New York City 1899 Open Thread

Color added, of course.

Posted by: Ace at 04:25 PM

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1 First.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:27 PM (wZ2Bf)

2 I nooded

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 26, 2024 04:27 PM (MsrgL)

3 Premature Cafe launch?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 26, 2024 04:28 PM (PiwSw)

4 Sound added too.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 26, 2024 04:28 PM (4/G7t)

5 Happy Boxing Day!

Posted by: JQ at December 26, 2024 04:28 PM (YoCnN)

6 testing 1 2 3

Posted by: DanMan at December 26, 2024 04:28 PM (8uzBS)

7 why did joe biden bring a ladder to the bar?

he heard the drinks were on top of the house

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 26, 2024 04:28 PM (CWTWj)

8 Yeah I kept posting incomplete cafes

Posted by: Ace at December 26, 2024 04:28 PM (KRtlO)

9 I refuse to believe NY City was ever that clean. It must be AI.

Posted by: Flyguy at December 26, 2024 04:29 PM (HA1lM)

10 So supposedly the break between Daily Wire and Brett Cooper was over Israel.

In case anyone cares about that.

I've been curious about it.

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2024 04:29 PM (iziT8)

11 Hi ace!

Merry New Year!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 26, 2024 04:29 PM (m+Iyu)

12 I love these videos. Thank you, Ace!

Posted by: Piper at December 26, 2024 04:29 PM (pZEOD)

13 1 First.
Posted by: Boss Moss at

Told you that you could have first for Christmas!

Posted by: Piper at December 26, 2024 04:30 PM (pZEOD)

14 Those were big German Shepherds in the disappeared poat.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 26, 2024 04:30 PM (hoCmQ)

15 and to all those who celebrate kwaanza, who are you kidding

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 26, 2024 04:31 PM (CWTWj)

16 Did the have color film in 1899?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:31 PM (wZ2Bf)

17 I was made to be a Gibson girl. I would love to have dressed like this!

Posted by: Piper at December 26, 2024 04:31 PM (pZEOD)

18 Kwaanza hookers are the best.

No yellow.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at December 26, 2024 04:32 PM (paSBy)

19 "That's all!"

Posted by: Annette Hanshaw at December 26, 2024 04:32 PM (iODuv)

20 Anna Puma, can you do a Steampunk Snake Plissken?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 26, 2024 04:32 PM (PiwSw)

21 River and her German Shepherds are gone.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:32 PM (wZ2Bf)

22 "and to all those who celebrate kwaanza, who are you kidding
Posted by: gnats local 678"

Who was that goofball who made the "Kwanzaa cake?"

Lee?

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2024 04:33 PM (iziT8)

23 as per twitchy:

Kamala: "I grew up celebrating Kwanzaa"

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 26, 2024 04:33 PM (CWTWj)

24 Plus ca change...

Posted by: Scottst at December 26, 2024 04:33 PM (yjKqP)

25 Kwanzaa started in 1966.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:34 PM (wZ2Bf)

26 There was less shit on the streets despite all the horses

Posted by: steevy at December 26, 2024 04:34 PM (KQk9m)

27 1899? Those buildings in the opening shot looked taller than the Flatiron Building.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 26, 2024 04:35 PM (Dm8we)

28 Yeah I kept posting incomplete cafes
Posted by: Ace at December 26, 2024 04:28 PM (KRtlO)

A proper cafe requires a thick pall of Galois smoke.

Or rioters

youtu.be/wp84sRpM1Js

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2024 04:35 PM (D7oie)

29 23 as per twitchy:

Kamala: "I grew up celebrating Kwanzaa"
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 26, 2024 04:33 PM (CWTWj)

Also Kamala: "I grew up attending a Black Baptist Church."

Wait, that might not actually be a contradiction..

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 26, 2024 04:35 PM (PiwSw)

30 I would love to have dressed like this!
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For men, it would be easy and cheap to dress up now. Thrift stores have nice sport coats for $5. Expensive ties are under a dollar.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 26, 2024 04:36 PM (paSBy)

31 and to all those who celebrate kwaanza, who are you kidding
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 26, 2024 04:31 PM (CWTWj)

*glares in Sheriff*

Posted by: Harris County Sheriff's Office at December 26, 2024 04:36 PM (Aqu9a)

32 The thing about 1899 is that it really was a year on the cusp of modernity. Coming into a new century, there was already piped gas, electricity existed, the internal combustion engine existed, the telephone existed, etc. These things were still largely primitive, but enterprising young people could see that the future was going to be so much easier and more comfortable than it had been for their ancestors. And then a few years later powered flight was invented. Heady times.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 26, 2024 04:36 PM (KAi1n)

33 Now, in Smell-o-Vision!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 26, 2024 04:36 PM (RIvkX)

34 "Plus ca change...
Posted by: Scottst "

Keep it.

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2024 04:36 PM (iziT8)

35 >>>River and her German Shepherds are gone.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:32 PM (wZ2Bf)
******
That was a sweet video, especially the one GSD that took on the role as protector and walked along with River.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 26, 2024 04:37 PM (vJ3Tl)

36 Those streets are way too clean.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 26, 2024 04:37 PM (Rcnd3)

37 Ask AI to show NYC as a clean and crime-free city and the AI will crash.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 26, 2024 04:37 PM (Q4IgG)

38 Hmm, Canadian horde members, is Boxing Day a thing in Canada or it that strictly England? I'm thinking Harris family might have celebrated a few boxing days when they lived there during her teens.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 26, 2024 04:37 PM (UKUm3)

39 I bought a three piece for $3.75 at Goodwill.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:38 PM (wZ2Bf)

40 Hmm, Canadian horde members, is Boxing Day a thing in Canada or it that strictly England? I'm thinking Harris family might have celebrated a few boxing days when they lived there during her teens.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 26, 2024 04:37 PM (UKUm3)

If so, would it be nice to include a kangaroo boxing video in the Cafe tonight?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 26, 2024 04:38 PM (VNX3d)

41 Day one.

Leading Report@LeadingReport
BREAKING: Trump to restore White House Diet Coke button as Bidens move out, per DailyMail.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 26, 2024 04:39 PM (L/fGl)

42 Back in the days when almost everyone, including the poor, conducted themselves as respectable citizens. No tats, no piercings, no twerking, no yoga pants.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2024 04:39 PM (xCA6C)

43 Three Piece Suit that is.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:40 PM (wZ2Bf)

44 Can you get a vid of the Lower West Side? I'd love to see if the Ramrod was in existence then, and if not, just where did all the crossdressers and fairies hang out?

Posted by: The Great Poof at December 26, 2024 04:41 PM (G5+As)

45 You can't tell me that lady didn't know the sidewalk grate wasn't going to blow air up her skirt.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 26, 2024 04:42 PM (3wi/L)

46 Those streets are way too clean.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 26, 2024 04:37 PM (Rcnd3)

The city and neighborhoods actually paid people to clean the streets. One of the reason everything is so crappy and cheap now is because since 1899 and today the dollar has lost 99% of its spending power to inflation, and wages have not kept up to it. We are poorer today than we were then, and the "excess spending" that we get taxed for is far greater than it is today.
I was looking at pictures and film of 1950's Havana thinking it was terrible what has been done to Cuba, and then I realized that pretty much the same thing has been done to the US as well. We just have access to newer models of cars

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2024 04:42 PM (D7oie)

47 I saw an old colorised video like this taken in England at a similar time. Everyone in the street was wearing a suit and it was fairly hot out that day.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:43 PM (wZ2Bf)

48 Color added, of course.

You just made the list.

Posted by: RFK Jr, banninating the artificial colors at December 26, 2024 04:43 PM (DgGvY)

49 "You can't tell me that lady didn't know the sidewalk grate wasn't going to blow air up her skirt.
Posted by: Dr. Claw"

Probably staged. But cute.

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2024 04:43 PM (iziT8)

50 I was made to be a Gibson girl. I would love to have dressed like this!
Posted by: Piper

*fist bump*

Incidentally, my sisters and I got Gibson Girls tattoos this fall. Just text for family reasons. Since then I've been wondering about getting a Gibson girl illustration tat... maybe.

Posted by: She Hobbit at December 26, 2024 04:43 PM (ftFVW)

51 When I see colorized pieces like this it always creeps me out. Just knowing that EVERYONE (including the kids) in this video is dead is bizarre. I don't get the same feeling watching old time black and white offerings...but the colorization seems to close the time gap.

Does that make sense?

Posted by: Orson at December 26, 2024 04:44 PM (dIske)

52 I bought a three piece for $3.75 at Goodwill.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:38 PM (wZ2Bf)

Locally they go for between $15 and $25, but you have to be picky on the fabric and cut.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2024 04:45 PM (D7oie)

53 I think there are a least two kinds of Gibson Girls. Gibson made refrigerators, too, so a squat, substantial women with no waist could also be a Gibson Girl. Some hail from Guatemala.

Posted by: William Perry at December 26, 2024 04:45 PM (G5+As)

54 Nice to see folks dressed to the nines.

One young man has forsworn the modern pajamafication of society and wears Regency (among other eras):

https://tinyurl.com/5wtcrvy4

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 26, 2024 04:45 PM (kpS4V)

55 Coulter recently put out a article on Kwanzaa and Kamala's claim to have celebrated it.

"The esteemed Cal State professor's (FBI stooge Karenga) invented holiday (Kwanzaa) is a nutty blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism. The seven principles of Kwanzaa are identical to those of the Symbionese Liberation Army, another invention of The Worst Generation."

Posted by: illiniwek at December 26, 2024 04:46 PM (Cus5s)

56 50 I was made to be a Gibson girl. I would love to have dressed like this!
Posted by: Piper

*fist bump*

Incidentally, my sisters and I got Gibson Girls tattoos this fall. Just text for family reasons. Since then I've been wondering about getting a Gibson girl illustration tat... maybe.
Posted by: She Hobbit

Oh my gosh, you absolutely are made for this! We should bring it back.

Posted by: Piper at December 26, 2024 04:46 PM (pZEOD)

57 I saw an old colorised video like this taken in England at a similar time. Everyone in the street was wearing a suit and it was fairly hot out that day.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:43 PM (wZ2Bf)

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It's wild seeing old video and photos of people -- mostly men -- watching professional baseball games outdoors in summer, and all wearing suits & usually hats.

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 26, 2024 04:46 PM (MGUf8)

58 50 I was made to be a Gibson girl. I would love to have dressed like this!
Posted by: Piper

*fist bump*

Incidentally, my sisters and I got Gibson Girls tattoos this fall. Just text for family reasons. Since then I've been wondering about getting a Gibson girl illustration tat... maybe.
Posted by: She Hobbit at December 26, 2024 04:43 PM (ftFVW)

I have a family photo from about 1904 with all the young ladies in full white dress, and all the boys with celluloid collars. My grandfather has hid leg sticking out of the side to show that he was old enough to wear long pants.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 04:47 PM (K861k)

59
How can anyone find anything to praise in this? There was no EPA, no Federal Reserve, senators were elected by state legislatures, immigrants had to be healthy and show they wouldn't be a burden on the public purse and only men 21 and older could vote. A backwards nation!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 04:47 PM (dxSpM)

60 One thing I see when looking at old movies , everyone is dressed very nicely

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2024 04:47 PM (fwDg9)

61 Incidentally, my sisters and I got Gibson Girls tattoos this fall. Just text for family reasons. Since then I've been wondering about getting a Gibson girl illustration tat... maybe.
Posted by: She Hobbit at December 26, 2024 04:43 PM (ftFVW)

There's some wry humor in those CharlesDanaGibson illustrations. Any one in particular?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 26, 2024 04:48 PM (kpS4V)

62 Yesterday Don Surber showed a photo from 1852 that showed a guy that was 103 years old. He was born in 1749, served in Washington's army and is the first American born person ever photographed.

Posted by: DanMan at December 26, 2024 04:48 PM (8uzBS)

63 Nice to see folks dressed to the nines.

One young man has forsworn the modern pajamafication of society and wears Regency (among other eras):

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos

Wouldn't call it the nines, but... my oldest little hobbit has taken to dressing up for school on Wednesdays. Usually a button up, slacks, and dress shoes. It encourages my hope for the future.

Posted by: She Hobbit at December 26, 2024 04:48 PM (ftFVW)

64
My grandfather has hid leg sticking out of the side to show that he was old enough to wear long pants.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 04:47 PM (K861k)

_________

That's the age men should stop wearing shorts.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 04:48 PM (dxSpM)

65 My favorite Gibson Girl is Lita Ford. She rocks those Les Paul Customs. Voice of an Angel too.

Posted by: Reforger at December 26, 2024 04:49 PM (xcIvR)

66 I always wore collared shirts and slacks when I worked in the office, not for any real reason other than it was nice to dress well.
I would wear a sports coat from time to time, too.

The shirts would wear out when the collar started looking tatty, so I got in the habit of taking the collars off, and no one ever noticed. I could get an extra year or two of wear out of those shirts.

I almost never wore ties though, since I really dislike ties.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2024 04:49 PM (D7oie)

67
Does that make sense?

Posted by: Orson

Absolutely. I was mildly wierded out by the HBO show They Will Never Grow Old.

*just got Max/HBO to watch A Christmas Story yesterday. I'll have to see if that special is still available and watch it again.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 26, 2024 04:49 PM (MsrgL)

68 Even teenagers have coat and ties on.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2024 04:50 PM (fwDg9)

69 >I saw an old colorised video like this taken in England at a similar time. Everyone in the street was wearing a suit and it was fairly hot out that day.
----

proving once again that only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the noonday sun

Posted by: Don Black at December 26, 2024 04:50 PM (/7KEl)

70 There is an old church a ways from here in the hill country with pictures of members on the wall from a hundred years ago. Everyone is thin and well dressed.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:50 PM (wZ2Bf)

71 Shocking lack of diversity... SHOCKING

Posted by: Life of Wryly at December 26, 2024 04:51 PM (1FWWQ)

72 Back in the days when almost everyone, including the poor, conducted themselves as respectable citizens. No tats, no piercings, no twerking, no yoga pants.
Posted by: Archimedes

Some smart guy said that in a healthy society, the lower classes imitate the upper classes while in an unhealthy society, the upper classes imitate the lower classes. Guess which we are.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 26, 2024 04:51 PM (L/fGl)

73 When I see colorized pieces like this it always creeps me out. Just knowing that EVERYONE (including the kids) in this video is dead is bizarre. I don't get the same feeling watching old time black and white offerings...but the colorization seems to close the time gap.

Does that make sense?

I have exactly the same response. It's almost as if we expect people from that era to speak in tongues and have two heads.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2024 04:52 PM (xCA6C)

74
The guys get hats!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 04:52 PM (dxSpM)

75 OSHA needs to track down the descendants of every one of those steelworkers and collect fine$ plus interest for all their safety violations!

Posted by: Rex B at December 26, 2024 04:53 PM (A75H2)

76 41 Day one.

Leading Report@LeadingReport
BREAKING: Trump to restore White House Diet Coke button as Bidens move out, per DailyMail.

I think I would like it more if he just shouted 'Diet coke!' like Tom Cruise (playing Les Grossman) in 'Tropic Thunder' did.

I'd transfer in former FIB managers to work in the White House to respond to the Diet Coke calls. I would make receiving their retirement contingent on the timely delivery of said Diet cokes.

Posted by: Nelly at December 26, 2024 04:53 PM (bcr4y)

77 Some smart guy said that in a healthy society, the lower classes imitate the upper classes while in an unhealthy society, the upper classes imitate the lower classes. Guess which we are.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 26, 2024 04:51 PM (L/fGl)

If the ultra rich or powerful pretend to be "jes' folks" it means they owe no real concern to the less fortunate, or the people they screwed over to get ultra rich.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2024 04:53 PM (D7oie)

78 There's some wry humor in those CharlesDanaGibson illustrations. Any one in particular?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos

Not yet, could just be a passing fancy but fun to think about.

Posted by: She Hobbit at December 26, 2024 04:54 PM (ftFVW)

79 65 My favorite Gibson Girl is Lita Ford. She rocks those Les Paul Customs. Voice of an Angel too.
Posted by: Reforger

Poison Ivy rocked a 1958 Gretsch hollow body 6120. Wonderful tone. Also used by Atkins and Duane Eddy.

Posted by: The Cramps Fanboy at December 26, 2024 04:54 PM (G5+As)

80 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 26, 2024 04:45 PM (kpS4V)

Thanks; I like the clothing and he seems like a nice and creative fellow

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2024 04:54 PM (L1fFl)

81 Shouldn't that be "photos of color?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 26, 2024 04:54 PM (YqDXo)

82 I assume they edited out the part where that guy wrestled that lady down by her neck and then set her alight, the NYC Way.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 26, 2024 04:55 PM (BI5O2)

83 How can anyone find anything to praise in this? There was no EPA, no Federal Reserve, senators were elected by state legislatures, immigrants had to be healthy and show they wouldn't be a burden on the public purse and only men 21 and older could vote. A backwards nation!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

And gender assumptions were common!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 26, 2024 04:55 PM (L/fGl)

84 I've watched that vid like 5 times.
It's not passing my BS sniffer.
I have to call staged in the modern era. Possible AI.

Probable AI.

Posted by: Reforger at December 26, 2024 04:55 PM (xcIvR)

85 Back in the days when almost everyone, including the poor, conducted themselves as respectable citizens. No tats, no piercings, no twerking, no yoga pants.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2024 04:39 PM (xCA6C)

Whew!
Good thing you stopped that list. For a second there I was thinking you were going to include sports bras.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2024 04:55 PM (W/lyH)

86 Speaking of another era, I watched the '70's movie "The Silent Partner" (excellent) which was set in a mall in Toronto (the Essex). Man, malls used to be an experience!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 26, 2024 04:56 PM (kpS4V)

87 76
'I would make receiving their retirement contingent on the timely delivery of said Diet cokes.'

Garnish a small portion of their retirement and transfer to the cost and upkeep of the wall. List the person as a patron on a plaque.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 26, 2024 04:56 PM (3wi/L)

88 I'm rich as hell. DH just brought me a lovely Bloody Mary, I'm looking out my office window on my garden covered with snow, the birch trees are looking lovely while a very light snow is falling, the dogs are napping after a nice jaunt around our very long block, and in about three hours it will be dark and I can go sit in the hot tub. On New Years Eve we will celebrate our 27th anniversary.

Money is not the measure of wealth. Not in this household.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 04:56 PM (K861k)

89
There were a lot of things that sucked back then.

There are a lot of things that suck now.

Those things aren't the same.

But they're about equal in their suckitude.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 04:57 PM (dxSpM)

90 I am totally perplexed how 20o years ago 5 layers of clothing were worn every day of the year including top coat.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2024 04:57 PM (fwDg9)

91 Whew!
Good thing you stopped that list. For a second there I was thinking you were going to include sports bras.

On rare occasions, humanity progresses.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2024 04:58 PM (xCA6C)

92 Y'know who handed out free tattoos?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 26, 2024 04:58 PM (GSHbq)

93 " I am totally perplexed how 20o years ago 5 layers of clothing were worn every day of the year including top coat.
Posted by: Skip"

Builds character.

Posted by: eleven at December 26, 2024 04:58 PM (iziT8)

94

Here's a Gibson Girl

https://t.ly/7qvlE

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 26, 2024 04:59 PM (63Dwl)

95 Coke Zero vs Diet Coke? What's the diff?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:59 PM (wZ2Bf)

96 I am totally perplexed how 20o years ago 5 layers of clothing were worn every day of the year including top coat.
Posted by: Skip

It was 1PM before the B.O. got to the top layer, so everyone could keep their lunch down?

Posted by: mikeski at December 26, 2024 04:59 PM (DgGvY)

97 I recall reading somewhere, likely here... that prior to the invention of the elevator, your station in the big cities revolved around how low a floor you could afford. The penthouse was for the peasants.craxy how technology flipped that

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at December 26, 2024 04:59 PM (dEYSD)

98 I am totally perplexed how 20o years ago 5 layers of clothing were worn every day of the year including top coat.

Posted by: Skip

Clearly, global warming has raised temperatures by a good 40 degrees since then.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 26, 2024 05:00 PM (6DCVr)

99 But they're about equal in their suckitude.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 04:57 PM (dxSpM)

Expectations have risen along with ease of accomplishment. Used to take all day Monday to do the laundry, and nobody expected the ironing to happen until the next day, and everything needed ironing. From a hot stove with an unpowered iron.

My mother remembered that from childhood and once she had a washer and dryer, she never washed anything by hand nor did she iron anything that could "hang out."

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 05:00 PM (K861k)

100 You don't see shit because there was a constant and large crew of guys with wheeled cans and brooms picking it up. You can see one following the circus parade in the Peabody cartoons. They loaded it onto barges and dropped it in the bay. There were a lot of horse carcasses, though, and that was an industry to itself. Especially in the summer, it was normal for horses to be worked to death.

Those (often Studebaker) water wagons with sprinklers, that are assumed to be keeping the dust down, really had an acid solution to kill germs on the street. May have worked somewhat, but it was mostly about the smell.

There was a heat wave in 1896, and Kipling was there to write about the folly of wearing thick wool suits -- while he sat in 'tropical' silk shorts under an umbrella on the hotel roof. He did not expect New York to survive.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 26, 2024 05:00 PM (zdLoL)

101 I recall reading somewhere, likely here... that prior to the invention of the elevator, your station in the big cities revolved around how low a floor you could afford. The penthouse was for the peasants.craxy how technology flipped that

I suppose the truly rich could hire a team of men to carry them up the stairs in a sedan chair.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2024 05:00 PM (xCA6C)

102 Coke Zero vs Diet Coke? What's the diff?
Posted by: Boss Moss

Diet Coke was made with the flavor of New Coke. Coke Zero is an attempt at sugarless Coca-Cola Classic.

Posted by: She Hobbit at December 26, 2024 05:01 PM (ftFVW)

103 One of the failings of NYC is that only unionized city employees pick up residential trash and "clean" the streets. Restaurants and construction, demolition debris, is picked up by private carter's, who are immensely more efficient.(Though MAFIA-run, at least historically).
The featherbedding, waste, laziness of the NYC Sanitation Department is legendary. "Back" and other injuries are rampant and milked to the max. NYC being a one-party town has made it worse. I left in 1988 and never looked back.

Posted by: Fugitive From Board of Mental Health at December 26, 2024 05:02 PM (G5+As)

104 95 Coke Zero vs Diet Coke? What's the diff?

https://is.gd/AAueR3

Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2024 05:02 PM (xCA6C)

105 98 I am totally perplexed how 20o years ago 5 layers of clothing were worn every day of the year including top coat.

Posted by: Skip

Clearly, global warming has raised temperatures by a good 40 degrees since then.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 26, 2024 05:00 PM (6DCVr)

Nope. Antiperspirant and deodorant were invented. Until that, you changed your shirt and undershirt daily, but you may have only had one suit of clothes.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 05:02 PM (K861k)

106 For those who'd like to see military equipment today, in the hands of Carrie Fisher:

https://youtu.be/xggMwkGnbhw

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 26, 2024 05:02 PM (VNX3d)

107 and people didn't bathe every day

just a bit of the old 'how's your father' and off you went

Posted by: Don Black at December 26, 2024 05:02 PM (/7KEl)

108 Afternoon.

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2024 05:03 PM (NDwud)

109 Didn't see anyone on fire in that video. Didn't see homeless all over the place. Didn't see deranged people roaming the street.
NYC has definitely gone downhill

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 26, 2024 05:03 PM (URPU1)

110 Sanitation Department also plows and does snow removal-poorly.

Posted by: Fugitive From Board of Mental Health at December 26, 2024 05:03 PM (G5+As)

111
Best thing from 1899? No New York Yankees.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 05:04 PM (dxSpM)

112 Posted by: Fugitive From Board of Mental Health at December 26, 2024 05:02 PM (G5+As)

The mob had a hand in it to.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 26, 2024 05:05 PM (D6PGr)

113 Evelyn Nesbit was a Gibson Girl. She was the lady at the heart of the matter in the Stanford White shooting at Madison Square Garden.

Vanity Fair's headline was "Stanford White, Voluptuary and Pervert, Dies the Death of a Dog"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 26, 2024 05:05 PM (BI5O2)

114 107 and people didn't bathe every day

just a bit of the old 'how's your father' and off you went
Posted by: Don Black at December 26, 2024 05:02 PM (/7KEl)

My grandmother expected everyone to "wash" every day, which isn't the same as showering or actual bathing. And women wore "dress shields" which they changed out inside their armpits daily or more often to keep the sweat from damaging the fabric. Different world.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 05:05 PM (K861k)

115 Vanity Fair's headline was "Stanford White, Voluptuary and Pervert, Dies the Death of a Dog"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 26, 2024 05:05 PM (BI5O2)

Honorary moron? At least the voluptuary part. Not the pervert bit. Although...

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 05:06 PM (K861k)

116 Best thing from 1899? No New York Yankees.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Hey, buddy, gimme a call when the Astros have won 27 World Series. I'll be waitin' a while.

Posted by: Carmine From the Bronx at December 26, 2024 05:07 PM (G5+As)

117 Money is not the measure of wealth. Not in this household.
Posted by: tcn in AK

You have all the riches in the world.

Good for you! It certainly wasn't a cake walk, but you made it. Please enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 26, 2024 05:07 PM (/eUJf)

118 I saw an episode of Food That Built America about the hot dog. I couldn't imagine eating them when they were first offered.

And America became exceptional because everyone would try to build the 'better mousetrap' .

Thank God.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 26, 2024 05:07 PM (D6PGr)

119 Also, while shirts and such were laundered, most outer wear was "aired," because laundering it would make it nearly unwearable without tons of attention by an iron and resewing a bunch. Ick.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 05:08 PM (K861k)

120 I really enjoy the restored videos. :-)

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, feather duster the next at December 26, 2024 05:09 PM (NFX2v)

121 Good for you! It certainly wasn't a cake walk, but you made it. Please enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 26, 2024 05:07 PM (/eUJf)

No triumphalism here--I want everyone to feel like this. I pray daily for that, for everyone here certainly.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 05:09 PM (K861k)

122
Hey, buddy, gimme a call when the Astros have won 27 World Series. I'll be waitin' a while.
Posted by: Carmine From the Bronx at December 26, 2024 05:07 PM (G5+As)

_________

1903-1962 World Series wins: 20
1963-2024 World Series wins: 7

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 05:09 PM (dxSpM)

123 The dapper gent wants a zoot suit with a reet pleat:

https://tinyurl.com/4mxh26tc

Mom used to sing this song.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 26, 2024 05:10 PM (kpS4V)

124 Cafe gone poof!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2024 05:10 PM (8zz6B)

125 We got rid of nearly everything, but kept ties? Who’s in charge of this? That would have been the first thing shitcanned if it was up to me.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 26, 2024 05:10 PM (ZBlvI)

126 109 Didn't see anyone on fire in that video. Didn't see homeless all over the place. Didn't see deranged people roaming the street.
NYC has definitely gone downhill
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Used to be, you'd have to go down to the Bowery to visit bums. Down by the docks was sketchy too, but people couldn't sleep in parks or piss in doorways without the cops hauling them in.

Posted by: Carmine From the Bronx at December 26, 2024 05:11 PM (G5+As)

127 Back in the 1980s, a designer name Laura Ashley (among others) designed women's clothing with a decidedly 19th century flair. I loved that look back then, wore it all the time. I still wear those clothes (yes, still have some dresses from the '80s) and have bought others as vintage items. The comments I get are very complementary; a lot of women say, "You look so nice!" I think, "You know, if you wore nice clothes you would look good, too!" The butcher at the grocery store thought I was going to a Christmas party. Nope: I just change out of my sleeping clothes before I go out.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 26, 2024 05:11 PM (3AwA+)

128
staged in the modern era.
Marilyn Monroe skirt lifting subway wind.
Uh huh

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 26, 2024 05:11 PM (GSHbq)

129 My grandfather arrived in NYC from Scotland in 1926 . Went right to work in the tunnels for Con Edison. Eventually retired from them after 50 years.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 26, 2024 05:12 PM (D6PGr)

130 125 We got rid of nearly everything, but kept ties? Who’s in charge of this? That would have been the first thing shitcanned if it was up to me.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Straw hats and spats are set for a big comeback. It's integral to Project 2025.

Posted by: Arbiter of Good Taste at December 26, 2024 05:13 PM (G5+As)

131 Sorry 40 years.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 26, 2024 05:13 PM (D6PGr)

132 Hmm, Canadian horde members, is Boxing Day a thing in Canada or it that strictly England? I'm thinking Harris family might have celebrated a few boxing days when they lived there during her teens.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 26, 2024 04:37 PM (UKUm3)

Definitely a thing in Canada, as long as I can remember. Pretty sure Boxing Day Sales in Canada predated Black Friday sales in the USA.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2024 05:13 PM (8zz6B)

133 If you sew, Folkwear makes a nice Gibson Girl blouse and Walkng Skirt pattern.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 26, 2024 05:13 PM (NQtI0)

134 I love old movies

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2024 05:15 PM (fwDg9)

135 I had a Coke button when I was in the White House.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at December 26, 2024 05:16 PM (NMvV5)

136 50 I was made to be a Gibson girl. I would love to have dressed like this!
Posted by: Piper

Not me. So many layers of clothes, all the time. I like not having to be that encumbered.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 26, 2024 05:16 PM (OX9vb)

137 If you sew, Folkwear makes a nice Gibson Girl blouse and Walkng Skirt pattern.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Ooooooo! Sewing shirts is a PIA, but a skirt would be nice.

Posted by: She Hobbit at December 26, 2024 05:16 PM (ftFVW)

138 I wonder if a guy could get a good Cubano sandwich back then.

Posted by: JUSTIN FROM OTTAWA at December 26, 2024 05:17 PM (oOc/o)

139 It is an odd thing to realize that every single person you see in that movie is dead.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 26, 2024 05:18 PM (bss/y)

140 Bob Gibson played for the Harlem Globetrotters before he became a HOF pitcher for the Cardinals.

Posted by: Tough Guy! at December 26, 2024 05:18 PM (G5+As)

141
I wonder if a guy could get a good Cubano sandwich back then.
Posted by: JUSTIN FROM OTTAWA at December 26, 2024 05:17 PM (oOc/o)

__________

Look at a Delmonico's menu from back then. I'm sure you could find one there.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 05:18 PM (dxSpM)

142 staged in the modern era.
Marilyn Monroe skirt lifting subway wind.
Uh huh
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 26, 2024 05:11 PM (GSHbq)
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Are you saying skirts were impervious to wind prior to that?

It's not being blown up, seems to be a gust of wind moving around the Flatiron building.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:19 PM (ZOv7s)

143 134 I love old movies

Posted by: Skip

Have you seen Promethius?

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 26, 2024 05:19 PM (MsrgL)

144 Brunnhilde, I had a nice Laura Ashley dress, too. Fitted bodice, full skirt. It was pretty. I didn't wear dresses often, but I liked that one.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 26, 2024 05:19 PM (OX9vb)

145 138 I wonder if a guy could get a good Cubano sandwich back then.
Posted by: JUSTIN FROM OTTAWA at December 26, 2024 05:17 PM (oOc/o)

According to the wiki, the time frame is right, but the setting is not. Florida (Tampa for example according to the article.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 26, 2024 05:19 PM (bss/y)

146 I used to wear the newsboy caps or gatsby, depending what you called them, when I went out on the town.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 26, 2024 05:20 PM (D6PGr)

147
...The featherbedding, waste, laziness of the NYC Sanitation Department is legendary. "Back" and other injuries are rampant and milked to the max. NYC being a one-party town has made it worse. ...
Posted by: Fugitive From Board of Mental Health at December 26, 2024 05:02 PM (G5+As)
===
So you've met my Uncle Tony.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 26, 2024 05:21 PM (RIvkX)

148 Youtube has plenty of old city films that someone has taken, cleaned up and colorized. Some even have sound. Saw a pretty good one of Seattle 1926, not too long ago.

Posted by: Rex B at December 26, 2024 05:21 PM (A75H2)

149 >>According to the wiki, the time frame is right, but the setting is not. Florida (Tampa for example according to the article.)

Ybor City. Just north of Tampa.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2024 05:21 PM (LkLld)

150 It is an odd thing to realize that every single person you see in that movie is dead.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 26, 2024 05:18 PM (bss/y)
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The gestures, mugging for the camera, are more of interest to me. Even then, people wanted to photo-bomb.

We aren't any better. Human nature is unchanging, and this notion that we've "progressed" is pure arrogance.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:22 PM (ZOv7s)

151 DMLW,

Yes, that was a VERY popular label back in the '80s and '90s! She even had her own stores in the malls back then.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 26, 2024 05:22 PM (3AwA+)

152 Youtube has plenty of old city films that someone has taken, cleaned up and colorized. Some even have sound. Saw a pretty good one of Seattle 1926, not too long ago.
Posted by: Rex B at December 26, 2024 05:21 PM (A75H2)
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The sound would be dubbed unless it's from the 1930s.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:22 PM (ZOv7s)

153 If you size your collar right and know how to tie a necktie, there is no reason to feel it is trying to kill you. Most professions were able to work in them, right up until the Kool Kidz kvetching about nobody having any standards anymore took over. Those professions included truck drivers, letter carriers, the milkman, surveyors and railroaders, not just doctors and lawyers.

I get a kick out of it when I go somewhere in a modest suit with a tie, and an 80-year old 'rebel' has to tell me all about Senior Skip Day. Great to have a purpose in life, I guess. Real tough guys.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 26, 2024 05:23 PM (zdLoL)

154 Ybor City. Just north of Tampa.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2024 05:21 PM (LkLld)

Little Cuba. Cigar rolling. Great food. Years ago. .

Posted by: Rudolph at December 26, 2024 05:23 PM (8s11j)

155 I lived in a town called Mwanza on the southern shore of Lake Victoria. Wonderful weather, to beat California. Elevation about 4000'. Hot during the day, which time I would spend at the golf club's pool (every town had a golf club - the center of recreational activity). At night slept with a sheet and a light blanket. Didn't need no stinkin' AC.

. Rain only in the rainy seasons (short rains in "Summer" and long rains in "Winter"). Rain mainly after 3PM till 5PM during the short rains.
The school holidays were fabulous except for the shortage of teenagers. When there are 70 - 100 White families, most either toddlers. Older and/or childless adults abounded, so not many kids of the right age.

Posted by: Ciampino - typical colonial milieu of people at December 26, 2024 05:25 PM (i0xsb)

156 If you size your collar right and know how to tie a necktie, there is no reason to feel it is trying to kill you. Most professions were able to work in them, right up until the Kool Kidz kvetching about nobody having any standards anymore took over. Those professions included truck drivers, letter carriers, the milkman, surveyors and railroaders, not just doctors and lawyers.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 26, 2024 05:23 PM (zdLoL)
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Aircrew wore ties.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:25 PM (ZOv7s)

157 The Walking Skirt is very easy to sew. Actually the blouse is too, if you don't do a fancy one. Very comfortable to wear and work in. They also have a pattern for the proper underwear. Not necessary to wear a corset for these to look good.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 26, 2024 05:26 PM (NQtI0)

158 I've been kind of surprised noticing that even in the beginning of the camcorder era 1980 or so, that there were some hams, but most people were really shy, reluctant to be filmed. Now, everyone has their tongue hanging out, at least.

Posted by: Lights! Camera! Action! at December 26, 2024 05:26 PM (G5+As)

159 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daLmiSxog4E

Sleigh Ride video of the Dominicans in Alaska, shows the chapel my husband designed for them, and also Fr. Matthew, whom we believe should probably have become an MMA fighter, but who is a very solid priest. About 25 minutes of cool scenery and other good stuff.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 05:27 PM (K861k)

160 Well, this certainly sends one down the YouTube rabbit hole.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 26, 2024 05:27 PM (7ZQe3)

161 Probably too much to ask for skirts to make a comeback for everyday wear (for women of course, not the pretenders).

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 26, 2024 05:28 PM (fs1hN)

162 I would think being a Flapper would've be more comfortable

Posted by: Don Black at December 26, 2024 05:28 PM (/7KEl)

163 >>Little Cuba. Cigar rolling. Great food. Years ago.

Fun place.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2024 05:28 PM (LkLld)

164 I buy extra long ties so I can pull it out through my fly and clean my glasses.

Posted by: Hollywood Fashion Plate at December 26, 2024 05:28 PM (G5+As)

165
See how happy everyone is Ace's open threads?

We need this on The Weekends.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 26, 2024 05:28 PM (J4gi/)

166 Not really. Harder to squeeze the female form into that flat thin look.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 26, 2024 05:29 PM (NQtI0)

167 And Father Steve is now Bishop Steve of Fairbanks. A very good friend. And of course, I told him he's my favorite bishop.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2024 05:29 PM (K861k)

168 Saw that Caitlin Clark won a female athlete of the year award.
Not surprising or undeserved.
But it should go to Lydia Ko.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 26, 2024 05:30 PM (4780s)

169 We need this on The Weekends.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 26, 2024 05:28 PM (J4gi/)

We have open threads on weekends but we give Ace the weekends off.

Posted by: Emmie at December 26, 2024 05:30 PM (Sf2cq)

170 What would be a sobering vid would be to transition that vid with modern day New York

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 26, 2024 05:30 PM (/6GbT)

171
Aircrew wore ties.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:25 PM (ZOv7s)

__________

I don't purpose to wear them often (church, concerts, stewarding), but if your shirt collar is comfortable then a tie is no great burden.

Stopped to get donuts after church one day and held the door open for a woman around my age. She actually began flirting with me.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 05:30 PM (dxSpM)

172 Chuck,

I do my part. I always wear dresses and skirts, never wear pants unless I am doing yard work. All dresses and skirts are very cinched in at the waist. Makes a flattering silhouette.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 26, 2024 05:31 PM (3AwA+)

173 Aircrew wore ties.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:25 PM (ZOv7s)

? Male pilots and stewards still wear ties on most airlines.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 26, 2024 05:31 PM (BI5O2)

174 I'll bet just getting to second base required scissors and a map.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 26, 2024 05:31 PM (hY4dx)

175 I would think being a Flapper would've be more comfortable
Posted by: Don Black at December 26, 2024 05:28 PM (/7KEl

Except that you have to hang out in toilet tanks.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2024 05:31 PM (8zz6B)

176 Male pilots and stewards still wear ties on most airlines.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 26, 2024 05:31 PM (BI5O2)
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I'm talking about in combat.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:32 PM (ZOv7s)

177 I recall reading somewhere, likely here... that prior to the invention of the elevator, your station in the big cities revolved around how low a floor you could afford. The penthouse was for the peasants.craxy how technology flipped that

I suppose the truly rich could hire a team of men to carry them up the stairs in a sedan chair.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2024 05:00 PM (xCA6C)
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It was true. In the early days of tall residential buildings, the most expensive apartments were on the bottom floors. The invention of elevators, better heating, and water pressure changed that dramatically.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 26, 2024 05:32 PM (QbIsZ)

178 I would think being a Flapper would've be more comfortable
Posted by: Don Black at December 26, 2024 05:28 PM (/7KEl

Except that you have to hang out in toilet tanks.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2024 05:31 PM (8zz6B)

and hang out with the Ty D Bol man.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 26, 2024 05:33 PM (VNX3d)

179 In 1899 the Coke probably still had coke in it.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 05:33 PM (wZ2Bf)

180 Our establishment was a decent place to get a bite to eat, until they started catering to riff-raff in jackets and ties. Located down by the docks.

Posted by: Hesh and Heidi's Nautical Nosh at December 26, 2024 05:34 PM (G5+As)

181 I don't purpose to wear them often (church, concerts, stewarding), but if your shirt collar is comfortable then a tie is no great burden.

Stopped to get donuts after church one day and held the door open for a woman around my age. She actually began flirting with me.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 05:30 PM (dxSpM)
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Every girl's crazy for a sharp-dressed man!

I used to wear ties to work, but since we've come back from Covid, it seems to have gone away. An easy trick to make your tie more comfortable is to leave the top button open, so that the tie holds the collar closed.

Also easier to loosen it if desired (such as dramatic effect when you realize you should have given up amphetimines).

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:34 PM (ZOv7s)

182 I'm talking about in combat.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:32 PM (ZOv7s)

Ah, gotcha, LOL.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 26, 2024 05:35 PM (BI5O2)

183 Back in the days when almost everyone, including the poor, conducted themselves as respectable citizens. No tats, no piercings, no twerking, no yoga pants.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2024 04:39 PM (xCA6C)
_______________

Notice in the video clip that there are no representatives of the twerking demographic. And coincidentally, no one obviously worried about street crime. Go figure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 26, 2024 05:35 PM (YqDXo)

184 Was the thread below stillborn or what?

Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 05:35 PM (PCK5/)

185 179 In 1899 the Coke probably still had coke in it.
Posted by: Boss Moss

You could also buy tincture of opium to quiet your colicky child.

Posted by: Mom of the Year, 1899 at December 26, 2024 05:35 PM (G5+As)

186 Also easier to loosen it if desired (such as dramatic effect when you realize you should have given up amphetimines).
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Or glue-sniffing!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 26, 2024 05:36 PM (kpS4V)

187
Every girl's crazy for a sharp-dressed man!

________

Either that or she was astonished any man would do that nowadays.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2024 05:36 PM (dxSpM)

188 I wore a suit and tie for a number of years. I had worked for a department store chain and purchased discounted suits and ties at the employee only sales. So I was able to wear a different suit and tie to work every week.

Still, I did enjoy going to casual work clothes 20 some years ago. Although, wearing a suit made you aware that you were putting on weight.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 26, 2024 05:37 PM (3Ev2O)

189 135 I had a Coke button when I was in the White House.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at December 26, 2024 05:16 PM (NMvV5)
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Is there Diet Cocaine too?
I guess snow cut with something 'not lactose' ?

Posted by: Ciampino - Florida is the snow capital of the USA at December 26, 2024 05:37 PM (i0xsb)

190 FWP: Speedtest.net rates download speed @ 150Mbs however downloading speeds are rated at Kbs (slow). I can't figure it out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 26, 2024 05:37 PM (5Cy8I)

191 Half of Rodney's act was pulling on his tie.

Posted by: Morty Gunty at December 26, 2024 05:38 PM (G5+As)

192 Notice in the video clip that there are no representatives of the twerking demographic. And coincidentally, no one obviously worried about street crime. Go figure.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 26, 2024 05:35 PM (YqDXo)
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That was when cops were hired for size and brawling ability.

When TR was police commissioner, he had them switch to .32 S&W Long (aka New Colt) because at short range it was quite lethal, had less recoil and cops were more accurate with it.

Someday I want a Colt Police Positive in .32.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:38 PM (ZOv7s)

193 Afternoon/evening, folken,

Yes, somehow we have this idea that the past was all in black-and-white, because most photographs were and movies continued to be B & W until the early Sixties.

The 1899 New York: Many parts like the Lower East Side looked desperately poor, or maybe that's because we know the people there were poor. But Fifth Avenue and Fourteenth Street and the Flatiron Building all looked clean and well kept, and the subway entrance did too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 05:38 PM (omVj0)

194 Plenty of well-mannered people out there these days.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 26, 2024 05:39 PM (kpS4V)

195 The "Battle of the Network Stars" videos were very cool, esp. Jan Smithers. Everybody was so slim --!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 05:41 PM (omVj0)

196 When I was a kid my dad worked for IBM in NYC and like every other guy working for IBM in NYC he got his uniform at Brooks Brothers. Not only were suits absolutely required at all times you could get any color shirt you wanted as long as it was white. And they weren't kidding.

Diversity was not IBM's strength.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2024 05:43 PM (LkLld)

197 In 1899, my house was brand new. It must have been spectacular. Parts of it still are.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 26, 2024 05:43 PM (OX9vb)

198 Wonder what NYC population was, in 1899…

Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 05:43 PM (PCK5/)

199 At the start of my career, I had to wear a suit to work every day. That was a real budgetary magic act for a 22 year-old just trying to figure out how to pay rent each month.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 26, 2024 05:44 PM (mH6SG)

200 My sister married in to some IBMers from Poughkipskie.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 05:44 PM (wZ2Bf)

201 Always thought ties were weird actually. And yes being a military man learned early how to tie one.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2024 05:45 PM (fwDg9)

202 Oldest house we ever owned was built in 1918… hardwood 2x4s, lathe and plaster walls.. plaster infused with horsehair..

Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 05:45 PM (PCK5/)

203 No, I haven't worn a suit in a while. But when Linda and I went to church yesterday, I wore slacks, good shoes, a dress shirt with the collar unbuttoned, and a three-button sport coat I've had for a few years. I wasn't the only one dressed like a grownup, but there were still some with jeans and T-shirts. Clean -- but still, T-shirts.

A black family seated just ahead of us had Mom in a nice dress, Dad in a dress shirt and slacks, the younger boy in a black suit, and the older boy in . . . a red spangled suitcoat that looked like it could have come from an Elton John concert. Oh, well, gotta give 'em points for trying.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 05:46 PM (omVj0)

204 That late sixties plaster was hammer proof.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 05:46 PM (wZ2Bf)

205 You could also buy tincture of opium

Seem to recall Disneyland main street old timey pharmacy had that and tincture of cannabis etc displayed. Probably been sanitized since.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 26, 2024 05:46 PM (EZMtA)

206 If you celebrate Kwanzaa, you ain't black.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 26, 2024 05:46 PM (wBaIH)

207 Too late, tubal, I nooded.

Posted by: Accomack at December 26, 2024 05:46 PM (cIOlQ)

208 Slacks… funny word, slacks..

Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 05:47 PM (PCK5/)

209 >>>And coincidentally, no one obviously worried about street crime. Go figure.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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My aunt, when going to (Big City) college, worked during the day and rode the bus to school in the evening. She would ride the bus downtown then transfer to the one going to the college. College was located in the blackest and one of the most poor neighborhoods in town. There was never a consideration of harm by any of the passengers black or white. Only the very needy or treacherous ride busses there today.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 26, 2024 05:47 PM (5Cy8I)

210 >>At the start of my career, I had to wear a suit to work every day. That was a real budgetary magic act for a 22 year-old just trying to figure out how to pay rent each month.

Me too. My theory is the tech industry helped kill suits.

Once I started working for Bay Area tech companies the suits just faded away. The rest of the world took notice and it was all downhill.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2024 05:48 PM (LkLld)

211 When I was a kid my dad worked for IBM in NYC and like every other guy working for IBM in NYC he got his uniform at Brooks Brothers. Not only were suits absolutely required at all times you could get any color shirt you wanted as long as it was white. And they weren't kidding.

Yeah, I worked alongside a team of IMB CEs and they put my meager wardrobe to shame.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 26, 2024 05:48 PM (mH6SG)

212 My first job in IT, I needed to wear a dress shirt and tie at a minimum, as did my coworkers and boss. Same at my first job in Colorado. Since I wore a suit, I made sure to buy a good dress topcoat, a cashmere/wool blend that I still have and wear. One of the best buys I ever made.

The remaining jobs were more business casual, shirts with collars, no jeans.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 05:49 PM (omVj0)

213 Laudanum.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 26, 2024 05:49 PM (5Cy8I)

214 179 In 1899 the Coke probably still had coke in it.
Posted by: Boss Moss

IBM didn't have many women executives in the 60s and 70s, but they had secretaries. For a few months on Saturdays while in high school, I would assist my Dad, who was a union carpenter, install "modesty panels" on the stairways at IBM buildings all over the tri-state area. Mini-skirt era was in full swing. Formica covered melamine, mostly.

Posted by: Some View! at December 26, 2024 05:49 PM (G5+As)

215 We haz undernood

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 26, 2024 05:50 PM (VNX3d)

216 My dad did 2 years in NYC for IBM before they sent him to Buffalo. He dealt with Linde where he worked with a Michigan grad who had a daughter to marry off.

Posted by: Accomack at December 26, 2024 05:50 PM (cIOlQ)

217 I have a bunch of old (late-1800's) B&W photos of family. A lot of them are in New Orleans, some in the capitol city later on. Almost all of them depict men in suits, many with some sort of hat or cap and women in dresses... again, many with some sort of hat or bonnet.

I think the introduction of "casual" wear in the 50's and 60's put an end to "dressing" like they did way back when.

When I first started to work, professionally in the budding IT field in the 80's it was all shirts and ties. "Dress codes" were a thing.

Until they weren't.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 26, 2024 05:50 PM (Q4IgG)

218 Also easier to loosen it if desired (such as dramatic effect when you realize you should have given up amphetimines).

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:34 PM (ZOv7s)
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With my practiced eye for spotting errors in Chemistry papers and exams, I saw yours. I shall be deducting at least 6 points for mistakenly using imines where the reaction required amines.
I don't even know if the compound amphetimine is active.
There will be another quiz Monday.

Posted by: Ciampino - Don't snort yellow snow at December 26, 2024 05:50 PM (i0xsb)

219 Once I started working for Bay Area tech companies the suits just faded away. The rest of the world took notice and it was all downhill.
Posted by: JackStraw
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The broken windows theory is applicable to more than brick and mortor.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 26, 2024 05:51 PM (5Cy8I)

220 Disney in house ad agency required slacks, no levis. To work in a dark room with easy to spill chemicals. Wasn't there long.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 26, 2024 05:51 PM (8Yuew)

221 The "Battle of the Network Stars" videos were very cool, esp. Jan Smithers. Everybody was so slim --!

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RFK is on to something here. If you look at pics or videos from the 50's, 60's and 70's there are almost no fat people. Just look around now. Half the country is obese.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 26, 2024 05:53 PM (7ZQe3)

222 5 Happy Boxing Day!

Posted by: JQ at December 26, 2024 04:28 PM (YoCnN)
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Hi JQ.
My parents, now long gone, were married on this day in 1940 in Ciampino.

Posted by: Ciampino - also my birthplace at December 26, 2024 05:54 PM (i0xsb)

223 221 The "Battle of the Network Stars" videos were very cool, esp. Jan Smithers. Everybody was so slim --!

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RFK is on to something here. If you look at pics or videos from the 50's, 60's and 70's there are almost no fat people. Just look around now. Half the country is obese.
Posted by: Pete Seria at December 26, 2024 05:53 PM (7ZQe3)

It’s the processed food and the digital age…

Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 05:54 PM (PCK5/)

224 I used to wear the newsboy caps or gatsby, depending what you called them, when I went out on the town.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 26, 2024

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I've got a dark brown tweed driving cap, I guess you'd call it. I wear that if it's chilly and windy, when I'll be outside for a while. It gets old having to hang on to a fedora.

As for fedoras, I have a range of them, the earliest a 1930s Borsalino and the youngest an Akubra Federation, a semi-Indiana Jones style (though in dark gray) that I bought online from a shop near Sydney. I like the older, straight-crowned style that modern hats have lost. And a new Stetson Temple, their broad-brimmed IJ style fedora, costs $175 today, whereas you can buy an Akubra for a lot less.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 05:55 PM (omVj0)

225 When I was a kid my dad worked for IBM in NYC and like every other guy working for IBM in NYC he got his uniform at Brooks Brothers. Not only were suits absolutely required at all times you could get any color shirt you wanted as long as it was white. And they weren't kidding.

Diversity was not IBM's strength.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2024 05:43 PM (LkLld)

At EDS (Perot's IT consulting company), we had the same dress code as IBM. We had to wear our suit jacket when we left our cubes to take a leak or walk over and talk to someone else in another area.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 26, 2024 05:56 PM (3Ev2O)

226 Someday I want a Colt Police Positive in .32.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:38 PM (ZOv7s)

I have a Spanish knock-off in 8mm Lebel pistol. I bought it thinking it was .32 special and I was sad to find it wasn't

Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2024 05:56 PM (D7oie)

227 I had a couple of beautiful Laura Ashley dresses. One was tea length, dark reddish brown with a floral design in the same color threads. I wore the stew out of it to weddings and such. I had a lovely figure then and though it was extremely modest, the guys loved it.

Sometimes not showing the goods is sexier than having your boobs falling out and your cooter showing.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 26, 2024 05:57 PM (grtY7)

228 Patton required his soldier’s to wear a tie in combat theater.

Also $50 fines (base pay for a Private was $21 a month) for out of regulation haircut, etc.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 26, 2024 05:57 PM (2RHvg)

229 RFK is on to something here. If you look at pics or videos from the 50's, 60's and 70's there are almost no fat people. Just look around now. Half the country is obese.
Posted by: Pete Seria at December 26, 2024

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After the Christmas caroling at Linda's church last weekend, we gathered in the cafeteria for some cocoa and cookies. I'd estimate that more than half of the people there were obese. It was such a pleasure to see a few young women (and one or two older ones) and their husbands who were not.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 05:57 PM (omVj0)

230 With my practiced eye for spotting errors in Chemistry papers and exams, I saw yours. I shall be deducting at least 6 points for mistakenly using imines where the reaction required amines.
I don't even know if the compound amphetimine is active.
There will be another quiz Monday.
Posted by: Ciampino - Don't snort yellow snow at December 26, 2024 05:50 PM (i0xsb)
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With my absolute indifference to incidental spelling errors on multi-syllable words, I will be skipping that test.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 05:57 PM (ZOv7s)

231 I like hats, and not just baseball kind

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2024 05:58 PM (fwDg9)

232 So what is the definition of obese??

Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 05:58 PM (PCK5/)

233 So what is the definition of obese??
Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 05:58 PM (PCK5/)

Is that the plural of oboe?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 26, 2024 05:59 PM (VNX3d)

234 Shorpy dot com is a great site for old pics.
Search for "your hometown". They may have 100 year old pics.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 26, 2024 05:59 PM (/lPRQ)

235 The kind of clothes my paternal G-Grandparents wore in the late 19th Century.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 26, 2024 05:59 PM (ynpvh)

236 I graduated HS in 1973, class of 425. There were only maybe 12-15 kids you would say were overweight. One became an opera singer.

Posted by: I was 6'2", 155 at December 26, 2024 05:59 PM (G5+As)

237 233 So what is the definition of obese??
Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 05:58 PM (PCK5/)

Is that the plural of oboe?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 26, 2024 05:59 PM (VNX3d)

Goose -> Geese
Obose -> Obese ?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 26, 2024 06:00 PM (ynpvh)

238 I have a Spanish knock-off in 8mm Lebel pistol. I bought it thinking it was .32 special and I was sad to find it wasn't
Posted by: Kindltot at December 26, 2024 05:56 PM (D7oie)
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I bought a .32 short revolver thinking it was .32 Long because that was IN THE DESCRIPTION. Some might say: "well, there is a visible difference," but the photos did not carry anything that provided scale, just the weapon on a solid background. I contacted the seller, who apologized and agreed to my suggestion that I get a partial refund.

Spanish stuff is fascinating. You buy a 9mm but it's Largo, not Luger.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 06:01 PM (ZOv7s)

239 All you have to do is stop eating carbs. It's not that hard.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 06:01 PM (wZ2Bf)

240 So what is the definition of obese??
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It’s like porn. You know it when you see it

Posted by: Common Tater at December 26, 2024 06:02 PM (2RHvg)

241 Did the have color film in 1899?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:31 PM (wZ2Bf)

No; color film was developed in the late 1930s I believe. I have an old Osprey Publishing book that featured color photos involving a German Panzer division on the Eastern Front. The German officer taking the photographs had a connection to a German film company.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 26, 2024 06:02 PM (pJWtt)

242 Carbs and fat are tasty…

Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 06:02 PM (PCK5/)

243 All you have to do is stop eating carbs. It's not that hard.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024

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EAT LESS AND MOVE AROUND MORE

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 06:02 PM (omVj0)

244 240 So what is the definition of obese??
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It’s like porn. You know it when you see it

Posted by: Common Tater at December 26, 2024 06:02 PM (2RHvg)

Um, rule 34...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 26, 2024 06:02 PM (ynpvh)

245 >>16 Did the have color film in 1899?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 04:31 PM

1902 is the earliest known example of color film, experimental. It was first sold in 1909 and movie fans can tell you the rest of the story.

Posted by: Fozzy at December 26, 2024 06:03 PM (7PM4P)

246 nurse, remember when WDS and BB'sBD wore the 1940's dresses at the MoMe. Classy.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 26, 2024 06:03 PM (XTmTf)

247 234 Shorpy dot com is a great site for old pics.
Search for "your hometown". They may have 100 year old pics.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

The Shorpy perennial 1925 Office Christmas Party is a treasure, just run the other day, as usual.

Posted by: Shorpy Higginbotham at December 26, 2024 06:03 PM (G5+As)

248 So what is the definition of obese??
Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 05:58 PM (PCK5/)
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Visibly fat.

Even in the 80s and into the 90s fat people were rare.

For what it's worth, the students in the current marching band at my alma mater are still lean. Clearly the workout is able to defeat whatever additives are out there.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 06:03 PM (ZOv7s)

249 243 All you have to do is stop eating carbs. It's not that hard.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024

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EAT LESS AND MOVE AROUND MORE
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 06:02 PM (omVj0)

Sage advice… ( as I sit here on my ass shitposting and eating chocolate covered pretzels )…

Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 06:03 PM (PCK5/)

250 I am sure these are computer colored, but still better to see than B&W

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2024 06:04 PM (fwDg9)

251 >>>>And a new Stetson Temple, their broad-brimmed IJ style fedora, costs $175 today, whereas you can buy an Akubra for a lot less.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 05:55 PM (omVj0)
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Thank you Wolfus, I’ve been mulling over getting a real hat, instead of wearing a cap. Akubra looks like a good resource.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 26, 2024 06:04 PM (vJ3Tl)

252 Nurse,

I have probably the same Laura Ashley in a teal blue with a dark teal and gray floral pattern. Puffed shoulders, below knee length, square cut neckline. With a tight rhinestone belt, white stockings, and black Mary Janes, it makes a very nice outfit for shopping, which now that I am retired is my main social experience!

Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 26, 2024 06:04 PM (3AwA+)

253 >>RFK is on to something here. If you look at pics or videos from the 50's, 60's and 70's there are almost no fat people. Just look around now. Half the country is obese.

I don't think it's rocket surgery. There weren't that many Ding Dongs and Ho Hoes in the 1800s. And we were way more active, particularly kids.

We rode our bikes everywhere. We didn't think of it as exercise, it was freedom. The internet changed the world but not always for the good.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2024 06:05 PM (LkLld)

254 What about the music. That swing music was awesome. More like the 20s I guess.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 06:05 PM (wZ2Bf)

255 221 The "Battle of the Network Stars" videos were very cool, esp. Jan Smithers. Everybody was so slim --!

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RFK is on to something here. If you look at pics or videos from the 50's, 60's and 70's there are almost no fat people. Just look around now. Half the country is obese.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 26, 2024 05:53 PM (7ZQe3)
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It is the result of the Food Pyramid and Big Oil**
I never understood how a diabetic patient was supposed to eat all those pasta dishes and all that fruit every day. Can't have protein, o no that would mess up that nice triangle.

We have this terrible fixation on acronyms, clever phrases and titles, and logos/shapes. Once we have one it will not be changed without a fight.

If you eat a glyceride (oil/fat) that the body doesn't know how to readily break down then it does what comes naturally next - storage for a rainy day: fat deposits. We need to go back to animal fats like butter, tallow and lard or non-seed plant oils such as olive oil.

** Big Oil -- seed oils used for cooking and margarine.

Posted by: Ciampino - good grease and bad grease at December 26, 2024 06:06 PM (i0xsb)

256 All you have to do is stop eating carbs. It's not that hard.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 06:01 PM (wZ2Bf)
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No, I'm with RFK on this - something changed. The same foods have different ingredients now.

My kids didn't blimp out because my wife had a gluten sensitivity, and because of the additives, we had to give up processed foods, and instead go with either raw or "canned in water" alternatives.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 06:07 PM (ZOv7s)

257
After the Christmas caroling at Linda's church last weekend, we gathered in the cafeteria for some cocoa and cookies. I'd estimate that more than half of the people there were obese. It was such a pleasure to see a few young women (and one or two older ones) and their husbands who were not.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 05:57 PM (omVj0)

When I went to the Sacramento Air Show two years ago, it puzzled me that the airmen all were seriously buff, but virtually every woman was about 300 lbs.

Not that I'm totally butch or anything, I'm seriously pudgy, but the difference is striking.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 26, 2024 06:07 PM (y9nCu)

258 Ciampino, not a problem for me as butter, lard and olive oil are all I use to cook with. I do use pecan oil for some things.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 26, 2024 06:08 PM (XTmTf)

259
1902 is the earliest known example of color film, experimental. It was first sold in 1909 and movie fans can tell you the rest of the story.

Posted by: Fozzy at December 26, 2024

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There were color films before 1939's Gone With the Wind and Wizard of Oz. The Mysterious Island in 1929, for instance, and 1933's Mystery of the Wax Museum.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 06:09 PM (omVj0)

260 We rode our bikes everywhere. We didn't think of it as exercise, it was freedom. The internet changed the world but not always for the good.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2024 06:05 PM (LkLld)
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Counterpoint: they have done test diets based on 80s levels of activity and the people gain weight because the food has been altered. A few weeks ago there was a video comparing Canadian food with American, and how Canada simply doesn't allow a lot of that crap be be stuffed in there.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 06:10 PM (ZOv7s)

261 246 nurse, remember when WDS and BB'sBD wore the 1940's dresses at the MoMe. Classy.
Posted by: Ben Had

That was so fun!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 26, 2024 06:10 PM (6MCJI)

262 Only modernish black and white movies I cared for… The Last Picture Show and Schindler’s List…

Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 06:11 PM (PCK5/)

263 Ciampino, not a problem for me as butter, lard and olive oil are all I use to cook with. I do use pecan oil for some things.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 26, 2024 06:08 PM (XTmTf)
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A few years back we switched to butter and olive oil. Makes a difference. Food tastes better and is more filling so you eat less.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2024 06:11 PM (ZOv7s)

264 Howdy Hordelings!

Posted by: Doof at December 26, 2024 06:12 PM (mw03C)

265 Thank you Wolfus, I’ve been mulling over getting a real hat, instead of wearing a cap. Akubra looks like a good resource.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 26, 2024

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The company is called The Hattery in Katoomba: https://hatsdirect.com/ Very helpful people via email too. I have a dark grey Fed IV and a light gray one; I had its brim trimmed back by a shop in Detroit. It's easy to shape it yourself, or I think they'll do it for you for a small fee.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 26, 2024 06:12 PM (omVj0)

266 So.. peanut oil.. good or bad?

Posted by: tubal at December 26, 2024 06:12 PM (PCK5/)

267 Posted by: Brunnhilde

I know the very dress you're talking about!

Alas, no puffy sleeves for me. It was empire waist, the traditional Laura Ashley square neckline and fairly straight to just above the ankle. Short capped sleeves.

With pearls and my dark brown hair curled it was perfect.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 26, 2024 06:14 PM (6MCJI)

268 Filler. They do that shit with horse feed. I never feed a pelleted feed because they can add everything from floor sweepings to chicken feathers in it.

There is alot of filler in human foodstuffs too.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 26, 2024 06:14 PM (XTmTf)

269 >>Counterpoint: they have done test diets based on 80s levels of activity and the people gain weight because the food has been altered. A few weeks ago there was a video comparing Canadian food with American, and how Canada simply doesn't allow a lot of that crap be be stuffed in there.

I think it's both. No doubt that processed food is a problem but I also think we have become a more sedentary society.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2024 06:14 PM (LkLld)

270 I've watched that vid like 5 times.
It's not passing my BS sniffer.
I have to call staged in the modern era. Possible AI.

Probable AI.
Posted by: Reforger at December 26, 2024 04:55 PM (xcIvR)

I have some of that footage from the late 1890's on an old 8mm Castle films black and white newsreel I received for Christmas 1958. The footage you are seeing here is digitally slowed down and enhanced for smooth action and, of course, colorized. I have quite a few of the old Castle films in my 8mm library. Digital restoration of these old films is truly amazing. Right down to removing any damage caused by of improper storage. A former broadcast engineering colleague I've known for many years, works for a company that not only does digital transferring of old film, but complete restoration. I have stopped by a few times just to watch the process at work. Lots and lots of time involved by very specialized people.

Posted by: Annette Hanshaw at December 26, 2024 06:15 PM (iODuv)

271 Bacon grease is the best. After it hardens on the plate I scoop it up with a spoon.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2024 06:15 PM (wZ2Bf)

272 262 Only modernish black and white movies I cared for… The Last Picture Show and Schindler’s List…
Posted by: tubal

You left out A Hard Days Night 1964. Next year Help! was in color. And not as good.

Posted by: He's a Clean Old Man... at December 26, 2024 06:15 PM (G5+As)

273 Here's that Seattle 1926 video. Tried to shorten the link but most sites want you to register or pay a fee.

https://youtu.be/EVKZht2Krxg?si=HhKzHg8oy3-5WZNk

Posted by: Rex B at December 26, 2024 06:22 PM (A75H2)

274 Posted by: Rex B at December 26, 2024 06:22 PM (A75H2)

Rex B: You can delete the question mark from the EweTube link, and everything after it, and the link will still direct you to the correct video.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 26, 2024 06:24 PM (VNX3d)

275 Nurse,

Yes, yes! I know the Empire waisted LAs! I bet you did look really good with dark curls. For some reason, my mind's eye envisions Empire cut dresses on dark haired women.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 26, 2024 06:25 PM (3AwA+)

276 Nood Pilot & Bear

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 26, 2024 06:28 PM (VNX3d)

277 ** Big Oil -- seed oils used for cooking and margarine.
Posted by: Ciampino
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Good thing you didn't say oleo.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 26, 2024 06:44 PM (ODCB/)

278 "You can delete the question mark from the EweTube link, and everything after it, and the link will still direct you to the correct video."

Thanks for the top, Hour of the Wolf!

Posted by: Rex B at December 26, 2024 06:50 PM (A75H2)

279 Tip top.

Posted by: Rex B at December 26, 2024 06:51 PM (A75H2)

280 Did you see all those filthy immigrants?
But they were legal.
And productive and self-supporting.
And not really filthy.

Posted by: Guslinger at December 26, 2024 10:39 PM (65a8d)

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