Thinking about Rousseau and some of today's leftists

Considering the out-sized influence of Rousseau and some of his disciples on our civilization, his life and some events surrounding his death are marked by ironies. There are ironies in some of today's young leftists which remind me of certain stories about Rousseau.

I put this together as an analytical tool to better understand these issues and how they align. Replace Fabianism with Gloablist/Technocratic managerialism for countries without Fabianism but similar situation. It’s not designed to offende of create grievance, by god we have… pic.twitter.com/0CR2BRlWc8
— aoattes (@andyoattes) October 10, 2025

Do you agree with the graphic representation above?

Rousseau's Children and Education

Philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau wrote a seminal text on education and raising children. He also abandoned five of his own children soon after their births.

Rousseau’s book Emile, or On Education, is a notable proto-modern take on education. It was one of the first to move the focus of schooling away from teacher-centred instruction and towards child-centred curiosity and discovery. It also included a take on religion that led to the book being banned and burned. And it also included a take on female education (they shouldn’t be educated, lest they take over!)

The Taliban might agree!

The elder statesperson of French philosophy and letters at the time, Voltaire, was one notable critic. Rousseau, funnily enough, was an admirer of Voltaire. but he received mostly condemnation and bad reviews from Voltaire in return. Voltaire despised Emile, except for the anti-religious bit, which he called “among the boldest ever known.” Voltaire had written his own religious treatise – The Sermon of the Fifty – under a pseudonym. Rousseau outed him as the author, to Voltaire’s dismay. Time for some revenge!
Voltaire dug up a dirty secret of Rousseau’s, one that had been doing the rounds but had never been made public. Rousseau, that paragon of educational theory, was in fact the father of five children. And all five of those children had been abandoned at a foundling hospital at Rousseau’s urging. Voltaire published an anonymous pamphlet bringing this awful secret to light.
Rousseau’s partner, Marie-Thérèse Levasseur, was from a formerly prominent family that had fallen on hard times, and when she gave birth Rousseau (and Levasseur’s own mother) urged her to send their son to an orphanage. He claimed it was to preserve her honour (ew), but Rousseau later claimed it was because he was worried that the child would be better educated there (ew ew). Four more children followed, each following their elder sibling to the foundling hospital (ew ew ew). Rousseau later tried to track them down, but by that time they were probably all dead (ew ew ew ew).

This is what Rousseau had to say about the whole ugly affair:
Five children were born of [our] liaison, and all were placed in the Foundling’s Hospital, and with so little thought of the possibility of their identification that I did not even keep a record of their dates of birth [or of their gender]. For several years now, the self-reproach which my neglectful behavior has aroused in me has disturbed my peace of mind and I am about to die [a frequent condition in Rousseau’s life] without being able to remedy it, much to the mother’s and my own regret.

Failing to keep a record of his childrens' genders seems rather modern!

Rousseau's Influence

Do you recognize characteristics of any young leftists in this short summary from Britannica's biography?

Jean-Jacques Rousseau (born June 28, 1712, Geneva, Switzerland—died July 2, 1778, Ermenonville, France) was a Swiss-born philosopher, writer, and political theorist whose treatises and novels inspired the leaders of the French Revolution and the Romantic generation.
Rousseau was the least academic of modern philosophers and in many ways was the most influential. His thought marked the end of the European Enlightenment (the “Age of Reason”. He propelled political and ethical thinking into new channels. His reforms revolutionized taste, first in music, then in the other arts. He had a profound impact on people’s way of life; he taught parents to take a new interest in their children and to educate them differently; he furthered the expression of emotion rather than polite restraint in friendship and love. He introduced the cult of religious sentiment among people who had discarded religious dogma. He opened people’s eyes to the beauties of nature, and he made liberty an object of almost universal aspiration.

The entire biography is quite extensive and academic, however.

Does any of the summary above reinforce what Voltaire said? “No one has ever employed so much intellect to persuade men to be beasts. In reading your work one is seized with a desire to walk on all fours.”

Do "furries" come to anyone's mind?

Rousseau's Death

Reportedly, after he wrote Emile, or On Education, Rousseau was forced to become a fugitive from the French government due to official uproar over the book, though he was never imprisoned. He still had patrons. He died in July of 1778.

From A Daily Dose of History, Oct. 11:

By the time of his death in 1778 at age 66, Jean-Jacques Rousseau was world famous as a philosopher, novelist, composer, and all-around polymath. He was buried at midnight, by torchlight, on the Isle of Poplars, a small artificial island in a park in Ermenonville, France, where he had spent the last six weeks of his life. Rousseau’s tomb immediately became a place of pilgrimage for his admirers, but his remains were not to stay long on the peaceful little island.

Rousseau’s writings and philosophy had a profound impact on the French Revolution, especially among the most radical of the revolutionaries. Maximilien Robespierre, perhaps the most bloodthirsty of the Jacobins, appealed directly to Rousseau’s philosophy to justify the Terror, relying on Rousseau’s argument that the “general will” must prevail over individual private will, through the use of “universal compulsory force,” if necessary. Although Rousseau would most probably have disapproved, the Jacobins cited his work as thousands of heads deemed to contain insufficiently radical minds rolled down the guillotine chute.
But devotion to Rousseau did not die with the end of the Terror. In September 1794, less than two months after Robespierre himself was guillotined, the French Assembly proclaimed Rousseau to be a “Prophet of Jacobinism,” and voted to have his remains reinterred in the Panthéon.

Originally intended to be a new Church of Saint Genevieve (the patron saint of Paris), the building that would become the Panthéon was completed just as the French Revolution was getting underway. As part of the seizure of all church property, the National Assembly confiscated the building just before it was to be dedicated and declared that it would henceforth be a “temple of the nation,” where the “great men” of the nation were to be interred and honored. (About a year later revolutionaries burned the relics and remains of St. Genevieve and tossed the ashes unceremoniously into the Seine.)
In July 1791, Voltaire became the first of the great men to be reinterred in the Panthéon. Jean Paul Marat followed, after his assassination in 1793, only to have his remains ejected after he was later declared to be an “enemy of the revolution,” rather than a “great man.” In an effort to avoid such embarrassments in the future, in 1795 the Assembly passed a law providing that no one could be interred in the Panthéon until he had been dead for at least ten years.

But back to Rousseau. In October 1794 his remains were taken from the tomb on the Isle of Poplars and placed into a wagon for the thirty-mile journey to the Panthéon. A 12-horse team pulled the wagon, which also carried a statute of Rosseau, while the inhabitants of the villages where he wrote his most famous works walked along solemnly behind it, one of them carrying a copy his book “The Social Contract” on a velvet cushion. In the days leading up to the reinterment ceremony, public lectures praised him and throughout the country songs and plays were composed and performed in his honor.

Finally, on October 11, 1794, two hundred thirty-one years ago today, in a ceremony that one observer noted had a (perhaps ironic) “religious atmosphere,” the remains of Jean Jacques Rousseau were interred in the Panthéon. Rousseau’s remains were placed directly across from those of his former hero and philosophical rival Voltaire, who after reading Rousseau’s Discourse on Inequality wrote, “No one has ever employed so much intellect to persuade men to be beasts. In reading your work one is seized with a desire to walk on all fours.”

I find the references to religious sentiment in writings about Rousseau to be sort of odd and interesting. What do you notice?

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Weekend

The Week In Pictures: What Shutdown? Edition

The shutdown rages, ostensibly, but not many seem to notice. When will it end? I suppose when Chuck Schumer’s polling shows him pulling even with Ocasio-Cortez, now that he has stood up to the dreaded Trump.
In other more significant news, a cease fire finally came to Gaza. It is bittersweet: good to have the remaining hostages returned, bad that Hamas still exists. Whether any of the remaining points of President Trump’s peace plan are ever implemented, remains to be seen. But memesters gave Trump credit for saving the lives that could be saved.
Meanwhile, battles raged in Portland and Chicago. The Democratic Party and its judges came out foursquare for criminality, in what some see as a clarifying moment.
And, oh yes–meme creators are not yet done with the sombrero. Sombreros may attain a permanent place in the panoply of memedom. So here goes:

Okay then, sombreros:

Best yet… pic.twitter.com/Hrhr0MsZJh
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) October 5, 2025

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Music

Rousseau wrote music, too?

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

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Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Posted by: K.T. at 11:01 AM

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1 >>> Rousseau, that paragon of educational theory, was in fact the father of five children. And all five of those children had been abandoned at a foundling hospital at Rousseau’s urging.

Rousseau - first modern 'Urban' philosopher.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 11, 2025 11:11 AM (/lPRQ)

2 God separated out the nations at Babel. According to Scripture, each nation/family-group ended up with their own spiritual [dark] princes.

What I imagine is happening with the wide-open borders and allowing any and all tribes into the West that the Devil is trying to put the band back together again.

I think that is why competing demonic ideas are collaborating - LGBT and Islam are working together for the same cause.

I'm surprised the Rapture Enthusiasts haven't picked up on this and made videos, book series and conferences.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 11, 2025 11:11 AM (a4flb)

3 >>> the Isle of Poplars, a small artificial island in a park in Ermenonville, France, where he had spent the last six weeks of his life.

What a wretched end.
Sitting on an island you spit across until you died.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 11, 2025 11:15 AM (/lPRQ)

4 Willowed:

Johnson was pissed that Schumer was going to refuse any votes until after the next "No Kings" protest. I think that is the reason, they are trying to gin up some serious disorder and blame it on Trump.
And if not just disorder, then maybe some pretext for something else
Posted by: Kindltot at October 11, 2025 11:02 AM (rbvCR)

I'm guessing this "protest" will be a Black Block operation with the hope of getting a Kent State response that the Dims can ride into next year as well as November. And use it to get more of their demands.

Further, I expect the day time portion of this "protest" will be all peaceful for the MSM to broadcast and help project a false image/propaganda,

until the "mostly peaceful" part of the program starts after dark.

I just hope Trump's people have gamed this out properly.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 11, 2025 11:16 AM (iJfKG)

5 Sitting on an island you COULD spit across until you died.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 11, 2025 11:17 AM (/lPRQ)

6 What has already happened, decades long now and is continuing in Education is apocalyptic for America. It is purely sabotage, or nearly so. It will take a long time to repair even if we started today, and the damage already done is profound and will last well into the future.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 11, 2025 11:18 AM (cUWlp)

7 "The new generation of leftists aren’t liberal at all”

He is not wrong.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 11, 2025 11:19 AM (0N4FZ)

8 It's funny how "rationalists" reject Christ only to embrace pagan symbolism.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 11, 2025 11:20 AM (ZOv7s)

9 Good morning good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 11, 2025 11:20 AM (cYBz/)

10 1st delayed by content

much like losing the race to the next red light.

Posted by: DaveA at October 11, 2025 11:24 AM (PMJuY)

11 Oh baby

@LeadingReport
BREAKING: Former National Security Adviser John Bolton is expected to be charged with federal crimes soon, per two federal officials.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 11, 2025 11:24 AM (mlg/3)

12 Apparently, the U.S. has entered into an agreement with the Qatari government to build a training facility at Mountain Home AFB for the purpose of allowing Qatari F-15 pilots to train with U.S. pilots in joint operability exercises.

Great.

Let's just hope another Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani-like event doesn't take place at some point down the road.

Posted by: one hour sober at October 11, 2025 11:26 AM (Y1sOo)

13 I just hope Trump's people have gamed this out properly.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 11, 2025 11:16 AM (iJfKG)
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Since Antifa is now a foreign terrorist organization, the leadership could we be picked up in advance of the event.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 11, 2025 11:28 AM (ZOv7s)

14 I think society took a 50- 75 year vaca from responsibility.

The lurch to the left wasn't invisible. In fact, they didn't even try to hide it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 11:28 AM (Q4IgG)

15 island you COULD spit across

With a good pole and reel you could cast the compass.

I've caught walleye dinner and pike entertainment off an island that small in Voyageurs.

Posted by: DaveA at October 11, 2025 11:28 AM (PMJuY)

16 Thank you KT

I’ll admit I can’t make head nor tails if that Venn diagram. Maybe Kamala is smarter than I am… depressing thought

Sombrero memes are hilarious

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 11, 2025 11:31 AM (i5Vkf)

17 Good morning KT
Slacking here

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 11:33 AM (+qU29)

18 Not familiar with Fabianism. Does it have something to do with teen idols?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 11, 2025 11:34 AM (hoCmQ)

19 Good morning, it's good to be here. Thought I'd overslept and missed too much.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 11:36 AM (+f1g8)

20 12 Apparently, the U.S. has entered into an agreement with the Qatari government to build a training facility at Mountain Home AFB for the purpose of allowing Qatari F-15 pilots to train with U.S. pilots in joint operability exercises.

Great."

I liked the little video by Melanie Phillips where she suggested that on Oct. 8 the USA should have told Qatar that if all the hostages were not returned healthy the next day, they would be held responsible and we would remove our military base in Qatar.

Posted by: KT at October 11, 2025 11:37 AM (7vIsy)

21 4
'until the "mostly peaceful" part of the program starts after dark.'

Does he legally have to rely on local law enforcement to arrest these 'protestors'?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 11:38 AM (fd80v)

22 He spent 6 weeks, his last 6 weeks, on that little spit of land? Crazy French bastard!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2025 11:40 AM (wVcYX)

23 I've mentioned it here before, but I'll do so again. Read Paul Johnson's "Intellectuals: From Marx and Tolstoy to Sartre and Chomsky " if you want to get a good picture of Rousseau's utter depravity and lack of character. His entire life was one long abuse of others. You know, sort of like communism and all the other isms based on his work.

Sure, this is the guy we should follow.
*rolls eyes*

Posted by: Archimedes at October 11, 2025 11:40 AM (Riz8t)

24 Not familiar with Fabianism. Does it have something to do with teen idols?
Posted by: olddog in mo

Are you like 70 years old or something?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 11, 2025 11:42 AM (mlg/3)

25 Fabian was a terrible actor. Witness: Ride the Wild Surf.

But as a young teen, I watched that movie many times just to ogle Shelley Fabares in a bikini.

Posted by: one hour sober at October 11, 2025 11:42 AM (Y1sOo)

26 12 Apparently, the U.S. has entered into an agreement with the Qatari government to build a training facility at Mountain Home AFB for the purpose of allowing Qatari F-15 pilots to train with U.S. pilots in joint operability exercises.

Great."

I liked the little video by Melanie Phillips where she suggested that on Oct. 8 the USA should have told Qatar that if all the hostages were not returned healthy the next day, they would be held responsible and we would remove ~~our military base in~~ Qatar.
Posted by: KT at October 11, 2025 11:37 AM (7vIsy)

FIFM

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2025 11:42 AM (wVcYX)

27 The French revolutionaries were Leninists before Lenin.

Posted by: Joemarine at October 11, 2025 11:42 AM (y171U)

28 Critical Thinking today is not Critical Thinking of yesterday.

Yesterday:
1. Consider an issue or problem.
2. Resolve to understand via history, research, opinions, writings, and discernment.
3. Pose the Problem, Tradeoffs, and Solutions as a plan or strategy.
4. Gain support needed to implement above.
Today:
1. Criticize system failures.
2. Demonize a group that supports or work in the system.
3. Build Caste of the people in the system, using the system, or against the system.
4. Declare a Good vs. Evil Caste winner.

Posted by: r hennigantx at October 11, 2025 11:43 AM (gbOdA)

29 Video is too long. Needs to be shortened a bit.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 11, 2025 11:45 AM (g8Ew8)

30 rousseau was completely wrong in that children are born with a tabula rasa. had he kept his kids he might have felt differently. any parent can attest that children are born with unique personalities and temperament. Some are alpha and some are beta and some are lone wolves.

Posted by: avi at October 11, 2025 11:45 AM (R2iS+)

31 Are you like 70 years old or something?
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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*counts on fingers and toes*

No, not yet.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 11, 2025 11:45 AM (hoCmQ)

32 8 It's funny how "rationalists" reject Christ only to embrace pagan symbolism.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 11, 2025 11:20 AM (ZOv7s)

So true...

Posted by: Joemarine at October 11, 2025 11:46 AM (y171U)

33 Fabian was a terrible actor. Witness: Ride the Wild Surf.

But as a young teen, I watched that movie many times just to ogle Shelley Fabares in a bikini.
Posted by: one hour sober at October 11, 2025 11:42 AM (Y1sOo)

Hoedaddys watching the surf
Girls in bikinis
Mesmerizing bounce motions

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2025 11:46 AM (wVcYX)

34
I missed something basic.Why does qatar need F15s?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at October 11, 2025 11:48 AM (lCaJd)

35 Fabian was in North to Alaska, with John Wayne

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 11, 2025 11:49 AM (kUxzU)

36 Oh baby

@LeadingReport
BREAKING: Former National Security Adviser John Bolton is expected to be charged with federal crimes soon, per two federal officials.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 11, 2025 11:24 AM (mlg/3)

We get a Perp Walk? Please? Perp Drag by his feet? His mustache should protect him from steps.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 11, 2025 11:49 AM (S/Y4j)

37 Hoedaddys watching the surf
Girls in bikinis
Mesmerizing bounce motions
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2025 11:46 AM (wVcYX)

And the grandest of these movies: Surf Nazis Must Die.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 11, 2025 11:50 AM (g8Ew8)

38 BREAKING: Former National Security Adviser John Bolton is expected to be charged with federal crimes soon, per two federal officials.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 11, 2025 11:24 AM (mlg/3)

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.

Posted by: Zero Dark Thirty Raids, Perp Walks and Orange Jumpsuits at October 11, 2025 11:50 AM (R/m4+)

39 Didn't Rousseau push the idea of the noble savage?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 11, 2025 11:50 AM (kUxzU)

40 I think the French Revolution's problem is that it did not have a Lenin (or a Khomeini). They were all politicians fumbling around in the National Assembly. They had the will and the brutality, but not the competence.
Also, Lenin could lean on Stalin for the boring bureaucratic stuff.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 11, 2025 11:51 AM (JY4ap)

41 > Apparently, the U.S. has entered into an agreement with the Qatari government to build a training facility at Mountain Home AFB for the purpose of allowing Qatari F-15 pilots to train with U.S. pilots in joint operability exercises.
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FWIW... Qatar "gifted" Trump's administration that 747 to refurbish as AF-1.

Also, the US has trained many Middle Eastern militaries, and sold them fairly advanced weaponry. Saudi Arabia has early model AWACS, F-15's and whatnot. Having another ME country familiar with our gear and tactics, especially if Iran continues to be an issue is probably on some minds.

It also counters China's influence in the region.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 11:51 AM (Q4IgG)

42 Oh, and the guy who DID have the competence in Revolutionary France was technically a Corsican.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 11, 2025 11:52 AM (JY4ap)

43 Do you agree with the graphic representation above?
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It's a misrepresentation. In order to be categorized you have to hold convictions. I've come to the conclusion that a vast majority of "followers" in each category are merely doing what they are told to do, and disregarding any semblance of critical thought to form one's own path and belief structure.

Take Radical Islam as an example, assumed to portray Moral Absolutism. What a large portion of them are portraying is gullibility, hate and an easy target for manipulation. The same is true in all categories these days. Debate the facts with any of these Venn Diagram destinations, and you will find a vast majority of Lemmings unable to enunciate their own "beliefs". That's where the violence comes from...ego, outlet, frustration, and inadequacy with no path of release in refusing to face their own foibles.

Posted by: Orson at October 11, 2025 11:52 AM (dIske)

44 I missed something basic.Why does qatar need F15s?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at October 11, 2025 11:48 AM (lCaJd)

To make themselves more trouble than it's worth to invade. See: Switzerland.

"If you want peace, prepare for war."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 11, 2025 11:52 AM (Apzx6)

45 Rousseau’s hair style never caught on, did it?

Posted by: Eromero at October 11, 2025 11:52 AM (CuubL)

46 Hoedaddys watching the surf
Girls in bikinis
Mesmerizing bounce motions

****

That would be 'Girl Happy' starring Elvis Presley and co-staring Shelley Fabres along with her bikini.

Posted by: one hour sober at October 11, 2025 11:53 AM (Y1sOo)

47 I just hope Trump's people have gamed this out properly.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 11, 2025 11:16 AM (iJfKG)
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Since Antifa is now a foreign terrorist organization, the leadership could we be picked up in advance of the event.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 11, 2025 11:28 AM (ZOv7s)

That's a good point. They should probably do just that.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 11, 2025 11:53 AM (iJfKG)

48 That Venn diagram is too complex over the simple. Our problem is more binary; good vs evil. That diagram subdivides the various kinds of evil. It accomplishes nothing. There is a garbage can full of garbage, it's not necessary to go through the can and categorize the items. It's all trash.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 11:54 AM (+f1g8)

49 Victor Davis Hanson sometimes makes reference to the Jacobins in today's culture and not in a good way. I really enjoy watching his videos.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 11, 2025 11:56 AM (NTdv6)

50 Fantastic post, K.T.! Rousseau always struck me as an opportunist, in all modes of life and thought, and was the godfather of many of the idiotic ideas that underpin historical and contemporary leftist ideology.

Loved the mariachi meme, too!

Posted by: Paco at October 11, 2025 11:56 AM (mADJX)

51 Mass shooting overnight in Leland, Miss. following homecoming football game. Football is the ceremonial dance before tribal warfare.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at October 11, 2025 11:56 AM (33efi)

52 That Venn diagram is too complex over the simple. Our problem is more binary; good vs evil. That diagram subdivides the various kinds of evil. It accomplishes nothing. There is a garbage can full of garbage, it's not necessary to go through the can and categorize the items. It's all trash.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 11:54 AM (+f1g

Agree.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 11, 2025 11:56 AM (g8Ew8)

53 When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
Posted by: Zero Dark Thirty Raids, Perp Walks and Orange Jumpsuits at October 11, 2025 11:50 AM (R/m4+)

Eh? No, if you have the drop on him, make a lot of noise. It makes the conspirators start to act up in ways that are easy to spot.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 11, 2025 12:01 PM (rbvCR)

54 41 Fort Smith's ANG base is now an AF base dedicated to F35 training. The Poles have been here for some months, with Finns coming the first of the year. The Singapore AF will have a permanent presence. The local ANG outfit, the 188th is still active in drone controlling, which is cool. An Arky sitting in a Barcalounger can zap some raghead on the other side of the globe and be home in time for dinner.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 11, 2025 12:01 PM (gm9Sb)

55 6 What has already happened, decades long now and is continuing in Education is apocalyptic for America. It is purely sabotage, or nearly so. It will take a long time to repair even if we started today, and the damage already done is profound and will last well into the future.
Posted by: Common Tater
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Damage done. Repairing the damaged will be difficult.
For today's children. Replacing the damaged teachers with undamaged is primary and goes doubly for administration.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 12:02 PM (+f1g8)

56 There is a garbage can full of garbage, it's not necessary to go through the can and categorize the items. It's all trash.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

Like having a bunch of recycle bins when it all goes to the same dump

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 11, 2025 12:02 PM (/lPRQ)

57 39
'Didn't Rousseau push the idea of the noble savage?'

Did we ever find one of those? All I've ever seen are the ignoble ones.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 12:04 PM (fd80v)

58 57 39 Rousseau never made it to Gallup, NM.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 11, 2025 12:05 PM (gm9Sb)

59 Rousseau’s partner, Marie-Thérèse Levasseur, was from a formerly prominent family that had fallen on hard times, and when she gave birth Rousseau (and Levasseur’s own mother) urged her to send their son to an orphanage.

Now see in the modern world we'd pay Marie to take care of the children, but a modern Rosseau would then go off and spread it around a bunch of women of lose virtue...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2025 12:05 PM (sKqQm)

60 Those who can't do teach
Guess that works in child raising as well

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 12:06 PM (+qU29)

61 54 41 Fort Smith's ANG base is now an AF base dedicated to F35 training. The Poles have been here for some months, with Finns coming the first of the year. The Singapore AF will have a permanent presence. The local ANG outfit, the 188th is still active in drone controlling, which is cool. An Arky sitting in a Barcalounger can zap some raghead on the other side of the globe and be home in time for dinner.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin,
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The Qataris are building a facility at Mountain Home AFB in Idaho.
And it appears we will be building a deepwater port in Pakistan. (Baluchistan)

I am very skeptical of these new alliances.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 12:07 PM (+f1g8)

62 45
'Rousseau’s hair style never caught on, did it?'

$2 bill Thomas Jefferson has that hair do.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 12:07 PM (fd80v)

63 John Carter (of Postcards from Barsoom) talks about the Poastocracy, which is a way of decentralizing opinion making and gathering digitally.
When ideas and conflicts, and suggestions arise in the net, they are faster, more agile and more authentic than a poll that takes a month to frame, a month to gather, and is probably slanted to whoever paid for it anyways.

In a way it is an ongoing public meeting, as long as you can adjust for the trolls, self-appointed thought leaders, paid influencers, and bots.
It looks like it is the only way to scale up the "small group open democracy" that was possible in the West that has given us such freedom and success - that is also a type of open source governance that is anathema to the Europeans

Posted by: Kindltot at October 11, 2025 12:07 PM (rbvCR)

64 The French Revolution really was a debacle. I’ve always been puzzled how Thomas Jefferson could be such a fan..

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 11, 2025 12:08 PM (lepZb)

65 But as a young teen, I watched that movie many times just to ogle Shelley Fabares in a bikini.
Posted by: one hour sober at October 11, 2025 11:42 AM (Y1sOo)

#metoo

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 11, 2025 12:08 PM (5xuJ/)

66 Rousseau’s hair style never caught on, did it?
Posted by: Eromero at October 11, 2025 11:52 AM (CuubL)

I prefer Leia Organa's Bismark-hairdo to Rousseau's "pan of strudels" look

Posted by: Kindltot at October 11, 2025 12:09 PM (rbvCR)

67 Didn't Rousseau push the idea of the noble savage?
Posted by: Notsothoreau

I think it was Alexander Pope, but Rousseau leveraged it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 11, 2025 12:09 PM (mlg/3)

68 Now see in the modern world we'd pay Marie to take care of the children, but a modern Rosseau would then go off and spread it around a bunch of women of lose virtue...
Posted by: 18-1

Comment No. 1
Rousseau - first modern 'Urban' philosopher.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 11, 2025 12:10 PM (/lPRQ)

69 >>>Great."

I liked the little video by Melanie Phillips where she suggested that on Oct. 8 the USA should have told Qatar that if all the hostages were not returned healthy the next day, they would be held responsible and we would remove our military base in Qatar.
Posted by: KT
---

Looks like I repeated your news. Read that last night, it was an hyperbolic ZH lede and slept uneasy with it. I'm very displeased with these 'new deals'. Playing footsie with a people sworn to kill us is not a wise decision. It is not a dominant move. Very uncharacteristic.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 12:12 PM (+f1g8)

70 The French Revolution really was a debacle. I’ve always been puzzled how Thomas Jefferson could be such a fan..
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 11, 2025 12:08 PM (lepZb)

He liked the French and loved the culture, especially the sophistication as a counterpoint to the English
He honored their commitment and financial support during the Revolutions
He admired the original drive for suffrage and the stated goals of increasing liberty in a stultifying bureaucracy
He loved the Rights of Man, and the promise of a new society - especially since Thomas Paine was the author, and who even cribbed a bit from Jefferson.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 11, 2025 12:13 PM (rbvCR)

71 A terrible man - Rousseau;

https://tinyurl.com/yck4brnk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2025 12:13 PM (m6Eem)

72 65
'But as a young teen, I watched that movie many times just to ogle Shelley Fabares in a bikini.

#metoo'

Johnny Angel.
Johnny Angel.
Johnny Angel.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 12:14 PM (fd80v)

73 Actually in all the Napoleonic era podcasts I have a few hundred hours listening to, many foreigners talked about were admires of the French Revolution.

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 12:15 PM (+qU29)

74 I liked the little video by Melanie Phillips where she suggested that on Oct. 8 the USA should have told Qatar that if all the hostages were not returned healthy the next day, they would be held responsible and we would remove our military base in Qatar.

Posted by: KT at October 11, 2025 11:37 AM

That might have happened if Trump was president. Then again, I doubt hamas would have attacked Israel if he had been president.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 11, 2025 12:17 PM (0N4FZ)

75 Rousseau has been compared to a "dancing bear" who amused the useless aristocrats and intellectuals of the Old Regime. Claiming that equality was more important than tradition, and that by getting rid of the stultifying effect of the monarchy, church and outdated mechanisms of the state (and leaving those posts open for them) would result in a better society, that promised freedom, liberty, equality and continuing employment for the parts of the upper class who had little to look forward to otherwise.
Rousseau was the ultimate outsider, he was protestant, middle-class, and foreign. Probably was considered incredibly disposable if he stepped wrong, too.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 11, 2025 12:20 PM (rbvCR)

76 74
'Then again, I doubt hamas would have attacked Israel if he had been president.'

They're evil shits. They would have done it anyway.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 12:21 PM (fd80v)

77 BREAKING: Former National Security Adviser John Bolton is expected to be charged with federal crimes soon, per two federal officials.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 11, 2025 11:24 AM (mlg/3)

We get a Perp Walk? Please? Perp Drag by his feet? His mustache should protect him from steps.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

I want frog suits. Just because.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at October 11, 2025 12:21 PM (LjSYW)

78 >>>In a way it is an ongoing public meeting, as long as you can adjust for the trolls, self-appointed thought leaders, paid influencers, and bots.
...- that is also a type of open source governance that is anathema to the Europeans
Posted by: Kindltot
----

Agreed. But adjusting for the trolls, self-appointed thought leaders, paid influencers, and bots is going to become more difficult. A way to filter inaccurate information must be developed.
Anecdotally, last night a 'new-nick' said that Xi had suffered a stroke. Big news. I searched 30 minutes on X; there were many statements but not one from any source remotely credible.
Could it have been new news possibly. If it was valid I think it would be a topic today.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 12:22 PM (+f1g8)

79 I read that Lays did some market research and found that 42% of consumers didn’t know their chips are made with potatoes.

What the fuck do these people think POTATO chips are made out of?

It’s stuff like this that makes me think oh OK I get why Democrats win elections some time. Lol. We’re kind of a stupid people aren’t we?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 11, 2025 12:23 PM (5Yz+T)

80 I think the Qatari's training their pilots here is part of the Trump's administration of "carrot and/or stick" method of diplomacy with recalcitrant regimes. Sitting across the Gulf from Iran makes them a tripwire of sorts. We tried this with the Saudis but they seem... lazy and disinterested... even when the Houthi's were sending suicide drones into their petrochemical infrastructure years ago they did little about it.

And we didn't either. Until the Houthi's started messing with commercial shipping in the Red Sea. But that's another story.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 12:26 PM (Q4IgG)

81 I read that Lays did some market research and found that 42% of consumers didn’t know their chips are made with potatoes.

What the fuck do these people think POTATO chips are made out of?

It’s stuff like this that makes me think oh OK I get why Democrats win elections some time. Lol. We’re kind of a stupid people aren’t we?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 11, 2025 12:23 PM (5Yz+T)

This checks out. Have you spent much time observing the shoppers in your grocery store?

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2025 12:27 PM (wVcYX)

82 Was Shelley Fabares a Fabianist or Rousseauist?

Posted by: Joemarine at October 11, 2025 12:28 PM (y171U)

83 Johnny Angel.
Johnny Angel.
Johnny Angel.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 12:14 PM (fd80v)

I have the 45 in my collection from back then.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 11, 2025 12:28 PM (5xuJ/)

84 81
'This checks out. Have you spent much time observing the shoppers in your grocery store?'

Count the ones wearing pajamas. It's probably as much as 42%.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 12:29 PM (fd80v)

85 To make themselves more trouble than it's worth to invade. See: Switzerland.

"If you want peace, prepare for war."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

=============

Iran is the potential troublemaker?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at October 11, 2025 12:31 PM (lCaJd)

86 >>>We get a Perp Walk? Please? Perp Drag by his feet? His mustache should protect him from steps.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

I want frog suits. Just because.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory,
----------------

You get nothing. That's not who we are.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 12:32 PM (+f1g8)

87 83
'
I have the 45 in my collection from back then.'

It's probably a collector's item now.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 12:33 PM (fd80v)

88 3. Pose the Problem, Tradeoffs, and Solutions as a plan or strategy.

Absent from all of this is "Wisdom". You still need a transcendent authority or else you get Nietzsche's observation the most violent wins the argument.

That is why there is moral consideration and there must be a Good v Evil when its obvious that Evil has entered into the chat.

"Practical" systems always devolve into Communism and Tyranny because those who want to be the strongman are more violent than those who want to be left alone.

It takes moral clarity and point to objective morality as a basis for many conflicts.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 11, 2025 12:33 PM (a4flb)

89 Was Rousseau a noble surfer? Check his curls. The third roller (from the bottom) is the biggest.

Catch A Wave!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2025 12:35 PM (wVcYX)

90 86
'We get a Perp Walk? Please? Perp Drag by his feet? His mustache should protect him from steps.

I want frog suits. Just because.

You get nothing. That's not who we are.'

It's who I am.
I want them to plow through Merrick Garland's house in a tank.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 12:36 PM (fd80v)

91 79 I read that Lays did some market research and found that 42% of consumers didn’t know their chips are made with potatoes.

What the fuck do these people think POTATO chips are made out of?

It’s stuff like this that makes me think oh OK I get why Democrats win elections some time. Lol. We’re kind of a stupid people aren’t we?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 11, 2025 12:23 PM (5Yz+T)

Maybe they thought it was made out of corn or wheat? They are called potato chips for a reason.

Posted by: Joemarine at October 11, 2025 12:36 PM (y171U)

92 Can't say noticed much of anyone shopping at the grocery store 7am on a Sunday morning wearing the pj's.

Wouldn't bet that at a department store

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 12:36 PM (+qU29)

93 Have you spent much time observing the shoppers in your grocery store?

Are you talking about the 400#ers in the motor scooter with a keg sized container of puffed cheese-balls and a diet Mountain Dew stashed among mylar bag after mylar bag of comestibles from the snack aisle?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 11, 2025 12:37 PM (a4flb)

94 > 'This checks out. Have you spent much time observing the shoppers in your grocery store?'
---------
The woman rummaging through the rack of little pies at Walmart, checking every. single. one. for the date. Went on for about 15 minutes. She'd put one in her cart, rummage around some more, take it out and put another in.

She fingered every box. Weirdo.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 12:38 PM (Q4IgG)

95 WTF do people do all day if 1 they don't know what they are eating and 2 voting for?

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 12:40 PM (+qU29)

96 We get a Perp Walk? Please? Perp Drag by his feet? His mustache should protect him from steps.

And the handcuffs and leg irons attached to battery cables?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 11, 2025 12:40 PM (a4flb)

97 I have the 45 in my collection from back then.'

It's probably a collector's item now.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 12:33 PM (fd80v)

Nah. Back then, 45's were pressed by the tens of thousands. We weren't an album generation, by and large. We bought the single for the song, not for the artist. 45s were around 69 cents, albums were around 4.00, and up. I have hundreds of 45's, a combination from me and my wife's collection. I digitized a little over 300 so far and have them on a thumb drive copy that is pugged into my car stereo, in my 57 Chevy and 06 Mustang GT.

Cool memories from the days of cruising Main St USA with your favorite girl. Innocent times, indeed.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 11, 2025 12:41 PM (5xuJ/)

98 As I've gotten older I've come to despise Rousseau as a person and for his 'legacy'. It comes down to standards and morality may be fine for the masses but don't apply to him and other 'leaders'. He and his ilk tried to make Christianity into a human based culture, not God based. That always (parts of the Enlightenment, Communism, Progressives, etc.) devolves into a soulless, arbitrary power structures that reduces humanity to a commodity at best and an obstacle at worst. The need for the French Revolution was real. The actual way it turned out showed the same arrogance that called for it.

In a way this reminds me of Plato in the Republic wishing to throw out poets as they introduced ideas to people that distracted from the state's needs or dictates. Soulless and unimaginative and denigrating the individual.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 12:41 PM (yTvNw)

99 First,
a “temple of the nation,”
Yes, exactly. They made the State into God. (Just like most pagans before them, where the king was literally or figuratively a god.)

Second, I've never much liked Rousseau OR Voltaire because they all came out of the group of enlightenment thinkers who thought their "reason" made them smarter than God. It's the beginning of the thing that becomes Progressivism. Marx took a bunch of his cues from it.

Posted by: GWB at October 11, 2025 12:41 PM (nSIj0)

100 Maybe they thought it was made out of corn or wheat? They are called potato chips for a reason.

Just like the Almond beverage is labeled "milk" ?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 11, 2025 12:43 PM (a4flb)

101 The woman rummaging through the rack of little pies at Walmart, checking every. single. one. for the date. Went on for about 15 minutes. She'd put one in her cart, rummage around some more, take it out and put another in.
She fingered every box. Weirdo.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 12:38 PM (Q4IgG)

I caught a doctor friend of mine going thru all the bacon packages at the food store looking thru the little window for God knows what. I told him they are all the same Doc, just like assholes. Some bigger and browner, but all the same. He laughed and said yup, I was right.

Posted by: Assholes Wrapped In Plastic at October 11, 2025 12:44 PM (R/m4+)

102 Shouldn't Elizabeth Warren in that video be in a buckskin dress? Disappoint.

Posted by: GWB at October 11, 2025 12:45 PM (nSIj0)

103 Legal Insurrection- Media reviving the Jedi mind trick
There is no Antifa, there is no Antifa, there is no Antifa
Now repeat after me
There is no Antifa

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 12:45 PM (+qU29)

104 Maybe I should save this for the book thread, but speaking of Voltaire, read “Candide” - a real knee-slapper as compared to later philosophical pursuits.

Posted by: Insensitive Clod at October 11, 2025 12:49 PM (vjUC3)

105 Second, I've never much liked Rousseau OR Voltaire because they all came out of the group of enlightenment thinkers who thought their "reason" made them smarter than God.

Apparently it never entered into their mind the origin of Reason and the ability to think. What made Rousseau or Voltaire believe that they weren't mad, delusional or insane?

How could anyone posit that they were competitive with a transcendent, omniscient, infallible being? How did they convince themselves that their own reasoning was superior to all else and that they were better than the guy sitting naked in a puddle arguing with a chicken?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 11, 2025 12:50 PM (a4flb)

106 KT,
Damn interesting topic. Thanks.

Careful! A topic like this leads to so many rabbit holes to follow.

Posted by: JTB at October 11, 2025 12:51 PM (yTvNw)

107 There is no Antifa, there is no Antifa, there is no Antifa

Throw the switch and enough angry and pissed off Men of Action will bring that prophecy to fruition.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 11, 2025 12:52 PM (a4flb)

108 100 Maybe they thought it was made out of corn or wheat? They are called potato chips for a reason.

Just like the Almond beverage is labeled "milk" ?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
---------------

Potato is just word to identify this bag from the bag labeled Doritos.
Just a word, no more no less.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 12:52 PM (+f1g8)

109 I bought a book long ago that was some letters between Voltaire and Frederick the Great. Not a whole lot in it, did read it

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 12:52 PM (+qU29)

110 Shouldn't Elizabeth Warren in that video be in a buckskin dress? Disappoint.
Posted by: GWB at October 11, 2025 12:45 PM (nSIj0)

Naaa.
She is willing to adopt any culture.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 11, 2025 12:54 PM (2WIwB)

111 James Wood is killing it!!!
That was awesome!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 11, 2025 12:54 PM (2WIwB)

112 Very interesting KT. Thanks. No snark.

Posted by: dreamingrobot at October 11, 2025 12:56 PM (EyfuW)

113 I am sure if one got into the Dark Web would find all kinds of pages between Antifa Anarchists

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 12:57 PM (+qU29)

114 Meat puppets.

Just meat.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 12:58 PM (+f1g8)

115 Meat puppets:

https://tinyurl.com/mryxhwkw

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 01:01 PM (+f1g8)

116 I don't trust historians to provide an accurate profile of Rousseau or anyone involved in the French Revolution. Actually I can't trust any historian to give an accurate profile of any controversial figure.

Too much bias in that field in the last 100 years.

Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 11, 2025 01:02 PM (EYmYM)

117 Young leftists are like old leftists. I know many (I'm 52) who are as hypocritical and cruel --all in the name of pragmatism and compassion-- as most of the younger cohort. I suppose, however, more kids today are ready for street action as opposed to online and student union squabbles. I can't think of any of my liberal peers who would want to attack ICE facilities.

Posted by: Lex at October 11, 2025 01:03 PM (y4H1r)

118 I definitely look at dates of food products I buy.

Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 11, 2025 01:05 PM (EYmYM)

119 "I read that Lays did some market research and found that 42% of consumers didn’t know their chips are made with potatoes."

Well, Girl Scout Cookies are not made out of Girl Scouts.

Posted by: fd at October 11, 2025 01:06 PM (vFG9F)

120 What's this about Bugs Bunny performing at the Super Bowl?

Posted by: Emily Litella... at October 11, 2025 01:08 PM (oftw2)

121
Well, Girl Scout Cookies are not made out of Girl Scouts.
Posted by: fd

I think Fred Sanford made Gorilla Cookies using Esther's face as the mold.

Posted by: Keebler Elf at October 11, 2025 01:11 PM (oftw2)

122 But as a young teen, I watched that movie many times just to ogle Shelley Fabares in a bikini.
Posted by: one hour sober at October 11, 2025 11:42 AM (Y1sOo)

Eh, you could do a lot worse with your time than that.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 11, 2025 01:11 PM (uQesX)

123 8 It's funny how "rationalists" reject Christ only to embrace pagan symbolism.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 11, 2025 11:20 AM (ZOv7s)

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: Pope Leo Fagteenth, blessing an ice block at October 11, 2025 01:12 PM (TbWk/)

124 Philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau wrote a seminal text on education and raising children. He also abandoned five of his own children soon after their births.

This tracks.
If you read Emile, it will become painfully obvious that Rousseau never had any serious relationships with actual children. It's like reading about what education should be like by someone who has been familiarized with children as an abstract concept but has never met one.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 11, 2025 01:15 PM (V9cMX)

125 Seems to.me the Marxists in Congress want to keep Illegals but it's the Antifa Anarchists out doing the dirty work on the streets to stop ICE

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 01:16 PM (+qU29)

126 Any reasonable person would have no expectation that there are actually Eskimos in Eskimo pies.

Posted by: Guy who checks the ingredients just to be sure at October 11, 2025 01:17 PM (vFG9F)

127 I am not a RC, but I don't think Pope Leo has rejected Christ. I think he just accepts the idea of man made global warming.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2025 01:17 PM (lQ+/f)

128 One could argue that Pringles are made of sawdust.

Posted by: Guy who checks the ingredients just to be sure at October 11, 2025 01:18 PM (vFG9F)

129 124 Philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau wrote a seminal text on education and raising children. He also abandoned five of his own children soon after their births.

This tracks.
If you read Emile, it will become painfully obvious that Rousseau never had any serious relationships with actual children. It's like reading about what education should be like by someone who has been familiarized with children as an abstract concept but has never met one.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 11, 2025 01:15 PM (V9cMX)

Beat them until they learn their maths.

Posted by: Wackford Squeers, educational pioneer at October 11, 2025 01:18 PM (TbWk/)

130 First Ricky Nelson, then Shelley Fabares having music success made TV producers try to repeat the formula. Paul Peterson, co-star on Donna Reed, was forced to record a couple songs, although he admitted he was a crappy singer. Maybe one of the brats on Make Room For Daddy, too. The girls from Petticoat Junction recorded a number of singles.

Posted by: Beat It To Death at October 11, 2025 01:19 PM (oftw2)

131 The whole "Antifa doesn't exist" thing is just silly. The left honestly believes in the whole Jedi hand wave thing and saying something makes it so. I hope there's a reckoning soon... it will mentally break them into little pieces.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 11, 2025 01:20 PM (Q4IgG)

132 Thank you for this, KT

Rousseau ... Marx ... Sanger ... Keynes ... all losers

Posted by: callsign claymore at October 11, 2025 01:22 PM (cft2r)

133
Ghana won't accept Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, so he's on our hands for a while.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 11, 2025 01:22 PM (oKXMA)

134 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 11, 2025 01:22 PM (oKXMA

I am so tired of KA-G. I wish somebody else would take him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2025 01:25 PM (looXz)

135 Ghana won't accept Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, so he's on our hands for a while.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 11, 2025 01:22 PM (oKXMA)

Better find another place then. Wait too long and a judge will release him.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 11, 2025 01:25 PM (uQesX)

136 Rousseau's music is as mediocre as his philosophy.

Posted by: creeper at October 11, 2025 01:26 PM (zFwIe)

137 Garcia is like Hyman Roth. No other country would take him.

Posted by: Lex at October 11, 2025 01:27 PM (y4H1r)

138 126 Any reasonable person would have no expectation that there are actually Eskimos in Eskimo pies.
Posted by: Guy who checks the ingredients just to be sure

Maybe not, but there's a little of Mrs. Paul's DNA in every one of her fish sticks.

Posted by: It's Been Proved! at October 11, 2025 01:27 PM (oftw2)

139 Better find another place then. Wait too long and a judge will release him.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Gitmo.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 11, 2025 01:28 PM (IDcT3)

140 I want frog suits. Just because.

After the hilarious video of an LEO shooting pepper spray directly into the air intake of an Antifa in an inflatable frog suit, there are now multiple Antifatards wearing them. That's at least as stupid as building a second identical Death Star after A New Hope. Maybe worse.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 11, 2025 01:28 PM (QZThv)

141 Any reasonable person would have no expectation that there are actually Eskimos in Eskimo pies.

I thought they were discontinued after leftist Karens declared "Eskimo" is a racial slur in 2020.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 11, 2025 01:29 PM (QZThv)

142 Have Newsmax on as no horror movies on I want to see. Live in Tel Aviv at a rally, not sure what's happening

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 01:29 PM (+qU29)

143 Ghana won't accept Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, so he's on our hands for a while.

Earlier this week the word was that they'd run out of Hawaiian judges and he really was going to CECOT this time. What happened?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 11, 2025 01:30 PM (QZThv)

144
Earlier this week the word was that they'd run out of Hawaiian judges and he really was going to CECOT this time. What happened?
Posted by: Ian S.

===============

I thought CECOT was out because he can claim that rival gangs will kill him, but it seems to me it should be back in. If Bukele makes some statement of assurance that CECOT is a safe place for all prisoners, that should be enough as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 11, 2025 01:33 PM (oKXMA)

145 Kilmar Abrego-Garcia needs to be taken to the Cordova Observation Tower in Iowa.

And pushed down the stairs. "He slipped. And slipped again. And Again!"

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 11, 2025 01:34 PM (u82oZ)

146 GARDEN THREAD IS BLOOMING

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 01:34 PM (+qU29)

147
Better find another place then. Wait too long and a judge will release him.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

=================

That's exactly what Judge Xinis is threatening to do.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 11, 2025 01:34 PM (oKXMA)

148 After the hilarious video of an LEO shooting pepper spray directly into the air intake of an Antifa in an inflatable frog suit, there are now multiple Antifatards wearing them.

Instead of pepper spray, how about a Bic lighter and a can of spray carb cleaner?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 11, 2025 01:35 PM (a4flb)

149

I wanna sex up yo mouf.

And kill yo entire family.

But fist, yo mouf.

Posted by: Ghetto Rousseau at October 11, 2025 01:35 PM (oyri5)

150 I thought CECOT was out because he can claim that rival gangs will kill him, but it seems to me it should be back in. If Bukele makes some statement of assurance that CECOT is a safe place for all prisoners, that should be enough as far as I'm concerned.

From what I had read, they decided Africa was inhumane (tell that to the people who think Wakanda is real) but since the rival gang he was afraid of was disbanded El Salvador was back on the menu.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 11, 2025 01:35 PM (QZThv)

151 Ghana won't accept Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, so he's on our hands for a while.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 11, 2025 01:22 PM (oKXMA)

Maybe there is a school district in Leftyville they can send him to so he can corrupt the youthful while making children with lonely Karens like I did.

Posted by: Dr. Ian Roberts, Out To Stud at October 11, 2025 01:36 PM (R/m4+)

152 I thought CECOT was out because he can claim that rival gangs will kill him, but it seems to me it should be back in. If Bukele makes some statement of assurance that CECOT is a safe place for all prisoners, that should be enough as far as I'm concerned.

Who will star as Kilmar Abrego-Garcia in the Netflix movie?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 11, 2025 01:36 PM (a4flb)

153 I got the look from my little dog a few minutes ago, she wanted to go outside. So I took her out and noticed how absolutely quite it was. No traffic of any kind, no one working in their yard, no gun shots. Just quite. It's a nice fall day, perfect to be outside. It just felt so weird. Then I remembered, Alabama was playing football on TV. They had an early game today. As a matter of fact I had the game on too. It slipped my mind what was going on. Of course no one was out, they had something better to do.

Posted by: Case at October 11, 2025 01:36 PM (9HFDU)

154 Bet thete is a deserted island Garcia could be dropped off that no one will know he is even there

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 01:41 PM (+qU29)

155 154
'Bet there is a deserted island Garcia could be dropped off that no one will know he is even there'

The Bikini atoll has probably cooled off enough by now.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 11, 2025 01:42 PM (fd80v)

156 they were better than the guy sitting naked in a puddle arguing with a chicken?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 11, 2025 12:50 PM (a4flb)

Yep.
Also, where the heck did that image come from? LOL

Posted by: GWB at October 11, 2025 01:44 PM (nSIj0)

157 Nobody nooded? For shame.

Posted by: GWB at October 11, 2025 01:44 PM (nSIj0)

158 Who will star as Kilmar Abrego-Garcia in the Netflix movie?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

That John Leguizamo asshole.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at October 11, 2025 01:45 PM (LjSYW)

159 GARDEN THREAD IS BLOOMING
Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 01:34 PM

Posted by: Skip at October 11, 2025 02:00 PM (+qU29)

160 ANTIFA's Mask Slips: Trump's Roundtable Sends Shadow NGO Network Behind "Riot Inc." Into Panic
...a transnational network of NGOs, foreign financiers, and ideological operatives quietly fueling what Seamus Bruner of the Government Accountability Institute called "Riot Inc.

...He traced the money, the messaging, and the movements, exposing how left-wing extremism has evolved from decentralized networks of anarchist collectives into a well-funded infrastructure with global ambitions. Among the various nodes and financiers

https://tinyurl.com/ywz23345

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 02:05 PM (+f1g8)

161 Looks like the hamassholes are not taking that whole disarm and no part in governing thing seriously . They just appointed 5 governors to areas throughout gaza.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 11, 2025 02:06 PM (QGLzn)

162 I have about as much use for Rousseau as he did for his children.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at October 11, 2025 02:06 PM (Om+DK)

163 Trump at his Antifa round table meeting:

https://tinyurl.com/3wmx8xp2

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 02:07 PM (+f1g8)

164 Making a deal with psychopathic murderers is in itself psychotic.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 11, 2025 02:10 PM (+f1g8)

165 On a side note, who was the big-brained philosopher who dumbed down 'enlightenment' to 'woke'?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at October 11, 2025 02:15 PM (Om+DK)

166 Andrew Nyberg: Charlie Kirk was never a good debater, he just looked smart to people who didn’t know any better. His whole shtick was bad faith arguing, relying on Gish Galloping and non-sequiturs to overwhelm teenagers who had no idea what those tactics were.
...its not just Kirk. Nearly every right wing pundit relies on the same approach, most famously Ben Shapiro. He speaks at lightning speed not because he’s brilliant, but because it lets him cram as much nonsense as possible into a short window. That way, even if someone manages to debunk one of his claims, he can pivot instantly to another and pretend the previous point was never disproven. Then he declares victory.
They also lean heavily on non-sequiturs and begging the question. They’ll spin a long chain of “if this, then that” reasoning and suddenly drop a “so…here is the logical conclusion” as if they’ve proven something. The goal is to make the audience think a conclusion has been logically established, when it hasn’t. It’s a way to either exhaust their opponent into silence or bait them into getting emotional, at which point the pundit claims they’ve “won”...

Charlie Kirk was only an intellectual person to dumb people.

Posted by: LizLem at October 11, 2025 02:28 PM (gWBY1)

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