"Undisputed PR Leader for the Progressive Movement" Shuts Down After Claims of Rampant Sexual Harassment and Even Sexual Assault


Don't worry, though -- because he's a progressive, this is just One Man's Transgression. This will not be part of any narrative about a War on Women from the dishonest, sneaky, sometimes assaulty cads of the allegedly "feminist" left.

By the way, I have no idea if this is true, of course. We've seen absurd allegations cast about by a cadre of young women now trained to believe that being sexually assaulted is part of their Rite of Passage (and if they're not assaulted, there must be something wrong with them, right?).

Still... shutting down the whole operation?

And... there are multiple accusers. I know there were multiple accusers in Salem, too, but still.

FitzGibbon Media, a prominent progressive public relations firm, abruptly shut down on Thursday amid allegations of sexual harassment and assault by the company's president.

Trevor FitzGibbon and his team worked with some of the biggest progressive organizations, including NARAL, MoveOn, the Center for American Progress and the AFL-CIO, as well as Wikileaks, Chelsea Manning and The Intercept. The company sponsored an event with The Huffington Post earlier this year.

Multiple female employees came forward with accusations of sexual harassment and assault against FitzGibbon, according to employees who spoke with The Huffington Post.

A statement from FitzGibbon staffers read:

Former FitzGibbon Media Staffers Respond to Sexual Assault and Harassment Allegations Against Trevor FitzGibbon

The team that comprised FitzGibbon Media is incredibly sad and disappointed to confirm that allegations have been made against Trevor FitzGibbon, FitzGibbon Media founder and President, for sexual assault and harassment of multiple female staffers. Staffers reported over a half dozen incidents of sexual harassment and at least two involving sexual assault committed by Trevor FitzGibbon against his own employees.

For decades, Trevor presented himself a champion of the progressive movement, claiming to support and respect women and feminist issues, from equal pay to reproductive rights, but his actions prove a hypocrisy so great that FitzGibbon Media closed its doors today, as we could no longer continue working under his leadership. We lost our jobs standing up for what’s right, to ensure a safe workplace for all -- and while we may have been left without jobs, benefits and long-term healthcare, we have our integrity and each other.

We are devastated to see our beloved place of work closed at the hands of such a coward and hope to continue working on the social and political issues we love and care so deeply for in the future.

The guy faced harassment allegations at a previous firm.

The Huffington Post details the "harassment" part of the charges. He pressured women seeking jobs to send him photos and asked them up to his hotel room -- during the hiring process, apparently. (One woman refused to send him a "maxim" style picture as he requested, stating that she was working hard to be hired by him, and that doing so would "taint" any eventual employment.)

He told her that it was okay because he was "the boss" and so no one would know about it.

Several women say he pressured them for "hugs" and photos and of course hotel room visits.

The "assault" claims seem to involve sudden groping of the breasts. Or rather, one does, per the Huff Po, and then it says another claim is "similar."

And now for a little reminder of how "progressive" progressive cultures really are-- just as in Soviet Russia, everyone was equal, except that high members of the party got the good apartments and cars and all the other benefits of wealth.

Similarly, the progressive movement is very anti-rape -- except if you tell on a high member of the movement, in which case you fear you'll be drummed out of the movement entirely.

Amazing stuff here, also at the Huff Po.

Those ties also prevented some of these women from initially talking about what happened to them.

"If I stopped interacting with all the men in the progressive movement who made inappropriate statements or advancements to me in this business, I'd be nowhere
," said a former FitzGibbon client.

">b>I couldn't speak up because I was afraid of retaliation -- that I would get fired if I spoke up," added a female FitzGibbon staffer...

"This is probably a story you could tell at 15 other organizations," said a former Fenton employee who worked with FitzGibbon. "There are probably 20 other Trevors in our progressive movement in Washington.""

Exit Question:

How could it be that women working as part of a political movement ostensibly so dedicated to fighting rape culture would fear being ostracized and shunned if they reported on the alleged sexual harassment of one of the Kings of Anti-Rape Culture?

How could it be that sexual harassment is rampant in this movement?

How could there be twenty "Trevors" in a movement so dedicated to women's sexual autonomy?

Why, it's almost as if cult leaders become cult leaders for the power and the access to women.


Posted by: Ace at 05:09 PM




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1 1st?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 18, 2015 05:10 PM (AkOaV)

2 Cool.

Also, I don't want to perpetuate rape culture, so I'm not going to read the content.

I'm PC like that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 18, 2015 05:11 PM (AkOaV)

3 I still see people driving around with those HRC equal sign bumper stickers. Despite HRC's founder being a (alleged) child rapist. I don't expect anyone to treat this organization any differently.

Posted by: gm at December 18, 2015 05:12 PM (4ueYo)

4 Is a FitzGibbon a type of ape?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2015 05:13 PM (FkBIv)

5 How could it be that women working as part of a political movement ostensibly so dedicated to fighting rape culture would fear being ostracized and shunned if they reported on the alleged sexual harassment of one of the Kings of Anti-Rape Culture?

It's the Clinton shield: if you are a democratic/'progressive' male you are allowed to do whatever you want and the people who pretend to care about women don't give a shit. Because they don't actually care about women. Or they would be talking about islam, not frat boys.

Posted by: Lea - Unknown level of Nefariosity at December 18, 2015 05:14 PM (lIU4e)

6 Rod Steiger?

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at December 18, 2015 05:14 PM (ucB75)

7 And... there are multiple accusers. I know there were multiple accusers in Salem, too, but still.


And San Diego! See I'm innocent!!

Posted by: Bob "Filthy" Filner at December 18, 2015 05:14 PM (z/Ubi)

8 Are there pictures of these "breasts" ?

Posted by: Weasel at December 18, 2015 05:15 PM (e3bId)

9 Super Journalism~!

"The allegations come from women who are not just millennials, but whose ages span decades. "

Oh, and the whole affair? FEN'S LAW in the flesh.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 18, 2015 05:15 PM (9YDUz)

10 Because I'm I guy I guess I can't get the repeated agreements to obvious inappropriate requests. One and Done should become the mantra for potential harassment victims.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 18, 2015 05:15 PM (+hd5N)

11 Uh, sure sounds like there's a Progressive "rape epidemic" you guys.

Also, he looks college-educated and white.
So are pajama-boys lil' sexual harassers?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2015 05:15 PM (NOIQH)

12 Pretty bold talk for a one eyed FitzGibbon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2015 05:16 PM (FkBIv)

13 Waiting for the long, analytical, crying-in-their-beer articles about how progressive organizations encourage a pervasive "rape culture" in 3... 2.. 1...

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 18, 2015 05:16 PM (3TXtY)

14 And a week before Christmas too lol.

But who cares, right progs? Christmas don't mean nuthin' anyway.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 05:16 PM (4ErVI)

15 That said, have some respect. Don't send pictures, don't go to a hotel room and work somewhere else.

Hugs don't seem like a big deal, though.

Posted by: Lea - Unknown level of Nefariosity at December 18, 2015 05:16 PM (lIU4e)

16 That's mighty bold of you, ace.

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 18, 2015 05:16 PM (3TXtY)

17 Ace in The Barrel twice today.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 05:16 PM (4ErVI)

18 Ace in The Barrel twice today.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis


He doesn't come here for the fishing.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 18, 2015 05:17 PM (9YDUz)

19 Diversity in type format is our strength.

Posted by: RioBravo at December 18, 2015 05:17 PM (NUqwG)

20 This also reminds me of Bill Clinton, and how you had people like NOW's then president Patricia Ireland shrugging off Lewinsky as a workplace relationship.

This guy no doubt harassed women who worked for NARAL and other women's groups (maybe EMILY's List?) --- and they will put up with a scumbag like him, and scumbag politicians like Clinton and Ted Kennedy because they help protect their sacrament, abortion.

That sh$t is seriously f'ed up.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2015 05:18 PM (NOIQH)

21 Valerie said, I want some of that.


Posted by: Ralph at December 18, 2015 05:18 PM (8N2JI)

22 Why, it's almost as if cult leaders become cult leaders for the power and the access to women.

Plausible deniability.

Posted by: pep at December 18, 2015 05:18 PM (LAe3v)

23 I demand equality in formatting and typesetting!!!

Posted by: Times Roman Bold at December 18, 2015 05:18 PM (hJrjt)

24 The feminists haven't quite thought this all the way to the shocking conclusion. To wit:

Dudes pretend to be progressives/feminists so they can hit up and grope chicks and yet still enjoy the shield of protection that comes from being part of the "tribe."

These dudes would otherwise, were they not pretending to be feminists, get rejected and have charges filed against them.

Wake up, sisters.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2015 05:19 PM (jBuUi)

25 Say, do you think they've opened the position up for rehiring? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Bill C. at December 18, 2015 05:19 PM (LAe3v)

26 Why don't you sit on my lap and we can talk about what pops up?

Posted by: Trevor FitzGibbon at December 18, 2015 05:19 PM (dciA+)

27 It's rape from the top to the bottom. It's all about the rape, not the rap.

Posted by: Eromero at December 18, 2015 05:19 PM (b+df9)

28 Also, Fenton Communications is that PR firm that was part of Al Gore's global warming outfit which is also tied to the Tides Foundation and Soro's cabal.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 18, 2015 05:20 PM (9YDUz)

29 Trevor FitzGibbon

Assuming the queer capitalization isn't just a marketing gimmick, does this mean he fucks monkeys?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 05:20 PM (oVJmc)

30 This also reminds me of Bill Clinton, and how you had people like NOW's then president Patricia Ireland shrugging off Lewinsky as a workplace relationship.

And Nina Burleigh who said she would gladly go down on Bill to keep abortion legal.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2015 05:20 PM (FkBIv)

31 Is a FitzGibbon a type of ape?

Son of a Monkey!

Posted by: DaveA at December 18, 2015 05:20 PM (DL2i+)

32 Yeah, people are pretty messed up, all the way around.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 05:21 PM (dFi94)

33 >>Dudes pretend to be progressives/feminists so they can hit up and grope chicks and yet still enjoy the shield of protection that comes from being part of the "tribe."


Bingo!

Comedian Chris Rock made a joke that the best place to meet easy chicks was at abortion rallies. Not only will you get laid, but they'll take care it if she gets pregnant.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2015 05:21 PM (NOIQH)

34 Would you share a tent w/some OWS guy?

Posted by: BignJames at December 18, 2015 05:21 PM (HtUkt)

35 By the way, I have no idea if this is true, of course. We've seen absurd
allegations cast about by a cadre of young women now trained to believe
that being sexually assaulted is part of their Rite of Passage


Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Posted by: pep at December 18, 2015 05:21 PM (LAe3v)

36 Access to unintelligent young women with daddy issues, specifically. That's why these creeps hang out with the Left.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2015 05:22 PM (s/zlD)

37 This may explain why these women are such man haters. The men they hang with are utter scum, and that's all they've really known. Maybe there really is a "rape culture" by the odious ogres of men that they surround themselves with.

They'd hear me talk and think I was some Neanderthal of the lowest order, based on my politics, yet the men who "say the right things" are the biggest shit bags on the planet.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 18, 2015 05:23 PM (dvuhZ)

38 rampant

How hard was it to do that joke twice.

Posted by: DaveA at December 18, 2015 05:23 PM (DL2i+)

39 >>And Nina Burleigh who said she would gladly go down on Bill to keep abortion legal.

Exactly.
They despise conservative men who get and stay married, respect women, want to protect their daughters from creeps and places like PP, and public schools just dying to corrupt them.

They adore creppy, pervey, rapey dudes whose only quality is keeping abortion legal.

Does.Not.Compute.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2015 05:23 PM (NOIQH)

40 With these players it'd take a heart of stone not to laugh at them .
It's all commies on both sides of the accusations . Ha ha .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 18, 2015 05:23 PM (mP1RE)

41 And Nina Burleigh who said she would gladly go down on Bill to keep abortion legal.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2015 05:20 PM (FkBIv)


This is where the NOW hags lost all their credibility. With Clarence Thomas, the feminist standard was a thundering zero tolerance. But Clinton came along, and suddenly it was "well, the first one is free."

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 18, 2015 05:23 PM (3TXtY)

42 odious ogres of men

Would be a fine name for a rock band.

Posted by: pep at December 18, 2015 05:24 PM (LAe3v)

43 Hey, I get a pass because I'm for that equal pay stuff.

/etc

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 05:24 PM (oVJmc)

44
I don't know anyone at Fitzgoober, but I am pleased someone else is in the barrel instead of just me. Bitches probably asked for it with their low cut dresses and come-fuck-me spike heels.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at December 18, 2015 05:25 PM (OiFtZ)

45 It's all commies on both sides of the accusations . Ha ha .
Posted by: awkward davies at December 18, 2015 05:23 PM (mP1RE)


Yes, in this blue-on-blue fracas, I want both sides to lose.

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 18, 2015 05:26 PM (3TXtY)

46 Was your daddy a thief? Because he stole the stars and put them in your eyes. Say, do these pants show too much of my junk?

Posted by: Trevor FitzGibbon at December 18, 2015 05:26 PM (dciA+)

47 She said "taint", heh heh..

Posted by: Beavis at December 18, 2015 05:26 PM (8iiMU)

48 1) This is entirely consistent with the left's history of proclaiming to protect at the same time as abusing, and of excusing itself from rules.

2) I still want to see serious due process. This also makes me angry about the Cosby thing. I think he looks awfully guilty, but as far as he know he's only been tried in the media/social media.

Get some Goddamned due process going so you have something other than rumors and propaganda - oh, and guess who has the heavy hand on the propaganda stick...

It's almost like people want to be able to condemn but don't want to do the work to stop it, which then lets them criticize "the system" they are deliberately not utilizing for not stopping the Bad Things.

Cloward and Piven, mumble mumble.

I mumble because while these things get a mention now and then, nobody actually does anything about it. Nobody with any resources, anyway, just tinfoil hatters with pamphlets.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 18, 2015 05:26 PM (bLnSU)

49 >> Maybe there really is a "rape culture" by the odious ogres of men that they surround themselves with.


60's radicals treated their radical babes like crap - "the only position for women in SNCC is prone."

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2015 05:26 PM (NOIQH)

50 So Clinton and Ted Kennedy were the worst of "misogynists", or actually worse when one considers all the legal actions and stories against them. Yet those two were at the top of the progressive machine.

Clinton may be a pig but he is our pig, is how a leader of NOW explained it once, to Tammy Bruce, iirc.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 18, 2015 05:27 PM (26Yu7)

51 If I said you had a lovely body, would you hold it against me?

The job will offer all sorts of opportunities in the future.

Posted by: Trevor FitzGibbon at December 18, 2015 05:27 PM (dciA+)

52 Is a FitzGibbon a type of ape?




Yes. FitzGibbon Sitzpinkler. Island of Madagascar.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 05:27 PM (Yllyl)

53 The progressives support what, now, exactly?

Chastity?

Continence?

Purity?

The sanctity of life?

Any of the above?

Posted by: DM at December 18, 2015 05:28 PM (j/tOh)

54 If you are pro-abortion, you can put Mr. Happy in any place you like.

Posted by: Roy at December 18, 2015 05:28 PM (VndSC)

55 Pretty much what happen to the socialist worker party in the UK. A comrade was doing a lot of rapin'. The women would refuse to go to the police but instead went to other party members thinking they would do something. They told the women to suck it up. After a decade of this, the shit hit the fan and the party never recovered.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 18, 2015 05:28 PM (iQIUe)

56 Pretty funny.

You hire a bunch of progressive women, and they can gang up on you and make false claims, and your operation is done.

You avoid that by NOT hiring women, and you are sexist, and they gang up on you, and your operation is done.

It's lose-lose!

I have no clue what's true or not, and I really don't care.


Posted by: Ian Galt at December 18, 2015 05:28 PM (8iiMU)

57
Roll me over...roll me over....roll me over in the clover right now!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 18, 2015 05:29 PM (OiFtZ)

58 FitzGibbon is the publicly acknowledged *bastard son* of an ape.

His mother, though, still won't acknowledge him.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2015 05:29 PM (s/zlD)

59 I know there were multiple accusers in Salem, too, but still.
******************

You know who else had multiple accusers? Bill Cosby.


And Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Warden at December 18, 2015 05:30 PM (wHAYQ)

60 If you've ever heard Harry Reid reminisce about the Cub Scouts, there's a twinkle in his eyes that is unmistakable.

Posted by: Fritz at December 18, 2015 05:31 PM (BngQR)

61 The progressives support what, now, exactly?

Free love?

Abortion?

Euthanasia?

Any of the above?

Posted by: DM at December 18, 2015 05:31 PM (j/tOh)

62 "They will receive no bonuses and no severance. Their last paycheck will
be Dec. 31, and they will have health care through January. They were
also told they could keep their phones and computers."


Bummer. They've missed open enrollment for Obamacare!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 05:31 PM (4ErVI)

63 They have arrested a nurse in spain who performed forced abortions on FARC members in Columbia. The lady terrorists, who are just as bad as the men, would usually get pregnant as a result of rape by their fellow revolutionaries. About 50 or so were underage. They were then forced to abort.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 18, 2015 05:31 PM (iQIUe)

64 We may enjoy this but the MSM will ignore it....If CNN doesn't report it, it never happened...

Posted by: Colin at December 18, 2015 05:32 PM (T3Tpd)

65 If you believe Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinski etc., you have to believe these feminazis as well.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 18, 2015 05:32 PM (QdAXQ)

66 >>Say, do these pants show too much of my junk?
Posted by: Trevor FitzGibbon

LOL!

"Yes, yes, Madison, your resume is certainly impressive, Especially all you did while at Harvard and then at Stanford while getting your MB. However, I'm not sure I can make a final decision until you slip into this Victoria' Secret teddy and crawl around the hotel room for me"

Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2015 05:32 PM (NOIQH)

67 And of course, everything is a "pattern" unless the left is doing it. Filner, Clinton, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Gore, Weiner (tee hee), etc.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 18, 2015 05:32 PM (bLnSU)

68 You know all the high level prog shitheads knew what was going on but looked the other way.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 18, 2015 05:33 PM (iQIUe)

69
>> Maybe there really is a "rape culture" by the odious ogres of men that they surround themselves with.<<<


Projection, just like every other accusation they cast.

Posted by: Ralph at December 18, 2015 05:33 PM (8N2JI)

70 So they get fondled, molested by "their own" that they are afraid to report, and their guilt and self loathing subconsciously transfers over to a male outside the tribe ... like some frat boys.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 18, 2015 05:33 PM (26Yu7)

71 Continuing with this little train of thought, something just hit me. Me, my mind is in the gutter all the time and I can make some of the crassest sex jokes and all that. Yet, I'm the perfect gentleman at all times (unless I get signals otherwise, and my trouble is those signals need to be very clear.... :sigh: risk averse, I am)

Anyway, I've noticed that some men who profess offense at that kind of thing (in the appropriate settings, you know, back of barn, barroom, etc) are the ones you've got to watch.

That likely applies to these douchebags.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 18, 2015 05:34 PM (dvuhZ)

72 Well; I'm sorry if they were indeed harrassed and assaulted, but it might possibly get them rethinking their love for the Progressive movement.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 05:34 PM (qES5k)

73 So who, who counts, in the progressive movement is going to cast these women out?

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at December 18, 2015 05:35 PM (lePNR)

74 Letting employees keep company phones and computers.

That's just odd. Either everything they could be sued for is already public, or they think they really won't be sued.

Never known a company to give away devices without wiping them. Doesn't *sound* like that's happening here.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 18, 2015 05:35 PM (bLnSU)

75 Why, what he did was terrible, just terrible.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 18, 2015 05:35 PM (OZmbA)

76 We're living in an era of farce and irony. Firony?

Posted by: Clarney at December 18, 2015 05:35 PM (dgO4h)

77 I consider the dots connected.

See Roy at 54 above.

Posted by: DM at December 18, 2015 05:35 PM (j/tOh)

78 Well; I'm sorry if they were indeed harrassed and assaulted, but it might possibly get them rethinking their love for the Progressive movement.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


Highly doubtful.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 18, 2015 05:35 PM (FkBIv)

79 Me think Fitz Monkey is ick. He got no game. Real man grunt at female and offer squashed bunny as gift.

Posted by: odius the ogre at December 18, 2015 05:36 PM (s/zlD)

80 Well; I'm sorry if they were indeed harrassed and assaulted, but it might possibly get them rethinking their love for the Progressive movement.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 05:34 PM (qES5k)


If only Comrade Stalin knew about these abuses, he'd put a stop to it!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 18, 2015 05:36 PM (bLnSU)

81 If Trevor FitzGibbons do gibbons fit Trevor?

Posted by: Clarney at December 18, 2015 05:37 PM (dgO4h)

82 Boy oh boy. Can't wait 'til I get back in the White House.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 18, 2015 05:38 PM (OZmbA)

83 Wait wait wait, I'm confused. Is it Trevor FitzGibbons or Gibbons FitzTrevor ? There's an old homo joke in there someplace that I'm certain would offend me if I heard it again.

Posted by: dr kill at December 18, 2015 05:38 PM (msVAP)

84 I'm down with the struggle of women.

I like it when they struggle.

Posted by: Trevor FitzGibbon at December 18, 2015 05:38 PM (oVJmc)

85 PC Principal was in it for the tail? South Park already did it.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at December 18, 2015 05:38 PM (PvCxa)

86 Well, if a progressive male is doing all of this rapey stuff just think what conservatives are doing!

More reason to FIGHT them!

Posted by: Warden at December 18, 2015 05:39 PM (wHAYQ)

87 Some body explain why we shouldn't "Go All SJW" on this guy ?

Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords Schultz at December 18, 2015 05:39 PM (e8kgV)

88 You know, its long been a truism that the left accuses everyone else of doing what it either is already or plans to. Whether this is because they think everyone must be like them or fear that they will be, its almost always the case.

Now, for a long time we on the right have been scratching our head wondering why the left keeps yelling about rape and harassment they constantly undergo because, frankly, we don't treat women that way and respect them because they are women - its part and parcel of the traditional old fashioned concept of gender roles.

But what if they were yelling about it because... they constantly face that from their own team?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 05:39 PM (39g3+)

89 #WarOnWomyn

Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords Schultz at December 18, 2015 05:39 PM (e8kgV)

90 Bernie Sanders says all women fantasize about being groped by progressive males.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 05:40 PM (oVJmc)

91 How could any human think that environment anything except "anything goes"?

Posted by: Ralph at December 18, 2015 05:40 PM (8N2JI)

92 The only reason you're hearing about this is because it's risky to strangle a bitch to death.

Posted by: Trevor FitzGibbon at December 18, 2015 05:40 PM (4ErVI)

93 PC Principal was in it for the tail? South Park already did it.

Alls I know is Victoria Principal was freakin hot.

Posted by: eleven at December 18, 2015 05:41 PM (qUNWi)

94 PC Principal was in it for the tail? South Park already did it.

PC does stand for p***y crushing, so they say on South Park.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 05:41 PM (39g3+)

95 My guess is that Trevor isn't the only one at this company.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 18, 2015 05:41 PM (OiH3z)

96 The only reason you're hearing about this is because it's risky to strangle a bitch to death.


Posted by: Trevor FitzGibbon at December 18, 2015 05:40 PM (4ErVI)

Not really.

Posted by: Teddy K. at December 18, 2015 05:41 PM (oVJmc)

97 Yeah, they're Kennedy's.


Posted by: Ralph at December 18, 2015 05:41 PM (8N2JI)

98 Show me on the blog, where the bad man touched your comments.

Posted by: Huffington Post Toasties at December 18, 2015 05:42 PM (+1T7c)

99 Maybe he could take the VA Masturbator's job.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 05:42 PM (oVJmc)

100 not Kennedy's

Posted by: Ralph at December 18, 2015 05:43 PM (8N2JI)

101 re 64: 'We may enjoy this but the MSM will ignore it....If CNN doesn't report it, it never happened..."

HuffPo, NY Daily News and others reported it according to a glance at Google. He's a small fish. If it were a big name prog, the MSM would be all "oh, what about due process? Innocent till proven guilty!"

Posted by: Mallflower at December 18, 2015 05:44 PM (qSIlh)

102 Leftist culture starts to make a lot of sense when you just assume at the outset that all the crap they say and think about the rest of us is, in fact, the way they all think and behave.

Also, after seeing all the rape and literal crap coming out of the Occupy thingy, is anyone actually surprised at these revelations? I'm not. Not even in the slightest.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at December 18, 2015 05:44 PM (KkVB6)

103 I mean, if lefty women complain about being groped and harrassed and raped all the time, maybe they are... by the people they hang out with.

Which plainly is not anyone but other whackjob lefties.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 05:45 PM (39g3+)

104 In this particular case-if true- it was "Stalin" Fitzgibbon who was doing the assaulting so it's different.

This is why you should never give up on all Democrats. Poster Votermom and I both had political conversions in 2008 (but not because of sexual assault) because of actions of the Democrats and learning about Obama. I know women who became conservatives after they felt Hillary was given the shaft in 2008. You never know how or when people will see the light. It might happen in this case too. If true- as Ace indicated- there's a huge disconnected between what they say they believe and what they do. Can give a person pause for thought. The war on women is being carried out by many progressive men.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 05:45 PM (qES5k)

105 re 86: possible thread winner.

Posted by: Mallflower at December 18, 2015 05:46 PM (qSIlh)

106 So now, in this post -Christian, post-religious, post -moral society, that elected Bill Clinton, serial sexual harasser (covered by the complicit Media) and elected Barack Obama- the most incompetent, unconstitutional liar in the history of America, just what is so surprising about this?

It's burning, can you smell the smoke?

It will get worse. Are you surprised? Are you not entertained?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at December 18, 2015 05:46 PM (+1T7c)

107 Burn it to the ground
Twice
Then salt the earth where it stood

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 18, 2015 05:47 PM (h7V7+)

108 Sophisticated Trump:
Benedict Cumberbatch, you're in booth 12.
Joe Peschi, you're in booth 11.
Wait...

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 18, 2015 05:47 PM (VdICR)

109 Also, after seeing all the rape and literal crap coming out of the Occupy thingy

This is true, many rape reports and many more unreported because of the cause. I have read several reports of women who were raped by leftist groups but were silent about it because they didn't want to harm the cause. At least some women, perhaps many, feel deep down they deserved it at some level because of some provocative behavior or clothing, in some twisted psychological logic. Its not until much later you hear about it or read when they turn against the movement.

How much of this is going on, that we don't know about? Its one more reason to push in the face of the nearest lefty.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 05:47 PM (39g3+)

110 Want to know what the leftards are doing? Look at what they are accusing the right of doing.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at December 18, 2015 05:47 PM (xWW96)

111 >>>given the shaft<<<


Posted by: Ralph at December 18, 2015 05:47 PM (8N2JI)

112 You can be for equal pay for women, be for "reproductive rights" for women, and be for women sucking your dick when you damn well tell them to. They are not mutually exclusive things. Heck, if them bimbos want equal pay, they better well earn it amiright?

Posted by: PBJ1515 at December 18, 2015 05:47 PM (r1du+)

113 >>Hillary was given the shaft in 2008.

phrasing ....

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2015 05:47 PM (/tuJf)

114 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 05:45 PM (qES5k)

How long have you been quarantined?

Posted by: Trevor FitzGibbon at December 18, 2015 05:47 PM (4ErVI)

115 Remember the "Women Demand CNN Fire Erick Erickson" movement? This was the dude behind it. He's Markos' go-to publicity guy. No clue if he was behind that godawful Kos ad.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 05:48 PM (39g3+)

116 103...CT, that may be the blinding glimpse of the obvious.

Posted by: Clarney at December 18, 2015 05:49 PM (dgO4h)

117 It will get worse.

No doubt.

Are you surprised?

Nope.

Are you not entertained?

Nope; It keeps my attention, but not entertained.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 05:49 PM (qES5k)

118 Over 100 so OT:

Thanks to whomever suggested the Hochstadter's Slow and Low Rock and Rye in the food thread last weekend.

Hard to find here, a couple of the stores were sold out, but Mr. D was able to grab a bottle today. Tasty and will be a nice after-dinner sipper.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 18, 2015 05:49 PM (+eR2D)

119 When all you have is a charge of rape, everything looks like a schlong.


Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 05:49 PM (oVJmc)

120 Hey, no one has worked harder to put women in prominent positions on his staff than this guy.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 05:50 PM (oVJmc)

121 How long have you been quarantined?

I don't know what that means in respect to my political conversion; Sorry..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 05:50 PM (qES5k)

122 'Lay back and think of the Cause.'

Posted by: Garrett at December 18, 2015 05:50 PM (kpwrI)

123 Hillary given the shaft in 2008? So we can have Hillary the lying scrunt redux in 2016? That's because the Media and the powers in the Democrap party loved them some Barack the Magic Negro.

She's a very bad human being, and known now more than ever - with extra special evidence and circumstances, and yet still is to be something of a favorite to BE ELECTED PRESIDENT of the United States in 2016.

It's burning, can you smell the smoke yet?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at December 18, 2015 05:51 PM (+1T7c)

124 Join the Peace Corp., ladies

Posted by: Also Known As The Rape Corp. at December 18, 2015 05:51 PM (nbGZj)

125 When all you have is a charge of rape, everything looks like a schlong.

When all you have is a ball-peen hammer everything looks like ball-peen.

Posted by: eleven at December 18, 2015 05:51 PM (qUNWi)

126 So this 'groping' - that's cool?

Posted by: Weasel at December 18, 2015 05:51 PM (e3bId)

127 If you think human beings are just another animal without special value, if you think sex is just some meaningless biological act, if you think everyone is equal and exactly the same as everyone else, and you think that right and wrong are simply a matter of narrative and personal whim... why not grope, harass, molest, and rape women?

No wonder Clinton was so protected and coddled. He wasn't particularly surprising in his behavior, apparently. Roman Polanski? Just another Saturday night.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 05:52 PM (39g3+)

128 I strongly dislike seeing the words "Hillary" and "shaft" in the same sentence.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 05:52 PM (4ErVI)

129 The Pinball Machine in his office should have been your first clue.

Posted by: Jodi Foster at December 18, 2015 05:53 PM (kpwrI)

130 Didn't Billy Ayres use to pass his hippy chicks around with his radical black thug comrades ?
Nothin' new under the sun .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 18, 2015 05:53 PM (mP1RE)

131 Hey, no one has worked harder to put women in prominent positions on his staff than this guy.

*golf clap*

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 05:54 PM (39g3+)

132 The PUMAS assert that shenanigans were done in the caucuses in 2008. I wasn't a supporter of Hillary, but I believe them. And yes, there is a push for the second historic first. And of course, as should be obvious from people who read my posts that I have not voted for a Democrat since the primaries in 2008.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 05:54 PM (qES5k)

133 So this 'groping' - that's cool?
Posted by: Weasel

It wasn't groping-groping.

Posted by: Whoopie Goldberg at December 18, 2015 05:54 PM (/FOB4)

134 Darn, I missed the B.O. press conference thread. I need some laughs so I better go back and read the comments there. Later.

Posted by: wth at December 18, 2015 05:55 PM (HgMAr)

135 abruptly shut down on Thursday amid allegations of sexual harassment and assault

Shut down?! The weekend is just getting started!

Posted by: The Kennedy Compound at December 18, 2015 05:55 PM (ZxmMG)

136 Alls I know is Victoria Principal was freakin hot.

Posted by: eleven


Indeed. And again I say indeed.

Posted by: pep at December 18, 2015 05:56 PM (LAe3v)

137 New Fox Poll

Trump 39
Cruz 18
Rubio 11

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2015 05:56 PM (/tuJf)

138 So the next time you hear some bimbo rattle on about the "rape culture", tell that bitch to quit hanging out with progressives.

I'm actually kind of serious. You hear about this rape culture, but no one asks what kind of men these chicks are hanging out with. I mean if really is a war on women, and you are an unabashed progressive female, something tells me you aren't dating members of the College Republicans.

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at December 18, 2015 05:57 PM (sqs5K)

139 She was, however, no Sophie Marceau.

Posted by: pep at December 18, 2015 05:57 PM (LAe3v)

140 Posted by: wth at December 18, 2015 05:55 PM (HgMAr)

It is just incredibly embarrassing IMO to have a President who says at the end of his Press Conf. on terrorism, "Gotta get to Star Wars now"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 05:57 PM (qES5k)

141 Johnny Weir was a guest on an episode of Chopped; his charity, had he won, was one of those "human rights" groups. He went on and on about how they'd help him win the right to marry his husband. Johnny then turned out to be physically abusive, and is probably divorced by now.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 18, 2015 05:57 PM (FQKBL)

142 Maybe this was obvious to everyone else, but its making a lot of sense to me why women on the left are always screaming and complaining. If this is what they were raised in with uncle redlegs groping her on his lap and daddy visiting her room and telling her to lie back and think of Che, no wonder they're so messed up about men and constantly whining about how women are treated.

I grew up with a family and culture in a church where women were respected, honored, protected, and treated with kindness. I grew up in a culture where you didn't grope women or hit on them constantly. But apparently that's not the world these women know -- or these men.

I'm a peaceful man. I've never been in a fight in my life. I've been beaten on but did not fight back because I don't believe in it. But I'll hurt someone badly if they treat a woman like that. I'll dive in fists first if someone is mistreating a little girl. That makes me see a red haze and all reason slides away.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 05:57 PM (39g3+)

143 137
New Fox Poll



Trump 39

Cruz 18

Rubio 11

Posted by: JackStraw




pffffft. Wait until I express my displeasure with Mr. Trump.

Posted by: Jeb at December 18, 2015 05:58 PM (LAe3v)

144 This too, will all go down the memory hole.

And what about that Trump guy? Such an egotistical self centered jerk, huh?

And Mr. Romney, what about your GAFFES?


It's all like a bad tape loop replayed over and over again.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at December 18, 2015 05:58 PM (+1T7c)

145 >>It is just incredibly embarrassing IMO to have a President who says at the end of his Press Conf. on terrorism, "Gotta get to Star Wars now"

I will cut Obama some slack on this one. The White House was hosting the screening of Star Wars for Gold Star families.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2015 05:59 PM (/tuJf)

146 I strongly dislike seeing the words "Hillary" and "shaft" in the same sentence.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis


Then we can dig it.

Posted by: Shaft singers at December 18, 2015 06:00 PM (FkBIv)

147
It is just incredibly embarrassing IMO to have a President who says
at the end of his Press Conf. on terrorism, "Gotta get to Star Wars now"


I'm sure Vox loved it, and here's why...

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 06:00 PM (oVJmc)

148 Johnny Weir was a guest on an episode of Chopped; his charity, had he won, was one of those "human rights" groups.

My brother binge watched a bunch of those food reality shows and he came to a conclusion: you could tell who was going to make it to the final round, and probably win by what special interest group they belonged to.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 06:00 PM (39g3+)

149 I'll dive in fists first if someone is mistreating a little girl. That makes me see a red haze and all reason slides away.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor


Dude, your hardwiring is showing.

Posted by: pep at December 18, 2015 06:01 PM (LAe3v)

150 I'm so thankful for Christmas.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:01 PM (dFi94)

151 Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2015 05:59 PM (/tuJf)

O.K. I didn't know that. I thought he was just having a private showing with himself, his popcorn and milk duds. Thanks for the clarification.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 06:01 PM (qES5k)

152 I will cut Obama some slack on this one. The White House was hosting the screening of Star Wars for Gold Star families.
Posted by: JackStraw

I'm sure that's just what Gold Star families want: to watch a slick, glossy fantasy invented by Hollywood and also Star Wars.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 18, 2015 06:02 PM (/FOB4)

153 Hey, at least I never sexually harassed anybody. I just disgraced my office in the Capitol building with crusty nucleic acid deposits.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at December 18, 2015 06:02 PM (/f6Nd)

154 War on women?

It's a War on Civilization and civilized order, and civilized behavior.


The women tragically hurt by all this (and yes, they are out there) are just incidental casualties.

They have to break some eggs to make an omelet. Pretty bad omelet makers, they are. Where are the upsides to all this? C'mon Barry, show us your results.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at December 18, 2015 06:02 PM (+1T7c)

155
It is just incredibly embarrassing IMO to have a President who says at the end of his Press Conf. on terrorism, "Gotta get to Star Wars now"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
.........................

Really? Good grief now I HAVE to go read the comments!

Posted by: wth at December 18, 2015 06:02 PM (HgMAr)

156 I'm so thankful for Christmas.

Me too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 06:02 PM (qES5k)

157 141 Johnny Weir was a guest on an episode of Chopped; his charity, had he won, was one of those "human rights" groups. He went on and on about how they'd help him win the right to marry his husband. Johnny then turned out to be physically abusive, and is probably divorced by now.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 18, 2015 05:57 PM (FQKBL)


An *sshole chef? Get OUT!

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 18, 2015 06:03 PM (vgIRn)

158 The White House was hosting the screening of Star Wars for Gold Star families.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2015 05:59 PM (/tuJf)
==============================================

With all due respect to those families, if I were in their shoes the last place you would see me is watching a movie with Obama.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:03 PM (dFi94)

159 Who wouldnt want to see Ewoks do sexy time?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 18, 2015 06:03 PM (iQIUe)

160 Were references made to binders? Then no story here.

Posted by: MSM at December 18, 2015 06:03 PM (tfM+W)

161 One in five women who go to work for progressive causes or campaigns end up being sexually assaulted.

Maybe even one in four!

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 18, 2015 06:04 PM (nFdGS)

162 Ol' Fitz thought he was at the vanguard of the Occupy Vagina movement.

But he wasn't the first, nor only douche to fill that void.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 18, 2015 06:04 PM (McRlu)

163 With all due respect to those families, if I were in their shoes the last place you would see me is watching a movie with Obama.


Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:03 PM (dFi94)



YOu and me both.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 18, 2015 06:05 PM (+eR2D)

164 "And Nina Burleigh who said she would gladly go down on Bill to keep abortion legal."

Burleigh, let us recall, having worked as the chief Clinton White House correspondent for _Time_.

But you know that her published coverage of the HillBilly administration was completely on the up and up! Purely factual, objective, neutral, and nonpartisan. Yes sirree.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2015 06:05 PM (noWW6)

165 Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:03 PM (dFi94)

Me either, but I think when you get an invitation from the President it's sort of hard to say "No". Some probably worry that they''ll get the IRS housing them if the say "No thanks".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 06:05 PM (qES5k)

166 One in five women who go to work for progressive causes or campaigns end up being sexually assaulted.

Maybe even one in four!
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge

They're also paid 75 cents on the dollar men get paid.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 18, 2015 06:05 PM (/FOB4)

167 Dude, your hardwiring is showing.

Apparently some have managed to bypass that in their souls. They call it a "seared conscience" when someone does evil so long they no longer feel guilt or shame, when what was once unthinkable becomes commonplace.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 06:05 PM (39g3+)

168 Sorry-"hounding them" not "housing" them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 06:06 PM (qES5k)

169 Me either, but I think when you get an invitation
from the President it's sort of hard to say "No". Some probably worry
that they''ll get the IRS housing them if the say "No thanks".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 06:05 PM (qES5k)
=================================================

Probably true on both counts. I know 2 Gold Star moms. Both young men loved the Lord, so there is comfort in that.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:07 PM (dFi94)

170 Trevor picked the wrong week to not quit sniffing panties.

Posted by: McCroskey at December 18, 2015 06:08 PM (KSP4V)

171 >>Me either, but I think when you get an invitation from the President it's sort of hard to say "No". Some probably worry that they''ll get the IRS housing them if the say "No thanks".

Yea, I saw Tapper talking about this earlier. He said that he personally knew one young boy who was going to the movie with his mother. His father, whom he had never met, died in Afghanistan.

I don't think too many mothers would tell their young son, "No, we can't accept the invitation of the President of the United States to see the new Star Wars at the White House".

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2015 06:08 PM (/tuJf)

172 MSM: He gets a pass because erection year.

Posted by: USA at December 18, 2015 06:10 PM (tfM+W)

173 "But I'll hurt someone badly if they treat a woman like that."

Have to confess that I will no longer bristle up and fight on behalf of a woman who isn't part of the circle of friends and family. Just the tenor of the times.

The feminista left: "Chivalry is dead. We don't need it. You men stop doing it."

Men: "Huh. Well, okay then."

Later...

The feminista left: "OMG! She was being rudely groped in public and _no one did anything to prevent it from happening_! The men refused to step up! What a bunch of cowards!"

Posted by: torquewrench at December 18, 2015 06:11 PM (noWW6)

174 Horde is on fire tonight - so many thread-winner candidates up there I can't pick just one !

Though "lie back and think of Che" has stuck with me, earworm-style.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (rock salt and fire-hook at the ready !) at December 18, 2015 06:12 PM (erRNA)

175
I will cut Obama some slack on this one. The White House was hosting the screening of Star Wars for Gold Star families.
Posted by: JackStraw
....................................

Besides, doesn't Big Mooch play Chewie or did they find someone else?

Posted by: wth at December 18, 2015 06:12 PM (HgMAr)

176 I'm so thankful for Christmas.

Same here.

I'm looking at the tree I just got with an adult beverage in my paw and our Little G'Dette is coming over tomorrow to help us decorate it. There's a chill in the air (for Florida), so we'll throw a log in the fireplace, fix brownies and hot chocolate and spend time with some of the kids.

Life is good.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 06:12 PM (LUgeY)

177 Shouldn't someone be grilling Kos over turning a blind eye and letting this guy run wild all this time?

Sure, it's unfair, and he'd do it to us.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 06:13 PM (oVJmc)

178 So is this weasel related to Bob Fillmer?

Backwards Boy, your weekend sounds nice. Enjoy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 18, 2015 06:14 PM (voOPb)

179 So I'm tracking an Amazon package. It says it was put on the truck at 2:44 AM and is on its way for delivery. The putting-on-the-truck part was done eleven miles from my house. At 2:44 AM. I'm thinking it should be here by now.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:14 PM (dFi94)

180 Never cut TFG slack.

Ever.

Posted by: eleven at December 18, 2015 06:14 PM (qUNWi)

181 >>Besides, doesn't Big Mooch play Chewie or did they find someone else?

Heh. Supposedly, she was the one doing the actual hosting so yea.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2015 06:14 PM (/tuJf)

182 I in 4 get harassed,3 in 4 complain that " no one finds them attractive".

Posted by: Steevy at December 18, 2015 06:14 PM (8HTq1)

183 Bernie Sanders is suing the DNC over not getting his applesauce cups at the debates. There also is another issue about data or something.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 06:14 PM (4ErVI)

184 Sure, it's unfair, and he'd do it to us.

Maybe its not unfair. He had to hear rumors, rumbles, complaints. People who were his buddies and worked with him would have worked with this guy. Women he knew. I mean, I don't see Kos groping anything but his anime-style printed pillow but he had to know the other guy was.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 06:15 PM (39g3+)

185 He should start a new agency with Carlos Danger

Posted by: USA at December 18, 2015 06:15 PM (tfM+W)

186 "Multiple female employees came forward with accusations of sexual harassment and assault against FitzGibbon, according to employees who spoke with The Huffington Post."

--------

Don't these silly girls know that it's not sexual assault if the perpetrator is a progressive or a muslim?

Posted by: Decaf at December 18, 2015 06:15 PM (mkWIY)

187 Agressor sets the ROE.

In that context, "fair" literally has no meaning.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (rock salt and fire-hook at the ready !) at December 18, 2015 06:15 PM (erRNA)

188 Bernie Sanders is suing the DNC over not getting his applesauce cups at the debates. There also is another issue about data or something.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis


He was late to the dinner table.

Posted by: Nurse Diesel at December 18, 2015 06:16 PM (FkBIv)

189 KOS gropes his cat.

Posted by: eleven at December 18, 2015 06:16 PM (qUNWi)

190 Get there and canvass for the cause, sweetie--but first, quit your grinning and drop your linen!

Posted by: derit at December 18, 2015 06:17 PM (jT+gh)

191 179
So I'm tracking an Amazon package. It says it was put on the truck at
2:44 AM and is on its way for delivery. The putting-on-the-truck part
was done eleven miles from my house. At 2:44 AM. I'm thinking it should
be here by now.


Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:14 PM (dFi94)

There is a disturbing tendency to mark things shipped as soon as the address label is printed out. Meanwhile the package sits in a dock for three days waiting for pickup.I ordered some supplements a couple of weeks ago and one of them shipped immediately and hit the door in three days. The other two languished for a week but just managed to get her on the latest day they said it would arrive so I couldn't really complain. First one came from Fargo and the other from Kenosha so both Midwest to Midwest.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 06:17 PM (4ErVI)

192
168 Sorry-"hounding them" not "housing" them.
"Hosing" them works, too.

Posted by: wth at December 18, 2015 06:17 PM (HgMAr)

193 "We lost our jobs standing up for what's right, to ensure a safe workplace for all"

---------

No, you lost you jobs because one of your own is a dirtbag.

Posted by: Decaf at December 18, 2015 06:18 PM (mkWIY)

194 First one came from Fargo and the other from Kenosha so both Midwest to Midwest.


Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 06:17 PM (4ErVI)
==================================================

Kenosha ? Well there's your problem right there.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:18 PM (dFi94)

195 No, you lost you jobs because one of your own is a dirtbag.

And there is no conceivable way that they didn't know it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 06:18 PM (39g3+)

196 Anyway,let them eat their own.

Posted by: steevy at December 18, 2015 06:18 PM (8HTq1)

197 Never cut TFG slack.

Ever.


He certainly doesn't cut us any, does he? He's made it crystal clear that it's his way or the highway.

It's past time to repay the favor.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 06:19 PM (LUgeY)

198 Kenosha ? Well there's your problem right there.


Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:18 PM (dFi94)

Kenosha is pretty bad, huh? I've heard having mail go through Chicago is the worst.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 06:20 PM (4ErVI)

199 Kenosha is a problem?

I always hate having to talk to her in customer service.

Posted by: eleven at December 18, 2015 06:20 PM (qUNWi)

200 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 06:12 PM (LUgeY)

Sounds very nice; Enjoy yourself.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 06:20 PM (qES5k)

201 Anyway,let them eat their own.
Posted by: steevy

That's what Huma's for.

Posted by: Hillary! Rodham-Rodham at December 18, 2015 06:20 PM (/FOB4)

202 Fuck him?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 18, 2015 06:20 PM (JY2Pq)

203 This reminds me of a couple articles I read a while back. My memory on the specifics is a little vague now, but one was a sort of biography of Jane Fonda, which went into all the exploitative behavior of the libertine artists and filmmakers whose circles she ran in, her ex-husband pushing her into three-ways that she always hated, and her misery throughout all this. The other was an article on girls who worked/lived in the Playboy mansion, talking about the sort of authoritarian monitoring they were under, given very limited freedom to leave without a chaperon and with very small stipends to spend freely. I'm personally not very moralistic about such things, but I can't help but notice that the institutions of the left seem to be pretty top-heavy with sexually predatory males.

Even comparing the extra-marital affairs of Republican and Democrat politicians, guys like Rudy Giuliani and Mark Sanford had affairs with age-mate women who ultimately they wounded up leaving their wives for, while Bill Clinton, Elliot Spitzer, and Anthony Wiener used women of low social status to get off a couple times, and in Clinton's case went on to denounce and destroy the young woman with the collaboration of his wife.

Posted by: reform highlander at December 18, 2015 06:20 PM (xf3KI)

204 putting-on-the-truck part

was done eleven miles from my house. At 2:44 AM.


The shortest distance between 2 points is never a straight line in a UPS truck, especially a week before Christmas.

Posted by: DaveA at December 18, 2015 06:21 PM (DL2i+)

205 Oh Grammie I feel for ya .
We have a package coming that was 35 miles away in Columbia S.C. on the 10th and for some reason the post office thought they should send it to North Carolina via Atlanta and Tennessee . It's just sitting in Greensboro N.C. now .
Face palm .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 18, 2015 06:21 PM (mP1RE)

206 Big deal.....women today get all worked up about the boss man getting frisky. Instead of telling him to piss off and kneeing him in the groin they get all "offended" (BS) and now want the lawsuits to fly. (Cha-Ching $$)
One knee to his left testes and this Bill Clinton wannabe would have stopped long ago.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 18, 2015 06:21 PM (ej1L0)

207 I'm in a theater that is showing Star Wars in about 10 minutes. As of right now it is empty. Why? Because the showing time was just added because the previous one that started 20 minutes ago sold out. So they just added this time last minute.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 18, 2015 06:22 PM (3tVs7)

208
This B+ list actress offspring of a permanent A list actor turned director turned narrator made a point of visiting every single child patient in several hospitals over the past month

Every single child. One on one time and gave each of them a tablet loaded with games and apps and of course her latest hit movie. She paid for everything. It had to be close to $100K.

============

The gossip is that it is Ron Howard's kid, Bryce Dallas.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 18, 2015 06:22 PM (iQIUe)

209 I never really connected with Fargo in "Lord of the Rings". It seemed that Samwise had more agency moving the plot along

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2015 06:23 PM (F4suY)

210 Kenosha is pretty bad, huh?
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Depends if you live on my street over here or that other street over there.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:23 PM (dFi94)

211 "Hounding them", "housing them", hosing them"; it's all the same to them.



Posted by: Ralph at December 18, 2015 06:23 PM (iRZl4)

212 Just a reminder, if it hasn't been made clear already, that Fenton Communications, Fitzgibbons' prior employer is yet another hive of Progressive scum and villainy.


The Left is a tight little club, and they are all dirty.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2015 06:23 PM (7MWCL)

213 Do they expect anything different from those who deny the moral foundafy of so iety?

Posted by: Jean at December 18, 2015 06:23 PM (fBkaR)

214 Then there's the issue of the shipper just not bothering to scan the package. So you'll see it left Los Angeles on such and such a date and all of a sudden delivered! It's like it didn't even pass through three or four places on the way to your door.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 06:23 PM (4ErVI)

215 "Why, it's almost as if cult leaders become cult leaders for the power and the access to women."

-------

They go into those fields because they are too inept to become famous musicians, actors or sportsmen.

Posted by: Decaf at December 18, 2015 06:24 PM (mkWIY)

216 while Bill Clinton, Elliot Spitzer, and Anthony Wiener used women of low
social status to get off a couple times, and in Clinton's case went on
to denounce and destroy the young woman with the collaboration of his
wife.


And the wives almost never leave them, so they submit to exploitation, as well.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 06:24 PM (oVJmc)

217 There is a disturbing tendency to mark things
shipped as soon as the address label is printed out. Meanwhile the
package sits in a dock for three days waiting for pickup.I ordered some
supplements a couple of weeks ago and one of them shipped immediately
and hit the door in three days. The other two languished for a week but
just managed to get her on the latest day they said it would arrive so I
couldn't really complain. First one came from Fargo and the other from
Kenosha so both Midwest to Midwest.


Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 06:17 PM (4ErVI)



I have an Amazon package that "Shipped" four days ago. Three days ago, the package was "Arrived at Carrier Facility."

Today, I get an email stating the items were out of stock and I'm getting a refund.

How the frick does that work, Amazon?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 18, 2015 06:24 PM (+eR2D)

218 The United Artists cinema in Denver's 16th street last night cancelled *all* their other movies so the nerds could get their fix

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2015 06:24 PM (F4suY)

219 We have a package coming that was 35 miles away in
Columbia S.C. on the 10th and for some reason the post office thought
they should send it to North Carolina via Atlanta and Tennessee . It's
just sitting in Greensboro N.C. now .
Face palm .


Posted by: awkward davies at December 18, 2015 06:21 PM (mP1RE)
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I think they send it wherever they feel like it and laugh at us behind our backs.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:24 PM (dFi94)

220 Depends if you live on my street over here or that other street over there.


Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 06:23 PM (dFi94)

Ahh so you live there! I should've called and threatened to send you down there to get the package .

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 06:25 PM (4ErVI)

221


Wait

You are telling me that men who advocate all morality is relative, free and easy sex with out consequence, and abortion on demand treat women poorly?

No

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2015 06:25 PM (zOTsN)

222 Meanwhile, the FDA is working on rules to ban anyone younger than 20 from ... tanning beds.

Sure you can vote, you can fight in a war, but you can't get a tan, son. For your own good.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 06:25 PM (39g3+)

223 It's sad that we live in an age where PR has to be contracted out.

Posted by: Golfman at December 18, 2015 06:25 PM (48QDY)

224 Pappy: governor Sanford's wife gave that Appalachian hiker the boot iirc.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2015 06:26 PM (F4suY)

225 FitzGibbon?


How come he gets two capital letters?


From now on I expect to be referred to as Seamus MulDoon

Posted by: Seamus MulDoon at December 18, 2015 06:26 PM (NeFrd)

226 222 Meanwhile, the FDA is working on rules to ban anyone younger than 20 from ... tanning beds.

Sure you can vote, you can fight in a war, but you can't get a tan, son. For your own good.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 06:25 PM (39g3+)

You left one out.

Posted by: Golfman at December 18, 2015 06:27 PM (48QDY)

227 Oh yeah, Fenton Communications, nexus of evil

Posted by: Jean at December 18, 2015 06:27 PM (fBkaR)

228 FuckingGuy

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2015 06:27 PM (zOTsN)

229 FitzGibbon?


How come he gets two capital letters?



Because his momma and daddy never married.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 06:27 PM (Yllyl)

230 130 Didn't Billy Ayres use to pass his hippy chicks around with his radical black thug comrades ?
Nothin' NEW under the sun .
Posted by: awkward davies at December 18, 2015 05:53 PM
----------
Yes. And many leftist groups, including the Weathermen, also have coerced members (particularly hetero males) into homosexual acts. The idea, as I understand it, is that a breakdown in sexual reticence is an effective mechanism to break down ALL moral reticence.

Remember that stuff about the "personal is political?" The True Believer can have no private space apart from the Party.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 18, 2015 06:29 PM (T/5A0)

231 FriskyGrabber

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2015 06:29 PM (zOTsN)

232 Today, I get an email stating the items were out of stock and I'm getting a refund.

How the frick does that work, Amazon?
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 18, 2015 06:24 PM (+eR2D)

Sounds like our government, too big too succeed

Hiya DG

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 18, 2015 06:29 PM (voOPb)

233 >>Just a reminder, if it hasn't been made clear already, that Fenton Communications, Fitzgibbons' prior employer is yet another hive of Progressive scum and villainy.

They were big into promoting the horrors of AGW, weren't they?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 18, 2015 06:29 PM (/tuJf)

234 228

Diet Pepsi table wash. Thanks

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 18, 2015 06:30 PM (voOPb)

235 FreakyGonads

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2015 06:30 PM (zOTsN)

236 the moral foundafy of so iety?

I will fight to the death for that.

Posted by: eleven at December 18, 2015 06:30 PM (qUNWi)

237 First to mention Ted Kennedy.

No? Good to see the Horde is on their game.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2015 06:30 PM (AfsKp)

238 I'm only saddened by the fact that Ted Kennedy has passed and wasn't able to make a 'waitress sandwich' with Trev. Waitresses aren't going to sandwich themselves, after all.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at December 18, 2015 06:30 PM (PvCxa)

239 I want to be empathetic to the women. I really do. That's
My natural natural Christian gut reaction. But it's hard to find sympathy for people who have been consumed by their own lack of humanity. Who put little value on defenseless human life, peddle subterfuge of religious freedom, undermine liberty and republican government at ever chance and generally thrive on division, chaos and support a cult who peddles a philosophy thas more in common with anarchy than anything else. They are the enemy and so fratricide is schadenfreud.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 18, 2015 06:31 PM (JY2Pq)

240 I'm in a theater that is showing Star Wars in about 10 minutes. As of right now it is empty. Why? Because the showing time was just added because the previous one that started 20 minutes ago sold out. So they just added this time last minute.

Prepare to be whelmed.

Posted by: eleven at December 18, 2015 06:32 PM (qUNWi)

241 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who
drove a red sports car at December 18, 2015 06:29 PM (voOPb)



How's it going, big bro? Ready for the weekend?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 18, 2015 06:32 PM (+eR2D)

242 Yep. Fayetteville NC processing center just or is shutting down. 400 workers. Average salary $73K.

Posted by: Golfman at December 18, 2015 06:32 PM (48QDY)

243 Nothing new here. Pedos like working with kids.

This little beast like working for women's groups ( or was that gropes? ).

Posted by: Kristophr at December 18, 2015 06:32 PM (6fIOn)

244 212 Just a reminder, if it hasn't been made clear already, that Fenton Communications, Fitzgibbons' prior employer is yet another hive of Progressive scum and villainy.

Reminds me of psychedelic-era Bee Gees:

Praise Fenton, Smirk

He smiled and rubbed the stubble on her groin
He sure shall find the weariness and dreariness of "fun" that's growing thin
Yet he didn't have so very far to go
With a condom in his hand he will travel on as planned
With a short step to a groping in the dark.

Praise Fenton, smirk, see him go, on his way
Oh they don't know why they're sad
Very very sick, very very sick.

Posted by: zombie at December 18, 2015 06:32 PM (jBuUi)

245 I'm in a theater that is showing Star Wars in about 10 minutes.

Han dies in a kiln explosion.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 06:32 PM (oVJmc)

246 "...about the Cosby thing..."
What if Cosby had extramarital sex with women who thought he would help there career and were good with it as long as they were Luded up.

How about Herman Cain? Could it be he used the same prostitute in Atlanta for 20 years?

How about Anita Hill? Could she be a woman scorned?

I'm sure these are all baseless speculations.

Posted by: seems simple at December 18, 2015 06:33 PM (PGh+Q)

247 You are telling me that men who advocate all morality is relative, free and easy sex with out consequence, and abortion on demand treat women poorly?

The entire 60s feminist movement seems to have been designed to dehumanize, debauch, and demean women. Sometimes they took it too far treating women like children who could do nothing, but putting women on a pedestal and protecting them seems superior to dragging them through a ditch and leaving them in an abortion clinic to hopefully not bleed to death or get breast cancer later in life.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 06:33 PM (39g3+)

248 "Prepare to be whelmed"

Especially if the toilets break.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 18, 2015 06:33 PM (F4suY)

249 "I'm in a theater that is showing Star Wars in about 10 minutes."

Turn off that phone you moron!

Posted by: old man at December 18, 2015 06:34 PM (PGh+Q)

250 Han dies in a kiln explosion.

Han Liebowitz?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Porcine Infidel at December 18, 2015 06:34 PM (RwwCT)

251 Han dies in a kiln explosion.

The part with the volcano is a yuuuge plot hole.

Posted by: eleven at December 18, 2015 06:35 PM (qUNWi)

252 I learned early on that SUDDEN groping of breasts rarely ends well.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2015 06:35 PM (dgyMP)

253 "Prepare to be whelmed"



Anyone have the line on under/over?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 06:35 PM (Yllyl)

254 Boulder:

Samwise was one of the stronger characters in the books. Frodo was always the Ring's little bitch.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 18, 2015 06:35 PM (6fIOn)

255 Posted by: awkward davies at December 18, 2015 06:21 PM (mP1RE)

My context paste fu is not so good.

Posted by: Golfman at December 18, 2015 06:36 PM (48QDY)

256 I can't figure out what it was that Cosby is supposed to have done that is so much worse than... every other guy in Hollywood except Rock Hudson.

He had sex with stoned and drunken women. He gave women drugs and booze to get laid. And...?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 06:37 PM (39g3+)

257 I strongly dislike seeing the words "Hillary" and "shaft" in the same sentence.


Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 18, 2015 05:52 PM (4ErVI)


What if that sentence were also to include "falling" and "mine"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 18, 2015 06:37 PM (7MWCL)

258 Did you notice his snarky bumper sticker?

Jesus loves wiki leaks?

anti religion, pro abortion, pro prog? Women are Kleenex to him

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2015 06:37 PM (zOTsN)

259 Anyone have the line on under/over?

I'll take the under but I *always* take the under.

Posted by: eleven at December 18, 2015 06:37 PM (qUNWi)

260 Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 06:35 PM (Yllyl)
Spoken like a true gambler. My neighbors are looking at me wondering why I'm laughing at my phone.

Posted by: Golfman at December 18, 2015 06:37 PM (48QDY)

261 FitzGibbon just naturally assumed that a bright red ass was an invitation.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2015 06:37 PM (dgyMP)

262
The part with the volcano is a yuuuge plot hole.


but Brian Dennehy played the volcano well.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 18, 2015 06:37 PM (39g3+)

263 FitzGibbon just naturally assumed that a bright red ass was an invitation.

...its not?

Posted by: A Mandrill at December 18, 2015 06:39 PM (39g3+)

264 "Cloward and Piven"

Is destroying the Government. The idiots think they get to choose what it is replaced by.

Posted by: old man at December 18, 2015 06:39 PM (PGh+Q)

265 I love these reports from the Star Wars theaters except nobody is saying anything about the movie!

Tell me the juicy bits, the good stuff. I want the spoilers!

Posted by: Elder Youngling at December 18, 2015 06:39 PM (FMymL)

266 241 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who
drove a red sports car at December 18, 2015 06:29 PM (voOPb)


How's it going, big bro? Ready for the weekend?
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 18, 2015 06:32 PM (+eR2D)

#2hoursago

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 18, 2015 06:40 PM (voOPb)

267 Nood

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 18, 2015 06:40 PM (+eR2D)

268 Thanks, F-Bomb.

I hated to bust up the thread, but I encountered so many people with smiles while out this afternoon at the liquor store and getting the tree and got wished "Merry Christmas" more today than any other in the past couple of weeks, I just had to relay that.

It helps quench my hatred for what's being done to the country I love, for a while at least.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 06:41 PM (LUgeY)

269 He had sex with stoned and drunken women. He gave women drugs and booze to get laid. And...?

I suppose the novel concept that he was like the one Hollywood guy that *wouldn't* do that.

Because he was Cliff Huxtable.

I don't know. It's a pile of scum from top to bottom so who even fucking cares?

Posted by: eleven at December 18, 2015 06:41 PM (qUNWi)

270 Close GITMO. By executing all inside who are unlawful enemy combatants

Posted by: ThunderB at December 18, 2015 06:41 PM (zOTsN)

271 Yes. And many leftist groups, including the Weathermen, also have coerced members (particularly hetero males) into homosexual acts. The idea, as I understand it, is that a breakdown in sexual reticence is an effective mechanism to break down ALL moral reticence.

Remember that stuff about the "personal is political?" The True Believer can have no private space apart from the Party.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 18, 2015 06:29 PM (T/5A0)

============
That's what they said. But in hind sight many years later, I wonder if it was all about the gay/bi members just wanting to get fked.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 18, 2015 06:41 PM (iQIUe)

272 Hey, where is Carlos Danger these days?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 18, 2015 06:41 PM (T/5A0)

273 The Root of the Problem
is not hard to find.

The Left has always worked to abolish morality, religion, and family. Women are to be shared equally among the proletarian men.

Feminists are supposed to fight against the old, white, rich, powerful men (the
bourgeoisie). And they shall make themselves freely sexually available
to men 'of the Resistance'.

Or did you think that Leftism and sexual promiscuity just happened to go together by chance?

The evidence is all here in black and white...

From the Communist Manifesto (184 Marx-Engels:

"Law, morality, religion, are to him [the proletariat] so many bourgeois prejudices, behind which lurk in ambush just as many bourgeois interests."

"Communism .. abolishes all religion and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience."

"The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when
its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the
vanishing of capital."

"But you Communists would introduce community of women, screams the whole bourgeoisie in chorus... The Communists have no need to introduce community of women; it has existed almost from time immemorial... Our bourgeois, not content with having the wives and daughters of their proletarians at their disposal, not to speak of common prostitutes, take the greatest pleasure in seducing each other's wives. Bourgeois marriage is in reality a system of wives in common, and thus, at the most, what the Communists might possibly be reproached with, is that they desire to introduce, in substitution for a hypocritically concealed, an openly legalized community of women. "
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So what did this guy do wrong?



Posted by: DemocracyRules at December 18, 2015 06:51 PM (qP+5I)

274 It's zombie Jacob Marley, A Christmas Carol with Patrick Stewart on TNT

Posted by: Skip at December 18, 2015 08:13 PM (k0xxN)

275 It's almost as if psychopaths have figured out that they can get under people's defenses by pretending to be into causes. Who knew?

Posted by: bruce at December 18, 2015 09:37 PM (iuA0t)

276 "Reproductive rights." That's rich.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 18, 2015 11:49 PM (laMCB)

277 NOT sorry for women who actively seek employment in progressive organizations... I. DON'T. CARE.

Posted by: emdfl at December 19, 2015 09:07 AM (V40IZ)

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