THE MORNING RANT: Broken Institutions & the Rot that Ensued from Kicking Out Conservative Institutionalists

Ace had an excellent post last week about the state of institutions that formerly served an important role in society – institutions which were once worthy of respect, but are now irreparably broken. I would like to expand on that, pointing out that the eviction of conservatives from once-great institutions destroyed the foundational structures which sustained them. Without the volunteer labor, financial support, and reverence for an institution’s legacy that conservatives brought, many institutions find themselves in collapse – financially, structurally, and reputationally.

In that post titled Brokenism: The Main Political Battle of Our Time, Ace wrote, “It's between those that recognize our institutions are corrupt and hopelessly broken, and those who continue insisting, in the face of all evidence, that everything's fine and Our Precious Institutions have never been better. They just need ‘preserving’ and ‘protecting’ from people who... criticize them.”

Ace’s subject material was a Tablet piece titled “Brokenism” written by Alana Newhouse. In this piece, Ms. Newhouse relays this from a correspondent of hers:

"I'm not a Democrat or a Republican, I don't even think I could define myself narrowly as either a liberal or a conservative anymore. The one thing I know that I fundamentally do believe is…that the dominant institutions of American life--in education, in the arts, in politics--are either totally broken or so weak or corrupt that they're becoming irrelevant. In a way, the only thing I know that I believe in is brokenness."

Over at Twitter, the always insightful Coddled Affluent Professional offered up this spot-on observation a few months ago: “One of the stupidest things libs have done is kick conservatives out of the institutions. No one is more committed to an institution’s mission, reputation, and good health than a conservative institutionalist. There are so many key tasks that libs lack the work ethic and temperament for that conservatives will just take care of instinctually. Terminal narcissists, the libs were unaware of the free ride they were getting. Now there’s chaos and things are collapsing left and right, and it’s just a bunch of libs shrieking hysterically at each other.

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Just one example of many is The Art Institute of Chicago’s determination a few years ago that accepting volunteer labor from white docents is an act of racism…so it fired them.

“Chicago museum fires all of its mostly White female, financially well-off docents for lack of diversity” [Fox News – 10/17/2021]

The Art Institute of Chicago fired all of its trained volunteers and guides last month, who were mostly older White women, to diversify its team.
The firings were apparently sparked by the fact that most of the docent staff was composed of older White, financially well-off women, the outlet reported. Stein said that the museum needed to take a new path "in a way that allows community members of all income levels to participate, responds to issues of class and income equity, and does not require financial flexibility."

As I noted at the time, “The Art Institute’s endowment is worth in excess of $1 billion. It was probably contributed by the same out-of-favor people who volunteer as docents. To show its commitment to ending racism, the Art Institute must re-distribute its endowment to Chicago’s non-docent class. Anything short of redistributing that full $1B endowment would be racist.” Alas, the Art Institute will keep the money given by the docent class, while also purging the museum of their physical involvement in the museum’s operation.

These actions have consequences. Benjamin Blair had been a contributor to the Art Institute of Chicago. A few months later he wrote this at The Chicago Contrarian.

My annual membership to the venerable institution was up at the end of last year. And when it lapsed, after “Docent Gate,” I responded that my family would not be renewing in an e-mail response to the renewal notice. I told the Art Institute of Chicago “no” on my family membership renewal because the docents were essential to why we loved the museum so much over the years, and that one-sided political advocacy from such an institution was deeply disturbing to me.

On a more personal level, I grew up with the Presbyterian church (PCUSA) that my family attended playing a prominent role. In the 1970s and early ‘80s, much of my social life revolved around that church. The adult role models who helped shape my values were very active in it, and I observed retirees dedicating themselves to the church, both financially and with their time.

The Presbyterian Church (PCUSA) has since collapsed, losing 70% of its membership between 1990 and 2022, dropping from 3.8 million members to 1.1 million. This was due to radical leftists taking over the church. They wear the vestments, but they’ve rejected the tenets of the faith, replacing The Word with left-wing politics. I had had enough and quit the Presbyterian Church about 20 years ago, but my mother hung on until just a couple of years ago, continuing to volunteer her time and money. Her peers kept peeling off, however, and going to non-denominational churches where they receive biblical guidance centered around an actual faith in God and Jesus. My mother, who is in her 80s, is still an active church-goer, but after 60+ years of being in service to the Presbyterian Church, it finally succeeded in running her off, and she now attends a non-denominational church.

Meanwhile the Presbyterian church my mom had been attending is about to close permanently. The kids disappeared when young families stopped bringing their children to a church that treats the rainbow flag as sacred. Sunday School obviously went away too, without children to attend it, nor volunteer parents to teach the children. The choir evaporated, with some volunteer singers choosing to leave for churches that were still vital, while others drifted away when they couldn’t stomach singing hymns that changed the lyrics to a gender-neutralized God. And, without all the retired and empty-nest men offering their time to the church’s upkeep, the grounds and facilities fell into decline.

The old institutions cannot be salvaged. It’s best to think of them as already dead and gone. Let’s defund them, disregard them, and create new institutions where the void needs to be filled.

Iowahawk’s most famous Tweet remains as relevant as ever:

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 st!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:00 AM (HnUIn)

2 st

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 16, 2024 11:00 AM (CIS44)

3 oh cmon Joe!

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 16, 2024 11:00 AM (CIS44)

4 Howdy!

Posted by: Moonbeam at September 16, 2024 11:00 AM (rbKZ6)

5 Unburdened by what has been over here, boss!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 16, 2024 11:01 AM (u73oe)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

7 More the rot that came when unelected bureaucracies became a power unto themselves and those running them lost the little voice telling them that their power should be used for the good of all, not to punish their ideological enemies.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 16, 2024 11:01 AM (y31cs)

8 It's quite funny that someone mentioned Alice in Chains in the last thread and my playlist immediately rolls Alice in Chains.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

9 On a more personal level, I grew up with the Presbyterian church (PCUSA) that my family attended playing a prominent role. In the 1970s

Same. 1969. Dad was a deacon. Broke with the church when they backed some cop killer.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 16, 2024 11:02 AM (+qXYP)

10 The one thing I know that I fundamentally do believe is…that the dominant institutions of American life--in education, in the arts, in politics--are either totally broken or so weak or corrupt that they're becoming irrelevant.
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Follow that thread and it doesn't look good. If the institutions that comprise "America" are irrelevant, then so is the country.

Whoops. Accidentally killed the golden goose. Tale as old as time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:02 AM (HnUIn)

11 closed for remodeling...not repairs

Posted by: BignJames at September 16, 2024 11:03 AM (AwYPR)

12 Everything is broken and sucks.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 16, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)

13 Everything's gone to hell in a handbasket since Dave Grohl stepped out on his wife.

Posted by: spindrift at September 16, 2024 11:05 AM (OguvZ)

14 Burn the Cultural Marxists Seminaries down, my opinion that's where our Rdpublic was destroyed.

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2024 11:05 AM (JxbyS)

15 The left works as a virus - whatever the original intent of an institution was as soon as the left takes it over the only thing it produces from that point on is more leftists.

So as odd as it might seem the purge of conservative "institutionalists" who don't stop them from doing that but do make the origination function better is a good thing.

Now if those conservatives had fought the take over? That would have been a different story but generally they did not.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:05 AM (oZhjI)

16 I didn't leave the Catholic Church, it left me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)

17 12 Everything is broken and sucks.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 16, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)

Everything is broken, suck, is gay and lame.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 16, 2024 11:06 AM (y31cs)

18 >>because the docents were essential to why we loved the museum so much over the years, and that one-sided political advocacy from such an institution was deeply disturbing to me.

What the left always says when confronted, is that they weren't being political, just trying to be "fair" and "equitable" and that the people being political are the ones taking offense to bein otherized and cancelled.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 16, 2024 11:06 AM (XV/Pl)

19 No one is more committed to an institution’s mission, reputation, and good health than a conservative institutionalist. There are so many key tasks that libs lack the work ethic and temperament for that conservatives will just take care of instinctually.
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Disagree. The institutions are packed to the rafters with conservatives. That's the problem.

The old political or pseudo-political definitions are irrelevant. Here's an example most of you will probably disagree with, but I think underscores the point: "the Millennials may be the most conservative generation in American history."

Well, they are. They are uniformly progressive. The institutions they're taking over from the Boomers are uniformly progressive. They will maintain that position and rigorously and passionately defend the their progressive basis. They're the most hidebound and knee-jerk conservative generation I have ever seen. They put the Boomers to shame in terms of their passionate defense of the institutions.

Just because they're progressives, it doesn't mean they're not conservative. They're arch-conservatives in reality. The political sub-definition is less important.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:06 AM (HnUIn)

20 16 I didn't leave the Catholic Church, it left me.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)

Vatican I head canon. *fistbump*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 16, 2024 11:06 AM (y31cs)

21 Everything is broken and sucks.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Yes. But we can rebuild from the rubble.

Volunteer, speak up and fight. Be a happy warrior.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2024 11:06 AM (WXNFJ)

22 It's quite funny that someone mentioned Alice in Chains in the last thread and my playlist immediately rolls Alice in Chains.

good playlist

Posted by: brak at September 16, 2024 11:06 AM (25k9m)

23 Broken? Or is all going according to plan?

See, that's the thing about 'I'm not a conservative or a liberal'....if you have no values, how can you say if something is broken or not? Clearly Alana Newhouse has SOME standards, she value she measures things against. But her brain has been zapped just like her peers. She can't even say that conservatism is right or better, but some part of her sees that it is.

Gutting the American Institutions wasn't an accident. It was enemy action. Successful enemy action, too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (xcxpd)

24 I didn't leave the Catholic Church, it left me.

Remember the old joke about "Is the pope catholic?"

Well, at least bears still shit in the woods

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (oZhjI)

25 The left doesn't 'just' want us out of institutions.

They want us dead. Act accordingly.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

26 What the left always says when confronted, is that they weren't being political, just trying to be "fair" and "equitable" and that the people being political are the ones taking offense to bein otherized and cancelled.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

See Bob Iger talking about how things like gays in children's movies aren't political it's just right.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (CIS44)

27 Gutting the American Institutions wasn't an accident. It was enemy action. Successful enemy action, too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (xcxpd)

The communist infiltration into American Education started a LONG time ago.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:08 AM (Zz0t1)

28 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 16, 2024 11:08 AM (ZANHd)

29 Remember the old joke about "Is the pope catholic?"

Well, at least bears still shit in the woods
Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (oZhjI)

Preach!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:08 AM (Zz0t1)

30 In that post titled Brokenism: The Main Political Battle of Our Time, Ace wrote, “It's between those that recognize our institutions are corrupt and hopelessly broken

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This was a fantastic article and I remember reading it back in 2022 or so. It's well worth the read if you haven't.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Haitians are the invasive species introduced to solve the geese problem at September 16, 2024 11:08 AM (Zfg3y)

31 The old institutions cannot be salvaged. It’s best to think of them as already dead and gone.
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They're still quite vibrant. They may not stay that way, but for now, they are. And being rigorously and enthusiastically defended by those who conquered them in the first place.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)

32 On a more personal level, I grew up with the Presbyterian church (PCUSA)

same here -- as an adult I tried going when looking at churches and....yikes

I wish there were non-denominational churches that did a traditional service but around here they all seem to be of the "mega church" rock band waterslide variety, but hey at least no rainbow flags

Posted by: brak at September 16, 2024 11:09 AM (25k9m)

33 SPONGE!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 16, 2024 11:08 AM (ZANHd)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)

34
"Shut up and go sit in a corner" Has been the leftist response to everything for a while now, it's just that hearing it from everyone in authority in government and media is startling.

The cheat in November will be straight in your face, comrade morons.

Posted by: Auspex at September 16, 2024 11:09 AM (j4U/Z)

35 The left has torn down innumerable Chestertonian Fences. And now while most of them chant "its good that they are gone" people that aren't insane notice there was a reason for those fences.

But only a fraction of the sane seem to be willing to make an effort to then rebuild those fences.

And things will continue to get worse until they do.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:09 AM (oZhjI)

36 The left doesn't 'just' want us out of institutions.

They want us dead. Act accordingly.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

Fact.

They want to be the only one and are willing to kill you to do it.

"By any means necessary."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

37 Gutting the American Institutions wasn't an accident. It was enemy action. Successful enemy action, too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (xcxpd)

The communist infiltration into American Education started a LONG time ago.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:08 AM (Zz0t1)

Yup.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2024 11:10 AM (W/lyH)

38 "Shut up and go sit in a corner" Has been the leftist response to everything for a while now, it's just that hearing it from everyone in authority in government and media is startling.

The cheat in November will be straight in your face, comrade morons.
Posted by: Auspex at September 16, 2024 11:09 AM (j4U/Z)

More 'Shut up and die, racist!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 16, 2024 11:10 AM (y31cs)

39 "Shut up and go sit in a corner" Has been the leftist response to everything for a while now, it's just that hearing it from everyone in authority in government and media is startling.

Someone had a great mashup of FNM stories saying one of the latest Star Wars shitfests wasn't for men so men should stop complaining...followed up with a bunch of FNM stories complaining that since men didn't watch the show it ended up being cancelled.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:11 AM (oZhjI)

40 They want to be the only one and are willing to kill you to do it.

"By any means necessary."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:10 AM

Challenge accepted.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 16, 2024 11:11 AM (ZANHd)

41 I wish there were non-denominational churches that did a traditional service but around here they all seem to be of the "mega church" rock band waterslide variety, but hey at least no rainbow flags
Posted by: brak

Yep. I want the old, traditional hymns. And a return to an emphasis on rigorous Protestant theology.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 16, 2024 11:11 AM (v6JzV)

42 The cheat in November will be straight in your face, comrade morons.

Yes. I think they are looking to break our spirits with this one.

Posted by: brak at September 16, 2024 11:11 AM (25k9m)

43 Yes. I think they are looking to break our spirits with this one.

I wonder if Trump has a plan for that he'll do when Philly reports 10M votes for Harris?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:12 AM (oZhjI)

44 Whoops. Accidentally killed the golden goose. Tale as old as time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:02 AM (HnUIn)

Was it accidentally?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 16, 2024 11:12 AM (musil)

45 I wish there were non-denominational churches that did a traditional service but around here they all seem to be of the "mega church" rock band waterslide variety, but hey at least no rainbow flags
Posted by: brak at September 16, 2024 11:09 AM (25k9m)

The Baptists used to be a source of great amusement in my youth but the last time I went I liked it a lot.

Posted by: Auspex at September 16, 2024 11:12 AM (j4U/Z)

46
I remember my teenage experience in the Presbyterian Church. I had to take Sunday School classes where I learned a couple of good looking girls attended. The ministers son was also in the class and he taught me how to tie a hangman's noose. I seem to recall communion was passed around in tiny wine glasses. Possibly grape juice. It seemed the end of every service 'Onward Christian Soldiers' was played and sung.

It was interesting experience. Shame to see they shot themselves in the foot.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 11:13 AM (RKVpM)

47 I don't think it's fair to say any of these institutions are "broken." They are running exactly as their leadership intends them to.

Which not coincidentally is exactly how wary conservatives warned they would ultimately be run. Regardless of its original or supposed mission, any big institution will inevitably be run solely for the benefit of its members and at the expense of its supposed constituents.

In a way, it's amazing the institutions ever functioned at all for the benefit of its constituents. That was the "broken" institutional model. The institutions have all just returned to their natural state of vile putrescent selfish scumbaggery.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 16, 2024 11:13 AM (iFTx/)

48 Thx Buck. The old Frankfurt School of deconstructionism. Rip everything down from the inside and then success! Except as is pointed out the left ain't particularly good at building things up. Sec Buttgiggle's father was an acolyte of Antonio Gramsci another deconstructionist and you can bet your bippy Petey is too

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 16, 2024 11:13 AM (JmfnM)

49 "Just because they're progressives, it doesn't mean they're not conservative. They're arch-conservatives in reality. The political sub-definition is less important."

I guess you are saying they are "conservative" because they are conserving the progressive heritage their parents gave them?

But the traditional conservative conserves things like the constitution and/or actual Christian beliefs. "Conserving" communism and atheism is just being a good "progressive, still tearing down, not really conserving.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 16, 2024 11:13 AM (Cus5s)

50 But it only totaled about $140, because he's apparently a cheap f*ck.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 16, 2024 08:52 AM (16NmB)

Just like his candidate. Oh!!!

Posted by: ... at September 16, 2024 11:13 AM (U/CEs)

51 Was it accidentally?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 16, 2024 11:12 AM (musil)
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Yes, of course. It's always rooted in inverted causality.

"This is working, but it can be benefit *me* more if I take it over. I can take over the machinery, and change it, and it will still work because the institution (or the thing) is the source of its value."

Take it over and run it yourself to improve your position (or that of your ideas, whatever) and it will work because the institution is the source of value, not a repository of value.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:14 AM (HnUIn)

52 Every institution has been exposed. All have been corrupted. Churches, sports leagues, higher and lower education, police, all of the DC monolith and everything it touches-ruined. Journalism-dead. Free speech vilified and those who speak out persecuted.

This is because we are in an extended Judgement Day, which will probably end in 2033 with the end of all things.

Posted by: Days of Noe at September 16, 2024 11:14 AM (CV8a5)

53 They want to be the only one and are willing to kill you to do it.

Much of the left claims that if we all believe the right things they will come to me - reality is just a shared construct don't you know!

But as long as you people are allowed to believe wrong things you will stop utopia from coming to be!

So we can have literal heaven on earth if the lefties just...get rid of us. Its no wonder they have no problem with violence and death...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:14 AM (oZhjI)

54 They are all turning into mosques, like the church next to me

Disgusting and full, little girls wrapped up like burritos

Posted by: Gonzotx at September 16, 2024 11:14 AM (YjECI)

55 >>On a more personal level, I grew up with the Presbyterian church

Me too. Not anymore.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2024 11:15 AM (LkLld)

56 Its like we need a huge military to not protect our country. This is where we are.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 11:15 AM (W3T6M)

57 This is because we are in an extended Judgement Day, which will probably end in 2033 with the end of all things.

Why 2033 in particular?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:15 AM (oZhjI)

58 On a more personal level, I grew up with the Presbyterian church

Me too. Not anymore.
Posted by: JackStraw

yup

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 16, 2024 11:15 AM (CIS44)

59 The old institutions cannot be salvaged. It’s best to think of them as already dead and gone.

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* The venerable US Constitution has entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- You Can't Spell TRIUMPH Without TRUMP! at September 16, 2024 11:16 AM (VqoQN)

60 "Brokenism" captures my position precisely. All our institutions are being destroyed by the corruption of lefty politics.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 16, 2024 11:16 AM (VRzdK)

61 55 >>On a more personal level, I grew up with the Presbyterian church

Me too. Not anymore.
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If John Knox showed up on Princeton's campus Princeton would call the SWAT Team as a response.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 11:16 AM (W3T6M)

62
The cheat in November will be straight in your face, comrade morons.
Posted by: Auspex at September 16, 2024 11:09 AM

Captured in Pennsylvania 2020, Trump loses 20,000 votes and Biden gains 20,000 votes in 33 seconds:

https://is.gd/CISdXT

/ nothing to see here, move along Comrade

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 11:16 AM (RKVpM)

63 The "kick out the old white guys, stuff collapses" thing is real and accelerating.

Current employer passed over that group to hire masses of trannies + dei mascots... neither group is big on staying power to get shit done. The majority of the company got laid off.

Most frustrating part aside from how preventable it was, is that these people that wasted all this time milling around bitching about equity and demanding we shoehorn 37 genders into our software still don't realize it is their fucking fault we failed to deliver and had to fire tons of people. Like cliched Ayn Rand villains, they think the primary duty of the company is social justice.

Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:17 AM (GDyLO)

64 The Whisky Lutherans are great!

Posted by: Oglebay at September 16, 2024 11:18 AM (7fVdQ)

65 OT- J.D. effectively critiques Dana Bash's completely biased interview style:

https://tinyurl.com/5n8mwzh4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2024 11:18 AM (dTTBf)

66 Someone here said it well the other week. For the Left, the inferior must be celebrated, because it's "different" from the "normal." "Normal" must be avoided at all costs, because it makes the inferior feel bad.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 16, 2024 11:18 AM (WPL6O)

67 Was it accidentally?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 16, 2024 11:12 AM (musil)
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Yes, of course. It's always rooted in inverted causality.

"This is working, but it can be benefit *me* more if I take it over. I can take over the machinery, and change it, and it will still work because the institution (or the thing) is the source of its value."

Take it over and run it yourself to improve your position (or that of your ideas, whatever) and it will work because the institution is the source of value, not a repository of value.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:14 AM (HnUIn)

I understand your position, but I think it's incomplete - I argue that the left has deliberately undermined and destroyed vital American institutions in pursuit of their ultimate goal: undermining and destroying America.

I'm sure there are leftists at the tactical level who feel as the person you use in your example, I just don't think they're the leftists operating at the strategic level.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 16, 2024 11:18 AM (musil)

68 OT- J.D. effectively critiques Dana Bash's completely biased interview style:

https://tinyurl.com/5n8mwzh4
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2024 11:18 AM (dTTBf)

Dana Bash is an insufferable twat.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)

69 The "kick out the old white guys, stuff collapses" thing is real and accelerating.

tell me about it

Posted by: Rhodesia at September 16, 2024 11:19 AM (25k9m)

70 Dana Bash is an insufferable twat.
Posted by: Sponge -

And ugly too boot.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 16, 2024 11:19 AM (CIS44)

71
Talking about religion:

"One common saying is that Haitians are 70 percent Catholic, 30 percent Protestant, and 100 percent voodoo," said Lynne Warberg, a photographer who has documented Haitian voodoo for over a decade.

Source: National Geographic

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 11:19 AM (RKVpM)

72 I used to be a part of the PCUSA, and saw the same dynamic at the time. The most disgusting part was that it was obvious that the church staff, especially the pastor, was *glad* each time a conservative family left, because it meant one less squeaky wheel they had to deal with.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2024 11:20 AM (kojSG)

73 Most frustrating part aside from how preventable it was, is that these people that wasted all this time milling around bitching about equity and demanding we shoehorn 37 genders into our software still don't realize it is their fucking fault we failed to deliver and had to fire tons of people. Like cliched Ayn Rand villains, they think the primary duty of the company is social justice.
Posted by: somedood

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Remember, though, that corporations were required to pursue these frivolous, destructive procedures in order to receive financing for week to week functioning.

This was an organized worldwide event. On purpose. And we're seeing the end result.

Great Reset, remember?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 11:20 AM (Zfg3y)

74 The left doesn't 'just' want us out of institutions.

They want us dead. Act accordingly.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

Fact.

They want to be the only one and are willing to kill you to do it.

"By any means necessary."
Posted by: Sponge

The left needs to be very, very careful. They are approaching a point where conservatives have nothing left to lose and then it's "cap a liberal where you find them".

At which point, it gets very ugly, very fast.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 16, 2024 11:20 AM (+qXYP)

75 This describes my experience on several boards, especially my synagogue board of directors.

Just because your a brilliant doctor doesn't mean you know jack sh*t about how to run a hospital.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 16, 2024 11:20 AM (RIvkX)

76 Just one example of many is The Art Institute of Chicago’s determination a few years ago that accepting volunteer labor from white docents is an act of racism…so it fired them.

Worse yet, most of them were Jews.

Posted by: Lifelong Republican! at September 16, 2024 11:20 AM (uxCna)

77 *you're

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 16, 2024 11:20 AM (RIvkX)

78 WTF? You can just straight up fire while people because they’re white now? I mean I know companies won’t hire WiPipo. But at least they don’t outright say it.

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 11:21 AM (Hykxx)

79 The "kick out the old white guys, stuff collapses" thing is real and accelerating.

tell me about it
Posted by: Rhodesia at September 16, 2024 11:19 AM (25k9m)

"Kill all the white people. Then we'll be free."

-- - - - Type O Negative

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)

80 It's interesting how they did it. Obviously, there would have been overt conservatives, and they were removed first. But, what about those people who keep to themselves and don't advertise their political leanings? Well, one way it was done in the alphabet agencies you likely saw a couple months ago. The CIA issues a memo talking about a transgender employee that was able to do his job better based on that "mental illness." It was sent to the Pentagon, Homeland Security, etc. There is no reason for the memo to be made or sent to those entities...unless you are trying to solicit a reaction from employees (water cooler talk). And, say the wrong thing and you're put on the path to removal.

Posted by: Orson at September 16, 2024 11:21 AM (dIske)

81 The Great Sorting continues.
Freedom vs. Totalitarianism

They almost killed Scalise. And they told us it was an isolated incident.
They almost killed Rand Paul. And they told us it was an isolated incident.
They almost killed Trump in PA. And they told us it was an isolated incident.
They almost killed Trump again in FL. And they are telling us it is an isolated incident.

Right now, the FBI is working with Antifa to identify which red precincts to attack and kill voters and politicians in to aid the cheat in November.

That's "what time it is."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 16, 2024 11:21 AM (JaJur)

82 Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 16, 2024 11:11 AM (v6JzV)

Try an Evangelical Free Church which doesn' tmean free from evangelicals. It just means they are not really connected to a denomination . If they're smaller (as opposed to mega churches) they do have traditional hymns.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2024 11:21 AM (dTTBf)

83 The left needs to be very, very careful. They are approaching a point where conservatives have nothing left to lose and then it's "cap a liberal where you find them".

At which point, it gets very ugly, very fast.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 16, 2024 11:20 AM (+qXYP)

I've been asked several times by some friends "are you willing to k*ll your neighbor? Because that's what it will come to."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)

84 "The cheat in November will be straight in your face, comrade morons.
Posted by: Auspex at September 16, 2024 11:09 AM"

We are reaching the point where if the progs stay in the WH, basic 1/2 ton pickups will effective be banned for new private purchase. They've aready almost eliminated every engine bigger than a V6 turbo, also.

People will hoist the black flag to keep the right to buy a real truck. Just you watch. This is a bigger trigger issue than guns, assuming they don't try house to house or otherwise deliberately provoke.

Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:22 AM (GDyLO)

85

* The venerable US Constitution has entered the chat *
Posted by: ShainS -- You Can't Spell TRIUMPH Without TRUMP! at September 16, 2024 11:16 AM (VqoQN)

The Constitution is not an institution, it’s a guide. Government is an institution.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2024 11:22 AM (kojSG)

86 I understand your position, but I think it's incomplete - I argue that the left has deliberately undermined and destroyed vital American institutions in pursuit of their ultimate goal: undermining and destroying America.

I'm sure there are leftists at the tactical level who feel as the person you use in your example, I just don't think they're the leftists operating at the strategic level.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 16, 2024 11:18 AM (musil)
++++
The Progs didn't want to destroy America (or the West more generally), they wanted to take it over. The wanted it to end as it *was* but continue to thrive as they *made* it. This was possible in their minds because of the inverted causality. That isn't a lust for destruction as such, that is a quest for revolution. Yes, the old is dismantled after a fashion, but it is replaced with a better new.

Well, the "better new" part depends on being able to actually do it. If you can't, you just get the "dismantled" part of the process.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)

87 We no longer belong to
1. Our synagogue
2. de Young Museum
3. Academy of Science
4. Jewish Community Center

Why? Because they don't want us anymore.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 16, 2024 11:23 AM (RIvkX)

88 Drive 15-30 minutes into the country.

Find a (Baptist) church that still uses red hymnals.

If the church sings random words off of a screen, stay for the service, listen to the preaching, and then try a different church the next week.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 11:23 AM (Zfg3y)

89 I want the old, traditional hymns.

Our (Catholic) church recently adopted the St. Michael Hymnal. It is specifically dedicated to retaining God as the father and Jesus as the son. It retains the original long-term lyrics for all the hymns it includes and only chooses new hymns that don’t bowdlerize God. It’s a very impressive work.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 16, 2024 11:23 AM (olroh)

90 84 People will hoist the black flag to keep the right to buy a real truck. Just you watch. This is a bigger trigger issue than guns, assuming they don't try house to house or otherwise deliberately provoke.
Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:22 AM (GDyLO)

No, they won't.

Not even having their kids trooned (if male) or pooned (if female) out by teachers has caused the Badass Warriors to hoist the flag.

Posted by: XTC at September 16, 2024 11:24 AM (UnA8+)

91 One of the stupidest things libs have done is kick conservatives out of the institutions.

No. Absolutely not. This flies in the face of Milton Friedman - when he asked "where are all these angels going to come from ?".

One of the stupidest things conservatives have done is give up their freedoms to the "right" institutions - because the "right" men were in charge. Its fundamentally no different than the faith shown by todays leftists.

Its why conservatism has failed. Lets say you somehow win. Are you going to build back all these institutions again - with the "right" men in charge ?

No thanks.

Posted by: Call It What It Is at September 16, 2024 11:24 AM (w8+8g)

92 The art community has always been the wokest of the woke. That's why American artists like Norman Rockwell, Andrew Wyeth and especially Thomas Kinkade are literally ridiculed by art critics and museum curators.

The American military was the last bastion of American conservatism but the Left played the long game and finally took it over. I think that would be considered the Rubicon imo.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 16, 2024 11:24 AM (jNAzB)

93 didn't "Fly Like an Eagle" become a Catholic hymn?

Posted by: Oglebay at September 16, 2024 11:25 AM (7fVdQ)

94 People will hoist the black flag to keep the right to buy a real truck. Just you watch. This is a bigger trigger issue than guns, assuming they don't try house to house or otherwise deliberately provoke.
Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:22 AM (GDyLO

What will people do? Riot? We don’t do that. Well bitch about it, write angry letters to the editor and then go buy a Prius since thats the only choice left.

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 11:25 AM (Hykxx)

95 Bud used to sing at a Cowboy Church.....He left once he found out the preacher was banging a few ladies in the congregation.

Seems way too many in the religious world have forgotten what the religion is supposed to teach.

It's why I feel I have a personal relationship with Christ and don't NEED the organized church environment to have it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

96 didn't "Fly Like an Eagle" become a Catholic hymn?
Posted by: Oglebay at September 16, 2024 11:25 AM (7fVdQ)

Seal does have a heavenly voice.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

97 Bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 16, 2024 11:26 AM (8QLp9)

98 Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 11:16 AM (W3T6M)

Some Princeton U students wanted to take down the statue of John Witherspoon, the signer of the Declaration of Independence as well as a professor and President of Princeton U because he owned a slave. Evidently the University or wealthy Princetonians objected and his statue is still there. I was pleased to see a bouquet of flowers on the base of the statue on the anniversry of his birth.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2024 11:26 AM (dTTBf)

99 (goes to look at every gas can everywhere in the U.S.)

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 11:27 AM (Zfg3y)

100 25 The left doesn't 'just' want us out of institutions.

They want us dead. Act accordingly.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

And they want the institutions razed out of a belief that something beautiful will rise from the ashes.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 16, 2024 11:27 AM (OPGS/)

101 The "kick out the old white guys, stuff collapses" thing is real and accelerating.

I've joked that society keeps running because of 50-year-old white guys, not all of whom are white, 50, or guys, but are people who hold their jobs through sheer competence and experience.

You decide that you are going to use criteria other than competence to hire and promote people, and things go south pretty fast.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2024 11:27 AM (uxCna)

102
Whoops. Accidentally killed the golden goose. Tale as old as time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Did it taste good?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 16, 2024 11:27 AM (63Dwl)

103 "By Any Means Necessary" = the ends justify the means

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 16, 2024 11:27 AM (RIvkX)

104 Anyone want to argue my contention that Trump is leading outside the margin of fraud, today?

His job for the next 50 days is survival.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2024 11:27 AM (7LTUX)

105 I am not banging any of the ladies in my congregation. I'm not a cowboy either .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2024 11:27 AM (dTTBf)

106 The socialist left can best be described as parasitic. They attach themselves to institutions, and attempt to suck the life out of them. When they kill the host, they move on to the next victim.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 16, 2024 11:28 AM (GYHsz)

107
(goes to look at every gas can everywhere in the U.S.)

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 11:27 AM

Can you still call it a 'can' if it's made out of plastic?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 11:28 AM (RKVpM)

108 Can you still call it a 'can' if it's made out of plastic?
Posted by: Divide by Zero

We talking containers or butts here?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2024 11:29 AM (WXNFJ)

109 On about the same timeline PCUSA has embraced the Arab cause and espoused straight up Jew hate in the name of "justice."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 16, 2024 11:29 AM (RIvkX)

110 74 The left doesn't 'just' want us out of institutions.

They want us dead. Act accordingly.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

Fact.

They want to be the only one and are willing to kill you to do it.

"By any means necessary."
Posted by: Sponge

The left needs to be very, very careful. They are approaching a point where conservatives have nothing left to lose and then it's "cap a liberal where you find them".

At which point, it gets very ugly, very fast.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 16, 2024 11:20 AM (+qXYP)

I like the optimism. And I'd appreciate the clarity of a shooting war but barring some spiritual movement, nobody is going to be capping Liberals. It didn't happen after the first coup, I don't see it happening now that everyone is 4 years older and fatter and slower.

But it's good to have hope.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 16, 2024 11:29 AM (xcxpd)

111 Bonk bonk on the head
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 16, 2024 11:26 AM (8QLp9)

You asked for it.........ish.....

https://youtu.be/a2F2Y-ygXh4

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

112 What about trust in the medical establishment? How can you take medical advice from someone who was "surprised" to find out biden has dementia? This isn't sudden-onset dimentia. The signs have been there for years. So either any medical professional paying any attention to biden is either ok with lying about it or doesn't care that the president of the US has dementia. And we're supposed to trust these people with our health?

Posted by: Tom at September 16, 2024 11:29 AM (9DqCW)

113 The Left are able to take over institutions because they are bold and follow no rules or protocol whereas it's the nature of conservatives , while brave are not bold and are rule followers.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 16, 2024 11:30 AM (jNAzB)

114 I’m a Constitutional Conservative, paid taxes (most of them) all my life, obeyed the law (most of them) generally, and served in the military. I’m white (mostly), and Christian (work in progress). At 75 I’m a dying breed. I’m now more like my Pappy Eromero than I’ve ever been.

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2024 11:30 AM (LHPAg)

115 Well, the "better new" part depends on being able to actually do it. If you can't, you just get the "dismantled" part of the process.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)

I've never heard it explained in this manner, and completely understand your point.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 16, 2024 11:30 AM (musil)

116
Anyone want to argue my contention that Trump is leading outside the margin of fraud, today?

His job for the next 50 days is survival.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2024 11:27 AM

Explain Rasmussen the past couple days, if you please.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 11:30 AM (RKVpM)

117 I've joked that society keeps running because of 50-year-old white guys, not all of whom are white, 50, or guys, but are people who hold their jobs through sheer competence and experience.

You decide that you are going to use criteria other than competence to hire and promote people, and things go south pretty fast.
Posted by: The ARC of History

I have been visiting suppliers recently. Amazing the amount of grey hair on the floor, and the absence of young workers. I don't know what happens in ten years when the actual workers are done.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 16, 2024 11:30 AM (GYHsz)

118 "80 It's interesting how they did it. Obviously, there would have been overt conservatives, and they were removed first. But, what about those people who keep to themselves and don't advertise their political leanings?
Posted by: Orson at September 16, 2024 11:21 AM (dIske)"

That's not how this works at all. The entire prog political ideology is built around:
- Leaders jockey to define what is true today
- Lackeys backstab each other and direct progroms against the unwashed masses, competing to display piety
- The unwashed masses either out themselves by not getting today's memo, or spend all of their time scrambling to not be labeled a Nazi

The "hey why you gotta make everything poltical, I just wanna watch muh sportsball!" crowd has no idea they stand out like a sore thumb. All of this DEI and freak shit in the office run by the commissars and zampolits (HR, etc) is specifically designed to force people to bend the knee; "keeping to yourself" is not an option.

I already piss people off because I refuse to announce pronouns before speaking in meetings, and I'm effectively barred from promotion. Only reason to stay is $$$$$

Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:31 AM (9etX0)

119 Anyone want to argue my contention that Trump is leading outside the margin of fraud, today?

It implies their ability for fraud has a limit. I've seen nothing to indicate any limit exists.

Posted by: Call It What It Is at September 16, 2024 11:31 AM (w8+8g)

120 >Explain Rasmussen the past couple days, if you please.

Polls are for strippers.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 16, 2024 11:31 AM (cf/0E)

121 My former church is called "Trinity Church", and the trinity the name refers to is Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.

I was asked to find another church when, in conversation with the minister, I objected to his weekly injection of his personal hate for Republicans and Trump into the homily.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 16, 2024 11:31 AM (SkoKp)

122 Learning to modify the Obama gas cans so they work the same as the old style gas cans was a "life hack" that disproportionately improved my overall quality of life.

Posted by: My Sweet Lord at September 16, 2024 11:32 AM (zVDqY)

123 That's impossible! I was told by Strauss/Howe that the Millennials were the Hero generation! They're in the drivers seat now! We Xers are just wandering Nomads!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 16, 2024 11:32 AM (YIxO9)

124 "Captured in Pennsylvania 2020, Trump loses 20,000 votes and Biden gains 20,000 votes in 33 seconds:"
https://is.gd/CISdXT

I recall at the time, someone saying there was no (legit) mechanism for Trump to lose votes. And for Biden to gain the same size chunk just shows someone was adjusting numbers, probably by "hacking" the machines.

But they don't even have to hack if it was their system, designed to adjust votes, then maybe come up with the extra ballots a day or three later. But as with Maricopa County, they never allowed the ballots to be examined.

And we don't know how many times those kinds of adjustments were made on behalf of Basement Joe. I'd guess they have only refined their cheating for this year, with all Biden's behind the scenes "fortifying" and Election Enhancements .

Posted by: illiniwek at September 16, 2024 11:32 AM (Cus5s)

125
I was asked to find another church when, in conversation with the minister, I objected to his weekly injection of his personal hate for Republicans and Trump into the homily.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 16, 2024 11:31 AM (SkoKp)

A sermon for which they should lose their tax-exempt status.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

126 Entropy. It awaits it's turn.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 16, 2024 11:32 AM (g8Ew8)

127 Morning everyone

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 16, 2024 11:33 AM (eZwyX)

128 If Trump is losing, then why try to kill him?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2024 11:33 AM (a1415)

129 Learning to modify the Obama gas cans so they work the same as the old style gas cans was a "life hack" that disproportionately improved my overall quality of life.
Posted by: My Sweet Lord at September 16, 2024 11:32 AM (zVDqY)

Amazon sells kits to make some of them "old school."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)

130 I guess you are saying they are "conservative" because they are conserving the progressive heritage their parents gave them?

But the traditional conservative conserves things like the constitution and/or actual Christian beliefs. "Conserving" communism and atheism is just being a good "progressive, still tearing down, not really conserving.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 16, 2024 11:13 AM (Cus5s)

Sometime back in the aughts iirc there were some articles written about how Stalin, now acceptable as evil, was actually an arch conservative and so basically closer to the Right than the Left.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at September 16, 2024 11:33 AM (lg881)

131 Their goal, in a word, is Enslavement.

Posted by: davidt at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (i0F8b)

132 113 The Left are able to take over institutions because they are bold and follow no rules or protocol whereas it's the nature of conservatives , while brave are not bold and are rule followers.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 16, 2024 11:30 AM (jNAzB)

Effective subversives are usually pretty good at manipulating rules.

They are intolerant(rather than meritocratic) and highly focused on ideology. That means once one gets in, they'll start skewing selection processes towards their group. Great for taking things over, not so great for running things effectively.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (eYoxG)

133 Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 16, 2024 11:31 AM (SkoKp)

Still looking for a good church for my family.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (eZwyX)

134 Polls are for strippers.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

Like my two nieces. Whose mother is a pediatrician - and a Taylor Swift fan, and Kamala fan (she's stunning and brave, and history in the making, don'tcha know). My bil is a cuck.

Educated imbeciles.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (WXNFJ)

135
Not even having their kids trooned (if male) or pooned (if female) out by teachers has caused the Badass Warriors to hoist the flag.
Posted by: XTC

The threat of a Jan6 dungeon looms large.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (63Dwl)

136 Explain Rasmussen the past couple days, if you please.
----
What is to explain? Trump +6 followed by Harris +6. Completely normal with 350 sample sizes.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (7LTUX)

137 "117 I've joked that society keeps running because of 50-year-old white guys, not all of whom are white, 50, or guys, but are people who hold their jobs through sheer competence and experience.

You decide that you are going to use criteria other than competence to hire and promote people, and things go south pretty fast.
Posted by: The ARC of History

I have been visiting suppliers recently. Amazing the amount of grey hair on the floor, and the absence of young workers. I don't know what happens in ten years when the actual workers are done.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 16, 2024 11:30 AM (GYHsz)"

I am one of those white guys, and now that the majority of the company has been laid off and our survival is in doubt, I'm struggling to get the remaining upper management to understand what day to day operations entail. Almost everyone left is either just a talker/hand-waver with no actual ability to do real work, or a zoomer who isn't prepared to cut through the BS.

Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (9etX0)

138 I already piss people off because I refuse to announce pronouns before speaking in meetings, and I'm effectively barred from promotion. Only reason to stay is $$$$$
Posted by: somedood

"The idea this fucker over here brought to the table won't work".

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (+qXYP)

139 The Left are able to take over institutions because they are bold and follow no rules or protocol whereas it's the nature of conservatives , while brave are not bold and are rule followers.

Here is what I've seen in the corporate world.

Lefties demand that we hire people who show they are lefties. Whatever the nominal claim is it is ultimately "this person is a leftist is we should hire zer"

Conservatives actively refused to do this - nominally ignore political aspects but giving leftists their say which was 100% political.

And so the result? As more leftists were hired the companies trended further left. Say at the start 90% of your hiring managers were right and 10% left but after 10 years those numbers are reversed and now only leftists will be hired.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (oZhjI)

140 Is Iowahawk still a NeverTrumper?

Posted by: YCRT_TX at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (yb6XG)

141 I was asked to find another church when, in conversation with the minister, I objected to his weekly injection of his personal hate for Republicans and Trump into the homily.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Not too strong on that 'love thy neighbor' thing, is he?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (WXNFJ)

142 Anyone want to argue my contention that Trump is leading outside the margin of fraud, today?

His job for the next 50 days is survival.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2024 11:27 AM

Explain Rasmussen the past couple days, if you please.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 11:30 AM (RKVpM)
______

I admire the optimism. I hope you are right. I don't think you are right. What is the limit of the margin of fraud? Does anyone know?

Many conservatives think that because the final vote tally was very close in the swing states, that means the steal wasn't that big. I think that ignores the overwhelming evidence that the steal was as big as was needed, with no limits at all.

I think tens of millions of votes were fraudulent. Maybe you think I'm nuts? Well: In GA alone, over 1.5 million ballots were blatantly and obviously illegal and almost certainly phony. If they can do that basically in one blue city in a mostly red state, what do you think they can do elsewhere??

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (iFTx/)

143 If Trump is losing, then why try to kill him?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 16, 2024 11:33 AM (a1415)
=======================

Was it something I said?

Posted by: Davide Plouffe at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (SkoKp)

144 If Trump is losing, then why try to kill him?

Because he’s there?

Posted by: George Mallory Blair at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (olroh)

145 This cancer is spreading out as well, into areas one would of thought, even ten years ago, to be above politics. Private cubs, hobby groups, personal friendships.
As President Trump said, "Fight!!!"

Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (W/lyH)

146 Well, the left is currently making a concerted effort to kill the leader of their opposition. They've killed members of their perceived opposition too. They've perverted every institution in the country to one degree or another. To their benefit.

Replying in kind is about all that's left at this point.

They are obviously not interested in any sort of dialogue. Or social separation. What's left?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (Q4IgG)

147 Can you still call it a 'can' if it's made out of plastic?
Posted by: Divide by Zero

We talking containers or butts here?
Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2024 11:29 AM

*Brazil has entered the chat*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (ZANHd)

148 CW2 would be absolutely horrific on its own but it would undoubtedly trigger WW3.

As China moves on Taiwan, the Korean peninsula goes hot...

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (HvLxF)

149
I had had enough and quit the Presbyterian Church about 20 years ago.

Ditto, only it was the Episcopal Church here. The smug and self-satisfied attitudes of the overwhelming majority of members that were in positions of authority in the parish were repellent in the extreme. One might say that they were exemplary bigots who were blinkered regarding their own bigotry.

I had been a vestry member and the treasurer just prior to bowing out. The parish had just commenced its search for a new pastor. I heard, approximately three years after we had departed, that the man they hired as a replacement had been dismissed after having been found to have been conducting an extramarital affair with the wife of a parishioner. Well done, good and faithful servants! Well done, indeed!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 16, 2024 11:36 AM (dW//N)

150 Catholic Boomers complain about the rap-your-knuckles-with-a-ruler teaching sisters, but they almost surely did a better job than the groomers that replaced them -- and I don't mean just the priests!

Posted by: Pete in Texas at September 16, 2024 11:36 AM (BHrzb)

151 "132 113 The Left are able to take over institutions because they are bold and follow no rules or protocol whereas it's the nature of conservatives , while brave are not bold and are rule followers.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at September 16, 2024 11:30 AM (jNAzB)

Effective subversives are usually pretty good at manipulating rules.

They are intolerant(rather than meritocratic) and highly focused on ideology. That means once one gets in, they'll start skewing selection processes towards their group. Great for taking things over, not so great for running things effectively.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (eYoxG)"

It's perfect for running things if your goal is to sit on a mountain of skulls and be the foot inside the boot that forever stamps on the face of humanity.

Y'all gotta stop thinking these people don't understand what they are doing. They do. I have personally sat and listened to the college profs and fruity artists and librarians go on about how we need to kill a few tens of millions for the revolution.

Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:36 AM (9etX0)

152 They want us dead. Act accordingly.

Three weeks ago, three people from Oregon died in a light plane crash. They were flying to a Trump rally in Montana.

The comments about the crash on the main Portland Reddit (dominated by leftists) were absolutely unspeakable - lots of "jokes" bewailing the fact that there had been an empty seat on the plane.

Yeah, they want us dead.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2024 11:36 AM (uxCna)

153 Learning to modify the Obama gas cans so they work the same as the old style gas cans was a "life hack" that disproportionately improved my overall quality of life.
Posted by: My Sweet Lord at September 16, 2024 11:32 AM (zVDqY)

Amazon sells kits to make some of them "old school."
Posted by: Sponge

Northern Tools simply sell the old school cans.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 16, 2024 11:36 AM (+qXYP)

154 What about trust in the medical establishment? How can you take medical advice from someone who was "surprised" to find out biden has dementia? This isn't sudden-onset dimentia. The signs have been there for years. So either any medical professional paying any attention to biden is either ok with lying about it or doesn't care that the president of the US has dementia. And we're supposed to trust these people with our health?
Posted by: Tom at September 16, 2024 11:29 AM (9DqCW)
===

Wear the mask h8er.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 16, 2024 11:36 AM (RIvkX)

155 "Amazon sells kits to make some of them "old school.""

Needle nose pliers and two minute's time and we're back to pollutin', baby!

Posted by: My Sweet Lord at September 16, 2024 11:37 AM (zVDqY)

156 CW2 would be absolutely horrific on its own but it would undoubtedly trigger WW3.

As China moves on Taiwan, the Korean peninsula goes hot...

TBH Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan should have plans to defend themselves from China/Norks without any American assistance. And if they don't they almost deserve what they are going to get.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:37 AM (oZhjI)

157

Northern Tools simply sell the old school cans.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 16, 2024 11:36 AM (+qXYP)

Do they really?

I must check them out......if the one near me is still open.

However, I have several of the EPA destroyed cans, so a cheaper option is to order the kit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

158 One of the things that annoyed me when I was still going to church (Presby) was how they revised some of the hymns so that the words "God" or "God's" were repeated within the same line to avoid using the dreaded pronouns "He" or "Him" or the possessive adjective "His."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 16, 2024 11:38 AM (v6JzV)

159 Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 16, 2024 11:31 AM (SkoKp)

Still looking for a good church for my family.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (eZwyX)
======================
Surprised I am, to find that a local Catholic Church has been the most apolitical and Bible-focused.

Posted by: Davide Plouffe at September 16, 2024 11:38 AM (SkoKp)

160 Posted by: YCRT_TX at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (yb6XG)

Haven’t paid him any attention since he pulled that.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 16, 2024 11:38 AM (eZwyX)

161 If Trump is losing, then why try to kill him?

As an example to anyone who dares try it again. Look - I get it. Some of you really enjoy elections, the way some enjoy sports. And you can't stand to lose that thrill of watching if the vote is rigged.

So you'll argue the vote is straight. Losing that, you'll argue the amount of the rigging.

Posted by: Call It What It Is at September 16, 2024 11:38 AM (w8+8g)

162 Here is what I've seen in the corporate world.

Lefties demand that we hire people who show they are lefties. Whatever the nominal claim is it is ultimately "this person is a leftist is we should hire zer"

Conservatives actively refused to do this - nominally ignore political aspects but giving leftists their say which was 100% political.

And so the result? As more leftists were hired the companies trended further left. Say at the start 90% of your hiring managers were right and 10% left but after 10 years those numbers are reversed and now only leftists will be hired.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM (oZhjI)

Meritocratic hiring loses control of an organization to Discriminatory hiring(could be nepotistic, ideological, corruption-based).

To restore effectiveness, the organization must be cleaned in a top-down manner(which is not always possible), or the organization will die and be replaced.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 16, 2024 11:38 AM (eYoxG)

163
What is to explain? Trump +6 followed by Harris +6. Completely normal with 350 sample sizes.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2024 11:34 AM

He's been polling for how many days now? 60 maybe? Never saw anything like that kind of swing for her.

I like daily tracking polls because they can sorta show trends after an event, like when the bollard of doom stole Hillary's stinky shoe. Down she went and never recovered.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 11:38 AM (RKVpM)

164
Needle nose pliers and two minute's time and we're back to pollutin', baby!
Posted by: My Sweet Lord at September 16, 2024 11:37 AM (zVDqY)

Pouring fuel into a tank without spilling 1/2 a can on the ground now equals "pollutin'?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

165 "The groomers WHO replaced them!"

RAP!

"Yes, Sister Martha." (Sobs quietly)

Posted by: Pete in Texas at September 16, 2024 11:39 AM (BHrzb)

166 Someone here said it well the other week. For the Left, the inferior must be celebrated, because it's "different" from the "normal." "Normal" must be avoided at all costs, because it makes the inferior feel bad.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 16, 2024 11:18 AM (WPL6O)

They need to normalize the abnormal because that is how you subvert and destroy "existing power structures". They are remaking the world in their own image. Playing God, which always works out well.

Posted by: ... at September 16, 2024 11:39 AM (U/CEs)

167 What cannot go on, cannot go on.

Posted by: torabora at September 16, 2024 11:39 AM (YWCdQ)

168 "146 Well, the left is currently making a concerted effort to kill the leader of their opposition. They've killed members of their perceived opposition too. They've perverted every institution in the country to one degree or another. To their benefit.

Replying in kind is about all that's left at this point.

They are obviously not interested in any sort of dialogue. Or social separation. What's left?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (Q4IgG)"

This is where I need to point out that the progs feel pretty secure with the 1917+ playbook, combined with the cargo cult they have built around western martial superiority. *Of course* they can defeat a bunch of hicks with guns. This is the core of the current North Americal prog strategy: dial up the heat and provoke. If nobody fights back, they win. If someone fights back, they are SURE they will easily kill us all, and thus win.

Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:39 AM (9etX0)

169
Haven’t paid him any attention since he pulled that.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 16, 2024 11:38 AM (eZwyX)

This.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

170 I have an off topic question for those more web savvy than myself. It seems the Dark Web exists to support criminal activity. Why can it not be eliminated?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 16, 2024 11:40 AM (kzHlT)

171 Liberalism is just communism after marketing renamed it. Communism kills everything it touches even if it is called liberalism.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 16, 2024 11:40 AM (17s+e)

172 I was asked to find another church when, in conversation with the minister, I objected to his weekly injection of his personal hate for Republicans and Trump into the homily.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

I would be glad to go, but would not pass up the opportunity to let him know that his viewpoints are in direct contradiction with the bible.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 16, 2024 11:40 AM (GYHsz)

173 If Trump loses but lives our movement rages on.

So trying to kill him doesn't indicate 100% they think he's going to win, but IMO they think he's going to win.

Posted by: ... at September 16, 2024 11:40 AM (U/CEs)

174 "They want us dead. Act accordingly."

I suggest this is why the Trump *ss*ssination attempts are being poo-poo'd away.

They want it to seem as if things like that happen every day because they want things like that to happen every day.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 16, 2024 11:41 AM (musil)

175
I've joked that society keeps running because of 50-year-old white guys, not all of whom are white, 50, or guys, but are people who hold their jobs through sheer competence and experience.

You decide that you are going to use criteria other than competence to hire and promote people, and things go south pretty fast.
Posted by: The ARC of History

Look at what age group(s) make up an organization's volunteers. If they are mostly 50+ years old, that organization is living on borrowed time, because those who are younger are not stepping up to fill the volunteer rolls. Eventually there will not be volunteers at all.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 16, 2024 11:42 AM (dW//N)

176 I have an off topic question for those more web savvy than myself. It seems the Dark Web exists to support criminal activity. Why can it not be eliminated?
Posted by: Xipe Totec

It is run by the cabal that wants to enslave us.

Criminality is just a sideline aspect.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2024 11:42 AM (WXNFJ)

177 Well, the left is currently making a concerted effort to kill the leader of their opposition.

Somebody on X engaged in a bit of dark humor from 2076 - the last 14 Republican Presidential candidates have all been assassinated while running for office.

Meanwhile, the biggest national commemoration of the year is January 6th, where every year our national leaders give speeches about how Our Democracy was nearly overthrown on that day.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2024 11:42 AM (uxCna)

178 It's perfect for running things if your goal is to sit on a mountain of skulls and be the foot inside the boot that forever stamps on the face of humanity.

Y'all gotta stop thinking these people don't understand what they are doing. They do. I have personally sat and listened to the college profs and fruity artists and librarians go on about how we need to kill a few tens of millions for the revolution.
Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:36 AM (9etX0)

Leaderships within left-wing organizations explicitly dedicated to leftism also have the issue that they're a generally self-sabotaging group of people. They mostly won't work, won't fight, and won't exercise self-discipline. Yes they have pretty big evil goals, but most of them lack much will to actually work towards them, this isn't the Bolsheviks.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 16, 2024 11:43 AM (eYoxG)

179 The dude who writes Handwavering Freakoutery (not making this up) on Medium did a pretty interesting CW2 game theory write up a few years ago.

https://tinyurl.com/mjfb7cnt

Unfortunately, I think it's dated to the point where I think the military has shifted Left or effective Left, where they will blindly follow orders.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 16, 2024 11:43 AM (YIxO9)

180 " Someone here said it well the other week. For the Left, the inferior must be celebrated, because it's "different" from the "normal." "Normal" must be avoided at all costs, because it makes the inferior feel bad.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 16, 2024 11:18 AM (WPL6O)"

This is wrong. As soon as they seize full power the freaks all get lined up and shot. Always. Every time. The progs don't believe in anything other than being entitled to rule and in thus being morally justified in employing any and all methods.

The reason they cater to freaks is to use them as cannon fodder during the transition and to create opposition from among their traditionalist opponents. Same reason they elevate people like Floyd as a martyr, he is SUPPOSED to be repugnant to the opposition - so they can run the narrative of "oh look at all those nasty raaaacists!"

You must understand your opponents.

Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:43 AM (9etX0)

181 Meanwhile the Presbyterian church my mom had been attending is about to close permanently. The kids disappeared when young families stopped bringing their children to a church that treats the rainbow flag as sacred. Sunday School obviously went away too, without children to attend it, nor volunteer parents to teach the children. The choir evaporated, with some volunteer singers choosing to leave for churches that were still vital... And, without all the retired and empty-nest men offering their time to the church’s upkeep, the grounds and facilities fell into decline.

This is exactly the situation in my Episcopal church. It has been here since 1774, but I fear it will not survive another 20. All of the maintenance, service, and extra things are done by 29 year olds. My wife heads Christian Education, and you couldn't find someone better for the job at any price, but young families simply don't come to church anymore. A recent poll of the congregation said that bringing more children and young families was the top priority, but they never stop to consider just why they aren't coming any more.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 16, 2024 11:43 AM (xCA6C)

182 Didn't "Fly Like an Eagle" become a Catholic hymn?

If only! Every single Steve Miller Band song is better than "On Eagle's Wings".

Posted by: Pete in Texas at September 16, 2024 11:43 AM (BHrzb)

183 Learning to modify the Obama gas cans so they work the same as the old style gas cans was a "life hack" that disproportionately improved my overall quality of life.
Posted by: My Sweet Lord at September 16, 2024 11:32 AM (zVDqY)

Amazon sells kits to make some of them "old school."
Posted by: Sponge
===

Cheaper on TEMU and you won't go down in the feds big book as a polluter and deviant.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 16, 2024 11:44 AM (17s+e)

184 Same experience w PCUSA. While other churches in my parents’ suburban Middle American town grew, the church my great-grandmother helped found at the turn of the 20th century saw the sanctuary sold to become a restaurant. The congregation, which scattered to other churches over the last 20 years, left the PCUSA behind. No trace left of the PCUSA in the community.

Posted by: EveR at September 16, 2024 11:45 AM (MUpk6)

185 I have an off topic question for those more web savvy than myself. It seems the Dark Web exists to support criminal activity. Why can it not be eliminated?
Posted by: Xipe Totec

-

It's my understanding that it's similar to the "he's using a VPN!!!" silliness. It's nothing particularly nefarious, but "The Dark Web" is just addresses that aren't indexed by search engines.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 11:45 AM (Zfg3y)

186 So trying to kill him doesn't indicate 100% they think he's going to win, but IMO they think he's going to win.

I think that the D's internal polling is catastrophic. If Rasmussen is right, and Trump is running several points ahead in the popular vote, it is a Trump landslide.

It is why they are trying to kill him.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2024 11:45 AM (uxCna)

187 This busty, sun-kissed blonde doesn't like broken things:
http://tiny.cc/eu8mzz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:45 AM (HnUIn)

188 I was a long-time Chicagoan (moved back to America seven years ago) and long-time member of the Art Institute of Chicago. "Docentgate" wasn't a case of kicking out conservatives; most of the docents were well-off, older white women who were liberal to the core. Rather, it was a clear case of racism: they were fired because they were white. Period. The AIC wanted more POCs as docents, but couldn't figure out how to recruit them in the usual way (not many blacks come to the AIC), so they decided to fire the white volunteers and hire blacks. It makes sense for the AIC to want to grow its base membership, particularly in a city that is quickly becoming majority-black; but the leadership went about it in the clumsiest manner imaginable. I have to wonder whether any of the fired docents were red-pilled; frankly, I doubt it.

Posted by: Nemo at September 16, 2024 11:45 AM (S6ArX)

189 Elric - I could write an entire post on this, but I'll try. 2020 fraud was massive. But it was executed using abuse of mail in ballots. Those ballots in the wild allow Democrats to vote for voters who don't vote.

This year that is much harder.

There are less than 50% of those ballots in the wild this year. For example in NC the number of mail in ballots is 30% of 2020.

Also the increased likelihood of low propensity voters to vote this time removes the number of "vote for them" opportunities.

There is a hard limit on fraudulent votes.

Votes = Trump votes - (Dem votes + Dem mail in fraud) <= Total registered voters

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2024 11:46 AM (7LTUX)

190 "No, they won't.

Not even having their kids trooned (if male) or pooned (if female) out by teachers has caused the Badass Warriors to hoist the flag.
Posted by: XTC at September 16, 2024 11:24 AM (UnA8+)"

It's a massive failing of the generations in question to effectively overlook the grooming of their kids. But the same guys ignoring that won't abide someone fucking with their brodozers or work trucks. Even an alcoholic deadbeat guy loves his pickup truck.

Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:46 AM (9etX0)

191 I kept thinking of that Iowahawk quote while reading the post- and then, there it was

Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 16, 2024 11:46 AM (IWZO4)

192 Y'all gotta stop thinking these people don't understand what they are doing. They do. I have personally sat and listened to the college profs and fruity artists and librarians go on about how we need to kill a few tens of millions for the revolution.
Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:36 AM (9etX0)

I believe that the Weather Underground in the 1970s concluded that thirty million Americans would have to be killed.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2024 11:47 AM (uxCna)

193 Just because your a brilliant doctor doesn't mean you know jack sh*t about how to run a hospital.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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True, most doctors that I have known do not possess much in the way of management skills. OTOH, anymore, doctoring/healthcare seems no more than a secondary object.

Posted by: For Profit Hospitals at September 16, 2024 11:47 AM (XeU6L)

194 @124

>>But they don't even have to hack if it was their system, designed to adjust votes, then maybe come up with the extra ballots a day or three later. But as with Maricopa County, they never allowed the ballots to be examined.

As has been noted, all of the electronic systems have something called adjudication, where vote totals can be adjusted.

You simply throw out ballots of one candidate and add ballots for your preferred candidate.

And being that there really is no comprehensive audit of any of this sh*t, it's just trust us, we wouldn't cheat.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 16, 2024 11:47 AM (XV/Pl)

195 Cheaper on TEMU and you won't go down in the feds big book as a polluter and deviant.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 16, 2024 11:44 AM (17s+e)

Not sure I want any part of this:

Temu is an online marketplace operated by the Chinese e-commerce company PDD Holdings. It offers heavily discounted consumer goods which are mostly shipped to consumers directly from China.

I mean, I know everything comes from China anyway, but......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)

196 Actions mean more than public polls. Watch what the candidates do and where they go.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2024 11:47 AM (LkLld)

197 Best gas can I've found?

https://tinyurl.com/2bh9bd6x

Some plumbing fixtures and you can make the cap do pretty much what you want.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 16, 2024 11:47 AM (+qXYP)

198 109 On about the same timeline PCUSA has embraced the Arab cause and espoused straight up Jew hate in the name of "justice."
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The Presbyterian Church USA unified the Southern and Northern churches that split during the Civil War. Never trust Yankees.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 11:48 AM (W3T6M)

199 Elric - I could write an entire post on this, but I'll try. 2020 fraud was massive. But it was executed using abuse of mail in ballots. Those ballots in the wild allow Democrats to vote for voters who don't vote.

This year that is much harder.

There are less than 50% of those ballots in the wild this year. For example in NC the number of mail in ballots is 30% of 2020.

Also the increased likelihood of low propensity voters to vote this time removes the number of "vote for them" opportunities.

There is a hard limit on fraudulent votes.

Votes = Trump votes - (Dem votes + Dem mail in fraud)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2024 11:46 AM (7LTUX)
_______

As they say, "from your lips to God's ears . . . ."

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 16, 2024 11:48 AM (iFTx/)

200 This busty, sun-kissed blonde doesn't like broken things:
http://tiny.cc/eu8mzz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:45 AM (HnUIn)

Well, damn. That counts me out.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:48 AM (Zz0t1)

201 The beginning of the end...
Thugs keeping Fanny/Freddy from being audited
Biggest Bank Heist Ever!

Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Hearings 2004
https://tinyurl.com/4vp539wr

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 16, 2024 11:48 AM (9oXIp)

202 I believe that the Weather Underground in the 1970s concluded that thirty million Americans would have to be killed.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

I accept their terms. They are deluding themselves about how the whole thing will go.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2024 11:48 AM (WXNFJ)

203 I believe that the Weather Underground in the 1970s concluded that thirty million Americans would have to be killed.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

I have no issue with 30 million liberals being eliminated.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 16, 2024 11:48 AM (+qXYP)

204 Temu is an online marketplace operated by the Chinese e-commerce company PDD Holdings. It offers heavily discounted consumer goods which are mostly shipped to consumers directly from China.
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Most of their products are shit, though. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 11:49 AM (W3T6M)

205 "Yes they have pretty big evil goals, but most of them lack much will to actually work towards them, this isn't the Bolsheviks.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 16, 2024 11:43 AM (eYoxG)"

2020 riot season rolls around and the DEI people at work are putting out emails explaining why it's ok to burn businesses down, while the board gives people unlimited PTO to go riot. They are also putting out a lot of money and hands-on volunteering going after people's kids. Something thinking this isn't the Bolsheviks wasn't present to watch the violence.

They are aiming for 1917 with better PR.

Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:49 AM (9etX0)

206 Democrats push for 75 basis points rate cut. Doubt it will do much in the next 6 weeks but they’re doing whatever they can to juice the economy and stock market.

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 11:49 AM (jrSa0)

207 http://tiny.cc/eu8mzz

Mooo.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 16, 2024 11:50 AM (rlMfW)

208
Nick Sortor@nicksortor
WOW: Former assistant FBI Director says Ryan Routh made have had INSIDE INFORMATION on Trump’s private schedule
This is a terrifying thought.
Especially given Trump’s golf outing was a “last minute decision.”
Florida must investigate—not the FBI.

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Beginning to feel a lot like Spain 1936.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 16, 2024 11:50 AM (L/fGl)

209 I see efforts from both directions at my educational institution. Of course, I am rooting for common-sense-ism and hopefully doing a good job promoting it.

Posted by: Emmie at September 16, 2024 11:50 AM (X0O8q)

210 206 Democrats push for 75 basis points rate cut. Doubt it will do much in the next 6 weeks but they’re doing whatever they can to juice the economy and stock market.

Progs push ... on a string.

as per normal

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 16, 2024 11:50 AM (s3qiR)

211 Beginning to feel a lot like Spain 1936.

yes

hopefully we are more completist in ridding ourselves of commie scourge than they were

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (s3qiR)

212 so they decided to fire the white volunteers and hire blacks. It makes sense for the AIC to want to grow its base membership, particularly in a city that is quickly becoming majority-black

Except that's not happening. Chicago was 39% black in 1990, and 29% now. There are now more Hispanics than blacks in Chicago.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (uxCna)

213 I think it was KT's Saturday thread that showed Biden is covertly ordering border patrol (?) or others to give illegals registration to vote. Congress has subpoenaed for seeing what sort of "fortifying" is being done, but they get zero response.

It doesn't seem to matter if they don't have real addresses, maybe not even real names, they are bodies that will be counted, signature matching turned "off", and a few million extra ballots will be counted. They need the extra millions since they need to increase their margin of cheat up to 20%, instead of just 10% (or whatever).

And Repub's are either complicit or complacent. The post office will probably be trashing conservative district ballots again ... so many cheaters.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (Cus5s)

214 "The old institutions cannot be salvaged. It’s best to think of them as already dead and gone. Let’s defund them, disregard them, and create new institutions where the void needs to be filled."

Okay, but somehow in the creation of these new institutions, we need to build in, somehow, a DNA that will resist the same infection from happening again and again.

Posted by: Scott1M at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (vtKAA)

215 If your church doesn't have an in-house Creed cover band, laser light show, industrial grade smoke machine, and a cannon to shoot the pastor out onto the stage, do you even go to a church?

Posted by: Non-Denominational Churches at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (25k9m)

216 205 "Yes they have pretty big evil goals, but most of them lack much will to actually work towards them, this isn't the Bolsheviks.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 16, 2024 11:43 AM (eYoxG)"

2020 riot season rolls around and the DEI people at work are putting out emails explaining why it's ok to burn businesses down, while the board gives people unlimited PTO to go riot. They are also putting out a lot of money and hands-on volunteering going after people's kids. Something thinking this isn't the Bolsheviks wasn't present to watch the violence.

They are aiming for 1917 with better PR.
Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:49 AM (9etX0)

The Bolsheviks were the Russian military establishment/aristocracy, not rabble. What we're dealing with is closer to left-anarchism, much less potent in a conflict though more numerous.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (eYoxG)

217 @206

>>Democrats push for 75 basis points rate cut. Doubt it will do much in the next 6 weeks but they’re doing whatever they can to juice the economy and stock market.

I'll tell you this, a bunch of homeowners will refi at a bare minimum, also this could help kickstart the moribund new car market.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (XV/Pl)

218 A’ight mufuggas, over here we got Monets ‘n shit.

Posted by: Diverse Docent at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (FC8SQ)

219 This year that is much harder.

There are less than 50% of those ballots in the wild this year. For example in NC the number of mail in ballots is 30% of 2020.

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Dave, what's your thought on the best approach to voting during the 3+ month voting season? Should people vote early, vote early/mail in, or vote on the day of?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (Zfg3y)

220 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 16, 2024 11:45 AM (HnUIn)

Not into broken things Don't know about that. It looks like the left side of her shirt (I know, "What shirt?') is really stained, She couldn't afford a new one from being a "model"?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (dTTBf)

221 Newsweak is pushing the headline "Electoral College Map Hands Kamala Harris Another State".

Drugs are bad, kids, m'kay...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 16, 2024 11:52 AM (ZANHd)

222 NBC reports!

Billboard Chris
@BillboardChris
NBC is reporting that Ryan Routh is in custody after “Trump golf club incident.”
Rumor is he was out of bounds and did not take a two-stroke penalty.

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Ban golf now!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 16, 2024 11:53 AM (L/fGl)

223 I had a Haagen Daas popsicle this weekend. It was very tiny. Like half of the size of the original. Things are bad. I don't see big business as happy - thus Trump wins.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 11:53 AM (W3T6M)

224 I go to a Southern Baptist church. They have lots of older members. They have revivals, sunday school. Vacation Bible School, childrens chapel, Teen programs, services Sunday morning and again in the evening, services on Wednesday evening, and the preacher follows scripture literally. I feel at home.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 16, 2024 11:53 AM (kzHlT)

225 If you do vote by Mail Drop it off in a liberal part of town. That way it’s guaranteed to be counted.

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 11:53 AM (jrSa0)

226 Should people vote early, vote early/mail in, or vote on the day of?

all of the above!

Posted by: DNC at September 16, 2024 11:53 AM (25k9m)

227 Newsweak is pushing the headline "Electoral College Map Hands Kamala Harris Another State".

Drugs are bad, kids, m'kay...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 16, 2024 11:52 AM (ZANHd)

Newsweek sold for $1.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)

228 It looks like the left side of her shirt (I know, "What shirt?') is really stained

It's a shadow.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 16, 2024 11:53 AM (xCA6C)

229 214 "The old institutions cannot be salvaged. It’s best to think of them as already dead and gone. Let’s defund them, disregard them, and create new institutions where the void needs to be filled."

Okay, but somehow in the creation of these new institutions, we need to build in, somehow, a DNA that will resist the same infection from happening again and again.
Posted by: Scott1M at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (vtKAA)

Immunity has never successfully been done. We might be better off aiming for the institutions to self-destruct quickly and cleanly when they start failing at their role(like a bankruptcy).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 16, 2024 11:54 AM (eYoxG)

230 "There is a hard limit on fraudulent votes.

Votes = Trump votes - (Dem votes + Dem mail in fraud)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2024 11:46 AM (7LTUX)"

You are not wrong, but very few people have ever started a war they think they will lose, despite everyone prior having such a shit track record. There is no limit to human stupidity.

Posted by: somedood at September 16, 2024 11:54 AM (9etX0)

231 Newsweak still owes me an ice age from 1975.

Posted by: I remember at September 16, 2024 11:54 AM (DobEs)

232 >>Democrats push for 75 basis points rate cut. Doubt it will do much in the next 6 weeks but they’re doing whatever they can to juice the economy and stock market.
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So how much does it cost to buy a Yankee imported slave? And can you afford to feed them?

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 11:55 AM (W3T6M)

233 You are not wrong, but very few people have ever started a war they think they will lose

*cough*

Posted by: The Duchy of Grand Fenwick at September 16, 2024 11:55 AM (xCA6C)

234 I'll tell you this, a bunch of homeowners will refi at a bare minimum, also this could help kickstart the moribund new car market.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (XV/Pl)

And start the inflationary cycle again. Woo hoo. Party like it’s 2021.

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 11:55 AM (jrSa0)

235 This is wrong. As soon as they seize full power the freaks all get lined up and shot. Always. Every time

The Soviet Union had "philosophers ships" in 1922, to exile prominent Russian intellectuals who were too well known internationally to simply kill.

One history noted drily that most of the "philosophers" outlived the Soviet secret police escorting them to the ships, since most of the secret police were killed in the purges of the 1930s.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2024 11:55 AM (uxCna)

236 I go to a Southern Baptist church. They have lots of older members. They have revivals, sunday school. Vacation Bible School, childrens chapel, Teen programs, services Sunday morning and again in the evening, services on Wednesday evening, and the preacher follows scripture literally. I feel at home.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

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Yeah, I think "Wednesday night services" is a pretty good indicator of a church. A prayer meeting at some day through the week is another one.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 11:55 AM (Zfg3y)

237 Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 11:19 AM (RKVpM)

100% true, until the laws are enforced and the theft for sacrifices is stopped by jail time and animal cruelty laws. They can adapt just fine when the choice is lay off the voodoo or you can't be on the streets. NYC is now cracking down on the new wave of Haitians, but the NYT calls it "maligning their culture". We have to be firm: adopt our culture and obey our laws or GTFO. Whoever dreamed up diversity over lawful behavior and competence has much to atone for. I believe that applies to much of Newhouse's little article.

Posted by: Enough Bullshit at September 16, 2024 11:56 AM (2NXcZ)

238 @234

>>And start the inflationary cycle again. Woo hoo. Party like it’s 2021.

Pretty much everything is a series of bubbles, the trick is to get out before the bubble pops.

Timing this is what separates the Al Bundy's from the Warren Buffets.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 16, 2024 11:57 AM (XV/Pl)

239 >>> 215 If your church doesn't have an in-house Creed cover band, laser light show, industrial grade smoke machine, and a cannon to shoot the pastor out onto the stage, do you even go to a church?
Posted by: Non-Denominational Churches at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (25k9m)

LMAO

I need to find a place that does this...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 16, 2024 11:57 AM (FnneF)

240 And start the inflationary cycle again. Woo hoo. Party like it’s 2021.
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Its that 70s show all over again. Just as it was planned.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 11:57 AM (W3T6M)

241 TIME
@TIME
The suspect arrested in relation to the shooting at Trump’s golf course in Florida on Sunday has been identified as Ryan Routh—a 58-year-old with unclear political ideology, a criminal record, and a history of praising Iran and supporting Ukraine

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Probably an anti-abortion activist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 16, 2024 11:57 AM (L/fGl)

242 I'll tell you this, a bunch of homeowners will refi at a bare minimum, also this could help kickstart the moribund new car market.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

The note will still be at six percent and the sticker will be north of 35K. I can't imagine the average American being able to buy a car these days.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 16, 2024 11:57 AM (GYHsz)

243 Robbie - vote early. I personally think in person is best. That is how I will vote.

It has two effects :

1) clears the polling locations for lower propensity voters on election day to reduce the number of "Maricopa voting machine problems"

2) The number of partisan votes are published while it is going on. Since this is how Democrats vote, high GOP numbers set the narrative that counting early votes at 3AM will not erase Trump's lead.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2024 11:57 AM (7LTUX)

244
I don't contend that Trump is behind Harris or will lose the election, but do think that he will not be allowed to take office, and that by fraud or criminal act be stopped by the left who will want you to acknowledge that they are doing it to humble and humiliate you. Openly.

Posted by: Auspex at September 16, 2024 11:57 AM (j4U/Z)

245
Had half a dozen big fat Canada geese in my backyard this morning making a racket so I went out and told them that Haitians are coming. They casually strolled away while leaving a trail of poop.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 11:57 AM (RKVpM)

246 207 http://tiny.cc/eu8mzz

Mooo.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 16, 2024 11:50 AM (rlMfW)

Got milk?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 16, 2024 11:58 AM (xcxpd)

247 215 If your church doesn't have an in-house Creed cover band, laser light show, industrial grade smoke machine, and a cannon to shoot the pastor out onto the stage, do you even go to a church?
Posted by: Non-Denominational Churches at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (25k9m)

Pastor parachutes onto the stage, and after the disastrous bible cannon incident, they switched to t-shirt cannons.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at September 16, 2024 11:58 AM (VGRuw)

248 Okay, but somehow in the creation of these new institutions, we need to build in, somehow, a DNA that will resist the same infection from happening again and again.
Posted by: Scott1M at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (vtKAA)

It might be best to build them with names that serve as liberal repellants.

Posted by: Enough Bullshit at September 16, 2024 11:58 AM (2NXcZ)

249 What we need is an early 80s high interest rate environment to crush inflation. It will cause pain. But we need that short term pain for long term
Gain. The early 80s short term pain unleaded 25 years of prosperity.

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 11:58 AM (jrSa0)

250 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2024 11:58 AM (JxbyS)

251 Okay, but somehow in the creation of these new institutions, we need to build in, somehow, a DNA that will resist the same infection from happening again and again.
Posted by: Scott1M at September 16, 2024 11:51 AM (vtKAA)

There is no such thing as a system that cannot be used against itself. That is what the Left leverages every time.

You are dealing with subversives and the point of subversives is that they can subvert *anything*. All you have to have is a willingness to deceive and you are 75% there.

Posted by: ... at September 16, 2024 11:58 AM (U/CEs)

252 241 TIME
@TIME
The suspect arrested in relation to the shooting at Trump’s golf course in Florida on Sunday has been identified as Ryan Routh—a 58-year-old with unclear political ideology, a criminal record, and a history of praising Iran and supporting Ukraine

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Probably an anti-abortion activist.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 16, 2024 11:57 AM (L/fGl)

=======

And no, he never voted for Trump.

He didn't vote in 2016. He voted early in 2012. He voted in the Democrat primary in HI in 2024. He didn't vote in between.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 16, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

253 @TIME
The suspect arrested in relation to the shooting at Trump’s golf course in Florida on Sunday has been identified as Ryan Routh—a 58-year-old with unclear political ideology, a criminal record, and a history of praising Iran and supporting Ukraine

Unclear political ideology?

Blow it out your ass. He has a f*cking Biden/Harris sticker on his work truck you dipshits and has PLENTY of online presence to determine his "political ideology" you hacks.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 11:58 AM (Zz0t1)

254 232 >>Democrats push for 75 basis points rate cut. Doubt it will do much in the next 6 weeks but they’re doing whatever they can to juice the economy and stock market.
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25% Cut - Fed Politically neutral

50% Cut - Fed showing political bias towards Dems

75% Cut - Fed statement "Trump is a threat to Democracy and must be stopped."

Posted by: WisRich at September 16, 2024 11:59 AM (Qgr0I)

255 @242

>>The note will still be at six percent and the sticker will be north of 35K. I can't imagine the average American being able to buy a car these days.

At some point you have to buy a car, some manufacturers are offering good incentives and with an interest rate reduction, something that was impossible becomes slightly more possible.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 16, 2024 11:59 AM (XV/Pl)

256 >>The suspect arrested in relation to the shooting at Trump’s golf course in Florida on Sunday has been identified as Ryan Routh—a 58-year-old with unclear political ideology, a criminal record, and a history of praising Iran and supporting Ukraine

The Biden/Harris bumper sticker on his truck might be a clue.

The lack of calls by leftists to ban assault weapons is deafening today.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2024 11:59 AM (LkLld)

257 I think people should calm down about polls. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Harris bump following the debate, mostly caused by sample bias. This happened in 2012 after the first debate. If that happens, check back on the polls in a week.

Posted by: mikeybates at September 16, 2024 12:00 PM (/4qWm)

258 The note will still be at six percent and the sticker will be north of 35K. I can't imagine the average American being able to buy a car these days.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 16, 2024 11:57 AM (GYHsz)

35? Try more like 50. That’s about the average cost of a new vehicle today.

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 12:00 PM (jrSa0)

259 >>> 237 Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 11:19 AM (RKVpM)

100% true, until the laws are enforced and the theft for sacrifices is stopped by jail time and animal cruelty laws. They can adapt just fine when the choice is lay off the voodoo or you can't be on the streets. NYC is now cracking down on the new wave of Haitians, but the NYT calls it "maligning their culture". We have to be firm: adopt our culture and obey our laws or GTFO. Whoever dreamed up diversity over lawful behavior and competence has much to atone for. I believe that applies to much of Newhouse's little article.
Posted by: Enough Bullshit at September 16, 2024 11:56 AM (2NXcZ)

We *used* to do this, rather harshly in fact, and then we started listening to retards blathering about 'racism'.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 16, 2024 12:01 PM (FnneF)

260 I go to a Southern Baptist church. They have lots of older members. They have revivals, sunday school. Vacation Bible School, childrens chapel, Teen programs, services Sunday morning and again in the evening, services on Wednesday evening, and the preacher follows scripture literally. I feel at home.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

Find a Cowboy Church.
Southern Baptist. Still steeped in the old ways.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 16, 2024 12:01 PM (+qXYP)

261 Robbie - vote early. I personally think in person is best. That is how I will vote.

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Thanks, and thanks for your efforts regarding the dirty details of all of it.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 12:01 PM (Zfg3y)

262 We might be better off aiming for the institutions to self-destruct quickly and cleanly when they start failing at their role(like a bankruptcy).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 16, 2024 11:54 AM (eYoxG)

*****

This is capitalism’s greatest strength, imho: that failed enterprises get destroyed and replaced by new upstarts. Sclerotic institutions are a major problem in industrial societies, and as we’ve seen time and again, government institutions or those without sufficient competition and possibility of failure are incapable of reform.

Unfortunately, big business and big government merged during the SCOAMF’s first term, “too big to fail” and Obamacare being two examples.

Posted by: Diverse Docent at September 16, 2024 12:01 PM (FC8SQ)

263 Routh ran a political discussion forum.

He lauded 4 HI Democrats as the time of political leaders we should have.

So he isn't just leftwing he is far, far leftwing.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 12:01 PM (oZhjI)

264 >I think tens of millions of votes were fraudulent. Maybe you think I'm nuts? Well: In GA alone, over 1.5 million ballots were blatantly and obviously illegal and almost certainly phony. If they can do that basically in one blue city in a mostly red state, what do you think they can do elsewhere??
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (iFTx/)

Academic Agent on youtube thinks that 15M votes for Biden were fortified and 15M votes for Trump were disappeared.

John Fund wrote a book "If it isn't close, they can't cheat" in ?2012? and the title always bothered me.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 16, 2024 12:01 PM (cf/0E)

265 At some point you have to buy a car,

—

Doesn’t have to be a new one.

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 12:01 PM (jrSa0)

266 I don't contend that Trump is behind Harris or will lose the election, but do think that he will not be allowed to take office

Again, that's going to be difficult to enforce nationwide - the central government doesn't control the cops, and the central government doesn't control a chunk of the military.

I do think that red state governors need to review their security arrangements - there may well be a Federal effort to arrest them in the wake of the election.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2024 12:01 PM (uxCna)

267 "Democrats push for 75 basis points rate cut. Doubt it will do much in the next 6 weeks but they’re doing whatever they can to juice the economy and stock market."

DOW made a new high this morning, SnP and Nasdaq are within about 1% ... but it does seem things are slowing, it just doesn't matter to stocks. Not sure if they care about markets if they lower, but many people think the economy is fine because their stocks keep making them richer.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 16, 2024 12:02 PM (Cus5s)

268 If only! Every single Steve Miller Band song is better than "On Eagle's Wings".
Posted by: Pete in Texas at September 16, 2024

***
"Abracadabra" has entered the chat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 16, 2024 12:02 PM (J2vNu)

269 The best time for Haiti was when the US Marines ran Haiti. Seems time for a re-do.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 12:02 PM (W3T6M)

270 263 Routh ran a political discussion forum.

He lauded 4 HI Democrats as the time of political leaders we should have.

So he isn't just leftwing he is far, far leftwing.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 12:01 PM (oZhjI)

=======

But he said once, in a now deleted post, that he voted for Trump!

He's in the heartbeat of the Republican Party!

He lives in Hawaii! He has a Biden/Harris sticker on his car! He loves HI politicians!

It's really Trump's fault for not cooling the rhetoric and supporting Democracy in Ukraine enough.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 16, 2024 12:03 PM (GBKbO)

271 I also vote on Election Day in person. I voted early once because I knew I’d be out of town on ED. I’ve never voted by mail. I do not trust the post office to deliver my ballot.

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 12:03 PM (jrSa0)

272 @TIME
The suspect arrested in relation to the shooting at Trump’s golf course in Florida on Sunday has been identified as Ryan Routh—a 58-year-old with unclear political ideology, a criminal record, and a history of praising Iran and supporting Ukraine

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hahahaha

He literally has a Harris bumpersticker on his car.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 12:03 PM (Zfg3y)

273 264 >I think tens of millions of votes were fraudulent. Maybe you think I'm nuts? Well: In GA alone, over 1.5 million ballots were blatantly and obviously illegal and almost certainly phony. If they can do that basically in one blue city in a mostly red state, what do you think they can do elsewhere??
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (iFTx/)

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1.7 million, not 1.5.

1.7 million ballots don't have images. Precincts could not hand over 1.7 million images that they were required BY LAW to maintain. They broke laws to create 1.7 million votes in one swing state.

But yeah, we're a 50/50 nation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 16, 2024 12:04 PM (GBKbO)

274 Florida may have minimum mandatory sentencing for Captain Zero here and charge this guy with different crimes.
The AP reported:

Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, faces charges of possessing a firearm despite being a convicted felon and possessing a firearm with an obliterated serial number. Additional and more serious charges are possible as the investigation continues and prosecutors seek an indictment from a grand jury

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 16, 2024 12:05 PM (9oXIp)

275 At some point all the hiring based on diversity, equity, gender, gayness and political loyalty instead of qualifications will overwhelm those hired based on qualification who can no longer carry the load and things start to break down. We are at that point or have been already for some time and it is showing up everywhere.

Posted by: Ripley at September 16, 2024 12:05 PM (GUOwU)

276
It's really Trump's fault for not cooling the rhetoric and supporting Democracy in Ukraine enough.

On a side note, the Uke provinces that are currently being fought over had a vote.

The "leave Ukraine" side won.

The left claims that election was fraudulent because...get this...they didn't do enough to make sure people weren't voting multiple times in different locations or validate that the voters were eligible to vote to begin with

But hey...that's sacred democracy isn't it? They voted to leave - maybe its a bad choice but...they voted for it.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2024 12:05 PM (oZhjI)

277 274 Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, faces charges of possessing a firearm despite being a convicted felon and possessing a firearm with an obliterated serial number. Additional and more serious charges are possible as the investigation continues and prosecutors seek an indictment from a grand jury
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 16, 2024 12:05 PM (9oXIp)

========

He shaved off the serial number?

I'm convinced. He's a fed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 16, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

278
hahahaha

He literally has a Harris bumpersticker on his car.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 12:03 PM (Zfg3y)

You're a bad person for thinking journalists should do the work of journalism.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 12:05 PM (Zz0t1)

279
The best time for Haiti was when the US Marines ran Haiti. Seems time for a re-do.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 12:02 PM

I have a distinct preference for wars that don't involve nuclear super powers. A think a few strategically placed cruise missiles and the Haitians would quickly come to terms.

The Russians? Not so much.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 16, 2024 12:06 PM (RKVpM)

280 I do think that red state governors need to review their security arrangements - there may well be a Federal effort to arrest them in the wake of the election.

And Trump needs to be in Florida, surrounded by Florida state police, on Election Day and the days following the election.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2024 12:06 PM (uxCna)

281 "Academic Agent on youtube thinks that 15M votes for Biden were fortified and 15M votes for Trump were disappeared."

There were supposedly "analytics" that "proved" there was that level of cheat. That may be one of the rabbit holes Sydney Powell and that Byrne guy tried to go down. They got stomped on hard, but imo, it is not because they were wrong, probably because they were right.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 16, 2024 12:06 PM (Cus5s)

282
He shaved off the serial number?

I'm convinced. He's a fed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 16, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

They didn't want it tied back to the Owebama "fast and furious" op.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)

283 Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, faces charges of possessing a firearm despite being a convicted felon and possessing a firearm with an obliterated serial number. Additional and more serious charges are possible as the investigation continues and prosecutors seek an indictment from a grand jury
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It!

Is he still alive?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 16, 2024 12:06 PM (v6JzV)

284 Expecting updates from the 2nd assassination attempt

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2024 12:07 PM (JxbyS)

285 We *used* to do this, rather harshly in fact, and then we started listening to retards blathering about 'racism'.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 16, 2024 12:01 PM (FnneF)

And we need to go back to it. No more multiculturalism beyond spicy food and music. No calls to "kill the infidel", no animal sacrifice, and no, no, zero, free money to migrants. In fact enforce the immigration laws, they're not literally broken, it's just that the left is doing the lawbreaking. And should Trump be inaugurated, it's absolutely necessary that the people who took the oath to enforce laws that they broke, be punished as severely as possible. And "our side" will not have to create new laws to do it.

Posted by: Enough Bullshit at September 16, 2024 12:07 PM (2NXcZ)

286 @265

>>Doesn’t have to be a new one.

True, you're talking to a guy who's main driver is a 20 year old pickup, but there are a great many people who don't want to deal with a used car and all that entails.

Also interest rates are typically lower for new cars, although insurance rates are typically higher, so this might be a wash.

Generally speaking, car prices, like much everything else are not going to be coming down anytime soon.

So now may be your best opportunity to pick something up if your so inclined.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 16, 2024 12:07 PM (XV/Pl)

287 I’m 2018, the average cost of a new vehicle was $37,000. Today it’s $48,000.

No big deal just a 28% increase. Everyone’s income is up 28% from 2018 right? Riiiiight?

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 12:07 PM (jrSa0)

288 Noodus ace

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 16, 2024 12:08 PM (J2vNu)

289 They broke laws to create 1.7 million votes in one swing state.
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And they got two, two US Senators for the Dems. Warnock and Osoff. Coincidence? BTW, Osoff got the six year ticket - Warnock got the two year ticket. White Privilege all over the place.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 16, 2024 12:08 PM (W3T6M)

290 Is he still alive?

For the moment.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2024 12:08 PM (uxCna)

291 Ryan was taken alive and quite compliant when taken

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2024 12:08 PM (JxbyS)

292 "Academic Agent on youtube thinks that 15M votes for Biden were fortified and 15M votes for Trump were disappeared."

I miss the guy that always said they only manufactured a couple thousand ballots in a few states.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 16, 2024 12:08 PM (Zz0t1)

293 Trump shooter 2.0

Dave Aronberg, the state attorney for Palm Beach, says it’s going to be "tough to charge" Trump's second attempted assassin with a "charge against Trump":

"You could charge someone with various crimes, perhaps an attempted murder, without having a shot fired. If you've gone through the planning and have, you know, done something substantial to effectuate that. So you don't have to have a shot fired. But because the former president was so far away, 305 hundred yards away on a different hole, I think it's going to be tough to charge him with the crime against."

"Much easier to charge him with a crime against a Secret service agent who apparently saw the rifle pointed at him. That's the key witness here. And that would be perhaps the most serious charge."

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 16, 2024 12:08 PM (9oXIp)

294 Sweet spot is a 2-3 year old car still under warranty. It’s taken the big depreciation hit already and is still basically a new car.

Posted by: News Update at September 16, 2024 12:09 PM (jrSa0)

295 I'm convinced. He's a fed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 16, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

Of course he is. How else would he truly be in Ukraine helping with their Foreign Legion? That op, from what I read, also included one of the loyal to Ukraine Vindman gang.

Posted by: Enough Bullshit at September 16, 2024 12:09 PM (2NXcZ)

296 202 I accept their terms. They are deluding themselves about how the whole thing will go.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 16, 2024 11:48 AM (WXNFJ)

To be fair, they saw how well the slaughter went in other countries and keep forgetting that we aren't giving up our firearms.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 16, 2024 12:09 PM (OPGS/)

297 They're eating the dogs
Whoa, whoa, wa-whoa
They're eating the cats
Meow, meow, ma-mow
Of the people who live there

Posted by: Earworm at September 16, 2024 12:09 PM (DobEs)

298 >>But hey...that's sacred democracy isn't it? They voted to leave - maybe its a bad choice but...they voted for it.

The same regions also voted to leave Ukraine in 2014, right after we ran a color revolution in Ukraine and replaced a duly elected president favorable to Russia with a western puppet.

Then Ukraine went to war against the region killing thousands of men, women and children. Not mentioned much these days.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2024 12:10 PM (LkLld)

299 I think tens of millions of votes were fraudulent. Maybe you think I'm nuts? Well: In GA alone, over 1.5 million ballots were blatantly and obviously illegal and almost certainly phony.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 16, 2024 11:35 AM (iFTx/)

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1.7 million, not 1.5.

1.7 million ballots don't have images. Precincts could not hand over 1.7 million images that they were required BY LAW to maintain. They broke laws to create 1.7 million votes in one swing state.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 16, 2024 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
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Yes. I used "over" 1.5M to be on the safe side. Maybe some of those 1.7M weren't fraudulent. But regardless of the number, it's a HUGE amount generated basically from one blue city in a red state. And not only did nobody stop them, Rudy Giuliani got sued and bankrupted for daring to even say there was fraud in GA.

So I believe there is no limit whatsoever to the margin of cheating. If they can't do it with mail-in ballots this time, they'll do it some other way. I'm 100% convinced they can manipulate the votes at the digital level and change Trump votes to Harris votes.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 16, 2024 12:11 PM (iFTx/)

300 299 Yes. I used "over" 1.5M to be on the safe side. Maybe some of those 1.7M weren't fraudulent. But regardless of the number, it's a HUGE amount generated basically from one blue city in a red state. And not only did nobody stop them, Rudy Giuliani got sued and bankrupted for daring to even say there was fraud in GA.

So I believe there is no limit whatsoever to the margin of cheating. If they can't do it with mail-in ballots this time, they'll do it some other way. I'm 100% convinced they can manipulate the votes at the digital level and change Trump votes to Harris votes.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 16, 2024 12:11 PM (iFTx/)

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The limit is how much the law enforcement in the state is willing to tolerate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 16, 2024 12:12 PM (GBKbO)

301
Then Ukraine went to war against the region killing thousands of men, women and children. Not mentioned much these days.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2024 12:10 PM (LkLld)

And it needs to be shouted from rooftops. Plus Zelensky ran on a platform of reconciliation with the Russian speakers, then took money for escalate the conflict.

Posted by: Enough Bullshit at September 16, 2024 12:12 PM (2NXcZ)

302 I'm convinced. He's a fed.
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Of course he is. How else would he truly be in Ukraine helping with their Foreign Legion? That op, from what I read, also included one of the loyal to Ukraine Vindman gang.

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He knew about an impromptu golf game at a specific club and time.

Of course he is.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 12:12 PM (Zfg3y)

303 People should have gotten the hint when Harry Reid had a special 'peoples' entrance built to the Senate building because, as he said, 'you can smell them, they stink".
They been showing us what they think of us for a long time.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 16, 2024 12:13 PM (6TYi0)

304 Another alarming golf incident.

https://is.gd/PoIFFs

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 16, 2024 12:13 PM (L/fGl)

305
He knew about an impromptu golf game at a specific club and time.

Of course he is.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women deserve to be told the truth at September 16, 2024 12:12 PM (Zfg3y)

Yep, the SS passed the info to the DHS people who activated Routh.

Posted by: Enough Bullshit at September 16, 2024 12:13 PM (2NXcZ)

306 "Abracadabra" has entered the chat.

Careful. It’ll reach out and grab ya.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 16, 2024 12:15 PM (olroh)

307 =======

The limit is how much the law enforcement in the state is willing to tolerate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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and that limit is determined by how much the *locals will tolerate

*it may be big local money

Posted by: Braenyard at September 16, 2024 12:16 PM (6TYi0)

308 -
He knew about an impromptu golf game at a specific club and time.

Of course he is.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -
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There is a conspirator in Trump's security detail.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 16, 2024 12:18 PM (6TYi0)

309 Harris is willing to have her political opponents assass*nated to keep the border open.

Posted by: Oglebay at September 16, 2024 12:23 PM (7fVdQ)

310 "On a more personal level, I grew up with the Presbyterian church (PCUSA) that my family attended playing a prominent role. In the 1970s and early ‘80s, much of my social life revolved around that church. The adult role models who helped shape my values were very active in it, and I observed retirees dedicating themselves to the church, both financially and with their time. "

Boy, that hit me in the feels, for I am the same as you. I was a Presby all through my childhood, wonderful times, active in the Choirs and volunteer work, and in the Boy Scouts where we had a local den there. Now, I don't recognize the church I was brought up on. My aunt (who died today, rest her soul) eventually left the PCUSA to become a 7th Day Adventist, and towards the end of her life, even that was starting to erode a bit.

Today is just a depressing day.

Posted by: cheshirecat at September 16, 2024 12:29 PM (TwA+r)

311 You get away from the blue cities. You find a suburban / rural area with all or most of the amenities you need. And today, such amenities are practically everywhere. You seek out people like you and make new friends - many of whom will be blue city refugees like you. You settle in to a much happier life.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 16, 2024 12:34 PM (/9rkH)

312 I know I'm breaking a taboo to comment after the thread has moved from the top of the page. BUT I wonder if the Admission to the Art Institute of Chicago still says 'suggested admission fee'.? When I visited we always paid 1¢ for our admission fee. They had to let us in because in their trust they cannot deny entry to any person no matter what fee they pay.

Posted by: Cate at September 16, 2024 12:35 PM (o8Tcq)

313 I know this is already willowed, but just wanted to say this post really hits home for me as well. I absolutely agree that the most important political divide today is between those who believe our institutions are broken, and those who believe they can be reformed and/or should be preserved.

And I have had the same experience with the ELCA. I can't do it anymore. The new ELCA church I tried to join promptly focused on coming up with a land acknowledgement because of all the bad things that happened to the natives here (after they slaughtered a bunch of women and children settlers, but nobody likes it when I bring that up - see Tim Walz' idiocy on the Indian Wars). So now we will probably go low church conservative. I don't like rock bands in dressed up office space, but at least I can get through their faith statement without rolling my eyes or worse. Seems like a small sacrifice if it helps my kids get to know Jesus - without a communist interlocutor.

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at September 16, 2024 12:37 PM (5C4od)

314 If you are so inclined, you find a decent doctrinally solid conservative church.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 16, 2024 12:38 PM (/9rkH)

315 Try the LCMC.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 16, 2024 12:39 PM (/9rkH)

316 Excellent Morning Rant

I think J.J. had referenced Alana Newhouse's January 14, 2021, piece, 'Everything Is Broken' And how to fix it,' in The Morning Report sometime ago. Newhouse's brave & positive piece struck with me.

"It took me a while, but I eventually figured out what he meant. Sometimes the task of rebuilding—of accepting what has been broken and making things anew—is so daunting that it can almost feel easier to believe it can’t be done.

But it can."
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In the 2nd piece, referenced above, 'Brokenism, The real debate today isn’t between the left and right. It’s between those invested in our current institutions, and those who want to build anew' you've (Buck) made it even more personal and relatable.

And as Newhouse ended it, "Once you stop spending your time being outraged, you’ll realize how much energy you have for whatever work you want to do. Leave. Stay. Build something new; invest in current institutions to see if they can be made better. Think bravely and creatively about what America needs ..."

Perfect.

Thanks, Buck.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 16, 2024 12:40 PM (NFX2v)

317 "At some point you have to buy a car,

—

Doesn’t have to be a new one. "

Frankly, even used cars are climbing in price. Unless you total the car, you are better off just maintaining it. Even if you have to replace a motor, $5000 is cheaper than paying $15000 for a used car or $40000 for a new one.

Posted by: cheshirecat at September 16, 2024 01:00 PM (TwA+r)

318 My Dad always said he prefered going to a Presbyterian church ... he said "They don't argue about politics or religion" ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at September 16, 2024 01:32 PM (DBAaD)

319 Sometime back in the aughts iirc there were some articles written about how Stalin, now acceptable as evil, was actually an arch conservative and so basically closer to the Right than the Left.

Close to the first postwar Great Propaganda Effort was the concerted work to make Hitler a "far rightist" because no-one liked Nazis and then they could call conservatives Nazis. Hitler and Stalin were Coke and Pepsi, it's just that the west deemed Nazis more.dangerous than Russians so.helped Russians pound Nazis. If they had deemed Russians more dangerous today Stalin would be Hitler and Hitler Stalin in orthodox thinking

Posted by: azjaeger at September 16, 2024 02:25 PM (3/XaG)

320 COMMIES+NAZIS+SOCIALISTS=LIBERALS

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at September 16, 2024 04:14 PM (wGqjj)

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