Saturday Evening Movie Thread [moviegique]: The Return of the Living Dead

It was another good fortnight-and-a-half at 'casa 'gique, starting with the indie/arty/actorly Everything's Going To Be Great, where a theater kid born into a theater family struggles with convincing people he's heterosexual and ultimately learns he's not the center of the universe, and ending with the taut Persian thriller Tatami, about a Persian judoku who is doing well in a competition, so the Iranian government calls up and tells her to fake an injury—because she might have to go up against an Israeli and they have to boycott Zionists and since they can't, they have to pretend they're not, and, my God, what a bunch of whiny-ass bitches running that country.

We bookended this with two '90s(ish) movies, Shall we Dance? and In The Mood For Love from Japan and China respectively.

And what was between the bookends? The glorious year of 1984(ish). We started with Tsui Hark's Shanghai Blues, went to a double-feature of Return of the Living Dead and Repo Man, then followed up with the 40(ish) anniversary of This Is Spinal Tap.

With the exception of Tap, none of these '80s films are (generally) regarded as classics—more cult classics, than anything. Shanghai Blues strikes me as under-rated: It's a romcom, almost a screwball comedy with a kind of kung-fu sensibility to the physical humor (think a less frenetic, less violent Jackie Chan). It, like the other three movies, has a surprisingly light, almost casual regard for things which would be ponderously heavy today. These films touch lightly on promiscuity, homelessness, pedophilia, assault, sexual assault, dismemberment, PTSD, death—in ways you really can't anymore.

I gots things to say about all of 'em, but tonight, let's just talk about the movie Simon Pegg called "a piss take" on the zombie genre.

Standard first level opponents of an '80s side-scroller fighting game.

Back From The Dead—And Ready To Party

George Romero and John Russo had different ideas about how to proceed with their unexpectedly successful flick, Night of the Living Dead. They decided to go their separate ways, distinguishing their products with "...of the Dead" (Romero) and "...of the Living Dead" (Russo). Richard P. Rubinstein (Romero's producer on Dawn of the Dead) actually tried to get the "Living Dead" removed anyway but since Russo had co-written NotLD, the WGA sided with him.

Russo did the novelization of the '68 movie and wrote a follow-up novel called Return of the Living Dead which served as the basis for the first screenplay. He hired Dan O'Bannon (scriptwriter of Alien, Blue Thunder, Total Recall and many more) to write and direct, and O'Bannon rejected the original script for seeming too much like a continuation of Romero's work (the third installation of which would beat this to theaters by about a month in the summer of '85).

So, O'Bannon created a world where Night of the Living Dead had been a documentary—an exposé of an army snafu that had resulted in zombies, and Romero had been forced to make changes to various elements to cover up the truth.

This serves as a springboard for a lot of the movie's comedy.

And this is a funny movie.

Jewel Shepard (Casey) turned down the role of Trash, alleging she'd had enough of being naked. She also alleges that the movie would've gotten an X if she'd done the movie since Linnea Quigley had "nothing much sexual about her". (Quigley got her start in 1978's softcore "Fairy Tales", so Shepherd's opinion was not widely shared.)

Freddie goes to his new job at the UNEEDA Medical Supply company and his supervisor Frank is there to show him the ropes—possibly the dumbest categorization system ever—and Frank gets to talking about how NotLD was a real thing and he knows this because the barrels containing trioxin—the substance that animates the dead—is down in the basement.

The barrel contains the gas and a corpse (later nicknamed "Tarman") and wouldn't you know it, Frank smacks the barrel confidently only to release the gas and animate all the little bits and bobs in the warehouse. Including the pinned butterflies and bisected dogs.

They call their boss Burt for help, and a number of gags ensue where they try to follow the NotLD formula, only to discover it doesn't work. The zombies aren't slow, they aren't dumb, they're just dead—and hungry.

Burt gets the idea of going next door to Resurrection Mortuary and asking Ernie if they can borrow his ovens. (Yes, Burt and Ernie.) They destroy the animated bits and pieces by burning it.

And the ash goes into the air, rain comes down and floods the nearby cemetery with trioxin.

Burt (Clu Gulager), Frank (James Karen), and Freddie (Thom Mathews). Dan O'Bannon wanted Leslie Nielsen for Burt.

Stereotyping

Freddie's friends are hanging out in the cemetery waiting for him (because apparently he always knows where the party is), and they're a melange of '80s stereotypes: Freddie's girlfriend is (inexplicably) a preppy. There's a party girl, a suit guy, a death metal guy, a slutty punk girl, and so on. They're slight exaggerations of the types, perhaps, but in real life, they didn't hang out together, generally.

They're fodder, amusingly. The movie is powered by the three old guys.

Even as fodder, though, they have a more real feeling than most main characters in modern flicks. None of them like the death metal guy, Suicide, who bitches that they only call him when they need a ride. When Trash (slutty punk girl) is throwing herself at him in the cemetery, he throws her off saying "Have some respect for the dead."

This is after expressing her sexual frustration by stripping her clothes off and dancing naked on the tombstone, in an iconic scene for Linnea Quigley.

The tone is much like that of Evil Dead 2 in that it's very comical in parts, and very horrifying in others. There are a lot of subtle gags, too, like an eye chart that reads "Burt is a slave driver and a cheap son of a bitch who's going bald", or the pictures of Eva Braun and Hitler up in Ernie's mortuary. (How did Ernie get so good at running a crematorium oven?)

This is where we learn it hurts to be dead, and only the brains of the living helps.

Legacy and Nostalgia

RotLD is a very entertaining movie even today, but it didn't have much of an impact. The sequel, by Ken Wiederhorn (Meatballs Part II, Shock Waves) is an odd remake of the original, with members of the original cast back in new roles. Brian Yuzna (Society, Re-Animator) directed the third installment, and it has a cult following, but it's completely serious. Grim, even.

Zombies went back to their slow-moving unintelligent selves. I don't think this movie actually introduced the brain-eating-zombie trope but I can't prove it. (I also don't think "I'm here to kick ass and chew gum" was original to Roddy Piper but I can't prove that.) And, for the record, Messiah of Evil had running (well-dressed) undead years earlier.

So it just stands as a good, fun horror comedy.

We saw this, as mentioned, as a double-feature with Repo Man at Quentin Tarantino's New Beverly Theater which actually uses a project to project 35mm prints in all their glories (and flaws). Lately, I've been overwhelmed by how much better films look than digital—like, even a trashy older film shot on film creates an effect that is largely absent from digital.

But I didn't think showing them from a print on a projector was such a big deal. It struck me as the same pretentiousness seen in people who insist on playing vinyl records. (I'm not one of those "Nobody can hear the difference" because I wouldn't presume. I'm more "The people who are claiming to hear the different largely aren't.")

Well, color me pretentious, because I felt the projection on these (low-budget, throwaway!) old movies really added something to the viewing experience—scratches and all, because there are scratches on the RotLD print.

The New Beverly also leads with contemporary trailers and ads, which made the whole experience a lot like going to the theater 40 years ago. Down to the guy in front of me in the packed theater being a foot taller and having an enormous head!

I've never been a big nostalgia guy but, wow, what a time machine.

Do You Wanna Party?

In sum, old movies are better. Or they may not be better but they are definitely a safer bet, when you realize how cultural filters work.

But these '80s kids are punks and slackers. I worry for our future.

"Send more paramedics."

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:44 PM

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1 Time machine

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (+qU29)

2 It's astounding.

Time is fleeting.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (asXVI)

3 Arf!

Posted by: Sandy at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (BK31K)

4 Back in a few minutes. I'm watching the RedLetterMedia guys' take on the new Superman movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 07:35 PM (kpS4V)

5 Leslie Nielsen just came out supporting Trump positions. I knew I liked for some reason.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:42 PM (VofaG)

6 Leslie Nielsen just came out supporting Trump positions. I knew I liked for some reason.
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That's unusual, since the dead usually support Democrats.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (asXVI)

7 RotLD
Seen it in the theater. Never seen it replayed anywhere.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 07:46 PM (/lPRQ)

8 I don't like slow zombies or fast zombies. I like regular speed zombies. But if I had to choose it would be slow zombies, Fast zombies are just another kind monster instead of a come back from the dead Human.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:46 PM (VofaG)

9 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

10 Leslie Nielsen just came out supporting Trump positions. I knew I liked for some reason.
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That's unusual, since the dead usually support Democrats.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (asXVI)M

Hah who am I thinking of. I have to find the article. I just saw a headline with his photo,

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (VofaG)

11 LOL, I'm watching James Gunn babble on about interconnected comic book arcs, and with his spiky white hair and manic patter, he's like some sort of cocaine imp come to life.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 07:50 PM (kpS4V)

12 It's either Maltese Falcon or Top Gun at 8pm

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:50 PM (+qU29)

13 Repo Man is a great, great movie. God Bless Harry Dean Stanton!

Posted by: SuperExMayorSuperRonNirenberg-Term Limited, But Still Buff at July 12, 2025 07:50 PM (/8/Rh)

14 Okay . It was the Naked Gun director. Never just read the headlines.

That said I didn't remember that Nielsen died in 2010.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:51 PM (VofaG)

15 80s horror was different. 70s was more dour or downright nihilistic. 80s had a tendency to have some element of humor.

One could argue about the overall tone and feel of the country during those decades as having an influence.

But both decades were both much more likely to have naked women in movies than our current weird culture. Movies are puritanical, but porn/only fans is soaking everything. It's weird.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

16 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

Not looking... day or dawn?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (zZu0s)

17 I love Repo Man.
The scene with generic food cracks me up.
I remember stocking shelves in those brown on brown generics.
That job sucked.

Posted by: Beaver at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (KVlfh)

18 MOAR BRAINS!

Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (jGGMD)

19 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd

Dawn of the Dead. One of the Romeros.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 12, 2025 07:54 PM (ftFVW)

20 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

That would be Dawn of the Dead, aka my personal introduction to the genre.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (jGGMD)

21 MOAR BRAINS!
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (jGGMD)

The great snippet from the Simpsons Halloween special (one of) where a zombie mumbling brains seizes Homer's head, sniffs it, knocks on it, then moves on.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (zZu0s)

22 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

70's had the Exorcist. The 80's were all Stephen King😀

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)

23 70's had the Exorcist. The 80's were all Stephen King😀
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)

First Halloween. Shining was 70s too right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)

24 The 80's were all Stephen King😀
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

The '70s had "Carrie" and "The Shining" (which, for purposes of being pedantic, I'm saying 1980 is "the '70s").

The '80s had swaths of crap movies based on the works of Stephen King, but there were also good movies. The ones NOT based on the works of Stephen King. And "Stand By Me".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:57 PM (asXVI)

25 70's had the Exorcist. The 80's were all Stephen King😀
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)

The only '80s Stephen King movie (a movie that King had actual control over, that is) that I really liked was Maximum Overdrive. Pet Sematery is a distant second, and even it's not that good a movie in my opinion.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:58 PM (jGGMD)

26 "That would be Dawn of the Dead, aka my personal introduction to the genre.
Posted by: Dr. T "

Me too. Saw it at a drive-in.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:58 PM (vFG9F)

27 Texas Chainsaw massacre. There were also a lot of odd, exploitation/torture porn movies in there I have successfully avoided.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:58 PM (zZu0s)

28 >>>The '70s had "Carrie" and "The Shining" (which, for purposes of being pedantic, I'm saying 1980 is "the '70s").

Oh, you're one of *those* people.

But Carter was still president in 1980, so...close enough.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 08:00 PM (jGGMD)

29 First Halloween. Shining was 70s too right?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)

1980

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:01 PM (VofaG)

30 Arf!
Posted by: Sandy at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (BK31K)

Shut up, Sandy!

Posted by: Daddy Warbucks at July 12, 2025 08:01 PM (/HDaX)

31 I saw Motel Hell at that same drive-in theater. Along with Kentucky Fried Movie and Groove Tube.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (vFG9F)

32 1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (VofaG)

33 Thx moviegique. Any year that produced Spinal Tap and Repo Man has got a lot going for it. I was in college and saw both at the low budget Spectrum Theater in Albany. Always had good offbeat movies

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (ZZv2M)

34 Is this the movie were the old guy, I guess it's Frank. crawls into the crematory oven when he knows he's infected?

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:04 PM (ptgc5)

35 Standard first level opponents of an '80s side-scroller fighting game.

Kill the one with the ghetto blaster first. It's gotta be a sonic ranged weapon.

Posted by: Genre-savvy 80's fighting game hero at July 12, 2025 08:05 PM (DgGvY)

36 RotLD is funny.
Clu Gulager steals the show for me. He is completely amoral and treats the zombie outbreak that he helped release as just some nuisance business problem to solve.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:06 PM (3wi/L)

37 Haven't watched either RotLD or Repo Man in eons, but they were both a hell of a lot of fun. The generic food cans bit cracks me up too.

Occasionally look at the web page for the New Beverly, just to torture myself, as there's no way I'll be making a trip there, and if it was in my town, I'd bankrupt myself in the place.

From high school days in Chicago, I recall hitting the Clark Theater a few times during summer vacations. The Clark ran lots of old movies and changed its lineup every day if memory serves.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:06 PM (q3u5l)

38 Now that I no longer have cable and stream everything on the free services I found that a lot of A listers have a lot of crap movies. Lot of movies to choose from but it's like one good movie for every 30 offered.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:07 PM (VofaG)

39 Tonight's Movie Roulette selection:

Avengers: Age of Ultron

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:07 PM (IBQGV)

40 1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.
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The argument goes there was no year zero, so counting decades goes 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40...

You are allowed by most conventions (Geneva, U.N., Comicon) to punch people who make this argument, however.

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Thx moviegique. Any year that produced Spinal Tap and Repo Man has got a lot going for it. I was in college and saw both at the low budget Spectrum Theater in Albany. Always had good offbeat movies
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The big year for "quirky" was 1986. In 1985 there were something like 60-70 movies released. In 1986, there were over 200. (Now it's more like 800.)

The jump from 1985-1986 is the impact of the videocassette (for you nearly 29-year-olds who have heard but never seen such artifacts).

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:07 PM (asXVI)

41 I saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)

42 1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.

There are many people colored pretentious who start counting at 1, and so decades will include 10. I.e., the Eighties would be 1981 to 1990. Because there is no year zero, which means the first decade is years 1 to 10.

I’m inclined to listen to the pedants when they apply this to centuries, because centuries are counting from the start, but decades are about the actual tenths digit. “Eighties” really should mean “years pronounced beginning with “eighty”, and so on.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:09 PM (EXyHK)

43 I saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)
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The shrooms gave you telekinetic powers? Cool!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:09 PM (IBQGV)

44 My favorite quote segment from Return of the Living Dead? The "discussion" between Frank and Freddie:

Frank: It's the crap from the tanks and the goddamn chemicals, it's all over everything!
Freddy: Stupid asshole!
Frank: Watch your tongue, boy, if you like this job!
Freddy: Like this job!?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:09 PM (/HDaX)

45 Is this the movie were the old guy, I guess it's Frank. crawls into the crematory oven when he knows he's infected?
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Yes, kissing the picture of his wife goodbye.

It's horrible, yet also kind of weirdly funny, in that he's been turning into a zombie for hours at this point.

"What's his temperature?"
"Seventy."
"What's that?"
"Room temperature."

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Kill the one with the ghetto blaster first. It's gotta be a sonic ranged weapon.
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Pre-cheat codes and spoilers!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:10 PM (asXVI)

46 1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (VofaG)

I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:10 PM (zZu0s)

47 The bar band in Repo Man:

Doobity doo wop say what yeah.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 12, 2025 08:11 PM (p16cu)

48 saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)

The jump scare that got me was in Jaws when the dead guy's head popped out of the sunken boat,

I wish it was popcorn but it was my soda that I spilled.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:11 PM (VofaG)

49 Clu Gulager steals the show for me. He is completely amoral and treats the zombie outbreak that he helped release as just some nuisance business problem to solve.
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Right? It kind of makes sense that he's friends with Don Calfa (Ernie) even though Calfa is a Nazi in hiding. (Ernie is also "What's in it for me?" when it comes to solving the problem.)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (asXVI)

50 Yes, kissing the picture of his wife goodbye.

Okay, that was what I remember most from the movie, and the idea of having 55gal barrels of zombie juice with some kind of warning label on them.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (ptgc5)

51 I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.

There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)

52 9 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

Wasn't that a Jonathon Coulton song?

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (0aYVJ)

53 and the idea of having 55gal barrels of zombie juice with some kind of warning label on them.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (ptgc5)

Gremlins logic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:13 PM (zZu0s)

54 Occasionally look at the web page for the New Beverly, just to torture myself, as there's no way I'll be making a trip there, and if it was in my town, I'd bankrupt myself in the place.
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Yeah, it's...I mean, they're showing a double-feature of "Gaslight" and "Diabolique" in a couple of weeks. And they remind me so much of the old revival houses, which I lived in, basically.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:13 PM (asXVI)

55 I was late to the party last week and the room was pretty much empty, so I'm just going to mention again that last week's trivia question (what two films released in the '60s didn't get a sequel until the '80s) had a third answer - "2001" and "2010".

There. My work here is done.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (5YmYl)

56 Clu Gulager steals the show for me. He is completely amoral and treats the zombie outbreak that he helped release as just some nuisance business problem to solve.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:06 PM (3wi/L)

Frank: What are we gonna do, Burt?
Burt Wilson: I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm going to be sued by the Darrow Chemical Company. I might even be investigated by the government. I might become very famous, Frank. I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (/HDaX)

57 Do not take Zombie Juice if you are allergic to Zombie Juice.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (ptgc5)

58 41
'I saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.'

That's hilarious.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (3wi/L)

59 I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over.

The first time I watched Carrie it was on a 9-inch or 10-inch black and white television that I’d repaired myself. I was watching it in my bedroom, in bed, because that’s when it was broadcast. I was learning over to turn off the television when that dream turned into a nightmare.

I did not sleep well that night.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (EXyHK)

60 I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.

There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)
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That's a fair point. I have seen several commentators proclaim that Ironheart is already a dated television series in 2025 because it reflects the times from a few years ago.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (IBQGV)

61 Never watched Carrie. Never appealed to me when it was described.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (zZu0s)

62 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:10 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)

Yes that makes sense .

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (VofaG)

63 But these '80s kids are punks and slackers. I worry for our future.
...............................
The Future in NOW!! 😜

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (uGaBv)

64 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (IBQGV)

Plus it is also just an amoral shit show in any decade.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (zZu0s)

65 Never watched Carrie. Never appealed to me when it was described.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM

and now we've spoiled the ending.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (ptgc5)

66 Wasn't that a Jonathon Coulton song?

https://youtu.be/BjMiDZIY1bM?si=RZBtpIiG3BVj124Z

Posted by: Oddbob at July 12, 2025 08:17 PM (/y8xj)

67
*starts to type NO SPOILERS!*

*thinks better of typing NO SPOILERS!*

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:17 PM (ptgc5)

68 51 I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.

There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.
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Well, my argument for some time is that while it's convenient to talk about "the '50s" and "the '60s", culturally, the decades ended on the half after WWII.

I mean, 1945-1955 had the Greatest Generation ethos, and 1955-1965 is rock 'n' roll boomers, and 1965-1975 is dominated by the counter culture, Disco may have died in 1979, but Studio 54 was open until the mid-'80s, and the sound and fashion was very congruous until the big hair/big shoulder pad, etc.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (asXVI)

69 and now we've spoiled the ending.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (ptgc5)

Hah!

Usually for movies that i figure i am going to hate, I just look up the synopsis online somewhere.

The only movie I regret even reading the synopsis for was The Serbian Film.

Really guys, just don't.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (zZu0s)

70

NO SPOILERS!!

Posted by: toby928 oh what the hell at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (ptgc5)

71 New Wave killed Disco.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM (ptgc5)

72 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (IBQGV)

Plus it is also just an amoral shit show in any decade.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (zZu0s)
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No argument from me on that score.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:20 PM (IBQGV)

73 55 I was late to the party last week and the room was pretty much empty, so I'm just going to mention again that last week's trivia question (what two films released in the '60s didn't get a sequel until the '80s) had a third answer - "2001" and "2010".
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What were the other two?

Hmmm.

The Detective->Die Hard
The Hustler->The Color Of Money

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (asXVI)

74 9 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

****
Dawn of the Dead

Posted by: EFG at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (Ai4Tb)

75 I'm going to recommend a movie with our favorite actor , Pedro Pascal.

The Prospect

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (VofaG)

76 I would love to make a life-size Maltese Falcon

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (+qU29)

77 25: The only '80s Stephen King movie (a movie that King had actual control over, that is) that I really liked was Maximum Overdrive
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Heh! I liked Maximum Overdrive too. Kickass soundtrack! The short story it's based on had a MUCH different ending.

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (uGaBv)

78 56
'I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!'

Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)

79 Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (asXVI)

Now you’ve got me wanting to watch Dazed and Confused again. Just for the every-other-decade theory.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (EXyHK)

80 And think original Halloween is still a great horror movie

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:22 PM (+qU29)

81 New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM (ptgc5)

Meanwhile, Metal waits in the shadows, tenting it fingers...

soon... soon

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:22 PM (0aYVJ)

82 "New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928"

I like to think I helped.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:22 PM (vFG9F)

83 Saw Carrie in the theater when it first came out -- waiting in the lobby for the first showing to finish, and heard the audience jump and shriek, so we knew there was going to be a kicker at the finish. We still jumped.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (q3u5l)

84 I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!'

Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)
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There's usually one asshole in horror movies that has his priorities mixed up.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (IBQGV)

85 But these '80s kids are punks and slackers. I worry for our future.

*******

We are your future!

Posted by: Class of 1984, an unappreciated movie with Michael J. Fox at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (Ai4Tb)

86 New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928"

Disco killed disco. Disco merely made new wave inevitable.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (D7oie)

87 1941 Maltese Falcon Statue cast in Black Resin $99

https://tinyurl.com/msamdsxv

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:24 PM (ptgc5)

88 Ha, Amazon has them for $9

https://tinyurl.com/29whpcvk

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:26 PM (ptgc5)

89 Now you’ve got me wanting to watch Dazed and Confused again. Just for the every-other-decade theory.
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Which was ALSO playing at the New Beverly. I haven't seen it, though.

Hey, Just Some Guy, if you want to talk bankrupting yourself watching classic and weird movies?

https://revivalhub.com/

Every week, there are, IDK, maybe a hundred or two showings.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:26 PM (asXVI)

90 Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.

Ironically enough, he was the only guy with his head on straight while everyone else was panicking.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:26 PM (/HDaX)

91 The timeline of Dazed and Confused was me at 10 years old. Grew up in a small town in Wyoming. I knew guys like Wooderson; my best friend's uncle had a Trans Am that was fucking awesome. The girls were so pretty. The smell of leaded gas permeated the air.

Good times.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:27 PM (0aYVJ)

92 The 10 weight, cast in sand then filled in with lead

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:28 PM (+qU29)

93 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

Dawn of the Dead, both the 1978 and 2004 versions.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:28 PM (/HDaX)

94 The original Halloween is still a favorite; none of the sequels and none of the reboots come close.

Die Hard as a sequel to The Detective? Roderick Thorp's novels, sure, but they fiddled with the character so much for the movie that I'm not sure you could really call Willis's flick a sequel to the Sinatra. But it's a nice trivia question. Another good trivia question is to name, without looking them up, all the actors who played the 1960 Magnificent Seven.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:29 PM (q3u5l)

95 Dawn of the Dead, both the 1978 and 2004 versions.
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The movie that brought us Zack Snyder.

Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:29 PM (asXVI)

96 For anyone interested, the new Superman movie is not woke in the least. The movie is, unintentionally I think, actually very conservative. The idea of Superman as an immigrant is present as it has been from the beginning—“strange visitor from another planet” and all—but the movie is much more interested in showing that Superman is a good man because of his upbringing by the Kents. No cheap shots at conservatives here either. If you like the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 08:30 PM (tgTrV)

97 The timeline of Dazed and Confused was me at 10 years old.

I started high school at right about that time. The movie was amazingly on target. And that includes the music, which apparently Linklater had to fight for, literally writing a letter to the band that was going to do covers for the movie and ask them to back out (which they did).

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:30 PM (EXyHK)

98 Die Hard as a sequel to The Detective? Roderick Thorp's novels, sure, but they fiddled with the character so much for the movie that I'm not sure you could really call Willis's flick a sequel to the Sinatra
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It wasn't my trivia question so that may not be the answer. But those were the only other two movies I could think of that were made in the '60s but got sequels in the '80s.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:31 PM (asXVI)

99 Brightburn, which I liked, is Superman, if baby Zod was the one who landed in Kansas.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:32 PM (ptgc5)

100 Oh, I have an original, sure-fire idea, let's do another ORIGIN STORY! Everyone loves an origin story, and we can re-introduce the world to this character that everyone knows! Maybe we can, I dunno, make it into a series or something.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 08:32 PM (D7oie)

101 I kind of love the idea of Frank Sinatra in a 60s era Die Hard.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 08:33 PM (tgTrV)

102 The movie that brought us Zack Snyder.

Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.

Hey, I liked that one too.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:34 PM (/HDaX)

103 I saw that movie! One time, in the theater, when I was a kid. Linnea Quigley's dance and "the pain of being dead".

I was naive to horror movies at the time, and I didn't get the comedy. Might have to go for a re-watch.

I've watch Repo Man more times than I can remember. I spend my life getting into tense situations.

Posted by: Bombadil at July 12, 2025 08:34 PM (MX0bI)

104 One of the things I liked about the new Superman is that it is not an origin story but jumps right into the story after Superman is already established in Metropolis.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 08:35 PM (tgTrV)

105 They're not fast zombies, or slow zombies. They're half-fast zombies.

Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 08:35 PM (i0F8b)

106 Did any of you watch Warm Bodies? A teenage zombie coming of age movie.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)

107 The movie that brought us Zack Snyder.

Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:29 PM (asXVI)

300 would be a near perfect movie without the coerced rape scene.

And the weird Persian shit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (Yamow)

108 I kind of love the idea of Frank Sinatra in a 60s era Die Hard.
Posted by: Open Channel

You must have missed "Von Ryan's Express".

Posted by: Tonypete at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (cYBz/)

109 Momma don't 'llow no halfas zombies 'round hea.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (vFG9F)

110 ... until the big hair/big shoulder pad, etc.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)

Looking at mid-80's yearbooks. Woof.
No likey big hair and the girls went all out.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (/lPRQ)

111 49
'It kind of makes sense that he's friends with Don Calfa (Ernie) even though Calfa is a Nazi in hiding.'

Ha! I just checked that character's name in the cast. He's named Ernie Kaltenbrunner. Those of you who are WWII buffs might recognize that as the name of an SS Nazi war criminal.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (3wi/L)

112 Revival Hub looks like something else that would bankrupt me if I were unlucky enough to live in the same city. Fortunately, I make do with the streaming services. And that Revival Hub schedule -- Good God, a theater showing The Tall Target? How did they pick up on that one? And I'd be one of the first in line -- haven't seen that flick in I don't know when.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (q3u5l)

113 Red Son

[A] decade later, in 1955, the Soviet government releases a propaganda film of an alien superhuman under the command of Joseph Stalin, dubbed the "Soviet Superman". U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower tasks Lex Luthor to develop a countermeasure against him. Meanwhile, in an action planned by Luthor, Superman prevents a satellite from crashing into Metropolis, leading to Luthor's wife, Lois Lane, securing an interview with him. She shows him a top-secret document that leads Superman to a secret gulag shielded by lead. There he meets a young boy surrounded by bats, and a dying Svetlana, who was imprisoned there by Stalin because she knew his real identity. Enraged, Superman confronts and kills Stalin. As a result, he becomes the new leader of the Soviet Union, pledging to use his powers for good and to spread the influence of the Soviet state.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (D7oie)

114 Did any of you watch Warm Bodies? A teenage zombie coming of age movie.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)

Saw about half of it. Caught it on prime but have not gone back to it. Reminded me of a 90s movie where the kid catches a bullet for a girl and comes back as a zombie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (Yamow)

115 But both decades were both much more likely to have naked women in movies than our current weird culture. Movies are puritanical, but porn/only fans is soaking everything. It's weird.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

Out of all the things I couldn’t have imagined, I never could have dreamed of a world where teenagers were scared of sex.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:39 PM (Hlfhp)

116 My boyfriends back?

Movie had an oddly 50ish theme to it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:41 PM (Yamow)

117 Hey, I liked that one too.
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I actually thought Snyder did a good job on the "Dawn" remake. It's nowhere near the '70s movie, but under the circumstances probably the best we could do.

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300 would be a near perfect movie without the coerced rape scene.
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Yeah.

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Warm Bodies
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Cute flick. I want to say it was Nicholas Hoult's "transition" movie from child to adult actor.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:41 PM (asXVI)

118 I've watch Repo Man more times than I can remember. I spend my life getting into tense situations.
Posted by: Bombadil at July 12, 2025 08:34 PM (MX0bI)

"Look at those assholes, ordinary fucking people. I hate 'em."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:42 PM (/HDaX)

119 Oh, I have an original, sure-fire idea, let's do another ORIGIN STORY! Everyone loves an origin story, and we can re-introduce the world to this character that everyone knows! Maybe we can, I dunno, make it into a series or something.
Posted by: Kindltot

But Batman will be darker and edgier than the last nine Batman origin stories. And the Joker will be darker and crazier. We'll print money.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 08:43 PM (DgGvY)

120 94
'all the actors who played the 1960 Magnificent Seven.'

Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn,...

That's as close as I can get.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (3wi/L)

121 Emerald Twilight WOULD be a great comic story to turn into a movie. BUT. Nope.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (Yamow)

122 But Batman will be darker and edgier than the last nine Batman origin stories. And the Joker will be darker and crazier. We'll print money.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 08:43 PM

How about if Batman was the villain? Running the Gotham underworld from his lair, or Bat Cave, if you will.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (ptgc5)

123 Oh, the 10th episode of Murderbot is available. BBL. And that damn quick as each episode is only about 20 minutes long.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (ptgc5)

124 Horst Buchholz and Brad Dexter are the remaining Seven.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (/HDaX)

125 There was a movie (speaking of random, low budget trash) that had vampires shooting wooden bullets at each other. David Carradine. I only saw it once when I was maybe 16. I remember boobs. And Ash from evil dead as a descendant of van helsing?

Sunset something.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (Yamow)

126 I graduated high school in ‘77, my graduation was dazed and confused all the way. Geeks and Freaks was always very familiar terrritory for me.

I remember i kind of wanted to be with the freaks, but since I was good at chemistry and all the teachers liked me i always fell on the geek side of the line.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (Hlfhp)

127 How about Robin is the villain because he is jealous of Batman?

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)

128 127 How about Robin is the villain because he is jealous of Batman?

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)

But save it for a twist at the end.

Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b)

129 Snyder's Dawn of the Dead remake wasn't too shabby. I could have done without zombie newborn, which looked too fake to put up with, but on the whole the flick wasn't a bad zombie flick at all.

The remake of Night of the Living Dead wasn't bad either. Savini directing, Tony Todd and Patricia Tallman as leads with Tallman just girl-boss enough to be plausible without being overbearing. Good stuff. (And why Tallman didn't get lots of leading parts in movies after that is beyond me.)

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:48 PM (q3u5l)

130 Robin was circus folk, IIRC.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:48 PM (ptgc5)

131 124
'Horst Buchholz and Brad Dexter are the remaining Seven.'

I wouldn't have thought of those if given a hundred years.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:49 PM (3wi/L)

132 Sunset something.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (Yamow)

Did some digging and I think "Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat" (1989) is your movie.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)

133 a theater showing The Tall Target? How did they pick up on that one? And I'd be one of the first in line -- haven't seen that flick in I don't know when.
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Their whole schedule is bonkers. All over the map. Moviegoing delirium.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (asXVI)

134 Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn,...

That's as close as I can get.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (3wi/L)

The Kid and the Other Guy are kind of forgettable.

But perhaps the best actor of all is Eli Wallach! I go back and forth on which is better, the American one or Kurosawa’s 7 Samurai. I mostly like the original better, but Wallach’s gang leader is a brilliant addition to the story. (The gang leader is never given much personality in the original)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (Hlfhp)

135 The 80s had that John-Boy Walton Magnificent Seven in space movie.

With Robert Vaughn reprising his role.

Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (i0F8b)

136 "Robin was circus folk, IIRC.
Posted by: toby928"

Holy Big Top, Toby! Now it all makes sense!

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (vFG9F)

137 Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (+qU29)

138 "Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip"

I think all you have to do is pass thru the tail of a comet.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:53 PM (vFG9F)

139 Did some digging and I think "Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat" (1989) is your movie.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)

That's it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:54 PM (Yamow)

140 127 How about Robin is the villain because he is jealous of Batman?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)

Robin is the villain and then Batman backhands him a couple of times and that’s the end of that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:54 PM (Hlfhp)

141 Buchholz & Dexter --

Very few people think of those two, and a lot of the time somebody will name Eli Wallach, forgetting that he was the bad guy.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:54 PM (q3u5l)

142 Sundown, you better be ware
If I find you’ve been vampirin’ round my back stair

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:55 PM (Hlfhp)

143 The remake of Night of the Living Dead wasn't bad either. Savini directing, Tony Todd and Patricia Tallman as leads with Tallman just girl-boss enough to be plausible without being overbearing. Good stuff. (And why Tallman didn't get lots of leading parts in movies after that is beyond me.)
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It's astonishingly good. Different enough from the original to be interesting, not compulsively modern (for 1990).

I always liked Tallman, too, but maybe she preferred being a stuntwoman.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:56 PM (asXVI)

144 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (Hlfhp)

The main kid, Sam, in Freaks and Geeks, was literally the same age as me in 1981. But Sam was way more cool than I ever was. The show, though, was pretty much a documentary of my life as a teenager. Sam's parents were my parents.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:57 PM (0aYVJ)

145 "Invaders From Mars" is on Svengoolie. The perspective is weird for this entire movie.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:57 PM (vFG9F)

146 I'm back and forth on Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven too. The first one I saw was Magnificent Seven, in the theater when I was 11. Don't know how many times I've seen it since, and enjoyed it every time. The remake -- feh.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:57 PM (q3u5l)

147 Looks like Superman will do pretty good bidness this weekend. They’re learning to sidestep get woke go broke. Anti-American movies can still make money if marketed right.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 08:58 PM (ImXfC)

148 139 Did some digging and I think "Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat" (1989) is your movie.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)

That's it.
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IMDB says no boobs, though.

Scanning for them now...

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:58 PM (asXVI)

149 How about if Batman was the villain? Running the Gotham underworld from his lair, or Bat Cave, if you will.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (ptgc5)

There is a Bizarro World (is that the name for it?) DC comic book where Batman, or some version of him, is the villain, and the Joker (or "Jokester") is a stand-up comic turned underground hero. Or something like that.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (jGGMD)

150 IMDB says no boobs, though.

Scanning for them now...

The preview clip for the movie seems to indicate it's an odd piece of work. I may have to check it out.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (/HDaX)

151 Patricia Tallman was on Babylon 5. Played Lyta Alexander.

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (uGaBv)

152 There is a Bizarro World (is that the name for it?) DC comic book where Batman, or some version of him, is the villain, and the Joker (or "Jokester") is a stand-up comic turned underground hero. Or something like that.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (jGGMD)

In Red Son, Batman is a terrorist.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 09:00 PM (D7oie)

153 I think Tallman got a lot of television work as well, so there's that. But she was terrific in the NotLD remake, as good (IMHO) as Sigourney Weaver in Alien.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:00 PM (q3u5l)

154 Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)
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There's usually one asshole in horror movies that has his priorities mixed up.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (IBQGV)

Those beaches will be open! And it's gonna be one of the best summers we've ever had!

Posted by: Mayor Vaughn at July 12, 2025 09:01 PM (jGGMD)

155
106 Did any of you watch Warm Bodies? A teenage zombie coming of age movie.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)
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A zom rom com. Cute flick.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 09:02 PM (kpS4V)

156 One good reason to see Return of the Living dead in 35mm is that they can't change the music. "Dead Beat Dance" from The Damned has been missing from every home video release since the 90's.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 12, 2025 09:02 PM (TdCYS)

157 In a show that had some bad acting, Tillman in Babylon 5 was the worst.

I think i remember the garabaldi actor saying in a commentary 'what's with this dialogue?! It's fricking ponderous, man!'

I liked that guy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 09:03 PM (Yamow)

158 The preview clip for the movie seems to indicate it's an odd piece of work. I may have to check it out.

Carrying on from that, Morgan Brittany, Deborah Foreman and Elizabeth Gracen are in it. Alrighty then!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 09:04 PM (/HDaX)

159 Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip

We Are All Dead (korean, netflix)
How it started is pretty much half the series.

Supposed to have a second season... One of these years.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 09:04 PM (/lPRQ)

160 The oddest Zombie movie I have seen was Valley of the Dead (Spanish MalNazidos), where remnants of Republican irregulars and Nationalist regular units have to combine to survive a German experiment to create a zombie fighting force.
About as well written as any Spanish film, but my goodness, the uniforms, weapons, and period equipment are top notch. Spanish film really cares about Civil War kit.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 09:05 PM (D7oie)

161 A zom rom com. Cute flick.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

There's also a zombie romance anime (because of course there is) called Sankarea: Undying Love.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 09:05 PM (DgGvY)

162 Carrying on from that, Morgan Brittany, Deborah Foreman and Elizabeth Gracen are in it. Alrighty then!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 09:04 PM (/HDaX)

It was odd. I won't spoil the twist ending for a 30 year old b movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 09:06 PM (Yamow)

163 Finally, some movies in my wheelhouse. "You think this is a fuckin' costume? This is a way of life."

And Repo Man is one of the greatest movies of all time.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 12, 2025 09:07 PM (MZ+PY)

164 Bitchin'. Sundown's free on Prime right now.

It was odd. I won't spoil the twist ending for a 30 year old b movie.

I appreciate that.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 09:11 PM (/HDaX)

165 I liked Night of the Living Dead and then the much cheesier Dawn of the Dead. The one in the mall.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:11 PM (rJ7Hd)

166 The first part sounds like the life of the renowned musical composer, playwright, actor, dancer, and singer George M. Cohan, enshrined in “Yankee Doodle Dandy” with James Cagney.

Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:12 PM (GITLP)

167 ZOM 100

Good Japanese zombie flic and the original animated series are good.
Overworked young business guy is thrilled with the zombie apocalypse because he doesn't have to go to his hellish job anymore.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 09:13 PM (/lPRQ)

168 "Dead Beat Dance" from The Damned has been missing from every home video release since the 90's.
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Really?! Dang, the music is so integral to both Repo and RotLD.

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"You think this is a fuckin' costume? This is a way of life."
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As Linnea wiggles all over him.

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157 In a show that had some bad acting, Tillman in Babylon 5 was the worst.
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I know it has its fans, and I'm not going to knock it, but I could not bear the acting. I was not able to make it through the first season.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:14 PM (asXVI)

169 My favorite zombie movie is 28 days later. That really flipped the script on the genre.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:15 PM (nyTxL)

170 The Nicholas Brothers featured in the 1943 movie ‘Stormy Weather‘

Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:16 PM (GITLP)

171 169 My favorite zombie movie is 28 days later. That really flipped the script on the genre.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:15 PM (nyTxL)

I agree! I’m not a big fan of Zombie movies, but that one was really great .

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:16 PM (Hlfhp)

172 Princess Resurrection might count as a zom-rom-com, too. Though the "zombie" boy gets referred to as "half-immortal," not as a zombie. But a reanimated corpse is a reanimated corpse. The titular princess's magic keeps him animated after he gets himself killed trying to protect her.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 09:18 PM (DgGvY)

173 Movie idea. Teenage boy is killed defending his girl from a motorcycle gang. Then he returns as a zombie to seek revenge on the gang. Call it My Boyfriend's Back And You're Gonna Be Sorry.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:18 PM (L/fGl)

174 But a reanimated corpse is a reanimated corpse.

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Frankenhooker.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:19 PM (L/fGl)

175 I know it has its fans, and I'm not going to knock it, but I could not bear the acting. I was not able to make it through the first season.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:14 PM (asXVI)

Well that’s too bad - since after Season 1, Staczinsky had to reboot everything when the star of the Show, Michael O’Hare quit for mental reasons, and I think it improved a great deal! Of course I thing the end of Season 4 is the emotional end of the show, and everything after that is anticlimactic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:21 PM (Hlfhp)

176 But a reanimated corpse is a reanimated corpse.

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Frankenhooker.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:19 PM (L/fGl)

Dead Heat.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 09:21 PM (D7oie)

177 The show was much better when boxleitner replaced o hare

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:22 PM (bXbFr)

178 97 I started high school at right about that time. The movie was amazingly on target. And that includes the music, which apparently Linklater had to fight for, literally writing a letter to the band that was going to do covers for the movie and ask them to back out (which they did).
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:30 PM

I believe the setting in the movie was 1976, which was the summer before my senior year in high school. I was dazzled by how perfectly the movie captured that year, right down to the Adidas t-shirts that everyone I knew was wearing. Mine was red and I loved it!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 12, 2025 09:22 PM (rbKZ6)

179 Zombieland was fun. The whole rules thing. Double tap! Don't be stingy with the ammo!

I think Woody Harrelson had a lot of fun in that movie.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:22 PM (nyTxL)

180 Joe piscopo horror intro with a weird twist

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (bXbFr)

181 As to the acting on Babylon 5 - I think Andreas Katsulos had the role of his life as G’Kar.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (Hlfhp)

182 173 Movie idea. Teenage boy is killed defending his girl from a motorcycle gang. Then he returns as a zombie to seek revenge on the gang. Call it My Boyfriend's Back And You're Gonna Be Sorry.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:18 PM (L/fGl

Gonna need a good theme song though. Have to think about that one.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (nyTxL)

183 Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip

Two words: Dr. Fauci.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:24 PM (L/fGl)

184 Never caught Babylon 5, really. Saw a few first season episodes and fell off; have thought about giving it another try but haven't gotten around to it. One of these years...

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:25 PM (q3u5l)

185 Well that’s too bad - since after Season 1, Staczinsky had to reboot everything when the star of the Show, Michael O’Hare quit for mental reasons, and I think it improved a great deal!
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From what I saw later, I agreed. And...

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As to the acting on Babylon 5 - I think Andreas Katsulos had the role of his life as G’Kar.
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I think the actors playing the aliens were great. Katsulos and the late Stephen Furst as the Minbari toady. And the Minbari ambassador, too.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:26 PM (asXVI)

186 Sounds like a different version of The Crow

Posted by: jsg at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (KJoyi)

187 Are there black exploitation zombie movies? Zom-Bays?

Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (i0F8b)

188 You guys are joking about "My Boyrfiend's Back", right? We all know it's a (not very good) '90s comedy horror, right?

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (asXVI)

189 As to the acting on Babylon 5 - I think Andreas Katsulos had the role of his life as G’Kar.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (Hlfhp)
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The same could be said of his foil, Peter Jurasik as Londo Mollari.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 09:28 PM (IBQGV)

190 Watched F1 Tuesday. I was entertained. It was worth watching and Brad Pitt did a good job. Like the mom said, "he ain't that old!"

Posted by: lin-duh at July 12, 2025 09:28 PM (5MZNC)

191 187 Are there black exploitation zombie movies? Zom-Bays?
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (i0F8b)

Uncle Zom's Cabin

Posted by: jsg at July 12, 2025 09:28 PM (KJoyi)

192 Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip
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World War Z

Posted by: lin-duh at July 12, 2025 09:29 PM (5MZNC)

193 Back from episode 10 of Murderbot. I don't know. This might be the last episode and no season 2. It's not very good and the plot could end right here without any rancor about missed opportunity.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:30 PM (ptgc5)

194 You guys are joking about "My Boyrfiend's Back", right? We all know it's a (not very good) '90s comedy horror, right?
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)

I thought I was being original.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:30 PM (L/fGl)

195 Are there black exploitation zombie movies? Zom-Bays?
Posted by: davidt

They Cloned Tyrone

Not zombies, but clones, and hilarious.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 09:30 PM (/lPRQ)

196
Stephen Furst as the Minbari toady. And the Minbari ambassador, too.

Centauri

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:32 PM (63Dwl)

197 Babylon 5 was a metaphor of the Cold War. Discuss.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:33 PM (ptgc5)

198 Okay, so we've been talking horror comedy here, and there's no love at all for National Lampoon's Class Reunion? Really?

It's like I don't even know you people any more.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:33 PM (q3u5l)

199 Centauri
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Stupid sci-fi writers making up all these alien race na—

Oh, right.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:36 PM (asXVI)

200 I'm watching Little Big Man. I think they borroed from that to write Forrest Gump.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 09:36 PM (VofaG)

201 Funny thing about Stephen Furst: there’s a Rabbi in Tyler, who I know, who is Stephen Furst’s first cousin and who looked exactly like him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (Hlfhp)

202 Late to the party, but I have a copy of John Russo's "Return of the Living Dead" novel. It was written before the movie, and the movie is nothing like it. Russo's book is basically "Night of the Living Dead Part 2: More of the same."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (CHHv1)

203 Saw Superman - as mentioned this morning, best Superman movie ever done. Best Lex Luthor ever done. The most Kansas-values superhero who literally rejects his homeworld Superman. It's my 1st A grade movie since Top Gun Maverick. It only needed a little better intro and a better Hawkgirl.

Everyone should go if they want a summer movie. Someone restrained James Gunn, and in that restraint, he made an epic superhero movie...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)

204 Stephen Furst had a brilliant sense of timing. He seemed to know exactly when to say his line and how to do so, so that it was perfect.

Babylon 5 fans know his "I would like for your associates, Mr. Morden--" speech, which is brilliant and perfectly delivered.

I offer you another, more compact and again perfectly delivered: "Cats."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 09:39 PM (CHHv1)

205 There's a funny story on YouTubes - complete with funny animation - of the members of Parliament/Funkadelic tripping on LSD late at night after a show in Pittsburgh, one member of the band said he knew a shortcut and they had to get out and move road blocks. They proceeded to drive onto the set of the filming of Night of the Living Dead

Posted by: Otto Pen at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (sJHOI)

206 I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s the best Superman movie ever, but it is certainly the best one since Superman II. It’s in the conversation though.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (tgTrV)

207 Night of the Creeps was a fun zombie by alien parasite movie. Plus Jill Whitlow was hot

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (ZZv2M)

208 The Gunns can kiss my ass. I don't support asshole liberals.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:41 PM (nyTxL)

209 And 28 Years Later is terrible! Do not recommend!

Posted by: lin-duh at July 12, 2025 09:41 PM (VCgbV)

210 206 I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s the best Superman movie ever, but it is certainly the best one since Superman II. It’s in the conversation though.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (tgTrV)

Nope, best ever. Clark, Lois, and Lex were all better than any ever done. So were the Kents. Superman is not overpowered and thus, they don't have to rely on ridiculous solutions. Instead, he's powered to work in a movie.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:42 PM (tOcjL)

211 Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)

So the only way you would know that it's supposed to be a lefty political statement is if they told you it was. James Gunn is trolling us.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 09:43 PM (VofaG)

212 202 Late to the party, but I have a copy of John Russo's "Return of the Living Dead" novel. It was written before the movie, and the movie is nothing like it. Russo's book is basically "Night of the Living Dead Part 2: More of the same."

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Right. That's why O'Bannon didn't want to do it. He felt it was too close and too infringing on Romero's domain. (And isn't that a refreshing thought: Wanting to do something different from the popular guy?)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:43 PM (asXVI)

213 208 The Gunns can kiss my ass. I don't support asshole liberals.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:41 PM (nyTxL)

Anytime you watch any movie not done by Angel Studios. you are supporting asshole liberals. If they make great conservative material, and this movie is - this is the Superman that's finally all hero - why not watch it vs some other liberal's subpar movie...just b/c the liberal opened his mouth b/c he realized his movie would drive his fellow liberals away (so he tried to cut that off)?

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:44 PM (tOcjL)

214 Everyone should go if they want a summer movie. Someone restrained James Gunn, and in that restraint, he made an epic superhero movie...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)

0-10 woke scale?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:45 PM (ImXfC)

215 Yes thats a fair reading we pretend #3 and 4 didnt happen

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:45 PM (bXbFr)

216 214 Everyone should go if they want a summer movie. Someone restrained James Gunn, and in that restraint, he made an epic superhero movie...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)

0-10 woke scale?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:45 PM (ImXfC)

.5 max - it's REALLY not woke. I mean, Cat Grant is Cat Grant, if you catch my drift...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (tOcjL)

217 71 New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM
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Wait, I just talked to Doof this morning.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (LVaYG)

218 I didn’t see anything woke in the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (tgTrV)

219 Many are saying Superman is not only pro illegals but also anti-Israel.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (ImXfC)

220 Nicholas hoult could have dialed the jackass down a little

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (bXbFr)

221 209 And 28 Years Later is terrible! Do not recommend!
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I enjoyed it, but I would hesitate to recommend it to anyone else. Maybe Eris.

It's very odd. It's a picaresque dressed up as a post-apocalyptic survival-horror. And the sequel looks like it might be ... well, the movie ends with the protagonist encountering a zombie-fighting tribe led by someone who is clergy but clearly evokes Jimmy Saville.

But we liked it. It "subverted expectations" in a lot of ways.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (asXVI)

222 I think Gunn made a very conservative movie—the values put forth in the movie are *very* conservative—despite himself.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (tgTrV)

223 219 Many are saying Superman is not only pro illegals but also anti-Israel.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (ImXfC)

No, for the "immigrant story", it's a refugee story of absolute assimilation and rejecting your previous evil land...and becoming proud of who you are now and embracing that whole identity of your new land.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:48 PM (tOcjL)

224 OMG, the Air India voice recorder shows, shortly after takeoff on June 12, one of the pilots asked the other why he cut off the fuel.

The other answered, I didn’t cut it off.

Uh oh.

Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:48 PM (GITLP)

225 Well you might think boravia is more like pakistan invading india

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:49 PM (bXbFr)

226 James Gunn is a liberal and a pedo. I won't be supporting anything he does.

'Hollywood director James Gunn’s relationship is over with Disney after a sordid history of pedophilia and rape comments were spotlighted on social media.'

Asshole was joking about this on Social media.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:50 PM (nyTxL)

227 Yes he is very much pro american but anti deeo state

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:50 PM (bXbFr)

228 The politics of the movie are such that you can read whatever you want into them, but the movie is neither pro-illegal alien or anti-Israel on its face. I am sure that the lunatics of the left will interpret it that way but it is not in the text of the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (tgTrV)

229 If we skipped movies (and a lot of tv and books too) because we didn't like the politics of the director, writer, actors could we enjoy movies, tv, or books at all? If they don't beat us over the head with politics in the show or the book, I'm satisfied.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)

230 MSDNC: Trump backs renewed push to rig the U.S. census by only counting citizens

Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:52 PM (GITLP)

231 one of the pilots asked the other why he cut off the fuel.

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What part of 72 virgins don't you understand?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:53 PM (L/fGl)

232 229 If we skipped movies (and a lot of tv and books too) because we didn't like the politics of the director, writer, actors could we enjoy movies, tv, or books at all? If they don't beat us over the head with politics in the show or the book, I'm satisfied.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)

Personally, it's this attitude that I believe got us in the mess we've been in for decades. Slippery slope mentality to me.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:53 PM (nyTxL)

233 one of the pilots asked the other why he cut off the fuel.

Reading the report, the #1 engine was spooling back up but they just ran out of time. Tragic.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:54 PM (ptgc5)

234

Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)

235 My Deer Friend Nokatan is on tubi.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 12, 2025 09:56 PM (lhenN)

236 234

Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)

Which is why he and Lois hook up...repeatedly...

Out just wanted to get in on the press...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:56 PM (tOcjL)

237 Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM

No wonder he kept Olsen around.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:56 PM (ptgc5)

238 234

Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)

It's the underwear, isn't it? Red underwear is a gay thing.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:57 PM (nyTxL)

239 AlaBAMA at 232,

Point noted, and to an extent agreed with. But I can enjoy Spartacus even though screenwriter Dalton Trumbo was as leftist as they come. I can enjoy Guardians of the Galaxy even though James Gunn is...well...James Gunn. I can enjoy Seconds even though Hudson was gay.

Do I contradict myself? You betcha.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:57 PM (q3u5l)

240 If the movie reflected Gunn’s politics or him as a person, I would have passed. The movie itself has a pretty conservative message and I support that. I do get where some of you are coming from though: I won’t see Fantastic Four no matter how good it is because I refuse to support anything with Pedro Pascal in it. Everyone has to make their own choices as to where their redlines are.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:58 PM (tgTrV)

241 Ok they just are peak stupid

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:59 PM (bXbFr)

242 I am amazed at the variety of opinions on Superman.

Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)

243 Point noted, and to an extent agreed with. But I can enjoy Spartacus even though screenwriter Dalton Trumbo was as leftist as they come. I can enjoy Guardians of the Galaxy even though James Gunn is...well...James Gunn. I can enjoy Seconds even though Hudson was gay.

Do I contradict myself? You betcha.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:57 PM (q3u5l

Fair enough. I agree it's hard to police this but we're hurting them now. Costing them money. Taking their power. The more we fight, the more ground we win in the culture war. I'm with Patton. We need to attack Russia now, while we can, so to speak.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (nyTxL)

244 The whole jor el storyline was ridiculous shoehorned a tip to invincible

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (bXbFr)

245 244 The whole jor el storyline was ridiculous shoehorned a tip to invincible

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (bXbFr)

It actually has been done before in 2 other Superman television properties - one which reversed it, and one which kept it...so, it wasn't new...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 10:01 PM (tOcjL)

246 The new Superman actor has given the best rationale for the trunks: Clark is a small town midwestern kid who grew up liking wrestling and wants his uniform to be something that won’t scare people but evoke that kind of feel.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:02 PM (tgTrV)

247 On the flip side, making a liberal filmmaker do a conservative movie and it making a lot of money is ironically hilarious.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:02 PM (nyTxL)

248 Just got out of Superman.

4/5 stars.

No politics, super heroes being heroic.
A little cartoony and silly. There IS a super powered dog in it after all.
But not strictly for kids, there is at least one headshot in the movie and it is not played lightly.

Humor is hit and miss but it isn't as quippy as a Marvel movie.

There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.

Endorsed, if you like superheroes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (xcxpd)

249 Looks like Superman will do pretty good bidness this weekend. They’re learning to sidestep get woke go broke. Anti-American movies can still make money if marketed right.

Critical Drinker noted that the quote that got Ace all hot and bothered was creatively mis-contexted by an extremely gay Variety reporter. Said reporter then asked every single person in the red carpet line about how terrible MAGA is.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (AIhUY)

250 I think part of it is that Zazlav at WB is tamping down the woke stuff—he shelved the Batgirl movie because it would hurt the character of Batman—and I think Gunn was on a short leash.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (tgTrV)

251 Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Well, he does wear a cape.

Incidentally, last book thread some Moron had recommended Night Over Water by Ken Follet so I read it. One thing I learned was back in the day among the English upper class the way to indicate someone was a fag was to refer to them as "musical."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (L/fGl)

252 I guess its not a crazy notion considering his position, but it makes clark either ignorant or rebellious

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (bXbFr)

253 Nood - Club ONT

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:05 PM (vcPNM)

254 NOOD

Club ONT

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2025 10:07 PM (ULPxl)

255 AlaBAMA,

When an actor, director, writer goes out of his way to trumpet his lefty views and tie them to the work, I skip that work. If they don't do such a thing, I'm more inclined to give the work a shot. Stephen King is an example here -- I know he's a raging lefty and has been for years and years, but he used to keep it down better. I skip most of the novels now because he can't seem to keep the TDS out of them. A lot of his short fiction, where there's less room to do that, I can still enjoy.

Gunn has already cost himself my ticket money on Superman, for instance, just by opening his big mouth.

Close as I can get.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (q3u5l)

256 Stephen Furst played Vir.

Flounder.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (zZu0s)

257 Return of the Living Dead - One of my favourite black comedy zombie movies. Not many can get the balance right, but this thing absolutely nailed it (well, at least as my sense of humour is concerned.)

On the barrel that tarman was in:

PROPERTY
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY
CALL 1 (800) 454-8000

Did I just dial it so you don't have to? Absolutely.

Rings a couple of times, then silently connects to another connection which gives a long ring, and then it's answered:

The number you have dialed has changed
To be connected to the new number, press '1' now at a cost of $2.99.

(Uh, no. I hung up.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 12, 2025 10:21 PM (O7YUW)

258 If we skipped movies (and a lot of tv and books too) because we didn't like the politics of the director, writer, actors could we enjoy movies, tv, or books at all? If they don't beat us over the head with politics in the show or the book, I'm satisfied.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)

This attitude is why the left controls everything.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (ImXfC)

259 With the incident of the AI band on Spotify, I would suggest watching the movie "Looker" from 1981. Written and directed by Michael Crichton, starring Albert Finney, Susan Dey, and James Coburn.

Even more topical for that is the 1987 novel "Little Heroes" by Norman Spinrad. And by "topical" I mean "an artificially generated singer and music is the core of the plot".

Posted by: Sam at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (7jMef)

260 It's Go Time, Donald at 258 --

Answered this as well as I'm able to these days at 239 and 255.

Thanks for the thread, moviegique.
Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 10:49 PM (q3u5l)

261
Repo Man is a fun movie.

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