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THE MORNING RANT: Trump Executive Order Targets Employers that Lay Off American Citizens to Hire Foreign H-1B Labor

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There was great news over the weekend, as President Trump just issued an Executive Order to combat H-1B abuses, and to hold accountable those employers who terminate American employees and then replace them with foreign H-1B labor.

The H-1B issue has become a major political issue, with growing disgust among the American public about employers bringing non-citizens from foreign countries to the states for the purpose of displacing American workers. As I have previously documented, the appeal of H-1B labor for those abusing it is usually for one of the following reasons:

1) It’s a form of chattel labor, in which the H-1B worker is paid less than American prevailing wages, creating a de facto indentured servant relationship, because the H-1B employee may not seek other employment.

2) A way for those of an anti-American bent to provide employment in the United States to preferred foreign demographics.

There are a disgusting number of stories to be found about corporations laying off American citizens to replace them with foreign H-1B labor right here on American soil. Microsoft is one of those dishonorable companies:

“Fury erupts as US brand fires 1,600 employees after securing thousands of foreign worker visas” [Fox News – 7/09/2026]

Microsoft announced that it will lay off 4,800 people total and 1,600 from the corporation's XBOX division, which makes and sells the dominant video game console. Meanwhile, Microsoft has been approved this year to hire from foreign countries 2,273 employer-sponsored, non-immigrant workers under what is known as the H-1B visa program.

The business fad of replacing American employees with foreign chattel labor had become so “respected” that even the semi-public TVA utility tried to do this a few years ago – until President Trump got wind of it. Then-CEO Jeff Lyash thought it would be clever to find “cost savings” by laying off American citizens. Apparently cost savings helped justify his $8 million compensation. Even worse, Lyash made the laid-off employees train their foreign replacements – the corporate term was “knowledge transfer.” President Trump was so angry that he fired several TVA board members, including the chairman, for allowing this to happen, and for not immediately firing Lyash. Donald Trump takes H-1B abuse seriously.

Disney also engaged in the despicable practice of making employees train their own H-1B replacements before dismissing them: “It’s Not A Small World After All: Disney IT Employee Trains His Own H-1B Replacement Then Gets Laid Off” [The Dallas Express – 4/27/2026]

It’s often a condition in these situations that if the employee being let go wishes to receive a severance package, he must first train the indentured servant H-1B who is taking his job.

Ideally, the president wouldn’t have to address the H-1B mess with executive orders if Congress would do its job. Unfortunately, there is a solid bi-partisan majority in Congress in favor of replacing American labor with foreign labor, specifically:

1) Democrats who despise the United States, its people, and its heritage; They therefore seek to aid foreign nationals (and their homelands) at the expense of Americans.

2) Corporate / Chamber of Commerce Republicans who have embraced slavery-adjacent forms of labor in their quest to reduce labor expense to as close to $0 as possible.

It is tiresome that those of us who oppose the H-1B replacement of American workers are branded as “racist” by Democrats, RINOs, and the media. I’d like to push back and ask how it’s not racist that 70% of all H-1Bs come from just one country – India. Is it not racist that hiring managers trying to hire for “jobs Americans won’t do” look almost exclusively to India?

America’s adversary, the People’s Republic Of China, provides another 12% of all H-1Bs. A whopping 82% of all H-1Bs come from India and Communist China.

Returning to the specific subject of today’s post, here is what President Trump’s new Executive Order entails:

• Companies petitioning for H-1B employees (or subcontracted H-1Bs) must disclose all previous and planned layoffs. Federal agencies must ensure that laid off workers are not being replaced with H-1Bs.

• To approve an H-1B going forward, a byzantine tangle of bureaucratic approvals will be needed from various federal agencies, with input required from the Departments of State, Labor, Homeland Security, Commerce, Education, and SBA. The process full of red tape is part of the deterrent.

• The Department of Labor’s Wage and Hour Division is going to start auditing previous applications to determine if violations have occurred and if enforcement penalties should be imposed.

There may be consequences for employers replacing Americans with foreign labor, but the obvious intent is to re-set the playing field so that employers stop trying to find workarounds to replace their American workforce with imported labor.

The text of President Trump’s executive order can be found at this link. Here is a sample of what it says:

The abuse of cheaper H-1B labor places downward pressure on domestic pay. H-1B visa holders earn far less than comparable United States-born workers, despite the statutory mandate that H-1B workers be paid equally to their domestic peers, with the estimated wage gap starting at $9,000 and climbing as high as $20,000 in H-1B reliant industries. One company even warned its shareholders that restrictions on cheap H-1B labor could force the company to use “local” workers, which “may only be available at higher wages.”

Many employers have laid off large numbers of highly skilled American workers, only to promptly hire large numbers of H-1B workers who are often lower-skilled and lower-paid. For instance, technology sector employers have collectively requested H-1B visas for hundreds of thousands of workers, yet have also laid off somewhere between 800,000 to 1.3 million American employees from 2022 through 2026. Employers have even forced laid off American workers to train their foreign replacements.

One last comment: Socialism is flourishing as a political and economic concept right now. We on the political / economic right must repel the advance of socialism and protect the free market economy. But it is extremely deleterious to our cause when the corporate class is seeking the replacement of the American workforce with a foreign workforce by using the indentured servant model of labor.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM




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1 Hey-O!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2026 11:00 AM (rOKnE)

2 Yeah, but I saw that Bangladeshi man at my Costco, so Trump hasn't done anything.

And I will react by not voting at all for the more conservative replacements of Tillis, Mitch, Cassidy, or Cornyn in order to punish Trump and push the party to the right.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:03 AM (SvJcA)

3 >>. As I have previously documented, the appeal of H-1B labor for those abusing it is usually for one of the following reasons: . . .


3) For an Indian promoted to an executive position to replace his American staff with friends and relatives from his/her home region, enabling him/her to facilitate the immigration of his/her people, have a compliant, homogenous workforce AND to get kickbacks from each one of them with every paycheck forever.

See: former Walmart IT executive who was bringing in something like $30k a day in exployee kickback because he converted the entire Walmart IT division to Indians.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2026 11:04 AM (rOKnE)

4 USAA is another company.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:05 AM (GlLw/)

5 And I will react by not voting at all for the more conservative replacements of Tillis, Mitch, Cassidy, or Cornyn in order to punish Trump and push the party to the right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:03 AM (SvJcA)
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Wisdom, how does that work?

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:06 AM (GlLw/)

6 I'm also on the H1B hate train, tooting the horn. I deal with a lot of H1B visa holders and they are mostly good folks but the company/agencies exploit them. Always looking to hire who will work for less, which is normal but should not be encouraged

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at September 21, 2026 11:07 AM (xcxpd)

7 Trump keeps destroying the pillars of illegal immigration.

Not all at once, and not outside the limits of Executive Branch authority, but he's destroying them all the same.

We've been saying for YEARS that the government needs to start punishing employers for hiring illegals. Welp. Trump is punishing employers for hiring illegals.

Take the W, Horde. Take the W.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:07 AM (gLYp7)

8 Having to train your replacement is a dick move. Under any set of circumstances.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2026 11:07 AM (2Cry5)

9 Also, some X sleuths are uncovering details of the Indian H1-b invasion being led by politicians back in India, specifically Modi, using diaspora to politically infiltrate and effect both US political parties.

This is about political dominance over America (and one assumes, other countries such as Canada).

Will find and link. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2026 11:08 AM (rOKnE)

10 One of the small fights going on right now on conservative X timelines is centered around dissident righties quoting Founders' views on immigration (Jefferson, Gouverneur Morris, for example) without attribution and then being attacked by others (Insurrection Barbie seems to be the locus of this) as being communists for not wanting immigration from everywhere.

Example:

https://x.com/ChristianHeiens/status/
2101827878249714041

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:08 AM (SvJcA)

11 8 Having to train your replacement is a dick move. Under any set of circumstances.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2026 11:07 AM (2Cry5)

Well, unless you announced your retirement...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2026 11:08 AM (tOcjL)

12 5 And I will react by not voting at all for the more conservative replacements of Tillis, Mitch, Cassidy, or Cornyn in order to punish Trump and push the party to the right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:03 AM (SvJcA)
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Wisdom, how does that work?

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:06 AM (GlLw/)

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The party abandoning W in 2006 because of the amnesty push actually led to the party going further to the left.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:09 AM (SvJcA)

13 But then who will terrorize audience with wild mountain cat?

Posted by: Tarbash the Egyptian Magician at September 21, 2026 11:09 AM (7Q0e+)

14 >>Take the W, Horde. Take the W.


THIS!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2026 11:09 AM (rOKnE)

15 Shitloads of fraud as far as "university" system in India. Just handing out diplomas.

India is not our friend.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2026 11:09 AM (d7mRD)

16 We're talking dot not feather here, right?

Posted by: Just to clarify at September 21, 2026 11:10 AM (2Ez/1)

17
I'd like the gov't to combine H1B reform with deportation of the H!Beavers.

Over the last few years, good old All-American Dallas haas turned into a three way race to see whether it becomes-

New Calcutta, Mecca on the Brazos, or Prairie Peking.


I know, I know...

I denounce myself.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 21, 2026 11:10 AM (iJfKG)

18 7 Trump keeps destroying the pillars of illegal immigration.

Not all at once, and not outside the limits of Executive Branch authority, but he's destroying them all the same.

We've been saying for YEARS that the government needs to start punishing employers for hiring illegals. Welp. Trump is punishing employers for hiring illegals.

Take the W, Horde. Take the W.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:07 AM (gLYp7)

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Let's be straight on this one:

It's a pillar of LEGAL immigration.

Trump is the most anti-LEGAL immigration administration since, probably, Calvin Coolidge.

And it's a good thing because of how twisted our legal immigration system has become.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:10 AM (SvJcA)

19 I hope that the examples made out of the companies is harsh enough to warn the rest.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 21, 2026 11:11 AM (svLOV)

20 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:10 AM (SvJcA)

This is actually an important point.

I regularly conflate H1Bs with illegals because of the systemic abuse written into the system.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:11 AM (gLYp7)

21 19 I hope that the examples made out of the companies is harsh enough to warn the rest.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 21, 2026 11:11 AM (svLOV)

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There are statutory limits on the fines that DOJ can ask for and the judiciary can impose.

Increases in fines will have to come from Congress.

Still, things like this rule change (looking at layoff history before approving H1-B visas) will have larger effects that the direct legal ramifications like fining.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:12 AM (SvJcA)

22 We're up to our necks in dusky Pajeets with fraudulent education/experience credentials. Let them stay in India and fix their own messes.

Posted by: 'Murica For 'Muricans at September 21, 2026 11:12 AM (Fn+3X)

23 Over the last few years, good old All-American Dallas has turned into a three way race to see whether it becomes-

New Calcutta, Mecca on the Brazos, or Prairie Peking.


Posted by: naturalfake at September 21, 2026 11:10 AM (iJfKG)

NOW what am I supposed to do?!
- Debbie

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:12 AM (gLYp7)

24 As long as this doesn't impact our Butter Chicken Strategic Reserve, we'll be fine.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 21, 2026 11:13 AM (bX16E)

25 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at September 21, 2026 11:15 AM (dpXJq)

26 Trump is the most anti-LEGAL immigration administration since, probably, Calvin Coolidge.

And it's a good thing because of how twisted our legal immigration system has become.
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I see no reason to allow ANY level of legal immigration for at least a couple of decades.

Posted by: Crusader at September 21, 2026 11:15 AM (TN0g+)

27 >>Take the W, Horde. Take the W.

You know what's weird? 3rd worlders have been invading almost every western country for years and almost nobody realizes it isn't a coincidence.

Also, illegal aliens taste like sea otter.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:15 AM (viF8m)

28 This all started with Hadji from Jonny Quest!

Posted by: Insidious, It Was at September 21, 2026 11:15 AM (Fn+3X)

29 Dusky Pajeets would make a good name for a team in the Banana Ball league.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)

30 It seems like Trump always threatens to go after this, and then backs down when industry leaders make a big stink.

I really don't care about the consequences, shut it down as much as possible. Its sort of sickening to see the amount of Indians and Pakistans that dominate communities in my area now that work for all of these companies. They dont enrich our community.

It really is a textbook "they are stealing our jobs" situation.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:15 AM (Zx1Cw)

31 Let's be straight on this one:

It's a pillar of LEGAL immigration.


There are two definitions of legal: the one that foreign-born Federal judges uphold, and the one they don't.

Posted by: t-bird at September 21, 2026 11:16 AM (E/qck)

32 The younger generations are furious about this. It's good to see that Trump gets it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 21, 2026 11:16 AM (2UnvF)

33 Drumpffffff!

Injunction Junction what's your Function - to interrupt, delay and obstruct the Trumpkin!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge - Schoolhouse Rock Version at September 21, 2026 11:16 AM (anL5R)

34 How else am I going to get Chicken Vindaloo at 3 AM?

Posted by: Hangry Hank at September 21, 2026 11:16 AM (Fn+3X)

35 This guy has been digging:

https://tinyurl.com/5e9fyhrz

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2026 11:16 AM (rOKnE)

36 @18, 20 Trump is getting back at the Dems for screwing over Reagan on the immigration deal with Tip O'Neil

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 21, 2026 11:16 AM (taL2t)

37 20 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:10 AM (SvJcA)

This is actually an important point.

I regularly conflate H1Bs with illegals because of the systemic abuse written into the system.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:11 AM (gLYp7)

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https://x.com/derzum_/status/
2084729318849003733

"Aug 4
Replying to
@ThatTurboGuy
Green cards are down, naturalization is down, work visas down, births down, all the rest down since mid 2025. Chart there just shows a year over year rise because the previous year adds to the next."

Every visa class is down massively, and green card issuances are down by about half. This isn't "business as usual with an uptick in news about deportations."

It's a full frontal assault, to the limits of what the executive can do legally under the law, on the entire idea of immigration as it has stood for 60 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:17 AM (SvJcA)

38 The democrats often campaign on raising the minimum wage and then do everything the can to circumvent the rules.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 21, 2026 11:17 AM (HgNS2)

39 Also, illegal aliens taste like sea otter.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:15 AM (viF8m)

I have follow-up questions.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:17 AM (gLYp7)

40 How about an AI H-1B?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2026 11:17 AM (Cqx++)

41 How about an AI H-1B?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

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I do think AI is going to wipe out he majority of these H-1B type jobs.

What I dont get is, why move them over here at all? Just have them work in cubicle farms in India. Way cheaper.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:18 AM (Zx1Cw)

42 We're talking dot not feather here, right?
Posted by: Just to clarify at September 21, 2026 11:10 AM (2Ez/1)


Feather Indians are citizens and, consequently, do not require a visa.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2026 11:18 AM (ExV1e)

43 30 It seems like Trump always threatens to go after this, and then backs down when industry leaders make a big stink.

I really don't care about the consequences, shut it down as much as possible. Its sort of sickening to see the amount of Indians and Pakistans that dominate communities in my area now that work for all of these companies. They dont enrich our community.

It really is a textbook "they are stealing our jobs" situation.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:15 AM (Zx1Cw)

========

New applications for H-1B visas are down 80% since Trump 2.0 started.

But nothing is happening.

https://x.com/derzum_/status/
2043861161133666755

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:19 AM (SvJcA)

44 One other caveat about hiring from India is that India has the most muslims of any other country. And we certainly don't need more goat fuckers in this country.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 21, 2026 11:19 AM (g8Ew8)

45 If the Enemy Within were to pass laws that worked to our benefit, I might give the word 'legal' more deference.

Posted by: t-bird at September 21, 2026 11:19 AM (E/qck)

46 The democrats often campaign on raising the minimum wage and then do everything the can to circumvent the rules.
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Wait Wut?!!! Are you seriously suggesting that demorat campaign promises are disingenuous!

Posted by: That's shocking at September 21, 2026 11:19 AM (anL5R)

47 When I read an article about an Indian political animal bemoaning how so many of his countrymen were stranded in India over this, my sympathy burned out.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 21, 2026 11:20 AM (svLOV)

48 The party abandoning W in 2006 because of the amnesty push actually led to the party going further to the left.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:09 AM (SvJcA)
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Oh, I was snarking on "conservatives" voting for guys like Mitch to punish Trump.

Or saying they're staying home, allowing the left to advance.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:20 AM (GlLw/)

49 47 When I read an article about an Indian political animal bemoaning how so many of his countrymen were stranded in India over this, my sympathy burned out.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 21, 2026 11:20 AM (svLOV)

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"India sucks, we hate it here, and we're going to make the world India."
-a translation

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:20 AM (SvJcA)

50 I'm familiar with a particular WallyMart location where there seems to be an unwritten rule: if you ain't from Pock-ee-stahn, you can't work here. Don't get me wrong, the store is very well run, but this one attribute is obvious.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2026 11:21 AM (2Ez/1)

51 But nothing is happening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21,

For the first time in a bazillion years, the population of the United States is decreasing.

We're - FINALLY - actually re-taking ground.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:21 AM (gLYp7)

52 >>And it's a good thing because of how twisted our legal immigration system has become.


Utterly abused at this point.

All the Nick Shirley style citizen reporters who are tracing multiple companies w/dozens of H1-Bs to a random Dallas single family residence or Workspace type rent-a-desk style office.

All legal immigration pathways have been corrupted and must be halted/fixed. Thank God Trump and team are doing this.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2026 11:21 AM (rOKnE)

53 48 Oh, I was snarking on "conservatives" voting for guys like Mitch to punish Trump.

Or saying they're staying home, allowing the left to advance.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:20 AM (GlLw/)

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I understood!

I'm just showing that the whole, "Punish the party for going to the left by not voting," just ends up leading the party...going to the left.

When leadership is heavily to the left of the party and the base abandons them, they take it as a signal that they have accumulated more power.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:21 AM (SvJcA)

54 The truth comes out. Tom Bodett left the lights on at Motel 6 so the cockroaches stay hidden. Indians are not famous for their hygiene and cleanliness.

Posted by: Temple Rats at September 21, 2026 11:22 AM (Fn+3X)

55

Oh no no no no no no no no no no...

Posted by: Condescending Arrogant Wog at September 21, 2026 11:22 AM (VWtfl)

56 I'm familiar with a particular WallyMart location where there seems to be an unwritten rule: if you ain't from Pock-ee-stahn, you can't work here. Don't get me wrong, the store is very well run, but this one attribute is obvious.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

==

The WalMart near me all of a sudden had a flood of Somalians or Hatians working there, then one day they disappeared. Before Trump cracked down on them.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:22 AM (Zx1Cw)

57 One other caveat about hiring from India is that India has the most muslims of any other country. And we certainly don't need more goat fuckers in this country.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 21, 2026 11:19 AM (g8Ew
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I thought Indonesia had the largest muslim population of any other country of the world, with around 240 million.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:22 AM (GlLw/)

58 I do think AI is going to wipe out he majority of these H-1B type jobs.

What I dont get is, why move them over here at all? Just have them work in cubicle farms in India. Way cheaper.
==
its harder for them to vote for us from India, and their kids don't get counted in the public school rolls unless they move here, so our teachers unions don't get the funding they need to kick back to us when the student census falls.

Posted by: Easy peasy Demorat squeezy at September 21, 2026 11:22 AM (anL5R)

59 One other caveat about hiring from India is that India has the most muslims of any other country. And we certainly don't need more goat fuckers in this country.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 21, 2026 11:19 AM (g8Ew

I thought that was Indonesia?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:22 AM (gLYp7)

60 51 But nothing is happening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21,

For the first time in a bazillion years, the population of the United States is decreasing.

We're - FINALLY - actually re-taking ground.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:21 AM (gLYp7)

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False.

Our population decreased because the government killed millions of white people while continuing to import almost as many Indians.

Facts.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:22 AM (SvJcA)

61 We need to limit welfare so our own American layabouts will get off their asses and work or go hungry.

Can't afford housing? I bet you can after we send 30 million illegals back. That is a lot of housing that will come onto the market.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 21, 2026 11:22 AM (HgNS2)

62 The democrats often campaign on raising the minimum wage and then do everything the can to circumvent the rules.

Understand the purpose of this promise.

Many union workers earn a multiple of the minimum wage. Raise the minimum wage by a dollar, they get a raise of 3 dollars. Folks just starting out will vote for it because they're stupid and don't think about the consequences. Unions vote for it because it's actually a sop to them.

As far as the effect on non-union, non-government, workers... Democrats don't care and never have.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2026 11:23 AM (ExV1e)

63 What I dont get is, why move them over here at all? Just have them work in cubicle farms in India. Way cheaper.
Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:18 AM (Zx1Cw)

Know how hard it is to find good chicken vindaloo in San Francisco?

Posted by: Some asshole mid-level manager at Microflop at September 21, 2026 11:23 AM (dpXJq)

64 61 We need to limit welfare so our own American layabouts will get off their asses and work or go hungry.

Can't afford housing? I bet you can after we send 30 million illegals back. That is a lot of housing that will come onto the market.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 21, 2026 11:22 AM (HgNS2)

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A Democrat with independent money who ran on a message of, "Welfare for all, but only Americans. Get the rest out," would do very well.

But, open borders is a virus that doesn't let go once it inhabits a host.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:23 AM (SvJcA)

65 On a similar note I always hated colleges giving sports scholarships to foreigners. In my case, my college tennis team.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:24 AM (KC5Lt)

66 The UN, that garbage dump of exceptionally stupid people, published a paper back in 2000 that helps explain how we got here.

>>Population Division
Department of Economic and Social Affairs
United Nations Secretariat
Replacement Migration

Replacement theory is just a whacky conspiracy theory. That's why the UN, a place we fund with our tax dollars, has been facilitating our replacement for a very long time. But if you notice it you are a nazi.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:24 AM (viF8m)

67 When leadership is heavily to the left of the party and the base abandons them, they take it as a signal that they have accumulated more power.
==
Uniparty.

Posted by: I did it with less words than you at September 21, 2026 11:24 AM (anL5R)

68 My voting strategy is always incredibly simple. Never vote for a Democrat under any circumstance. All else flows from there.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:24 AM (Gqar8)

69 > What I dont get is, why move them over here at all? Just have them work in cubicle farms in India. Way cheaper.
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Some companies do this. They leave them in their home country. Why?

It's cheaper. The company might still pay for health care, but it's in the employee's home country. Cheap.

Plus, termination is easier. Send a text... "you're fired." Not a lot Abu can do about that from India.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2026 11:25 AM (2Cry5)

70 Washington Nearsider,

It is.

But his point is still valid, that muslim immigration to this country must be curtailed or even banned.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:25 AM (GlLw/)

71 India's largest export is H1Bs.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2026 11:26 AM (Nz9I3)

72 Not great, Buck.

It was really bad optics, but it only addresses the short term issue. It is disgusting that it took so long for this small step. The whole justification for h1bs was labor shortage of key skills, but then these companies are doing that crap. They should have liquidated the companies caught doing this. seriously.

The long term issue is reestablishing the pipeline of kids going into those key skills and that takes time. Unless h1b are eliminated the pipeline will never be filled. I have worked in tech during periods of skills shortages and *we trained kids off the street* for entry level jobs. This was common practice in many industries throughout history.

I am so fucking disgusted with the Usa immigration justification bullshit. Fuck all these people.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 21, 2026 11:26 AM (LfiSD)

73 Can't afford housing? I bet you can after we send 30 million illegals back. That is a lot of housing that will come onto the market.
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Yep. Its supply and demand. Democrats acknowledge that supply and demand explains economics--they dump oil from the strategic reserve when they're in the White House because they know that it will (temporarily) reduce gas prices.

And then 15 minutes later, they go back to ignoring supply and demand and work to raise the minimum wage or import foreigners.

Posted by: Crusader at September 21, 2026 11:26 AM (TN0g+)

74 India's largest export is H1Bs.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2026 11:26 AM (Nz9I3)

And stink.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:26 AM (gLYp7)

75
But his point is still valid, that muslim immigration to this country must be curtailed or even banned.
Posted by: SMH at
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ISLAMOPHOBE!!!

I KEEL YOU!!!!!!

Posted by: Achmed the Dead Terrorist at September 21, 2026 11:26 AM (anL5R)

76 It wouldn't be as bad if 90% of these immigrants and other type visa immigrants didn't hate America.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (KC5Lt)

77 They move them here so they can vote, and pollute the demographics in numerous ways. Death to America!!!! in other words. Simple plan.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (Gqar8)

78 Know how hard it is to find good chicken vindaloo in San Francisco?
Posted by: Some asshole mid-level manager at Microflop

I hear sea otters taste like chicken. So maybe sea-otter vindaloo?

Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (77rzZ)

79 There's no such thing as radical islam. There's just islam.

Act accordingly.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (viF8m)

80 well, what did everyone expect, srsly?

All this (h1-b bs) has ever been is one more offensive in the long, ongoing war against Americans; both culture and society must be destroyed in order to return the world to ignorance and feudalism.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (VyBeY)

81 New applications for H-1B visas are down 80% since Trump 2.0 started.

But nothing is happening.

https://x.com/derzum_/status/
2043861161133666755
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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It's a nice start, but Trump keeps backtracking on it imo. There was that interview with Laura Ingraham where she pressed this and Trump kept insisting we dont have the talent pool in the US and we need the program.

https://tinyurl.com/2js7pshm

Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (Zx1Cw)

82 76 It wouldn't be as bad if 90% of these immigrants and other type visa immigrants didn't hate America.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (KC5Lt)

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We are a creedal nation that doesn't kick people out for not adhering to the creed of the nation.

It's a problem. We used to do it. We used to be a proper nation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (SvJcA)

83 ISLAMOPHOBE!!!

I KEEL YOU!!!!!!
Posted by: Achmed the Dead Terrorist at September 21, 2026 11:26 AM (anL5R)
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Yeahyeahyeah, heard that before.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:28 AM (GlLw/)

84 Indian food is disgusting.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:28 AM (Gqar8)

85 81 It's a nice start, but Trump keeps backtracking on it imo. There was that interview with Laura Ingraham where she pressed this and Trump kept insisting we dont have the talent pool in the US and we need the program.

https://tinyurl.com/2js7pshm

Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (Zx1Cw)

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What Trump says is remarkably unimportant compared to the actual policy that happens.

As long as Stephen Miller is in charge of immigration, Trump can Boomer Brain talk about not going after this or that industry, and it won't matter.

Policy is far more important than rhetoric. And the policy is a ratchet one direction right now against immigration in all its forms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:29 AM (SvJcA)

86 There's no such thing as radical islam. There's just islam.

Act accordingly.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (viF8m)
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This^^^

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:29 AM (GlLw/)

87 I missed the deadline and was deported because of Jerry Seinfeld's negligence and laziness. He is a very bad man!

Posted by: Babu Bhatt at September 21, 2026 11:29 AM (Fn+3X)

88 EU just fined google $400 billion (or something - read pixy below) for targeted adds or some bullshit.

If the Us was serious, they would fine any company that laid off Americans and replaced them with h1bs 10x the salary of each and every worker, going back the last 10 years of h1b hiring.

Then make them re-hire the American worker at whatever it costs to entice them back. And fire the h1b, and ship their smelly asses and their smelly family all back to hindustan.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 21, 2026 11:29 AM (LfiSD)

89 A Democrat with independent money who ran on a message of, "Welfare for all, but only Americans. Get the rest out," would do very well.

Not that he's running for anything but this seems to be Musk's promise. It all still has to be paid for, of course, and who'll work at that point, but folks like to believe fairy tales.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2026 11:29 AM (ExV1e)

90 Indian food is disgusting.
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Their restaurants are dirty. The food is midling...to disgusting.

Posted by: Crusader at September 21, 2026 11:29 AM (TN0g+)

91 I'm familiar with a particular WallyMart location where there seems to be an unwritten rule: if you ain't from Pock-ee-stahn, you can't work here. Don't get me wrong, the store is very well run, but this one attribute is obvious.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty


I speak from first hand experience. When an indian becomes the hiring manager, the ethnic makeup of new hires immediately changes.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2026 11:30 AM (Nz9I3)

92 Indian food is disgusting.
Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:28 AM (Gqar
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I have all kinds of spices and seasonings in my kitchen.

Curry is not one of them.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:30 AM (GlLw/)

93 It's a nice start, but Trump keeps backtracking on it imo. There was that interview with Laura Ingraham where she pressed this and Trump kept insisting we dont have the talent pool in the US and we need the program.

https://tinyurl.com/2js7pshm
Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (Zx1Cw)

If you don't think anything has changed over the past year - that interview is just about a year old - than I don't know what to tell you.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:30 AM (gLYp7)

94 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 21, 2026 11:30 AM (ccf/V)

95 91 vI speak from first hand experience. When an indian becomes the hiring manager, the ethnic makeup of new hires immediately changes.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2026 11:30 AM (Nz9I3)

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I had more than one positive job prospect fall apart the second I got in front of an Indian manager.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:31 AM (SvJcA)

96 Think how many "starter homes" are bought by H-1 Visa holders and/or are rented by them.

You'd probably see housing fixed overnight in a lot of these communities if just shut it down.

Again, I have no idea why they cant just work from their home country. Most of what they do is over a computer or phone, it's not labor like landscaping or construction.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:31 AM (Zx1Cw)

97 good old All-American Dallas haas turned into a three way race to see whether it becomes-

New Calcutta, Mecca on the Brazos, or Prairie Peking."

Bbbbut all numbers must always go up!

/ your local CoC, who's also heavily invested in cheap apartments...

Posted by: man at September 21, 2026 11:32 AM (pfXMo)

98 I speak from first hand experience. When an indian becomes the hiring manager, the ethnic makeup of new hires immediately changes.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2026 11:30 AM (Nz9I3)
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That's exactly what happened at USAA.

Check out the HQ in San Antonio.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:32 AM (GlLw/)

99 A vast majority of the H1-B visa holders are from India. Indian programmers suck royally, so it shows why most software sucks royally.

They're nothing but cut/paste spaghetti coders that don't know what they're doing, only what they're TOLD to do.

Simply call AT&T or any other large organization (especially health care/insurance) and see how well they answer questions NOT on their script they're reading from........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 21, 2026 11:32 AM (ccf/V)

100
If you don't think anything has changed over the past year - that interview is just about a year old - than I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung

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i'm very happy with the progress Trump has made recently, wish he had cracked down harder on it in his first term.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:32 AM (Zx1Cw)

101 92 Indian food is disgusting.
Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:28 AM (Gqar
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I have all kinds of spices and seasonings in my kitchen.

Curry is not one of them.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:30 AM (GlLw/)

Wise. No more repulsive spice exists. They add other nasty things to the food, but curry is pervasise in the malodorousness.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:32 AM (Gqar8)

102 As long as Stephen Miller is in charge of immigration, Trump can Boomer Brain talk about not going after this or that industry, and it won't matter.
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Personnel is policy.

and on a related note - population is Country. If you replace your population with third worlders, you become a third world country - cause you aren't going to keep up your mtc, innovation, and tax base with third world dipshits.

Posted by: hey its not polite but that doesn't mean its incorrect at September 21, 2026 11:32 AM (anL5R)

103 We rarely think much about sewage treatment in the US. If you live in an incorporated municipality your dwelling is connected to the sewage system and the cost is covered in your water utility bill. In the hinterlands you have a septic tank.

Evidently the caste system is still ingrained enough in India that sewage treatment isn't nearly as invisible as it is here. Getting people to work in that industry is difficult and they simply don't have one of the fundamental pieces of infrastructure a modern society needs.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2026 11:33 AM (2Ez/1)

104 Indian food is disgusting."

Just wait until they open the aircraft doors...

*voice of experience

Posted by: man at September 21, 2026 11:33 AM (pfXMo)

105 Again, I have no idea why they cant just work from their home country. Most of what they do is over a computer or phone, it's not labor like landscaping or construction.
Posted by: Sharpie
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They don't like living in a toilet either, I reckon.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:33 AM (GlLw/)

106 There's no such thing as radical islam. There's just islam.

Act accordingly.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (viF8m)



7th century death cult does not equal a religion.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 21, 2026 11:33 AM (ccf/V)

107 Some lefty woke female fed judge just put a stay on Trump's reasonable adjustments of Student visas. Where he limited them to four years allowing for application for extension. And reducing the grace period to leave after expiration to 30 days from 60 days.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:33 AM (KC5Lt)

108
My school was suburban 3000 students. Everyone had their own thing going on for any one group to stand out too much. The whole John Hughes football players and cheerleaders being the cool kids was kind of a foreign concept to me. I assumed it was just a movies thing but I guess it was a thing in some schools.


Gonna have to disagree with you there, sparky. I'll be you also like bourbon.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2026 11:34 AM (Riz8t)

109 I say a prayer every night and morning the GOP can pull out and win the midterms, otherwise...the next 2 years is going to suck.

Posted by: sidney at September 21, 2026 11:34 AM (Uy/WF)

110 I hate curry.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:34 AM (KC5Lt)

111 >>As long as Stephen Miller is in charge of immigration, Trump can Boomer Brain talk about not going after this or that industry, and it won't matter.


And Marco Rubio at State, busily revoking visas for people who hate America and are here to stir up revolution on campus!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2026 11:34 AM (rOKnE)

112 If you replace your population with third worlders, you become a third world country - cause you aren't going to keep up your mtc, innovation, and tax base with third world dipshits.
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And you turn into a low-trust society that increasingly relies on surveillance tech.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:34 AM (GlLw/)

113 i'm very happy with the progress Trump has made recently, wish he had cracked down harder on it in his first term.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 21, 2026 11:32 AM (Zx1Cw)

Fair.

I don't think Trump knew enough in his first term. He thought he would just "President" his ideas into execution. That's not real life. Even Barack Obama acknowledged that when he was pressed on why Gitmo remained open, despite him swearing for years that he'd shut it down on Day One. He said something like "I learned an awful lot about the realities and limits on Executive Power that I didn't know before I got here."

This time, Trump has had four years to build a team of cutthroats who don't give a fuck anymore.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:35 AM (gLYp7)

114 Sorry, y'all, but I love Indian food.

Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:35 AM (77rzZ)

115 Wow, that did NOT go as planned.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2026 11:36 AM (Riz8t)

116 >> Again, I have no idea why they cant just work from their home country. Most of what they do is over a computer or phone, it's not labor like landscaping or construction.


Economic prosperity and a stable, first-world home.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2026 11:36 AM (rOKnE)

117 I wonder if any US IT workers, when training their H1-B replacement, include a number of undocumented hacks and neat tricks. Maybe something to execute at the end of a major upgrade that results in erasing half of the operating system or some such.

Posted by: George V at September 21, 2026 11:36 AM (g6ahB)

118 There's no such thing as radical islam. There's just islam.

Act accordingly.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:27 AM (viF8m)
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This^^^
Posted by: SMH
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Islamophobics!!

I KEEL YOU!!!!

Posted by: Achmed the Dead Terrorist at September 21, 2026 11:36 AM (anL5R)

119 114 Sorry, y'all, but I love Indian food.
Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:35 AM (77rzZ)

Except for the smell and the taste, it’s okay.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:37 AM (Gqar8)

120 109 I say a prayer every night and morning the GOP can pull out and win the midterms, otherwise...the next 2 years is going to suck.

Posted by: sidney at September 21, 2026 11:34 AM (Uy/WF)

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Immigration enforcement will continue unabated if Dems win either chamber (they have no shot of winning the Senate) because the OBBB fully appropriated funds to DHS through 2028.

The DOJ will still be under Trump's control, fighting anti-white and anti-civilian actions in corporate and government spheres.

The military will still be under Trump's control.

Yes, there will be impeachment theater, but impeachment theater has led to the political strengthening of every president it's been done against. So, it won't lead to conviction (if they couldn't get it done post 1/6, they'll never get it done against Trump), and it'll just end up making Trump more popular.

Honestly, losing the House could actually make winning in 2028 easier without actually slowing down any real policy by the administration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:37 AM (SvJcA)

121 New rule: H1-B's are not available to anyone until the US Unemployment rate is 0%, meaning every American available and willing to work, is.

THEN you can import the smelly bastards to take some open jobs.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 21, 2026 11:37 AM (ccf/V)

122 Pakistan also has way more muslims than India does.
Some y'all boas go a little ape-shit when your blood is up.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 21, 2026 11:37 AM (zdLoL)

123 Sorry, y'all, but I love Indian food.
Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:35 AM (77rzZ)
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That's fine.

Not everyone likes Korean food, and I absolutely love it.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:37 AM (GlLw/)

124 I see no reason to allow ANY level of legal immigration for at least a couple of decades.
Posted by: Crusader
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Rather than the immigrants becoming Americans, the immigrants are transforming America into their own culture.

There may be no better example than Warren, Michigan, as mentioned here yesterday.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2026 11:37 AM (XeU6L)

125 Simply call AT&T or any other large organization (especially health care/insurance) and see how well they answer questions NOT on their script they're reading from........


What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen sparrow?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2026 11:38 AM (Riz8t)

126 I've been complaining for years that we have started to become a 'good enough' culture and that is directly related to our third world immigration.

No pride in workmanship, kicking the can down the road , taking the easy path instead of the right path , etc.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:38 AM (KC5Lt)

127 114 Sorry, y'all, but I love Indian food.
Posted by: Bulg

I'll pay for your one-way ticket to Calcutta.

Posted by: The Mind That Alters, Alters All at September 21, 2026 11:38 AM (Fn+3X)

128 Sorry, y'all, but I love Indian food.
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I confess that Chicken Tikka Masala can become something an obsession for me.

Posted by: don't hate me at September 21, 2026 11:38 AM (anL5R)

129 Except for the smell and the taste, it’s okay."

Pretty much the same going in or...

Yikes

Posted by: man at September 21, 2026 11:38 AM (pfXMo)

130 India is not my favorite place but I give them credit for recognizing what islam was all about a very long time ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:38 AM (viF8m)

131 Pakistan also has way more muslims than India does.
Some y'all boas go a little ape-shit when your blood is up.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 21, 2026 11:37 AM (zdLoL)

Did someone say otherwise? I must have missed that.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:39 AM (KC5Lt)

132 I'll pay for your one-way ticket to Calcutta.
Posted by: The Mind That Alters, Alters All

That is, Indian food prepared in the US.

No way I'd eat it in its native setting.

Same for Chinese food.

Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:39 AM (77rzZ)

133
Sure you can find Americans for those jobs, but employers are fed up with Americans who won't show up on time, can't think their way through problems and collapse at the slightest criticism..

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2026 11:39 AM (eRlcH)

134 I wonder if any US IT workers, when training their H1-B replacement, include a number of undocumented hacks and neat tricks. Maybe something to execute at the end of a major upgrade that results in erasing half of the operating system or some such.
Posted by: George V at September 21, 2026 11:36 AM (g6ahB)


Absolutely not. The key is to NOT train them on the undocumented stuff that you need to know in order to have things work correctly.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2026 11:39 AM (ExV1e)

135 126 I've been complaining for years that we have started to become a 'good enough' culture and that is directly related to our third world immigration.
Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:38 AM

You get what you tolerate.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2026 11:39 AM (2Ez/1)

136 Same for Chinese food.
Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:39 AM (77rzZ)
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This^

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:40 AM (GlLw/)

137 So, why was there a program like this anyway? Really...

Posted by: man at September 21, 2026 11:40 AM (pfXMo)

138 Muslims make up 15% of India. So 225 million.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2026 11:40 AM (d7mRD)

139 >>Pakistan also has way more muslims than India does.

Yea, there's a reason for that.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:40 AM (viF8m)

140 132 I'll pay for your one-way ticket to Calcutta.
Posted by: The Mind That Alters, Alters All

That is, Indian food prepared in the US.

No way I'd eat it in its native setting.

Same for Chinese food.
Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:39 AM (77rzZ)

Your point is well taken. Sort of like buying farm raised tilapia from third world fish ponds.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:40 AM (Gqar8)

141 Honestly, losing the House could actually make winning in 2028 easier without actually slowing down any real policy by the administration.
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Wow, you are certainly in a good mood . . .

Posted by: irrational exuberance or just happy? at September 21, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)

142 You get what you tolerate.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2026 11:39 AM (2Ez/1)

Yeah I don't tolerate it or practice it but I'm only one person.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:41 AM (KC5Lt)

143
I like Indian food. But I don't like contamination.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 21, 2026 11:41 AM (VWtfl)

144 Evidently the caste system is still ingrained enough in India that sewage treatment isn't nearly as invisible as it is here. Getting people to work in that industry is difficult and they simply don't have one of the fundamental pieces of infrastructure a modern society needs.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 21, 2026 11:33 AM


Plus their holy river is literally filled with human waste and is among the world's most polluted rivers. It is the main water supply for over 50% of the country.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 21, 2026 11:41 AM (I43vL)

145 India is not my favorite place but I give them credit for recognizing what islam was all about a very long time ago.
Posted by: JackStraw

Hinduism isn't much better, though.

Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:41 AM (77rzZ)

146 corporation's XBOX division

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Slightly off topic but a word in support of capitalism. Witcher III was a huge video game success (and a most excellent game). Oftentimes, in such situations, after a few years, the publisher will offer a remaster to upgrade graphics, game play etc. and, not coincidentally, suck a few more dollars out of the fans. But these guys are doing it for free! If you already own the original game, come 9/29, you can download the upgrade for free!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 21, 2026 11:42 AM (ndZc7)

147 but employers are fed up with Americans who won't show up on time, can't think their way through problems and collapse at the slightest criticism.."

Hey, import workers from the 3rd world!

/ how stupid is that?

Posted by: man at September 21, 2026 11:42 AM (pfXMo)

148 AI:

Most of the world's Muslims live in South and Southeast Asia, rather than the Middle East. The countries with the highest numbers include:
Indonesia: ~242 million Muslims (about 87% of the population)
Pakistan: ~227 million Muslims (over 96% of the population)
India: ~213 million Muslims (about 15% of the population, making it the largest Muslim minority population)
Bangladesh: ~151 million Muslims (about 90% of the population)

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2026 11:42 AM (Riz8t)

149 140 132 I'll pay for your one-way ticket to Calcutta.
Posted by: The Mind That Alters, Alters All

That is, Indian food prepared in the US.

No way I'd eat it in its native setting.

Same for Chinese food.
Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:39 AM (77rzZ)

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I have had Indian food in India. Restaurant and home made.

My dad took me when I was 15. He was invited to a conference. The host made us a meal.

We avoided any fruits or veggies because of the washing in native water thing, but at heartily otherwise.

It was good.

The best restaurants were heavily Anglicized, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:42 AM (SvJcA)

150 It's a nice start, but Trump keeps backtracking on it imo. There was that interview with Laura Ingraham where she pressed this and Trump kept insisting we dont have the talent pool in the US and we need the program.

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In other words, another massive failure of the Dept of Education. America had unrivaled technical and entrepreneurial talent for most of the 20th century. The DOE fixed all of that by rotting the minds of America's youth starting in the late 70s under Carter the Retard

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 21, 2026 11:42 AM (HgNS2)

151 141 Honestly, losing the House could actually make winning in 2028 easier without actually slowing down any real policy by the administration.
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Wow, you are certainly in a good mood . . .

Posted by: irrational exuberance or just happy? at September 21, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)

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I've been saying that the 2026 elections are some of the least important in our lifetimes for almost 2 years now.

2028 is important.

2026 isn't.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:42 AM (SvJcA)

152 97 Once an Indian buys a house they'll sell only to other Indians. And to be fair most Americans wouldn't buy an Indians house, as the curry odor is more persistent than smoke. Tearing out carpeting and repainting doesn't work.

I've seen whole towns in CT become little Calcutta thanks to UTC H1Bs.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 21, 2026 11:43 AM (bX16E)

153 You know what the third-largest religion is in India, after Hinduism and Isla?

Christianity. There are like three states in India that are majority Christian.

Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:43 AM (77rzZ)

154 128 Sorry, y'all, but I love Indian food.
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I confess that Chicken Tikka Masala can become something an obsession for me.
Posted by: don't hate me

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what a terrible fucking reason to throw out 2000 years of struggle to build a civizaton. -- yeah, let's throw the west in the shitter to get get some new foods.

I really fucking hate people who talk about 'culture' and foods as justification for destroying out countries. Our children's legacy.

OK, I may be just a bit more pissed than usual right now. my keyboard battery is dying and I can not type some letters . apologies for my ranting.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 21, 2026 11:43 AM (LfiSD)

155 Again, I have no idea why they cant just work from their home country.

Because it's full of Indians?

I'll show myself out.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 21, 2026 11:44 AM (svLOV)

156 >>What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen sparrow?

*swallow

Posted by: one hour sober at September 21, 2026 11:44 AM (J4Dwc)

157 Hey, Bulg, I think my congrstulations to you and your wife fornniversaty got willowed. Congrstulations, may your partnership continue to bring one another joy.

Posted by: tankdemon at September 21, 2026 11:44 AM (dLfW+)

158 what a terrible fucking reason to throw out 2000 years of struggle to build a civizaton. -- yeah, let's throw the west in the shitter to get get some new foods.

I really fucking hate people who talk about 'culture' and foods as justification for destroying out countries. Our children's legacy.

OK, I may be just a bit more pissed than usual right now. my keyboard battery is dying and I can not type some letters . apologies for my ranting.


No, no, you sounded calm and serene.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t)

159 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:42 AM (SvJcA)

The movie Outsourced was really good but also reinforced my position that I will never travel to India.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:44 AM (KC5Lt)

160 153 You know what the third-largest religion is in India, after Hinduism and Isla?

Christianity. There are like three states in India that are majority Christian.
Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:43 AM (77rzZ)

33 million, according to Copilot.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:44 AM (Gqar8)

161 In other words, another massive failure of the Dept of Education. America had unrivaled technical and entrepreneurial talent for most of the 20th century. The DOE fixed all of that by rotting the minds of America's youth starting in the late 70s under Carter the Retard
Posted by: Lemmiwinks
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We just need to be paid more.

Posted by: The NEA at September 21, 2026 11:45 AM (XeU6L)

162 There are approximately 240 million Mohammedans in Indonesia, which is about 87% of the population.

Posted by: Since you asked at September 21, 2026 11:45 AM (2Ez/1)

163 The managerial mindset, the MBA disease, that infests business after a certain size, focuses on labor as an expense to be cut, rather than the value exchange provided.

It's the mind of a timid loser who dares not risk but rather prefers statis.

Rare is the CEO that sees growth as a cure to address labor expenses.
Because more than 9 out of ten CEOs are rewarded 100X over for cutting costs, while almost none are rewarded for growing the company.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 21, 2026 11:45 AM (3cUTc)

164 A vast majority of the H1-B visa holders are from India. Indian programmers suck royally, so it shows why most software sucks royally.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 21, 2026 11:32 AM (ccf/V)

One of the many things I hate about Win11 is the vast amount of random keyboard shortcuts that are automatically enabled. You can imagine how often I have to figure out how to fix things as the mother of a toddler and the owner of two kittens.

Posted by: pookysgirl, wrestling Lil Pooky for the keyboard at September 21, 2026 11:45 AM (Wt5PA)

165 what a terrible fucking reason to throw out 2000 years of struggle to build a civizaton. -- yeah, let's throw the west in the shitter to get get some new foods.

I really fucking hate people who talk about 'culture' and foods as justification for destroying out countries. Our children's legacy.
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I literally said don't hate me . . . .

We don't need to bring them in to cook it. They sell it in Jars now. You can buy it in the grocery store and dump it into your crock pot with a chicken.

Posted by: curled up in fetal position weeping bitter spicy tears at September 21, 2026 11:45 AM (anL5R)

166 Christianity. There are like three states in India that are majority Christian.
Posted by: Bulg

Goa.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2026 11:46 AM (d7mRD)

167 157 Hey, Bulg, I think my congrstulations to you and your wife fornniversaty got willowed. Congrstulations, may your partnership continue to bring one another joy.
Posted by: tankdemon at September 21, 2026 11:44 AM (dLfW+)

Note: I am not having a stroke. I am continuing to suffer from an undersized keyboard and oversized thumbs.

Posted by: tankdemon at September 21, 2026 11:46 AM (dLfW+)

168 159 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:42 AM (SvJcA)

The movie Outsourced was really good but also reinforced my position that I will never travel to India.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:44 AM (KC5Lt)

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We stayed at the Hilton in the diplomatic enclave in New Delhi.

It was clean and safe, though we still didn't trust the water.

The second you got out of those gates, cow shit all over the place and monkeys swinging around. Just, a dirty place.

We had our Hindu cab driver take us into the old city to see the Red Fort. He was obviously terrified for his life. The old city is entirely Muslim.

I remember a little girl coming up to our cab with her little brother in her arms, distended belly, begging for money.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:46 AM (SvJcA)

169 Would I travel to a heavily Muslim majority country? No.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:47 AM (Gqar8)

170 The rejection of leftism and 3rd World importation is global (Insty):

THE COLLAPSE OF THE EUROPEAN CENTER CONTINUES APACE: Merz’s CDU suffers total wipeout in state election.

The chancellor’s centre-Right party won 4.9 per cent of the vote in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, final results confirmed on Monday.

The hard-Right populist Alternative for Germany (AfD) took 38.2 per cent of the vote, while the hard-Left Die Linke beat the CDU in mayoral elections in Berlin. Mr Merz is scheduled to address the public on Monday afternoon.

The astonishingly poor result meant that, for the first time, the CDU failed to win enough votes to enter a state parliament in Germany.

Under the country’s voting system, parties that fall below the 5 per cent threshold are not assigned any seats in the next parliament.

Such a scenario was virtually unthinkable for the CDU – the German version of the Conservatives and a mainstay of coalition governments for decades – until Sunday night.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2026 11:47 AM (Riz8t)

171 Also, illegal aliens taste like sea otter.
Posted by: JackStraw


Watch out mister.

Its SEA OTTER AWARENESS WEEK!

Did you know sea otters hold hands while they sleep?

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 21, 2026 11:47 AM (H+3Km)

172 1) Indian food is good, specifically Goan food. Vindaloo is one of my favorite dishes.

2) Indians can fuck off. They bring their shitty caste system culture here and hire and promote their friends and fellow caste members and treat others like shit based on their Indian caste.

3) The H1B should be severely curtailed and most current H1B holders should be deported back to go shit in the streets of India.

Posted by: ballistic at September 21, 2026 11:47 AM (oqH4h)

173 as the curry odor is more persistent than smoke. Tearing out carpeting and repainting doesn't work."

Tell me about it. Saw a cute house for sale, open house on a Sunday. Cloudy, drizzly day, but as we pulled up, saw that all doors and windows were open, and the agent was sitting on the front porch.
We walked up, were invited in, and... holy cow. We didn't bother. The smell was that intense...

Posted by: man at September 21, 2026 11:48 AM (pfXMo)

174 I'm familiar with a particular WallyMart location where there seems to be an unwritten rule: if you ain't from Pock-ee-stahn, you can't work here. Don't get me wrong, the store is very well run, but this one attribute is obvious.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty


Yep. South Asians are some of the most notorious in-group hiring group.s

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 21, 2026 11:48 AM (OUMaO)

175 Would I travel to a heavily Muslim majority country? No.
Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:47 AM (Gqar
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I traveled there with a machine gun and other guys with tanks, so it was all good.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:48 AM (GlLw/)

176 I regularly conflate H1Bs with illegals because of the systemic abuse written into the system.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 21, 2026 11:11 AM (gLYp7)

Please to come and see the systemic abuse inherent in the system! Help, for I am being the repressed!

Posted by: Denniskruthamar Chatterjee the Peasant at September 21, 2026 11:48 AM (TbWk/)

177 Would I travel to a heavily Muslim majority country? No.
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So France is right out then?

Posted by: is it a joke? at September 21, 2026 11:48 AM (anL5R)

178 156 >>What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen sparrow?

*swallow
Posted by: one hour sober at September 21, 2026 11:44 AM (J4Dwc)

Wink

Posted by: That girl at the office that everyone really likes for some odd reason at September 21, 2026 11:48 AM (dpXJq)

179 My favorite rebuttal is:
If these H1Bs are so very, very valuable, a literal budding Einstein if you will, these corporations would gladly pay $1,000,000 application fee to have them here.
They'd be fighting each other to be the first to land them.

Because they'd earn the company 10X, 50X or one hundred times that fee.

Instead, they all--to a man--howled and filed suit when Trump proposed a measly, mere $100,000 fee.

And that right there betrays the sole and only motivation for US corporations to hire H1B.
Disgusting.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 21, 2026 11:49 AM (3cUTc)

180 Hey, Bulg, I think my congratulations to you and your wife for anniversaty got willowed. Congratulations, may your partnership continue to bring one another joy.
Posted by: tankdemon

Thanks, Tankdemon. We're slowly moving into our Golden Years. We're working on fixing up our house and moving somewhere farther to the west, away from DC, but not somewhere that's so rural we won't have quick access to medical facilities. Maybe Winchester, VA. My wife will retire in a few years, and I will a few years after her. (I'm younger than she is.) Once that happens, we will be able to enjoy each other's company full time.

We really are perfect for each other. It's been great being married to her.

Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:49 AM (77rzZ)

181 Goa."

Got a gold and ruby cross?

Posted by: man at September 21, 2026 11:50 AM (pfXMo)

182 The posh private pre-K-12 school I worked at had a silly study abroad program. A group of about 20 students and a teacher/mentor went to India for about 10 days, stayed in Mumbai the night before flying back (a 20+hour flight). Nearly everyone got violently ill with food poisoning that night/morning of the flight. Projectile diarrhea is no fun on an airplane, I'd guess.

Posted by: Bombs Away Over Bombay! at September 21, 2026 11:50 AM (Fn+3X)

183 > as the curry odor is more persistent than smoke. Tearing out carpeting and repainting doesn't work."
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Our spice cabinet smells of nothing but curry. And there are at least 3 or 4 dozen different spices in there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2026 11:50 AM (2Cry5)

184 I remember a little girl coming up to our cab with her little brother in her arms, distended belly, begging for money.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:46 AM (SvJcA)

Little bitch poaching on my turf!

Posted by: Sally Struthers at September 21, 2026 11:51 AM (TbWk/)

185 Islam is not a religion. It's an invasive totalitarian system of society.

Take a trip around any muslim country and check out the bumper stickers. Do you know what you will never see? One of those retarded coexist stickers.

Name me another "religion" that demands it's adherents lie, cheat and murder anyone who doesn't submit to them. Muslims don't want to coexist, they want you to submit or die. It's right there in their manifesto.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:51 AM (viF8m)

186 You don't favor curry?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2026 11:51 AM (Cqx++)

187 Does exorcism work for curry?

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:51 AM (Gqar8)

188 Pittsburgh has a sizable Nepali population. Their kitchen is the garage and the door is always open.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2026 11:51 AM (d7mRD)

189 187 Does exorcism work for curry?

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 11:51 AM (Gqar

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Fire purifies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:52 AM (SvJcA)

190 Our spice cabinet smells of nothing but curry. And there are at least 3 or 4 dozen different spices in there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2026 11:50 AM (2Cry5)
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Why I don't have curry in my kitchen.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:52 AM (GlLw/)

191 My husband has been dealing with a group of indians off shore that have been attempting to get their licenses to work on more back office tasks for a major bank here in charlotte. In two years with daily tutoring and prep, only a few have managed to pass any of the tests. I'm not sure why they continue to just throw money into a pit for all the good that it does.

Posted by: nckate at September 21, 2026 11:53 AM (enNUy)

192 Again if they just didn't hate America our immigration problems would be 90% less than they are.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:53 AM (KC5Lt)

193 Fire purifies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:52 AM (SvJcA)
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lol

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:53 AM (GlLw/)

194 Name me another "religion" that demands it's adherents lie, cheat and murder anyone who doesn't submit to them. Muslims don't want to coexist, they want you to submit or die. It's right there in their manifesto.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:51 AM (viF8m)

You forgot about porking nine year olds, but I digress.

I keel you.

Posted by: Mighty Moosleem Mujahid at September 21, 2026 11:53 AM (dpXJq)

195 Buck, as usual, is being jingoistic. In a free economy, an employer can hire whoever he thinks will deliver the most value for the price being paid. On average, people from the sub-continent are smarter than our home-grown workforce.

Posted by: Bert the Samoan Lawyer at September 21, 2026 11:53 AM (poJ35)

196 'Is it not racist that hiring managers trying to hire for “jobs Americans won’t do” look almost exclusively to India?' This is because all the fucking hiring managers are Indian and they are racists. I have been in IT since the early 80's and I keep seeing this happen over and over again. As long as a CIO gets a bonus, all is well with them.

Posted by: Huxley Orwell at September 21, 2026 11:54 AM (j3Fsw)

197 We really are perfect for each other. It's been great being married to her.
Posted by: Bulg

Winchester is nice. My son went to Pharmacy School there, but it's still under the thumb of CIA Barbie. I live 10 miles from the VA border, but NEVER go there unless it's an emergency.

Posted by: Red States Are Far Superior at September 21, 2026 11:54 AM (Fn+3X)

198 It was clean and safe, though we still didn't trust the water.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


That's a prudent policy in virtually any foreign country. My friends and I got dysentery from drinking water in a restaurant in Israel.

Bottled water only, from a well-established brand.

Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:54 AM (77rzZ)

199 "...cow shit all over the place and monkeys swinging around."

So you've been to a MoMe?

Posted by: Oops at September 21, 2026 11:54 AM (2Ez/1)

200 H1B visa holders seem really like indentured servants to me . Get out of line, out you go.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 21, 2026 11:54 AM (taL2t)

201 Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2026 11:51 AM (viF8m)

You forgot about porking nine year olds, but I digress.

I keel you.
Posted by: Mighty Moosleem Mujahid
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What he said *ululates*

Posted by: Achmed the Dead Terrorist at September 21, 2026 11:54 AM (anL5R)

202 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:46 AM

A former colleague is married to an Indian woman. According to her, her entire family said "sod this" and bolted for New Zealand, Australia or America as soon as possible because their native country is such an abject shithole.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2026 11:54 AM (bFu5X)

203 'Is it not racist that hiring managers trying to hire for “jobs Americans won’t do” look almost exclusively to India?' This is because all the fucking hiring managers are Indian and they are racists. I have been in IT since the early 80's and I keep seeing this happen over and over again. As long as a CIO gets a bonus, all is well with them.

If I were forced to hire foreign workers, I'd go with Koreans first, then Japanese, then Taiwanese.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2026 11:55 AM (Riz8t)

204
This guy has been digging:

https://tinyurl.com/5e9fyhrz

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2026 11:16 AM (rOKnE)



Wow, Lizzy. This is shocking.

If these were Russians we'd probably be preparing to go to war.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 21, 2026 11:55 AM (iJfKG)

205 I regularly conflate H1Bs with illegals because of the systemic abuse written into the system.

Many, of not most, H1B hirings are illegal, if I’m reading the laws right. If the hiring process followed the actual law involved, they would end up finding an American qualified and willing to take the job.

This doesn’t necessarily make the immigrant a criminal, but it does make their employer a criminal. It was an illegal immigration.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 21, 2026 11:55 AM (kYmoU)

206 'Is it not racist that hiring managers trying to hire for “jobs Americans won’t do” look almost exclusively to India?' This is because all the fucking hiring managers are Indian and they are racists. I have been in IT since the early 80's and I keep seeing this happen over and over again. As long as a CIO gets a bonus, all is well with them.
Posted by: Huxley Orwell at September 21, 2026 11:54 AM (j3Fsw)

Corporations don't exist to supply you with a job.

Posted by: The Chamber of Commerce at September 21, 2026 11:55 AM (TbWk/)

207 192 Again if they just didn't hate America our immigration problems would be 90% less than they are.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 11:53 AM (KC5Lt)

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America is a culture.

They can be ambivalent about it and do as much damage because they end up preferring their own.

I think back to the opening of The Godfather and the Sicilian man's insistence that he loves America as a contrast. Or the song America in West Side Story.

It was apparently a bit of a lie, Little Italy was a thing because Italians didn't want to become part of the American culture, instead choosing to recreate the Old Country on new shores, but it was still an idea that you could see in some form for a time.

Probably a concentrated effort to turn immigration views positive in a country that had effectively barred it for 40 years by the 1960s. But still.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:56 AM (SvJcA)

208 185 Islam is not a religion. It's an invasive totalitarian system of society.

Take a trip around any muslim country and check out the bumper stickers. Do you know what you will never see? One of those retarded coexist stickers.

Name me another "religion" that demands it's adherents lie, cheat and murder anyone who doesn't submit to them. Muslims don't want to coexist, they want you to submit or die. It's right there in their manifesto.
Posted by: JackStraw
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It's a floor wax and an dessert!

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2026 11:56 AM (E4rtv)

209 I wonder if this crack down and/or end of EV subsides played a role in the end of Trump-Musk bromance. Of course, they seem to have patched that up, at least to certain extent. Musk gave up crazy train start third party notion and is giving tons of cash to Elephants.

Posted by: Martin Tell at September 21, 2026 11:56 AM (6yK+O)

210 198 That's a prudent policy in virtually any foreign country. My friends and I got dysentery from drinking water in a restaurant in Israel.

Bottled water only, from a well-established brand.

Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:54 AM (77rzZ)

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And turn the bottle upside down and give it a squeeze, just to make sure it hasn't been refilled post initial opening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:57 AM (SvJcA)

211 Corporations don't exist to supply you with a job.
Posted by: The Chamber of Commerce
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People don't exist to supply you with money.

Posted by: increasingly annoyed populace at September 21, 2026 11:58 AM (anL5R)

212 199 "...cow shit all over the place and monkeys swinging around."

So you've been to a MoMe?
Posted by: Oops at September 21, 2026 11:54 AM (2Ez/1)

I was going to say something about Oakland but that would probably have been racist or something.

Posted by: Pre-pre-pre denounced for your convenience at September 21, 2026 11:58 AM (TbWk/)

213 On average, people from the sub-continent are smarter than our home-grown workforce.
Posted by: Bert the Samoan Lawyer at September 21, 2026 11:53 AM (poJ35)
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Compiled global datasets often place India's average IQ between 76 and 87, ranking it between 89th and 143rd globally.

Meanwhile, international comparative studies, such as those by World Population Review, estimate the U.S. average IQ to be approximately 98.0 to 99.6, ranking the country around 29th to 31st globally.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 21, 2026 11:58 AM (GlLw/)

214 Winchester is nice. My son went to Pharmacy School there, but it's still under the thumb of CIA Barbie. I live 10 miles from the VA border, but NEVER go there unless it's an emergency.
Posted by: Red States Are Far Superior

We've also looked in W. Virginia, but, as I said, we don't want to be too far from medical facilities., and my wife got a little "too rural" vibe from WV. But, we'll see.

Posted by: Bulg at September 21, 2026 11:58 AM (77rzZ)

215 Compiled global datasets often place India's average IQ between 76 and 87, ranking it between 89th and 143rd globally.

Now do the Middle East

Posted by: And sub-Saharan Africa at September 21, 2026 12:00 PM (TbWk/)

216
The people who sneer that Americans are uncultured will also insist we have a lot to learn from Somalian culture.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2026 12:01 PM (eRlcH)

217 That's a prudent policy in virtually any foreign country.

Even within a country as large as the United States, it’s a prudent policy. For man years now, when traveling to a new place, I drink bottled water for at least several days until my body has had a chance to encounter the local microflora in small quantities, before tapering off bottled water use in favor of tap water.

It seems to have helped, a lot.

It would probably be less necessary if I were walking from, say, Texas to St. Augustine, because it would take longer. But flying or even driving across country means a very new environment very quickly.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 21, 2026 12:01 PM (kYmoU)

218 And yet, Ethiopian food can be really good.

Posted by: Go figure at September 21, 2026 12:02 PM (2Ez/1)

219 we have a lot to learn from Somalian culture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Such as "Why you should not allow certain people to immigrate to your more advanced country."

Posted by: NR Pax at September 21, 2026 12:02 PM (svLOV)

220 Because they'd earn the company 10X, 50X or one hundred times that fee.

Instead, they all--to a man--howled and filed suit when Trump proposed a measly, mere $100,000 fee.

And that right there betrays the sole and only motivation for US corporations to hire H1B.
Disgusting.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

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This is a good point.
- the purpose of a company in usa is to make money, but the country has an interest that they do it using americans.
- they all track revenue per employee. usually mid 6 figures.
- OK, they claim to need foreigners for their skills and there is shortage. well then the fee for hiring them is now the revenue per employee - their salary. Make it break even for the company. they get the skills they claim to need. If they really did need them, they would be glad to pay. so make the fee fit the industry -- for software, something like 200k per year (yes, every year of employment in perpetuity even if they become a citizen) should cover it.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at September 21, 2026 12:02 PM (LfiSD)

221 And yet, Ethiopian food can be really good.

Posted by: Go figure


...if you can get it.

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 21, 2026 12:03 PM (OUMaO)

222 A dollop of xenophobia is not necessarily a bad thing.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 12:03 PM (Gqar8)

223 222 A dollop of xenophobia is not necessarily a bad thing.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 12:03 PM (Gqar

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People are tribal.

If you weed tribalism out of you and then invite in a tribal people, your anti-tribalism ends up being in service of a group of people who don't think of you as part of their tribe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:04 PM (SvJcA)

224 70 percent of H1Bs are Indian

that should NOT be happening

no freaking way

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 21, 2026 12:05 PM (j+aD2)

225 > A dollop of xenophobia is not necessarily a bad thing.

First, get a stick of butter...

Posted by: Paula Deen at September 21, 2026 12:05 PM (2Ez/1)

226 This guy has been digging:

https://tinyurl.com/5e9fyhrz

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2026 11:16 AM (rOKnE)


Wow, Lizzy. This is shocking.

If these were Russians we'd probably be preparing to go to war.
==
Au contraire - you will elect us to be your rulers. Thank you very much!

Posted by: Rho Khanna at September 21, 2026 12:05 PM (anL5R)

227 The whole "we need foreigners 'cause not enough Americans with skills" is actually a self-fulfilling prophecy. Enough folks graduate from those fields and can't get work because of the H-1Bs, kids stop going into those fields and learning those skills, focusing on...well anything else that will possibly get them a paycheck...

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 21, 2026 12:06 PM (OUMaO)

228 We've also looked in W. Virginia, but, as I said, we don't want to be too far from medical facilities., and my wife got a little "too rural" vibe from WV. But, we'll see.
Posted by: Bulg

We got us some fine doctorin' and hospitals here in NC. And it's 546 miles from Manteo to Murphy with all types of terrain in between. From beach and maritime forest to the highest peak east of the Rockies.

Posted by: The Old North State at September 21, 2026 12:06 PM (Fn+3X)

229
227 The whole "we need foreigners 'cause not enough Americans with skills" is actually a self-fulfilling prophecy. Enough folks graduate from those fields and can't get work because of the H-1Bs, kids stop going into those fields and learning those skills, focusing on...well anything else that will possibly get them a paycheck...

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 21, 2026 12:06 PM (OUMaO)

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Recent computer science college grads have something like 25% unemployment rates.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:06 PM (SvJcA)

230 We got us some fine doctorin' and hospitals here in NC. And it's 546 miles from Manteo to Murphy with all types of terrain in between. From beach and maritime forest to the highest peak east of the Rockies.


they really do!

western NC is a great option

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 21, 2026 12:06 PM (j+aD2)

231 And yet, Ethiopian food can be really good.
==
Hunger is a most effective condiment.

Posted by: Chef Ethiopi at September 21, 2026 12:07 PM (anL5R)

232 On average, people from the sub-continent are smarter than our home-grown workforce."

Ok, that's funny right there

Posted by: man at September 21, 2026 12:07 PM (pfXMo)

233 Many, of not most, H1B hirings are illegal, if I’m reading the laws right. If the hiring process followed the actual law involved, they would end up finding an American qualified and willing to take the job.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 21, 2026 11:55 AM (kYmoU)
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Browse any big job site/board long enough, especially in the tech sector, and you'll run across several very obvious "H1B bait" listings for "jobs" that nobody on planet earth is qualified for. Example, a regular-ass software dev or product job, where the listed prerequisites include 20+ years of experience and a Ph.D. in computer science or some other complete fucking nonsense for a job that pays 90-100k.

Then the employer leaves that listing up for whatever time period is needed and because the requirements are stupid for the money offered and they get no "qualified" applicants, they say "oh golly gee willickers I guess we need to import Pajeet from East Bumfuck and pay him $.50 on the dollar to do this job because gosh there are just no qualified Americans!"

Completely transparent horse shit from the jump.

Posted by: ballistic at September 21, 2026 12:07 PM (oqH4h)

234 Recent computer science college grads have something like 25% unemployment rates.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films


And it's been going on for a couple of decades, long enough for the vicious cycle to get proper spun up.

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 21, 2026 12:07 PM (OUMaO)

235 223

People are tribal.

If you weed tribalism out of you and then invite in a tribal people, your anti-tribalism ends up being in service of a group of people who don't think of you as part of their tribe.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:04 PM (SvJcA)

Intersting that everyone is lauded for being tribal, encouraged, except for a certain demographic, or two. It is almost as if there an agenda being enacted.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 12:08 PM (Gqar8)

236 232 On average, people from the sub-continent are smarter than our home-grown workforce."


it's insanity

sigh

well people are finally waking up to it, they deal with these geniuses and wow

I miss Mexicans!

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 21, 2026 12:08 PM (j+aD2)

237 A dollop of xenophobia is not necessarily a bad thing.
Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 12:03 PM


Of course it is. The bastard was always shooting arrows at people.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2026 12:08 PM (bFu5X)

238 One of the tricks they pull is that they advertise jobs somewhere where nobody will see it, then they claim they have to hire a foreigner because there are no Americans to do the job.

Posted by: MrExcitement at September 21, 2026 12:08 PM (ovdkm)

239 218 And yet, Ethiopian food can be really good.
Posted by: Go figure

Preach it, Pal!

Posted by: Haile Selassie, Lion of Judah, Elect of God, King of Kings of Ethiopia at September 21, 2026 12:09 PM (Fn+3X)

240 your anti-tribalism ends up being in service of a group of people who don't think of you as part of their tribe."

In addition, said tribal members then definitely look down at others...

Posted by: man at September 21, 2026 12:09 PM (pfXMo)

241 But I was told by doomer black pillers that POTUS Trump was doing nothing or encouraging H1B importation.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 21, 2026 12:09 PM (xvV+O)

242 western NC is a great option
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 21, 2026 12:06 PM (j+aD2)
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As long as you keep in mind that you need to stay as far away from Asheville as is practically possible.

We talk of the smell of curry in this thread, but patchouli also sticks around...

Posted by: ballistic at September 21, 2026 12:09 PM (oqH4h)

243 237 A dollop of xenophobia is not necessarily a bad thing.
Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 12:03 PM

Of course it is. The bastard was always shooting arrows at people.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2026 12:08 PM (bFu5X)

Heh. Wll done.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 12:09 PM (Gqar8)

244 238 One of the tricks they pull is that they advertise jobs somewhere where nobody will see it, then they claim they have to hire a foreigner because there are no Americans to do the job.

Posted by: MrExcitement at September 21, 2026 12:08 PM (ovdkm)

=======

I read about one where there was a single ad on AM radio.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:09 PM (SvJcA)

245 241 But I was told by doomer black pillers that POTUS Trump was doing nothing or encouraging H1B importation.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 21, 2026 12:09 PM (xvV+O)

========

Well, I did see that Bangladeshi man at my Costco this weekend...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:10 PM (SvJcA)

246 245 241 But I was told by doomer black pillers that POTUS Trump was doing nothing or encouraging H1B importation.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 21, 2026 12:09 PM (xvV+O)

========

Well, I did see that Bangladeshi man at my Costco this weekend...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:10 PM (SvJcA)

Was his hair perfect?

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 12:10 PM (Gqar8)

247 But I was told by doomer black pillers that POTUS Trump was doing nothing or encouraging H1B importation.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 21, 2026 12:09 PM (xvV+O)


Vance would stop him. He has a brown wife, you know. -- Doomers United

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2026 12:10 PM (ExV1e)

248 I'm happy with this move but the admin needs to cut the OPT and other visa programs they have the power to end

just end them

H1B they can't just get rid of, so I'm good with stuff like this

but the "wifey gets job" one has to GO

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 21, 2026 12:10 PM (j+aD2)

249 246 Well, I did see that Bangladeshi man at my Costco this weekend...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:10 PM (SvJcA)

Was his hair perfect?

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 12:10 PM (Gqar

=========

Completely untustled by Marines roving the streets.

nothing is happening!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:11 PM (SvJcA)

250 Oh, look, Congress not doing anything but avoiding passing anything helpful again.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 21, 2026 12:11 PM (HeG1i)

251 You've been Boeberted!

https://tinyurl.com/ydfvvjs7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Where's My Cookie? at September 21, 2026 12:11 PM (ndZc7)

252 I read about one where there was a single ad on AM radio.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:09 PM


I hear ads like that a couple of time per year.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2026 12:11 PM (bFu5X)

253 248 I'm happy with this move but the admin needs to cut the OPT and other visa programs they have the power to end

just end them

H1B they can't just get rid of, so I'm good with stuff like this

but the "wifey gets job" one has to GO

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at September 21, 2026 12:10 PM (j+aD2)

========

There are investigations into OPT fraud which will form the underlying basis for ending the program.

Trump 2.0 doesn't want to repeat the mistakes of Trump 1.0 when they just tried to end DACA without following APA procedures. Are APA procedures even constitutional? I don't know, but that's not the fight the Trump administration seems to want to have.

Instead, they follow APA to get immigration wins.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:12 PM (SvJcA)

254 When I went to my daughter's graduation from engineering school, it was like going through a wormhole, and finding yourself in India.

Posted by: MrExcitement at September 21, 2026 12:12 PM (ovdkm)

255 Most immigrants vote Democrat. The Left hate America so immigrants join the Democrats.

At least European communism provided some American loving immigrants.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 12:12 PM (KC5Lt)

256 Where's Mitch?

Posted by: Mildly curious at September 21, 2026 12:13 PM (2Ez/1)

257 250 Oh, look, Congress not doing anything but avoiding passing anything helpful again.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 21, 2026 12:11 PM (HeG1i)

========

"Fuck you."
-Mitch, Cornyn, Ernst, Cassidy, and Tillis, no longer needing to face the voters

"Yeah, what they said."
-Murkowski, Democrat

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 12:13 PM (SvJcA)

258 Perverse incentives - you tell the chief executive that his compensation is tied to profit, and the short term grifters will tank the company to save money on expenses in the short run, so they can get paid millions, then scamper off when the jig is up. Tale as old as time. The shit birds rise to the top in big orgs because the org is big, they can burn people on the way up and not pay the price since they can move away from local damage caused and reprisals.

Posted by: big is not better at September 21, 2026 12:13 PM (anL5R)

259
> A dollop of xenophobia is not necessarily a bad thing.

Are you afraid of Xena the warrior princess?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2026 12:14 PM (Cqx++)

260 Ethiopia is the only country in the world with a 13 month calendar.

Posted by: Doin' Time at September 21, 2026 12:14 PM (Fn+3X)

261 My tribe is made up of conservatives and not ethnicity.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 12:14 PM (KC5Lt)

262 259
> A dollop of xenophobia is not necessarily a bad thing.

Are you afraid of Xena the warrior princess?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2026 12:14 PM (Cqx++)

A bit. Actually preferred her beta sidekick girl.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 12:14 PM (Gqar8)

263 Nood. Germany.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2026 12:15 PM (ExV1e)

264 Nood. Germans.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2026 12:15 PM (bFu5X)

265 Where's Mitch?
----

Sitting in the passenger seat--don't worry the air conditioning is running and he's listening to his favorite music.

Posted by: Crusader at September 21, 2026 12:15 PM (TN0g+)

266 261 My tribe is made up of conservatives and not ethnicity.
Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2026 12:14 PM (KC5Lt)

Mine is of a certain religious persuasion, which is no bueno to much of America.

Posted by: tubal at September 21, 2026 12:16 PM (Gqar8)

267 I remember a little girl coming up to our cab with her little brother in her arms, distended belly, begging for money.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 21, 2026 11:46 AM (SvJcA)

In India, people will break infants' bones and leave them to heal at crazy angles so that they can earn their handlers a living through begging.

Posted by: Polka will never die at September 21, 2026 12:16 PM (pSaNK)

268 In the Dallas area, American Airlines is doing something similar. Had a friend get laid off who said that she knew that they were bringing in foreign ppl.

Posted by: Army Mom at September 21, 2026 01:02 PM (7MHQz)

269 I was in IT for 40+ years. I had to "knowledge transfer" my job to H1-B visa holders or people living and working remotely from India several times. I would probably still be working now except for a combination of ageism, DEI discrimination, and H1-B abuse. Thankfully, I have enough retirement saved that I don't need to work any longer. But, kids keep asking my advice about getting into IT and I have to tell them that right now they are way better off learning a trade like HVAC or welding.

Posted by: Ron Winkleheimer at September 21, 2026 01:56 PM (K6mfb)

270 .
.
1990 ... The year that I went to the San Antonio Immigration and Naturalization Service office to describe the H1-B scam being pulled by AMD. During a week when AMD employees were being laid off, AMD was bringing in contractors, (mainly H1-B new grads,) to reverse engineer the Intel 486. Oh the good ol' daze.
.
The INS could not have cared less. The dot-Indian and Chinganese H1-Bs were not beaners.

Posted by: Marooned at September 21, 2026 02:20 PM (W2rvL)

271 Microsoft's then 4/2/2014 CEO, Satye Nadella (East Indian) layed off 18,000 employees starting in 7/17/2014 and sought H-1B Visas for foreign workings on 7/28/2014. This was publicly stated (public company) but not significant to report by the MSM. That was 18k employees and their families laid off and replaced with (can you guess? Mostly East Indians) at a much lower wage while being subsidized by the U.S. government. This is a typical management financial tactic to move the financial burden as much as possible to a different organization not on the manager's books.
East Indians are notorious for exploiting other Indians not in their family/tribe. After all, they are a proud cast system.

Posted by: John at September 21, 2026 02:46 PM (9NUKl)

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