Hillary's Emails Contain Documents Classified Even More Highly Than Top Secret

She had one goal: Keeping her emails secret from Republicans, citizens, and the inevitable prosecutors.

Keeping America's secrets secret didn't even make the list.

"Several dozen" emails are classified Special Access Program (SAP).

Catherine Herridge, again:

EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.

Fox News exclusively obtained the text of the unclassified letter, sent Jan. 14 from Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III. It laid out the findings of a recent comprehensive review by intelligence agencies that identified "several dozen" additional classified emails -- including specific intelligence known as "special access programs" (SAP).

That indicates a level of classification beyond even “top secret,” the label previously given to two emails found on her server, and brings even more scrutiny to the presidential candidate’s handling of the government’s closely held secrets.

"To date, I have received two sworn declarations from one [intelligence community] element. These declarations cover several dozen emails containing classified information determined by the IC element to be at the confidential, secret, and top secret/sap levels," said the IG letter to lawmakers with oversight of the intelligence community and State Department. "According to the declarant, these documents contain information derived from classified IC element sources."

With the Inspector General releasing this kind of information, it will cause a great amount of embarrassment and outrage when Loretta Lynch, as planned, refuses to seek an indictment against Hillary.

Posted by: Ace at 02:11 PM




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1 First?

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (eEBON)

2 They aren't going to be able to ignore this one. I suspect this is what got the FBI all worked up enough to put 150 agents on the case.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (iONHu)

3 How long, how long can this go on?
How long must we sing this song?

Posted by: Williams Fitzlender at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (C0q4o)

4 If this is there to be found...

what did they erase!?

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 02:17 PM (b99VK)

5 Our security community is a joke. This bint, her whole staff, and 3/4 of the Obama admin should be in jail already.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 19, 2016 02:17 PM (A9KzJ)

6 Gads. It really does feel like human civilization is heading into the end credits.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (DuH+r)

7 Blumenthal Frog Walk, soon?

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (b99VK)

8 If I take a demotion and that bitch skates...

... war!

Posted by: Col. David Petraeus at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (H9MG5)

9 3 How long, how long can this go on?
How long must we sing this song?
Posted by: Williams Fitzlender

______________________________

I think it was Ace who sung 'How Long'. Circle of life, man.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (eEBON)

10 Move along. Nothing to see here. Hillary has left the building.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (zllbf)

11 Nothing's going to happen because what we already know should have been enough already.

Posted by: Joe at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (KUaJL)

12 There will be no indictment until JUST before the Democrat convention...

It will then be a brokered convention... with either Joe Biden, or Gov. Moonbeam from California as the candidate.

In this way, they are not torn down by the Primary process, which is destroying their Republican Rivals.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 02:19 PM (f7rv6)

13
I see no problem here. I get SAP on my TV.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at January 19, 2016 02:19 PM (ODxAs)

14 Oh.... and Hillary will drop out of the Race, and Obama will Pardon her....

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (f7rv6)

15 All of this, all of it!, was inevitable from the moment she began using a home server rather than the state department procedures.

That should never have been allowed. They should throw the book at her and a bunch of other people.

But they won't. Best we can hope for is that she's run out of the election.

Posted by: Lea at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (lIU4e)

16 Those SECRETS are as closed as Humas relationship with Da Hilly...

Posted by: Luther Pendragon at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (hforh)

17 Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's with the Hillary nonsense? We must focus on the important things like who Sarah Palin endorses and what Bristol thinks about that meanie Cruz as another bastard child plops out of her stupid snatch. Priorities Morons!

Posted by: Arson Wells at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (UnJ7w)

18 "What, we don't hear anything"
--Signed, the Media.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at January 19, 2016 02:21 PM (tM4uk)

19 Maybe she will be indicted?

I'd love to see it happen.

We need to have someone attack either way. If she is not indicted, we just have more targets, Hillary and the Obama Regime both.

Posted by: rd at January 19, 2016 02:21 PM (v0YLX)

20 Nada. Zip. Zilch.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 02:21 PM (fWAjv)

21 If the Sec Def busts me down to make an example that no one is above the law, and the DoJ/AG don't issue Cankles a prison striped pant suit...

... war!

Posted by: Pvt. David Petraeus at January 19, 2016 02:21 PM (H9MG5)

22 How does this "commit massive crimes and don't get prosecuted" thing work?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: MTF at January 19, 2016 02:22 PM (LISuA)

23 honest q: will she do anything different if elected President?

Posted by: california red at January 19, 2016 02:22 PM (sBAYv)

24 "On Top of" Top secret?

Posted by: Trump Taj Mahal at January 19, 2016 02:22 PM (6WoS1)

25 Classified emails? Never heard of 'em.

Posted by: Charlie Rose at January 19, 2016 02:23 PM (3GAnN)

26 Think Loretta Lynch gives a rats a** about any outrage that may arise when she refuses to indict Hillary? What would the Rethugicans do? Impeach? Yeah, right. They'll make bold statements in front of any person with a camera crying about the injustice just long enough for the LIV (hell at this point - most of America) to forget about it.

Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed at January 19, 2016 02:23 PM (jxbfJ)

27 If prosecuting Hillary is misogynistic I suppose that's a greater crime than releasing crucial government secrets to every competent foreign spy service. Right?

Posted by: MTF at January 19, 2016 02:23 PM (LISuA)

28 >>will she do anything different if elected President?


Revenge

Posted by: Hillary's First 100 Days at January 19, 2016 02:23 PM (b99VK)

29 "She had one goal: Keeping her emails secret from Republicans, citizens, and the inevitable prosecutors."

She couldn't even do that correctly. Corrupt, incompetent, and vicious - what a warm bundle of charm is our Miss Hillary.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 02:24 PM (hLRSq)

30 it will cause a great amount of embarrassment and outrage

Among who? Certainly not anyone in government.

Posted by: Valiant at January 19, 2016 02:24 PM (2bqlb)

31 And she is too dumb to not have thrown it in the East River.

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 19, 2016 02:24 PM (QM5S2)

32 >>"On Top of" Top secret?


'All covered with cheese'

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 02:24 PM (b99VK)

33 Are they just too incompetent to delete all these emails that show Hillary is guilty? I mean they deleted half ... so maybe they were so busy collecting pay to play mula, and helping Blumenthal, they forgot they had to work hard at burying evidence.

A documentary on old Clinton cocaine stuff is going around Facebook, claiming they were laundering millions, doing big coke parties, wild stuff. With all the Clintons have gotten away with, I guess they could be excused for thinking evidence doesn't matter.

Posted by: Illiniwek at January 19, 2016 02:24 PM (5Gpe2)

34 The classified file: "Who Killed JFK" is totally on that server.

Posted by: LegzzzAkimbo at January 19, 2016 02:24 PM (659DL)

35 So, no flaming skulls because we know nothing will come of it?

Posted by: Mark in Portland at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (QJBko)

36 OT I just published a post on the first banned book of the year

Link in Nov

Also, if there are any foreheads groupies here, voting is open for March & April reads.

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (cbfNE)

37 *cackles*

Posted by: Hillary! at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (vBeA5)

38 No, Barry. I don't think there's such a thing as "Super Duper Califragilisticexpialadocious Secret."

But that's my little thinker. Now go back and watch TV.

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (3GAnN)

39 Forehead= goodreads

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (cbfNE)

40 You'll get a smoking pile of dog dook and like it.

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (QM5S2)

41 >>And she is too dumb to not have thrown it in the East River.


East River doesn't run through Chappaqua.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (b99VK)

42 it will cause a great amount of embarrassment and outrage when Loretta Lynch, as planned, refuses to seek an indictment against Hillary

-----

You mean Obama.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (gmeXX)

43 This would matter if we had an administration that gave half a shit about the rule of law.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (kpqmD)

44 This is why people don't like Ted Cruz, isn't it?

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (3dOE/)

45 I concur with the Horde, Hillary! drops out, brokered convention, Preezy pardon out the door.

Question ... are these FBI leaks internal to force an investigation, or White House initiated to force Hillary! out ?

Posted by: Irony at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (pfxf2)

46 anyone posting here would already be in prison for doing even a fraction of what she is known to have.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (YZH0v)

47
Wow.

- -
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Posted by: Just The Tip at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (1za6a)

48 I miss the old days when the Department of Justice was interested in justice.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (Nwg0u)

49 I bet President Hillary will reopen Gitmo and stock it with her enemy list.

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (cbfNE)

50 New York values.
Who cares where the river is?

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (QM5S2)

51 Link in Nov

Also, if there are any foreheads groupies here, voting is open for March & April reads.

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (cbfNE)

November is a long way away

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (fWAjv)

52 39 Forehead= goodreads
Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (cbfNE)

You spelled "Peyton Manning" wrong.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (kpqmD)

53 Can FBI agents be charged for not doing their job?

I'm honestly asking, if they have someone dead to rights and recommend against pursuing charges because "she's special" is that not the definition of corruption?

I don't know how the FBI gets out of this without recommending charges, yet I still think she won't be charged.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (I+qVZ)

54 WHY IS SHE NOT IN JAIL ALREADY!?!!!


(OK, I know why, but each new tidbit is making my head explode).


Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (NOIQH)

55 Oh shiznit! This is where it gets serious. Not for Hillz but for us. That kind of info is lives on the line stuff. Her being SoS would likely mean in-country intelligence assets.... and what they were reporting on.

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (3ZtZW)

56 Ready for Hillary - Atty. Gen. Lynch?

Posted by: Jock-Strap at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (YMPIP)

57 Don't worry, dear voters!
I'm ready to serve my new country at half the salary!

Posted by: Hillary H2B at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (3b9U4)

58 Most Transparent Administration, Evah!

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 02:29 PM (b99VK)

59 anyone posting here would already be in prison for doing even a fraction of what she is known to have.

Yep. There are, and have been, people sent to prison for less than she's admitted to.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 02:29 PM (evdj2)

60 When will our 'long national nightmare' of this woman finally come to an end?

I don't care who the democrats put up as nominee, the best and brightest, most handsome or most beautiful... they're just embarrassing themselves at this point.

Posted by: ugg boots at January 19, 2016 02:29 PM (fbovC)

61 21 If the Sec Def busts me down to make an example that no one is above the law, and the DoJ/AG don't issue Cankles a prison striped pant suit...

... war!


Posted by: Pvt. David Petraeus at January 19, 2016 02:21 PM (H9MG5)


So..... Lois Lerner keeps her full retirement.... but they go after Petraeus??

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 02:29 PM (f7rv6)

62 China maybe knows more than the FBI.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 19, 2016 02:29 PM (VdICR)

63 OMAHA!

Posted by: Peyton Manning at January 19, 2016 02:30 PM (b99VK)

64 25 Classified emails? Never heard of 'em.
Posted by: Charlie Rose at January 19, 2016 02:23 PM (3GAnN)

Charlie Rose? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charlie by-God Gibson at January 19, 2016 02:30 PM (P5mpr)

65 In an earlier time, back when David Petraeus roamed the earth, this would have been a big deal.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:30 PM (659DL)

66 Like I said previously: Compromising signals or satellite intelligence is a big friggin' deal. If that's what she did, and if Lynch doesn't indict, then the intel chiefs should resign en masse.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at January 19, 2016 02:30 PM (RD7QR)

67 You mean Pete Rose, right?

Posted by: Charley Hustle at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (3GAnN)

68 The FBI best do its job on Hillary's blatant disregard and contempt for the handling of classified information.
Do not think for a second that the FBI cannot get a prosecution despite Lynch....
And if Lynch goes shit stupid(er) and declines prosecution SHE will find herself on the witness stand eventually...count on it.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (jagfX)

69 OK, so who will Obama get to the be the candidate after Hillary gets the majority of the delegates and then has a stroke/is indicted or otherwise rendered radioactive by the weight of these weekly leaks?


Julian Castro?
Kamala Harris?

It will be a blank slate young non-white Dem, right?
Someone the press can fawn over with no obvious baggage to explain (only state-level stuff they can ignore/suppress).

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (NOIQH)

70 I've been reading about the Spanish Civil War. It seems three things caused the Nationalist to revolt. One of t h e three was that people on the right were prosecuted to the full extent of the law, or beyond, for minor or non-existent crimes while crimes of the left were not punished.

Welcome to 1936.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (Nwg0u)

71 48 I miss the old days when the Department of Justice was interested in justice.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (Nwg0u)

Oh but we still ARE interested in Justice, comment code Nwg0u. We're very, VERY interested in justice indeed.

Posted by: Social justice, that is at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (xuouz)

72 Once again we're forced to ask:

How did the SAP (I'm guessing SCI) info get to her private email? You can't forward an email from the high-side to anywhere. They aren't connected to normal networks, blah blah blah.

A story:
I had to do an IT policy overhaul for the IRB when I worked there. Like everything else they wanted me to go find other place's policies, copy it and pretend it helped us. Annnnnyyyywaaayyy...
I got to Harvard's who had several (5 I think) levels of security. Level 1 required among other things:
No windows, no internet, no data cables that ran outside of the room, (i.e. no network access) and card access with entry/exit logging to the room (in addition to the room itself being located inside of an already restricted access facility). I took one look at it and said "Holy shit, that's basically a SCIF."

And yet magically Hillary gets SAP and/or SCI info on her personal email server.

Posted by: tsrblke (on adblocker) at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (tM4uk)

73 Hillary's Emails Contain Documents Classified Even More Highly Than Top Secret

So what? What difference, at this point, does it make? I don't care if they were classified double-secret probationary "for your eyes only". They were my emails and I can do whatever the hell I want with them. If you don't like that then you can write all about it after I jail you as one of my first official acts as Divine Ruler.

Posted by: Queef Shrillary of Cankledom at January 19, 2016 02:32 PM (zc3Db)

74 Sigh. Nothing will happen. And besides, even if she is indicted who would know? The MFM wouldn't breathe a word of it.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 19, 2016 02:32 PM (9iR5/)

75 So, no flaming skulls because we know nothing will come of it?

====

We'd need a new clause in the Constitution for that to happen. "Low crimes and Felonies" maybe

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at January 19, 2016 02:32 PM (3ZtZW)

76 So...we passed the exit for a special prosecutor about five hundred emails ago.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:32 PM (659DL)

77 The biggest reason for the external server was to provide security for Hillary Inc. from Obama and his minions.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 19, 2016 02:33 PM (oDCMR)

78 63 OMAHA!
Posted by: Peyton Manning at January 19, 2016 02:30 PM (b99VK)

Oh ma HAW.

Not sure if anyone else noticed it but during the NE-KC game one of Brady's audibles was "Andy Reid"

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:33 PM (xuouz)

79 "When will our 'long national nightmare' of this woman finally come to an end?"


When Van Helsing scatters her ashes to the winds.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 02:33 PM (hLRSq)

80 There goes Barry Obama's Legacy. Hillary Clinton, in one fell swoop just cleaned his clock and shamefully relegated his administration behind Dick Nixon's.

Posted by: Fritz at January 19, 2016 02:33 PM (UzPAd)

81
With the Inspector General releasing this kind of information, it will cause a great amount of embarrassment and outrage when Loretta Lynch, as planned, refuses to seek an indictment against Hillary.


Now that's why I come to this place.

Top-drawer funneh.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 19, 2016 02:34 PM (X6fMO)

82 November is a long way away
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (fWAjv)

My tablet hates me

I meant link in nic

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 02:34 PM (cbfNE)

83 I see no reason to get concerned about what Mrs. Clinton may or may not have done. What the American people are concerned with is my conservative record as governor of the great state of Florida.

Posted by: Jeb! at January 19, 2016 02:34 PM (ZWRoJ)

84 The ball-less Republican Leadership could establish a Joint Special Committee with investigatory powers, if they wanted to. Simply rule that Congresses oversight powers are not subject to filibuster.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 02:35 PM (evdj2)

85 Forehead= goodreads

===

I think that ought to be the nickname for all the Goodreads horde: Foreheads. Like Morons, only more goofy.

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at January 19, 2016 02:35 PM (3ZtZW)

86 She's pro-abortion, anti-gun and LGBT-approved. That's her Get-Out-Of-Jail free card.

Posted by: Roy at January 19, 2016 02:35 PM (VndSC)

87 Not sure if anyone else noticed it but during the NE-KC game one of Brady's audibles was "Andy Reid"
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:33 PM (xuouz)

Ha! Didn't catch that. I do remember from last year or the year before when I think the Eagles played Denver and when Peyton was Omaha-ing at the line, the defense was yelling "Papa Johns! Papa Johns!"

Posted by: Mainah at January 19, 2016 02:35 PM (659DL)

88 Best we can hope for is that she's [Hillary's] run out of the election.Posted by: Lea at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (lIU4e)

No way is that happening. The American Left has spent decades marching through the institutions, lying to the public, cheating in every election, and stealing as much as they could funnel to their non-profits for offshore laundering later to give up control of the federal government as the result of a free and fair election.

They can't leave it to Bernie. That damn fool commie actually believes his own bullshit. Too unreliable. No, itmust be Hillary. Obama knows this even though he hates that woman with every fiber of his being.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 02:35 PM (OGbEB)

89 I think that ought to be the nickname for all the Goodreads horde: Foreheads. Like Morons, only more goofy.
Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at January 19, 2016 02:35 PM (3ZtZW)

Oh muh HAW

Posted by: Peyton "Fivehead" Manning at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (xuouz)

90 The classified file: "Who Killed JFK" is totally on that server.

-
The Roswell stuff, too. Finally, the people will find out the true heritage of Bernie Sanders.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (Nwg0u)

91 50
New York values.
Who cares where the river is?


Posted by: Roland THTG at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (QM5S2)


It kind of matters.

Posted by: "Sully" Sullenberger at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (3dOE/)

92 A desperate nation turns its gaze several miles kilometers northeast to a waiting Lincoln Chaffee.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (659DL)

93 "Julian Castro?
Kamala Harris?

It will be a blank slate young non-white Dem, right?
Someone the press can fawn over with no obvious baggage to explain (only state-level stuff they can ignore/suppress)."


How about my best friend Corey?

Posted by: T-Bone at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (OD2ni)

94 "There will be no indictment until JUST before the Democrat convention... It will then be a brokered convention... with either Joe Biden, or Gov. Moonbeam from California as the candidate."

If the Obama machine are able to insert a candidate of their choice in the aftermath of a Clinton implosion, then you can take it to the bank that it won't be Joey Choo-Choo.

Nor Moonbeam, with whom Obama has no prior history. They haven't hit it off in person on the few occasions that they've met.

My guess? Longtime Obama crony Deval Patrick. Think "legacy".

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (noWW6)

95 How long, how long can this go on?
How long must we sing this song?



This is the song that never ends,
It just goes on and on and on, my friends.....

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (ct0K5)

96 How did the SAP (I'm guessing SCI) info get to her private email? You can't forward an email from the high-side to anywhere. They aren't connected to normal networks, blah blah blah.


--

Can you print?
Print -> scan to pdf -> and it's on a new network

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (cbfNE)

97 We only have the Congress.

There's nothing that we can do.

Posted by: GOP at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (b99VK)

98 " There goes Barry Obama's Legacy."


And no one is going to be madder about this than President Obama when he reads it in the newspaper...oh, wait.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (hLRSq)

99 >>And yet magically Hillary gets SAP and/or SCI info on her personal email server.

Probably accessible to Clinton foundation staff as well as her closest aide, Muslim Brotherhood's Huma Abedin.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (NOIQH)

100 If Bernie wants any chance at the Dem nomination he'll have to slam her with this publicly.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn (Tanned and Rested) at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (UhRGU)

101 No way is that happening. The American Left has spent decades marching through the institutions, lying to the public, cheating in every election, and stealing as much as they could funnel to their non-profits for offshore laundering later to give up control of the federal government as the result of a free and fair election.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 02:35 PM (OGbEB)

Ugh. True.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:37 PM (xuouz)

102 Washington DC is more interested in what name the Weather Channel is going to give to the winter storm coming there later this week, than they are about Hillary's crimes.

Posted by: Roy at January 19, 2016 02:38 PM (VndSC)

103 95 How long, how long can this go on?
How long must we sing this song?



This is the song that never ends,
It just goes on and on and on, my friends.....
Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (ct0K5)

Oh God, no, I can't take this again, NOT AGAIN!

Posted by: Shari Lewis' Lamb Chop at January 19, 2016 02:38 PM (kpqmD)

104 Liz Warren and Joe Biden to the rescue!

Posted by: steevy at January 19, 2016 02:38 PM (8HTq1)

105 Nothing will happen. But I do think that losing to old Bernie would devastate her more than any conviction or jail time. It would mean the end of the Clinton reign.

And then all of those really bad people from all those shitholes in the ME would start demanding the Clintons return all those millions of dollars. Powerless and middle class is her worst nightmare.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 02:38 PM (Fmupd)

106 Hillary will have all of our votes.

Posted by: Civil War Veterans of America at January 19, 2016 02:39 PM (b99VK)

107 >>The biggest reason for the external server was to provide security for Hillary Inc. from Obama and his minions.

And us.
Pesky FOIA jerks wanting get all up in her business.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:39 PM (NOIQH)

108 And then all of those really bad people from all those shitholes in the ME would start demanding the Clintons return all those millions of dollars. Powerless and middle class is her worst nightmare.
Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 02:38 PM (Fmupd)

She could hide out with Sean Penn.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:39 PM (xuouz)

109 >>> it will cause a great amount of embarrassment and outrage when Loretta Lynch, as planned, refuses to seek an indictment against Hillary.

Nixon weeps with jealousy from the grave. The fact that it is 50/50 on whether she gets prosecuted for this is majorly depressing.

Posted by: LizLem, is dissapoint at January 19, 2016 02:39 PM (hvf9s)

110 No one told Me their was a Hillary! thread... I was stuck in the Palin swamp... I feel dirty...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:39 PM (/dSsq)

111 She should be prosecuted but, when she isn't, it makes a great campaign issue. Two different standards, one for us and one for them, is a heck of a problem for a lot of people.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 19, 2016 02:39 PM (8Pg2o)

112 Chelsea has another bun in the oven. I think that merits at least a week worth of headlines. In each trimester.

Posted by: Fritz at January 19, 2016 02:39 PM (UzPAd)

113 Can you print?

Print -> scan to pdf -> and it's on a new network

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (cbfNE)

And this is the way you beat the secure network monitors, then throw in a good OCR program, and you have an editable equivalent of the original document (in Word or PowerPoint)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 19, 2016 02:40 PM (wYnyS)

114 You'll never get me coppers! Hehehehehe..(cough)...hehehehehe. Now Huma, fetch me another Vodka Martini, dear.

Posted by: Granny Clinton at January 19, 2016 02:40 PM (od1KN)

115 Washington DC is more interested in what name the Weather Channel is going to give to the winter storm coming there later this week, than they are about Hillary's crimes.
Posted by: Roy at January 19, 2016 02:38 PM (VndSC)

Ugh...I was just saying this to a coworker. In Maine it's called Thursday with maybe a two hour delayed school opening. Down here it's SnowmageddonOMGGETTHEMILK!!!

Posted by: Mainah at January 19, 2016 02:40 PM (659DL)

116 My guess? Longtime Obama crony Deval Patrick. Think "legacy".



Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (noWW6)


Could play either way.... while Moonbeam and Biden have name recognition, and low negatives..

Someone unknown... with NO real name recognition negatives could be the play...

ie... play against Trump or Cruz's known negatives with an unknown...

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 02:40 PM (f7rv6)

117 >>The fact that it is 50/50 on whether she gets prosecuted for this


No way Vegas pays even money.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 02:40 PM (b99VK)

118 Burning times.

Posted by: Yip at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (e7T6D)

119 I think Loretta Lynch will actually indict Sarah Palin for some petty, manufactured infraction dating back to 2008.

Because, banana republic, see Dinesh DSouza.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (hqZPQ)

120 I wonder what Bristol Palin thinks about all of this?

Posted by: Arson Wells at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (UnJ7w)

121 Hasn't Hillary! already wrapped up the Super Delegates?

It's almost impossible for Bernie anyway unless he runs the table.

Effect on Nom. = 0

Effect on General = 0 (MSM goes into protection mode)

Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (0cMkb)

122 Our current GOPe couldn't organize a Lynch Mob.

Posted by: DaveA at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (DL2i+)

123 60/40 against her doing time.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (Xo1Rt)

124 Wish this would go somewhere but I'm pessimistic...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (/dSsq)

125 How is this happening?

So, SCI/SAP messages cross the air-gap, get on Clinton's server and the odds are she won't be indicted?

This is mind-fucking.

Can anyone imagine the hell to pay, the media shitstorm if we swapped [Hillary Clinton] with [Dick Cheney]?!

Posted by: Uriah Heep at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (XnsZl)

126 We only have the Congress.



There's nothing that we can do.

Posted by: GOP at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (b99VK)

But our hands are tied!

Posted by: Speaker Hrothgar Ryan at January 19, 2016 02:42 PM (wYnyS)

127 If they are going to pick the candidate I would start with who is on ValJar's Nice List.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 19, 2016 02:42 PM (oDCMR)

128 Nothing will happen. But I do think that losing to
old Bernie would devastate her more than any conviction or jail time.
It would mean the end of the Clinton reign.
Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 02:38 PM


I doubt it will happen. Bernie is the wet-dream of the hardcore lefty 1960s retreads, but it would take surgery -- and marriage to Bubba -- for him to get the support of the rest of the party.

They can console themselves by realizing nothing Shrillery has done (so far, anyway) has packed the destructive power, treason and duplicity of the Choom Boy regime. And you know what they think og him....

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 02:42 PM (ZPz7d)

129 >>Liz Warren and Joe Biden to the rescue!

Nah, I don't see it. Look at who Obama surrounds himself with - young, dumb but loyal punks like Rhodes, Psaki, Harf, etc. If Obama wants a lasting legacy (or really, ValJar), they need to put someone in the WH who will appreciate their help and be responsive to their influence and advice. That's why I would pick someone younger and out of left field.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:42 PM (NOIQH)

130 I had no classified documents on my server.
I HAD NO classified documents on my server.
I HAD NO CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS on my server.
I HAD NO CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS ON MY SERVER!!!!!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton, Accomplisher at January 19, 2016 02:42 PM (AhyHb)

131

Terrible. Daily Mail has a rotten story about Heidi Cruz, Ted Cruz wife. It's police department report saying she was pulled over to the side of the road, head in her hands distraught, two little girls in the back. And police wrote they were concerned she was "a danger to herself"



Man. That's unfair.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:42 PM (zOTsN)

132 I wonder what Bristol Palin thinks about all of this?

Posted by: Arson Wells at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (UnJ7w)



I think I'm pregnant again.

Posted by: Bristle Palin at January 19, 2016 02:42 PM (0cMkb)

133 As one who has spent a career in the IC, this is incredibly serious...ENIGMA on steroids serious. This is the kind of Intel that doesn't just win or lose battles, this is the kind that wins or loses wars.
Nations fail with kind of Intel being fed to adversaries.
If true, a lot of people need to go to prison for this.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2016 02:43 PM (r65B3)

134 Print -> scan to pdf -> and it's on a new network

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (cbfNE)



Or,

Print -> Strip Classification Headers at Hillary!'s Direction -> Scan -> On a Server in the Restroom Closet

Posted by: Country Singer at January 19, 2016 02:43 PM (GUBah)

135 "How did the SAP (I'm guessing SCI) info get to her private email? You
can't forward an email from the high-side to anywhere. They aren't
connected to normal networks, blah blah blah."

Cleared Clinton flunky walks into a secure SCIF/SIPRnet room carrying a smartphone, for which they haven't been searched, because no one wishes to incur the wrath of Her Nibs by "interfering" with favorite Clinton courtiers.

Said flunky calls up classified message traffic on the screen, photographs it on their smartphone, leaves, and then later pipes the screen images through OCR to get text forwardable by e-mail.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 02:43 PM (noWW6)

136 This is clearly just another attempt by the Rethuglicans and Faux news to embarrass our hysterical next President!

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 02:43 PM (qSIlh)

137 Were the classified emails transferred over, or was classified info mentioned in unclassified emails?

The second would be the most likely way to have spillage. Clinton lackey A gets an intelligence brief and then regurgitates it in an email on the unclassified side.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 19, 2016 02:44 PM (OiH3z)

138 >>>>
I concur with the Horde, Hillary! drops out, brokered convention, Preezy pardon out the door.



Question ... are these FBI leaks internal to force an investigation, or White House initiated to force Hillary! out ?
.
.
.The FBI Director is in a pi$$ing contest with both DOJ and obama.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 19, 2016 02:44 PM (iONHu)

139 Probably accessible to Clinton foundation staff as well as her closest aide, Muslim Brotherhood's Huma Abedin.

===

No kidding. A real investigation might find that actual people died as a result of this incompetence intransigence. And Huma would be suddenly nowhere to be found and memoryholed.

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at January 19, 2016 02:44 PM (3ZtZW)

140 132 I wonder what Bristol Palin thinks about all of this?

Posted by: Arson Wells at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (UnJ7w)


I think I'm pregnant again.




Thanks for the laugh I needed that...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:44 PM (/dSsq)

141 Wonder if any of these leaks were connected to the Iranian seizure of our fastboats last week...of course, the MFM turned it into a victory for Obama in getting our sailors back.

So glad I'm not in the military anymore...

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 19, 2016 02:44 PM (hqZPQ)

142 131 Oh yeah,because that has never happened to like very mother in the USA at some point.

Posted by: steevy at January 19, 2016 02:44 PM (8HTq1)

143 I am tanned, rested and ready.

Posted by: Corey Booker at January 19, 2016 02:44 PM (b99VK)

144 I salute Catherine Herridge, btw, for being a fine reporter.

Posted by: MTF at January 19, 2016 02:45 PM (LISuA)

145 If true, a lot of people need to go to prison be shot for this.



Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2016 02:43 PM (r65B3)

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 19, 2016 02:45 PM (wYnyS)

146 re 143: you sound like Joe Biden.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 02:45 PM (qSIlh)

147 I salute Catherine Herridge, btw, for being a fine reporter.



She is. I can't imagine How frustrated She must be that this gets virtually ignored...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:46 PM (/dSsq)

148 She had the take from satellites on an unsecure server. That means America's enemies know not just what we know, but how good our satellites are. Thanks a lot, Mrs. Clinton.

Posted by: pookysgirl at January 19, 2016 02:46 PM (K27gs)

149 And this is the way you beat the secure network monitors, then throw in a good OCR program, and you have an editable equivalent of the original document (in Word or PowerPoint)!

===

Just make sure you get the kerning right!

- Dan Rather

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at January 19, 2016 02:46 PM (3ZtZW)

150 Man. That's unfair.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:42 PM


Sure is. But Shit Must Be Stirred, no matter how trivial, erroneous and (probably) incorrect.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 02:46 PM (ZPz7d)

151 She had one goal: Keeping her emails secret from Republicans, citizens, and the inevitable prosecutors.

1/2 out of three so far, not bad for a commie.

Posted by: DaveA at January 19, 2016 02:46 PM (DL2i+)

152

Man. Mrs. Cruz wasn't even in her car. She went for a walk after dinner and sat on the side of the road, head in her hands, distraught. The cop said she was a danger to herself because he felt at 10 ft she was too close to the road



Shitty low blow Bushies

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:46 PM (zOTsN)

153 She has a legitimate excuse.

She was drunk at the time, and thus not responsible for her actions.

Posted by: Ponsonby Britt at January 19, 2016 02:46 PM (tNSR3)

154 "With the Inspector General releasing this kind of information, it will cause a great amount of embarrassment and outrage when Loretta Lynch, as planned, refuses to seek an indictment against Hillary"


No. No it won't.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 02:47 PM (Zs4uk)

155 Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 02:43 PM (noWW6)


I'm thinking the spillage occurred via hard copy, based on the email about "Secure Fax" troubles. Print it out, and out the door with it Sandy Berger-style.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 19, 2016 02:47 PM (GUBah)

156 150 Man. That's unfair.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:42 PM

Sure is. But Shit Must Be Stirred, no matter how trivial, erroneous and (probably) incorrect

Unfair? Don't You know that only Republicans and their Families are fair game....


The unbiased Media...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:47 PM (/dSsq)

157 Wow. The smartest woman sure is dumber than a bag of limp dicks.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 19, 2016 02:47 PM (xWW96)

158 >>Cleared Clinton flunky walks into a secure SCIF/SIPRnet room carrying a smartphone, for which they haven't been searched, because


they never check your socks.

Posted by: Zombie Sandy Berger at January 19, 2016 02:47 PM (b99VK)

159 'There should be no bank too big to fail and no individual too big to jail.'



We'll see

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 02:48 PM (fWAjv)

160 I was confused. Don't you people know confused?

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at January 19, 2016 02:48 PM (8ZskC)

161 Liz won't run because she can see and hear them chickens in the holding pattern for the Roost.

And they're all Democrat Chickens. Bought and paid for.

Which is why I'm tempted to let them (the Democrats) have the power so that they take it in the shorts because they caused most of it.

We're already being warned of 'another' recession worse than 2008.

Since we never really recovered and since the Fed is all out of strategies to inflate the economy and since Europe is undergoing some 'fundamental change' we can expect things to get/become worse in the near future.

Forget the lawyers, buy guns and money. Oh and drugs. Cause grannies not gonna be able to get her life giving (or death preventing) medicine.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:48 PM (Xo1Rt)

162 Whoever leaked that non event police report, for sitting too close to road, needs to burn.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:48 PM (zOTsN)

163 I love it when they say 'higher than TOP SECRET.' TOP SECRET is the highest classification. However, there are additional compartmentalized markings you can have in addition to the TOP SECRET label. That is what they are talking about here.

It is best explained by the 'need to know' idea. Many things can be labeled TOP SECRET, but you may not need to know about everything labeled TOP SECRET if you have a TOP SECRET clearance. Therefore, there is additional labeling that goes along with TOP SECRET and a person must have access to those different additional compartmented markings. For each additional marking, you must be 'read in' before you can have access. You can have a lot of those markings on one report, depending on the information in the report and where it came from.

Hillary would have been 'read in' to probably a lot of these different additional markings, since she was at the highest level of government. You have to read and sign something to be given access to each. Hillary definitely knew that things labeled with additional markings were highly classified documents.

She's a liar.

Posted by: K-E at January 19, 2016 02:49 PM (3mSJj)

164 Forget the FBI.

It's time for the IC to revolt.

Posted by: Aye Mi Trumpi! at January 19, 2016 02:49 PM (/vXUo)

165 I write about this because I am resigned to the fact nothing will ever happen to Hillary

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:49 PM (zOTsN)

166 I am old! I was confused!

Posted by: Granny Clinton at January 19, 2016 02:49 PM (3dOE/)

167 162 Whoever leaked that non event police report, for sitting too close to road, needs to burn.

Hey they're just getting started....These are important issues for the public unlike Hillarys! silly e-mail thingy...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:50 PM (/dSsq)

168 She's a liar.

Posted by: K-E at January 19, 2016 02:49 PM (3mSJj)


That is on a need to know basis.

Posted by: MSM at January 19, 2016 02:50 PM (fWAjv)

169 >>This is the kind of Intel that doesn't just win or lose battles, this is the kind that wins or loses wars.
Nations fail with kind of Intel being fed to adversaries.


Looks at the Middle East. Iran, ISIS, etc.
Yup.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:50 PM (NOIQH)

170 re 161: here's a possible next strategy to stimulate the economy: allow people to take a tax deduction for their credit card interest payments. Could be almost as effective as printing money.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 02:50 PM (qSIlh)

171 Forget the FBI.



It's time for the IC to revolt.

Posted by: Aye Mi Trumpi! at January 19, 2016 02:49 PM (/vXUo)

Now there's a good idea, I'll get right on it!

Posted by: John al-Quds Brennan at January 19, 2016 02:50 PM (wYnyS)

172 BREAKING: Snooki still thinks Hillz' reported possession of a vagina trumps rampant corruption, fraud, incompetence and illegality.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2016 02:50 PM (8ZskC)

173 Yeah, this isn't about Hillary anymore. This is about a complete fucking security breakdown enmass and with collusion and forethought. This is criminal conspiracy at the MINIMUM. Folks that should have said something DID NOT and they should be fired at a minimum and scared into dropping dimes on the whole mess.

If there isn't 30 + Federal ass-prison indictments handed down over all of this.... I mean... is it Democrats everywhere in all these agencies? Does no one say anything because they value a paycheck and who's in charge more than their country?

Posted by: Yip at January 19, 2016 02:51 PM (e7T6D)

174 Herridge is a fine reporter, but not because she scooped anybody. This story is out there--nobody but Herridge wants to pursue it. Which is messed up.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 19, 2016 02:51 PM (8Pg2o)

175 But Sarah Palin is soooo stupid! She can see Russia!

Posted by: Tina Fey at January 19, 2016 02:51 PM (UBS9M)

176 Why are you afraid of vaginas, ace?

Posted by: blaster at January 19, 2016 02:51 PM (2Ocf1)

177 Washington DC is more interested in what name the Weather Channel is going to give to the winter storm coming there later this week, than they are about Hillary's crimes.


Unfortunately, it looks like start time for Global Warming Snow Event is late Friday afternoon, so most government employees have schedule already worked out:
9:10 arrive for work
9:11 surf pron
12:00-1:30 lunch
1:59 shut down computer
2:00 leave early

Posted by: ugg boots at January 19, 2016 02:51 PM (fbovC)

178 "She has a legitimate excuse.

She was drunk at the time, and thus not responsible for her actions.
Posted by: Ponsonby Britt"


Hillary, plead the 18th Amendment. Tell 'em you were drunk the whole time.

Posted by: Ed Norton at January 19, 2016 02:52 PM (OD2ni)

179 170 re 161: here's a possible next strategy to stimulate the economy: allow people to take a tax deduction for their credit card interest payments. Could be almost as effective as printing money.
Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 02:50 PM (qSIlh)

I'm trying to decide if this is a good idea or satire whooshing over my head.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:52 PM (xuouz)

180 Jeb! plan to beat ISIS.


#2 - Enforce a no-fly zone



o.O


ISIS has an airforce???

Posted by: MSM at January 19, 2016 02:52 PM (fWAjv)

181 Man. Mrs. Cruz wasn't even in her car. She went for a walk after dinner and sat on the side of the road, head in her hands, distraught. The cop said she was a danger to herself because he felt at 10 ft she was too close to the road
Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:46 PM (zOTsN)


FFS!!!!

Posted by: Lea at January 19, 2016 02:52 PM (lIU4e)

182
What difference, at this point, does it make?!//1/1?!!?!?1/11/?

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 19, 2016 02:52 PM (HSmrB)

183 >>>>>Liz won't run because she can see and hear them chickens in the holding pattern for the Roost.

And they're all Democrat Chickens. Bought and paid for.

Which
is why I'm tempted to let them (the Democrats) have the power so that
they take it in the shorts because they caused most of it.

We're already being warned of 'another' recession worse than 2008.

Since
we never really recovered and since the Fed is all out of strategies to
inflate the economy and since Europe is undergoing some 'fundamental
change' we can expect things to get/become worse in the near future.

Forget
the lawyers, buy guns and money. Oh and drugs. Cause grannies not gonna
be able to get her life giving (or death preventing) medicine.
.
.
.They know a Republican is going to win and they are rigging the game early.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 19, 2016 02:52 PM (iONHu)

184 I'm gonna put her in jail 'til she rots. No, check that...I'm gonna put her in jail 'til the jail rots on top of her, then I'm gonna move her to another jail and let that jail rot. I'm...

Posted by: Doc Hudson at January 19, 2016 02:53 PM (659DL)

185 any MSM: and now, our top story: in 1985, Marco Rubio's father took the family to a Waffle House for breakfast and didn't leave a tip.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 02:53 PM (qSIlh)

186 HRC has too much dirt on both dems and repubs
to keep her from the nomination. If she goes down she will take half the people you have ever heard of in D.C. with her. Also, her best chance of staying outa jail is to win the Presidency.

Posted by: danny at January 19, 2016 02:53 PM (ipWk5)

187 Suck it, Republicans. I had all of the classified emails printed out and then translated into Navajo so no laws were violated and no one was harmed.

Posted by: Shrillary at January 19, 2016 02:53 PM (3GAnN)

188 Well, da Zero has another opportunity it ignore the orders of a Federal judge.

http://goo.gl/fzv5N6

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 19, 2016 02:53 PM (xWW96)

189 The thing is, first defense out of her mouth was "everybody is doing it" and I'm certain that's the case. I have no doubt that security in the Obama white house is a total sieve and the left hand has no clue what the right is doing. I'm guessing every single agency leader has, by policy, a separate email account for stuff they want to avoid getting FOI requests over or subpoena'd for by congress.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:53 PM (39g3+)

190 You know why it doesn't matter if Hillary was allowing secrets to get to our enemies?

Because Obama was already in bed with them.

Name one enemy we have that Obama hasn't appeased or allowed to dupe us. (dupe as in patsy or shill)

She's good cause State was giving away the store anyway.

Up front.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:53 PM (Xo1Rt)

191 I can see Ted Cruzs' birthplace from my front porch.

Posted by: Sarah Pal-in at January 19, 2016 02:53 PM (fbovC)

192 SIGINT reveals in particular are a bitch, because they usually involve compromising a particular communications channel believed by the enemy to be secure; the instant the belief is punctured, the enemy discontinues it and shifts to a new channel instead.

NSA and USN collaborated on the ultrasecret "Ivy Bells" program to have nuclear subs sneak in and tap seabed Soviet military comm trunks, thought by the USSR to be invulnerable to intercept. It was a huge intelligence coup. Everything from ballistic missile telemetry to top Russkie generals gossiping about Kremlin power struggles.

But the intel take was cut short, and the billions invested all wasted, when John Walker blew the existence of the program to KGB spy handlers for a few thousand bucks.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 02:53 PM (noWW6)

193 **ring***ring** Hello, you have reached the Justice Department. No one is availabe to take your call. We are all at a Team Building Event in the Bahamas, courtesy of the Clinton Foundation. When we get back, we will answer your call in the order they were received. We will be back in the office Feb. 2017. **click**buzz***

Posted by: Paladin at January 19, 2016 02:54 PM (E1aoU)

194 9:10 arrive for work
9:11 surf pron
12:00-1:30 lunch
1:59 shut down computer
2:00 leave early


Hah! You left out "surg pr0n" for a half hour after lunch.

Posted by: Your Friends at the IRS at January 19, 2016 02:54 PM (8ZskC)

195 The leftists at the top of the government heap will have to do "something" about Hellary.

Whatever it is, they also want people who value the Rule of Law to know that it will be lawless, and you can't stop it, and they do so at least partly to show it.

Inelegant wording, but better words are eluding me at the moment. Get what I mean?

Kind of like when he puts his middle finger up along side his cheek.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 19, 2016 02:54 PM (kKHcp)

196 Sounds like pretty serious classification. Quoting Herridge:

Executive Order 13526 -- called "Classified National Security Information" and signed Dec. 29, 2009 -- sets out the legal framework for establishing special access programs. The order says the programs can only be authorized by the president, "the Secretaries of State, Defense, Energy, and Homeland Security, the Attorney General, and the Director of National Intelligence, or the principal deputy of each."

Posted by: MTF at January 19, 2016 02:54 PM (LISuA)

197 HRC has too much dirt on both dems and repubs
to keep her from the nomination.


She'd have pulled the pin on that grenade in '08 if it had any charge left. They have more on her than she has on them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:54 PM (39g3+)

198 I object to the lack of flaming skull on this. If we don't treat it like a big deal why would ABC, CBS, NBC, WaPo and the NYT?

It's like we're accepting that she walks (waddles) on this.

I think we need to focus on the fact that Obama and ValJar hate her guts, and expect that the FBI and DOJ finally do their jobs, even if its for the wrong reasons.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 19, 2016 02:55 PM (kfcYC)

199 If she did ALL of her secretary of state work on her personal email what the f did everyone think would be on her little private server, and who has over a third of their email private messages.

Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2016 02:55 PM (hk3Fb)

200 I have binders full of top secret emails.

Posted by: Hillary 2016 at January 19, 2016 02:55 PM (UBS9M)

201 HRC has too much dirt on both dems and repubs
to keep her from the nomination. If she goes down she will take half the people you have ever heard of in D.C. with her.

Don't get my hopes up. Would love to flush 95% of D.C. down the toilet and start over.

Posted by: K-E at January 19, 2016 02:55 PM (3mSJj)

202 "Unfortunately, it looks like start time for Global Warming Snow Event is late Friday afternoon, so most government employees have schedule already worked out:
9:10 arrive for work
9:11 surf pron
12:00-1:30 lunch
1:59 shut down computer
2:00 leave early"


They are so incompetent here that Metro actually sends reminders telling the government to "stagger your departures" so the hard working public servants do not all bum rush Metro at the same time.

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 19, 2016 02:55 PM (OD2ni)

203 At the Hot Air link, they cite 18 USC 793 (g) and say it "might qualify everyone involved as members of a conspiracy".

So why isn't that IT guy being squeezed like a little biotch until he sings? He's in violation of the same laws as she is, and he's one of the little peons, so the law DOES still apply to him.

Posted by: Everyone with a Conscience at January 19, 2016 02:56 PM (ats44)

204 I believe Hillary! is gonna be indicted as much as I believe Kasich is "surging" and is 7 points behind Trump...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:56 PM (/dSsq)

205 There were plenty of times when my kids were toddlers that you would find me at the end of the day, with my head in my hands, distraught. Let's not even talk about when they were teenagers

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:56 PM (zOTsN)

206 200 is the thread winner. Thanks for playing and we hope to see you again soon.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:56 PM (xuouz)

207 re 179: satire, but tell me it sounds any dumber than what you hear some of the Dems proposing these days.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 02:56 PM (qSIlh)

208 48 I miss the old days when the Department of Justice was interested in justice.

Posted by: The Great White Snark

They were never interested in justice, just the law. Now they are not even interested in that.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 19, 2016 02:56 PM (kfcYC)

209 We've already used the triple skull on this subject. And you know you don't pull out the triple skull but maybe once a year.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 19, 2016 02:56 PM (VdICR)

210 Is that thing about Heidi Cruz the one that happened several years ago? That's already been out in the press. Nice of them to be pushing it again right before the Iowa caucus though.

Posted by: stace at January 19, 2016 02:56 PM (CoX6k)

211 It doesnt matter what the fbi recommends or not. It is the DOJ who makes the decision.

And she will never be charged with anything. Wise up!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 19, 2016 02:56 PM (iQIUe)

212 They are so incompetent here that Metro actually sends reminders telling the government to "stagger your departures" so the hard working public servants do not all bum rush Metro at the same time.
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 19, 2016 02:55 PM (OD2ni)

lol where is here?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:57 PM (xuouz)

213 I'm just surprised that a nasty old First Lady rape-enabler can get a top secret clearance to begin with. Who vetted this vicious abuser?

Posted by: Fritz at January 19, 2016 02:57 PM (UzPAd)

214 OH, YEAH? TRUMP SAID "TWO CORINTHIANS!!!!"

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:57 PM (659DL)

215 They are so incompetent here that Metro actually sends reminders telling the government to "stagger your departures" so the hard working public servants do not all bum rush Metro at the same time.

My departure is always staggered.

*hic*

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at January 19, 2016 02:57 PM (8ZskC)

216 Look, there's something here I've been loathe to even bring up, but it's been bugging me for years now.

Do any of the various subgroups that make up Tribe Progtard have a problem with the fact that they've thrown in with a bunch that those outside their tribe see as lawbreaking barbarian looters incapable of handing in a competent and honest day's worth even with guns to their heads?

Because if I was a member of a group that was trying to claw my way up the scale of respectability, being identified as part of a group made up of criminals and traitors wouldn't exactly be high on the desirables.

Just saying, is all, just saying.

Baka.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 19, 2016 02:57 PM (9krrF)

217 >>> Terrible. Daily Mail has a rotten story about Heidi Cruz, Ted Cruz wife.

The comments are good though. DM is one of the few sites with sane commenters most of the time.

Choice comment: "How come they could never find a past with Obama. However, they dig up everyone else's past."

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2016 02:58 PM (hvf9s)

218 Lynch will do what Obama/Jarrett wants her to do.

Posted by: Cheri at January 19, 2016 02:58 PM (oiNtH)

219 Catherine Herridge, doing the work 99% of other reporters don't or refuse to do.

Jail for anyone other than Le Haggard Harridan Hag (who looks 80+ in recent photos, no offense to other octogenarians).

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 19, 2016 02:58 PM (7lqMl)

220 Lynch will do what Obama/Jarrett wants her to do.

Exactly

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:58 PM (/dSsq)

221 Yup. It's from 10 years ago. This is a compelling story only to people without children, or people who do not raise their children

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:59 PM (zOTsN)

222 Trump working hard for the Iowa vote, now he's doing a big time endorsement of corn ethanol, the blight on the nation's economy. Nothing good has come from this debacle whatsoever, unless you count donations and votes from the corn industry.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:59 PM (39g3+)

223 Let's all just face facts, if Hillary isn't indicted-at the very fucking least- then there is no Law in America and we have Tyranny.
And just as soon as we get hungry and cold and there's no more TV to watch, We're gonna God damn do something about it.

Posted by: the guy who always wants to face facts. at January 19, 2016 02:59 PM (of67s)

224 Hillary is a fine public servant who is well-deserving of the coveted Liberty Medal that I awarded to her.

Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at January 19, 2016 03:01 PM (8ZskC)

225 "lol where is here?
Posted by: Ghost of kari"


DC. I don't work for the government or take Metro, thank goodness.

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 19, 2016 03:01 PM (OD2ni)

226

It's not like anyone else knows about except Fox news watchers and conservative blogs.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 19, 2016 03:01 PM (qCMvj)

227 I think hillarys most recent debate performance was not for the voters, it was Obama. It was he swearing fidelity to him. She needs him to save her

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM (zOTsN)

228 Lynch will do what Obama/Jarrett wants her to do.

And what they want is for Hillary to suffer and fail, not be jailed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM (39g3+)

229 We all know Hillary is a narcissistic psychopath turned criminal and has been since Watergate. What we need to do is focus our energy onto the MSM to report it. Shame them into doing it. If liberals are capable of shame.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM (qbqnC)

230 >>HRC has too much dirt on both dems and repubs

to keep her from the nomination.



>>She'd have pulled the pin on that grenade in '08 if it had any charge left. They have more on her than she has on them.

I recall reading that in one of the email dumps or an FBI leaks that Hillary was in possession of (on her server) classified memos from the Bush era, communications about Iraq Afghanistan war, detainee interrogation type stuff. Stuff she had no business having. Who knows what kind of stuff she collected over 4 years at State. After being found in possession of freakin' FBI files on her and Bill's enemies as FLOTUS, I would not put anything past her.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM (NOIQH)

231 As a parent sometimes you put your hands on your head, otherwise they'd be around someone's neck choking the living shit out of them.

The adorable little bastards.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM (Xo1Rt)

232 222 Trump working hard for the Iowa vote, now he's doing a big time endorsement of corn ethanol, the blight on the nation's economy. Nothing good has come from this debacle whatsoever, unless you count donations and votes from the corn industry.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:59 PM (39g3+)

Yeesh. Well. He's acting like a politician. That's good, right?

He clearly WANTS IT, right?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM (xuouz)

233 It's not like anyone else knows about except Fox news watchers and conservative blogs.

Drudge has a pretty big audience and He has it.. I know mostly Conservatives go there but maybe some Independents?

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM (/dSsq)

234 S.A.P??? SAP?? I don't know anything about that, you mean like from tree?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM (MbrzC)

235 And just as soon as we get hungry and cold and there's no more TV to watch, We're gonna God damn do something about it

Long as that internet works, I'm okay with it!

Posted by: Most of America at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM (39g3+)

236 Well, da Zero has another opportunity it ignore the orders of a Federal judge. Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 19, 2016 02:53 PM

You think any "records" still exist (if they ever did)?

Once again, Choom Boy is "guilty as sin, free as a bird."

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 03:03 PM (ZPz7d)

237 Trump walks behind the rows.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:03 PM (evdj2)

238 Yeesh. Well. He's acting like a politician. That's good, right?

I guess that's where we are now.

Posted by: Most of America at January 19, 2016 03:03 PM (39g3+)

239 Doesn't anyone remember all the FBI files that Hillary absconded with?

Files that were all about all the pols in DC and elsewhere?

She's been gathering dirt since the '70's.

Which is why she's gotten as far as she has without accomplishing a damn thing useful.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:04 PM (Xo1Rt)

240 Posted by: Tobasco at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (I+qVZ)
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I don't think so, I think agents can get procecuted though for interfering with investigation\evidence though.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:04 PM (MbrzC)

241 So..... Lois Lerner keeps her full retirement.... but they go after Petraeus??

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 02:29 PM (f7rv6)
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Yup. Obama logic.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:05 PM (MbrzC)

242 Let's all just face facts, if Hillary isn't indicted-at the very fucking least- then there is no Law in America and we have Tyranny.
And just as soon as we get hungry and cold and there's no more TV to watch, We're gonna God damn do something about it.
Posted by: the guy who always wants to face facts. at January 19, 2016 02:59 PM (of67s)


---------------


What do you think EBT, SSDI, extended unemployment benefits, home heating and air conditioning subsidies, 'Bama pho's, and indiscriminate psychotropic prescription writing is for?

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 03:05 PM (Fmupd)

243 I am sure Mika Brezhinski will have a hard hitting report on this once the Obama White House text it to her.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at January 19, 2016 03:05 PM (LGPwE)

244 >>> And just as soon as we get hungry and cold and there's no more TV to watch, We're gonna God damn do something about it.
Posted by: the guy who always wants to face facts. at January 19, 2016 02:59 PM (of67s)


Oh there will be TV to watch my friend! Just not for you.

Posted by: Real Housewhores of Beverly Hills, Heather has 10 mommies, and a remake of Bewitched with Latina Wic at January 19, 2016 03:05 PM (hvf9s)

245 "Trump working hard for the Iowa vote, now he's doing a big time
endorsement of corn ethanol, the blight on the nation's economy.
Nothing good has come from this debacle whatsoever, unless you count
donations and votes from the corn industry."

P.J. O'Rourke once said that when politicans are granted the power to determine the terms on which things may be bought and sold, the first things to be bought and sold will be politicians.

Per corollary: when individual states are artificially elevated above others in the national primary process, what inevitably results is pandering to those states' special interests.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 03:05 PM (noWW6)

246 I actually hate to think about what would be outrageous or appalling enough to surprise me in These Modern Times.

Routine treason and lesser criminality have become the order of the day.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 19, 2016 03:05 PM (Z8DIA)

247 Nothing will ever happen to Hillary because we don't have competent writers.

The left has a monopoly on committed people. MSNBC spent a solid month, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, focused exclusively on a potential candidate closing a lane on a bridge.

Closing a lane on a fucking bridge...

From the coverage, you would have thought that Christie had personally dumped the relatives of every left wing media person in the ovens of Auschwitz. That is the level of commitment they had to stick to the story and demand action.

Our guys would write one article in passing and move on.

Hillary is safe. No one on our side will spend the time to pursue it and we don't have the level of coordination to pull off a group effort.

They win.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 03:05 PM (Zs4uk)

248 And everyone in my family continues to insist that ALL Secretaries of State have done the exact same thing as Hillary. Just more right-wing conspiracy mongering.

Posted by: Pyrocles at January 19, 2016 03:05 PM (MYMcU)

249 Ugh it cut off my nic!

Posted by: ... and a remake of Bewitched with Latina Wiccans at January 19, 2016 03:06 PM (hvf9s)

250 I'm thinking we are gonna need a flaming helmet hair skull (like the Blago version) for the inevitable Hillary flameout.

For the record, I promise to not be this optimistic again for a month. Besides it being against my nature.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 19, 2016 03:06 PM (gyKtp)

251 But I thought it was all cookie recipes and her daughters wedding?

Posted by: Average Voter and Kardashian Watcher at January 19, 2016 03:07 PM (GGCsk)

252 And what they want is for Hillary to suffer and fail, not be jailed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

I think that she'd rather be indicted and string this out than lose to Sanders or whatever they throw out there. With one she can claim persecution, attack on women and VRWC...the other, she fails and knows that her days in politics are over once and for all.

Posted by: Cheri at January 19, 2016 03:07 PM (oiNtH)

253 248 And everyone in my family continues to insist that ALL Secretaries of State have done the exact same thing as Hillary. Just more right-wing conspiracy mongering.
Posted by: Pyrocles at January 19, 2016 03:05 PM (MYMcU)

=============

If they have ALL done it, then they shd have no problems providing you with actual proof. If not, tell them to shut their pieholes.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 19, 2016 03:07 PM (iQIUe)

254 He clearly WANTS IT, right?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM


Naaaah. When Cruzer embraces teh ethanolz, he's playing eleventy-seven dimensional chess, like a True Conservative.

When Trump does it, he's just be a Big Mean Meanie Who's Really, Really Mean. And a Liberal.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 03:07 PM (ZPz7d)

255 186: "If she goes down she will take half the people you have ever heard of in D.C. with her."

You know, strangely enough, I would be ok with that.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:07 PM (4nmNX)

256 And everyone in my family continues to insist that ALL Secretaries of State have done the exact same thing as Hillary. Just more right-wing conspiracy mongering.
Posted by: Pyrocles at January 19, 2016 03:05 PM (MYMcU)

Haha, one of the things Powell is credited with is bringing State INTO the modern age. To think that he, and Sec States before him were running some off-the-books email operation like Hillary's is laughable.

Posted by: Mainah at January 19, 2016 03:09 PM (659DL)

257 General I. Charles? There you have it.

Posted by: Golfman at January 19, 2016 03:09 PM (48QDY)

258 255 186: "If she goes down she will take half the people you have ever heard of in D.C. with her."

You know, strangely enough, I would be ok with that.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:07 PM (4nmNX)

I'm only ok with it if I get to pull the lever. At LEAST once.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:10 PM (xuouz)

259 Because if I was a member of a group that was trying to claw my way up the scale of respectability, being identified as part of a group made up of criminals and traitors wouldn't exactly be high on the desirables.

===

You misunderstand the situation.

If we're nearing nigh-Civil War 2 levels of animosity it is only because its a war akin to rival Mafia families, not because one 'side' is any better than the other.

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at January 19, 2016 03:10 PM (3ZtZW)

260 "And everyone in my family continues to insist that ALL Secretaries of State have done the exact same thing as Hillary."

Man, was my private e-mail server ever slow.

Posted by: Zombie Dean Acheson at January 19, 2016 03:10 PM (noWW6)

261 If Lynch refuses to prosecute I think you'll see a lot of resignations from the FBI and eventually a crisis situation. Electorally, for Queen Frozens Tits it will take place at a very bad time- which is good for the country.

People don't like the Ice QUeen as it is. This will just be one more icicle on her hairy chin.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2016 03:10 PM (GGCsk)

262 "I'm thinking we are gonna need a flaming helmet hair skull (like the Blago version) for the inevitable Hillary flameout."

Flaming skull with vodka bottle? Or with a walker?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 03:10 PM (hLRSq)

263 When Cruzer embraces teh ethanolz, he's playing eleventy-seven dimensional chess, like a True Conservative.

When Trump does it, he's just be a Big Mean Meanie Who's Really, Really Mean. And a Liberal.


What, they can't both be politicians without integrity or honor?

Posted by: Most of America at January 19, 2016 03:11 PM (39g3+)

264 Nothing good has come from this debacle whatsoever,

Octane doesn't just spill out of the ground like it used to ya know. We shouldn't be paying IA farmers extra for it.


Posted by: Boost - It's whats for lunch at January 19, 2016 03:11 PM (DL2i+)

265 You know, strangely enough, I would be ok with that.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:07 PM


Feature, not bug.

The only way it would be better is if the "50% takedown" was expanded to, say, 99%....

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 03:11 PM (ZPz7d)

266 Branstad just kicked Cruz in the nuts by calling for his defeat.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:11 PM (4ErVI)

267 Oh, look! I just forgot to care...

Posted by: Loretta Lynch at January 19, 2016 03:11 PM (3U4+k)

268 I can't wait until Granny Clinton breaks out with "SAP, what you mean like on the TV" as her response.

Posted by: no good deed at January 19, 2016 03:11 PM (qKM67)

269 "And everyone in my family continues to insist that ALL Secretaries of State have done the exact same thing as Hillary."

I'll bet my left nut that Kerry uses Department of State email.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2016 03:11 PM (GGCsk)

270 >>But I thought it was all cookie recipes and her daughters wedding?

And....
--- Get that other aide to get me some iced tea!!!
--- How do I fax?
--- How do I record The Good Wife?
--- Did you check out the lamps Chelsea found for you, Huma? Here's the link...

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 03:12 PM (NOIQH)

271 both parties hate us period. nothing will happen to our queen. she will rule with an iron thumb. america is finished and has been for at least since FDR. so live it up 52%'s it's all good. i quit all this shit. the law is for little people. voting is useless.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 19, 2016 03:12 PM (ucDmr)

272 Screw jail. Other people doing this would be put up against a wall and shot for treason.

Maybe it's because I was raised right, but I do not comprehend the nigh to pathological refusal to place the security of the nation before one's own political ambitions. Actual people were (and are I assume) placed at actual risk.

Hell, it's like what's going on in Flint with the lead in the water. I'm horrified by that. How can anyone get up in the morning and look in the mirror and just *not care* that the public water system of which said person had some oversight was contaminated with lead? I don't want to hear oh but the Dems controlled it or oh it was the Republicans who shoved cost cutting through. Individual people made individual decisions to just not care that the public water supply was made dangerous.

How? How can you do that? How can you work for the EPA and know that you poisoned a river and have your prior goal be to be sure that no single individual is ever named for that rather than being horrified that you were part of that and you poisoned the very land and water you wanted to protect? How?

I despair, I despair.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 19, 2016 03:12 PM (mf5HN)

273 Who is Branstad?

Posted by: Cheri at January 19, 2016 03:12 PM (oiNtH)

274 Off sock

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 03:12 PM (fWAjv)

275 Trump walks behind the rows.

===

HE WANTS YOU TOO! HE WANTS YOO-OO TOO-OOOOO

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at January 19, 2016 03:13 PM (3ZtZW)

276 What, they can't both be politicians without integrity or honor?

Posted by: Most of America at January 19, 2016 03:11 PM


Not around here, Skippy.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 03:13 PM (ZPz7d)

277 "would be ok with that"

Ok with it ? If I was a more prayerful person generally, I would be praying for it every day.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 19, 2016 03:13 PM (Z8DIA)

278 273 Who is Branstad?
Posted by: Cheri at January 19, 2016 03:12 PM (oiNtH)

Iowa governor

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 03:13 PM (fWAjv)

279 if Lynch refuses to prosecute I think you'll see a lot of resignations from the FBI

Yeah, like with the IRS!!

...oh wait.

I recently read of a man making a speech (can't remember who) asking the crowd whether they'd be willing to die for their country. People cheered and clapped and stomped: hell yes!

Then he asked if they would be willing to lose their job for their country. The crowd was very quiet.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:13 PM (39g3+)

280 Save our men at Benghazi- said none of Hillary's emails ever...

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2016 03:13 PM (GGCsk)

281 Who is Branstad? Some party boss in Iowa?

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:13 PM (zOTsN)

282 >>
If Lynch refuses to prosecut...

Knowing Obama, it will never get to that point. The investigation will go, ever so slowly, on until Hillary drops out, and then he pardons her on his way out the door. Remember, Obama is the master of *not* making decision, just letting things happen.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 03:14 PM (NOIQH)

283 Naaaah. When Cruzer embraces teh ethanolz, he's playing eleventy-seven dimensional chess, like a True Conservative.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 03:07 PM

When did Cruz embrace ethanol? The Iowa governor just said not to vote for Cruz because Cruz is the biggest opponent of renewable fuels of all the candidates.

Posted by: stace at January 19, 2016 03:14 PM (CoX6k)

284 Hell, if I got caught wearing a Fitbit into a Secret area, I'd be in for a world of shit.

That's just something capable of a bluetooth connection, and that's enough to take a firing for.

Our stupid and lazy media has absolutely no interest in finding out why this is such a big story.

Posted by: Chupacabra at January 19, 2016 03:14 PM (RQDhf)

285 The only way it would be better is if the "50% takedown" was expanded to, say, 99%....
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 03:11 PM (ZPz7d)

A sweet little meteoroid of death, like not a big deal, just the size of a tractor trailer.

Here, I'll be magnanimous about it. You can choose where it lands: congress or the white house.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:14 PM (xuouz)

286 He's Iowa's governor and he's served forever. He was governor over there when I was a teenager and then came back years later and won again. They like him.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:15 PM (4ErVI)

287 Other people doing this would be put up against a wall and shot for treason.

I prefer hanged. There's something really awful and dehumanizing about it (although supposedly if done well it is incredibly fast and humane).

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:15 PM (39g3+)

288 You know, strangely enough, I would be ok with that.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:07 PM

Feature, not bug.

The only way it would be better is if the "50% takedown" was expanded to, say, 99%....
Posted by: MrScribbler



Only way it could truly be better? Is if there is a true, dem body count.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:15 PM (ct0K5)

289 227 I think hillarys most recent debate performance was not for the voters, it was Obama. It was he swearing fidelity to him. She needs him to save her

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:02 PM (zOTsN)
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this^ yup

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:15 PM (MbrzC)

290 So the Iowa gov supports Trump because of Ethanol. Do I have the right? Fine. What a glorious and righteous victory.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:16 PM (zOTsN)

291 Gads. It really does feel like human civilization is heading into the end credits.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (DuH+r)


There's a reason they call it denouement. Taken from the original froggese meaning "unravelling/unknotting."

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at January 19, 2016 03:16 PM (wKcQA)

292 Ok, Branstad Governor of Iowa - now it makes sense.

Speaking to a small group of reporters at the Iowa Renewable Fuels Summit in Altoona, where several 2016 presidential candidates are slated to speak, Branstad labeled Cruz a "big oil" candidate whose victory would be "very damaging to our state."

Posted by: Cheri at January 19, 2016 03:16 PM (oiNtH)

293 Then he asked if they would be willing to lose their job for their country. The crowd was very quiet.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:13 PM (39g3+)


Proving that perhaps there are things worse than death?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 19, 2016 03:16 PM (kKHcp)

294 Here, I'll be magnanimous about it. You can choose where it lands: congress or the white house.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:14 PM


I can't have both?

* looks in pocket for coin to flip *

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 03:16 PM (ZPz7d)

295 Eh. Gotta run

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at January 19, 2016 03:17 PM (3ZtZW)

296 Trump unelectable.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/

Posted by: Brad at January 19, 2016 03:17 PM (OflSf)

297 284 Hell, if I got caught wearing a Fitbit into a Secret area, I'd be in for a world of shit.

That's just something capable of a bluetooth connection, and that's enough to take a firing for.

Our stupid and lazy media has absolutely no interest in finding out why this is such a big story.



They're not stupid or lazy. They're in on it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:17 PM (ct0K5)

298 Per corollary: when individual states are artificially elevated above
others in the national primary process, what inevitably results is
pandering to those states' special interests.


If Hawaii was first, pineapples would be a strategic national asset that must be protected at all costs.

Posted by: pep at January 19, 2016 03:17 PM (YXmuI)

299 >>279
if Lynch refuses to prosecute I think you'll see a lot of resignations from the FBI

Yeah, like with the IRS!!

...oh wait.
<<

There's a l ot more at stake here for the FBI. Not only do they lose credibility, but they lose all future cases of a similar nature. In addition, in past cases decided with similar evidence will be open for appeal.

Not only will they have to re-litigate the past, but they're screwed in the future.

If Obama wants to pardon somebody, using this standard he should pardon Scooter Libby, who did nothing wrong in the first place.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 19, 2016 03:17 PM (GGCsk)

300 so here's a video to make you all feel better

http://tinyurl.com/zq3nq2j

[no, not Obama falling down the steps getting off the helicopter]

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 03:17 PM (qSIlh)

301 It doesn't look like he's supporting Trump, but it's definitely all about the ethanol.


Somebody is just going to have to smile and nod their head and then just cut off all the subsidies right away as soon as they assume office and just take the hit.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (4ErVI)

302 Can't they be stupid, lazy, and in on it?

Posted by: Chupacabra at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (RQDhf)

303 Speaking to a small group of reporters at the Iowa Renewable Fuels Summit in Altoona, where several 2016 presidential candidates are slated to speak, Branstad labeled Cruz a "big oil" candidate whose victory would be "very damaging to our state."



Fvck Big Corn!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (ct0K5)

304 As a taxpayer in Texas I am delighted to be subsidizing ethanol in Iowa. Just fucking delighted

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (zOTsN)

305 "It will then be a brokered convention... with either Joe Biden, or Gov. Moonbeam from California as the candidate."

No, moonbeam would have thrown his hat in the ring already - remember, he hates the Clintons. I think Cuomo is the one waiting in the wings.

Posted by: Ann in UK at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (GbuZW)

306 The public at large doesn't know that even saying the name of SAP info is a breach let alone actually releasing the Intel. Holy shit, anyone else would already be exchanging yoga routines and beauty secrets with Bradley Manning at Leavenworth.

Posted by: no good deed at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (qKM67)

307 No we do not have to prosecute, under the doctrine of droit du seigneur.

Posted by: Loretta "Integrity" Lynch, Esq. at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (k8tEg)

308 Proving that perhaps there are things worse than death?

I think it proved that for these people at least, death was a theoretical, off somewhere else, in a story in their minds where they go out in a blaze of glory with flags and eagles in the background. But their job is every day and too real.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:19 PM (39g3+)

309 266 Branstad just kicked Cruz in the nuts by calling for his defeat.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:11 PM (4ErVI)
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I think maybe thats the anwser to the speculation of the day, not sarah but terry.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:19 PM (MbrzC)

310 296 Trump unelectable.


Concern noted.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 19, 2016 03:19 PM (r9tFS)

311 290 So the Iowa gov supports Trump because of Ethanol. Do I have the right? Fine. What a glorious and righteous victory.
Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:16 PM (zOTsN)

Yes, and he said specifically not to vote for Cruz because Cruz hates ethanol more than the other candidates do.

So, we can all look forward to paying for more ethanol subsidies.

Posted by: stace at January 19, 2016 03:19 PM (CoX6k)

312
They aren't going to be able to ignore this one.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (iONHu)







Watch them.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2016 03:19 PM (j4wsR)

313
What do you think EBT, SSDI, extended unemployment benefits, home heating and air conditioning subsidies, 'Bama pho's, and indiscriminate psychotropic prescription writing is for?------Soona

When THAT runs out...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 19, 2016 03:20 PM (0x/TW)

314 271 both parties hate us period. nothing will happen to our queen. she will rule with an iron thumb. america is finished and has been for at least since FDR. so live it up 52%'s it's all good. i quit all this shit. the law is for little people. voting is useless.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 19, 2016 03:12 PM (ucDmr)


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For me, it all boils down to how this next prez election goes. If it goes sideways, I'm going to start executing my options.

The sad part is that none of the options are good, but they are better.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 03:20 PM (Fmupd)

315 281 Who is Branstad? Some party boss in Iowa?

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:13 PM (zOTsN)
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I know it's IA, but I would have thought people would know who the governor was.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:20 PM (MbrzC)

316 re 305: Cuomo does act like he wants to be the next Bill Clinton sort of middle-of-the-road Democrat. Enough scandals in NYS though that could be used to bring him down

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 03:20 PM (qSIlh)

317 303 Speaking to a small group of reporters at the Iowa Renewable Fuels Summit in Altoona, where several 2016 presidential candidates are slated to speak, Branstad labeled Cruz a "big oil" candidate whose victory would be "very damaging to our state."



Fvck Big Corn!
Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (ct0K5)

In Soviet America Big Corn fvcks YOU.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at January 19, 2016 03:20 PM (RD7QR)

318 Because with oil lunging to 15 bucks a barrel, we need more ethanol. I love conservatism

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:20 PM (zOTsN)

319 303
Speaking to a small group of reporters at the Iowa Renewable Fuels Summit in Altoona, where several 2016 presidential candidates are slated to speak, Branstad labeled Cruz a "big oil" candidate whose victory would be "very damaging to our state."







Fvck Big Corn!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (ct0K5)


I am OK with this.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 19, 2016 03:20 PM (3dOE/)

320 304
As a taxpayer in Texas I am delighted to be subsidizing ethanol in Iowa. Just fucking delighted

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (zOTsN)

I live in Nebraska and I don't support the subsidies. That stuff doesn't really give you that much of a boost and it's hard on the engine's parts, or so I've heard. It's cheaper, but just barely. Not enough to be dumping God knows how much money into it.
They can't sell that corn to someone else? Anywhere? I find that hard to believe.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:20 PM (4ErVI)

321 Recipes, yoga workouts and wedding plans for Chelsea.

Posted by: Adironack Patriot at January 19, 2016 03:21 PM (KCQo0)

322 No flaming skulls because our official Banana Republic status is already old news and all questions have already been answered.

Posted by: Ex NYC Paysan at January 19, 2016 03:21 PM (k8tEg)

323 ethanol sucks. refuse to use that shit. only run premium or buy from stations that state NO ETHANOL. fuck that shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 19, 2016 03:21 PM (ucDmr)

324 Cuomo would be purple state Kryptonite. I don't see how that would play out particularly well.

Posted by: Chupacabra at January 19, 2016 03:21 PM (RQDhf)

325 This is the conservatism we were all looking forward to. He better fix the border and deport. Or not, if enough Governor's go hat in hand to him.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:22 PM (zOTsN)

326 We AlL tRumP dOwn hERe.

Posted by: Pennywise the Dancing Trump at January 19, 2016 03:22 PM (vgIRn)

327 So I guess the big question is, at the risk of saying what must not be said, how far does this go before the shooting starts?

If you are going to have a banana republic economy, a banana republic style government, and a banana republic level of "law", you will have banana republic "Festivities".

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:22 PM (4nmNX)

328 296 Trump unelectable.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/

Posted by: Brad at January 19, 2016 03:17 PM (OflSf)


And the polls show we're going to lose the governor's race in Kentucky by 8 points.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 03:22 PM (Zs4uk)

329 Even Castro's against ethanol. You'd think that'd be enough for the lefties.

Posted by: Chupacabra at January 19, 2016 03:22 PM (RQDhf)

330 I prefer hanged. There's something really awful and dehumanizing about it (although supposedly if done well it is incredibly fast and humane).Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:15 PM (39g3+)

Fast? Humane? Tell you what, pard. Having my head popped off like a champagne cork was fucking hilarious. Or so I'm told.

Posted by: Black Jack Ketchum at January 19, 2016 03:22 PM (OGbEB)

331 So, we can all look forward to paying for more ethanol subsidies.

Posted by: stace at January 19, 2016 03:19 PM (CoX6k)
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If it hasn't changed much to date, it's likely not going too.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:23 PM (MbrzC)

332 315 281 Who is Branstad? Some party boss in Iowa?

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:13 PM (zOTsN)
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I know it's IA, but I would have thought people would know who the governor was.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:20 PM (MbrzC)







Iowa is a state?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2016 03:23 PM (j4wsR)

333 304 As a taxpayer in Texas I am delighted to be subsidizing ethanol in Iowa. Just fucking delighted
Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:18 PM (zOTsN

Just how are Iowa corn farmers different than China?

Posted by: Golfman at January 19, 2016 03:23 PM (48QDY)

334 314: i here ya soona. i aim to disappear if possible. fuck em.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 19, 2016 03:23 PM (ucDmr)

335 Iowa is a state?

Yeah, it's one of those places people fly over...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 03:23 PM (/dSsq)

336 Well if you can't stand up to the governor from Iowa, I look forward to the hard nosed negotiations with political leaders from California and New York. I'm sure he's just saving himself for the big fights

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:24 PM (zOTsN)

337 She said there was no classified material. She said nothing about Special Access Programs. Duh!

Posted by: Dr Irish at January 19, 2016 03:24 PM (qQSYE)

338 Corruption has just beaten Waste/Fraud/&Abuse in
Hide &Go Seek

Posted by: But Waste/Fraud/&Abuse Still Came In Second at January 19, 2016 03:24 PM (nbGZj)

339 Iowa is a state?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2016 03:23 PM (j4wsR)
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That's what they tell me, with a gov who's been there for like, god I don't even know how many terms but a long time.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:25 PM (MbrzC)

340 Its pretty obvious that no matter who is elected to congress, the direction of the culture and law only goes one way. They had a chance to stop that retarded lightbulb law, and didn't. They have had dozens of chances to stop ethanol subsidies and have not. Once something is in place, it stays.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:25 PM (39g3+)

341 339: "That's what they tell me, with a gov who's been there for like, god I don't even know how many terms but a long time."

The ethanol must flow. He who controls the corn, controls the universe.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:25 PM (4nmNX)

342 Proving that perhaps there are things worse than death?


In fairness, the dead aren't hungry.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:26 PM (evdj2)

343 That's what they tell me, with a gov who's been there for like, god I don't even know how many terms but a long time.



Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:25 PM (MbrzC)

Yeah not consecutive terms but shit he was governor back when I was in school for crying out loud.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:26 PM (4ErVI)

344 I prefer hanged. There's something really awful and dehumanizing about it (although supposedly if done well it is incredibly fast and humane).Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:15 PM (39g3+)

Fast? Humane? Tell you what, pard. Having my head popped off like a champagne cork was fucking hilarious. Or so I'm told.


As I have said numerous times here:
60 ft drop, 50 ft rope. The "pop" is 100% certain. Even if the rope breaks.....

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:26 PM (ct0K5)

345 310 296 Trump unelectable.
Concern noted.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 19, 2016 03:19 PM (r9tFS)

He's seen an almost 10% drop in his unfavorables and a similar rise in his favorables since his announcement, with no drop due to his muslim comments, and he's been running to the right of John Birch. He'll tack towards the center for the general. He's a goddamn eel.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:26 PM (xuouz)

346 Every oil refinery and terminal has stopped buying stuff because of the current price of oil.

If the ethanol plants stop buying, I'll be eating out of a dumpster.

I think the subsidies serve a purpose right now.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (Zs4uk)

347 Forget ethanol - what are the candidates stances regarding the National Strategic Bacon Usage Requirements?

Are they true free market advocates or are they in the pocket of Big Pig?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (hLRSq)

348 Oh, wait...
Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 03:22 PM (Zs4uk)

I'm guessing polls showing Donald Trump losing will be dismissed right up to the time he loses, whereupon his loss will be blamed on polling bias, issue framingand semantic loading.

The fact that he isn't a conservative, isn't remotely likeable and doesn't even rate as a decent human being will have nothing to do with it, right?

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (OGbEB)

349 They had a chance to stop that retarded lightbulb law, and didn't. They have had dozens of chances to stop ethanol subsidies and have not. Once something is in place, it stays.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:25 PM (39g3+)
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^This^ - Every blue moon there is an exception to this but as a standing rule - yup.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (MbrzC)

350 The implied contract between generations has been broken.

The arbiters of that contract; the media and the politicians have unilaterally decided that the obligations to those in the past are irrelevant now.

They're going to find out that every now has it's future and every future has it's past and if they're not going to keep those contracts then what are we doing obeying the law and playing the game by the rules?

But by then it's too late to get back what has been lost.

It's probably already to far gone to make any kind of recovery.

American may be great again but we'll never be honorable again.

Once you've gone back on your word, you'll never be fully trusted ever again. This applies to people, States, Federal government and corporations. And organization or individual has a reservoir of honor and respect. Once you drain that that reservoir, you usually can never refill it. Unless you do something suicidal. And you acquire respect and honor posthumously.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (Xo1Rt)

351 I guess Hillary can always blame the political officer for bollixing her message traffic.

"He didn't exactly slip on his tea..."

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (hqZPQ)

352 Congress has had a chance to reverse idiotic shower head, toilet, and washing machine laws. They never do. All the little tyrannical nanny state trash that has been imposed they do nothing to fix. They like it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:28 PM (39g3+)

353 346: "I think the subsidies serve a purpose right now."

When robbing Peter to pay Paul, one can always count on the support of Paul.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:28 PM (4nmNX)

354 Casto's against ethanol because it rots out those 1958 small block Chevy engines.

Posted by: Decrepid Communist, But Not An Idiot at January 19, 2016 03:28 PM (nbGZj)

355 The fact that he isn't a conservative, isn't remotely likeable and doesn't even rate as a decent human being will have nothing to do with it, right?
Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (OGbEB)

Yeah. Yeah!

And the way he says China is all fucked up!

I hate it! I hate him!

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:28 PM (xuouz)

356 Because with oil lunging to 15 bucks a barrel, we need more ethanol.


Lord knows I do.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:28 PM (evdj2)

357 How about selling your corn for food and feed instead of fuel.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 03:28 PM (qbqnC)

358 Mr West I will be your neighbor in the dumpster next door. The subsidies are bullshit welfare for farmers. And totally ridiculous at this point

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:29 PM (zOTsN)

359 @348 The fact that he isn't a conservative, isn't remotely likeable and doesn't even rate as a decent human being will have nothing to do with it, right?

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (OGbEB)

Wow. The hate is strong with this one. He is not even a decent human being?

Posted by: IC at January 19, 2016 03:29 PM (a0IVu)

360 I tend to be of the opinion that Obama will destroy Hillary. Biden said he wouldn't run the *day before* Hillary testified re: Benghazi last fall. It's clear to me that she said if he ran, she would spill the beans on administration malfeasance, like how Obama issued a stand down order, leaving Americans to die, and ordered his administration to lie about it to preserve his reelection campaign.

Obama/Biden cut that deal, but it pissed them the F off, and so now want to sabotage her campaign. If the nomination goes to Sanders, that's best, but I think they might be willing to put her in a jumpsuit to keep her out of the White House.

Others speculate that Biden will enter the race late, but I don't know that's realistic. Primary deadlines are primary deadlines.

Posted by: Apostate at January 19, 2016 03:29 PM (QzX8V)

361 The Clinton campaign is driving up the cost of ethanol.

She's carrying the torch for the Kennedy dynasty, after all.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 19, 2016 03:30 PM (hqZPQ)

362 If the ethanol plants stop buying, I'll be eating out of a dumpster.

I think the subsidies serve a purpose right now.
Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (Zs4uk)

Yet you are HERE!

Posted by: Golfman at January 19, 2016 03:30 PM (48QDY)

363 In fairness, the dead aren't hungry.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:26 PM (evdj2)


------------------


Well, except for BRAINS!

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 03:30 PM (Fmupd)

364
Others speculate that Biden will enter the race late, but I don't know that's realistic. Primary deadlines are primary deadlines.


Not for Democrats....

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 03:30 PM (/dSsq)

365 So now it's conservative to support ethanol subsidies, Kelo, Canadian healthcare, etc.

I guess there's no point in having any principles at all. Let the GOPe have it. Who gives a shit?

Posted by: stace at January 19, 2016 03:31 PM (CoX6k)

366 whereupon his loss will be blamed on polling bias, issue framingand semantic loading.

And people who love and worship polls will keep doing so even as they become less and less valuable and accurate will find reasons they're still somehow true and valid.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:31 PM (39g3+)

367 So on a lighter note:


Anyone famous die today?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:31 PM (4ErVI)

368 Intellectual honesty that he did it to win I can deal with. Pretending the ethanol program is more than farmer welfare I cannot

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:31 PM (zOTsN)

369 352 Congress has had a chance to reverse idiotic shower head, toilet, and washing machine laws. They never do. All the little tyrannical nanny state trash that has been imposed they do nothing to fix. They like it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:28 PM (39g3+)
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Doesn't matter if they like it or not, it comes down to the people willing to pay to keep it the way it is, vs. number of people paying to have the change made.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:31 PM (MbrzC)

370 []That stuff doesn't really give you that much of a boost and it's hard on the engine's parts, or so I've heard.

It doesn't give you any boost. It's less energy dense than gas so you need to burn more to make the same power.
It does have a much higher octane rating = resistance to detonation.
Getting pure gas upto 87, 91, 93, etc. takes more expensive feedstock and/or refining.
All modern car parts are fine with e10?15.

You have to go out of the way to get pure gas now and there's really no point unless you've got an older carb, hi compression motor.


Posted by: DaveA at January 19, 2016 03:32 PM (DL2i+)

371 "Primary deadlines are primary deadlines."

There's a guy on the phone who wants a word. Some guy named Toricelli, who wants to talk about some guy named Lautenberg.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 03:32 PM (iIzG7)

372 If the ethanol plants stop buying, I'll be eating out of a dumpster.

I think the subsidies serve a purpose right now.


Amazing how... flexible people become on welfare and government spending when they feel dependent on it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:32 PM (39g3+)

373 Congress has had a chance to reverse idiotic shower head, toilet, and washing machine laws. They never do. All the little tyrannical nanny state trash that has been imposed they do nothing to fix. They like it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:28 PM (39g3+)


All the 'save water' devices irritate the crap out of me, even worse than the other stuff. Ugh.

Posted by: Lea at January 19, 2016 03:32 PM (lIU4e)

374 The fact that he isn't a conservative, isn't remotely likeable and doesn't even rate as a decent human being will have nothing to do with it, right?

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (OGbEB)

Should be easy to beat in the primaries, then.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 19, 2016 03:32 PM (nFdGS)

375 365 So now it's conservative to support ethanol subsidies, Kelo, Canadian healthcare, etc.

I guess there's no point in having any principles at all.

Posted by: stace at January 19, 2016 03:31 PM (CoX6k)

So says Sarah!

Posted by: Golfman at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (48QDY)

376 Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (OGbEB)

You keep saying that but never explain why he's so popular. And I don't mean in the polls. The man draws crowds that Mitt would've killed for.

If you can't explain that without name calling then you're just whistling past the graveyard as we've seen many do here and in the conservative media.

There's a reason for his popularity and the metrics you use may or may not reflect the actual feelings out there.

Many will not respond truthfully to a poll. Particularly a person to person one. Thus they have to be done carefully and objectively.

Many of the polls that show Trump in the negative are questionable or done by people with known agendas.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (Xo1Rt)

377 Yahoo. has a story about the obama movie that is gonna be shown at the Sundance Festival. Really? It's all about the early years and His meeting Michelle..... Boy I hope it comes to a local theater!

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (/dSsq)

378 Primary deadlines are primary deadlines.

Posted by: Apostate at January 19, 2016 03:29 PM (QzX8V)
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Not in New Jersey.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (MbrzC)

379 369: "Doesn't matter if they like it or not, it comes down to the people willing to pay to keep it the way it is, vs. number of people paying to have the change made."

Until the bread and circuses are in jeopardy, nothing will change.

Know what else won't change?

War. War never changes...

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (4nmNX)

380 367: Define famous please. I'm sure lots of people threw a seven today.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (ucDmr)

381 Trump is filling stadiums while the regular politicians can't pack the TiKi Room at the Holiday Inn.

Somebody must think he's good person.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (Zs4uk)

382 If ethanol is so awesome and necessary it will thrive without tax payer support

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (zOTsN)

383 I'm pretty certain there's a way to take out the Save the World flow reducer in a shower head with minimal effort. Check google.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (4ErVI)

384 Doesn't matter if they like it or not, it comes down to the people willing to pay to keep it the way it is, vs. number of people paying to have the change made.

Yeah, no point in even pretending any politician has honor or integrity

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:34 PM (39g3+)

385 So lemmi git this straight....They are gong to demote Pretreaus but let that scrunt hillary skate?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 03:35 PM (kzdjp)

386 381
Trump is filling stadiums while the regular politicians can't pack the TiKi Room at the Holiday Inn.



Somebody must think he's good person.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (Zs4uk)

I thought there might be something to the he's so entertaining let's just show up and watch him throw people out thing, but no reason to stand in the cold for five hours for that when you can just watch it on youtube and it's just as funny.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:35 PM (4ErVI)

387 It's not that they like all the silly nanny state stuff they've passed. It's just that they don't give a shit about whoever is inconvenienced.

They consider their vote and inoculation against further name calling by the left. That that never happens doesn't seem to get through to them.

Besides they're not the ones who are affected by these laws.

They are above the law and intend to stay there.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:35 PM (Xo1Rt)

388 The fact that he isn't a conservative, isn't remotely likeable and doesn't even rate as a decent human being will have nothing to do with it, right?

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (OGbEB)


Then why does he even have support if he is so awful?

You would think the other candidates would begin their analyses with that question. But to the best of my knowledge no one does that. If you want to break the emotional connection that he has made with his supporters then you first must find out why - if he is so unlikable and so indecent - he has made that emotional connection. Then you have to determine how to break that connection.

If you do not do that all of your arguments are going to fall on deaf ears.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 03:35 PM (hLRSq)

389 Romney had some yuuuuge crowds before he galloped home to victory in 2012 in the alternate universe in which I'm posting.

I like Trump, though, and I like Cruz, and I'd like to see them settle this in the most professional way possible--a 3-way with Sarah. No crossing of swords, of course.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 19, 2016 03:36 PM (hqZPQ)

390 "So on a lighter note:


Anyone famous die today?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis"


Stop looking at me like that.

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at January 19, 2016 03:36 PM (OD2ni)

391 Amazing how... flexible people become on welfare and government spending when they feel dependent on it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:32 PM (39g3+)


Damn straight.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 03:36 PM (Zs4uk)

392 The fact that he isn't a conservative, isn't remotely likeable and doesn't even rate as a decent human being will have nothing to do with it, right?

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (OGbEB)

Should be easy to beat in the primaries, then.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge


Should be reflected in his current poll numbers, no?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:36 PM (ct0K5)

393 Trump is filling stadiums while the regular politicians can't pack the TiKi Room at the Holiday Inn.


He does seem to have something going on, though in fairness, I went to see him and I don't want to vote for him if I have a choice.

Others did seem pretty enthused.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:36 PM (evdj2)

394 389: "No crossing of swords, of course."

So...fingercuffs?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:37 PM (4nmNX)

395 "Some guy named Toricelli, who wants to talk about some guy named Lautenberg."

General election v. primaries. Not the same animal. Also, this would presumably involve multiple states' primary procedures.

The general observation of the lawlessness of liberal courts when their preferred party's power is on the line is noted, however.

Posted by: Apostate at January 19, 2016 03:37 PM (QzX8V)

396 The fact that he isn't a conservative, isn't remotely likeable and doesn't even rate as a decent human being will have nothing to do with it, right?
Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:27 PM (OGbEB)


I'm just going to point out that "conservative" is NOT a selling point, not even in the GOP
Romney?
McCain?
Bush II?
Dole?

Please....Having this party now be so concerned with who is actually conservative seems silly, given the past.
At any rate, who ever is the nominee will be cast as an evil puppy-kicking conservative the day after the convention.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 19, 2016 03:37 PM (kKHcp)

397 "So lemmi git this straight....They are gong to demote Pretreaus but let that scrunt hillary skate?"

"I'm telling you, this guy is protected from on high by the Prince of Darkness himself."

Yes, that's a Usual Suspects reference. No, it has nothing to do with Joseph Lucas.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 03:37 PM (iIzG7)

398 "...it will cause a great amount of embarrassment and outrage when Loretta
Lynch, as planned, refuses to seek an indictment against Hillary."

By which is meant her brain-dead LIV supporters will be outraged that an accomplished women of her stature is treated this way and embarrassed to be a Americans. Only in America could this happen!

Posted by: Rod Serling at January 19, 2016 03:37 PM (1BQGO)

399
You have to go out of the way to get pure gas now and there's really no point unless you've got an older carb, hi compression motor.


Posted by: DaveA at January 19, 2016 03:32 PM (DL2i+)


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I have six gas stations within five minutes from my home that sells no-ethanol gas. A 7/11 about a mile away sells nothing but no-ethanol gas.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 03:39 PM (Fmupd)

400 Wow. The hate is strong with this one. He is not even a decent human being?
Posted by: IC at January 19, 2016 03:29 PM (a0IVu)

I'd say eminent domaining the shit out of homeowners in order to build a fucking limousine garage rates pretty low on the decency scale. So does denying his seriously ill toddler nephew access to monies from his father's (Fred Trump's) estate for medical care--and doing it out of sheer spitebecause of a grudge against his brother. So does making sexual innuendo about his own daughter. So does buying fucking politicians and then even bragging about it. So does bankrupting four fucking times and deliberately screwing your creditors.

Trump is a genuinely bad man and yet some of youpaint him something like the Second Coming. This true believer shit wears thin. Saw it last time with Ron Paul supporters. Seing it now with Trump's.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:39 PM (OGbEB)

401 396: "Please....Having this party now be so concerned with who is actually conservative seems silly, given the past."

I'm stuck with Medved on the ride home from work.

He frequently identifies himself as a conservative.

The term no longer has any meaning. Kind of like the label of racist.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:39 PM (4nmNX)

402 The man draws crowds that Mitt would've killed for.

If you can't explain that without name calling then you're just whistling past the graveyard as we've seen many do here and in the conservative media.


I think he makes people curious, he's a big famous figure, and he's entertaining. Will that translate into votes? We'll see. Remember: Obama pulled virtually no crowds, but he pulled in the votes. Palin pulled in gigantic crowds but lost. I'm not convinced big rallies translate into winning votes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:40 PM (39g3+)

403 Testing

Posted by: Test at January 19, 2016 03:40 PM (LYCUN)

404
The fact that he isn't a conservative, isn't remotely likeable and doesn't even rate as a decent human being will have nothing to do with it, right?
Posted by: troyriser



Then why all the [x]oncern? Someone so obviously icky-poo won't get nominated.

Rest easy.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 03:40 PM (kdS6q)

405 Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 03:37 PM (iIzG7)

Ah yes. The de-lights (heh) of British iron and their electricals.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:40 PM (Xo1Rt)

406 Yeah, no point in even pretending any politician has honor or integrity

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:34 PM (39g3+)
---
I wish it was different, but it's not for the vast majority.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:41 PM (MbrzC)

407 398 "...it will cause a great amount of embarrassment and outrage when Loretta
Lynch, as planned, refuses to seek an indictment against Hillary."

By which is meant her brain-dead LIV supporters will be outraged that an accomplished women of her stature is treated this way and embarrassed to be a Americans. Only in America could this happen!
Posted by: Rod Serling at January 19, 2016 03:37 PM (1BQGO)


So we're tossing the theory that Obama has given Hillary! enough rope to hang the entire Clintonista apparatus, leaving the field clear for him to take over the Democrat party?
They've been pretty clear about kneecapping Cuomo in NY. "You can stay Gov, but don't even look higher"

Posted by: Iblis at January 19, 2016 03:41 PM (9221z)

408 I'm stuck with Medved on the ride home from work.



He frequently identifies himself as a conservative.



The term no longer has any meaning. Kind of like the label of racist.

i tried to listen to him a couple of months ago....painful.....he isn't who he was.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 19, 2016 03:41 PM (0O7c5)

409 Remember: Obama pulled virtually no crowds, but he pulled in the votes.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:40 PM (39g3+)

WTF are you talking about?

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 19, 2016 03:41 PM (nFdGS)

410 >>>>
How about selling your corn for food and feed instead of fuel.
.
.
.
.Then they would lose those yuge government subsidies for Ethanol.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 19, 2016 03:41 PM (iONHu)

411 385 So lemmi git this straight....They are gong to demote Pretreaus but let that scrunt hillary skate?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 03:35 PM (kzdjp)
---

Yes, you understand perfectly.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:41 PM (MbrzC)

412 What this thread needs is a flaming walker.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2016 03:41 PM (FsuaD)

413 "Ah yes. The de-lights (heh) of British iron and their electricals."

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE LUCAS HEADLIGHTS ARE FAMOUS FOR NOT WORKING.

(What??!!?! He's in the off-season now. He needs a hobby.)

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 03:42 PM (iIzG7)

414 407: "So we're tossing the theory that Obama has given Hillary! enough rope to hang the entire Clintonista apparatus..."

If there was such a thing as justice, even of the poetic variety, the C machine would be hit with RICO and lose everything.

The daughter, the father, and the xlotl tank. All of them.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:43 PM (4nmNX)

415 Ethanol subsidies also increase the price of fertilizers and livestock feed. the row crop farmers hate the subsidized crops. Get rid of all subsidies and mandates. The market works.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 19, 2016 03:43 PM (egOGm)

416 You guys are trying to make me go Godwin aren't you?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 03:43 PM (qbqnC)

417 Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:39 PM (OGbEB)

Having no answer to previous and respectfully asked querys, he continues to make his opinions sound as if they're statements of fact.

Keep trying. Eventually you'll find the magic words that will slay this dragon you so fear.

Meanwhile, don't aim that finger at me.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:43 PM (Xo1Rt)

418 and the xlotl tank


I laughed out loud.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:43 PM (evdj2)

419 General election v. primaries. Not the same animal

I found a penumbra

Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at January 19, 2016 03:44 PM (39g3+)

420 It is truly amazing to me that no matter what the thread post is about (Hillary emails etc.) the comments always turn to Trump sux. No he doesn't. Yes he does.

Always.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 19, 2016 03:44 PM (X+nFp)

421
BREAKING: Snooki still thinks Hillz' reported possession of a vagina trumps rampant corruption, fraud, incompetence and illegality.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2016 02:50 PM (8ZskC)
.........................

but suggested that Hillary! should tan more regularly.

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 03:45 PM (HgMAr)

422 Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:39 PM (OGbEB)

He also went bankrupt four times, costing the people at those companies their jobs and livelihoods, and he made fun of a woman for being ugly on national television. You forgot those.

Yeah, guy's a narcissistic asshole. Now let's sic him on DC.

We have fallen off a cliff. You can bitch until we hit the ground or try to grab onto something. It might hurt your hands.

Sorry.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:45 PM (xuouz)

423 Meanwhile, Petraeus faces demotion.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2016 03:45 PM (FsuaD)

424
Trump is a genuinely bad man and yet some of youpaint him something like the Second Coming. This true believer shit wears thin. Saw it last time with Ron Paul supporters. Seing it now with Trump's.
Posted by: troyriser



If you think it will make you feel better, judging from the last thread you're allowed to call Trump supporters/agnostics "c*nts" and get away with it.

Go ahead. Apparently won't get banned for it.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 03:45 PM (kdS6q)

425 WTF are you talking about?

2012. He pulled in big crowds in 2008 but in '12 he was getting small groups. Remember that Stevie Wonder benefit concert for Obama that got like 200 people? Obama didn't draw well in 2012.

Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at January 19, 2016 03:45 PM (39g3+)

426 420 It is truly amazing to me that no matter what the thread post is about (Hillary emails etc.) the comments always turn to Trump sux. No he doesn't. Yes he does.

Always.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 19, 2016 03:44 PM (X+nFp)

No it fucking doesn't.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:45 PM (xuouz)

427 *runs around in a circle shrieking and falls down*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:46 PM (4ErVI)

428 "BREAKING: Snooki still thinks Hillz' reported possession of a vagina
trumps rampant corruption, fraud, incompetence and illegality."


THIS JUST IN: Snooki is the love-child of Elvira, Mistress of the Dark, and an Oompa-Loompa.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 03:46 PM (iIzG7)

429 Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:45 PM (xuouz)

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 19, 2016 03:46 PM (X+nFp)

430 420 It is truly amazing to me that no matter what the thread post is about (Hillary emails etc.) the comments always turn to Trump sux. No he doesn't. Yes he does.

Always.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 19, 2016 03:44 PM (X+nFp)

I had the same thought. And without fail, the usual haters post the same vitriolic comments. It is getting old, and rather sad. Or I suppose once could say they are rather passionate about their candidate of choice.

Posted by: IC at January 19, 2016 03:46 PM (a0IVu)

431 the comments always turn to Trump sux. No he doesn't. Yes he does.

The horses are just restless in the gate. Anxious for the race to start and put paid to all the hype one way or another.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:46 PM (evdj2)

432 We could always discuss what a skeeze Bristol Palin apparently has become instead. That was a winner last thread.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:47 PM (39g3+)

433 So Cruz is against ethanol subsidies in Iowa and he is still leading in some polls? Is his position in Iowa not a strong sign that he can be trusted regardless of the political fallout?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 03:47 PM (qbqnC)

434 Martha Stewart and Scooter Libby went to prison why?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2016 03:47 PM (FsuaD)

435 Jihadi John is dead!

Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (sj3Ax)

436 Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 19, 2016 03:46 PM (X+nFp)

We can have fun while we rip each other's throats out!

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (xuouz)

437 It is truly amazing to me that no matter what the thread post is about (Hillary emails etc.) the comments always turn to Trump sux. No he doesn't. Yes he does.

Always.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 19, 2016 03:44 PM (X+nFp)


That's because we must be saved from our own foolishness by the selfless action of the AoSHQ All-Volunteer Political Life Guards (aka Moron Watch). I am grateful that for all who take time out to continuously remind us of the dangers posed by certain "rip-tide-like" candidates and to use the buddy system when caucusing and only stay within the marked political swim areas of acceptable thought.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (hLRSq)

438 late to the party.

Just why the fuck hasn't she been led away in handcuffs, photographed and fingerprinted?

The double standard in this country reeks to high heaven.

I would type more but I'm afraid of banning

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (voOPb)

439 *runs around in a circle shrieking and falls down*



Get up! Run in the other direction to unwind.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (ct0K5)

440 suppressed flasher.

What's that mean?

You button the bottom buttons on the trench coat?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (Xo1Rt)

441 Should be reflected in his current poll numbers, no?Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:36 PM (ct0K5)

Should be. Isn't. There are a lot of people out there willing to fall for anything. You know the type I'm talking about: the marks, the suckers, the big blank screen crowd that plays a happy ending movie in their tiny little brains wheneversome slick,fast-talkingcharacter comes along andtells them what they want to hear.

Look, you Trump supporters might make this asshole the GOP primary winner and you might even take him all the way to the White House, but don't ever kid yourselves into believing you're supporting a lowlife like Trump for the good of the country. He's nothing more than a protest candidate, and you're doing what you're doingout of spite.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (OGbEB)

442 Always.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 19, 2016 03:44 PM (X+nFp)
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Not always, just most of the time. There were 2 threads the other day where that didn't happen.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:49 PM (MbrzC)

443 "So Cruz is against ethanol subsidies in Iowa and he is still leading in some polls?"

If by "against ethanol subsidies" you mean "he won't buy me a beer," then I'll have to think twice about my support.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 03:49 PM (iIzG7)

444 Are we going to have a wildass-guess prediction thread?

I think Ted wins Iowa, Trump wins NH, Trump wins in SC but it's proportional, Trump wins Florida and Ted wins most of Super Tuesday. I canna see beyond that.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:49 PM (evdj2)

445 Just why the fuck hasn't she been led away in handcuffs, photographed and fingerprinted?

The double standard in this country reeks to high heaven.

I would type more but I'm afraid of banning
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (voOPb)

Banning is the least of your problems...does that answer your question?

Posted by: Fredo DOJ at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (kzdjp)

446 The battle of the two Als.

Sharptoon tweeted that the Oscars were too white. Allen West tweeted back asking if the NBA is too black.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (Nwg0u)

447 I've got Breaking News & France 24 apps both with alerts that Jihadi John killed in airstrike!!
Good News for Today!

Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (sj3Ax)

448 Others speculate that Biden will enter the race late, but I don't know that's realistic. Primary deadlines are primary deadlines.

The convention laughs at your puny primaries. Especially the Dems.

If DWS is still steering that stampede come convention time, Hillary's still on. If not, look out.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (9krrF)

449 Carefully considering various comments here , a convincing case may have been made that the lack of a triple--or even singular--flaming skull....means this Hillary shit is some type of false flag operation.
Flaming skulls, or the lack thereof, mean some thing in the last known refuge of rational man--ie MORON WORLD.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (jagfX)

450 Jihadi John is dead!

Good thing too.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (evdj2)

451 I'm not supporting anyone at the moment. I've said good and bad things about Trump, good and bad things about Cruz, and even some good and bad things about Chris Christie.

I've got nothing but contempt for Jeb Bush, though, so there is that.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (4ErVI)

452 Done for the day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (kzdjp)

453 Martha Stewart and Scooter Libby went to prison why?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2016 03:47 PM (FsuaD)

Because the talked to the police(FBI) without an attorney present.

Just say NO.

Mouthpieces are mouthpieces for a reason. They can say anything and get away with it. A defendant can't.

Let your shylock do the talkin'.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (Xo1Rt)

454 Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (OGbEB)

Sounds like somebody needs a hug.

Alex? Alex the Chick? troyriser needs a hug, is Polly available?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 03:51 PM (hLRSq)

455 438 late to the party.

Just why the fuck hasn't she been led away in handcuffs, photographed and fingerprinted?

The double standard in this country reeks to high heaven.

I would type more but I'm afraid of banning

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (voOPb)
---
Pretty sure you can go off all you want on pols\public people, just not other commenters.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:51 PM (MbrzC)

456 439 *runs around in a circle shrieking and falls down*

Get up! Run in the other direction to unwind.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (ct0K5)

And inhale while making awful horror movie noises?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:51 PM (xuouz)

457 441: "...and you're doing what you're doingout of spite."

So you've beaten your dead horse so much that now you begin to hear what we have been telling you all along?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:51 PM (4nmNX)

458
So Cruz is against ethanol subsidies in Iowa and he is still leading in some polls? Is his position in Iowa not a strong sign that he can be trusted regardless of the political fallout?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky



Weren't you brushed back from the plate on that nuanced "against" a couple of threads ago? If not, "Phase out" and not exactly his original position on the issue.

Also, "Canadian" -- just to make some girls cry.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 03:51 PM (kdS6q)

459 Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:46 PM (evdj2)

That was a nice, sporting way to put it. :^)

The horses may gnaw each others heads off before the race really starts.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 03:52 PM (w4NZ8)

460 452 Done for the day
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (kzdjp)

You're giving up?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:52 PM (xuouz)

461
To: Huma
From: HRC
Subject: Hazelton Penitentiary

H dear, can we get vodka in there?
xoxo
P.S. this Super Duper Top Secret

Posted by: Hillarrhoids at January 19, 2016 03:52 PM (HgMAr)

462 Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (OGbEB)

OH.

So you DO understand then.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:52 PM (Xo1Rt)

463 I'm thinking we are gonna need a flaming helmet hair skull (like the Blago version) for the inevitable Hillary flameout.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 19, 2016 03:06 PM (gyKtp)



Or a flaming walker with martini glass. Don't forget the tennis balls on the walker.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 19, 2016 03:53 PM (GUBah)

464 Jihadi John is dead!
Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (sj3Ax)



Again?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 19, 2016 03:53 PM (kKHcp)

465 "So you've beaten your dead horse so much..."

Hey there! We'll have none of that here. I'm pretty open-minded about a lot of things, but animalistic sadomasochistic necrophilia is where I draw the line.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 03:53 PM (iIzG7)

466 Jihadi John liked Trump.

No he didn't he liked Cruz!

You're a liar, your feet stink and you don't love Jesus!!

You voted for Barky!!!!!

F$%# You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thread Winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 19, 2016 03:53 PM (X+nFp)

467 440
suppressed flasher.

What's that mean?

You button the bottom buttons on the trench coat?


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (Xo1Rt)


Muffler on the dangly bits.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 19, 2016 03:53 PM (3dOE/)

468 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 03:51 PM (kdS6q)

No you guys threw a wild pitch and think it was a strike.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 03:53 PM (qbqnC)

469 He's nothing more than a protest candidate, and you're doing what you're doingout of spite.

Fully admitted. To be honest I do not expect him to be the nominee. I do expect the GOPe to wreck itself trying to get out of the mess they--and let's be honest, this is very much a self-inflicted injury--brought upon themselves.

Trump is the candidate we deserve, just not the one we need right now.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 19, 2016 03:53 PM (9krrF)

470 Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 19, 2016 03:53 PM (X+nFp)

Word for word, even.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 03:54 PM (hLRSq)

471 As some Moron noted before, Trump isn't our candidate, he's our weapon.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:54 PM (evdj2)

472 441
Should be reflected in his current poll numbers, no?Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 03:36 PM (ct0K5)

Should be. Isn't. There are a lot of people out there willing to fall for anything. You know the type I'm talking about: the marks, the suckers, the big blank screen crowd that plays a happy ending movie in their tiny little brains wheneversome slick,fast-talkingcharacter comes along andtells them what they want to hear.

Look, you Trump supporters might make this asshole the GOP primary winner and you might even take him all the way to the White House, but don't ever kid yourselves into believing you're supporting a lowlife like Trump for the good of the country. He's nothing more than a protest candidate, and you're doing what you're doingout of spite.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (OGbEB)


Not enough spittle-flecking with that. I remain unconvinced.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 19, 2016 03:54 PM (3dOE/)

473 As a technical nit, a SAP is not a level of classification. Think of it is a X-Y matrix. On the Y axis you have classification levels, of which there are three: Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret. On the X axis you have compartments reflecting a need to know. SAPs can be for a category of information such as Signals Intelligence, a project such as a next-generation aircraft, or a specific clandestine operation. Access to these compartments, is administered separately from the overall classification level. Within a particular SAP, information can be classified at any of the three levels. There isn't anything to prevent Confidential information, the lowest level of classification that is still classified, from being included in a SAP.

Posted by: Another Kansan at January 19, 2016 03:54 PM (ELTuo)

474 So you've beaten your dead horse so much that now you begin to hear what we have been telling you all along?Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:51 PM (4nmNX)

Right. I couldn't follow the logic because Imissed that whole'losing is winning' strategic aspect. Gotcha.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:54 PM (OGbEB)

475 I've got nothing but contempt for Jeb Bush, though, so there is that.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:50 PM (4ErVI)


I don't waste my contempt on that POS

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 03:55 PM (kzdjp)

476 So you've beaten your dead horse so much that now you begin to hear what we have been telling you all along?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:51 PM (4nmNX)
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Progress

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 03:55 PM (MbrzC)

477 471: "As some Moron noted before, Trump isn't our candidate, he's our weapon."

His name is a killing word.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:55 PM (4nmNX)

478 He's nothing more than a protest candidate, and you're doing what you're doingout of spite.
Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (OGbEB)

The first vote hasn't been cast yet. And his support isn't coming from long-time traditional "conservatives".

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 19, 2016 03:55 PM (kKHcp)

479 OneEyedJack,
France 24 & Breaking News app both have it.

Has he already been reported dead? If so, maybe he's successor?

Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 03:55 PM (sj3Ax)

480
Jihadi John is dead!
.............

Aw crap, I was gonna interview him next week.

Posted by: Sean Penn at January 19, 2016 03:55 PM (HgMAr)

481 Not enough spittle-flecking with that. I remain unconvinced.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 19, 2016 03:54 PM (3dOE/)

I don't need 'spittle-flecking' and 'Sandra Fluke' in my head at the same time, thanks.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:56 PM (OGbEB)

482 If so, maybe he's successor?


He's like the Dread Pirate Roberts.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:56 PM (evdj2)

483 Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 19, 2016 03:53 PM (9krrF)

We;ll; said.

And BTW, how are feeling?. Recovered from your procedure or still feeling crummy?l

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 03:56 PM (w4NZ8)

484 Just for the record and for the 100th time, if I 10% of what hillary did with my Emails, my ass would be thrown the fuck out of the Navy AFTER serving time in a brig

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 03:56 PM (kzdjp)

485 At least I'm not wearing hockey pads, schmuck.

Posted by: Trump at January 19, 2016 03:56 PM (VdICR)

486 Look, you Trump supporters might make this asshole the GOP primary winner and you might even take him all the way to the White House, but don't ever kid yourselves into believing you're supporting a lowlife like Trump for the good of the country. He's nothing more than a protest candidate, and you're doing what you're doing out of spite.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (OGbEB)

We got through.

Everybody take 5, I'm going to get beer.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:57 PM (xuouz)

487 474: "Right. I couldn't follow the logic because Imissed that whole'losing is winning' strategic aspect. Gotcha."

What exactly is winning?

I'll be willing to lay long odds that your idea of "winning" will never come. Regardless of who wins an election.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:57 PM (4nmNX)

488 By the way I am boycotting the NBA because of the lack of White MVPs and and players

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 03:57 PM (kzdjp)

489 Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (OGbEB)


----------------


Your rants are becoming so tiresome that I might vote for Trump just to spite you.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 03:57 PM (Fmupd)

490
Look, you Trump supporters might make this asshole the GOP primary winner and you might even take him all the way to the White House, but don't ever kid yourselves into believing you're supporting a lowlife like Trump for the good of the country. He's nothing more than a protest candidate, and you're doing what you're doingout of spite.
Posted by: troyriser




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1L3URogjWI

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 03:58 PM (kdS6q)

491 423 Meanwhile, Petraeus faces demotion.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2016 03:45 PM (FsuaD)


They tell you who their real enemies are.

Posted by: Iblis at January 19, 2016 03:58 PM (9221z)

492 Your rants are becoming so tiresome that I might vote for Trump just to spite you.
Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 03:57 PM (Fmupd)

Just give me a minute, I've got a good pro-Trump rant brewing that could sway you back the other way

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:58 PM (xuouz)

493 He's nothing more than a protest candidate, and you're doing what you're doingout of spite.

At this point, its the best we can hope for. Someone to kick over the apple cart and run around naked smearing yams all over their bodies while the elites all recoil in horror.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:58 PM (39g3+)

494 http://tinyurl.com/j56cydt

Link from France 24.

Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 03:59 PM (sj3Ax)

495 Hillary Clinton is the physical embodiment of modern feminism in all its self-absorbed narcissism and irrational leftist hypocrisy. Allowing her to go jail would be like throwing feminism itself in jail. The femi-nazis will not let this happen.

Posted by: Rod Serling at January 19, 2016 03:59 PM (1BQGO)

496 @ torquewrench
I too have speculated that Deval Patrick will be Obama's choice, maybe as Biden's VP with a deal that Joey only does one term.

In many ways Partick is what Obama pretended to be: the poor child of a single African-American mother who grew up in Southside Chicago before going to Harvard and Harvard Law.

Axelrod ran Patrick's campaign to be Massachusetts governor, which became the model for how to run Obama for the Presidency.

I don't know of any other personal connection between the two. Usually there is to be in Obama's inner inner circle.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2016 03:59 PM (r1fLd)

497 While I am prepared to vote for Trump vs. Hillary or Bernie, it makes no sense that people have projected onto him what they want to see like the Luap Nor folks did with LN (the only man who can save America). It's also what the obama fans did with obama.
There seems to be some fantasy that a white knight will come along and fix everything. Trump isn't Conservative and even as president what he can do is limited. lus you know the GOPe and Dems will fight him tooth and nail.

So if you like Trump fine, but please stop acting like he's some kind of superman.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 19, 2016 03:59 PM (uhftQ)

498 Your rants are becoming so tiresome that I might vote for Trump just to spite you.Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 03:57 PM (Fmupd)

You've been thought-fellating Trump for weeks now. Don't think you need spite as a motivation to do it some more.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:59 PM (OGbEB)

499 Someone to kick over the apple cart and run around naked smearing yams all over their bodies


Rule 34.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 03:59 PM (evdj2)

500 With no disrespect to anyone in a later state (NJ votes don't make a darn bit of difference)( when are the most important primaries-SuperTuesday or whatever it's called over.?

I'm hoping millions of dollars will just magically float into my lap so that I have a good excuse to go a vacation and not look at any political news until we actually have a nominee.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 03:59 PM (w4NZ8)

501 383 I'm pretty certain there's a way to take out the Save the World flow reducer in a shower head with minimal effort. Check google.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (4ErVI)

Oh, yes, I removed them from all our shower heads. One annoying thing is that they were all different, so I had to figure out each one, but I did it and we all know I'm not all that bright.

Posted by: stace at January 19, 2016 03:59 PM (CoX6k)

502 Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:54 PM (OGbEB)


Must be great to be so righteous. (or is it self righteous?)


How does it feel to be so smart?

You must be rich right? Cause someone as smart as you indicate by your words must be rolling in dough. Unless of course you're a monk who gives it all away to the poor.

Neither of those? Why then, you must be just like us ordinary folks. Making mistakes, bad judgments and fcuking up now and then.

I try not to make my opinion sound as if any one who doesn't agree with me is a mouth breathing cousin humper.

Apparently you don't have those self imposed limits.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 04:00 PM (Xo1Rt)

503 477 471: "As some Moron noted before, Trump isn't our candidate, he's our weapon."

His name is a killing word.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 03:55 PM (4nmNX)


Maud Trump?

Posted by: Iblis at January 19, 2016 04:00 PM (9221z)

504 >> Done for the day

Ace did good work while he was here, though.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 04:00 PM (b99VK)

505 And, to the Horde who've called for Trump to be the weapon of the GOP's demise ( I admit to being at least half on board for that), perhaps it is time to figure out what the post-Trump GOP will look like, or even if there will be one.

I predict Trump as the nominee. For better or worse, it's him.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 19, 2016 04:01 PM (kKHcp)

506 Hillary should be in jail.

Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 04:01 PM (sj3Ax)

507 And BTW, how are feeling?. Recovered from your procedure or still feeling crummy?l

Much better, thanks! The Annoying Tube In Question was removed without incident yesterday morning and I'm back to my normal routine.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 19, 2016 04:01 PM (9krrF)

508 497: "There seems to be some fantasy that a white knight will come along and fix everything."

You must not have been listening.

I know of no one who believes he will fix anything.

We merely want him to destroy the GOPe.

That is all.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 04:01 PM (4nmNX)

509 Look, you Trump supporters might make this asshole the GOP primary winner and you might even take him all the way to the White House, but don't ever kid yourselves into believing you're supporting a lowlife like Trump for the good of the country. He's nothing more than a protest candidate, and you're doing what you're doing out of spite.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (OGbEB)


I'm not a Trump supporter, but have you ever considered taking that course about 'How to win friends and Influence people"?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 04:01 PM (kzdjp)

510 Isn't march when super tuesday is?

Just about any primaries after that aren't much use UNLESS there's a problem at the convention.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 04:01 PM (Xo1Rt)

511 Can someone pass me the popcorn, please?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 19, 2016 04:01 PM (NeFrd)

512
Hillary vs Cruz. Cruz
Hillary vs Trump. Trump
Hillary vs Ham Sandwich. Ham Sandwich.
Hillary vs Jeb. Aw fark it I'm stayin' home.

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 04:01 PM (HgMAr)

513 Regardless of the mountain of evidence against Hillary, all that Loretta Lynch has to do is put on a smug smile. Same for Obama. Their smug, "Kiss it, haters!" attitude will be supported by the MSM.

Posted by: Chas at January 19, 2016 04:02 PM (l7KgR)

514 Has anyone noticed the "Canadian" kerfluffle over Cruz hasn't been mentioned today? Haven't heard a word of it on FNC either. Funny that.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 04:02 PM (Fmupd)

515 503: "Maud Trump?"

Kwisatz Hairderach.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 04:02 PM (4nmNX)

516 What many do not realize is that a "poison pill" was placed on Hillary's server in the event that foreign intelligence services hacked it. Amongst all of the raw data are videos of Hillary doing yoga, in tight yoga pants. with plenty of gratuitous shot angles.

You're all welcome.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 04:02 PM (hLRSq)

517 Bristol became pregnant a week or two after giving birth December 23.

Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 04:03 PM (sj3Ax)

518 492
Your rants are becoming so tiresome that I might vote for Trump just to spite you.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 03:57 PM (Fmupd)



Just give me a minute, I've got a good pro-Trump rant brewing that could sway you back the other way

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 03:58 PM (xuouz)


On the topic, I am trying to get the wife on the Trump train. Videos and other ideas.

She presently likes Rubio, but I think she can be reached.


I already played the "take their coats" and "don't pay the mic guy" videos. Other ideas?

I frankly cannot tell why she likes Rubio, but we don't get a lot of time to talk with two under four years old.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 19, 2016 04:03 PM (3dOE/)

519 Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 04:01 PM (4nmNX)

I think you are in the minority as Trump supporters go.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (qbqnC)

520 I thought Jihadi John was the Senator from Arizona who advocated for the Syrian "moderates'?

Posted by: Adironack Patriot at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (KCQo0)

521 Bristol became pregnant a week or two after giving birth December 23.
Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 04:03 PM (sj3Ax)

So?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (kzdjp)

522 The Palins are a fruitful bough.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (evdj2)

523 And, to the Horde who've called for Trump to be the weapon of the GOP's demise ( I admit to being at least half on board for that), perhaps it is time to figure out what the post-Trump GOP will look like, or even if there will be one.

There won't be. Or rather the GOP as we have known it will cease to be. There will be a nationalist party and an internationalist party. Conservatism has, sadly, lost the argument for now--our task is to find a way to find a way to reshape the landscape such that we can re-emerge, someday. In other words: Exactly what the Left did.

Anyone who thinks a single election, or several elections, or the electoral process in general can get us out of this mess clearly has no idea how we got into it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (9krrF)

524 I'm pretty certain there's a way to take out the Save the World flow reducer in a shower head with minimal effort

You can buy some that advertise a "removable" flow restriction device as well, wink, wink.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (39g3+)

525 Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 19, 2016 04:01 PM (9krrF

Glad to hear you're tubeless and back to your regular routine.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (w4NZ8)

526 "There seems to be some fantasy that a white knight will come along and fix everything."

You must not have been listening.

I know of no one who believes he will fix anything.

We merely want him to destroy the GOPe.

That is all.
Posted by: Azenogoth



THIS!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (ct0K5)

527 Note.... in a thread about Hillary's crimes...

Some on here are calling Trump supporters stupid...

and then they wonder WHY the GOP is now laughed at by many.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (f7rv6)

528 521 Bristol became pregnant a week or two after giving birth December 23.
Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 04:03 PM (sj3Ax)


Seriously?

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (/dSsq)

529 495 Hillary Clinton is the physical embodiment of modern feminism in all its self-absorbed narcissism and irrational leftist hypocrisy. Allowing her to go jail would be like throwing feminism itself in jail. The femi-nazis will not let this happen.
Posted by: Rod Serling at January 19, 2016 03:59 PM (1BQGO)

I was at a brunch this weekend with neighbors and this one girl (she's actually early 30s I think, but she's cute) revealed herself to be an uber feminist of the worst order. She has a whiteboard on her fridge with Obama and McCain's 2008 electoral vote totals tallied. She has never erased it.

She said she'd never watch The Revenant because there's a rape in it, and then within 30 seconds was talking about how awful David Cameron is for saying he'd deport Muslim women who don't learn English. "Just women" she said, with this look on her face like I should jump out the window in horror. Then she mentioned later while discussing some other movie (Olympus has Fallen? I don't care) that it was about the white house blowing up and "American was destroyed and everything was better."

But it wasn't until right before we left that I realized how bad she really had it. She said she thinks of herself as being "a lot like Hillary." She does live by herself with two cats. And unless she can change her mind she'll never have anybody.

I scored major points with Ms. Ghost for keeping my mouth shut throughout that entire party.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (xuouz)

530 Bristol is one fertile chick, no? She just has to get downwind of a young man to get pregnant.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (r1fLd)

531 519: "I think you are in the minority as Trump supporters go."

That is entirely possible.

I detest the actual man. But I think he as a candidate is necessary.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (4nmNX)

532 What many do not realize is that a "poison pill" was placed on Hillary's server in the event that foreign intelligence services hacked it. Amongst all of the raw data are videos of Hillary doing yoga, in tight yoga pants. with plenty of gratuitous shot angles.

If you dig too deeply, you find the naked "Aerobacize" videos.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (39g3+)

533 Much better, thanks! The Annoying Tube In Question was removed without incident yesterday morning and I'm back to my normal routine.



Fap on dude!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (ct0K5)

534 How did AoS end up with vitriolic pro-Jeb! anti-Trump, obscenity spewing, unbanned commenters?

Ace turned establishment?

Posted by: Sarah Pal-in at January 19, 2016 04:06 PM (fbovC)

535 522
The Palins are a fruitful bough.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor
with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (evdj2)

Coming soon...
The Palins versus The Duggars!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 04:06 PM (4ErVI)

536 Coming soon...
The Palins versus The Duggars!


Mud wrestling?

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 04:06 PM (/dSsq)

537 I already played the "take their coats" and "don't pay the mic guy" videos. Other ideas?

I frankly cannot tell why she likes Rubio, but we don't get a lot of time to talk with two under four years old.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 19, 2016 04:03 PM (3dOE/)

Show her the video of Trump giving a helicopter ride to the kid, and show her Ivanka's new radio ad.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 04:06 PM (xuouz)

538 Off to snow blow the driveway.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 04:07 PM (4ErVI)

539 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (kzdjp)

So Sarah Palin used her daughter to diss Ted Cruz. A daughter who has had three unplanned pregnancies. Pretty hard to ignore.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 04:07 PM (qbqnC)

540 Trump's hair is more luxurious than Kyle MacLachlan in 1984.

Somebody get Hillary a floating pantsuit.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 19, 2016 04:07 PM (VdICR)

541 Sean Penn,
Go to Syria to interview another IS fighter.
We can't wait.

Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 04:07 PM (sj3Ax)

542 If I may be so bold...

My candidate is Cruz. That's my truth-in-advertizing disclaimer right there. Is he perfect? No, but he's closest to what I believe in politically. Did he change his stance on some issues? Some say yes, some no. I'm not going to let the perfect become the enemy of the good. The only way I could get a candidate who would agree with me on everything, and who I could trust completely, would be to run myself. I'm a crappy fundraiser, as my checkbook will gladly testify, and I'm more insulting and abrasive than Trump, and I figure there's at least ten, maybe fifteen percent of you that wouldn't vote for me in the primary if I did run.

So, I'm backing Cruz, and I can do it without holding my nose.

There are days when I tell myself that if Trump gets the nomination, I'll sit this one out in November. He's a big-government guy. He wants single-payor medical. And he suffers from Ross Perot syndrome: the belief that as President, he could simply tell everyone in Congress what he wants and why it's the best for all concerned, and they'd all be persuaded.

And there are other days: days when I tell myself that if Cruz doesn't get the nomination, and it's going to be Trump, then I'll vote vote him, if only because I'm shooting for a sixty-five yard field goal and teeing up the GOP-e's nuts for the kick. I know better than to think I'd be getting a doctrinaire movement conservative out of him. I'd be voting for him out of spite, and I might feel good about that in the morning, too.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 04:07 PM (iIzG7)

543 Anyone who thinks a single election, or several elections, or the electoral process in general can get us out of this mess clearly has no idea how we got into it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (9krrF)


Yup... Trump is the Let it Burn candidate...

He is SMOD incarnate...

Some of us wish to tear it down now, while we still have some FREEDOM to fix it... before the GOPe and Dems take ALL of our Freedoms, and Rights... and replace us with Foreigners...

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 04:07 PM (f7rv6)

544 534 How did AoS end up with vitriolic pro-Jeb! anti-Trump, obscenity spewing, unbanned commenters?

Ace turned establishment?
Posted by: Sarah Pal-in at January 19, 2016 04:06 PM (fbovC)

Leaving a light on at night over a rotting barrel of paint thinner and fermenting hobo bits attracts all sorts of unsavory characters.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 04:07 PM (xuouz)

545 You are kidding when You say Bristol Palin is pregnant again right?

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 04:08 PM (/dSsq)

546
But first ...

Posted by: the driveway at January 19, 2016 04:08 PM (2WoCi)

547 I suspect women are less likely to get pregnant if they stop humping random dudes.

but 2 weeks after giving birth? Ouch?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 04:08 PM (39g3+)

548 " . . . perhaps it is time to figure out what the post-Trump GOP will look like, or even if there will be one."
_______________________

How about a post-Jeb GOP? What will that look like?

How about a post-Rubio GOP? What will that look like?

Will there even be one? Probably not. After Bush 43, there was no Republican Party. Only the Tea Party that saved the GOP that they now condemn.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2016 04:08 PM (KCQo0)

549 A new recession deserves a new thread.

Nood

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2016 04:08 PM (8ZskC)

550 So Sarah Palin used her daughter to diss Ted Cruz. A daughter who has had three unplanned pregnancies. Pretty hard to ignore.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 04:07 PM (qbqnC)


How did she do that? And when did Bristol palin become a target? For what purpose? some people have way to much time on their hands, to much hate , to much misdirected hate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 04:08 PM (kzdjp)

551 Off to snow blow the driveway.


Is that like Arresting the Riddler?

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 04:09 PM (evdj2)

552 Look, you Trump supporters might make this asshole the GOP primary winner and you might even take him all the way to the White House, but don't ever kid yourselves into believing you're supporting a lowlife like Trump for the good of the country. He's nothing more than a protest candidate, and you're doing what you're doing out of spite.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 03:48 PM (OGbEB)

bit.ly/23cYsmU

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 04:09 PM (xuouz)

553 Trump's hair is more luxurious than Kyle MacLachlan in 1984.

Somebody get Hillary a floating pantsuit.


To be fair, this entire electoral fustercluck is certainly taking on the vibe of a David Lynch joint.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 19, 2016 04:09 PM (9krrF)

554 or even if there will be one.
---
Hopefully not.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 04:09 PM (MbrzC)

555

If you dig too deeply, you find the naked "Aerobacize" videos.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (39g3+)


--------------------


Worse - Nude jazzercise.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 04:09 PM (Fmupd)

556 Qoheleth
I'm backing Cruz too.

Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 04:09 PM (sj3Ax)

557 Trump's hair is more luxurious than Kyle MacLachlan in 1984.

Kyle's hair was actually well-carved mahogany.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 04:09 PM (39g3+)

558 Some of us wish to tear it down now, while we still have some FREEDOM to fix it... before the GOPe and Dems take ALL of our Freedoms, and Rights... and replace us with Foreigners...



Freedom and age. I want to do it now at 53-54.
NOT when I'm 73.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 04:10 PM (ct0K5)

559 Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 04:02 PM (hLRSq)

News Flash:

Millions of Chinese Military Men have been admitted to hospitals all over the country with retinal and corneal injuries.

Authorities are unable to speak to the cause at this time.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 04:10 PM (Xo1Rt)

560 We merely want him to destroy the GOPe. That is all. Posted by: Azenogoth THIS!
Posted by: rickb223

Still a white knight with a type of fix.
I would also say you don't pay attention to other Trump supporters who claim he'll get the wall built, how he will fire people, etc.
Oh, and I an not calling anyone stupid. Guilty of wishful thinking, yes.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at January 19, 2016 04:10 PM (uhftQ)

561 Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (f7rv6)

I haven't but I'm curious, what would you call Jeb supporters?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 04:10 PM (qbqnC)

562 530 Bristol is one fertile chick, no? She just has to get downwind of a young man to get pregnant.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (r1fLd)





That's three by three different guys?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2016 04:10 PM (vgIRn)

563 Worse - Nude jazzercise.

It could have been prancercize.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 04:11 PM (39g3+)

564 I try not to make my opinion sound as if any one who doesn't agree with me is a mouth breathing cousin humper.

Apparently you don't have those self imposed limits.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 04:00 PM (Xo1Rt)


Must admit I don't try hard to disguise my contempt for those looking for a Dear Leader or a daddy surrogateor--worse--a vicarious fantasy life. Tell me,, doyou imagine yourself livingTrump's life, rolling in dough, flying around in a private jet, married to his beautiful supermodel wife?

As an aside, I've been called all sorts of names on this forum since the 'new policy', pretty much exclusively by Trump supporters, so if you're implying lack of civility on my part, look to yourselves.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 04:11 PM (OGbEB)

565 That's three by three different guys?

She's really pregnant?The logistics of that are mind boggling....

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 04:11 PM (/dSsq)

566 Is Palin the secret Trump supporter? Is Palin relevant at this point? She's made a ton of money from selling herself to television shows & that's fine but it makes her irrelevant to me.

Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 04:12 PM (sj3Ax)

567 New threads.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 04:12 PM (hLRSq)

568 521
Bristol became pregnant a week or two after giving birth December 23.

Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 04:03 PM (sj3Ax)



So?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (kzdjp)


That's hot.

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 19, 2016 04:12 PM (3dOE/)

569 I saw that Hilz got the coveted LBGT endorsement!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 19, 2016 04:12 PM (7lqMl)

570 Holy crap, Bristol Palin reproduces like that alien girl in the sci-fi movie "Species".

Or Robert Kennedy's wife (Ethel Skakel Kennedy) back in the 1960s.

I don't know what scares me more.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2016 04:12 PM (KCQo0)

571 Millions of Chinese Military Men have been admitted to hospitals all over the country with retinal and corneal injuries.

Rather than admit what they had seen, they claimed to have had a contest staring at the sun as long as possible.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)

572 I frankly cannot tell why she likes Rubio, but we don't get a lot of time to talk with two under four years old.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 19, 2016 04:03 PM (3dOE/)
----
Because he looks pretty, and he says pretty things, that those things don't check out or in some cases are suicidal probably don't matter too her, but in the off chance they do you could bring them up.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 04:13 PM (MbrzC)

573 Prosecute her.

Posted by: Feh at January 19, 2016 04:13 PM (/7QNF)

574 I'm surprised more people don't give up their high paying jobs, expose their families to insults and ridicule an jump into politics for the good of mankind.

All they have to do is read a few blogs like this to know that we, the politically aware, will have their backs no matter what.

Because we care.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 04:13 PM (Zs4uk)

575 Prosecute her.

Bristol?

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 04:13 PM (/dSsq)

576 Freedom and age. I want to do it now at 53-54.
NOT when I'm 73.


Word. I'm almost 45 now. I'd like to have a shot at dying when things are starting to come back to sanity. That's not going to happen if we keep doing things the same way over and over. I'd rather take the gamble now than accept the sure loss.

When you're damned if you do,
And damned if you don't,
Do it, damn it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 19, 2016 04:14 PM (9krrF)

577 Bristol became pregnant a week or two after giving birth December 23.
Posted by: Carol at January 19, 2016 04:03 PM (sj3Ax)

Has anyone confirmed with Andrew Sullivan if that's even possible?

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 19, 2016 04:14 PM (nFdGS)

578 571 Millions of Chinese Military Men have been admitted to hospitals all over the country with retinal and corneal injuries.
__________________________

Maybe if they squint.

No, wait. . . uhhh. . . nevermind.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2016 04:14 PM (KCQo0)

579 So we can assume the Russians, Norks, Chicoms, mollahs, and drug lords all have access to this SAP information.

Fucking unreal.

Posted by: Feh at January 19, 2016 04:14 PM (/7QNF)

580 561 Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 04:05 PM (f7rv6)

I haven't but I'm curious, what would you call Jeb supporters?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 04:10 PM (qbqnC)


Call them? Nothing.... Jeb is not my guy but I would not call them stupid.

Its a self defeating argument....

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 04:15 PM (f7rv6)

581 Bristol Palin gets pregnant from a stiff breeze.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 19, 2016 04:16 PM (KCQo0)

582 You 'rons go from 0 to 500 posts before I can walk to the jon & back.

To recapitulate several points about which I believe all reasonable posters can agree; Trump sux AND he's unelectable.

The sux part has been sufficiently extrapolated already. He's a lifelong liberal who claims to have had a complete conversion that would dwarf Saul of Tarsus if it was sincere.

As for unelectable, his name rec is the same as HRC-- about 95%. His net unfavorability is jaw dropping, which is how he loses to an elderly socialist by 15 points.

If uu

Posted by: mnw at January 19, 2016 04:19 PM (t3oNG)

583 Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 04:11 PM (OGbEB)

Ah. The old you did it first excuse.

Hey. Whatever floats you're boat. But you're not changing anyone's minds with the way you go about it.

So all you're really doing is either hoping that you're right so you can go "I told you so" with a smirk or you're so angry about the situation that has brought about this series of events and the participants and don't want to acknowledge that you and others like you might have played a part in the reasons for Trumps rise so you accuse US as being shills and spoilers. And then claim that your name calling is in reaction to others name calling you.

Got it.

So why do you keep repeating the same old mantra?

You should know by now it's working and it's not going to work and especially not the way you're going about it.

That's what we used to call pissing into the wind.

You're the one getting wet.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 04:19 PM (Xo1Rt)

584 If u have 95% name rec & skyhigh negative unfavorability, how is gonna improve THAT?

Posted by: mnw at January 19, 2016 04:21 PM (t3oNG)

585 Uh, uhhhh.

The building is on fire.

I said, "Whaa"

She said "Yeah."

Not to-day.

Posted by: Black Woman In Apartment Fire at January 19, 2016 04:21 PM (KCQo0)

586 Confirmed on Drudge that it's Palin endorsing him.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 04:23 PM (4ErVI)

587 572
I frankly cannot tell why she likes Rubio, but we don't get a lot of time to talk with two under four years old.



Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 19, 2016 04:03 PM (3dOE/)

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Because he looks pretty, and he says pretty things, that those things don't check out or in some cases are suicidal probably don't matter too her, but in the off chance they do you could bring them up.





Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 04:13 PM (MbrzC)


She is smart and is probably more conservative than I. But she actually said the immigration thing (gang of 8 ding) did not matter to her. I brought up H1Bs, but like I said, not much time to explore.

She values security, fiscal and national, but I think we have differing perceptions as to exactly how far along the slide we are and how little difference there is between dems and dem-lite.

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 19, 2016 04:24 PM (3dOE/)

588 Tell me,, doyou imagine yourself livingTrump's life,
rolling in dough, flying around in a private jet, married to his
beautiful supermodel wife?

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 04:11 PM (OGbEB)

No. But I think that YOU do.

And thus the unquenchable anger at the appearance that he will not only have all that you don't but that he will gain the Presidency too.

It's just too much for you isn't it? He didn't work for any of those rewards did he? Not like you. You've worked so hard all your life and here you are arguing with an anonymous doufus (your opinion) on a blog on the internet.

Surely you have better things to do? I don't. Because I'm comfortable (and not in mom's basement. She's been dead for years) and pretty much do what I want most days.

And that suits me fine after 50 years of hard work and putting up with a lot of crap from opinionated know nothings who believe that a degree or a metal pin gives them the automatic blessing of knowledge greater than others and judgment better than Solomon's. (agreed they may have those qualities but it wasn't the degree or the in that bestowed that on them)

So, no. I don't begrudge Trump one cent or situation. Nor do I wish to have his life, as it appears to the uninitiated.

Try again.

But I've found most them couldn't shine most homeless guys shoes as far as wisdom and righteousness.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 04:28 PM (Xo1Rt)

589 somehow one sentence got in front of another.

But I've found most them couldn't shine most homeless guys shoes as far as wisdom and righteousness.

So, no. I don't begrudge Trump one cent or situation. Nor do I wish to have his life, as it appears to the uninitiated.

Try again.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 04:31 PM (Xo1Rt)

590 AND NO BURNING SKULL???
WE NEED TO SEE THE BURN.
LIB. As in #letitburn

Posted by: DefendUSA at January 19, 2016 04:34 PM (nAHMK)

591
For your ethanol-free gas needs.

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 19, 2016 04:38 PM (j4wsR)

592 Hillary will do time for betraying her country about the same time Bill does time for rape. Welcome to the 1 percent of the 1 percent.

Posted by: Lyle Bert at January 19, 2016 04:38 PM (j8YPS)

593 "The lock is in."
Vote for Bernie if your state allows it in the primaries (only!) and very shamelessly: more Socialism is better, RITE?
They warned that this election could be like 30+ years ago when the DNC went crazy by fronting far left McGovern, and then Nixon got elected instead.
Lote for "indépendant" Bernie in the prinmary as Ted or Trump will win anyway (so you vote doesn't count) and who cares- it will sort itself out: BRING US THE BERNIE!!!!
(Insert 1 (or more) "Flaming Skull" Anim-Gifs here.)

Posted by: MoJoTee at January 19, 2016 04:45 PM (aR8Ih)

594 Ross Perot syndrome: the belief that as President, he could simply tell everyone in Congress what he wants and why it's the best for all concerned, and they'd all be persuaded.
...

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I'd call that the Obama syndrome

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 04:45 PM (MbrzC)

595 She values security, fiscal and national, but I think we have differing perceptions as to exactly how far along the slide we are and how little difference there is between dems and dem-lite.

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 19, 2016 04:24 PM (3dOE/)
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Well then if you've lost her over immigration then realistically the security and fiscal issues aren't going to matter, so maybe just take your loses and hope Rubio isn't doing well when it comes to your primary state.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 04:55 PM (MbrzC)

596 Hey, don't wanna break up the bubble, but just a small but important detail: there is no classification above top secret. None.

HOWEVER, you can go "sideways" all you want because access is determined by need-to-know. Classification only assigns a level of threat. Top Secret is "exceptionally grave and serious" harm to national security.

Compartments, which are Special Access Programs, go sideways. They determine "need to know." It is entirely possible and common for material to be confidential or secret and still be inaccessible to a top secret clearance holder because they /also/ don't hold access to the SAP in question.

And finally, SCIs are a series of intelligence SAPs. They are established as a blanket SAP family and have a special delegation of authority to the ODNI.

Clear as mud?

Posted by: ctwelve at January 19, 2016 05:34 PM (JJcf1)

597 I know thanks to lapdog media narrative conditioning everyone always goes for the "N" word - Nixon, but really the whole clinton crime family and associated tsouris is pure LBJ. And LBJ was a hundred times worse than Nixon is ever alleged to have been.

Posted by: Flying Tiger Comics at January 19, 2016 06:23 PM (M6NXW)

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