Senate Democrat Report on Torture Is Firm On Key Finding That Senate Democrats Never Heard Anything About This "Torture" Business

The Democrats are, get this, lying about what they knew, and what they authorized, in the aftermath of 9/11.

I lived through that -- as did all of you -- and I remember that the nation was divided into two camps on using very harsh measures to make sure this didn't happen again:

Those who vocally approved of such harsh measures, and those who silently approved.

But Democrats pretend to be Tough on National Security only for a cycle or two, the 2-4 years necessary to ride out the nation's turn towards a more muscular foreign policy; then they begin lying about their previous lies (when they claimed they were totes in favor of hounding Al Qaeda to the Gates of Hell) and were always for "smart power" or whatever other euphemism they wish to employ for national weakness and submission to totalitarian Islamism.

And so it goes. The Senate Democrat report actually lets the Bush Administration off the hook, which isn't all that weird, when you consider that if they squealed on the rightward part of the Political Class, that part of the Political Class would squeal on the leftward part, and that of course is what the Senate Democrats want to avoid at all costs.

It's okay to have another 9/11, maybe, but they will avoid responsibility at all costs.

"So many people knew what was going on. This wasn't a program that was over one or two weeks in a couple of dark sites," Engel told MSNBC's Ronan Farrow. "Everybody knew about it."
Engel said that some of those implicated told him that they were being used as scapegoats by the Senate Intelligence Committee, led by outgoing Chairwoman Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.).
"The CIA was asked to do this; was given authorizations to do this. And now many people involved are saying to me privately, 'Now we're being held out to dry. You asked us to do this, and now the world is coming down on top of it," Engel said.
...
"When you look back, how are you going to remember this? Is it going to be remembered as the period in which the CIA, in secret while lying to the political leadership, beat some people to death and did horrible things and didn't get any results, which is what today's report is suggesting, or was it a period when the country was very nervous, the CIA was asked to do these horrible things, the practice stopped, and then you have the political leadership pretending that it didn’t know anything and trying to wash its hands of the problem."

Jose Rodrigues, a top official leading the nation's post-9/11 interrogation regime, calls the Democrats liars.

The men and women of my former organization, the CIA, are accustomed to frequent and sudden reversals of direction from their political leaders. But the latest twists and turns are especially dramatic.
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The leaders of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees and of both parties in Congress were briefed on the program more than 40 times between 2002 and 2009. But Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) tried to deny that she was told in 2002 that detainees had been waterboarded. That is simply not true. I was among those who briefed her.
There’s great hypocrisy in politicians' criticism of the CIAs interrogation program. In the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, lawmakers urged us to do everything possible to prevent another attack on our soil. Members of Congress and the administration were nearly unanimous in their desire that the CIA do all that it could to debilitate and destroy al-Qaeda. The CIA got the necessary approvals to do so and kept Congress briefed throughout. But as our successes grew, some lawmakers' recollections shrank in regard to the support they once offered. Here are a couple of reminders.
On May 26, 2002, Feinstein was quoted in the New York Times saying that the attacks of 9/11 were a real awakening and that it would no longer be "business as usual." The attacks, she said, let us know "that the threat is profound" and "that we have to do some things that historically we have not wanted to do to protect ourselves."
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If Feinstein, Rockefeller and other politicians were saying such things in print and on national TV, imagine what they were saying to us in private. We did what we were asked to do, we did what we were assured was legal, and we know our actions were effective. Our reward, a decade later, is to hear some of these same politicians expressing outrage for what was done and, even worse, mischaracterizing the actions taken and understating the successes achieved.

Posted by: Ace at 07:14 PM

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1 In before the Scorpion!

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 09, 2014 07:16 PM (rwI+c)

2 U.N. Human Rights Investigator Calls For Prosecuting Bush Officials After Dems Release CIA "Torture" Report...

Now I get it.

weaselzippers

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:16 PM (IXrOn)

3 They Lie!!!

Posted by: Carol at December 09, 2014 07:16 PM (sj3Ax)

4 SCHWERE PANZER!!

Whoops... no. Sorry. It's just Candy Crowley's ass.

Posted by: Felix Steiner at December 09, 2014 07:17 PM (pSog8)

5 I really hope the CIA decides to get even.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 09, 2014 07:18 PM (rwI+c)

6 And it's almost as if the Dem senators haven't had 8 years to release their version of a report.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 09, 2014 07:18 PM (2ZvEW)

7 They were for it before they were against it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 09, 2014 07:18 PM (3UGBQ)

8 Ronan Farrow is still on TV?

wow

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:18 PM (IXrOn)

9 Howie Carr, Boston radio host, said that Dick Cheney talked to NY Times. I can't find interview.

Posted by: Carol at December 09, 2014 07:19 PM (sj3Ax)

10 "What the CIA did was reprehensible."
-People who were apologists for Soviet atrocities, ChiCom atrocities, VietCong atrocities, El Salvadoran atrocities, Sandinista atrocities...

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at December 09, 2014 07:19 PM (V70Ne)

11 Beginning in 2015, a strange series of car crashes, heart attacks, fast growing cancers and mysterious disappearances decimated the Democratic Party Leadership.

Posted by: toby928(C) from the future at December 09, 2014 07:19 PM (rwI+c)

12 Seems like The Smothers Brothers are giving me the news now

Posted by: tinfoil at December 09, 2014 07:20 PM (H3SRF)

13 There was absolutely no reason to release this report. The program was ended in 2007.

This is a political hit job that will have severe impact on our ability to collect intelligence. We are going right back to the Clinton days when Bubba gutted the CIA and look what that got us.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2014 07:21 PM (g1DWB)

14 Mom always liked you best.

Posted by: d*ck smothers at December 09, 2014 07:21 PM (2ZvEW)

15

Payback will be a b*tch.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:21 PM (IXrOn)

16
Feinstein only got pissed when she found that the CIA was spying on her.

In the Shower... Pre-denounced myself

Posted by: The Jackhole at December 09, 2014 07:22 PM (6/J77)

17 This joint needs a Tweet button. Also, Dems are f@gs.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 09, 2014 07:22 PM (Tu6N6)

18 Heh. Heh. Heh. Dick Smothers.

Posted by: beavis at December 09, 2014 07:22 PM (2ZvEW)

19 There is NYT article today about Dick Cheney.

Posted by: Carol at December 09, 2014 07:23 PM (sj3Ax)

20 January 1 I'm switching parties.

Posted by: John 'Anal Dumpling' McCain at December 09, 2014 07:23 PM (XzRw1)

21 Feinstein is a lying sack of shit... Hope this comes back to bite Her...

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 09, 2014 07:23 PM (Bn6aD)

22 So, letting thousands die is ok as long as we play patty cake with the scum of the world. Fuck you Feinstein you haggard scrunt of a human being.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 09, 2014 07:23 PM (5es5h)

23 Lies lies lies yeah.

Posted by: One of the Thompson Twins at December 09, 2014 07:23 PM (BPMYx)

24 This administration has been "Lying to Congress" and "Lying to the People" for years.

And Feinstein has the nerve to bring this up?

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2014 07:24 PM (kWxsq)

25 Lena Dunham is back
Ben Shapiro @benshapiro
When Lena Dunham writes of sexually abusing her sister, she's a victim. When she libels "Barry," she's a victim. Sensing a theme here.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 07:24 PM (ZPrif)

26 Posted by: The Jackhole at December 09, 2014 07:22 PM (6/J77)

There goes dinner. Thanks Bud
NOT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 09, 2014 07:24 PM (5es5h)

27 Rush said McCain jumped up to say it too!

Posted by: Carol at December 09, 2014 07:25 PM (sj3Ax)

28 To say they lie is an understatement. They lie when there is direct video of otherwise and double and triple down on the lie.

I know this report is wrong on almost every level because Harry asshole Reid supports it.

Diane Feinstein nearly has a seizure over Snowden revelations and now she exposes us to the world too.

Pretty easy to see Diane was pissed off the CIA was reading her emails and this is the justice she wants.

She is such a special snowflake she can do anything and it is the right thing to do. IIRC Nixon said as much for himself.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 09, 2014 07:25 PM (WNERA)

29
So, what's in store for later in the week?

What's left that he hasn't destroyed yet?

Posted by: Meremortal at December 09, 2014 07:25 PM (1Y+hH)

30 Posted by: Costanza Defense

Can we at least waterboard Lena Dunham? That way everybody wins.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at December 09, 2014 07:25 PM (V70Ne)

31 And don't forget Juan McCain on his white horse leading the democrat charge.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 07:26 PM (8SzFj)

32 Last week the Edmonton Oilers GM held a press conference one morning, and the sole purpose of that press conference seemed to be to make sure that people understood that the tire fire of a season they are experiencing is in no way his fault.

This reminds me of that.

Posted by: Dave S. at December 09, 2014 07:26 PM (UvR6d)

33 Seems like The Smothers Brothers are giving me the news now

That Was the Week That Was.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 09, 2014 07:26 PM (0HooB)

34 Spontaneous demonstrations anyone?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 07:26 PM (5es5h)

35 Jose Rodrigues, eh? Sounds like someone whose employer needs to be imprisoned.

Posted by: Chris M at December 09, 2014 07:26 PM (6RZos)

36

Earlier today I talked about a recurring pattern, a good one, I've been noticing.

Cops, police chiefs pushing back and condemning Obama & Co on accusing them of racism (Ferguson).

Military pushing back on the Bergdahl desertion and trading of terrorists.

Military, Navy Seals pushing back on Benghazi.

Similarly, the fraternities pushing back on false rape charges.

Now, this. I don't think the CIA will take this lying down.

Obama and the Democrat Party are attacking men of honor, who have each others back, and believe in America, fight and die for our freedoms.

Strong men who won't put up with SCOAMT's.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:27 PM (IXrOn)

37 I'd like to see the CIA get revenge on this but there are too many there that agree with obama...

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 09, 2014 07:27 PM (Bn6aD)

38 Maybe next time they'll keep their jerkoff Iran report to themselves.

Posted by: Dubya at December 09, 2014 07:27 PM (DL2i+)

39 But ok to order drone strikes on US citizens because...

Posted by: USA at December 09, 2014 07:27 PM (m8hf7)

40 39
But ok to order drone strikes on US citizens because...

Yesssss. What's the problem?

Posted by: John 'Anal Dumpling' McCain at December 09, 2014 07:29 PM (XzRw1)

41 29 So, what's in store for later in the week?
What's left that he hasn't destroyed yet?

Posted by: Meremortal at December 09, 2014 07:25 PM (1Y+hH)

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Homeschooling?
I'm bracing myself for that one.

Barky would love to outlaw Homeschooling.
And since he can get away with 'anything' now...he will do it.

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2014 07:29 PM (kWxsq)

42
Rudolph is on ABC at 8 PM.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 09, 2014 07:29 PM (ZfUN7)

43 I know nothing! Nothing!

Posted by: Sgt. Schultz at December 09, 2014 07:29 PM (oKE6c)

44 A parting shot from the left.

Posted by: teh Wind at December 09, 2014 07:29 PM (frYU/)

45 Democrats lying? That's unpossible!

Posted by: The MSM at December 09, 2014 07:29 PM (lN8KC)

46 Politicians lying, and generally shit-stirring. It's all just grandstanding anymore. They don't give one fck about consequences.

Posted by: kraken at December 09, 2014 07:29 PM (5+mPY)

47 Every post on the CIA report should be accompanied by a pic of those poor souls jumping from the Twin Towers.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (cNJvW)

48 So lets see, We have amnesty,"riots" condoned by obama as being justified, Gruber calling us all stupid, and the CIA being trashed... What a week...

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (Bn6aD)

49 How many of these congresscritters were also for the Gulf War(s) before they were against it?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (0HooB)

50 29 So, what's in store for later in the week?

What's left that he hasn't destroyed yet?

Nice 401K you have there.

Posted by: Uncaring and Pre-Facist Centralized Government at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (XzRw1)

51 >>>And don't forget Juan McCain on his white horse leading the democrat charge.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 07:26 PM (8SzFj)<<<

That was me, you asshole!!! **sobbing...runs off to comfort herself at an all you can eat buffet**

Posted by: Meggie Mac at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (qfd4W)

52 So Obama is gutting the military and the Dems are crippling the CIA as they leave town.

Traitors gotta traitor.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (ZPrif)

53 Fuckers gotta fuck.

Posted by: eman at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (mR7Es)

54 I am shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you, that there is gambling going on in Rick's casino.

Posted by: Captain Renault at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (oKE6c)

55 I'd like to see the CIA get revenge on this but there are too many there that agree with obama...
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 09, 2014 07:27 PM (Bn6aD)

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They might look at it as "target rich".

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 07:31 PM (8SzFj)

56 Thanks, Boss Moss!
I'll record Rudolph.

Posted by: Carol at December 09, 2014 07:31 PM (sj3Ax)

57 50 29 So, what's in store for later in the week?

What's left that he hasn't destroyed yet?

Nice 401K you have there.

Posted by: Uncaring and Pre-Facist Centralized Government at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (XzRw1)

but, I can keep my 529? yes?

Posted by: MikeH at December 09, 2014 07:31 PM (4OZqu)

58 47 Every post on the CIA report should be accompanied by a pic of those poor souls jumping from the Twin Towers.
Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (cNJvW)

This.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 09, 2014 07:31 PM (oKE6c)

59 We're all victims now.

Feinstein has seen her popularity shrink in California as more revelations about NSA domestic intelligence gathering are revealed.

So let's kick the CIA for what they where told to do in 2001. And none of this reprehensible.

Gulags, concentration camps, terrorist training, beheadings and crucifixions by Salafist Muslim warriors spreading Jihad; all that stuff is reprehensible.

The most recent and coming massacres by ISIL; reprehensible.

Pouring water on Khalid Sheik Mohammed's face? Well, well, well.
And he's still alive, and lawyered up by the law firm that used to employ Eric Holder. Hmmmm.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... after 5 pm at December 09, 2014 07:31 PM (RFeQD)

60 The Dems are all a confederacy of fuck weasels

Posted by: UGAdawg at December 09, 2014 07:32 PM (gHXxB)

61 I like Ace's idea the other day, of targeting a handful of GOP reps every two years for un-election. I really do like that idea.

But I will never vote for any Democrat as long as I live.

Posted by: stace at December 09, 2014 07:32 PM (ImzkZ)

62 Barky would love to outlaw Homeschooling.
And since he can get away with 'anything' now...he will do it.
Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2014 07:29 PM (kWxsq)

Possible, possible.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 09, 2014 07:32 PM (1Y+hH)

63 So lets see, We have amnesty,"riots" condoned by obama as being justified, Gruber calling us all stupid, and the CIA being trashed... What a week...
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (Bn6aD)

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They haven't even warmed up yet for what they have in store for this country.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 07:33 PM (8SzFj)

64 I would vote for Pat Paulson if I could

Posted by: tinfoil at December 09, 2014 07:33 PM (H3SRF)

65 And here I thought waterboarding was on the light side of interrogation techniques. Should have tickled the fuckers with feathers...that would have shown those meanies who was boss.

Posted by: dartist at December 09, 2014 07:33 PM (ahBY0)

66 Good for Jose Rodriguez. Well done, sir, and thank you for serving during those times.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 09, 2014 07:33 PM (sYUHT)

67 but, I can keep my 529? yes?

All your finances belong to us.

Posted by: Uncaring and Pre-Facist Centralized Government at December 09, 2014 07:34 PM (XzRw1)

68 So lets see, We have amnesty,"riots" condoned by obama as being justified, Gruber calling us all stupid, and the CIA being trashed... What a week...
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (Bn6aD)

And that is only what we know of.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:34 PM (IXrOn)

69 Stace,We should ptimary RINOs.

Posted by: Carol at December 09, 2014 07:34 PM (sj3Ax)

70 Posted by: tinfoil at December 09, 2014 07:33 PM (H3SRF)

You are definitely over 50.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 09, 2014 07:34 PM (cNJvW)

71 60 The Dems are all a confederacy of fuck weasels
Posted by: UGAdawg at December 09, 2014 07:32 PM (gHXxB)

They will probably cut our gin and chocolate rations next, unless we get in line.

Posted by: kraken at December 09, 2014 07:34 PM (5+mPY)

72 As someone who has observed Feinswine's career from her earliest days on the San Francisco Board of Stuporvisors, none of this comes as any surprise.

Princess DiFi is a lying bitch. Always has been. Simple as that.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 09, 2014 07:35 PM (noWW6)

73
I'd like to see the CIA get revenge on this but there are too many there that agree with obama...
Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink!
...........................
You might be surprised.

Posted by: "Red" Reddington at December 09, 2014 07:35 PM (wAQA5)

74 64 I would vote for Pat Paulson if I could
Posted by: tinfoil at December 09, 2014 07:33 PM (H3SRF)

I'd vote for Wendell Wilkie

Posted by: MikeH at December 09, 2014 07:35 PM (4OZqu)

75 The big one is the last week in office in 2016 when he pardons 10M illegals.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 07:36 PM (ZPrif)

76 "Senate Democrat Report on Torture Is Firm On Key Finding That Senate Democrats Never Heard Anything About This "Torture" Business"

Of course this statement is correct. The CIA only briefed them on Enhanced Interrogation Techniques.

Posted by: Davod at December 09, 2014 07:36 PM (FWznJ)

77 I'd like to see this blow up in their faces...

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 09, 2014 07:36 PM (Bn6aD)

78 Andrew Sullivan, amateur vagina spelunker, is spooging all over himself with this report. He really has become one of the most loathsome people in the world.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2014 07:36 PM (g1DWB)

79 Does it bother anyone else that a Black man with an Islamic name who was elected twice to be President of a majority white country goes on endlessly about institutional racism of that same country?

I hate this clown and all of the fuckwads that put him in power.Posted by: Kreplach at December 09, 2014 04:09 PM (Oc3Dj)My candidate for quote of the day

Posted by: The Jackhole at December 09, 2014 07:37 PM (6/J77)

80 So the Democrats wouldn't mind seeing us attacked again. Good to know.

Posted by: rickl at December 09, 2014 07:37 PM (sdi6R)

81 I'd vote for Wendell Wilkie

Coolidge?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 09, 2014 07:37 PM (0HooB)

82 I would vote for Pat Paulson if I could Posted by: tinfoil at December 09, 2014 07:33 PM (H3SRF)

I'd vote for Wendell Wilkie
Posted by: MikeH at December 09, 2014 07:35 PM (4OZqu)

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I'd vote for Al Greene.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 07:37 PM (8SzFj)

83 I cry little salty tears over the poor lambs in this report.

Posted by: --- at December 09, 2014 07:37 PM (MMC8r)

84 Sock it to me.

Posted by: zombie richard nixon at December 09, 2014 07:37 PM (2ZvEW)

85

If only the CIA could sue Feinstein for defamation, or something.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:38 PM (IXrOn)

86
After we have willing surrendered using the same tactics in the Senate that the democrats used and bequeathed us, we should then get to the bottom of who was protecting our people from terrorists and ensure they get jail time.

Posted by: John McCain at December 09, 2014 07:38 PM (9+U1d)

87 Did Juan McCain also wave a White Flag from horse?

Posted by: Carol at December 09, 2014 07:38 PM (sj3Ax)

88 The CIA probably know where some skeletons are buried...by Democrats.

Feinstein did this as a 'preemptive strike'.
Now...if there are anyleaks of scandalous info about Dems, they will declare thatit is "all lies" coming from a "disgruntled CIA".

Posted by: wheatie at December 09, 2014 07:38 PM (kWxsq)

89 17 This joint needs a Tweet button. Also, Dems are f@gs.
Posted by: Dr Spank at December 09, 2014 07:22 PM (Tu6N6)

Not what you want but there is an ace of spades Twitter account that tweets out links for the articles posted here similar to an RSS feed. I can't remember the account name though. Maybe @aoshq? I don't know how quickly it updates to link the newest post though.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 09, 2014 07:39 PM (z/Ubi)

90 NYT called Cheney Torture Apologist!

Posted by: Carol at December 09, 2014 07:39 PM (sj3Ax)

91 Torture???

No comment.

Because we were actually and don't have heads!!!

Posted by: zombie Daniel Pearl, James Foley, Steven Sotloff, etc, etc. at December 09, 2014 07:39 PM (qfd4W)

92 Exposing all this is bad enough but to claim you never knew any of it and it didn't produce any " results." is disgusting...

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 09, 2014 07:39 PM (Bn6aD)

93 Oh how well I remember Pelousy claiming that the CIA was lying about her being informed. I recall asking why there wasn't charges brought against those 'liars', as lying to Congress is a crime. Here's a hint -- No crime was committed.

Which itself is the biggest double standard in existence, since them pricks lie to we the people all the time.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 09, 2014 07:39 PM (Cwylc)

94 Fvck all the Democrats, lying jackasses have fvcked this country over any number of times to avoid responsibility when it comes to gathering valid information on what other countries were/are trying to do.

Posted by: Gmac- who is tired of all this at December 09, 2014 07:39 PM (baiNQ)

95 It amazes me that the dems would play games with an agency that has the assets and ability to destroy them, their families, or their careers with very little effort. Even if exposed, it would be hidden behind the plausible deniability of a "rogue" agent that went off the reservation...political cover only goes so far when you piss off the wrong people!

Posted by: tbd at December 09, 2014 07:39 PM (G+E2j)

96 All these assholes are fucking shitweasels. Led around by a mole faced King Shitweasel. Where's the transcript Candy? Did everbody see how glamorous Mooch looked the other night? I fucking hate our fucking media. Assholes.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 09, 2014 07:40 PM (ucDmr)

97 I can see it know. We will lose an entire American city due to a terrorist attack and then the pearl clutching full drama of the political class will be on full display. I think that this will be the day that I say "Burn it down".

Posted by: Cheri at December 09, 2014 07:40 PM (ZFPMM)

98 "Feinstein has seen her popularity shrink in California as more
revelations about NSA domestic intelligence gathering are revealed."

I suspect that Commiefornians would re-elect her until she was older than Strom Thurmond, were she so inclined.

The Afghanistan war was hugely unpopular in Commiefornia.

Feinstein voted for that war.

The Iraq war was hugely unpopular in Commiefornia.

Feinstein voted for that war, too.

Feinstein then, after voting for both wars, went on to use her perch on the relevant Senate committee to steer huge, and hugely profitable, "no-bid" contracts for postwar reconstruction to firms controlled by her financier husband. Without disclosing to her home state voters that she was doing so.

You would figure that this would politically incinerate her in CA. Nope. Returned by acclamation. Commiefornia Democrats. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 09, 2014 07:40 PM (noWW6)

99 This is a political hit job that will have severe
impact on our ability to collect intelligence. We are going right back
to the Clinton days when Bubba gutted the CIA and look what that got us.

Posted by: JackStraw

Clinton? pffffft. Randy little nancy.

Posted by: Frank Church at December 09, 2014 07:41 PM (4nR9/)

100 In my book, John McCain used up any slack he had as a result of being a POW. Benedict Arnold also was a war hero for the infant United States. For a little while.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 09, 2014 07:41 PM (cNJvW)

101 @13 This is a political hit job that will have severe impact on our ability to collect intelligence. We are going right back to the Clinton days when Bubba gutted the CIA and look what that got us.
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Jamie Gorelick on the 9/11 commission?

Posted by: junior at December 09, 2014 07:41 PM (UWFpX)

102 Exposing all this is bad enough but to claim you never knew any of it and it didn't produce any " results." is disgusting...

That almost sounds like perjury, doesn't it?

I'm pretty sure they're on some public record somewhere.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire at December 09, 2014 07:42 PM (0HooB)

103 It wasn't me!

Posted by: Shaggy (aka democrats) at December 09, 2014 07:42 PM (aO4Uc)

104 The Movie: Loathsome Dove

Posted by: torabora at December 09, 2014 07:42 PM (BSmJJ)

105 >>>So the Democrats wouldn't mind seeing us attacked again. Good to know.

Posted by: rickl at December 09, 2014 07:37 PM (sdi6R)<<<

We need empathy for our enemy and if attacking us makes them feel good... well, so be it.

Posted by: Hillary "45" at December 09, 2014 07:42 PM (qfd4W)

106 It was the one armed man!

Posted by: Dr. Richard Kimble (aka democrats) at December 09, 2014 07:43 PM (aO4Uc)

107 The thing is, I was totally expecting this. They've had this on ice for this very occasian; when the American people rejected the dem party in this last election. This is a revenge strike. There's going to be more.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 07:43 PM (8SzFj)

108 98 ^

Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 09, 2014 07:44 PM (WNERA)

109 Posted by: Hillary "45"

Pro tip: don't advertise your waist size.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at December 09, 2014 07:44 PM (V70Ne)

110 It was a magical pristine single bullet!

Posted by: Zombie Snarlin' Arlen at December 09, 2014 07:44 PM (JO9+V)

111 If only the CIA could ~~sue~~ use Feinstein for ~~defamation~~ defenestration, or something.

Fixed.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 09, 2014 07:44 PM (2ZvEW)

112 The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. And like that... he is gone.

Posted by: Verbal at December 09, 2014 07:44 PM (4OZqu)

113 Posted by: Buzzion

Yeah, I know all about The HQ 'Twitter Operation".

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 09, 2014 07:45 PM (Tu6N6)

114 >>Did Juan McCain also wave a White Flag from horse?
Posted by: Carol

No, I think was just him showing us his white flabby ass.

Posted by: Aviator at December 09, 2014 07:45 PM (3rrMW)

115 "Ronan Farrow is still on TV?"

Progressives are okay with Chinese water torture.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at December 09, 2014 07:45 PM (IOt29)

116 ace used to talk about "pretendustry" when referring to industry playing to the environmental faction with stupid green practices. When it comes to torture the whole country is playing the same silly game. Personally I don't give a shit if the CIA uses chainsaws and the rack on terrorists if there's a slim chance of retrieving some information that could protect the country. If it came down to it 95% of the American people would agree with me, but it's no skin off anyone's nose to pretend they're offended by our so called torture practices.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 09, 2014 07:45 PM (BXkFh)

117 I'd have Super Dave arrest all those criminals. Somebody has too.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at December 09, 2014 07:45 PM (H3SRF)

118 About time to start calling these people liars.

Posted by: Lea at December 09, 2014 07:46 PM (/bd0t)

119 There is video of an eight-months-pregnant woman jumping from the WTC

---don't read the next line...

when she hit the sidewalk, the child exploded out of her body.

to punish those responsible, I don't give a f*ck what the CIA or anyone else did. Not a f*ck.....

Posted by: roll over, St Thomas at December 09, 2014 07:46 PM (8CdUx)

120

Djemocrats Unchained

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:46 PM (IXrOn)

121 17 This joint needs a Tweet button. Also, Dems are f@gs.
Posted by: Dr Spank at December 09, 2014 07:22 PM (Tu6N6)

My shit's all retarded.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 09, 2014 07:46 PM (aO4Uc)

122 "I know Nothing, Nothing!"

Posted by: Senator SGT Schultz at December 09, 2014 07:47 PM (nzKvP)

123 100 In my book, John McCain used up any slack he had as a result of being a POW. Benedict Arnold also was a war hero for the infant United States. For a little while.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at December 09, 2014 07:41 PM (cNJvW)

Yup.

Posted by: rickl at December 09, 2014 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

124 About time to start calling these people liars.
Posted by: Lea at December 09, 2014 07:46 PM (/bd0t)

Call them whatever you want. We report Nothing, Nothing

Posted by: Senator SGT Schultz at December 09, 2014 07:48 PM (nzKvP)

125 36

Earlier today I talked about a recurring pattern, a good one, I've been noticing.

Cops, police chiefs pushing back and condemning Obama & Co on accusing them of racism (Ferguson).

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:27 PM (IXrOn)
Sheriff Clarke of Milwaukee was burning down twitter last night. He said a bunch of stuff, one being that Holder is just an upscale Sharpton.

Posted by: stace at December 09, 2014 07:49 PM (ImzkZ)

126 Oh and by the way, my SERE training class was subjected to everything that those illegal combatants were subjected to.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 09, 2014 07:49 PM (sYUHT)

127 Personally, I don't think they totured enough of those fucking vermin, I really don't give shit about some asshole who is trying to kill me. Any normal citizen has to be pissed at DiFi. Reprehensible fucking scrunt.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at December 09, 2014 07:49 PM (ucDmr)

128 Kerry tried to get them to delay report according to IBD editorial & Hagel put everyone on high alert.

Great Job, DemonRats!

Posted by: Carol at December 09, 2014 07:50 PM (sj3Ax)

129 to punish those responsible, I don't give a f*ck what the CIA or anyone else did. Not a f*ck.....

Amen to that. They should look to WW2 for solutions to some problem solving solutions.

Posted by: dartist at December 09, 2014 07:50 PM (ahBY0)

130

Obligatory

MARK LEVIN BLASTS SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN OVER SENATE REPORT ON CIA, SAYS SHE'S THROWING IN WITH THE ENEMY

therightscoop.com

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:50 PM (IXrOn)

131 Oh and by the way, my SERE training class was subjected to everything that those illegal combatants were subjected to.
Posted by: goatexchange at December 09, 2014 07:49 PM (sYUHT)

I was subjected to the coffee at the Galley in Newport

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2014 07:50 PM (nzKvP)

132
MARK LEVIN BLASTS SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN OVER SENATE REPORT ON CIA, SAYS SHE'S THROWING IN WITH THE ENEMY

Yes. She has definitely thrown in with Obama..

Posted by: helloit's me Donna and I know nuthink! at December 09, 2014 07:51 PM (Bn6aD)

133 Sheriff Clarke of Milwaukee was burning down twitter last night. He said a bunch of stuff, one being that Holder is just an upscale Sharpton.
Posted by: stace at December 09, 2014 07:49 PM (ImzkZ)

No fear.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:51 PM (IXrOn)

134 The shit storm coming from this isn't addressed: 'to whom it may concern'. It has everyone's name on it. The spiral continues.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 09, 2014 07:51 PM (WNERA)

135 After Nixon, we had The Church Commission which was an investigation into the actions of the CIA infiltrating anti-war political organizations to see if there was any foreign influence (money). The CIA was prohibited from 'spying on' US Citizens because we just don't do that kind of thing. The FBI did it instead, maybe, or maybe not.

Then there was the first truck bomb in the parking garage of the World Trade Center. I don't remember what happened after that. What did the FBI discover when they investigated? I don't remember any media reports about how the terrorists might try it a second time. Why would they?

Then 9/11 happened. All those democrats who warned us of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction were totally on board President Bush's plan for retribution. Until Bush went into Iraq, and things got tough.

What's the point? I don't know either. I have a headache and need to get something to eat.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 09, 2014 07:52 PM (I3giC)

136 I'm commenting about this and turning away to take a few deep breaths after each comment. I'm trying to be civil. I don't want to get banned.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 07:52 PM (8SzFj)

137 I'm sure it's been said, but it's not a real good idea to piss off people who discover secrets for a living.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 09, 2014 07:53 PM (KFdZd)

138 Israeli security researchers say that personal information of millions of Alibaba users may have been exposed through flaws on the e-commerce giant's platform. AppSec Labs says a pair of weaknesses it discovered in the Chinese e-commerce site's code could have allowed hackers to hijack merchant accounts.

"If I want to buy a $600 phone, I can change the price to a dollar and buy it," said AppSec founder Erez Metula. "I can see what people have bought, I can change the shipping address so things can be sent to me instead." Metula said one of the flaws was discovered by a 21-year-old employee.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2014 07:53 PM (nzKvP)

139 Nevergiveup - you win, that cuppa HAD to be worse. far worse. Maybe we should have fed that to KSM.....? or is that going too, too far....?

Posted by: goatexchange at December 09, 2014 07:54 PM (sYUHT)

140 you don't often see branches of government firing at each other so publically

see ciasavedlives.com

but the CIA is stuffed with ivy league progs

make no mistake

this is an internecine squabble

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 07:54 PM (zOTsN)

141 Wouldn't surprise me in the least if ISIS releases a video of an American being really tortured in response to this.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2014 07:54 PM (g1DWB)

142 Re. waterboarding: If we do it to our own people in SERE training or if a "journalist" pays someone to do it to him for a story, it isn't torture.

Posted by: butch at December 09, 2014 07:54 PM (HLx1C)

143 I was subjected to the coffee at the Galley in Newport
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2014 07:50 PM (nzKvP)

-------------------------------------------

I was subjected to basic training food at Ft. Campbell, KY. I know what torture is.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 07:55 PM (8SzFj)

144 I would imagine that having to make the choice between burning to death or leaping from a huge skyscraper is pretty torturous.

I can image being at 35k feet and knowing that you are going to be part of a missle fire bomb is pretty torturous.

I am sure that making that last phone call to a loved one would be very torturous.

The political class with few exceptions despises the American people and we are just pawns to be f'ed with.

Posted by: Cheri at December 09, 2014 07:55 PM (ZFPMM)

145 They switched out Rudolph for Santa Claus is coming to town.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 09, 2014 07:56 PM (ZfUN7)

146 I've been subjected to Sen Feindstein forever. sucks

Posted by: torabora at December 09, 2014 07:56 PM (BSmJJ)

147 Oops wrong network.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 09, 2014 07:57 PM (ZfUN7)

148 Dan Coats is still in the Senate; I thought he was sleeping with the fishes

like Ron Goldblum...

Posted by: roll over, St Thomas at December 09, 2014 07:58 PM (8CdUx)

149 148 Dan Coats is still in the Senate; I thought he was sleeping with the fishes

like Ron Goldblum...
Posted by: roll over, St Thomas at December 09, 2014 07:58 PM (8CdUx)

or Luca Brasi

Posted by: MikeH at December 09, 2014 07:59 PM (4OZqu)

150 Take a moment and realize that Rudolph turned 50 today, and his nose shined.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at December 09, 2014 07:59 PM (H3SRF)

151 Well, the Democrats will not waste an opportunity to hurt the U.S. when they can. Sure, a lot of them probably did tacitly approve, but they hate the country more. They don't care if every single hostage of every single western nation gets brutally beheaded over this disclosure, and they certainly don't care that many U.S. "assets" and intelligence personnel on the ground lose their lives as a result of this either. They don't care! Their so-called "principles" are far more important than the damage that they do. To them, it's "our fault" and America is a horrible, evil, imperialistic nation that must be destroyed. They see the U.S. as the most corrupt and purely evil nation that has ever existed. If you don't believe me, sit down and actually talk to a die hard lib, and they will leave you with no doubt that they hate this country with every fiber of their being.

Posted by: Mistress O at December 09, 2014 08:00 PM (2/oBD)

152 They switched out Rudolph for Santa Claus is coming to town.

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OK, that's fucking torture right there.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 09, 2014 08:01 PM (KFdZd)

153 150 Take a moment and realize that Rudolph turned 50 today, and his nose shined.
Posted by: tinfoil baby at December 09, 2014 07:59 PM (H3SRF)

ya know, they made fun of Rudolph's nose until they got fogged in... I would have told them to pound snow if they came to me...

Posted by: MikeH at December 09, 2014 08:01 PM (4OZqu)

154 These traitorous rats are lucky I don't mingle in their social circles and don't want to risk my soul but mostly that I don't mingle in their circles. I'm not a ninja but I'd come up with something.

Posted by: Palerider at December 09, 2014 08:02 PM (dkExz)

155 The ways I've been attacked for sharing my story show how far we have to go when discussing sexual assault.

I'm really disappointed in you all.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at December 09, 2014 08:02 PM (ZPrif)

156 151

I've had many conversations and read a few editorials listened to democrats and this president in particular. This inspires me to watch it burn. Make popcorn.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 09, 2014 08:03 PM (WNERA)

157 btw, there wasn't much actual torture in that Torture Report.

Where's the beef?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:03 PM (ZPrif)

158 You know what this country needs right now? A solid well spoken conservative leader of the US Senate.

Posted by: TVoC Hates Big Government at December 09, 2014 08:04 PM (XzRw1)

159

Posted by: Calvin Coolidge at December 09, 2014 08:04 PM (rwI+c)

160 they killed 3,000 people with airplanes

they cut off heads

the kill babies

they force prostitution

they buy and sell slaves

they want a dirty bomb

I do not give on fuck what we did, or will do, to them

including nuke them

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:05 PM (zOTsN)

161 ACE - you know this is a ploy to change the subject from the explosive Johnathan Gruber testimony!

Posted by: SCIPIO AFRICANUS at December 09, 2014 08:05 PM (i5wUE)

162 As always, I pray for our military service members that are defending this nation against all odds with these lying shitbirds. God please protect and save them.

Posted by: Cheri at December 09, 2014 08:05 PM (ZFPMM)

163 158 You know what this country needs right now? A solid well spoken conservative leader of the US Senate.

Posted by: TVoC Hates Big Government at December 09, 2014 08:04 PM (XzRw1)

Bob Dole is ready, Bob Dole has upped his Vigara and Bob is ready to stand up

Posted by: Bob Dole at December 09, 2014 08:05 PM (4OZqu)

164 The island of misfit toys really is the story of DC,

Posted by: TVoC Hates Big Government at December 09, 2014 08:05 PM (XzRw1)

165 I'm pissed bush was such a pussy, I wanted to see weekly blow torching and electro shocking.

Posted by: Jean at December 09, 2014 08:06 PM (TETYm)

166 Serious, though -- where is all the torture.
They waterboarded. We already knew that.

Where's the shocking bad stuff?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:07 PM (ZPrif)

167 I starting to wish really really bad things on these people.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 08:07 PM (8SzFj)

168 If McCain and Graham are done with their conjugal visit, maybe we could get them to weigh in.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 09, 2014 08:09 PM (BZAd3)

169 Maybe now that the Senate is done investigating the people who help keep US citizens safe they'll have some time to investigate the parts of the government that are attacking the citizens like the fucking IRS.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2014 08:09 PM (g1DWB)

170 I'm pissed bush was such a pussy, I wanted to see weekly blow torching and electro shocking.
Posted by: Jean at December 09, 2014 08:06 PM (TETYm)

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And I wanted Christmas albums recording their screams.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 08:09 PM (8SzFj)

171 We treated Khalid Sheik Mohammed so poorly that he is alive and well more than thirteen years after his attack that killed 3,000.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 09, 2014 08:09 PM (nFdGS)

172 >>Serious, though -- where is all the torture.
They waterboarded. We already knew that.

Where's the shocking bad stuff?
Posted by: Costanza Defense

They showed them video of DiFi and Pelosi scissoring.

Posted by: Aviator at December 09, 2014 08:09 PM (3rrMW)

173 they'll have some time to investigate the parts of the government that are attacking the citizens like the fucking IRS.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2014 08:09 PM (g1DWB)

+1,000

Posted by: MikeH at December 09, 2014 08:10 PM (4OZqu)

174 We need some advanced Nerf weaponry to use from here forward in dealing with our enemy.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 09, 2014 08:11 PM (BZAd3)

175 166
I heard one died. Was naked in a cold room for several days. True or not?
Frankly if we would put everyone captured in club fed it would not make the mohamadists treat anyone any better.
In fact now that I remember it didn't we cut two loose to live at a Mediterranean resort on our dime?
Had no effect I could recognize.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 09, 2014 08:11 PM (WNERA)

176 169 - Amen.

Posted by: Cheri at December 09, 2014 08:11 PM (ZFPMM)

177 "We didn't know about this until after we knew about this"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:12 PM (vPh3W)

178 Raging Rudolph http://is.gd/xEhgl0

Posted by: Calvin Coolidge at December 09, 2014 08:12 PM (rwI+c)

179 in France ( land of supposed wimps / surrender monkeys ), the DGSE ( their CIA / MI-6 ) has a fondness for car batteries hooked up to scrotums

ask Algerians and other suspected enemies of the State. Pas de waterboarding ici

Posted by: roll over, St Thomas at December 09, 2014 08:13 PM (8CdUx)

180 Worst I've read today is one guy passed out form the water-boarding. Really, that's it?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:13 PM (ZPrif)

181 Serious, though -- where is all the torture. They waterboarded. We already knew that. Where's the shocking bad stuff? Posted by: Costanza Defense

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We'll never see those muzzie faces or hear their screams when they played Yoko Ono's singing on a continuous loop.

Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 08:13 PM (8SzFj)

182 Maybe we could provide any prisoners with... say, a new soccer field or gourmet halal food.

Oh wait...

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 09, 2014 08:13 PM (BZAd3)

183
53 Fuckers gotta fuck.
Posted by: eman at December 09, 2014 07:30 PM (mR7Es)

Dick weasels gotta wease & dick

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 08:13 PM (5es5h)

184 Oh, I also read he "almost went blind" from the waterboarding somehow. huh?

My conscience - still not shocked.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:14 PM (ZPrif)

185 I thought we were gonna learn our guys did some serious bad shit to the terrorist jihadi scum.

So where is it? Where's the torture "far beyond" what we've been told?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:15 PM (ZPrif)

186 150 Take a moment and realize that Rudolph turned 50 today, and his nose shined.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at December 09, 2014 07:59 PM (H3SRF)

The TV special is 50 years old, but the story dates from 1939. Gene Autry had a #1 hit single with the song in 1949.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_the_Red-Nosed_Reindeer

Posted by: rickl at December 09, 2014 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

187 181 Serious, though -- where is all the torture. They waterboarded. We already knew that. Where's the shocking bad stuff? Posted by: Costanza Defense

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We'll never see those muzzie faces or hear their screams when they played Yoko Ono's singing on a continuous loop.
Posted by: Soona at December 09, 2014 08:13 PM (8SzFj)

God or Allah forbid that they would be sleep deprived.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 08:17 PM (5es5h)

188 Democrats just want Jose Rodrigueses on the EBT voter plantation where they belong. And their women as nannies or help.

Posted by: Feh at December 09, 2014 08:17 PM (g/zj9)

189 So where is it? Where's the torture "far beyond" what we've been told?

Give me a concrete floor, a ball peen hammer, and Achmed's toes and I'll get you any information you want.

Posted by: toby928(C) at December 09, 2014 08:17 PM (rwI+c)

190 >>So where is it? Where's the torture "far beyond" what we've been told?
Posted by: Costanza Defense

If there was any it was most likely not at the hands of Americans. All kinds of work can be outsourced.

Posted by: Aviator at December 09, 2014 08:18 PM (3rrMW)

191 dancing boys of Afghanistan

the women of khobani

all those aid workers the beheaded

Daniel Pearl

the marine they hung from a bridge

Malala

no

I have no fucks to give

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:18 PM (zOTsN)

192 Obama Admits Amnesty Is For Many More Than 5 Million http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/09/obama-admits-12-million-amnesty/ via @dailycaller

President Barack Obama told a group of illegal immigrants in Tennessee that his immigration-law rewrite means "you're not going to be deported."

Obama's admission acknowledged that his Nov. 21 declaration provides a de-facto amnesty for the 12 million illegals living in the United States.

The confession contradicts his many suggestions, and many media reports, that his Nov. 21 amnesty covers only 5 million illegal immigrants whose children have citizenship or green cards.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:21 PM (ZPrif)

193 News Flash: Dems are On the Other Side, and Will Stab the Nation in the Back.

Give me a yell when you are ready to end the bad marriage with these scumbags.

Posted by: Great Big Banana Republic at December 09, 2014 08:21 PM (+kznc)

194 These people devote every waking minute of every waking day to political calculations. The well-being of The Republic?...., not so much.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:21 PM (vPh3W)

195 I do work for an Army Recon Vet who went to Vietnam in 65. We talk, and I'll bet they get answers in the field. They never let media around them.

Posted by: dartist at December 09, 2014 08:21 PM (ahBY0)

196 They were against the Saw movies before they were for them.

Posted by: Would You Like to Play Their Game at December 09, 2014 08:23 PM (KG1MP)

197 I expect them to do everything in their power to protect us

let the dems scold

it reveals them

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:24 PM (zOTsN)

198 "Tidings of Comfort and Joy" now on FBC Radio. Soothing. That worldly things may seem hopeless..., doesn't mean that I am without hope.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:26 PM (vPh3W)

199 "let the dems scold
it reveals them"
-Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:24 PM (zOTsN)

Not really.

Posted by: Your Betters at the MSM at December 09, 2014 08:26 PM (16bOT)

200 It's like when they did the PG-13 version of Die Hard -- where's the blood and gore?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:27 PM (ZPrif)

201 It was a tough, tough decision to release this report. We run a real risk of retaliation, so without a doubt it shows great moral courage on the part of we senators.

I'm proud we have political leaders like ourselves who are willing to do the right thing, even if our self-righteous finger-pointing puts ordinary Americans--and especially our soldiers in uniform--at risk.

No price is too high for others to bear in the service of our extolling the high-mindedness of our sacred consciences.

Posted by: Sen. Anus King, D-ME at December 09, 2014 08:28 PM (IOt29)

202 It was a tough, tough decision to release this report. We run a real risk of retaliation, so without a doubt it shows great moral courage on the part of we senators.

I'm proud we have political leaders like ourselves who are willing to do the right thing, even if our self-righteous finger-pointing puts ordinary Americans--and especially our soldiers in uniform--at risk.

No price is too high for others to bear in the service of our extolling the high-mindedness of our sacred consciences.
----------------

This is a spoof, right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:29 PM (vPh3W)

203 This did put the glib Gruber on the second page. Corruption? Not a smidgen.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 09, 2014 08:30 PM (WNERA)

204 Does the alleged 'rectal rehydration' count a medical care, torture, or jihadi foreplay?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 09, 2014 08:30 PM (NaeCR)

205 202 - -Okay. Got it. I'm ready to believe anything theses days, however outrageous.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:31 PM (vPh3W)

206 rectal rehydration is the worst thing I read about and ... I don't really know what this is.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:31 PM (ZPrif)

207 This did put the glib Gruber on the second page. Corruption? Not a smidgen.
Posted by: Bob
---------------

Gruber was *never* going to be reported..., anywhere.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:32 PM (vPh3W)

208 Greetings:

Wasn't it Senatress Feinstein who first said, "You can take my Senate seat when you pry it from my cold dead ass." ???

Posted by: 11B40 at December 09, 2014 08:32 PM (yMbU8)

209
202>> Pretty sure its a spoof...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 09, 2014 08:32 PM (TAu/7)

210 "Does the alleged 'rectal rehydration' count a medical care, torture, or jihadi foreplay?"
-Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 09, 2014 08:30 PM (NaeCR)

Yes.

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 09, 2014 08:34 PM (16bOT)

211 Yeah, it's a spoof. The senator's name is Anus King.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at December 09, 2014 08:34 PM (IOt29)

212 The only reason the report was released now was to bury the Gruber testimony.

Nothing more nothing less.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 08:34 PM (RZzX3)

213 "Rectal Re-hydration?" Sounds soothing and wonderful for The American People!

Posted by: The Anal Lampreys on Capitol Hill at December 09, 2014 08:35 PM (16bOT)

214 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 09, 2014 08:35 PM (KCxzN)

215 Black Anus is my favorite meat! Well, after Black Lab.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 09, 2014 08:35 PM (2ZvEW)

216
rectal rehydration is the worst thing I read about and ... I don't really know what this is.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:31 PM (ZPrif)

It's pretty obvious from the words used.

Or was that a joke?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 08:36 PM (RZzX3)

217 In 1922 a Russian meteorologist, by the name of Rudolph Rostenkosky bucked the conventional wisdom of the day by predicting the end of a years-long drought in the Ukraine. He and his family were ostracized for several days, until the clouds gathered and some 17" of precipitation fell in 24 hours. His wife scolded him, saying, "How could you put our livelihood at risk with such a preposterous prediction?" He replied...

..."Rudolph the Red knows rain, dear!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 09, 2014 08:36 PM (NeFrd)

218 Gruber rated 25 seconds on ABC evening news. He apologized for being a thieving lying asshole.

Posted by: TVoC Hates Big Government at December 09, 2014 08:37 PM (XzRw1)

219 given that they have been advised by their religious leaders that it is OK to have butt sex in order to expand it so it could accommodate an explosive

no

I think rectal hydration is OK

think of it as a cleansing high colonic

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:37 PM (zOTsN)

220 I just saw the news about the $1B in the Senate budget for assistance to Central American immigrants who are "resettling" in the U.S. The needle on my ragestroke-o-meter is officially buried. My level of surprise is nil. Thanks, Boner.

Posted by: PabloD at December 09, 2014 08:37 PM (NkEH0)

221 rectal rehydration is the worst thing I read about and ... I don't really know what this is.

Jihardis butt-chugging brewskis?

Posted by: UVA frat ban in new context at December 09, 2014 08:37 PM (KG1MP)

222 36

Earlier today I talked about a recurring pattern, a good one, I've been noticing.

Cops, police chiefs pushing back and condemning Obama & Co on accusing them of racism (Ferguson).

Military pushing back on the Bergdahl desertion and trading of terrorists.

Military, Navy Seals pushing back on Benghazi.

Similarly, the fraternities pushing back on false rape charges.

Now, this. I don't think the CIA will take this lying down.

Obama and the Democrat Party are attacking men of honor, who have each others back, and believe in America, fight and die for our freedoms.

Strong men who won't put up with SCOAMT's.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 09, 2014 07:27 PM (IXrOn)

Persecuted Christians developed the use of fish motif as secret code identification?

I suggest an Ewok outline to identify us morons.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at December 09, 2014 08:38 PM (uSAVP)

223 I think we found Barry, the moustachioed purple cowboy boot wearing republican rapist

hes working for the CIA

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:39 PM (zOTsN)

224 ..."Rudolph the Red knows rain, dear!"
Posted by: Seamus
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* shuffles through the desk drawer, looking for 1911 *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:39 PM (vPh3W)

225 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:29 PM (vPh3W)

And don't ever forget about how the left supports our troops.

Just not what they do.
Or where they go.
Or how they get there.
Or the stuff they use.
Or the health care they need.

But they support the troops.

Sorry about those "repercussions".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 08:39 PM (RZzX3)

226

Posted by: Deaf and Dumb Rob Lowe at December 09, 2014 08:39 PM (z+L6U)

227 Well, krap, and here's me with my Shocked Face mask (thanks, Outrage Outlet, Outrage Prime shipping rocks!) over at the coin-op carwash getting the inside cleaned of the coffee, chili, and hard cider variously sprayed on it today.

Srsly Horde, you were all On. Freakin. Fire. today in the comments, nonstop yocks had by all, etc.

Liars, every one of them. And only a 5% reduction in hostility towards the R's in that. These "hearings" are being conducted in such a halfass lackadaisical way by Issa that my alienation from the effing worthless R party is bloody effing complete and total. Why on G-ds green earth didn't he keep the IRS on the stand for five effing days and make her take the Fifth 1024 times ? Ditto Gruberschnitzel.
Ditto every effing lying motherraper and fatherraper that has been before his bloody effing useless committee.
Can you say Pro Forma ? how about Complicit ?

So tired of being played.

3rd Party or (already) Bust.
No. More. Republican. BS. Ever. Again.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 09, 2014 08:40 PM (T+Chm)

228 Obama didn't kill the USA, John Boehner just killed it.

Posted by: TVoC Hates Big Government at December 09, 2014 08:40 PM (XzRw1)

229

isis beheads four children for refusing to convert to islam.
http://tinyurl.com/qz8hnnj

"Moderate Muslims" decry said beheadings in
3...2...1... *crickets*

Islam delenda est.

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Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 09, 2014 08:40 PM (yxw0r)

230 ciasavedlives.com website is pretty spiffy

a timeline since 2002 of every briefing to leadership

no way they wasn't put together without official help

perhaps Petraus has found his balls

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:40 PM (zOTsN)

231 I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

Posted by: Feinstein aka 'the Fein' at December 09, 2014 08:40 PM (HRo7B)

232 "O Come Emmanuel" now playing..., geeze I love this station.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:41 PM (vPh3W)

233
meanwhile, holder and obama keep punting the trials of kalid muhammed and nidal hassan..

Posted by: Deaf and Dumb Rob Lowe at December 09, 2014 08:41 PM (z+L6U)

234 133 Sheriff Clarke of Milwaukee was burning down twitter last night. He said a bunch of stuff, one being that Holder is just an upscale Sharpton.
Posted by: stace at December 09, 2014 07:49 PM (ImzkZ)

Get him on the ballot.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at December 09, 2014 08:41 PM (uSAVP)

235 Embarreling now. God bless the kids, though.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 09, 2014 08:41 PM (yxw0r)

236 The media is leaving the impression it was done to as basically torture rape to demean and demoralize the prisoner.

My understanding is that it was part of forced feeding and rehydration of prisoners on hunger strike.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:41 PM (ZPrif)

237 I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
----------------

Yes! Same thing I said..

Posted by: Jon Gruber at December 09, 2014 08:41 PM (vPh3W)

238 220 I just saw the news about the $1B in the Senate budget for assistance to Central American immigrants who are "resettling" in the U.S. The needle on my ragestroke-o-meter is officially buried. My level of surprise is nil. Thanks, Boner.
Posted by: PabloD at December 09, 2014 08:37 PM (NkEH0)

Just the down payment

Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 09, 2014 08:41 PM (WNERA)

239 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, a solid man at December 09, 2014 08:36 PM

Admit it...you pulled that from the Bulwer-Lytton contest, didn't you?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 09, 2014 08:41 PM (CKShi)

240 Come to me...

Posted by: The Barrel at December 09, 2014 08:41 PM (e3EDw)

241 Barrel!

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at December 09, 2014 08:42 PM (9BRsg)

242 bob

meet barrel

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:42 PM (zOTsN)

243 Sorry, I've got to b*tch for a second. On the sidebar from now on, can we flag if the links go to sh*t lib sites?

The Washington Post is pure evil. I just looked at the link there about a woman with bared legs in Afghanistan... and it's the last time i'll ever give them a click.

Other than inside a couple of quotes toward the end of the article, nowhere does the author mention the source of the "scorn" she received. No mention of the words "Muslim" or "Islam". Just that when the Russians came in, attitudes toward women there "changed"... and also that the attitudes toward women there are "ultra-conservative". Yes, that's a purposeful use of that word.

Sick, demented liberal f*cks, I hate them.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 09, 2014 08:42 PM (QCo5R)

244 >>perhaps Petraus has found his balls

Unfortunately, in a bimbo's mouth.

Posted by: Aviator at December 09, 2014 08:42 PM (3rrMW)

245 Posted by: TVoC Hates Big Government at December 09, 2014 08:37 PM (XzRw1)

No he didn't.

He apologized for stupidly saying he was a thieving lying asshole.

He meant to deny all that.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 08:42 PM (RZzX3)

246
I'm almost done uploading the Smoky Mountain Christmas album to youtube.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 09, 2014 08:42 PM (z+L6U)

247 Robert, The Flannel - Gadzooks!

Posted by: Jon Gruber at December 09, 2014 08:42 PM (vPh3W)

248 Bob to the Barrel, stat!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 09, 2014 08:43 PM (CKShi)

249 Don't cut and paste directly from Word or another website.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 09, 2014 08:43 PM (2ZvEW)

250 hell yes its to demoralize them

psy ops

and I do not give a shit if they filled a pool in there

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:43 PM (zOTsN)

251 Jim Treacher @jtLOL
In a 1,200-word essay justifying her false accusation of rape, @lenadunham devotes exactly 8 words to expressing any regret whatsoever.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:44 PM (ZPrif)

252 Really, they made enemy combatants wear underwear on their heads, poured water up their noses, and had dogs bark at them.

I've been subjected to worse at frat parties.

No fucks left to give.

Posted by: Rhubarb Ranch at December 09, 2014 08:44 PM (IlQaj)

253 That flannel shirt will keep you warm in the barrel.

Posted by: Aviator at December 09, 2014 08:44 PM (3rrMW)

254 Why couldn't President Bush have been more like my mentor the Reverend Jim Jones? He never tortured anyone.

Posted by: Sen. Dianne Feinstein at December 09, 2014 08:44 PM (nFdGS)

255 220 I just saw the news about the $1B in the Senate budget for assistance to Central American immigrants who are "resettling" in the U.S. The needle on my ragestroke-o-meter is officially buried. My level of surprise is nil. Thanks, Boner.

Posted by: PabloD at December 09, 2014 08:37 PM (NkEH0)

Which is more than will be 'saved' by not giving the military their full cost of living increase....

You get more of what you reward, you get less of what you punish...

Thus, more Illegals, less of those who Defend you...

And this, Ladies and Gentlemen, is YOUR GOP.

Posted by: Big Bad Wolf, Howling at the Moon at December 09, 2014 08:44 PM (f0pWu)

256 Hmm, Hagel, now Brennan. Who's next?

I'm watching Gowdy grill Grima Wormtongue. It's a natural mood elevator.

That bloated wood tick Cummings is only upset that this is a public relations fiasco.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at December 09, 2014 08:45 PM (KH1sk)

257 I suggest an Ewok outline to identify us morons.
Too similar to a Lena silhouette.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 09, 2014 08:45 PM (2ZvEW)

258 At the hearing today, Cummings was outraged with Gruber..., because he spoke the truth on video.

Posted by: Jon Gruber at December 09, 2014 08:46 PM (vPh3W)

259 where is ms dunhams bloated opus explaining her libel

I doubt very much she listened to her attorneys

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:46 PM (zOTsN)

260 Secession. Now.

Posted by: Jmel at December 09, 2014 08:46 PM (cfFqn)

261 / gruber sock

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:47 PM (vPh3W)

262 How are we not psychologically destroying these people?
They are weak.

Brian Faughnan @BrianFaughnan
Ugh. #Hoyasaxa RT @AP: Law students at Harvard, Columbia, Georgetown seek exam delays after Brown, Garner cases: apne.ws/1Gh1BDR

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 08:47 PM (ZPrif)

263 90 NYT called Cheney Torture Apologist!
Posted by: Carol at December 09, 2014 07:39 PM (sj3Ax)

He should wear it as a badge of honor.

Posted by: Dick Cheney's Discarded Heart at December 09, 2014 08:47 PM (ENczY)

264 BREAKING, MSNBC: Ronan Farrow still has a job.

Posted by: flounder at December 09, 2014 08:47 PM (sDapq)

265 Too similar to a Lena silhouette.

Because if it's not from Idaho, it's just a spud?

Posted by: ArooFluke County at December 09, 2014 08:47 PM (KG1MP)

266 Sick, demented liberal f*cks, I hate them.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 09, 2014 08:42 PM (QCo5R)

...don't candy coat it. tell it to us straight. lol.

Posted by: I'm with u at December 09, 2014 08:47 PM (HRo7B)

267 "I suggest an Ewok outline to identify us morons."

I suggest "Pudding is an excellent skin softener"

Countersign is "The ewok stinks of garbage."

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 09, 2014 08:48 PM (GDulk)

268 Boehner told you all what he was going to do.

BEFORE the election.

Ever hear the story about the frog and scorpion?

yeah the frog didn't have any excuse either.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 08:48 PM (RZzX3)

269 >>where is ms dunhams bloated opus explaining her libel

Buzzfeed. Where else would it be?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2014 08:48 PM (g1DWB)

270 All Hail - are you watching the whole thing..., it's worth it. You can just FF by the Dems..., they only deflect, ask no real questions.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:48 PM (vPh3W)

271 students aren't weak

they are gaming the system

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:48 PM (zOTsN)

272 The Bull Connor Colonic?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 09, 2014 08:49 PM (ZfUN7)

273 how about

it puts the lotion in the basket

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:49 PM (zOTsN)

274 BREAKING, MSNBC: Ronan Farrow still has a job
Posted by: flounder at December 09, 2014 08:47 PM (sDapq)

And yet Mother of the Year Chelsea Clinton doesn't.

Where do they draw the line?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 08:49 PM (RZzX3)

275 Peruvia is lovely this time of year

Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:49 PM (zOTsN)

276 O,Come O,Come Emmanuel is my favorite Advent song, MikeH.
At least this thread is less contentious than the Upton/Diaz crap.

Posted by: LadyS at December 09, 2014 08:50 PM (5dip8)

277 Posted by: ThunderB at December 09, 2014 08:49 PM (zOTsN)

Nah, if it's the only fun we will ever have in the camps there *has* to be pudding and ewoks.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 09, 2014 08:50 PM (GDulk)

278 268
Boehner told you all what he was going to do.

and yet the ignorant fuckstains in oHIo voted him back in with overwhelming numbers. Thanks Fuckeye cocksuckers.

Posted by: TVoC Hates Big Government at December 09, 2014 08:50 PM (XzRw1)

279 "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice."

Posted by: Somethin some conservative guy said. at December 09, 2014 08:51 PM (vPh3W)

280 Posted by: Bob from table9 at December 09, 2014 08:11 PM (WNERA)

And for the record?

Gitmo was a great place when I was there (US Navy) in the early 80s.

GREAT diving... beaches... a few eateries... cheap with a good steak... beer... although lacking in Senoritas back then..

It WOULD be club Med.... except for the Prison...

Posted by: Big Bad Wolf, Howling at the Moon at December 09, 2014 08:51 PM (f0pWu)

281 I suggest an Ewok outline to identify us morons.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at December 09, 2014 08:38 PM (uSAVP)

The password is "yub-yub", y'all.

Posted by: filbert at December 09, 2014 08:51 PM (h6Mpm)

282 OK.... so Spys are supposed to be mean, break the rules.. be underhanded and sneaky...

The CIA are our Spies.... we PAY them to do things we do not let our Police do...

So... now we are surprised that they do the things we PAY them to do????

Its like castigating the Military for blowing things up..... dumb...

Posted by: Big Bad Wolf, Howling at the Moon at December 09, 2014 08:52 PM (f0pWu)

283 Nah, if it's the only fun we will ever have in the camps there *has* to be pudding and ewoks.
Posted by: Polliwog
-----------------

If Camp Banhammer is any example, you'll get cold gruel made from ground-up Kaboom boxes, and trolls.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:52 PM (vPh3W)

284 "Angels We Have Heard on High"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:53 PM (vPh3W)

285 OK.... so Spys are supposed to be mean, break the rules.. be underhanded and sneaky...
-------------

I put a stop to that.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at December 09, 2014 08:54 PM (vPh3W)

286 OK.... so Spys are supposed to be mean, break the rules.. be underhanded and sneaky...
-------------

I put a stop to that.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter
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Yeh..., heh, heh..., I just about put those guys out of business.

Posted by: Billy Cliton at December 09, 2014 08:55 PM (vPh3W)

287 * shifty eyes *

I think I have taken over the thread..

Posted by: Billy Cliton at December 09, 2014 08:57 PM (vPh3W)

288 If Camp Banhammer is any example, you'll get cold gruel made from ground-up Kaboom boxes, and trolls.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:52 PM (vPh3W)

With a little catsup any thing is passable

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 08:57 PM (5es5h)

289 How would you like to be sitting in an embassy somewhere in the middle east tonight?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 09, 2014 08:58 PM (g1DWB)

290 Hi MH. What's going on..., I mean aside from the collapse of The Republic?

Picked a laptop yet?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 08:59 PM (vPh3W)

291 274 BREAKING, MSNBC: Ronan Farrow still has a job
Posted by: flounder at December 09, 2014 08:47 PM (sDapq)

And yet Mother of the Year Chelsea Clinton doesn't.

Where do they draw the line?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 08:49 PM (RZzX3)

Glass ceiling assembly not required

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 08:59 PM (5es5h)

292 Mr. Hammer good evening. In Milwaukee on business YUCK.
No laptop yet doing some research. Thinking about an HP

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:00 PM (5es5h)

293 Must depart for a few minutes...., dog.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:02 PM (vPh3W)

294 so on my work Internet I can't access the comments but when I am on Verizon lte network I can. The work Internet keeps wanting to redirect me to a vindicosuite website. Anyone else start getting this suddenly?

Posted by: Buzzion at December 09, 2014 09:03 PM (/qAlb)

295 289 How would you like to be sitting in an embassy somewhere in the middle east tonight?
Posted by: JackStraw

Fun. Knowing that the administration had my back, piece of cake.

Spits sarcasm at this worthless scum sucking administration.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:04 PM (5es5h)

296 I just assumed they got the rectal feeding thing from South Park.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at December 09, 2014 09:04 PM (zauWW)

297 What the hell--on Safari, when I try to access the comments, I get redirected to vindicosuite.com. I don't know who they are or what they sell, but I hate them, now.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 09, 2014 09:05 PM (bHnlE)

298 I'm using safari right now

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:06 PM (5es5h)

299 In schaden-news, music industry keeps collapsing. Album sales down another 15% this year.
But now iTunes sales are declining, too, as people aren't even buy online. iTunes sales are down 12-13%.

Only winner is the streaming services as people switch to that.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 09:07 PM (ZPrif)

300 This just goes to prove that there is nothing more important in Washington than politics - not American lives, not the welfare of the country - nothing.

Both side, by the way.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at December 09, 2014 09:07 PM (BZAd3)

301 Like buzzion mentioned, it started happening to me suddenly.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 09, 2014 09:07 PM (bHnlE)

302 294 re: vindicosuite

Yes, getting it here too. I'm not on verizon - AT&T wifi

Posted by: CharlieCharlie at December 09, 2014 09:08 PM (z8Tsi)

303 In Milwaukee on business YUCK.

Go to Kopps. Instant happy.

Posted by: HR at December 09, 2014 09:09 PM (ImIut)

304 Who broke the blog?

I keep getting some stupid avert.

Posted by: Infidel at December 09, 2014 09:10 PM (m7fhR)

305 303 In Milwaukee on business YUCK.

Go to Kopps. Instant happy.
Posted by: HR at December 09, 2014

Nope, not tonight. Holed up In my room with my Body guard .380

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:12 PM (5es5h)

306 Happening on safari and opera for me on my iPhone. Doesn't seem to matter what my connection is now. I have to get a lucky stop on the loading to keep it from going there.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 09, 2014 09:18 PM (z/Ubi)

307 There is nothing wrong with your television.
Do not attempt to adjust the picture.
We are now in control of the transmission.
We control the horizontal.
We control the vertical.
We can deluge you with a thousands channels, or expand one single image to crystal clarity and beyond.
We can shape your vision to anything our imagination can conceive.
For the next hour, we will control all that you see and hear.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 09:19 PM (RZzX3)

308 In schaden-news, music industry keeps collapsing. Album sales down another 15% this year. But now iTunes sales are declining, too, as people aren't even buy online. iTunes sales are down 12-13%. Only winner is the streaming services as people switch to that.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 09:07 PM

Somehow it doesn't surprise me. Some aspects of the new industry are intriguing, even exciting in it's potential and changes the dynamic of reliance on distribution, old style. But, there is something inherently suicidal in an industry that pretty much eliminates actually owning hard product. There is a danger that the product will become so disposable, that consumers will eventually turn their backs on it it and just listen .... whenever and however. Screw it.

Posted by: otho at December 09, 2014 09:20 PM (tBSrv)

309 It's strange how people won't buy crap after a certain point.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 09:20 PM (RZzX3)

310 On 'Rectal Feeding'- Majid Khan's lunch tray of hummus, pasta with sauce, nuts, and raisins was "pureed" and rectally infused.

So much for the hunger strike.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 09, 2014 09:21 PM (NaeCR)

311 Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 09, 2014 09:21 PM (NaeCR)

Guess he shouldn't have asked for that extra order of curry.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 09:22 PM (RZzX3)

312 Effing Weather Channel.

http://stories.weather.com/boom

BOOM: North America's Explosive Oil-by-Rail Problem

Gee. Guess we'd better build that Bambi-killing pipeline then, huh?

Posted by: --- at December 09, 2014 09:22 PM (MMC8r)

313 In schaden-news, music industry keeps collapsing. Album sales down another 15%

Really?

Posted by: Pop Music's same 3 chords and a cloud of dust at December 09, 2014 09:22 PM (Dwehj)

314 On 'Rectal Feeding'- Majid Khan's lunch tray of hummus, pasta with sauce, nuts, and raisins was "pureed" and rectally infused.

No dessert?

INHUMANE!

Posted by: --- at December 09, 2014 09:23 PM (MMC8r)

315 There is a danger that the product will become so disposable, that consumers will eventually turn their backs on it it and just listen .... whenever and however. Screw it.
Posted by: otho
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I simply haven't heard anything in years that I would buy. But then, I'm a throwback to an era of harmony, melody, meaningful lyrics, and singing that does not include yodeling and warbling.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:24 PM (F2IAQ)

316 314 On 'Rectal Feeding'- Majid Khan's lunch tray of hummus, pasta with sauce, nuts, and raisins was "pureed" and rectally infused.

No dessert?

INHUMANE!
Posted by: --- at December 09, 2014 09:23 PM (MMC8r

Side dish of prunes ala mode

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:24 PM (5es5h)

317
Anyone reminded of all the bullshit "testimony" by the likes of frauds such as john kerry on all the US's atrocities in Viet Nam?

The village burnings, the baby killing, etc. All the accusations that beared out to be false.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 09, 2014 09:25 PM (z+L6U)

318 314

No dessert?

INHUMANE!

Posted by: --- at December 09, 2014 09:23 PM (MMC8r)

INHUMANE?

Posted by: Reverend Al at December 09, 2014 09:25 PM (bHnlE)

319
This Senate report on the Bush admin's "torture" is pretty much the Rolling Stone rape story -- fake but something happened in those interrogations.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Imaginary Home For Incorrigible Boys & Girls at December 09, 2014 09:26 PM (z+L6U)

320 and singing that does not include yodeling and warbling

Don't forget the stupid, ubiquitous ukelele.

Posted by: Pop Music's same 3 chords and a cloud of dust at December 09, 2014 09:26 PM (Dwehj)

321 Couldn't happen to a better bunch of people.
Screw it, and them.
They'd all be serenading the trains taking people to the camps.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, (the stars burn bitterly clear): at December 09, 2014 09:26 PM (OCcU9)

322 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:24 PM (F2IAQ)

So, not a fan of Jan and Dean "Baby Talk"?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 09, 2014 09:27 PM (RZzX3)

323 I simply haven't heard anything in years that I would buy. But then, I'm a throwback to an era of harmony, melody, meaningful lyrics, and singing that does not include yodeling and warbling.

Posted by Mike Hammer

I would agree with that Mike, plus the artists I enjoy are either retired, dead or putting out little new stuff

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:27 PM (5es5h)

324 Is that popping up for anyone anymore. I couldn't comment or anything once that thing started popping.

Changed connection and everything seems fine.

Posted by: Ricardo KIll at December 09, 2014 09:31 PM (qGes1)

325 UVA Alum to President: "Are you just f*cking insane?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:31 PM (F2IAQ)

326 "the artists I enjoy are either retired, dead or putting out little new stuff"

Quite so. Just about everything I need is already on the iPod. (and all fully paid for)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, (the storm winds clamor their grief): at December 09, 2014 09:32 PM (OCcU9)

327 Riccardo - You must have attracted the attention of the NSA

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:33 PM (F2IAQ)

328 If the Republicans in the Senate had any balls, they would release a new Senate Report on Terror in January simply stating "Everything in that last Senate Report was pretty much bullshit". Let's see how much coverage that Senate report will get.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 09, 2014 09:36 PM (BXkFh)

329 Jim Treacher @jtLOL 2h
"This campus Republican named Barry raped me."
"No I didn't."
"Oh. Well... why is everybody blaming me for getting raped?!?"
@LenaDunham

Posted by: Costanza Defense at December 09, 2014 09:36 PM (ZPrif)

330 325 UVA Alum to President: "Are you just f*cking insane?"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:31 PM

My youngest is in a sorority. She can't believe UVA suspended sororities when they had nothing to do with anything wrong.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:36 PM (5es5h)

331 Welcome to Zero Tolerance of Everything.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, (a bugle, the gods defied!): at December 09, 2014 09:38 PM (OCcU9)

332 My youngest is in a sorority. She can't believe UVA suspended sororities when they had nothing to do with anything wrong.
Posted by: Misanthropic
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"Fair", as defined by a Left/Liberal means sacrifice by the normal to the abnormal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:39 PM (F2IAQ)

333 simply haven't heard anything in years that I would buy. But then, I'm a throwback to an era of harmony, melody, meaningful lyrics, and singing that does not include yodeling and warbling.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:24 PM

I hear you, I'm pretty much the same. Bought a handful of good albums over the last x decades. It's not that there's nothing out there. There is. But the industry has changed and one of the things that the old label system had in it's favour, for the consumer, was a kind of built in quality filter. Only a certain amount would be released and you perused it via radio play or platters spun at friends places etc... You had, by today's standard, limited choice, but, the acts on sale commonly had a lot of work and time invested in the eventual product... you could always hear something you'd want to buy.
Today there's no filter, so instead of being limited by distribution/promotion muscle, the artist is hampered by noise... there's so much stuff by released, easily, by acts that may not even have played live etc, that it's hard to get noticed. I for one, couldn't be bothered, generally, wading through all this chaff, in the hope of finding something awesome.
There are some wonderful aspects to the new industry, acts that back in the day may not have gotten a look in with the labels, are now getting a fan base directly, with no middle man... but these a very few and far between.

Posted by: otho at December 09, 2014 09:41 PM (tBSrv)

334 That Was the Week That Was.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Curmudgeon Extraordinaire

Jeebus and General Joseph, you are an old fart!

I haven't heard of TW3 in years. We'll be talking of Jack Paar next.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 09, 2014 09:41 PM (l3vZN)

335
Posted by: Misanthropic
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"Fair", as defined by a Left/Liberal means sacrifice by the normal to the abnormal.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:39 PM (F2IAQ)

Agreed. And things are not improving

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:41 PM (5es5h)

336 In any compromise between food and poison death is the only winner.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, (new centuries scream at birth): at December 09, 2014 09:42 PM (OCcU9)

337 otho - A succinct appraisal

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:42 PM (F2IAQ)

338 I think this partisan bashing of our security agencies is just fine.. it is beautiful.

In the next two years, if we are hit, and the likelihood that we will be is very high, then we can shove this shit in their faces and put an even stronger conservative in the White House.

The libtards are feeding us with every stupid fucking move they make.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 09, 2014 09:43 PM (/9Mak)

339 Only if the voters actually see the man behind the curtain.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 09, 2014 09:44 PM (OCcU9)

340 The libtards are feeding us with every stupid fucking move they make.
Posted by: Chi
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Problem : The electorate will only hear the narrative of the MSM

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2014 09:45 PM (F2IAQ)

341 My youngest is in a sorority. She can't believe UVA suspended sororities when they had nothing to do with anything wrong.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:36 PM (5es5h)

All the students in the suspended Greek clubs should simply go to the registrar, and say, "I'm quitting this shithole University. Give me my tuition back, or face a lawsuit. And forget about any more alumni donations from Greek alumni, ever."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 09, 2014 09:46 PM (8Fl6F)

342 test

Posted by: L, elle at December 09, 2014 09:46 PM (2x3L+)

343
The libtards are feeding us with every stupid fucking move they make.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 09, 2014 09:43 PM (/

In a rational world your theory is 100% correct. However due to the MSM & LIVs I don't see a strong con being elected, hit or not hit.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:48 PM (5es5h)

344 There are some wonderful aspects to the new
industry, acts that back in the day may not have gotten a look in with
the labels, are now getting a fan base directly, with no middle man...
but these a very few and far between.

Posted by: otho
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Amen!

My son-in-law is doing recording full-time in his basement. He has a very nice professional setup and produces some good sounding music.

This is music that would have, in the past, never ordinarily ever be produced.

But these bands are paying their own way.

That said, a lot of it is crap. Crappy lyrics.. no bridges or refrains.. a lot of times no chorus. I can live with all that, but the songwriting quality doesn't match up with the musicality, if you know what I mean. It sounds nice, but the songs are crap. Ear candy for the younger generation.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 09, 2014 09:50 PM (/9Mak)

345 All the students in the suspended Greek clubs should simply go to the registrar, and say, "I'm quitting this shithole University. Give me my tuition back, or face a lawsuit. And forget about any more alumni donations from Greek alumni, ever."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 09, 2014 09:46

Unfortunately or fortunately, on your point of view. She graudates in May 2015.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:51 PM (5es5h)

346 Exactly, if we get hit, it will be because of "obstructionist Republicans" and the shutdown.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, (the stars burn bitterly clear): at December 09, 2014 09:51 PM (OCcU9)

347 ONT is NOOD!

Posted by: ColdBeer1 (Slap) at December 09, 2014 09:51 PM (16bOT)

348 In a rational world your theory is 100% correct. However due to the MSM
LIVs I don't see a strong con being elected, hit or not hit.
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I tend to agree with you.. and maybe I am being overly optimistic. But, it seems to me the mood of the country is changing..

I was heartened by the elections last month, but so few came out it is hard to tell..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 09, 2014 09:52 PM (/9Mak)

349 I was heartened by the elections last month, but so few came out it is hard to tell..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December

I was heartened as well. Ok for about a week until Boner screwed us again

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, on the road & not happy about it at December 09, 2014 09:55 PM (5es5h)

350
Is it just me or is the comments link for the ONT screwed up. I cannot get to them after trying on two different devices.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at December 09, 2014 10:07 PM (/dvmK)

351 350. Same here.

Posted by: Santa's NSA connection at December 09, 2014 10:20 PM (5gMOq)

352 Not true. Kerry actually did kill a baby. But he never testified on that, oddly.

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