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Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Sept 28

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Hi, everybody! Any news from the hurricane or fire zones? We worry.

The great photo above is from Don in Kansas, who has posted a gardening year in review, with several great photos and some valuable information if you are planning next year's garden.

The enormous clump of Helianthus maximiliani, seven feet tall, has just started blooming, and the much smaller Tricyrtis will follow in a few days. Otherwise, the garden is pretty much done for the year. This is as good a time as any to look back and see what did well and what didn’t, and what did too well.

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Callirhoe involucrata is the prettiest of all weeds in the prairie lawn, with a splendid display of bright magenta flowers in early summer. Prairie Moon Nursery claims that it is well-behaved: “Mature plants spread out over about 3 feet. Despite these rambling habits, Purple Poppy Mallow plays nicely with others – topping out between 6 and 12 inches – which allows enough sunlight for other plants to poke through and share the spotlight.” Well, maybe — if grown hard with minimal water. In good soil with regular water, once established it becomes monstrous, rapidly overwhelming everything nearby. I’ve kept the plants hacked back, and they’ll be coming out entirely soon.

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I'm growing two kinds of milkweed, which monarchs have discovered.

Don's Echinacea (photo at the link) was also attacked by caterpillars of the Silvery Checkerspot butterfly. But the flowers survived!

Lots more great photos and information at the link. Take a look!

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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

By-Tor is still working through his bumper crop of Habaneros. We got a photo of Habaneros on street tacos, then a detailed recipe for Pineapple-Habanero Jam on Sept. 14 and Chinese Hot Chili Oil (with Habanero) on Sept. 21. By-Tor says the projects below worked out well, too. The hot sauce bottles came from Amazon.

Still working my way through my stash of habaneros, this time with tropical jam (papaya, guava, pineapple and habanero) and habanero hot sauce.

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Enhancing the growing environment for fruits on the Wasatch Front

Yet another Mini Van load from another one of our Food Forests In Ogden. Dry Farming Fruit is much prettier, sweeter than anything you’ve ever ate before! Thanks to the tons and tons of Woodchips we use we can totally stop watering. This increases the sugar content and allows everything to ripen uniformly. YOU can do this too in YOUR backyard supermarket. Even though it is almost October using Greenhouses, Dry Farming and lots of sunshine our harvests are improving! Insanely sweet Donut Peaches, O Henry’s, Honeycrisp Apples, Bosc Pears, Tomatoes NO SPRAY. Will be at the farmers markets we attend in Utah.

MORE Neighborhood Farms!

Chads Midgley

("Dry farm" here may mean "no water since the end of August". This sweetens the fruit before harvest)

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Donut peaches
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O Henry Peaches
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Honeycrisp apples
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Assorted tomatoes
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Red tomatoes
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Figs
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Figs require winter protection on the Wasatch Front. Peach blossoms or small fruit may get frozen out some years if there is an early bloom or late frost. Apricots are chancier, and only a few varieties are grown there.

As a rule, it is a great idea to check out the climate adaptation of any variety of stone fruit you want to plant, as well as the rootstock it is grafted onto (if applicable).

If winter protection is going to be necessary, you need a plan to control the size of your tree.

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Illuminated Manuscript

Seasonal dried fruits – a chestnut and hazelnuts – decorate the bottom of this folio of the Mira calligraphiae monumenta, a collection bringing together a selection of "admirable calligraphies".

A blue iris with spread petals completes the composition. This iris is also called England iris or English iris. At the end of the 16th century, when the monks of the Bavarian Abbey of Eichstätt received its large bulbs from the Big Island, they believed that this iris usually grew there. This sort of iris was later named Iris bulbosa anglicana.

The small format manuscript was calligraphed in Vienna by Georg Bocskay and illuminated by Joris Hoefnagel, two Hungarian artists, between 1561 and 1596.
Los Angeles, Getty Museum, Ms. 20 (86.MV.527), f° 52, 16,6 × 12,4 cm

Marie-Reine Demollière

Original:

Des fruits secs de saison – une châtaigne et des avelines – décorent le bas de ce folio des Mira calligraphiae monumenta, recueil rassemblant une sélection d’« admirables calligraphies ».

Un iris bleu aux pétales déployés complète la composition. Cet iris est aussi appelé iris d'Angleterre ou iris anglais. À la fin du XVIe siècle, lorsque les moines de l’abbaye bavaroise d'Eichstätt reçurent ses gros bulbes de la Grande Île, ils crurent que cet iris y poussait habituellement. Cette sorte d’iris prit par la suite le nom d’Iris bulbosa anglicana.

Le manuscrit de petit format fut calligraphié à Vienne par Georg Bocskay et enluminé par Joris Hoefnagel, deux artistes hongrois, entre 1561 et 1596.

Los Angeles, Getty Museum, Ms. 20 (86.MV.527), f° 52, 16,6 × 12,4 cm

Marie-Reine Demollière

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The Royal Horticultural Society says that the iris is from Spain (if it's the same one). Looks kinda different. No indications on that page that it is an Iris for Summer or Fall.

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Puttering

This week from Bird Dog at Maggie's Farm, Overseeding a tired lawn.

Lawns are sort of silly things, but good for kids. I like a Cape Cod lawn - which is no lawn. Sand, some wild grasses, some Black Pines and Scrub Oak. Zero maintenance. Well, we can't all have that. Deserts are easy too, except for the golf courses.


OK, around here late September and early October is the time to overseed. Grasses like cool weather, and the new seed needs to be watered once or twice for at least two weeks unless it rains: How to overseed a lackluster lawn.

BirdDog has a couple of tips of his own, too.

At last week's link (bottom of the post), power seeding (slit seeding) a lawn.

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After you've finished taking care of the lawn (or not):

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Adventure

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Near the Arizona/Utah border is this truly spectacular sandstone rock formation called the Wave that looks more like a surrealist painting than an actual place you can visit. The undulating rock formations are not only visually striking but also geologically significant, as the patterns are a result of ancient sand dunes that hardened into rock, then eroded into the fluid forms seen today.

Marcin Zając

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Taken 9-23-24 Late afternoon and evening along Million Dollar Highway between Crystal Lake and Red Mountain Pass, south of Ouray, CO.

Ray Mathis

From other available photos, it looks like the Million Dollar Highway is a great place to go to see fall foliage in the West.

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Gardens of The Horde

What's happening in your garden? Any weather-related changes? Harvesting anything? Still have flowers?

Do you have fall leaves?

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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Sept. 21


Any thoughts or questions?

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.


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1 First?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at September 28, 2024 01:16 PM (GYhKE)

2 Thanks K.T.

Second to last picture- beavers "You didn't build that."

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 01:17 PM (nv4jJ)

3 Dunno if it counts, but I'm in a flowery mood!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 28, 2024 01:23 PM (qTM0v)

4 Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 28, 2024 01:23 PM

Check Don's link.

Posted by: KT at September 28, 2024 01:25 PM (xekrU)

5 I think I mentioned a sighting of the wildflower called Slender Ladies Tresses last week. There's been another sighting. I would love to see these! Here's an article on them.

https://tinyurl.com/4exjzaw3

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 28, 2024 01:28 PM (MpVUb)

6 Dudes who like flowers are total fags. (Trying to get something started

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 01:29 PM (nv4jJ)

7 6 Dudes who like flowers are total fags. (Trying to get something started
Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 01:29 PM (nv4jJ)


We'll straighten you out you little prick.


Posted by: Guy Lafleur at September 28, 2024 01:33 PM (IDphi)

8 Nothing but Flowers. Great tune by Talking Heads.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 01:34 PM (nv4jJ)

9 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
This is every year my prime season for my Anaheim peppers, have at least 6 nice size and ripe in bowl. Now need to grill them.
And still finding a cucumber daily but they are really done for.

Posted by: Skip at September 28, 2024 01:36 PM (fwDg9)

10 Dudes who like flowers are total fags. (Trying to get something started
Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 01:29 PM (nv4jJ)
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They often turn out to become notorious pedaffodils.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 28, 2024 01:36 PM (qTM0v)

11 Biden has a keen appreciation for flowering buds. It's been a life long passion.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 01:38 PM (nv4jJ)

12 Beautiful photos as usual, and I like the yellow pea flowers on Don's site.

I had an interesting thing happen in the garden: cross-pollination of summer and winter squash. Specifically, black beauty zucchini and yellow acorn squash.

Early this month, I had several weird, pale yellow zucchini that shriveled on the vine. I didn't catch on until I found an acorn squash that grew longer and longer. I'm not sure how to tell when it's ready to pick, but I look forward to taste-testing it.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 28, 2024 01:39 PM (gJoNf)

13 Best time of year here. Leaves will start falling in a few weeks.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 01:43 PM (nv4jJ)

14 Thank you K.T.

All the fruit looks amazing! So hungry....

Our tiny part of Ontario had the tiniest little black flying bugs that land and bite you. Very annoying. They lasted a week or so last year.

Posted by: Stateless at September 28, 2024 01:49 PM (jvJvP)

15 Dudes who like flowers are total fags. (Trying to get something started
Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 01:29 PM (nv4jJ)
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They often turn out to become notorious pedaffodils.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 28, 2024 01:36 PM (qTM0v)

Is there an identity based on stems? Panstemsual?

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 01:50 PM (nv4jJ)

16 It's been really pretty here in the PNW this week. Scattered showers, some lovely sunsets, and humpback whales visible from my beach. There's also a new baby Orca in one of the southern Puget Sound pods. I believe it's L pod. I've seen pictures, but not a live sighting. It's just beautiful seeing it swim with momma.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 28, 2024 01:54 PM (H3kqf)

17 We've spent the last nine days painting the great room, which was done in the Joanna Gaines palette of grey, some more grey and charcoal by the flippers.

It's now a warm cream, with white trim. The difference is amazing and w
e love it, but we are now officially Too Old to do this anymore. We will hire someone to do the bedroom.
I'm afraid I bored my friends over this- a fellow volunteer said "You're having an open house so we can see this, right?"

Posted by: sal at September 28, 2024 01:56 PM (f+FmA)

18 Caterpillar in third picture is beautiful. Just amazing.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 01:56 PM (nv4jJ)

19 We will still get some days in the '80s or so, but the mornings are lovely and cool.
Currently, I am decluttering the shed- ruthlessly- it is so easy to pick up stuff from the thrift store that I wind up not using. I will be mulching the paths, putting sheet compost on the beds and generally tidying up.
When he recovers from painting, he will finish the compost bins in time for the leaves to fall.

Posted by: sal at September 28, 2024 02:03 PM (f+FmA)

20 NaughtyPine at September 28, 2024 01:39 PM

The pale yellow zucchini that shriveled on the vine may not have been pollinated, or may not have been pollinated enough to get bigger.

Your acorn squash may not be getting longer because it was cross-pollinated by zucchini this year. It may be the result of seed that was somehow cross-pollinated last year. Zucchini and acorn squash are the same species.

Posted by: KT at September 28, 2024 02:04 PM (xekrU)

21 Leafs changing color are because they're dying. Fall is all about death and dying.

Posted by: Archer at September 28, 2024 02:05 PM (IDphi)

22 Oh and crappy pumpkin spice.

Posted by: Archer at September 28, 2024 02:06 PM (IDphi)

23 Mr Ray bite your tongue 👅

I need to clean out compost bit soon for the new crop
Not looking forward to it

Posted by: Skip at September 28, 2024 02:07 PM (fwDg9)

24 It's going to be in the high 90's today and tomorrow with red flag warnings.

Posted by: Archer at September 28, 2024 02:07 PM (IDphi)

25 Leafs changing color are because they're dying. Fall is all about death and dying.
Posted by: Archer at September 28, 2024 02:05 PM (IDphi)

And the prelude to rebirth.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 02:08 PM (nv4jJ)

26
Race against time here in SE PA. I put my cherry tomatoes into the ground too early, and for some reason when the temps hit optimum they put all their energy into growing tall, but little into budding. Now I have hundreds of buds and lower temperatures. Maybe three weeks until first frost, about October 20th. It's going to be close.

I think I understand why farmers will only key on growing one crop. The complexity grows the more crops you grow. I do know that next year I will devote at least twice as much area to growing stuff. More lettuce, more tomato, more cucumbers. Basic salad stuff that is not cheap at the grocery store, but with the addition of some small quantity of protein should cover at least one healthy meal a day.

My advice to a beginner would be to concern yourself with growing lettuce and tomato, then expand from there.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 28, 2024 02:11 PM (RKVpM)

27 Skip, you are fortunate to have land to tend to. Of course you know that.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 02:13 PM (nv4jJ)

28 Well my garden started off great and then seriously declined. I thought it might have been a thrips infestation but when I shake affected plant stems over a piece of paper, I don't see any thrips.

Posted by: Emmie at September 28, 2024 02:20 PM (Sf2cq)

29 I do hate crowding

Posted by: Skip at September 28, 2024 02:23 PM (fwDg9)

30 The last week of Summer the high temps here were low to mid 90s.
The 1st full week of Autumn and we're seeing a mere 110F today.
Mother nature, you're such a prankster!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 28, 2024 02:23 PM (bz8Vd)

31 The last week of Summer the high temps here were low to mid 90s.
The 1st full week of Autumn and we're seeing a mere 110F today.
Mother nature, you're such a prankster!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 28, 2024 02:23 PM (bz8Vd)

AZ, at least it's a dry heat.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 02:31 PM (nv4jJ)

32 17 We've spent the last nine days painting the great room, which was done in the Joanna Gaines palette of grey, some more grey and charcoal by the flippers.

Yes, grey everything has had its moment in the sun, that’s for sure. I’m also switching from S-W Popular Gray to a buttery cream shade for the walls.

Posted by: kallisto at September 28, 2024 02:33 PM (9CXxi)

33 The produce from the Ogden Farmers’ Market looks spectacular! As fresh and yummy as the produce at the market in Ottawa.

Yes, Ottawa.

Posted by: kallisto at September 28, 2024 02:35 PM (9CXxi)

34 South Jersey no longer offers fruits and veggies in abundance. It seems the old farms have switched to growing warehouses.

Posted by: kallisto at September 28, 2024 02:37 PM (9CXxi)

35 Yes, grey everything has had its moment in the sun, that’s for sure. I’m also switching from S-W Popular Gray to a buttery cream shade for the walls.
Posted by: kallisto at September 28, 2024 02:33 PM (9CXxi)

We would do to well with a fifties-sixties style comeback. Today is boring and bad.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 02:39 PM (nv4jJ)

36 The Million Dollar Highway is spectacular any time it is open.

Posted by: Hal Dall at September 28, 2024 02:44 PM (mF+hx)

37 When is western Colorado going to have a "Greater Wyoming" movement?

Posted by: Hal Dall at September 28, 2024 02:46 PM (mF+hx)

38 When is western Colorado going to have a "Greater Wyoming" movement?
Posted by: Hal Dall at September 28, 2024 02:46 PM (mF+hx)

Encroachment is a thing. The worst drive out the best.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 02:50 PM (nv4jJ)

39 Grass seed, especially Bluegrass, is going to be far better planted in the Fall than in the Spring.

I'm convinced the problem is Marketing. A garden shop that doesn't sell Grass seed and Fertilizer in the spring, and counsels customers how stupid it is to try and grow grass from Spring into Summer, would lose a lot of business.

So they stock everything up and sell it, because the Customer is an idiot, but we do need to take his money, or else who really is the idiot here in the equation?

Posted by: Common Tater at September 28, 2024 02:51 PM (U+NeW)

40 I saw the Thrips Infestation open for Fleetwood Mac at McElroy auditorium in '77

Posted by: Common Tater at September 28, 2024 02:53 PM (U+NeW)

41
I painted every room in my house in a very light, slightly warm gray. The white floor trim, doors, and heating registers 'pop' with color. No hand-prints or markings visible anywhere, no issues after many years.

'Just say No' to white and eggshell white. Tone it down a bit and enjoy the low/no maintenance look for a long time.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 28, 2024 02:57 PM (RKVpM)

42 Grass, left on its own grows. Our want to have "lawns" takes it to something else.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 02:57 PM (nv4jJ)

43 Lawns are beautiful, and have a cooling effect, too.

Not a fan of chemicals and herbicides and fertilizers though. I can grow prize winning, blue-ribbon Thistle though, and you should see the Dandelion this year!

I'm going to offer the "Lazy Man's Yard Mix" seed, consisting of a proprietary, expert Blend of Dandelion, Purslane, Thistle, Creeping Charlie, Clover, Plantain, and Violet. Should be a hit. Easy to grow, drought tolerant, nice color. Low maintenance.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 28, 2024 03:02 PM (U+NeW)

44 'Just say No' to white and eggshell white. Tone it down a bit and enjoy the low/no maintenance look for a long time.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 28, 2024 02:57 PM (RKVpM)

Green Orange Yellow of the fifties-sixties is going to come back in fashion. Just wait awhile.

Posted by: Mr Ray at September 28, 2024 03:02 PM (nv4jJ)

45 We are finally getting a whole lot of much needed rain. We had about 6 weeks of hot and very dry weather. It started raining and windy very late Thursday night and continued through last night. Still raining but the wind has stopped howling across my hill. Not soon enough. My 20 year old redbud tree is now broken. One large limb down. The shitty old pecan tree has multiple larger and smaller branches down.
Better news.... My hydrangeas have flower buds! I have never seen one bloom the same year it's transplanted. One had a full flower in August but now all of them have flower buds. It's crazy how late this is happening. I hope it doesn't cause trouble next summer when they should be blooming.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 28, 2024 03:05 PM (4XwPj)

46 Race against time here in SE PA. I put my cherry tomatoes into the ground too early, and for some reason when the temps hit optimum they put all their energy into growing tall, but little into budding. Now I have hundreds of buds and lower temperatures. Maybe three weeks until first frost, about October 20th. It's going to be close. [ . . . ]
11 PM (RKVpM)


Last year I was taking a stab at trellising my tomatoes, and when it got hot, I hung shadecloth over the trellises and ran a mister under it to try and keep the temperatures down. I am never very sure if I ever got anything right, but I did get a lot of tomatoes. It might have been because of the watering though.
This year I half assed everything and did not get much beyond cherry tomatoes. Next year I will go back to trying to do the shade and misting.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 28, 2024 03:06 PM (D7oie)

47 Green Orange Yellow

Colors of my Senegal bird! Well, add grey.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 28, 2024 03:10 PM (hCjtc)

48 Pet nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 28, 2024 03:28 PM (2UnvF)

49 From Boise area: Highs 77-93 F, lows 46-64. Returned from a trailer trip on Sat. 21st. I told friends to come get free food - they didn't. I found many too-large zucchini, which I had to compost with a machete. Lots of red raspberries at first, though they've slowed down. Also lots of Sun Gold tomatoes, which are producing steadily. Slicing and paste tomatoes still coming in. Husband picked a few of the apples and pears we got - if we want to make cider, we'll need to buy apples. Gasp!

I've dug all the flowers out of one bed - they came from a hummingbird mix years back, but I don't see hummingbirds on the flowers that have survived, they aren't good cut flowers, and the lupine attracted aphids like crazy. Time to put that bed into food production!

We just dug 2 more of our potato bags but I haven't weighed them yet. A number of these will become seed potatoes, since they're green.

We had to pull the irrigation tubing (known as The Squid) out of the corn patch - heavy weeds this year... Husband has also had to repair my toilet, replace the bathroom fan in the trailer, and call a washing machine repairman - a rough week for our infrastructure.

Posted by: Pat* at September 28, 2024 04:01 PM (diewX)

50 Common Tater at September 28, 2024 03:02 PM

Leave the thistle out and you may get some customers! Then plant edible thistles (cardoon or artichoke) on the side.

Posted by: KT at September 28, 2024 04:14 PM (xekrU)

51 Finally got power in early afternoon here in Tallahassee. What a summer so far. Early in the summer we had 3 tornadoes come through town, and two months later the first hurricane. Now this one hits. So if you think you’re having bad weather, please hold our beer.

Posted by: Ron at September 28, 2024 04:58 PM (KDtr3)

52 Posted by: Common Tater at September 28, 2024 03:02 PM (U+NeW)

You’re describing a variety of ‘eco-lawn’

The low growing mixes are getting some traction, but I don’t think my HOA would allow it.

Thistle attracts goldfinchies

Posted by: kallisto at September 28, 2024 05:02 PM (9CXxi)

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