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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 09, 2026 11:01 AM (kgE5c) 2
Mississippi went back to using phonics.
Liberals were stunned that the way we taught kids to read for generations still worked. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 09, 2026 11:01 AM (Kdi1r) 3
More money rarely, if ever, fixes government programs.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2026 11:02 AM (X8xt3) 4
The Others have been summoned.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 09, 2026 11:02 AM (kgE5c) 5
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:02 AM (Zz0t1) 6
Unions are the reason the average cost of a new vehicle is $32,000.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:03 AM (Zz0t1) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:04 AM (Zz0t1) 8
>> New York spends $31,918 -- more than two and a half times as much -- and its children read less well for it.
IT'S FUNNY WE PRETEND THIS MONEY IS SPENT ON CHILDREN, WHEN IT'S OBVIOUSLY SPENT ON ADMINISTRATION STAFF, THEIR LUXURIES, AND GRAFT. Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at June 09, 2026 11:04 AM (X8xt3) 9
It's nice that kids can read. Now, get them to make correct change.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 09, 2026 11:04 AM (jehhT) 10
Here's another interesting fact:
37-38% of MS's pop is black. 18% of NY's is black. Apparently, black kids can learn. Who knew? Posted by: Archimedes at June 09, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t) 11
Willowed:
Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2026 10:55 AM (X8xt3) Ok . But "communist trannie in love with King George" from prior poster sounds like a bit of a stretch😉 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 09, 2026 10:59 AM (ix8EF) I believe that guy's intent was to make people laugh. But, I could be mistaken. Posted by: naturalfake at June 09, 2026 11:05 AM (iJfKG) 12
Mississippi’s fourth graders now read better than their peers in New York, Minnesota, and California -- every one of them a state that spends a great deal more per child than we do. And here is the part the spend-more crowd would rather you did not dwell on. We get those better results on far less money.
Red v. Blue. Caring and nurturing v. communist shithole. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:05 AM (Zz0t1) 13
Apparently, black kids can learn. Who knew? Posted by: Archimedes at June 09, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t) But they can't get ID's. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:05 AM (Zz0t1) 14
Or use the internet.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:06 AM (Zz0t1) 15
10 Here's another interesting fact: 37-38% of MS's pop is black. 18% of NY's is black. Apparently, black kids can learn. Who knew? Posted by: Archimedes at June 09, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t) ==== *confused head tilt, mouth agape* -Joe Biden Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 09, 2026 11:06 AM (IOrWk) 16
Good to see RMBS get the first rather than Elric.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:06 AM (77rzZ) 17
Public employees shouldn't be allowed to unionize. Whether they be cops, teachers, firefighters, or air traffic controllers.
Posted by: Martbell at June 09, 2026 11:06 AM (as6X5) 18
17 Public employees shouldn't be allowed to unionize. Whether they be cops, teachers, firefighters, or air traffic controllers.
Posted by: Martbell at June 09, 2026 11:06 AM (as6X5) ==== "America would never be so stupid to allow that, right?" -FDR Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 09, 2026 11:07 AM (IOrWk) 19
*confused head tilt, mouth agape*
-Joe Biden That's right, Joe. Poor kids can learn as well as white ones. Posted by: NR Pax at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (jjoN6) 20
Did Mississippi get better, or did the cockroaches in the unions make the other states worse?
Posted by: Minuteman at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (EplXO) 21
*confused head tilt, mouth agape* -Joe Biden Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 09, 2026 11:06 AM (IOrWk) *goes to 7-Eleven* *orders slurpee with an Indian accent* Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (Zz0t1) 22
As an RN I was appalled to find nurses joining unions.
Think of a Union strike of nurses. First they can't abandon their patients, those at work when the strike begins are on the floor until the strike ends. How safe are those patients after a 2 or 4 day strike? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (IP7s4) 23
Unions are one of the most corrosive influences in America, and teachers unions (along with government employee unions) are the worst of the bunch. Yep, the purpose of a union is to get people to pay more money for less work. And total protection for the worker that fucks up. Now, why would we want that setup for any public employee? Esp. teachers. Public and Health worker unions should be illegal. Posted by: naturalfake at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (iJfKG) 24
Destroy the teacher's unions and bring in more Miss Crabtree.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (snZF9) 25
16 Good to see RMBS get the first rather than Elric.
Posted by: Bulg I thought Sponge got it. At least he announced it that way. Posted by: NR Pax at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (jjoN6) 26
Good to see RMBS get the first rather than Elric.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:06 AM (77rzZ) Elric never noods. He is not valid. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (Zz0t1) 27
I thought Sponge got it. At least he announced it that way. Posted by: NR Pax at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (jjoN6) *fistbump* Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:09 AM (Zz0t1) Posted by: Miss Cra-bapple at June 09, 2026 11:09 AM (Riz8t) 29
Destroy the teacher's unions and bring in more Miss Crabtree.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (snZF9) Hard to learn with a hard on. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:09 AM (Zz0t1) Posted by: Archimedes at June 09, 2026 11:10 AM (Riz8t) 31
Huh. I heard he's bona fide. Posted by: Archimedes at June 09, 2026 11:10 AM (Riz8t) Legend in his own mind. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:10 AM (Zz0t1) 32
Meeting one's goals is a sure way to freezing or reducing your budget in a government agency.
Yet another aspect of the perversity of bureaucracy. Posted by: Minuteman at June 09, 2026 11:10 AM (EplXO) 33
22 As an RN I was appalled to find nurses joining unions.
Mother and brother both had to deal with this as nurses. Mom said she was going to be a Beck employee. Union rep kept arguing until she threatened him with violent action. Brother finally went Beck and told them it wasn't going to change unless they stopped the political donations. Posted by: NR Pax at June 09, 2026 11:10 AM (jjoN6) 34
Did Mississippi get better, or did the cockroaches in the unions make the other states worse?
Posted by: Minuteman ==== They got better. How they did it makes for interesting reading. And there are many Red states copying their play book. Unfortunately, the Blue states will ignore it, because part of the program is actually requiring achievement before moving to next grade. Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 09, 2026 11:11 AM (81kKH) 35
10 Here's another interesting fact:
37-38% of MS's pop is black. 18% of NY's is black. Apparently, black kids can learn. Who knew? Posted by: Archimedes ======= Easier for the state of Mississippi to jerk local school districts around demanding change (like phonics in reading) which are largely rural instead of the institutionalized and politicized large cities in the North and West (and South for that matter) where the focus in on politics and wealth extraction from schools rather than teaching their kids how to read. You rarely see the school activist types and unions in rural districts. They go to where their power and grifting opportunities are the greatest which is why every urban district in this country are largely immune from any state or federal control. All of those unified districts need to die and be cut into little bailiwicks instead of monstrously big centralized offices. Return to neighborhood schools and neighborhood control and you might get something similar to MS success--keep the big money extraction centralized machines, nothing will work to improve those districts. And abolish Colleges of Education with a refusal for the Fedgov to pay for them. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:11 AM (E4rtv) 36
The only kinds of unions I can live with are those for professions that are inherently dangerous, say coal-mining (back in the day when we still had coal mines). The unions can ensure that safety standards are met and enforced, and can act as a support network for the survivors of men who die on the job.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:13 AM (77rzZ) 37
They got better. How they did it makes for interesting reading. And there are many Red states copying their play book.
Unfortunately, the Blue states will ignore it, because part of the program is actually requiring achievement before moving to next grade. Posted by: 2009Refugee ===== Phonics works, whole language is a commie and stupid invention from college lab school data, and functional literacy is need for any chance at a decent life nowadays other than perhaps criminality. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:13 AM (E4rtv) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:13 AM (Zz0t1) 39
Thx CBD, good post
I posted this morning about my local school district. The budget went up and was approved by the local leftist. The superintendent salary went up as did various administrators. 39 people were laid off including guidance counselors and teachers aides. The administration said many were retiring but less than a third from what I hear. The students will produce the same results. Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 09, 2026 11:13 AM (zj5z7) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 09, 2026 11:14 AM (ndZc7) 41
Teacher's unions are not very strong in the South.
If teachers walk out they probably won't have a job to come back to. I believe the states try to be fair as they can but they won't take a lot of bullsh*t. Also the cost of living is not as high as in other parts of the country. Posted by: Case at June 09, 2026 11:14 AM (+zXtV) 42
Destroy the teacher's unions and bring in more Miss Crabtree.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (snZF9) Hard to learn with a hard on. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:09 AM (Zz0t1) True. I had a really cute young 5th grade teacher. She is still alive, and was at my brother's house recently. He was going to a school reunion and she lives fairly close to him, so my brother had a small gathering at his house first. She showed up and my brother drove her to the reunion. Dickhead didn't tell me about it, so I didn't see her, but I will this year. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:14 AM (snZF9) 43
The only kinds of unions I can live with are those for professions that are inherently dangerous, say coal-mining (back in the day when we still had coal mines). The unions can ensure that safety standards are met and enforced, and can act as a support network for the survivors of men who die on the job.
So you're saying journalists with the mainstream media should have union protection? I knew it! Posted by: Scott Pelley, MoH recipient at June 09, 2026 11:14 AM (Riz8t) 44
Destroy the teacher's unions and bring in more Miss Crabtree.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (snZF9) We had some thoughts along these lines . . . I think of all the education that I missed But then my homework was never quite like this Posted by: Van Halen at June 09, 2026 11:14 AM (wVcYX) 45
>>All of those unified districts need to die and be cut into little bailiwicks instead of monstrously big centralized offices. Return to neighborhood schools and neighborhood control and you might get something similar to MS success--keep the big money extraction centralized machines, nothing will work to improve those districts.
And finish off the Dept of Education!! Curricula should not be set by DC bureaucrats. Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2026 11:14 AM (X8xt3) 46
John Ketcham: Zohran Mamdani’s Disdain for NYC Business Is Showing
- I didn't know it was a secret. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 09, 2026 11:15 AM (ndZc7) 47
I think unions give their members a couple of things; inflated sense of self worth and some level of protection from recriminations should they fail at their job.
Whether there are positions, such as those in education or medicine that shouldn't be unionized is debatable, but it seems counter productive to the services they are supposed to be providing. Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 09, 2026 11:15 AM (jehhT) 48
Sponge is always first. Sometimes he shares the honor with someone else (in this thread's case, RMBS), but he's still first.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:15 AM (77rzZ) 49
Curricula should not be set by DC bureaucrats.
Curricula, daughter of Dracula. Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 09, 2026 11:16 AM (x0zYr) 50
Sad......he didn't have a headstone as his mother couldn't afford one. She didn't have one either. Some rocker named MIKAL paid $4,500 to have 2 stones put up in 2012.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:16 AM (Zz0t1) 51
36 The only kinds of unions I can live with are those for professions that are inherently dangerous, say coal-mining (back in the day when we still had coal mines). The unions can ensure that safety standards are met and enforced, and can act as a support network for the survivors of men who die on the job.
Posted by: Bulg Company based unions are probably better than massive national unions. A company union understands that if the company goes down, their jobs are likely to go with it. A national union will burn a company and its workers just to improve bargaining with other companies. Hostess bankruptcy is an example where a company union might have worked to save their own jobs while the national union was adamant, for fear of precedent, from wage/benefit reductions needed to keep the company from shutdown. Something similar happened in the WSJ story about US Steel and Nippon acquisition. The local steelworkers bucked the national union and asked Trump to allow Nippon to buy US Steel with the required capital infusion. Now Nippon is building a huge new rolling mill right next to the steel mill to the tune of billions of bucks. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:17 AM (E4rtv) 52
I got back from our polling location about an hour ago and did my part to try and oust the burrowed tick that is Lindsay Graham from his Senate seat. The poll worker said hardly anybody has been in to vote. Early voting for D's has come in hot and heavy this year compared to years past, according to Jr. Black who pulled some figures from somewhere. I fear the day will soon come that SC starts turning from pretty solid red to shades of purple. We've had such a massive influx of people from other states move here the last few years. I fear we'll eventually become NC, GA, VA, CO, etc., in terms of trajectory. Oh well, what are ya gonna do...
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 09, 2026 11:17 AM (qBdHI) 53
It's criminal that children are being taught NOT to read.
Anyone of average intelligence (or slightly below) can be taught how to read at an early age. Our brains are practically hard-wired to learn how to read. The fact that so many children are actively denied this fundamental human skill is just one more form of slavery. They are denied the ability to think for themselves so that whey then become adults they will do what they are told. Especially when it comes to voting. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 09, 2026 11:17 AM (gnNyN) 54
@ 2 Mississippi went back to using phonics. Liberals were stunned that the way we taught kids to read for generations still worked.
______________________________ Next, they need to go back to teaching ENGLISH. Posted by: Dr_No at June 09, 2026 11:18 AM (ayRl+) 55
True. I had a really cute young 5th grade teacher. She is still alive, and was at my brother's house recently. He was going to a school reunion and she lives fairly close to him, so my brother had a small gathering at his house first. She showed up and my brother drove her to the reunion. Dickhead didn't tell me about it, so I didn't see her, but I will this year. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:14 AM (snZF9) What are the odds he tried to bang her. LOL! Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:18 AM (Zz0t1) 56
I gots an unrelated rant of my own today: Why the h&*! does it seem like deliberately wasting peoples' time is the go-to response for anyone asked to help anyone? I keep running into this over and over. Student aid people should have finished closing out my old ITT scam loans? Foot dragged 15 months. Trying to talk to folks at my church about a subject established earlier with an immediate need? Foot dragged three weeks. Want a project at work finished? Bosses insert themselves, foot drags for three months. It's like it's some kind of power flex these days, and I neither get nor appreciate it.
"We now return to your regularly scheduled comment section, already in progress..." Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:18 AM (OUMaO) 57
All you need is a free labor market, bounded by laws. If it's illegal to abuse workers and they can leave if underpaid, it will all work itself it out without the involvement of licentious mafia goons who bust out the business and leave the union members twisting in the wind.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 09, 2026 11:18 AM (BI5O2) 58
Sponge is always first. Sometimes he shares the honor with someone else (in this thread's case, RMBS), but he's still first.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:15 AM (77rzZ) #Winning Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:18 AM (Zz0t1) 59
Fun fact:
Spanky died when he was 21 years old........ Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:13 AM (Zz0t1) I think you mean Alfalfa. Spanky made it to 64 . Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:18 AM (snZF9) 60
The Teachers unions need to end because they are now the biggest donors to Democrat candidates, and the longtime leader of one, Randi Weingarten, is a political insider who shapes policy such as covid shutdowns, and regularly hangs out with America's enemies in the ME and Cuba.
They have little to do with basic education and representing teachers, they are completely political and revolutionary. Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2026 11:19 AM (X8xt3) 61
What are the odds he tried to bang her.
LOL! Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:18 AM (Zz0t1) Slim to none, she's 80 years old. lol Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:20 AM (snZF9) 62
I think you mean Alfalfa. Spanky made it to 64 .
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division Alfalfa was still around in 1946. He had a bit part in It's a Wonderful Life. Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:20 AM (77rzZ) 63
MUNKEY Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 09, 2026 11:20 AM (FkdoK) 64
Slim to none, she's 80 years old. lol Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:20 AM (snZF9) Ah. He DOES have standards. HAHAHAHA!!! Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:20 AM (Zz0t1) 65
Alfalfa was still around in 1946. He had a bit part in It's a Wonderful Life.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:20 AM (77rzZ) Not a singing part, I trust. Posted by: Count de Monet at June 09, 2026 11:21 AM (wVcYX) 66
One thing I'd love to see is cameras and audio in every classroom. They had that in the after-school school I taught at in South Korea.
Number one reason is safety. It removes a place for the teacher's to try to have sex with students. Everyone may be a bit better behaved. But the BIGGEST reason, let every parent see and record what the hell's going on inside each classroom. and you know the teacher's unions and teachers would fight this tooth and nail.... Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 09, 2026 11:22 AM (Sco7b) 67
Public service unions shouldn't even be a question. The fact that it's even legal points to the corruption underlying our entire government.
There's no such thing as collective bargaining when the employer is forced to pay the employees at gunpoint. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 09, 2026 11:22 AM (BI5O2) Posted by: Dr_No at June 09, 2026 11:22 AM (ayRl+) 69
And finish off the Dept of Education!!
Curricula should not be set by DC bureaucrats. Posted by: Lizzy DoE is less of a problem than Congressional statutes and the Courts interfering with important matters of school discipline, etc. Mainstreaming does not work, you do not mainstream disciplinary problems back into normal classrooms. Most of the vapid curriculum comes from unions, state governments' DoE, local school activists, textbook companies, and toxic College of Education mavens that turn out lousy students with plenty of political opinions but little idea of classroom management nor mastery of the subject that they are teaching. FWIW, I helped write curriculum standards for a state in my field along with teacher education training modules as to applying the standards. And groups like Gates and Co pushing their failed multistate curriculum garbage, textbook vendors, and other nasty assorted political activist groups are just as deleterious to good schooling. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:22 AM (E4rtv) 70
Teacher's unions are not very strong in the South.
Would you believe that wasn't always true? The Alabama Education Association was, within my own living memory, the 800 lb. gorilla of state politics here, until about the late 80s when Republicans started winning things and the landscape shifted. Now it's the Chamber of Commerce crowd, which has a lot to do with why AL workers get shafted so frequently, but once it was our teacher's union. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:22 AM (OUMaO) 71
Well, there's your problem.
Kyle Becker @kylenabecker Let’s review. California: - Made it illegal to show voter IDs - Mass mail-in ballots across the state - Allows people to print ballots at home - Allows people to register anywhere in the state - Allows ballot harvesting - Allows people to register with “IDs” like gym memberships & insurance cards - Allows people to hand-date ballot envelopes, no postmark required - Has 853,000 + “ghost voters” - Sanctuary state that harbors illegal aliens - Refuses to turn over dirty voter rolls for verification - Refuses to allow independent signature verification audit - Refuses to allow ballot inspection audit This isn’t exactly “subtle.” It’s a blueprint for stealing elections. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at June 09, 2026 11:22 AM (ndZc7) 72
{pretends to read the content} Okay, now, here's what we were talking about in the previous thread:
Socio and psychopathy unite the Left. They will do anything for power, money, and/or sex. The Right in DC is similar among the professional party folks and the pay for play lobbyists but they don't hate their opponents--in fact, they want to emulate them. The only cure for the invasion of the theater/student government kids is to either a) institute required personality tests to screen out psychopaths, deviants, and sociopaths from office, or b) more realistically reduce the size of the national government to core concerns of threats to the Union and push all other decision making and taxation to the lowest level possible. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 10:57 AM (E4rtv) This is basically the Catholic concept of Subsidiarity -- pushing each decision down to the smallest unit possible (normally the family). I note that the more secular and fashionable a Protestant church is, the more statist they are, and for our own Cardinals it seems to be that the more gay the more statist. Posted by: SciVo at June 09, 2026 11:22 AM (Sy6m/) 73
"We now return to your regularly scheduled comment section, already in progress..."
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:18 AM (OUMaO) How are you doing? I've been concerned. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 09, 2026 11:23 AM (Sco7b) 74
>>But the BIGGEST reason, let every parent see and record what the hell's going on inside each classroom.
Heh, Covid era zoom classes were a revelation for a lot of parents. Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2026 11:23 AM (X8xt3) 75
Good morning! My new dishwasher has been installed. Bless!
Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:24 AM (Wmg4n) 76
All you need is a free labor market, bounded by laws. If it's illegal to abuse workers and they can leave if underpaid, it will all work itself it out without the involvement of licentious mafia goons who bust out the business and leave the union members twisting in the wind.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice Agreed, with the caveat of strict laws against multi-industry wage suppression. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:24 AM (OUMaO) 77
Sure, there are issues with correlating money and outcome, because there are confounding variables at work. For instance, it is likely that poorly-performing districts have money thrown at them, so their budgets increase without any improvement in outcomes. But there is a correlation, and more important, there is vast improvement driven by something other than money!
Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM It's similar to childhood nutrition: a certain amount of childhood nutrition is necessary to allow a person to grow to their full physical and mental potential. Up until that point, you can claim that childhood nutrition is the only important factor for adult attainment. However, once you are beyond that minimum amount, extra nutrition has almost zero correlation to physical and mental outcomes, to the point that it is irrelevant in an advanced economy. So too with spending on education. Once you exceed the minimum amount necessary, gains will slow rapidly and eventually cease. EVERY location in the US is well beyond that minimum amount. When our governments throw more money at education, it is now detrimental because of the perverse incentives it creates. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 09, 2026 11:25 AM (N1tpc) 78
This is basically the Catholic concept of Subsidiarity -- pushing each decision down to the smallest unit possible (normally the family).
Same thing with the military. You try to solve problems at the lowest level of the chain of command as possible. Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:25 AM (77rzZ) 79
>>Most of the vapid curriculum comes from unions, state governments' DoE, local school activists, textbook companies, and toxic College of Education mavens that turn out lousy students with plenty of political opinions but little idea of classroom management nor mastery of the subject that they are teaching. . .
And groups like Gates and Co pushing their failed multistate curriculum garbage, textbook vendors, and other nasty assorted political activist groups are just as deleterious to good schooling. - - - - Yikes, a lot more groups involved in the corruption than I imagined!! Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2026 11:25 AM (X8xt3) 80
I think you mean Alfalfa. Spanky made it to 64 . Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:18 AM (snZF9) The OTHER Spanky.... Spanky - Norman Myers "Chubby" Chaney Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:25 AM (Zz0t1) 81
Heh, Covid era zoom classes were a revelation for a lot of parents.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 09, 2026 11:23 AM (X8xt3) Yeah, and those classes were when the Our Precious Teachers were on the *best* behavior of their entire careers, and it still pissed everyone off, even though they couldn't show little Johnny gay porn for once. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 09, 2026 11:25 AM (BI5O2) 82
Alfalfa died at 31. Chubby at 21, and Froggy at 16
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at June 09, 2026 11:25 AM (EcHpA) 83
Or, the internet is lying to me again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:25 AM (Zz0t1) 84
Destroy the teacher's unions and bring in more Miss Crabtree
*** More true words have never been spoken Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 09, 2026 11:26 AM (PJdmB) 85
66 One thing I'd love to see is cameras and audio in every classroom. They had that in the after-school school I taught at in South Korea.
Number one reason is safety. It removes a place for the teacher's to try to have sex with students. Everyone may be a bit better behaved. But the BIGGEST reason, let every parent see and record what the hell's going on inside each classroom. and you know the teacher's unions and teachers would fight this tooth and nail.... Posted by: Stateless Viscerally I hate the idea but as someone well acquainted with education, it is needed because too many times, the people in those positions cannot restrain themselves. And likewise the students nowadays. Like bodycams have done to the George Floyd and eternal shit stirring over police actions, once many people are faced with seeing students do awful things in the classroom and shoving that evidence in the face of activists and parents of dindu nuffin students, it might result in safer classrooms for education. But, the disruptive students have to go from regular classes for education to occur. Even one or two bad apples in a class can sour the entire atmosphere and affect the other students. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:26 AM (E4rtv) 86
But the BIGGEST reason, let every parent see and record what the hell's going on inside each classroom.
and you know the teacher's unions and teachers would fight this tooth and nail.... Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 09, 2026 11:22 AM (Sco7b) This was the sliver lining to Covid. We ALL got to see what was happening in classrooms. It opened a LOT of eyeballs. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 09, 2026 11:26 AM (Kdi1r) 87
Good morning! My new dishwasher has been installed. Bless!
Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:24 AM (Wmg4n) I miss you. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:26 AM (Zz0t1) 88
Good morning! My new dishwasher has been installed. Bless!
Posted by: Piper I thought you had a kid for that. Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:26 AM (77rzZ) 89
Karmelo:
If a def isn't willing to testify in his own defense, he shouldn't opt for a tria (at least not a jury trial). If a def pleads not guilty, a jury expects "to hear his side of the story"-- jury instructions notwithstanding. On a related topic: Most trial lawyers have experienced their own witness(es) say something unexpected and unwelcome. Comes with the territory. Careful witness prep helps, but... stuff still happens. I don't see Karmelo's lawyer(s) as ineffective just because they got a joy buzzer from a witness. Posted by: mnw at June 09, 2026 11:27 AM (RCjYY) 90
Good morning! My new dishwasher has been installed. Bless!
Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:24 AM (Wmg4n) We have to do dishes in HEAVEN?!?!?!? Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 09, 2026 11:27 AM (Kdi1r) 91
65 Alfalfa was still around in 1946. He had a bit part in It's a Wonderful Life.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:20 AM (77rzZ) Not a singing part, I trust. Posted by: Count de Monet at June 09, 2026 11:21 AM (wVcYX) However, he did have a part in a card game. Posted by: Eromero at June 09, 2026 11:27 AM (LHPAg) 92
The OTHER Spanky....
Spanky - Norman Myers "Chubby" Chaney Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:25 AM (Zz0t1) Chubbsy Ubbsy! Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:27 AM (snZF9) 93
70 Teacher's unions are not very strong in the South.
Would you believe that wasn't always true? The Alabama Education Association was, within my own living memory, the 800 lb. gorilla of state politics here, until about the late 80s when Republicans started winning things and the landscape shifted. Now it's the Chamber of Commerce crowd, which has a lot to do with why AL workers get shafted so frequently, but once it was our teacher's union. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, They keep chasing me to join. Maybe I should! Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:28 AM (OoFl2) 94
How are you doing?
I've been concerned. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog Thanks for asking! Rough, unfortunately. Just did my second in-car overnight. The link in my nic is for a GiveSendGo intended to stabilize housing, but I didn't do my research and I can't even touch the funds until next week, which is kinda putting me in a pickle now. Why yes, my rant earlier does have something to do with the situation. That said, I'm blessed to have had the positive response I've had, and if I can last long enough to access it I have a shot at more stable housing, which would mean easier to get a better paying job, which would finally put the cycle in a good direction. But I gotta get there first. And I'm really feeling like God's dog's favorite chew toy lately. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:28 AM (OUMaO) 95
The subhuman degenerate who murdered Irina declared not competent to stand trial.
Looks like he'll be back on the street murdering White girls in no time. Just as his masters want. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 09, 2026 11:28 AM (qwx/I) 96
Good morning! My new dishwasher has been installed. Bless!
Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:24 AM (Wmg4n) What does a specter need with a dishwasher? Posted by: Ectoplasmic Cascade? at June 09, 2026 11:28 AM (TbWk/) 97
I don't see Karmelo's lawyer(s) as ineffective just because they got a joy buzzer from a witness. Posted by: mnw at June 09, 2026 11:27 AM (RCjYY) He told police "I'm not alleged, I did it." No defense for an admitted murderer. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:28 AM (Zz0t1) 98
90 Good morning! My new dishwasher has been installed. Bless!
Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:24 AM (Wmg4n) We have to do dishes in HEAVEN?!?!?!? Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 09, 2026 11:27 AM (Kdi1r) No! The dishwasher does them! We just have to load and unload correctly. Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:29 AM (OoFl2) 99
Chubbsy Ubbsy!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 09, 2026 11:27 AM (snZF9) Ah, the good old days. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:29 AM (Zz0t1) Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:29 AM (OUMaO) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:30 AM (Zz0t1) 102
Private sector unions aren't as dangerous. And in Europe I believe they require unions to ONLY be associated with one company which removes a lot of the problems with them.
If Ford workers go on strike and kill Ford under those rules the union dies. Posted by: 18-1 at June 09, 2026 11:30 AM (sKqQm) 103
We have to do dishes in HEAVEN?!?!?!?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 09, 2026 11:27 AM (Kdi1r) No! The dishwasher does them! We just have to load and unload correctly. Posted by: Piper Word is the cherubs can never get the glasses loaded without breakage... Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:31 AM (OUMaO) 104
But I gotta get there first. And I'm really feeling like God's dog's favorite chew toy lately. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09 Where are you? Do you mind saying? Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:31 AM (OoFl2) 105
No! The dishwasher does them! We just have to load and unload correctly.
Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:29 AM (OoFl2) Whew. I was so, so concerned. Thank you for assuaging me with your angelic knowledge and beatific graces. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 09, 2026 11:31 AM (Kdi1r) 106
2 Mississippi went back to using phonics.
Liberals were stunned that the way we taught kids to read for generations still worked. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 09, 2026 11:01 AM (Kdi1r) Communists stunned-or more peeved- that time tested methods work is pretty much the standard. Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 09, 2026 11:31 AM (mPXxA) 107
No! The dishwasher does them! We just have to load and unload correctly.
Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:29 AM (OoFl2) ---- There's always a catch... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 09, 2026 11:31 AM (gnNyN) 108
We have to do dishes in HEAVEN?!?!?!?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 09, 2026 11:27 AM (Kdi1r) That's in The Bad Place. In heaven you have to sing Bill Gaither and boyfriend Jesus praise songs 24/7/infinity. Posted by: I'll take hell, thanks. at June 09, 2026 11:32 AM (TbWk/) 109
Smug Cheatafornians: "But what percentage of public schools students in Mississippi know how to roll out a condom on a cucumber, hmmmmmm?" Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 09, 2026 11:32 AM (T4iXq) 110
Where are you? Do you mind saying?
Posted by: Piper North of you in Montgomery. Current job is location locked but so long as I can step into something else I'm decreasingly wedded to it (other than wanting to bring my AFLAC cancer rider with me). Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:32 AM (OUMaO) 111
But I gotta get there first. And I'm really feeling like God's dog's favorite chew toy lately.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:28 AM (OUMaO Thanks for the update. I truly understand how an unstable housing situation tosses life in the air. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 09, 2026 11:33 AM (Sco7b) 112
And they did this all without any Quality Learing Centers.
Posted by: creeper at June 09, 2026 11:33 AM (80oeU) 113
Looks like he'll be back on the street murdering White girls in no time. Just as his masters want.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 09, 2026 11:28 AM (qwx/I) Clearly, a squad of vigilantes needs to scoop him up, and confine him for life in an institution for the criminally insane. / Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 09, 2026 11:33 AM (1z8ji) 114
Joshua Hall
@JoshHall2024 🚨BREAKING:🚨FORMER THUNE STAFFER SAYS RINO SENATE MAJORITY LEADER IS "GLEEFULLY" BLOCKING ALL OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S GOVERNMENT NOMINEES AND APPOINTMENTS - A former staffer of TRUMP HATING RINO Senate Majority Leader John Thune has come forward to claim that Thune is INTENTIONALLY BLOCKING EVERY SINGLE GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENT THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP NOMINATES to serve in his administration as a part of Thune's RELENTLESS EFFORT to please his puppet master Mitch McConnell by SABOTAGING our President and undermining him every step of the way. The staffer, who recently RESIGNED IN DISGUST after growing fed up with Thune's every day vulgar personal tirades against President Trump and open STONEWALLING of his agenda, is alleging that his former boss is WORKING HAND IN HAND with Democrat Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer in attempting to TAKE DOWN the duly-elected President and is even LEVERAGING EXTRA MONEY AND RESOURCES for the re-election campaigns of fellow so-called "Republican" Senators who sign on to his TREASONOUS effort to RESIST The Trump administration. This is AN ACTIVE AND ONGOING COUP PLOT being orchestrated by The Senate Majority Leader Posted by: SMOD at June 09, 2026 11:33 AM (RHGPo) 115
102 Private sector unions aren't as dangerous. And in Europe I believe they require unions to ONLY be associated with one company which removes a lot of the problems with them.
If Ford workers go on strike and kill Ford under those rules the union dies. Posted by: 18-1 at June 09, 2026 Germans have works councils which are very different to our unions. They actually do get a say in how a company is run. They are a true pain in the tush. Every now and again they do something normal. But not always! Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:34 AM (OoFl2) 116
Yikes, a lot more groups involved in the corruption than I imagined!!
Posted by: Lizzy ======= It is multifaceted which is why solving issues is so difficult. It doesn't help that the rise of Colleges of Education with certification barriers attract the lowest performing college students by k-12 grades and standardized testing results. Unions, especially strong in urban districts, make sure that teachers cannot be fired. Because billions of dollars are at stake, the political leaders get involved with schools management politicized, political activist groups ensure no school discipline can happen (school to prison pipeline bullshit to coddle criminals like Trayvon or the school mass killers), and so on. You either have to have charter schools where parents are involved, local neighborhood controlled schooling, etc. and removal of the courts from most standard decisions. If necessary, set up a school court system to weed out students. And we need to make technical education great again in schools. Too many students in our schools are simply not cut out for further education on a time schedule of k-12 nor rigors of college work. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:34 AM (E4rtv) 117
So if the guy's not competent to stand trial, why don't they institutionalize him?
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:34 AM (77rzZ) 118
No! The dishwasher does them! We just have to load and unload correctly. Posted by: Piper "...and that's when the donnybrook started, Your Honor." Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 09, 2026 11:34 AM (T4iXq) 119
SPLC hearing. How is it remotely legal that SPLC was running a network of spies who were tasked with informing on persons and organizations disfavored by the SPLC? To me it sounds like that whole business was crapping all over people's Constitutional rights and the protections provided by enacted laws with zero checks.
And this is without even factoring their using their public position to flat out destroy reputations, careers, getting people debanked - effectively turning them into pariahs without effective recourse. Mr. Fair, the head of SPLC, is squawking at the hearing, that what they did is protected by the 1st Amendment. The irony here is epic. The SPLC doesn't just reek of being private a KGB or Stasi organization it actually is just that. Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 11:34 AM (glnUu) Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:34 AM (OUMaO) 121
Sure there are problems correlating education outcomes with money, but when their argument is based on that correlation, it dies by that correlation.
Posted by: McLurkerson at June 09, 2026 11:35 AM (fCcQQ) 122
Posted by: SMOD at June 09, 2026 11:33 AM (RHGPo)
The biggest problem for Thune isn't whether or not it's true, it's that it's observably plausible. Posted by: SciVo at June 09, 2026 11:36 AM (Sy6m/) 123
The SPLC doesn't just reek of being private a KGB or Stasi organization it actually is just that.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions I knew a guy that worked security at their HQ of the time back in the 90s. Joint was (probably still is) like a fortress. Gets you thinking. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:36 AM (OUMaO) 124
Posted by: SMOD at June 09, 2026 11:33 AM (RHGPo)
*blows whistle* *throws flag* Excessive capitalization. 25 yard penalty, loss of down. Posted by: Writing Referee at June 09, 2026 11:36 AM (TbWk/) 125
People who come back from beyond want to experience life all over
Piper has a dishwasher for installed. God bless the Horde Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 09, 2026 11:36 AM (zj5z7) 126
Really, who are these vigilantes you speak of?
A group of suburban fathers who will be sent to prison for the rest of their lives by fanatical pension-ass cops or doctrinaire barely literate sand-people judges if they succeed in removing these threats from their streets? Their dingbat wives will be the first to turn them in. Eugenics is the only way forward. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 09, 2026 11:37 AM (qwx/I) 127
National unions, it seems, at least tangentially, are the economic version of Federal Judges issuing national injunctions and have many of the same effect.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 11:37 AM (glnUu) Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:37 AM (OUMaO) 129
Bah. I either forgot the Old Magic or it no longer works.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:38 AM (OUMaO) 130
I gots an unrelated rant of my own today: Why the h&*! does it seem like deliberately wasting peoples' time is the go-to response for anyone asked to help anyone? I keep running into this over and over. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:18 AM (OUMaO) Try to get a live human being on the line from UPS to fix a simple problem with online shipping on my account. Everything routes into two Retard AI Phone Trees, where they never answer the phone. Never. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 09, 2026 11:38 AM (FkdoK) 131
Perhaps ÖB is it?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:39 AM (OUMaO) 132
North of you in Montgomery. Current job is location locked but so long as I can step into something else I'm decreasingly wedded to it (other than wanting to bring my AFLAC cancer rider with me).
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June Okay, I was hoping closer, so I could at least get you food and see if we could unlock emergency shelter through my church. I am hating you sleeping in your car. Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:39 AM (OoFl2) 133
Too many students in our schools are simply not cut out for further education on a time schedule of k-12 nor rigors of college work.
Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:34 AM (E4rtv) Let’s not pretend today’s colleges are demanding rigorous work of their students. Posted by: McLurkerson at June 09, 2026 11:39 AM (fCcQQ) 134
Apparently, black kids can learn. Who knew?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 09, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t) But they can't get ID's. Posted by: Sponge Blame the super ego. Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 09, 2026 11:39 AM (W5mpo) 135
Testing:
&214B Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:37 AM (OUMaO) Flasher for a 1949 Shoebox Ford. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Zz0t1) 136
Well, this has been a morning of good news.
A dear friend is expecting baby #3, and the Powers That Be in MA have made my cousin a judge. It's nice to have some good news every now and again. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 09, 2026 11:39 AM (kgE5c) 137
116 Yikes, a lot more groups involved in the corruption than I imagined!!
Posted by: Lizzy As has been said often before, the problem is not that there is corruption in the system. The problem is that corruption IS the system. and that applies to so much these days. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 09, 2026 11:39 AM (edUvp) 138
No! The dishwasher does them! We just have to load and unload correctly.
Posted by: Piper Even in death they remain controlling, petty and judgmental. Posted by: NO! The bowl has to tilt 5 more degrees! at June 09, 2026 11:40 AM (TbWk/) 139
I’m in Steamfitters Local 342 Concord, CA. We’re doing our best to fuck outselves out of a job/existence. We’re told to vote for the motherfuckers that want to shutdown oil refineries…..our bread n butter, vote for the people that fight tooth n nail against gas fired co-gen power plants(nuclear, forget about it). Now the left is going to turn on their own with opposition to Data Centers which is a lot of work for us too. Nothing to fear from our private sector trade union.
Posted by: JROD at June 09, 2026 11:40 AM (uScCR) 140
119 SPLC hearing. How is it remotely legal that SPLC was running a network of spies who were tasked with informing on persons and organizations disfavored by the SPLC? To me it sounds like that whole business was crapping all over people's Constitutional rights and the protections provided by enacted laws with zero checks.
And this is without even factoring their using their public position to flat out destroy reputations, careers, getting people debanked - effectively turning them into pariahs without effective recourse. Mr. Fair, the head of SPLC, is squawking at the hearing, that what they did is protected by the 1st Amendment. The irony here is epic. The SPLC doesn't just reek of being private a KGB or Stasi organization it actually is just that. Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 11:34 AM (glnUu) I like the logical legal principle that once you have found a reason for a decision, you can stop. And we can stop at the point where the FBI started using them as a source. At that point, that is where the 1A began protecting us from them, and not the other way around. Posted by: SciVo at June 09, 2026 11:41 AM (Sy6m/) 141
Try to get a live human being on the line from UPS to fix a simple problem with online shipping on my account. Everything routes into two Retard AI Phone Trees, where they never answer the phone. Never.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur Been there. Done that. With deadlines for work stuff. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:41 AM (OUMaO) Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 09, 2026 11:41 AM (n5tGW) 143
138 No! The dishwasher does them! We just have to load and unload correctly.
Posted by: Piper Even in death they remain controlling, petty and judgmental. Posted by: NO! The bowl has to tilt 5 more degrees! at June 09, 2026 But still very cute! In a petty, controlling, judgmental way. 😊 Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:41 AM (OoFl2) 144
Well, this has been a morning of good news.
A dear friend is expecting baby #3, and the Powers That Be in MA have made my cousin a judge. It's nice to have some good news every now and again. Posted by: RedMindBlueState Outstanding! Congrats to all involved! Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:41 AM (OUMaO) 145
RMBS calls up his cousin:
"Your Honor, I need a little help in this case I'm working on. You know how blood is thicker than water? Well, here's what I need..." Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:42 AM (77rzZ) 146
A dear friend is expecting baby #3, and the Powers That Be in MA have made my cousin a judge.
It's nice to have some good news every now and again. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 09, 2026 11:39 AM (kgE5c) I have a cousin that's a judge in California. Not sure how she survives there. But, they have money, so..... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:42 AM (Zz0t1) 147
I don't care how many dollars you throw into public schools, if the kids aren't motivated to learn they wont learn. And that motivation starts at home.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 09, 2026 11:43 AM (0N4FZ) 148
⅋ mebbe?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:43 AM (OUMaO) 149
Ah, hex, that's got it...
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:43 AM (OUMaO) 150
147 I don't care how many dollars you throw into public schools, if the kids aren't motivated to learn they wont learn. And that motivation starts at home.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 09, 2026 11:43 AM (0N4FZ) There's no such thing as a bad school with involved parents. Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at June 09, 2026 11:44 AM (0bjKf) 151
The biggest problem for Thune isn't whether or not it's true, it's that it's observably plausible.
Posted by: SciVo His rep is in the toilet in his home state which may mean an approaching 2028 reelection will cause a change. He is trying the McConnell strategy of throwing the 2026 elections but the election map and the fact that Democrats are going nuts with their candidates is not helping that strategy. Trump is winning and dragging the decrepit and nasty Senate RINO caucus along despite the Uniparty stall tactic, and making DC politicians into hated critters outside the beltway. I think they break, because they are at heart cowards, rather than Trump. Get rid of ranked choice voting in 2026 in Alaska, that means Murcow is probably a dead senator walking. Thune, if he doesn't change his attitude, might be walking too. After all, he won by defeating Tom Daschle, Majority Leader for the Dems in SD. It can happen to him too. McConnell is gone, Daines is gone, Lummis is gone, Cassidy is gone, Tillis is gone, Cornyn gone, Ernst is gone, there will be a big shift in the GOP Senate caucus next Congress. Big turnovers usually result in significant changes in a majority Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:45 AM (E4rtv) 152
And it's always good to hear that folks are having babies.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:45 AM (77rzZ) 153
Granted unions have outlived their usefulness, but on the flip "right-to-work states" is a retarded phrase that exceeds even the worst characterizations of the phrase "Pro-Choice".
"Right-to-Work" actually means they can fire your ass for any reason so long as they do not tell you why. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 11:45 AM (/lPRQ) 154
Public employee unions are the major funding mechanism for Democrat candidates. So individual states will never outlaw those unions. It will not happen, ever, at the state level.
But it can happen at the federal level. It's another great fight worth having! Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 09, 2026 11:45 AM (FH4Rn) 155
whig
I thought this might be of interest to you, given your interest in literacy education: I volunteered to be a one-on-one adult literacy mentor. I was surprised to discover that some of my adult literacy students didn't want to learn to read, really. They wanted help with their medical correspondence-- which I was happy to supply. But it wasn't what I expected. My late mother was an English teacher. She also volunteered to teach adult lieracy. SHE expected to be helping school dropouts. Instead, almost all of her students were Korean women who had married U.S. servicemen & were eager to learn English as a second language. Posted by: mnw at June 09, 2026 11:45 AM (RCjYY) 156
There's no such thing as a bad school with involved parents.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell Until the school board starts calling the cops on 'em... Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:45 AM (OUMaO) 157
"Your Honor, I need a little help in this case I'm working on. You know how blood is thicker than water? Well, here's what I need..."
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:42 AM Yeah, odds are good I'll never be in that court. The AG's office usually handles our litigation. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 09, 2026 11:45 AM (kgE5c) Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:46 AM (77rzZ) 159
I am very proud of Mississippi and I hope other states are taking note.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 09, 2026 11:46 AM (FMtrg) 160
Things started going south when kids became a tax write off.
Sad but true. Throw in welfare and they have no chance. LaQuisha doesn't know who her dad is. Neither do her 5 siblings. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:46 AM (Zz0t1) 161
Before I get brunch, take care of Ralphy and get back onto my personal projects to improve my life...
Remember a while back some academic idiots were pushing the idea that reading to your children at night was a form of racism because *some* kids didn't have that and it affected them academically. But as others have pointed out, they have to want to learn. And honestly, a lot of classrooms and students would be better off if some kids were just removed from class and tossed into the "jungle room" to do whatever. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 09, 2026 11:46 AM (Sco7b) 162
147 I don't care how many dollars you throw into public schools, if the kids aren't motivated to learn they wont learn. And that motivation starts at home.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 09, 2026 11:43 AM (0N4FZ) That's part of it. In the case of a lot of black kids they've been brainwashed to believe they are oppressed victims in a "school to prison pipeline" anyway so to attempt to learn is at best futile and an worst to participate in their own victimization. Posted by: Can't believe this is where we are at June 09, 2026 11:46 AM (TbWk/) 163
What are you trying to do? Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:46 AM (77rzZ) Math. It is forbidden. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:46 AM (Zz0t1) 164
Comedy Alert!
Rep. Hank "Guam Will Top Over" Johnson (DEMOCRAT) is going off that the SPLC was/is needed to counter act all the Southern White Supremacy with lots of examples from the 1960s. Checks notes: the white supremacists he is yelling about where DEMOCRATS. Is there a dumber and ill informed person in Congress? Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 11:47 AM (glnUu) 165
I think they break, because they are at heart cowards, rather than Trump. Get rid of ranked choice voting in 2026 in Alaska, that means Murcow is probably a dead senator walking. Thune, if he doesn't change his attitude, might be walking too. After all, he won by defeating Tom Daschle, Majority Leader for the Dems in SD. It can happen to him too.
Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:45 AM (E4rtv) ========================== whig for Senate! Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 09, 2026 11:47 AM (FH4Rn) 166
They drive an aggressive progressive agenda into our schools
In reality, teachers' unions are religious institutions, used to force their Progressive doctrine on our children, and consequently adults. Posted by: GWB at June 09, 2026 11:47 AM (kU0PQ) 167
As far as education goes; it probably wasn't a real good idea to spend billions on tablets and laptops so kids could just "Google" the answer without actually learning why the answer was correct.
But it made the teacher's life easier. The majority of the kids "passed." But learned nothing. Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 09, 2026 11:47 AM (jehhT) 168
What are you trying to do?
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:46 AM (77rzZ) Math. It is forbidden. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer Worse, HTML ampersands. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:47 AM (OUMaO) 169
LaQuisha doesn't know who her dad is. Neither do her 5 siblings.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:46 AM But they know the form numbers to apply for welfare when they give birth to their first paycheck. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 09, 2026 11:47 AM (kgE5c) 170
I agree government jobs shouldn't have unions.
I don't care if private companies have them but government jobs are paid for by the tax payer. We don't need the police walking out or the fire department. Public safety comes first. Posted by: Case at June 09, 2026 11:48 AM (+zXtV) 171
SPLC ?
Simple old school mafia protection racket. The persons and details may seem complicated, but the function is very simple - Pay us or 'somebody' gonna bust you shit. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 11:48 AM (/lPRQ) 172
158 Ah, hex, that's got it...
Posted by: Brother Tim What are you trying to do? Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:46 AM (77rzZ) He's putting the whammy on us. Posted by: *crosses self, throws salt, spits three times* at June 09, 2026 11:49 AM (TbWk/) 173
Never had a hot teacher. Not even in college.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 09, 2026 11:49 AM (g8Ew8) 174
Worse, HTML ampersands.
Posted by: Brother Tim Don't you have to request ampersand privileges from Ace or one of the cobs? Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:49 AM (77rzZ) 175
Posted by: I'll take hell, thanks. at June 09, 2026 11:32 AM (TbWk/)
It smells like microwave fish and burnt popcorn Posted by: ... at June 09, 2026 11:49 AM (h+FSu) 176
Comedy Alert!
Rep. Hank "Guam Will Top Over" Johnson (DEMOCRAT) is going off that the SPLC was/is needed to counter act all the Southern White Supremacy with lots of examples from the 1960s. Checks notes: the white supremacists he is yelling about where DEMOCRATS. Is there a dumber and ill informed person in Congress? Posted by: Alteria Pilgram ==== The parties 'flipped'. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 11:49 AM (/lPRQ) 177
Worse, HTML ampersands.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:47 AM (OUMaO) ---- Somehow you got it upside down and backwards. That's a neat trick. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 09, 2026 11:49 AM (gnNyN) 178
Fancy one? 🙵
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:49 AM (OUMaO) 179
Math. It is forbidden.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer Infinity comes in different sizes and today is the first day of the rest of your life. Think about it. Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 11:50 AM (glnUu) 180
Try to get a live human being on the line from UPS to fix a simple problem with online shipping on my account. Everything routes into two Retard AI Phone Trees, where they never answer the phone. Never.
-- I had to call them the other day. The AI chat crap is becoming ubiquitous. Absolutely awful. How can you get worse customer service than a faraway connection to India where you can barely understand the customer service rep? Well, they've found a way. AI chat when you need help. Posted by: Lady in Black at June 09, 2026 11:50 AM (qBdHI) 181
Infinity comes in different sizes and today is the first day of the rest of your life. Think about it.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 11:50 AM (glnUu) I'm going to live forever. I'm doing good so far. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:50 AM (Zz0t1) 182
Believe it or not I trained for web design with an intent to go to network security, that's how I got stuck with the student loans.
Take a guess how that worked out. HINT: Came crashing down in '08... Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:51 AM (OUMaO) 183
Fancy one? 🙵
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:49 AM (OUMaO) Oh, a Campersand! You tow it behind a Fiat. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 09, 2026 11:51 AM (1z8ji) 184
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The Alaska yes or no on ranked choice voting IS a biggie.Without it, Murk prolly can't survive, and AK wouldn't have had that DEM Congresswoman, either. Posted by: mnw at June 09, 2026 11:51 AM (RCjYY) 185
Hakeem Jefferies looks like a complete douchebag wearing a Knicks hat . No surprise there
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 09, 2026 11:51 AM (zj5z7) 186
Good to see RMBS get the first rather than Elric.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:06 AM (77rzZ) Elric never noods. He is not valid. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (Zz0t1) ___ Not true! He often "noods" with some gimmick like "nude hot persian girls" ... Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 09, 2026 11:51 AM (iFTx/) 187
Let’s not pretend today’s colleges are demanding rigorous work of their students.
Posted by: McLurkerson Even if they want to in the vast majority of non selective colleges, they cannot. If students cannot read nor write, that constrains what you can do with them. You cannot fix basic innumeracy, lack of language skills, nor disciplinary problems, nor lack of reading in college classes. So, you get some professors that demand as much rigor as college administrators will let them or others that simply wave them through. But the creation of computer metrics such as advancement to degree by students, failure rate analysis of classes, ready access to a multiplicity of deans of different sorts for customer (student) relations, and DEI concerns make that increasingly difficult. I was involved in some of that and that is being required by accrediting agencies, state legislatures, and administrators with enormous pressures on professors to pass their students along regardless of learning. And you never get rewarded for teaching--mainly it is for publications and grants because that reflects well on the administrators, not teaching students basics. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:51 AM (E4rtv) 188
All public employee unions should be abolished: we sued ours because they charged dues for non-members. We won, and they stipulated that 80% of the money we paid in dues went to political campaigns, and virtually all of those were Democrats. So it's money laundering. Taxpayer to govt, to public employee, to union, to govt.
Posted by: Random PJ at June 09, 2026 11:51 AM (+jscL) 189
FORMER THUNE STAFFER SAYS RINO SENATE MAJORITY LEADER IS "GLEEFULLY" BLOCKING ALL OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S GOVERNMENT NOMINEES AND APPOINTMENTS
------- FORMER SOVIET WEATHERMAN TELLS ALL; THERE WAS NO DROUGHT! Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 09, 2026 11:51 AM (BI5O2) 190
Oh, a Campersand! You tow it behind a Fiat.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Objection, a Fiat ain't towing anything, it's getting towed. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:52 AM (OUMaO) 191
I'm going to live forever.
I'm doing good so far. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:50 AM Fame! Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 09, 2026 11:52 AM (kgE5c) 192
Objection, a Fiat ain't towing anything, it's getting towed. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:52 AM (OUMaO) Fix it again, Tony! Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:53 AM (Zz0t1) 193
Mississippi spends around $12,300 per pupil...
New York spends $31,918 About the only confounding factor I see is the question of cost-of-living. What's the cost-of-living in NY vs Mississippi? Hmmm, here's what the internet says: Mississippi's index is 87.3 compared to New York’s 125.1. That works out to about double (it's an index, not regular math, so don't complain to me) the cost of living. So, NY should be spending (all other factors being equal, and assuming pay is most of the cost) about $25,000 per pupil. They're spending 25% more than that. Posted by: GWB at June 09, 2026 11:53 AM (kU0PQ) 194
The teachers' unions are especially powerful not only because of money and indoctrination, but because they are most active in mobilizing and getting out the vote for Democraps. Also, in a lot of cities, it's teachers supervising -- and counting -- the votes.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 09, 2026 11:53 AM (iFTx/) 195
McConnell is gone, Daines is gone, Lummis is gone, Cassidy is gone, Tillis is gone, Cornyn gone, Ernst is gone, there will be a big shift in the GOP Senate caucus next Congress.
Big turnovers usually result in significant changes in a majority Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:45 AM (E4rtv) You're right, it should happen. The problem for the next 6 months is that there's nothing to stop those that are leaving from gumming everything up just out of spite. Tillis and McConnell certainly will. and btw, I looked up the reason Senator Lummis from Wyoming is retiring. She said it's because she's 71, and she can't bear the thought of still being in the Senate when she's 77. I wish a whole lot more Senators would think just like that, and I appreciate her choice. This pack of cryptkeepers hanging on to office until the keys are pried from their shrunken, skeletal hands has been a plague on our government. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 09, 2026 11:53 AM (edUvp) 196
All public employee unions should be abolished: we sued ours because they charged dues for non-members. We won, and they stipulated that 80% of the money we paid in dues went to political campaigns, and virtually all of those were Democrats. So it's money laundering. Taxpayer to govt, to public employee, to union, to govt.
Posted by: Random PJ In the same class as NGOs. Democrats are the party of self-serving government. Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:53 AM (OUMaO) 197
Good to see RMBS get the first rather than Elric.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:06 AM (77rzZ) Elric never noods. He is not valid. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM *fistbump* Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 09, 2026 11:54 AM (kgE5c) 198
It's surprising teachers' unions push so much divisive DEI given how much it could hurt them economically. You would think that money would be the priority for unions. I suppose it's a combination of many of them being in a bubble, so not really realizing how divisive they're being, and enough of them being true believers. Still, they're working against most member's interest much of the time.
Posted by: Dave at June 09, 2026 11:54 AM (sbsMc) 199
I had to call them the other day. The AI chat crap is becoming ubiquitous. Absolutely awful. How can you get worse customer service than a faraway connection to India where you can barely understand the customer service rep? Well, they've found a way. AI chat when you need help.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 09, 2026 11:50 AM (qBdHI) DJT should push for a "Talk To An American" act. Require that any corporation with a presence in more than one State be required to have live human American citizens manning the phones during business hours, said persons being native English-speakers. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 09, 2026 11:54 AM (1z8ji) 200
Try to get a live human being on the line from UPS to fix a simple problem with online shipping on my account. Everything routes into two Retard AI Phone Trees, where they never answer the phone. Never.
=== Amazon is so much better. I ordered a $45 product that weighed about 5 lbs. They sent some goofy ass little plastic cup that weighed in at maybe an ounce... My only choice was to go to a UPS Store and ship it back because "not what I wanted". Could not get hold of a human to tell them it was not worth the postage, never mind my time or yours.... so some poor guy now has a used 50 cent "cup". Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 11:54 AM (/lPRQ) 201
12k per kid may not scale the same everywhere, but for comparison my kids' private school, which is by far the most expensive anywhere near here, costs us about 13k a year per kid.
There are zero excuses on the school side for spending 40, 50k per kid and not getting results. And Mississippi shows you can succeed even with a lot of kids that are, if adequately educated now, honestly not very smart. Posted by: heya at June 09, 2026 11:54 AM (ODCB/) 202
Remember a while back some academic idiots were pushing the idea that reading to your children at night was a form of racism because *some* kids didn't have that and it affected them academically. Posted by: Stateless Not being a lefty progtard, I have zero intention of harming my kid's future for woke scoring points with the faggots and criminal gangs in LA. I wish more people that aren't regulars here actually understood that. Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 09, 2026 11:55 AM (QVmho) 203
and btw, I looked up the reason Senator Lummis from Wyoming is retiring. She said it's because she's 71, and she can't bear the thought of still being in the Senate when she's 77. I wish a whole lot more Senators would think just like that, and I appreciate her choice.
I'd be for age limits before term limits. You hit 70, you're too damn old to run the country. You HAVE your nest egg. You got your graft. Go away now. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:55 AM (Zz0t1) 204
Idiot Jayapal--talking inflation, immigration and all things Trump. Someone should tell her she's at the SPLC hearing
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at June 09, 2026 11:55 AM (3ImbR) 205
153 Granted unions have outlived their usefulness, but on the flip "right-to-work states" is a retarded phrase that exceeds even the worst characterizations of the phrase "Pro-Choice".
"Right-to-Work" actually means they can fire your ass for any reason so long as they do not tell you why. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at No, that is at will employment, and it’s a 2 way street. You can be fired for any reason, or no reason (except the wrong reasons like discrimination), and you can quit for any reason, with or without notice. Right to work means you do not have to join a union even if one exists. There is no such thing as a closed shop. However, if a union exists, even if you don’t join, you are still covered by the CBA. Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 11:55 AM (OoFl2) 206
It's surprising teachers' unions push so much divisive DEI given how much it could hurt them economically.
Have you seen the constituencies of teachers' unions? Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 11:55 AM (OUMaO) 207
I refused to join a teacher’s union here in TX on general principle. There's nothing they can do about it, either. The schools are open shops in this state since 1947.
It doesn’t stop schools from breaking the bank, the blame for which I put on school districts and their taxpayer funded lobby, the Texas Association of School Boards (whose message, no matter what, is “We need more money” Posted by: Cow Demon at June 09, 2026 11:56 AM (T6aVk) 208
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 11:54 AM (/lPRQ)
You know about the cup sizes? Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:56 AM (77rzZ) 209
Right-to-Work" actually means they can fire your ass for any reason so long as they do not tell you why.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher Which incentivizes over good workers to move on... and the first place writhers. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 09, 2026 11:56 AM (IP7s4) 210
After the last ten years, who the fuck could possibly be surprised that the Senate GOP is actively blocking Trump's agenda? More to the point, who the fuck could even consider an alternative possibility?
"A lot of people have observed our blue sky, and explain that it's due to atmospheric refraction. But I wonder... could it just be a shitload of pool dye?" Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 09, 2026 11:56 AM (BI5O2) 211
Idiot Jayapal--talking inflation, immigration and all things Trump. Someone should tell her she's at the SPLC hearing
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at June 09, 2026 11:55 AM (3ImbR) Bennet did it perfectly. "Why are we talking about this? That's not my responsibility. I don't control that. Isn't this a finance hearing?" Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:57 AM (Zz0t1) 212
I was involved in some of that and that is being required by accrediting agencies, state legislatures, and administrators with enormous pressures on professors to pass their students along regardless of learning. And you never get rewarded for teaching--mainly it is for publications and grants because that reflects well on the administrators, not teaching students basics.
Posted by: whig Plus over the decline in literacy over the decades has created teachers and professors who are generally worse than their predecessors and who almost ensure that next generation of teachers and professors will be even less educated. Pretty great system if the goal is to recreate the feudal dark ages. Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 11:57 AM (glnUu) 213
My only choice was to go to a UPS Store and ship it back because "not what I wanted". Could not get hold of a human to tell them it was not worth the postage, never mind my time or yours.... so some poor guy now has a used 50 cent "cup".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 11:54 AM (/lPRQ) ~~~~~ Here's the customer service number for Amazon. It's not easy to find: 888-280-4331 Posted by: IrishEi ?! at June 09, 2026 11:57 AM (3ImbR) 214
I refused to join a teacher’s union here in TX on general principle. There's nothing they can do about it, either. The schools are open shops in this state since 1947.
It doesn’t stop schools from breaking the bank, the blame for which I put on school districts and their taxpayer funded lobby, the Texas Association of School Boards (whose message, no matter what, is “We need more money” So, you're refusing to pay your "fair share"? /sarc Posted by: Archimedes at June 09, 2026 11:58 AM (Riz8t) 215
Simple old school mafia protection racket.
The persons and details may seem complicated, but the function is very simple - Pay us or 'somebody' gonna bust you shit. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 11:48 AM (/lPRQ) Remember the old Westboro "Baptist Church" that used to do loud protests at funerals and things? It was really just one extended family and that's all they actually were. They were greatly aided and abetted by the media which loved having them as a "bad guy" to write about. The "tell" was when they started calling people having funerals and public gatherings and demanding $10,000 per event to not show up. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 09, 2026 11:58 AM (edUvp) 216
whig for Senate!
Posted by: Huck Follywood I don't have the temperament for being a Senator. It was bad enough in college faculty and committee meetings listening to endless bloviations. Most of which composed of meeting whatever administrator's resume padding projects that they wanted implemented. Almost nothing of those meetings involved improving education but rather was process management of administrative interests and activists spouting time-worn hackneyed phrases of various Commie cant like DEI crap. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:58 AM (E4rtv) 217
My late Mother taught grade one here in Canada. They put a mentally retarded child in class, full time helper there, so he could be "integrated."
That was hell for everyone. Integration? Let's play Dodgeball. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 09, 2026 11:59 AM (Sco7b) 218
Tittays........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 11:59 AM (Zz0t1) 219
How does employing the KKK stop the KKK
Posted by: ... at June 09, 2026 11:59 AM (h+FSu) 220
184 151
The Alaska yes or no on ranked choice voting IS a biggie.Without it, Murk prolly can't survive, and AK wouldn't have had that DEM Congresswoman, either. Posted by: mnw at June 09, 2026 11:51 AM (RCjYY) Murkowski will find a way with or without AK embracing a parliamentary system of government. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 09, 2026 11:59 AM (T6aVk) 221
said persons being native English-speakers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Yep. I'm sooooooo tired of the foreign accents that I can barely understand. Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:00 PM (77rzZ) 222
Remember a while back some academic idiots were pushing the idea that reading to your children at night was a form of racism because *some* kids didn't have that and it affected them academically.
Posted by: Stateless Not being a lefty progtard, I have zero intention of harming my kid's future for woke scoring points with the faggots and criminal gangs in LA. I wish more people that aren't regulars here actually understood that. Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 09, 2026 11:55 AM (QVmho) I am doing absolutely everything I can to 'cheat code' my kids as far in front of their peers as possible. We read to each other every single night. We learn about consequences and personal responsibility. We develop necessary life skills. Life is a competition and my kids are going to be as far ahead as I can get them. That's not racist - it's parenting. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 09, 2026 12:00 PM (Kdi1r) 223
Judge moving the goal posts in the KA trial.
Judge John Roach Jr. ruled on Tuesday that the jury may consider a manslaughter verdict along with murder just before final arguments begin in the Karmelo Anthony track meet stabbing trial. Here's what that means. In the case of murder, the jury must believe, beyond all reasonable doubt, that the defendant "intentionally or knowingly caused the death of another person," namely, Austin Metcalf. If the jury cannot unanimously believe that, against all reasonable doubt, they may consider a manslaughter charge. In the case of manslaughter, the jury must believe, beyond all reasonable doubt, that the defendant "recklessly caused the death of another person." https://tinyurl.com/3x79szu2 Sorry. Pig sticking someone in the heart with a knife IS intentionally & knowingly causing the death of someone. Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2026 12:00 PM (d5Hep) 224
Remember the old Westboro "Baptist Church" that used to do loud protests at funerals and things? It was really just one extended family and that's all they actually were. They were greatly aided and abetted by the media which loved having them as a "bad guy" to write about.
The "tell" was when they started calling people having funerals and public gatherings and demanding $10,000 per event to not show up. Posted by: Tom Servo ======= Fred Phelps was a lawyer (and failed Democrat political candidate) and took over the nearly defunct church, filling it with his family and cronies, some of which in turn became lawyers. It was all a sue and settle racket. At least one of the family members got out of it and wrote a book about how the racket operated. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 12:00 PM (E4rtv) 225
Westboro Baptist Church were Democrat lawyers who called themselves a church for the tax and probably propaganda advantage.
Posted by: ... at June 09, 2026 12:00 PM (h+FSu) 226
Yep. I'm sooooooo tired of the foreign accents that I can barely understand.
Posted by: Bulg I've got "English" speakers I can't make heads or tails of, so I'm with ya. Don't have the brain cells to spare any longer... Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 09, 2026 12:01 PM (OUMaO) 227
whig for Senate!
Posted by: Huck Follywood I don't have the temperament for being a Senator. It was bad enough in college faculty and committee meetings listening to endless bloviations. Posted by: whig How about game show host. Sort of the same thing but with worse cash prizes. Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 12:01 PM (glnUu) 228
Health worker unions should be illegal.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 09, 2026 11:08 AM (iJfKG) Other than me, who is the sole person responsible for my health, WTF is a “health worker”? Posted by: Cow Demon at June 09, 2026 12:01 PM (T6aVk) 229
Here's the customer service number for Amazon. It's not easy to find:
888-280-4331 Posted by: IrishEi ?! at June 09, 2026 11:57 AM (3ImbR) =========================== Noted. Thank you. Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 09, 2026 12:01 PM (mcmhv) 230
Teachers,
Thank you for a job done! Posted by: J. Peterman at June 09, 2026 12:02 PM (BnREo) 231
How does employing the KKK stop the KKK
Posted by: ... at June 09, 2026 11:59 AM (h+FSu) "Sometimes you must violate the rules of ________ to save _______." ---- -- - - -- George W. Bush Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 12:03 PM (Zz0t1) Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2026 12:03 PM (d5Hep) 233
I am doing absolutely everything I can to 'cheat code' my kids as far in front of their peers as possible. We read to each other every single night. We learn about consequences and personal responsibility. We develop necessary life skills.
Life is a competition and my kids are going to be as far ahead as I can get them. That's not racist - it's parenting. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung, DURING PRIDE MONTH IS EVIL! at June 09, 2026 12:00 PM (Kdi1r) You're actually going to teach them how to succeed instead of screaming, shaming, and hitting them when they make mistakes they didn't even know they made? You are a horrible, terrible parent! Posted by: But seriously, good for you at June 09, 2026 12:03 PM (TbWk/) 234
If one runs into my wife at a MoMe, DO NOT ask her to opine on this subject. She was involved on both sides during her career both as a instructor and then as the Executive Director for staff, instruction, transportation, ESL, Special Ed and curriculum for the District.
She is very slow to anger - except on this subject. Posted by: Tonypete at June 09, 2026 12:03 PM (jnTpz) 235
Cameras won't fix schools, only accountability will.
1) Make funding depend upon proficiency, independently verified. Not attendance. No passee, no payee. 2) Repeal universal enrollment. Mandatory to 8th grade, sure, get them to read and write. No automatic advancement either. After that, wide discretion to expel failures and disruptors. Teachers and students. Be ruthless in entering year 9 for students with a full report on their prior behavior. High school is a privilege for those who want to learn. The rest can get jobs and earn their keep. My taxes shouldn't be paying for able-bodied adults to sit around and start fights all day. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 09, 2026 12:03 PM (73/SM) 236
222 Remember a while back some academic idiots were pushing the idea that reading to your children at night was a form of racism because *some* kids didn't have that and it affected them academically.
Posted by: Stateless Not being a lefty progtard, I have zero intention of harming my kid's future for woke scoring points with the faggots and criminal gangs in LA. I wish more people that aren't regulars here actually understood that. Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 09, 2026 11:55 AM (QVmho) I am doing absolutely everything I can to 'cheat code' my kids as far in front of their peers as possible. We read to each other every single night. We learn about consequences and personal responsibility. We develop necessary life skills. Life is a competition and my kids are going to be as far ahead as I can get them. That's not racist - it's parenting. Posted by: Washington Nearsider = Upper class leftists with kids lie a lot, public virtue signalling while privately they living very different sort of lives. Childless activist ideologues want to destroy the present so their utopia can be created among the wreckage. Any good society shunts them into soul killing jobs like call centers. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 12:03 PM (E4rtv) 237
219 How does employing the KKK stop the KKK
Posted by: ... at June 09, 2026 11:59 AM (h+FSu) That's not the question, once you understand the real question, you understand all that followed. "How do we keep the money rolling in from fighting the KKK if the KKK actually dies?" Closely related to: why does Big Time wrasslin' hire both Good Guys and Bad Guys? the way the liberal crowd glommed onto it is disgusting, but it's really just a great big old school con game. They stole more money from stupid liberals than anyone else. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 09, 2026 12:04 PM (edUvp) Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2026 12:05 PM (2GVsD) 239
"So, Mrs. Tonypete, what do you think of the US education system? Tonypete told me to ask you."
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:05 PM (77rzZ) Posted by: logprof at June 09, 2026 12:06 PM (jo6FO) 241
At 31K per kid, class size should be 2.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 09, 2026 12:06 PM (n5tGW) 242
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 09, 2026 12:04 PM (edUvp)
I don't believe they were trying to stop the KKK or simply make money. I think they wanted to terrorize blacks and Jews and prod along a race war, and making money from it was a bonus. Posted by: ... at June 09, 2026 12:06 PM (h+FSu) 243
How does employing the KKK stop the KKK
Posted by: ... at June 09, 2026 11:59 AM (h+FSu) ========================== Not just employing, but enhancing, funding, aiding and abetting. Like a "gain of function" experiment on the KKK. Posted by: Anthony Fauci-Mengele, proud SPLC donor at June 09, 2026 12:06 PM (88ITP) 244
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I expected the judge in KA to instruct on Murder 2nd-- "heat of passion." I'm not familiar with the TX statute, though. Giving the Manslaughter instruction protects the record on appeal. No surprise. Murder 1 is overcharged, imo. Posted by: mnw at June 09, 2026 12:07 PM (RCjYY) 245
said persons being native English-speakers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Gators probably like drunks the best. Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:08 PM (77rzZ) 246
There's lots of ways to make money as a Demcorsr, but there's only a few ways to make sure this country has a race war. They were "coincidentally" doing one of them. Actually they're coincidentally doing ALL of them.
Posted by: ... at June 09, 2026 12:08 PM (h+FSu) 247
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Sorry. Pig sticking someone in the heart with a knife IS intentionally & knowingly causing the death of someone. Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2026 12:00 PM (d5Hep) Although I agree with your statement, that's a pretty normal jury instruction. It allows the jury to choose a lesser charge IF that's what the jury wants to do. This is thought to help prevent a hung jury if there is a holdout. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 09, 2026 12:08 PM (edUvp) 248
No, that is at will employment, and it’s a 2 way street. You can be fired for any reason, or no reason (except the wrong reasons like discrimination), and you can quit for any reason, with or without notice. Right to work means you do not have to join a union even if one exists. There is no such thing as a closed shop. However, if a union exists, even if you don’t join, you are still covered by the CBA.
Posted by: Piper I know that you cannot be forced to join a union or pay dues, but calling it "right to work" is ludicrous. Without a contract, which means a union for 99%, all work is "at will" and does not need that label. Telling anyone why they are fired is not required or recommended. "Bye" is enough. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 12:08 PM (/lPRQ) 249
But, the disruptive students have to go from regular classes for education to occur. Even one or two bad apples in a class can sour the entire atmosphere and affect the other students.
Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 11:26 AM (E4rtv) Tell me about it, and combine that with an assistant principal that is a lazy bum who refused to discipline students sent to his office. (At one point he went to my classroom to read ME the Riot Act for sending disruptive students to his office.). As the summer began he revealed his big goal was to maximize his 3 year average as a state employee so his retirement could be more cushy. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 09, 2026 12:09 PM (T6aVk) 250
I think school clubs could raise a lot of funds by setting up pay-per-view "watch parties". I saw how popular that was when students staged a beatdown at school which was filmed, uploaded, and liked more than a thousand times.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 09, 2026 12:09 PM (fxCK2) 251
I know that you cannot be forced to join a union or pay dues, but calling it "right to work" is ludicrous. Without a contract, which means a union for 99%, all work is "at will" and does not need that label. Telling anyone why they are fired is not required or recommended. "Bye" is enough. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 12:08 PM (/lPRQ) I prefer “open shop”. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 09, 2026 12:10 PM (T6aVk) 252
I don't believe they were trying to stop the KKK or simply make money. I think they wanted to terrorize blacks and Jews and prod along a race war, and making money from it was a bonus.
Posted by: ... at June 09, 2026 12:06 PM (h+FSu) I take solace in knowing that we don't have to decide their motivation - what they did was clearly illegal under any legal theory, and all the people running it should be in federal prison. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 09, 2026 12:10 PM (edUvp) 253
Murder 1 is overcharged, imo. Posted by: mnw at June 09, 2026 12:07 PM (RCjYY) Anthony woke up that morning with the intent to stab someone. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 12:10 PM (Zz0t1) 254
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Sorry. Pig sticking someone in the heart with a knife IS intentionally & knowingly causing the death of someone. Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2026 12:00 PM (d5Hep) Although I agree with your statement, that's a pretty normal jury instruction. It allows the jury to choose a lesser charge IF that's what the jury wants to do. This is thought to help prevent a hung jury if there is a holdout. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 09, 2026 12:08 PM (edUvp) __________ This. It's very common for lesser included offenses to not only be included in the indictment, but also in the jury charge. I wouldn't read anything into this. Standard practice. Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 09, 2026 12:10 PM (iFTx/) 255
The rest can get jobs and earn their keep.
My taxes shouldn't be paying for able-bodied adults to sit around and start fights all day. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice ===== It is going to take a lot of killing more sacred cows beyond what you propose to 'fix' public education. But one size fits all laws by legislators and executives while being mangled by courts has to stop. Subsidiarity is what I support as the first step and that requires basically recognizing that some of those smaller school systems will fail while others will prosper. Education is our version of Soviet Agriculture--a complex knot of problems accentuated by top down large scale centralization problems and made worse by political meddling for power and profit. So overall deregulation must occur with all the above on the table, charter schools both public and private, return to neighborhood schools in other places with less state and federal oversight, etc. etc. Some of our schools are amazing, many resemble grim preparation for prison and lives of dysfunction, some are indoctrination centers, some are lifeboats in a locale where civilization itself is lacking and parents are nowhere to be found. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 12:10 PM (E4rtv) 256
Upper class leftists with kids lie a lot, public virtue signalling while privately they living very different sort of lives. Childless activist ideologues want to destroy the present so their utopia can be created among the wreckage. Any good society shunts them into soul killing jobs like call centers.
Posted by: whig at June "Talk left, Live right" is the vast majority of upper crust leftists. Posted by: BruceWayne at June 09, 2026 12:11 PM (YZ0Fo) 257
It's nice that kids can read. Now, get them to make correct change.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 09, 2026 11:04 AM (jehhT) ---- Went to McDonalds yesterday and they no longer take pennies. Posted by: Darth Randall at June 09, 2026 12:11 PM (mseD3) 258
I think school clubs could raise a lot of funds by setting up pay-per-view "watch parties". I saw how popular that was when students staged a beatdown at school which was filmed, uploaded, and liked more than a thousand times.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 09, 2026 12:09 PM (fxCK2) Bully Beatdown was one of my favorite shows. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 12:11 PM (Zz0t1) 259
My lefty law school professor and his wife spout all sorts of progressive bullshit, but when it came to educating their kids, she ran a night school in their NYC apartment that rivalled any home schooling effort I can imagine.
Those kids had a helluva an education, thanks to her, eventually going to two Ivy schools. But it was all done while voting for and speaking in favor of the very unions she defied, and while ostensibly supporting the "public education" she secretly hated. Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 09, 2026 12:11 PM (Thw/V) 260
As the summer began he revealed his big goal was to maximize his 3 year average as a state employee so his retirement could be more cushy.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 09, 2026 12:09 PM (T6aVk) Imagine the squealiing if DOGE closed the taps on this abuse EVERYWHERE. Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 09, 2026 12:12 PM (YlWIZ) 261
Went to McDonalds yesterday and they no longer take pennies.
Posted by: Darth Randall Wegmans has signs up discouraging pennies. Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:12 PM (77rzZ) 262
I expected the judge in KA to instruct on Murder 2nd-- "heat of passion." I'm not familiar with the TX statute, though.
Giving the Manslaughter instruction protects the record on appeal. No surprise. Murder 1 is overcharged, imo. -- Note that the prosecution emphasized that he reached into his bag, unfolded the knife and elicited multiple witnesses to say the veins on his arm were bulging = tensed up ready to strike. I think they've given enough to support murder 1, premeditation to kill. The jury also knows he's refused multiple plea deals so they may be less inclined to reduce the level. IDK, we'll see soon enough. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 09, 2026 12:12 PM (73/SM) 263
If you're pissed off enough to stab a kid for talking shit, then what murder you commit *wouldn't* be in the "heat of passion?" When the guy in the back forgets your Arby's sauce, so you brain the girl at the counter with a brick? What's the standard for this sort of thing? When you're a maleducated first-order thinker with no impulse control, everything is in the heat of passion.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 09, 2026 12:12 PM (BI5O2) 264
My only choice was to go to a UPS Store and ship it back because "not what I wanted". Could not get hold of a human to tell them it was not worth the postage, never mind my time or yours.... so some poor guy now has a used 50 cent "cup".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 11:54 AM (/lPRQ) ~~~~~ Here's the customer service number for Amazon. It's not easy to find: 888-280-4331 Posted by: IrishEi ?! ==== Hindsight 20/20, I should have shipped it back in a 100 lb wooden crate. Got one lying around here somewhere... it was their shipping label. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 12:13 PM (/lPRQ) 265
Wegmans has signs up discouraging pennies. Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:12 PM (77rzZ) Then don't charge me an odd number. $0.05 increments and everything is fine. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 12:13 PM (Zz0t1) 266
Tell me about it, and combine that with an assistant principal that is a lazy bum who refused to discipline students sent to his office. (At one point he went to my classroom to read ME the Riot Act for sending disruptive students to his office.). As the summer began he revealed his big goal was to maximize his 3 year average as a state employee so his retirement could be more cushy. Posted by: Cow Demon ======= Yep. Which is why I think setting up school courts to replace lazy administrators might be a good start. A few of those students might even be saved by early intervention and punishment. Broken Windows theory by James Q Wilson can fit a whole host of societal problems. Basically, we have collectively chose this decline rather than fixing it by making hard choices early on. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 12:13 PM (E4rtv) 267
This is going to sound terrible but in light of the Austin Metcalfe murder and the increasingly feral behavior of youths of color...should there be a second look at segregated schools?
Posted by: Legitimately makes me sick to consider at June 09, 2026 12:13 PM (TbWk/) 268
Went to McDonalds yesterday and they no longer take pennies.
Posted by: Darth Randall Wegmans has signs up discouraging pennies. Posted by: Bulg San Francisco say "hold my beer": cashless shopping! Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 12:13 PM (glnUu) 269
Then don't charge me an odd number. $0.05 increments and everything is fine.
Posted by: Sponge I'm hoarding all the pennies I can find. Gotta be worth something in 20-30 years. Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:14 PM (77rzZ) 270
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Lesser included offenses: As I stated, I hope the KA judge gives an instruction for something in between Murder 1 & MaNslaughter, such as Murder 2. If the jury only has Murder 1 & Manslaughter to consider, I expect they will opt for Manslaughter. Posted by: mnw at June 09, 2026 12:14 PM (RCjYY) 271
This is going to sound terrible but in light of the Austin Metcalfe murder and the increasingly feral behavior of youths of color...should there be a second look at segregated schools?
Posted by: Legitimately makes me sick to consider at June 09, 2026 12:13 PM (TbWk/) They would love that, actually. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 12:14 PM (Zz0t1) 272
I expected the judge in KA to instruct on Murder 2nd-- "heat of passion." I'm not familiar with the TX statute, though.
Giving the Manslaughter instruction protects the record on appeal. No surprise. Murder 1 is overcharged, imo. Posted by: mnw at June 09, 2026 12:07 PM (RCjYY) Texas deals with murder charges a bit differently than other states - murder and manslaughter are just different points on a continuum, and there are both extenuating and aggravating circumstances that affect sentence. In fact in certain cases, it's possible for a manslaughter conviction to actually carry a longer sentence than a murder conviction. So there's not as big a difference between them as it first appears. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 09, 2026 12:14 PM (edUvp) 273
Remember the old Westboro "Baptist Church" that used to do loud protests at funerals and things? It was really just one extended family and that's all they actually were. They were greatly aided and abetted by the media which loved having them as a "bad guy" to write about.
The "tell" was when they started calling people having funerals and public gatherings and demanding $10,000 per event to not show up. Posted by: Tom Servo They were lawyers first. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 12:15 PM (/lPRQ) 274
Upper class leftists with kids lie a lot, public virtue signalling while privately they living very different sort of lives. Childless activist ideologues want to destroy the present so their utopia can be created among the wreckage. Any good society shunts them into soul killing jobs like call centers.
Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 12:03 PM (E4rtv) --Charles Murray in Coming Apart repeats the theme that affluent white liberals don't often "preach what they practice." Posted by: logprof at June 09, 2026 12:15 PM (jo6FO) 275
"Talk left, Live right" is the vast majority of upper crust leftists.
Posted by: BruceWayne ====== At least the ones with a kid or two. To them, it is a social marker to be left because they swallowed the codswallop at college that only leftists are smart and they only associate with leftists that preserve this bubble in where they live and where they work. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 12:16 PM (E4rtv) 276
Even in a right to work state an employer can't fire a worker for an unjust cause. The employer may find themselves in trouble. The State Labor Board law is posted in every place an employee works. The Labor Board can and will protect the employee from an unjust firing.
Posted by: Case at June 09, 2026 12:16 PM (+zXtV) 277
Wegmans has signs up discouraging pennies.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:12 PM (77rzZ) Then don't charge me an odd number. $0.05 increments and everything is fine. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 12:13 PM (Zz0t1) ---- Yep. It should not be hard to calculate prices (including tax) such that all change is in $0.05 increments. I hear computers are pretty good these days. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 09, 2026 12:16 PM (gnNyN) 278
I know that you cannot be forced to join a union or pay dues, but calling it "right to work" is ludicrous.
Without a contract, which means a union for 99%, all work is "at will" and does not need that label. Telling anyone why they are fired is not required or recommended. "Bye" is enough. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June Right to work and at will are 2 separate things, they are not the same. In fact, Montana does not default to at will. For the majority of hourly roles, even without a union, most reputable employers will default to just cause for terminations. Salary is different and exec is an entirely different kettle of fish from both. There is an overlay of severance and the role that plays in all of these positions. Do you have a specific circumstance you are concerned about? With details I can probably get you 98% closer to why something happened the way it did happen, assuming we are discussing a larger company and not Aunt Mary’s Can Collection Service with 1.5 employees. Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 12:16 PM (OoFl2) 279
Worse, HTML ampersands.
Posted by: Brother Tim The ampersand is the hardest thing to write by hand. The @ symbol is approximable with a little practice. The ampersand? B@nish the d@mn thing. Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 09, 2026 12:17 PM (W5mpo) 280
Charles Murray in Coming Apart repeats the theme that affluent white liberals don't often "preach what they practice."
Posted by: logprof ======== I taught with a lot of them in college and as Millennials started getting hired, it was much worse. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 12:17 PM (E4rtv) 281
Alfalfa was still around in 1946. He had a bit part in It's a Wonderful Life.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:20 AM (77rzZ) Also a small part in The High And The Mighty in 1954. Carl Switzer died in '59. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 09, 2026 12:18 PM (5xuJ/) 282
It doesn’t help blue states posting articles like this because they can’t read. Maybe adding a simple picture would help them. Don’t use the less spending = better reading in MS because that involves math. Just joking libs.
Posted by: High tech at June 09, 2026 12:18 PM (37cEZ) 283
"the skills necessary to teach children are not particularly rare or difficult to train"
In a disciplined environment, with an excellent curriculum, probably so. But not without those. Posted by: gp at June 09, 2026 12:18 PM (Jr5Lq) 284
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Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 12:19 PM (Zz0t1) 285
267 This is going to sound terrible but in light of the Austin Metcalfe murder and the increasingly feral behavior of youths of color...should there be a second look at segregated schools?
Posted by: Legitimately makes me sick to consider at June 09, 2026 12:13 PM (TbWk/) Here's the big secret hiding out in plain sight - we already have an extremely segregated school system. It's just that we now segregate by economic status and religious affiliation, and use that as a proxy for any other kind. As my wife and I were discussing last night, the fallout from the bussing crisis of the early 70's destroyed public education as a mass market option. Sadly, in many places (especially big cities) public school is just free day care for the children of drug addicts and welfare queens. Posted by: Tom Servo at June 09, 2026 12:19 PM (edUvp) 286
It doesn’t help blue states posting articles like this because they can’t read. Maybe adding a simple picture would help them. Don’t use the less spending = better reading in MS because that involves math. Just joking libs.
Posted by: High tech at June 09, 2026 12:18 PM (37cEZ) TJM hardest hit. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 12:19 PM (Zz0t1) 287
When writing I make my ampersands like an upside down 4.
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 09, 2026 12:20 PM (YZ0Fo) 288
This is going to sound terrible but in light of the Austin Metcalfe murder and the increasingly feral behavior of youths of color...should there be a second look at segregated schools?
Posted by: Legitimately makes me sick to consider It is happening anyway. Few whites are in most urban school districts anymore and that trend is beginning to affect suburbs, especially the older inner ones. Simply not enough whites anymore for even ridiculous busing or other attempts to lure them in anymore. And since minorities are now running these large school systems with control over jobs, money, etc., they don't really care nor want attentive parents of any color. Same as most HBCUs nowadays. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 12:20 PM (E4rtv) Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 09, 2026 12:21 PM (Sco7b) 290
IIRC, in TX, murder 1 is basically planning to kill. But that doesn't require like a hitlist and stalking over days. More of a "had a moment to reflect and reroute, went ahead into the kill anyway" thing.
Murder 2 is heat of moment, like, walk in on your wife getting railed and cap them both with no hesitation. Manslaughter is everything else. But, I think they have aggravated manslaughter? I think they have 'Melo solid on murder 1. Asked to leave multiple times. Kept bowing up on everyone--even when told "i'm not going to fight you." Kept antagonizing everyone, "pussies" "bitch". Secretly opened knife and held it hidden in his hand. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 09, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM) 291
276 Even in a right to work state an employer can't fire a worker for an unjust cause. The employer may find themselves in trouble. The State Labor Board law is posted in every place an employee works. The Labor Board can and will protect the employee from an unjust firing.
Posted by: Case at June 09, 2026 12:16 PM (+zXtV) They can fire you for no reason, but not the wrong reasons, like I said earlier. But just cause is a labor relations term, not an employee relations term. I can’t fire you because you are Christian. I can fire you because I can’t afford you. I can’t fire you because you are 54, or 23. I can fire you because you badmouthed my company on Instagram. If we are going through a termination for cause, which is maybe what you mean, then the process may look very like a just cause scenario. Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 12:21 PM (OoFl2) 292
Yep. It should not be hard to calculate prices (including tax) such that all change is in $0.05 increments.
I hear computers are pretty good these days. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel Especially when you get to set prices. If you know .88 cents will equal $1 with tax, why do you set your price at .94 cents? Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2026 12:21 PM (d5Hep) 293
Especially when you get to set prices. If you know .88 cents will equal $1 with tax, why do you set your price at .94 cents?
Posted by: rickb223 at This seems suspiciously close to math. Posted by: BruceWayne at June 09, 2026 12:23 PM (YZ0Fo) 294
I can fire you because I can’t afford you. I can’t fire you because you are 54, or 23. I can fire you because you badmouthed my company on Instagram. If we are going through a termination for cause, which is maybe what you mean, then the process may look very like a just cause scenario.
Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 12:21 PM (OoFl2) Zombie Piper seems a bitch to work for.........Fire fire fire......Geez. Lighten up. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 12:23 PM (Zz0t1) 295
"This is going to sound terrible but in light of the Austin Metcalfe murder and the increasingly feral behavior of youths of color...should there be a second look at segregated schools?"
People self-segregate to the extent that govt allows them to. There should be a first look (not a second) at crushing the feral behavior of 'youths' wherever and whenever it arises. That should be the main priority. Posted by: gp at June 09, 2026 12:23 PM (Jr5Lq) 296
Make it easy on the cashier.
If your bill is $7.82. Give them $13.07. Posted by: Stateless I have tried this. The "cashier" often glitches and then reboots. It is just not worth the effort. Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 12:23 PM (glnUu) 297
293 Especially when you get to set prices. If you know .88 cents will equal $1 with tax, why do you set your price at .94 cents?
Posted by: rickb223 at This seems suspiciously close to math. Posted by: BruceWayne at June 09, 2026 12:23 PM (YZ0Fo) And dat maff ain't maffin', mmm hmmm! *three snaps and a head wobble* Posted by: Jasmine Ratchet at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM (TbWk/) 298
I my former life as a corporate paralegal, I saw a LOT of NLRB complaints. Most of them looked like BS to me.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM (77rzZ) 299
By the way, the 23 year old can’t claim age discrimination- you have to be over 40 for that and if the decision makers terming you are also over 40, you probably won’t get far on a claim. Unless and of course there is a huge layoff and everyone who loses their job is over 40 - then we have disparate impact issues.
Hmmm. Maybe I should pick up a consulting job, I sometimes miss my old world. Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM (OoFl2) 300
Even in a right to work state an employer can't fire a worker for an unjust cause. The employer may find themselves in trouble. The State Labor Board law is posted in every place an employee works. The Labor Board can and will protect the employee from an unjust firing.
Posted by: Case at June 09, 2026 12:16 PM (+zXtV) They can fire you for no reason, but not the wrong reasons, like I said earlier. But just cause is a labor relations term, not an employee relations term. I can’t fire you because you are Christian. I can fire you because I can’t afford you. I can’t fire you because you are 54, or 23. I can fire you because you badmouthed my company on Instagram. If we are going through a termination for cause, which is maybe what you mean, then the process may look very like a just cause scenario. Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 12:21 PM (OoFl2) _____ What if I have a Nazi tattoo and like anal rape? Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM (iFTx/) 301
283 "the skills necessary to teach children are not particularly rare or difficult to train"
In a disciplined environment, with an excellent curriculum, probably so. But not without those. Posted by: gp ====== It is a lot more difficult than it appears from the outside. It is a lot harder when many of our worst students on college campuses go into education. The whole system degrades and stymies the professional teacher that actually wants to educate students and ironically, it is a lot more common for childless leftist women to be enthusiastic about it in order to indoctrinate their students than for those on the right to do the same. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM (E4rtv) 302
For y’all discussing pennies, look north to Canada. They killed the penny officially on May 4, 2012. Now, if whatever item you buy ends with uneven numbers, they round up or down the price accordingly to accommodate the nickels. I see the same thing happening here if it hasn’t already.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM (T6aVk) 303
have tried this. The "cashier" often glitches and then reboots. It is just not worth the effort.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram Just did this at universal studios. And the cashier just handed back the "extra money". Posted by: BruceWayne at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM (YZ0Fo) 304
I expected the judge in KA to instruct on Murder 2nd-- "heat of passion." I'm not familiar with the TX statute, though.
Giving the Manslaughter instruction protects the record on appeal. No surprise. Murder 1 is overcharged, imo. Posted by: mnw ===== I'd go for heat of passion whatever if it carried more severe penalties than premeditated. Say, death penalty ASAP and only that. Some nut that flips out for no apparent reason and up and kills people is far more evil than one who contemplates their actions. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 12:25 PM (/lPRQ) 305
"freedom of association" means you must have minorities in your kid's school or you're a racist since the Civil Rights Acts were secret Super-Constitutional Amendments, donchaknow?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 09, 2026 12:25 PM (73/SM) 306
I have tried this. The "cashier" often glitches and then reboots. It is just not worth the effort.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram You really want to glitch them? Hand them a pack of chicken legs and ask them if they're front or back legs. Posted by: rickb223 at June 09, 2026 12:25 PM (d5Hep) 307
298 I my former life as a corporate paralegal, I saw a LOT of NLRB complaints. Most of them looked like BS to me.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM (77rzZ In my old life as VP of Labor and Employee Relations I answered a lot of those. I never lost one. Woot! Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 12:25 PM (OoFl2) 308
And since minorities are now running these large school systems with control over jobs, money, etc., they don't really care nor want attentive parents of any color. Same as most HBCUs nowadays.
Posted by: whig Sounds like you have studied the Seattle Public Skools. Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 12:25 PM (glnUu) 309
What if I have a Nazi tattoo and like anal rape?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM (iFTx Serve your special guests HelloFresh. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 09, 2026 12:25 PM (Sco7b) 310
Just found on YouTube Doctor Zhivago
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 09, 2026 12:25 PM (2GVsD) 311
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I hope you're right, but... I doubt it. Murder 1 "cool reflection for a period of time, however brief." It wasn't "cool reflection." Posted by: mnw at June 09, 2026 12:26 PM (RCjYY) 312
My city just allowed everyone to chose what school their kids go to. Which is cool because my grands live a block from one school but are supposed to be bussed half way across town to the another one.
We'll see how this turns out. I'd bet 2 schools get nobody. Posted by: Reforger at June 09, 2026 12:26 PM (ZxzYs) 313
What if I have a Nazi tattoo and like anal rape? Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM Fired but with severance that includes a waiver and release. 😊 Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 12:27 PM (OoFl2) 314
In my old life as VP of Labor and Employee Relations I answered a lot of those. I never lost one. Woot!
Posted by: Piper Excellent! Good for you! Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:27 PM (77rzZ) 315
I joined the ALPA back in the day. Didn't really have a choice. Not joining would've led to "complications" in the work environment. Similar to not joining the Teamsters of UAW, if you get my drift.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 09, 2026 12:27 PM (J4Dwc) 316
I'd go for heat of passion whatever if it carried more severe penalties than premeditated. Say, death penalty ASAP and only that.
--- Yeah I think, since the max on either 1 or 2 for KA is life, they go with maybe 2? I think death penalty is only in the cards for murder 1 but he's not eligible since he's a minor. Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 09, 2026 12:27 PM (73/SM) 317
*or
Posted by: one hour sober at June 09, 2026 12:27 PM (J4Dwc) 318
Another foreign invader colonist stabbing a white man in Belfast. Two-Tier Starmer says "isolated incident".
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 09, 2026 12:28 PM (n5tGW) 319
309 What if I have a Nazi tattoo and like anal rape?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 09, 2026 12:24 PM (iFTx Serve your special guests HelloFresh. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 09, 2026 12:25 PM (Sco7b) And buy and hold Gilead Sciences pharma. Posted by: Enemas and TRUVADA for PrEP and prep at June 09, 2026 12:28 PM (TbWk/) 320
I think death penalty is only in the cards for murder 1 but he's not eligible since he's a minor.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice Was a minor. He'll be eligible when he shanks someone in prison in 2 months. Posted by: BruceWayne at June 09, 2026 12:28 PM (YZ0Fo) 321
I dealt blackjack here in Canada.
So, of course I was represented by the Canadian autoworkers union. Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 09, 2026 12:29 PM (Sco7b) 322
Honestly, as a parent, I'd rather my son were a school shooter or serial killer than a Karmelo. At least "he was mentally ill or possessed by a demon" is a cope.
It's gotta suck knowing your son you raised is a worthless, morally bankrupt fuckup. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 09, 2026 12:29 PM (BI5O2) 323
Nood
Posted by: Reforger at June 09, 2026 12:29 PM (ZxzYs) 324
318 Another foreign invader colonist stabbing a white man in Belfast. Two-Tier Starmer says "isolated incident".
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 09, 2026 12 It wasn’t a stabbing. It was an attempted beheading. Posted by: Piper at June 09, 2026 12:30 PM (OoFl2) 325
For y’all discussing pennies, look north to Canada. They killed the penny officially on May 4, 2012. Now, if whatever item you buy ends with uneven numbers, they round up or down the price accordingly to accommodate the nickels. I see the same thing happening here if it hasn’t already. Posted by: Cow Demon It IS happening here (IN). I've received a nickel back in change when it should have been three pennies. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 09, 2026 12:30 PM (Cqx++) 326
318 Another foreign invader colonist stabbing a white man in Belfast. Two-Tier Starmer says "isolated incident".
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 09, 2026 12:28 PM (n5tGW) I can’t imagine that going down well in Belfast. That may well repair the breach between Catholics and Protestants there as they suddenly find they have a common enemy. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 09, 2026 12:30 PM (T6aVk) Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:30 PM (77rzZ) 328
Another foreign invader colonist stabbing a white man in Belfast. Two-Tier Starmer says "isolated incident".
There's full video. He's sawing at the guy's neck with a knife going for the full ululululululululu before some bystanders start whacking the Somali in the head with an Irish hurley. And then some woman screams to leave the precious diversity alone because the cops have arrived. Posted by: Ian S. at June 09, 2026 12:31 PM (2ocoG) 329
It IS happening here (IN). I've received a nickel back in change when it should have been three pennies.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 09, 2026 12:30 PM (Cqx++) I suspected as much. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 09, 2026 12:31 PM (T6aVk) 330
Nevermind. I tarded.
Posted by: Reforger at June 09, 2026 12:31 PM (ZxzYs) 331
It IS happening here (IN). I've received a nickel back in change when it should have been three pennies.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 09, 2026 12:30 PM (Cqx++) Chad Kroeger approves. Posted by: Wherever he is... at June 09, 2026 12:31 PM (TbWk/) 332
Chad Kroeger approves.
Posted by: Wherever he is... at June 09, 2026 12:31 PM (TbWk/) Probably looking at a photograph. Posted by: BruceWayne at June 09, 2026 12:32 PM (YZ0Fo) 333
Nude filthy beheaders
Posted by: Elric The Blade at June 09, 2026 12:32 PM (iFTx/) 334
I have a penny collection I need to fill out. Indian Heads.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 09, 2026 12:32 PM (BI5O2) 335
Now there's a NOOD.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 12:33 PM (77rzZ) 336
NOODlum.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 09, 2026 12:33 PM (Zz0t1) 337
And then some woman screams to leave the precious diversity alone because the cops have arrived.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 09, 2026 12:31 PM (2ocoG) Orwell was right. Posted by: It was always the women... at June 09, 2026 12:33 PM (TbWk/) 338
It IS happening here (IN). I've received a nickel back in change when it should have been three pennies.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. Eventually this will result in handling and subscription fees being added that will round up $1.27 bill, for example, to $5.00. "Its not the decimal that counts, its the experience." Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at June 09, 2026 12:35 PM (glnUu) 339
152 And it's always good to hear that folks are having babies.
Posted by: Bulg at June 09, 2026 11:45 AM (77rzZ) You know you're on the right side when they're pro-baby. It shouldn't even be controversial, but that's where we are. I'm going to keep on saying it. Get your Leftist friend, that you think is a good person, to openly oppose the Georgia Guidestones. They can't. Either they support killing 94% of humans, or they're afraid to say they don't, which is telling in itself. Posted by: SciVo at June 09, 2026 12:35 PM (Sy6m/) 340
Murder 1 "cool reflection for a period of time, however brief." It wasn't "cool reflection."
Posted by: mnw ====== That can be as long or as short as the jury thinks it should be. And I doubt the judge is going to step in and save Karmelo's butt here. But, bringing a knife to a forbidden location of a public track meet at a school indicates willingness to illegally use force and preplanning by concealment makes it worse. Refusal to leave a private tent makes it more so. In closing, it is pretty easy to make the argument for the prosecutor that we are here today for repeated chain of evil decisions by Karmelo that led up to the murder. This was no barfight, no heat of the moment passion, but a predetermined willingness and planning to bring a lethal weapon to a peaceful event held where weapons are illegal, provoke a conflict, escalate the conflict, refuse to leave while trespassing, and then stabbing someone in the heart, not arms, legs, stomach, etc. but intentionally lethal to kill someone. Any of the other evidence that Karmelo sought to bring in is evidence of sentence mitigation, not whether or not he is guilty of the charge. Posted by: whig at June 09, 2026 12:35 PM (E4rtv) 341
Do you have a specific circumstance you are concerned about? With details I can probably get you 98% closer to why something happened the way it did happen, assuming we are discussing a larger company and not Aunt Mary’s Can Collection Service with 1.5 employees.
Posted by: Piper Nothing specific. "Services no longer needed" / "Bye" is the only way unless an employer really really wants to stick it to someone "for cause" like theft. There is no "right to work" that by law requires that an employee cannot he terminated except for some "cause". And if, services no longer needed is enough. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 12:37 PM (/lPRQ) 342
All boys high school. All male teachers also. Except for one female spanish teacher. She was in her late thirties. Objectively not hot. Hispanic, so curvy. Wore dresses and heels every day. Nails painted. Lipstick. Class was 50 minutes long. She seemed to drop things frequently. Never not turgid in that class. She was having as good a time as we were.
Posted by: 15 once and never again at June 09, 2026 12:38 PM (anL5R) 343
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I said unjust cause. If my employer tells me they can't afford to pay me that would be a just cause. Because I'm not working for free. But if they say I'm not doing my job when I am doing my job that is unjust and if I have been giving them problem they better have some paperwork showing a write up or bad attendance or something. Posted by: Case at June 09, 2026 12:41 PM (+zXtV) 344
In closing, it is pretty easy to make the argument for the prosecutor that we are here today for repeated chain of evil decisions by Karmelo that led up to the murder. This was no barfight, no heat of the moment passion, but a predetermined willingness and planning to bring a lethal weapon to a peaceful event held where weapons are illegal, provoke a conflict, escalate the conflict, refuse to leave while trespassing, and then stabbing someone in the heart, not arms, legs, stomach, etc. but intentionally lethal to kill someone.
== Except the knife was not illegal. It isn't prohibited in Texas to bring a knife into the stadium either. It is against the school rules however. I read some of the summaries of the witness testimony. The kid that got stabbed sounded like he was being a dick. A bigger kid and aggressive. The stabby kid was invited into the tent by a team member and was minding his own business when the Kid that got stabbed told him to get out. A discussion took place where stabber kid said nobody else has a problem with me being here except you. Also testimony said common at track meets for the athletes to mingle and visit each other's tents. Posted by: I dunno it probably a tougher call than this blog makes it sound at June 09, 2026 12:45 PM (anL5R) 345
342 All boys high school. All male teachers also. Except for one female spanish teacher. She was in her late thirties. Objectively not hot. Hispanic, so curvy.
Posted by: 15 once and never again at June 09, 2026 12:38 PM (anL5R) Fat. Posted by: Cow Demon at June 09, 2026 12:47 PM (T6aVk) 346
The stabby kid was invited into the tent by a team member and was minding his own business when the Kid that got stabbed told him to get out. A discussion took place where stabber kid said nobody else has a problem with me being here except you. Also testimony said common at track meets for the athletes to mingle and visit each other's tents.
Posted by: I dunno it probably a tougher call than this blog makes it sound He was a house guest.... Ummmm, ok. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 09, 2026 12:48 PM (/lPRQ) 347
All boys high school. All male teachers also. Except for one female spanish teacher. She was in her late thirties. Objectively not hot. Hispanic, so curvy.
Posted by: 15 once and never again at June 09, 2026 12:38 PM (anL5R) Fat. == Yup. Still had us drooling. You spend all day with a bunch of stinking dudes and you appreciate a lady who is enjoying the attention. Even if she is middle aged and has a big butt. Posted by: I dunno it probably a tougher call than this blog makes it sound at June 09, 2026 12:51 PM (anL5R) Processing 0.07, elapsed 0.0689 seconds. |
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