Daily Tech News 30 June 2024

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Europe wants to deploy datacenters into space. Studies say it's feasible. (CNBC)
ASCEND's space-based data storage facilities would benefit from "infinite energy" captured from the sun and orbit at an altitude of around 1,400 kilometers (869.9 miles).
Well congratulations, your datacenter is now permanently running away from you at sixteen thousand miles per hour.

Fortunately the writer of this piece spoke to some people who aren't certifiably insane:
Winterson estimates that even a small 1 megawatt center in low earth orbit would need around 280,000 kilograms of rocket fuel per year at a cost of around $140 million in 2030 - a calculation based on a significant decrease in launch costs, which has yet to take place.
That's not the launch cost, that's the upkeep.

And that's for a tiny datacenter. The AI center Tesla is building right now is targeting not 1 megawatt but 500 - which would cost $70 billion per year to maintain given these assumptions.

Back on Earth, Tesla is spending around $4 billion on the entire datacenter.

Tech News

After the malicious domain polyfill.io was shut down by the domain registrar, it switched to polyfill.com. (Bleeping Computer)

Which had much less impact because nobody was using polyfill.com.

The registrar for that domain shut it down as well, and the hackers switched to polyfill.cloud - and a whole list of other domains, including various forms of bootcdn, bootcss, and staticfile.

In an interesting twist, the hackers behind the polyfill.io scheme (the original Polyfill library itself is innocuous and its developer innocent of all this) put their code on GitHub including their API keys and database password.

So if they hadn't already been taken off line they would have been hacked by now.
Unraveling Factorio's Lua security flaws. (Memory Corruption)

The game Factorio lets you add scripts written in the programming language Lua, which is intended to be safe - or mostly safe - for such things.

One researcher found that a malicious script could hack every player in a multi-player Factorio game simultaneously.

The article is excruciatingly detailed, which is great for me because I myself have written code that embeds Lua for scripting and I need to know this stuff.

Normal people will likely tune out after page 30.
A French court ordered global DNS providers like Google and Cloudflare to poison their data in order to block a pirate streaming site. Rather than comply, OpenDNS blocked France. (TorrentFreak)

Which has the same net effect: If you're in France you can't access the site by using OpenDNS.

Time to run my own DNS server again, maybe. Not that it's particularly hard; I have two dedicated and two virtual Linux servers running at the new house now.
The Associated Press is setting up a sister organisation explicitly for pay-to-play propaganda. (AP News)

The AP itself will continue with its current function of providing propaganda for backroom deals and political favours rather than cash.
Writing technical books for money. (The Architect Elevator)
Rule 1: Never write a technical book for the money.
Oh. Also:
Authors are those people who consider $500 a lot of money.
Publishing is pretty miserable for small authors now - which is to say anyone who isn't getting the benefit of a seven-figure money laundering deal - but then it always has been.
An experiment in Denver doled out varying levels of UBI to three test groups. (Colorado Sun)

Oh? What happened.
The percentage of people who had housing at the 10-month check-in of the Denver Basic Income Project climbed to 45%.
Well, that sounds great. What's the catch?
They were separated into three groups. Group A received $1,000 per month for a year. Group B received $6,500 the first month and $500 for the next 11 months. And group C, the control group, received $50 per month.
Seems reasonable.

Group A gets a small but steady income. Group B gets a big advance so they can get out of whatever hole they're in, but a much smaller income. And Group C gets shafted. Such is life.
About 45% of participants in all three groups were living in a house or apartment that they rented or owned by the study's 10-month check-in point, according to the research.
If the results in the control group are indistinguishable from the results in the trial group, the medicine had no effect.

Disclaimer: ~fluffles away~

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM

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1 yay

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 04:00 AM (NHMTR)

2 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 04:01 AM (fwDg9)

3 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes. Evening, Pixy.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 30, 2024 04:01 AM (ejWln)

4 fluffle = shuffle?

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 04:09 AM (NHMTR)

5 Portmanteau of flounce and shuffle, I think.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 30, 2024 04:10 AM (BLOW1)

6 I have learned a new word!

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 04:15 AM (NHMTR)

7
In space no one can hear you scream for more storage.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 04:22 AM (RKVpM)

8 The AP itself will continue with its current function of providing propaganda for backroom deals and political favours rather than cash.

Au contraire.

"We believe there is a gap in the U.S. market, in the consumer arena, for people who want independent, fact-based, non-partisan news, and that’s the role that the AP plays in the ecosystem," [CEO] Veerasingham said.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 30, 2024 04:26 AM (ejWln)

9 Pink bunny slippers would nicely accent a fluffle, I would think.

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 04:43 AM (NHMTR)

10 Good morning overnighters and early risers.

Posted by: Tuna at June 30, 2024 04:52 AM (oaGWv)

11 An experiment in Denver doled out varying levels of UBI

10 month experiment. 9.2MM spent.
7MM to participants
2MM to run program
Nets estimated 589k savings in public spending.

Sounds kinda pricey.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 30, 2024 05:01 AM (ejWln)

12 Evening and morning to all the AoSHQ satellites in space and beyond! (Well, you know, since we're talking about data centers in space, and all . . .)

I'm up half an hour earlier than I intended, thanks to an energetic, bed-leaping black cat who, after an incident yesterday afternoon, is now known far and wide as Goblet Killer. A little milk has gone into the coffee this morning. Funny, but for years I never put milk or cream in my coffee; now I often do. Never say people don't change.

Planning to go work out in a little bit. Must resist the urge to look online to see the heat index, or I won't go.

How about your Saturday night/Sunday morning/Sunday evening?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 30, 2024 05:02 AM (omVj0)

13 Yesterday my Aldi had a pound of grass-fed beef (so said the package) for $3.99 instead of their usual $5.49, which around here is already a solid discount. I should have grabbed two instead of one.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 30, 2024 05:08 AM (omVj0)

14 Good morning! Cedar tongue and groove on the back patio ceiling (34'x8') is almost complete. Took the opportunity to replace the skinny cedar support beams the last owner had painted with new 6'x6' beams and reduce the number to open the sight lines between the patio seating areas and the pond. Gonna finish today and then do the front porch which is only a 10'x10' space. I think next week I'll be ready to start the construction on the patio bar/grill stand. Or just take a week or three off and chillax.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2024 05:16 AM (YRsIm)

15 Ya gotta love the Daily Mail, Bi-Done!

Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 05:19 AM (uRE6U)

16 I should get up, eventually

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 05:20 AM (fwDg9)

17 Hahahah, The Bi-Done! thing was a banner being pulled by a plane over a Hampton's fund raiser for Bribe'em.

The money spigot has been turned off.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 05:24 AM (uRE6U)

18
Biden is set to 'discuss a major decision with his family' as he retreats back to the safety of Camp David... while his campaign issues bizarre defense of the embattled president

Daily Mail headline.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 05:28 AM (RKVpM)

19 T-storms rolling through this morning. Supposed to be 20 degrees cooler today. Yesterday heat index hit 110.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 30, 2024 05:28 AM (ejWln)

20 But here’s the deal, there’s a lot of young women who are being raped by their – by their in-laws, by their – by their spouses, brothers and sisters, by – just – it’s just – it’s just ridiculous. And they can do nothing about it. - Joe Biden debate answer

If I'm reading this correctly, according to Joe Biden, what America needs most is unrestricted abortion because MAGA men just can't stop raping young women. This is unlike the saintly immigrants, who occasionally and most likely because of MAGA oppression, have been known to commit an occasional indiscretion. Joe Biden may have dementia, but what's even worse is he is willing to use rape and murder to smear innocent men who are inconvenient for him.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at June 30, 2024 05:34 AM (jyIl1)

21 The monsoon season began here in Las Cruces yesterday with a light rain that cooled the whole area down. The smell of rain and the creosote in the desert is a sublime treat except when you get sucked into an arroyo during a major downpour and drown.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at June 30, 2024 05:37 AM (jyIl1)

22
But here’s the deal, there’s a lot of young women who are being raped by their – by their in-laws, by their – by their spouses, brothers and sisters, by – just – it’s just – it’s just ridiculous. And they can do nothing about it. - Joe Biden debate answer

"He answered all the questions!"

-- Jill Biden, elder abuser extraordinaire

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 05:44 AM (RKVpM)

23
I suspect the raid on P Diddy's home was in order to collect some video footage of Kamala committing some sort of sex act in order to 'have the goods on her' in case Joe drops out or resigns.

There's no way state/deep state is going to allow her to be Precedent.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 05:51 AM (RKVpM)

24 Divide by Zero, What if they know she is only going to have a few months. They give her the 'historic first" , she gets trounced and is out of politics from then on. Could be a win for the dems.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 05:54 AM (uRE6U)

25 A devotional from Proverbs and about sleep. It contains some helpful advice, I think, and the devotional is appropriate for both Christins and Jews;

https://tinyurl.com/2u6cea2c

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 30, 2024 05:55 AM (lNl6Z)

26 What if they know she is only going to have a few months. They give her the 'historic first" , she gets trounced and is out of politics from then on. Could be a win for the dems.

That seems like a possibility IF she were to initiate the provisions of the 25th. The flip side of that coin is that would also mean that Barky would lose the opportunity to run a fourth term.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2024 05:59 AM (YRsIm)

27 “What is that to you?” Christian devotional based on a passage from the Gospel of John about not comparing our walk to that of others:

https://tinyurl.com/yskk5psz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 30, 2024 05:59 AM (lNl6Z)

28
Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 05:54 AM

I can only cringe in fear at the thought of the damage she could do in a few months.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 06:00 AM (RKVpM)

29
As said before here, Kamala has no real allies. Whatever group controlling her knows she does not work well with others, so sticking her in some basement and out of sight is the only viable option for her Peznitcy.

Posted by: Auspex at June 30, 2024 06:04 AM (j4U/Z)

30 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 06:05 AM (a1415)

31 Belatedly, I see that the Disclaimer is clickable!

Disclaimer: ~fluffles away~

"Karen Court: Reacting to Crazy People" (1:20:27)

The first Karen traps a cop's arm in her driver's side window!

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 06:06 AM (NHMTR)

32 Raise your hand if you believe that Joe Biden possesses a current and valid Drivers License from any State, or the District of Columbia.

Do you believe that Joe Biden is competent to drive a vehicle on public roads?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 06:06 AM (a1415)

33 15 Ya gotta love the Daily Mail, Bi-Done!
Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 05:19 AM (uRE6U)

; )

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 06:07 AM (NHMTR)

34
Obama certainly has the dirt on Biden and turned him into his personal puppet. Kamala I don't know about.

I guess it depends on the P Diddy video footage. Was she smoking crack and then got spit roasted - something like that?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 06:08 AM (RKVpM)

35 Caroline Glick seems to think that Mooch is going to be the choice.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 06:09 AM (uRE6U)

36 Mornin'

"We believe there is a gap in the U.S. market, in the consumer arena, for people who want independent, fact-based, non-partisan news, and that’s the role that the AP plays in the ecosystem," [CEO] Veerasingham said.

LOL!! This dude is funny.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at June 30, 2024 06:15 AM (sAmhv)

37 Happy Sunday

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 06:16 AM (ENQN6)

38 I had my '8 hour' night, so I've been home from work since 0200. Took a nap, and I'm going to church in a bit. The one I go to has an early service (0800).

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at June 30, 2024 06:17 AM (sAmhv)

39 Good morning Hordians.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 30, 2024 06:17 AM (3EWHs)

40 Datacenters in space.

I'm sure it looked good on paper.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 30, 2024 06:18 AM (sAmhv)

41
Mooch would be an insane choice but the people running things are crazy enough to try it.

Trump sentenced to jail next week, so the line will be a return to normalcy.

Posted by: Auspex at June 30, 2024 06:18 AM (j4U/Z)

42 Pete Bog, A glorious good morning to you.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 06:23 AM (uRE6U)

43 32 Raise your hand if you believe that Joe Biden possesses a current and valid Drivers License from any State, or the District of Columbia.

Do you believe that Joe Biden is competent to drive a vehicle on public roads?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

I'd like to see him drive down I-295, from Kenilworth to the National Harbor, during rush hour.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 30, 2024 06:24 AM (sAmhv)

44
I'd like to see Biden drive across the remains of the Francis Scott Key bridge.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 06:26 AM (RKVpM)

45 Good morning Ben Had.

Bidenndriving. Come on man! He’s got a vette. Practically drives itself.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 30, 2024 06:29 AM (3EWHs)

46 I suppose Big Mike is an option but he's got a good thing going. Why would he step into that and take on the heat when he can just continue coasting and grifting? Besides, the next guy in office is gonna have to deal with some extraordinary economic conditions and likely some kind of conflict.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2024 06:30 AM (YRsIm)

47 Joe was blaming families for raping their young women.

Hey Joe, not everyone is like you.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 30, 2024 06:31 AM (VuZH8)

48 CrotchetyOldJarhead, I don't think they care so much about the after as that they win. No one on their bench has better name recognition. Whitmer probably doesn't ring any bells in South Carolina.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 06:35 AM (uRE6U)

49 >>ASCEND's space-based data storage facilities would benefit from "infinite energy" captured from the sun and orbit at an altitude of around 1,400 kilometers (869.9 miles).

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU'D LITERALLY BE SAVING TO THE CLOUDS.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at June 30, 2024 06:36 AM (cCVOS)

50 mornin yall. I see John Deere is moving manufacturing to Mexico. Another grim milestone for the Biden administration.

Posted by: fd at June 30, 2024 06:36 AM (vFG9F)

51 Meanwhile, LA seems to have had another mostly peaceful street festival the other night.

Either that or Biden was driving around over there.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9yawhh

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 06:38 AM (a1415)

52 Good morning, all!

>>Mooch would be an insane choice but the people running things are crazy enough to try it.

Man, she haaaates DC. Has she and TFG cohabitated since 2016?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2024 06:39 AM (cCVOS)

53 52: I'm not sure anybody who lives in DC, loves it.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 30, 2024 06:40 AM (sAmhv)

54 Remember when the Left was telling us that Ronald Reagan was suffering from Alzheimers, and wasn't qualified to serve as President?

Good times...

Good times..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 06:41 AM (a1415)

55 'Sup y'all?

Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2024 06:42 AM (uCfKO)

56 IMHO, I wish the debate were later. Joe will be out by the end of the week. The Dems have time to find someone young and attractive.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at June 30, 2024 06:43 AM (VuZH8)

57 Conceptually, orbiting data centers is a pretty nifty science fiction idea come to life. Peter F. Hamilton's uses this idea as background in his Commonwealth series of books. Eventually, AI is built out there as a stepping stone to get us to the stars.

Of course, as Pixy points out, the engineering challenges are pretty significant.

What will the signal lag will be like between the datacenters and the ground-based relays that connect to them?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 30, 2024 06:44 AM (BpYfr)

58 There is so much in play right now. Communists thrive on chaos to get themselves in place. I think the best thing that could happen is Bai-den is forced to remain on the ballot with Kameltoe as it will be the most difficult scenario for them to claim they 'won' again.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2024 06:44 AM (YRsIm)

59 Muldoon!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 06:44 AM (a1415)

60 >>Remember when the Left was telling us that Ronald Reagan was suffering from Alzheimers, and wasn't qualified to serve as President?

I remember Dr. Bandy Lee, Yale professor. yammering on about Trump and the 25th Amendment. She even published a book of essays by experts all concluding he was not mentally competent to hold office.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2024 06:44 AM (cCVOS)

61 g'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at June 30, 2024 06:45 AM (tQtDb)

62 Fun story of the day is 29 year old Florida man tries stealing a truck and gets his ass kicked by 66 year old owner, and arrested. County sheriff then posts on social media "mess around and find out" along with mugshot and judos to the truck owner.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 30, 2024 06:47 AM (2MUet)

63 I would find it charming if big Mike actually became president, and through fecklessness and disinterest inadvertently advanced the cause of liberty by being too aloof to give a damn about actively wrecking the country.

Go ahead, spend all day on TV and podcasts painting everything pride colored and bitching about wypipo, if it means you aren't actually *doing* anything and this country can actually maybe possibly start to run on all cylinders while you're not looking.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 30, 2024 06:49 AM (BAEGB)

64 Would Obama's ego allow his wife to take the center stage?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2024 06:50 AM (cCVOS)

65 Moochelle would be just another puppet with Wagyu stuck in her teeth.

Posted by: fd at June 30, 2024 06:51 AM (vFG9F)

66 Would Obama's ego allow his wife to take the center stage?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2024 06:50 AM (cCVOS)

It will when his squeakhole says "shut up and let the wookie win!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 30, 2024 06:51 AM (BAEGB)

67 I am reminded of Bob Dole. His wife stood by and supported his run for the presidency.
When she decided to make a run for it a few years later, Bob Dole dutifully endorsed. . . his Senate pal, John McCain.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2024 06:52 AM (cCVOS)

68 Ya know, if only there were a real opposition party we could make some yuge gainz! Alas, we're stuck with the GoPe. I'd really like to see PDTS go scorched earth.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2024 06:53 AM (YRsIm)

69 Orbital data centres?

Operation British with even more bits when those Polyfill chads hack the security.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2024 06:54 AM (6j1P+)

70 Good morning morons

If the results in the control group are indistinguishable from the results in the trial group, the medicine had no effect.
====
Then just like HeadStart, let's waste billions on the feelz!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 06:55 AM (hLUfO)

71 Great. Another $130B for tranny surgeries for kids. And Marxist PACs.

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Buffett said that he intends for nearly all of his immense fortune to be put into a charitable trust that will be used to help the less fortunate.

“It should be used to help the people that haven’t been as lucky as we have been,” Mr. Buffett told the outlet.

His three children—Howard, Susan, and Peter Buffett—will manage the trust, he said. In order for a donation to be made, all three will have to be in agreement on the cause, he said.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2024 06:56 AM (evvc2)

72 Muldoon!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

********

Why are you yelling at me? I haven't had coffee yet. I just got up to let the puppy out and provide overwatch for coyotes. I saw the light on here and stumbled in.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2024 06:56 AM (uCfKO)

73 6/25

Will Trump chicken out of the presidential debate? Probably. He's a Grade-A coward.
Until we see him set foot on the debate stage Thursday night in Atlanta, there’s a strong chance the former president chickens out and runs to the safety of a rally.
Rex Huppke

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 06:56 AM (ENQN6)

74 I would like to know how they figure a "control group" is the one where you only do the thing you're testing for a little bit....

Shouldn't the control group have been subjects who recieved $0 UBI and were not even aware what the study was even about?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 30, 2024 06:57 AM (BAEGB)

75 Biden and Kammy will "win" in a landslide and we will all bow down to our Dog King.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2024 06:58 AM (evvc2)

76 ha

@greggutfeld
·
Follow
remember: the media democrat complex is reacting in horror over joe's condition not because they saw it -

it's because you saw it.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 06:59 AM (ENQN6)

77 Dateline 2064: NASA opens first Senior Assisted Living facility on the ISS to house astronauts living there since not being stranded in 2024.

Posted by: Headlines we expect to see at June 30, 2024 06:59 AM (vFG9F)

78 " I'd really like to see PDTS go scorched earth."

'Today I settled all the family business'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 06:59 AM (a1415)

79 Shouldn't the control group have been subjects who recieved $0 UBI and were not even aware what the study was even about?

Yes. But also, none of them died from Covid during the study period. So UBI is proven to save lives.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2024 06:59 AM (evvc2)

80 How much of the "astronauts are stranded" is those two saying "we aren't getting in that thing" and Boing saying "We'll see about that"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2024 07:01 AM (evvc2)

81 "How much of the "astronauts are stranded" is those two saying "we aren't getting in that thing" and Boing saying "We'll see about that""

If it's Boeing, we're not going..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:02 AM (a1415)

82 I like the UBI that is baked into the Fair Tax.

It assumes that there is a tax on every retail item. To make sure the tax is not regressive there is a monthly stipend sent to all head of households equal to the family size.
This basically negates the national tax for the poor and at the same time encourages work as earning extra on top of the stipend (prebate) is not punished.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 07:03 AM (ENQN6)

83 "Yes. But also, none of them died from Covid during the study period. So UBI is proven to save lives."

Using that logic, being driven at night by Ted Kennedy in an Oldsmobile saves lives.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:04 AM (a1415)

84 I suspect the UBI study in Denver reported the results at the 10 month mark because by the end of the one year period all three groups had spent every penny on recreational pot and were living back on the street.

Just a wild guess.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2024 07:04 AM (uCfKO)

85 I wonder if the ISS crew has given the Boeing astronauts all the shit jobs on the space station

clean the space toilets, etc

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 07:05 AM (/7KEl)

86 "clean the space toilets, etc"

Clean the gutters..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:06 AM (a1415)

87 "I wonder if the ISS crew has given the Boeing astronauts all the shit jobs on the space station

clean the space toilets, etc
Posted by: Don Black"

They were supposed to clean the windows but could only do the insides.

Posted by: fd at June 30, 2024 07:07 AM (vFG9F)

88 Has SpaceX begun prepping a rescue launch, I wonder

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 30, 2024 07:08 AM (6TbuC)

89 I would be ok with a national 10% income tax with a $100k standard deduction and nothing else.

1040EZ: how much did you make _____
Subtract 100,000. ______
Multiply by 0.1. _______
If less than 0 stop
If more than 0, pay up.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2024 07:08 AM (evvc2)

90 "clean the space toilets, etc"

Clean the gutters..

********

Scoop up the space dog poop.

"Astr!!! Not on the soace carpet! Bad dog!"

Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2024 07:09 AM (uCfKO)

91 You knew it was coming.

https://tinyurl.com/3dhkzemv

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:09 AM (a1415)

92 Open the pod bay door, HAL.

Posted by: Astro at June 30, 2024 07:10 AM (uCfKO)

93 "I wonder if the ISS crew has given the Boeing astronauts all the shit jobs on the space station

clean the space toilets, etc
Posted by: Don Black"
---
Someone has to go outside and scrape the mynocks off the hull.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 30, 2024 07:10 AM (BpYfr)

94 I can't do that, Astro...until you finish your 'business'

Posted by: HAL at June 30, 2024 07:11 AM (uCfKO)

95 91 You knew it was coming.

https://tinyurl.com/3dhkzemv
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:09 AM (a1415)

some wheres north of 5 cuts. Longest sentence is a little over 10 seconds.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 07:13 AM (ENQN6)

96 After 5:00 local, time to start the coffee.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2024 07:14 AM (uCfKO)

97 I'd be OK with 0 income tax and a national sales tax of 3% invoked by an amendment that says the congress shall produce a budget based on the previous year's collections and failing to produce that, the entire congress would be shit canned and the government would cease to operate.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2024 07:15 AM (YRsIm)

98 Backlash grows after Prince Harry wins award set up to honour war hero

https://mol.im/a/13584099

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #01 at June 30, 2024 07:17 AM (qfLjt)

99 Morning again, all,

Back from my workout, showered and fed, and with the drapes open to see the dreary morning light filtered through thick humid air. Little chance of rain today; high of 95, probably.

I have Seasonal Affective Disorder in reverse.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 30, 2024 07:18 AM (omVj0)

100
You knew it was coming.

I didn't watch any of the debate, but those cuts are brutal.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 07:19 AM (RKVpM)

101 Ponce Harry hasn't done shit to deserve any award

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 07:19 AM (/7KEl)

102 Powerline posted this outstanding Biden debate clip

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/
1806658273623322832

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 30, 2024 07:20 AM (8LPpl)

103 You want a 3% sales tax
You would settle for a 10% flat tax
You will get an increase to the top marginal rate to 45%.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2024 07:21 AM (evvc2)

104 18 1512 Section 1

(1)Whoever kills or attempts to kill another person, with intent to—
(A)prevent the attendance
(B)prevent the production
(C)prevent the communication

So many of the J6ers were charged with the seconds part of the law while the first part about EVIDENCE was ignored. The law is about EVIDENCE not obstruction.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 07:21 AM (ENQN6)

105 GOP: They wanted an increase to 55%. We cut taxes 10%!!!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2024 07:21 AM (evvc2)

106 Backlash grows after Prince Harry wins award set up to honour war hero

********

I tried telling you people that the Miss Maryland contest was rigged!!

Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2024 07:22 AM (uCfKO)

107 "Powerline posted this outstanding Biden debate clip "

Sadly, even she makes more sense than Biden.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:23 AM (a1415)

108 "I tried telling you people that the Miss Maryland contest was rigged!!"

What!

Everyone knows that the best woman for a job is a man.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:24 AM (a1415)

109 I might go along with Michelle O. as POTUS if just to see Barack try to grow arugula in the White House garden.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2024 07:26 AM (uCfKO)

110 102 Powerline posted this outstanding Biden debate clip

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/
1806658273623322832
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 30, 2024 07:20 AM (8LPpl)

hahahahaha

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 07:26 AM (NHMTR)

111
The world would be a better place if we'd take the recommendations of beauty contest contestants to heart.

Posted by: Karen CheChe at June 30, 2024 07:27 AM (RKVpM)

112 78 " I'd really like to see PDTS go scorched earth."

'Today I settled all the family business'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 06:59 AM (a1415)
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I love that movie. That phrase is succinct. I adore that part of the movie, I guess I do like revenge against bad people with power. There are some memorable lines in the book and movie, some have became part of the language such as "an offer he can't/couldn't refuse"

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #02 at June 30, 2024 07:29 AM (qfLjt)

113 109 I might go along with Michelle O. as POTUS if just to see Barack try to grow arugula in the White House garden.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2024 07:26 AM (uCfKO)

The Obamas have so many backdoor deals, payola scams, and money laundering schemes it would be impossible for for any agency to share any secrets with them.

I bet they even plan to march in their SS teams to be buried with them at the monument in Shitcago like the pharaohs.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 07:31 AM (ENQN6)

114
There are some memorable lines in the book and movie, some have became part of the language such as "an offer he can't/couldn't refuse"

Hated that movie.

:: blub blub blub ::

Posted by: Luca Brasi at June 30, 2024 07:32 AM (RKVpM)

115 The Netherlands is expected to pay billions of pounds in compensation to taxpayers after a divisive levy on investments and second homes was shot down by the Dutch Supreme Court.

On 6 June, the court ruled that the country’s wealth tax went against the European Convention on Human Rights because it forced savers and investors to pay tax on income they had not earned.

NOTE: This will be tried here in the next time (D) has Pres House and Sen.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 07:33 AM (ENQN6)

116 OK, it's been fun. I'm going back to bed.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2024 07:34 AM (uCfKO)

117
I punched in 'sleeps' in DDG and it recommended 'sleeps with the fishes' automagically.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 07:34 AM (RKVpM)

118 Damn, bug season here in Arkansas is in full swing. Spiders, some other crawling thing, and most annoying is a variety of cockroach that starts life out in the grass and then comes inside to cool off. Neighbor and I are going to buy some barrier spray and do the perimeter of the building. I doubt if it will work, most of that stuff is so weak due to California it might kill you laws.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 30, 2024 07:35 AM (V5eKu)

119 Pleased to report Boy F. has won gold medals in shot put and 100m at state Special Olympics. He is not in it for the glory though. There was a huge dance last night.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 07:37 AM (hLUfO)

120 There are some memorable lines in the book and movie, some have became part of the language such as "an offer he can't/couldn't refuse"
Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #02 at June 30, 2024 07:29 AM (qfLjt)
===
"Don't Ever Go Against the Family"
'Don't Ask About My Business"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 07:40 AM (hLUfO)

121 SF
well done

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 07:41 AM (/7KEl)

122 Boy F has something of greater value than glory.

Posted by: Eromero at June 30, 2024 07:42 AM (LHPAg)

123 Congratulations to Boy F.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2024 07:43 AM (uRE6U)

124 I saw this autistic dude chatting up this Down syndrome girl and it was so sweet and cute and innocent. They would chat for a bit, then he would run around and flap for a few seconds, then go back to chatting her up.

"Are you going to the dance?"
"Yes, are you going?"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 07:47 AM (hLUfO)

125 Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 07:37 AM (hLUfO)

That's exciting! How wonderful for him as well as his pleased parents. Thanks for letting us know. I was wondering how it went for him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 30, 2024 07:47 AM (oUxZc)

126 Thanks morons it is a blast being here

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 07:48 AM (hLUfO)

127 SF, Boy F..

Outstanding.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:48 AM (a1415)

128 Tiny picturesque town breaks out in wild civil war as NIMBY battle escalates into 'terrorism' with woman sprayed with weed killer, driver trying to mow down a pedestrian and even the BOMB squad being called in

https://mol.im/a/13584401

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My solutions?
1. Hold a referendum.
2. Use 'Mah Democracy' and go with the majority.

Seems to me this is anothr Global Warming/Environmentalism project. What gives it away is the 'non-profit' and NGO smell about it.
Bringing in more transient people than the local population is never a good idea. --- say small college towns everywhere.

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #03 at June 30, 2024 07:49 AM (qfLjt)

129 I would like to report that I am glad to have a day off today and can go visit another church and not have to be responsible for anything..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 30, 2024 07:49 AM (oUxZc)

130 Last week is going to go down as one of the most consequential weeks in modern US history.

Were it not for Biden's complete implosion which completely altered both the presidential election and a number of down ballot races not to mention did mortal damage to the reputations of both the Democrat Party and the media, the decisions in Fischer and Chevron would have been enormous stories in their own right.

Another great movie line. Never stop fighting until the fight is done. Here endeth the lesson.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 07:49 AM (LkLld)

131 ...the decisions in Fischer and Chevron would have been enormous stories in their own right.
...
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 07:49 AM (LkLld)
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Having become accustomed to seeing court decisions routinely ignored, I'm not as sanguine.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 07:52 AM (hLUfO)

132 >not to mention did mortal damage to the reputations of both the Democrat Party and the media,

each will declare the other to be in robust good health

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 07:53 AM (/7KEl)

133
I saw this autistic dude chatting up this Down syndrome girl and it was so sweet and cute and innocent. They would chat for a bit, then he would run around and flap for a few seconds, then go back to chatting her up.

"Are you going to the dance?"
"Yes, are you going?"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 07:47 AM

I was fishing last summer and I came across this bicycle which seemed to be powered but what made me stop and look was all the compartments for storing rod and tackle. The young man who owned it started talking and I don't think he stopped for the next 15 minutes. He talked about the bike, the jobs he's worked at, the job he's working at now... just about everything under the sun. I knew he was off a bit, but I didn't want to be rude. What made me laugh was somewhere toward the end when he told me how he really likes girls. He repeated it a couple times.

I guess I shouldn't have been surprised or amused.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 07:55 AM (RKVpM)

134 Sunlight is showing across the street -- which means the sun slams into my windows all afternoon. When I buy my house, either the main rooms where I spend my afternoons will face other than west, or the windows get tinted.

The ideal would be a house facing south on an east-west street. Less hot sun in summer, more sunlight coming in during the winter.

(Well, the *ideal* would be that setup in a drier, cooler climate.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 30, 2024 07:55 AM (omVj0)

135 >>each will declare the other to be in robust good health

Once you see how the magician does his tricks you can never unsee it.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 07:56 AM (LkLld)

136 "each will declare the other to be in robust good health"

They can, and will do that.

But the damage is inescapable.

Those fcuks lied directly and repeatedly to the American people.

And the debate removed any possibility of deniability of that fact.

It was an 'Emperor has no clothes' moment, heard round the world.

Unfortunately.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:56 AM (a1415)

137 Last week is going to go down as one of the most consequential weeks in modern US history.

Were it not for Biden's complete implosion which completely altered both the presidential election and a number of down ballot races not to mention did mortal damage to the reputations of both the Democrat Party and the media, the decisions in Fischer and Chevron would have been enormous stories in their own right. . . .

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024

***
Yes; I was in a hopeful mood all day Friday. Still kind of hopeful today.

It's going to be fascinating to watch what happens to the D party and its "leading lights."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 30, 2024 07:57 AM (omVj0)

138 I guess I shouldn't have been surprised or amused.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 07:55 AM (RKVpM)
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Yup, sounds like one of ours.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 30, 2024 07:58 AM (hLUfO)

139 I'd be OK with 0 income tax and a national sales tax of 3% invoked by an amendment that says the congress shall produce a budget based on the previous year's collections and failing to produce that, the entire congress would be shit canned and the government would cease to operate.

So you don't mind throwing chaos into the tax systems of all 50 states.

Besides, 3% wouldn't even pay for its own administration.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 07:58 AM (rHxhM)

140 I'm just going to point out that it was a bunch of fishermen who took down the administrative state.

Don't mess with fishermen.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 07:58 AM (LkLld)

141 Good Sunday morning, Horde!

Posted by: Ladyl at June 30, 2024 07:59 AM (+4oV5)

142 "When I buy my house, either the main rooms where I spend my afternoons will face other than west, or the windows get tinted. "

At the time when we bought this house, we didn't realize the orientation would have such an impact.

North facing front, but in the winter the sun really strikes the back half of the house, filling it with light and warmth. Perfect for the winter.

In the summer, the sun is mostly in the front of the house, while most family activity, and yard activity is in the back, which has far less sun.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:59 AM (a1415)

143 Last week is going to go down as one of the most consequential weeks in modern US history.

As opposed to July 11?

We still have Civil War 2.0, World War 3.0, Jail / [other-really-bad-thing] and complete economic crash in the bull pen.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:04 AM (rHxhM)

144
I'm just going to point out that it was a bunch of fishermen who took down the administrative state.

Don't mess with fishermen.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 07:58 AM

Some of the stuff they were up against was mind-boggling to me. So over the top insane all I can say is thank G-d the court got it right. Stuff like tag the vessels, control their speed, limit the catch, limit the area they could fish etc etc etc.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 08:04 AM (RKVpM)

145 136 Those fcuks lied directly and repeatedly to the American people.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 07:56 AM (a1415)

They did it for our own good.

*snark tag

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 08:05 AM (NHMTR)

146 In the summer, the sun is mostly in the front of the house, while most family activity, and yard activity is in the back, which has far less sun.

You live south of the Tropic of Cancer?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:05 AM (rHxhM)

147 Those fishermen were told they had to have a govt inspector on board at their own expense

that was their 'aw hell no' moment

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 08:06 AM (/7KEl)

148 Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 07:58 AM (LkLld)

Do you honestly think the bureaucrats are going to stop doing what they do because of the SC?

Posted by: dantesed at June 30, 2024 08:06 AM (Oy/m2)

149 “Normal people will likely tune out after page 30.”

Normal people will tune out after the 2nd line on page 1.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 08:06 AM (S6gqv)

150 >>Some of the stuff they were up against was mind-boggling to me. So over the top insane all I can say is thank G-d the court got it right. Stuff like tag the vessels, control their speed, limit the catch, limit the area they could fish etc etc etc.

And the cherry on top is that the feds were forcing the fishermen to pay the salaries of the nannies they demanded were put on their ships to enforce all of it.

No more tyranny by "experts". Should make cutting down the swamp one hell of a lot easier.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 08:07 AM (LkLld)

151 So you don't mind throwing chaos into the tax systems of all 50 states.

Besides, 3% wouldn't even pay for its own administration.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 07:58 AM (rHxhM)

Sadly it is more like 26 to 32% at the Federal Level. And it has zero effect on the state system as they would go about collecting taxes as they normally do. All retailer collect (or exempt) state and local taxes. Adding a 3rd or 4th item and remitting that to another account would be simple. And remember the Fair Tax is baked into the prices just a taxes are baked into prices today. So a nice 120 dollar fishing rod would still be around 120 as all of the income taxes baked into the retail price are exchanged for the Fair tax.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:07 AM (ENQN6)

152 I'm just going to point out that it was a bunch of fishermen who took down the administrative state.

Same was true two thousand years ago.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:07 AM (rHxhM)

153 "You live south of the Tropic of Cancer?"

Not that I know of.
Let me check.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:08 AM (a1415)

154 >>Do you honestly think the bureaucrats are going to stop doing what they do because of the SC?

Yes. There decision no longer carry the weight of law.

They can whine all they want but they can't enforce shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 08:09 AM (LkLld)

155
Sadly it is more like 26 to 32% at the Federal Level. And it has zero effect on the state system as they would go about collecting taxes as they normally do.

All but five states have an income tax based on the national income tax. They throw in their variations just because their tax people need to justify their own existence.

But you are still collecting, and more important, doing all of the accounting, paper-work and long term legal exposure for an income tax.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:10 AM (rHxhM)

156 I'm happy for the Chevron decision

now if we could do something about executive orders from a President

some Presidents like to issue orders about things the executive branch is not impowered to do by the Constitution

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 08:10 AM (/7KEl)

157 Their

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 08:11 AM (LkLld)

158 empowered

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 08:11 AM (/7KEl)

159 I have been all kinds of chatty this morning

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 08:11 AM (fwDg9)

160 Kamalalaladingdong -- I can never remember how many 'lalas' and 'ding dongs'. Drat it.

Thinking back we used to give the Presidency and the incumbent, a certain respect regardless of party. When did all the name calling and general disrespect start, was it with Nixon "Tricky Dick"? In other words, no surprise, the Party of Muh Democracy, THE DEMOCRATS?

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #04 at June 30, 2024 08:12 AM (qfLjt)

161 If had to game the Democrats Propaganda problem, I see no other option than at the convention Sundowner bails out and the Democrats start over as other conventions in history and delegates start voting over

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 08:13 AM (fwDg9)

162 Still watching the "Karen Court: Reacting to Crazy People" video (linked in Pixy's Disclaimer) and highly recommend it! My, that Pippa has a potty mouth.

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 08:14 AM (NHMTR)

163 From ABC, of all places:

Multiple committee members on the call, most granted anonymity to talk about the private discussion, described feeling like they were being gaslighted — that they were being asked to ignore the dire nature of the party’s predicament. The call, they said, may have worsened a widespread sense of panic among elected officials, donors and other stakeholders.

Instead, the people said, Harrison offered what they described as a rosy assessment of Biden's path forward. The chat function was disabled and there were no questions allowed.

https://tinyurl.com/3kmv42ny

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 30, 2024 08:14 AM (Dm8we)

164 But you are still collecting, and more important, doing all of the accounting, paper-work and long term legal exposure for an income tax.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:10 AM (rHxhM)

Presently Floor and Décor (I go there for work) has accounting to pay employees and collect income taxes as well as accounting to collect and pay sales taxes.
I would venture that there would be a savings to having just a simple department to pay workers and a more complex department (that already exist) to collect taxes.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:15 AM (ENQN6)

165 I think it started with the 60s antiwar movement

Hey hey LBJ
how many kids did you kill today?

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 08:16 AM (/7KEl)

166 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at June 30, 2024 08:16 AM (dg+HA)

167 So which decision says they cannot have their own courts. I think that is very important.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:17 AM (ENQN6)

168 165 I think it started with the 60s antiwar movement

Hey hey LBJ
how many kids did you kill today?
Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 08:16 AM (/7KEl)

Adams was going to turn the country over to the Brits.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:18 AM (ENQN6)

169 156 I'm happy for the Chevron decision

now if we could do something about executive orders from a President

some Presidents like to issue orders about things the executive branch is not impowered to do by the Constitution

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 08:10 AM (/7KEl)
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Well first we'd have to resolve partisan judges and the DOJ. Then we have to fix (unpower) Federal judges from striking down executive orders and also referendums, etc. as that amounts to giving judges executive powers -- see Hawaiian Judges. One judge makes law for the whole USA?

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #05 at June 30, 2024 08:18 AM (qfLjt)

170 No more tyranny by "experts". Should make cutting down the swamp one hell of a lot easier.

Honestly, this is the only decision I have heard from the courts in my life time that has the potential for huge positive consequences. Bigger than Dobbs.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:18 AM (rHxhM)

171 now if we could do something about executive orders from a President

some Presidents like to issue orders about things the executive branch is not impowered to do by the Constitution
Posted by: Don Black
+++
Funny how when Trump was president there always seemed to be a Hawaiian judge out there somewhere who would block those executive orders.
With Biden that almost never happens.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 30, 2024 08:19 AM (Lo97M)

172 > The ideal would be a house facing south on an east-west street. Less hot sun in summer, more sunlight coming in during the winter.
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Our house faces due north. I've checked it with a compass. It's almost exact. All the other houses on this road, which more or less runs east-west are aligned with it. Ours is off by about 15 degrees. It's also about 1/4 mile off the road.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 30, 2024 08:19 AM (Q4IgG)

173 Trumps campaign needs to start pushing the fact that Biden is useless unless he's jacked up on drugs.

Doper Joe the Adderall President.

Joe and Hunter doing lines off the Resolute desk.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 08:20 AM (QB+5g)

174 some Presidents like to issue orders about things the executive branch is not impowered to do by the Constitution

That is actually about 95% of the entire USG. Chevron, on paper, removes a huge amount, but then again, its just on paper and subject to Leftist re-interpreation or the usual Regulatory Branch's Nelsonian Indifference.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:20 AM (rHxhM)

175 Though filled my birdbath yesterday it self filled again overnight

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 08:21 AM (fwDg9)

176 🙏 for JT wherever you are

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 08:22 AM (fwDg9)

177 I learned a new marketing term yesterday.

'Vegan Leather'

Then I started reading up on what it is.

One of the biggest BS marketing terms I've seen in modern times.

Just call it 'Beyond Leather'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:22 AM (a1415)

178 >>Honestly, this is the only decision I have heard from the courts in my life time that has the potential for huge positive consequences. Bigger than Dobbs.

It really is enormous. The two most damaging things that happened to the left and their control of the federal government were losing the Supreme Court and Chevron. They used both for decades to implement laws they could never get through Congress.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 08:23 AM (LkLld)

179 I'm punching holes in your orbiting data center.

Posted by: Micro Meteorite at June 30, 2024 08:23 AM (6gW4D)

180 Justice Sotomayor on Chevron

Against this backdrop, our coequal branches will be surprised to learn that the rule they thought long settled, and which remained unchallenged for half a century, is one that, according to the majority and the concurrence, my dissent just announced today. Unfortunately, that mistaken view means that the constitutionality of hundreds of statutes may now be in peril, and dozens of agencies could be stripped of their power to enforce laws enacted by Congress.

NO: The statues are laws. What is in questions is how do to bring those violation to court and to what court?

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:24 AM (ENQN6)

181
Barry has declared "Trust me, everybody can have a bad debate." So the issue is settled. What we have to do now is focus on the many lies Trump tells.

Posted by: Auspex at June 30, 2024 08:24 AM (j4U/Z)

182
They used both for decades to implement laws they could never get through Congress.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 08:23 AM

Any thoughts on what effect this could have on the auto industry and the mandated fuel economy nonsense?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 08:25 AM (RKVpM)

183 The problem with Vegan leather is the vegans are so skinny you have to skin a bunch of them to get any leather.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 08:25 AM (QB+5g)

184 > Just call it 'Beyond Leather'.
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"Pleather" aka fake leather

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 30, 2024 08:25 AM (Q4IgG)

185 I am building a house with 4 south-facing walls.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:25 AM (ENQN6)

186 184 > Just call it 'Beyond Leather'.
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"Pleather" aka fake leather
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 30, 2024 08:25 AM (Q4IgG)

Save the Naugas!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:26 AM (ENQN6)

187 Our house faces due north.

What does one mean by "faces"?

For example, a friend, when they had the manufactured home put in on a lake property, the on-site crew oriented it such where it "faced" the road and my friends caught the error and had it "facing" the lake.

Their neighbor similarly has a home oriented between the road and the lake and they don't even have a "front door", the road/visitor access is through a door opening to the car port where the delivery folks must wander through yard tools and potted plants to drop something at a door.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:26 AM (rHxhM)

188 >Unfortunately, that mistaken view means that the constitutionality of hundreds of statutes may now be in peril, and dozens of agencies could be stripped of their power to enforce laws enacted by Congress.

wow
she really misses the whole point, huh

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 08:26 AM (/7KEl)

189 "I am building a house with 4 south-facing walls."

At least you won't need any A/C.

Just watch out for those big white bears.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:26 AM (a1415)

190 I'm punching holes in your orbiting data center.
Posted by: Micro Meteorite at June 30, 2024 08:23 AM (6gW4D)
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Hmmm. What if we put the orbiting data center in a fully armed and armored battle station?

With fighter squadrons and capital ships for extra protection. Perhaps equipped with a giant superlaser to deal with pesky micrometeorites, rogue asteroids, and the occasional alien fleet.

We could call it a "Death Star." Unless that name is already in use...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 30, 2024 08:27 AM (BpYfr)

191 My driveway slopes north, gets little sun in winter so doesn't melt on its own well

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 08:27 AM (fwDg9)

192 Since I didn't see the debate, but did Biden make some comment about Trump putting immigrants in cages ?

It was Obama who built those cages, no?

Posted by: dantesed at June 30, 2024 08:27 AM (Oy/m2)

193 NO: The statues are laws. What is in questions is how do to bring those violation to court and to what court?
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:24 AM (ENQN6)

Shut up, they barked.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 30, 2024 08:28 AM (qZEuM)

194 "wow
she really misses the whole point, huh"

There are those who have suggested that she really isn't all that smart.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:28 AM (a1415)

195 I am building a house with 4 south-facing walls.

Y'all are just uninspired.

Build your house on top of the platform in the locomotive roundhouse yard. Orient the "face" of the home like a sundial.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:28 AM (rHxhM)

196 hey lady

when the executive branch makes 'rules' , it is legislating- and that violates separation of powers doctrine

that was the nut of the case, you bloviating buffoon

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 08:29 AM (/7KEl)

197 The Dem convention can do nothing - Dems are going to name their nominee in about 3 weeks on some kind of big zoom call of delegates. They are doing this because of the Ohio ballot laws. Once that is done, the nominee is locked in.
And they waited to long - the nominee now has to be either Biden or Kamala. There’s no other viable candidates with consensus support.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 08:30 AM (S6gqv)

198 >>Any thoughts on what effect this could have on the auto industry and the mandated fuel economy nonsense?

I haven't give any specific decision much thought. There are so many dominos that could fall it's pretty mind boggling.

I'm just thrilled that going forward the rules the feds drop on us won't be written by some nameless drone in a cube at the EPA.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 08:31 AM (LkLld)

199 Hmmm. What if we put the orbiting data center in a fully armed and armored battle station?

I'm trying to imagine the insurance claim paperwork when your property ends up being the de-orbited data center's ad hoc LZ.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:31 AM (rHxhM)

200 They used both for decades to implement laws they could never get through Congress.

Posted by: JackStraw
_____________

They used it defensively too. My state implemented a work requirement for Medicaid several years ago under Trump, and it was approved by the Secretary of HHS. Since that decision was made in DC, it had to be litigated in the DC Circuit Court, and there of course was no Chevron deference in the outcome.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 30, 2024 08:31 AM (Dm8we)

201 Taking delivery of the Zero Turn mower, it's somewhat apropos that it's rainy and sh**ty today.

But tomorrow, around mid-day, the lawn is getting a trim.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 30, 2024 08:32 AM (XV/Pl)

202 198 >>Any thoughts on what effect this could have on the auto industry and the mandated fuel economy nonsense?

I haven't give any specific decision much thought. There are so many dominos that could fall it's pretty mind boggling.

I'm just thrilled that going forward the rules the feds drop on us won't be written by some nameless drone in a cube at the EPA.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 08:31 AM (LkLld)

Stellanis (Dodge) spent about 200 Mil a year keeping the HEMI.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:33 AM (ENQN6)

203 It’s astounding how many are so upset about the Regulatory State being trimmed back just a little bit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 08:33 AM (S6gqv)

204 The biggest problem with an orbital data center is heat rejection. Without flowing air or water the heat has to be radiated into space and there's no real practical way of doing this other than giant flat panels you have to keep out of the sun.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 08:33 AM (QB+5g)

205 ASCEND's space-based data storage facilities would benefit from "infinite energy" captured from the sun and orbit at an altitude of around 1,400 kilometers (869.9 miles).
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This illustrates perfectly the mathematical ignorance of the younger set.
1400 km is already a rounded number so = 870 miles, and just in case the writer missed that, it does say 'around 1400 km'.

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #06 at June 30, 2024 08:34 AM (qfLjt)

206 "and there's no real practical way of doing this other than giant flat panels you have to keep out of the sun."

Can we get Lizzo into orbit, and just put it in her shadow?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:34 AM (a1415)

207 I'm just thrilled that going forward the rules the feds drop on us won't be written by some nameless drone in a cube at the EPA.

Actually, this is a windfall for 535 Congress Critters and their staffers who now get to field ALL of the lobbyists who used to manipulate faceless activist bureaucrats.

Losers are the Cabinet members who used to receive all of the lobbying grift and power associated with the previous held ability to dictate policy without any real opposition.

I'm looking at Granholm who decided that you can't have gas powered anything.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:35 AM (rHxhM)

208 Hmmm. What if we put the orbiting data center in a fully armed and armored battle station?

With fighter squadrons and capital ships for extra protection. Perhaps equipped with a giant superlaser to deal with pesky micrometeorites, rogue asteroids, and the occasional alien fleet.

We could call it a "Death Star." Unless that name is already in use...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 30, 2024 08:27 AM (BpYfr)

I've checked. That name was used, but it was a long time ago in a place far, far away. It's available here.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 30, 2024 08:35 AM (6gW4D)

209 Has anyone taken the car keys away from Joe yet?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:35 AM (a1415)

210 @203

>>It’s astounding how many are so upset about the Regulatory State being trimmed back just a little bit.

I would think congress would be over the moon as now there is a brand spanking avenue of graft and corruption that has been opened to them.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 30, 2024 08:35 AM (XV/Pl)

211 And they waited to long - the nominee now has to be either Biden or Kamala. There’s no other viable candidates with consensus support.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 08:30 AM (S6gqv)

I think that without a house falling on Joe that GA NV and WI he is locked in.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:36 AM (ENQN6)

212 Biff. That abc article was something. Short intro on how those that called in couldn't really participate and than many, many words on how Thursday was an off night for mush head. They can wish and hope that the 48 million viewers saw the same from PDT, however that just didn't happen. The delusions in the bribe'em camp are strong.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 08:37 AM (2NHgQ)

213 "It's going to be fascinating to watch what happens to the D party and its 'leading lights.'"

Ted Cruz has gone on record that they're going to dump Joe and replace him with ... [fanfare] Michelle Obama! After all, the D's have done that before - when George Wallace was term-limited out of the governorship of Alabama, he ran his wife Lurleen as a substitute Wallace, and she won. Given that the D's are getting back to their racist roots with a vengeance, no reason not to revive that tradition as well.

Posted by: Nemo at June 30, 2024 08:37 AM (S6ArX)

214 This illustrates perfectly the mathematical ignorance of the younger set.
1400 km is already a rounded number so = 870 miles, and just in case the writer missed that, it does say 'around 1400 km'.

I'm sure the deep analysis part went something like this:

"Siri, how many miles is in fourteen hundred kilometers?"

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:37 AM (rHxhM)

215 I suspect the real reason they’re talking about an orbital data center is that such things require huge amounts of electric power, and under Europe’s Green Schemes and NetZero nonsense, they’ve begun to figure that Europe will have no data centers at all, because they won’t have the power to run them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 08:37 AM (S6gqv)

216
"He answered all the questions!!!"
-- Jill Biden

Yeah, with lies bitch.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 08:39 AM (RKVpM)

217 The wonders and blessings of living in California.

https://tinyurl.com/5fv9pawr

How many little factoids can you spot that they might not have wanted you to realize?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:39 AM (a1415)

218 >Ted Cruz has gone on record that they're going to dump Joe and replace him with ... [fanfare] Michelle Obama!
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at which point China realizes that the US is no longer a serious country, and invades Taiwan

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 08:40 AM (/7KEl)

219 Is France having their elections today?

This could get interesting.

Posted by: dantesed at June 30, 2024 08:41 AM (Oy/m2)

220 China landed on the darks side of the moon...and brought some samples back Erf...I am concerned.

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 08:41 AM (V13WU)

221 "Rule 1: Never write a technical book for the money."

I co-authored a couple of books on Linux networking back in the 90s, and one of them actually made money - about $15,000, if I remember correctly, which back then was a godsend for my family, as we were walking a financial tightrope in those days. But no, as a rule, you write a book for the heft it gives to your CV. Also, if you *really* want to learn a subject, write about it.

Posted by: Nemo at June 30, 2024 08:42 AM (S6ArX)

222 ' at which point China realizes that the US is no longer a serious country, and invades ~~Taiwan~~ the US*'

* Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:42 AM (a1415)

223 Ted Cruz - I like him as my Senator, but he can’t help saying a lot of stupid clickbait things. He’s better than John Cornyn, who just collects the grift and never says nothin ‘bout nothin.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 08:42 AM (S6gqv)

224 Joe's condition was/is not secret. I think they waited this long with Joe in part to manage a disillusionment campaign similar to what they accomplished in 2020 with the steal.

It doesn't matter what you want, voters. We're in charge.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at June 30, 2024 08:42 AM (36sk4)

225 >>Actually, this is a windfall for 535 Congress Critters and their staffers who now get to field ALL of the lobbyists who used to manipulate faceless activist bureaucrats.

They might focus more on Congress but they have always been there.

Chris Murphy kind of gave the game away on Twitter after the decision. He complained that gutting Fischer was horrible because Congress routinely passed laws that were intentionally open ended so the bureaucracy could make the final interpretation on how things should work.

They outsourced their jobs because they could not get the legislation they wanted through Congress. That's how it's been going in DC for decades. Congress passes a broad and open ended piece of legislation and leaves it up to bureaucrats to apply their "expertise" to screw the American people. Completely without any oversight or consequences.

Yea, some will still try to screw us but they will have a much tougher road if they have to actually follow the Constitution and do their damn jobs.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 08:42 AM (LkLld)

226 I do not see why the googles and msft and amazon have not built a nice neat small nuke.

With the boring company you could put it underground so in case of an issue just pour it full of concrete.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:42 AM (ENQN6)

227 Imagine Michelle Obama as your wartime President-

she'll write a book about her struggle

Posted by: Don Black at June 30, 2024 08:43 AM (/7KEl)

228 "He answered all the questions!!!"
-- Jill Biden

Yeah, with lies bitch.

You do realize that this is how they talk:

• "The Election is About Decency"
• "I know how to tell the truth"
• "This is fight for either freedom or democracy"
• "He answered all of the questions".

Each and every statement requires you to eisegete meaning into the statement. They make no claim that THEY are the ones who are decent, telling the truth or fight for freedom or "democracy".

You are supposed to come to the wrong conclusions.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:43 AM (rHxhM)

229
China landed on the darks side of the moon...and brought some samples back Erf...I am concerned.

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 08:41 AM

I'm dubious, too. Everything they seem to be claiming defies physics.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 08:43 AM (RKVpM)

230 I'm also more and more leaning towards letting Trump win and then pulling the rug out from the whole thing. Full coordinated collapse within the government to get the party started in time for the communist rebuild for 2030.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at June 30, 2024 08:43 AM (36sk4)

231 "China landed on the darks side of the moon..."

They went at night?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:43 AM (a1415)

232 from Sun Tzu to Miles Vorkosigan, the #1 rule is "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at June 30, 2024 08:44 AM (tQtDb)

233 Yea, some will still try to screw us but they will have a much tougher road if they have to actually follow the Constitution and do their damn jobs.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 08:42 AM (LkLld)

I guarantee they will do their jobs to fuck over citizens.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:44 AM (ENQN6)

234 Whenever someone who is paid by the government talks about "democracy," they are talking about government.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at June 30, 2024 08:44 AM (36sk4)

235 197 The Dem convention can do nothing - Dems are going to name their nominee in about 3 weeks on some kind of big zoom call of delegates. They are doing this because of the Ohio ballot laws. Once that is done, the nominee is locked in.
And they waited to long - the nominee now has to be either Biden or Kamala. There’s no other viable candidates with consensus support.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 08:30 AM (S6gqv)

What if they decide they can't win Ohio, or don't need Ohio?

Posted by: davidt at June 30, 2024 08:44 AM (SYTee)

236 I do not see why the googles and msft and amazon have not built a nice neat small nuke.

===

tell you much about their capabilities , no? all they can do is build gossip platforms.

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 08:44 AM (V13WU)

237 With the boring company you could put it underground so in case of an issue just pour it full of concrete.

Why not use the tried and true Fukishima approach to deal with terminal operational issues - just flood it with water?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:45 AM (rHxhM)

238 hey! anybody can have one bad debate !

--Team Biden

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 08:45 AM (V13WU)

239 I think in Sundowner's rambling he did go with his meme Trump put people in cages.

As for my gaming , of course the best way for Sundowner is to stroke out mid October and then forced to bail out but stay in until then

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 08:45 AM (fwDg9)

240 I do not see why the googles and msft and amazon have not built a nice neat small nuke.

With the boring company you could put it underground so in case of an issue just pour it full of concrete.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:42 AM (ENQN6)

Call it Wildfire or something.

Posted by: Andromeda Strain at June 30, 2024 08:45 AM (6gW4D)

241 "Imagine Michelle Obama as your wartime President- "

The lead-up to war is basically a Dick-Bumping contest.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:45 AM (a1415)

242 How many little factoids can you spot that they might not have wanted you to realize?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:39 AM (a1415)

I liked where they said they actually had reduced the number of criminal street takeovers recently. Not eliminated, but apparently it’s not happening *every* night now, so they think they’re doing a Good Job.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 08:46 AM (S6gqv)

243 234 Whenever someone who is paid by the government talks about "democracy," they are talking about ~~government~~ CONTROL.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at June 30, 2024 08:44 AM (36sk4)

fixed it

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:46 AM (ENQN6)

244 Maybe as Ace said it's best for Sundowner to stay in as long as possible. He is a dead man candidate

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 08:46 AM (fwDg9)

245 More decanters should be deployed everywhere.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 30, 2024 08:46 AM (ogTiX)

246 "China landed on the darks side of the moon..."

Does this fall under "Photos or this didn't happen"?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:47 AM (rHxhM)

247 Whenever someone who is paid by the government talks about "democracy," they are talking about government CONTROL.

fixed it
Posted by: rhennigantx

-

That's what I said.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at June 30, 2024 08:47 AM (36sk4)

248 "Not eliminated, but apparently it’s not happening *every* night now, so they think they’re doing a Good Job."

And they answered ALL the questions, right Jill?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:48 AM (a1415)

249 22 "He answered all the questions!"
-- Jill Biden, elder abuser extraordinaire
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 05:44 AM (RKVpM)

Worse, she said, "Joe, you did such a great job! You answered every question!" Like you would say to a tiny tot: You cleaned your plate! You ate all your vegetables!

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 08:48 AM (NHMTR)

250 @230

>>I'm also more and more leaning towards letting Trump win and then pulling the rug out from the whole thing. Full coordinated collapse within the government to get the party started in time for the communist rebuild for 2030.

The Deep State/Uniparty is not going to let Trump win if they have any say in it, and they have a large say in it.

Look at their reaction to an outsider getting the keys to the castle, they systematically boxed him in, contained him as much as they could, brought the world to the verge of collapse and then successfully ejected him from office, they have since launched the largest lawfare and legal onslaught against a political figure we have ever seen.

They will Sic Semper Tyrannis him before they ever let him sit behind The Resolute Desk ever again.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 30, 2024 08:48 AM (XV/Pl)

251 > It’s astounding how many are so upset about the Regulatory State being trimmed back just a little bit.
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What is done, cannot be undone.

I doubt the existing regulations are going anywhere. Unless someone's willing to fork over time, money and resources to litigate them.

Better to just start ignoring them and make the bureaucrats that want to enforce them spend that time, money and resources.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 30, 2024 08:49 AM (Q4IgG)

252 The wonders and blessings of living in California.

https://tinyurl.com/5fv9pawr

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Wow. That's 3rd world stuff. I wonder if it's any coincedence that more than half of Californians no longer speak english at home?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at June 30, 2024 08:49 AM (36sk4)

253 "Does this fall under "Photos or this didn't happen"?"

It was dark.

They forgot to bring Flash Cubes.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:49 AM (a1415)

254
I liked where they said they actually had reduced the number of criminal street takeovers recently. Not eliminated, but apparently it’s not happening *every* night now, so they think they’re doing a Good Job.

And now we know why every single stock, weather/climate or any other mechanism that charts data over time has a way to select time spans and make snapshots.

You find your time-range that supports your narrative.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:49 AM (rHxhM)

255 Why outerspace?
Why not Canada. Its cold. Tons of energy.
Or Alaska. Alaska should be the center of AI.
Cold air.
Oil.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:49 AM (ENQN6)

256 Just like after the Hur report, the debate debacle will be ignored and poll numbers will move back to where they were.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 30, 2024 08:50 AM (ogTiX)

257 "Worse, she said, "Joe, you did such a great job! You answered every question!" Like you would say to a tiny tot: You cleaned your plate! You ate all your vegetables!"

This is why I have repeatedly asked someone to photoshop me a picture of Joe wearing an 'I Pooped Today!' tee-shirt.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:50 AM (a1415)

258 The Deep State/Uniparty is not going to let Trump win if they have any say in it, and they have a large say in it.

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I think it might be useful to them if they do. Blame Trump, blame MAGA, blame (R)s, and *their* footsoldiers will definitely want to start the dance after trying for eight years to get law abiding conservatives to even jaywalk.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at June 30, 2024 08:50 AM (36sk4)

259 And now we know why every single stock, weather/climate or any other mechanism that charts data over time has a way to select time spans and make snapshots.

You find your time-range that supports your narrative.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:49 AM (rHxhM)

Remove 19 YOs from being children and many gun deaths (around half) go away.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2024 08:51 AM (ENQN6)

260 They will Sic Semper Tyrannis him before they ever let him sit behind The Resolute Desk ever again.

Will they have to disassemble the Resolute Desk to get it through the prison cell door?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:51 AM (rHxhM)

261
What does one mean by "faces"?

For example, a friend, when they had the manufactured home put in on a lake property, the on-site crew oriented it such where it "faced" the road and my friends caught the error and had it "facing" the lake. . . .

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024

***
To me it means, the room in which I spend most of my time in the afternoon has windows that face in a given direction. Usually that's a "living" room. If the room faces west, that's bad on hot days, good on cold ones.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 30, 2024 08:52 AM (omVj0)

262 "You find your time-range that supports your narrative."

As Derek Hunter often says....You control the unit of measure, you control the narrative.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:52 AM (a1415)

263 "I Pooped Just Now" t shirt.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at June 30, 2024 08:53 AM (qZEuM)

264 The Dem convention can do nothing - Dems are going to name their nominee in about 3 weeks on some kind of big zoom call of delegates. They are doing this because of the Ohio ballot laws. Once that is done, the nominee is locked in.
And they waited to long - the nominee now has to be either Biden or Kamala. There’s no other viable candidates with consensus support.

The people running the party will weigh their choices. If they think they can run the cheat again (and they can), then Stinkfinger runs another basement campaign. If they decide he's a dead loss, they toss him for someone else; possibly, but not necessarily, Mooch.

Sure, the delegates will howl, but fuck them. They'll be told, "do you love Biden more than you hate Trump? Then shut the fuck up and get in line!"

It really is that simple.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 30, 2024 08:54 AM (Q0kLU)

265 "I Pooped Just Now" t shirt.

Fair

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:54 AM (a1415)

266 'Vegan Leather'

One of the biggest BS marketing terms I've seen in modern times.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:22 AM (a1415)

I haven't looked it up, but I assume it's made from oil. LOL

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 30, 2024 08:54 AM (OX9vb)

267 @258

>>I think it might be useful to them if they do.

I believe we are at a point where they just don't give a sh*t and they feel they have enough juice and power to muscle through any eventuality.

And besides, I truly believe the masterminds in control both here and around the world are truly evil and deranged, just as much as a Messianic Islamic Ayatollah wishing to bring upon the coming of the 12th Imam.

We're in for some serious sh*t, and it's not going to be pretty.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 30, 2024 08:55 AM (XV/Pl)

268 "I haven't looked it up, but I assume it's made from oil. LOL"

And plastics

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:55 AM (a1415)

269 >>Just like after the Hur report, the debate debacle will be ignored and poll numbers will move back to where they were.

Not a chance. This wasn't a bad night. This was the entire world seeing the leader of the free world has dementia.

If you are sitting in Moscow or Beijing you saw it too. It's not just about the election, we have 5 months of a dementia patient and a halfwit in charge.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 08:55 AM (LkLld)

270 Every and all tax reforms need a braking mechanism to prevent/hold the upward creep to zero. Remember the 1913 rate was something like 1% and temporary.

Posted by: Ciampino - Sun Titbits #07 at June 30, 2024 08:55 AM (qfLjt)

271 @260

>>Will they have to disassemble the Resolute Desk to get it through the prison cell door?

Technically and Constitutionally, they will have to let him out of prison to serve as President, then when his term is up, he would, theoretically, go back to jail.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 30, 2024 08:56 AM (XV/Pl)

272 Remove 19 YOs from being children and many gun deaths (around half) go away.

That too is another mechanism to manipulate the narrative.

My favorites are using undefined or unconventional metrics, like "food desert" or "mass shootings", or by fluid "standards" like SAT scoring, or by altering the measuring equipment like they do for official weather data siting. Or change reporting requirements like they constantly did for C19. Or flat out redefine "Flu" so that during C19 there were only a thousand or so "Flu" cases nationwide while there were tens of millions of C19 "cases" (whatever the Hell "case" meant at any given time)

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 08:56 AM (rHxhM)

273 And plastics
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:55 AM (a1415)

...which are made from oil

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 30, 2024 08:57 AM (OX9vb)

274 The wonders and blessings of living in California.

https://tinyurl.com/5fv9pawr
++++
No arrests were made. If they had left skid marks on a pride mural you can bet they would have tracked down the culprits.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 30, 2024 08:59 AM (Lo97M)

275 "...which are made from oil"

I think one of the products uses natural gas as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 08:59 AM (a1415)

276 Bring your reading glasses 👓
BOOK THREAD IS OPEN

Posted by: Skip at June 30, 2024 09:00 AM (fwDg9)

277 Rates started at around 2% on incomes equal to about $600,000 income in today's dollars.

I think it's 15% on incomes starting at $35,000 .... The real question is why anybody making less than 500k pays any taxes at all, probably. There doesn't seem to be any relationship to tax revenue and the borrowing/spending. At one time they needed tax revenue because there wasn't this huge confetti-buck cannon they could deploy.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 30, 2024 09:00 AM (UvJyL)

278 To me it means, the room in which I spend most of my time in the afternoon has windows that face in a given direction. Usually that's a "living" room. If the room faces west, that's bad on hot days, good on cold ones.

In some of the larger homes, the "face" of the house was the public side (where you would entertain non-family guests) vs the private side, where the bedrooms and retreats were located.

That has blurred a lot since people have become far less formal and have no qualms about showing people in to the bedrooms.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 09:02 AM (rHxhM)

279 Firefighters received a call about an auto fire around 3 a.m., sending two fire engines as LAPD officers were also sent to the scene to investigate, according to the LA Fire Department.

No one was arrested, police said. "

--

They can track down a grandma from J6 based on a single-frame photo of her earlobe, but all of those stores' camera and witnesses and nope, no one can be arrested.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has more balls than an alley cat with two peckers at June 30, 2024 09:05 AM (36sk4)

280 "They can track down a grandma from J6 based on a single-frame photo of her earlobe, but all of those stores' camera and witnesses and nope, no one can be arrested."

Priorities.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 09:06 AM (a1415)

281 'They can track down a grandma from J6 based on a single-frame photo of her earlobe, but all of those stores' camera and witnesses and nope, no one can be arrested.'

I think this is what we are trying for:

Shot: https://tinyurl.com/mr23e48h

Chaser:https://tinyurl.com/5fv9pawr

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 09:09 AM (a1415)

282 Just like after the Hur report, the debate debacle will be ignored and poll numbers will move back to where they were.

Not a chance. This wasn't a bad night. This was the entire world seeing the leader of the free world has dementia.

If you are sitting in Moscow or Beijing you saw it too. It's not just about the election, we have 5 months of a dementia patient and a halfwit in charge.
Posted by: JackStraw
_______

I don't know. The percentage that is absolutely locked in for Biden has to be at least 40. There's just not much up for grabs.

And on China, hopefully they're thinking that whoever is running things would welcome a war just to provide a rallying point for Joe.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 30, 2024 09:10 AM (Dm8we)

283
"You can always trust a man whose Uncle was eaten by Cannibals!!!"

-- Jill Biden probably

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 09:11 AM (RKVpM)

284 >>I don't know. The percentage that is absolutely locked in for Biden has to be at least 40. There's just not much up for grabs.

>>And on China, hopefully they're thinking that whoever is running things would welcome a war just to provide a rallying point for Joe

I don't disagree but 40% is a landslide loss not a win.

I get the cynicism but what is going on right now is not something the left can cover up or control. Look at the Sunday shows today, it's all about should Joe drop out. And these are Democrats talking to Democrats.

The NYT, the AJC and the Chicago Tribune are all calling for Joe to drop out and the convention is in Chicago. Dropping out now is unheard of and yet that is exactly what they are calling for him to do. They can see the handwriting and they are well aware of Democrats ability to cheat and rig elections. They are in full meltdown.

There are no good answers here for Democrats.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 09:17 AM (LkLld)

285 "There are no good answers here for Democrats."

Seppuku?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 09:20 AM (a1415)

286 I'm fascinated by what is going on with the debate fallout. Those of us on the right are just watching this with a dafuq? expression on our faces.

Looking at the timeline, clearly some kind of coup/op was just run against Biden. What is weird is trying to figure out who is behind it?

On the ONT last night I mentioned that the media is more tightly aligned with the deep state than with the Democrats, and there is clearly a massive rift in play between media and the DNC happening.

First we have the run up to the debate. The scheduling and format were very weird. We all thought it was a set up to get Trump. But the situation put tremendous pressure on Biden. He had to perform in a way that he was clearly not going to be able to, to succeed. The split screen format, the long periods where Biden would have to talk uninterrupted, no audience. These were all conditions the media imposed. Tapper wasn't throwing Biden lifelines during the debate.

In the end, Biden had to clear a pretty high bar (for him) to come out of the debate successful.

So then what happens before/since the debate?

/cont

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 09:21 AM (5p7BC)

287 Dave in Fla

Glad to see you commenting, and sharing your thoughts on this.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 09:25 AM (a1415)

288
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 09:21 AM

He's back!!! Welcome, stranger.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 09:25 AM (RKVpM)

289 "Tapper wasn't throwing Biden lifelines during the debate."

This.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 09:26 AM (QB+5g)

290 I get the idea that there is something in play but really what is it? There is no one waiting in the wings.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 09:29 AM (QB+5g)

291 "On the ONT last night I mentioned that the media is more tightly aligned with the deep state than with the Democrats, and there is clearly a massive rift in play between media and the DNC happening. "

I think it's safe to say that while many Democrats are Deep-Staters..

Not every Deep-Stater is a Democrat.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 09:31 AM (a1415)

292 1) On the morning of the debate, Axios drops an article about how Michele Obama hates the Bidens, and that one of her best friends in Hunter Biden's first wife. The woman he left for his brother's widow.

2) During the debate, 30 minutes into it, the NY Times posts that there are panicked phone calls going on with Democrat leadership and donors about Biden's performance.

3) After the debate, John King, who has the highest reputation at CNN, leads off with how his phone is lit up with people talking about how they have to dump Biden.

4) Chris Wallace declares Biden's campaign to be over.

5) Politico headline "Biden is Toast"

6) The next day, NY Times editorial calls for Biden to step down for the good of the country.

7) Axios begins to publish the truth about the Biden administration. They admit to the sundowning, saying he is only cogent from 10-4.

Axios and other outlets are openly calling it an "Oligarchy" that is running the country, made up of long term Biden supporters.

It is media open season on the Biden campaign. But then look at the Democrat side of the situation.

/cont

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 09:31 AM (5p7BC)

293 >>I get the idea that there is something in play but really what is it? There is no one waiting in the wings.

Might be worth considering that our evil overlords aren't as smart as they think they are and sometimes events spin out of their control.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 09:33 AM (LkLld)

294 On the ONT last night I mentioned that the media is more tightly aligned with the deep state than with the Democrats, and there is clearly a massive rift in play between media and the DNC happening.

One Word: "Chevron"

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 09:34 AM (rHxhM)

295
The only guy I think would be acceptable to the largest group of voters is the current Governor of Maryland. I wouldn't vote for him, but he's kinda okay. Current residents of the state probably know more then I can discern from Wiki as to his faults.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 09:35 AM (RKVpM)

296 Might be worth considering that our evil overlords aren't as smart as they think they are and sometimes events spin out of their control.

Lacking discipline.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 09:35 AM (rHxhM)

297 It is media open season on the Biden campaign. But then look at the Democrat side of the situation.

DfF, you have been around long enough to know that the News Cycle has to purge this toxin out of their system then return to normal.

So the debate didn't work for Biden, these short-attention span Cluster B sociopaths are working out their emotions, but will soon find another squirrel to lose their minds over.

One week from now, it will be "What debate?" and "Did you see how Biden "owned" Trump prior to Trump's sentencing to Rikers?"

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 30, 2024 09:39 AM (rHxhM)

298 Poll from CBS/YouGov about the debate. This is a left leaning poll.

This is a disaster for Democrats.

https://tinyurl.com/76k727sn

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 09:40 AM (LkLld)

299 At first many of us (including me) thought this was being run by Obama, maybe even Michele. But the next day, Obama makes his statement that Biden is the nominee and that won't change. Bill Clinton follows up with something similar.

And they are right. The logistics of replacing Biden right now, even if Biden were to withdraw, are disastrous. They purposely locked everyone out of the primaries, so Biden has all the pledged delegates. They have to vote for Biden on the first ballot. Biden gets the nomination no matter what.

Also, the time to get on the ballot in Wisconsin and Nevada are now past. If they replace Biden, then those two states will go to Trump by default.

This means Biden can't get to 270, since his only path is to sweep Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

Ballot access is freaking hard, and it takes months of party work to get through maze of all the states. RFK has been "running" for a year, and has only gotten on the ballot of 6 states.

The Democrats know that this is impossible, and replacing Biden can't be done.

Yet the media is continuing to attack Biden and haven't stopped.

/cont

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 09:40 AM (5p7BC)

300 "Current residents of the state probably know more then I can discern from Wiki as to his faults."

Dude is Plastic Jesus 2.0

An empty suit filled with phrases and platitudes, but he speaks 'well'.

Last week his biggest concern while in office was ending his term with folks still carrying the stigma of a drug possession conviction.

Women being killed by illegal aliens.

Children receiving High School diplomas, but unable to read the words printed on them

High crime driving folks out of the States larges city.

And his biggest concern by his own words was pardoning over 100,000 drug possession convictions.

Yeh, he's just like Obama.
Just not as smart.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 09:40 AM (a1415)

301
"Did you see how Biden "owned" Trump prior to Trump's sentencing to Rikers?"

I'd guess with the groundswell of opinion that Biden should step down and the current polling the judge will do no such thing. Might even delay sentencing until the smoke clears.

If he has any brain cells, that is. The 'Get Trump' train has left the station and all the passengers are either dead or dying.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 09:44 AM (RKVpM)

302 Thank you for the articulate explanation, Dave. I’ve been trying to make those points for some time but haven’t been able to put it so well. The only realistic replacement for Biden, for instance if he keeled over tomorrow, is Kamala. That’s locked in too.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 09:47 AM (S6gqv)

303 "If he has any brain cells, that is."

I think I may have spotted the problem....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 09:47 AM (a1415)

304 This morning, Scarmuchi posted about how he was at the Biden Hampton's fundraiser and Biden did well, reading off the teleprompter.

Brian Seltzer responded "He is reading off a teleprompter at a fundraiser?!?"

Brian Seltzer!!

So while the Democrats and the online leftists are trying to circle the wagons, and pretend it was "just a bad night" and "the voters will prefer old to a lying felon", the media is not playing along.

A switch has been flipped.

Who did this? Because it was clearly deliberate. CNN and the rest of the media could have kept trying to gaslight. CNN didn't have to use the split screen (which was HORRIBLY damaging). The NY Times could have waited to the end of the debate.

And the media keeps twisting the knife. Axios has referred to "the Oligarchy" in 4 separate articles now.

/done for now

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 09:47 AM (5p7BC)

305 "The only realistic replacement for Biden, for instance if he keeled over tomorrow, is Kamala."

Yup.

Says it right in the rules.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 09:48 AM (a1415)

306
An empty suit filled with phrases and platitudes, but he speaks 'well'.

snip:

Yeh, he's just like Obama.
Just not as smart.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 09:40 AM

In other words a serious contender - in the eyes of the left.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 09:48 AM (RKVpM)

307 Puzzling to me is that obama is sticking with the spud. Did he really not know how bad potatus is? If so, all the joking about he and michelle being lazy grifters is true. Or Dave in Fla is correct and the progs have nowhere else to go, potatus is it and has to be propped up.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 09:49 AM (2NHgQ)

308 "So while the Democrats and the online leftists are trying to circle the wagons, and pretend it was "just a bad night" and "the voters will prefer old to a lying felon", the media is not playing along.

A switch has been flipped. "

A silent media coup?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 09:49 AM (a1415)

309 >>Puzzling to me is that obama is sticking with the spud.

I think you answered your own question. Biden is Obama's puppet. We have been living through Obama's 3rd term. If Biden goes so does a huge part of Obama's influence.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 09:54 AM (LkLld)

310 Any hi everyone! Nice to be back and spewing the thoughts rolling around in my head LOL

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 09:57 AM (5p7BC)

311 They have been telling us, over and over, that Biden is competent. So they will run him. Maybe he OD's before the election so Kamala gets the sympathy vote? I think they let Trump win, crash the economy in revenge and stage their real coup.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 09:59 AM (xjTDL)

312 Nice to hear from you again, Dave!

As to the split on the left - A House divided against itself cannot stand.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 09:59 AM (S6gqv)

313 Have thought about you a lot, Dave, as it all seemed so hopeless three years ago

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 10:00 AM (xjTDL)

314 That is something I don't think can happen VIA. The media is too diversified now.

They are a herd and will follow herd instincts. But someone has to set them in motion.

The key players are Axios and John King. King is very tied to the deep state, very dialed into the people running things in DC.

I'm less familiar with Axios, I think they are run by the guys who created Politico and sold it to the Germans.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 10:01 AM (5p7BC)

315 Dave,
I missed your viewpoints and insights.

Please keep sharing.

I wonder if the media has said that the only way to recover is to let it burn.

And build back up from the ashes.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:02 AM (a1415)

316 I don't know Jack. If kamala is as unintelligent as she appears, obama could control her as well. She may spout word salad but she's not a dementia patient and would give the appearance of sentient life. If obama is controlling the spud, kamala has to know. We can speculate all we want on how they will get rid of old joe, however the only way is for kamala to take over from what I've gleaned.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 10:04 AM (2NHgQ)

317 "That is something I don't think can happen VIA."

I agree that it sounds improbable.

But we have seen several improbable things take place in the last 96 hours or so.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:04 AM (a1415)

318
The Hitler downfall video of Hitler watching the debate was great - link somewhere above. YouTube comments are usually infested with leftists but not this time. Someone left this spot-on comment:

Steps that Trumps needs to take to win a debate:
1) arrive on time
2) Do absolutely nothing, Biden will take care of destroying himself
3) leave

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 10:05 AM (RKVpM)

319 So here is a weird thought that I think fits the facts on the ground.

What if someone in the Oligarchy, or one degree of separation away heard Biden speculate on escalating Ukraine to the brink of using nukes? Something like authorizing Ukraine to use tactical nukes?

Could this be the deep state taking him out because they think he is too dangerous in his mental state?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 10:06 AM (5p7BC)

320 Hitler Rant link

https://tinyurl.com/3dhkzemv

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:07 AM (a1415)

321 "Could this be the deep state taking him out because they think he is too dangerous in his mental state?"

Not an implausible idea.

But I also keep asking if the family has taken away his car keys as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:09 AM (a1415)

322 "What if someone in the Oligarchy, or one degree of separation away heard Biden speculate on escalating Ukraine to the brink of using nukes? Something like authorizing Ukraine to use tactical nukes? "

I remembered seeing this last night.

From Tulsi Gabbard:

https://tinyurl.com/3bb73dxm

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:12 AM (a1415)

323 >> I don't know Jack. If kamala is as unintelligent as she appears, obama could control her as well.

She can't win. I know there are some here who think the left's ability to cheat is unlimited but I don't agree.

I've said all along they need to have a candidate who is at least plausible in order for the cheat to work. That's why they hid Biden in 2020 and for most of his presidency and made up narratives for him. If they could install anyone they wanted we wouldn't even be having this conversation, they would just ram Joe through.

Trump never led in the RCP average of polls in 2020. He's been leading almost without exception this cycle for months and after Thursday his lead is going up. I don't know that there is any big conspiracy about media. Go back a few days, many here thought Trump blew the election by agreeing to debate Joe on CNN. Instead the world got to see what we have been saying for years, Joe is done. The media has torched their credibility by lying about Joe and now they are scrambling to save what little they have left.

This genie is not going back in the bottle.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2024 10:12 AM (LkLld)

324
Could this be the deep state taking him out because they think he is too dangerous in his mental state?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 10:06 AM

Both my wife and I spent some time working in an assisted living facility with dementia patients. Females were not a problem but many males with dementia had to get asked to leave because of extreme aggression.

It's an interesting theory. No newsroom is going to make any money buried under 20 feet of rubble.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 10:12 AM (RKVpM)

325 I agree with Jack (I usually do).

Obama is clearly pulling the strings now, and he is the one calming the donors and trying to get everyone back in line.

Kamala's best play is to keep the VP roll, win the election, then take over next year when Obama tosses Bideon out. She would play along, because Obama would have gotten her into the position.

Much bigger risk for her to go up against Trump herself.

Also why I've never bought into the Michele running idea. I think Obama can better control Biden/Harris than he can control Michele.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 10:13 AM (5p7BC)

326 "This genie is not going back in the bottle."

Of course not.

That Genie identifies as Toothpaste.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:13 AM (a1415)

327 "than he can control Michele."

That's a Dick Bumping contest that he just can't win.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:17 AM (a1415)

328 That white lock of hair thing Tulsi is doing is very attractive.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 10:18 AM (5p7BC)

329 Joe probably pissed off the folks that pump him up because he thinks he doesn't need any help so they let him go on un doctored. He probably changed his mind during the first break and they gave him a shot or two and he stopped dropping his train of thoughts so badly.

Trump needs to focus on the fact that Joe needs to be injected to participate in what is going on around him.

Joe is a druggie. Like an alcoholic really does need a drink to stabilize himself.

Biden is drug dependent.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 10:20 AM (QB+5g)

330 "That white lock of hair thing Tulsi is doing is very attractive."

You too, huh?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:23 AM (a1415)

331 Here's a question - Can Biden step away from the election because he's just not up to the task and still keep his current presidency? In a just world, he couldn't give up one and keep the other. He's just plain unfit.

Posted by: 496 at June 30, 2024 10:24 AM (oxbo8)

332 You can speculate that newsrooms in the US are also concerned about the monsters they have created internally. Have they allowed the unprofessional crybabies they employ too much power? Look at what is happening at wapo, their own news people torched the new editor into turning down the position offered to him. The media has created Frankensteins that they employ. Could some of this be a way to reset the msm, spearheaded by the few journalists that have a clue that they are destroying their livlihood? Clear out a vast number of these supposed journalists who lied about the spud.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 10:26 AM (2NHgQ)

333 LBJ stepped out of the race in 1968 without resigning.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2024 10:26 AM (S6gqv)

334 "Can Biden step away from the election because he's just not up to the task and still keep his current presidency?"

I guess if he simply states that he is withdrawing from seeking re-election, he could remain in office till the swearing in.

But if he were to verbalize any reference to diminished faculty, it would be problematic to remain in office till then.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:27 AM (a1415)

335
That video that appeared on Twitter last month of a full scale nuclear attack on Russia by the USA was certainly something. It was certainly put together by some top graphic artists.

Chilling stuff. Only people who would be ushered into a fully provisioned bunker a couple hundred feet underground could be so ambivalent to even a limited exchange with Russia.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 10:27 AM (RKVpM)

336 Here is a real quandary for me.

For VP.

[ ] Tulsi

[ ] Nikki

For the purpose of this comment, you MUST chose one.

Show your work.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:30 AM (a1415)

337 But if he were to verbalize any reference to diminished faculty, it would be problematic to remain in office till then.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:27 AM (a1415)
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We all saw the debate, and more importantly so did every world leader. No matter what Joe chooses to do, we're in dicey waters for the time being.

Posted by: 496 at June 30, 2024 10:31 AM (oxbo8)

338 Tulsi - The hair thing works for me IYKWIM, and she surfs.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 10:32 AM (5p7BC)

339 Yeah good point 496.

There is a chance that if Biden continues to refuse to pull out, the next push is going to be 25th amendment.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 10:33 AM (5p7BC)

340 Imagine a "world leader" who doesn't speak English reading the transcripts of what Joe was mumbling. He's be looking at his translator like there was something wrong with him.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 10:34 AM (QB+5g)

341 "We all saw the debate, and more importantly so did every world leader. No matter what Joe chooses to do, we're in dicey waters for the time being."

True, and I agree that you could build a case for investigating the 25th about now. And in my opinion, after the debate the country is in far more immediate danger from her enemies, both foreign and domestic than we have been in ages.

But the question was, could he drop out but stay in office for the remainder of this term.

And that was the context of my reply.

In the real world, he needs to go.
Now.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:34 AM (a1415)

342 Agreed VIA. Thanks for your thoughts.

Posted by: 496 at June 30, 2024 10:38 AM (oxbo8)

343 There's no way that someone is going to stick their neck out to help Kamala navigate the 25th.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 10:38 AM (QB+5g)

344 "Thanks for your thoughts."

You misspelled 'ramblings'.

But thank you.

Bn a while since I got involved in an actual serious discussion.

Usually it's just attempts to be humorous and make folks smile.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:40 AM (a1415)

345 Kamala:

"The 25th Amendment comes after the 24th and is before the 26th."

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 10:41 AM (QB+5g)

346 "Imagine a "world leader" who doesn't speak English reading the transcripts of what Joe was mumbling. He's be looking at his translator like there was something wrong with him.'

Now imagine a world leader who is fluent in english, watching the debate in real time.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:42 AM (a1415)

347 I'm sure that someone, many someones would help kamala stick a fork in the spud. After last Thursday he lost the election for the progs. No one like kamala, however she's the only chance they have.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 10:42 AM (2NHgQ)

348
The Daily Mail had a headline that stated pretty definitively that Biden was going to spend the weekend with his family discussing some decision. Here it is:

Biden is set to 'discuss a major decision with his family' as he retreats back to the safety of Camp David... while his campaign issues bizarre defense of the embattled president

He's gotta go. Now.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 10:42 AM (RKVpM)

349 ""The 25th Amendment comes after the 24th and is before the 26th.""

And who doesn't love amendments...and yellow school busses?

*Cackle*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:43 AM (a1415)

350 This morning, CNN State of the Union.

Chryron is reading "Major editorial boards, commentators call for Biden to drop out"

Pelosi is trying to argue that Trump is the one with dementia. Then she gets so worked up that she seizes up herself.

The rift between media and Democrats is not going away.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 10:47 AM (5p7BC)

351 " I'm sure that someone, many someones would help kamala stick a fork in the spud. "

You think someone in the political class is willing to risk trashing their career to help a helpless idiot with a brain the size of a pea pull of something as serious and world-shaking as taking down Joe?

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 10:48 AM (QB+5g)

352 "The rift between media and Democrats is not going away. "

To quote you earlier....a switch has been thrown.

I just wonder who threw it.

And what did it energize?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:49 AM (a1415)

353 "You think someone in the political class is willing to risk trashing their career to help a helpless idiot with a brain the size of a pea pull of something as serious and world-shaking as taking down Joe?"

But if successful, that person could ultimately take home the brass ring.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:50 AM (a1415)

354 Every day I try to post Biden's public schedule, by way of illustrating how very little he does.

Today the NY Post reports Biden WH staffers say he only works from 10 AM to 4 PM on those few days he works. Outside of those hours, the WH staff say, he cannot function, makes gaffes, errors, has a terrible time remembering everyday things etc.

This is his own staff saying this to newspapers. I am as slack-jawed as Biden hearing this.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 30, 2024 10:52 AM (HRik4)

355 "But if successful, that person could ultimately take home the brass ring."

Sorry but I don't think DC works that way. Someone will step over your carcass, you "traitor".

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 10:53 AM (QB+5g)

356 pawn, yes. She can be controlled as easily as biden was and could string together several sentences without glitching out like the spud. She doesn't have dementia and can learn without forgetting. She also would be the first black president and would pick up votes on that alone. Her popularity would rise, not enough to win, it's still the economy that controls the outcome. Also, she would have the backing of the msm.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 10:53 AM (2NHgQ)

357 NY Post article on Biden

https://shorturl.at/LPt8Q

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 30, 2024 10:54 AM (HRik4)

358 Jen Psaki is blasting Biden on ABC.

The knives are out.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 10:54 AM (5p7BC)

359 358. Dave in Fla
Say hello to president harris.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 10:55 AM (2NHgQ)

360 'NY Post article on Biden '

Thanks!

Last half is indeed brutal.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:58 AM (a1415)

361 Bill Kristol also on ABC saying Biden can't serve 4 more years.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 11:01 AM (5p7BC)

362 Sounds like the Talking Points have been decided upon.

And sent to the key players.

And so it begins....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 11:03 AM (a1415)

363 With all we are discussing here other countries are going through upheaval as well. France has it's first round of snap elections today. This Reuters article explains what happens if an absolute majority isn't met. And I thought the US was a mess.
https://tinyurl.com/wuyebk5s

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 11:03 AM (2NHgQ)

364 " Her popularity would rise, not enough to win, it's still the economy that controls the outcome. Also, she would have the backing of the msm."

Her popularity can't do anything but rise.

What's the point considering the few short months she will be in power. She can't do it herself and no one will help her. Nobody trust a traitor.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 11:03 AM (QB+5g)

365 pawn. We're talking dems in power, they're all traitors to what the US was meant to be. You give them a lot more credit then they deserve.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 11:05 AM (2NHgQ)

366 I'm thinking that if kamala stepped up to the microphone and told the American people that this isn't about an election in November, but about the security of the United States NOW, and that the November election is a separate issue....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 11:07 AM (a1415)

367 Dave, if you're still here - what would happen if Biden does step down from running, or dies, between now and the D convention? How would another Dem get on the ballot when it would already be "too late?"

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:13 AM (bS+DD)

368 *what ?? where ?? is this the insightful discussion thread I was promised on the other thread ??

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 11:14 AM (V13WU)

369 runner, scoot up to comment 286 and keep reading. Dave has a series of comments.

Come back, Dave!!!

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:15 AM (bS+DD)

370 If Biden is declared as dead, or unable to fulfill the responsibilities of the Office, there has got to be something which is called for by the Constitution.

I'm not talking simply having him step down, but a formal finding of unable to perform the duties.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 11:15 AM (a1415)

371 ..they would laugh...because it's obvious to anyone paying attention that it's about the election in November.

But she's stupid enough to "think" that people would believe her, so maybe...

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 11:16 AM (QB+5g)

372 Coop, coop !

---The Chickens

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 11:17 AM (V13WU)

373 CNN has this article that may or may not help.

https://tinyurl.com/yc8f3477

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 11:18 AM (a1415)

374 VIA, that's where the 25th amendment comes into play, where the VP takes over the presidency. If he dies, Kamala takes over. If they think he is unfit (he is), Kamala would have to initiate the removal and get half the cabinet to agree before sending it over to Congress (I may be a little off but that's the gist as I underand it.)

But I'm talking about with regard to the election. If he says he won't run, or if he dies and CAN'T run, who would be running against Trump?

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:19 AM (bS+DD)

375
What I saw of Biden in that debate proved to me he should not be in office for even four more months.

Remove now. Forcibly if necessary. We can not allow a demented person to set the world on fire in some fit of anger.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 30, 2024 11:19 AM (RKVpM)

376 runner, scoot up to comment 286 and keep reading. Dave has a series of comments.

Come back, Dave!!!
Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:15 AM (bS+DD)

yes! thanks! I've never seen anything like this in body politic! and I've been following ..since I was a baby ! reminiscent of the 60's when political assassinations were the norm !

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 11:19 AM (V13WU)

377 bluebell. If correct this article is informative.
https://tinyurl.com/mryzwtb6

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 11:22 AM (2NHgQ)

378 Thanks for that article, VIA. It still seems murky to me - it seems the answer would be the Dems pick someone according to their party rules. What those are, who the hell knows, and the Dems are not known for following rules anyway.

Now off to read neverenoughcaffeine's article - thank you, nec!

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:24 AM (bS+DD)

379 Hey Bluebell!

If Biden were to die, between now and the election, it is possible to replace him on ballots.

I'm pretty sure that means he is replaced by the VP candidate though, they can't just replace with anyone, once Biden/Harris got enough pledged delegates.

Beyond that, it is a total mess and the practical effect is that the Democrats would have a real change of not having their candidate on specific state ballots.

I keep coming back to Wisconsin. The deadline is past, they can not replace Biden on that ballot, legally, unless Biden dies.

Does anyone have a scenario where the Democrats get to 270 without Wisconsin?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 11:24 AM (5p7BC)

380 Dave since know one knows what's going to happen it's a moot at this point. If the spud decides to withdraw for the good of the party I'd say brokered convention ala lbj.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 11:27 AM (2NHgQ)

381 re: Harris, they can hold a secret superdelegate ballot, and ...magically the country finds out that she does not have enough ballots. They've done it to Sanders. But they cannot dump a POC just like that. That is why I think Warnock is so prominent all of a sudden.

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 11:28 AM (V13WU)

382 "Does anyone have a scenario where the Democrats get to 270 without Wisconsin?"

Yup.

Posted by: Domion Voting Systems, Inc at June 30, 2024 11:29 AM (a1415)

383 I keep coming back to Wisconsin. The deadline is past, they can not replace Biden on that ballot, legally, unless Biden dies.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 11:24 AM (5p7BC)
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Yay! Thanks for coming back, Dave. Yes, I guess this is really my question - if Biden just steps down, but doesn't die, and it's too late to change the ballot in Wisconsin and I think you said Nevada, does that mean that essentially any Dem votes from those states wouldn't count?

And nec - thanks for that article. Similar to the one VIA linked, they essentially say what we all know to be true - it would be a big fat honking mess.

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:30 AM (bS+DD)

384 Bluebell. I'm thinking the big fat honking mess will keep biden in it. They will hope for the best with the sorry ass spud.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 11:32 AM (2NHgQ)

385 "they can not replace Biden on that ballot, legally, unless Biden dies. "

* Blows whistle...honks horn....points*

Posted by: Domion Voting Systems, Inc at June 30, 2024 11:32 AM (a1415)

386 " it would be a big fat honking mess."

AND IT'S ALL TRUMP'S FAULT!!!

Posted by: Democrats, MSM, etc. at June 30, 2024 11:33 AM (QB+5g)

387 Someone here said on one of the debate threads, or maybe it was the next day, that the Dems may just have to come to the realization that they are doomed this year and take the L, giving them time to find a somewhat likable candidate for 2028. Can't remember who it was, sorry, but I don't see how they win this year unless there's a huge cheating scandal the likes of which we can't even imagine.

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:34 AM (bS+DD)

388 Just think, in another timeline Trump would be finishing up his second term and we would be dealing with the prospects of President Pence.

Although we would probably be a lot happier and there wouldn't be two hot wars going on.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 11:37 AM (QB+5g)

389 @387 It could be. They know they will lose , but don't want to sink the party and stay a minority for decades to come. So this could be CYA moment for them. "Hey we warned him! We told him!" Make it his and his family's decision, not the choice of the party.

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 11:37 AM (V13WU)

390 *staiy in the minority that is..

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 11:38 AM (V13WU)

391 Bluebell, you had the power to summon Dave in Fla!

Posted by: Ann at June 30, 2024 11:38 AM (4neFu)

392 There's upwards of ten million illegals in the US. They will be voting.

Game. Set. Match.

Trump will never be allowed to sit in the Oval Office again.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 30, 2024 11:38 AM (IjKjy)

393 ok, I give up..

Posted by: runner at June 30, 2024 11:38 AM (V13WU)

394 Ruminating further, I have the feeling Wisconsin and Nevada would both somehow find a way to get the new Dem on the ballot if they had to. The Dems would complain that the rules need to be broken, just like they did with Ohio, which worked for them. Even though they knew the Ohio rules and flouted them anyway.

I'm afraid I'm to the point where I wouldn't put a single thing past the Democrats.

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:39 AM (bS+DD)

395 Maria Bartiromo just had Devin Nunes, thought to be PDJT's choice for CIA and John Ratcliffe, former Trump DNI, talking about the DOJ/FBI/CIA cabal and how Trump plans to prevent another coup from these scumbags.

It's a fantastic discussion, though much of it will be very familiar to the horde since morons make many of the same comments.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 30, 2024 11:39 AM (B1a/Q)

396 I'm taking a certain satisfaction in believing that the progs have massively over played their transformation of America. They just couldn't take it slow. The chinese lung rot scare, tranny-a-thon, pushing programs that are costly and make zero sense, no southern border, iffy support for Israel, kissing jihadi butt and a million little cuts against our country. Unfortunately it has made us look weak in the world and as others have opined the bad actors know we are basically rudderless. So much for my satisfaction that the progs are drowning since they are taking everyone else down with them.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 11:40 AM (2NHgQ)

397 "giving them time to find a somewhat likable candidate for 2028."

I keep mentioning Maryland Governor Wes ( Is Less) Moore.

He WILL, in my opinion, be vying for nomination in the 2028 election. I don't think he is fully formed enough to step up to the plate for this election. But hey, desperate times call for desperate measures. In the meanwhile, keep an eye on him.

Posted by: Domion Voting Systems, Inc at June 30, 2024 11:40 AM (a1415)

398 Ha, Ann, no, he was here and I came running when someone mentioned it in the book thread!

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:41 AM (bS+DD)

399 neverenough - I'm not sure what would happen at all. I don't think they do as well.

The brokered convention idea is also crazy for a number of reasons. I'm not sure Biden can release his delegates without them having to vote for Harris on the first round.

Also pushing their convention into late August puts them past the deadlines for a number of states. It becomes not just Wisconsin and Nevada that they can't get their candidate on the ballot.

My guess is their only options are:

1) Ride the Biden train to a landslide loss

2) Biden pulls out, make Harris the nominee NOW and try to get Wisconsin to emergency change their laws, and hope none of the other lawsuits work to keep her off the ballot elsewhere

3) Go ahead and blow it up, put in a sacrificial lamb, and ride to a landslide loss where they aren't even on a dozen state ballots.

But who knows, this is all very murky and the laws are different for every state.

I think this probably raises the odd of immediate incarceration for Trump on July 12th to close to 100%

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 11:42 AM (5p7BC)

400 "There's upwards of ten million illegals in the US. They will be voting.

Game. Set. Match. "

One could blunt that with 'The same people who told you to your face that Joe Biden was sharp and focused are telling you that our election process is secure'

Posted by: Domion Voting Systems, Inc at June 30, 2024 11:43 AM (a1415)

401 Dave, yep I'm going for option 1. Throwing PDT in jail gets him a big boost in popularity, they are dumb enough to try but it will fail spectacularly.
On that note, I'm off to church. It's been an interesting discussion, mostly speculation which is often wrong. Still amazed that they allowed him to debate since it's caused everything we've discussed this morning.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 11:45 AM (2NHgQ)

402 Lara Trump just made a great point: PDJT is broadcasting a message loud and clear to our foreign adversaries, saying "Do not try taking advantage of Biden's weakness, because his decline is not America's decline", and Lara makes clear that PDJT will react as soon as he is in office.

He is trying to lead even now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 30, 2024 11:45 AM (B1a/Q)

403 Thanks, everyone, for this fascinating discussion. I guess we just wait and see. I am very glad it is the Dems who have to figure all this out, and not our side. It's must-see tv for sure.

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:46 AM (bS+DD)

404 "He is trying to lead even now."

He's a leader...

It's what they do.

Posted by: Domion Voting Systems, Inc at June 30, 2024 11:46 AM (a1415)

405 "I think this probably raises the odd of immediate incarceration for Trump on July 12th to close to 100%"

Absolutely.

I'm sure he is planning on that.

I just hope his ego doesn't push him over the line into martyrdom.

We are depending on him, big time. I really don't see any other way forward for the country without him.

That is scary.

Posted by: pawn at June 30, 2024 11:47 AM (QB+5g)

406 VIA, take that stinky sock off before it sticks for good!

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:47 AM (bS+DD)

407 Bluebell, Dave is here.

You leaving?

( This has really been an enjoyable thread. Thank you all)

Posted by: Domion Voting Systems, Inc at June 30, 2024 11:48 AM (a1415)

408 OOPS.

Thanks

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 11:48 AM (a1415)

409 322 "What if someone in the Oligarchy, or one degree of separation away heard Biden speculate on escalating Ukraine to the brink of using nukes? Something like authorizing Ukraine to use tactical nukes? "

I remembered seeing this last night.

From Tulsi Gabbard:

https://tinyurl.com/3bb73dxm
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:12 AM (a1415)

Yay, Tulsi!

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 11:48 AM (NHMTR)

410 I think Trump's best line from the debate was when he said he wished Biden was a better president, then he would be retired playing golf.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 11:48 AM (5p7BC)

411 I know Dave is here! And he answered my questions, which was very kind of him. I have lots more, unrelated to the discussion here and more related to election night returns, but I'm not going to push my luck today, lol!

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:49 AM (bS+DD)

412 In the future, we simply say BeetleDave, BeetleDave, BeetleDave...

and *POOF*, he appears.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 11:51 AM (a1415)

413 LOL Bluebell.

I am going to be very cautious on any predictions this year. Just look at what happened in the last 96 hours?

Who could have predicted that?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 11:52 AM (5p7BC)

414 I remembered seeing this last night.

From Tulsi Gabbard:

https://tinyurl.com/3bb73dxm
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:12 AM (a1415)

sniffs

She said "decimate" to mean destruction. Unfit! Unfit!!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 30, 2024 11:55 AM (0eaVi)

415 Who could have predicted that?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 11:52 AM (5p7BC)
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This is what makes me suspicious. Everyone, including the Dems, already knew that Joe was completely gone, mentally. Did they really think they could get him through a 90-minute debate and no one would notice that? I can't imagine they are that delusional.

So, why did they do it? So they can push him out? If so, why not have done something a lot earlier when it wouldn't wreak such havoc for the convention and already-determined ballots? There has to be something they've got up their sleeve, but what is it?

I didn't use to be so conspiracy-minded, but after the last 8 years, I have a whole wardrobe of tin-foil hats, one for each outfit.

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 11:57 AM (bS+DD)

416 "I have a whole wardrobe of tin-foil hats, one for each outfit. "

I find it's easier to go down to the restaurant supply store, and buy them by the roll.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 11:58 AM (a1415)

417 If it's Tulsi or Nikki, I say Tulsi. She loves America and is not a war pig. She seems genuinely turned off at what the Dems have become.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 11:59 AM (xjTDL)

418 "If it's Tulsi or Nikki, I say Tulsi."

I tend to agree with your choice, and your reason.

I see pundits bring up Nikki's name a lot.

Just not here in her home state.

We pretty much despise her.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 12:00 PM (a1415)

419 Hats....

Hats...

Get your hats here

https://tinyurl.com/2se9vu75

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 12:03 PM (a1415)

420 From Tulsi Gabbard:

https://tinyurl.com/3bb73dxm
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 10:12 AM (a1415)

I really like her hair

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 30, 2024 12:04 PM (Ka3bZ)

421 I find it's easier to go down to the restaurant supply store, and buy them by the roll.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 11:58 AM (a1415)
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Ha! That's good for the raw materials, but I like to make each hat a unique creation, to display my creativity and mood that day.

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 12:05 PM (bS+DD)

422 "I really like her hair"

Both Dave and I gave it two thumbs up!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 12:07 PM (a1415)

423 "There has to be something they've got up their sleeve, but what is it?"

I think the mistake is thinking "they" when considering all of this.

I don't think it is a singular faction with a singular goal. There are at least 2 factions and right now they are at war. The DNC and the media are tearing into each other, and I don't think it is theater.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:08 PM (5p7BC)

424 I saw Tulsi interviewed by Tucker and she explained why Hawaii is overwhelming Dem. It made sense that she would come out of that environment as a Democrat. But she did not like what she saw of their leadership.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 12:08 PM (xjTDL)

425 And the media thing is odd. Are they pissed that they did as told and covered for Joe? They've lost more credibility

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (xjTDL)

426 We can probably mov up to CBD's new thread.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (a1415)

427 One last comment I meant to make. Spent time with a former SC state senator. He spent a lot of time working with Haley when he was in office and after. He gave her glowing remarks. Is she my first choice, no, could probably get behind her if she brought in moderate women voters.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at June 30, 2024 12:10 PM (2NHgQ)

428 The DNC and the media are tearing into each other, and I don't think it is theater.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 30, 2024 12:08 PM (5p7BC)
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Close enough for me!!

*munches popcorn*

Posted by: bluebell at June 30, 2024 12:11 PM (bS+DD)

429 Tulsi's military experience is a plus.

Posted by: m at June 30, 2024 12:17 PM (NHMTR)

430 sniffs

She said "decimate" to mean destruction. Unfit! Unfit!!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 30, 2024 11:55 AM (0eaVi)

She seems to be a little overwrought. She was babbling on about total nuclear war and "nuclear winter", which has been discredited, by the way. And sheesh, if you're going to make a video in an attempt to sway people, shoot it with a real camera, not friggin' phone! She's that Biden is insane, but the presentation is laughably bad.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2024 12:26 PM (pjBYi)

431 I do like the idea of locating government agency offices in space.

Posted by: Super Genius at June 30, 2024 03:10 PM (ZOUg2)

432 Re: data centers in space
One of the chief concerns in spacecraft is heat dissipation. Data centers produce loads of heat, and there will be no easy way to cool them.

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