The Assassin Stashed His Gun Near the Trump Rally Before Retrieving It To Take His Shot, and the Secret Service Failed to Find It When They Did Their Insecure Security Sweep

Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old would-be assassin who opened fire on former President Donald Trump's Pennsylvania campaign rally Saturday, hid the weapon in advance, according to a Secret Service source.
It was not immediately clear where he hid it, however. By the time agents spotted him on the roof, he was already holding it.
"We went from golf range finder to AR-15, and now we have to fill in the gap," the source told Fox News.
When authorities first observed Crooks carrying a golf range finder Saturday, he was perceived as a "person of interest" but not a "threat," authorities said Thursday.
Range finders were not banned from rally events at the time, but authorities are expected to review the list of items that are not allowed.
He did not become an official threat until he was seen with a weapon.
There were four counter-sniper teams stationed around the rally, according to the Secret Service -- two from the agency and two provided by local law enforcement.

Of the four teams, two opened fire, one local and one from the Service. A federal sharpshooter fatally struck the gunman seconds after the gunfire erupted.

Seconds after.

When you need Secret Service protection, help is only a few seconds (or 62 minutes) away.

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Authorities have spent much of the week pointing fingers about who was responsible for securing the AGR building, from where Crooks opened fire.

And covering it up.

Look at Fox News -- not quite sure if Trump was hit by a bullet, or only "said" he had been hit.

Trump later said he had been shot in the right ear, and photos from the scene showed him getting back to his feet after ducking for cover with blood on the right side of his head.

He only "said" he'd been shot? Are you harboring some doubts about this Convenient Story, FoxNews?

You know there's an entire BlueAnon conspiracy theory claiming he wasn't really hit?

Why is the "fair and balanced alternative" FoxNews also playing footsie with the BlueAnon conspiracy theorists?

You know why.

Butler Township Manager Tom Knights gives a full account of his officer’s encounter when he witnessed Thomas Crooks point a gun at his face, he ducked and was injured. The question still remains. Why didn’t anyone radio to remove Trump from the podium? pic.twitter.com/gBpAQZeI0C
— Scott Adams (@scottadamsshow) July 17, 2024

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:45 PM

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1 Apparently they did not conduct a proper security sweep.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2024 03:46 PM (QNSds)

2 Someone has to get the first word. Word!

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 19, 2024 03:46 PM (P7Iz+)

3 And that may have been neglected on purpose.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2024 03:46 PM (QNSds)

4 1st

Posted by: GF at July 19, 2024 03:47 PM (tUCgX)

5 Speaking of the shoot - Do we know when the one picture they are circulating of him is actually from? It looks like its several years old at least.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at July 19, 2024 03:47 PM (fgmuN)

6 It keeps getting worse...

Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened at July 19, 2024 03:48 PM (fPqbS)

7 The stench of this is just getting worse.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 19, 2024 03:48 PM (qZEuM)

8 Now you would think the female agents would be good at this job of finding things. We spend most of our lives finding lost items for our families who are incapable of it, even if the lost thing is RIGHT THERE!

I mean, umm, easily found.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2024 03:48 PM (p4NUW)

9 "Security"

Posted by: huerfano at July 19, 2024 03:49 PM (VGOMa)

10 I had involved in some former president visits.
SS would have brush and shrubbery cut back to eliminate places where bad stuff can be conceiled.

DHS / TSA third rate crotch grabbers subbed in at the last minute would not know little details like that.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 03:50 PM (cOq4q)

11 “the Secret Service Failed to Find It”

Disguised it as a pipe bomb

Posted by: Oglebay at July 19, 2024 03:50 PM (7fVdQ)

12 It's nearing 1700 HRS EST on a Friday. Should be a few more whoppers then.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 19, 2024 03:50 PM (qZEuM)

13 There is never accountability with DEI.

Diversity if the END. It's effect on actual output is unimportant.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 19, 2024 03:50 PM (JMAcK)

14 An AR-15 practically fits in your wallet. Just another coincidence. Can't blame the SS.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 19, 2024 03:50 PM (Z8Yh2)

15 Do we know when the one picture they are circulating of him is actually from? It looks like its several years old at least.
Posted by: Ryan Frank

The MSM only publishes pictures of choir boys and boy scouts.
It doesn't matter what they look like just before they were killed trying to murder someone.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2024 03:50 PM (wNbrz)

16 Secret Service Failed to Find It
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It was probably on a shelf.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2024 03:50 PM (8s2gn)

17 >> Now you would think the female agents would be good at this job of finding things.

I wouldn't bet on them finding a tampon and I'd be willing to spot them the string.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 03:51 PM (jrzt5)

18 Not sure if it was Tom Knights or another local official but there was an interview in the last couple of days that the locals did put out a call on the open tactical channel at least 10 seconds before shots were fired.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 19, 2024 03:51 PM (Y8lzz)

19 Yes, all this so we can achieve "unity" with the left.

So. Much. Horseshit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2024 03:51 PM (Q4IgG)

20 You would think security personnel would be extra concerned about security matters since in an attack, they are often the first targets.

Posted by: Emmie at July 19, 2024 03:51 PM (Sf2cq)

21 Butler PD is going to be given a choice really quickly. Either take a pile of grant money and shut up….or get investigated by the US Atty for the numerous “civil rights violations” you know you committed.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 19, 2024 03:51 PM (aVudl)

22 Did they ban assault ladders yet?

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 03:51 PM (EkvES)

23 Can we get to the part of the Trump dictatorship where he's disassembling these people on PPV with the latest and greatest anti-aircraft weaponry? (I read about it in the 2025 thing. It's the first bullet point after the 'Enslave the Womens' section.)

Posted by: Mike Oxlong at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (bqDim)

24 DEI is a loosely encoded message: DIE.

By their fruits, you shall know them.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (krQz2)

25 17.
I wouldn't bet on them finding a tampon and I'd be willing to spot them the string.
Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024

How loverly, Garrett. 😂

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (p4NUW)

26 Hey, anyone can SAY they were shot in the ear and slap on a big bandage...
Fox News

Posted by: steevy at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (HJ9BW)

27 *types*
*deletes*.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (2h2Wy)

28 ook at Fox News -- not quite sure if Trump was hit by a bullet, or only "said" he had been hit.

yeah, that was fake blood, amiright?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (ynpvh)

29 ace:

"Initially, it was not known that snipers were in the second-story building overlooking the Trump rally. Crooks’ body is alleged to have been on top of the building on the far right in the picture above. These snipers have not been interviewed, the details of what they saw that day have not been disclosed, nor has the fact that they would have been in plain view of Thomas Crooks for the entire time he was prone on the roof.

The snipers overlooking the body of Thomas Crooks could have just as easily walked out to the roof and stopped Crooks from shooting.

For the over thirty minutes that the public was yelling about a sniper on the roof from the ground below, the snipers apparently didn’t notice the active shooter getting into place within 20 feet of the multiple windows they were looking out of."

https://tinyurl.com/232wx8nw

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (Gakra)

30 Then Trump and his surrogates should cut straight to the chase and accuse the Biden administration of causing the assassination attempt.
They did everything they could to put Trump in jail. They provided a shit SS team. They’re not cooperative in the investigation.It all adds up.
I don’t see the downside.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (jbnUc)

31 Assassination attempt would only require four people in on the conspiracy.

It would only take four people in the know to pull this attempt off.

Jill Biden. PepsiCo/Cheeto. SS Agent on site and an FBI/CIA handler to direct the kid.

On site SS Agent would be telling the local yokels AND inexperienced SS Agents when and where to stand down.

The DEI Mall Cop replacement SS Agents wouldn't have a clue as to what was protocol.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (/NEnv)

32 Trump turning his head suddenly was the only fucking thing that went right.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (cf/0E)

33 The leftists had conspiracies within minutes. Staged. Blood pack-pill.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (YaTIT)

34 We all knew the left would try to deny the assassination attempt. Their base will 100% believe whatever the Ministry Of Truth says.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (o2ZRX)

35 You would think security personnel would be extra concerned about security matters since in an attack, they are often the first targets.
Posted by: Emmie at July 19, 2024 03:51 PM (Sf2cq)

You would think elected officials from all sides would be voicing concerns about what happened or trying to get to the bottom of it since they too rely on ss.

I wonder why Democrats don't seem particularly bothered about all these "failures".

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (8s2gn)

36 Somebody ... seriously ... call Joe Mannix. And that entire "I believe its just a big mistake and lazy" post.

Reminds me of Dave in FLA - beating the drum that even after 2020 - it wasn't fraud.

Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (1ix40)

37 Good thing the perp(s) didn't field expedite a MON-200. Or get a real one from the RUSSIAN!!1!1! Sex it up like a dish for satellite tv. F Troop assigned to Trump would be clueless.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (cOq4q)

38 You know when DJT said "my shoes " I really identified with him - that trauma moment.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (Ka3bZ)

39 Weird how the Local PC said that they were only taxed for traffic control?

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (jrzt5)

40 The question still remains. Why didn't anyone radio to remove Trump from the podium?

Because some folks wanted Trump dead. Duh.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (ynpvh)

41 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

42 I hope he got his shoes back.

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 03:54 PM (EkvES)

43 Speaking of the shoot - Do we know when the one picture they are circulating of him is actually from? It looks like its several years old at least.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at July 19, 2024 03:47 PM (fgmuN)
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I've called it his "Trayvon picture".

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 03:54 PM (krQz2)

44 Shocking...

In other news: Polio in Gaza.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2024 03:54 PM (SSLjk)

45 Posted by: nurse ratched at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (2h2Wy)

I guess I won't ask if you are sleeping any better.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2024 03:54 PM (8s2gn)

46 The BlackRock Kid probably hid it somewhere on the grounds of the building owned by a company with old and deep ties to the military inaudible complex. You know, the same building he somehow got onto the roof of, to squeeze a few off in Trump's direction.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 19, 2024 03:54 PM (SENO5)

47 This is the first time I have heard that two sniper teams engaged the shooter

CNN had a story that audio analysis showed 3 weapons fired. 3 round from weapon A, 5 rounds weapon B, one round from weapon C.

This comports with what I heard - 3 rounds, a gap, 5 rounds, then a boom.

But we don't know which is which at this point. Single shot is obviously the final sniper shot.

Posted by: blaster at July 19, 2024 03:54 PM (IFNME)

48 >> Trump turning his head suddenly was the only fucking thing that went right

God Bless Chart!

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (jrzt5)

49 16 Secret Service Failed to Find It
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DO we know it was the USSS and not the FBI?

They typically run the local operation. USSS handles the controlled area, and FBI interviews people of interest beforehand and handle the outside zine (from my understanding and recollection of past events.)

But we hear nothing from the FBI. Where they too busy deleting social media accounts beforehand to do the search?

Also, I think the parents knew. Or should have known.

Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (Fj9dJ)

50 Never attribute to malice what can be assigned to incompetence. And don't remove the fence without first asking permission. And other dumb shit that should not be repeated - and those that insist on doing so mocked until they stop speaking.

Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (1ix40)

51 >>> 10 I had involved in some former president visits.
SS would have brush and shrubbery cut back to eliminate places where bad stuff can be conceiled.

DHS / TSA third rate crotch grabbers subbed in at the last minute would not know little details like that.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 03:50 PM (cOq4q)

You'd think they'd have some paper with words on it or something, so everyone would know what to do and do it the same every time.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (VavZF)

52 hid the weapon in advance, according to a Secret Service source.
It was not immediately clear where he hid it, however. By the time agents spotted him on the roof, he was already holding it.

"We went from golf range finder to AR-15, and now we have to fill in the gap," the source told Fox News.
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So just to be clear we are assuming that he stashed the weapon somewhere on site ahead of time because he was seen without it, then seen with it.

There's no other possible explanation for how that happened?

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (Dnobf)

53 I had involved in some former president visits.
SS would have brush and shrubbery cut back to eliminate places where bad stuff can be concealed.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Bushes being cut back is SOP these days.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (WXNFJ)

54 It was hidden inside a cow on the sloped roof!

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (I0/es)

55 So most of the shots were teturn fire.

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (EkvES)

56 The media will always show a school picture.

Instead of the hardened gang banger mug shot with the grill and tats.

Media Delenda Est.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (SSLjk)

57 "military-industrial complex" @46, of course. They never rest.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (SENO5)

58
It would only take four people in the know to pull this attempt off.

Jill Biden. PepsiCo/Cheeto. SS Agent on site and an FBI/CIA handler to direct the kid.

On site SS Agent would be telling the local yokels AND inexperienced SS Agents when and where to stand down.

The DEI Mall Cop replacement SS Agents wouldn't have a clue as to what was protocol.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (/NEnv)
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Except, there was the shorting of stock that would have plummetted with the death of Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (krQz2)

59 Butler Township Manager Tom Knights gives a full account of his officer’s encounter when he witnessed Thomas Crooks point a gun at his face, he ducked and was injured. The question still remains. Why didn’t anyone radio to remove Trump from the podium?

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And they confirmed that they were in constant contact. From a link posted last night where they were bellyaching and trying to gain sympathy:

"'You'd have to have one of our people embedded with the Secret Service so they could communicate what we were receiving and seeing. We'd have somebody standing beside their boss at their headquarters, relaying information.'"

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Cops hit out at being 'thrown under the bus' by Secret Service

https://mol.im/a/13644937
Posted by: Ciampino

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (Gakra)

60 USSS Spotter: I think I see a nut with a gun.

USSS District Leader: Bold strategy, Cotten. Let's see how it plays out for an hour or so.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (wBaIH)

61 A golf range finder is a device for measuring within-a-yard distance to a target. Should have been confiscated, and the kid should have been pulled aside for questioning.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (wzAuc)

62 @7

>>The stench of this is just getting worse.

Out: Banana In The Tail Pipe

In: AR15 Hidden Behind The Arborvitae.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (XV/Pl)

63 So just to be clear we are assuming that he stashed the weapon somewhere on site ahead of time because he was seen without it, then seen with it.

There's no other possible explanation for how that happened?

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (Dnobf)

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Amazon Drone Delivery?

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (I0/es)

64 We need to robots with the three laws installed as our protective overlords

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (Zf6jY)

65 There is always Malicious Incompetence.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2024 03:57 PM (SSLjk)

66 UGH!!! MY ears!!! Who is the disgusting skank hag questioning the city manager.. UGH !!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 03:57 PM (o3Uyl)

67 Never attribute to malice what can be assigned to incompetence.
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Like the lab "leak", the Russia hoax, the laptop, the Ukraine payments...

Yeah I think that theory has a date with history.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2024 03:57 PM (8s2gn)

68 If Trump hadn't forced the SS agents to let him take a few seconds to show the crowd that he wasn't seriously injured, would he have "tragically died on the way to the hospital"?

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at July 19, 2024 03:57 PM (5IFb9)

69 He probably hid it in a giant wooden badger.

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 03:57 PM (EkvES)

70
The tapes were accidentally overwritten.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2024 03:58 PM (1Nxff)

71 Or that Trump cut his ear like a WWE performer.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 03:58 PM (YaTIT)

72 Epstein hung himself ... on a bunk bed at least six inches shorter than he was.

Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 03:58 PM (1ix40)

73 Now you would think the female agents would be good at this job of finding things. We spend most of our lives finding lost items for our families who are incapable of it, even if the lost thing is RIGHT THERE!

"Honey, have you seen my rifle?"

"Where do you last have it?"

"I dunno. Somewhere around here."

"It's right there." *points*

"Oh. Thanks."

"Sheesh."

Posted by: Oddbob at July 19, 2024 03:58 PM (/y8xj)

74 Reminds me of Dave in FLA - beating the drum that even after 2020 - it wasn't fraud.
Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (1ix40)

You should get back on your anti-psychotics.

Because Dave in Fla has always said 2020 was fraud.

Posted by: C'mon at July 19, 2024 03:58 PM (JghT2)

75 You know who doesn't get fired?

People who do their jobs.

Perhaps some don't realize what the mission was.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at July 19, 2024 03:58 PM (bILdU)

76 Gonna find out he had the gun sitting on a Cosco table out in the open for 3 days.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (evvc2)

77 When Trump regains the presidency he should declassify and publish the remaining JFK assassination files. That would stir up some shit. With the ground then properly prepared blow up the FBI and Intel. agencies.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (WsTZq)

78 >>> 58

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Except, there was the shorting of stock that would have plummetted with the death of Trump.
Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (krQz2)

That was a MISTAKE by the CINCINNATI OFFICE!!!

Posted by: Austin Private Wealth at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (VavZF)

79 Just listened to the Lotus Eaters. Carl Benjamin said to us Americans "We suck, but you Americans are doing great."

Posted by: Eeyore at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (1bNHn)

80 USSS Spotter: I think I see a nut with a gun.

USSS District Leader: Bold strategy, Cotten. Let's see how it plays out for an hour or so.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (wBaIH)

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"In the meantime, get me a lawyer in The Pentagon to consult with on the ROE in this situation ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (I0/es)

81 that Trump cut his ear like a WWE performer.
————

HULK HOGAN WAS AT THE RNC!!!! COINCIDENCE!?!?!?

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (Y8lzz)

82 Epstein hung himself ... on a bunk bed at least six inches shorter than he was.
Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 03:58 PM (1ix40)
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It's why he made sure his feet were on the bunk.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (krQz2)

83 Someone here said almost immediately that the shooter probably hid a weapon prior. Smart mil blog we got here!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (Vvh2V)

84
"I mean, if we prevented Trump from getting on the stage every time we saw a 'suspicious person' at one of his rallies, he'd never have a rally again."

- - - - USSS

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)

85 It would only take four people in the know to pull this attempt off.

Jill Biden. PepsiCo/Cheeto. SS Agent on site and an FBI/CIA handler to direct the kid.

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Why Jill? Why would you want her to know anything?

Posted by: SFGoth at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (KAi1n)

86 22 Did they ban assault ladders yet?
Posted by: Genius

Assault ladders are actually a thing....
Knew a green beanie who had one cut too long. Things didn't go as planned. But he liived through it so it's all good.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (cOq4q)

87 Why would he be taking ranges from anywhere but the roof?

That's not how you do it.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (jrzt5)

88
Perhaps some don't realize what the mission was.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at July 19, 2024 03:58 PM (bILdU)

__________

Going home safe at the end of the day.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (1Nxff)

89
HULK HOGAN WAS AT THE RNC!!!! COINCIDENCE!?!?!?
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (Y8lzz)

He should've invited Evander Holyfield, then.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)

90 So was it the kid on the slopy knoll or the guy on the water depository?

Posted by: Seven Ways from Sunday at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (qUkBO)

91 The media will always show a school picture.

Instead of the hardened gang banger mug shot with the grill and tats.

Media Delenda Est.
Posted by: Anna Puma

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Or the tranny one in my name field that is likely why ALL of his social media was immediately scrubbed after the shooting. Possibly shortly before.

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (Gakra)

92 >Posted by: Piper

Kid (or husband): Mommmm! I can't find the thing!

Mom: Did you look for it?

Kid: Yeah, I looked everywhere for it.

Mom: proceeds to find the thing directly in front of* the kid.
*or in the place that Mom said it would be but Kid did not look

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 19, 2024 04:01 PM (NMT5x)

93 You know, if only the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party would put this sort of effort into finding out what the party bosses are going to do with the demented husk they've got propped in the corner as their candidate.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2024 04:01 PM (Q4IgG)

94 Because Dave in Fla has always said 2020 was fraud.

Posted by: C'mon at July 19, 2024 03:58 PM (JghT2)

Bullshit. He not only shouted down anyone, prior to 2020, who even suggested five points of fraud were possible ... he came out guns blazing immediately after about how Trump lost in a few key demographics in a few key areas.

Because Dave loved elections like old ball players love their sport. They'll always tell you "can't let the official decide the game". No matter how blatant the ump decides the game.

Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 04:01 PM (1ix40)

95 People sleep with a pillow over their face all the time.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (8s2gn)

96 47 This is the first time I have heard that two sniper teams engaged the shooter

CNN had a story that audio analysis showed 3 weapons fired. 3 round from weapon A, 5 rounds weapon B, one round from weapon C.
Posted by: blaster a

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They have always been very vague but said that on like day 2. The second, local team appears to have been sitting around and not in any position. Only the USSS teams were on the two roofs in photos we have all seen as far as I can tell.
It is possible one was in the water tower though.

On the 3 gun theory, that comes from a guy who did an audio analysis, but the analysis is total crap. He claims the one gun was in the window based on angles and heights that he guesses at, and on one tape the second gun sounds very different, but he doesn't seem to notice that the phone which recorded it is walking around and he is picking up reflections because it turned. It is total crap, so just what you expect on internet and CNN

Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (Fj9dJ)

97 You know when DJT said "my shoes " I really identified with him - that trauma moment.
Posted by: vmom

Probably because they cost a grand.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (/NEnv)

98 We need common sense range finder laws and universal background checks. With some exemptions for current members of the PGA.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (YaTIT)

99 The stench of this is just getting worse.

Out: Banana In The Tail Pipe
Posted by: Thomas Bender

YoooHoooo!!!

Posted by: Buttigig at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (WXNFJ)

100 >>> 61 A golf range finder is a device for measuring within-a-yard distance to a target. Should have been confiscated, and the kid should have been ~~pulled aside~~ arrested and taken to the local PD station for questioning.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (wzAuc)

... or at least he'd better have some good answers, to avoid being removed from the site.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (VavZF)

101 Oh great. They can have my assault golf range finder after they pry it out of my cold dead fingers.

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (RReG+)

102 that Trump cut his ear like a WWE performer.
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HULK HOGAN WAS AT THE RNC!!!! COINCIDENCE!?!?!?
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (Y8lzz)
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Donald Trump is in the WWE Hall of Fame...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (7fElN)

103 Fox isn't sure if trump was shot. Still checking sources. But they are gonna call AZ for biden.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (evvc2)

104 150 yards is almost no glasses territory. I could do NBC range without the inserts.

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (EkvES)

105 Fox isn't sure if trump was shot. Still checking sources. But they are gonna call AZ for biden.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 19, 2024 04:02 PM (evvc2)

FAKE NEWS!!!!!

They actually called it back in May.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:03 PM (Zz0t1)

106 You know when DJT said "my shoes " I really identified with him - that trauma moment.

Posted by: vmom
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I think he might have been a little disoriented.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:03 PM (krQz2)

107 I have only seen the video with sound once. There was one woman's voice yelling "what do we do? What do we do?" I assumed that was a usss agent. Seems like maybe they were total noobs.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 19, 2024 04:03 PM (N6rB4)

108 "In the meantime, get me a lawyer in The Pentagon to consult with on the ROE in this situation ..."
Posted by: ShainS

"Uhh, we've got a call into CPT Biden, but, uhh, we'll get back to you when we hear from him."

Posted by: SFGoth at July 19, 2024 04:03 PM (KAi1n)

109 >>> 85 It would only take four people in the know to pull this attempt off.

Jill Biden. PepsiCo/Cheeto. SS Agent on site and an FBI/CIA handler to direct the kid.

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Why Jill? Why would you want her to know anything?
Posted by: SFGoth at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (KAi1n)

BECAUSE ***I*** ORDERED THE CODE ORANGE!!!!!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at July 19, 2024 04:03 PM (VavZF)

110 OMG!!!

It's real!!!

https://is.gd/vMJknn

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at July 19, 2024 04:03 PM (L/fGl)

111 Why would anyone need a golf range finder? The course is printed on the scorecard.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 19, 2024 04:04 PM (n17eQ)

112 Remind me who was supposed to replace Scalia again?

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2024 04:04 PM (8s2gn)

113 There's no other possible explanation for how that happened?

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (Dnobf)

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Amazon Drone Delivery?
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (I0/es)

I mean, how do they rule out
1) He went back to his car to get it
2) Someone gave it to him
3) Someone else stashed it there
if they don't even know where it was stashed?

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 04:04 PM (Dnobf)

114 150 yards is almost no glasses territory. I could do NBC range without the inserts.

For a head ? Yeah.

To nick an earlobe ? No way in Hell. You can't vice an AR-15 and be confident of that shot. Regardless of ammo.

Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 04:04 PM (1ix40)

115 How did they get the idea it was just one shooter so fast.

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 04:04 PM (EkvES)

116 The shooters father had reportedly called the cops on his son and had his weapon missing before the shooting.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:04 PM (o3Uyl)

117 If Trump hadn't forced the SS agents to let him take a few seconds to show the crowd that he wasn't seriously injured, would he have "tragically died on the way to the hospital"?
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge

The ol' ice pick in the ear.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 04:05 PM (cOq4q)

118 91 The media will always show a school picture.
Media Delenda Est.
Posted by: Anna Puma

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I think they decided he looks to liberal in the later photos. They want him to look like a conservative. With long hair he is either gonna look like a hippie or a queer -- either way a commie.

Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 19, 2024 04:05 PM (Fj9dJ)

119 150 yards is almost no glasses territory. I could do NBC range without the inserts.
Posted by: Genius

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I can say from experience that it's 4" barrel 9mm pistol caliber carbine with a red dot distance. It's crazy that the kid was given all the time he needed for the shot and missed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:05 PM (Gakra)

120 Except, there was the shorting of stock that would have plummetted with the death of Trump.
Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (krQz2)

I debunked this on Wed ONT.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:05 PM (JRP2U)

121 Trump turning his head suddenly was the only fucking thing that went right.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 19, 2024 03:53 PM (cf/0E)

OUT: Slipping the surly bonds of earth to touch the face of God.

IN: Slipping the surly bonds of heaven to touch the face of Man.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 19, 2024 04:05 PM (I0/es)

122 Trump left his sole in Butler.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 19, 2024 04:05 PM (evvc2)

123 Probably because they cost a grand.

I thought the kid had an AR?
Probably couldn't lift a Grand

Posted by: John C. at July 19, 2024 04:06 PM (N2oAm)

124 >> Trump turning his head suddenly was the only fucking thing that went right

God Bless Chart!
Posted by: garrett

This is literally the only time that PowerPoint has served a useful and positive purpose.

Posted by: John Drake Has Reached The Sea Of Azov at July 19, 2024 04:06 PM (tmPIh)

125 Wait until they figure out a phone can measure distance!
O
M
G
Someone tell DHS.
POO TIN can put a nuke in a pickle barrel in Kalorama!
*ducks under desk at school*
My school has a certified nuclear fallout shelter in the basement library.

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 04:07 PM (RReG+)

126 The Assassin Stashed His Gun Near the Trump Rally Before Retrieving It To Take His Shot, and the Secret Service Failed to Find It When They Did Their Insecure Security Sweep. - Ace

Wait a second: "On the day of the assassination attempt, he asked if he could borrow his father's AR-15-style rifle, saying he planned to go to a shooting range, sources said. Because Crooks' father had previously let him use the gun for target shooting, he was not suspicious that his son was planning anything of concern."

How soon before the rally the lunatic stash the gun? I have been to a couple Trump rallies and the sites were locked down tight at least 24 hours before they kicked off...none of what the Feds are saying makes any sense.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 19, 2024 04:07 PM (WsTZq)

127 150 yards is almost no glasses territory. I could do NBC range without the inserts.
Posted by: Genius

Back in my Army reserve days, everything up to 150 was a gimme. I was generally able to hit the 250s while the 300s were, literally, hit or miss. I think these were in meters not yards, IIRC, though the difference is mere inches.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 19, 2024 04:07 PM (KAi1n)

128 Because Dave in Fla has always said 2020 was fraud.

Posted by: C'mon

He may be thinking of Dave in NOLA he swore voting machines are infallable.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 04:07 PM (cOq4q)

129 OMG!!!

It's real!!!

https://is.gd/vMJknn
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at July 19, 2024 04:03 PM (L/fGl)
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Guess it's no secret I'm a big fan of Chris Plante:
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Chris Plante Show
@ChrisPlanteShow
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Fake news reporter is terrified of a travel bag. Democrat mental illness is everywhere.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:07 PM (krQz2)

130 I like to think there was an ex-SEAL sniper well hidden out there at 1000 yards, paid professional, who was supposed to take the real kill shot. Young Mr Blackrock was the patsy. But the ex-SEAL didn't pull the trigger. Moment of conscience at the last second. That's a good story.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 19, 2024 04:08 PM (SENO5)

131 vmom, I've been told by leftists that Trump wanted to keep the lifts in his shoes that make him look taller hidden.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 04:08 PM (YaTIT)

132 Now you would think the female agents would be good at this job of finding things. We spend most of our lives finding lost items for our families who are incapable of it, even if the lost thing is RIGHT THERE!

I mean, umm, easily found.
Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2024 03:48 PM (p4NUW)

Yep, just have someone say "Honey, where is my Assassin's Rifle and two or three of them would pull one out of the air.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:08 PM (eoQWY)

133 Brian in NOLA

(don't say Dominion three times)

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:08 PM (Gakra)

134 We're only in it for the money.

Posted by: Fox News at July 19, 2024 04:08 PM (nvKZ7)

135 You can't vice an AR-15 and be confident of that shot. Regardless of ammo.
Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 04:04 PM (1ix40)

I'm pretty sure Weasel is laughing at you right now.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:08 PM (Zz0t1)

136 With long hair he is either gonna look like a hippie or a queer -- either way a commie.
Posted by: PFC Obvious

Like the young guy that's registering peeps for the Repub party?

Posted by: SFGoth at July 19, 2024 04:09 PM (KAi1n)

137 110 OMG!!!

It's real!!!

https://is.gd/vMJknn
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe

Ahhhhhhh!

I really need my red hooded dress to be designer. Thanks.

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2024 04:09 PM (p4NUW)

138 128 Because Dave in Fla has always said 2020 was fraud.

Posted by: C'mon

He may be thinking of Dave in NOLA he swore voting machines are infallable.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 04:07 PM (cOq4q)

He's not thinking at all.

He's a troll.

Posted by: C'mon at July 19, 2024 04:09 PM (JghT2)

139 If he was wearing boots like RDS, they would not have fallen off.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 19, 2024 04:09 PM (evvc2)

140 Except, there was the shorting of stock that would have plummetted with the death of Trump.
Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 03:56 PM (krQz2)

I debunked this on Wed ONT.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:05 PM (JRP2U)
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I'll take a look.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:09 PM (krQz2)

141 But the ex-SEAL didn't pull the trigger. Moment of conscience at the last second. That's a good story.

In our current times ? The SEAL is a tranny, and he selfied the entire thing to take to Hollywood.

It'll be a trilogy. Slickback Sniper.

Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 04:09 PM (1ix40)

142 How did they get the idea it was just one shooter so fast.

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 04:04 PM (EkvES)

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The same way the Deep State, Junta, and MDM-MSM (BIRM thrice) always immediately conclude that we will never know a terrorist's or assassin's motive ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 19, 2024 04:10 PM (I0/es)

143
He may be thinking of Dave in NOLA he swore voting machines are infallable.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 04:07 PM (cOq4q)

I remember that guy. Every piece of evidence was circumstantial and none of it proved anything.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:10 PM (Zz0t1)

144 @126

>>How soon before the rally the lunatic stash the gun? I have been to a couple Trump rallies and the sites were locked down tight at least 24 hours before they kicked off...none of what the Feds are saying makes any sense.

A lot of this can be fleshed out with the Security Plan and RACI Matrix.

But I don't anyone, including congressmen are ever going to see that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2024 04:10 PM (XV/Pl)

145 The whole democrat party has Alzheimer's and Dementia. Put them in asylums for their own good. Its the only humanitarian thing to do...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:10 PM (o3Uyl)

146 Why would he be taking ranges from anywhere but the roof?
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Why would he be taking ranges at all? He knew where he was going to be, and where Trump was going to be, so he could estimate the range probably within a yard or two.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 19, 2024 04:10 PM (YqDXo)

147 1 Apparently they did not conduct a proper security sweep.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2024 03:46 PM (QNSds)

This is why I said crowd and sniper SS were equally culpable...and the body folks were the patsies we'd all focus on who were disposable.

There's not a peep from us about investigating those crowd and sniper SS guys...and 1+ of them has to be wildly incompetent/fired or in on it...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2024 04:10 PM (exHjb)

148 Kamala is saying that there can be no unity unless we support killing babies too.

Battle lines being drawn. Nobodies right if everybody's wrong.

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 04:10 PM (RReG+)

149 The Junta continuing its official total-silence stonewall can only mean it is having immense difficulty coming up with a BS story to spin this as "The dipshit local hillbilly Keystone Kops screwed the pooch."

So far their draft spin attempts must not be able to fool newborns.

This is the longest the Junta has maintained a total-silence stonewall for one of its fork-ups. Even the post-Afghan Army collapse total-silence stonewall lasted only 3 to 4 days.

Posted by: Gref at July 19, 2024 04:11 PM (5fDan)

150 That Trump shoe story is a croc

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2024 04:11 PM (8s2gn)

151
SS did a thorough sweep of the area, but the two SS wimmen searching the building got into a catfight the day before, arguing about the meaning of a Taylor Swift song.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 19, 2024 04:11 PM (y9nCu)

152 >>How soon before the rally the lunatic stash the gun? I have been to a couple Trump rallies and the sites were locked down tight at least 24 hours before they kicked off...none of what the Feds are saying makes any sense.

You just don't understand. This mental case 20 year old outcast was Just. That. Good.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:11 PM (Zz0t1)

153 If I’m the actual shooter, wouldn’t it be great if I could have young dweeb walk all over the place, be screened for having a range finder, be noticed for half an hour, have security watching him, have him go up on the roof, etc.?
Quite diversionary, no?

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2024 04:11 PM (CTjQI)

154 I missed last thread, I have a crazy theory that Murdering Joe Scarborough got pulled because he was going to talk about the staged shooting theory, and hat he was only pulled because they were afraid of a lawsuit.

Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 19, 2024 04:12 PM (Fj9dJ)

155 I'm pretty sure Weasel is laughing at you right now.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:08 PM (Zz0t1)

150 yards, give or take. And the idea that it's staged, within an eighth inch, to nick Trumps ear ?

Yeah ... nobody is laughing. Because nobody is that good with an AR-15. Because no AR-15 is that good. Because the .223 isn't that good.

Shoot much ? No. You don't.

Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 04:12 PM (1ix40)

156 >>But the Flex-SEAL didn't pull the trigger.

I sawed this Ear in Half!

Posted by: Phil Swift at July 19, 2024 04:12 PM (jrzt5)

157 128 Because Dave in Fla has always said 2020 was fraud.

Posted by: C'mon

He may be thinking of Dave in NOLA he swore voting machines are infallable.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 04:07 PM (cOq4q)

That was Brian in New Orleans.

Say his name three times and he appears to tell you how digital voting is the safest, most bestest voting possible.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 19, 2024 04:12 PM (KbCG3)

158 I am not repeating unsubstantiated conspiracy theories but I did hear from the clerk at the grocery store that Kamala Harris has ordered new bed and bath linens for the White House. And two body bags.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 19, 2024 04:12 PM (WsTZq)

159 What is the effective difference between extreme incompetence and malicious deliberateness in this situation?

Posted by: Redbanzai at July 19, 2024 04:13 PM (JOR6L)

160 151
SS did a thorough sweep of the area, but the two SS wimmen searching the building got into a catfight the day before, arguing about the meaning of a Taylor Swift song.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 19, 2024 04:11 PM (y9nCu)

Wasn't it not too long ago that one of Kamala's SS agents went through some kind of mental break?

Be fun to find out if she was reassigned here.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 19, 2024 04:13 PM (KbCG3)

161 Okay, off to teach the last class today. I made it through 3. Definitely on the mend. See y’all later!

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2024 04:13 PM (p4NUW)

162 So when will the people who called the cop on the side of the roof "a coward" admit they were wrong and apologize for leaping to conclusion?

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at July 19, 2024 04:13 PM (a/7LW)

163 So three choices:

1) Everyone in the leadership of Trump's SS detail was grossly incompetent and the antifa assassin just happened to show up where they had "messed up" but....no one in Biden's government cares enough about what almost happened to fire the lot of them or...

2) The SS leadership did this intentionally hoping some known wolf would take advantage

3) The SS leadership worked with the assassin

So far everything is pointing to #2...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2024 04:14 PM (oZhjI)

164 Except, there was the shorting of stock that would have plummetted with the death of Trump.
Posted by: Axeman

That could have been told to anyone by the original four without guving a reason as to why they needed to short.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:14 PM (/NEnv)

165 "Failed" to find it.

I'm putting my money on this was an inside job. The more time goes on, the more apparent it is that our government is at war with us for control.

Posted by: Tom at July 19, 2024 04:14 PM (8J80s)

166 Except, there was the shorting of stock that would have plummetted with the death of Trump.
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I debunked this on Wed ONT.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline

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It's off the frontpage for me. Can you give a summary in a few sentences, please? I'm interested.

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:14 PM (Gakra)

167 @153...that would resemble a well-considered op.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 19, 2024 04:14 PM (SENO5)

168
Shoot much ? No. You don't.
Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 04:12 PM (1ix40)

Actually, I do shoot. But I'm thinking a world champion AR marksman at 1000 yards would be actually confident they could make a shot at 130 yards.

Now, stating that this was a rigged occurrence while Trump was moving mostly unpredictably is bedshit ignorant.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:14 PM (Zz0t1)

169 yards is almost no glasses territory. I could do NBC range without the inserts.
Posted by: Genius

Back in my Army reserve days, everything up to 150 was a gimme. I was generally able to hit the 250s while the 300s were, literally, hit or miss. I think these were in meters not yards, IIRC, though the difference is mere inches.
Posted by: SFGoth

50 and 100 were point-shoot range. 150 took aiming.
When qualifying I skipped the 300s and had to take two shots at a 250. Left the two extra rounds for the next guy. 'Expert' yea!
M-16 is quite accurate and easy to shoot. And I skipped the eyeglasses because the center of mass of a blur is good enough.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 04:14 PM (cOq4q)

170 >>Why would he be taking ranges at all? He knew where he was going to be, and where Trump was going to be, so he could estimate the range probably within a yard or two.

Like I said the other day...Mil Dot Reticles exist for a reason. No need for a rangefinder if you use one.

But. IF you are using a rangefinder for shot setup, you do it from position.
Not from random places that you don't intend to shoot from.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:15 PM (jrzt5)

171 If I’m the actual shooter, wouldn’t it be great if I could have young dweeb walk all over the place, be screened for having a range finder, be noticed for half an hour, have security watching him, have him go up on the roof, etc.?
Quite diversionary, no?
Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2024 04:11 PM (CTjQI)

In that scenario you're a really bad shot.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 04:15 PM (YaTIT)

172 111 Why would anyone need a golf range finder? The course is printed on the scorecard.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 19, 2024 04:04 PM

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I know, right? The guy in the pro shop can tell you where the range is.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 19, 2024 04:15 PM (wzAuc)

173 This is the first time I have heard that two sniper teams engaged the shooter

CNN had a story that audio analysis showed 3 weapons fired. 3 round from weapon A, 5 rounds weapon B, one round from weapon C.

This comports with what I heard - 3 rounds, a gap, 5 rounds, then a boom.

But we don't know which is which at this point. Single shot is obviously the final sniper shot.
Posted by: blaster at July 19, 2024 03:54 PM (IFNME)

The snipers I saw analyzing it were saying that the shot sounds you heard first was the snap of the bullets passing the mike supersonically. So some of these extra sounds could be the report making it the 150 yards to the mike, and then the final shot.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:15 PM (eoQWY)

174 Brian in NOLA

(don't say Dominion three times)
Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter

BINGO

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 04:15 PM (cOq4q)

175 BREAKING: Whistleblowers reveal MOST of Trump’s security detail were NOT Secret Service last Saturday

Senator Josh Hawley is reporting this morning that whistleblowers have approached his office and told him that most of Trump’s security detail last Saturday were not even Secret Service. They were said to be “unprepared and inexperienced personnel” assigned by DHS.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:16 PM (o3Uyl)

176 I can't listen to you people slander our great ham and egger boys and girls in Federal Law Enforcement any longer !!!

Ainslee ... come here. And take off that top.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at July 19, 2024 04:16 PM (1ix40)

177 I only trust BillInBatonRouge for all my facts.

Posted by: eleven at July 19, 2024 04:16 PM (iziT8)

178 BRIAN, not Dave.

That's right.

What a maroon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:16 PM (Zz0t1)

179 If I’m the actual shooter, wouldn’t it be great if I could have young dweeb walk all over the place, be screened for having a range finder, be noticed for half an hour, have security watching him, have him go up on the roof, etc.?
Quite diversionary, no?
Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2024 04:11 PM (CTjQI)

In that scenario you're a really bad shot.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 04:15 PM (YaTIT)

No, because in any sensible scenario the SS takes Trump away and hunts the area and finds you and kills you.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:16 PM (eoQWY)

180 I'm thinking 3 rounds from the assassin, 6 from a security detail 20 feet away that all missed, and one long shot from a competent counter sniper.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2024 04:17 PM (CzPno)

181 How did they get the idea it was just one shooter so fast.

Posted by: Genius

Because they had eyeballs on him gor 26 minutes.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:17 PM (/NEnv)

182 I can't listen to you people slander our great ham and egger boys and girls in Federal Law Enforcement any longer !!!

Ainslee ... come here. And take off that top.
Posted by: Sean Hannity at July 19, 2024 04:16 PM (1ix40)>

Sausage goes with Eggs. Ham for sammiches.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:17 PM (eoQWY)

183 The red liquid dripping down the side of Mr Trump's face was purported to be blood, perhaps belonging to the former president himself, but that has not been proven by any medical professionals independent of Trump's camp, nor whether the blood was from the apparent wound or was rather the blood placed there from someone from Trump's team or perhaps by Trump himself.

Posted by: Fox News Fair and Balanced at July 19, 2024 04:17 PM (mL/wV)

184
Is the shooter still an International Man of Mystery? Someone about whom nothing is or will be known?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2024 04:18 PM (1Nxff)

185 He handed the gun to one agent and asked another for a boost onto the roof.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 19, 2024 04:18 PM (evvc2)

186 How did they get the idea it was just one shooter so fast.

Posted by: Genius

Because they had eyeballs on him gor 26 minutes.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:17 PM (/NEnv)

its surprisingly hard to pull the 'lone nut' scenario out if you have thirty five of them posted all over the county.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:18 PM (eoQWY)

187 I work with Didnt Earn It coworkers

They are truly and astoundingly the most unskilled, inept creatures dragged from the very bottom of the Pacific Ocean that I have ever had the displeasure of having to work with.

Which is why I can believe the CrowdStrike fiasco is the result of a bunch of Indian workers getting paid $5000 a year fucking the world up with their incompetent shit than it being a malicious hack.

And yet it STILL doesn't rise to the level of shocking incompetence that I'm seeing with the Feds here.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at July 19, 2024 04:18 PM (DBZuM)

188 In that scenario you're a really bad shot.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 04:15 PM (YaTIT)

All good until the head turn. Even a pro can’t count on everything.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2024 04:18 PM (CTjQI)

189 Actually, I do shoot. But I'm thinking a world champion AR marksman at 1000 yards would be actually confident they could make a shot at 130 yards.

Earlobe ... at 130 yards ? I'll take that bet. Don't care who the shooter is. Ammunition for .223 isn't that good. No matter the grade.

Because that's what I'm talking. Oh - hit Trump in that big bean at 130 ? Sure, I can make that shot all day too.

But I'm talking the idea that the shot was staged. And it's a bullshit notion. Because nobody is that good. The damn round isn't that good.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at July 19, 2024 04:18 PM (1ix40)

190 150 yards. Maybe a 7 Iron.

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 04:19 PM (EkvES)

191 So three choices:

1) Everyone in the leadership of Trump's SS detail was grossly incompetent and the antifa assassin just happened to show up where they had "messed up" but....no one in Biden's government cares enough about what almost happened to fire the lot of them or...

2) The SS leadership did this intentionally hoping some known wolf would take advantage

3) The SS leadership worked with the assassin

So far everything is pointing to #2...
Posted by: 18-1

#2
But that is could easily go to #3

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 04:19 PM (cOq4q)

192 The Blackrock Boy was a patsy. There was another, proper shooter out there. Had to be. Nothing else makes sense. But the real shooter didn't fire. Why?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 19, 2024 04:19 PM (SENO5)

193 >>Earlobe ... at 130 yards ? I'll take that bet. Don't care who the shooter is. Ammunition for .223 isn't that good. No matter the grade.

I'd take your money all day.

Not using an AR platform, though.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:19 PM (jrzt5)

194 You would think security personnel would be extra concerned about security matters since in an attack, they are often the first targets.
Posted by: Emmie at July 19, 2024 03:51 PM (Sf2cq)

But they're so much smaller targets.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 19, 2024 04:20 PM (U7wke)

195 YUGE!
Secret Service Confirms Director Will Appear Before House Committee Next Week

Earlier this week, the Republican-led Oversight Committee led by Mr. Comer’s office sent a subpoena to Ms. Cheatle to testify and she agreed to its demands.

The matter, he wrote to the director, “calls into question your ability to lead the Secret Service and necessitates the attached subpoena compelling your appearance before the Oversight Committee.”

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:20 PM (o3Uyl)

196 150 yards. Maybe a 7 Iron.
Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 04:19 PM (EkvES)

Woof. I'm way over the green, unless it's a 10+ MPH headwind.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:20 PM (Zz0t1)

197 The shot was just supposed to take off his hat.

Posted by: Just as true at July 19, 2024 04:20 PM (vFG9F)

198 I would be curious as to where it was hidden. PA has lots and lots of trees and flora (weeds and poison ivy) to hide things in. It wouldn't be that hard.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 19, 2024 04:20 PM (sAmhv)

199
Everyone in the leadership of Trump's SS detail was grossly incompetent

_________

You see? Trump can't pick good people. Vote for Joe!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (1Nxff)

200 I can say from experience that it's 4" barrel 9mm pistol caliber carbine with a red dot distance. It's crazy that the kid was given all the time he needed for the shot and missed.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Windage.

Breath of God.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (/NEnv)

201 197 The shot was just supposed to take off his hat.

Posted by: Just as true at July 19, 2024 04:20 PM (vFG9F)

Was a warning shot to the hair.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (KbCG3)

202 195 YUGE!
Secret Service Confirms Director Will Appear Before House Committee Next Week

Earlier this week, the Republican-led Oversight Committee led by Mr. Comer’s office sent a subpoena to Ms. Cheatle to testify and she agreed to its demands.

The matter, he wrote to the director, “calls into question your ability to lead the Secret Service and necessitates the attached subpoena compelling your appearance before the Oversight Committee.”
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:20 PM (o3Uyl)

======

Bloviating at an unfireable bureaucrat?

It's 2012 all over again!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (GBKbO)

203 Gottaberightis is strong in this one.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (Zz0t1)

204 If the attempted assassination was carried out by the Deep State, wouldn't they have created some sort of manifesto/backstory/plausible clues to tie into the shooter's motivation?

On the other hand, a Gen Z kid who has virtually no digital footprint is suspicious to a major degree.

Posted by: John Drake Has Reached The Sea Of Azov at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (tmPIh)

205 Or the tranny one in my name field that is likely why ALL of his social media was immediately scrubbed after the shooting. Possibly shortly before.
Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (Gakra)

I've been told this has been debunked. So far, the debunking is this: "Nuh-uh!"

More seriously, it would be interesting to see where that picture came from.

Posted by: Emmie at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (Sf2cq)

206 Why the stupid debate over Blue Anon disinformation? Are the CCP really that much smarter than us? I guess it's a useful distraction for useful idiots.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (wBaIH)

207 192 The Blackrock Boy was a patsy. There was another, proper shooter out there. Had to be. Nothing else makes sense. But the real shooter didn't fire. Why?
Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 19, 2024 04:19 PM (SENO5)

Lee Harvey has entered the chat

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (o3Uyl)

208 Yes. Ainsley, slowly rake top off.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (qZEuM)

209 Earlier this week, the Republican-led Oversight Committee led by Mr. Comer’s office sent a subpoena to Ms. Cheatle to testify and she agreed to its demands.

The matter, he wrote to the director, “calls into question your ability to lead the Secret Service and necessitates the attached subpoena compelling your appearance before the Oversight Committee.”
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:20 PM (o3Uyl)
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Eh. We all know she'll show up, spout a bunch of lies, blame local LEOs for everything that went wrong, then counter any *real* questions with, "ongoing investigation" obfuscations. Failure theater.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM (7fElN)

210 Earlobe ... at 130 yards ? I'll take that bet. Don't care who the shooter is. Ammunition for .223 isn't that good. No matter the grade.

I'd take your money all day.

Not using an AR platform, though.
Posted by: garrett

You have to use a Ruger AR.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:22 PM (/NEnv)

211 Let's talk about the New Rules. Alex Jones was compelled to apologize and ordered to cough up pretty much all he had and all he was ever going to have, because he said a bunch of bullshit about the Florida shooting.
Personally I loathe Jones and don't care. Fine.
But what about Fox and the other liars in the media. Their bullshit matters just as much and is just as harmful.
I want them sued too.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2024 04:22 PM (gKWVE)

212 >>Gottaberightis is strong in this one.

I shoot ground squirrels with a .223 Bolt Action.

He's gonna run out of earlobes before he runs out of money.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:22 PM (jrzt5)

213 192 they set that patsy up for an easy shot and he only missed because Trump turned his head at the last moment.

Posted by: Tom at July 19, 2024 04:22 PM (8J80s)

214 I've been told this has been debunked. So far, the debunking is this: "Nuh-uh!"

More seriously, it would be interesting to see where that picture came from.
Posted by: Emmie

-

I'm not familiar with whatever the social media platform is, but it looks like some sort of live chat.

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:23 PM (Gakra)

215 But I'm talking the idea that the shot was staged. And it's a bullshit notion. Because nobody is that good. The damn round isn't that good.
Posted by: Sean Hannity at July 19, 2024 04:18 PM (1ix40)

exactly, especially not without hand loaded ammo and a stock AR platform

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 19, 2024 04:23 PM (NtVYv)

216 Is the shooter still an International Man of Mystery? Someone about whom nothing is or will be known?

His internet presence was professionally scrubbed - the last bit to disappear what his mostly blank instagram page that said he was antifa.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2024 04:23 PM (oZhjI)

217 >>You have to use a Ruger AR.

Do I have access to a machine shop and some custom barrels?

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:23 PM (jrzt5)

218 Eh. We all know she'll show up, spout a bunch of lies, blame local LEOs for everything that went wrong, then counter any *real* questions with, "ongoing investigation" obfuscations. Failure theater.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM

My money is on her pulling a lois lerner. After making a political statement she will invoke her 5th amendment rights and end the interview.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2024 04:23 PM (QNSds)

219 And the reason you know the photo is real is because EVERYTHING about that shooter is gone.

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:23 PM (Gakra)

220 >>> 166 Except, there was the shorting of stock that would have plummetted with the death of Trump.
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I debunked this on Wed ONT.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline

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It's off the frontpage for me. Can you give a summary in a few sentences, please? I'm interested.
Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:14 PM (Gakra)

Don't know if this is what *Buzz* mentioned, but the argument I've seen is that the volume was an honest mistake, and/or there's a timing issue based on when something was filed.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:23 PM (VavZF)

221 More distraction. Dweeb is supposed to detonate his car when the shot is taken.
Still working next steps.
Maybe ear shooter then shoots dweeb.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2024 04:23 PM (CTjQI)

222 I'd take your money all day. Not using an AR platform, though.
Posted by: garrett

Perhaps I wasn't clear. We're not talking about a contest of "draw the Croc from the Messenger Bag while doing a Vespa drive by".

My mistake.

Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:24 PM (1ix40)

223 Bloviating at an unfireable bureaucrat?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Is that right? Oh that must be why everyone called for her resignation...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:24 PM (o3Uyl)

224 Trump must have lost his shoes when the agents piled on him. Hillary lost a shoe when they tossed her in the ScoobyDo van like a side of beef.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 19, 2024 04:24 PM (Cus5s)

225 223 Bloviating at an unfireable bureaucrat?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Is that right? Oh that must be why everyone called for her resignation...
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:24 PM (o3Uyl)

======

Just like Lois Lerner?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 19, 2024 04:24 PM (GBKbO)

226 Earlier this week, the Republican-led Oversight Committee led by Mr. Comer’s office sent a subpoena to Ms. Cheatle to testify and she agreed to its demands.
______________

She agreed to testify after getting a sub poena? That's real white of her. Does she have any idea what "sub poena" means in English? Wait - she's a sociology graduate, so ... probably not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 19, 2024 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

227
https://youtu.be/tq08yOneY_0

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:24 PM (Zz0t1)

228 So basically the guys who surround him when he's shot are good guys. Everybody should be fired and their duties absorbed by other agencies. The president should do the hiring for his security.

This is a textbook example of why the deep state needs to end. Why on earth is this Cheatle defending her job???

Posted by: PJU at July 19, 2024 04:25 PM (G1dq6)

229 Trump claims he was shot and claims without evidence that a fireman was killed and two others were injured and claims he had blood in his ear.

Coming up next more on RUSSIA and Suckers and Losers.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2024 04:25 PM (lX8VI)

230 I suspect this was another Whitmer kidnapping scenario - the people that run the known wolves spun up this kid to go after Trump when Trump came into his area.

Gives you a ton of deniability since the assassin has no direct ties to the Deep State....

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2024 04:25 PM (oZhjI)

231 Has she resigned?

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 19, 2024 04:25 PM (Y8lzz)

232 IIRC there's creditable reporting that some number of personnel on Trump's detail that day were not Secret Service but rather DHS Homeland Security Investigations division agents.

Yet... in the videos I've seen, there is clearly "Secret Service" tags on some of the uniforms, others have none.

Regardless, there was a malicious move to degrade Trump's security personnel to the point they were unable to deal with the situation. As planned.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2024 04:25 PM (Q4IgG)

233 More distraction. Dweeb is supposed to detonate his car when the shot is taken.
Still working next steps.
Maybe ear shooter then shoots dweeb.
Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2024 04:23 PM (CTjQI)

He was trying to relive the end of Caddyshack.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:25 PM (Zz0t1)

234 My money is on her pulling a lois lerner. After making a political statement she will invoke her 5th amendment rights and end the interview.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2024 04:23 PM (QNSds)
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Also a possibility, though I think Lerner was being investigated for actual criminal wrongdoing at the time.

Right now, Cheatle is just the person who was in charge of the operation that went wrong. It's unlikely they will try to file criminal charges against her.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2024 04:25 PM (7fElN)

235 She agreed to testify after getting a sub poena? That's real white of her.

Well ... it puts her ahead of Eric Holder.

Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (1ix40)

236 Seeing reports that Trump's security detail wasn't even Secret Service. Say he was guarded by DHS "investigators."

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (KEWDx)

237 Do I have access to a machine shop and some custom barrels?
Posted by: garrett

Exact same stuff the 20 yr old kid did.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (/NEnv)

238 >Secret Service Confirms Director Will Appear Before House Committee Next Week

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aw cool- new sound bites
then pffft nothing happens
Jim J, roll up them sleeves- it's show time!

Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (/7KEl)

239 When Trump regains the presidency he should declassify and publish the remaining JFK assassination files. That would stir up some shit. With the ground then properly prepared blow up the FBI and Intel. agencies.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 19, 2024 03:59 PM (WsTZq)

Bring in RFKJ, let him read them, and ask if he thinks they should be made public.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (U7wke)

240 Remember you don't need everyone to be a bad apple - all you need is whoever staffed the Trump rally and placed were agents would be to leave the big gaping hole for the assassin to walk into...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (oZhjI)

241 Like a retard, you claimed that .223 ammo is incapable of sub 1/4 MOA accuracy.

That is how I know you are full of shit.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (jrzt5)

242 A trained sniper would have hit the center of the head or face. No last second turn would have mattered.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (YaTIT)

243 @198

>>I would be curious as to where it was hidden.

Probably in the U-Haul van with all of the Patriot Front guys, right besides the bricks.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (XV/Pl)

244 New carnival game.
Let a dozen rats with cloned human ears attached run around a maze. The object it to shoot one for a prize..

-Idea Man Michael Keaton

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (o3Uyl)

245
I thought the cop went up the ladder and if so was confused as to why he didnt draw his weapon at the top before he raised his head up. Was the ladder still up? If so why did they hoist him to the roof?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (xKAW/)

246 Actually, I do shoot. But I'm thinking a world champion AR marksman at 1000 yards would be actually confident they could make a shot at 130 yards.

Earlobe ... at 130 yards ? I'll take that bet. Don't care who the shooter is. Ammunition for .223 isn't that good. No matter the grade.

Because that's what I'm talking. Oh - hit Trump in that big bean at 130 ? Sure, I can make that shot all day too.

But I'm talking the idea that the shot was staged. And it's a bullshit notion. Because nobody is that good. The damn round isn't that good.
Posted by: Sean Hannity at July 19, 2024 04:18 PM (1ix40)

Someone needs to photoshop a target range scene with an ear target

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:27 PM (eoQWY)

247 Senator Josh Hawley is reporting this morning that whistleblowers have approached his office and told him that most of Trump’s security detail last Saturday were not even Secret Service. They were said to be “unprepared and inexperienced personnel” assigned by DHS.
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:16 PM (o3Uyl)

So agent Kanna Holsterit was a hand picked patsy.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 19, 2024 04:27 PM (N6rB4)

248 3) The SS leadership worked with the assassin

So far everything is pointing to #2...

not really.

Mostly things point to several people in the SS and others in the govt working to groom and facilitate the dweeb

( fun facts: "several" means 'more than two' )

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at July 19, 2024 04:27 PM (dGRTS)

249 When Trump regains the presidency he should declassify and publish the remaining JFK assassination files. That would stir up some shit. With the ground then properly prepared blow up the FBI and Intel. agencies.

_

The government would just tell him no. Same as last time.

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:27 PM (Gakra)

250 The shot was just supposed to take off his hat.
Posted by: Just as true at July 19, 2024 04:20 PM (vFG9F)
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No matter what Joe Cocker says!

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:27 PM (krQz2)

251 Do I have access to a machine shop and some custom barrels?
Posted by: garrett

And Crocs. And a Vespa. And a satchel of your choice. Which I assume will be made of high quality leather, and feature a stylish strap.

Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM (1ix40)

252 The red liquid dripping down the side of Mr Trump's face was purported to be blood, perhaps belonging to the former president himself, but that has not been proven by any medical professionals independent of Trump's camp, nor whether the blood was from the apparent wound or was rather the blood placed there from someone from Trump's team or perhaps by Trump himself.
Posted by: Fox News Fair and Balanced at July 19, 2024 04:17 PM (mL/wV)

Gutfeld on Fox News said he saw Trump's wound yesterday- he said it looked very bad and very real.

Posted by: Faux News at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM (nvKZ7)

253 50 yards. Maybe a 7 Iron.
Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 04:19 PM (EkvES)

Woof. I'm way over the green, unless it's a 10+ MPH headwind.
Posted by: Sponge

Shift to 2nd gear.

Posted by: DaveA at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM (FhXTo)

254 I thought the cop went up the ladder and if so was confused as to why he didnt draw his weapon at the top before he raised his head up. Was the ladder still up? If so why did they hoist him to the roof?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (xKAW/)
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I thought so too, but a few days ago I read that the ladder had been hidden by shrubbery so they didn't see it. So the one cop hoisted the other up.

Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM (bS+DD)

255 >>Exact same stuff the 20 yr old kid did.

An off the shelf Ruger AR is not achieving 1 MOA Accuracy with mass production ammo.

Not unless you get a Lottery Pick.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM (jrzt5)

256 I thought the cop went up the ladder and if so was confused as to why he didnt draw his weapon at the top before he raised his head up. Was the ladder still up? If so why did they hoist him to the roof?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (xKAW/)

I heard he was boosted up and was holding on to the edge ??

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM (NtVYv)

257 Shoots and Ladders.

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM (EkvES)

258 I thought the cop went up the ladder and if so was confused as to why he didnt draw his weapon at the top before he raised his head up. Was the ladder still up? If so why did they hoist him to the roof?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

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He climbed the ladder on the HVAC unit or something.

Shut up, it's been investigated and everything is fine. Also look, there's Taylor Swift!

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM (Gakra)

259 Secret Service Confirms Director Will Appear Before House Committee Next Week
______
BFD. We know what that means. A few of our guys will get in some good quotes on Youtube, and then nothing. Unless we can get something useful in the campaign, it's a nothingburger.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM (1bNHn)

260 Holy fuck I forgot about 9/11/16 which I was certain was also an Act of God.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2024 04:29 PM (lX8VI)

261 @213, can't run an op like that...stripping security detail, making sure the patsy's in place and giving him live ammo,, then rely on the goober to get it done? Short distance sure, but there are variables. No way. Too much at stake. Look where we are now, after he missed. Forseeable and way too risky. Must have another shooter out there somewhere. And I choose to believe he was way out there, well hidden, with a professional, tought through and executable egress plan, but simply decided not to take rhe shot, surprising even himself. Otherwise, this is all sheer madness.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 19, 2024 04:29 PM (SENO5)

262 Except, there was the shorting of stock that would have plummetted with the death of Trump.
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I debunked this on Wed ONT.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline

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It's off the frontpage for me. Can you give a summary in a few sentences, please? I'm interested.
Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:14 PM (Gakra)

It was only 1,200 shares, not 12,000,000.
All of the companies puts in their SEC filing were accidentally multiplied by 10,000 by the 3rd party company that prepared the filing. Dozens of puts for dozens of different stocks. It was filed on the 12th. As soon as the error was discovered, they submitted an amended filing to the SEC (on the 16th). All of the puts were corrected and the math works out.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:29 PM (JRP2U)

263
aw cool- new sound bites
then pffft nothing happens
Jim J, roll up them sleeves- it's show time!
Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (/7KEl)

Maybe this will extend the investigation so when the new Senate get in a real hearing can resume.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:29 PM (o3Uyl)

264 249 When Trump regains the presidency he should declassify and publish the remaining JFK assassination files. That would stir up some shit. With the ground then properly prepared blow up the FBI and Intel. agencies.

_

The government would just tell him no. Same as last time.
Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:27 PM (Gakra)

=======

Inauguration speech, "I hereby order all classified documents unsealed and declassified. All of them. Everything. If a FOIA request is made on any classified item, all materials must be handed over within one business day completely redacted. Fuck everyone, I have plenary power over classification bitches, and you people are going to suffer the consequences for making war on the American people."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 19, 2024 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

265 236 Seeing reports that Trump's security detail wasn't even Secret Service. Say he was guarded by DHS "investigators."
Posted by: Sam Adams at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (KEWDx)

Like the ones at airport security?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (N6rB4)

266 @256

>>I heard he was boosted up and was holding on to the edge ??

He was boosted up by another cop, the kid pointed the gun at him, he fell backwards and then Paul Blart I and Paul Blart II bravely ran away.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (XV/Pl)

267 Top. Women.

Posted by: weew at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (Zfz/V)

268 >Has she resigned?
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hell no
her and DR Jill are like totes BFFs

Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (/7KEl)

269 Off topic, but since ace hasn't been engaging with us in the comments today I hope that means he is getting his eyes seen to.

Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (bS+DD)

270 trained sniper would have hit the center of the head or face. No last second turn would have mattered.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (YaTIT)

Uhh, Mr. Ray, what range was the pro shooting from?
Do you do any long-distance shooting?

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (CTjQI)

271 So just to be clear we are assuming that he stashed the weapon somewhere on site ahead of time because he was seen without it, then seen with it.

There's no other possible explanation for how that happened?

At this point, I would bet the shooter dressed up in a Lee Harvey Oswald mask, answered "these are curtain rods" when questioned, and was allowed through.

Posted by: Chuck C at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (yOPBE)

272 That's why they took his shoes.

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (EkvES)

273
I heard he was boosted up and was holding on to the edge ??
Posted by: Hatari

The local police chief said one boosted the other and when the shooter pointed his gun at him, he fell back and broke his ankle.

No excuse for not firing in the sky as a warning.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2024 04:31 PM (CzPno)

274 Like I said earlier - FLAWLESS!!

Posted by: Kim Cheatle at July 19, 2024 04:31 PM (Hkcdp)

275 There was no ladder involved. It was a building with a low roof that was easily climbed onto.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 04:31 PM (YaTIT)

276
That Trump shoe story is a croc
Posted by: ...

I wouldn't wear those ugly ass shoes!

Posted by: OJ Simpson at July 19, 2024 04:31 PM (63Dwl)

277 I thought so too, but a few days ago I read that the ladder had been hidden by shrubbery so they didn't see it. So the one cop hoisted the other up.
Posted by: bluebell

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That's the SWAT ladder IIRC.

"Though law enforcement sources said Crooks is believed to have purchased a 5-foot ladder at a Home Depot before the shooting, it does not appear to have been used to climb on the roof and was not found at the scene.

Crooks was able to get a clear shot at the former president by scaling an air conditioning unit accessible from the ground and pulling himself up to the top of a building outside the security perimeter, sources told ABC News. From there he gained access to the top of the neighboring American Glass Research (AGR) building, sources said."

https://tinyurl.com/22vmz22n

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:31 PM (Gakra)

278 2025 thing. It's the first bullet point after the 'Enslave the Womens' section.)
Posted by: Mike Oxlong at July 19, 2024 03:52 PM (bqDim)

Cool! Do we get those awesome slave bracelets?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 19, 2024 04:31 PM (4XwPj)

279 Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 04:31 PM (YaTIT)

your hash is missing an s

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 19, 2024 04:32 PM (NtVYv)

280 Buzz debunking the DJT short

https://acecomments.mu.nu
/?post=410649

comment 812

Posted by: Emmie at July 19, 2024 04:32 PM (Sf2cq)

281 The minute Crooks was found with a range finder he should have been held for questioning until after the rally was over. The clusterf**k went downhill after that

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2024 04:32 PM (Zf6jY)

282 An off the shelf Ruger AR is not achieving 1 MOA Accuracy with mass production ammo.

Not unless you get a Lottery Pick.
Posted by: garrett

Exactly. Which makes trying to duplicate the kid's achievement (for an intentional wounding scenario) next to impossible.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:32 PM (/NEnv)

283 He was boosted up by another cop, the kid pointed the gun at him, he fell backwards and then Paul Blart I and Paul Blart II bravely ran away.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (XV/Pl)
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If you listen to the interview above, it wasn't quite like that. The cop ducked his head, lost his grip on the roof edge, and fell. Both he and the other cop immediately got on their radios to alert the others. He also said that before the cop was hoisted on the roof they had walked the whole perimeter and couldn't see anyone up there. So they couldn't have taken a shot at him.

Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2024 04:32 PM (bS+DD)

284 I like the part where you silently crawl up an HVAC unit with an AR while counter-snipers watch you.

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:32 PM (Gakra)

285 >>I would be curious as to where it was hidden.

Probably in the U-Haul van with all of the Patriot Front guys, right besides the bricks.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (XV/Pl)

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Disguised among the tiki torches and MAG hats.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 19, 2024 04:32 PM (hUzUC)

286 Like a retard, you claimed that .223 ammo is incapable of sub 1/4 MOA accuracy.

That is how I know you are full of shit.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (jrzt5)

For those of you that have never done the math - 1 MOA is so close to 1 inch at 100 yards that its a very, very good rule of thumb.

Go out sometime ... use a bag rest if you have a farm or access to a 100 yard range. Pursue that mythical 1 MOA grouping. It can be done - I do it regularly with a bolt action Rem 700 in .308.

Now ... eighth inch ? The width of Donald Trump's luxurious, majestic ear lobe ? At 130 yards ? With a .223 ? That's a horse of a different color.

If you want moped advice ? Or a helpful word about slip on shoes ? Talk to garrett.

Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:32 PM (1ix40)

287 Because Dave in Fla has always said 2020 was fraud.

Posted by: C'mon at July 19, 2024 03:58 PM (JghT2)

Bullshit. He not only shouted down anyone, prior to 2020, who even suggested five points of fraud were possible ... he came out guns blazing immediately after about how Trump lost in a few key demographics in a few key areas.

Because Dave loved elections like old ball players love their sport. They'll always tell you "can't let the official decide the game". No matter how blatant the ump decides the game.
Posted by: Its How It Is at July 19, 2024 04:01 PM (1ix40)

Let's hear from the horse's mouth, so to speak:

https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=394697

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 19, 2024 04:33 PM (U7wke)

288 The officer who confronted the shooter DID immediately announce on a shared radio channel there was a gun.

It falls on the Secret Service DEI Scratch Protection Team to explain why they didn't do anything.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 19, 2024 04:33 PM (UJJWg)

289 He also said that before the cop was hoisted on the roof they had walked the whole perimeter and couldn't see anyone up there. So they couldn't have taken a shot at him.

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Look at #29 if you haven't.

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:33 PM (Gakra)

290 I heard he was boosted up and was holding on to the edge ??

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM (NtVYv)

Thats in the video up top by his boss.

BB, I thought they had reconned around the building especially after the cop saw him? Really they didn't see the ladder? They didn't search in depth KNOWING he had to get up there somehow? What he was helicoptered in?!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 19, 2024 04:33 PM (xKAW/)

291 Is this more GOP Bukkake theater for us rubes?

Posted by: eleven at July 19, 2024 04:33 PM (iziT8)

292 >>Exactly. Which makes trying to duplicate the kid's achievement (for an intentional wounding scenario) next to impossible.

Oh, yeah. No way it was a staged event to 'wound'.

I was responding to the retard claiming that ALL .223 ammo is incapable for that type of accuracy at 130 yards.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:34 PM (jrzt5)

293 I heard on the tubes yesterday that the muzzies are burning Leeds, England. Someone threw their kid out of the 5th floor window and when social services showed up to catch the other five kids before anything bad happened to them the entire town of layabouts got their burn loot and murder on.
So it's not just here.

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 04:34 PM (RReG+)

294 What do you mean we.

Posted by: Genius at July 19, 2024 04:34 PM (EkvES)

295 Speaking of the shoot - Do we know when the one picture they are circulating of him is actually from? It looks like its several years old at least.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at July 19, 2024 03:47 PM (fgmuN)

Apparently there's not that many pictures of the kid in his high school yearbook, probably because things got wonky with COVID being in the middle of his high school years (he graduated in 2022). Also, he was told at least once to turn his camera on for Zoom classes. I haven't seen anything from his community college tenure either.

Posted by: pookysgirl, trying to answer questions at July 19, 2024 04:35 PM (dtlDP)

296 Moron Robbie, I was just talking about the two cops, one who hoisted the other up.

The snipers seeing the shooter and letting him be have no excuse.

Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2024 04:35 PM (bS+DD)

297 261 @213, can't run an op like that...stripping security detail, making sure the patsy's in place and giving him live ammo,, then rely on the goober to get it done? Short distance sure, but there are variables. No way. Too much at stake. Look where we are now, after he missed. Forseeable and way too risky. Must have another shooter out there somewhere. And I choose to believe he was way out there, well hidden, with a professional, tought through and executable egress plan, but simply decided not to take rhe shot, surprising even himself. Otherwise, this is all sheer madness.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 19, 2024 04:29 PM (SENO5)

Have you seen the current administration?

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2024 04:35 PM (exHjb)

298 How many parents would call the cops if their son was gone for half a day?

They knew.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 19, 2024 04:35 PM (Z8Yh2)

299 The shot was just supposed to take off his hat.
Posted by: Just as true at July 19, 2024 04:20 PM (vFG9F)
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Then it's time for the bully pulpit.

He should read the 2nd article to everybody, and have Constitutional experts explain what was meant by "vested" and then he should read the Federalist Papers about the executive branch.

And simply say to country DC has usurped the Presidency--also stress that this IS NOT "democracy".

This is a good strategy I think, because people are *bound* to come back with "No you weren't elected by a *majority*", if he won an electoral vote.

Because you can come back and say, maybe that's why there *IS* a difference between a "democracy" and a "Constitutional Republic Union of States".

And point out that it suggests that there *IS* a difference in concept between a "democracy" and a "constitutional republic" and it's not just pendantry, and point to how the Dems have been dissembling all along.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:35 PM (krQz2)

300 >>Now ... eighth inch ? The width of Donald Trump's luxurious, majestic ear lobe ? At 130 yards ? With a .223 ? That's a horse of a different color.

All day.

Every day.

I will take all of your money and both your ears.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:35 PM (jrzt5)

301 >>> 262
==
It was only 1,200 shares, not 12,000,000.
All of the companies puts in their SEC filing were accidentally multiplied by 10,000 by the 3rd party company that prepared the filing. Dozens of puts for dozens of different stocks. It was filed on the 12th. As soon as the error was discovered, they submitted an amended filing to the SEC (on the 16th). All of the puts were corrected and the math works out.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:29 PM (JRP2U)

Given all the other crazy stuff we've seen in recent years, doesn't this sound a bit convenient? You'd think someone(s) from the company making the short would be checking and double-checking both the order and the filing before going home for the weekend, not waiting until the following *Tuesday* to notice and make the correction.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:36 PM (VavZF)

302 I was responding to the retard claiming that ALL .223 ammo is incapable for that type of accuracy at 130 yards.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:34 PM (jrzt5)

Show us the .223 ammo so good that it's repeatable within 1/8" at 130 yards. Please. I'm sure even Weasel would like to know.

Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:36 PM (1ix40)

303 I was responding to the retard claiming that ALL .223 ammo is incapable for that type of accuracy at 130 yards.
Posted by: garrett

My apologies. I misunderstood.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:36 PM (/NEnv)

304 They didn't search in depth KNOWING he had to get up there somehow? What he was helicoptered in?!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 19, 2024 04:33 PM (xKAW/)
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Evidently he climbed up via the a/c unit. The whole thing is just one big mess.

Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2024 04:36 PM (bS+DD)

305 281 The minute Crooks was found with a range finder he should have been held for questioning until after the rally was over. The clusterf**k went downhill after that
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2024 04:32 PM (Zf6jY)

Sorry, playing through.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2024 04:36 PM (gKWVE)

306 >>I would be curious as to where it was hidden.

Probably in the U-Haul van with all of the Patriot Front guys, right besides the bricks.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2024 04:26 PM (XV/Pl)

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It was hidden wherever his FBI handler stashed it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 19, 2024 04:36 PM (7LTAR)

307 271 So just to be clear we are assuming that he stashed the weapon somewhere on site ahead of time because he was seen without it, then seen with it.

There's no other possible explanation for how that happened?

Posted by: Chuck C at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (yOPBE)

Well, he could have left it with someone and had that person give it back to him...but the only people who could do that would have been part of the security team...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2024 04:37 PM (exHjb)

308 205 Or the tranny one in my name field that is likely why ALL of his social media was immediately scrubbed after the shooting. Possibly shortly before.
Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (Gakra)

I've been told this has been debunked. So far, the debunking is this: "Nuh-uh!"

Posted by: Emmie at July 19, 2024 04:21 PM

NBC 8:30 PM (ET) Columbo: Peter Falk's suspicions that Jack Cassidy killed his wife are debunked when Cassidy says he was at his office at the time of the killing.

Posted by: TV Guide, Dec. 3, 1972 at July 19, 2024 04:37 PM (wzAuc)

309 I'm sure even Weasel would like to know.
Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:36 PM (1ix40)

Weasel made his own rounds. Was incredibly mental about it. Has stated such. If you want to drive yourself insane, make your own competition rounds.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 19, 2024 04:37 PM (Zz0t1)

310 It was hidden wherever his FBI handler stashed it.

I thought CIA usually handled this sort of thing?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 19, 2024 04:37 PM (dZVON)

311 @283

>>So they couldn't have taken a shot at him.

There really is a lot of ass covering going on.

You radio, and then what, just hang back to see what happens?

A f**king guy on a f**king roof just pointed a f**king rifle in your f**king face at rally for the f**king President, you better do whatever the f**k you can to get on that roof or cause such a f**king commotion that it can be hear from f**King space.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2024 04:38 PM (XV/Pl)

312 Moron Robbie, I was just talking about the two cops, one who hoisted the other up.

The snipers seeing the shooter and letting him be have no excuse.
Posted by: bluebell

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Yeah, and the local folks said they'd radio'd it in and explained how the chain of command was set up to relay that sort of information.

They were either ignored or told to stand down. There are no other choices.

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:38 PM (Gakra)

313 245. The Butler Pa county commissioner who released a statement this week said that the cop who went up to the roof was hoisted up by a fellow officer and had both hands on the edge of the roof to pull himself up. When he looked over the edge, Crooks saw him and pointed the gun at him. The officer let go and fell back onto the ground injuring himself in the fall. No ability to pull his weapon.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 19, 2024 04:38 PM (UOC/b)

314 When will Cheatle appear before the American people.
You know, a press conference with details.

Not a scripted one-on- one with friendly journalist.
Not a hearing where Democrats run cover.
Something that happens with every dang shooting and terror attack: press conferences, questions from many journalists, etc..

How long can she hide under Jill’s skirt????

Posted by: Lizzy at July 19, 2024 04:38 PM (Hkcdp)

315 Show us the 1/8" group, at 130 yards, that you can make from an AR-15 on a vise. Please. I'd like to see that.

Or your fine collection of fashion foot-ware and personal mobility cycles. Either way.

Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:38 PM (1ix40)

316 Holy Fook!
The last search Thomas Crooks made on his cell phone before attempting to assassinate Donald Trump was for pornography, and he visited a terrorist site Ace of Spades HQ a senior law enforcement source tells the Daily Beast.
https://tinyurl.com/2cx8k797

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:38 PM (o3Uyl)

317 How many parents would call the cops if their son was gone for half a day?

They knew.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen

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Yeah, especially since he's an adult.

Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:39 PM (Gakra)

318 134 We're only in it for the money.
Posted by: Fox News at July 19, 2024 04:08 PM (nvKZ7)

I'm trying to figure out why Aishah Hasnie was allowed to wear pants during her RNC appearances, rather than be required to wear a pencil skirt.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 19, 2024 04:39 PM (8sMut)

319 There is a lot of footage of citizens filming this dude on the roof. Should be some footage of the imfamous rifle pointing incident.

I remain skeptical.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 19, 2024 04:39 PM (Z8Yh2)

320 can't run an op like that...stripping security detail,

The head of the USSS sure as hell can for the First Lady. Who is going to tell her she can't pull the B Team off Trump?

Remember, Trump is the Ex-Pres. Same type guys watching Bubba, Shrub and Obama.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:39 PM (/NEnv)

321 So agent Kanna Holsterit was a hand picked patsy.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 19, 2024 04:27 PM (N6rB4)

Haha!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2024 04:39 PM (OX9vb)

322 Thomas, it was within seconds of the cop falling that the shooter shot at Trump. I remember reading that days ago.

Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2024 04:39 PM (bS+DD)

323 Why did the "experts" yield the best vantage point in the county to the assassin? How did the assassin stumble upon the the best vantage point (which was undefended) without being tipped off.

Crooks was recruited, briefed, assisted, allowed to shoot, then silenced.

I think the CIA/FBI/SS thought that Crooks had completed the objective then they took care of their loose ends by putting him to sleep.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 19, 2024 04:39 PM (b+QiS)

324 "Trump later said he had been shot in the right ear, and photos from the scene showed him getting back to his feet after ducking for cover with blood on the right side of his head."

They reprinted that article on the New York Post.

I read and thought to myself
"Do the assholes writing these articles not realize that the entire world saw Trump get shot in the ear?"

But, nah, they're like...
"We're not sure on this one guys, there's some video and photos and Trump said this and seemed to be acting odd... but we can't be sure! It's just too much of an open question about whether these are facts right now!!"

It's as if they wanted to say...
"Donald Trump, without evidence, said he was shot in the right ear at a rally today..."
But the editor didn't see how that was gonna fly.

Pricks.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 19, 2024 04:39 PM (6ydKt)

325 >>Show us the 1/8" group, at 130 yards, that you can make from an AR-15 on a vise. Please. I'd like to see that.

Now you are moving goal posts. Stick to talking out your ass. You will have more people believing you.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (jrzt5)

326 I have to admit, after 9/11, when W was forming the DHS and people here were saying what a terrible idea it was, I thought they were crazy.

Man, was I wrong.

Any new government agency is just a horrible idea.

There will only ever be one outcome.

Graft, incompetence, and the inevitable shift to being the exact opposite thing to what it was purported to be.

Posted by: eleven at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (iziT8)

327 It was only 1,200 shares, not 12,000,000.
All of the companies puts in their SEC filing were accidentally multiplied by 10,000 by the 3rd party company that prepared the filing. Dozens of puts for dozens of different stocks. It was filed on the 12th. As soon as the error was discovered, they submitted an amended filing to the SEC (on the 16th). All of the puts were corrected and the math works out.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:29 PM (JRP2U)

Given all the other crazy stuff we've seen in recent years, doesn't this sound a bit convenient? You'd think someone(s) from the company making the short would be checking and double-checking both the order and the filing before going home for the weekend, not waiting until the following *Tuesday* to notice and make the correction.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:36 PM (VavZF)

That sounds like the Hillary cattle future 'win' without losing much money. The game was that the dude entering the investments made one the opposite way and gave Hillary the winners.

Here you put in the 'wrong' values and if you don't win big you submit the 'error' and don't even lose the money.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (eoQWY)

328 316 Holy Fook!
The last search Thomas Crooks made on his cell phone before attempting to assassinate Donald Trump was for pornography, and he visited a terrorist site Ace of Spades HQ a senior law enforcement source tells the Daily Beast.
https://tinyurl.com/2cx8k797

Fake news!

Posted by: Piper at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (PRqXW)

329 >>> How many parents would call the cops if their son was gone for half a day?

They knew.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 19, 2024 04:35 PM (Z8Yh2)

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If my 19 year old HS senior son was gone for half a day on a Saturday I'd grateful that I don't have to make him lunch. I’m no 29 year old, after all.

Posted by: Turn 2 at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (JfxgE)

330 "Did you see that guy's shoes? They were like butter."

Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (/7KEl)

331 There were several mistakes.

1) Not finding the rifle - it happens.
2) Not responding fast enough - it happens.
3) Ducking when someone points a gun at you - it happens

The two unforgivable mistakes:

1) letting Trump go out while they were looking for a possible gunman. How does that happen? extremely poor training and communications

2) Not securing the roof. A staggering oversite. Sounds like just poor site management.

There is no way to excuse either failure, and people should lose jobs over it.

Posted by: El Mariachi at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (nLFEI)

332 Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2024 04:38 PM (XV/Pl)

Donuts Thomas. Place was about to close.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (xKAW/)

333 It was hidden wherever his FBI handler stashed it.
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I thought CIA usually handled this sort of thing?

That's crazy talk. Everyone knows it's illegal for the CIA to run domestic ops.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (/y8xj)

334 Given all the other crazy stuff we've seen in recent years, doesn't this sound a bit convenient? You'd think someone(s) from the company making the short would be checking and double-checking both the order and the filing before going home for the weekend, not waiting until the following *Tuesday* to notice and make the correction.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:36 PM (VavZF)

No. Thinking they would have foresight to fake dozens of puts by multiplying them by 10,000 just in case someone caught on and that the SEC wouldn’t jump all over them is just silly.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:41 PM (JRP2U)

335 This is the first time I have heard that two sniper teams engaged the shooter

CNN had a story that audio analysis showed 3 weapons fired. 3 round from weapon A, 5 rounds weapon B, one round from weapon C.

This comports with what I heard - 3 rounds, a gap, 5 rounds, then a boom.

But we don't know which is which at this point. Single shot is obviously the final sniper shot.
Posted by: blaster at July 19, 2024 03:54 PM (IFNME)

Interesting, if legit.

Presumably, "A" was the first, chronologically. Therefore, the shooter took 3 shots. Seems like some are saying more than that, apparently including "B".

If "B" is another sniper for the good guys, they were apparently a terrible shot, missing 5 times. Does that make sense?

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 19, 2024 04:41 PM (hOOi9)

336 “the Secret Service Failed to Find It”

Disguised it as a pipe bomb
Posted by: Oglebay

Wrapped it in a copy of Epstein's client list.

Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2024 04:41 PM (TQ/A+)

337 An off the shelf Ruger AR is not achieving 1 MOA Accuracy with mass production ammo.

Not unless you get a Lottery Pick.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:28 PM

Mine is close even with surplus M885 ball ammo. It ain't a tack driver at 100 yards but it will punch out a 4 inch 3 shot group with iron sights and my old eyes. I expect I could dial it in even further with an optic mounted.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2024 04:42 PM (QNSds)

338 326 I have to admit, after 9/11, when W was forming the DHS and people here were saying what a terrible idea it was, I thought they were crazy.

Man, was I wrong.

Any new government agency is just a horrible idea.

There will only ever be one outcome.

Graft, incompetence, and the inevitable shift to being the exact opposite thing to what it was purported to be.
Posted by: eleven at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (iziT

BUT HE HAD TO DO SOMETHING!!!

Posted by: Americans at July 19, 2024 04:42 PM (8sMut)

339 I think the CIA/FBI/SS thought that Crooks had completed the objective then they took care of their loose ends by putting him to sleep.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 19, 2024 04:39 PM (b+QiS)

You should just drop this. Competent security would shoot the assassin dead, as would a group of conspirators. The dude getting shot what is gonna happen, it doesn't add to a conspiracy argument.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:42 PM (eoQWY)

340 Buzz debunking the DJT short

https://acecomments.mu.nu
/?post=410649

comment 812
Posted by: Emmie at July 19, 2024 04:32 PM (Sf2c
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That's not "debunking":
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Austin Private Wealth web site News and Events page says it was 12,000 shares, not 12 million. It was supposedly a filing error and they regret the concern it has caused.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 18, 2024 01:03 AM (JRP2U)
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It *still* is the case that a MEGA short was *filed*, and later changed as "error".

That doesn't "debunk" a claim made with that adjustment in mind.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:42 PM (krQz2)

341 @297...fair point. From Steele Dossier through Jan 6, op quality has been abysmal. See what DEI gets you?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 19, 2024 04:42 PM (SENO5)

342 So agent Kanna Holsterit was a hand picked patsy.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless

😂😂😂

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:42 PM (/NEnv)

343 For those of you that are curious, find one of those plastic rulers that you might have in your office.

Now ... look at the 1/8" mark. That's not the big mark between the 0 and 1 ... or the smaller mark between the zero and that mark. Its the yet smaller mark between that mark and the zero.

In case you don't shoot ? No .223 round is that good at 130 yards ... let alone a shooter. Not even garrett.

I bet he can haul ass on a single cylinder Honda though. Especially if his feet are firmly on the pedals.

Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:43 PM (1ix40)

344 "But, nah, they're like...
"We're not sure on this one guys, there's some video and photos and Trump said this and seemed to be acting odd... but we can't be sure! It's just too much of an open question about whether these are facts right now!!"
"

These evil pricks would gaslight a gaslight. And go to their graves proud of it.

Posted by: eleven at July 19, 2024 04:43 PM (iziT8)

345 If "B" is another sniper for the good guys, they were apparently a terrible shot, missing 5 times. Does that make sense?
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 19, 2024 04:41 PM (hOOi9)

They were shooting the guy on the water tower, but he was so blurry...

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:43 PM (eoQWY)

346 Like the young guy that's registering peeps for the Repub party?
Posted by: SFGoth

Easy up Nancy, I was making a joke.

Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 19, 2024 04:43 PM (Fj9dJ)

347 I can "debunk" that it was an SS failure, if I simply use the official statement of the SS, can't I?

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:44 PM (krQz2)

348 322 Thomas, it was within seconds of the cop falling that the shooter shot at Trump. I remember reading that days ago.

Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2024 04:39 PM (bS+DD)

Huh. I'll have to track that down. In the vid upstairs the supervisor is asked how much time elapsed. i said 'he didn't know.'...no report but the officers? Come on.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 19, 2024 04:44 PM (xKAW/)

349 Someone replied and used the word comport. This place is amazing.

Posted by: Winston Smith at July 19, 2024 04:44 PM (Q0zQv)

350 >>No .223 round is that good at 130 yards

That is the claim that is provably false.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 04:44 PM (jrzt5)

351 When you get to the bottom and the heart of what we are doing every day from the campaign and we are dealing with the voters that are in battleground states, they have questions, but they are staying with Joe Biden. And our numbers are showing that," she said.
======================
~~ Biden Campaign Manager Jenn O'Malley Dillon, after sucking on her bong this morning on Murderin' Joe

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 19, 2024 04:44 PM (xW7xf)

352 The agent who couldn't holster her weapon looked like a tranny version of the late great John Pinette

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2024 04:45 PM (Zf6jY)

353 That's just the way it is
Some things will never change

Posted by: Bruce Horney at July 19, 2024 04:45 PM (vFG9F)

354 It *still* is the case that a MEGA short was *filed*, and later changed as "error".

That doesn't "debunk" a claim made with that adjustment in mind.
Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:42 PM (krQz2)

The filing has to match the transactions or the SEC shuts them down and everyone goes to jail.
Find a better conspiracy theory to get behind.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:45 PM (JRP2U)

355
Apparently they did not conduct a proper security sweep.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)

You mean, like, with a broom?

Posted by: Our Slope-Averse Secret Service (Now With DEI Collector Cards!) at July 19, 2024 04:45 PM (xG4kz)

356 " Pursue that mythical 1 MOA grouping. It can be done - I do it regularly with a bolt action Rem 700 in .308."
***********
Ditto with .308 and with .30-06 and 7mm Rem mag. The Remington 700 is a hell of a rifle.

Posted by: Cosda at July 19, 2024 04:45 PM (kk6wf)

357 If "B" is another sniper for the good guys, they were apparently a terrible shot, missing 5 times. Does that make sense?

Posted by: MrExcitement

An audio analysis tends to indicate that the second burst was fired in the same direction as the first three, so someone behind the sniper. Maybe the team looking out the window missed a guy 20 feet away, or they were shooting at the stage too.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2024 04:46 PM (lTGtQ)

358 50 and 100 were point-shoot range. 150 took aiming.
When qualifying I skipped the 300s and had to take two shots at a 250. Left the two extra rounds for the next guy. 'Expert' yea!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Pretty much in agreement. Had to aim at the 150, but it was really easy to hit. I didn't skip the 300s all the time - depends how I felt - but it was a good idea to get extra shots at 250 if necessary.

There was no exception in AR 870-whatever (the Army uniform policy) for officers wearing marksmanship badges. I deduced the unwritten custom was because too many officers sucked and barely qualified. I qual'd expert and I proudly complied with the uniform reg.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 19, 2024 04:46 PM (KAi1n)

359 @322

>>Thomas, it was within seconds of the cop falling that the shooter shot at Trump. I remember reading that days ago.

We literally have no idea what the real timeline for all of this is at this point and quite frankly, it really should only take around, ohhh, 5 or 6 days to figure this out, I'll give you 1 full week.

It all really starts with the security plan and responsibility matrix, these events are not jazz hand and spirit fingered into existence, they are planned and organized weeks in advance, with planning, site surveys, threat assessments, resource loading, tasking, deployment.

This is literally elementary stuff here people.

And we need to know this sh*t to understand this sh*t

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2024 04:46 PM (XV/Pl)

360 What the heck did REDACTED do to get on the permanent poop list?

Am I allowed to ask?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at July 19, 2024 04:46 PM (3AwA+)

361 Ditto with .308 and with .30-06 and 7mm Rem mag. The Remington 700 is a hell of a rifle.

Posted by: Cosda at July 19, 2024 04:45 PM (kk6wf)

Yeah ... big fan. But I'm no garrett - so I wouldn't attempt to shoot anyone's earlobe at 130 yards with it.

Then again, my boots don't match my truck and my man-purse.

Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (1ix40)

362 That's just the way it is
Some things will never change

His handle changes repeatedly.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (dTTBf)

363 Huh. I'll have to track that down. In the vid upstairs the supervisor is asked how much time elapsed. i said 'he didn't know.'...no report but the officers? Come on.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 19, 2024 04:44 PM (xKAW/)
--------

It's probably in one of the many articles that have been linked here in the past few days, which means probably hopeless to find it, lol. I'll see if I can find something.

But I remember that specifically because at that point we all believed the officer had gone up the ladder to the roof and just chickened out on shooting the guy and gone back down the ladder. As it turns out, he was hanging on the roof.

Posted by: bluebell at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (bS+DD)

364 Damn! I think I saw this in a cartoon once...
The Post also reported that Crooks may have scoured the site of the rally up to six days in advance and appeared on Saturday well before the event’s start time, drawing suspicion from security personnel which was not acted upon. Before the shooting began, local law enforcement officers responsible for securing the site’s perimeter photographed Crooks crawling along the ground with a rangefinder as he sought a vantage point for the stage. The disturbing behavior was reported back to headquarters but not acted upon, other outlets have added. FBI agents used technology from Cellebrite, a popular private-sector company well-known among law enforcement organizations for assistance in hacking into the phones of terrorist suspects after major security

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (o3Uyl)

365 >>> 334
==
No. Thinking they would have foresight to fake dozens of puts by multiplying them by 10,000 just in case someone caught on and that the SEC wouldn’t jump all over them is just silly.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:41 PM (JRP2U)

1) *If* they're really up to some form of shenanigans, they'll come up with *something* to fig-leaf if they get caught.
2) The SEC appears to be just as leftist as every other feralgov agency.
3) Do we have any context, such as how many times errors like this happen (x10k?! whoopsie!!!), other shorts with 'coincidental' timing, etc etc?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (VavZF)

366 The officer let go and fell back onto the ground injuring himself in the fall. No ability to pull his weapon.
Posted by: Jen the original

Bullshit. Every movie I've seen with some guy falling off a building, he gets his shots off.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (KAi1n)

367 The snipers I saw analyzing it were saying that the shot sounds you heard first was the snap of the bullets passing the mike supersonically. So some of these extra sounds could be the report making it the 150 yards to the mike, and then the final shot.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:15 PM (eoQWY)

Yes, your ears, and mics, pick-up a snap-pop double sound from each supersonic bullet that passes close by. Bullet shock wave then the muzzle report.

What we peons don't yet know is how many separate bullets the scumbag fired to strike the one dead and three wounded men. (Magic JFK bullet here we come!) Four? Did one bullet or fragments from one bullet wound 2 or more men? Did friendly bullets strike one or more of the four men?

The longer such key details are withheld the more the investigation results will lack credibility to the sane non-Leftist members of the public.

Why hasn't the 'independent review' been announced as up-and-running yet? Is it running already but in secret? If so, that is a cover-up review, not an independent review the public will have confidence in.

What an unholy communications stonewall mess the 'transparent' Biden Administration has created.

Posted by: Gref at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (5fDan)

368 The two unforgivable mistakes:

1) letting Trump go out while they were looking for a possible gunman. How does that happen? extremely poor training and communications

2) Not securing the roof. A staggering oversite. Sounds like just poor site management.

There is no way to excuse either failure, and people should lose jobs over it.
Posted by: El Mariachi at July 19, 2024 04:40 PM (nLFEI)

People like you who dare criticize the police should be summarily executed by police. Law enforcement is completely above criticism.

Posted by: Hero In Blue at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (8sMut)

369 What it looks like to me, so far is this.

He fired 3 shots, Trump ducked. I think out of sight of the shooter (although not behind steel barrier as it was not on sides.)

He then starts getting shot at from the ground. 5 or 6 shots but I think a couple were from the "local counter sniper team" that was "in the building" and is probably just a couple of range qualified LEO with long guns. He fired a few shots, still into crowd, but not specifically at Trump.

Final shot from far side USSS CS team on roof.

Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 19, 2024 04:48 PM (Fj9dJ)

370 @297...fair point. From Steele Dossier through Jan 6, op quality has been abysmal. See what DEI gets you?
Posted by: occam's brassiere at July 19, 2024 04:42 PM (SENO5)
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Conspiracies by our government really aren't Wag-the-Dog slick.

How can you tell? The *main* effort becomes *enforcement* of the official summaries. And the use of government power to control dissent (which they really shouldn't have but have really, really been reaching for of late).

That Covid was overflowing our hospitals began to be debunked within a few days of the lockdown.

Then, you are left with "You'd better believe it, you nutjob!" Which is how Power deals with fuckups.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:48 PM (krQz2)

371
Blue Anon!
Poo Anon!
Whacha Gonna
Do Anon?

Posted by: Our Slope-Averse Secret Service (Win A Dream Date With Holster Hannah!) at July 19, 2024 04:48 PM (xG4kz)

372 Man my typing is retarded today.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 19, 2024 04:48 PM (xKAW/)

373 How come Kamala never mentions her "brush with death" when the fake pipe bomb was discovered at DNC HQ on or around J6?

You'd think she'd be using that for all sorts of street cred as she battles for supremacy over *biden for the big chair.

But no, never a word. Why? Because that was a Secret Service op too.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2024 04:48 PM (Q4IgG)

374 The shooter was on the roof, known by authorities to have a rifle ... for several minutes (afaik). Whoever made the decision to leave Trump vulnerable ... wanted Trump dead.

This is not really debatable, but of course they will "debate" it.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 19, 2024 04:48 PM (Cus5s)

375 the Secret Service Failed to Find It”

Disguised it as a pipe bomb
Posted by: Oglebay

Wrapped it in a copy of Epstein's client list.
Posted by: mikeski

Under Hunter's coke.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 04:49 PM (/NEnv)

376 328 316 Holy Fook!
The last search Thomas Crooks made on his cell phone before attempting to assassinate Donald Trump was for pornography, and he visited a terrorist site Ace of Spades HQ a senior law enforcement source tells the Daily Beast.
https://tinyurl.com/2cx8k797

Fake news!
Posted by: Piper

Nobody in their right mind would try to read Ace of Spades on a cellphone because margins blown make it unreadable.
At porn you can zoom.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 19, 2024 04:49 PM (cOq4q)

377 17
I wouldn't bet on them finding a tampon and I'd be willing to spot them the string.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2024 03:51 PM (jrzt5)
----
Well a cotton-picker is a woman who has lost the string to her tampon.

Posted by: Ciampino - cotton picking fields of home at July 19, 2024 04:49 PM (qfLjt)

378 Conspiratorial thinking is infectious in an Empire of Lies.

Saying the SEC is in on something doesn't feel like a huge stretch.

No idea if it could be true or not (I think I lean towards not), but I get it.

Why trust them?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 19, 2024 04:50 PM (GBKbO)

379 I can tell some people have never shot in an NRA Silhouette shoot in the High Power Semi Automatic Military Rifle class with factory original sights. Lot of shooters would break your heart with groups at 150 yards shooting a stock AR platform even without wearing shooters jackets or any other gear to brace on.

Posted by: JROD at July 19, 2024 04:50 PM (IlL6s)

380 How come Kamala never mentions her "brush with death" when the fake pipe bomb was discovered at DNC HQ on or around J6?

I imagine, when you came face to face with Willy Brown's willie like she has ... death just doesn't get your attention anymore.

She's got that four inch stare.

Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:50 PM (1ix40)

381 3) Do we have any context, such as how many times errors like this happen (x10k?! whoopsie!!!), other shorts with 'coincidental' timing, etc etc?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (VavZF)

It was space aliens. They did it to prove the earth is really flat.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:50 PM (JRP2U)

382
Nobody in their right mind would try to read Ace of Spades on a cellphone because margins blown make it unreadable.
At porn you can zoom.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Assassin Goober was led astray by the commonly uttered phrase here, "blown margins".

Posted by: Our Slope-Averse Secret Service (Win A Dream Date With Holster Hannah!) at July 19, 2024 04:51 PM (xG4kz)

383 An audio analysis tends to indicate that the second burst was fired in the same direction as the first three, so someone behind the sniper. Maybe the team looking out the window missed a guy 20 feet away, or they were shooting at the stage too.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2024 04:46 PM (lTGtQ)

And they missed not only the shooter AND trump AND the crowd?

My goodness.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:51 PM (eoQWY)

384 Misdirection. Sometimes the best way to disguise what really happened is to admit to something else. Seems to be a lot of "admitting" going on, but underneath it all somewhere is the truth.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 19, 2024 04:51 PM (MZ+PY)

385 People like you who dare criticize the police should be summarily executed by police. Law enforcement is completely above criticism.

Posted by: Hero In Blue at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (8sMut)

Wait, you're still open to bribes 'to look the other way' right?

Posted by: The Mob at July 19, 2024 04:51 PM (xKAW/)

386 Do we have any context, such as how many times errors like this happen (x10k?! whoopsie!!!), other shorts with 'coincidental' timing, etc etc?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (VavZF)

It was space aliens. They did it to prove the earth is really flat.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:50 PM (JRP2U)

hollow earth, and they live on the inside.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:51 PM (eoQWY)

387 I agree with Townsend Whelen

The only interesting rifle is an accurate rifle

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 19, 2024 04:51 PM (NtVYv)

388 There is a sound guy who timed the recordings for bullet crack and rifle report. Three shots with bullet crack and rifle boom with signature indicating 145 yards, five shots slightly longer range, and the final shot fired near to the stage going the opposite direction.

The first three are the shooter, and the last one is the near counter sniper shooting back, the other five are in question.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2024 04:51 PM (lTGtQ)

389 This is only a porn site if you like to talk about talking about boobs while the ettes remind you that there are ettes here.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 19, 2024 04:52 PM (KAi1n)

390 Then again, my boots don't match my truck and my man-purse.
Posted by: The Way
*******
I forgot I also had a Rem 700 in .270 Win. Gave that to my son, a marine expert rifleman. He makes amazing shots with it on deer and elk.

Posted by: Cosda at July 19, 2024 04:52 PM (kk6wf)

391 378 Conspiratorial thinking is infectious in an Empire of Lies.

Saying the SEC is in on something doesn't feel like a huge stretch.

No idea if it could be true or not (I think I lean towards not), but I get it.

Why trust them?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 19, 2024 04:50 PM (GBKbO)

Speak English on this blog. In that last sentence, what is that word between "Why" and "them"?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 19, 2024 04:52 PM (8sMut)

392 People like you who dare criticize the police should be summarily executed by police. Law enforcement is completely above criticism.

Posted by: Hero In Blue at July 19, 2024 04:47 PM (8sMut)

* trembling in fear *

Posted by: The Family Dog at July 19, 2024 04:52 PM (1ix40)

393 Jason Chaffetz on Outnumbered today said he was part of a committee in Congress nine years ago that investigated the SS to provide recommendations of improvements after several instances of failure during the Obama years. Apparently one incident was a regular citizen getting on an elevator with Obama while carrying. Shots fired at Biden’s home and no one ever caught because SS had no cameras set up. A guy climbing the WH fence with crocs and entering the WH when Sasha was the only Obama there. Chaffetz said the uniformed SS agents get 30 minutes of training a year. He said nothing has changed in nine years and none of the committee recommendations were implemented.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 19, 2024 04:52 PM (UOC/b)

394 307 271 So just to be clear we are assuming that he stashed the weapon somewhere on site ahead of time because he was seen without it, then seen with it.

There's no other possible explanation for how that happened?

Posted by: Chuck C at July 19, 2024 04:30 PM (yOPBE)

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He could have been told where to find a hidden weapon by someone who also gave him the other details.

Isn't there video of him pacing around talking on his phone and smoking a cigarette about 15 minutes before the shooting?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 19, 2024 04:53 PM (b+QiS)

395 Gref, I want to see a timeline to the tenth of a second of all of the shots. Then the bullets under microscopes. Then the ballistics of every shot.

I would also like a pony.

Posted by: RI Red at July 19, 2024 04:53 PM (CTjQI)

396 391 Speak English on this blog. In that last sentence, what is that word between "Why" and "them"?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 19, 2024 04:52 PM (8sMut)

========

Ancient French, a dialect near Italy.

It means, "a whale's vagina".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 19, 2024 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

397 How come Kamala never mentions her "brush with death" when the fake pipe bomb was discovered at DNC HQ on or around J6?

You'd think she'd be using that for all sorts of street cred as she battles for supremacy over *biden for the big chair.

But no, never a word. Why? Because that was a Secret Service op too.

YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2024 04:48 PM (Q4IgG)

She sucked the explosives out of it.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:53 PM (eoQWY)

398 Rogue SS anent made an underground snuff film of Crooks getting whacked. He will make money distributing it to college campus coffee houses.

-The Expendable

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 04:53 PM (o3Uyl)

399 This is only a porn site if you like to talk about talking about boobs while the ettes remind you that there are ettes here.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 19, 2024 04:52 PM (KAi1n)

*looks about nervously*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 19, 2024 04:54 PM (xKAW/)

400 >>380 How come Kamala never mentions her "brush with death" when the fake pipe bomb was discovered at DNC HQ on or around J6?

I imagine, when you came face to face with Willy Brown's willie like she has ... death just doesn't get your attention anymore.

She's got that four inch stare.
Posted by: The Way It Is at July 19, 2024 04:50 PM (1ix40)
__
Glad you've reverted from ballistics to a subject you apparently know better - cocks.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 19, 2024 04:54 PM (CWMF2)

401 >>> [two posts]
All of the companies puts in their SEC filing were accidentally multiplied by 10,000 by the 3rd party company that prepared the filing.
==
The filing has to match the transactions or the SEC shuts them down and everyone goes to jail.
Find a better conspiracy theory to get behind.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:45 PM (JRP2U)

I thought the first part is you saying the filing did not match the transactions, so the order was legit and it's just a 'paperwork' error. So then someone ought to go to jail? Or do they have some sort of grace period to say 'ooopsie', even *after* the date of the order?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:54 PM (VavZF)

402 I like talking to a man that likes to talk about boobs.

Posted by: Sidney Greenstreet at July 19, 2024 04:54 PM (iziT8)

403 The cop was boosted and so was FJB. It didn't stop anything.

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (RReG+)

404 Both were reported at the same time:

Cop got boosted up.
Cop used a ladder.

The roof/rain gutter is 12’ off the ground.

Posted by: 13times at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (U54PZ)

405 where's the guy who says everything's an op?

Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (/7KEl)

406 I worked for a finance firm. A glitch in our software caused us to "move the market".

We weren't supposed to "move the market"--ever. It was part of our charter that our investment software would have a minimal effect.

We were investigated for *months* by the SEC and had to submit all sorts of documents on the root cause, and prove that it was not intentional and we were just hiding behind a claim of a glitch. We got put on probation. As well as shut down until we could prove that this glitch and other calculations like it was no longer in our software.

This experience convinces me that if you were to make a misfiling of 12 million shares, it's not just like Johnny pulling the power on the landing strip lights and OOPSIE! Did I do that?!

Oh, it's just a filing of a number that would likely move the market--we caught it later. Ooopsie.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (krQz2)

407 What's the big deal to have to resign if you are aligned with the left? Cheadle will get rewarded somewhere in the vast leftist networks of non‐profits, NGOs, corporate boards etc.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (mL/wV)

408
D'Jill picked a convenient time to be away. Did she take the SS' "Z" team with her for a "get our stories straight" struggle session?

Posted by: Our Slope-Averse Secret Service ('Tweren't 'Fumbling'! With My Gun! I Was Juggling It!) at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (xG4kz)

409 I would like to see a review of the security at previous Trump events.

Posted by: davidt at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (SYTee)

410 Malicious Incompetence? Maybe, but the incompetence is part of the cover up. "Mistakes were made" ... we hear that a lot, from some of the prosecutors of obvious crimes by Hillary or Biden (and their friends).

Posted by: illiniwek at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (Cus5s)

411 There is a sound guy who timed the recordings for bullet crack and rifle report. Three shots with bullet crack and rifle boom with signature indicating 145 yards, five shots slightly longer range, and the final shot fired near to the stage going the opposite direction.

The first three are the shooter, and the last one is the near counter sniper shooting back, the other five are in question.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2024 04:51 PM (lTGtQ)

I'd heard reports that the kill shot was from a dude in a tree, not the guys on the roof.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:56 PM (eoQWY)

412 What the heck did REDACTED do to get on the permanent poop list?

Am I allowed to ask?
Posted by: Brunnhilde

I watched as he was unbanned and then started throwing S**T immediately at Ace and Cobs.
Literally as soon as I saw him post the spout started pouring.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2024 04:56 PM (wNbrz)

413 where's the guy who says everything's an op?
Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (/7KEl)
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He was an op.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:56 PM (krQz2)

414 What's the big deal to have to resign if you are aligned with the left? Cheadle will get rewarded somewhere in the vast leftist networks of non‐profits, NGOs, corporate boards etc.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (mL/wV)

Tell them anyone who does that gets no government contracts. Ever.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 04:56 PM (eoQWY)

415 I’m a post op.

Posted by: Admiral Levine at July 19, 2024 04:57 PM (Y8lzz)

416 where's the guy who says everything's an op?
Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (/7KEl)
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He was an op.
Posted by: Axeman

Beat me to it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 19, 2024 04:57 PM (dZVON)

417 Nobody in their right mind would try to read Ace of Spades on a cellphone because margins blown make it unreadable.
At porn you can zoom.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Assassin Goober was led astray by the commonly uttered phrase here, "blown margins".

Posted by: Our Slope-Averse Secret Service (Win A Dream Date With Holster Hannah!)

Quick! Check on our trolls! Having to troll us from a phone would be enough to make anyone homicidal...

Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 19, 2024 04:57 PM (OUMaO)

418 405 where's the guy who says everything's an op?

Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (/7KEl)

Must be one of the tens of thousands CBD banned this year alone.

Posted by: Gref at July 19, 2024 04:57 PM (5fDan)

419 >>> 378 Conspiratorial thinking is infectious in an Empire of Lies.

Saying the SEC is in on something doesn't feel like a huge stretch.

No idea if it could be true or not (I think I lean towards not), but I get it.

Why trust them?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at July 19, 2024 04:50 PM (GBKbO)

They don't have to be in on it, to know or be told who is untouchable.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:57 PM (VavZF)

420 So Ace of Spades and pron are what this kid searched?
The vid of Paul and Sid working the glory hole drove him to try and kill Trump. Sounds plausible

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2024 04:57 PM (Zf6jY)

421 All the boosted cop and his partner had to do was yell gun on roof into their radio and if they were still thinking fire their weapon at least once.

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 04:57 PM (RReG+)

422 The anomaly of a YUUUUGGEE short filing IS coincidence enough. And I will cite that.

It's definitely another data point in the cluster.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:58 PM (krQz2)

423 405 where's the guy who says everything's an op?
Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (/7KEl)

That guy is part of the op.

Posted by: this comment is part of the op at July 19, 2024 04:58 PM (DctLG)

424 1008. Just saw a much better, non-cropped version of the dead shooter on the roof (at Karl Denninger's Ticker Forum Bar section, which you have to be a member to see).

Bullet entry was below the nose above the lip. Blood an brain matter visible.

It was NOT one of the snipers on the roof to the side of Trump you see in all those photos. The sniper who took him out was somewhere else, and they aren't saying where.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2024 03:43 AM (w6EFb)

Posted by: 13times at July 19, 2024 04:59 PM (ivi7W)

425 I thought the first part is you saying the filing did not match the transactions, so the order was legit and it's just a 'paperwork' error. So then someone ought to go to jail? Or do they have some sort of grace period to say 'ooopsie', even *after* the date of the order?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:54 PM (VavZF)

Grace period. If you find you made an error on your tax return, you can file an amended return. People do make mistakes.
Except for you, apparently.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:59 PM (JRP2U)

426 The Shirillery Left has been telling us about Trump dog whistles for years. They're using the dog whistles. Bet me folding money.

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 05:00 PM (RReG+)

427 I don't care what your eyes tell you, Bye-done says this guy ain't black:

https://t.ly/agvhu

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 19, 2024 05:00 PM (dZVON)

428 I'd heard reports that the kill shot was from a dude in a tree, not the guys on the roof.

Posted by: Oldcat

Either way, it was fired from close to the microphone, ie: shooting towards the building the shooter was on, not incoming towards the microphone.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2024 05:00 PM (lTGtQ)

429 423 405 where's the guy who says everything's an op?
Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (/7KEl)

That guy is part of the op.
Posted by: this comment is part of the op at July 19, 2024 04:58 PM (DctLG)

Thus, why he knows everything is an op.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2024 05:00 PM (exHjb)

430 The last search Thomas Crooks made on his cell phone before attempting to assassinate Donald Trump was for pornography, and he visited a terrorist site Ace of Spades HQ a senior law enforcement source tells the Daily Beast.
https://tinyurl.com/2cx8k797
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it!

So Crooks was one of the trolls? Which one has been missing all week? I've seen Rainmandoh.....

Posted by: mikeski at July 19, 2024 05:00 PM (TQ/A+)

431
So just to be clear we are assuming that he stashed the weapon somewhere on site ahead of time because he was seen without it, then seen with it.

He had a terlit hobo as his accomplice?

Posted by: Our Slope-Averse Secret Service (Terlit, Tourette's -- It's All Caca to Me) at July 19, 2024 05:00 PM (xG4kz)

432 Then, you are left with "You'd better believe it, you nutjob!" Which is how Power deals with fuckups.
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Some of which is astroturf on blogs insisting that people stop asking uncomfortable questions and just listen to the official, nonsensical story.

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 05:01 PM (Dnobf)

433 All the boosted cop and his partner had to do was yell gun on roof into their radio and if they were still thinking fire their weapon at least once.
Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 04:57 PM (RReG+)

They did do that.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 05:01 PM (eoQWY)

434 t was NOT one of the snipers on the roof to the side of Trump you see in all those photos. The sniper who took him out was somewhere else, and they aren't saying where.

==

are we sure it wasn't a suicide ???

Posted by: runner at July 19, 2024 05:01 PM (V13WU)

435 We have a government that when the CinC says "Let's pull out of Syria" thinks "We can outlast this guy." And I'm pretty certain Lindsay was in on the con.

Don't tell me we can trust DC.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 05:01 PM (krQz2)

436 Grace period. If you find you made an error on your tax return, you can file an amended return. People do make mistakes.
Except for you, apparently.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:59 PM (JRP2U)
****
I filed an amended return once. Never heard anything back from them. Waste of time chasing a couple hundred bucks

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 05:02 PM (RReG+)

437 433 All the boosted cop and his partner had to do was yell gun on roof into their radio and if they were still thinking fire their weapon at least once.
Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 04:57 PM (RReG+)

They did do that.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 05:01 PM (eoQWY)

Part of it...they yelled their head off, but forgot to shoot...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 19, 2024 05:02 PM (exHjb)

438 I wonder if leftists will ever wake up to the fact that their media lies to them every day - especially when it’s used against them like this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2024 05:02 PM (pgG81)

439 >> Then again, my boots don't match my truck and my man-purse.
Posted by: The Way It Is

give up.dude

you’re losing

Posted by: cherries are the best at July 19, 2024 05:02 PM (SNnZA)

440 Well, all in all I know less about the assassination attempt than I did few days ago. Except for the part where, Praise God, PDT is still with us. That's the important part for me.

The rest if all a fucked up shit storm.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at July 19, 2024 05:02 PM (Ad8y9)

441 >>> 406 I worked for a finance firm. A glitch in our software caused us to "move the market".

We weren't supposed to "move the market"--ever. It was part of our charter that our investment software would have a minimal effect.

We were investigated for *months* by the SEC and had to submit all sorts of documents on the root cause, and prove that it was not intentional and we were just hiding behind a claim of a glitch. We got put on probation. As well as shut down until we could prove that this glitch and other calculations like it was no longer in our software.

This experience convinces me that if you were to make a misfiling of 12 million shares, it's not just like Johnny pulling the power on the landing strip lights and OOPSIE! Did I do that?!

Oh, it's just a filing of a number that would likely move the market--we caught it later. Ooopsie.
Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:55 PM (krQz2)

I take it that 'finance firm' was not Austin Private Wealth or the third-party filing company? Interesting...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 05:03 PM (VavZF)

442 Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 04:42 PM (krQz2)

I was merely providing a link for people who wanted to see what he said on the Wed ONT.

Posted by: Emmie at July 19, 2024 05:03 PM (Sf2cq)

443 Just caught the last few minutes of a replay of Trump's RNC speech on one of the Pluto channels, The First. Yes, he seemed a little tired -- but the energy of the man and the clarity of his message was all right there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2024 05:03 PM (omVj0)

444 The last search Thomas Crooks made on his cell phone before attempting to assassinate Donald Trump was for pornography, and he visited a terrorist site Ace of Spades HQ a senior law enforcement source tells the Daily Beast.
https://tinyurl.com/2cx8k797
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it!

Dorcus Blimline, we hardly knew ye.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2024 05:03 PM (lTGtQ)

445 63 So just to be clear we are assuming that he stashed the weapon somewhere on site ahead of time because he was seen without it, then seen with it.

There's no other possible explanation for how that happened?

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 03:55 PM (Dnobf)
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I postulated this on day 1 as he wouldn't have been able to walk to the building with a rifle and maybe a ladder. He'd already inspected the site.

Posted by: Ciampino - It was in THE SHRUBBERY at July 19, 2024 05:03 PM (qfLjt)

446 Labor experiences first fiery but peaceful protests as “Asian” migrants hurl bricks, burn buses, and loot businesses in Leeds

Posted by: Hard Not To Laugh at July 19, 2024 05:04 PM (Y8lzz)

447 I have it on good authority at least one shot came from a grassy knoll.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2024 05:05 PM (JwHpX)

448 hollow earth, and they live on the inside.
Posted by: Oldcat

With Kong.

Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 19, 2024 05:05 PM (/NEnv)

449 We seem to be overlooking that the building the shooter was perched on was (absurdly) considered "outside the perimeter". So the immediate area around there would not have been swept for weapons. It was probably stashed somewhere near the building he used.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 19, 2024 05:06 PM (hOOi9)

450 430 The last search Thomas Crooks made on his cell phone before attempting to assassinate Donald Trump was for pornography, and he visited a terrorist site Ace of Spades HQ a senior law enforcement source tells the Daily Beast.
https://tinyurl.com/2cx8k797
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it!

That's a joke right ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2024 05:06 PM (IyPmt)

451 Some of which is astroturf on blogs insisting that people stop asking uncomfortable questions and just listen to the official, nonsensical story.
Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 05:01 PM (Dnobf)
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That the short was smaller is not "nonsensical", but it's definitely not something that "debunks" somethings since it came from an official source.

Masks were both debunked as working, and then debunked as not working (so wear TWO), that the virus came from a lab was "debunked" by official sources.

And people were threatened with the loss of their jobs for going against "the experts". And they silenced all the reviewers who said it had the marks of coming out of a lab.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 05:06 PM (krQz2)

452 I postulated this on day 1 as he wouldn't have been able to walk to the building with a rifle and maybe a ladder. He'd already inspected the site.
Posted by: Ciampino - It was in THE SHRUBBERY at July 19, 2024 05:03 PM (qfLjt)

But he did manage to get it to the secreted place on the site and from that site to the building and was not seen until he was on the roof.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2024 05:06 PM (eoQWY)

453 REDACTED was old as dirt, I used to like talking to him but who knows why he went all Joe Biden and started yelling at people for no apparent reason.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2024 05:06 PM (pgG81)

454 One could easily stash a rifle in the foliage of one of the four juniper/cypress bushes near the alcove seen on pictures of the buildings.

Posted by: 13times at July 19, 2024 05:07 PM (P/9oj)

455 The last search Thomas Crooks made on his cell phone before attempting to assassinate Donald Trump was for pornography, and he visited a terrorist site Ace of Spades HQ a senior law enforcement source tells the Daily Beast.
https://tinyurl.com/2cx8k797

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it!
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If I believed that, I would believe that it was on the "second phone" that the FIB "found".

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 05:07 PM (krQz2)

456 As an aside, JD Vance needs to keep his beard. I've seen a lot of mumbling about facial hair on a politician and so on. but without a beard he looks like a kid.

I shaved my beard earlier this year and my wife said, "Gah! Grow it back! You look like a giant toddler!"

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at July 19, 2024 05:08 PM (Ad8y9)

457 Or the tranny one in my name field that is likely why ALL of his social media was immediately scrubbed after the shooting. Possibly shortly before.
Posted by: Moron Robbie promises not to say told you so about the tranny shooter at July 19, 2024 04:00 PM (Gakra)

Tranny? Or just Goth hippie? One thing for certain: he has the classic aspect of a severe case of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2024 05:08 PM (g0oAz)

458 >>> 425 I thought the first part is you saying the filing did not match the transactions, so the order was legit and it's just a 'paperwork' error. So then someone ought to go to jail? Or do they have some sort of grace period to say 'ooopsie', even *after* the date of the order?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 04:54 PM (VavZF)

Grace period. If you find you made an error on your tax return, you can file an amended return. People do make mistakes.
Except for you, apparently.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 04:59 PM (JRP2U)

It was an honest question about the process. Why are you getting snotty? If I had been on the losing end of any type of transaction error, I'd be very eager to have it corrected ASAP.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 05:08 PM (VavZF)

459 I think someone was joking when they said the shooter looked at AoS on his phone. The article did not say that.

Posted by: Emmie at July 19, 2024 05:08 PM (Sf2cq)

460 Is there a grassy knoll in the area of the rally?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2024 05:08 PM (Zf6jY)

461 Officially, Governor Whitmer was kidnapped by a ring of right-wing nutjobs.

Officially, the FIB patsies were given their Constitutional rights of the accused.

Officially

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 05:09 PM (krQz2)

462 This is the worst security breach since Patton Oswalt shot Kennedy from the Book Suppository in Dallas.

Posted by: Norm Crosby at July 19, 2024 05:10 PM (V5BDR)

463 424 1008. Just saw a much better, non-cropped version of the dead shooter on the roof (at Karl Denninger's Ticker Forum Bar section, which you have to be a member to see).

Bullet entry was below the nose above the lip. Blood an brain matter visible.

It was NOT one of the snipers on the roof to the side of Trump you see in all those photos. The sniper who took him out was somewhere else, and they aren't saying where.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2024 03:43 AM (w6EFb)

---

Which direction is the blood spatter and brain matter. Draw a line from there through his head and project back to find the shooters position that got Crooks.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 19, 2024 05:10 PM (b+QiS)

464 There was a conspiracy to frame Trump as a Russian asset, and there's an ongoing conspiracy to bankrupt and imprison him, but no one would ever conspire to assassinate him. That's just be unsporting.

Posted by: High Trust at July 19, 2024 05:10 PM (DctLG)

465 This is the worst security breach since Patton Oswalt shot Kennedy from the Book Suppository in Dallas.
Posted by: Norm Crosby at July 19, 2024 05:10 PM (V5BDR)

Little fooker had to stand on a pile of dictionaries to see over the windowsill.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at July 19, 2024 05:11 PM (Ad8y9)

466 >>> 464 There was a conspiracy to frame Trump as a Russian asset, and there's an ongoing conspiracy to bankrupt and imprison him, but no one would ever conspire to assassinate him. That's just be unsporting.
Posted by: High Trust at July 19, 2024 05:10 PM (DctLG)

*tee hee*

Posted by: 2020 and 2022 election results at July 19, 2024 05:11 PM (VavZF)

467 Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2024 05:08 PM (Zf6jY)
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See 447. Yes there is a grassy knoll, known locally as Area 52, and a UFO had been reported in the area around the same time.

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2024 05:11 PM (JwHpX)

468 It was an honest question about the process. Why are you getting snotty? If I had been on the losing end of any type of transaction error, I'd be very eager to have it corrected ASAP.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2024 05:08 PM (VavZF)
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Yeah, that was weird.

People DO make ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MISTAKES--WHY ARE YOU SO JUDGEY!!

I'm telling you the SEC does not *tolerate* "orders of magnitude" mistakes in my experience.

But it might for some of the biggest investors....

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 05:11 PM (krQz2)

469 I found a paradise that's trouble -proof

Up on the Roof

-The Tranny Shooter

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 05:12 PM (YaTIT)

470 >>> 468
==
I'm telling you the SEC does not *tolerate* "orders of magnitude" mistakes in my experience.

But it might for some of the biggest investors....
Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 05:11 PM (krQz2)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Hillary! at July 19, 2024 05:13 PM (VavZF)

471
459 I think someone was joking when they said the shooter looked at AoS on his phone. The article did not say that.
Posted by: Emmie at July 19, 2024 05:08 PM (Sf2cq)

Do you mean to say that there are posts made in this forum that are not completely true? I am shocked to hear you say that madam, positively shocked!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2024 05:13 PM (pgG81)

472 I shaved my beard earlier this year and my wife said, "Gah! Grow it back! You look like a giant toddler!"
Posted by: Pug Mahon,
______

Having a beard keeps the skin underneath young and supple. Near impossible to look grizzled freshly shaved after having a beard for years. My wife had the same reaction, not the funny giant toddler part though, just the revulsion.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 19, 2024 05:13 PM (mL/wV)

473 POLL

A: it was a far-flung deepstate conspiracy

B: it was a tragic comedy of errors that allowed a nutcase to shoot at a President

Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 05:13 PM (/7KEl)

474 B

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 05:14 PM (YaTIT)

475 >>> 473 POLL

A: it was a far-flung deepstate conspiracy

B: it was a tragic comedy of errors that allowed a nutcase to shoot at a President
Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 05:13 PM (/7KEl)

Hi!

Posted by: the power of AND at July 19, 2024 05:15 PM (VavZF)

476 A: it was a far-flung deepstate conspiracy

B: it was a tragic comedy of errors that allowed a nutcase to shoot at a President
Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 05:13 PM (/7KEl)

Embrace the power of AND

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 05:15 PM (JRP2U)

477 That's a joke right ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2024 05:06 PM (IyPmt)

Yes, the link says his last search was for porn.

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 05:15 PM (Dnobf)

478 Question of the day:

Were Crooks' parents missing a ladder? Did Crooks buy a ladder in the days before the shooting? Did Crooks have a job where he used a ladder?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 19, 2024 05:15 PM (b+QiS)

479 Officially, Ray Epps, walking around like a moron, yelling "WE GOTTA GO *INTO* THE CAPITAL!" on January 5th has no connection to the government.

He was simply removed from the BOLO list. And despite texts to have "orchestrated" it, officially Krysinger--who was SOOOO VIOLATED--by people going *INTO* the Capital, feels that "Ray" is a pretty good guy, really.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 05:16 PM (krQz2)

480 Also, what evidence do we have the guy on the roof with a rifle and part of his skull missing was the shooter?

Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2024 05:16 PM (JwHpX)

481 C: And

Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 05:16 PM (/7KEl)

482 >>> 480 Also, what evidence do we have the guy on the roof with a rifle and part of his skull missing was the shooter?
Posted by: Weasel at July 19, 2024 05:16 PM (JwHpX)

I said so.

Posted by: Kim Cheeto, lesbian space witch at July 19, 2024 05:16 PM (VavZF)

483 Yes, the link says his last search was for porn.
____

First time ever that I'm curious as to what someone's p0rn search was. Normal, gay, trans?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 19, 2024 05:16 PM (mL/wV)

484 Question of the day:

Were Crooks' parents missing a ladder? Did Crooks buy a ladder in the days before the shooting? Did Crooks have a job where he used a ladder?
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 19, 2024 05:15 PM (b+QiS)

Was Crooks going long on short ladder futures?

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 05:16 PM (JRP2U)

485 A: it was a far-flung deepstate conspiracy

B: it was a tragic comedy of errors that allowed a nutcase to shoot at a President
Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 05:13 PM (/7KEl)

Embrace the power of AND
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 05:15 PM (JRP2U)
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Mentally, I even put C on the board:

C. Trump staged a near assassination.

I'm not above it.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 05:17 PM (krQz2)

486
That's a joke right ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2024 05:06 PM (IyPmt)

I may have embellished the AoSHQ part but the rest is in the article.
https://tinyurl.com/2cx8k797

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 05:18 PM (o3Uyl)

487 Yes, the link says his last search was for porn.
____

First time ever that I'm curious as to what someone's p0rn search was. Normal, gay, trans?

Posted by: Chuck Martel

Busty lesbian.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 19, 2024 05:18 PM (OUMaO)

488 What it looks like to me, so far is this.

He fired 3 shots, Trump ducked. I think out of sight of the shooter (although not behind steel barrier as it was not on sides.)

He then starts getting shot at from the ground. 5 or 6 shots but I think a couple were from the "local counter sniper team" that was "in the building" and is probably just a couple of range qualified LEO with long guns. He fired a few shots, still into crowd, but not specifically at Trump.

Final shot from far side USSS CS team on roof.
Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 19, 2024 04:48 PM (Fj9dJ)

This meshes with the audio analysis sponsored by CNN (yeah, I know) that somebody has in the comments above. 3 shots from "A" (which would be the shooter), 5 from "B" (apparently local LEO), and 1 from "C" (Secret Service).

But the 5 shots were from the same weapon.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 19, 2024 05:18 PM (hOOi9)

489 Stop with the ladder. It was a low building easily climbed onto.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 05:19 PM (YaTIT)

490 The Truth is out there.
*cue scary music*

Posted by: Moldy and Skully at July 19, 2024 05:20 PM (RReG+)

491 Busty lesbian.
____

Ah ok. So, normal then.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 19, 2024 05:20 PM (mL/wV)

492 This has the odor of mendacity.

Posted by: Burl Ives at July 19, 2024 05:21 PM (RReG+)

493 The ladder truthers are comical.

Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 05:21 PM (YaTIT)

494 A: it was a far-flung deepstate conspiracy

B: it was a tragic comedy of errors that allowed a nutcase to shoot at a President
Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 05:13 PM (/7KEl)

Whoever was in charge on site clearly slow rolled any response. That could just be opportunism from a typical government employee.

But somehow this particular shooter (who's no more nutty than the average MSNBC viewer) somehow managed to be there on this particular day when Trump's security was at it's weakest. How did he know that? Or was he just astronomically lucky?

Given the overt hostility federal careerists have expressed to submitting to citizen authority vested in Trump when he was in office the first time, and pretty much every time they're in front of Congress, A is far more likely than the idea that just got lucky with this guy.

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 05:21 PM (Dnobf)

495 Twelve foot to the eave.
Where's the ladder?

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 05:22 PM (RReG+)

496 Stop with the ladder. It was a low building easily climbed onto.
Posted by: Mr. Ray at July 19, 2024 05:19 PM (YaTIT)

Yeah, just listen to the account of the cop who tried to get up there. He only needed one other guy to give him a boost.

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 05:24 PM (Dnobf)

497 Oh great. His last online search was for Stormy Daniels.

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 05:25 PM (RReG+)

498 What if there was a nood and nobody came

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 19, 2024 05:26 PM (JRP2U)

499 Sen Chris Coons (Demon - DE) is among the FJB betrayers apparently
Don't listen. Brandon! Run like the wind!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 19, 2024 05:26 PM (FUHCU)

500 I do believe that DHS would send scrubs and backups to protect Trump, as a sort of "FU" move

but deliberately setting the stage for an assassination? I can't quite get there

Posted by: Don Black at July 19, 2024 05:26 PM (/7KEl)

501 Sorry if I frightened anyone posting my little made up spoof about Crooks online search. This must be how Orson Well felt after his War of the worlds broadcast.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 19, 2024 05:27 PM (o3Uyl)

502 Maybe the guy who boosted Crooks up on the roof handed him his rifle. Just spit balling here.

Posted by: torabora at July 19, 2024 05:28 PM (RReG+)

503 The Assassin Stashed His Gun Near the Trump Rally Before Retrieving It To Take His Shot, and the Secret Service Failed to Find It When They Did Their Insecure Security Sweep

It was in the shrubbery but the SS didn't hear a bustlen in the hedgerow.

Posted by: Ciampino - It was in THE SHRUBBERY? at July 19, 2024 05:29 PM (qfLjt)

504 A f**king guy on a f**king roof just pointed a f**king rifle in your f**king face at rally for the f**king President, you better do whatever the f**k you can to get on that roof or cause such a f**king commotion that it can be hear from f**King space.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Rocks?
Wait. The reason he didn't fire - he was holding on to the edge.
So two hands were free when he came down. That's one pistol.
His partner was boosting him up. That's two pistols.
Even if they were old timey revolvers that's twelve shots.
Even if they missed somebody (snipers inside) might have heard them.
Even if they missed it might have distracted the shooter.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 19, 2024 05:29 PM (B4c1t)

505 Hind tit again

Posted by: Braenyard at July 19, 2024 05:31 PM (B4c1t)

506 Given the overt hostility federal careerists have expressed to submitting to citizen authority vested in Trump when he was in office the first time, and pretty much every time they're in front of Congress, A is far more likely than the idea that just got lucky with this guy.

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2024 05:21 PM (Dnobf)
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That. Definitely that.

Posted by: Axeman at July 19, 2024 05:36 PM (krQz2)

507 They are also trying to blame it all on Iran ... no ways Iran will hire that jackoff as an assassin. This was deep state and deep stupidity all wrapped up in one

Posted by: Syvester at July 19, 2024 05:37 PM (aVXcE)

508 here is a sound guy who timed the recordings for bullet crack and rifle report. Three shots with bullet crack and rifle boom with signature indicating 145 yards, five shots slightly longer range, and the final shot fired near to the stage going the opposite direction.

The first three are the shooter, and the last one is the near counter sniper shooting back, the other five are in question.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2024 04:51 PM (lTGtQ)

From this description, it sounds like there was a third weapon (besides the shooter and the counter-sniper who got him) that was firing IN THE SAME DIRECTION AS THE SHOOTER. Am I getting that wrong?

Does that mean the official report of a second counter-sniper team is BS?

There is a "second shooter" theory, but with that theory there would only be ONE shot from the second shooter - that of a professional sniper.

A comment on a thread here a day or two ago purported to show evidence of a second shooter, but it didn't make sense either. It showed two bystanders going down from the same bullet, but they were NOT in line with Trump. It came from the direction if the water tower.

Nothing's making sense, in any way.

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Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 19, 2024 05:45 PM (2fIO4)

510 Thanks, AZ Deplorable. I hate to hear that. Ol' Redac was a pretty amusing and interesting dude. Too bad he seems to have lost it.

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