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Daily Tech News 25 August 2024

Top Story

  • Pavel Durov, founder and CEO of messaging app Telegram, has been arrested in Paris on charges of... Fuck charges, he's a libertarian and this is France. (Ars Technica)

    Durov founded Russian social network VKontake before resigning because... We don't know exactly, but allegedly because the Russian government had assumed de facto control of the company, wanted him gone, and wasn't too fussy about how he left. China subsequently banned VKontakte as a tool of the Russian government, but China bans everyone.

    Ars' creative director Aurich Lawson - who personally suspended my account once for pointing out the site's rampant hypocrisy - noted:
    I'm pretty curious to see how this plays out. Is it really as simple as "you ran a platform where you didn't moderate private messages, therefore you're criminally responsible for everything people said"?

    Because that seems pretty chilling on the face of things.
    Do tell, Mr. Lawson.

    It's time to start treating Europe like North Korea. If you go there, assume that you are not coming home intact.

Tech News

  • NASA has finally made a decision. (WCCFTech)

    Butch and Suni will be coming home on SpaceX's Crew Dragon, after tests of another Starliner module showed similar but not identical failures in the attitude control thrusters.

    A second Crew Dragon module will be sent up to dock with the ISS next month - there is one docked permanently as a lifeboat - with two additional crew onboard. The return trip is planned for February next year.


  • Do you have a laptop, mini-PC, or all-in-one desktop that handles your computing needs just fine but you need more storage - and want to stick with an all solid-state solution - and you need something fast and don't want to mess about with NAS hardware and USB 10Gb Ethernet adapters?

    Yes?

    The TB4S-OC from Aoostar may be what you need. (Liliputing)

    The price is reasonable at $179, and it supports four M.2 drives. Connection to your computer is by USB4 at 40Gbps or OCuLink at 64Gbps if you have that (basically PCIe over a cable).

    You will need a USB4, Thunderbolt, or OCuLink port. Internally it's just a PCIe switch, so it does not work at all with generic USB ports.


  • Always wanted your own mainframe? Christie's has an IBM 7090 on offer right now. (Tom's Hardware)

    Price is expected to be in the area of $50,000. Plus shipping, which could add up because it weighs 23,000 lbs.


Disclaimer: Your mainframe so fat...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM




Comments

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1 I'm surprised Biden/Harris didn't ask the Chinese for help because Elon is icky.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 25, 2024 04:12 AM (pIfcn)

2 SUMMARY
Brazil’s election court announced it may nullify election winners who spread online ‘misinformation.’

Hundreds of censorship professionals have been hired to read text message chats in Telegram and WhatsApp for ‘misinformation’ to report for apps to ban.

Financing for censorship of Brazilian citizens’ text messages is coming from USAID, the State Department, and the National Endowment for Democracy.

Foundation for Freedom Online.

https://tinyurl.com/2s3k79zm



Posted by: 13times at August 25, 2024 04:14 AM (gb5tG)

3 Just when you think it can't get any worse, it gets worse. They pull you right back in. It's unbelievable!

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 25, 2024 04:24 AM (TGPs7)

4 Christie’s says the hardware [IBM 7090] on auction is from the Paul G. Allen (Microsoft co-founder) Collection.

Paul Allen was something of a pack rat and one of his obsessions was collecting historical computing hardware which he put on display at a small museum in Seattle. The museum was in a non-descript South Seattle industrial warehouse and was barely attended because it was lightly promoted. I can't remember if there was an entrance fee or not but it seems to me that there wasn't. It always struck me as being one of the finest collections of of historical computing gear, mostly still functional, around and it is a shame to see that it is being broken up.

The other outstanding collection is held at the Microsoft archives which holds a copy of every piece of software Microsoft ever released, functional PCs to run them, and other Microsoft memorabilia. It's impossible for the general public to go there as you have to be a Microsoft employee to get in which I was at the time.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at August 25, 2024 04:25 AM (/VucX)

5 If I die young, bury me in satin
Lay me down on a bed of roses
Sink me in the river at dawn
Send me away with the words of a love song...

The Band Perry - If I Die Young

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 25, 2024 04:26 AM (TGPs7)

6 I once owned a mainframe. Junked it 20+ years ago after IBM began offering mainframes on Red Hat laptops:

https://tinyurl.com/2zcxwtwm

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 04:29 AM (bboj0)

7 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at August 25, 2024 04:40 AM (dg+HA)

8 Mornin'

National Endowment for Democracy


I guess 'Ministry for Democracy' would be a bit too Orwellian.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at August 25, 2024 04:41 AM (6bHrD)

9 6 I once owned a mainframe. Junked it 20+ years ago after IBM began offering mainframes on Red Hat laptops:

https://tinyurl.com/2zcxwtwm
Posted by: Biden's Dog


Nice. But these days you can emulate an IBM 7090 on a Raspberry Pi Pico with room to spare, so you have to be pretty determined to keep the original hardware alive.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at August 25, 2024 04:44 AM (BLOW1)

10 Posted by: Pixy Misa at August 25, 2024 04:44 AM (BLOW1)
-

Correct. We used a laptop based server for years until IBM offered a remote development program, which we still use:

https://tinyurl.com/ye63c46h

Overall, downtime is limited to several hours of system maintenance which takes place on about every 2nd Sunday. There have been rare occasions of lost access, like when the facility moved from TX to NY and when some local road construction cut through a massive fiber optic cable. Otherwise, very stable, plus respectable support.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 04:50 AM (bboj0)

11 @9

>>Nice. But these days you can emulate an IBM 7090 on a Raspberry Pi Pico with room to spare

It is rather astonishing that a computer the size of stick of chewing gum has more processing power than room sized super-computer of yesteryear.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 25, 2024 04:55 AM (XV/Pl)

12 Here I am, cooking my butt off in the steam bath on the Venutian Station balloon, and I'd like a report on the Killer Kittenz From Outer Zpace...

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at August 25, 2024 04:57 AM (gHSfI)

13
Funny: Boeing's Space Edsel was contracted for a 6 operation flights to the ISS before the ISS is retired/decommissioned/deorbited in 2030 (unless extended, the damn thing is about 25 years old, total).

With this debacle, they ain't gonna make it. This turkey as already cost Boeing $1.6B over contract.

Any bets on how many successful launches Boeing makes to the ISS before Space Daddy deorbits it to Point Nemo?

DEI, baby!

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 05:03 AM (w6EFb)

14
NASA knows, whether they'll admit it or not, if they want anything done right, they need to call Space Daddy.

Space Daddy was therefore awarded the de-orbiting contract for the ISS. It cost $843M. Nearly a billion dollars to de-orbit the thing and send it in the deep drink at Point Nemo.

Space Daddy will send something up, dock with the ISS, and then thrust the de-orbiting maneuvers to bring it down to Point Nemo.

Seriously, this is not a trivial thing to do. Again, they don't call this Rocket Surgery for nothing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 05:08 AM (w6EFb)

15 @13

>>Any bets on how many successful launches Boeing makes to the ISS before Space Daddy deorbits it to Point Nemo?

0.0000

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 25, 2024 05:09 AM (XV/Pl)

16 Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson

Pavel Durov left Russia when the government tried to control his social media company, Telegram. But in the end, it wasn’t Putin who arrested him for allowing the public to exercise free speech. It was a western country, a Biden administration ally and enthusiastic NATO member, that locked him away. Pavel Durov sits in a French jail tonight, a living warning to any platform owner who refuses to censor the truth at the behest of governments and intel agencies. Darkness is descending fast on the formerly free world.

x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/
1827460234887008277

Posted by: ShainS -- Kommie-la 2024: The Fundamental Transtarvation of America! at August 25, 2024 05:09 AM (xYkDU)

17 Evening and morning, AoSHQ satellites! Thing From SM, hang on, it's only 40 years until we can get air conditioning that'll work near Venus. Remember that we're counting on you and your sacrifice will never be forgotten!

The Killer Kittenz From Outer Space are displaying the usual quirks of well-loved and indulged house cats. Stirling the great black is lounging atop the counter that separates the living room from the kitchen, blinking at me in cat code which no doubt means "Where is breakfast?" Dagny the little Siberian princess was sitting on the lamp table to my left, but now I don't see her.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 05:10 AM (omVj0)

18 >> It is rather astonishing that a computer the size of stick of chewing gum has more processing power than room sized super-computer of yesteryear.

I was quite "bemused" a couple years ago when I realized a current desktop I had was capable of X times more FLOPS than some program we wrote in the late '80s ('89, my senior year at Clempson Cow Collidge) ran on a Cray.

One of our perfessors at the time scored some Cray time for us students that year. We had to practice on the local systems, and once we thought it was good, we got to run it on the Cray.

My desktop ran circles around that Cray, I observed. Moore's "Law" in action.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 05:12 AM (w6EFb)

19 As for your intrepid correspondent, I strangely had enough sleep last night -- six uninterrupted hours, believe it or don't. Last night Miss L. and I went out to Baskin-Robbins, the only one on our side of the river, and she had a cherries jubilee cone, while I treated myself to a scoop of mint chocolate chip. First ice cream I've had in months.

I'm up, drinking coffee, planning to work out and to hit Walmart for a few items Aldi did not have yesterday; and then there'll be the Book Thread.

And Dagny hath returned to sit on one of the dining chairs and give me the same "When's breakfast?" look.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 05:14 AM (omVj0)

20 A shooting in front of Adler's jewelry store on Canal Street about 7 am yesterday. This time it was a security guard plugging somebody, instead of two "yoots" swapping lead. Local news treats this matter-of-factly, as if this is business as usual and the price of living in this dump.

Which it is.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 05:18 AM (omVj0)

21 @18

>>My desktop ran circles around that Cray, I observed. Moore's "Law" in action.

In times of yore, I maintained SGI Onyx and Onyx2, at post production houses, these are computers the size of refrigerators, with whopping 250mhz of processing power, 4gb of ram.

My watch has more horsepower than this.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 25, 2024 05:19 AM (XV/Pl)

22 G'morning, all!


At $4.99, do you know you can feed cats a BJ's Rotisserie Chicken for about the same cost per serving as cat food?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 25, 2024 05:22 AM (a1415)

23 My first exposure to PCs was in early 1988, at a trade school via the Displaced Workers Program. These were "Leading Edge" PCs, probably 8088s, with DOS, WordPerfect and WordStar and DBase III. At my first job I worked with a similar machine, hard drive and one 5.25" floppy and a screen with green lettering on black instead of the yellow that came later.

My first private PC was from CompuAdd in '89, a DOS machine with a whopping 40MB hard drive, yellow lettering, WordPerfect, and a modem that I installed myself and used to communicate with the work mainframe for classwork. COBOL programs, if it matters.

No Internet, of course. Sometimes I wish we still computed like that now. (Only sometimes.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 05:26 AM (omVj0)

24 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at August 25, 2024 05:26 AM (86W+h)

25
One of my Computer Sci perfessers at Clempson Cow Collidge, who was colludin' with a this physics and math perferssors in this senior year numerical analysis course we took had a funny story.

This was serious business, allowing students to use precious Cray time. We was heavily supervised. Cray time was $$$.

This Computer Sci perfessor, as a young buck, worked for Cray. He was doing something, which printed output on some big-ass line printer. He had a bug, that spewed a bunch of form feeds, causing said line printer to vomit reams of paper out. A volcano of paper erupting from the printer.

Seymour Cray, his own self, walked into the room, when that printer so erupted. My perfesso said he thought he was gone. Seymour Cray was gonna fire his ass right then and there and throw him out, "You stupid motherfucker, get the hell out and don't ever come back".

Seymour Cray just laughed his ass off, patted my perferssor on the back, and recalled the time he did the same thing, spewing reams of paper out of a printer. Seymour Cray his own self helped my perfessor debug his program to find the source of the paper-spewing bug.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 05:26 AM (w6EFb)

26 There is a fox screaming outside, somewhere in the neighborhood.

Someone is having a Grimm morning.

Posted by: fluffy at August 25, 2024 05:29 AM (86W+h)

27 Seymour Cray just laughed his ass off, patted my perferssor on the back, and recalled the time he did the same thing, spewing reams of paper out of a printer. Seymour Cray his own self helped my perfessor debug his program to find the source of the paper-spewing bug.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024


***
Sometimes, the bigger they are, the more human they are. (Excepting people of course with names like Biden, Obama, Clinton, et al.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 05:31 AM (omVj0)

28
Seymour Cray died stupidly, in Oct. of 1996 one week after his 71st birthday. Traffic accident. He was merging into I-25 in Colorado, and was hit by some reckless lunatic.

He lingered for two weeks, and one week after his 71st birthday.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 05:33 AM (w6EFb)

29 >>>who personally suspended my account once for pointing out the site's rampant hypocrisy

ha ha ha!

Posted by: m at August 25, 2024 05:33 AM (64Zez)

30 Alrighty.....time for the morning walk (M/W).


BBIAB


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 25, 2024 05:40 AM (a1415)

31 17 Stirling the great black is lounging atop the counter that separates the living room from the kitchen, blinking at me in cat code which no doubt means "Where is breakfast?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 05:10 AM (omVj0)

Blink back! But from a distance.

Posted by: m at August 25, 2024 05:40 AM (64Zez)

32 The temp is about the same as usual, 82 F., but the humidity is still down a fraction. Heat index is 89. But the rest of the week will be no better.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 05:43 AM (omVj0)

33
Seymour Cray had a notorius relationship with corporate bean counters and investment type. They demanded he provide them with a detailed 5 year plan, and 1 year status report into it.

His report so consisted of something like "5 year plan: build biggest and fastest computer in the world. 1 yr goal: 1/5th of above".

When later asked for a status report on this plane, he provided a two sentence report, saying "Things are proceeding according to plan. No changes are needed".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 05:44 AM (w6EFb)

34 Stirling the great black is lounging atop the counter that separates the living room from the kitchen, blinking at me in cat code which no doubt means "Where is breakfast?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024
*
Blink back! But from a distance.
Posted by: m at August 25, 2024


***
Too late. I already fed them. Breakfast for them is usually 4:30 to 5:30 am; dinner about the same in pm, and they have come to expect this.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 05:45 AM (omVj0)

35 They demanded he provide them with a detailed 5 year plan, and 1 year status report into it.

His report so consisted of something like "5 year plan: build biggest and fastest computer in the world. 1 yr goal: 1/5th of above".

When later asked for a status report on this plane, he provided a two sentence report, saying "Things are proceeding according to plan. No changes are needed".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024


***
We need more people like this.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 05:46 AM (omVj0)

36 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 25, 2024 05:47 AM (yostU)

37
Financing for censorship of Brazilian citizens’ text messages is coming from USAID, the State Department, and the National Endowment for Democracy


I guess, like "vaccine", the word "democracy" has been redefined.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 25, 2024 05:50 AM (wo4nb)

38
The other outstanding collection is held at the Microsoft archives which holds a copy of every piece of software Microsoft ever released, functional PCs to run them, and other Microsoft memorabilia. It's impossible for the general public to go there as you have to be a Microsoft employee to get in which I was at the time.


Great, a room filled with computers, all aglow with the Blue Screen of Death

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 25, 2024 05:52 AM (wo4nb)

39
It's impossible for the general public to go there as you have to be a Microsoft employee to get in which I was at the time.


It is, however, Mecca for followers of the Cult of Clippy

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 25, 2024 05:53 AM (wo4nb)

40 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at August 25, 2024 05:57 AM (VdhcA)

41 Big black Stirling has invaded my lap.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 06:01 AM (omVj0)

42
🦟 Mosquito gif. Bummer, not gonna show up.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 25, 2024 06:04 AM (RKVpM)

43 8 Mornin'

National Endowment for Democracy

I guess 'Ministry for Democracy' would be a bit too Orwellian.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at August 25, 2024 04:41 AM (6bHrD)

heh

Posted by: m at August 25, 2024 06:05 AM (64Zez)

44 My goodness, Pixy. Here you are even on a Sunday, Thanks for all you do!.







Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2024 06:07 AM (1SFyz)

45
National Endowment for Democracy


It is girthy, however.

'Scuse me while I whip this thing out.

** unzips pants **

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 25, 2024 06:08 AM (wo4nb)

46
I'm trying to remember that Cray time program we students ran on the Cray. It was the Helium atom wave functions. You know, hydrogren, 1 proton, 1 electron, all sorts of interesting Quantum wave functions. Add two, two protons, two electrons, things get very complicated.

We were doing something to try to figure that out (this problem was solved, to so many significant figures long before, but we were students learnin', and all that).

We used an approach called "Simulated Annealing" (look that up). Again, old problem, solved before, but a useful learnin' tool for students.

Now, running the program to do that on local Clempson Cow Collidge hardware at the time, 1989, would've taken ages, but Seymour Cray's latest supercomuter at the time could complete that run in a day or so. That was our project.

Somewhere, up at Mama's house, I have the IBM wide line printer listings of the program we did. It's up there. Somewhere.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 06:12 AM (w6EFb)

47 I was feeling tired after a long day which included a nursing home service and a long phone conversation with a dear person having difficulties, so I asked my son to bring up from downstairs the "Life Application" Bible which is a wonderful resource for Christians because it has all kinds of notes and maps, but it is heavy. He brought it up and said, "You're getting weak in your dotage." I had to laugh because who uses that word (?), but I told him, "Thanks, buddy. I'm weak, but I'm not yet in my dotage."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2024 06:19 AM (dTTBf)

48 And today I have a day off from church. Yay!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2024 06:20 AM (dTTBf)

49 A touch of commiseration, please, for those of us born analog and dragged kicking and screaming into the digital age? There have been some rough patches in the transition.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at August 25, 2024 06:22 AM (hKoQL)

50 I guess, like "vaccine", the word "democracy" has been redefined.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 25, 2024 05:50 AM (wo4nb)

"Justice"
"Fairness"
"Popular"
....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 25, 2024 06:22 AM (BAEGB)

51 "Space Race" A Christian devotional from "Our Daily Bread" based on 1 Corinthians 3:3-9 and dealing with unhealthy competition amongst people in the church:

https://odb.org/2024/08/25/space-race

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2024 06:28 AM (dTTBf)

52 28 minutes before sunrise. I see Jupiter, Mars, Aldebaran, Betelgeuse, Rigel, and Sirius, to the East. Time to go to bed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 06:29 AM (w6EFb)

53 Morning everyone, thx for your efforts Pixy.
National Endowment for Democracy might as well be called CIA Front for Meddling Worldwide

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 25, 2024 06:31 AM (mQCSa)

54
Seymour Cray >> Seymour Butts.

S. Butts, of course, author of the definitive tome, "Under the Bleachers".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 06:35 AM (w6EFb)

55 Not going to see any birds at the feeder for a while.

I looked out and saw a Cooper's hawk on the ground. He seemed a bit puzzled.

"Where did everybody go?"

Posted by: fluffy at August 25, 2024 06:41 AM (86W+h)

56 Busy night for the Las Cruces cops.

I am saying not a natural blonde
https://tinyurl.com/344npe7c

Should be out by Monday.
https://tinyurl.com/mraf6wxw

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at August 25, 2024 06:41 AM (/VucX)

57 28 minutes before sunrise. I see Jupiter, Mars, Aldebaran, Betelgeuse, Rigel, and Sirius, to the East. Time to go to bed.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024


***
I don't think I'll see it get light here for about 45.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 06:46 AM (omVj0)

58 @ 27 : bigness of a person is internal, not external; Cray was a big person, those others you mention (and most of our current self appointed betters) are really infinitesimally tiny, just inflated to look absurdly big by external forces

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 06:46 AM (UWgy2)

59 Never read /r/sysadmin in the evening if you're trying to adjust your sleep schedule to "early to bed, early to rise."

On the bright side, I have coffee this morning.

"Your mainframe so fat..."

And now I'm wearing some of that coffee. Thanks, Pixy. :-)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 25, 2024 06:46 AM (O7YUW)

60 and G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 06:47 AM (UWgy2)

61 So what are they going to do with the Space Edsel? Use it as a kinetic impactor?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 25, 2024 06:48 AM (vNdJC)

62 Hungary and Poland seem to have leader who are not autocratic, but even in England expressing the wrong opinion can get you arrested.

What's gotten into Western leaders???

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 06:49 AM (HDFv7)

63
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 25, 2024 06:49 AM (tljrc)

64 Anime news:

Looks like AnimEigo has gone live on Kickstarter for Kamui no Ken, so if you want a wild anime movie with ninjas here we go.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 25, 2024 06:51 AM (vNdJC)

65
We used an approach called "Simulated Annealing" (look that up). Again, old problem, solved before, but a useful learnin' tool for students.


I am going through my hitherto stored things --copies of papers in the literature and my presentations -- from when I worked at DuPont. I came across an exercise I had done to create a chart of relationships among the paying customers for our internal analytical services group using a newly published method termed a Self Organizing Map, which used a honeycomb (hexagonal) grid to present its outcomes. I could scarcely identify a damn thing the whole exercise had revealed and yet I'd estimate that I spent the better part of a month doing it. Into the trash all of it went.

"Data can be made to confess to practically anything under sufficient torture" was as true then as it is today.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 25, 2024 06:52 AM (wo4nb)

66 sometime in the late 90s I coulda had a CDC Cyber 6400 if I wanted to fish it out of the dumpsters it was in ...

including a big pair of motor-generator units to convert 60 cycles to 400, was it built to be mounted in aircraft? seems like the sort of thing the m-i-c might have done.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 06:53 AM (UWgy2)

67 Hungary and Poland seem to have leader who are not autocratic, but even in England expressing the wrong opinion can get you arrested.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 06:49 AM (HDFv7)
-

From what I understand, it should be coming to Poland, too.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 06:54 AM (bboj0)

68 What's gotten into Western leaders???

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 06:49 AM (HDFv7)
-

Globalism. They need to control the populations before they eliminate them.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 06:55 AM (bboj0)

69 CD Japan is taking preorders for a 4K Ultra HD remaster on Blu-Ray of Macross: Do You Remember Love which is due out on January 29, 2025.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 25, 2024 06:56 AM (vNdJC)

70 Rumble's CEO escaped by the skin of his teeth:

https://tinyurl.com/349c9ttp

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 06:58 AM (bboj0)

71 Happy Sunday

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 25, 2024 07:01 AM (gbOdA)

72
Something else I'm remembering from that Helium atom wave function, simulated annealing approach we used. We were working on the program to do it, late one night in the Library at Clemson Cow Collidge.

We were running that "test bed" on VAX system Clemson had. They had several, some running VMS OS, this one running "Ultrix", some UNIC variant at the time. Sometime, after midnight, we launched that job on the VMS Ultrix, under the user account of one of us, not mine.

Now, that job, on that VMS hardware, would take weeks, even months to run to completion. This was just testing, the full Cray run we were hoping to get to to would've taken an hour or two.... This was just a test.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 07:01 AM (w6EFb)

73
They could use the Space Edsel to store bags of trash that otherwise would be released into space. Kind of a space dumpster, as it were.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 25, 2024 07:01 AM (wo4nb)

74 Wsc28
Seymour Cray died stupidly, in Oct. of 1996 one week after his 71st birthday. Traffic accident. He was merging into I-25 in Colorado, and was hit by some reckless lunatic.

He lingered for two weeks, and one week after his 71st birthday.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 05:33 AM (w6EFb)

Sorry to hear that. Gen.Patton died in a stupid way too; jeep accident, IIRC.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 07:04 AM (yZpub)

75 No need to shave until later today, and I can't leave for the grocery until about seven. Relaxation/reading time!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 25, 2024 07:04 AM (omVj0)

76 If you want to know the nitty-gritty details of what went on between NASA/Boeing versus Space X, there's a new book you can pre-order: "Reentry." The book was completed prior to the Starliner stuck-up.

Here are some tidbits:

https://tinyurl.com/2tm3j2xb

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:05 AM (bboj0)

77
Now, that run, would take weeks at the least. No problem if things worked the way they should. We could come back several hours late, kill it , and verify it was working like it should. Then launch on the real Cray system to run to completion in reasonable time.

Well, there were bugs and all that in the OS software when we submitted that job. It was late at night, and all the higher priority users and such had logged off. Our program jumped up in priority, and was consuming all kinds of CPU time by sunrise the next morning.

The Sysadmin for that VAX Ultrix tried to log on the next morning, and he was delayed....

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 07:07 AM (w6EFb)

78 Sorry to hear that. Gen.Patton died in a stupid way too; jeep accident, IIRC.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 07:04 AM (yZpub)

That's what they want you to believe....

Posted by: Maybe at August 25, 2024 07:07 AM (0eaVi)

79 How many US citizens will die for DIE?

https://tinyurl.com/54zd4w83

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:09 AM (bboj0)

80 That's what they want you to believe....
Posted by: Maybe at August 25, 2024 07:07 AM (0eaVi)
-

It was moon Nazis with a laser beam.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:10 AM (bboj0)

81 https://tinyurl.com/54zd4w83
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:09 AM (bboj0)

As many as we need, of course!

Posted by: WEF and Other Villains at August 25, 2024 07:10 AM (0eaVi)

82
It was the Helium atom wave functions. You know, hydrogren, 1 proton, 1 electron, all sorts of interesting Quantum wave functions. Add two, two protons, two electrons, things get very complicated.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley


That brings to mind something I was told by other graduate students in chemistry at Berkeley. There was a Professor Harris who taught our mandatory quantum chemistry course. I did not gave him as an instructor myself, but I was told that he introduced himself to his class somewhat like this: "Hello, I am Professor Harris. My research interests are systems where the number of particles are less than or equal to one."

To say that there were some strange people in the faculty would be to vastly understate matters.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 25, 2024 07:13 AM (wo4nb)

83 It was moon Nazis with a laser beam.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:10 AM (bboj0)

Patton seemed to feel it wasn't an accident before he died. Mark Felton has a vid. Probably because he advocated for a continuation of the war by attacking the Russians. The reds in the gov't couldn't allow that.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 07:13 AM (0eaVi)

84 I'm pretty curious to see how this plays out. Is it really as simple as "you ran a platform where you didn't moderate private messages, therefore you're criminally responsible for everything people said"?

Because that seems pretty chilling on the face of things.


Isn't Ars always whining about Elon not allowing the CIA to control X?

Posted by: Ian S. at August 25, 2024 07:13 AM (P9pDS)

85 - @49 IRONGRAMPA

Yep. As I remember it, when I was in jr high they came out with a calculator, near the size of a vcr tape, that did + - × and ÷.
Never had one.
First computer experience was around 83. Got moved up to the GC room to run an HP 5880 gas chromatograph. Testing for PCB's, herbicides and pesticides. Moved to a mass spec about a year later.

I'll never be into em.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 25, 2024 07:14 AM (aCV/b)

86
Anyway, our programe, due to bugs in the priority system, had grown to be high priority, and prevented said SysOP from logging in quickly.

He was pissed. WTF is going on? Why does my baby not respond to me. He gets in, sees our program at high priority. He's pissed. He sees the account it was running under and sends a nasty email, after killing our process.

It took that Computer Sci perfesssor to 'splain to the SysOP how it was his own fuck-up, and nothing we students did. You did something stupid with your dynamic time-slice priority algorithm. Ain't nuttin' with my students.

Fix yo' shit and buzz off.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 07:14 AM (w6EFb)

87 A 1959 computer? If you want it to run, you'll need spare parts, ancient software and support from a lot of people who are mostly dead.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 07:15 AM (ZfuJ6)

88 My new smartwatch gets 16 days between charges. I can work with that.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at August 25, 2024 07:16 AM (/VucX)

89 Butch and Suni will be coming home on SpaceX's Crew Dragon, after tests of another Starliner module showed similar but not identical failures in the attitude control thrusters.

I'm going to guess the reason that scared them is the reason it scared me: "similar but not identical". If you can't predict how it's going to behave, that's *really* bad.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 25, 2024 07:16 AM (P9pDS)

90 @83 and it can be taken as given that there were a whole lot of them by that time. McCarthy had no idea at all ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 07:17 AM (UWgy2)

91 Morning Horde. Had a rather spectacular fail on my Samsung flip phone yesterday. Self induced and I no longer have a usable screen so Verizon couldn't transfer my contacts to the new phone. Since I had contacts in the cloud from a former iphone I did retrieve about 100. Verizon suggested using Google Meets to transfer from Google cloud to my new iphone. This has failed spectacularly as well. Anyone here familiar with Google Meets and how it works?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 25, 2024 07:20 AM (2NHgQ)

92 McCarthy had no idea at all ...

Yup. McCarthy was right, but he also dramatically underestimated the size of the problem.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 25, 2024 07:20 AM (P9pDS)

93 @83 and it can be taken as given that there were a whole lot of them by that time. McCarthy had no idea at all ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 07:17 AM (UWgy2)

Probably worse now.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 07:21 AM (0eaVi)

94 Mostly dead is still partly alive.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at August 25, 2024 07:23 AM (BLOW1)

95 quite certainly worse now, much worse.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 07:26 AM (UWgy2)

96 Mostly dead is still partly alive.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at August 25, 2024 07:23 AM (BLOW1)

You mean this thread? JJs not up yet.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 07:26 AM (0eaVi)

97
Isn't Boeing part of the Artemis program to return humans to the Moon?

Keep them in the loop and we're going to be doing little more than scarring the Moon's surface with grisly trenches of debris from "unexpected impacts".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 25, 2024 07:27 AM (wo4nb)

98 You mean this thread? JJs not up yet.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 07:26 AM (0eaVi)
-

*cough*

Sunday.

*cough*

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:28 AM (bboj0)

99 Loooong time til JJ. Dang, still a while til the Book Thread, too!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 07:28 AM (0eaVi)

100 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:28 AM (bboj0)

When you don't work anymore and have nowhere to be....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 07:29 AM (0eaVi)

101 - @93 Probably?

I would be shocked to find that even 0.5% of those staffing the 3 or 4 letter groups that are actually "running" things are God fearing, freedom loving Americans.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 25, 2024 07:31 AM (aCV/b)

102 A man from AZ dealing with irritation towards a customer sales rep on the phone (and haven't la lot of us felt that way? I have) and a reflection on James 1:19-20:

https://www.upperroom.org/devotionals/en-2024-08-25

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2024 07:31 AM (dTTBf)

103 >> Isn't Boeing part of the Artemis program to return humans to the Moon?

I'm not sure.

Space Daddy is a big part of it. A modified Starship that will serve as the HLS (human landing system) on the Moon.

This involved a HALO orbit Lunar Gateway System space station. You can look all that up.

Me, although I forget the details, a while back, I decided that Space Daddys should handle verything, fuck the SLS and Orion docking at the Lunar Gateway in HALO orbit. Just take a crew up in Starship. land on the Moon again, do your shit.

Fuck all that other shit, let Space Daddy handle it all.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 07:32 AM (w6EFb)

104 it's true, Pixy!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 07:32 AM (UWgy2)

105 you're not wrong, publius; he's one of the few people with a working brain at that level; that's why all the rest of them hate him so hard.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 07:36 AM (UWgy2)

106 This needs to be passed on to US voters who still have half a brain:

Chuck Schumer removed the mask

https://tinyurl.com/559vjbuu

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:36 AM (bboj0)

107 Good morning!

>>Butch and Suni will be coming home on SpaceX's Crew Dragon, after tests of another Starliner module showed similar but not identical failures in the attitude control thrusters.

Gee, I guess the US Justice Dept. can't put Musk out of business until after he saves our astronauts?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 25, 2024 07:36 AM (Pijte)

108 The Cooper's hawk is back.

I watched a gray squirrel play chicken with it.

That is one bold little rodent.

Posted by: fluffy at August 25, 2024 07:37 AM (86W+h)

109 Fountainview Academy students sing an old time hymn, "Have Thine own way, Lord":

https://tinyurl.com/3su999kc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2024 07:38 AM (dTTBf)

110 His arrest is a huge deal.
He caught the FBI trying to recruit an engineer to insert a backdoor for them to spy on all messages.
They also created multiple fake accounts to go after any anti-Covid Vax folks.

I'm certain the Harris-Biden regime ordered his arrest.

Note well: Telegram is a big way most crypto folks communicate. Trump has been getting a huge amount of crypto donations.
Harris has not.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 25, 2024 07:40 AM (fCvil)

111 94 Mostly dead is still partly alive.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at August 25, 2024 07:23 AM (BLOW1)

Sounds like me. My first job was working on a 60s era IBM 1800 with all of 64kb of memory, little rings.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 07:41 AM (cuRsD)

112 Also note the CIA's pet, Facebook, 1st thing they did when they bought WhatsApp was remove end-to-end encryption.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 25, 2024 07:42 AM (fCvil)

113 Fuck all that other shit, let Space Daddy handle it all.

Agreed. But they can't, because he's an existential threat to the fake gay Wizard of Oz running most of the West. Starlink could in theory bypass the entire existing Internet infrastructure for its customers and *really* fuck up the US and UK's governments' ability to censor everything.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 25, 2024 07:42 AM (NqGS/)

114 A story of kindness from the "Sunny Skyz" site:

Thank you to the lovely gentleman who treated 5 unknown ladies to brunch this morning!

I met up at our local coffeeshop with 4 friends. We had a good catch-up after not seeing each other for a few months and didn't speak to any others apart from the lady who took our orders.

When we went up to pay we were told a man had paid our bill as he had overheard us talking about a birthday.

Thank you kind sir for a lovely surprise and making our day!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2024 07:45 AM (dTTBf)

115 94 Mostly dead is still partly alive.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at August 25, 2024 07:23 AM (BLOW1)

hahahaha
Come for the tech, hang around for the grammar!

Posted by: m at August 25, 2024 07:45 AM (64Zez)

116 >>Rumble's CEO escaped by the skin of his teeth:

https://tinyurl.com/349c9ttp


What's sad is that they don't think the US will protect our citizens and free speech. Who's in charge in DC that would stop them, who would say: "Return our citizen now or else!" like Trump did?

Hell, a lot of them would help them: "Please! Remove this pesky social media platform that is getting in the way of our awful candidate being "elected."

Posted by: Lizzy at August 25, 2024 07:47 AM (Pijte)

117 106 This needs to be passed on to US voters who still have half a brain:

Chuck Schumer removed the mask

https://tinyurl.com/559vjbuu
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:36 AM (bboj0)

If Schumer eliminates the filibuster, he can pack the SCOTUS, and rewrite the constitution. Bye bye bill of rights.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 07:47 AM (Y1w6t)

118 Morning peeps

Back in the early - mid 90s while working for the Treasury we went about replacing our mainframe. As the old one was being removed the computer room floor under it collapsed, and the system dropped about 18 inches to the concrete slab under the raised floor. Took them about 2 days to figure out how to remove it.

Quite the spectacle. Being a PC/server tech at the time me and my crew snickered for days about that.

Anyway, it's amazing that something the size of a small bus with that computing power is now basically in every smart phone.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 25, 2024 07:47 AM (Q4IgG)

119
I must say, I'm getting into this space shit again, thanks to Space Daddy. Of Space Daddy, I'm impressed in terms of you, know doing shit, vs the cost of doing said shit.

The Mighty F-1 engines of the first stage of the Saturn V, Werner Von Braun's PaperCiip baby, the greatest rocket ever flown, (pbuh) bar none.

That sucker, in today's dollars cost about 115 million dollars per engine. Two Saturn V first stages. 10 F-1s, about 2 billion today's dollars. Mind-blowing expense.

Now, figure the dollars per thrust. F-1s pretty damned expensive there. Space Shuttle main engine, RS-25, even worse by a long shot, which current law mandates be used for the SLS to the Moon again.

Well, Space Daddy's efforts, blow that all away in terms of dollars per thrust. Ain't no comparison.

Anybody with any sense, let Space Daddy do the whole damned thing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 07:49 AM (w6EFb)

120
Thank you kind sir for a lovely surprise and making our day!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 25, 2024 07:45 AM (dTTBf)

Such a good story. I'm happy for you ladies.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 07:50 AM (Y1w6t)

121 >>His arrest is a huge deal.
He caught the FBI trying to recruit an engineer to insert a backdoor for them to spy on all messages.
They also created multiple fake accounts to go after any anti-Covid Vax folks.

I'm certain the Harris-Biden regime ordered his arrest.
- - - -

And there it is.
We're the bad guys, our government is.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 25, 2024 07:51 AM (Pijte)

122 Good morning morons

Is Tehran burning?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 25, 2024 07:52 AM (RIvkX)

123 Good morning good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 25, 2024 07:52 AM (WXNFJ)

124 113 the fake gay Wizard of Oz running most of the West
Posted by: Ian S. at August 25, 2024 07:42 AM (NqGS/)

I don't know who is meant here.

Posted by: m at August 25, 2024 07:53 AM (64Zez)

125 Back in 1981, we were given a tour of CUNY's mainframe hall. For this first time, we actually saw what all the different component "boxes" looked like: the CPU, the controllers, the disk drives, the uber laser printer and more.

But there was one big box that fascinated us all because of its numerous and unusual switches, knobs, meters and indicators. We finally asked our guide what it was.

"That's the air conditioning system."

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:53 AM (bboj0)

126 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 25, 2024 07:53 AM (u82oZ)

127 I don't know who is meant here.
Posted by: m at August 25, 2024 07:53 AM (64Zez)

All of them.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 07:54 AM (0eaVi)

128 Good morning morons

Is Tehran burning?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 25, 2024 07:52 AM (RIvkX)
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Just the opposite:

https://tinyurl.com/4taaw6nm

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:55 AM (bboj0)

129 40 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at August 25, 2024 05:57 AM (VdhcA)

yep

Posted by: m at August 25, 2024 07:56 AM (64Zez)

130 It isn't "disinformation" that they want to censor, otherwise the entire Democratic Party criminal enterprise would be in Super Max for their non-stop "disinformation", lies, smears, hate-speech, scams and cons that they run 24/7.

When reading about the history of coffee, the beverage was banned a lot, mostly the coffee houses where it was served and particularly the merchants who ran the coffee houses.

The chief reason why coffee was banned by so many different governments is because of the coffee house where people would meet and bitch about how bad the government is, and now had the Liquid Motivation in order to do something about it.

The information that government must censor is the information that would lead to their overthrow. It is better for them if you are in chains so that they can continue to lord over others and plunder at will.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 25, 2024 07:56 AM (0Y1Ss)

131 Anyway, it's amazing that something the size of a small bus with that computing power is now basically in every smart phone.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Remember when the IBM Engineer would bring in an additional 1M (yes, 1 MB) of storage and we'd all ooh and aah as if it was the Holy Grail?

Posted by: Tonypete at August 25, 2024 07:56 AM (WXNFJ)

132
Anybody with any sense, let Space Daddy do the whole damned thing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 07:49 AM


damn straight

in a perfect world, Trump's inaugural address would include a JFK-esque line "...by the end of this decade, we will land a man on Mars and return him safely to Earth..."

then turn to Elon and say "LFG!!!"

in a perfect world

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 25, 2024 07:57 AM (tljrc)

133 I love Cherries Jubilee. Also Winter White Chocolate.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 25, 2024 07:58 AM (RIvkX)

134 I love Cherries Jubilee.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I caught her show at the Kitty Kat Club years ago. It may have been at the Joy Time Touching Studio.

Hmmmmm. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 25, 2024 07:59 AM (WXNFJ)

135 I love Cherries Jubilee. Also Winter White Chocolate.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 25, 2024 07:58 AM (RIvkX)

Gotta get through Pumpkin Spice season first.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:00 AM (0eaVi)

136 "Because that seems pretty chilling on the face of things".
Well you were told, you were warned. But, you were certain that, that could never happen in the west. Well ? How about now ?
Idiots, clueless, ignorant idiots. Bet you can presume a lot about clowns like this, and be correct. Good grief.

Posted by: Edward at August 25, 2024 08:03 AM (93DJn)

137 80 That's what they want you to believe....
Posted by: Maybe at August 25, 2024 07:07 AM (0eaVi)
-

It was moon Nazis with a laser beam.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 25, 2024 07:10 AM (bboj0)

Moon Nazis with sharks with laser beams.

Posted by: m at August 25, 2024 08:04 AM (64Zez)

138 What is also impressive with Spacex is their continuous improvement of their rocket engines. The 3rd generation of the Raptor engine is amazing. Metal 3D printing, it is much simpler design, more powerful than prior generations and reusable. A thing of beauty.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:05 AM (2AW7/)

139 The records show the Secret Service, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), demands that 12 percent of its workforce be composed of “persons with disabilities,” and that it is the policy of the Secret Service to provide equal employment opportunity without regard to such non-merit factors as “disability (physical or mental).”

Butler PA was a choice!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 25, 2024 08:06 AM (gbOdA)

140 Tucker interview Pavel Durov in April. It's worth watching.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 25, 2024 08:06 AM (MoKe9)

141
All I'll say is that I think Space Daddy, if let go to the fullest of his ability, will, be known as:

Elon I, by the Grace of God, of the Planet Mars and His other Solar System Realms and Dominions, god-emperor. Defender of the Speech.

His palace will be at Cydonia (you know, the woo-woo Face on Mars, per Dick Hoagland, Art Bell All-Star (pbuh)).

The Face on Mars will be Elon I, when it's all said and one. With an all-girl Praetorian Guard, looking all hot and shit with light-sabers.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at August 25, 2024 08:07 AM (w6EFb)

142 132 Anyway, it's amazing that something the size of a small bus with that computing power is now basically in every smart phone.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Remember when the IBM Engineer would bring in an additional 1M (yes, 1 MB) of storage and we'd all ooh and aah as if it was the Holy Grail?
Posted by: Tonypete at August 25, 2024 07:56 AM (WXNFJ)

After college I started working on IBM System 38 and System 36. The S/36 had a 64k max program size. I was working on IBM Mapics ERP software. The purchase order entry program took 25 hours to compile.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:08 AM (2AW7/)

143 Regarding Patton, my wife's uncle was there and saw the accident. He said it was NOT an accident.

Posted by: cicero skip at August 25, 2024 08:10 AM (62wAR)

144 Hungary and Poland seem to have leader who are not autocratic, but even in England expressing the wrong opinion can get you arrested.
Posted by: JM in Ill

Amen to that. We just got back - the entire time there we were bombarded by signs and placards urging us to rat each other out for real AND imagined slights. cctv equipment is everywhere. And, oddly enough, all depictions of criminals on said posters are white, English folks - in some cases, old white ladies. None of the scum they invited in.

I was much relieved to return home.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 25, 2024 08:11 AM (WXNFJ)

145 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 08:11 AM (fwDg9)

146 > But there was one big box that fascinated us all because of its numerous and unusual switches, knobs, meters and indicators. We finally asked our guide what it was.

"That's the air conditioning system."
--------
Perhaps THE single most important piece of kit in the whole room.

The Treasury facility I was at had 3 separate units. Those got a lot of attention. Once the computers, servers, whatever were up and running most of the "work" on them was done remotely.

Although, I do recall that every rack for the systems had a monitor and keyboard hooked up to a KVM switch. In my day, that was a CRT monitor... probably green.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 25, 2024 08:13 AM (Q4IgG)

147 83
Patton seemed to feel it wasn't an accident before he died. Mark Felton has a vid. Probably because he advocated for a continuation of the war by attacking the Russians. The reds in the gov't couldn't allow that.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 07:13 AM (0eaVi)

And what a different (better IMHO) world it would be if Patton was turned loose.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:14 AM (2AW7/)

148 I was much relieved to return home.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 25, 2024 08:11 AM (WXNFJ)

Fail Britannia, it's underneath the waves
Britons now will ever be slaves.

Edit to song.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:14 AM (0eaVi)

Posted by: Don Black at August 25, 2024 08:15 AM (/7KEl)

150 As goes Europe, so goes the USA. I'm (barely) under 60, but am thoroughly convinced in my lifetime we'll be fighting another war in Europe before I breathe my last.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:16 AM (2AW7/)

151 As goes Europe, so goes the USA. I'm (barely) under 60, but am thoroughly convinced in my lifetime we'll be fighting another war in Europe before I breathe my last.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:16 AM (2AW7/)

With 'em, or agin 'em?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:17 AM (0eaVi)

152 151 As goes Europe, so goes the USA. I'm (barely) under 60, but am thoroughly convinced in my lifetime we'll be fighting another war in Europe before I breathe my last.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:16 AM (2AW7/)

We're a bit undermanned in our armed forces, aren't we?

Posted by: m at August 25, 2024 08:18 AM (64Zez)

153 With 'em, or agin 'em?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:17 AM (0eaVi)

Considering their immigration policies - "agin 'em".

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:20 AM (2AW7/)

154
Disclaimer: Your mainframe so fat...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM
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Really good one Pixy.

(I'm late to this thread - slept when I was abandoned to the wiles of an empty ONT - I don't recognize you people anymore).

Posted by: Ciampino - I don't recognize you people anymore #01 at August 25, 2024 08:20 AM (qfLjt)

155 We're a bit undermanned in our armed forces, aren't we?
Posted by: m at August 25, 2024 08:18 AM (64Zez)

Illegal immigrants + military service = citizenship

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:21 AM (2AW7/)

156
As goes Europe, so goes the USA. I'm (barely) under 60, but am thoroughly convinced in my lifetime we'll be fighting another war in Europe before I breathe my last.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:16 AM


the way things are going, it's not inconceivable that we'll be fighting a war against europe in our lifetimes

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 25, 2024 08:21 AM (tljrc)

157 (I'm late to this thread - slept when I was abandoned to the wiles of an empty ONT - I don't recognize you people anymore).
Posted by: Ciampino - I don't recognize you people anymore #01 at August 25, 2024 08:20 AM (qfLjt)

Don't blame me, I left a couple of hours in.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:21 AM (0eaVi)

158 Halloween candy is already in the grocery stores.

Posted by: dantesed at August 25, 2024 08:23 AM (Oy/m2)

159 Your mainframe so fat...

It needs a bus for it's bus?

All it's chips are made of potatoes?

Posted by: fd at August 25, 2024 08:24 AM (vFG9F)

160 127 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 25, 2024 07:53 AM (u82oZ)

Tougher to do each day, but you offer wise words. Thanks.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 08:25 AM (01k9a)

161 > Halloween candy is already in the grocery stores.
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Lowes/Home Depot already have decorations out.

(And I note the Christmas stuff is on the floor, but not yet on display)

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 25, 2024 08:26 AM (Q4IgG)

162 Halloween candy is already in the grocery stores.
Posted by: dantesed at August 25, 2024 08:23 AM (Oy/m2)

It shows up at the tail end of Back to School.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:26 AM (0eaVi)

163 Pavel Durov sounds like an NHL'er who got a major penalty and is now in the box.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 25, 2024 08:27 AM (KAi1n)

164 In 30 years we’ll be forced to track French and British subs the way we used to track Soviet ones, and for the same reason.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at August 25, 2024 08:27 AM (Y8lzz)

165 JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate

We need happy warriors. Which town or city will be the first to light up a Hamas rally?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 25, 2024 08:27 AM (u82oZ)

166 In 30 years we’ll be forced to track French and British subs the way we used to track Soviet ones, and for the same reason.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at August 25, 2024 08:27 AM (Y8lzz)

Do they even have any that are operational?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:28 AM (0eaVi)

167 We need happy warriors. Which town or city will be the first to light up a Hamas rally?

Posted by: NaCly Dog

Wartburg or Sparta Tennessee are pretty likely candidates.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 25, 2024 08:28 AM (WXNFJ)

168 Nigel West Dickens

I still shake my head at the many that don't realize the US of A is the worst baddie on the planet.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 25, 2024 08:28 AM (u82oZ)

169
Halloween candy is already in the grocery stores.

Posted by: dantesed at August 25, 2024 08:23 AM

It shows up at the tail end of Back to School.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:26 AM


back to school shows up around 3:30 PM on Independence Day...

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 25, 2024 08:29 AM (tljrc)

170 Liberal - "I hate Trump! I'm moving to Canada!"
No, we're shipping you to Europe. Flat rate.

Posted by: look whats not at August 25, 2024 08:29 AM (nakGR)

171 I still shake my head at the many that don't realize the US of A is the worst baddie on the planet.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 25, 2024 08:28 AM (u82oZ)

Suggested edit: the US government is....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:29 AM (0eaVi)

172 > In 30 years we’ll be forced to track French and British subs the way we used to track Soviet ones, and for the same reason.
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The odds are probably better that England or France would nuke us over some censorship issue before Russia would over a real, geopolitical one.

And probably in a lot less than 30 years.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 25, 2024 08:30 AM (Q4IgG)

173 look whats not

Ya move to Canada and you are killed by the Canadian government. Who knew a hangnail leads to suicide?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 25, 2024 08:31 AM (u82oZ)

174 Those of you who visited the kittens (Ciampino's Kittens) via the online stream (not currently) may remember a large brown cardboard box on the bed. It is now on the floor absolutely flattened and we didn't see it happen. It must have fallen on the floor (as it did a couple of times in the past) and then they used it as a landing pad when jumping from the bed. It must have been hilarious when it first started to collapse.

Posted by: Ciampino - Non riconosco pił voialtri #02 at August 25, 2024 08:31 AM (qfLjt)

175 back to school shows up around 3:30 PM on Independence Day...
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 25, 2024 08:29 AM (tljrc)

I never once set foot on school grounds until after Labor Day. Now, some places start in late July and early August.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:31 AM (0eaVi)

176 OrangeEnt

I accept your cogent correction.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 25, 2024 08:31 AM (u82oZ)

177 We ARE undermanned, thanks to the incessant social/political engineering that has been inflicted on our military. The military needs to be purged of that malignant influence immediately.

It hurts greatly to see an organization I served so proudly in debased so badly by what I regard as scum.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at August 25, 2024 08:33 AM (hKoQL)

178 @174/Ciampino: The cats have tired of that box, and demand another for their amusement.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 25, 2024 08:33 AM (O7YUW)

179 Some guy build a "fort" out of cardboard boxes for his cat. Called it "Fort Asshole." Do a web search for the name and I'm pretty sure you'll find some photos of it.

Amusing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 25, 2024 08:38 AM (Q4IgG)

180 Thanks for the good morning. I'm going for my walk, to smile and be happy.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at August 25, 2024 08:38 AM (o2Xk8)

181 178 @174/Ciampino: The cats have tired of that box, and demand another for their amusement.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 25, 2024 08:33 AM (O7YUW)

Speaking of which, my two got awful quiet all of the sudden. They (tabby and maine coon) are overdue for their morning zoomies.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:39 AM (2AW7/)

182 Fort Asshole for cats:

https://tinyurl.com/mnvsbh9n

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:40 AM (2AW7/)

183 My cat Allie is attempting to intervene in the Sunday Morning Book Thread by plopping herself down on my open book so I can't read it.

Fortunately, I have other books...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 25, 2024 08:41 AM (BpYfr)

184 As goes Europe, so goes the USA. I'm (barely) under 60, but am thoroughly convinced in my lifetime we'll be fighting another war in Europe before I breathe my last.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 25, 2024 08:16 AM (2AW7/)
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Another war?

Posted by: Ukraine at August 25, 2024 08:41 AM (Nzrqz)

185 At least here in America, censorship remains controversial. Europe, the Aussies (and NZ) and Canada, support it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 25, 2024 08:44 AM (Nzrqz)

186 Fortunately, I have other books...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 25, 2024 08:41 AM (BpYfr)

Speaking of that, I have something stewing in the back of my mind for the BT. Maybe take a few days to figure out. I'll email you if it works.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:44 AM (0eaVi)

187 Technological advances, and indeed progress itself are killed by censorship. Ideology over merit has never worked well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 25, 2024 08:45 AM (u82oZ)

188 172 > In 30 years we’ll be forced to track French and British subs the way we used to track Soviet ones, and for the same reason.”

In 30 years the French and British will barely have the ability to build oxcarts, much less subs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 25, 2024 08:46 AM (S6gqv)

189 Speaking of that, I have something stewing in the back of my mind for the BT. Maybe take a few days to figure out. I'll email you if it works.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 25, 2024 08:44 AM (0eaVi)
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Sure. I look forward to it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 25, 2024 08:48 AM (BpYfr)

190 Tom Servo

But sharp knives for knife attacks; they will have plenty.

Crew serviced, belt-fed, firearms are the real answer for Zerg rushes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 25, 2024 08:48 AM (u82oZ)

191 Cat Crazy can happen at a moments notice

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 08:48 AM (fwDg9)

192 Halloween candy is already in the grocery stores.


Ahh, sugar. the most addictive drug and silent killer.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 25, 2024 08:55 AM (0Y1Ss)

193 Grab your reading glasses and head upstairs
BOOK NOOD

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 09:00 AM (fwDg9)

194
In times of yore, I maintained SGI Onyx and Onyx2, at post production houses, these are computers the size of refrigerators, with whopping 250mhz of processing power, 4gb of ram.

My watch has more horsepower than this.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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The graphics were pretty awesome on those as I recall. I worked a contract putting those together for a convoy driving simulator. We would climb in the drivers' seats and play death match doom on them during lunch. Got busted by the vice president and then had to make room for him to play too.

Posted by: BifBewalski at August 25, 2024 09:05 AM (MsrgL)

195 >>>Do tell, Mr. Lawson.

"It's OK when we do it."

Fucking hypocrites.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 25, 2024 11:51 AM (i24o9)

196 My freshman year, university installed a 7070 (predecessor of 7090) . The next year I leaned Fortran by having programs I wrote rejected by its compiler. It used Hollerith cards.
A few years later, in the real world, I wrote a Fortran that ran on a Univac 1190 to analyze equalization circuits... using Hollerith cards. When the company transfered all their archived programs onto mag tapes, I retrieved the deck with that program.
I used them as bookmarks. It took years to run out.

Posted by: buddhaha at August 25, 2024 08:06 PM (VoS8E)

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