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THE MORNING RANT – Could Secretary of Defense Kurt Schlichter Rid the Military of DEI?
[Ace will be along shortly with extensive coverage of the media/Democrat wish-fulfillment extravaganza that took place in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday night.]
My apologies, but I’m traveling, so there is not much original writing from me today. Instead, I’m just going to extract a few paragraphs from a very disturbing story about DEI indoctrination in the military, and then follow with some stern advice from Kurt Schlichter on how President Trump needs to respond on Day 1 of his presidency to rid the military of its woke rot. “Space force commander who says he lost pension for criticizing DEI in military opens up on being betrayed” [Fox News – 07/05/2024]A former space commander is calling for a change of leadership after he was fired for allegedly criticizing the "Marxist" DEI complex, which he believes is now being accelerated under the Biden administration. Former Lt. Col. Matt Lohmeier was in the military for over a decade before he joined the U.S. Space Force in 2020, where he specialized in missile warning systems. But less than a year later, in May 2021, he was "betrayed," he told Fox News Digital in an interview. Lohmeier publicly spoke out against DEI training because he believed it was dividing the troops and decreasing morale, which affected military readiness. He believes "the DEI industry… is steeped in critical race theory, is rooted in anti-American, Marxist ideology." "The blow was severe," Lohmeier said about allegedly being fired for his dissenting views. "It makes you feel like you've been betrayed." He said it was a real "gut punch" when he lost his pension.
We need real military leadership again, starting at the top. We need a new commander-in-chief, but we also need a new Secretary of Defense, one who leads our military instead of managing it. He cannot be a bureaucrat cloistered in a fancy office in the Pentagon and hope to fix this mess. The Secretary of Defense, though a civilian, is in the chain of command, so he should command. He must get his intent out there in no uncertain terms. He must expect that his orders reforming the military be swiftly and efficiently carried out. And he must nuke any resistance he gets without hesitation or mercy. He must give the orders – not suggestions – to move the military toward his objective, a lethal combat-oriented force. The new SecDef needs to do that on Day One. He must immediately re-establish that the United States Armed Forces is a military organization and will function as such. This is a resource-tight environment – there’s no time or money for fluff or nonsense. Anything that does not go toward deterring or destroying America’s enemies must go. First, get rid of DEI. It’s done, over, gone. No more “X Month,” no more babble about how “diversity is our strength.” Our strength is our strength, meaning our ability to kill the enemy. The diversity pap posters come down, the civilian DEI personnel are terminated as excess, and any uniformed personnel in DEI slots are reassigned to real jobs. This will be accomplished in seven days; each joint chief will report personally to the SecDef that it has been done. When asked if his order has been carried out, the only acceptable answer is “Yes, sir.” Some of those joint chiefs will be new because some are getting retired on Day One. Second, the priority is fighting and the skills that go along with fighting. No more climate hoax nonsense, no more babble about green tanks, no more non-military military education—the military academies and war colleges have lost their way. Their job is to turn out killers. Too often, they turn out woke losers. Fire the heads of all the service schools and replace them with new leaders who get that their mission is to churn out fighters, not schmoozers. The new SecDef must take a hands-on approach to pick aggressive, capable future leaders within the force as George Marshall did with his legendary notebook of officers to watch. Scrap the boards and have the SecDef and his designees manage the officer corps directly. Personnel is policy. The SecDef must pick his team down to the O5 (lieutenant colonel and Navy commander) level. He needs to make short-notice trips to see what’s really happening elsewhere. “Ladies and gentlemen, this afternoon I am flying to – let’s see – how about Newport News to look at ships? I want a helicopter on the pad in an hour. Don’t tell the base commander. It’ll be a surprise.” And then he needs to go, along with some Navy subject matter expert straphangers, and ask questions like, “Admiral, why is that destroyer covered in rust instead of gleaming? Wait, let me ask your second-in-command because he’s now in charge since you are relieved.” But there will be covert resistance to the SecDef’s reforms. That’s why he must trim the Pentagon’s bloated civilian staff starting Day One. There is a lot of talk about how you cannot fire civil service personnel. That’s not so – you just have to do it right. And you don’t necessarily need to fire them – you can solve the problem by transferring them. Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alaska will get a bunch of new civilian workers.There’s much more, and it’s all just as good, so please give it a link. But I will contribute one original idea to this post today. Where will President Trump find someone with the vision to fix the military in the manner recommended by Kurt Schlichter? I have a suggestion… …Secretary of Defense Kurt Schlichter. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
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Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 15, 2024 11:00 AM (QNSds)
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I think so if anyone could
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2024 11:01 AM (jq/HH)
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Mister Scott you get them
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2024 11:01 AM (jq/HH)
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I doubt anyone one single person is going to be able to rid the military of the die garbage. They would have to purge the senior officer and enlisted ranks to accomplish that and I don't see that happening.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 15, 2024 11:01 AM (QNSds)
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He believes "the DEI industry… is steeped in critical race theory, is rooted in anti-American, Marxist ideology."
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I am glad that a Lt. Col. can see the obvious. That strikes me as a good thing for an officer to be able to do.
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I am glad that a Lt. Col. can see the obvious. That strikes me as a good thing for an officer to be able to do.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:01 AM (HnUIn)
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Top 5?
Posted by: Crouching Chigger at July 15, 2024 11:01 AM (gJLZZ)
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To purge this DEI from anywhere: It starts at the top. Start there.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 15, 2024 11:02 AM (pVWRI)
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I'd support Kurt as SecDef
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2024 11:02 AM (N1DT3)
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You know how Trump has been spending all of his time in NJ recently? The idea popped into my head that maybe he was trying to establish residency outside of Florida because he was going to pick Rubio or another Floridian for VP.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:03 AM (xPl2J)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:03 AM (LkLld)
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" Could Secretary of Defense Kurt Schlichter Rid the Military of DEI?"
Not if he knows what's good for him.
Not if he knows what's good for him.
Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2024 11:04 AM (AwYPR)
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Looking at that Trump picture, this our chance to take that fist symbol from the left. Everyone taking pictures with that fist in the air.
Of course we just aren't good at being collectivist drama queens, so we won't.
Of course we just aren't good at being collectivist drama queens, so we won't.
Posted by: Shiggz (defective slave) at July 15, 2024 11:04 AM (07M5u)
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On day one Trump needs to fire every O7 and above: all the generals and admirals. Appoint O6 to fill their billets while those billets are evaluated for elimination. There should be only one four-star in each service: the Joint Chiefs.
Posted by: BUTCH at July 15, 2024 11:04 AM (0APJ3)
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Kurt is a relentless self-promoter. Which is fine by me because he promotes his ideas, which are usually solid.
If he is angling for SecDef, that wouldn't be a bad thing!
If he is angling for SecDef, that wouldn't be a bad thing!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2024 11:04 AM (A3700)
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Thx Buck. Didn't earn it (DEI) is the perfect comeback for this crap
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2024 11:04 AM (yI5mB)
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I love this idea!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 11:04 AM (S6gqv)
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I think some defenestration in DC would work.
Posted by: Jim at July 15, 2024 11:05 AM (zhWvq)
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We need real military leadership again, starting at the top. We need a new commander-in-chief, but we also need a new Secretary of Defense, one who leads our military instead of managing it. He cannot be a bureaucrat cloistered in a fancy office in the Pentagon and hope to fix this mess.
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They don't know how, and those there now don't want leaders because leaders might be a threat.
When I was a kid, I tried to get a job at various big electronics stores (I was nerd, and I'd have been good at it). I never got hired at any of them, on any attempt. I then met someone who worked at one, and I asked him what I was doing wrong. He asked me, "did you say you had interest in management when they asked?" I replied, "I said that I would try it if they thought I'd be good at it." He said, "there's your problem. Store managers don't want to hire people who an express an interest in management. It isn't about what you know or if you can sell the product, it's about whether the store manager sees you as potential competition. If he does, he's not going to hire you."
These people are all those Best Buy and Circuit City and CompUSA store managers. They don't want "leaders."
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They don't know how, and those there now don't want leaders because leaders might be a threat.
When I was a kid, I tried to get a job at various big electronics stores (I was nerd, and I'd have been good at it). I never got hired at any of them, on any attempt. I then met someone who worked at one, and I asked him what I was doing wrong. He asked me, "did you say you had interest in management when they asked?" I replied, "I said that I would try it if they thought I'd be good at it." He said, "there's your problem. Store managers don't want to hire people who an express an interest in management. It isn't about what you know or if you can sell the product, it's about whether the store manager sees you as potential competition. If he does, he's not going to hire you."
These people are all those Best Buy and Circuit City and CompUSA store managers. They don't want "leaders."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:05 AM (HnUIn)
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SecDef Schlichter is an idea I can wholeheartedly support!
Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 15, 2024 11:05 AM (OUMaO)
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You know how Trump has been spending all of his time in NJ recently?
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I think there's no possible way Trump will ever live in a blue state again
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I think there's no possible way Trump will ever live in a blue state again
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at July 15, 2024 11:05 AM (DBZuM)
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Not sure that Jack Smith being fked up his butt isn't a big story
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2024 11:06 AM (jq/HH)
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>>If he is angling for SecDef, that wouldn't be a bad thing!
Being a very open and public DeSantis supporter is probably not going to work in his favor.
Being a very open and public DeSantis supporter is probably not going to work in his favor.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:06 AM (LkLld)
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Willowed: A father picking his son for veep smacks of Caesarism.
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"Really?" - Emperor Vespasian.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2024
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That one worked out okay, even though everybody was afraid -- after Titus's record as a tough Praetorian prefect -- that he'd be a terror like Caligula. But he was one of the good ones. Unfortunately he only ruled for about two years before dying of a fever.
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"Really?" - Emperor Vespasian.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2024
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That one worked out okay, even though everybody was afraid -- after Titus's record as a tough Praetorian prefect -- that he'd be a terror like Caligula. But he was one of the good ones. Unfortunately he only ruled for about two years before dying of a fever.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2024 11:06 AM (J2vNu)
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He'll have to excommunicate a shit-ton of contractors infected with DIE as well. This isn't just a DC problem now. It's universal.
Which means it's a good time for the Dot.Mil to stop relying on contractors. Also, they're evil. So, bonus.
Which means it's a good time for the Dot.Mil to stop relying on contractors. Also, they're evil. So, bonus.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2024 11:06 AM (IG4Id)
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You know how Trump has been spending all of his time in NJ recently? The idea popped into my head that maybe he was trying to establish residency outside of Florida because he was going to pick Rubio or another Floridian for VP.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:03 AM (xPl2J)
I wouldn't expect a truthful answer prior to the announcement but do we know, for a fact, that he wasn't meeting with CBD?
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:03 AM (xPl2J)
I wouldn't expect a truthful answer prior to the announcement but do we know, for a fact, that he wasn't meeting with CBD?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2024 11:06 AM (U7wke)
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Reagan turned down a VP slit with Ford in ‘76, ...
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Kamala was involved in politics in 1976??
[willowed]
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Kamala was involved in politics in 1976??
[willowed]
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 15, 2024 11:06 AM (Jh5b+)
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Second, the priority is fighting and the skills that go along with fighting. No more climate hoax nonsense, no more babble about green tanks, no more non-military military education—the military academies and war colleges have lost their way. Their job is to turn out killers. Too often, they turn out woke losers.
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This ignores a big part of the military business, which is military business. For fighting men, yes, absolutely - but logistics and production are huge parts of the equation and DEI hurts those just as much as boots-on-the-ground warfighting.
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This ignores a big part of the military business, which is military business. For fighting men, yes, absolutely - but logistics and production are huge parts of the equation and DEI hurts those just as much as boots-on-the-ground warfighting.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:06 AM (HnUIn)
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Kurt is a relentless self-promoter. Which is fine by me because he promotes his ideas, which are usually solid.
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Can a self promoting pundit translate into being an effective administrator who blow torches the deep state out of existence?
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Can a self promoting pundit translate into being an effective administrator who blow torches the deep state out of existence?
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at July 15, 2024 11:06 AM (DBZuM)
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On day one Trump needs to fire every O7 and above: all the generals and admirals. Appoint O6 to fill their billets while those billets are evaluated for elimination. There should be only one four-star in each service: the Joint Chiefs.
Posted by: BUTCH at July 15, 2024 11:04 AM (0APJ3)
Asking for a friend...Can a Retired O-6 apply? LOL
Posted by: BUTCH at July 15, 2024 11:04 AM (0APJ3)
Asking for a friend...Can a Retired O-6 apply? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 15, 2024 11:07 AM (pVWRI)
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He needs to make short-notice trips to see what’s really happening elsewhere. “Ladies and gentlemen, this afternoon I am flying to – let’s see – how about Newport News to look at ships? I want a helicopter on the pad in an hour. Don’t tell the base commander. It’ll be a surprise.”
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Surprise inspections? Those are white supremacy or patriarchy or some shit!
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Surprise inspections? Those are white supremacy or patriarchy or some shit!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:07 AM (HnUIn)
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Read Mark Loheimeier's book, it's a eye opener on how Cultural Marxism has taken over the military
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2024 11:08 AM (jq/HH)
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I'd like Schlichter as SecDef . The Dems would go batshit crazy (more than usual) over his Kelly Turnbull books. So go for it DJT , anything the pushes the Dems works for me
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2024 11:08 AM (yI5mB)
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I wouldn't expect a truthful answer prior to the announcement but do we know, for a fact, that he wasn't meeting with CBD?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Receiving souse vide cooking lessons.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Receiving souse vide cooking lessons.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:08 AM (NzK/m)
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So, anything happen since Friday?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 15, 2024 11:08 AM (LBKE7)
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Sounds good to me.
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at July 15, 2024 11:08 AM (elaR+)
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Kurt loves Mitch McConnell much more than Trump.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 15, 2024 11:08 AM (cf/0E)
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I turned on Fox News Saturday for the first time in 3+ years. I was surprised as it has taken a distinctly conservative turn. I approved.
Posted by: Xipe Tptec at July 15, 2024 11:08 AM (kzHlT)
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Asking for a friend...Can a Retired O-6 apply? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 15, 2024 11:07 AM (pVWRI)
You'd have to change service to the Air Force.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 15, 2024 11:07 AM (pVWRI)
You'd have to change service to the Air Force.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (U7wke)
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I read somewhere, don't know how true it is but the claim is there were four (4) star generals in WWII, and a 5 star, Ike. This was with 15 million men in uniform.
Today there are something like 45 four star generals
Today there are something like 45 four star generals
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (0YMin)
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I would like to see massive change in DC. After Saturday, so does Trump, I’m pretty sure.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (Aoykm)
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Die DEI Die
Posted by: Los Bushes at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (iHiQe)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
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I read somewhere, don't know how true it is but the claim is there were four (4) star generals in WWII, and a 5 star, Ike. This was with 15 million men in uniform.
Today there are something like 45 four star generals
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (0YMin)
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Executive bloat ain't just for the Fortune 500.
Today there are something like 45 four star generals
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (0YMin)
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Executive bloat ain't just for the Fortune 500.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (HnUIn)
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You know how Doom is like air around here?
Part of why the left wins so much is the massive psy-ops they run to convince they are powerful and invincible.
"Can't fire civil servants!"
Why? No one has tried yet.
And on and on. So many "can'ts" are ingrained in the right simply because it's never tried.
Look at Argentina now and tell me a Trump team couldn't replicate that here.
Part of why the left wins so much is the massive psy-ops they run to convince they are powerful and invincible.
"Can't fire civil servants!"
Why? No one has tried yet.
And on and on. So many "can'ts" are ingrained in the right simply because it's never tried.
Look at Argentina now and tell me a Trump team couldn't replicate that here.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig)
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Two 5 Stars: MacArthur
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (Aoykm)
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So, anything happen since Friday?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 15, 2024
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Not much. A trip to the grocery for me, a few minutes' babbling by F. Joke on the TV "news" . . .
. . . wait, there *was* something . . . don't tell me, lemme see if I can remember . . .
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 15, 2024
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Not much. A trip to the grocery for me, a few minutes' babbling by F. Joke on the TV "news" . . .
. . . wait, there *was* something . . . don't tell me, lemme see if I can remember . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (J2vNu)
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ConEd here in NYC keeps sending me "emergency alerts" about the "dangerous heatwave" and instructs me to "help" by lowering electrical usage. By which they mean turn off the AC. Sure, I can sweat while Democrat donors and illegal invaders jack up the AC.
I'll "help" all right: I’ll widen my stance to get a better angle when I drop my my junk in their gaping, flapping mouths. They’re getting the cock AND the balls. I absolutely despise these cocksuckers.
I'll "help" all right: I’ll widen my stance to get a better angle when I drop my my junk in their gaping, flapping mouths. They’re getting the cock AND the balls. I absolutely despise these cocksuckers.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (iFTx/)
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I saw VP Slit open for Ratt at Monsters of Rock in '88.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)
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The military leadership is so rotten, it'll be hard to find suitable replacements.
Maybe only promote those that state we need to go back to military readiness/fitness standards of 25 years ago.
Maybe only promote those that state we need to go back to military readiness/fitness standards of 25 years ago.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM (2fIO4)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM (vjiO5)
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I wouldn't expect a truthful answer prior to the announcement but do we know, for a fact, that he wasn't meeting with CBD?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Receiving souse vide cooking lessons.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table
If a "salt, not syrup for French toast" plank gets added, we'll know.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Receiving souse vide cooking lessons.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table
If a "salt, not syrup for French toast" plank gets added, we'll know.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM (OUMaO)
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... "Can't fire civil servants!"
Why? No one has tried yet. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig)
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I liked Ramaswamy's scheme for this. Don't know that it would work, but would be worth trying. No firings, just mass and random layoffs. Eventually you get rid of so many people that efficacy is reduced even if you can't target it.
Why? No one has tried yet. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig)
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I liked Ramaswamy's scheme for this. Don't know that it would work, but would be worth trying. No firings, just mass and random layoffs. Eventually you get rid of so many people that efficacy is reduced even if you can't target it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM (HnUIn)
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ConEd here in NYC keeps sending me "emergency alerts" about the "dangerous heatwave" and instructs me to "help" by lowering electrical usage. By which they mean turn off the AC.
PLUG IN THOSE ELECTRIC CARS!!!!
PLUG IN THOSE ELECTRIC CARS!!!!
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM (NzK/m)
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Surprise inspections? Those are white supremacy or patriarchy or some shit!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024
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The first thing we need are leaders who snort in contempt or laugh out loud, then simply ignore, such nonsense.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024
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The first thing we need are leaders who snort in contempt or laugh out loud, then simply ignore, such nonsense.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2024 11:12 AM (J2vNu)
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50 The military leadership is so rotten, it'll be hard to find suitable replacements.
Maybe only promote those that state we need to go back to military readiness/fitness standards of 25 years ago.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM (2fIO4)
And those that still present as their chromosomal gender...
Maybe only promote those that state we need to go back to military readiness/fitness standards of 25 years ago.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM (2fIO4)
And those that still present as their chromosomal gender...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2024 11:12 AM (exHjb)
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... "Can't fire civil servants!"
Why? No one has tried yet. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig)
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I liked Ramaswamy's scheme for this. Don't know that it would work, but would be worth trying. No firings, just mass and random layoffs. Eventually you get rid of so many people that efficacy is reduced even if you can't target it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Helicopter rides.
Why? No one has tried yet. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig)
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I liked Ramaswamy's scheme for this. Don't know that it would work, but would be worth trying. No firings, just mass and random layoffs. Eventually you get rid of so many people that efficacy is reduced even if you can't target it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Helicopter rides.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:12 AM (NzK/m)
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It’s hot? In July? In NYC?
God damn global warming!!!!
God damn global warming!!!!
Posted by: Los Bushes at July 15, 2024 11:12 AM (iHiQe)
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Question for the group:
Is any of this DEI shit in the military a result of legislation? Is the military compelled by any law(s) to implement this nonsense, or was it all just 'adopted' by some assholes at the Pentagon?
Is any of this DEI shit in the military a result of legislation? Is the military compelled by any law(s) to implement this nonsense, or was it all just 'adopted' by some assholes at the Pentagon?
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 11:12 AM (/7KEl)
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Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2 1h
Cannon:
Upon careful study of the foundational challenges raised in the Motion, the Court is convinced that Special Counsel’s Smith’s prosecution of this action breaches two structural cornerstones of our constitutional scheme—the role of Congress in the appointment of constitutional officers, and the role of Congress in authorizing expenditures by law.
The Framers gave Congress a pivotal role in the appointment of principal and inferior officers. That role cannot be usurped by the Executive Branch or diffused elsewhere—whether in this case or in another case, whether in times of heightened national need or not.
In the case of inferior officers, that means that Congress is empowered to decide if it wishes to vest appointment power in a Head of Department, and indeed, Congress has proven itself quite capable of doing so in many other statutory contexts. But it plainly did not do so here, despite the Special Counsel’s strained statutory readings.
Matt Gaetz @mattgaetz 1h
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Cannon:
Upon careful study of the foundational challenges raised in the Motion, the Court is convinced that Special Counsel’s Smith’s prosecution of this action breaches two structural cornerstones of our constitutional scheme—the role of Congress in the appointment of constitutional officers, and the role of Congress in authorizing expenditures by law.
The Framers gave Congress a pivotal role in the appointment of principal and inferior officers. That role cannot be usurped by the Executive Branch or diffused elsewhere—whether in this case or in another case, whether in times of heightened national need or not.
In the case of inferior officers, that means that Congress is empowered to decide if it wishes to vest appointment power in a Head of Department, and indeed, Congress has proven itself quite capable of doing so in many other statutory contexts. But it plainly did not do so here, despite the Special Counsel’s strained statutory readings.
Matt Gaetz @mattgaetz 1h
Future Supreme Court Justice Cannon
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Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 15, 2024 11:12 AM (Jh5b+)
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The military leadership is so rotten, it'll be hard to find suitable replacements.
Maybe only promote those that state we need to go back to military readiness/fitness standards of 25 years ago.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
E-4 Mafia.
Maybe only promote those that state we need to go back to military readiness/fitness standards of 25 years ago.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
E-4 Mafia.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:12 AM (NzK/m)
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10 The pace of enormous news breaking over the last couple of weeks is incredible.
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I was just thinking that. And now look at today: Judge Cannon goat-roped Jack Smith and Trump will announce his VP pick.
Events are coming at us fast and furious.
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I was just thinking that. And now look at today: Judge Cannon goat-roped Jack Smith and Trump will announce his VP pick.
Events are coming at us fast and furious.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 15, 2024 11:13 AM (woPEM)
63
I note CBD has not denied the speculation.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2024 11:13 AM (U7wke)
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We’d love to have your cock and balls!! After you turn the AC off. Our new guests need it more.
Posted by: ConEd at July 15, 2024 11:13 AM (Aoykm)
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53 ... "Can't fire civil servants!"
Why? No one has tried yet. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig)
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I liked Ramaswamy's scheme for this. Don't know that it would work, but would be worth trying. No firings, just mass and random layoffs. Eventually you get rid of so many people that efficacy is reduced even if you can't target it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM
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I like my idea.
Find regulations without great grounding in statute, especially those that have lots of employment tied to them.
Repeal the regulations in the name of Loper, and fire the federal employees doing the work of those regulations.
Why? No one has tried yet. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig)
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I liked Ramaswamy's scheme for this. Don't know that it would work, but would be worth trying. No firings, just mass and random layoffs. Eventually you get rid of so many people that efficacy is reduced even if you can't target it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM
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I like my idea.
Find regulations without great grounding in statute, especially those that have lots of employment tied to them.
Repeal the regulations in the name of Loper, and fire the federal employees doing the work of those regulations.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
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Today there are something like 45 four star generals
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There should be no 4 stars. 4 stars should be reserved for wars. No one today should share a rank with Patton.
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There should be no 4 stars. 4 stars should be reserved for wars. No one today should share a rank with Patton.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:13 AM (sX1BW)
67
ConEd here in NYC keeps sending me "emergency alerts" about the "dangerous heatwave" and instructs me to "help" by lowering electrical usage. By which they mean turn off the AC.
PLUG IN THOSE ELECTRIC CARS!!!!
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM (NzK/m)
But the electric cars are going to eliminate heatwaves!
PLUG IN THOSE ELECTRIC CARS!!!!
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:11 AM (NzK/m)
But the electric cars are going to eliminate heatwaves!
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:13 AM (xPl2J)
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Asking for a friend...Can a Retired O-6 apply? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup
DDS would gum up the operation even more. Dentists tell you to "Bite down". Not possible as only lower jaw is movable.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
DDS would gum up the operation even more. Dentists tell you to "Bite down". Not possible as only lower jaw is movable.
Posted by: Flossie at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (V5BDR)
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>>I liked Ramaswamy's scheme for this. Don't know that it would work, but would be worth trying. No firings, just mass and random layoffs. Eventually you get rid of so many people that efficacy is reduced even if you can't target it.
I like Trump's Schedule F plan even better. He did it once, he can do it again.
I like Trump's Schedule F plan even better. He did it once, he can do it again.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (LkLld)
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Maybe only promote those that state we need to go back to military readiness/fitness standards of 25 years ago.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
I bet the soibois in today's military even wash their coffee mugs.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
I bet the soibois in today's military even wash their coffee mugs.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (v6JzV)
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I liked Ramaswamy's scheme for this. Don't know that it would work, but would be worth trying. No firings, just mass and random layoffs. Eventually you get rid of so many people that efficacy is reduced even if you can't target it.
That would be idiotic. There are hardworking, conscientious Feds (ask me how I know), and if you get rid of them, you're getting rid of the nucleus you need to rebuild the CS with good people.
That would be idiotic. There are hardworking, conscientious Feds (ask me how I know), and if you get rid of them, you're getting rid of the nucleus you need to rebuild the CS with good people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)
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Two 5 Stars: MacArthur
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (Aoykm)
Was Nimitz a 5?....Marshall, too.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (Aoykm)
Was Nimitz a 5?....Marshall, too.
Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (AwYPR)
73
"Can't fire civil servants!"
Why? No one has tried yet.
And on and on. So many "can'ts" are ingrained in the right simply because it's never tried.
Look at Argentina now and tell me a Trump team couldn't replicate that here.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig
A lot of things change when you start offering helicopter rides.
Why? No one has tried yet.
And on and on. So many "can'ts" are ingrained in the right simply because it's never tried.
Look at Argentina now and tell me a Trump team couldn't replicate that here.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig
A lot of things change when you start offering helicopter rides.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (7+K68)
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If the were organized, they could do all kinds of really cool stuff in Congress. Especially the House.
There was a legendary letter carrier around these parts, just horrible. Would enter businesses and talk on the phone for an hour or two, and use bathrooms for an hour or two. Knew how to work the system. It is very difficult to fire someone for cause. I was told people complained all the way to the Postmaster General about this wack job.
What they can do, is get an amendment or rider to a bill, and set her pay at $1 a year to make it legal. That won't guarantee a "civil servant" will quit but they won't like it.
There was a legendary letter carrier around these parts, just horrible. Would enter businesses and talk on the phone for an hour or two, and use bathrooms for an hour or two. Knew how to work the system. It is very difficult to fire someone for cause. I was told people complained all the way to the Postmaster General about this wack job.
What they can do, is get an amendment or rider to a bill, and set her pay at $1 a year to make it legal. That won't guarantee a "civil servant" will quit but they won't like it.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (0YMin)
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I like my idea.
Find regulations without great grounding in statute, especially those that have lots of employment tied to them.
Repeal the regulations in the name of Loper, and fire the federal employees doing the work of those regulations.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
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There are around three million people in the federal workforce.
There's lots of room for the "power of and."
Find regulations without great grounding in statute, especially those that have lots of employment tied to them.
Repeal the regulations in the name of Loper, and fire the federal employees doing the work of those regulations.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
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There are around three million people in the federal workforce.
There's lots of room for the "power of and."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (HnUIn)
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The entire world has changed in fifteen days
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 15, 2024 11:15 AM (LBKE7)
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75 There are around three million people in the federal workforce.
There's lots of room for the "power of and."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (HnUIn)
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There are also contractors!
There's lots of room for the "power of and."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (HnUIn)
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There are also contractors!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:15 AM (GBKbO)
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Two 5 Stars: MacArthur
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (Aoykm)
Was Nimitz a 5?....Marshall, too.
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Yes, Bradley too ... but later, yes?
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (Aoykm)
Was Nimitz a 5?....Marshall, too.
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Yes, Bradley too ... but later, yes?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:15 AM (sX1BW)
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I read somewhere, don't know how true it is but the claim is there were four (4) star generals in WWII, and a 5 star, Ike. This was with 15 million men in uniform.
Today there are something like 45 four star generals
Posted by: Common Tater at
Look at pics of Ike in uniform and how many ribbbons etc, compare contrast that with Miley.
Today there are something like 45 four star generals
Posted by: Common Tater at
Look at pics of Ike in uniform and how many ribbbons etc, compare contrast that with Miley.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (CIS44)
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That would be idiotic. There are hardworking, conscientious Feds (ask me how I know), and if you get rid of them, you're getting rid of the nucleus you need to rebuild the CS with good people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)
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Untargeted random purging is the second-worst way to go about it. If that's the only avenue open, however, it's the only avenue open. The worst way to handle it is to do nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)
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Untargeted random purging is the second-worst way to go about it. If that's the only avenue open, however, it's the only avenue open. The worst way to handle it is to do nothing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (HnUIn)
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>>I was just thinking that. And now look at today: Judge Cannon goat-roped Jack Smith and Trump will announce his VP pick.
>>Events are coming at us fast and furious.
Had she done that 3 weeks ago it would be the biggest news of the campaign season but now it's just oh yea, Cannon just bent Jack Smith over, move along.
>>Events are coming at us fast and furious.
Had she done that 3 weeks ago it would be the biggest news of the campaign season but now it's just oh yea, Cannon just bent Jack Smith over, move along.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (LkLld)
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On day one Trump needs to fire every O7 and above: all the generals and admirals. Appoint O6 to fill their billets while those billets are evaluated for elimination. There should be only one four-star in each service: the Joint Chiefs.
Posted by: BUTCH at July 15, 2024 11:04 AM
We need to go back to the rank structure we had during WWII. Currently we have 10 times more Generals and Admirals than we did at the end of the war and our active force is nearly 10 times smaller. We let the military get top heavy.
Posted by: BUTCH at July 15, 2024 11:04 AM
We need to go back to the rank structure we had during WWII. Currently we have 10 times more Generals and Admirals than we did at the end of the war and our active force is nearly 10 times smaller. We let the military get top heavy.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (QNSds)
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Just saw a profile picture on Facebook of the rally shooter & Cha-ka from Land of the Lost.
Could be twins.
Could be twins.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (NzK/m)
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76 The entire world has changed in fifteen days
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 15, 2024 11:15 AM (LBKE7)
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The debate let people say, "Biden has no clothes."
The assassination attempt let people say, "Fuck you. I like Trump."
I saw some poll or other that said that Democrats have something like 30% enthusiasm while Republicans have enthusiasm in the 70s.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 15, 2024 11:15 AM (LBKE7)
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The debate let people say, "Biden has no clothes."
The assassination attempt let people say, "Fuck you. I like Trump."
I saw some poll or other that said that Democrats have something like 30% enthusiasm while Republicans have enthusiasm in the 70s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (GBKbO)
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George C. Marshall, who was the first to be named General of the Army on December 16, 194425.
Douglas MacArthur, who was promoted to General of the Army on December 18, 194425.
Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was commissioned as General of the Army on December 20, 194425.
Henry H. Arnold, who became the only five-star general in the Air Force on December 21, 1944125.
Omar Bradley, who was the last to be appointed as General of the Army on September 20, 19502
Douglas MacArthur, who was promoted to General of the Army on December 18, 194425.
Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was commissioned as General of the Army on December 20, 194425.
Henry H. Arnold, who became the only five-star general in the Air Force on December 21, 1944125.
Omar Bradley, who was the last to be appointed as General of the Army on September 20, 19502
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (Aoykm)
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Is it wrong to suggest it would likely require hangings?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (VavZF)
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I note CBD has not denied the speculation.
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I always thought the VP position was suitable for a dildo
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I always thought the VP position was suitable for a dildo
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (DBZuM)
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76 The entire world has changed in fifteen days
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July
It’s a little overwhelming all of the history we are watching in real time.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July
It’s a little overwhelming all of the history we are watching in real time.
Posted by: Piper at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (PRqXW)
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2024 11:17 AM (lCA8w)
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There are around three million people in the federal workforce.
There's lots of room for the "power of and."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (HnUIn)
You have to go after contractors, too...you have tons of those, and can't just switch back and forth...
You also have more ability to fix those contracts/contractors 1st...
There's lots of room for the "power of and."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (HnUIn)
You have to go after contractors, too...you have tons of those, and can't just switch back and forth...
You also have more ability to fix those contracts/contractors 1st...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2024 11:17 AM (exHjb)
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No, what really torques me in a way, is all these local city Police chiefs wearing 4 stars on their collars. I respect their profession, but that is just wankery of the worst sort.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2024 11:17 AM (0YMin)
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>>Can't fire civil servants!"
Why? No one has tried yet.
It was tried. It's called Schedule F. This actually happened and despite Biden repealing it Trump can do it again.
Why? No one has tried yet.
It was tried. It's called Schedule F. This actually happened and despite Biden repealing it Trump can do it again.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:17 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:17 AM (sX1BW)
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Trump is a resilient mf.
If he doesn't despair immediately after being shot, then I suppose we should not either. That's leadership.
If he doesn't despair immediately after being shot, then I suppose we should not either. That's leadership.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2024 11:17 AM (7WnGI)
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Is it wrong to suggest it would likely require hangings?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (VavZF)
It IS the documented punishment for treason.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM (VavZF)
It IS the documented punishment for treason.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)
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That would be idiotic. There are hardworking, conscientious Feds (ask me how I know), and if you get rid of them, you're getting rid of the nucleus you need to rebuild the CS with good people.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)
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Untargeted random purging is the second-worst way to go about it. If that's the only avenue open, however, it's the only avenue open. The worst way to handle it is to do nothing.
I'm not suggesting nothing be done. I'm suggesting targeted RIFs. Most employees know who's good and who isn't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)
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Untargeted random purging is the second-worst way to go about it. If that's the only avenue open, however, it's the only avenue open. The worst way to handle it is to do nothing.
I'm not suggesting nothing be done. I'm suggesting targeted RIFs. Most employees know who's good and who isn't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
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If everyone sends Sotomayor a Whitman's Sampler, by Jan 20, 2025 there will be a Supreme Court vacancy and Judge Cannon can waltz right in.
Posted by: A1C 27 at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (V5BDR)
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Fun fact: by legislation, no person shall ever be allowed to outrank George Washington
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (/7KEl)
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I saw some poll or other that said that Democrats have something like 30% enthusiasm while Republicans have enthusiasm in the 70s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I saw a poll yesterday that had CA at like 7 points, i know polls *spit* but lordy
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I saw a poll yesterday that had CA at like 7 points, i know polls *spit* but lordy
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (CIS44)
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There is a rank equivalent to six star. General Of The Armies. Only two have it, Pershing and Washington (posthumously).
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xPl2J)
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Fun fact: by legislation, no person shall ever be allowed to outrank George Washington
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Proper
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (sX1BW)
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Diversity, Equity, Inclusion Are Necessities in U.S. Military
Feb. 9, 2022 | By Jim Garamone, DOD News |
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Diversity, equity and inclusion in the military are necessities for the United States, Bishop Garrison, the senior advisor to the secretary of defense for human capital and diversity, equity and inclusion said.
Garrison spoke to the Center for a New American Security today about the progress being made by the department and what still needs to happen.
Some 41 percent of the military identify as members of minority groups, and that number will grow larger, Garrison said. The military must be able to attract, train and retain them for the services to retain competitive edges, he said. [...]
Feb. 9, 2022 | By Jim Garamone, DOD News |
You have accessed part of a historical collection on defense.gov. Some of the information contained within may be outdated and links may not function. Please contact the DOD Webmaster with any questions.
Diversity, equity and inclusion in the military are necessities for the United States, Bishop Garrison, the senior advisor to the secretary of defense for human capital and diversity, equity and inclusion said.
Garrison spoke to the Center for a New American Security today about the progress being made by the department and what still needs to happen.
Some 41 percent of the military identify as members of minority groups, and that number will grow larger, Garrison said. The military must be able to attract, train and retain them for the services to retain competitive edges, he said. [...]
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (Jh5b+)
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Five star generals/admirals:
- Fleet Adm. William D. Leahy
- Gen. George Marshall
- Fleet Adm. Ernest King
- Gen. Douglas MacArthur
- Fleet Adm. Chester Nimitz
- Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower
- Gen. Henry Arnold
- Fleet Adm. William Halsey Jr.
- Gen. Omar Bradley
- Fleet Adm. William D. Leahy
- Gen. George Marshall
- Fleet Adm. Ernest King
- Gen. Douglas MacArthur
- Fleet Adm. Chester Nimitz
- Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower
- Gen. Henry Arnold
- Fleet Adm. William Halsey Jr.
- Gen. Omar Bradley
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (U7wke)
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98 Fun fact: by legislation, no person shall ever be allowed to outrank George Washington
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (/7KEl
That's racist!
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (/7KEl
That's racist!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (7+K68)
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What rank did Pershing get?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (v6JzV)
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96 I'm not suggesting nothing be done. I'm suggesting targeted RIFs. Most employees know who's good and who isn't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
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First EO signed:
Any federal employee with pornography on their work devices is hereby fired and fined to the full extent possible for stolen time.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
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First EO signed:
Any federal employee with pornography on their work devices is hereby fired and fined to the full extent possible for stolen time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (GBKbO)
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On day one Trump needs to fire every O7 and above: all the generals and admirals
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I think the one hurdle Trump needs to clear is to drop the notion that he cant fire a fucking unconstitutional 4th branch of government because MUH CIVIL SERVICE PROTECTION LAWS
I think theres enough hay here to drop 95% of the government bureaucracy just based on the simple argument that its very existence is unconstitutional and an enemy of the republic
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I think the one hurdle Trump needs to clear is to drop the notion that he cant fire a fucking unconstitutional 4th branch of government because MUH CIVIL SERVICE PROTECTION LAWS
I think theres enough hay here to drop 95% of the government bureaucracy just based on the simple argument that its very existence is unconstitutional and an enemy of the republic
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (DBZuM)
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Diversity and inclusion are critical to future military readiness
By Kathy Roth-Douquet; The Military Times; May 17, 2022
The Defense Department’s greatest strength is its people. This is a truism among military leaders, and pairs with the observation that while we recruit the soldier, sailor, Marine, airman and guardian, we retain the family. Our all-volunteer force is famously and proudly diverse — people of every demographic, cultural, ethnic, religious, and racial backgrounds all serve for one purpose: to fight and defend this nation. Yet there have been blind spots in our ability as a nation to support this diverse force, and now is the time to acknowledge and address these gaps.
This week, a bipartisan group of over 30 former top defense officials, including former Secretaries Leon Panetta, Chuck Hagel, and Mark Esper, along with former service secretaries and chiefs, released a joint statement acknowledging diversity as an imperative for force readiness and calling on military and community leaders to rise to the challenge.
And this matters more now than ever. [...]
By Kathy Roth-Douquet; The Military Times; May 17, 2022
The Defense Department’s greatest strength is its people. This is a truism among military leaders, and pairs with the observation that while we recruit the soldier, sailor, Marine, airman and guardian, we retain the family. Our all-volunteer force is famously and proudly diverse — people of every demographic, cultural, ethnic, religious, and racial backgrounds all serve for one purpose: to fight and defend this nation. Yet there have been blind spots in our ability as a nation to support this diverse force, and now is the time to acknowledge and address these gaps.
This week, a bipartisan group of over 30 former top defense officials, including former Secretaries Leon Panetta, Chuck Hagel, and Mark Esper, along with former service secretaries and chiefs, released a joint statement acknowledging diversity as an imperative for force readiness and calling on military and community leaders to rise to the challenge.
And this matters more now than ever. [...]
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (Jh5b+)
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Trump is a resilient mf.
If he doesn't despair immediately after being shot, then I suppose we should not either. That's leadership.
Posted by: ...
He immediately pumped his fist and said "Fight! Fight! Fight!"
I swore he was saying "FU! FU! FU!"
If he doesn't despair immediately after being shot, then I suppose we should not either. That's leadership.
Posted by: ...
He immediately pumped his fist and said "Fight! Fight! Fight!"
I swore he was saying "FU! FU! FU!"
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (NzK/m)
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The fake documents case against Trump has been dismissed. Yay.
Posted by: huerfano at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (VGOMa)
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“ Donald Trump is a vulgar clown posing as a conservative, unmoored to any coherent ideology. He has generated unprecedented opposition and the contempt of people across the political spectrum. He is unbound to any principle other than his own appetite for adulation. And those very factors that make him so appalling also make him America’s only hope.”
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (SdP+s)
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What of the disposition of the "hush money" case? Will that be thrown out too?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (J2vNu)
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99 I saw some poll or other that said that Democrats have something like 30% enthusiasm while Republicans have enthusiasm in the 70s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I saw a poll yesterday that had CA at like 7 points, i know polls *spit* but lordy
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (CIS44)
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Yeah, polls (spit), but damn.
That's "Texas is going blue" levels of delusion, but if it at all reflects the reality of how badly Democrats are doing right now...
Damn...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I saw a poll yesterday that had CA at like 7 points, i know polls *spit* but lordy
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (CIS44)
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Yeah, polls (spit), but damn.
That's "Texas is going blue" levels of delusion, but if it at all reflects the reality of how badly Democrats are doing right now...
Damn...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
114
You have to go after contractors, too...you have tons of those, and can't just switch back and forth...
You also have more ability to fix those contracts/contractors 1st...
They can be fired at any time. When I was a Fed, starting under Reagan, there was a push to hire contractors for this reason. When the Dems came in, that all stopped.
You also have more ability to fix those contracts/contractors 1st...
They can be fired at any time. When I was a Fed, starting under Reagan, there was a push to hire contractors for this reason. When the Dems came in, that all stopped.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (xCA6C)
115
What rank did Pershing get?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (v6JzV)
See post #100
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (v6JzV)
See post #100
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (xPl2J)
116
There were eight five-star officers appointed near the end of WWII, four Generals of the Army and four Fleet Admirals. Hap Arnold, one of the Army five-stars, became a General of the Air Force upon its creation. The rank was retired in 1981 upon the death of Omar Bradley.
We currently have more admirals than ships in the Navy.
We won WWII with far fewer FOGOs, much larger forces, spread across the globe with far less advanced communications than we have today.
We currently have more admirals than ships in the Navy.
We won WWII with far fewer FOGOs, much larger forces, spread across the globe with far less advanced communications than we have today.
Posted by: BUTCH at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (0APJ3)
117
105 Never mind. I see my question was already answered.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (MkuC5)
119
111 “ Donald Trump is a vulgar clown posing as a conservative, unmoored to any coherent ideology. He has generated unprecedented opposition and the contempt of people across the political spectrum. He is unbound to any principle other than his own appetite for adulation. And those very factors that make him so appalling also make him America’s only hope.”
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (SdP+s)
Lots of people have changed their opinion of him since then.
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (SdP+s)
Lots of people have changed their opinion of him since then.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (7+K68)
120
Speaking of DEI insanity, did you know July is Disability Pride Month? Apparently it is.
Posted by: Los Bushes at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (iHiQe)
121
I think the one hurdle Trump needs to clear is to drop the notion that he cant fire a fucking unconstitutional 4th branch of government because MUH CIVIL SERVICE PROTECTION LAWS
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Constitution says otherwise. I'd love to see this put to the test. It won't, but I can dream.
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Constitution says otherwise. I'd love to see this put to the test. It won't, but I can dream.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (sX1BW)
122
Trump's head is going to be the largest thing in the solar system. It's going to be YUGE.
Posted by: torabora at July 15, 2024 11:21 AM (8NJgB)
123
4 I doubt anyone one single person is going to be able to rid the military of the die garbage. They would have to purge the senior officer and enlisted ranks to accomplish that and I don't see that happening.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)
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Massive Reduction in Force of active duty (aka RIF). Needed to do that anyway because simply put, our military is too expensive and we cannot risk wars with rival powers right now. If China moves against Taiwan, it will have to be missiles, subs, and airpower to counter-not a bunch of ground troops.
Ditto for Euroland and Russia.
We are going to have to move to the Israeli model of heavy reliance on reserves due to costs and pull in our commitments worldwide because of the impending fiscal problems.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)
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Massive Reduction in Force of active duty (aka RIF). Needed to do that anyway because simply put, our military is too expensive and we cannot risk wars with rival powers right now. If China moves against Taiwan, it will have to be missiles, subs, and airpower to counter-not a bunch of ground troops.
Ditto for Euroland and Russia.
We are going to have to move to the Israeli model of heavy reliance on reserves due to costs and pull in our commitments worldwide because of the impending fiscal problems.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:21 AM (mIs2x)
124
36 Kurt loves Mitch McConnell much more than Trump.
THIS. Despite all his tough-guy bluster, the Colonel is just another GOPe apparatchik. He proved that with his reactions on Jan 7, 2021.
THIS. Despite all his tough-guy bluster, the Colonel is just another GOPe apparatchik. He proved that with his reactions on Jan 7, 2021.
Posted by: tsj017 at July 15, 2024 11:21 AM (ZiGm9)
125
I was thinking of Kurt as Attorney General.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 15, 2024 11:21 AM (BzPAR)
126
109 Trump is a resilient mf.
If he doesn't despair immediately after being shot, then I suppose we should not either. That's leadership.
Posted by: ...
He immediately pumped his fist and said "Fight! Fight! Fight!"
I swore he was saying "FU! FU! FU!"
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (NzK/m)
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I do not get verklempt at politics. I have no emotional attachment to any politician.
The video of Trump getting up, forcing his detail to wait, and then letting up his fist to yell Fight gets me in the feels.
I doubt I'm the only one.
If he doesn't despair immediately after being shot, then I suppose we should not either. That's leadership.
Posted by: ...
He immediately pumped his fist and said "Fight! Fight! Fight!"
I swore he was saying "FU! FU! FU!"
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (NzK/m)
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I do not get verklempt at politics. I have no emotional attachment to any politician.
The video of Trump getting up, forcing his detail to wait, and then letting up his fist to yell Fight gets me in the feels.
I doubt I'm the only one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
127
I'm not suggesting nothing be done. I'm suggesting targeted RIFs. Most employees know who's good and who isn't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
Targeted at VERY specific almost 100% liberal departments...
Civil Rights Voting
DEI or its similar flavor departments/initiatives
Special Projects Departments
Regulatory Groups/Departments
Department of Ed
Etc...
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
Targeted at VERY specific almost 100% liberal departments...
Civil Rights Voting
DEI or its similar flavor departments/initiatives
Special Projects Departments
Regulatory Groups/Departments
Department of Ed
Etc...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2024 11:21 AM (exHjb)
128
Look at pics of Ike in uniform and how many ribbbons etc, compare contrast that with Miley.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM
You can't really compare Ike to other officers. Eisenhower was not a combat officer and never served in combat, he came from the general staff side of the house. He was extremely conscious of that fact so he only wore a couple of ribbons on his uniform.
But your point is correct, we have gone over board with medals and ribbons. When I retired I had 5 rows of ribbons some with multiple awards and I was only in a combat zone a couple of times.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2024 11:16 AM
You can't really compare Ike to other officers. Eisenhower was not a combat officer and never served in combat, he came from the general staff side of the house. He was extremely conscious of that fact so he only wore a couple of ribbons on his uniform.
But your point is correct, we have gone over board with medals and ribbons. When I retired I had 5 rows of ribbons some with multiple awards and I was only in a combat zone a couple of times.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 15, 2024 11:21 AM (QNSds)
129
The four, five, and six star police chiefs who fail and get fired somehow fail upward and become chiefs in the next larger city. Especially true for women and minorities.
Posted by: Observer of the Passing Scene at July 15, 2024 11:21 AM (V5BDR)
130
I would absolutely support Kurt Schlichter for DoD. I'd even send him a resume to come back just to be the janitor in the Pentagon.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2024 11:21 AM (W/lyH)
131
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (SdP+s)
He got better
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (SdP+s)
He got better
Posted by: blaster at July 15, 2024 11:21 AM (IFNME)
132
I'm not suggesting nothing be done. I'm suggesting targeted RIFs. Most employees know who's good and who isn't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
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The Pendleton Act might have something to say about that. The litigation would be interesting.
But if targeted layoffs fail, untargeted purging would work. Not as good, but it would still work. The collateral damage is quite a lot higher and it's unlikely to be as effective or efficient.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
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The Pendleton Act might have something to say about that. The litigation would be interesting.
But if targeted layoffs fail, untargeted purging would work. Not as good, but it would still work. The collateral damage is quite a lot higher and it's unlikely to be as effective or efficient.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)
133
There is a rank equivalent to six star. General Of The Armies. Only two have it, Pershing and Washington (posthumously).
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xPl2J)
I believe there is legislation such that Washington is granted any new rank required such that no US officer can ever hold higher rank.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xPl2J)
I believe there is legislation such that Washington is granted any new rank required such that no US officer can ever hold higher rank.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (U7wke)
134
Relieving Miley should be Trump's first action.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (sX1BW)
135
Speaking of DEI insanity, did you know July is Disability Pride Month? Apparently it is.
Posted by: Los Bushes at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (iHiQe
****
Is mental illness a disability?
Posted by: Los Bushes at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (iHiQe
****
Is mental illness a disability?
Posted by: torabora at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (8NJgB)
136
I do not get verklempt at politics. I have no emotional attachment to any politician.
The video of Trump getting up, forcing his detail to wait, and then letting up his fist to yell Fight gets me in the feels.
I doubt I'm the only one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
I was out at a bar when it happened and when he did that the woman next to me started crying and cheering.
The video of Trump getting up, forcing his detail to wait, and then letting up his fist to yell Fight gets me in the feels.
I doubt I'm the only one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
I was out at a bar when it happened and when he did that the woman next to me started crying and cheering.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (CIS44)
137
There are around three million people in the federal workforce.
Their hosts are about to shake them off.
Their hosts are about to shake them off.
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (fDXgc)
138
“ Donald Trump is a vulgar clown posing as a conservative, unmoored to any coherent ideology. He has generated unprecedented opposition and the contempt of people across the political spectrum. He is unbound to any principle other than his own appetite for adulation. And those very factors that make him so appalling also make him America’s only hope.”
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
There were a lot of us in 2015 and 2016 who thought that. We were wrong.
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
There were a lot of us in 2015 and 2016 who thought that. We were wrong.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C)
139
I don't like the conspiracy talk from earlier that Joe's speech was a rewrite of the original being Trump was killed.
Cause it's too plausible.
And I don't like being in a country like that.
Cause it's too plausible.
And I don't like being in a country like that.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (oCvig)
140
What about Grant and Sherman? What were their ranks?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:23 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:23 AM (7+K68)
142
Maybe. But as a strong navalist I'm suspicious of army officers as SecDef. Ike was OK, but Grant was terrible for the navy. And that despite having shown an understanding of its use, albeit in riverine contexts.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 15, 2024 11:23 AM (1bNHn)
143
If Trump doesn’t fire every DOJ asshole, he’s not been paying attention./
Move the FBI out of Washington and re-assign every agent to a field office. Keep the labs and forensic types in Dc, but run everyone else out.
Immolate the EPA
Nuke the DOEnergy
Shut down the DOEdumacation
Move the FBI out of Washington and re-assign every agent to a field office. Keep the labs and forensic types in Dc, but run everyone else out.
Immolate the EPA
Nuke the DOEnergy
Shut down the DOEdumacation
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 15, 2024 11:24 AM (Aoykm)
144
I believe there is legislation such that Washington is granted any new rank required such that no US officer can ever hold higher rank.
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There is. Passed in 1976 at our semiquicentially (sp) during a time when both parties celebrated America.
It was right and proper and as it should be.
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There is. Passed in 1976 at our semiquicentially (sp) during a time when both parties celebrated America.
It was right and proper and as it should be.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:24 AM (sX1BW)
145
>>> 134 Relieving Miley should be Trump's first action.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (sX1BW)
With a trebuchet?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (sX1BW)
With a trebuchet?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2024 11:24 AM (VavZF)
146
“ Lots of people have changed their opinion of him since then.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (7+K6
”
He’s written numerous times since some pretty unflattering pieces. Which is fine. You should always have thick skin and listen to people who don’t agree with you. But I think his dismissive tone, lack of respect and penchant for pejoratives is a red flag.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:20 AM (7+K6
”
He’s written numerous times since some pretty unflattering pieces. Which is fine. You should always have thick skin and listen to people who don’t agree with you. But I think his dismissive tone, lack of respect and penchant for pejoratives is a red flag.
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:24 AM (SdP+s)
147
Jack Black has stuck his foot in it yet again.
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
Lovely.
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
Lovely.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (jGGMD)
148
There is. Passed in 1976 at our semiquicentially (sp) during a time when both parties celebrated America.
It was right and proper and as it should be.
Posted by: SH
'76 was the bicentennial.
It was right and proper and as it should be.
Posted by: SH
'76 was the bicentennial.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (v6JzV)
149
The grade is sometimes described as a six-star general, as being senior to the five-star grade of General of the Army, but no six-star insignia was ever officially created and Pershing, the only person to be General of the Armies during his own lifetime, never wore more than four stars.
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (/7KEl)
150
121 I think the one hurdle Trump needs to clear is to drop the notion that he cant fire a fucking unconstitutional 4th branch of government because MUH CIVIL SERVICE PROTECTION LAWS
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Constitution says otherwise. I'd love to see this put to the test. It won't, but I can dream.
Posted by: SH
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There is a perfectly constitutional way to eliminate masses of civil service progs. RIFs due to budget cuts are an exception to civil service protections.
Congress cannot stop it either if the RIFS are related to vetoes of spending bills funding agencies. To make that work, Trump is going to have to confront Congress which has created the whole civil service mess and use the spending bills as leverage--no more omnibus nor continuing resolutions should be signed.
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Constitution says otherwise. I'd love to see this put to the test. It won't, but I can dream.
Posted by: SH
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There is a perfectly constitutional way to eliminate masses of civil service progs. RIFs due to budget cuts are an exception to civil service protections.
Congress cannot stop it either if the RIFS are related to vetoes of spending bills funding agencies. To make that work, Trump is going to have to confront Congress which has created the whole civil service mess and use the spending bills as leverage--no more omnibus nor continuing resolutions should be signed.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (mIs2x)
151
If Trump doesn’t fire every DOJ asshole, he’s not been paying attention.
***************
Yes, less business as usual trump
more imma burn this motherfucka down trump
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Yes, less business as usual trump
more imma burn this motherfucka down trump
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (DBZuM)
Posted by: Vincent LaGuardia Gambini, Esq. at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (ZANHd)
153
What about Grant and Sherman? What were their ranks?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:23 AM (v6JzV)
Lt. Gen. (3 star), I think.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:23 AM (v6JzV)
Lt. Gen. (3 star), I think.
Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (AwYPR)
154
I'm not suggesting nothing be done. I'm suggesting targeted RIFs. Most employees know who's good and who isn't.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
Targeted at VERY specific almost 100% liberal departments...
Civil Rights Voting
DEI or its similar flavor departments/initiatives
Special Projects Departments
Regulatory Groups/Departments
Department of Ed
Etc...
It will probably be easier to get rid of departments that individuals, although those individuals would presumably then get bumping rights. It can be done, but it has to be done very carefully, to minimize the lawsuits.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)
Targeted at VERY specific almost 100% liberal departments...
Civil Rights Voting
DEI or its similar flavor departments/initiatives
Special Projects Departments
Regulatory Groups/Departments
Department of Ed
Etc...
It will probably be easier to get rid of departments that individuals, although those individuals would presumably then get bumping rights. It can be done, but it has to be done very carefully, to minimize the lawsuits.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (xCA6C)
155
I'm not suggesting nothing be done. I'm suggesting targeted RIFs. Most employees know who's good and who isn't.
Posted by: Archimedes
If there was a way to remove the sociopaths, you'd be half way there....
OOOOH OOOH HALF WAY THERE~!
Posted by: Archimedes
If there was a way to remove the sociopaths, you'd be half way there....
OOOOH OOOH HALF WAY THERE~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (IG4Id)
156
>>> 147 Jack Black has stuck his foot in it yet again.
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
Lovely.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (jGGMD)
If he gets what he *thinks* he wants, he will find out he really did *not* want that.
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
Lovely.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (jGGMD)
If he gets what he *thinks* he wants, he will find out he really did *not* want that.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (VavZF)
157
'76 was the bicentennial.
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Eh, its latin. I should have just said the 200th anniversary since the declaration.
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Eh, its latin. I should have just said the 200th anniversary since the declaration.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (sX1BW)
158
Schlichter could only be a thousand times better.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (d2bW3)
159
150 Congress cannot stop it either if the RIFS are related to vetoes of spending bills funding agencies. To make that work, Trump is going to have to confront Congress which has created the whole civil service mess and use the spending bills as leverage--no more omnibus nor continuing resolutions should be signed.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (mIs2x)
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Trump shut down the government for a whole month during his first administration.
He was fighting his own party at the time.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (mIs2x)
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Trump shut down the government for a whole month during his first administration.
He was fighting his own party at the time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (GBKbO)
160
And those very factors that make him so appalling also make him America’s only hope.”
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
Kurt was on what is currently the very last episode of the HQ Podcast (not Cut Jib) around that time and Ace wasn’t sold on Trump then either. It was a very funny hour though.
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
Kurt was on what is currently the very last episode of the HQ Podcast (not Cut Jib) around that time and Ace wasn’t sold on Trump then either. It was a very funny hour though.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (FD5dr)
161
That one worked out okay, even though everybody was afraid -- after Titus's record as a tough Praetorian prefect -- that he'd be a terror like Caligula. But he was one of the good ones. Unfortunately he only ruled for about two years before dying of a fever.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2024 11:06 AM (J2vNu)
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Vespasian was all set to finally put down the Jewish rebellion when his legions declared him Caesar. So he went to Rome and left his son in charge and boy was it a doozy.
It so happened that Jerusalem was chock full of about 3 million Jews for one of their annual festivals when Titus laid siege to the Holy City. The Jews wouldn't surrender and the SHTF almost immediately for them as God poured out his bowls of wrath and unleashed his four horsemen.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2024 11:06 AM (J2vNu)
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Vespasian was all set to finally put down the Jewish rebellion when his legions declared him Caesar. So he went to Rome and left his son in charge and boy was it a doozy.
It so happened that Jerusalem was chock full of about 3 million Jews for one of their annual festivals when Titus laid siege to the Holy City. The Jews wouldn't surrender and the SHTF almost immediately for them as God poured out his bowls of wrath and unleashed his four horsemen.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 11:26 AM (2fIO4)
162
I wonder if overturning Chevron will make it easier to downsize regulatory agencies?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (tT6L1)
163
I want the VP to walk into the Senate on day one and step up to a microphone and say...
Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate
I despise each and every one of you. My job, my mission, is to make all of you to do what is best for our country and our citizens. Many of you prefer to do what is best for your party, your bank account, or your foreign benefactor. That ends now. You can either put America and American citizens first, or I can make your life utterly wretched.
Have a nice day!
Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate
I despise each and every one of you. My job, my mission, is to make all of you to do what is best for our country and our citizens. Many of you prefer to do what is best for your party, your bank account, or your foreign benefactor. That ends now. You can either put America and American citizens first, or I can make your life utterly wretched.
Have a nice day!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (4XwPj)
164
>>He’s written numerous times since some pretty unflattering pieces. Which is fine. You should always have thick skin and listen to people who don’t agree with you. But I think his dismissive tone, lack of respect and penchant for pejoratives is a red flag.
He was literally one of DeSantis' biggest and most vocal supporters right up until the moment he dropped out.
There are plenty of other candidates who have excellent pedigrees that actually supported Trump.
He was literally one of DeSantis' biggest and most vocal supporters right up until the moment he dropped out.
There are plenty of other candidates who have excellent pedigrees that actually supported Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (LkLld)
165
What about Grant and Sherman? What were their ranks?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:23 AM (v6JzV)
Lt. Gen. (3 star), I think.
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Let's just say that I think technically Milley outranks them.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:23 AM (v6JzV)
Lt. Gen. (3 star), I think.
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Let's just say that I think technically Milley outranks them.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (sX1BW)
166
From Wikipedia:
The grade is sometimes described as a six-star general, as being senior to the five-star grade of General of the Army, but no six-star insignia was ever officially created and Pershing, the only person to be General of the Armies during his own lifetime, never wore more than four stars. Whether Pershing's grade should rank as four, five, or six stars has been a subject of debate ever since the five-star grades were created in 1944. To make Washington unambiguously the highest ranking Army officer in 1976, Congress specified that his new grade of General of the Armies ranked above all other grades of the Army, past or present.
The grade is sometimes described as a six-star general, as being senior to the five-star grade of General of the Army, but no six-star insignia was ever officially created and Pershing, the only person to be General of the Armies during his own lifetime, never wore more than four stars. Whether Pershing's grade should rank as four, five, or six stars has been a subject of debate ever since the five-star grades were created in 1944. To make Washington unambiguously the highest ranking Army officer in 1976, Congress specified that his new grade of General of the Armies ranked above all other grades of the Army, past or present.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (xPl2J)
167
Congress cannot stop it either if the RIFS are related to vetoes of spending bills funding agencies. To make that work, Trump is going to have to confront Congress which has created the whole civil service mess and use the spending bills as leverage--no more omnibus nor continuing resolutions should be signed.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (mIs2x
The whole balanced budget thing went right out the window with a loophole.
Congress cannot stop it either if the RIFS are related to vetoes of spending bills funding agencies. To make that work, Trump is going to have to confront Congress which has created the whole civil service mess and use the spending bills as leverage--no more omnibus nor continuing resolutions should be signed.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (mIs2x
The whole balanced budget thing went right out the window with a loophole.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (7+K68)
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Kurt has some good ideas, but he fails to address the 90,000 pound elephant in the room dressed in a tutu batting eyes and whispering "hey big boy." And that is how to get the billions of dollars of nice fat defense industry bribes out of the system. The US military ceased to be an actual military a while ago, before it went woke. It became little more than money-printing apparatus for the defense industry.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (iFTx/)
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We need mean bastards whose only purpose in life is to whip more men into being mean bastards.
That's what the military is supposed to be.
That's what the military is supposed to be.
Posted by: XTC at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (UnA8+)
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@111 that quote from Schlicter ended with "America's only hope"
Given the GOPe I would say that was spot on
Given the GOPe I would say that was spot on
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (yI5mB)
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Every time I read about DEI, my first thought is that this comes from Chinese money. They're taking over the US without firing a shot.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (WPL6O)
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Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alaska will get a bunch of new civilian workers.
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Greenland FTW!
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Greenland FTW!
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (D9NlX)
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147 Jack Black has stuck his foot in it yet again.
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
Lovely.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (jGGMD)
Is he still in Europe? He should have his passport revoked......
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
Lovely.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (jGGMD)
Is he still in Europe? He should have his passport revoked......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
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MSNBC could not put 'Morning Joe' on the air today because they know one of their guests would have blurted out the what the lefties all wished would have happened Saturday evening.
Sad!
Sad!
Posted by: Jay in PA at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (i7Q7S)
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162 I wonder if overturning Chevron will make it easier to downsize regulatory agencies?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (tT6L1)
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"This regulation has no basis in statute. I am repealing this regulation. Oh, 143 people are employed in the department simply to enforce this one regulation that's now no longer in force? Well, I guess they can find other work then."
"We're going to sue you!"
*laugh in Loper*
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (tT6L1)
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"This regulation has no basis in statute. I am repealing this regulation. Oh, 143 people are employed in the department simply to enforce this one regulation that's now no longer in force? Well, I guess they can find other work then."
"We're going to sue you!"
*laugh in Loper*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
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Jack Black has stuck his foot in it yet again.
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
Lovely.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (jGGMD)
Maybe he meant to be sure to see one of his rallys. /s
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
Lovely.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (jGGMD)
Maybe he meant to be sure to see one of his rallys. /s
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (JRP2U)
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General of the Armies of the United States, more commonly referred to as General of the Armies, is the highest military rank in the United States. The rank has been conferred three times: to John J. Pershing in 1919, as a personal accolade for his command of the American Expeditionary Forces during World War I; to George Washington in 1976, as a posthumous honor during the United States Bicentennial celebrations; and to Ulysses S. Grant in December 2022, when Congress authorized the president to posthumously appoint him to the rank.[1][2][3]
source = wiki
source = wiki
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (/7KEl)
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>>> 163 I want the VP to walk into the Senate on day one and step up to a microphone and say...
Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate
I despise each and every one of you. My job, my mission, is to make all of you to do what is best for our country and our citizens. Many of you prefer to do what is best for your party, your bank account, or your foreign benefactor. That ends now. You can either put America and American citizens first, or I can make your life utterly wretched.
Have a nice day!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (4XwPj)
Well.
THIS is now my 'litmus test' for VP candidates.
Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate
I despise each and every one of you. My job, my mission, is to make all of you to do what is best for our country and our citizens. Many of you prefer to do what is best for your party, your bank account, or your foreign benefactor. That ends now. You can either put America and American citizens first, or I can make your life utterly wretched.
Have a nice day!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM (4XwPj)
Well.
THIS is now my 'litmus test' for VP candidates.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (VavZF)
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I’m willing to give people a lot of rope. For example, I think people like Tulsi Gabbard are great additions to the party. Why? Because often, converts have seen the other side and become the staunchest of supporters. If genuine, she’s become pretty hardcore and truly appreciates liberty.
Schlicter is one of those people who is hot and cold. I’ve learned you can’t always count on people like that. Maybe it’s the lawyer in him. Maybe not. But either way I feel like there are better choices.
Schlicter is one of those people who is hot and cold. I’ve learned you can’t always count on people like that. Maybe it’s the lawyer in him. Maybe not. But either way I feel like there are better choices.
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (SdP+s)
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“Admiral, why is that destroyer covered in rust instead of gleaming? Wait, let me ask your second-in-command because he’s now in charge since you are relieved.”
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OK, rust is a legit reason. Actual rust. But gleaming?
You know, the contrast in the Caine Mutiny between Capts De Vries and Queeg actually had happened in the RN's Grand Fleet in WWI. HMS Erin's captain didn't obsess over looks, while that of HMS Agincourt did*. From what I've read, it worked, as it did in the novel.
*They usually moored close to one another, not being actual RN designs. They were the two Turkish dreadnoughts taken over in 1914.
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OK, rust is a legit reason. Actual rust. But gleaming?
You know, the contrast in the Caine Mutiny between Capts De Vries and Queeg actually had happened in the RN's Grand Fleet in WWI. HMS Erin's captain didn't obsess over looks, while that of HMS Agincourt did*. From what I've read, it worked, as it did in the novel.
*They usually moored close to one another, not being actual RN designs. They were the two Turkish dreadnoughts taken over in 1914.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 15, 2024 11:29 AM (1bNHn)
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178 Well.
THIS is now my 'litmus test' for VP candidates.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (VavZF)
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And every cabinet member walking into the departments for the first day.
THIS is now my 'litmus test' for VP candidates.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (VavZF)
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And every cabinet member walking into the departments for the first day.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
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> I like Trump's Schedule F plan even better. He did it once, he can do it again.
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On day one. It will be litigated to death otherwise. Of course its implementation will be slow walked by the bureaucracy in the hopes it will die on the vine.
And there's no guarantee the next Democrat (or uniparty Republican) wouldn't terminate it on their first day. Unless there's a way around that.
But it is a way to trim the bureaucracy of the embedded ticks. If you can keep it running long enough.
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On day one. It will be litigated to death otherwise. Of course its implementation will be slow walked by the bureaucracy in the hopes it will die on the vine.
And there's no guarantee the next Democrat (or uniparty Republican) wouldn't terminate it on their first day. Unless there's a way around that.
But it is a way to trim the bureaucracy of the embedded ticks. If you can keep it running long enough.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2024 11:29 AM (Q4IgG)
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Move the FBI out of Washington and re-assign every agent to a field office. Keep the labs and forensic types in Dc, but run everyone else out.
Posted by: Jak Sucio
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Labs are in Virginia I think and the whole fingerprinting, etc. was moved to W.Va thanks to Sen. Byrd years ago.
Most of DC needs to be ceded back to Maryland anyway except for the federal buildings centered around the Mall. That would eliminate a lot of problems. In the 1840's, the original portion of DC that was across the Potomac was ceded back to Virginia.
Posted by: Jak Sucio
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Labs are in Virginia I think and the whole fingerprinting, etc. was moved to W.Va thanks to Sen. Byrd years ago.
Most of DC needs to be ceded back to Maryland anyway except for the federal buildings centered around the Mall. That would eliminate a lot of problems. In the 1840's, the original portion of DC that was across the Potomac was ceded back to Virginia.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:29 AM (mIs2x)
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147 Jack Black has stuck his foot in it yet again.
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
Lovely.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (jGGMD)
His 15 minutes of fame were over 90 minutes ago.
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
Lovely.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 15, 2024 11:25 AM (jGGMD)
His 15 minutes of fame were over 90 minutes ago.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (N39Ws)
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Most of DC needs to be ceded back to Maryland anyway except for the federal buildings centered around the Mall. That would eliminate a lot of problems. In the 1840's, the original portion of DC that was across the Potomac was ceded back to Virginia.
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I prefer DC take back the parts of VA it reclaimed.
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I prefer DC take back the parts of VA it reclaimed.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (sX1BW)
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183 Most of DC needs to be ceded back to Maryland anyway except for the federal buildings centered around the Mall. That would eliminate a lot of problems. In the 1840's, the original portion of DC that was across the Potomac was ceded back to Virginia.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:29 AM (mIs2x)
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Not one person should have a DC address.
The president needs to have a PO box in Arlington.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:29 AM (mIs2x)
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Not one person should have a DC address.
The president needs to have a PO box in Arlington.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (GBKbO)
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I want the VP to walk into the Senate on day one and step up to a microphone and say...
Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate
I despise each and every one of you. My job, my mission, is to make all of you to do what is best for our country and our citizens. Many of you prefer to do what is best for your party, your bank account, or your foreign benefactor. That ends now. You can either put America and American citizens first, or I can make your life utterly wretched.
Have a nice day!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM
Shorter:
Fuck you. War.
Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate
I despise each and every one of you. My job, my mission, is to make all of you to do what is best for our country and our citizens. Many of you prefer to do what is best for your party, your bank account, or your foreign benefactor. That ends now. You can either put America and American citizens first, or I can make your life utterly wretched.
Have a nice day!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM
Shorter:
Fuck you. War.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (ZANHd)
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Every time I read about DEI, my first thought is that this comes from Chinese money. They're taking over the US without firing a shot.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (WPL6O)
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Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (WPL6O)
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* The "Climate Change" hoax has entered the chat *
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (D9NlX)
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"Jack Black has stuck his foot in it yet again.
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
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90% of them are thinking this. Why would you be happy that LITERALLY HITLER! is safe and ok?
At a concert over the weekend--after the shooting--he shouted out "Don't miss Trump next time."
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90% of them are thinking this. Why would you be happy that LITERALLY HITLER! is safe and ok?
Posted by: Jay in PA at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (i7Q7S)
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Seriously, read Schedule F. it's not a fantasy or some science fiction thing. It was an Executive Order Trump signed late in his term to downsize the the civil service ranks. It is also one of the first things Biden overturned.
You can read the EO here.
https://tinyurl.com/4mhtdcsf
You can read the EO here.
https://tinyurl.com/4mhtdcsf
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (LkLld)
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MadamMayhem, once again proving she should be PDT's press secretary.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (tT6L1)
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>>>and to Ulysses S. Grant in December 2022, when Congress authorized the president to posthumously appoint him to the rank.
But it doesn't appear that Biden ever authorized it.
But it doesn't appear that Biden ever authorized it.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:31 AM (xPl2J)
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189 90% of them are thinking this. Why would you be happy that LITERALLY HITLER! is safe and ok?
Posted by: Jay in PA at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (i7Q7S)
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Because politics is theater and they need to try and make themselves look like they are human beings for votes?
Posted by: Jay in PA at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (i7Q7S)
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Because politics is theater and they need to try and make themselves look like they are human beings for votes?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
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Just saw the now famous raised fist pic with the caption:
Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened secret service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt.
Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened secret service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2024 11:31 AM (u73oe)
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I want the VP to walk into the senate on day one, take Murkowski, Collins and a few other into the cloak room, and give them a Code Red.
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:31 AM (SdP+s)
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Schlicter is one of those people who is hot and cold. I’ve learned you can’t always count on people like that. Maybe it’s the lawyer in him. Maybe not. But either way I feel like there are better choices.
Posted by: Truthbomb
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No offense to lawyers here but few lawyers make for good administrators. Different skill set in winning arguments than administration. Professors make for shitty administrators as well--can be good idea people but that is not what is needed at an agency.
Posted by: Truthbomb
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No offense to lawyers here but few lawyers make for good administrators. Different skill set in winning arguments than administration. Professors make for shitty administrators as well--can be good idea people but that is not what is needed at an agency.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:31 AM (mIs2x)
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>>> 183
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Most of DC needs to be ceded back to Maryland anyway except for the federal buildings centered around the Mall. That would eliminate a lot of problems. In the 1840's, the original portion of DC that was across the Potomac was ceded back to Virginia.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:29 AM (mIs2x)
whig Johnson is right!
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Most of DC needs to be ceded back to Maryland anyway except for the federal buildings centered around the Mall. That would eliminate a lot of problems. In the 1840's, the original portion of DC that was across the Potomac was ceded back to Virginia.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:29 AM (mIs2x)
whig Johnson is right!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (VavZF)
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Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened secret service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2024 11:31 AM (u73oe
Perfection.
Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened secret service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 15, 2024 11:31 AM (u73oe
Perfection.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (7+K68)
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I think the one hurdle Trump needs to clear is to drop the notion that he cant fire a fucking unconstitutional 4th branch of government because MUH CIVIL SERVICE PROTECTION LAWS
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I've long taken the position that the civil service protection acts are unconstitutional.
In that they not only restrict but also attempt to direct how the executive chooses to execute his official duties.
It's just that no one has dared challenge them.
If you notice the biggest theme of this Court is separation of powers.
What do you think this Court will do when Trump says, "one of my official duties is staffing--Congess cannot impose on that and I'm absolutely immune from any inquiry."
Those laws are ripe to be void.
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I've long taken the position that the civil service protection acts are unconstitutional.
In that they not only restrict but also attempt to direct how the executive chooses to execute his official duties.
It's just that no one has dared challenge them.
If you notice the biggest theme of this Court is separation of powers.
What do you think this Court will do when Trump says, "one of my official duties is staffing--Congess cannot impose on that and I'm absolutely immune from any inquiry."
Those laws are ripe to be void.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (oCvig)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (63Dwl)
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195 I want the VP to walk into the senate on day one, take Murkowski, Collins and a few other into the cloak room, and give them a Code Red.
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:31 AM (SdP+s)
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I want a VP who will walk into the Senate before they vote on leader and say, "Anyone who votes for Cornyn, Thune, or Mitch for leader is on my shitlist. Good luck getting re-elected."
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:31 AM (SdP+s)
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I want a VP who will walk into the Senate before they vote on leader and say, "Anyone who votes for Cornyn, Thune, or Mitch for leader is on my shitlist. Good luck getting re-elected."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (GBKbO)
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Seriously, read Schedule F. it's not a fantasy or some science fiction thing. It was an Executive Order Trump signed late in his term to downsize the the civil service ranks. It is also one of the first things Biden overturned. ...
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (LkLld)
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Yes, but there are strong odds that if he does it again (and I agree - he should), the orders will be ignored and nobody gets fired. If that happens, escalation is called for.
"I tried to do it my way, but you refused. Now we're just going to have to fire 25% of you at random and reassess."
Of course, that order could be ignored as well. Time may tell.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (LkLld)
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Yes, but there are strong odds that if he does it again (and I agree - he should), the orders will be ignored and nobody gets fired. If that happens, escalation is called for.
"I tried to do it my way, but you refused. Now we're just going to have to fire 25% of you at random and reassess."
Of course, that order could be ignored as well. Time may tell.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (HnUIn)
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You need good raw material to make into soldiers and America doesn't provide that anymore.
The standards of even 10 years ago are not being met by recruits.
You need good raw material to make into soldiers and America doesn't provide that anymore.
The standards of even 10 years ago are not being met by recruits.
Posted by: Auspex at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (j4U/Z)
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Every time I hear or see Jack Black I think of Bruce Willis taking him apart with the .50 in The Jackal
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (yI5mB)
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There should be no 4 stars. 4 stars should be reserved for wars.
And big city police chiefs.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (63Dwl)
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And big city garbage collector admins.
There should be no 4 stars. 4 stars should be reserved for wars.
And big city police chiefs.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (63Dwl)
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And big city garbage collector admins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (GBKbO)
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Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened secret service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt.
At the convention, Trump should say "I cede testicular pride of place to Corey Comperatore. There's a true man."
At the convention, Trump should say "I cede testicular pride of place to Corey Comperatore. There's a true man."
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)
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174 MSNBC could not put 'Morning Joe' on the air today because they know one of their guests would have blurted out the what the lefties all wished would have happened Saturday evening.
Sad!
Posted by: Jay in PA at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (i7Q7S)
Not sad at all. For those paying attention, it shows really who are the ones spewing vitriol and inciting the masses. "F" Morning Joe. I hope they had to take the day off unpaid.
Sad!
Posted by: Jay in PA at July 15, 2024 11:28 AM (i7Q7S)
Not sad at all. For those paying attention, it shows really who are the ones spewing vitriol and inciting the masses. "F" Morning Joe. I hope they had to take the day off unpaid.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (N39Ws)
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And big city police chiefs.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (63Dwl)
I've seen some 6 stars @ pressers.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (63Dwl)
I've seen some 6 stars @ pressers.
Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (AwYPR)
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>>And there's no guarantee the next Democrat (or uniparty Republican) wouldn't terminate it on their first day. Unless there's a way around that.
Well no shit. That's true with everything. Trump took DEI out of the military, Biden put it back. Trump closed the border, Biden threw it wide open. And on and on.
Elections always matter which is why it's a good thing to win them but when we lose of course the left will try and undo everything one of our side puts in place. Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep doing everything we can to get our way.
Well no shit. That's true with everything. Trump took DEI out of the military, Biden put it back. Trump closed the border, Biden threw it wide open. And on and on.
Elections always matter which is why it's a good thing to win them but when we lose of course the left will try and undo everything one of our side puts in place. Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep doing everything we can to get our way.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (LkLld)
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26 Reagan turned down a VP slit with Ford in ‘76, ...
Reagan was on the verge of selecting Ford as VP in 1980.
Reagan was on the verge of selecting Ford as VP in 1980.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (BzPAR)
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206 Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened secret service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt.
At the convention, Trump should say "I cede testicular pride of place to Corey Comperatore. There's a true man."
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)
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I read a rumor that his family was invited to speak.
At the convention, Trump should say "I cede testicular pride of place to Corey Comperatore. There's a true man."
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)
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I read a rumor that his family was invited to speak.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
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I prefer DC take back the parts of VA it reclaimed.
Posted by: SH
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The locusts will leave NoVa soon because the sweet federal money is going going gone. Same as tech companies leaving Silicon Valley and San Fran area--too much expense and stagnant revenues.
Posted by: SH
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The locusts will leave NoVa soon because the sweet federal money is going going gone. Same as tech companies leaving Silicon Valley and San Fran area--too much expense and stagnant revenues.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (mIs2x)
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"I tried to do it my way, but you refused. Now we're just going to have to fire 25% of you at random and reassess."
Of course, that order could be ignored as well. Time may tell.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (HnUIn)
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If the military continues to refuse lawful orders from their Commander in Chief, we have a big, big problem on our hands. We'll know exactly who's running the country and it ain't POTUS.
Of course, that order could be ignored as well. Time may tell.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (HnUIn)
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If the military continues to refuse lawful orders from their Commander in Chief, we have a big, big problem on our hands. We'll know exactly who's running the country and it ain't POTUS.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (7fElN)
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Every time I hear or see Jack Black I think of Bruce Willis taking him apart with the .50 in The Jackal
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM
That really was his best performance.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM
That really was his best performance.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (ZANHd)
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141 Didn't a bunch of people rage quit when Musk bought Twitter?
Surely there is a precedent there.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:23 AM (7+K6
Yeah and then they went to something called Mastodon which was a total flop and then they went to some meta/FB outgrowth which was a total flop so most of them just quit completely or can crawling back.
141 Didn't a bunch of people rage quit when Musk bought Twitter?
Surely there is a precedent there.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:23 AM (7+K6
Yeah and then they went to something called Mastodon which was a total flop and then they went to some meta/FB outgrowth which was a total flop so most of them just quit completely or can crawling back.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (pgG81)
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>But it doesn't appear that Biden ever authorized it.
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The Handlers© probably never told him about it- just shoved it in a desk drawer somewhere
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The Handlers© probably never told him about it- just shoved it in a desk drawer somewhere
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (/7KEl)
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90% of them are thinking this. Why would you be happy that LITERALLY HITLER! is safe and ok?
Posted by: Jay in PA at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (i7Q7S)
Something something, stop violet rhetoric, something something lower the temperature.
Posted by: Jay in PA at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (i7Q7S)
Something something, stop violet rhetoric, something something lower the temperature.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (EXuhY)
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I want the VP to walk into the Senate on day one and step up to a microphone and say...
Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate
I despise each and every one of you. My job, my mission, is to make all of you to do what is best for our country and our citizens. Many of you prefer to do what is best for your party, your bank account, or your foreign benefactor. That ends now. You can either put America and American citizens first, or I can make your life utterly wretched.
Have a nice day!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM
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* And in best Al Pacino mobster accent: *
"Now say hello to my little friend!"
Ladies and gentlemen of the Senate
I despise each and every one of you. My job, my mission, is to make all of you to do what is best for our country and our citizens. Many of you prefer to do what is best for your party, your bank account, or your foreign benefactor. That ends now. You can either put America and American citizens first, or I can make your life utterly wretched.
Have a nice day!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 15, 2024 11:27 AM
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* And in best Al Pacino mobster accent: *
"Now say hello to my little friend!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (D9NlX)
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176 Jack Black has stuck his foot in it yet again.
That fat fuck can’t even see his foot. Insufferable douchebag.
That fat fuck can’t even see his foot. Insufferable douchebag.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (Aoykm)
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Judge Cannon just did the DOJ a solid...
There was a strong case being built by the Trump team and encourages, frankly, by Cannon of serious prosecutorial misconduct involving staging, altering and obfuscating evidence in this case - such a decision on misconduct could have put into doubt other cases and invited state level prosecution of such misconduct.
That's off the table now - and if I were Garland, I'd just forget about appeal...
There was a strong case being built by the Trump team and encourages, frankly, by Cannon of serious prosecutorial misconduct involving staging, altering and obfuscating evidence in this case - such a decision on misconduct could have put into doubt other cases and invited state level prosecution of such misconduct.
That's off the table now - and if I were Garland, I'd just forget about appeal...
Posted by: Boswell at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (K+UlC)
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215 Yeah and then they went to something called Mastodon which was a total flop and then they went to some meta/FB outgrowth which was a total flop so most of them just quit completely or can crawling back.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (pgG81)
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I kept seeing pics of Popehat commenting at a place called BlueSky, I think.
Popehat be crazy.
Also, I was addicted to Twitter all weekend. It's awful. I hate it. This place is much more better.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (pgG81)
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I kept seeing pics of Popehat commenting at a place called BlueSky, I think.
Popehat be crazy.
Also, I was addicted to Twitter all weekend. It's awful. I hate it. This place is much more better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: I think Lenin may have said it at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (SvpLe)
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The trannies in the military have to go. Either you gender identify as the sex you were born or you are discharged. No exceptions.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (GUOwU)
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My wife and I just finished reading "River of Doubt" about Theo. Roosevelt's descent of an unchartered river in Brazil. We were both struck by the similarities between Roosevelt and Trump: Both were second born sons, both had older brothers who were the heir apparent to their families fortune's, and both died (young) of alcoholism.
Now we can add both survived penetrative gsw at a live rally.
Now we can add both survived penetrative gsw at a live rally.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (lPeS+)
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Every time I hear or see Jack Black I think of Bruce Willis taking him apart with the .50 in The Jackal
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (yI5mB)
I think of him offering to suck cock for dope in Tropic Thunder.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (yI5mB)
I think of him offering to suck cock for dope in Tropic Thunder.
Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (AwYPR)
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206 Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened secret service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt.
At the convention, Trump should say "I cede testicular pride of place to Corey Comperatore. There's a true man."
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)
Such a sad and tragic loss. But he died protecting his wife and daughter. No greater love than this. As you said - a true man. He should be honored, his name held high.
At the convention, Trump should say "I cede testicular pride of place to Corey Comperatore. There's a true man."
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)
Such a sad and tragic loss. But he died protecting his wife and daughter. No greater love than this. As you said - a true man. He should be honored, his name held high.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (N39Ws)
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When is NeoTrump making his VP pick?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (7+K68)
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And big city police chiefs.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (63Dwl)
I believe that they're moving to ducal coronets with either a P or V device depending on their sexual plumbing.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2024 11:32 AM (63Dwl)
I believe that they're moving to ducal coronets with either a P or V device depending on their sexual plumbing.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2024 11:36 AM (U7wke)
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If the military continues to refuse lawful orders from their Commander in Chief, we have a big, big problem on our hands. We'll know exactly who's running the country and it ain't POTUS.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (7fElN)
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That already happened, in a huge way, with the Afghanistan withdrawal. That wasn't mere incompetence, it was disobedience under the expectation that Biden would cancel the order.
The question is whether it happens again. There is no reason to expect it won't. The Party runs the show, not the President.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 15, 2024 11:34 AM (7fElN)
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That already happened, in a huge way, with the Afghanistan withdrawal. That wasn't mere incompetence, it was disobedience under the expectation that Biden would cancel the order.
The question is whether it happens again. There is no reason to expect it won't. The Party runs the show, not the President.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:37 AM (HnUIn)
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Popehat be crazy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
Of all the people whose brain was broken by Trump, Popehat’s brain might be the most broken.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
Of all the people whose brain was broken by Trump, Popehat’s brain might be the most broken.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2024 11:37 AM (EXuhY)
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When is NeoTrump making his VP pick?
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If today, we should get the leaked name by around 3:00 I would think.
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If today, we should get the leaked name by around 3:00 I would think.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:37 AM (sX1BW)
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And those very factors that make him so appalling also make him America’s only hope.”
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (SdP+s)
Lots of people have changed their opinion of him since then.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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He did end with he's our only hope...
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
Posted by: Truthbomb at July 15, 2024 11:19 AM (SdP+s)
Lots of people have changed their opinion of him since then.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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He did end with he's our only hope...
Posted by: lin-duh at July 15, 2024 11:37 AM (oQJip)
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223 The trannies in the military have to go. Either you gender identify as the sex you were born or you are discharged. No exceptions.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (GUOwU)
The world still needs cannon fodder.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (GUOwU)
The world still needs cannon fodder.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:37 AM (N39Ws)
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"I read a rumor that his family was invited to speak."
I think that would be an incredibly hard to thing to do at this point.
I did read that President Trump had organized a "Go Fund Me" for that man's family as well as the others who had been shot and it had already raised millions of dollars. Good for President Trump.
I think that would be an incredibly hard to thing to do at this point.
I did read that President Trump had organized a "Go Fund Me" for that man's family as well as the others who had been shot and it had already raised millions of dollars. Good for President Trump.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2024 11:38 AM (Zy6LG)
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Donald Trump encourages and protects frightened secret service members who cling to his massive balls as he leads them to safety after failed assassination attempt.
At the convention, Trump should say "I cede testicular pride of place to Corey Comperatore. There's a true man."
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)
Such a sad and tragic loss. But he died protecting his wife and daughter. No greater love than this. As you said - a true man. He should be honored, his name held high.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (N39Ws)
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Sadly, they are more likely to give the comically incompetent SS a bunch of awards than they are to honor this poor guy.
At the convention, Trump should say "I cede testicular pride of place to Corey Comperatore. There's a true man."
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)
Such a sad and tragic loss. But he died protecting his wife and daughter. No greater love than this. As you said - a true man. He should be honored, his name held high.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (N39Ws)
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Sadly, they are more likely to give the comically incompetent SS a bunch of awards than they are to honor this poor guy.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 15, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
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209 >>And there's no guarantee the next Democrat (or uniparty Republican) wouldn't terminate it on their first day. Unless there's a way around that.
Well no shit. That's true with everything. Trump took DEI out of the military, Biden put it back. Trump closed the border, Biden threw it wide open. And on and on.
Elections always matter which is why it's a good thing to win them but when we lose of course the left will try and undo everything one of our side puts in place. Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep doing everything we can to get our way.
Posted by: JackStraw
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FedGov, regardless of who is president is about to hit a fiscal iceberg and austerity will become the new norm. The usual sour economy lasts about a decade from severe fiscal crises and it will be a rough decade if we are lucky. Worst outcomes include something like Yugoslavian implosion after being cut off from foreign loans after the Cold War ended.
Well no shit. That's true with everything. Trump took DEI out of the military, Biden put it back. Trump closed the border, Biden threw it wide open. And on and on.
Elections always matter which is why it's a good thing to win them but when we lose of course the left will try and undo everything one of our side puts in place. Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep doing everything we can to get our way.
Posted by: JackStraw
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FedGov, regardless of who is president is about to hit a fiscal iceberg and austerity will become the new norm. The usual sour economy lasts about a decade from severe fiscal crises and it will be a rough decade if we are lucky. Worst outcomes include something like Yugoslavian implosion after being cut off from foreign loans after the Cold War ended.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:38 AM (mIs2x)
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Of all the people whose brain was broken by Trump, Popehat’s brain might be the most broken.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2024 11:37 AM (EXuhY)
Patterico too.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2024 11:37 AM (EXuhY)
Patterico too.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 15, 2024 11:38 AM (xPl2J)
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I would love to be the next Sec Def!
Posted by: Ken at July 15, 2024 11:38 AM (grzy1)
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138 “ Donald Trump is a vulgar clown posing as a conservative, unmoored to any coherent ideology. He has generated unprecedented opposition and the contempt of people across the political spectrum. He is unbound to any principle other than his own appetite for adulation. And those very factors that make him so appalling also make him America’s only hope.”
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
There were a lot of us in 2015 and 2016 who thought that. We were wrong.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C)
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Well a few things are on the mark:
Trump is not an idealogue, therefore Trump isn't a conservative
People across the political spectrum hate him
Trump is indeed vulgar (but he isn't profane)
Trump can be clownish (gold Trump sneakers, etc)
Trump loves adulation
But certainly he is the greatest American of the 21st century.
Kurt Schlicter September 2016
There were a lot of us in 2015 and 2016 who thought that. We were wrong.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C)
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Well a few things are on the mark:
Trump is not an idealogue, therefore Trump isn't a conservative
People across the political spectrum hate him
Trump is indeed vulgar (but he isn't profane)
Trump can be clownish (gold Trump sneakers, etc)
Trump loves adulation
But certainly he is the greatest American of the 21st century.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 11:38 AM (2fIO4)
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I kept seeing pics of Popehat commenting at a place called BlueSky, I think.
BlueSky is an invitation-only social media platform.
As a result, it is a Leftist echo chamber, and almost nobody uses it.
BlueSky is an invitation-only social media platform.
As a result, it is a Leftist echo chamber, and almost nobody uses it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 15, 2024 11:38 AM (uxCna)
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I was suddenly reminded of "Codes Of Conduct" that were pushed into various Open Source projects in the software development world.
You would basically have some parasite that would join in a project, and the only thing they would produce would be THE CODE OF CONDUCT (R).
Said code was proto-DIE babble - Inclusivity except for excluding various words that were ickydoubleplusungood. And ejection of people that were the main drivers of the project itself, producing actual real software rather than above babble.
I seem to recall Eric S. Raymond, an Open Source evangelist, describing it and coming out against the implementation of COCs, simply because the folks pushing said COCs were, like the DIEs, getting rid of competent people and pushing in incompetent people simply because of who their sperm and egg donors were, or what values they decided to put into the $ME.Gender property in the past 30 seconds.
A lot of places are FUBARed, and will be FUBARed for some time because of the lasting damage these people have done. Both in incompetence above, and pushing out of the supporting foundation of actual competence below.
You would basically have some parasite that would join in a project, and the only thing they would produce would be THE CODE OF CONDUCT (R).
Said code was proto-DIE babble - Inclusivity except for excluding various words that were ickydoubleplusungood. And ejection of people that were the main drivers of the project itself, producing actual real software rather than above babble.
I seem to recall Eric S. Raymond, an Open Source evangelist, describing it and coming out against the implementation of COCs, simply because the folks pushing said COCs were, like the DIEs, getting rid of competent people and pushing in incompetent people simply because of who their sperm and egg donors were, or what values they decided to put into the $ME.Gender property in the past 30 seconds.
A lot of places are FUBARed, and will be FUBARed for some time because of the lasting damage these people have done. Both in incompetence above, and pushing out of the supporting foundation of actual competence below.
Posted by: Another Anon at July 15, 2024 11:39 AM (QNMaY)
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Well Minka, it appears we have the whole day to ourselves. Now where's your strap-on?
Posted by: Joe Scarborough at July 15, 2024 11:39 AM (woPEM)
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For those who asked: https://tinyurl.com/2xuvbhhq
HA! Got nothin' better to do as the nation is not interested in a cat right now...
HA! Got nothin' better to do as the nation is not interested in a cat right now...
Posted by: catman at July 15, 2024 11:39 AM (4HMlb)
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Judge Cannon just did the DOJ a solid...
There was a strong case being built by the Trump team and encourages, frankly, by Cannon of serious prosecutorial misconduct involving staging, altering and obfuscating evidence in this case - such a decision on misconduct could have put into doubt other cases and invited state level prosecution of such misconduct.
That's off the table now - and if I were Garland, I'd just forget about appeal...
Posted by: Boswell at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM
This was was never going to go to trial and would be dismissed one way or another and jack smith knew that when got biden to approve the raid on mar a largo.
This was all a blatant attempt to intimidate Trump and force him to spend money on defending himself with the extra benefit of taking him away from the campaign trail.
There was a strong case being built by the Trump team and encourages, frankly, by Cannon of serious prosecutorial misconduct involving staging, altering and obfuscating evidence in this case - such a decision on misconduct could have put into doubt other cases and invited state level prosecution of such misconduct.
That's off the table now - and if I were Garland, I'd just forget about appeal...
Posted by: Boswell at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM
This was was never going to go to trial and would be dismissed one way or another and jack smith knew that when got biden to approve the raid on mar a largo.
This was all a blatant attempt to intimidate Trump and force him to spend money on defending himself with the extra benefit of taking him away from the campaign trail.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (QNSds)
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FedGov, regardless of who is president is about to hit a fiscal iceberg and austerity will become the new norm. The usual sour economy lasts about a decade from severe fiscal crises and it will be a rough decade if we are lucky. Worst outcomes include something like Yugoslavian implosion after being cut off from foreign loans after the Cold War ended.
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I'm not sure I share your optimism or timeline, but we will see.
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I'm not sure I share your optimism or timeline, but we will see.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (sX1BW)
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Trump has better advisors. He hasn't been vulgar in some time.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (7+K68)
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223 The trannies in the military have to go. Either you gender identify as the sex you were born or you are discharged. No exceptions.
Posted by: Ripley
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Easy enough there--you have to meet deployment health standards which means diabetics, trannies, AIDS patients, etc or are separated because they cannot deploy due to requiring active medical treatment that cannot be guaranteed on deployment.
Used to be a thing.
Posted by: Ripley
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Easy enough there--you have to meet deployment health standards which means diabetics, trannies, AIDS patients, etc or are separated because they cannot deploy due to requiring active medical treatment that cannot be guaranteed on deployment.
Used to be a thing.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (mIs2x)
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If today, we should get the leaked name by around 3:00 I would think.
It needs to be a name even less acceptable to the Deep State than Trump is.
Otherwise, the Deep State will never stop trying to kill Trump.
It needs to be a name even less acceptable to the Deep State than Trump is.
Otherwise, the Deep State will never stop trying to kill Trump.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (uxCna)
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190 Seriously, read Schedule F. it's not a fantasy or some science fiction thing. It was an Executive Order Trump signed late in his term to downsize the the civil service ranks. It is also one of the first things Biden overturned.
You can read the EO here.
https://tinyurl.com/4mhtdcsf
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (LkLld)
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I'm certain that the schedule F EO was the reason why the Deep State went balls to the wall cheating.
You can read the EO here.
https://tinyurl.com/4mhtdcsf
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2024 11:30 AM (LkLld)
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I'm certain that the schedule F EO was the reason why the Deep State went balls to the wall cheating.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (2fIO4)
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First thing I'd do is find that officer who took a picture of himself in uniform, wearing a dog mask and a collar, and court-martial him. Conduct unbecoming. Disgracing the uniform. 5 seconds later, I'm cashiering anyone who had anything to with drag story hours for children on our military installations.
Posted by: Tim at July 15, 2024 11:41 AM (wRC2j)
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248 If today, we should get the leaked name by around 3:00 I would think.
It needs to be a name even less acceptable to the Deep State than Trump is.
Otherwise, the Deep State will never stop trying to kill Trump.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (uxCna)
That is surely not a very long list.
It needs to be a name even less acceptable to the Deep State than Trump is.
Otherwise, the Deep State will never stop trying to kill Trump.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (uxCna)
That is surely not a very long list.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2024 11:41 AM (EXuhY)
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Such a sad and tragic loss. But he died protecting his wife and daughter. No greater love than this. As you said - a true man. He should be honored, his name held high.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (N39Ws)
To append my thoughts.....
Our culture, especially boys, needs role models and heroes like this. I'm sure he isn't perfect - nobody is. Call it chauvinistic if you want, but I was raised with the notion that men must take care and protect the women. He did that at the expense of his life.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (N39Ws)
To append my thoughts.....
Our culture, especially boys, needs role models and heroes like this. I'm sure he isn't perfect - nobody is. Call it chauvinistic if you want, but I was raised with the notion that men must take care and protect the women. He did that at the expense of his life.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:41 AM (N39Ws)
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223 The trannies in the military have to go. Either you gender identify as the sex you were born or you are discharged. No exceptions.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (GUOwU)
Discharged?
No. Court-Martialed and sentenced to Death.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2024 11:35 AM (GUOwU)
Discharged?
No. Court-Martialed and sentenced to Death.
Posted by: XTC at July 15, 2024 11:41 AM (UnA8+)
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39 I read somewhere, don't know how true it is but the claim is there were four (4) star generals in WWII, and a 5 star, Ike. This was with 15 million men in uniform.
Today there are something like 45 four star generals
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (0YMin)
Not true. Ike, MacArthur and Arnold (in charge of the Army Air Gorce before it split off to become its own branch) were all promoted in Dec. 1944, along with then chief of staff and still considered their superior officer, Marshall.
https://tinyurl.com/3sb7dmw6
Today there are something like 45 four star generals
Posted by: Common Tater at July 15, 2024 11:09 AM (0YMin)
Not true. Ike, MacArthur and Arnold (in charge of the Army Air Gorce before it split off to become its own branch) were all promoted in Dec. 1944, along with then chief of staff and still considered their superior officer, Marshall.
https://tinyurl.com/3sb7dmw6
Posted by: tankdemon at July 15, 2024 11:42 AM (BzPAR)
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Popehat and Patterico - two guys who both had a serious online presence. Now they have the readership of an average 14 year old girls Facebook page.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 11:42 AM (pgG81)
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Damn, looks like my previous post was already thoroughly covered.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 15, 2024 11:43 AM (BzPAR)
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Trump has better advisors. He hasn't been vulgar in some time.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (7+K6
Melania started with the ear flicks.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (7+K6
Melania started with the ear flicks.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2024 11:43 AM (U7wke)
Posted by: Robert at July 15, 2024 11:43 AM (EfnB/)
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246 Trump has better advisors. He hasn't been vulgar in some time.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (7+K6
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I use vulgar in the original sense, i.e. common man
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:40 AM (7+K6
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I use vulgar in the original sense, i.e. common man
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 11:43 AM (2fIO4)
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FedGov, regardless of who is president is about to hit a fiscal iceberg and austerity will become the new norm. The usual sour economy lasts about a decade from severe fiscal crises and it will be a rough decade if we are lucky. Worst outcomes include something like Yugoslavian implosion after being cut off from foreign loans after the Cold War ended.
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I agree with your assessment of the impending fiscal calamity.
However, consider the crushing weight of just the last 20 years of new regulation that could be removed and see also Argentina
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I agree with your assessment of the impending fiscal calamity.
However, consider the crushing weight of just the last 20 years of new regulation that could be removed and see also Argentina
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (oCvig)
261
Jack Black calling for the assassination of President Trump.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (Ectld)
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260 I agree with your assessment of the impending fiscal calamity.
However, consider the crushing weight of just the last 20 years of new regulation that could be removed and see also Argentina
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (oCvig)
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Trump got strong, sustained economic growth through no more than pre-Loper deregulation.
However, consider the crushing weight of just the last 20 years of new regulation that could be removed and see also Argentina
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (oCvig)
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Trump got strong, sustained economic growth through no more than pre-Loper deregulation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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260 FedGov, regardless of who is president is about to hit a fiscal iceberg and austerity will become the new norm. The usual sour economy lasts about a decade from severe fiscal crises and it will be a rough decade if we are lucky. Worst outcomes include something like Yugoslavian implosion after being cut off from foreign loans after the Cold War ended.
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I agree with your assessment of the impending fiscal calamity.
However, consider the crushing weight of just the last 20 years of new regulation that could be removed and see also Argentina
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (oCvig)
Nah, we’ll just borrow more money to pay for the interest on the money we’ve already borrowed. There’s no WAY this will EVER lead to ANY problems. Only haters say differently.
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I agree with your assessment of the impending fiscal calamity.
However, consider the crushing weight of just the last 20 years of new regulation that could be removed and see also Argentina
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (oCvig)
Nah, we’ll just borrow more money to pay for the interest on the money we’ve already borrowed. There’s no WAY this will EVER lead to ANY problems. Only haters say differently.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (EXuhY)
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Today there are something like 45 four star generals
We used to have a system where officers were temporarily promoted to a higher rank if there was a major war on, and were allowed to retire at that higher rank after the war if they did well.
Now, it's "well, we might need to fight a major war, so we need all the 4-stars we need to fight that war.
We used to have a system where officers were temporarily promoted to a higher rank if there was a major war on, and were allowed to retire at that higher rank after the war if they did well.
Now, it's "well, we might need to fight a major war, so we need all the 4-stars we need to fight that war.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (uxCna)
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For those paying attention, Clarence Thomas gave a great big shout out about the appointments clause in a recent opinion, and Judge Cannon noticed, picked up the ball, and ran with it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (pgG81)
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I agree with your assessment of the impending fiscal calamity.
However, consider the crushing weight of just the last 20 years of new regulation that could be removed and see also Argentina
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (oCvig)
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Power of and.
But fix the *entire* rest of the government without touching CMS, and the ship sinks.
However, consider the crushing weight of just the last 20 years of new regulation that could be removed and see also Argentina
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (oCvig)
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Power of and.
But fix the *entire* rest of the government without touching CMS, and the ship sinks.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (HnUIn)
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I'm not sure I share your optimism or timeline, but we will see.
Posted by: SH
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Average time for a fiat currency in history to wind up is about 70-80 years or so. Every time it is because the government overspends itself to buy popularity and to engage in wars for fun and profit.
Same thing with debt levels over 100 pct GDP.
I would suggest reading Carmines and Rogoff's 'This Time it is Different' to know what is coming. They include roughly 1000 years or so of fiscal mishaps involving countries across the globe and tracking the effects. We are no so special that the same thing that happened to those countries cannot happen to us.
Essentially, interest on the debt eventually is repudiated one way or another (inflating it away or formal repudiation) and that includes potential liabilities like entitlements.
Scotus has already ruled consistently that getting govt. goodies is NOT considered a property interest and thus is subject to future laws changing them by a Prezzie and Congress.
Posted by: SH
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Average time for a fiat currency in history to wind up is about 70-80 years or so. Every time it is because the government overspends itself to buy popularity and to engage in wars for fun and profit.
Same thing with debt levels over 100 pct GDP.
I would suggest reading Carmines and Rogoff's 'This Time it is Different' to know what is coming. They include roughly 1000 years or so of fiscal mishaps involving countries across the globe and tracking the effects. We are no so special that the same thing that happened to those countries cannot happen to us.
Essentially, interest on the debt eventually is repudiated one way or another (inflating it away or formal repudiation) and that includes potential liabilities like entitlements.
Scotus has already ruled consistently that getting govt. goodies is NOT considered a property interest and thus is subject to future laws changing them by a Prezzie and Congress.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (mIs2x)
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Jack Black calling for the assassination of President Trump.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (Ectld)
Maybe Black will step in front of high speed projectile and understand the errors of calling for violence like that.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (Ectld)
Maybe Black will step in front of high speed projectile and understand the errors of calling for violence like that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)
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261 Jack Black calling for the assassination of President Trump.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (Ectld)
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Looks like it was actually Kyle Gass. But no one knows who Kyle Gass is.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (Ectld)
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Looks like it was actually Kyle Gass. But no one knows who Kyle Gass is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:46 AM (GBKbO)
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Popehat and Patterico - two guys who both had a serious online presence. Now they have the readership of an average 14 year old girls Facebook page.
Don't forget me!
Don't forget me!
Posted by: Allahpundit! at July 15, 2024 11:46 AM (uxCna)
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234 "I read a rumor that his family was invited to speak."
I think that would be an incredibly hard to thing to do at this point.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2024 11:38 AM
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I'd never ask them to speak, but if the request came from them, unsolicited? Absolutely.
I think that would be an incredibly hard to thing to do at this point.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2024 11:38 AM
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I'd never ask them to speak, but if the request came from them, unsolicited? Absolutely.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (wzAuc)
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Speaking of shootings, anyone know how the Baldwin trial is going?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
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smart mil blog
Posted by: yoeman at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (j1QfB)
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Speaking of shootings, anyone know how the Baldwin trial is going?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
are you being serious right now?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
are you being serious right now?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)
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272 Speaking of shootings, anyone know how the Baldwin trial is going?
it's over it was tossed out? he's free
it's over it was tossed out? he's free
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (s3qiR)
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272 Speaking of shootings, anyone know how the Baldwin trial is going?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
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Prosecutors hid evidence from defense in a clear Brady violation (I studied at Twitter Law).
I mean...Baldwin's a shithead and probably should be in jail, but our bigger problem as a nation is that prosecutors feel safe enough to break ironclad rules in even high profile cases.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
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Prosecutors hid evidence from defense in a clear Brady violation (I studied at Twitter Law).
I mean...Baldwin's a shithead and probably should be in jail, but our bigger problem as a nation is that prosecutors feel safe enough to break ironclad rules in even high profile cases.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (v6JzV)
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272 Speaking of shootings, anyone know how the Baldwin trial is going?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
Judge declared a mistrial with prejudice. Prosecution found to have withheld evidence.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
Judge declared a mistrial with prejudice. Prosecution found to have withheld evidence.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (N39Ws)
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Average time for a fiat currency in history to wind up is about 70-80 years or so. Every time it is because the government overspends itself to buy popularity and to engage in wars for fun and profit.
Same thing with debt levels over 100 pct GDP.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (mIs2x)
Independent of that, the dramatic change in the ratio of those working to those not will put a serious damper on productivity.
Same thing with debt levels over 100 pct GDP.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (mIs2x)
Independent of that, the dramatic change in the ratio of those working to those not will put a serious damper on productivity.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (eYoxG)
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We are no so special that the same thing that happened to those countries cannot happen to us.
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I agree we are not so different. History doesn't stop just because we think this time its different. I'm just not as certain on your timeline. I think we still have a lot of runway left on our decline. I would say nothing really changes until the Boomers die off.
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I agree we are not so different. History doesn't stop just because we think this time its different. I'm just not as certain on your timeline. I think we still have a lot of runway left on our decline. I would say nothing really changes until the Boomers die off.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (sX1BW)
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Jack Black calling for the assassination of President Trump.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (Ectld)
No, just one of his idiot band mates in Tenacious D.
https://tinyurl.com/mpv4cw7u
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 11:44 AM (Ectld)
No, just one of his idiot band mates in Tenacious D.
https://tinyurl.com/mpv4cw7u
Posted by: Robert at July 15, 2024 11:49 AM (z9GtU)
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Jack Black is just saying 'the right words' to keep himself in good standing within the Entertainment/Media Complex
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 11:49 AM (/7KEl)
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Judge declared a mistrial with prejudice. Prosecution found to have withheld evidence.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Aw crap.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Aw crap.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:49 AM (v6JzV)
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How about we enforce fitness tests and marksmanship tests for senior officers? Anyone who is a fat f*ck or who can't demonstrate the manual of arms for his service weapon gets retired immediately.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2024 11:49 AM (A3700)
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Clarence Thomas still goes on my modern Rushmore.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (7WnGI)
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Judge declared a mistrial with prejudice. Prosecution found to have withheld evidence.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (N39Ws)
A box of ammo...what box of ammo? I've never heard the relevance.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (N39Ws)
A box of ammo...what box of ammo? I've never heard the relevance.
Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (AwYPR)
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Speaking of shootings, anyone know how the Baldwin trial is going?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
Dismissed with prejudice because the prosecutor decided to act like a giant faggot.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
Dismissed with prejudice because the prosecutor decided to act like a giant faggot.
Posted by: Robert at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (z9GtU)
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Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (wzAuc)
I can't imagine asking to speak at this level of raw loss/ Maybe, but people even-understandably-have difficulty speaking about their beloved family members at a funeral where death may have been expected, but in this case-gosh. I don't think they've even had this brave man's funeral yet.
I can't imagine asking to speak at this level of raw loss/ Maybe, but people even-understandably-have difficulty speaking about their beloved family members at a funeral where death may have been expected, but in this case-gosh. I don't think they've even had this brave man's funeral yet.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (Zy6LG)
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I agree with your assessment of the impending fiscal calamity.
However, consider the crushing weight of just the last 20 years of new regulation that could be removed and see also Argentina
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Argentina has been subject to multiple formal repudiations of government debt which we have avoided so far. Millei was elected, in part, because Argentina due to leftist kleptocrats was heading down the same road to another repudiation (last one was around 2000 or so from memory) which led to a very sour economy for twenty years or so.
But, Argentina is largely a cohesive society as far as ethnic and racial divisions where we are more like Yugoslavia.
There is one other possibility and that is to adopt the German economic miracle by waiving almost all government regulations that was used in the Adenauer administration. Led to a massive recovery in a very short time.
Other nations have done something similar but it requires massive cutbacks on regulation and government spending to carry it off.
However, consider the crushing weight of just the last 20 years of new regulation that could be removed and see also Argentina
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Argentina has been subject to multiple formal repudiations of government debt which we have avoided so far. Millei was elected, in part, because Argentina due to leftist kleptocrats was heading down the same road to another repudiation (last one was around 2000 or so from memory) which led to a very sour economy for twenty years or so.
But, Argentina is largely a cohesive society as far as ethnic and racial divisions where we are more like Yugoslavia.
There is one other possibility and that is to adopt the German economic miracle by waiving almost all government regulations that was used in the Adenauer administration. Led to a massive recovery in a very short time.
Other nations have done something similar but it requires massive cutbacks on regulation and government spending to carry it off.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (mIs2x)
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Heh. From the Wiki article:
As the logistics and military leadership requirements of World War II escalated after the June 1944 Normandy landings, the United States government created a new version of General of the Army. The government had considered creating a rank of field marshal, however George C. Marshall, the first officer to be nominated for the rank, objected to the proposed title as he did not want to be known as "Marshal Marshall"
As the logistics and military leadership requirements of World War II escalated after the June 1944 Normandy landings, the United States government created a new version of General of the Army. The government had considered creating a rank of field marshal, however George C. Marshall, the first officer to be nominated for the rank, objected to the proposed title as he did not want to be known as "Marshal Marshall"
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (xCA6C)
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I felt that the cop climbing the ladder and retreating story was not accurate. Now the current official story as reported on the Fox News site is the cop was trying to find a way to the roof ( there was no ladder ) and subsequently got onto the shoulders of another cop and looked over and saw the guy pointing the gun at him and he ducked and fell back off the other cop's shoulder.
I'll wait another 24 hours to see if this story is accurate.
I'll wait another 24 hours to see if this story is accurate.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (B1dzx)
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287 Speaking of shootings, anyone know how the Baldwin trial is going?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
Dismissed with prejudice because the prosecutor decided to act like a giant faggot.
Posted by: Robert at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (z9GtU)
He hid the evidence in his #2 hole?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
Dismissed with prejudice because the prosecutor decided to act like a giant faggot.
Posted by: Robert at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (z9GtU)
He hid the evidence in his #2 hole?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (EXuhY)
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45 You know how Doom is like air around here?
Part of why the left wins so much is the massive psy-ops they run to convince they are powerful and invincible.
"Can't fire civil servants!"
Why? No one has tried yet.
And on and on. So many "can'ts" are ingrained in the right simply because it's never tried.
Look at Argentina now and tell me a Trump team couldn't replicate that here.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig)
T.H.I.S.
Which is why my heart says that Trump should pick Vivek as his VP. Last year, Vivek was on the All In podcast telling the Besties that Dept. of Ed needs to be eliminated, and that he knew how it could be done. Last month on All In, Trump said that he'd eliminate the DoE, among other agencies. It makes sense fiscally, as our gov't is too bloated to continue to finance with debt, much less operate properly.
The only way to eliminate the Deep State is to privatize it and/or conduct wholesale firings. We're at the point where our financial solvency now depends upon it.
Part of why the left wins so much is the massive psy-ops they run to convince they are powerful and invincible.
"Can't fire civil servants!"
Why? No one has tried yet.
And on and on. So many "can'ts" are ingrained in the right simply because it's never tried.
Look at Argentina now and tell me a Trump team couldn't replicate that here.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2024 11:10 AM (oCvig)
T.H.I.S.
Which is why my heart says that Trump should pick Vivek as his VP. Last year, Vivek was on the All In podcast telling the Besties that Dept. of Ed needs to be eliminated, and that he knew how it could be done. Last month on All In, Trump said that he'd eliminate the DoE, among other agencies. It makes sense fiscally, as our gov't is too bloated to continue to finance with debt, much less operate properly.
The only way to eliminate the Deep State is to privatize it and/or conduct wholesale firings. We're at the point where our financial solvency now depends upon it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (QDSRR)
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Judge declared a mistrial with prejudice. Prosecution found to have withheld evidence.
You can't buy a better defense team than saboteurs on the prosecution!
You can't buy a better defense team than saboteurs on the prosecution!
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (hKf3k)
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283 Judge declared a mistrial with prejudice. Prosecution found to have withheld evidence.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Aw crap.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:49 AM (v6JzV)
The evidence allegedly withheld was when someone showed up at the local sheriffs office with a box of bullets stating it may be of interest to the Rust shooting. Same caliber, but debatable if the rounds were similar to what was found on set.
So the Rust armorer who is serving 18 mos. in prison has a good chance to get her case appealed/dismissed also.
Everybody walks.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Aw crap.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:49 AM (v6JzV)
The evidence allegedly withheld was when someone showed up at the local sheriffs office with a box of bullets stating it may be of interest to the Rust shooting. Same caliber, but debatable if the rounds were similar to what was found on set.
So the Rust armorer who is serving 18 mos. in prison has a good chance to get her case appealed/dismissed also.
Everybody walks.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (N39Ws)
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Judge declared a mistrial with prejudice. Prosecution found to have withheld evidence.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (N39Ws)
A box of ammo...what box of ammo? I've never heard the relevance.
Posted by: BignJames
A box of ammo in Arizona that never left Arizona, while the picture was being filmed in New Mexico.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (N39Ws)
A box of ammo...what box of ammo? I've never heard the relevance.
Posted by: BignJames
A box of ammo in Arizona that never left Arizona, while the picture was being filmed in New Mexico.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (NzK/m)
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284 How about we enforce fitness tests and marksmanship tests for senior officers? Anyone who is a fat f*ck or who can't demonstrate the manual of arms for his service weapon gets retired immediately.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2024 11:49 AM (A3700)
That targets our DEI candidates, unfortunately. No targeting.
We must protect our DEI hires. Especially the round ones who dress as furries.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2024 11:49 AM (A3700)
That targets our DEI candidates, unfortunately. No targeting.
We must protect our DEI hires. Especially the round ones who dress as furries.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2024 11:52 AM (7+K68)
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279 Average time for a fiat currency in history to wind up is about 70-80 years or so. Every time it is because the government overspends itself to buy popularity and to engage in wars for fun and profit.
Same thing with debt levels over 100 pct GDP.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (mIs2x)
Independent of that, the dramatic change in the ratio of those working to those not will put a serious damper on productivity.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (eYoxG)
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All just in time for my retirement. Yay.
Same thing with debt levels over 100 pct GDP.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (mIs2x)
Independent of that, the dramatic change in the ratio of those working to those not will put a serious damper on productivity.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (eYoxG)
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All just in time for my retirement. Yay.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 11:52 AM (2fIO4)
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however George C. Marshall, the first officer to be nominated for the rank, objected to the proposed title as he did not want to be known as "Marshal Marshall"
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (xCA6C)
Roger roger.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (xCA6C)
Roger roger.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2024 11:52 AM (EXuhY)
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With full respect to the dead and injured, it is a long time since "we" had a month this good.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2024 11:52 AM (7WnGI)
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Buck, I've thought for a long time that if Trump gets back in - and it certainly looks as though he will- that Col. Schlicter would make an excellent SecDef. In addition, his experience as partner in his law firm would allow him to make recommendations for Atty Gen so we don't have another Jeff Sessions/ Bill Barr situation to deal with. As a former Air Force flyboy, I can attest that what the good Colonel said about leadership is absolutely true, and something sorely lacking in the Swamp.
Posted by: Agamemnon at July 15, 2024 11:52 AM (Gk9Cz)
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290 Heh. From the Wiki article:
As the logistics and military leadership requirements of World War II escalated after the June 1944 Normandy landings, the United States government created a new version of General of the Army. The government had considered creating a rank of field marshal, however George C. Marshall, the first officer to be nominated for the rank, objected to the proposed title as he did not want to be known as "Marshal Marshall"
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (xCA6C)
Marshal Marshall Marshall
- Jan Brady
As the logistics and military leadership requirements of World War II escalated after the June 1944 Normandy landings, the United States government created a new version of General of the Army. The government had considered creating a rank of field marshal, however George C. Marshall, the first officer to be nominated for the rank, objected to the proposed title as he did not want to be known as "Marshal Marshall"
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (xCA6C)
Marshal Marshall Marshall
- Jan Brady
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 15, 2024 11:52 AM (QDSRR)
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I felt that the cop climbing the ladder and retreating story was not accurate. Now the current official story as reported on the Fox News site is the cop was trying to find a way to the roof ( there was no ladder ) and subsequently got onto the shoulders of another cop and looked over and saw the guy pointing the gun at him and he ducked and fell back off the other cop's shoulder.
I'll wait another 24 hours to see if this story is accurate.
Posted by: polynikes
Cop had better be 10 ft tall. Actually, both of them.
I'll wait another 24 hours to see if this story is accurate.
Posted by: polynikes
Cop had better be 10 ft tall. Actually, both of them.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:53 AM (NzK/m)
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‘six star police chiefs who fail and get fired’
Maybe they get to keep the stars from their last job and they accumulate them.
Watch the hell out for the 50 star police chief because he’s going to be an epic failure.
‘six star police chiefs who fail and get fired’
Maybe they get to keep the stars from their last job and they accumulate them.
Watch the hell out for the 50 star police chief because he’s going to be an epic failure.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 15, 2024 11:53 AM (jbnUc)
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>>236 209 >>And there's no guarantee the next Democrat (or uniparty Republican) wouldn't terminate it on their first day. Unless there's a way around that.
Well no shit. That's true with everything. Trump took DEI out of the military, Biden put it back. Trump closed the border, Biden threw it wide open. And on and on.
Elections always matter which is why it's a good thing to win them but when we lose of course the left will try and undo everything one of our side puts in place. Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep doing everything we can to get our way.
Posted by: JackStraw
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FedGov, regardless of who is president is about to hit a fiscal iceberg and austerity will become the new norm. The usual sour economy lasts about a decade from severe fiscal crises and it will be a rough decade if we are lucky. Worst outcomes include something like Yugoslavian implosion after being cut off from foreign loans after the Cold War ended.
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If only congress would defund FedGov. But even that wouldn't be a permanent solution. If the economy collapses it would likely be one of the few entities to survive. *spits*
Well no shit. That's true with everything. Trump took DEI out of the military, Biden put it back. Trump closed the border, Biden threw it wide open. And on and on.
Elections always matter which is why it's a good thing to win them but when we lose of course the left will try and undo everything one of our side puts in place. Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep doing everything we can to get our way.
Posted by: JackStraw
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FedGov, regardless of who is president is about to hit a fiscal iceberg and austerity will become the new norm. The usual sour economy lasts about a decade from severe fiscal crises and it will be a rough decade if we are lucky. Worst outcomes include something like Yugoslavian implosion after being cut off from foreign loans after the Cold War ended.
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If only congress would defund FedGov. But even that wouldn't be a permanent solution. If the economy collapses it would likely be one of the few entities to survive. *spits*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2024 11:53 AM (Q4IgG)
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The military leadership is so rotten, it'll be hard to find suitable replacements.
Maybe only promote those that state we need to go back to military readiness/fitness standards of 25 years ago.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
E-4 Mafia.
Posted by: rickb223
Fairly certain that's the lane Schlicter would be driving his Peterbilt in, delivering the goods.
Maybe only promote those that state we need to go back to military readiness/fitness standards of 25 years ago.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
E-4 Mafia.
Posted by: rickb223
Fairly certain that's the lane Schlicter would be driving his Peterbilt in, delivering the goods.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (vjiO5)
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285 Clarence Thomas still goes on my modern Rushmore.
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For several years now I've held him to be the single most admirable person in the federal government.
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For several years now I've held him to be the single most admirable person in the federal government.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (woPEM)
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he did not want to be known as "Marshal Marshall"
Posted by: Archimedes
If a Chicago retailer had joined the British army and risen to its top rank, he would've been Field Marshal Marshall field.
Posted by: Archimedes
If a Chicago retailer had joined the British army and risen to its top rank, he would've been Field Marshal Marshall field.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (v6JzV)
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Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (mIs2x)
I knew this would be you as soon as I saw a long post about Argentina.
I knew this would be you as soon as I saw a long post about Argentina.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (7WnGI)
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Independent of that, the dramatic change in the ratio of those working to those not will put a serious damper on productivity.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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Dunno. Much of our measurement of actual productivity is flawed because of the move to a service and a massive government employment sector. That makes it very hard to actually measure individual productivity in something like education, health, etc. goods production.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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Dunno. Much of our measurement of actual productivity is flawed because of the move to a service and a massive government employment sector. That makes it very hard to actually measure individual productivity in something like education, health, etc. goods production.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (mIs2x)
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305 If only congress would defund FedGov. But even that wouldn't be a permanent solution. If the economy collapses it would likely be one of the few entities to survive. *spits*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2024 11:53 AM (Q4IgG)
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"Cut theirs, not mine."
"No, cut theirs, not mine."
"Okay, we'll cut foreign aid."
"Hooray!"
*foreign aid does not get cut*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2024 11:53 AM (Q4IgG)
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"Cut theirs, not mine."
"No, cut theirs, not mine."
"Okay, we'll cut foreign aid."
"Hooray!"
*foreign aid does not get cut*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (GBKbO)
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One of my favorite changes in the post Vietnam era was the development of the BCTP, Battle Command Training Program. When before a Battalions "test" or "evaluation" was a bunch of set piece actions, the BCTP was designed to be a test for the Battalion staff, and Brigade staff and Division staff. They brought in retired Generals (Grange and Cavasos were two I worked with several times) and their job was to mentor the leaders. It was not a pass/fail thing. It was designed to teach the leadership "Generalship". That was Cavasos' word and it is a good one. We need that again.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (W/lyH)
313
For those paying attention, Clarence Thomas gave a great big shout out about the appointments clause in a recent opinion, and Judge Cannon noticed, picked up the ball, and ran with it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (pgG81)
I want to believe he wrote that because that was consensus among his justice peers and would be the ruling if came up to SCOTUS - thus he got the affirmation needed to include that in his opinion to stop this process before the inevitable time wasting happens...
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 11:45 AM (pgG81)
I want to believe he wrote that because that was consensus among his justice peers and would be the ruling if came up to SCOTUS - thus he got the affirmation needed to include that in his opinion to stop this process before the inevitable time wasting happens...
Posted by: Boswell at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (K+UlC)
314
All just in time for my retirement. Yay.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 11:52 AM (2fIO4)
“No retirement for you! Also no soup!”
~ Soup Nazi
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 11:52 AM (2fIO4)
“No retirement for you! Also no soup!”
~ Soup Nazi
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (EXuhY)
315
Judge declared a mistrial with prejudice. Prosecution found to have withheld evidence.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Aw crap.
Nope. Schlichter has a column on it. There was blatant prosecutorial misconduct, and double jeopardy had already attached, so he's home free, and that's good, because them's the rules.
HOWEVER. I want to see what happens to the prosecutors who withheld evidence.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Aw crap.
Nope. Schlichter has a column on it. There was blatant prosecutorial misconduct, and double jeopardy had already attached, so he's home free, and that's good, because them's the rules.
HOWEVER. I want to see what happens to the prosecutors who withheld evidence.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:55 AM (xCA6C)
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For several years now I've held him to be the single most admirable person in the federal government.
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This Alito fellow isn't too shabby either. To think he was the backup pick.
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This Alito fellow isn't too shabby either. To think he was the backup pick.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:55 AM (sX1BW)
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Speaking of shootings, anyone know how the Baldwin trial is going?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
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Prosecutors hid evidence from defense in a clear Brady violation (I studied at Twitter Law).
I mean...Baldwin's a shithead and probably should be in jail, but our bigger problem as a nation is that prosecutors feel safe enough to break ironclad rules in even high profile cases.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (GBKbO)
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Judge was waiting for an excuse to throw this out. And the idiot prosecutors handed her an excuse on a silver platter. I'm not sure if the prosecution intentionally hid evidence or not. But the case was fucked sideways from the very beginning with a comically bad investigation and collection of evidence. It was almost like the police and investigators deliberately tanked the case. Which I'm sure they did.
I note that the judge chose the most extreme -- and rare -- remedy for a Brady violation. She could have declared a mistrial or barred the prosecution from introducing certain evidence. But no: she threw the case out WITH PREJUDICE. The fix was in.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)
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Prosecutors hid evidence from defense in a clear Brady violation (I studied at Twitter Law).
I mean...Baldwin's a shithead and probably should be in jail, but our bigger problem as a nation is that prosecutors feel safe enough to break ironclad rules in even high profile cases.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:48 AM (GBKbO)
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Judge was waiting for an excuse to throw this out. And the idiot prosecutors handed her an excuse on a silver platter. I'm not sure if the prosecution intentionally hid evidence or not. But the case was fucked sideways from the very beginning with a comically bad investigation and collection of evidence. It was almost like the police and investigators deliberately tanked the case. Which I'm sure they did.
I note that the judge chose the most extreme -- and rare -- remedy for a Brady violation. She could have declared a mistrial or barred the prosecution from introducing certain evidence. But no: she threw the case out WITH PREJUDICE. The fix was in.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 15, 2024 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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It's going to take a cadre of about 500 Fire Eating Sonsabitches, to wade through the Pentagon like scythe swinging harbingers of Departmental Death.
And the Presidential Appointments and Delegations, that'll allow a mere Bird Colonel to tell a Three Star to sit down, shut up, and TAKE IT.
One thing that has to be cut off at the knees. ALL of those "high ranking officers" ABSOLUTELY RELY on their "Rolodex" of contacts. Who they know. Strings they can pull. Influence they can wield.
THAT SHIT as got to get SHUT DOWN, and SHUT DOWN HARD.
I don't know how to do it, but I do know that it has to happen.
And, yes. I do know that an "old chap" network CAN work for the good. Cutting through red tape, a-la a Patton-eque General or such getting shit done.
But it's abuse in the here and now, is cancerous. Excise it, at least until the decks have been cleared for a New Leadership.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
And the Presidential Appointments and Delegations, that'll allow a mere Bird Colonel to tell a Three Star to sit down, shut up, and TAKE IT.
One thing that has to be cut off at the knees. ALL of those "high ranking officers" ABSOLUTELY RELY on their "Rolodex" of contacts. Who they know. Strings they can pull. Influence they can wield.
THAT SHIT as got to get SHUT DOWN, and SHUT DOWN HARD.
I don't know how to do it, but I do know that it has to happen.
And, yes. I do know that an "old chap" network CAN work for the good. Cutting through red tape, a-la a Patton-eque General or such getting shit done.
But it's abuse in the here and now, is cancerous. Excise it, at least until the decks have been cleared for a New Leadership.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 15, 2024 11:55 AM (kQgoX)
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Imagine the state of the world when a conservative wet dream is just leadership. Even worse, its still just going to be a dream. Trump was notorious for surrounding himself with fools.
Posted by: lordcsmith at July 15, 2024 11:55 AM (NsSBV)
320
New try: https://tinyurl.com/2dxsytch
Posted by: catman at July 15, 2024 11:56 AM (4HMlb)
321
Dismissed with prejudice because the prosecutor decided to act like a giant faggot.
Posted by: Robert at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (z9GtU)
IMO the judge was looking for an excuse. The questionable ammo provided to investigators was dismissed as not relative and also the guy who supplied the alleged ammo was not credible.
Bottom line is that the alleged ammo was irrelevant to the charges. The defense used it to as a technicality to attempt to get the case dismissed. The skirt judge did just that.
Posted by: Robert at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (z9GtU)
IMO the judge was looking for an excuse. The questionable ammo provided to investigators was dismissed as not relative and also the guy who supplied the alleged ammo was not credible.
Bottom line is that the alleged ammo was irrelevant to the charges. The defense used it to as a technicality to attempt to get the case dismissed. The skirt judge did just that.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2024 11:56 AM (B1dzx)
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317 I note that the judge chose the most extreme -- and rare -- remedy for a Brady violation. She could have declared a mistrial or barred the prosecution from introducing certain evidence. But no: she threw the case out WITH PREJUDICE. The fix was in.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 15, 2024 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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So...everyone sucks.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 15, 2024 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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So...everyone sucks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
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HOWEVER. I want to see what happens to the prosecutors who withheld evidence.
Posted by: Archimedes
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Posted by: Archimedes
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:56 AM (NzK/m)
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323 323 HOWEVER. I want to see what happens to the prosecutors who withheld evidence.
Posted by: Archimedes
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:56 AM (NzK/m)
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One will be AG of NM in less than a decade.
Posted by: Archimedes
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:56 AM (NzK/m)
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One will be AG of NM in less than a decade.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:56 AM (sX1BW)
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A box of ammo in Arizona that never left Arizona, while the picture was being filmed in New Mexico.
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And had nothing to do with whether Shithead acted negligently.
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And had nothing to do with whether Shithead acted negligently.
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 15, 2024 11:57 AM (Jh5b+)
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So...everyone sucks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
Thought it was just me!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
Thought it was just me!!
Posted by: Kamala at July 15, 2024 11:57 AM (7WnGI)
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309 Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:50 AM (mIs2x)
I knew this would be you as soon as I saw a long post about Argentina.
Posted by: ...
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Heh. Getting predictable in my old age yelling at clouds era. I suspect, but do not know, that the Great Depression and Spain's internal economy was a factor in the Spanish Civil War as well. The French Revolution and the English Civil Wars, were also based on government overspending and debt as well. Even good ole King John's internal unrest leading to the Magna Carta was due in part to his foolish and futile attempts to keep his French lands but levying massive taxes on his English subjects to pay for it.
I need to broaden my examples as my old ones are getting stale I guess.
I knew this would be you as soon as I saw a long post about Argentina.
Posted by: ...
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Heh. Getting predictable in my old age yelling at clouds era. I suspect, but do not know, that the Great Depression and Spain's internal economy was a factor in the Spanish Civil War as well. The French Revolution and the English Civil Wars, were also based on government overspending and debt as well. Even good ole King John's internal unrest leading to the Magna Carta was due in part to his foolish and futile attempts to keep his French lands but levying massive taxes on his English subjects to pay for it.
I need to broaden my examples as my old ones are getting stale I guess.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:58 AM (mIs2x)
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Which is why my heart says that Trump should pick Vivek as his VP. Last year, Vivek was on the All In podcast telling the Besties that Dept. of Ed needs to be eliminated, and that he knew how it could be done. Last month on All In, Trump said that he'd eliminate the DoE, among other agencies. It makes sense fiscally, as our gov't is too bloated to continue to finance with debt, much less operate properly.
The only way to eliminate the Deep State is to privatize it and/or conduct wholesale firings. We're at the point where our financial solvency now depends upon it.
It's a good start, but until we reduce expenditures on SS and Medicare/Medicaid, it will be for nought.
The only way to eliminate the Deep State is to privatize it and/or conduct wholesale firings. We're at the point where our financial solvency now depends upon it.
It's a good start, but until we reduce expenditures on SS and Medicare/Medicaid, it will be for nought.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 11:58 AM (xCA6C)
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If you can't fire civil service personnel, you don't have to transfer them. Just strip them of their jobs: no duties, no deadlines, no reports, no access, no phone, no security card, no computer, no parking space, not even a desk. They can have a chair, because we're humane, but that chair has to be off in some empty room (along with 1,000 others) because they don't have the clearance to even hear office gossip. They get to sit there idle: nothing more.
It will be cheaper to pay them to do nothing than to pay them for doing something.
It will be cheaper to pay them to do nothing than to pay them for doing something.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 15, 2024 11:59 AM (TOe+Q)
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Someone with power (Musk?) should announce considering taking out contracts on anyone who publicly suggested assassination and has not publicly apologized in the next 72 hours.
Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at July 15, 2024 11:59 AM (JRP2U)
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I knew this would be you as soon as I saw a long post about Argentina.
Posted by: ...
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Heh. Getting predictable in my old age yelling at clouds era. I suspect, but do not know, that the Great Depression and Spain's internal economy was a factor in the Spanish Civil War as well. The French Revolution and the English Civil Wars, were also based on government overspending and debt as well. Even good ole King John's internal unrest leading to the Magna Carta was due in part to his foolish and futile attempts to keep his French lands but levying massive taxes on his English subjects to pay for it.
I need to broaden my examples as my old ones are getting stale I guess.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:58 AM (mIs2x)
Reagan had Thatcher and John Paul II. Trump has Milei and Giorgia Meloni.
Posted by: ...
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Heh. Getting predictable in my old age yelling at clouds era. I suspect, but do not know, that the Great Depression and Spain's internal economy was a factor in the Spanish Civil War as well. The French Revolution and the English Civil Wars, were also based on government overspending and debt as well. Even good ole King John's internal unrest leading to the Magna Carta was due in part to his foolish and futile attempts to keep his French lands but levying massive taxes on his English subjects to pay for it.
I need to broaden my examples as my old ones are getting stale I guess.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:58 AM (mIs2x)
Reagan had Thatcher and John Paul II. Trump has Milei and Giorgia Meloni.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 15, 2024 11:59 AM (QDSRR)
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It will be cheaper to pay them to do nothing than to pay them for doing something.
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Correct.
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Correct.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 11:59 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 15, 2024 12:00 PM (WsJuq)
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Cop had better be 10 ft tall. Actually, both of them.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:53 AM (NzK/m)
It was not from the ground .
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:53 AM (NzK/m)
It was not from the ground .
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2024 12:00 PM (B1dzx)
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I knew this would be you as soon as I saw a long post about Argentina.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (7WnGI)
I thought it might be by Carlos Reutemann, but then I remembered he's dead.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2024 11:54 AM (7WnGI)
I thought it might be by Carlos Reutemann, but then I remembered he's dead.
Posted by: spindrift at July 15, 2024 12:00 PM (OguvZ)
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I need to broaden my examples as my old ones are getting stale I guess.
Posted by: whig
Or just restate them in limerick form.
Posted by: whig
Or just restate them in limerick form.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 15, 2024 12:00 PM (v6JzV)
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I live in a very conservative valley in a conservative state. With that said I look around at how people dress, the signs on their vehicles, the massive number of tattoos Croc's cowboy boots and oh so many other things. I'm guessing none of these people see anything vulgar about PDT and most certainly not a pair of gold tennis shoes. My little bit of MT cannot be an outlier, check other areas of the country and I believe you'll see the same thing.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 15, 2024 12:00 PM (2NHgQ)
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HOWEVER. I want to see what happens to the prosecutors who withheld evidence.
Since she was a "special" prosecutor hired by the state for this one case, I suspect that at worst it just means she won't get hired for another one and go back to her private defense attorney practice.
Since she was a "special" prosecutor hired by the state for this one case, I suspect that at worst it just means she won't get hired for another one and go back to her private defense attorney practice.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2024 12:00 PM (/y8xj)
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E-4 Mafia.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:12 AM (NzK/m)
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I dunno, judging by the E-4s I see at the gate every weekend, they are not the ones we are looking for.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 11:12 AM (NzK/m)
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I dunno, judging by the E-4s I see at the gate every weekend, they are not the ones we are looking for.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (DRSnL)
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Looks like it’s gonna be JD Vance. He just left his home with a huge motorcade
Posted by: Jaimo at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (fYstg)
342
"Secret Service Has Reviewed And Strengthened RNC Security"
Operation Upset in Milwaukee is a no-go. Repeat, Operation Upset in Milwaukee is a NO-GO!
Operation Upset in Milwaukee is a no-go. Repeat, Operation Upset in Milwaukee is a NO-GO!
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (Ectld)
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I need to broaden my examples as my old ones are getting stale I guess.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:58 AM (mIs2x)
French toast is best with stale bread.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:58 AM (mIs2x)
French toast is best with stale bread.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (7WnGI)
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Diversity, equity and inclusion in the military are necessities for the United States, Bishop Garrison, the senior advisor to the secretary of defense for human capital and diversity, equity and inclusion said.
Bullshit!
All DEI does is highlight and exploit differences. The military wins (not much of that lately) when they fight as a team. DEI is the antithesis of teamwork. Eliminate it now.
Bullshit!
All DEI does is highlight and exploit differences. The military wins (not much of that lately) when they fight as a team. DEI is the antithesis of teamwork. Eliminate it now.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (W/lyH)
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Posted by: lordcsmith at July 15, 2024 11:55 AM (NsSBV)
Thanks for that prognosticatory word of encouragement, your lordship.
Thanks for that prognosticatory word of encouragement, your lordship.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (Zy6LG)
346
Firing 95% of the flag officers would be a good start. NO PENSIONS. NO BENEFITS.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (17s+e)
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341 Looks like it’s gonna be JD Vance. He just left his home with a huge motorcade
Posted by: Jaimo at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (fYstg)
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DeWine said that he granted Vance more protection in the wake of the assassination attempt.
Could be just nonsense cover story, but it has been said.
Posted by: Jaimo at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (fYstg)
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DeWine said that he granted Vance more protection in the wake of the assassination attempt.
Could be just nonsense cover story, but it has been said.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (GBKbO)
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They can have a chair, because we're humane, but that chair has to be off in some empty room (along with 1,000 others) because they don't have the clearance to even hear office gossip. They get to sit there idle: nothing more.
I did a part time gig for a couple of years after I retired. My desk was in a big cubicle farm, and you've just described how many of its denizens passed the day. You might not like it, but they seemed very happy.
I did a part time gig for a couple of years after I retired. My desk was in a big cubicle farm, and you've just described how many of its denizens passed the day. You might not like it, but they seemed very happy.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (JeYYB)
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There are about 7 seats in NY that were considered as “competitive”, three of those would be Republican “pickups”, that is a chance to gain a seat. The Democrats, in violation of a constitutional amendment passed by the voters have tried to use their judicial appointments to subvert the redistricting and throw those races in their favor. Notwithstanding the lawsuits it now looks like Republicans will not only protect the seats they hold, but the 3 races are moving into the republican column.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (TkpK/)
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I have no complaints at all having Kurt Schlicter as SecDef.
Sanity would rule.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 15, 2024 12:00 PM
Press conferences would be lit.
Sanity would rule.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 15, 2024 12:00 PM
Press conferences would be lit.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (ZANHd)
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Looks like it’s gonna be JD Vance. He just left his home with a huge motorcade
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Source?
I was kind of hoping Vivek. Hey, I like what he says. I don't really care too much. The VP is the VP.
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Source?
I was kind of hoping Vivek. Hey, I like what he says. I don't really care too much. The VP is the VP.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (sX1BW)
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All just in time for my retirement. Yay.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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Aim for wealth preservation rather than yield.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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Aim for wealth preservation rather than yield.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (mIs2x)
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347. Hmmm. How about the others?
Posted by: Jaimo at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (fYstg)
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342 "Secret Service Has Reviewed And Strengthened RNC Security"
Operation Upset in Milwaukee is a no-go. Repeat, Operation Upset in Milwaukee is a NO-GO!
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (Ectld)
The future POTUS would be in attendance at any national convention. Is there really a need to 'strengthen' any security?
Operation Upset in Milwaukee is a no-go. Repeat, Operation Upset in Milwaukee is a NO-GO!
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (Ectld)
The future POTUS would be in attendance at any national convention. Is there really a need to 'strengthen' any security?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (QDSRR)
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It will be cheaper to pay them to do nothing than to pay them for doing something.
"But I still get to surf pron until my full retirement, right?"
-- Average Civil Serpent
"But I still get to surf pron until my full retirement, right?"
-- Average Civil Serpent
Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (/y8xj)
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Vance:
- young
- not an insider
- very very smart
- good for "rust belt" and "flyover country" plus not bad at all for the coasts
- handsome, helps with chicks
- young
- not an insider
- very very smart
- good for "rust belt" and "flyover country" plus not bad at all for the coasts
- handsome, helps with chicks
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (s3qiR)
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Every flag officer has been compromised and should be cashiered.
And between both DIE and the Clot Shot they should then be aggressively prosecuted.
And between both DIE and the Clot Shot they should then be aggressively prosecuted.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (oZhjI)
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"DeWine said that he granted Vance more protection in the wake of the assassination attempt."
For personal safety, I would fire any protection provided by DeWine.
For personal safety, I would fire any protection provided by DeWine.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (Ectld)
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And the stock market is roaring. I believe investors are relieved that PDT is still in the race.
And yes it will be Vance. The motorcade is the equivalent of kamala jumping up and down and screeching when what would become her campaign bus arrived.
And yes it will be Vance. The motorcade is the equivalent of kamala jumping up and down and screeching when what would become her campaign bus arrived.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (2NHgQ)
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Source was Mike Gallagher on his radio show just before signing off.
Posted by: Jaimo at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (fYstg)
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I dunno, judging by the E-4s I see at the gate every weekend, they are not the ones we are looking for.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (DRSnL)
You ought to see what waddles around the PX at Ft Lewis.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (DRSnL)
You ought to see what waddles around the PX at Ft Lewis.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (W/lyH)
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Bishop Garrison, the senior advisor to the secretary of defense for human capital and diversity, equity and inclusion says "Diversity, equity and inclusion is essential to the military and he loves his phony baloney job."
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (17s+e)
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Source?
I was kind of hoping Vivek. Hey, I like what he says. I don't really care too much. The VP is the VP.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (sX1BW)
He needs a strong pick that can carry the torch for another 8 years.
Source?
I was kind of hoping Vivek. Hey, I like what he says. I don't really care too much. The VP is the VP.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (sX1BW)
He needs a strong pick that can carry the torch for another 8 years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (Zz0t1)
365
I knew this would be you as soon as I saw a long post about Argentina.
Posted by: ...
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Heh. Getting predictable in my old age yelling at clouds era. I suspect, but do not know, that the Great Depression and Spain's internal economy was a factor in the Spanish Civil War as well. The French Revolution and the English Civil Wars, were also based on government overspending and debt as well. Even good ole King John's internal unrest leading to the Magna Carta was due in part to his foolish and futile attempts to keep his French lands but levying massive taxes on his English subjects to pay for it.
I need to broaden my examples as my old ones are getting stale I guess.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:58 AM (mIs2x)
I see you completely neglected to mention belted onions. Be better.
Posted by: ...
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Heh. Getting predictable in my old age yelling at clouds era. I suspect, but do not know, that the Great Depression and Spain's internal economy was a factor in the Spanish Civil War as well. The French Revolution and the English Civil Wars, were also based on government overspending and debt as well. Even good ole King John's internal unrest leading to the Magna Carta was due in part to his foolish and futile attempts to keep his French lands but levying massive taxes on his English subjects to pay for it.
I need to broaden my examples as my old ones are getting stale I guess.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 11:58 AM (mIs2x)
I see you completely neglected to mention belted onions. Be better.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (xCA6C)
366
“ Looks like it’s gonna be JD Vance. He just left his home with a huge motorcade”
*sneaks in the back door*
*sneaks in the back door*
Posted by: Glenn Youngkin at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (TkpK/)
367
Its amazing the Navy can deploy given the herds of bloated cows.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (n17eQ)
368
It can be lunch time, waiting for Ace
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (jq/HH)
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (hKf3k)
370
338 I live in a very conservative valley in a conservative state. With that said I look around at how people dress, the signs on their vehicles, the massive number of tattoos Croc's cowboy boots and oh so many other things. I'm guessing none of these people see anything vulgar about PDT and most certainly not a pair of gold tennis shoes. My little bit of MT cannot be an outlier, check other areas of the country and I believe you'll see the same thing.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 15, 2024 12:00 PM (2NHgQ)
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Yes because that is the exact meaning of vulgar, common.
The elite view that as the failing that's why they rail against populism too.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 15, 2024 12:00 PM (2NHgQ)
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Yes because that is the exact meaning of vulgar, common.
The elite view that as the failing that's why they rail against populism too.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (2fIO4)
371
my assumption is Vance has seemed (to PDJT) to be sharp and mentor-able
like a son, kinda
it's a good pick! I'm happy I just wish I trusted Ohio but they're like PA now
like a son, kinda
it's a good pick! I'm happy I just wish I trusted Ohio but they're like PA now
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (s3qiR)
372
betting markets had Vance at 70% a few days back. good for him! good for us!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (vjiO5)
374
Firing 95% of the flag officers would be a good start. NO PENSIONS. NO BENEFITS.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (17s+e)
Oh, let them have their pensions.
But...
Let it be known to the top 100 DoD contractors that if they hire them, their probability of win on future contracts goes to 0.01%.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (17s+e)
Oh, let them have their pensions.
But...
Let it be known to the top 100 DoD contractors that if they hire them, their probability of win on future contracts goes to 0.01%.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (Zz0t1)
376
357 Vance:
- young
- not an insider
- very very smart
- good for "rust belt" and "flyover country" plus not bad at all for the coasts
- handsome, helps with chicks
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (s3qiR)
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Yale education. Equated Trump to Hitler.
Eh. He seems like an opportunist to me. I have nothing in particular against opportunists as long as pressure keeps them moving in the right direction.
But Vance doesn't strike me much as a man of deep principle.
- young
- not an insider
- very very smart
- good for "rust belt" and "flyover country" plus not bad at all for the coasts
- handsome, helps with chicks
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (s3qiR)
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Yale education. Equated Trump to Hitler.
Eh. He seems like an opportunist to me. I have nothing in particular against opportunists as long as pressure keeps them moving in the right direction.
But Vance doesn't strike me much as a man of deep principle.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
377
Or just restate them in limerick form.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Snort. I do not have the Muldoon touch. Highlanders tend toward teh Claymore and chants rather than singing and poetry.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Snort. I do not have the Muldoon touch. Highlanders tend toward teh Claymore and chants rather than singing and poetry.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (mIs2x)
378
Notwithstanding the lawsuits it now looks like Republicans will not only protect the seats they hold, but the 3 races are moving into the republican column.
In the last election in NY, Zeldin came close for gov and the no-name with no money that ran against Schumer posted a 10 point loss when Schumer normally wins by 20 or more.
But...I suspect in 2022 the Ds only engaged in their normal fraud and I suspect we'll see the 2020 level in 2024...
In the last election in NY, Zeldin came close for gov and the no-name with no money that ran against Schumer posted a 10 point loss when Schumer normally wins by 20 or more.
But...I suspect in 2022 the Ds only engaged in their normal fraud and I suspect we'll see the 2020 level in 2024...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (oZhjI)
379
...Which is why my heart says that Trump should pick Vivek as his VP. Last year, Vivek was on the All In podcast telling the Besties that Dept. of Ed needs to be eliminated, and that he knew how it could be done. Last month on All In, Trump said that he'd eliminate the DoE, among other agencies. It makes sense fiscally, as our gov't is too bloated to continue to finance with debt, much less operate properly.
The only way to eliminate the Deep State is to privatize it and/or conduct wholesale firings. We're at the point where our financial solvency now depends upon it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (QDSRR)
Nah. Put V in as Chief of Staff. You need a brilliant mind and the heart of a butcher to be really good in that role. We know that V has the mind.
Let's see if he's got the guts.
Besides. CoS has far more day to day power over the bureaucracy than just about anyone save for the CINC himself.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
The only way to eliminate the Deep State is to privatize it and/or conduct wholesale firings. We're at the point where our financial solvency now depends upon it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 15, 2024 11:51 AM (QDSRR)
Nah. Put V in as Chief of Staff. You need a brilliant mind and the heart of a butcher to be really good in that role. We know that V has the mind.
Let's see if he's got the guts.
Besides. CoS has far more day to day power over the bureaucracy than just about anyone save for the CINC himself.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (kQgoX)
380
The fact that Don Jr. loves JD might have put him over the edge. Who knows.
Posted by: Jaimo at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (fYstg)
381
Looks like it’s gonna be JD Vance. He just left his home with a huge motorcade
Posted by: Jaimo at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (fYstg)
One car for Vance and one car for his giant...security detail.
And a third for his big dick.
Posted by: Jaimo at July 15, 2024 12:01 PM (fYstg)
One car for Vance and one car for his giant...security detail.
And a third for his big dick.
Posted by: Robert, yeah I went there wanna fight about it? at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (z9GtU)
382
There's my answer: the Handlers© did an EO
June 25, 2021
Executive Order on Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility in the Federal Workforce
https://tinyurl.com/bdhp5zjz
goes to WH dot gov
June 25, 2021
Executive Order on Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility in the Federal Workforce
https://tinyurl.com/bdhp5zjz
goes to WH dot gov
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (/7KEl)
383
Secret Service Has Reviewed And Strengthened RNC Security"
My confidence soars!
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (hKf3k)
"All the cows are out! Quick!!! Close the barn doors!!!!"
My confidence soars!
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (hKf3k)
"All the cows are out! Quick!!! Close the barn doors!!!!"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)
384
Forbes also reporting the Vance Motorcade thing.
Vance is fine with me. Don't really know much about him.
Vance is fine with me. Don't really know much about him.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (sX1BW)
385
"Secret Service Has Reviewed And Strengthened RNC Security"
My confidence soars!
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (hKf3k)
***
Barn door status:
( ) Open
( ) Closed
My confidence soars!
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (hKf3k)
***
Barn door status:
( ) Open
( ) Closed
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (7WnGI)
387
Noodus ace le-cannon
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (J2vNu)
388
First President or VP with facial hair since Taft.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (B1dzx)
389
But Vance doesn't strike me much as a man of deep principle.
it is hard to judge such things from afar
I bet he's a quick learning. people change.
it is hard to judge such things from afar
I bet he's a quick learning. people change.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (s3qiR)
390
357 Vance:
- young
- not an insider
- very very smart
- good for "rust belt" and "flyover country" plus not bad at all for the coasts
- handsome, helps with chicks
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (s3qiR)
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Also bearded, reminds me of Grant.
- young
- not an insider
- very very smart
- good for "rust belt" and "flyover country" plus not bad at all for the coasts
- handsome, helps with chicks
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (s3qiR)
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Also bearded, reminds me of Grant.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (2fIO4)
391
Nah. Put V in as Chief of Staff. You need a brilliant mind and the heart of a butcher to be really good in that role. We know that V has the mind.
Let's see if he's got the guts."
I agree. C of S is a position with some real power, VP ain't squat, it's just a figurehead spot.
Let's see if he's got the guts."
I agree. C of S is a position with some real power, VP ain't squat, it's just a figurehead spot.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (wyMQY)
392
I see you completely neglected to mention belted onions. Be better.
Posted by: Archimedes
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I guess I need to rewatch Allo Allo to relearn fashion tips for onion sellers.
Posted by: Archimedes
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I guess I need to rewatch Allo Allo to relearn fashion tips for onion sellers.
Posted by: whig at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (mIs2x)
393
“ Looks like it’s gonna be JD Vance. He just left his home with a huge motorcade”
Ace deletes column he had and starts a furious re-write.
Ace deletes column he had and starts a furious re-write.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (NzK/m)
394
Forbes also reporting the Vance Motorcade thing.
Vance is fine with me. Don't really know much about him.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (sX1BW)
Ditto.
If he's the pick, he will rip Kamala a new ass in the VP debate.
Vance is fine with me. Don't really know much about him.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (sX1BW)
Ditto.
If he's the pick, he will rip Kamala a new ass in the VP debate.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (W/lyH)
395
"Secret Service Has Reviewed And Strengthened RNC Security"
So more "victim" groups will be represented among the agents?
So more "victim" groups will be represented among the agents?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (oZhjI)
396
Vance looks like one of those guys in the Civil War photos.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (V13WU)
397
Yale education. Equated Trump to Hitler.
Eh. He seems like an opportunist to me. I have nothing in particular against opportunists as long as pressure keeps them moving in the right direction.
But Vance doesn't strike me much as a man of deep principle.
And he admitted he was wrong. Like so many of us, he misjudged Trump, but changed his mind. I can live with that.
Eh. He seems like an opportunist to me. I have nothing in particular against opportunists as long as pressure keeps them moving in the right direction.
But Vance doesn't strike me much as a man of deep principle.
And he admitted he was wrong. Like so many of us, he misjudged Trump, but changed his mind. I can live with that.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (xCA6C)
398
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (vjiO5)
I hadn't recognized a nic from the House of Lords here before, so from his comment I figured he was a troll.
I hadn't recognized a nic from the House of Lords here before, so from his comment I figured he was a troll.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (Zy6LG)
399
Looks like it’s gonna be JD Vance. He just left his home with a huge motorcade
I think I'm OK with that, at least among the names floated recently. What I want:
- a VP that the left hates at least as much as DJT
- two years of scorched earth
- DJT to retire at the end of January 2027 leaving his VP in the best position to vie for POTUS
- large rifle primers for $40/1000
- a pony
- ice cream
I might get one of those.
I think I'm OK with that, at least among the names floated recently. What I want:
- a VP that the left hates at least as much as DJT
- two years of scorched earth
- DJT to retire at the end of January 2027 leaving his VP in the best position to vie for POTUS
- large rifle primers for $40/1000
- a pony
- ice cream
I might get one of those.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (/y8xj)
400
Nah. Put V in as Chief of Staff. You need a brilliant mind and the heart of a butcher to be really good in that role. We know that V has the mind.
Let's see if he's got the guts.
Besides. CoS has far more day to day power over the bureaucracy than just about anyone save for the CINC himself.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (kQgoX)
Jim, that is an absolutely brilliant idea.
Let's see if he's got the guts.
Besides. CoS has far more day to day power over the bureaucracy than just about anyone save for the CINC himself.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 15, 2024 12:05 PM (kQgoX)
Jim, that is an absolutely brilliant idea.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (QDSRR)
401
TheJames. Many pols have called each other names and then kissed and made up for political reasons. biden and kamala come to mind. Vance may also have grown politically after being in DC and realizes that PDT is the answer to the question.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (2NHgQ)
402
So if DEI was implemented in the military via Executive Order, it can be removed in the same manner by a new Preznit
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (/7KEl)
403
I agree. C of S is a position with some real power, VP ain't squat, it's just a figurehead spot.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (wyMQY)
In this case it is likely to be our 2028 candidate so it matters.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 12:06 PM (wyMQY)
In this case it is likely to be our 2028 candidate so it matters.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (7WnGI)
404
Its amazing the Navy can deploy given the herds of bloated cows.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (n17eQ)
Many women find a way to be excused from deployment given even the tiniest of forewarning.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (n17eQ)
Many women find a way to be excused from deployment given even the tiniest of forewarning.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (U7wke)
405
Looks like it’s gonna be JD Vance. He just left his home with a huge motorcade
...which would make a good feint.
...which would make a good feint.
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (hKf3k)
406
“ You ought to see what waddles around the PX at Ft Lewis.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (W/lyH)”
Burgers at the Smoke Bomb Grille. Good for about 10-15 pounds.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2024 12:03 PM (W/lyH)”
Burgers at the Smoke Bomb Grille. Good for about 10-15 pounds.
Posted by: Glenn Youngkin at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (TkpK/)
407
I think he spent a bit of time in Silicon Valley as a venture capitalist, making money. Knows all those guys, Thiel and the like.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (V13WU)
408
willowed and new post
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (2NHgQ)
409
Well if it's Vance I like him, although I still think Youngkin made better strategic sense.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (wyMQY)
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (7WnGI)
411
We don't even know how productive the country might be if regulation was fenced in to a reasonable amount. That might be the only way to escape the debt bomb.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (cf/0E)
412
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (2NHgQ)
Trump is the biggest example of that.
Trump is the biggest example of that.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2024 12:09 PM (B1dzx)
413
Anybody seen Tulsi?
Posted by: Marcus T at July 15, 2024 12:09 PM (TkpK/)
414
GHWBush derided Reagan's 'voodoo economics' but still got tapped for Veep
politicians talk a lot of shit, and it all has a finite shelf life
politicians talk a lot of shit, and it all has a finite shelf life
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 12:09 PM (/7KEl)
415
401 TheJames. Many pols have called each other names and then kissed and made up for political reasons. biden and kamala come to mind. Vance may also have grown politically after being in DC and realizes that PDT is the answer to the question.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (2NHgQ)
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Or he may not have.
I'm not a mind reader.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (2NHgQ)
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Or he may not have.
I'm not a mind reader.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 15, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 15, 2024 12:10 PM (JeYYB)
417
My little bit of MT cannot be an outlier, check other areas of the country and I believe you'll see the same thing.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
It's not. I'm in a red corner of the deep blue state of Washington. Our concept of vulgar is exemplified by the trailer trash who stole the WH.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
It's not. I'm in a red corner of the deep blue state of Washington. Our concept of vulgar is exemplified by the trailer trash who stole the WH.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at July 15, 2024 12:10 PM (vjiO5)
418
414 GHWBush derided Reagan's 'voodoo economics' but still got tapped for Veep
politicians talk a lot of shit, and it all has a finite shelf life
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 12:09 PM (/7KEl)
Reagan wanted Paul Laxalt as his VP. The RNC forced him to accept GHWB.
politicians talk a lot of shit, and it all has a finite shelf life
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 12:09 PM (/7KEl)
Reagan wanted Paul Laxalt as his VP. The RNC forced him to accept GHWB.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 15, 2024 12:11 PM (QDSRR)
419
George C. Marshall, the first officer to be nominated for the rank, objected to the proposed title as he did not want to be known as "Marshal Marshall"
Posted by: Archimedes
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Why?
Posted by: Archimedes
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Why?
Posted by: Major Major Major Major at July 15, 2024 12:11 PM (XeU6L)
420
Didn't Trump support Vance's Senate campaign after words were said ??
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2024 12:11 PM (V13WU)
421
416 Wait, Vance equated Trump to Hitler?
Trump's track record with picks continues?
Posted by: Seems Legit
You're playing checkers. Trump is playing 3D chess. If you don't think he's learned from his experience, you haven't been paying attention.
Trump's track record with picks continues?
Posted by: Seems Legit
You're playing checkers. Trump is playing 3D chess. If you don't think he's learned from his experience, you haven't been paying attention.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at July 15, 2024 12:12 PM (vjiO5)
422
If you’ve ever been in a leadership position, you quickly realize that some of the people who have material critiques of your actions, become your best people. I’m not talking about bomb throwers. I’m talking about people who may see a different way to achieve the mission. FWIW
Posted by: Marcus T at July 15, 2024 12:12 PM (TkpK/)
423
Vance was against Trump in 2016 and said in a text to his roommate before that , that Trump could be America's Hitler. Subsequently he met with Trump and his positions changed and he aligned with Trump in 2021 he was elected to the Senate.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2024 12:14 PM (B1dzx)
424
I think Trump realizes we are now in Death Race 2024. I'm fairly certain that will be made clear to everyone he brings on his team.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at July 15, 2024 12:19 PM (vjiO5)
425
348 I did a part time gig for a couple of years after I retired. My desk was in a big cubicle farm, and you've just described how many of its denizens passed the day. You might not like it, but they seemed very happy.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (xCA6C)
Most of 'em probably wouldn't notice a difference from their usual daily routine, either, except that the chairs wouldn't have armrests. But it would still be cheaper than paying them to do something.
Cheers!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 15, 2024 12:02 PM (xCA6C)
Most of 'em probably wouldn't notice a difference from their usual daily routine, either, except that the chairs wouldn't have armrests. But it would still be cheaper than paying them to do something.
Cheers!
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 15, 2024 12:42 PM (TOe+Q)
426
Our military's biggest problem
is there are way too many major Powers',
and not nearly enough Gunny Highways.
is there are way too many major Powers',
and not nearly enough Gunny Highways.
Posted by: omm at July 15, 2024 12:52 PM (WCuBP)
427
End military and government "pensions". Motivate people to quit instead of looking the other way or sticking it out for the sake of their retirement bribes.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at July 15, 2024 12:52 PM (E1DfV)
428
Where will President Trump find someone with the vision to fix the military in the manner recommended by Kurt Schlichter? I have a suggestion…
…Secretary of Defense Kurt Schlichter.
That right there brought a misting of tears to my eyes.
…Secretary of Defense Kurt Schlichter.
That right there brought a misting of tears to my eyes.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 15, 2024 12:53 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Ralph at July 15, 2024 01:21 PM (TysyT)
430
Chris Rufo had this to say today:
"Scene one: after President Trump ducks, a group of agents leaps to him and protects him with their bodies. A female agent who rushes to the stage acts bravely, without a doubt, but the point of the “huddle” is to protect the president. The agent was much shorter than President Trump, leaving his head and neck exposed after he stood up."
https://substack.com/home/post/p-146639983
In other words, management at the USSS has made its protection detail into a theatrical performance: "ritually huddle around the President" has replaced "protect him with your bodies."
For argument's sake, give Director Cheatle the benefit of the doubt: Her DEI is that of a useful idiot apparatchik, not that of a dedicated neo-Marxist operative out to destroy the Republic. But some of those operatives taught/indoctrinated her, or some of the people who taught/indoctrinated them.
"Scene one: after President Trump ducks, a group of agents leaps to him and protects him with their bodies. A female agent who rushes to the stage acts bravely, without a doubt, but the point of the “huddle” is to protect the president. The agent was much shorter than President Trump, leaving his head and neck exposed after he stood up."
https://substack.com/home/post/p-146639983
In other words, management at the USSS has made its protection detail into a theatrical performance: "ritually huddle around the President" has replaced "protect him with your bodies."
For argument's sake, give Director Cheatle the benefit of the doubt: Her DEI is that of a useful idiot apparatchik, not that of a dedicated neo-Marxist operative out to destroy the Republic. But some of those operatives taught/indoctrinated her, or some of the people who taught/indoctrinated them.
Posted by: Peter B at July 15, 2024 01:48 PM (sCwkm)
431
Its amazing the Navy can deploy given the herds of bloated cows.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (n17eQ)
Many women find a way to be excused from deployment given even the tiniest of forewarning.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (U7wke)
My EM2 shipmate stated that he's staying for 20 years because "where else can you get paid to sit on a stool and scratch your belly." As he was sitting scratching his belly.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 15, 2024 12:04 PM (n17eQ)
Many women find a way to be excused from deployment given even the tiniest of forewarning.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (U7wke)
My EM2 shipmate stated that he's staying for 20 years because "where else can you get paid to sit on a stool and scratch your belly." As he was sitting scratching his belly.
Posted by: torabora at July 15, 2024 02:01 PM (8NJgB)
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This Schlichter guy sounds like he's got a good program.
Posted by: Curtis LeMay at July 15, 2024 02:02 PM (LaNzR)
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So if DEI was implemented in the military via Executive Order, it can be removed in the same manner by a new Preznit
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (/7KEl)
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DEI has to be killed with fire or the next Democrat simply pours money on it and it's back.
Posted by: Don Black at July 15, 2024 12:07 PM (/7KEl)
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DEI has to be killed with fire or the next Democrat simply pours money on it and it's back.
Posted by: torabora at July 15, 2024 02:03 PM (8NJgB)
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Schlicter is not bad, Kratman would be better
Posted by: JoshO at July 15, 2024 02:39 PM (LmUpe)
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Late to the comment thread here, but Kratman would be great.
Posted by: AFFA at July 15, 2024 03:41 PM (NMz5T)
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Some whose already put his rank on the table; Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller.
Posted by: Nuke'Em at July 15, 2024 03:53 PM (UiI03)
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Our Military needs to f get back to National Defense and that means guarding our Borders and so should those other Nations who need to close their Borders
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 15, 2024 04:16 PM (wGqjj)
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you can solve the problem by transferring them. Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alaska will get a bunch of new civilian workers.
NOOOO. Instead of punishing Elmendorf AFB create a new post/base out of one of the unused facilties on an existing base/post. This is where they will be sent. They will all have to work with one of their own kind. The budget will be extremely limited and their powers almost nil, just enough to continue destroying each other.
NOOOO. Instead of punishing Elmendorf AFB create a new post/base out of one of the unused facilties on an existing base/post. This is where they will be sent. They will all have to work with one of their own kind. The budget will be extremely limited and their powers almost nil, just enough to continue destroying each other.
Posted by: Sergeant Major at July 15, 2024 08:19 PM (hM+Ep)
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Want to eliminate civil service workers?
-Introduce the PACE exams again.
-Introduce up or out systems, like the military.
-Cut ther budgets and eliminate contract workers. This forces a reduction in force by each grade.
-Eliminate entire functions and divisions.
-Eliminate entire agencies.
-Introduce the PACE exams again.
-Introduce up or out systems, like the military.
-Cut ther budgets and eliminate contract workers. This forces a reduction in force by each grade.
-Eliminate entire functions and divisions.
-Eliminate entire agencies.
Posted by: Jane at July 15, 2024 10:57 PM (bXvrr)
Posted by: Jane at July 15, 2024 10:59 PM (bXvrr)
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Every officer who promoted DEI policies must be removed.
Every individual removed for refusing the death jab should be reinstated with back pay and a promotion.
Every Obama-Biden officer who was promoted must be removed or assigned to Thule or the equivalent for the remainder of their careers.
Every individual removed for refusing the death jab should be reinstated with back pay and a promotion.
Every Obama-Biden officer who was promoted must be removed or assigned to Thule or the equivalent for the remainder of their careers.
Posted by: Jane at July 15, 2024 11:15 PM (bXvrr)
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