The Hill: "Democrats Start to Hit the Panic Button"

I disputed some commenters' claims that things are looking "rosy" for Trump. I guess some Democrats agree with them.

Democrats' nerves are at an all-time high.
Two months ago -- even a month ago -- they were feeling bullish about Vice President Harris's prospects of defeating former President Trump.
But now, with less than a month to go until Election Day, they're increasingly worried about a number of issues plaguing the Democratic nominee's campaign.
On Tuesday, there was grumbling from some Democrats about the vice president's interview on CBS's "60 Minutes."
There's also concern on everything from the static poll numbers in the race to the vice president's messaging and even her standing with men -- not just white men but Black and Hispanic men, too.
...
"We can't look back with any level of security [I think these illiterates meant "surety"] because we haven't had an African American woman on the ticket. We haven't had a former president running again. We haven't had a campaign with two assassination attempts. We haven't switched out a candidate two months before Election Day before."
"So it's just hard to know," Simmons explained. "If you're not nervous, you're not paying attention."
...
"Now that the sugar high [of the post-convention "Joy" offensive] is gone, people have realized what Kamala Harris has said from the start, which is that she is the underdog," Coley said. "This is going to be a fight. ... These numbers are just so stubborn."

I don't like cherry-picking positive poll reports to suggest some kind of broad agreement of polls in our favor, but I'll indulge myself here, because this does seem interesting. If true.

Democrats are now taking on water in Wisconsin. It's no longer an outlier: Wisconsin is in play, and incumbent Democratic Sen. Tammy Baldwin, who has hidden from national Democrats, knows this well, too. The national polling is irrelevant here, as her team's internals show Ms. Baldwin ahead by only two points. The Cook Political Report reclassified the race as a "toss-up," not the best of news, with less than a month before Election Day. Now, Democrats are scrambling, but this news out of Wisconsin also highlights a brutal part of Kamala Harris' operation: she flat-out cannot connect with working people.
...
Baldwin's internals have Donald Trump leading Kamala by three points in the state (via WSJ) [emphasis mine]:

Democrats have privately grown worried about Kamala Harris's standing among working-class voters in the crucial "blue-wall" states--particularly in Michigan.
Donald Trump has assiduously courted union members and noncollege-educated white voters with a message focused on high costs, manufacturing and the threat of China to the U.S. economy. Senior Democrats, including Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, want a sharper economic appeal from Harris and have conveyed those concerns to her campaign, according to people familiar with the conversations. They also would like the vice president to spend more time campaigning in the state.
Michigan Democrats have urged the campaign to make more overt appeals to auto workers and blue-collar workers by emphasizing the administration's work to grow the industry and build new plants.
[...]
Recent polling shows Harris and Trump essentially tied in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Winning the blue wall, along with Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District, remains her strongest path to 270 Electoral College votes, as she is doing slightly worse in polls of competitive Sunbelt states.
An internal poll done by Democrat Tammy Baldwin's Senate campaign last week showed Harris down by 3 percentage points in Wisconsin, while Baldwin was up by two points, according to a person familiar with the poll. The person said much of the narrowing is due to Republicans' strength with noncollege-educated men. Public polling has shown Harris with a slight lead in the state.

Unfortunately, Trump is doing well with low-propensity voters. Voters who will probably not turn out for the election, but if we could turn them out, would vote for Trump.

But they probably won't turn out.

Dave Wasserman
@Redistrict
New @CookPolitical: in key battlegrounds, Trump's best bet remains high turnout of less engaged voters. Among voters who always show up, Harris still leads by four, 51%-47%. But among low/mid-propensity, Trump's back up to a 52%-45% lead.

How can they be turned out? I don't know. I don't think anyone knows. The trouble is, Trump attracts a lot of disaffected voters, voters who feel little investment in American politics precisely because they have been ignored for 40+ years. The Regime's plan worked perfectly: these voters are now alienated and silenced due to their (very plausible) belief that their votes and voices just don't matter.

How do you get people to completely reverse their stance on non-engagement with a corrupt, ruthless, anti-citizen Regime?

David Strom had a post the other day about polls being "all over the map."

Here's one important chart. This shows Trump's current polling versus his 2020 polling. And 2020 polling vs. 2016 polling. Biden polled better than Hillary did and he (allegedly) barely won.

Just as Biden's improvement over 2016 resulted in a "win" (allegedly), then Trump's improvement over 2020 should bring Joy.

Trump's so brat.

Strom now writes that Kamala's media blitz is a "disaster." Well, I guess. But he also makes this point: Why would Kamala abandon her Hidden Joy strategy -- not appearing in public and just having surrogates talk about Joy -- if it were still working?

If it were working, they would continue it right through election day. But they sent this shaky, drinky airhead out to embarrass herself publicly.

They would only do that if they felt they had to, just like you never call a guilty defendant to the stand unless you're losing the trial.

That's a good point, but I can't help but think the answer may simply be: She staged a lot of fake interviews with very friendly supporters to get the media to stop saying she's avoiding the press and keep them on-side.

Kamala still can't answer in what way she'd be different than Biden, except to say, accurately, that she is not the same human being as Joe Biden, and that she's not Trump, which is... avoiding the question.

Colbert asks: "Under a Harris administration, what would the major changes be and what would stay the same?"

Harris: "Sure. Well, I mean, I'm obviously not Joe Biden. So that would be one change. But also I think it's important to say with 28 days to go, I'm not Donald Trump." pic.twitter.com/hShW96CFGY
— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) October 9, 2024

Collin Rugg @CollinRugg 9h
NEW: Kamala Harris is asked how she will be different than Joe Biden, says she will be different by not being Joe Biden or Donald Trump.
Profound.
The comments came hours after Harris said she would not have done anything differently than Biden.
Colbert: What would the major changes be?
Harris: I'm obviously not Joe Biden and so that would be one change in terms of, but also I think it's important to say with, you know, 28 days to go, I'm not Donald Trump.
And so when we think about the significance of what this next generation of leadership looks like, were I to be elected president. It is about, frankly, I I, I, I love the American people and I, I believe in our country, I, I I love that it is our character in nature to be an ambitious people.
You know, we, we have aspirations.
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 2h
This is hilariously incompetent. Impressive.

That from andycanuck.

Trump just dropped a new ad consisting of nothing but Kamala's admission that there is not an inch of separation between herself and Biden:

🚨 NEW AD pic.twitter.com/QAtPWIme91
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) October 9, 2024

Real News Outlet Axios has a huge scoop which will bring Joy: Get this, Republicans are planning a massive ad spend on that ad:

"scoop:" Republicans will do the obvious, necessary, vital thing of informing the public https://t.co/7lAKYONEP9
— Ace of Spades (@AceofSpadesHQ) October 9, 2024

Below, some of the black voters Kamala has lost:

Black Chicago residents are flipping the city red in the upcoming presidential election.🔥🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/eleb6frCPn
— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) October 8, 2024

Posted by: Ace at 03:30 PM

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1 Meep meep!!!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2024 03:30 PM (9BhPJ)

2 I'll get them

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:30 PM (CEzQx)

3 Out-meeped by Nurse!

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:31 PM (CEzQx)

4 I disputed some commenters' claims that things are looking "rosy" for Trump. I guess some Democrats agree with them.

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Well, if Democrats agree with me, then I change my position!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 03:31 PM (GBKbO)

5
A few weeks ago I said we'll know when the Democrats are worried when they start again with the abolish the Electoral College bullshit.

I heard tim walz hinted at that, yesterday.

Posted by: Soothie at October 09, 2024 03:32 PM (Rm8b6)

6 How do they know who "likely voters" are after the biggest turnout in American history in 2020 (wink)?

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:32 PM (hmOfI)

7 US Opposes Ceasefire In Lebanon, Urges Israel To 'Degrade' Hezbollah

Netanyahu calls on Lebanese to "free" the country from Hezbollah or face Gaza-level destruction.

The State Department said Tuesday that it doesn’t want to see a ceasefire in Lebanon and supports the heavy Israeli bombardment of the country to "degrade Hezbollah."

State Department spokesman Matt Miller was asked about comments from Hezbollah Deputy Sheikh Naim Qassem, who said the group supports efforts by Lebanese Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri to reach a ceasefire without mentioning that it must also include a ceasefire in Gaza. "Now that Hezbollah is on the back foot and is getting battered, suddenly, they’ve changed their tune and want a ceasefire," Miller told reporters.

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2024 03:32 PM (RHGPo)

8 kamala is going to do the same things only better.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 09, 2024 03:33 PM (CWTWj)

9
Only 25% of Americans voted for Trump! No mandate! REEEEEEE!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 03:33 PM (OkUpf)

10 6 How do they know who "likely voters" are after the biggest turnout in American history in 2020 (wink)?
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:32 PM (hmOfI)

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90% turnout, everyone's a likely voter!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 03:33 PM (GBKbO)

11 I wonder how long before this turns into a Pearl Harbor thread?

Just kidding! Heh.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 09, 2024 03:33 PM (J0r3x)

12 I still don't think they will allow Trump back in the White House.

I'm hoping I'm wrong. But I just don't see it happening. They will kill him first.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2024 03:33 PM (9BhPJ)

13 David Strom had a post the other day about polls being "all over the map."
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https://tinyurl.com/2bjar5kf
5 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:34 PM (CEzQx)

14 Good, but still think Pennsylvania mail voting will fraud the state, if not Trump wins all

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2024 03:34 PM (fwDg9)

15
Kamalas support is a mile wide and an inch thick. The hate for Trump outweighs the support of Kamala.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 09, 2024 03:34 PM (+oR7L)

16 Wait, Kamala is not Donald Trump? That is important, I'm glad she got that out there. With 28 days to go, which is also important.

Posted by: spindrift at October 09, 2024 03:34 PM (OguvZ)

17 If the information in this post is the rosy scenario, we are doomed, because there's lots of negative info included above.

Posted by: I'm Stocking Up On Alcohol at October 09, 2024 03:34 PM (YtQZg)

18 This does not seem like a hard question to answer if you're running for President-How would things be different and how would they change?. And nobody on her camapign prepared for this question and she had no clue?!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 03:35 PM (MQJVv)

19 and for the life of me i can't understand why anyone smart enough to know who is running for president would vote for harris. she is proof that you can be stupid and still succeed, if you get the double ontondre.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 09, 2024 03:36 PM (CWTWj)

20 >>3 David Strom had a post the other day about polls being "all over the map."
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https://tinyurl.com/2bjar5kf
5 seconds

dude that's a young Jonathan Banks!

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:36 PM (KRtlO)

21 I won't believe Trump will be elected unless he wins Pennsylvania.

Posted by: dantesed at October 09, 2024 03:36 PM (Oy/m2)

22 Kamala will bring JOY to the office.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2024 03:36 PM (9BhPJ)

23 Meant "How would things be different and how would they change?"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 03:36 PM (MQJVv)

24 Probably panicking because they realize it's gonna be harder this time for the steal

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2024 03:36 PM (IyPmt)

25 Stick a fork in the bitch because she is done

Posted by: Ben Had at October 09, 2024 03:36 PM (I1GXe)

26 >> I still don't think they will allow Trump back in the White House.
I'm hoping I'm wrong. But I just don't see it happening. They will kill him first.

yes, I think they've bulldozed through all the guardrails and we are now on the precipice of full third-world juntaism.

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:37 PM (KRtlO)

27 Kamala's answer sounds to me like the equivalent of Obama's B+ self-grade.

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:37 PM (hmOfI)

28 I love the clip from the View. It takes her some ungodly number of syllables to answer what would be different than Biden, when she could have answered with two letters: No.

She's the kid in school who didn't read the book, but tries to BS his way through after being called on.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 03:37 PM (xCA6C)

29 >>> This does not seem like a hard question to answer if you're running for President-How would things be different and how would they change?. And nobody on her camapign prepared for this question and she had no clue?!!

Her values haven't changed! Wink.

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:37 PM (KRtlO)

30 26 yes, I think they've bulldozed through all the guardrails and we are now on the precipice of full third-world juntaism.
Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:37 PM (KRtlO)

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My money's still on Shapiro ordering the arrest of a small town precinct captain because he refuses to release vote totals until Philly does.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (GBKbO)

31 They said Reagan was going to lose too.
But Democrats cheat system wasn't as sophisticated as today's.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (Qts0j)

32 Beat The Cheat
_ VOTE

Beat The Cheat
_ VOTE

Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (Qts0j)

33 Kamala's answer sounds to me like the equivalent of Obama's B+ self-grade.
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:37 PM (hmOfI)

She's a D- at best.

Posted by: dantesed at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (Oy/m2)

34 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)

35 Any enterprising folk wanting easy money.

From ammoland dot com
"Sign our petition to support the Constitution!

Also earn $47 for every person you refer to sign the petition if they’re in a swing state.

Goal is to get 1M voters in swing states to show support for free speech & right to bear arms. https://t.co/2cjdY7pnj9

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 6, 2024"

He is also taking on the GOTV operations outside of the stupid RNC crony driven incompetence machine via his own Super Pac.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (bt/Nj)

36 Know what I like about great big firm boobs?

EVERYTHING!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (pohLc)

37 >Black Chicago residents are flipping the city red in the upcoming presidential election.

Come on

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (NYf6N)

38 Just the News @JustTheNews
Shamed into ‘media blitz’, Harris interviews boomerang as viral moments draw flak justthenews.com/politics-pol…

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays
The Trump campaign is using unedited clips from every Harris appearance to make her look like a moron.

No extra commentary needed.

And the election is tied, say the pollsters. Lol.

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays
Imagine being a Harris supporter and learning that her campaign was divided on the question of hiding her from the public or only letting her do harmless interviews with friendlies.

Those were the only serious strategy options.

The "friendly interview" proponents won, but the "hide her" proponents turned out to be right.

Harris has given the worst public performance of any public figure since. . . who?

I can't even think of a close second.

Oh, right. Biden.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (CEzQx)

39 "Michigan Democrats have urged the campaign to make more overt appeals to auto workers and blue-collar workers by emphasizing the administration's work to grow the industry and build new plants."

Don't tell me the ICE auto plant workers care about the EV push by the Dems which moves their jobs to Tennessee!
That's almost like the Unions see themselves getting shafted by the Dems for 40 years... like that'll ever happen...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (qKSAT)

40 Good afternoon all!

I just sent Trump more $$. Worth every penny if he keeps that absolute buffoon Harris out of the WH.

Posted by: Jmel at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (bVhJi)

41 >>>Probably panicking because they realize it's gonna be harder this time for the steal

so my idea is that Trump must be clearly ahead in the polls or they will steal it. They will only NOT steal it if the steal is so obvious that they fear prison and revolt.

and he's not going to get that. He had that with Biden, not with Kamala. So the Democrats got what they needed: a stealably close poll situation.

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (KRtlO)

42 It's shocking that with a candidate as poor in every respect as Chlamydia that the race isn't a blowout.

Trump: roaring economy, no wars, diplomatic success (Abraham Accords, North Korea outreach), shitcanning NAFTA, forcing our European "allies" to pay their fair share of NATO costs mandated by treaty, etc

Harris sucked her way to the her position, in which she hasn't done squat, a lightweight slut cackling her way through everything without a brain in her head (for which she has other uses).

Trump should be leading by Hillarhoid's 50 points.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (YqDXo)

43 Kamala offers both stability and change. She's unburdened by the past but will keep doing all the same things. She's a floor wax and a dessert topping.

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (hmOfI)

44 "They" might be trying to figured out what "they" should have figured out 8 years ago...how to "manage" Trump. It can't be that hard. Tell him he's incredible, a genius. Go from there.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (x9pYc)

45 She really is an idiot.

Collin Rugg @CollinRugg 9h
NEW: Kamala Harris is asked how she will be different than Joe Biden, says she will be different by not being Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

Profound.

The comments came hours after Harris said she would not have done anything differently than Biden.

Colbert: What would the major changes be?

Harris: I'm obviously not Joe Biden and so that would be one change in terms of, but also I think it's important to say with, you know, 28 days to go, I'm not Donald Trump.

And so when we think about the significance of what this next generation of leadership looks like, were I to be elected president. It is about, frankly, I I, I, I love the American people and I, I believe in our country, I, I I love that it is our character in nature to be an ambitious people.

You know, we, we have aspirations.

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 2h
This is hilariously incompetent. Impressive.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (CEzQx)

46 >>> Any enterprising folk wanting easy money.

i'm already moving into the Farming Grift. You just can't lose!

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (KRtlO)

47 There is a GOP group called Move the Needle. They are going door to door in Milwaukie to educate black voters on why they need to vote for Trump. Harmeet Dhillon, who recently lost her husband and father, has been put in charge of voting verification in AZ. There are states where registered Republican voters now outnumber registered Dems. There is definitely positive stuff going on.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (gfViB)

48
She's a D- at best.
Posted by: dantesed at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (Oy/m2)

_______

Zero. Point. Zero.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 03:40 PM (OkUpf)

49 She's the kid in school who didn't read the book, but tries to BS his way through after being called on.
Posted by: Archimedes
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It's worked so far.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 03:40 PM (Qts0j)

50 "Sure. Well, I mean, I'm obviously not Joe Biden. So that would be one change. But also I think it's important to say with 28 days to go, I'm not Donald Trump," she Kamsplained.

It's perfect.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 03:40 PM (KbCG3)

51 Harris has given the worst public performance of any public figure since. . . who?

I can't even think of a close second.

Oh, right. Biden.
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (CEzQx)

Yet look where he is.

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:40 PM (hmOfI)

52 I think Harris needs the low propensity voters more so than Trump does. She has simply not given a reason for them to vote for her at all. That was her big failing during the debate, lack of articulating reasons to vote for her.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 09, 2024 03:40 PM (7PziG)

53 Comparison video with Liz Warren's earlier attempt at beer folksiness:

Breaking911 @Breaking911
WHO DID IT BETTER? Kamala Harris drinks beer on late night TV in pathetic attempt to relate to ordinary Americans

“The Champagne of Beers! HAHAHAHAA!”

https://tinyurl.com/y4n8dsak
1:42 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:40 PM (CEzQx)

54 Maybe she's just so unlikeable that nobody wanted to be on her campaign staff, but people got "volunteered" and the volunteers rolled their eyes and said grimly, "Well, if I HAVE to!!."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 03:41 PM (MQJVv)

55 Anyone voting for Democrats hate freedom, hate America and hate you.

Kumswala is the worst candidate in history, the economy is in shambles and the world is ludicrously close to WWIII all because of Democrats.

F*ck them and anyone who votes for them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 09, 2024 03:41 PM (Zz0t1)

56 Is it too late to put Joe back ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2024 03:41 PM (IyPmt)

57 Unfortunately, Trump is doing well with low-propensity voters. Voters who will probably not turn out for the election, but if we could turn them out, would vote for Trump.
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There's good news on that front Ace.

AP NEWS:

"Turning Point’s get-out-the-vote work is part of a broader effort to elect Trump that includes 30,000 volunteers recruited by the former president’s campaign, as well as work being done by such outside groups as Elon Musk’s America PAC, which has paid at least $45 million to voter canvasing firms this year.

Musk’s PAC took over as the leader of voter mobilization efforts in Wisconsin, a position that Turning Point had previously held."

Musk gets sh*t done.

There might be some hope for WI....Thinking more about it, I wonder if Tammy Baldwins red alert is directly a result of Musk's efforts.

Posted by: WisRich at October 09, 2024 03:41 PM (G0vdT)

58 New theory.

In college I had a townie off campus roommate who was serious partier most weekends. (I studied.)

I would come home late at night and we would "rap" and I learned a lot about drugs.

Harris talks like someone completely taken over by coke, but just a smattering of booze. After a while they get into a parkinson's stage where they are really slow, but before that they talk fine but can never get to the point or make sense. Very repetitive and off point.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 09, 2024 03:41 PM (OI5Mv)

59 Kamalas support is a mile wide and an inch thick. The hate for Trump outweighs the support of Kamala.
Posted by: Frank Barone
___________

“Hatred is the most accessible and comprehensive of all the unifying agents. Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a god, but never without a belief in a devil.”

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 09, 2024 03:41 PM (Dm8we)

60 I watched several videos of people interviewing female college "students" who are all-in on Chlamydia because "she's a woman of color."

No mention of policies, etc. Just she has a cooch, and melanin, and the analysis stops there.

We really have extended the franchise MUCH too far.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:41 PM (YqDXo)

61 thanks andycanuck, i added that.

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:41 PM (KRtlO)

62 Kamala Harris: I'm going to change things but everything will still stay the same.

Posted by: dantesed at October 09, 2024 03:41 PM (Oy/m2)

63 When I’m sitting here on December 1st and Trump has been declared president, and the House and senate races have been settled without electoral controversy, I’ll rest. Notwithstanding whether Trump voters get off their asses and vote, there is no way Democrats are going down without a whole lotta election subversion.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2024 03:41 PM (SnyzA)

64 I I, I, I love the American people and I, I believe in our country, I, I I love that it is our character in nature to be an ambitious people.
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What is the year of our founding, cnt

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:42 PM (hmOfI)

65
Q: Madam Vice President, what are the differences between yourself, Joe Biden, & Donald Trump?

A: boys have a penis. girls have a vagina. Yeah. I know, right?

Posted by: Kamala Harris at October 09, 2024 03:42 PM (+oR7L)

66
Now that the sugar high is gone, people have realized what Kamala Harris has said from the start, which is that she is ~~the underdog~~
a nullity, an idiot, lacking in intelligence, a flip-flopper for votes, and a freaking disaster

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2024 03:42 PM (xG4kz)

67 Not even the execrable Jessica Tarlov says "I'm a coconut for Kamala!" anymore.

Has Team Kamala given-up trying to meme for support? Joy! Coconuts! Brat! have all fallen flat. What else can they try? Drunk? Abortion Sisterhood? Black Sorority Sistah? An EV in every garage; Fresh maggots in every pot? Death to Inflation? Death to Trump?

Posted by: Gref at October 09, 2024 03:42 PM (aBgBM)

68 65
Q: Madam Vice President, what are the differences between yourself, Joe Biden, & Donald Trump?

A: boys have a penis. girls have a vagina. Yeah. I know, right?
Posted by: Kamala Harris at October 09, 2024 03:42 PM (+oR7L)

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Kamala has just lost the 37 trannies who run 50,000 bot accounts on social media!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

69 It's coming down to physically stopping them from cheating.
They are, at a minimum, pull the same stunts they did last time.
The question is; Are we going to stand there and watch or are we going to stop it?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 03:43 PM (Qts0j)

70 Now just wait a dad-gummed minute

I have it on good authority that Kammie is more popular than ever

Posted by: Don Black at October 09, 2024 03:43 PM (/7KEl)

71 The RCP average for the Battleground States shows Trump leading by 0.3%.

https://tinyurl.com/vw3m4n2b

Close, no doubt, but it shows him leading in 5 out of 7 swing states.

As many people have said, here and elsewhere, along the way; if Trump is leading in the polls that means he's actually leading by several points.

I think that's correct.
The polls have been skewed Dem +5% or more since 2016.

The pollsters are still having problems getting Trump supporters to answer the phone, much less sit there and answer their questions.

With less than a month to go, Kamala is, at best, treading water. There's no COVID to help her out the way Biden was hidden away.
And she's a terrible campaigner, worse than Hillary.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 09, 2024 03:43 PM (6ydKt)

72 thanks, WisRich.

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (KRtlO)

73
"Not Blah" historically does not work.

People in the main want to vote *for* something, not against it.

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (hmOfI)

74 I predict that trump will get record votes, maybe 90 million or more.
Then after counting for six weeks Harris will come in with 5 million more than Trump.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (/lPRQ)

75 >but also I think it's important to say with, you know, 28 days to go, I'm not Donald Trump.

That's more than good enough for approximately 50% of the US voting populous.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (NYf6N)

76 Can the less engaged voters be the first who are loaded onto the boxcars? I would at least like to have the satisfaction knowing they went first.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (Vyll1)

77 Kind of funny to see the same people that have been gloating that "the GOP has a problem with women" now panicking because "the Dems have a problem with men."

Posted by: pookysgirl could gave seen this coming at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (dtlDP)

78 We can't look back with any level of security (I think these illiterates meant "surety") because we haven't had an African American woman on the ticket.

Guess what? You still don't.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (Zy+zx)

79 Harris: I'm obviously not Joe Biden and so that would be one change in terms of, but also I think it's important to say with, you know, 28 days to go, I'm not Donald Trump.

And so when we think about the significance of what this next generation of leadership looks like, were I to be elected president. It is about, frankly, I I, I, I love the American people and I, I believe in our country, I, I I love that it is our character in nature to be an ambitious people.

How does that dumb twat remember to breathe?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (Zz0t1)

80
Red Kammie: I was born a po' black chile, right? * cackles *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (xG4kz)

81
i'm already moving into the Farming Grift. You just can't lose!
Posted by: ace

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But what if I don't like eggs?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (OI5Mv)

82 Harmeet Dhillon, who recently lost her husband and father,
_______________

Poor gal.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:45 PM (YqDXo)

83 Kamala has just lost the 37 trannies who run 50,000 bot accounts on social media!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 03:42 PM

Kamala meant to say, that boys have a penis and or a vagina, and girls can have a vagpenis or Vagenis.

Posted by: Kamala Harris Campaign Correction Center at October 09, 2024 03:45 PM (+oR7L)

84 > Madam Vice President, what are the differences between yourself, Joe Biden, & Donald Trump?
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He really loves quad charts. I'm Venn Girl *cackles*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2024 03:45 PM (Q4IgG)

85 4 I disputed some commenters' claims that things are looking "rosy" for Trump. I guess some Democrats agree with them.

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Well, if Democrats agree with me, then I change my position!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
=========
Statements against interest is one of the tells that you can use in a world where everyone lies and shades the truth. Treat all your new sources like Perry Mason did prosecution witnesses and even his own at times.

Kremlinology is based on the same tactics of how to tell when all your news sources are hopelessly contaminated. You look for multiple sources of observable facts and correlate the output with the contaminated news sources.

Sort of like how Germans were treated to news of their armies always advancing but when Germans looked at a map where the battles were described kept creeping closer to Germany.

Forget the news, forget the odds, sing Men of Harlech and go on with your life as best you can.

Or watch Miracle on Ice again.

Ultimately, the people involved in a fray always get a voice in what happens and know they gave it all--those that sit on their ass carping, moaning, and bitching get nothing.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 03:45 PM (bt/Nj)

86 >>>But what if I don't like eggs?

you sell them and use the money to buy something else! F***in' hell!

(taps nose)

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:45 PM (KRtlO)

87 I don't like cherry-picking positive poll reports to suggest some kind of broad agreement of polls in our favor, but I'll indulge myself ...

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[Per Bongino:] For the first time, today Trump is ahead by 8.6 points on the Polymarket betting platform.

[Per Wiki:] "Polymarket is a decentralized prediction market platform that allows users to trade on the outcome of world events. Participants can deposit USDC through the Polygon network and trade shares that represent the likelihood of specific outcomes occurring in the future."

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 03:45 PM (JzerJ)

88 Two months ago -- even a month ago -- they were feeling bullish about Vice President Harris's prospects of defeating former President Trump...

1-2 months ago, everyone lied and said whatever they needed to to gin up support for Kamala and make her feel inevitable in an attempt to get the bandwagon effect going and hopefully increase and solidify her support.

Now that election day is near, and reputations are on the line regarding prediction results, people have to start facing reality. Polls will start to shift at least closer to the actual, final, result, and Dems are panicking because reality doesn't look good.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2024 03:45 PM (JCZqz)

89 >but now, with less than a month to go until Election Day, they're increasingly worried about a number of issues plaguing the Democratic nominee's campaign.
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mainly, they now see that Kamala is a moron
and not the good kind

Posted by: Don Black at October 09, 2024 03:45 PM (/7KEl)

90 Red Kammie: I was born a po' black chile, right? * cackles *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (xG4kz)
__________________

Tell us again about the lawns, Kammie.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:45 PM (YqDXo)

91 When Chicago turns red it's usually on the weekends and results in big police presence.

That's the only time it's ever red.

Hey, was that first speaker Biggie Smalls?

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at October 09, 2024 03:45 PM (Q6Ex7)

92
Show me one, merely one, court transcript for a case in which Red Kammie was the lead attorney and actually argued a case in court.

One.

C'mon, one!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2024 03:46 PM (xG4kz)

93 Eric Daugherty @EricLDaugh Sep 15
🚨 CNN ANALYST: Let's say Donald Trump outperforms his polling by a single point - just one point. He gets 287 electoral votes. He gets Pennsylvania. That race has been consistently so tight. Whoever wins Pennsylvania, my guess is, is gonna be the next president.

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Sep 16
If every Trump supporters (especially in swing states) persuades one traditional non-voter to mail in a vote for Trump, it's game over.

I'm working on one now.

Don't try to flip a Democrat. Too late for that. Find one traditional non-voter who leans toward Trump and guide them in personally.

We need to pull Trump across the finish line.

Alex De Large @Lxdlrg4 Sep 16
any pointers on this? maybe worth a video? We could use your help, since you're pretty much the leading guru on persuasion :-)

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Sep 16 Replying to @Lxdlrg4
The trick is to pick someone close to you. You'll know how to persuade them.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:46 PM (CEzQx)

94 I still don't think they will allow Trump back in the White House.

I'm hoping I'm wrong. But I just don't see it happening. They will kill him first.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2024 03:33 PM (9BhPJ)

That's my biggest fear too. And why I pray fervently every day for God to keep protecting him as He did in Butler, PA.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 09, 2024 03:46 PM (J0r3x)

95
We haven't had a former president running again.

*gravelly voice*

Send.... more.... pundits

Posted by: Zombie Grover Cleveland at October 09, 2024 03:47 PM (y9nCu)

96 Rest assured, D's have at least one more surprise in store. It happens every single time Trump pulls "ahead".

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:47 PM (hmOfI)

97 Several friends of mine, these are serious people, truly believe that Democrats will openly undermine the election in numerous ways to declare themselves winners, then go after anyone who seriously questions them. In the end, they believe that leads to some type of open conflict they will try to put down third-world style. That we have gotten to the point where relatively sane people like these put theories like this into the serious arena of potential outcomes is pretty disturbing.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2024 03:47 PM (SnyzA)

98 i'm already moving into the Farming Grift. You just can't lose!
Posted by: ace

Is that where you don't plant anything and get paid for it?

Posted by: dantesed at October 09, 2024 03:47 PM (Oy/m2)

99 Harris: I'm obviously not Joe Biden and so that would be one change in terms of, but also I think it's important to say with, you know, 28 days to go, I'm not Donald Trump.
___________________

Thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:47 PM (YqDXo)

100 But Milton will be the October Surprise, that will convince a majority of voters that no issue is more important that Climate Change!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 09, 2024 03:47 PM (u6/wt)

101
Tell us again about the lawns, Kammie.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Red Kammie: We raised goats, who fed on our lawns. 'Cause folks were proud of those lawns!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2024 03:48 PM (xG4kz)

102 I was paddled by Grover Cleveland on 2 non consecutive occasions.
-Abe Simpson.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 03:48 PM (CIS44)

103
Yea, she's going to lower taxes!

We are living in a barely benevolent dictatorship now, with just a few inmates serving time as a lesson.

The cheat will be obvious just to teach the rest of you a lesson.

Posted by: Auspex at October 09, 2024 03:48 PM (j4U/Z)

104 1st video up there
I thought the caption was snark, but she actually said that shit

how the f*** did she ever get anywhere NEAR public office?

Posted by: Don Black at October 09, 2024 03:48 PM (/7KEl)

105 You get the low propensity voters through the ground game. Pestering them and getting them to register, and then pestering them to fill out the ballot and harvesting.

Dems have always excelled at this through the teacher's union, inner city churches, unions, and paid agents. This is the machine they turned into a fraud machine more recently.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 09, 2024 03:48 PM (OI5Mv)

106 #61 You're welcome.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:48 PM (CEzQx)

107 They're also not flooding the mails with unrequested ballots to the extent that they can reconcile an absurd number of late-arriving "votes."

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at October 09, 2024 03:49 PM (wzAuc)

108 Dignity is a small price to pay for cocaine and little boys.

Posted by: Stephen Colbert at October 09, 2024 03:49 PM (Cfzq/)

109 Democrats talked about "restoring America's standing in the world," but that sounds awfully hollow right now.

World leaders were laughing at Biden behind his back, and doubtless are rolling their eyes at Chlamydia now.

Compare the erudition of "Question Time" in the UK Parliament with Harris's completely meaningless word salads.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:49 PM (YqDXo)

110 As said if it's up to Pa, it might be a loss. Pa is totally set up to flood mail ballots. Did watch a video that Trump is winning mail votes for now, but bet winner will be days after election day before deciding.

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2024 03:49 PM (fwDg9)

111
We haven't had a former president running again.

*gravelly voice*

Send.... more.... pundits
Posted by: Zombie Grover Cleveland

Pull over, Porky

Posted by: Zombie Theodore Roosevelt at October 09, 2024 03:49 PM (xG4kz)

112 I predict that trump will get record votes, maybe 90 million or more.
Then after counting for six weeks Harris will come in with 5 million more than Trump.
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And it will be the first 100% voter turnout in U.S. federal history!

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:50 PM (CEzQx)

113 I still think it'll all end just before Christmas with a 5-4 Supreme Court decision, Roberts and ACB in the majority, that gives Kamala the presidency. But I'm less confident than I was 6 weeks ago.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at October 09, 2024 03:50 PM (x9pYc)

114 I like how Kamal can't answer even the most basic, softball questions from friendly interviewers with something that sounds coherent, intelligent and specific the question being asked. She has the same empty BS fluff to every single question.

Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2024 03:50 PM (GUOwU)

115 I almost have the feeling the left is not on board with Kamala, they are letting her do these interviews on purpose. SNL portrayed her as a drunk and Walz as a buffoon. 60 minutes guy asked questions for once.

I wish someone would ask her why she wants to be president and see if she can answer better than Ted Kennedy?

Maybe Hillary thinks she can win in 2028?

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (LJ9Iy)

116 WTF - The Quinnipiac poll has Kamala down in both Wisconsin and Michigan. What the hell is going on? Is the Blue Wall crumbling? The only good news was Kamala +2 in Pennsylvania.

A 9 point swing toward Trump in MI from 3 weeks ago? Unless something drastic happened, that we don't know about, this makes no sense.

One of the elected (woman but can't remember her name) expressed concern about Michigan. Guess she noticed changes on the ground. Hopefully Kamala will start spending more time in both places.

Baldwin also hinted at something similar. Their internals only had her up two points, and Harris down vs Trump.

That poll has Trump winning 18-34 year olds in Michigan. I call BS. No freaking way!

Don't you know the only polls that are credible are the ones that show Harris winning? Forget Quinnipiac's history of being a well-respected pollster, including in 2020 when they had Biden winning, it's now propaganda!

Ignore the internal poll from Baldwin that had Harris underwater in Wisconsin - that isn't true either!

People are going to bury their heads in the sand. Reality is Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania are CLOSE.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (JCZqz)

117 Yeah, I think if Shapiro and PA do another count until the Democrats win again, that’s not going to go well with a lot of people.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (SnyzA)

118 Thanks for clearing that up.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:47 PM (YqDXo)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (MQJVv)

119 Unfortunately, Trump is doing well with low-propensity voters. Voters who will probably not turn out for the election, but if we could turn them out, would vote for Trump.

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Heard recently that there are 40+ million self-identied Christians nationwide who don't vote. If just 10% of them voted ...

Also, Scott Pressler notes that there are 10 million hunters and gun owners nationwide not even registered to vote.

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (JzerJ)

120 mainly, they now see that Kamala is a moron
and not the good kind

No major Presidential candidate has ever been so lacking in basic political skills.

She can't speak extemporaneously.

She can't do a press conference.

She can't even do a live interview with a friendly interviewer - it has to be prerecorded so it can be edited later.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 09, 2024 03:52 PM (u6/wt)

121
I am listening to Dan Bongino's podcast from yesterday for the second time.

Dude was amped up and funnier than hell. Lotsa cussing, sure, but artfully done.

Posted by: Zombie Theodore Roosevelt at October 09, 2024 03:52 PM (xG4kz)

122 The frenzied hatred of Trump might be hurting the Demoncrats.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 03:52 PM (72W6e)

123 96 Rest assured, D's have at least one more surprise in store. It happens every single time Trump pulls "ahead".
Posted by: ...
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Too late and irrelevant crap at this time. Basically, the Dems have run a totally negative campaign against a well known figure. Hit campaigns work best on unknowns not incumbents.

Likely to backfire.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 03:52 PM (bt/Nj)

124 I could be nuts, but I've always thought Trump should go right to the heart of Chicago and speak to these people we keep seeing in Tik Tok clips, city council hearings, and the like. These people are mad. I think he could reach them. Give them a clear alternative, and show he is not remotely anything like the scary racist he's been painted as being. JMO, which doesn't mean much...

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 09, 2024 03:52 PM (b851s)

125 115 I wish someone would ask her why she wants to be president and see if she can answer better than Ted Kennedy?

Maybe Hillary thinks she can win in 2028?
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (LJ9Iy)

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If there is institutional opposition to her, it stems mostly from the coup against Biden.

The primary process allows a healing process for different factions to air their grievances and then come back together. That's not allowed with a backroom coup that the ruling faction outright opposes with only a few months left in election season while the replacement is an airhead who actively repels voters in an election environment where voters have a say in many places, maybe even enough to make a difference.

I really, really want Obama to be behind the coup because I really, really want the Democrat Party to turn against him. It would entertain me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

126 What else can they try? Drunk? Abortion Sisterhood? Black Sorority Sistah? An EV in every garage; Fresh maggots in every pot? Death to Inflation? Death to Trump?
Posted by: Gref at October 09, 2024

***
Walz: "J.D. Vance is weird!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 09, 2024 03:53 PM (J2vNu)

127 Trump’s “great pick”, ACB, along with Roberts is about to give the ATF and deep state a big win on the “ghost guns” case.

Let that sink in.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2024 03:53 PM (SnyzA)

128 Don't you know the only polls that are credible are the ones that show Harris winning? Forget Quinnipiac's history of being a well-respected pollster, including in 2020 when they had Biden winning, it's now propaganda!

Ignore the internal poll from Baldwin that had Harris underwater in Wisconsin - that isn't true either!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (JCZqz)

Plato, Aristotle, Socrates. Morons!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 03:53 PM (KbCG3)

129 I have been voting since 1972 and just can't believe that any major political party would have a top of the ticket pair of vacuous buffoons such as Harris and Walz.

We were promised "The Adults" in 2020, and got a POTUS with progressing dementia and a VP who showed no ability to learn the skills to govern.

"Some men see things as they are, and say ... WTF"

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2024 03:53 PM (RHGPo)

130 So Trump would win WI and MI but not PA ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2024 03:54 PM (IyPmt)

131 Harris: I'm obviously not Joe Biden and so that would be one change in terms of, but also I think it's important to say with, you know, 28 days to go, I'm not Donald Trump.
___________________

Thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:47 PM (YqDXo)

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Imma gonna need a Venn Diagram to be absolutely clear on this matter ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 03:54 PM (JzerJ)

132 Btw, one thing I find supremely off-putting with Harris is her voice. She has such a grating, nasaly voice that it makes my skin crawl.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 09, 2024 03:54 PM (b851s)

133 117 Yeah, I think if Shapiro and PA do another count until the Democrats win again, that’s not going to go well with a lot of people.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (SnyzA)
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one might speculate that it's not Shapiro's best interest for Harris to win.

Posted by: WisRich at October 09, 2024 03:54 PM (G0vdT)

134 74 I predict that trump will get record votes, maybe 90 million or more.
Then after counting for six weeks Harris will come in with 5 million more than Trump.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (/lPRQ)

This is what I expect.

Either way, I plan on being dead drunk election night and beyond.

Posted by: I'm Stocking Up On Alcohol at October 09, 2024 03:54 PM (YtQZg)

135 122 The frenzied hatred of Trump might be hurting the Demoncrats.
Posted by: Northernlurker
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The wicked flee when no man pursueth. They known what they have done to this country. Some are the sexually depraved, some are the corrupt, others are power mad psychopaths. That is the Democrat leadership and their media cheerleaders.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 03:54 PM (bt/Nj)

136
i'm already moving into the Farming Grift. You just can't lose!
Posted by: ace

Is that where you don't plant anything and get paid for it?
Posted by: dantesed at October 09, 2024 03:47 PM (Oy/m2)

*whistles absently*

Posted by: Bruce Springsteen at October 09, 2024 03:54 PM (y9nCu)

137 124 I could be nuts, but I've always thought Trump should go right to the heart of Chicago ...
Posted by: Lady in Black

I was under the impression he wished to reduce the odds of being shot again.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (JCZqz)

138 116 Don't you know the only polls that are credible are the ones that show Harris winning? Forget Quinnipiac's history of being a well-respected pollster, including in 2020 when they had Biden winning, it's now propaganda!

Ignore the internal poll from Baldwin that had Harris underwater in Wisconsin - that isn't true either!

People are going to bury their heads in the sand. Reality is Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania are CLOSE.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (JCZqz)

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Yes, Quinnipac showed Biden winning in 2020. It's final poll in 2020, the most "accurate" was Biden 50, Trump...39.

A Biden +11.

The idea that Quinnipac is a good pollster entertains me.

But, it showing Kamala down as possibly their final poll of the Rust Belt is interesting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

139 Posted by: CaliGirl at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (LJ9Iy)

What was Ted Kennedy's answer about why he wanted to be President?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (MQJVv)

140 Somewhere, Dan Qualye is laughing to himself

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (RHGPo)

141 >>>132 Btw, one thing I find supremely off-putting with Harris is her voice. She has such a grating, nasaly voice that it makes my skin crawl.

I'm tellin' ya, babe, she sounds like Sammy Davis Jr. on estrogen, you get me?

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (KRtlO)

142 "Democrats Start to Hit the Panic Button"

Is that before or after they hot their spouses/SO?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (/U5Yz)

143 hit damnit, hit.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (/U5Yz)

144 134 74 I predict that trump will get record votes, maybe 90 million or more.
Then after counting for six weeks Harris will come in with 5 million more than Trump.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (/lPRQ)

This is what I expect.

Either way, I plan on being dead drunk election night and beyond.
Posted by: I'm Stocking Up On Alcohol
=======
And the dissolution of the current regime, formal or informal of the US begins. And a rebirth begins.

Don't take counsel of your fears (short version of Georgie Patton).

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (bt/Nj)

145 Too late and irrelevant crap at this time. Basically, the Dems have run a totally negative campaign against a well known figure. Hit campaigns work best on unknowns not incumbents.

Likely to backfire.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 03:52 PM (bt/Nj)

I didn't say it will work I said be prepared for the narrative to shift one more time.

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (hmOfI)

146 >>>But what if I don't like eggs?

you sell them and use the money to buy something else! F***in' hell!

(taps nose)
Posted by: ace

Wow, you're going to make a bundle!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 09, 2024 03:56 PM (qKSAT)

147 "Yeah, I think if Shapiro and PA do another count until the Democrats win again, that’s not going to go well with a lot of people."

Too bad for those people. No plausible scenario in which anything is done about it. State legislatures and Congress (not courts) have a unique express role in policing presidential elections, through certification. (that this remains a complete secret to 98% of Americans is a nice example of the collapse of the civic culture)

Outlandishly implausible that any state legislature or Congress will reject the certifications of secretaries of state. If a ballot gets counted, it's never being thrown out. If an election result gets certified by a secretary of state, it's never being thrown out. (this applies to presidentials, state and House/Senate elections are thrown out and re-run with some regularity)

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 03:56 PM (GcNJ2)

148 One question: are you better off now or five years ago?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:56 PM (YqDXo)

149 The Democrats' loss of the Teamsters will hurt their low propensity turnout. That organization really could pull out all stops. That was a bigger deal than given credit.

That said, I've thought all along the Regime would not allow Trump to take office again. That still holds, although I've started to have a few doubts, and if the margin anywhere near resembles the polling trend, that no longer may be the case due to the magnitude of cheating that would be necessary. RCP just moved Michigan to Trump, and if that anywhere is near true, it would require martial law for Harris to "win" (and don't totally discount this, we had the medical version of martial law reently).

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 09, 2024 03:56 PM (KSNKu)

150 Biden differs from Harris in that she only has a penis in her hand 99% of the time.

Posted by: Whore Jokes, Get Your Whore Jokes at October 09, 2024 03:56 PM (YtQZg)

151 130 So Trump would win WI and MI but not PA ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2024 03:54 PM (IyPmt)

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WI and MI's elections are probably more honest than PA, so yes.

But not because of voter preferences.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

152 Polls mean nothing. It's all about the cheap in the swing states. If the Democrats get away with what they did in 2020, Trump and the whole country loses.

Posted by: zogger at October 09, 2024 03:57 PM (HGKOZ)

153 I'm sure if the election was on the up n up and polls were the same, I believe Trump is ahead by a mile. Not even close. No this is not a post suggesting giving up for the usual commenters that come out of the woodwork with BS accusations when I say this.
Drag MF'ers by the g damn neck out to vote if you have to. Vote because your life depends on it.
It all depends on whatever ways to commit fraud they've come up with during the offseason. We'll find out soon enough if our side has done enough and is successful in thwarting it.

Posted by: JROD at October 09, 2024 03:57 PM (IlL6s)

154 Donny is throwing red meat and all the gristle here in Scranton today! I'm heartened to see tons of disaffected minorities here.

Posted by: hutch1200 at October 09, 2024 03:57 PM (SZ7hm)

155 there's a youtuber Dom Lucre who showed a graphic of the election prediction markets showing Trump ahead of KH by 10 points. I looked at predictit and they have KH ahead by a smidge but they have also - get this - stopped allowing purchases of Trump contracts

so even the stupid gaming site is rigged

Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2024 03:57 PM (dCxaZ)

156 Plato, Aristotle, Socrates. Morons!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

I have two glass filled with Kool-Aid...let's drink together!

Posted by: Democrat Cult Leader Masked Man in Black after Trump wins the election at October 09, 2024 03:57 PM (JCZqz)

157 I had the worst vibes from Amy Bony Carrot.

She brings a whole new meaning to the term "abortion judge".

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 03:58 PM (hmOfI)

158 Psssst. @ace…Brat died as quickly as it came about. Now it’s mindful and demure. Mostly used incorrectly.

Posted by: Piper at October 09, 2024 03:58 PM (p4NUW)

159
how the f*** did she ever get anywhere NEAR public office?
Posted by: Don Black

F**king Willie.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 09, 2024 03:58 PM (qKSAT)

160 I agree with ace’s pessimism. I would only believe Trump could win if he was up by 7 or more percent in polls in battleground states. The problem is that Democrats are consistently out performing the polling for 2 reasons: 1) Massive mail in vote fraud in the big cities and 2) women who believe that unrestricted abortion is the most important right and that they must protect it.

Posted by: Brian at October 09, 2024 03:58 PM (bXV8x)

161 What was Ted Kennedy's answer about why he wanted to be President?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (MQJVv)
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He made Harris sound like William F. Buckley Jr.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (YqDXo)

162 People are going to bury their heads in the sand. Reality is Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania are CLOSE.
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Someone's angling for a paddling!

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (CEzQx)

163 148 One question: are you better off now or five years ago?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:56 PM (YqDXo)

If low propensity voters could do this kind of higher level math they wouldn't be lower propensity voters. An awful lot of no-shows basically drift through life with purely magical thinking. There is no cause and effect in their life planning.

Posted by: They're The Real Deplorables at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (YtQZg)

164 Trump visited a Black church in June, and I think he is going to the Detroit Economic Forum this week.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (MQJVv)

165 Ace -
That's a good point, but I can't help but think the answer may simply be: She staged a lot of fake interviews with very friendly supporters to get the media to stop saying she's avoiding the press and keep them on-side.

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if she's having trouble holding the *press* in line, which is 110 percent on side, how well is she doing with marginal groups that are affected by Bideconomy?

Its similar for the guy whining about increasing the Black vote who usually are 90 percent on side. Well where is the ability to grow your vote if you already have nine of 10?

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (n7h9X)

166 Psssst. @ace…Brat died as quickly as it came about. Now it’s mindful and demure. Mostly used incorrectly.

Posted by: Piper at October 09, 2024 03:58 PM (p4NUW)
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WTH is that "brat" crap, anyway?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (YqDXo)

167 "One question: are you better off now or five years ago?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara"

Harris: I'm obviously not Joe Biden and so that would be one change in terms of, but also I think it's important to say with, you know, 28 days to go, I'm not Donald Trump. I believe in America and growing the middle class.

Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (GUOwU)

168 158 Psssst. @ace…Brat died as quickly as it came about. Now it’s mindful and demure. Mostly used incorrectly.
Posted by: Piper at October 09, 2024 03:58 PM (p4NUW)

Mindful and demure ? Swigging beer on Colbert and going on some Young womens sex blog ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (IyPmt)

169 160 I agree with ace’s pessimism. I would only believe Trump could win if he was up by 7 or more percent in polls in battleground states. The problem is that Democrats are consistently out performing the polling for 2 reasons: 1) Massive mail in vote fraud in the big cities and 2) women who believe that unrestricted abortion is the most important right and that they must protect it.
Posted by: Brian at October 09, 2024 03:58 PM (bXV8x)

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This isn't right.

Democrats consistently underperform polling. Well, mostly, the polls underestimate Trump support.

If there is one pattern across polling over the past 8 years, it's that polls underestimate Trump by 3-5% pretty consistently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (GBKbO)

170 If low propensity voters could do this kind of higher level math they wouldn't be lower propensity voters. An awful lot of no-shows basically drift through life with purely magical thinking. There is no cause and effect in their life planning.
Posted by: They're The Real Deplorables at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (YtQZg)

And they are running the State Department these days.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (n7h9X)

171 @129....absolutely. Harris/Walz is tje probably the single worst major party national ticket in US history. The 19th century probably had some doozies but nothing this bad. It's grotesque.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at October 09, 2024 04:00 PM (x9pYc)

172 Posted by: hutch1200 at October 09, 2024 03:57 PM (SZ7hm)

That's good to hear.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 04:00 PM (MQJVv)

173 Hello is this, Governor Santantos ???

I was just calling to see how you are doing?

Is it windy there??

Cackle..... Cackle..... Cackle.....

Posted by: Kamal Harris at October 09, 2024 04:00 PM (PYJJG)

174 “The Regime's plan worked perfectly: these voters are now alienated and silenced due to their (very plausible) belief that their votes and voices just don't matter.”

Maybe the problem lies with a Republican Party that viciously and maliciously refuses to represent its voters.

Posted by: Bill Underwood at October 09, 2024 04:00 PM (zHNQj)

175 Harris 2020 Campaign (which didn't make it to 2020): Trainwreck.

Harris Vice Presidency: Trainwreck.

Harris 2024 Campaign: Trainwreck.

Harris Presidency: WTFDYT?

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 09, 2024 04:00 PM (qUkBO)

176 Mark Halperin has a pretty good podcast about politics and he sees Harris falling down in the swing states . If Trump brakes Penn, Wis or Mich it's over

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2024 04:00 PM (UJ9QF)

177 If low propensity voters could do this kind of higher level math they wouldn't be lower propensity voters. An awful lot of no-shows basically drift through life with purely magical thinking. There is no cause and effect in their life planning.

Posted by: They're The Real Deplorables at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (YtQZg)
________________

Going through life, perpetually surprised by events.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (YqDXo)

178 Maybe low propensity federal voters know that both parties are piles of crap. Nah they're idiots of course. Couldn't be anything else. We're the smart ones!

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (hmOfI)

179 >>.there's a youtuber Dom Lucre who showed a graphic of the election prediction markets showing Trump ahead of KH by 10 points. I looked at predictit and they have KH ahead by a smidge but they have also - get this - stopped allowing purchases of Trump contracts

this is a very unuseful thing to go by. Who cares what the bettors think? They have no more information than you or I do. Further, Elon Musk keeps promoting the betting markets, which encourages his supporters to bet there.

They've never meant anything and now people are using them to help shape expectations.

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (KRtlO)

180 WTH is that "brat" crap, anyway?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (YqDXo)
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$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (U1w17)

181 158 Psssst. @ace…Brat died as quickly as it came about. Now it’s mindful and demure. Mostly used incorrectly.
Posted by: Piper

What about Kamala's "Joyful" campaign? The media's "sanewashing" of Trump's speeches? Tim Walz' "tonic masculinity"? Those are all still winners, right?

Posted by: Democrat Cult Leader Masked Man in Black after Trump wins the election at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (JCZqz)

182 666th!!!

Posted by: Stan at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (89Sog)

183 I am listening to Dan Bongino's podcast from yesterday for the second time.

Dude was amped up and funnier than hell. Lotsa cussing, sure, but artfully done.
Posted by: Zombie Theodore Roosevelt

The Wifey and I watch Bongino on Rumble each weeknight when we get home from work. He was pissed off yesterday and apologizing profusely for the language. But if you're not pissed off about what's going on, you're not paying attention. I'd love to hear Limbaugh's take on all this, but sometimes you need a bruiser wading in with copious amounts of profanity laying it out for everyone to hear.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (Zy+zx)

184 I think people need to be more precise in their language.

"Mail in ballots" by definition involve the post office.

I don't believe that is where potential fraud (necessarily) or electoral jiggery-pokery can occur. Or occurs primarily in the 2020s?

"They" put out ballot drop boxes, with no chain of custody or dates/postmarks etc, in various locations and these are the ballots that are (perhaps) mailed out, but in any case provided unsolicited.

In some states a "voter" must request an absentee ballot by mail. It will then be mailed out, has a bar code and is linked or tracked to a "registered voter".

But I think generally "mail in ballots" as a descriptor is not very good, and understates the potential in some states or precincts for fraudulent ballots, double votes, etc.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (GLjEo)

185 129 I have been voting since 1972 and just can't believe that any major political party would have a top of the ticket pair of vacuous buffoons such as Harris and Walz.

We were promised "The Adults" in 2020, and got a POTUS with progressing dementia and a VP who showed no ability to learn the skills to govern.

"Some men see things as they are, and say ... WTF"
Posted by: SMOD
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Relax, Biden junta probably got about the same actual votes as Killary did. Trump authentically went out and got 13 or more million more votes than he did in 2016.

What you are seeing is fake, gay, election cheating on a mass scale and you only get despondent if you believe they actually got those votes legitimately despite all their illegal actions in 2020 that have been documented.

I get angry instead which is why the Dems, media,and the GOPe cronies in on the steal call these stories of election fraud as disinformation.

And yet, curiously we cannot see the ballots, nor have the witnesses testify in actual court trials, examination in Congress of the stolen electoral votes, etc.

Because we said so--shutup is their response.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (bt/Nj)

186 We've had, objectively, the worst 4 years of nominal peacetime in American history.

Even if Kamala was a great candidate, which she clearly isn't, this should look like the 1980 election.

There is the fraud unlike what was in place in 1980, and a ridiculous number of nominally legally immigrants like to vote for Kamala both unlike 1980, but this should be a massive loss for her and her party.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (oZhjI)

187 >>>Real News Outlet Axios has a huge scoop which will bring Joy: Get this, Republicans are planning a massive ad spend on that ad:

Bang up job, guys.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (i24o9)

188 Kamala's bump in the polls consisted of relief brain dead Joe wasn't going to run against PDT.

Then, Kamala opened her mouth. Repeatedly.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (tT6L1)

189 With Melania recently stating that she supports a woman's right to choose Trump will lose some of the right-to-lifers. Self-inflicted error if you ask me.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (/U5Yz)

190
What was Ted Kennedy's answer about why he wanted to be President?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024

***
"When I returned, Mary Jo and the car were gone. . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (J2vNu)

191 It really is true
Kamala was chosen as Biden's veep solely for her melanin content and female naughty bits

she really brings absolutely nothing else

Posted by: Don Black at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (/7KEl)

192
Trump 400 EV's, margarine of error 20.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (RKVpM)

193 >>>If there is one pattern across polling over the past 8 years, it's that polls underestimate Trump by 3-5% pretty consistently.

oh, this gets at my other concern: Pollsters *claim* they've now corrected for their previous skewed samples and failures to call Trump voters

What if this time they're actually right?

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (KRtlO)

194 "I disputed some commenters' claims that things are looking 'rosy' for Trump. I guess some Democrats agree with them."

I think things are looking so hot for Trump the Russian hookers might need to pee on him to put out the fire. Rosy is an understatement. He's got this in the fucking bag . . .

. . . right up until midnight on election night when major Democrap strongholds in swing states suddenly decide in unison to stop counting. Then cargo containers of newly-found ballots get dumped in the parking lot and magically 100% are for Putang Puta. And . . . well, you get the picture.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

195 144 134 74 I predict that trump will get record votes, maybe 90 million or more.
Then after counting for six weeks Harris will come in with 5 million more than Trump.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 09, 2024 03:44 PM (/lPRQ)

This is what I expect.

Either way, I plan on being dead drunk election night and beyond.
Posted by: I'm Stocking Up On Alcohol
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And the dissolution of the current regime, formal or informal of the US begins. And a rebirth begins.

Don't take counsel of your fears (short version of Georgie Patton).
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (bt/Nj)

Oh, I'm not.

I will keep on keeping on to the bitter end. That's life. I'm going to outlast the cockroaches.

Posted by: I'm Stocking Up On Alcohol at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (YtQZg)

196 WTH is that "brat" crap, anyway?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:59 PM (YqDXo)

A "grassroots" effort to make a 60 year old cocksucking diversity hire hip and with it (as the kids say nowadays) with the kids.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 09, 2024 04:03 PM (i24o9)

197 181 What about Kamala's "Joyful" campaign? The media's "sanewashing" of Trump's speeches? Tim Walz' "tonic masculinity"? Those are all still winners, right?
Posted by: Democrat Cult Leader Masked Man in Black after Trump wins the election at October 09, 2024 04:01 PM (JCZqz

Something tells me there is no joy in Kamalaville at the moment.

Posted by: Piper at October 09, 2024 04:03 PM (p4NUW)

198 26 >> I still don't think they will allow Trump back in the White House.
I'm hoping I'm wrong. But I just don't see it happening. They will kill him first.

yes, I think they've bulldozed through all the guardrails and we are now on the precipice of full third-world juntaism.
Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:37 PM (KRtlO)
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I agree with that. I wish our side would demand they assure us they are committed to a peaceful transfer of power to Trump. They demand that of us, after all.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 09, 2024 04:03 PM (1bNHn)

199 Ace

RE: Democrat gloom; momentum shift:

Me say same t'ing! Long time!

Gamble mony same t'ing too!

Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at October 09, 2024 04:03 PM (NLIak)

200 She's "mindful and demure"?!! I laughed-loudly.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 04:03 PM (MQJVv)

201 Democrats Start to Hit the Panic Button
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If Mark Elias and the election thievery part of the Democrat Party is panicked, then this is good news. Until there is evidence for this, I'm not going to get too excited yet.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 09, 2024 04:03 PM (6KESc)

202 And yet, curiously we cannot see the ballots, nor have the witnesses testify in actual court trials, examination in Congress of the stolen electoral votes, etc.

Because we said so--shutup is their response.

And it is instructive to compare this to 2000 - the left claimed the election was stolen and they were given full access to everything to try and make their case...where they found Shrub had actually won FL by a few more votes then the original count.

If they believed Biden had won the election legitimately they would have done the same thing in 2020 - instead they cancelled or imprisoned everyone trying to actually examine the election in detail.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 09, 2024 04:03 PM (oZhjI)

203 there's a youtuber Dom Lucre who showed a graphic...

There's a YouTuber named Dom Mazzetti who has all sorts of graphic content...including some sick GAINZZZZ.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2024 04:04 PM (JCZqz)

204 Several friends of mine, these are serious people, truly believe that Democrats will openly undermine the election in numerous ways to declare themselves winners, then go after anyone who seriously questions them.

How would that be different than what we have now?

Posted by: Common Tater at October 09, 2024 04:05 PM (GLjEo)

205 What was Ted Kennedy's answer about why he wanted to be President?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024

***
"Pop promised me!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 09, 2024 04:05 PM (J2vNu)

206 “ belief that their votes and voices just don't matter.”

That’s because they don’t. There’s trillions of $$ to spend every year. You think they are going to let us decide on where that goes?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 09, 2024 04:05 PM (AxhV2)

207 What if this time they're actually right?
Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (KRtlO)

They're gamblers. Trying to predict the future is a fool's game so they are likely to be wrong as always. I guess you could argue they might be wrong in the other direction but that doesn't really scan.

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 04:05 PM (hmOfI)

208 >>>123 96 Rest assured, D's have at least one more surprise in store. It happens every single time Trump pulls "ahead".

Tapper's pushing Russiagate again. Woodward says he has "sources" who say, get this, that Trump has taken phone calls from another world leader, and for some reason, Trump and only Trump isn't permitted to do that.

Just in time!

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 04:05 PM (KRtlO)

209 But but but they are *weird*!

Posted by: Twinkletoes Walz at October 09, 2024 04:05 PM (qUkBO)

210 and he's not going to get that. He had that with Biden, not with Kamala. So the Democrats got what they needed: a stealably close poll situation.
Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (KRtlO)

That seems odd since Kamala is less popular than Biden was. And the Poll stealers are Biden backers not Harris backers.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:06 PM (n7h9X)

211
Kari Lake won't stop emailing me
I think she's into me ❤️

Posted by: Don Black at October 09, 2024 04:06 PM (/7KEl)

212 If Tammy Baldwin is only up 2 in her own polls, she is in big, big trouble.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 09, 2024 04:06 PM (i7Q7S)

213 Kamala's bump in the polls consisted of relief brain dead Joe wasn't going to run against PDT.

Then, Kamala opened her mouth. Repeatedly.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

The mouth opening is what got her this far...it was when she started talking...

Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (Zy+zx)

214 139 Posted by: CaliGirl at October 09, 2024 03:51 PM (LJ9Iy)

What was Ted Kennedy's answer about why he wanted to be President?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (MQJVv)

He didn't have one and he mumbled and stammered and that ended his campaign. I believe he was in a primary against Carter. I also believe Ted Kennedy communicated with Russia about how dangerous Reagan was or something. Not sure if this was in 80 or 84.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (LJ9Iy)

215 We could start turning out low propensity voters by turning out the ones we have here, the black pilled ones who think it doesn't matter...

One of those "if it doesn't matter, just humor us and vote - what do you have to lose"...you only have everything possible to gain (now maybe you gain nothing, but again, then what's your cost - 10 minutes on a weekday and 20 cents in gas?)...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (exHjb)

216 41 >>>Probably panicking because they realize it's gonna be harder this time for the steal

so my idea is that Trump must be clearly ahead in the polls or they will steal it. They will only NOT steal it if the steal is so obvious that they fear prison and revolt.

and he's not going to get that. He had that with Biden, not with Kamala. So the Democrats got what they needed: a stealably close poll situation.
Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (KRtlO)
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The question is whether they can steal as bigly as in 2020. On the positive side, Republicans now take it seriously. 4 years ago I was derided as nuts because I predicted it. Now, everyone fears it. That should make a difference. And Ronna is gone; that has to help.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (1bNHn)

217
"Brat" = "Sassy" and is a chick thing that cute chicks think they can get away with being aggressively stupid because of their looks..

Also used by fat ugly wymyn and homos because they're delusional.

Posted by: Auspex at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (j4U/Z)

218 211
Kari Lake won't stop emailing me
I think she's into me ❤️
Posted by: Don Black

She's PIA. I emailed her campaign a couple of years ago and told them to STOP.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (/U5Yz)

219 191 It really is true
Kamala was chosen as Biden's veep solely for her melanin content and female naughty bits

she really brings absolutely nothing else
Posted by: Don Black

Let's not be too hasty! It was also theorized she was picked because she was so disagreeable and incompetent, she was insurance against a coup to replace him.

Obviously that didn't work out, but the concept might still be sound...and it explains Walz.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (JCZqz)

220 Several friends of mine, these are serious people, truly believe that Democrats will openly undermine the election in numerous ways to declare themselves winners, then go after anyone who seriously questions them.

How would that be different than what we have now?
Posted by: Common Tater at October 09, 2024 04:05 PM (GLjEo)

Well since that happened in 2020, 2016 and for about a dozen elections before that, its a safe bet.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (n7h9X)

221 They've never meant anything and now people are using them to help shape expectations.
Posted by: ace

All of the information sources in American society have been tampered with and cannot be trusted.

What you have to do is far more difficult---watch the candidates, where do they go, what do they do. Where are the calls for help for congressional candidates for extra funds, etc. Trump not acceding to a desperate Kamala for another debate and shrugging it off is another.

Simply put, this is not 2020, not 2022, and instead of listening to the pregame shows on the media and their braying sheep on the screen-go out and play the game on the field. That is ultimately what decides this, not the media nor the Dems, or even the GOP.

Do it for your kids, for what is left of your country, do it for decency, dignity, and the American way of life. Don't leave the locker room believing in defeat.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (bt/Nj)

222 I am getting tons of email/texts from R candidates. But it is still all "give me money". On the D side (some asshole got me on their lists) there are offers to drive me to the polls, help me understand "the issues", and the like.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (oZhjI)

223 Why is the final shift in polling always toward the Republican?

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (hmOfI)

224 Beat The Cheat
_ VOTE
Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 03:38 PM (Qts0j)

And vote EARLY if you can.

Lord knows what they're planning on election day.

Posted by: Lady Who Lurks at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (JCLJi)

225 how many times has Woodward dropped a book in the autumn of an election year

Posted by: Don Black at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (/7KEl)

226 What if this time they're actually right?
Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (KRtlO)

Or they could be worse than before There are some democrats that wont drink the kool aid. Maybe there are more now ?

Posted by: Klamala Hairyass at October 09, 2024 04:08 PM (S+j2h)

227 Let us not forget the sage advice of Winston Wolf

Posted by: weew at October 09, 2024 04:08 PM (AFsi2)

228 ... then Trump's improvement over 2020 should bring Joy.

Trump's so brat.

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I'm feelin' some good, good, good ewok vibes!

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 04:08 PM (JzerJ)

229 "Brat died as quickly as it came about. Now it’s mindful and demure. Mostly used incorrectly.
Posted by: Piper"

Her handlers keep trying, unsuccessfully, different descriptors showing her in a positive light. None of them stick more than a a couple days, usually until she opens her mouth in public.

Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (GUOwU)

230 193 oh, this gets at my other concern: Pollsters *claim* they've now corrected for their previous skewed samples and failures to call Trump voters

What if this time they're actually right?
Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (KRtlO)

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Polling is expensive and requires an incentive to get it right.

Quinnipac was off by 8 points in 2020, and 538 says it's one of the best pollsters.

What incentive is there to be right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (GBKbO)

231 Ugh, so many typos. Can you tell that I'm a mom of a newborn? (Kind of sad that Kamala will never know that feeling, but she'd probably not ne a great mom.)

Posted by: pookysgirl, trading shifts with Pooky at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (dtlDP)

232 The Deep State expected lawfare to seriously damage PDT's chances of capturing the nomination. The Deep State didn't reckon on a large part of the electorate knowing it was lawfare going in and, also identifying with unjust prosecution, because they've either experienced it directly or indirectly.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (tT6L1)

233 I am also worried about the disruption that two major hurricanes will cause on Trump areas. It will depress turnout of HIGH propensity voters....

They are gonna cheat, obvs.

They will kill him if they lose. But they'll also have to kill JD Vance. They'll try anything.

Posted by: Bitter facts dispensed freely at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (YPnDT)

234 Let's not be too hasty! It was also theorized she was picked because she was so disagreeable and incompetent, she was insurance against a coup to replace him.

Obviously that didn't work out, but the concept might still be sound...and it explains Walz.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (JCZqz)

Remember, the coup announcement came out and they were talking about an open convention...then a second message came out (presumably from Biden's camp) supporting a closed convention and Harris.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (n7h9X)

235 They will cheat, openly, in the same way they did in 2020, and nobody will do a fucking thing about it, except the government will arrest and prosecute anyone who complains.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (/RHNq)

236 168 donna

That makes TWO sex show/soft porn sites, then.

Howard Stern's show once featured women riding a Sybian machine-- live.

The company she keeps-- tells us something.

Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (NLIak)

237 Does anyone else think that Walz talks like Jerry Carol from the old crazy Eddie commercials?

Posted by: Avi at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (8mcxT)

238 I think there's a general consensus just about everywhere I go on the internet and in my real life that Democrat fraud is a massive, very serious problem. I just can't believe we've reached such a place in America where the levels of fraud we know exist just keep growing and continuing apace. It's stomach turning we have to live with this kind of treachery, and factor its existence into every damned election in this country.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 09, 2024 04:10 PM (b851s)

239 The Deep State expected lawfare to seriously damage PDT's chances of capturing the nomination. The Deep State didn't reckon on a large part of the electorate knowing it was lawfare going in and, also identifying with unjust prosecution, because they've either experienced it directly or indirectly.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (tT6L1)

kinda dumb since the US elects Democrats who are all criminals.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:10 PM (n7h9X)

240
Why is the final shift in polling always toward the Republican?

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM

Ever had your pants pulled down so far that the crack of your ass is visible to the entire nation?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2024 04:10 PM (RKVpM)

241 What was Ted Kennedy's answer about why he wanted to be President?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024
_______________

I don't remember the details, but when he was asked that obvious question, he had that deer in the headlights look on his face, then mumbled ineffectually for a few minutes as if he'd never thought about this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:11 PM (YqDXo)

242 Other than DeSantis, two other things that are worth moving to Florida for:

Julie Durdo

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 09, 2024 04:11 PM (ufFY8)

243 216 The question is whether they can steal as bigly as in 2020. On the positive side, Republicans now take it seriously. 4 years ago I was derided as nuts because I predicted it. Now, everyone fears it. That should make a difference. And Ronna is gone; that has to help.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (1bNHn)

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I do think Republicans take it seriously now. The RNC was bought and paid for in 2020 and put up the worst of fights before, during, and after the election. They had no desire to do anything other than to lay down and let Trump lose no matter what.

The RNC has changed hands, and seems to be doing better now (seems).

We'll see.

The only real limit on cheating is what courts will allow, and courts have shown themselves to be very amenable to Democrats breaking rules out in the open while bragging about it and letting them get away with it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

244 We'll be able to see the cheat from here.

Posted by: Two Astronauts Stranded on the ISS at October 09, 2024 04:11 PM (Zy+zx)

245 217
"Brat" = "Sassy" and is a chick thing that cute chicks think they can get away with being aggressively stupid because of their looks..

Also used by fat ugly wymyn and homos because they're delusional.
Posted by: Auspex at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (j4U/Z)

Brat is something I put on a bun.

With catsup, haters.

Posted by: I was raised poor, and catsup is a universal solvent at October 09, 2024 04:11 PM (YtQZg)

246 Tapper's pushing Russiagate again. Woodward says he has "sources" who say, get this, that Trump has taken phone calls from another world leader, and for some reason, Trump and only Trump isn't permitted to do that.

Just in time!
Posted by: ace
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Won't work. The original plan was using that to conceal FISA warrants. Everyone around Trump already knows their comms are monitored. That trick only works once.

Tapper is probably looking soon at unemployment as Warner_Discovery and CNN ratings continue to crumble. Woodward is a undead hack that doesn't know his influence is nonexistent outside the Beltway. His nastier half has went into full derangment and even the Dems no longer take him seriously.

Next, they will wheel out John Dean to tell us again about how Trump=Nixon.

Boomer political tales from days gone by.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:11 PM (bt/Nj)

247 243 Other than DeSantis, two other things that are worth moving to Florida for:

Julie Durdo(sic)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop

Julie Durda is hot.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 09, 2024 04:12 PM (/U5Yz)

248 Her handlers keep trying, unsuccessfully, different descriptors showing her in a positive light. None of them stick more than a a couple days, usually until she opens her mouth in public.

Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2024 04:09 PM (GUOwU)

You'd think they never watched "Mean Girls", but that movie would probably be too uncomfortable for them (cuz they're the Mean Girls).

Posted by: pookysgirl, trading shifts with Pooky at October 09, 2024 04:12 PM (dtlDP)

249 I am getting tons of email/texts from R candidates. But it is still all "give me money". On the D side (some asshole got me on their lists) there are offers to drive me to the polls, help me understand "the issues", and the like.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (oZhjI)

Take about a dozen of them up on it, then dont vote.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (n7h9X)

250 240
Why is the final shift in polling always toward the Republican?

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM

Ever had your pants pulled down so far that the crack of your ass is visible to the entire nation?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2024 04:10 PM (RKVpM)

Never!

Posted by: Frankie B jeans at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (LJ9Iy)

251 What if this time they're actually right?
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They are never right.

Also, did they disclose the "correction" methodology?

The polls are for opinion shaping//consensus building/forcing. There is only one poll that ever matter in the history of US politics and that sometimes happens on election day.

Posted by: Bitter facts dispensed freely at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (YPnDT)

252 oh, this gets at my other concern: Pollsters *claim* they've now corrected for their previous skewed samples and failures to call Trump voters

What if this time they're actually right?

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (KRtlO)

-- -- --

I don't think they'll ever fix the Dem skew since the left uses polling to influence opinion not just to measure it.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (6ydKt)

253 Listen, if this was America of 40 years ago, 48+ state landslide for Trump, no question, but this is not America of 40 years ago, this is an America where a clear majority of of people are drugged up lunatics, suburban wine Karens, AWFL's and other assorted maniacs.

Couple that with the Donks control of enough swing state voting apparatuses and Kamblabla and Walnutz have a better than 50pct chance of being installed.

If Trump wins, it's going to be close, like 270 EC votes close.

And if it's that close, I expect the Donks to rip this country apart, toot sweet.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (XV/Pl)

254 Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (bt/Nj)

Thank you for that post. Please consider posting it periodically through election day.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (MQJVv)

255 226 What if this time they're actually right?
Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 04:02 PM (KRtlO)

Or they could be worse than before There are some democrats that wont drink the kool aid. Maybe there are more now ?
Posted by: Klamala Hairyass at October 09, 2024 04:08 PM (S+j2h)

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NC is going to be a huge polling miss, I think.

In the past year, the NC board of elections has cleared out a full 10% of the voting rolls. Over 700,000 ineligible voters gone.

Let's assume, just for a moment, that NC Dems cheated in 2020, leading to the election of Roy Cooper using things like mail in ballots and last minute ballot box stuffing to get it done. The loss of 10% of the registered voter list (along with a host of other things the R legislature forced through over Cooper's veto) means that the 2024 electorate in NC could look very, VERY different from 2020.

And most polling firms are using 2020 as a baseline. If 2020 is no longer close to the right baseline, how bad of a miss will polling that relies on it be?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (GBKbO)

256 I'll tell you one thing that's missing right about now...every election cycle, Nancy Pelosi glides out to media and makes a pronouncement that the Democrats are looking great and are positioned to take the House, hold the Senate and secure the Presidency. A lot of the time, her pronouncements were not backed up by the polls at the time, but she scored more times than she missed.

She's not doing that this time. She even called the 2018 midterms against all conventional wisdom, and we saw how those turned out (Red Sunami my aunt June's rather large posterior). Pelosi is MIA this election cycle...so far.

Posted by: Orson at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (dIske)

257 I know, let's surrender harder on key issues and let Democrat lies stand unopposed!

Posted by: Karen at October 09, 2024 04:14 PM (FhaSM)

258 44 "They" might be trying to figured out what "they" should have figured out 8 years ago...how to "manage" Trump. It can't be that hard. Tell him he's incredible, a genius. Go from there.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at October 09, 2024 03:39 PM (x9pYc)

They already tried that. He knows better now.

https://tinyurl.com/5n6ru47m
Starts at 10.30 of this video.
Start at 10:32

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 09, 2024 04:14 PM (Rbu5d)

259 Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop

Julie Durda is hot.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 09, 2024 04:12 PM (/U5Yz)

Durda, Durdo.

I barely saw her name.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 09, 2024 04:14 PM (ufFY8)

260 Next, they will wheel out John Dean to tell us again about how Trump=Nixon.

Boomer political tales from days gone by.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:11 PM (bt/Nj)

The number of people who even remember Nixon approaches zero annually.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:14 PM (n7h9X)

261 Trump seems to be pulling away in PA

They will cheat but Im cautiously optimistic he is posed to overcome another steal

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 09, 2024 04:14 PM (M7vhK)

262 The only real limit on cheating is what courts will allow, and courts have shown themselves to be very amenable to Democrats breaking rules out in the open while bragging about it and letting them get away with it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Dems have been losing a lot of court cases btw even in blue states like Michigan and PA. Basically, courts bent with the 2020 hurricane but are slowly returning to a more normal posture.

Helps that no one like the regime in power and the Dems have been shredding laws throughout the US. Gives court cover to make better decisions on law instead of panic.

They had Covid in 2020--too late for that now. Even a war or terrorist attacks probably will not save them but doom them instead.

Be not afraid.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:15 PM (bt/Nj)

263 Piper is right about so demure, so mindful being the thing right now. It's a tik tok viral video.

Posted by: Frankie B jeans at October 09, 2024 04:15 PM (LJ9Iy)

264 Let's not be too hasty! It was also theorized she was picked because she was so disagreeable and incompetent, she was insurance against a coup to replace him.
__________________

She was picked because she was black and female, and that a-hole Clyburn demanded that in return for pulling Biden's primary campaign out of the toilet. Harris was no worse than any of the other black female candidates (e.g., Stacy Abrams - shudder).

So we have the Black Plague to thank for this fiasco.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:15 PM (YqDXo)

265 Tornado caught live in camera during a weather report on Florida.
https://tinyurl.com/3trupu4j

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 09, 2024 04:15 PM (Rbu5d)

266 Senator M. Kennedy (D) Massachusetts, made secret overtures to the government of the Soviet Union with respect to the Democrats prevailing against Ronald Reagan.

"Election Interference" wasn't a thing then, one must suppose.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 09, 2024 04:16 PM (GLjEo)

267 262 Dems have been losing a lot of court cases btw even in blue states like Michigan and PA. Basically, courts bent with the 2020 hurricane but are slowly returning to a more normal posture.

Helps that no one like the regime in power and the Dems have been shredding laws throughout the US. Gives court cover to make better decisions on law instead of panic.

They had Covid in 2020--too late for that now. Even a war or terrorist attacks probably will not save them but doom them instead.

Be not afraid.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:15 PM (bt/Nj)

========

There have been very solid victories. But, the real trick is stuffing a box and saying, "You're going to disenfranchise voters if you don't let us count these without question."

Courts seem extremely unwilling to undo that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

268
One question: are you better off now or five years ago?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 03:56 PM (YqDXo)

Yes, but it has nothing to do with the economy. It's because I started my own business, based on almost 30 years of experience in my field. I'm most definitely the outlier.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 09, 2024 04:16 PM (y9nCu)

269 (Red Sunami my aunt June's rather large posterior).
_____

Pics, please

Posted by: Sir Mix-a-lot at October 09, 2024 04:16 PM (6KESc)

270 Ace's last link to the Chicago residents making a statement about attending a Chicago City Council meeting came to fruition.

They raised hell.

One of the best and hardest-working political commenters on YT posted the glorious results on his "Black Conservative Perspective" channel. I've fast-forwarded the link to the Chicago intro:

LINK: https://tinyurl.com/24748w4a

Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2024 04:17 PM (rj6Yv)

271 257 I know, let's surrender harder on key issues and let Democrat lies stand unopposed!
Posted by: Karen

*fist bump

Posted by: McConnell & Johnson at October 09, 2024 04:17 PM (/U5Yz)

272 'll tell you one thing that's missing right about now...every election cycle, Nancy Pelosi glides out to media and makes a pronouncement that the Democrats are looking great and are positioned to take the House, hold the Senate and secure the Presidency. A lot of the time, her pronouncements were not backed up by the polls at the time, but she scored more times than she missed.

She's not doing that this time. She even called the 2018 midterms against all conventional wisdom, and we saw how those turned out (Red Sunami my aunt June's rather large posterior). Pelosi is MIA this election cycle...so far.
Posted by: Orson at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (dIske)

Didn't take a genius to see 2018. What was in 20, 25 old guard Rs retiring to keep campaign money or whatever it was. Hard to recover from that conspiracy, even without the GOPe tanking it too.

Now Trump is in charge of that.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:17 PM (n7h9X)

273 Quick! Let's get Gov. Shapiro on the horn. We can force Harris out and renominate a replacement.

All we need is a second, 30-day sugar high!

Posted by: DNC and MFM BIRM at October 09, 2024 04:17 PM (aXxgO)

274 What was Ted Kennedy's answer about why he wanted to be President?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2024

He froze, because his real answer was "Because I'm a Kennedy", and it occurred to him that that was not a good response.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 09, 2024 04:18 PM (u6/wt)

275 The number of people who even remember Nixon approaches zero annually.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Unfortunately, many of those politically undead reside in Congress, the executive branch, the national press corp, and the Beltway banditti.

Just like Ben Mankowitz cannot get the stick out of his ass about Sen. McCarthy and the blacklist which was far milder treatment to traitors than how they were treated elsewhere or in history in the US.

They use these things to justify doing evil today.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:18 PM (bt/Nj)

276 272 Didn't take a genius to see 2018. What was in 20, 25 old guard Rs retiring to keep campaign money or whatever it was. Hard to recover from that conspiracy, even without the GOPe tanking it too.

Now Trump is in charge of that.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:17 PM (n7h9X)

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40 GOP members of Congress retired in 2018.

40.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

277 I could see Trump ironically losing AZ and still winning anyway

And then going beast mode on AZ by deporting all the RINOS in maricopa county to a luxurious mexican cartel compound

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 09, 2024 04:18 PM (M7vhK)

278 Ace:

Somber message from lefty on social media:

Biden has asked Congress to approve more money for FEMA, and Mike Johnson says no, not until after the election.

Posted by: KT at October 09, 2024 04:18 PM (xekrU)

279 Piper is right about so demure, so mindful being the thing right now. It's a tik tok viral video.
Posted by: Frankie B jeans at October 09, 2024 04:15 PM (LJ9Iy)
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They keep using those words. I do not think they mean what they think they mean.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at October 09, 2024 04:19 PM (U1w17)

280 Why is the final shift in polling always toward the Republican?

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (hmOfI)
__________________

Two stages:

1. Make the Dem look as good as possible in an effort to discourage conservative voters; and later, near the election

2. Back off the phony polls to try to recover some credibility

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:19 PM (YqDXo)

281 When the left says they're pulling out their last minute secret weapon. which is turkey handed Jane Fonda, you know they're desperate.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 09, 2024 04:19 PM (/U5Yz)

282 “joy”. Was supposed to be like Obama’s “hope.” But she is a terrible national candidate.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 09, 2024 04:19 PM (7PziG)

283 Let's not be too hasty! It was also theorized she was picked because she was so disagreeable and incompetent, she was insurance against a coup to replace him.
__________________

She was picked because she was black and female, and that a-hole Clyburn demanded that in return for pulling Biden's primary campaign out of the toilet. Harris was no worse than any of the other black female candidates (e.g., Stacy Abrams - shudder).

So we have the Black Plague to thank for this fiasco.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:15 PM (YqDXo)

Black and Female is one thing, Harris is another. You could have plucked someone else meeting that criteria. Harris was chosen as coup insurance.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:20 PM (n7h9X)

284 280Two stages:

1. Make the Dem look as good as possible in an effort to discourage conservative voters; and later, near the election

2. Back off the phony polls to try to recover some credibility
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:19 PM (YqDXo)

======

"No! It's totally because the electorate changes in the exact same way every single election cycle! It's real! It totally happens! We're always right!"
-The Polling Industry

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

285 We'll be able to see the cheat from here.
Posted by: Two Astronauts Stranded on the ISS
......

DEI Kalamama will lose 49 states but still be elected.

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:20 PM (v0R5T)

286 > Pelosi is MIA this election cycle...so far.
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She'll resurface. Once the steal has been confirmed.

She doesn't like to be wrong, so if she does run her mouth you can bet she thinks there's a good chance they'll snag the Presidency.

*my reading of the tea leaves*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2024 04:20 PM (Q4IgG)

287 280 Why is the final shift in polling always toward the Republican?

Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 04:07 PM (hmOfI)
__________________

Two stages:

1. Make the Dem look as good as possible in an effort to discourage conservative voters; and later, near the election

2. Back off the phony polls to try to recover some credibility
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:19 PM (YqDXo)

And you have to understand - there is a large contingent of male 18-29s who just want to vote for the winner. My brother was that way when he was younger. It's like sports teams...so you ALWAYS want to be the winner going in, for the bandwagon jumpers - they jump on to get to feel the win...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 09, 2024 04:20 PM (exHjb)

288 282 “joy”. Was supposed to be like Obama’s “hope.” But she is a terrible national candidate.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 09, 2024 04:19 PM (7PziG)

I thought it was to cover up for her stupid cackling...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2024 04:20 PM (IyPmt)

289 My favorite really, was not when Pelosi said "Donald Trump will not be President. You can take that to the bank."

It was prior to that, right before the infamous "Piss tape" or maybe it was the "pussy tape", as one may lose crucial details in the foggy ruins of time.

No, she came out with a similar pronouncement when it was the establishment Republicans who were trying to kneecap the Donald. She was quite smug and had an ace up her sleeve, cooing that pretty soon everything will get back to "normal", Donald Trump will not be the Republican nominee, and the two candidates will either be named Bush or Clinton, as is the normal order of things.

Did I mis-remember. I thought Paul Ryan, then speaker of the House, calling on the Donald to step down as the candidate *after* he had won, due to unsubstantiated accusations by the usual suspects. Do I have that right? Step down a couple months before the general. Really?

Posted by: Common Tater at October 09, 2024 04:21 PM (GLjEo)

290 I'm hoping PDT, if he wins the election gets on the phone with the president of Mexico and tells him, doesn't ask, tells him, "You're going to let our guys take out the cartels and you're going to end the migrant caravans through your country, else, you will be considered as facilitating an invasion of the US."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 09, 2024 04:21 PM (tT6L1)

291 how the f*** did she ever get anywhere NEAR public office?
Posted by: Don Black

The one state party rule of Cali. As long as she had a D next to her name (and Willie Brown political machine) she was the perfect candidate.

No need to have policy positions. The D was the policy positions.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 09, 2024 04:21 PM (JkCto)

292
Trump seems to be pulling away in PA

If you're a politician running for office in Pennsylvania, you visit 'Pat's Steaks' in Philly for a cheese steak.

Trumps reception was huge. TBH, Pat's was in the background.

Still.

Philly breaking under 80/20 is huge. Early night huge.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2024 04:21 PM (RKVpM)

293 Why is the final shift in polling always toward the Republican?

**************

Every fucking 4 years, the same shit

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 09, 2024 04:21 PM (M7vhK)

294 Holy Freakin' Sh!t:

This is an actual headline at Salon:

"Trump Weaponizing Assassination Attempts for Political Gain"

Posted by: theATL at October 09, 2024 04:22 PM (BYfP9)

295 Kamala still can't answer in what way she'd be different than Biden, except to say, accurately, that she is not the same human being as Joe Biden, and that she's not Trump, which is... avoiding the question.

-------------------

I find it charming that people pretend it matters what Kamala's answers are to these questions. She is merely an avatar for whoever is really making decisions behind the scenes just as is Biden. It would be something if these questions were directed at real decision makers but of course the Svengalis must be hidden to be effective.

I wonder if the animosity and rage at Trump are due to the fact that he is not a puppet and actually makes real decisions as per the constitution.

Posted by: Decaf at October 09, 2024 04:22 PM (unUNN)

296 >>>One of the best and hardest-working political commenters on YT posted the glorious results on his "Black Conservative Perspective" channel. I've fast-forwarded the link to the Chicago intro:
LINK: https://tinyurl.com/24748w4a

thanks mrp!

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 04:22 PM (KRtlO)

297 She's not doing that this time. She even called the 2018 midterms against all conventional wisdom, and we saw how those turned out (Red Sunami my aunt June's rather large posterior). Pelosi is MIA this election cycle...so far.
Posted by: Orson at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (dIske)

Didn't take a genius to see 2018. What was in 20, 25 old guard Rs retiring to keep campaign money or whatever it was. Hard to recover from that conspiracy, even without the GOPe tanking it too.

Now Trump is in charge of that.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:17 PM

They all retired because republican rules on committee term limits in the House were going to kick them off of their coveted committee chairman spots and end the graft, kick backs and perks they were getting from those positions. They cared more about the benjamins than they did republican party control of the House.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 09, 2024 04:22 PM (QNSds)

298 265 Tornado caught live in camera during a weather report on Florida.
https://tinyurl.com/3trupu4j

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 09, 2024 04:15 PM (Rbu5d)

-- -- --

Evan Fryeburger on YouTube showed two tornadoes within 15 minutes of each other on traffic cams during his livestream about 9 a.m. this morning.
Who ever was operating the state traffic cams was panning the camera to keep it on the tornado.

Tornados popping off all over Florida today.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 09, 2024 04:22 PM (6ydKt)

299 227 Let us not forget the sage advice of Winston Wolf
Posted by: weew at October 09, 2024 04:08 PM (AFsi2)

Killjoy.

Posted by: Transportation Secretary at October 09, 2024 04:23 PM (43By9)

300 "Trump seems to be pulling away in PA"

==========

Maybe. This perspective among blacks seems to be pretty common.

Erie County, PA

"Howard Pratchett, 48, a barber, said he plans to vote for Trump because he is more "factual" than Harris. "We don't care about LBGT rights. We don't care about, you know, abortion rights. We're not worried about that. They don't offer anything to the straight Black male voters," Pratchett said.

Monty Davis, 51, who runs a local youth program, said he appreciates President Joe Biden's efforts to lower costs and plans to vote for Harris. But he warned the energy among the Black community is not as high as it was with Presidents Barack Obama or Biden.

"It's just not that intense," Davis said."

https://tinyurl.com/bdwna7wd

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 09, 2024 04:23 PM (i7Q7S)

301 My neighbors septic tank replacement is going to cost $80K.
Kalamama, why are septic tanks so expensive?

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

302 Just like Ben Mankowitz cannot get the stick out of his ass about Sen. McCarthy and the blacklist which was far milder treatment to traitors than how they were treated elsewhere or in history in the US.
_________________

Plus the fact that McCarthy was absolutely right. He might have obnoxious and an alcoholic, but the Venona decrypts confirm that the government was riddled with commies.

Most notably Harry Dexter White, a Soviet agent who was the chief negotiator (nominally) for the U.S. at Bretton Woods.

Not to mention, inter alia, the two State Department officials (whose names escape me at the moment) who fled to Red China when named by McCarthy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

303 They will shut her down for the rest of the campaign, stat—no more interviews, even of the fluffball variety.

And some may start to jump ship from the stench of her failure and actively undermine her - a la what Biden is doing.

If Biden keeps harming her, his lifetime grade will skyrocket from F double minus to just F minus.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at October 09, 2024 04:24 PM (QoIUd)

304 There have been very solid victories. But, the real trick is stuffing a box and saying, "You're going to disenfranchise voters if you don't let us count these without question."

Courts seem extremely unwilling to undo that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Not necessarily this time. Often legal abuse happens all the time in discovery motions, etc. but it reaches a certain point and judges let fly with being treated as a fool.

You argue in court all the time in bad faith, it catches up with you. Removing the supine and Vichy RNC election lawyers was part of the improvement and unfortunately was later than sooner because of the GOP nomination contest.

Ronna and her cohorts had to walk the plank and the National Party had to be rebuilt from scratch. Unfortunately, Bitch McConnell and the hapless Johnson still run their own. The RGA has not covered itself in glory either and this election cycle has more or less covered themselves in disgrace for blowing tons of money during the primary to support their hapless GOP governors against Trump. Bad use of money. Just as the Kevin McCarthy revenge tour blew a bunch of money for nothing becuz his butt hurt from being kicked out

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:24 PM (bt/Nj)

305 how the f*** did she ever get anywhere NEAR public office?
Posted by: Don Black

The one state party rule of Cali. As long as she had a D next to her name (and Willie Brown political machine) she was the perfect candidate.

No need to have policy positions. The D was the policy positions.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 09, 2024 04:21 PM (JkCto)

She's a great candidate because she will never, never become a force in CA to rival the Pelosis and whatever idiots run LA and Socal.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:24 PM (n7h9X)

306 I called a medical office for an appointment the other day and the nice gal I talked to mentioned how she really needed to get a spam filter for her phone because of all the poll calls she gets. Says she doesn’t answer the question but is tired of the constant contact. So who is answering these polls?

Posted by: Jen the original at October 09, 2024 04:25 PM (KbNdf)

307 Pelosi is MIA this election cycle...so far.
Posted by: Orson at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (dIske)

She and Paul are running around in their underwear with hammers.

Posted by: Auspex at October 09, 2024 04:25 PM (j4U/Z)

308 Having lived through vast disappointments in 2012, 2020, and 2022, I refuse to be giddy over any news that Trump is ahead. If and when it happens in November, then I will celebrate. With a vast amount of relief.

Posted by: RebeccaH at October 09, 2024 04:25 PM (Nvors)

309 Philly breaking under 80/20 is huge. Early night huge.

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Im hopeful given 2 things that lefty polls cant hide:

There is no reality in which the Coconut outperforms the Pedo. Zero.

They dont have an ungodly mass of mail votes in which to hide the fraud.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 09, 2024 04:25 PM (M7vhK)

310 When Trump wins it will be close and then I'd bet that about five minutes after calling the election for Trump the propaganda ministries will start saying " given how close it was, Trump doesn't have a mandate. "

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2024 04:25 PM (UJ9QF)

311 Holy Freakin' Sh!t:

This is an actual headline at Salon:

"Trump Weaponizing Assassination Attempts for Political Gain"

Posted by: theATL at October 09, 2024 04:22 PM (BYfP9)
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"So I'll stand at the podium, and when I turn my head to the left, you shoot me in the ear, OK?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:25 PM (YqDXo)

312 301 My neighbors septic tank replacement is going to cost $80K.
Kalamama, why are septic tanks so expensive?
Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

If that includes a drain field he's getting off cheap.

Posted by: Auspex at October 09, 2024 04:26 PM (j4U/Z)

313 310 When Trump wins it will be close and then I'd bet that about five minutes after calling the election for Trump the propaganda ministries will start saying " given how close it was, Trump doesn't have a mandate. "
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2024 04:25 PM (UJ9QF)

Unless we keep the house and win the senate.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at October 09, 2024 04:26 PM (YiKO5)

314 If Trump wins, he absolutely needs to follow through on his promises to prosecute election cheaters anyway.

"Don't be a sore loser!" will cry NRO.

"Only someone in on it would say that," the new Trump AG says, opening up an investigation into NRO's finances.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

315
Polymarkets has Trump dropping 1% in the odds on news that Kamala is 'taking the gloves off'.

Every guy knows a BJ with gloves in is bogus.

Bogus, dude.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2024 04:26 PM (RKVpM)

316 I really dont understand non voting people. Even if the bluest or reddest states where you might think your vote “doesn’t matter” there are always local races where your vote does matter. It takes 10 minutes to vote. Theres really no excuse not to do it.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 04:26 PM (9ibOV)

317 Plus the fact that McCarthy was absolutely right. He might have obnoxious and an alcoholic, but the Venona decrypts confirm that the government was riddled with commies.

Most notably Harry Dexter White, a Soviet agent who was the chief negotiator (nominally) for the U.S. at Bretton Woods.

Not to mention, inter alia, the two State Department officials (whose names escape me at the moment) who fled to Red China when named by McCarthy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

What??? the Intelligensia of the Country are fools and traitors?? I shan't believe it!

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:26 PM (n7h9X)

318 303 They will shut her down for the rest of the campaign, stat—no more interviews, even of the fluffball variety.

And some may start to jump ship from the stench of her failure and actively undermine her - a la what Biden is doing.

If Biden keeps harming her, his lifetime grade will skyrocket from F double minus to just F minus.
Posted by: Eternity Matters at October 09, 2024 04:24 PM (QoIUd)

Biden is in his "give zero f&cks" phase b/c he and Jill are pissed...so he's now working on get evens during his lucid moments...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 09, 2024 04:27 PM (exHjb)

319 Pelosi is MIA this election cycle...so far.
Posted by: Orson at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (dIske)

She and Paul are running around in their underwear ~~with~~ hammerED.
Posted by: Auspex

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:27 PM (v0R5T)

320 I really dont understand non voting people. Even if the bluest or reddest states where you might think your vote “doesn’t matter” there are always local races where your vote does matter. It takes 10 minutes to vote. Theres really no excuse not to do it.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 04:26 PM (9ibOV)

No, there isn't always that. When I lived in South Side Chicago the only office that was contested was US Senator.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (n7h9X)

321 The suspense is not "will Trump win with voters"; instead it's "will Dems think they can get away with another steal".

Posted by: Emmie at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (NIkq3)

322 Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 04:26 PM (9ibOV)

I'm in CA and I've never missed a vote though they don't count for much here

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (IyPmt)

323 7th graders can come up with better filler than her Re: the Colbert interview. But she’s not allowed to say that another difference is that he has a penis and she has a vagina.

I bet she’s the one who said “here it is!” on the math problem that asks you to find X.

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (J1d8J)

324 301 My neighbors septic tank replacement is going to cost $80K.
Kalamama, why are septic tanks so expensive?
Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

I'm looking at putting in A/C and the guy that came told me I should have done it pre covid but what he should have said is pre Biden. Prices have almost doubled.

Posted by: Frankie B jeans at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (Go6qm)

325 They will not allow Trump to take office. They will not allow a Republican congress. Plan accordingly.

Who is John Galt ?

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (qVV8U)

326 It's kind of odd.

Seattle is deep navy blue. I see a few Harris signs here and there. A sticker occasionally. But compared to the Obama signs and the Hillary signs, you could say there's no voter enthusiasm. I'm hoping democrat turnout is abysmal.

Harris will still win Seattle, no doubt. But I see very little, if any enthusiasm. The Cats for Kamala shirts are hilarious.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (/7Sa4)

327 And some may start to jump ship from the stench of her failure and actively undermine her - a la what Biden is doing.
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Serious question: do Shapiro and Whitmer really want Harris to win? Her career interests and theirs are pretty much diametrically opposed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (YqDXo)

328 Plus the fact that McCarthy was absolutely right. He might have obnoxious and an alcoholic, but the Venona decrypts confirm that the government was riddled with commies.

Most notably Harry Dexter White, a Soviet agent who was the chief negotiator (nominally) for the U.S. at Bretton Woods.

Not to mention, inter alia, the two State Department officials (whose names escape me at the moment) who fled to Red China when named by McCarthy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Yep. And it is to Ike's disgrace that he covered up the sins of FDR and Truman by shafting McCarthy's attempts to get Commies outta government. McCarthy looks better in historical hindsight and Ike looks worse in that respect.

Hoover, and Bedell Smith also deserve profiles in cowardice for hiding behind nat sec and not coming out publicly over the Venona intercept validity.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (bt/Nj)

329 Unless we keep the house and win the senate.

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Senate seems like a cautious lock

House seems posed to pick up 10 more seats if Trump wins, and more if he does better than expected

then watch the RINOS fuck around and whine that this is not who we are when Trump starts building the wall again

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 09, 2024 04:29 PM (M7vhK)

330 327 Serious question: do Shapiro and Whitmer really want Harris to win? Her career interests and theirs are pretty much diametrically opposed.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (YqDXo)

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Will they be able to rise any further in the party if they intentionally and publicly stab the (even unlikeable) nominee in the back?

"She couldn't even deliver MI for Kamala! Of course she can't be the nominee!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

331 "Trump Weaponizing Assassination Attempts for Political Gain"
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Be a good sport and play dead, even though we missed.

Posted by: Salon at October 09, 2024 04:29 PM (6KESc)

332 301 My neighbors septic tank replacement is going to cost $80K.
Kalamama, why are septic tanks so expensive?
Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

If that includes a drain field he's getting off cheap.
Posted by: Auspex
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It doesn't.
Just the tank, which in my opinion is not the problem. It's got to be sediment in the drain field causing the backup.

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:30 PM (v0R5T)

333 "This is an actual headline at Salon:

"Trump Weaponizing Assassination Attempts for Political Gain""

I love it. They are unwittingly using the Streisand Effect to help him. The far Left freaks will vote for Harris no matter what, but undecideds won't buy lines like that.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at October 09, 2024 04:30 PM (QoIUd)

334 I called a medical office for an appointment the other day and the nice gal I talked to mentioned how she really needed to get a spam filter for her phone because of all the poll calls she gets. Says she doesn’t answer the question but is tired of the constant contact. So who is answering these polls?
Posted by: Jen the original at October 09, 2024 04:25 PM (KbNdf)

Why would any pollster call a business in the first place? Incompetence or fraud. What you gonna get calling a receptionist? A woman, a young woman, all slanting heavily Dem.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:31 PM (n7h9X)

335 "do Shapiro and Whitmer really want Harris to win?"

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I can't imagine having to work with her as President.

Secretly they have to be hoping DJT wins.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 09, 2024 04:31 PM (i7Q7S)

336 That's a good point, but I can't help but think the answer may simply be: She staged a lot of fake interviews with very friendly supporters to get the media to stop saying she's avoiding the press and keep them on-side.

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My guess is her internal polling sucks combined with pressure and heat from big donors.

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 04:31 PM (Gwk3C)

337 Dont know about Shatpiro, but the Witch absolutely

She had zero interest in being a VP and its to her benefit that coconut lose so she can run right away for 2028, otherwise it would have been a long wait

plus women hate other women

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 09, 2024 04:31 PM (M7vhK)

338 Is Biden actively working against Kammie, or is it just because his brain is so rotten he doesn't know what he's saying or doing

the other day he said the Helene survivors in NC were 'very happy'

Posted by: Don Black at October 09, 2024 04:31 PM (/7KEl)

339 No matter how good it looks for our side, I continue to counsel WLNSSEODQY.

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at October 09, 2024 04:32 PM (a3Q+t)

340
Most notably Harry Dexter White, a Soviet agent who was the chief negotiator (nominally) for the U.S. at Bretton Woods.

Not to mention, inter alia, the two State Department officials (whose names escape me at the moment) who fled to Red China when named by McCarthy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

Don't forget Alger Hiss at Yalta.

Posted by: Frankie B jeans at October 09, 2024 04:32 PM (Go6qm)

341 Will they be able to rise any further in the party if they intentionally and publicly stab the (even unlikeable) nominee in the back?

"She couldn't even deliver MI for Kamala! Of course she can't be the nominee!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

Who says it is public?

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:33 PM (n7h9X)

342 Quinnipiac one of the best polls? You have got to be shitting me. They are consistently several points off in every election.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at October 09, 2024 04:34 PM (XMwZJ)

343 Kalamama, why are septic tanks so expensive?
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PEEDOM!!!

Posted by: young kamala harris at October 09, 2024 04:34 PM (CEzQx)

344 Media gives any Dem 10-15%

The Great Cheat Machine gives them 5-15% (or is there any limit?)

The Post Office destroys some R area ballots ... another +3%

Yet Trump could still win ... maybe.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 09, 2024 04:34 PM (Cus5s)

345 Ronna and her cohorts had to walk the plank and the National Party had to be rebuilt from scratch. Unfortunately, Bitch McConnell and the hapless Johnson still run their own
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Hapless Johnson? Bob Dole has something that can help with that.

Posted by: Zombie Bob Dole at October 09, 2024 04:34 PM (6KESc)

346 Is Biden actively working against Kammie, or is it just because his brain is so rotten he doesn't know what he's saying or doing

the other day he said the Helene survivors in NC were 'very happy'
Posted by: Don Black at October 09, 2024 04:31 PM (/7KEl)

Happier than the dead ones, yeah.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:34 PM (n7h9X)

347 307 Pelosi is MIA this election cycle...so far.
Posted by: Orson at October 09, 2024 04:13 PM (dIske)

She and Paul are running around in their underwear with hammers.
Posted by: Auspex at October 09, 2024 04:25 PM (j4U/Z)

I'm wondering if she finally "grew" that beard from too many face lifts.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 09, 2024 04:34 PM (N39Ws)

348 341 Who says it is public?
Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:33 PM (n7h9X)

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To the powers that be that understand how the cheat is done, it'd be all but public. They would know that Whitmer or Shapiro could have done more, but refused.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:34 PM (GBKbO)

349
Why would any pollster call a business in the first place? Incompetence or fraud. What you gonna get calling a receptionist? A woman, a young woman, all slanting heavily Dem.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:31 PM (n7h9X)

Gallup used to call my house phone and I would make up answers to mess up their poll and their questions were always, to me anyways, push poll questions.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 09, 2024 04:34 PM (Go6qm)

350 "do Shapiro and Whitmer really want Harris to win?"

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I can't imagine having to work with her as President.

Secretly they have to be hoping DJT wins.
Posted by: Jay in PA
.......

Whitmer just wants to date him.

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:34 PM (v0R5T)

351 344 Media gives any Dem 10-15%

The Great Cheat Machine gives them 5-15% (or is there any limit?)

The Post Office destroys some R area ballots ... another +3%

Yet Trump could still win ... maybe.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 09, 2024 04:34 PM (Cus5s)

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1.7 million ballots in GA from 2020 have no images. A full third of the 5 million total ballots from a presidential election in the state were arguably fraudulent.

We're not a 50/50 nation. We're not close to it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

352 My 7-year-old Tavington Worth-Smithers III burst into tears over his pop tarts this morning and cried out, "Is Kamala Harris really down in the polls?!? I shan't be able to break my fast in an America this racist and sexist!"

Posted by: Somewhere on Twitter at October 09, 2024 04:35 PM (YtQZg)

353 I'm tellin' ya, babe, she sounds like Sammy Davis Jr. on estrogen, you get me?
Posted by: ace at October 09, 2024 03:55 PM (KRtlO)

Lol. That's it exactly!

Posted by: Lady Who Lurks at October 09, 2024 04:35 PM (JCLJi)

354 Black Chicago residents are flipping the city red in the upcoming presidential election.

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"Well he's based, based Leroy Brown
Basest man in the whole damn town ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 04:35 PM (Gwk3C)

355 Harris will still win Seattle, no doubt. But I see very little, if any enthusiasm. The Cats for Kamala shirts are hilarious.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (/7Sa4)

that is like "Lobsters for Red Lobster" isn't it?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 04:36 PM (D7oie)

356 I really should be getting some work done here but I just don't feel like it.

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:36 PM (v0R5T)

357 284 280Two stages:

1. Make the Dem look as good as possible in an effort to discourage conservative voters; and later, near the election

2. Back off the phony polls to try to recover some credibility
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:19 PM (YqDXo)

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"No! It's totally because the electorate changes in the exact same way every single election cycle! It's real! It totally happens! We're always right!"
-The Polling Industry
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:20 PM (GBKbO)
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No, it's that Republicans always cheat. Obviously.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 09, 2024 04:36 PM (1bNHn)

358 337 Dont know about Shatpiro, but the Witch absolutely

She had zero interest in being a VP and its to her benefit that coconut lose so she can run right away for 2028, otherwise it would have been a long wait

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger
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The Democratic field was just as PO'd as voters that Harris was gifted the nomination.

Posted by: WisRich at October 09, 2024 04:36 PM (G0vdT)

359 House seems posed to pick up 10 more seats if Trump wins, and more if he does better than expected

then watch the RINOS fuck around and whine that this is not who we are when Trump starts building the wall again
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 09, 2024 04:29 PM (M7vhK)

Don't think RINOs will have the influence they did last time Trump won, and get Speaker.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:37 PM (n7h9X)

360 359 Don't think RINOs will have the influence they did last time Trump won, and get Speaker.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:37 PM (n7h9X)

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I would be shocked beyond words if Johnson wasn't Speaker again, and the guy turned full establishment the moment he met the big dollar donors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

361 "do Shapiro and Whitmer really want Harris to win?"

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Gruesome Newscum for sure wants her to lose.

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 04:38 PM (Gwk3C)

362 Harris will still win Seattle, no doubt. But I see very little, if any enthusiasm. The Cats for Kamala shirts are hilarious.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2024 04:28 PM (/7Sa4)

that is like "Lobsters for Red Lobster" isn't it?
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 04:36 PM (D7oie)

Does she even have a cat? Even a pretend pet like Socks?

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:38 PM (n7h9X)

363 314 If Trump wins, he absolutely needs to follow through on his promises to prosecute election cheaters anyway.

"Don't be a sore loser!" will cry NRO.

"Only someone in on it would say that," the new Trump AG says, opening up an investigation into NRO's finances.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Should Trump win, it is time to get rid of the traitors and lawfare is the way to do it.

Our stinking rotten courtiers like NRO and even Heritage Foundation at the behest of big donors is something that needs a stake driven through it.

Margaret Thatcher put some of the Tory think tanks out of business because their pedantic ideal world bullshit was harming the party politically.

The whole 2025 report was a perfect example of someone at Heritage trying to set the agenda that was not the candidate's and usurping their role for personal gain and glory.

Want to do that shit, put it out on your own rather than under the imprimatur of an institution.

Same as if the NRO Vichy types put out their own lame brain thoughts outside the NRO. They don't because no one would read them and thus no one would pay them for long. Instead, they prefer to be the kept cheap mistress of donors.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:38 PM (bt/Nj)

364 354 Black Chicago residents are flipping the city red in the upcoming presidential election.
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Too bad 80% of Chicago voters* are government union workers, or they might be able to pull it off.

*probably an exaggeration

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 09, 2024 04:39 PM (6KESc)

365 I'd also run that clip of bite and putting the red MAGA hat on endlessly with some snarky narration.

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 04:39 PM (Gwk3C)

366 "do Shapiro and Whitmer really want Harris to win?"

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Gruesome Newscum for sure wants her to lose.
Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 04:38 PM (Gwk3C)

Gavin has a lot of shovel work to do for a White Dude from CA to get the nod nationally.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:39 PM (n7h9X)

367 The Democratic field was just as PO'd as voters that Harris was gifted the nomination.
Posted by: WisRich
......

You know Gavin was seething over it.

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:39 PM (v0R5T)

368
Whitmer, Nessel, and Benson are a single entity. They get together to watch the "Acolyte" and just know they could make a baby by wishing it but would rather wish an abortion.

Posted by: Auspex at October 09, 2024 04:39 PM (j4U/Z)

369 *Clip of Biden ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 04:40 PM (Gwk3C)

370 I would be shocked beyond words if Johnson wasn't Speaker again, and the guy turned full establishment the moment he met the big dollar donors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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He turned to ex Boehner staffers for early advice in how to shaft any reform.

Frankly I would rather have a punch drunk power mad Pelosi type as Speaker than what the GOP perpetually has produced since Gingrich.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:40 PM (bt/Nj)

371 nood

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 04:41 PM (CEzQx)

372 The standard Chicago cheat is: anyone who doesn't vote, is counted as a Democrat vote.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at October 09, 2024 04:41 PM (Da7Vv)

373 Will they be able to rise any further in the party if they intentionally and publicly stab the (even unlikeable) nominee in the back?
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They won't publicly stab Harris in the back unless they're idiots. They'll just supply tepid support ("two cheers for Harris") and impede efforts in their states to steal the election for her.

If Harris gets elected, their political careers will be on life support. If she loses, they can run in 2028.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:41 PM (YqDXo)

374 I would be shocked beyond words if Johnson wasn't Speaker again, and the guy turned full establishment the moment he met the big dollar donors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

Well even he's better than Ryan and we had the power to break the previous Speaker. He will go along more or get turfed.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2024 04:42 PM (n7h9X)

375 275 The number of people who even remember Nixon approaches zero annually.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Unfortunately, many of those politically undead reside in Congress, the executive branch, the national press corp, and the Beltway banditti.

Just like Ben Mankowitz cannot get the stick out of his ass about Sen. McCarthy and the blacklist which was far milder treatment to traitors than how they were treated elsewhere or in history in the US.

They use these things to justify doing evil today.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:18 PM (bt/Nj)
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His father ran McGovern's campaign. And as I understand it, his grandfather was an actual card-carrying communist.

The turd doesn't fall far from the asshole.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 09, 2024 04:42 PM (1bNHn)

376 Gruesome Newscum for sure wants her to lose.

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 04:38 PM (Gwk3C)
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Yep. Sorry I neglected to mention him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 09, 2024 04:42 PM (YqDXo)

377 Gallup used to call my house phone and I would make up answers to mess up their poll and their questions were always, to me anyways, push poll questions.
Posted by: CaliGirl

Non response on a question is a problem because usually they have to discard the entire interview.

Open ended questions are expensive to add (time is money) and produce odd results often ending with I don't know if the topic is new to the respondent.

So many of the questions are confirmatory and structured to give measurable responses (abc or agree disagree, rating/ranking, and so on) and the polling questions have often been used previously in other polls as to produce a) a complete interview, b) give repeatable evidence as far as trends.

Over the years, the polling worsened due to people losing the habit to talking to strangers over the phone rather than welcoming it. Scams, decline in trust, robocalls, spamming, etc mean most people screen their calls now. The old Random Digit Dialing no longer works to place people either due to area codes not matching geographic locations for a lot of people with cell phones or VOIP operations. Much harder to get a representative sample.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:47 PM (bt/Nj)

378 His father ran McGovern's campaign. And as I understand it, his grandfather was an actual card-carrying communist.

The turd doesn't fall far from the asshole.
Posted by: Eeyore
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Did not know he was spawn of that Mankowitz and not surprised he is a red diaper nepot. I knew there was another Hollywood Mankowitz that I thought he was related to.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 04:51 PM (bt/Nj)

379 My neighbors septic tank replacement is going to cost $80K.
Kalamama, why are septic tanks so expensive?
Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

What? Where is that?! I had my entire septic system replaced and it was under $10k.

Posted by: Lady Who Lurks at October 09, 2024 04:58 PM (JCLJi)

380 We need to spread the rumor in Philly that Kamala is a big Yankees/Giants fan.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at October 09, 2024 05:12 PM (Da7Vv)

381
I saw Drunk Abortion Sisterhood open for the Dixie Chicks at the Abilene Civic Center in '01.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 09, 2024 05:28 PM (eDfFs)

382
Mon, irae need someting.

Anyone got some Box Ganja?

Posted by: Dreadlock QueMala at October 09, 2024 05:31 PM (eDfFs)

383 nood - milton

Posted by: Gref at October 09, 2024 05:44 PM (aBgBM)

384 Something else to keep in mind. There's plenty of Dem's out there who don't want a Kamala win for their own political futures.

Anyone eying a run in 2028 doesn't want a Kamala win as that would make it very difficult for them. in 2028 Trump can't win, so you don't have a Republican incumbent. The last thing they want is a Democratic incumbent who ends up annointed like 2024.

These people include Newsome in California, Shapiro in Pennsylvania and Whitmer in Michigan. So the Dems in those states may not really push the fraud line to favour Harris.

Posted by: LordAzrael at October 09, 2024 09:01 PM (j1las)

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