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Architect of COVID Policy Deborah Birx Now Admits Covid "Vaccines" Not Only Did Not Prevent Infections, But Were Never Even Designed to Prevent Infections; Admits "Vaccine" Only Should Have Been Given to Older/High-Risk People
The Vigilant FoxThe incredible -- meaning, completely predictable -- thing here is that she seems to be blaming other people for what she herself did. For example, she says that when we say "we believe in The Science (TM)" we must actually follow the science and not just say that as a public relations tagline. But she's the one who pumped out a ton of lies while claiming "we believe in The Science (TM)." She is scolding us -- "we" erred, she says -- when she was the architect of the scheme of constant, remorseless lies and propaganda about the non-vaccines. I didn't lie about the non-vaccines. Why am I part of the "we" that must do better, and must tell the truth about what the science actually is instead of corrupting it into yet another Democrat Party moral blackmail propaganda point? Note that she has already previously admitted that when Trump would give her an order to change the guidelines for "re-opening" and ending lockdowns, she would deliberately write the guidelines in such a way as to require further lockdowns, while lying to Trump to claim that she had obeyed his orders. She also admitted that she would call state and local authorities on the phone to tell them that no matter what the guidelines said, they should ignore them and continue imposing lockdowns. She thought this was cute and #Brave. She thought she was a real #HerooftheResistance. I notice that she is nicely non-pardoned.
@VigilantFox NEW: Dr. Deborah Birx admits the COVID shots were pushed on the wrong people, saying the rollout on young people ignored the science. Now, she tells us. "The messenger RNA vaccine should have been rolled out for the people that were at risk for severe disease because that's what the vaccine was developed for," Birx said. She also confessed the COVID shot was never "designed" to prevent infection: "That is not what the COVID vaccine was designed to do. It wasn't designed against infection." People lost their jobs under the lie that no one was safe until everyone was vaccinated. Now, four years later, they admit young people never really needed it--and it wasn't even designed to prevent infection.
NEW: Dr. Deborah Birx admits the COVID shots were pushed on the wrong people, saying the rollout on young people ignored the science.
— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) February 18, 2025
Now, she tells us.
“The messenger RNA vaccine should have been rolled out for the people that were at risk for severe disease because that’s… pic.twitter.com/4tCnaDA7Bo
And she knew she was lying -- she admitted it. She admitted that she lied about the risks of covid in order to achieve the Bureaucrat's Dream of forcing people to do what the bureaucrat demands they do.
Ever wonder why officials exaggerated COVID-19 risk?
— Kevin Bass PhD MS (@kevinnbass) November 7, 2024
Here's why:
"When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult [to get people to comply]."
- Deborah Birx, Trump's lockdown architect
They lied to us. On purpose. pic.twitter.com/oR34tOjjsf
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5ehy56
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at February 18, 2025 01:45 PM (T3es0)
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Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 18, 2025 01:46 PM (GYt5+)
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All those videos of young athletes collapsing on fields of play later…
Hey, I think Dr. Birx is onto something here!
Hey, I think Dr. Birx is onto something here!
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 01:46 PM (SWI2U)
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Good to know, good to know. Well, we'll just have to trust the science harder next time.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:47 PM (ExV1e)
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Scarf Lady is sooo hawt!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 18, 2025 01:48 PM (8l+eW)
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Calling her Trumps lockdown architect is slander.
The only one not in and the actual target of The COVID Op was Donald Trump.
Clown.
The only one not in and the actual target of The COVID Op was Donald Trump.
Clown.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 01:48 PM (Z+rMW)
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And she knew she was lying -- she admitted it. She admitted that she lied about the risks of covid in order to achieve the Bureaucrat's Dream of forcing people to do what the bureaucrat demands they do.
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Musk is only attacking the bureaucracy because he wants to steal my grandma's Social Security check.
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Musk is only attacking the bureaucracy because he wants to steal my grandma's Social Security check.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Just the other night I was discussing with a family member how I vainly attempted to describe my jabb hesitancy to her dad, he would not listen and kept challenging me…
I finally yelled at him that he had his head up his ass.
I finally yelled at him that he had his head up his ass.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (SWI2U)
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Good thing we just blindly follow whatever our better tell us to do! We might have thought for ourselves and realized that the young have zero to fear from COVID and avoided getting experimental drugs pumped into us!
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (N1tpc)
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>>>Deborah Birx Now Admits Covid "Vaccines" Not Only Did Not Prevent Infections, But Were Never Even Designed to Prevent Infections; Admits "Vaccine" Only Should Have Been Given to Older/High-Risk People
Nuremberg 2.0.
Nuremberg 2.0.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (i24o9)
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But at least you got some cutely embroidered masks out of it! Tee-hee!
Posted by: Deborah Birx, American Traitor at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (lHPJf)
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Remember when everyone was saying Birx was the gold standard of trustworthiness? Bonhomme remembers. Even reliable conservatives who had spent a long time watching DC politics were saying Birx was an apolitical straight shooter.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (Odg76)
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Burn the witch!
Posted by: Mr. Matamoros at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (RgM/c)
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Yup, she already admitted that compared to Fauci she was the real bad guy driving the Kung Flu Freakout and the whole "two weeks" was just a ruse to fvck people for shits and giggles.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 18, 2025 01:50 PM (8l+eW)
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Hey Siri, what's the difference between "gibbet" and "gallows"?
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 01:50 PM (lHPJf)
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Imma have to sit this one out. Still so angry at the millions of lives ruined and snuffed out by a coordinated mob og gangsta elites who never took the jabb themselves
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 01:50 PM (SWI2U)
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JAIL TIME
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (WIRXc)
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The fact that she isn't making this statement while hooded and standing atop of the trap door on the gallows shows that we are not a serious people.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (oa1NA)
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Deborah Birx, Trump's lockdown architect
So, this is all being said now as a way to tarnish Trump.
So, this is all being said now as a way to tarnish Trump.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (ExV1e)
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12 Remember when everyone was saying Birx was the gold standard of trustworthiness? Bonhomme remembers. Even reliable conservatives who had spent a long time watching DC politics were saying Birx was an apolitical straight shooter.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (Odg76)
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If Birx's admissions aren't a final nail in the coffin for a self-labeled conservative's opinion of the apolitical bureaucracy, that self-labeled conservative should be insulted regularly.
I mean...it's frustrating that people weren't suspicious of "independent" agencies in a political system from the get-go, but covid was such a massive, massive failure that no one has even admitted any hand in getting wrong that...you have to be fucking retarded to not have gotten the whole corruption of the system by now.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (Odg76)
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If Birx's admissions aren't a final nail in the coffin for a self-labeled conservative's opinion of the apolitical bureaucracy, that self-labeled conservative should be insulted regularly.
I mean...it's frustrating that people weren't suspicious of "independent" agencies in a political system from the get-go, but covid was such a massive, massive failure that no one has even admitted any hand in getting wrong that...you have to be fucking retarded to not have gotten the whole corruption of the system by now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (GBKbO)
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"When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult [to get people to comply]."
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Should be a bumper sticker with a graphic of a hypodermic needle. It was a vaccine this time. What will be in the needle next time?
"When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult [to get people to comply]."
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Should be a bumper sticker with a graphic of a hypodermic needle. It was a vaccine this time. What will be in the needle next time?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (T3es0)
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Willowed:
This meteor strike almost took out the visitors center.
https://barringercrater.com/for-visitors/
This meteor strike almost took out the visitors center.
https://barringercrater.com/for-visitors/
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (jfdO+)
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May the fleas of a thousand camels take up residence on her.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (Aqu9a)
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Musk is only attacking the bureaucracy because he wants to steal my grandma's Social Security check.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
I hope he does, because my grandma's been dead for years and I'd prefer Musk have it over whoever else has been stealing it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
I hope he does, because my grandma's been dead for years and I'd prefer Musk have it over whoever else has been stealing it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (N1tpc)
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Even reliable conservatives who had spent a long time watching DC politics were saying Birx was an apolitical straight shooter.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (Odg76)
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (Odg76)
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Sean Hannity at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (lHPJf)
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It's 95% x Eleventy % effective !!!!!!
Posted by: Scarf Whore at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (NtVYv)
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24 Musk is only attacking the bureaucracy because he wants to steal my grandma's Social Security check.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
I hope he does, because my grandma's been dead for years and I'd prefer Musk have it over whoever else has been stealing it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (N1tpc)
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Damn...I didn't even think of that angle of the joke because both of my grandmas have been dead for years, too!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)
I hope he does, because my grandma's been dead for years and I'd prefer Musk have it over whoever else has been stealing it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (N1tpc)
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Damn...I didn't even think of that angle of the joke because both of my grandmas have been dead for years, too!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)
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Architect of COVID Policy Deborah Birx Now Admits Covid "Vaccines" Not Only Did Not Prevent Infections, But Were Never Even Designed to Prevent Infections; Admits "Vaccine" Only Should Have Been Given to Older/High-Risk People
Since they weren't, why were they given?
Since they weren't, why were they given?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (jfdO+)
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Calling her Trumps lockdown architect is slander.
The only one not in and the actual target of The COVID Op was Donald Trump.
Clown.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 01:48 PM (Z+rMW)
Trump didn't fire her. You can make all the rationalizations you want, but he was President, and these were his advisors.
The WHOLE point of Trump 2.0 is to keep away from him as much as possible, the people who would do this type of thing again. And there ARE people in his administration RIGHT NOW who might.
The only one not in and the actual target of The COVID Op was Donald Trump.
Clown.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 01:48 PM (Z+rMW)
Trump didn't fire her. You can make all the rationalizations you want, but he was President, and these were his advisors.
The WHOLE point of Trump 2.0 is to keep away from him as much as possible, the people who would do this type of thing again. And there ARE people in his administration RIGHT NOW who might.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (dGCAG)
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Vaccine" Only Should Have Been Given to Older/High-Risk People
So there it is. They meant to kill off old people and high risk people.
So there it is. They meant to kill off old people and high risk people.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (jgmnb)
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Willowed:
This meteor strike almost took out the visitors center.
https://barringercrater.com/for-visitors/
Why does this keep happening? I mean, what are the odds that an enormous canyon would open up right next to the Grand Canyon Visitor's Center?
This meteor strike almost took out the visitors center.
https://barringercrater.com/for-visitors/
Why does this keep happening? I mean, what are the odds that an enormous canyon would open up right next to the Grand Canyon Visitor's Center?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 01:53 PM (xCA6C)
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Yah know, it’s almost as if Covid was an OP or something…
Posted by: tubal at February 18, 2025 01:53 PM (I7EWV)
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TRUMP LIED ABOUT COVID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Kamal Harris at February 18, 2025 01:54 PM (WKgpm)
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Don't forget. Don't let them say "mistakes were made." Don't accept "let's put this behind us."
My company fired 33% of the workforce for refusing a covid shot. Some of the rest of us had workarounds...amazingly, the company wasn't requiring people to present their actual vax cards, but would accept a picture of one. Draw your own conclusions about why I still have a job there.
But the insult is having to do all of that to begin with. To be glared at and abused for not wearing a face diaper by same people who complained about the smell of my cigar smoke while wearing theirs. To be told I should be left to die if I have a stroke because I don't have a stupid shot.
And so on.
There can be no forgiveness, there can be no moving forward, there can be none of it until the perpetrators are all punished. Severely.
My company fired 33% of the workforce for refusing a covid shot. Some of the rest of us had workarounds...amazingly, the company wasn't requiring people to present their actual vax cards, but would accept a picture of one. Draw your own conclusions about why I still have a job there.
But the insult is having to do all of that to begin with. To be glared at and abused for not wearing a face diaper by same people who complained about the smell of my cigar smoke while wearing theirs. To be told I should be left to die if I have a stroke because I don't have a stupid shot.
And so on.
There can be no forgiveness, there can be no moving forward, there can be none of it until the perpetrators are all punished. Severely.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 01:54 PM (PzXaK)
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Admits "Vaccine" Only Should Have Been Given to Older/High-Risk People
It was too early in the operation to start killing younger people. Kill the at-risk people and nobody is going to say anything, in fact, they'll just accustom themselves to death.
It was too early in the operation to start killing younger people. Kill the at-risk people and nobody is going to say anything, in fact, they'll just accustom themselves to death.
Posted by: Dr. Scarf at February 18, 2025 01:54 PM (qL8Uu)
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She needs a sharp lesson
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 18, 2025 01:54 PM (xcxpd)
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Just the other night I was discussing with a family member how I vainly attempted to describe my jabb hesitancy to her dad, he would not listen and kept challenging me…
I finally yelled at him that he had his head up his ass.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (SWI2U)
My company required the shot since we are "a government contractor" but we could get a religious exemption. I told them it was the mark of the beast and they could fire me but I wouldn't get the shot. Shockingly, they granted my exemption.
I finally yelled at him that he had his head up his ass.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (SWI2U)
My company required the shot since we are "a government contractor" but we could get a religious exemption. I told them it was the mark of the beast and they could fire me but I wouldn't get the shot. Shockingly, they granted my exemption.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)
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So there it is. They meant to kill off old people and high risk people.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (jgmnb)
I bet they feel foolish now, after the 65+ crowd skewed more Democratic last year than the younger cohorts.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (jgmnb)
I bet they feel foolish now, after the 65+ crowd skewed more Democratic last year than the younger cohorts.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 01:55 PM (lHPJf)
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I’m just spitballing here but perhaps 99% of people will be fine should be a clue that society shouldn’t be shutdown for some virus going around.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 18, 2025 01:55 PM (H9ZTk)
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They enjoy the lying so much that they have to keep doing it, keep rubbing it in your face.
It's a very weird particularly evil variant of I was lying then but you can trust me now. Because it's not even that.
It's more like "I was lying then, but I want you to believe me now even though I'm still lying because it will be funny to watch you take it seriously right now even though I'm literally telling you I'm a liar and not to believe me because it was your fault for believing me in the first place. Tomorrow I will lie again, probably about today's lie, then the next day that lie will change and I will even lie about that, and you'll still be here, isn't this fun?!"
It's the kind of thing I would imagine Satan would do when you arrive in hell. Or actually what he does anyway. He's not even telling you to trust him, just to follow him even though he's a liar.
It's a very weird particularly evil variant of I was lying then but you can trust me now. Because it's not even that.
It's more like "I was lying then, but I want you to believe me now even though I'm still lying because it will be funny to watch you take it seriously right now even though I'm literally telling you I'm a liar and not to believe me because it was your fault for believing me in the first place. Tomorrow I will lie again, probably about today's lie, then the next day that lie will change and I will even lie about that, and you'll still be here, isn't this fun?!"
It's the kind of thing I would imagine Satan would do when you arrive in hell. Or actually what he does anyway. He's not even telling you to trust him, just to follow him even though he's a liar.
Posted by: ... at February 18, 2025 01:55 PM (lX8VI)
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38 So there it is. They meant to kill off old people and high risk people.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (jgmnb)
I bet they feel foolish now, after the 65+ crowd skewed more Democratic last year than the younger cohorts.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 01:55 PM (lHPJf)
Yeah, no fool like an old fool…
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (jgmnb)
I bet they feel foolish now, after the 65+ crowd skewed more Democratic last year than the younger cohorts.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 01:55 PM (lHPJf)
Yeah, no fool like an old fool…
Posted by: tubal at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (I7EWV)
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I've lost count on how many conspiracy theories turned out to be conspiracy fact over the last decade.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (6ydKt)
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Fauci and this broad need to take a ride on that asteroid that's coming. Until then, dungeon time for both. We'll save a lot of govt. money if we just toss them both in the same unlit cell with a bucket and a couple of canteens.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (J2vNu)
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She just admits it, smiling and unruffled, like she had nothing to do with it at all. This is smoking gun stuff. Too bad the interviewer was not aggressive on the point. This actually shocks me.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (5xgzq)
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We need show trials.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (rJ48h)
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38 I bet they feel foolish now, after the 65+ crowd skewed more Democratic last year than the younger cohorts.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 01:55 PM (lHPJf)
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Leftist propaganda tends to directly influence leftists more than those who are not leftists. For righties, it's more of an inverse effect.
It's why I always kind of just laugh at leftist propaganda. The whole anti-life attitude over the past 16 years or so has just led to leftist having fewer kids than righties on balance.
The future belongs to those who show up, and the left has decided, on average, that showing up isn't worth it because the world is gonna be in flames, or something.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 01:55 PM (lHPJf)
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Leftist propaganda tends to directly influence leftists more than those who are not leftists. For righties, it's more of an inverse effect.
It's why I always kind of just laugh at leftist propaganda. The whole anti-life attitude over the past 16 years or so has just led to leftist having fewer kids than righties on balance.
The future belongs to those who show up, and the left has decided, on average, that showing up isn't worth it because the world is gonna be in flames, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
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The biggest thing in all of this?
Making healthy people believe they are sick.
The stupidest thing?
Those fucking ER Staff Dance Videos.
Making healthy people believe they are sick.
The stupidest thing?
Those fucking ER Staff Dance Videos.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (PzXaK)
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This was all about control and the 2020 election....
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (VE6XX)
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Look, wingers: mistakes were made. By whom is unimportant. That’s all the apology you’re getting.
Now crawl back into your trailer parks and leave The Science to us Experts!
Now crawl back into your trailer parks and leave The Science to us Experts!
Posted by: Dr. Deborah Birx, Doctor of Medicine at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (l3YAf)
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Birch and Fauci are why we got RFK Jr.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 18, 2025 01:57 PM (QgACb)
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 01:57 PM (xCA6C)
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Saying that this won't stop the flu is a lie.
Maybe it won't stop the flu, but you should take it anyway.
Maybe it is harmful, but we didn't know at the time.
Forcing people to take a dangerous shot with no medical benefit was a good thing.
I think they are moving from stage 3 to stage 4.
Maybe it won't stop the flu, but you should take it anyway.
Maybe it is harmful, but we didn't know at the time.
Forcing people to take a dangerous shot with no medical benefit was a good thing.
I think they are moving from stage 3 to stage 4.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 01:57 PM (lTGtQ)
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>>>My company fired 33% of the workforce for refusing a covid shot. Some of the rest of us had workarounds...amazingly, the company wasn't requiring people to present their actual vax cards, but would accept a picture of one. Draw your own conclusions about why I still have a job there.
Obviously because you are a patriotic, conscientious employee who understands the need to Trust the Science.
As we shall all say if your bosses ask.
Obviously because you are a patriotic, conscientious employee who understands the need to Trust the Science.
As we shall all say if your bosses ask.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 01:57 PM (lHPJf)
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Why is she saying this now?
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 01:57 PM (pLaQB)
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My company required the shot since we are "a government contractor" but we could get a religious exemption. I told them it was the mark of the beast and they could fire me but I wouldn't get the shot. Shockingly, they granted my exemption.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)
Plane company location in ok granted every single exemption asked for. Same company in Seattle granted almost 0.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)
Plane company location in ok granted every single exemption asked for. Same company in Seattle granted almost 0.
Posted by: BruceWayne at February 18, 2025 01:57 PM (MGB5H)
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Damn...I didn't even think of that angle of the joke because both of my grandmas have been dead for years, too!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman
My maternal grandmother never got a dollar of SS or her Air Force pension (she died too young at 60). Her husband (grandfather) died before there ever was Social Security.
My paternal grandmother lived to be 87, but that was over 35 years ago when she passed.
I collect SS, and my two older sisters collect SS, and so do my two BiL's. My older BiL voted for Trump, so I am sure he's happy.
And Deborah Birx should be tried as an accessory to murder for all the people that died "vax injured", like my nephew and my deceased BiL.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman
My maternal grandmother never got a dollar of SS or her Air Force pension (she died too young at 60). Her husband (grandfather) died before there ever was Social Security.
My paternal grandmother lived to be 87, but that was over 35 years ago when she passed.
I collect SS, and my two older sisters collect SS, and so do my two BiL's. My older BiL voted for Trump, so I am sure he's happy.
And Deborah Birx should be tried as an accessory to murder for all the people that died "vax injured", like my nephew and my deceased BiL.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (H9ZTk)
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No jabs no.how:
-Zombie Wizard of Oz
-Zombie Wizard of Oz
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (w4nzS)
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I used to work with a woman like her -- Not dumb, but out of her league yet amiable and somehow always knew just enough buzzwords to look smart in meetings with exec. staff.
Underneath the non-threatening facade she was scheming and vile and it seemed her greatest skill was in diverting blame and subtly taking out any competition by having them blamed for everything wrong that she had supported.
But I have known somewhat similar female managers in other jobs too -- always male dominated companies. I wonder if this is a personality trait that has some logical explanation. Something Jordan Peterson would probably be able to explain.
Underneath the non-threatening facade she was scheming and vile and it seemed her greatest skill was in diverting blame and subtly taking out any competition by having them blamed for everything wrong that she had supported.
But I have known somewhat similar female managers in other jobs too -- always male dominated companies. I wonder if this is a personality trait that has some logical explanation. Something Jordan Peterson would probably be able to explain.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (baIR6)
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44 She's got that common liblady 3rd-grade teacher shtick where she explains everything like she's talking to f'n kids.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (5xgzq)
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State level prosecutions now.
Her and Fauci charged with manslaughter--wonton disregard for safety that caused the death of thousands and thousands.
And class-action civil lawsuits.
I want them bastards bankrupt and in prison for life.
Her and Fauci charged with manslaughter--wonton disregard for safety that caused the death of thousands and thousands.
And class-action civil lawsuits.
I want them bastards bankrupt and in prison for life.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (fPmw+)
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Allow me to help you with your scarf, bitch.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (bNf8H)
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I was nooderrupted:
1. That black racist c-----nt in that stupid Wizard of Oz "remake" has supposebly been cast in a "remake" of Jesus Christ Superstar. Don't ask as Who. Just don't.
b) Also in movie news: The overrated director christopher nolan is making some Odyssey movie?? The Iliad Odyssey, thing? I dunno.
But he cast the unlikable untalented mr matt damon as, get this, Odysseus.
Wait, There's More!
nolan also cast ellen page in his stupid movie. As what? Dunno. But it won't be good.
I was nooderrupted:
1. That black racist c-----nt in that stupid Wizard of Oz "remake" has supposebly been cast in a "remake" of Jesus Christ Superstar. Don't ask as Who. Just don't.
b) Also in movie news: The overrated director christopher nolan is making some Odyssey movie?? The Iliad Odyssey, thing? I dunno.
But he cast the unlikable untalented mr matt damon as, get this, Odysseus.
Wait, There's More!
nolan also cast ellen page in his stupid movie. As what? Dunno. But it won't be good.
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (jv3tj)
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Never forget
Never forgive.
Never forgive.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (8l+eW)
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I don't care if that bitch IS someone's grandma. Take her shit and throw her in prison.
After short trial and conviction of course.
After short trial and conviction of course.
Posted by: puhleaze at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (bbuBP)
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I think they are moving from stage 3 to stage 4.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 01:57 PM (lTGtQ)
With a glimpse of stage 5: It was a bad thing, but it was all Trump's idea.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 01:57 PM (lTGtQ)
With a glimpse of stage 5: It was a bad thing, but it was all Trump's idea.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 01:59 PM (lHPJf)
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Oh, watch pop culture too.
There's a new show on Max called The Pitt. It's supposed to be a kind of not really sequel to ER that's just different enough to keep us out of court kind of show.
One of the doctors is apparently suffering PTSD from the COVID epidemic that had the entire ER in biohazard gear. Yeah. And they don't tend to miss a chance to talk about people who died from it.
Just when I find a show I might like to watch, this bullshit comes in.
There's a new show on Max called The Pitt. It's supposed to be a kind of not really sequel to ER that's just different enough to keep us out of court kind of show.
One of the doctors is apparently suffering PTSD from the COVID epidemic that had the entire ER in biohazard gear. Yeah. And they don't tend to miss a chance to talk about people who died from it.
Just when I find a show I might like to watch, this bullshit comes in.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 01:59 PM (PzXaK)
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Deborah Birx Now Admits Covid "Vaccines" Not Only Did Not Prevent Infections, But Were Never Even Designed to Prevent Infections; Admits "Vaccine" Only Should Have Been Given to Older/High-Risk People
So the questions are:
1. What was the purpose of the vaxx;
2. How was that beneficial to old people?
So the questions are:
1. What was the purpose of the vaxx;
2. How was that beneficial to old people?
Posted by: Ciampino - what to do short of wiping them all out? at February 18, 2025 01:59 PM (KjLnc)
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>>> Why does this keep happening? I mean, what are the odds that an enormous canyon would open up right next to the Grand Canyon Visitor's Center?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 01:53 PM (xCA6C)
There does happen to be a shack showing off the world's largest pallasite meteorite next door to the shack showing off the world's largest hand dug we'll in the middle of Kansas. I was always worried the one would fall into the other and get lost .
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 01:53 PM (xCA6C)
There does happen to be a shack showing off the world's largest pallasite meteorite next door to the shack showing off the world's largest hand dug we'll in the middle of Kansas. I was always worried the one would fall into the other and get lost .
Posted by: banana Dream at February 18, 2025 01:59 PM (Y6IkP)
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What was telling - many of us contracted the WuHan flu, and recovered, long before any vaccine was a gleam in Fauci’s eye.
Naturally conferred immunity is always superior - not necessarily better, as in the case of say, Polio - but all the “experts” feigned ignorance, including Fauci.
Whatever their goals were, they were not sharing them with the World. It is inexplicable.
Naturally conferred immunity is always superior - not necessarily better, as in the case of say, Polio - but all the “experts” feigned ignorance, including Fauci.
Whatever their goals were, they were not sharing them with the World. It is inexplicable.
Posted by: Common Tater at February 18, 2025 01:59 PM (+/0+/)
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Whoops! Whoopsie!
Posted by: Chuck C at February 18, 2025 01:59 PM (D0HYP)
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I bet they feel foolish now, after the 65+ crowd skewed more Democratic last year than the younger cohorts.
If there is someone they despise more than free Americans, it is the useful idiots who parrot their talking points for them.
If there is someone they despise more than free Americans, it is the useful idiots who parrot their talking points for them.
Posted by: t-bird at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (A1ulB)
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So there it is. They meant to kill off old people and high risk people.
Posted by: Eromero
I still wonder if the chinese were trying to tailor this enhanced virus in order to help their demographics.
Posted by: Eromero
I still wonder if the chinese were trying to tailor this enhanced virus in order to help their demographics.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (lTGtQ)
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All of her precious scarves should be gathered up, piled high, doused adequately in kerosene, and lit afire while she watches, restrained in a pillory.
Dibs on the rotten fruit concession.
Dibs on the rotten fruit concession.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (Aqu9a)
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She just admits it, smiling and unruffled, like she had nothing to do with it at all. This is smoking gun stuff. Too bad the interviewer was not aggressive on the point. This actually shocks me.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (5xgzq)
The smiling face of evil.
They denied effective therapeutics to people undeniably leading to more deaths and suffering so that they and their cronies could profit off a large scale non-consensual science experiment.
Make no mistake. You cannot give informed consent when you are coerced and lied to about the medical benefits and risks.
And lie they did; here's one admission.
They all deserve the death penalty.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (5xgzq)
The smiling face of evil.
They denied effective therapeutics to people undeniably leading to more deaths and suffering so that they and their cronies could profit off a large scale non-consensual science experiment.
Make no mistake. You cannot give informed consent when you are coerced and lied to about the medical benefits and risks.
And lie they did; here's one admission.
They all deserve the death penalty.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (i24o9)
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autocucumber gets worse every day
Posted by: banana Dream at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (Y6IkP)
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So, please tell us, what it was, exactly this "vaccine" was designed to do, if it wasn't to prevent disease.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (Eo96p)
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Prior to the election Biden's people said you shouldn't take the "Trump shot" and that he would never impose a clot shot mandate.
After election he told the public you couldn't get COVID if you got the clot shot and imposed mandates.
And in fairness in part to Biden the "science" that Pfizer and Moderna submitted said that the clot shot was 99% effective in reducing the spread of COVID. Because they falsified the data as their auditors, who were then fired, came out and said.
So come on Trump/RFK, time to put every making decisions at Pfizer and Moderna in prison for the rest of their lives
After election he told the public you couldn't get COVID if you got the clot shot and imposed mandates.
And in fairness in part to Biden the "science" that Pfizer and Moderna submitted said that the clot shot was 99% effective in reducing the spread of COVID. Because they falsified the data as their auditors, who were then fired, came out and said.
So come on Trump/RFK, time to put every making decisions at Pfizer and Moderna in prison for the rest of their lives
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (t0Rmr)
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Willowed:
This meteor strike almost took out the visitors center.
https://barringercrater.com/for-visitors/
Why does this keep happening? I mean, what are the odds that an enormous canyon would open up right next to the Grand Canyon Visitor's Center?
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I've been to both and GC is amazing but standing on the rim of the Meteor Crater makes you feel so small. Its massive. Astronauts trained there for moon missions.
This meteor strike almost took out the visitors center.
https://barringercrater.com/for-visitors/
Why does this keep happening? I mean, what are the odds that an enormous canyon would open up right next to the Grand Canyon Visitor's Center?
@@@@@@@@
I've been to both and GC is amazing but standing on the rim of the Meteor Crater makes you feel so small. Its massive. Astronauts trained there for moon missions.
Posted by: megthered at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (J9ZRC)
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If the "vaccine" was not designed to prevent infection, why even give it to at-risk people?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (Sf2cq)
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But he cast the unlikable untalented mr matt damon as, get this, Odysseus.
Wait, There's More!
nolan also cast ellen page in his stupid movie. As what? Dunno. But it won't be good.
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (jv3tj)
Did Odysseus have a catamite, perchance, because I can’t think of anything else Page would be fit for…
But he cast the unlikable untalented mr matt damon as, get this, Odysseus.
Wait, There's More!
nolan also cast ellen page in his stupid movie. As what? Dunno. But it won't be good.
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 18, 2025 01:58 PM (jv3tj)
Did Odysseus have a catamite, perchance, because I can’t think of anything else Page would be fit for…
Posted by: tubal at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (I7EWV)
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This was all about control and the 2020 election....
Posted by: It's me donna
The planning for this "plandemic" was started when Obama was Prezzident.
Hillary was supposed to follow, and she was going to lock this country down tighter than a corset on Anna Nicole Smith, when the Plandemic actually arrived.
Posted by: It's me donna
The planning for this "plandemic" was started when Obama was Prezzident.
Hillary was supposed to follow, and she was going to lock this country down tighter than a corset on Anna Nicole Smith, when the Plandemic actually arrived.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (vcOmj)
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So… mass murder, you admit to?
Prosecute and jail for life.
That’s the moderate option.
I am not even kidding - I am watching my formerly fit and healthy dad die in slow motion thanks to these (redacted)!!
Prosecute and jail for life.
That’s the moderate option.
I am not even kidding - I am watching my formerly fit and healthy dad die in slow motion thanks to these (redacted)!!
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (Hkcdp)
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"The messenger RNA vaccine ..."
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Wut? I thought that the "m" stood for "modified," not "messenger," as I had first thought.
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Wut? I thought that the "m" stood for "modified," not "messenger," as I had first thought.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (ItAg0)
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Trying to turn States Evidence to save her own neck from the hangman noose?
She is just as culpable for the crimes against humanity
She is just as culpable for the crimes against humanity
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (fwDg9)
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My company fired 33% of the workforce for refusing a covid shot. Some of the rest of us had workarounds...amazingly, the company wasn't requiring people to present their actual vax cards, but would accept a picture of one. Draw your own conclusions about why I still have a job there.
But the insult is having to do all of that to begin with. To be glared at and abused for not wearing a face diaper by same people who complained about the smell of my cigar smoke while wearing theirs. To be told I should be left to die if I have a stroke because I don't have a stupid shot.
And so on.
There can be no forgiveness, there can be no moving forward, there can be none of it until the perpetrators are all punished. Severely.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025
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I have no idea how many my employer fired for refusing the clot shot. Since so many of this so-called "work force" here were already brainwashed, resistance was probably small. I got a religious exemption. But I lost all respect for the place for falling for the hoax 1000% -- and threatening us with loss of job for wanting to keep our health.
But the insult is having to do all of that to begin with. To be glared at and abused for not wearing a face diaper by same people who complained about the smell of my cigar smoke while wearing theirs. To be told I should be left to die if I have a stroke because I don't have a stupid shot.
And so on.
There can be no forgiveness, there can be no moving forward, there can be none of it until the perpetrators are all punished. Severely.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025
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I have no idea how many my employer fired for refusing the clot shot. Since so many of this so-called "work force" here were already brainwashed, resistance was probably small. I got a religious exemption. But I lost all respect for the place for falling for the hoax 1000% -- and threatening us with loss of job for wanting to keep our health.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (J2vNu)
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Did this cumsoaked IUD happen to mention what the "vaccine" *was* designed for, or for that matter, why they called it a "vaccine"?
Posted by: ... at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (lX8VI)
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A woman named Margaret Brennan told me that exposing dangerous truths like this will bring Nazi's to power.
That girl got a fine set of Jiggle Twins.
That girl got a fine set of Jiggle Twins.
Posted by: SOME GUY NAMED WILLIE at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (Tjd07)
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How much Pfizer stock did she buy, and when did she buy, sell it???? Moderna etc etc
Posted by: Self licking cones at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (JsT2K)
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People were fired because they would not take the shot. This was under Biden/Harris.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (QgACb)
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>>>All of her precious scarves should be gathered up, piled high, doused adequately in kerosene, and lit afire while she watches, restrained in a pillory.
While she *watches*? Piker.
While she *watches*? Piker.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (lHPJf)
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So, please tell us, what it was, exactly this "vaccine" was designed to do, if it wasn't to prevent disease.
Cover Fauci's ass
Make lots of money
Give the government a reason to crack down on people that wouldn't take it.
TBH from the government's perspective the fact that clot shot was actually poison just ended up being an added "bonus" in trimming those healthcare budgets.
Cover Fauci's ass
Make lots of money
Give the government a reason to crack down on people that wouldn't take it.
TBH from the government's perspective the fact that clot shot was actually poison just ended up being an added "bonus" in trimming those healthcare budgets.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (t0Rmr)
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Unfortunately, too little too late for many people. Never forgive or forget what was done and what was taken from the young. Never.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at February 18, 2025 02:02 PM (L1JuH)
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I guess we’ve just gotten confirmation of what Bill Gates meant by vaccination will control overpopulation.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:02 PM (Hkcdp)
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If the "vaccine" was not designed to prevent infection, why even give it to at-risk people?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (Sf2cq)
Honest answer? I think it was all part of the op, to find out how Americans would react, and additionally, to figure out what the "kinks" might be with gene therapy.
They got incredibly valuable information on both topics.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (Sf2cq)
Honest answer? I think it was all part of the op, to find out how Americans would react, and additionally, to figure out what the "kinks" might be with gene therapy.
They got incredibly valuable information on both topics.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:02 PM (dGCAG)
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>> There can be no forgiveness, there can be no moving forward, there can be none of it until the perpetrators are all punished. Severely.
Exactly. I’m nowhere close to forgiving or forgetting.
Nuremberg 2.0 trials.
Exactly. I’m nowhere close to forgiving or forgetting.
Nuremberg 2.0 trials.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:02 PM (l3YAf)
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Not sure they get it, the damage they've done to "expertise". The lives they destroyed. Its not just evil, which it for sure is, its dumb. It's the opposite of expertise. Its dumb midwittery
Posted by: YOHAN THE LIBRARIAN at February 18, 2025 02:03 PM (3TalN)
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39 I’m just spitballing here but perhaps 99% of people will be fine should be a clue that society shouldn’t be shutdown for some virus going around.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 18, 2025 01:55 PM (H9ZTk)
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Well, the operative word of the rest of the sentence was the word "comply".
Which is what they really wanted, especially since it helped to get rid of the Mean Tweets from Bad Orange Man.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 18, 2025 01:55 PM (H9ZTk)
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Well, the operative word of the rest of the sentence was the word "comply".
Which is what they really wanted, especially since it helped to get rid of the Mean Tweets from Bad Orange Man.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at February 18, 2025 02:03 PM (6ydKt)
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She needs a sharp lesson
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
She needs a soft lesson. Like a 50 ft silk rope.
And a 65 ft drop.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
She needs a soft lesson. Like a 50 ft silk rope.
And a 65 ft drop.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:03 PM (jfdO+)
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INTC up 11% on news of impending asteroid strike.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025 02:03 PM (5xgzq)
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Deborah Brix --- the modern-day Bitch of Buchenwald
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 02:03 PM (fPmw+)
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"When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult [to get people to comply]."
_____________
Because compliance was the goal. Not safety.
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Because compliance was the goal. Not safety.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:04 PM (ItAg0)
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Why do documented crimes against humanity and democrat line up perfectly, ALWAYS?
Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at February 18, 2025 02:05 PM (gxokI)
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We need show trials.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (rJ48h)
Would the dancers in skimpy swimsuits doing jazz hands be behind the judge or the defendant?
Posted by: mr tmz at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (rJ48h)
Would the dancers in skimpy swimsuits doing jazz hands be behind the judge or the defendant?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 02:05 PM (ExV1e)
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Exactly. I’m nowhere close to forgiving or forgetting.
Nuremberg 2.0 trials.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:02 PM (l3YAf)
I'm sorry I missed where any of these operators even *asked* for forgiveness or have admitted any real wrongdoing? Even the ones that have said they lied have always said it was for a good reason.
So I think the question of how close any of us are to forgiveness isn't even on the table. All I see is errr... "Fisticuffs"... at Dawn. And even that is a rather quaint way of saying "dark of night while sleeping".
Nuremberg 2.0 trials.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:02 PM (l3YAf)
I'm sorry I missed where any of these operators even *asked* for forgiveness or have admitted any real wrongdoing? Even the ones that have said they lied have always said it was for a good reason.
So I think the question of how close any of us are to forgiveness isn't even on the table. All I see is errr... "Fisticuffs"... at Dawn. And even that is a rather quaint way of saying "dark of night while sleeping".
Posted by: ... at February 18, 2025 02:05 PM (lX8VI)
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Yes, not just forcing the shots, but denying a known safe, effective, Nobel prize winning treatment Ivermectin, from the sick so that they could justify the shots.
Burn
In
Hell
B$&@
Burn
In
Hell
B$&@
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (Hkcdp)
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But she's the one who pumped out a ton of lies while claiming "we believe in The Science (TM)."
_______________
She wouldn't know science if it bit her on the ass.
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She wouldn't know science if it bit her on the ass.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (ItAg0)
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This is all a distraction from two things; EcoHealth made the virus using Moderna patented sequences and US funding, and those who made this knew EXACTLY what was going on in regards to it being loose as early as August 2019.. And the jabs do not contain the payload pharma told the regulators they contained.
The jabs are crammed full of a half dozen different cancer causing components packed into gene therapy delivery tech, AND are set up to integrate sequences allowing for mass CRISPR alterations.
The question many researchers are asking now is if the virus was made solely to justify the shots. You can't accidentally add this shit into the shots
The jabs are crammed full of a half dozen different cancer causing components packed into gene therapy delivery tech, AND are set up to integrate sequences allowing for mass CRISPR alterations.
The question many researchers are asking now is if the virus was made solely to justify the shots. You can't accidentally add this shit into the shots
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (Wgfgn)
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Wait a minute, wait just a minute, if the shots were no good for young people, and not good for middle aged people; Why were they good for old people?
(K'mere granny, this is killin' everybody else but it gonna' be good for you.) Really?
(K'mere granny, this is killin' everybody else but it gonna' be good for you.) Really?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (I7b3/)
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mention what the "vaccine" *was* designed for, or for that matter, why they called it a "vaccine"?
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Therapeutic. They were cancer therapies delivery systems trigger specific immune response to coded protein. Cancers don't mutate as fast as respiratory virus. As soon as the dominate strain mutated out, it doesn't work. About six mos. You can get an immune response from a booster that covers another six weeks or so. Then subsequent shots make you more likely to get sick.
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Therapeutic. They were cancer therapies delivery systems trigger specific immune response to coded protein. Cancers don't mutate as fast as respiratory virus. As soon as the dominate strain mutated out, it doesn't work. About six mos. You can get an immune response from a booster that covers another six weeks or so. Then subsequent shots make you more likely to get sick.
Posted by: Self licking cones at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (JsT2K)
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So when do they vote for Patel ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (VE6XX)
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48 This was all about control and the 2020 election....
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (VE6XX)
Just like ubama care act was never about health care.
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (VE6XX)
Just like ubama care act was never about health care.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (jgmnb)
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Trump had a Hospital Ship I believe in NY Harbor plus built temp hospitals in NY.
Como still put people infected with Covid in inot senior facilities!
Hospital Ship in NY 2020 empty
https://tinyurl.com/233cmdaj
Como still put people infected with Covid in inot senior facilities!
Hospital Ship in NY 2020 empty
https://tinyurl.com/233cmdaj
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (w4nzS)
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We need show trials.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (rJ48h)
Would the dancers in skimpy swimsuits doing jazz hands be behind the judge or the defendant?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 02:05 PM (ExV1e)
Either, but we should have round card girls like in boxing or UFC. No tats. Keep it classy.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (rJ48h)
Would the dancers in skimpy swimsuits doing jazz hands be behind the judge or the defendant?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 02:05 PM (ExV1e)
Either, but we should have round card girls like in boxing or UFC. No tats. Keep it classy.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (i24o9)
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This will keep on happening until there is an extreme and rigorously enforced taboo against experimenting on people like this.
And that's going to require more than just a brief news segment.
And that's going to require more than just a brief news segment.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (PzXaK)
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Tie her prone to a cannon in the town square and beat the soles of her feet with steel cable.
Posted by: Comprehensible RAF Banter at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (7Q0e+)
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Since they weren't, why were they given?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (jfdO+)
They’re still claiming getting vaccinated made the illness less severe and kept some people out of the hospital.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (jfdO+)
They’re still claiming getting vaccinated made the illness less severe and kept some people out of the hospital.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (l3YAf)
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Make Nuremberg Trials Great Again!
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (nM2VH)
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@ 18; but remember, we are just in Month One of 208 ... and there are only 24 hours in a day.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (KaBJL)
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I wonder how many of the chickens that government agencies keep killing would have been "fine".
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (Sf2cq)
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When 99% of us are going to be fine, they no longer count flu deaths.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid questions if McConnell survived after having polio at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (TLtxo)
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Outlaw all C19 mRNA “vaccines.”
Posted by: 13times at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (/Bbf2)
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Trump didn't fire her. You can make all the rationalizations you want, but he was President, and these were his advisors.
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The left would have loved if he'd done that--would have handed them even more power.
It's too easy now to say "Trump should've ...."
But go back and recall the absolute outrage and hysteria when Trump merely proposed "I hope we can re-open by Easter."
It ain't a rationalization, it's reality.
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The left would have loved if he'd done that--would have handed them even more power.
It's too easy now to say "Trump should've ...."
But go back and recall the absolute outrage and hysteria when Trump merely proposed "I hope we can re-open by Easter."
It ain't a rationalization, it's reality.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (fPmw+)
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The mRNA shots were not designed to trigger an immune reaction. The theory is that they are supposed to "teach" other cells to fight the symptoms, m standing for messenger. Basically a high end therapeutic
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (KXtU1)
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Hell+Birx, some assembly required.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (mB6WH)
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Wut? I thought that the "m" stood for "modified," not "messenger," as I had first thought.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (ItAg0)
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mRNA
Cellular biology is mind blowing. Think of a city of a million people and you get the complexity of a cell’s operations.
Scientists have found out a lot but messing with the basic instructions should be illegal.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (ItAg0)
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mRNA
Cellular biology is mind blowing. Think of a city of a million people and you get the complexity of a cell’s operations.
Scientists have found out a lot but messing with the basic instructions should be illegal.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (H9ZTk)
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"I've tested positive for COVID but am thankful for having had the vaccine otherwise it would be much worse."
Remember that shit? Wording was always the same.
Remember that shit? Wording was always the same.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (PzXaK)
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One shoe that has yet to drop --
Religious exception is one of those things that is bullet proof. This was all litigated in past with Vietnam war conscientious objector status. You just have to claim it is against your religion (or conscience) and that is that. You don't have to prove what your religion is, or that that religion holds the vaccine to be forbidden. (For some things, like peyote use, the bar is a bit higher.)
This was all litigated the protection absolute. Like the seal of confession, once asserted the US laws lose all power to compel.
So why was that not made more public? Why was there no discussion on news or internet that these companies that fired people were setting themselves up for civil rights lawsuits? I think there had to have been a conspiracy among media, bar, politicians, etc. to suppress this knowledge. Like jury nullification it became a forbidden knowledge and I have to wonder if the usual suspects were behind it.
Religious exception is one of those things that is bullet proof. This was all litigated in past with Vietnam war conscientious objector status. You just have to claim it is against your religion (or conscience) and that is that. You don't have to prove what your religion is, or that that religion holds the vaccine to be forbidden. (For some things, like peyote use, the bar is a bit higher.)
This was all litigated the protection absolute. Like the seal of confession, once asserted the US laws lose all power to compel.
So why was that not made more public? Why was there no discussion on news or internet that these companies that fired people were setting themselves up for civil rights lawsuits? I think there had to have been a conspiracy among media, bar, politicians, etc. to suppress this knowledge. Like jury nullification it became a forbidden knowledge and I have to wonder if the usual suspects were behind it.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (baIR6)
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Since so many of this so-called "work force" here were already brainwashed, resistance was probably small
I think the published numbers on people that took the clot shot were intentionally falsified. Why?
Boston's current lunatic mayor was elected during COVIDmania. Because a good little leftist she put in a ban on eating in restaurants in Boston if you weren't clot shotted. The published data at that point said that 90% of Bostonians and 80% of Massholes were clot shotted.
The Boston restaurant business association told her privately, then went public, saying this would bankrupt them in short order. Then she had an "ask me anything" where only Bostonians could join and every question was when was she going to get rid of the mandate or demanding she resign.
She then immediately rescinded the policy. Now...if those published numbers were correct and these people were losing 10-20% of their customers nominally in return for being safe from COVID would any of this have happened? Of course not. Now imagine the real numbers are half of what the CDC published...makes sense suddenly doesn't it?
I think the published numbers on people that took the clot shot were intentionally falsified. Why?
Boston's current lunatic mayor was elected during COVIDmania. Because a good little leftist she put in a ban on eating in restaurants in Boston if you weren't clot shotted. The published data at that point said that 90% of Bostonians and 80% of Massholes were clot shotted.
The Boston restaurant business association told her privately, then went public, saying this would bankrupt them in short order. Then she had an "ask me anything" where only Bostonians could join and every question was when was she going to get rid of the mandate or demanding she resign.
She then immediately rescinded the policy. Now...if those published numbers were correct and these people were losing 10-20% of their customers nominally in return for being safe from COVID would any of this have happened? Of course not. Now imagine the real numbers are half of what the CDC published...makes sense suddenly doesn't it?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (t0Rmr)
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Either, but we should have round card girls like in boxing or UFC. No tats. Keep it classy.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (i24o9)
*Sydney Thomas has entered the chat*
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (i24o9)
*Sydney Thomas has entered the chat*
Posted by: BruceWayne at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (MGB5H)
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And why did they so desperately want compliance?
Because it clobbered the Trump economy, which was booming, and provided an excuse for mail-in ballots, i.e., wholesale electoral fraud.
Because it clobbered the Trump economy, which was booming, and provided an excuse for mail-in ballots, i.e., wholesale electoral fraud.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (ItAg0)
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She needs a soft lesson. Like a 50 ft silk rope.
And a 65 ft drop.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025
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That'd rip her head right . . .
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. . . I forgot what my objection was. Please proceed.
And a 65 ft drop.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025
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That'd rip her head right . . .
. . .
. . . I forgot what my objection was. Please proceed.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (J2vNu)
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Trump needs to have NIH/CDC return the definition of vaccine to its original meaning ASAP.
Posted by: Ciampino - stop changing the meaning of terms at February 18, 2025 02:09 PM (KjLnc)
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INTC up 11% on news of impending asteroid strike and possible buyout by Broadcom and TSMC, but mostly the possible buyout by Broadcom and TSMC.
FIFY
FIFY
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 02:09 PM (xCA6C)
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They were cancer therapies delivery systems trigger specific immune response to coded protein. Cancers don't mutate as fast as respiratory virus. As soon as the dominate strain mutated out, it doesn't work. About six mos. You can get an immune response from a booster that covers another six weeks or so. Then subsequent shots make you more likely to get sick.
Posted by: Self licking cones at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (JsT2K)
That's what the non-consensual science experiment was about.
Recall Biden early in his campaign inexplicably claiming he would cure cancer (same sort of admission as his biggest voter fraud operation in history)?
Someone put a bug in his ear about the COVID mRNA shots and he spilled the beans is my guess.
Posted by: Self licking cones at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (JsT2K)
That's what the non-consensual science experiment was about.
Recall Biden early in his campaign inexplicably claiming he would cure cancer (same sort of admission as his biggest voter fraud operation in history)?
Someone put a bug in his ear about the COVID mRNA shots and he spilled the beans is my guess.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:09 PM (i24o9)
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- Globull warming, Trust the Science!!
Covid crappola, Trust the Science!!
I once read, likely here, that 97% of scientists will agree with whoever is funding their research.
Now, think of other areas where 97% of scientists agree. When you think of one, go take a good look at what the other 3% are saying.
Covid crappola, Trust the Science!!
I once read, likely here, that 97% of scientists will agree with whoever is funding their research.
Now, think of other areas where 97% of scientists agree. When you think of one, go take a good look at what the other 3% are saying.
Posted by: TeeJ at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (ItCQP)
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The "cure" was worse than the disease
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (VE6XX)
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93 to 99, inclusive
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (KaBJL)
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If the "vaccine" was not designed to prevent infection, why even give it to at-risk people?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM
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The BS answer: because the shot will reduce the severity of COVID if you do get it.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM
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The BS answer: because the shot will reduce the severity of COVID if you do get it.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
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So, why are health officials denying transplants to children because they have not been vaccinated?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (bss/y)
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Architect of COVID Policy Deborah Birx Now Admits Covid "Vaccines" Not Only Did Not Prevent Infections, But Were Never Even Designed to Prevent Infections; Admits "Vaccine" Only Should Have Been Given to Older/High-Risk People]/b]
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Wait an effing minute. If it didn't prevent infections, why give it to anybody, including older/high-risk people?
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Wait an effing minute. If it didn't prevent infections, why give it to anybody, including older/high-risk people?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (ItAg0)
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123 The left would have loved if he'd done that--would have handed them even more power.
It's too easy now to say "Trump should've ...."
But go back and recall the absolute outrage and hysteria when Trump merely proposed "I hope we can re-open by Easter."
It ain't a rationalization, it's reality.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (fPmw+)
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Trump failed.
Pretty much everyone failed.
Some failed harder and more intentionally than others, but the number of prominent government officials in office from 2020-2021 who didn't fail I can count on roughly one hand. And I'd have to get most of those from Wikipedia for the Swedish government names.
COVID was the single largest governance failure in world history with many points and faults.
It's too easy now to say "Trump should've ...."
But go back and recall the absolute outrage and hysteria when Trump merely proposed "I hope we can re-open by Easter."
It ain't a rationalization, it's reality.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (fPmw+)
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Trump failed.
Pretty much everyone failed.
Some failed harder and more intentionally than others, but the number of prominent government officials in office from 2020-2021 who didn't fail I can count on roughly one hand. And I'd have to get most of those from Wikipedia for the Swedish government names.
COVID was the single largest governance failure in world history with many points and faults.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (GBKbO)
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Those fucking ER Staff Dance Videos.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (PzXaK)
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Marx is in hell kicking himself for not coming up with "essential worker" sooner.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 01:56 PM (PzXaK)
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Marx is in hell kicking himself for not coming up with "essential worker" sooner.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (z/ifB)
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"I've tested positive for COVID but am thankful for having had the vaccine otherwise it would be much worse."
The ones I always remembered were more like
"Joe Smith passed away from COVID today. His daughter Jill tells us she is happy he had gotten his shot because otherwise it would have been much worse"
The ones I always remembered were more like
"Joe Smith passed away from COVID today. His daughter Jill tells us she is happy he had gotten his shot because otherwise it would have been much worse"
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (t0Rmr)
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This was all about control and the 2020 election....
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I'm more and more at peace with these people, along with Obama, saving the republic.
Without these actions, the stolen elections, the political prisoners, etc we would have just continued to sleep walk towards 2030 and global rule, all while the Rs continued to pretend they were opposition.
This was God giving us a chance.
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I'm more and more at peace with these people, along with Obama, saving the republic.
Without these actions, the stolen elections, the political prisoners, etc we would have just continued to sleep walk towards 2030 and global rule, all while the Rs continued to pretend they were opposition.
This was God giving us a chance.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid questions if McConnell survived after having polio at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (TLtxo)
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A few things to remember about gene therapy:
1. They thought it would stay in the arm (it didn't)
2. They didn't think it would cross the blood/brain barrier (it did)
3. They didn't think it would cause tissue damage anywhere else except maybe non-lethal muscle (oops!)
Gene therapy has the potential to be a revolutionary tool in curing diseases, but they used it on the American people. They called it a vaccine.
This would be like Elon Musk sending rockets up to the sky, knowing they might explode (which they usually do), but thinking it was ok to send the entire population of the country up there to find out.
1. They thought it would stay in the arm (it didn't)
2. They didn't think it would cross the blood/brain barrier (it did)
3. They didn't think it would cause tissue damage anywhere else except maybe non-lethal muscle (oops!)
Gene therapy has the potential to be a revolutionary tool in curing diseases, but they used it on the American people. They called it a vaccine.
This would be like Elon Musk sending rockets up to the sky, knowing they might explode (which they usually do), but thinking it was ok to send the entire population of the country up there to find out.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (dGCAG)
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Damn them all to hell. Nice that some of these scumbags were not pardoned.
Posted by: Joe at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (Uy/WF)
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Donna tomorrow maybe, but then maybe a few more days of questioning to vote party lines anyway
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 02:11 PM (fwDg9)
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Wut? I thought that the "m" stood for "modified," not "messenger," as I had first thought.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (ItAg0)
Nope, messenger.
https://is.gd/yzXM90
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:01 PM (ItAg0)
Nope, messenger.
https://is.gd/yzXM90
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 02:11 PM (xCA6C)
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The BS answer: because the shot will reduce the severity of COVID if you do get it.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
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And they knew this... how? Evidence? Wishful thinking?
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
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And they knew this... how? Evidence? Wishful thinking?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:11 PM (ItAg0)
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The BS answer: because the shot will reduce the severity of COVID if you do get it.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
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It's the "jobs created or saved" of vaccines.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
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It's the "jobs created or saved" of vaccines.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 18, 2025 02:11 PM (z/ifB)
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Look at that TYT bitch on the far right nodding her head in approval of what is being said. She was right there with the rest of the clan of "The Science" pushing the jab and censoring Drs and physicians that were questioning how COVID was being handled.
Posted by: ryukyu at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (AM33D)
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148 Donna tomorrow maybe, but then maybe a few more days of questioning to vote party lines anyway
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 02:11 PM (fwDg9)
Thanks
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 02:11 PM (fwDg9)
Thanks
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (et1vG)
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Where was Pence in all of this? That MFer had to be aware of all of this.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (3Ope8)
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I still wonder if the chinese were trying to tailor this enhanced virus in order to help their demographics.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (lTGtQ)
Of course they were! They give even less fcuks about their people than big deepstate gives about Americans. If such a thing is possible.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (lTGtQ)
Of course they were! They give even less fcuks about their people than big deepstate gives about Americans. If such a thing is possible.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (jgmnb)
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COVID was the single largest governance failure in world history with many points and faults.
I saw today Trump fired some NIH people, and of course they are all crying it is unfair and taking away from their necessary work to protect people from disease.
Well you assholes at the NIH just oversaw the greatest public health failure in history. You should be fired and prosecuted. For capital crimes.
I saw today Trump fired some NIH people, and of course they are all crying it is unfair and taking away from their necessary work to protect people from disease.
Well you assholes at the NIH just oversaw the greatest public health failure in history. You should be fired and prosecuted. For capital crimes.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (t0Rmr)
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Come on... Flounder, you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes. You f*d up! You trusted us!
Posted by: Otter (Bitblt) at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (a6Ysq)
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I'm still waiting for the lights to come on for people who have had Covid four or five times and are still getting their Covid shots every year.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (Sf2cq)
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157 I saw today Trump fired some NIH people, and of course they are all crying it is unfair and taking away from their necessary work to protect people from disease.
Well you assholes at the NIH just oversaw the greatest public health failure in history. You should be fired and prosecuted. For capital crimes.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (t0Rmr)
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"Our performance during covid was great."
-it's a take
Well you assholes at the NIH just oversaw the greatest public health failure in history. You should be fired and prosecuted. For capital crimes.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (t0Rmr)
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"Our performance during covid was great."
-it's a take
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Where was Pence in all of this? That MFer had to be aware of all of this.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (3Ope
He's the one that told birx to ignore Trump.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (3Ope
He's the one that told birx to ignore Trump.
Posted by: BruceWayne at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (MGB5H)
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If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. Up your ass.
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (QSrLX)
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Ellen Page will be cast as one of the Sirens, luring men to certain death with the opening riff of Stairway to Heaven.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (w9Wax)
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The control aspect and most lockdown stuff was a distraction for non-lefties to complain about - though they did milk the censorship as much as they could for the 2020 election
One stolen election doesn't matter much vs tens of millions of dead and rising. MSM won't touch it but death rates are skyrocketing. They are almost double historical norms in some age groups and keep rising. Look at the long term disability rates also - we are adding nearly a million working age adults to the ranks of the permanently disabled per year above historical rates, now.
One stolen election doesn't matter much vs tens of millions of dead and rising. MSM won't touch it but death rates are skyrocketing. They are almost double historical norms in some age groups and keep rising. Look at the long term disability rates also - we are adding nearly a million working age adults to the ranks of the permanently disabled per year above historical rates, now.
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (Wgfgn)
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Trump failed.
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No, he didn't. First, he wasn't a physician, much less a virologist. He was in no position to dispute people who putatively knew what they were talking about.
Second, if he'd gone against the "experts," he'd have been crucified in the media, who would have delighted in the "grim milestone" BS for everyone who died, even if they'd been hit by a truck.
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No, he didn't. First, he wasn't a physician, much less a virologist. He was in no position to dispute people who putatively knew what they were talking about.
Second, if he'd gone against the "experts," he'd have been crucified in the media, who would have delighted in the "grim milestone" BS for everyone who died, even if they'd been hit by a truck.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (ItAg0)
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163 Ellen Page will be cast as one of the Sirens, luring men to certain death with the opening riff of Stairway to Heaven.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (w9Wax)
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She was cast with like 3 days left until shooting.
It'll be a small part most likely.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (w9Wax)
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She was cast with like 3 days left until shooting.
It'll be a small part most likely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)
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The BS answer: because the shot will reduce the severity of COVID if you do get it.
The data Pfizer/Moderna published claimed it would stop the spread of COVID. That was the legal basis for everything Biden did.
They falsified the data.
The "it will reduce the severity" claims came out a year or so later when it had already become very, very clear the clot shot didn't stop the spread as claimed
The data Pfizer/Moderna published claimed it would stop the spread of COVID. That was the legal basis for everything Biden did.
They falsified the data.
The "it will reduce the severity" claims came out a year or so later when it had already become very, very clear the clot shot didn't stop the spread as claimed
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (t0Rmr)
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A few things to remember about gene therapy:
1. They thought it would stay in the arm (it didn't)
2. They didn't think it would cross the blood/brain barrier (it did)
3. They didn't think it would cause tissue damage anywhere else except maybe non-lethal muscle (oops!)
Gene therapy has the potential to be a revolutionary tool in curing diseases, but they used it on the American people. They called it a vaccine.
This would be like Elon Musk sending rockets up to the sky, knowing they might explode (which they usually do), but thinking it was ok to send the entire population of the country up there to find out.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (dGCAG)
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A "free" worldwide clinical trial of experimental bioweapons .. that prematurely induced all manner of illnesses and premature deaths in who knows how many millions?
1. They thought it would stay in the arm (it didn't)
2. They didn't think it would cross the blood/brain barrier (it did)
3. They didn't think it would cause tissue damage anywhere else except maybe non-lethal muscle (oops!)
Gene therapy has the potential to be a revolutionary tool in curing diseases, but they used it on the American people. They called it a vaccine.
This would be like Elon Musk sending rockets up to the sky, knowing they might explode (which they usually do), but thinking it was ok to send the entire population of the country up there to find out.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (dGCAG)
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A "free" worldwide clinical trial of experimental bioweapons .. that prematurely induced all manner of illnesses and premature deaths in who knows how many millions?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (caDOG)
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She was cast with like 3 days left until shooting.
It'll be a small part most likely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)
Mia goth was just announced the other day.
It'll be a small part most likely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)
Mia goth was just announced the other day.
Posted by: BruceWayne at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (MGB5H)
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166 163 Ellen Page will be cast as one of the Sirens, luring men to certain death with the opening riff of Stairway to Heaven.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (w9Wax)
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She was cast with like 3 days left until shooting.
It'll be a small part most likely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025
Isn't she a "he" now ?
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (w9Wax)
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She was cast with like 3 days left until shooting.
It'll be a small part most likely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025
Isn't she a "he" now ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (VE6XX)
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>> They were cancer therapies delivery systems trigger specific immune response to coded protein.
But they were never approved for cancer because of safety concerns.
>> As soon as the dominate strain mutated out, it doesn't work.
It’s not just that, though. Coronaviruses have shown themselves to be very good at “breakthrough” infection, even when people are vaccinated against that variant. It’s one of the reasons I doubted a covid vaccine would work from the get-go.
But they were never approved for cancer because of safety concerns.
>> As soon as the dominate strain mutated out, it doesn't work.
It’s not just that, though. Coronaviruses have shown themselves to be very good at “breakthrough” infection, even when people are vaccinated against that variant. It’s one of the reasons I doubted a covid vaccine would work from the get-go.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:15 PM (l3YAf)
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mRNA was a thing before Chinese Lung AIDS.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:15 PM (bss/y)
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Well you assholes at the NIH just oversaw the greatest public health failure in history. You should be fired and prosecuted. For capital crimes.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (t0Rmr)
__________________
And ... YOU FUNDED THE SOURCE OF THE DISEASE.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (t0Rmr)
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And ... YOU FUNDED THE SOURCE OF THE DISEASE.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:15 PM (ItAg0)
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Cellular biology is mind blowing. Think of a city of a million people and you get the complexity of a cell’s operations.
Scientists have found out a lot but messing with the basic instructions should be illegal.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
Pretty much same-same.
Think of a city of a million people and you get the complexity of a cell’s operations.
Scientists have found out a lot but intentionally clogging the sewers with shit should be illegal.
Scientists have found out a lot but messing with the basic instructions should be illegal.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
Pretty much same-same.
Think of a city of a million people and you get the complexity of a cell’s operations.
Scientists have found out a lot but intentionally clogging the sewers with shit should be illegal.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (jfdO+)
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I'm still waiting for the lights to come on for people who have had Covid four or five times and are still getting their Covid shots every year.
I work with a bunch of these types. They bragged and bragged about the initial double tap and the first couple of boosters and sure as shit a few weeks after bragging they'd be out for COVID for a week and this repeated once or twice a year every year.
I work with a bunch of these types. They bragged and bragged about the initial double tap and the first couple of boosters and sure as shit a few weeks after bragging they'd be out for COVID for a week and this repeated once or twice a year every year.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (t0Rmr)
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Wait an effing minute. If it didn't prevent infections, why give it to anybody, including older/high-risk people?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (ItAg0)
As I understand, the trad vaccines never did either. It just trained your immune system to ID the virus and destroy it before it had a chance to take hold in your system.
They . . . get this . . . lied.
The other problem was that the mRNA was unproven, and what trials had been done had questionable to disastrous results, which they knew, and launched an entire censorship regime to keep people from discovering real medical information and opinion that was contrary to their plans.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (ItAg0)
As I understand, the trad vaccines never did either. It just trained your immune system to ID the virus and destroy it before it had a chance to take hold in your system.
They . . . get this . . . lied.
The other problem was that the mRNA was unproven, and what trials had been done had questionable to disastrous results, which they knew, and launched an entire censorship regime to keep people from discovering real medical information and opinion that was contrary to their plans.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (i24o9)
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Even reliable conservatives who had spent a long time watching DC politics were saying Birx was an apolitical straight shooter.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (Odg76)
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Sean Hannity at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (lHPJf)
The squirrels in DC are political. Nobody should ever imagine that someone taking government money is apolitical.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 18, 2025 01:49 PM (Odg76)
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Sean Hannity at February 18, 2025 01:51 PM (lHPJf)
The squirrels in DC are political. Nobody should ever imagine that someone taking government money is apolitical.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (n7h9X)
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One of the (many) regrets of my life is after coming down with and recovering from (mild) Covid in January of '21, I still went like a good little boy and got the shot as soon as it became available in April of '21, because it looked like the company (large defense contractor in Ca) was gonna require it.
In a sure sign, besides test results, that I did indeed have Covid that January, I reacted to the first shot in the way they said people would react to the second shot (fever, chills, generally felt awful for a day).
In a sure sign, besides test results, that I did indeed have Covid that January, I reacted to the first shot in the way they said people would react to the second shot (fever, chills, generally felt awful for a day).
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (QGaXH)
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" I still wonder if the chinese were trying to tailor this enhanced virus in order to help their demographics.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (lTGtQ)"
China was the patsy here. It's clear now EcoHealth was the vehicle to make this and blame the Chinese, who partook out of simple greed for dual use biotech.
It explains all of the known Chinese responses and aligns with the obvious ill intent behind the vax design
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:00 PM (lTGtQ)"
China was the patsy here. It's clear now EcoHealth was the vehicle to make this and blame the Chinese, who partook out of simple greed for dual use biotech.
It explains all of the known Chinese responses and aligns with the obvious ill intent behind the vax design
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (Wgfgn)
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165 Trump failed.
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No, he didn't. First, he wasn't a physician, much less a virologist. He was in no position to dispute people who putatively knew what they were talking about.
Second, if he'd gone against the "experts," he'd have been crucified in the media, who would have delighted in the "grim milestone" BS for everyone who died, even if they'd been hit by a truck.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (ItAg0)
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Trump helped the government infringe on the rights of nearly every American by not exerting control over the executive branch.
Inalienable rights > public safety, no matter the unforeseen danger.
His oath of office was to preserve our rights and the Constitution. He allowed our rights and our Constitutional to get trammeled. There is no "emergency plague" clause that allows for unfettered governmental power by bureaucrats. It should be remembered, that the American Revolution was fought during a smallpox epidemic.
It's obvious that he learned his lesson since. But he still failed.
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No, he didn't. First, he wasn't a physician, much less a virologist. He was in no position to dispute people who putatively knew what they were talking about.
Second, if he'd gone against the "experts," he'd have been crucified in the media, who would have delighted in the "grim milestone" BS for everyone who died, even if they'd been hit by a truck.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (ItAg0)
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Trump helped the government infringe on the rights of nearly every American by not exerting control over the executive branch.
Inalienable rights > public safety, no matter the unforeseen danger.
His oath of office was to preserve our rights and the Constitution. He allowed our rights and our Constitutional to get trammeled. There is no "emergency plague" clause that allows for unfettered governmental power by bureaucrats. It should be remembered, that the American Revolution was fought during a smallpox epidemic.
It's obvious that he learned his lesson since. But he still failed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
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In a proper society, these people would already be in prison.
What they did to a generation of young people brings me to a level of anger that is really not healthy.
What they did to a generation of young people brings me to a level of anger that is really not healthy.
Posted by: DaisyB at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (AbL8c)
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Trump was going by what he was told by people considered experts.
I don't blame Trump for COVID.
That blame falls squarely on Fauci, the Chinese, and whoever helped make the virus.
And the people who came along trying to force everybody on the planet to get "vaccinated" against a rapidly mutating respiratory virus with an unproven technology that proved to be practically useless.
Trump did his best under the circumstances.
We all know what was going on then.
He was as mind-blown and trapped as the rest of us in 2020.
I don't blame Trump for COVID.
That blame falls squarely on Fauci, the Chinese, and whoever helped make the virus.
And the people who came along trying to force everybody on the planet to get "vaccinated" against a rapidly mutating respiratory virus with an unproven technology that proved to be practically useless.
Trump did his best under the circumstances.
We all know what was going on then.
He was as mind-blown and trapped as the rest of us in 2020.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (Pv3Rg)
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I'm not a big fan of Bobby Kennedy. I think he's a little kooky, and falls into the Euell Gibbons category of thinking it's a good idea to eat a pine tree.
That being said, he's dead on right about how corporations (especially pharmaceutical) have bastardized medicine to put profit above the purpose of the medication. Think about what is being said here. THEY DESIGNED IT for severe risk patients, and, yet, they marketed it through governments (who had the power to mandate) to assure a much larger consumer group. Kennedy is right about this. It needs to change on a fundamental level.
That being said, he's dead on right about how corporations (especially pharmaceutical) have bastardized medicine to put profit above the purpose of the medication. Think about what is being said here. THEY DESIGNED IT for severe risk patients, and, yet, they marketed it through governments (who had the power to mandate) to assure a much larger consumer group. Kennedy is right about this. It needs to change on a fundamental level.
Posted by: Orson at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (dIske)
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Firing them is nice, but not good enough.
They will get hired elsewhere in Pharma-Medical complex and do more damage since they'll be out of the public eye.
In this point of my life, after having battled internal demons that I've never imagined I would, I very much hesitate wishing death on anyone. I balk even now. But allowing those responsible to continue on with little to no disruption to their lives or those of their families is intolerable.
Punish enough so it is unrecoverable.
They will get hired elsewhere in Pharma-Medical complex and do more damage since they'll be out of the public eye.
In this point of my life, after having battled internal demons that I've never imagined I would, I very much hesitate wishing death on anyone. I balk even now. But allowing those responsible to continue on with little to no disruption to their lives or those of their families is intolerable.
Punish enough so it is unrecoverable.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (PzXaK)
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109 Wait a minute, wait just a minute, if the shots were no good for young people, and not good for middle aged people; Why were they good for old people?
(K'mere granny, this is killin' everybody else but it gonna' be good for you.) Really?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (I7b3/)
Best faith theory...they needed an immune system that is suppressed enough to not overreact. Old people have a weaker immune system, as do highly sick people, so they would possibly receive the intended benefit of the shot without experiencing the largely unwanted side effects - cost/benefit was better for them...
It's why the Shingles Vax has to be saved for those 50+...
(K'mere granny, this is killin' everybody else but it gonna' be good for you.) Really?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (I7b3/)
Best faith theory...they needed an immune system that is suppressed enough to not overreact. Old people have a weaker immune system, as do highly sick people, so they would possibly receive the intended benefit of the shot without experiencing the largely unwanted side effects - cost/benefit was better for them...
It's why the Shingles Vax has to be saved for those 50+...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (exHjb)
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Well you assholes at the NIH just oversaw the greatest public health failure in history. You should be fired and prosecuted. For capital crimes.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (t0Rmr)
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And ... YOU FUNDED THE SOURCE OF THE DISEASE.
This is supposed to be an 'appy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo funded 'oo.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:12 PM (t0Rmr)
__________________
And ... YOU FUNDED THE SOURCE OF THE DISEASE.
This is supposed to be an 'appy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo funded 'oo.
Posted by: Assholes at the NIH at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (xCA6C)
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169 Mia goth was just announced the other day.
Posted by: BruceWayne at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (MGB5H)
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Yeah, that was also a last second addition, but apparently talks had been going on for a few weeks.
Posted by: BruceWayne at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (MGB5H)
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Yeah, that was also a last second addition, but apparently talks had been going on for a few weeks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (GBKbO)
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I wonder what the purpose of the mass infection was. Originally, I'm sure they thought they could control large masses of people while killing off the weaker ones. But the USA proved more difficult to control than they anticipated. A large group caved to the pressure of the "science" and a lot were just lazy. Luckily for us, enough people were questioning this lie, so they couldn't keep it going as long as they would have liked. But what was the end goal of this program?
Posted by: megthered at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (J9ZRC)
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170 Isn't she a "he" now ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (VE6XX)
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Chromosomes say she.
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (VE6XX)
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Chromosomes say she.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (GBKbO)
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AKA The Scarf Lady Lied.
Posted by: Shoofly the Boxing Mule at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (ufJfM)
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The data Pfizer/Moderna published claimed it would stop the spread of COVID. That was the legal basis for everything Biden did.
They falsified the data.
The "it will reduce the severity" claims came out a year or so later when it had already become very, very clear the clot shot didn't stop the spread as claimed
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (t0Rmr)
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Where is the NIH's Office of Scientific Integrity, which was founded to address precisely this problem in other research?
They falsified the data.
The "it will reduce the severity" claims came out a year or so later when it had already become very, very clear the clot shot didn't stop the spread as claimed
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (t0Rmr)
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Where is the NIH's Office of Scientific Integrity, which was founded to address precisely this problem in other research?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (ItAg0)
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No, he didn't. First, he wasn't a physician, much less a virologist. He was in no position to dispute people who putatively knew what they were talking about.
Second, if he'd gone against the "experts," he'd have been crucified in the media, who would have delighted in the "grim milestone" BS for everyone who died, even if they'd been hit by a truck.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Based on the reaction when it first showed up, I believe that they thought it was a bioweapon that got loose.
Second, if he'd gone against the "experts," he'd have been crucified in the media, who would have delighted in the "grim milestone" BS for everyone who died, even if they'd been hit by a truck.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Based on the reaction when it first showed up, I believe that they thought it was a bioweapon that got loose.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)
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> "When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult [to get people to comply]."
- Deborah Birx, Trump's lockdown architect
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It was always about compliance. It was a test. The government wanted to see just how far they could push the public with draconian mandates and who'd push back.
Anything remotely about "health" was another matter altogether.
- Deborah Birx, Trump's lockdown architect
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It was always about compliance. It was a test. The government wanted to see just how far they could push the public with draconian mandates and who'd push back.
Anything remotely about "health" was another matter altogether.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (Q4IgG)
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I didn't lie about the non-vaccines. Why am I part of the "we" that must do better, and must tell the truth about what the science actually is instead of corrupting it into yet another Democrat Party moral blackmail propaganda point? - Ace
This rhetorical tactic started showing up in the pie holes of the Left when it started to penetrate their thick skulls that their all-in assault on anybody that disagreed with them was failing.
That standard move here is, "WE might have gone over the line a bit with US demonizing YOU for breathing air but now that WE have agreed to get along YOU need to atone by meeting US halfway."
Um, no.
This rhetorical tactic started showing up in the pie holes of the Left when it started to penetrate their thick skulls that their all-in assault on anybody that disagreed with them was failing.
That standard move here is, "WE might have gone over the line a bit with US demonizing YOU for breathing air but now that WE have agreed to get along YOU need to atone by meeting US halfway."
Um, no.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (Q8Bj8)
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And never forget Mike Thirty Pence of Silver was secretly meeting with Birx and Co and orchestrating what lies were being told to Trump and sharing everything Trump thought and wanted to do.
Posted by: ... at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lX8VI)
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In all seriousness, if you got the shot, be aggressive with cancer screening, becuase a lot who got it are, well, fucked
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (Wgfgn)
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It's funny, but I knew this was the case from the start. They were lying and they knew it was wrong but they did it anyway. I'm just surprised that so many otherwise intelligent people fell for it. It was a government experiment in controlling the behavior of the populace through fear.
Posted by: Angel at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (oiJGz)
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183 Jesus Mary and Joseph
I want her head, scarf optional
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (Pv3Rg)
Nah, scarf. Could be used as a handy carrying handle.
I want her head, scarf optional
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (Pv3Rg)
Nah, scarf. Could be used as a handy carrying handle.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (bss/y)
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163 Ellen Page will be cast as one of the Sirens, luring men to certain death with the opening riff of Stairway to Heaven.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (w9Wax)
Luring them?? With what?
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (w9Wax)
Luring them?? With what?
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (lHPJf)
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159 I'm still waiting for the lights to come on for people who have had Covid four or five times and are still getting their Covid shots every year.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (Sf2cq)
This is GOD’s own truth whispered in Emmie’s ear. Preach it, sister!
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (Sf2cq)
This is GOD’s own truth whispered in Emmie’s ear. Preach it, sister!
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (jgmnb)
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It’s not just that, though. Coronaviruses have shown themselves to be very good at “breakthrough” infection, even when people are vaccinated against that variant. It’s one of the reasons I doubted a covid vaccine would work from the get-go.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:15 PM (l3YAf)
Coronaviruses, theretofore, were known as common cold viruses, and we did not, theretofore, vaccinate for common colds for a reason.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:15 PM (l3YAf)
Coronaviruses, theretofore, were known as common cold viruses, and we did not, theretofore, vaccinate for common colds for a reason.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (i24o9)
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Thanks for the 3 years of feeling like I'd lost my mind, Scarf Lady. Glad I held strong, even though everybody I knew was pressuring me into getting it. I knew I'd be vindicated eventually.
F*** you all and the white horse you rode in on.
F*** you all and the white horse you rode in on.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (ERYKL)
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The data Pfizer/Moderna published claimed it would stop the spread of COVID. That was the legal basis for everything Biden did.
They falsified the data.
The "it will reduce the severity" claims came out a year or so later when it had already become very, very clear the clot shot didn't stop the spread as claimed
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (t0Rmr)
Yes. It was what they were reduced to arguing to keep the emergency use authorizations active.
There was never a proper clinical trial done on the covid vaccines.
They falsified the data.
The "it will reduce the severity" claims came out a year or so later when it had already become very, very clear the clot shot didn't stop the spread as claimed
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (t0Rmr)
Yes. It was what they were reduced to arguing to keep the emergency use authorizations active.
There was never a proper clinical trial done on the covid vaccines.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (l3YAf)
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Texas Tech should fire her IMMEDIATELY and she should be charged, tried, convicted and hanged right along side Fauci.
She wrote a BOOK about how she lied and manipulated Trump to do what they wanted him to do.
Hang, bitch.
She wrote a BOOK about how she lied and manipulated Trump to do what they wanted him to do.
Hang, bitch.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)
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Trump listened to experts who unfortunately as we are now seeing, and many of us knew , are full of crap. Many including Fauci, Collins and Dascak were trying to cover up their deeds. Others were pushing the draconian rules for power. Trump on this as well as other issues was naive, in thinking that everyone was on the same page and that they were doing the best for the citizens.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (KXtU1)
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Birx fooled me.
My default position, now. is this: If you're a permanent resident of DC, you're automatically suspect.
If you're a permanent resident of DC and part of the political class, you're automatically guilty until proven otherwise.
My default position, now. is this: If you're a permanent resident of DC, you're automatically suspect.
If you're a permanent resident of DC and part of the political class, you're automatically guilty until proven otherwise.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (tT6L1)
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It was not a governance failure, it was an experiment, a meticulously planned and executed operation. There needs to be trials and transparency.
We pushed this toxic mess on the world - the US government made this virus and vaccine. This makes me want to vomit it’s so repulsive.
We pushed this toxic mess on the world - the US government made this virus and vaccine. This makes me want to vomit it’s so repulsive.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (Hkcdp)
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Well then prosecute her. Do it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (BI5O2)
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>>Trump helped the government infringe on the rights of nearly every American by not exerting control over the executive branch.
In a vacuum, sure.
But it was during a re-election campaign. You can't ignore that.
In a vacuum, sure.
But it was during a re-election campaign. You can't ignore that.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (oa1NA)
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198 In all seriousness, if you got the shot, be aggressive with cancer screening, becuase a lot who got it are, well, fucked
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (Wgfgn)
Which is another shitty irony if it was designed for cancer treatment.
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (Wgfgn)
Which is another shitty irony if it was designed for cancer treatment.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (bss/y)
213
Two Weeks.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (PzXaK)
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The BS answer: because the shot will reduce the severity of COVID if you do get it.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
I have not seen any evidence that the vaxxed had milder cases. They aren't comparing themselves to the unvaxxed; they are comparing themselves to how sick they imagine they could have been if they hadn't gotten jabbed.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
I have not seen any evidence that the vaxxed had milder cases. They aren't comparing themselves to the unvaxxed; they are comparing themselves to how sick they imagine they could have been if they hadn't gotten jabbed.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (Sf2cq)
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Golly, I guess we know now why the CDC changed the official definition of "Vaccine" in 2020 on their website and on all paperwork, from something that prevents disease transmission to something that helps the immune system fight disease.
I really do want to see the lamp posts of DC festooned with the corpses of the evil monsters who created Covid and destroyed our national health systems. And the scum who've stolen our country's wealth these last 50 years.
Hang 'em High!
I really do want to see the lamp posts of DC festooned with the corpses of the evil monsters who created Covid and destroyed our national health systems. And the scum who've stolen our country's wealth these last 50 years.
Hang 'em High!
Posted by: Sharkman at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (BRvvM)
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I still wonder if the chinese were trying to tailor this enhanced virus in order to help their demographics.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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From what I can tell, their plan was to have a vaccine ready before release. They had a vaccine before the "leak" so that part is obvious.
Possibly they thought they could sell the world on their totalitarian solution (social credit, lockdowns, etc.) and population control which they are the experts at.
So it appears their plan was to cripple the entire world and use that to step in with the "cure." Only their cure was useless and Big Pharma came stole the playbook and used it to steal trillions.
It could also hide massive genocide of their own undesirables and even entire populations in countries without effective defense that they wanted to take over, like Africa.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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From what I can tell, their plan was to have a vaccine ready before release. They had a vaccine before the "leak" so that part is obvious.
Possibly they thought they could sell the world on their totalitarian solution (social credit, lockdowns, etc.) and population control which they are the experts at.
So it appears their plan was to cripple the entire world and use that to step in with the "cure." Only their cure was useless and Big Pharma came stole the playbook and used it to steal trillions.
It could also hide massive genocide of their own undesirables and even entire populations in countries without effective defense that they wanted to take over, like Africa.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (baIR6)
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Most of the horde, let alone normies, have missed 3+ years of revelations about the wuflu, who made it, and the vax.
Gonna just sit here and watch people start to grok what has been done, which has been known in some cases for years.
Gonna just sit here and watch people start to grok what has been done, which has been known in some cases for years.
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (Wgfgn)
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Based on the reaction when it first showed up, I believe that they thought it was a bioweapon that got loose.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
I believe that, too.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
I believe that, too.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (i24o9)
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She wrote a BOOK about how she lied and manipulated Trump to do what they wanted him to do.
Hang, bitch.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)
The book is where she talked about how she worked with Pence to ignore Trump.
Hang, bitch.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)
The book is where she talked about how she worked with Pence to ignore Trump.
Posted by: BruceWayne at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (MGB5H)
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Bitch needs to be choked out with her scarf, the evil tyrant.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (ufFY8)
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I just had an image of the Bobs sitting across the table from a vial of COVID Vaccine.
'What exactly would you say you do here?'
*covid vaccine sweats*
'What exactly would you say you do here?'
*covid vaccine sweats*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (bss/y)
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>>When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult [to get people to comply
When mere Laymen figured that out in under 2 months, ALL of the Professionals should have been drawn and quartered.
When mere Laymen figured that out in under 2 months, ALL of the Professionals should have been drawn and quartered.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (oa1NA)
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Because, it, more or less, was.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (i24o9)
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Vaccine" Only Should Have Been Given to Older/High-Risk People
So there it is. They meant to kill off old people and high risk people.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (jgmnb)
The real secret behind COVID was Fauci was so bad at making military grade pathogens it killed virtually nobody. The intubation 'treatment' did, isolation did, world government insanity did...
Then the vaccine came out and did kill people, so cover that up and ruin the economy while you are at it.
So there it is. They meant to kill off old people and high risk people.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (jgmnb)
The real secret behind COVID was Fauci was so bad at making military grade pathogens it killed virtually nobody. The intubation 'treatment' did, isolation did, world government insanity did...
Then the vaccine came out and did kill people, so cover that up and ruin the economy while you are at it.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (n7h9X)
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I see nothing wrong with what Dr Birx did or said at the time.
Posted by: Big Pharma at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (+oR7L)
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214 The BS answer: because the shot will reduce the severity of COVID if you do get it.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
I have not seen any evidence that the vaxxed had milder cases. They aren't comparing themselves to the unvaxxed; they are comparing themselves to how sick they imagine they could have been if they hadn't gotten jabbed.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (Sf2cq)
Don’t you know that they would have died without that shot? No, you can’t see my work. ;-)
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
I have not seen any evidence that the vaxxed had milder cases. They aren't comparing themselves to the unvaxxed; they are comparing themselves to how sick they imagine they could have been if they hadn't gotten jabbed.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (Sf2cq)
Don’t you know that they would have died without that shot? No, you can’t see my work. ;-)
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (Mxf84)
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Zombie Colin Powell doesnt share Birx's belief in the vaccine helping high risk patients.
Posted by: Wally at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (NXYp1)
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206 Texas Tech should fire her IMMEDIATELY and she should be charged, tried, convicted and hanged right along side Fauci.
She wrote a BOOK about how she lied and manipulated Trump to do what they wanted him to do.
Hang, bitch.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)
Waiting. Just waiting.
She wrote a BOOK about how she lied and manipulated Trump to do what they wanted him to do.
Hang, bitch.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)
Waiting. Just waiting.
Posted by: Pennsylvania Ave Lampposts at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (N39Ws)
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When people start to realize that 99% of us are going to be fine, it becomes more and more difficult [to get people to comply]."
I remember one of the early drumbeats of the FNM was that if your kids didn't get the clot shot COVID would kill them. But...people noticed their kids weren't dying and even in the media any kids that died from COVID has some serious comorbidities.
And then the FNM found what they wanted. A cute 12 year old kid with no-comorbiditiesthat died. But then people noticed they were only using photos from when he was like 6.
Why? Oh, someone found a recent picture of our poor victim and he was north of 300lbs when he caught COVID.
That doesn't change feeling sorrow for the child obviously, but it destroyed the FNM's arguments at the time...
I remember one of the early drumbeats of the FNM was that if your kids didn't get the clot shot COVID would kill them. But...people noticed their kids weren't dying and even in the media any kids that died from COVID has some serious comorbidities.
And then the FNM found what they wanted. A cute 12 year old kid with no-comorbiditiesthat died. But then people noticed they were only using photos from when he was like 6.
Why? Oh, someone found a recent picture of our poor victim and he was north of 300lbs when he caught COVID.
That doesn't change feeling sorrow for the child obviously, but it destroyed the FNM's arguments at the time...
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (t0Rmr)
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I don't think the Feds actually locked down anything, it was all state mandates.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (N28XY)
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Old and busted: I lost my job because Elon Musk
New Hotness: 6.2 million people lost jobs due to covid shut downs crashing businesses.
Suck it up buttercups!
New Hotness: 6.2 million people lost jobs due to covid shut downs crashing businesses.
Suck it up buttercups!
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (w4nzS)
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207 Trump listened to experts who unfortunately as we are now seeing, and many of us knew , are full of crap. Many including Fauci, Collins and Dascak were trying to cover up their deeds. Others were pushing the draconian rules for power. Trump on this as well as other issues was naive, in thinking that everyone was on the same page and that they were doing the best for the citizens.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (KXtU1)
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Positives for Trump: He shut down nothing.
Negatives: He let Fauci write guidance that states used as excuses to shut down their economies in pursuit of "public health" and out of alignment with our Constitutional rights.
I don't care about the political fallout (and saying this now instead of then is a copout that I admit fully), but keeping Fauci at al in their positions while helping them push their fear mongering through his free-wheeling press conferences was a fail. He "should" have fired them, or at least shut them down.
I understand why he didn't. It was a politically calculated move since he was trying to win re-election. But I don't want presidents feeling like its okay to allow wide-ranging infringements on the entire country's rights just to win re-election.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (KXtU1)
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Positives for Trump: He shut down nothing.
Negatives: He let Fauci write guidance that states used as excuses to shut down their economies in pursuit of "public health" and out of alignment with our Constitutional rights.
I don't care about the political fallout (and saying this now instead of then is a copout that I admit fully), but keeping Fauci at al in their positions while helping them push their fear mongering through his free-wheeling press conferences was a fail. He "should" have fired them, or at least shut them down.
I understand why he didn't. It was a politically calculated move since he was trying to win re-election. But I don't want presidents feeling like its okay to allow wide-ranging infringements on the entire country's rights just to win re-election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
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This rhetorical tactic started showing up in the pie holes of the Left when it started to penetrate their thick skulls that their all-in assault on anybody that disagreed with them was failing.
That standard move here is, "WE might have gone over the line a bit with US demonizing YOU for breathing air but now that WE have agreed to get along YOU need to atone by meeting US halfway."
Um, no.
I don't believe in rewriting the classics.
“Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests—we did”
https://is.gd/wGrE0b
That standard move here is, "WE might have gone over the line a bit with US demonizing YOU for breathing air but now that WE have agreed to get along YOU need to atone by meeting US halfway."
Um, no.
I don't believe in rewriting the classics.
“Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests—we did”
https://is.gd/wGrE0b
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (i24o9)
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Based on the reaction when it first showed up, I believe that they thought it was a bioweapon that got loose.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
I believe that, too.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (i24o9)
How would they get that impression, just because it was.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
I believe that, too.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (i24o9)
How would they get that impression, just because it was.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (n7h9X)
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211 In a vacuum, sure.
But it was during a re-election campaign. You can't ignore that.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (oa1NA)
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"I infringed on your rights to win an election."
But it was during a re-election campaign. You can't ignore that.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (oa1NA)
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"I infringed on your rights to win an election."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
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I saw today Trump fired some NIH people, and of course they are all crying it is unfair and taking away from their necessary work to protect people from disease.
Well you assholes at the NIH just oversaw the greatest public health failure in history. You should be fired andprosecuted executed. For capital crimes.
Posted by: 18-1
I want executions. No less than what they caused for people.
Well you assholes at the NIH just oversaw the greatest public health failure in history. You should be fired and
Posted by: 18-1
I want executions. No less than what they caused for people.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (jfdO+)
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Plane company location in ok granted every single exemption asked for. Same company in Seattle granted almost 0.
If you’re talking about Boeing, the Philly plant granted just about every exemption.
The C-suite had anticipated 2-3 per cent submitting exemptions, but it turned out to be 8 per cent. They realized they couldn’t lose that much of the workforce
If you’re talking about Boeing, the Philly plant granted just about every exemption.
The C-suite had anticipated 2-3 per cent submitting exemptions, but it turned out to be 8 per cent. They realized they couldn’t lose that much of the workforce
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (0Tgaa)
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The damage is deeper even.
The NIH acted like getting COVID was like a Visitor from V getting a face full of that red dust. They lied.
What happens if there's a genuine health threat...? You going to listen to them?
The NIH acted like getting COVID was like a Visitor from V getting a face full of that red dust. They lied.
What happens if there's a genuine health threat...? You going to listen to them?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (PzXaK)
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RFKJ has entered the chat.
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (w4nzS)
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As I recall at the height of COVIDmania surveys of the public indicated they believed if you got COVID you had
10% of dying
50% chance of needing hospitalization
How did people get this notion? Because the government and FNM were lying to them
10% of dying
50% chance of needing hospitalization
How did people get this notion? Because the government and FNM were lying to them
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (t0Rmr)
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Whether clot shots worked or not they made a relative few wealthy beyond financial wet dreams. All because the government immunized the mfg against lawsuit.
Otherwise they would have been sued into oblivion like Erin Brokovich did over chromium in the water.
It should be illegal for Congress to immunize against lawsuit because lawsuit is the last resort to get damages. Fear of lawsuit keeps them in their lane. And at least pays for damages.
Otherwise they would have been sued into oblivion like Erin Brokovich did over chromium in the water.
It should be illegal for Congress to immunize against lawsuit because lawsuit is the last resort to get damages. Fear of lawsuit keeps them in their lane. And at least pays for damages.
Posted by: Hillary at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (l7Hjh)
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It's too easy now to say "Trump should've ...."
But go back and recall the absolute outrage and hysteria when Trump merely proposed "I hope we can re-open by Easter."
It ain't a rationalization, it's reality.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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They had him between a rock and a hard spot.
By that time he knew the pseudo Republicans would betray him.
So he fires them the press has a field day. Then he hires the most
highly recommended and they betray him and the press has a field day.
But go back and recall the absolute outrage and hysteria when Trump merely proposed "I hope we can re-open by Easter."
It ain't a rationalization, it's reality.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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They had him between a rock and a hard spot.
By that time he knew the pseudo Republicans would betray him.
So he fires them the press has a field day. Then he hires the most
highly recommended and they betray him and the press has a field day.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (I7b3/)
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People still defend the shot even though the same people who told them to mask, vaxx and stay put also said, with a straight face, protesting about race was completely okay.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (tT6L1)
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Dr Fauci and Birx should have gotten the Mussolini Light show.
Dr Fauci and Birx should have gotten the Mussolini Light show.
Posted by: Frank Barone at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (+oR7L)
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They’re still claiming getting vaccinated made the illness less severe and kept some people out of the hospital.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (l3YAf)
Similar to how man is making the temperature of the earth different than it is "supposed" to be.
In other words absolutely unfalsifiable.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:07 PM (l3YAf)
Similar to how man is making the temperature of the earth different than it is "supposed" to be.
In other words absolutely unfalsifiable.
Posted by: ... at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (lX8VI)
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235 Based on the reaction when it first showed up, I believe that they thought it was a bioweapon that got loose.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
I believe that, too.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (i24o9)
And I think they didn't know which one or one(s)...thus, why early treatment itself killed folks even before any vax discussions happened (like that Broadway star in his early 40s)...
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
I believe that, too.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (i24o9)
And I think they didn't know which one or one(s)...thus, why early treatment itself killed folks even before any vax discussions happened (like that Broadway star in his early 40s)...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (exHjb)
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As I understand, the trad vaccines never did either. It just trained your immune system to ID the virus and destroy it before it had a chance to take hold in your system.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (i24o9)
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That qualifies as preventing infection in my book.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:16 PM (i24o9)
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That qualifies as preventing infection in my book.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (ItAg0)
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My personal conspiracy theory wrt the mRNA vax is that it was just a test of various mechanisms used to refine and improve life extension therapy. For a long time mRNA had been spoken of in terms of progress in life extension, beating cancer too, but the money was in mega wealthy olds clinging to life. But there were so many issues and the issues were spicific to humans, not easily simulated or tested in other animals. How do you get a large body of data when massive large scale testing in the near term is very very naughty unethical?
Posted by: banana Dream at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (Y6IkP)
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Coronaviruses, theretofore, were known as common cold viruses, and we did not, theretofore, vaccinate for common colds for a reason.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (i24o9)
Coronaviruses can kill people, though. A lot of pre-covid ARDS/viral pneumonia deaths have likely had a coronavirus component.
That’s what made the whole covid fraud so ludicrous. SARS-nCoV-2 was a novel virus, worse than a typical cold, but hardly an unprecedented danger.
The cold virus costs a lot in healthcare expenses and lost work/school. A truly safe, effective coronavirus vaccine has been a holy grail of vaccine research. It was also well-known to be very difficult, which is why we didn’t have one.
Even the flu vaccine sucks, and it’s proven to be a lot easier to vax against.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:18 PM (i24o9)
Coronaviruses can kill people, though. A lot of pre-covid ARDS/viral pneumonia deaths have likely had a coronavirus component.
That’s what made the whole covid fraud so ludicrous. SARS-nCoV-2 was a novel virus, worse than a typical cold, but hardly an unprecedented danger.
The cold virus costs a lot in healthcare expenses and lost work/school. A truly safe, effective coronavirus vaccine has been a holy grail of vaccine research. It was also well-known to be very difficult, which is why we didn’t have one.
Even the flu vaccine sucks, and it’s proven to be a lot easier to vax against.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (l3YAf)
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NYT editorial explains that Black South Africans have moved their sights to the wrong targets.
"When I went to South Africa on the eve of its national elections last May, I found unease. The vote came 30 years after the end of apartheid, but the mood was anything but celebratory. Bitter and disappointed by the failure to achieve broad prosperity for Black citizens, political opportunists have redirected resentment from white residents, who still hold much of the country’s land and wealth, and refashioned it into an often violent antipathy toward African migrants who have flocked to South Africa, the continent’s wealthiest nation."
How can Black South Africans be so misled as to blame black migrants for their country's problems instead of blaming wypipo?
https://tinyurl.com/27vye2fn
"When I went to South Africa on the eve of its national elections last May, I found unease. The vote came 30 years after the end of apartheid, but the mood was anything but celebratory. Bitter and disappointed by the failure to achieve broad prosperity for Black citizens, political opportunists have redirected resentment from white residents, who still hold much of the country’s land and wealth, and refashioned it into an often violent antipathy toward African migrants who have flocked to South Africa, the continent’s wealthiest nation."
How can Black South Africans be so misled as to blame black migrants for their country's problems instead of blaming wypipo?
https://tinyurl.com/27vye2fn
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (2ap+5)
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Many lawsuits would seem to be in order.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (1bNHn)
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It ain't a rationalization, it's reality.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (fPmw+)
So you say.
The point is, she was Trump's advisor.
I get a little tired of people saying Trump didn't earn any of the criticism for how this was handled. He's not a freakin' god.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 02:08 PM (fPmw+)
So you say.
The point is, she was Trump's advisor.
I get a little tired of people saying Trump didn't earn any of the criticism for how this was handled. He's not a freakin' god.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (dGCAG)
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235 Based on the reaction when it first showed up, I believe that they thought it was a bioweapon that got loose.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
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That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for pointing that out.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
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That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for pointing that out.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (ItAg0)
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I remember one of the early drumbeats of the FNM was that if your kids didn't get the clot shot COVID would kill them. But...people noticed their kids weren't dying and even in the media any kids that died from COVID has some serious comorbidities.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (t0Rmr)
I remember before the Vax was there it was common knowledge that kids were not seriously affected by COVID.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM (t0Rmr)
I remember before the Vax was there it was common knowledge that kids were not seriously affected by COVID.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (KaBJL)
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Based on the reaction when it first showed up, I believe that they thought it was a bioweapon that got loose.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
I believe that, too.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (i24o9)
How would they get that impression, just because it was.
Posted by: Oldcat
Until only 11 old people died on the Diamond Princess Cruise Ship out of 3200 people.
If it were a bio weapon, that cruise ship should have been a floating morgue.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
I believe that, too.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (i24o9)
How would they get that impression, just because it was.
Posted by: Oldcat
Until only 11 old people died on the Diamond Princess Cruise Ship out of 3200 people.
If it were a bio weapon, that cruise ship should have been a floating morgue.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
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Remember, President Trump's all out assault on Washington is due to being betrayed multiple times by his own side. The left was a given and only incidental to what is currently going on.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (tT6L1)
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Ok I calmed down but I’m back. I will never forget that dessicated husk of a usurper declaring that those of us who refused the jabb were all killers.
Project much, you dried up piece of Delaware River sludge slime?
Project much, you dried up piece of Delaware River sludge slime?
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (61FSW)
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Sometimes I wonder why we didn't shut down the country during the 2003 coronavirus pandemic. I have some theories.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (Sf2cq)
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My employer found a doctor who obtained the “vaccine,” and promptly threw it in the trash after falsifying records suggesting he had administered the vaccine to us. The vaccine cards were required in order to fly into Hawaii (even on a private fucking jet). You had to register in advance with the State, and wait for permission to enter. My employer’s business was located in Hawaii, and required him to make frequent visits.
Hawaii is filled with low IQ bureaucrats with an authoritarian kink. Think Japanese POW camp directors.
Hawaii is filled with low IQ bureaucrats with an authoritarian kink. Think Japanese POW camp directors.
Posted by: Kathysaysso at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (tYTvT)
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if anything the shots killed seniors at a greater rate
the theory that their immune system weakness would make things somehow better didn't take into consideration that loads of people had adverse events that were NOT immune-system-related
the theory that their immune system weakness would make things somehow better didn't take into consideration that loads of people had adverse events that were NOT immune-system-related
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Heya, we’re reacting to the admission, not the truth about the vax. But thanks for stopping by to imply we’ve been asleep for 3 years.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (Hkcdp)
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I still wonder if the chinese were trying to tailor this enhanced virus in order to help their demographics.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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From what I can tell, their plan was to have a vaccine ready before release. They had a vaccine before the "leak" so that part is obvious.
Possibly they thought they could sell the world on their totalitarian solution (social credit, lockdowns, etc.) and population control which they are the experts at.
So it appears their plan was to cripple the entire world and use that to step in with the "cure." Only their cure was useless and Big Pharma came stole the playbook and used it to steal trillions.
It could also hide massive genocide of their own undesirables and even entire populations in countries without effective defense that they wanted to take over, like Africa.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (baIR6)
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Recall as well that it, "unexpectedly:"
. Put an end of the Hong Kong protests that were accelerating at the time; and
. Conveniently cratering our economy and helping -- along with the universal mail-in balloting -- enable a soft coup against Trump.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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From what I can tell, their plan was to have a vaccine ready before release. They had a vaccine before the "leak" so that part is obvious.
Possibly they thought they could sell the world on their totalitarian solution (social credit, lockdowns, etc.) and population control which they are the experts at.
So it appears their plan was to cripple the entire world and use that to step in with the "cure." Only their cure was useless and Big Pharma came stole the playbook and used it to steal trillions.
It could also hide massive genocide of their own undesirables and even entire populations in countries without effective defense that they wanted to take over, like Africa.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (baIR6)
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Recall as well that it, "unexpectedly:"
. Put an end of the Hong Kong protests that were accelerating at the time; and
. Conveniently cratering our economy and helping -- along with the universal mail-in balloting -- enable a soft coup against Trump.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (7VJFP)
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What happens if there's a genuine health threat...? You going to listen to them?
The lies about the clot shot made me look closer at the flu shot. It isn't poison like the clot shot, and it is a very old established real vaccine.
But...it doesn't actually do very much. Because they have to give you a vaccine with a version of the flu similar to what you will end up being exposed to when some illegal coughs on you at the grocery store. And even if the pick the correct variants that will come to the US from China (that's the flu reservoir all these flus generally come from) it will be highly mutated by the time you get it.
So how effective is the flu shot actually? About 7%.
Sorry, not worth spending my time going to the Dr. And certainly not worth the possibility they'll be something else in the vial they jab you with (something that happened a number of times...people know this right?)
The lies about the clot shot made me look closer at the flu shot. It isn't poison like the clot shot, and it is a very old established real vaccine.
But...it doesn't actually do very much. Because they have to give you a vaccine with a version of the flu similar to what you will end up being exposed to when some illegal coughs on you at the grocery store. And even if the pick the correct variants that will come to the US from China (that's the flu reservoir all these flus generally come from) it will be highly mutated by the time you get it.
So how effective is the flu shot actually? About 7%.
Sorry, not worth spending my time going to the Dr. And certainly not worth the possibility they'll be something else in the vial they jab you with (something that happened a number of times...people know this right?)
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (t0Rmr)
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The BS answer: because the shot will reduce the severity of COVID if you do get it.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
People who die of cancer, blood clots, heart failure, etc. have milder covid symptoms.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:10 PM (1Au9i)
People who die of cancer, blood clots, heart failure, etc. have milder covid symptoms.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (ExV1e)
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Shit, most of the management and about half of the commentariat of this here Smart Military Blog were calling for the heads of those of us who resisted the virtually untested gene therapy.
Mistakes Were Made
Mistakes Were Made
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (hGlN8)
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I think right away I was skeptical. If this disease was so deadly, so easily transmitted, I expected all the streets to be cleared of the homeless immediately, as they are hotbeds of very bad hygiene and germs. Then I expected tents to be burned and hoses with bleach scouring the sidewalks. None of this occurred.
Instead it became a ridiculous hopscotch of prohibitions.
Instead it became a ridiculous hopscotch of prohibitions.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (C53IZ)
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>>"I infringed on your rights to win an election."
More than a bit dishonest.
Try: 'I relied on the established system we have in place to handle these problems. We have tens of thousands of Professionals on Payroll who are responsible for these decisions and I am allowing them to do their jobs."
More than a bit dishonest.
Try: 'I relied on the established system we have in place to handle these problems. We have tens of thousands of Professionals on Payroll who are responsible for these decisions and I am allowing them to do their jobs."
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (oa1NA)
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I made cards for people
no one had to pay me
this is me admitting it
not that many not like stacks
I wish I'd made one for myself!
oh well. so far just autoimmune problems and I still get the rash. those mother-fu...
no one had to pay me
this is me admitting it
not that many not like stacks
I wish I'd made one for myself!
oh well. so far just autoimmune problems and I still get the rash. those mother-fu...
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (Pv3Rg)
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What happens if there's a genuine health threat...? You going to listen to them?
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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We're going to have a bovine epidemic, one's already died in N.Dakota.
We're going to have a bird flu pandemic - KILL ALL THE BIRDS
The shots are coming - line up.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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We're going to have a bovine epidemic, one's already died in N.Dakota.
We're going to have a bird flu pandemic - KILL ALL THE BIRDS
The shots are coming - line up.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (I7b3/)
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252 Many lawsuits would seem to be in order.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (1bNHn)
While this is something, it does nothing for the widow who took her husband to the ER because of a heart attack. She was forced to look on from the parking lot while he died by himself wondering where the love of his life was.
I'm 100% with Sponge on this. Public hanging with their rotting corpses left to rot in full view of politicians as a message.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (1bNHn)
While this is something, it does nothing for the widow who took her husband to the ER because of a heart attack. She was forced to look on from the parking lot while he died by himself wondering where the love of his life was.
I'm 100% with Sponge on this. Public hanging with their rotting corpses left to rot in full view of politicians as a message.
Posted by: Pennsylvania Ave Lampposts at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (N39Ws)
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267 Shit, most of the management and about half of the commentariat of this here Smart Military Blog were calling for the heads of those of us who resisted the virtually untested gene therapy.
Mistakes Were Made
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (hGlN
I don't remember that
Mistakes Were Made
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (hGlN
I don't remember that
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (VE6XX)
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Townhall.com@townhallcom
Senator John Kennedy has some advice for Democrats:
You just gotta try harder not to suck!
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That's homophobic!
Senator John Kennedy has some advice for Democrats:
You just gotta try harder not to suck!
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That's homophobic!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (L/fGl)
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I get a little tired of people saying Trump didn't earn any of the criticism for how this was handled. He's not a freakin' god.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (dGCAG)
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That's just the point: he's NOT a freakin' god.
If your doctor tells you you have a serious problem and need intensive therapy and/or surgery, and another doctor in a second opinion tells you the same thing, do you blow them both off?
No, of course not. You're in no position to dispute the opinions of two people much more knowledgeable in this than you are.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (dGCAG)
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That's just the point: he's NOT a freakin' god.
If your doctor tells you you have a serious problem and need intensive therapy and/or surgery, and another doctor in a second opinion tells you the same thing, do you blow them both off?
No, of course not. You're in no position to dispute the opinions of two people much more knowledgeable in this than you are.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (ItAg0)
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My one consolation is that so many of the ESTABLISHMENT physicians who were vilified, persecuted, and cancelled…now hold positions of authority in the US Govt. health apparatus.
Total vindication - for them.
Total vindication - for them.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (61FSW)
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@232 TJM , point taken but Trump was stuck in a no win situation. He listens to Fauci/Birx as experts t, they turn out to be lying sacks of crap.
If he fires them the propaganda ministries, the deep state and chicken shit Rinos run away
If this happened now Trump would be firing everyone and prosecuting everyone involved
If he fires them the propaganda ministries, the deep state and chicken shit Rinos run away
If this happened now Trump would be firing everyone and prosecuting everyone involved
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (KXtU1)
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"Which is another shitty irony if it was designed for cancer treatment.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (bss/y)"
No. This is open and shut. The shot was designed to kill people and there is a mountain of evidence regarding how they lied to regulators or bought them off, and then funded a bunch of fraudulent papers claiming it was safe.
You cannot possibly ACCIDENTALLY make what they put in the shots and then take those steps to hide it. In the case of SV40, it was the entire reason VAERS was created in the first place to track side effects. EVERYONE involved knows this.
Pfizer and Moderna employees got different lots. This is well established. They also have virtually zero VAERS reports for adverse effects in those lots. You connect the dots.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM (bss/y)"
No. This is open and shut. The shot was designed to kill people and there is a mountain of evidence regarding how they lied to regulators or bought them off, and then funded a bunch of fraudulent papers claiming it was safe.
You cannot possibly ACCIDENTALLY make what they put in the shots and then take those steps to hide it. In the case of SV40, it was the entire reason VAERS was created in the first place to track side effects. EVERYONE involved knows this.
Pfizer and Moderna employees got different lots. This is well established. They also have virtually zero VAERS reports for adverse effects in those lots. You connect the dots.
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (Wgfgn)
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109 Wait a minute, wait just a minute, if the shots were no good for young people, and not good for middle aged people; Why were they good for old people?
(K'mere granny, this is killin' everybody else but it gonna' be good for you.) Really?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (I7b3/)
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All actions are judged based on risk/reward.
If the reward (in reduced death or hospitalization) is zero, then there is no benefit so no justification for any risk.
For elderly there is a theorized harm prevented by a vaccine (ie a reward) so that justifies the risk of vaccine injury.
(K'mere granny, this is killin' everybody else but it gonna' be good for you.) Really?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:06 PM (I7b3/)
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All actions are judged based on risk/reward.
If the reward (in reduced death or hospitalization) is zero, then there is no benefit so no justification for any risk.
For elderly there is a theorized harm prevented by a vaccine (ie a reward) so that justifies the risk of vaccine injury.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (baIR6)
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> I still wonder if the chinese were trying to tailor this enhanced virus in order to help their demographics.
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I think it was going to be tailored to certain ethnic or racial demographics. It might have been anyway. Pretty nifty bioweapon that only kills certain individuals.
The Chinese have reason to want one, so do we.
Ask Fauci. I'm sure he'd know.
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I think it was going to be tailored to certain ethnic or racial demographics. It might have been anyway. Pretty nifty bioweapon that only kills certain individuals.
The Chinese have reason to want one, so do we.
Ask Fauci. I'm sure he'd know.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (Q4IgG)
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I want my scarves back!
Posted by: Seka at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (NAF5O)
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>>Until only 11 old people died on the Diamond Princess Cruise Ship out of 3200 people.
THIS
Once that ship came into Port and we got the breakdown it was over.
THIS
Once that ship came into Port and we got the breakdown it was over.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:28 PM (oa1NA)
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I have not seen any evidence that the vaxxed had milder cases. They aren't comparing themselves to the unvaxxed; they are comparing themselves to how sick they imagine they could have been if they hadn't gotten jabbed.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM
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There isn't any evidence. That's why I called it BS. Nevertheless it is the argument they pushed when it became clear the jab wasn't preventing transmission.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM
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There isn't any evidence. That's why I called it BS. Nevertheless it is the argument they pushed when it became clear the jab wasn't preventing transmission.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:28 PM (1Au9i)
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And they knew this... how? Evidence? Wishful thinking?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:11 PM (ItAg0)
Definitionally. If you got the shot then your covid was milder. Period.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:11 PM (ItAg0)
Definitionally. If you got the shot then your covid was milder. Period.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 02:28 PM (ExV1e)
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Heya, we’re reacting to the admission, not the truth about the vax. But thanks for stopping by to imply we’ve been asleep for 3 years.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (Hkcdp)
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Yeah, this place was on the bleeding edge of hard truths from Day Zero & Ground One.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (Hkcdp)
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Yeah, this place was on the bleeding edge of hard truths from Day Zero & Ground One.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:28 PM (7VJFP)
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How do you get a large body of data when massive large scale testing in the near term is very very naughty unethical?
Posted by: banana Dream at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (Y6IkP)
That seems unlikely because nobody is really collecting usable safety or efficacy data, as far as I can tell. There’s no money in it.
Fauci wanted to get mRNA tech mainstreamed for years. He was also a big believer in saving money and improving public health by mass vaccination against common illnesses. That was part of the reason he was funding research into mRNA and genetically-modified SARS viruses. The latter leaked out and gave him an excuse to use the former.
Posted by: banana Dream at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (Y6IkP)
That seems unlikely because nobody is really collecting usable safety or efficacy data, as far as I can tell. There’s no money in it.
Fauci wanted to get mRNA tech mainstreamed for years. He was also a big believer in saving money and improving public health by mass vaccination against common illnesses. That was part of the reason he was funding research into mRNA and genetically-modified SARS viruses. The latter leaked out and gave him an excuse to use the former.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:29 PM (l3YAf)
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Townhall.com@townhallcom
Senator John Kennedy has some advice for Democrats:
You just gotta try harder not to suck!
Peter Buttigieg has left the chat.
Senator John Kennedy has some advice for Democrats:
You just gotta try harder not to suck!
Peter Buttigieg has left the chat.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 18, 2025 02:29 PM (N39Ws)
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People still defend the shot even though the same people who told them to mask, vaxx and stay put also said, with a straight face, protesting about race was completely okay.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (tT6L1)
As was having unprotected mass sex for gays. And no problem sticking COVID patients in with elderly, retarded and pretty much any other institutional patient in a blue state.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (tT6L1)
As was having unprotected mass sex for gays. And no problem sticking COVID patients in with elderly, retarded and pretty much any other institutional patient in a blue state.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:29 PM (n7h9X)
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Remember Fauci predicted all that would happen a year before it did. I do think it was a inside job set up on President Trump
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 02:29 PM (fwDg9)
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269 >>"I infringed on your rights to win an election."
More than a bit dishonest.
Try: 'I relied on the established system we have in place to handle these problems. We have tens of thousands of Professionals on Payroll who are responsible for these decisions and I am allowing them to do their jobs."
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (oa1NA)
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Their jobs were to provide guidance on how states could infringe on American's rights?
The base assumption I have is that the government has no right to infringe on my rights absent civil procedure in response to specific acts on my part. Blanket declarations that everyone should be masked, non-essentially business (including churches) should be shut down, and you must obey or face police punishment are deeply, deeply unAmerican.
That Trump defaulted to these declarations instead of stomping on them was a failure.
More than a bit dishonest.
Try: 'I relied on the established system we have in place to handle these problems. We have tens of thousands of Professionals on Payroll who are responsible for these decisions and I am allowing them to do their jobs."
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (oa1NA)
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Their jobs were to provide guidance on how states could infringe on American's rights?
The base assumption I have is that the government has no right to infringe on my rights absent civil procedure in response to specific acts on my part. Blanket declarations that everyone should be masked, non-essentially business (including churches) should be shut down, and you must obey or face police punishment are deeply, deeply unAmerican.
That Trump defaulted to these declarations instead of stomping on them was a failure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:29 PM (GBKbO)
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Coronaviruses can kill people, though. A lot of pre-covid ARDS/viral pneumonia deaths have likely had a coronavirus component.
The numbers I have seen are about 20% of influenza cases are actually Human coronavirus OC43 infections.
And that disease has been in the public space for over 100 years - it traces back to another pandemic out of central asia (a shocker I know)
The numbers I have seen are about 20% of influenza cases are actually Human coronavirus OC43 infections.
And that disease has been in the public space for over 100 years - it traces back to another pandemic out of central asia (a shocker I know)
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 02:29 PM (t0Rmr)
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That qualifies as preventing infection in my book.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (ItAg0)
Not in mine.
It's a matter of magnitude of viral load and whether your system can overcome it, as I understand.
Their presentation of it elides over the semantic difficulties in using the word,"infection," and was likely calculated to dumb down the concept and get the desired public response, which was fear and acquiescence in taking the experimental mRNA.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (ItAg0)
Not in mine.
It's a matter of magnitude of viral load and whether your system can overcome it, as I understand.
Their presentation of it elides over the semantic difficulties in using the word,"infection," and was likely calculated to dumb down the concept and get the desired public response, which was fear and acquiescence in taking the experimental mRNA.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:29 PM (i24o9)
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Sounds like a deathbed confession, but she’s still holding back on all the truth.
Posted by: Cray Cray at February 18, 2025 02:29 PM (T6Rtu)
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I don't remember that
ace is jabbed, CBD and OM I believe are as well
I don’t recall them criticizing us but some morons definitely did
ace is jabbed, CBD and OM I believe are as well
I don’t recall them criticizing us but some morons definitely did
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (61FSW)
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Pelosi, a somewhat elderly woman, in the middle of a parade in Chinatown, San Francisco was a bit of a tip off.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (I7b3/)
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281 I want my scarves back!
Posted by: Seka at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (NAF5O)
There is a reference you do not see every day.
Posted by: Seka at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (NAF5O)
There is a reference you do not see every day.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (bss/y)
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Since she likes the vax so much, how about we give her a few dozen more?
Trust the Science, bitch.
Trust the Science, bitch.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (wtvvX)
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Once the CDC announced that race riots were beneficial for your health that was essentially the end of any pretense of civilized society. Oh but at least we had some "healthy introspection":
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Catherine Troisi, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, studies Covid-19. When, wearing a mask and standing at the edge of a great swell of people, she attended a recent protest in Houston supporting Mr. Floyd, a sense of contradiction tugged at her.
“I certainly condemned the anti-lockdown protests at the time, and I’m not condemning the protests now, and I struggle with that,” Dr. Troisi said. “I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.”
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Catherine Troisi, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, studies Covid-19. When, wearing a mask and standing at the edge of a great swell of people, she attended a recent protest in Houston supporting Mr. Floyd, a sense of contradiction tugged at her.
“I certainly condemned the anti-lockdown protests at the time, and I’m not condemning the protests now, and I struggle with that,” Dr. Troisi said. “I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.”
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Posted by: ... at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (lX8VI)
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Heya, we’re reacting to the admission, not the truth about the vax. But thanks for stopping by to imply we’ve been asleep for 3 years.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (Hkcdp)
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Yeah, this place was on the bleeding edge of hard truths from [at the risk of "crossing the memes"] Day Zero & Ground One.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (Hkcdp)
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Yeah, this place was on the bleeding edge of hard truths from [at the risk of "crossing the memes"] Day Zero & Ground One.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (7VJFP)
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Husband and I both got the shots.. We regret it..... Husband lost his sense of smell.. And yes after the shot we both later got covid and it was rough but we didn't die.. No thanks to the shots
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (VE6XX)
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233 Um, no.
I don't believe in rewriting the classics.
“Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests—we did”
https://is.gd/wGrE0b
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM
(xCA6C)
You forgot the 'wink' at the end....
I don't believe in rewriting the classics.
“Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests—we did”
https://is.gd/wGrE0b
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 02:21 PM
(xCA6C)
You forgot the 'wink' at the end....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (QGaXH)
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A "free" worldwide clinical trial of experimental bioweapons .. that prematurely induced all manner of illnesses and premature deaths in who knows how many millions?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (caDOG)
That too, of course, but gene therapy IS something that should be explored, in a research lab, with tightly controlled conditions.
Not foisted on the entire poopulation of the country.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:14 PM (caDOG)
That too, of course, but gene therapy IS something that should be explored, in a research lab, with tightly controlled conditions.
Not foisted on the entire poopulation of the country.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (dGCAG)
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affirm, rickb, Diamond Princess couldn't have been a more perfect experiment, and it told me everything I needed to know .
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (KaBJL)
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Don’t Life Insurance policies ordinarily exclude payments for Bioweapons? Chemical warfare?
Or, Experimental Medical Trials?
Weird, that. Pharmaceutical companies have “immunity” but everyone else gets fucked up the ass??
Or, Experimental Medical Trials?
Weird, that. Pharmaceutical companies have “immunity” but everyone else gets fucked up the ass??
Posted by: Common Tater at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (0cASp)
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My personal conspiracy theory wrt the mRNA vax is that it was just a test of various mechanisms used to refine and improve life extension therapy. For a long time mRNA had been spoken of in terms of progress in life extension, beating cancer too, but the money was in mega wealthy olds clinging to life. But there were so many issues and the issues were spicific to humans, not easily simulated or tested in other animals. How do you get a large body of data when massive large scale testing in the near term is very very naughty unethical?
Posted by: banana Dream at February 18, 2025
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This sounds creepily like the plot of the Trek episode "Miri."
Posted by: banana Dream at February 18, 2025
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This sounds creepily like the plot of the Trek episode "Miri."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (J2vNu)
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277 @232 TJM , point taken but Trump was stuck in a no win situation. He listens to Fauci/Birx as experts t, they turn out to be lying sacks of crap.
If he fires them the propaganda ministries, the deep state and chicken shit Rinos run away
If this happened now Trump would be firing everyone and prosecuting everyone involved
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (KXtU1)
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Yes, that's the political reality, and it sucked. Trump was thinking politically, and it didn't even fucking work because they stole the election from him.
Hindsight and all, but being the strong horse in the face of pressure from the media would have probably played better long term.
If he fires them the propaganda ministries, the deep state and chicken shit Rinos run away
If this happened now Trump would be firing everyone and prosecuting everyone involved
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (KXtU1)
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Yes, that's the political reality, and it sucked. Trump was thinking politically, and it didn't even fucking work because they stole the election from him.
Hindsight and all, but being the strong horse in the face of pressure from the media would have probably played better long term.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
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So...Berenson points out in his substack that the 'm' in the mRNA shots does not stand for 'messenger', but rather 'MODIFIED' RNA. This is because the uridine base has been exchanged for a pseudouridine base which appears to attenuate the victim's immune response rather than strengthen it against infection.
Fauci is a war criminal. Collins, by his collusion with Fauci, is a war criminal. Birx, by her own admission, is also a war criminal. The damage to the credibility of the medical system caused by these despicable political hacks, the cowardly bureaucrats at the FDA, NIH and CDC, and the deceitful crooks of Big Pharma will take decades to correct.
Fauci is a war criminal. Collins, by his collusion with Fauci, is a war criminal. Birx, by her own admission, is also a war criminal. The damage to the credibility of the medical system caused by these despicable political hacks, the cowardly bureaucrats at the FDA, NIH and CDC, and the deceitful crooks of Big Pharma will take decades to correct.
Posted by: Pete at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (h+rwd)
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293 Sounds like a deathbed confession, but she’s still holding back on all the truth.
Posted by: Cray Cray at February 18, 2025 02:29 PM (T6Rtu)
Perhaps trying to make things right with God.
Posted by: Cray Cray at February 18, 2025 02:29 PM (T6Rtu)
Perhaps trying to make things right with God.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (N39Ws)
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Each one of us has a story. We can all provide examples of how this fucked our lives up.
Me personally, I was married to a woman who believed all of this unconditionally, who was the mask nazi, who gave me shit for not wanting a shot, who went apeshit crazy over the mass morgues being set up in New Orleans, who was just fine with the kids not going in person to school, who excused stupid things like remote PE class, and all of that. It destroyed our marriage and my family, one that was actually doing OK before.
Fuck them all.
Me personally, I was married to a woman who believed all of this unconditionally, who was the mask nazi, who gave me shit for not wanting a shot, who went apeshit crazy over the mass morgues being set up in New Orleans, who was just fine with the kids not going in person to school, who excused stupid things like remote PE class, and all of that. It destroyed our marriage and my family, one that was actually doing OK before.
Fuck them all.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (PzXaK)
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To this day, I’ve yet to meet someone who regrets not getting the jab.
Posted by: Cray Cray at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (T6Rtu)
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SOME people ought to be hung by their own scarves I am just saying
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (WIRXc)
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I'm still waiting for the lights to come on for people who have had Covid four or five times and are still getting their Covid shots every year.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (Sf2cq)
Eventually you pull the trigger on the loaded chamber.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:13 PM (Sf2cq)
Eventually you pull the trigger on the loaded chamber.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Ciampino - they didn't stop at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (KjLnc)
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I get a little tired of people saying Trump didn't earn any of the criticism for how this was handled. He's not a freakin' god.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (dGCAG)
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That's just the point: he's NOT a freakin' god.
If your doctor tells you you have a serious problem and need intensive therapy and/or surgery, and another doctor in a second opinion tells you the same thing, do you blow them both off?
No, of course not. You're in no position to dispute the opinions of two people much more knowledgeable in this than you are.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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I have had several tragedies in my family that were avoidable but the Doctors gave bad advice.
It is one of my deepest regrets that I was unable to convince my own family members to get a 2nd or 3rd opinion instead of jumping ahead with the advice of their doctor.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (dGCAG)
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That's just the point: he's NOT a freakin' god.
If your doctor tells you you have a serious problem and need intensive therapy and/or surgery, and another doctor in a second opinion tells you the same thing, do you blow them both off?
No, of course not. You're in no position to dispute the opinions of two people much more knowledgeable in this than you are.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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I have had several tragedies in my family that were avoidable but the Doctors gave bad advice.
It is one of my deepest regrets that I was unable to convince my own family members to get a 2nd or 3rd opinion instead of jumping ahead with the advice of their doctor.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (baIR6)
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I have not seen any evidence that the vaxxed had milder cases. They aren't comparing themselves to the unvaxxed; they are comparing themselves to how sick they imagine they could have been if they hadn't gotten jabbed.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM
Plus a lot of the serial vaxxers are hypochondriacs. Hence "long covid" and other things not distinguishable from fear and depression.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM
Plus a lot of the serial vaxxers are hypochondriacs. Hence "long covid" and other things not distinguishable from fear and depression.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (n7h9X)
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So it appears their plan was to cripple the entire world
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The tell here is that they prohibited travel within China, but permitted travel out of China. Which spread the disease worldwide.
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The tell here is that they prohibited travel within China, but permitted travel out of China. Which spread the disease worldwide.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:32 PM (ItAg0)
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I don’t recall them criticizing us but some morons definitely did
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (61FSW)
Eh. For the most part, from what I recall the people who said they had gotten the jab said it was due to work or because of some medical thing they had to do (which is not an endorsement in my estimation.)
As for people who were pro vax, seemed like it was either trolls or bth.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (61FSW)
Eh. For the most part, from what I recall the people who said they had gotten the jab said it was due to work or because of some medical thing they had to do (which is not an endorsement in my estimation.)
As for people who were pro vax, seemed like it was either trolls or bth.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:32 PM (bss/y)
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>>Their jobs were to provide guidance on how states could infringe on American's rights?
Again, completely dishonest in your argument.
You should change your name to Motte and Bailey.
Again, completely dishonest in your argument.
You should change your name to Motte and Bailey.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:32 PM (oa1NA)
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Pelosi, a somewhat elderly woman, in the middle of a parade in Chinatown, San Francisco was a bit of a tip off.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (I7b3/)
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They were all on therapeutics (denied to the plebes) and any jabs received in public were saline.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (I7b3/)
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They were all on therapeutics (denied to the plebes) and any jabs received in public were saline.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:32 PM (7VJFP)
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Yes, that's the political reality, and it sucked. Trump was thinking politically, and it didn't even fucking work because they stole the election from him.
Hindsight and all, but being the strong horse in the face of pressure from the media would have probably played better long term.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
The hysteria was world wide with daily death tolls.. I will neither blame nor exonerate Trump but I am leaning more on the less blame side but not totally
Yes, that's the political reality, and it sucked. Trump was thinking politically, and it didn't even fucking work because they stole the election from him.
Hindsight and all, but being the strong horse in the face of pressure from the media would have probably played better long term.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
The hysteria was world wide with daily death tolls.. I will neither blame nor exonerate Trump but I am leaning more on the less blame side but not totally
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (VE6XX)
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"283 I have not seen any evidence that the vaxxed had milder cases. They aren't comparing themselves to the unvaxxed; they are comparing themselves to how sick they imagine they could have been if they hadn't gotten jabbed.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM"
Its shown beyond doubt bow the shots increased mortality and hospitalizations for those with covid. Like not even close
The final piece was countries pencil whipping numbers saying you weren't jabbed if within 2 weeks of the last shot, or after a booster was out and you didn't get it yet. It was all lies, but its incontrovertable now.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM"
Its shown beyond doubt bow the shots increased mortality and hospitalizations for those with covid. Like not even close
The final piece was countries pencil whipping numbers saying you weren't jabbed if within 2 weeks of the last shot, or after a booster was out and you didn't get it yet. It was all lies, but its incontrovertable now.
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (Wgfgn)
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>>I have had several tragedies in my family that were avoidable but the Doctors gave bad advice.
#3 Cause of Death is Medical Error.
#3 Cause of Death is Medical Error.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (oa1NA)
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I have not seen any evidence that the vaxxed had milder cases. They aren't comparing themselves to the unvaxxed; they are comparing themselves to how sick they imagine they could have been if they hadn't gotten jabbed.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM
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It's an unbased comparative. How sick would you have been if you hadn't had the jab?
No way of knowing. One point - you can draw any straight line you want through it.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM
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It's an unbased comparative. How sick would you have been if you hadn't had the jab?
No way of knowing. One point - you can draw any straight line you want through it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (ItAg0)
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No, of course not. You're in no position to dispute the opinions of two people much more knowledgeable in this than you are.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (ItAg0)
You're missing the point. There was plenty of evidence at the time, that HIS ADVISORS WERE DEEP STATE OPERATIVES, and there were PLENTY of other experts whose voices were being silenced by the media, other government operatives, and the Democrat Party.
To pretend he only had Fauci and Birx that he could have listened to is silly.
And yes, the point is, Trump's first term was A MONUMENTAL FAILURE because he didn't realize who he was dealing with.
Plenty of other people did, but he didn't.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (ItAg0)
You're missing the point. There was plenty of evidence at the time, that HIS ADVISORS WERE DEEP STATE OPERATIVES, and there were PLENTY of other experts whose voices were being silenced by the media, other government operatives, and the Democrat Party.
To pretend he only had Fauci and Birx that he could have listened to is silly.
And yes, the point is, Trump's first term was A MONUMENTAL FAILURE because he didn't realize who he was dealing with.
Plenty of other people did, but he didn't.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (dGCAG)
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And from what little I saw of him, bth did not seem to be pro vaxx per se, but rather he was against the cavalier stance that many of us had towards chinese lung AIDS in general.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (bss/y)
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I read that the videos of Chinese dropping in the streets etc were 'made for TV' scenes.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (I7b3/)
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Coronaviruses can kill people, though. A lot of pre-covid ARDS/viral pneumonia deaths have likely had a coronavirus component.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (l3YAf)
People die from colds, turned pneumonia, all the time.
When they started using the term PLI, I started looking into coronaviruses, and you could track the efforts to come up with a vaccine and their problems.
The fact that it was novel made no difference to me in the estimation of whether they could arrive at an effective vaccine, given the past difficulties.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:23 PM (l3YAf)
People die from colds, turned pneumonia, all the time.
When they started using the term PLI, I started looking into coronaviruses, and you could track the efforts to come up with a vaccine and their problems.
The fact that it was novel made no difference to me in the estimation of whether they could arrive at an effective vaccine, given the past difficulties.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:34 PM (i24o9)
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Positives for Trump: He shut down nothing.
Negatives: He let Fauci write guidance that states used as excuses to shut down their economies in pursuit of "public health" and out of alignment with our Constitutional rights.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Covid was Trump I's greatest managerial failure but there was the failure of almost every state government, local governments aplenty, and health institutions.
Basically, pandemic management is only a hindsight proposition and the reason why his GOP rivals did not attack Trump from the right on Covid in 2024 primaries is that many of them instituted lockdowns too or approved of them publicly.
Basically, the scientific community whether health, climate, etc. has proven itself to be malignant corrupt narcissists only out for the next grant. Our military was full of traitors, and our justices at Scotus mostly cowards. Few if anyone believed the rot was this deep plus Gell-Mann amnesia meant that someone wise to Covid, gave passes to the military, and so on as virtuous. Almost every single institution, public or private, has been corrupted to do evil. Tough to comprehend that mentally.
Negatives: He let Fauci write guidance that states used as excuses to shut down their economies in pursuit of "public health" and out of alignment with our Constitutional rights.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Covid was Trump I's greatest managerial failure but there was the failure of almost every state government, local governments aplenty, and health institutions.
Basically, pandemic management is only a hindsight proposition and the reason why his GOP rivals did not attack Trump from the right on Covid in 2024 primaries is that many of them instituted lockdowns too or approved of them publicly.
Basically, the scientific community whether health, climate, etc. has proven itself to be malignant corrupt narcissists only out for the next grant. Our military was full of traitors, and our justices at Scotus mostly cowards. Few if anyone believed the rot was this deep plus Gell-Mann amnesia meant that someone wise to Covid, gave passes to the military, and so on as virtuous. Almost every single institution, public or private, has been corrupted to do evil. Tough to comprehend that mentally.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (ctrM5)
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One of the doctors is apparently suffering PTSD from the COVID epidemic that had the entire ER in biohazard gear. Yeah. And they don't tend to miss a chance to talk about people who died from it.
Remdisivir + ventilator. They didn't die from Covid, they died from the treatment.
Remdisivir + ventilator. They didn't die from Covid, they died from the treatment.
Posted by: Angel at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (oiJGz)
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318 >>Their jobs were to provide guidance on how states could infringe on American's rights?
Again, completely dishonest in your argument.
You should change your name to Motte and Bailey.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:32 PM (oa1NA)
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So what part of my argument is the motte and which is the bailey?
Again, completely dishonest in your argument.
You should change your name to Motte and Bailey.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:32 PM (oa1NA)
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So what part of my argument is the motte and which is the bailey?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)
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Next thing you know they will admit COVID was not much more dangerous than a bad cold.
Wait, I think Birx just did that.
A lot of people deserve prison and worse for what hey did to this country.
Wait, I think Birx just did that.
A lot of people deserve prison and worse for what hey did to this country.
Posted by: Ripley at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (GUOwU)
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Although, I'll say that it was kind of fun to go into "mask required" restaurants wearing my army surplus gas mask.
The looks from the people wearing their dumb face diapers were great.
The looks from the people wearing their dumb face diapers were great.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (PzXaK)
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Until only 11 old people died on the Diamond Princess Cruise Ship out of 3200 people.
If it were a bio weapon, that cruise ship should have been a floating morgue.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
That was the most compelling data point that C19 was no big deal. So it was washed from memory.
If it were a bio weapon, that cruise ship should have been a floating morgue.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
That was the most compelling data point that C19 was no big deal. So it was washed from memory.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (i24o9)
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Remdisivir + ventilator. They didn't die from Covid, they died from the treatment.
Posted by: Angel at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (oiJGz)
Exactly
Posted by: Angel at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (oiJGz)
Exactly
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (VE6XX)
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made cards for people
no one had to pay me
this is me admitting it
not that many not like stacks
I wish I'd made one for myself!
oh well. so far just autoimmune problems and I still get the rash. those mother-fu...
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (Pv3Rg)
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I did too. I kept telling people not to get the shot. I worked in medical research for years and I knew damn well they had done zero clinical trials on the shot. I kept asking people if they liked being a guinea pig for big pharma, and no one knew if they would all drop dead from getting it. I gladly made cards for people who had to have them. I even scrawled a signature on them.
no one had to pay me
this is me admitting it
not that many not like stacks
I wish I'd made one for myself!
oh well. so far just autoimmune problems and I still get the rash. those mother-fu...
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (Pv3Rg)
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I did too. I kept telling people not to get the shot. I worked in medical research for years and I knew damn well they had done zero clinical trials on the shot. I kept asking people if they liked being a guinea pig for big pharma, and no one knew if they would all drop dead from getting it. I gladly made cards for people who had to have them. I even scrawled a signature on them.
Posted by: megthered at February 18, 2025 02:36 PM (J9ZRC)
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Could be worse. They could have mandated Kaboom! cereal for two meals a day.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 18, 2025 02:36 PM (a3Q+t)
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It is one of my deepest regrets that I was unable to convince my own family members to get a 2nd or 3rd opinion instead of jumping ahead with the advice of their doctor.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (baIR6)
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Suppose you get second or third opinions that provide the same advice as the first quack?
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (baIR6)
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Suppose you get second or third opinions that provide the same advice as the first quack?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:36 PM (ItAg0)
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Sometimes I wonder why we didn't shut down the country during the 2003 coronavirus pandemic. I have some theories.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025
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Or the 1968-69 Hong Kong Flu pandemic, either.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025
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Or the 1968-69 Hong Kong Flu pandemic, either.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:36 PM (J2vNu)
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Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (hGlN
I don't remember that
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The most I recall Ace saying was that he did not understand why some commenters were so worked up over the vax. He never criticized us anti-jabbers, and seemed to totally avoid taking a position so as to (wisely) not give medical advice.
I don't remember that
Posted by: It's me donna
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The most I recall Ace saying was that he did not understand why some commenters were so worked up over the vax. He never criticized us anti-jabbers, and seemed to totally avoid taking a position so as to (wisely) not give medical advice.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:36 PM (baIR6)
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Trump knew the danger to the country of not being reelected and so tried to thread the needle as it were. He was not in a position to fire these assholes and maintain the popularity needed for reelection and many of us knew it at the time. Despite alternately propping him up, he *did* eventually take on Fauci pretty early in 2020 and pushed hard for things the media deemed "unacceptable" like opening the country by Easter.
As we all know Trump *was* reelected in 2020, his biggest failure being not stopping the cheat.
As we all know Trump *was* reelected in 2020, his biggest failure being not stopping the cheat.
Posted by: ... at February 18, 2025 02:36 PM (lX8VI)
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The hysteria was world wide with daily death tolls.. I will neither blame nor exonerate Trump but I am leaning more on the less blame side but not totally
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (VE6XX)"
The people died, the big lie turned out to be that they died because CDC and NIH both KNOWINGLY gave bad treatment info. Vents, plus directives to avoid meds they KNEW would help.
This was not an accident, this was done to us deliberately. The grant proposal for making the virus had mitigation info about treatments. THEY KNEW
The hysteria was world wide with daily death tolls.. I will neither blame nor exonerate Trump but I am leaning more on the less blame side but not totally
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (VE6XX)"
The people died, the big lie turned out to be that they died because CDC and NIH both KNOWINGLY gave bad treatment info. Vents, plus directives to avoid meds they KNEW would help.
This was not an accident, this was done to us deliberately. The grant proposal for making the virus had mitigation info about treatments. THEY KNEW
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:36 PM (Wgfgn)
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Plus a lot of the serial vaxxers are hypochondriacs. Hence "long covid" and other things not distinguishable from fear and depression.
Everybody I know who is jabbed and boosted to the max, just keep getting the coof. One lady suddenly developed asthma at age 78. Never had lung problems in her life.
And they’re the lucky ones. I know 3 cases of cancer in remission that suddenly morphed into turbo cancer post-jab.
They are no longer with us.
Everybody I know who is jabbed and boosted to the max, just keep getting the coof. One lady suddenly developed asthma at age 78. Never had lung problems in her life.
And they’re the lucky ones. I know 3 cases of cancer in remission that suddenly morphed into turbo cancer post-jab.
They are no longer with us.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:36 PM (61FSW)
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Remdisivir + ventilator. They didn't die from Covid, they died from the treatment.
not only that but withholding the traditional treatment of a Z-pack or steroids entirely from people - even elderly! - presenting with early COVID
come back when your pulse ox drops! insane
the entire thing was insane and no way the docs just didn't notice. no I will never forgive the docs. nope.
not only that but withholding the traditional treatment of a Z-pack or steroids entirely from people - even elderly! - presenting with early COVID
come back when your pulse ox drops! insane
the entire thing was insane and no way the docs just didn't notice. no I will never forgive the docs. nope.
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Was mentioned in the other thread, but I only saw the 2.6% figure, not this new one of 3.1% chance of impact today.
"NASA says the chance of an asteroid hitting Earth in 2032 has risen to 3.1%, up from 2.6% yesterday, the highest risk assessment ever recorded."
https://x.com/NewsWire_US/status/1891927067832295606
"NASA says the chance of an asteroid hitting Earth in 2032 has risen to 3.1%, up from 2.6% yesterday, the highest risk assessment ever recorded."
https://x.com/NewsWire_US/status/1891927067832295606
Posted by: Thrawn at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (9Ovst)
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294 I don't remember that
ace is jabbed, CBD and OM I believe are as well
I don’t recall them criticizing us but some morons definitely did
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (61
Because of work in 2020 I had 2 jabs plus booster, never had covid unless it was early 2019.
ace is jabbed, CBD and OM I believe are as well
I don’t recall them criticizing us but some morons definitely did
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (61
Because of work in 2020 I had 2 jabs plus booster, never had covid unless it was early 2019.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (jgmnb)
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And they knew this... how? Evidence? Wishful thinking?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:11 PM (ItAg0)
Definitionally. If you got the shot then your covid was milder. Period.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 02:28 PM (ExV1e)
Same was true for Ivermectin, but that had to be demonized and suppressed. Only the elites got to take that. Look at how few of the old farts died in Congress and the Deep State.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:11 PM (ItAg0)
Definitionally. If you got the shot then your covid was milder. Period.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 02:28 PM (ExV1e)
Same was true for Ivermectin, but that had to be demonized and suppressed. Only the elites got to take that. Look at how few of the old farts died in Congress and the Deep State.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (n7h9X)
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No, of course not. You're in no position to dispute the opinions of two people much more knowledgeable in this than you are.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (ItAg0)
First off, lots of people are in a position to dispute that. Doctors suck, man. Do your own research. You have to be your own advocate.
But that’s also irrelevant, because it was clear at the time Trump had figured out covid was an op by May of 2020. He’s not a dumb guy. He was demanding things reopen.
He was telling Birx to open up guidance. She ignored him and lied to him, which is on her, but is a bit on him, too. He should have fired Fauci and Birx and gone whole-hog on exposing the hoax.
Also, until recently, Trump was trying to take credit for rushing the vaccines out. Poor judgment on his part.
None of that is unforgivable, and he’s doing a kickass job now, but Trump is not above criticism here.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:27 PM (ItAg0)
First off, lots of people are in a position to dispute that. Doctors suck, man. Do your own research. You have to be your own advocate.
But that’s also irrelevant, because it was clear at the time Trump had figured out covid was an op by May of 2020. He’s not a dumb guy. He was demanding things reopen.
He was telling Birx to open up guidance. She ignored him and lied to him, which is on her, but is a bit on him, too. He should have fired Fauci and Birx and gone whole-hog on exposing the hoax.
Also, until recently, Trump was trying to take credit for rushing the vaccines out. Poor judgment on his part.
None of that is unforgivable, and he’s doing a kickass job now, but Trump is not above criticism here.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (l3YAf)
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Yes, that's the political reality, and it sucked. Trump was thinking politically, and it didn't even fucking work because they stole the election from him.
Hindsight and all, but being the strong horse in the face of pressure from the media would have probably played better long term.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
And it must be said, he won in 2024 because he convince enough people he wasn't going to be as gullible to the Deep State as he was in his first term.
Without them, he would have lost again.
Hindsight and all, but being the strong horse in the face of pressure from the media would have probably played better long term.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
And it must be said, he won in 2024 because he convince enough people he wasn't going to be as gullible to the Deep State as he was in his first term.
Without them, he would have lost again.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (dGCAG)
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325 And from what little I saw of him, bth did not seem to be pro vaxx per se, but rather he was against the cavalier stance that many of us had towards chinese lung AIDS in general.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Trump? Trump said there were many things to try. Said he was given monoclonal antibodies and felt ten years younger. Remember, he had Covid in the middle of the hysteria. He also advocated trying various other therapeutics. He mentioned HcQ
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Trump? Trump said there were many things to try. Said he was given monoclonal antibodies and felt ten years younger. Remember, he had Covid in the middle of the hysteria. He also advocated trying various other therapeutics. He mentioned HcQ
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (I7b3/)
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If it were a bio weapon, that cruise ship should have been a floating morgue.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
Depended what said bioweapon was designed for - a quick kill rate and petering out, or spreading like mad around the world to devastate as many western economies as possible.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
Depended what said bioweapon was designed for - a quick kill rate and petering out, or spreading like mad around the world to devastate as many western economies as possible.
Posted by: ... at February 18, 2025 02:38 PM (lX8VI)
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and ivermectin.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:38 PM (I7b3/)
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Birx should've lost her medical license for the ethical and clinical violations she committed over Covid. To have misled/lied to her boss and the nation is unforgivable. And her dereliction to scientific method was professional misconduct.
She should be worried about going to prison along with Fauci in a just world.
She should be worried about going to prison along with Fauci in a just world.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 18, 2025 02:38 PM (aXxgO)
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So what part of my argument is the motte and which is the bailey?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM
Come to my OF channel, where for a small, but nominal fee, you can see Bailey's motte.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM
Come to my OF channel, where for a small, but nominal fee, you can see Bailey's motte.
Posted by: Bailey at February 18, 2025 02:38 PM (a3Q+t)
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I wrote here in April or May 2020 that I believed the 'experts' were simply working from a playbook that had been on their shelves for years. A playbook of un-tested actions to stop wide-scale spread of a highly-infectious and high-fatality airborne virus.
Not because they were supremely confident those actions would work to contain the COVID bug. But because they wanted to perform a once-in-their-lifetimes global, real-world, TEST of that playbook. Primarily to get data and info about how political leaders and billions of human guinea pigs would act on 'expert' recommendations for mandatory masking, distancing, lock-downs, and ultimately, inoculations. After their recommended preventive actions were implemented, the experts could get TEST data on the effectiveness of the playbook's plays.
Birx's admissions make it appear I was on the right track back then. Sadly.
Trump needs to order mass construction of lampposts.
Not because they were supremely confident those actions would work to contain the COVID bug. But because they wanted to perform a once-in-their-lifetimes global, real-world, TEST of that playbook. Primarily to get data and info about how political leaders and billions of human guinea pigs would act on 'expert' recommendations for mandatory masking, distancing, lock-downs, and ultimately, inoculations. After their recommended preventive actions were implemented, the experts could get TEST data on the effectiveness of the playbook's plays.
Birx's admissions make it appear I was on the right track back then. Sadly.
Trump needs to order mass construction of lampposts.
Posted by: Gref at February 18, 2025 02:38 PM (aBgBM)
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259 Ok I calmed down but I’m back. I will never forget that dessicated husk of a usurper declaring that those of us who refused the jabb were all killers.
Project much, you dried up piece of Delaware River sludge slime?
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (61FSW)
I remember Jim Cramer opening his Mad Money show with a full-on rant against those who refused the jab saying they were selfishly, foolishly preventing the economy from reopening.
I don't think he ever walked it back.
Similarly, on Monday before the 2024 election, he opened with a list of stocks that would do well in a Harris administration. As if the fix was in.
I think he should just stick to stocks from now on and leave the social stuff to Larry Kudlow.
Project much, you dried up piece of Delaware River sludge slime?
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (61FSW)
I remember Jim Cramer opening his Mad Money show with a full-on rant against those who refused the jab saying they were selfishly, foolishly preventing the economy from reopening.
I don't think he ever walked it back.
Similarly, on Monday before the 2024 election, he opened with a list of stocks that would do well in a Harris administration. As if the fix was in.
I think he should just stick to stocks from now on and leave the social stuff to Larry Kudlow.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at February 18, 2025 02:38 PM (QGaXH)
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There are buttons on this keyboard that cause unintended things to happen.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:39 PM (I7b3/)
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The Scarf Lady!
Posted by: JM in Illinois at February 18, 2025 02:39 PM (R1v/J)
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Because of work in 2020 I had 2 jabs plus booster, never had covid unless it was early 2019.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (jgmnb)
Similar for me except I never got a booster just the initial two. Our big client was a government contractor and eventually we had to get it to go on site.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (jgmnb)
Similar for me except I never got a booster just the initial two. Our big client was a government contractor and eventually we had to get it to go on site.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:39 PM (n7h9X)
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I seem to recall something. When it was brought up that young, healthy kids did not seem to be getting sick and therefore should not need the Vaxx, there were articles popping up about the cytokine storm effect you saw with the 1917 Spanish Flu (where young people were greatly at risk due to this phenomenon.) It's was a red herring in this case but also illustrates something: How much of this was an evolving narrative being shaped by various forces to try to counter dissention and how much of this was being thrown up by useful idiots? I dunno. It's something that sucks about the modern social media era.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 18, 2025 02:39 PM (bss/y)
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I read that the videos of Chinese dropping in the streets etc were 'made for TV' scenes.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
Those scared the hell out of me when I first saw them. But then I noticed I'd go three, four days in a row without seeing people fall dead in the streets.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
Those scared the hell out of me when I first saw them. But then I noticed I'd go three, four days in a row without seeing people fall dead in the streets.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (L/fGl)
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>>So what part of my argument is the motte and which is the bailey?
I provided you the Motte and you immediately retreated, twice, to the Bailey.
Trump didn't make a decision to deny you of your Rights. Trump made a decision to rely on those employed in the positions charged with making these guidance proposals/decisions and implemented some of their guidance. He didn't implement ALL, but far too much.
But you insist on framing the argument from the result incurred from bad guidance.
You have a position. I get that. It's not a reasonable one.
I provided you the Motte and you immediately retreated, twice, to the Bailey.
Trump didn't make a decision to deny you of your Rights. Trump made a decision to rely on those employed in the positions charged with making these guidance proposals/decisions and implemented some of their guidance. He didn't implement ALL, but far too much.
But you insist on framing the argument from the result incurred from bad guidance.
You have a position. I get that. It's not a reasonable one.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (oa1NA)
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and ivermectin.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:38 PM (I7b3/)
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Oh man, bring that up. The demonization of ivermectin which is a WHO essential medicine and very effective at treating the Virus of Unknown Origin.
"hahaha, you're so dumb taking horse medicine you rube...." Fuck off, NIH.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:38 PM (I7b3/)
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Oh man, bring that up. The demonization of ivermectin which is a WHO essential medicine and very effective at treating the Virus of Unknown Origin.
"hahaha, you're so dumb taking horse medicine you rube...." Fuck off, NIH.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (PzXaK)
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Before you know it, these people will admit that they had the vaxx planned before the disease was released.
Posted by: Cray Cray at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (T6Rtu)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (42Vb+)
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Lets not forget the media's part in this.. Remember Trump told us to inject bleach and swimming pool chemicals.. Oh and that dangerous Hydroxychloroquine he was trying to get us to use ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (VE6XX)
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Based on the reaction when it first showed up, I believe that they thought it was a bioweapon that got loose.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
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Suppose it had been a bioweapon that got loose. (Thanks, Chinks!)
In that case I think drastic measures would have been in order.
Now a lot of the measures they actually instituted were mere performance theater, God knows, but if they thought it might be a bioweapon on the loose, I understand the impulse to try to do something, however ineffective it might be.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:17 PM (lTGtQ)
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Suppose it had been a bioweapon that got loose. (Thanks, Chinks!)
In that case I think drastic measures would have been in order.
Now a lot of the measures they actually instituted were mere performance theater, God knows, but if they thought it might be a bioweapon on the loose, I understand the impulse to try to do something, however ineffective it might be.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (ItAg0)
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326 I read that the videos of Chinese dropping in the streets etc were 'made for TV' scenes.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (I7b3/)
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That was another enormous clue. Those videos looked so phony and theatrical. I sensed that they were trying to up the hysteria for whatever reason.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (I7b3/)
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That was another enormous clue. Those videos looked so phony and theatrical. I sensed that they were trying to up the hysteria for whatever reason.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (C53IZ)
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Posted by: megthered at February 18, 2025 02:36 PM (J9ZRC)
I never had to use it, but I did have a copy of a religious exemption written by an Imam from some mosque. I was ready to show up to work wearing a niqab if pushed. I knew they’d never challenge a muzzie.
I never had to use it, but I did have a copy of a religious exemption written by an Imam from some mosque. I was ready to show up to work wearing a niqab if pushed. I knew they’d never challenge a muzzie.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (61FSW)
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Was mentioned in the other thread, but I only saw the 2.6% figure, not this new one of 3.1% chance of impact today.
"NASA says the chance of an asteroid hitting Earth in 2032 has risen to 3.1%, up from 2.6% yesterday, the highest risk assessment ever recorded."
https://x.com/NewsWire_US/status/1891927067832295606
In other news, NASA scientists say they'd like to put lots more money into Elon Musk's Mars venture, as long as it can leave for Mars in less than 7 years, and would have lots of room for, oh, I don't know, NASA scientists.
"NASA says the chance of an asteroid hitting Earth in 2032 has risen to 3.1%, up from 2.6% yesterday, the highest risk assessment ever recorded."
https://x.com/NewsWire_US/status/1891927067832295606
In other news, NASA scientists say they'd like to put lots more money into Elon Musk's Mars venture, as long as it can leave for Mars in less than 7 years, and would have lots of room for, oh, I don't know, NASA scientists.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (xCA6C)
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Covid broke a lot of people. To this day I know a number of them who will seek a covid test kit the second they feel under the weather. If they can't find one in a couple hours they're in a panic.
Some even go to the hospital to get tested. Freaking out the whole time.
It's absurd.
Some even go to the hospital to get tested. Freaking out the whole time.
It's absurd.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (Q4IgG)
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"I read that the videos of Chinese dropping in the streets etc were 'made for TV' scenes.
Posted by: Braenyard"
Like all those grainy videos with emergency workers in their bio-hazard emergency suits? Yeah, I was always suspicious about those And that doctor that supposedly disappeared after issuing a video warning about the virus.? That too seemed like BS too.
All part of the creepy "We're All In This Together" campaign.
Posted by: Braenyard"
Like all those grainy videos with emergency workers in their bio-hazard emergency suits? Yeah, I was always suspicious about those And that doctor that supposedly disappeared after issuing a video warning about the virus.? That too seemed like BS too.
All part of the creepy "We're All In This Together" campaign.
Posted by: Ripley at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (GUOwU)
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I read that the videos of Chinese dropping in the streets etc were 'made for TV' scenes.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
Those scared the hell out of me when I first saw them. But then I noticed I'd go three, four days in a row without seeing people fall dead in the streets.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
What happened to all the people welded into their apartments?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
Those scared the hell out of me when I first saw them. But then I noticed I'd go three, four days in a row without seeing people fall dead in the streets.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
What happened to all the people welded into their apartments?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (jfdO+)
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Remdisivir + ventilator. They didn't die from Covid, they died from the treatment.
Posted by: Angel at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (oiJGz)
Exactly
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM
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Yep. Most of them developed pneumonia, and were denied the antibiotics which would have cured them.
Posted by: Angel at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (oiJGz)
Exactly
Posted by: It's me donna at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM
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Yep. Most of them developed pneumonia, and were denied the antibiotics which would have cured them.
Posted by: Bigsmith at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (1Au9i)
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307 So...Berenson points out in his substack that the 'm' in the mRNA shots does not stand for 'messenger', but rather 'MODIFIED' RNA. This is because the uridine base has been exchanged for a pseudouridine base which appears to attenuate the victim's immune response rather than strengthen it against infection.
Posted by: Pete
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The mRNA vaxx was aimed at IGG-4 (same thing as allergy shots are directed) to persuade the body that the spike was harmless so as to not trigger the massive inflammatory response that was believed to be the cause of death. It was never a vaccine in the sense of sterilizing the patient from future infection but was a prophylactic designed to reduce the inflammatory response if and when you were exposed to covid.
There is a new covid vaccine, Novavax, that finally got approval that is the traditional dead/weakened virus type and The Oxford vaxx and Johnson and Johnson used a previously used adrenovirus as a carrier for their spike.
Problem is, the spike is apparently doing a lot of damage to internal organs whether by coagulation type problems (Oxford/J&J) or by a whole variety of problems using mRNA technology.
Posted by: Pete
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The mRNA vaxx was aimed at IGG-4 (same thing as allergy shots are directed) to persuade the body that the spike was harmless so as to not trigger the massive inflammatory response that was believed to be the cause of death. It was never a vaccine in the sense of sterilizing the patient from future infection but was a prophylactic designed to reduce the inflammatory response if and when you were exposed to covid.
There is a new covid vaccine, Novavax, that finally got approval that is the traditional dead/weakened virus type and The Oxford vaxx and Johnson and Johnson used a previously used adrenovirus as a carrier for their spike.
Problem is, the spike is apparently doing a lot of damage to internal organs whether by coagulation type problems (Oxford/J&J) or by a whole variety of problems using mRNA technology.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (ctrM5)
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364 by: Dworkin Barimen at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM (hGlN8
Nope; I don't recall that at all.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (42Vb+)
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Me either.
Nope; I don't recall that at all.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (42Vb+)
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Me either.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (ItAg0)
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I remember Jim Cramer opening his Mad Money show with a full-on rant against those who refused the jab saying they were selfishly, foolishly preventing the economy from reopening.
I don't think he ever walked it back.
Similarly, on Monday before the 2024 election, he opened with a list of stocks that would do well in a Harris administration. As if the fix was in.
I think he should just stick to stocks from now on and leave the social stuff to Larry Kudlow.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue
Cramer is great. His track record rivals Paul Krugman, but in stocks.
I don't think he ever walked it back.
Similarly, on Monday before the 2024 election, he opened with a list of stocks that would do well in a Harris administration. As if the fix was in.
I think he should just stick to stocks from now on and leave the social stuff to Larry Kudlow.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue
Cramer is great. His track record rivals Paul Krugman, but in stocks.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (lTGtQ)
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I'm enough of a self-centered prick to enjoy being right.
I just wish it wasn't always about shit like this.
I just wish it wasn't always about shit like this.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 02:42 PM (gS+d1)
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361 I provided you the Motte and you immediately retreated, twice, to the Bailey.
Trump didn't make a decision to deny you of your Rights. Trump made a decision to rely on those employed in the positions charged with making these guidance proposals/decisions and implemented some of their guidance. He didn't implement ALL, but far too much.
But you insist on framing the argument from the result incurred from bad guidance.
You have a position. I get that. It's not a reasonable one.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (oa1NA)
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You are putting something in my mouth I did not say: that Trump denied rights.
I have said repeatedly that what Trump did was allow the executive branch to operate independently and recommend the revocation of rights. He chose to not shut that down, which then states used as justification to shut down things.
Trump did not directly deny rights (I never made the assertion that he did), but he allowed the environment where it could happen.
He failed covid because he was hoping to manage it well to re-election.
Trump didn't make a decision to deny you of your Rights. Trump made a decision to rely on those employed in the positions charged with making these guidance proposals/decisions and implemented some of their guidance. He didn't implement ALL, but far too much.
But you insist on framing the argument from the result incurred from bad guidance.
You have a position. I get that. It's not a reasonable one.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (oa1NA)
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You are putting something in my mouth I did not say: that Trump denied rights.
I have said repeatedly that what Trump did was allow the executive branch to operate independently and recommend the revocation of rights. He chose to not shut that down, which then states used as justification to shut down things.
Trump did not directly deny rights (I never made the assertion that he did), but he allowed the environment where it could happen.
He failed covid because he was hoping to manage it well to re-election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:42 PM (GBKbO)
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Ok I calmed down but I’m back. I will never forget that dessicated husk of a usurper declaring that those of us who refused the jabb were all killers.
Project much, you dried up piece of Delaware River sludge slime?
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (61FSW)
Even someone with a cursory memory of how a vaccine works should know that if you don't take one, the only person endangered is yourself. Shots don't work by making you unable to spread disease, it makes you able to resist exposures you get. Once peeps started getting three or four cases, the vaccine isn't a vaccine.
Project much, you dried up piece of Delaware River sludge slime?
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (61FSW)
Even someone with a cursory memory of how a vaccine works should know that if you don't take one, the only person endangered is yourself. Shots don't work by making you unable to spread disease, it makes you able to resist exposures you get. Once peeps started getting three or four cases, the vaccine isn't a vaccine.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:42 PM (n7h9X)
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But Were Never Even Designed to Prevent Infections
Do you know how little money there is in preventing or curing disease? Trust us, we've run the numbers!
Do you know how little money there is in preventing or curing disease? Trust us, we've run the numbers!
Posted by: Big Pharma at February 18, 2025 02:42 PM (ZZOOb)
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Well these people may have been pardoned in the USA but not in any other country so they are stuck here. Also still open to State AGs as well as civil suits.
Posted by: Ciampino - they didn't stop? at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (KjLnc)
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Covid broke a lot of people. To this day I know a number of them who will seek a covid test kit the second they feel under the weather. If they can't find one in a couple hours they're in a panic.
Some even go to the hospital to get tested. Freaking out the whole time.
It's absurd.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (Q4IgG)
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Driving to work this morning I saw a kid walking to the bus stop wearing a face mask.
Kid on my block, around 10 years old, has a speech delay problem from wearing the fucking things and being remote for a year.
Some even go to the hospital to get tested. Freaking out the whole time.
It's absurd.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (Q4IgG)
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Driving to work this morning I saw a kid walking to the bus stop wearing a face mask.
Kid on my block, around 10 years old, has a speech delay problem from wearing the fucking things and being remote for a year.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (PzXaK)
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What happened to all the people welded into their apartments?
Posted by: rickb223
Someone should go check on them and see if they are OK.
Posted by: rickb223
Someone should go check on them and see if they are OK.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (lTGtQ)
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I was very lucky that Miss Linda was and is a reader here and in other sensible places int he blogosphere. She didn't fall for the propaganda about the clot shot. True, she'd put on a mask when we went into stores, whereas I'd flash my doctor's note or just plain refuse to do it. But I think she did it just to have less hassle.
I wonder how the ex-Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 would have done with it. She passed on in 2015, so she missed it. I wonder if her mother took the jab, though, or insisted that No. 2's daughter, then about ten years old, take it.
I wonder how the ex-Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 would have done with it. She passed on in 2015, so she missed it. I wonder if her mother took the jab, though, or insisted that No. 2's daughter, then about ten years old, take it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (J2vNu)
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I remember Jim Cramer opening his Mad Money show with a full-on rant against those who refused the jab saying they were selfishly, foolishly preventing the economy from reopening.
I don't think he ever walked it back.
Similarly, on Monday before the 2024 election, he opened with a list of stocks that would do well in a Harris administration. As if the fix was in.
Cramer's wrong so often it's a meme.
I don't think he ever walked it back.
Similarly, on Monday before the 2024 election, he opened with a list of stocks that would do well in a Harris administration. As if the fix was in.
Cramer's wrong so often it's a meme.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (2ocoG)
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Dr. Deborah Birx says she 'knew' COVID vaccines would not 'protect against infection'
The former White House COVID response coordinator downplays vaccine efficacy
By Fox News Staff Fox News
Published July 22, 2022 7:29pm EDT
The former White House COVID response coordinator downplays vaccine efficacy
By Fox News Staff Fox News
Published July 22, 2022 7:29pm EDT
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (RHGPo)
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Remdisivir + ventilator. They didn't die from Covid, they died from the treatment.
Posted by: Angel at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (oiJGz)
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My understanding is that patients are only placed on ventilators as a last resort, when they're clearly circling the bowl.
If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
Posted by: Angel at February 18, 2025 02:35 PM (oiJGz)
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My understanding is that patients are only placed on ventilators as a last resort, when they're clearly circling the bowl.
If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (ItAg0)
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340 Trump knew the danger to the country of not being reelected and so tried to thread the needle as it were. He was not in a position to fire these assholes and maintain the popularity needed for reelection and many of us knew it at the time. Despite alternately propping him up, he *did* eventually take on Fauci pretty early in 2020 and pushed hard for things the media deemed "unacceptable" like opening the country by Easter.
As we all know Trump *was* reelected in 2020, his biggest failure being not stopping the cheat.
Posted by: ...
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This.
He was in no position to understand that the advice he was given was bad (he did have a lot of other things to do an unlike many of us, was not spending hours scanning medical data) nor was he in a position to stick his neck out and be the only guy in DC saying no lockdowns, no jab, etc.
If anything, the whole situation showed that Trump can go along with the "experts" in areas where they *should* know more. In reality, he went along with experts way too much in the first term and was not the unbending buffoon the Left claimed he was.
As we all know Trump *was* reelected in 2020, his biggest failure being not stopping the cheat.
Posted by: ...
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This.
He was in no position to understand that the advice he was given was bad (he did have a lot of other things to do an unlike many of us, was not spending hours scanning medical data) nor was he in a position to stick his neck out and be the only guy in DC saying no lockdowns, no jab, etc.
If anything, the whole situation showed that Trump can go along with the "experts" in areas where they *should* know more. In reality, he went along with experts way too much in the first term and was not the unbending buffoon the Left claimed he was.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (baIR6)
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Chance of 'city-killer' asteroid 2024 YR4 smashing into Earth rises yet again to 3.1%, NASA reports
NASA has increased the chances of asteroid 2024 YR4 hitting Earth in 2032 to 1 in 32, or 3.1%, up from 1 in 42 as reported in previous calculations.
NASA has increased the chances of asteroid 2024 YR4 hitting Earth in 2032 to 1 in 32, or 3.1%, up from 1 in 42 as reported in previous calculations.
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 02:44 PM (RHGPo)
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Even someone with a cursory memory of how a vaccine works should know
Covid and the Covid vaccines refuted themselves.
Covid and the Covid vaccines refuted themselves.
Posted by: t-bird at February 18, 2025 02:44 PM (tvIQJ)
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If it were a bio weapon, that cruise ship should have been a floating morgue.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
Depended what said bioweapon was designed for - a quick kill rate and petering out, or spreading like mad around the world to devastate as many western economies as possible.
Posted by: ...
65+ yr old body with comorbidities is not going to last like a 40 yr old healthy person. Two to three weeks on that ship should have killed more than 11.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
Depended what said bioweapon was designed for - a quick kill rate and petering out, or spreading like mad around the world to devastate as many western economies as possible.
Posted by: ...
65+ yr old body with comorbidities is not going to last like a 40 yr old healthy person. Two to three weeks on that ship should have killed more than 11.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:44 PM (jfdO+)
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Driving to work this morning I saw a kid walking to the bus stop wearing a face mask.
Kid on my block, around 10 years old, has a speech delay problem from wearing the fucking things and being remote for a year.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025
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I still see middle-aged women working at Walmart wearing the damn things. When I see that, I try not to get in that checkout line. On Sunday, though, there were onluy two checkouts, and both staffers wore the face diaper.
Kid on my block, around 10 years old, has a speech delay problem from wearing the fucking things and being remote for a year.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025
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I still see middle-aged women working at Walmart wearing the damn things. When I see that, I try not to get in that checkout line. On Sunday, though, there were onluy two checkouts, and both staffers wore the face diaper.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:44 PM (J2vNu)
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358 Because of work in 2020 I had 2 jabs plus booster, never had covid unless it was early 2019.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (jgmnb)
Similar for me except I never got a booster just the initial two. Our big client was a government contractor and eventually we had to get it to go on site.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:39 PM (n7h9X)
I’ve been on hydroxychloroquine and extra zinc since way before covid.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 02:37 PM (jgmnb)
Similar for me except I never got a booster just the initial two. Our big client was a government contractor and eventually we had to get it to go on site.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:39 PM (n7h9X)
I’ve been on hydroxychloroquine and extra zinc since way before covid.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 02:44 PM (jgmnb)
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But I'm thinking that this will be one of the latest attempts for get Trump scenario. "He was responsible: Blame him. He approved a speed up for it."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 18, 2025 02:45 PM (Yd+J6)
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>>> Some even go to the hospital to get tested. Freaking out the whole time.
It's absurd.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (Q4IgG)
Lots of people got addicted to getting out of work, staying at home, not seeing other people, scrolling their phone in front of TV. They still crave that life.
It's absurd.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 18, 2025 02:41 PM (Q4IgG)
Lots of people got addicted to getting out of work, staying at home, not seeing other people, scrolling their phone in front of TV. They still crave that life.
Posted by: banana Dream at February 18, 2025 02:45 PM (Y6IkP)
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"She admitted that she lied about the risks of covid in order to achieve the Bureaucrat's Dream of forcing people to do what the bureaucrat demands they do."
and she is keeping the $300K in BigPharma kickbacks.
and she is keeping the $300K in BigPharma kickbacks.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 18, 2025 02:45 PM (Cus5s)
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Even someone with a cursory memory of how a vaccine works should know
I found my infant/childhood vaccine records.
I saw where I received two smallpox vaccines. I guess I'm missing the other 8 boosters.
I found my infant/childhood vaccine records.
I saw where I received two smallpox vaccines. I guess I'm missing the other 8 boosters.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:46 PM (jfdO+)
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323 I have not seen any evidence that the vaxxed had milder cases. They aren't comparing themselves to the unvaxxed; they are comparing themselves to how sick they imagine they could have been if they hadn't gotten jabbed.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM
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It's an unbased comparative. How sick would you have been if you hadn't had the jab?
No way of knowing. One point - you can draw any straight line you want through it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (ItAg0)
My point exactly. I have noticed these vaxxed people have had more Covid cases, and more severe symptoms than myself and my unvaxxed friends.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM
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It's an unbased comparative. How sick would you have been if you hadn't had the jab?
No way of knowing. One point - you can draw any straight line you want through it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (ItAg0)
My point exactly. I have noticed these vaxxed people have had more Covid cases, and more severe symptoms than myself and my unvaxxed friends.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:46 PM (Sf2cq)
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SMOD, Jr. has goals.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 02:46 PM (gS+d1)
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Pretty sure my sister who recently died of cancer got a couple of the chinese shots
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 02:46 PM (WIRXc)
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They/them lied they/them asses off about the vaxx.
But you can totes trust they/them about masks!!!!!
But you can totes trust they/them about masks!!!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 18, 2025 02:46 PM (Vqx30)
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"299 Heya, we’re reacting to the admission, not the truth about the vax. But thanks for stopping by to imply we’ve been asleep for 3 years.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (Hkcdp)
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Yeah, this place was on the bleeding edge of hard truths from [at the risk of "crossing the memes"] Day Zero & Ground One.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (7VJFP)"
I stand by my point. It's mostly been years of complaining about masks or "seeing what they can get people to comply with" with near zero mention of the actual big news.
At the start here the general consensus was "this is all overblown, just turn off the TV and it goes away", and "it's just fear mongering" at a time only a few were warning that this was deliverate and malicious.
The smoking guns on virus engineering popped up in mid 2020 and the DEFUSE grant docs got passed around in, if I recall, Jan 2021. We are far beyond who made it and how for both the virus and the shots - the ongoing exposure now is the regulatory fraud and fraudulent safety studies/data
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 02:25 PM (Hkcdp)
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Yeah, this place was on the bleeding edge of hard truths from [at the risk of "crossing the memes"] Day Zero & Ground One.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:30 PM (7VJFP)"
I stand by my point. It's mostly been years of complaining about masks or "seeing what they can get people to comply with" with near zero mention of the actual big news.
At the start here the general consensus was "this is all overblown, just turn off the TV and it goes away", and "it's just fear mongering" at a time only a few were warning that this was deliverate and malicious.
The smoking guns on virus engineering popped up in mid 2020 and the DEFUSE grant docs got passed around in, if I recall, Jan 2021. We are far beyond who made it and how for both the virus and the shots - the ongoing exposure now is the regulatory fraud and fraudulent safety studies/data
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:46 PM (Wgfgn)
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AMZ stopped selling NAC, as did other retailers. Vitamin Shoppe never stopped. I stockpiled NAC until it went back on the global market.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (61FSW)
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Trump did not directly deny rights (I never made the assertion that he did), but he allowed the environment where it could happen.
He failed covid because he was hoping to manage it well to re-election.
The funny part is it would've worked except for the "most elaborate cheating apparatus ever assembled" - Joe Biden.
He failed covid because he was hoping to manage it well to re-election.
The funny part is it would've worked except for the "most elaborate cheating apparatus ever assembled" - Joe Biden.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (2ocoG)
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Lots of people got addicted to getting out of work, staying at home, not seeing other people, scrolling their phone in front of TV. They still crave that life.
Posted by: banana Dream
I got addicted to remote work. Not having to drive to the office.
Posted by: banana Dream
I got addicted to remote work. Not having to drive to the office.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (jfdO+)
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Anyone remember that cocksucker Navy "captain" who openly defied Orders to embarrass the President?
Remember his whole ship was supposebly "infected" or something and he pretended to be a hero by pretending to "protect" his crew?
Anyone remember that cocksucker Navy "captain" who openly defied Orders to embarrass the President?
Remember his whole ship was supposebly "infected" or something and he pretended to be a hero by pretending to "protect" his crew?
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (jv3tj)
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I wonder how much Seka charges these days to see her cooch? My Company Commander was yuge Seka fan.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (pLaQB)
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Now a lot of the measures they actually instituted were mere performance theater, God knows, but if they thought it might be a bioweapon on the loose, I understand the impulse to try to do something, however ineffective it might be.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (ItAg0)
A good bioweapon kills quickly, so you can hit a unit and drop them before they can get care. Not much point of just giving the people with A bombs the sniffles.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (ItAg0)
A good bioweapon kills quickly, so you can hit a unit and drop them before they can get care. Not much point of just giving the people with A bombs the sniffles.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (n7h9X)
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389 Chance of 'city-killer' asteroid 2024 YR4 smashing into Earth rises yet again to 3.1%, NASA reports
NASA has increased the chances of asteroid 2024 YR4 hitting Earth in 2032 to 1 in 32, or 3.1%, up from 1 in 42 as reported in previous calculations.
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 02:44 PM (RHGPo)
At the current rate of increase of impact probability, in six or seven months the impact probability will be 99.9 percent.
NASA has increased the chances of asteroid 2024 YR4 hitting Earth in 2032 to 1 in 32, or 3.1%, up from 1 in 42 as reported in previous calculations.
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 02:44 PM (RHGPo)
At the current rate of increase of impact probability, in six or seven months the impact probability will be 99.9 percent.
Posted by: Gref at February 18, 2025 02:48 PM (aBgBM)
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If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
But they were put on ventilators because it was easier for the hospital staff, not because it was helpful to patient.
Another shoe to drop -- the FDA set up protocols and they were insane. They required gowning up and degowning between each patient and having them all isolated. This is stupid in an epidemic as they all have the same disease. The FDA refused to adjust those protocols so the hospitals took a shortcut of putting patients on ventilators (filtered exhaled air) so they did not have to gown up.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
But they were put on ventilators because it was easier for the hospital staff, not because it was helpful to patient.
Another shoe to drop -- the FDA set up protocols and they were insane. They required gowning up and degowning between each patient and having them all isolated. This is stupid in an epidemic as they all have the same disease. The FDA refused to adjust those protocols so the hospitals took a shortcut of putting patients on ventilators (filtered exhaled air) so they did not have to gown up.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:48 PM (baIR6)
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I hope Ace posts on the bizarre fight between the governor of NY and mayor of NYC. Left on left infighting and its weird as hell.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2025 02:48 PM (2VST1)
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I got addicted to remote work. Not having to drive to the office.
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I went to the office throughout just to get out of the house.
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I went to the office throughout just to get out of the house.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (pLaQB)
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On Sunday, though, there were onluy two checkouts, and both staffers wore the face diaper.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
I think some retail workers you might see wearing masks now are those recovering from our coming down with coughs & colds.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
I think some retail workers you might see wearing masks now are those recovering from our coming down with coughs & colds.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (WIRXc)
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I got addicted to remote work. Not having to drive to the office.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025
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I began to realize how much I hated my commute. It was an easy step from that to thinking about "It's time to retire."
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025
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I began to realize how much I hated my commute. It was an easy step from that to thinking about "It's time to retire."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (J2vNu)
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Think how many people had to die alone in a hospital bed because of COVID protocols.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (PzXaK)
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Was in the ER Sunday, and the doc asked me if I had a current flu vaccine. He distinctly did not ask about a covid jab. That stark difference was music to my ears after being forced to take one for a cancer surgery in NoVA.
And who was welded into apartments? Was that here in the US????
And who was welded into apartments? Was that here in the US????
Posted by: Moki at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (wLjpr)
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Got an email this week from my hospital provider talking about the rise in heart attacks in people 40 and under.
Good thing it has nothing to do with the shot that crazy people were saying it would cause heart attacks for people 40 and under.
I can never forgive the branch covidians.
Good thing it has nothing to do with the shot that crazy people were saying it would cause heart attacks for people 40 and under.
I can never forgive the branch covidians.
Posted by: Cray Cray at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (T6Rtu)
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NIH and CDC employees had lucrative do-nothing consulting contracts with drug companies. Drug companies made $millions on subsidized vaccination for very low-risk populations (children, otherwise healthy adults under age 50 or so). Lockdowns, which imposed enormous costs on the population, promoted the panic that justified the mass vaccination.
Let us not forget that US government agencies likely subsidized the creation of the Wuhan coronavirus.
Let us not forget that US government agencies likely subsidized the creation of the Wuhan coronavirus.
Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (fgkXD)
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400 Pretty sure my sister who recently died of cancer got a couple of the chinese shots
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 02:46 PM (WIRXc)
Sincere condolences, vmom.
I care for a disabled brother and wouldn’t let him get the coof jabb. Recently I found out he got a couple jabbs that are on the schedule, flu and something else. I think they are also mRna based.
There’s only so much a loving sibling can do.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 02:46 PM (WIRXc)
Sincere condolences, vmom.
I care for a disabled brother and wouldn’t let him get the coof jabb. Recently I found out he got a couple jabbs that are on the schedule, flu and something else. I think they are also mRna based.
There’s only so much a loving sibling can do.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (61FSW)
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404 Trump did not directly deny rights (I never made the assertion that he did), but he allowed the environment where it could happen.
He failed covid because he was hoping to manage it well to re-election.
The funny part is it would've worked except for the "most elaborate cheating apparatus ever assembled" - Joe Biden.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (2ocoG)
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Also, not enough people realized how much deception was going at first. It took a while for the light to dawn on many.
He failed covid because he was hoping to manage it well to re-election.
The funny part is it would've worked except for the "most elaborate cheating apparatus ever assembled" - Joe Biden.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (2ocoG)
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Also, not enough people realized how much deception was going at first. It took a while for the light to dawn on many.
Posted by: Just Lily at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (EY5xj)
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On Sunday, though, there were onluy two checkouts, and both staffers wore the face diaper.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
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I think some retail workers you might see wearing masks now are those recovering from our coming down with coughs & colds.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025
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Maybe so.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
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I think some retail workers you might see wearing masks now are those recovering from our coming down with coughs & colds.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025
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Maybe so.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (J2vNu)
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"65+ yr old body with comorbidities is not going to last like a 40 yr old healthy person. Two to three weeks on that ship should have killed more than 11.
Posted by: rickb223"
I'm convinced those passengers were quarantined in order to get a high death rate to help spread the panic. They were only released when it was clear that wasn't going to happen.
Posted by: rickb223"
I'm convinced those passengers were quarantined in order to get a high death rate to help spread the panic. They were only released when it was clear that wasn't going to happen.
Posted by: Ripley at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (GUOwU)
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I want a fun post now like mark Hamill's pants falling down or something
I don't want to remember what they did to us
I don't want to remember what they did to us
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (Pv3Rg)
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I went to the office throughout just to get out of the house.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (pLaQB)
Same
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (pLaQB)
Same
Posted by: Scarf Whore at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (NtVYv)
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Until only 11 old people died on the Diamond Princess Cruise Ship out of 3200 people.
If it were a bio weapon, that cruise ship should have been a floating morgue.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
I don’t think it was a bioweapon, but there was research done by governments many years pre-covid which came to the conclusion something like covid-19 would be an ideal weapon.
See, if you release a weapon that kills 50%, you’re going to unite that country and they are going to come back at you.
A minor respiratory virus can do trillions in economic damage, turn people against their governments, destroy public trust, and it’s all plausibly deniable. Without a huge death toll, using nukes in retaliation is out of the question.
The reason I don’t think it’s a bioweapon is because there’s a clear line of funding from NIH to EcoHeath Alliance to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And it was pretty clear they were studying SARS-like viruses for the purposes of creating vaccines.
If it were a bio weapon, that cruise ship should have been a floating morgue.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
I don’t think it was a bioweapon, but there was research done by governments many years pre-covid which came to the conclusion something like covid-19 would be an ideal weapon.
See, if you release a weapon that kills 50%, you’re going to unite that country and they are going to come back at you.
A minor respiratory virus can do trillions in economic damage, turn people against their governments, destroy public trust, and it’s all plausibly deniable. Without a huge death toll, using nukes in retaliation is out of the question.
The reason I don’t think it’s a bioweapon is because there’s a clear line of funding from NIH to EcoHeath Alliance to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And it was pretty clear they were studying SARS-like viruses for the purposes of creating vaccines.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (l3YAf)
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My understanding is that patients are only placed on ventilators as a last resort, when they're clearly circling the bowl.
If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
There was at least some chatter even fairly early on that patients circling the bowl who were not put on ventilators had better outcomes than ones who were.
If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
There was at least some chatter even fairly early on that patients circling the bowl who were not put on ventilators had better outcomes than ones who were.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (2ocoG)
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I want a fun post now like mark Hamill's pants falling down or something
I don't want to remember what they did to us
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (Pv3Rg)
That shit was funny
I don't want to remember what they did to us
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (Pv3Rg)
That shit was funny
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (NtVYv)
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398 323 I have not seen any evidence that the vaxxed had milder cases. They aren't comparing themselves to the unvaxxed; they are comparing themselves to how sick they imagine they could have been if they hadn't gotten jabbed.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM
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It's an unbased comparative. How sick would you have been if you hadn't had the jab?
No way of knowing. One point - you can draw any straight line you want through it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (ItAg0)
My point exactly. I have noticed these vaxxed people have had more Covid cases, and more severe symptoms than myself and my unvaxxed friends.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:46 PM (Sf2cq)
Buh buh but Joe Biden and every member of the Democrat-Media Complex told me the vaccines saved hundreds of millions of lives in the US alone!
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:19 PM
__________________
It's an unbased comparative. How sick would you have been if you hadn't had the jab?
No way of knowing. One point - you can draw any straight line you want through it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:33 PM (ItAg0)
My point exactly. I have noticed these vaxxed people have had more Covid cases, and more severe symptoms than myself and my unvaxxed friends.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:46 PM (Sf2cq)
Buh buh but Joe Biden and every member of the Democrat-Media Complex told me the vaccines saved hundreds of millions of lives in the US alone!
Posted by: Gref at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (aBgBM)
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>>You are putting something in my mouth I did not say: that Trump denied rights.
"I infringed on your rights to win an election."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
"I infringed on your rights to win an election."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (oa1NA)
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And who was welded into apartments? Was that here in the US????
Posted by: Moki at February 18, 2025
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Mainland China, I think.
And who was welded into apartments? Was that here in the US????
Posted by: Moki at February 18, 2025
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Mainland China, I think.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (2ocoG)
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And who was welded into apartments? Was that here in the US????
Footage from out of China. Whether real or not remains a question.
Footage from out of China. Whether real or not remains a question.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (WPL6O)
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415 Think how many people had to die alone in a hospital bed because of COVID protocols.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (PzXaK)
That was absolutely evil. Neighbor's dad passed that way. He'd had a stroke and was in rehab care, and they began putting covid patients in the rehab center. Of course he got it. And passed away alone.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (PzXaK)
That was absolutely evil. Neighbor's dad passed that way. He'd had a stroke and was in rehab care, and they began putting covid patients in the rehab center. Of course he got it. And passed away alone.
Posted by: Moki at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (wLjpr)
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By the way, see that sidebar piece on 60 minutes' misleading reporting on USAID firings? One of the people they portrayed as a USAID employee is a Samantha Powers speechwriter LOL. CBS News, baby
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (2VST1)
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Thanks Kallisto
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 02:52 PM (WIRXc)
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415 Think how many people had to die alone in a hospital bed because of COVID protocols.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (PzXaK)
Also unforgivable. A family member is haunted to this day that her fear husband had to die alone.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at February 18, 2025 02:49 PM (PzXaK)
Also unforgivable. A family member is haunted to this day that her fear husband had to die alone.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:52 PM (61FSW)
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Nood Ziz.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 02:52 PM (ExV1e)
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They might impeach that Argentina president guy, maybe successfully. All over a shit coin. smh
Posted by: banana Dream at February 18, 2025 02:52 PM (Y6IkP)
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My dog is autoimmune compromised and his vets all say he cannot get any vaccines because they will cause his immune system to go out of control. Why did they want humans who are on transplant lists and who take antirejection meds take a shot like this? Any kind of immune response would be questionable for them.
Posted by: megthered at February 18, 2025 02:53 PM (J9ZRC)
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Off and on one comes across some screed examining "what is the purpose of education?" One purpose which I've never seen examined is "education should develop a reasonably robust B.S. detector." A lot of the "science-deniers" for COVID, for climate catastrophe, for every dietary whim which comes along, for Bureau of Labor statistics, etc. - all these "deniers" truly do have decent B.S. detectors.
Such a thing would also answer the perpetual high-schooler whine of "why do I have to know this stuff? I'll never use it."
Such a thing would also answer the perpetual high-schooler whine of "why do I have to know this stuff? I'll never use it."
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at February 18, 2025 02:53 PM (bufu1)
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"Now a lot of the measures they actually instituted were mere performance theater, God knows, but if they thought it might be a bioweapon on the loose, I understand the impulse to try to do something, however ineffective it might be.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (ItAg0)"
China thought it was an escaped weapon, because they hosted the research thinking they were stealing dual use tech from stupid westerners.
Said westerners knew exactly what the virus was and the actual weapon was the shots. Work on the jabs "officially" started in Dec 2019, but by people who had been engineering the virus since 2015, and who helped delete the Wuhan gene database a week prior, and who are on FOIA'ed emails discussing coverups in October, so who knows how long the jab was actually cooking, at least for now.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:40 PM (ItAg0)"
China thought it was an escaped weapon, because they hosted the research thinking they were stealing dual use tech from stupid westerners.
Said westerners knew exactly what the virus was and the actual weapon was the shots. Work on the jabs "officially" started in Dec 2019, but by people who had been engineering the virus since 2015, and who helped delete the Wuhan gene database a week prior, and who are on FOIA'ed emails discussing coverups in October, so who knows how long the jab was actually cooking, at least for now.
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 02:53 PM (Wgfgn)
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The reason I don’t think it’s a bioweapon is because there’s a clear line of funding from NIH to EcoHeath Alliance to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And it was pretty clear they were studying SARS-like viruses for the purposes of creating vaccines.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
True, we know that now, but when it first appeared, everyone in government not in on that little secret were acting much more concerned.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
True, we know that now, but when it first appeared, everyone in government not in on that little secret were acting much more concerned.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 02:53 PM (lTGtQ)
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My understanding is that patients are only placed on ventilators as a last resort, when they're clearly circling the bowl.
If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (ItAg0)
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Worked with a VA Doctor (older and nearly obese) at a Clinic who got the coof and was treating himself with therapeutics (and oxygen, as his lungs became damaged).
His boss ordered him to go to the VA Medical Center ER, and he refused -- saying "Oh, hell no -- they'll put me on a respirator and kill me."
They fired him, but he saved his own life and lived ...
If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (ItAg0)
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Worked with a VA Doctor (older and nearly obese) at a Clinic who got the coof and was treating himself with therapeutics (and oxygen, as his lungs became damaged).
His boss ordered him to go to the VA Medical Center ER, and he refused -- saying "Oh, hell no -- they'll put me on a respirator and kill me."
They fired him, but he saved his own life and lived ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 02:53 PM (7VJFP)
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If it were a bio weapon, that cruise ship should have been a floating morgue.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
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False. The Chinese are fully capable of designing a bioweapon that fizzles.
They (and much of the world) did not understand how quickly it would adapt to be less harmfull to individuals.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 02:24 PM (jfdO+)
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False. The Chinese are fully capable of designing a bioweapon that fizzles.
They (and much of the world) did not understand how quickly it would adapt to be less harmfull to individuals.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (baIR6)
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Thanks, China makes sense. But the way some were behaving here, it would not be out of the realm of possibility.
Posted by: Moki at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (wLjpr)
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421 On Sunday, though, there were onluy two checkouts, and both staffers wore the face diaper.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
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I think some retail workers you might see wearing masks now are those recovering from our coming down with coughs & colds.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025
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Maybe so.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (J2vNu)
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At the Walmart near me there are two dedicated mask wearing clerks. Male and female, middle-aged. They have studiously worn masks for years now.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
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I think some retail workers you might see wearing masks now are those recovering from our coming down with coughs & colds.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025
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Maybe so.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 02:50 PM (J2vNu)
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At the Walmart near me there are two dedicated mask wearing clerks. Male and female, middle-aged. They have studiously worn masks for years now.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (C53IZ)
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432 And who was welded into apartments? Was that here in the US????
Footage from out of China. Whether real or not remains a question.
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The China videos were part of the plan as well. Please note - the videos were in December while Seattle had already had an out break in September. It was all hype.
Footage from out of China. Whether real or not remains a question.
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The China videos were part of the plan as well. Please note - the videos were in December while Seattle had already had an out break in September. It was all hype.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (pLaQB)
448
I wonder how much Seka charges these days to see her cooch? My Company Commander was yuge Seka fan.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (pLaQB)
It's Laguna Seca now
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (pLaQB)
It's Laguna Seca now
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (NtVYv)
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403 AMZ stopped selling NAC, as did other retailers. Vitamin Shoppe never stopped. I stockpiled NAC until it went back on the global market.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (61FSW)
When word got out that the number one Covid risk was low vitamin D levels, there was a big push to discourage vitamin D supplementation and it was taken out of various "immune support" supplements.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 02:47 PM (61FSW)
When word got out that the number one Covid risk was low vitamin D levels, there was a big push to discourage vitamin D supplementation and it was taken out of various "immune support" supplements.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:56 PM (Sf2cq)
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There is NO SUCH THING as "COVID", and by matter of fact NO VIRUSES EXIST. AT ALL.
You cannot "transmit disease" between people. That has proven to be IMPOSSIBLE.
No "virus" or "bacteria" has ever been proven to be a cause of "disease" or has ever satisfied Koch's postulates. It's all a big Jewish hoax, folks. Just like the holohoax.
You cannot "transmit disease" between people. That has proven to be IMPOSSIBLE.
No "virus" or "bacteria" has ever been proven to be a cause of "disease" or has ever satisfied Koch's postulates. It's all a big Jewish hoax, folks. Just like the holohoax.
Posted by: letmepicyou at February 18, 2025 02:57 PM (vVLey)
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I talked to my primary while it was going on and after. Originally he bought in, like many. Later when it became evident the lethal part was congestion he said that there were several therapeutics on the market to treat that.
So, covid and covid vaccines are moot. It's bull shit. It's a bird flu pandemic. If you get covid there are excellent medicines available, if not restricted by government, for treatment.
So, covid and covid vaccines are moot. It's bull shit. It's a bird flu pandemic. If you get covid there are excellent medicines available, if not restricted by government, for treatment.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 18, 2025 02:58 PM (I7b3/)
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At the Walmart near me there are two dedicated mask wearing clerks. Male and female, middle-aged. They have studiously worn masks for years now.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (C53IZ)
We have one of those at our grocery store. I wonder if he ever wonders how we non-maskers stay healthy.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (C53IZ)
We have one of those at our grocery store. I wonder if he ever wonders how we non-maskers stay healthy.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:58 PM (Sf2cq)
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False. The Chinese are fully capable of designing a bioweapon that fizzles.
They (and much of the world) did not understand how quickly it would adapt to be less harmfull to individuals.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (baIR6)
The virus was designed China, though. It was designed in the US. The research was moved to China to avoid Federal bans on gain-of-function research.
They (and much of the world) did not understand how quickly it would adapt to be less harmfull to individuals.
Posted by: Gentlemen, Please, please, it's too much winning! at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (baIR6)
The virus was designed China, though. It was designed in the US. The research was moved to China to avoid Federal bans on gain-of-function research.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at February 18, 2025 02:58 PM (l3YAf)
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My understanding is that patients are only placed on ventilators as a last resort, when they're clearly circling the bowl.
If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (ItAg0)
That's probably wrong given the mad panic to get ventilators all over the world at the start, and hoarding.
They nearly broke up the EU when Germany hid theirs and Italy was out begging for more.
A little while later they stopped the ventilator and deaths dropped like a stone and they started the "death with COVID" scam to keep the money flowing to hospitals, which started to have no patients.
Over the next months some hospitals admitted that up to 40 percent of claimed deaths were not COVID at all...like a motorcycle accident.
If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (ItAg0)
That's probably wrong given the mad panic to get ventilators all over the world at the start, and hoarding.
They nearly broke up the EU when Germany hid theirs and Italy was out begging for more.
A little while later they stopped the ventilator and deaths dropped like a stone and they started the "death with COVID" scam to keep the money flowing to hospitals, which started to have no patients.
Over the next months some hospitals admitted that up to 40 percent of claimed deaths were not COVID at all...like a motorcycle accident.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 02:58 PM (n7h9X)
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Fauci's covid-era familiar. Burn them both at the stake!
Posted by: wishful thinking at February 18, 2025 02:59 PM (w6EFb)
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I'm sorry to say that I have murderous trannies on my bingo card.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 18, 2025 03:00 PM (w6EFb)
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What really pisses me off is how we who choose not to get the shot were treated.
Hubby and I are old and chose not getting the shot. We sat in our house for two and a half years alone because no one wanted to risk us getting sick.
What really pisses me off is how we who choose not to get the shot were treated.
Hubby and I are old and chose not getting the shot. We sat in our house for two and a half years alone because no one wanted to risk us getting sick.
Posted by: fourseasons at February 18, 2025 03:01 PM (3ek7K)
458
389 Chance of 'city-killer' asteroid 2024 YR4 smashing into Earth rises yet again to 3.1%, NASA reports
NASA has increased the chances of asteroid 2024 YR4 hitting Earth in 2032 to 1 in 32, or 3.1%, up from 1 in 42 as reported in previous calculations.
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 02:44
Two possibilities on this, first is an op to scare people, second is it really might happen. I think it’s an op.
NASA has increased the chances of asteroid 2024 YR4 hitting Earth in 2032 to 1 in 32, or 3.1%, up from 1 in 42 as reported in previous calculations.
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 02:44
Two possibilities on this, first is an op to scare people, second is it really might happen. I think it’s an op.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 03:01 PM (jgmnb)
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We have one of those at our grocery store. I wonder if he ever wonders how we non-maskers stay healthy.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:58 PM (Sf2
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I wonder the same thing about them.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:58 PM (Sf2
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I wonder the same thing about them.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 18, 2025 03:01 PM (C53IZ)
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When word got out that the number one Covid risk was low vitamin D levels, there was a big push to discourage vitamin D supplementation and it was taken out of various "immune support" supplements.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:56 PM (Sf2cq)
my previous doctor had me taking all kinds of Vitamin D. like 20000 whatevers. Wonder if that helped. I never got Covid. I have my own throat quirks.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 18, 2025 02:56 PM (Sf2cq)
my previous doctor had me taking all kinds of Vitamin D. like 20000 whatevers. Wonder if that helped. I never got Covid. I have my own throat quirks.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 03:02 PM (n7h9X)
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New thread up morons!
Those of you engaged in cage match fighting…time to collect your winnings and move on…
Those of you engaged in cage match fighting…time to collect your winnings and move on…
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 03:04 PM (KVyKK)
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Posted by: fourseasons at February 18, 2025 03:01 PM (3ek7K)
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That is so upsetting and disheartening to hear. I am so sorry you two had to put up with that kind of treatment.
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That is so upsetting and disheartening to hear. I am so sorry you two had to put up with that kind of treatment.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 18, 2025 03:05 PM (C53IZ)
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No "virus" or "bacteria" has ever been proven to be a cause
No, no, you have it all wrong. Flu viruses, which are not alive, spend each summer mutating into one new worldwide version. And yet, for all the mutations at 10,000 times the rate of living organisms, they always cause the same symptoms and have yet to develop opposable thumbs.
No, no, you have it all wrong. Flu viruses, which are not alive, spend each summer mutating into one new worldwide version. And yet, for all the mutations at 10,000 times the rate of living organisms, they always cause the same symptoms and have yet to develop opposable thumbs.
Posted by: t-bird at February 18, 2025 03:06 PM (Ez0wT)
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"The China videos were part of the plan as well. Please note - the videos were in December while Seattle had already had an out break in September. It was all hype.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (pLaQB)"
The chinese govt was in a genuine panic.
Now go read the FOIA'd NIH emails and see how at that same period they were busy preparing to hide any links to the EcoHealth work. This was the same time frame NIH/CDC worked to spread it around as much as possible by curtailing surveilance, and while they allowed the "don't be racist, go to chinatown and hug strangers" campaigns as they observed china freaking out (more china freakout info is coming in the near future, btw)
The chinese were used by EcoHealth. EcoHealth at all but the highest levels were used by whoever malevolently engineered the vax. CDC/NIH worked hard to engineer a pandemic.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 02:54 PM (pLaQB)"
The chinese govt was in a genuine panic.
Now go read the FOIA'd NIH emails and see how at that same period they were busy preparing to hide any links to the EcoHealth work. This was the same time frame NIH/CDC worked to spread it around as much as possible by curtailing surveilance, and while they allowed the "don't be racist, go to chinatown and hug strangers" campaigns as they observed china freaking out (more china freakout info is coming in the near future, btw)
The chinese were used by EcoHealth. EcoHealth at all but the highest levels were used by whoever malevolently engineered the vax. CDC/NIH worked hard to engineer a pandemic.
Posted by: heya at February 18, 2025 03:06 PM (Wgfgn)
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And who was welded into apartments? Was that here in the US????
Footage from out of China. Whether real or not remains a question.
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While they are certainly capable of faking it, they are also capable of massive overreaction against the chance it is a mass killer. One of their first moves was getting the infection into Europe via Italy so everyone would go together.
Much later Xi used Covid Measures to trap and wipe out a power bloc in Shanghai in the Party.
Footage from out of China. Whether real or not remains a question.
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While they are certainly capable of faking it, they are also capable of massive overreaction against the chance it is a mass killer. One of their first moves was getting the infection into Europe via Italy so everyone would go together.
Much later Xi used Covid Measures to trap and wipe out a power bloc in Shanghai in the Party.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 03:06 PM (n7h9X)
466
Get a rope.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2025 03:06 PM (FCbAQ)
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I’m supposed to feel sorry when I see people posting about necessary workers being fired or let go due to DOGE, when self same people didn’t care a bit about all those fired for not taking the shot.
Posted by: Paisley at February 18, 2025 03:06 PM (ny1NG)
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Chance of 'city-killer' asteroid 2024 YR4 smashing into Earth rises yet again to 3.1%, NASA reports
NASA has increased the chances of asteroid 2024 YR4 hitting Earth in 2032 to 1 in 32, or 3.1%, up from 1 in 42 as reported in previous calculations.
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 02:44
Two possibilities on this, first is an op to scare people, second is it really might happen. I think it’s an op.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 03:01 PM (jgmnb)
I guess I question the numbers since these same people have no idea what 90+ percent of all the stuff in the Universe is... except in the solar system itself where there is no Dark Matter, Energy or Dark Table Salt.
Sceptical that we know the forces and position and velocity with sufficient accuracy to see 5 hears ahead or whatever.
NASA has increased the chances of asteroid 2024 YR4 hitting Earth in 2032 to 1 in 32, or 3.1%, up from 1 in 42 as reported in previous calculations.
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 02:44
Two possibilities on this, first is an op to scare people, second is it really might happen. I think it’s an op.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2025 03:01 PM (jgmnb)
I guess I question the numbers since these same people have no idea what 90+ percent of all the stuff in the Universe is... except in the solar system itself where there is no Dark Matter, Energy or Dark Table Salt.
Sceptical that we know the forces and position and velocity with sufficient accuracy to see 5 hears ahead or whatever.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 03:10 PM (n7h9X)
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My understanding is that patients are only placed on ventilators as a last resort, when they're clearly circling the bowl.
If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (ItAg0)
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Hospitals allowed no early treatment options such as Ivermectin. They waited until they were seriously ill before they treated them. The government incentive was $1000 for each patient on Remdisivir, $12,000 for each patient on a ventilator.
If so, it's not surprising that such patients had a high mortality rate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2025 02:43 PM (ItAg0)
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Hospitals allowed no early treatment options such as Ivermectin. They waited until they were seriously ill before they treated them. The government incentive was $1000 for each patient on Remdisivir, $12,000 for each patient on a ventilator.
Posted by: Angel at February 18, 2025 03:10 PM (oiJGz)
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Shit, most of the management and about half of the commentariat of this here Smart Military Blog were calling for the heads of those of us who resisted the virtually untested gene therapy.
Mistakes Were Made
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM
I'm quite sure you're full of shit with this statement.
Mistakes Were Made
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at February 18, 2025 02:26 PM
I'm quite sure you're full of shit with this statement.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)
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I’m supposed to feel sorry when I see people posting about necessary workers being fired or let go due to DOGE, when self same people didn’t care a bit about all those fired for not taking the shot.
Posted by: Paisley at February 18, 2025 03:06 PM (ny1NG)
Government work is a privilege not a right. And even a small sample size tells you many are wildly incompetent at their jobs.
Posted by: Paisley at February 18, 2025 03:06 PM (ny1NG)
Government work is a privilege not a right. And even a small sample size tells you many are wildly incompetent at their jobs.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 18, 2025 03:11 PM (n7h9X)
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429 >>You are putting something in my mouth I did not say: that Trump denied rights.
"I infringed on your rights to win an election."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (oa1NA)
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This was obviously intended satirically.
"I infringed on your rights to win an election."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (oa1NA)
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This was obviously intended satirically.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 03:15 PM (GBKbO)
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The Atlantic: "How COVID Pushed a Generation of Young People to the Right"
Posted by: Angel at February 18, 2025 03:16 PM (oiJGz)
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I just dropped three f-bombs in a row reacting to this clip in front of my 18 year old son who encouraged me to "keep going, mom." He had to live in the dystopia she ushered in while wearing her ohsofashionable, ubiquitous scarves. How dare she!
Posted by: NAB at February 18, 2025 03:23 PM (3sHsl)
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What none of these fuckers has EVER explained is how giving something that is DANGEROUS and DOESN'T WORK is a great idea for "old people"???
Well, it dovetails with their mass killing of "Useless Eaters" in the nursing homes in 2020....
Evil bastards.
Well, it dovetails with their mass killing of "Useless Eaters" in the nursing homes in 2020....
Evil bastards.
Posted by: Beverly at February 18, 2025 03:34 PM (Epeb0)
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If you haven't heard (and there's a media blackout on this), the FDA was sued by Aaron Siri et al., and a judge issued an order for them to release the Pfizer clinical trial papers for the C19 shots.
They wanted to wait 75 years (!) but the judge said Hellnoway, you're doing it in 10 months!
Naomi Wolf talks about the pit of vipers this disclosure uncovered. (Be sure to have a barf bucket handy.)
https://tinyurl.com/The-Pfizer-Papers
They wanted to wait 75 years (!) but the judge said Hellnoway, you're doing it in 10 months!
Naomi Wolf talks about the pit of vipers this disclosure uncovered. (Be sure to have a barf bucket handy.)
https://tinyurl.com/The-Pfizer-Papers
Posted by: Beverly at February 18, 2025 03:39 PM (Epeb0)
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Team scarf!
Team scarf!
Posted by: As Rush named her at February 18, 2025 03:39 PM (DobEs)
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One thing about this "reduces the severity of disease" claim:
Prove it.
Think about it -- how could you ever prove such a claim? YOU CAN'T.
Prove it.
Think about it -- how could you ever prove such a claim? YOU CAN'T.
Posted by: Beverly at February 18, 2025 03:40 PM (Epeb0)
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My company (ad agency) first told us they would NEVER force us to get the jab.
Then they said we had to have it to go into the office (by this time, I'd moved out of state and was working remotely).
Then the HR guy called. "I just want to ask about your Vaccine Status," he cooed (fuck HIPAA, obviously).
"I work 800 miles away. The co. still wants me to get the shot?"
"I'm afraid so."
"In that case, I'll need an exemption form."
(long silence...then) "Well, I SUPPOSE, since you're working remotely, we don't have to have you do it. But you won't be allowed to come into the office, and you won't be allowed to attend the Winter Party... "
IOW, in their case, they were bluffing. Assholes.
Then they said we had to have it to go into the office (by this time, I'd moved out of state and was working remotely).
Then the HR guy called. "I just want to ask about your Vaccine Status," he cooed (fuck HIPAA, obviously).
"I work 800 miles away. The co. still wants me to get the shot?"
"I'm afraid so."
"In that case, I'll need an exemption form."
(long silence...then) "Well, I SUPPOSE, since you're working remotely, we don't have to have you do it. But you won't be allowed to come into the office, and you won't be allowed to attend the Winter Party... "
IOW, in their case, they were bluffing. Assholes.
Posted by: Beverly at February 18, 2025 03:50 PM (Epeb0)
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More and more coming out on the flu vaccine.
It may have immunity side effects we didn't know about. I'm not sure we should be vaccinating this many people.
It may have immunity side effects we didn't know about. I'm not sure we should be vaccinating this many people.
Posted by: Black JEM at February 18, 2025 03:59 PM (GZYu7)
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Jail
Posted by: 8675310 at February 18, 2025 04:10 PM (CGFll)
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If one reads RFK's The Real Anthony Fauci, they will find her and Redfield? Were both to be court martialed for saying they had cured AIDS....They were to confess they had lied, and were to be let off without punishment or being court martialed if they told the truth and lied about curing AIDS at a huge medical lecture they were attending on the subject. BUT THEY DID JUST THE OPPOSITE, AND BRAGGED ABOUT THEMSELVES AND ADDED ONTO THE LIES ABOUT CURING AIDS, NEVER ONCE MENTIONING A THING ABOUT THEIR DECEPTION AND LIES. AND NOTHING EVER HAPPENED TO THEM
Posted by: Jonboy at February 18, 2025 04:23 PM (UcozG)
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473 The Atlantic: "How COVID Pushed a Generation of Young People to the Right"
Posted by: Angel
That's a weird way to spell "morgue".
Posted by: Angel
That's a weird way to spell "morgue".
Posted by: Bombadil at February 18, 2025 07:30 PM (MX0bI)
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If all of this is true why in God's name is Pfizer still promoting it in ads? Why is the federal government still pushing it for people below 60? The damage, death, etc. she and Fraud Fauci did to the Citizens of this Country should earn them a sentence of losing every penny they have in every asset and then sentenced to death. They knowingly VIOLATED the Nuremberg ethics. Also, ALL of the pharmaceutical companies should lose their liability exemption because they committed fraud!
Posted by: Grandpa at February 18, 2025 07:37 PM (s+AsP)
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