Reaching a State of Readiness After Thanksgiving

The Jewish Approach to Thanksgiving Leftovers

Happy Thanksgiving Weekend! How many times did you hear, before Thanksgiving, "Are you ready for Thanksgiving"? Do you expect to hear in the upcoming weeks anything like, "Are you ready for Christmas"?

Who knows? Some things in life are predictable and other thngs are unpredictable.

It was just the two of us this year for Thanksgiving, and we tried to prepare for leftovers (especially after losing one of our refrigerators) by stretching the traditional Thanksgiving treats over several meals. But we still have leftovers. One faux pas so far: yesterday was "cook the turkey breast day", and I didn't realize that there was a gravy base packet inside the breast. I guess that makes up for the giblets and neck usually packaged with a whole turkey. But I had never seen one before. The gravy base packet got baked, too.

The plastic packet did not melt. I gamely tried to rescue the contents but some of the thickener had transformed into something resembling masses of amphibian eggs, and would not thin out. Oh, well. I added a can of chicken gravy and served it anyway.

I can't imagine anything like this occurring in, say, France.

Do people fry turkey breasts whole like they do whole turkeys? Frying one of these gravy packets could be a disaster. When I put the leftovers away, I added drippings from baking the turkey breast to the meat to keep it fresh-tasting, but the rescued gravy has been kept separate, perhaps for use with a future batch of aromatic dressing.

But on to some real content:

The Jewish people have become masters of transforming remnants into renewal

The roasted masterpiece that emerges proudly on Thursday afternoon will, by Friday morning, become a pale, slightly accusatory presence concealed in Tupperware or aluminum foil—what a food writer in The New York Times once called a “ghoulish reminder” of the day before—carved, dismembered, and waiting to be transformed into something, anything, edible.
By Friday, it will be turkey noodle soup. By Saturday, turkey enchiladas. By Sunday, turkey sandwiches. And by Monday, we will swear—once again—that we are done with turkey until next November.
But there’s a quiet wisdom buried in all that culinary improvisation. As the late Rabbi Robert Kahn of Houston’s Congregation Emanu El once said: Anyone can cook the turkey. The real creativity, the real art, lies in what we do with the leftovers.

Bible stories and intriguing thoughts at the link.

Whenever I think about leftovers—not food, but the leftovers of life—I find myself drawn back to Torah. As Jacob prepares to meet Esau after decades of estrangement, he divides his household, saying in effect: “If one group falls, perhaps a remnant will survive.” Jacob is planning for at least part of his tribe to become, well, leftovers. In the Book of Job, messengers come one after another with catastrophic news, each ending their terrible report with the chilling refrain: “I alone have escaped to tell you.” The last remaining witness. All that is left.
This year—as we look toward Thanksgiving—it feels impossible not to hear echoes of Job. Jewish anxiety has become a constant background hum, especially with the ever-increasing antisemitism coming from all sides. The simple act of gathering in joy feels both necessary and fragile. The story of Job is not ancient history. It is the emotional soundtrack beneath our holiday preparations.
So, before we even carve the turkey, we must ask: What do we do with what remains? What do we do with the fragments—the leftover hope, the leftover courage, the leftover faith—that we carry into this season?
Here is what I know: The Jewish people have become virtuosos of leftovers. . .

Have you prepared some leftovers worth keeping?

Preparing for the Predictable

Niall Ferguson:

Every parent should read @JonHaidt's latest. But note that the kids most resistant to the Devil's brew of smartphones and social media are the ones who are conservative and religious. Secularization paved the way for the descent into despondency that Jon has so ably documented.

Looks like Ferguson is coming around to his wife's point of view. She recently accepted Christianity after years as a famous atheist.

So yes, replace the iPhones with books. But also take the kids to church or synagogue.

Haidt's piece is behind a paywall.

Jonathan Haidt: The Devil's Plan to Ruin the Next Generation

Earlier this year, someone started a viral trend of asking ChatGPT this question: If you were the devil, how would you destroy the next generation, without them even knowing it?
Chat’s responses were profound and unsettling: “I wouldn’t come with violence. I’d come with convenience.” “I’d keep them busy. Always distracted.”

“I’d watch their minds rot slowly, sweetly, silently. And the best part is, they’d never know it was me. They’d call it freedom.”
As a social psychologist who has been trying since 2015 to figure out what on earth was happening to Gen Z, I was stunned. Why? Because what the AI proposed doing is pretty much what technology seems to be doing to children today. It seemed to be saying: If the devil wanted to destroy a generation, he could just give them all smartphones.

The evidence keeps piling up.

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Ready for technological changes?

There are some malevolent characteristics of tech described just above. But what if it quits working altogether?

AoSHQ got off pretty light in the recent Cloudflare disruptions. But how would we communicate if something more serious or long-lasting happened?

What if the electrical grid went down?

What are our back-ups? Know anyone who does ham radio?

I have decided that one thing I can do right now is give some people manual can openers that really work for Christmas. And get some cash on hand. I'll be thinking about communications, too.

Got any readiness plans for the near future?

These are some readiness plans at the UN. Makes you wonder if they have read any recent news:

Climate change is deepening inequalities — and increasing the risk of gender-based violence for women and girls.

On the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women, let’s act #ForAllWomenAndGirls and build a safer, more climate-resilient future. #16Days pic.twitter.com/bVu6KvMivp
— UN Environment Programme (@UNEP) November 25, 2025

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Weekend

VDH discusses a recent event in which he participated, in Bakersfield, CA. He is heartened by the development of some conservative organizations there, in a difficult state, climate, etc. Segment starts at about 41 minutes, just after he discusses the travails of the editorial process for a real book.

On this episode of “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words,” Victor Davis Hanson and @jackfowler take aim at the six congressional Democrats who called on military members to defy “illegal” orders from the Commander-in-Chief.https://t.co/9GodSjgeSz
— Victor Davis Hanson (@VDHanson) November 26, 2025

There has been some opposition to individual conservatives in Bakersfield in the recent past. If they can make progress there, maybe some other communities can do some similar things.

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Music

A different presentation of a familiar pre-Christmas song:

I still like this instrumental, though:

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, November 22, Preparing for Thanksgiving - Gratitude

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:01 AM

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1 he roasted masterpiece that emerges proudly on Thursday afternoon will, by Friday morning, become a pale, slightly accusatory presence concealed in Tupperware or aluminum foil—what a food writer in The New York Times once called a “ghoulish reminder” of the day before—carved, dismembered, and waiting to be transformed into something, anything, edible.

By Friday, it will be turkey noodle soup. By Saturday, turkey enchiladas. By Sunday, turkey sandwiches. And by Monday, we will swear—once again—that we are done with turkey until next November.

But there’s a quiet wisdom buried in all that culinary improvisation. As the late Rabbi Robert Kahn of Houston’s Congregation Emanu El once said: Anyone can cook the turkey. The real creativity, the real art, lies in what we do with the leftovers.

The author completely fails to mention turkey stock - the foundation of many poultry-based dishes for the year to come. Don't throw out all those bones, necks, giblets, etc., reuse them to make something delicious!

Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:07 AM (Riz8t)

2 Climate change is deepening inequalities — and increasing the risk of gender-based violence for women and girls.

Of course it is. Everything does.

Get a new schtick - this one is worn out.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:08 AM (Riz8t)

3 TG is NOT over for me. We have my wife's large family coming over today, so we're completely replicating the dinner we already had on the official TG day, but with a 23 lb "turkey".

Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:09 AM (Riz8t)

4 Wow, I'm starting to get lonely.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)

5 Sewing machine noob struggles
Stabbed my finger with a pin
Broke the sewing machine needle

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 11:10 AM (znREB)

6 Is everyone in a turkey coma?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:11 AM (Riz8t)

7 Poll Shows Cornyn Slipping to Third in GOP Senate Primary
51 percent of likely Republican voters hold an unfavorable view of the incumbent senator, according to the polling.
https://shorturl.at/UJ5h5
Texas Scorecard

Only 51%?! Do better, Texas!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 11:11 AM (ULPxl)

8 Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (3U2FH)

9 Poll Shows Cornyn Slipping to Third in GOP Senate Primary

I can't wait for him to be publicly humiliated and tossed out on his condescending backside.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (Riz8t)

10 Wild turkeys are savvy and able to survive and thrive in the wild. Domestic turkeys are very dumb creatures. Kind of like humans in cities.

Posted by: Sweet Rural Shade at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (oftw2)

11 Like a newbie,
Read the post at the very first time .
La la la.

Posted by: RI Red at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (+hwtP)

12 Sorry Archie, everyone still arguing religions on the prayer thread.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:13 AM (sl73Y)

13 All that’s left is a bit of pumpkin pie. Everything else has been eaten.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:14 AM (uDDWT)

14 Sorry Archie, everyone still arguing religions on the prayer thread.

Again???

Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:14 AM (Riz8t)

15 8 Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (3U2FH)

I hate you.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at November 29, 2025 11:15 AM (PiwSw)

16 Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance.

Agree. Thank god nobody invented an electric vegetable peeler.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:15 AM (sl73Y)

17 Earlier this year, someone started a viral trend of asking ChatGPT this question: If you were the devil, how would you destroy the next generation, without them even knowing it?
Chat’s responses were profound and unsettling: “I wouldn’t come with violence. I’d come with convenience.” “I’d keep them busy. Always distracted.”

If ChatGPT said that, it is not because of silicon based reason, it is because it has encountered a number of documents in its training data that express this sentiment and algorithmically associate this to the query.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:16 AM (a4flb)

18 8 Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?
Posted by: Tom Servo

When you wear out your thumbs by age 60, don't come crying to me!

Posted by: Prince Albert In The Can at November 29, 2025 11:16 AM (oftw2)

19 Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:07 AM

I save the bones, extra skin, etc. but I know that some folks do fancy stuff like roasting bones and veggies. Before or after baking a turkey?

Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 11:17 AM (7vIsy)

20 I remember having electric can opener growing up. I guess it was a thing back then? I concur with the sentiment that it’s a dumb, space waster providing no real value.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:17 AM (uDDWT)

21 15 8 Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Severe arthritis is why. It hurts to open a can that way. And Hamilton has a safe edge electric can opener that is the cat's meow. Opens the can around the top edge of the can rather than inside edge. Result, smooth edge and much less risk of cutting oneself.

Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 11:17 AM (WDjG6)

22 From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:15 AM

Someone gave us an electric potato peeler as a wedding present.

Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 11:18 AM (7vIsy)

23 As I've aged, I miss risk taking adventures.
A hand can opener is a poor substitute, but all I've got.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:19 AM (sl73Y)

24 NJ is about to give everybody a lesson in what happens if you don’t get off your ass to vote. They are staffing up the New Governor AWFL’s administration with Biden retreads convinced they just don’t try hard enough with their agenda. They already have some of the highest energy prices in the country and that’s about to get worse. So is the tax situation and the general business malaise they have created. On top of that the nanny state is encouraged and likely to start going down the list of rights they don’t want you to have starting with the Second Amendment. The schools are about to get worse and illegal aliens are being given everything meant for citizens, and nothing they deserve.

Congratulations. This is what our country will look like if people don’t decide that voting in the midterms is more important than their vacation to Turks.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 29, 2025 11:19 AM (egaJw)

25 We have "people" to open our cans.

Posted by: Scion of Wealth And Privilege at November 29, 2025 11:19 AM (oftw2)

26 If ChatGPT said that, it is not because of silicon based reason, it is because it has encountered a number of documents in its training data that express this sentiment and algorithmically associate this to the query.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:16 AM (a4flb)

Starting with Aldous Huxley, Brave New World. He remembered to add in drugs as well.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 11:20 AM (3U2FH)

27 I save the bones, extra skin, etc. but I know that some folks do fancy stuff like roasting bones and veggies. Before or after baking a turkey?

I do that. It all depends on whether you want a "white" or "dark" stock. I find that the former lacks all conviction, so I do the latter. Some of the stuff (giblets, neck, etc.) can be done at any time, but obviously the bones from the roast turkey have already been roasted. Still, a bit of time in the oven caramelizes the remaining shreds of meat and there's lots of flavor there (think fond). I don't really know how the collagen in the bones survives the roasting but I do know that after I'm done and the proto-stock has been cooled in the frig overnight, it assumes a gelatin consistency so there's lots of collagen there.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)

28 >>> Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (3U2FH)

I had a nice B&D electric can opener. You could take it off it's wall mount and place it on a can and it would just spin around opening it. I loved it. But the batteries inside failed after about 20 years and I couldn't figure out how to replace them. So I have a hand crank one now which will last longer than I do. But if they could make the B&D model with better batteries, or a MrFusion inside, I'd buy it in a second.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2025 11:22 AM (3uBP9)

29 Congratulations. This is what our country will look like if people don’t decide that voting in the midterms is more important than their vacation to Turks.
Posted by: Vengeance

People on the right have this bad habit of voting for President then forgetting about politics for the next 4 years.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:22 AM (uDDWT)

30 Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?

There is no more effective device on this planet to ferret out a hidden or missing cat than by using an electric can opener on a can of wet cat food.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:23 AM (a4flb)

31 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 11:24 AM (Ia/+0)

32 Congratulations. This is what our country will look like if people don’t decide that voting in the midterms is more important than their vacation to Turks.
Posted by: Vengeance

You might be idly interested in the fact that suddenly 500k voters for teh Dems materialized on Election season that had not voted regularly before.

Or not.

I don't think you can trust any voting system in the US today for accurately representing the will of the people because at heart, the Democrats rely on electoral cheating and rigging in order to stay in power.

Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 11:24 AM (WDjG6)

33 Hmmmmmm.

BREAKING: President Trump says the airspace “above and surrounding” Venezuela is now “closed in its entirety.”

It appears that something is about to happen in Venezuela.

https://is.gd/c5Q4Hv

Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t)

34 Posts on various sites purporting that airspace in and around Venezuela is "closed" to all commercial air traffic.

So, it would appear Maduro has reached the FO part of FA.

Perhaps.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2025 11:26 AM (NwnyJ)

35 Do people still buy trash compactors? It was a popular prize on game shows in the 70s, 80s.

Posted by: The Joker's Wild at November 29, 2025 11:26 AM (oftw2)

36 My area always goes yuuuugely Republican in presidential elections. And every other race that happens in that election. We have governor, state reps and senate and county races in presidential years. It’s deep deep red each time.

We have local elections in odd years following presidential elections. There, the left wins decisively every time. Just happened this past election. Complete sweep of every office by the left. Wasn’t even close.

Why? Because turnout in odd years is 1/3 of what it is in presidential years. The right stays home the left shows up. Can’t win a game where you’re not even playing.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:26 AM (uDDWT)

37 >>> I save the bones, extra skin, etc. but I know that some folks do fancy stuff like roasting bones and veggies. Before or after baking a turkey?
Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 11:17 AM (7vIsy)

I smoked my turkey, and in the drip pan below I placed the bones, skin, and stuff with some veggies. All next to the coals. So you get turkey dripping into it all and being roasted the whole time. I used the dripping for the stock that I made stuffing with. I'm still figuring out how to smoke in the kettle, specifically how to get the temps to stay low and steady.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2025 11:27 AM (3uBP9)

38 Ahhh, the Horde collective at work....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2025 11:27 AM (NwnyJ)

39 Ok, fine. Let's talk about the leftovers. Soup - who eats soup anyway ?! quesadilla , tacos - Mexican slop! Sandwiches - this is the way to go.

Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 11:27 AM (g47mK)

40 There is no more effective device on this planet to ferret out a hidden or missing cat than by using an electric can opener on a can of wet cat food.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
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Most cans seem to be pull tops now. But, they have the same effect. My cat will come running if he hears that. The other 3 cats have differing reactions.

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 29, 2025 11:27 AM (VCgbV)

41 Whig,

If you keep blaming it on fraud nothing will ever change. It’s not 500k new votes or whatever. It’s turnout. They show up, we don’t. It’s that simple.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:28 AM (uDDWT)

42 Do people still buy trash compactors? It was a popular prize on game shows in the 70s, 80s.

They existed for one reason: Garbage collection companies charged by the bag or by the volume of garbage being picked up.

The answer for us was to burn as much as possible, food scraps to their place and crush everything else into one carry-on luggage sized bag of twisted metal and broken glass.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:28 AM (a4flb)

43 Vmom, I've been sewing for decades, and still stick fingers and break needles. Occupational hazard.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 29, 2025 11:29 AM (h7ZuX)

44 Read the content!

I know, I know - it's a surprise that I can read.

HA!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 11:29 AM (cYBz/)

45 Two houses ago I had a trash compactor. House was built in 2005 which was surprising to have it. But I liked it. Cut down on the number of trips to the garbage bin by a lot.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:29 AM (uDDWT)

46 @5 That was very close to being a Singer haiku.
If you can get the bobbin tension right, you'll have a new art form.

"Prince Albert in The Can." There's a blast from the past:
Lots of cans, including the tobacco tin, used to have a self-opener key that wound up a little strip of metal as it peeled the can open. The strip of metal was sharp, but dangerously attractive. Cute.
Tuna cans, sardines, Argentine bully beef, some coffee. I miss that.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 29, 2025 11:30 AM (zdLoL)

47 We have one drumstick, which I'll eat today. A bit of ham, pie, and dressing left. It will all be gone today.

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 29, 2025 11:30 AM (VCgbV)

48 The Paolo knows about opening m'ladys can.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 11:30 AM (KYNqM)

49 Hmmmmmm.

BREAKING: President Trump says the airspace “above and surrounding” Venezuela is now “closed in its entirety.”

It appears that something is about to happen in Venezuela.

https://is.gd/c5Q4Hv
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t)

Something Wonderful

Posted by: Dave Bowman at November 29, 2025 11:30 AM (3uBP9)

50 If you keep blaming it on fraud nothing will ever change.

Since politicians routinely lie to us, I'm fully willing to lie to them and say it isn't their policies that they need to lie about, if they want to maintain power as Republicans, they need to enact election laws that reduce / eliminate fraud.

They can continue to be lying weasels and garden variety reprobates, but try rigging the game in their own favor at least by pretending that their supporters outnumber the enemy's and a win is simply to deny the enemy the ability to manufacture enough ballots to "win" an "election".

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:31 AM (a4flb)

51 in 2019. after a post by my stepson's girlfriend, trying to borrow an egg because she was out, I decided to take action for Christmas. I got a copy of "Food Security for the Faint of Heart", a favorite because it also talks about gardens. I got some preserved stuff that she normally wouldn't know about like canned bacon, butter and preserved eggs. I don't know if the lesson took, but I think it did. I upgraded my dehydrator and canner and gave her my originals. And I took another look at what I had on hand.

But this is your !reminder, if coffee is the most important thing for you, it's very simple to put together a kit to have coffee even when the power goes down. I have that stuff and I don't even drink coffee

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2025 11:31 AM (+mUZM)

52 Are we seriously going to war against…… Venezuela?

Maybe we can dust off the purple paint Dubya used in Iraq for their elections.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:32 AM (uDDWT)

53 My cat will come running if he hears that. The other 3 cats have differing reactions.
Posted by: lin-duh

What, does everyone in the house have their own cat?
I can see some great arguments around the litter box.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:33 AM (sl73Y)

54 RandoLand.us @RandoLand_us

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Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 11:33 AM (P5BPp)

55 I should have made this entry on the prayer/100 year war/war of northern aggression thread ! But here is good too !

https://tinyurl.com/mthy9uy9

Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 11:34 AM (g47mK)

56 I insist y'all watch it !

Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 11:34 AM (g47mK)

57 Blah blah blah, Chat GPT.

I remember when the WWW was the new hotness, and I was one of those dumb dorks who thought information wanted to be free or somesuch gay ass truism, and my old man put me right.

At the time, I thought he was an out of touch oldster - I have profusely apologized and admitted just how wrong I was many times since.

He told me that the internet was a powerful technology, and if I thought the TPTB would let it be an engine of liberty then I was in for a nasty surprise, because they would harness its power as an engine of tyranny, and sell it to us as an engine of convenience.

Very few predictions anyone has ever made to me turned out more accurately. It's like he had a crystal ball.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:35 AM (BI5O2)

58 I’m Not saying fraud doesn’t exist. Of course it does. But when an election goes +15 like it did in NJ, that wasn’t fraud.

Fraud is a tight race which suddenly finds 1500 ballots at 4am to put the Dem up by 1200 when he was down by 200. And that happens. Of course.

But when the margin is 500k votes, thats an ass kicking, not fraud.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:36 AM (uDDWT)

59 I don't think you can trust any voting system in the US today for accurately representing the will of the people because at heart, the Democrats rely on electoral cheating and rigging in order to stay in power.

That is why a winning slogan of Trump's 2024 victory was "Beat the Cheat".

The Enemy is going to leverage as much fraud as possible, yet Normals have to show up in such numbers that they can even afford to have 5% of their votes lost or changed.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:36 AM (a4flb)

60 Vmom, I've been sewing for decades, and still stick fingers and break needles. Occupational hazard.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

That reminds me - after Sleeping Beauty was asleep for 100 years, some strange dude breaks into her room and kisses her without permission!?

SHE WAS ASSAULTED PEOPLE!! WAKE UP TO THE MISOGYNY!!! (Literally!)

Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 11:36 AM (cYBz/)

61 I’ve been thinking that Trump has been pulling a big bluff on Maduro, trying to get him to do something really stupid. But with this I wonder.

I don’t see any need for an actual invasion, Maduro’s government can be broken much more easily than that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 11:36 AM (3U2FH)

62 What, does everyone in the house have their own cat?
I can see some great arguments around the litter box.
Posted by: From about That Time
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Unfortunately, that about sums it up. 2 of my 3 kids have a cat, I have 1, and we have the next door neighbors cat that we have adopted when they pretty much forgot to feed her regularly, my son's cat brought her home....😳🤨

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 29, 2025 11:37 AM (VCgbV)

63 The Kobeissi Letter @KobeissiLetter

AI infrastructure is driving electricity costs higher:

US industrial electricity prices in the top 5 states with the most data centers have surged +43% over the last 5 years.

These states are Virginia, Texas, California, Illinois, and Ohio.

By comparison, prices have risen +26% nationally over the same period.

Prices in both groups rose at a similar pace up until late 2022, coinciding with the release of ChatGPT in November 2022.

In those 5 states, household electricity costs have increased +7.0% annually since 2022, outpacing the +5.5% national rate.

Consequently, electricity prices in CPI inflation have soared +36% since 2020, while overall inflation has increased +25%.

AI demand is driving household power bills higher.

X: https://bit.ly/4402yVP

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 11:37 AM (P5BPp)

64 Fraud is a tight race which suddenly finds 1500 ballots at 4am to put the Dem up by 1200 when he was down by 200. And that happens. Of course.

Insert the famous 2AM Water Pipe Breakage chart where the curves had Biden losing, but mysteriously several million ballots appeared out of thin air causing a vertical spike before resuming the curve.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:37 AM (a4flb)

65 I’m skeptical of the AI electricity arguments. Feels a lot like the anti-fracking stuff from 15 years ago.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:39 AM (uDDWT)

66 Trash compactors just get stinky. By the time you fill it everything has the stank.
Stupid idea.

Posted by: Rerorger at November 29, 2025 11:39 AM (lROFx)

67 Very few predictions anyone has ever made to me turned out more accurately. It's like he had a crystal ball.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:35 AM (BI5O2)

Your dad is a wise man.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 29, 2025 11:41 AM (h7ZuX)

68 I'm about to have a turkey egg and bacon breakfast burrito, then thanksgiving leftovers pizza for dinner, and I'll cook up a batch of turkey curry for another day. Also have a thigh, drumstick, and white meat in the freezer. Stock was made too, of course.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 11:41 AM (kpS4V)

69 Someone gave us an electric potato peeler as a wedding present.
Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 11:18 AM (7vIsy)
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You laugh! I've got one--the Rotato Express--and I love it. The peel comes off in a thin strip and several years ago one of the kids tried deep frying the strips and it's now become a favorite snack.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 11:41 AM (3ImbR)

70 This is the hard data problem:

US industrial electricity prices in the top 5 states with the most data centers have surged +43% over the last 5 years.

Here is the bullshit narrative as to the cause:
AI infrastructure is driving electricity costs higher:

The Reality:
Gutting your state/country of much of its reliable, dispatchable thermal generated power and replacing it with vanity power projects that cost hundreds of billions and don't yield power on demand is behind the increase. Don't forget the hundreds of billions in rate-payer subsidies to those who installed solar panels to be used in a net power arrangement.

The money made in the utility scale electricity market is not the regulated generation rates, its in the building any form of infrastructure (even if totally worthless or counter productive) and passing the Hollywood Accounting costs to the consumer in the form of higher rates.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:44 AM (a4flb)

71 I merely have to say that Lib-Prog sloganeering has become Madlibs

No person is tax neutral
US Supremacy hurts Gender neutrality
Police states is a remnant of Slavery
BLM encourages food equity
Whites inhibit housing justice
Public education is Immigration reform

Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (rbvCR)

72 Do people still buy trash compactors? It was a popular prize on game shows in the 70s, 80s.

"Oh what a great idea. I can put a week's worth of trash in one bag."

"Crap, this bag weighs a hundred pounds. What a dumb idea."

Posted by: Oddbob at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (3nLb4)

73 Yet, holiday cooking disasters are what can make them memorable.
Glad yours wasn't KT

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (Ia/+0)

74 The Reality:
Gutting your state/country of much of its reliable, dispatchable thermal generated power and replacing it with vanity power projects that cost hundreds of billions and don't yield power on demand is behind the increase. Don't forget the hundreds of billions in rate-payer subsidies to those who installed solar panels to be used in a net power arrangement.

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That’s a BINGO!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (uDDWT)

75 The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!

Posted by: Food Safety Commission at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (oftw2)

76 I've got a whole cherry almond crisp leftover, but no ice cream. I refuse to eat it without ice cream.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 11:46 AM (XvL8K)

77 The Reality:
Gutting your state/country of much of its reliable, dispatchable thermal generated power and replacing it with vanity power projects that cost hundreds of billions and don't yield power on demand is behind the increase. Don't forget the hundreds of billions in rate-payer subsidies to those who installed solar panels to be used in a net power arrangement.

The money made in the utility scale electricity market is not the regulated generation rates, its in the building any form of infrastructure (even if totally worthless or counter productive) and passing the Hollywood Accounting costs to the consumer in the form of higher rates.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:44 AM

Good point. I wonder how much of the energy cost increase is due to all the idiots in state governments going to unreliable solar and wind power.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 11:46 AM (P5BPp)

78 The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!

Pfffffft!

Posted by: The drain of your kitchen sink at November 29, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)

79 I've got a whole cherry almond crisp leftover, but no ice cream. I refuse to eat it without ice cream.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 11:46 AM (XvL8K)
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Mmmmm. Jergens.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 11:47 AM (3ImbR)

80 I misspelled my own nic.

Wife and I when we moved into this place used a grocery bag on the pantry door before we moved the kitchen stuff.
It stuck. We took one look at the can and decided the bag thing was better. I haven't had to clean a garbage can or buy garbage can bags in 23 years.
I goes out every night. New bag in the morning. Never stinks. Bags come with the groceries.

I can't conceive of a better way to do it and compactors are the worst.

Posted by: Reforger at November 29, 2025 11:48 AM (lROFx)

81 Looking back at the strikes we ran on Iran's nuclear enrichment facilities, and the misdirection from the USAF flying tankers and B-2 bombers into the Pacific as a ruse...

.... I don't think the current activity in and around Venezuela is the attack most think is coming. Strikes against the various drug cartels there are certainly likely, but I'd think we would prefer to have Maduro's anti-air capabilities neutered first.

And his air force, such that it is, grounded.

Maduro's going to jackrabbit before it gets to that.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2025 11:48 AM (NwnyJ)

82 Will the Rotato Express work for manscaping? I always try to look my very best!

Posted by: Beau Brummell at November 29, 2025 11:48 AM (oftw2)

83 I’m skeptical of the AI electricity arguments. Feels a lot like the anti-fracking stuff from 15 years ago.

You should be. The Climate Hoaxers who have fleeced us for literally trillions of dollars and have violated the environment with horrid windmill and solar farms and every single carbon trading scheme (which costs hundreds of billions for the sole purpose of rewarding the brokers collecting a vig and the inefficient routing of money).

You think the NGOs the Metas, the Walmarts, the Googles who have brought billions of dollars worth of worthless windmills into the rate charging game for the purpose of tax breaks and carbon trading credits did it because of social altruism?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:49 AM (a4flb)

84 >>>Only 51%?! Do better, Texas!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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There are a vast number of people who are rational and are capable of making a rational voting decision but rely 90% on the commercials that they see on TV and 6 o'clock news.

It's an honest dilemma, they are husband/ wife/ mother/ employee/ maid/ handyman etc. They depend on the media to bring them accurate information.

He who has the money and best commercials has the best chance to win.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 11:49 AM (Wt3Iw)

85 "Jews are masters at leftovers"

This reads like one of those articles about how millennials are re-creating society by inventing co-habitation, lateral promotions, and mindful spending.....you know: roommates, job-hopping, and budgeting.

Posted by: harbqll at November 29, 2025 11:49 AM (D2KR+)

86 The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!
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Pfffffft!
Posted by: The drain of your kitchen sink

Feed me frequently and keep me warm and moist. Thanks.

Posted by: The bacteria on your dish sponge at November 29, 2025 11:50 AM (3nLb4)

87 The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!

Pfffffft!
Posted by: The drain of your kitchen sink
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Bleach, alcohol, soap....worst case, move!

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 29, 2025 11:50 AM (VCgbV)

88 "Oh what a great idea. I can put a week's worth of trash in one bag."

"Crap, this bag weighs a hundred pounds. What a dumb idea."
Posted by: Oddbob at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (3nLb4)

Age old conundrum: Get a bag big enough to where you do not have to empty it as often or get a smaller bag that is easier to carry, but fills up overnight it seems.

I think it is between 13 and 30 gal bags. I bounce between the two. Right now I am using 13 gals ones and they seem to fill up quick as thought.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 11:51 AM (bss/y)

89 72 We had a trash compactor. A Thermador. Got it for cheap, and knowing the guys I got it from it probably fell off the back of the truck. High end, noisy, took special bags and pretty damn fussy about what you put in it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 29, 2025 11:51 AM (gm9Sb)

90 Go Buckeyes!

Posted by: Otto Pen at November 29, 2025 11:52 AM (sJHOI)

91 God I fucking hated those “millenials are totally changing the way we do X” articles. It’s like no honey, you’re just renaming things. You’re still doing what your parents and grandparents did.

Oh and get this, people had sex before you as well. You’re not revolutionizing that either.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:52 AM (uDDWT)

92 It's a classic.

https://is.gd/diusOz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 11:53 AM (L/fGl)

93 I need to remove the old trash compactor in Mom's (now my) kitchen. It's noisy and hard to close and I never use it. I could use that space to store baking sheet pans.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 11:54 AM (kpS4V)

94 If you keep blaming it on fraud nothing will ever change. It’s not 500k new votes or whatever. It’s turnout. They show up, we don’t. It’s that simple.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:28 AM (uDDWT)

It is when it is 125% turnout is specific voting areas, dimwit. It is when the State SOS won't allow audits of the voting roles, dimwit.

Stop calling people losers.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:54 AM (rbvCR)

95 Will there be a traditional War On Christmas this year?

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 29, 2025 11:54 AM (WSkUC)

96 A lot of Ashkenazi "cuisine" is just the art & science of turning trash into nutrients.

"I saw a coyote leave this on the ground. I bet if we boiled it, we could eat it."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:54 AM (BI5O2)

97 Bleach, alcohol, soap....worst case, move!
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 29, 2025 11:50 AM (VCgbV)
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Tactical mini nuke.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 11:55 AM (kpS4V)

98 >>> 77 The Reality:
Gutting your state/country of much of its reliable, dispatchable thermal generated power and replacing it with vanity power projects that cost hundreds of billions and don't yield power on demand is behind the increase. Don't forget the hundreds of billions in rate-payer subsidies to those who installed solar panels to be used in a net power arrangement.

The money made in the utility scale electricity market is not the regulated generation rates, its in the building any form of infrastructure (even if totally worthless or counter productive) and passing the Hollywood Accounting costs to the consumer in the form of higher rates.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:44 AM

Good point. I wonder how much of the energy cost increase is due to all the idiots in state governments going to unreliable solar and wind power.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 11:46 AM (P5BPp)

Thank feralgov for bullshit anti-energy regs. Jim SND used to rant every so often about (iirc) 2 or 3 coal plants in the Houston area being dismantled during the JEF admin because they "hurt the air".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 11:55 AM (ULPxl)

99 The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!
Posted by: Food Safety Commission

BULL SH*T!! The wheel provides immunity from all sorts of ailments. This is as dumb as washing the Chief's coffee mug.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 11:56 AM (cYBz/)

100 When I moved to the country I bought a made in Kansas, "American Brand" wall mounted manual can opener. It worked well for about 10 years. Tried to buy a new one but the company was out of business.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 11:56 AM (Wt3Iw)

101 #94: is already preparing for the midterm results.
SOROS has booked time on those Italian satalittes to change the totals on the voting machines

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 29, 2025 11:57 AM (WSkUC)

102 It is when it is 125% turnout is specific voting areas, dimwit. It is when the State SOS won't allow audits of the voting roles, dimwit.

Stop calling people losers.
Posted by: Kindltot

Ok keep blaming the ref because your QB threw 5 interceptions.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:57 AM (uDDWT)

103 Manual can openers. Show of hands! How many here have a P38 on their key ring?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 29, 2025 11:58 AM (gm9Sb)

104 When I moved to the country I bought a made in Kansas, "American Brand" wall mounted manual can opener. It worked well for about 10 years. Tried to buy a new one but the company was out of business.

Posted by: Braenyard

EZ-DUZ-IT still makes a pretty good handheld one.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 11:58 AM (cYBz/)

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