Hollywood Hubris: Megaflopolis à Deux

Francis Ford Coppola sold his winery and put up $120 million of his own money to fund what he imagined would be his magnum opus.

Magnum opus more like magnum flopus am i rite

There are reasons to appreciate the effort. He says he wanted to make this movie for all viewers, and so he cast cancelled actors like Jon Voight and Shia La Boeuf. Note that Voight was cancelled just for being a Republican and Shia La Boeuf was cancelled for allegedly abusing women. These are equally cancel-worthy sins in Hollywood.

But the movie is apparently self-indulgent to the extreme and, as one critic said, feels like a college sophomore took his first philosophy course and decided to write a screenplay.

The $120 million (which doesn't even include costs for printing thousands of copies of the film or marketing and advertising) movie made $4 million its opening weekend.

As Vincent Carccotti says, that's as good as it gets and it won't ever get that good again.

In Francis Ford Coppola's allegorical, phantasmagorical fever-dream passion-project Megalopolis, Adam Driver portrays a visionary civic planner who can stop time with his mind and builds towering, surreally fluid cityscapes with the help of a mysterious substance called Megalon. Over the weekend, Ford's self-financed $136 million drama crumbled under the weight of its negative buzz, earning a paltry $4 million over its opening three days of release in 2,000 North American theaters.
To put that box-office return in perspective, Megalopolis ranked sixth behind Devara: Part 1, a three-hour Telugu-language action epic playing on about half as many screens. Moreover, such an underperformance fell wildly short of prerelease "tracking" estimates that had Ford's two-hour and 18-minute ensemble opus -- its cast includes Nathalie Emmanuel, Shia LaBeouf, Giancarlo Esposito, Laurence Fishburne, Dustin Hoffman, and Aubrey Plaza -- earning between $7 million and $10 million. Or, to put it another way, Megalopolis would have to continue selling tickets at the same rate for another 24 weeks, with no drop-off, to break even (not including its prints and advertising spend: another $30 million to $50 million).
Reputationally and financially, Megalopolis's 85-year-old writer-director-producer (and not the film's distributor Lionsgate) has the most to lose. The maverick American auteur behind Apocalypse Now and the Godfather trilogy began conjuring the movie's script back in the early '80s and borrowed $200 million against his Napa Valley winery business to personally bankroll Megalopolis's nine-figure budget when studio backers deemed the project too risky. Its production designer, visual effects supervisor, and supervising art director (in addition to the whole rank-and-file VFX team) quit during filming due to what has been characterized as an epic case of "creative differences" with Coppola. More damaging, background actresses came forward to accuse the octogenarian of repeated attempted nonconsensual on-set kissing during the filming of a Bacchanalian disco scene "to get them in the mood" (Coppola has strenuously denied the allegations). And a disastrous buyers' screening for 300 industry machers at Los Angeles's Universal City Walk IMAX in March left distributors pessimistic about Megalopolis's commercial prospects.
According to Comscore senior media analyst Paul Dergarabedian, however, focusing solely on Megalopolis's minuscule ticket sales and D+ CinemaScore may be missing the point. "That the movie even exists in theaters this weekend is kind of a miracle," Dergarabedian says. "I think a bold, swing-for-the-fences movie release should be celebrated."

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In post-pandemic, post-strike Hollywood, "Don't bring me your passion project," a producer behind a string of blockbusters tells me. "When I hear 'passion project,' I'm thinking, No fucking way. Nobody wants it. It's just gonna be some weird vanity thing that makes 25 cents [in] theatrical [release]. And I'm not doing the heavy lift."
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In an interview with The Wall Street Journal published before Megalopolis's megaflopolis, Coppola discussed a contingency plan for a "very useful" tax write-down if the movie flopped. "I'm very old, so it all goes into an estate plan," the director said.

Well, I think we would all like more movies which are based in actual passion and less on squeezing a YA reader IP until the blood turns to pudding.

But that passion must be tested by a question that Hollywood simply doesn't bother asking any longer, including in its corporate cashgrab would-be blockbusters:

Who is this for? Is there an actual audience for a videogame action movie starring 50 and 70 year old women, for example?

They just don't seem to care. Most of Hollywood is making movies not out of passion for the material, or even for crass money-making purposes, but only to satisfy some ideological propaganda goal and to appease 200 mentally-ill intellectually stunted savages on Twitter.

Update: A movie review from naturalflake:

We saw "Megalopolis".
It's a very well-shot, occasionally nicely directed complete failure where everyone's, and I mean everyone's dialog sounds like Marlon Brando's Colonel Kurtz dialogue from "Apocalypse Now". ie. full of little snippets of poetry or plays to sound all 'intellectual" and all the way a mid-wit thinks geniuses speak.
Though a few individual scenes might work, it's just a big mess.
The funniest thing is that the protagonist is more or less a funhouse version of Trump/Elon Musk and the antagonists funhouse versions of Democrat politicians and antifa/blm. Only Coppola to his horror doe not realize this until the movie is about to end.
So he loads up faux-antifa with "Make New Rome Great Again" signs , and gives his Democrat standing some "Trump-speak" itn the last few minutes but the cherry on the top is-
A New Globalist/Greentard Pledge of Allegiance to the Planet delivered by a children's chorus and printed IN BIG CAPITAL LETTERS on the screen.
*chef's kiss*
it really is the perfect end.
Hilariously sad. Wait till it streams for "free" to see.
Posted by: naturalfake

Ah. Yeah, the set up feels like The Fountainhead, which is obviously a right-wing storyline. Good to know that Coppola "fixes" The Fountainhead at the very end and makes it about a green revolution.

Speaking of:

You know what's really crazy?

When you direct a billion-dollar movie but critics and leftwingers (but I repeat myself) and Permanent Residents of Twitterstan say mean things about you like "You're inciting toxic manbabies!" and so you create a sequel not to please fans of your movie but to appease its worst, most toxic critics and then the fans hate it and the leftwing mob you tried to appease also hates it and now you've got a huge bomb on your hands.

While originally the new Joker sequel, Joker: Folie a Deux, seemed to be tracking a little bit behind the original, 61% critic scores compared to a 69% score, that has now changed drastically with more reviews pouring in for the sequel.
The film's scores have crashed all the way down to a 44% on Rotten Tomatoes one day ahead of its official release on October 4 (Update: now down to 39%). It's rare to see scores fall that much as more reviews come in past the initial batch, but critics are really not enjoying what they're seeing, it seems.
The film has been criticized for its story, musical numbers and extremely controversial ending, but mainly that it doesn't feel like it needs to exist at all.
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This low of a score means that it is far, far below that majority of DC offerings over the last decade or so. Here's the bottom ten list in that regard:
Aquaman -- 65%
The Flash - 63%
Wonder Woman 1984 -- 58%
Man of Steel -- 56%
Justice League (Whedon) -- 40%
Joker: Folie A Deux - 39%
Black Adam -- 39%
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom -- 33%
Batman V Superman -- 29%
Suicide Squad -- 26%

Lower than Josstice League. Ouch.

Apparently the movie is intended to Teach the CHUDs Who Liked the First Movie a lesson and turn Joker from a sympathetic wretch of an anti-hero into a pitiful loser that not even the CHUDs can like. Apparently the entire movie consists of calling the character a loser, literally -- there are times when other character berate him as a pathetic loser.

Many are calling Todd Phillips "spiteful" to the audience that made his movie a billion dollars in 2019 -- the sequel is a blunt insult to the old audience.

Always playing to that mythical Modern Audience that never actually shows up.

I have no dog in this fight -- I never bothered seeing the first one; I already saw and enjoyed Taxi Driver and King of Comedy, and I don't need to see a mash-up of those movies with a comic-book IP added to make it financially viable.

Todd Phillips' one stroke of genius was to see how King of Comedy -- a movie about a disrespected, unemployed, unfunny loser of failed comedian with mental health issues who turns criminal against a TV show host who mocked him in a bid for respect -- could be rewritten as a Joker movie.

Where did he get that brilliant idea from? How did he make that connection? He must have been visited by some galaxy-brained muse sent by God, because there's no way anything less than a divine genius could make the King of Comedy-Joker connection.

I mean, yeah, sure, it was part of the movie poster, but still.

The poster makes it explicit that the Talk Show Host is the king that the Joker needs to revenge himself on with a gun.

But a big part of creativity is just taking a movie and mixing in parts of that movie's promotional materials and bang, you've got yourself a highly original derivative work of art.

By the way, yes, the loser comic character from King of Comedy also has a fantasy relationship with a light-skinned black woman he has a crush on. Coincidentally enough.

And oh yeah: Yes, the sad, unfunny clown who uses a gun to take revenge on a talk show host becomes a media celebrity and a twisted folk hero at the end.

Yes I admit I didn't see the movie so I can't judge it but you have to admit -- I mean, it's the same frickin' movie.

Le Tigre? Magnum? Blue Steel? They're all the same face! Am I the only one who sees this? I feel like I'm taking crazy-pills over here!

BTW, do see King of Comedy! It's unbearable cringe, but gripping. And often darkly, sadly funny. This is why I just don't want to see Joker -- I saw it already, I saw the real version.

Anyway, I have no attachment to this version of Joker. I don't care if they trash this version of the Joker character. I barely care about the real Joker.

But it is weird that Todd Phillips let the Media Mean Girls clique bully him into losing the $200 million cost of this movie and making a box-office disaster to show his penance for his earlier success.

People really are weird, weak losers tormented by a society of aggressively-sub-mediocre fools and monsters, aren't they? I guess Joker 2's moral is true.

Here is some Is This Something? content, skewed towards the spooky.

This might be scary.

I hear Barbarian -- which was made by the same guy who did the movie above -- is very scary. But it sounds grim.

I usually can't take grim-scary any longer. I more want fun-scary.

Some YouTube idiot just played what I assume is the scary climax of Barbarian in a video without putting up a spoiler warning, so now that's ruined for me.

No but really, someone played the real climax. I wouldn't do that to you.

The new Clint Eastwood movie isn't a spooky movie, but it does have a scary premise: What if you were out driving in the rain and hit something you never even saw?

What if you then were summoned for jury duty for the murder of a woman who was killed and dumped beside the road?

What if you then began to suspect that you're actually the killer of that woman?

That's the kind of thing I don't like thinking about so I don't know if I'll be rushing to see this. Looks well-done, though.

They remade Salem's Lot. Again. They remade it in the 90s with Rob Lowe. (But with Rutger Hauer and Donald Sutherland as the vampires.)

But they re-made it again.

It debuted on Max last night.

I have no idea if it's any good. Mr. H claimed that reviewers said it was "fun" but also "almost a comedy." He had previously reported rumors that the movie had been very poorly received in test screenings -- a couple of years ago, I think -- and was deemed "unsalvageable." Maybe that's why it's being released on HBO Max instead of into theaters. I don't know. These were rumors. I know nothing about this, except that I really like the choice of song for the trailer.

But Suicide Squad had a good trailer song, too.

BTW, you can buy the original Tobe-Hooper-directed 1970s TV movie version of it. I got it on Amazon for like $6. You can probably rent it for $4. It's definitely a 1970s TV movie in terms of camerawork, but it has some very good -- famous, even -- scary moments.

This is spooky -- and true:

Posted by: Ace at 03:50 PM

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 04, 2024 03:51 PM (QNSds)

2 I do have to give him a shout out, he did put up some of his own $$$$ to film this $hit show.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 04, 2024 03:51 PM (QNSds)

3
The president is with governor shemp in Georgia now:

https://www.youtube.com/live/Ely837XUYbM?si=stdj4KipYp6gXOe4

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2024 03:51 PM (dQzv6)

4 "The $120 million (which doesn't even include costs for printing thousands of copies of the film or marketing and advertising) movie made $4 million its opening weekend."

Printing copies? Aren't all movies digital now?

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 04, 2024 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

5 If you want to make money on a self funded movie make sure the critics have it.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 04, 2024 03:52 PM (52RXy)

6 >>>Printing copies? Aren't all movies digital now?

hm, maybe you're (mostly) right. I know this part of the budget is called "Prints and Advertising" or P&A.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 03:52 PM (KRtlO)

7 But the movie is apparently self-indulgent to the extreme and, as one critic said, feels like a college sophomore took his first philosophy course and decided to write a screenplay.

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So, on par with The Matrix?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

8 Prometheus deserves a second look. There. I said it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 04, 2024 03:53 PM (+myjY)

9
Lots of missing people in GA.

Where the fuck are they??

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2024 03:53 PM (dQzv6)

10 Magnum opus more like magnum flopus am i rite
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I was thinking fagnum opus

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2024 03:53 PM (LCr8f)

11 Love Coppola, walked out after half-hour. First movie I've walked out on in years.

The Pitch Meeting short is pitch-perfect.

Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2024 03:54 PM (JI8/o)

12 >>>Magnum opus more like magnum flopus am i rite

OMG funny aceism

Posted by: m at October 04, 2024 03:54 PM (VnUSN)

13 We had a flotus that wore Magnums.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2024 03:54 PM (LCr8f)

14 4 "The $120 million (which doesn't even include costs for printing thousands of copies of the film or marketing and advertising) movie made $4 million its opening weekend."

Printing copies? Aren't all movies digital now?
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 04, 2024 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

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I'd imagine there are some 35mm prints struck for some limited purposes, but yeah, theatrical distribution is now digital.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

15 Adam Driver portrays a visionary civic planner who can stop time with his mind and builds towering, surreally fluid cityscapes with the help of a mysterious substance called Megalon.

already seen the megalon documentary. godzilla didn't like him.

Posted by: anachronda at October 04, 2024 03:55 PM (sGtp+)

16 I read some things of late that suggested Coppola was pretty based and fed up with the big woke fad in Hollywood. So I will withhold judgment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 04, 2024 03:55 PM (+myjY)

17 Every hollywood flop is good news.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 04, 2024 03:55 PM (JMAcK)

18 Phillips has open contempt for the fans of his movie that made a billion dollars.

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 03:55 PM (HJ9BW)

19 We can still talk about boobs, right?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 03:55 PM (v6JzV)

20 Best part of King of Comedy is Sandra Bernhard getting smacked around.

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 03:56 PM (HJ9BW)

21 16 I read some things of late that suggested Coppola was pretty based and fed up with the big woke fad in Hollywood. So I will withhold judgment.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 04, 2024 03:55 PM (+myjY)

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If it's anything, I'd bet it's more about him being a fossilized leftist from the 60s and 70s and doesn't understand the new strain of leftism.

That, combined with his money troubles with Hollywood extending back decades, and it's just kind of made him a natural antagonist to Hollywood who needs their support to do his stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

22 I have a Francis Ford Coppola story, his assistant wanted some wine from a local winery for himand my friend told his assistant that she'd put him on the waiting list and the response was this is for Francis Ford Coppola and my friend's response was Oprah is on the waiting list and you are going to be as well. They said their goodbyes and I believe Frances Ford Coppola himself called back and tried to get some wine and tell on my friend, didn't work, he didn't get the cult wine.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 04, 2024 03:57 PM (tMjDM)

23 in the sidebar

Forgotten 80s Mystery Click
Some time from now you'll bow to pressure
Some things in life you cannot measure by degrees

That video's a whole weird movie.

Posted by: m at October 04, 2024 03:57 PM (VnUSN)

24 Ugh, no thanks!

Instead, see “Reagan.”

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2024 03:57 PM (Hkcdp)

25 >>20 Best part of King of Comedy is Sandra Bernhard getting smacked around.

yeah that was good

that bitch be crazy

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 03:57 PM (KRtlO)

26 a three-hour Telugu-language action epic

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That sounds interesting.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 03:57 PM (lTGtQ)

27 Rupert Pupkin is alive and well and raving about Hitler in DC.

Posted by: Dr. Puffy Combs at October 04, 2024 03:58 PM (XYDmC)

28 "As Blue Lou Albano says, that's as good as it gets and it won't ever get that good again.”

Not to be pedantic, but Walken’s character was named Vincent Carccotti. He worked for Blue Lou

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 04, 2024 03:58 PM (tRd71)

29 I'd bet Coppola's kids are none to happy with him blowing through their inheritance on this waste of celluloid.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2024 03:58 PM (xCA6C)

30 >>>
Not to be pedantic, but Walken’s character was named Vincent Carccotti. He worked for Blue Lou

aw darn you're right.

Whoops!

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 03:58 PM (KRtlO)

31 Megalopolis is a stupid, unpronounceable name. Why would anyone choose such a name for a movie they want people to talk about and go see?

Reminds me of the skit in Hollywood Shuffle (very funny and underrated movie, btw) where the two black dudes are giving movie reviews for urban blacks and both agree that "Amadeus" is a thumbs down because they can't pronounce it. "If you want people to come and see it, a muthafucker got to be able to tell his woman where he's gonna take her."

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 04, 2024 03:58 PM (iFTx/)

32 I liked The Godfather movies. I also liked Dracula so I guess that makes me a Coppola fan.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 04, 2024 03:59 PM (52RXy)

33 Give me the Cesar Romero version of the Joker any day.

Posted by: Burt Ward at October 04, 2024 03:59 PM (ji3Wy)

34 a three-hour Telugu-language action epic

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That sounds interesting.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Nothing original in it. It's purely dravidian.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 03:59 PM (v6JzV)

35 I think I get half of what Coppolla was going for. He's trying to reskin and retell the last gasps of the Roman Republic. Only it's terrible. And nobody apparently was able to read the script and tell Francis that it's terrible.

Never has the loss of John Millius been felt so sharply in a film.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 03:59 PM (xcxpd)

36 f f coppola dropped about $23 mil c 1983 on a movie called "one from the heart." would have been fine as a tv movie of the week, but when the dust settled all coppola had left was the name of the studio. maybe tjm wants to comment

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 04, 2024 03:59 PM (CWTWj)

37 I really wanted to like it. People like Coppola and Scorsese need to hire a Loud American (like the Japanese companies do) to say: No. Stop this now. Edit this down. This makes no sense. Just stop.

Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2024 04:00 PM (JI8/o)

38 I'd bet Coppola's kids are none to happy with him blowing through their inheritance on this waste of celluloid.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2024 03:58 PM (xCA6C)

They still stand to inherit a bundle on royalties for all the Fredo memes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 04, 2024 04:00 PM (+myjY)

39 The weekend is coming if I can get home from Biden County

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2024 04:00 PM (Ye60E)

40
Major storm, people are drowning, missing, etc.

And the first question is: "how is your relationship with the governor (shemp)?"

Second "question:" "You talk a lot about the bad economy, but unemployment is at record lows and stock market is at at all-time highs."

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2024 04:00 PM (dQzv6)

41 yes he hired voight, la bouef and co, but he gave them terrible material to work with,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:00 PM (PXvVL)

42 My daughter has been on a 1930s horror movie kick. It’s been a lot of fun, especially since she found the Laurel and Hardy meet (insert your monster here) and she points out all the references to the original.

Anyway, enjoy your thread. I need to go teach the last class, which I am NOT motivated to do. It’s been raining all day on this metal roof and I could nap easily. But I just ordered a coffee from my favorite local place, it’s their take on the PSL- but it has butternut squash with the pumpkin. I did it 1/4 sweet, almond milk and raw cinnamon. It’s my treat for getting my lazy tail to work, like that is an accomplishment.

Posted by: Piper at October 04, 2024 04:00 PM (p4NUW)

43 35 I think I get half of what Coppolla was going for. He's trying to reskin and retell the last gasps of the Roman Republic. Only it's terrible. And nobody apparently was able to read the script and tell Francis that it's terrible.

Never has the loss of John Millius been felt so sharply in a film.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 03:59 PM (xcxpd)

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I really can't wait to see it, but the movie that I keep thinking of when people describe it is Tucker: A Man and His Dreams.

Except in this one, Tucker wins.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:00 PM (GBKbO)

44 LOL, second question to Trump:
The jobs report was good, would you admit the economy has improved and is better?

Glad to see MSNBC got a question in there.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2024 04:00 PM (Qlpv5)

45 Barbarian is actually fun-scary

honestly!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:01 PM (s3qiR)

46 36 f f coppola dropped about $23 mil c 1983 on a movie called "one from the heart." would have been fine as a tv movie of the week, but when the dust settled all coppola had left was the name of the studio. maybe tjm wants to comment
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 04, 2024 03:59 PM (CWTWj)

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Sent him massively into debt and he took directing jobs for studios for years to pay it off (Jack is the result of this).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:01 PM (GBKbO)

47 >>>45 Barbarian is actually fun-scary

oh okay, good to know. I hope having seen what looks like a major reveal doesn't ruin it.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:01 PM (KRtlO)

48 Yes Milius could have pulled it off, although any script doctor would have been at their wits end,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:01 PM (PXvVL)

49 Afternoon.

If Megalopolis is still in theater when I get home I'm going to see it. Same with Joker 2.

Anyone wanna come see 'em with me? I'll spring for popcorn.

A small one.

I'm not made of money.

Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2024 04:01 PM (Ziz8v)

50 We watched about half of Barbarian and had to turn it off. It was creepy but the characters were too stupid to be believed. Obviously Kamala voters.

Posted by: Megthered at October 04, 2024 04:01 PM (VihIQ)

51 Is Coppola's Dracula the only adaption that includes the American cowboy with a bowie knife that was one of Lucy's suitors? I think it is.

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 04:01 PM (HJ9BW)

52 51 Is Coppola's Dracula the only adaption that includes the American cowboy with a bowie knife that was one of Lucy's suitors? I think it is.
Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 04:01 PM (HJ9BW)

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Most adaptations combine Lucy's suitors into one character, usually someone primly British.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:02 PM (GBKbO)

53 wikipedia

The song [No Myth; Michael Penn] plays over the final montage and end credits of Amy Heckerling's 2000 romantic comedy Loser.

Posted by: m at October 04, 2024 04:02 PM (VnUSN)

54 also everyone please watch the original Speak No Evil not the stupid americanized remake

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:02 PM (s3qiR)

55 Is Coppola's Dracula the only adaption that includes the American cowboy with a bowie knife that was one of Lucy's suitors? I think it is.

I believe it is also the only one with a prime Winona Ryder running down steps in a negligee, and nothing else.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2024 04:02 PM (xCA6C)

56 49 Afternoon.

If Megalopolis is still in theater when I get home I'm going to see it. Same with Joker 2.

Anyone wanna come see 'em with me? I'll spring for popcorn.

A small one.

I'm not made of money.
Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2024 04:01 PM (Ziz8v)

Can we go see Am I a Racist instead?

Posted by: Piper at October 04, 2024 04:02 PM (p4NUW)

57 This is the wrong thread, but I'm hoping this reaches Ace. Can you please put up another thread on hurricane Helene? It is now confirmed by no less than Elon Musk that FEMA is stopping rescue efforts and confiscating supplies that were donated for the victims. FEMA stopped his engineers from landing to install starlinks, today and other supplies were also confiscated. This needs to be widely disseminated, and we need to contact whoever we can to put pressure on the government to stop this.

Posted by: Redbanzai at October 04, 2024 04:03 PM (58q8F)

58 I thought Magnum Opus was that show about a penguin who works as a private investigator in Hawaii

Posted by: muldoon at October 04, 2024 04:03 PM (uCfKO)

59 ah yes, Tucker, where he was about Robert downey jrs age when he played Iron, it should have done better,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:03 PM (PXvVL)

60 We're apparently seeing The Wild Robot this weekend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:03 PM (GBKbO)

61 >>>The song [No Myth; Michael Penn] plays over the final montage and end credits of Amy Heckerling's 2000 romantic comedy Loser.

i remember that movie for my introduction to the great Jimmi Simpson. I HATED him in that movie, on a personal level, but eventually became a fan.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:03 PM (KRtlO)

62 I believe it is also the only one with a prime Winona Ryder running down steps in a negligee, and nothing else.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2024 04:02 PM (xCA6C)

I knew there was a reason I keep watching it every year.

Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (Ziz8v)

63 As soon as a I saw a commercial for megalopolis I thought, holy shit this looks awful. One of those over indulgent pretentious movies that nobody likes except the director.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (pFg/0)

64 I thought Magnum Opus was that show about a penguin who works as a private investigator in Hawaii

Posted by: muldoon at October 04, 2024 04:03 PM (uCfKO)

Now that I would watch.

Posted by: spindrift at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (OguvZ)

65 Posted by: Redbanzai at October 04, 2024 04:03 PM (58q8F)

I saw that about Musk.... Something has to be done.. Unfortunately NC had a Dem Gov.

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (IyPmt)

66 And I like the original Crow movie. It hit me in the feels.

I don't think you can or should try to recapture that mix of action and tragedy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (xcxpd)

67 yes quincy morris is supposd to be a Texan,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (PXvVL)

68 In Francis Ford Coppola's allegorical, phantasmagorical fever-dream passion-project Megalopolis, Adam Driver...

===
'nuff said.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (zG664)

69 re 46: i thought 'rumble fish' was okay

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (CWTWj)

70 In Dark Knight Returns, Joker kills David Letterman.

Posted by: MikeN at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (HVZOH)

71 LOL, second question to Trump:
The jobs report was good, would you admit the economy has improved and is better?

Glad to see MSNBC got a question in there.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Yeah, the government managed to hire nearly 800,000 people in one month.

Or, maybe they made up that number so they would not be forced to declare a recession.

One or the other.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:05 PM (lTGtQ)

72 66 And I like the original Crow movie. It hit me in the feels.

I don't think you can or should try to recapture that mix of action and tragedy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (xcxpd)

=======

Gods of Egypt > The Crow

jk

But I do have a soft spot for the inane insanity of Gods of Egypt.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:05 PM (GBKbO)

73 57 This is the wrong thread, but I'm hoping this reaches Ace. Can you please put up another thread on hurricane Helene? It is now confirmed by no less than Elon Musk that FEMA is stopping rescue efforts and confiscating supplies that were donated for the victims. FEMA stopped his engineers from landing to install starlinks, today and other supplies were also confiscated. This needs to be widely disseminated, and we need to contact whoever we can to put pressure on the government to stop this.

this is malice.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:05 PM (s3qiR)

74 49 Afternoon.

If Megalopolis is still in theater when I get home I'm going to see it. Same with Joker 2.

dunno 'bout that, but my local theater is showing some artists remix of nosferatu with a rock soundtrack. i liked what they did to metropolis back when they did that to metropolis, so i will probably see it.

Posted by: anachronda at October 04, 2024 04:05 PM (sGtp+)

75 Well, I think we would all like more movies which are based in actual passion and less on squeezing a YA reader IP until the blood turns to pudding.

The Giver was a great movie. And I've only seen the first two Hunger Games movies but I'd say they were both good as well.

I'd rather more YA dystopias then more Marvel movies...

Oh, and if I'm asking for things could we stop living in a real life dystopia?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:05 PM (oZhjI)

76 @elonmusk

SpaceX engineers are trying to deliver Starlink terminals & supplies to devastated areas in North Carolina right now and @FEMA is both failing to help AND won’t let others help. This is unconscionable!!

They just took this video a few hours ago, where you can see the level of devastation: roads, houses, electricity, water supply and ground Internet connections completely destroyed.

@FEMA wouldn’t let them land to deliver critical supplies … my blood is boiling …
___

On X

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 04, 2024 04:05 PM (/QhWS)

77 Can we go see Am I a Racist instead?
Posted by: Piper at October 04, 2024 04:02 PM (p4NUW)

We can do all three.

In one day.

All while nursing the same small popcorn.

Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2024 04:06 PM (Ziz8v)

78 75 The Giver was a great movie. And I've only seen the first two Hunger Games movies but I'd say they were both good as well.

I'd rather more YA dystopias then more Marvel movies...

Oh, and if I'm asking for things could we stop living in a real life dystopia?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:05 PM (oZhjI)

=======

The Ender's Game movie is deeply underappreciated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:06 PM (GBKbO)

79 I believe it is also the only one with a prime Winona Ryder running down steps in a negligee, and nothing else.
Posted by: Archimedes

Mmmmmm...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:06 PM (v6JzV)

80 51 Is Coppola's Dracula the only adaption that includes the American cowboy with a bowie knife that was one of Lucy's suitors? I think it is.
Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 04:01 PM (HJ9BW)

It is. One of the few Dracula adaptations that actually includes that character from the book.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 04:06 PM (xcxpd)

81 But I do have a soft spot for the inane insanity of Gods of Egypt.

Gods of Egypt felt like a high budget spoof of Clash of the Titans and its like.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:06 PM (oZhjI)

82
Can we go see Am I a Racist instead?
Posted by: Piper at October 04, 2024 04:02 PM (p4NUW)

I'm dying to see that one too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (tMjDM)

83 Elon is pissed. I hope he lights a fire under someone's ass and gets something done. This has to be stopped.

Posted by: Megthered at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (VihIQ)

84 Tonight, I'm either watching Halloween H20 so I can complain to TJM about it. Or I'm watching 'Quatermass and The Pit'. I just watched the two previous Quatermass movies, they are pretty good sci-fi horror.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (xcxpd)

85 I say, Magnum, you left herring guts in the Ferrari again.

Posted by: Jonathan Quayle Binkley at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (OguvZ)

86
oh dear,

don't tell me You People like those "Divergence" movies, too?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (dQzv6)

87 "I hear Barbarian -- which was made by the same guy who did the movie above -- is very scary. But it sounds grim."

"Oh fuck dees guy!"

-- Conan

"Ja! Fook him!"

-- Fafhrd

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (iFTx/)

88 So guys prime Winona Ryder or prime Natalie Portman?

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (HJ9BW)

89 The Ender's Game movie is deeply underappreciated.

The left hate hate hates the guy that wrote that book. TBH I don't even remember why.

Meanwhile Pedo Arthur C Clarke is still in good standing of course.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (oZhjI)

90 aw darn you're right.

Whoops!”

Do better, Ace. Do better.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 04, 2024 04:08 PM (tRd71)

91
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal published before Megalopolis's megaflopolis, Coppola discussed a contingency plan for a "very useful" tax write-down if the movie flopped. "I'm very old, so it all goes into an estate plan," the director said.

So Coppola has turned into Uwe Boll

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2024 04:08 PM (y9nCu)

92 yes quincy morris is supposd to be a Texan,
Posted by: no 6

And he is the only one killed in the final showdown with Dracula (at least in the book, never seen the movie).

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:08 PM (v6JzV)

93 Aquaman -- 65%
The Flash - 63%
Wonder Woman 1984 -- 58%
Man of Steel -- 56%
Justice League (Whedon) -- 40%
Joker: Folie A Deux - 39%
Black Adam -- 39%
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom -- 33%
Batman V Superman -- 29%
Suicide Squad -- 26%
===

Didn't see even one of these.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2024 04:08 PM (zG664)

94 84 Tonight, I'm either watching Halloween H20 so I can complain to TJM about it. Or I'm watching 'Quatermass and The Pit'. I just watched the two previous Quatermass movies, they are pretty good sci-fi horror.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (xcxpd)

========

COME AT ME, BRO!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

95 >>> What if you were out driving in the rain and hit something you never even saw?

Dumb ass.

You walk against traffice, not with it and with your back to traffic.
If you see them coming it gives you a chance too dive into a ditch if it look like might hit your.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 04, 2024 04:08 PM (/lPRQ)

96 Gods of Egypt > The Crow

jk

But I do have a soft spot for the inane insanity of Gods of Egypt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:05 PM (GBKbO)

Eh. It's ok to like bad, cheesy movies.
I like Yambao and not a lot of people (besides me) would defend that movie as being good.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 04:09 PM (xcxpd)

97 Shia La Boeuf is a self important prick. I loved watching 4chan troll him for his "He cannot divide us" flags he hid in different areas with video feeds after the 2016 election. They tracked one of them down on top of a museum and flew a drone up to cut it down. He went into hiding in Sweden or Switzerland and set up a video conference with a little building where you could talk to him. They tracked him down and danced in front of the camera with MAGA hats.

Posted by: ryukyu at October 04, 2024 04:09 PM (s68pH)

98 >>> 88 So guys prime Winona Ryder or prime Natalie Portman?
Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (HJ9BW)

... "or" ???

Posted by: Morons at October 04, 2024 04:09 PM (FnneF)

99 A hearty and well-deserved lolgf.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 04, 2024 04:09 PM (i24o9)

100 for that reason,

yes you can't hate Gods of Egypt, but you have to take it in small doses

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:09 PM (PXvVL)

101 89 The Ender's Game movie is deeply underappreciated.

The left hate hate hates the guy that wrote that book. TBH I don't even remember why.

Meanwhile Pedo Arthur C Clarke is still in good standing of course.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (oZhjI)

======

Card said negative things about the gay movement. For that, he hates everyone and is bad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:09 PM (GBKbO)

102 So guys prime Winona Ryder or prime Natalie Portman?
Posted by: steevy

Portman had a prime?

Winona all the way.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:09 PM (v6JzV)

103 So guys prime Winona Ryder or prime Natalie Portman?
Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (HJ9BW)

Prime Winona Ryder, for sure.

Natalie Portman peaked in The Professional.

Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2024 04:10 PM (Ziz8v)

104 Posted by: Redbanzai at October 04, 2024 04:03 PM (58q8F)

I saw that about Musk.... Something has to be done.. Unfortunately NC had a Dem Gov.
Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2024 04:04 PM (IyPmt)

I'm aware and he is useless as tits On a bull, in addition, I called his office to register my displeasure as a North Carolina citizen and they hung up on me.

This goes well well beyond incompetence, though. This is active malevolence, that seems like they are trying to kill North Carolinians.

Posted by: Redbanzai at October 04, 2024 04:10 PM (58q8F)

105 A boob thread and a movie thread.. two things that aren't on my favorites list... See you all later

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2024 04:10 PM (IyPmt)

106 The Ender's Game movie is deeply underappreciated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

It was good, but I think one had to have read the book first to really get it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:10 PM (lTGtQ)

107 96 Eh. It's ok to like bad, cheesy movies.
I like Yambao and not a lot of people (besides me) would defend that movie as being good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 04:09 PM (xcxpd)

=======

I wouldn't call Gods of Egypt good, but it has its charms.

Knowing, though...that's a movie I unapologetically love.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

108 >>> 89 The Ender's Game movie is deeply underappreciated.
==
The left hate hate hates the guy that wrote that book. TBH I don't even remember why.

Meanwhile Pedo Arthur C Clarke is still in good standing of course.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (oZhjI)

iirc because Orson Scott Card is Mormon, and made some statement against gay marriage (or some other commie sacrament).

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (FnneF)

109 The Crow is just Robocop for goths

On a story-structure level, The Crow is superior.
Robocop in his movie doesn't interact with his antagonist until the later acts; in-between he interacts with the setting (=Detroit). Also there are scenes where the bad guys (Robocop's creator and Robocop's murderer) are jockeying for power against each other.
The Crow has a bird to guide its protagonist toward who needs killin'. Which is a contrivance but allowable in a supernatural story.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (gKWVE)

110 I got considerably less from that poster. No gun, no talk show, etc.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (Z8Yh2)

111 yes he lost his everloving mind at some point,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (PXvVL)

112 97 Shia La Boeuf is a self important prick. I loved watching 4chan troll him for his "He cannot divide us" flags he hid in different areas with video feeds after the 2016 election. They tracked one of them down on top of a museum and flew a drone up to cut it down. He went into hiding in Sweden or Switzerland and set up a video conference with a little building where you could talk to him. They tracked him down and danced in front of the camera with MAGA hats.
Posted by: ryukyu at October 04, 2024 04:09 PM (s68pH)

He's also converted to Catholicism and seems to be penitent. But who knows?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (xcxpd)

113 Joker has a much better lead actor than King of Comedy. Yes I know Angry Grandpa played in Joker also, but was much closer to acting as he is -- a smarmy, mean spirited, blowhard.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (wBaIH)

114 Shia La Boeuf was cancelled for allegedly abusing women.
.......

I thought he was gay.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (v0R5T)

115 Saw the 1931 Dracula on TCM the other night. Lugosi still defines that role.

No way I can see Lon Chaney, who was Browning's original choice, and who died before it went into production, playing Dracula.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (v6JzV)

116 re 46: i thought 'rumble fish' was okay
Posted by: gnats local
-----------
Diane Lane.

Posted by: scampydog at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (2bFN5)

117 Shia La Boeuf was cancelled for allegedly abusing women.
.......

I thought he was gay.
Posted by: wth

His name certainly is.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:12 PM (v6JzV)

118 This is a point that bears repeating.

The left tells us we normies need to be gotten rid of or the Earth will literally die.

Then they just "coincidentally" forget to test a new gene therapy for the Wu Flu or just don't have any money to help hurricane victims in fly over country. And people on the right talk about incompetence.

Believe them when they tell you they want to get rid of you by any means necessary and assume their actions match with that goal.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:12 PM (oZhjI)

119 The left hate hate hates the guy that wrote that book. TBH I don't even remember why.

Meanwhile Pedo Arthur C Clarke is still in good standing of course.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (oZhjI)

Card was opposed to gay marriage. Then they took an article he wrote and misquoted it so much they made it seem he was calling for the bloody overthrow of the US government should gay marriage be legalized.

Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2024 04:12 PM (Ziz8v)

120
Shoulda gone with "Megaflopolis", Francis.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 04, 2024 04:12 PM (4zrly)

121 Wait.

A movie about *the Joker* -- themost insane and unpredictable of Batman's criminal foes -- a movie about *the Joker* has musical numbers?

I'm out.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2024 04:12 PM (J2vNu)

122 Todd Phillips best movie is "Road Trip"

Posted by: brak at October 04, 2024 04:13 PM (NGHTx)

123 114 Shia La Boeuf was cancelled for allegedly abusing women.
.......

I thought he was gay.
Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (v0R5T)

He was molested as a young actor, which bent him. But he mostly had sex with women. Sometimes violently.

But he seems to have cleaned up his act.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 04, 2024 04:13 PM (xcxpd)

124 A boob thread and a movie thread.. two things that aren't on my favorites list... See you all later
Posted by: It's me donna
.....

Stick around. You can just go OT and rip on whoever you want.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024 04:13 PM (v0R5T)

125 A boob thread and a movie thread.. two things that aren't on my favorites list... See you all later
Posted by: It's me donna

Will you stay if we start making fish puns? 'Cause I can trout those out anytime.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:13 PM (v6JzV)

126 Megaflopolis à Deux is what my girlfriend called me when I climaxed, rolled over and caught forty zzzZZZzzz.

Posted by: Dr. Puffy Combs at October 04, 2024 04:13 PM (XYDmC)

127 >>> 86
oh dear,

don't tell me You People like those "Divergence" movies, too?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2024 04:07 PM (dQzv6)

I caught the last half of the first one watching teewee in a hotel; it looked like it had been made for about $10 and the actors borrowed from an infomercial.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 04, 2024 04:14 PM (FnneF)

128 But I do have a soft spot for the inane insanity of Gods of Egypt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Same. It's a beautiful mess. I wanted to hate it but it has it's own energy, 'sides I wish we had more ancient fantasies like it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2024 04:14 PM (IG4Id)

129 he was trying for the ambition of Fritz Lang, but he ended up in Robert Cimino terrirory, with the late Kris Kristofferson,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:14 PM (PXvVL)

130 115 Saw the 1931 Dracula on TCM the other night. Lugosi still defines that role.

No way I can see Lon Chaney, who was Browning's original choice, and who died before it went into production, playing Dracula.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:11 PM (v6JzV)

=========

Interesting factoid about that:

It was made in the earliest days of sound when studios were still figuring out how to sell the same movie to multiple countries. One thing they settled on for a while was multiple version of the same movie, filmed on the same sets at nearly the same time, with different casts. In Dracula's case, there's a Spanish version.

This becomes even more interesting because the American version was cut down when it was re-released a few years after it's original release to align with the Hays Office's dictums about appropriate content in film. The Spanish version never went through that process. Both exist.

Watching them back to back becomes really interesting because you can end up essentially seeing all of the missing stuff from the American version, sometimes even, I think, original shots from the American version.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:14 PM (GBKbO)

131 So another point in all this - Harley Quinn is a side character, a weak but well meaning woman literally driven crazy by The Joker to show just how manipulative and evil the Joker is.

And this...THIS...is the icon of stronk empowered wimmins now?

What the hell.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:14 PM (oZhjI)

132 Shia La Boeuf is a self important prick. I loved watching 4chan troll him for his "He cannot divide us" flags

-
His best performance ever!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 04, 2024 04:14 PM (L/fGl)

133 This goes well well beyond incompetence, though. This is active malevolence, that seems like they are trying to kill North Carolinians.
*****
This will prevent a lot of Trump voters from voting. It won't surprise me if they physically prevent them from going to the polls. They'll use the excuse of too dangerous to travel. And the absentee ballots have unexpectedly washed away or blown away. Kammie wins North Carolina.

Posted by: Megthered at October 04, 2024 04:14 PM (VihIQ)

134 I'm not sure who would want to molest Shiksa The Beef. I'm sure he was as annoying as a child as he is as an adult.

Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2024 04:15 PM (Ziz8v)

135
The president is with governor shemp in Georgia now

Which Preznint?

BiteMe?

Red Kammie?

Jaime from the Mail Room?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 04, 2024 04:15 PM (4zrly)

136 As for the west-NC state response, I think Mark Robinson has done good. I think he's made up for the dumb shit he did when he was younger.
I hope his campaign is going to focus on what kind of governor he's going to be, which is a good one, and less on his browser-history, which is bad, but hardly worse than (say) Eichenwald's.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 04, 2024 04:15 PM (gKWVE)

137 >>>Portman had a prime?

Lezzing it up with that That '70s Show chick = prime.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 04, 2024 04:15 PM (i24o9)

138 He was molested as a young actor, which bent him.

And this is the story of the part of Hollywood that wasn't born into it with connections or bought their way in with outside money.

Want to get somewhere in Hollywood? Better get ready to do things for producers and directors that you don't want to.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:16 PM (oZhjI)

139 yes Alex Proyas bit more than he could chew confortably,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:16 PM (PXvVL)

140 He was molested as a young actor, which bent him. But he mostly had sex with women. Sometimes violently.

But he seems to have cleaned up his act.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo
.......

Well, his parents named him Shia La Boeuf so I'm not surprised he had a rough childhood, too.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024 04:16 PM (v0R5T)

141 Aquaman -- 65%
The Flash - 63%
Wonder Woman 1984 -- 58%
Man of Steel -- 56%
Justice League (Whedon) -- 40%
Joker: Folie A Deux - 39%
Black Adam -- 39%
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom -- 33%
Batman V Superman -- 29%
Suicide Squad -- 26%
===

Didn't see even one of these.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2024 04:08 PM (zG664)

Not only have I not seen any I haven’t heard of some of them. What the fuck is Black Adam, Black Panther’s sidekick?

Posted by: Settled Science at October 04, 2024 04:16 PM (pFg/0)

142 Lezzing it up with that That '70s Show chick = prime.

Portman mails it in a lot. But she did bring her A game to that movie.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:16 PM (oZhjI)

143 I thought Jack Palance made a good Dracula.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 04, 2024 04:17 PM (52RXy)

144 What the fuck is Black Adam, Black Panther’s sidekick?
Posted by: Settled Science at October 04, 2024 04:16 PM (pFg/0)

Shazam's archnemesis.

Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2024 04:17 PM (Ziz8v)

145 "He's also converted to Catholicism and seems to be penitent. But who knows?”

yeah, I hated the guy for years, but he seems to be trying to turn his life around and I’m a fan of redemption.

He’s also very good in “Fury”, “Lawless” and “the Tax Collector”.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 04, 2024 04:17 PM (tRd71)

146 The premise of the Eastwood film sounds intriguing. Where they would go with it, I don't know. But it sounds much like the kind of thing Donald Westlake (in his non-comic novels) or Lawrence Block might once have done.

As for another version of Salem's Lot: The original TV miniseries was pretty awful except for James Mason as the vampire's majordomo, and David Soul made a pretty good Ben Mears (the novel's hero). But it captured none of that "These vampires aren't strangers, they're not exotic nobility with odd accents, they're my friends and neighbors and family!!!" Making it "almost a comedy" definitely ruins the vibe.

How was the Rob Lowe/Sutherland/Hauer version?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2024 04:17 PM (J2vNu)

147 Frank Langella Dracula is quite good, the ending of that version is stupid though

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 04:17 PM (HJ9BW)

148 Nobody bombs like Francis Ford Coppola. After his epic Godfather movies and The Conversation, Apocalypse Now was his downfall and you can see it in real time in the documentary Hearts of Darkness. Absolutely consumed by hubris. Never recovered.

Posted by: Jim Rose at October 04, 2024 04:17 PM (miqrx)

149 Not only have I not seen any I haven’t heard of some of them. What the fuck is Black Adam, Black Panther’s sidekick?

He's basically Arabic Shazam. And in his movie they make him Al Qaeda's Superman.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:18 PM (oZhjI)

150 We saw "Megalopolis".

It's a very well-shot, occasionally nicely directed complete failure where everyone's, and I mean everyone's dialog sounds like Marlon Brando's Colonel Kurtz dialogue from "Apocalypse Now". ie. full of little snippets of poetry or plays to sound all 'intellectual" and all the way a mid-wit thinks geniuses speak.

Though a few individual scenes might work, it's just a big mess.

The funniest thing is that the protagonist is more or less a funhouse version of Trump/Elon Musk and the antagonists funhouse versions of Democrat politicians and antifa/blm. Only Coppola to his horror doe not realize this until the movie is about to end.

So he loads up faux-antifa with "Make New Rome Great Again" signs , and gives his Democrat standing some "Trump-speak" itn the last few minutes but the cherry on the top is-

A New Globalist/Greentard Pledge of Allegiance to the Planet delivered by a children's chorus and printed IN BIG CAPITAL LETTERS on the screen.

*chef's kiss*

it really is the perfect end.

Hilariously sad. Wait till it streams for "free" to see.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2024 04:18 PM (eDfFs)

151 That shi sounds like Dark City

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 04, 2024 04:18 PM (ZITDL)

152 A boob thread and a movie thread..

Walk into a bar...

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 04, 2024 04:18 PM (X0uYX)

153 What the fuck is Black Adam, Black Panther’s sidekick?
Posted by: Settled Science
......

It's actually one of the worst movies I've ever watched for 5 minutes.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024 04:18 PM (v0R5T)

154 This will prevent a lot of Trump voters from voting. It won't surprise me if they physically prevent them from going to the polls. They'll use the excuse of too dangerous to travel. And the absentee ballots have unexpectedly washed away or blown away. Kammie wins North Carolina.
Posted by: Megthered

Sorry can’t count the votes no electricity. We’ll take them to Atlanta and count them over there.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 04, 2024 04:18 PM (pFg/0)

155 Someone need to make a Gilgamesh fantasy blow out movie....

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2024 04:18 PM (IG4Id)

156 As far as I know, Coppola is not a particular asshole and I hate to see him lose all that money. Pitch Meeting makes it sound absolutely abysmal.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (L/fGl)

157 Dark City was an awesome movie. Overshadowed by the first Matrix movie but I'd say it was better.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (oZhjI)

158 Magnum opus more like magnum flopus am i rite

5.1 out of 10 on IMDb.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (IB6XK)

159 Apocalypse now is good though...not the redux version

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (HJ9BW)

160 117 Shia La Boeuf was cancelled for allegedly abusing women.
.......

I thought he was gay.
Posted by: wth

His name certainly is.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

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Stupid me, I thought it was a girl.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (6pVO6)

161 157 Dark City was an awesome movie. Overshadowed by the first Matrix movie but I'd say it was better.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (oZhjI)

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eXistenZ > Dark City > The Matrix

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

162 His best performance ever!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 04, 2024 04:14 PM (L/fGl)

https://youtu.be/o0u4M6vppCI

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (i24o9)

163 Yes thats a strange film,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (PXvVL)

164 I still think about Dark City all the time

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (s3qiR)

165 157 I believe Matrix re used some of the sets

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (HJ9BW)

166 Trump rally going on at Rt1 and 202 in Delaware County Pa

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2024 04:20 PM (Ye60E)

167 156 As far as I know, Coppola is not a particular asshole and I hate to see him lose all that money. Pitch Meeting makes it sound absolutely abysmal.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (L/fGl)

He tried to have my friend fired from her job because she wouldn't give him wine ahead of a waiting list, and they used the do you know who he is line.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 04, 2024 04:20 PM (tMjDM)

168 166 Trump rally going on at Rt1 and 202 in Delaware County Pa

really!?!?

where at like a hotel or?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:20 PM (s3qiR)

169 Hollywood wants to piss away it's money , feel free. At least they aren't spending it on political bs

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 04, 2024 04:20 PM (O8bOp)

170 Intellectually-stunted savages on Twitter.

Heh.

Posted by: M. Gaga at October 04, 2024 04:20 PM (WJPXp)

171 I guess I should not go out tonite - how crazy is it?!?! Route 1 I can only think of that hotel there?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:21 PM (s3qiR)

172 I have far less time for a movie that urgently and expensively has to 'say' something boring and trivial that I'd roll my eyes at if any middle schooler started blathering on about it, than for a movie that only wants to say "weeeeee look at all the shit go flying".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2024 04:21 PM (DDGz9)

173 The best part of the original Joker movie wasn't the Joker...it was Gotham City as a character. It showed the moral and physical decay that a leftwing city literally becomes in all ways, and what that does to its remaining less mentally-stable residents...

The rip off from King of Comedy was a nice scene, but not why the Joker was iconic...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 04, 2024 04:21 PM (exHjb)

174 Dark City was an awesome movie.
.......

They're doing a remake starring Tim Walz called Dork City.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024 04:21 PM (v0R5T)

175 170 Intellectually-stunted savages on Twitter.

Is this the Stone-Age blonde thread again?

Posted by: gKWVE at October 04, 2024 04:21 PM (gKWVE)

176 Megatron > Megalodon > Megalon

Posted by: I Stand with No One at October 04, 2024 04:22 PM (1tjz1)

177 >>>>...and financially, Megalopolis's 85-year-old writer-director-producer has the most to lose.

Yeah, at 85 he has nothing to lose. It's his kids who are the big losers here once he kicks.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 04, 2024 04:22 PM (6pVO6)

178 eXistenZ > Dark City > The Matrix
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

Well screw you.

Posted by: The Thirteenth Floor at October 04, 2024 04:22 PM (gKWVE)

179 Aquaman -- 65%
The Flash - 63%
Wonder Woman 1984 -- 58%
Man of Steel -- 56%
Justice League (Whedon) -- 40%
Joker: Folie A Deux - 39%
Black Adam -- 39%
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom -- 33%
Batman V Superman -- 29%
Suicide Squad -- 26%

TBH I have seen most of these. Aquaman was fun but stupid. Man of Steel has decent acting from Cavill but Michael Shannon's character makes no sense just like the rest of the movie. And Justice League is...ok.

The rest of them? Not worth your time.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:22 PM (oZhjI)

180 Whatever happened to movies which you know, just entertained without saying something “important”.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 04, 2024 04:23 PM (pFg/0)

181 Someone need to make a Gilgamesh fantasy blow out movie....
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2024 04:18 PM (IG4Id)

Oh Humbaba Where Art Thou?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2024 04:23 PM (DDGz9)

182 Someone need to make a Gilgamesh fantasy blow out movie....

Come for the Priestess of Ishtar stay for Noah.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:24 PM (oZhjI)

183 The Barbarian trailer had music that makes you think it's a rom-com.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2024 04:24 PM (J2vNu)

184 Only Bulg and I even know where Telugu is spoken.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2024 04:24 PM (zG664)

185 180 Whatever happened to movies which you know, just entertained without saying something “important”.

well hoping that's The Wild Robot

to me that looks cute but I'm obsessed with Wall-E and The Iron Giant and Big Hero 6... I have some kind of thing for this particular genre!

oh and 9

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:24 PM (s3qiR)

186 I asked AI to generate an image of Justin Trudeau wearing a propeller beanie because he's a totalitarian retard. It wouldn't do it.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 04, 2024 04:24 PM (52RXy)

187 183 The Barbarian trailer had music that makes you think it's a rom-com.

it sort of is lol

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:24 PM (s3qiR)

188 Margot Robbie running around in tight shorts wielding a baseball bat got my attention for a few minutes.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024 04:25 PM (v0R5T)

189 I thought Slappy Emhoff abused women but great Caesar's ghost!

Townhall.com
@townhallcom
BIDEN: "I'm in constant contact with [Harris]. We’re singing from the same song sheet. She helped pass all the laws that are being employed now."
Biden and Harris are one and the same.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 04, 2024 04:25 PM (L/fGl)

190
Trump rally going on at Rt1 and 202 in Delaware County Pa
Posted by: Skip

Painters Crossroads -- know the area well!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 04, 2024 04:25 PM (4zrly)

191 I asked AI to generate an image of Justin Trudeau wearing a propeller beanie because he's a totalitarian retard. It wouldn't do it.

I did something similar with Queen Coconut as Marie Antoinette and it also would not do it..

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:25 PM (oZhjI)

192 I loved Joker with Juaquin Rivers. It’s very disappointing to hear that Joker 2 has been bastardized. Going to look for a Blu-ray of Joker, the original and purchase it. Spit.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at October 04, 2024 04:25 PM (usEY1)

193 The one thing that bugs me about the 1931 Dracula, though, is that it shows endemic New-World animals, like armadillos and opossums, hanging around Dracula's coffin in Transylvania.

I also dislike (and I think other versions have done this as well) the combining of the characters of Jonathan Harker and Renfield, in which the former (the visitor to Castle Dracula in the novel), transforms into the latter (an inmate of Dr. Seward's asylum in the novel.

Edward Van Sloan's Van Helsing, is great, however.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:25 PM (v6JzV)

194 Someone need to make a Gilgamesh fantasy blow out movie....
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2024

***
Have Patrick Stewart do the voice-over narration. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2024 04:25 PM (J2vNu)

195 the whole zach snyder interlude should have been buried in a trench after 300, James Wan does some interesting things with the first Aquaman,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:26 PM (PXvVL)

196 Interesting factoid about that:

It was made in the earliest days of sound when studios were still figuring out how to sell the same movie to multiple countries. One thing they settled on for a while was multiple version of the same movie, filmed on the same sets at nearly the same time, with different casts. In Dracula's case, there's a Spanish version.

This becomes even more interesting because the American version was cut down when it was re-released a few years after it's original release to align with the Hays Office's dictums about appropriate content in film. The Spanish version never went through that process. Both exist.

Watching them back to back becomes really interesting because you can end up essentially seeing all of the missing stuff from the American version, sometimes even, I think, original shots from the American version.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Yes, I know about the Spanish version, but have never seen it. Boobs?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:26 PM (v6JzV)

197
Someone need to make a Gilgamesh fantasy blow out movie....
Posted by: weft cut-loop

The creepy guy from The Smurfs?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2024 04:27 PM (dQzv6)

198 196
Yes, I know about the Spanish version, but have never seen it. Boobs?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:26 PM (v6JzV)

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No, no boobs.

What got cut was mostly shots of Dracula going in for a bite to the neck. Too sexual.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

199 Nosferatu looks like good scary fun.

Posted by: Tuna at October 04, 2024 04:27 PM (oaGWv)

200 is that too harsh, I don't think so,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:27 PM (PXvVL)

201 So Coppola made another Prometheus?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'I can fill a book with what I don't know' at October 04, 2024 04:28 PM (i8Z6c)

202 Whatever happened to movies which you know, just entertained without saying something “important”.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 04, 2024 04:23 PM (pFg/0)

Stripes, Animal House, Caddy Shack era. They could clean up with simple, fun movies like these.

But no.

Everyone has to crawl up his or her own ass trying to say something woke. Either that, or they are so lacking in creativity that they have to do updates of old movies, back stories, etc. All garbage.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 04, 2024 04:28 PM (i24o9)

203 199 Nosferatu looks like good scary fun.
Posted by: Tuna at October 04, 2024 04:27 PM (oaGWv)

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I always want to like Eggers' work more than I do.

Here's to hoping!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:28 PM (GBKbO)

204 it is not too harsh. Zach was good for like half a film

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:28 PM (s3qiR)

205 Margot Robbie running around in tight shorts wielding a baseball bat got my attention for a few minutes.
Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024

***
Whoa! Hold the Internet! Which movie is that -- her turn as Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad? She *made* that movie, and not only because of her hotness factor.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2024 04:28 PM (J2vNu)

206 Only Bulg and I even know where Telugu is spoken.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I am a huge language geek. Majored in linguistics.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:28 PM (v6JzV)

207 well can you even make funny movies now

you'd offend SOMEONE

you literally can't make the comedies of even just a decade ago

everything in media is run by hectoring pantywaists

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:29 PM (s3qiR)

208 I asked AI to generate an image of Justin Trudeau wearing a propeller beanie because he's a totalitarian retard. It wouldn't do it.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 04, 2024 04:24 PM (52RXy)
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So is Gavin Newsom, but in his case the beanie would slide off.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2024 04:29 PM (zG664)

209 the Hammer films break canon all over the place, it happens in Germany not Transylvania, because I guess they couldn't film behind the Iron Curtain, but they are kind of fun,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:29 PM (PXvVL)

210 I am a huge language geek. Majored in linguistics.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:28 PM (v6JzV)

I went to school with a dude from Hyderabad

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2024 04:29 PM (DDGz9)

211 >>> 184 Only Bulg and I even know where Telugu is spoken.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2024 04:24 PM (zG664)

Springfield, OH?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 04, 2024 04:30 PM (FnneF)

212 The best Dracula movies for boobage are the Hammer ones.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:30 PM (v6JzV)

213 212 The best Dracula movies for boobage are the Hammer ones.

lol or Warhol

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:30 PM (s3qiR)

214 Shia LaBeouf, don't follow movies so thumbed over to check out her images. Some kind of faggot name Shia, ugh.

Posted by: Braenyard - jobs report to be revised downward 3Xs at October 04, 2024 04:30 PM (NwuoC)

215 "Adam Driver portrays a visionary civic planner who can stop time with his mind and builds towering, surreally fluid cityscapes with the help of a mysterious substance called Megalon"

With a dynamite pitch like that, how can it miss?

Posted by: gp, Or Your Money Back at October 04, 2024 04:31 PM (g4sLG)

216 Some kind of faggot name Shia, ugh.
Posted by: Braenyard

Is engaged in a lifelong feud with his sister, Sunni.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:31 PM (v6JzV)

217 The oddest part of naming your kid Shia is...not being a Muslim.

But I guess there are a bunch of kids named Christian born to Euro-athiests nowadays as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:31 PM (oZhjI)

218 213 Warhol did a Dracula flick?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:32 PM (v6JzV)

219 Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn, after the badass woman supervillain Kitana boards the plane and threatens them all with death if they step out of line:

"She seems nice. . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2024 04:32 PM (J2vNu)

220 Adam Driver was very good in Silence and very bad in Star Wars.

But I don't really blame him for the latter.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:32 PM (oZhjI)

221 All I can say is, ...uhmmm.

Posted by: Braenyard - jobs report to be revised downward 3Xs at October 04, 2024 04:32 PM (NwuoC)

222 What got cut was mostly shots of Dracula going in for a bite to the neck. Too sexual.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

But John Carpenter could have his vampire going below-the-belt on a hot chick . . .

Posted by: to be fair, "Vampires" was awful at October 04, 2024 04:32 PM (gKWVE)

223 218 213 Warhol did a Dracula flick?

and Frankenstein!

available for viewing on Night Flight streaming channel

loads of nudity in both

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2024 04:33 PM (s3qiR)

224 "The $120 million (which doesn't even include costs for printing thousands of copies of the film or marketing and advertising) movie made $4 million its opening weekend."

Printing copies? Aren't all movies digital now?
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade

I'd imagine there are some 35mm prints struck for some limited purposes, but yeah, theatrical distribution is now digital.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

DCP, Digital Cinema Package. Before the Internet was fast & reliable enough, they shipped movies around on encrypted 500GB hard drives in military-spec enclosures.

Now they can send the info the same way we comment here.

Article from 2022 with too much detail, including how you can get your first indie movie converted to the DCP format and shipped out to theaters for $47:

https://is.gd/X02piw

Posted by: mikeski at October 04, 2024 04:33 PM (DgGvY)

225 If the magical city planning fleems are called Megalon, why is the city Megalopolis? Shouldn't it be Megalonopolis? Megalonia? Feh. Stupid movie.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2024 04:33 PM (DDGz9)

226 Todd Phillips previous film was Joker, his current film is Joker, and there is nothing listed as future directorial projects, so it appears, his career is going to die with Joker.

Or he could go back to making hangover films, but comedy is dead as well.

He could always apply to be a longshoreman.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 04, 2024 04:34 PM (XV/Pl)

227 Only Bulg and I even know where Telugu is spoken.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2024

***
I think we can be forgiven for that. I looked it up. That area of the world has one *hell* of a lot of languages.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2024 04:34 PM (J2vNu)

228 Shia LA Beouf reminds me Sir Loin d Beouf from a Bugs Bunny cartoon m

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 04, 2024 04:34 PM (52RXy)

229 BIDEN: "I'm in constant contact with [Harris]. We’re singing from the same song sheet. She helped pass all the laws that are being employed now."
Biden and Harris are one and the same.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

If she wins: told you MFers I could win.

She loses: where's my Geritol

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 04, 2024 04:34 PM (JkCto)

230 Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn, after the badass woman supervillain Kitana boards the plane and threatens them all with death if they step out of line:

Speaking of Kitana I wonder if they are going to make more Mortal Kombat movies? The last one was decent.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:34 PM (oZhjI)

231
This becomes even more interesting because the American version was cut down when it was re-released a few years after it's original release to align with the Hays Office's dictums about appropriate content in film. The Spanish version never went through that process. Both exist.

Watching them back to back becomes really interesting because you can end up essentially seeing all of the missing stuff from the American version, sometimes even, I think, original shots from the American version.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

I'm trying to imagine what the Hays code would want to cut from Dracula.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:34 PM (lTGtQ)

232 i added naturalflake's review. Thanks!

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:34 PM (KRtlO)

233 226 Todd Phillips previous film was Joker, his current film is Joker, and there is nothing listed as future directorial projects, so it appears, his career is going to die with Joker.

Or he could go back to making hangover films, but comedy is dead as well.

He could always apply to be a longshoreman.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 04, 2024 04:34 PM (XV/Pl)

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Eh. He's far from being in director jail, I think.

He also seems like a mewling coward when it comes to leftist forces. He didn't get where he is by talent.

He knows who to blow to get $50 million for his next movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

234 The Eastwood movie premise sounds like an old Criminal Minds episode that I barely remember, where a man was driving home at night, thought he might have hit/killed someone, was racked by guilt, and started drinking. But the team solved the mystery and saved the day, it was actually a serial killer (shock!) who was running folks over.

Posted by: MammaB at October 04, 2024 04:35 PM (KsJGI)

235 231 I'm trying to imagine what the Hays code would want to cut from Dracula.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:34 PM (lTGtQ)

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It's snippets of moments. Dracula going in to suck someone's neck.

The Hays Office started VERY sensitive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:36 PM (GBKbO)

236 Whoa! Hold the Internet! Which movie is that -- her turn as Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad? She *made* that movie, and not only because of her hotness factor.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
.......

Now there is a super heroine I could get behind.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024 04:36 PM (v0R5T)

237 I'm trying to imagine what the Hays code would want to cut from Dracula.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024

***
As TJM mentioned, the neck-bite scenes. I watched it again recently on Svengoolie, and noticed there was not a single throat-nip scene at all.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2024 04:36 PM (J2vNu)

238 >>234 The Eastwood movie premise sounds like an old Criminal Minds episode that I barely remember, where a man was driving home at night, thought he might have hit/killed someone, was racked by guilt, and started drinking. But the team solved the mystery and saved the day, it was actually a serial killer (shock!) who was running folks over.

I imagine that will be the basic plot here. I bet what he hit was the killer, who was injured but not killed and made it home alive.

There's a bit of I Know What You Did Last Summer in that plot.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:37 PM (KRtlO)

239 237 As TJM mentioned, the neck-bite scenes. I watched it again recently on Svengoolie, and noticed there was not a single throat-nip scene at all.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2024 04:36 PM (J2vNu)

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The Spanish version has 'em all!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

240
Haven't seen or read about "Joker 2" but based on what I read here I'm calling the ending now:

Harley Quinn shoots Arthur in the head like he shot Crusty DeNiro because Arthur is a loser and not all cool and such like his Joker persona in real life.

I guess I'll find out when it streams.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2024 04:37 PM (eDfFs)

241 238 There's a bit of I Know What You Did Last Summer in that plot.
Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:37 PM (KRtlO)

=======

I watched that for the first time a couple of days ago while working.

I started a fight about which girl was hotter round these parts.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

242 It's snippets of moments. Dracula going in to suck someone's neck.

The Hays Office started VERY sensitive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Considering what got on film that caused the Hays code, I guess that makes sense, but that is a bit too much.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:38 PM (lTGtQ)

243 @233

>>He also seems like a mewling coward when it comes to leftist forces. He didn't get where he is by talent.

Yeah, but they no longer allow the films that would play to his strengths be made.

He could have really made a statement with Joker 2 instead he cucked his own creation, sad.

I have heard that as bad as it is, Phoenix still manages to turn in a very good performance with the garbage he was given.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 04, 2024 04:38 PM (XV/Pl)

244 I started a fight about which girl was hotter round these parts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

A fight between people who said Neve Campbell, and those who were wrong?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2024 04:38 PM (DDGz9)

245 Since this is a movie thread, I rewatched Paper Moon. I think it holds up. If you want to see a movie about real people that tells a story with a few twists, this will do. Nothing woke and it takes you into the Depression era. Bonus; Madeline Kahn in a satin blouse that reminds you of the term "sweater puppies"

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 04, 2024 04:39 PM (gfViB)

246 Companion looks like a snazzy version of "Badlands"(1973)

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2024 04:39 PM (eDfFs)

247 I like Apocalypse Now, but I think it was Coppola's "gateway" movie in that he stopped wanting to film interesting stories and instead went completely into visuals and style.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 04, 2024 04:39 PM (CHHv1)

248 Oh wait I'm thinking of Scream.

I think.

I don't know.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2024 04:39 PM (DDGz9)

249 >>>I started a fight about which girl was hotter round these parts.

obviously Jennifer Love or whatever her name is.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:39 PM (KRtlO)

250 because its a tribute to Metropolis, see Fritz Lang, but it went way off the rails,

like that upcoming last orson welles film,

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:39 PM (PXvVL)

251 If this new Eastwood flick is 90 pct as good as Midnight in The Garden of Good and Evil, it'll be a fine bookend to his career.

The cast is stellar, so he's got a shot.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 04, 2024 04:40 PM (XV/Pl)

252 249 >>>I started a fight about which girl was hotter round these parts.

obviously Jennifer Love or whatever her name is.
Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:39 PM (KRtlO)

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I think she has a butterface.

It's obviously Sarah Michelle Gellar.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:40 PM (GBKbO)

253 >>Since this is a movie thread, I rewatched Paper Moon. I think it holds up.

a friend of mine watched that this year and highly recommended it.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:40 PM (KRtlO)

254 Shia LaBeouf, don't follow movies so thumbed over to check out her images. Some kind of faggot name Shia, ugh.
Posted by: Braenyard

You have to consider the last name, too. What cute girl actress, who would have changed her name to something cinema-friendly, would call herself "The Beef?"

Posted by: mikeski at October 04, 2024 04:41 PM (DgGvY)

255 The OSS 117 sequel was the same, as was the sequel to Pirates of the Caribbean.

And Douglas Adams made a career out of trashing his most popular character, when he found out that readers actually found Zaphod Beeblebrox to be rather awesome.

Posted by: J at October 04, 2024 04:41 PM (tEB0M)

256 253 >>Since this is a movie thread, I rewatched Paper Moon. I think it holds up.

a friend of mine watched that this year and highly recommended it.
Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:40 PM (KRtlO)

=======

Criterion's releasing a 4K of it later this year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

257
He could have really made a statement with Joker 2 instead he cucked his own creation, sad.

Imagine Joker 2 as the media making insane loser Arthur Dent into a martyr to take down reformer Wayne so he can't save the city and instead install some corrupt mobbed up leftwinger...played by Lady Gaga in a fat suit channeling the Penguin.

Now that would be something...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:41 PM (oZhjI)

258 obviously Jennifer Love or whatever her name is.
Posted by: ace
......

I call her Chesty.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024 04:41 PM (v0R5T)

259 When you direct a billion-dollar movie but critics and leftwingers (but I repeat myself) and Permanent Residents of Twitterstan say mean things about you like "You're inciting toxic manbabies!" and so you create a sequel not to please fans of your movie but to appease its worst, most toxic critics and then the fans hate it and the leftwing mob you tried to appease also hates it and now you've got a huge bomb on your hands.

Never does it enter the Director's mind that the critic xe is trying to reach only consider the Project to be the critic's canvas where they can showcase their snark, contempt and smears to impress their retarded peers.

Doesn't matter what they make, the Directory must include shit so that the critics have something to whine about. If the Director attempts to make the critic's perfect movie, they will pan it because it doesn't suit their needs for attention.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 04, 2024 04:42 PM (rHxhM)

260 A fight between people who said Neve Campbell, and those who were wrong?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2024 04:38 PM (DDGz9)

She turned 51, yesterday; still looking good. Happy birthday.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 04, 2024 04:42 PM (i24o9)

261 I don't know about the movie but Coppola's winery is worth a visit if you're in the neighborhood.

https://tinyurl.com/38ja2c4b

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 04, 2024 04:42 PM (NuJDZ)

262 >>>I like Apocalypse Now, but I think it was Coppola's "gateway" movie in that he stopped wanting to film interesting stories and instead went completely into visuals and style.

Unpopular take on Apocalypse Now:

It's guy movie, and it's also an art movie, so guys feel safe saying it's a great movie. Like it's a pick you can't assail for being weak or dumb.

But... the reality is, it's a messy film with a couple of good parts and long slogs of not much going on.

If you asked me to watch Godfather (1) right now, I'd say sure.

If you asked me to watch Apocalypse Now, I'd say no. It's a drag.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:42 PM (KRtlO)

263 @253

>>a friend of mine watched that this year and highly recommended it.

It's Bogdanovich, objectively, he hasn't made a bad film.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 04, 2024 04:42 PM (XV/Pl)

264 Dracula going in to suck someone's neck.

The Hays Office started VERY sensitive.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 04, 2024 04:36 PM

They didn't like the "hawk-tuah" sound effect?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2024 04:42 PM (a3Q+t)

265 One can't really make a list of the best films without discussing Killer Klowns from Outer Space.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:42 PM (lTGtQ)

266 184 Only Bulg and I even know where Telugu is spoken.

Southern Injah. Yes, I confirmed it, but I already knew it was there.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2024 04:43 PM (xCA6C)

267 Only Bulg and I even know where Telugu is spoken.

I know! I know! Birmingham, England!

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:44 PM (lTGtQ)

268 Only Bulg and I even know where Telugu is spoken.

I do notice a lot of foreign films showing up in local theaters.

No idea how much is Hollywood having few new ideas and how much is our "newcomers/refugees" wanting to watch movies from back home.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:44 PM (oZhjI)

269 85?
He was just a kid when he made "The Godfather".
He should be doing a little fishing, playing with the great grandkids, sitting in the sun drinking wine- oh, sorry, he sold the vineyard.
The important thing is to know when to quit.

Posted by: sal, who watches way too much TCM at October 04, 2024 04:44 PM (f+FmA)

270 A fight between people who said Neve Campbell, and those who were wrong?

Pretty enough, but no waist. Same as Elisha Cuthbert and Tea Leoni.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2024 04:45 PM (xCA6C)

271 One can't really make a list of the best films without discussing Killer Klowns from Outer Space.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
.....

and Mars Needs Women.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2024 04:45 PM (v0R5T)

272 One can't really make a list of the best films without discussing Killer Klowns from Outer Space.

Nothing beats the Director's Cut of "Birdemic".

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 04, 2024 04:45 PM (rHxhM)

273 A fight between people who said Neve Campbell, and those who were wrong?

Hmm...Wild Things...haven't thought about that movie in a while

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:45 PM (oZhjI)

274 And 'Metropolis' on the big screen is awesome.

Posted by: sal, who watches way too much TCM at October 04, 2024 04:46 PM (f+FmA)

275 If you asked me to watch Apocalypse Now, I'd say no. It's a drag.
Posted by: ace

I agree. Boring parts outweigh the action parts 10:1

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 04, 2024 04:46 PM (/U5Yz)

276 I haven't seen Paper Moon since it came out. I just was sucked right into the story and it blotted out all the stuff going on in the world right now. That's what movies should do.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 04, 2024 04:46 PM (gfViB)

277 TJM, you ever watch any Bollywood stuff?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:47 PM (v6JzV)

278 No idea how much is Hollywood having few new ideas and how much is our "newcomers/refugees" wanting to watch movies from back home.

Posted by: 18-1

Birmingham is majority indian and mohammedan.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:47 PM (lTGtQ)

279 But this is the thing. HR rules almost ALL companies. They do not care if a profit is made. They do not care about telling a good story. THEY WILL rule and everyone else better walk softly or they will destroy them.

And when the company tanks, they will move on to another. At least until no more are left.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 04, 2024 04:47 PM (PDf99)

280 @257

>>Now that would be something...

There are so many directions he could have gone and so many compelling stories he could have told, instead, he told a boring story, put a singer in a lead role who can't really act, so that he could bizarrely include musical numbers that apparently add nothing and tend to derail whatever narrative he was attempting.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 04, 2024 04:47 PM (XV/Pl)

281
I'll mention "The Substance" again. It's well-worth seeing.

Imagine "All About Eve" written and directed by David Cronenberg.

That's right. It's a gloppy, gross body horror movie made especially to appeal to the Ladies.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (eDfFs)

282 Apocalypse Now is a way for guys to signal that they're definitely macho guys, but they're refined enough to enjoy art.

But if you inject them with truth serum, they'll tell you it's boring and they haven't watched it since college.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (KRtlO)

283 And 'Metropolis' on the big screen is awesome.
Posted by: sal, who watches way too much TCM

Aren't they still trying to restore the full version.

Always found that flick tedious as hell.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (v6JzV)

284 Just saw this on an X post:

Local Sheriffs have threatened to arrest FEMA workers if they hinder rescue and aid work.

And I watched them rescue a guy trapped in his car in the river in Asheville. There are still folks we can help, if we can get FEMA out of the way

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (gfViB)

285 Only Bulg and I even know where Telugu is spoken.

The ocean?

Posted by: Beluga Whale at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (v0R5T)

286 Local Sheriffs have threatened to arrest FEMA workers if they hinder rescue and aid work.

Imagine trying to explain this headline to people 20 years ago...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2024 04:49 PM (oZhjI)

287 oh -- I do *like* Apocalypse Now. But there's where I think it should be rated, as movies you like, not as "great movies" or "one of my favorites."

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:49 PM (KRtlO)

288 If you want a fascinating and depressing movie, watch Sarah's Key.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:49 PM (lTGtQ)

289 The monologue for AN always got me. People lampoon Blade Runner theatrical version for it, but in this piece of shit we are supposed to like it. The movie has a couple good quotes, but it is pretty miserable and yes, fucking boring. Also nihilistic and a few other things.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 04, 2024 04:49 PM (PDf99)

290 Only Bulg and I even know where Telugu is spoken.

The ocean?

More specifically, the Caspian Sea.

Posted by: Beluga Caviar at October 04, 2024 04:49 PM (xCA6C)

291 >>> 284 Just saw this on an X post:

Local Sheriffs have threatened to arrest FEMA workers if they hinder rescue and aid work.

And I watched them rescue a guy trapped in his car in the river in Asheville. There are still folks we can help, if we can get FEMA out of the way
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (gfViB)

Insurrection!!!

Posted by: leftists at October 04, 2024 04:49 PM (FnneF)

292 Megalon? How is Adam Driver gonna build something with Godzilla's archenemy?

Posted by: callsign claymore at October 04, 2024 04:50 PM (3Yj85)

293 288 If you want a fascinating and depressing movie, watch Sarah's Key.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:49 PM (lTGtQ)

Have anything to do with Roller skates?

Posted by: Melanie at October 04, 2024 04:50 PM (PDf99)

294 And I watched them rescue a guy trapped in his car in the river in Asheville. There are still folks we can help, if we can get FEMA out of the way
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (gfViB)

Insurrection!!!

Posted by: leftists

Get used to it.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2024 04:50 PM (xCA6C)

295
There's a 4K version of "Paper Moon" releasing soon.

It'd be a double dip, which I hate. But, I like PM enough to consider it.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2024 04:50 PM (eDfFs)

296 Apocalypse Now is a way for guys to signal that they're definitely macho guys, but they're refined enough to enjoy art.

But if you inject them with truth serum, they'll tell you it's boring and they haven't watched it since college.

Posted by: ace

I would enjoy seeing a true to the book version of The Heart of Darkness, but I imagine it could not be made now.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:50 PM (lTGtQ)

297 I like the Cat From Outer Space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NfQSurV6Ck

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 04, 2024 04:50 PM (/U5Yz)

298 Goths need love and machine guns just like anybody.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 04, 2024 04:50 PM (J8LnB)

299 But if you inject them with truth serum, they'll tell you it's boring and they haven't watched it since college.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (KRtlO)

I watch it every few years, sometimes multiples in a year, but its the redux version. I haven't seen the theatrical since the 90s I believe. Same with Blade Runner.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 04, 2024 04:51 PM (i24o9)

300 Tatum O'Neal grew into a rather nice-looking woman.

Then she married McEnroe.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:51 PM (v6JzV)

301 And I watched them rescue a guy trapped in his car in the river in Asheville. There are still folks we can help, if we can get FEMA out of the way
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (gfViB)

people are still stranded in rivers, and it's been days. No food, no water, probably no sleep.... good god. Imagine finding out after you get rescued that no one could get to you for days because FEMA said the right forms weren't filled out and they'd arrest anyone who tried to rescue you.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2024 04:51 PM (DDGz9)

302 I saw Twisters a couple weeks ago. While I enjoyed it, I was struck that they soft peddled the romance. This seems to be a common thing these days so they do not offend anyone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 04, 2024 04:51 PM (PDf99)

303 If you want a fascinating and depressing movie, watch Sarah's Key.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:49 PM (lTGtQ)

Have anything to do with Roller skates?

Posted by: Melanie

No, it is about a family torn apart when the Nazis started rounding up Jews in Paris in 1940.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:51 PM (lTGtQ)

304 No, it is about a family torn apart when the Nazis started rounding up Jews in Paris in 1940.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:51 PM (lTGtQ)

I think I would have preferred roller skates (or the metaphor.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 04, 2024 04:52 PM (PDf99)

305 The thing that knocks me out about Joseph Conrad is that he became a classic English novelist despite the fact that English was not his native language. Polish was.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:53 PM (v6JzV)

306 Watch Sarah Ski.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2024 04:54 PM (EzXHB)

307 ive tried to see Metropolis twice on TCM, but it was a long film even for 1927

Posted by: no 6 at October 04, 2024 04:54 PM (PXvVL)

308 OT: why do they keep trying to make smart glasses a thing. Stop it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 04, 2024 04:54 PM (PDf99)

309 We saw the new version of "Salem's Lot" last night.

Not great, not awful. Just okay.

Its main flaw is that it's weirdly edited so that the gore and violence isn't clearly seen or seen at all. Like it was a TV movie from the 70s.

Solid meh.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2024 04:55 PM (eDfFs)

310 Cabinet of Dr. Caligari >>>> Metropolis

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:56 PM (v6JzV)

311 People only like short Poles.

Nobody wants to touch a ten-foot Pole.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2024 04:56 PM (a3Q+t)

312 But if you inject them with truth serum, they'll tell you it's boring and they haven't watched it since college.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (KRtlO)

There's a director's cut that's even more boring.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2024 04:56 PM (d9fT1)

313 283 And 'Metropolis' on the big screen is awesome.
Posted by: sal, who watches way too much TCM
Aren't they still trying to restore the full version.

Always found that flick tedious as hell.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (v6JzV)

I won't disagree, but I watch it mostly for the visuals, not the story.

Posted by: sal, who watches way too much TCM at October 04, 2024 04:57 PM (f+FmA)

314 >>>There's a director's cut that's even more boring.

I AM AWARE

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:57 PM (KRtlO)

315 Poles are pro-stripper.

They are for strippers.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 04:57 PM (v6JzV)

316 I played golf with Burt Gilliam once. He was the inn keeper in Paper Moon. He was a Dallas firefighter at the time and he went to a casting call for extras. He ended up getting an Oscar nom for it. Then one day this guy named Mel Brooks called and the rest is history.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 04, 2024 04:57 PM (2UnvF)

317
I would enjoy seeing a true to the book version of The Heart of Darkness, but I imagine it could not be made now.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:50 PM (lTGtQ)

I haven't seen them but I believe there were two "Heart of Darkness" movies made after "Apocalypse Now"

One stars john Malcovich, IIRC.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2024 04:58 PM (eDfFs)

318 I cannot emphasize enough how much I am sick of the anti-hero hero movie genre, and the general dismalness of the last decade of movies.

Where the hell are the fun movies? The original movies? The feel-good, cheer for the (genuinely) good guy movies? You can count them on one finger: Top Gun: Maverick. There's no Raiders of the Lost Ark. There's no Star Wars (the original). No Harry Met Sally or Forrest Gump. It's all Evil, Evil II, Purge 1-15, Fast & Stupidness XIV, Batman v Superman v Wolverine v SomeGuyYouNeverHeardOf.

I just saw on Not The Bee that there's a new movie coming out that actually comes with a health warning. Our culture is inescapably bereft of a moral compass, and we just keep feeding it with evil or inane. Why would anyone expect anything else?

Posted by: red speck at October 04, 2024 04:58 PM (0Id0S)

319 it's a good movie. But that's it. it's a good, ambitious but flawed movie.

Coppola just keeps trying to make art films and isn't any good at it.

I mean, let's be serious: Has he really ever done anything close to the Godfather? And my other unpopular opinion is that the Godfather Part II is also boring and scattered and messy.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:58 PM (KRtlO)

320 I haven't seen them but I believe there were two "Heart of Darkness" movies made after "Apocalypse Now"

One stars john Malcovich, IIRC.

Posted by: naturalfake

I'm going to look that one up, thanks

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2024 04:59 PM (lTGtQ)

321 Heart of Darkness is a good (short) book.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:59 PM (KRtlO)

322 But if you inject them with truth serum, they'll tell you it's boring and they haven't watched it since college.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2024 04:48 PM (KRtlO)

There's a director's cut that's even more boring.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2024 04:56 PM (d9fT1)

Wholly Kau, yes!

That, what?, hour long detour to the French woman's home is awful.

My bid for the most boring and pointless episode ever placed into a movie.

It contributes nothing.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2024 05:00 PM (eDfFs)

323 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 04, 2024 05:01 PM (PDf99)

324 I'm not racist is a funny movie, if you're not a leftist. FenSpouse and I laughed a lot.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2024 05:02 PM (MQJVv)

325 The weird thing, to me, about Apocalypse Now, is that it has an uncredited appearance by Harrison Ford AFTER Star Wars.

You'd think Coppolla would've wanted to puff the box office by having Ford's name up there in the credits.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2024 05:02 PM (v6JzV)

326 There's never an editor's direction cut. You don't have the editor poking into the shot saying "maybe try to sound a little less gay this time so i can put it in my good version" or whatever. But the director plays editor for a day and it's magically better.

The editor is there to say "yeah sure you think watching a boat drift down a river for nine minutes while no one says anything is gonna tell your story. It won't. You're not Werner Herzog, and that little coked up nepot ain't Kinski. Leave the editing to me."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2024 05:03 PM (DDGz9)

327 Movies and Video games... it's almost like the ones who run the industries have no clue about what their customers want.

Like, they are disconnected and living in a bubble...

Oh.. wait... they are.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 04, 2024 05:05 PM (QAkQ3)

328 Metropolis has flaws - the handy acting and overwrought melodrama plot - but the visuals are incredible, and it has been hugely influential. As the first big budget sci- fi film it set the tone for much of what followed. First human lookalike robot ever, so of course it’s a sexbot. And Rotwang is the archetype for almost every evil mad scientist ever filmed since.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2024 05:09 PM (EzXHB)

329 Nosferatu - No, not one more movie with Willem Dafoe who has more than embarrassed himself between "acting" in Poor Things and Kinds of Kindness. (The latter, a three part monstrosity, should have been trashed part of the way through part one.) Can also forget about Lily Depp, too.

Salem's Lot - No, enough. Stick with the first movie. The book was better anyway.

A shame about the new Joker movie. Joaquin Phoenix is a talented actor, so much so that he seems to "become" his characters...in the line of Daniel Day-Lewis.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 04, 2024 05:11 PM (NFX2v)

330 Someone has got to be kidding Werner here, surely? Let Werner state the facts at issue here: The German Expressionist film Nosferatu was an open theft of Bram Stoker's novel. Everywhere in your copy of Dracula where his name is mentioned, just cross it out and pencil in "Count Orlok." You can even put it in the quotes. Germany stole it and made it weird, and we glory in it. Hell, Werner even did a re-make and made it even more weird, and for a Kraut to be saying that gives you an idea of what Cosmic Horror truly is. I liked the David Soul version and giggled when I saw the theft od the Nosferatu look. Then I see that there is going to be a re-make of the David Soul miniseries, and uses the Nosferatu look again, but even more gay? Werner now goes to punch the neatest Tesla vehichle he can find.

Posted by: Werner Herzog Has Opinions at October 04, 2024 05:13 PM (tmPIh)

331 The editor is there to say "yeah sure you think watching a boat drift down a river for nine minutes while no one says anything is gonna tell your story. It won't. You're not Werner Herzog, and that little coked up nepot ain't Kinski. Leave the editing to me."
Posted by: Warai-otoku

This is admirable film criticism. Werner does have to admit that the river scene at the end of Aguirre was mostly the production crew and myself lashing Klaus to a dangerously flawed craft and supplying a butt load of monkeys and saying "Figure it out, Homunculus!" And Kinski did. At least I think as. We were all hitting the ayahuasca then.

Posted by: Werner Herzog Has Opinions at October 04, 2024 05:28 PM (tmPIh)

332 Werner should probably mention that the next instalment of Ayn and Werner vs. the Loup-Garou is coming soon. It is a madcap, warm-hearted chronicle of how we rush to the aid of Walter Hill when his production of Southern Comfort is put in peril by a Hell-beast set on disrupting an upcoming feature. But enough of Betty White. It's fun for the whole family! Ja, Werner has deployed an exclamation point. I am as puzzled by this as you are.

Posted by: Werner Herzog Has Opinions at October 04, 2024 05:37 PM (tmPIh)

333 I really wanted to like it. People like Coppola and Scorsese need to hire a Loud American (like the Japanese companies do) to say: No. Stop this now. Edit this down. This makes no sense. Just stop.
Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2024 04:00 PM (JI8/o)

Leftists know groupthink far better than the Japanese ever did.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 04, 2024 05:37 PM (n7h9X)

334 People only like short Poles.

Nobody wants to touch a ten-foot Pole.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2024 04:56 PM (a3Q+t)

Sure they do. They are holding the 10 foot pole 11 foot away from all kinds of things they don't like.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 04, 2024 05:41 PM (n7h9X)

335 Do not underestimate the Japanese. On a flight from Vladivostok to Singapore (Don't ask, Werner does not remember why), I, along with the admirable Abe Shinzo of blessed memory, got into a game of cards with a few other gentlemen aboard. It was Texas Hold'em, and Werner has a good track record there. Imagine the Know When To Hold 'em, know when to fold'em song at this point. Abe-san was no slouch himself.

The problem was that we won and kept winning, not aware that we were the marks from the gentleman across from them, and when these Yakuza kept on losing, they decided it was throat-slitting and decapitation time. Abe San called out to his bodyguards for two katanas (the Japanese have an odd concept of executive protection) and tossed one to me. What followed would have given Quentin Tarantino an orgasm. A most amusing talle, for another occasion,

Posted by: Werner Herzog Has Opinions at October 04, 2024 05:55 PM (tmPIh)

336 "Magnum opus more like magnum flopus am i rite?"
- - - - - - -

Can we go with "Magnum Up-Ass?"

Posted by: Another Anon at October 04, 2024 06:28 PM (QNMaY)

337 Megalopolis, Adam Driver portrays a visionary civic planner who can stop time with his mind and builds towering, surreally fluid cityscapes with the help of a mysterious substance called Megalon.

I just don't see the story here unless the protagonists are leftist bureaucrats trying to stop him.

Posted by: Colonial at October 04, 2024 08:55 PM (H0YeO)

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