 2016 05:41 PM (vBeA5)

577 Nood APB

Posted by: Skip at March 07, 2016 05:41 PM (fizMZ)

578 I come from the land of the ice and snow

From the midnite sun where the hot springs flow

The Hammer of the Gods

Will drive our ships to new lands

To join the 'horde singing and crying

Valhalla I'm coming

Ah Ah

Posted by: Glacier Immigrant at March 07, 2016 05:41 PM (JO9+V)

579 You would think that feminists would understand that to fully appreciate glaciers one must tame the flow, baby!

Posted by: Fritz at March 07, 2016 05:41 PM (37OkS)

580 Noooooooood

Posted by: nervous sheep at March 07, 2016 05:41 PM (SiyyF)

581 Bloomerberg is out, for the moment.

Reminds me of a biz associate who used to call a another associate often. The other guy was named Dick and had a cute secretary.

My friend would call and ask, "Hi Jill, is Dick in or out?"

Then he'd try not to laugh out loud. He thought it was very funny.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 07, 2016 05:42 PM (3myMJ)

582 I use to love Stella Stevens.

Posted by: Feminist Bruce With a Feminist Wang! at March 07, 2016 05:42 PM (iQIUe)

583 If you've never read up on The Sokol Affair, you ought to: http://preview.tinyurl.com/h9zvdlx

Excerpt from the link:


In 1996 Alan Sokal published a now famous article : Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity in the postmodern journal Social Text. Immediately afterwards he revealed the paper to be an elaborate hoax engineered to expose the bankruptcy of postmodernist discourse about science. In Sokal's own words, it was designed to demonstrate that "a leading North American journal of cultural studies . . . would publish an article liberally salted with nonsense if
(a) it contained the right buzzwords and
(b) flattered the editors' ideological preconceptions."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 07, 2016 05:42 PM (n22zQ)

584 No; Wait; It's not Adam Carolla I'm thinking of; It's the younger guy who does funny undercover interviews at leftist events? Anybody know who I'm thinking of?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 05:42 PM (w4NZ8)

585 Anybody know who I'm thinking of? >>>

Steven Crowder?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 07, 2016 05:43 PM (XtAzU)

586 No; Wait; It's not Adam Carolla I'm thinking of; It's the younger guy who does funny undercover interviews at leftist events? Anybody know who I'm thinking of?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 05:42 PM (w4NZ

*****

James O' Keefe. Project Veritas.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 07, 2016 05:45 PM (jpJUu)

587 "Feminist Glaciology"

Reminds me of the character in Mean Girls who is desperately trying to make "Fetch" a thing.

Posted by: Clive at March 07, 2016 05:47 PM (WC1gC)

588 Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 07, 2016 05:43 PM (XtAzU)

Yes; That's it; Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 07, 2016 05:47 PM (w4NZ8)

589 I want to grind her glacier into millions of snowcones...

In the crevasse?


She's not that kind of gully!

Posted by: Mortimer at March 07, 2016 05:48 PM (maoCu)

590 Couldn't be 80s/90s because Wayne died June 11, 1979. His last movie, The Shootist, was released on August 20,1976.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at March 07, 2016 05:37 PM (kXoT0)


Are we discussing the 1973 film Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid?
YouTube is blocked but here's the Wikipedia synopsis: http://tinyurl.com/h8ffqsx

Posted by: jwb7605 at March 07, 2016 05:49 PM (DofIg)

591 Ice core screw? You want me to use the implements that male scientists have created and used to repeatedly RAPE glaciers, and, by extension, Mother Earth? Sorry, the new feministic science requires new methodologies that do not perpetuate the scientific rape culture that has dominated scientific study for hundreds of years! New methodologies like talking to glaciers (they hear us!), and more importantly, LISTENING to them.

Posted by: FemScientist at March 07, 2016 05:51 PM (LMcFk)

592 Oh, Heisenberg had a cat, alright. Trouble was, he could never find it, exactly.

Posted by: Pjf at March 07, 2016 05:52 PM (ffo2W)

593 It is a valid point that even with a President Trump or Cruz in office, the people who wrote this thing will still have jobs.


The place to do something about it is at the state level where the funding for state university budgets are decided. I admit that Oregon will continue to fund this sort of crap but that is the beauty of federalism. There are 30 Republican governors. Many of them have Republican legislatures. Even if half of them are squishy, the others can cut off funding for this stupid shit, saving their taxpayers money, forcing the people who make a living creating this garbage to either find a real job in the private sector or to compete for one of the shrinking number of leftwing bullshit jobs, forcing some other leftwinger into the private sector economy.


In addition, by reducing the head count of leftwing faculty, it reduces, by some marginal amount, the social pressure on faculty who would otherwise be normal, decent people instead of leftwing myrmidons. As Milton Friedman said, you want a system where bad people do good things because that is what the incentives are. We should try to reduce the incentives, at least in state funded schools, for otherwise good people to do bad things.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 07, 2016 05:52 PM (MpvuV)

594 Really? The feminists want to talk about the massive ice phalluses that plow into Mother Gaia?

Posted by: stuiec at March 07, 2016 05:53 PM (eetvJ)

595 I think I lost a few IQ points by reading this mess. I thought we were suppose to be moving to non gender status, but now glaciers have gender!!!! Color me confused.

Posted by: WI-granny at March 07, 2016 05:55 PM (OYvRq)

596 The premise of this piece as nearly as I can see it is that expecting women to live and work and do research in cold places is sexist and abusive, so it's necessary to accept whatever they're able to do in Excel in a nice warm office as 'science'.

I was going to write the lead author a nice email about how this was the greatest piece of social satire published since the days of Swift, that perhaps it should have been called A Modest Feminist Proposal, but that as social commentary and humor it hardly falls under the NSF's remit so WHERE'S OUR FUCKING MONEY BACK?

Posted by: JEM at March 07, 2016 06:01 PM (o+SC1)

597
My family member, a neurobiologist, is part of a research team working on a cure for impact-related paralysis. They've submitted dozens of grants, but have only received small awards. Nothing close to the large research grants once available for this level of work. The work is arduous and expensive, and will stop next year unless major grant money is awarded.

Reading politicized science foundations awarded this blather $400,000 for coffee shop level of intellectual masterbation, made me rant enough to frighten the neighbors. Just enraging when that funding is needed desperately by researchers who could change lives.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at March 07, 2016 06:09 PM (TKwk8)

598 Thank you for your work on. this. I know it's lame but either w attack this stuff and showcase the extreme examples like this to LIV's or we surrender.

Posted by: Shiggz at March 07, 2016 06:35 PM (G7wcY)

599 Thanks Ace. Right up there with the Kaboom essay -- which you just reposted!

However the Kaboom essay was funny. This meta-science crap is just sad.

--Bad News


Posted by: Bad News Quillan at March 07, 2016 07:37 PM (54kgZ)

600 Most sane people have no familiarity with Marxist cant and jargon.

There is "socially necessary labor," which can mean anything that involves effort approved of by Marxists. So the reason that the market will not provide a living wage to someone who makes mud pies is that it is not socially necessary labor. However, AND THIS IS CRITICAL, anyone who writes Marxist hooey is doing socially necessary labor and so must, to be fair, receive both a living wage and the surplus value associated with hooey. And who determines the surplus value of Marxist hooey: why those who write it obviously.

"Knowledge producer" and "knowledge worker" is cant with three purposes.

First, such people need to be well compensated because of the value of their work in eliminating false consciousness in the Lumpenproletariat and so developing class consciousness among the proles.

Second, knowledge workers are every bit as important, hell much more important, than your average prole. An average prole might do something demeaning like putting garbage in a garbage truck whereas a "knowledge worker" elucidates the feminist take on glaciers, which are apparently sexless but can certainly have gender, which is a cultural construct.

Third, it should be obvious that "knowledge worker" are workers and therefore oppressed and exploited. You need to feel for an associate dean with tenure to the same degree us with migrant farm workers, you capitalist lackey.

Posted by: JeffM at March 07, 2016 07:49 PM (Qg8+H)

601 As a geologist who has an M.S. in Glacial and Quaternary Geology, I must say this is one of the funniest things I have ever read. It was difficult to get through from the laughter. Thank you, Ace.

Posted by: Cooper43 at March 07, 2016 08:02 PM (i0eos)

602 What do you want to bet that Mark Carey was a run-of-the mill geological engineer who discovered that if he spiced up his studies of glaciers with some Marxist-feminist jargon that he could 1) fool the NSF into funding him, and 2) convince some dopey coed undergrads he was done with their struggle so why not sleep with the professor? Sweet deal if you can get it!

Posted by: Yadisneck at March 07, 2016 09:40 PM (k40qI)

603 Sure make fun. All you have is knowledge, but WE have knowledges, which is more, and therefore better.

Posted by: Jackie Rushing at March 07, 2016 10:15 PM (LeofH)

604 Ace, I couldn't even tolerate reading a third of this post. The gibberish made my eyes cross. Dude, I'm so sorry you had to delve into it. But I do thank you for bringing it to my attention. Those womyns be crazy.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue dba Ylva of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy at March 07, 2016 11:10 PM (/DJaS)

605 "So why is over $400,000 intended for actual science going towards this crap?"

It is a mistake to think the issue is giving grants to deserving grantees vs. undeserving grantees. None of them are "deserving." If they are producing something of real value, someone will pay for it with their own money.

Posted by: iowaan at March 08, 2016 08:34 AM (VuJri)

606 Glaciers and women have a lot in common:
1. They both just lay there.
2. They both are very cold.
3. They both move very slowly.
4. They both get wet when heated up.
5. They are both hard to climb onto by a male.

Posted by: Old Country Boy at March 08, 2016 09:13 AM (AOwvt)

607 I forgot - booth have low IQs.

Posted by: Old Country Boy at March 08, 2016 09:16 AM (AOwvt)

608 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot are you talking about ????

Posted by: BOOMBOOM at March 08, 2016 03:50 PM (owuIO)

609 Posted by: Starflower at March 07, 2016 03:50 PM (/D5Lf)

Good morning! Though hokey, this actually makes exponentially more sense than the feminist glaciology "study."

Posted by: April at March 13, 2016 10:19 AM (79ZSg)

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