Sad! Vox Whines That Corporations Are Abandoning Woke Propaganda

And apparently-- Dylan Mulvaney is responsible for this change.

Well done, Dylan! "For he's a jolly good fellow/for he's a jolly good fellow..."

For most of advertising history, "red" or "blue" as partisan loyalty signaled more your taste for Coke or Pepsi than your identity as Republican or Democrat. Mass markets, by definition, necessitated selling to both sides of the aisle.
As with so much else, the presidency of Donald Trump -- built upon a self-conceived human brand -- radically upended those norms.
Post-2016 election, one Adweek column thundered, "Brands cannot expect to play Switzerland as the rest of the world picks a side." Consumer culture suddenly became the vehicle for political expression, with Madison Avenue giving voice to countless causes. The staid "corporate social responsibility" morphed into the more muscular "brand purpose," which beget impassioned activism. Social justice became "trendy;" politics, the means to signal commercial "integrity."
Today, just as during the Trump presidency, controversial issues abound, protesters convulse public spaces, and a divisive election looms. The world is picking sides -- on abortion and Gaza and Trump's trials. And from brand-land? By and large, the sound of silence.
That's because, despite prior pretense, advertising follows, not leads; it needs markets, not morality. That silence, therefore, says much about our sociopolitical moment: As culture warriors find themselves on the defensive, brands, wary from the backlash against Bud Light's use of a trans influencer, no longer show interest in advancing their causes.
Indeed, today's primary "cause" -- and, arguably, election issue -- is lower on the hierarchy of needs: cost of living. That makes for a more practical, less symbolic battleground for commercial content.
In 2024, whatever else might happen, the revolution will not be advertised.
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Previously, we thought, "If I'm going to buy paper towels, are they useful? Are they inexpensive?" one marketing executive explained to me. By 2020, "societal issues [had] become brand attributes ... in terms of product purchases." The question became: How "woke" are your paper towels?
If the ads of the 2010s felt like they were talking back to Trump, you're not mistaken. Like other domains of cultural production -- journalism, the popular arts, academia -- brand-land leans left. For many such news topics invoked commercially -- race, guns, the environment -- creative professionals couldn't conceive of there being "two sides" to the story.
And the sheer variety of issues that brands subsequently embraced could crowd K Street. Levi's and Delta demanded gun control. Nike amplified Colin Kaepernick's Black Lives Matter kneel, as did some $50 billion in corporate pledges toward racial equality. Patagonia rejected Trump's signature legislation -- an "irresponsible tax cut," its CEO accused -- by giving its $10 million in corporate windfall to environmental groups.
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The personal has, of course, long been political, but during the 45th presidency, the civic became commercial as never before. Then, just as quickly as it had stormed the barricades, Madison Avenue abandoned them.
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Again, commercial communication follows, not leads. Advertising's activist retreat mirrors a reversal in public sentiment, perhaps a post-pandemic fatigue. One poll finds just 20 percent of Americans are now interested in corporations taking a stand on political issues or current events, and fewer than 30 percent want to hear brands opine on international conflict.
Curiously, among the least supported issues (for brand engagement, at least) are many that defined the commercial battlegrounds of the Trump years: police reform, immigration, LGBTQ+ rights, and abortion.

Former country music star Tim McGraw announced his partnership with Men in Girls Lockerrooms Gromer Gym Planet Fitness -- and then deleted it when he got pushback.

He also blocked Chaya Raichik for asking about it. He's still pimping the Groomer Underage Mixer Gym on Instagram.

In more Woke News:

Oh no -- the leftwing dark money slushfund, the Tides Foundation, is in a dispute with the Heroes of Black Lives Matter over a missing $8.7 million.

The left-wing dark money giant Tides Foundation raised more than $33 million on behalf of the national Black Lives Matter group during the George Floyd riots in 2020. Now, Black Lives Matter is suing Tides over its refusal to hand the funds back. There's just one problem--nearly $9 million of those funds have seemingly disappeared.
FreeBeacon
From 2020 through 2022, Tides transferred $8.7 million from the fund to Black Lives Matter Grassroots, an offshoot of the national Black Lives Matter group led by Melina Abdullah, a longtime activist and professor. But Black Lives Matter Grassroots reported to the IRS that it never received that money, and no one involved in the transactions will say what became of the funds. These discrepancies have left charity watchdogs mystified, while legal experts say they could lead to massive fines and penalties.
This story is based on interviews with Black Lives Matter activists and internal documents obtained by the Washington Free Beacon. Together, they expose how the movement's mismanagement of its 2020 windfall was aided and abetted by a left-wing dark money machine, and went far beyond the purchase of swanky mansions and massive distributions to associates of its co-founder, Patrisse Cullors.
As the remnants of Black Lives Matter's windfall rapidly diminish, two factions have emerged seeking to establish control over the movement's remaining finances. On one side of the power struggle is Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, the charity commonly referred to as the national Black Lives Matter group, which was responsible for purchasing a $6 million Los Angeles mansion in 2020 and granting $8 million to purchase a Canadian mansion in 2021. The Global Network Foundation received the bulk of the Black Lives Matter windfall in 2020--nearly $80 million. By June 2023, that endowment had been reduced to $29 million, according to tax documents released last week.
At the other end of the conflict is Black Lives Matter Grassroots, an offshoot of the Global Network Foundation that tried and failed to sue its progenitor for $10 million and allegedly abused its own charitable resources to finance overseas vacations for Abdullah, its director. Black Lives Matter Grassroots' finances are a complete mystery. There is no indication the charity has filed a public financial disclosure with the IRS, though it was due to file one by November 2023 at the latest.
In the middle of the struggle is the Tides Foundation, the left-wing dark money giant that raised more than $33 million on behalf of the Black Lives Matter movement in 2020, and now refuses to give what remains to either group.
The Global Network Foundation sued Tides in May over its refusal to relinquish the funds, arguing they were raised on its behalf. But behind the scenes, from 2020 through 2022, Abdullah led a committee of seven Black Lives Matter activists that convinced Tides to divert $8.7 million from the fund to Black Lives Matter Grassroots.
Whatever became of those millions is unclear. On paper, they seemingly disappeared.

See the article for the financial shenanigans.

This certainly makes it all sound ship-shape and on the level:

Black Lives Matter sources said Abdullah shielded Black Lives Matter Grassroots' finances from the public at the same time the Global Network Foundation was facing intense public scrutiny over its own finances. The Global Network Foundation secretly purchased a $6 million mansion in Los Angeles in 2020, which Black Lives Matter cofounder Patrisse Cullors later used to film a video of herself and Abdullah drinking wine and reflecting on the George Floyd riots.
In that video, which was filmed in June 2021, Abdullah railed against disgruntled activists and the press for demanding transparency of Black Lives Matter's finances.
"Who the fuck are you? You ain't done shit," Abdullah said while sipping on white wine and snacking on strawberries. "And you ain't doing no fucking work. You do no work. You're on Twitter. You have no following. And you're trying to gain a following by talking shit."
Around the time that video was filmed, Abdullah allegedly dipped into Black Lives Matter Grassroots' accounts to fund a personal vacation to Jamaica.
"Some members of the Grassroots team secretly took a book-writing retreat trip to Jamaica without notifying the entirety of the team, or without approving a budgetary expenditure," former Black Lives Matter Grassroots co-director Sandra Hudson wrote in a January 2022 memo to Tides. Hudson's leadership position with the group was terminated just weeks after she sent the memo, the activist said in a sworn declaration as part of Black Lives Matter Grassroots' failed lawsuit against the Global Network Foundation.
Abdullah described her Jamaica trip as a "vacation" during a private conversation with another Black Lives Matter activist in 2021.
"She mentioned that she had just come back from Jamaica for vacation and she went with some people with Grassroots," that Black Lives Matter activist told the Free Beacon. "She said Grassroots was writing a book or something. But she also mentioned to me that it was important that I not say anything to anyone because it was really just a vacation."
As of the publication of this article, neither Black Lives Matter Grassroots nor Abdullah have published a book.

I hope this doesn't come to blows or bullets!

It's so weird how these black grifter groups, like the one fronted by skinny slippery-ass bitch Ibrahim X. Khendi (real name Henry Rogers or something) which similarly took in millions and produced nothing.

How the once-edgy and anti-establishment Vice went woke and went broke. As told by a former Vice reporter who was there for the downfall.

The beginning of the end came in 2017.
After a New York Times report exposed the supposedly sexually charged "boys' club" atmosphere at Vice--a magazine started by three boys in 1994--a clutch of employees publicly condemned their employer for its past and demanded that the company that paid their salaries start acting like an entirely different company.
Vice co-founder and CEO Shane Smith, once a frequent presence in the New York office, retreated to his $50 million L.A. mansion and transferred control of the company to a female CEO, former A&E Networks head Nancy Dubuc. A staff-wide email from Smith and fellow Vice co-founder Suroosh Alvi, sent hours before the Times story dropped, offered an expression of "extreme regret for our role in perpetuating sexism in the media industry and society in general," which rather overestimated the company's influence and overstated their sense of contrition.
After all, Vice's top leadership, in private, was far less acquiescent, bitterly arguing that the Times story was a conclusion in search of supporting anecdotes, with complicating facts ignored to sustain a predetermined narrative. Regardless, profuse apologies were demanded and frequently repeated. But they weren't enough.

One complaint was that the photos of the magazine's covers on the company's walls were offensive. Which ones?

Take your pick. Or all of them. Just take them down.

We order you to take them down.

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The covers were swiftly removed, now sequestered in co-founder Suroosh Alvi's basement office, where a number of longtime Vice employees gathered to express a collective incredulity. "The resistance starts now," one of them said hopefully. But we all saw it for what it was: a surrender.
It was the first in a cascading series of I told you so moments. In a building full of poorly paid, expensively educated young journalists, laboring on behalf of lavishly paid, expensively educated executives, it was inevitable, in an age of perpetual offense, that Vice Media would soon be consumed by controversies about its past, providing excuses to reshape its future. But if you're endlessly apologizing for the very content that created all of these jobs, as I told one executive at the time, it will end up destroying the company.
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All of this airbrushing of the past for the sake of psychological safety in the present was a harbinger of the grimness to come, partly because it provoked no audible internal dissent and went unnoticed by the outside world. As one former executive recently told me, it was then that leadership should have reckoned with the disheartening reality that "our workforce hated our brand."

This is obvious, but maybe it needs to be said anyway: The whole doctrine of Marxist critique, as explicitly stated by Marx himself, was that the revolutionary cadres should do nothing but critique, "denounce," and anathematize any institution they didn't like until that institution attempted to buy peace by making concession after concession to the Marxists.

And the Marxists did not intend reform of the institutions; they were revolutionaries. Although sometimes they tactically adjust their rhetoric to make it sound like they're asking for reforms, they're not: the end goal is the destruction of the institutions, a razing of them all to the ground, to establish a New World Order starting at Year Zero.

They say this. They make no secret of this.

But every time they do the same fucking thing, a bunch of dumbases and cucks picking the lint out of their assholes say the same thing: "Well maybe if we just meet them halfway we can buy them off."

Antifa routinely threatens to physically attack "journalists" if they film their faces, so these Brave Firefighters of course meekly comply.

They also routinely block camera shots of their public demonstrations.

But Jake Tapper says nothing. He knows who the Bad Guys are.

If you thought the Trump political persecution couldn't get more disgusting, have I got some bad news for you.

This is the country under Democrat rule.

Life during wartime.

Libs of TikTok

@libsoftiktok
Boston Mayor @wutrain said she would support a policy that refuses to prosecute the following crimes:
-shoplifting
-larceny
-disorderly conduct
-receiving stolen property
-driving with a suspended license
-breaking and entering with property damage
-wanton and malicious destruction of property
-threats
-minor in possession of alcohol
-marijuana possession
-possession with intent to distribute
-non-marijuana drug possession
Democrats want to protect criminals and put Americans in danger.

Democrats are now racing to decriminalize child sex traffickers and pedophiles in the name of "decarceration."

"Trans activist mental health counselor claims that counselors "have a moral duty to be liberal or leftist."" Calm down, Dude.

On @TheView, author @JohnGrisham fantasizes about killing SCOTUS justices 'again,' 2 years after attempt on Kavanaugh https://t.co/rEIR52WFgh
— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) May 29, 2024

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:20 PM

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1 Wait. You mean to tell me that fat women and hairless gay dudes don't sell sexy women's lingerie?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (vtRd1)

2 Roomy!

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM (lZVy/)

3 My company's marketing is still wokifying here and there despite pushback from literally everyone, where they/them in marketing have recently done a campaign celebrating gender dysphorics revealing their "true" identity to their parents

Everyone at my company: the fuck does this have to do with our products?

They/Them: we cleared this with a Gen Z firm

Im not making this up

this brilliant marketing team consulted with a firm that describes themselves as "experts in connecting with a Gen Z audience" for their campaign

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 31, 2024 05:24 PM (DBZuM)

4 Boston Mayor @wutrain said she would support a policy that refuses to prosecute the following crimes:

This is the peach who was organizing city-funded parties that openly excluded white people, right?

Nice work, Boston voters.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2024 05:24 PM (vtRd1)

5 >>>this brilliant marketing team consulted with a firm that describes themselves as "experts in connecting with a Gen Z audience" for their campaign

I have a story about that, I'll write it up next week maybe.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:25 PM (KRtlO)

6 On
@TheView
, author
@JohnGrisham
fantasizes about killing SCOTUS justices 'again,' 2 years after attempt on Kavanaugh

I take it he isn't implying Kagan or Sotomayor

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2024 05:26 PM (vtRd1)

7 I have a story about that, I'll write it up next week maybe.

************

Ohhh, Ill be reading that

I keep thinking we we're finally past the woke shit and then some 50 pound soaking wet mini david french in marketing pulls us right back into the fire

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 31, 2024 05:27 PM (DBZuM)

8 Abdullah is pretty evil. She and her minions protested once a week outside of former DA Jackie Lacey's office for a couple years, and then showed up to her home to provoke a reaction by coming up onto her porch. She got what she wanted, and Gascon won the next election.

Like I say, evil.

Posted by: PJ at May 31, 2024 05:28 PM (G1dq6)

9 As with so much else, the presidency of Donald Trump -- built upon a self-conceived human brand -- radically upended those norms.

No, it wasn't the presidency of Trump, it was the left's unwillingness to accept his presidency and their determination to undermine it that widened the rift.

Posted by: Giacomo at May 31, 2024 05:29 PM (fNVBj)

10 Well; I guess I won't be reading any books by John Grisham.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2024 05:29 PM (XkYcA)

11 Nice work, Boston voters.

*************

What happened to Mumbles Moreno, I guess he was termed out?

he was basically a lefty version of Giuliani in drag but he had enough sense to emulate Rudy's approach to crime

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 31, 2024 05:30 PM (DBZuM)

12 Jake is one of the socialist badges. Like father like son

Posted by: GOP sux at May 31, 2024 05:31 PM (Zzbjj)

13 Well; I guess I won't be reading any books by John Grisham.

*************

he's overrated and sucks ass

but mostly ass

plus he's overrated

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 31, 2024 05:31 PM (DBZuM)

14 Nice Talking Heads reference.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 31, 2024 05:33 PM (lZVy/)

15 14 Nice Talking Heads reference.
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 31, 2024 05:33 PM (lZVy/)

Same as it ever was

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:34 PM (Akjoo)

16 People who say, "they won't like the new rules " are almost universally the ones who urged restraint under the old rules.

Sure, they plead for caution in every chance to justifiably apply the old rules.

But now that they hear the "olly-olly oxen free!" they are gonna lead the charge for retribution.

Nah. They'll whine about how we should still follow the old rules to show how much better we and those rules are.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 31, 2024 05:35 PM (g9W3m)

17 Best way to connect with Gen Z would be with an aluminum bat.

Posted by: Youngsters - Off My Lawn! at May 31, 2024 05:35 PM (cNrpt)

18 Boston Mayor @wutrain said she would support a policy that refuses to prosecute the following crimes:

driving with a suspended license

Yeah, that's been the defacto policy in Portland for quite a while.

Guess what - that means every driver in Portland, no matter how bad, keeps driving, because there is no mechanism to make them stop driving. Drunk, stoned, road rage, it doesn't matter.

Once the driver finally kills someone, then maybe you can put them in jail.

Maybe.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 31, 2024 05:35 PM (uxCna)

19 Don't Fake The Girl, McGraw.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 31, 2024 05:35 PM (0FoWg)

20 Tim McGraw and his wife What's Her Name Faith something are big libs from what Bive read.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 05:35 PM (oaGWv)

21 Boston mayor strapping it on and pulling a wutrain on her city

Posted by: Peggy McPegeroni the San Francisco Treat at May 31, 2024 05:36 PM (eJm98)

22 Regressing to Hanson via J.J.,

The public still cannot digest the truth that the once respected FBI partnered with social media to suppress news stories, to surveil parents at school board meetings, and to conduct performance art swat raids on the homes of supposed political opponents.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2024 05:36 PM (0ZYe2)

23 That graph of the Political Leanings of misinformation experts?

It should be retitled: Political Leanings of electronic media reporters and management. Any "news organization" located in a Blue locality is nothing more that a shrill propaganda machine.

My local paper, the Seattle Times, is atrocious at fair reporting. I tell anyone who refers to information printed in it as being a brainwashed fool. The Times is only good for two things, sports reporting of the local pro and college teams, and restaurant reviews.

Everything else, from public policy to politics is an embarrassment. And what they say is generally false or just outright lying.

And to think that not so long ago, these organizations were competent.

Sad.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2024 05:36 PM (2ds6i)

24 Tim McGraw and his wife are long time lefty elites.
*spits*
They can piss off.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2024 05:38 PM (W/lyH)

25 Bud Light really needed "Sham-Wow Vince".

Posted by: BignJames at May 31, 2024 05:38 PM (AwYPR)

26 BLM thrived. Yet DJT, who has probably paid millions in taxes and given millions to charity, is persecuted.

Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 05:39 PM (vFG9F)

27 Or: If you weren't willing to kick your enemies when they were down, you'll be no use in an ass-kicking contest.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 31, 2024 05:39 PM (g9W3m)

28 Is Vox dead?

Posted by: Adolf Hitler (on phone) at May 31, 2024 05:39 PM (I0kUP)

29 So go woke, go broke is working?

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 05:39 PM (fwDg9)

30 So...after about 5 years of BLM nonsense, grifting, money laundering, rape, thievery, embezzlement, bribes, lying and rape, all Da Ghettos are now prosperous centers of commerce and all the cullid folks are on their ways to the East Side to a deluxe apartment in the sky?

Yeah, they are moving on up! They finally got a piece of the pie!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2024 05:39 PM (R/m4+)

31 A while ago one of the D Senators from Nevada had one of her underlings killed by an illegal border crosser.

I am sad to say that in a moment of weakness, I smiled.

When underlings of this Boston mayor happen on a similar fate, I will cheer loudly.

The Rule of Law is dead in this country.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2024 05:39 PM (2ds6i)

32 When exactly did the terms "misinformation/disinformation" make it into constant mainstream usage? I do not recall seeing that word during the 2016 election but it has come front and center since 2020 from what I can see.

I do know the left tried to get the term "weapons of war" introduced into the lexicon through numerous lawsuits against gun makers until a judge or two shut them completely down and the word pretty much disappeared.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2024 05:39 PM (QNSds)

33 28 Is Vox dead?
Posted by: Adolf Hitler (on phone) at May 31, 2024 05:39 PM (I0kUP)

Hope there's a DNR on file

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:40 PM (Akjoo)

34 This could all be resolved with a couple trans-women overseeing a couple trans-men with a black, handicapped woman overseeing two furries and a cross dressing press agent.

And then push the ghey agenda 24X7.

The normals will love it.

Posted by: DEI Agent Extraordinaire at May 31, 2024 05:40 PM (Q4IgG)

35 What's Biden given to charity? A few thousand dollars and some old underwear?

Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 05:40 PM (vFG9F)

36 That's fucking awesome.
Hey liberals reading this, I've got a science fiction story I'd like to write, put me in a resort on the west coast of Barbados and I swear I'll make it about a couple of lesbians.
I need maybe four months there to make it good.
Deal?

Posted by: gKWVE at May 31, 2024 05:41 PM (gKWVE)

37 otters called

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 31, 2024 05:41 PM (ZdexC)

38 Antifa routinely threatens to physically attack "journalists" if they film their faces, so these Brave Firefighters of course meekly comply.
***

I'm not a journalist but I can get one of those flak vests you all wear that says I am. And I'll not only take your picture but will make posters. Please come to my town.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2024 05:41 PM (W/lyH)

39 Well; I guess I won't be reading any books by John Grisham.

*************

he's overrated and sucks ass

"The Firm" was good, but the movie is much better than the book.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 31, 2024 05:41 PM (yOPBE)

40 You know, Democrats are cutting their own throat through eliminating the middle man in their wealth transfer schemes. Whatever are they going to do when the thieves they need in order to justify their jobs realize it's easier to just take directly from the man rather than deal with the petty bureaucracy?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 31, 2024 05:42 PM (tT6L1)

41 Tim McGraw is a well-known anti-2nd Amendment shill.

**** him, and the donkey he rode in on.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2024 05:42 PM (2ds6i)

42 Most country music these days is just some kind of redneck drag performance. "I'm a cowboy. You can tell by the sequins on my jacket and my ten-gallon hat." It's more fake and gay than Rupaul riding a Bad Dragon at the Folsom Street Faire. My guess is that Tim McGraw's dog has been vaccinated for minkeypox.

Posted by: What country is country music from these days? at May 31, 2024 05:42 PM (cNrpt)

43 >>What happened to Mumbles Moreno, I guess he was termed out?

He dead.

Menino was mayor for much of the time I lived in Boston and while he was a Democrat he was a sane one. The city thrived while he was in office, it was safe, clean and a great place to live.

I had a condo in a brownstone. The building next to me was being gutted and renovated. The builder kept breaking the rules and doing loud, heavy work on Saturday mornings starting at 7 am and then leaving a mess all over outside including in my parking area.

I tried to reason with the builder and he basically told me to fuck off. I called Menino's office and he immediately sent one of his aides who was young black dude, a recent grad of Boston College and the size of a mountain. Former football player.

Had the builder meet him and me outside the building and told him if Menino's office got one more complaint from me he would pull his work permit indefinitely. Next day the builder had his guys wash my car and work ended on weekends.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 05:42 PM (LkLld)

44 Life during war time indeed. Going on 4 years of occupation soon...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, PNW MOME June 1st at May 31, 2024 05:42 PM (xcxpd)

45 Hiya

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2024 05:42 PM (T4tVD)

46 "Boston Mayor @wutrain said she would support a policy that refuses to prosecute the following crimes:"

I see "Falsifying Business Records" is not on that list.

Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 05:42 PM (vFG9F)

47 Big 'Ol Post. Much good reading to parse.

Posted by: scampydog at May 31, 2024 05:43 PM (2bFN5)

48 Trump famously spent money on stuff the IRS allowed as write offs. He did it to inflate his balance sheet. All legal. Just as legal as a Sloppy Daniels NDA.

And the liberals cope and seeth over him doing legal things with money that they seriously believe should be taken as taxes. From Trump.

Posted by: torabora at May 31, 2024 05:43 PM (I0kUP)

49 and hi JackStraw. sorry some asshole socked your nic yesterday. glad you didn't get accidentally banned.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 31, 2024 05:43 PM (gKWVE)

50 The Firm" was good, but the movie is much better than the book.

***********

I read the book and thought the movie wouldnt be good

I thought poorly

Posted by: The Grounded Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at May 31, 2024 05:43 PM (DBZuM)

51 Darn that Trump! We were just one big happy family until he showed up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2024 05:43 PM (63Dwl)

52 If you thought the Trump political persecution couldn't get more disgusting, have I got some bad news for you.

It's a trap!

Posted by: Adm. Ackbar at May 31, 2024 05:44 PM (a3Q+t)

53 I was a Grisham fan. Then I found out he was nuttier than most writers. Much like Stephen King.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 31, 2024 05:45 PM (tT6L1)

54 "Boston Mayor @wutrain said she would support a policy that refuses to prosecute the following crimes:"

I see "Falsifying Business Records" is not on that list.

Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 05:42 PM (vFG9F)
________________

Neither is "beating the shit out of Asian women," oddly enough.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 05:45 PM (YqDXo)

55
I am Nature's Outlaw
Vagina made of cock, hah
My baby ain't a chick, nah
She's two of a kind

Posted by: Tim McGraw at May 31, 2024 05:46 PM (0FoWg)

56 I couldn't get past The Firm's ultra-irritating white-people jazz soundtrack. It was like NPR: The Motion Picture.

Posted by: Even Wilford Brimley Could Not Save The Movie at May 31, 2024 05:46 PM (cNrpt)

57 >>and hi JackStraw. sorry some asshole socked your nic yesterday. glad you didn't get accidentally banned.

Hi. Me too.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 05:46 PM (LkLld)

58 Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024

**********

That’s about how it should be done

The only times I visited Boston was when Mumbles was there and it was awesome, everything from the freedom trail to the north end

Coincidentally the only time I ever visited NYC was when Rudy was there and it was equally as awesome

The left fucking destroys everything

Posted by: The Grounded Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at May 31, 2024 05:47 PM (DBZuM)

59 I was under the impression that Boston, among major blue cities, had survived the post George Floyd era better than most.

Posted by: mr tmz at May 31, 2024 05:47 PM (rJ48h)

60 and I swear I'll make it about a couple of lesbians.
I need maybe four months there to make it good.
Deal?
Posted by: gKWVE at May 31, 2024 05:41 PM

Some folks here might be able to point you toward some reasearch materials, if needed.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2024 05:47 PM (a3Q+t)

61 What's Biden given to charity? A few thousand dollars and some old underwear?
Posted by: fd at May 31, 2024 05:40 PM (vFG9F)
****
I don't wear underwear because it slows down business.

Posted by: Sloppy Daniels at May 31, 2024 05:47 PM (I0kUP)

62 > "The Firm" was good, but the movie is much better than the book.
---------
I lived in Memphis while that was being filmed. A co-worker lived just up the street from the house used as Cruise and Hunter's.

It was, then, pretty shitty.

Posted by: DEI Agent Extraordinaire at May 31, 2024 05:49 PM (Q4IgG)

63 oops

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2024 05:49 PM (Q4IgG)

64 Tim McGraw is a fake Fratboy created country star. His estranged father Tug had reconciled and when Tim decided he wanted to become a country singer, Tug used his connections to make it happen.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:50 PM (SHMXB)

65 As with so much else, the presidency of Donald Trump -- built upon a self-conceived human brand -- radically upended those norms.
________________

Yeah, before Trump everything was hunky-dory.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 05:51 PM (YqDXo)

66 I read the book and thought the movie wouldnt be good

I thought poorly
Posted by: The Grounded Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger

Tom Cruise delivers again. The whole cast was great though.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 05:51 PM (oaGWv)

67 I hated The Firm. All it is for half of its length is a wish-fulfillment fantasy about being given huge sums of wealth as a young person for doing nothing but graduating law school. The "plot" is just the thinnest and most obvious structure to justify what would be, without the plot, instantly spotted as nothing but pandering wealth porn.

Fuck this guy especially. He's a shit writer and always has been.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:52 PM (KRtlO)

68 I don't remember the movie much, I forgot it was a tom cruise movie.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:52 PM (KRtlO)

69 >>That’s about how it should be done

>>The only times I visited Boston was when Mumbles was there and it was awesome, everything from the freedom trail to the north end

During the time I lived there it was a fantastic place to live. Pretty compact city that was easy to get around by foot or the infamous "T". But I could see the end was near and got out just at the right time. Couldn't pay me to live there now.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 05:52 PM (LkLld)

70 and I swear I'll make it about a couple of lesbians.
I need maybe four months there to make it good.
Deal?
Posted by: gKWVE at May 31, 2024 05:41 PM
****
Am available. I'll wash up.

Posted by: Sloppy Daniels at May 31, 2024 05:52 PM (I0kUP)

71 It was, then, pretty shitty.
Posted by: DEI Agent Extraordinaire at May 31, 2024 05:49 PM

The movie, or Memphis?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2024 05:52 PM (a3Q+t)

72 Tom Cruise bless his Scientologist heart has always been more focused on making entertaining movies than being a lefty asshole on X like most actors are, which is why his movies always get an automatic watch from me

Posted by: The Grounded Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at May 31, 2024 05:53 PM (DBZuM)

73 Fuck this guy especially. He's a shit writer and always has been.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:52 PM (KRtlO)

Tell us how ya really feel !

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2024 05:53 PM (T4tVD)

74 And of course...CORPORATIONS are the very life blood of woke propaganda.

Without them that cancer on society has no oxygen at all.

Posted by: eleven at May 31, 2024 05:54 PM (iziT8)

75 I know I saw The Firm many moons ago but I don't remember much about it.

Posted by: It's me donna at May 31, 2024 05:54 PM (Akjoo)

76
Jake is one of the socialist badges. Like father like son
Posted by: GOP sux

Stinkin' badges!

Posted by: Gold Hat at May 31, 2024 05:55 PM (63Dwl)

77 Being a lawyer, I don't get the legal thriller genre. Or law-related shows. They bear any resemblance to the practice of law, which is hard work and deadly boring for the most part. Where are all the high-stakes accounting dramas?

Posted by: Harvey Birdman is good though at May 31, 2024 05:55 PM (cNrpt)

78 John Grisham = Dan Brown

Better choice for those easy to read beach books would be Stephen Hunter.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:55 PM (SHMXB)

79 The Times is only good for two things, sports reporting of the local pro and college teams, and restaurant reviews.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2024 05:36 PM (2ds6i)
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What about bird cage liner? Can I use it for that?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 31, 2024 05:56 PM (BpYfr)

80 Tom Cruise bless his Scientologist heart has always been more focused on making entertaining movies than being a lefty asshole on X like most actors are, which is why his movies always get an automatic watch from me
Posted by: The Grounded Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at May 31, 2024 05:53 PM (DBZuM)
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Same. The film he did that caught me off guard, though, was "Collateral." Very well done.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 31, 2024 05:56 PM (tT6L1)

81 People who run companies aren't idiots. Well, except at Disney.

But they knew this woke shit would cost them revenue. They just judged the cost vs the pressure from liberal social justice warriors and they deemed that cost acceptable.

Until Dylan. Cause that little bitch cost a few billion and counting.

Now that cost outweighs the blue haired screaming fits.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 05:56 PM (RUMEY)

82 > The movie, or Memphis?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
------------
Memphis

It had some great food and music but.... it just devolved into mayhem down around Beale St.

And was allowed to fester. Forever. Even the Peabody was trashed. And this was in the late 90's.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2024 05:57 PM (Q4IgG)

83 Here's what I remember about the Pelican Brief:

First of all, it's stupid and poorly written. Every single cop in the book is described as a "20-year-man" or "15-year-man."

Second of all, this is the only book I've ever read where every main character and villain knows what's in the Pelican Brief, and they've all read it, but this is hidden from the *reader* because that's the only "mystery" in the book. (And it's a stupid, gay mystery.)

This isn't done. The convention is that the reader knows what the main character knows. If the main character is unaware of something, then the reader is unaware of it, but the minute the main character becomes aware of it, then the reader becomes aware of it as well, through the main character.

But in this book, the main character reads the Pelican Brief like 50 pages in and then just keeps talking about how incredible and dangerous it is with other people (who she's also let read the brief) and they just keep not saying what it is.

Again, because there's no other mystery except what the Pelican Brief says. So the characters just hide this information from... the reader. Then on page 250 the book prints the brief and it's... stupid and gay

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:58 PM (KRtlO)

84 68 I don't remember the movie much, I forgot it was a tom cruise movie.

Posted by: ace

Gene Hackman was especially good as was Wilford Brimley who played one mean son of a bitch.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 05:58 PM (oaGWv)

85 Tom Cruise has a net positive on movies. I think he’s 65% / 35%.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 05:58 PM (SHMXB)

86 I liked Hackman and Diabeetus in the Firm. Thought both did well.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 05:58 PM (RUMEY)

87 During the time I lived there it was a fantastic place to live.

***************

It had a great vibe then, the only thing I regret was not finding John Adams crypt which seems to be a private church in some town outside of Boston

did visit Quincy though so I got to see his home

Posted by: The Grounded Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at May 31, 2024 05:59 PM (DBZuM)

88 Pelican brief was just a Roberts vehicle. She was just hitting her popularity curve apex IIRC.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 05:59 PM (RUMEY)

89 Ace has had one heck of a heavy content week.

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at May 31, 2024 06:00 PM (G/eSj)

90 89 Ace has had one heck of a heavy content week.
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at May 31, 2024 06:00 PM (G/eSj)

It's all that fiber.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 06:00 PM (RUMEY)

91 So...insurance rates increasing 2000% soon in Boston?

On the other hand, glass replacement outfits and auto body shops will do gold rush town general store-level business. Start one now in Boston!

Posted by: Gref at May 31, 2024 06:00 PM (5fDan)

92 >>People who run companies aren't idiots. Well, except at Disney.

>>But they knew this woke shit would cost them revenue. They just judged the cost vs the pressure from liberal social justice warriors and they deemed that cost acceptable.

There's another element, access to the capital markets. Every company no matter how big needs access to the markets. The big ones in some ways more than the small.

Black Rock, State Street, BOA and others demanded fealty to the woke agenda for access and favorable treatment.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 06:01 PM (LkLld)

93 Boston Mayor @wutrain said she would support a policy that refuses to prosecute the following crimes:

-breaking and entering with property damage
-wanton and malicious destruction of property
-threats

So breaking into someone's home, threatening to kill their entire family, then dragging all their shit out onto the lawn and burning it is not worth prosecuting?

BRB. I'm going to Beacon Hill to do some things at a certain politician's house, reminiscent of Jenjiss Khan.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2024 06:01 PM (Odg76)

94 The only thing I know about Boston is from The Town, The Departed and Wahlburgers. The closest I got was driving to Cape Cod,

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 06:01 PM (SHMXB)

95 Open secret: most of the country music stars in Nashville are on the left.

So when Beyoncé was treated poorly when she played at a country awards show, and it mad her mad enough to make her own "country" album, guess who the real villains are?

Posted by: LizLem at May 31, 2024 06:01 PM (QAK8m)

96 Dis is da ewok of our dis content.

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 31, 2024 06:01 PM (ZdexC)

97 Again, because there's no other mystery except what the Pelican Brief says. So the characters just hide this information from... the reader. Then on page 250 the book prints the brief and it's... stupid and gay
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:58 PM (KRtlO)
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yeah, I don't much like those types of stories where the characters talk vaguely about a subject because all the characters in the story are "in the know." But we, the reader, are left out until the big Reveal at the end, which may be good or bad. Often, it's not worth sticking with the story to find out what everyone else has known the entire time.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 31, 2024 06:02 PM (BpYfr)

98 @85

>>Tom Cruise has a net positive on movies. I think he’s 65% / 35%.

He's been in many good films, ironically, his best films have been comedies and romantic comedies.

He has however, never been in a masterpiece, or essential film.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 06:02 PM (XV/Pl)

99 There's another element, access to the capital markets. Every company no matter how big needs access to the markets. The big ones in some ways more than the small.

Black Rock, State Street, BOA and others demanded fealty to the woke agenda for access and favorable treatment.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 06:01 PM (LkLld)

That's true. I forgot about the bank warfare.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 06:02 PM (RUMEY)

100 Pelican brief was just a Roberts vehicle. She was just hitting her popularity curve apex IIRC.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Denzel was in it so it did have that going for it.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 06:02 PM (oaGWv)

101 TONIGHT!! 2 LAUNCHES CLOSE TOGETHER TIME WISE

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink Group 6-64 - SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: May 31, 2024 (EDT)
Launch Time: 10:11 p.m. EDT, (0211 UTC, 04:11 CEST, June 1)
Launch Window: 6:43 p.m. EDT - 10:43 p.m. EDT

https://www.youtube.com/live/EPUD7A0a4Dc
_____________

Rocket Lab - Electron - Ready, Ai, NASA PREFIRE -
LC-1 - Mahia Peninsula, New Zealand
Launch Date: June 1, 2024 (NZST)
Launch Time: May 31, 11:00 p.m. EDT / June 1, 0300 UTC, 05:00 CEST

https://www.youtube.com/live/ejsB4DKSXOo

Posted by: Ciampino - SPACE X 2 at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (qfLjt)

102 Black Lives Matter group led by Melina Abdullah, a longtime activist and professor.

"Who the fuck are you? You ain't done shit," Abdullah said while sipping on white wine and snacking on strawberries. "And you ain't doing no fucking work..."
_____________________________________

Yes, she certainly sounds educated enough to wear the title of Professor (in a DEI sort of way)

Posted by: Orson at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (dIske)

103 Not surprised a lawyer wouldn't like drama shows about law
I am a carpenter and drama shows about construction are not very real

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (fwDg9)

104 I've visited Boston a few times. Encountered some of the biggest assholes on earth there.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (XMwZJ)

105
I think when I start 'leaking a little bit' it's time to find a home without a 'Nightline' van out front.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (RKVpM)

106 "Encountered some of the biggest assholes on earth there."

It did used to be a whaling town, didn't it...

Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 31, 2024 06:04 PM (ou9hh)

107 103 Not surprised a lawyer wouldn't like drama shows about law
I am a carpenter and drama shows about construction are not very real
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (fwDg9)

This explains why journalists LOVE shows about journalism.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 06:04 PM (RUMEY)

108 I had a great time working in Boston during the early 90s. For the most part it was safe and the history was amazing. Even the cheap lunch boat tour around the harbor was fun. I discovered lobster rolls at of all places a McDonald's and you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a Dunkin Donuts store

Posted by: Beartooth at May 31, 2024 06:04 PM (XT+5H)

109 He has however, never been in a masterpiece, or essential film.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 06:02 PM (XV/Pl)

Rainman might qualify.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 06:05 PM (SHMXB)

110 A lot of the Cruise movies cast him as a superhero, really. And we really really long for a superhero that will take down (or at least take on) the corrupt establishment.

But Trump Guilty while Biden/Hillary e. al walk on every obvious crime, and parents complaining about their child being raped by a tranny (that had raped before, and had it covered up) .. that family gets an FBI visit, just to send a message to the rubes ... "Don't Complain, or We will give You Something to Complain About".

Posted by: illiniwek at May 31, 2024 06:05 PM (Cus5s)

111 Not surprised a lawyer wouldn't like drama shows about law
I am a carpenter and drama shows about construction are not very real
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (fwDg9)

You don’t like those flipping shows?

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 06:06 PM (SHMXB)

112 I saw that Baby Soros posted something dumb on social media, about calling Trump a convicted felon at every opportunity:

"We want people to wrestle with the notion of hiring a convicted felon"

Well there goes the democrats' scheme to get convicted felons rehabilitated into society and restore their voting rights. They are saying how they really feel out loud.

Posted by: LizLem at May 31, 2024 06:06 PM (QAK8m)

113 @109

>>Rainman might qualify.

It's close but Lincoln Osiris said all that needs to be said about Rainman and films about retards.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 06:06 PM (XV/Pl)

114 Risky Business had a lot of memorableness.

Plus DeMornay.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at May 31, 2024 06:06 PM (UfRqq)

115 > I hated The Firm. All it is for half of its length is a wish-fulfillment fantasy about being given huge sums of wealth as a young person for doing nothing but graduating law school. The "plot" is just the thinnest and most obvious structure to justify what would be, without the plot, instantly spotted as nothing but pandering wealth porn.

98% of Grisham's books are anti-big law screeds. The Firm is basically Devil's Advocate without the religion. Beware working for Big Law, yer sellin yer soul! If they pay off your debt and give you a company car, you're in deep, like the mafia! LITERALLY!

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2024 06:06 PM (Odg76)

116 What would Sodom be without Gomorrah? Just another city full of freaks?

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM (o2ZRX)

117 The Firm was worth it for peak hotness Jeanne Tripplehorn.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM (Odg76)

118 “ As with so much else, the presidency of Donald Trump -- built upon a self-conceived human brand -- radically upended those norms.

Post-2016 election, one Adweek column thundered, "Brands cannot expect to play Switzerland as the rest of the world picks a side."”

That doesn’t sound like Trumps fault

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM (YZhRl)

119 I've visited Boston a few times. Encountered some of the biggest assholes on earth there.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (XMwZJ)

Well, it IS the hub of the universe.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM (ufFY8)

120 Okay, I'm going to make my first weekday comment in more than a year to remind people that this all happened before.

All of it.

Stolen elections. Mind-boggling political corruption. Persecution of Christians. Radical socialism including the emptying of prisons and of course purging the military.

Spain, 1936. Look it up. Antifa cut its teeth there. Same damn banners. Oh, and what started the Civil War - the assassination of the leading opposition figure.

Which the government sanctioned. And then things got spicy.

I wrote a book about it, and weekend Morons seem to like it. Ace, please, I thank you for plugging my Star Wars stuff, but this is vital reading.

If you think I'm exaggerating, the commander-in-chief of the Spanish People's Army was a "devout Catholic" who attended weekly Mass in Madrid - served by one of the few priests who wasn't killed in the Republican zone. He was a good Catholic whose troops burned churches. Remind you of anyone?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM (llXky)

121 I hated The Firm. All it is for half of its length is a wish-fulfillment fantasy about being given huge sums of wealth as a young person for doing nothing but graduating law school ... nothing but pandering wealth porn

The book? Agree 100%
The movie? Unlike the book, Cruise is back at square one at the end.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 31, 2024 06:08 PM (yOPBE)

122
Risky Business had a lot of memorableness.

Plus DeMornay.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at May 31, 2024 06:06 PM

She was most memorable on Seinfeld as the clerk at the bookstore where George took the book into the bathroom.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 31, 2024 06:08 PM (RKVpM)

123 Oddly enough, trust the system doesn't work here.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 06:09 PM (OaZlZ)

124 I've visited Boston a few times. Encountered some of the biggest assholes on earth there.

**********

Thats MASSholes to you buddy

Posted by: A Masshole moving to NH because taxes are too high but still voting blue at May 31, 2024 06:09 PM (DBZuM)

125 "A lot of the Cruise movies cast him as a superhero, really. And we really really long for a superhero that will take down (or at least take on) the corrupt establishment."

I thought Jerry Maguire was an excellent movie. Renee Zellweger at her absolute cutest.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 06:09 PM (oaGWv)

126 Cruise ... has however, never been in a masterpiece, or essential film.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

'Fidelio' is the password for the outside of the castle, but what is the password for the inside?

Posted by: you weren't invited at May 31, 2024 06:09 PM (gKWVE)

127 The Firm was worth it for peak hotness Jeanne Tripplehorn.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM (Odg76)

Yes. That was her peak hotness.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 31, 2024 06:09 PM (ufFY8)

128 There was an old time radio program about an “Action packed” Insurance investigator called Johnny Dollar. It wasn’t too bad, as far as it goes. I like Dimension X or Space Patrol a little better

Posted by: Common Tater at May 31, 2024 06:10 PM (I8Xka)

129 Drama construction shows, not DIY or helpful hints shows

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 06:10 PM (fwDg9)

130 Texas needs to collect as many MS-13 gangsters as possible, and then when there is enough to put on an ocean liner, say 5,000 of them, send the liner up to Boston where they can be off-loaded in the middle of the night.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 31, 2024 06:10 PM (xxG/v)

131 I've visited Boston a few times. Encountered some of the biggest assholes on earth there.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (XMwZJ)

Well, it IS the hub of the universe.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM

Can confirm.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 31, 2024 06:10 PM (Wnv9h)

132 110 A lot of the Cruise movies cast him as a superhero, really. And we really really long for a superhero that will take down (or at least take on) the corrupt establishment.

But Trump Guilty while Biden/Hillary e. al walk on every obvious crime, and parents complaining about their child being raped by a tranny (that had raped before, and had it covered up) .. that family gets an FBI visit, just to send a message to the rubes ... "Don't Complain, or We will give You Something to Complain About".

Posted by: illiniwek at May 31, 2024 06:05 PM (Cus5s)

Ultra-Partisan Nutjobs with badges and indictment and prosecution power are now the law in FedGov and every Blue city, county, and state.

Posted by: Gref at May 31, 2024 06:11 PM (5fDan)

133 I still don't get The Usual Suspects.

If verbal Kint is just making it all up then what crime actually happened?

Why is he even in the detective's office.

I...I just don't get it.

Posted by: eleven at May 31, 2024 06:11 PM (iziT8)

134 Last book I read from that asshoe Grisham was "Playing For Pizza".

Like I said, last book from that asshoe that I read.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2024 06:11 PM (R/m4+)

135 But Trump Guilty while Biden/Hillary e. al walk on every obvious crime, and parents complaining about their child being raped by a tranny (that had raped before, and had it covered up) .. that family gets an FBI visit, just to send a message to the rubes ... "Don't Complain, or We will give You Something to Complain About".
Posted by: illiniwek at May 31, 2024 06:05 PM (Cus5s)
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Sensible people have to be pushed, and pushed hard into abandoning the existing order. There need to be repeated outrages, constant affronts to decency, in-your-face hypocrisy.

And above all, they have to be shown that working within the system is impossible.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:11 PM (llXky)

136 you think I'm exaggerating, the commander-in-chief of the Spanish People's Army was a "devout Catholic" who attended weekly Mass in Madrid - served by one of the few priests who wasn't killed in the Republican zone. He was a good Catholic whose troops burned churches. Remind you of anyone?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM (llXky
There is iron in the words of A.H. Lloyd.

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2024 06:11 PM (o2ZRX)

137 The Last Samurai

Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at May 31, 2024 06:11 PM (G/eSj)

138 radically upended those norms.

***************

When norms means yet another Bush-Clinton contest where El Jebo gracefully loses to Pantsuit Pig (because to win is just not who we are), its time for something new

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at May 31, 2024 06:11 PM (DBZuM)

139 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM (llXky)

I had always said our situation was similar to the Spanish Civil War prior to you writing your book. I was happy that someone way more knowledgeable than me confirmed my thoughts.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 06:12 PM (SHMXB)

140 The Firm was mostly made to point out lawyers and their companies who screw over their clients. At the behest of Big Law.

Which is rampant today.

You'd have to be blind not to see it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2024 06:12 PM (Q4IgG)

141 Modern country music is just pop for drunk girls in straw cowboy hats to yell "woooooo" to.

Posted by: brak at May 31, 2024 06:12 PM (9A1yT)

142 Jeanne was still pretty fine in Waterworld but was coasting into MILF territory.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at May 31, 2024 06:12 PM (UfRqq)

143 If Ayn Rand wouldn't have been a godless atheist, she'd have been a prophet.

I liked reading "Atlas Shrugged." I certainly don't like living it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 31, 2024 06:13 PM (tT6L1)

144 I'm going to just confess I don't know who Vox or Vice are.

I'm not doing the thing I just don't know.

I've obviously heard them mentioned here quite often.

Posted by: eleven at May 31, 2024 06:13 PM (iziT8)

145 Shorter: BOYCOTTS WORK

Alinsky 4, good and HARD

Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2024 06:13 PM (Hkcdp)

146 Just found Katyn 2007 Polish movie is now on YouTube, so sad not sure can watch it right now

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 06:13 PM (fwDg9)

147 I...I just don't get it.
Posted by: eleven at May 31, 2024 06:11 PM (iziT

Keyser Sosa.

Been a while since I saw it.
Keyser Sosa was the mastermind.

He was a 'usual suspect', that is why he was in the office.

At least that is my guess.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 31, 2024 06:13 PM (ufFY8)

148 133 I still don't get The Usual Suspects.

If verbal Kint is just making it all up then what crime actually happened?

Why is he even in the detective's office.

I...I just don't get it.
Posted by: eleven at May 31, 2024 06:11 PM (iziT

He’s making up a lot of the little details, but isn’t lying about the major facts (getting arrested, robbing the cops, going to Cali, being approached by the Soze lawyer, the raid on the boat).

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at May 31, 2024 06:14 PM (iSfV4)

149 >>>If verbal Kint is just making it all up then what crime actually happened?

uhhh... good question. But i think he was manipulating the crew to kill the "one single solitary witness would could identify him," who was on the boat.

Why getting captured was all part of his master plan, I could not tell you.

Wheels within wheels.

Say, he's the first Supervillain Who Deliberately Got Captured to Manipulate Law Enforcement, isn't he? Many, many followed, but he was the first.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:14 PM (KRtlO)

150 "Jeanne was still pretty fine in Waterworld but was coasting into MILF territory."

Which is right where I like it.

Posted by: eleven at May 31, 2024 06:14 PM (iziT8)

151 This explains why journalists LOVE shows about journalism.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 06:04 PM (RUMEY)

The problem with seeing All The President's Men in the theater is that you can't hear the dialogue over the sloshing sounds from all the journalists wanking off to it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2024 06:14 PM (vtRd1)

152 "I thought Jerry Maguire was an excellent movie. Renee Zellweger at her absolute cutest." Posted by: Tuna

yeah, Cruise can be good playing roles other than superhero. And it is fun to escape to superhero fantasy land at times. But as Q told us "trust the team, don't act out, we insiders have this under control" ... the call to action for the masses seems more like the real need.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 31, 2024 06:14 PM (Cus5s)

153 I liked The Client and A Time to Kill. One of the best Samuel L Jackson lines:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Pn1ZlkrCQ

But like most leftists, he's peaked, and living on past glory from the 90s has made him bitter and loud.

Posted by: LizLem at May 31, 2024 06:14 PM (QAK8m)

154 We are living in a cold civil war, it could get hot if the wrong thing happens.

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 06:15 PM (fwDg9)

155 "Jeanne was still pretty fine in Waterworld but was coasting into MILF territory."

Which is right where I like it.
Posted by: eleven at May 31, 2024 06:14 PM (iziT

Not me, fat. Over twelve is over the hill in my book.

Posted by: President Potatohead at May 31, 2024 06:15 PM (vtRd1)

156 >>>He’s making up a lot of the little details, but isn’t lying about the major facts (getting arrested, robbing the cops, going to Cali, being approached by the Soze lawyer, the raid on the boat).

we don't really know that. Nothing he says is confirmed by anyone. We just assume most of it must have been true otherwise we'd feel pretty dumb for having just watched a lie for two hours.

but nothing really establishes that any of the story was real. Just the parts we see in current time, and I guess the police records of the arrest and booking of the crew. Everything else could just be a lie.

(And why wouldn't it be? Why should he tell the cops any true thing?)

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:15 PM (KRtlO)

157 "Jeanne was still pretty fine in Waterworld but was coasting into MILF territory."

Which is right where I like it.
Posted by: eleven at May 31, 2024 06:14 PM (iziT

Hell. What's her mom doing?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2024 06:16 PM (W/lyH)

158 The Last Samurai
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC

Ms. Had I kind of liked that movie. Had a nice score too.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 06:16 PM (oaGWv)

159 Meanwhile, I'm finishing copying over the last of my Blackadder DVD's to my Plex server.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 31, 2024 06:16 PM (tT6L1)

160 For all Kevin Spacey's faults, he rarely did a bad acting job.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 06:16 PM (RUMEY)

161 For me

K-Pax >> The Usual Suspects

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 06:16 PM (SHMXB)

162 I had always said our situation was similar to the Spanish Civil War prior to you writing your book. I was happy that someone way more knowledgeable than me confirmed my thoughts.
Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 06:12 PM (SHMXB)
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It bugged the hell out of me, which was why I had to write it.

I really try to tune it all out. I focus on the weekend threads, but when I found out about the "conviction," I knew we were getting into Jose Calvo Sotelo territory.

That was the Spanish conservative leader who was illegally abducted by the police in the middle of the night and then shot. Everyone knew who did it, the government did nothing.

And that's when things got interesting.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:16 PM (llXky)

163 The Usual Suspects was a revenge movie.

He assembled a gang to commit a heist where each member had run afoul of him sometime earlier. Then they all died in the heist by design as retribution.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2024 06:16 PM (Hkcdp)

164 >> I still don't get The Usual Suspects.

>>If verbal Kint is just making it all up then what crime actually happened?

>>Why is he even in the detective's office.

>>I...I just don't get it.

Because the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making the world believe he didn't exist.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 06:16 PM (LkLld)

165 Then on page 250 the book prints the brief and it's... stupid and gay
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 05:58 PM (KRtlO)

Hey, thanks, Ace! I probably wouldn't have read that anyway, but now I will never be tempted to waste my time.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 31, 2024 06:17 PM (OX9vb)

166 we don't really know that. Nothing he says is confirmed by anyone. We just assume most of it must have been true otherwise we'd feel pretty dumb for having just watched a lie for two hours.

but nothing really establishes that any of the story was real. Just the parts we see in current time, and I guess the police records of the arrest and booking of the crew. Everything else could just be a lie.

(And why wouldn't it be? Why should he tell the cops any true thing?)

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:15 PM (KRtlO)

I’m presuming that the LA detective had Kint’s file faxed over from NY which would have the arrests and known associates.

But maybe I am reading it wrong, and he made all of it up - but I don’t think that I am.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at May 31, 2024 06:17 PM (iSfV4)

167 @149

>>Wheels within wheels.

The great thing about The Usual Suspects is that it's a seemingly about a reliable narrator who turns out to be unreliable.

Also Chaz Palminteri should have got an Oscar for his facial expression upon realizing what just happened.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 06:17 PM (XV/Pl)

168 Verbal Kint's story is so completely unevidenced that it's easy to imagine that the guy he tried to frame as Keyser Sose -- Dean Keaton, I think, the guy played by Gabriel Byrne -- might actually be Keyser Sose. He might have sent in Verbal Kint to "try to frame him" as Keyser Sose, then be discovered as making the whole thing up, thus convincing the cops that their original hunch that Keaton was Keyster Sose is false.

And that Keaton is now "really dead." Wink. Which he has pretended to be before, so he'd need a really good cover story to sell the cops on his "death" a second time.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:18 PM (KRtlO)

169 revolutionary cadres should do nothing but critique, "denounce," and anathematize any institution they didn't like until that institution attempted to buy peace by making concession after concession to the Marxists.

It is a great start, but so much more needs to be done!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2024 06:18 PM (P9xGM)

170 The Last Samurai
Posted by: Ben HaduButker made the speech at a CATHOLIC at May 31, 2024 06:11 PM (G/eSj)
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White Savior film based on criminal distortions of history, including self-loathing American who slaughtered Indians.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:19 PM (llXky)

171 Although sometimes they tactically adjust their rhetoric to make it sound like they're asking for reforms, they're not: the end goal is the destruction of the institutions, a razing of them all to the ground, to establish a New World Order starting at Year Zero.
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Marx preached that reform could not be trusted. That institutions *had* to be destroyed. Reform only meant that the corruption would go underground.

He had *a* point. But he chose a horrible one-note "solution" for it. Plus it describes how Marxists act better.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 06:20 PM (OaZlZ)

172 According to the local news, the rookies have said they WILL use tactical nukes, if necessary, if Ukraine attacks Russian territory.

Again, thanks Biden.

We might be looking at Nuke War II.

My bingo card did NOT have Russia/Ukraine...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 31, 2024 06:20 PM (ufFY8)

173
Is it just me or is the left kinda quiet about the Trump persecution? Where are the usual suspects in orgasmic glee?

Impeach forty-five in particular.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 31, 2024 06:21 PM (RKVpM)

174 Verbal was soze and that's it. End of story, literally.

Posted by: N at May 31, 2024 06:21 PM (7h08z)

175 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:16 PM (llXky)

And the useful idiots all think Franco started it out of no where with a coup. They have no idea Franco was thrust into leadership action by other events.

I have been thinking who is our Franco?

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 06:21 PM (SHMXB)

176 >>>Is it just me or is the left kinda quiet about the Trump persecution? Where are the usual suspects in orgasmic glee?

i guess you didn't watch the Joy Behar link

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:21 PM (KRtlO)

177 Boston Mayor @wutrain said she would support a policy that refuses to prosecute the following crimes:

-
-
-
-receiving stolen property

Ok
I got $50 bucks for every bit of family jewelry.
But she's a dem so probably all paste.
Ok, $5 bucks.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2024 06:22 PM (W/lyH)

178 Verbal Kint created Keyser Soze. He made him the arch villain behind a massive crime wave and while everyone was looking for Soze nobody was looking at the cripple who always just seemed to be there.

Keyser Soze existed only in the imagination of the real mastermind, Verbal Kint.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 06:22 PM (LkLld)

179 Benicio Del Toro should have gotten an Oscar for making up a whole accent.

Mumble mumble.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 06:22 PM (RUMEY)

180 And the useful idiots all think Franco started it out of no where with a coup. They have no idea Franco was thrust into leadership action by other events.

I have been thinking who is our Franco?
Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2024 06:21 PM (SHMXB)
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You're asking the wrong question.

The correct one is: Who is our Mola?

I'm going to suggest Texas is the US version of Navarre.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:22 PM (llXky)

181 >>>174 Verbal was soze and that's it. End of story, literally.

Verbal was a pawn of Dean Keaton. It all fits together. I'll explain it all in my 3 hour "Usual Suspects -- the Secret History" video.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:22 PM (KRtlO)

182 Boston Mayor @wutrain said she would support a policy that refuses to prosecute the following crimes: ...

I posted this a couple of days ago and made the point that this is how one gets vigilantism. Now I need to add 'backhoe operators', sorry for forgetting that important bit.
Seriously, with non-laws like that the cops wouldn't come and help you so you help yourself and neighbors. Chip in and buy a backhoes per street.

Posted by: Ciampino - Classifieds: Have backhoe - will travel at May 31, 2024 06:22 PM (qfLjt)

183 @133 If verbal Kint is just making it all up then what crime actually happened?

Why is he even in the detective's office.

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A ship in the harbor got attacked, and some people died. That part is not made up. That's why the detective is talking to him.

Posted by: junior at May 31, 2024 06:22 PM (m/Yzk)

184
it just me or is the left kinda quiet about the Trump persecution? Where are the usual suspects in orgasmic glee?

Ask shah of Iran how creating martyrs goes.

Posted by: N at May 31, 2024 06:23 PM (7h08z)

185 Here's something that will get the attention of TPTB PDQ: everybody cancels their cable TV service. Unlike a tax strike, it's legal. It saves cable subscribers around $2K/yr. It hits the media and advertisers right in the pocketbook, and they will take immediate notice.

Of course, not a hope in hell that anybody will do that. Just suggestin'.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at May 31, 2024 06:23 PM (MvF+J)

186 @179

>>Mumble mumble.

Del Toro aka, discount Brad Pit, cut his teeth in his early career with mumble acting.

He was great in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas also as Frankie Four Fingers.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2024 06:24 PM (XV/Pl)

187
>>>Is it just me or is the left kinda quiet about the Trump persecution? Where are the usual suspects in orgasmic glee?

>>>
i guess you didn't watch the Joy Behar link

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:21 PM

Yeah, I did but was unsure if that was orgasmic or urinary incontinence. At her age I'm going with door #2.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 31, 2024 06:24 PM (RKVpM)

188
Also Chaz Palminteri should have got an Oscar for his facial expression upon realizing what just happened.

Now youse can't leave...

Posted by: wait wrong movie at May 31, 2024 06:24 PM (v1rFs)

189 Ffs everything was orchestrated by soze to murder the guy in the boat that was going to identify soze to the feds.

Posted by: N at May 31, 2024 06:24 PM (7h08z)

190 >>>A ship in the harbor got attacked, and some people died. That part is not made up. That's why the detective is talking to him.

yes that part is true, but what else is?

And the question "Why is he even in the police station?" is a good one. If he's such a master criminal, he must be there for a reason. Is it just to convince everyone that Keyser Sose was Dean Keaton? Well, if so, he failed, because Chazz Palmenteri figures it out, and not only that, but the one living eyewitness provides a description to the police artist showing that Keyser Sose looks exactly like Verbal Kint, so if that was his goal, he failed.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:25 PM (KRtlO)

191 White Savior film based on criminal distortions of history, including self-loathing American who slaughtered Indians.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Damn. Way to take the joy out a viewing experience. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 06:25 PM (oaGWv)

192 >>A ship in the harbor got attacked, and some people died. That part is not made up. That's why the detective is talking to him.

And Verbal Kint did the attacking.

Some of you guys need to go watch the movie again.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 06:25 PM (LkLld)

193 Black Lives Matter group led by Melina Abdullah, a longtime activist and professor.

"Who the fuck are you? You ain't done shit," Abdullah said while sipping on white wine and snacking on strawberries. "And you ain't doing no fucking work..."
_____________________________________

Yes, she certainly sounds educated enough to wear the title of Professor (in a DEI sort of way)

Posted by: Orson at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (dIske)
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Whom did she plagiarize? I can't stand the suspense.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 06:25 PM (YqDXo)

194 Peak Tripplehorn was Basic Instinct,

That film was near smut, and she was wonderfully smutty in it.

Posted by: She was crazy hot at May 31, 2024 06:26 PM (V150o)

195 Hey Grisham, i have a book idea.
All the *stars* on a women only progressive talk show show up dead in the same trash filled gutter of a major American urban center.
What do ya think?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2024 06:26 PM (W/lyH)

196 Last Samurai is hard to take for a lot of reasons. Not least of which that the Samurai class was basically somewhere between mafia bosses and Gospel-era Roman tax collectors at that point in Japanese history. The real Huwhite Saviors in the story were the guys trying to open Japan up for trade.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at May 31, 2024 06:26 PM (UfRqq)

197 104 I've visited Boston a few times. Encountered some of the biggest assholes on earth there.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (XMwZJ)
_________________

I lived there for five years, and that was my impression also.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 06:26 PM (YqDXo)

198 Boston Mayor @wutrain s

Interesting she has the same email for work she had for her sexworkr days

Posted by: N at May 31, 2024 06:26 PM (7h08z)

199 >>>And Verbal Kint did the attacking.

So Verbal Kint *wants the cops to believe.*

Sure he gets them to believe that by telling them a huge lie which is then as exposed as a lie, but in the end, they think that Verbal Kint is Keyser Sose.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:26 PM (KRtlO)

200 Marx preached that reform could not be trusted. That institutions *had* to be destroyed. Reform only meant that the corruption would go underground.

He had *a* point. But he chose a horrible one-note "solution" for it. Plus it describes how Marxists act better.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 06:20 PM (OaZlZ)
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Marxism has come to be associated with either Stalinism or Leninism, but Span showed a third strain - one that scared Stalin greatly - Anarchism.

Yes, folks, Anarchism was traditionally Liberterian Communism. Go look it up. The workers would create syndicates and abolish the state. Corporate syndicates.

See, using state power is bad, but Muh Corporations using power, that's just the people working through their businesses. Perfectly okay.

It's all been done before.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:27 PM (llXky)

201 Verbal Kint did the attacking.

Some of you guys need to go watch the movie again.
Posted by: JackStraw

Or watch it for the first time

Posted by: N at May 31, 2024 06:27 PM (7h08z)

202 Whoa!
That must have been one bad movie.
Should I read the whole review?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 31, 2024 06:27 PM (Norbf)

203 Whom did she plagiarize? I can't stand the suspense.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 06:25 PM (YqDXo)
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Based on the brief sentence, I'm going with Samuel L. Jackson or Ice T.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 31, 2024 06:27 PM (tT6L1)

204 "I've visited Boston a few times. Encountered some of the biggest assholes on earth there."

And they're all on the beltway, driving around the city. They'll pass you on the right, they'll pass you on the shoulders, and they'll never slow down to within 30MPH of the speed limit. Worst traffic experience evah.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at May 31, 2024 06:28 PM (MvF+J)

205 I've read your book, A.H. Lloyd. It's a good one. Yeah, the Cotelo comparision is very scary, because it's so on point.

And I fully expect the Biden regime to try if if they think they cannot cheat enough to win the election.

Isn't your book on Kindle unlimited for those who want to read it?

Posted by: SimoHayha at May 31, 2024 06:28 PM (N/k1H)

206 I'm not sure I believe in a category of masterpiece or essential films, but Eyes Wide Shut was a very good Cruise film (more than just entertaining). I think it will age well and be better esteemed than it is today.

Posted by: but what do I know at May 31, 2024 06:29 PM (V150o)

207 >>Sure he gets them to believe that by telling them a huge lie which is then as exposed as a lie, but in the end, they think that Verbal Kint is Keyser Sose.

He was. That was what Chaz finally got when he dropped his coffee and went running after Kint after getting the faxed drawing of the killer by the police artist who had interviewed the sole survivor of the attack.

But just like *chef's kiss* he was gone.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 06:29 PM (LkLld)

208 And they're all on the beltway, driving around the city. They'll pass you on the right, they'll pass you on the shoulders, and they'll never slow down to within 30MPH of the speed limit. Worst traffic experience evah.
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at May 31, 2024 06:28 PM (MvF+J)
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But, have they perfected the art of getting up to 40mph on a 4 mile long on ramp and cutting into traffic that's doing 70? If not, then they need to visit CA.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 31, 2024 06:30 PM (tT6L1)

209 Last Samurai is hard to take for a lot of reasons. Not least of which that the Samurai class was basically somewhere between mafia bosses and Gospel-era Roman tax collectors at that point in Japanese history. The real Huwhite Saviors in the story were the guys trying to open Japan up for trade.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at May 31, 2024 06:26 PM (UfRqq)
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Yes, the Samurai class had grown so large that the peasants couldn't feed them anymore, so Tom Cruise is basically defending the right of people to draw pretty pictures while others are worked and starved to death.

Fun fact: Samurai were banned from the Army for decades after the Satsuma Rebellion. Army officers were recruited from the growing middle class and Japanese troops in the wars of the 19th Century were praised by Europeans for their scrupulous adherence to the laws of war.

Then they let the Samurai back in...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:30 PM (llXky)

210 The Usual Suspects was plagiarized, nihilistic garbage.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2024 06:30 PM (IG4Id)

211 I'm not sure I believe in a category of masterpiece or essential films, but Eyes Wide Shut was a very good Cruise film (more than just entertaining). I think it will age well and be better esteemed than it is today.
Posted by: b

It's is nothing but a mome, dime a dozen

Posted by: N at May 31, 2024 06:30 PM (7h08z)

212 Yes, folks, Anarchism was traditionally Liberterian Communism. Go look it up. The workers would create syndicates and abolish the state. Corporate syndicates.

See, using state power is bad, but Muh Corporations using power, that's just the people working through their businesses. Perfectly okay.

It's all been done before.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:27 PM (llXky)
***

So. Cartels of Mexico?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2024 06:31 PM (W/lyH)

213 >>> I'm not sure I believe in a category of masterpiece or essential films, but Eyes Wide Shut was a very good Cruise film (more than just entertaining).

i'm on the fence about it. It is entertaining, and has a very mysterious and atmospheric feel, but in the end it all turns out to be kayfabe. I mean, shrug, whatever.

But, and I'm sure people have said this many times before, it's like spending the whole night thinking you're going to get laid and then not even getting to first base.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:31 PM (KRtlO)

214 Last Samurai is hard to take for a lot of reasons. Not least of which that the Samurai class was basically somewhere between mafia bosses and Gospel-era Roman tax collectors at that point in Japanese history. The real Huwhite Saviors in the story were the guys trying to open Japan up for trade.
Posted by: leoncaruthers

I try not to over analyze movies that I know are fantasy. I liked the actors especially Hiroyuki Sanada when he beats the crap out of Algren with a stick.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 06:32 PM (oaGWv)

215 >>>But just like *chef's kiss* he was gone.

He's gone except the police now know that Keyser Sose is real and in fact they have a near-perfect sketch of him. Photos, too, of course, because they have Verbal Kint's photos.

So.... that was his plan?

Or was that... *Dean Keaton's plan?*

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:33 PM (KRtlO)

216
Eyes Wide Shut was a couple hours of disappointment with characters who should not have disappointed.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 31, 2024 06:33 PM (RKVpM)

217 @190 And the question "Why is he even in the police station?" is a good one.

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The detective brings him in because the detective thinks he can provide the evidence to pin the crime on the "friend", who the detective has been trying to bust for a long time. But Verbal has friends outside who immediately start putting pressure on the detective to release Verbal. It's why he's let go.

The story is just a yarn that Verbal spun up to fill the time until the detective was forced to either charge him, or let him go.

Posted by: junior at May 31, 2024 06:33 PM (m/Yzk)

218 I've visited Boston a few times. Encountered some of the biggest assholes on earth there.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 31, 2024 06:03 PM (XMwZJ)

Well, it IS the hub of the universe.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 31, 2024 06:07 PM
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If they were going to give the earth an enema, they'd stick the nozzle in Boston.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 06:34 PM (YqDXo)

219 "If not, then they need to visit CA."

I drove through California coast once. Brakes were smoking.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at May 31, 2024 06:34 PM (MvF+J)

220 Isn't your book on Kindle unlimited for those who want to read it?
Posted by: SimoHayha at May 31, 2024 06:28 PM (N/k1H)
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Yeah, I know some folks hate Amazon, but they're still the best option for indie authors. I'd recommend the paperback, though, because it's harder to delete remotely.

Oh, the book is Long Live Death: The Keys to Victory in the Spanish Civil War by me. It's got strategy, and cool illustrations of strange aircraft, but the political situation is also covered - and unlike almost all the other historians on the topic, I don't spew the b.s. that the Spanish Republic was "muh Democracy." It was a socialist dictatorship that was on the way to becoming a Soviet satellite.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:34 PM (llXky)

221 Good Cruise movies:

Knight and Day
Edge of Tomorrow

Posted by: Lizzy at May 31, 2024 06:34 PM (Hkcdp)

222 Oh, I liked the cast of it too. Ken Watanabe makes Cruise vanish when they're on screen together.

But it's like watching Star Wars entirely from the Empire's POV.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at May 31, 2024 06:34 PM (UfRqq)

223 Have you ever watched all the Kubrick conspiracy stuff?

Eyes wide shut was him exposing the elite (Epstein) and he was killed for it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 06:35 PM (RUMEY)

224 The Las t Samurai might be only Samurai movie I watched just once and don't need to see again

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 06:35 PM (fwDg9)

225 I used to think "Eyes Wide Shut" was fiction. Not anymore.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at May 31, 2024 06:35 PM (MvF+J)

226 Remember the scene in Usual Suspects where Kobyashi shows up to blackmail Keaton and the gang to do a crime? He was supposed to be Soze's righthand man and they were doing the job because they had done something in their past to harm Soze and doing the job would make them square.

Who picked Verbal Kint up after he left the police station at the end of the movie?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 06:35 PM (LkLld)

227 Ffs everything was orchestrated by soze to murder the guy in the boat that was going to identify soze to the feds.
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The little man in the boat is a myth!!

Posted by: andycanuck (ZdexC) at May 31, 2024 06:36 PM (ZdexC)

228 >>If they were going to give the earth an enema, they'd stick the nozzle in Boston.

You live in Southern California. Your judgement might be a bit in question.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 06:36 PM (LkLld)

229 I enjoyed Long Live Death as a primer how a potential Civil War here might happen.

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 06:37 PM (fwDg9)

230 I thought the man in the boat was real and the O's were the myth.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at May 31, 2024 06:37 PM (UfRqq)

231 > Eyes wide shut was him exposing the elite (Epstein) and he was killed for it.

I've heard the mansion in that movie belonged to Epstein. If so, that's quite interesting.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2024 06:37 PM (Odg76)

232 The little man in the boat is a myth!!
Posted by: andy

No he's real but the spot is a myth

Posted by: N at May 31, 2024 06:38 PM (7h08z)

233 Never saw Eyes Wide Shut

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 06:38 PM (fwDg9)

234 Thank you for reading Vox so we don’t have to. Way to take one for the team.

Posted by: Misanthropic Misanthrope at May 31, 2024 06:39 PM (Y2NGV)

235 Where's all the "we nailed Trump!" gloating? Subdued, because they want it to seem apolitical.

Unfortunately for them, they now have themselves in a "Decarceration" Bind. Free Trump!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 31, 2024 06:39 PM (wBaIH)

236 Let's get real, San Francisco probably needs to receive the enema, but, they'd enjoy it too much. Which leaves Boston.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 31, 2024 06:39 PM (tT6L1)

237 So. Cartels of Mexico?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2024 06:31 PM (W/lyH)
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Google, Facebook, Disney.

Twitter being broken free is interesting.

There's a passage in my book (courtesy of a Moron who translated it from the Spanish for me, bless her!), where the Nationalist viewpoint is summed up in a way that perfectly reflects today.

The person wrote that the opposition to the Republic had nothing in common but hate with what was going on. The rose against the lawlessness, the crime, the church burning, businesses being destroyed, the ideology - they didn't know what would come next, but they could no longer accept the way things were.

It was a rebellion of the normies.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:39 PM (llXky)

238 And they're all on the beltway, driving around the city. They'll pass you on the right, they'll pass you on the shoulders, and they'll never slow down to within 30MPH of the speed limit. Worst traffic experience evah.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at May 31, 2024 06:28 PM (MvF+J)
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I once saw a guy in Boston drive up on raised divider (curb height), gun his car down the divider, then come back off the divider to cut off an ambulance that had its lights and siren on.

I couldn't believe my eyes.

I had a new car that I drove to Boston. The first day I was there I stopped for a traffic light that had turned yellow. Behind me there were screeching tires as three or four guys stood on the brakes and then swore at me. I didn't know that it was customary for three or four car to run a light there just after the light turned red, so when they'd been accelerating as I was stopping for a yellow light.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 06:40 PM (YqDXo)

239 Let's get real, San Francisco probably needs to receive the enema, but, they'd enjoy it too much. Which leaves Boston.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 31, 2024 06:39 PM (tT6L1)

50 KT oughta do it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2024 06:40 PM (W/lyH)

240 San Francisco probably needs to receive the enema, but, they'd enjoy it too much.

Caterpillar

Posted by: N at May 31, 2024 06:41 PM (7h08z)

241 Wait. You mean to tell me that fat women and hairless gay dudes don't sell sexy women's lingerie?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2024 05:22 PM

Some of us steal it, though.

Posted by: Atomic Pup Handler at May 31, 2024 06:41 PM (a3Q+t)

242 So Verbal just starts walking normal at the end, because he's just Verbal?

Did we watch the same movie?

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 06:42 PM (OaZlZ)

243 It was a rebellion of the normies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:39 PM (llXky)

Hmmm
I look forward to reading it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2024 06:42 PM (W/lyH)

244 @235 Where's all the "we nailed Trump!" gloating?

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Publicly, everyone's acting solemn and serious over the matter. On social media, there's a lot of gloating.

Posted by: junior at May 31, 2024 06:43 PM (m/Yzk)

245 Eyes wide shut was him exposing the elite (Epstein) and he was killed for it.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 06:35 PM (RUMEY)
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I mean, it was based on a book about pre-WW I Vienna, but sure.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:43 PM (llXky)

246 >>So Verbal just starts walking normal at the end, because he's just Verbal?

Funny how the cripple nobody watched is the only one who lived.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 06:43 PM (LkLld)

247 I mean, it was based on a book about pre-WW I Vienna, but sure.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:43 PM (llXky)

I'm sure that's what he screamed out as they killed him.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 06:44 PM (RUMEY)

248 >>>So Verbal just starts walking normal at the end, because he's just Verbal?
Did we watch the same movie?

yeah, he was putting on a show.

Did you guys ever read or see "The Spy Who Came In From the Cold"?

You don't convince an enemy of disinformation by telling them the disinformation. They won't believe you.

You convince an enemy of disinformation by telling them a story that they will disbelieve, and then come to the opposite conclusion, which is the actual disinformation you wanted them to believe.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:44 PM (KRtlO)

249 The person wrote that the opposition to the Republic had nothing in common but hate with what was going on. The rose against the lawlessness, the crime, the church burning, businesses being destroyed, the ideology - they didn't know what would come next, but they could no longer accept the way things were.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:39 PM (llXky)
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Sounds familiar. I know leftists vilify Franco, but I had a pretty good opinion of him. Yeah, he jacked up a bunch of commies after winning the civil war, but the commies were doing the same thing to the Nationalists, and to each other, for that matter, and would have finished off the Nationalists if they'd won the war.

So Franco saved Spain from communism, played Hitler and Mussolini for weapons and troops, and later kept Spain out of WWII, to the annoyance of Adolf & Co. Pretty fancy footwork.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 06:44 PM (YqDXo)

250 I once saw a guy in Boston drive up on raised divider (curb height), gun his car down the divider, then come back off the divider to cut off an ambulance that had its lights and siren on.

I couldn't believe my eyes.

I've seen video of ambulances in big cities stuck in traffic with lights and sirens running and nobodies making any effort to move out of the way. It was a nice reminder to stay out of the damn cities.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2024 06:44 PM (Odg76)

251 Publicly, everyone's acting solemn and serious over the matter. On social media, there's a lot of gloating.
Posted by: junior at May 31, 2024 06:43 PM (m/Yzk)
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They think his incarceration is going to be awesome.

And then Melania and the Ladies in White will begin their prayer vigil outside the prison...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:45 PM (llXky)

252 Are we willowed?

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2024 06:45 PM (fwDg9)

253 You convince an enemy of disinformation by telling them a story that they will disbelieve, and then come to the opposite conclusion, which is the actual disinformation you wanted them to believe.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:44 PM (KRtlO

That's how I got my ex wife to do shit.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2024 06:45 PM (RUMEY)

254 “ 16 People who say, "they won't like the new rules " are almost universally the ones who urged restraint under the old rules.

Sure, they plead for caution in every chance to justifiably apply the old rules.

But now that they hear the "olly-olly oxen free!" they are gonna lead the charge for retribution.

Nah. They'll whine about how we should still follow the old rules to show how much better we and those rules are.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 31, 2024 05:35 PM (g9W3m)”

Instapundit Glenn Reynolds, come on down

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 31, 2024 06:46 PM (YZhRl)

255 You convince an enemy of disinformation by telling them a story that they will disbelieve, and then come to the opposite conclusion, which is the actual disinformation you wanted them to believe.

I know that you know that I know that you want to fuck me.

Posted by: Ralph Kramdem according to Eddie Murphy at May 31, 2024 06:47 PM (V150o)

256 *nobody's

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2024 06:47 PM (Odg76)

257 So Franco saved Spain from communism, played Hitler and Mussolini for weapons and troops, and later kept Spain out of WWII, to the annoyance of Adolf & Co. Pretty fancy footwork.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 06:44 PM (YqDXo)
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Yeah, and then he managed to get US support by pointing out that he was anti-Communist before it was fashionable!

Look it up. Seriously, go look it up. Franco's Spain saw a massive increase prosperity - rocketed from a third-world nation with illiteracy to an advanced economy in the space of a generation, and it did without famines or "Great Leaps Forward."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:47 PM (llXky)

258 Yeah, and then he managed to get US support by pointing out that he was anti-Communist before it was fashionable!

Look it up. Seriously, go look it up. Franco's Spain saw a massive increase prosperity - rocketed from a third-world nation with illiteracy to an advanced economy in the space of a generation, and it did without famines or "Great Leaps Forward."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:47 PM (llXky)
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Yep. He was Pinochet before there was a Pinochet.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2024 06:50 PM (YqDXo)

259 Radio station is playing Ravel's Bolero. I hate that piece of music with heat of a thousand suns. Time to go fold some clean laundry.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 06:50 PM (oaGWv)

260 >>You convince an enemy of disinformation by telling them a story that they will disbelieve, and then come to the opposite conclusion, which is the actual disinformation you wanted them to believe.

You''re overthinking this one. Verbal Kint created a larger than life criminal mastermind who was the complete opposite of the slightly slow, crippled Verbal Kint. He had everyone chasing a shadow so that he could orchestrate a hit on the one guy who could identify the real criminal mastermind, Verbal Kint.

It was right there in the police sketch from the lone survivor and it was right there at the end of the movie when Verbal miraculously lost his crippled condition and got in the car with Kobayashi and drove away as Chaz finally understood that he had been played.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 06:51 PM (LkLld)

261 Look it up. Seriously, go look it up. Franco's Spain saw a massive increase prosperity - rocketed from a third-world nation with illiteracy to an advanced economy in the space of a generation, and it did without famines or "Great Leaps Forward."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:47 PM (llXky)
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But Marxist professors have rewritten history.

There is only their "side of History" or fascists.

It's amazing how many dunces have bought this dichotomy.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 06:53 PM (OaZlZ)

262 Radio station is playing Ravel's Bolero. I hate that piece of music with heat of a thousand suns. Time to go fold some clean laundry.
Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 06:50 PM (oaGWv)

Everyone thinks of Torvel and Dean ice dancing in the Olympics.
I think of my fraternity initiation.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2024 06:55 PM (W/lyH)

263 So Joy Behar went on national TV to tell everyone she peed herself in the middle of Costco? And she thought that was a good idea? Good lord.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2024 06:55 PM (Dstek)

264 >>>You''re overthinking this one. Verbal Kint created a larger than life criminal mastermind who was the complete opposite of the slightly slow, crippled Verbal Kint. He had everyone chasing a shadow so that he could orchestrate a hit on the one guy who could identify the real criminal mastermind, Verbal Kint.

jack, I understand the movie. You're telling me the plot. Yes, I know.

I'm being cheeky. But I'm also spinning out a theory that would explain a massive plot hole -- The master criminal deliberately gets caught for no other reason than to convince the cops that Keyser Sose is Dean Keaton, but then completely failed at this mission when his tissue of lies comes apart and the cops realize Verbal Kint was Keyser Sose all along.

Plus, the sketch comes in showing Verbal Kint is Keyser Sose.

So he went to all of this effort, and got himself captured, only to fail at the one thing he was trying to do.

You. Had. One Job, Keyser Sose.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2024 06:56 PM (KRtlO)

265 Lots of geriatric women are incontinent.

Most know better than to brag about it.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at May 31, 2024 06:57 PM (UfRqq)

266 Yes, folks, Anarchism was traditionally Liberterian Communism. Go look it up. The workers would create syndicates and abolish the state. Corporate syndicates.
See, using state power is bad, but Muh Corporations using power, that's just the people working through their businesses. Perfectly okay.
It's all been done before.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:27 PM (llXky)

anarchism is an outgrowth of the Paris commune, with the attempt to set the workers as a power base within the general society, with their labor being considered more important that the capital investment of the business owners. it is a communist creed like that of the Levellers, and it led to the anarcho-syncicalist movement in France, Italy, Spain and later Argentina. Italian fascism was an attempt to bring it as a political movement under government control by creating a government cartel with the unions and the business owners.
to call the Asturian miners or Basque factory workers, for example, on the same level as the violence junkies in Portland is a bit much

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 06:58 PM (D7oie)

267 Radio station is playing Ravel's Bolero. I hate that piece of music with heat of a thousand suns. Time to go fold some clean laundry.
Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2024 06:50 PM (oaGWv)
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There are some excellent pieces written by Ravel. Bolero, I don't consider one of them.

I think of Fripp's Lizard as kind of like Bolero, and I like that so much better.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 06:58 PM (OaZlZ)

268 I mean, it was based on a book about pre-WW I Vienna, but sure.

The "elites" have never changed.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2024 06:59 PM (Dstek)

269 >>So he went to all of this effort, and got himself captured, only to fail at the one thing he was trying to do.

>>You. Had. One Job, Keyser Sose.

And yet he got away once again.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2024 07:04 PM (LkLld)

270 That Marx's main audience were the remnants of the Jacobin revolution, was a recent revelation to me.

Which shows that Marxists and Jacobins were cut from the same cloth. It was not two different blights, it was one.

Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2024 07:08 PM (OaZlZ)

271 Look it up. Seriously, go look it up. Franco's Spain saw a massive increase prosperity - rocketed from a third-world nation with illiteracy to an advanced economy in the space of a generation, and it did without famines or "Great Leaps Forward."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2024 06:47 PM (llXky)

was this great prosperity why the Germans and English went to Spain for cheap vacations, and the reason Italian films were made there because they were cheaper to make there than in Italy?

Per all my Spanish profs, Spain was an economic backwater, the sort of place where it was perfectly normal to not have heating, so the family sat around a table in the winter with an extra long tablecloth to keep in the heat from the charcoal brazier lit underneath it.
They blamed Franco's economic policies for it, and felt the limited NATO alliance was not a good deal for Spain.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 07:09 PM (D7oie)

272

My favorite thing is when Faith shits in my mouth after pegging me with a fifteen inch black strap on...

Posted by: T. McGraw at May 31, 2024 07:12 PM (olKMd)

273 actually I am being unfair, one of the reasons that Italy filmed in Spain was that foreign funds that were in Spain due to trade imbalances could not merely be transferred back out, and instead were required to buy Spanish goods so the the goods and manufactures would be shipped out, it is a mercantilist form of economy.
Filmiing was a way to repatriate some of that cash

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2024 07:15 PM (D7oie)

274 In the past 24 hours Trump has raised $53 million.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 31, 2024 07:47 PM (NpAcC)

275 All of this airbrushing of the past for the sake of psychological safety in the present was a harbinger of the grimness to come, partly because it provoked no audible internal dissent and went unnoticed by the outside world.

It certainly went unnoticed by me as I don't even know what Vice is. A magazine?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 31, 2024 07:55 PM (NJ4Re)

276 err Vox

Never mind.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 31, 2024 08:02 PM (NJ4Re)

277 disinformation?

how about
MEXICO WILL PAY FOR THE WALL I PROMISE YOU THAT.

the Elites? Out of the 20 richest American billionaires 14 give to the GOP. Obviously they do that because? they are looking after the interests of the working class?

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