"Brokenism:" The Main Political Battle of Our Time

Alana Newhouse at Tablet wrote in 2022 that the critical issue of our age is not between the left and right per se: It's between those that recognize our institutions are corrupt and hopelessly broken, and those who continue insisting, in the face of all evidence, that everything's fine and Our Precious Institutions have never been better. They just need "preserving" and "protecting" from people who... criticize them.

This reminds me of Mollie Hemingway's observation from around 2017. She said she wanted to do a show called What Time It Is. Not "What time is it?" but What Time It Is, as in, "Do you know what time it is? This is The Time It Is. Are you one of the few who realizes we are much closer to the end of things than the middle?"

The entire rift in the Republican Party was between those who know What Time It Is and those who, like Soyjack Impersonator Seth Mandel, think that everything's fine and the entire 2000s-to-present cycle of Invading the World then Inviting the World is going just great, it's so great to have alien cultures filling our cities with the vibrancy (often blood red) of their devastated shithole homelands.

It goes without saying that all of the people swearing that the institutions are functioning perfectly are directly or indirectly paid by those institutions. They are either employees of the academy, the medical establishment, the government, the Military-Industrial Complex, the Government-Censorship Complex, the propaganda and disinformation mills who repulsively call themselves our "press," or they're throne-sniffing neocon Gollums paid by billionaires to prop up those institutions.

This is why, at this moment, it's so easy for sane conservatives to agree with sane lefties like Jimmy Dore, James Lindsey, or Russell Brand: We do not agree with those people on what the solutions are, but we are all agreed, firmly, that things are hopelessly broken.

It's also why these lefties support Trump to one degree of another: Even if they don't like his policies, they appreciate that he's done what a thousand communist theorists and agitators couldn't do: he finally convinced the masses that the establishment was greedy, selfish, and above all else, incompetent to the core.

Meanwhile, the establishment-suckers of both left and (pseudo-)right are in Fanatic Suicide Pact to defend the rotten institutions upon which they depend for their unnecessary sustenance.

A bit belated, but here is some of Alana Newhouse's essay from 2022.

At one point last year, Ryan [a correspondent] said something that struck a nerve. "I don't know what I identify as these days, because everything has gotten so scrambled," he noted. "I'm not a Democrat or a Republican, I don't even think I could define myself narrowly as either a liberal or a conservative anymore. The one thing I know that I fundamentally do believe is the premise of your piece, that the dominant institutions of American life--in education, in the arts, in politics--are either totally broken or so weak or corrupt that they're becoming irrelevant. In a way, the only thing I know that I believe in is ... brokenness."
Ryan went on to explain that, when he gets into political debates with friends and acquaintances these days, those on the "other side" aren't all liberals or all conservatives or in fact all from any other previously recognizable camp. Instead, they are the people in his life who, regardless of how they vote or otherwise affiliate, remain invested in the institutions and political ideologies that now leave Ryan cold.
Many of them acknowledge that there are problems, even serious ones, with universities, newspapers, nonprofits, both political parties, what have you, but they see these as normal, fixable challenges, not signs of fundamental brokenness. To them, the impulse to consign weighty institutions to the dustbin of history feels impulsive and irresponsible--like arson. To Ryan, staying committed to decrepit structures, and insisting to others that they are fundamentally safe when they're clearly not, is what feels reckless.
Most Americans don't fall squarely into one of these two camps. Around 40% don't even vote. But among the people who do engage in debates about this country's future, the ones doing it most compellingly are not those still stuck in the battle between "Democrats" and "Republicans," or "liberalism" and "conservatism." The most vital debate in America today is between those who believe there is something fundamentally broken in America, and that it's an emergency, and those who do not.

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At its base, brokenism revolves around the idea that institutions and even whole societies can and do decay--sometimes in ways that are obvious, often in ways that are not.
Now, to observe that a critical mass of American society is broken does not mean that America is falling like Rome or descending hopelessly into chaos like Weimar Germany. This country survived a civil war, the failures of Reconstruction, the Industrial Revolution and its destruction of previous ways of life, plus the political violence of the 1960s and the economic shocks of the 1970s--and arguably came out stronger after these crises.
Which is why many people understandably see our current moment as a wave of change that can be ridden successfully--without overblown diagnoses or radical solutions. These are status-quoists, people who are invested in the established institutions of American life, even as they acknowledge that this or that problem around the margins should of course be tackled. Status-quoists believe that any decline in quality one might observe at Yale or The Washington Post or the Food and Drug Administration or the American Federation of Teachers are simply problems of personnel, circumstance, incompetence, or lack of information. Times change, people come and go, status-quoists believe--this outfit screwed up COVID policy, yes, and that place has an antisemitism problem, agreed. But they will learn, reform, and recover, and they need our help to do so. What isn't needed, and is in fact anathema, is any effort to inject more perceived radicalism into an already toxic and polarized American society. The people, ideas, and institutions that led America after the end of the Cold War must continue to guide us through the turbulence ahead. What can broadly be called the "establishment" is not only familiar, status-quoists believe; it is safe, stable, and ultimately enduring.

On the other side are brokenists, people who believe that our current institutions, elites, intellectual and cultural life, and the quality of services that many of us depend on have been hollowed out. To them, the American establishment, rather than being a force of stability, is an obese and corrupted tangle of federal and corporate power threatening to suffocate the entire country. Proof of this decay, they argue, can be seen in the unconventional moves that many people, regardless of how they would describe themselves politically, are making: home-schooling their children to avoid the failures and politicization of many public and private schools; consuming more information from YouTube, Twitter, Substack, and podcasts than from legacy media outlets; and abandoning the restrictions, high costs, and pathologies of the coasts for freer and more affordable pastures in the Southeast and Southwest.
Brokenists come from all points on the political spectrum. They disagree with each other about what kinds of programs, institutions, and culture they want to see prevail in America. What they agree on--what is in fact a more important point of agreement than anything else--is that what used to work is not working for enough people anymore.
In fact, both brokenists and status-quoists are attracting people from what was formerly known as the left and the right. That's how you get left-wing guests on Tucker Carlson, and lifelong members of right-wing royalty making frictionless transitions into mainstream darlings. Marxist thinker Adolph Reed is a brokenist; Cass Sunstein is a status-quoist. Resistance Democrats like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Never Trumpers like Liz Cheney--these people are status-quoists. Bernie Sanders and Elon Musk are brokenists, as are the famously leftist Glenn Greenwald and the famously capitalist Marc Andreessen. When I was in elementary school, our gym teacher used to split us into two teams and then, midway through class, divide each side and swap the halves to make two new teams. That's kind of like what is happening in America today.
And it's not simply that people are switching affiliations while the political parties largely remain the same. Instead, the parties themselves are changing--and in some cases swapping--what they stand for, a reality that observers from what used to be the right and the left are both starting to grapple with.

I know "It's old," but it was new to me, and maybe to you. Read the whole thing if you like.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:20 PM

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Posted by: GF at September 13, 2024 05:22 PM (vsHrX)

2 The divide is no longer right/left, it's sane/insane and freedom/marxism.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 13, 2024 05:24 PM (2UnvF)

3 Happy Friday!

Posted by: Megthered at September 13, 2024 05:24 PM (VihIQ)

4 Called the otters.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 13, 2024 05:25 PM (2UnvF)

5 Brokenists = just those normies looking to locate the Golden Mean

Posted by: kallisto at September 13, 2024 05:25 PM (DWmVE)

6 Prepare the camps for them. Make them kneel.

Sounds like ZOD, haha

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 13, 2024 05:27 PM (NtVYv)

7 Bernie who said a week or so ago that he knew Kamala was lying about rejecting pseudo-Marxism so he wasn't worried about her [aides'] claims???

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 13, 2024 05:29 PM (CEzQx)

8 The Food Pyramid make pyramid-shaped kids.

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 05:29 PM (krQz2)

9 I've said it before, but we're in the middle of a massive realignment and no one really knows how to accurately measure it. Trump broke the GOP, the Dems broke themselves.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 13, 2024 05:29 PM (2UnvF)

10 Brokenists = those normies who realize the Overton Window has shifted all the way to Crazytown, and that A Great American Life as we have known it, is no longer attainable under current NWO Regimists.

Posted by: kallisto at September 13, 2024 05:29 PM (DWmVE)

11 Now, to observe that a critical mass of American society is broken does not mean that America is falling like Rome

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Yeah, hoards of barbarians aren't crossing our borders.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 13, 2024 05:30 PM (L/fGl)

12 It's between those that recognize our institutions are corrupt and hopelessly broken, and those who continue insisting, in the face of all evidence, that everything's fine and Our Precious Institutions have never been better. They just need "preserving" and "protecting" from people who... criticize them.
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Ironically, many of those people also believe that our institutions are fundamentally racist and per Marx need to be utterly destroyed and dismantled ("Defund the Police").

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 05:31 PM (krQz2)

13 Did you call G K Chesterton about this. Seems like something he would be interested in ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 13, 2024 05:31 PM (NtVYv)

14 I have unreasonable boomer optimism that The Republic can be saved.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 13, 2024 05:32 PM (cw9q7)

15 Hopefully (actually Biblically inevitably) a remnant of the sane will survive and rebuild (and the cycle/ hard men/hard times) will reset (and inevitably repeat) as always. Nothing new under the sun, as Solomon noted.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 13, 2024 05:32 PM (fiUiH)

16 We are fundamentally broken, which now that I think of it, was the transformation that Obama predicted/wanted.

And he, and his minions are still presiding over it.

This will not be fixed peacefully, as much as well all wish it could.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 13, 2024 05:32 PM (dbZNM)

17 Pennsylvanians’ mail ballots must have a proper date on their envelopes or they will be rejected, under a decision Friday from the state Supreme Court that could affect thousands of voters this November.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court vacated a Commonwealth Court ruling from Aug. 30 that found the state’s requirement on ballot dating was an unconstitutional violation of voters’ rights.

Posted by: SMOD at September 13, 2024 05:32 PM (oJ8XS)

18 It’s not just American life either, it’s the standard of living that all denizens of Western Civ have enjoyed post WW2 until the Obama election gave them all cover to let their freak flags fly.

Posted by: kallisto at September 13, 2024 05:33 PM (DWmVE)

19 ...as we all wish it could

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 13, 2024 05:33 PM (dbZNM)

20 Say you could go back to 2003 and explain the future to yourself.

Self, in 2024 the democrats are the party of war and Dick Cheney endorsed the dem nominee for president.

Would you believe it?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 13, 2024 05:33 PM (2UnvF)

21 This country really needs a political enema if it's to survive.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2024 05:34 PM (Q4IgG)

22 Trudeau did his best to jab everyone.

Hoping for freedom through jab genocide seems horrible, but I just wanted to be left alone.

And these people were jonesing for the jabs, so here we are....

Posted by: Stateless at September 13, 2024 05:34 PM (jvJvP)

23 All kidding aside. This is a very interesting piece.

The more bureaucracy in the system the worse it will get.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 13, 2024 05:35 PM (NtVYv)

24 There's a lot of Doomerism here about how it doesn't matter if Trump wins 'cause he's not going to be able to fix ALL the problems on Day One.

Often followed by a long list of the overwhelming forces arrayed against him; deep state is always on that list.

And it's just annoying.
1) it helps nothing
2) we already know how powerful they are
3) sometimes just fighting back is enough to win
4) at the very least, his win buys us some breathing room to maybe figure out how to fix ALL the problems
5) you apes want to live forever?!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 13, 2024 05:35 PM (EItv/)

25 This country really needs a political enema if it's to survive.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2024 05:34 PM (Q4IgG)

That's the shits man.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 13, 2024 05:35 PM (NtVYv)

26 Very cruel essay, Ace.

I think anyone who lived through the perpetual crisis of the 70s to the sea change that occurred with Reagan's election will see echoes in the current crisis. Yet Jimmy lives.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2024 05:36 PM (RIvkX)

27 25 This country really needs a political enema if it's to survive.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2024 05:34 PM

True. The country needs a good dump, but they keep popping Imodium and extending it a little longer.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 13, 2024 05:37 PM (+oR7L)

28 Read the whole thing if you like.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:20 PM
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You're not the boss of me!

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 05:37 PM (krQz2)

29 I've said it before, but we're in the middle of a massive realignment

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Smart assery from Kurt Vonnegut from Sirens of Titan if I remember right). Following the death of Jesus Christ, there was a period of readjustment that lasted for approximately one million years.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 13, 2024 05:37 PM (L/fGl)

30 When I was younger, I thought the purpose of government was to keep the bad things out. Now I look at government and I think they are there to keep the bad things in place.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 05:37 PM (SfhV1)

31
If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival.

There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. - W. S. Churchill

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 13, 2024 05:37 PM (cw9q7)

32 Just when you think the Pope may be ok, he just endorsed Kamala.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 13, 2024 05:38 PM (MeG8a)

33 From previous thread:

332 (And to Anonymous Rogue...) Matthew 29:18-20 .... Our job as believers is to tell others about Christ, and I'm pretty bad about it. I'm afraid of offending, and saying it wrong, and the fact is, if I love others in Christ, I don't want them to be eternally separated from God. That is the fate of those who refuse to believe in Jesus Christ as savior. I think refuse is the key word.....

Posted by: Moki at September 13, 2024 05:32 PM (wLjpr)

Moki - if you made the jump to this thread...thank you for your thoughts. I feel same as you - don't want to offend but also want to fulfill the mandate. I reconcile that by trying (and mostly failing) to set a good example and by being willing to talk about my beliefs but I never start the conversation.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at September 13, 2024 05:40 PM (QGaXH)

34 Ruling against date requirement on ballots is voided by Pennsylvania Supreme Court
The decision could affect thousands of mail voters in November’s election.

No ballots with late or no dates. A crushing blow Big Cheat in PA.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 13, 2024 05:40 PM (/U5Yz)

35 Yeah, I see it. Tucker rants about it "America used to be full of nice places... Etc." We are living in Calhoun's Mouse Utopia.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 13, 2024 05:41 PM (wBaIH)

36 Hopefully (actually Biblically inevitably) a remnant of the sane will survive and rebuild (and the cycle/ hard men/hard times) will reset (and inevitably repeat) as always. Nothing new under the sun, as Solomon noted.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 13, 2024 05:32 PM (fiUiH)

Sometimes change can't happen until something is totally broken. It may take the burning times to cleanse the land of the current idiocy, then again, you never know how the revolution will turn out.

Our standard of living is so high that as long as people can play video games all day and eat Cheetos there is not a lot of critical thinking going on.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 13, 2024 05:41 PM (NtVYv)

37 Just when you think the Pope may be ok, he just endorsed Kamala.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 13, 2024 05:38 PM (MeG8a)

Won't change much. Most practicing Catholics understand he's a shitbag.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 13, 2024 05:41 PM (4Med0)

38 The institutions of government have become antithetical to their constitutional purpose. That is, their main purpose for existing, which arguably is they shouldn’t exist at all. Those institutions were originally constructed to assist the administration of government. That is carrying out the will of the executive branch within its constitutional powers and those duties lawfully legislated by Congress. But they have grown into fiefdoms of their own, stealing powers, unconstitutionally, from other branches of government and ultimately the people who own it. In that role they have predictably been separated from the actual will of the people and are unaccountable to no one. It’s why they must ultimately be crushed by Congress sacking up and cutting the funding that has allowed them to grow into these seeming anarchistic bureaucracies.

Our country is in dire straits because the will of the people has been subverted not just by these institutions, but by the cowards or corrupt acolytes who have failed to address their usurpation of our power. Improving our current situation and restoring our democratic republic once again depends on finding men with courage to defeat them.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 13, 2024 05:41 PM (Edo3/)

39 17 Pennsylvanians’ mail ballots must have a proper date on their envelopes or they will be rejected, under a decision Friday from the state Supreme Court that could affect thousands of voters this November.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court vacated a Commonwealth Court ruling from Aug. 30 that found the state’s requirement on ballot dating was an unconstitutional violation of voters’ rights.
Posted by: SMOD at September 13, 2024 05:32 PM (oJ8XS)
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But who will enforce it? In Philadelphia?

I keep returning to the part of Plunkett of Tammany Hall where he expresses dismay at the crooked nature of Philadelphia politics. The really didn't measure up to Tammany standards.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 13, 2024 05:42 PM (1bNHn)

40 Just when you think the Pope may be ok, he just endorsed Kamala.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 13, 2024 05:38 PM (MeG8a)
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I thought he said something ambiguous like vote for the lesser of evils.

From what I've heard from him, I wouldn't expect "restoring Roe v. Wade", which in the courts gave America one of the most unrestrained abortion position in the world, including progressive Europe, would be on his wish list.

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 05:42 PM (krQz2)

41 "Brokenists = those normies who realize the Overton Window has shifted all the way to Crazytown, and that A Great American Life as we have known it, is no longer attainable under current NWO Regimists."

I'm thinking the Overton Window is the general public mindset ... which imo has shifted, but not to Crazytown.

It is those driving the false narratives (NGOs, leftists, commies, globalists) that are pushing Crazytown, but even they are just using that narrative as a tactic to destroy the West.

Or maybe I misunderstand The Overton Window, but in any case, the general population is nowhere close to where The Narrative is trying to drive them.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 13, 2024 05:42 PM (Cus5s)

42 11 Now, to observe that a critical mass of American society is broken does not mean that America is falling like Rome

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Yeah, hoards of barbarians aren't crossing our borders.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 13, 2024 05:30 PM (L/fGl)

Move like Jagger>> falling like Rome
Maroon 5

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at September 13, 2024 05:42 PM (QGaXH)

43 @GrageDustin

I’m told that the GOP is currently vetting “career ending” information on Tim Walz, but would not disclose what the oppo specifically was. 👀 👀 👀

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2024 05:42 PM (LkLld)

44 Just when you think the Pope may be ok, he just endorsed Kamala.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Well, the Pope prays on his knees and Kamala also spends a lot of time on her knees.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 13, 2024 05:43 PM (L/fGl)

45 Improving our current situation and restoring our democratic republic once again depends on finding men with courage to defeat them.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 13, 2024 05:41 PM (Edo3/)

I would suggest that this kind of courage comes from the heart of a moral man. A virtuous man. A man of faith.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 05:43 PM (SfhV1)

46 But who will enforce it? In Philadelphia?

Posted by: Eeyore at September 13, 2024 05:42 PM (1bNHn)
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Exactly. Enforcing it in Philadelphia is racist.

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 05:43 PM (krQz2)

47 An interesting thing about the "Fall of Rome" is that it, too was not a concrete thing, and instant in time though we think as if it were.

Rome was captured by the Goths in 410 and sacked in 455 by the Vandals but neither were the fall. For decades after 410 Rome used the Goths to fight the Vandals in Spain to take back land. The Goths fought with Rome and the Franks to defeat the Huns in France. The Vandals left Spain but took North Africa. All politics still revolved about Rome, for or against.

About 465-470, something broke and the Goths and Franks started acting on their own more. Rome was just in Italy, and soon after a strongman for Rome just up and went home to Alpine France when his older brother died to be heir to the kingdom there. A few coups later and the military boss Odoacer just sent the young emperor off to a castle with a pension because he wasn't even work killing as a rival. It was 476 and he sent the imperial jewels back to East Rome saying they were not needed.

So there is a lot of strength in a nation...until people quit buying into it, then it melts away rapidly. Most of the citizens were still culturally Roman afterward.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 05:43 PM (n7h9X)

48 Bravo!

Thank you for this post. It helps articulate the state of play in most of West.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 13, 2024 05:44 PM (xo0hV)

49 It may be that part of the problem is that people chose for positions are no longer chose on the basis of their ability, but other criteria. When this happens, they will never focus on their tasks since they are not able to do those tasks, and they will never hire the best for subordinate positions because competent subordinates replace incompetent bosses in a well run org.

the world is broken because the people tasked with keeping it whole neither care nor find any profit in doing their jobs.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2024 05:44 PM (D7oie)

50 Schrodinger's cat ate Calhoun's Mouse .
Beat the Haitians to it.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 13, 2024 05:44 PM (8kbS4)

51 43 @GrageDustin

I’m told that the GOP is currently vetting “career ending” information on Tim Walz, but would not disclose what the oppo specifically was. 👀 👀 👀
Posted by: JackStraw

My money's on underage boys being molested in cub scout camp.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 13, 2024 05:44 PM (/U5Yz)

52 Improving our current situation and restoring our democratic republic once again depends on finding men with courage to defeat them.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 13, 2024 05:41 PM (Edo3/)
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You're just fighting against nature unless we go through the hard times that make hard men.

I pray that the Lord will provide such men, though.

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 05:44 PM (krQz2)

53 “i would suggest that this kind of courage comes from the heart of a moral man. A virtuous man. A man of faith.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 05:43 PM (SfhV1)

And you would be 100% correct ma’am. The Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ is all around us. He will instruct us, only if we would listen.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 13, 2024 05:45 PM (Edo3/)

54 The institutions of government have become antithetical to their constitutional purpose. ...
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This is an important point. The Democrats have captured and co-opted most of the erstwhile apolitical, professional civil service. They have made the instrumentalities of the government at the service of only one party.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2024 05:46 PM (RIvkX)

55 20 Say you could go back to 2003 and explain the future to yourself.

Self, in 2024 the democrats are the party of war and Dick Cheney endorsed the dem nominee for president.

Would you believe it?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 13, 2024 05:33 PM (2UnvF)

Did you see the (old) picture of Howard Cosell standing with Bruce Jenner and OJ Simpson captioned 'I've just returned from the future...you're not gonna believe this....'

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at September 13, 2024 05:46 PM (QGaXH)

56 We had a copy of Ed Gillespie's opponent's high school yearbook which had a picture of him in BLACKFACE.

We're not lifting a finger to harm Tim Walz.

Posted by: The GOP at September 13, 2024 05:46 PM (eYKIV)

57 “ I pray that the Lord will provide such men, though.
Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 05:44 PM (krQz2)”

As do I, my friend. There is an old adage that states “hard times produce good men”. I think that applies here. Never lose hope. It’s a long hard road.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 13, 2024 05:46 PM (Edo3/)

58 Last year, if you were told that:

1) Kamala would be the candidate
2) Deep blue gov Walz would be her VP
3) Vance would be Trump's VP
4) Musk, RFK Jr. and Tulsi would endorse Trump
5) Trump would be already be leading, tied, or within the margin in all the swing states in September
6) and cat memes supporting Trump would be popular

You' be giddy with how "in the bag" the win would be.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 13, 2024 05:47 PM (EItv/)

59 Stunning and brave.

Alex Thompson
@AlexThomp
Inbox: Kamala Harris is sitting for a solo TV interview but keeping it to local news.
She’s participating in a taped interview with Brian Taff for Action News 6 ABC, a local station in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The interview will air on the station's 6pm broadcast.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 13, 2024 05:47 PM (L/fGl)

60 Say you could go back to 2003 and explain the future to yourself.

Self, in 2024 the democrats are the party of war and Dick Cheney endorsed the dem nominee for president.

Would you believe it?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 13, 2024 05:33 PM (2UnvF)

Democrats have always been the party of war, they just didn't like us fighting the commies. Cheney always seemed to me to be a merc rather than someone who loved America and the culture even when he was on 'my side'. he wasn't like Reagan and Rush or Lincoln.

So yeah, I could have believed it.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 05:47 PM (n7h9X)

61 “ This is an important point. The Democrats have captured and co-opted most of the erstwhile apolitical, professional civil service. They have made the instrumentalities of the government at the service of only one party.”

They serve but one purpose. To proliferate and consolidate their own power.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 13, 2024 05:48 PM (Edo3/)

62 Shrubs worthless AG Gonzales is voting for Kamala.

Texas should ban the Bush clan from residing in the state.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 13, 2024 05:48 PM (/U5Yz)

63 Yeah, I see it. Tucker rants about it "America used to be full of nice places... Etc." We are living in Calhoun's Mouse Utopia.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 13, 2024 05:41 PM (wBaIH)

Calhoun's mouse Utopia was designed to create the greatest pressure and stress on the mice. There was unlimited water and food, but accessed was bottlenecked to cause stress. The stress was created by "gangs" of mice who controlled the access ways.
If I were a powerful and manipulative f*ck, I would try to recreate this in a place I was trying to conquer.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2024 05:48 PM (D7oie)

64 32 Just when you think the Pope may be ok, he just endorsed Kamala.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 13, 2024 05:38 PM (MeG8a)
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According to Catholic news agency, that's not true. He said the choice is the lesser of two evils:

"In political morality, in general they say that if you don't vote, it's not good, it's bad. You have to vote, and you have to choose the lesser evil," he said.

"What is the lesser evil? That woman, or that man?" he continued, referring to Vice President Kamala Harris and her Republican opponent, former president Donald Trump. "I don't know. Each one, in his or her conscience, must think and do this."

He's bad enough in reality; no need to try to make it worse.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 13, 2024 05:49 PM (1bNHn)

65 32 Just when you think the Pope may be ok, he just endorsed Kamala.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 13, 2024 05:38 PM

The Oprah Pope!

"You get an abortion. And you get an abortion. And everyone gets an abortion!"

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 13, 2024 05:49 PM (HlyYF)

66 This seems topical. This is just coming out right now. I don't know if it's true and a few years ago I would have said this is koo koo bananas stuff but given what we've all seen and the strange, unanswered questions that happened around Benghazi, dumping bin Laden in the ocean, the deaths of Seal Team 5, Obama and now Biden bending over for Iran, let's just say I'm not dismissing it out of hand.

There is supposedly mountains of documents, recordings and video to back all of this up and a member of Congress is working with these people to release all the underlying stuff. We'll see.

But if even half of this is true then holy shit balls. It might also help explain why our government is so incredibly broken and corrupt and why they hate Trump with a white hot rage.

If you have a half hour to spare this is pretty wild.

https://tinyurl.com/4tdkwwh3

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2024 05:50 PM (LkLld)

67 She’s participating in a taped interview with Brian Taff for Action News 6 ABC, a local station in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The interview will air on the station's 6pm broadcast.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 13, 2024 05:47 PM (L/fGl)
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Like oh my god mom you will never believe who your son is interviewing on the teevee tomorrow!
-Brian Taff

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2024 05:51 PM (RIvkX)

68 34 Ruling against date requirement on ballots is voided by Pennsylvania Supreme Court
The decision could affect thousands of mail voters in November’s election.

No ballots with late or no dates. A crushing blow Big Cheat in PA.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 13, 2024 05:40 PM

The Philadelphia police department just received a report from the USPS that 50 official postage meters just went missing!

/s

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 13, 2024 05:51 PM (HlyYF)

69 My money's on underage boys being molested in cub scout camp.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 13, 2024 05:44 PM (/U5Yz)

I’m betting China connection but nothing rules out both.

Posted by: 7man at September 13, 2024 05:51 PM (Gfz8S)

70 65 32 Just when you think the Pope may be ok, he just endorsed Kamala

Yeah, but Biden's been rocking the MAGA gear, so.....

Posted by: Stateless at September 13, 2024 05:51 PM (jvJvP)

71 I would argue that status-quoism is a myth.

It's just a group of people who believe that the people who now hold the reins represent stability and aren't aiming at radical change (which they may be).

When in America has the CDC been a chief institution that we had to swear fealty to?

They want to trans the military. An institution that actually had significant weight in former days.

No, this is a bait-and-switch with the gloss of security to reassure those who want to plunge into security.

Covid was definitely not "status-quo". But I can see that trust in our institutions was kind of part of it--but as I pointed out above it was a new wave of institutions demanding our trust.

People are being duped that they are being swaddled as the boat is tossing on the sea.

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 05:52 PM (krQz2)

72 Take a look at who is announcing they are voting against Trump. They are revealing they’re actually voting against the people and our democratic republic.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 13, 2024 05:52 PM (Edo3/)

73 I refer to the current pope as Lil Papi.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 13, 2024 05:52 PM (wBaIH)

74 Alex Thompson
@AlexThomp
Inbox: Kamala Harris is sitting for a solo TV interview but keeping it to local news.
She’s participating in a taped interview with Brian Taff for Action News 6 ABC, a local station in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The interview will air on the station's 6pm broadcast.
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Oh lord. The guy who's biggest story to date is firemen rescuing a kitten from a tree?
This could go either way:
1) overboard slobbering, topping even "what enchants you the most about being [vice] President?"
2) Accidently asks tough questions and we get classic Kammi. eg, which rapper do you like, or where she explains what the computing cloud is.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 13, 2024 05:53 PM (EItv/)

75 The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania: It is illegal to count undated votes.
...

Pennsylvania DNC: tl/dr

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 05:54 PM (krQz2)

76 “ She’s participating in a taped interview with Brian Taff for Action News 6 ABC, a local station in Philadelphia, ”

No doubt to try and obfuscate the fracking issues. It’s crushing her in PA. So she found a stupid person who won’t press the issue.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 13, 2024 05:54 PM (Edo3/)

77 The premise of the article is probably true to a good portion of the he population.

Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2024 05:55 PM (fwDg9)

78 69 My money's on underage boys being molested in cub scout camp.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 13, 2024 05:44 PM (/U5Yz)

I’m betting China connection but nothing rules out both.
Posted by: 7man at September 13, 2024 05:51 PM (Gfz8S)

Maybe facilitating Chinese molestation of underage boys in Cub Scout camp.....?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at September 13, 2024 05:55 PM (QGaXH)

79 When I was younger, I thought the purpose of government was to keep the bad things out. Now I look at government and I think they are there to keep the bad things in place.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 05:37 PM (SfhV1)

SF writer H. Beam Piper's future histories have a recurring theme that government is in the long term unsustainable, eventually it loses its sense of mission. In his Space Viking, an aristocrat that becomes space raider to chase a man who murdered his wife at his wedding builds a civilization using the raiders, allied with a decadent major planet whos government refuses to rule and is coup-ed out by his enemy working behind the scenes.

The virtue of capitalism is that companies that do so die off and our current government props up its organization that are corrupt, incompetent, evil or both.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 05:56 PM (n7h9X)

80 They want to trans the military. An institution that actually had significant weight in former days.

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 05:52 PM

No male athlete injects himself with estrogen to win a GAME, because every single one understands that it will degrade his athletic performance.

Yet the military is allocating scarce resources to injecting male soldiers with estrogen ... when people's lives are on the line.

This is insane!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 13, 2024 05:56 PM (HlyYF)

81 >>Like oh my god mom you will never believe who your son is interviewing on the teevee tomorrow!
-Brian Taff

Sure she'll believe it. Same guy did a slobbering interview of Obama when his poll numbers were headed south before his re-election race.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2024 05:57 PM (LkLld)

82 Trump is rebranding the R party into a big tent Workingman's party. You can be an Executive or Elon Musk, so long as you have a real job getting things done. Or in their family.

Many who are joining have been disenfranchised by The Borg, the unholy, incestuous alliance of BigGov, Deep State, Media, Academia and co-opted companies. Especially White non-college. Especially many men.

Others like Hispanics and Black men are waking up that they've been getting used.

Trump's growing success is exposing that The Borg has weak popular support and can no longer win a fair election.

Ace misses this because he can't see past Trump being a gavonne from Queens

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 13, 2024 05:57 PM (nFx0I)

83 Spark of the divine.

"Veteran cops were left shaken": Dominican man wanted for murder back home charged with brutal slaying of New York family (he is in the US illegally)

https://is.gd/BkEHsE

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Four dead including a two year old and a four year old.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 13, 2024 05:57 PM (L/fGl)

84 Yet Jimmy lives.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Jimmy Carter is the Dorian Grey picture of our society. We seem great, but become more shrunken, ugly, and evil as the days pass.

Posted by: Justin Pinochet Castreau at September 13, 2024 05:58 PM (l5yVc)

85 74 ...
She’s participating in a taped interview with Brian Taff for Action News 6 ABC, a local station in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The interview will air on the station's 6pm broadcast.
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Oh lord. The guy who's biggest story to date is firemen rescuing a kitten from a tree?
...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 13, 2024 05:53 PM (EItv/)
_______
Be sure to broadcast it in Springfield OH, and tell the Haitians that, in Philly, food grows in trees.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 13, 2024 05:58 PM (1bNHn)

86 Take a look at who is announcing they are voting against Trump. They are revealing they’re actually voting against the people and our democratic republic.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 13, 2024 05:52 PM (Edo3/)

They were traitors before they fled to the enemy camp. They have less power now. When was the last time you heard a reverence to the National Review or the Bulwark aside from a joke and insult?

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 05:58 PM (n7h9X)

87 >>> 32 Just when you think the Pope may be ok, he just endorsed Kamala.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 13, 2024 05:38 PM (MeG8a)

He didn't say that. The daily mall says he did in the title and like normal has something completely different inside.

He said both are anti life because kamala wants to kill the unborn and trump because he wants to stop the child trafficking invasion. Which isn't right or something I agree with but he didn't endorse kamala at all. He went further to say which is the lesser evil the man or the woman?, he doesn't know, use your judgement. That was it.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 13, 2024 05:59 PM (Y6IkP)

88 Be sure to broadcast it in Springfield OH, and tell the Haitians that, in Philly, food grows in trees.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 13, 2024 05:58 PM (1bNHn)

Good thing there is no way this interview can be recorded and saved to be distributed to the national media she now does not trust.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 05:59 PM (n7h9X)

89 Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2024 05:50 PM (LkLld)

A friend of mine used to go to TEA party meetings, he said parents of Seal Team 6 casualties would show up and tell quite a different story than the Official Narrative.

Posted by: kallisto at September 13, 2024 06:00 PM (ZZ+MI)

90 No Democrat Propaganda Ministry official will ask her a real question.

Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2024 06:00 PM (fwDg9)

91 Gonzalez resigned as AG in no small part due to the stink of lawlessness supposedly associated with his own tenure. Him braying about the rule of law is pretty rich. Either because he was a danger to it, or because he of all people should recognize the political nature of charges of lawlessness, depending on how you view the facts (both views are defensible and have some truth to them, in my opinion). Exactly the kind of useless moron one would expect from the Bush admin.

Posted by: dumbasses gonna dumbass at September 13, 2024 06:00 PM (oh8/H)

92 The pope did not endorse Kamala; he said voters have to choose the lesser of teoevils - anti- immigrant vs pro-life bit didn't say ehich to vote gor.
Also the pope said all religions lead to God.

Still unclear if the pope is Catholic

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 13, 2024 06:00 PM (Ydd86)

93 I mean, they changed how we VOTED in 4-8 years.

They made mail boxes the staple of voting they never were when Trump was "threatening the election by removing mail boxes!!!!!"

No, these are people just as tossed as we are, hoping to grip upon any stability as they fall from structure to structure. And the momentum of the Authority is good enough for them.

These are NOT "Our Institutions".

If "Democracy" was a suitable enough synonym for a "Constitutional Republic" why does the NYT trot out another expert saying our Constitution is incompatible with "democracy"?!

They want to PACK the Supreme Court making it more of the super-legislature its inventors said it should NEVER BE!

They want to REMOVE the Electoral College because it's just too robust an idea not not single dynamic for unlimited government (which again is NOT our institution!)

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 06:00 PM (krQz2)

94 He said both are anti life because kamala wants to kill the unborn and trump because he wants to stop the child trafficking invasion. Which isn't right or something I agree with but he didn't endorse kamala at all. He went further to say which is the lesser evil the man or the woman?, he doesn't know, use your judgement. That was it.
Posted by: banana Dream at September 13, 2024 05:59 PM (Y6IkP)

The Pope said he is for child trafficking? That's worse than pro Kamala.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:00 PM (n7h9X)

95 I'm less concerned with the military–industrial complex right now (assuming they don't get us in a war with someone) than the government-NGO complex and the war on our borders.

Posted by: javems at September 13, 2024 06:02 PM (8I4hW)

96 More than 40% of GDP (and that is a low estimate) is spent by either Local, State, or Fed, Government.

You cannot have a free economy when that much of the entire economy is tied to politics.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2024 06:02 PM (xaFKb)

97 Oh lord. The guy who's biggest story to date is firemen rescuing a kitten from a tree?

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Looks tasty!

Posted by: Haitian Guy at September 13, 2024 06:02 PM (krQz2)

98 They want to REMOVE the Electoral College because it's just too robust an idea not not single dynamic for unlimited government (which again is NOT our institution!)
Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 06:00 PM (krQz2)

I think all states should have EC like methods to prevent the high pop counties from over-dominating rural areas. The reasoning in the Constitution for big state small state is the same. Cities crush out their own rural areas that keep them alive.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:03 PM (n7h9X)

99 >>A friend of mine used to go to TEA party meetings, he said parents of Seal Team 6 casualties would show up and tell quite a different story than the Official Narrative.

Supposedly, Tyrone Woods father is part of the group working to get this information released. The people who are behind all of it are Obama, Biden, Brennan, Hillary, Panetta and made some others. Basically the people who ran the Russia hoax.

It's crazy as hell what they are claiming but I'm having a hard time just writing it off give what we already know about these corrupt monsters.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2024 06:03 PM (LkLld)

100 We're mostly moving deck chairs about the Titanic. We are currently in the midst of Judgement Day. There is ample evidence this will continue until 2033 when the end of days will happen.

Posted by: Terminal Generation at September 13, 2024 06:04 PM (CV8a5)

101 My money's on underage boys

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 13, 2024 05:44 PM (/U5Yz)
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Phrasing.

Posted by: Axenab at September 13, 2024 06:04 PM (krQz2)

102 Check GP for Harris in PA.

Aunt Kammi is drunk again.
That "wipe nose, drop hand hard down to side" is classic day-drunk fading to blackout.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 13, 2024 06:04 PM (SiMoN)

103
Ace misses this because he can't see past Trump being a gavonne from Queens

I think JJ Sef and CBD know what that means, but prolly not ace.

I don’t think you can be a Wharton grad of DJT vintage and be a cofone though.

Posted by: kallisto at September 13, 2024 06:05 PM (11kdj)

104 >>> 32 Just when you think the Pope may be ok, he just endorsed Kamala.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 13, 2024 05:38 PM (MeG8a)

No, that was my editorial flair. But he did say Trump is anti immigration. Which is not even true, not particularly anti-life if it was, and covers up the horrible crimes being committed like human/child trafficking across our border.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 13, 2024 06:05 PM (Y6IkP)

105 THEIR definition of Populism: a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups:

Now, established elite groups are? Media. Hollywood. Banksters. Corporate America. DC UniParty.

and then they contend that Populism is somehow a BAD thing in a Democracy... and in fact you must defeat Populism to defend the Democracy... which would be the Majority having power over the Elite Minority.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2024 06:06 PM (xaFKb)

106 74 Alex Thompson
@AlexThomp
Inbox: Kamala Harris is sitting for a solo TV interview but keeping it to local news.
She’s participating in a taped interview with Brian Taff for Action News 6 ABC, a local station in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The interview will air on the station's 6pm broadcast.
---
Oh lord. The guy who's biggest story to date is firemen rescuing a kitten from a tree?
This could go either way:
1) overboard slobbering, topping even "what enchants you the most about being [vice] President?"
2) Accidently asks tough questions and we get classic Kammi. eg, which rapper do you like, or where she explains what the computing cloud is.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 13, 2024 05:53 PM (EItv/)

His analingus will be so dutiful and servile his mouth will taste of her ass through Christmas.

Posted by: Ho Ho Ho at September 13, 2024 06:06 PM (oh8/H)

107 $35 trillion in debt after both Parties running for decades on cutting the deficit.

The people at the top are the worst of society

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 13, 2024 06:06 PM (aIU4O)

108 ***"Brokenism:"***
----------------------------

Like Boeing's 2500 going on strike. That's the way, the failure theater way, the union way.

Boeing; Go broke and go away.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 13, 2024 06:06 PM (hwaFC)

109 It's a strange world when you would happily exchange 500 Russell Brand's for a single David French. Any alliance in the war we're in is valuable if they want to fight. We can all sort out our differences if we're still around as a country in a few years.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at September 13, 2024 06:07 PM (xaNfJ)

110 I refer to the current pope as Lil Papi.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 13, 2024 05:52 PM (wBaIH)

I have a book called 'The Bad Popes'. It's good history, and a reminder that even one of the longest lived organization can falter, but survive if changes are made.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:07 PM (n7h9X)

111 103
Ace misses this because he can't see past Trump being a gavonne from Queens

I think JJ Sef and CBD know what that means, but prolly not ace.

I don’t think you can be a Wharton grad of DJT vintage and be a cofone though.
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Will there be an English translation available?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 13, 2024 06:07 PM (dg+HA)

112 No, that was my editorial flair. But he did say Trump is anti immigration. Which is not even true, not particularly anti-life if it was, and covers up the horrible crimes being committed like human/child trafficking across our border.
Posted by: banana Dream at September 13, 2024 06:05 PM (Y6IkP)

Funny the Vatican itself does not allow immigration, and only residents can even stay there.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2024 06:07 PM (xaFKb)

113 Still unclear if the pope is Catholic

he’s LARPing!

Posted by: kallisto at September 13, 2024 06:08 PM (11kdj)

114 >>> The Pope said he is for child trafficking? That's worse than pro Kamala.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:00 PM (n7h9X)

Sorry my 104 was in reply to yours but my eyesight sucks and I'm just supprised I can do anything right somedays

Posted by: banana Dream at September 13, 2024 06:09 PM (Y6IkP)

115 It's a strange world when you would happily exchange 500 Russell Brand's for a single David French. Any alliance in the war we're in is valuable if they want to fight. We can all sort out our differences if we're still around as a country in a few years.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at September 13, 2024 06:07 PM (xaNfJ)

There's an old saying "Last War's Enemies, This War's Allies". Its they way it always used to be before big Ideology took over most things. Look, the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold war morphed into Cold War 2 in at most 10 years. Probably less.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:09 PM (n7h9X)

116 Geez. People praying for hard men to appear? Why not nut up and become a hard man yourself.

I realized that much when I was young.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 13, 2024 06:10 PM (g8Ew8)

117 It's crazy as hell what they are claiming but I'm having a hard time just writing it off give what we already know about these corrupt monsters.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2024 06:03 PM (LkLld)

It's patently outlandish.
But in a land where the government demonstrably lies all the time and brands honest men liars for telling inconvenient truths and actively suppresses speech it does not like, anything is possible. That's why the "brokenists" are correct about the country. We are in a Soviet-lite phase of culture and governance.

Posted by: sucks to be us at September 13, 2024 06:10 PM (oh8/H)

118 Frankie the Red is a garbage human. He agrees with all this NWO shit. He just wears fuzzy slippers and a big fucking hat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 13, 2024 06:11 PM (4Med0)

119 No, that was my editorial flair. But he did say Trump is anti immigration. Which is not even true, not particularly anti-life if it was, and covers up the horrible crimes being committed like human/child trafficking across our border.
Posted by: banana Dream at September 13, 2024 06:05 PM (Y6IkP)
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Bible also mentions people who like their ears tickled.

Like people who liked being told how open and generous and goodhearted they are by letting in the World's population for the Democrat plot to change Census and vote allocation. As well as hopefully mint new voters.

Trump said he wanted a "beautiful big door" in the wall "but you have to come in legally".

It's not very good Popin' to take people's words out of the full context. Meanwhile, Harris wants make sure there are a lot more babies killed.

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 06:11 PM (krQz2)

120 If you have a half hour to spare this is pretty wild.

https://tinyurl.com/4tdkwwh3
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2024 05:50 PM (LkLld)
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Will this count for the book thread?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2024 06:11 PM (RIvkX)

121 >>> The Pope said he is for child trafficking? That's worse than pro Kamala.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:00 PM (n7h9X)

Sorry my 104 was in reply to yours but my eyesight sucks and I'm just supprised I can do anything right somedays
Posted by: banana Dream at September 13, 2024 06:09 PM (Y6IkP)

I reread yours and think I misread it. Pope said that stopping immigration might be as bad as child murder, which is leaning way too far towards normalizing abortion for my taste.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:11 PM (n7h9X)

122 Gavone means baffoon. There's a shit load in NYC and its buroughs

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 13, 2024 06:12 PM (wBaIH)

123 People praying for hard men to appear? Why not nut up and become a hard man yourself.

Because I'm a 69 year old white woman with lupus?

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 06:12 PM (SfhV1)

124 Keep you head on a swivel around -- otters

https://tinyurl.com/5c9x69uv

Vicious beasts.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 13, 2024 06:12 PM (/U5Yz)

125
We're mostly moving deck chairs about the Titanic. We are currently in the midst of Judgement Day. There is ample evidence this will continue until 2033 when the end of days will happen.
Posted by: Terminal Generation

Generation T?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 13, 2024 06:12 PM (63Dwl)

126 96 More than 40% of GDP (and that is a low estimate) is spent by either Local, State, or Fed, Government.

You cannot have a free economy when that much of the entire economy is tied to politics.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2024 06:02 PM (xaFKb)

Agreed. A while back someone on here said the Chinese Communist central government was 20 percent smaller than the USA government. If true, that is mind blowing.
May be noted 'conservative' Jim Jordan will write a letter and get us out of this mess.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at September 13, 2024 06:13 PM (FCPbW)

127 @111

My touchscreen copypasta not working…

The words Igno and I used are urban Italian-American corruption of cavone or cofone, Italian words meaning lowlife, boor, unsavory character, jamoke, facciabrutta, and like that.

I hope that clears it up

Posted by: kallisto at September 13, 2024 06:13 PM (11kdj)

128 It's crazy as hell what they are claiming but I'm having a hard time just writing it off give what we already know about these corrupt monsters.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2024 06:03 PM (LkLld)

They 'accidentally' declassified some 'Secret' documents about the Marine Barracks Bombing in Beirut in 83, which showed Iran was behind the whole thing, how it was planned and carried out. They then reclassified them even though it was then 35 years after the 'incident'.

The Israelis finally got the architect of that plan, about a Month ago... 41 years later. We didn't do shit, even though Reagan AT THE TIME knew exactly who had done it... and every administration afterwards didn't give a shit.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2024 06:13 PM (xaFKb)

129 It's going to be tje Marxists taking over or a uprising

Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2024 06:13 PM (fwDg9)

130 We are in a Soviet-lite phase of culture and governance.
Posted by: sucks to be us at September 13, 2024 06:10 PM (oh8/H)

You know who said exactly that about a year before the SMO. Vlad Putin, in a huge Q/A he has annually with Russian and foreign press, hours long with no notes.

And he seemed sad about it more than pleased or angry.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:14 PM (n7h9X)

131 Geez. People praying for hard men to appear? Why not nut up and become a hard man yourself.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 13, 2024 06:10 PM (g8Ew

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As I said, you're praying against the wheel that says hard times make hard men. We're currently coming to soft men make hard times.

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 06:14 PM (krQz2)

132 I think that regardless how the 'election' pans out, people are going to have to decide how aggressive they want to be moving forward... sticking to their ideals. The left has demonstrated they're willing to go all the way. I don't think we have.

"Keeping your powder dry" is a age old slang for waiting until the opportunity for attack is presented.

My "powder" is getting stale.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2024 06:14 PM (Q4IgG)

133 >>>> Funny the Vatican itself does not allow immigration, and only residents can even stay there.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2024 06:07 PM (xaFKb)

I've always thought that was a good point. For what it's worth Benedict wrote positively about national sovereignty and against flooding nations with immigrants.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 13, 2024 06:14 PM (Y6IkP)

134 Whatifalthist has a great vid on youtube that pairs well:

youtube.com/watch?v=MLl2D5VRL0o

Posted by: geewhiz at September 13, 2024 06:15 PM (65K9+)

135 Because I'm a 69 year old white woman with lupus?
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 06:12 PM (SfhV1)

So I guess you're giving up then.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 13, 2024 06:15 PM (g8Ew8)

136 It's never lupus.

Posted by: The TV show House at September 13, 2024 06:15 PM (dg+HA)

137 I was thinking about the RFK Jr/ Shanahan alliance. I know there's a lot we don't agree on. But we are all reasonable people that can unite where we do agree. The Left demands complete obedience.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 13, 2024 06:16 PM (MpVUb)

138 My dear mother excused all the pedophile priests because she so believed in the virtue of the Catholic Church. At some point, no excuse suffices for the breakdown and corruption of our intuitions,

Posted by: Ksw at September 13, 2024 06:16 PM (33x2A)

139 Meanwhile, i beginto suspect that maybe, possibly, perhaps, not only was the Wuhan flu debacle orchestrated to take down Trump, but to also muddy the waters about who was responsible for the destruction of the USA.

*Adjusts tinfoil hat for better reception.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 13, 2024 06:17 PM (RLLZj)

140 So I guess you're giving up then.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 13, 2024 06:15 PM (g8Ew

Why would I do that? Listen, don't underestimate the power of prayer. So yes, I do pray for strong men.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 06:17 PM (SfhV1)

141 I've always thought that was a good point. For what it's worth Benedict wrote positively about national sovereignty and against flooding nations with immigrants.
Posted by: banana Dream

It’s why he had to go.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 13, 2024 06:18 PM (4Med0)

142 >>> I reread yours and think I misread it. Pope said that stopping immigration might be as bad as child murder, which is leaning way too far towards normalizing abortion for my taste.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:11 PM (n7h9X)

Yes, trivializing/normalizing evil is also evil.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 13, 2024 06:18 PM (Y6IkP)

143 137 I was thinking about the RFK Jr/ Shanahan alliance. I know there's a lot we don't agree on. But we are all reasonable people that can unite where we do agree. The Left demands complete obedience.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 13, 2024 06:16 PM (MpVUb)

Both groups understand the root of the problem...

It's like two Doctors arguing over a Cancer treatment... they both know it's Cancer, but one wants to kill it with poison, while the other wants surgery...

But both see that the DC culture, is Cancer.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2024 06:18 PM (xaFKb)

144 Lupus or not glad to see grammie winger posting

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 13, 2024 06:18 PM (wBaIH)

145 Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 06:17 PM (SfhV1)

Good for you, Grammie!.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2024 06:19 PM (dTTBf)

146 Thank you Zhukov.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 06:19 PM (SfhV1)

147 The Israelis finally got the architect of that plan, about a Month ago... 41 years

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Respect - Israel has no statute of limitations for crimes against its people. Did you hear that 98 year old Uke nazi hiding in Canada ? Good.

Posted by: runner at September 13, 2024 06:19 PM (V13WU)

148 and then they contend that Populism is somehow a BAD thing in a Democracy... and in fact you must defeat Populism to defend the Democracy... which would be the Majority having power over the Elite Minority.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2024 06:06 PM (xaFKb)

yeah I remember how the intellectuals all backed the 'cultured' Boni (best people) over the Populares of Julius Caesar, and how dismissive the FDR lovers were for the "Populist" Huey Long.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:19 PM (n7h9X)

149 I grew up in a Sicilian neighborhood in The Bronx.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 13, 2024 06:19 PM (nFx0I)

150 Hey there Fen.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 06:20 PM (SfhV1)

151 I still cannot fathom how far we have fallen so fast. The fact that someone as fucking dumb as Kamala Harris could get this close to so much power is unreal.

Posted by: jsg at September 13, 2024 06:20 PM (Mm49z)

152 What happened is that whether people were consciously Biblical or not, the basic code/values of most people were based on Biblical values. Starting in the 70s, God was replaced by money. The basic code/values for most is "if I do this do I make more money?" This has led to what we are living in.

Posted by: azjaeger at September 13, 2024 06:20 PM (bvEp2)

153 32
‘ Just when you think the Pope may be ok’

I’ll never think that this pope is in any way OK

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 13, 2024 06:20 PM (3wi/L)

154 Why would I do that? Listen, don't underestimate the power of prayer. So yes, I do pray for strong men.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 06:17 PM (SfhV1)
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If God's got a better plan, I don't want to get in the way.

We're long past Israel. The Lord's son grew up and is gone. The Lord does not call men out to the battlefield anymore because as Paul said we don't' make war as the world does, but we make it with arguments.

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 06:20 PM (krQz2)

155 140 So I guess you're giving up then.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 13, 2024 06:15 PM (g8Ew

Why would I do that? Listen, don't underestimate the power of prayer. So yes, I do pray for strong men.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 06:17 PM (SfhV1)

Pfft. A real conservative woman would transition into a man so she could be the hard man she's praying for!

Posted by: conservative who's so confused you'd have to perform ass surgery to give me a lobotomy at September 13, 2024 06:20 PM (oh8/H)

156 I think the great problem with this era is more or less what I would call, "Bond Villainism"

We have incredibly rich and powerful people who absolutely do not believe in the societies in which they live and into which they were born,
and they have realized that they have the most powerful weapon in the human universe, which is bribing the sociopaths and dickweeds who run the country.

China as a nation has realized this too.

Does it seem like nothing, no cornerstone of American life or culture work anymore as they are supposed to? Does it often seem like these institutions are, in fact, doing the opposite of what they were created to do?

The Left has turned subversion into an art and a calling. There are people who will, say, join the Church just to tear it down, who join gov't or a business to weaken it. Buuuuuuut, if there aren't people who will do that for pats on the head by the Left, there are plenty who will do it for cold hard cash.

Just look at the outsized influence of a Soros or Schwab, or freaking China among our political class and MSM and universities.

I don't believe things are broken so much as being torn down and destroyed to satisfy the desires of Our Bette

Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2024 06:21 PM (eDfFs)

157 Our laws aren't broken. They're unenforced. This flows from unaccountable elected and unelected officials who accept payoffs wherever they find them. The only law they understand is "you scratch my back or I'll scratch your eyes out ".

Posted by: Enough BS at September 13, 2024 06:21 PM (2NXcZ)

158 "The Lord's son grew up and is gone."

You sure about that?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 13, 2024 06:22 PM (dg+HA)

159 My dear mother excused all the pedophile priests because she so believed in the virtue of the Catholic Church. At some point, no excuse suffices for the breakdown and corruption of our intuitions,
Posted by: Ksw at September 13, 2024 06:16 PM (33x2A)

I wanted the Church to handle the pedo priests so they could do something a lot worse than the US Justice System would. But no. But I saw that coming when they started allowing homosexuals in more readily.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 13, 2024 06:22 PM (n7h9X)

160 The Borg is a kind of parasite that gotten so big it's killing its host. This will change. Let's work and pray for the best.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 13, 2024 06:23 PM (nFx0I)

161 Noodus Interruptous.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 13, 2024 06:23 PM (/VBJ9)

162 Pfft. A real conservative woman would transition into a man so she could be the hard man she's praying for!
Posted by: conservative who's so confused you'd have to perform ass surgery to give me a lobotomy at September 13, 2024 06:20 PM (oh8/H)

Way to contort a general expression.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 13, 2024 06:23 PM (g8Ew8)

163 Speaking of prayer, I do have a prayer request:

Some of you know of my young friend in her 30's with the first initial of C .and who is being harrassed and threatened by a neighbor who clearly has mental health and drug problems. There is a warrant out for mentally ill person's arrest but it has not posted yet. Friend went to court last Tuesday. How long do these things take? Please pray for the safety of my friend. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2024 06:23 PM (dTTBf)

164 Alana Newhouse at Tablet wrote in 2022 that the critical issue of our age is not between the left and right per se:

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Before that, she wrote a great essay called "Everything Is Broken" (a phrase I've repeated repeatedly said since) in January 2021:

http://tiny.cc/rtvlzz

Posted by: ShainS at September 13, 2024 06:24 PM (ms/Yf)

165 151 I still cannot fathom how far we have fallen so fast. The fact that someone as fucking dumb as Kamala Harris could get this close to so much power is unreal.
Posted by: jsg at September 13, 2024 06:20 PM (Mm49z)

I used to laugh about the ineptitude of youngsters, sure that my competence was permanent job security. But it's become obvious that an awful lot of people are content to sit in a burning house mumbling "this is fine," like that dog in the comic.

Posted by: boiled lawn, it's what's for dinner at September 13, 2024 06:25 PM (oh8/H)

166 YO! Nood!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 13, 2024 06:25 PM (/VBJ9)

167 Things are fucked up? What are you prepared to do?

Posted by: Zombie Malone of the Untouchables at September 13, 2024 06:25 PM (i0F8b)

168 I miss Pope Benedict

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 13, 2024 06:27 PM (Ydd86)

169 I still cannot fathom how far we have fallen so fast. The fact that someone as fucking dumb as Kamala Harris could get this close to so much power is unreal.

Posted by: jsg at September 13, 2024 06:20 PM (Mm49z)
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If you read what I wrote above, you can see all the way that "status-quoists" are in denial about how much the elite "status-quoists" are completely changing the entire field of play.

They have to delude themselves for the security that they can squeeze out of it.

Meanwhile DC does not care what happens to them whether your a brokenist or a status-quoist. The Dems are driving us to unlimited government, because they think the government as an "instrument of the people's will" should never be shackled--and I cannot overstate how much this is a chief theme of fascism.

Meanwhile they will get no security from the transformers, who are letting felons back out on the street daily and shipping migrants into their neighborhoods to subsidize their buying of houses and cars to empower people who don't know how to act in America.

Severely delusional. OF COURSE, they buy that Kamala is that shred of cloth to swaddle them against the storm!

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 06:27 PM (krQz2)

170 Why would I do that? Listen, don't underestimate the power of prayer. So yes, I do pray for strong men.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at September 13, 2024 06:17 PM (SfhV1)

There's a reason they call people who pray unceasingly prayer warriors.

Hoorah! Granny

I don't know what you've been told
But on your knees is being bold.
Our true Savior has our backs.
Angel armies never slack.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 13, 2024 06:27 PM (RLLZj)

171 The divide is no longer right/left, it's sane/insane and freedom/marxism.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 13, 2024 05:24 PM (2UnvF)

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Good/Evil ... same has it ever was.

Posted by: ShainS at September 13, 2024 06:28 PM (ms/Yf)

172 163 Speaking of prayer, I do have a prayer request:

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2024 06:23 PM

Where is "C" located?

Might need a "roommate" until the warrant is fulfilled.

Preferably a large male, or one of our armed 'ettes.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 13, 2024 06:29 PM (HlyYF)

173 "What is the lesser evil? That woman, or that man?" he continued, referring to Vice President Kamala Harris and her Republican opponent, former president Donald Trump. - Pope Frankie

Just like how he got to be Pope. If he was the lesser evil, I'd hate to meet the guy he beat.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 13, 2024 06:31 PM (fQmeC)

174 Pennsylvanians’ mail ballots must have a proper date on their envelopes or they will be rejected, under a decision Friday from the state Supreme Court that could affect thousands of voters this November.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court vacated a Commonwealth Court ruling from Aug. 30 that found the state’s requirement on ballot dating was an unconstitutional violation of voters’ rights.

Posted by: SMOD at September 13, 2024 05:32 PM (oJ8XS)

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Four years too late.

Posted by: ShainS at September 13, 2024 06:32 PM (ms/Yf)

175 "The Lord's son grew up and is gone."

You sure about that?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 13, 2024 06:22 PM (dg+HA)
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From Israel?

Pretty sure.

Will he return, yes.

I didn't say he was done, I said the Kingdom of Israel is gone. Not that it won't be re-established.

But here's the good thing about that. We won't have to debate and discuss what God wants from us. He'll tell us daily.

Posted by: Axeman at September 13, 2024 06:32 PM (krQz2)

176
It's crazy as hell what they are claiming but I'm having a hard time just writing it off give what we already know about these corrupt monsters.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2024 06:03 PM

I listened to the video and it just seems to be a second attempt at this story from 2020...

Same names. Falconer, etc.

https://is.gd/6b35ct

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 13, 2024 06:37 PM (RKVpM)

177 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 13, 2024 06:29 PM (HlyYF)

NJ. She has a fiance that is staying with her temporarily-a good, strong conservative guy, but apparently the mentally ill woman has a mob of friends.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2024 06:37 PM (dTTBf)

178 177 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 13, 2024 06:29 PM (HlyYF)

NJ. She has a fiance that is staying with her temporarily-a good, strong conservative guy, but apparently the mentally ill woman has a mob of friends.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2024 06:37 PM

Good deal!

In that case, will just send the prayer.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 13, 2024 06:39 PM (HlyYF)

179 103

I don’t think you can be a Wharton grad of DJT vintage and be a cofone though.

Posted by: kallisto at September 13, 2024 06:05 PM (11kdj)
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Is that the Italian cafone or is it something else?

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, sono tutti cafoni at September 13, 2024 06:43 PM (qfLjt)

180 Never trust the FBI/DoJ/CIA. Do not speak to their agents without your lawyer present. Do not permit them on your property or into your home without a warrant. Assume that they intend to lie, deceive and oppress you unless/until they produce court admissible documentation that proves otherwise. They are not honorable. They are not heroic. They are not your friend and they do not care if you suffer. In fact they are likely to be the cause of your suffering. NEVER EVER TRUST THEM.

Posted by: Brokenist in Texas - lets start with the DoJ CIA and FBI at September 13, 2024 06:44 PM (EG5bh)

181 "Do you know what time it is? This is The Time It Is. Are you one of the few who realizes we are much closer to the end of things than the middle?"
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We are in the time of cultural decay. I do not say that in a despairing way, I haven't given up, and I sure as hell hope that I never do. But, comfort and security have conspired to allow, even promote, non-stop self-indulgence.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2024 06:47 PM (XeU6L)

182 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 13, 2024 06:39 PM (HlyYF)

Thanks very much!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2024 06:48 PM (dTTBf)

183 Any Tom Dick or Harry can just walk in here and take over the place.
I'm embarrassed all to hell because this batch of Marxist are useless for most human activities.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 13, 2024 06:49 PM (EjtIc)

184 Nic Update.

Posted by: ShainS -- You Can't Spell TRIUMPH Without TRUMP! at September 13, 2024 10:31 PM (gorDR)

185 The nation didn't survive its many devastating experiences. Each one chipped away at the foundation, distorting it, destabilizing it, altering it. Never improving it wholly, usually making it worse. The Civil War demonstrated the totalitarians impulse existed and would be used in the right people's hands, damn the tropedos. Damn the Constitution. Most of all damn the citizens, The same impulses were demonstrated in WWI and again under FDR when if your skin color was wrong there were special camps for you. Odd how German Americans and Italian Americans didn't get to go to these camps. In 1964 we saw the Civil Rights Act which said damn the Constitution, certain rights trump all other rights if the government says so, after all rights are given by the government.

And you wonder how the government shots down women in the capitol without cause after watching them burn women and children alive at Waco and kill a woman armed with a dangerous baby at Ruby Ridge and ask yourself how did we get here?
Because the government says BLM and Antifa have the right to steal, loot, burn and murder and you don't. That's what every two bit dictator does.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at September 14, 2024 05:38 PM (bXvrr)

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