The Brutal Shifts in Demographic Groups That Doomed Us

I started bolding the important parts but I stopped because it's all bold-faced important.

According to preliminary exit polling data from an SSRS Voter Poll, Latino men shifted 33-points toward Republicans in 2024 before swinging 24 points back toward Democrats in 2026. Latinos overall moved 27-points right before shifting 20-points left last night, while Catholics followed a 25-point Republican swing with a 16-point Democratic reversal.
The biggest reversal came among voters ages 18-29, whose 13-point shift toward Republicans in 2024 was overwhelmed by a 35-point swing toward Democrats last night. Suburban voters swung 20 points toward Democrats after moving six points right in 2024, while Asian voters shifted 25 points left after moving 12 points right.
The losses also extended to groups often associated with the Republican base. Men shifted four-points toward Republicans between 2020 and 2024, then swung 11 points toward Democrats in the preliminary 2026 results. Voters without a college degree moved 11 points right in 2024 before shifting seven-points back left, while households earning $50,000--$99,999 followed a 20-point Republican shift with an 11-point Democratic reversal. Even rural and small-town voters moved 15-points right before swinging 11 points back toward Democrats.

Did the electorate decide we were too "harsh" on immigration by deporting illegals, including dangerous predatory illegal alien criminals?

Maybe. Keep in mind, people are stupid and weak-minded. We've seen for decades that the public agrees that taxes should be cut and that the budget should be balanced, but then cry that you're being too meeeean when you actually cut government spending and firing goldbricking federal "workers" at useless money-pits like USAID.

They want all the benefits of fiscal sanity without the meeeean actions required to enact it.

Similary, the public may have decided they don't like open borders or illegals flooding our nation. But they think it's too meeeean to actually seal the borders and deport the illegals.

Remember when Kamala Harris' big contribution as Border Czar was to say to illegals, "Don't come"?

It could be that the sad fact is that while the public does want the border secured, the "meanest" action they will accept to secure it is a drunken sixty-year-old ex-partygirl mistress telling people "Don't come." Anything more than that is "extreme."

Update: I wonder if, starting six months ago, Trump let up on the deportation raids. And then restarted them after the midterms -- similar to his easing off on Iran with the promise of action after the midterms.

It is pretty firmly established that gas prices drove votes.

Note that in the below graph, the price of gas is inverted so that high prices are represented by the line going down and low prices are shown by the line going up.

It is done this way to show the very close alignment with Trump's approval rate. As the price of gas goes up, Trump's approval goes down.

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— Linda Quinn (@ljquinn) November 4, 2026

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Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:16 PM

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1 Uep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 02:17 PM (r2Icn)

2 I have stop reading, I’m so depressed

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 04, 2026 02:17 PM (nGraA)

3 > Latino men shifted 33-points toward Republicans in 2024 before swinging 24 points back toward Democrats in 2026.
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maybe they were offended by all the deportations

Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that all is not lost yet at November 04, 2026 02:18 PM (ZxPkt)

4
Is MAGA dead? Sort of looks like it.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2026 02:19 PM (OkYzo)

5 wait my nic needs a bit of punctuation-

Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that all is not lost- yet at November 04, 2026 02:19 PM (ZxPkt)

6 The biggest reversal came among voters ages 18-29, whose 13-point shift toward Republicans in 2024 was overwhelmed by a 35-point swing toward Democrats last night.

The National Education Association will be center stage at the Democrat National Convention, taking their bows for the dumbing down of America.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2026 02:19 PM (2WIwB)

7 Ace,

There is no "below graph."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (k5CNB)

8 How much of this is real, and how much is just better ballot harvesting?

How much of this would have been sustained under the SAVE act?

Especially in midterms with low turnout, I want to know if fewer Rs voted, or if more D ballots were gathered.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (8nUmk)

9 What happened to the "let it burn" guy. I've changed my mind. I may be interested in his newsletter.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (YxYV6)

10 Here is a question, did Trump ever fiddle with the strategic reserve?

I remember Obama doing it around election time every 2 years. If it really was the price of gas that killed us (and the country) a little bit of that Obama special sauce might have changed things.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (sKqQm)

11 Yeah, back to business as usual come January

the deep state can't be killed

Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that all is not lost- yet at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (ZxPkt)

12 I'm not convinced it wasn't an op. Another election steal. It's way too neat and tidy an explanation.

Plus we were warned about an attempted color revolution with recriminations regardless how it played out.

But I'll settle for voter stupidity and/lor apathy.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (RORbl)

13 How was overall turnout? I can't tell if people voting in '24 just voted the other way in '26, or did large numbers stay home leaving the pro lefty voters as a larger % of the vote.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (r7+Q7)

14 In a country full of adult children, Santa Claus is king.

Posted by: It's Free! It's Free! at November 04, 2026 02:21 PM (2mAEd)

15 They took a risk, they got burned, they paid it back in spades.

Another Generational chance flushed down the toilet cause Republicans just had to go for that illusional carrot on the end of the stick called The BoogeyIran...

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 02:21 PM (lLeLE)

16 11 Here is a question, did Trump ever fiddle with the strategic reserve?

I remember Obama doing it around election time every 2 years. If it really was the price of gas that killed us (and the country) a little bit of that Obama special sauce might have changed things.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (sKqQm)

Trump heavily depleted the SPR.

Posted by: Don't Blame Me, Silly at November 04, 2026 02:21 PM (kIQFA)

17 In this time of dismay, I recall the advice of Rush Limbaugh...the best revenge against the left is to live well.
As I gaze out into my sunset years, that is exactly what I plan to do. Shoot my guns, smoke my cigars, drink good whiskey, eat good food, and love my family and my God.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2026 02:22 PM (2WIwB)

18 >>>There is no "below graph."

you can't see the Mollie Hemingway post?

Posted by: ace at November 04, 2026 02:22 PM (1wjle)

19 Biden drew down the SPR to the lowest levels ever recorded to reduce gas prices during his tenure.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 02:22 PM (8Uo7a)

20 So it wasn't gas prices and Johnson and the stupid war in Vietnam?

We wanted the border sealed and illegals deported. Not everyone did.

Still worth it.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 02:22 PM (viF8m)

21 It seems that gas prices drove votes.
.......

Just wait until Becerra gets his mileage tax.
Oopty. Shoulda voted for Hilton, dummies.

Posted by: wth at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (UjdFS)

22 can people see the Mollie Hemingway graph?

Posted by: ace at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (1wjle)

23 Aren't "Catholiics" and "Lationos" mostly the same thing?

(Yes, I know there are European heritage Catholics, but they are overwhelmed by South of Borders.)

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (8nUmk)

24 10 What happened to the "let it burn" guy. I've changed my mind. I may be interested in his newsletter.
Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (YxYV6)

I'm currently hoping to run into the let it burn guy and the other one that wanted to scatter the stones and pour salt where it stood guy. But alas, i've been gone for so long I have forgotten their names.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (lLeLE)

25 To sum up, the Democrats persuaded more people to believe they would do what they say and fix things and so be it.

This is almost a truism.

But for example here is what I posted in the last thread:

Oh I was amused by this - I was reading a farcebook thread where someone got a bunch of quotes from lefties about how if they took congress they would lower the costs of food, rent, etc and said, "ok you won now deliver on your promises!"

Every response from a leftest was some variant on, "Hey we can't fix problems like this in 2 years, in fact, it would probably get worst until we get rid of Trump"

The preliminary data supports Alex the Chick's view. But the Dems are already telling people "you gave us such a big win we don't even need to pretend to care about the stuff we told you...suckers!"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (sKqQm)

26 I did enjoy seeing Thune on the campaign trail to support GOP candidates. A true profile in courage.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (YxYV6)

27 14 How was overall turnout? I can't tell if people voting in '24 just voted the other way in '26, or did large numbers stay home leaving the pro lefty voters as a larger % of the vote.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (r7+Q7)

Republican turnout was similar to 2022. Democrat turnout jumped quite a bit relative to 2022.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (okun6)

28 But but but "gas prices have historically had no effect on election outcomes" Commenter stated this authoritatively.

Posted by: Past performance does not predict future events at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (anL5R)

29 I think the "it's too mean" theory makes sense, it might be what happened. However, it doesn't work the other way around. We don't have a media or culture that says "it's too mean" when the left is actually fucking damaging. It's a waste of time to talk about why, we all know the left has no standards. When our freedoms and liberty are flushed down the toilet, the pop culture will applaud.

I haven't fully comprehended what has happened. Intellectually, I know that America is gone.

Posted by: Johnny Cakes at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (0OHKH)

30
Spitballing here but I think some of the over stayed visas or expired refugee status visas were too harsh.

And Homan should have focused gangs and other thugs primarily.

I know the media would have propped up anyone as doctor or engineer who may have offed a family or two over a few ounces of meth in the past.. BUT.. he'sTurnHisLifeAround and AGoodBoyNow

Posted by: Blanco at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (sW/8y)

31 I bet that Marshmallow was delicious, though.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (/izzV)

32 The "Youts" thought Trump was cool before the 24' election because he went on Theo Vaughn's show and Rogens.... They've turned on him so not cool anymore... Hispanics ? ... I think it's ICE.. Removing a few criminals was fine but they started picking up lesser criminals and that was a no, no...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (+gK6I)

33 I miss AtC.

Posted by: Butch at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (98xTj)

34 i posted the graph in the actual post, in case the embedded tweet wasn't showing up.

it showed up for me but maybe it wasn't showing for others.

Posted by: ace at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (1wjle)

35 AllenG.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (8Uo7a)

36 Its working class people still feeling intense pressure from inflation, and they happen to be a lot of latinos in that group. That's my take anyway. I dont think its Hispanics angry at ICE.

I do think though Trump handled immigration in some dumb ways, like just sort of raiding cities and a handful get grabbed. There's so many better ways to do this.

Just the IRS getting aggressive would probably nab more of this than a bunch of masked ICE agents with zip ties.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (E5QyP)

37 As I pointed out last night, what percentage of the electorate wasn't born here or are anchor babies? Whatever the number is, I'm sure it will depress me.

Posted by: pookysgirl, Hawkeye For Life at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (Wt5PA)

38 Let's get real. the electorate could've lived with closing borders (and lowering crime), and cutting worthless programs (and thus helping with national debt and interest rates). Taking on Iran because we are the "tough party" killed us. Neocons killed us again, like they did with Bush (admittedly he was one of them, but stopping at Afghanistan might've been enough to pivot to something useful).

Posted by: John Milton's Ghost at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (XwZ28)

39 You thought Woke 1 was crazy, wait'll you see Woke 2. Gird your loins, literally and figuratively.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (9ZFZd)

40 Trump heavily depleted the SPR.
Posted by: Don't Blame Me
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My understanding is that he sold to refineries, but they are obligated to replace in kind. So he used it as a reserve, and not a piggy bank. (I am not 100% on the details though, and with Trump you never know.)

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (8nUmk)

41 I got this from @techtone

asmongold added pronouns to his 𝕏 account this morning

And he did!

Zack
@Asmongold
He/Him Professional Neckbeard

Posted by: m at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (odBC9)

42 Zero comments when I opened up the page.

Read the post, wrote my comment. And hit comment 31

Posted by: Blanco at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (sW/8y)

43 I'm not convinced it wasn't an op. Another election steal. It's way too neat and tidy an explanation.

If they had a blue wave mostly in blue states I would tend to that direction but they won big everywhere outside of the reddest of red states so I think sure we got traditional Dem levels of fraud/illegals voting but nothing like 2020...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (sKqQm)

44 Posted this last night, worth another look imo:

tinyurl.com/2u2jhapp

Posted by: JQ at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (rdVOm)

45 Latino men shifted 33-points toward Republicans in 2024 before swinging 24 points back toward Democrats in 2026."

Self reported "data"?

Hispanics are quite tribal...

The reality is that the GOP is wrecked. The "e" part is flailing around, and the rest has no idea what to do, and Trump is too busy playing ego time...

Fortunately, the Dim congress will be just as inept.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (pfXMo)

46 >>The biggest reversal came among voters ages 18-29

The good news is that today they can afford a house!

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (/izzV)

47 *Tectone

Posted by: m at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (odBC9)

48 I can see March 2027 as the start of regret. But, too late. They're going whole hog.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (r2Icn)

49 can people see the Mollie Hemingway graph?
Posted by: ace

This people can.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (bmMEr)

50 In Texas, the actual deportations are absolutely needed but have real world impacts. Trump knew that was brave enough to do it anyway. Same with Iran.

It reminds me of Churchill who was voted out in a landslide right after winning WW2.

People are fickle.

Posted by: LASue at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (lCppi)

51 Mollie's post showed for me

Posted by: Blanco at November 04, 2026 02:25 PM (sW/8y)

52 We were a nation of immigrants who were steeped in Western culture. Immigration from Magian culture in particular does not work at all.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 04, 2026 02:26 PM (2ap+5)

53 24 Aren't "Catholiics" and "Lationos" mostly the same thing?

(Yes, I know there are European heritage Catholics, but they are overwhelmed by South of Borders.)

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (8nUmk)

US Catholics are majority white, though not by a lot. There are also Hispanic Protestants. US Protestants and Catholics have extremely similar politics when adjusted for race and region.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 04, 2026 02:26 PM (okun6)

54
Latino men shifted 33-points toward Republicans in 2024 before swinging 24 points back toward Democrats in 2026."

================

Another reason to support Rubio. I don't mean to cave to identity politics, just saying they could be useful here.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 02:26 PM (mmrXZ)

55 24 Aren't "Catholiics" and "Lationos" mostly the same thing?

(Yes, I know there are European heritage Catholics, but they are overwhelmed by South of Borders.)
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (8nUmk)

Catholics don't realize The Church is making massive bucks from the Democrats in Human Trafficking in Jesus' name.

They fell for everyone one of those sob half stories about Julio, father of five wrongly deported. (oh did they forget to mention the 5 illegal pistols and kilo of coke?) So its only natural they'd follow instruction to return to their pews and to shaddap.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 02:26 PM (lLeLE)

56 6 Counterpoint by a very smart lady who would never be welcomed here:

https://tinyurl.com/4k8c3jak
Posted by: There ARE other views at November 04, 2026 02:19 PM (8RdGl)

Doesn't even seem all that controversial.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at November 04, 2026 02:26 PM (r7+Q7)

57 Overall the voters have the attention span of 6 week old puppy. The Biden admin in 2021 immediately stopped leases for oil and gas drilling on federal lands and offshore, the price of gasoline and natural gas skyrocketed. The price of everything derived from those fuels went up. Food prices went up.

And now the voters, frustrated by gas prices, give the power back to the people who will shut down oil production? A quick internet search told me that Texas produces 42% of US oil. Texas is now in the hands of Democrats. In short order oil production in the Permian basin will be shut off. And voters expect gas prices to fall???

Posted by: George V at November 04, 2026 02:27 PM (g6ahB)

58 Similary, the public may have decided they don't like open borders or illegals flooding our nation. But they think it's too meeeean to actually seal the borders and deport the illegals.
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That is a fair take and answers a question I had.

But I'm not sure that's how you go from #1 Winning Issue to #1 Losing Issue. Not by betraying the issue but by holding fast to it.

I DO see how the GOPe in particular would want it known that Trump wasn't nice enough to illegals. It proves them "right all along" (lot of it going around).

But I don't think so. Bush was so nice to illegals he nearly amnestied all of them. And paid for it in 2006. I know, different country. But this was THE winning issue two years ago, not twenty.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2026 02:27 PM (i+GzW)

59 maybe CBD meant it wasn't IMMEDIATELY below the sentence noting "The graph below."

It followed the next sentence.

Posted by: ace at November 04, 2026 02:27 PM (1wjle)

60 Reading the post mortem feels like the opening scene of Patton, with the aide reading off the losses at El Guettar to General Bradley.

Posted by: PA Dutchman at November 04, 2026 02:27 PM (aHy+X)

61 Willowed:
264 I am really hoping a lot of this is emotional release after a rough day, and then we will all gather up our wits and drive on. Y’all, the world did not end and we know it because the world did not end. We have to give this to God, and in the end, we are going to be okay.
Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (ZdaMQ

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 02:27 PM (ZdaMQ)

62 Eromeros visited our County Historical Society today, sort of a spiritual renewal after that goat cluster yesterday.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 02:27 PM (HGVVm)

63 I think closing the borders is/was very popular, it's the deporting people already here that was the problem for many. Especially since the latter was effectively demagogued as evil/fascist/racist/etc.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at November 04, 2026 02:27 PM (9ZFZd)

64 >>>I am really hoping a lot of this is emotional release after a rough day, and then we will all gather up our wits and drive on. Y’all, the world did not end and we know it because the world did not end. We have to give this to God, and in the end, we are going to be okay.
Posted by: Piper

nice.

It's also important to remember that garrett is a queer.

Posted by: ace at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (1wjle)

65
Another reason to support Rubio. I don't mean to cave to identity politics, just saying they could be useful here.

Reps have nominated a bunch of black Republicans in races primarily because of their race on the theory this would get black voters to consider them.

It hasn't worked. That's not to say black Republicans can't win, but instead they don't get a boost for being black the way black Dems do.

I suspect Hispanic Republicans work the same way

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (sKqQm)

66 36 AllenG.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (8Uo7a)

Not the hero we needed, but the hero we deserved o7

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (lLeLE)

67 Let's get real. the electorate could've lived with closing borders (and lowering crime), and cutting worthless programs (and thus helping with national debt and interest rates). Taking on Iran because we are the "tough party" killed us. Neocons killed us again, like they did with Bush (admittedly he was one of them, but stopping at Afghanistan might've been enough to pivot to something useful).
Posted by: John Milton's Ghost

==
100%

I still think most of this is immigration enforcement politically popular. But Iran was not.

And the rising energy prices trickled through everything. Find me a single consumer good that doesn't get shipped by a diesel powered truck or boat?

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (E5QyP)

68 what percentage of the electorate wasn't born here or are anchor babies"

Tell you what... walk thru the Woodlands Mall this Saturday afternoon, and note the number of conversations in English.

It'll be fewer than a dozen.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (pfXMo)

69 >>I think closing the borders is/was very popular, it's the deporting people already here that was the problem for many.

I...can't....even...

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (/izzV)

70 Another reason to support Rubio. I don't mean to cave to identity politics, just saying they could be useful here.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 02:26 PM (mmrXZ)

Yeah and at this point, I wouldn't even care if he gave 1/2 his speeches in espanol.

Posted by: beckster at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (kX27y)

71 Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (sKqQm)

I'll take "The Taint of Trump" and "Unelectable" for $500 Alex.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (lLeLE)

72 Counterpoint by a very smart lady who would never be welcomed here:

https://tinyurl.com/4k8c3jak

Posted by: There ARE other views at November 04, 2026 02:19 PM (8RdGl)

We love and miss AtC here, so I don't know what you're talking about.

Posted by: pookysgirl has been here for a bit at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (Wt5PA)

73 I'm going to sit in my corner skeptically thinking about millions of ballots flowing through the postal system like Christmas fruitcakes.

And no one interested in power wanting to prevent election fraud.

Heck, I only have a uniparty to vote for in my part of Canada, but they're pretty strict on id. Yeah, everyone is bought and paaid for, but at least theyput on an illusionof Democracy.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (Sco7b)

74 "According to preliminary exit polling data from an SSRS Voter Poll, Latino men shifted 33-points toward Republicans in 2024 before swinging 24 points back toward Democrats in 2026. Latinos overall moved 27-points right before shifting 20-points left last night, while Catholics followed a 25-point Republican swing with a 16-point Democratic reversal. "

This certainly explains how Texas could swing 25 points in just two short years.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (I43vL)

75 55
Another reason to support Rubio. I don't mean to cave to identity politics, just saying they could be useful here.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04

We need to be doing things very differently than the GOP has done, social media, messaging, campaigning that is more than junk mail. And this, you are very correct, every tool in our toolbox.

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (ZdaMQ)

76 >>It's also important to remember that garrett is a queer.

You keep hoping and hoping...I'm just not that into you bro.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (/izzV)

77
It's also important to remember that garrett is a queer.
==
and by that Ace does not mean to imply that garrett is odd, or quirky.

Posted by: explains the obvious at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (anL5R)

78 Honestly I'm not seeing anything about immigration in the forums/posts I'm reading.

Its mostly "affordability" with some "war in Iran" and a bit of "Trump's just too big of an asshole"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:30 PM (sKqQm)

79
It'll be fewer than a dozen.
Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (pfXMo)

Where is that mall? Just curious.

Posted by: beckster at November 04, 2026 02:30 PM (kX27y)

80 Ace,

There is no "below graph."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (k5CNB)

Forget it, he's rolling.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2026 02:30 PM (i+GzW)

81 5 wait my nic needs a bit of punctuation-
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that all is not lost- yet at November 04, 2026 02:19 PM (ZxPkt)

how about:

Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that all is not lost … yet at November 04, 2026 02:19 PM (ZxPkt)

Posted by: m at November 04, 2026 02:31 PM (odBC9)

82 4. We're back to MASHA....make america shit hole again

Posted by: Cn at November 04, 2026 02:31 PM (YwVHS)

83 Below graph?

That's $20 same as in town

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:31 PM (sKqQm)

84 Great summary, Ace.

Add to this mix emotion driven women (no offense, 'ettes, this isn't about you) who really detest meanness and really, really detest Trump, and who not only vote the Democrat line, but who hammer their husbands and male friends not to be mean. Not to mention the media which still has enormous power, like it or not.

I think we have a toxic soup brewing that only incredible overreach by the Democrats (which they have done) and/or a black swan event will likely change.

What was the quote? "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."

Posted by: RM at November 04, 2026 02:31 PM (ananP)

85 I'm puzzled by the abrupt drop in crude prices. Often this would predict a coming recession. FWIW, AI sez: "In U.S. financial history, there have been exactly 25 instances where crude oil prices dropped by more than 8% in a single trading day." I don't get it.

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 02:31 PM (Jr5Lq)

86 I still think most of this is immigration enforcement politically popular. But Iran was not.

And the rising energy prices trickled through everything. Find me a single consumer good that doesn't get shipped by a diesel powered truck or boat"

This. X 10,000.

Trying to divine some great meaning by studying the electorate is a fool's errand.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:31 PM (pfXMo)

87 I was at an event with a friend of mine where Rubio was the featured guest at a hotel, and all of these workers there, maids and other type orderlies come up to him after the event and asked for their picture with his, while was speaking to them in Spanish.

It would be stupid to not entertain the idea that yea, some of these would like a someone that looked like them.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:31 PM (E5QyP)

88 It could be that the gas prices and Latino men who are generally blue collar workers (no, I'm not racist) overlap quite a bit.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 04, 2026 02:31 PM (n5tGW)

89 The one issue which I know had nothing to do with the election is Israel.

That's why Ace will never talk about it.

I come here for the take-no-prisoners, vinegary opinions.

Posted by: Euridice at November 04, 2026 02:32 PM (iW81q)

90 >>Biden drew down the SPR to the lowest levels ever recorded to reduce gas prices during his tenure.

During the virus lockdown when oil was trading between $20 and $30, Trump ordered the DOE to fill the SPR. Democrats blocked it.

Every person who ever bought gas knows it was much higher under Biden. We didn't need the media to tell us, people were putting stickers on gas pumps with Biden's picture and the words "I did that!".

Latino and Asian men didn't shift to Democrats because they and only they had a bump in gas prices.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 02:32 PM (viF8m)

91 66
Reps have nominated a bunch of black Republicans in races primarily because of their race on the theory this would get black voters to consider them.

It hasn't worked. That's not to say black Republicans can't win, but instead they don't get a boost for being black the way black Dems do.

I suspect Hispanic Republicans work the same way

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (sKqQm)

I think it comes down to the giveaways. Spending like a drunken sailor is universally popular in latin america, they don't stop until they hit a crisis.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 04, 2026 02:32 PM (okun6)

92 The biggest reversal came among voters ages 18-29, whose 13-point shift toward Republicans in 2024 was overwhelmed by a 35-point swing toward Democrats last night.
--
This is not just the national party, every state and local GOP basically said, "you guys need to wait--put your future, your life, your career and family on hold: We need shore up our votes with seniors. And all these other groups.
And in a few years, if it all works out, you too will be eligible for these great tax credits!
And this stock market will really help your 401k if you're ever able to have one!"

As mentioned, the TX GOP really went out of their way to wow this group with ... a ban on hemp and porn.
Maybe they could have tossed in a ban on violent video games and higher taxes on booze and cigs, really let them know how hip an' cool you are?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 04, 2026 02:32 PM (RqSb8)

93 Trump could have illegals stampeded over cliffs without negative repercussions if gas were < $2 per gallon.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 04, 2026 02:32 PM (2ap+5)

94 Politics ends at most people's wallets, and only if they can see, everyday, the effects of it.
You can raise their taxes, but if they don't see it everyday, it doesn't affect them.
You and I knowing that the Dems will cause more financial pain to all taxpayers doesn't obviate the larger numbers to which is doesn't; they can only see what they feel every time they drive to the store, no matter that Biden caused the inflated prices, no matter that choking domestic oil production and refining makes prices at the pump higher; Biden isn't President, Trump is.

That seems to be yet another lesson here.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:32 PM (l3cgK)

95 >>I'm puzzled by the abrupt drop in crude prices. Often this would predict a coming recession. FWIW, AI sez: "In U.S. financial history, there have been exactly 25 instances where crude oil prices dropped by more than 8% in a single trading day." I don't get it.

It was a point of leverage against MAGA.

Once you move the object, you can let up on the lever.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 02:32 PM (/izzV)

96 I'm puzzled by the abrupt drop in crude prices. Often this would predict a coming recession. FWIW, AI sez: "In U.S. financial history, there have been exactly 25 instances where crude oil prices dropped by more than 8% in a single trading day." I don't get it.

==

Think of it this way, the graph is telling ups that if they keep falling , by the end of Trump's term he will be popular again! and , bonus, if they are not , Ds will be super unpopular again!

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 02:33 PM (AKptf)

97 Even my lovely wife saw Dr Amy as a sympathetic victim of Vivek after media convinced her the Mom ad was an exploitation of Dr Amy being abused as a child. I tried to explain to her this doesnt qualify Dr Amy to be governor no matter what was in the ad, but she kind of just stared at me like she hadnt considered that line of thinking.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at November 04, 2026 02:33 PM (LNz/S)

98 Where is that mall? Just curious."

Montgomery County, Texas.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:33 PM (pfXMo)

99 "People are stupid" defines the midterms.

I may be one of the few people not depressed today. Perhaps for many reasons, but chiefly because I can't control it. If I can't control anything in life I don't waste a lot of time of being depressed or filtering through why it happened.

I also have a deep faith in God.

Altho I'm not saying filtering needs to be done.

I'm simply not going to let politics win over my outlook on life. We've been through similar. I won't waste a second of my life in grief or fear over politics.

Let the trolls (who seem to be popping up here like putrid monkeypox), the Dims, the commies, rejoice today with the tic tok witches.

I pray against them every night and am not bothered.

We have two years to reverse this and we will. Once they don't have Trump to blame on the price of gas and groceries, who will they blame?

Patience, Grasshopper.

All will be well...at least in my world and optimism bubble.

Never fear as that's what they want and I will never give an inch.

Come with me:

https://tinyurl.com/3k5ysa83

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 04, 2026 02:33 PM (hzuYO)

100 It was a point of leverage against MAGA.

Once you move the object, you can let up on the lever.
Posted by: garrett

===

Irans entire military response was basically get Dems elected in the midterms and it largely worked.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:33 PM (E5QyP)

101 Wisconsin democrats went out of their way to court younger and white male voters, or at least not scare them away. Sure the top of the state ticket was a black man for governor but that's hardly a deal breaker in this era.
No, I'm talking about Ben Brist and Mitchell Berman and Trevor Jung, all of whom are non threatening white males who leaned into their masculinity. Berman featured an ad of him wearing a 1911 on his hip to go along with the baseball cap and boots and fishing rod and Golden retriever, fake as all get out but...
Ben Brist heavily leaned into his military service in his ads.

The imagery worked. We're electing one of us, not Jessica Hong in "whiteface".

To paraphrase J "A person can be smart, but people are stupid"
Indeed

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 04, 2026 02:33 PM (zafwz)

102 Maybe. Keep in mind, people are stupid and weak-minded. We've seen for decades that the public agrees that taxes should be cut and that the budget should be balanced, but then cry that you're being too meeeean when you actually cut government spending and firing goldbricking federal "workers" at useless money-pits like USAID.

They want all the benefits of fiscal sanity without the meeeean actions required to enact it.

Because we are firebreathers (relatively speaking), we spend a lot of time barking mad about how unprincipled are own pols are.

But they're probably not any more unprincipled than the electorate itself. As near as I can tell, there's really not a significant audience receptive to small government, fiscal sanity, etc.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 04, 2026 02:33 PM (HFrEr)

103 Explain how we got an Abdul ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 02:34 PM (+gK6I)

104 Honestly,
I think a whole lot of people are tired of Trump. Tired of his mouth and his insults and constant bickering with just about everyone. I think this was a referendum on him. And he still isnt listening.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 04, 2026 02:34 PM (4FeTN)

105 >>>and by that Ace does not mean to imply that garrett is odd, or quirky.

I'm trying to use your notorious homosexuality to raise the morale of the group.

Don't be so selfish, Sally. "Take one for the team." Pretend it's a high school locker room.

Posted by: ace at November 04, 2026 02:34 PM (1wjle)

106 I don't see garrett and the queers on the graph there

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 02:34 PM (enNUy)

107 Iran not popular.

Inflation not popular.

Dismissing people's concerns about the economy by bragging about the stock market was condescending.

Doing all this when the standard mid-term political headwinds are already against you made it all worse.

Hey, it sort of clears the decks a bit.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 02:34 PM (qCV5n)

108 This certainly explains how Texas could swing 25 points in just two short years.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (I43vL)

Yes, and a Texan pointed out on X:

Isabella Maria DeLuca
@IsabellaMDeLuca
·
5h
I moved from New York to Texas, and somehow woke up today in a blue state.

Republicans have become completely out of touch with reality and the very base they claim to represent.

Texas exit polling shows that the GOP’s losses were driven almost exclusively by “minority” voters.

Greg Abbott spent years begging tech companies to relocate to Texas, bringing their H-1B employees with them, the majority of whom are from India.

In Sugar Land, Texas, a 90-foot-tall statue of the Hindu god Hanuman was built. It is the tallest statue in Texas and the fourth tallest in the United States.

We have fully functioning Sharia communities, along with Sharia courts and schools.

Three mosques in Texas are funded, staffed, and directly controlled by the Turkish government.

Abbott’s largest donor is a Muslim Pakistani who has contributed more than $14 million, including $2 million this year alone.

Posted by: beckster at November 04, 2026 02:34 PM (kX27y)

109 nice.

It's also important to remember that garrett is a queer.
Posted by: ace at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (1wjle

And has bad shoes. But we all have flaws and we all have moments. John Thune’s rat fink face made me eat an Oreo yesterday. It was terrible, by the way.

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 02:34 PM (ZdaMQ)

110 86 I'm puzzled by the abrupt drop in crude prices. Often this would predict a coming recession. FWIW, AI sez: "In U.S. financial history, there have been exactly 25 instances where crude oil prices dropped by more than 8% in a single trading day." I don't get it.

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 02:31 PM (Jr5Lq)

Well the physical crude supply is fine, it's mostly been held up by speculation of a serious renewal of the war.

There was a bigger oil price spike when Russia invaded Ukraine though Russian oil didn't actually exit the market. ie a 0 disruption event.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 04, 2026 02:34 PM (okun6)

111 So many will suffer, and yet my fields of fuck are barren.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:35 PM (JM5dG)

112 Young people are in favor of policies that would drive the elderly from their homes. It seems within the realm of possibility that property taxes would be variable depending upon the age of the owners.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 04, 2026 02:35 PM (2ap+5)

113 "In U.S. financial history, there have been exactly 25 instances where crude oil prices dropped by more than 8% in a single trading day." I don't get it.
Posted by: gp

=====

It was being held, in order to create the appearance of scarcity, by people whose motivation was not profit. Mission accomplished, now it's time to unload the holdings.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 04, 2026 02:35 PM (zw6DJ)

114 Looking at the results across the country I suspect Vivek was already way behind when he made the ad with Acton's mother. Whether it hurt or helped it was probably a good choice.

The thing I still find interesting about that ad is that while there are certainly cases where a mother is willing to overlook her new man molesting her daughter (just read your local crime reports), mother Acton must have been damn sure her daughter was lying to make that ad - and after years of living with the guy that was accused...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:35 PM (sKqQm)

115 I read an interesting article on IQ and what it really represents. Essentially, anyone under a 100 is unable to see anything clearly beyond the present moment. This, statistically, represents roughly half the population. They just ping pong based on today's input.

Posted by: Lando at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (Xwhke)

116 Even my lovely wife saw Dr Amy as a sympathetic victim of Vivek after media convinced her the Mom ad was an exploitation of Dr Amy being abused as a child. I tried to explain to her this doesnt qualify Dr Amy to be governor no matter what was in the ad, but she kind of just stared at me like she hadnt considered that line of thinking.
Posted by: Bad Andrew

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I dont even think it would have mattered on candidate quality. In a normal election, sure, but even people like Abbot went down in TX, He was hardly some controversial figure.

Voters wanted to punish Trump and anyone with an R after their name got hit.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (E5QyP)

117 sort of clears the decks a bit.
Like a coca cola douche.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (GRuRn)

118 107 I don't see garrett and the queers on the graph there
Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 02:34 PM (enNUy)

They're shy.

Posted by: m at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (odBC9)

119 the TX GOP really went out of their way to wow this group with ... a ban on hemp and porn."

Meanwhile, allow development of huge areas for recent immigrants and such.

Thanks Abbott!

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (pfXMo)

120 m, that is better

OT, re: Iran

the Shah-In-Waiting seems to have completely disappeared

Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that all is not lost... yet at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (ZxPkt)

121 70 >>I think closing the borders is/was very popular, it's the deporting people already here that was the problem for many.

I...can't....even...
Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM (/izzV)

You don't think there are a lot of people that say "Sure, we should not allow more people in, but how can we kick out those already building lives here, especially using gestapo tactics?"

Not my feelings. I'm unhappy we haven't got a lot more out. Again, I think the issue was demagogued very well by the Left. I know people who are here quite legally that are irrationally afraid they're going to be deported.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (9ZFZd)

122 Even my lovely wife saw Dr Amy as a sympathetic victim of Vivek after media convinced her the Mom ad was an exploitation of Dr Amy being abused as a child. I tried to explain to her this doesnt qualify Dr Amy to be governor no matter what was in the ad, but she kind of just stared at me like she hadnt considered that line of thinking.
==
Pretty sure Vivek knew he was losing and felt he had nothing to lose.

Like i said, she makes Kamala Harris look sober. A couple of friends who vote maga said it wouldn't bother them is she got elected because the ohio senate and house is under R control. I laughed and pointed out that some decades ago a dipshit governor invested Ohio's rainy day funds into stamps and baseball card collectibles. What could go wrong????

Posted by: explains the obvious at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (anL5R)

123 "Once you move the object, you can let up on the lever."

I wouldn't rule out manipulation, but how do they do it?

"Think of it this way, the graph is telling "

Not that graph. The current crude price drop, this week.

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (Jr5Lq)

124 Boy, are voters going to be surprised by how much gas prices "come down" now....

If they can't afford groceries because of high gas prices (none of them make the connection between the cost of gas going up being tied to grocery prices going up), they are really going to be squawking over the next few years.

Dems are hopelessly tied to shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to energy policy, and the dummies they just voted in have absolutely no idea how business works.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (SRRAx)

125 Oil price is down to $87 a barrel an 8% decrease today. Interesting

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (8VNAp)

126 But they're probably not any more unprincipled than the electorate itself. As near as I can tell, there's really not a significant audience receptive to small government, fiscal sanity, etc.

A non-trivial portion of the electorate vote solely on who they think will give them more money

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:37 PM (sKqQm)

127 2 things - It's kinda funny everybody was talking about each of these races and what they meant when all along it wasn't local at all, it was national.

And it is irony that Trump lowered prices early that everybody forgot biden's raising them and he got crushed because of the war and they went up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 04, 2026 02:37 PM (n5tGW)

128 Hey, I found one! It's on topic, too. 2018, but I don't know what handle I posted it under before this.

---
I've been convinced for a while that we need to just accept that the country is lost within the next 12-15 years or so because at least half the South will turn blue by then...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I'm No Longer Selling ARs Until My $300 Ones Will Go For $1000 at March 18, 2018 06:47 AM (JTMqu)

Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 04, 2026 02:37 PM (QbkqR)

129 I tried to explain to her this doesnt qualify Dr Amy to be governor no matter what was in the ad, but she kind of just stared at me like she hadnt considered that line of thinking.
Posted by: Bad Andrew

This encapsulates the electorate. Myopic and without reasoning and common sense.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 02:37 PM (r2Icn)

130 >>. I'm puzzled by the abrupt drop in crude prices. Often this would predict a coming recession. FWIW, AI sez: "In U.S. financial history, there have been exactly 25 instances where crude oil prices dropped by more than 8% in a single trading day." I don't get it.

Posted by: gp

huh

Posted by: ace at November 04, 2026 02:38 PM (1wjle)

131 There is also a lesson here (that we already know) about Socialism: it's all built up on hopium. Doesn't matter what the reality truly produces, it's the promise of a Utopian future, only if you can just keep the souffle from going flat, like it always does and always will, because the failure of socialism is human nature, and human nature is something you just can't change.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:38 PM (l3cgK)

132 Yes, and a Texan pointed out on X:

Isabella Maria DeLuca
@IsabellaMDeLuca"

She nails it. Perfectly.

FWIW, exit polls are beyond worthless...

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:38 PM (pfXMo)

133 70 >>I think closing the borders is/was very popular, it's the deporting people already here that was the problem for many.

I...can't....even...
Posted by: garret

--------------
Why is everyone acting like this is a pure mood of the electorate and not heavily controlled by ballot harvesting and tribal politics?

What was turnout? Was this really a rebuke, or was it just a much better ground game by democrats? That is always what they focus on -- for God's sake they had 81M votes for a retard pedo crook! are you telling me that was real too?

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 04, 2026 02:38 PM (8nUmk)

134 5h
I moved from New York to Texas, and somehow woke up today in a blue state.

===

I think this where I disagree with a lot of the angst, I dont believe these red states are now blue. Kansas and South Carolina are not blue states forever and ever. Tx either.

This was very much directed at Trump and sending a message.

You can see various state ballot props where the right leaning ones actually fared well.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:38 PM (E5QyP)

135 I've long said there is no constituency for cutting spending.
None.
Everyone says they are for cutting spending.
But not on the programs they benefit from.
And not the ones people they know benefit from.
Other ones.
Over there somewhere.
"Hands off my Social Security"

Even the low-hanging fruit, the lowest of fruit that even Dems say they want to cut, fraud, waste and abuse, ran into a buzzsaw of massive opposition.

But I'll bet on the Sun not rising tomorrow before I predict Rs won't run on "cutting spending" for 2028.
hur-dee-dur, and tax cuts.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 04, 2026 02:38 PM (RqSb8)

136 I think closing the borders is/was very popular, it's the deporting people already here that was the problem for many.

When I go read hard left forums there are a bunch of complaints about Trump deporting poor innocent people who have done no wrong along with complaints about Trump deporting thousands of citizens.

But when I read softer left/moderate forums I see almost none of that.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:38 PM (sKqQm)

137 "It was being held, in order to create the appearance of scarcity"

Could be. Thanks!

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 02:38 PM (Jr5Lq)

138 104 Explain how we got an Abdul ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 02:34 PM (+gK6I)
Same way you get a bronco ubama, stupid/evil voters.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 02:39 PM (HGVVm)

139 Update: I wonder if, starting six months ago, Trump let up on the deportation raids. And then restarted them after the midterms -- similar to his easing off on Iran with the promise of action after the midterms.

I think maybe we on the harder-to-please "far right" would have been pissed off by this... but who knows. I was fine with Trump pausing the conflict with Iran.

Posted by: ace at November 04, 2026 02:39 PM (1wjle)

140 The US uses none of the oil that comes out of the Strait. Who does, China and Europe. It isn't too much of a stretch to realize that globalist pressure on the oil market is what is driving the price hike. The Iran war also put the brakes on a metric fuck ton of business that Europe was doing with Iran despite the sanctions.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 02:39 PM (8Uo7a)

141 This encapsulates the electorate. Myopic and without reasoning and common sense.
==
Oh just say it.

How do you write women so well?

I imagine a man, then i take away reason and responsibility.

Posted by: as good as it gets at November 04, 2026 02:39 PM (anL5R)

142 We are all on that Lear Jet at 38,000 feet just starting to experience the effects of icing. We all know what comes next

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 04, 2026 02:39 PM (affD0)

143 Almost like the commies colluded with the towel heads.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 02:39 PM (r2Icn)

144 126 Oil price is down to $87 a barrel an 8% decrease today. Interesting
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (8VNAp)

Anticipation of Trump just completely backing out of Iran at this point... thats how bad the ass whoopin was last night.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 02:39 PM (lLeLE)

145 >>>Even the low-hanging fruit, the lowest of fruit that even Dems say they want to cut, fraud, waste and abuse, ran into a buzzsaw of massive opposition.

Yuuuuuuuuuup

and you'd think the low-hanging fruit of deporation -- murderers and pedophiles -- would be easy for Democrats to support but nooooooooooooope

Posted by: ace at November 04, 2026 02:40 PM (1wjle)

146 Policy Voter Reaction

Fiscal responsibility…..Don’t cut my piece
Defense…….Don't stay too long.
Illegal immigration….Don't cut my house cleaner

BTW gas prices magically have gone from over $100 a barrel to mid $80’s today. Purely a coincidence.

But vote those Dems in who tried to kill the oil industry to “fix” it. Lololol

Posted by: Vengeance at November 04, 2026 02:40 PM (f4tQo)

147 144 Almost like the commies colluded with the towel heads.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 02:39 PM (r2Icn)

This ain't no secret Sir, may I get two?

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 02:40 PM (lLeLE)

148 To me its the 24/7 Marxists Propaganda that wins over less information people

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2026 02:40 PM (Ia/+0)

149 I tried to explain to her this doesnt qualify Dr Amy to be governor no matter what was in the ad, but she kind of just stared at me like she hadnt considered that line of thinking.

Yeah there is a lot of this insanity now in pop culture.

She's a victim!

Well, ok if true why does that mean she'd be a good governor?

Didn't you hear me say she's a victim?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:40 PM (sKqQm)

150 I think closing the borders is/was very popular, it's the deporting people already here that was the problem for many.

I...can't....even...
Posted by: garret
-

People were going nuts during it. Thrilled with it. Then they changed leadership horses mid-stream and things died off and it wasn't talked about as much.

I think if they'd started arresting business owners and HR staff and seizing / auctioning corporations the public would've been firmly behind them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 04, 2026 02:40 PM (QbkqR)

151 I went bed early last night. Woke up to check things.
First thing I saw was Acton's speech. On MSNow.
And i thought. 'Damn how drunk is she?'
Asks beer stateless today.

She's a not-hot mess.
But I was happy that ace has easy content.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 02:41 PM (Sco7b)

152 I am really hoping a lot of this is emotional release after a rough day, and then we will all gather up our wits and drive on. Y’all, the world did not end and we know it because the world did not end. We have to give this to God, and in the end, we are going to be okay.
Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 02:23 PM (ZdaMQ)

I agree with you on that.

But I need to remind you that the "we" being okay in the end doesn't include The United States of America.

This world is not our home, but I still love this country and I hate to see her destroyed.

I'm reminded that while God sometimes (very rarely) rains down hellfire as punishment, His most common punishment is "Here's exactly what you want."

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 04, 2026 02:41 PM (N1tpc)

153 143 We are all on that Lear Jet at 38,000 feet just starting to experience the effects of icing. We all know what comes next

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 04, 2026 02:39 PM (affD0)

The pilot flew us into the thunderstorms in the first place...at some point, there is no return. I don't think we're there yet, but the sky is darkening and the thunderclaps and lightning are getting closer...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:41 PM (l3cgK)

154 while Asian voters shifted 25 points left after moving 12 points right.
_______________________

There's your "Birthright Citizenship" coming right back and biting you on the ass. Trump has been sticking it to China in his second term (indirectly and directly). Venezuela Crude, Iranian Refining, Tariffs, trade agreements in the Far Eastern Rim. Relatives back home on the mainland are suffering hugely. I'm sure that plays a role and shows true allegiance more clearly.

Posted by: Orson at November 04, 2026 02:41 PM (dIske)

155 The Iran war also put the brakes on a metric fuck ton of business that Europe was doing with Iran despite the sanctions."

Also, not our problem.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:41 PM (pfXMo)

156 from the VP on X, discussing what a pollster told him:

He asked those voters who had abandoned us what would cause them to come back on our team. The top four answers, accounting for nearly all of the responses were:

1) End the war
2) Focus on cost of living/inflation
3) Put America First
4) Change our relationship to Israel

Our voters showed up. And the above four reasons are why many of them voted for Democrats.

people are really, really tired of endless sandbox wars

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2026 02:41 PM (gw3RI)

157 Update: I wonder if, starting six months ago, Trump let up on the deportation raids. And then restarted them after the midterms -- similar to his easing off on Iran with the promise of action after the midterms.

I think maybe we on the harder-to-please "far right" would have been pissed off by this... but who knows. I was fine with Trump pausing the conflict with Iran.
Posted by: ace

===

I will always salute Trump on the border/immigration because I'm passionate on that issue and he made a huge difference, but I always thought the very public "raids" were sort of dumb and more just boob bait.

Especially going to blue cities and having very public clashes.

Seems way easier, lower hanging fruit.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:41 PM (E5QyP)

158 >>You don't think there are a lot of people that say "Sure, we should not allow more people in, but how can we kick out those already building lives here, especially using gestapo tactics?"

Well, women...sure.

But actual rational beings? No.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 02:42 PM (/izzV)

159 >>This was very much directed at Trump and sending a message.

How exactly is electing a weird freak in Texas that claims his biggest concern is transing kids a rebuke of Trump? Or a jihadist in Michigan?

Do you think either one of them is going to bring down gas prices?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 02:42 PM (viF8m)

160 The bright side of these shifts is that these two groups: 40% of Hispanic men and 40% of Catholics, have been shown to be persuadable. These are not permanent realignments.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 04, 2026 02:42 PM (wGerL)

161 Illegal immigration….Don't cut my house cleaner

You know I did see a fair amount of "anyone know where I can get a new reasonably priced nanny/maid/gardner? That damn Trump deported mine!" on leftwing forums but...this is from hard left people that were always going to vote blue.

I suspect the people switching their votes this time around where not the people that could afford a house cleaner, illegal or not.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:42 PM (sKqQm)

162
I laughed and pointed out that some decades ago a dipshit governor invested Ohio's rainy day funds into stamps and baseball card collectibles. What could go wrong????
Posted by: explains the obvious

Could have been worse. Could have been beanie babies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2026 02:42 PM (Cqx++)

163 There's your "Birthright Citizenship" coming right back and biting you on the ass. Trump has been sticking it to China in his second term (indirectly and directly). Venezuela Crude, Iranian Refining, Tariffs, trade agreements in the Far Eastern Rim. Relatives back home on the mainland are suffering hugely. I'm sure that plays a role and shows true allegiance more clearly.
Posted by: Orson

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The asians I know are conservative but hate Trump , if that makes any sense.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:42 PM (E5QyP)

164 Oil price is down to $87 a barrel an 8% decrease today. Interesting
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 02:36 PM (8VNAp)
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It will drop for quite a while. Just wait until the beef bubble bursts.

With all that extra cash, people will buy new(er) cars and buy homes.

Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 02:42 PM (rj6Yv)

165 USO ETF down about 16% since the 11/2 open.

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 02:42 PM (Jr5Lq)

166 This was very much directed at Trump and sending a message.

Unfortunately, the message was 'our assholes are open for business".

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:43 PM (JM5dG)

167 "In U.S. financial history, there have been exactly 25 instances where crude oil prices dropped by more than 8% in a single trading day." I don't get it.
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if the drop is due to a falling demand -yes.

if the drop is due to the relaxation of artificially high prices due to a supply problem (real or contrived) - no.

Posted by: AI isn't smart its like a talking encyclopedia you have to make sense of it at November 04, 2026 02:43 PM (anL5R)

168 Lawn care prices had been going up pretty fast. Hopefully the democrats will turn that trend around.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 04, 2026 02:43 PM (2ap+5)

169 A non-trivial portion of the electorate vote solely on who they think will give them more money
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:37 PM (sKqQm)

I don't disagree. But those people are pirates, honorable enough to put a cutlass in your belly and be off with your stuff.

The people I'm talking about are the kind of deceivers (self-deceiving as much as lying to others) who vote Trump in because inflation is eating their lunch and the border is wide open but then vote back in the people who did all that 2 years later because Trump hasn't fixed things already, or is going about it about it the wrong way, or is just bad vibes fr fr 100% no cap skibidi.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 04, 2026 02:43 PM (HFrEr)

170 We know things look pretty bleak right now.

Trust us, things are going to get worse.

Posted by: Big Penguin at November 04, 2026 02:43 PM (0sNs1)

171 I’m actually getting to the point of enjoying this. Democrats are splugging all over social media about all the extra constitutional subversion, prosecutions, investigations, impeachments, stacking of courts, winding back of election integrity, restoring fraud and USAID, tax hikes, NFA tax etc..

I mean none of that sounds like an economic plan. But then I am not an economist. But anyway it sure sounds like what they did last time before Trump pulled us out of the hole.

Yeah but those voters. They’re so smart.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 04, 2026 02:43 PM (f4tQo)

172 Make America Great Again.

The Dems don't have an answer to that.

Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 02:44 PM (rj6Yv)

173 I think this where I disagree with a lot of the angst, I dont believe these red states are now blue. Kansas and South Carolina are not blue states forever and ever. Tx either.

This was very much directed at Trump and sending a message.

You can see various state ballot props where the right leaning ones actually fared well.
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Which I'm open to.
3-6 months, let's see: What is the path to them swinging that drastically back to R?

We won't have a perfect, charismatic candidate.
We won't have any "wins" to run on.

Just ... promises from a party that has only done one thing well:
Break promises.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 04, 2026 02:44 PM (RqSb8)

174 163
I laughed and pointed out that some decades ago a dipshit governor invested Ohio's rainy day funds into stamps and baseball card collectibles. What could go wrong????
Posted by: explains the obvious

Could have been worse. Could have been beanie babies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2026 02:42 PM (Cqx++)

NFTs

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:44 PM (l3cgK)

175 You don't think there are a lot of people that say "Sure, we should not allow more people in, but how can we kick out those already building lives here, especially using gestapo tactics?"
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Explain to them that's the liberal, tolerant, loving approach that many of us disagree with.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 04, 2026 02:44 PM (QbkqR)

176 Change our relationship with Israel JD ? What exactly does that mean ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 02:44 PM (+gK6I)

177 Counterpoint by a very smart lady who would never be welcomed here:

https://tinyurl.com/4k8c3jak

Posted by: There ARE other views at November 04, 2026 02:19 PM (8RdGl)

We love and miss AtC here, so I don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by: pookysgirl has been here for a bit at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (Wt5PA)
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I mostly agree with AtC, although I think the problem is more complex than just "the GOP are lazy grifting retards who never bothered to fix any problems or even admit that there were problems."

The GOP is all that and more. But the problem is more complex.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2026 02:44 PM (iFTx/)

178 The idiots that vote for illogical things never think past step one.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 02:44 PM (czPqD)

179 And holy shit. Temu Obama is dumber than a bag of dirt. I can’t wait to have this guy on tv every night with sniveling Chuck Schumer.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 04, 2026 02:44 PM (f4tQo)

180 Violent Crime Futures are UP!

Posted by: Intrade Guy at November 04, 2026 02:45 PM (/izzV)

181 Honestly,
I think a whole lot of people are tired of Trump. Tired of his mouth and his insults and constant bickering with just about everyone. I think this was a referendum on him. And he still isnt listening.

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For sure. And now that he is losing (at least electorally), it will likely wear thin more quickly.

But Trump is always full of surprises. Maybe having Congress as a foil will energize him. He could try to turn complete statesman ... doubtful ... but I think it would be a very interesting turn. Or he may simply just end up a very lame duck and goes down pissing everyone off.

He is still the guy that finally got rid of Roe v Wade. They can't take that away from me ... until the pack the court.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 02:45 PM (qCV5n)

182 How exactly is electing a weird freak in Texas that claims his biggest concern is transing kids a rebuke of Trump? Or a jihadist in Michigan?

Do you think either one of them is going to bring down gas prices?
Posted by: JackStraw

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Because they have a D next to their name?

No, i dont think it's logical, but that was the goal.

We had this happen in 1994 where people hated Clinton, so every person with an R next to their name, did well. Including offices that had zero to do with the Presidency or any of those federal issues.

Mario Cumo getting thrown out NY Gov office by Pataki was absolutely because people hated Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:45 PM (E5QyP)

183 These are The Good Ole Days.

Posted by: toby928(c) reminds you at November 04, 2026 02:45 PM (JM5dG)

184 rom the VP on X, discussing what a pollster told him:

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lol, cucker tarlson is not a pollster (well , maybe with this VP's mind he is, together with that great intellectual - Theo Von) There are real polls, multiple polls telling one story - cost of living - i rates/ insurance costs/gas and corruption (rich getting richer)

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 02:45 PM (AKptf)

185 I’m actually getting to the point of enjoying this. Democrats are splugging all over social media about all the extra constitutional subversion, prosecutions, investigations, impeachments, stacking of courts, winding back of election integrity, restoring fraud and USAID, tax hikes, NFA tax etc..

In most ways this is a bad sign - they don't feel the need to pretend to care about the things that got them elected.

I guess the one potential positive - when the people you just elected to bring down the cost of gas double the gas tax, put in a mileage tax, and ban oil refining/drilling are you going to learn anything Mr LIV voter?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:45 PM (sKqQm)

186 You don't think there are a lot of people that say "Sure, we should not allow more people in, but how can we kick out those already building lives here, especially using gestapo tactics?"

Well, women...sure.

But actual rational beings? No.
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Perfect. No notes.

Posted by: while on vacay a crook broke in my house and made himself comfortable - I can't ask him to leave now at November 04, 2026 02:45 PM (anL5R)

187 >

I think the jury is out on that. They put up huge numbers as a lot of Republicans also sat this one out. It sure doesn’t smell good.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 04, 2026 02:46 PM (f4tQo)

188 172 I’m actually getting to the point of enjoying this. Democrats are splugging all over social media about all the extra constitutional subversion, prosecutions, investigations, impeachments, stacking of courts, winding back of election integrity, restoring fraud and USAID, tax hikes, NFA tax etc..

I mean none of that sounds like an economic plan. But then I am not an economist. But anyway it sure sounds like what they did last time before Trump pulled us out of the hole.

Yeah but those voters. They’re so smart.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 04, 2026 02:43 PM (f4tQo)

As long as Trump vetoes the bills (and they don't have a 2/3rds majority to override the veto despite turncoat Reps), only Congressional inquisitions and impeachments can happen until 2029.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:46 PM (l3cgK)

189
Went shopping for groceries this afternoon. I was surprised to find myself suddenly filled with a deep, unalloyed and undiscriminating contempt for everyone I saw.

I trust yesterday's results will be the end of Texas's reputation for strong, self-reliant people. They voted in aborticomaniacs and sex butchers. They're now a larger version of Massachusetts with a bigger line of bullshit.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2026 02:46 PM (eRlcH)

190 It's coming good and hard!

...and it is deserved.

Posted by: connected and litigious at November 04, 2026 02:46 PM (cS1cw)

191 157 from the VP on X, discussing what a pollster told him:

"He asked those voters who had abandoned us what would cause them to come back on our team. The top four answers, accounting for nearly all of the responses were:

1) End the war
2) Focus on cost of living/inflation
3) Put America First
4) Change our relationship to Israel

Our voters showed up. And the above four reasons are why many of them voted for Democrats."

people are really, really tired of endless sandbox wars

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2026 02:41 PM (gw3RI)

Vance has a lot of reason to want these to be the causes.

If the future of the GOP isn't through Michigan and the white working class but instead trying to win over Hispanics, there's no reason to run him.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 04, 2026 02:46 PM (okun6)

192 man, it is our problem and a very real one. What changed to drop oil almost 25$ a barrel in one day?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 02:47 PM (8Uo7a)

193 My current list to noodle on:
-Economy Fuel prices, food prices
-Popularity/unpopularity of Trump. His job approval rating is in the high 30s / low 40s
-Independents, working class, male, female, and as Ace mentioned – Hispanics and young voters
-Iran
-Turnout
Kind of have the fuckits today. Doubt I’ll get very far.

Posted by: scampydog at November 04, 2026 02:47 PM (2bFN5)

194 >>Change our relationship with Israel JD ? What exactly does that mean ?

He's getting wrecked on X over his post this morning. He seems to have gone full Tucker.

It's a bit odd that Trump is taking all the heat when Congress, mostly the Senate, did absolutely squat for most of the last 2 years. They couldn't even pass the Save Act.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 02:47 PM (viF8m)

195 When A no work GO B, when B no work GO A, when A no work GO B
Posted by: JackStraw

Posted by: American Electorate at November 04, 2026 02:47 PM (lLeLE)

196 People voted for Trump 2.0 because they thought they would be getting Trump 1.0: A booming economy, a sealed border, and a, relatively, peaceful world. They were willing to look past the crudity, the vulgairty, the garishness, the crassness, the pompousity, and all his other faults because he still wore the sheen of competence from his first term.

Instead, what we got was chaos, braindead economic policy, the whiff of corruption, some tasty memes, and an 80 year old Boomer whose schtick is wearing thin. This was a wholesale and undeniable repudiation of Trump.

It didn't matter what flavor of Republican you were in this climate, moderate, conservative, isolationaist, protectionist, neocon, paleocon, post-liberal, everyone took a beating. And that means the buck stops with the guy at the top. Lot of the Horde may not want to hear it, but this carnage would not have happened if we had nominated the guy from Florida who wore boots.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 02:47 PM (QlFnJ)

197 Trump's braggadocio did him in. We all know that the 20+% inflation under Biden is what caused the "affordability" crisis, but Trump promised prices would start falling on Day One. Contrast with Obama, who defended a shitty, stagnant economy by blaming Bush every time he opened his mouth and of course the media let him get away with it. Trump overpromised, and couldn't deliver because it's fundamental that for most things other than commodities, prices only go up. It's just a question of the rate of increase. Promising people they were going to start seeing lower prices immediately was an impossible promise to keep.

He did start bringing down oil prices, and then shot himself in the dick with Iran. But Iran isn't why diesel is $6/gallon. That's that little shit Zelensky's fault, and all the global customers who have kept relying on Russian supplies for the last four years while arming the guy who is blowing up their energy supplies with the side benefit of allowing them to conveniently blame Trump for everything.

And Texas, geez. What happens when you invite corporate liberals from California and Manhattan into your state by the millions? I guess this.

Posted by: the dandy at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (ewGyc)

198 mileage tax, and ban oil refining/drilling are you going to learn anything Mr LIV voter?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:45 PM (sKqQm)

With the media still blaming the "Iran War" for it, probably not

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (i+GzW)

199 But I need to remind you that the "we" being okay in the end doesn't include The United States of America.

This world is not our home, but I still love this country and I hate to see her destroyed.

I'm reminded that while God sometimes (very rarely) rains down hellfire as punishment, His most common punishment is "Here's exactly what you want."
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As I said this morning, Jesus promised us peace if we follow Him.

He did not promise it for nations, the world or generally.

For you. In your life, your family, your home.
And no man can ever touch that or take that from you.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (RqSb8)

200 As long as Trump vetoes the bills (and they don't have a 2/3rds majority to override the veto despite turncoat Reps), only Congressional inquisitions and impeachments can happen until 2029.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

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Yes, but I'm just going to be honest and say I dont trust him to hold the line.

Like today he was asked about the midterms and he wanted to talk about the ballroom he's building.

I think he would sell the country's birthright for some hot stew.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (E5QyP)

201 I'd like to see Sen. Mike Lee and Rep. Brandon Gill take over as minority leaders.

Can't believe that Thune has the crust to even suggest he should be leader, and I would never accept his puppy dogs Barrasso or Cotton either.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (3ImbR)

202 >>In most ways this is a bad sign - they don't feel the need to pretend to care about the things that got them elected.

No it’s what they said before the election and the smartest people in the room, “Independents” said it was all Republican hyperbole and Democrats are 100% the ones to fix all of our issues. Dunces.

Anyone who actually read what they said isn’t surprised.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (f4tQo)

203 I mostly agree with AtC, although I think the problem is more complex than just "the GOP are lazy grifting retards who never bothered to fix any problems or even admit that there were problems."

The GOP is all that and more. But the problem is more complex.
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I'll dumb it down. Uniparty.

Posted by: why voting except for Trump changes nothing at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (anL5R)

204 143 We are all on that Lear Jet at 38,000 feet just starting to experience the effects of icing. We all know what comes next
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 04, 2026 02:39 PM (affD0)

It won't be anywhere near that fast. The Left is going to make this as painful as they can.

Posted by: Polka will never die at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (zuZpx)

205 What changed to drop oil almost 25$ a barrel in one day?
Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 02:47 PM (8Uo7a)

War with Iran is over, I guess people forget that oil is Priced on FUTURE TRADING

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (lLeLE)

206 Following politics will only ever make you miserable.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (zli9j)

207 Female voters, particularly the young, voted against Trump. According to Grok, exit polling says (by age group):

18-29 voted 71% Democrat
30-44 voted 59% Democrat
45- 64 voted equally for both parties
65 plus voted 51% GOP

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (0uoWg)

208 >>I think closing the borders is/was very popular, it's the deporting people already here that was the problem for many. Especially since the latter was effectively demagogued as evil/fascist/racist/etc.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at November 04, 2026 02:27 PM (9ZFZd)

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They picture the sweet waitress who works at the Ranchero Loco or the guy with the truck and trailer who mows their lawn, not the legions of child molesters and traffickers and murderers among the 10 million who traipsed in here unhindered.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2026 02:49 PM (NYInA)

209 Feeling like a champ today looking toward 2028? Ron DeSantis. He gets to run with no stink of the Trump administration on him and an actual record of competent conservative governance.

Posted by: the dandy at November 04, 2026 02:49 PM (ewGyc)

210 Through Michigan and the white working class ... Who just elected an American hating muslim ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 02:49 PM (+gK6I)

211 He's getting wrecked on X over his post this morning.

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We must bet getting different feeds.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 02:49 PM (qCV5n)

212 The top four answers, accounting for nearly all of the responses were:

1) End the war
2) Focus on cost of living/inflation
3) Put America First"

Those 3 would account for...90%?

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:49 PM (pfXMo)

213 Lot of the Horde may not want to hear it, but this carnage would not have happened if we had nominated the guy from Florida who wore boots.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 02:47 PM (QlFnJ)
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I guess you're tired of winning.

Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 02:49 PM (rj6Yv)

214
Yup. They're on the march, habibi.

Dr. Maalouf ‏
@realMaalouf
·
7h
In addition to Ilhan Omar’s reelection to Congress, NINE more Somalis were elected to the State Senate and State House across Minnesota, Ohio, and Oregon.

I am speechless.

Posted by: beckster at November 04, 2026 02:49 PM (kX27y)

215 DeSantis already had 2 press conferences since last night....

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (AKptf)

216 Lot of the Horde may not want to hear it, but this carnage would not have happened if we had nominated the guy from Florida who wore boots.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 02:47 PM

If you can't convince your own party to nominate you, your chance of winning the general election is slim.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (JM5dG)

217 I think he would sell the country's birthright for some hot stew.
Posted by: Leupold
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This has always been your position, even before he was elected President.

Posted by: C'mon its not like we don't recall at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (anL5R)

218 "Lame Duck" Trump might be fun to watch. At this point he has nothing to lose. I suspect the conventional wisdom historically is for a bit of a status quo. That doesn't seem to be his preference at any time that I can remember.

Were I on his "shit list" I'd be a bit concerned over these next two years.

Posted by: Orson at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (dIske)

219 Following politics will only ever make you miserable.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

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I do agree with that. I wish I didnt care so much.

We're never going to really get what we want, we live in a fallen world.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (E5QyP)

220 Hadrian, that was my feeling as well. I didn't want to see anybody today. A friend called and asked what I was doing today. I said baking a cake because I would be tempted to break something.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (8Uo7a)

221 John Thune should go back to being a fluffer in gay p***n movies. That guy is as useless as tits on Talarico.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (f4tQo)

222 “Over the last two years, Senate Republicans have put up a strong record of accomplishment that’s created safer streets, more money in Americans’ pockets, and new opportunities for families and businesses to get ahead.

After fighting Democrat obstruction at every turn, we prevented the largest tax hike in American history, secured our border in an unprecedented way, confirmed the president’s Cabinet at the fastest pace in two decades, and put strong conservative judges on benches across the country faster than we have since the Reagan administration.

I’m proud of our team and everything we’ve done for the American people, and I’m looking forward to the important work we have in front of us over the next few months.

As we head into 2027, Senate Republicans will not stand idly by as the far-left, socialist wing of the Democrat Party attempts to unwind everything we’ve done.

Thankfully, we still have President Trump in the White House, and we’ll work with him to stop the worst impulses of Democrat extremism. We cannot let their fringe positions become the mainstream.”

-- John Thune (R-INO)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (0sNs1)

223 18 In this time of dismay, I recall the advice of Rush Limbaugh...the best revenge against the left is to live well.
As I gaze out into my sunset years, that is exactly what I plan to do. Shoot my guns, smoke my cigars, drink good whiskey, eat good food, and love my family and my God.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2026 02:22 PM (2WIwB)

I said it when Barky was re-elected: Live your life like a free American every day. God gave us this gift. Don't waste it because shitweazel in DC says differently.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (g8Ew8)

224
We love and miss AtC here, so I don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by: pookysgirl has been here for a bit at November 04, 2026 02:29 PM (Wt5PA)

'zactly. I'd love to have Alex come back home.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (y9nCu)

225 It won't be anywhere near that fast. The Left is going to make this as painful as they can.
Posted by: Polka will never die at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (zuZpx)

Well the pain for us is because they are SCOAMFS and economically illiterate.

The pain for the current Administration and their friends is because they are resentful, arrogant, spiteful, petty, juvenile, entitled, smug Pieces of Shit that believe that by going after him they will teach the masses that they are the Master.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (lLeLE)

226 I suspect Trump's issue now is how does he keep the Dems from putting his kids in prison.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (sKqQm)

227 DeSantis already had 2 press conferences since last night....
Posted by: runner

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Im open to it.

FL was like the only bright spot last night.

What he lacks in charisma he seems to make up for in competence.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (E5QyP)

228 Seems lots of Congress and Senators were not into MAGA so that was a campaign slogan saying MAGA wasn't a good idea

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (Ia/+0)

229 Sometimes things have to get worse before they get better. Faith gets stronger.

This is God's plan, not mine. Yet I still believe in Him and know where I'm going.

Sons are conservative fighters. Key word there, fighters.

The political pendulum always swings wildly, always has, always will. The Founding Father's knew this.

Granted, they didn't know about tik tok witches and trans, but they knew evil and stupid people.

Pray. Fight. Never give up. Never let them see you upset, if you have these ninnyhammer twits in your own life, fight.

Don't be weaklings in the face of war...and it is war against demonic thinking of those who won.

I'll bet some stayed home to not vote because Trump hurt their feelings by bombing Iran. THEY are partially to blame and I hope they are happy today along with demonic Dims and the evil they spew with their unholy socialism as they kill babies and mutilate children.

There! Right up there is the only anger I have and you'd never notice it if you met me right now.

Not a tiny atom of fear (unless I see a snake). FIGHT

Yeah, we've fought, but who on earth thought it would end in 2024?

Like flatulent turds, demons rise to the surface if flushed.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (hzuYO)

230 "War with Iran is over, I guess people forget that oil is Priced on FUTURE TRADING "

I did not know Iran War is over, but I'm always last to find out stuff.

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (Jr5Lq)

231 Lot of the Horde may not want to hear it, but this carnage would not have happened if we had nominated the guy from Florida who wore boots.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston
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This is hilarious.

Well played sarcasm.

Posted by: boots made for walking not running at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (anL5R)

232 Magian? We’re being invaded by the Magi, the wise men of the east who, perceiving his star, came to worship the baby Jesus?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (TlKpx)

233
As long as Trump vetoes the bills (and they don't have a 2/3rds majority to override the veto despite turncoat Reps), only Congressional inquisitions and impeachments can happen until 2029.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:46 PM (l3cgK)

I'm sorry but I suspect they will stab us in the back as they've always done.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (czPqD)

234 I'm sorry Vance is the last person who should be the Republican standard bearer, except maybe Don Jr. It will be another change election. You need a candidate that can run away from Trump.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 04, 2026 02:52 PM (wGerL)

235 @183 to be fair Mario Cuomo also got beat because everyone was sick of the sanctimonious prick

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 02:52 PM (8VNAp)

236 >>We must bet getting different feeds.

Maybe. What do you think Vance means by changing our relationship with Israel?

It was Vance who helped negotiate the MOU with Iran that they violated 15 minutes after it was signed.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 02:52 PM (viF8m)

237 227 I suspect Trump's issue now is how does he keep the Dems from putting his kids in prison.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (sKqQm)

From the same people who wouldn't touch Hunter for all the corruption he was involved in.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:52 PM (l3cgK)

238 >>>Change our relationship with Israel JD ? What exactly does that mean ?

younger conservatives are not as reflexively pro-Israel as older conservatives. dismissing it all as "groyper tucker carlson" is a questionable tactic long term

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2026 02:52 PM (gw3RI)

239 glurp

Posted by: Paul, who enjoys the sexual affections of dogs at November 04, 2026 02:52 PM (DWxOI)

240 "War with Iran is over, I guess people forget that oil is Priced on FUTURE TRADING "

I did not know Iran War is over, but I'm always last to find out stuff.
Posted by: gp

==
If anything, Id be terrified if I was Iran right now.
I see Trump making one last (big) mission where he levels the place and then leaving.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (E5QyP)

241 Meh, we will have gridlock. Trump can veto and Dems can eat shit. My guess is Iran can’t win over the next two years and will have to make a deal. Oil is and will flow. Trump can guard the boarder while Dems wank off. They will accomplish nothing which is what they do.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (Wp1X1)

242 I also don't believe garret is gay. Forgot to add that above.

Who are these new people on this blog popping up? If I don't recognize a nic I don't read them.

Maybe some are normal and will fight and I should give them a chance on another day.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (hzuYO)

243 The trend of bbl was already going down and there isn’t a single indicator at the moment we are t going to smoke Iran. But you go girl.

It’s actually the market catching up with the underlying fundamentals. Idiot.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (f4tQo)

244 128 2 things - It's kinda funny everybody was talking about each of these races and what they meant when all along it wasn't local at all, it was national.

And it is irony that Trump lowered prices early that everybody forgot biden's raising them and he got crushed because of the war and they went up.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 04, 2026 02:37 PM (n5tGW)

I said in May that Trump needed to end the war before the world cup and spend the rest of the year focused on getting gas and food prices down. And that he needed positive news stories every day.

We didn't get that...any of that. And here we are.

Damn, between writing the 3 sentences Trump should say today and knowing this fact, I should get 7 figures to advise R's, but this is so not rocket science...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (Gb7+b)

245 227 I suspect Trump's issue now is how does he keep the Dems from putting his kids in prison.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM

This. And Musk and anyone they can as a warning to the rest of us.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (czPqD)

246 It's not demographics. Demographics didn't change in two years.

IT'S THE IRAN WAR YOU STUPID ASSHOLE
THAT'S THE WHOLE THING

Posted by: It's the Iran War, retard at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (fE/NB)

247 I said it when Barky was re-elected: Live your life like a free American every day. God gave us this gift. Don't waste it because shitweazel in DC says differently.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (g8Ew

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Concur.

Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (rj6Yv)

248 If you are NOT for "Drill baby, drill!", then you support HIGHER oil prices.

Not one Democrat supports Drill baby, drill, yet the people voted en masse for that party because they are going to lower oil prices (allegedly).

Propaganda works! And propaganda on low information, low IQ people works even better!

I don't know how we can beat lies with facts, when voters love to cling to those sweet, sweet lies?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (HlyYF)

249 Boots with lifts which are the gay version of boots

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (enNUy)

250 I did not know Iran War is over, but I'm always last to find out stuff.
Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (Jr5Lq)

Basically the election last night said its over, and Trump and Vance admitting the war cost them the mid terms said its over... basically its all but officially over. Sorry if I confused you.

Oh also, the Markets say its over... for now.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 02:54 PM (lLeLE)

251 @186

>>In most ways this is a bad sign - they don't feel the need to pretend to care about the things that got them elected.

Unlike the GOP, the Donks are a real political party, they can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

They'll have one crew doing the evil sh*t and another crew doing the stupid sh*t.

And you'll have the GOP in a fetal position with their dumbs up their ass shouting... comity.... comity... comity.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2026 02:54 PM (XV/Pl)

252 NINE more Somalis were elected"

Import that many Mongolians ... same would happen.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:54 PM (pfXMo)

253 234
As long as Trump vetoes the bills (and they don't have a 2/3rds majority to override the veto despite turncoat Reps), only Congressional inquisitions and impeachments can happen until 2029.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:46 PM (l3cgK)

I'm sorry but I suspect they will stab us in the back as they've always done.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (czPqD)

Which is why I put the proviso, "As long as Trump vetoes the bills (and they don't have a 2/3rds majority to override the veto despite turncoat Reps)"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:54 PM (l3cgK)

254 Maybe. What do you think Vance means by changing our relationship with Israel?

It was Vance who helped negotiate the MOU with Iran that they violated 15 minutes after it was signed.

---------------

I don't really know. What do you make of his entire statement?

Did he get Trump's blessing on any of it?

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 02:54 PM (qCV5n)

255 Why is everyone acting like this is a pure mood of the electorate and not heavily controlled by ballot harvesting and tribal politics?

What was turnout? Was this really a rebuke, or was it just a much better ground game by democrats? That is always what they focus on -- for God's sake they had 81M votes for a retard pedo crook! are you telling me that was real too?
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 04, 2026 02:38 PM (8nUmk)

Is Harmeet filing any cases today? Is anyone contesting their elections? Did Trump go out to deep red areas and campaign for the whole month before the election?

Yeah, I'd say everyone knew this was coming - they just didn't know how bad.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM (Gb7+b)

256 Who are the Somalis' natural enemies? We should import more of them.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM (JM5dG)

257 I expect the Dems will go after the 2A right out of the gate.

Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM (rj6Yv)

258 If you can't convince your own party to nominate you, your chance of winning the general election is slim.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (JM5dG)

That is completely untrue. The primary and the general are two completely different electorates.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM (QlFnJ)

259 I said in May that Trump needed to end the war before the world cup and spend the rest of the year focused on getting gas and food prices down. And that he needed positive news stories every day.

I was saying the same things, though I argued he had until Labor day as people don't pay attention to politics before then.

I get his strategy - no boots on the ground, low intensity cut off of trade for Iran so their economy collapses.

But the IRGC was willing to trade their people's poverty in return for keeping the war going.

Trump should have been prepared to level Iran's infrastructure in those first few weeks and he wasn't.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM (sKqQm)

260 Trump, as soon as Elissa Slutnick (D-CIA) made her threat, should have issued preemptive symbolic pardons to every Republican in America, freeing them from punishment for the crime of voting Republican.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 02:56 PM (0uoWg)

261 I hope Iran is scared out of their little mullah brains.

Well, those who haven't converted to Christianity. Them I pray for.

End this, President Trump and Sec Hegseth. This week.

ALL WILL BE WELL

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 04, 2026 02:56 PM (hzuYO)

262 258 I expect the Dems will go after the 2A right out of the gate.

Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM (rj6Yv)

They do hate it. You can't fully control a people who are armed.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:56 PM (l3cgK)

263 212 He's getting wrecked on X over his post this morning.

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We must bet getting different feeds.
Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 02:49 PM (qCV5n)

My feed has him getting destroyed, too.

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 02:56 PM (ZdaMQ)

264
Which is why I put the proviso, "As long as Trump vetoes the bills (and they don't have a 2/3rds majority to override the veto despite turncoat Reps)"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:54 PM

I guess my reading comprehension is off. Sorry about my mistake. My bad.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 02:56 PM (czPqD)

265 i find all the attempts to read so deeply and minutely into the psephological tea leaves somewhat silly.

times are bad, objectively. trump being reelected did not, as the electorate seemed to signal its expectation with the "vibe shift", fix any of the extremely profound problems plaguing or society (problems for which there are surely no two-year fixes).

the party in power is punished when times are bad. people don't want trans supremacy to return, they voted overwhelmingly for more secure elections, and they don't seem to express a positive view of socialism. they don't want to purchase what the democrats are selling, they just know someone is to blame for times remaining bad, and it must be the folks currently in charge.

i don't think it's any deeper than that.

Posted by: pH at November 04, 2026 02:56 PM (EDAG5)

266 If you can't convince your own party to nominate you, your chance of winning the general election is slim.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (JM5dG)

That is completely untrue. The primary and the general are two completely different electorates.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM

Well, in theory, you could run as an independent or a write-in. In theory.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:56 PM (JM5dG)

267 Dems already said they are going with about a $5000 NFA tax restored, national Red Flag law, possible semi auto ban (depending on Viramonetes) and other ways to steal the 2A rights you just gained back.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 04, 2026 02:57 PM (f4tQo)

268 I think it was after 2012 and the reelection of the SCOAMF, I bought that book "Enjoy the Decline."

Sounds great, just basically cash out, go on every welfare possible, and ride this old nag into the ground.

but, I just didn't have it in me.
Still don't.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 04, 2026 02:57 PM (RqSb8)

269 265
Which is why I put the proviso, "As long as Trump vetoes the bills (and they don't have a 2/3rds majority to override the veto despite turncoat Reps)"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:54 PM

I guess my reading comprehension is off. Sorry about my mistake. My bad.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 02:56 PM (czPqD)

Naw, it's not that. We all miss things.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 02:57 PM (l3cgK)

270 It is an interesting thought experiment. If Trump had just ended his Iran engagement to those Stealth strikes, how would we have fared.

I suspect at least 4 Senate seats would have stayed Republican.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:57 PM (E5QyP)

271 I said in May that Trump needed to end the war before the world cup

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If I'm being honest, I think his term really changed when the US got blown out of the WC, especially after he got involved to have that forward's suspension reversed. The good vibes really kind of ended there.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 02:57 PM (qCV5n)

272 Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 02:47 PM (QlFnJ)

That's one big spew of condensed owl shit.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 02:57 PM (g8Ew8)

273 mrp... The dems are going after Hegseth first

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 02:57 PM (+gK6I)

274 I don't have X, never had twitter, instagram or fakebook.

I quit watching FOX in 2012.

I have a life of peace.

I learned or leared in 2012 with Benghazi, then stupid Romney losing the debate to Obungo, that the constant noise of talking heads was messing with my peace and ended it then.

Shut it down.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 04, 2026 02:58 PM (hzuYO)

275 If you can't convince your own party to nominate you, your chance of winning the general election is slim.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (JM5dG)

That is completely untrue. The primary and the general are two completely different electorates.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM

Well, in theory, you could run as an independent or a write-in. In theory.
==
Remind us Lamont, who was the last independent to win a national election?

Posted by: boots made for walking not running at November 04, 2026 02:58 PM (anL5R)

276 AI sez "Psephology is the scientific and statistical study of elections, voting behavior, and electoral trends"

IDNKT!

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 02:58 PM (Jr5Lq)

277 Like today he was asked about the midterms and he wanted to talk about the ballroom he's building.

I think he would sell the country's birthright for some hot stew.
Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:48 PM (E5QyP)

I'm not really talking about my real opinion on this election either.... yet...

People need time to dig into the numbers... before accusations are made.

Remember, one major component of a Color Revolution, is to destroy everyone's faith in Free and Fair elections...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2026 02:59 PM (mP0Kj)

278
6 Counterpoint by a very smart lady who would never be welcomed here:

https://tinyurl.com/4k8c3jak
Posted by: There ARE other views at November 04, 2026 02:19 PM

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She was welcome here. She removed herself over a disagreement.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 04, 2026 02:59 PM (ienUH)

279
-- John Thune (R-INO)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04

I swear to the heavens of you make me eat another Oreo….

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 02:59 PM (ZdaMQ)

280 Trump needed to end the war before the world cup "

That's the really frustrating thing. '25 was going very well. The "anti ice" crowd was going nowhere, fast. Prices were moderating (mostly due to lower transport costs).

Then "hey, let's go to war! "

WTF? Seriously. Stepping on a rake is smarter.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 02:59 PM (pfXMo)

281 nah. Fraud & mail in votes.
Anything else is just pretending.

Posted by: Esperman at November 04, 2026 03:00 PM (rYCo6)

282 >> I said in May that Trump needed to end the war before the world cup and spend the rest of the year focused on getting gas and food prices down. And that he needed positive news stories every day.

This was solid advice that several people offered. Instead we got months of people talking about how bad the other guy was instead of saying what the dis and what they were going to do on these two issue. Some exit polls also talked about corruption. But I think whoever said that was smoking weed.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 04, 2026 03:00 PM (f4tQo)

283 I'm not convinced it wasn't an op. Another election steal. It's way too neat and tidy an explanation.

Plus we were warned about an attempted color revolution with recriminations regardless how it played out.

But I'll settle for voter stupidity and/lor apathy.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 04, 2026 02:20 PM (RORbl)

The problem is either we have
1) an electorate that is too stupid/enamored of evil (killing babies and transing the survivors, Jew hate, and so on) to convince them to take basic minimal steps to salvage the country, or
2) The intelligence community has gotten so good at election fraud that they can move the needle *20%* at will, thusfar without detection.

In either case their is little hope that any fix involves elections.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 04, 2026 03:00 PM (vSvIl)

284 Oldest son lives in Kansas. He tells me that he got tons of ads from Hamilton about his plan to reduce costs. All he got from Marshal was Hamilton is woke mailers.

We can argue til we're blue in the face that democrat policies are responsible for inflation and high gas prices, but they at least addressed it. Republicans didn't.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 04, 2026 03:00 PM (2UnvF)

285 AtC walked away from us.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 03:00 PM (Gqar8)

286 259 If you can't convince your own party to nominate you, your chance of winning the general election is slim.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (JM5dG)

That is completely untrue. The primary and the general are two completely different electorates.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM (QlFnJ)
=================
Oh, come on. Obviously no one can even get to the general if not nominated, so the difference in the electorate is completely beside the point.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 03:00 PM (0uoWg)

287 Taking out Iran's aytollah and the nukes were not the problem, trying to MOU out of it was. Letting Qatar and Phakisgtan string you along was.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:01 PM (AKptf)

288 Trump on TV this morning talking about his ballroom.

Lol. Cope however you want but the man is a fucking idiot

Posted by: The best ballroom at November 04, 2026 03:01 PM (Mw8PC)

289 232 Lot of the Horde may not want to hear it, but this carnage would not have happened if we had nominated the guy from Florida who wore boots.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston
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This is hilarious.

Well played sarcasm.
Posted by: boots made for walking not running at November 04, 2026 02:51 PM (anL5R)

Totally being sarcastic. I mean, why have competence when we can own the libs with some sick tweets.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 03:01 PM (QlFnJ)

290 I'm just going to say it, I thought people like TJM were really nasty to regulars that were saying this coming election looks bad.

I know a real troll from someone that's actually expressing concern. I dont know why this site has to always take that posture of "owning" anyone that thinks all the data pointing to something might be right?

Posted by: some guy at November 04, 2026 03:02 PM (LpEN7)

291 A flaw in this type of analysis is that it suggests the same Universe of voters participated in both elections. I've seen other data that says 6% of Trump-24 voters backed the dem yesterday, while 3% of Kamala voters supported the Republican. Not enough of a gap to explain blowout. But theory is that the Dems got thier base to turnout like it was a general election.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 04, 2026 03:02 PM (CY0Pe)

292 I don't have X, never had twitter, instagram or fakebook.

I quit watching FOX in 2012"

This.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 03:02 PM (pfXMo)

293 274 mrp... The dems are going after Hegseth first

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 02:57 PM

Yep, what does Hegseth know about creating lethal fighting men?

The Democrats were giving estrogen to males in the military.

Hegseth wanted to supplement testosterone for males with lower T.

What a retard! (If you are a paste-eating Leftist that thinks there are more than two genders.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 04, 2026 03:02 PM (HlyYF)

294 How many times have heard "at the request of Saudi, or Qatar, or Pakistan?.."

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:02 PM (AKptf)

295 I am not clever in making political predictions. Only thing I'm putting a marker on is increased attacks against synagogues, and Jews in general.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 04, 2026 03:03 PM (amcLV)

296 >>I don't really know. What do you make of his entire statement?

>>Did he get Trump's blessing on any of it?

No idea but from the tone I doubt it. He basically put the loss yesterday on Trump and "war" and oil prices.

How often does what's happening in Iran come up in daily conversation? Not that often for me.

Yes, people talk about inflation but it's down significantly from under Biden. Prices on most things are and Democrats have historically done nothing but raise prices.

And none of that explains why people elected radicals like Talarico and Abdul. Peggy Flanagan was up to her ass in the rampant are very visible fraud in Minnesota. She got elected. So did Omar and she didn't even campaign. Hell, Talarico took 2 weeks off in the closing of the campaign and he won.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 03:03 PM (viF8m)

297 I wonder what issues led female voters to swing the election to the Democrats.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 03:03 PM (0uoWg)

298 "Then "hey, let's go to war! ""

Particularly when he told us only 8 months prior that the 'nuclear facilities were obliterated.'

It's still up at whitehouse.gov if you want to see it, along with 30 endorsements by "obliteration experts."

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 03:04 PM (Jr5Lq)

299 248 I said it when Barky was re-elected: Live your life like a free American every day. God gave us this gift. Don't waste it because shitweazel in DC says differently.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (g8Ew
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Concur.
Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 02:53 PM (rj6Yv)

*******
Me as well in 2012. My life changed with Benghazi lies, and the loser Romney with that debate. The last time I yelled at the tv, wasting my breath over politics. Never again will I feel that loss of something I cannot control.

I'm better for it. I vote. I am sarcastic here and there at the idiots and demons, and laugh a whole lot daily.

This is how I fight.

I am undefeated because I have God.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 04, 2026 03:04 PM (hzuYO)

300 I remember atc walking away because we shit talked gays. I don't know who needs to hear this but I do believe we do shit talk, have shit talked and probably will continue shit talking literally every single group. News flash. We talk shit. 24/7.

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 03:04 PM (enNUy)

301 > Taking on Iran because we are the "tough party" killed us.
Posted by: John Milton's Ghost at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (XwZ2

Well, that's a viewpoint.

However, I'm pretty sure that having a crater full of radioactive glass where one of our cities used to be would also have had a "negative impact on the midterms".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 03:04 PM (qlLNh)

302 296 I am not clever in making political predictions. Only thing I'm putting a marker on is increased attacks against synagogues, and Jews in general.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 04, 2026 03:03 PM (amcLV)

They've been given the go ahead

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 03:04 PM (4WM7K)

303 A flaw in this type of analysis is that it suggests the same Universe of voters participated in both elections. I've seen other data that says 6% of Trump-24 voters backed the dem yesterday, while 3% of Kamala voters supported the Republican. Not enough of a gap to explain blowout. But theory is that the Dems got thier base to turnout like it was a general election.

==

that tracks with what I've been seeing, even in FL the Ds had the highest turnout in history , per DeSAntis

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:04 PM (AKptf)

304 AtC walked away from us.
==
She drops in occasionally. Lurks a little. She probably gets revenue from her twitter/X droppings. So that's where she puts her activity now. It was definitely not a banning here.

Posted by: we'll always have victory tits, until my hard drive conks out at November 04, 2026 03:05 PM (anL5R)

305 Hey, Paul. Fuck off!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 03:05 PM (g8Ew8)

306 I am now represented at the state level by a pooja... that's her name.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2026 03:05 PM (9AdGW)

307 298 I wonder what issues led female voters to swing the election to the Democrats.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 03:03 PM (0uoWg

Empathy for migrants and muslims

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 03:05 PM (kJmLc)

308 Did he get Trump's blessing on any of it?
Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 02:54 PM (qCV5n)
~~~~~

After Vance's post, Trump said it's probably true about the war costing us.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 04, 2026 03:05 PM (3ImbR)

309 286 AtC walked away from us.
Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 03:00 PM (Gqar

I miss her.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 03:05 PM (czPqD)

310 ChristyBlinkey and Piper... Quit trying to make me feel better... I want to wallow in my sorrow...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (4WM7K)

311 Totally being sarcastic. I mean, why have competence when we can own the libs with some sick tweets.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 03:01 PM

I like Ron but, he got 9 delegates to the 2024 Republican National Convention, all from the Iowa caucus where he came in second. And dropped out immediately to endorse Trump. We didn't have much to do with it. The dogs just refused the dogfood. You can argue about why I guess but they did.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (JM5dG)

312 >>>is increased attacks against synagogues, and Jews in general

they voted 67% for dems, even in Michigan with the jihad-adjacent asshole on the ballot. i don't get it

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (gw3RI)

313 "However, I'm pretty sure that having a crater full of radioactive glass where one of our cities used to be would also have had a "negative impact on the midterms"."

Iran still has the uranium.

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (Jr5Lq)

314 why people elected radicals like Talarico"

IMHO, the people didn't vote for the complete f'ing idiot running against him.
The Texas GOP appears to be in serious disarray...

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (pfXMo)

315 Go ahead and trans my kid, murder babies up to the day of birth, appoint judges that release murderers and rapists over and over, just give me cheap gas!
-Braindead Voter

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (Bavix)

316 But theory is that the Dems got thier base to turnout like it was a general election.
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Or they just made the votes appear . . .

Posted by: another theory at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (anL5R)

317 301 I remember atc walking away because we shit talked gays. I don't know who needs to hear this but I do believe we do shit talk, have shit talked and probably will continue shit talking literally every single group. News flash. We talk shit. 24/7.
Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 03:04 PM

It's banter and the not all is implied.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (czPqD)

318
After Vance's post, Trump said it's probably true about the war costing us.
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 04, 2026 03:05 PM (3ImbR)

An admission is good

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 03:07 PM (4WM7K)

319 Taking on Iran because we are the "tough party" killed us.
Posted by: John Milton's Ghost at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM

It was the Broken Promise more than the pussy footing around the issue that was the problem, but I think that nuanced detail is flying over everyones hang over today.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 03:07 PM (lLeLE)

320 >>> I wonder what issues led female voters to swing the election to the Democrats.

under 45 number one issue is pro abortion and it's not even close

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2026 03:07 PM (gw3RI)

321 After Vance's post, Trump said it's probably true about the war costing us.

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not in that manner, he said that it impacted gas prices, and that he would do it again and that Iran cannot have nukes

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:07 PM (AKptf)

322 And none of that explains why people elected radicals like Talarico and Abdul. Peggy Flanagan was up to her ass in the rampant are very visible fraud in Minnesota. She got elected. So did Omar and she didn't even campaign. Hell, Talarico took 2 weeks off in the closing of the campaign and he won.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 03:03 PM (viF8m)

Well Joe got 81,000,000 votes, so why not

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 03:07 PM (kJmLc)

323 >> I still think most of this is immigration enforcement politically popular. But Iran was not.
Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 02:28 PM

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I live in the battleground district that went to Manny Rutinel. We must have received a dozen fliers from each campaign, and tons of video ads.
There was NOTHING pro-immigration in the democrats messaging. The closest it got was an edited video of Renee Good, and how Trump is mean. Their messaging was mostly (in this order) "Gas prices", "Gabe Evens votes lockstep with Trump", "Iran War bad", and "MAGA bad".

Democrats know they cannot win on pro-immigration. They won on the Iran War.
Trump should cancel the war, and get back to deportations.

Silver lining: CO outlawed men in women's sports, trans surgeries for minors, etc. All while electing a bunch of democrats.

Posted by: T at November 04, 2026 03:07 PM (SSv1U)

324
Posted by: we'll always have victory tits, until my hard drive conks out at November 04, 2026 03:05 PM (anL5R)

Maybe we can get Thune to show us his Defeat Moobs!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 04, 2026 03:07 PM (YSUhf)

325 that tracks with what I've been seeing, even in FL the Ds had the highest turnout in history , per DeSAntis
Posted by: runner

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I know we think Trump constantly trolling is a win, but I think it makes sure every single Democrat showed up a the polls.

But I dont think this trolling drives up conservative turnout.

I feel like Trump sometimes relishes being the heel and it's not really smart politics.

I wish everyday he woke up and said how could we win over a new voter or coalition.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 03:07 PM (wMYR8)

326 287 259 If you can't convince your own party to nominate you, your chance of winning the general election is slim.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (JM5dG)

That is completely untrue. The primary and the general are two completely different electorates.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM (QlFnJ)
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Oh, come on. Obviously no one can even get to the general if not nominated, so the difference in the electorate is completely beside the point.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 03:00 PM (0uoWg)

People's minds also change with more evidence...Romney lost in 2008 before getting the 2012 nom...

DeSantis has gone up...few Rs have since 2024...

I like Sanders, who I think has also gone up.
Youngkin has just maintained, but you can't ignore him and his money and his SE coast cred and totally different vibe.

Most other Rs have gone down.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 03:07 PM (Gb7+b)

327 > I learned or leared in 2012 with Benghazi, then stupid Romney losing the debate to Obungo...

To my eternal shame, I voted for Fuckstain McCain.

By the time Mr. Hair Gel came along I'd had enough.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 03:07 PM (qlLNh)

328 Calm down. It will be Grid Lock. Been there - Done That. Dems are now required to deliver something. What is it they can deliver?

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 04, 2026 03:08 PM (Wp1X1)

329 crater full of radioactive glass where one of our cities used to be"

Yeah. Sure.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 03:08 PM (pfXMo)

330 Regardless of what I said above, I do think there is great dissatisfaction with Trump that made a lot of people stay home.

1. The young are disaffected, especially with H1bs, bad career prospects, high cost of housing, and a class stratification where the older generations have their stuff, but the young feel they will never get their.

2. The Iran war and Israel. These two overlap. There is a lot of antisemitism and a lot of people who think the Iran war is driven by Israeli interests not America First.

3. High cost of living. Gas prices are a stand-in here, and they are not bad but generally people see that groceries cost 2x what they did before Covid and they want that fixed. It is unfixable, but it is a daily reminder of how fucked "capitalism" has become.

4. Big tech supremacy. This is mostly encapsulated in AI and data centers. Yeaaa, we get to lose our jobs, and our peaceful communities, but a bunch of creeps on the West Coast will get rich, so there's that.

5. I don't believe immigration is a big factor. It is emotional for a lot of people (those who lose cheap labor, and those who want the freeloaders out) but that cancels out. I think

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 04, 2026 03:08 PM (8nUmk)

331 Far, far too many people are retarded emotional sheep. I hear it all the time..lose their minds over a dime increase in gas but can't wait to fork out $15 for a coffee. Somebody on TV gives them a story about "immigrants" or "homeless" who are either cute young women or sad looking veterans and suddenly they believe that is who makes up the majority of those groups. They know nothing about anything important but can tell you who plays right tackle for Nebraska. Around here the big political ad was an actual sound bite of the candidate saying "a 23% tax" as part of a consumption tax proposal, of course with no other taxes, which they left out so the dummies would think the candidate wished to just add that tax. I really dont have much optimism left unless somehow our very own Gen. Franco miraculously appears

Posted by: Azjaeger at November 04, 2026 03:08 PM (3/XaG)

332 No idea but from the tone I doubt it. He basically put the loss yesterday on Trump and "war" and oil prices.

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Definitely not the type of statement a VP would traditionally issue after a midterm.

So what do we make of it? Clearly he is trying to distance himself. But is he being given some light to distance himself?

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 03:08 PM (qCV5n)

333 "CNN's Kasie Hunt claims "it took us years to get" a blue "tsunami" midterm against President Trump.

Remember that "US" the next time CNN claims to be objective."

Spare me, ah FOX. Fox is also for dummies. Jesse Watters with pastie propellers over his tits and pumping pom poms.

Posted by: Sherpa_K2 at November 04, 2026 03:08 PM (mrBRn)

334 So, who fucked up the gas prices ? diesel prices? cost of health insurance ?

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:08 PM (AKptf)

335 Irans entire military response was basically get Dems elected in the midterms and it largely worked.

Ukraine's, too. Trump made a deal with Putin to drop diesel prices 2 weeks ago and the tracksuit midget Zelensky immediately blew up Russian refineries.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:08 PM (2ocoG)

336 The dem turn out in Texas was high and the Republican low because we had crap candidates. It was a perfect storm of both.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (9AdGW)

337 I remember atc walking away because we shit talked gays. I don't know who needs to hear this but I do believe we do shit talk, have shit talked and probably will continue shit talking literally every single group. News flash. We talk shit. 24/7.
Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 03:04 PM (enNUy)
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As long as we don't shit talk the Scandis. Or the Irish. Or old fat men. I draw the line there! And there. There, too.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (0uoWg)

338 287 259 If you can't convince your own party to nominate you, your chance of winning the general election is slim.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 02:50 PM (JM5dG)

That is completely untrue. The primary and the general are two completely different electorates.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM (QlFnJ)
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Oh, come on. Obviously no one can even get to the general if not nominated, so the difference in the electorate is completely beside the point.

You're misunderstanding me. You're looking at it from the supply side, what RDS could/should have done to win the primary. I'm talking about a DEMAND side problem. Republican primary voters are the variable in my hypothetical. They should have demanded competence and not the carnival.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (QlFnJ)

339 291 I'm just going to say it, I thought people like TJM were really nasty to regulars that were saying this coming election looks bad.

I know a real troll from someone that's actually expressing concern. I dont know why this site has to always take that posture of "owning" anyone that thinks all the data pointing to something might be right?

Posted by: some guy at November 04, 2026 03:02 PM (LpEN7)

TJM can be dismissive or sarcastic at times, but he had plenty of data to back up his views. If I had bet money, I'd have lost it betting his way.

And, to be blunt, people who disagreed with him or who worried he was wrong really couldn't point to anything other than polling data, which is notoriously unreliable. That hasn't changed.

Where I'm at (TX), the preelection polls were still way off. Just in a very undesirable way: they really understated how well the Democrats ended up doing.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (HFrEr)

340 I said it first thing this morning and will say it again. I got this election so wrong,

I will cowboy up and fight harder.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (8Uo7a)

341 311 ChristyBlinkey and Piper... Quit trying to make me feel better... I want to wallow in my sorrow...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026

Fair. You have 20 minutes to wallow. Then it’s up, up, girl, we have things to do.

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (ZdaMQ)

342 Dems are now required to deliver something. What is it they can deliver?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 04, 2026 03:08 PM (Wp1X1)

Wait till ya'll get a load of me...

Posted by: The Maverick - Bi-Partisan Specialist - Expert Aisle Crosser at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (lLeLE)

343 it's many things all at once, and they had to be done, and Trump knew he had maybe two years to do it, so he did the BBB, put most of his policies in there and had them codify it; so a win , huge win

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (AKptf)

344 And none of that explains why people elected radicals like Talarico and Abdul. Peggy Flanagan was up to her ass in the rampant are very visible fraud in Minnesota. She got elected. So did Omar and she didn't even campaign. Hell, Talarico took 2 weeks off in the closing of the campaign and he won.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 03:03 PM (viF8m)

Yeah, and somehow Biden got 81 Million votes from his basement...

And on the 25th Anniversary of 9/11, we have an Islamic Mayor of New York who supported Terrorist organizations.

Either:
A: The American Electorate has lost its collective mind.
or
B: Something is seriously wrong with our elections.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (mP0Kj)

345 It was Vance who helped negotiate the MOU with Iran that they violated 15 minutes after it was signed.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 02:52 PM (viF8m)

Hard to imagine someone worse than Pence...but here we are.

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (kJmLc)

346 >>they voted 67% for dems, even in Michigan with the jihad-adjacent asshole on the ballot. i don't get it

You don't get it because you don't listen:

Those who practice the religion vote overwhelmingly conservatively.

Those who wear the skinsuit (in order to claim a minority status) vote overwhelmingly progressive/liberally.

It is that simple.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (/izzV)

347 AtC made her choice. As was her right. People have their hierarchies of values and she acted on hers.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (Gqar8)

348 298 I wonder what issues led female voters to swing the election to the Democrats.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 03:03 PM (0uoWg)

White men under 44 also voted D...so, let's not just count women. This was a blowout for all races and genders (white women were about 50-50 45 and up)...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (Gb7+b)

349 313 >>>is increased attacks against synagogues, and Jews in general

they voted 67% for dems, even in Michigan with the jihad-adjacent asshole on the ballot. i don't get it
Posted by: brak at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM

I never understand any of it. It makes zero sense until you speak to one of the voters and then I realize as ace so aptly said, you cannot reason someone out of position they didn't reason themselves into.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (czPqD)

350 I still think there was a shitload of vote fraud. It's been reported to us every day leading up to the election. Most refused to take it seriously. As long as there's mail-in ballots and early voting, it'll happen every time. We're screwed if it's not corrected.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (g8Ew8)

351 What is it they can deliver?"

Not much.

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (pfXMo)

352 > Iran still has the uranium.
Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (Jr5Lq)

Which means fuck-all without centrifuges.

And you can't just run out and buy new ones at Home Depot.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (qlLNh)

353 I would expect the Dems to go after Hegseth because they will get GOP support in doing so.

I don't expect it, but I would love to see Trump give Hegseth his full support and basically take ownership of the Iran War.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (qCV5n)

354 So the youngsters are upset at their jobs because of h1bs but voted for the party who will open the doors to all immigration? Hope they get an NGO job.

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (enNUy)

355 You know what I hate, almost more than demonic Dims and what they believe in?

I hate "know it all" nostradamus people who "told us so" when Trump bombed Iran. They are bathing in "I told you so" today. May they drink their own bathwater and get tapeworms like that bear on the ONT.

The ONLY president in my 47yrs of marriage to stop Iran. And he's not finished, oh, no, he's not.

Even in 2025 I saw people wailing about the bombing of Iran's nuke mountain, how we'd lose the mid-terms, price of gas waaaa and ripping out their hair. Weeping, wailing, wanking.

I farht in your general direction.

Sometimes, as a fighter, you take a stand that might not be popular. That might result in what may have happened. Instead of fighting against the tide.

I fight. Do you, all ye keyboard warriors of woe?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVevetGlove at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (hzuYO)

356 I like Ron but, he got 9 delegates to the 2024 Republican National Convention, all from the Iowa caucus where he came in second. And dropped out immediately to endorse Trump. We didn't have much to do with it. The dogs just refused the dogfood. You can argue about why I guess but they did.
Posted by: toby928(c)

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All of that is water under the bridge, but of course the one term, former President is going to get nominated again to run.

But yea, before last night, I thought Trump was worth it even with the baggage, today, I'm not so sure anymore.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (wMYR8)

357 >>Far, far too many people are retarded emotional sheep. I hear it all the time..lose their minds over a dime increase in gas but can't wait to fork out $15 for a coffee.

I would have used the $3.50 bottle of water example...but, you nailed it.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (/izzV)

358 I would vote for Vance in a heartbeat if he ran for president. However, over the past few weeks he has done a few things that irritate me: his refusal to disavow Tucker's insane rantings, his too-public disapproval of Trump's actions in Iran, and his statement that he is a procrastinator and doesn't really think about big decisions he has to make until the last minute.

So as it stands now, I would vote for either Vance or Rubio, but I would prefer Rubio.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (3ImbR)

359 I thought people like TJM were really nasty to regulars that were saying this coming election looks bad.
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Well, generally he's a good dude, who I agree with mostly. Except on gasoline price effecting this election and fractional reserve banking. If you disagree with him on either of those two things you are a mouth breathing idiot. (Or maybe not)

Posted by: lets not go focusing on who did whut to 'ooom at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (anL5R)

360 Either:
A: The American Electorate has lost its collective mind.
or
B: Something is seriously wrong with our elections.

Healing power of AND.

Voters are nuts, but not as nuts as the election results say. There is substantial cheating going on in every state now, except Florida.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (2ocoG)

361 That was my gripe with Trump 1.0 - his EOs were wiped out as soon as Bidet took office, legislatively nothing got done. I get it , bad congress, but that is politics. Trump 2.0 internalized it and passed legislation.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (AKptf)

362 Did he get Trump's blessing on any of it?
Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 02:54 PM (qCV5n)
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After Vance's post, Trump said it's probably true about the war costing us.
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 04, 2026 03:05 PM (3ImbR)
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I think it was more the second round of the war and the clown show way it was run. We should have stopped with the destruction of Fordow. We were then assured we got their nukes.

But ... six months (?) later we then say "hey, we need to go to war again!" Huh?

Then the endless "deals" that really weren't, the deadlines that really weren't, the regime-change-no-regime change back and forth, confused and vague strategies and goals, and -- yes -- the nonstop propaganda from our political enemies.

We shoulda stopped at Fordow.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (iFTx/)

363 However, I'm pretty sure that having a crater full of radioactive glass where one of our cities used to be would also have had a "negative impact on the midterms".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 03:04 PM (qlLNh)

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Totally agree with this, however, I think Trump needed to explain this much better as the rationale for striking Iran.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (2UnvF)

364 312 Totally being sarcastic. I mean, why have competence when we can own the libs with some sick tweets.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 03:01 PM

I like Ron but, he got 9 delegates to the 2024 Republican National Convention, all from the Iowa caucus where he came in second. And dropped out immediately to endorse Trump. We didn't have much to do with it. The dogs just refused the dogfood. You can argue about why I guess but they did.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (JM5dG)

But he finally runs with no Trump on the ballot, who was pretty much his same populist standard-bearer...who else is gonna pick up the populist stick?

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (Gb7+b)

365 The dem turn out in Texas was high and the Republican low because we had crap candidates. It was a perfect storm of both"

We helped!

/the bushes

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (pfXMo)

366 they voted 67% for dems, even in Michigan with the jihad-adjacent asshole on the ballot. i don't get it

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (gw3RI)

I have written this only about 500 times.

They are not Jews. They are progressives with Jewish-sounding names who eat bagels on Sunday.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (k5CNB)

367 They should have demanded competence and not the carnival.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM

Perhaps there is some way to ... err ... compel the voters to select the 'better' candidate.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (JM5dG)

368 > Remember that "US" the next time CNN claims to be objective."

Are they even bothering to claim that any more?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (qlLNh)

369 I would expect the Dems to go after Hegseth because they will get GOP support in doing so.

I don't expect it, but I would love to see Trump give Hegseth his full support and basically take ownership of the Iran War.
Posted by: SH

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I have to think he's pissed at hegseth also. I'm assuming he's who pushed the war with iran in the first place.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 03:12 PM (wMYR8)

370 349 298 I wonder what issues led female voters to swing the election to the Democrats.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 03:03 PM (0uoWg)

White men under 44 also voted D...so, let's not just count women. This was a blowout for all races and genders (white women were about 50-50 45 and up)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (Gb7+b)

This was the first generation that was exclusively raised on tiktok and twitter first round at bat at the voting booth.

Posted by: The Maverick - Bi-Partisan Specialist - Expert Aisle Crosser at November 04, 2026 03:12 PM (lLeLE)

371 In my #331 I hit the Pixy Limit.

I think this applies to *our* voters. Yes, the dems are emotional about a lot of other things (trans, migrants, deportations, USAID, mean tweets,....) but that is a given.

I also think the biggest problem, especially regarding the war, was poor education and defense of his policies.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 04, 2026 03:12 PM (8nUmk)

372 I think yesterday's election is a Fat Man On The Ottoman event, and over just as fast. We are still Americans and, as Rush said so well, we will adapt. For the next two years politics is performative, Democrats will pass shit they know Trump will veto, and Trump will hilariously yank their chains. Then it gets serious again, for the Presidential election. There is a major problem ahead there, because right now you'd have to think Kamala and her vodka bottle stand a better than even chance of moving into the Presidency.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 03:12 PM (0uoWg)

373 damnnn soooooock I forgot about your clingy ways!

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 03:13 PM (lLeLE)

374 Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVevetGlove at November 04, 2026 03:10 PM (hzuYO)

Thanks, Christy. Good post.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2026 03:13 PM (JrHfD)

375 I think Trump needed to explain this much better as the rationale for striking Iran.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (2UnvF)

Exactly.

[Did you listen to our podcast? That's what I said!]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2026 03:13 PM (k5CNB)

376 I work for the state and will say all the state agencies are scrambling because this next Legislative session is going to be a mess. Everyone's contacts will be gone or in different positions and all the new people will have no idea what they are doing. Very little will get done next year. It will be 2 years after that we will see the big changes once they figure things out.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2026 03:13 PM (9AdGW)

377 I ask myself, just what “ kind” of Republican can we get elected in 28?

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 03:13 PM (Gqar8)

378 I have to think he's pissed at hegseth also. I'm assuming he's who pushed the war with iran in the first place.

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I have a very hard time believing that Hegseth pushed him into war. But if he did, then throw him under the bus.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 03:13 PM (qCV5n)

379 AllenG.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 02:24 PM (8Uo7a)

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What about him?

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (uKqbA)

380 >>>I'm just going to say it, I thought people like TJM were really nasty to regulars that were saying this coming election looks bad.

yeah I kept mentioning the changing demographics in Texas and he was always so dismissive -- I don't take offense though, we al are guilty of seeing things they way we want sometimes.

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (gw3RI)

381 But he finally runs with no Trump on the ballot, who was pretty much his same populist standard-bearer...who else is gonna pick up the populist stick?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM

Ron is probably going to run, and I will probably vote for him, I mean, I voted for Cruz the first time, so I'm not exactly a Trumpophile.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (JM5dG)

382 We helped!

/the bushes
Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (pfXMo)

More like they wet their political finger to feel the change in the winds.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (lLeLE)

383 357 I like Ron but, he got 9 delegates to the 2024 Republican National Convention, all from the Iowa caucus where he came in second. And dropped out immediately to endorse Trump. We didn't have much to do with it. The dogs just refused the dogfood. You can argue about why I guess but they did.
Posted by: toby928(c)

Reagan ran in '76. Lost to Gerald Ford.

It's been done.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (OkYzo)

384 I ask myself, just what “ kind” of Republican can we get elected in 28?
Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 03:13 PM (Gqar

The one that gets stuff done, has a record of getting stuff done ?

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (AKptf)

385 I'm assuming he's who pushed the war with iran in the first place."

Hmm. Interesting

Posted by: man at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (pfXMo)

386 Babylon Bee had a funny one today, midterms turned on not enough lakes being renamed "America".

It would be even funnier if we could actually laugh about it.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (wMYR8)

387 The Republicans haven't tried to fix Obamacare because a lot of health maintenance companies and insurance companies are in their districts.
Gotta get their little taste the R's do

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (8VNAp)

388 "Iran still has the uranium.
Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 03:06 PM (Jr5Lq)

Which means fuck-all without centrifuges."

If we learned anything from the war, it's that the enemy has extensive underground facilities we just don't know about, e.g., from which to source and launch missiles and drones.

I have no confidence that they lack centrifuges. For all we know, they could already be assembling nuclear weapon prototypes. If they didn't have the incentive before, they surely do now.

This is a tar baby we might not be able to safely walk away from.

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 03:15 PM (Jr5Lq)

389 I think Trump needed to explain this much better as the rationale for striking Iran.

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For sure. And I think the better rational should have been we are going to get them back for taking our citizens hostages 50 years ago. Pure vengence. But then add, we will take their oil too.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 03:15 PM (qCV5n)

390 Far, far too many people are retarded emotional sheep. I hear it all the time..lose their minds over a dime increase in gas but can't wait to fork out $15 for a coffee.

I would have used the $3.50 bottle of water example...but, you nailed it.
Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (/izzV)
________

Yea. It's part of the reason why AtC's explanation (above) doesn't explain all of it. How does the GOP rationally explain to voters what they're doing and why when so many voters are fucking idiots who (i) believe Democraps when they promise free shit and utopia and (ii) whine and cry about small increases in costs while they're pissing away 10x that on junk.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2026 03:15 PM (iFTx/)

391 We got RECORD LOW MURDERS because we deported the criminals.
Obama statistics on deportation are fraudulent. He didn't get crime or overdoses to go down.

Posted by: torabora at November 04, 2026 03:15 PM (Wt1Rs)

392 385 I ask myself, just what “ kind” of Republican can we get elected in 28?
Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 03:13 PM (Gqar

The one that gets stuff done, has a record of getting stuff done ?
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (AKptf)

Sounds good. We need to pay attention to their wrapping.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 03:15 PM (Gqar8)

393 Totally agree with this, however, I think Trump needed to explain this much better as the rationale for striking Iran.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (2UnvF)

Should have made a televised address to a JOint Session, or even an Oval office address. He should have dome a lot of these

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 03:15 PM (kJmLc)

394 Trump is the one who wanted to hit Iran. He is the one who understood that is the only way to take care of the nuke issue. Why are people reluctant to believe it , even when he talked about it for decades ?

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:16 PM (AKptf)

395
They are not Jews. They are progressives with Jewish-sounding names who eat bagels on Sunday.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM

I know Catholics that only do the Easter or Christmas mass and they're pro abortion. You can guess how they vote. Same thing.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 03:16 PM (czPqD)

396 Decaf, he was the burn, salt and scatter guy that was being asked about.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 03:16 PM (8Uo7a)

397 Posted by: The James Madison, Sooper Genius at November 04, 2026 03:15 PM (8RdGl)

I'm pretty sure this is a banning.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:16 PM (JM5dG)

398 > They are not Jews. They are progressives with Jewish-sounding names who eat bagels on Sunday.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM (k5CNB)

Agreed.

However, that won't save them when the guys with scimitars come to hack off their heads.

Then again, we also have "Queers for Palestine" so it's not like the left doesn't have other examples of being stupidly suicidal.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 03:16 PM (qlLNh)

399 We shoulda stopped at Fordow.

Yes and no. If we stopped at Fordow and did nothing else, we'd still have a hostile, insane state with ICBM capability. I still think the Iran war is going to be a historical net positive for the entire world, but Trump didn't even try to explain what was actually happening.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:17 PM (2ocoG)

400 This is a tar baby we might not be able to safely walk away from.
==
If everything you said before the sentence above is true, the it is also a tar baby we couldn't ignore any longer.

Posted by: real politic sometimes leads to war at November 04, 2026 03:17 PM (anL5R)

401 Trump ran on mass deportations and won a huge majority, the biggest by any Republican ever, including from the precious Latinos, in 2024.

It's the gas prices, caused by the Iran War, which resonate throughout the whole economy because fuel drives up the cost of everything else.

We are a democratic empire, not a virtuous republic. No one cares how many legionnaires fall in battle, no one cares how many Parthians they kill, or which client sits on the throne. They care about the price of bread in Rome.

You could nuke every city between Gibraltar and Xinjiang and no one would give a shit if in doing so the price of gas stayed at 2.67 where it was on New Year's Day 2026. It's that simple.

Truly, Donald Trump is the ultimate avatar of Boomer Republican, he is them in all their glory and stupidity, deep patriotism and abject retardation in equal measure. Intoxicating and infuriating and something that could only be made in America. I have treasured the last decade. I hope and pray for a Caesar. I don't want the last American to be a bombastic showman. I want to rage against the dying of the light.

Posted by: Vick King at November 04, 2026 03:17 PM (OPlHs)

402 I like Ron but, he got 9 delegates to the 2024 Republican National Convention, all from the Iowa caucus where he came in second. And dropped out immediately to endorse Trump. We didn't have much to do with it. The dogs just refused the dogfood. You can argue about why I guess but they did.

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Well, things can change a lot in a couple of years. Ron may look a lot more attractive now.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 03:17 PM (qCV5n)

403 Trump should have been prepared to level Iran's infrastructure in those first few weeks and he wasn't.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 02:55 PM (sKqQm)

Does speak to what I always say and one of the biggest problems in the modern civilized world.

Do NOT play at war. GI break *all* the shit GO

Unfortunately it's easy to say - but he probably doesn't want to do all the killing required which would mean lots and lots of women and children. But don't play. Pattycake never goes anywhere good.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2026 03:17 PM (i+GzW)

404 291 I'm just going to say it, I thought people like TJM were really nasty to regulars that were saying this coming election looks bad.

I know a real troll from someone that's actually expressing concern. I dont know why this site has to always take that posture of "owning" anyone that thinks all the data pointing to something might be right?

Posted by: some guy at November 04, 2026 03:02 PM (LpEN7)

Reminds me of the days back in 2020 when it was blasphemy around here to question Dave in FL. He had colossal egg on his face after that one.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 04, 2026 03:17 PM (QlFnJ)

405 396 Trump is the one who wanted to hit Iran. He is the one who understood that is the only way to take care of the nuke issue. Why are people reluctant to believe it , even when he talked about it for decades ?
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:16 PM (AKptf)

I agree. Iran should have been defeated in 1981. It became a growing problem and a festering wound.

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 03:17 PM (kJmLc)

406 I think Trump needed to explain this much better as the rationale for striking Iran.

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For sure. And I think the better rational should have been we are going to get them back for taking our citizens hostages 50 years ago. Pure vengence. But then add, we will take their oil too.
Posted by: SH

===

I think at least part of this is, he never had a good reason to communicate.

WMD's? Didnt we already try this once with Iraq?

And the Trump told us the stealth bomber mission completely took out their nuclear weapons.

And then we were only going to be doing this a few weeks and then leave.

I know Trump gets a lot of room to bullshit, but there's only so many time you can lie and people tune you out.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 03:17 PM (wMYR8)

407
3) I looked and sounded like a retard to anyone with 2 brain cells and a functioning synapse.
Posted by: The James Madison, Sooper Genius at November 04, 2026 03:15 PM

You seemed to have pissed off some people for I guess being incorrect.

Let he who is without sin...

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 03:18 PM (czPqD)

408 I have to think he's pissed at hegseth also. I'm assuming he's who pushed the war with iran in the first place.

Hegseth? Trump's been talking about the need to get the mullahs since the 1980s.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:18 PM (2ocoG)

409 382 But he finally runs with no Trump on the ballot, who was pretty much his same populist standard-bearer...who else is gonna pick up the populist stick?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 03:11 PM

Ron is probably going to run, and I will probably vote for him, I mean, I voted for Cruz the first time, so I'm not exactly a Trumpophile.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (JM5dG)

Cruz will also run...but like you, I'm staying far away from a Cruz vote for 2028...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 03:18 PM (Gb7+b)

410 385 I ask myself, just what “ kind” of Republican can we get elected in 28?
Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 03:13 PM (Gqar

The one that gets stuff done, has a record of getting stuff done ?
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (AKptf)

The one that doesn't preach about the ME wars being a disaster then go and immediately start a military campaign in the middle east just cause Mossad fed him some intel?

That one might be a bit crucial, but its also gonna take another generation or two, about 20-30 trillion more in inflationary debt, and probably a decent strategy to get out of the, my presumption, economic depression will we going through. So I guess we got some time to figure that one out.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 03:18 PM (lLeLE)

411 In this time of dismay, I recall the advice of Rush Limbaugh...the best revenge against the left is to live well.
As I gaze out into my sunset years, that is exactly what I plan to do. Shoot my guns, smoke my cigars, drink good whiskey, eat good food, and love my family and my God.

** fist bump **

The young have chosen a different path. We have no obligation to follow them.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 04, 2026 03:18 PM (xE0sV)

412 Catholics that only do the Easter or Christmas mass and they're pro abortion. You can guess how they vote. Same thing.
Posted by: CaliGirl

CEO Catholics, the ones that fill the pews before we get to MASS on those few days.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 04, 2026 03:19 PM (NnhvP)

413 Posted by: The James Madison, Sooper Genius at November 04, 2026 03:15 PM (8RdGl)

I'm pretty sure this is a banning.
Posted by: toby928(c)
==
Pretty sure the "sooper genius" saves it. It makes it clear that it is not the real poster and is sarcasm.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at November 04, 2026 03:19 PM (anL5R)

414 > I have no confidence that they lack centrifuges.

I do, as pretty much proven by the fact that we haven't seen any big glowy bangs. I have 100% confidence that Iran will build and use a nuke about 10 microseconds after they get enough highly-enriched uranium.

If we're lucky, it will be a test.

If we're not, it will be Tel Aviv, or New York, or Washington DC.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 03:20 PM (qlLNh)

415 Reminds me of the days back in 2020 when it was blasphemy around here to question Dave in FL. He had colossal egg on his face after that one.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November

It wasn’t questioning him, it was how it was done. There are actual lines that shouldn’t be crossed, even here.

Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 03:20 PM (ZdaMQ)

416 Regardless of what I said above, I do think there is great dissatisfaction with Trump that made a lot of people stay home.

1. The young are disaffected, especially with H1bs, bad career prospects, high cost of housing, and a class stratification where the older generations have their stuff, but the young feel they will never get their.

2. The Iran war and Israel. These two overlap. There is a lot of antisemitism and a lot of people who think the Iran war is driven by Israeli interests not America First.

3. High cost of living. Gas prices are a stand-in here, and they are not bad but generally people see that groceries cost 2x what they did before Covid and they want that fixed. It is unfixable, but it is a daily reminder of how fucked "capitalism" has become.
Posted by: bob

Awwwww. The yutes are disaffected. Wait'll they see how high the cost of everything goes under dems. LOL

They ain't seen high yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2026 03:20 PM (7Ne0P)

417 Lindsey Graham at the behest of Mossad got Trump to break his ME Promise.

I'm pretty sure Hegseth was quite happy w/ just booting some brass and the draggin ass out of the military.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:18 PM (2ocoG)

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 03:20 PM (lLeLE)

418 One thing is clear, The Donald's chances at reelection are kaput.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:20 PM (JM5dG)

419
Then again, we also have "Queers for Palestine" so it's not like the left doesn't have other examples of being stupidly suicidal.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 03:16 PM (qlLNh)

I think queers for Palestine is founded by the fact that Islam has no issues with transing gays and calling them women.

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 03:20 PM (kJmLc)

420 I think at least part of this is, he never had a good reason to communicate.

WMD's? Didnt we already try this once with Iraq?

---------------

Which is why the better rational would have been:

They took our citizens hostages. No country on earth can do that and expect to get away with it. We will get our revenge no matter how long it takes. It is time they paid for that act 50 years ago.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 03:20 PM (qCV5n)

421 Trump is the one who wanted to hit Iran. He is the one who understood that is the only way to take care of the nuke issue. Why are people reluctant to believe it , even when he talked about it for decades ?
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:16 PM (AKptf)
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I think it's partly because we've talked about it for decades that people were skeptical. Cry wolf and all. Plus, people became very skeptical after the Iraq WMD fiasco.

I also think people were willing to destroy Fordow and understood what it meant. That was a popular strike.

But then, after saying "mission accomplished," we went back to war 6 months (?) later because of ... what, exactly? That was were the messaging fell apart and the public turned against it.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2026 03:21 PM (iFTx/)

422 381 >>>I'm just going to say it, I thought people like TJM were really nasty to regulars that were saying this coming election looks bad.

yeah I kept mentioning the changing demographics in Texas and he was always so dismissive -- I don't take offense though, we al are guilty of seeing things they way we want sometimes.
Posted by: brak at November 04, 2026 03:14 PM (gw3RI)

Well, he's rightly dismissive of that view. As I've said: Abbott was + 11 in 2022 and he's -8 to -10 in 2026. TX demographics did not change enough in 4 years' time to cause a 20-point swing.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 04, 2026 03:21 PM (HFrEr)

423
I thought people like TJM were really nasty to regulars that were saying this coming election looks bad.

Honestly, you shouldn't get too worked up over what pixel people say to you good or bad.

Letting them live in your skull is stupid. But, maybe that's just me.

I rarely get into a squabble unless someone is just being a dickweed, then I miiiiight retort. But, usually I just walk away. Cuz...meh.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 04, 2026 03:21 PM (YSUhf)

424 That Trump surrounded himself with likeminded people on Iran, like Hegseth and Rubio should not be a surprise. Vance was sort of thrown upon him by Kirk and Don Jr. But he could have made Burgum or Rollins the VP, and won the same. The assassination attempt forced him to accelerate the process.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 03:21 PM (AKptf)

425 342 311 ChristyBlinkey and Piper... Quit trying to make me feel better... I want to wallow in my sorrow...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026

Fair. You have 20 minutes to wallow. Then it’s up, up, girl, we have things to do.
Posted by: Piper at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (ZdaMQ)
*******
I never, ever let anyone see me cry.
Even with my own grief over a loved one. This is what I somehow inherited from my stoic grandmothers as I cannot explain it otherwise.

In college when my bf/husband broke up with me and, the first of 3 times I was hurt. I never shed a tear in front of him.

I never weep when crap hits the fan and have always been this way. I cry when it's over and in private. I was 3 days into being 16yrs old when my father almost bled to death in our front pasture. I go back to that moment in how I react to anything. I held his hand and did not weep til the medical helicopter left with him... and then I prayed he'd live and he did.

If I have tears in my eyes they are of joy. Like when I'm told by our sons of a grandchild on the way.

I also, now, don't weep in front of my army of men as it is their undoing at funerals.

I sure as heck don't give in to politics.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVevetGlove at November 04, 2026 03:21 PM (hzuYO)

426 Trump's been talking about the need to get the mullahs since the 1980s.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:18 PM (2ocoG)

Had Reagan any guts he'd have handles it before the cancer spread

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 03:21 PM (kJmLc)

427 Democrats have mastered the art of slowly and quietly creating horrible situations, like importing millions of illegals, whose only solution requires Republicans to do really ugly things.
They did this with homelessness, the national debt (Republicans helped), Social Security, our school systems, and probably several things I'm missing.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 04, 2026 03:21 PM (0MjtC)

428 Like the day after skynet had nuked the planet. Well Mark Levin is certainly getting his shit pushed in. “Hey Mark, I’ll save you time for your podcast tomorrow,” wrote Jesse Cinco, a former U.S. Army special operations soldier, content creator and political commentator. “It was the war in Iran that utterly BETRAYED the voting base that elected Trump, cheered on by SUBVERSIVE TRAITOR scum like yourself, that caused this midterm result.”

Posted by: Sherpa_K2 at November 04, 2026 03:21 PM (mrBRn)

429 We got secular Christians too

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 03:22 PM (enNUy)

430 "capitalism" has become.
Posted by: bob

Ahh yes, that damned capitalistic money printing The Feds did.... curse that capitalism....

I joke but ya, the younger gens think that is what capitalism is. so shits fucked.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 03:22 PM (lLeLE)

431 Reminds me of the days back in 2020 when it was blasphemy around here to question Dave in FL. He had colossal egg on his face after that one.

It wasn't questioning, it was a Maoist struggle session of people trying to get him to accept blame for Biden stealing the election.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:22 PM (2ocoG)

432 You certainly know nothing about technology.
Posted by: The James Madison, Sooper Genius at November 04, 2026 03:21 PM/i]

Heh.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:22 PM (JM5dG)

433 No doubt already said: the shift in 18-29 year olds likely has to do with them being laid off or unemployed thanks to LEGAL immigration via foreign students and H1-b.

The GOP calls them lazy and undeserving of government benefits. Meanwhile, every other demographic and particularly new and non-citizens getting all the benefits - and then helping themselves to 200x more.

But sure, call Gen Z Americans lazy and unworthy.

How’d that work out???

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2026 03:22 PM (4KUe5)

434
They took our citizens hostages. No country on earth can do that and expect to get away with it. We will get our revenge no matter how long it takes. It is time they paid for that act 50 years ago.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 03:20 PM

This x 1000

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 03:22 PM (czPqD)

435 dammit

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:22 PM (JM5dG)

436 "If we're lucky, it will be a test. If we're not, it will be Tel Aviv, or New York, or Washington DC."

What do we do now? How do we keep them stymied without long duration sustained warfare?

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 03:24 PM (Jr5Lq)

437 Letting them live in your skull is stupid. But, maybe that's just me.

I rarely get into a squabble unless someone is just being a dickweed, then I miiiiight retort. But, usually I just walk away. Cuz...meh.
Posted by: naturalfake

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Did you say SUSQUEHANNA HAT COMPANY!!!!!

Posted by: Guy on street talking to Lou Costello at November 04, 2026 03:24 PM (8nUmk)

438 I like Cruz, especially since he is the only candidate in recent decades that seems to agree that the Constitution places any limitations whatsoever on Presidential authority.

But he just doesn't have the "riz", as the kids today would say.

If we elected Presidents based on actual competence, Thomas Sowell would've served two terms beginning in 1965, followed by a Constitutional amendment that permitted him (but just him) to serve as many additional terms that he wanted.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 03:24 PM (qlLNh)

439 Had Reagan any guts he'd have handles it before the cancer spread

Yeah, one of Reagan's misses, although that's also with the benefit of 40 years of hindsight.

His biggest miss was still believing the Democrats and going along with the 1986 amnesty. That's what ruined California and spawned the entire idea of the Great Replacement.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:24 PM (2ocoG)

440 This x 1000
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 03:22 PM (czPqD)

That and they tend to sponsor terror...with all their Obama cash

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 03:25 PM (kJmLc)

441 Either:
A: The American Electorate has lost its collective mind.
or
B: Something is seriously wrong with our elections.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (mP0Kj)

Embrace the power of "and".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2026 03:25 PM (0kX4S)

442 >>Totally agree with this, however, I think Trump needed to explain this much better as the rationale for striking Iran.

I've always thought that was a mistake. I also don't think it would've made a bit of difference about yesterday.

An extra slow 3rd grader understands why we need borders and laws. Do you see Democrats agreeing with either of these points?

These are the same people who rally to the side of a woman who murders her children and cheers when they pass abortion up until the moment of birth. These people do not see the world the same way we do.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 03:25 PM (viF8m)

443 His biggest miss was still believing the Democrats and going along with the 1986 amnesty. That's what ruined California and spawned the entire idea of the Great Replacement.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:24 PM

His biggest mistake was GHW Bush.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:25 PM (JM5dG)

444 Its like MUMR has returned. Ack.

Posted by: Bill the Cat spitting up a hairball at November 04, 2026 03:25 PM (anL5R)

445 @356
Great, we stopped Iran and lost America in the process.

Posted by: anon2020 at November 04, 2026 03:25 PM (/WpXc)

446 Democrats have mastered the art of slowly and quietly creating horrible situations, like importing millions of illegals, whose only solution requires Republicans to do really ugly things.
They did this with homelessness, the national debt (Republicans helped), Social Security, our school systems, and probably several things I'm missing.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 04, 2026 03:21 PM

* smiles *

Posted by: Big Penguin at November 04, 2026 03:26 PM (0sNs1)

447 Its like MUMR has returned. Ack.
Posted by: Bill the Cat spitting up a hairball at November 04, 2026 03:25 PM

I think TJM fucked his girlfriend.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:26 PM (JM5dG)

448 Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:24 PM (2ocoG)

Being born in 1954, I recall people expecting a huge retaliation. Instead we got Iran Contra

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 03:26 PM (kJmLc)

449 Abdul got elected because Michigan is like a lot of other states in which you have university cities, a large metropolitan area that is traditionally blue versus a lot of land area with a much fewer population. Almost all of Abdul’s support and Democrat support came from Detroit, Flint, Lansing, and Ann Arbor. I saw an electoral map this morning in which virtually all of the rest of the state counties are colored red. I believe Rogers lost by around 200,000 votes. Out of 15 or 17 million. Take for example, Ann Arbor in the townships which are rural around it. The Democrats won by 75% versus 24% for the Republicans. You can’t have a tiny township like I live in with 2400 people and the remaining townships with about the same number of residents counteracting a university town with 100,000 people, the majority of which are liberal. And they all voted for Abdul and sent Deby Dingle back to Congress.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 04, 2026 03:26 PM (EiUt/)

450 They took our citizens hostages. No country on earth can do that and expect to get away with it. We will get our revenge no matter how long it takes. It is time they paid for that act 50 years ago.

Posted by: SH

==

Honestly, if that was it, it's a dumb reason.

he certainly never campaigned a single time on going to war with Iran over the hostage situation in 1979.

Should we also reinvade Vietnam and North Korea? I understand they killed some of our soldiers.

Posted by: Leupold at November 04, 2026 03:26 PM (wMYR8)

451 I for one liked hearing TJM (and Dave in FL) express their opinions, given how constantly the drumbeat of polling was so negative. It isn't a question, for me, of who was right or wrong, it was more that I like hearing divergent views and making up my own mind. Of course, I also drank a lot last night so I'm in kind of a live and let live mood today.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 03:26 PM (6Xuoc)

452
Heh.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:22 PM (JM5dG)

I thought that was him being sarcastic. I should just be quiet.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 03:27 PM (czPqD)

453 442

These are the same people who rally to the side of a woman who murders her children and cheers when they pass abortion up until the moment of birth. These people do not see the world the same way we do.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 03:25 PM (viF8m)

Yes, and they are Legion, whether we like that fact or not. Between them, and the Feckless, we are Not the majority now.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 03:27 PM (Gqar8)

454 Nood Disney bullshit

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 03:28 PM (enNUy)

455 Define “American” electorate.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2026 03:28 PM (4KUe5)

456 Heh.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:22 PM (JM5dG)

I thought that was him being sarcastic. I should just be quiet.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 04, 2026 03:27 PM

I was just chuckling since I had a forty year career in technology.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 04, 2026 03:28 PM (JM5dG)

457 Of course, I also drank a lot last night so I'm in kind of a live and let live mood today.
==
THIS. IS. THE. WAY.

*intensifies*

Posted by: meme at November 04, 2026 03:29 PM (anL5R)

458 Awwwww. The yutes are disaffected. Wait'll they see how high the cost of everything goes under dems. LOL

They ain't seen high yet.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2026 03:20 PM (7Ne0P)

Prices will rise regardless because we are over the fiscal cliff. There is no politically feasible way to balance the budget. The only question going forward is which voting blocs will get money from the treasury.

Better to be on the winning side, and then you can collect your entitlements. It's a completely rational act. Democratic politicians get into power and then reward their voters. Republicans reward some of their voters, and fuck over others. Then are shocked when the ones they fuck over don't show up for the midterms.

People really need to stop arguing about the mythical politics of a fiscally conservative republic that hasn't existed in 100 years. This is a "money printer go brrrrrr" patron-client democracy. Vote in your politicians, get paid, take care of your own group.

Posted by: Vick King at November 04, 2026 03:29 PM (OPlHs)

459
Letting them live in your skull is stupid. But, maybe that's just me.

I rarely get into a squabble unless someone is just being a dickweed, then I miiiiight retort. But, usually I just walk away. Cuz...meh.
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Did you say SUSQUEHANNA HAT COMPANY!!!!!
Posted by: Guy on street talking to Lou Costello at November 04, 2026 03:24 PM (8nUmk)

Wow. I did not get the reference.

And I pride myself on the huge garbage pile of useless information clogging up my brain.

What short or movie is that from?

Posted by: naturalfake at November 04, 2026 03:30 PM (YSUhf)

460 Being born in 1954, I recall people expecting a huge retaliation. Instead we got Iran Contra
Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 03:26 PM

I think actual foreign adventurism would've played poorly in the 80s because the decade was saturated with weeping about Vietnam, but I could be wrong.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 03:30 PM (2ocoG)

461 Then it gets serious again, for the Presidential election. There is a major problem ahead there, because right now you'd have to think Kamala and her vodka bottle stand a better than even chance of moving into the Presidency.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 04, 2026 03:12 PM (0uoWg)

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If I were not already happily married and, well, while still holding my own as a grandmother former supermodel...I'd propose to you online today.

Thank you.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVevetGlove at November 04, 2026 03:31 PM (hzuYO)

462 I have no confidence that they lack centrifuges. For all we know, they could already be assembling nuclear weapon prototypes. If they didn't have the incentive before, they surely do now.

This is a tar baby we might not be able to safely walk away from.
Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 03:15 PM (Jr5Lq)

What would stop them from taking their uranium, and burning it in breeder reactors to make plutonium for weapons? It's not like they have a safety culture.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2026 03:31 PM (0kX4S)

463 Let me rephrase my figures for Abdul versus Rogers. 3,400,000 voted for Abdul, 2,800,000 voted for Rogers. So it was about a 600,000 loss. Scratch the 15 to 17,000,000. The votes for Abdul came from Lansing,which hosts the Democrat state government, and Michigan State, Ann Arbor with th University of Michigan, Flint which has a lot of poverty and blue collar and Detroit which is a blue collar/millennial local. All major Democrat areas. With a large percentage of the population.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 04, 2026 03:32 PM (EiUt/)

464 337 The dem turn out in Texas was high and the Republican low because we had crap candidates. It was a perfect storm of both.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2026 03:09 PM (9AdGW)

I dunno about that low R turnout. Apparently, Abbot got 100k more votes yesterday then he got in 2022. But the Democrat managed to get an extrra 1.7 million votes than Beto got in 2022!!

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 04, 2026 03:32 PM (CY0Pe)

465 > What do we do now? How do we keep them stymied without long duration sustained warfare?
Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 03:24 PM (Jr5Lq)

Well, I don't think there's any way, without an outright invasion that no one has the stomach for.

The best we can do is keep bombing the piss out of anything that looks like a centrifuge complex.

That's probably doable... it's the kind of thing that's hard to hide.

If they build it underneath a mountain, you just keep bombing the mountain until all the entrances are under a zillion tons of rubble.

Also we prosecute, bomb, or sanction (as feasible/appropriate) any organization or country that supplies these cavemen with the stuff they need to build new centrifuges.

Does any current pol have the guts to do this, other than Trump?

No names come to mind.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 04, 2026 03:34 PM (qlLNh)

466 One of the many reasons my approval of Trump increased was because he was reversing the Biden policies that caused higher gas prices. But I guess the average voter has the memory of a gnat.

Posted by: Emmie at November 04, 2026 03:34 PM (gvM6N)

467 An extra slow 3rd grader understands why we need borders and laws. Do you see Democrats agreeing with either of these points?

These are the same people who rally to the side of a woman who murders her children and cheers when they pass abortion up until the moment of birth. These people do not see the world the same way we do.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 03:25 PM (viF8m)

It is a completely rational act to import millions of people who will vote for you. That's how serious political parties operate: things that increase their power, they do.

It's a completely rational act to toe the line for your most loyal voters. Abortion advocates are high turnout voters who donate money and time to the Party. Of course they are rewarded with policy victory. That's what a serious political party does. Your strongest soldiers are awarded positions of high honor. You do for the Party, the Party rewards you.

The Democrats punish their enemies with power, take away their money, and give it to their supporters. That's what makes them a ruling party. They use power.

Posted by: Vick King at November 04, 2026 03:40 PM (OPlHs)

468 Voting for a muz is stupid. Michigan is stupid.

Posted by: connected and litigious at November 04, 2026 03:41 PM (cS1cw)

469 I go on record as being thankful Trump bombed the Iran uranium mountain of doom in 2025.

I am thankful he did something unpopular that no other President since 1979 has done to stop the future killing of Americans on our soil.

To cripple Iran. And he did, financially and towards making the bomb to kill us.

I remain thankful for all he's done.

Do I whine online about it? NO

Do I online warrior whine and fret about this? NO

Does he irritate me with his twitterings? Yes. He's not a God to me or perfect. I would vote for him again.

Does his ego irritate me? Yes

Does his America First and nationalism of closing the border and deporting barbarians please me? YES!!!

Do the wimps who fretted over the mid-terms since 2025, due to his bombing Iran irritate me?
BIG OLE YES, INDEED, looking at you with green lasers

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreatIronFistVelvetGlove at November 04, 2026 03:49 PM (hzuYO)

470 Yeah, late.

Gas my ass. PA has the 2nd highest state gasoline tax in the US, and it's not stopped anyone from zipping around the highways like a fool.

Gas prices rose significantly under the Biden administration - peaking at a nominal all-time high national average of $5.01 per gallon in June '22.

First people returning to work AND travel, so gas demand surged. But, we were told global oil producers could not restart supply & drill quickly enough to match demand.
Then OPEC+ oil cartel deliberately kept production cuts in place longer than expected.
Russia & Ukraine, with Russia being one of the worlds largest oil exporters. Biden administration and EURO pals banned imports of Russian crude oil.
U.S. refineries faced immediate shortages, sending pump prices to record highs.
ON HIS 1ST DAY IN OFFICE, Biden cancelled the permit for the Keystone XO pipeline & placed a temporary moratorium on new oil & gas leases on federal lands, offshore waters.
Wall Street & energy cos hesitated to invest billions in long-term drilling projects for fear future laws that would make them unprofitable.

Trump gets msm touting 'travel dilemmas' & gas prices rising at warehouse clubs.

BS

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 04, 2026 04:01 PM (NFX2v)

471 Print more money !!!!!!!!!!

AND Free Sh*t for everyone Mentality won for now...

Wait a year or two when inflation is back to 10% and Gas is still high...

Trump needs to finish off Iran Now. F**k what Schumer and Jefferies say when their Menstrual Cramps increase.

Next two years nothing will change and in January 2027 more24/7 Investigations into Trump...

Just do it... You have nothing to Lose......

Posted by: Jackson K. at November 04, 2026 04:03 PM (jGtoG)

472 Trump and the feckless Republican team ran on fixing the economy, cutting inflation and the debt, no new wars and America first.
America got Israel first, high inflation with moderate gains due to tariffs, more debt, more war and more gubmint. Debt like a new York veteran politician. Trump became another politician. The outsider became just another insider with a cabinet stacked with people who represent another country and favor constant war. For profit.
What JD Vance tweeted today would have easily kept everyone and everything. If the Republicans bothered to deliver on anything. Just one big bloated debt building piece of human waste. That's what they did his first 2 years in 2016-2018. But we could afford it then. Trump managed things until he let the Medical Midget ©® talk us into the shutdown.
They didn't even need it this time. Trump gave them everything they needed and more.
Teflon Don is now Trashheap Trump.
I voted for him and his agenda every year. Sadly he left us behind to cater to his internal DC advisors. Look how well that worked out.

Posted by: Sandman arriveth at November 04, 2026 04:20 PM (Rpl3I)

473 No more war. Period. Unless you want a full on dsa run and unstoppable socialism everywhere. They took Texas, south Carolina, kansas and unseated a moderate leftist in Maine. They've got the upper hand for the next two years and maybe 4 or 6. More of the last 2 years is suicidal. To be point blank.

Posted by: Sandman arriveth at November 04, 2026 04:24 PM (Rpl3I)

474 I dunno about that low R turnout. Apparently, Abbot got 100k more votes yesterday then he got in 2022. But the Democrat managed to get an extrra 1.7 million votes than Beto got in 2022!!
Posted by: Serious Cat at November 04, 2026 03:32 PM (CY0Pe)

That is hilarious.

In addition to every Texas county swinging blue. Texas was a fair and honest election!

Posted by: Ann at November 04, 2026 04:26 PM (SHHm+)

475 What short or movie is that from?
Posted by: naturalfake

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Gosh I went away without answering.

This is a famous Abbot and Costello skit, easily found by googling.

It is based on a standard Vaudeville set skit, which I understand was done by many. Similar to the "slowly I turned" skit that A&C also did. In it, two guys are casually talking and whenever one mentions the Susquehanna Hat Company, a third person goes nuts and starts ranting about how they ruined his life and the mere thought of that name makes him crazy. He works himself up and starts destroying and beating the one guy (Lou).

ie, that company is living in his head rent free.

Posted by: Guy on street talking to Lou Costello at November 04, 2026 04:30 PM (8nUmk)

476 new thread up

Posted by: Ann at November 04, 2026 04:32 PM (SHHm+)

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