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Who failed to position Kamala Harris for success? George Floyd!

defund.jpg

Remember 2020?

Can Kamala Harris become unburdened from what has been?

The Babylon Bee suggests that the timing is right.

In contrast, a social media friend in Japan writes about a piece in Slate,

Was reading this for a little perspective from the left, finding myself amazed and bemused at the semantic gap.

The Slate piece is linked below in case you wish to analyze it, but beware that an AI assistant is offered for your guidance. Which reminds me that certain people have suggested that "deep fakes" could help even out some of Joe Biden's presentations, even though "cheap fakes" are obviously evil.

Slate is not happy: It’s Kamala Harris’ Moment. But Biden May Have Screwed That Up Too. From July 1.

There are some interesting excuses for and harumphs about the debate and its aftermath, then this piece gets down to issues affecting Kamala:

Joe Biden was old when he ran for president. He and his team should have spent the past four years road testing surrogates and grooming potential successors. Instead, they’ve sidelined their vice president and failed to place the spotlight on any of the Democratic Party’s many bright, shining potential stars. Now the very predictable has happened: The oldest-ever American president is showing his age, voters are reasonably wondering whether he will be up to the extremely demanding tasks of governing until he’s 86—86!—and there is no obvious Plan B.

Under normal circumstances, Plan B would be the vice president, and a small handful of commentators are already voicing support for Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket. The reasons are obvious enough: She is the vice president, after all; she is by most accounts a perfectly competent if not particularly compelling leader; and skipping over her has the potential to anger and alienate core Democratic constituencies (Black voters, female voters).

But Harris is also unpopular. . .

What follows seems rather convoluted to me. Kamala's unpopularity is not her fault. It's all due to the burdens of what has been in past political history, the failures of political operatives around her, plus bigotry of various types, all working together against her.

Then:

But she really suffered from running for president in 2020. That year was in many ways a cultural blip, and one of its most significant irregularities was the brief turn against policing and prosecution. In any other election year, including probably this one, a tough-on-crime stance is a benefit to politicians, especially those with national aspirations. But 2020 was a year of mass protests against police violence. Progressive prosecutors won high-profile elections, and although no police forces were actually defunded, the slogan “Defund the Police” became a progressive rallying cry. Even many Republicans seemed amenable to criminal justice reform. “Kamala is a cop” became a pointed and effective attack line because there was a major and long-brewing national backlash against cops. Career prosecutors were not the moment’s rising stars.

Kamala's career woes were really started by George Floyd!

She had done all the right things to move up the political ladder, and then George Floyd changed the narrative!

She tried to make up for her image as a tough cop in this new environment by setting up that bail fund with her progressive friends for protesters arrested in George Floyd protests. People arrested for other crimes also got bailed out after the pool of arrested protesters ran out (as long as the arrestees fit certain racial criteria). Somehow, that didn't do the trick for her. The Slate piece didn't mention the bail fund. Or Tulsi Gabbard.

Anyway, Kamala's primary campaign in 2020 didn't go so well.

California Nightmares

It has always bothered me that The Party sent Gavin Newsom to escort Kamala Harris out of the primaries when she was sinking into disaster, before she was chosen as Biden's running mate.

Lloyd Billingsley at Powerline yesterday:

Harris and Newsom’s Brown Connection

With waxworks effigy Joe Biden in post-debate meltdown, Steve spots a Kamala zeitgeist, starring Harris as Joe’s successor. In this high concept, the younger Kamala, 59, has the advantage over the older Trump, 78, and only Kamala can inherit the Biden-Harris $250 million campaign warchest.

And Newsom is making some moves to position himself for the nationals stage, too.

In her new book, Newsom Unleashed: The Progressive Lust for Unbridled Power, Ellie Gardey Holmes notes that Newsom and Gordon Getty helped elect Willie Brown mayor of San Francisco. Brown then appointed Newsom to the city’s Parking and Traffic Commission, followed by a promotion to the Board of Supervisors. “Newsom entered office entirely indebted to Willie Brown,” and locals referred to him as “an appendage of Willie Brown.” The powerful Democrat also had a thing for Kamala Harris, 30 years his junior.

Brown appointed Harris to lucrative sinecures and backed his main squeeze in runs for district attorney of San Francisco, attorney general of California, and everything beyond. So now contending for president are a former appendage of Willie Brown and a person experienced with Willie Brown’s appendage. .

YIPES

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It now seems so long ago that the press was confident of Biden's ability to beat Trump in the debate.

There is something wrong when the narrative can change so fast, with no adequate recognition of the part the press played in the big surprise of Biden's debate performance.

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Independence Day Weekend

There is a surprising amount of content up at Powerline for a holiday weekend, including a new Week in Pictures, Orange Revolution Edition.

Looks like America is undergoing it’s own Orange Revolution. It is said that nothing rhymes with orange, but in the make-it-up world of Karine Jean-Pierre what rhymes with orange is “Joe Biden is the kindest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known. Also the smartest and most energetic. In fact he ran a marathon before breakfast this morning. That’s why his face looked so orange in his latest appearance. It had nothing to do with Trump. Or the debate. What debate? I don’t know what you’re talking about. I have nothing to add.”

But there was another revolution which we are celebrating this weekend. There are quotes from Abraham Lincoln and Calvin Coolidge on the Eternal Meaning of Independence Day.

And from someone not even an American:

Do you have a favorite Independence Day quote?

Here is a craft created by a relative for her grandkids. A bit of Revolutionationary War history:

first officer killed in revolution.jpg


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Music

Dancing with General Washington

Don't give up before 1:20:

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Hope you have something nice planned for this holiday weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Threads from the past two weeks below. Thanks to Misanthropic Humanitarian for filling in last week. Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on past threads. But don't try it anyway.

June 22, When you're a leftist, how do you choose?

June 29, Misanthropic Humanitarian: Dear Mrs. Jill Biden

Posted by: K.T. at 11:02 AM




Comments

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1 Good morning K.T.!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 11:05 AM (pPOh9)

2 I'll fetch the others.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 11:05 AM (pPOh9)

3 They have been notified.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 11:06 AM (pPOh9)

4 But, they're slow.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 11:07 AM (pPOh9)

5 Oh!
All four!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 11:07 AM (pPOh9)

6 Good Morning! Been wondering where I've been? Well, in the hospital for a few days. Went in because I had some symptoms that they say could indicate a heart attack in women. It wasn't a heart attack. But I had fluid around my right lung, and they drained much of it off.

Made my BP spike and caused other symptoms - shortness of breath, etc.

Now to figure out what cause it. There were no bacteria.

Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 11:09 AM (rrtZS)

7 This would've been Willowed, but the blog ate my comment: As for the "IED" incident in Portland, the article says it was an energy drink can packed with some sort of charge (maybe fireworks). It also happened on July 4, in Beaverton, which is a mostly middle- and upper-middle class suburb on the west side of Portland. I'm not saying it wasn't deliberate, but it doesn't mean we've reached the "Fallujah" stage in the PNW, not just yet. If PDT gets re-elected, then I expect we'l have a full insurgency in the Willamette Valley.

Posted by: PabloD at July 06, 2024 11:11 AM (ohsd/)

8 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 11:11 AM (fwDg9)

9 The thing about irony is it's so ironic.

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
Pro-abortion Democrats march to “Born in the USA,” blissfully unaware of the searing irony.

https://is.gd/aszt7g

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 11:11 AM (L/fGl)

10 There's speculation about Harris' refusal to use the pipe bomb event at DNC HQ in the capitol city on J6. She was there at the time. Her Secret Service detail was observed in the area where the pipe bomb was located and seemed to indicate they knew it was fake.

The speculation is about why she doesn't use the event to pad her street creed. She never mentions it. The media, obviously, doesn't report on it. Even though most people don't know the pipe bomb was fake.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2024 11:13 AM (Q4IgG)

11
Now to figure out what cause it. There were no bacteria.
Posted by: KT

You're in my prayers.
Glad it wasn't a heart attack!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 11:13 AM (pPOh9)

12 AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 11:13 AM

Thanks.

Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 11:15 AM (rrtZS)

13 George Washington was truly a gentleman

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2024 11:15 AM (o2ZRX)

14 KT,
Glad you doing better! I've had a heart attack, not fun, would not recommend!

Posted by: lin-duh at July 06, 2024 11:18 AM (PZo5T)

15 Willowed:
452 Vivek and DeSantis nail the whole debate affair and why it worked out as it did.

Vivek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PatIoAocZsA

DeS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ-q_WM7wcM

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)

16 The dancing video was amusing. Mt. Vernon seems to have figured out how to attract people to events there. I've been to whiskey tastings, and tours of the library, including the Washington papers.

A dance such as that shown would definitely get me out in my colonial outfit.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2024 11:20 AM (xCA6C)

17 Read at Frontpage Mag- What time it is
Imprisonment of Stephen K Bannon

They have taken him out the rest of the year

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 11:20 AM (fwDg9)

18 I think it is time for Donald Trump to start writing a new book. Tentative title: "The Art of Shutting Up".

Let the Dems talk about their idiot candidate. Or their spat with the media, or their VP who is not well positioned, but has all the campaign money. Or how the President listens only to God - that's a winner!

If you must talk... make it about America's future.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 06, 2024 11:21 AM (fvaUq)

19 Kindergartner - “maybe it was a toomah!”

Ahnold: IT’S NOT A TOOMAH!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2024 11:24 AM (pgG81)

20 Hadn't Kamala's campaign imploded in January of 2020, way prior to the George Floyd incident?

Posted by: Con Reeder at July 06, 2024 11:24 AM (dAMqW)

21 Morning.

I'd say the time is right to unburden Kamala from political office.

She can find a much more satisfying career in the private sector hocking walk in showers to senior citizens.

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 11:24 AM (1Yy3c)

22 >I think it is time for Donald Trump to start writing a new book. Tentative title: "The Art of Shutting Up".

The split screen, where Biden flinches trying to get the words out, and Trump looking to his left in a concerned way, has left a mark.

OT: Poor Man's Poison, Hell's Comin With Me

https://youtu.be/beK6T_tt-pE?si=v9yyetG1wPamArxb

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 06, 2024 11:26 AM (lhenN)

23
Never had a heart attack only the heartache of psoriasis.

Posted by: As Seen On TV at July 06, 2024 11:27 AM (RKVpM)

24 Good Morning! Been wondering where I've been? Well, in the hospital for a few days. Went in because I had some symptoms that they say could indicate a heart attack in women. It wasn't a heart attack. But I had fluid around my right lung, and they drained much of it off.

Made my BP spike and caused other symptoms - shortness of breath, etc.

Now to figure out what cause it. There were no bacteria.
Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 11:09 AM (rrtZS)

Bummer, bro.

I thought maybe you were running guns into Mexico. Hospital stays aren't nearly as exciting.

Glad to see you're doing okay!

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 11:27 AM (1Yy3c)

25 Instead, they’ve sidelined their vice president and failed to place the spotlight on any of the Democratic Party’s many bright, shining potential stars.

Have not read the article yet, but does the author give any examples of these "bright, shining potential stars" of the Democrat Party?

Only ones that come to mind, regarding whom the Deep State would think are rising stars, are Wretched Whitmer, Gavin Newsom and Bootyjudge.

And they have "sidelined their vice president" for good reason. She's quite an idiot. They actually tried to give her things to do where she could have made a name for herself (i.e. the border and immigration). But she either failed spectacularly at that or she succeeded spectacularly at what she was told to do. Which was lie about border security while keeping the border wide, wide open for the flooding of illegals to use to fortify the 2024 election.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 06, 2024 11:29 AM (P5BPp)

26 KT:
Prayers up from here!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at July 06, 2024 11:29 AM (hOUT3)

27
Agreed. It's time for Trump to be silent, buy popcorn, get some rounds in, and lower his handicap.

In case it becomes a national issue again.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 11:29 AM (RKVpM)

28 Here's what I'm perversely looking forward to.

Biden does not give in. He becomes the official Democratic nominee.

Then we get 'The Great Walkback!' The media steps back from the dementia stories, marvel at how much better Biden is, Joe recuperated from Long Covid and Biden Is Back Baby!

That's going to be fun.

Posted by: Stateless at July 06, 2024 11:31 AM (jvJvP)

29 ...[Kamala Harris] is by most accounts a perfectly competent if not particularly compelling leader...

"By most accounts" a "perfectly competent ... leader"? On whose accounts is this statement based???

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 06, 2024 11:33 AM (P5BPp)

30 Definitely Trump needs to stay calm and let the Marxists shoot themselves in the foot

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 11:35 AM (fwDg9)

31 KT, Thanks for the report. Prayers sent. Hoping for diagnosis and full recovery soon.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at July 06, 2024 11:35 AM (zudum)

32 28 Here's what I'm perversely looking forward to.
Then we get 'The Great Walkback!' The media steps back from the dementia stories, marvel at how much better Biden is, Joe recuperated from Long Covid and Biden Is Back Baby!

That's going to be fun.
Posted by: Stateless at July 06, 2024 11:31 AM (jvJvP)

"Lay back and think of England, my dear!"

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2024 11:36 AM (j4U/Z)

33 18 I think it is time for Donald Trump to start writing a new book. Tentative title: "The Art of Shutting Up".
Posted by: Ray Van Dune
=======
This is a general comment toward those that pontificate about politics.

Before criticizing someone else and telling them what to do--"What have YOU done to improve our political system." People in the trenches registering voters, volunteering to be poll watchers and election judges, showing up at local events manning a table and handing out pamphlets, etc. You can even join many voter integrity groups now to check off invalid voters in your local area.

I have been involved in politics at the national, state, and local level for decades and the most useless are those that watch a bit of news and suddenly believe they are the most informed pundits of the political universe.

No one, including DJT is going to save you if you don't take action yourself to do what you can do to change the system.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 11:37 AM (/0X3E)

34 I think it is time for Donald Trump to start writing a new book. Tentative title: "The Art of Shutting Up".

He actually has been doing a good job of that lately.

Instead, they’ve sidelined their vice president and failed to place the spotlight on any of the Democratic Party’s many bright, shining potential stars.

Have not read the article yet, but does the author give any examples of these "bright, shining potential stars" of the Democrat Party?

Only ones that come to mind, regarding whom the Deep State would think are rising stars, are Wretched Whitmer, Gavin Newsom and Bootyjudge.


Megyn Kelly disagrees, and I think she's right. Start at about 6:30, although the whole thing is worth your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbfmCROTdk8


Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2024 11:37 AM (xCA6C)

35 Trump could ignore Biden and engage the Democrat Machine policies which will the same no matter who gets in if they [air quotes] "win again".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 06, 2024 11:38 AM (cOq4q)

36 I think that at some point (if not right now) people in the ruling party are going to regret not encouraging Kamala Harris to just stay in CA and keep the Senate seat there warm for 18-24 years or so.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 11:41 AM (nJTSw)

37 Mornin’ …

Posted by: Adriane the Critical of Morning Critic . . . at July 06, 2024 11:41 AM (TX4bP)

38 The Dems seem to think that Biden could live another four years. Maybe as a vegetable.

What about America? What about the free world? See, it doesn't matter to them. All that matters is they stay power and the media stays in line.

If they're lucky, Trump will win, and they'll have to develop a soul. If they're not, Hell will come for them, and they will deserve it.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 06, 2024 11:42 AM (fvaUq)

39 whig, thank you for that. Anybody can be a critic. Takes hard work to produce change

Posted by: Ben Had at July 06, 2024 11:42 AM (xpCR0)

40 >>> Only ones that come to mind, regarding whom the Deep State would think are rising stars, are Wretched Whitmer, Gavin Newsom and Bootyjudge.

Bootjuice may actually be dumber than Kumdumpster Harris.
Whitmer is statist authoritarion right out of casting (stasi, nazi, whatever, just change the uniform).

It'll be Newsome. He made Caslifornia what it is today!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 06, 2024 11:43 AM (cOq4q)

41 Is that meme up a movie stillshot or is it a couple of Portland's finest watching blm/antifa working over somebody?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 06, 2024 11:45 AM (cOq4q)

42 35 Trump could ignore Biden and engage the Democrat Machine policies which will the same no matter who gets in if they [air quotes] "win again".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
======
This is going to be a referendum election based on the Dems. Just as the election in UK was based on the Tory record and in France, Macron's. To some extent, what matters in such elections is more retrospective voting than prospective. Tories warning about how the skies would fall in the UK if Labor got elected did not sway the electorate much while their awful performance in government did. Labor, didn't do well either as their vote share was something around 33 percent or so but the Tories dropped even more and overall turnout dropped quite a bit.

Macron is in a similar pickle. For years, the left and the remaining centrists have tried to keep the right out of power by warning the sky will fall if LePen etc. take power. At some point, those phantom fears are overwhelmed by the stench of incumbent pols pissing all over the people and calling it needed rain to make society grow.
Germany and Australia also are examples that WEF policies are brain dead and evil.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 11:45 AM (/0X3E)

43 Whitmer is statist authoritarion right out of casting (stasi, nazi, whatever, just change the uniform).

Gretchen, She-Bitch of the SS

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2024 11:46 AM (xCA6C)

44 Agree- Trump should resist the urge to pile on
or not
never seen this situation before

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 11:46 AM (/7KEl)

45 Morn' All.. Prayers for you K.T. Somehow I don't think Joes interview yesterday with Georgie went the way he had hoped..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2024 11:47 AM (IyPmt)

46 What happens if Joe can't be forced out but kicks two weeks before the election. Specifically, what happens to all of the early votes cast for him at that time?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 06, 2024 11:47 AM (Dm8we)

47 Made my BP spike and caused other symptoms - shortness of breath, etc.

Now to figure out what cause it. There were no bacteria.
Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 11:09 AM (rrtZS)

Welcome back, KT! Good to hear you are on the mend.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 11:48 AM (jEbF6)

48 The girl in the video is a dead ringer for one of my clients.

Women have killed the art of flirting. Don’t whine you don’t have a man when you get stompy footed if they flirt. When you tell a man no thank you, that should be it, no need to be creepy, gentlemen, but holy hades, girls.

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 11:48 AM (pZEOD)

49 Somehow I don't think Joes interview yesterday with Georgie went the way he had hoped..

Willowed:
422 I have long thought that Stephanopoulos was sent out to administer the coup de grace to Biden.

It seems that others agree.

After watching the 23-minute interview, it was obvious that Stephanopoulos was sent out to stab Caesar to death on [pre-recorded] television. There's no other way to spin it. After the interview, ABC political hacks piled on. Rather than reassuring skittish Democrat operatives (let alone the public) that Biden is fine, it reinforced the narrative that he is too old and feeble to remain as the nominee.

On Thursday, my esteemed colleague Stephen Green wrote:

Some argue that Stephanopoulos has been brought on not to help Biden but to commit the System's coup de grâce and "rhetorically assassinate" their flailing POTUS. Let George trip him up a couple of times in front of the TV cameras, the thinking goes, and even DOCTOR Jill Biden will have no choice but to relent and tell Joe to go Full LBJ.

https://tinyurl.com/8xvtnd3h

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2024 11:48 AM (xCA6C)

50
My grandfather was hugely involved in politics on the local level, which inspired my father to run for office and win and be reelected many times.

When he moved to Chester County, Pennsylvania he contacted the (R) party and told them of his history. They said good, address these envelopes and then put stamps on them.

The 'good ol' boys' aren't too welcoming to new faces. Unless they have some grunt work to be done.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 11:48 AM (RKVpM)

51
Bootjuice may actually be dumber than Kumdumpster Harris.
Whitmer is statist authoritarion right out of casting (stasi, nazi, whatever, just change the uniform).

It'll be Newsome. He made Caslifornia what it is today!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 06, 2024 11:43 AM


And here is the thing that bothers me with whitmer, she is extremely popular in Michigan. The wife3 has two sisters who live in Michigan and they both love her. I asked the one sister why and she just said some nonsense about her being a strong woman. When I asked her about the draconian lock downs and the fact that her and her husband avoided the lock downs by vacationing in Florida she had no real response.


She just cringed when I brought up the fact that the husband pulled the "do you know who I am married to" card when he got his boat in the water before she lifted the lock downs on the lakes. I don't get it, and neither sister is a flaming liberal.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 06, 2024 11:48 AM (QNSds)

52 HAZMAT train wreck in N Dakota
somebody call Buttgig, tell him to spit out the ballgag and ditch the donkey costume, and do his job

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 11:49 AM (/7KEl)

53 Prayers, KT! Sounds scary but glad things look to be on the upswing!

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 11:49 AM (pZEOD)

54 When will Dr Jill start physically abusing Joe

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 06, 2024 11:49 AM (JLq/1)

55 You know what Tuco said about talking.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2024 11:50 AM (63Dwl)

56 Harris will unburden herself. Actually, others will do it for her - and they don't care if you know - as they have in all other past careers she's held.
---
Today, April 13, 2013, 'Obama apologizes to Kamala Harris for 'best-looking attorney general' comment'

ndtv world new (press of India) 08/12/2020: 'Barack Obama's Advice Made Biden Choose Kamala Harris As Vice Presidential Running Mate: Report'
A person close to the Vice-Presidential search told CNN that Joe Biden and Barack Obama spoke regularly about the choices before the Democratic Party and the political moment facing the country.

Politico, Transition 2020, 12/07/2020, 'Maya Harris aided effort to boost husband’s attorney general bid'
The vice president-elect’s sister, a major player in Kamala Harris’ presidential run, has no formal role in the Biden transition.

America 250 debuted a New Ambassador Circle in June & it includes Willie Brown, Former Mayor, San Francisco, CA.

It's distraction; too many are falling for it. "We have the issues" ... not the presenter.

She'll have it at whatever agreed upon time, after the Bs are all clear of future litigation, punishment.

"Vote for the presidency, not a president."

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 06, 2024 11:50 AM (NFX2v)

57 she is by most accounts a perfectly competent if not particularly compelling leader

Competent?

*spit-take*

America's secure borders stand as a monument to Kneepad McRoundheel's 'competence'.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 11:50 AM (jdHxK)

58 When will did Dr Jill start physically abusing Joe

FIFY

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2024 11:51 AM (xCA6C)

59 51
' I asked the one sister why and she just said some nonsense about her being a strong woman. '

It's all about the beaver. The rest of us can all just suffer as long as they can point to some woman and pretend she's their champion.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2024 11:51 AM (3wi/L)

60 "But Harris is also unpopular. . ."

I love how the prog media totally ignores the blatant fact that Harris was picked as life insurance for Joe, and everyone knows it. Being unpopular is literally her job.

Posted by: somedood at July 06, 2024 11:52 AM (yDVMy)

61 When will Dr Jill start physically abusing Joe
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 06, 2024 11:49 AM (JLq/1)


*ding ding*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 11:52 AM (jdHxK)

62 I'M STILL NOT GOING ANYWHERE, BUSTER!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at July 06, 2024 11:52 AM (uxCna)

63 Well, looks like the Marxist Left has their next attack on President Trump:

Epstein Docs Allege Trump Had Relations with Underage Girls

Unsealed documents related to Jeffrey Epstein have brought forth allegations against Donald Trump, accusing him of having sexual relations with underage girls. The allegations, reported by the U.K. press, have sparked significant discussion on social media, with many users expressing outrage and calling for more attention to these claims. The discussion also highlights a perceived lack of coverage by the U.S. media on this issue. The documents include claims by one of Epstein's alleged victims, Sarah Ransome, detailing these accusations against Trump. The conversation has been marked by a mix of shock, anger, and calls for accountability, with some users questioning the media's focus on other topics.

https://bit.ly/4bxQ60f

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 06, 2024 11:53 AM (P5BPp)

64 28 Here's what I'm perversely looking forward to.

Biden does not give in. He becomes the official Democratic nominee.

Then we get 'The Great Walkback!' The media steps back from the dementia stories, marvel at how much better Biden is, Joe recuperated from Long Covid and Biden Is Back Baby!

That's going to be fun.
Posted by: Stateless
=============
I don't know if the Biden crime family can back off. If Biden resigns, Kamala (who Biden has treated like crap and humiliated personally) might not issue the needed pardons. If Biden does it going out the door before resigning, fairly or not, the general public is going to attribute corruption to Kamala and it will destroy any traction whatsoever to casual voters about Trump being convicted.

Other than Kamala replacing Biden, then you get problematic as to ballot access, funding, etc. and ginning up a NATIONAL, not state campaign in a hurry. Biden's campaign team already is viewed as part of the problem so wholesale replacement introduces more angst etc. Plus, Kamala has a lot of rivals viewing themselves as potential prezzies like Whitmer and Newsom if not Buttplug.

A humorous pairing would be Kamala Buttplug ticket.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 11:53 AM (/0X3E)

65 Top headline at the daily mail--An Affair to Remember. Kumala and Willie

Posted by: Ben Had at July 06, 2024 11:53 AM (xpCR0)

66 Somebody on my social media published photos of Mayor Pete and Governor hair creme getting gussied up for the camera as the ideal running mate. Though that the Democrats were too dumb to run that pair.

Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 11:54 AM (rrtZS)

67 hat happens if Joe can't be forced out but kicks two weeks before the election. Specifically, what happens to all of the early votes cast for him at that time?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 06, 2024 11:47 AM (Dm8we)

What difference would it make either way?

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 06, 2024 11:54 AM (g8Ew8)

68 The orange skin tone makes Joe's slit eyes look even worse

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 06, 2024 11:55 AM (JLq/1)

69 33. No one, including DJT is going to save you if you don't take action yourself to do what you can do to change the system.
Posted by: whig

On point. Thank you, whig.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 06, 2024 11:55 AM (NFX2v)

70 She can find a much more satisfying career in the private sector hocking walk in showers to senior citizens.
Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 11:24 AM (1Yy3c)

She is only six years away from getting the seniors' discount herself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 11:56 AM (jEbF6)

71 RE Independence Day, I’ve just started watching Allen Guelzo’s “America’s Founding Fathers” on The Great Courses. I’m only two episodes in, but it looks great and very informative so far. Starting with Thomas Mifflin, the president of the Confederation Congress when Washington resigned his commission.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2024 11:56 AM (EXyHK)

72 I said on the ONT last night (I think it was) that DJT needs to stay quiet & remain in the background, in order to keep the voters' undivided attention on Biden's slow motion train wreck. This is a heaven-sent gift to Trump. He just needs to let it happen and watch.

And of course I got jumped! "No! Totally WRONG! You don't get it! He needs to fill football stadiums again right NOW! Because that energizes his supporters!"

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 11:56 AM (NLIak)

73 America's secure borders stand as a monument to Kneepad McRoundheel's 'competence'.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 11:50 AM (jdHxK)

Do not come. Do not come.

Posted by: VP Harris at July 06, 2024 11:56 AM (nJTSw)

74 I’m gonna come!

Posted by: DJT at July 06, 2024 11:56 AM (nJTSw)

75 Mister Scott. All about how she makes the women feel, they now feel empowered by just watching her. Good grief, feel empowered by your own accomplishments not that idiots. Everyone in this country needs to take an exam before being allowed to vote, basic US history and laws. It would weed out a lot of this nonsense from both sexes, of course it wouldn't reduce the voter rolls by at least 75%. And yes I'm a woman so I'm not being misogynistic.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 06, 2024 11:56 AM (2NHgQ)

76 Well, looks like the Marxist Left has their next attack on President Trump:

Epstein Docs Allege Trump Had Relations with Underage Girls


If there was any actual dirt against Trump in the Epstein Files, it would have been leaked in a millisecond.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 06, 2024 11:57 AM (uxCna)

77 And of course I got jumped! "No! Totally WRONG! You don't get it! He needs to fill football stadiums again right NOW! Because that energizes his supporters!"

Just bask in the glow of knowing you aren't an idiot.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2024 11:57 AM (xCA6C)

78 Top headline at the daily mail--An Affair to Remember. Kumala and Willie

Ha! I literally just watched the real An Affair to Remember last week with my dad!

I enjoyed it, but it was a very odd movie even given the stars involved.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2024 11:58 AM (EXyHK)

79 68 The orange skin tone makes Joe's slit eyes look even worse
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 06, 2024 11:55 AM (JLq/

He's more of a Taupe color... The new Taupe dope ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2024 11:58 AM (IyPmt)

80 If there was any actual dirt against Trump in the Epstein Files, it would have been leaked in a millisecond.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 06, 2024 11:57 AM (uxCna)



Yep. And nine years ago.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 11:58 AM (jdHxK)

81 6 Good Morning! Been wondering where I've been? Well, in the hospital for a few days. Went in because I had some symptoms that they say could indicate a heart attack in women. It wasn't a heart attack. But I had fluid around my right lung, and they drained much of it off.

Hope you are feeling better. I had similar symptoms developed last summer. SOB,chest pain and dry cough. Chest X-ray showed a L pleural effusion (fluid in lungs). With more testing the cause and then the treatment were identified. Meanwhile I’ve had that fluid drained 3 times. Still some there But feeling one hell of a lot better.

Posted by: Ex GOP at July 06, 2024 11:58 AM (GpUII)

82 My grandfather was hugely involved in politics on the local level, which inspired my father to run for office and win and be reelected many times.

When he moved to Chester County, Pennsylvania he contacted the (R) party and told them of his history. They said good, address these envelopes and then put stamps on them.

The 'good ol' boys' aren't too welcoming to new faces. Unless they have some grunt work to be done.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
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You go around them, plenty of local and state candidates welcome help directly but a lot of politics IS grunt work and no job should be viewed as beneath oneself regardless of credentials.

I've licked stamps, stacked and sorted mailers, been outside polling places with pamphlets, sat at booth at events, signed up voters and so on. Greet people at a cruddy empty storefront local campaign hq.

You do the work long enough as a volunteer (not a paid smarmy type looking for the next grift) and by and large you become known.

Then again, I grew up on a farm and am well used to shitty jobs growing up so licking envelopes doesn't bother me a bit nor cold calling missing voters election eve.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 11:59 AM (/0X3E)

83 75 Mister Scott. All about how she makes the women feel, they now feel empowered by just watching her. Good grief, feel empowered by your own accomplishments not that idiots. Everyone in this country needs to take an exam before being allowed to vote, basic US history and laws. It would weed out a lot of this nonsense from both sexes, of course it wouldn't reduce the voter rolls by at least 75%. And yes I'm a woman so I'm not being misogynistic.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 06, 2024 11:56 AM (2NHgQ)

YOU ARE A SELF-HATING WOMAN!!!

Posted by: Feminists at July 06, 2024 11:59 AM (nJTSw)

84 It's DNC dogma to accuse the opponent of sexcrime

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 12:00 PM (/7KEl)

85 Kamala delivers all the incoherence without those appalling freezes.

Posted by: DaveA at July 06, 2024 12:00 PM (PMJuY)

86 "If there was any actual dirt against Trump in the Epstein Files, it would have been leaked in a millisecond.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 06, 2024 11:57 AM (uxCna)"

Yeah but MSM narrative doesn't give a shit about that, and way too many voting age white chicks (sorry ladies) who should know better by now bend their entire reality around what the MSM/social media implies that *other* voting age white chicks believe, say, or find reprehensible.

Posted by: somedood at July 06, 2024 12:01 PM (yDVMy)

87 76 Well, looks like the Marxist Left has their next attack on President Trump:

Epstein Docs Allege Trump Had Relations with Underage Girls

If there was any actual dirt against Trump in the Epstein Files, it would have been leaked in a millisecond.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 06, 2024 11:57 AM (uxCna)

Didn't Trump testify against Epstein in the first trial ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2024 12:01 PM (IyPmt)

88 Second look at universal suffrage?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 12:01 PM (jdHxK)

89 Well, looks like the Marxist Left has their next attack on President Trump:

Epstein Docs Allege Trump Had Relations with Underage Girls

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Sounds like another "pee on the bed" story. Has the CIA confirmed it yet?

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 06, 2024 12:01 PM (g8Ew8)

90 somebody call Buttgig, tell him to spit out the ballgag and ditch the donkey costume, and do his job
Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 11:49 AM (/7KEl)

If you can find him.

The way I see it, Buttygig is proving that we don’t need a Dept of Transportation.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 12:02 PM (nJTSw)

91 The thing about irony is it's so ironic.

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
Pro-abortion Democrats march to “Born in the USA,” blissfully unaware of the searing irony.

https://is.gd/aszt7g
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 11:11 AM (

Some people also play it at pro American activities which is just as ironic.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 12:02 PM (SHMXB)

92 Kamala delivers all the incoherence without those appalling freezes.

There's a good link on Biden's incoherence and how it fits the needs of Democrats at Instapundit. Couldn't find it today.

Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 12:03 PM (rrtZS)

93 63
https://bit.ly/4bxQ60f
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 06, 2024

My understanding (which my iPad tried to make undertaker) is the documents only reveal some real estate transactions and nothing sordid. The girl who accused Trump was discredited and all the proof she said she had against Trump didn’t exist

. “ Ransome subsequently told the New York Post reporter, who did not publish any story related to the allegations, that she wanted to "retract everything I have said to you and walk away from this," according to an unsealed message from October 2016”

As to why they aren’t jumping on it? She said the very same things about Clinton.

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 12:03 PM (pRpzT)

94 Usually the October Surprise occurs in October

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 12:03 PM (/7KEl)

95 Sounds like another "pee on the bed" story. Has the CIA confirmed it yet?
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 06, 2024 12:01 PM (g8Ew


As we speak 51 IC grandees are being roused from their slumber so they can sign onto a joint declaration assuring the voters that this story is 100% true.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 12:03 PM (jdHxK)

96 Though that the Democrats were too dumb to run that pair.
Posted by: KT

You really can't overestimate the Dems stupidity.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 12:04 PM (pPOh9)

97 72 I said on the ONT last night (I think it was) that DJT needs to stay quiet & remain in the background, in order to keep the voters' undivided attention on Biden's slow motion train wreck. This is a heaven-sent gift to Trump. He just needs to let it happen and watch.

And of course I got jumped! "No! Totally WRONG! You don't get it! He needs to fill football stadiums again right NOW! Because that energizes his supporters!"
Posted by: mnw
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One of the reasons that kibitzers get jumped is you have presented no credentials as a political expert nor reasons why your political advise is useful or needed by the DJT team.

The campaign team has far more granular and better idea of what the different campaign electorates look like and most probably you are NOT the targeted audience. For Trump to win over the expected cheat, he is going for the low propensity voters (which worked in 2020 btw to the extent the cheat was rocketed to eleventy by the Dems to barely win) that basically dislike most the GOP officeholders as much as the Dems for being fake, lying, swarmy, grifting disgraces to humanity.

This is a referendum on the Dems in power less than it is about Trump this time.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:04 PM (/0X3E)

98
My short stint in local politics left such a bad taste in my mouth I didn't walk away I ran. Candidate 'A' I supported with a lot of time and effort. Wrote letters of support to local newspaper, took polls of voter attitudes, graphic arts stuff. Nice reward with a luncheon at a name real estate developers home - Skip and vmom would recognize the name. The Top Guy in this area.

Yeah, she embarrassed the hell out of me by looking to approve something that same real estate developer wanted which would have busted our zoning laws and led to massive overdevelopment in my little town. While having run successfully on a platform of just the opposite.

I'm not saying others shouldn't do what they can, but it's no Sunday picnic out there.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 12:04 PM (RKVpM)

99 As to why they aren’t jumping on it? She said the very same things about Clinton.

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 12:03 PM (pRpzT)

I believe it regarding Clinton

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2024 12:04 PM (IyPmt)

100 Some people also play it at pro American activities which is just as ironic.
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2024 12:02 PM (SHMXB)


Yep. CCR's Fortunate Son gets the same mis-application, for some reason.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 12:04 PM (jdHxK)

101 And of course I got jumped! "No! Totally WRONG! You don't get it! He needs to fill football stadiums again right NOW! Because that energizes his supporters!"
Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 11:56 AM (NLIak)

He has to present himself as a dynamic alternative to Comatose Joe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 12:04 PM (jEbF6)

102 76
'Epstein Docs Allege Trump Had Relations with Underage Girls

If there was any actual dirt against Trump in the Epstein Files, it would have been leaked in a millisecond.'

This will just be another ball of mud that only democrats care about. All this does is inoculate Trump against further attacks.
No one is taking democrats word for anything. The boy cried "wolf" one too many times.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2024 12:05 PM (3wi/L)

103 No one will stop the trillion dollar deficits.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at July 06, 2024 12:05 PM (UAE9D)

104 The best Independence Day quote is still from John Adams. Even if he was talking about July 2.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 12:05 PM (nJTSw)

105 Ex GOP at July 06, 2024 11:58 AM

Great news. The people who did that procedure at the hospital noted that they did several of them every day.

Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 12:05 PM (rrtZS)

106 Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

Posted by: Nappy B. at July 06, 2024 12:06 PM (xCA6C)

107 https://bit.ly/4bxQ60f
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 06, 2024 11:53 AM (P5BPp)

So what they're saying is even at the age of 78 Trump can still achieve and maintain an erection while Biden hasn't had a hard-on since 2006..

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 12:06 PM (1Yy3c)

108 Joe's people are striking back ! Article in the DM about how Kamala slept her way to the top !

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2024 12:07 PM (V13WU)

109
Trump had Epstein tossed out of Mar Lago when he started hitting on Trumps young female help. Permanent ban.

Bullshit story out of Britain is bullshit. But that's what they do.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 12:07 PM (RKVpM)

110 103 No one will stop the trillion dollar deficits.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at July 06, 2024 12:05 PM (UAE9D)

Because no one wants to. Although we should demand the same efficiency of government that we demand of Apple or Samsung but we don’t.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 12:07 PM (nJTSw)

111 Second look at universal suffrage?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2024 12:01 PM (jdHxK)

Do we really want those blobby green assholes from Alpha Centauri voting in our elections?

Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 12:08 PM (1Yy3c)

112 111
Do we really want those blobby green assholes from Alpha Centauri voting in our elections?
Posted by: Robert at July 06, 2024 12

Down with blobby green things!

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 12:08 PM (pRpzT)

113 Yeah but MSM narrative doesn't give a shit about that, and way too many voting age white chicks (sorry ladies) who should know better by now bend their entire reality around what the MSM/social media implies that *other* voting age white chicks believe, say, or find reprehensible.
Posted by: somedood
=====
Don't take counsel of your fears and the MSM is a dying and untrusted institution right down there with the GOP and Dems in general.

The MSM itself took a massive dump on its own credibility with the whole Biden dementia coverup that is now apparent to a huge number of semi engaged voters. The CNN record ratings mean that once that is seen, people have enough experience personally to know that they have been kept in the dark and fed manure over Biden's competency.

That is why the Dems are in a panic; their best ally (the MSM) just shot themselves in the head covering up dementia and all of a sudden, no one knows what the narrative is or should be.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:09 PM (/0X3E)

114 you think I am joking ??
"How Kamala Harris's affair with a much-older Democrat kingpin - now 90 - catapulted her career.."

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2024 12:10 PM (V13WU)

115 Do you have a favorite Independence Day quote?
=
"Welcome to Earth"

Posted by: Methos at July 06, 2024 12:10 PM (Dnobf)

116 Am I going to go do a weight class? Cardio? Ballet moves? Swim laps? Stay on this couch like an Alpha Centurian?

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 12:10 PM (pRpzT)

117 Down with blobby green things!

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 12:08 PM (pRpzT)

Hater! Bigot!

Posted by: Kang and Kodos at July 06, 2024 12:10 PM (23272)

118 Do you have a favorite Independence Day quote?

From my grandpa: "kid, that's an awful short fuse. I wouldn't hold that firecracker in your hand".

Posted by: Sock Monkey * navigating reality from the back seat at July 06, 2024 12:11 PM (kxq0/)

119 Vivek and DeSantis nail the whole debate affair and why it worked out as it did.
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Desantis has gotten a lot better at off the cuff discussion of issues. He wasn't able to do an answer like that in 2018.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:12 PM (5p7BC)

120 yeah major hit piece on kamala @ Daily Mail

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 12:14 PM (/7KEl)

121 Yeah, she embarrassed the hell out of me by looking to approve something that same real estate developer wanted which would have busted our zoning laws and led to massive overdevelopment in my little town. While having run successfully on a platform of just the opposite.

I'm not saying others shouldn't do what they can, but it's no Sunday picnic out there.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
=======
Nothing worthwhile ever is. Churches have ministers that are perverts, charities have embezzling thieves, and so on. No less than marriage, children, jobs, etc., you will always have risks that things turn out badly. Resilience to get back up after failure with sadly acquired knowledge is the ticket. I Get Knocked Down (But I Get Up Again) is a pretty good song and philosophy.

And yes, I have seen a candidate say one thing and do quite another. Never worked for the ass again and worked for an opponent the next election which took the pos out. Good times revenge as the POS outspent our candidate about ten to one and still lost.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:14 PM (/0X3E)

122 Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 11:53 AM (/0X3E)

Exactly. Biden can't walk away and no one close has any reason to stop him.

So Joe becomes the nominee. And we get to watch the media whores pretend the last two weeks didn't happen and Joe is amazing again.

Or else Trump gets in and this universe collapses in on itself or something...

Posted by: Stateless at July 06, 2024 12:14 PM (jvJvP)

123 We haven't got to October Surprise but we are at July Desperation

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 12:15 PM (fwDg9)

124 Watched both. I like Desantis better, sounded more genuine and less rehearsed.

Hate to say this, sounded more like Trump.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:16 PM (5p7BC)

125 "Don't take counsel of your fears and the MSM is a dying and untrusted institution right down there with the GOP and Dems in general.

The MSM itself took a massive dump on its own credibility with the whole Biden dementia coverup that is now apparent to a huge number of semi engaged voters. The CNN record ratings mean that once that is seen, people have enough experience personally to know that they have been kept in the dark and fed manure over Biden's competency.

That is why the Dems are in a panic; their best ally (the MSM) just shot themselves in the head covering up dementia and all of a sudden, no one knows what the narrative is or should be.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:09 PM (/0X3E)"

Oh, I think the progs have a fair chance of losing this one. I'm just pointing out that the actual facts of the matter or anyone's ability to infer them don't really amount to anything.

Posted by: somedood at July 06, 2024 12:16 PM (yDVMy)

126 The George Washington (era) dance video reminded me of the dance scene from Pride and Prejudice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgXYj_YqVvM

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at July 06, 2024 12:16 PM (2xB3Z)

127 Wait.

"Gay" used to be a perfectly good word, it didn't refer to homosexual in any way.

Why can't "Born In The USA" be re-purposed, then? I don't get it.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2024 12:16 PM (HHI2d)

128
That is why the Dems are in a panic; their best ally (the MSM) just shot themselves in the head covering up dementia and all of a sudden, no one knows what the narrative is or should be.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:09 PM (/0X3E)

The GOP knew Biden was demented, but went along for the ride, happy to be rid of Trump. They covered up the dementia just as the covered up the J6 show trials, the election fraud, and anything else that might shake the grift tree. To exclude their contribution is wrong.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 12:16 PM (2NXcZ)

129 More quotes from grandpa:

"Did ya learn anything kid"?

" Dang long haired hippy needs to take a bath and get a job".

" Kid, go find yerself a switch and meet me out behind the barn".

Posted by: Sock Monkey * navigating reality from the back seat at July 06, 2024 12:17 PM (kxq0/)

130 124 Watched both. I like Desantis better, sounded more genuine and less rehearsed.

Hate to say this, sounded more like Trump.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:16 PM (5p7BC)

Agreed.. Vivek is a bit too slick for me

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2024 12:17 PM (IyPmt)

131 I think Kamala would be a much bigger problem for Trump than Biden, but I'm an eeyore type.

Shes obviously deeply flawed, but so is our nominee.

Posted by: Highlander at July 06, 2024 12:17 PM (kRhM/)

132 131 I think Kamala would be a much bigger problem for Trump than Biden, but I'm an eeyore type.

Shes obviously deeply flawed, but so is our nominee.
Posted by: Highlander at July 06, 2024 12:17 PM (kRhM/)

Kamala is part of the cover up too.. She knew Biden was senile and lied

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2024 12:19 PM (IyPmt)

133 " Kid, go find yerself a switch and meet me out behind the barn".

Posted by: Sock Monkey * navigating reality from the back seat at July 06, 2024 12:17 PM (kxq0/)

That one is to small. Go get me a bigger one.

Posted by: Grandpa at July 06, 2024 12:19 PM (xcIvR)

134 132
Kamala is part of the cover up too.. She knew Biden was senile and lied
Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2024

She is the ultimate winner of the dead pool. Why wouldn’t she?

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 12:20 PM (pRpzT)

135
Kamala is part of the cover up too.. She knew Biden was senile and lied
Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2024 12:19 PM (IyPmt)

Nearly everyone in DC is part of the coverup. Only the freshman congresspeople might have not known at first, but then they did.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 12:20 PM (2NXcZ)

136 She is the ultimate winner of the dead pool. Why wouldn’t she?
Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 12:20 PM (pRpzT)

She could have invoked the 25th Amendment and become president..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2024 12:21 PM (IyPmt)

137
And yes, I have seen a candidate say one thing and do quite another. Never worked for the ass again and worked for an opponent the next election which took the pos out. Good times revenge as the POS outspent our candidate about ten to one and still lost.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:14 PM


Good for you. I basically withdrew support and never returned phone calls. I don't think she ran for reelection. The one issue I was concerned about all the people in the town had the same feeling - limit growth. 40% of the town has now been set aside to never be developed and my property is safe.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 12:21 PM (RKVpM)

138 The only reason I'm self hating is eating the last 4 Tate's cookies yesterday. I have zero patience with women who only see the female side of it and not the body of actual work. I'm the first woman in my family to earn a college degree, waited til the right man came along and married him at the ripe old age of 45. He respected me for my work ethic, my sense of humor and I believe my common sense. I'm no beauty but he saw other things in me than the superficial. We have a great marriage, he does wish I was a bit more sentimental, however he takes up that slack for me. He's an old softy.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 06, 2024 12:21 PM (2NHgQ)

139 What was I gonna whoop you for again?

kid. "I did so and so."

Shut up kid. Never tell on yourself. Let's go get some ice cream.

Posted by: Grandpa at July 06, 2024 12:23 PM (xcIvR)

140 110 103 No one will stop the trillion dollar deficits.

Posted by: Not voting our way out
======
The bond market will sooner or later. When the US can no longer borrow money at affordable rates, then massive cuts will happen either via direct repudiation (haircut) etc. or interest consuming the entire budget.

Biden actually severely damaged the existing fiscal cushion from the US being a reserve currency because of Ukraine which in turn reduces the demand for dollars abroad and hikes inflation domestically.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:23 PM (/0X3E)

141 Re. Whitler being a "stronk whammen role model" *eyeroll* ... where is AtC's rant I Am Not My ****?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 12:24 PM (llON8)

142 Does FJB has some form of Parkinson disease? This article makes the case. Regardless, the guy is experiencing obvious steep physical and cognitive decline the demands he be removed from the race. Personally I would prefer he stay in the race until the election as the should ensure the D's getting slaughtered.

https://tinyurl.com/5ht6hfc5

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 06, 2024 12:24 PM (RUmyk)

143 No, the 25th is another labyrinth. I bet the Wiki link broke on debate night, ha!

Involuntary 25th has never been tried. Safe, and effective? Well who knows. Joe can deny it, say "I'm fine, really, thanks" and then it has to go to Congress. They have 21 days to vote on it. Both houses, and 2/3rds majority to remove Biden. If they don't do anything in 21 days, Joe gets his job back. The 25th is an "acting" position, not actual presidency, in some cases, it appears, and some cases not.

Harris has already been president, technically speaking, for a few hours when Joe was put under anesthesia.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2024 12:25 PM (HHI2d)

144 Joy Reid last night:

"I'd vote for Biden in a coma to keep Hitler out of the White House."

Nice, huh? And she's still got her gig.

Obviously there's an audience out there who appreciates insights of this sort.

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 12:25 PM (NLIak)

145 Come on people, time to give Kamala that PUSH.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2024 12:26 PM (q2sRE)

146 Why would the Ho not cover up that gravy train?
If anything she hoping for a faster demise like I am

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 12:26 PM (fwDg9)

147 Watching Nefarious- it's mainly two guys talking but it's really gripping, imo.
No CGI.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 06, 2024 12:26 PM (Ka3bZ)

148 136 She is the ultimate winner of the dead pool. Why wouldn’t she?
Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 12:20 PM (pRpzT)

She could have invoked the 25th Amendment and become president..
Posted by: It's me donna at July 06

She would be looked at as a traitor. If he dies, she is sympathetic and President. Remember, we aren’t speaking about the upper echelons of morality here.

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 12:27 PM (pRpzT)

149 Obviously there's an audience out there who appreciates insights of this sort.

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 12:25 PM (NLIak)

The same people who still believe in open borders as long as the migrants don't come to their neigborhood.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 12:27 PM (2NXcZ)

150 Besides being incoherent in some of her speeches as well as an inappropriate cackler, isn't Kamala by report a mean person and had numerous people on her staff who disliked her, felt that she was abusive and resigned? Sounds like a great choice for President.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2024 12:27 PM (G8YPt)

151 131 I think Kamala would be a much bigger problem for Trump than Biden, but I'm an eeyore type.

Shes obviously deeply flawed, but so is our nominee.
Posted by: Highlander
------
This is not a personality election but more a referendum on the Dems. That is why even Mooch is not polling well enough to jump into the race at this point. Right now, all the Dems candidates are losing to Trump by about the same margins.

We are seeing that basically in country after country, it is more a desire for the voters for change from the crap fed to them by WEF globalists regardless of party. NetZero is and was a stupid policy that enriches the wealthy and impoverishes the general population. Ditto for mass immigration from poor countries. Ditto for shipping money abroad to be wasted in Ukraine. Ditto for Gaza and so on. Muslim immigrants ain't our friends, lots of criminals in those young male immigrants seeking new lands to conquer, and so on.

It is going to be messy, unpleasant, and the debate will NOT revolve around the trivialities that the Globalists WEF uniparty want.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:29 PM (/0X3E)

152 There is an incredible video going viral right now.

Biden is doing to meet and greet for all of his fans behind him.

Takes selfie with the white guy.

Completely passes by and ignores the black girl.

Spends tons of time hugging and kissing the two white women next to her.

The face on this black girl is unreal, she was so totally dissed and she is in disbelief.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:30 PM (5p7BC)

153 Does FJB has some form of Parkinson disease? This article makes the case. Regardless, the guy is experiencing obvious steep physical and cognitive decline the demands he be removed from the race. Personally I would prefer he stay in the race until the election as the should ensure the D's getting slaughtered.

https://tinyurl.com/5ht6hfc5
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 06, 2024 12:24 PM (RUmyk)

Parkinson's doesn't cause dementia. Affects the brain's ability to control voluntary muscle movement. My mother had it. Biden is suffering Alzheimers or senile dementia.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 12:30 PM (jEbF6)

154 150 Fen

Yes, he's had more staff turnover than a line company on the Somme.

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 12:30 PM (NLIak)

155 >>> 151
==
It is going to be messy, unpleasant, and the debate will NOT revolve around the trivialities that the Globalists WEF uniparty want.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:29 PM (/0X3E)

I have a dream, that someday *all* the WEFtards will be on the run and have to hide wherever they can, maybe in a stinky dusty pit like Saddam, where they will be found anyway.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 12:31 PM (llON8)

156 Another dem publicly calling on Biden to step down. I wonder if Kamala is pushing this, hence the “don’t forget she was a ho” story on Daily Mail. That seems like such a Hunter move.

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2024 12:31 PM (pRpzT)

157 As usual, I’m working this weekend.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2024 12:31 PM (o2ZRX)

158 That one is to small. Go get me a bigger one.
Posted by: Grandpa

Learned quickly to not make that mistake.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * navigating reality from the back seat at July 06, 2024 12:31 PM (kxq0/)

159 Obviously the black girl in question was not clean, articulate, or the right age,

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2024 12:31 PM (q2sRE)

160 Smart take from Tacky Takei . . .

George Takei
@GeorgeTakei
If you think a nightmarish, unconstitutional round up of innocent people, merely suspected of being enemies of the state, can’t happen in the U.S., then you’re forgetting that it already has.
I was among them, along with my entire family and community.

-
And this is why Democrats should never be allowed power again.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 12:31 PM (L/fGl)

161 159 Obviously the black girl in question was not clean, articulate, or the right age,
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2024 12:31 PM (q2sRE)

Or he thought she was a caregiver and only there to wipe ass.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 12:32 PM (2NXcZ)

162 >>> 152 There is an incredible video going viral right now.

Biden is doing to meet and greet for all of his fans behind him.

Takes selfie with the white guy.

Completely passes by and ignores the black girl.

Spends tons of time hugging and kissing the two white women next to her.

The face on this black girl is unreal, she was so totally dissed and she is in disbelief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:30 PM (5p7BC)

Link pretty please?

(Tell us how RAYCISS! Trump is again, presstitutes...)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 12:32 PM (llON8)

163 150 Besides being incoherent in some of her speeches as well as an inappropriate cackler, isn't Kamala by report a mean person and had numerous people on her staff who disliked her, felt that she was abusive and resigned? Sounds like a great choice for President.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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SanFranPsycho, I believe had some dealings with her on the San Francisco local level when getting started. But, Kamala has a pattern of lots of aides leaving her various offices and not particularly speaking well of her. Apparently vindictive and blames her staffers for her own personal failings.

Stories have been around for years about the turmoil in her office and part of the bad blood between her and Biden is that Biden (or Jill) purposefully put Kamala as the point person for losing projects and leaked info to the DC political info circuit about her mismanagement of the VP office and poor political skills.

No love lost there.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:32 PM (/0X3E)

164 I don't think I've ever seen this before.

The RCP average is now composed 100% from polls taken post debate.

Trump leads in all 11 of them.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:33 PM (5p7BC)

165
Parkinson's doesn't cause dementia. Affects the brain's ability to control voluntary muscle movement. My mother had it. Biden is suffering Alzheimers or senile dementia.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 12:30 PM


I think he can have both simultaneously. On a long enough timeline a lot of medicines are associated with Parkinson's. Both of my wife's parents had it in their 80's after decades of taking 'happy pills'.

Who knows what Biden has been taking for decades.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 12:33 PM (RKVpM)

166 I have a dream, that someday *all* the WEFtards will be on the run and have to hide wherever they can, maybe in a stinky dusty pit like Saddam, where they will be found anyway.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
=========
Countries will have to kill transnational corporations via regulatory death of a thousand cuts for that to be done. Oligarchs are going be be limited in reach to doing damage only to their own countries, not others.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:34 PM (/0X3E)

167 The Ho was the first to drop out in 2020 presidential race

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 12:35 PM (fwDg9)

168 What was I gonna whoop you for again?

kid. "I did so and so."

Shut up kid. Never tell on yourself. Let's go get some ice cream.
Posted by: Grandpa

Most often it was, go grab some worms out of the barrel, grab yer pole and lets go catch dinner.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * navigating reality from the back seat at July 06, 2024 12:35 PM (kxq0/)

169 Puttering outside but has to be in high 90s, was 91 around 9am

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 12:35 PM (fwDg9)

170 DC NATO summit is July 9-11...should be entertaining !

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2024 12:36 PM (V13WU)

171 Can't easily pull up a link, but if you go on X it is making the rounds.

Monica Crowley just posted it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:37 PM (5p7BC)

172 162
'Biden is doing to meet and greet for all of his fans behind him.

Takes selfie with the white guy.

Completely passes by and ignores the black girl.'


Sen. Byrd told me I didn't have to because LBJ made sure they'd always vote democrat anyway.

Posted by: F. Joe Biden at July 06, 2024 12:37 PM (3wi/L)

173 Countries will have to kill transnational corporations via regulatory death of a thousand cuts for that to be done. Oligarchs are going be be limited in reach to doing damage only to their own countries, not others.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:34 PM (/0X3E)

As oligarchs were largely responsible for forced vax and vax passports, and covered for fauci's bioweapon, Nuremberg 2.0 could help neutralize them and relieve the families of all the cash as compensation.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 12:37 PM (2NXcZ)

174 NATO summit in July?

Hope the AC holds up.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2024 12:37 PM (q2sRE)

175 The face on this black girl is unreal, she was so totally dissed and she is in disbelief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

https://is.gd/1n06Bw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 12:37 PM (L/fGl)

176 I think he can have both simultaneously. On a long enough timeline a lot of medicines are associated with Parkinson's. Both of my wife's parents had it in their 80's after decades of taking 'happy pills'.

Who knows what Biden has been taking for decades.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 12:33 PM (RKVpM)

Oh, he might have both, but Parkinsons is not, on its own, necessarily a disqualifier for an office holder. A Parkinsons patient can still be sharp mentally, not that Biden ever was.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 12:38 PM (jEbF6)

177
Puttering outside but has to be in high 90s, was 91 around 9am

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 12:35 PM


Just checked, 93 here. Gonna have to water some stuff for the second time today soon.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 12:38 PM (RKVpM)

178 Parkinson's doesn't cause dementia. Affects the brain's ability to control voluntary muscle movement. My mother had it. Biden is suffering Alzheimers or senile dementia.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Due to my mother's condition (who is actually better shape speaking and reasoning if not memory), I am guessing a combination of vascular dementia (old timey hardening of the arteries diagnosis) and Alzheimers. Joe has already had brain damage due to his past two brain aneurysms and that leave a mark.

FWIW, intemperate anger is often more common with vascular than Alzheimers.

My mother is being treated by an excellent university medical hospital institute that specializes in adult dementia and aging and she has pretty much had all the tests. Spent a fair amount of time with the doctors discussing the issues and likewise seeing my mother interact with others at her memory care facility.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:38 PM (/0X3E)

179 175 The face on this black girl is unreal, she was so totally dissed and she is in disbelief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

https://is.gd/1n06Bw
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 12:37 PM (L/fGl)
----
The Biden team will probably make things right in the form of cold hard cash (on the QT of course).

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at July 06, 2024 12:39 PM (2xB3Z)

180 >>Under normal circumstances, Plan B would be the vice president


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE VICE PRESIDENT'S PRIMARY FUNCTION IS TO BE THE "PLAN B" UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 06, 2024 12:40 PM (+oRno)

181 She is only six years away from getting the seniors' discount herself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 11:56 AM (jEbF6)

I got a senior discount at a restaurant without asking for it. That's sad.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 06, 2024 12:41 PM (w6EFb)

182 George Takei
@GeorgeTakei
If you think a nightmarish, unconstitutional round up of innocent people, merely suspected of being enemies of the state, can’t happen in the U.S., then you’re forgetting that it already has.
I was among them, along with my entire family and community.

-
And this is why Democrats should never be allowed power again.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 12:31 PM (L/fGl)
***

Exactly. Get a clue George.
And there nothing worse than a has been actor desperate for relevance.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2024 12:42 PM (W/lyH)

183 176 I think he can have both simultaneously. On a long enough timeline a lot of medicines are associated with Parkinson's. Both of my wife's parents had it in their 80's after decades of taking 'happy pills'.

Who knows what Biden has been taking for decades.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

My father in law was misdiagnosed by a quack as having Parkinsons but really due to a particular heart medication side effect. Mis treatment of a non Parkison's patient with Parkinson drugs made matters much worse over the couple of months for my fil and simulated dementia for him. Fortunately we brought him to our locale and sent him to specialists that correctly diagnosed him and changed his heart meds to avoid the issue. He lived a couple of more years and never showed the signs of dementia or Parkinsons. Multiple myeloma leading to a heart attack got him.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:42 PM (/0X3E)

184 164 Dave

Good catch.

Speaking of unpopular posts, here's one of my greatest hits. Summary only. What do you think?

Why the DEMs can't steal AZ this time:

Biden's margin of victory in AZ in 2020 was 10400 votes. In the RCP avg of all AZ polls yesterday, Trump was ahead by 6 points. Assuming the exact same turnout in 2024 as in 2020, i.e., about 3.3 million total votes, the DEMs would need to steal 200000 votes just to get to 50%. Fraud on THAT scale is a fantasy, imo.

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 12:42 PM (NLIak)

185 @180 all caps is an unfortunate side effect of the unfreezing process.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at July 06, 2024 12:43 PM (2xB3Z)

186 >>The face on this black girl is unreal, she was so totally dissed and she is in disbelief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

https://is.gd/1n06Bw
- - - -
Wow, he totally snubbed her!
And the earrings on that Karen - yuge, red ovaries?
What is wrong with women that are so obsessed with (I assume) 'reproductive rights'??!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 12:43 PM (+oRno)

187 As oligarchs were largely responsible for forced vax and vax passports, and covered for fauci's bioweapon, Nuremberg 2.0 could help neutralize them and relieve the families of all the cash as compensation.
Posted by: enough BS
=========
I would include the various oligarchs pushing Net Zero as well and Pritzker family for financing trans for kids as well.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:44 PM (/0X3E)

188
The face on this black girl is unreal, she was so totally dissed and she is in disbelief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

https://is.gd/1n06Bw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 12:37 PM


Thanks for link. Will it effect black women's votes? I'd like to think so. But I'm a realist.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 12:44 PM (RKVpM)

189 the DEMs would need to steal 200000 votes just to get to 50%. Fraud on THAT scale is a fantasy, imo.
Posted by: mnw

AZ Gope: let me hold that beer for you.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 06, 2024 12:44 PM (pPOh9)

190 CNN is so far off the reservation. I'm suspecting Biden will send F-16s into Atlanta soon.

CNN interviewed two radio hosts that did interviews with Biden after the debate. Biden campaign is touting these interviews as proof he is fine.

Turns out the campaign sent the hosts a list of 8 questions, and they had to choose 4 from the list, and tell the campaign which they would ask.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:44 PM (5p7BC)

191 KT sorry to hear you were in the hospital. Same thing happened to me. Fluid around my right lung. They drained a liter of it out of me! I could barely breathe so I can relate. Hope they can find the cause of the fluid build up.

Posted by: jewells45fuckcancer at July 06, 2024 12:45 PM (iF0sF)

192 179 175 'The face on this black girl is unreal, she was so totally dissed and she is in disbelief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

https://is.gd/1n06Bw'

I laughed but then felt bad about it because the girl was obviously crushed,

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2024 12:45 PM (3wi/L)

193 182 George Takei
@GeorgeTakei
If you think a nightmarish, unconstitutional round up of innocent people, merely suspected of being enemies of the state, can’t happen in the U.S., then you’re forgetting that it already has.
I was among them, along with my entire family and community.

----
Jan 6 prisoners? HELLO! MCFLY! DON'T BE SO GULLIBLE MCFLY.

Posted by: Biff Tannen at July 06, 2024 12:46 PM (2xB3Z)

194 >>@GeorgeTakei
If you think a nightmarish, unconstitutional round up of innocent people, merely suspected of being enemies of the state, can’t happen in the U.S., then you’re forgetting that it already has.
I was among them, along with my entire family and community.



"I know, right? Sometimes it's easier to not round them up, though. . ."
-- Lon Horiuchi

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2024 12:46 PM (+oRno)

195 White boy dreds, who'd a thought it.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 06, 2024 12:47 PM (4780s)

196 White boy dreds?

John Travolta making a sequel to Battlefield Earth?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2024 12:48 PM (q2sRE)

197 191 Hi, jewells

Good to hear from you & see you posting!

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 12:48 PM (NLIak)

198
Joy Reid last night:

"I'd vote for Biden in a coma to keep Hitler out of the White House."


And ANYTHING is acceptable in the destruction of Hitler.
Even going back in a time machine to kill baby Hitler.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2024 12:48 PM (63Dwl)

199 164 I don't think I've ever seen this before.

The RCP average is now composed 100% from polls taken post debate.

Trump leads in all 11 of them.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Dave in Fla,
Incumbent governments are losing elections across the West or languishing in unpopularity like in Australia and Germany.

What we are seeing is that the WEF/Global uniparty agenda is universally unpopular whether pushed by Tories, Social Democrats (Germany), Labor (Australia), Liberals (Canada), or Macron's so called centrists in France.

This election, unlike a lot of others in the past is more in line with the general population turning on those pushing mass immigration, useless wars like Ukraine, pervert worship, Covid Public Health tyranny, and Net Zero/Green Nude Eels. The dogs ain't eating the dog food and I think the oligarchs are beginning to get uncomfortable. They have the money but not the boots on the ground.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:49 PM (/0X3E)

200 AW that's funny

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 12:49 PM (fwDg9)

201 @198 or go back in time to convince Hitler's parents he's a trans girl.

Posted by: Biff Tannen at July 06, 2024 12:50 PM (2xB3Z)

202
Biden's margin of victory in AZ in 2020 was 10400 votes. In the RCP avg of all AZ polls yesterday, Trump was ahead by 6 points. Assuming the exact same turnout in 2024 as in 2020, i.e., about 3.3 million total votes, the DEMs would need to steal 200000 votes just to get to 50%. Fraud on THAT scale is a fantasy, imo.
Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 12:42 PM (NLIak

Oh, gosh, the water pipes all broke at every polling place except for those in Maricopa County. We will only have those votes to count then. Well, whaddya know, AZ goes to Biden!

Posted by: The Party at July 06, 2024 12:50 PM (lrEMD)

203 192 179 175 'The face on this black girl is unreal, she was so totally dissed and she is in disbelief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

https://is.gd/1n06Bw'

I laughed but then felt bad about it because the girl was obviously crushed,


Trump needs to call the young woman up, and listen to her. And invite her to his next rally. Put her front and center.

Play those two images on a split screen.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 06, 2024 12:50 PM (81wK+)

204 Actually bigger than that mnw.

In 2020 they were able to cheat Lake out of a 2% lead in a turnout that is half what you see in a Presidential year. About 70K votes worth of fraud.

Trump's lead is 5 times larger and the electorate will be 50% bigger.

Back of the envelope, they need from 600-900K of fake votes to overcome Trump's lead, if election was today.

It doesn't look like the Dems are even bothering to fight for AZ. They are focused on trying to hold the blue wall.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:51 PM (5p7BC)

205 Frauline Adolpha mit funny mustache?

Hey Mel Brooks...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2024 12:51 PM (q2sRE)

206 Elena Ceausescu was a functioning illiterate who was Romania's top scientist. The Purple Witch was an elementary school graduate, and the the DDR's chief of education.

And now we have DOCTOR Jill. It always whymes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2024 12:51 PM (0FoWg)

207 As said above, read Frontpage Mag on what they are doing to Bannon

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 12:51 PM (fwDg9)

208 Polls are unreliable. So why dont we just ho ahead and hold the election, just in case?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 12:52 PM (lrEMD)

209 Nurse - That would be a brilliant idea

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:53 PM (5p7BC)

210 192 179 175 'The face on this black girl is unreal, she was so totally dissed and she is in disbelief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

https://is.gd/1n06Bw'

I laughed but then felt bad about it because the girl was obviously crushed,
Posted by: Dr. Claw
---------------
Same, Dr. Claw. Kid has her politics wrong but what a jerk move by Biden.

Posted by: scampydog at July 06, 2024 12:53 PM (41CYW)

211 138 The only reason I'm self hating is eating the last 4 Tate's cookies yesterday. I have zero patience with women who only see the female side of it and not the body of actual work. I'm the first woman in my family to earn a college degree, waited til the right man came along and married him at the ripe old age of 45. He respected me for my work ethic, my sense of humor and I believe my common sense. I'm no beauty but he saw other things in me than the superficial. We have a great marriage, he does wish I was a bit more sentimental, however he takes up that slack for me. He's an old softy.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
====
You should be proud of your accomplishments. A good wife like you is worth far more than rubies as the saying goes.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:54 PM (/0X3E)

212 Trump needs to call the young woman up, and listen to her. And invite her to his next rally. Put her front and center.

Play those two images on a split screen.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 06, 2024 12:50 PM (81wK+)

Excellent idea, Nurse!

Trump is actually scary good at retail politics.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 12:55 PM (EET1b)

213 *always rhymes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2024 12:55 PM (0FoWg)

214 >>> 175 The face on this black girl is unreal, she was so totally dissed and she is in disbelief.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

https://is.gd/1n06Bw
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 12:37 PM (L/fGl)

Wow.

Gotta love the uterus earrings the second AWFL is wearing... even better is someone in the background with a t-shirt 'No Hate In My State'.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 12:55 PM (llON8)

215 AZ passed a law after 2022 requiring that voters show proof of citizenship. This was a response to suspicions of fraud. The law survived a challenge in federal court already. However a state lower court judge enjoined it earlier this week. We'll see.

I think the new law indicates that things DO change for the better sometimes, fraud-wise.

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 12:56 PM (NLIak)

216
Trump needs to call the young woman up, and listen to her. And invite her to his next rally. Put her front and center.

Play those two images on a split screen.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 06, 2024 12:50 PM


Good idea. Signed MAGA hat too. They have to be worth some coin.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 12:57 PM (RKVpM)

217 I laughed but then felt bad about it because the girl was obviously crushed,
Posted by: Dr. Claw
---------------
Same, Dr. Claw. Kid has her politics wrong but what a jerk move by Biden.
Posted by: scampydog
======
Betcha DJT would not have treated her that way.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:57 PM (/0X3E)

218 >>> 212 Trump needs to call the young woman up, and listen to her. And invite her to his next rally. Put her front and center.

Play those two images on a split screen.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 06, 2024 12:50 PM (81wK+)

Excellent idea, Nurse!

Trump is actually scary good at retail politics.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 12:55 PM (EET1b)

YES please.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 12:57 PM (llON8)

219 nurse I really like that idea

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 12:57 PM (fwDg9)

220 If you thought A. Hitler was bad wait till you get a load of She Hitler!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2024 12:57 PM (63Dwl)

221 Thanks whig.
Any word from lousagirl? Should add her to the prayer list since her hubby passed away a few eeks ago. She stopped by on an ont this week and she's really hurting.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 06, 2024 12:57 PM (2NHgQ)

222 I would include the various oligarchs pushing Net Zero as well and Pritzker family for financing trans for kids as well.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 12:44 PM (/0X3E)

Pritzker definitely falls under Nuremberg 2.0 as these young people have no ability to understand the permanence of these choices or the smiling lies about "transitions". In a civilized society the perps would hang, but we haven't been civilized in quite a while.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 12:57 PM (2NXcZ)

223 Thanks, guys.

I could see Trump doing it too. He wouldn't even need to say anything in the ad.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 06, 2024 12:58 PM (81wK+)

224 As we speak 51 IC grandees are being roused from their slumber so they can sign onto a joint declaration assuring the voters that this story is 100% true.
Posted by: Cicero


They fooled us last time. Maybe we should get 53 or 54 intelligence experts this time.

Posted by: mikeski at July 06, 2024 12:59 PM (DgGvY)

225 I wonder if she'll still vote for the old basterd

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 12:59 PM (/7KEl)

226 217
'Betcha DJT would not have treated her that way.'

I don't think so either. Besides being more compassionate, Trump isn't a stupid asshole.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2024 12:59 PM (3wi/L)

227 Oh this is bad ass.

Scott Pressler moved to PA to register voters there. He has been getting people from all over to come to PA to help.

One guy drove from New York to Bucks County, and registered a new Republican outside the Newsom event.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 12:59 PM (5p7BC)

228
Gotta love the uterus earrings the second AWFL is wearing... even better is someone in the background with a t-shirt 'No Hate In My State'.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket


No foo like a yung fu.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2024 12:59 PM (63Dwl)

229 Trump is actually scary good at retail politics.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Trump actually likes people from what I've seen. Clinton was also an excellent retail politician as was Reagan. Carter was pretty good also in 1976. Personal encounters with the last three guys.

Only seen Trump personally work the room at an NRA convention.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 01:00 PM (/0X3E)

230 That vid of the spud passing by the young girl sure sums up the dem playbook for 2024. Don't worry about the black vote since we already own it, go for the abortion vote. Delusional people and evil.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 06, 2024 01:00 PM (2NHgQ)

231 I wonder if she'll still vote for the old basterd
Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2024 12:59 PM (/7KEl)

She was motivated to be there. If the motivation was pay, she wasn't going to vote for him in the first place. If it was genuine enthusiasm for Brandon, then at this point, he couldn't dissuade her if he stunned her with a cattle prod on the way by.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2024 01:01 PM (0FoWg)

232 Any word from lousagirl? Should add her to the prayer list since her hubby passed away a few eeks ago. She stopped by on an ont this week and she's really hurting.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
======
Read that. Several ONT commenters offered their personal emails in their NICs to her. Dunno if she took them up on it.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 01:01 PM (/0X3E)

233 All the LIVs know is she's a Democrat, the VP, and a Woman of Color.

More than enough to be plausible as a winner against the bad orange man.

The coming Cheat will dwarf 2020.

Posted by: davidt at July 06, 2024 01:02 PM (SYTee)

234 204 Dave

RE: AZ

Thanks.

I used static analysis just to be ultra cautious. Because... whenever I post that that level of fraud is impossible, I get carpet-bombed into oblivion, usually.

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 01:02 PM (NLIak)

235 The coming Cheat will dwarf 2020.
Posted by: davidt at July 06, 2024 01:02 PM (SYTee)

I agree and they will not hesitate to use deadly force as it worked on J6

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 01:03 PM (2NXcZ)

236 Polls are unreliable. So why dont we just ho ahead and hold the election, just in case?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33


So Kamala is the nominee?

Posted by: mikeski at July 06, 2024 01:03 PM (DgGvY)

237 So Kamala is the nominee?
Posted by: mikeski at July 06, 2024 01:03 PM (DgGvY

The nominee is a cut-out figure, Mayorkas, Garland and Obama are the real triumvirate.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 01:05 PM (2NXcZ)

238 The Trump campaign needs to update the Clinton 3 a.m. phone call ad to 8:30 p.m., with Biden tucked into bed and Harris chuckling into the phone as the caller tells her the Russians have launched a nuclear attack.

THAT will help her.

Posted by: p-squared at July 06, 2024 01:06 PM (i3SWt)

239 If you thought A. Hitler was bad wait till you get a load of She Hitler!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Or Shitler for short.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 01:06 PM (L/fGl)

240 >>> 234 204 Dave

RE: AZ

Thanks.

I used static analysis just to be ultra cautious. Because... whenever I post that that level of fraud is impossible, I get carpet-bombed into oblivion, usually.
Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 01:02 PM (NLIak)

Honest question, not trying to bomb but why do you think any level of fraud is impossible? Sure it will look absolutely ridiculous if Brandon receives a half-billion votes ballots but what prevents this from being claimed? When we get reports of 300 votes from a box that holds maybe 50, districts voting ~125% of their entire *population*, and the courts refusing to hear cases before, during, and after...?

Note, this does *not* mean there couldn't be ... consequences ... for such insanity, but that's not *prevention*.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 01:06 PM (llON8)

241 The most rabid person right now trying to find more evidence that Biden is senile...

Brian Stelter.

I don't think I have enough popcorn in the house.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 01:06 PM (5p7BC)

242 235 The coming Cheat will dwarf 2020.
Posted by: davidt at July 06, 2024 01:02 PM (SYTee)

I agree and they will not hesitate to use deadly force as it worked on J6
Posted by: enough BS

The electoral map is widening so that the swing states in 2020 are not the same as 2024. Essentially, even the military Feebs, etc. start quailing to defend a horrible old dementia patient and the actual Commies in government (unlike those in the 1900's) don't get their hands dirty with actual work--they just try to blather, issue impotent threats, etc.

Gamma personalities basically that lack the courage of their convictions. They rely on others to do their dirty work and the others just might not be amenable this time.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 01:07 PM (/0X3E)

243 Imagine the Trump campaign interviewing that young black woman. Ask her why she was so excited to meet Brandon.

Show the clip of him ignoring her.

Then Trump calls her. Invites her to sit down so he can listen to her. He listens to her goals and her dreams. He asks her how he can help.

She complains about the plight of black people. Trump explains how black unemployment was at its lowest in history under his administration. She complains about black incarceration. He points out his working with Kim Kardashian to rectify some sentences. She complains about opportunity. He offered her a job.

Then show her at a Trump rally wearing a MAGA hat.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 06, 2024 01:08 PM (81wK+)

244 >>> 241 The most rabid person right now trying to find more evidence that Biden is senile...

Brian Stelter.

I don't think I have enough popcorn in the house.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 01:06 PM (5p7BC)

LOL

Tater vs Spud 2024!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 01:08 PM (llON8)

245 Oh no!! Posted on the wrong the wrong thread, so here goes again.
Thanks for the thread K.T. Best wishes for a complete recovery and a happy summer.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 06, 2024 01:08 PM (qxlax)

246 Who lives in a bubble deep in DC?
Spongebrain Shitpants!
Demented and corrupted as he sure can be?
Spongebrain Shitpants!
So if chaos, confusion, and war you do wish,
Spongebrain Shitpants!
Hold your nose tightly and vote for the bitch!
Spongebrain Shitpants!
Spongebrain Shitpants!
Spongebrain!
Shitpants!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 06, 2024 01:08 PM (L/fGl)

247 Steve Bannon for VP!!!

Posted by: pawn at July 06, 2024 01:09 PM (QB+5g)

248 241. You mean he's trying to obscure evidence. The Parkinson's doctor is only a ploy to say "his body is failing him, but the brain is completely fine". This is self defeating as the side effects of Levodopa include cognitive impairments.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 01:10 PM (2NXcZ)

249 Gamma personalities basically that lack the courage of their convictions. They rely on others to do their dirty work and the others just might not be amenable this time.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 01:07 PM (/0X3E)


Herds need time to settle on a new bellwether before they are united. What is going on now, I suspect, is a speed-sorting to get that, and not every possibility is cooperating.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 01:10 PM (D7oie)

250 When you are holed below the waterline, counter-flooding will rarely save you.

Posted by: The Imperial Japanese Navy at July 06, 2024 01:11 PM (23272)

251 Re. Whitler being a "stronk whammen role model" *eyeroll* ... where is AtC's rant I Am Not My ****?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2024 12:24 PM (llON

I actually downloaded AtC's excellent rant. It was epic! I'll need to check my other drives.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at July 06, 2024 01:11 PM (iODuv)

252 247 Steve Bannon for VP!!!
Posted by: pawn at July 06, 2024 01:09 PM (QB+5g)

Amazing how much the GOP is ignoring this situation. In. On. It.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 01:11 PM (2NXcZ)

253 Honest question, not trying to bomb but why do you think any level of fraud is impossible? Sure it will look absolutely ridiculous if Brandon receives a half-billion votes ballots but what prevents this from being claimed? When we get reports of 300 votes from a box that holds maybe 50, districts voting ~125% of their entire *population*, and the courts refusing to hear cases before, during, and after...?

Note, this does *not* mean there couldn't be ... consequences ... for such insanity, but that's not *prevention*.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
========
The goal is prevention first and also putting a lot of these local jurisdictions under court injunctions in the first place such as mandating access to election judges, etc. That way, the enforcement is semi automatic. The other is massive cheats are only possible with bloated registration rolls and mail in ballots. A lot of non partisan voter integrity groups are involved in cleansing the registration rolls of dead, moved, ineligible, and nonexistent voters in fake addresses right now via motor voter lawsuits and finally the RNC is giving them aid in court. I can go on but gray box limits.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 01:12 PM (/0X3E)

254 When you are holed below the waterline, counter-flooding will rarely save you.
Posted by: The Imperial Japanese Navy at July 06, 2024 01:11 PM (23272)

Might help you get the lifeboats off...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2024 01:12 PM (p7ywU)

255 Helena - The honest answer is the practical limit is enforced by the total number of registered voters. That is a fixed number, and you can only go slightly over 100% (the same day registration fraud).

Math works out like this:

(Trump Vote) + (Biden Vote) + (Fraud)

The fraud has to be pulled from a fixed sized pool of "unused" votes.

The greater the differential between Trump and Biden vote, the harder it is logistically to pull in fraudulent votes to make us the difference.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 01:12 PM (5p7BC)

256 @245: “on the wrong thread”. I quit, going outside in the heat, I deserve it. Bye.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 06, 2024 01:12 PM (qxlax)

257 Pixy ate some of that.

Trump + Biden + Fraud must be less than or equal to total registered voters

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 01:14 PM (5p7BC)

258 Amazing how much the GOP is ignoring this situation. In. On. It.
Posted by: enough BS
======
I think the Tories getting wiped out is a sobering moment for GOPe go along with Dems this election.

No office, no grift.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 01:14 PM (/0X3E)

259
I'm sure by about five pm tonight we'll have the name of the young black woman. By tomorrow her face and story will be everywhere.

I'm a conspiracy theorist so I suspect someone that close to Biden to get that video could be an insider who knows how demented he is and wants Joe gone.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 01:14 PM (RKVpM)

260 He is a sick old man who is not sturdy enough to go shopping for himself. What his problem is does not actually count, the same way the IRS doesn't care why I didn't pay my quarterlies for 2023. There is a lot of unfairness in life, getting old and feeble is not fair. It happens unless you are unlucky and die early.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 01:15 PM (D7oie)

261 I think the Tories getting wiped out is a sobering moment for GOPe go along with Dems this election.

No office, no grift.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 01:14 PM (/0X3E)

They deserved it.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 01:16 PM (2NXcZ)

262 I'm a conspiracy theorist so I suspect someone that close to Biden to get that video could be an insider who knows how demented he is and wants Joe gone.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 01:14 PM (RKVpM)

And works for someone who wants to be President.

Posted by: davidt at July 06, 2024 01:16 PM (SYTee)

263 George Takei
@GeorgeTakei
If you think a nightmarish, unconstitutional round up of innocent people, merely suspected of being enemies of the state, can’t happen in the U.S., then you’re forgetting that it already has.
I was among them, along with my entire family and community.
..........................................

Yeah, under a democrat president, you stupid fvcking cvnt!!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at July 06, 2024 01:16 PM (iODuv)

264 I'm sure by about five pm tonight we'll have the name of the young black woman. By tomorrow her face and story will be everywhere.

I'm a conspiracy theorist so I suspect someone that close to Biden to get that video could be an insider who knows how demented he is and wants Joe gone.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 06, 2024 01:14 PM (RKVpM)


Feel bad for her being doxxed and blamed for the bad campaign

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 01:16 PM (D7oie)

265 240

It's a fair question. However, if, as Dave in FL posits, they stole 700000 (!) votes in AZ (just in order to win the state by 1 vote)... I believe that neither the courts, nor the press (FOX News, etc.), nor the actual voters in AZ would stand for it.

The stench from stealing 6% of the total AZ vote (Dave in FL says 700000; I said 200000 just to be on the safe side) would be exponentially greater than the considerable stench when they (probably) stole appx 10000.

Wouldn't you agree that fraud on THAT scale represents a whole different risk calculus than (likely) stealing 10000?

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 01:16 PM (NLIak)

266 Wouldn't you agree that fraud on THAT scale represents a whole different risk calculus than (likely) stealing 10000?
Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 01:16 PM (NLIak)

Only if there are consequences for fraud and there have been only individual cosmetic consequences created to make fraud look isolated and small.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 01:19 PM (2NXcZ)

267 257 Pixy ate some of that.

Trump + Biden + Fraud must be less than or equal to total registered voters
Posted by: Dave in Fla
====
Agreed. In most states (leaving out the few that have election day registration), having more ballots produced than actual registered voters is prima facie proof of fraud in court precedents. Then the question is margin.

Yes, the Democrats could in theory ramp up to eleventy but 400 million votes in a country of 350 millions or so will destroy any vestige of popular sovereignty is likely to result in regime suicide. Contra to people's beliefs, we are not a police state yet and due to federalism, decentralization, and the sheer vastness of the US are unlikely to be a consolidated E. Germany or North Korea in the near future. So there are practical limits to coercion and much of that is directed actually at their own purported voters--e.g. Antifa only exists as a force in blue cities, ditto for the urban riot gangs. Move outside of those areas into many of the suburbs and you get Kyle Rittenhouse effect.

The military in such a situation will stay in their barracks and a fair number of federal leos won't be enthused about propping up Biden.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 01:20 PM (/0X3E)

268 I'm a conspiracy theorist so I suspect someone that close to Biden to get that video could be an insider who knows how demented he is and wants Joe gone.


hmm I doubt it

the girl was up in the back and one of the staffers asked her to come down to the front SPECIFICALLY to meet him! they were shooting so they could get a great "moment" to help with the Black vote.

and that old racist just ignored her - not once but twice!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 06, 2024 01:21 PM (s3qiR)

269 Has anybody from Slate actually seen Kamala during a public appearance? Even Joe Biden wasn't that ridiculous when he was that age, and it's a bit hard to set the bar any lower without a backhoe.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 06, 2024 01:22 PM (oGbWL)

270
It's a mystery to me why the Democrats didn't convince Joe to bow out of the race at this time last year. Now they can't win with him and can't get rid of him.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 06, 2024 01:22 PM (1Nxff)

271 It's a mystery to me why the Democrats didn't convince Joe to bow out of the race at this time last year. Now they can't win with him and can't get rid of him.


Hadrian I am certain they did try.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 06, 2024 01:23 PM (s3qiR)

272 I have said before the country has 180 million voters and there will be 220 million votes cast

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 01:23 PM (fwDg9)

273 Postcards From Barsoom (a Canadian) has some thoughts on the British elections

"[T]his means that Labour is an unstable coalition of completely incompatible groups that hate another, including both the gender-maddened and the warrior-barbers of Allah, presided over uneasily by an elite of neoliberal managerial technocrats, or at least actors who play those on TV"


https://tinyurl.com/3vrb63s3

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 01:24 PM (D7oie)

274 Damn - More video of that young black girl. The old white woman next to her was total trash to her before Biden got there.

Nurse is right, Trump campaign should totally find this girl and put her right behind Trump at a rally. Hell, even let her hold her Biden sign.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2024 01:24 PM (5p7BC)

275 Is the Coke 600 NASCAR race today? Trump is there

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 01:24 PM (fwDg9)

276 They deserved it.
Posted by: enough BS
======
I agree. Most senior GOP officeholders at the national level are just as much dinosaurs approaching extinction as the senior Tories were.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2024 01:25 PM (/0X3E)

277

272 I have said before the country has 180 million voters and there will be 220 million votes cast
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 01:23 PM (fwDg9)

And this time they'll be prepared enough that there will be no need to "shut down" the count.

Posted by: enough BS at July 06, 2024 01:26 PM (2NXcZ)

278 The Japanese roundup happened when our current regime was a toddler, playing too roughly with his toys. It's a strong young man now, and he's starting to show signs of an adult-onset psychotic break.

Rich, silly old queens like Takei can have their lachrymose tantrums comfortably. The rest of us actually have to live with this shit show.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2024 01:26 PM (0FoWg)

279 "[T]his means that Labour is an unstable coalition of completely incompatible groups that hate another, including both the gender-maddened and the warrior-barbers of Allah, presided over uneasily by an elite of neoliberal managerial technocrats, or at least actors who play those on TV"
Posted by: Kindltot


Sounds about right. However, the easiest way to string such groups together, at least temporarily, is to identify a common enemy. Things could get very bad for the average Brit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 06, 2024 01:26 PM (IG4Id)

280 Borigato (El Malo Gato Substack) has some thoughts on the European elections and what they seem to mean

[T]he simpy "center right" who lacked belief in rights or republics has been a door mat for the far left that masquerades as "center left” for ages because as the old political saw says “you cannot beat something with nothing” and the center right has long been the party of nothing.
they have been worse than “no defense” and crossed over into “active accomplices to societal dissolution.”
this is simply a terrible and increasingly tragic (and costly) worldview

https://tinyurl.com/47fn22nr

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 01:27 PM (D7oie)

281 Did anybody else worry they were going to get a pulmonary embolism from laughing so hard when the article referred to Hillary as "hypercompetent"?

Posted by: tankdemon at July 06, 2024 01:28 PM (oGbWL)

282 270
It's a mystery to me why the Democrats didn't convince Joe to bow out of the race at this time last year. Now they can't win with him and can't get rid of him.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 06, 2024 01:22 PM (1Nxff
Actually they can get rid of him.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2024 01:30 PM (o2ZRX)

283 270
'It's a mystery to me why the Democrats didn't convince Joe to bow out of the race at this time last year. '

Same here. I consider democrats to be incompetent in about every regard, except when it comes to politics. This was a predictable political landmine and they did nothing to prepare for it.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2024 01:31 PM (3wi/L)

284 Sulu is in ungrateful bastard
California had no idea what was going to happen. If you understand the logistical issues at interning tens of thousands of people, no one at this late date could consider this even remotely rational in a time of war.

They were worried at what types of havoc might occur if even small percentages - 5 or 10 per cent - of foreign nationals might cause, if they put a mind to it. That was their job to worry about such thing. It still is today, in fact.

This was a rationing of all food and retail goods economy. You couldn't even buy a tube of toothpaste without turning in the empty one. Complete mobilization of everything. Every thing. If they really thought they *didn't* need to round up foreign nationals from Japan - I would submit they would not have done so. It is a sad chapter in our nation's history for a lot of reasons, but a government that at least tried to win the wars it engaged in. Unlike .... Well, never mind.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2024 01:32 PM (HHI2d)

285 Same here. I consider democrats to be incompetent in about every regard, except when it comes to politics. This was a predictable political landmine and they did nothing to prepare for it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2024 01:31 PM (3wi/L)


there are two things at work here, one is the belief that if things are trucking along, there is no reason to change it
The second is that I doubt anyone in the inner circle of the Bidens is both competent and an independent thinker, which means they all do what they are told, and are reluctant to change things because they don't understand why it works in the first place.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 01:35 PM (D7oie)

286 "More video of that young black girl. The old white woman next to her was total trash to her before Biden got there."

That is deep-real video. Haven't watched it. It isn't faked - but it's a *setup* by people who know what Joey is like. Betcha.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2024 01:39 PM (HHI2d)

287 They should have know they were not going to hide his condition forever.
Though read the Democrats Convention next month was to be virtual not live much.

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 01:41 PM (fwDg9)

288 takei is quite sure he knows who to hate and why, and "all of them" is asinine.
My great uncle was a pharmacist in a retail pharmacy store in Tacoma in 1941. December 7 they hid the Japanese dishwasher kid from the lunch counter in the basement of the store for the day because there had been a group come by deciding to beat him up because he was Japanese, and no one working there wanted him wandering around and running across another lynch mob.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2024 01:42 PM (D7oie)

289 286 "More video of that young black girl. The old white woman next to her was total trash to her before Biden got there."

That is deep-real video. Haven't watched it. It isn't faked - but it's a *setup* by people who know what Joey is like. Betcha.
Posted by: Common Tater


Show her at a Trump rally with people shaking her hand and celebrating WITH her.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 06, 2024 01:44 PM (81wK+)

290 Well, looks like the Marxist Left has their next attack on President Trump:

Epstein Docs Allege Trump Had Relations with Underage Girls

Unsealed documents related to Jeffrey Epstein have brought forth allegations against Donald Trump, accusing him of having sexual relations with underage girls. The allegations, reported by the U.K. press, have sparked significant discussion on social media, with many users expressing outrage and calling for more attention to these claims. The discussion also highlights a perceived lack of coverage by the U.S. media on this issue. The documents include claims by one of Epstein's alleged victims, Sarah Ransome, detailing these accusations against Trump. The conversation has been marked by a mix of shock, anger, and calls for accountability, with some users questioning the media's focus on other topics.

https://bit.ly/4bxQ60f
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
=======

OMG!!!
This is worse than the RUSSIAN prostitutes!

Anyway...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 06, 2024 01:47 PM (cOq4q)

291 Great. Next they will say that Trump ate a dog.

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2024 01:51 PM (vFG9F)

292 Did anybody else worry they were going to get a pulmonary embolism from laughing so hard when the article referred to Hillary as "hypercompetent"?
Posted by: tankdemon

Maybe they meant "hystericompetent".

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Free the Trump 45! at July 06, 2024 02:00 PM (L/fGl)

293 there are two things at work here, one is the belief that if things are trucking along, there is no reason to change it
The second is that I doubt anyone in the inner circle of the Bidens is both competent and an independent thinker, which means they all do what they are told, and are reluctant to change things because they don't understand why it works in the first place.
Posted by: Kindltot

3. Astounding amounts of arrogance.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 06, 2024 02:02 PM (qZEuM)

294 Did anybody note that the gardening thread is up?

You can stay here if you like, too. Democrats are in a tizzy.

Posted by: KT at July 06, 2024 02:04 PM (rrtZS)

295 OMG!!!
This is worse than the RUSSIAN prostitutes!

Anyway...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 06, 2024 01:47 PM (cOq4q)

They'll blame Trump for shitting Biden's pants before it's over.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 06, 2024 02:34 PM (pIfcn)

296 How anyone could write "the Democratic Party’s many bright, shining potential stars" with a straight face is beyond me. Sheesh...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 06, 2024 02:48 PM (XMwZJ)

297 This struck me as an own goal:

In the Stephanopoulos interview, Biden somehow managed to bring up... the size of his crowds. (!)

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 02:52 PM (NLIak)

298 I have been wondering while working outside, if Marchan blew it not jailing Trump, might have slowed this train wreck they are on.

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 02:56 PM (fwDg9)

299 Here was an "as bad as his debate" moment:

Stephanopoulos pointed out, "But Trump draws BIG CROWDS."

Biden; "But who are they?"

Biden clearly wanted to segue into basket of deplorables territory, but Stephanopolous let it slide.

Posted by: mnw at July 06, 2024 02:59 PM (NLIak)

300 It's been thought 1/2 of those going to see Sundowner ( 100 out of 200) are press or Democrat people

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 03:02 PM (fwDg9)

301 In his mind thinks he gets 300 paid to show up

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 03:03 PM (fwDg9)

302 Is there even one Democrat who's demeanor leans toward cheer and optimism?

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 06, 2024 03:04 PM (5LP0j)

303 302 Is there even one Democrat who's demeanor leans toward cheer and optimism?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 06, 2024 03:04 PM (5LP0j)

If they leaned towards cheer and optimism, they wouldn't be Leftists.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 06, 2024 03:17 PM (8sMut)

304 Marxists drive on anger

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2024 03:27 PM (fwDg9)

305 >>Parkinson's doesn't cause dementia. Affects the brain's ability to control voluntary muscle movement. My mother had it. Biden is suffering Alzheimers or senile dementia.


80% of Parkinson's patients develop dementia.

Posted by: Aviator at July 06, 2024 03:47 PM (HQ9Sl)

306 I would love for Kamala to become the next Democrat candidate for president.

I would love to become a member of her campaign, and I would love to become her presidential aide.

I would love Kamala to do what she does best which is suck dick, and my cock would absolutely fulfill her impeccable standards.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 06, 2024 04:16 PM (2UBPP)

307 "although no police forces were actually defunded,"

Fact check: false

Posted by: Heresolong at July 06, 2024 11:28 PM (Go1X4)

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