THE MORNING RANT: Big Four Accounting Firm Settles with DOJ for $21 Million Due to Racist, DEI Hiring Practices

As a reminder of just how deep the woke virus seeped into corporate America, even the conservative world of public accounting is infected. It was just last week that I wrote about red state Attorney Generals notifying the Big Four accounting firms that they may be flirting with criminal behavior by pursuing climate and ESG goals at the expense of their clients. The AGs’ letter specifically stated that the accounting firms may be engaged in “deceptive and unfair acts and practices” because of their climate and social justice agenda.

Now comes news that one of those four firms has just agreed to pay a $21 million fine as a result of its racially discriminatory hiring practices.

“Deloitte agrees to pay $21.5 million to settle DOJ probe into DEI practices” [Fox Business – 08/25/2026]

Accounting firm Deloitte agreed to pay $21.5 million to settle Department of Justice allegations that it violated the False Claims Act by failing to comply with anti-discrimination requirements in federal contracts and discriminating on the basis of race or sex, the department announced Tuesday.

As a federal contractor, Deloitte is not allowed to engage in hiring practices that prioritize candidates based on their sex or the color of their skin. Perhaps because Deloitte thought it was engaging in the “good” kind of racist hiring, it must have thought the government would smile on its vulgar actions. In fact, the Obama/Biden administrations certainly did favor such discrimination. However, racial discrimination in the name of DEI is not tolerated under the Trump administration’s Department of Justice.

Deloitte had little choice but to settle, because its proven actions were explicitly racist and well documented. Per the DOJ, Deloitte assigned its leaders goals for required racial demographics, and if too many white men were hired, there were negative consequences for partners, principals, and managing directors. Monthly tracking reports were distributed documenting how successful the various units were in denying jobs and promotions to white men.

Newly sworn-in Attorney general Todd Blanche stated about Deloitte’s institutional racism ”Government contractors cannot reward or penalize employees based on race or sex — and labeling the practice DEI does not make it lawful. The Justice Department will aggressively pursue government contractors that have used taxpayer dollars to fund unlawful discrimination."

Deloitte’s left-wing CEO, Jason Girzadas, is a huge fan of DEI. At his now-deleted Twitter account (@jgirzadas), Mr. Girzadas stated that “#DEI is a pillar of focus at @Deloitte, as we work to find new initiatives that drive purpose and impact.” Apparently one of those “new initiatives” was setting formal goals for discriminating against white men, and instituting corporate protocols to punish those who failed to discriminate accordingly.

Mr. Girzadas has not been fired, despite his racist leadership costing the accounting firm millions in fines. Even more damaging may be the reputational damage to Deloitte. I would never recommend hiring Deloitte so long as the leadership that enforced racial quotas remains in place.

You’ll not be surprised to learn that according to his Deloitte biography Mr. Girzadas is on the Board of Directors of the US Chamber of Commerce and is also a member of the Wall Street Journal CEO Council. Both are formerly respectable business organizations now captured by the left, and pushing the left’s agenda.

What is most despicable about people like Jason Girzadas is that he has reached the pinnacle of success, and is likely earning more than $10 million per year, yet his white-guilt has him boasting about shutting the door of opportunity to young men who might want to try to follow his path. He is living large while feeling smug about denying job opportunities to young accountants seeking their first job.

Related to all this I have a few other thoughts:

• The “Accountant Shortage”: There is a well documented shortage of new CPAs and accounting graduates. Can you imagine how awful it would be if you were in charge of hiring at Deloitte when there is a shortage of potential accounting hires, yet you’ll get punished if you hire a qualified white man?

• Why would a young man want to pursue a degree in accounting when the Big Four seek to avoid hiring you based on your race?

• This is yet another example of why young men are understandably disaffected. The Great Awokening mainstreamed the hatred of white men. Those of us already engaged in our careers hunkered down and lay low in our corporate jobs, but young men were told they could not participate in corporate America at all.

• We can hate on podcast bros, but while academia and corporate America was making clear their antagonism toward white men, the podcast bros welcomed them.

• HR is not to blame for corporate wokeness. Truth be told, many (most?) corporations have now outsourced most HR functions to subcontractors primarily staffed with screen-readers in India. The blame for corporate wokeness lies squarely on senior executives in the C-Suites. They are crusading true believers in DEI, ESG, and the climate hoax. They need to be replaced.

It is heartening that the Trump administration is aggressively targeting the criminal DEI and ESG policies of corporate America.

It is disheartening that Deloitte is just going to pay a fine without any further consequences for its leadership. I am ready to see some corporate executives receive the Enron treatment for their unlawful actions in support of the woke agenda.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 HR departments, man.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 04, 2026 11:01 AM (Y/06r)

2 Hot day

Posted by: doug at September 04, 2026 11:01 AM (B1+sW)

3 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at September 04, 2026 11:01 AM (NcvvS)

4 It should be noted that this is the maximum fine allowable by the statute.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 04, 2026 11:01 AM (qE8uT)

5 Until firings happen, this is only a pause in hostilities.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 04, 2026 11:01 AM (99eI0)

6 top 10

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at September 04, 2026 11:02 AM (nXhwP)

7 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:02 AM (ccf/V)

8 I thought it was after 11 and coworkers didn't scream its lunch yet..

Posted by: Skip at September 04, 2026 11:02 AM (pCEV4)

9 I always want to call them "Teloitte and Douche."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:02 AM (ccf/V)

10 CPA: Born To Be Mild!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 04, 2026 11:04 AM (ndZc7)

11 I wonder what the minority percentage is for actuaries? I hear that exam is a real bitch.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 04, 2026 11:05 AM (XvL8K)

12 Good.

Now discontinue contracts where non-American employees in these companies (and others) are working on federal business, particularly havong to do with national security.

No American citizen data should be routed through/worked on by foreigners in, say, Mumbai.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 04, 2026 11:06 AM (rOKnE)

13 fire more of them. maybe jail the ceo's for govt fraud? or is it time for the govt to break up the big four?

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at September 04, 2026 11:06 AM (nXhwP)

14 Now let them proceed with pharmaceutical companies with huge government contracts, especially for the Veterans Administration

Posted by: L - No nic... at September 04, 2026 11:06 AM (uh/0S)

15 Now do The SCOTUS!

Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:06 AM (IJ/6M)

16 >>I wonder what the minority percentage is for actuaries? I hear that exam is a real bitch.

IIRC, it has become less stringent (as with air traffic control exams) in response to DEI.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 04, 2026 11:07 AM (rOKnE)

17 That Jason CEO guy has a very punchable face in his bio pic

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:08 AM (n7Rsm)

18 Related to all this I have a few other thoughts:

As do I. Universities are probably the worst holdouts with regard to illegal DEI practices. They think they're being very clever when they change the name but retain the policy. We should have a system for punishing this behavior.

1) On the first offense, they lose eligibility for any federal dollars, be they scholarships, loans, for five years.
2) On the second offense, they are closed down permanently, and the people implementing it go to jail.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:08 AM (Riz8t)

19 Now do The SCOTUS!
Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:06 AM (IJ/6M)

Is that a new dance? Is it anything like The Electric Slide?

I hate it. I hate all line dances. I liked the song, but hate that it spawned the f*cking line dance.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:08 AM (ccf/V)

20 I wonder what the minority percentage is for actuaries? I hear that exam is a real bitch.

Do you actually need to understand statistics to be an actuary or does having access to an AI suffice now?

Posted by: Oddbob at September 04, 2026 11:08 AM (vTZFs)

21 Hollyweird hardest hit ...

Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:09 AM (IJ/6M)

22 IIRC, it has become less stringent (as with air traffic control exams) in response to DEI.

Well it sure as hell didn't become MORE stringent.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:09 AM (Riz8t)

23 Until firings happen, this is only a pause in hostilities.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 04, 2026 11:01 AM (99eI0)

Most CO's that made the call for either DIE or homo celebrations are still in their highly paid positions.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:09 AM (ccf/V)

24 Why would a young man want to pursue a degree in accounting when the Big Four seek to avoid hiring you based on your race?

My son is an accountant at a small firm. He claimed that Deloitte tried to hire him away, but he didn't want to go there.

Posted by: Bulg at September 04, 2026 11:09 AM (77rzZ)

25 I hate it. I hate all line dances. I liked the song, but hate that it spawned the f*cking line dance.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:08 AM (ccf/V)

*sobs*

Posted by: Cotton-Eye Joe at September 04, 2026 11:09 AM (SgdqL)

26 >>As do I. Universities are probably the worst holdouts with regard to illegal DEI practices. They think they're being very clever when they change the name but retain the policy. We should have a system for punishing this behavior.

Cutting most federal funding of universities would do wonders to their administrative staff, which they could not longer afford.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 04, 2026 11:10 AM (rOKnE)

27 The instituted policy will be discarded but the practice will remain in the same vein as age discrimination is practiced today.

Posted by: Halfhand at September 04, 2026 11:10 AM (H5wte)

28 The crossed arms power pose is extremely annoying

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:10 AM (n7Rsm)

29 These cretins are oblivious to the final outcome of destroying the principle of judging by the content of one's character. If the principle is a colorblind society then each individual will succeed or fail by their own merits. If the principle is membership in a tribe then the colorblind society goes by the wayside. Whites will recognize how others have organized by tribe and will follow through with the only rational position for themselves.

Racists cannot protest against racism.

Posted by: Minuteman at September 04, 2026 11:10 AM (47/pr)

30 Artificial Intelligence isn't very intelligent.

I wouldn't rely on it for a whole lot.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:10 AM (ccf/V)

31 I hate it. I hate all line dances. I liked the song, but hate that it spawned the f*cking line dance.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

The Witchita Lineman is still on the line.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 04, 2026 11:10 AM (ndZc7)

32 Did Deloitte lose their sweet government contract(s)?

Because that would sting... a lot.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 04, 2026 11:10 AM (2Cry5)

33
My son is an accountant at a small firm. He claimed that Deloitte tried to hire him away, but he didn't want to go there.
Posted by: Bulg at September 04, 2026 11:09 AM (77rzZ)

Seems like he made the correct choice.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:11 AM (ccf/V)

34 Not to make excuses for the big consulting companies, but much of their work is with the government, and they know exactly what the government wanted to see. They were responding to the situation as it was. The situation has changed, but they apparently still haven't.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:11 AM (Riz8t)

35 I was worried for my son's ability to get a job out of college with his engineering degree. Thankfully he quickly found a good job at a local plant that is shipping tons of product and need plenty of engineers to keep the lines moving. So much so that they're happy to grab up the available local talent rather than waste time and effort searching the country for the rare minority or female candidates, or worse, overseas.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 04, 2026 11:12 AM (Dv3i1)

36 I hate it. I hate all line dances. I liked the song, but hate that it spawned the f*cking line dance.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Discrimination and Speciesist!

Posted by: Chicken Dance Fever! at September 04, 2026 11:12 AM (Fn+3X)

37 Seems like he made the correct choice.
Posted by: Sponge

Yep. He likes where he is now, and they seem to like him as well.

Now he just needs to finish the CPA exam.

Posted by: Bulg at September 04, 2026 11:12 AM (77rzZ)

38 HR departments, man.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 04, 2026 11:01 AM (Y/06r)
==
Bad HR departments.

And bad government policy.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 04, 2026 11:12 AM (7/DDO)

39 So Brave AI says 3.5% black and hispanic actuaries, amd 18% asian.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 04, 2026 11:13 AM (XvL8K)

40 Cutting most federal funding of universities would do wonders to their administrative staff, which they could not longer afford.
Posted by: Lizzy

Putting the schools on the hook for the loans would also gut the admin staff. Not literally but it's an intriguing thought.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 04, 2026 11:13 AM (99eI0)

41 Is that a new dance? Is it anything like The Electric Slide?

I hate it. I hate all line dances. I liked the song, but hate that it spawned the f*cking line dance.
____

I must say, I do like the "Wobble".

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 04, 2026 11:13 AM (Dv3i1)

42 o Brave AI says 3.5% black and hispanic actuaries, amd 18% asian.

I'll bet it's heavily Joo-ish. You know, because those guys like money so much.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:14 AM (Riz8t)

43 40 Cutting most federal funding of universities would do wonders to their administrative staff, which they could not longer afford.
Posted by: Lizzy

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https://x.com/rebekazeljko/status/
2095314801832476829

"@rebekazeljko
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Sep 2
SCOOP: The Treasury Department and the IRS are expected to roll out a new reg to end federal tax-exempt status for private schools that discriminate on the basis of race, the Daily Caller learned.

This would apply to schools found to have discriminated in admissions, athletics, scholarships, loans, educational policies, etc.

One official estimated this could affect as many as 18,000 private schools. "

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 04, 2026 11:14 AM (qE8uT)

44
Fines should be much higher. should be painful, not pocket change for these guys.

Civil rights violations? Then, yes. Jail time may be in order.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 04, 2026 11:15 AM (iJfKG)

45
This would apply to schools found to have discriminated in admissions, athletics, scholarships, loans, educational policies, etc.

One official estimated this could affect as many as 18,000 private schools. "
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 04, 2026 11:14 AM (qE8uT)

When do they start to focus on churches and 501 C 3's?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:15 AM (ccf/V)

46 One official estimated this could affect as many as 18,000 private schools.
_____

Leaving only about 2 or 3 that didn't discriminate.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 04, 2026 11:15 AM (Dv3i1)

47 I'll bet it's heavily Joo-ish. You know, because those guys like money so much.
Posted by: Archimedes

If liking money is the sole criterion for being Jewish, I guess I'm one, too.

Where's my yarmulke?

Posted by: Bulg at September 04, 2026 11:15 AM (77rzZ)

48 44
Fines should be much higher. should be painful, not pocket change for these guys.

Civil rights violations? Then, yes. Jail time may be in order.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 04, 2026 11:15 AM (iJfKG)

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The limits on the fines are outlined in the statutes that make these things illegal. Need to change the law for higher fines.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 04, 2026 11:15 AM (qE8uT)

49
Oh...look!

Muh 'Horns are playing Ohio State next weekend.

Should be fun.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 04, 2026 11:16 AM (iJfKG)

50 Now he just needs to finish the CPA exam.
Posted by: Bulg at September 04, 2026 11:12 AM (77rzZ)

Godspeed to him, then.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:16 AM (ccf/V)

51 It is disheartening that Deloitte is just going to pay a fine without any further consequences for its leadership.

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Additional training has been implemented.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 04, 2026 11:16 AM (4Je4D)

52 I'll bet it's heavily Joo-ish. You know, because those guys like money so much.
Posted by: Archimedes

If liking money is the sole criterion for being Jewish, I guess I'm one, too.

Where's my yarmulke?

Imagine my surprise when I found that I, too, was Hebraic.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:16 AM (Riz8t)

53 BURN THEM!!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 04, 2026 11:16 AM (g8Ew8)

54
Muh 'Horns are playing Ohio State next weekend.

Should be fun.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 04, 2026 11:16 AM (iJfKG)

Hopefully it's better than that shitshow last year......

But, I hate both teams so I cheer for them both to lose.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:17 AM (ccf/V)

55 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:16 AM (ccf/V)

Thank you, Sponge.

Posted by: Bulg at September 04, 2026 11:17 AM (77rzZ)

56 Thx Buck.
DEI has been a mess for every industry wherein it's been tried.
Companies started moving away from it because shareholders started threatening lawsuits because of decreased production and profitability caused by the DEI policy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 04, 2026 11:17 AM (M9Oed)

57
The limits on the fines are outlined in the statutes that make these things illegal. Need to change the law for higher fines.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 04, 2026 11:15 AM (qE8uT)

Thanks, for the info.

I've been educated.....dammit!

Posted by: naturalfake at September 04, 2026 11:18 AM (iJfKG)

58 Hook 'em, Horns!

Posted by: Bulg at September 04, 2026 11:18 AM (77rzZ)

59 In my experience, 90% of actuaries are East Asian.

Posted by: runner at September 04, 2026 11:18 AM (g47mK)

60 My client, Daejon Love, was suffering from pre-NFL depressive whackitis when all those women defrauded him and then convinced him to say he stole it from them.

If you're a man, you have to believe this, because of your mantuition. Women can't understand this because they are all Geminis.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice, Attorney-at-Fraud at September 04, 2026 11:19 AM (BI5O2)

61 It is disheartening that Deloitte is just going to pay a fine without any further consequences for its leadership.

The money isn't the real damage. It's the reputational hit that will cost them the most.

Even more damaging may be the reputational damage to Deloitte. I would never recommend hiring Deloitte so long as the leadership that enforced racial quotas remains in place.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:19 AM (Riz8t)

62 I'm saying I hate things a lot, suddenly.

Hate is a strong word. I passionately dislike all the things I've hated today........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:19 AM (ccf/V)

63 And they are good too!

Posted by: runner at September 04, 2026 11:19 AM (g47mK)

64 Deloitte’s global revenue for 2026 is not officially reported yet, but it is expected to exceed $73 billion based on recent growth trends. Deloitte reported $70.5 billion in global revenue for FY2025.

This is their budget for the holiday party.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 04, 2026 11:20 AM (wGerL)

65 Between Derek Chauvin and this murdering Clancy bitch, trial by jury is dead, and the Mob killed it.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 04, 2026 11:20 AM (jl6TJ)

66 Oh, the anti-ads write themselves sometimes...

"Deloitte? Absolutely not!"

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 04, 2026 11:20 AM (OUMaO)

67 DEI has been a mess for every industry wherein it's been tried.
Companies started moving away from it because shareholders started threatening lawsuits because of decreased production and profitability caused by the DEI policy

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So not true. Kathleen Kennedy built Lucasfilm into a Hollywood powerhouse by staffing it entirely with unqualified DEI hires.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 04, 2026 11:20 AM (4Je4D)

68 Muh 'Horns are playing Ohio State next weekend.

Should be fun.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 04, 2026 11:16 AM (iJfKG)

Eh. Minor-League Pro Ball.

Now the Mid-American Conference games are starting, so it's time for the MAC-Attack! Go, Redhawks!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 04, 2026 11:20 AM (SgdqL)

69 Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 04, 2026 11:20 AM (jl6TJ)

Haven't seen you around much. Where you been?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:21 AM (ccf/V)

70 Now do The SCOTUS!
Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:06 AM (IJ/6M)

Is that a new dance? Is it anything like The Electric Slide?

I hate it. I hate all line dances. I liked the song, but hate that it spawned the f*cking line dance.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:08 AM (ccf/V)

it's more like the HUSTLE....

-_-

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at September 04, 2026 11:21 AM (nXhwP)

71 Between Derek Chauvin and this murdering Clancy bitch, trial by jury is dead, and the Mob killed it.

Posted by: ErikInTexas

They will, in time, find that the jury was all that stood between them and the original mob justice.

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 04, 2026 11:21 AM (OUMaO)

72 And they are good too!
Posted by: runner
_______

Are you in the insurance biz? Or where else do actuaries get used?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 04, 2026 11:22 AM (XvL8K)

73 Companies started moving away from it because shareholders started threatening lawsuits because of decreased production and profitability caused by the DEI policy

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So not true. Kathleen Kennedy built Lucasfilm into a Hollywood powerhouse by staffing it entirely with unqualified DEI hires.

I think it's largely true. Sure, there are the bitter enders who are still fighting to discriminate against straight, white males, but the air has clearly gone out of the balloon, and the smart ones saw the writing on the wall a while ago.

Kennedy is no longer at LucasFilm. Eventually reality intrudes.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:23 AM (Riz8t)

74 I know it's been asked and answered here many times by me and others (and doesn't really apply here because the Big Four Accounting firms are all private and non-public) -- and some of our attorneys have explained that it's a very difficult case to prove, but:

WHY IN THE HELL haven't shareholders of public companies engaging in all this DEI, ESG, et. al. bullshit filed class-action lawsuits against those C-Suite Officers for violating their sole fiduciary responsibility of MAXIMIZING PROFIT?

Ugh ... were I on such a jury, I'd certainly find for the shareholders.

Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:23 AM (IJ/6M)

75 I encountered Deloitte folks from time to time throughout my civilian career. I'd never hire them.
Their best employees are the ones that quit and either went to different firms, or started their own company.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 04, 2026 11:23 AM (2WIwB)

76 73 I think it's largely true. Sure, there are the bitter enders who are still fighting to discriminate against straight, white males, but the air has clearly gone out of the balloon, and the smart ones saw the writing on the wall a while ago.

Kennedy is no longer at LucasFilm. Eventually reality intrudes.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:23 AM (Riz8t)

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Woke 1 was crazy, man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 04, 2026 11:24 AM (qE8uT)

77 The NCAA, a private organization managing college athletics, was just told by a local Louisiana state judge that LSU and the dirtbag Lane Kiffin were allowed to recruit and sign players drafted by NFL teams, played and collected salaries from the NFL in the preseason, but were cut and didn't make the 53 man roster, if they still had college eligibility remaining.

WTF?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:24 AM (ccf/V)

78 Are you in the insurance biz? Or where else do actuaries get used?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 04, 2026 11:22 AM (XvL8K)

Dude, many industries use actuaries, Big 4 is one! Finance uses them too...

Posted by: runner at September 04, 2026 11:24 AM (g47mK)

79 I hate it. I hate all line dances. I liked the song, but hate that it spawned the f*cking line dance.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:08 AM

*glares at Sponge*

*crosses road*

*dances*

Posted by: The Chicken at September 04, 2026 11:25 AM (9Q+nP)

80 77. Even worse, the judge put something out there about not being able to punish LSU for disagreeing. That is a super powerful state judge.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 04, 2026 11:25 AM (wrEn7)

81 ncountered Deloitte folks from time to time throughout my civilian career. I'd never hire them.
Their best employees are the ones that quit and either went to different firms, or started their own company.

My daughter worked for Deloitte out of college for about 4 years. She left to go to law school.

It's the consultant's business model. They hire a boatload of kids fresh out of school, and work them til they drop (usually about 2-3 years), whereupon they leave. Partners make bank, while the others are decently paid, but not if you calculate an hourly rate.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:26 AM (Riz8t)

82 >>@BillMelugin_
·
14s
>>BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 04, 2026 11:26 AM (viF8m)

83 They are crusading true believers in DEI, ESG, and the climate hoax. "

They are crusaders in search of more taxpayer coin. We're $40 Trillion dollars in debt for a reason.

Posted by: man at September 04, 2026 11:26 AM (cGjQu)

84 77 The NCAA, a private organization managing college athletics, was just told by a local Louisiana state judge that LSU and the dirtbag Lane Kiffin were allowed to recruit and sign players drafted by NFL teams, played and collected salaries from the NFL in the preseason, but were cut and didn't make the 53 man roster, if they still had college eligibility remaining.

WTF?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:24 AM (ccf/V
Bread and circuses. Gladiators. Slaves.

Posted by: Eromero at September 04, 2026 11:27 AM (wFmdf)

85 the judge just declared a mistrial in the Clancy trial.

Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:27 AM (F3Dlr)

86 It's the consultant's business model. They hire a boatload of kids fresh out of school, and work them til they drop (usually about 2-3 years), whereupon they leave. Partners make bank, while the others are decently paid, but not if you calculate an hourly rate.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:26 AM (Riz8t)

Yeah, same deal as Big Law. (*shudders*)

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 04, 2026 11:27 AM (SgdqL)

87 Even worse, the judge put something out there about not being able to punish LSU for disagreeing. That is a super powerful state judge.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 04, 2026 11:25 AM (wrEn7)

And specified that this decision doesn't effect any other school and only LSU gets special privileges.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:27 AM (ccf/V)

88 Anytime I saw a contract with Deloitte come across my desk I knew it would be a useless waste. Worse than a waste it would be a positive drag on business. It would have been more productive to simply pile the purchase price in cash in the parking lot and set it on fire. At least we could have roasted some wennies.

Posted by: Martin Tell at September 04, 2026 11:27 AM (tSPGB)

89 Try getting any tech related position if you’re not Indian or Chinese. Not happening.

Only exception is sales. That’s mainly white men still.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 04, 2026 11:27 AM (RPumj)

90 >>BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.

Wow. I hope they retry the bitch. But they won't if it really was 11-1 NG. Lets see what happens. It's possible we have a hero.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:27 AM (3WsqO)

91 Dude, many industries use actuaries, Big 4 is one! Finance uses them too...
Posted by: runner
________

I did not know that. Thought the vast majority would be involved in setting premiums.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 04, 2026 11:27 AM (XvL8K)

92 Dude hung tough. Good for him.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 04, 2026 11:27 AM (viF8m)

93 The NCAA, a private organization managing college athletics, was just told by a local Louisiana state judge that LSU and the dirtbag Lane Kiffin were allowed to recruit and sign players drafted by NFL teams, played and collected salaries from the NFL in the preseason, but were cut and didn't make the 53 man roster, if they still had college eligibility remaining.

WTF?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:24 AM (ccf/V)

I’m all for more chaos. College football has been so thoroughly fucked up, the only hope is so much chaos that they decide to tear the whole thing down and start from scratch. Those bastards collectively ruined one of the truly enjoyable entertainments in my life…. May the NCAA die

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:28 AM (n7Rsm)

94 Woke 1 was crazy, man.

That statement by AOC just enrages me. People's lives were ruined by your nonsense. Vast oceans of taxpayer money were outright wasted or went to your corrupt buddies. Yet here you are, saying "trust me, I'd be a great president", while never taking ownership of your past colossal failures. It's not cute.

I wouldn't trust you to muck out my toilet.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

95 sole fiduciary responsibility of MAXIMIZING PROFIT?"

They are. Lick the hand of government, and you get coin without working... much. It's very profitable. Just check with GM...

Posted by: man at September 04, 2026 11:29 AM (cGjQu)

96 Now the Mid-American Conference games are starting, so it's time for the MAC-Attack! Go, Redhawks!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 04, 2026 11:20 AM (SgdqL)

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"Back-off, bitchez!!!"

-- The NCAA Division I FCS Defending National Champion Montana State Bobcats of The Big Sky Conference

Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:29 AM (IJ/6M)

97 Mistrial declared. Bet there won't be a new trial, but a plea bargain will be reached

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 04, 2026 11:29 AM (M9Oed)

98 14s
>>BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 04, 2026 11:26 AM (viF8m)

Move the next trial venue to OK, TX, or AR.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 04, 2026 11:29 AM (g8Ew8)

99 College football is just minor league football. Players go to the bigs and to the minors and back in baseball and hockey. Why not football?

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 04, 2026 11:29 AM (RPumj)

100 I encountered Deloitte folks from time to time throughout my civilian career. I'd never hire them.
Their best employees are the ones that quit and either went to different firms, or started their own company.

Posted by: Diogenes

Cut from the same cloth as McKinsey. Probably deserving of the same fate.

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 04, 2026 11:30 AM (OUMaO)

101 The NCAA, a private organization managing college athletics, was just told by a local Louisiana state judge that LSU and the dirtbag Lane Kiffin were allowed to recruit and sign players drafted by NFL teams, played and collected salaries from the NFL in the preseason, but were cut and didn't make the 53 man roster, if they still had college eligibility remaining.

WTF?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:24 AM (ccf/V)

ever since NIH, the college game has seriously been NFL minor leagues....

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at September 04, 2026 11:30 AM (nXhwP)

102 Buck-
It's a digression, but I wanted to bring this to your attention.

"Do Data Centers Raise your Electricity Bill? Evidence from U.S. States"

"we find no statistically significant evidence that data-center presence, installed capacity, or capacity expansion predicts residential electricity-price inflation"

https://tinyurl.com/5n84jh8u

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:30 AM (Riz8t)

103 So the judge gave Vincent Gambini, sorry, Jerry Callo, one hour to win the case.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 04, 2026 11:30 AM (qwx/I)

104 77 The NCAA, a private organization managing college athletics, was just told by a local Louisiana state judge that LSU and the dirtbag Lane Kiffin were allowed to recruit and sign players drafted by NFL teams, played and collected salaries from the NFL in the preseason, but were cut and didn't make the 53 man roster, if they still had college eligibility remaining.
-----------------------------------
Lane sure is making friends everywhere. Is he trying to get LSU sanctioned by the SEC? He must already have his next gig lined up. All though last year "Outkick the Coverage" was loving on this guy. While I hate the new Fox format, I wonder if the the new owners will put up with the insane Lane-love-fest.

Posted by: Martin Tell at September 04, 2026 11:31 AM (tSPGB)

105 Very curious to see what the State does next.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:31 AM (3WsqO)

106 The NCAA, a private organization managing college athletics, was just told by a local Louisiana state judge that LSU and the dirtbag Lane Kiffin were allowed to recruit and sign players drafted by NFL teams, played and collected salaries from the NFL in the preseason, but were cut and didn't make the 53 man roster, if they still had college eligibility remaining.

I kinda don't have a problem with this. NIL has ruined college athletics (along with universities going completely commie, but that is a separate discussion) so if a kid still has eligibility, let him try out for the team.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 04, 2026 11:31 AM (2WIwB)

107 >>BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 04, 2026 11:26 AM (viF8m)

Seems like the correct response for 11 of the 12....

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at September 04, 2026 11:31 AM (nXhwP)

108 BillMelugin_
·
14s
>>BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 04, 2026 11:26 AM (viF8m)

I'm going to send Juror #12 a statue of Henry Fonda. Just for the sake of irony. Good job, though. Stupid is easy. F##k the mob.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 04, 2026 11:31 AM (jl6TJ)

109 BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.
Posted by: JackStraw

Far from the worst possible outcome.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 04, 2026 11:32 AM (ndZc7)

110 Watching the Illinois-UAB game last night, basically two middling programs, a lot of the players they called out have transferred more than once. One guy was in his 6th year! Is he working on his doctorate?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 04, 2026 11:32 AM (qwx/I)

111 No American citizen data should be routed through/worked on by foreigners in, say, Mumbai.

I was ready to engage a regional accounting firm to do our taxes last year.

The engagement letter required I acknowledge and accept that their foreign (regional? Ha!) offices in Mumbai would have my data routed through them.

Nope. Nope and NOPE.

Got a local small tax preparer, which is becoming very difficult to find. I really object to having to upload and transfer my tax data via internet portals.

Whatever happened to the shoebox method?

Posted by: Derak at September 04, 2026 11:32 AM (TWu/H)

112 I kinda don't have a problem with this. NIL has ruined college athletics (along with universities going completely commie, but that is a separate discussion) so if a kid still has eligibility, let him try out for the team.

Agreed. I really don't care. It's just more corruption in a totally corrupt system.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:32 AM (Riz8t)

113 I did sub contracting with the big 4. It’s amazing how awful they are. And how much money they charge for the awfulness.

But execs hire them because as the old saying goes nobody gets fired for hiring IBM.

When things go sideways Deloitte is the scapegoat.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 04, 2026 11:32 AM (RPumj)

114 Oh, I see, now that the Big Ten is winning national championships, it's all corrupt (he said sarcastically).

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 04, 2026 11:34 AM (qwx/I)

115 Off for a nice walk. Later Horde

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 04, 2026 11:34 AM (M9Oed)

116 Posted by: Paul at September 04, 2026 11:33 AM (EJWxb)

=======

The left now masturbates to the idea that big business is awesome, but they also insist that all corporate media is right wing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 04, 2026 11:34 AM (qE8uT)

117 107 >>BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 04, 2026 11:26 AM (viF8m)

The defense lawyer seemed to know what the 11 were voting for... How is that possible ? If it was innocent how is another jury gonna find her guilty ? I bet they don't re-try and she "walks" after a short mental hospital stay.. very frustrating..

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:34 AM (+gK6I)

118 I love how “college” football players can barely string a sentence together. Why do we keep pretending it’s anything other than a minor league farm system for the nfl? Same for basketball and the nba.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 04, 2026 11:34 AM (RPumj)

119 Oh, I see, now that the Big Ten is winning national championships, it's all corrupt (he said sarcastically).
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

How many teams is the Big "Ten" up to now? Like 20?

Posted by: Bulg at September 04, 2026 11:34 AM (77rzZ)

120 It's as if millions of Pauls suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (Riz8t)

121 BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.
Posted by: JackStraw

Far from the worst possible outcome.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Putting the Genie Back In the Bible at September 04, 2026 11:32 AM

Yep this gives them another shot at convicting her. An acquittal verdict meant she would walk with no consequences.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (cpFbA)

122 BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.
Posted by: JackStraw

and then did he promptly agree to hold off filing the official verdict ...

Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (F3Dlr)

123 No American citizen data should be routed through/worked on by foreigners in, say, Mumbai.

I was ready to engage a regional accounting firm to do our taxes last year.

The engagement letter required I acknowledge and accept that their foreign (regional? Ha!) offices in Mumbai would have my data routed through them.

Nope. Nope and NOPE.

Got a local small tax preparer, which is becoming very difficult to find. I really object to having to upload and transfer my tax data via internet portals.

Whatever happened to the shoebox method?

Posted by: Derak

==

When I interviewed a CPA, he told me he was going to send them to India. And he was 2-3x more expensive than the local guy I hired to do them that does it in his own office.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (Kebsl)

124 May the NCAA die
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:28 AM (n7Rsm)

Will not argue.

The great Nick Saban is pissed off about the state of College Football and is actively campaigning for MASSIVE changes to happen.

the NCAA let this shit get WAY out of control and should be dismantled in an effort to correct it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (ccf/V)

125 Why isn’t the oft-repeated laudatory goal of “Diversity” truly one of inclusion? It’s really “Hate Whitey” is joined at the hip with all this vile rhetoric. Was that inevitable?

This was “sold” to America 40 or 50 years ago, initially at least, as “Affirmative Action” in hiring, that is in the case of equally qualified individuals an equal opportunity to be hired was the objective. Hire a racial minority when practicable. And it was applicable to descendants of American slaves.

Not just anybody just off the boat from outer east fucked-upistan. The entire thing has morphed into an ugly leftist created monster.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (zom6H)

126 Oh, I see, now that the Big Ten is winning national championships, it's all corrupt (he said sarcastically).
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 04, 2026 11:34 AM (qwx/I)

all i'm saying is, now that EVERYONE can pay players, the SEC suddenly isn't as dominant ....

-_-

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (nXhwP)

127 I bet they don't re-try and she "walks" after a short mental hospital stay.. very frustrating..

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:34 AM (+gK6I)

The prosecutor is pretty gung ho. I would not bet on that outcome.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (3WsqO)

128 The Big Ten got a tiny black eye last night with Rutgers losing at home to UMess… I mean UMass

Broke a 16 game UMass losing streak. They’ve been awful

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (n7Rsm)

129 @119 ... the number is too high for an SEC grad to count.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (qwx/I)

130 They are. Lick the hand of government, and you get coin without working... much. It's very profitable. Just check with GM...

Posted by: man at September 04, 2026 11:29 AM (cGjQu)

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Fair point. Crony Capitalism has morphed into a type of "Inverse Fascism:" a merger of state and corporate power where powerful private interests (corporations, oligarchs, etc.) systematically influence government policy to serve their own interests, effectively hollowing out any public accountability.

AKA "State Capture," "Corporate Authoritarianism," and/or "Kleptocratic Privatization."

Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:36 AM (IJ/6M)

131 >>Woke 1 was crazy, man.

That statement by AOC just enrages me. People's lives were ruined by your nonsense.

Businesses and other organization.
VDARE shut down last years. If their site is still up, the detailed descriptions of how they were harassed out of business is enraging. Same thing with GAB, the company and its founder's family were harassed every way possible for simply wanting to create an alternate to X.

Then there are people like Mike Adams, UNC professor and vocal conservative, who was harassed until he took his own life.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 04, 2026 11:36 AM (rOKnE)

132 I wonder if Paul's mom was acquitted

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:36 AM (3WsqO)

133 I await the moment an NCAA player switches teams at halftime.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 04, 2026 11:36 AM (4HoLg)

134 Talarico says if Jesus had a mother she would have been just like Lindsay Clancy.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:36 AM (3WsqO)

135 The Defense choked.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 11:37 AM (YrlsR)

136
The defense lawyer seemed to know what the 11 were voting for... How is that possible ? If it was innocent how is another jury gonna find her guilty ? I bet they don't re-try and she "walks" after a short mental hospital stay.. very frustrating..
Posted by: It's me donna

==

I believe she gets tried again and a plea deal is struck.

They got a ringer jury is the problem.

I dont think any prosecutor can walk away from someone strangling 3 kids to death.

As loud as these people are, I have to believe a lopsides amount of people would be outraged with literally no charges filed and she walks away from this with this.

But I'm no lawyer.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 04, 2026 11:37 AM (Kebsl)

137 The Big Ten got a tiny black eye last night with Rutgers losing at home to UMess… I mean UMass

Broke a 16 game UMass losing streak. They’ve been awful
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (n7Rsm)

yeah, but it's rutgers. i'm not sure they officially count as bigten...

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at September 04, 2026 11:38 AM (nXhwP)

138 118 I love how “college” football players can barely string a sentence together. Why do we keep pretending it’s anything other than a minor league farm system for the nfl? Same for basketball and the nba.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 04, 2026 11:34 AM (RPumj)

I have a niece who used to earn some coin tutoring jocks when she was at Clemson. She told me whatever I might imagine about some of them, the actuality was worse.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 04, 2026 11:38 AM (SgdqL)

139 The prosecutor is pretty gung ho. I would not bet on that outcome.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (3WsqO)

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Can he get a change of venue to, say, Jackson, MS?

I man can dream ...

Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:38 AM (IJ/6M)

140 The same people that say we need to exterminate whiteness also don't want to hire white people for high paying jobs? I'm shocked

Posted by: 18-1 at September 04, 2026 11:38 AM (sKqQm)

141 BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.
Posted by: JackStraw

Best outcome given the situation.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 04, 2026 11:38 AM (QUPkp)

142 The Big Ten got a tiny black eye last night with Rutgers losing at home to UMess… I mean UMass

Broke a 16 game UMass losing streak. They’ve been awful
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:35 AM (n7Rsm)

The UMass coach was the Rutgers coach last year.

He handed them their ass......in their home stadium.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:39 AM (ccf/V)

143 I have never practiced in Massachusetts. The five other states I have done trial in would never tolerate that level of open communication about the deliberations flowing out of the jury room. That was an astonishing amount of information coming out of an otherwise sacrosanct process.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 04, 2026 11:39 AM (wrEn7)

144 Is she bonded out?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 11:39 AM (YrlsR)

145 Oh, I see, now that the Big Ten is winning national championships, it's all corrupt (he said sarcastically).
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

====

In the case of Jim Harbaugh, that observation is spot on.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 04, 2026 11:39 AM (4HoLg)

146 Moments after Judge William Sullivan declared a mistrial, Lindsay Clancy's attorney Kevin Reddington asked the court and was granted a one hour for a stay of that mistrial ruling.

That request came at 11:30 a.m.

Reddington wants to file a single justice appeal to the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts, the highest court in the state, because he believes that the lone holdout juror that we learned about Thursday is essentially breaking the law.

Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:39 AM (F3Dlr)

147 I love how “college” football players can barely string a sentence together. Why do we keep pretending it’s anything other than a minor league farm system for the nfl? Same for basketball and the nba.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

===
My unpopular opinion is there should be a law a school can't lower any standards to admit a student in order for them to play athletics. A school is about academics, that's why they get taxpayer money. Sports is entertainment and now big business.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 04, 2026 11:40 AM (Kebsl)

148
yeah, but it's rutgers. i'm not sure they officially count as bigten...
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at September 04, 2026 11:38 AM (nXhwP)

Nappy Headed Ho's!!!!

Posted by: Zombie Don Imus at September 04, 2026 11:40 AM (ccf/V)

149 BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.
Posted by: JackStraw

Best outcome given the situation.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

==

Agreed.

And that one holdout juror is a hero (if I'm understanding the dynamic correctly)

It sounds there was one sane Masshole in that jury pool.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 04, 2026 11:41 AM (Kebsl)

150 Reddington wants to file a single justice appeal to the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts, the highest court in the state, because he believes that the lone holdout juror that we learned about Thursday is essentially breaking the law.
Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:39 AM (F3Dlr)

Is there a law that says a juror must find a person who strangled her children to death not guilty

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:41 AM (+gK6I)

151 Talarico says if Jesus had a mother she would have been just like Lindsay Clancy.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:36 AM (3WsqO)

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Don't give her any ideas. She might literally crucify her next three children ...

Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:41 AM (IJ/6M)

152 I bet they don't re-try and she "walks" after a short mental hospital stay.. very frustrating..

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:34 AM (+gK6I)

Depends on a number of things, but there is generally a process for release from a psychiatric hospital if she gets committed for this. The process is usually that she will only be released if both the psychiatric review board considers her not dangerous, and the victims are not active in objecting to the release.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM (rbvCR)

153 She's at the nut house.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM (YrlsR)

154 Great write-up, Buck.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM (dK+Kv)

155 DEI is just an iteration of the Replacement Plan, yes? And we all know who is to be replaced, in a descending order of targets. Sometimes it’s like chickens buying stock in Chik-Fil-A.

Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM (Gqar8)

156 151 Talarico says if Jesus had a mother she would have been just like Lindsay Clancy.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:36 AM (3WsqO)

You're joking I'm sure

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM (+gK6I)

157 The process is usually that she will only be released if both the psychiatric review board considers her not dangerous, and the victims are not active in objecting to the release.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM (rbvCR)

Well, since the victims are dead, I think I know the answer to that part.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 04, 2026 11:43 AM (SgdqL)

158
You're joking I'm sure
Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM (+gK6I)

But it IS totes believable.

Posted by: Zombie Don Imus at September 04, 2026 11:43 AM (ccf/V)

159 BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial in Lindsay Clancy murder case after hung jury.
Posted by: JackStraw

Best outcome given the situation.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

==

Agreed.

And that one holdout juror is a hero (if I'm understanding the dynamic correctly)

It sounds there was one sane Masshole in that jury pool.

Posted by: Sharpie at September 04, 2026 11:41 AM (Kebsl)

Yep to all the above.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 04, 2026 11:43 AM (dK+Kv)

160 Damn......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:43 AM (ccf/V)

161 The process is usually that she will only be released if both the psychiatric review board considers her not dangerous, and the victims are not active in objecting to the release.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM (rbvCR)

The victims are unavailable for comment

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:43 AM (+gK6I)

162 Could Lindsay be lobotomized in the loony bin? Lie to me if you must.

Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:44 AM (Gqar8)

163 Is there a law that says a juror must find a person who strangled her children to death not guilty
Posted by: It's me donna

My understanding is that the juror can not find her guilty if there is even a shadow of a doubt in his mind about her mental state.
I asked your question last night on the ont and Blonde Morticia helped me understand the letter of the law instructions.

Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:44 AM (F3Dlr)

164 Sometimes it’s like chickens buying stock in Chik-Fil-A.
Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM

Our job here is done.

Posted by: Cowz at September 04, 2026 11:44 AM (ccf/V)

165 If she is paralyzed she wouldn't be a threat.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 11:44 AM (YrlsR)

166 Reddington wants to file a single justice appeal to the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts, the highest court in the state, because he believes that the lone holdout juror that we learned about Thursday is essentially breaking the law.
Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:39 AM (F3Dlr)

well. THAT is going to support the jury trial system. Imagine being on a jury with the understanding that if you don't comply and rubber stamp what is handed to you, you can be prosecuted as a criminal as well.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 04, 2026 11:45 AM (rbvCR)

167 He is living large while feeling smug about denying job opportunities to young accountants seeking their first job.

Pulling up the ladder by any other name...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 04, 2026 11:45 AM (iIyc0)

168 Now I want to see Titty Killer 6: Tits of Mars.

It's real, and it's spectacular. The trailer is real anyway.

See it, if you haven't already. I might skip it on Corporate networks.

https://x.com/Exxcellent_01/

status/2094429764849180830

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 04, 2026 11:45 AM (dK+Kv)

169 If she is paralyzed she wouldn't be a threat.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 11:44 AM (YrlsR)

Bullshit. Evil ALWAYS finds a way.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:45 AM (ccf/V)

170 If she is paralyzed she wouldn't be a threat.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 11:44 AM (YrlsR)

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How many Boston Stranglers can she hire?

I'm afraid to ask if she has a GoFundMe setup and how much it's worth ...

Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:45 AM (IJ/6M)

171
I'm afraid to ask if she has a GoFundMe setup and how much it's worth ...
Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:45 AM (IJ/6M)

I believe her parents do ?

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:46 AM (+gK6I)

172 Well, since the victims are dead, I think I know the answer to that part.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 04, 2026 11:43 AM (SgdqL)

The husband and his family get a say, too.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 04, 2026 11:46 AM (rbvCR)

173 I love how “college” football players can barely string a sentence together. Why do we keep pretending it’s anything other than a minor league farm system for the nfl? Same for basketball and the nba.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

You are now seeing Pro Players going back to College because they can make more money in College than Pro ball, as now it's been blocked by a Judge but who knows.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 04, 2026 11:46 AM (9SRwn)

174 My understanding is that the juror can not find her guilty if there is even a shadow of a doubt in his mind about her mental state.
I asked your question last night on the ont and Blonde Morticia helped me understand the letter of the law instructions.
Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:44 AM (F3Dlr)

I’m not a lawyer but that can’t be right. The terminology is beyond a reasonable doubt. The word shadow never appears in jury instructions

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:46 AM (n7Rsm)

175 The Big Ten got a tiny black eye last night with Rutgers losing at home to UMess… I mean UMass
_________

The SEC has Kentucky. We haven't really done anything in football since Jared Lorenzen, the Pillsbury Throwboy.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 04, 2026 11:46 AM (XvL8K)

176 Could Lindsay be lobotomized in the loony bin? Lie to me if you must.
Posted by: tubal

Yes. With a .45

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 04, 2026 11:46 AM (QUPkp)

177 BREAKING UPDATE: In a SHOCK to absolutely everyone, the Lindsay Clancy judge has given Clancy's defense an HOUR to petition Massachusetts' supreme court to REMOVE the lone juror blocking Clancy's acquittal

This is TOTALLY UNPRECEDENTED

The mistrial declaration is now ON HOLD

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 04, 2026 11:47 AM (ViCCR)

178 don't re-try and she "walks" after a short mental hospital stay.. very frustrating..
Posted by: It's me donna

It's amusing because she cain't walk!

Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 04, 2026 11:47 AM (Fn+3X)

179 Re; Lindsay Clancy

Constance Fisher drowned her three children in a bathtub in 1954. Mental hospital. Declared better. Released. Husband stayed.

They had three more kids.

She drowned those three too.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 04, 2026 11:48 AM (Cr6XZ)

180 Depends on a number of things, but there is generally a process for release from a psychiatric hospital if she gets committed for this. The process is usually that she will only be released if both the psychiatric review board considers her not dangerous, and the victims are not active in objecting to the release.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM

She did not plead "not guilty by reason of insanity" she pled not guilty. She never used the insanity defense.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 04, 2026 11:48 AM (cpFbA)

181
It's amusing because she cain't walk!
Posted by: Captain Obvious at September 04, 2026 11:47 AM (Fn+3X)

That's why I put "walks" in quotes

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:48 AM (+gK6I)

182 Massachusetts is totally fucked up

John and Sam Adams and John Hancock rolling over in their graves…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:48 AM (n7Rsm)

183 177 BREAKING UPDATE: In a SHOCK to absolutely everyone, the Lindsay Clancy judge has given Clancy's defense an HOUR to petition Massachusetts' supreme court to REMOVE the lone juror blocking Clancy's acquittal

This is TOTALLY UNPRECEDENTED

The mistrial declaration is now ON HOLD
Posted by: olddog in mo at September 04, 2026 11:47 AM (ViCCR)

So Massachusetts is a Republic, whose main industry is growing bananas. Who knew?

Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:48 AM (Gqar8)

184
I'm afraid to ask if she has a GoFundMe setup and how much it's worth ...
Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:45 AM (IJ/6M)

I believe there is one and it's over a million so far.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:48 AM (ccf/V)

185 I'm thinking the bitch will eventually walk. I see it as the left's continuing extension of abortion laws. They want women to legally kill a child up to the age of 18.

And open season on men they fall out of love with. It's coming.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 04, 2026 11:49 AM (g8Ew8)

186 170

I'm afraid to ask if she has a GoFundMe setup and how much it's worth ...
Posted by: ShainS at September 04, 2026 11:45 AM (IJ/6M)

There is a GoFundMe. Not sure who set it up but it is supposedly to benefit Lindsay's parents. But it has $1.1 million, with a $2 million goal.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 04, 2026 11:49 AM (N39Ws)

187 Lindsay Clancy is not going to walk.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 11:49 AM (YrlsR)

188
This is TOTALLY UNPRECEDENTED

The mistrial declaration is now ON HOLD
Posted by: olddog in mo at September 04, 2026 11:47 AM (ViCCR)

Is this true?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:49 AM (ccf/V)

189 Reddington wants to file a single justice appeal to the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts, the highest court in the state, because he believes that the lone holdout juror that we learned about Thursday is essentially breaking the law.
Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:39 AM (F3Dlr)

--

How, precisely, does a lawyer not in the jury deliberation room know these details, or the mind of the juror in question? Is he suddenly arguing simultaneously that his client's mind cannot be understood but this juror's can?

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at September 04, 2026 11:49 AM (EF8U3)

190 You're joking I'm sure

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:42 AM (+gK6I)

Sort of

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:49 AM (3WsqO)

191 I’m really starting to dislike this defense attorney. His zealotry on behalf of a murderer of children is…. Gross

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:50 AM (n7Rsm)

192 Judge is a wimp. He should have held that defense attorney in contempt for the way he spoke to the judge.

How is it known that the one holdout was for conviction?

Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 11:50 AM (3ImbR)

193 There are pictures of the three children in matching outfits.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 11:51 AM (YrlsR)

194 Her defense is post partum psychosis which is essentially insanity she didn't know what she was doing was wrong...

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:51 AM (3WsqO)

195 There is no law requiring a juror to deliver a particular verdict.

This is nonsensical bullsh*t coming from the defense team.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 04, 2026 11:51 AM (LiLGh)

196 How is it known that the one holdout was for conviction?
Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 11:50 AM (3ImbR)

yeah, Wonder how he knows?

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:51 AM (+gK6I)

197 Nice, but $21 million to these guys is ass ooze that James Talacreepo mops up after a night out with his tranny rentboys.

Deloitte alone had over $70 billion (with a "b") in revenue last year.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 04, 2026 11:51 AM (iFTx/)

198 I’m not a lawyer but that can’t be right. The terminology is beyond a reasonable doubt. The word shadow never appears in jury instructions
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

This was the judge's instructions from yesterday. He said reasonable doubt.

I have told you that every person is to be presumed innocent until they are proved guilty, and that the burden of proof is on the prosecutor. If you evaluate all of the evidence and you still have reasonable doubt remaining, the defendant is entitled to the benefit of that doubt and must be acquitted.
Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 12:51

Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:51 AM (F3Dlr)

199 I see it as the left's continuing extension of abortion laws. They want women to legally kill a child up to the age of 18.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 04, 2026 11:49 AM (g8Ew

That's what my oldest daughter says. (No, she's not one of them, but thinks the whole thing is Satanic.)

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 04, 2026 11:51 AM (SgdqL)

200 We can all see the problem, can’t we? From the county, nationwide, to DC, it is the court system. Until the problem is fixed we will have arbitrary feckless “ justice”. Which is no justice at all. Maybe we should adopt the No Justice, No Peace mantra.

Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:52 AM (Gqar8)

201 Sure glad I'm nearing the end of my CPA career. Now self-employed sole practitioner. Long ago abandoned my membership in the American Institute of CPAs (basically controlled by the Big Four firms) as they went off the leftist deep end.

Posted by: Bruce at September 04, 2026 11:52 AM (ShS3y)

202 My understanding is that the juror can not find her guilty if there is even a shadow of a doubt in his mind about her mental state.
I asked your question last night on the ont and Blonde Morticia helped me understand the letter of the law instructions.
Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:44 AM (F3Dlr)

I’m not a lawyer but that can’t be right. The terminology is beyond a reasonable doubt. The word shadow never appears in jury instructions
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

It's 11 acquittal to 1 guilty. That why the defense wants them removed.

If it was 11 guilty to 1 acquittal no way in hell the defense attorney would want them off the case.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 04, 2026 11:52 AM (Cr6XZ)

203 196 How is it known that the one holdout was for conviction?
Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 11:50 AM (3ImbR)

yeah, Wonder how he knows?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:51 AM (+gK6I)

Notes were passed from the jury foreman to the judge yesterday afternoon. It stated that there was one juror who refused to follow the law.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 04, 2026 11:52 AM (N39Ws)

204 Is there a law that says a juror must find a person who strangled her children to death not guilty
Posted by: It's me donna

The Good and Plenty Clause

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:52 AM (3WsqO)

205 There is no law requiring a juror to deliver a particular verdict.

This is nonsensical bullsh*t coming from the defense team.

I imagine it matters if the holdout told the rest of the jury he wouldn't vote to acquit no matter what.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:53 AM (Riz8t)

206 Judge is a wimp. He should have held that defense attorney in contempt for the way he spoke to the judge.

How is it known that the one holdout was for conviction?

Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 11:50 AM

Got a gut feeling someone on the jury is chatting with the defense team.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 04, 2026 11:53 AM (cpFbA)

207 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at September 04, 2026 11:53 AM (TZmpp)

208 How is it known that the one holdout was for conviction?
Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 11:50 AM (3ImbR)

yeah, Wonder how he knows?
Posted by: It's me donna

Because if it was for acquittal, he wouldn't want them removed. They are the only thing saving her.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 04, 2026 11:54 AM (Cr6XZ)

209
I imagine it matters if the holdout told the rest of the jury he wouldn't vote to acquit no matter what.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:53 AM (Riz8t)

Because he sat through the trial, saw all the evidence provided and came to an undeniable conclusion she was guilty.

That's not illegal.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:54 AM (ccf/V)

210 When is the hour up?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 11:54 AM (YrlsR)

211 I clerked in a civil court for years and there's no way any judge I worked for would have put up with that defense attorney admonishing him. No way.

Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 11:54 AM (3ImbR)

212 211 I clerked in a civil court for years and there's no way any judge I worked for would have put up with that defense attorney admonishing him. No way.

Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 11:54 AM (3ImbR)

OJ, anyone?

Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:55 AM (Gqar8)

213 @189

>>How, precisely, does a lawyer not in the jury deliberation room know these details, or the mind of the juror in question?

My assumption is the jury foreman is advising the judge on what's happening in deliberations and is in turn advising counsels.

Again, a juror is not required to go along with the other jurors findings of fact.

The holdout juror saw all of the same fact patterns during trial and formed is their own finding of guilt or innocence.

As the cool kids say, this is how the system works sometimes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 04, 2026 11:55 AM (LiLGh)

214 I’m really starting to dislike this defense attorney. His zealotry on behalf of a murderer of children is…. Gross

Think of it this way: He can take a person who committed mass murder, confessed to it, had evidence brought in by the truckload and still managed to get a Not Guilty verdict.

That kind of Lawyer can demand all kinds of fees going forward.

Posted by: Community Notes at September 04, 2026 11:56 AM (NzX/y)

215 Boss Moss - the request came at 11:30 a.m

Posted by: old chick at September 04, 2026 11:56 AM (F3Dlr)

216 I support the separation of sport and state

Posted by: Don Black at September 04, 2026 11:56 AM (ZxPkt)

217 >>>Because if it was for acquittal, he wouldn't want them removed. They are the only thing saving her.
~~~~~

True, but how did he know the holdout was for conviction? He shouldn't have known. There's something very fishy going on.

Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 11:56 AM (3ImbR)

218 How is it known that the one holdout was for conviction?
Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 11:50 AM (3ImbR)

yeah, Wonder how he knows?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:51 AM (+gK6I)
_________

It was obvious from the note the jurors passed to the judge. While they didn't say specifically that the one juror refused to acquit, they said that one juror refused to follow the law on reasonable doubt. That's a clear signal that the juror was voting guilty.

The Blade said yesterday people would be surprised at the split. I was assured by several people that it was one or nuts who wanted to acquit. I said "no, I think it's the other way around."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 04, 2026 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

219 Regarding the Clancy juror kerfuffle, why doesn't he just say "fuck you, Prosecutor proved his case beyond all reasonable doubt and I think this bitch is guilty!"

Or is the judge putting his thumb on the scale?

Posted by: Robert at September 04, 2026 11:57 AM (TZmpp)

220 True, but how did he know the holdout was for conviction? He shouldn't have known. There's something very fishy going on.
Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 11:56 AM (3ImbR)

IIRC, the jury note commented about how the holdout juror wouldn't follow the law. The holdout acknowledged there was some doubt, but wouldn't follow the law.

Based on these comments, it is safe to say the 11 jurors are finding not guilty due to insanity.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 04, 2026 11:58 AM (N39Ws)

221 Joke for ace:

There was a power outage at my house this morning.

My PC, Laptop, TV, DVD, IPad and new surround sound music system were all shut down.
Then I discovered that my iPhone battery was dead. To top it off, it was raining so I couldn’t go for a walk, bike or run.
The garage door opener needed electricity so I couldn’t go anywhere in the car. I went to the kitchen to make coffee and then remembered this also needed power.
So I sat and talked with my wife for a few hours.
She seems like a nice person.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 04, 2026 11:58 AM (u82oZ)

222 The Blade said yesterday people would be surprised at the split. I was assured by several people that it was one or nuts who wanted to acquit. I said "no, I think it's the other way around."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 04, 2026 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

Obviously or the defense Atty wouldn't want the juror removed

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 11:58 AM (+gK6I)

223 > I’m really starting to dislike this defense attorney. His zealotry on behalf of a murderer of children is…. Gross
------------
Maybe his retainer/fee revolves around the verdict?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 04, 2026 11:58 AM (2Cry5)

224 11 to 1 probably isn't going to a conviction.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (YrlsR)

225 If she walks she can’t be tried for their murder again. Or is that just being too simplistic?

Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (Gqar8)

226 I’m really starting to dislike this defense attorney. His zealotry on behalf of a murderer of children is…. Gross

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 11:50 AM (n7Rsm)
==
His job is to get his client off if possible and the least sentence available otherwise. He is doing his job, quite well it would seem.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (7/DDO)

227 I already erased any predictions I made about this idiotic trial when I learned that this jury was not sequestered. To subject them to this circus is itself insanity. No way they should have been exposed to the outside world.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (3WsqO)

228
I’m not a lawyer but that can’t be right. The terminology is beyond a reasonable doubt. The word shadow never appears in jury instructions
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

====================

I didn't say "shadow" on the ONT. Reasonable doubt.

What *seems* to be happening is that the holdout is trying to say Guilty With Reasonable Doubt, which is not a verdict option.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (mmrXZ)

229 I thought the jury was given instructions that if they couldn't convict her on 1st Degree, they could consider 2nd Degree or even manslaughter.

Haven't heard any information after deliberations started though.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (N39Ws)

230
Based on these comments, it is safe to say the 11 jurors are finding not guilty due to insanity.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 04, 2026 11:58 AM (N39Ws)

She didn't plead that. If they're taking that route, that's not their instructions and they're wrong for thinking it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (ccf/V)

231 I imagine it matters if the holdout told the rest of the jury he wouldn't vote to acquit no matter what.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:53 AM (Riz8t)

Because he sat through the trial, saw all the evidence provided and came to an undeniable conclusion she was guilty.

That's not illegal.

I was unclear. I meant he said that before listening to the evidence.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (Riz8t)

232 It was obvious from the note the jurors passed to the judge. While they didn't say specifically that the one juror refused to acquit, they said that one juror refused to follow the law on reasonable doubt. That's a clear signal that the juror was voting guilty.

I'm not denying that what you're saying is correct but a juror throwing up an endless string of "what if", unrelated to the facts presented, would be refusing to follow the law on "reasonable doubt".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 04, 2026 12:00 PM (ExV1e)

233 The Blade said yesterday people would be surprised at the split. I was assured by several people that it was one or nuts who wanted to acquit. I said "no, I think it's the other way around."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 04, 2026 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

Are you claiming "first?" That would be out of character for you.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 04, 2026 12:00 PM (dK+Kv)

234 If she walks she can’t be tried for their murder again. Or is that just being too simplistic?
Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM

If a mistrial is declared and it stands, the prosecution can call for a retrial.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 12:00 PM (ccf/V)

235 Maybe his retainer/fee revolves around the verdict?
Posted by: Martini Farmer
_______

Can't take a contingent fee in a criminal case. Only in civil cases.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 04, 2026 12:00 PM (XvL8K)

236 If she walks she can’t be tried for their murder again. Or is that just being too simplistic?
Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (Gqar

______

Mistrial? She can be tried again. But as I said yesterday, I think the prosecution could try this case 100x and not get a conviction.

Acquittal? She walks. Possibly there's some confinement to a nuthouse, but she'll eventually walk free as a bird.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 04, 2026 12:00 PM (iFTx/)

237 @205

>>I imagine it matters if the holdout told the rest of the jury he wouldn't vote to acquit no matter what.

The only scenario they could face any jeopardy is if they made a declaration that they would not deliberate or examine the evidence.

And even then the bar is very high for and sort of misconduct process.

And I doubt this is the case.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 04, 2026 12:00 PM (LiLGh)

238 Is he working on his doctorate?"

Lots of people go to college for six years. They're called doctors...

Posted by: man at September 04, 2026 12:00 PM (cGjQu)

239 >>>It was obvious from the note the jurors passed to the judge. While they didn't say specifically that the one juror refused to acquit, they said that one juror refused to follow the law on reasonable doubt. That's a clear signal that the juror was voting guilty.
~~~~~

I have to disagree. The holdout could have been the only one who had reasonable doubt, and the others--like most of the people on this here blog--saw clearly that she was guilty as sin.

Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 12:01 PM (3ImbR)

240 If she walks she can’t be tried for their murder again. Or is that just being too simplistic?
Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (Gqar

If she's found not guilty then she cannot be tried for murdering her children again.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 04, 2026 12:01 PM (ExV1e)

241
I was unclear. I meant he said that before listening to the evidence.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (Riz8t)

Ah. If he said that, he's a biased fool and shouldn't have been on the jury in the first place.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 12:01 PM (ccf/V)

242 BBC:

The prosecution can either refile and restart the trial with a new jury or negotiate a plea agreement.

Alternatively, prosecutors could dismiss the charges altogether.

"Could dismiss the charges altogether."

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:01 PM (odBC9)

243 236. Yea, I agree. it was going to be a tough case in any event. Now she has been sainted. No way you keep all the commie off the jury.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 04, 2026 12:02 PM (wrEn7)

244 234 If she walks she can’t be tried for their murder again. Or is that just being too simplistic?
Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM

If a mistrial is declared and it stands, the prosecution can call for a retrial.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 12:00 PM (ccf/V)

Thanks. I am not an attorney, nor play one.I do know an unjust court system though - you can tell from the smell.

Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 12:02 PM (Gqar8)

245 Part of any DEI settlement should include the firing of those who engaged in it.

Nothing less will do. The money will just be replaced the next time the Dems are in power.

Posted by: Thatch at September 04, 2026 12:02 PM (S6YCM)

246 Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn’t mean beyond all doubt. The word reasonable gives a lot of wiggle room to any juror. This is a clown show

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 12:03 PM (n7Rsm)

247 As for LSU - The SEC filed an emergency motion in Federal Court requiring LSU abide by the rules they agreed to with the other SEC schools, and of course to override the local judges ruling.

The alternative is to kick LSU out of the conference after the SEC commish has a nice talk with the Big Ten and Big 12.

The NCAA is a total f*ck up for sure, but they were formed to prevent just what is happening. Funny how that works. College football is looking at a bubble explosion of their own making.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 04, 2026 12:03 PM (7/DDO)

248 If a mistrial is declared and it stands, the prosecution can call for a retrial.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 12:00 PM (ccf/V)

Thanks. I am not an attorney, nor play one.I do know an unjust court system though - you can tell from the smell.
Posted by: tubal
_________

If it was 11-1 for acquittal, they'll never retry this case. They'll take whatever plea they can get.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 04, 2026 12:03 PM (XvL8K)

249 243 236. Yea, I agree. it was going to be a tough case in any event. Now she has been sainted. No way you keep all the commie off the jury.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 04, 2026 12:02 PM (wrEn7)
That right there.

Posted by: Eromero at September 04, 2026 12:03 PM (wFmdf)

250 I imagine it matters if the holdout told the rest of the jury he wouldn't vote to acquit no matter what.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:53 AM (Riz8t)

Because he sat through the trial, saw all the evidence provided and came to an undeniable conclusion she was guilty.

That's not illegal.

I was unclear. I meant he said that before listening to the evidence.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 04, 2026 11:59 AM (Riz8t)
__________

I believe the note to the judge said the lone juror had some doubts but still wanted to convict. There's nothing wrong with that. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" isn't the elimination of ALL possible doubts.

This is very unusual what is happening.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 04, 2026 12:03 PM (iFTx/)

251
okay.

We are now officially in-

The No Ace Holiday Zone.

WARNING! All Ewok accessories including Vespas, Satchels, and BBQ'd Hobo Ribs forbidden!

Posted by: naturalfake at September 04, 2026 12:04 PM (iJfKG)

252 Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn’t mean beyond all doubt. The word reasonable gives a lot of wiggle room to any juror. This is a clown show

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 04, 2026 12:03 PM (n7Rsm)

Clown show in an age where a significant portion of the population has "reasonable" doubt that boys have a penis and girls have a vagina. Just because there is one hold out from the foaming mob, it does not mean that one person is the unreasonable one.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 04, 2026 12:05 PM (dK+Kv)

253 I guess the lesson here is obvious.

Never try a Gemini for murder when Mercury is in retrograde!!!

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 12:05 PM (3WsqO)

254 So 8% of the Massachusetts jury pool was not deranged. That is disturbing.

Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 12:05 PM (Gqar8)

255 Ewok said he'd pop in for Clancy trial stuff if there was news.

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:06 PM (odBC9)

256 Well at least when they decide to retry her, we'll have a flurry of crying TikTok videos from mental lunatics.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 12:06 PM (3WsqO)

257 I am not an attorney, nor play one.
Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 12:02 PM (Gqar

Did you at least stay at a Holiday Inn?

Posted by: Robert at September 04, 2026 12:06 PM (TZmpp)

258 I wonder if women's prisons operate the same as men's. I was never within 200 miles of the women's unit.

Will women off a child killer like men do?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 04, 2026 12:06 PM (Cr6XZ)

259 Shoe0nHead is gonna scream.

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:07 PM (odBC9)

260
Will women off a child killer like men do?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 04, 2026 12:06 PM (Cr6XZ)

One can only hope.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 12:07 PM (ccf/V)

261 257 I am not an attorney, nor play one.
Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 12:02 PM (Gqar

Did you at least stay at a Holiday Inn?
Posted by: Robert at September 04, 2026 12:06 PM (TZmpp)

Briefly. The curry smell got to me. That was naughty of me, but, based on experience.

Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 12:07 PM (Gqar8)

262
I am not an attorney, but I have seen My Cousin Vinnie

ask me anything

Posted by: Don Black at September 04, 2026 12:08 PM (ZxPkt)

263 Remember the defense lawyer saying the defendant was unlikely to be able to endure another trial.

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:08 PM (odBC9)

264 Don't forget about the jurors wearing pink in solidarity with the protestors.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 04, 2026 12:08 PM (EGW4m)

265 Sorry about the interruption to your post, Buck.

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:08 PM (odBC9)

266 I am not an attorney, but I have seen My Cousin Vinnie

ask me anything
Posted by: Don Black

I'm not s gynecologist, but I'll take a look.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 04, 2026 12:08 PM (Cr6XZ)

267 Now she has been sainted. No way you keep all the commie off the jury.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 04, 2026 12:02 PM (wrEn7)
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Yep. She's going to ~~walk~~ roll. And forget about a plea--why would she accept that now?

Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 12:09 PM (3ImbR)

268 Her tires should hold out.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 12:09 PM (YrlsR)

269 263 Remember the defense lawyer saying the defendant was unlikely to be able to endure another trial.
Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:08 PM (odBC9)

Poor poor Lindsay. Does not your heart go out to her, for all she’s had to endure??

Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 12:09 PM (Gqar8)

270 Let's sequester the next jury, m'kay?

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:09 PM (odBC9)

271 Remember the defense lawyer saying the defendant was unlikely to be able to endure another trial.
Posted by: m

Boo fucking hoo.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 04, 2026 12:09 PM (Cr6XZ)

272 263 Remember the defense lawyer saying the defendant was unlikely to be able to endure another trial.
Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:08 PM (odBC9)

Yes, which is why I hope the Prosecution goes for a re-trial.. make her see the photo's of her dead children again

Posted by: It's me donna at September 04, 2026 12:09 PM (+gK6I)

273 269 263 Remember the defense lawyer saying the defendant was unlikely to be able to endure another trial.
Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:08 PM (odBC9)

Poor poor Lindsay. Does not your heart go out to her, for all she’s had to endure??
Posted by: tubal at September 04, 2026 12:09 PM (Gqar

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:09 PM (odBC9)

274 I had a professor in law school got called in for a drunk driving trial. Turned an 11-1 for acquittal into 12-0 conviction by telling the jury all the kinds of things that were likely excluded based on various comments, objections, etc. during trial. Turns out it was the perp's 5th *conviction* for drunk driving. Probably a couple dozen more arrests (this being Boston, after all). Frankly, I was proud of my prof. It's one thing for a misdemeanor that really doesn't harm anyone, but a reprobate drunk driver who is a failed saving throw from maiming or killing someone, I've got no problems.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at September 04, 2026 12:09 PM (Fv808)

275 Being killed by your mother must be awful. My mom tried to strangle me. I don't know why she stopped but she did.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 12:10 PM (3WsqO)

276 Will women off a child killer like men do?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 04, 2026 12:06 PM (Cr6XZ)

One can only hope.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
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Search the web for video of Marianne Bachmeier. She shot the dude in the courtroom.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 04, 2026 12:10 PM (XvL8K)

277 >I wonder if women's prisons operate the same as men's. I was never within 200 miles of the women's unit.
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In women's prisons, they take group showers A LOT
I learned this from movies

Posted by: Don Black at September 04, 2026 12:10 PM (ZxPkt)

278 Not that being killed by anyone else is any fun. You know what I mean.

Posted by: ... at September 04, 2026 12:10 PM (3WsqO)

279 The photo of the children on Wikipedia is all they need.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 12:11 PM (YrlsR)

280 Nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at September 04, 2026 12:11 PM (NcvvS)

281 Shoe0nHead is gonna scream.
Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:07 PM (odBC9)

I stopped watching her videos when she said Republicans only support Israel as a way to trick Jesus Christ into returning to Earth.

Like of all the weird fucking Jewish conspiracies one can dream up, she dreams up THAT?!?

Antisemites really are the dumbest, most paranoid fucking people alive.

Posted by: Robert at September 04, 2026 12:11 PM (B9LHt)

282 Search the web for video of Marianne Bachmeier. She shot the dude in the courtroom.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

She got lucky. .22lr isn't my 1st choice.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 04, 2026 12:11 PM (Cr6XZ)

283 259 Shoe0nHead is gonna scream.
Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:07 PM (odBC9)

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Leaflit already had her AI farm take the TikTok screencaps in Shoe's video and put them to music. It's now a video on her YT. It is a banger, titled "Slay Queen".

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at September 04, 2026 12:11 PM (EF8U3)

284 BREAKING UPDATE: In a SHOCK to absolutely everyone, the Lindsay Clancy judge has given Clancy's defense an HOUR to petition Massachusetts' supreme court to REMOVE the lone juror blocking Clancy's acquittal

This is TOTALLY UNPRECEDENTED

The mistrial declaration is now ON HOLD
Posted by: olddog in mo at September 04, 2026 11:47 AM

Given our SJC, they'll rule for the defense. Because it's the stupidest thing possible.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 04, 2026 12:11 PM (9Q+nP)

285 https://shorturl.at/RSTeA

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 04, 2026 12:12 PM (YrlsR)

286 EWOK UP

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:12 PM (odBC9)

287 BREAKING UPDATE: In a SHOCK to absolutely everyone, the Lindsay Clancy judge has given Clancy's defense an HOUR to petition Massachusetts' supreme court to RE
This is TOTALLY UNPRECEDENTED
The mistrial declaration is now ON HOLD
Posted by: olddog in mo at September 04, 2026 11:47 AM
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Insane!

Judge should be removed from the bench and both he and the defense attorney should be disabarred.

Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 12:14 PM (3ImbR)

288 283 259 Shoe0nHead is gonna scream.
Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:07 PM (odBC9)

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Leaflit already had her AI farm take the TikTok screencaps in Shoe's video and put them to music. It's now a video on her YT. It is a banger, titled "Slay Queen".
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at September 04, 2026 12:11 PM (EF8U3)

On Leaflit's YT or Shoe's YT?

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:14 PM (odBC9)

289 Meanwhile, "Crackers may not apply" is still official government policy in Canada. It's enshrined in law. It's upheld by the courts.

The "right kind of racism" is not only permitted and encouraged, it's enforced.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 04, 2026 12:14 PM (O7YUW)

290 281 Shoe0nHead is gonna scream.
Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:07 PM (odBC9)

I stopped watching her videos when she said Republicans only support Israel as a way to trick Jesus Christ into returning to Earth.

Like of all the weird fucking Jewish conspiracies one can dream up, she dreams up THAT?!?

Antisemites really are the dumbest, most paranoid fucking people alive.
Posted by: Robert at September 04, 2026 12:11 PM (B9LHt)

That doesn't sound like her.
I'm sorry.

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:14 PM (odBC9)

291 I am not an attorney, but I have seen My Cousin Vinnie

ask me anything
Posted by: Don Black at September 04, 2026 12:08 PM (ZxPkt)

My common response is "Everything that guy just said is bullshit."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 04, 2026 12:19 PM (ccf/V)

292 On Leaflit's YT or Shoe's YT?
Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:14 PM (odBC9)

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Leaflit's regular channel and SlimeCoreRadio.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at September 04, 2026 12:19 PM (EF8U3)

293 The garage door opener needed electricity

There should be a lanyard to pull and detach the door from the opener. The springs still hold the door you just move it.

Note: don't let the FBI catch you making a noose out of the cord.

Posted by: DaveA at September 04, 2026 12:20 PM (FhXTo)

294 Judge should be removed from the bench and both he and the defense attorney should be disabarred.
Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 04, 2026 12:14 PM (3ImbR)

Nah. It's Massachusetts. He'll get an award, a plaque, and a coupon for White Castle.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 04, 2026 12:24 PM (hmYU4)

295 292 On Leaflit's YT or Shoe's YT?
Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:14 PM (odBC9)

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Leaflit's regular channel and SlimeCoreRadio.
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at September 04, 2026 12:19 PM (EF8U3)

I've just gone over there. Thank you for reminding me about her!

Posted by: m at September 04, 2026 12:41 PM (odBC9)

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