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Wednesday Morning Rant
Iranian citizens gathered on the White Bridge in Ahvaz, forming a human chain to protect key infrastructure amid US-Israel threats, stressing that attacks on civilian facilities are widely regarded as violations of international law.Civilian-led? Place your bets. The Hill:
A video shared by the Consulate General of the Islamic Republic of Iran in Mumbai highlighted the civilian-led effort, underscoring that ordinary Iranians do not want to see their country’s infrastructure damaged in the escalating conflict.
Iranian officials on Tuesday urged their people to form human chains around power plants as the country faces a deadline set by President Trump to reopen the Strait of Hormuz or risk major strikes on civilian and energy infrastructure. The regime called on "all young people, athletes, artists, students and university students and their professors" to protect power plants threatened by Trump, according to The Associated Press. "Power plants that are our national assets and capital," Alireza Rahimi, identified by Iranian state television as the secretary of the Supreme Council of Youth and Adolescents, reportedly said in a video statement.Go collect your winnings. I guess the Supreme Council of Youth and Adolescents isn't the IRGC and so is "civilian" but this ain't exactly the grassroots movement that Consulate General implied. That video, assuming it's real, is available on X. This is an altogether typical play by what's left of the Iranian government to slaughter young people in order to then cry crocodile tears in the "international community" while their fifth column calls Trump and our soldiers, sailors and airmen a bunch of diabolical baby-killers. They always do this. That isn't all Iran is threatening and staging. Per the Jerusalem Post, Iran is also threatening retaliation:
Iran has also signaled that any attack on its energy network could trigger retaliation against civilian infrastructure elsewhere in the region. Previous reports said Iranian and IRGC officials had warned that if Iran’s fuel and energy facilities were hit, Tehran could target Israeli power plants, gas rigs, desalination systems, and other strategic civilian sites.They will surely try, though Iran's recent efficacy has not been particularly great and hopefully will remain that way. But that is beside the point. Even if Iran has the capability to effectively retaliate, the state-sponsored sacrifice of Iranians would still happen. This is what Islamists do. They do it by choice even in the face of alternatives. It is the preferred tactic, not a desperation move. There is a reason they store and manufacture arms in hospitals and mosques and schools, and use the same as operational bases. They love ensuring that their own will die during their glorious jihad. There is much in it for them, after all. Dead kids rile people up and so long as they can successfully blame the enemy for the death and deflect away from their own culpability, it's a powerful tool on the homefront. It also, crucially, is a powerful tool for their fifth columns to use. You can be sure the pre-printed signs about Trump and Hegseth's war crimes for targeting civilians are already staged and ready to go, and countless column-inches about their evil are already written. It's as predictable as the sunrise. The blame for the coming civilian casualties will almost entirely rest with the regime, just as it does for Hamas and Hezbollah and the Taliban and all the rest - but the propaganda blitz to come will likely be a thing to behold. It's the real point. It's why, despicable and cynical as it is, the Islamists' love of human shields is entirely predictable and wholly typical.
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Munkey!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2026 11:00 AM (bFu5X)
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MONKEY!
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 08, 2026 11:01 AM (XHO5P)
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blade nailing a FIRST early in the morning
Posted by: Elric The Blade at April 08, 2026 11:01 AM (iFTx/)
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The Others have been summoned.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2026 11:02 AM (bFu5X)
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IMHO, Trump was never going to attack civilians.
Making the enemy think he might, however, is "The Art of the Deal."
Making the enemy think he might, however, is "The Art of the Deal."
Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 08, 2026 11:02 AM (qFwJc)
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Blade, like SMOD, always disappoints.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 08, 2026 11:02 AM (qFwJc)
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Somebody blinked .. Not sure which one yet...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:02 AM (FtULh)
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The regime called on "all young people, athletes, artists, students and university students and their professors" to protect power plants threatened by Trump, according to The Associated Press.
This is odd. Why not just issue a blanket invitation (or more likely, order) for EVERYONE to come on down! I mean, it's true that some in America might welcome selective extermination of the professorial class, but I don't know if Iran's professors are as obtuse and corrupt as ours.
This is odd. Why not just issue a blanket invitation (or more likely, order) for EVERYONE to come on down! I mean, it's true that some in America might welcome selective extermination of the professorial class, but I don't know if Iran's professors are as obtuse and corrupt as ours.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)
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Repeat after me - we have not lost, we have not lost, we have not lost. Sheesh!
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:05 AM (pDt9x)
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Trump did not want to destroy iran he simply ran out of options to force them into negotiations. Would he have carried through on his threats if they did not come to the table, I suspect he would have. And I am willing to bet that all of our forces in that area had the strike packages loaded and ready to go.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2026 11:05 AM (0N4FZ)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2026 11:06 AM (ExV1e)
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Somebody blinked .. Not sure which one yet...
We don't know, and anyone who says they do is selling something. However, based only on their respective track records, I'd say it wasn't Trump who blinked.
We don't know, and anyone who says they do is selling something. However, based only on their respective track records, I'd say it wasn't Trump who blinked.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:06 AM (Riz8t)
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Hamas, Hezbollah, the Taliban and IRGC all have the same "tell" when it comes to asymmetrical warfare tactics. I wonder how that came to be and also to be so pervasive? Hmm.
* strokes beard thoughtfully *
Hamas, Hezbollah, the Taliban and IRGC all have the same "tell" when it comes to asymmetrical warfare tactics. I wonder how that came to be and also to be so pervasive? Hmm.
* strokes beard thoughtfully *
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2026 11:07 AM (q/Jc0)
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We don't know, and anyone who says they do is selling something. However, based only on their respective track records, I'd say it wasn't Trump who blinked.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:06 AM (Riz8t)
I'd like to think so
We don't know, and anyone who says they do is selling something. However, based only on their respective track records, I'd say it wasn't Trump who blinked.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:06 AM (Riz8t)
I'd like to think so
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:07 AM (FtULh)
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What to do? Our dead children or their dead children?
Posted by: kingsman at April 08, 2026 11:07 AM (ehY6c)
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It’s a tough world.
Posted by: Eromero at April 08, 2026 11:07 AM (rR03l)
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Trump did not want to destroy iran he simply ran out of options to force them into negotiations. Would he have carried through on his threats if they did not come to the table, I suspect he would have. And I am willing to bet that all of our forces in that area had the strike packages loaded and ready to go.
I don't understand your comment. You say he ran out of options, and then list the options he was preparing to employ.
Nobody really thought he was going to end the Persian civilization, but taking out things like power plants is an *ahem* power move.
I don't understand your comment. You say he ran out of options, and then list the options he was preparing to employ.
Nobody really thought he was going to end the Persian civilization, but taking out things like power plants is an *ahem* power move.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:08 AM (Riz8t)
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Somebody blinked .. Not sure which one yet...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:02 AM
Ditto.
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:02 AM
Ditto.
Posted by: toby928(c) at April 08, 2026 11:08 AM (4NO2D)
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Joe, Ace, someone!!! Help me understand what I was watching last night, live, on Tousi TV.
Iran was sending missiles and cluster bombs to Israel. Sirens blaring in Tel Aviv and other areas. After patience for a few hours, Israel sent in air strikes to Tehran and other parts of Iran.
Iran also sent gifts of missiles to Saudi, UAE and, oddly, Iraq (near the US Embassy).
Yemen tried to join Iran and sent some duds to Israel.
Yet NO mention of this I can find in the MSM this morning, and I thought there would be. I reckon the USA has cease firings but Israel has not...and I don't blame them. I hope they flatten Iran.
Is the idea, now, to let the ME finish the job? I am so confused but won't lose any sleep over it.
Iran was sending missiles and cluster bombs to Israel. Sirens blaring in Tel Aviv and other areas. After patience for a few hours, Israel sent in air strikes to Tehran and other parts of Iran.
Iran also sent gifts of missiles to Saudi, UAE and, oddly, Iraq (near the US Embassy).
Yemen tried to join Iran and sent some duds to Israel.
Yet NO mention of this I can find in the MSM this morning, and I thought there would be. I reckon the USA has cease firings but Israel has not...and I don't blame them. I hope they flatten Iran.
Is the idea, now, to let the ME finish the job? I am so confused but won't lose any sleep over it.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 11:08 AM (WONhk)
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I think we're in a "tactical pause" right now. Several thousand Marines are still on their way to the Middle East on two MEU's. If Iran (the IRGC in reality) fucks around, they're going to find out in a hurry that was a huge mistake.
They'll be able to secure both the Hormuz and, if directed, take Kharg Island. The "whack-a-mole" horseshit with the IRGC will end up being the bigger issue to resolve... IMO. But, yes, if the IRGC is as recalcitrant as I think they are, there will be American Soldiers on the ground in Iran.
They'll be able to secure both the Hormuz and, if directed, take Kharg Island. The "whack-a-mole" horseshit with the IRGC will end up being the bigger issue to resolve... IMO. But, yes, if the IRGC is as recalcitrant as I think they are, there will be American Soldiers on the ground in Iran.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2026 11:08 AM (AkEZC)
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We don't know, and anyone who says they do is selling something. However, based only on their respective track records, I'd say it wasn't Trump who blinked.
Agreed. Either whoever thinks they're in charge now blinked or it's taquiyya, although I'm not sure what good that will do them. Basically nothing's getting into Iran without CENTCOM or IDF seeing it.
Agreed. Either whoever thinks they're in charge now blinked or it's taquiyya, although I'm not sure what good that will do them. Basically nothing's getting into Iran without CENTCOM or IDF seeing it.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2026 11:08 AM (2ocoG)
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We tore up all their stuff with a handful of KIA.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:08 AM (pDt9x)
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Good, I was wondering how Mannix was.
I was ticked about the ceasefire too. But news and commentators have pointed out enough potential upsides that I'm hope and believing this is Trump playing 5 -D chess.
Oil is down as ace pointed out
Time for ME countries to protect infrastructure
Who knows about revolution actions
Someone else here pointed out we can see if anyone in Iran is in charge.
Countries can up oil production for round 2.
We get a chance to get more weapons to the area.
We can see if the Europeans actually do something to protect the strait or see if they are completely useless.
We'll see. I'll save the chocolate.
I was ticked about the ceasefire too. But news and commentators have pointed out enough potential upsides that I'm hope and believing this is Trump playing 5 -D chess.
Oil is down as ace pointed out
Time for ME countries to protect infrastructure
Who knows about revolution actions
Someone else here pointed out we can see if anyone in Iran is in charge.
Countries can up oil production for round 2.
We get a chance to get more weapons to the area.
We can see if the Europeans actually do something to protect the strait or see if they are completely useless.
We'll see. I'll save the chocolate.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 08, 2026 11:08 AM (Sco7b)
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I'm so sick and tired of hearing about Iranian "civilians" and the Gaza "civilians" before them. Fuck them. Do I wish their governments weren't repressive bestiality fetishists? Yes. I do. I also wish I had a pet dragon.
The USA owes these people nothing. Nada. Zilch. Dick. Whatever relationship they have with their own government, that's on them. Not my circus, not my monkeys. Yet we carry on endlessly about these people.
We better hope we never go to war against a pier military (assuming there is any left). Our squeamish simping over enemy "civilians" will be our undoing. We might have all the military superiority in the world, but we seem to care more about foreign enemy "civilians" than we do our own troops. We will never win a pier war like that.
The USA owes these people nothing. Nada. Zilch. Dick. Whatever relationship they have with their own government, that's on them. Not my circus, not my monkeys. Yet we carry on endlessly about these people.
We better hope we never go to war against a pier military (assuming there is any left). Our squeamish simping over enemy "civilians" will be our undoing. We might have all the military superiority in the world, but we seem to care more about foreign enemy "civilians" than we do our own troops. We will never win a pier war like that.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at April 08, 2026 11:09 AM (iFTx/)
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Trump can certainly spell and sell deception plan.
Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2026 11:09 AM (FhXTo)
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Hamas, Hezbollah, the Taliban and IRGC all have the same "tell" when it comes to asymmetrical warfare tactics. I wonder how that came to be and also to be so pervasive? Hmm.
* strokes beard thoughtfully *
Their tell is that the worse their situation, the more lurid the rhetoric. Or, as Humphrey Bogart once said, "the cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter."
* strokes beard thoughtfully *
Their tell is that the worse their situation, the more lurid the rhetoric. Or, as Humphrey Bogart once said, "the cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter."
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
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Yet NO mention of this I can find in the MSM this morning, and I thought there would be. I reckon the USA has cease firings but Israel has not...and I don't blame them. I hope they flatten Iran.
As I said 4 times on the previous thread, Hegseth and Cain were asked about this by MSM this morning. They said Iran's communications systems have been obliterated and they have to tell the missile crews to stand down "by carrier pigeon", to quote Hegseth.
As I said 4 times on the previous thread, Hegseth and Cain were asked about this by MSM this morning. They said Iran's communications systems have been obliterated and they have to tell the missile crews to stand down "by carrier pigeon", to quote Hegseth.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2026 11:10 AM (2ocoG)
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Is the idea, now, to let the ME finish the job? I am so confused but won't lose any sleep over it.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
The MSM are not honest brokers of the news, or anything else.
Is the idea, now, to let the ME finish the job? I am so confused but won't lose any sleep over it.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
The MSM are not honest brokers of the news, or anything else.
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2026 11:10 AM (q/Jc0)
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When did Barnes go around the bend... and start talking to Alex Jones?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2026 11:11 AM (XMJOM)
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Thx Joe. All of the Iranian negotiations are simply another extension of war by the Iranians. They may to something but they ain't following through
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2026 11:11 AM (19SAM)
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As I said 4 times on the previous thread, Hegseth and Cain were asked about this by MSM this morning. They said Iran's communications systems have been obliterated and they have to tell the missile crews to stand down "by carrier pigeon", to quote Hegseth.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2026 11:10 AM (2ocoG)
How long ae they gonna give them... Two weeks ?
Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2026 11:10 AM (2ocoG)
How long ae they gonna give them... Two weeks ?
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:11 AM (FtULh)
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We better hope we never go to war against a pier military (assuming there is any left).
Why, will they dock our pay?
Why, will they dock our pay?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:11 AM (Riz8t)
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I'm sure that the protests to protect the bridges was done out of love for the mullahs and no coercion was involved-why are you people laughing?
Posted by: NR Pax at April 08, 2026 11:12 AM (BpO1e)
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We better hope we never go to war against a pier military (assuming there is any left).
Why, will they dock our pay?
I'd hate to think we have a mole.
Why, will they dock our pay?
I'd hate to think we have a mole.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:13 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Oh, no... at April 08, 2026 11:13 AM (2Ez/1)
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Trump did not want to destroy iran he simply ran out of options to force them into negotiations.
Trump's biggest issue is that the government consists of Democrats, who're his enemy, Republicans, who're are - at best - weak sisters looking for an opportunity to piss away an opportunity, and members of both groups being paid to support Iran.
Time was his enemy and Iran knew that.
Trump's biggest issue is that the government consists of Democrats, who're his enemy, Republicans, who're are - at best - weak sisters looking for an opportunity to piss away an opportunity, and members of both groups being paid to support Iran.
Time was his enemy and Iran knew that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2026 11:13 AM (ExV1e)
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repressive bestiality fetishists?
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This sounds like something Pete and Barry would like.
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This sounds like something Pete and Barry would like.
Posted by: pudinhead at April 08, 2026 11:13 AM (n17eQ)
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How long ae they gonna give them... Two weeks ?
No idea, but it's worth noting that past Iranian cease fires when their government was still in existence still took around 24 hours to propagate down the chain of command.
No idea, but it's worth noting that past Iranian cease fires when their government was still in existence still took around 24 hours to propagate down the chain of command.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2026 11:13 AM (2ocoG)
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They said Iran's communications systems have been obliterated and they have to tell the missile crews to stand down "by carrier pigeon", to quote Hegseth.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2026 11:10 AM (2ocoG)
So the crazy Iranians firing missiles are similar to the Japanese guy found hiding in a cave decades after WWII ended?
Wild. When Iraq was hit and burning, and with the excited jibber jabber, it seemed a big surprise. Saudi is po'd along with the UAE.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 08, 2026 11:10 AM (2ocoG)
So the crazy Iranians firing missiles are similar to the Japanese guy found hiding in a cave decades after WWII ended?
Wild. When Iraq was hit and burning, and with the excited jibber jabber, it seemed a big surprise. Saudi is po'd along with the UAE.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 11:14 AM (WONhk)
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Wild. When Iraq was hit and burning, and with the excited jibber jabber, it seemed a big surprise. Saudi is po'd along with the UAE.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 11:14 AM (WONhk)
Good....
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 11:14 AM (WONhk)
Good....
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:15 AM (FtULh)
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Two weeks to flatten their nerve.
Posted by: Oh, wait... at April 08, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)
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Watching Hubbymayhem play with our grandson is just cool.
I have a strong belief that a man is most attractive when he wears a wedding band and gets on the floor to play with his kids or grandkids.
I have a strong belief that a man is most attractive when he wears a wedding band and gets on the floor to play with his kids or grandkids.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:16 AM (2J/Lj)
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MONKEY IS ALL IN
MONKEY IS ALL IN
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2026 11:16 AM (y9nCu)
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As long as Islam exists we will have mortal enemies, and nascent mortal enemies, and, get this, Islam ain’t going away. We will always have to fight against them. Or convert. Or be enslaved.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:17 AM (pDt9x)
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When and if the US bombs Iranian infrastructure, the Iranian government will have stopped forcing civilians to shield it. They'll just have moved on and forgotten.
Also, are a number of ways to render power plants and bridges unusable without destroying them.
I'm not sure if the infrastructure threat should be taken at face value anyway. It's about manipulation -- both the Iranian government and our so-called allies.
Whatever Trump is up to, I wouldn't bet that the plan includes leaving the IRGC in power.
When and if the US bombs Iranian infrastructure, the Iranian government will have stopped forcing civilians to shield it. They'll just have moved on and forgotten.
Also, are a number of ways to render power plants and bridges unusable without destroying them.
I'm not sure if the infrastructure threat should be taken at face value anyway. It's about manipulation -- both the Iranian government and our so-called allies.
Whatever Trump is up to, I wouldn't bet that the plan includes leaving the IRGC in power.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 08, 2026 11:17 AM (UgPks)
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Unable to defend against the American-Israeli attacks due to the latter's air superiority, they will settle for making infrastructure attacks as bloody and graphic as possible
Cui bono? It's definitely not Iran. Neither the people, the country, nor the installed regime.
Cui bono? It's definitely not Iran. Neither the people, the country, nor the installed regime.
Posted by: t-bird at April 08, 2026 11:17 AM (04KGT)
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I was assured by some people here that the mullahs days were numbered and the Iranian people were simply waiting on the Bat Signal to lock n load and start stacking bodies. Well, I'm waiting.
Posted by: Judge Smails at April 08, 2026 11:18 AM (3h6KV)
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@42...this was part of the reason I thought my crazy bf was husband/father material. I was holding a baby girl (I was a RN in a hospital) and he gave that baby a lot of attention. I melted.
He's been the best father and grandfather, ever, with our grandson and two granddaughters and counting. I still melt.
He's been the best father and grandfather, ever, with our grandson and two granddaughters and counting. I still melt.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 11:18 AM (WONhk)
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The man knows diminishing returns and when to get out of a position when he has milked all of its profit.
Whatever happens from here, it happens with them knowing that they better not try much while he is still POTUS.
That said, I don't expect things will magically improve, but I also don't see them nuking anyone for the next 10 years or so. I think that Iran is going to fragment. So the local situation is going to be bad. I don't think as a Country they will have an effective means to bankroll a Manhattan project, or export/support as much terror. The control of, or loss of control of, Karg island is going to have a lot of swing weight.
Whatever happens from here, it happens with them knowing that they better not try much while he is still POTUS.
That said, I don't expect things will magically improve, but I also don't see them nuking anyone for the next 10 years or so. I think that Iran is going to fragment. So the local situation is going to be bad. I don't think as a Country they will have an effective means to bankroll a Manhattan project, or export/support as much terror. The control of, or loss of control of, Karg island is going to have a lot of swing weight.
Posted by: its a bold plan cotton at April 08, 2026 11:18 AM (anL5R)
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I know we're not supposed to care about the protestors, but a couple weeks ago during one of the DOW news conferences Caine told them to stay inside that they will get the signal when to strike.. I was surprised as it was the same message from the Shah in waiting.. I wonder if that has changed...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:19 AM (FtULh)
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33 I'm sure that the protests to protect the bridges was done out of love for the mullahs and no coercion was involved.
Posted by: NR Pax at April 08, 2026 11:12 AM (BpO1e)
Those bridges and power plants are some of the holiest sites in all of Islam.
And as to the uranium? The muslims love their rocks.
Posted by: NR Pax at April 08, 2026 11:12 AM (BpO1e)
Those bridges and power plants are some of the holiest sites in all of Islam.
And as to the uranium? The muslims love their rocks.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 08, 2026 11:19 AM (Sco7b)
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I don't like the idea of a ceasefire.
I'm of the mind we need wars to go back to ending on unconditional surrender.
But, I also know that whatever the media is saying, everything the media is saying about this deal, is a lie.
Because they hate Trump so much.
And love Iran so much more than even their boyfriend Obama.
So I really can't say if it's good or bad.
I'm of the mind we need wars to go back to ending on unconditional surrender.
But, I also know that whatever the media is saying, everything the media is saying about this deal, is a lie.
Because they hate Trump so much.
And love Iran so much more than even their boyfriend Obama.
So I really can't say if it's good or bad.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 08, 2026 11:20 AM (HXT0k)
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9 The man knows diminishing returns and when to get out of a position when he has milked all of its profit.
Whatever happens from here, it happens with them knowing that they better not try much while he is still POTUS.
That said, I don't expect things will magically improve, but I also don't see them nuking anyone for the next 10 years or so. I think that Iran is going to fragment. So the local situation is going to be bad. I don't think as a Country they will have an effective means to bankroll a Manhattan project, or export/support as much terror. The control of, or loss of control of, Karg island is going to have a lot of swing weight.
Posted by: its a bold plan cotton at April 08, 2026 11:18 AM (anL5R)
A more optimistic take than I see. Sure hope it turns out well and good. But your first point : POTUS has gotten or will get the profit out of this deal IF there is any profit to be had-- true. In a perfect world wished that if this Iran excursion had to happen it would have been after the midterms.
Whatever happens from here, it happens with them knowing that they better not try much while he is still POTUS.
That said, I don't expect things will magically improve, but I also don't see them nuking anyone for the next 10 years or so. I think that Iran is going to fragment. So the local situation is going to be bad. I don't think as a Country they will have an effective means to bankroll a Manhattan project, or export/support as much terror. The control of, or loss of control of, Karg island is going to have a lot of swing weight.
Posted by: its a bold plan cotton at April 08, 2026 11:18 AM (anL5R)
A more optimistic take than I see. Sure hope it turns out well and good. But your first point : POTUS has gotten or will get the profit out of this deal IF there is any profit to be had-- true. In a perfect world wished that if this Iran excursion had to happen it would have been after the midterms.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at April 08, 2026 11:23 AM (ACNv3)
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Kamala could have been C-i-C, think on that.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:23 AM (pDt9x)
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This isn't a tie. Trump holds all the cards except for the Hormuz bullshit. And our supposed allies who screwed us by not having our backs will rue the day.
Of course the dems are going to run on trying to get the NATO circle jerk back in order, with Europe working overtime propping up the dem nominee to ensure the gravy train of security for them is kept.
This isn't a tie. Trump holds all the cards except for the Hormuz bullshit. And our supposed allies who screwed us by not having our backs will rue the day.
Of course the dems are going to run on trying to get the NATO circle jerk back in order, with Europe working overtime propping up the dem nominee to ensure the gravy train of security for them is kept.
Posted by: Frank Barone at April 08, 2026 11:24 AM (IifOV)
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Is there a country on the planet which has both a sizable Muslim population, but a non- Muslim dominated government?
On this Smart Military Blog, I think I've seen it mentioned that once you go past 10-15%, your country becomes either Muslim- dominated, or unsettled, and trending that way.
On this Smart Military Blog, I think I've seen it mentioned that once you go past 10-15%, your country becomes either Muslim- dominated, or unsettled, and trending that way.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at April 08, 2026 11:24 AM (f5L5X)
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I guess all their sleeper cells in the U.S. are missing the alarm clock.
I guess all their sleeper cells in the U.S. are missing the alarm clock.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2026 11:24 AM (Y8DZL)
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*Why, will they dock our pay?*
Now you're piling on.
Posted by: Oh, no... at April 08, 2026 11:13 AM (2Ez/1)
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Well, it could be a quay issue.
Now you're piling on.
Posted by: Oh, no... at April 08, 2026 11:13 AM (2Ez/1)
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Well, it could be a quay issue.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 08, 2026 11:24 AM (A0wCN)
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Our squeamish simping over enemy "civilians" will be our undoing. We might have all the military superiority in the world, but we seem to care more about foreign enemy "civilians" than we do our own troops. We will never win a pier war like that.
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Seriously bro. Its like, who are you people? What did you do with the people who dropped the sun on us. Twice.
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Seriously bro. Its like, who are you people? What did you do with the people who dropped the sun on us. Twice.
Posted by: The Japanese at April 08, 2026 11:25 AM (anL5R)
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When did Barnes go around the bend... and start talking to Alex Jones?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2026 11:11 AM (XMJOM)
Arrogant know it all, who is like the toad that tried to swell up to intimidate the bull and wound up popping himself.
Good insight into what things have been, and I understand he is a good organizer and decent trial lawyer, but he has too much involved with the status quo ante to act against what he had figured out. He considers the forever wars to be the greatest weapon against personal liberty, and I agree with him. However he also can't imagine that the world may have changed, at least for a moment under Trump.
Also I suspect he has a gambling habit and equivalent bad debt.
Alex Jones is not a crazy, he just has no filters between the likely and the unlikely. It is like between 60-80% of what he knows is valid, but it is mixed in with the bad suppositions and gotcha soundbites.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2026 11:11 AM (XMJOM)
Arrogant know it all, who is like the toad that tried to swell up to intimidate the bull and wound up popping himself.
Good insight into what things have been, and I understand he is a good organizer and decent trial lawyer, but he has too much involved with the status quo ante to act against what he had figured out. He considers the forever wars to be the greatest weapon against personal liberty, and I agree with him. However he also can't imagine that the world may have changed, at least for a moment under Trump.
Also I suspect he has a gambling habit and equivalent bad debt.
Alex Jones is not a crazy, he just has no filters between the likely and the unlikely. It is like between 60-80% of what he knows is valid, but it is mixed in with the bad suppositions and gotcha soundbites.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 08, 2026 11:25 AM (rbvCR)
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Is there a country on the planet which has both a sizable Muslim population, but a non- Muslim dominated government?
If I had to guess, I'd say Singapore and/or Indonesia, but I don't really know.
If I had to guess, I'd say Singapore and/or Indonesia, but I don't really know.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:27 AM (Riz8t)
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To be fair either somebody should not have been making a big stink about attacking power plants and bridges, or that was merely a distraction to keep the real targets in the clear.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 08, 2026 11:27 AM (/lPRQ)
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Alex Jones is not a crazy, he just has no filters between the likely and the unlikely. It is like between 60-80% of what he knows is valid, but it is mixed in with the bad suppositions and gotcha soundbites.
If Jones were leftwing with his same style and flair he'd have a low rated TV show and be considered a normal leftwing political pundit.
If Jones were leftwing with his same style and flair he'd have a low rated TV show and be considered a normal leftwing political pundit.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:28 AM (sKqQm)
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Do the Saudis even have a military to speak of?
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:28 AM (pDt9x)
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Do the Saudis even have a military to speak of?
They have a lot of expensive equipment. Whether their soldiers know how to use it and the courage to fight are different questions.
They have a lot of expensive equipment. Whether their soldiers know how to use it and the courage to fight are different questions.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:29 AM (Riz8t)
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I need an explainer on how Iran can still control passage through Hormuz after we bombed them to the stone age.
Posted by: Jose at April 08, 2026 11:29 AM (V6W16)
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The former Soviet Republics in Central Asia are mostly Muslim, but with pretty sane governments.
Posted by: Bulg at April 08, 2026 11:29 AM (77rzZ)
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Kamala could have been C-i-C, think on that.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:23 AM (pDt9x)
So, Venn diagrams at the Pentagon?
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:23 AM (pDt9x)
So, Venn diagrams at the Pentagon?
Posted by: dantesed at April 08, 2026 11:29 AM (Oy/m2)
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To be fair either somebody should not have been making a big stink about attacking power plants and bridges, or that was merely a distraction to keep the real targets in the clear.
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we did hit Karg island again yesterday before the deadline.
The israeli's also did some things before the deadline.
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we did hit Karg island again yesterday before the deadline.
The israeli's also did some things before the deadline.
Posted by: The Japanese at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (anL5R)
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Regardless of whether the US or the IRGC blinked, we're likely at the point where the real bloodletting is gonna start. But we won't need to lift a finger, it'll all be internal purges and massacres of a passive population or outright civil war.
The rest of the world is probably going to get a breather for a couple of years as the internal power struggle in Persia sorts itself out. Even if the IRGC wants to throw cash at fellow savages like Hamas or Hezbollah, they only have so much $ available, and what financial resources they DO have will need to be spent on internal fighting.
Regardless of whether the US or the IRGC blinked, we're likely at the point where the real bloodletting is gonna start. But we won't need to lift a finger, it'll all be internal purges and massacres of a passive population or outright civil war.
The rest of the world is probably going to get a breather for a couple of years as the internal power struggle in Persia sorts itself out. Even if the IRGC wants to throw cash at fellow savages like Hamas or Hezbollah, they only have so much $ available, and what financial resources they DO have will need to be spent on internal fighting.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (y9nCu)
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The Dow is up 2.3% this morning. I can't imagine why.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (Riz8t)
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So one disappointment I have with Trump is that he isn't pushing for a major tax overhaul.
Ideally there would be only one tax at the federal level and so therefore federal spending and how it impacts you personally would be pretty clear.
But there are smaller reforms - for example make the IRS "do your taxes" and send you the bill instead of requiring individuals to do them. Don't like their results? Then you can still do them yourself.
But for most people the government already has all the information it needs - it is just making people do math with the fun risk of fines and jail time if you screw up.
Ideally there would be only one tax at the federal level and so therefore federal spending and how it impacts you personally would be pretty clear.
But there are smaller reforms - for example make the IRS "do your taxes" and send you the bill instead of requiring individuals to do them. Don't like their results? Then you can still do them yourself.
But for most people the government already has all the information it needs - it is just making people do math with the fun risk of fines and jail time if you screw up.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (sKqQm)
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> Is there a country on the planet which has both a sizable Muslim population, but a non- Muslim dominated government?
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Might be a couple in Africa. Honestly don't know. The muzzies seem to take over when they're even remotely close to a particular percentage of the general population. They apparently own Minnesota.
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Might be a couple in Africa. Honestly don't know. The muzzies seem to take over when they're even remotely close to a particular percentage of the general population. They apparently own Minnesota.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (AkEZC)
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64 Do the Saudis even have a military to speak of?
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:28 AM (pDt9x)
Supposedly around 300 thousand strong with 25 thousand para-military
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:28 AM (pDt9x)
Supposedly around 300 thousand strong with 25 thousand para-military
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (FtULh)
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As others have said, we've probably run out of pure military targets and don't want to inflict pain and suffering on the general populace who have no way of effecting regime change.
As usual, the ME is our never-ending quagmire, it seems.
As usual, the ME is our never-ending quagmire, it seems.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2026 11:31 AM (XV/Pl)
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There was a persian guy on 11pm FoxNews pointing out that President Trump had plenty of experience negotiating with persians.
What seemed insane to the rest of the world clutching their pearls was simply Trump negotiating successfully.
Oh, good, this lady on 'The Price is Right' just won 20 grand. Good for her.
What seemed insane to the rest of the world clutching their pearls was simply Trump negotiating successfully.
Oh, good, this lady on 'The Price is Right' just won 20 grand. Good for her.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 08, 2026 11:31 AM (Sco7b)
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We need to send in the Social Workers!
Posted by: pudinhead at April 08, 2026 11:31 AM (n17eQ)
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Regardless of whether the US or the IRGC blinked, we're likely at the point where the real bloodletting is gonna start. But we won't need to lift a finger, it'll all be internal purges and massacres of a passive population or outright civil war.
The rest of the world is probably going to get a breather for a couple of years as the internal power struggle in Persia sorts itself out. Even if the IRGC wants to throw cash at fellow savages like Hamas or Hezbollah, they only have so much $ available, and what financial resources they DO have will need to be spent on internal fighting.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (y9nCu)
I saw where the potential Shah put out a message to the regular Army in Iran to rise up and take over...
Regardless of whether the US or the IRGC blinked, we're likely at the point where the real bloodletting is gonna start. But we won't need to lift a finger, it'll all be internal purges and massacres of a passive population or outright civil war.
The rest of the world is probably going to get a breather for a couple of years as the internal power struggle in Persia sorts itself out. Even if the IRGC wants to throw cash at fellow savages like Hamas or Hezbollah, they only have so much $ available, and what financial resources they DO have will need to be spent on internal fighting.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (y9nCu)
I saw where the potential Shah put out a message to the regular Army in Iran to rise up and take over...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:32 AM (FtULh)
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The muzzies seem to take over when they're even remotely close to a particular percentage of the general population. They apparently own Minnesota.
It is interesting how good the left has been at organizing various minority groups.
If we could ever get say taxpayers or Christians to organize the same way the Democrat party would end...
It is interesting how good the left has been at organizing various minority groups.
If we could ever get say taxpayers or Christians to organize the same way the Democrat party would end...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:32 AM (sKqQm)
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Oh, good, this lady on 'The Price is Right' just won 20 grand. Good for her.
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Did she say 'Wow!' like they do on Antique Roadshow?
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Did she say 'Wow!' like they do on Antique Roadshow?
Posted by: pudinhead at April 08, 2026 11:32 AM (n17eQ)
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74 64 Do the Saudis even have a military to speak of?
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:28 AM (pDt9x)
Supposedly around 300 thousand strong with 25 thousand para-military
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (FtULh)
Thanks. Never hear about them doing any military type stuff.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:28 AM (pDt9x)
Supposedly around 300 thousand strong with 25 thousand para-military
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (FtULh)
Thanks. Never hear about them doing any military type stuff.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 11:33 AM (pDt9x)
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@73
>>Honestly don't know. The muzzies seem to take over when they're even remotely close to a particular percentage of the general population. They apparently own Minnesota.
islam is a political system more than a religious doctrine.
There is no render unto Caesar in islam.
islam is Ceaser.
>>Honestly don't know. The muzzies seem to take over when they're even remotely close to a particular percentage of the general population. They apparently own Minnesota.
islam is a political system more than a religious doctrine.
There is no render unto Caesar in islam.
islam is Ceaser.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2026 11:33 AM (XV/Pl)
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The muzzies seem to take over when they're even remotely close to a particular percentage of the general population. They apparently own Minnesota.
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They sure seem to own a whole lot of stupid leftist politicians on both sides of the Atlantic.
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They sure seem to own a whole lot of stupid leftist politicians on both sides of the Atlantic.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 08, 2026 11:34 AM (qBdHI)
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And now the little fella is crashed out lying on grandpa in the recliner.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:34 AM (2J/Lj)
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The rest of the world is probably going to get a breather for a couple of years as the internal power struggle in Persia sorts itself out. Even if the IRGC wants to throw cash at fellow savages like Hamas or Hezbollah, they only have so much $ available, and what financial resources they DO have will need to be spent on internal fighting.
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Agree. at minimum, they have a lot to pay attention to inside their own borders, and sword of Damocles hanging above if they push their luck. Whatever they do, it is going to be orders of magnitude reduced for a long time. They need to get themselves sorted and they know it. It was literally never going to happen if he cut their power and bridges. It would have devolved in to Haiti/thunderdome. Hell, it still might if somebody does something really stupid.
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Agree. at minimum, they have a lot to pay attention to inside their own borders, and sword of Damocles hanging above if they push their luck. Whatever they do, it is going to be orders of magnitude reduced for a long time. They need to get themselves sorted and they know it. It was literally never going to happen if he cut their power and bridges. It would have devolved in to Haiti/thunderdome. Hell, it still might if somebody does something really stupid.
Posted by: Adm'l Painter at April 08, 2026 11:34 AM (anL5R)
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Do the Saudis even have a military to speak of?
They have a lot of expensive equipment. Whether their soldiers know how to use it and the courage to fight are different questions.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:29 AM (Riz8t)
They know how to shoot the guns.... maintaining them is something else again. Saudis don't turn wrenches, they hire out for maintenance to Filipinos, Indonesians, and other, lesser mohammedan populations.
Do the Saudis even have a military to speak of?
They have a lot of expensive equipment. Whether their soldiers know how to use it and the courage to fight are different questions.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:29 AM (Riz8t)
They know how to shoot the guns.... maintaining them is something else again. Saudis don't turn wrenches, they hire out for maintenance to Filipinos, Indonesians, and other, lesser mohammedan populations.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2026 11:35 AM (y9nCu)
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84 And now the little fella is crashed out lying on grandpa in the recliner.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:34 AM (2J/Lj)
Aren't Grandkids great.. You can have them over play with them, enjoy them.... Then send them home...
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:34 AM (2J/Lj)
Aren't Grandkids great.. You can have them over play with them, enjoy them.... Then send them home...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:35 AM (FtULh)
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They sure seem to own a whole lot of stupid leftist politicians on both sides of the Atlantic.
Remember when we found out it only took $10K to buy Bolton? I suspect Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood didn't have to spend much to collect most of our leftwing pols.
Remember when we found out it only took $10K to buy Bolton? I suspect Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood didn't have to spend much to collect most of our leftwing pols.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:35 AM (sKqQm)
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Supposedly around 300 thousand strong with 25 thousand para-military
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (FtULh)
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Are they receiving pay or promises of pay? We could reroute the Obama $58B to bring them into in and slaughter the crazies.
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (FtULh)
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Are they receiving pay or promises of pay? We could reroute the Obama $58B to bring them into in and slaughter the crazies.
Posted by: pudinhead at April 08, 2026 11:36 AM (n17eQ)
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80 Oh, good, this lady on 'The Price is Right' just won 20 grand. Good for her.
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Did she say 'Wow!' like they do on Antique Roadshow?
Posted by: pudinhead at April 08, 2026 11:32 AM
Way more than that. It's background noise but she was thrilled.
There was a guy on "Let's Make a Deal" - meh - that won $2300. He said earlier in the show that two thousand dollars would change his life. That put things into perspective.
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Did she say 'Wow!' like they do on Antique Roadshow?
Posted by: pudinhead at April 08, 2026 11:32 AM
Way more than that. It's background noise but she was thrilled.
There was a guy on "Let's Make a Deal" - meh - that won $2300. He said earlier in the show that two thousand dollars would change his life. That put things into perspective.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 08, 2026 11:36 AM (Sco7b)
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But there are smaller reforms - for example make the IRS "do your taxes" and send you the bill instead of requiring individuals to do them. Don't like their results? Then you can still do them yourself.
But for most people the government already has all the information it needs - it is just making people do math with the fun risk of fines and jail time if you screw up.
Posted by: 18-1
What, you don't think it's a good idea to check the government's work? Your tax return might be the first indication you have that some illegal alien is using your SSN
The taxes do need to be simplified though.
And specific use taxes, like fuel tax, which is assessed for road maintenance, need to go directly to the agency that oversees the purpose for which that tax is charged: do not pass Congress, do not skim off 50% for progtard projects
But for most people the government already has all the information it needs - it is just making people do math with the fun risk of fines and jail time if you screw up.
Posted by: 18-1
What, you don't think it's a good idea to check the government's work? Your tax return might be the first indication you have that some illegal alien is using your SSN
The taxes do need to be simplified though.
And specific use taxes, like fuel tax, which is assessed for road maintenance, need to go directly to the agency that oversees the purpose for which that tax is charged: do not pass Congress, do not skim off 50% for progtard projects
Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 08, 2026 11:37 AM (a+4eV)
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84 And now the little fella is crashed out lying on grandpa in the recliner.
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Good Times. Been there - its great!
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Good Times. Been there - its great!
Posted by: pudinhead at April 08, 2026 11:37 AM (n17eQ)
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Sexist sumbitch!
Townhall.com
@townhallcom
Lawrence O'Donnell is breathlessly offended that Pete Hegseth's statement that "we leave no man behind" is offensive to women.
"That could have been a woman they were trying to rescue."
Townhall.com
@townhallcom
Lawrence O'Donnell is breathlessly offended that Pete Hegseth's statement that "we leave no man behind" is offensive to women.
"That could have been a woman they were trying to rescue."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 08, 2026 11:38 AM (ndZc7)
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Aren't Grandkids great.. You can have them over play with them, enjoy them.... Then send them home...
Posted by: It's me donna
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and assess the damage/casualties, and then have a drink or five.
But I wouldn't have it any other way.
Posted by: It's me donna
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and assess the damage/casualties, and then have a drink or five.
But I wouldn't have it any other way.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at April 08, 2026 11:38 AM (f5L5X)
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There was a guy on "Let's Make a Deal" - meh - that won $2300. He said earlier in the show that two thousand dollars would change his life. That put things into perspective.
Posted by: Stateless
Good for him.
Posted by: Stateless
Good for him.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2026 11:38 AM (hCUcO)
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Ideally there would be only one tax at the federal level and so therefore federal spending and how it impacts you personally would be pretty clear.
I think you're only off by one! You can say I'm a dreamer...
I think you're only off by one! You can say I'm a dreamer...
Posted by: t-bird at April 08, 2026 11:38 AM (04KGT)
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All this Sturm und Drang can be laid at the feet of the galumphing goober farmer who refused to rise up to the needs of the occasion and administer a fierce and bloody pounding to the faces and lives of those in Iran who had committed an act of war by violating the sovereignty of our embassy in Tehran and taking the staff hostage.
The butcher's bill and its accrued interest that he gifted to this country as a result has been most costly and the price to close out the account is what faces us now.
But let's not fool ourselves. Back in 1979 Mister Carter had plenty of fellow travelers who supported our government, our society and not a small part of our people sitting on our hands with our thumbs up our asses all these forty-seven years. It has been yet another triumph for the Best and Brightest among us.
All this Sturm und Drang can be laid at the feet of the galumphing goober farmer who refused to rise up to the needs of the occasion and administer a fierce and bloody pounding to the faces and lives of those in Iran who had committed an act of war by violating the sovereignty of our embassy in Tehran and taking the staff hostage.
The butcher's bill and its accrued interest that he gifted to this country as a result has been most costly and the price to close out the account is what faces us now.
But let's not fool ourselves. Back in 1979 Mister Carter had plenty of fellow travelers who supported our government, our society and not a small part of our people sitting on our hands with our thumbs up our asses all these forty-seven years. It has been yet another triumph for the Best and Brightest among us.
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2026 11:38 AM (q/Jc0)
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Aren't Grandkids great.. You can have them over play with them, enjoy them.... Then send them home...
Posted by: It's me donna
Fill 'em full of sugar and send them home.
Posted by: It's me donna
Fill 'em full of sugar and send them home.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2026 11:39 AM (hCUcO)
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I thought Barnes was doing okay but then I scrolled back and he was relaying Joe Kent. Sigh. Can't trust anybody
Posted by: gKWVE at April 08, 2026 11:39 AM (tL5sl)
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But for most people the government already has all the information it needs - it is just making people do math with the fun risk of fines and jail time if you screw up.
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Social Security just sent me a check for $3,600 explaining they underpaid me for a year. Mo Money!
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Social Security just sent me a check for $3,600 explaining they underpaid me for a year. Mo Money!
Posted by: pudinhead at April 08, 2026 11:39 AM (n17eQ)
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Now Hubbymayhem is racked out too! The cat is snoring. Someone is mowing their lawn. The wind chimes sound pretty today. My world is full of comfortable sounds.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:40 AM (2J/Lj)
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Lawrence O'Donnell won't leave any man's behind.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 08, 2026 11:40 AM (tL5sl)
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From a Brit journalist:
Trump continues to be brilliant!
He now controls Venezuelan oil.
He now controls the Straights of Hormuz (Iran will cede this soon enough) where China gets 45% of it's oil. China is currently in tariff negotiations with the US...now who has the upper hand?
Europe is becoming hugely, bigly even, dependent on the US for energy. The Russian sources are suspect , and the lefty net-zero bullshit is killing them.
Trump is creating Greater North America, Greenland to Panama. Entirely self-sufficient.
And he has shown Britain that they are absolutely fu*ked. They've imported millions of Islamists, they import 60% of their food, no major industry, and a military that is on it's ass. Bad days ahead for them.
Trump continues to be brilliant!
He now controls Venezuelan oil.
He now controls the Straights of Hormuz (Iran will cede this soon enough) where China gets 45% of it's oil. China is currently in tariff negotiations with the US...now who has the upper hand?
Europe is becoming hugely, bigly even, dependent on the US for energy. The Russian sources are suspect , and the lefty net-zero bullshit is killing them.
Trump is creating Greater North America, Greenland to Panama. Entirely self-sufficient.
And he has shown Britain that they are absolutely fu*ked. They've imported millions of Islamists, they import 60% of their food, no major industry, and a military that is on it's ass. Bad days ahead for them.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2026 11:40 AM (2WIwB)
Posted by: pudinhead at April 08, 2026 11:40 AM (n17eQ)
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Squealing: "Won't somebody pleeease think of the children!" [Nuke drops]
Howdy, fellow warmongering MAGAs. Cool and sunny here in NE Land of the Red Man today. Hope y'all are as well as can be expected.
Blade, a tip from one with many ONT First trophies on my mantle: If you don't brag about "Firts," you don't look foolish when you don't get Frits. Not as foolish, anyway….😏
Howdy, fellow warmongering MAGAs. Cool and sunny here in NE Land of the Red Man today. Hope y'all are as well as can be expected.
Blade, a tip from one with many ONT First trophies on my mantle: If you don't brag about "Firts," you don't look foolish when you don't get Frits. Not as foolish, anyway….😏
Posted by: mindful webworker - playing the fool at April 08, 2026 11:41 AM (C2uPD)
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What, you don't think it's a good idea to check the government's work? Your tax return might be the first indication you have that some illegal alien is using your SSN
In this scenario you'd still have the option to do them yourself.
But most people hire someone else to do them anyway.
Simplification would be great, like I said I'd like their to be only one tax (and ideally a simple head tax because that is the fairest system) but this would be something way easier to do.
In this scenario you'd still have the option to do them yourself.
But most people hire someone else to do them anyway.
Simplification would be great, like I said I'd like their to be only one tax (and ideally a simple head tax because that is the fairest system) but this would be something way easier to do.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:41 AM (sKqQm)
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Sexist sumbitch!
Townhall.com
@townhallcom
Lawrence O'Donnell is breathlessly offended that Pete Hegseth's statement that "we leave no man behind" is offensive to women.
"That could have been a woman they were trying to rescue."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 08, 2026 11:38 AM
*boot to the head*
Townhall.com
@townhallcom
Lawrence O'Donnell is breathlessly offended that Pete Hegseth's statement that "we leave no man behind" is offensive to women.
"That could have been a woman they were trying to rescue."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 08, 2026 11:38 AM
*boot to the head*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2026 11:41 AM (bFu5X)
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Supposedly around 300 thousand strong with 25 thousand para-military
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (FtULh)
The projected population of Saudi Arabia in 2025 is approximately 34.57 million to 37.99 million, depending on the source, with a median age of around 30.6 years. The population is highly urbanized (approx. 92%) and consists of roughly 20.55 million Saudi nationals and 16.41 million non-Saudis.
Thus, if they really have 375k in uniform, that's almost 2% of the entire Saudi population. Color me skeptical.
By comparison, the US:
As of 2025, the total U.S. military population includes approximately 1.32 to 1.34 million active-duty service members, with a total force strength—including Reserve and National Guard personnel—exceeding 2.1 million. The total military community, including civilians, reaches about 2.81 million people.
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:30 AM (FtULh)
The projected population of Saudi Arabia in 2025 is approximately 34.57 million to 37.99 million, depending on the source, with a median age of around 30.6 years. The population is highly urbanized (approx. 92%) and consists of roughly 20.55 million Saudi nationals and 16.41 million non-Saudis.
Thus, if they really have 375k in uniform, that's almost 2% of the entire Saudi population. Color me skeptical.
By comparison, the US:
As of 2025, the total U.S. military population includes approximately 1.32 to 1.34 million active-duty service members, with a total force strength—including Reserve and National Guard personnel—exceeding 2.1 million. The total military community, including civilians, reaches about 2.81 million people.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:41 AM (Riz8t)
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Fill 'em full of sugar and send them home.
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Buy them a drum set!
Posted by: pudinhead
Depending on how bad your kids were growing up, fill up the grands with sugar and send them home with a puppy.
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Buy them a drum set!
Posted by: pudinhead
Depending on how bad your kids were growing up, fill up the grands with sugar and send them home with a puppy.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2026 11:41 AM (hCUcO)
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From someone I know who visited, the Saudi and Gulf States Arabs have absolute contempt for their co-religion "guest workers" who are seen as slaves, but are very friendly to Americans.
From someone I know who visited, the Saudi and Gulf States Arabs have absolute contempt for their co-religion "guest workers" who are seen as slaves, but are very friendly to Americans.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2026 11:42 AM (Y8DZL)
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Aren't Grandkids great.. You can have them over play with them, enjoy them.... Then send them home...
Posted by: It's me donna
Fill 'em full of sugar and send them home.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2026 11:39 AM (hCUcO)
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*sniff*
Then before you know it, the l'il bastards are off to kollege.
*sniff*
*wipes tear*
Posted by: It's me donna
Fill 'em full of sugar and send them home.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2026 11:39 AM (hCUcO)
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*sniff*
Then before you know it, the l'il bastards are off to kollege.
*sniff*
*wipes tear*
Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2026 11:42 AM (2WIwB)
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Lawrence O'Donnell is breathlessly offended that Pete Hegseth's statement that "we leave no man behind" is offensive to women.
"That could have been a woman they were trying to rescue."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 08, 2026 11:38 AM (ndZc7)
O'Donnell is a complete douchebag.
Completely ignoring the Agender, Androgyne, Bigender, Butch, Cisgender, Demiboy, Demigirl, Gender Expansive, Genderfluid, Genderqueer, Intersex, Maverique, Non-binary, Pangender, Transgender peoples of the world.
What a MAGA bastard.
"That could have been a woman they were trying to rescue."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 08, 2026 11:38 AM (ndZc7)
O'Donnell is a complete douchebag.
Completely ignoring the Agender, Androgyne, Bigender, Butch, Cisgender, Demiboy, Demigirl, Gender Expansive, Genderfluid, Genderqueer, Intersex, Maverique, Non-binary, Pangender, Transgender peoples of the world.
What a MAGA bastard.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 08, 2026 11:42 AM (Sco7b)
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92 84 And now the little fella is crashed out lying on grandpa in the recliner.
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Good Times. Been there - its great!
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One of my favorite things!
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Good Times. Been there - its great!
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One of my favorite things!
Posted by: Cosda at April 08, 2026 11:42 AM (7XApM)
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I think you're only off by one! You can say I'm a dreamer...
I would like to see a locality implement a no tax system, let people donate what they think is fair.
The argument is no one one pay anything. Well, maybe. But it is worth as much of a try as all the UBI "experiments" the government does.
I would like to see a locality implement a no tax system, let people donate what they think is fair.
The argument is no one one pay anything. Well, maybe. But it is worth as much of a try as all the UBI "experiments" the government does.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:42 AM (sKqQm)
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84 And now the little fella is crashed out lying on grandpa in the recliner.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:34 AM (2J/Lj)
I miss those days. Mine are 9 and 5 now. It goes by quick.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:34 AM (2J/Lj)
I miss those days. Mine are 9 and 5 now. It goes by quick.
Posted by: Reforger at April 08, 2026 11:43 AM (ZhdAT)
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I suspect Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood didn't have to spend much to collect most of our leftwing pols.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:35 AM (sKqQm)
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They're not gay but $20 is $20.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:35 AM (sKqQm)
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They're not gay but $20 is $20.
Posted by: ballistic at April 08, 2026 11:43 AM (oqH4h)
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All this Sturm und Drang can be laid at the feet of the galumphing goober farmer who refused to rise up to the needs of the occasion and administer a fierce and bloody pounding to the faces and lives of those in Iran who had committed an act of war by violating the sovereignty of our embassy in Tehran and taking the staff hostage.
I'm the last person who would defend that idiot, but the reality is that we were deep in the post-Vietnam malaise at that time. The support for another overseas military adventure just wasn't there.
I'm the last person who would defend that idiot, but the reality is that we were deep in the post-Vietnam malaise at that time. The support for another overseas military adventure just wasn't there.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:43 AM (Riz8t)
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Lawrence O'Donnell is breathlessly offended that Pete Hegseth's statement that "we leave no man behind" is offensive to women.
Kind of funny when they forget about all of their make-believe genders.
Kind of funny when they forget about all of their make-believe genders.
Posted by: t-bird at April 08, 2026 11:43 AM (XD+PD)
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Lawrence O'Donnell is breathlessly offended that Pete Hegseth's statement that "we leave no man behind" is offensive to women.
No doubt someone in the press with even a smidgen of gumption and curiosity could do a little digging into Mr. O'Donnell's background and find dribs and drabs of behaviors that were "offensive to women" on his part. And probably of greater consequence in the bargain, too.
Lawrence O'Donnell is breathlessly offended that Pete Hegseth's statement that "we leave no man behind" is offensive to women.
No doubt someone in the press with even a smidgen of gumption and curiosity could do a little digging into Mr. O'Donnell's background and find dribs and drabs of behaviors that were "offensive to women" on his part. And probably of greater consequence in the bargain, too.
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2026 11:43 AM (q/Jc0)
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Now Hubbymayhem is racked out too! The cat is snoring. Someone is mowing their lawn. The wind chimes sound pretty today. My world is full of comfortable sounds.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:40 AM
Sometimes, life is just good.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:40 AM
Sometimes, life is just good.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2026 11:43 AM (bFu5X)
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IIRC the Saudis are in line to get F-35's. They've got a lot of our top tier military kit; M-1 Abrams tanks, E-3 AWACS planes, F-15's and soon, their own version of the LCS (little crappy ship).
On paper, they look pretty stout. In reality I don't think they've sortied any planes or moved any soldiers around.
Even the missiles and drones fired at them have been intercepted (mostly) by US manned Patriot and THAAD systems.
On paper, they look pretty stout. In reality I don't think they've sortied any planes or moved any soldiers around.
Even the missiles and drones fired at them have been intercepted (mostly) by US manned Patriot and THAAD systems.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2026 11:44 AM (AkEZC)
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I love having my 6 year old grandnephew over in part because he and our hyperactive 1 year old dog wear each other out. My dog is so happy to have a kid to run around in the yard with rather than 2 old ladies whose running days are over.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at April 08, 2026 11:44 AM (Ecjv8)
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Lawrence O'Donnell is breathlessly offended that Pete Hegseth's statement that "we leave no man behind" is offensive to women.
And you think the phrase "no woman behind" is not offensive?!
And you think the phrase "no woman behind" is not offensive?!
Posted by: Brie Larson at April 08, 2026 11:45 AM (XD+PD)
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From someone I know who visited, the Saudi and Gulf States Arabs have absolute contempt for their co-religion "guest workers" who are seen as slaves, but are very friendly to Americans.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2026 11:42 AM (Y8DZL)
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My brother has visited UAE several times. It's a class thing. If you are western and have a nice fat wallet, then you are worthy of respect and hospitality. If you are poor or desperate -- no matter your religion or culture or country -- you are filthy peons who need to stay out of the fucking way.
Also: they do not want freedom. They like living under a monarchy that tells them what to do. It's easier, there are no political battles like we have, and so long as you follow the rules you will be fine. That's their mindset.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2026 11:42 AM (Y8DZL)
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My brother has visited UAE several times. It's a class thing. If you are western and have a nice fat wallet, then you are worthy of respect and hospitality. If you are poor or desperate -- no matter your religion or culture or country -- you are filthy peons who need to stay out of the fucking way.
Also: they do not want freedom. They like living under a monarchy that tells them what to do. It's easier, there are no political battles like we have, and so long as you follow the rules you will be fine. That's their mindset.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at April 08, 2026 11:46 AM (iFTx/)
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And you think the phrase "no woman behind" is not offensive?!
Posted by: Brie Larson
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Eat a sammich, and do some squats. Its really not difficult to improve that pancake butt at your age.
Posted by: Brie Larson
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Eat a sammich, and do some squats. Its really not difficult to improve that pancake butt at your age.
Posted by: It is a low effort fix at April 08, 2026 11:47 AM (anL5R)
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Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:41 AM (Riz8t)
I thought maybe conscription, but no... The perks for joining the military are substantial with high pay... Men and women can enlist...
I thought maybe conscription, but no... The perks for joining the military are substantial with high pay... Men and women can enlist...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 11:47 AM (FtULh)
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I'm the last person who would defend that idiot, but the reality is that we were deep in the post-Vietnam malaise at that time. The support for another overseas military adventure just wasn't there.
Posted by: Archimedes
A -- I was aware of that and knew that it imposed huge restraints on Jimmuh's options. But the only brush that I used was a broad one, as Bob Ross had absconded with my smaller ones and then he screwed me over by passing away before telling me where he had hid them.
I'm the last person who would defend that idiot, but the reality is that we were deep in the post-Vietnam malaise at that time. The support for another overseas military adventure just wasn't there.
Posted by: Archimedes
A -- I was aware of that and knew that it imposed huge restraints on Jimmuh's options. But the only brush that I used was a broad one, as Bob Ross had absconded with my smaller ones and then he screwed me over by passing away before telling me where he had hid them.
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2026 11:47 AM (q/Jc0)
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I was just over at Insty, and there's a post up this morning linking to an X post video clip of Alex Jones and ROBERT BARNES discussing a 25th Amendment coup necessity.
Jeepers, when did Barnes, someone I thought was rather based, go nuts?
Jeepers, when did Barnes, someone I thought was rather based, go nuts?
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2026 11:47 AM (rj6Yv)
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Lawrence O'Donnell is breathlessly offended that Pete Hegseth's statement that "we leave no man behind" is offensive to women.
Does he even know the difference?
Does he even know the difference?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2026 11:47 AM (2WIwB)
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Lawrence O'Donnell is a souless moron in need of more hammer.
Posted by: kingsman at April 08, 2026 11:47 AM (ehY6c)
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Our dogs and grandchildren have a great time together.
Bonus is dogs are worn out and so are the kids.
Everyone sleeps well, lol.
Our dogs and grandchildren have a great time together.
Bonus is dogs are worn out and so are the kids.
Everyone sleeps well, lol.
Posted by: fourseasons at April 08, 2026 11:48 AM (3ek7K)
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Jeepers, when did Barnes, someone I thought was rather based, go nuts?
Posted by: mrp
He has been tossing out snide remarks about Trump for some time now to the point where I figured that he was lukewarm, at best, about the guy.
Jeepers, when did Barnes, someone I thought was rather based, go nuts?
Posted by: mrp
He has been tossing out snide remarks about Trump for some time now to the point where I figured that he was lukewarm, at best, about the guy.
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2026 11:51 AM (q/Jc0)
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Its interesting, I noticed the stock market generally went down with the Iran conflict and the FNM talked about it a lot.
But now? Crickets...
But now? Crickets...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:51 AM (sKqQm)
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They like living under a monarchy that tells them what to do. It's easier, there are no political battles like we have, and so long as you follow the rules you will be fine. That's their mindset.
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Different mindset for sure. Baseline is whatever happens is the will of Allah and submit to it. Maintenance? Why, if Allah wills my tank to work it will work. That's a bit of an exaggeration for the sake of weak comedy, but there is some truth to it. Isreal is still there isn't it?
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Different mindset for sure. Baseline is whatever happens is the will of Allah and submit to it. Maintenance? Why, if Allah wills my tank to work it will work. That's a bit of an exaggeration for the sake of weak comedy, but there is some truth to it. Isreal is still there isn't it?
Posted by: It is a low effort fix at April 08, 2026 11:52 AM (anL5R)
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Thus, if they really have 375k in uniform, that's almost 2% of the entire Saudi population. Color me skeptical.
Actually, that sounds about right. When you consider the balance between the Services (Army, Navy, Air Force and SpecOps) and throw in the support tail for each, that number is good.
Actually, that sounds about right. When you consider the balance between the Services (Army, Navy, Air Force and SpecOps) and throw in the support tail for each, that number is good.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2026 11:52 AM (2WIwB)
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@103...he saw the spider web of connections and blew a hole through it.
The UK and Europe will someday, probably soon, see the error of their ways. In not giving support...or at the very least...allowing our planes to land: screwed.
They better be polishing their begging cups.
The UK and Europe will someday, probably soon, see the error of their ways. In not giving support...or at the very least...allowing our planes to land: screwed.
They better be polishing their begging cups.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 11:52 AM (WONhk)
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It is amazing, get a Republican president that actually does conservative things and finally the GOPe and its pundits have a Republican president that want to remove...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:52 AM (sKqQm)
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There was the expectation that Israel would be destroyed early on - after all those Arab armies had british training and a population way higher.
Funny how that actually played out though....
Funny how that actually played out though....
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:53 AM (sKqQm)
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We don't have a dog. Just our daughter's cat. The cat hates everyone except the girl spawn. She tolerates me and Hubbymayhem because... Food. She will not tolerate the little fella. He doesn't understand that he can't play with Pax the Cat like he plays with his cat Moose. Moose has made himself untouchable. The fella loves him and he was the only one of those three cats that caught a mouse. The other two cats and a yappy dog are on borrowed time in that house.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (2J/Lj)
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Is Ace late to clock in, or am I just an early bird?
I hope he did not inhale too much varnish fumes.
I hope he did not inhale too much varnish fumes.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (WONhk)
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Maria Salazar is fighting like a puta for her DIGNIDAD Act (yes, it's named in Spanish), which is amnesty on steroids. She should be primaried out.
Maria Salazar is fighting like a puta for her DIGNIDAD Act (yes, it's named in Spanish), which is amnesty on steroids. She should be primaried out.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (n7rxJ)
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Conservatives need to get the hell out of blue states ASAP. What is coming will be unbearable. Red states will suffer too, but it will be easier to fight back -- and survive -- amongst like-minded folk. You've been warned. Repeatedly, in fact.
Posted by: It Will Happen at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (qUkBO)
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Such a sad story about the little girl in Texas who was abducted by a FedEx driver in Texas.
The POS pled guilty. Now he needs to be killed by firing squad.
Such a sad story about the little girl in Texas who was abducted by a FedEx driver in Texas.
The POS pled guilty. Now he needs to be killed by firing squad.
Posted by: fourseasons at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (3ek7K)
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I'm the last person who would defend that idiot, but the reality is that we were deep in the post-Vietnam malaise at that time. The support for another overseas military adventure just wasn't there.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:43 AM (Riz8t)
Says who? Most people that I knew wanted us to blow their shit to a deserved hell.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:43 AM (Riz8t)
Says who? Most people that I knew wanted us to blow their shit to a deserved hell.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (g8Ew8)
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Such a sad story about the little girl in Texas who was abducted by a FedEx driver in Texas.
The POS pled guilty. Now he needs to be killed by firing squad.
Posted by: fourseasons at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM
And he waited until the actual trial date to plead guilty. He could have done that last year and given closure to the family but the little $hit dragged it out as long as he could and at the very last minute plead guilty.
The POS pled guilty. Now he needs to be killed by firing squad.
Posted by: fourseasons at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM
And he waited until the actual trial date to plead guilty. He could have done that last year and given closure to the family but the little $hit dragged it out as long as he could and at the very last minute plead guilty.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2026 11:56 AM (0N4FZ)
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There was the expectation that Israel would be destroyed early on - after all those Arab armies had british training and a population way higher.
Funny how that actually played out though....
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:53 AM (sKqQm)
In the Game of Want Vs Necessity, Necessity is the greater motivation and will usually win.
Funny how that actually played out though....
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:53 AM (sKqQm)
In the Game of Want Vs Necessity, Necessity is the greater motivation and will usually win.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 08, 2026 11:56 AM (iJfKG)
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I have seen and heard a dozen or so podcasts or talk shows where someone familiar with the I'slamites related that Arab Muslims are fiercely contemptuous of professed Muslims who hail from anywhere else in the world. Mid- and South Asians (e.g., Pakistanis) and Africans they regard with contempt in particular.
It's another caste system all but in name.
I have seen and heard a dozen or so podcasts or talk shows where someone familiar with the I'slamites related that Arab Muslims are fiercely contemptuous of professed Muslims who hail from anywhere else in the world. Mid- and South Asians (e.g., Pakistanis) and Africans they regard with contempt in particular.
It's another caste system all but in name.
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2026 11:57 AM (q/Jc0)
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Iran was sending missiles and cluster bombs to Israel. Sirens blaring in Tel Aviv and other areas. After patience for a few hours, Israel sent in air strikes to Tehran and other parts of Iran"
Turns out those reports were..questionable.
Turns out those reports were..questionable.
Posted by: man at April 08, 2026 11:57 AM (XuXeR)
Posted by: BlackOrchid(j+aD2) at April 08, 2026 11:58 AM (j+aD2)
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I know that Epic Fury was an overwhelming military success.
But literally everything I hear in pop culture is about how we got our asses kicked by a bunch of goat fucking suicide vest fashion show attendees.
It's so damn depressing.
But literally everything I hear in pop culture is about how we got our asses kicked by a bunch of goat fucking suicide vest fashion show attendees.
It's so damn depressing.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 08, 2026 11:58 AM (WYStd)
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I'm the last person who would defend that idiot, but the reality is that we were deep in the post-Vietnam malaise at that time. The support for another overseas military adventure just wasn't there.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:43 AM (Riz8t)
Says who? Most people that I knew wanted us to blow their shit to a deserved hell.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (g8Ew
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I remember those days well. The real malaise existed between the earlobes of the peanut farmer. America then (as now) would have responded to real leadership. The Iranians did as we saw when Reagan was elected. And, back then, the media was no friend to America. Hell, people thought Water Cronkite was actually telling them the truth.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 11:43 AM (Riz8t)
Says who? Most people that I knew wanted us to blow their shit to a deserved hell.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (g8Ew
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I remember those days well. The real malaise existed between the earlobes of the peanut farmer. America then (as now) would have responded to real leadership. The Iranians did as we saw when Reagan was elected. And, back then, the media was no friend to America. Hell, people thought Water Cronkite was actually telling them the truth.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2026 11:58 AM (2WIwB)
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So, are we securing shipping in the Strait of Hormuz for the euroweenies after all? They can all sail home while we continue to bear the responsibility?
So, are we securing shipping in the Strait of Hormuz for the euroweenies after all? They can all sail home while we continue to bear the responsibility?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2026 11:58 AM (n7rxJ)
Posted by: fourseasons at April 08, 2026 11:59 AM (3ek7K)
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The failure of the hostage rescue operation under Carter laid bare a bigger reason that a military response wasn't really a viable option in 1980 - the US military was in terrible shape, after a decade of budget cuts and malaise, and 4 years of gross mismanagement by Carter and his people. It took 8 years of intensive rebuilding by Reagan and then Bush 1 (yes, he did do good things with the military) to get the US military back to where it could mount a credible overseas operation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2026 11:59 AM (/QdgR)
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150 I know that Epic Fury was an overwhelming military success.
But literally everything I hear in pop culture is about how we got our asses kicked by a bunch of goat fucking suicide vest fashion show attendees.
It's so damn depressing.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 08, 2026 11:58 AM (WYStd)
They control Information for the most part. A huge perennial problem.
But literally everything I hear in pop culture is about how we got our asses kicked by a bunch of goat fucking suicide vest fashion show attendees.
It's so damn depressing.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 08, 2026 11:58 AM (WYStd)
They control Information for the most part. A huge perennial problem.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 12:00 PM (pDt9x)
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So, are we securing shipping in the Strait of Hormuz for the euroweenies after all? They can all sail home while we continue to bear the responsibility?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2026 11:58 AM (n7rxJ)
Well, we did get to blow up a bunch of stuff and send a shit load of Ayatollah's to their 72 virgin goats.... Win, win...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2026 11:58 AM (n7rxJ)
Well, we did get to blow up a bunch of stuff and send a shit load of Ayatollah's to their 72 virgin goats.... Win, win...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 12:00 PM (FtULh)
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Sigh, can't always get what you want I guess, but I was hoping we would finally get the terror funding bastards out of power in Iran. Hormuz also now seems totally under control of Iran too. They are being allowed to charge, deny and delay traffic at their whim. But the nuke situation seems taken care of for now.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 08, 2026 12:01 PM (n5tGW)
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There was the expectation that Israel would be destroyed early on - after all those Arab armies had british training and a population way higher.
Funny how that actually played out though....
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:53 AM (sKqQm)
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When the Arab Legion defied UN orders to remain in the Transjordan, the UK government ordered all British officers to return to the Transjordan. They did so, but every single one of those Brits, including "Glubb Pasha", snuck back over the river and defiantly returned to their posts. To my knowledge, not a single one of them was arrested for doing so.
Funny how that actually played out though....
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2026 11:53 AM (sKqQm)
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When the Arab Legion defied UN orders to remain in the Transjordan, the UK government ordered all British officers to return to the Transjordan. They did so, but every single one of those Brits, including "Glubb Pasha", snuck back over the river and defiantly returned to their posts. To my knowledge, not a single one of them was arrested for doing so.
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2026 12:01 PM (rj6Yv)
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Eradicate their breeding population for the good of the planet
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 08, 2026 12:01 PM (wBaIH)
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But literally everything I hear in pop culture is about how we got our asses kicked by a bunch of goat fucking suicide vest fashion show attendees.
It's so damn depressing.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 08, 2026 11:58 AM (WYStd)
it lays bare how degraded and corrupt our "pop" culture is currently. It's trash, and we need to work on doing what we can to repair that regardless of what happens in any war.
It's so damn depressing.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 08, 2026 11:58 AM (WYStd)
it lays bare how degraded and corrupt our "pop" culture is currently. It's trash, and we need to work on doing what we can to repair that regardless of what happens in any war.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2026 12:01 PM (/QdgR)
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141 Maria Salazar is fighting like a puta for her DIGNIDAD Act (yes, it's named in Spanish), which is amnesty on steroids. She should be primaried out.
what about the dignimoms?
what about the dignimoms?
Posted by: anachronda at April 08, 2026 12:02 PM (oY6Yp)
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That they believed their Muslim brothers from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, TransJordan and Iraq and lit out from the territory that became Israel ahead of the 1948 War because said brothers assured them, "We've got this!" spoke volumes about the Palis ability to read a room.
"You fooked up -- you trusted us!"
That they believed their Muslim brothers from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, TransJordan and Iraq and lit out from the territory that became Israel ahead of the 1948 War because said brothers assured them, "We've got this!" spoke volumes about the Palis ability to read a room.
"You fooked up -- you trusted us!"
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2026 12:02 PM (q/Jc0)
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I remember those days well. The real malaise existed between the earlobes of the peanut farmer. America then (as now) would have responded to real leadership. The Iranians did as we saw when Reagan was elected.
I think your timing is a bit off. America probably needed to be humiliated in the way we were under Carter for us to get serious again under Reagan. The military in the 70s was a shambles, and it was almost reflexive that we didn't want to be in any more foreign wars. I'm not defending that attitude, it's just the way I remember it was.
I think your timing is a bit off. America probably needed to be humiliated in the way we were under Carter for us to get serious again under Reagan. The military in the 70s was a shambles, and it was almost reflexive that we didn't want to be in any more foreign wars. I'm not defending that attitude, it's just the way I remember it was.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 12:02 PM (Riz8t)
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I have seen and heard a dozen or so podcasts or talk shows where someone familiar with the I'slamites related that Arab Muslims are fiercely contemptuous of professed Muslims who hail from anywhere else in the world. Mid- and South Asians (e.g., Pakistanis) and Africans they regard with contempt in particular.
It's another caste system all but in name.
Posted by: Krebs
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It's mutual and universal. The desert Muslims claim to have "the real Islam." The Asians claim that it's a practical religion and the Saudis are nuts for wrapping women like mummies. The Levantine Muslims (Syria, Iraq) claim that no no no, THEY'RE the ones who are doing it right.
I have seen and heard a dozen or so podcasts or talk shows where someone familiar with the I'slamites related that Arab Muslims are fiercely contemptuous of professed Muslims who hail from anywhere else in the world. Mid- and South Asians (e.g., Pakistanis) and Africans they regard with contempt in particular.
It's another caste system all but in name.
Posted by: Krebs
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It's mutual and universal. The desert Muslims claim to have "the real Islam." The Asians claim that it's a practical religion and the Saudis are nuts for wrapping women like mummies. The Levantine Muslims (Syria, Iraq) claim that no no no, THEY'RE the ones who are doing it right.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2026 12:02 PM (n7rxJ)
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yappy dog are on borrowed time in that house.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (2J/Lj)
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I'm not fond of yappy dogs. We had a husky/Malamute/German Shepherd girl for our first baby. When #1 son was born she was nervous. If he cried she wanted out. She got more used to him but never warmed to him (unlike the Goldens in our grand's lives).
I'd just had our 2nd boy and my husband, 2yr old toddler and dog were outside mowing. Son had his play mower and tripped and fell on dog. Granted, instinct if something falls on their abdomen (she was 5yrs), but she lunged to bite his head. Then stopped.
My husband said he did not know if our boy would have half his face missing or be blind. He had a puncture from a canine tooth an inch from his eye.
The dog was adopted by a lady with a ranch and we told her that small children made her nervous (otherwise she was a great dog, but had gotten fierce and attacked a small dog a few months prior to this and hated strangers).
Watch that yappy dog, Grandma. The Goldens in our grandbabies lives act like they babysat all their lives. I was amazed at how quickly they loved their new siblings and how gentle they are.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (2J/Lj)
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I'm not fond of yappy dogs. We had a husky/Malamute/German Shepherd girl for our first baby. When #1 son was born she was nervous. If he cried she wanted out. She got more used to him but never warmed to him (unlike the Goldens in our grand's lives).
I'd just had our 2nd boy and my husband, 2yr old toddler and dog were outside mowing. Son had his play mower and tripped and fell on dog. Granted, instinct if something falls on their abdomen (she was 5yrs), but she lunged to bite his head. Then stopped.
My husband said he did not know if our boy would have half his face missing or be blind. He had a puncture from a canine tooth an inch from his eye.
The dog was adopted by a lady with a ranch and we told her that small children made her nervous (otherwise she was a great dog, but had gotten fierce and attacked a small dog a few months prior to this and hated strangers).
Watch that yappy dog, Grandma. The Goldens in our grandbabies lives act like they babysat all their lives. I was amazed at how quickly they loved their new siblings and how gentle they are.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 12:02 PM (WONhk)
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29 When did Barnes go around the bend... and start talking to Alex Jones?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2026 11:11 AM (XMJOM)
Barnes, Baris (who recently compared Israel to Nazi Germany) and those type of fellas and chicks started to go nuts after Bondis Epstein Binder to Influencer Bitch (ooooof) and made the crazy turn around the bend after Midnight Hammer last summer over Iran.
They now Epstein it up while at the same time sit around and oil up Steve Bannon. They've chosen their lot now. No coming back.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 08, 2026 11:11 AM (XMJOM)
Barnes, Baris (who recently compared Israel to Nazi Germany) and those type of fellas and chicks started to go nuts after Bondis Epstein Binder to Influencer Bitch (ooooof) and made the crazy turn around the bend after Midnight Hammer last summer over Iran.
They now Epstein it up while at the same time sit around and oil up Steve Bannon. They've chosen their lot now. No coming back.
Posted by: GigantorX at April 08, 2026 12:02 PM (JrZbt)
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He has been tossing out snide remarks about Trump for some time now to the point where I figured that he was lukewarm, at best, about the guy.
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2026 11:51 AM (q/Jc0)
Trump refuses to take Barnes advice.
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2026 11:51 AM (q/Jc0)
Trump refuses to take Barnes advice.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 08, 2026 12:04 PM (rbvCR)
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155 150 I know that Epic Fury was an overwhelming military success.
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It's so damn depressing.
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They control Information for the most part. A huge perennial problem.
It comes down to one thing, can Pavlavi flip the unspillable DQ Shake? Is Trump really willing to indict Brennen?
Only this will set the fire that really needs to be set.
Only after this will America250 really be able to move-on into the future, rather than forever forWARd.
And Trump be added to the list of the who to remember because of it -- you've seen this by now...
Clinton: To leave now.
Obama: To abandon this area
IceKingJOE: What is the national security interest?
Those who Disgraced their office and Betrayed us ALL!
LET'S GO BRANDON!
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-HereComeTheDRUMS
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-DawnOfTheIceKING
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-ShadowOfTheIceKING
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-PrezLibraryCameo
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It's so damn depressing.
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They control Information for the most part. A huge perennial problem.
It comes down to one thing, can Pavlavi flip the unspillable DQ Shake? Is Trump really willing to indict Brennen?
Only this will set the fire that really needs to be set.
Only after this will America250 really be able to move-on into the future, rather than forever forWARd.
And Trump be added to the list of the who to remember because of it -- you've seen this by now...
Clinton: To leave now.
Obama: To abandon this area
IceKingJOE: What is the national security interest?
Those who Disgraced their office and Betrayed us ALL!
LET'S GO BRANDON!
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-HereComeTheDRUMS
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-DawnOfTheIceKING
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-ShadowOfTheIceKING
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-PrezLibraryCameo
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at April 08, 2026 12:06 PM (h4n6w)
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what about the dignimoms?
Posted by: anachronda
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If those are mamas del vino, I'm sure they're all in.
If they're moms whose kids have been murdered by people who perhaps made one mistake but who basically just want their fair and universally deserved chance at the American dream, I think NOT.
what about the dignimoms?
Posted by: anachronda
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If those are mamas del vino, I'm sure they're all in.
If they're moms whose kids have been murdered by people who perhaps made one mistake but who basically just want their fair and universally deserved chance at the American dream, I think NOT.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2026 12:06 PM (n7rxJ)
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The military in the 70s was a shambles, and it was almost reflexive that we didn't want to be in any more foreign wars. I'm not defending that attitude, it's just the way I remember it was.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 12:02 PM (Riz8t)
I remember some nasty humor in Nat Lampoon back in the late 70's - there's a longstanding recruiting theme for the Marines called "The Few - The Proud - The Marines."
Nat Lampoon ran a parody ad saying "The Poor - The Black - The Marines" and in the late 70's, it was mostly true. Under Carter, we had a ghetto army.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2026 12:02 PM (Riz8t)
I remember some nasty humor in Nat Lampoon back in the late 70's - there's a longstanding recruiting theme for the Marines called "The Few - The Proud - The Marines."
Nat Lampoon ran a parody ad saying "The Poor - The Black - The Marines" and in the late 70's, it was mostly true. Under Carter, we had a ghetto army.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2026 12:06 PM (/QdgR)
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The picture of the darling in the FedEx truck is heartbreaking.
Posted by: fourseasons at April 08, 2026 11:59 AM (3ek7K)
There are many things I can't read or learn about, and this is one. She's lovely, as are my granddaughters.
I became a kidnap freak out Mom when #1 son was a toddler and a weirdo was kidnapping blonde boys. I don't think I have ever gotten over that and watch like a hawk. And pray a lot.
That poor sweet girl. I can't and won't try to think of the grief.
The picture of the darling in the FedEx truck is heartbreaking.
Posted by: fourseasons at April 08, 2026 11:59 AM (3ek7K)
There are many things I can't read or learn about, and this is one. She's lovely, as are my granddaughters.
I became a kidnap freak out Mom when #1 son was a toddler and a weirdo was kidnapping blonde boys. I don't think I have ever gotten over that and watch like a hawk. And pray a lot.
That poor sweet girl. I can't and won't try to think of the grief.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 12:07 PM (WONhk)
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Maria Salazar is fighting like a puta for her DIGNIDAD Act (yes, it's named in Spanish), which is amnesty on steroids. She should be primaried out.
what about the dignimoms?
Posted by: anachronda at April 08, 2026 12:02 PM
Excuse you?!
what about the dignimoms?
Posted by: anachronda at April 08, 2026 12:02 PM
Excuse you?!
Posted by: Dignitroons at April 08, 2026 12:08 PM (bFu5X)
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An important thing to come out of the Carter debacle was the creation of CENTCOM. Unified command.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 08, 2026 12:09 PM (qFwJc)
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what about the dignimoms?
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If they're moms whose kids have been murdered by people who perhaps made one mistake but who basically just want their fair and universally deserved chance at the American dream, I think NOT.
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-WotHapToAmericanDream
What ever Happened to the American Dream? It Came TRUE -- you're lookin' at it.
LIBs pitting Man against other men until we exist no more; up down left right, the profit-motive of the forWARd capitalists is undeniably in evidence.
LIB cooperation, is appreciated, AND EXPECTED.
what about the dignimoms?
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If they're moms whose kids have been murdered by people who perhaps made one mistake but who basically just want their fair and universally deserved chance at the American dream, I think NOT.
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-WotHapToAmericanDream
What ever Happened to the American Dream? It Came TRUE -- you're lookin' at it.
LIBs pitting Man against other men until we exist no more; up down left right, the profit-motive of the forWARd capitalists is undeniably in evidence.
LIB cooperation, is appreciated, AND EXPECTED.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at April 08, 2026 12:10 PM (h4n6w)
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This action was never a war per se, but a punitive exercise to chastise an enemy. Regime change, all verbiage aside, would have only been an unlikely consequence. Others may not be satisfied but I am very pleased with the outcome.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 12:11 PM (pDt9x)
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175 This action was never a war per se, but a punitive exercise to chastise an enemy. Regime change, all verbiage aside, would have only been an unlikely consequence. Others may not be satisfied but I am very pleased with the outcome.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 12:11 PM (pDt9x)
Yes, but I would have liked a cut from the oil, or control of the Strait
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 12:11 PM (pDt9x)
Yes, but I would have liked a cut from the oil, or control of the Strait
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 12:12 PM (FtULh)
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Truth Social:
Numerous Agreements, Lists, and Letters are being sent out by people that have absolutely nothing to do with the U.S.A. / Iran Negotiation, in many cases, they are total Fraudsters, Charlatans, and WORSE. They will be rapidly exposed after our Federal Investigation is completed. There is only one group of meaningful “POINTS” that are acceptable to the United States, and we will be discussing them behind closed doors during these Negotiations. These are the POINTS that are the basis on which we agreed to a CEASEFIRE. It is something that is reasonable, and can easily be dispensed with. It’s very much like Fake News CNN last night, headlining a “source” that had no power or authority to write a Letter claiming great authority. President DONALD J. TRUMP
Numerous Agreements, Lists, and Letters are being sent out by people that have absolutely nothing to do with the U.S.A. / Iran Negotiation, in many cases, they are total Fraudsters, Charlatans, and WORSE. They will be rapidly exposed after our Federal Investigation is completed. There is only one group of meaningful “POINTS” that are acceptable to the United States, and we will be discussing them behind closed doors during these Negotiations. These are the POINTS that are the basis on which we agreed to a CEASEFIRE. It is something that is reasonable, and can easily be dispensed with. It’s very much like Fake News CNN last night, headlining a “source” that had no power or authority to write a Letter claiming great authority. President DONALD J. TRUMP
Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2026 12:12 PM (hCUcO)
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Maria Salazar is fighting like a puta for her DIGNIDAD Act (yes, it's named in Spanish), which is amnesty on steroids. She should be primaried out fired into the Sun.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM
FIFY.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM
FIFY.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2026 12:13 PM (bFu5X)
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Yes, but I would have liked a cut from the oil, or control of the Strait
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 12:12 PM (FtULh)
It might not be over.
Yes, but I would have liked a cut from the oil, or control of the Strait
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 12:12 PM (FtULh)
It might not be over.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 12:13 PM (pDt9x)
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CNN - Iran halts shipping in Hormuz after Israel attacks Lebanon.
Israel - Lebanon not part of the peace deal.
This is going as well as we all expected....
Israel - Lebanon not part of the peace deal.
This is going as well as we all expected....
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 08, 2026 12:13 PM (Sco7b)
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Sigh, can't always get what you want I guess, but I was hoping we would finally get the terror funding bastards out of power in Iran. Hormuz also now seems totally under control of Iran too. They are being allowed to charge, deny and delay traffic at their whim. But the nuke situation seems taken care of for now.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 08, 2026 12:01 PM
Trump's primary goal from day one was that iran can't be allowed to have a nuke. He has reiterated that many times. As far as the straits go, I don't think there is a workable solution short of sending troops in to seize the islands and that would mean a permanent presence there and constant warfare with iran for the foreseeable future. We could do it but the cost would fare outweigh the benefit and that is not a permanent solution.
Maybe this will get the region to finally construct the pipelines that they should have built the first time iran closed the straits back in the 70s. They have the plans and it is a straightforward construction project and all of the players have agreed in principle that they need to be built but they have been dithering for almost 50 years.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 08, 2026 12:01 PM
Trump's primary goal from day one was that iran can't be allowed to have a nuke. He has reiterated that many times. As far as the straits go, I don't think there is a workable solution short of sending troops in to seize the islands and that would mean a permanent presence there and constant warfare with iran for the foreseeable future. We could do it but the cost would fare outweigh the benefit and that is not a permanent solution.
Maybe this will get the region to finally construct the pipelines that they should have built the first time iran closed the straits back in the 70s. They have the plans and it is a straightforward construction project and all of the players have agreed in principle that they need to be built but they have been dithering for almost 50 years.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2026 12:13 PM (0N4FZ)
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Europe is in such a hole because they decided to financialize EVERYTHING. Production is not important, where it is possible to invest in someone else producing and then rake off most of the profit. So food production goes somewhere else, as does manufacturing and energy.
Spain had the same problem in the 1600s when they gold and silver from the Indies came in, and it was more profitable to deal in banking and loans than to actually make something. The US has a similar problem with the USD being the main currency for international trade, but most of that trade does seem to go through London and European banks.
Tariffs are bringing manufacturing home to us, but Europe doesn't have anything like that to fall back on.
Spain had the same problem in the 1600s when they gold and silver from the Indies came in, and it was more profitable to deal in banking and loans than to actually make something. The US has a similar problem with the USD being the main currency for international trade, but most of that trade does seem to go through London and European banks.
Tariffs are bringing manufacturing home to us, but Europe doesn't have anything like that to fall back on.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 08, 2026 12:13 PM (rbvCR)
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It might not be over.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 12:13 PM (pDt9x)
I'm hoping so... Trump is a good business man
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 12:13 PM (pDt9x)
I'm hoping so... Trump is a good business man
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 12:14 PM (FtULh)
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Nood. Playing for time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2026 12:14 PM (bss/y)
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Others may not be satisfied but I am very pleased with the outcome.
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 12:11 PM (pDt9x)
I'm pleased but want more. I'm patient as I may get more in time. None of us have a clue what is going on, nor does Iran.
Trump is no Carter or Bush (who is that Manfred above?)
Posted by: tubal at April 08, 2026 12:11 PM (pDt9x)
I'm pleased but want more. I'm patient as I may get more in time. None of us have a clue what is going on, nor does Iran.
Trump is no Carter or Bush (who is that Manfred above?)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 12:14 PM (WONhk)
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I want to mention one thing, I will never agree to play poker with President Trump.
Posted by: runner at April 08, 2026 12:14 PM (GD0B3)
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CNN - Iran halts shipping in Hormuz after Israel attacks Lebanon.
Israel - Lebanon not part of the peace deal.
This is going as well as we all expected....
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 08, 2026 12:13 PM
Fine. The bombings will continue until freedom improves.
Israel - Lebanon not part of the peace deal.
This is going as well as we all expected....
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 08, 2026 12:13 PM
Fine. The bombings will continue until freedom improves.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2026 12:14 PM (bFu5X)
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127 A -- I was aware of that and knew that it imposed huge restraints on Jimmuh's options. But the only brush that I used was a broad one, as Bob Ross had absconded with my smaller ones and then he screwed me over by passing away before telling me where he had hid them.
at least you can still paint broads.
at least you can still paint broads.
Posted by: anachronda at April 08, 2026 12:14 PM (oY6Yp)
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Retirement gives one the opportunity to learn new skills. Today, it's how the parchment paper decurling panel works.
Posted by: Oglebay at April 08, 2026 12:15 PM (GPa4z)
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Trump is no Carter or Bush (who is that Manfred above?)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 12:14 PM (WONhk)
If he doesn't have an Earth Band, I don't care who he is.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 08, 2026 12:14 PM (WONhk)
If he doesn't have an Earth Band, I don't care who he is.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 08, 2026 12:16 PM (y9ksN)
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And he waited until the actual trial date to plead guilty. He could have done that last year and given closure to the family but the little $hit dragged it out as long as he could and at the very last minute plead guilty.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2026 11:56 AM (0N4FZ)
I got selected for jury duty on a case where a man was accused of raping his former lover with a soda bottle in the "wrong hole".
He copped a plea bargain the moment we were seated. The only reason being apparently there were only 3 men on the jury and the lawyer didn't like the odds.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2026 11:56 AM (0N4FZ)
I got selected for jury duty on a case where a man was accused of raping his former lover with a soda bottle in the "wrong hole".
He copped a plea bargain the moment we were seated. The only reason being apparently there were only 3 men on the jury and the lawyer didn't like the odds.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 08, 2026 12:16 PM (WYStd)
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Yes, but I would have liked a cut from the oil, or control of the Strait
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 12:12 PM (FtULh)
Donna, we are probably going to get the insurance and re-insurance line since, unlike the Royal Navy and GB, we can assure free passage. That ain't peanuts.
Posted by: It's me donna at April 08, 2026 12:12 PM (FtULh)
Donna, we are probably going to get the insurance and re-insurance line since, unlike the Royal Navy and GB, we can assure free passage. That ain't peanuts.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 08, 2026 12:16 PM (rbvCR)
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They can't cover everything in human shields.
They cover power generation, take out distribution or cooling water. There are smart ways around giving the regime the dead bodies they desire. That we haven't is evidence to me that there is real movement toward a negotiated end to this.
They cover power generation, take out distribution or cooling water. There are smart ways around giving the regime the dead bodies they desire. That we haven't is evidence to me that there is real movement toward a negotiated end to this.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 08, 2026 12:21 PM (dK+Kv)
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Trump did not want to destroy iran he simply ran out of options to force them into negotiations.....
He didn't try this low-cost option:
why the fuck aren't we dropping 10's of thousands of ak47s and grenades into various cities? Litter the entire cities with small parachutes of individual Ak's and grenades and let these "freedom lovers" collect them from the streets and rooftops and see what kind of revolution they are prepared to do. Checkpoints of IRGC thugs will disappear if grenade and rifle fire is coming in from multiple directions.
He didn't try this low-cost option:
why the fuck aren't we dropping 10's of thousands of ak47s and grenades into various cities? Litter the entire cities with small parachutes of individual Ak's and grenades and let these "freedom lovers" collect them from the streets and rooftops and see what kind of revolution they are prepared to do. Checkpoints of IRGC thugs will disappear if grenade and rifle fire is coming in from multiple directions.
Posted by: hate_the_deepstate at April 08, 2026 12:26 PM (2Nfh9)
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None of this passes the smell test
Posted by: melodicmetal at April 08, 2026 12:29 PM (61TgR)
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why the fuck aren't we dropping 10's of thousands of ak47s and grenades into various cities? Litter the entire cities with small parachutes of individual Ak's and grenades and let these "freedom lovers" collect them from the streets and rooftops and see what kind of revolution they are prepared to do. Checkpoints of IRGC thugs will disappear if grenade and rifle fire is coming in from multiple directions.
Posted by: hate_the_deepstate at April 08, 2026 12:26 PM (2Nfh9)
Because you don’t want the guns to wind up with the enemy.
Praise Schlurpo many of you are not remotely involved in logistics.
Posted by: hate_the_deepstate at April 08, 2026 12:26 PM (2Nfh9)
Because you don’t want the guns to wind up with the enemy.
Praise Schlurpo many of you are not remotely involved in logistics.
Posted by: Cow Demon at April 08, 2026 12:38 PM (m2XKJ)
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Had to go out. Mea culpa.
Circling an alleged operational power plant were primarily older women in burkas representing one part of the "human chain" and men fearful of the IRGC or those not yet "made.
Bomb their wealth, bomb Kush Island.
Or watch & wait for the US "peacekeepers" to realize they're dealing with a different world too late.
"
Circling an alleged operational power plant were primarily older women in burkas representing one part of the "human chain" and men fearful of the IRGC or those not yet "made.
Bomb their wealth, bomb Kush Island.
Or watch & wait for the US "peacekeepers" to realize they're dealing with a different world too late.
"
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 08, 2026 12:46 PM (NFX2v)
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"Because you don’t want the guns to wind up with the enemy."
There are 100+million AK47's in the hands of people.
Our enemies have all the AK47's they want or need.
In this conflict, enemy small arms is essentially of no concern, and any arms dropped in matters not.
However the supposed Iranian street folks have nothing. Anything reaching them is potentially meaningful. Yes, some of these small arms will be swept up by IRGC but a lot will be picked up or channelled to people who may be willing to cause a revolt. That's why you parachute them in all at one time. The IRGC can't be everywhere.
"Praise Schlurpo many of you are not remotely involved in logistics."
Pfft. As demonstrated above, you have no imagination and haven't thought things through.
There are 100+million AK47's in the hands of people.
Our enemies have all the AK47's they want or need.
In this conflict, enemy small arms is essentially of no concern, and any arms dropped in matters not.
However the supposed Iranian street folks have nothing. Anything reaching them is potentially meaningful. Yes, some of these small arms will be swept up by IRGC but a lot will be picked up or channelled to people who may be willing to cause a revolt. That's why you parachute them in all at one time. The IRGC can't be everywhere.
"Praise Schlurpo many of you are not remotely involved in logistics."
Pfft. As demonstrated above, you have no imagination and haven't thought things through.
Posted by: hate_the_deepstate at April 08, 2026 12:50 PM (2Nfh9)
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SOROS has promised minimum $1000 victory bonuses.
Holding the rank of "COMISSAR" I expect $2/3000 .
Your military analyst credentials must have come from Trump University
The occupation of Iraq turned Iraq from being Irans worst enemy into Iraq now being Irans best friend
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Holding the rank of "COMISSAR" I expect $2/3000 .
Your military analyst credentials must have come from Trump University
The occupation of Iraq turned Iraq from being Irans worst enemy into Iraq now being Irans best friend
⁶
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at April 08, 2026 01:23 PM (FQukp)
200
194. Checkpoints of IRGC thugs will disappear if grenade and rifle fire is coming in from multiple directions.
Posted by: hate_the_deepstate
And they are the ilk who use their people as shields.
And if opposed to cluster bombs (& trip bombs, IEDs) and their damage (as I am), grenades seem no better.
Dropping weapons and ammo into anything but a controlled zone is insane, and we all know that gunwalking is not controllable.
Material suitable for nuclear weapons must be located and confiscated. A circular shootout could go on and on.
Posted by: hate_the_deepstate
And they are the ilk who use their people as shields.
And if opposed to cluster bombs (& trip bombs, IEDs) and their damage (as I am), grenades seem no better.
Dropping weapons and ammo into anything but a controlled zone is insane, and we all know that gunwalking is not controllable.
Material suitable for nuclear weapons must be located and confiscated. A circular shootout could go on and on.
Posted by: L - No nic.... at April 08, 2026 01:25 PM (NFX2v)
201
Says who? Most people that I knew wanted us to blow their shit to a deserved hell.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (g8Ew
I was 32 when all that crap happened, and I still remember all the banners on bridges over highways saying "BOMB IRAN!" People were pissed. And of course, the little ditty. Goes to Youtube.
https://tinyurl.com/y4bmjcxl
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2026 11:54 AM (g8Ew
I was 32 when all that crap happened, and I still remember all the banners on bridges over highways saying "BOMB IRAN!" People were pissed. And of course, the little ditty. Goes to Youtube.
https://tinyurl.com/y4bmjcxl
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at April 08, 2026 01:53 PM (5xuJ/)
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