Overnight Open Thread - 10/09/2024<br><i>[Roger Ball]</i>

Overnight Open Thread - 10/09/2024
[Roger Ball]

Being a relief poster, I offer the theme of general and specific relief to the magnificent HORDE.

The banner picture is the flight track of NOAA42, the NOAA WP-3D, on one of several trips through the eye of hurricane HELENE on September 26th. It’s not a normal track as the typical hurricane hunter transits through the eye wall on various tracks. For example, here’s the track TEAL73, a C-130 from the 53rd Weather Recce guys at Biloxi.

You can see a couple of circles in the eye, but it’s mostly just straight-line transits through the storm center. In any case, avgeeks like me watch the trackers like Flight Aware and ADSB Exchange to lurk and stalk…you know, geeky stuff. The track of the NOAA airplane aroused suspicion and alarm that “something had gone wrong” with the hunters. We all were relieved to find that all was well, and the crew returned to Ellington Field safe and sound.

What stories will come out of MILTON’s assault on Florida? We can only guess at this point, but I remember a saying that has come in handy from time to time: “Nothing is ever as good or as bad as first reported”. We can hope and pray it’s not as bad as we fear, all though I know that some folks in the North Carolina mountains would tell me to pack sand.

After seeing the devastation left by HELENE, as requested earlier in the regular posts, please continue to pray for the relief, recovery and restitution for all our countrymen and women in the paths of these historic storms. And, if it’s not too late, throw in a prayer for our Republic.

Ever wondered what it would be like to “ride the storm”?

Generally, I am relieved that we have these intrepid crews to go out there and ride the storm for us. Specifically, I am relieved to say that I never really wondered about flying a WP-3D into a hurricane, but I wonder why the crew seats are not equipped with shoulder harnesses. In fact, I’m not really a fan of moderate turbulence. I only flew on a Navy P-3C once. It has a very stiff wing, and it felt like riding in a truck with no springs or shocks. The source of the hard ride goes back to the introduction of the Lockheed Electra II in 1959 and the discovery of “whirl mode”.

Wing vibration, or flutter, is inherent in the design and is expected. In engineering terms, there are more than 100 different types of flutter, or “modes”, in which metal can vibrate. The mode that destroyed the Electra’s wing was called a whirl mode.
Whirl mode was not new, nor was it a mysterious phenomenon. Its a form of vibration inherent in rotating machinery such as oil drills, table fans and an automobile’s driveshaft.

I’m sure many of the HORDE know that the word “flutter” will make structural engineers blanche and reach for a whiskey. Airplanes and flutter simply should not be used in the same sentence.

The propellers normal plane rotation is disturbed, sending inharmonious forces back to the wing. The result, if not checked, is a wobbling effect that begins to transmit its motion to a natural outlet: the wing. The wing now begins to flex and flutter, sending discordant forces back to the engine-prop package, which in turn creates more and violent vibrations, feeding the mode new energy. It took less than 30 seconds for the energy to separate the wing.

Yeah, uh, “separate the wing” sounds bad to me. I’m generally relieved that there are people smart enough to be structural engineers. I’m specifically relieved that the Lockheed engineers found a solution to whirl mode. Unfortunately for Lockheed, the B707 and DC-8 had captured the flying public’s imagination by the time Lockheed re-engineered the wing. OTOH, the Electra airframe still enjoyed success with the proof that many are still flying while almost all civilian 707s and DC-8s are beer cans and razor blades. Anyway, here’s the long story if you’re interested.

In other news, it should be a general and specific relief that Vlad is only talking tactical nukes?

"Moscow has thus far shown incredible restraint in the face of Western aggression, but things can only go so far before Putin has to respond with something formidable to let the West know that it is not playing around....When asked if he sees a tactical nuclear strike happening soon, Markov responded in the affirmative. He revealed that many Russian experts now agree that Moscow has no choice but to take this kind of action, particularly against NATO airfields."

I was thinking he might be agreeing with the Harris/Dr Jill Junta in trying to incite global thermonuclear war or something.

How about general relief for the commercial real estate market, and specific relief for Minneapolis, eh? Tales of creative Minneapolis real estate deals were posted at the American Experiment website:

Minneapolis to convert deserted downtown offices into apartments
"...Forum buildings in downtown Minneapolis — which just sold for $10.25 per square foot, 90% less than they were bought for in 2019 — “have an occupancy rate of about 45%, as of earlier this year.”
"Under the new rules, commercial-to-residential conversion projects will not be subject to public hearings— instead, the plans will only require approval by city staff."

Of course. Communists do not worry about silly things like "public hearings". In their authoritarian way, they just do things. What makes me wonder is, once you've converted business space to residential space, where do the people work to make money to pay rent? I know, I know, it's a trick question! They DON'T WORK. These will be the new mass housing projects for the dumbmasses. And what entity on the planet is the undisputed expert for mass housing? The tenants will be wards of the state, slaves if you will. They will own nothing and be happy (or else). Fortunately, they will have plenty of time to fill out mail-in ballots. And you and I get to pay for all of it.
As I have said for the last four years, "30 million illegals have to have some place to live too.”

It used to be that “Minnesota Nice” was just nice with a distinctive accent. Now, partially thanks to the “Saint Floyd of Fentanyl” transformation, there are other connotations. Compare and contrast. Discuss among yourselves. There may be a quiz later.

Downtown Minneapolis: What to Do, See, Eat, and Stay

‘Murderapolis,’

I stream talk radio from time to time and the news breaks for one particular station are typically lit up about data centers, shootings and traffic. Generally, I am relieved to have a blue tooth headset so I can work while listening. Specifically, my wife is relieved that she doesn’t have to listen with me. Data centers have been a hot topic for years and there is often a story about those energy sucking monsters. Amazon needs more cloud storage, you see, and residents seem to resent the invasion while the rulers only see tax revenue. Here's a story from two years ago but the battle continues.

The Cloud Needs More Land in Northern Virginia
"Meanwhile, “land banking” by data center developers has pushed land values for data center parcels past $3 million an acre, up from about $500,00 as recently as 2017. “Loudoun land is the most sought-after asset for this industry,” said Rizer."

Wow. Let me check my savings account balance but I'm pretty sure I can't cover $3 million an acre. If you read the post, all the numbers seem to be millions and billions. Loudoun County is like a whole other country. Hmm…kind of like D.C. isn’t really part of the country either, eh?

STAY FROSTY!
ROGER, OUT.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:51 PM

Comments

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1 Yo Roger!

Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened at October 09, 2024 09:52 PM (KF2qL)

2 Nice info!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at October 09, 2024 09:52 PM (hOUT3)

3 Hello

Posted by: ALH at October 09, 2024 09:53 PM (xJEPL)

4 Llamas - Llamas - Llamas = A Happy Carl Wheezer!

Posted by: Ciampino - pizza is pizza, even better when free at October 09, 2024 09:53 PM (qfLjt)

5 Always nice to have a R Ball ONT production.

Always learn something new

Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened at October 09, 2024 09:54 PM (KF2qL)

6 You think people in our government are sinister now, just look at what Mark Felton posted today. You'll be shocked. Or not.

24 minutes long.

https://tinyurl.com/ezf25xxf

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 09, 2024 09:55 PM (0eaVi)

7 SPONGE!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2024 09:55 PM (FnneF)

8 Good Evening.

The Shootist on Grit right now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at October 09, 2024 09:55 PM (3pDo5)

9 We're watching videos of the storm on YouTube.

Posted by: ALH at October 09, 2024 09:56 PM (xJEPL)

10
Some of those bums have bikes worth more than my car.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 09:58 PM (e+kKL)

11 If only we could find out if there were some common denominator for cities/states on the downward spiral.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 09:59 PM (vJiyU)

12 Good evening horde. Thanks RB.

Posted by: Knights who say Ni at October 09, 2024 09:59 PM (IQ6Gq)

13 Off Holy Grail sock...

Posted by: TRex at October 09, 2024 10:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

14 Some of those bums have bikes worth more than my car.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Stuff is remarkably cheap when one steals it.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 10:00 PM (vJiyU)

15 No matter how hard or often I clicked, I couldn't get MisHum's hidden music click to work.

Oh...

wait...

never miiiiiind. Hurricane stuff, and aircraft stuff again.

Got some vids to watch. Catch y'all later, perhaps.

Posted by: Old Liver Franklin is a nic worth keeping at October 09, 2024 10:00 PM (bqxS+)

16 Tactical nukes and Minneapolis...

I'm listening.

Posted by: Tom Perry at October 09, 2024 10:01 PM (MX0bI)

17 Milton...

https://www.ventusky.com/

Posted by: davidt at October 09, 2024 10:01 PM (i0F8b)

18 >>>Let me check my savings account balance but I'm pretty sure I can't cover $3 million an acre.

Where's MooMoo when you need him?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 09, 2024 10:02 PM (i24o9)

19 Tactical nukes and Minneapolis...

I'm listening.
Posted by: Tom Perry at October 09, 2024 10:01 PM (MX0bI)

Well, try to avoid nuking St. Paul. There's a St. Paul in Alberta, and it's a nice small northern town.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 10:03 PM (e+kKL)

20 The NOAA hurricane aircraft have been named after muppets recently.

Kermit and Miss Piggy are P-3s and a G-IV with a big nose radome is Gonzo.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 09, 2024 10:03 PM (Y6IkP)

21 Yay, Che Guevara Became a Good Communist Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura -Z28.310 at October 09, 2024 10:04 PM (lUFok)

22 Are they going to build some nuke power plants for the data centers?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2024 10:04 PM (63Dwl)

23 Ever wondered what it would be like to ride the storm?

IMHO, those dudes failed to secure their shit. I found it a bit embarrassing.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 09, 2024 10:05 PM (mH6SG)

24 Thanks for the dandy ONT, Roger Ball!

Flying into the heart of a hurricane is not for the timid.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at October 09, 2024 10:05 PM (CiNoz)

25 P-3's are a fairly robust airframe. Worked for NOAA at one time and had NOAA Corp's Officers in the office; one a Captain of a research vessel up in AK the other a Lt who flew... but on a Twin Otter.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2024 10:05 PM (Q4IgG)

26 Good evening morons and thanks roger ball.

Communists do not worry about silly things like "public hearings". In their authoritarian way, they just do things.
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This is what has happened in SF with the seizure and closure of public spaces, parks, and streets. They used covid as an excuse.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:06 PM (RIvkX)

27 Evenin'

Loudoun County is like a whole other country. Hmm…kind of like D.C. isn’t really part of the country either, eh?

Babylon DC is not America. Hasn't been in a long while.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 09, 2024 10:06 PM (sAmhv)

28 The Cloud Needs More Land

The 'cloud' can go fck itself.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2024 10:07 PM (FnneF)

29 11 If only we could find out if there were some common denominator for cities/states on the downward spiral.
Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 09:59 PM (vJiyU)

They are all run by Democrats.

Posted by: ALH at October 09, 2024 10:08 PM (xJEPL)

30 Roger, if you are watching the thread, do you have any wisdom to share on that incident in which a National Guard Blackhawk trashed a donation center in NC with rotor wash? The video I saw, it appeared the chopper did not descend all that low; might have been looking for a landing zone, and not found it. So possibly not malicious.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 10:09 PM (e+kKL)

31 Coming soon to a cloud near you - data centers in orbit. They can use the sun for power, and the vacuum of space for cooling.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 09, 2024 10:09 PM (VNX3d)

32 They are all run by Democrats.
Posted by: ALH

Please proceed immediately to the head of the class.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 10:09 PM (vJiyU)

33 This is cool (h/t Insty):

https://x.com
/SpaceX/status
/1843797123420303789

In addition to the thousands (>10k) of Starlink kits we are delivering in response to Hurricane Helene, the @Starlink team and @TMobile activated our Direct to Cell satellites to provide emergency alerts for all phones and carriers of those in affected areas.

The @FCC has also rapidly approved emergency special temporary authority for coverage in Florida ahead of Hurricane Milton.

We have now enabled basic texting (SMS) for those on T-Mobile phones in hurricane affected areas. Text messages have already been sent and received. You can text loved ones, text 911 and continue to receive emergency alerts.

If a phone connects to a Starlink satellite, it will have 1 to 2 bars of signal and show "T-Mobile SpaceX" in the network name. Users may have to manually retry text messages if they don't go through at first, as this is being delivered on a best-effort basis. The service works best outdoors, and occasionally works indoors near a window.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2024 10:10 PM (FnneF)

34 The 'cloud' can go fck itself.

As someone who's career is now dependent on the cloud let me just say that I agree with your assessment.

Posted by: Blanco Basura -Z28.310 at October 09, 2024 10:10 PM (lUFok)

35 Hope everyone in Florida is doing well.

I have a friend with daughters living not far from Tampa, but he says they're on higher ground and not in much danger, thank God.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 09, 2024 10:10 PM (jGGMD)

36 Excellent ONT, RB. Thanks. Watching Top Gun Maverick, which is about my limit of aviation knowledge. Jennifer Connelly...sigh. was in Minneapolis today. It's a sh*t show.

Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 10:11 PM (cETho)

37 The P-3 Orion is a mighty fine aircraft. Sigh, I miss flying.

Posted by: CDR M (Ret) at October 09, 2024 10:11 PM (vT30t)

38 Re the Cloud needing more land, it also needs a lot more electricity. This is finally starting to get the tech executives to get real about nuclear, and to realize that virtue signaling about “green” energy doesn’t produce reliable energy.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 09, 2024 10:11 PM (d9Cw3)

39 Roger, if you are watching the thread, do you have any wisdom to share on that incident in which a National Guard Blackhawk trashed a donation center in NC with rotor wash? The video I saw, it appeared the chopper did not descend all that low; might have been looking for a landing zone, and not found it. So possibly not malicious.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

It was done to a crew I was with at Katrina. It sure as hell was intentional.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 10:11 PM (vJiyU)

40 I read that Connelly had a breast reduction.

This gives me the sadz.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 09, 2024 10:11 PM (17l0u)

41 Right. Nuclear attacks on *NATO* airfields. Sure. That's a conceivable or useful Russian move. The cluelessness of western military/strategy types when it comes to the Ukeistan unpleasantness remains a thing of wonder - but the russkis maintain a particularly clownish kind of buffoonery in their public comments.

In a war where Russia is getting what it wants (well the part that can be achieved), slowly but inexorably, with no real options to blunt that for the Ukes, they're going to attack NATO, with nukes. Makes sense.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:12 PM (GcNJ2)

42 The Chesapeake Bay is definitely not part of America. Not by Americans' standards, or the Bay's. It's a hostile occupying colonial power. And not a benign one, like the British in India. Much more like the Belgians in the Congo.

Posted by: Ol' "Killer Lips" Franklin at October 09, 2024 10:12 PM (awTae)

43 Orange ENT
I saw that earlier. It does explain a few things. The deep state has been around for quite some time.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at October 09, 2024 10:12 PM (jQqep)

44 I'm a bit of an avgeek myself and I thought this 30 minute video was interesting. A Nazi plane I never heard of, the Arado Ar-240.

https://is.gd/kWVwph

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 09, 2024 10:12 PM (L/fGl)

45 There is a HS buddy who was phenomenally intelligent during his schooling. If you looked up 'geek' or 'nerd' in the late '60's or early 70's, his picture would appear next to the definitions of the words. Nice guy but we all thought he was 'touched'.

He went on to complete his undergrad at Purdue and then his Masters at CalTech.

Spent his entire professional career at Boeing as an aeronautical engineer working on 'flutter' problems.

At reunions, it is like conversing with Einstein.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 09, 2024 10:12 PM (WXNFJ)

46 Watching Kamala stumble through her 60 minutes interview. At one point CBS gave up and just had the interviewer answer his own question for her.

Pathetic.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:13 PM (RIvkX)

47 You got to make it surge
Like a schoolboy in need of relief

Gimme all your millibars
All your wind and stormin' too

Gimme all your hurricane
Don't let up until we're through

Posted by: ZZ Milton at October 09, 2024 10:13 PM (Aqu9a)

48 I read that Connelly had a breast reduction.

This gives me the sadz.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

And she switched teams.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 10:14 PM (vJiyU)

49 Good Evening.

The Shootist on Grit right now.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at October 09, 2024 09:55 PM (3pDo5)

John Wayne and Humphrey Bogart both made really good last movies.

Bogart's was The Harder They Fall.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:14 PM (zn6Ro)

50 How will global warming affect the cloud?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 09, 2024 10:14 PM (L/fGl)

51 >>> 34 The 'cloud' can go fck itself.
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As someone who's career is now dependent on the cloud let me just say that I agree with your assessment.
Posted by: Blanco Basura -Z28.310 at October 09, 2024 10:10 PM (lUFok)

HA!

I am specifically un-thrilled by these ludicrous-size, energy-sucking data centers that produce... what, exactly??? Are you involved with that or what I think of as the more 'generic' cloud, remote services on shared hardware?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2024 10:14 PM (FnneF)

52 I'm going to use 'inharmonious' in all my comments tomorrow. A terrific word IMHO.

Posted by: Gref at October 09, 2024 10:15 PM (aBgBM)

53 Thank you Roger Ball.

Good call on the state of hurricane aviation.

You would think that a hurricane penetrating aircraft would "secure for storms" better.

The NOAA Officer Corps is the smallest and least known of the 7 uniformed services.

I set up a ships party for a visiting Japanese MSDF training squadron at COMNAVBASE Norfolk (Visit Ship Coordinator was a collateral duty) and met the Flag LT for the NOAA Commander on the East Coast. He had some good stories, and he liked the sake the JMSDF crew handed out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:15 PM (u82oZ)

54 Franpsycho, you've said she didn't seem dumb, based on direct personal experience. She's always seemed at least borderline dumb to me. Obviously not talented or smart or anything useful or impressive. You refining your assessment based on this amazingly degrading (for the country) campaign?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:15 PM (GcNJ2)

55 And she switched teams.
Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 10:14 PM (vJiyU)

?

She's married to Paul Bettany last I read.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:16 PM (zn6Ro)

56 Converting office space to residential is possible, but only if you throw an obscene amount of money at the project. My prediction is Minneapolis' effort to do so will soon bog down, becoming a money pit like California's High Speed Rail, with similar construction progress.
Expect some spectacular building implosion videos in ten years or so, as the rotting, half-finished hulks are finally put out of their misery.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 09, 2024 10:16 PM (5ws+H)

57 My skills as a homeless, opportunistic hobo have not diminished since Trump left office, but have blossomed to give me the right to vote twice.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 09, 2024 10:17 PM (fY84s)

58 Sorry I'm late, I was raiding the morgue for Halloween decorations.

Posted by: tankdemon at October 09, 2024 10:17 PM (VSht7)

59 ONT!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 09, 2024 10:17 PM (OTdqV)

60 In a war where Russia is getting what it wants (well the part that can be achieved), slowly but inexorably, with no real options to blunt that for the Ukes, they're going to attack NATO, with nukes. Makes sense.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:12 PM (GcNJ2)
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I hear Russian troops are pouring through the Fulda Gap!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:17 PM (RIvkX)

61 And she switched teams.
Posted by: Some Rat

Temporarily, in that one scene in Requiem for a Dream.

Artistic dedication.

Posted by: davidt at October 09, 2024 10:17 PM (i0F8b)

62 I am specifically un-thrilled by these ludicrous-size, energy-sucking data centers that produce... what, exactly??? Are you involved with that or what I think of as the more 'generic' cloud, remote services on shared hardware?

Consumption side. My employer has decided to go all in on "the cloud" as have several of the previous ones. So it's either learn the cloud shit or change careers.

Posted by: Blanco Basura -Z28.310 at October 09, 2024 10:18 PM (lUFok)

63 She's married to Paul Bettany last I read.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Oops! Sorry, got my actresses mixed up.
(Pop culture is a weak spot)

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 10:19 PM (vJiyU)

64 58 Sorry I'm late, I was raiding the morgue for Halloween decorations.

Posted by: tankdemon at October 09, 2024 10:17 PM (VSht7)
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Did you find the jar with A.B. Normal's brain?

Posted by: Ciampino - pizza is pizza, even better when it's free at October 09, 2024 10:19 PM (qfLjt)

65 >>> 22 Are they going to build some nuke power plants for the data centers?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2024 10:04 PM (63Dwl)

Yes, for the data centers. ONLY for the data centers.

*tee hee*

Posted by: Bill Gates at October 09, 2024 10:19 PM (FnneF)

66 And she switched teams.
Posted by: Some Rat
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*shrugs shoulders*

Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 10:19 PM (41CYW)

67 The plumbing in commercial construction needs serious and expensive changes for conversion to residential use.

The economics just don't work. And no one wants to live in a remote office park.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:19 PM (RIvkX)

68 CDR M (Ret)

IS it the flying or the per diem checks you miss the most? *Rimshot*

Actually, I know it is the flying. When an aviator is in trouble, the senior officers always want to grab the golden thigh spreaders. Bastards.

Still enjoy the musical genre you introduced to me. Thank you again. Much appreciated.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:19 PM (u82oZ)

69 In a war where Russia is getting what it wants (well the part that can be achieved), slowly but inexorably, with no real options to blunt that for the Ukes, they're going to attack NATO, with nukes. Makes sense.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:12 PM (GcNJ2)
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That would pretty much drag the US into it with very unpleasant outcomes for everyone, especially Putin himself. Just bluster, trying to shake the Germans free of the united EU response.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 09, 2024 10:20 PM (9j0Kf)

70 NaCly you made a comment earlier today (I think the Pearl Harbor "thread") I was going to praise it and now I've forgotten what it was. Typical. Memory of a fruit-fly here sometimes. Maybe you mentioned the Zimm book? Many commenting would do well to read it. Nicely eviscerates the most popular myths.

One of these myths (unsurprisingly) comes from Fuchida's post-war account, which (like his Midway) account stood as gospel until Parshall and others debunked it using actual direct evidence + knowledge of Jap carrier operations. That's the "third wave"/Nagumo chickening out myth.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:20 PM (GcNJ2)

71 I saw that earlier. It does explain a few things. The deep state has been around for quite some time.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at October 09, 2024 10:12 PM (jQqep)

Yeah, no qualms about working with our declared enemies at the time. For money.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 09, 2024 10:20 PM (0eaVi)

72 She's married to Paul Bettany last I read.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Oops! Sorry, got my actresses mixed up.
(Pop culture is a weak spot)
Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 10:19 PM (vJiy

I just learned that Hit Girl from Kick Ass, Chloe something was lesbo. 75% of Hollywood seems to be homo.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:21 PM (zn6Ro)

73 San Franpsycho

Nope. The Russians all stopped at McDonalds, then went to raid a hypermarket.

We are saved by retail establishments and anti-tank rounds.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:21 PM (u82oZ)

74 The NOAA Officer Corps is the smallest and least known of the 7 uniformed services.
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Only SOTF-D is more elite.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 09, 2024 10:21 PM (/lPRQ)

75 I can't rule out the Russians deciding to deploy a tactical nuke against a NATO base. It would make a helluva statement and we're unlikely to do much about it besides cry moar.

But the key word there is "unlikely." We might actually respond. So it makes more sense for Russia to muddle through and grind onward to victory. They've done it before, and can do it again, without tempting fate like that.

This sounds like alarmist propaganda to me.

Posted by: Ol' "Killer Lips" Franklin at October 09, 2024 10:22 PM (awTae)

76 You refining your assessment based on this amazingly degrading (for the country) campaign?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:15 PM (GcNJ2)
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Perhaps. I agree she is certainly presenting as an ignoramus. But I have also said that she, Newsom, and the other products of one-party states are just unaccustomed and unprepared for serious or adversarial questions, having to defend their failures or explain their policies.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:22 PM (RIvkX)

77 I lived in a converted office building in NY. My apartment was about as big as a cubicle.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:23 PM (zn6Ro)

78 >>> 62
==
Consumption side. My employer has decided to go all in on "the cloud" as have several of the previous ones. So it's either learn the cloud shit or change careers.
Posted by: Blanco Basura -Z28.310 at October 09, 2024 10:18 PM (lUFok)

Ugh, I hope you don't have to make an abrupt change.
This seems to be one of the newer trends with IT companies, but I'm not convinced the execs have really thought it through, other than they all think everyone else is doing it.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2024 10:23 PM (FnneF)

79 The economics just don't work. And no one wants to live in a remote office park.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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I was told that pickleball courts could resolve all big box, mall, low rise, and mid rise issues.

Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 10:24 PM (41CYW)

80 31 Coming soon to a cloud near you - data centers in orbit. They can use the sun for power, and the vacuum of space for cooling.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 09, 2024 10:09 PM (VNX3d)

They can switch it from suck to blow!

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 09, 2024 10:24 PM (NMT5x)

81 Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:19 PM (u82oZ)

Hahaha! Ah yes, carpe per diem. I miss that too!

Glad you liked that music genre. I'm discovered so many more. Have you listened to Volkor X yet?

Posted by: CDR M (Ret) at October 09, 2024 10:24 PM (vT30t)

82 Salty, every Soviet I ever met (below age 50) was a craven consumerist. When I was there they all wanted Michael Jackson music cassettes. And Marlboros. And Levi's.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:25 PM (RIvkX)

83 Let the slightly before midnight, Magic begin...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2024 10:26 PM (TGPs7)

84 Why would Russia deploy nukes when they have their own version of the conventional MOAB, hypersonic missiles, cruise missiles, etc that they haven't used to any extent ?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:27 PM (zn6Ro)

85 Judy Tyler's last movie was her second, Jailhouse Rock with Elvis. Died in a car crash, age 24. She was beautiful and talented. Would have been a big star.

Posted by: Hollywood Hystery at October 09, 2024 10:27 PM (CV8a5)

86
Converting office space to residential is possible, but only if you throw an obscene amount of money at the project.

It might be more economical to tear the office building down and start over.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2024 10:27 PM (63Dwl)

87 Marlboro hard-packs were valuable currency in the wild early 90s after the Soviet collapse. The "sentries" at the border post with South Ossetia seemed nice enough (not drunk, at least), but giving them each a pack of Marlboros ensured full cooperation.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:28 PM (GcNJ2)

88 Test

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 09, 2024 10:28 PM (6dji4)

89 I've been in flutter test programs. So the thing is you have to show that an aircraft you want to certify will not exhibit aeroelastic instability ->(flutter) in three steps:

Verify and correlate your dynamic analytical model of the aircraft with a GVT (ground vibration test). You shake the aircraft and record it's resonance with accelerometers.

Use correlated model to analytically simulate flutter across a wide range of flight conditions, predict where flutter would occur, show that point of flutter is well outside your aircraft's operation envelope.

Now go fly your aircraft in screaming deep dives and kiss the edge where you predicted it might explode to demonstrate it won't.

In real time we monitor phase, amplitude, and damping of the diving aircraft's structure to show that damping doesn't diminish.

Very exciting flight test and flight test should never ever be exciting. A stressful time in any aircraft program.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 09, 2024 10:28 PM (Y6IkP)

90 Coming soon to a cloud near you - data centers in orbit. They can use the sun for power, and the vacuum of space for cooling.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 09, 2024 10:09 PM (VNX3d)

Vacuum makes for pretty poor heat transfer medium.

Posted by: Thermos at October 09, 2024 10:28 PM (e+kKL)

91 "Meanwhile, “land banking” by data center developers has pushed land values for data center parcels past $3 million an acre, up from about $500,00 as recently as 2017. “Loudoun land is the most sought-after asset for this industry,” said Rizer."

What makes it so pricey is that the land has to be contiguous, near utilities, have adequate roadways, level, not in a flood plain, defensible, and not in an area that can't be zoned for a data center.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 09, 2024 10:28 PM (rHxhM)

92 rhomboid

Yes, I mentioned the Zimm book, and his one big error. That was on stuffing tube maintenance. You have to go into the Captain's Zone Inspection Reports and requests for shore side assistance to see that was a weakness. This would have led to more larger ships sinking (in deep water) than Zimm thought probable.

I had to work, or I could have flooded the thread with info.

One thing that is not mentioned on the third strike argument is that Nagumo was very conscious that he had lost an entire year of IJN trained pilots in the first waves.

The IJN did not have a robust plan for losses, nor did they have rotations from the front to teach new pilots. Valor and extreme training was a trap. The USN was more hard-headed and organized for a longer effort.

The book The First Team approaches this.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:28 PM (u82oZ)

93 Sorry I'm late, I was raiding the morgue for Halloween decorations.
Posted by: tankdemon at October 09, 2024 10:17 PM (VSht7)

Glad you weren't raiding the morgue looking for a wife.

Posted by: RickZ at October 09, 2024 10:28 PM (gKDq2)

94 And Levi's.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Forgotten about the Levi's and Soviet market of yesteryear. That was crazy how they wanted those old 501s.

Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 10:29 PM (41CYW)

95 Northern VA's coming data centers (Microsoft, Oracle, Google, and Amazon) requires enough power that doesn't exist - other than modular nuclear. The wealthy NIMBYs are pushing back on building PATH in Northern VA to support those demands. Culpepper, VA, and WV's Eastern Panhandle might shoulder the burden.

Posted by: Coki at October 09, 2024 10:29 PM (Wkrcf)

96 Sorry to go off topic, but I'd like to know if anyone has seen the movie about Reagan. I'm thinking of going.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 09, 2024 10:30 PM (0Htd1)

97 CDR M (Ret)

I will now.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:30 PM (u82oZ)

98 >>> 96 Sorry to go off topic, but I'd like to know if anyone has seen the movie about Reagan. I'm thinking of going.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 09, 2024 10:30 PM (0Htd1)

I have not, but I've seen a couple other Morons saying they liked it.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2024 10:30 PM (FnneF)

99 You know

Unless you are personal friends with someone who first hand witnessed an event, whatever you hear is prolly not wholly true.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2024 10:31 PM (CO5FX)

100 100

Posted by: ALH at October 09, 2024 10:31 PM (xJEPL)

101 Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:30 PM (u82oZ)

Try out Meteor too. They did the soundtrack to DCS Flight Sim for the F-14 Tomcat and F-4 Phantom.

Posted by: CDR M (Ret) at October 09, 2024 10:31 PM (vT30t)

102 Test
Posted by: JM in Ill
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72 percent.

Posted by: You passed!!! at October 09, 2024 10:31 PM (41CYW)

103 Power is still on. A couple flickers and that's all.

The rain has been stupendous, though, and I say that as a Floridian.

Posted by: Locarno at October 09, 2024 10:31 PM (DCwZ9)

104 Why would Russia deploy nukes when they have their own version of the conventional MOAB, hypersonic missiles, cruise missiles, etc that they haven't used to any extent ?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:27 PM (zn6Ro)

Why would they even play those hands? Why start deploying airburst and hypersonic weaponry, when the good old low-tech muzhiks and gopniks can get the job done, without revealing capabilities and escalating against the Chesapeake regime?

Posted by: Ol' "Killer Lips" Franklin at October 09, 2024 10:31 PM (awTae)

105 31 Coming soon to a cloud near you - data centers in orbit. They can use the sun for power, and the vacuum of space for cooling.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 09, 2024 10:09 PM (VNX3d)
----
How does vacuum work at cooling?

Posted by: Ciampino - can you bake a pizza in Space? at October 09, 2024 10:32 PM (qfLjt)

106 Ok, my wife keeps getting mad at me if I don't agree, and I don't. What amount of Hordians believe the government can secretly control the weather? She wants to deluge me with articles with the usual "ex military" types claiming they do it. To me it sounds just like the "ex military" types claiming they disassembled flying saucers...then I hear about how I'm a boomer..I say no, the classic boomer response would be "the government wouldn't do that". I am more like " they would if they could but they can't ". What do you think?

Posted by: azjaeger at October 09, 2024 10:32 PM (3/XaG)

107 Google has their own dam and electric generating plant for a data center in one of the western states. No endangered lizard or migrating salmon to stop it it for some reason.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:32 PM (zn6Ro)

108 65 >>> 22 Are they going to build some nuke power plants for the data centers?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2024 10:04 PM (63Dwl)

Yes, for the data centers. ONLY for the data centers.

*tee hee*
Posted by: Bill Gates
-------------------------------

That's good. Loot & Plunder Power Inc. will not have an excuse to raise citizens rates on local consumption.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 10:33 PM (Qts0j)

109 I am more like " they would if they could but they can't ". What do you think?
Posted by: azjaeger at October 09, 2024 10:32 PM (3/XaG)

Agree with you.

Posted by: Thermos at October 09, 2024 10:33 PM (e+kKL)

110 NaCly yep that was it.

I don't recall Zimm went as deeply as Parshall (understandably) on the 3rd wave myth, but it's entirely manufactured. There was no plan for a 3rd wave. Nagumo was actually/justifiably stoked with results from 2 waves - notwithstanding the significant 2nd wave losses - and he had no idea where the US carriers were. Really not a decision at all, he just continued executing the plan, which was to leave at that point.

Fans/victims of the oil tank farm myth really should read Zimm's careful dismantling of that one. Even leaving aside that Nagumo had no plan, time, or even resources to hit it.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:33 PM (GcNJ2)

111 Locarno, thanks for the updates. How much rain? What metro area are you in/near? Stay safe.

Posted by: You passed!!! at October 09, 2024 10:34 PM (41CYW)

112 Off, vacuum bottle sock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 10:34 PM (e+kKL)

113 Get Off Of My Cloud was a 1965 release by the Rolling Stones. Written by Jagger/Richards it went to #1.

Posted by: Top of the Pops at October 09, 2024 10:35 PM (CV8a5)

114 I have a different take on the Rooskies threatening to nuke airfields. Let's say NATO decides to launch attacks from their airbases. Suddenly, incoming missiles are spotted, and there is no defense against them. They hit, but turn out to be only conventional munitions. The Russians then send a message, saying they can send tactical nukes next time, and does anybody want to FAFO?
Perhaps that would be enough to convince anyone who isn't Lindsey Graham to back off.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 09, 2024 10:35 PM (5ws+H)

115 What do you think?
Posted by: azjaeger at October 09, 2024 10:32 PM (3/XaG)
===

Only hashem makes the rain fall and the wind blow.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:36 PM (RIvkX)

116 Tampa metro, Pinellas county. I have no idea how much rain but the wind is driving large amounts around the tightly fit plywood protecting my windows. Considering how small the area for the water to squeeze through....

Posted by: Locarno at October 09, 2024 10:36 PM (DCwZ9)

117 nerdygirl

I have not seen it, but reliable friends said it was great.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:36 PM (u82oZ)

118 Putin only has to hold his water a little longer then bankrupt Ukraine won't have any munitions to fight with.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 10:36 PM (Qts0j)

119 Posted by: Ol' "Killer Lips" Franklin at October 09, 2024 10:31 PM (awTae)

The point was about the alleged necessity of deploying nukes .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:36 PM (zn6Ro)

120 Off sock.
AOP, was a petrified bird in the vent pipe. Still throwing the Pressure Switch error. Calling in the pro's tomorrow.

Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 10:37 PM (41CYW)

121 Helena Handbasket,
Thanks. I like to know if it's good because of the cost, especially since I always get concessions. I loves me some movie popcorn.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 09, 2024 10:37 PM (0Htd1)

122 Alfred Hitchcock bring your camera...

BlueGreen Planet
@De_le_...

Vega
Just hours before #HurricaneMilton is set to strike Florida, residents in several neighborhoods have witnessed an eerie spectacle

Groups of Sandhill cranes gathering and emitting sharp, urgent calls, as if signaling the need to flee...

http://tiny.cc/yanpzz

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2024 10:38 PM (TGPs7)

123 Supposedly St. Petersburg got over five inches in an hour. We are getting all these flash flood warnings despite the area being flat as a pancake.

Posted by: Locarno at October 09, 2024 10:38 PM (DCwZ9)

124 I've looked at clouds from both sides now, from up and down,
And still, somehow, it's clouds illusions I recall.

Posted by: Really Don't Know Clouds At All at October 09, 2024 10:39 PM (CV8a5)

125 It's completely implausible that Putin would use nukes on airfields to get a few planes that aren't even really hurting him. What's NATO even have operational any more in Europe? A couple hundred fighter bombers? But then its also implausible that NATO would risk WW3 over Putin getting a few areas of a historically Russian area back and the removal of an anti-Russian leadership group.

Posted by: azjaeger at October 09, 2024 10:39 PM (3/XaG)

126 NaCly Dog, thanks

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 09, 2024 10:40 PM (0Htd1)

127 Like almost all Americans, I was on Ukraine’s side when Russia launched its invasion, and I still am. But two and a half years down the road, one can only wonder whether Western support for Ukraine has mostly had the effect of getting a lot of people killed, while very little has been accomplished on the ground. Some kind of settlement needs to be reached. The obvious question is, could an acceptable settlement have been accomplished a long time ago, and saved a great many lives?
-John Hinderaker

===
Have they tried trenches?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:40 PM (RIvkX)

128 Meme:
Ruin Halloween with chocolate-covered Brussels Sprouts.

Posted by: Ciampino - Hollow them out and fill with custard at October 09, 2024 10:40 PM (qfLjt)

129 I think the only weather controlling humans can do given our current state of technology is cloud seeding. That can change rainfall patterns. I don't think they can do much else, although there have been some rumors as to what HAARP is for. I don't believe the rumors.

Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2024 10:41 PM (IDphi)

130
BlueGreen Planet
@De_le_Vega
Florida Highway Patrol (FHP) Troopers rescue a dog left tied to a pole on I-75 as Hurricane Milton approaches

Very sad to see the poor dog in such a tough situation, who could have done that 😔

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2024 10:41 PM (TGPs7)

131 AOP, was a petrified bird in the vent pipe. Still throwing the Pressure Switch error. Calling in the pro's tomorrow.
Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 10:37 PM (41CYW)

Heh. Maybe it laid some petrified eggs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 10:41 PM (e+kKL)

132 >>> 106 Ok, my wife keeps getting mad at me if I don't agree, and I don't. What amount of Hordians believe the government can secretly control the weather? She wants to deluge me with articles with the usual "ex military" types claiming they do it. To me it sounds just like the "ex military" types claiming they disassembled flying saucers...then I hear about how I'm a boomer..I say no, the classic boomer response would be "the government wouldn't do that". I am more like " they would if they could but they can't ". What do you think?
Posted by: azjaeger at October 09, 2024 10:32 PM (3/XaG)

I am definitely in the "If they could, they *would*", but to me this is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2024 10:42 PM (FnneF)

133 In case no one has said it yet,

Cat 2, baby!!!

What is the opposite of gainzzzz?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 10:42 PM (Q4Dc6)

134 Supposedly St. Petersburg got over five inches in an hour. We are getting all these flash flood warnings despite the area being flat as a pancake.

Does that come as a surprise to you?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 09, 2024 10:42 PM (mH6SG)

135 rhomboid

As I said, Zimm was a good analyst on the strike package. But his hydrofoil background left out some of the gritty details of maintaining watertight integrity on larger ships.

As a recovering DCA in a Spruance DD, it was always a struggle to make sure clean knife-edges on watertight doors shut on good seals in the bulkhead frames, and that stuffing tubes were not ignored when you rewire the ship.

One example, early WWII ships did not have portable pumps for firefighting or dewatering. We came a long way in damage control from 1941 to 1945.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:43 PM (u82oZ)

136 124 I've looked at clouds from both sides now, from up and down,
And still, somehow, it's clouds illusions I recall.

Posted by: Really Don't Know Clouds At All at October 09, 2024 10:39 PM (CV8a5)
----
Always loved that song.

Posted by: Ciampino - a tetrahedron has 4 sides at October 09, 2024 10:43 PM (qfLjt)

137 Pillage Idiot

Twiggypuff?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:43 PM (u82oZ)

138 I saw Petrified Bird open for Industrial Dessicant at O'Lunney's in NY in 1977.

Posted by: Musikologist at October 09, 2024 10:44 PM (CV8a5)

139 Car owner mocked for wrapping his Chevrolet Corvette in plastic to protect it from Hurricane Milton

https://mol.im/a/13943075

Also used against bad parking jobs.

Posted by: Ciampino - better than Post-It notes at October 09, 2024 10:45 PM (qfLjt)

140 I don't think they can do much else, although there have been some rumors as to what HAARP is for. I don't believe the rumors.
Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2024 10:41 PM (IDphi)

I think HAARP had to do with creating electric fields in the ionosphere. That's far above the level of the atmosphere responsible for weather.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 10:45 PM (e+kKL)

141 I'm listening to the hurricane net on an SDR (7.268 MHz, LSB). Interesting stuff. Someone is sending Morse code right now, but the sound is poor.

Posted by: PabloD at October 09, 2024 10:45 PM (UzjOd)

142 Anyone heard from my parole officer?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * tired of the dark at October 09, 2024 10:45 PM (pTPLK)

143 I don't recall much of Zimm's discussion of the pure hypotheticals (like BBs sinking out of the harbor), but his treatment of the actuals and the more concrete hypotheticals (oil farm)were pretty well done. For some reason I never knew before that book that Fuchica f**ked up his own signaling plan for strike order given surprise/no surprise. Funny, actually. Didn't make much difference, but still.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:46 PM (GcNJ2)

144 azjaeger

Testing for silver in rainwater is the first step, as AgI is used (Silver Iodide).

From an energy standpoint, it seems very unlikely we can change that much. The Middle East has done some of this, but only got flooding in a small area.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:46 PM (u82oZ)

145 Fuchida, not Fuchica, his Mexican relative.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:46 PM (GcNJ2)

146 I pray for the safety of all threatened by the hurricane, or for any other reason for that matter. Peace.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 09, 2024 10:46 PM (CWMF2)

147 " You'll Find Out" (1940) is just now starting on TCM. Horror/comedy with Lugosi, Lorre, Karloff and Kay Kyser and his band. It is good fun.Kay Kyser and band made four feature-length movies in the 40s.

Posted by: Ish Kabibble, Too. at October 09, 2024 10:46 PM (CV8a5)

148 Now, that's sweet...

http://tiny.cc/5cnpzz

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2024 10:46 PM (TGPs7)

149 Flutter is actually becoming an increasingly difficult problem in aerospace. If you look at trends aircraft structures are becoming lighter, wing loading is increasing, wings are becoming thinner, there's more interesting things happening at wing tips like winglets. Flutter is sensitive to all those things.

It use to be that engineers could seriously look into flutter much later in an aircraft program, closer to the beginning of flight test, more as a check and verification than anything. But with newer lighter thinner wing designs the dynamicists would just end up saying nope, you're design is crap, the aircraft would fail and you have to change everything->$$$$$$. So dynamicists are being brought in much earlier into the design cycle to tweak things early.

Posted by: banana Dream at October 09, 2024 10:47 PM (Y6IkP)

150 Hope all y'all are safe and dry and enjoying a cockt.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 09, 2024 10:47 PM (vDyA9)

151 NOTE: It's Florida Man ..... Again!
Florida man, who strapped his entire house down ahead of Hurricane Milton, becomes Internet sensation

https://mol.im/a/13942993

Posted by: Ciampino - by mistake used bungee cords? at October 09, 2024 10:47 PM (qfLjt)

152 "and enjoying a cockt."

No that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:48 PM (GcNJ2)

153 Anyone heard from my parole officer?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * tired of the dark

Has that mound of dirt in your backyard always been there?

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 10:48 PM (vJiyU)

154 Unless you are personal friends with someone who first hand witnessed an event, whatever you hear is prolly not wholly true.
Posted by: nurse ratched
That's also true with news reporting. I had said before, I was once interviewed by a reporter about a coworker who was retiring. When I read the article, she had a couple of direct quotes from me, that I had never said. They weren't malicious, they were nice. But I had not said those things. I think reporters just make shit up.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 09, 2024 10:49 PM (0Htd1)

155 137 Pillage Idiot

Twiggypuff?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:43 PM

No, just happy to watch Milton weaken.

Twigglypuff's arm wattle vibrations are at least a Cat 3!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 10:49 PM (Q4Dc6)

156 Goes right to a man's heart...

http://tiny.cc/icnpzz

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2024 10:49 PM (TGPs7)

157 I wonder if Tesla died with all the secrets of his super vibration weapon or if one of our alphabet agencies retrieved the info.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:50 PM (zn6Ro)

158 rhomboid

Yup. Buck Fever. This was mentioned as early as A Day of Infamy by Walter Lord.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 10:50 PM (u82oZ)

159 Anyone heard from my parole officer?
Posted by: Sock Monkey
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Last I heard she was rebranding as a jail layaway associate.

Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 10:51 PM (41CYW)

160 Has that mound of dirt in your backyard always been there?
Posted by: Some Rat

Which one?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * tired of the dark at October 09, 2024 10:52 PM (pTPLK)

161 I have a feeling the regime in Tehran is in its final days.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:52 PM (RIvkX)

162 129 I think the only weather controlling humans can do given our current state of technology is cloud seeding. That can change rainfall patterns. I don't think they can do much else, although there have been some rumors as to what HAARP is for. I don't believe the rumors.
Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2024 10:41 PM (IDphi)

Yeah, the amount of energy it would require could not be hidden...

but then, these are the same folks who insist CO2 is causing both climate change, and mythical worse storms.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 09, 2024 10:52 PM (QAkQ3)

163 Hi NaCly!

Any idea how China's sub sank immediately after launch?

I would think protocol would be to have every single compartment door sealed and a hand on the button to emergency blow air into the ballast tanks.

Did they operate stupidly, or is one small section of bad welds enough to put a sub on the bottom?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 10:52 PM (Q4Dc6)

164 Huh.
I missed a Pearl Harbor thread?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2024 10:52 PM (W/lyH)

165 Supposedly St. Petersburg got over five inches in an hour.

The Paolo, how you say, says 'Pffft!'

Posted by: The Paolo at October 09, 2024 10:53 PM (WXNFJ)

166 To me, weather control kind of falls in the same conspiracy category as contrails- it sounds good until you consider the vastness of what you're talking about.
So, yes, they would if they could but they can't.

See #115

Posted by: sal, who watches way too much TCM at October 09, 2024 10:53 PM (f+FmA)

167 My pal down in Burnt Store Marina below Punta Gorda texted me at 8:32 EDT to report the power went out. Said it would be a dark stormy night.

Posted by: M. Gaga at October 09, 2024 10:54 PM (k4Ypp)

168 >>> 161 I have a feeling the regime in Tehran is in its final days.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:52 PM (RIvkX)

I certainly hope so.

For that matter, I hope the Brandon / commie / WEFtard regime is in its final days...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2024 10:54 PM (FnneF)

169 127 Like almost all Americans, I was on Ukraine’s side when Russia launched its invasion, and I still am. But two and a half years down the road, one can only wonder whether Western support for Ukraine has mostly had the effect of getting a lot of people killed, while very little has been accomplished on the ground. Some kind of settlement needs to be reached. The obvious question is, could an acceptable settlement have been accomplished a long time ago, and saved a great many lives?
-John Hinderaker

===
Have they tried trenches?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:40 PM (RIvkX)

The answer to Hinderaker's question is yes. But the Stupid Joe F^ck's Up Everything He Touches Factor has prevented a settlement of any type.

Posted by: Gref at October 09, 2024 10:54 PM (aBgBM)

170 Willowed from earlier
People of Earth, your attention, please. This is Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz of the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council. As you will no doubt be aware, the plans for development of the outlying regions of the Galaxy require the building of a hyperspatial express route through your star system. And regrettably, your planet is one of those scheduled for demolition. The process will take slightly less than two of your Earth minutes.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 05:51 PM (D7oie)
----
Is the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council aware that the inhabitants of Earth are made of meat, sentient meat?

https://youtu.be/T6JFTmQCFHg

Posted by: Ciampino - Do Not Use In Hyperspace at October 09, 2024 10:54 PM (qfLjt)

171 156 Goes right to a man's heart...

http://tiny.cc/icnpzz

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2024 10:49 PM

Definitely video confirmation that all Morons are still just babies at heart ... that managed to grow larger over time.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 10:54 PM (Q4Dc6)

172 Posted by: Ciampino - by mistake used bungee cords? at October 09, 2024 10:47 PM (qfLjt)

Mohamed Nijem... clearly a Native Floridian who had been through generations of Hurricanes.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 09, 2024 10:54 PM (QAkQ3)

173 >>> 163 Hi NaCly!

Any idea how China's sub sank immediately after launch?

I would think protocol would be to have every single compartment door sealed and a hand on the button to emergency blow air into the ballast tanks.

Did they operate stupidly, or is one small section of bad welds enough to put a sub on the bottom?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 10:52 PM (Q4Dc6)

Was somebody carrying an unauthorized pager?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2024 10:54 PM (FnneF)

174 Florida man, who strapped his entire house down ahead of Hurricane Milton, becomes Internet sensation

https://mol.im/a/13942993
Posted by: Ciampino - by mistake used bungee cords? at October 09, 2024 10:47 PM (qfLjt)

Those straps will flap like a mofo when the wind picks up. When truckers use those straps to secure cargo, they put a half-twist in each vertical leg to break up the flutter. And unless those ground anchors are long screw anchors, they won't hold, especially once the ground becomes water-logged.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 10:54 PM (e+kKL)

175 To me, weather control kind of falls in the same conspiracy category as contrails- it sounds good until you consider the vastness of what you're talking about.
So, yes, they would if they could but they can't.
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It's not too late to make me President

Posted by: Cobra Commander at October 09, 2024 10:55 PM (Dnobf)

176 149 Flutter is actually becoming an increasingly difficult problem in aerospace.
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DEI thinks flutter is all the rage.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 10:55 PM (Qts0j)

177 Diogenes, it was another thread (forget actual topic), and I think I diverted it, but can't recall, might have been responding to the Initial Diverter. Mostly lots of familiar points were made, many actually sort of based on myths or without foundation, NaCly and I have been discussing the book by Alan Zimm that nicely analyzes and debunks most of them.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:56 PM (GcNJ2)

178 Mohamed Nijem... clearly a Native Floridian who had been through generations of Hurricanes.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 09, 2024 10:54 PM (QAkQ3)

It's something in the water that makes you become a Florida Man.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:56 PM (zn6Ro)

179 Ugh, I hope you don't have to make an abrupt change.
This seems to be one of the newer trends with IT companies, but I'm not convinced the execs have really thought it through, other than they all think everyone else is doing it.

You pretty much nailed it. The cloud providers are singing a song of how much cheaper it will be for you once you ditch all your physical plant, never telling you that it actually cost more to be in the cloud than it did to run your own data center. Then when you notice they tell you that you can do things faster in the cloud and really speed and flexibility is what they were selling all along. And all the CIOs nod their heads in time with the music.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at October 09, 2024 10:56 PM (lUFok)

180 Did they operate stupidly, or is one small section of bad welds enough to put a sub on the bottom?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

I have no info on that particular sub but my Navy son was on a Goodwill visit on a brand new PLA Navy destroyer type vessel and he said the welds were absolutely appalling. And the watertight hatches and doorways, similar to our Type 4s, were not.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 09, 2024 10:57 PM (WXNFJ)

181 Did they operate stupidly, or is one small section of bad welds enough to put a sub on the bottom?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 10:52 PM (Q4Dc6)

They forgot to use Flex-seal spray on the screen doors?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 09, 2024 10:57 PM (5ws+H)

182 If a government could control the weather, all other weapons would become obsolete.
That is God level power. I doubt He would share.

Posted by: Jmel at October 09, 2024 10:57 PM (bVhJi)

183 Are fluttering and flouncing kinda the same thing?

Posted by: Little Green Feetballs Veteran at October 09, 2024 10:58 PM (CV8a5)

184 142 Anyone heard from my parole officer?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * tired of the dark at October 09, 2024 10:45 PM (pTPLK)

Did you bedazzle your ankle bracelet? Because apparently that's childish and stupid, but not technically illegal if it doesn't interfere with the signal.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 09, 2024 10:58 PM (pIfcn)

185 Which one?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * tired of the dark

The one the coyotes seem to have a keen interest in.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 10:58 PM (vJiyU)

186 Those straps will flap like a mofo when the wind picks up. When truckers use those straps to secure cargo, they put a half-twist in each vertical leg to break up the flutter. And unless those ground anchors are long screw anchors, they won't hold, especially once the ground becomes water-logged.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Thought the same. No strap twist is no bueno.

Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 10:58 PM (41CYW)

187 You pretty much nailed it. The cloud providers are singing a song of how much cheaper it will be for you once you ditch all your physical plant, never telling you that it actually cost more to be in the cloud than it did to run your own data center. Then when you notice they tell you that you can do things faster in the cloud and really speed and flexibility is what they were selling all along. And all the CIOs nod their heads in time with the music.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at October 09, 2024 10:56 PM (lUFok)

Worse, every one of those Cloud contracts say you no longer own your own data. The 'cloud' has control of where it is, and who has access to it.

The only reason this flies under HIPAA Law, is that the Government refuses to enforce that law.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 09, 2024 10:59 PM (QAkQ3)

188 161

Much as I'd like to see that, I can't.

They pass out death sentences like candy to dissidents. The police (organs of repression) most assuredly have NOT reached the point where they refuse to shoot the people.

I suspect the Ayatollahs could only be overthrown by an invading foreign army. I doubt Israel is up for that-- bombing the regime into rubble, maybe. But not invading.

Posted by: mnw at October 09, 2024 11:00 PM (NLIak)

189 No link but a regular commenter at Insty's says Milton has been downgraded to Category 2 now.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 09, 2024 11:00 PM (CEzQx)

190 nerdygirl

Three weeks ago I was in a TV news article, with newspaper articles, and local news web pages all talking about the same incident. They spelled my name right, but deliberately lied about what happened.

I was unloading my school bus on the side of the road when a SUV that was going to run my stop lights slowed too much. The loaded semi behind him was too close (he was also going to run my lights) and hit the SUV, pushing it down the road away from me. The semi jack-knifed and the front of the cab hit the side of the engine compartment just in front of me.

My boss won't let me see the videotape, but I was tossed around. 38 students on the bus. No one was physically hurt. One kindergarten girl was crying from the events. Used up 3 years of luck in 1 second.

The reason for the media lie was not to alarm parents in school systems.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:00 PM (u82oZ)

191 Can't give a citation but it's been within a month that I read a Chinese sub, at dock, sunk.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 11:00 PM (Qts0j)

192 Milton down to 105 MPH on 11:00 update.

Central pressure up to 960 mb.

Wind shear might not have saved the day, but it certainly will massively lessen the damage!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:01 PM (Q4Dc6)

193 Avs going down.
Vegas scored two goals in 23 seconds.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 09, 2024 11:01 PM (ufFY8)

194 mnw

Good analysis.

But what if the Israeli plan is to go after the local security forces and the IIRG? With the Crown Prince of Iran waiting in the wings?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:02 PM (u82oZ)

195 I wonder if Tesla died with all the secrets of his super vibration weapon or if one of our alphabet agencies retrieved the info.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:50 PM (zn6Ro)

I'm going with the latter.

Posted by: RickZ at October 09, 2024 11:02 PM (gKDq2)

196 >>> 166 To me, weather control kind of falls in the same conspiracy category as contrails- it sounds good until you consider the vastness of what you're talking about.
So, yes, they would if they could but they can't.

See #115
Posted by: sal, who watches way too much TCM at October 09, 2024 10:53 PM (f+FmA)

If I were writing a novel about this, I'd say the control was limited to manipulating existing systems and required a shitload of energy, so that it could only be used selectively. If it were easy then they'd use it all the time.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 09, 2024 11:02 PM (FnneF)

197 Intentional bad welds at the Newport News shipyard has recently been in the news. Thankfully the inspectors haven't reached the third world attitude yet of 'good enough'.

I'm seeing that attitude more and more and I never thought I'd see in the USA.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 11:02 PM (zn6Ro)

198 Braenyard

The USN has has subs sink at the pier also. It happens.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:03 PM (u82oZ)

199 Milton down to 105 MPH on 11:00 update.

Central pressure up to 960 mb.

Wind shear might not have saved the day, but it certainly will massively lessen the damage!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

The climate change cult will be heartbroken.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 11:03 PM (vJiyU)

200 mnw

I apologize again for being jerky to you the other day.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:04 PM (u82oZ)

201 I have a feeling the regime in Tehran is in its final days.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 10:52 PM (RIvkX)

So the Iranians are finally going to overthrow the mullahs? 'Cause that's the only way the mullahcracy in Iran ends. The West can't war them out of existence, not without tremendous loss of life.

Posted by: RickZ at October 09, 2024 11:04 PM (gKDq2)

202 192 Milton down to 105 MPH on 11:00 update.

Central pressure up to 960 mb.

Wind shear might not have saved the day, but it certainly will massively lessen the damage!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Any reports on storm surge? That's what will kick their ass.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * tired of the dark at October 09, 2024 11:04 PM (pTPLK)

203 Some Rat

The climate change people are rooting for the death of others.

Put that on your target lists.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:05 PM (u82oZ)

204 Alan Zimm that nicely analyzes and debunks most of them.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 10:56 PM (GcNJ2)

Ahhh. Cool.
I've heard of this book but have not read it.
I'll have to add it to the list. I used several combat models when I worked at Boeing. Have always wanted to run PH against a couple of them.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2024 11:06 PM (W/lyH)

205 I have no info on that particular sub but my Navy son was on a Goodwill visit on a brand new PLA Navy destroyer type vessel and he said the welds were absolutely appalling. And the watertight hatches and doorways, similar to our Type 4s, were not.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 09, 2024 10:57 PM

Communism just completely baffles me.

If I was sure to be sent off to the camps for making bad welds, I would make some damn fine welds.

Even in the face of severe penalties, Communism always produces shoddy work.

Does Communism just break the spirit of everyone outside of the privileged members of the Politburo?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:06 PM (Q4Dc6)

206 mnw

I apologize again for being jerky to you the other day.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

That's just how we say 'I love you'.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 09, 2024 11:06 PM (WXNFJ)

207 199 Salty

I remember one sub sank while it was floating routinely at its berth in Vallejo, when I was about 10, circa 1958-9 or so. It just... sank.

Posted by: mnw at October 09, 2024 11:07 PM (NLIak)

208 I just finished watching Rambo: Last Blood... Pretty cheesy, but that's fine. I liked the part where Sly carved out that Aztec's still-beating heart and tossed it on the dirty floor of the barn. That was cool.

Posted by: Ol' "Killer Lips" Franklin at October 09, 2024 11:07 PM (awTae)

209 I remember one sub sank while it was floating routinely at its berth in Vallejo, when I was about 10, circa 1958-9 or so. It just... sank.
Posted by: mnw at October 09, 2024 11:07 PM (NLIak)

Ran out of baking powder.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 11:08 PM (e+kKL)

210 Salty

You've never been jerky to me that I know of.

Posted by: mnw at October 09, 2024 11:08 PM (NLIak)

211 The climate change people are rooting for the death of others.

Put that on your target lists.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Their fricking JOY at the misfortunes of others is why they are in my top five groups for which death is too tame.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 11:09 PM (vJiyU)

212 Gell-Mann amnesia should only happen once . If you continue to believe the accuracy of news articles after seeing an inaccurate one about a subject you are an expert on then you need to reassess your cognitive skills.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 11:09 PM (zn6Ro)

213 Diogenes

I war-gamed out Pearl Harbor on a number of systems. Many, many times.

The Australian game Carriers at War seemed to be the most consistent with actual results. They have a harbour surprise Pearl Harbor scenario and an unsurprised sortie scenario. The sortie game can be ugly for both sides.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:09 PM (u82oZ)

214
FoxyFarmer
@GardensR4Health
“Craigtown”, NC, was taken totally out by a mudslide. The Craig’s alone lost 11 members of their family. 😳

I wasn’t exaggerating when I explained how Mudslides took out entire mountain sides and every house with them.

We are hearing these stories daily

http://tiny.cc/egnpzz

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2024 11:10 PM (TGPs7)

215 So the Iranians are finally going to overthrow the mullahs? 'Cause that's the only way the mullahcracy in Iran ends. The West can't war them out of existence, not without tremendous loss of life.
Posted by: RickZ at October 09, 2024 11:04 PM (gKDq2)
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I have believed for a long time the regime has paper-thin popular support, and a few targeted assassinations, and some demonstrated air superiority (the Iranians have practically no air force) and the regime will simply collapse for having been revealed to be toothless against anyone other than unarmed women.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 11:10 PM (RIvkX)

216 Put that on your target lists.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Who's not on my target list is easier to keep track of.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * tired of the dark at October 09, 2024 11:10 PM (pTPLK)

217 Braenyard

The USN has has subs sink at the pier also. It happens.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:03 PM (u82oZ)

With a submarine, it's hard to tell for sure. It may have just submerged, right?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 09, 2024 11:12 PM (JkO4W)

218 Their fricking JOY at the misfortunes of others is why they are in my top five groups for which death is too tame.
Posted by: Some Rat
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They are a miserable lot. I'd nominate YD and his special brand of creative ideas as judge and jury for them.

Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 11:12 PM (41CYW)

219 211 The climate change people are rooting for the death of others.

Put that on your target lists.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Their fricking JOY at the misfortunes of others is why they are in my top five groups for which death is too tame.
Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 11:09 PM (vJiy

They were so disappointed that the 10,000 body bags ordered prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom were not filled within the first year.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 11:12 PM (zn6Ro)

220 Tonypete

When I say "I love you" to women, I use a different idiom.

mnw is a standup guy who ran a small but fun MoMeet at the Lake of the Ozarks.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:12 PM (u82oZ)

221 PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) – As the state rolls out the Oregon voters’ pamphlet ahead of the 2024 November general election, two names on the Republican ticket will be missing: former President Donald Trump and his running mate Ohio Sen. JD Vance.

According to the Oregon Secretary of State’s office, the Trump/Vance campaign did not submit an optional statement or pay the required $3,500 for candidates to appear in the state’s pamphlet.

Laura Kerns, the communications director for the Oregon Secretary of State’s office, told KOIN 6 News they reached out to the Trump campaign multiple times reminding the campaign about the deadline to submit the statement and fee, but never heard back.

While a statement from the Trump campaign will not be included in the voters’ pamphlet, Trump will still appear on the Oregon ballot.

The Secretary of State’s office noted that the pamphlet is not comprehensive of what voters will see on the November ballot. Not all candidates choose to submit an optional statement.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 11:12 PM (D7oie)

222 199 Milton down to 105 MPH on 11:00 update.

Central pressure up to 960 mb.

Wind shear might not have saved the day, but it certainly will massively lessen the damage!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

The climate change cult will be heartbroken.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 11:03 PM

Increased CO2 in the atmosphere caused Milton to rapidly intensify to a Cat 5.

The Biden/Harris economic policies and Green Nude Eel caused it to rapidly weaken to a Cat 2.

(See, it is easy to write the narrative when you are a member of the Climate Cult!)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:12 PM (Q4Dc6)

223 Ocala FL checking in. It's windy and wet. The power is out.

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at October 09, 2024 11:12 PM (OcGS2)

224
The hurricane hunter flights look dramatic and dangerous, but from the time they started in 1947 only one flight has been lost.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:12 PM (BkEzK)

225 Cicero

Not pierside. That is a mishap.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:13 PM (u82oZ)

226 The guy that moves pianos for a living

Stay safe!

Glad to see you posting. You have one of my favorite nics.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:13 PM (u82oZ)

227 Franpyscho I wouldn't hold your breath - but it might happen. Forecasting the demise of tyrannies like that is an example of Yogi Berra's dictum on making predictions.

The regime has always had fissures to deal with - ethnic, regional. There's a hot war in the south with the Baluchis, though it's not aimed at regime change per se. There are the Azeris in the north and of course the Kurds, and even problems with the Arabs in Khuzestan. One thing that's either impressive or curious has been (for some time) the willingness of some to openly defy the regime - happened when we smoked Soleimani, happened again recently with people burning posters of Nasrallah (and filming/posting it .... um, huh?).

Israel would of course deliriously welcome regime collapse, but probably not a direct objective of (hopefully) coming attacks. Israel's ongoing obliteration of Iran's main proxy investments, and direct/deliberate hits on IRGC personnel, have already greatly deflated Tehran's image and rep.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 09, 2024 11:14 PM (GcNJ2)

228 194 Salty

I doubt the Iranians are receptive to the idea of a new Shah. The last one was perceived (not unfairly) as a UK/U.S. puppet.

As for the leaders of the nascent Iranian parliament, which the Shah's regime finally permitted.... the Ayatollah Khomeini hanged them.

Posted by: mnw at October 09, 2024 11:14 PM (NLIak)

229 Submerging is easy. Surfacing is hard.

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at October 09, 2024 11:14 PM (OcGS2)

230 225 Cicero

Not pierside. That is a mishap.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:13 PM (u82oZ)

Point taken.

I remember the recent story of the Indian sub that had a grand launch ceremony and promptly slid into the inky depths. Someone forgot to close at hatch, IIRC.

I didn't even know they had DEI in India.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 09, 2024 11:15 PM (JkO4W)

231 I tried to fly into Tampa today but was told the Governor closed the Airport. I think he did this to make me look bad and this is purely political saying that the weather is bad.

Today when KJP briefed me she said that the Hurricane was going to hit Sarasota and not Tampa !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kamal Harris at October 09, 2024 11:15 PM (BSF0H)

232 I have believed for a long time the regime has paper-thin popular support, and a few targeted assassinations, and some demonstrated air superiority (the Iranians have practically no air force) and the regime will simply collapse for having been revealed to be toothless against anyone other than unarmed women.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2024 11:10 PM (RIvkX)

The one thing I've learned in my 29 years, one cannot predict how a populace will react to such targeted acts. Look at Iraq. The people had no love for Saddam. But after we overthrew him we still had a protracted war on our hands. Iran is much larger geographically as well.

Posted by: RickZ at October 09, 2024 11:15 PM (gKDq2)

233 I wasn’t exaggerating when I explained how Mudslides took out entire mountain sides and every house with them.

We are hearing these stories daily

http://tiny.cc/egnpzz
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2024 11:10 PM (TGPs7)
***

The town of Oso Washington was destroyed by a mudslide.in 2014. 43 killed and 49 homes gone.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 09, 2024 11:16 PM (W/lyH)

234 If power is restored within 3 days I would consider that a tremendous success comparatively speaking. Let's hope that will be the case.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 11:16 PM (zn6Ro)

235 Padres better get their asses in gear.
Down 0-5.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 09, 2024 11:17 PM (ufFY8)

236 Got my Suburban back from the alignment shop. They said they had to install a camber bolt kit on both upper control arms to get it aligned. But caster on the right at 4.1 degrees, and only 0.5 degrees on the left? And just by eyeball alone, there seems to be too much positive caster on both front wheels. And it is "vague" driving down the road. Depending on the crown of the road, it wants to go into either the near ditch or the far ditch. Straight ahead, hands-off? No can do. And I looked at the camber bolts. New ones on left side, all shiny bright cad plating (known to the State of California to cause cancer and the heartbreak of psoriasis), and the rust-patina'ed original bolts on the right. I paid $65 per side for those nice shiny bolts. It goes back in tomorrow. One good thing: the signed off on the out-of-province inspection, so I now have legally licensed and insured for the road.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 11:17 PM (e+kKL)

237 Please, Ms Harris.

Fly in AF-2 to Tampa today. You can go to CENTCOM for support.

I'd love to see your Jim Cantore TV spot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:18 PM (u82oZ)

238 Mayday Air Disaster episode

When WP-3D NOAA 42 lost an engine inside Hurricane Hugo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_E00cmcMWY

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2024 11:19 PM (rYTXp)

239 Any reports on storm surge? That's what will kick their ass.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * tired of the dark at October 09, 2024 11:04 PM

The earlier NOAA discussion noted that the actual eyewall had sheared and the eye was cloud covered.

The southern eyewall had severely weakened while the northern wall remained strong.

That is the best possible outcome. As Milton approaches the coast on an easterly track, it would normally be the SE quadrant that piles up the largest storm surge. That is the exact portion that has been weakened.

The northern eyewall about now will be blowing to the west from the land and out to sea. That will function to push the current storm surge off of the land.

(Yes, the storm surge will still be the most damaging aspect of this storm. But it will be much reduced from what Milton would have done if it had made landfall two days ago before the significant wind shear degraded the storm!)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:19 PM (Q4Dc6)

240 The USN has has subs sink at the pier also. It happens.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

With a submarine, it's hard to tell for sure. It may have just submerged, right?
Posted by: Cicero

This is why all "lost" subs are listed as "still on patrol," right?

Posted by: mikeski at October 09, 2024 11:20 PM (DgGvY)

241
News chyron says, "Storm relief being used as campaign issue". That's how you know how badly Kammie and Joe have screwed up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:20 PM (BkEzK)

242 DramaAlert
@DramaAlert
Floridian's find a new 'pet' in their home during hurricane flooding. 🐊😲

http://tiny.cc/whnpzz

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2024 11:20 PM (TGPs7)

243 Alberta Oil Peon

Good luck.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:20 PM (u82oZ)

244 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Granddaughter decided the '78 GMC pickem up would be the bees knees for a ride. Started the rehab process yesterday.

Posted by: Some Rat at October 09, 2024 11:20 PM (vJiyU)

245 And it is "vague" driving down the road. Depending on the crown of the road, it wants to go into either the near ditch or the far ditch. Straight ahead, hands-off? No can do.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Sounds like old school bias ply tire steering.

Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 11:22 PM (41CYW)

246 This is why all "lost" subs are listed as "still on patrol," right?
Posted by: mikeski at October 09, 2024 11:20 PM (DgGvY)

LOL

And the OceanGate Titan has technically just "extended its tour."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 09, 2024 11:22 PM (JkO4W)

247 Mister Ghost

Handbags, a wallet, and maybe shoes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:22 PM (u82oZ)

248 >>>The USN has has subs sink at the pier also. It happens.
------------------

Hangs head.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 11:23 PM (Qts0j)

249 Have a great night, everyone.

Head on a swivel, and have a plan.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:23 PM (u82oZ)

250 The power went out earlier for about a half hour and then came back on for about an hour. It was just enough time to do dinner. I think it's probably gone for the rest of the night now -- too windy for the bucket truck. The pecan trees are swaying hard and the occasional gust nearly pushes them over.

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at October 09, 2024 11:23 PM (OcGS2)

251 Increased CO2 in the atmosphere caused Milton to rapidly intensify to a Cat 5.

The Biden/Harris economic policies and Green Nude Eel caused it to rapidly weaken to a Cat 2.

(See, it is easy to write the narrative when you are a member of the Climate Cult!)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

It's the other way around. The storm was Cat4/Cat5 when it was over open water, or over third-world Mexico. As it approached a first-world country, it fell to Cat3, and then to Cat2 once it hit land.

Clearly, the climate cult has it backwards, and all the things they tell us we're evil for doing are what calmed the storm.

Posted by: mikeski at October 09, 2024 11:23 PM (DgGvY)

252 I wonder if Tesla died with all the secrets of his super vibration weapon or if one of our alphabet agencies retrieved the info.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:50 PM (zn6Ro)

Look up "scalar waves" and be prepared to be amazed. Apparently the Germans stole the secret from someone who was working out his plans in the 30's, and the Russians got them at the end of the war, and Khrushchev used them to down Gary Powers and sink the Thresher.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 11:25 PM (D7oie)

253 Posted by: RickZ at October 09, 2024 11:15 PM (gKDq2)

Iraqis are Arabs. Tribal, revenge based society. Settling decades old grudges is the most important thing in their warfare. Afghanis, though not Arabs, are similar.
I don't think Persians are like that. They were always a refined society overall, emphasizing education and art. Of cpurs4, they 3nded up with a more Fundamentalist version of their religion, but I don't think it would be as hard to get them back on their feet.
Have to completely annihilate the Shia hardliners, though.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at October 09, 2024 11:25 PM (Vvh2V)

254 241 Hadrian

Too bad Trump doesn't have the DECENCY to forego criticizing Biden/Harris for their Milton f-ups.

Just as the DEMs withheld criticism of W for Katrina. What? They called W a heartless cold blooded killer, you say? Well, never mind, then.

Posted by: mnw at October 09, 2024 11:25 PM (NLIak)

255 Handbags, a wallet, and maybe shoes.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 09, 2024 11:22 PM (u82oZ)

...and the blonde said, "Every damned one of those bastards was barefoot."

Posted by: Just the Punchline at October 09, 2024 11:26 PM (e+kKL)

256 CDR M siting! How do?

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at October 09, 2024 11:26 PM (Vvh2V)

257 Florida man, who strapped his entire house down ahead of Hurricane Milton, becomes Internet sensation
https://mol.im/a/13942993
Posted by: Ciampino

Those straps will flap like a mofo when the wind picks up. When truckers use those straps to secure cargo, they put a half-twist in each vertical leg to break up the flutter. And unless those ground anchors are long screw anchors, they won't hold, especially once the ground becomes water-logged.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Maybe he wasn't really tying his house down. He was installing an anti-looter system. Because that will be a bunch of spikes attached to straps flailing around his property once one end pulls out of the ground.

Posted by: mikeski at October 09, 2024 11:27 PM (DgGvY)

258 Just watched a Hurricane Hunter video. It looked like they were flying through a solid wall of water.

Question for the engineers and pilots:

How do the aircraft engines ensure enough oxygen for combustion while flying through (to my eye) sheets of water?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:27 PM (Q4Dc6)

259 They called W a heartless cold blooded killer, you say?

Posted by: mnw at October 09, 2024 11:25 PM (NLIak)

The media were very certain George Bush hated black people and let them die.

Posted by: RickZ at October 09, 2024 11:28 PM (gKDq2)

260 I fairly fluttered aboard our airplane flying firstly and briskly to whisk me and my beau to Maui.

[Shatneresque pause]

[Whispered] Wowie.

Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Richard Simmons at October 09, 2024 11:28 PM (eb7Uu)

261 Look up "scalar waves" and be prepared to be amazed. Apparently the Germans stole the secret from someone who was working out his plans in the 30's, and the Russians got them at the end of the war, and Khrushchev used them to down Gary Powers and sink the Thresher.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 11:25 PM (D7oie)

I DDG'ed "scalar waves", and most of the hits had a lot of woo.

Posted by: Just the Punchline at October 09, 2024 11:29 PM (e+kKL)

262 Mudslides have repeatedly destroyed my trousers.

Posted by: Joseph Robinette Biden at October 09, 2024 11:29 PM (ZHv3n)

263 Apropos of nothing, Zed from zeducation had a meme where some cooking chick pronounced "microwave" as MEE-crow-WAAH-vay.

Pretty funny.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 09, 2024 11:30 PM (ufFY8)

264 My power is still on after all this time.

Also, apparently Tropicana Field is now an outdoor field, Milton tore parts of the roof off. They were sheltering recovery teams there, which seems to have been a mistake.

Posted by: Locarno at October 09, 2024 11:32 PM (Swh5U)

265 It's the other way around. The storm was Cat4/Cat5 when it was over open water, or over third-world Mexico. As it approached a first-world country, it fell to Cat3, and then to Cat2 once it hit land.

Clearly, the climate cult has it backwards, and all the things they tell us we're evil for doing are what calmed the storm.

Posted by: mikeski at October 09, 2024 11:23 PM

When it was a Cat 5 hitting the edge of the Yucatan Peninsula, I knew that the remaining Mayans had clearly forgotten to sacrifice the appropriate number of virgins!

/sarc off

I actually have an Earth and Planetary Sciences degree. As far as I can tell, the climate cult has almost every bit of their "science" backwards.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:32 PM (Q4Dc6)

266 Thank you Mr. Ball for your continuing excellent informative and fun posts! Have referred you to my dad (a couple times) a pilot trying to get him to check out all this Moron fun n stuff.

Posted by: NC Ref at October 09, 2024 11:36 PM (jCS2/)

267 I actually have an Earth and Planetary Sciences degree. As far as I can tell, the climate cult has almost every bit of their "science" backwards.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:32 PM (Q4Dc6)

That's what happens when you put ideology before science.

Science is not consensus and is never really settled.

Posted by: RickZ at October 09, 2024 11:36 PM (gKDq2)

268 Even in the face of severe penalties, Communism always produces shoddy work.
Does Communism just break the spirit of everyone outside of the privileged members of the Politburo?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:06 PM (Q4Dc6)

Totalitarian states will throw you in the gulags for being targeted by a co worker or commissar or even your own kid, there is no real safety in skills, or obeying. Everyone is set up to be denounced, and if yo are better at the job than your supervisor, he will denounce you too. Production is not the goal, promotion is determined on other things than skill and ability.
The materials are crap, the techniques are crap and the tools are crap, because just like the end user, every step in the production chain is facing the same issues.
And there is alcohol and drug use, which cushions the dread and screws up the welds.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 11:37 PM (D7oie)

269
Any updates on Lt. Dan? The single legged dude who was gonna ride out the storm in his sailboat?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2024 11:37 PM (RKVpM)

270 I actually have an Earth and Planetary Sciences degree. As far as I can tell, the climate cult has almost every bit of their "science" backwards.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:32 PM (Q4Dc6)

Hmm. I can't understand how someone as obviously intelligent as Greta Thunberg could possibly be so wrong.

(In addition to climate, she's also an expert in ethnographic studies. She has announced that the Israelis must go.)

A fucking polymath, she is.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 09, 2024 11:38 PM (JkO4W)

271 Good thing about Milton, now, is....

...you've now seen ALL of the storm surge that'll be produced on the West Florida Coast.

And to the North of the eyewall, well, those winds are pushing water offshore now. Good for regaining dry ground, bad news for people's stuff being washed out to sea.

Effects on Florida's East Coast will be thankfully, less severe. Worst to come is overnight, tonight. Absolutely Biblical levels of rainfall... now, and till mid-morning.

Still though, Cat 1 is nothing to sneeze at, so Prayers Up still applies.

*pours bourbon* ONT Greetings, Horde. CHEERS!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 09, 2024 11:39 PM (kQgoX)

272 I actually have an Earth and Planetary Sciences degree. As far as I can tell, the climate cult has almost every bit of their "science" backwards.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Not just 'backwards,' but programmed to be destructive. Cult sounds just to cutsy at this point; it's a religious movement programmed by some craven asshole level of narcissists.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2024 11:39 PM (IG4Id)

273 Hmm. I can't understand how someone as obviously intelligent as Greta Thunberg could possibly be so wrong.

(In addition to climate, she's also an expert in ethnographic studies. She has announced that the Israelis must go.)

A fucking polymath, she is.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 09, 2024 11:38 PM

Yep.

When I want to know more about a complicated, multi-disciplinary scientific problem, I usually go straight to a high school drop-out with significant mental health issues!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:42 PM (Q4Dc6)

274 Messing around with this 3D Printer and I was pleasantly surprised that there are 3D Files for Trump/Vance 24 buttons and placards in the marketplace.

It's going to take roughly 2.5 hours to print all 5 of the placards, but they are sizeable, so that's cool.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2024 11:43 PM (XV/Pl)

275 Not just 'backwards,' but programmed to be destructive. Cult sounds just to cutsy at this point; it's a religious movement programmed by some craven asshole level of narcissists.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2024 11:39 PM

If you listen to a Net Zero discussion from the World Economic Forum, they literally are planning to control every single aspect of the lives of the peasants.

I cannot see anything whatsoever that looks different from Mussolini's Italian Fascism.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:45 PM (Q4Dc6)

276 Starting on Halloween images.

https://tensor.art/u/727481333235843246

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2024 11:45 PM (rYTXp)

277 I DDG'ed "scalar waves", and most of the hits had a lot of woo.
Posted by: Just the Punchline at October 09, 2024 11:29 PM (e+kKL)

that wasn't lots of woo, that was MOUNTAINS of woo. It is one of those neo-Fortean subjects that are this side of the the Nazis escaping to Neusudatenland in Antarctica before colonizing the Moon aboard their fleet of Glocken antigrav ships.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 11:47 PM (D7oie)

278 I lived in Loudoun County for 12 years and those data centers sprang up like mushrooms after 2012.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 09, 2024 11:47 PM (w6EFb)

279 I've got some Loudoun land I'll part with, but, alas, it is not data center material.

Also, last Sunday I drove a truck and trailer full of relief supplies to Damascus, VA. 11 hours round trip.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 09, 2024 11:47 PM (GLoMm)

280 Science is not consensus and is never really settled.
Posted by: RickZ at October 09, 2024 11:36 PM (gKDq2)

I agree

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 09, 2024 11:48 PM (pIfcn)

281 I need a source to buy a bag of dicks to send to the appraiser who is fucking up our closing date. Any hints?

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at October 09, 2024 11:49 PM (sRfrW)

282 All third world countries have the 'good enough' attitude. That's why they're third world.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 11:49 PM (zn6Ro)

283 I cannot see anything whatsoever that looks different from Mussolini's Italian Fascism.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

I like to play around with the terminology like 'trans-national fascism' and 'neo-feudalism.' It seems futile to try to describe it with detail. Few understand the stakes, and few understand the possible outcomes - Myself included to a great degree. WCBSF.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2024 11:50 PM (IG4Id)

284 Starting on Halloween images.

https://tensor.art/u/727481333235843246
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Pretty cool!

Posted by: scampydog at October 09, 2024 11:51 PM (41CYW)

285 281 I need a source to buy a bag of dicks to send to the appraiser who is fucking up our closing date. Any hints?

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at October 09, 2024 11:49 PM

Call David French for some of his surplus bags?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:51 PM (Q4Dc6)

286 A fucking polymath, she is.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 09, 2024 11:38 PM (JkO4W)

She was told there would be no math. Plus, nobody is fucking that.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at October 09, 2024 11:52 PM (sRfrW)

287 259 Z

Yep.

Remember all the dead bodies (supposedly!) stacked up in the food freezers at the Superdome?

But it shows such poor taste to criticize Biden at this tragic time.

Posted by: mnw at October 09, 2024 11:53 PM (NLIak)

288 Starting on Halloween images.

https://tensor.art/u/727481333235843246
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2024 11:45 PM (rYTXp)
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Impressive. You'll have to check with CBD about getting one posted on the Mid-Morning Art Thread.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 09, 2024 11:53 PM (JkO4W)

289 I like to play around with the terminology like 'trans-national fascism' and 'neo-feudalism.' It seems futile to try to describe it with detail. Few understand the stakes, and few understand the possible outcomes - Myself included to a great degree. WCBSF.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2024 11:50 PM (IG4Id

Cartelism is one term, neo-mercantilism is another. I don't know of any system that demanded complete control by stakeholders who have no real input on the ownership or management of everything out side of "Rentier-capitalism", but no one knows what that means I have come to appreciate the term "fnck you, pay me Capitalism"

Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 11:54 PM (D7oie)

290 We haven't had any rain in over a month.

Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2024 11:55 PM (IDphi)

291 HE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IS ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENTS UNTIL OCTOBER 16 2024 ON A PROPOSAL TO REPLACE FEET WITH METERS
WHEN DESCRIBING SEAS IN A VARIETY OF NATIONAL MARINE CENTER TEXT AND GRAPHICAL PRODUCTS FOR THE HIGH SEAS AREAS ONLY.
TO LEARN MORE PLEASE VISIT (WEB ADDRESS LOWERCASE)
HTTPS://OCEAN.WEATHER.GOV/PROPOSED-METERS.PHP
-----------------------------------

Let's all move to France, that will make it better.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 11:57 PM (Qts0j)

292 290 We haven't had any rain in over a month.
Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2024 11:55 PM (IDphi)

I suspect you could borrow some.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at October 09, 2024 11:57 PM (sRfrW)

293 We haven't had any rain in over a month.
Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2024 11:55 PM (IDphi)

Cool evening here. Low 40's, little wind, and it seems like a high overcast, as it was all day.

Posted by: Just the Punchline at October 09, 2024 11:58 PM (e+kKL)

294 We got some rain you're welcome to, we won't charge you, just come and get it.

Posted by: Locarno at October 09, 2024 11:58 PM (00DQQ)

295 Yep I'm sure the folks in Florida would be happy to send me some.

Posted by: Archer at October 09, 2024 11:58 PM (IDphi)

296 Call David French for some of his surplus bags?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:51 PM (Q4Dc6)

I know somebody here would know. It just isn't a question I'm used to asking, but in this case? Appropriate.

DH won't let me speak with the little bastard. He figures he knows how that would turn out.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at October 09, 2024 11:58 PM (sRfrW)

297
I need a source to buy a bag of dicks to send to the appraiser who is fucking up our closing date. Any hints?

I own a home that could easily house at least 50 'newcomers' and make my neighbors hate me every day for the rest of their lives. Real estate agents deserve to eat a bag of dicks every day... forever.

I think I can deal with the hate from far far away. I actually like the song 'Mexican Radio'.

According to election returns they're welcoming the 'newcomers'.

So, good and hard.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2024 11:59 PM (RKVpM)

298 Sheds punchline sock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 11:59 PM (e+kKL)

299 I always thought it would feasible to create a national pipeline to transfer 'excess' water where needed.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 12:02 AM (zn6Ro)

300 The dog barks madly at the night.

No telling why.

We are mightily defended.

Against we know not what.

Good dog.

Now shut up!

https://youtu.be/spNzkzcfOuM

G'nite, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Old Liver Franklin and his hound Goober at October 10, 2024 12:05 AM (bqxS+)

301
I hope 'Lt. Dan' makes it and doesn't end up hanging from a palm tree five miles inland.

G'night all.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 10, 2024 12:07 AM (RKVpM)

302
I cannot see anything whatsoever that looks different from Mussolini's Italian Fascism.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024

He also anal dry raped literally ever single girl in my family from age 3 to 97 because we were union members. But what the heck...

Posted by: Donatello at October 10, 2024 12:10 AM (cSlCY)

303
Any updates on Lt. Dan? The single legged dude who was gonna ride out the storm in his sailboat?
Posted by: Divide by Zero

I heard a radio report that said he got convinced to NOT do that and went to a shelter or somebody's house or something.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 10, 2024 12:11 AM (63Dwl)

304 >>>(In addition to climate, she's also an expert in ethnographic studies. She has announced that the Israelis must go.)

Ethnographic studies - a graffiti artist.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 10, 2024 12:12 AM (i24o9)

305 303
Any updates on Lt. Dan? The single legged dude who was gonna ride out the storm in his sailboat?
Posted by: Divide by Zero

I heard a radio report that said he got convinced to NOT do that and went to a shelter or somebody's house or something.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 10, 2024 12:11 AM (63Dwl)

Then he can't really be Florida Man.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at October 10, 2024 12:13 AM (sRfrW)

306 181
They forgot to use Flex-seal spray on the screen doors?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 09, 2024 10:57 PM (5ws+H)
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The boat's cat tore the netting on the screen doors and the tears were never repaired thus 'big holes' vs 'tiny holes'?

Posted by: Ciampino - Do Not Open Screen Doors In Hyperspace at October 10, 2024 12:15 AM (qfLjt)

307 178 It's something in the water that makes you become a Florida Man.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 09, 2024 10:56 PM (zn6Ro)

Saw a fun game on X the other day - type in "Florida man" followed by your DOB (month and day) and see what comes up. It's hilarious.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 10, 2024 12:17 AM (w6EFb)

308 237 Please, Ms Harris.

Fly in AF-2 to Tampa today. You can go to CENTCOM for support.

What is CENTCOM ???????

Posted by: Kamal Harris at October 10, 2024 12:17 AM (PYJJG)

309 Two Aussies dissing on Kiwi Captain who sank her ship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGiAqKftPUA

Glorious language warning.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 10, 2024 12:19 AM (rYTXp)

310 Any updates on Lt. Dan? The single legged dude who was gonna ride out the storm in his sailboat?
Posted by: Divide by Zero

I heard a radio report that said he got convinced to NOT do that and went to a shelter or somebody's house or something.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 10, 2024 12:11 AM (63Dwl)

I saw that, but then he was seen still on his boat under the tarp.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 10, 2024 12:19 AM (w6EFb)

311 Then he can't really be Florida Man.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at October 10, 2024 12:13 AM (sRfrW)
-

Was the missing leg lost during a gator wrestling match?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2024 12:21 AM (QrtBZ)

312 everything out side of "Rentier-capitalism", but no one knows what that means I have come to appreciate the term "fnck you, pay me Capitalism"
Posted by: Kindltot/i]

Yeah, 'rentier' was the french/austrian commie critique, and 'capitalism' was the original marxist pejorative for free-markets. No pejoratives sting in the reverse.

'Fascist' should have been the one that won the day in the mid-20th, but even then the US conservatives were too busy sucking thumbs.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 10, 2024 12:22 AM (IG4Id)

313 The boat's cat tore the netting on the screen doors and the tears were never repaired thus 'big holes' vs 'tiny holes'?

Posted by: Ciampino - Do Not Open Screen Doors In Hyperspace at October 10, 2024 12:15 AM

When I was a young'un, we had an indoor/outdoor cat that did that exact same thing.

When a thunderstorm started to rumble in, she would climb up the screen door, and then use her whole body to LOUDLY bang the door.

It was enough to wake me from a sound sleep at 3AM to let her back in the house.

She was a great mouser, so I considered it a fair deal!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 10, 2024 12:23 AM (Q4Dc6)

314 275
If you listen to a Net Zero discussion from the World Economic Forum, they literally are planning to control every single aspect of the lives of the peasants.

I cannot see anything whatsoever that looks different from Mussolini's Italian Fascism.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 09, 2024 11:45 PM (Q4Dc6)
----
Are they planning to visit recalcitrant peasants bearing false smiles and glasses of castor oil?

Posted by: Ciampino - Only Open Screen Doors In Hyperspace After Farting at October 10, 2024 12:25 AM (qfLjt)

315 Chicago too is going to transform its beautiful, historic financial street "The Canyon" into low cost housing. Can you see the clotheslines hanging from the balconies of the CBOE? I weep for my country.

https://tinyurl.com/4a5wfp27

Posted by: PJU at October 10, 2024 12:27 AM (RRCAT)

316 Hmm. I can't understand how someone as obviously intelligent as Greta Thunberg could possibly be so wrong.
A fucking polymath, she is.
Posted by: Cicero

nobody is fucking that.
Posted by: tcn in AK

If she were just a bit more mousey, I'd hit it.

Posted by: Sam Bankman-Fried at October 10, 2024 12:29 AM (DgGvY)

317 Synthwave vid of Three's Company cast dancing because why not?

https://tinyurl.com/mpwptuxh

bras were not in the budget, God Bless'em.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 10, 2024 12:31 AM (pIfcn)

318 Call David French for some of his surplus bags?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Good idea. Internet search finds a few sites that will anonymously mail a bag of dicks, but they all seem to be gummies or some other candy replica. Nobody's got the real deal.

Posted by: mikeski at October 10, 2024 12:33 AM (DgGvY)

319 Synthwave vid of Three's Company cast dancing because why not?
Posted by: Bilwis

mikeski: That's the wrong music for the era.

The video's poster: "If Three's Company was set in the 1980's instead of the 1970's."

mikeski: He must have seen me donning my Wesley Crusher socks.

Posted by: mikeski at October 10, 2024 12:37 AM (DgGvY)

320 Hurricane Milton Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1200 AM EDT Thu Oct 10 2024
...

A sustained wind of 58 mph (93 km/h) and a gust of 93 mph (150 km/h) was recently reported at the Tampa International Airport and at a Citizen Weather Observer Program station in Dundee. A sustained wind of 45 mph (72 km/h) and a gust of 64 mph (104 km/h) was recently reported at Orlando Executive Airport. A sustained wind of 44 mph (69 km/h) and a gust of 54 mph (87 km/h) was recently reported at a WeatherFlow station near Melbourne.
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It goes on to say
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SUMMARY OF 1200 AM EDT...0400 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...27.8N 81.8W
ABOUT 60 MI...95 KM SSW OF ORLANDO FLORIDA
ABOUT 85 MI...140 KM WSW OF CAPE CANAVERAL FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...100 MPH...160 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 60 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...966 MB...28.53 INCHES

Posted by: Braenyard at October 10, 2024 12:40 AM (Qts0j)

321 Synthwave vid of Three's Company cast dancing because why not?
Posted by: Bilwis

I checked and Joyce Dewitt (Janet) is still with us.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 10, 2024 12:42 AM (5ws+H)

322 318 Call David French for some of his surplus bags?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Good idea. Internet search finds a few sites that will anonymously mail a bag of dicks, but they all seem to be gummies or some other candy replica. Nobody's got the real deal.

Posted by: mikeski at October 10, 2024 12:33 AM (DgGvY)
----
Well, they don't keep you know. They have to be eaten within 3-5 days, depending how funky a taste is desired ...... wait, I don't think 'desired' is the right word here ......?

Posted by: Ciampino - Preserve Bag-O-Dicks In Hyperspace After Opening at October 10, 2024 12:45 AM (qfLjt)

323 Hmm. I can't understand how someone as obviously intelligent as Greta Thunberg could possibly be so wrong.
A fucking polymath, she is.
Posted by: Cicero
-----------
In formative years I never considered thin brains like Greta would ever have a platform. And so many cultist believers following. A mental whiff on my part. Once again. I have outdummy'd myself.

Posted by: scampydog at October 10, 2024 12:48 AM (41CYW)

324 >>> I cannot see anything whatsoever that looks different from Mussolini's Italian Fascism.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Mussolini actully liked Italy?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 10, 2024 12:48 AM (/lPRQ)

325 281 I need a source to buy a bag of dicks to send to the appraiser who is fucking up our closing date. Any hints?

- - - - - -

Local slaughterhouse. For quantity, porcine. For large, get bull pizzle...

Posted by: As not seen on TV at October 10, 2024 12:49 AM (lZAIJ)

326 Real America's Voice has a replay of Trump's Scranton, PA rally.

Geez.

Good for what ails America, that's for sure.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 10, 2024 12:55 AM (kQgoX)

327 Local slaughterhouse. For quantity, porcine. For large, get bull pizzle...
Posted by: As not seen on TV at October 10, 2024 12:49 AM (lZAIJ)

Just don't buy too many. If you corner the market, the supply chain for hotdogs may never recover.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 10, 2024 12:57 AM (5ws+H)

328 Well, I am off to the rack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 10, 2024 12:58 AM (WgwvV)

329 I need a source to buy a bag of dicks to send to the appraiser who is fucking up our closing date. Any hints?

- - - - - -

Local slaughterhouse. For quantity, porcine. For large, get bull pizzle...
Posted by: As not seen on TV

====

Asian market.
If you buy retail.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 10, 2024 12:58 AM (/lPRQ)

330 G'night, AOP.

Posted by: scampydog at October 10, 2024 01:00 AM (41CYW)

331 need a source to buy a bag of dicks

Try Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 10, 2024 01:00 AM (5NDhQ)

332 324 >>> I cannot see anything whatsoever that looks different from Mussolini's Italian Fascism.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Mussolini actully liked Italy?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 10, 2024 12:48 AM (/lPRQ)

Mussolini defined Fascism as Corporatism... which is breaking up the electorate into competing interest groups, and buying off enough interest groups, to gain and remain in power.

20 years ago, we were less Racist, and way less polarized than today.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2024 01:01 AM (QAkQ3)

333 need a source to buy a bag of dicks
--------------
I'd recommend reaching out to Madonna.

Posted by: scampydog at October 10, 2024 01:02 AM (41CYW)

334
Also, last Sunday I drove a truck and trailer full of relief supplies to Damascus, VA. 11 hours round trip.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 09, 2024 11:47 PM (GLoMm)

Hope the trip went smoothly! Thanks for doing what you could to help.

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at October 10, 2024 01:12 AM (Cu0iA)

335 Most recent sighting of Lt Dan

https://tinyurl.com/yckbyxtk

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 10, 2024 01:14 AM (w6EFb)

336 “There is a point in the history of society when it becomes so pathologically soft and tender that among other things it sides even with those who harm it, criminals, and does this quite seriously and honestly.

Punishing somehow seems unfair to it, and it is certain that imagining “punishment” and “being supposed to punish” hurts it, arouses fear in it.

“Is it not enough to render him undangerous? Why still punish? Punishing itself is terrible.” With this question, herd morality, the morality of timidity, draws its ultimate consequence.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

Posted by: Braenyard at October 10, 2024 01:15 AM (Qts0j)

337 I need a source to buy a bag of dicks
----
See US Senate. Take your pick.

Posted by: Ciampino - Do Not Consume Bag-O-Dicks In Hyperspace If Bag Open at October 10, 2024 01:15 AM (qfLjt)

338 313 The boat's cat tore the netting on the screen doors and the tears were never repaired thus 'big holes' vs 'tiny holes'?

Posted by: Ciampino - Do Not Open Screen Doors In Hyperspace at October 10, 2024 12:15 AM

When I was a young'un, we had an indoor/outdoor cat that did that exact same thing.

When a thunderstorm started to rumble in, she would climb up the screen door, and then use her whole body to LOUDLY bang the door.

It was enough to wake me from a sound sleep at 3AM to let her back in the house.

She was a great mouser, so I considered it a fair deal!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 10, 2024 12:23 AM (Q4Dc6)
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My part Maine coon Jasmine did that to my screen door. It's also how she would tell us she wanted in. Lost her at 16 in 2018.

Posted by: Ciampino - Beautiful cat at October 10, 2024 01:24 AM (qfLjt)

339 Looks like we're about done here for the night.

Good Night Everyone.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 10, 2024 01:25 AM (QGaXH)

340 I suspect that the Florida ONTers carry this thread. Done at 1:30?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 10, 2024 01:28 AM (w6EFb)

341 "Florida man" for my birthday (Feb 15):

Florida man claiming people were "eating his brains" leads police on insane golf course chase.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 10, 2024 01:31 AM (w6EFb)

342 Anyone around?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 10, 2024 01:32 AM (w6EFb)

343 #309 Hi Anna
What's really cringe is the Minister of Defense Judith Collins being a fuckwit and trying to defend the dei hire by attacking the well deserved pisstaking and memes. The lesbo who put it on the bottom had been a Royal Navy weaps type. Never driven a boat......
And the email from WO of Navy trying to say stop being nasty to the twat, fucccccck.

Posted by: NZFrank with an M2 at October 10, 2024 01:37 AM (uvPSi)

344 Nobody here but us chicken fried steaks …

Posted by: Adriane Aardvark Alloys Astronomy and Aluminum . . . at October 10, 2024 01:38 AM (TX4bP)

345 Getting 45 mph gusts here quite often right now. Had out first power glitches in Melbourne.

Gonna be a long night.

Posted by: pawn at October 10, 2024 01:38 AM (QB+5g)

346 345 Thanks for the update. Got friends in New Port Richey. May this pass quickly..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at October 10, 2024 01:43 AM (RMN7W)

347 Poop the rainbow

https://tinyurl.com/5t4trdc7

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 10, 2024 01:45 AM (w6EFb)

348 "Poop the rainbow"

Awww... poor doggie!

Posted by: JQ at October 10, 2024 01:50 AM (njWTi)

349 Still seeing torrential rain and violent winds here in Wildwood, FL.

Posted by: Joe Mama at October 10, 2024 01:50 AM (xQAOZ)

350 LOL... Kamala called the Weather Channel for a 10 minute speech to Floridians.

Uh... since when has any VP done this kind of shit?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2024 01:57 AM (QAkQ3)

351 Posted by: NZFrank with an M2 at October 10, 2024 01:37 AM (uvPSi)

to sink a modern ship like that is actually pretty hard.

They must have been really moving when they hit the reef... and in a ship whose mission is to chart the ocean floor???? How the hell do you do that?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2024 01:59 AM (QAkQ3)

352 Buying multi-vitamin gummies from Amazon, in Texas, will get you one bottle-shaped gummy.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 10, 2024 02:01 AM (lhenN)

353 350 LOL... Kamala called the Weather Channel for a 10 minute speech to Floridians.

The first eight were spent reviewing her middle class upbringing, followed by two minutes of drunk cackling..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at October 10, 2024 02:01 AM (RMN7W)

354 ollowed by two minutes of drunk cackling..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at October 10, 2024 02:01 AM (RMN7W)
-

And that's still the result of the Miller she chugged down with Colbert earlier this week.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 10, 2024 02:07 AM (9pmuK)

355 "They must have been really moving when they hit the reef... and in a ship whose mission is to chart the ocean floor???? How the hell do you do that?"

Sea stories... but a research boat ran aground in the Keys a number of years ago and nearly sank. The story I got from some of my sally friends down there was the captain "unceremoniously cleared the bridge" which means he farted so bad that everyone had to leave.

Another story from the same even was that the hull rupture resulted in the toilets in the head overflowing and they stopped it up by jamming bananas in it.

Posted by: pawn at October 10, 2024 02:13 AM (QB+5g)

356 Prayers for all the Horde in Florida. I am off to bed.

Miley, I laughed at the rainbow poop, thank you, making a chicken bog this weekend.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 10, 2024 02:13 AM (Sgq8y)

357 salty friends

Posted by: pawn at October 10, 2024 02:14 AM (QB+5g)

358 Chicken... "bog"... ?

How did I miss this?

What IS it?

Posted by: JQ at October 10, 2024 02:15 AM (njWTi)

359 Nevermind... chicken bog sounds good, but hubby hates rice.

Posted by: JQ at October 10, 2024 02:23 AM (njWTi)

360 The "eye" is in the St Cloud area right now. Showing a min pressure of 28.85 in per the cheapo personal weather stations in the area.

Posted by: pawn at October 10, 2024 02:32 AM (QB+5g)

361 Peeking in

Posted by: Skip at October 10, 2024 02:34 AM (fwDg9)

362 Peeking in
Posted by: Skip

What Holiday Inn Express isn’t good enuff 4 ya?!?!???

Posted by: Adriane the Shower Curtain INSIDE the Tub Critic . . . at October 10, 2024 02:40 AM (TX4bP)

363 Good morning morons

My sleep cycle is highly disturbed. We took off from Sydney Wednesday at 11 am and got to SFO Wednesday at 11 am after 16 hours in the air.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2024 03:16 AM (RIvkX)

364 Wind is dying down and beginning to shift. Hearing a different kind of banging outside. What is left of the eye will be north of us soon.

Remembering back to the best of times:

https://youtu.be/hb54a3zihxY

Posted by: pawn at October 10, 2024 03:17 AM (QB+5g)

365 That's not Google's dam. There are several dams along the Columbia and dark fiber put in by BPA. At one time, there were two aluminum plants that used the power. Both are gone. Goggle decided to build by The Dalles dam to tap into it. I'm not sure when the dark fiber was put in as I found out about it in the 90s. It's managed by BPA though.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 10, 2024 03:23 AM (gfViB)

366 And that's still the result of the Miller she chugged down with Colbert earlier this week.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs

That's ... that's not how beer works.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 10, 2024 03:35 AM (IG4Id)

367 Local news reports SFUSD wants to close 8 elementary schools with fewer than 200 students and two high schools with fewer than 400 students.

You would think the world was coming to an end.

Including June Jordan School for Equity and Harvey Milk Civil Rights Academy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2024 03:38 AM (RIvkX)

368 Local news. It's Fleet Week which means Blue Angels are flying shows Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 10, 2024 03:43 AM (RIvkX)

369 Morning, insomaniacals! We're now on the downslope to the weekend; so there's that at least.

Milton was supposed to make landfall yesterday evening, or very early this morning, yes? Any news from FL outside the zone?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 10, 2024 03:45 AM (omVj0)

370 Can't tell how much damage there is but it made landfall last night. There are a few videos on You Tube from Sarasota, but I think it came in at Tampa as expected.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 10, 2024 03:51 AM (gfViB)

371 LOL... Kamala called the Weather Channel for a 10 minute speech to Floridians.

Uh... since when has any VP done this kind of shit?
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2024

***
This sounds like a MadTV or early SNL skit. She really did that?

When has any candidate who really wanted to be elected done this kind of stuff?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 10, 2024 03:54 AM (omVj0)

372 Looks like the eye collapsed when it hit the coast. 115mph winds. There is tornado damage in some towns.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 10, 2024 03:57 AM (gfViB)

373 Did you find the jar with A.B. Normal's brain?
Posted by: Ciampino - pizza is pizza, even better when it's free at October 09, 2024 10:19 PM (qfLjt)

Some hunchback German bastsrd made off with it before I could grab it.

(Damn, thought I posted this before hitting the road.)

Posted by: tankdemon at October 10, 2024 03:57 AM (VSht7)

374 .
NOOD

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NOOD

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