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Sarah Palin: Boy That Ted Cruz Sure Is Unlikable Isn't He?

There's a lot of speculation that Palin is Trump's mystery special guest in Des Moines, Iowa, today, including this bit of chartered airplane route detective work.

In response, Cruz' spokesmen -- not Cruz -- said they'd be "deeply disappointed" in Palin if she did endorse Trump, then offered reasons for such (hypothetical) disappointment.

It was pretty mild stuff, really -- all about Trump's lack of conservative bona fides, and not about Palin.

But of course Palin has to take everything hyper-personally because, as the Scorpion said, that's her nature, so now we have this...


...with Sarah Palin linking her daughter Bristol's post attacking Ted Cruz for his lack of loyalty or whatever to the woman who's about to endorse his rival.

Palin's "Cruz is unlikable" line just happens to mirror a Trump slam:

"I don't think Ted Cruz has a great chance, to be honest with you," Trump told ABC News Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos in an interview on “This Week” Sunday. "Look, the truth is, he's a nasty guy. He was so nice to me. I mean, I knew it. I was watching. I kept saying, 'Come on Ted. Let's go, okay.' But he's a nasty guy. Nobody likes him. Nobody in Congress likes him. Nobody likes him anywhere once they get to know him. He's a very –- he's got an edge that's not good. You can't make deals with people like that and it's not a good thing. It's not a good thing for the country. Very nasty guy."

I mean, that is basically the exact same thing Palin is claiming -- Cruz appeared to be nice, but wow, what an unlikable guy.

Nobody likes him, you know.

I think this all kind of cinches this deal up nice and neat -- yes, Palin will be endorsing Trump.

Posted by: Ace at 01:00 PM




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1 oy

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:00 PM (qSIlh)

2 a shake my head moment, I think

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:01 PM (qSIlh)

3 I don't think either of them should be fighting for her endorsement

Posted by: Tobasco at January 19, 2016 01:02 PM (I+qVZ)

4 I guess no cabinet post for Sarah in the Cruz administration.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:02 PM (rwI+c)

5 Are we still going to talk about boners in this thread?

Posted by: Furious George at January 19, 2016 01:02 PM (3GAnN)

6 Her 15 minutes should have run out a long time ago.

Posted by: brak at January 19, 2016 01:02 PM (xwPSp)

7 So does this mean Sarah is now on conservative blacklists?

Posted by: bubba at January 19, 2016 01:03 PM (KXAvu)

8 BOO-yah

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2016 01:03 PM (8ZskC)

9 OK. Now we just have to wait for the coveted Christine O'Donnell endorsement.

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 19, 2016 01:03 PM (OD2ni)

10 I will note that preemptively bitching about it was a real bonehead move by Ted's spokeshole.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:03 PM (rwI+c)

11 What difference at this point would it make?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 19, 2016 01:04 PM (FkBIv)

12 I used to like Palin;she's still popular among many here. But why is Trump trotting her out?
This is the one thing that might finally make his poll numbers nosedive....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2016 01:04 PM (Dt5C4)

13 Reality TV star endorses reality TV star to cement the support of fans of reality TV shows.

Wake me up when Honey-Boo-Boo makes her announcement.

Posted by: Deety at January 19, 2016 01:04 PM (EmfUD)

14 If the rumor is true, then Sarah has just removed herself from the conservative movement, AFAIC.

Posted by: goozer at January 19, 2016 01:04 PM (eqw7N)

15 on the other hand, knowing what Trump has pulled off so far, who knows if this won't work out for the best. I hate to have bad thoughts about America's favorite MILF.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:04 PM (qSIlh)

16 Luckily her cache is nearly completely diminished. I can see it having a small effect in Iowa, but not much elsewhere. And even in Iowa, I don't see it really changing things.

Hope I right.

Posted by: David at January 19, 2016 01:05 PM (zK5dm)

17 Could be worse. She could have endorsed Kacich.

Or Hillary.

If she does endorse Trump, it's basically her revenge on the GOP-elite for what they did to her. They disrespected her when she was McCain's running mate, and now she's going to deliver the nutshot of all nutshots in return.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 01:05 PM (iIzG7)

18 Trump and Palin 2016 now there is a pair we could get behind.
Far behind

Posted by: bubba at January 19, 2016 01:05 PM (KXAvu)

19 So one "disruptor" may endorse another? How utterly unexpected. After the way the GOPe shit all over Palin in '08, why would she not use the biggest wrench in the drawer to whack them when the opportunity arises?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2016 01:05 PM (Z8fuk)

20 Are we still going to talk about boners in this thread?
Posted by: Furious George at January 19, 2016 01:02 PM (3GAnN)

-----

Its Palin. The boners are implied


Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:05 PM (8XRCm)

21 ...just give me a second.

...

AHOY!

Posted by: PALINISTO at January 19, 2016 01:06 PM (b99VK)

22 Sarah Palin: "My firm philosophical convictions are unshaking and unyielding. They are based firmly in spite."

Posted by: AmishDude at January 19, 2016 01:06 PM (Xd2w5)

23 Yeah...despite my previous feelings about her, I don't think she has any cache left at all. This is all pretty irrelevant except for some die-hards that wouldn't really sway the primary much anyway.

Posted by: Alex #11 at January 19, 2016 01:06 PM (EUMt/)

24 Joke. Obviously thinks the tea party was too.


I dont know if this will change the outcome in Iowa due to Trump's no organization but will it move SC votes or is Palin too obscure now.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:06 PM (f4FYu)

25 re 17: good point.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:06 PM (qSIlh)

26 If she does endorse Trump, it's basically her revenge on the GOP-elite for what they did to her. They disrespected her when she was McCain's running mate, and now she's going to deliver the nutshot of all nutshots in return.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 01:05 PM (iIzG7)

----

This.

... and good for her.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:06 PM (8XRCm)

27 Trump is doing his best to make me not vote for him if he's the nominee. It would take a lot more for that to happen since his opponent is Hillary but he's on the right trajectory.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (qbqnC)

28 Sarah Palin: "My firm philosophical convictions are unshaking and unyielding. They are based firmly in spite."


heh. Goood, good. let the hate flow through you ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (rwI+c)

29 So one "disruptor" may endorse another?

Chaos theory says that this event could disrupt the entire space-time continuum.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (8ZskC)

30 Oh the delicious hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth to come.

The piety is strong with many.

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (faFC1)

31 ...with Sarah Palin linking her daughter Bristol's post attacking Ted Cruz for his lack of loyalty or whatever to the woman who's about to endorse his rival.


Serious question. What possible loyalty would Ted Cruz have to Sarah Palin? Did she endorse him in Texas or something?

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (mf5HN)

32 Reality TV star endorses reality TV star to cement the support of fans of reality TV shows.

Wake me up when Honey-Boo-Boo makes her announcement.



Honey-Boo-Boo endorsed Ding Dongs.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (ct0K5)

33 *decloaks*

Palin Thread!!!!!

*runs away*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (WWdgA)

34 I like Palin. I am not surprised - she and Trump met way back in 2011 when she was still deciding whether to run or not.
And she has always said she would support the person she believes could do it (save USA).

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (cbfNE)

35 I see no way this thread goes pear shaped.

*backs slowly away*

Posted by: Tim in GA at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (wYgGe)

36 Well, o.k. Donald; I don't find you very lilkeable either and the twitter hate fest on Trump was a bit much, but I don't have to like you to vote for you, if you get the nomination

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (w4NZ8)

37 First rule of GILF Club is we don't talk about GILF Club.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (b99VK)

38 Look, Bristol deserves an appearance on the next season of Celebrity Apprentice and if this is what it takes to make it happen, then so be it.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (1RNgT)

39 Trump and Palin 2016 now there is a pair we could get behind.

Each one has a pair.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (FkBIv)

40 "Wake me up when Honey-Boo-Boo makes her announcement."


Jeb is fat. I bet he enjoys fried spaghetti just like me.

Posted by: Honey Boo Boo at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (OD2ni)

41 Sarah could have been a contendah.

Should have gone home and done homework, got some polishing. She had all the potential in the world.

If she endorses Trump it puts her in the Ninth Circle of Frivolousness.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (1xUj/)

42
Yeah...despite my previous feelings about her, I don't think she has any cache left at all. This is all pretty irrelevant except for some die-hards that wouldn't really sway the primary much anyway.


The word is "cachet." A "cache" is a place to hide things.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (X6fMO)

43 What possible loyalty would Ted Cruz have to Sarah Palin? Did she endorse him in Texas or something?


yes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (rwI+c)

44 Twitter hate fest on CRUZ.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (w4NZ8)

45 So does this mean Sarah is now on conservative blacklists?
Posted by: bubba at January 19, 2016 01:03 PM


Sweet Mama Grizzly endorses Big Mean Meanie Who's Really, Really Mean? Yeah, I can see that popping a few balloons among the True Conservatives.

Of course, it might be advisable to remember that she hasn't actually done so yet. People are jumping to conclusions, like they did with the "OMG! Trump is gonna make Scott Brown his Vice President!" stuff.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (ZPz7d)

46 Weren't this broad's fifteen minutes up a long while ago?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (4nmNX)

47 Didn't Sarah endorse Cruz in his early days? Maybe she came to different conclusion now. Perhaps, like Donald says, "once you get to know him..."

Posted by: Bigby's Olive Fingers at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (3ZtZW)

48 Is Rick Wilson gonna make his cute little euphemistic threats on Pailin now too? Gonna ship her off to whatever gulag he has planned for "talk radio"?

Multiple sharks have been cleared this primary season.

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (faFC1)

49 So one "disruptor" may endorse another? How utterly unexpected. After the way the GOPe shit all over Palin in '08, why would she not use the biggest wrench in the drawer to whack them when the opportunity arises?

Yeah, she was treated like shit although I don't think she appreciates how many people defended her from that.

But what can you expect her to do? She's out of serious politics forever. She couldn't even be a park ranger in Alaska now. If Trump makes something of all this, she can be part of his circus.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (Xd2w5)

50 If she did a baked bean wrestling match with Melania, that would be pretty exciting.

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (HgMAr)

51

The War of Hair has begun.

The Cruz campaign comment was nothing.

What did Trump promise Palin?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (qCMvj)

52 Who cares what Sarah Palin endorses - or even thinks - anymore?

Posted by: MacGruber at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (FEAjO)

53 Get ready for some off the charts PTDS

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (fWAjv)

54 Deals with the democrats. That's just what we need to get out of this mess the democrats have gotten us into. More deals.

Let's make a deal!

Posted by: Williams Fitzlender at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (C0q4o)

55 Trump and Palin 2016 now there is a pair we could get behind.
Far behind



If not for Todd Palin, I could get behind Sarah. Like crowbar close.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (ct0K5)

56 Is she the actor who played Tina Fey on SNL once? Why does anyone care about what she has to say?

Posted by: Joe at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (KUaJL)

57 You know, I'm having a real hard time scraping up any fucks to give.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (kpqmD)

58 This.

... and good for her.

-----------

That being said I hope she doesn't take to trashing Cruz in the process. For now its her daughter, and I will not just ascribe her daughter's feelings to her.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (gmeXX)

59 Hell hath no fury like the pregnant daughter of a woman scorned.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (b99VK)

60 OK. Now we just have to wait for the coveted Christine O'Donnell endorsement.

You'll have to wait for a spell.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (LUgeY)

61 This thread ought to be good for a bazillion comments.

Posted by: Flaccid Member at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (5fSr7)

62 Also, if Trump extend, I want Palin to be the head of the newly created Department of Inquisition.

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (cbfNE)

63 What did Trump promise Palin?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (qCMvj)

Prima nocte

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 01:10 PM (fWAjv)

64 If she does endorse Trump, it's basically her revenge on the GOP-elite for what they did to her. They disrespected her when she was McCain's running mate, and now she's going to deliver the nutshot of all nutshots in return.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 01:05 PM (iIzG7)

Why would she not endorse Cruz then? Senate republicans hate him and he's not a liberal on pretty much every issue like Trump.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:10 PM (f4FYu)

65 yes.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (rwI+c)



Ahhhh thank you.

Well, then, logically wouldn't it be Palin who is violating that loyalty by turning on Cruz? If so, then turnabout is fair play.

Put me on Team I Don't Care But I Don't Blame Her For Nutshooting The RNC.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 19, 2016 01:10 PM (mf5HN)

66 These people are so thin skinned, they might as well be from New York.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 19, 2016 01:10 PM (nghs2)

67 I feel bad for Cruz, this whole chain of events was entirely outside the purview of contemporary political analysis. Palin isn't even supposed to matter anymore, and her political endorsement for a reality television personality is now swinging the Iowa caucuses?

Trump = The Mule.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:10 PM (xuouz)

68 Trump and Palin 2016 now there is a pair we could get behind.


I believe the restraining order is still in effect.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:10 PM (rwI+c)

69 41---

Best Comment

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2016 01:10 PM (Dt5C4)

70 I don't think endorsement means that much anymore. And as far as I am concerned neither of these two candidates are "likable".

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 19, 2016 01:11 PM (t2KH5)

71 It's been 7 years, you'd think her 15 minutes of fame would have expired by now.

Sigh....

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:11 PM (0LHZx)

72 But of course Palin has to take everything hyper-personally because, as the Scorpion said, that's her nature, so now we have this...

The Bristol piece is so retarded. Overreaction is an understatement.

Mom points to it, for one of two reasons (imho):

1) points to daughter in sign of support
2) Sarah Palin using daughter to make a double point (two news items hitting the media at once).

This is so bizarre.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 19, 2016 01:11 PM (qCMvj)

73 This doesn't hurt Cruz at all. Sarah Palin doesn't work at Goldman Sachs, but Cruz's wife does, so Cruz still wins with the Wall Street banker demographic.

Posted by: dfp21 at January 19, 2016 01:11 PM (9gxfj)

74 Nobody saw this coming?

Posted by: davidt at January 19, 2016 01:11 PM (8aOqE)

75 Wait - she thinks Cruz in likable, but Trump is?

If I were voting for someone who was likeable, my vote would be for Ben Carson. I'd have him over for drinks and dinner. I'd love him as my neighbor. I'd loan him my car.

I don't think he's exactly Presidential material, but I like the guy.

Does anyone here find Trump likeable?

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 01:11 PM (iIzG7)

76 You'll have to wait for a spell.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (LUgeY)

hahah!!

Posted by: Mainah at January 19, 2016 01:11 PM (659DL)

77 *peeks in*

*backs away*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2016 01:12 PM (FsuaD)

78
Could be worse. She could have endorsed Kacich.
..........................

*purses lips*
Maybe she hasn't yet heard about all my accomplishments. I should send her a copy of my resume.

Posted by: John Kasich at January 19, 2016 01:12 PM (HgMAr)

79 "Sarah could have been a contendah.
Should have gone home and done homework, got some polishing. She had all the potential in the world.
If she endorses Trump it puts her in the Ninth Circle of Frivolousness.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie"


Agreed. If she stayed governor and won re-election in 2010, she would have had a shot in 2012 against Obama. But she chose a different path. Her life, her choice.

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 19, 2016 01:12 PM (OD2ni)

80 "The word is "cachet." A "cache" is a place to hide things."

and Sarah has several of those...

IYKWIMAITTYD

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 19, 2016 01:12 PM (YZH0v)

81 I've always believed that Cruz--as smart as he is--is unelectable. He looks like a pussy but he's arrogant as hell.So is Trump, but he doesn't look like a pussy.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 19, 2016 01:12 PM (Dt5C4)

82 Palin endorsed Cruz and relatively early. Knowing what we know now, Cruz would likely have won regardless, but it was a bounce at the time.

I've always liked Palin, and have pretty much always defended her on this board. But I will be disappointed if she uses this as a way to attack Cruz. She can give her endorsement to whomever, and endorsing Trump doesn't bother me (I think it is a great endorsement for him). But if she attacks Cruz in the process, then I will finally have to get off the Palin bandwagon - at least for now - that so many have departed.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:12 PM (gmeXX)

83 13: "Reality TV star endorses reality TV star to cement the support of fans of reality TV shows."

But who does Snookie endorse?

Because I'm lost without some narcissistic camera monger to tell me who I should vote for.

/sarc

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 01:12 PM (4nmNX)

84 If this works, it will prove the consultants correct. Donald takes the center left and right, Palin steals the right from the GOP establishment. The GOPe becomes a minority, unless they can make deals with The Donald, and the extreme far left democrats spend sixteen years in the wilderness.

Posted by: Williams Fitzlender at January 19, 2016 01:12 PM (C0q4o)

85 The stupid part isn't that all of this is happening.

It's that it's all anyone can talk about.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:12 PM (xuouz)

86 So Cruz is banished from their table in the cafeteria?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (/f6Nd)

87 This doesn't hurt Cruz at all. Sarah Palin doesn't work at Goldman Sachs, but Cruz's wife does, so Cruz still wins with the Wall Street banker demographic.

At least the Houston banker demographic, probably.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (rwI+c)

88 We've been let down by our brain chemistry.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (xuouz)

89 All further references to "15 minutes of fame" or variants thereof shall result in suspension of that commenter's AoSHQ membership privileges for an indefinite period. That is all.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Comment Duplication Control Team at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (8ZskC)

90 I have no doubt Cruz would win the general election by a point or two.

However, I believe Trump can win 47 states.

Time for the big win - and the only thing that would make it even more sweet would be if Palin was on the ticket or deeply involved.

Of course, I'm sure it doesn't seem that way under the powdered wig of Charles CW Cooke and the rest of the paid thinkers. We're a constant disappointment to them.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (Zs4uk)

91 I like Ted Cruz for what he is and what he is not. I don't give a high velocity rat turd if I want to have a beer with him or not.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (xWW96)

92 "If the rumor is true, then Sarah has just removed herself from the conservative movement"

Thinking sourly here about the memoir from the former George W. Bush aide, who related how Dubya demanded all lines mentioning "the conservative movement" be purged from his then-upcoming speech to CPAC.

"There is no 'movement'," Dubya scolded his speechwriters. Because he had, Dubya said proudly, "redefined the party" in new terms away from conservatism.

So, as far as the GOP establishment are concerned, there isn't any movement from which Palin or anyone else might notionally remove themselves. Speaks volumes regarding their _Weltanschauung_.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (noWW6)

93 Why the fuck can't Republicans ever say something like

"so and so is a good person, has some good ideas, but overall I think so and so is a better choice for America". Not it always has to be "so and so is a fucking asshole, who will destroy the world as we know it if he ever comes close to the white house, which is why you MUST vote for the other guy."

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (0LHZx)

94
Holy crap....

All the "damn dirty Rinos in the GOPe can all rot in hell" sentiments....

.... right up until runs for office and is deemd unelectable.

Some of ya'all trash the GOPe challengers a lot more than ya'all trash the GOPe.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (8XRCm)

95 There's a lawyer who subs as host for a local conservative AM radio talk-show host in my area. He's faced off against Cruz in the courtroom and this dude HATES Cruz with a passion. Every time he's on the radio he goes on about how Cruz MUST not be the nominee and he'll do anything to stop him.

I like Cruz but geez it seems a lot of people can't stand the guy.

(to his credit, this lawyer says if Cruz IS the nominee he will hold his nose and vote for him even though he will hate to do so, because he will not vote Dem.)

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (r9tFS)

96 Finally.

I've missed the dulcet tones of a Palin Rally/Campaign Speech.

Posted by: Skylined Caribou at January 19, 2016 01:14 PM (b99VK)

97 *purses lips*
Maybe she hasn't yet heard about all my accomplishments. I should send her a copy of my resume.
Posted by: John Kasich at January 19, 2016 01:12 PM (HgMAr)

"Dad? DAD! Wanna deliver this for me? Yes right now. Neither wind nor snow, remember? Sleet nor rain."

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:14 PM (xuouz)

98 Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:10 PM (xuouz)

I dont know if it'll move Iowa. Organization matters for caucuses and Trump has none. South Carolina on the other hand might be different.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:15 PM (f4FYu)

99 For me next reality star endorsement, I present the Kardashians. Their asses are yuuuuge.

Posted by: Donald Trump at January 19, 2016 01:15 PM (OD2ni)

100 Boohoo, I am going to skip your party (the Oscars) and have my own pity party.

-or-

More of the left eating its own.

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/ janet-hubert-jada-pinkett-smith-oscar-boycott-1201682705/



Posted by: Obama Endorser, Hillary Supporter, J. P. Smith at January 19, 2016 01:15 PM (3dOE/)

101
Who cares what Sarah Palin endorses - or even thinks - anymore?


I guarantee a lot of people would if she were endorsing !Jeb or the Cuban Combover. She'd be seen as an "elder stateswoman" of the Tea Party movement rejecting the "extremism" of the Trump know-nothing wing of the GOP.

Not a slam. Just an observation.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 19, 2016 01:15 PM (X6fMO)

102 17: "If she does endorse Trump, it's basically her revenge on the GOP-elite..."

I can fully support her, or anyone, exacting some sort of vengeance upon the GOPe.

But why the negativity towards Cruz?

Candidates themselves will throw elbows at other candidates. But why would a purported conservative be throwing mud at another purported conservative?

Just endorse your guy and say good things about him. Then go home.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 01:15 PM (4nmNX)

103 Trump = The Mule.
Posted by: Ghost of kari


He knew you were going to say that.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (FkBIv)

104 I'm not making any decisions until I've heard from Snooki.

Posted by: johnd01 at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (ukNFU)

105 It's a prank!

Posted by: Tina Fey at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (UBS9M)

106 Does anyone here find Trump likeable? Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 01:11 PM

Not so much. I mean I don't dislike him, and I'd like to have a drink with him -- I'm pretty sure he'd pick up the bar tab -- but he doesn't seem like the BFF type.

Which is not what I want from a President at this point in time, anyway.

Then again, Cruzer seems to me like someone you couldn't trust as a friend.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (ZPz7d)

107 I'm thinking he DNC approves of this endorsement. Good for the GOP primary, bad for the general. If Trump is the nominee I hope they're smart enough to keep her under wraps.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (qbqnC)

108 Remind me again why we need a likable guy as president? Bernie looks like a fun guy to hang around. So using Palin's logic, he's our man!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (0LHZx)

109 93 Why the fuck can't Republicans ever say something like
"so and so is a good person, has some good ideas, but overall I think so and so is a better choice for America". Not it always has to be "so and so is a fucking asshole, who will destroy the world as we know it if he ever comes close to the white house, which is why you MUST vote for the other guy."
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (0LHZx)

Because it's the only way to pry open 11 seconds of airtime between what James Franco said about McDonalds and how "Muslims donated 30,000 bottles of water to Flint, MI"

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (xuouz)

110 and the extreme far left democrats spend sixteen years in the wilderness

The extreme far left Democrats might spend sixteen years in the wildernesss, but the whole problem with electing a populist is that liberalism doesn't.

Posted by: AD at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (uzVds)

111 I will say it again....

the SMOD ticket??? the one which would make ALL the Talking heads on TV explode???

Trump / Palin 2016

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (f7rv6)

112

I'm really not sure how a Palin backing really helps (I know there are some die hard Palin fans, but it really can't be that many).

Palin always ran as an outsider, so the Trump/Palin thing works. But, it would with Cruz too.

The Palins must really need the publicity, I surmise. They've been out of the limelight.

If Palin comes out in support of Trump, it would not be out of her zone of trying to pick winners. If she saw Cruz as winning, she might just be supporting him.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (qCMvj)

113 "Boohoo, I am going to skip your party (the Oscars) and have my own pity party."

I didn't realize there was supposed to be a quota at the awards show.

May they should just start giving everybody Participation Oscars.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 01:17 PM (iIzG7)

114 Palin was always more of a populist than a true conservative. Here's guessing she has added a little Let It Burn attitude to her populism.

Posted by: Furious George at January 19, 2016 01:17 PM (3GAnN)

115 Does anyone here find Trump likeable?

I watched his speech yesterday and kept expecting him to pull a beer from underneath the podium.

I'd go drinking with The Donald in a heartbeat, if for no other reason than to find out what it's like to have a designated pilot.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 19, 2016 01:17 PM (LUgeY)

116 10 I will note that preemptively bitching about it was a real bonehead move by Ted's spokeshole.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:03 PM (rwI+c)
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Yup.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 01:17 PM (MbrzC)

117 Cruz got the Duck Dynasty guy and Trump gets Palin. You know what this means right?

Ted Nugent is the tiebreaker.

Ted Nugent is the kingmaker.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 19, 2016 01:17 PM (1RNgT)

118 106
Does anyone here find Trump likeable? Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 01:11 PM

Not so much. I mean I don't dislike him, and I'd like to have a drink with him -- I'm pretty sure he'd pick up the bar tab -- but he doesn't seem like the BFF type.

Which is not what I want from a President at this point in time, anyway.

Then again, Cruzer seems to me like someone you couldn't trust as a friend.


Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (ZPz7d)


I thought Bush II was likable; just a counterexample.

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (3dOE/)

119 107 I'm thinking he DNC approves of this endorsement. Good for the GOP primary, bad for the general. If Trump is the nominee I hope they're smart enough to keep her under wraps.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 01:16 PM (qbqnC)

Yeah this is enough of a circus without her popping up.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (xuouz)

120 as much as I like Cruz, we can all imagine what the MSM will do to him in the general election. Trump knows how to beat them at that game. If Palin does endorse Trump, it may be that she feels that Trump has a better chance of beating Hillery than Cruz has.

Anyway, he might not be a full line conservative, but Trump certainly understands that capitalism works a whole lot better than anything the Dems would offer.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (qSIlh)

121

The word is "cachet." A "cache" is a place to hide things.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (X6fMO)


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Okay. I wouldn't mind getting to her cache.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (Fmupd)

122 Teh Sarah is all about the disruption. She's embraced the Outsider Persona and sees Trump as another outsider. This is actually logical if your brand is The Chick Who Disrupts the Status Quo and Supports Others Who Also Do So (TM).

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (RD7QR)

123 Is THIS Why People Don't like Cruz?
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No, it's why people dont like you, Bristol. Stay off social media including posting baby pixs. You're making an ass out of yourself.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (iQIUe)

124 Is Bristol Palin still a whore?

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (TJCSB)

125 Question 1: What did James Franco say about McDs?

Question 2: Who is James Franco?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (0LHZx)

126 I think it's time Jay Nordlinger and Dennis Prager step up to the plate for Cruz.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (qbqnC)

127 I sleep for 2 or 3 hours and wake up. This makes me extremely tired at this time of day. SMOD would really help wake me up.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 19, 2016 01:19 PM (iQIUe)

128

LOL, is the GOP really going to mess this election up and give Hillary the nod?

They're trying hard.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 19, 2016 01:19 PM (qCMvj)

129 Bristol is a bastard factory. I really give a fuck what she thinks.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 19, 2016 01:19 PM (xWW96)

130 I'm beginning to think the GOPe may get their preferred candidate after all, Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 19, 2016 01:19 PM (/f6Nd)

131 This is actually logical if your brand is The Chick Who Disrupts the Status Quo and Supports Others Who Also Do So (TM).
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (RD7QR)

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You say that like its a bad thing.

Maybe ya'all can get Romney to run again.....

Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:19 PM (8XRCm)

132
Serious question. What possible loyalty would Ted Cruz have to Sarah Palin? Did she endorse him in Texas or something?

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 19, 2016 01:07 PM (mf5HN)
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Yes she did and it helped.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 01:19 PM (MbrzC)

133 120 If Palin does endorse Trump, it may be that she feels that Trump has a better chance of beating Hillery than Cruz has.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (qSIlh)

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So why not just say that? It is possible to endorse candidate A without shitting all over candidate B.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (0LHZx)

134 Sarah Palin is the Norma Desmond of politics, she's just trying to keep her name out there though all the rest of us have moved on. I used to really like her but now, I think she's just haunting the studios, still getting ready for the close up that's no longer coming

Posted by: Well now at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (dPUnS)

135 Is Bristol Palin still a whore?


Department of Family Services says ... yes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (rwI+c)

136 0 I will note that preemptively bitching about it was a real bonehead move by Ted's spokeshole.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:03 PM (rwI+c)
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Yup.

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While it was much more mild than Bristol made it out to be, I tend to agree. One it has a beta male (Jeb) quality to it.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (gmeXX)

137 Don't discount that there might be some South Carolina inside baseball going on here. Palin backed Nikki Haley early--when it really mattered. No Palin, no Haley.

Posted by: Furious George at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (3GAnN)

138 I like Sarah Palin but I really don't care what Bristol Palin has to say about anything. Not sure why Sarah would put her daughter's opinion in the middle. Not sure why Bristol Palin has a writing gig. Not sure about a lot of things.

Still, I like Palin and I like Trump. I'm not a Cruz voter but I don't dislike him. Not sure what this stuff is all about. Luckily, I could not care less.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (zc3Db)

139 However, I believe Trump can win 47 states.

I guess I don't mind the support of Trump, it's the masturbatory fantasies that I can't stand.

Trump is polling FIFTEEN POINTS behind BERNIE F'CKING SANDERS.

15 points.

15.

And there have been no anti-Trump negative ads. None. There are no anti-Trump ads. Trump is a known quantity and people hate, hate, hate, hate, hate him.

In part because he insults people.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (Xd2w5)

140 Oh lord. All of this sounds like silly squabbling.

I will say, Cruz's comments were mild, Palin's were mild, (bristols were just kind of stupid) none of it is scorched earth stuff.

Posted by: Lea at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (lIU4e)

141 115
Does anyone here find Trump likeable?



I watched his speech yesterday and kept expecting him to pull a beer from underneath the podium.



I'd go drinking with The Donald in a heartbeat, if for no other
reason than to find out what it's like to have a designated pilot.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 19, 2016 01:17 PM (LUgeY)


Trump has repeatedly said he doesn't drink. At all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2016 01:21 PM (FsuaD)

142 Palin is an awesome woman ... even if all she did was become mayor of Wasilla. Then she was very popular as governor ... so I giver her a lot of credit as "the real deal".

What happened with McCain and people going through her trash, or that Kentucky Democrat kid hacking her email ... she still stands strong. I haven't even paid attention to her for a long time, but sure can't see the point of bashing her. Assuming she supports Trump, it will be interesting to see what she has to say.

Is there some reason evangelicals lean to Trump more than Cruz? Baptists tend to be more "our way or you're going to hell" than some Christian denominations, from my experience. An uncle and cousins were happy to tell us just who was saved and who wasn't, and brag about who they got saved. But maybe that is just certain branches of the Baptists. Cruz is pushing the Jesus button a lot though.

Posted by: Illiniwek at January 19, 2016 01:21 PM (5Gpe2)

143 You morons made me do it!

Political insights by Snooki


Ok so I'm not even going to start with politics, because I have no idea what I'm doing nor am I gonna try, but Hillary Clinton just announced that she is going to be running for president. She's going to be a candidate!

I love it because she is a woman. This would be HUGE. I don't follow politics but I'm definitely going to start because I want to vote for someone that I love.

I remember when Bill Clinton was president, besides him being addicted to sex, he was a good president!

By the way, if I was Hillary Clinton, I would have kicked the other woman's ass LOL. But I do hope she kicks ass in this election.

I asked Joey if she supports the gay community because that's all that matters and Joey said she does because they feature a gay couple in her commercial. LOVE! Plus, Joey is like in love with her campaign manager.

After all this presidential talk maybe I'm gonna run for President too lol!!!



*takes a shower

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 01:21 PM (fWAjv)

144 125 Question 1: What did James Franco say about McDs?
Question 2: Who is James Franco?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (0LHZx)

Nothing, I made that one up. He was in Pineapple Express.

The "Muslims donate water to Flint" story actually is real, and further evidence of how cocooned from reality your average lib/liv is.
See! They're nice!
30,000 bottles of water costs like two grand, tops, and isn't unraping anybody in Europe or raising the two towers.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:21 PM (xuouz)

145 Trump has repeatedly said he doesn't drink. At all.

That settles it, ANATHEMA!

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (rwI+c)

146

ace,

With all due respect - and speaking as a conservative who likes Cruz and would be proud to vote for him in the general election - early on you yourself said that Cruz had a serious charisma / likability problem.
So maybe there's something to it.

Just saying.








Posted by: Trump Super Fan at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (l2dSQ)

147 Trump = The Mule.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:10 PM (xuouz)

I've been saying that since last year.

I guess that makes Rove = Hari Seldon?

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (cbfNE)

148 I kept saying, 'Come on Ted. Let's go, okay.' But he's a nasty guy.

And I don't know what this is all about.

Posted by: Lea at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (lIU4e)

149 Sarah, Sarah, Sarah.
Go away. Spend some time with
your kids. Teach them some morals.

Posted by: ugg boots at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (fbovC)

150 I don't care about likeability, but I won't vote for someone I don't respect.

Yes Trump gives it sideways to the establishment, but has conducted his business and public life like a true, classless blowhard. He's been all over the place on abortion, gay marriage, gun rights, etc etc and truly seems to believe only in the last thing he's said, because he said it, and reserves the right to do a 180 tomorrow. He has never to my ears mentioned federalism, limited government nor does he seem particulalry concerned about Executive overreach.
I think Beck got him right when he pegged him as another big gubmint progressive, only he thinks he can run it better.
God save the United States.

Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (k8tEg)

151 I guarantee a lot of people would if she were endorsing !Jeb or the Cuban Combover. She'd be seen as an "elder stateswoman" of the Tea Party movement rejecting the "extremism" of the Trump know-nothing wing of the GOP.

It'd be man bites dog so yeah.

Predictable endorsements get no traction.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (Xd2w5)

152 as much as I like Cruz, we can all imagine what the MSM will do to him in the general election.

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Pardon me if I don't want the MSM deciding my vote for me. I can imagine what the MSM will do, I can also visualize Cruz throwing it back in their face. I can also imagine the MSM rising up against Trump, and Trump being completely unprepared for the onslaught against him.

How about we not worry about what the MSM will do. Because the only thing we know for certain is they will be against the GOP nominee.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (gmeXX)

153 Sarah Palin is right, of course. Trump is approachable on a basic human level. His faults and virtues are there on the table for all to see. Ted Cruz lectures, slices and dices, and works the intellectual arguments that enthrall the few and bore the many.

Politics in a democracy requires more than a bit of theatrics and entertainment value. Voters want to laugh WITH their candidate and at their opponents. Cruz can't, or won't, engage with potential voters. Add to the mix that a candidate who can laugh off the oppo is perceived as a confident candidate. Trump's confident.

Posted by: mrp at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (JBggj)

154 "124 Is Bristol Palin still a whore?"


That's not funny! Oh wait, she's not a liberal so it is funny.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (OD2ni)

155 Sarah could have been a contendah.

Should have gone home and done homework, got some polishing. She had all the potential in the world.

If she endorses Trump it puts her in the Ninth Circle of Frivolousness.Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 19, 2016 01:08 PM (1xUj/)

I'm bummed out. I really liked Palin from the start and--since my best friend lives in Kodiak and had pointed her out to me--had followed her Alaskan governorship with interest. Now this.

And who is Palin's closest political advisor, anyway? Does some really sarcastically funny Eskimo spirit speak through that stuffed mooshead on the wall in theliving room and urge her and her family to do stupid shit?

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (OGbEB)

156 Its amusing to see all the commenters here bitching about Palin going negative...

With all the negative comments here about her.

We complain about Politicians NOT being like real people.... yet when one does act JUST LIKE THEM.... they attack her for acting like real people..

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (f7rv6)

157 I thought Bush II was likable; just a counterexample. Posted by: rebel flounder at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM

Oh hellz yeah. See him at the grocery store or gas station and chat a minute about the weather. Or how the Astros are gonna do next season.

No politics, though.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (ZPz7d)

158 Palin backed Nikki Haley early--when it really mattered. No Palin, no Haley.

Come on, that's total bullshit. Just because Palin endorses somebody it doesn't mean she molded them out of clay. Jesus.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (Xd2w5)

159 93: "Why the fuck can't Republicans ever say something like..."

Damn. I actually agree with the Moo.

I need to see if this is referenced as one of the seals broken in Revelation.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (4nmNX)

160 Posted by: Lea at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (lIU4e)

You think saying ' ...this is why no one likes Cruz' is mild and not ad hominem?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (qbqnC)

161 At the very least, heads in the media will now explode with even greater fervor.

Can't see how this helps Trump much in the polls. Unless the media goes prattling on about how this will finally case Trump to fall.

Then Trump goes up another 10.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (WuRdh)

162 Don't discount that there might be some South Carolina inside baseball going on here. Palin backed Nikki Haley early--when it really mattered. No Palin, no Haley.
Posted by: Furious George at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (3GAnN)

Haley just spent her speech after the SOTU telling Trump to fuck off.

The difference between Haley and Palin is, is that currently, one is a Governor who cares about not electing a complete democrat as the Repub nom and the other wants another reality show.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (f4FYu)

163 I've been saying that since last year.

I guess that makes Rove = Hari Seldon?
Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (cbfNE)

I knew I was stealing that, and now I know who to credit.

Karl Rove? More like Soros.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (xuouz)

164 Trump is polling FIFTEEN POINTS behind BERNIE F'CKING SANDERS.

15 points.

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Oh FFS......

Why does everybody buy into the polling when the polling at this point doesnt mean shit.

REAGAN was fifteen points behind Carter in "the polling" just weeks before the election.

Stop listening to liberals telling us what is best for us.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (8XRCm)

165 If it's a "thing" at all, I see this as a wash, maybe slight edge to Cruz. Trump already has a rabid base, and not sure who else Palin will really rope in. He already has enough media hype and "excitement" going on.

On the other hand, Palin may come with some negatives. Her support/involvement may scare a few wavering Trump voters to Cruz. And down the line, as much as the GOPe dislikes Cruz, I have to think they would loathe any trace of Palinism even more.

Posted by: RM at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (U3LtS)

166 Trump has repeatedly said he doesn't drink. At all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2016 01:21 PM (FsuaD)

His brother died of alcoholism (assuming cirrhosis)

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 01:24 PM (fWAjv)

167 Trump is approachable on a basic human level.

No he's not. He's an asshole who will take the first opportunity to tell you off.

The whole point of his TV show is that he's the scary boss.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 19, 2016 01:24 PM (Xd2w5)

168 How about we not worry about what the MSM will do. Because the only thing we know for certain is they will be against the GOP nominee.

Well said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:24 PM (w4NZ8)

169 So Palin is Palinizing Cruz, jumping on the bandwagon with the unlikable thing. I've always defended SP, but endorsing trump really does only hurt her with her "base". Weird times. I'm sitting back watching everyone get on the Trump bandwagon, watching little girls sing about him, talk about deja vu.

Posted by: spypeach at January 19, 2016 01:24 PM (nyYhO)

170 So maybe there's something to it.

Just saying.

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Yeah, well they said the same thing about Nixon and he won the biggest landslide ever.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:24 PM (gmeXX)

171 Ace, you gotta cut Bristol some slack. She's obviously suffering from hormonal mood swings after having her second illegitimate child. Don't judge!

Posted by: Joanne Hearts Cruz But Will Vote for Trump at January 19, 2016 01:24 PM (hgBpU)

172 Reagan WAS likable, and the MFM shit all over him 24-7. I don't give a damn whether the MFM thinks he is likable.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (xWW96)

173 143
You morons made me do it!



Political insights by Snooki




Jeebus. I lost IQ points reading that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (FsuaD)

174

All of the supposed Democrats that would vote for Trump will run for the hills if he adds Palin to his ticket.

Can she gain enough votes to cast out those and other Indies?

Not sure.

My parents are Democrats and they are so pro-Trump, but I know my mother would not vote for Trump if he picks up Palin. No way.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (qCMvj)

175
Let's talk about the 900 lb gorilla:

who will the brokered convention nominate?

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (RcpcZ)

176 I suppose this is important for people who base all of their decisions on celebrity endorsements.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (hLRSq)

177 "If [Palin] stayed governor and won re-election in 2010, she would have had a shot in 2012 against Obama."

She was being financially destroyed as governor by the nuisance "ethics" lawsuits, having to expensively retain counsel out of her own pocket for each one. Staying would have been damned tough.

That said, she might have been able to see it through and stay the course, if she had more competently organized her defense effort. Unfortunately, she ended up hobbled by an old habit of hers, excessive personal loyalty.

She put the Palin family attorney, an old and close friend, in charge of the effort to raise funds for her defense. Unfortunately, not a particularly good attorney, in circumstances which demanded the best available counsel. So what resulted was the farce of the attorney signing off on what they called "the official Sarah Palin defense fund".

That fund, meant to pay for defense against bogus ethics violations, instantly itself became the subject of an ethics violation. How meta! Because of the utterly stupid choice of wording in referring to it as an "official" defense fund, which put them in conflict with a statute barring the appearance of official governmental favor being proffered for private benefit. The sort of thing you pay top lawyers to spot and prevent.

So with that avenue closed off by incompetence, resigning and taking a media job had really become the only available means by which Palin could protect her family finances.

Her professional public relations during this time were also being handled in an equally cackhanded way, and for similar reasons. Putting a well-liked amateur in charge instead of a tough pro.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (noWW6)

178 I guess that makes Rove = Hari Seldon?

Hari Seldon is Hari Seldon.
Rove is just another camp follower trying to gain advantage for himself during the next Seldon Crisis.

Posted by: Williams Fitzlender at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (C0q4o)

179 if i could care less, i would.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (W0RfD)

180 Stop listening to liberals telling us what is best for us.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (8XRCm)

Trump is a liberal, you cunt.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (f4FYu)

181
Because it's the only way to pry open 11 seconds of airtime between what James Franco said about McDonalds and how "Muslims donated 30,000 bottles of water to Flint, MI"

- James Franco? There's a blast from the past.

- Flint better check that water for viruses.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (X6fMO)

182 Trump and Cruz are both pretty unattractive people. Not at all like the President, who is some kind of man!

Posted by: Justice Anthony Kennedy at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (LISuA)

183
World's oldest man dies at age 112

http://bbc.in/1PnrvJX

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (iQIUe)

184

Rhinos neither pro or anti Cruz, but


Does Palin have ANY coattails anymore? Has she delivered an election for anyone?


Winning Iowa has meant exactly nothing to who the eventual candidate is. Honestly don't win Iowa. It's bad luck

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (zOTsN)

185 What is with this Trump is likable and approachable meme? Have you seen his favorables?

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:26 PM (f4FYu)

186 Trump has repeatedly said he doesn't drink. At all. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2016 01:21 PM

Fine with me. Wouldn't offend me if he has an RC while I knock back some Jack.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 01:26 PM (ZPz7d)

187 If this comes to pass (the Palin endorsement of Trump), I won't lie, I will be personally heartbroken.

I like Palin. I like Cruz. In some ways, I like Trump. I realize that this is politics, and politics is a bloodsport. In a more perfect world, there would have been a way to win a nomination without burning so many damn bridges. That said, I feel as if too much ammo is being expended on friendly forces instead of the enemy ones.

Aliens are going to have to land on the moon and start eating some cute high school cheerleaders before everyone unites again.

In the meanwhile, I am looking for adult beverages. Strong ones.

Posted by: itzWicks at January 19, 2016 01:26 PM (9hbf9)

188 I still like Palin but it's been clear for several years she's just echoing the current trends. She knows she's not running for anything again, and she's using her fame to cash in big time. One one level I still don't disagree with that as she has a big family and a kid with Down's who is going to need serious help in life after her and Todd are gone. But at the same time let's admit what's going on.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 01:26 PM (4ErVI)

189 Trump is the least person that would sit down with you and have a beer. He might send his assistant over to have a beer with you.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 01:26 PM (qbqnC)

190 Trump is polling FIFTEEN POINTS behind BERNIE F'CKING SANDERS.

15 points.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 19, 2016 01:20 PM (Xd2w5)

Per RCP it's 5.3, and nobody outside of reddit has seen so much as a hair on Bernie's head since September. The dude is a retard and a socialist to boot.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:26 PM (xuouz)

191 The truth is Snooki represents a sizeable portion of Democrat voters.

Absolute idiots.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (oVJmc)

192 Rhinos is supposed to be "This is". Auto cucumber has a sense of humor

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (zOTsN)

193 Trump is a liberal, you cunt.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (f4FYu)

----

**throws flag**


Fifteen yards for general douchebagery.

Pray we never meet.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (8XRCm)

194 I don't care if Palin endorses Trump. She lost me when she went after Perry on that guardasil crap Bachman was pushing.

Posted by: Joanne Hearts Cruz But Will Vote for Trump at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (hgBpU)

195 Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (noWW6)

Good analysis.

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (cbfNE)

196 Trump is polling FIFTEEN POINTS behind BERNIE F'CKING SANDERS.


I don't believe that for a second. Colonel Sanders is a washed up old hippie Commie. Either Trump or Cruz would wipe the floor with him in a debate.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (LUgeY)

197 Sarah Palin is the Norma Desmond of politics

I am big. It's the campaigns that got small.

Posted by: Norma Palin at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (FkBIv)

198 "Trump has repeatedly said he doesn't drink. At all."

Note that a Putin-Trump summit meeting would be between two teetotallers.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (noWW6)

199 THIS is what passes for News today? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (kzdjp)

200 Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (f4FYu)

Could we just can the c---t garbage about other posters on this board?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (w4NZ8)

201 "However, I believe Trump can win 47 states."

Based on what? His massive unfavorability rating among Republicans, Democrats, and Indies? The fact that he has no coherent policy, just a lot of "I'll tell you how I'll pull it off once I'm elected" garbage? The fact that he does his toughest talk from the safety of a Twitter account? The fact that every single time he participates in a debate, he clams up because, oh yeah, he can't explain himself or his positions?

"Of course, I'm sure it doesn't seem that way under the powdered wig of Charles CW Cooke and the rest of the paid thinkers. We're a constant disappointment to them."

Can't imagine why that is. After all, it's not like some vocal Trump supporters have spent years whining about RINOs and liberal policy. I mean, if they did that, it'd be silly and downright laughable for them to support a guy who denounced the Tea Party in 2009, spoke so highly of Obama that year, praised Hillary's time at the State Department, supported TARP, favors funding for Planned Parenthood, opposed religious liberty, opposed tearing up the deal with Iran, blamed Israel for the problems in the Middle East, supports a 45% tariff on imported Chinese goods, donated to numerous liberal candidates (including one Rahm Emanuel), has had a very inconsistent attitude on amnesty, voiced support for taking away 2nd Amendment rights from those on the No-Fly list, and openly supports single payer (like one Bernie Sanders). Yeesh, can you imagine anyone denouncing "the GOPe" and then being dumb enough to back a guy like Trump? Oh, I guess you can.

As for the Palins, they can support whoever they wish, but their antics in the story above highlight that they're pretty whiny and thin-skinned in the face of even mild criticism (so they make a natural fit for Trump in that regard). But they're definitely not true conservatives, as evidenced by their support for a lifelong liberal.

Isn't it funny, though? Rubio gets a lot of grief for his Gang of 8 history, but Trump gets a pass for being a massive liberal. Gotta love that hypocrisy.

Posted by: tops116 at January 19, 2016 01:28 PM (Wn+fE)

202 Trump is a liberal, you cunt.


Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (f4FYu)


Pretty sure that's a bannable offense. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 01:28 PM (4ErVI)

203 On the other hand, Palin may come with some negatives. Her support/involvement may scare a few wavering Trump voters to Cruz. And down the line, as much as the GOPe dislikes Cruz, I have to think they would loathe any trace of Palinism even more.


23rd level of chess?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 01:28 PM (ct0K5)

204 I don't like Cruz.

I hope I don't have to vote for him. He's preachy and just whiny.

I don't like Trump much either, but between the two, Trump is actually more likeable.

I like Palin too. But not as a politician.

In fact an endorsement by Palin, makes me rethink if the person is a serious person. Because Palin is shallow, maybe her preference is for shallow wishy washy people.

It looks like she isn't the one Trump was talking about anyway... so good.

Posted by: petunia at January 19, 2016 01:28 PM (VoCyE)

205 Fifteen yards for general douchebagery.

Pray we never meet.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (8XRCm)

Reminder that Trump endorsed Bill De Blasio TWO fucking years ago!

Dumbass.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:28 PM (f4FYu)

206 180 Stop listening to liberals telling us what is best for us.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (8XRCm)

Trump is a liberal, you cunt.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (f4FYu)

Hearts and minds, pal

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:28 PM (xuouz)

207 Folks know what they're getting with Trump. As to the "scary boss" thing... Right now people want a "scary boss" who isn't Hillary.

Posted by: mrp at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (JBggj)

208 "Note that a Putin-Trump summit meeting would be between two teetotallers."


Well you can count me out then. Hic.

Posted by: Hillary at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (OD2ni)

209 Sarah is 100% done taking shit from douchebag consultants and spokes mouths. By the way, it hasn't been as mild as you make it out to be. There have been other things said that essentially mean, if you don't endorse ted cruz then you are a liar since you've been espousing conservatism and he is the conservative compared to Trump. I have noticed this strain of commentary a lot lately and she doesn't respond well to that kind of bullshit, nor would I.

Also, why is it so outrageous to like two people in a race but ultimately go with the one you think has the best chance to win in the general and peel off some traditional democrat votes?

Herman Cain said he has black callers on his radio show saying they are voting for Trump, but not becoming republicans. It looks like this year is going to be a bit different than past elections and I think that is a damn good thing.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (COpZ4)

210 Fuck her and her dumb whore daughter.

Posted by: VBJonny at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (NX9H4)

211 Flappa. Look at the rules in the sidebar about polite discourse and personal invective. Then think about what you wrote

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (zOTsN)

212 Hey pancake maker, you're talking to people, not twitter bots. You can just have a conversation, not drop c bombs.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (xuouz)

213 115 Does anyone here find Trump likeable?

I watched his speech yesterday and kept expecting him to pull a beer from underneath the podium.

I'd go drinking with The Donald in a heartbeat, if for no other reason than to find out what it's like to have a designated pilot.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 19, 2016 01:17 PM (LUgeY)


I'm not a Trump guy, but as big an ego as he has, I could see regular people shooting the sh*t with him over an evening in a way I can't with Cruz. The fact he has a big ego that is at least partly shtick (and he's entertaining when he does it) makes him more likeable than Cruz in that he just comes off as less patronizing.

Posted by: AD at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (uzVds)

214 This unlikeable horseshit - jeez, it's like Cruz is the geeky kid running for 7th grade class president.

We are not a serious people.

Posted by: Donna and V. (not brandishing ampersands at the prsent time) at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (u0lmX)

215

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (f4FYu)

Clean up on aisle 180?

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (f7rv6)

216 Going OT - Sanders is so weak. Can't forget him getting bullied off his own stage by BLM.

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (cbfNE)

217 Most of the time I'm really depressed about this country and the direction it's headed. But, geez, this primary season has been fun to watch.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (Fmupd)

218 Ah, election season brings out the best around here.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (oVJmc)

219 Posted by: Flapjackmaka


Dial it back, pup.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (rwI+c)

220 The Brits wd ban Trump but let every head chopping dictaror in:

http://goo.gl/PKTWN4

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (iQIUe)

221
World's oldest man dies at age 112


***calls room service for more hookers and blow***

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (X6fMO)

222 I don't believe that for a second. Colonel Sanders is a washed up old hippie Commie. Either Trump or Cruz would wipe the floor with him in a debate.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM (LUgeY)

It's 5.3, per RCP

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (xuouz)

223 180
Stop listening to liberals telling us what is best for us.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (8XRCm)



Trump is a liberal, you cunt.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (f4FYu)


So much for that rule about personal attacks. Who had 2 months on the poll?

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (3dOE/)

224 Folks know what they're getting with Trump.

No, we don't, People can speculate, but until he got into office we wouldn't know.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (w4NZ8)

225 THIS is what passes for News today? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:27 PM


The "Ooooooooh, Trump is AWFUL!!!" crowd here seem to be happy as pigs in shit.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (ZPz7d)

226 Hearts and minds, pal
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:28 PM (xuouz)

I'm sorry. I'm just tired of this meme that Trump is anything but a liberal.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (f4FYu)

227 Note that a Putin-Trump summit meeting would be between two teetotallers.
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Putin doesn't drink? That's amazing; he might be the only sober man in Russia.

Posted by: Justice Anthony Kennedy at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (LISuA)

228
I think I'mm just going to step way for bit.

Ya'all try not to trash the place...mmkay???

Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (8XRCm)

229 Boy this thread is bringing out some real winners?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (kzdjp)

230
143 - Political insights by Snooki
lol
and we wonder how boneheads like Obama get elected

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 01:31 PM (HgMAr)

231 There have been other things said that essentially mean, if you don't endorse ted cruz then you are a liar since you've been espousing conservatism and he is the conservative compared to Trump.


Link?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:31 PM (rwI+c)

232 Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (noWW6)

And what did she do to help change the law that she created that came back and bit her in the ass? Nothing .

It was like OJ promising to search for the real killers after he was found not guilty.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 01:31 PM (qbqnC)

233 I'm sorry. I'm just tired of this meme that Trump is anything but a liberal.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (f4FYu)

Don't apologize to me, apologize to fixerupper, who you called a cunt.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:31 PM (xuouz)

234 The "Ooooooooh, Trump is AWFUL!!!" crowd here seem to be happy as pigs in shit.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (ZPz7d)

yeah I noticed

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:31 PM (kzdjp)

235 Why does everybody buy into the polling when the polling at this point doesnt mean shit.

Trump does.

It's his whole campaign. It's all he talks about.

Self-awareness much?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 19, 2016 01:31 PM (Xd2w5)

236
A missed opportunity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvqJ1mTkEuY

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (kdS6q)

237 Also, why is it so outrageous to like two people in a race but ultimately go with the one you think has the best chance to win in the general and peel off some traditional democrat votes?

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There is nothing wrong with it. But to those of us who like her and who also like Cruz, when we see her attack Cruz merely because she is endorsing the other guy, we can think less of her going forward.

There is nothing wrong with saying I am endorsing Trump because I think he has the best chance. You don't have to call Cruz unlikable in the process.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (gmeXX)

238 175
Let's talk about the 900 lb gorilla:

who will the brokered convention nominate?
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (RcpcZ)

Rubio. He splits the difference: Not Trump, Kinda Hispanic.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (RD7QR)

239 Upon reading Palin's comments, I immediately thought of the phrase - Don't become what you hate. Apparently she has.

No one in Congress likes Cruz? Considering the rouges gallery that encompasses those walls and their approval rating that hangs below an IRS agent and a used car salesman, I'd say that is a plus.

Palin, you know who really hates him is McCain. You know that guy that stabbed you in the back?

Posted by: Cheri at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (oiNtH)

240 *rubs temples*

Jesus. Let's just admit we're fucked and get on with it, shall we? Somebody pass the hemlock.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (kpqmD)

241 I don't really see how either Trump or Cruz would benefit from a Sarah Palin endorsement in the general election, and only minimal in the primammaries.

Posted by: ugg boots at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (fbovC)

242 I mean, that is basically the exact same thing Palin is claiming -- Cruz appeared to be nice, but wow, what an unlikable guy.

Nobody likes him, you know.

*****

In fairness to Palin, Cruz does come off as extremely unlikable. At least, unless you're drinking the exact same koolaid he's serving. Then I guess he's the best thing to ever happen to the conservative movement, the next "Reagan," etc.

Posted by: Vyce at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (ggX8y)

243 "If she stayed governor and won re-election in 2010, she would have had a shot in 2012 against Obama. "

She was forced from office by shitty laws written by Democrats for just that purpose. She stepped down in order to save taxpayers millions in legal fees.

Posted by: navybrat at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (8QGte)

244 229 Boy this thread is bringing out some real winners?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (kzdjp)

I'm a full-time sTrumpet and even I'm surprised to see this idiot making us look like the levelheaded ones in here.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (xuouz)

245 Teh Sarah is all about the disruption. She's embraced the Outsider Persona and sees Trump as another outsider. This is actually logical if your brand is The Chick Who Disrupts the Status Quo and Supports Others Who Also Do So (TM).

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (RD7QR)
____

Trump has paid off anyone who ever came close to having political influence. How on earth is he an "outsider"? He is the ultimate insider.

If Palin really endorses him, it also tells you everything you need to know about the worth of her anti-crony-capitalism rants.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (nghs2)

246 Trumps younger brother was an alcoholic who drank himself to death at 42. Pretty sure that's why he doesn't drink.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (zOTsN)

247 The GOP really want to elect a democrat, don't they.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (vZtk3)

248 240
*rubs temples*



Jesus. Let's just admit we're fucked and get on with it, shall we? Somebody pass the hemlock.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (kpqmD)

And it's so early in the day! Barely the butt crack of noon!By the time the endorsement rolls around it'll be pistols at 10 paces.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (4ErVI)

249 Fine with me. Wouldn't offend me if he has an RC while I knock back some Jack.


Me neither.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (LUgeY)

250 Ah, I get why people support Trump--he's willing to reach across the aisle and work with Democrats, unlike our intransigent Republican Party.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (VAsIq)

251 I've always liked Palin, and have pretty much always defended her on this board. But I will be disappointed if she uses this as a way to attack Cruz. She can give her endorsement to whomever, and endorsing Trump doesn't bother me (I think it is a great endorsement for him). But if she attacks Cruz in the process, then I will finally have to get off the Palin bandwagon - at least for now - that so many have departed.

^^^^^ pretty much where I'm at, too, except it really haven't been on the Palin bandwagon for some time. I absolutely believe she got one hell of a raw deal from the GOPe and so she's had my sympathy, if not my active support, for the duration since. But this turning on Cruz when she was always effusively praising him less than a year ago strikes me as bad news. And you know when Beck (I know, I KNOW!!) went on his rant about her a few months back he mentioned that she and her husband kind of out of nowhere decided they hated him and never really gave a reason as to why she was his buddy one day and he was persona non grata the next. This abrupt turn on Cruz seems to verify that kind of duplicity.

I dunno. But the whole thing is just weird. This whole cycle is bizarre as shit.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (KkVB6)

252 Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:28 PM (f4FYu)



Doubt we'll be seeing this much longer

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (fWAjv)

253 That Snooki makes a damn persuasive case for the Hillz.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (8ZskC)

254 Trump is a liberal, you cunt.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (f4FYu)


You've convinced me.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (hLRSq)

255 210, Are you proud of that analysis? And I am sure you voted for Reagan 8 million times etc etc

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (COpZ4)

256 Trumps younger brother was an alcoholic who drank himself to death at 42. Pretty sure that's why he doesn't drink.
Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (zOTsN)


My sister is a lesbian, but I love pussy? Not the same thing?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (kzdjp)

257 112 If Palin comes out in support of Trump, it would not be out of her zone of trying to pick winners. If she saw Cruz as winning, she might just be supporting him.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette

This is what I was thinking about saying. And her overall successful pick rate is pretty impressive. Unlike that other Shit Midas, Karl Rove.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (gyKtp)

258 Palin, you know who really hates him is McCain. You know that guy that stabbed you in the back?

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Ah, maybe that is it. McCain has at least publicly always supported Palin.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (gmeXX)

259 A lot of PROJECTION in these comments.


Posted by: nip at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (r73Jl)

260
Stock up on trade goods. Beaver traps. Ammo. Whiskey. Ho Ho's. Peanut Butter.

Posted by: simplemind at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (JTwsP)

261 primammaries

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Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 01:35 PM (cbfNE)

262 I didn't vote for Reagan because I was born 2 years into his first term. I voted Bush in 2004, McCain 2008, and Romney 2012. Thanks for asking.

Posted by: VBJonny at January 19, 2016 01:35 PM (NX9H4)

263 Stock up on trade goods. Beaver traps. Ammo. Whiskey. Ho Ho's. Peanut Butter.


Feminine Hygiene Products

*touchesnose*

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:35 PM (rwI+c)

264 Anti trump FUD 24/7

Posted by: ChocoCheese at January 19, 2016 01:35 PM (qthd9)

265 Ah, maybe that is it. McCain has at least publicly always supported Palin.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (gmeXX)

And she him. On one level I get it because he punched her ticket. On another level ckuf it's ckufing McCain.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 01:35 PM (4ErVI)

266
#180
Posted by: Flapjackmaka



Yeah, got to think that one might be a tad over the line, insulting other posters wise.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 01:35 PM (kdS6q)

267 Stock up on trade goods. Beaver traps. Ammo. Whiskey. Ho Ho's. Peanut Butter.
Posted by: simplemind at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (JTwsP)


Always good advice to live by....I am stockpiling MREs also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:35 PM (kzdjp)

268 Another thought about Palin's post-2008 trajectory, this one not my own, but conveyed to me by a longtime Alaskan.

She had initially come in as a clean-handed reformer, mounting a direct frontal challenge to the extremely inbred and incredibly corrupt GOP establishment in AK.

It's funny when I hear liberals bash Palin as "a tool of Big Oil", when really part of Palin's initial presentation to the Alaska voters was as a populist who was going to square away the state's dealings with Big Oil, widely perceived at the time to be too financially lenient regarding royalties. A scheme signed off on by the sleazy local Republican machine.

Palin arrived and started tearing down a bunch of comfortable sinecures and cozy side deals. At first to acclaim.

Old rule, though: if you strike at the King, strike to kill on the first blow.

Palin had damaged the Alaska GOP establishment, but not destroyed it. Taking the nod as the VP with Old Man Yells With Clouds removed her from the local loop at a crucial juncture, and let her enemies retrench. The Republican machine quietly conferred and made common cause with Alaska Democrats to get rid of the troublemaker.

So when Palin returned in defeat, she walked into a hornets' nest of unified opposition. And was never able to get back her initial momentum and popularity.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 01:35 PM (noWW6)

269 Palin backed Nikki Haley early--when it really mattered. No Palin, no Haley.


You mean way back when Palin was politically active and her endorsement meant something?

Look, conservatives/Tea Partiers backing Trump will be delighted, others maybe not so much. Time will tell.

Posted by: Joanne Hearts Cruz But Will Vote for Trump at January 19, 2016 01:36 PM (hgBpU)

270 Just found a dove frozen to my birdbath. Poured warm water in to get his feet free and then nudged him out. He flew away. Pretty dang cold.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 19, 2016 01:36 PM (2cS/G)

271 Trump has paid off anyone who ever came close to having political influence. How on earth is he an "outsider"? He is the ultimate insider.
If Palin really endorses him, it also tells you everything you need to know about the worth of her anti-crony-capitalism rants.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (nghs2)


Carly Fiorina pointed that out at the last debate (kiddie table).

Posted by: jwb7605 at January 19, 2016 01:36 PM (DofIg)

272 >>This is what I was thinking about saying. And her overall successful pick rate is pretty impressive.


Except when it isn't.

Posted by: Skylined Caribou at January 19, 2016 01:36 PM (b99VK)

273 Stock up on trade goods. Beaver traps. Ammo. Whiskey. Ho Ho's. Peanut Butter.

Posted by: simplemind at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (JTwsP)


How could you miss cigarettes and coffee??

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 19, 2016 01:36 PM (zc3Db)

274 So, flame war again?

Posted by: L,Elle at January 19, 2016 01:36 PM (2x3L+)

275 Every candidate is a gamble. Put not your faith in princes. Cruz or Trump I want someone who knows how the game is played and can beat them. Not a virgin or a homecoming king. But I want someone who can win. Not sure either can do both, beat the establishment at their game and win the general election

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:36 PM (zOTsN)

276 My sister is a lesbian, but I love pussy? Not the same thing?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (kzdjp)

Did she die from munching a tainted hoo-ha? I know lots of people with alcoholics in their family who got turned off of the whole idea.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (xuouz)

277 Posted by: tops116 at January 19, 2016 01:28 PM (Wn+fE)

Winner.

And that whole history of liberalism is ready for a negative ad if some dumbass PAC can get off their asses.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (Xd2w5)

278 227 Note that a Putin-Trump summit meeting would be between two teetotallers.
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Putin doesn't drink? That's amazing; he might be the only sober man in Russia.

In the land of rampant alcoholism, the sober man is king.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (kpqmD)

279 So, she really does align with McCain. That makes her truly irrelevant.

Posted by: Beffy at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (9eYoy)

280 And she him. On one level I get it because he punched her ticket. On another level ckuf it's ckufing McCain.

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Its one reason why I have always liked her. She had certain reasons to not support McCain, but she did. Personal loyalty - while it should be the be all end all - does matter.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (gmeXX)

281
a Sarah Palin endorsement in the general election, and only minimal in the primammaries.
Posted by: ugg boots




Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (kdS6q)

282 "If she stayed governor and won re-election in 2010, she would have had a shot in 2012 against Obama. "

She was forced from office by shitty laws written by Democrats for just that purpose. She stepped down in order to save taxpayers millions in legal fees.
Posted by: navybrat"

Bailing mid-term ended her chances at running for President. Unfair perhaps, but it is what it is.

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (OD2ni)

283 off topic but news, seen at weaselz:

Bomb threats were phoned in to more than a dozen schools in New Jersey, Massachusetts, Delaware and Iowa early on Tuesday, forcing evacuations or lockdowns, law enforcement officials and media reports said.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (qSIlh)

284 245 Teh Sarah is all about the disruption. She's embraced the Outsider Persona and sees Trump as another outsider. This is actually logical if your brand is The Chick Who Disrupts the Status Quo and Supports Others Who Also Do So (TM).

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (RD7QR)
____

Trump has paid off anyone who ever came close to having political influence. How on earth is he an "outsider"? He is the ultimate insider.

If Palin really endorses him, it also tells you everything you need to know about the worth of her anti-crony-capitalism rants.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (nghs2)

Perception. I like Sarah, especially when she wears the running shorts, but she's not policy wonk. She goes with the perception she senses and the perception of Trump is that he's an outsider and a disruptive force.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 19, 2016 01:38 PM (RD7QR)

285 I know lots of people with alcoholics in their family who got turned off of the whole idea.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (xuouz)

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Same with smoking.

Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 01:38 PM (cbfNE)

286 What a ballyhoo

A possible Palin endorsement is a blogger's answered prayer for eyeballs, isn't it?

Posted by: mrp at January 19, 2016 01:38 PM (JBggj)

287 224 Folks know what they're getting with Trump.

No, we don't, People can speculate, but until he got into office we wouldn't know.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (w4NZ


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One could say that for most every candidate that's run for prez. Only three or four exceptions to that.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 01:38 PM (Fmupd)

288 Yeah, got to think that one might be a tad over the line, insulting other posters wise.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 01:35 PM (kdS6q)

I believe we've driven him off but I'd be willing to assemble a party and follow him into the woods to finish the job.

Or we could just sit here with the hammer and barrel and see if he peeks back in.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:38 PM (xuouz)

289 Trump took Sarah out for pizza in 2011 in NYC when she was running around in her bus hinting that she might run for President:

"The ROI (return on investment) for those couple of slices ....YUUUUUUUGE, I'm telling you. Can I make a deal or what!" D. Trump

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2016 01:38 PM (r1fLd)

290 Bomb threats were phoned in to more than a dozen schools in New Jersey, Massachusetts, Delaware and Iowa early on Tuesday, forcing evacuations or lockdowns, law enforcement officials and media reports said.


Kind of early for midterms.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 01:38 PM (rwI+c)

291 Sarah Palin is almost as dumb as her stupid daughter if she endorses Trump.

I wonder how much Trump is paying her to do so? Cuz you know she doesn't do anything unless it lines her pockets.. he probably will hold up her book or something at the very least.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 19, 2016 01:38 PM (so+oy)

292 251, she won't attack cruz, but he needs to keep his spokes mouths on a fucking leash. She isn't going to put up with that shit from the GOP consultants like in the past.

If the Cruz team had any brains they would put out this statement....

"We are disappointed Sarah endorsed Trump, but that is what elections are all about and we certainly hold no ill will towards her. We look forward to her support once Ted Cruz wins the nomination."

Then just move on. If they start melting down and sending the spokes mouths to networks to trash her call her names, irrelevant, she revealed she isn't really pro life, and shit like that, then, well you know.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (COpZ4)

293 I hate Palin, but I do think Cruz and his people stepped in it and should have just let it happen without trying to insult Palin as a sellout.


Palin sticking the unlikeable label on him is reinforcing what voters know and his biggest weakness. Even Cruz said in the debates "maybe I'm not the guy you want to have a beer with" Even he knows he's off-putting.

You can't wing 51% of the vote without some element of charisma, Cruz supposed ideological purity is not going to capture America.

Posted by: Valdez at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (nq/J2)

294 Bomb threats were phoned in to more than a dozen schools in New Jersey, Massachusetts, Delaware and Iowa early on Tuesday, forcing evacuations or lockdowns, law enforcement officials and media reports said.
Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (qSIlh)

As I said above...Tests started this week for many of those Schools

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (kzdjp)

295 Ugh, way to play into the MSM's gleeful stoking of the Cruz hate and the Cruz/Trump dust-up.

I don't follow Palin (or Bristol) on twitter or FB, but thanks for giving them the hickbilly squabble they're looking for.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (NOIQH)

296 I'm sorry. I'm just tired of this meme that Trump is anything but a liberal.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (f4FYu)


I don't think anybody has claimed that Trump is a conservative. What Trump appears to be is a nationalist, and the thought of anyone in high elected federal office deciding to put the well-being of the United States and its citizens before that of foreigners is so refreshing it makes me dizzy.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (hLRSq)

297 REAGAN was fifteen points behind Carter in "the polling" just weeks before the election.

Stop listening to liberals telling us what is best for us.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (8XRCm)

_____

Carter did not lead anyone by 15%, weeks before the election. Try again.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (0LHZx)

298 World's oldest man dies at age 112

I've wondered from time to time how people who are close to 100 nowadays must feel like they've lived two completely different lives. I mean, you could have witnessed the Wright Brothers AND watched the moon landing. That is crazy to me. Yeah, I was a kid without a cell phone and now I have one, and yes, it's a technological feat, but it still doesn't seem as huge as the first example.

Posted by: Mainah at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (659DL)

299 Put not your faith in princes.
Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:36 PM (zOTsN)

This can't be said enough. It's about what he'll do, not who he is or how he makes me feeeeeel.

And that goes for whatever candidate "he" might refer to.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (xuouz)

300 Surely someone doesn't have to answer for being a non-drinker, do they?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (oVJmc)

301 "Putin doesn't drink? That's amazing; he might be the only sober man in Russia.

In the land of rampant alcoholism, the sober man is king."


Have you seen pictures of his gymnast girlfriend? Talk about incentive to stay sober so you can "perform."

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 19, 2016 01:40 PM (OD2ni)

302 It's funny that people think Trump would even consider sitting down and having a drink with the common folk. What leads you to believe he would? Because he talks crude like 'regular' people?

Just recently he admonished the golf industry because they are trying to make the game more accessible to the masses. Sheesh. He's never been 'regular' folk.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 01:40 PM (qbqnC)

303 Gotta love that hypocrisy.

Posted by: tops116 at January 19, 2016 01:28 PM (Wn+fE)


You're out measuring the hip room of new cars to find the best buy, while the rest of the country is looking at the styling and buying the best looking one.

In case you missed it, the only issue in this election is if you're a politician or not. We've found through experience that regardless of what politicians say, when they get to DC everything changes.

People sense that Trump is motivated by Trump's ego, and that he will do whatever is necessary to make him look good. People also sense that shit will actually change and get done under Trump, as opposed to others.

Are there better candidates on paper? Sure.

But can they get elected or change things once there?

Time to think this one through, Buckwheat.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 01:40 PM (Zs4uk)

304 285 I know lots of people with alcoholics in their family who got turned off of the whole idea.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:37 PM (xuouz)
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Same with smoking.
Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 01:38 PM (cbfNE)


Donald Trump will ban both tobacco and alcohol using an endorsement by Sarah Palin!

You have to study comments hard to glean insights like this.

Posted by: jwb7605 at January 19, 2016 01:40 PM (DofIg)

305 I'm sorry. I'm just tired of this meme that Trump is anything but a liberal.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka


Calm down, spaz.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 19, 2016 01:40 PM (W0RfD)

306 Cruz:

"If you want someone to grab a beer with, I may not be that guy..."

When Cruz handed out teddy bears and soccer balls to invaders with Glenn Beck I knew he wasn't my guy. He has supported most of the globalist agenda until recently. He made a fool of himself with the duck hunting bit too. He is a panderer.

Posted by: Chris Vaughn at January 19, 2016 01:40 PM (GQ4b4)

307 It's possible Palin sees Trump pissing off the consultant class that betrayed her and simply sees that as a good thing.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 19, 2016 01:40 PM (oVJmc)

308 224 Folks know what they're getting with Trump.

No, we don't, People can speculate, but until he got into office we wouldn't know.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:30 PM (w4NZ

Agreed. I will pull the lever for Trump if he gets the nod, and I like that he's giving the GOPe fits, but I have no idea what the hell he would really do if he won it all and that bothers me.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at January 19, 2016 01:40 PM (KkVB6)

309 That Snooki makes a damn persuasive case for the Hillz.Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (8ZskC)......................I'll wait until The Situation weighs in.

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (HgMAr)

310 And she him. On one level I get it because he punched her ticket. On another level ckuf it's ckufing McCain.


Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

He never (that I know of) publicly trashed her but he had plenty on his team that did including his daughter. Where did that come from other than the old man?

Posted by: Cheri at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (oiNtH)

311 "300 Surely someone doesn't have to answer for being a non-drinker, do they?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel"


Nope. More for me. Hic

Posted by: Hillary at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (OD2ni)

312 I will note... this came from BRISTOL Palin... not Sarah...

The entire premise of the post is misleading.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (f7rv6)

313 As a side note, won't this give her another 15 minutes?


Posted by: GnuBreed at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (gyKtp)

314 Stop me if you've already heard this one:

Two Corinthians walk into a bar...

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (b99VK)

315 People who simultaneously say an endorsement is irrelevant, while also spitting blood in anger that they didn't get said endorsement is just ridiculous. Politics is Hollywood for ugly people, as they say.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (COpZ4)

316 We have no idea what we are gonna get from Trump.

He has done a 180 degree turn on almost every issue important to GOP voters.. he was very pro-choice.. he loved Hillary and spoke highly of her as the best Secretary of State.

He's a serial liar - almost as bad as the Clintons.. I have no idea how many of youse guys can be fooled by him.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (so+oy)

317 "I'm too busy changing the diapers of all of my illegitimate bastard children, but if you did say that OMG no you di-int!" - Bristol Palin

Jesus, Palin was the only reason I wasn't 100% depressed voting for angry grandpa in 2008, but even then I remember having a WTF reaction to her "that's our oil!" referring to all Alaskans.

Oh well, I've already transitioned to Liberty Health Share from real insurance thanks to Obama. Maybe Palin supporting Trump's single payer will save me some money.

Posted by: VBJonny at January 19, 2016 01:42 PM (NX9H4)

318 Just found a dove frozen to my birdbath.


This is what it sounds like
when doves cry

Posted by: Prince at January 19, 2016 01:42 PM (fbovC)

319 300 Surely someone doesn't have to answer for being a non-drinker, do they?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (oVJmc)

I'm sorry, I didn't see you chug and valurite when you came in here.

You got a job or something?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:42 PM (xuouz)

320 If Iowa is as close as pundits have been saying for the last two weeks, then Palin's endorsement might be the difference maker in terms of nudging Trump into the lead. The timing is more or less perfect in terms of hitting the home stretch as Cruz seems to be ebbing a bit. Palin surely has more than a few supporters in Iowa who have been bouncing back and forth between Trump and Cruz. I understand why folks here are grumbling for a variety of reasons, and Palin's is only gonna make the circus even bigger than before, but I think it's foolish to say her endorsement is insignificant.

*shrugs*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 19, 2016 01:42 PM (21hN3)

321 With Bristol, it's not so much a cache anymore......it's more like a cavern.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at January 19, 2016 01:42 PM (StUx+)

322 64 If she does endorse Trump, it's basically her revenge on the GOP-elite for what they did to her. They disrespected her when she was McCain's running mate, and now she's going to deliver the nutshot of all nutshots in return.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 19, 2016 01:05 PM (iIzG7)

Why would she not endorse Cruz then? Senate republicans hate him and he's not a liberal on pretty much every issue like Trump.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:10 PM (f4FYu)

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To insider enough.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 19, 2016 01:42 PM (LXJ1e)

323 Why does anybody still give a shit about Sarah Palin or what thinks? She was a governor. She was a losing VP candidate. What else? Your 15 minutes are up.

Posted by: chiefjaybob at January 19, 2016 01:43 PM (cgH9o)

324 @320 Walter Freeman is right on. Sarah's endorsement is a boost in SC as well.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2016 01:43 PM (r1fLd)

325 I will note... this came from BRISTOL Palin... not Sarah...

The entire premise of the post is misleading.

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She did link to it. May not be a complete endorsement of Britol's thoughts, but suggestive of it.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:43 PM (gmeXX)

326 314
Stop me if you've already heard this one:



Two Corinthians walk into a bar...

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Q: Are they wearing Corinthian leather?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn (Tanned and Rested) at January 19, 2016 01:43 PM (UhRGU)

327 I've always respected Palin's opinions, but with this it's over, and same for her stupid baby mama daughter.

The people making personal attacks on Cruz are the nasty people. Cruz fights about policy, not this personal shit.

Posted by: stace at January 19, 2016 01:44 PM (CoX6k)

328 "He's a serial liar - almost as bad as the Clintons.. I have no idea how many of youse guys can be fooled by him."

Not nearly as bad as a President Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: mrp at January 19, 2016 01:44 PM (JBggj)

329 Man. Mixing Trump Palin and Cruz is like ammonia, bleach and gasoline.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:44 PM (zOTsN)

330
312 I will note... this came from BRISTOL Palin... not Sarah...

The entire premise of the post is misleading.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (f7rv6)


OK... my bad.... just saw Sarah HAd retweeted it...

sorry

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 01:44 PM (f7rv6)

331 Time to buy as much Taco Bell stock as you can. And that of whoever makes Brawndo.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 19, 2016 01:44 PM (tE8K2)

332 >>He never (that I know of) publicly trashed her but he had plenty on his
team that did including his daughter. Where did that come from other
than the old man?

Almost certain McCain has trashed her publicly, but I'm too lazy to Bing it. McCain trashes everyone, and he was content to let his campaign consultants Nicole Wallace and Mike Schmidt trash her all over the MSM and to the Game Change authors (reporters). He is a grade A jerk.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 01:44 PM (NOIQH)

333 >>> I'm sorry. I'm just tired of this meme that Trump is anything but a liberal.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka
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Concern noted.

What's your damn problem?

Posted by: L,Elle at January 19, 2016 01:44 PM (2x3L+)

334 When Cruz handed out teddy bears and soccer balls to invaders with Glenn Beck I knew he wasn't my guy. He has supported most of the globalist agenda until recently. He made a fool of himself with the duck hunting bit too. He is a panderer.

Posted by: Chris Vaughn at January 19, 2016 01:40 PM (GQ4b4)
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I take Cruz with his teddy bears (though I disagree) over Trump, whose first reaction to Syrian rapefugees was "you gotta take em in", any day of the week.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 19, 2016 01:44 PM (nghs2)

335 309 That Snooki makes a damn persuasive case for the Hillz.Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 19, 2016 01:33 PM (8ZskC)......................I'll wait until The Situation weighs in.
Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (HgMAr)

Don't be hatin'!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (kpqmD)

336 270 Just found a dove frozen to my birdbath. Poured warm water in to get his feet free and then nudged him out. He flew away. Pretty dang cold.
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 19, 2016 01:36 PM (2cS/G)

You'll never be shat on from above again. (And you did a good deed too.)

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

337 Wow as the voting gets closer people really seen to be losing their shxt this year

BBL going to stock up on Jameson for the coming Primary Wars

Posted by: ginaswo at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (qxNrP)

338 Maybe Palin's just a little pissed off that he's talking about her as though she's on Team Trump, when she hasn't said anything - and is just making a joke to show her relevance and disapproval.

For all we know, the rumor is BS, and she has no intention of choosing sides yet.

I'm no Palin expert, but Trump doesn't really seem like the kind of guy that the Mainstream Tea Party (maybe I made up a term there) would go head-over-heels for.

At any rate, you don't get a good track record of "picking winners" by being emotional and impulsive - or are you going to try to tell me that a Palin endorsement itself is decisively meaningful? I imagine it helps a candidate, but mostly, she's just good at sizing up candidates and doesn't associate with them unless they're winners, I would think.

But I could be wrong!...

Posted by: Optimizer at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (/q6+P)

339 There is no bigger Trump supporter than me and I have to say I am deeply dissapointed with this line of attack because there are actually legitimate Conservstive grounds to attack Cruz.

Also I heard a disturbing interview with Trump yesterday about how Ted is a nasty guy and he won't be able to get deals done and that you have to be able to get into the room and get deals done.

Getting deals done with the likes of McConnel and Ryan, Pelosi and Reid??

Fuck that shit.

You better walk that shit back or explain it more thoroughly or you've lost me Donald.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (9XuqE)

340 "Putin doesn't drink? That's amazing; he might be the only sober man in Russia. In the land of rampant alcoholism, the sober man is king."

In his case it's not because of bad family example. It apparently goes back to the late Soviet era. When Putin was in service as an officer of the KGB.

Putin was a true believer who was doing his best to save the Communist system, and who saw that rampant alcoholism was corroding social mores and socialist commitment throughout the USSR. And he thought it was particularly bad that even the elite intelligence services were full of dysfunctional drunks.

He started quietly pushing sobriety on his fellow chekists, and put himself forth as an example for them to follow. He's stuck with it ever since.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (noWW6)

341 I've wondered from time to time how people who are
close to 100 nowadays must feel like they've lived two completely
different lives. I mean, you could have witnessed the Wright Brothers
AND watched the moon landing. That is crazy to me. Yeah, I was a kid
without a cell phone and now I have one, and yes, it's a technological
feat, but it still doesn't seem as huge as the first example.

Posted by: Mainah at January 19, 2016 01:39 PM (659DL)

Heh was talking to someone the other day and somehow the name Laura Ingalls Wilder got brought up. I said imagine how jarring it must have been to remember traveling west in a covered wagon and then living long enough to see airplanes, the atomic bomb, and cars.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (4ErVI)

342 "Q: Are they wearing Corinthian leather?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn (Tanned and Rested)"


I hope so. Everyone should.

Posted by: Zombie Ricardo Mantelban at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (OD2ni)

343 Stock up on trade goods. Beaver traps. Ammo. Whiskey. Ho Ho's. Peanut Butter.

Posted by: simplemind at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (JTwsP)
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Sounds like getting ready for a trip to Nola at Mardi Gras time.

Posted by: MTF at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (LISuA)

344 World's oldest man dies at age 112


Mel Brooks is dead?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (LUgeY)

345 I saw 30 seconds of Snooki's show where she was at a clug and had to pee. Instead of finding the restroom, she found a dark corner, pulled down her panties, and peed on the floor. Disgusting.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM (iQIUe)

346
Stock up on trade goods. Beaver traps. Ammo. Whiskey. Ho Ho's. Peanut Butter.

Posted by: simplemind at January 19, 2016 01:34 PM (JTwsP)

How could you miss cigarettes and coffee??
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 19, 2016 01:36 PM (zc3Db)
.............

Beanie Weenie and Spam.

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM (HgMAr)

347 Palin/Crossbow/Hardwood

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM (oVJmc)

348 You can't wing 51% of the vote without some element of charisma....

Posted by: Valdez

Not anymore, you mean.

Posted by: Richard Nixon at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM (VAsIq)

349 Q: Are they wearing Corinthian leather?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn
,,,,,,,,,,
That's "FINE Corinthian leather" to you, my friend..

Posted by: Ricardo Montalban at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM (so+oy)

350 You think saying ' ...this is why no one likes Cruz' is mild and not ad hominem?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 01:23 PM (qbqnC)


mild? yes. She didn't actually make any argument at all.

At this point, she is some lady posting on twitter a link to her idiot daughters thoughts. Maybe she's being a sneak bitch by not saying it herself, but what she actually said is phrased as a question. If I said 'is this why people don't like trump' and pointed to a trumpy thing that he did that was annoying, that would be mild too.

Posted by: Lea at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM (lIU4e)

351 320 If Iowa is as close as pundits have been saying for the last two weeks, then Palin's endorsement might be the difference maker in terms of nudging Trump into the lead. The timing is more or less perfect in terms of hitting the home stretch as Cruz seems to be ebbing a bit. Palin surely has more than a few supporters in Iowa who have been bouncing back and forth between Trump and Cruz. I understand why folks here are grumbling for a variety of reasons, and Palin's is only gonna make the circus even bigger than before, but I think it's foolish to say her endorsement is insignificant.

*shrugs*
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 19, 2016 01:42 PM (21hN3)

_____

A perfect example of why the primary process is so fucked up in allowing Iowa to dictate what happens.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM (0LHZx)

352 Time to think this one through, Buckwheat.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 01:40 PM (Zs4uk)


And the personal attacks from those who don't like Trump continue...

How.... predictable...

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM (f7rv6)

353 This tells me Cruz thinks if he doesn't at least win Iowa, it's over for him. So all in on Iowa. Never mind the guy who wins Iowa has not been the candidate for a long while

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM (zOTsN)

354 "I will note that preemptively bitching about it was a real bonehead move by Ted's spokeshole."

The point of that response was not re: Sarah Palin. It was re: Trump's liberal history. Which is correct.

Aside, since I don't hang out long enough for extended conversations: I think a lot of the electorate is too stupid for Cruz. They don't understand his tactics (which, for a freshman Senator, are exceptional), they misread his messaging because they simply believe rivals' spun interpretations/headlines as fact, and they dislike his speaking style because he sounds 'like a snake oil lawyer.'

I've lost count of the "I like Cruz's positions, but he's unlikeable" nonsense that flows like water from Moses' rock in certain conservative circles. It stinks of anti-intellectual bias that liberals always allege but conservatives swear doesn't exist.

Posted by: Apostate at January 19, 2016 01:47 PM (QzX8V)

355 I'm an "animal guy", can't stand to see them in distress. I blame/credit my parents.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 19, 2016 01:47 PM (2cS/G)

356 Posted by: Optimizer at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (/q6+P)


Palin gushed about Marchel Le Pen a few weeks ago, so it seems she's staking ground in the pro-nationalism movement.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 01:47 PM (4ErVI)

357 Ace crossed the streams with this one.

Posted by: L,Elle at January 19, 2016 01:47 PM (2x3L+)

358 Now we just have to wait for the coveted Christine O'Donnell endorsement.

O'Donnell posted on Facebook asking people why they were supporting Trump when much of his history is in support of leftish policies and leftish politicians. (In her defense, she claimed to ask this as a real question, that is, trying to understand the appeal and what convinced them.)

So you'll have to wait for a real spell just as BB said

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 19, 2016 01:47 PM (2lndx)

359 And the personal attacks from those who don't like Trump continue...

How.... predictable...
Posted by: BB Wolf


Weird how they are so angry.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 19, 2016 01:47 PM (W0RfD)

360 347 Palin/Crossbow/Hardwood
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM (oVJmc)

Haley/Longbow/Shag.

(It's ON.)

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 19, 2016 01:48 PM (RD7QR)

361 316 We have no idea what we are gonna get from Trump.
He has done a 180 degree turn on almost every issue important to GOP voters.. he was very pro-choice.. he loved Hillary and spoke highly of her as the best Secretary of State.
He's a serial liar - almost as bad as the Clintons.. I have no idea how many of youse guys can be fooled by him.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (so+oy)

So he's comfortable moving with that crowd and knows what makes them tick, and is currently running against their incompetence.

The policies don't matter. Social Security would be a fantastic program if it was run honestly and competently. We need to do what works. That's what he's saying.

And he could actually win, and put a crimp in the dems' style, unlike a single one of the R candidates in the last two elections. And you know it's true.

Get over the aesthetics of it.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:48 PM (xuouz)

362 AM I NOT MERCIFUL?

Posted by: Emporer Barakus Ten Puttus at January 19, 2016 01:48 PM (Hz9na)

363 I like Cruz and think his spokesperson showed great restraint.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 19, 2016 01:48 PM (OrI3J)

364 Egypt revokes citizenship of Jewish woman - because she joined the IDF
Born as Rouleen Abdullah in Alexandria, Dina Ovadia didn't even know she was Jewish until the age of 15; she moved to Jerusalem with her family, but angered Cairo when she joined the 'occupation army.'

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4755188,00.html

Good Story...worth the read

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:48 PM (kzdjp)

365 Two Corinthians walk into a bar...

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 01:41 PM (b99VK)



Ace and I will utilize their hides to produce a soft, rich leather for upholstering the newest Chrysler luxury cars.

Posted by: Ricardo Montalban at January 19, 2016 01:49 PM (GUBah)

366 @337 "Wow as the voting gets closer people really seen to be losing their shxt this year"


Yesterday I was claiming that 216 is ALREADY nuttier than 2000 was, and we haven't even had a single primary vote cast yet!! That was after uber-conservative National Review published a Cruz attack ad extolling the virtues on NYC (which elected a mayor people call "practically communist"). Isn't that one of the signs of a coming apocalypse?

Posted by: Optimizer at January 19, 2016 01:49 PM (/q6+P)

367 Also I heard a disturbing interview with Trump yesterday about how Ted is a nasty guy and he won't be able to get deals done and that you have to be able to get into the room and get deals done.

Getting deals done with the likes of McConnel and Ryan, Pelosi and Reid??

Fuck that shit.

You better walk that shit back or explain it more thoroughly or you've lost me Donald.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 19, 2016 01:45 PM (9XuqE)

____

Funny how Republicans always need to be deal makers, but never Democrats. How many deals has Obama done with Republicans? Well I mean deals where he didn't get 95%+ of what he wanted.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:49 PM (0LHZx)

368 A lot of nasty, immature comments, which I guessed would happen once I saw Trump and Palin in the same sentence. As far as likability, Ben Carson should win that one.

Posted by: IC at January 19, 2016 01:49 PM (a0IVu)

369 271 Trump has paid off anyone who ever came close to having political influence. How on earth is he an "outsider"? He is the ultimate insider.
If Palin really endorses him, it also tells you everything you need to know about the worth of her anti-crony-capitalism rants.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 19, 2016 01:32 PM (nghs2)

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Typically the outsiders have to pay off the insiders to get things done.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 19, 2016 01:49 PM (LXJ1e)

370 Weird how they are so angry.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 19, 2016 01:47 PM (W0RfD)

There are lots of "I'm smarter than everyone else" bowtie conservatives who are full-out social liberals and just talk "pragmatic conservatism" to be contrarian at parties.

It's an aesthetic choice for them.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:49 PM (xuouz)

371 "2016", and "Attack article"

Ugh!

Posted by: Optimizer at January 19, 2016 01:50 PM (/q6+P)

372 I've seen personal attacks from p-eople who are not on the Trump bandwagon, and on other sites they're basically unreadable it's so vitriolic. As far as the "c" word that's going way over the line.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:50 PM (w4NZ8)

373 95 There's a lawyer who subs as host for a local conservative AM radio talk-show host in my area. He's faced off against Cruz in the courtroom and this dude HATES Cruz with a passion. Every time he's on the radio he goes on about how Cruz MUST not be the nominee and he'll do anything to stop him.

...
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 19, 2016 01:13 PM (r9tFS)

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Posted by: Simone at January 19, 2016 01:50 PM (P5mpr)

374 Huck won Iowa, and last time I checked he didn't become President. The next several states is what will determine it.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at January 19, 2016 01:50 PM (COpZ4)

375 Rush just played Obama butchering the log in the eye. Draw from the Bible. I laughed out loud. Jeez he's a stupid Fcuk.

If the MSM didn't have double standards they'd have no standards.

No mention of Palin by Rush. Did I miss it in the first hour?

Posted by: Golfman at January 19, 2016 01:50 PM (V0kRy)

376 Trump is a liberal, you cunt.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (f4FYu)
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Better watch it, ban stick might make an appearance.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 01:50 PM (MbrzC)

377 >>>World's oldest man dies at age 112



http://bbc.in/1PnrvJX

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (iQIUe)<<<

Bullshit. Vic posted at #70. And I'm not seeing him, so it's not a buzzion situation.

Posted by: ghost of Jeff Goldblum at January 19, 2016 01:50 PM (H9MG5)

378 meant-personal attacks from people who ARE on the Trump bandwagon. No side is entirely faultless.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:50 PM (w4NZ8)

379 So what are the odds this puts Trump over the top in Iowa?

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (oDCMR)

380 Get over the aesthetics of it.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:48 PM (xuouz)
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Aesthetics? Sheesh, and here I thought we were talking about principles and ideology!

Posted by: MTF at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (LISuA)

381
OT - Pregnant Chelsea Clinton takes a break from campaign trail for a stay at one of Turks and Caicos' priciest resorts where villas cost up to $34,000 per night.

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (HgMAr)

382 Is a conservative not allowed to dislike someone on personality grounds? Or does it always come down to some % ideological score?

Palin seems to like Trump, so she endorses him.

Or maybe it is ideological, and immigration is really important to her and Cruz's former position on it (like massively expanding the amount of visas) disqualifies him in her eyes.

I do think Palin hurts Cruz with the voters he most needs right now, but I could still easily see Cruz winning Iowa because I'm not sure if Trump is really putting any resources on the ground.

Posted by: Valdez at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (nq/J2)

383 Sessions and Palin will be in his ear. Trump will govern more conservative than you think. More than McCain would have, I guarantee.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (COpZ4)

384 375 Rush just played Obama butchering the log in the eye. Draw from the Bible. I laughed out loud. Jeez he's a stupid Fcuk.

If the MSM didn't have double standards they'd have no standards.

No mention of Palin by Rush. Did I miss it in the first hour?
Posted by: Golfman at January 19, 2016 01:50 PM (V0kRy)

Regard not the sphincter in your brother's eye!

Posted by: Barack Obama, the adult in the room at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (RD7QR)

385 It matters to me who is pitcher and who is catcher


Are you buying the influence or selling the influence. I dislike the sellers

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (zOTsN)

386 "I've wondered from time to time how people who are close to 100 nowadays
must feel like they've lived two completely different lives. I mean,
you could have witnessed the Wright Brothers AND watched the moon
landing."

I'm not even close to 100 and still in my lifetime I've watched America go from being the world's unquestioned superpower in every way, to its present enfeebled, hollowed, decrepit, distracted, stuporous condition.

I have every expectation of watching America completely come apart at the seams during my later old age. And won't that be fun, trying and failing to handle a flood of Lord Humungous types from my walker.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (noWW6)

387 @368 "A lot of nasty, immature comments, which I guessed would happen once I saw Trump and Palin in the same sentence. ..."


I thought it would get better as the field narrowed. It was a nice little fantasy world to hang out in for a while!

Posted by: Optimizer at January 19, 2016 01:52 PM (/q6+P)

388 More than McCain would have, I guarantee.

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This limbo stick is too low.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:52 PM (gmeXX)

389 I'm sorry. I'm just tired of this meme that Trump is anything but a liberal.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka


Look, I'm a Cruz fan, but I will vote for the Donald if it comes to that.

I don't think anybody here thinks Trump is a conservative, but you have to admit, we should all be a little (or a lot) grateful he's running. If he didn't, there's no doubt in my mind we'd be talking about a choice between Jeb or Rubio or Christie or Katshit.

Posted by: Joanne Hearts Cruz But Will Vote for Trump at January 19, 2016 01:52 PM (hgBpU)

390 364 Egypt revokes citizenship of Jewish woman - because she joined the IDF
Born as Rouleen Abdullah in Alexandria, Dina Ovadia didn't even know she was Jewish until the age of 15; she moved to Jerusalem with her family, but angered Cairo when she joined the 'occupation army.'

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4755188,00.html

Good Story...worth the read
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:48 PM (kzdjp)

_______

Let's change a few things around.

At 16 years old, Michael Smith finds out his real name is Miguel Martinez and his family is from Mexico. At 18, he joins the Mexican army.

Would you be up in arms if his US citizenship were revoked?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:52 PM (0LHZx)

391 379
So what are the odds this puts Trump over the top in Iowa?

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (oDCMR)

Hmm? I wasn't paying attention. I was instead thinking about how it's going to go over upstairs when buzzion tries to shoehorn in on the new band God's putting together.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 01:53 PM (4ErVI)

392 I would love to see Sarah appointed as HUD Secretary just to annoy anyone working at HUD. Revenge is both sweet and sticky. Imagine how she could direct AFFH? Moving urban blacks to the prairie states would be so retro.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 19, 2016 01:53 PM (oDCMR)

393 >>>> Trump is a liberal, you c--t
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 19, 2016 01:25 PM (f4
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Shut your disgusting mouth and get out of here.

Posted by: L,Elle at January 19, 2016 01:53 PM (2x3L+)

394 The policies don't matter. Social Security would be a fantastic program if it was run honestly and competently. We need to do what works. That's what he's saying.

And he could actually win, and put a crimp in the dems' style, unlike a single one of the R candidates in the last two elections. And you know it's true.

Get over the aesthetics of it.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

So, now we are so desperate that "Policies don't matter" any longer... fuck me.

And anyone who thinks Trump can win the White House is delusional.

No matter how divided the Dem voters are.. no matter how disillusioned Bernie supporters will be when Hillary takes the nom.. ALL of those voters will make it a point to come out to vote AGAINST Trump.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 19, 2016 01:53 PM (so+oy)

395 ...aaand there go the last remnants of Palin's credibility.

Sucking up to The Donald? Fine, sell more books Sarah. Just don't expect Tea Partiers to pay any more attention to you.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 01:53 PM (74ZYB)

396 Rush just said "two Corinthians walk into a bar..."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 19, 2016 01:53 PM (FkBIv)

397 OT - Pregnant Chelsea Clinton takes a break from campaign trail for a stay at one of Turks and Caicos' priciest resorts where villas cost up to $34,000 per night.
Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (HgMAr)

When you got it, Fluent it Baby!
Even if your self involved lying scrunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:53 PM (kzdjp)

398 Being acclaimed the oldest man is like a death sentence, you know?

I'm gonna start now lying about my age.

Not for vanity but self defense.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 01:53 PM (Xo1Rt)

399 Typically the outsiders have to pay off the insiders to get things done.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 19, 2016 01:49 PM (LXJ1e)
______

How do you think insiders become insiders, if not by paying up? By being popular like in high school?

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 19, 2016 01:54 PM (nghs2)

400 And btw, I'm 58, yeah that's it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 01:54 PM (Xo1Rt)

401 Why is it talking to me?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:54 PM (kzdjp)

402 Instead of just insulting people because thy sort one candidate over another, perhaps ask why they do?


Nah, that's crazy talk.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 01:54 PM (hLRSq)

403
Palin ...bouncing back and forth...even bigger than before...boobs...signficant...*faps*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 19, 2016 01:42 PM (21hN3)

It's all about the subcontext.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 01:54 PM (OGbEB)

404 OT - Pregnant Chelsea Clinton takes a break from campaign trail for a stay at one of Turks and Caicos' priciest resorts where villas cost up to $34,000 per night
---------------------------------------------------

Money just doesn't mean much to me.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton, From Turks and Caicos at January 19, 2016 01:54 PM (LISuA)

405 >>Rush just played Obama butchering the log in the eye. Draw from the Bible. I laughed out loud. Jeez he's a stupid Fcuk.


Oh, never heard that one!

Did read that last week Obama claimed our country was 250 years old. I guess when you spend your formative childhood years in Indonesia studying the Koran instead of learning the state capitals, the presidents, and the constitution it's OK to round up to the nearest half-century.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 01:54 PM (NOIQH)

406 Unlikeable. I don't care.

Ivy League. Strike.

Lawyer. Strike.

Senator. Strike.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 01:55 PM (659DL)

407 >>Rush just said "two Corinthians walk into a bar..."


They ALL steal our jokes!

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 01:55 PM (b99VK)

408 401 Why is it talking to me?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 19, 2016 01:54 PM (kzdjp)

That would depend on what "it" is, wouldn't it?

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at January 19, 2016 01:55 PM (RD7QR)

409 I'm supporting Cruz, and it is disappointing she's going to endorse Trump, but she's entitled to support whoever she wants and for whatever reason she wants.

That being said, the Cruz campaign is entitled to say that their disappointed she's not endorsing Cruz, and giving conservative reasons why it's disappointing. That's not really an attack on Palin in any way.

Posted by: Evan3457 at January 19, 2016 01:55 PM (3+1Sh)

410 Rush just played Obama butchering the log in the eye.

How did he butcher it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (w4NZ8)

411 by the way, who the f is Michael Gerson? Wash Post via yahoo news:

For Republicans, the only good outcome of Trump vs. Cruz is for both to lose. The future of the party as the carrier of a humane, inclusive conservatism now depends on some viable choice beyond them.

http://tinyurl.com/zmgt9z5

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (qSIlh)

412 I've lost count of the "I like Cruz's positions, but he's unlikeable" nonsense that flows like water from Moses' rock in certain conservative circles. It stinks of anti-intellectual bias that liberals always allege but conservatives swear doesn't exist.
Posted by: Apostate at January 19, 2016 01:47 PM (QzX8V)

I'm not anti-intellectual, but I am anti-credentialist.

Intellectuals persuade. Credentialists claim to be the ultimate authority and shut down conversation. The credentialist approach is the backbone of every leftist issue of my lifetime, and it's why the government is so important to them. Along with moral preening it forms the one two punch of leftist rhetoric. They try to play both on every issue, too.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (xuouz)

413 Always remember and never forget. Ted Cruz is conservative as Paul Ryan is conservative.

In the end, they're owned by the same big money people that own Hillary.

There in a nutshell is why we have a Uniparty.

Posted by: Drider at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (6Xbsz)

414 "Social Security would be a fantastic program if it was run honestly and competently."

Really? It was a wealth transfer scam from the get-go.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (P5mpr)

415 Pregnant Chelsea Clinton takes a break from campaign trail

Well, that didn't take long.

Anyone seen Bill?

Anyone?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (659DL)

416 353
This tells me Cruz thinks if he doesn't at least win Iowa, it's over for
him. So all in on Iowa. Never mind the guy who wins Iowa has not
been the candidate for a long while

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 01:46 PM

Ditto. Iowa is his best shot. And that old governor there has been badmouthing Cruz in semi-private but not sure why.

Posted by: Lester at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (2UPXV)

417 Cruz's spox's statement was stupid. But so is Palin endorsing Trump. This is why you don't worship pols. They're all a bunch of fucking idiots.

Posted by: gm at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (4ueYo)

418 Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 01:54 PM (NOIQH)


"Log in our eye"


https://youtu.be/9JEmLqpFtuo

Posted by: Ricardo Montalban at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (GUBah)

419 when is Rocky the squirrel going to come out and say "nowhere's something you'll really like . . . "

Posted by: simplemind at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (JTwsP)

420
This tells me Cruz thinks if he doesn't at least win Iowa, it's over for him. So all in on Iowa.
Posted by: ThunderB



Will be, because aside from Iowa, don't think there's much out there that Trump isn't currently polled as winning comfortably.

Cruz needs -- really needs -- to take him down in Iowa, take the Trump hit in NH, and hope the other guys drop out and he can build some mo.

But looking like a long shot.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (kdS6q)

421 Rush just played Obama butchering the log in the eye.
How did he butcher it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


First you strip off the bark.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (FkBIv)

422 378 meant-personal attacks from people who ARE on the Trump bandwagon. No side is entirely faultless.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:50 PM (w4NZ

Looks upthread...

Sorry.... there is current evidence to the contrary here...

This is the EXACT same thing that got the new Policy put in place.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (f7rv6)

423 "Pregnant Chelsea Clinton takes a break from campaign trail for a stay at
one of Turks and Caicos' priciest resorts where villas cost up to
$34,000 per night."

WZ had a photo of Crown Princess Chelsea making baloney sandwiches at an inner city school for MLK Day, looking extremely uncomfortable and out of place. Guess she had to go get the ick off of her afterwards.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (noWW6)

424 "Social Security would be a fantastic program if it was run honestly and competently."

Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme of the most glaring variety.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (659DL)

425 388, I agree with you there! It is sad that the bar for success these days is so low, but it is what it is. If Trump just secures the border and stops the unchecked immigration, that in of itself will be a massive conservative victory. A victory of that size, we haven't seen in at least 25 years. Big if I know.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (COpZ4)

426
(sigh)
now
here

Posted by: simplemind at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (JTwsP)

427 355 I'm an "animal guy", can't stand to see them in distress. I blame/credit my parents.
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 19, 2016 01:47 PM (2cS/G)


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You're not alone.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (Fmupd)

428 Ban stick? Really? A stick?

I always assumed Ace & Company smashed folks with empty Valu-Rite vodka bottles.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (21hN3)

429 Posted by: torquewrench at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (noWW6)

Welcome to MY world.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (Xo1Rt)

430 Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (xuouz)

Nailed it like a Corinthian.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (P5mpr)

431 If Cruz thought IA was within the MOE, he wouldn't be spending 5 days in NH this week.

Sessions had this to say about the gang of 8 fight, "Ted was one of us & Rubio was one of them."

So, Amnest-io's 94% rating from Heritage IS NOT "good enough," if you think (as I do) that immigration is an existential issue.

Posted by: mnw at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (t3oNG)

432 Good-bye, Sarah. It was fun while it lasted.

Posted by: Palinski at January 19, 2016 01:58 PM (SJ184)

433 Off Fantasy Chrysler sock!

Posted by: Country Singer at January 19, 2016 01:58 PM (GUBah)

434 I kind of hate Trump. But I am kind of starting to like him. Sure I agree that likability is not the most important thing in a president but it does tend to help with the getting elected part.
Ted is way way way way way way too condescending. Watched him with Chris Wallace yesterday, just godawful! And I really really really really want to like him.
For me Trump beats Cruz in the likability contest.

Posted by: grandmalcaesar at January 19, 2016 01:58 PM (yrohn)

435 Social Security would be a fantastic program if it was run honestly and competently

?

It's a ponzi scheme. We're running out of suckers. Even competently run, it's doomed to fail.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 19, 2016 01:58 PM (oVJmc)

436 Social Security would be a fantastic program if it was run honestly and competently.

I doubt it. If I had been able to save that 13% of every paycheck on my own, I would be doing a lot better off right now.

Given the politics of people growing old after having saved nothing, social security might be a necessary program, but there is no way in hell it's a fantastic one.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 19, 2016 01:58 PM (2lndx)

437 I guess that makes Rove = Hari Seldon?
Posted by: @votermom at January 19, 2016 01:22 PM (cbfNE)

I'm a sci-fi fan as much as the next guy, but we as conservatives really should be more angry at Asimov for the Foundation series.

The premise of the series is the incredibly dangerous idea that a central authority is smart enough that they can in theory plan a society. It's a fundimentally un-[classical] liberal idea.

Posted by: Joe at January 19, 2016 01:58 PM (KUaJL)

438 This is the EXACT same thing that got the new Policy put in place.

I don't know if it's exact. I just remember it being both sides being awful.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:59 PM (w4NZ8)

439 when is Rocky the squirrel going to come out and say "nowhere's something you'll really like . . . "Posted by: simplemind at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (JTwsP)

Look at the flowers, Bullwinkle. Look at the flowers.

Posted by: Rocket J. Squirrel at January 19, 2016 01:59 PM (OGbEB)

440 Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme of the most glaring variety.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 01:57 PM (659DL)

They'll make up for it in volume.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at January 19, 2016 02:00 PM (P5mpr)

441 Trump is not a conservative, or even a sane person.

1) twitching, pretending to be retarded
2) "blood coming out of her eyes, out of her whatever"
3) "Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that?"
4) ban all Muslims from the US
5) 45% tariffs on China

He would be destroyed in the general, especially after Dems unseal his divorce records like they did for Obama's opponents.

If he were somehow elected, he would immediately cut deals with the Dems to enrich his buddies, and immediately forget every campaign promise he's making today. The guy is a snake oil salesman, entertaining but unfit for the office.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:00 PM (74ZYB)

442 >>This is the EXACT same thing that got the new Policy put in place.


Well, that and Fenelon's foul language.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 02:00 PM (b99VK)

443
who the f is Michael Gerson?
Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst



Dubya alum, GOPe flack.

And I think I saw something about the GOPe want to run him for something. In Virginia maybe?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 02:00 PM (kdS6q)

444 It's just a feeling I get in my boner...

Posted by: That guy who always says... at January 19, 2016 02:00 PM (Dwehj)

445 Did read that last week Obama claimed our country was 250 years old. I guess when you spend your formative childhood years in Indonesia studying the Koran instead of learning the state capitals, the presidents, and the constitution it's OK to round up to the nearest half-century.



Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 01:54 PM (NOIQH)


Yeah. ... that 1766 Declaration of Independence!

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 02:00 PM (f7rv6)

446 Walk like a Corinthian...

Posted by: The Bangles at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (kpqmD)

447 "Social Security would be a fantastic program if it was run honestly and competently."

Really? It was a wealth transfer scam from the get-go.
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack


Wealth Transfer is just another name for things we do together.

Posted by: Barney Frank at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (FkBIv)

448 The premise of the series is the incredibly dangerous idea that a central authority is smart enough that they can in theory plan a society. It's a fundimentally un-[classical] liberal idea.

Yes, but...it was at least based on math. Something that seems to be eluding us on the policy front currently.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (659DL)

449 I dont know why Black Mass got snubbed by the Oscars. The guy who played the dirty fbi agent who knew whitey bulger an australian actor was excellent. Worth seeing.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (iQIUe)

450 Let's change a few things around.

At 16 years old, Michael Smith finds out his real name is Miguel Martinez and his family is from Mexico. At 18, he joins the Mexican army.

Would you be up in arms if his US citizenship were revoked?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 01:52 PM (0LHZx)


It doesn't sound like the young lady is all that upset about losing her Egyptian citizenship. Sort of like being upset because your hemmhorroid suddenly fell off.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (Z8fuk)

451 Palin hasn't YET endorsed either one. Right?

Or am I missing something here?

This is all speculation folks and here we are throwing stones at each other's glass house because MAYBE Palin MAYBE might endorse Trump?

Stop living in the future.

It'll be bad enough when it gets here.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (Xo1Rt)

452 >>This is the EXACT same thing that got the new Policy put in place.


I don't know if it's exact. I just remember it being both sides being awful.


Excellent reminder!!

I'm just so tired of the tearing apart of the two leading candidates.
Neither is perfect, nor completely trustworthy, yet either one would be 100x better than whatever Dem candidate they pick.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (NOIQH)

453 One thing I never get is why winning Iowa matters so much. Are people in NH thinking, I'm not sure who to vote for, I will wait and see what farmers in Iowa do first and then whoever wins there will get my vote?

The whole idea of getting momentum from Iowa to NH never made any sense. Maybe in the days before instant information it kinda made sense since people in NH would only get the headline stories of who won in Iowa. But in today's world, it seems like an outdated conventional wisdom.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (0LHZx)

454 This tells me Cruz thinks if he doesn't at least win Iowa, it's over for him. So all in on Iowa.
Posted by: ThunderB



I don't see a path for him after that. It will also be a major blow for him.

Trump could win Iowa but I don't think he's doing anything there. Does he have a real turn out the vote effort there or is it just Twitter?

Posted by: Valdez at January 19, 2016 02:02 PM (nq/J2)

455
Sort of like being upset because your hemmhorroid suddenly fell off.
...................

That can happen?

Posted by: Hillarrhoids at January 19, 2016 02:02 PM (HgMAr)

456 Aesthetics? Sheesh, and here I thought we were talking about principles and ideology!
Posted by: MTF at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (LISuA)

The opposition to Trump is aesthetic. He is running to the right of Cruz, dismantling the GOP power structure, turning the leftist control of the media on its head, appealing to blue collar white democrats, and leading the polls. He's getting kids into politics again and helping to heal the republican brand.

Those who dislike him raise his support of liberal policies from the past. This is idiotic, because he was a television personality expressing an opinion, not a Republican Senator failure-theatering Obamacare or debt limit increases or military cuts through congress. He has a right to change his mind.

They dislike his manner of speech. Well it plays. This is our electorate and we need to win it, even if it's embarrassing to defend somebody talking this way, before this country ends in fire and bloodshed. Raise your hand if you think we have more than 5 years to do that.

They dislike his extremist positions re muslims and mexicans.

Well go look up Stockholm syndrome.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:02 PM (xuouz)

457 Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 02:00 PM (b99VK)

Hangs head in shame. ;^)

I think, actually, the ban come into effect before my egregious offense.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 02:02 PM (w4NZ8)

458 He would be destroyed in the general, especially after Dems unseal his divorce records like they did for Obama's opponents.

I love this argument. Have you noticed that he treats the Clintons EXACTLY the way you have to treat them to be successful?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (659DL)

459 I'm just so tired of the tearing apart of the two leading candidates.
Neither is perfect, nor completely trustworthy, yet either one would be 100x better than whatever Dem candidate they pick.


Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (NOIQH)

This! 100%.

Posted by: IC at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (a0IVu)

460 And then click my nick, ya brigands!

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (xuouz)

461 For Republicans, the only good outcome of Trump vs. Cruz is for both to lose. The future of the party as the carrier of a humane, inclusive conservatism now depends on some viable choice beyond them.

http://tinyurl.com/zmgt9z5
Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (qSIlh)


----------------------


Yup. I imagine Rinse Penis and the boys are having many drunk nights trying to figure out just what fuck is happening.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (Fmupd)

462 438 This is the EXACT same thing that got the new Policy put in place.

I don't know if it's exact. I just remember it being both sides being awful.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 01:59 PM (w4NZ


Actually... it started when I accused Ace of playing checkers, while Trump was playing chess...

Ace took it personally and attacked me back.. personally...

Things then escalated...

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (f7rv6)

463 Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (NOIQH)

Yes,. they would be.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (w4NZ8)

464 I have liked and defended Sarah Palin for years but this makes me question what her angle is if she isn't going to support the true conservative in this race or at the very least stay neutral. Cruz is obviously the proven conservative over Trump. His spokesman didn't even attack her. He only said they would be disappointed if it were true and that it might hurt her...it will hurt her with me. Trump may be saying all of the right things right now but he has ZERO record for real action. Cruz has stood alone against the establishment and proven his loyalty to conservative principles.

Posted by: Stacy M at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (jJMNa)

465 So, "Kasich" and "Surge." Who thought those 2 words would occupy the same sentence?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (5buP8)

466 "who the f is Michael Gerson?"


My kind of Republican.

Posted by: David Brooks at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (OD2ni)

467 "The premise of the series is the incredibly dangerous idea that a central authority is smart enough that they can in theory plan a society. "

But they totally failed to plan society. They had to resort to telepathic secret police, and even then the Mule upset their applecart, and after that the Gaians totally crushed and suborned them.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:04 PM (74ZYB)

468 Now that this thread is long in the tooth I will drop this OT here.


I saw a story over at the dailymail about a location used in the new
Batman Vs superman movie. I knew I'd seen the house before only in
better condition. It is the Ransom Gillis mansion. Not news but kinda
cool since it likely would never have been restored if the filmmakers
had not invested money in it for safety and filming purposes.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zmadfep
dailymail link about movie

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j29h5p8
Bing image search of ransom gillis house showing how bad it was prior to film and ultimate restoration

http://preview.tinyurl.com/h9h94sy
HGTV Rehab addict which filmed the restoration after.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 19, 2016 02:04 PM (XtAzU)

469 I wish it were Cruz, but I think if he doesn't win Iowa he is done. And then it's Trump. GOPe will cobble together the left overs and will throw everything they have at Trump, even after the primaries. I think they would rather have Hillary than Trump. Because just like WE don't know what Trump will do, and GOPe doesn't know what he will do. And they are scared he will do what he says on immigration.


So if it is Trump, which I suspect it will be, I hope we can agree to beat Hillary or Sanders and pull the lever for him. We don't know if any of them mean what they say on immigration, but we know the democrats do

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:04 PM (zOTsN)

470
Posted by: mnw



If you insist that Heritage's "Conservative" rating means anything about someone's conservatism -- well, can't do much for you.

That's political analysis basic training and hard to bring ya up to speed at this point.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 02:04 PM (kdS6q)

471 Social Security might have worked a little longer if, you know, they pols in the past didn't spend the money on other shit as soon as it came in. There are cabinets full of IOUs in a building somewhere in DC attesting to the theft.

But in the long term, it was never going to work. Ponzi schemes rarely do.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 19, 2016 02:04 PM (4ErVI)

472
Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance.
Do the math, follow the path.


Posted by: simplemind at January 19, 2016 02:04 PM (JTwsP)

473 The whole idea of getting momentum from Iowa to NH never made any sense. Maybe in the days before instant information it kinda made sense since people in NH would only get the headline stories of who won in Iowa. But in today's world, it seems like an outdated conventional wisdom.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo



There should just be a national primary

Posted by: Valdez at January 19, 2016 02:04 PM (nq/J2)

474 >>who the f is Michael Gerson


His sister Gina is a hot piece of ass.

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (b99VK)

475 Yay, now people can talk about me for something other than getting knocked up! Again!

Posted by: Bristol Palin at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (hvf9s)

476 Ace - Cruz' spokesmen -- not Cruz -- said they'd be "deeply disappointed" in Palin if she did endorse Trump, then offered reasons for such (hypothetical) disappointment. It was pretty mild stuff, really...

Palin is responding to the spokesman saying that she would "damage" herself by endorsing Trump.

Posted by: chedolf at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (NC9w5)

477 I'm just so tired of the tearing apart of the two leading candidates.

Amen. Among the more-than-a-few problems with Romney's candidacy was that many folks (like me) reluctantly got behind him fully in the eleventh hour. That's too late to make a difference.

Posted by: That guy who always says... at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (Dwehj)

478 459 I'm just so tired of the tearing apart of the two leading candidates.
Neither is perfect, nor completely trustworthy, yet either one would be 100x better than whatever Dem candidate they pick.

Well kind of for sure. One candidate for sure, the other could maybe barter with his donors and get a bone now and again to do what he promised he would do.

That being said, pledges we're signed and I will follow through like a good soldier.

Posted by: Drider at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (6Xbsz)

479 Posted by: Stacy M at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (jJMNa)

That is exactly how I feel, too.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (74ZYB)

480 OT:

EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.

Which says to me that she compromised satellite or signals intelligence, which is a big fucking deal.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (RD7QR)

481 Late here but I don't think a Palin endorsement holds all that much weight...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (/dSsq)

482 I doubt it. If I had been able to save that 13% of every paycheck on my own, I would be doing a lot better off right now.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 19, 2016 01:58 PM (2lndx)

The problem is that the majority (like 52%. Heh) wouldn't be.

And that's how the program got started.

Good intentions. Paving for the new Interstate to Hades.

And btw, when people get old, you have to do something about them if they can't do it for themselves. Otherwise we're no better than the Eskimos. That's all the SS does. You don't like it because you're young yet and can't see how you'll be needing it in your old age. (maybe you don't think you'll get there. A lot don't)

Time makes fools of us all.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (Xo1Rt)

483 At first I couldn't figure out this attack angle. Whatever he's like in private, Cruz comes across as a pretty decent guy in public.

Then I figured it out: its standard Democrat playbook, smear the opponent to be worse than you.

For example, Hillary Clinton cannot convince anyone, anywhere, that she isn't a liar. But maybe she can convince others that her opponent is an even worse liar.

Everyone knows Trump is an arrogant jerk, even his fondest supporters nod at that and agree. But if they can convince people that Cruz is an even more arrogant jerk, then why vote for him instead of Trump?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (39g3+)

484 "Walk like a Corinthian...
Posted by: The Bangles"


Mmmm. Susanna Hoffs. Mmmm

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (OD2ni)

485 Trying to decide on watching the Obarky love story movie or jumping off the top of the house.

Pros and cons, pros and cons

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (X+nFp)

486 19 So one "disruptor" may endorse another? How utterly unexpected. After the way the GOPe shit all over Palin in '08, why would she not use the biggest wrench in the drawer to whack them when the opportunity arises?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball.

Posted by: Zombie Patches O'Hoolihan at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (kfcYC)

487 459 I'm just so tired of the tearing apart of the two leading candidates.
Neither is perfect, nor completely trustworthy, yet either one would be 100x better than whatever Dem candidate they pick.


Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (NOIQH)

This! 100%.
Posted


----------------


As I've said. I will gladly vote for Trump or Cruz in the general.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (Fmupd)

488 Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:04 PM (zOTsN)

Don't give up after Iowa, he is gaining fast in GA and leading in CA. If Cruz takes the SEC primary with CA and TX probably wins the election.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (74ZYB)

489 >>>>> He's getting kids into politics again and helping to heal the republican brand.
------
This is true from my own experience. I'm around conservative, college kids all the time. They all like Trump.

Posted by: L,Elle at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (2x3L+)

490 >>I saw a story over at the dailymail about a location used in the new

Batman Vs superman movie.


Ah, Detroit. How appropriate.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (NOIQH)

491 Yes, but...it was at least based on math. Something that seems to be eluding us on the policy front currently.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (659DL)

I mean, yeah. it's based on math in the same way that Star Trek's effectively post-scarcity society is based on science.

Posted by: Joe at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (KUaJL)

492 447 "Social Security would be a fantastic program if it was run honestly and competently."
Really? It was a wealth transfer scam from the get-go.
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack
Wealth Transfer is just another name for things we do together.
Posted by: Barney Frank at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (FkBIv)

If they didn't raid the piggy bank, and there weren't other social programs which were tossed onto social security, and the labor force participation didn't plummet, and there weren't millions of freeloaders and more imported every year, it could have functioned in perpetuity.

It was just an example.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (xuouz)

493 I'm just so tired of the tearing apart of the two leading candidates.
Neither is perfect, nor completely trustworthy, yet either one would be 100x better than whatever Dem candidate they pick.


Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:01 PM (NOIQH)


If you don't agree with me at all times on all things to the exact same level of caring that I have then you are a hippie commie that hates America and makes bunnies and the baby Jesus cry.

And you're worse than a Nazi.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (hLRSq)

494 So, "Kasich" and "Surge." Who thought those 2 words would occupy the same sentence?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin


Is Surge some kind of soda pop?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (FkBIv)

495 She was being financially destroyed as governor by the nuisance "ethics" lawsuits,

Having failed ace's "What if they use it against me?" test of law-ing.

Posted by: DaveA at January 19, 2016 02:07 PM (DL2i+)

496 Just schedule a big monster truck show on the same day. There won't be a soul attending the Trump/Palin rally.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 19, 2016 02:07 PM (tE8K2)

497 Which says to me that she compromised satellite or signals intelligence, which is a big fucking deal.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (RD7QR)


What difference, at this point, does it make?

In a sane world with real leaders and a Constitutional government in place, she'd already have been in prison facing life without parole!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 19, 2016 02:07 PM (wYnyS)

498 481 Late here but I don't think a Palin endorsement holds all that much weight...
Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (/dSsq)

Nor should it. But here we all are, talking about Donald.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:07 PM (xuouz)

499 Relax my dear and accept it.

You'll be know as "F-Bomb Fenelon" until the end of time.

It could be worse. It's said with affection.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:08 PM (Xo1Rt)

500 Just heard over the radio Trump picked up the endorsement of John Wayne's daughter in Iowa.

Is that the big announcement/guest he was trotting out today? Or is there something else later.

Posted by: ghost of Jeff Goldblum at January 19, 2016 02:08 PM (H9MG5)

501 "474 >>who the f is Michael Gerson

His sister Gina is a hot piece of ass.
Posted by: garrett"


Hot, but crazy. Did you see her on The Sopranos?

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 19, 2016 02:08 PM (OD2ni)

502 So the mean girls cast out one of their own from the slumber party? This is why the Republicans are as laughable as the Democrats.

Posted by: Fritz at January 19, 2016 02:08 PM (UzPAd)

503 494 So, "Kasich" and "Surge." Who thought those 2 words would occupy the same sentence?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin


Yesterday Jeb! was "surging" and today Kasich is.... Somehow I don't think so...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:08 PM (/dSsq)

504 "So, "Kasich" and "Surge." Who thought those 2 words would occupy the same sentence? "

Ahh cool, another conservative gets a bump.

Posted by: Drider at January 19, 2016 02:09 PM (6Xbsz)

505 Those who dislike him raise his support of liberal policies from the past. This is idiotic
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:02 PM (xuouz)


It seems sort of crazy to me that people want you to just dismiss whatever Trump said in the past, because of what he's saying now.

On this whole 'have a beer' test (even though trump doesn't drink I guess), I would be afraid that Trump would always be 'on' and those kind of people bug the crap out of me. Cruz would be kind of nerdy, otoh, and maybe trying to hard, but if you got him on a good topic it would probably be interesting. And if you got Trump telling super trump stories, that might be fun for a minute.

Posted by: Lea at January 19, 2016 02:09 PM (lIU4e)

506 There should just be a national primary
Posted by: Valdez at January 19, 2016 02:04 PM (nq/J2)

There should be a rolling primary with different early states for every election.

There should be a lot of things.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:09 PM (xuouz)

507 >>"Walk like a Corinthian...
Posted by: The Bangles"


'All the Hymies
in the Bagel Shops
go -
Way oh, Way-oh
oh-oh, e-o Way-Oh!'

Posted by: Rev. Jesse Jackson at January 19, 2016 02:09 PM (b99VK)

508
Crown Princess Chelsea making baloney sandwiches at an inner city school for MLK Day, looking extremely uncomfortable and out of place.
.....................

Wanna bet they were the first sammiches she ever made?

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 02:09 PM (HgMAr)

509 Cruz on Twitter fifteen minutes ago:

"I love @SarahPalinUSA Without her support, I wouldn't be in the Senate. Regardless of what she does in 2016, I will always be a big fan."

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 19, 2016 02:09 PM (21hN3)

510 Social Security might have worked a little longer if, you know, they pols in the past didn't spend the money on other shit as soon as it came in. There are cabinets full of IOUs in a building somewhere in DC attesting to the theft.

But in the long term, it was never going to work. Ponzi schemes rarely do.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis





I really don't a huge problem with SS

If you tightened up the disability nonsense and bumped the age up, it would fine for several generations

I have a much bigger problem with the free shit federal housing, welfare, food stamps, MediCaid, Obamaphones etc that are rotting this country

Posted by: Valdez at January 19, 2016 02:10 PM (nq/J2)

511
"I love @SarahPalinUSA Without her support, I wouldn't be in the Senate. Regardless of what she does in 2016, I will always be a big fan."

Class...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:10 PM (/dSsq)

512 My endorsement is still available, boys.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at January 19, 2016 02:10 PM (QjoP6)

513 So if it is Trump, which I suspect it will be, I hope we can agree to beat Hillary or Sanders and pull the lever for him. We don't know if any of them mean what they say on immigration, but we know the democrats do
Posted by: ThunderB


People forget that the GOP,like all political parties in the US, is a private organization. The 'leadership' isn't bound by primary elections. They could pick Random P. Asshole if it struck them.

Trump will not be the GOP candidate. Our Betters will ignore any result not of their liking.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 19, 2016 02:10 PM (W0RfD)

514 But in the long term, it was never going to work. Ponzi schemes rarely do.


How many Ponzi schemes do you know of that run for nearly 70 years without crashing and burning?

Posted by: ugg boots at January 19, 2016 02:10 PM (fbovC)

515 I'm around conservative, college kids all the time. They all like Trump.


I weep for the future.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 02:11 PM (evdj2)

516 I know its a vain hope but just once I'd love to see candidates run on how they'd be the best leader and against the other party, not each other. Show how you're the best choice, not how the other guy is the worse.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:11 PM (39g3+)

517
There wasn't any school open on MLK day. It was a staged publicity stunt?

Posted by: Just The Tip at January 19, 2016 02:11 PM (1za6a)

518 Didn't Palin kinda,sorta play a huge part in getting Trusted Teddy started?

Posted by: Drider at January 19, 2016 02:11 PM (6Xbsz)

519 It seems sort of crazy to me that people want you to just dismiss whatever Trump said in the past, because of what he's saying now.
Posted by: Lea at January 19, 2016 02:09 PM (lIU4e)

I don't want you to dismiss it, but considering the way he talks, doesn't what he says when actually running for office trump what he said to some cute, liberal reporterette during a break on the set of the apprentice?

And like I said earlier, he believes in hard work (that you just can't quibble about), enforcing the law, and ending corruption and incompetence. And those are the real problem.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:11 PM (xuouz)

520 508
Crown Princess Chelsea making baloney sandwiches at an inner city school for MLK Day, looking extremely uncomfortable and out of place.
.....................

Then She flew off to the Caribbean to stay in a 34 thousand a week villa...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:11 PM (/dSsq)

521 512 My endorsement is still available, boys.
Posted by: Meghan McCain at January 19, 2016 02:10 PM (QjoP6)

Which one? Left or right?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at January 19, 2016 02:11 PM (P5mpr)

522 >>"I love @SarahPalinUSA Without her support, I wouldn't be in the Senate. Regardless of what she does in 2016, I will always be a big fan."



THIS is why people don't like Ted Cruz...

Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2016 02:11 PM (b99VK)

523
#180
#205

Posted by: Flapjackmaka




So, still no ban?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (kdS6q)

524 Relax my dear and accept it.

You'll be know as "F-Bomb Fenelon" until the end of time.



And Killer of Grammie!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (ct0K5)

525 >>> Palin is responding to the spokesman saying that she would "damage" herself by endorsing Trump.


Trying to decide if she is snippy about it because she thinks it is false, or because she just does not want the truth uttered.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (hvf9s)

526 Putin doesn't drink?

Being a homicidal megalomaniac thug IS a way to stay sober. It's not just the easiest, softest way.

Posted by: DaveA at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (DL2i+)

527 If I were Bristol Palin I'd be too ashamed to go out in public, let alone condemn others for their behavior.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (39g3+)

528 516 I know its a vain hope but just once I'd love to see candidates run on how they'd be the best leader and against the other party, not each other. Show how you're the best choice, not how the other guy is the worse.

I'm with You. Enough of this clown circus...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (/dSsq)

529 No non democrat is going to take CA

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (zOTsN)

530 Cruz is just now starting to fight.

http://tinyurl.com/jou3y8w

"The ads come as Cruz appears to be picking up steam in the still-crowded Republican primary. He is at or near the top of recent polls in Iowa without having spent much campaign money to advertise there. Likewise, his super PACs have been slow to start spending major money on commercials. That changes with this ad buy."

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (74ZYB)

531 I like to think I had a small part to play BB ... by "calling Ace out" by, get this, using his name.

And also throwing his snark back at him.

Posted by: Irony at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (pfxf2)

532 You'll be know as "F-Bomb Fenelon" until the end of time.

It could be worse. It's said with affection.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:08 PM (Xo1Rt)


Uh-oh, is Fenelon cursing again?

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (wYnyS)

533 " Is Bristol Palin still a whore?

Her mother does something you dislike so its ok to use the worst insult possible (when directed towards a woman) at her daughter?

Sad

Posted by: Bob from Ohio at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (t3cNy)

534 "I love @SarahPalinUSA Without her support, I wouldn't be in the Senate. Regardless of what she does in 2016, I will always be a big fan."

-----

A good way to handle this.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (gmeXX)

535 Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (zOTsN)

The GOP primary in CA, not the general.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (74ZYB)

536 How many Ponzi schemes do you know of that run for nearly 70 years without crashing and burning?

How many settle for a locker of IOUs instead of cash?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (659DL)

537 Well, that and Fenelon's foul language.
Posted by: garrett
--------------------
Not to mention that she killed off grammie winger...

Posted by: Chi at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (BB+7x)

538 It will be amusing if after all this speculation about Palin the secret endorsement comes from Indiana's Mike Pence or Branstead of Iowa.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (w4NZ8)

539 This entire thread might be moot if Donald trots out Oprah this evening.

Posted by: IC at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (a0IVu)

540 All you folk's here will eventually cast your vote the way pribus and the corporation out of Virginia tells you to vote.

Posted by: Luther Pendragon at January 19, 2016 02:14 PM (hforh)

541
There wasn't any school open on MLK day. It was a staged publicity stunt?
Posted by: Just The Tip



Districts sometimes keep the school cafeterias open on holidays, for free school lunches. Because I take care of my kids!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 19, 2016 02:14 PM (kdS6q)

542 509, that is exactly the right thing for Cruz to say. Kudos to him. Very smart on his part.

Years ago, Romney never said anything publicly bad about Sarah, but he had his GOPe spokes mouths trash her all over the fucking place, and she learned a lesson then. She doesn't tolerate that shit anymore. If we see cruz folks on the networks doing it now, then you will know. I hope we don't see it.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at January 19, 2016 02:14 PM (COpZ4)

543 Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 19, 2016 02:09 PM (21hN3)

Pitch perfect.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:14 PM (74ZYB)

544 533 " Is Bristol Palin still a whore?

Her mother does something you dislike so its ok to use the worst insult possible (when directed towards a woman) at her daughter?

Sad

Posted by: Bob from Ohio at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (t3cNy)

Worst? REALLY?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at January 19, 2016 02:14 PM (P5mpr)

545 Posted by: Hrothgar at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (wYnyS)

No, but the day is early yet. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 19, 2016 02:14 PM (w4NZ8)

546 Banhammer on and at work. Who got banned? Flapjackmama?

Posted by: L,Elle at January 19, 2016 02:14 PM (2x3L+)

547
Which says to me that she compromised satellite or signals intelligence, which is a big fucking deal.
Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (RD7QR)

Her punishment will be a demotion from former Sec State to just former Senator. The media will not be allowed to reference her as Sec State. Oh, the horror!

Posted by: Mainah at January 19, 2016 02:14 PM (659DL)

548 This entire thread might be moot if Donald trots out Oprah this evening.

Or Hillary!

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:14 PM (/dSsq)

549 133 120 If Palin does endorse Trump, it may be that she feels that Trump has a better chance of beating Hillery than Cruz has.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at January 19, 2016 01:18 PM (qSIlh)

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So why not just say that? It is possible to endorse candidate A without shitting all over candidate B.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

You call that shitting all over Cruz? Palin Inc. had a right to take that shot after Cruz spokestool (spokes-tool/spoke-stool) took his.

Even more fundamentally, you're mistaking 'taking no shit from' with 'shitting all over' someone. Nuance. Easy mistake to make if one really doesn't give a shit.

Posted by: Zombie Patches O'Hoolihan at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (kfcYC)

550 526 Putin doesn't drink?

Being a homicidal megalomaniac thug IS a way to stay sober. It's not just the easiest, softest way.
Posted by: DaveA at January 19, 2016 02:12 PM (DL2i+)

Hmmm....I have been considering a career change.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (kpqmD)

551 "527
If I were Bristol Palin I'd be too ashamed to go out in public, let alone condemn others for their behavior."

How long were you a virgin? If you were not one at marriage, then you are no different than her.

Which baby should she have aborted? Both?

Posted by: Bob from Ohio at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (t3cNy)

552 One thing I know about Trump.


He's building that fucking wall. And it's gonna be YUGE.


That's enough for me. Trump 2016

Posted by: prescient12 at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (7QkL1)

553 SP that's Palin not Shore Patrol is irrelevant...
De Pathe News Agency..say's

Posted by: Luther Pendragon at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (hforh)

554 Trump will not be the GOP candidate. Our Betters will ignore any result not of their liking. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 19, 2016 02:10 PM (W0RfD)

No, Priebus and the rest will go along. So will most of the GOPe. They may hate the base but they also know they'll lose their phony baloney jobs if the outcome of the primaries is blatantly rigged.

Besides, the GOPe knows it can do business with Trump Cruz, on the other hand, called them out by name on the Senate floor, which I gather is the one unforgiveable sin.

Posted by: troyriser at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (OGbEB)

555 This entire thread might be moot if Donald trots out Oprah this evening.
Posted by: IC at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (a0IVu)


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Heh

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (Fmupd)

556 I bet Chelsea makes baloney sandwiches with ketchup.

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (HgMAr)

557 379 So what are the odds this puts Trump over the top in Iowa?

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (oDCMR)
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No idea really. I expect Trump to well and Cruz to win IA by a few points still, but if Trump squeezes out a win by percent, could be said to be the difference.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (MbrzC)

558 Uh-oh, is Fenelon cursing again?


First the cursing, then the killing.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (ct0K5)

559 Cruz's opponent, David Dewhurst, played a "huge role" in getting Cruz elected. And Michael Berry. Plain endorsement was nice but in no way determinative. Texas conservatives were much more important

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (zOTsN)

560 456 The opposition to Trump is aesthetic.
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What does this mean? I oppose Trump because I think he is unprincipled, a liberal who supports ObamaCare, until recently a Democrat who supported Obama publicly, pro-gun control, pro-abortion and a manipulating nasty-minded person. Those aren't aesthetic objections, they are objections to his lack of integrity and willingness to make deals rather than fight for what is right. He's the kind of guy who if the Russians threaten to nuke all of the country will give them three or four states in a deal for peace and call it a victory.

Having said that, I prefer his current opinions to Crazy Bern and Cankles (Prisoner #A4156B). I prefer his willingness to fight hard to the warm milk style of Jebbie, to the outright liberalism of Crispie, and (for various reasons) to most of the others. I'm not much of a fan of Rubio, whom I think is weak-minded and I go hot and cold on Cruz (depending on the issue).

Aesthetics have zero to do with most of my objections to Trump.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton, From Turks and Caicos at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (LISuA)

561 This entire thread might be moot if Donald trots out Oprah this evening.

Posted by: IC at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (a0IVu)


That would be taking a demographic tire iron to the kneecaps of the Democrat coalition.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (hLRSq)

562 Aesthetics? Sheesh, and here I thought we were talking about principles and ideology!

Posted by: MTF at January 19, 2016 01:51 PM (LISuA)
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That sh1t went out the window many years ago in general elections, at least in terms of people's priorities.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (MbrzC)

563 I miss Scott Walker....

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (/dSsq)

564 That was supposed to be Palins endorsement

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (zOTsN)

565 >>This entire thread might be moot if Donald trots out Oprah this evening.

*snort*

That would be both horrifying and brilliant!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2016 02:17 PM (NOIQH)

566 If you were not one at marriage, then you are no different than her.


True, if you got pregnant out of wedlock, then went on a chastity tour, then got pregnant again.. She definitely loose, nttatwwt.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 02:17 PM (evdj2)

567 How long were you a virgin? If you were not one at marriage, then you are no different than her.

I haven't fathered two babies with two different women without marrying anyone. I didn't also go around teaching high school kids about sexual restraint and purity, either.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:17 PM (39g3+)

568 83 13: "Reality TV star endorses reality TV star to cement the support of fans of reality TV shows."

But who does Snookie endorse?

Because I'm lost without some narcissistic camera monger to tell me who I should vote for.

/sarc


Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire)

Looks like you swallowed whole the Dem and media narrative about her. /sarc.

Posted by: Zombie Patches O'Hoolihan at January 19, 2016 02:17 PM (kfcYC)

569 539 This entire thread might be moot if Donald trots out Oprah this evening.
Posted by: IC at January 19, 2016 02:13 PM (a0IVu)

This would end the world.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:17 PM (xuouz)

570 388 More than McCain would have, I guarantee.

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This limbo stick is too low.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 01:52 PM (gmeXX)
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Hahaha fair enough.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:17 PM (MbrzC)

571 No matter who the politician is,

they always disappoint you at some point.

WTF?

I guess I'm done with Palin.

She could've recommended Trump "as the best guy for Prez"

but said something like "and Ted Cruz would make one hell of a Veep".


But, nope.

She's all onboard with the unlikable Ted nonsense esp. as spewed from her spectacularly dumb kid Bristol.

Yeeesh.

These people are all like the showbiz types who just can't stop themselves from trying to regain their lost "stardom".




Politics, fame, and free money...it's a hellava drug.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (0cMkb)

572 "My endorsement is still available, boys.
Posted by: Meghan McCain"

Meghan. I have to say you are looking better since you moved to Fox. Andrea Tantaros must be dragging you to the gym.

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (OD2ni)

573 Off sock with Patches.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (kfcYC)

574 533, it has always been that way here. Commenters here have routinely insulted Sarah Palin and her family for many years. "Whore" is one of their favorites. It is very sad. They also claim to be conservatives.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (COpZ4)

575 563 I miss Scott Walker....
Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (/dSsq)

He was my pick all along. It's a damned shame he didn't plant his feet before he got into the race.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (xuouz)

576 Wow. There seem to be a number of Obamaesk women haters here hatin on sweet,sweet Sarah and Bristol.

What an odd week this is. I hear over at Levins that they are ban hammering anyone who mentions Trump and Support in the same post.
Trump supporters are said to have gotten back at them when they slipped Trump book covers over Levins and he ended up burning his own books. In a constitutional way, of course.

Posted by: Drider at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (6Xbsz)

577 Remember kids, Trump was a crony capitalist long before he was a candidate.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (74ZYB)

578 Plain endorsement was nice but in no way determinative. Texas conservatives were much more important

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Impossible to really measure. Just by the fact that Cruz is right now #2 in the GOP nomination race shows that he is a remarkable political talent - so he was likely going to win that race no matter what. But her endorsement was a boost at the time.

Posted by: SH at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (gmeXX)

579 How many settle for a locker of IOUs instead of cash?

Oh, come on. Really. Cash flows in the door daily, and twice a month they disburse that money. It's like a business that doesn't make a profit but still keeps its head above water.

Actuarially sound. But it needs American workers to keep it that way.

Posted by: ugg boots at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (fbovC)

580 I'm not a Trump guy, but as big an ego as he has, I could see regular people shooting the sh*t with him over an evening in a way I can't with Cruz. The fact he has a big ego that is at least partly shtick (and he's entertaining when he does it) makes him more likeable than Cruz in that he just comes off as less patronizing.
Posted by: AD at January 19, 2016 01:29 PM (uzVds)

I have actually shot the shit with Cruz over drinks a couple of times, and he was very nice and easy to talk to. He may have thought I was an idiot, and I am compared to him, but he never showed it. He's very down to earth. I also spent part of an evening hanging with two of his then campaign staff (this was when he was running in the senate general election), and they were very down to earth too, which also impressed me.

Trump has always seemed like a nasty arrogant man to me, and these personal attacks on Cruz confirm that. Trump's attacks on the Clenis were magnificent and much needed, but the way he's going after Cruz is scummy.

Posted by: stace at January 19, 2016 02:18 PM (CoX6k)

581 She was forced from office by shitty laws written by Democrats HER for just
that purpose
.
She stepped down in order to save taxpayers herself millions in
legal fees.

Posted by: navybrat


FIFY

Posted by: DaveA at January 19, 2016 02:19 PM (DL2i+)

582 >>> "I love @SarahPalinUSA Without her support, I wouldn't be in the Senate. Regardless of what she does in 2016, I will always be a big fan."
Class...Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:10 PM (/dSsq)

Listened to Beck today for the first time in a while, they were playing Team Cruz's responses to Trump's slams against him. Sailed over the slime and got back to hitting home the issues in a classy way. I was impressed. Also played past clips of Trump glorifying Cruz.

Between the class act stuff and the jumping the shark clip, now the positive tweet to Sarah...Cruz might be doing the savviest campaign this season. Time will tell.

Posted by: LizLem at January 19, 2016 02:19 PM (hvf9s)

583 I'm not going to say I can predict what Trump will do.

But he's thrown down a marker all of the other candidates (including the optional favorite here; Mr. Cruz) about building a wall.

A barrier between the US and Mexico to control the flow of undocumented Democrats into this country.

If he does that he will go down as the best President ever in my view.

If he falters on that promise before the election, I will not vote for him.

Anything else he does that I approve of will be a bonus.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:19 PM (Xo1Rt)

584 278 227 Note that a Putin-Trump summit meeting would be between two teetotallers.
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Putin doesn't drink? That's amazing; he might be the only sober man in Russia.

In the land of rampant alcoholism, the sober man is king.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016

No, the sober man is chauffeur.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 19, 2016 02:19 PM (kfcYC)

585 "Worst? REALLY?"

Saying a woman has sex for money is pretty bad.

IMHO, I would say worse than c**t which is just an obscene reference to a bodypart.

I would suggest both are pretty bad and should be avoided at all costs by people, especially a conservative.


Posted by: Bob from Ohio at January 19, 2016 02:19 PM (t3cNy)

586 I bet Chelsea uses the baloney that has pimentos in it.

Posted by: wth at January 19, 2016 02:19 PM (HgMAr)

587 Damn

All of the other candidates haven't

And I don't have auto cucumber so I have no one to blame.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (Xo1Rt)

588 574 533, it has always been that way here. Commenters here have routinely insulted Sarah Palin and her family for many years. "Whore" is one of their favorites. It is very sad. They also claim to be conservatives

Actually, you're wrong People here have been very nice in their remarks about Palin for the most part..Many only voted for McCain because of Her....

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (/dSsq)

589 Commenters here have routinely insulted Sarah Palin and her family for many years. "Whore" is one of their favorites.

I'm going to have to call BS here. Citing a fact about someone is not an insult.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (659DL)

590 Which baby should she have aborted? Both?
Posted by: Bob from Ohio at January 19, 2016 02:15 PM (t3cNy)

Neither, she needs to find guys that will pull out and come on her tits.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (P5mpr)

591 Actuarially sound. But it needs American workers to keep it that way.


Ponzi's scheme was also sound, it just need investors to keep it that way.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (evdj2)

592 Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:11 PM (xuouz)

So if he talks now about how he supports a single payer healthcare system can we worry about that?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (qbqnC)

593 >>> This entire thread might be moot if Donald trots out Oprah this evening.


YOU get a wall! And YOUUU Get a Wall! And YOUUUUUU get a wall!!!!!!

Posted by: and the audience goes wild at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (hvf9s)

594 Send this thread to the cornfield, son.

Posted by: Anthony Fremont's father at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (OD2ni)

595 Guys, seriously. You can respect Palin's positions on topics and her statements and still find fault with her and the behavior of her wayward daughter.

This need to deify politicians is just disturbing to me. You can like someone without thinking they are beyond criticism.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (39g3+)

596 "How many settle for a locker of IOUs instead of cash?"

No other Ponzi scheme can raise taxes.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 02:21 PM (hLRSq)

597 So, "Kasich" and "Surge." Who thought those 2 words would occupy the same sentence?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

Ever since John Kasich entered the race there has been a surge in references to postal carriers.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 19, 2016 02:21 PM (nFdGS)

598 I bet Chelsea uses the baloney that has pimentos in it.

Ah, pimento loaf, the Babylonian whore of deli sandwiches.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 02:21 PM (evdj2)

599
For Republicans, the only good outcome of Trump vs. Cruz is for both to lose. The future of the party as the carrier of a humane, inclusive conservatism now depends on some viable choice beyond them.

Oh, FUCK that. Fuck it with a stick. "humane, inclusive conservatism" presupposes that conservatism itself is inhumane and exclusive. It's the same sort of mealy-mouthed shit we got from Dubya and his "compassionate conservatism." That's how you end up giving the Dems 99 percent of what they want in the name of "bipartisanship" instead of going for the political equivalent of hanging them from a lamppost.

Get the fuck out of the GOP and go join the Democrats, you nickelfucking suckup.

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at January 19, 2016 02:21 PM (X6fMO)

600 "This entire thread might be moot if Donald trots out Oprah this evening."

I was going with El Chapo, Kim Jong Un, or Hugo Chavez? Some are supposedly more alive or out of prison than the others, but that just makes for a bigger splash.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:21 PM (74ZYB)

601 Just to clarify, I didn't think Bristol was a whore when she had her first child in 2008. I respected her for making the right choice when faced with the consequences of something that probably more than half of people her age had done.

Fast forward 7 1/2 years and I kinda think she's a whore.

Posted by: VBJonny at January 19, 2016 02:22 PM (NX9H4)

602 Why does She have to support anyone at this point?

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:22 PM (/dSsq)

603 YOU get a wall! And YOUUU Get a Wall! And YOUUUUUU get a wall!!!!!!

Posted by: and the audience goes wild


Yeah, but they fit under the seats, so its the Spinal Tap version

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:22 PM (39g3+)

604 Bristol Palin did not abort her babies just because her relationship with the men who fathered them did not work out; Sarah Palin did not abort just because her child was going to have special needs. That means a lot to some of us who have kids with special needs.

Posted by: IC at January 19, 2016 02:23 PM (a0IVu)

605 "So if he talks now about how he supports a single payer healthcare system can we worry about that?"

Hey, it's going to be the most luxurious single player system in the world. You're going to LOVE it.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:23 PM (74ZYB)

606 "Ever since John Kasich entered the race there has been a surge in references to postal carriers."


Hello Jerry.

Posted by: Newman at January 19, 2016 02:23 PM (OD2ni)

607 There are some individual who do deserve the pejorative "Cvnt".

But these are pretty much widely acclaimed dregs that deserve no respect and get none.

Anyone else; there are better substitutes.

And swearing is NOT the last resort of the ILLITERATE.

It's been found that those who swear some (not constantly) are generally of higher IQ and with a larger vocabulary than those who don't.

Exceptions being those who consciously make an effort to not swear but know all the words.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:23 PM (Xo1Rt)

608 I'm going to have to call BS here. Citing a fact about someone is not an insult.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (659DL)


A whore is someone who gets paid for sex, and a very specific allegation.

Please show your proof of said allegation.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 19, 2016 02:23 PM (f7rv6)

609 New Thread, Not Like The Old Thread.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 19, 2016 02:24 PM (hLRSq)

610 Fast forward 7 1/2 years and I kinda think she's a whore.

There's no evidence she's being paid for the act.

This just in: Keith Richards is still alive.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:24 PM (39g3+)

611
I see we're playing another round of You Can't Say That!

Posted by: Just The Tip at January 19, 2016 02:24 PM (1za6a)

612 A whore is someone who gets paid for sex, and a very specific allegation.


That's a prostitute. Is skank okay?

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 02:24 PM (evdj2)

613 I think it would be kind of funny to see a pundit go on TV and say that Trump's popularity is partly due to his taking a page from Obama's 2008 playbook. Trump is saying a lot of the things people want to hear, and it's working. How is that so different than what 52% heard in 2008? How intellectually deep is it to repeat "hope, change, we're the people we've been waiting for, the rise of the oceans will fall, blah blah blah?" I'd just like to see it because lefty pundits' heads will go splodey and I'd like to hear how they differentiate between the two without it boiling down to "we like Obama, we don't like Trump."

Posted by: Mainah at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (659DL)

614 Bristol had unprotected sex with a man she was engaged to. She thought they were to married shortly. Until his previous wife, who she had never heard of, starting talking to the tabloids. Not a whore.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (zOTsN)

615 I guess we're going with the strictly technical definition of the word then...

Posted by: VBJonny at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (NX9H4)

616 Nood Hillary.

Posted by: apologies to anyone eating at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (H9MG5)

617 419 when is Rocky the squirrel going to come out and say "nowhere's something you'll really like . . . "

Posted by: simplemind at January 19, 2016 01:56 PM (JTwsP)

Watch me pull a nominee out of this hat!

Posted by: Donna and V. (not brandishing ampersands at the prsent time) at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (u0lmX)

618 Posted by: VBJonny at January 19, 2016 02:22 PM (NX9H4)

Yeah. It's the second one that gets me too.

What? They never heard of birth control in Alaska?

And especially living in a family under such constant scrutiny.

Haven't Palin's boy(s) shown more judgment?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (Xo1Rt)

619 Definition. whore. A woman that sleeps with everyone but you.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (evdj2)

620 Bristol Palin did not abort her babies just because her relationship with the men who fathered them did not work out; Sarah Palin did not abort just because her child was going to have special needs.

At what point did "Bristol, maybe you should seek some family planning assistance" become "Get an abortion?"

I don't even...

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (659DL)

621 On Nov. 6, 2008, Trump praised President Barack Obama as "inspiring in every way."

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (74ZYB)

622 One time is an accident. Twice could be an honest oversight. Three times and you really really need to have another talk about the birds and the bees with your mom.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 02:26 PM (qbqnC)

623 It is really disappointing that Palin isn't siding with Cruz.

Trump supported Obama, Sarah! Trump bought into Hope and Change. He voted against you in 2008 and probably had some nasty things to say about you, and certainly had nasty things to say about your supporters. Trump loved Al Gore after he was having provably honest overseas military ballots thrown out over the postage.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (a7sQX)

624 Actually, if Trump's sooper secret endorsement ISN'T Palin, and the Cruz campaign mistakenly went after her proactively, Palin's response would make that much MORE sense.

Posted by: deadrody at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (W15tP)

625 They were to be married in two weeks. Then she found out about the other wife, and broke it off. Then she found out she was pregnant. Not a whore

Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (zOTsN)

626 I'm gonna say it. I like Palin but She carries a lot of "baggage" whether She deserves it or not... It's hard to run on a high moral values platform when Your Daughter Has a less than stellar history. Don't get Me wrong I admire Her for having the kids but the public loves to throw morality back at those who preach it and don't live it...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (/dSsq)

627 559 Cruz's opponent, David Dewhurst, played a "huge role" in getting Cruz elected. And Michael Berry. Plain endorsement was nice but in no way determinative. Texas conservatives were much more important
Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:16 PM (zOTsN)

Yes, and another thing that helped was when Eric Holder delayed the TX primary over some imaginary raaaaacism garbage, which ironically gave Cruz more time to get his name out.

To be honest, I voted for Dewhurst in the primary because I thought Cruz had no chance, and I was trying to cultivate Dewhurst for the future.

Then after the primary I met Cruz at a small friendraiser his supporters put on, and he hooked me. I've been a supporter ever since. He wasn't my only choice in this primary, but now that my other options have dropped out, Cruz is the only one left I consider acceptable.

Posted by: stace at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (CoX6k)

628 A whore is someone who sleeps around for kicks, for cash, for whatever.

A hooker is a professional and during business hours only does it for recompense.

Bristol is a loose woman/girl. And apparently doesn't care if she has another kid.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (Xo1Rt)

629 Yeah, an abstinence tour book-ended by 2 illegitimate pregnancies certainly isn't the type of hypocrisy we regularly slam liberals for.

Posted by: VBJonny at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (NX9H4)

630 Posted by: ThunderB at January 19, 2016 02:25 PM (zOTsN)

She's repeated that story at least twice.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 02:28 PM (qbqnC)

631 So if he talks now about how he supports a single payer healthcare system can we worry about that?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (qbqnC)

Yes indeed.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:29 PM (xuouz)

632 At what point did "family planning assistance" become "Get an abortion?"

Several years ago. Family planning is a euphemism for abortion nowadays. A few years ago, abortion clinics got really angry with Apple because when you asked Siri where to get an abortion, the only places that came up were anti-abortion places. Turns out, this is because all the actual abortion places didn't use the word "abortion". They used "family planning".

Which is, of course, a typical leftish "opposite phrase" because what they really mean is too ugly to use publicly.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 19, 2016 02:30 PM (2lndx)

633 At what point did "Bristol, maybe you should seek some family planning assistance" become "Get an abortion?"

Or maybe even "keep your legs closed until you get that ring on your finger?" Is that not even considered an option any longer? Even by people who claim to be strong conservative Christians?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (39g3+)

634 "Bristol Palin did not abort her babies just because her relationship with the men who fathered them did not work out; Sarah Palin did not abort just because her child was going to have special needs. That means a lot to some of us who have kids with special needs.
Posted by: IC"

It does. In today's society that sacrifice and risk is practically heroic and I admire the respect and love of life. Unfortunately, Trump extremely recently supported partial birth abortion for convenience and is hugely pro choice, so it is again dismaying that these guys are in his camp with their extremely divergent values.

Palin should explain herself without referencing vague like him dislike him statements, but with actual policy records.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (a7sQX)

635 "Definition. whore. A woman that sleeps with everyone but you."
Well no, she just slept with me last and now it's all bumpy and itchy.

Damn that whore.

Posted by: Drider at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (6Xbsz)

636 Aren't the Palin's 15 minutes up yet?

Posted by: LTCHAM at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (MzYgJ)

637 Is Surge some kind of soda pop?

I believe it is a brand name for a new laxative.

Posted by: Emporer Barakus Ten Puttus at January 19, 2016 02:31 PM (Hz9na)

638 >>> Actually, you're wrong People here have been very nice in their remarks about Palin for the most part..Many only voted for McCain because of Her....
Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:20 PM (/dSsq)

She was the only palatable thing about his campaign for me, she made voting for him less distasteful. In general I like her family and feel they have been overly abused in the media.

However, I can still be disappointed for her deciding she has to pick sides, and not choose the fiscal conservative. And use her daughter's post as a shield. Trotting out your daughter to fight battles for you is Clinton's spiel!

Posted by: LizLem, is dissapoint at January 19, 2016 02:32 PM (hvf9s)

639 Trump could win Iowa but I don't think he's doing anything there. Does he have a real turn out the vote effort there or is it just Twitter?

Posted by: Valdez at January 19, 2016 02:02 PM (nq/J2)
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He does have an organization there, but from what little I've heard on that front it's not as extensive as Cruz's, it's run if I recall by who ever was Santorum's IA guy.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:32 PM (MbrzC)

640 However, I can still be disappointed for her deciding she has to pick sides, and not choose the fiscal conservative. And use her daughter's post as a shield. Trotting out your daughter to fight battles for you is Clinton's spiel!


Kind of like the Alaskan version of the Kardasians...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:33 PM (/dSsq)

641 " Aren't the Palin's 15 minutes up yet?"

It depends on if she changes her mind at the last second and goes for Cruz. The it will be the second coming of Jesus-A.

Posted by: Drider at January 19, 2016 02:33 PM (6Xbsz)

642 588, nope. I left the site for a long time because I got so sick of it. I didn't use the highlander name back then. If you don't believe me, that is your choice, but it has been going on for a very long time whenever there is a thread about her. It is disgraceful. Whore this whore that, If I wanted that, I would go to daily kos.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at January 19, 2016 02:33 PM (COpZ4)

643 Yup. I imagine Rinse Penis and the boys are having many drunk nights trying to figure out just what fuck is happening.

Posted by: Soona at January 19, 2016 02:03 PM (Fmupd)
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So same as it's been since last spring.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:34 PM (MbrzC)

644 It depends on if she changes her mind at the last second and goes for Cruz. The it will be the second coming of Jesus-A.

Not for Me... I'm totally undecided... I just think all this name calling is getting tiring....

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:35 PM (/dSsq)

645 My position in life is I never hold the parents totally responsible for their kids actions. There are of course exceptions ( looking at you affluenza mom). I've known great parents whose kids or kid has gone off the rails. Their siblings all turned out great. It's a crap shoot with the only difference is that good parenting can increase the odds.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 02:35 PM (qbqnC)

646 645 My position in life is I never hold the parents totally responsible for their kids actions.

Then You better stay out of politics....

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (/dSsq)

647 Can We talk about Hillary! now?

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:37 PM (/dSsq)

648 THIS JUST IN:

Palin endorses sheer pantyhose: "They make your legs look really nice."

Posted by: An Observation at January 19, 2016 02:37 PM (Hz9na)

649 For her, I voted McCain. Will not do the same for Trump.

Posted by: S at January 19, 2016 02:38 PM (HCXGq)

650 Trump is not a conservative, or even a sane person.

1) twitching, pretending to be retarded
2) "blood coming out of her eyes, out of her whatever"
3) "Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that?"
4) ban all Muslims from the US
5) 45% tariffs on China


Why is it necessarily "conservative" to move all the manufacturing to China?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at January 19, 2016 02:39 PM (kCfMX)

651 There should just be a national primary

Posted by: Valdez at January 19, 2016 02:04 PM (nq/J2)
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I'd prefer a rotating set of states (every 4 years a different set of five get to go first) that go 4-6 or so at a time over 10-12 weeks.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:39 PM (MbrzC)

652 This is why I love AoSHQ.

You couldn't find a group of people at MSNBC or Daily Kos to hate on Palin like this place. It doesn't matter what someone has done or hasn't done, the pundits here can find a reason to wish them dead.

We deserved Obama and a hundred more like him.

Posted by: jwest at January 19, 2016 02:39 PM (Zs4uk)

653 it could have functioned in perpetuity.

You can't take x value out of the economy, spend y value on "costs" and then have more than x-y left to put back in the economy later.

Posted by: DaveA at January 19, 2016 02:40 PM (DL2i+)

654 by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:36 PM (/dSsq)

Ronald Reagan had two great kids and two losers. You never know.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 19, 2016 02:40 PM (qbqnC)

655 Don't give up after Iowa, he is gaining fast in GA and leading in CA. If Cruz takes the SEC primary with CA and TX probably wins the election.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (74ZYB)
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He's not gaining in GA, he is ahead in CA though.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (MbrzC)

656 498 481 Late here but I don't think a Palin endorsement holds all that much weight...
Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:05 PM (/dSsq)

Nor should it. But here we all are, talking about Donald.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 19, 2016 02:07 PM (xuouz)
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What would be hilarious is if it's not Palin, but say Brandstat or something.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:43 PM (MbrzC)

657 Is that the big announcement/guest he was trotting out today? Or is there something else later.

Posted by: ghost of Jeff Goldblum at January 19, 2016 02:08 PM (H9MG5)
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Not it, supposed big one is Later or tomorrow.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:44 PM (MbrzC)

658 509 Cruz on Twitter fifteen minutes ago:

"I love @SarahPalinUSA Without her support, I wouldn't be in the Senate. Regardless of what she does in 2016, I will always be a big fan."

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 19, 2016 02:09 PM (21hN3)
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What his spokesperson should have just said from the jump. lol

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:45 PM (MbrzC)

659 >>> You couldn't find a group of people at MSNBC or Daily Kos to hate on Palin like this place. It doesn't matter what someone has done or hasn't done, the pundits here can find a reason to wish them dead.


The rhetoric is a bit strong and salty on this topic, yes, but one of the things I enjoy about this place is a lack of a hivemind. People strongly like or dislike people here and can openly disagree, and that's fine! It's refreshing.

And I'm pretty sure the Palin Haterade over at Kos has a stronger kick from it than whatever is being dished out here. Diluted now because Obama won but it was crazy poisonous in 2008.

Posted by: LizLem, is dissapoint at January 19, 2016 02:48 PM (hvf9s)

660 1. I never could stand listening to Palin, her voice irritates me.

2. Why do Republicans feel the need to give the Democrats ammunition? What if Cruz gets the nomination? Are they going to say, "Hey, we think he's really likable now!" You don't hear Democrats saying that Hillary is really unlikable.

3. Making likability so important reminds me of the GOPe refusing to stand up for themselves or say anything bad about the Dems. They think it is more important than it turns out to be.

Layers of stupid.

Posted by: Abby Normal at January 19, 2016 02:48 PM (jzFjy)

661 I left the site for a long time because I got so sick of it.

There was some Palin hate, but the truth is, almost all of it came from embittered fiscal types who despise social conservatism and were certain it was her that ruined everything (shaking cane). The fact that McCain was the single most unlikable human on the planet, run when Republicans had the worst brand rating of all time just was ignored. She was the only bright spot in the campaign.

But recognizing that she's being foolish if she endorses Trump over Cruz and further noticing that her daughter has some credibility and moral issues is not "bashing" Palin and being mean to her.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 02:50 PM (39g3+)

662 623 It is really disappointing that Palin isn't siding with Cruz.

Trump supported Obama, Sarah! Trump bought into Hope and Change. He voted against you in 2008....
Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (a7sQX)
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Astounding, what other Photoshopped tweets have you bought into?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:55 PM (MbrzC)

663 57 You know, I'm having a real hard time scraping up any fucks to give.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 19, 2016 01:09 PM (kpqmD)

=======================
Let me help you out:

http://tinyurl.com/n2cj7dw

Posted by: Juneau City Council at January 19, 2016 03:01 PM (O4NI/)

664 Do you hear that? Sounds like somebody is playing TAPS for Cruz!

Posted by: John Falco at January 19, 2016 03:08 PM (pZyrD)

665
Trump supported Obama, Sarah! Trump bought into Hope and Change. He voted against you in 2008....
Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 02:27 PM (a7sQX)

That's a straight up lie from Beck. Bi-Polar Beck used a tweet from a fake Trump account.

Trump supported and voted for McCain and Romney.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 03:16 PM (o7C/a)

666 1) Line up in open view of the enemy.
2) Ready
3) Aim
4) Shoot yourself in the head

It does seem the only choices allowed us are evil and chaos.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 19, 2016 03:16 PM (bLnSU)

667 I have defended
Palin for a long, long time.
But that's over now.

I have been defending Sarah Palin since 2008 because I presumed that she had a conservative ideology, was Pro-Life, Pro-2A, and in favor of a smaller, responsive government. Even as she morphed into a Reality TV star, I still stuck up for her.

But now she is climbing into bed with another Reality TV star, and ideology apparently has nothing to do with it. There is absolutely no reason to think that Donald Trump is conservative, Pro-Life, Pro-2A or in favor of smaller responsive government. There is no way to know what he is for.

Where you are going, Sarah, I can not follow. I hope it was worth it, because the only people who still supported you are stubborn ideologues like me. We will not be going with you to the Trump camp, and nobody there is going to like you when you get there.

Posted by: Haiku Guy at January 19, 2016 03:16 PM (hmj8n)

668 When my people endorse my candidate, they choose wisely.
When my people endorse someone else, they choose poorly.

Posted by: rico at January 19, 2016 03:17 PM (V+gHj)

669
So Trump gets endorsements from:

1) Sarah Palin - pending as of right now ?- 3:22pm
2) Phyllis Schlafly - The Queen of conservative movement
3) Loretta Lynn - Queen of Country Singing
4) John Wayne's Daughter - The Duke was a conservative Republican

He's doing wonderfully with the conservative ladies.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 03:26 PM (o7C/a)

670 For all you clueless morons who don't understand this.

Beck hates Palin and Cruz joined up with Beck.

Google: Breitbart Glenn Beck.

Beck is scum.

Posted by: gh at January 19, 2016 03:30 PM (YlqSL)

671 "Trump supported and voted for McCain and Romney.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 03:16 PM (o7C/a)"

I cited no tweets. I said nothing about Mccain or Romney. I haven't listened to Beck in years.

It sounds like you are arguing about some twitter thing I wasn't basing my comment on.

Trump in 2008 lavished praise and called Hillary amazing and Obama great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvlHvntyb1Y

That's just a fact.

He also praises Putin and praised Al Gore, donating directly to the cause of removing overseas military ballots. Trump is no friend to small government.

Trump also said that George W Bush was the worst president in American history and the most evil president in American history.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 03:31 PM (a7sQX)

672 1) Sarah Palin - pending as of right now ?- 3:22pm
2) Phyllis Schlafly - The Queen of conservative movement
3) Loretta Lynn - Queen of Country Singing
4) John Wayne's Daughter - The Duke was a conservative Republican

Palin is a reality TV star, and your number 3 and 4 are even more unserious celebrities. Don't you realize this country is in actual trouble? Stop mimicking idiocracy.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 03:33 PM (a7sQX)

673
However, I can still be disappointed for her deciding she has to pick
sides, and not choose the fiscal conservative. And use her daughter's
post as a shield. Trotting out your daughter to fight battles for you is
Clinton's spiel!





Kind of like the Alaskan version of the Kardasians...

Posted by: donna at January 19, 2016 02:33 PM (/dSsq)

This.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 19, 2016 03:36 PM (OrI3J)

674 Reminder: Palin endorsed Orrin Hatch over a conservative in his last primary. She made herself a joke. It could have been different.

Posted by: Born Free at January 19, 2016 03:43 PM (uGTin)

675 "Trump in 2008 lavished praise and called Hillary amazing and Obama great."

Ok. I get that and why it upsets you but Trump is a businessman, salesman EVERYONE is terrific, really great to him and his public persona. That's sales. That's keeping in the loop of the power brokers. Just a cost of business.

He's running now and wants to do things his way. I can live with a populist. He's done more in six months then - so called conservatives - have done since Reagan.

He's knocked every group from the uniparty/media complex back on their heels. One man.

You either get it, what he's doing, and what he wants to do or you don't.

Sure, I won't be thrilled with somethings but I bet I get 80% of things I want.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 03:43 PM (o7C/a)

676 True or false:

Trump donated to Obama campaign.

Trump donated to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee when Reid and Pelosi were the leaders of those organizations.

In 2006, Trump's donations to democratic congressional causes was approximately 50 times higher than his donation to republican congressional causes.

True on all the above!

I cannot prove Trump voted for Obama. Our ballots don't work that way. I just know he lavished money that way, prior to the election called Bush evil, and just after the election, in the video I just posted, Trump calls Obama great and his appointments amazing.

I went to bat for Palin a bunch of times and while I realize the GOP establishment has been very unfair to her, I am very disappointed and dismayed that she would support someone who obviously has no serious interest in conservatism.

Before Palin was governor, she made her mark by uncovering corrupt crony deals in Alaska, much like Trump's entire career of paying politicians and then using his connections for sweatheart deals. Trump represents a repudiation of everything Palin got right for so long. I hope she explains herself.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 03:45 PM (a7sQX)

677 "Ok. I get that and why it upsets you but Trump is a businessman, salesman EVERYONE is terrific, really great to him and his public persona. "

Except he called Bush evil and the worst president in American history.

Except his congressional donations were 50x higher to the left than to the right.

In short, no, he wasn't donating to everyone and praising everyone. That's just how he sells it now. Even that claim, if I believed it, is pretty awful. A crony capitalist donating to the people who have trainwrecked everything, just so he can eminent domain families out of their homes for his parking lot projects... that's no patriot.

"I won't be thrilled with somethings but I bet I get 80% of things I want."

Please be specific. What do you want, and how will it happen? What specifically will Trump do to get you, for example, a mass deportation or whatever this is.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 03:49 PM (a7sQX)

678 Ok. I get that and why it upsets you but Trump is a businessman, salesman EVERYONE is terrific, really great to him and his public persona.

Other than President Bush the younger, apparently.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 19, 2016 03:49 PM (39g3+)

679 "Palin is a reality TV star, and your number 3 and 4 are even more unserious celebrities. Don't you realize this country is in actual trouble? Stop mimicking idiocracy."

No. She's a highly successfu,l former Alaskan Governor who before she was trashed beyond recognition by the Uniparty/media.

Your little slams and characterizations against Trump and Palin as reality stars is lame and doesn't reflect the truth that they are successful people.

Trump is a billionaire with a long resume that includes successful international businessman, builder, real estate developer, AND television star.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 03:52 PM (o7C/a)

680 509 Cruz on Twitter fifteen minutes ago:



"I love @SarahPalinUSA Without her support, I wouldn't be in the
Senate. Regardless of what she does in 2016, I will always be a big
fan."



Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 19, 2016 02:09 PM (21hN3)

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What his spokesperson should have just said from the jump. lol

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:45 PM (MbrzC)

I didn't read his spokesman's statement, but as reported, it talked to the unsuitability of Trump rather than attacking Palin. Palin's daughter's take notwithstanding, the spokesman's statement as reported is not incompatible with Cruz's tweet.
Cruz's tweet, BTW is classy and something that Trump would never, never say in the face of possible rejection.
I do get Trump's appeal BUT he holds or has held a lot of positions that should be anathema for Palin. I am disappointed that she has joined in with the let it burn crowd with not a mention of that.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 19, 2016 03:57 PM (OrI3J)

681 GAH... spacing? What is spacing?

Posted by: redbanzai at January 19, 2016 03:57 PM (OrI3J)

682 "Except he called Bush evil and the worst president in American history."

I'm no fan of the Bush(s). I voted for him because of Kerry. I never bought into his being the second coming of Reagan. I found his "compassionate conservative" a giant tell. His Islam is a ROP makes me want to puke. His and his families friendship with Bill Clinton - brother from a different mother - revolting.

I hated when he call the minute-men border 'watchers' vigilantes. I hated that he never fought back for us against the media and left us in the lurch.

So yeah, Bush sucked, and sucks.

Didn't Bush just make it a point to get paid to visit a fundraiser for veterans a couple of months ago? Not sure but it wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 03:59 PM (o7C/a)

683 No. She's a highly successful, former Alaskan Governor who before she was trashed beyond recognition by the Uniparty/media....

Meant to add that she had an approval rating in Alaska of some - 70% before they put her through the mill.

She didn't have Trump's Fuck-You money to hit back at them. Also we know Trump and have known Trump for over 30 years. They couldn't define him to their liking for us like they could against an unknown Palin.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 04:04 PM (o7C/a)

684 Can the Christine O'Donnell endorsement be not too far behind?

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at January 19, 2016 04:06 PM (4KoRb)

685
"Other than President Bush the younger, apparently."

Yeah well, he lost me when he called private, patriotic citizens concerned about the border, vigilantes. And his love for Islam and Bill Clinton makes Bush a crappy president.

Bush handed the White House to Obama. That's how big of a loser he turned out to be.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 04:08 PM (o7C/a)

686 "Except his congressional donations were 50x higher to the left than to the right."

I've seen reports that he gave to ALL policitians. He played the game. We know he played the game. He had to play the game. He proudly admits he played the game. Who better to know how the game works. At that level you HAVE to play the game with politicians.


"In short, no, he wasn't donating to everyone and praising everyone. That's just how he sells it now."

I donated to anyone who asked. He said so.

"Even that claim, if I believed it, is pretty awful. A crony capitalist donating to the people who have trainwrecked everything, just so he can eminent domain families out of their homes for his parking lot projects... that's no patriot."

Cruz is taking money from the same crony capitalists. At least Trump didn't make promises to his constituents that he wasn't like lying Cruz - GS.


"Please be specific. What do you want, and how will it happen? What specifically will Trump do to get you, for example, a mass deportation or whatever this is."

The wall. First and foremost. That sets the ball in motion and dominoes fall from there.

If only the current laws were enforced we'd be 95% there already. It's not difficult for someone who actually wants it done. Trump is the ONLY one who wants it done.

Sure, it's a risk but EVERYONE else is a proven liar on the subject. I don't believe for one minute Cruz isn't pro-Amnesty.



Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 04:18 PM (o7C/a)

687 "I donated to anyone who asked. He said so."

Meant

"He donated..."

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 04:23 PM (o7C/a)

688 I'm not sure what's going on behind the scenes, but it should be clear by now that Trump, love him or hate him, is nobody's fool.

Posted by: artemis at January 19, 2016 04:24 PM (AwPyG)

689 Sure, it's a risk but EVERYONE else is a proven liar on the subject. I don't believe for one minute Cruz isn't pro-Amnesty.









Posted by: Misfortune Pestilence at January 19, 2016 04:18 PM (o7C/a)

What, in Cruz's entire history, makes you think he is pro-amnesty? I don't see it... and Jeff Sessions doesn't believe it either.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 19, 2016 04:24 PM (OrI3J)

690 683

How can you support a quitter? She treats leadership like her college career. If she didn't get along with a prof. or her grades sucked, she transferred. Trump knows what she is and none of his f-u money will go to her.

Posted by: Quit Palin at January 19, 2016 04:26 PM (bpemY)

691 Bristol Palin has less creditworthiness on this subject than Snooki does.
What has she done in life? She got knocked up at 17, and the father backed out of marrying her. She ran around collecting speaking fees on how one should not get knocked up at 17 or at any age without being married, and then promptly got knocked up again.

Came out with a "don't judge me because I'm not perfect speech" . Somewhere in between these two events , she pranced around on Dancing with the Stars in order to heighten her public exposure and raise her speaking fees.

So now, because she hasn't been in the public spotlight on some reality TV show or in US magazine detailing her latest legal custody battle or broken hearted my sixth lover just left me diatribe, she is going to give everyone her political opinions.

Why is this even a news story?

Posted by: Jen the original at January 19, 2016 04:32 PM (O0Kvv)

692 He played the game. We know he played the game. He had to play the game. He proudly admits he played the game. Who better to know how the game works. At that level you HAVE to play the game with politicians.
...
He donated to anyone who asked. He said so.
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That's exactly what he's going to tell all the Democrats if he wins the primary.

"Hey, I had to say I was against immigration and gun control and abortion, that was how the game worked."

Trump will play you for a chump, he's practically already promised to.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 04:39 PM (74ZYB)

693 " "Except his congressional donations were 50x higher to the left than to the right."

I've seen reports that he gave to ALL policitians. He played the game."

Hey, misfortune, you're entitled to your opinions and you're entitled to support Trump. I just wanted to be absolutely clear that my 50x comment wasn't hyperbole. He literally supported Pelosi and Reid's congressional efforts 50 times as much as he did the GOP. This was during the run up to Obamacare passing.

Know who you're supporting. For some reason you are giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after such a cynical flip flop on politics while denying it to someone who actually walked the walk on his promises.

Some Trump fans just want to stick it to the GOP establishment that denied us an alternative to big government and debt. I get that. Some just like the personality of a thin skinned alpha jerk for some reason. I don't wish to insult you or pretend to know where you're coming from, but personally I do not think Trump deserves our trust. He's been a politician for a long time, pretending to be an outsider. It's a shtick.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 04:39 PM (a7sQX)

694 655 Don't give up after Iowa, he is gaining fast in GA and leading in CA. If Cruz takes the SEC primary with CA and TX probably wins the election.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 02:06 PM (74ZYB)
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He's not gaining in GA, he is ahead in CA though.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 19, 2016 02:41 PM (MbrzC)
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He cut Trump's lead from 27 to 10 in a month. See RCP.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 04:42 PM (74ZYB)

695 The "Trump was just playing the game" defense is too much like saying we should hire the fox because he was honest about wanting to eat the hens, unlike the lazy dog he bribed not to chase him off.

Plus, the game he was playing was dirty -- he wanted to seize people's land Kelo-style.

Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 04:49 PM (74ZYB)

696 "No. She's a highly successfu,l former Alaskan Governor"

LOL. I love how some people start their disagreements with the conclusory "No." You always know what you're about to get.

How is Palin highly successful? She resigned in disgrace over lawsuits. She failed to accomplish anything in Alaska. The very FOIA lawsuit abuse she resigned over was something she helped create as a reformer, so it's always been a little weird that she excuses her failure due to the law she made.

Since then she's been on TV a lot. Big deal. What exactly has she done since she quit her job? Her books were ghostwritten. It's not that impressive to endorse the presumed leader in a bunch of elections on facebook and twitter.

"Trump is a billionaire with a long resume that includes successful international businessman, builder, real estate developer, AND television star. "

Yeah, he met a payroll and good for him there. He was born connected and wealthy and used that wealth to buy support from greedy politicians. Trump has mastered the art of crony capitalism and in so doing has empowered the very politicians, Hillary, Gore, Pelosi, that conservatives rightly are critical of as they spend spend spend for their pals at GE or Google or Lockheed or Trump.

Trump has also done some awful things in business that are rightly called scams. Trump University, Trump Signature Suits (Made in Mexico by child labor), casinos, and a long list of other fly-by-night businesses. His businesses have often spent profligately and then cleverly used bankruptcy to defer the piper. That's not a source of relief to me when I think about how he would run our government and provide all these 'excellent' 'super' services.

He's not running on all that now. He's running on your fear. He is exploiting you.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 04:49 PM (a7sQX)

697 "What, in Cruz's entire history, makes you think he is pro-amnesty? I don't see it... and Jeff Sessions doesn't believe it either."

Before Trump went to the AZ border debuting his "Make America Great Again" hat, Me-too Cruz was speaking in the same slick-politician lingo of, "We'll
have a conversation AFTER we secure the border!"

His wife wrote (along with 30 others) and supported the CFR report for a North American Union in which borders are mere technicality and allows free, expedited movement between Mexico, America and Canada. Read the report.

And he'd be a natural born citizen of the North American Union.





Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 04:53 PM (o7C/a)

698 "Trump will play you for a chump, he's practically already promised to.
Posted by: TallDave at January 19, 2016 04:39 PM (74ZYB)"

I think this is a very good point. Trump's supporters say his former promises and endorsements and donations were not in good faith. He was a cynical savvy ruthless sort of guy who didn't actually support any of the people or ideas he said he did. He needed to lie for business reasons.

But now... he's promising big stuff again, and it's a complete reversal of most of his adult life, and we already know he's a liar about his politics.

So... why do y'all believe a thing he says? What's to stop him from, as Talldave says, saying he was just pretending to be a die-hard conservative because that's what it took to win? As nasty as that is, it's exactly what he's saying about his Obama/Gore/Clinton support.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 04:54 PM (a7sQX)

699 "And he'd be a natural born citizen of the North American Union.





Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 04:53 PM (o7C/a)"

Oh, you're a birther. I was wasting my time.

Posted by: Dustin at January 19, 2016 04:55 PM (a7sQX)

700 Everybody in Washington, DC hates Cruz.

Point in his favor, IMO.

Posted by: West at January 19, 2016 04:59 PM (1Rgee)

701 I've read many things over the years about Cruz and his position that tell me he's just another establishment hack on amnesty. Weaselly.

Here is what Cruz said in 2013 at the time of the Gang of 8 bill:

"Cruz Tries to Claim the Middle Ground on Immigration"

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/cruz-tries-to-claim-the-middle-ground-on-immigration.html?_r=1

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

"The amendment that I introduce removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight," he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.



Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 05:01 PM (o7C/a)

702 "Oh, you're a birther. I was wasting my time."

Yeah, me and the Founding Fathers.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 05:04 PM (o7C/a)

703 "I don't wish to insult you or pretend to know where you're coming from, but personally I do not think Trump deserves our trust. He's been a politician for a long time, pretending to be an outsider. It's a shtick."

"He's been a politician for a long time, pretending to be an outsider."

This describes Cruz to me. Sure he's hated by DC but I thinks that's just because Cruz rubs people the wrong way naturally.

"It's a shtick."

So is Cruz heading to the border to hand out Teddy Bears to illegals with Beck.

So is writing a full-throated endorsement with Paul Ryan in support of TPA/TPP and then giving a Kabuki vote after blow back from his supporters.

So was his "Corker" vote.


Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 05:13 PM (o7C/a)

704 "So... why do y'all believe a thing he says? What's to stop him from, as Talldave says, saying he was just pretending to be a die-hard conservative because that's what it took to win? As nasty as that is, it's exactly what he's saying about his Obama/Gore/Clinton support."

I don't think he's a die-hard conservative. Never had thought so.

Trump isn't fooling us. We know Trump's MO. It's not a mystery to us. I/We see Trump VERY clearly that's why your attacks against him don't work. You are not telling us anything we don't already know.






Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 05:19 PM (o7C/a)

705 "LOL. I love how some people start their disagreements with the conclusory "No." You always know what you're about to get."

You purposely slander and minimize Palin and then get upset when you are called on it. She had a history from before 2008 and they destroyed her accomplishments.


"How is Palin highly successful? She resigned in disgrace over lawsuits. She failed to accomplish anything in Alaska. The very FOIA lawsuit abuse she resigned over was something she helped create as a reformer, so it's always been a little weird that she excuses her failure due to the law she made."

They sent the rabid dogs after her and to save herself, family, and the State of Alaska the money and time consuming distractions, she resigned. It's disgusting that you approve of the treatment she was given by the uniparty/leftist/media complex. They were out to destroy her, as a person and politician.

"Since then she's been on TV a lot. Big deal. What exactly has she done since she quit her job? Her books were ghostwritten. It's not that impressive to endorse the presumed leader in a bunch of elections on facebook and twitter."

That's why Cruz is so hated. His supporters lie and misstate history. You sound like the back stabbing Nicole Wallace.

Let them come after your family and see how you feel. Really disgusting. No room for facts for you, uh?

Palin's endorsement must really hurt you.



Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 05:27 PM (o7C/a)

706 "How can you support a quitter? She treats leadership like her college career. If she didn't get along with a prof. or her grades sucked, she transferred. Trump knows what she is and none of his f-u money will go to her."

Are you F'in kidding me? They were out to destroy her not just politically but financially.

Damn. You people are just sick. Was she suppose to become destitute just because she had the audacity to irk the uniparty/media complex.

Good for her for taking the money and running.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 19, 2016 05:33 PM (o7C/a)

707 When the Republic is finally declared dead, it will have been a mercy killing.

Posted by: Mentor of Arisia at January 19, 2016 09:10 PM (ybzJi)

708 How is anything Cruz said "negative" ?? Every time Cruz states facts (Trump always has had those progressive views, and NY(C) is pro-abortion, pro-tax etc. they paint it as him being negative.

Posted by: Jamie at January 20, 2016 10:44 AM (nmX9f)

709 Whats all this likeable shit? Are they in 4th grade?

Posted by: JR at January 21, 2016 10:57 AM (gorSW)

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