Not Sure That's Gonna Happen, Fellers


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1 frist~!

Posted by: Aunt Ralph at December 10, 2015 04:31 PM (6VG2o)

2 AKA "The Rubio Ploy"

Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:31 PM (74ZYB)

3 Eh. No they're not.

Posted by: Mr. Estrada at December 10, 2015 04:32 PM (Qya/x)

4 Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 04:32 PM (evdj2)

5 Also, polls are still not predictive. Don't panic till Trump actually wins a vote somewhere.

Right now, Cruz looks like the most likely winner.

Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:32 PM (74ZYB)

6 Broker this! Rinse.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 10, 2015 04:32 PM (c/3OG)

7 They cannot wait to screw the country and their former case!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 10, 2015 04:33 PM (ftVQq)

8 Base,!!!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (ftVQq)

9 The establishment hates Cruz almost as much as they hate Trump.

Posted by: steevy at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (8HTq1)

10 If Cruz and Trump connect, they have more than 50 percent.....game over.

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (uJK1E)

11 I am the true king of all media! Stern sucks!

Posted by: TRUMP! at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (msPO3)

12 Oh-kaay.

But this is the last straw.

/Milton

Posted by: Bigby's High Five at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (3ZtZW)

13 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (M1uf/)

14 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (M1uf/)

15 Brokered convention with those two losers? Priebus & McConnell? They're RINOs & liars.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (sj3Ax)

16 National GOP leaders now preparing for a brokered convention, per multiple sources. 20+ huddled Monday w/ Priebus and McConnell

Buster Prebius has a new bong, so him I understand. But why Yertle? He never beings anything and he mooches of everybody.

Posted by: Zombie Alexander Hamilton at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (TxJGV)

17 Actually, it is pretty darned likely, Ace.

About half of all delegates are assigned by winner-take-all states. The other half proportionally.

It would take a miracle for Trump to win ALL of the winner-take-all states.

The longer the pack stays big and spreads votes around, the more likely to be no clear winner.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (so+oy)

18 They don't need a broker....they need a undertaker.....this is the end of the GOP

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (uJK1E)

19 Don't know if this is their way of pretending to themselves that Trump isn't going to take an overwhelming # of the delegates or if it's their way of pretending to others that there's some feasible way for them to fight Trump.

Whateves either way.

Posted by: Mr. Estrada at December 10, 2015 04:35 PM (Qya/x)

20 If they could they would make the primaries like their joke of a Speaker of the House election and postpone it until they could guarantee that one of their stooges would win.

Posted by: buzzion at December 10, 2015 04:35 PM (z/Ubi)

21 BTW, if it goes to convention because of Trump, don't be surprised if it backfires and results in Cruz, not Rubio, being the nominee, as Trump's final thumb in the eye of the Establishment.

Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:35 PM (74ZYB)

22 Dear Santa,

I've been a good boy this year.

Well, good-ish.

Ok, so I haven't been as big of a shit as I could have been. Isn't that enough.

Please make this happen.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2015 04:35 PM (OiH3z)

23
So Heckler and Koch runs RNCtown.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2015 04:35 PM (gwpf+)

24 How many time would you throw up in a row if they brought Mittens out at the convention.

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 10, 2015 04:35 PM (uJK1E)

25 Oh! Pleasepleasepleaseplease!

Please let Trump win a majority and then the DOPe force a brokered convention. Bonus points if they then nominate Yeb or Rubio.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 04:35 PM (M1uf/)

26 What does that mean?

Would it be GOP leadership ignoring the primary voters and selecting their candidate of choice?

Posted by: Steve Kroft at December 10, 2015 04:35 PM (NOIQH)

27 Trump must be stopped! ~ The DNC/GOPe Nexus

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 10, 2015 04:35 PM (BoOnm)

28 I'll just put my laziness and ignorance on display now. What exactly is a brokered convention?

Posted by: L, Elle who would like Soothsayer unbanned. Please? at December 10, 2015 04:35 PM (2x3L+)

29 Trump/Cruz will be a good ticket.

Posted by: IC at December 10, 2015 04:36 PM (a0IVu)

30 The base is not worthy of their GOP DC Cartel Establishment leadership,

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 10, 2015 04:36 PM (ftVQq)

31 Trump is clearly the most existentially harrowing threat these people have ever seen or could ever imagine -- beyond Communism, Islamism, Leftism, Ebola, the asteroid of death and nuclear war. The question is, how utterly will they embarrass even debase themselves in trying to destroy him.

Posted by: rrpjr at December 10, 2015 04:36 PM (s/yC1)

32 Mitch McConnell? You mean THE Mitch McConnell?

Trump has a puddle of urine down around his classy and luxurious shoes.

Posted by: Furious George at December 10, 2015 04:36 PM (3GAnN)

33 Interestingly I find myself not really giving a crap either way about this.
No matter what happens, the media will trash the whole event in their desperate attempt to be relevant.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 10, 2015 04:36 PM (r65B3)

34 The GOPe is dying, this would kill it.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (sj3Ax)

35 National GOP leaders now preparing for a brokered convention, per multiple sources. 20+ huddled Monday w/ Priebus and McConnell

Trying to figure out if it's OK to nominate Hillary?

Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (TxJGV)

36 I'll just put my laziness and ignorance on display now. What exactly is a brokered convention?


If no candidate has a majority of the delegates on the first vote, the horsetrading begins.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (evdj2)

37 When and where is this convention being held? Trump Towers?

Posted by: dantesed at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (88xKn)

38 20+ huddled Monday w/ Priebus and McConnell


22 dudes sucking each other off is what that is.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (ODxAs)

39 In order of likelihood:

1) Cruz outright
2) Rubio outright
3) Rubio brokered
4) Cruz brokered
5) Trump somehow

Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (74ZYB)

40 18 Actually, it is pretty darned likely, Ace.

About half of all delegates are assigned by winner-take-all states. The other half proportionally.

It would take a miracle for Trump to win ALL of the winner-take-all states.

The longer the pack stays big and spreads votes around, the more likely to be no clear winner.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (so+oy)



If Jeb Bush was sitting at 20% consistently would they be talking about the possibility at all?

Posted by: buzzion at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (z/Ubi)

41 Without a single caucus, primary, or vote -- this outcome has been determined.

The Age of Stupid abides.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (659DL)

42 Hope Trump sticks their written 'contract' up their collective asses.

Posted by: Mortimer at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (hudka)

43 I wouldn't have thought they so fucking retarded as to slit their own throats

Posted by: KenH at December 10, 2015 04:36 PM (67f1X)

Oh yeah. They're completely insane with corrupted power. Advanced stages of political syphilis.

Posted by: rrpjr at December 10, 2015 04:38 PM (s/yC1)

44 We won't really know anything until after Super Tuesday.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 04:38 PM (evdj2)

45 @33 Get ready to see the voters tell an entire political party
"YOU'RE FIRED!!"

- - - - - -
Absolutely!!! Can't wait to see "The Cobra" strike.
That's what we called his hand when he'd utter the "You're Fired" words. His hand would strike out. Awesome!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 10, 2015 04:38 PM (r65B3)

46 -
20+ huddled Monday w/ Priebus and McConnell
---------------

My evil violent fantasy is that they are "huddled" in a tiled room, and I'm at the door with a Callaway driver and a bucket of Titleists.

Posted by: irright at December 10, 2015 04:38 PM (zxnPQ)

47 According to wiki (in know) the last RINO brokered convention was 1948 with Dewey.

The beltway is so out of touch with reality.

Posted by: Infidel at December 10, 2015 04:38 PM (7tCdZ)

48 Seriously, this makes my day. I'm freaking giddy. For those of us on Team Burn it Down, this would be perfect.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 04:38 PM (M1uf/)

49 Si se puede!

Posted by: El Heb at December 10, 2015 04:39 PM (hudka)

50 The GOP is trying to sabotage the front runner. This could be a bigger conflagration than the Hindenburg.

Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 10, 2015 04:39 PM (G2zf3)

51 The Whig Party just emailed to say You go girls!

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 04:39 PM (evdj2)

52 Guy Mohawk,
Brilliant observation & you cracked me up!

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 04:39 PM (sj3Ax)

53 Oh, and in 2012 I believe the guy leading the polls at this point was...

Newt Gingrich.

Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:39 PM (74ZYB)

54 Penis and the Turtle are huddling. An ugly thought picture, that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 10, 2015 04:39 PM (8ZskC)

55 Not sure that's gonna happen, and pretty sure it wouldn't be a smart idea if it were going to happen. Unless what you really wanted to do was telegraph a message to everyone in both parties that the GOP leadership doesn't give half a crap about the will of the people voting, and is willing to select a candidate through logrolling and fiat.

I mean, I'm pretty sure that the leadership DOESN'T give a crap, but would it be super smart to come out and admit it to the whole world?

Posted by: Qoheleth at December 10, 2015 04:39 PM (iIzG7)

56 Usually things are pre-determined a million years before the convention, so I would be pretty shocked if anything like this happened.

Posted by: Lea at December 10, 2015 04:40 PM (lIU4e)

57 28 I'll just put my laziness and ignorance on display now. What exactly is a brokered convention?

If the primaries don't result in a nominee, the convention has a set of rules for a series of votes for deciding the impasse. If that doesn't work the delegates are free to vote anyway they wish, and the Chamber of Commerce pays everyone off, and Jeb emerges as a "reluctant nominee".

Or something like that.

Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 04:40 PM (TxJGV)

58 In before the scorpion.

Posted by: Trump at December 10, 2015 04:40 PM (3dOE/)

59 Ok math students....if 22 huddled GOP'ers went on a suicide mission, how many virgins would you need????

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 10, 2015 04:40 PM (uJK1E)

60 And the GOP Convention is scheduled for *after* the deadlines for filing for a 3d party run in many states.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 10, 2015 04:40 PM (NOIQH)

61 >>>>If no candidate has a majority of the delegates on the first vote, the horsetrading begins.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10,
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Thank you, grump. Does that mean that a candidate can win a primary in a state, but delegates can withhold their votes if it's not a candidate to their liking?

Posted by: L, Elle who would like Soothsayer unbanned. Please? at December 10, 2015 04:41 PM (2x3L+)

62 Fucking Romney.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 04:41 PM (evdj2)

63 L, Elle - No one candidate gets a majority of delegates.

So, then they gotta deal.. Cruz buys off Carson, let's say and he gives his deletes to Cruz.. or, it just goes for a free for all cuz after the first ballot the delegates are not bound to their candidate.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 10, 2015 04:41 PM (so+oy)

64
The more they do this stuff, the more people vote for Trump. I would actually consider it just to kill the R party. But not voting anyway.

The gop estabs don't understand that people hate traitors and back-stabbers more than the enemy. OTOH, I thing the gop estabs want hillary anyway.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2015 04:41 PM (ODxAs)

65 Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:39 PM (74ZYB)

Not for nearly as long as Trump has, and not with the same... verve (for lack of a better term).

I'm sorry, but Trump is looking much more like Bush in 2000, McCain in 2008, and Romney in 2012 - with the exception that he's actively in the lead which Romney wasn't (and I don't remember about McCain).

This is Trump's to lose, and he has this horrifying advantage that everyone expects him to be a bloviating gasbag.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 04:41 PM (M1uf/)

66 When the Party finds itself in trouble
Rancid Prius comes to the Reb

Speaking words of wisdom, come to Jeb!
And in its hour of darkness

He is standing right in front of them

Speaking words of wisdom, Ven a Jeb!Come to Jeb!, come to Jeb!

Come to Jeb!, come to Jeb!

Whisper words of wisdom

Come to Jeb!

Posted by: Jeb! at December 10, 2015 04:41 PM (nSW/N)

67 Does that mean that a candidate can win a primary in a state, but delegates can withhold their votes if it's not a candidate to their liking?


I think they are all committed on the first ballot, unless their candidate has officially dropped out.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 04:41 PM (evdj2)

68 I'm pretty sure they will trot out Romney, who, at this point,, sounds a helluva better than Shrillary.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 10, 2015 04:42 PM (so+oy)

69 *Waves arms*

I am available for bribing!

Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 04:42 PM (TxJGV)

70 McConnell is so upset his dewlap has been bright blue for days now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 10, 2015 04:42 PM (8ZskC)

71 In order of likelihood:



1) Cruz outright

2) Rubio outright

3) Rubio brokered

4) Cruz brokered

5) Trump somehow





Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM


That's some major-league wishcasting right there. The GOPe wants Heb!, no ifs, ands or buts.

Cruz doesn't have a chance. His sole strength -- Identity Politics -- isn't enough to help him with people he has already pissed off..

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 10, 2015 04:42 PM (ykopX)

72 The thing is, it's not a secret ballot, so the delegates have to go back home with everyone knowing how they voted.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 04:42 PM (evdj2)

73 OTOH, I thing the gop estabs want hillary anyway.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2015 04:41 PM (ODxAs)

Over Trump? No question.

Posted by: rrpjr at December 10, 2015 04:43 PM (s/yC1)

74 From WashPo:

This emerging consensus at the highest levels of the Republican Party
about how the 2016 race could unfold comes after a fresh wave of polls
showing Trump leading in early voting states and nationally, even as he
continues to unleash incendiary comments such as his proposal to block
Muslims from entering the United States.


Fox Butterfield write this?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 10, 2015 04:43 PM (NOIQH)

75 The Whig Party just emailed to say You go girls!

Nominated for thread winner.

Posted by: Infidel at December 10, 2015 04:43 PM (7tCdZ)

76 Posted by: Lizzy at December 10, 2015 04:40 PM (NOIQH)

Who says the GOP can't plan for the future!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 10, 2015 04:43 PM (ftVQq)

77 Anything to thwart the supposedly fair (ok, less unfair) mechanisms of the election process. Afterall, they know better. We chose wrongly, they know. Listen to your betters. Where would we be without them? We're such ingrates.

/spit

Posted by: shillelagh at December 10, 2015 04:43 PM (L3vVL)

78 Does that mean that a candidate can win a primary in a state, but delegates can withhold their votes if it's not a candidate to their liking?

I *think* they're required to vote based on the primary results from their state on the first vote. After that, they can vote their conscience pocket-book.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 04:43 PM (M1uf/)

79 It'll never happen.

Posted by: GOP Big Money Donors at December 10, 2015 04:43 PM (xwPSp)

80 One thing is now clear: there is no path to the nom. for any GOPe stooge. Its Trump, or maybe Cruz. The others are failing big time.

All the GOPe can do now is ride along and hope for some crums from Trump/Cruz, or burn their own party to the ground and formally join the Dems. And as to that I say: let me know if you need more matches.

Posted by: Karl Toad, GOPe Genius at December 10, 2015 04:43 PM (yvwr7)

81 Well, the primaries seem to take a very negative, self-destructive course for our party. If we really get into such a mess, it might be wise for the delegates to take a fresh new look at the possibilities at hand and consider somebody outside the current pool of candidates.

Somebody who wasnt damaged by the rancorous 2016 primary battles, but knows the process, has mastered it once and is experienced enough to be a serious candidate. I think its worth considering.

Posted by: Begonia at December 10, 2015 04:44 PM (L2asq)

82 MrKnowItAll,
No virgins!

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 04:44 PM (sj3Ax)

83 Mr Limbaugh has never been moe eloquent on the plight of the American people and why we are so angry, scared and worried about our futures and the future of the country we love as he was today. During the last hour he laid out in masterful fashion everything the GOP needs to understand about the mood of the electorate. Will the GOP pay attention? Of course not.

Posted by: Tuna at December 10, 2015 04:44 PM (Cszmt)

84 GOP: "We'll stop Trump with a brokered convention."
Strategist: "Sir..."
Strategist 2: "Sir, Trump has too many delegates, the brokered convention isn't coming."

"Everyone who called Trump a flash-in-the-pan assclown leave, except for Rove, Murphy, and the fat ugly chick whose name I can never remember."


*begin epic rant*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Outrage Outlet Plan and Cater Your Holiday Atrocity! at December 10, 2015 04:44 PM (hLRSq)

85 Yeah, the wife and I 'huddle' every-time I purchase a lottery ticket. We spend hours dividing the spoils. Only to discover, much to our dismay, that the clerk sold us a losing ticket.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 10, 2015 04:44 PM (7v/r5)

86 Cruz was the best student I ever had and is the best debater I've ever seen. Never knew Barry Soetoro.

Posted by: Professor Dershowitz at December 10, 2015 04:45 PM (msPO3)

87 How can they possibly trot out Romney in brokered convention? Doesn't it have to be someone that went through the primaries?

Posted by: IC at December 10, 2015 04:45 PM (a0IVu)

88 >>>I'm pretty sure they will trot out Romney, who, at this point,, sounds a helluva better than Shrillary.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 10, 2015 04:42 PM (so+oy)<<<

Well, he wouldn't be passed out drunk for the 3AM phone call... but still... NO!

Posted by: No Mo' Rinos at December 10, 2015 04:45 PM (H9MG5)

89 When Trump talks about not going independent as long as the GOP treats him fairly, he is not talking about well funded attack ads or whether or not Jeb Bush says mean things about him. He is talking about the process. If the GOP rigs the game by keeping him off ballots or by disqualifying his delegates or other shenanigans of that kind, he will go independent.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 10, 2015 04:45 PM (IN7k+)

90 Okay, sorry, a little slow today because not enough sleep last night bc insomnia.

Do we want a brokered convention or not? It sounds like alotta drama that might be fun to watch while everything goes to shit.

Posted by: L, Elle who would like Soothsayer unbanned. Please? at December 10, 2015 04:45 PM (2x3L+)

91 kind of reminds me of that Morgan Freeman part in Batman....**edited**

"So....your going up against a very successful businessman and negotiator.....and your plan is to try a brokered convention??? ***good luck with that***

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 10, 2015 04:45 PM (uJK1E)

92 [Hey Ace,

Welcome to the Revolution.

Can someone please edit this (http://tinyurl.com/nqm64rg) so Trump is Tommy Lee Jones/Strannix, the CIA guy is Reince Priebus, Admiral Bates is... hmm...

Change "wait for you in Miami" to "Cleveland"

Any other ideas?

Posted by: Uriah Heep at December 10, 2015 04:45 PM (ZMZ2g)

93 Or something like that.

Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 04:40 PM (TxJGV)

And I don't even get a reach-around?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2015 04:46 PM (Zu3d9)

94 Pssst. Don't tell anyone but I like this idea.

Posted by: Marco after two beers at December 10, 2015 04:46 PM (HgMAr)

95 I'll just put my laziness and ignorance on display now. What exactly is a brokered convention?



Sleazy backroom deals and horse trading.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2015 04:46 PM (b2Qci)

96
Is she really going out with him? - Joe Jackson - Live 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK5c4O-pKec

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 10, 2015 04:46 PM (kdS6q)

97 Maybe the author of The Art of the Deal should have insisted that as a condition of his signing a loyalty oath the GOPe had to reciprocate by signing an oath that they'd support him if he wins.

Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at December 10, 2015 04:46 PM (1hyw5)

98 Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 04:42 PM (evdj2)

We'll have that fixed by convention time!

Posted by: Rinse Penis at December 10, 2015 04:46 PM (ftVQq)

99 Do they provide entertainment at these conventions? Because I'd like to see Jeb Bush do a solo performance of Don Quixote in the original Spanish.

Posted by: Fritz at December 10, 2015 04:46 PM (3tjn4)

100 "What exactly is a brokered convention?"

The end of the GOP.

Posted by: rrpjr at December 10, 2015 04:47 PM (s/yC1)

101 Whose more popular.....more trusted to run the country the Repunks or #Trump???
Do it douch bags i double dog dares ya....trump will shove that loyalty pledge up your asses....
and many of us will join him in pounding the final nails in the Repunk Party coffin....He will have no trouble with the Criminal Clinton.
Pick Yeb....the guy whose so popular he can't say his last name because his brutha was such a genius war fighter.

Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at December 10, 2015 04:47 PM (vXqv3)

102 >>Sleazy backroom deals and horse trading.

Aka politics.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2015 04:47 PM (/tuJf)

103 I wonder what the numbers look like that they're seeing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 04:48 PM (4ErVI)

104 Breaking: National GOP leaders now preparing for a brokered convention, per multiple sources. 20+ huddled Monday w/ Priebus and McConnell

- Robert Costa (@costareports) December 10, 2015


But, first, you will blow me.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 10, 2015 04:48 PM (zc3Db)

105 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 04:41 PM (M1uf/)

Those guys were all actual, credible politicians. Trump is an entertainer and, well, Donald Trump. People expecting him to be an idiot is only a plus in terms of getting media coverage.

Unless he actually wins Iowa or NH, his campaign could easily dissolve as actual GOP voters show up. A lot of his support is just people saying "f u" to the pollsters and media.

Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:48 PM (74ZYB)

106 The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.

Posted by: Dean Mitch Wormer McConnell at December 10, 2015 04:48 PM (8ZskC)

107 There is no bigger supporter of Trump than me, but he is simply not going to be allowed to become President.

He's far too disruptive to the natural order.

He will be stopped.

He will have a sic semper tyranus moment and that may be enough of a match to light it off.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 10, 2015 04:48 PM (WVvzl)

108 Anyone else get the feeling these things (primaries) have never been for much else than show?

Posted by: Circe O'Valle at December 10, 2015 04:49 PM (x8h7P)

109 Rubio is a snake. And look at his hairline in recent pics - he's done a Joe Biden!

"Plugs" Rubio.

Pass it on....

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at December 10, 2015 04:49 PM (b/PFG)

110 Also,

Activate FLAMING SKULL!!

Posted by: Circe O'Valle at December 10, 2015 04:49 PM (x8h7P)

111 Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2015 04:46 PM (b2Qci)


You forgot

3. Profit!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 10, 2015 04:50 PM (ftVQq)

112 Broker broker, good buddy.

Posted by: Trumpy at December 10, 2015 04:50 PM (FkBIv)

113 Doesn't it have to be someone that went through the primaries?

Nope.

Posted by: no good deed at December 10, 2015 04:50 PM (GgxVX)

114
All the assholes who bitched about Trump running third party better start worrying that the GOP-e doesn't run Mitt/Ryan redux as 3rd party.

And they will.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 04:50 PM (uhkms)

115 Trump winning fair and square really bugs the losers of the GOPe.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at December 10, 2015 04:50 PM (vHFh+)

116 Unless he actually wins Iowa or NH, his campaign could easily dissolve as actual GOP voters show up. A lot of his support is just people saying "f u" to the pollsters and media.

Sorry, this is the same thing we were telling ourselves about Barky winning in '12. "Oh, wait until actual voters show up!" "Oh, the polls are wrong because 'X.'"

I don't buy it. My lying eyes tell me a lot of people - many of them Conservative - are ready and willing to vote Trump just to burn down the DOPe. Moreover, he seems to excite people who are not normally involved in politics at all.

Might he still lose? Yeah, it could happen. It's not looking terribly likely at this point, though.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 04:50 PM (M1uf/)

117 Huddling with Rinse and McConnell sounds like a gay porn flick. Were any children or small animals involved?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 04:50 PM (oDCMR)

118 Posted by: MrScribbler at December 10, 2015 04:42 PM (ykopX)

Jeb is at 3%, the Establishment has given up on him and is throwing in with their backup option, Rubio.

Cruz is a brilliant conservative ideologue who has argued before the SCOTUS nine times. He's like Reagan, but smarter. Never underestimate him.

Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:51 PM (74ZYB)

119 Ah brokered conventions are a thing of the past along with smoke filled rooms and sodomy...ok maybe not the sodomy part, but the other parts yes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 04:51 PM (DUoqb)

120 Begonia is Average Joe - volunteer fellatrix.

Posted by: DaveA at December 10, 2015 04:51 PM (DL2i+)

121 One of the reasons I came around to Trump is not because I wanted him to win but because when I thought about how I would feel if something were to happen to him.

At that point, I realized my heart knew something my head did not.

Posted by: Circe O'Valle at December 10, 2015 04:51 PM (x8h7P)

122 @113 Nope? Well, that sucks for the voters. Talk about giving them a big FU, thanks for your support for your candidate but we will decide who you should get.

Posted by: IC at December 10, 2015 04:51 PM (a0IVu)

123
If they pull something at the convention, it really will be the death of that party.

I almost fucking dare them to do this.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 04:51 PM (uhkms)

124 Right now Cruz plus Trump is greater than 51%.
Carson dropping.
Rubio dropping.
The bottom still dragging along the bottom.

Trump plus Cruz hold the keys. But the fat lady
hasn't come out to sing yet.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 10, 2015 04:51 PM (7v/r5)

125
Fun Fact: Under current GOPe convention rules, a candidate must have won at least 8 state contests before their name can be submitted to the convention for a final vote.

As it looks now, Trump cruises to at least 8, but Cruz, Rubio and TBD? Just not enough races left for more than one or mayyyybe two of them to get on the ballot with the Donald.

And you can't broker a two man race.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 10, 2015 04:52 PM (kdS6q)

126 What's going on? I just woke up.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 10, 2015 04:52 PM (msPO3)

127 We plan to lose! God Damn it!!! Come hell or high water. It's what we do.

Posted by: GOPe at December 10, 2015 04:52 PM (vHFh+)

128 How would anyone "force" a brokered convention, as several of you are suggesting?

Wouldn't this happen as a natural result the delegates ending up split 40% Trump, 30% Cruz, 25% Rubio, and 5% other?

Posted by: Pastafarian at December 10, 2015 04:52 PM (LqrRo)

129 117 Huddling with Rinse and McConnell sounds like a gay porn flick. Were any children or small animals involved?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 04:50 PM (oDCMR)



Can we send them to Rotherhithe for grooming?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 04:52 PM (uhkms)

130 Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at December 10, 2015 04:46 PM (1hyw5)

Didn't need to he's got the third party Trump card....Tear your party apart....nominate some stooge that will get 10% in a three way.....and kiss your asses goodbye....might just be the best possible outcome to this whole crooked mess.

Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at December 10, 2015 04:52 PM (vXqv3)

131 There hasn't been a vote cast. This is ridiculous rumor mongering.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 04:52 PM (iRZl4)

132 Do we want a brokered convention or not?

Only if the hair weasel actually attacks lesser mustelids.

Posted by: DaveA at December 10, 2015 04:53 PM (DL2i+)

133 The day Yeb throws in the towel will be a glorious one.


Might even break out the corn likker and get a whore.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 04:53 PM (4ErVI)

134 It may be that I haven't been paying attention, but sure is good to see this posted again.

14 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (M1uf/)

Preach on brother. Preach on.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at December 10, 2015 04:53 PM (jxbfJ)

135 128 How would anyone "force" a brokered convention, as several of you are suggesting?

Wouldn't this happen as a natural result the delegates ending up split 40% Trump, 30% Cruz, 25% Rubio, and 5% other?
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 10, 2015 04:52 PM (LqrRo)


A private club like the GOP-e can do whatever the fuck it wants whenever it wants. They will change and throw out rules and make shit up right up to the last minute. And if the lose, they'll support Hilary.

I would bet on it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 04:53 PM (uhkms)

136
Rubio is a snake. And look at his hairline in recent pics - he's done a Joe Biden!

"Plugs" Rubio.

Pass it on....
Posted by: ChicagoRefugee
......................

Plus his ears are bigger than Barry's. They just lay flatter.
I think he taped them back for a few years.

Posted by: wth at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (HgMAr)

137 He will have a sic semper tyranus moment and that may be enough of a match to light it off.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 10, 2015 04:48 PM


I honestly doubt that. Unless, of course, one is manufactured for him by the GOPe or MFM, which is a possibility.

Remember that for every Political Insider who loathes Trump, who finds him boorish or Not One Of Us, there are a bunch of plain old ordinary Americans who are liking him because he expresses their feelings.

My guess is that he knows how far to push the envelope, and won't go over the edge unless he's pushed. And that may not even be possible.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (ykopX)

138 No rumors were mongered in the making of this post.

Posted by: The AoSHQ General Inspector's Office at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (8ZskC)

139 I want Cruz but if it only came with a Trump I'm ok with that.

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (k0xxN)

140 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale

Polls in mid-December are not very predictive in any Presidential election. The debacle in Britain, where they missed so badly to the left they could not explain how it happened, has a lot of pollsters worried.

I heard the same "excitement" about Sarah Palin.

Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (74ZYB)

141 >>>> Right now Cruz plus Trump is greater than 51%.
-------
Trump could lock it up if he got Cruz on board as VP and announced it.

Posted by: L, Elle who would like Soothsayer unbanned. Please? at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (2x3L+)

142 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 04:50 PM (M1uf/)

My only question is whether the excitement of Trump's anti-establishment message will drive these people to the voting booth.

Are they sufficiently committed to the electoral process, or are they exactly the kind of people who do not vote?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (Zu3d9)

143 >>I don't buy it. My lying eyes tell me a lot of people - many of them Conservative - are ready and willing to vote Trump just to burn down the DOPe. Moreover, he seems to excite people who are not normally involved in politics at all.

How does voting for Trump over someone like Cruz who actually appears to be a conservative advance conservative principles? Cause that makes zero sense to me.

Cruz is a very viable candidate who I think is going to take Iowa and is well positioned to take the southern primaries. Voting for Trump if you are a conservative seems like wasted vote.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (/tuJf)

144 I have no problem with this.

And by no problem I mean I'm chortling with glee.

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (mf5HN)

145 I'm pretty sure they will trot out Romney, who, at this point,, sounds a helluva better than Shrillary.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 10, 2015 04:42 PM (so+oy)
____

I agree, but thats quite a low bar. I think that Governor Romney would have a lot more to offer. How many of his warnings from 2012 became reality in these last years? Today people know that Governor Romney is a highly qualified man with impeccable judgement. America would get the chance to undo a big mistake.

Posted by: Begonia at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (L2asq)

146 This just in....SJW's have played the last race card in the deck.....ironically it was the 2 of spades....

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 10, 2015 04:55 PM (uJK1E)

147 "106 The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me."

Ahem. I was the one who originally said that.

Posted by: Humphrey C. Cornholt, Principal of C. Estes Kefauver High School at December 10, 2015 04:55 PM (nSW/N)

148
More interesting scenario that I've been thinking about, is the GOPe running the convention pulls a Chicago and refuses to seat the Trump delegations, ala the White Southern Democratic delegations getting the shiv in 1968.

Because Trump racist Nazi or whatever.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 10, 2015 04:55 PM (kdS6q)

149 What this actually means is that the RNC will be tinkering with the primary process to ensure that Trump will not get a majority of votes.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 10, 2015 04:55 PM (LXJ1e)

150 The deomonrats have not chosen the rino candidate yet. When they do, priebus and mcconnell will find out who it is.

Posted by: Eromero at December 10, 2015 04:56 PM (b+df9)

151 Per Drudge-Jeff Sessions said Mitch & Ryan are going to force Syrian refugees in on U. S.!!!

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 04:56 PM (sj3Ax)

152 Poll: Without Trump And Carson In Race, Supporters Flock To Cruz

Weasel Zippers

I wish I called the Stock market as well as I do Politics I'd be a rich as moo shit thanks he is

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 04:56 PM (DUoqb)

153 "Sorry, this is the same thing we were telling ourselves about Barky winning in '12. "Oh, wait until actual voters show up!" "Oh, the polls are wrong because 'X.'"

The difference being, of course, that Barky did not have the media and his own party working against him.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 10, 2015 04:56 PM (u0lmX)

154 Per Drudge-Jeff Sessions said Mitch & Ryan are going to force Syrian refugees in on U. S.!!!
Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 04:56 PM (sj3Ax)


Not surprised are you?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 04:56 PM (DUoqb)

155 With the GOP convention in chaos, delegates hurling chairs and insults at one another, and the party leadership huddled in the 20th floor hospitality suite we turn to our reporter Bob Hairpiece on the floor. Bob?

Jim, this is completely out of control, the JEBusites are engaged in close order combat with the Trumpians while the Rubioes are storming the stage. Cruzers are trying to hold a barricade of lecterns and - hold on - we have word from the hospitality suite. Jan, what is going on in there?

*hic* Bob, Jimmsh, thish is Jan and it is a helluva party! Leadership ish getting smashed on top shelf hooch and they ashked me to join them.

Um, Jan - Jim - where's your top?

They're drinking vodka outta my bra! I haven't had thish much fun sinsh the lsht Chris, Chris Holi - you know office party in winter.
*thud*

Alright - back to the floor. Bob?

Ahhhhhhh Jesus help me! They lit my toupee on fire! Ahhhhh! It's still on my head!

***********************

And that my friends, is a brokered convention.
Peace out.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Outrage Outlet Plan and Cater Your Holiday Atrocity! at December 10, 2015 04:57 PM (hLRSq)

156 145 I agree, but thats quite a low bar. I think that Governor Romney would have a lot more to offer. How many of his warnings from 2012 became reality in these last years? Today people know that Governor Romney is a highly qualified man with impeccable judgement. America would get the chance to undo a big mistake.
Posted by: Begonia at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (L2asq)


He warned us about Obamacare. Oh, wait a minute, he invented it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 04:57 PM (uhkms)

157 >>There hasn't been a vote cast. This is ridiculous rumor mongering.

This is FEAR.

That the GOP is discussing it shows that they are starting to see just how pissed off people are (in their support for Trump) --- and yet, they're arrogant enough to think they can override it and these same people will vote for whomever they've replaced Trump with.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 10, 2015 04:57 PM (NOIQH)

158 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 04:53 PM (4ErVI)

What's your number?

Posted by: Zombie Helen Thomas at December 10, 2015 04:57 PM (Zu3d9)

159 "106 The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me."

Ahem. I was the one who originally said that.

Posted by: Humphrey C. Cornholt, Principal of C. Estes Kefauver High School at December 10, 2015 04:55 PM (nSW/N)


Only a pussy would need the whole foot.

Posted by: Sgt. Hulka at December 10, 2015 04:57 PM (zc3Db)

160 http://tinyurl.com/pa2ayxl

Here's link from CR with Jeff Sessions epic speech.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 04:57 PM (sj3Ax)

161 https://youtu.be/A_sY2rjxq6M

Posted by: The Trammps speakin' truth GOPe at December 10, 2015 04:57 PM (0O2Lr)

162 And if the lose, they'll support Hilary.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 04:53 PM


Two good things could come of that, JJ: First, Trump would beat Shrillery like a rented mule if the GOPe backed her, and second, it would join the Passenger Pigeon on the no-longer-around list.

Win-win!

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 10, 2015 04:57 PM (ykopX)

163 46.33% of the committed delegates to the conventuion will have been allocated when you wake up the morning of March 9th. 1,087 of the 2,346.

I think the Republican "Superdelegates" only number about 165.

Just noting.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 04:57 PM (evdj2)

164 "No rumors were mongered in the making of this post."

But more importantly, were any mongers rumored?

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at December 10, 2015 04:58 PM (vHFh+)

165
I saw Lesser Mustelids open for Little Feat at the Cow Palace back in '83.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2015 04:58 PM (gwpf+)

166 And this is why all the bottom dwellers that are in single digits aren't getting out any time soon. Individually none of them have much pull, but together they comprise anywhere from 10-12% in the RCP average, which is enough to push an establishment candidate over the top. In fact, I would speculate that while the anti-Trump rhetoric is aimed mainly at voters, the potential delegates to the convention are the secondary (perhaps actual?) targets.

If Trump wins the plurality of the delegates but not the nomination, and the party decides somehow to nominate El Heb, I could see El Heb actually finishing 3rd in the general election.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at December 10, 2015 04:58 PM (/GuZj)

167 Trump could lock it up if he got Cruz on board as VP and announced it.


Ideology wise they're the best 'fit'. Trump the better negotiator -- he knows where a good starting position should be -- only slightly less than outlandish. Cruz the better lawyer and political insider.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 10, 2015 04:59 PM (7v/r5)

168 The mayor of Philadelphia Michael Nutter is blaming Trump's policy proposal on banning Muzzies on a incident of a pig head being tossed at the front of a mosque.

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 04:59 PM (k0xxN)

169 I'm warming up to the idea of a Trump third party run. I can see him winning a three way race something like Trump 42%, Hillary 40%, GOPe candidate 18%.

Posted by: cool breeze at December 10, 2015 04:59 PM (6Cu7i)

170 The difference being, of course, that Barky did not have the media and his own party working against him.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 10, 2015 04:56 PM (u0lmX)


... and he had the leadership of the other party, sitting cabinet members, and his rival candidate working with him.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 10, 2015 04:59 PM (zc3Db)

171 And by no problem I mean I'm chortling with glee.


Some people just want to watch elf on a shelf devoured by raptors.

http://tinyurl.com/oyuqsqu

Posted by: DaveA at December 10, 2015 04:59 PM (DL2i+)

172 Lizzy,
You're right.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:00 PM (sj3Ax)

173 OK back to work.

Just remember kids, Trump's ceiling is low because he has the highest "would not vote for" of anyone on the GOP slate. He can get a plurality in a crowded field, but the Anyone But Trump voters will eventually coalesce around someone else.

Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 05:00 PM (74ZYB)

174 168 The mayor of Philadelphia Michael Nutter is blaming Trump's policy proposal on banning Muzzies on a incident of a pig head being tossed at the front of a mosque.
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 04:59 PM (k0xxN)


Find the guy what did it and give him a medal. Sorry, that's how I feel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:00 PM (uhkms)

175 My only question is whether the excitement of Trump's anti-establishment message will drive these people to the voting booth.

Won't know until the voting starts; that's true. But my gut tells me that they show up to vote.

How does voting for Trump over someone like Cruz who actually appears to be a conservative advance conservative principles?

By destroying the Republican party which has become actively antithetical to conservative principles. Cruz, as much as I like him, his a part of the party. He can't afford to tell the rest of the GOP to f*ck off. Trump pretty well specifically can.

And, yes, I'm admitting now that it would suck. Trump is not at all conservative on things that matter. He seems to think he's running for king, not for president. I have made my personal cost-benefit analysis, and I'm good with paying that cost to get the benefit of a destroyed Republican party so that Conservatives only have to run against 1 Liberal party.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 05:00 PM (M1uf/)

176
Polls in mid-December are not very predictive in any Presidential election.
Posted by: TallDave



FFS - we're just -- what --7 weeks from the first contest? The absentee ballots for New Hampshire should go out next week or so.

The polls now merit careful consideration as a timely indicator.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 10, 2015 05:00 PM (kdS6q)

177 anyone know what DIAHF and FOAD mean because people keep texting it to me?

Posted by: Rancid Priebus at December 10, 2015 05:00 PM (Trq86)

178
All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth...
ha ha just kidding, I got a whole set a while back.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 10, 2015 05:00 PM (HgMAr)

179 The men in the U.S. militarys most dangerous jobs care little about political correctness or gender equality. And they have a message for their political leadership.

When they are fighting in the shadows or bleeding on the battlefield, women have no place on their teams.

In blunt and, at times, profanity-laced answers to a voluntary survey conducted by the Rand Corp., more than 7,600 of Americas special operations forces spoke with nearly one voice. Allowing women to serve in Navy SEAL, Army Delta or other commando units could hurt their effectiveness and lower the standards, and it may drive men away from the dangerous posts.


MILITARYTIMES
Opening combat jobs to women creates new challenges for military

An overwhelming majority of those who agreed to respond to the RAND survey said they believe women dont have the physical strength or mental toughness to do the grueling jobs.

Of course

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:00 PM (DUoqb)

180 If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve.

Posted by: Gen. Sherman at December 10, 2015 05:01 PM (l3vZN)

181 In a three way race between GOPe Apparatchik v Trump v Clinton, I wouldn't be surprised that GOPe Apparatchik would finish third. That in itself would be a wake up call to GOPe. That is if you can wake a comatose patient, that is.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 05:01 PM (oDCMR)

182 >.The mayor of Philadelphia Michael Nutter is blaming Trump's policy
proposal on banning Muzzies on a incident of a pig head being tossed at
the front of a mosque.


Yeah, not a chance it was inspired by, say, the San Bernandino massacre by a couple of Muslims, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 10, 2015 05:01 PM (NOIQH)

183 177 anyone know what DIAHF and FOAD mean because people keep texting it to me?
Posted by: Rancid Priebus at December 10, 2015 05:00 PM (Trq86)


It's Arabic for "please pass the sweet and sour shrimp."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:01 PM (uhkms)

184 He warned us about Obamacare. Oh, wait a minute, he invented it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 04:57 PM (uhkms)
______

Obamacare wont be as important for this cycle as it was in 2012.

Posted by: Begonia at December 10, 2015 05:01 PM (L2asq)

185 ROTFL!!!

Posted by: Max Power at December 10, 2015 05:01 PM (q177U)

186 Bergdahl: I deserted my unit to save it.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j2mhcgd

Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 05:01 PM (zyIlW)

187 Based on the two sold out events in Massachusetts I believe Trump would win this state.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:02 PM (sj3Ax)

188 Why? Because fuck you proles and your votes, that's why!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 10, 2015 05:02 PM (3rK8j)

189 186 Bergdahl: I deserted my unit to save it.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j2mhcgd


Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 05:01 PM (zyIlW)



Wait, he fucked Nancy Pelosi???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:02 PM (uhkms)

190 >>>They don't need a broker....they need a undertaker.....this is the end of the GOP

Post of the day, perhaps?

Posted by: Max Power at December 10, 2015 05:03 PM (q177U)

191 This is really something.

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at December 10, 2015 05:03 PM (COpZ4)

192 Nutters speach about it made it sound like the crime of the year, thousands of dollars are up for leads and police are on the case

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 05:03 PM (k0xxN)

193 The mayor of Philadelphia Michael Nutter is blaming Trump's policy proposal on banning Muzzies on a incident of a pig head being tossed at the front of a mosque.


IF SOCIETY IS TO HAVE ANY HOPE OF SURVIVING THIS INDISCRIMINATE TOSSING OF PIG HEADS MUST CEASE!!!!

Posted by: Mayor Nutter at December 10, 2015 05:03 PM (8ZskC)

Posted by: Mayor Nutter at December 10, 2015 05:03 PM (8ZskC)

195 190 Trump needs to hint right now who he would have as his VP.
Posted by: Wood Shampoo at December 10, 2015 05:03 PM (XzRw1)


My money is on Cruz, considering their meeting last July and the lack of any attacks.

It would make heads totally explode and seal the election.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:04 PM (uhkms)

196
And this is why all the bottom dwellers that are in single digits aren't getting out any time soon. together they comprise anywhere from 10-12% in the RCP average, which is enough to push an establishment candidate over the top.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater



The convention isn't based on the popular vote but delegates, and -- depending on how each contest apportions delegates, !Jebs! 3% in East Carolina isn't going to give him jack.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 10, 2015 05:04 PM (kdS6q)

197 Somewhat related:

@adrian_gray 4h ago Monmouth changed methodology to add 30% non-primary voters to its sample. The effects: Trump +3, Cruz -1, Rubio -4 http://bit.ly/1QaPdim[*]

4h ago Iowa: Implied GOP turnout by sample methodology (000s):
CNN: 656
Qpac: 423
CBS: 882
Bloom: 302

2012 Actual: 122
2008 Actual: 119

[*] I shortened the link.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 10, 2015 05:04 PM (YjDyJ)

198 He can get a plurality in a crowded field, but the Anyone But Trump voters will eventually coalesce around someone else.

Just like Romney!!!




Oh. Wait.

Past performance is no guarantee of future returns, but it can be a pretty good indicator.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 10, 2015 05:04 PM (M1uf/)

199 Actually at this point the most frightening thing is not if Donald Trump wins but what if he loses?

Posted by: Kreplach at December 10, 2015 05:04 PM (WVvzl)

200
174 168 The mayor of Philadelphia Michael Nutter is blaming Trump's policy proposal on banning Muzzies on a incident of a pig head being tossed at the front of a mosque.
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 04:59 PM (k0xxN)


Find the guy what did it and give him a medal. Sorry, that's how I feel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:00 PM (uhkms)








Except that we all know damned well that it's one of the mohammedans at the mosque that did it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2015 05:05 PM (gwpf+)

201 How much you want to bet that the GOPe is looking at Laup Nor's strategy from a couple of cycles ago and getting Jeb! supporters set up as Trump delegates.....?

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 10, 2015 05:05 PM (16TRA)

202 Bergdahl: I deserted my unit to save it.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j2mhcgd


Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 05:01 PM (zyIlW)

Someone needs to do something about the guy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:05 PM (DUoqb)

203 Brokered Convention is almost guaranteed at this point. But doesn't matter because, thanks to this disaster, a President Hillary Clinton is now pretty much a sure thing, or as sure as it gets. Why Trump supporters don't see this is one of the Great Mysteries. They think that because they and their buddies support Trump, most people do. Who do they think voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012? Anyways, perhaps it is all a blessing disguise. Been spending way too much following and talking politics for the last 20 years. It would be a relief to check out and prepare for retirement.

Posted by: GOPette at December 10, 2015 05:05 PM (Y8P5w)

204 We could be ogling a stripper/pornstar candidate, but 'you people' wouldn't listen to me. Still, I'm OK with the clown show that appears to be shaping up.

Posted by: Weasel at December 10, 2015 05:05 PM (e3bId)

205 The Five, anti-Trump theater.



Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:05 PM (nkCeM)

206 CALLED IT!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2015 05:05 PM (9YDUz)

207 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at December 10, 2015 05:05 PM (GwIKd)

208 Brokered convention is certainly the last hope for the desperate. I spent the 2008 primary season on the Ron Paul bandwagon, and that's pretty much all anyone talked about. "We can still win if we get to a brokered convention"

I don't know what they hope to achieve. Lets say Trump gets the delegates and they steal it from him at the convention, I don't think I can see any scenario where the eventual nominee is elected president. For all the bluster about Trump handing the white house to the Clinton's if he's nominated, this strategy seems like an even bigger give away.

Even if they let Trump have it if he wins, the defections to the Democrats that I think we can all imagine from the establishment types would make it a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at December 10, 2015 05:06 PM (n/ogz)

209 Obamacare wont be as important for this cycle as it was in 2012.
Posted by: Begonia



Employer Mandate Fuseeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2015 05:06 PM (b2Qci)

210 Gutfeld has never be so obtuse.


Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:06 PM (nkCeM)

211 The mayor of Philadelphia Michael Nutter is blaming
Trump's policy proposal on banning Muzzies on a incident of a pig head
being tossed at the front of a mosque.

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 04:59 PM


I can see Poppin' Fresh writing the headline for Tepid Air now: Nutter Condemns Trump!

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 10, 2015 05:06 PM (ykopX)

212 *hic* Bob, Jimmsh, thish is Jan and it is a helluva party! Leadership ish getting smashed on top shelf hooch and they ashked me to join them.

I went to a convention once. This is pretty much how it went : )

(ie drinking all night, sleep till noon or 3ish, get up and start drinking again)

Posted by: Lea at December 10, 2015 05:06 PM (lIU4e)

213 Fox Butterfield write this?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 10, 2015 04:43 PM (NOIQH)


Ha! That's what I thought, too.

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 10, 2015 05:07 PM (WqEm0)

214 So, The Donald will consider a brokered convention as being treated unfairly and run as a 3rd party candidate?

At that point he becomes an agent for Billary's inevitable election. The GOPe, in their infinite stupidity, will once again suffer multiple gunshot wounds to their feet.

Posted by: Hank at December 10, 2015 05:07 PM (aIt1F)

215 205 The Five, anti-Trump theater.

Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:05 PM (nkCeM)


Gutfeld goes to my gym. Do I talk to the guy?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:07 PM (uhkms)

216 20+ huddled Monday w/ Priebus and McConnell


Yes, please!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at December 10, 2015 05:07 PM (hudka)

217 Except that we all know damned well that it's one of the mohammedans at the mosque that did it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2015 05:05 PM (gwpf+)



Vegas is paying 10 to 1 if the perp turns out to be non-muslim.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 10, 2015 05:07 PM (8ZskC)

218 Trying to figure out if it's OK to nominate Hillary?

Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (TxJGV)
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lol
Thread winner?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 05:07 PM (MbrzC)

219
"Polls in mid-December are not very predictive"
............................

Yeah none of them want to work. Just sit around inside by the fire and drink Krupnik.

Posted by: wth at December 10, 2015 05:07 PM (HgMAr)

220
Who is the Begonia douche? Moo-Moo in drag?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:08 PM (uhkms)

221 Where do you get pigs heads? Pigs feet I can find, pigs heads, not so much. I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 05:08 PM (oDCMR)

222 Carol said: "Based on the two sold out events in Massachusetts I believe Trump would win this state.

McGovern had huge rallies too...

Never judge a population size by the fervor of it's subset. That's why we have statistics.

And they're saying, as of today, Trump will get rocked in a general. Unfortunately.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at December 10, 2015 05:08 PM (ZMZ2g)

223 Gutfeld has never be so obtuse.



Paycheck.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at December 10, 2015 05:08 PM (hudka)

224 "Here's something else for you to accept, you alien-overlord Vogons of the GOP Establishment: you're never coming back if Hillary Clinton wins in 2016 after you arrogantly declare you'd prefer her to Trump. She'll finish Obama's "transforming America" project to make sure you're not electorally viable on the national level, and the Democrat mania for collectivist power will make all your House and state government victories largely meaningless, and you'll have a very hard time convincing a large and enraged segment of your base to work for your prospective return to power in 2020 or 2024."

http://tinyurl.com/jgh5ho3
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Damn.

Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 05:08 PM (zyIlW)

225 I'm starting to just accept it's going to be President Hillary Clinton.

I don't see any way out of this predicament, if Trump gets the nom, he'll lose, people aren't going to give a man like that the power to engage in a nuclear showdown. If Trump loses the nom, he'll do everything in his power to take out the eventual Republican and hand it to Hillary.

So it's President Hillary. Shame, because I do feel a center-right candidate could have beat her and we would at the very least had some semblance of non-3rd world government for a while.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:09 PM (MA8Bf)

226 221 Where do you get pigs heads? Pigs feet I can find, pigs heads, not so much. I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 05:08 PM (oDCMR)


Philip Tattaglia.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:09 PM (uhkms)

227 Voters are icky.

Posted by: he-man voter hates club at December 10, 2015 05:09 PM (NSb9d)

228 Why is the sidewalk always so close to my ass?

Posted by: Greg Gutfeld at December 10, 2015 05:09 PM (msPO3)

229 Denial isn't a river in Egypt.

Posted by: Flaccid Member at December 10, 2015 05:09 PM (5fSr7)

230 /ambiguously gay Senator sock off

Posted by: Mortimer at December 10, 2015 05:09 PM (hudka)

231 They cut a deal with Trump now they are breaking that deal. They are showing the world what two-faced pos they are. Trump will rub their noses in it if they do.



Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:09 PM (nkCeM)

232 Absolutely!!! Can't wait to see "The Cobra" strike.

That's what we called his hand when he'd utter the "You're Fired" words.
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He actually only did that once. On the very first episode. Did look like a cobra, though.

Posted by: Mega at December 10, 2015 05:09 PM (9Du4t)

233 225 Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:09 PM (MA8Bf)


You could not be more wrong in your assessment if you were Begonia.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:10 PM (uhkms)

234 Just like Romney!!!


Oh. Wait.

Past performance is no guarantee of future returns, but it can be a pretty good indicator.


The establishment's tactics used against them. No wonder I get laughing jags over this.

Seriously, if the GOP pulls this stunt for anything other than a legitimately fragmented delegate field, that's them crashing on a shitty couch on political Skid Row next to the Whigs.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 10, 2015 05:10 PM (9krrF)

235 It would make heads totally explode and seal the election.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:04 PM (uhkms

I'm not a Trump guy. But, I'm this close to hopping on board the Trump Train. I've had it with the GOP leadership. Sick & F*cking Tired.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 10, 2015 05:10 PM (voOPb)

236 Tattaglia's a pimp.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 05:10 PM (evdj2)

237 They cut a deal with Trump now they are breaking that deal.
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Kind of like they do with the people that vote for them.

Posted by: Mega at December 10, 2015 05:10 PM (9Du4t)

238 I think Cruz would be accepted by most Trump voters, the rest not so much.

But then I'm a Cruz supporter at this point, so my opinion is worthless.

Posted by: JEM at December 10, 2015 05:10 PM (o+SC1)

239 229 Denial isn't a river in Egypt.
Posted by: Flaccid Member at December 10, 2015 05:09 PM (5fSr7)


But the Fistula runs through Poland, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:10 PM (uhkms)

240 Tataglia's a pimp.

Posted by: Vito Corleone at December 10, 2015 05:10 PM (8ZskC)

241 "10 If Cruz and Trump connect, they have more than 50 percent.....game over.
Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 10, 2015 04:34 PM (uJK1E) "

This is the way I see it as well. If they hook up early with Cruz as the VP going into the Southern Primaries, assuming Trump can pull off a win in Iowa and NH, it's over. The only risk I can see is that Cruz is so unlikable to democrats it would jeopardize the cross over vote from traditional democrat voters. I have no polling data to back this up, but I see Trump having locked the blue collar white democrat vote up if he's the nominee. No way Hillary gets those votes over him.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at December 10, 2015 05:10 PM (n/ogz)

242 re 200: and what will they do if it turns out it was a gay black man who did it..?

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at December 10, 2015 05:11 PM (qSIlh)

243 What would happen if Hillary wins ... but then is found guilty of lying to the FBI ... resigns in disgrace (or is impeached) .... President ___________ ?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 10, 2015 05:11 PM (UhRGU)

244 We're just hearing about this on Thursday? It was a super secret meeting, but some talked.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:11 PM (sj3Ax)

245 That's some major-league wishcasting right there. The GOPe wants Heb!, no ifs, ands or buts.

Cruz
doesn't have a chance. His sole strength -- Identity Politics -- isn't
enough to help him with people he has already pissed off..

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I've never seen Cruz as an identity politics type of candidate. How do you come to that conclusion?

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 10, 2015 05:11 PM (Ql4Nd)

246 Trump is widely despised by both Democrats and Republicans. Who the heck do they think is going to vote for him? Aliens? Voting orcs being made right now at Isengard? Fucking weird, man.

Posted by: Pa-pa-Palin at December 10, 2015 05:11 PM (Y8P5w)

247 >>236 Gutfeld goes to my gym. Do I talk to the guy?



In the sauna. He'll like that.

Posted by: Garrett at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (spXTi)

248 Seriously, if the GOP pulls this stunt for anything other than a legitimately fragmented delegate field, that's them crashing on a shitty couch on political Skid Row next to the Whigs.
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Yep. Skid Row Hos with Whigs.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (oDCMR)

249 239 Gutfeld goes to my gym. Do I talk to the guy?

You talk to the guy and make him feel at ease. When he's feeling comfortable you squirt some Sirracha in his smug face.
Posted by: Wood Shampoo at December 10, 2015 05:10 PM (XzRw1)


I saw the words "squirt" and "face" and panicked, but then I saw "sirracha." Whew.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (uhkms)

250 Ow my eye!

Posted by: Jeb Bush at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (4ErVI)

251 This would seem to guarantee a Hillary victory.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (B8JRQ)

252 If the GOP would have listened to us a decade ago....they wouldn't be in this spot.


But nooooooo, they continued to spit in the faces of their Conservative base.


Paybacks are a bitch.


Posted by: pam at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (cF0hS)

253 re 200: and what will they do if it turns out it was a gay black man who did it..?
Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt


Throw him off the roof?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (9YDUz)

254 248 Yep. Skid Row Hos with Whigs.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (oDCMR)

Is that an Eagles song?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (uhkms)

255 Trump is widely despised by both Democrats and Republicans.

Yeah. Just look at those awful poll numbers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (8ZskC)

256 You could not be more wrong in your assessment if you were Begonia.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

________

How so?

Why do Trump voters share this delusion that Donald Trump will beat Hillary? All of the actual evidence shows he does the worst against her in a head to head contest and that he has the highest negatives.

More people hate Trump then they hate Hillary.

that was really our only ticket into the White House, that Hillary is an unlikable scrunt.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (MA8Bf)

257 I see Salmon Rushdie at my gym.

Posted by: Kramer at December 10, 2015 05:13 PM (spXTi)

258 Gutfeld wears panties.

Posted by: Dana Perino at December 10, 2015 05:13 PM (msPO3)

259 Even though Cruz is my first choice we have stuff that needs fixing. Trump/Cruz works for me.

The word of the day is potentiate;
[increase the power, effect, or likelihood of]

Sometimes 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4 it equals 1,000

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 10, 2015 05:13 PM (7v/r5)

260
Gee I wonder who predicted this...

Posted by: Gee I wonder.. at December 10, 2015 05:13 PM (O183S)

261 5 TallDave

"Right now, Cruz looks like the most likely winner."

Hope you're right. Though I do enjoy Trump kicking in the door to the whole congress of cards.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 10, 2015 05:13 PM (CzRJp)

262 Bergdahl: I deserted my unit to save it.

And I will save the nation!

Posted by: Jeb! at December 10, 2015 05:13 PM (FkBIv)

263 " Trump is widely despised by both Democrats and Republicans. Who the heck do they think is going to vote for him? Aliens? Voting orcs being made right now at Isengard? Fucking weird, man.
Posted by: Pa-pa-Palin at December 10, 2015 05:11 PM (Y8P5w)"

he is widely despised by some very loud people. I'm not so sure it's a majority in either party. He has a ceiling of 25 or 30 percent or whatever because there are still a million candidates in the race, expect some portion of the support from the candidates that drop out will split between the top contenders including Trump.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at December 10, 2015 05:13 PM (n/ogz)

264 Trump is widely despised by both Democrats and Republicans

Who are in turn, despised by voters.

It's the Great Wheel of Mutual Hatred, see.

Posted by: Mortimer at December 10, 2015 05:14 PM (hudka)

265 I always come in late to these things, but here goes anyway...

Conventional wisdom says broken, not brokered.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2015 05:14 PM (TOk1P)

266 That's some major-league wishcasting right there. The GOPe wants Heb!, no ifs, ands or buts.
Posted by: MrScribbler


Wanna hear something hilarious?

Midol Medved just today said that Jeb should quit.

It was golden.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2015 05:14 PM (9YDUz)

267 re 241: I've said before I'd rather see Cruz as Atty Gen.
I'd also say that the convention should have Carson give a speech about all the good the Dems' policies have done for Black people in the last fifty years. Prof Sowell would probably be glad to help write it.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at December 10, 2015 05:14 PM (qSIlh)

268 I saw a delicious young boy at my gym and fell off the treadmill.

Posted by: Harry Reid at December 10, 2015 05:14 PM (msPO3)

269 Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (oDCMR

Lace Whigs!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 10, 2015 05:14 PM (ftVQq)

270 I'm not a Trump guy. But, I'm this close to hopping on board the Trump Train. I've had it with the GOP leadership. Sick & F*cking Tired.
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C'mon, jump in. Otherwise you will spend the rest of the year telling yourself you can live with Rubio as pres. Do you want to go that low for comity with McConnell creatures?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 05:15 PM (oDCMR)

271 "How so?

Why do Trump voters share this delusion that Donald Trump will beat Hillary? All of the actual evidence shows he does the worst against her in a head to head contest and that he has the highest negatives.

More people hate Trump then they hate Hillary.

that was really our only ticket into the White House, that Hillary is an unlikable scrunt.
Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (MA8Bf)"

Unless I am missing something there are plenty of polls that show him leading Hillary in a head to head match up.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at December 10, 2015 05:15 PM (n/ogz)

272 HEY!

People, google Disturbed's Sound of Silence cover.

It's pretty freaking epic!

Sounds almost like something you would hear on a religious station or something.

Posted by: Max Power at December 10, 2015 05:15 PM (q177U)

273 Between all the people on FB saying stupid things about Trump and the people here pushing Jeb and hillary...it's enough to drive an unhinged right winger like me to violence. Just saying. Hey whens that meet up anyway?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:15 PM (DUoqb)

274 Hillary! enjoys Krupnik, too.

Posted by: wth at December 10, 2015 05:16 PM (HgMAr)

275 And when you thought Jeb was an afterthought...

Posted by: Boone at December 10, 2015 05:16 PM (X8yNf)

276 What would happen if Hillary wins ... but then is found guilty of lying to the FBI ... resigns in disgrace (or is impeached)

Haha! "Disgrace"! You typed that without falling out of your chair laughing? Oh man, and then the "impeached". This is like Stephen Wright level shit here.

Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at December 10, 2015 05:16 PM (k9qR4)

277 re 234: hint: think Wookie in an evening gown

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at December 10, 2015 05:16 PM (qSIlh)

278 Midol Medved just today said that Jeb should quit.
It was golden.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2015 05:14 PM


Really? Good news for Mutt Romney, then.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (ykopX)

279
I'm not a Trump guy. But, I'm this close to hopping on board the Trump Train.

Hold your nose and think of McConnell.

Hate-vote FTMFW.

Posted by: Mortimer at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (hudka)

280 Who the hell is pushing Hillary here?

Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (zyIlW)

281
Jeb Bush is endorsed by 27 retired admirals and generals.

Posted by: Jeb! at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (O183S)

282 Even Jebbie will beat Hillay...unless his handlers screw up.


Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (nkCeM)

283 Seriously, walk up to Greg in the Sauna and as you take your towel off, ask "would you like to see my unicorn tattoo?".

Posted by: Garrett at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (spXTi)

284 It's really the Democrats who are most likely to have a brokered convention. Or rather, to have the unpledged delegates make the decision. They have a lot more Superdelegates than the the Republicans.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (evdj2)

285 IIRC, the GOPe does NOT have "Super-Delegates" and many of the states are "winner-take-all".

I am not buying the "brokered convention" argument, yet.

TRUMP! may have it locked down with the California Primary in June.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (1ijHg)

286 -
The mayor of Philadelphia Michael Nutter is blaming Trump's policy proposal on banning Muzzies on a incident of a pig head being tossed at the front of a mosque.
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Here's the thing, I was just riding by on my mobility scooter, enjoying my regular 2 o'clock pork sandwich, and... it's possible I dropped a crumb or two.

Posted by: Michael Moore at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (pMGkg)

287 >>Unless I am missing something there are plenty of polls that show him leading Hillary in a head to head match up.

Over the last month or so they are trending toward Hillary.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (/tuJf)

288 And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison, and will go forth and deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Rinse and McConnell, and will gather them together for the battle, the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (oDCMR)

289 .it's enough to drive an unhinged right winger like me to violence.

I don't think self-abuse is considered violence.

Posted by: no good deed at December 10, 2015 05:18 PM (GgxVX)

290 Can they still have smoke filled rooms, or does OSHA and the EPA show up and issue summonses?

Posted by: tu3031 at December 10, 2015 05:18 PM (YFFpo)

291 I think the deal is for Cruz to toss his support to Trump right before the SEC primary, locking the South and Texas for Trump. Cruz doesn't go on the ticket as VP, he gets the first open SCOTUS seat. It all over but the crying by mid March.

Trump goes non-political for VP: Carson, a celebrity (Eastwood?), Mark Cuben, maybe a General (Ham? - nothing like a black general putting Benghazi on the front page every day), some skirt to slap Hilary around.

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 05:18 PM (fBkaR)

292 >> "Somebody who wasnt damaged by the rancorous 2016 primary battles, but
knows the process, has mastered it once and is experienced enough to be a serious candidate. I think its worth considering."

As the T-shirt says, "He's Tan, Rested, and Ready, Nixon in '16."

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at December 10, 2015 05:18 PM (nSW/N)

293 More people hate Trump then they hate Hillary.



that was really our only ticket into the White House, that Hillary is an unlikable scrunt.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (MA8Bf)


Don't be such a silly person.
And what's with this "our only ticket" business, I doubt they'll let you get within 1000 feet of the White House, regardless of the occupant.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2015 05:18 PM (TOk1P)

294 271 Unless I am missing something there are plenty of polls that show him leading Hillary in a head to head match up.

In which states?

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 10, 2015 05:18 PM (YjDyJ)

295 Unless I am missing something there are plenty of polls that show him leading Hillary in a head to head match up.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand

______________

Every poll I've seen shows him doing the worst of all the other Republicans running. You can go to Real Clear Politics and look at the averages.

But what's more damaging is his negative personal approval ratings, he's absolutely radioactive and has more negative sentiment than even Hillary.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:18 PM (MA8Bf)

296 Seriously, walk up to Greg in the Sauna and as you take your towel off, ask "would you like to see my unicorn tattoo does this look like a chancre to you?".

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 05:18 PM (evdj2)

297 That's gonna be pretty tough unless there are two very closely matched candidates and I just do not see that happening at this point.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 05:19 PM (39g3+)

298 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (Zu3d9)
on the ground we are re registering indies and DEMS who wont vote for Killary to vote Trump...Lifelong union dems...farmers....young people 30 to 50 who normally dont caucus....Its gonna be a hoot in IA...hope the precinct locations are big enough...check out the 30 - 50 crowds at his rallys....we are workin the hell outta them..#Trump will win...unless ....shenanigans..

Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at December 10, 2015 05:19 PM (vXqv3)

299 165 I saw Lesser Mustelids open for Little Feat at the Cow Palace back in '83


Damn! I would have loved that show! Wish I coulda been there.

Posted by: Lowell George at December 10, 2015 05:19 PM (TxJGV)

300
I don't think self-abuse is considered violence.

UR DOIN IT WRONG

Posted by: lolMorons at December 10, 2015 05:19 PM (hudka)

301 So who's Trump going to insult next? Little people? Guys with vasectomies? Women with hysterectomies? Subway riders? Uncircumcised folk?

Posted by: Fake fake fake candidate at December 10, 2015 05:19 PM (Y8P5w)

302 The mayor of Philadelphia Michael Nutter is blaming Trump's policy proposal on banning Muzzies on a incident of a pig head
being tossed at the front of a mosque.

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 04:59 PM

I can see Poppin' Fresh writing the headline for Tepid Air now: Nutter Condemns Trump!
Posted by: MrScribbler



So? Even if he was responsible, beats stacking 14 muzz bodies out there.

THAT would be the pushback people are looking for.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2015 05:19 PM (b2Qci)

303 Who the hell is pushing Hillary here?
Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM (zyIlW)


All the people saying that any support for Trump or his ideas puts hillary in the White House... they should go play in someone else's sandbox

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:19 PM (DUoqb)

304
IIRC, the GOPe does NOT have "Super-Delegates"
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo



The GOPe dosn't call them "supers", but I believe three per state and a handful for the national party.

And in the darkness bind them.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 10, 2015 05:20 PM (kdS6q)

305
I too endorse Jeb!

Posted by: Cap'n Crunch at December 10, 2015 05:20 PM (O183S)

306 Jeb Bush is endorsed by 27 retired admirals and generals.

Posted by: Jeb! at December 10, 2015 05:17 PM


Saw a teevee commercial this noontime featuring several CMOH recipients endorsing Heb!.

Can't quite bring myself to say "Thank you for your service, now GFY" but am damn close to it.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 10, 2015 05:20 PM (ykopX)

307 The initial report said the pig head was roasted so I assume it was a leftover from a whole pig roast.
Mmmmmmmm pork fat rules.

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (k0xxN)

308 More people hate Trump then they hate Hillary.

If another WORD is spoken about this TRUMP fellow , I shall hold my breath until...until I SWOON!

*sniff*

Posted by: lolMorons at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (hudka)

309 I don't think self-abuse is considered violence.


Like an industrial robot gone berserk.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (evdj2)

310 I'm not a big Trump fan, but he's got plenty of supporters in Massachusetts, just from listening to Howie Carr. Now if Trump & Cruz run a president & VP, I think they'd win.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (sj3Ax)

311 The last poll I saw shows Cruz losing to Hillary as well.

I think Rubio did the best.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (4ErVI)

312 Trump goes non-political for VP:>>>

Or makes it the family business and get Ivanka as VP.

Posted by: Rubio public mindthoughts at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (XtAzU)

313 More people hate Trump then they hate Hillary.

So what, haters don't post.

Every other candidate has to rely on the worlds muslims to NOT do something stupid for another 11 months. Who wants to take that bet?

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (fBkaR)

314 Jeb is running TV ads in... California. I don't get the logic.

Posted by: IC at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (a0IVu)

315 Priebus and McConnell? I've got chunks of guys like this in my stool.

Posted by: Trump at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (8aOqE)

316 /phtui

Posted by: Mortimer at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (hudka)

317 I think they meant to say broken.

Posted by: Clarney at December 10, 2015 05:22 PM (dgO4h)

318
Or makes it the family business and get Ivanka as VP.
Posted by: Rubio public mindthoughts




VPILF

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 10, 2015 05:22 PM (kdS6q)

319 296 Seriously, walk up to Greg in the Sauna and as you take your towel off, ask "would you like to see my unicorn tattoo does this look like a chancre to you?".
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 05:18 PM (evdj2)


"I named my chancre Albert. How 'bout yours?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 05:22 PM (uhkms)

320 I actually haven't gone all in on any candidate this year, unlike in years past.


So far I'm just making popcorn and seeing what there is to see.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 05:23 PM (4ErVI)

321 The only people Trump has insulted are those who do not consider to every word he says. He sets the bait, waits then reels 'em in.


Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:23 PM (nkCeM)

322 NGU,

Oh, that.

Seems that being all stompyfoot whining about "I'd rather vote for Hillary! because Trump is so...eww!" would be just as likely to get hillary elected.

Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 05:23 PM (zyIlW)

323 34 The GOPe is dying, this would kill it.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 04:37 PM (sj3Ax)

Stop teasing me!

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (YtbIl)

324 More people hate Trump then they hate Hillary

I dunno, maybe. The key is how many voters hate either one more, and like either one more. Who knows at this point? Either way, as I see it... we lose.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (39g3+)

325 Rubio, Romney, McCain, Dole. Can we stop the insanity now? Please.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (oDCMR)

326 Did someone say steam room?

Posted by: Reggie Love at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (msPO3)

327 The next President will get to pick anywhere from 3-5 SCOTUS judges, so you best pray to god the Donks don't win the Presidency.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (WVvzl)

328 >>>Trump goes non-political for VP:>>>

Or makes it the family business and get Ivanka as VP.


Posted by: Rubio public mindthoughts at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (XtAzU)<<<

**closes eyes, crosses fingers**

Oh please let this VP swim naked... oh please let this VP swim naked... oh please let this VP swim naked...

Posted by: every male Secret Service agent (and maybe a few of the women ones too) at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (H9MG5)

329 75 The Whig Party just emailed to say You go girls!

Nominated for thread winner.
Posted by: Infidel at December 10, 2015 04:43 PM (7tCdZ)

Agreed

Posted by: Nora at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (Trq86)

330 A brokered convention? Yeah, that's totally not going to put the nail in the coffin for the Stupid Party.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (oVJmc)

331 El Chapo The worlds most wanted drug lord has declared war on the Islamic State, promising the terror groups leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, that his narcotics cartel will wipe them off the planet.

Shit let's elect him President...the dems would go along with an illegal right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (DUoqb)

332 This is entirely premature!
The Stupid Party, once again, shows why it has that nickname.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (sj3Ax)

333 Cleveland?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (Fa2IA)

334 You don't have to like Trump.


Simply, recognize that he is the anti-Obama who will shove chaos in the other direction.

Or rip a hole in the space-time continuum.


One of those.

Posted by: Mortimer at December 10, 2015 05:24 PM (hudka)

335 re 312: whenever I see the progs pushing merchandise that reads "a Woman's Place is in the White House" I want Trump to steal the idea and add Ivanka's picture to it. Hell, she has more real world experience than Hillery.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at December 10, 2015 05:25 PM (qSIlh)

336 Ahh, the end of the GOPe.

Posted by: Iblis at December 10, 2015 05:25 PM (9221z)

337 I don't trust polls at all, they can be made to show whatever the taker wants the outcome to be

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 05:26 PM (k0xxN)

338 168 The mayor of Philadelphia Michael Nutter is blaming Trump's policy proposal on banning Muzzies on a incident of a pig head being tossed at the front of a mosque.

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2015 04:59 PM (k0xxN)
---

Next months news: Mayor of Philadelphia found to be behind the placing of a pic head in front of a mosque last month....

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 05:26 PM (MbrzC)

339 289 .it's enough to drive an unhinged right winger like me to violence.

I don't think self-abuse is considered violence.

Posted by: no good deed at December 10, 2015 05:18 PM (GgxVX)


Uh, I disagree.

Posted by: Nevergiveup's dick at December 10, 2015 05:26 PM (WqEm0)

340 A brokered convention doesn't mean "they are taking it away from Trump"

They were saying the same thing for Establishmentarian Mitt Romney as well if he didn't get the required delegates.

It was looking very likely Romney was going to have to put Santorum on the ticket in order to get past the finish line until Santorum left.

If Trump gets the most primary votes, he'll be at the top of the ticket. Anything less and there would be a much bigger wipeout with the party splitting up.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:26 PM (MA8Bf)

341 I believe the proper response is:

Fuck you. War.

Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2015 05:26 PM (ZbV+0)

342 re 324: maybe because the MSM gives lots of hate time to Trump and next to none to Hillery?

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at December 10, 2015 05:27 PM (qSIlh)

343 Trump really should have made them sign a pledge to support him if he is the nominee.

Posted by: Mayans at December 10, 2015 05:27 PM (Z/8dZ)

344 Any chance they'll find the weapon from the Vince Foster suicide in that lake?

Posted by: Fritz at December 10, 2015 05:27 PM (3tjn4)

345 "We've lost control of the convention."

"What? When did this happen?"

"It's worse than that. We've also lost control of the hotel and there are no viable means of evacuation."

"Well what do we control?"

"This room. For now."

*ominous booming sounds outside door*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 05:27 PM (4ErVI)

346
"Midol Medved"

heh

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at December 10, 2015 05:27 PM (WjXce)

347 I know Trump will lose, and here's why. I'm not voting for him. I'm center right, a fiscal conservative/social moderate/hawk. And I know lots of people like me who "ain't votin' for Trump, no fucking way," including my entire extended family. If you've lost us, you can't win. Period. You only win if you consolidate the Right AND take a majority of independents AND make inroads with moderate Dems. Trump can't even consolidate the Right. I mean, the fact that Trump supporters are routinely denouncing Fox News (!!!) shows how off course they are.

Trump runs as an Independent and gets 8% of the vote. Hillary wins. Trump voters get blamed for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: Fake fake fake candidate at December 10, 2015 05:28 PM (Y8P5w)

348 Vince Foster's car keys?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:28 PM (Fa2IA)

349 @349

Yes.

Posted by: Mega at December 10, 2015 05:28 PM (9Du4t)

350 "167 Trump could lock it up if he got Cruz on board as VP and announced it.
Ideology wise they're the best 'fit'. Trump the better negotiator -- he knows where a good starting position should be -- only slightly less than outlandish. Cruz the better lawyer and political insider."

As VP, Cruz would be "President of the Senate"... just think of
the pay-back. For the first year or two he could eat, sleep, and
crap with the gavel in his hand.

Posted by: desu at December 10, 2015 05:28 PM (AfZFG)

351 this horse's a$$ just let strategy cat out of the bag

Posted by: SMOD 2016 at December 10, 2015 05:28 PM (Trq86)

352 Any chance they'll find the weapon from the Vince Foster suicide in that lake?
Posted by: Fritz at December 10, 2015 05:27 PM (3tjn4)

more likely the knife the real killer used to kill OJ's wife

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:29 PM (DUoqb)

353 Drill_thrall,
I'm sorry, but the GOPe must start with Conservatives & rid the DC establishment.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:29 PM (sj3Ax)

354 And I know lots of people like me who "ain't votin' for Trump, no fucking way," including my entire extended family.


lol...excellent!

Posted by: Mortimer at December 10, 2015 05:29 PM (hudka)

355 I don't think self-abuse is considered violence.

Do it on meth and you get El Chapo.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 10, 2015 05:29 PM (FkBIv)

356 re 347: are you the guy who turns up every election to say (like in the NY Times) "I'm a life-long Republican but this time I have to vote Democrat because the Republicans have become too extreme"?

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at December 10, 2015 05:29 PM (qSIlh)

357 A brokered convention from the people who brought you Thad Cochran. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 10, 2015 05:30 PM (oVJmc)

358 Every other candidate has to rely on the worlds muslims to NOT do something stupid for another 11 months. Who wants to take that bet?

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (fBkaR)

Absolutely. I've done the math. ISIS in varying degrees of complicity in SIX attacks in SIX countries in the past SIXty days killing over five hundred innocents. If Hillary thinks that is somehow going to extemporaneously stop, she's more brain addled than even I think. The trend line is through the roof.

/ please notice SIX,SIX,SIX, btw.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 10, 2015 05:30 PM (7v/r5)

359 Posted by: Mayans at December 10, 2015 05:27 PM (Z/8dZ)

I think Trump forgot one of the critical elements from the art of the deal, namely, have a backup plan to screw everyone that intends to screw you!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 10, 2015 05:30 PM (ftVQq)

360 Is El Chapo still on the lamb?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:30 PM (Fa2IA)

361 I just love conservative who rationalize putting a left wing democrat commie in the White House?

Fuckin idiots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:30 PM (DUoqb)

362 Trump voters get blamed for the rest of their lives.

Meh. I'm sure the replacement party to the GOP will take them in.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 05:30 PM (evdj2)

363 They talking about Enrique, who bought the guns and gave them to the terrorists a couple of years ago, can be prosecuted for giving the guns to them.
They are blowing wind.


Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:30 PM (nkCeM)

364 Perot?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:31 PM (Fa2IA)

365 331 El Chapo The worlds most wanted drug lord has declared war on the Islamic State

Didn't he "fall" off a mountain cliff while surrounded by angry Mexican cops a week or two back? I thought I read something along those lines...

Posted by: Lowell George at December 10, 2015 05:31 PM (TxJGV)

366 Is El Chapo still on the lamb?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:30 PM (Fa2IA)

he don't need no freaked lamb....he is not muslim...ever see his 18 year old wife?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:31 PM (DUoqb)

367 Trump runs as an Independent and gets 8% of the vote. Hillary wins. Trump voters get blamed for the rest of their lives.

Thank you, your concern has been noted.

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 10, 2015 05:32 PM (WqEm0)

368 "El Chapo The worlds most wanted drug lord has declared war on the Islamic State"
-----

Cutting into his business.

Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 05:33 PM (zyIlW)

369 Every other candidate has to rely on the worlds muslims to NOT do something stupid for another 11 months

Been thinking about this.

Do the 'non-terrorist' Muslims (who I am told EVERYWHERE) pray to Allah to keep the terrorist Muslims from blowing up people for Allah?

Very confused.

Posted by: Mortimer at December 10, 2015 05:33 PM (hudka)

370 Any chance they'll find the weapon from the Vince Foster suicide in that lake?

And the one that killed Ron Brown before the plane wreck...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 05:33 PM (39g3+)

371 "327
The next President will get to pick anywhere from 3-5 SCOTUS judges, so you best pray to god the Donks don't win the Presidency."

Bingo. But Trump supporters don't care, because "we lose all the SCOTUS case anyways" (untrue) and "whoever the GOP wants wouldn't be any better" (absurd). They think they're destroying the GOP, but all they are doing is ceding control of the country to the Dems, who will ram every damn thing conservatives hate down their throats. Trump supporters are cutting off their heads to spite their faces. Mindless.

Posted by: Fake fake fake candidate at December 10, 2015 05:33 PM (Y8P5w)

372 I hate to be the voice of calm and reason in an otherwise full-blown festive holiday freakout, but wouldn't it be prudent to discuss a brokered convention, given the plurality of potentials still in the running?

I could see it being a conspiracy if it was just Trump v. Jeb! But we're not there, yet.

Posted by: Trump at December 10, 2015 05:33 PM (3dOE/)

373 Had a voter come up to me once. He told me he was concerned. Very concerned about the direction I'm taking the party. I told him to go fuck himself!

Posted by: Trump at December 10, 2015 05:33 PM (9Du4t)

374 If Trump runs third party it's a guaranteed Hillary win.

Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:33 PM (nkCeM)

375 Off fat man in the bathtub sock!

Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 05:33 PM (TxJGV)

376 re 357: or Jesse Ventura runs as an Indy and gets 34 percent of the vote in a three way race, becomes gov of Minnesota.

If Trump vs Hillery, I'd bet Trump will push Hillery's buttons until she has a melt-down on camera.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at December 10, 2015 05:34 PM (qSIlh)

377 Any chance they'll find the weapon from the Vince Foster suicide in that lake?

The last election seemed to swing on a big storm scaring New Yorkers. Right up until that point the polls were leaning Romney. This election could hinge on a terrorist strike.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 05:34 PM (39g3+)

378 If Trump runs third party it's a guaranteed Hillary win.
Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:33 PM (nkCeM)


Your a Harvard or Yale grad?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:34 PM (DUoqb)

379 The Republican Mau-mauing isn't working anymore.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at December 10, 2015 05:34 PM (evdj2)

380 Free range jihadist,
I think that there will be more here, with SCOAMF as president. I wouldn't be shocked if it's Christmas either. Or Christmas Eve,

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:34 PM (sj3Ax)

381 If the GOPe (piss be upon them ) had fought Obama half as hard as they are fighting Trump, there wouldn't be a Trump to fight.

But that irony will be completely lost on the stupid, treacherous, treasonous cocksucking GOPe.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 10, 2015 05:35 PM (HMt16)

382 Looks like a lotta new hashes up in here.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 05:35 PM (4ErVI)

383 360 Is El Chapo still on the lamb?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:30 PM (Fa2IA)



Lamb? Goat!

Posted by: Al-Chapo Aziz Muhammed at December 10, 2015 05:35 PM (vgIRn)

384 Trump is already leading this country, if you hadn't noticed...

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at December 10, 2015 05:35 PM (WjXce)

385 Posted by: desu at December 10, 2015 05:28 PM (AfZFG)


Hey, Jeb. How's that 3% feel?

I know, you're a 'long time lurker'.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 10, 2015 05:35 PM (7v/r5)

386 We could get 3 to 5 more Dread Justice Roberts.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:35 PM (Fa2IA)

387 A brokered convention will be the best decision out of Cleveland since the drafting of Johnny Manziel.

Posted by: Rancid Penis and Bitch McTurtle at December 10, 2015 05:35 PM (H9MG5)

388 think that there will be more here, with SCOAMF as president. I wouldn't be shocked if it's Christmas either. Or Christmas Eve,
Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:34 PM (sj3Ax)

So then us Jews are safe at home on Xmas Eve with our Chinese food?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:35 PM (DUoqb)

389 The last election seemed to swing on a big storm scaring New Yorkers.
-----------------------------

Don't forget us.

Posted by: Dead Voters (Still Voting Democrat 126% of the Time!) at December 10, 2015 05:36 PM (9Du4t)

390 Trump runs as an Independent and gets 8% of the vote. Hillary wins. Trump voters get blamed for the rest of their lives.

How is that worse than Jeb or Rubio winning?

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 05:36 PM (fBkaR)

391 the GOPe would rather lose elections than their personal access to power and prestige...

which is why so many people are happy to support Trump, despite all his flaws.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 10, 2015 05:37 PM (7+yyM)

392 Trump is already leading this country, if you hadn't noticed...

Well he's certainly leading the discussion and news cycle and nobody else is, not even the sitting President.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 05:37 PM (39g3+)

393 Those guys were all actual, credible politicians. Trump is an entertainer and, well, Donald Trump. People expecting him to be an idiot is only a plus in terms of getting media coverage.

Unless he actually wins Iowa or NH, his campaign could easily dissolve as actual GOP voters show up. A lot of his support is just people saying "f u" to the pollsters and media.
Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:48 PM (74ZYB)

If the GOPe believed that, they wouldn't be huddling about a brokered convention. Their internal polling has them panicked.

Posted by: WOPR at December 10, 2015 05:37 PM (LTDSy)

394 243 What would happen if Hillary wins ... but then is found guilty of lying to the FBI ... resigns in disgrace (or is impeached)
----
hah ahaha hhaha not ever going to happen, especially that resign or impeachment part.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 05:37 PM (MbrzC)

395 WhatWhatWhat,
That's true!
They never fought TFG but kick the Base all the time & their biggest achievement is Failure Theater.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:37 PM (sj3Ax)

396 @384

Excellent observation. Thanks to him we are actually talking about immigration policies, etc.

Posted by: IC at December 10, 2015 05:38 PM (a0IVu)

397 Looking forward to the allegations of the RNC fixing the elections if Trump doesn't win the primaries. It's going to be more interesting than the Kennedy assassination theories.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 05:38 PM (iRZl4)

398 I hate to be the voice of calm and reason in an otherwise full-blown festive holiday freakout, but wouldn't it be prudent to discuss a brokered convention, given the plurality of potentials still in the running?

I could see it being a conspiracy if it was just Trump v. Jeb! But we're not there, yet.

___________________

That's just it, people hear this and think it means Trump goes in to the Convention with the most votes and then Jeb gets handed the nomination instead.

More likely would be some swapping of delegates to get over the threshold and Cruz is the VP slot. But Cruz is too smart to end his Presidential ambitions that way and possibly lose a 40 state landslide.

But I could maybe see Ben Carson being on the ticket if he gets some delegates.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:39 PM (MA8Bf)

399 Posted by: Fake fake fake candidate at December 10, 2015 05:28 PM (Y8P5w)


Your fake fake fake concern has been duly noted.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 10, 2015 05:39 PM (HMt16)

400 if trump leaves the party and anyone other than cruz is the candidate...i'm voting for trump....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at December 10, 2015 05:39 PM (0O7c5)

401 Th guy with the Russian mail order bride is going to be tough on immigration?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:39 PM (Fa2IA)

402 *muttering*

When the red horse rides, and the blood moon has fallen ...and the broken stars are soaked in the blood of Babylon...

THEN you will get your precious TRUMP.

You will ALL get your PRECIOUS TRUMP!

TRUMPPPPPP!



*bumpty bump*

Posted by: trumpetdiddly at December 10, 2015 05:39 PM (hudka)

403
El Chapo has declared war on ISIS?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 10, 2015 05:39 PM (iQIUe)

404 But seriously, I did have one lady come up to me a couple of weeks ago. Really sweet lady. And she said "Donald, you're a great guy. Look at what they're trying to do to you." That's the entire story!

Posted by: Trump at December 10, 2015 05:40 PM (9Du4t)

405 Trump runs as an Independent and gets 8% of the vote. Hillary wins. Trump voters get blamed for the rest of their lives.



How is that worse than Jeb or Rubio winning?
.
Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 05:36 PM (fBkaR)<<<


Right.

The GOP needs to let it play out and if it's Trump it's Trump. Threatening to throw him overboard now..., well, come to think of it it's typical.




Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:40 PM (nkCeM)

406 Posted by: redc1c4 at December 10, 2015 05:37 PM (7+yyM)

You can't blame the GOPe for being corrupt, they're politicians, sort of like scorpions gotta be scorpions!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 10, 2015 05:40 PM (ftVQq)

407 392 Trump is already leading this country, if you hadn't noticed...

Well he's certainly leading the discussion and news cycle and nobody else is, not even the sitting President.



Gotta wonder if that stings our poor Narcissist in Chief? Probably not. He so enchanted with himself, he probably doesn't notice.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 10, 2015 05:40 PM (9kJ6O)

408 alternative post title: GOP contemplating suicide

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at December 10, 2015 05:40 PM (Cq0oW)

409 Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 05:36 PM (fBkaR)

Rubio and even Bush is a hundred times better than Hillary.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 05:40 PM (iRZl4)

410 I wouldn't vote for Carson.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:41 PM (sj3Ax)

411 re 391: "the GOPe would rather lose elections than their personal access to power and prestige..."

thread winner. Almost like they'd rather be the general who signs the surrender papers than one of the lieutenants in the victory parade.

Posted by: Mallfly Cloggenstein of Bratwurst Vt at December 10, 2015 05:41 PM (qSIlh)

412 Th guy with the Russian mail order bride is going to be tough on immigration?

Tougher than you'd ever believe!

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 10, 2015 05:41 PM (0NdlF)

413 The Israeli Secret Intelligence Service must be quaking in their sandals.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:41 PM (Fa2IA)

414 it's funny to hear Sean Hannity talk about the need for true leadership among the conservative movement.

Um, that right there is a leader.
Of course so was the subject of Godwin's law.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at December 10, 2015 05:41 PM (WjXce)

415 A private club like the GOP-e can do whatever the fuck it wants whenever it wants. They will change and throw out rules and make shit up right up to the last minute. And if the lose, they'll support Hilary.

I would bet on it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2015 04:53 PM (uhkms)

Rules are for little people and for keeping them in line.

Posted by: WOPR at December 10, 2015 05:41 PM (LTDSy)

416 I hate to be the voice of calm and reason in an otherwise full-blown festive holiday freakout, but wouldn't it be prudent to discuss a brokered convention, given the plurality of potentials still in the running?

Posted by: Trump at December 10, 2015 05:33 PM (3dOE/)


NO! FREAK OUT!

It's a *Primary*, the whole point is to hysterically freak out and attack everyone, friend or foe, that is not wearing your tribal insignia! Anyone who does not hold the fork the way we do supports SATAN!

We gain unity by becoming so sick of each other we can't stand to be in each other's presence! We gain strength by cutting off our limbs! Most importantly, we gain FREAKISM, which can be traded for cigarrettes during the burning times.

Posted by: Hysterical Freakouts of All Ages at December 10, 2015 05:42 PM (bLnSU)

417 If they do the brokered convention thing, I will change my registration to Independent. When the find themselves losing, if they refuse to abide by all the byzantine rules they put in place to aid themselves, then they are now such dishonest brokers that I refuse to be associated with the in even the smallest way.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 10, 2015 05:42 PM (kXoT0)

418 Rubio and even Bush is a hundred times better than Hillary.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 05:40 PM (iRZl4)

You may be right, but just reading that makes me want to puke and punch someone

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:42 PM (DUoqb)

419 Not only are the Trump numbers worrisome, they also have that thing that goes up.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 05:43 PM (4ErVI)

420 Don't forget us.

Posted by: Dead Voters


Oh, they're always there. The storm pushed the vote closer to the margin of fraud, maybe within it. Another event of that sort will lean people toward sugar daddy Gubmint that will fix everything domestic. A terrorist attack will lean people toward a strong Gubmint that protects them from foreign threats. That could be the entire election.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 05:43 PM (39g3+)

421 There is one person I admire more than me. And that's myself tomorrow. Because I'm always striving to be better. Next Day Donald rules!

Posted by: Trump at December 10, 2015 05:43 PM (9Du4t)

422 Rubio and even Bush is a hundred times better than Hillary.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 05:40 PM (iRZl4)
However much better they are in personal terms, or in terms of the policies they would endorse, in practice they would do nothing more than serve the GOP Establishment's mission of providing intervals of consolidation between intervals of leftward movement. The Trump phenomenon shows voters want something different.

Posted by: An Inanimate Carbon Rod at December 10, 2015 05:43 PM (FohCt)

423 I mean, the fact that Trump supporters are routinely denouncing Fox News (!!!) shows how off course they are...

Posted by: Fake fake fake candidate at December 10, 2015 05:28 PM (Y8P5w)

Haven't watched Faux News lately have you? GOPe to the core! (with a couple of exceptions)

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 10, 2015 05:43 PM (YtbIl)

424 Brokered Convention? Does that mean they auction off the nomination to the highest bidder as usual?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:44 PM (Fa2IA)

425 Polls in mid-December are not very predictive in any Presidential election. The debacle in Britain, where they missed so badly to the left they could not explain how it happened, has a lot of pollsters worried.

I heard the same "excitement" about Sarah Palin.
Posted by: TallDave at December 10, 2015 04:54 PM (74ZYB)

Keep whistling by the graveyard. Trump has led for months. Had Jeb? done the same thing, they would be all but anointing him and we would be down to two or three competitors.

Posted by: WOPR at December 10, 2015 05:44 PM (LTDSy)

426 Hysterical Freakouts of All Ages at December 10, 2015 05:42 PM (bLnSU)

I would very much like to register for your newsletter.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2015 05:44 PM (/tuJf)

427 Ricky, don't lose that number its the only one you've got.


Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:44 PM (nkCeM)

428 None will triumph over the pant suited juggernaut.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:45 PM (Fa2IA)

429 Why though do so many otherwise reliable conservatives express concern? Can you really write it off as just "closet liberals"?

I mean the owner of this site Ace has said the man is completely unfit to be President. Is he really some sort of "Establishment double agent", or could a lot of conservatives be genuinely worried that we're making a very stupid decision because we're so pissed off. I make dumb decisions when I'm mad, so do most people.

The next President will get enough SC and judicial picks to rule this country for 1-2 generations, not sure I'm willing to throw that away.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:45 PM (MA8Bf)

430 I am looking forward to the hilarity that will ensue.

Popcorn !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 10, 2015 05:45 PM (erRNA)

431 418...
I bought a Clown Bop Bag...

Posted by: Judas Washington at December 10, 2015 05:46 PM (eOpVe)

432 I think that there will be more here, with SCOAMF as president. I wouldn't be shocked if it's Christmas either. Or Christmas Eve,

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:34 PM (sj3Ax)

Of course I hope to hell nothing happens but math is not on the side of the innocents. With Obama actively pushing the odds harder against Hillary by attempting to bring in tens of thousands more before the election.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 10, 2015 05:46 PM (7v/r5)

433 re 416: what makes you think I give a crap how you hold a fork? As the punchline of an old joke puts it "so what am I supposed to stir my coffee with, my dick?"

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 05:46 PM (qSIlh)

434 Don't compare yourself to me. That's a recipe for disaster. It would be a total, total disaster and you would end up feeling probably very ashamed. Believe in yourself!

Posted by: Trump at December 10, 2015 05:46 PM (9Du4t)

435 314 Jeb is running TV ads in... California. I don't get the logic.

Posted by: IC at December 10, 2015 05:21 PM (a0IVu)
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Gotta waste the pac money somehow in the next 60 days. He's been running them for months in GA... he numbers have done nothing but drop.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 05:46 PM (MbrzC)

436 Rubio and even Bush is a hundred times better than Hillary.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 05:40 PM (iRZl4


Then why do they have the same donors?

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 05:47 PM (fBkaR)

437
Th guy with the Russian mail order bride is going to be tough on immigration?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:39 PM (Fa2IA)
...............

He already got his. He even added some new headlights.

Posted by: wth at December 10, 2015 05:48 PM (HgMAr)

438 Looks like a lotta new hashes up in here.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 05:35 PM (4ErVI)


Noticed that, did you?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2015 05:48 PM (bLnSU)

439 Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:45 PM (M

Don't you know that Trump will surround himself with fantastic people , so smart and fantastic. Did I mention fantastic? Anyway theses fantastic people will help Trump make the right decisions.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 05:48 PM (iRZl4)

440 "whoever the GOP wants wouldn't be any better" (absurd)
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We agree!

Posted by: John Roberts and Harriet Myers at December 10, 2015 05:48 PM (ZbV+0)

441 The next President will get enough SC and judicial picks to rule this country for 1-2 generations, not sure I'm willing to throw that away.
Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:45 PM (MA8Bf)

And your point?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:48 PM (DUoqb)

442 BUT THE DEMOCRATS ARE WORSE!!!!!*










*Offer only valid for when approved establishment candidate is selected.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 10, 2015 05:48 PM (z/Ubi)

443 Meanwhile, back at the FBI, fingering Hillary's files...

Posted by: navybrat at December 10, 2015 05:48 PM (Xodlv)

444 rasmussen, from weaselzippers:

Despite an international uproar and condemnation by President Obama and nearly all of those running for the presidency, Donald Trump's proposed ban on Muslims coming to the United States has the support of a sizable majority of Republicans - and a plurality of all voters.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 66% of Likely Republican Voters favor a temporary ban on all Muslims entering the United States until the federal government improves its ability to screen out potential terrorists from coming here. Just 24% oppose the plan, with 10% undecided.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 05:49 PM (qSIlh)

445 Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2015 05:47 PM (fBkaR)

Same reason Trump donated to Hillary.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 05:49 PM (iRZl4)

446 Meanwhile, back at the FBI, fingering Hillary's files...
Posted by: navybrat at December 10, 2015 05:48 PM (Xodlv)

Gee that could be read the wrong way and..... ah never mind.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:49 PM (DUoqb)

447 The JEF jabbed Trump while celebrating 13th amendment that freed slaves, on all days.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:49 PM (sj3Ax)

448 343 Trump really should have made them sign a pledge to support him if he is the nominee.

Posted by: Mayans at December 10, 2015 05:27 PM (Z/8dZ)
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They did.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 05:50 PM (MbrzC)

449 Anyone who does not hold the fork the way we do supports SATAN!

Fuck you, tine-boy.

Posted by: #SpoonLivesMatter at December 10, 2015 05:50 PM (hudka)

450 Bush is running a lotta ads in Florida, and still far behind Trump


heh. "27 generals and admirals support Jeb". In a similar fashion, my jockstrap supports ME

Posted by: Lou Reed, life coach to the stars at December 10, 2015 05:50 PM (8CdUx)

451 Posted by: Fake fake fake candidate at December 10, 2015 05:28 PM (Y8P5w)
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Actually you get blamed for the rest of your life.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 05:50 PM (MbrzC)

452 also from weaselz:

As Hillary Clinton slams Donald Trump's rhetoric on Muslims, some liberal and Muslim advocacy organizations are calling on the Democratic presidential front-runner to distance herself from Wesley Clark, the retired general and longtime Clinton ally who made controversial remarks on segregating radicalized Muslims this summer.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 05:50 PM (qSIlh)

453 The next President will get enough SC and judicial picks to rule this country for 1-2 generations, not sure I'm willing to throw that away.
Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:45 PM (MA8Bf)

And your point?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

______________

I don't want the Clintons making those choices.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:51 PM (MA8Bf)

454 Iowa GOP caucus turnout was about 130,000 people in 2012. If it is snowy that night, it might be closer to 2000 when it was way under 100,000.

One forgets that Iowa is non-predictive as far as who is going to be president. We give waaay too much attention to those fucks in Iowa.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 10, 2015 05:51 PM (EDSaA)

455 >>Fuck you, tine-boy.

There is only one.

Posted by: spork at December 10, 2015 05:51 PM (/tuJf)

456 The next President will get enough SC and judicial picks to rule this
country for 1-2 generations, not sure I'm willing to throw that away.
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I agree.

Which is why I am unwilling to support anyone the GOPe can work with.

Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2015 05:51 PM (ZbV+0)

457 The debacle in Britain, where they missed so badly to the left they could not explain how it happened, has a lot of pollsters worried.

The polls are definitely a mess, all the major pollsters are talking about it and concerned. They've been off for years, increasing each year. The last few elections have been just confusing to pollsters.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 05:52 PM (39g3+)

458 super-nerd threw something in me

Posted by: crap-filled lake in San Berdoo at December 10, 2015 05:52 PM (8CdUx)

459 I don't want the Clintons making those choices.
Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:51 PM (MA8Bf)
Too right!

Posted by: Souter & Roberts at December 10, 2015 05:52 PM (FohCt)

460 and one more from wz:

A new poll suggests that a plurality of Americans favor a temporary ban on Muslim immigration like the one proposed by Republican front-runner Donald Trump.

The survey by conservative-leaning Rasmussen Reports found that 46 percent of likely voters would favor a policy preventing Muslim immigrants from entering the country until tighter screening procedures can be implemented, while 40 percent would oppose such a measure.

Among likely Republican voters, 66 percent would support the ban, while 24 percent would oppose it.

Just 30 percent of likely Democratic voters would favor the proposed ban, while 55 percent said they would oppose it.

Those with no party affiliation said they would support the ban by a 45-39 margin.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 05:52 PM (qSIlh)

461 I don't want the Clintons making those choices.
Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:51 PM (MA8Bf)

And?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:53 PM (DUoqb)

462 I'ma vote Trump / Cruz even if the sky falls down.

Don't care; live whatever, dead something else, random bs the media stirs up, right now he is the only candidate that my enemies fear.
Done deal.
Still almost a year to go before it gets real, but right now, hier steh' ich.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 10, 2015 05:53 PM (erRNA)

463
Meanwhile, back at the FBI, fingering Hillary's files...

Posted by: navybrat at December 10, 2015 05:48 PM (Xodlv)








Damn you for using those two words in the same comment.

Damn. You.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2015 05:53 PM (o98Jz)

464 but also this from wz: nothing suspicious here:

A six-car commuter train with 50 passengers left a station without the operator on board. The train traveled through four other stations without stopping. This frightening incident happened in Braintree, Massachusetts.

Kgun9.com reports on how the train was stopped: "MBTA operations disabled the train and brought it to a stop by cutting off power to the electrified third rail".

It is being reported that the train was tampered with. "This train was tampered with, and it was tampered with by someone who knows what he was doing," Governor Charlie Baker said, according to the Boston Globe.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 05:54 PM (qSIlh)

465 A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 66% of
Likely Republican Voters favor a temporary ban on all Muslims entering
the United States until the federal government improves its ability to
screen out potential terrorists from coming here.
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And of course, we can all read between the lines on how long the 66% think the federal government will take to sort out
A) their ass
B) a hole in the ground

Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (ZbV+0)

466 The polls are definitely a mess, all the major pollsters are talking about it and concerned. They've been off for years, increasing each year. The last few elections have been just confusing to pollsters.



Build a website. Give me secure access. Let me vote. Leave me the fuck alone. And I might not fuck with you.

Call me 6 times in two days, call during dinner, wake the baby, etc., anf fuck you, war.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (b2Qci)

467
455 >>Fuck you, tine-boy.

There is only one.

Posted by: spork at December 10, 2015 05:51 PM (/tuJf)







You're both beneath me.

Posted by: Mack the Knife at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (o98Jz)

468 @LPDonovan 2h ago Headline is that Cruz leads in Trump/Carson-less race. Which is true enough, albeit narrowly in a field of 12. Estab-friendly pols get 48%.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (YjDyJ)

469 It's Cruz. If it's not Cruz it will be Trump if it's neither of them I will actively promote Daffy Duck.


Posted by: Ralph at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (nkCeM)

470 hard drive in a lake?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (DUoqb)

471 If you stir your coffee with your dick you can save money on Coffeemate.

Posted by: wth at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (HgMAr)

472 Anyone remember when it the GOPe got Trump to say he would support whoever the nominee would be? He should have got them to say they would support him if he was the nominee.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (6n332)

473 I like how 'conservatives' deny ever advocating for John Roberts.

Who me? Nah never liked the guy. That must have been a different person cheering his nomination.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (iRZl4)

474 >>>It is being reported that the train was tampered
with. "This train was tampered with, and it was tampered with by someone
who knows what he was doing," Governor Charlie Baker said, according to
the Boston Globe.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 05:54 PM (qSIlh)<<<

**hic** Yeah, tampered with. That's the ticket. **hic** **hic**

Posted by: the guy who was driving the train at December 10, 2015 05:56 PM (H9MG5)

475 I don't want the Clintons making those choices.
Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:51 PM (MA8Bf)
Too right!
Posted by: Souter & Roberts

And Reagan nominated Kennedy that gave us gay marriage. Was he a closet gay marriage guy?
Lawyers are lying sacks of shit. At least with a Republican, we have a shot

But hat about Clarence Thomas and Alito? Much better than the alternative.

Why do Democrats get a pass on their horrible nominations we know for certain they will make.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:57 PM (MA8Bf)

476 The train was groomed for an accident.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 05:57 PM (Fa2IA)

477 Crap, Miers woulda been arguably no worse than what we got.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 10, 2015 05:58 PM (erRNA)

478 Self radicalized train.

Posted by: Ozzy at December 10, 2015 05:58 PM (FkBIv)

479 the Guy with the Fabulous Hair speaks!!

Posted by: crap-filled lake in San Berdoo at December 10, 2015 05:58 PM (8CdUx)

480 I can't find where I saw The JEF jab Trump. I thought it was Powerline or The Right Scoop.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 05:58 PM (sj3Ax)

481 Call me 6 times in two days, call during dinner, wake the baby, etc., anf fuck you, war.

Seriously. I get like a half dozen calls from all over the country from either unnamed numbers, just states (ooh, Nevada is calling. The entire state!), and obvious polling organizations. I answer none of them and they don't get the point. They call every damn day.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 05:59 PM (39g3+)

482
472 Anyone remember when it the GOPe got Trump to say he would support whoever the nominee would be? He should have got them to say they would support him if he was the nominee.
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (6n332)



Quite a few of use were pointing out that it's the establishment that goes and runs a third party/write-in campaign, refusal to endorse, or outright backing the democrat when they don't get the nomination and are the ones that need to sign a loyalty oath.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 10, 2015 05:59 PM (z/Ubi)

483 The RINOs find themselves in the minority and they do not like it. They are squeeling like pigs in a poke. They are whiners and bullies.

I am no Ron Paul fan, but his supporters were treated very badly at convention and now the shoe's on the other foot -- now it's the RINOs in the minority.

I noticed this WP article said that TPTB are looking way back to 1976 the last time there was no clear front-runner... um, wth are they talking about? We have a CLEAR front-runner, his name is TRUMP.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 10, 2015 05:59 PM (xetep)

484 I like how 'conservatives' deny ever advocating for John Roberts.

Who me? Nah never liked the guy. That must have been a different person cheering his nomination.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky

_________


lots of revisionist history

I loathe W. Bush, but I have zero doubt the guy thought he was putting another Scalia on the Court.

We get played because lawyers are simply wired to be very liberal, it's rare you meet one that isn't.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:59 PM (MA8Bf)

485 Crap, Miers woulda been arguably no worse than what we got.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 10, 2015 05:58 PM (erRNA)

I had no problem with Miers and think she got a raw deal but Alito was her replacement and he's been pretty solid. It would have been hard for her to be better.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 06:00 PM (iRZl4)

486 The screaming! The scheming! The dreaming!

Hang on, folks, here we go bouncing into Election 2016!

Posted by: WTFO at December 10, 2015 06:00 PM (GxhCK)

487 "Lets say Trump gets the delegates and they steal it from him at the convention"

If the GOP pulls that stunt, I will actively campaign for and vote for whoever the Dems nominate.

Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: Fen at December 10, 2015 06:00 PM (LzTHP)

488 I used to get all sorts of junk calls on the landline.


So I ditched the landline and went with VOIP phone over my Internet.


It's cheap as hell and junk calls have dropped 99.9%.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 06:00 PM (4ErVI)

489 Posted by: Darth Randall at December 10, 2015 05:55 PM (6n332)
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Anyone remember the first 3 times that was asked and answered in the thread?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 06:00 PM (MbrzC)

490 I just realized I was shot a week ago.

Posted by: New victim at December 10, 2015 06:01 PM (FkBIv)

491 Does that mean that a candidate can win a primary in a state, but delegates can withhold their votes if it's not a candidate to their liking?

Posted by: L, Elle who would like Soothsayer unbanned. Please? at December 10, 2015 04:41 PM (2x3L+)


I don't see how a brokered convention where delegates are picking the winners if not at the will of the people they represent

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2015 06:01 PM (7Iwef)

492 Call me 6 times in two days, call during dinner, wake the baby, etc., anf fuck you, war.

Seriously. I get like a half dozen calls from all over the country from either unnamed numbers, just states (ooh, Nevada is calling. The entire state!), and obvious polling organizations. I answer none of them and they don't get the point. They call every damn day.



And yet, pollsters can't quite figure it out......

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2015 06:01 PM (b2Qci)

493 Anyone who's ever wanted to touch Shia LaBeouf's soul, here's your chance!

http://tinyurl.com/hzuo2aw

Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 06:01 PM (zyIlW)

494 Oh come on, John Roberts was considered a slam-dunk (George Tenet style) at the time. Brilliant, young, conservative legal mind that went straight to Chief Justice. Shit.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at December 10, 2015 06:02 PM (ZMZ2g)

495 The polls are definitely a mess, all the major pollsters are talking about it and concerned. They've been off for years, increasing each year. The last few elections have been just confusing to pollsters.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 05:52 PM (39g3+)

Of course they're a mess. How many people do you know who:
1. Have a land line
2. Pick up the phone on that land line when it rings

Traditional polling has become a dinosaur.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 10, 2015 06:02 PM (7v/r5)

496 Ted Cruz for the Supreme Court.

Posted by: MTF at December 10, 2015 06:02 PM (TxJGV)

497 Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:59 PM (MA8Bf)

Never forget, if you pay a lawyer enough, he'll argue either side of a case!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 10, 2015 06:02 PM (ftVQq)

498 re 489: not everyone has the time to read all the comments. Half of us don't even read the content. Anyway, I think I started around 200.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 06:03 PM (qSIlh)

499 http://tinyurl.com/gp5e2gn

Here's my senator Markey, getting beaten up by Mark Steyn & a Climate Denier.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 06:03 PM (sj3Ax)

500 add what didn't show up at 491

sorry,

' if Not for the will of the people they represent.'

if they broker something other it's not representation right?

i'm on a learning curve here

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2015 06:03 PM (7Iwef)

501 FBI presser ongoing - more nuggets about fahookhead

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 06:03 PM (MbrzC)

502 Benghazi Family Hits Back: Hillary Clinton Lied About Us To George Stephanopoulos

Breitbart

She is a disgusting cunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 06:03 PM (DUoqb)

503 Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:12 PM (MA8Bf)

Gee, I dunno, maybe because there have been several polls now showing Trump doing just that! Trump beats Hillary in head-to-heads.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 10, 2015 06:03 PM (xetep)

504 I screen my calls.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 06:04 PM (sj3Ax)

505 Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 06:03 PM (qSIlh)
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two demerits.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 06:04 PM (MbrzC)

506 We get played because lawyers are simply wired to be very liberal, it's rare you meet one that isn't.
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Maybe stop putting lawyers on the courts?

There's no special expertise required to be a judge. If laypeople can't sort out the law (and compare it to the Constitution) then it's no law and should be ignored.

Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2015 06:04 PM (ZbV+0)

507 I screen my calls.
Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 06:04 PM (sj3Ax)


I guess my wife does also? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 06:05 PM (DUoqb)

508 Polling is a mess, but that doesn't mean reality bends to whatever you want it to be. That seems to be what people take away from it.

RealClearPolitics called 49 out of 50 states correctly in 2012 by simply averaging them all together. So I'm not ready to say it's so off that it should be completely ignored.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 06:05 PM (MA8Bf)

509 Any chance the FBI will lean on Huma and that she will finger Hillary?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 06:05 PM (Fa2IA)

510 I often go several days without any incoming calls whatsoever. It's nice.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 06:05 PM (4ErVI)

511 502 Benghazi Family Hits Back: Hillary Clinton Lied About Us To George Stephanopoulos

Breitbart

She is a disgusting cunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 06:03 PM (DUoqb)
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Telling you this is going to eventually turn into Hillary's group eventually claiming she being Benghazi boated. Remember bimbo-war-room, beotch has no shame.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 06:06 PM (MbrzC)

512 re 495: how many people get a call from someone claiming to be taking a public opinion poll are going to admit to a stranger that they own a gun? I mean, I tell them, no guns but lots of pitchforks and burning brimstone and after a moment they become suspicious about all the screaming in the background and they hang up, but that's just me.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 06:06 PM (qSIlh)

513 487
"Lets say Trump gets the delegates and they steal it from him at the convention"



If the GOP pulls that stunt, I will actively campaign for and vote for whoever the Dems nominate.



Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: Fen at December 10, 2015 06:00 PM (LzTHP)

And you know what? Tat would make the damn GOP happy too. The GOP wants Hillary. If they get either Jeb or Rubio vs Hillary, they are win/win no matter what because all three are globalists advancing the SAME agenda. That's why it MUST be Trump. If Trump is knocked out by dirty tricks, he must run indy and we must vote for him over Hill or the GOP.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 10, 2015 06:06 PM (xetep)

514 506 Yep. I work for an atty. I need a new job.

Posted by: Infidel at December 10, 2015 06:06 PM (7tCdZ)

515 509 Any chance the FBI will lean on Huma and that she will finger Hillary?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 06:05 PM (Fa2IA)
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No need to lean on her to have her do that.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 06:06 PM (MbrzC)

516 Nevergiveup,
#503 about Clinton- I agree!

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 06:06 PM (sj3Ax)

517 re 509: oh, barf.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 06:06 PM (qSIlh)

518 510 Me to. The free cruise spoof people are the only ones who ever call.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 06:06 PM (Fa2IA)

519 Trump may not realize this...but he is saving country. Trump just keep doing what you are doing. Don't ever change. He is exposing to every patriotic American that we are being ruled by Davos Men.



Posted by: William Eaton at December 10, 2015 06:07 PM (q52Ma)

520 SMFH, people are weird, i'd say i'm going on my own soul search right now but i'm not asking other people to touch mine, maybe my mind but souls? that seems a long haul for others.

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2015 06:07 PM (7Iwef)

521 Does that mean that a candidate can win a primary in a state, but
delegates can withhold their votes if it's not a candidate to their
liking?
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I'm pretty sure the delegates come from a slate put forward by that candidates campaign, so they don't tend to jump ship (and will move wherever their campaign deals them to)

Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2015 06:07 PM (ZbV+0)

522 >>Any chance the FBI will lean on Huma and that she will finger Hillary?

Phrasing!

Damn.

Posted by: spork at December 10, 2015 06:07 PM (/tuJf)

523 497
Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 05:59 PM (MA8Bf)



Never forget, if you pay a lawyer enough, he'll argue either side of a case!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 10, 2015 06:02 PM (ftVQq)


And if he won't, you can probably find one that will for half that.

Posted by: Trump at December 10, 2015 06:08 PM (3dOE/)

524 *Sees comment at #509*


*throws out dinner*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 06:08 PM (4ErVI)

525 Put Mark Levin app on & they're talking about Farook & a body of water?

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 06:08 PM (sj3Ax)

526 Maybe stop putting lawyers on the courts?

There's no special expertise required to be a judge. If laypeople can't sort out the law (and compare it to the Constitution) then it's no law and should be ignored.
Posted by: Methos

Maybe

But I actually think it's not a crazy concept that the highest court have someone trained in the law. But it has simply become a political branch.

I never dreamed Roberts would fuck us over like that

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 06:09 PM (MA8Bf)

527 Traditional polling has become a dinosaur.

and they're getting more and more desperate, like an addict that can't find any junk.

RealClearPolitics called 49 out of 50 states correctly in 2012 by simply averaging them all together.

They got the general result correct, but the specifics very wrong: percentages.

How'd they do in 2014?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 06:09 PM (39g3+)

528 Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2015 06:04 PM (ZbV+0)

Miers was the closest we've come to recently. She was a lawyer but she was a non Ivy League math major who dealt mostly in business law.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 10, 2015 06:09 PM (iRZl4)

529 She is a disgusting cunt
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2015 06:03 PM (DUoqb)

i am flummoxed why she is even a contender at this point. You'd think dems would be ashamed.
but i guess they're in for the full chaos.

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2015 06:09 PM (7Iwef)

530 The cucksuckers seriously are delusional if they think this is going to be determined by them. Priebus and McConnell should start shopping their resumes around K Street. Priebus is gone after this election, and McConnell has four more years as a taxpayer-funded parasite.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 10, 2015 06:09 PM (pq97T)

531 471

Hints from Heloise!

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at December 10, 2015 06:09 PM (WjXce)

532 Heh willow,

He wants peeps to call him.

Unfortunately, there are those who walk amongst us, who consider talking on the phone with Shia LaBeouf as a life-altering experience.

And these people vote.

Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 06:10 PM (zyIlW)

533 29
Trump/Cruz will be a good ticket.


I said that months ago, but with Trump telling Cruz "I'll get bored after about 6 years and a week. Then I resign and you finish up the term, then run for two of you own. 10 years of Cruz....i would be so happy.

Posted by: Paladin at December 10, 2015 06:10 PM (7UMow)

534 I never dreamed Roberts would fuck us over like that

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 06:09 PM (MA8Bf)
----
I always assume no matter who is is their going to fuck me over at some point, the only question then is trying to figure out what topic it's going to be over\on.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 06:11 PM (MbrzC)

535 The free cruise spoof people are the only ones who ever call.
Posted by: Boss Moss


FREE CRUZ?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at December 10, 2015 06:11 PM (FkBIv)

536 OT: So now they're up to TEN clowns from Minneapolis who've joined or tried to join ISIS.


Clearly, we need some more of these plug-uglies.


http://tinyurl.com/jhz4rtj

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 10, 2015 06:11 PM (oKE6c)

537 And these people vote.
Posted by: SMFH at December 10, 2015 06:10 PM (zyIlW)

ugh, perhaps they will be so busy with soul catching they'll forget to vote.

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2015 06:12 PM (7Iwef)

538 I wasn't that insulted by the idea of nominating Miers.


I WAS insulted by the hysterical, elitist response by the so-called conservative pundit class. The ones who went to Hahvahd and other Ivies lost their fucking minds over the idea of some "plebe" landing on the court.


I think there were some prudent criticisms of the nomination (cronyism, for example), but that's not what they were doing. They lost their fucking minds over it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 10, 2015 06:12 PM (4ErVI)

539 I'd like to believe there are just enough patriots and men with virtue and integrity in the FBI that they can deal with Hillary before she gets too close to the White House.

I'd like to.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 06:12 PM (39g3+)

540 RealClearPolitics called 49 out of 50 states correctly in 2012 by simply averaging them all together.

They got the general result correct, but the specifics very wrong: percentages.

____________________

But polling is not supposed to mean a perfect prediction, just a really educated guess as to what the voters will do

Many of these states came down to 2-3 points, so 49 out of 50 states correctly called is close to perfection in my opinion.

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 06:12 PM (MA8Bf)

541 Levin is on.

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 06:12 PM (sj3Ax)

542 The Establishment can still influence whether there's a brokered convention.

The odds of this should be lower to the extent that primaries are winner take all. Florida for example was made winner take all when Jeb was expected to take it. Now all those delegates will likely got to Trump. But most of the early primaries are not winner take all. My understanding is that the decision on whether a primary is winner take all hasn't been made for a lot of the primaries in the second half of the calendar.

On current trajectory, if we have a lot of winner take all primaries, Trump wins on the first ballot with more than a majority of the delegates. If there are few winner takes all, then Trump might not.

An added complication is that there's a holdover rule from 2012 that requires a candidate to have won a majority of delegates in at least eight states to even have their name be put to that first vote. This rule was put in by the Establishment so that Ron Paul would get no air time at all.

Back in 2008, if states like PA had been winner take all Hillary would have been the nominee, not Obama.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 10, 2015 06:12 PM (r1fLd)

543 536 Let them. The Ruskies will sort them out.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 06:12 PM (Fa2IA)

544 Fun Facts to Know and Tell

Posted by: wth at December 10, 2015 06:13 PM (HgMAr)

545


Why do Trump voters share this delusion that Donald Trump will beat
Hillary? All of the actual evidence shows he does the worst against her
in a head to head contest and that he has the highest negatives.


Polling is a mess, but that doesn't mean reality bends to whatever you want it to be.

heh.




Posted by: Mortimer at December 10, 2015 06:13 PM (hudka)

546 i am flummoxed why she is even a contender at this point. You'd think dems would be ashamed.
but i guess they're in for the full chaos.
Posted by: willow at December 10, 2015 06:09 PM (7Iwef)

It's fear, I think. The Clintons know where the bodies are buried. And aren't above burying a few of their own. Screech has been told that it's "HER TURN", and she's by damn not gonna let anything like scruples or truth or integrity stand in her way.

Posted by: The Original antisocialist-Accept No Substitutes! at December 10, 2015 06:13 PM (cDs+4)

547 It's a mistake to think the people will turn to Cruz. Some here think he's "drafting" Trump like an Indy car. Problem is, the Trump car has at least one lap on him.

Jeb! is toast. Rubio is the GOPe fallback. He's Cuban Obama, and Trump can make mincemeat of him and his record.

Trump is taking a wrecking ball to the edifice of PC, and it's liberating for people to finally be able to talk about the things they've been forced to keep silent about since forever. They are not going to turn around and stab him in the back and vote for someone else who opposes their views.

Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 06:14 PM (VrdxH)

548 "519 Trump may not realize this...but he is saving country. Trump just keep doing what you are doing. Don't ever change. He is exposing to every patriotic American that we are being ruled by Davos Men."

This. It is amazing to think the entire thing is an accident. Even if it is, Trump is a colossus who may have saved the republic--even if he didn't realize it. The first part was blowing up the Republican Party and exposing it as the corrupt cesspool it is. Box checked. The second was making the media his little bitches with their legs splayed. Box checked. The next will be destroying the Democratic establishment, which may be the easiest box checked.

It's an amazing time to be alive. The reckoning has begun.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 10, 2015 06:14 PM (pq97T)

549 oh goody, new thread. something about Kurt Cobain and guns I think, but it was just a glance.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at December 10, 2015 06:14 PM (qSIlh)

550 enough patriots and men with virtue and integrity in the FBI that they can deal with Hillary before she gets too close to the White House.

I'd like to.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 06:12 PM (39g3+)

yeah, that's been the most mind blowing thing about the events of the last 6 plus years, are in most instances we find there are very few with integrity .

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2015 06:14 PM (7Iwef)

551 So now they're up to TEN clowns from Minneapolis who've joined or tried to join ISIS.



My friends, you don't have to be afraid of ISIS near your own house.

Posted by: John McCain at December 10, 2015 06:14 PM (7v/r5)

552 I'd like to believe there are just enough patriots and men with virtue and integrity in the FBI that they can deal with Hillary before she gets too close to the White House.

I'd like to.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

______________________

Even if the FBI stated that Hillary should be prosecuted, all AG Lynch would have to do is say "No" and she won't be charged.

The idea that Obama's Justice Dept will hand the GOP the White House is delusional

It would be a headache for her, but she could overcome it

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 06:14 PM (MA8Bf)

553 Back in 2008, if states like PA had been winner take all Hillary would have been the nominee, not Obama.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 10, 2015 06:12 PM (r1fLd)


Or if the Dems insisted on primary elections everywhere, instead of caucuses, which the Reds gamed so effectively by packing them with other Reds.
See, e.g., California's "non-partisan" redistricting commission. /laughing bitterly

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 10, 2015 06:15 PM (oKE6c)

554 Nood!!

Posted by: Carol at December 10, 2015 06:15 PM (sj3Ax)

555 >>Jeb Bush is endorsed by 27 retired admirals and generals.
Posted by: Jeb!

Too bad they all retired in the 1970s and are suffering from dementia now.

Posted by: Aviator at December 10, 2015 06:16 PM (c7vUv)

556 The Original antisocialist, i don't think the country an ride out another from the left at this point.

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2015 06:16 PM (7Iwef)

557 Romney ran in 2008, but pulled out for lack of support. Romney ran in 2012, but lost for lack of support.
Romney in 2012 means President Hillary. The GOPe is fine with that. Republicans are not.

Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 06:17 PM (VrdxH)

558 >>>Any chance the FBI will lean on Huma and that she will finger Hillary?


Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2015 06:05 PM (Fa2IA)<<<

Hope we don't have to search for printed copies of anything, and wind up looking in Hillary's drawers.

Posted by: FBI investigators at December 10, 2015 06:17 PM (H9MG5)

559
Hints from Heloise!
Posted by: JohnnyBoy
...............................

Always save your plastic bread loaf bags, and use them in public restrooms to slide over the toilet seats for germ protection.

Posted by: wth at December 10, 2015 06:19 PM (HgMAr)

560 Issues about a brokered convention is what Trump means when he says he wants to be treated fairly. If he's close to a majority of delegates and no one else is close, Trump may find that the delegates sent to the convention in his name are Establishment loyalists who will screw Trump over on a second ballot.

If Trump gets 40% of the primary vote and Cruz gets 20% but an Establishment convention picks Jeb it'll be the end of the Republican party as these voters will just stay home.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 10, 2015 06:19 PM (r1fLd)

561 Yup, he's so 'Liberal' the Liberals hate his guts... And call him Hitler...

Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at December 10, 2015 06:19 PM (XpFLm)

562 If Trump got pushed out unfairly, and still managed to run third party (whatever that takes), he might win, rather than handing it to Hillary.

For one thing, his base would be super motivated, and he'd use his celebrity appeal to get the 87% that disapprove of congress, to got out and vote.

For another thing, regular Republicans that felt the establishment had screwed them would turn our for Trump.

Point number C, Trump has crossover appeal, and he'd win some blacks and Hispanics that think Clinton is a treacherous lying witch.

And he'd have his billion dollars to play with, and maybe some donors.

I think the same "populism" that got Trump to this point, might do even better is he splits the vote three ways ... RINOs and Clintonites ... or Trump.

In the three way I guess I'd vote Cruz if they chose him, but otherwise Trump. Open borders is the end of conservative America.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 10, 2015 06:21 PM (26Yu7)

563 "Even if the FBI stated that Hillary should be prosecuted, all AG Lynch would have to do is say "No" and she won't be charged."

True but it might get leaked that a criminal referral was made.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 10, 2015 06:21 PM (r1fLd)

564 He [Trump] will have no trouble with the Criminal Clinton.
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"Mrs. Clinton doesn't belong in a Presidential debate. She belongs in a prison cell."

Posted by: despair at December 10, 2015 06:21 PM (VrdxH)

565 484 I like how 'conservatives' deny ever advocating for John Roberts.

Who me? Nah never liked the guy. That must have been a different person cheering his nomination.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky


It was a mistake to trust anyone in the GOP elite. Many of us did, and we won't make that mistake again.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 10, 2015 06:22 PM (WTbmS)

566 "Even if the FBI stated that Hillary should be prosecuted, all AG Lynch would have to do is say "No" and she won't be charged."

True but it might get leaked that a criminal referral was made.
Posted by: Ignoramus

___________


It will hurt her, but the voters already know Hillary broke the law repeatedly. Not even Democrat media organs like the NY Times pretend otherwise

Posted by: Coolio at December 10, 2015 06:25 PM (MA8Bf)

567 Trump will win this in a walk. He is the type candidate that people vote for in secret. You actually think the Dems love Hillary? You think the Bern wing of the party might not turn out for her coronation? You think there's no chance for another jihadi attack before Election Day?

The middle class is no longer the majority in this country. Highest level of nonparticipation in the workforce since they started keeping records. Even LIV voters can't ignore that. And concern about Trump as commander in chief? I actually remember the Reagan years, when we had all that hand wringing over what that crazy cowboy would do next. When the world is spinning out of control, the last person you'd hand the nukes to is the incompetent that let four Americans die under her watch.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 10, 2015 06:26 PM (Lqy/e)

568 "563 "Even if the FBI stated that Hillary should be prosecuted, all AG Lynch would have to do is say "No" and she won't be charged."

"True but it might get leaked that a criminal referral was made."

It will be more than leaked. Comey will give a post-retirement speech around July, and, oh my. Clinton cultists will be jumping out of buildings. This is why Obama so publicly summonsed Comey to the Oval Office under the pretext of disgust about his "Ferguson effect" remarks.

This is why I'm certain Hillary cannot win and the base has a free hand to bitch slap the GOPe to hell and back this time round and hang the lot of them afterwards.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 10, 2015 06:26 PM (pq97T)

569 I thought he was a good choice. His reversal revealed not his character or judicial theories, but his weakness of character. He lived his entire life to get to that position, and if he thought his career would be stained, he'd do anything to prevent it. That's how they got to him. It was a glaring weakness, but only a monster would take advantage of it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 10, 2015 06:27 PM (39g3+)

570 I don't see Trump running third party. If he were, he'd have to make a move soon else he's have no chance of success. He'd be pissing up to $1 billion away.

If Trump is unfairly pushed out, the Republicans will lose badly if Trump supporters stay home.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 10, 2015 06:27 PM (r1fLd)

571 The whistling past the graveyard is getting more tuneless...

Posted by: Mortimer at December 10, 2015 06:29 PM (hudka)

572 Where's Paulie? Wherever Pribeus is, Ryan is. And whatever independence Paul Ryan had or thought he had will be or has been sucked out by Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: gracepc at December 10, 2015 06:48 PM (OU4q6)

573 I've never seen a Death Ride before, this should be fun to watch.

Posted by: That Guy at December 10, 2015 06:51 PM (m/RW8)

574 Actually still have a copper-wire-circuit landline - as a redundant service; I use voip via my cable co. for 99% of calling, but nice to have a fallback .... next fallback (after cellphones) is a ham radio repeater with phone patch circuit wired through a regional-level hospital.

"When all else fails .... Ham Radio !"

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 10, 2015 06:55 PM (erRNA)

575 Remind me again, these are the same asshats that insisted Trump sign a loyalty pledge, correct?

Posted by: jimparks at December 10, 2015 07:04 PM (ukISj)

576 I love all the concern trolls fapping for the Donald. At best he places third in Iowa. The only states he might win are those that do not require the voter to declare a party in a primary and that will because that hydra headed Queen of the Senior Centers followers will crossover in droves knowing he's the only one she can beat.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at December 10, 2015 07:14 PM (dZGNV)

577 38 20+ huddled Monday w/ Priebus and McConnell


22 dudes sucking each other off is what that is.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk


Why wasn't I invited? Wait, I remember. Monday I was otherwise occupied sukking off 21 other guys.

Posted by: Barky McFukstic at December 10, 2015 07:16 PM (QdAXQ)

578 Palin comes to Trumps defense.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-sarah-palin-just-made-a-major-trump-announcement/

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 07:23 PM (MbrzC)

579 575 Remind me again, these are the same asshats that insisted Trump sign a loyalty pledge, correct?

Posted by: jimparks at December 10, 2015 07:04 PM (ukISj)
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Correct - yet another case of the GOPe saying do as we say... not as we do. People are tried of it.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 10, 2015 07:25 PM (MbrzC)

580 They are going to decide whether the GOP will participate in the National Election or not.

Posted by: Larry Sheldon at December 10, 2015 07:55 PM (Wnr3G)

581 347 I know Trump will lose, and here's why. I'm not voting for him. I'm center right, a fiscal conservative/social moderate/hawk. And I know lots of people like me who "ain't votin' for Trump, no fucking way," including my entire extended family. If you've lost us, you can't win. Period. You only win if you consolidate the Right AND take a majority of independents AND make inroads with moderate Dems. Trump can't even consolidate the Right. I mean, the fact that Trump supporters are routinely denouncing Fox News (!!!) shows how off course they are.

Trump runs as an Independent and gets 8% of the vote. Hillary wins. Trump voters get blamed for the rest of their lives.

C.O.J.U.D.O.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2015 08:05 PM (/m+TI)

582 The establishment doesn't seem to understand that they are making it blatantly obvious they don't care what primary voters think. This level of apathy toward the public is toxic and going to cost them at some point.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at December 10, 2015 08:09 PM (A1Dcl)

583 I love all the concern trolls fapping for the Donald

You are a funny person.

Posted by: Ronster at December 10, 2015 08:20 PM (mUa7N)

584 I've been discussing this with a fellow moron at work (who lurks more than I do), and this is what I think is going to happen next year:

By the time of the convention next year, no one will score the required number of delegates, and the negotiating begins. Trump, Cruz, Rubio, and maybe one or two others will be bunched together at the top. I think Trump will see that he can get only so far and no farther at this point, and will settle for being "kingmaker" rather than keep stumping for the nomination. The GOPe will line up behind Rubio or some lesser candidate, but with enough delegates, the decision will be Trump's to make. At some predetermined point, Trump will bargain with Cruz's camp, and one of them will throw his delegates to the other, and we will have either a Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump ticket.

I'm betting on the latter. Cruz gives Trump the legitimacy he needs, and Trump gives Cruz the populist (and perhaps financial) support he needs. It's a win-win situation.

Posted by: DynamiteDan at December 10, 2015 08:31 PM (BaDMP)

585 So the question (IF the box above the numbers is the actual question), says only "Do you support Trump's proposal to bar Muslims from entering the country." asked 1000 adults

Most that only have heard the outrage are gong to say no, some even if they agree since they don't want to sound racist/bigoted. And as vicious as people are getting, maybe it's not a pollster but a shooter looking for targets.

But they left out "temporarily, till we figure out how to vet them, since ISIS has promised to infiltrate the refugees", which is a pretty big part. And Trump has already said there would be exceptions.

The other poll that said 66% of Rs agree makes more sense, and many prominent people have come out in favor of the general concept, with more ideological and/or geographic terminology.

It is really the use of "all Muslims" that got the nuts screaming "bigot". But it forced open the discussion of the problem: "How do we divine which are the good ones, and which will stay good?" along with "Do we want to take the same route as Paris and London, with their openness and no go zones?"

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 10, 2015 08:40 PM (26Yu7)

586 darn it .. wrong thread sheesh

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 10, 2015 08:41 PM (26Yu7)

587 LOL

Lots of denial in these comments. Lots of Rubio/Bush/Kasich bots pushing the brokered convention angle. First of all, according to current polling, Trump could run the table and get more than enough states. Those upset about his "muslim comments" fail to see the possible greater flood of support coming his way. One or two more (likely) terror attacks may be all it takes to peel off more support. He's almost north of 40% in a 15-person field. Add Cruz as VP and Trump is in the high 50s or low 60s. Add in Carson's dwindling support to either and you see where this is headed.

A third party run is not ideal, but even then Trump would still have a shot. The GOP (Party of Lincoln) will have foolishly impaled itself with its sellouts to the CoC, and it's hard to see any establishment GOP candidate getting close to 15% in a general election. Trump could still possibly edge out Hillary, especially with the drip drip drip of her scandals and when he brands her like he has the GOP field. Plus, he is going to pull a lot of support from union members and African Americans.

And if Trump wins as a third party candidate, the Establishment GOP will be locked out of the process and its politicians die a slow political death. Trump will forge deals with conservative congressman and democrats. Political realignment.

Posted by: Bing Charlie at December 10, 2015 11:15 PM (kwHPo)

588 For you folks hoping and praying for Rubio, here's a wakeup call for you: it's not gonna happen. Establishment manuevering is all about Jeb Bush. He has campaign expenditures paid through the spring. He's not getting out. The brokered convention nonsense is all about installing Jeb Bush. Rubio is simply a vote splitter and place holder for Bush who will kneecap him with ads or with an info leak at the right time.

Support for Rubio is support for Bush, whether you like it or not.

Posted by: Bing Charlie at December 10, 2015 11:27 PM (kwHPo)

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