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2015 is Here, Remain Calm! (and Eat a Cookie) [Y-not]
The ancient Mayan civilization collapsed due to a century-long drought, new research suggests. Minerals taken from Belize's famous underwater cave, known as the Blue Hole, as well as lagoons nearby, show that an extreme drought occurred between A.D. 800 and A.D. 900, right when the Mayan civilization disintegrated. After the rains returned, the Mayans moved north -- but they disappeared again a few centuries later, and that disappearance occurred at the same time as another dry spell, the sediments reveal.Follow the link for some beautiful photos from Belize.
I hope 2015 brings good things -- and just the right amount of rain -- to all of the 'rons and 'ettes.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 01, 2015 01:55 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 01, 2015 01:56 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: no good deed at January 01, 2015 01:56 PM (w3a0Z)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausage Fingers at January 01, 2015 01:57 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Y-not at January 01, 2015 01:58 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2015 01:58 PM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 01, 2015 01:58 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: pep at January 01, 2015 01:59 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausage Fingers at January 01, 2015 01:59 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: pep at January 01, 2015 01:59 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2015 02:00 PM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2015 02:02 PM (u9gzs)
Posted by: tbodie at January 01, 2015 02:02 PM (8oSoU)
Posted by: Y-not at January 01, 2015 02:03 PM (9BRsg)
Hopefully time with soothe the tragedy of losing several guns in a tragic boating accident.
*sniff*
Posted by: CM at January 01, 2015 02:05 PM (+2//H)
Posted by: garrett at January 01, 2015 02:05 PM (P87Ge)
Incidentally, I really like the Tony Hillerman novels, if anybody out there is interested in the history of the Southwest.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at January 01, 2015 02:05 PM (qahv/)
Posted by: tbodie at January 01, 2015 02:06 PM (8oSoU)
The droght theory comes from the eco-Nazis who said that they cut down all the forest land around their area it caused less evaporation and therefore less rain. They don't explain how that couples with the ocean still being there.
The Malthusians say it was overpopulation.
And the list goes on.
But the actual Mayan people did not die off. There are still a lot of them living in Mexico.
Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2015 02:09 PM (u9gzs)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 02:09 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: garrett
HOW DOES THIS HELP ME AND MY KIDS?
Posted by: Michelle Obama, esq at January 01, 2015 02:09 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: wooga at January 01, 2015 02:09 PM (XK0dn)
again a few centuries later, and that disappearance occurred at the
same time as another dry spell, the sediments reveal.
Yep, They moved North. I have four of them that do my yard every Friday.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 01, 2015 02:10 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalas's Hair Gel at January 01, 2015 02:10 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Lauren at January 01, 2015 02:11 PM (MYCIw)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 01, 2015 02:11 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Vic
Really.
When my wife and I visited Chichen Itza, lo those many years ago, the tour guide there was obviously a phenotype for the 'typical' Mayan. Short, round head, etc., etc.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....in the bleak midwinter at January 01, 2015 02:12 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 01, 2015 02:13 PM (XzRw1)
2015 is gonna be a looooooooooooong year of stupid bullshit GOP candidate polls and obama doing evil things.
Posted by: All 2014 Soothsayers Must Go Clearance Sale! at January 01, 2015 02:14 PM (haxo2)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:14 PM (MQEz6)
The CA drought is being caused by the U.S. government using HAARP to keep the radiation from Fukishima from reaching the crops via rain. No rain= less radioactive produce.
/geez, it's like you people never listen to Coast to Coast AM.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 01, 2015 02:15 PM (LeFwz)
Posted by: Scrawny Arms Rob Lowe at January 01, 2015 02:15 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 02:15 PM (DVjiu)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 01, 2015 02:15 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 01, 2015 02:15 PM (jucos)
So, you're saying it had nothing to do with their second-to-last emperor "Dzeyorje Boosh"?
Posted by: Barry "Spock" M'bama at January 01, 2015 02:15 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Fox2! at January 01, 2015 02:15 PM (Wb/pD)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 01, 2015 02:16 PM (lxMIO)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:16 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Fox2! at January 01, 2015 02:16 PM (Wb/pD)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 01, 2015 02:16 PM (fIv/H)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 01, 2015 02:16 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 01, 2015 02:16 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 02:16 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 02:17 PM (vVSOO)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 02:17 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: MikeH at January 01, 2015 02:17 PM (4OZqu)
The Mayans would thrive once they discovered motorcycles.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 01, 2015 02:18 PM (8v9fw)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:18 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 01, 2015 02:18 PM (fIv/H)
The CA drought is being caused by the U.S. government using HAARP to keep the radiation from Fukishima from reaching the crops via rain. No rain= less radioactive produce.
Those bastards!
And Alaska is in on this. I knew Sarah P. was up to no good.
Posted by: tbodie at January 01, 2015 02:18 PM (8oSoU)
A capsizing canoe doesn't quite manage the chaotic majesty of the Szent Istvan.
Posted by: JEM at January 01, 2015 02:19 PM (hRbV/)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 01, 2015 02:19 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:18 PM (MQEz6)
*****
We all know the sacrificial altar is the most dangerous room in the house.
Posted by: Mayan Safety and Health Administration (MSHA) at January 01, 2015 02:20 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 01, 2015 02:20 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2015 02:02 PM (u9gzs)
That was Chicxulub, or however you spell it. And it allegedly killed off the dinosaurs some 65 million years ago. Actually, the drought theory at the link is remarkable, in that it points to natural cycles, and not human sin, as the cause of the drought.
Expect to see more of these sorts of articles, as the AGW scare gets walked back, now that it has been rendered irrelevant by the facts.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 01, 2015 02:21 PM (mtmZ0)
government using HAARP to keep the radiation from Fukishima from
reaching the crops via rain. No rain= less radioactive produce.
/geez, it's like you people never listen to Coast to Coast AM.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 01, 2015 02:15 PM (LeFwz)
Papa Vendette loves Coast to Coast.
Posted by: Vendette at January 01, 2015 02:21 PM (gVaWi)
Posted by: Peter Mayan at January 01, 2015 02:21 PM (BO7YV)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at January 01, 2015 02:21 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: TallDave at January 01, 2015 02:21 PM (bgGGN)
Formerly known as the Chicago Cubs. Now they are the South Bend Cubs. They moved east due to the winning drought. Much like the Mayans.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 01, 2015 02:22 PM (uSAVP)
Posted by: Polanski at January 01, 2015 02:22 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: TallDave at January 01, 2015 02:22 PM (bgGGN)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:18 PM (MQEz6)
*********
We're on this.
Posted by: Dewey, Cheatem and Howe..... Mayan Office at January 01, 2015 02:22 PM (jucos)
Posted by: BignJames at January 01, 2015 02:23 PM (j7iSn)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 01, 2015 02:23 PM (3jmxp)
Never mind, I'll look it up, right after I finish this hot chocolate.
Don't kill the Monarch Butterfly.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 01, 2015 02:23 PM (lxMIO)
Posted by: Quetzocaotl at January 01, 2015 02:23 PM (BO7YV)
What exactly has Neil Degrasse Tyson DONE? I mean, he talks a lot. He's full of opinions. He's a published author and a television host. He's a professor and, presumably, has conducted some research... but what has he actually done with all his smarts and education.
Did he work on a shuttle mission? Did he help design or plan for the landing on Mars?
WHY is he so renowned?
I'll plead ignorance so feel free to mock.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 01, 2015 02:24 PM (ZrDPU)
Posted by: Quetzocaotl at January 01, 2015 02:23 PM (BO7YV)
Inca get to you after a while.
Posted by: MikeH at January 01, 2015 02:24 PM (4OZqu)
Love Hillerman, R.I.P. I think Skin Walkers was the first book I read.
Also, I do not like Oreo cookies; does that make me weird?
Posted by: Joanne at January 01, 2015 02:25 PM (qbNX7)
I think he works the lights at some planetarium.
Posted by: BignJames at January 01, 2015 02:25 PM (j7iSn)
Posted by: America Unearthed Guy at January 01, 2015 02:25 PM (XzRw1)
I'll plead ignorance so feel free to mock.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 01, 2015 02:24 PM (ZrDPU)
I think he's a cheerleader at a planetarium or something.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 01, 2015 02:25 PM (mtmZ0)
Posted by: tbodie at January 01, 2015 02:25 PM (8oSoU)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at January 01, 2015 02:25 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 01, 2015 02:26 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: Havedash at January 01, 2015 02:26 PM (G1XMn)
Posted by: Weasel at January 01, 2015 02:26 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Quetzocaotl at January 01, 2015 02:27 PM (BO7YV)
Hello! I managed to poop without getting very much on myself.
Posted by: Kneel de Asse Tyson at January 01, 2015 02:27 PM (MbqmP)
I'll plead ignorance so feel free to mock.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 01, 2015 02:24 PM (ZrDPU)
I think he's a cheerleader at a planetarium or something.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 01, 2015 02:25 PM (mtmZ0)
He is the Left's Mr. Science.
He does no research, no teaching, books no telescope time, writes no papers.
He is a prop on a stage.
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:27 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: seamrog at January 01, 2015 02:28 PM (86QQc)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 01, 2015 02:24 PM (ZrDPU)
He runs a planetarium.
Seriously that's about it. He's basically been doing that since he got out of college. Some books, head of a the planetary society.
He's basically the politician of science. Previous famous science figures (Feynman, Sagan, even Green) had far more impressive records.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) And father to be bascially any day now! at January 01, 2015 02:28 PM (HDwDg)
the first humanity were devoured by monsters,
the second humanity was turned into monkeys,
the third humanity was turned into turkeys,
and the final one where humanity was turned into fish.
I can't but help take this sort of prophesy seriously.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 02:28 PM (t//F+)
Yes! They are great stories and an interesting view of that culture.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 01, 2015 02:29 PM (ABcz/)
He hosted a Talk Radio show on the weekends for a while called Star Talkers. He had that going for him.
Also, he is a self-absorbed pretentious prick.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 01, 2015 02:29 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:29 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: MikeH at January 01, 2015 02:17 PM (4OZqu)
Okay I can't stop laughing ..........
Posted by: Joanne at January 01, 2015 02:30 PM (qbNX7)
What exactly has Neil Degrasse Tyson DONE? I mean, he talks a lot. He's full of opinions. He's a published author and a television host. He's a professor and, presumably, has conducted some research... but what has he actually done with all his smarts and education.
Did he work on a shuttle mission? Did he help design or plan for the landing on Mars?
WHY is he so renowned?
I'll plead ignorance so feel free to mock.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 01, 2015 02:24 PM (ZrDPU)
You may have to go to a higher source to obtain an answer, such as Barry Soetoro, Al Sharpton, Jessah Jackson, or Oprah.
Posted by: Havedash at January 01, 2015 02:31 PM (G1XMn)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausage Fingers at January 01, 2015 02:31 PM (MbqmP)
I'll plead ignorance so feel free to mock.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 01, 2015 02:24 PM (ZrDPU)
*******
He's Black..... Duh.
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 01, 2015 02:31 PM (jucos)
Posted by: notsothoreau at January 01, 2015 02:31 PM (5HBd1)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 01, 2015 02:31 PM (ABcz/)
Posted by: Lauren at
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Great! Now I have a craving for Salsa Verde...
Posted by: shredded chi at January 01, 2015 02:32 PM (/6AND)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:32 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 01, 2015 02:32 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 01, 2015 02:32 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: rickl at January 01, 2015 02:32 PM (sdi6R)
AZTEC carving was divided into four epochs, each one ended in the end
of humanity:
the first humanity were devoured by monsters,
the second humanity was turned into monkeys,
the third humanity was turned into turkeys,
and the final one where humanity was turned into fish.
I can't but help take this sort of prophesy seriously.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 02:28 PM (t//F+)
So we are nearing the end of the third epoch, by the look of things, with the progressives taking the lead, as usual.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 01, 2015 02:32 PM (mtmZ0)
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 02:32 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at January 01, 2015 02:33 PM (NeFrd)
Feliz ano nuevo, Gringos!
Posted by: Manuel Labor at January 01, 2015 02:33 PM (wAQA5)
He wrote the cross cultural books "The Last of the Mayans" and "Me and My Mayan".
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 02:33 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: seamrog at January 01, 2015 02:33 PM (86QQc)
Posted by: Eromero at January 01, 2015 02:34 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 02:34 PM (DVjiu)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at January 01, 2015 02:33 PM (NeFrd)
The operation was a success but the patient died.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 02:34 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 02:35 PM (vVSOO)
Posted by: Quetzocaotl at January 01, 2015 02:35 PM (BO7YV)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 02:35 PM (DVjiu)
Posted by: Mayan virgin at January 01, 2015 02:35 PM (wAQA5)
18 Rabbit liked it.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 01, 2015 02:36 PM (ABcz/)
Alas, to avail.
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:36 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 01, 2015 02:36 PM (mtmZ0)
He's been useful to the Narrative.
That's usually enough.
Posted by: --- at January 01, 2015 02:36 PM (MMC8r)
I can't but help take this sort of prophesy seriously.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 02:28 PM (t//F+)
The halibut you say
Posted by: MikeH at January 01, 2015 02:36 PM (4OZqu)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 01, 2015 02:37 PM (3jmxp)
Took me by surprise. 48 years old, wife, kid (& another on the way). Fell off a ladder on the 27th. I suppose that's better than cancer or alzheimers.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausage Fingers at January 01, 2015 02:37 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Mayan Obama at January 01, 2015 02:37 PM (qbNX7)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at January 01, 2015 02:38 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Infidel at January 01, 2015 02:39 PM (RCZUF)
Posted by: Havedash at January 01, 2015 02:39 PM (G1XMn)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 01, 2015 02:39 PM (Upt0I)
Posted by: Ponticaing Aztec at January 01, 2015 02:39 PM (wr4LJ)
Deforestation did not help, and the slash and burn agriculture depletes the soil if pursued too hard.
This is not to say that failures also occur from bad policy, bad wars, and changes in technology and resources.
But this sort of thing does leave a mark on a culture and their beliefs.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 02:39 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 01, 2015 02:40 PM (jucos)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:40 PM (MQEz6)
He's the left's biggest Black Hole. Mystery solved!
Posted by: Joanne at January 01, 2015 02:40 PM (qbNX7)
A Mayan wrote the classic song "I Left My Heart In San Francisco".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 01, 2015 02:41 PM (8v9fw)
Posted by: Deep Science Thoughts by Neil deGrasse Tyson at January 01, 2015 02:42 PM (MbqmP)
His mother, Sunchita Marie (née Feliciano) Tyson was a gerontologist of Puerto Rican descent.
Not. Authentic.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 01, 2015 02:43 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:43 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 02:43 PM (DVjiu)
Initially, I thought NDT was a cartoon character on Fox's Family Guy.
Posted by: Fritz at January 01, 2015 02:44 PM (dVmLD)
...and you think hands just happened, by accident?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 01, 2015 02:44 PM (lxMIO)
Except Ross is way more funny and has banged Rachel Green several times . . .
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 02:44 PM (O3k74)
Woah! Wow, like. Wow. Dude. Wait, like, woah.
Posted by: Deep Science Thoughts by Neil deGrasse Tyson at January 01, 2015 02:46 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Snicklefritz at January 01, 2015 02:46 PM (Moh0M)
Posted by: Deep Science Thoughts by Neil deGrasse Tyson at January 01, 2015 02:48 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 02:48 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: Sunchita at January 01, 2015 02:48 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: PaleRider at January 01, 2015 02:49 PM (7w/kf)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 02:49 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Quetzocaotl at January 01, 2015 02:50 PM (lejgm)
I thought Louie Nye was smarter.
Posted by: BignJames at January 01, 2015 02:51 PM (j7iSn)
Posted by: Deep Science Thoughts by Neil deGrasse Tyson at January 01, 2015 02:51 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Deep Science Thoughts by Neil deGrasse Tyson II at January 01, 2015 02:52 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 02:52 PM (DVjiu)
Posted by: Baldy at January 01, 2015 02:52 PM (+35FH)
"And here's the shoebox, where we go when we don't play well with others."
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:52 PM (MQEz6)
When my kids were little, we used to watch Bill Nye the Science Guy.
That effeminate bow tied commie is a regular on the number one sitcom Big Bang Theory. I stopped watching it after his first appearance.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 01, 2015 02:52 PM (XzRw1)
Posted by: Eromero at January 01, 2015 02:54 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 02:49 PM (60Vyp)
Bill Nye couldn't science his way out of a tub of bong water, dude.
Posted by: Deep Science Thoughts by Neil deGrasse Tyson at January 01, 2015 02:54 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 02:56 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 02:57 PM (MQEz6)
Science, bitches.
Posted by: Deep Science Thoughts by Neil deGrasse Tyson at January 01, 2015 02:57 PM (MbqmP)
When the evil European imperialist Cortez was setting up for the final assault on the Aztec capital Tenochtitlan, his men comprised only 5% of the army that was assembled. The others came from the surrounding tribes.
Pretty much everyone in Central America HATED the Aztecs and wanted them gone.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 02:57 PM (DVjiu)
Hell of a way to have to make a living.Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 01, 2015 02:58 PM (6fyGz)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 02:58 PM (vVSOO)
Posted by: Sabrina Rubin Erdely at January 01, 2015 02:59 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: Infidel at January 01, 2015 03:00 PM (RCZUF)
Posted by: Vendette at January 01, 2015 03:00 PM (gVaWi)
I'll tell you why.
Rape culture.
Posted by: Sabrina Rubin Erdely at January 01, 2015 02:59 PM (9GG/0) They used up all their virgins.
Posted by: tbodie at January 01, 2015 03:00 PM (8oSoU)
palindrone?
Posted by: BignJames at January 01, 2015 03:01 PM (j7iSn)
High School:
The Bronx High School of Science
Bronx, New York
Astrophysics Emphasis: June 1976
obtained at: http://www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/curriculum-vitae#education
"Astrophysics Emphasis" in HIGH SCHOOL!?!?!
Really!!!
The asshole is strong in this one!!
He ranks right up there with my postdoc advisor who put on his CV a list of papers he'd like to publish in the future.
Oh, and this Bill Neye guy is not a scientist as he likes to claim, he's got a masters in some engineering field. Nothing against engineers or engineering, but call yourself what you are.
Posted by: Deep Science Thoughts by Neil deGrasse Tyson II at January 01, 2015 03:01 PM (O3k74)
Pretty much everyone in Central America HATED the Aztecs and wanted them gone.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 02:57 PM (DVjiu)
You mean 300 guys with blunderbusses (or whatever muzzle-loaders they had) didn't conquer an empire of a million by themselves? Don't tell that to La Raza, or any lefty, even though surely it was obvious just from common sense.
A million Aztecs charge 300 Spaniards with blunderbusses. Upshot: 999,700 Aztecs, and 0 Spaniards. End of conflict.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 03:02 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 03:04 PM (vVSOO)
palindrone?
Posted by: BignJames at January 01, 2015 03:01 PM (j7iSn)
Isn't he on the Death Star?
Posted by: Han Solo at January 01, 2015 03:05 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: Infidel at January 01, 2015 03:00 PM (RCZUF)
We can commiserate together. The bastiches just want our money.
GGE! Congrats on the expected Navy fan!
Posted by: Vendette at January 01, 2015 03:00 PM (gVaWi)
That was a pretty cool Christmas text.
Middle Daughter says she wants a little redheaded girl.Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 01, 2015 03:05 PM (6fyGz)
Same here, but I put a stop to it because of the show's format. Nye would spend about 30 seconds on one topic, then switch to another, then a third, then bounce back to the first one. I felt this was encouraging my kids to have short attention spans, which I didn't want for them.
That and his constant yawping about evolution. That got very wearisome.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 03:05 PM (DVjiu)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c)
Well, that was the plan, anyway.
Posted by: Boudicca at January 01, 2015 03:05 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 01, 2015 03:06 PM (XzRw1)
Pretty much everyone in Central America HATED the Aztecs and wanted them gone.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 02:57 PM (DVjiu)
You mean 300 guys with blunderbusses (or whatever muzzle-loaders they had) didn't conquer an empire of a million by themselves? Don't tell that to La Raza, or any lefty, even though surely it was obvious just from common sense.
A million Aztecs charge 300 Spaniards with blunderbusses. Upshot: 999,700 Aztecs, and 0 Spaniards. End of conflict.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c)
Gang bangers back then too
Posted by: Han Solo at January 01, 2015 03:06 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c
********
Heh
Posted by: General George Custer at January 01, 2015 03:06 PM (jucos)
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
He must have been out sick when the class went over Thermodynamics and basic physics.
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 03:07 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 03:07 PM (vVSOO)
Posted by: Infidel at January 01, 2015 03:07 PM (RCZUF)
Pretty much everyone in Central America HATED the Aztecs and wanted them gone.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 02:57 PM (DVjiu)
You mean 300 guys with blunderbusses (or whatever muzzle-loaders they had) didn't conquer an empire of a million by themselves? Don't tell that to La Raza, or any lefty, even though surely it was obvious just from common sense.
A million Aztecs charge 300 Spaniards with blunderbusses. Upshot: 999,700 Aztecs, and 0 Spaniards. End of conflict.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c)
We had horses. 'Nuf said.
Posted by: Cortez at January 01, 2015 03:07 PM (O3k74)
Their explanation for this is feeble and my answer is "no".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 01, 2015 03:08 PM (Dj3AB)
Really!!!
The asshole is strong in this one!!
He ranks right up there with my postdoc advisor who put on his CV a list of papers he'd like to publish in the future.
Oh, and this Bill Neye guy is not a scientist as he likes to claim,
he's got a masters in some engineering field. Nothing against engineers
or engineering, but call yourself what you are.
Posted by: Deep Science Thoughts by Neil deGrasse Tyson II at January 01, 2015 03:01 PM (O3k74)
Spot on, on all counts.
Plus, look at Tyson's publication list: half a dozen or so papers? In his life? And the more recent ones (the "overviews" published in the "supplement") are apparently just "year in review" shit, not original papers.
Here I was thinking he'd actually done something in the field. Sheesh.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:09 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Infidel at January 01, 2015 03:07 PM (RCZUF)
He'll be very popular with the lasses. Their fathers on the other hand . . .
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:10 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: Electro Monkey at January 01, 2015 03:10 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Fritz at January 01, 2015 03:11 PM (dVmLD)
were sort of a birthday gift on her 18th birthday. They still look good
to me.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 03:07 PM (vVSOO)
Huh. All I got was a pair of socks.
Ah, a ginger. That can be dangerous. Grandson infidel is a ginger. Yikes. Turns 14 in March.
Posted by: Infidel at January 01, 2015 03:07 PM (RCZUF)
Her Mom was a soul-less ginger, too. Or as Al Bundy put it, evil red-headed life sucking mosquito. But she was a lot of fun. I'll have to find another one some day.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 01, 2015 03:11 PM (6fyGz)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c)
We had horses. 'Nuf said.
Posted by: Cortez at January 01, 2015 03:07 PM (O3k74)
I stand corrected.
A million Aztecs charge 300 Spaniards with blunderbusses and on horseback. Upshot: 999,700 Aztecs, 0 Spaniards, and 0 horses. End of conflict.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:11 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Y-not at January 01, 2015 03:12 PM (9BRsg)
blunderbusses and on horseback. Upshot: 999,700 Aztecs, 0 Spaniards, and
0 horses. End of conflict.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:11 PM (oKE6c)
Surely they would have tried to keep the horses...at least a few of them. Or, given the terrain, maybe not...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 01, 2015 03:12 PM (6fyGz)
Nah, these drought claims pop up every few years, then the evidence gets a hard look and then, quietly, it falls apart.
Posted by: Keith Eppich at January 01, 2015 03:13 PM (V72vb)
Posted by: Snicklefritz at January 01, 2015 03:13 PM (Moh0M)
Posted by: Infidel at January 01, 2015 03:13 PM (RCZUF)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c)
We had horses. 'Nuf said.
Posted by: Cortez at January 01, 2015 03:07 PM (O3k74)
I stand corrected.
A million Aztecs charge 300 Spaniards with blunderbusses and on horseback. Upshot: 999,700 Aztecs, 0 Spaniards, and 0 horses. End of conflict.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:11 PM (oKE6c)
Heh!!
Spot on!!
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:14 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: Joey Choo Choo at January 01, 2015 03:14 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Keith Eppich at January 01, 2015 03:13 PM (V72
Perhaps Detroit can help their analysis.
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 03:15 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Snicklefritz at January 01, 2015 03:13 PM (Moh0M)
Be wery quite! I'm hunting Mayans.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:15 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: General George Custer at January 01, 2015 03:15 PM (jucos)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:16 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: General George Custer at January 01, 2015 03:15 PM (jucos)
Or tying the barrel in a knot.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:16 PM (oKE6c)
Bill Nye has a Master's degree in Mechanical Engineering.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Yeah well. Screw you.
Posted by: Howard Wolowitz at January 01, 2015 03:17 PM (XzRw1)
Nah, daddy is a ginger. Mom is a blond. He's turning into a real
hellion. He's always wanted to go into the military. G'ma is not so
sure anymore. The world will be a totally different place in 4 years.
Posted by: Infidel at January 01, 2015 03:13 PM (RCZUF)
I mean Middle Daughter's mom, Middle Daughter is a blondie (her brother, Eldest Son, is a soul-less ginger, too). Her first child is a little redheaded boy that they named Daemion, I keep telling them the kid didn't have any choice, he HAS to be evil.
If she gets a little redheaded girl she will probably name her after her mom.Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 01, 2015 03:18 PM (6fyGz)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 03:18 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Snicklefritz at January 01, 2015 03:18 PM (Moh0M)
Posted by: Fritz at January 01, 2015 03:11 PM (dVmLD)
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Yes.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 01, 2015 03:19 PM (A98Xu)
True?
If so then that explains it.
No wheel, no continuation past the Stone Age.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:19 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: Infidel at January 01, 2015 03:19 PM (RCZUF)
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 03:18 PM (MQEz6)
Battle of the Bands, full contact edition.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:19 PM (oKE6c)
Guys like Michael Mann are spreadsheet jockeys, they are so many levels removed from the methods and tools of data collection that they simply do not understand the weaknesses of what they're coming up with.
I'd regard Nye as a bit of an outlier, the kind of exception that proves the rule - those in the 'hard' engineering and science disciplines, where you live instrumentation and testing and where getting something wrong kills people or at least puts a billion-dollar rocket in the wrong orbit - tend to be skeptics.
Posted by: JEM at January 01, 2015 03:19 PM (o+SC1)
True?
If so then that explains it.
No wheel, no continuation past the Stone Age.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:19 PM (O3k74)
They did come up with popcorn and maple syrup.
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 03:20 PM (MQEz6)
Rabbit Season!
Duck Season!
Rabbit Season!
Duck Season!
Rabbit Season!
Rabbit Season!
Duck Season! Fire!
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:22 PM (O3k74)
You see, that's because the requisite materials were not to hand in the Americas. Nothing round exists there. Otherwise, they'd have had a space program by the time Columbus landed.
Posted by: Jared Diamond, PC Apologist Extraordinaire at January 01, 2015 03:22 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c)
I read Bernal Diaz' Conquest of New Spain, and never before have I wanted so badly for both sides to loose.
I also thought there were a couple of points where Cortez could have been wiped out but the the Aztecs couldn't get the concept of total war into their heads, they were too invested in the traditional warfare methods.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 03:22 PM (t//F+)
Guys like Michael Mann are spreadsheet jockeys, they are so many levels removed from the methods and tools of data collection that they simply do not understand the weaknesses of what they're coming up with.
I'd regard Nye as a bit of an outlier, the kind of exception that proves the rule - those in the 'hard' engineering and science disciplines, where you live instrumentation and testing and where getting something wrong kills people or at least puts a billion-dollar rocket in the wrong orbit - tend to be skeptics.
Posted by: JEM at January 01, 2015 03:19 PM (o+SC1)
Yup. Nothing brings down the humility hammer like real data.
Posted by: eman at January 01, 2015 03:23 PM (MQEz6)
Uhhh, that calendar looks round to me, dude.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 01, 2015 03:23 PM (uSAVP)
Also, "Heart and Soul."
It was only logical.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 01, 2015 03:23 PM (Wb/pD)
Well, he did take a dump in the field behind the planetarium once. Other than that - meh.
Posted by: Aviator at January 01, 2015 03:23 PM (3rrMW)
"Clocks on the Prime Meridian track GMT - Greenwich Mean Time. As kid, I always wanted there to be GHT - Greenwich Happy Time."
"Although clocks on the Prime Meridian keep "Universal Time", I'm quite sure Aliens across the actual universe don't care."
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausage Fingers at January 01, 2015 03:23 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Snicklefritz at January 01, 2015 03:25 PM (Moh0M)
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 01, 2015 03:25 PM (XzRw1)
I guess they never let their kids play with that calendar thing long enough to learn from them.
Posted by: JEM at January 01, 2015 03:26 PM (o+SC1)
So I go online to get the expert opinion which says, '20% chance of snow around half an inch expected by 9 pm",
The radar shows this big blotch of snow falling, outside It's snowing about 3 inches (or more) of accumulation per hour and I struggle to do the math.
Ya, no sense in plowing the drive while it's snowing. I mean, what's the point?
I mean, without experts and technology how could anyone survive these conditions? It's strangely quiet out on the highway. Too quiet.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 01, 2015 03:26 PM (lxMIO)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 03:26 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausage Fingers at January 01, 2015 03:23 PM (MbqmP)
Unless they have twelve fingers.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 01, 2015 03:26 PM (W5DcG)
It's not so much the shape, as the functionality. If your greatest load bearing capability is a travois, you aren't going to carry as much as a cart. Or a wagon.
Never mind the difference in carrying capacity between a llama and a horse. Or even a donkey.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 01, 2015 03:26 PM (Wb/pD)
Uhhh, that calendar looks round to me, dude.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 01, 2015 03:23 PM (uSAVP)
Yes, but chariots or carts or wagons . . .
Let me rephrase: wheel and axle.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:26 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 03:27 PM (DVjiu)
removed from the methods and tools of data collection that they simply
do not understand the weaknesses of what they're coming up with.
I'd regard Nye as a bit of an outlier, the kind of
exception that proves the rule - those in the 'hard' engineering and
science disciplines, where you live instrumentation and testing and
where getting something wrong kills people or at least puts a
billion-dollar rocket in the wrong orbit - tend to be skeptics.
Posted by: JEM at January 01, 2015 03:19 PM (o+SC1)
I think you're being pretty charitable to Mann, whom I suspect knows perfectly well he's pushing rubbish.
As for Nye, every principal investigator has the occasional weak student, the intellectual runt of the litter. Most PIs try to gently steer said runt into some other endeavor where he can get by (kinda like steering Woody Allen away from his dream of a career in MMA).
I suspect that's what happened with Nye, and Tyson also, for that matter.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:27 PM (oKE6c)
205 I heard that no civilization in South America, or North America for that matter, invented the wheel.
True?
If so then that explains it.
No wheel, no continuation past the Stone Age.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:19 PM (O3k74)
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I've pondered that as well. I don't seem to remember any culture in the Americas having invented the wheel. To me that explains tons in the differences in cultures between the European/Mediterranean cultures and the level of civilization in the New World.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 03:28 PM (vVSOO)
They're all new to me.
Posted by: Carol at January 01, 2015 03:28 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c
********
Heh
Posted by: General George Custer at January 01, 2015 03:06 PM (jucos)
Repeating rifles, motherfucker. Do you speak it?
Posted by: Crazy Horse at January 01, 2015 03:29 PM (sdi6R)
I'm watching The Twilight Zone marathon. I don't remember them like some
people. I was watching one in living room my friend was in
kitchen telling me what was going to happen.
They're all new to me.
If you travel to DC, you can experience it real time.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 01, 2015 03:30 PM (XzRw1)
any culture in the Americas having invented the wheel. To me that
explains tons in the differences in cultures between the
European/Mediterranean cultures and the level of civilization in the New
World.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 03:28 PM (vVSOO)
Or writing, IIRC. Same with sub-Saharan Africa, I believe.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:30 PM (oKE6c)
Also, there's no need for technological innovation when all of the grunt work gets shoved off on slaves. A society build on slavery is a backwards society.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2015 03:30 PM (DVjiu)
Hrm, this weblog seems to back that: http://tcmam.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/did-pre-columbian-mesoamericans-use-wheels/
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausage Fingers at January 01, 2015 03:30 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 03:31 PM (60Vyp)
I've seen native American cave drawings in AZ and NM. My 3 yo nephew could do better with a crayon and a piece of cardboard.
Posted by: Thin veneer of civility at January 01, 2015 03:32 PM (XzRw1)
PBS went looking for a token for their latest stab at pop Sci.
Thanks to George Bush, he was visible and took the job.
The rest is Infotainment History.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 01, 2015 03:32 PM (RZzX3)
That said, I'm not sure how you say 'Junior, go get a core dump from Grandpa before he croaks, will you?' in Aztec.
Posted by: JEM at January 01, 2015 03:33 PM (o+SC1)
They're all new to me.
Posted by: Carol at January 01, 2015 03:28 PM (sj3Ax)
One of my favorites is "The 7th Is Made Up Of Phantoms". Light tank crew on maneuvers ends up at the Battle of the Little Big Horn.
They shoulda brought the tank.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:33 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: Y-not at January 01, 2015 03:33 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Vendette at January 01, 2015 03:33 PM (gVaWi)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 03:34 PM (vVSOO)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausage Fingers at January 01, 2015 03:34 PM (MbqmP)
Posted by: Crazy Horse at January 01, 2015 03:29 PM (sdi6R)
Arrogance, narcissism and stupidity kinda helped there tonto.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 01, 2015 03:35 PM (RZzX3)
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 01, 2015 03:36 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Vendette at January 01, 2015 03:37 PM (gVaWi)
Thanks. Didn't know that.
Meanwhile, I'm reading a history of mathematics. The Greeks had spherical trigonometry ca. 500 B.C. (for astronomy). They apparently had spherical trigonometry before plane trigonometry (amazing, if true). They had methods for calculating the volume of closed figures of revolution, too.
Kinda makes coming up with the wheel look like small beer, doesn't it?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:37 PM (oKE6c)
With that, the argument goes, the wheel is not important and the intermediary steps to making wheel-friendly roads or not depending solely on infantry are not important enough to spend time on.
Remember, the Myceneans did not rely on the wheel, even though they were at a higher tech level than the Aztecs, but the Hittites and Egyptians did. Greece is rocky with few plains, Anatolia and Persia and Egypt have lots of flat areas.
Greece had a history of infantry, the Hittites (and successors) and Egyptians had chariots. Even so, the main driver of the use of the wheel is military. Even the Romans only used wheeled transport sparingly, relying on mules and donkeys, ships and slaves to transport goods.
So, without a reason to promote a technology and the lack of a means to exploit it, the pre-colombian cultures didn't waste time on it.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 03:37 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 01, 2015 03:38 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Crazy Horse at January 01, 2015 03:29 PM (sdi6R)
Arrogance, narcissism and stupidity kinda helped there tonto.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 01, 2015 03:35 PM (RZzX3)
IIRC, the Indians actually were better armed than the 7th Cavalry, which did not have repeating rifles yet.
And now, never will.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:38 PM (oKE6c)
Many Mayans couldn't breathe and thus died.
About a million or so were shot or choked.
Posted by: Black Lives are Matter at January 01, 2015 03:39 PM (y2uId)
Custer left his gatling guns behind for speed. He chose ... poorly.
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 01, 2015 03:39 PM (rwI+c)
Maybe because Islam dominated the ME and most of the African continent, and especially the trading kingdoms were busy exporting slaves.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 03:41 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 01, 2015 03:41 PM (1sg14)
Posted by: toby928(C) at January 01, 2015 03:41 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Trunk Monkey at January 01, 2015 03:41 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 01, 2015 03:41 PM (4IFRz)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 01, 2015 03:42 PM (lxMIO)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 03:34 PM (vVSOO)
I've wondered about that, too. Doesn't make sense, does it, unless the bruthas were just dumb shits. No writing, no literature, no philosophy, no mathematics, no ships, no serious buildings or technology to speak of ... what the hell were they doing there all that time? Did no one ever visit Egypt and return?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:42 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 03:44 PM (60Vyp)
Mandatory: Grandbaby update!!!
Posted by: Vendette at January 01, 2015 03:45 PM (gVaWi)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 01, 2015 03:42 PM (lxMIO)
As a history buff, I've always wanted to do that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:45 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Black Lives are Matter at January 01, 2015 03:39 PM (y2uId)
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The bullshitery around here makes me laugh, out loud, or LOL if you're a fourteen year old girl which maybe I am, maybe I'm not.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 01, 2015 03:45 PM (A98Xu)
With all of the technological advances in the ME and NE Africa, why didn't all of that knowledge spread to the west and south of Africa? What was the disconnect?
Posted by: Old Blue at January 01, 2015 03:34 PM (vVSOO)
The Sahara Desert was a pretty big barrier between the northern part of Africa and the interior.
Posted by: rickl at January 01, 2015 03:46 PM (sdi6R)
And in at least two instances that I know of actually manipulated the data.
Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2015 03:46 PM (u9gzs)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:30 PM (oKE6c)
Aztecs Mixtecos and Mayans used a system of ideoglyphs, and extensively used a paper made out of the maguey leaf (the same you get pulque from)
The Spanish Clergy aparently burned all of them in the conquests, some Mixteco ones remain
http://www.ancientscripts.com/mixtec.html
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 03:46 PM (t//F+)
With that, the argument goes, the wheel is not important and the intermediary steps to making wheel-friendly roads or not depending solely on infantry are not important enough to spend time on.
Remember, the Myceneans did not rely on the wheel, even though they were at a higher tech level than the Aztecs, but the Hittites and Egyptians did. Greece is rocky with few plains, Anatolia and Persia and Egypt have lots of flat areas.
Greece had a history of infantry, the Hittites (and successors) and Egyptians had chariots. Even so, the main driver of the use of the wheel is military. Even the Romans only used wheeled transport sparingly, relying on mules and donkeys, ships and slaves to transport goods.
So, without a reason to promote a technology and the lack of a means to exploit it, the pre-colombian cultures didn't waste time on it.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 03:37 PM (t//F+)
Wheelbarrows?
Pulleys?
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:47 PM (O3k74)
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 01, 2015 03:41 PM (1sg14)
Keep going.
Posted by: Vendette at January 01, 2015 03:47 PM (gVaWi)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 01, 2015 03:42 PM (lxMIO)
It is a goal of mine.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:49 PM (O3k74)
...So, without a reason to promote a technology and the lack of a means to exploit it, the pre-colombian cultures didn't waste time on it.
Posted by: Kindltot
They never fully explored the use of Gerbils and Hamsters. The 50 Gerbil teams initially got tangled in the reins and they dropped that technology.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at January 01, 2015 03:49 PM (NHtMs)
Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2015 03:49 PM (u9gzs)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 03:44 PM (60Vyp)
One I found on Project Gutenberg. I'm now reading this one: https://archive.org/details/ahistoryofmathem31061gut
with this one in the on-deck circle:
https://archive.org/details/ashortaccountoft31246gut
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 03:49 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Eromero at January 01, 2015 03:49 PM (go5uR)
How's things with you? Go Blackhawks!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 03:50 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Y-not at January 01, 2015 03:50 PM (9BRsg)
Posted by: Y-not at January 01, 2015 03:33 PM (9BRsg)
But do they care?Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausage Fingers at January 01, 2015 03:34 PM (MbqmP)I had to explain to Mrs. Tbodie why the sudden LOL.
Posted by: tbodie at January 01, 2015 03:50 PM (8oSoU)
Haha! That reminds me of this one time when I was drunk...
Posted by: Richard Gere at January 01, 2015 03:51 PM (MbqmP)
258 If you are ever out that way, stop at Custer's Battlefield and take
the tour. As the experts like to say, the map is not the terrain.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 01, 2015 03:42 PM (lxMIO)
It is a goal of mine.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:49 PM (O3k74)
And do NOT let them see you picking up anything of the battlefield.
Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2015 03:51 PM (u9gzs)
Then they briefly tried teams of lemmings but you can guess what a disaster that turned out to be.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 01, 2015 03:51 PM (4IFRz)
up but not quite taking steps. And her Dr Suess collection is growing
almost as fast!
How's things with you? Go Blackhawks!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 03:50 PM (60Vyp)
For those of us without excellent TVs, the Blackhawks' part of the score is blocked.
Dr. Suess is great for a 2nd-grader's reading, which I learned while at home for Christmas.
If you have the NHL Network, watch the World Junior Hockey Championships, especially tomorrow, when there are 3 games televised.
Posted by: Vendette at January 01, 2015 03:55 PM (gVaWi)
Posted by: thathalfrican at January 01, 2015 03:57 PM (1sg14)
Pulleys?
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 01, 2015 03:47 PM (O3k74)
wheelbarrows did not make it to Europe from China until the middle-ages, prior to that were just stretchers that two people had to carry. And the initial use of wheels are for transportation of heavy loads and using the speed of horses, generally for warfare.
And pulleys may well be an outgrowth of wheel technology, not a separate creation. The one possibility of a separate creation of the pulley might have been a metal sleeve that went over an axle to allow less friction when using it to pull over, but that would require a higher metal technology than the pre-colombian societies had. They were up to casting gold and silver and copper, and used it for decorations, and in one place by the Incas to cast cramps to hold together stones in a foundation. You would need Bronze, and a cheap source of bronze as well.
And gerbils are from Mongolia, and the Mongols did use them until they found that there were better ways to get their jollies.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 03:58 PM (t//F+)
prior to that were just stretchers that two people had to carry. And
the initial use of wheels are for transportation of heavy loads and
using the speed of horses, generally for warfare.
Interestingly, the rickshaw was invented by a 19th century American (doctor, IIRC) in Japan, who used it to transport his invalid wife.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 01, 2015 04:01 PM (oKE6c)
I had to go to DC for a meeting, along with my boss, 20+ years ago. We didn't spend the night. We went to clients office, they took us out to lunch & we took scenic route back to the airport. I don't remember if one drove us or if we took taxi to the airport.
Funny thing is, I do remember what I wore.
Posted by: Carol at January 01, 2015 04:02 PM (sj3Ax)
"Get off my snow, you bastards."
They pack the snow in the driveway and the snow thrower goes all kittywompus and won't dig it out. Too much of a struggle for an old man. [shakes fist]
"I'll get my shotgun, you bastards!"
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 01, 2015 04:04 PM (lxMIO)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 01, 2015 04:07 PM (60Vyp)
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Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 01, 2015 04:09 PM (lxMIO)
Best example of that is the whippletree.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 01, 2015 04:16 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: Bob Belcher at January 01, 2015 04:19 PM (3jmxp)
Posted by: PaleRider at January 01, 2015 04:20 PM (7w/kf)
to the fullest. We just got a call letting us know my Dad's friend
passed away last night. He was in his sixties, no major health
struggles that I know of. What a shock.
Posted by: PaleRider at January 01, 2015 04:20 PM (7w/kf)
Prayers.
My dad is 69. Friends and schoolmates are passing away. He is cognizant of his own mortality.
Posted by: Vendette at January 01, 2015 04:23 PM (gVaWi)
Also, wasn't the whipple-tree developed in the middle-ages? At least post Babylon, which puts it after the development of algebra in Ur and Egypt?
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 04:26 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Kindltot at January 01, 2015 04:29 PM (t//F+)
Posted by: Carol at January 01, 2015 04:29 PM (sj3Ax)
I haven't seen you on same thread in awhile. I hope you had Merry Christmas & Happy New Year.
Posted by: Carol at January 01, 2015 04:31 PM (sj3Ax)
Vendette,
I haven't seen you on same thread in awhile. I hope you had Merry Christmas Happy New Year.
Posted by: Carol at January 01, 2015 04:31 PM (sj3Ax)
Same to you! I was at home, so didn't post much.
Posted by: Vendette at January 01, 2015 04:33 PM (gVaWi)
Some days I can barely go away from here, other days I stay away because I spend too much time here.
I hope you had a good trip.
Posted by: Carol at January 01, 2015 04:45 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: rickl at January 01, 2015 04:49 PM (sdi6R)
Putin is the only one.
The logic extension to "rape culture" is that our government is a rapist and must seek positive consent from the citizens.
Since you can't confirm positive consent, it should be impossible for the government to do anything.
Our civil liberties are being "raped" by the FBI and NSA, with Obama as the "Rapist-in-Chief".
It's 2015 and time to stop pushing back and pull this bad boy all the way through ...
Embrace the Horror of "rape culture"
Posted by: #RapeCulture at January 01, 2015 05:59 PM (e8kgV)
https://www.academia.edu/219041/The_chariots_of_Ahhiyawa
I'm less sure about the Minoans.
Posted by: boulder terlit ancient-med-civ major at January 01, 2015 07:04 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 01, 2015 07:05 PM (AVEe1)
Posted by: Tina at January 03, 2015 06:46 PM (rKEiy)
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