UNC Faculty Makes Terrorist Demand: We'll Withhold All Students' Grades Unless the Administration Promises Amnesty for the Pro-Terror "Protesters"

The terrorists-in-training were initially permitted to protest -- until they began to "take over" the school and make it unusable by actual students.

UNC-Chapel Hill police charged 36 members of a pro-Palestinian "Gaza solidarity encampment" Tuesday morning after warning the group to remove its tents from campus or face possible arrest, suspension or expulsion from the university. University officials confirmed Tuesday evening that 30 people -- including 10 students -- were cited for trespassing and released on site after they refused to leave the encampment at Polk Place, the university's main quad. Twenty of those cited are not affiliated with the university. Six more demonstrators were charged and taken to the Orange County jail for booking, after which they were released on a written promise to appear in court. At least one person was charged with assault on a government official and resist, delay and obstruct, according to UNC police reports.
The arrests were part of a tension-filled day between demonstrators and law enforcement, with the protest escalating to physical struggles around a flagpole in the center of Polk Place when an American flag was taken down and a Palestinian flag was hung in its place. Protesters also threw water on Interim Chancellor Lee Roberts and the officers as they worked to rehang the flag.
Some protesters attempted to push past the police but did not appear to be successful.
UNC canceled classes Tuesday afternoon for the rest of the day, on the university's last day of classes for the semester. The school said it would also suspend all non-mandatory operations.
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Sofie, an SJP organizer who did not give her last name, said Monday morning that the group planned to stay in the encampment until the university complies with its demands. "We're going to be out here until the university discloses, divests and actually ends complicity in the genocide against the Palestinian people carried out by the U.S. and Israel, Sofie said. In a news release Tuesday, the university said campus police "calmly approached the group" at 6 a.m. and detained people who refused to leave. "During that time, the protesters attempted to block the UNC Police vehicles by standing in front of them and throwing items at officers," the UNC release stated.
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Members of the encampment who were willing to risk arrest, indicated by wearing a red wristband, gathered near the group's tents, while those not willing to do so remained at a distance.

Dividing the protest cadres into color-coded groups segregated based on how many laws they're willing to break, and how much violence they are prepared to use, is an antifa/Black Bloc practice.

Those wearing orange wristbands were willing to serve as "jail support."
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At noon, the demonstrators began marching to South Building, on the other end of the quad. The group, hundreds strong, chanted "Free, free Palestine," and "long live the intifada," among other chants.

The protesters were allowed to do their stupid pro-terrorism exercises so long as they did not interfere with the actual business of the schools. Just like the scorpion that must always sting the frog whose back it rides on, they quickly showed their true natures as destroyers and began invading and "taking over" classrooms.

The SJP is urging professors to withhold grades for any students unless these terrorists are granted amnesty.

They really appreciate the Palestinian Way of taking hostages and issuing demands. Maybe they should all move to that most shitty of all shithole countries.

[A] group of 800 professors at the school are signing a letter demanding that the school reverse all of the suspensions.

The student encampment located on Polk Place was an example of the kind of peaceful free expression that our university claims to uphold. Free speech is often challenging; it can make people uncomfortable, and it can grow heated. But until that speech crosses the line into violence or obstruction, it must be protected, even at the cost of discomfort or patches of grass yellowed by tents. The administration's decision to call in police from across the state to storm our students' encampment at 5:30 in the morning on Tuesday, April 30, created a militarized and unsafe climate on the UNC campus. It subjected the very students it is charged with protecting to violence and trauma...
The university must immediately dismiss all suspensions and other charges against students involved in the protest, return the confiscated belongings of our students, remove the fence around the flagpole in the quad, and re-open Campus Y in recognition of its central importance to our university community.
In short, they want amnesty for everyone involved in the protests. There were no threat included in the letter signed by the professors but the UNC Chapter of SJP is trying to add one. If amnesty isn't granted, they want professors to withhold students' grades.

UNC SJP is seeking to use withheld grades to pressure administrators to reverse student discipline. The group said in a news release that instructors are "withholding grades and demanding the UNC-CH administration grant all protesters amnesty."
At least one professor has indicated he is going to do this until the school meets his (or her) demands.

UNC claims they'll sanction any professor who actually attempts to damage students by withholding their grades.

Fire them.

North Carolina must rewrite the law ending tenure for any professor who refuses to do his job for any reason, if that university takes any state aid.

And then: Fire them.

We cannot live in a society in which the left is always threatening the rest of us into giving them special privileges and immunities, as if they were an imperial noble caste.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:16 PM

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1 st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 08, 2024 03:16 PM (FAGAJ)

2 Top 10

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 08, 2024 03:17 PM (+YRf1)

3 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 08, 2024 03:17 PM (FAGAJ)

4 Wow.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 08, 2024 03:17 PM (EGSGm)

5 Hiya

Posted by: JT at May 08, 2024 03:18 PM (T4tVD)

6 If I were a student whose grades were held hostage, I'd have some ideas about how the professors should be treated in this instance.

Posted by: mr tmz at May 08, 2024 03:18 PM (rJ48h)

7 We cannot live in a society in which the left is always threatening the rest of us into giving them special privileges and immunities, as if they were an imperial noble caste.

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It sounds like you're against Our Precious Democracy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

8 class action lawsuit in the wings?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 08, 2024 03:19 PM (B1FKF)

9 Obviously UNC faculty been injected with the AstraZeneca brainworm.

Posted by: Eromero at May 08, 2024 03:19 PM (NxC5+)

10 Where do you go to buy a Pali flag? Someone just happened to have one?

Posted by: fd at May 08, 2024 03:19 PM (CM7e9)

11 They should do all the above.

Posted by: Plainoldtoast at May 08, 2024 03:20 PM (ytSiK)

12 Every student should sue

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 03:20 PM (FQmDC)

13 This is extortion ... arrest all 800 professors. Problem solved.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 08, 2024 03:20 PM (Cus5s)

14 Fire them, clear out their offices, and set their office shit on the curb. And then tell their TAs to get with the program or they can be sitting in a white box on the curb too.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 08, 2024 03:20 PM (wb1YC)

15 Everyone gets an A!

Oh, faculty members? You're fired.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2024 03:20 PM (dGCAG)

16 So, 10 students out of 30 protesters were arrested. Hmmm, doesn't sound like many students give an excrement about protesting whatever they are protesting? Again, a fake and gay protest movement, sponsored by clownworld.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 08, 2024 03:21 PM (+YRf1)

17 Ah, the old 8 year old child's trick of "I won't do this unless you do that".

A little smacky whacky and whadda ya know.

The Grades Would Be Released.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 08, 2024 03:21 PM (4a+k3)

18 I mean...are we talking about students who have actual majors? Or the fake kind of majors?

If so who, meaning me, gives a fuck?

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 03:21 PM (fV+MH)

19 And then: Fire them.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:16 PM

Out of a cannon. Into the Sun.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 08, 2024 03:21 PM (FAGAJ)

20 UNC claims they'll sanction any professor who actually attempts to damage students by withholding their grades.

Fire them. For cause. No funemployment for you.

And do it in the most humiliating fashion possible. In full view of everyone. Personally escort them off the premises with at least 3 armed guards each. Then give them a restraining/trespass order to never ever return to campus property.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 08, 2024 03:21 PM (N39Ws)

21 A Kent State incident is likely to happen. It will make people chose sides. Students will think twice about protesting as they might get shot . The paid protesters might also slink away
I say go Kent State

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 08, 2024 03:22 PM (5S+sK)

22 The protesters were allowed to do their stupid pro-terrorism exercises so long as they did not interfere with the actual business of the schools. Just like the scorpion that must always sting the frog whose back it rides on, they quickly showed their true natures as destroyers and began invading and "taking over" classrooms.
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Of course. It has to happen this way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:22 PM (HnUIn)

23 Read during the protests a student asked why they were getting arrested and doing what they were taught to do

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 03:22 PM (fwDg9)

24 I'm late to the blog today. Just saw the bit about RFK Jr.

What is it with Kennedys and losing parts of their brains?

Posted by: Azathoth at May 08, 2024 03:22 PM (wb1YC)

25 Sue students sue. The university and the professors. You paid money and did the work, won't br hard to find a judge to say that's a contract.

Posted by: Bete at May 08, 2024 03:23 PM (LX4y3)

26 During that time, the protesters attempted to block the UNC Police vehicles by standing in front of them and throwing items at officers," the UNC release stated.
Members of the encampment who were willing to risk arrest, indicated by wearing a red wristband, gathered near the group's tents, while those not willing to do so remained at a distance.

I DGAF what you are wearing. Throw shit at me and I'll put bumps on your noggin.

Posted by: rickb223 Proud Pureblood at May 08, 2024 03:23 PM (w0gh0)

27 hey funny someone mentioned Kent State

know what they were protesting for, the leftists there?

pro Khmer Rouge

THEY WERE SUPPORTING THE KHMER ROUGE

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 03:23 PM (s3qiR)

28 No but seriously, I'm happy all this stuff is happening. Break it all down, destroy it, burn it to the ground.

When the university system is no longer viewed as sacred, the world can breathe easier.

So please, keep doing what you're doing, people.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2024 03:23 PM (dGCAG)

29 Where’s a school shooter when you need one?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 08, 2024 03:23 PM (JTwsP)

30 How many professors in total do they have?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (63Dwl)

31 No problem. Everyone fails!

Posted by: IrishEi at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (3ImbR)

32 Would be very interesting if there was a big you know what perpetrated by you know who right about now.

Wonder how the aftermath would go.

Well I don't but it would be interesting.

Posted by: ... at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (bq4Gb)

33 Where I work, if a faculty member doesn't turn in their grades on time, the Registrar is authorized to withhold their pay until it happens. They quickly get the message.

Usually just the implied threat is enough to get their grades into the Registrar's Office.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (7fElN)

34 I'm late to the blog today. Just saw the bit about RFK Jr.

What is it with Kennedys and losing parts of their brains?
Posted by: Azathoth at May 08, 2024 03:22 PM

Err, uh, (hic), You'd have to ahsk my fahther.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (FAGAJ)

35 Want to never buy a drink in a bar again in NC? Fire every protesting professor, and expel the punk students.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (Z8Yh2)

36 did you guys see the thing at like U of Washington I think where some frat guys challenge the intifada guy (masked and speaking thru a megaphone?!?!) to a push up contest?

it was pretty hilarious

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (s3qiR)

37 hey funny someone mentioned Kent State

know what they were protesting for, the leftists there?

pro Khmer Rouge

THEY WERE SUPPORTING THE KHMER ROUGE
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08,

I didn't know that.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (5Iswh)

38 The administration's decision to call in police from across the state to storm our students' encampment at 5:30 in the morning on Tuesday, April 30, created a militarized and unsafe climate on the UNC campus. It subjected the very students it is charged with protecting to violence and trauma.
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Y'know what I'm sick to death of hearing?

The word "trauma."

Your dad yelled at you? Trauma. You had a bad relationship? It was due to "trauma-bonding." You're brittle and unstable? It's due to "trauma." Got arrested for breaking the law? Trauma.

Bullshit. Trauma is real, but now it's just another damn thing that's collapsed into semantic satiation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (HnUIn)

39 Roy cooper is just the man we need to take care of this!

Posted by: nckate at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (4bYb7)

40 UNC SJP is seeking to use withheld grades to pressure administrators to reverse student discipline. The group said in a news release that instructors are "withholding grades and demanding the UNC-CH administration grant all protesters amnesty."
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I hope they do it. Go ahead, expose the institution to even more litigation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (HnUIn)

41 And I mean anywhere, not anywhere in particular. Really. The Narrative would be fascinating.

Posted by: ... at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (bq4Gb)

42 UNC doesn't just get state aid, it is the state school. I believe all this shit was going on at Chapel Hill.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (1bNHn)

43 800 professors? For 1 school.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (JTwsP)

44 Blunt Force Trauma would be a good name for a punk rock band.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (Be/+i)

45 They really appreciate the Palestinian Way of taking hostages and issuing demands.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace

They follow Hamas technique of breaking the law and then declaring that you must ignore their actions because reasons.
The 20 non-students (UNC staff?) should be banned from the campus, deported if not US citizens, and fired if staff for being scofflaws.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (Npk3P)

46 UNC claims they'll sanction any professor who actually attempts to damage students by withholding their grades.

And what would the sanctioning consist of?. Going to be without dinner ?Extended time off in their (room) office?
What a joke! It's unfair to the kids who did their finals and turned in stuff on time. If I were a parent of a decent kid who wasn't doing Ra! Ra Palestinians. Israel is evil! protest theatre, I'd be calling to complain about this everyday.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 08, 2024 03:26 PM (XkYcA)

47 Fire them.

North Carolina must rewrite the law ending tenure for any professor who refuses to do his job for any reason, if that university takes any state aid.

And then: Fire them.

We cannot live in a society in which the left is always threatening the rest of us into giving them special privileges and immunities, as if they were an imperial noble caste.
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They *are* an imperial noble caste.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:26 PM (HnUIn)

48 If I was the parent of one of those kids not getting the grades I would be on the phone to Dewey, Cheatem and Howe double plus quick.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2024 03:26 PM (LkLld)

49 If the grades are stored in the campus LMS, then it's most likely possible that others on campus can be empowered to pull those grades over to the SIS platform, regardless of what the professor wants.

Not that I know how that might happen or anything.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 03:26 PM (7fElN)

50 Interesting how they are such free speech advocates yet won't allow any dissention from their point of view. Kent State and Jackson State convinced a lot of protesters to knock it off.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 08, 2024 03:26 PM (yeEu9)

51 If the grades are stored in the campus LMS, then it's most likely possible that others on campus can be empowered to pull those grades over to the SIS platform, regardless of what the professor wants.

Not that I know how that might happen or anything.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 03:26 PM (7fElN)
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Unless the profs go remove them from the LMS. Most systems let you remove a grade.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:26 PM (HnUIn)

52 If I was a student there I would sue them all ...

Posted by: E.T. at May 08, 2024 03:27 PM (8myOx)

53 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (HnUIn)

The problem is PTSD is a condition that was *under* diagnosed for a very long time.

This is the makeup sex phase and it's not very good.

Posted by: ... at May 08, 2024 03:27 PM (bq4Gb)

54 THEY WERE SUPPORTING THE KHMER ROUGE
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 03:23 PM (s3qiR)

There are so many things people know about Kent State that just isn't true.

Students were advancing on the Natty Guards, hurling rocks at them. They were told to stop or they would be fired on. Warning shots WERE fired.

You know who didn't get killed that day? Everyone who was not attacking an armed contingent of soldiers.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2024 03:27 PM (dGCAG)

55 Unless the profs go remove them from the LMS. Most systems let you remove a grade.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:26 PM (HnUIn)
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Of course, if they do that, there will be an audit trail. The grades could be reconstructed and fixed via direct work against the database.

But the university would have to really want to do it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:27 PM (HnUIn)

56 > We cannot live in a society in which the left is always threatening the rest of us into giving them special privileges and immunities, as if they were an imperial noble caste.
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Well, they sort of are already as we have capitulated over and over and over to their demands.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 08, 2024 03:27 PM (Q4IgG)

57 I love when government agencies like UNC cease "all non-mandatory operations."
You're government. If you're doing anything "non-mandatory," let us know so we can stop it.

Posted by: Wally at May 08, 2024 03:28 PM (hqVaF)

58 I love when government agencies like UNC cease "all non-mandatory operations."
You're government. If you're doing anything "non-mandatory," let us know so we can stop it.
Posted by: Wally at May 08, 2024 03:28 PM (hqVaF)
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I'm pretty sure this attitude makes you a fascist.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:29 PM (HnUIn)

59 Blunt Force Trauma would be a good name for a punk rock band.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (Be/+i)

Apparently someone else thought so too:

https://tinyurl.com/4j3xfcyk

Posted by: spindrift at May 08, 2024 03:29 PM (OguvZ)

60 21 A Kent State incident is likely to happen. It will make people chose sides. Students will think twice about protesting as they might get shot . The paid protesters might also slink away
I say go Kent State
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 08, 2024 03:22 PM (5S+sK)
It will happen, and people will be injured and killed. Some will be students, some will be 'protestors' and some? Why, they will be paid organizers, but not many. Regardless, the military members will be tried and imprisoned, or worse. The yankee government ops will proceed at an accelerated pace, and the whole business will be blamed on President Trump. And us mountain and woods people.

Posted by: Eromero at May 08, 2024 03:29 PM (NxC5+)

61 Unless the profs go remove them from the LMS. Most systems let you remove a grade.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:26 PM (HnUIn)
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That would require them to take a very specific set of actions. It's not all that easy to do, even if you know what you are doing.

Also, the changelogs can be retrieved and grades repopulated from the vendor.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 03:29 PM (7fElN)

62 "We cannot live in a society in which the left is always threatening the rest of us into giving them special privileges and immunities, as if they were an imperial noble caste."

But this is exactly the society in which we live and we've been goose-stepping right into it for last 25 years or so. It's going to get a whole hell of a lot worse from here.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at May 08, 2024 03:29 PM (PWI4f)

63 Blunt Force Trauma would be a good name for a punk rock band.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (Be/+i)

Makes me think of Dimebag Darrell and Damage Plan. Somebody help with the linky.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 03:29 PM (R4t5M)

64 Blunt Force Trauma would be a good name for a punk rock band.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (Be/+i)
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I always thought "Chemical Toilet" would be a good one. It probably *is* one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:29 PM (HnUIn)

65 I love when government agencies like UNC cease "all non-mandatory operations."
You're government. If you're doing anything "non-mandatory," let us know so we can stop it.
Posted by: Wally at May 08, 2024 03:28 PM (hqVaF)
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I'm pretty sure this attitude makes you a fascist.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:29 PM (HnUIn)
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Yeah, the government leaving you alone has "fascism" written all over it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 03:30 PM (Be/+i)

66 33 Where I work, if a faculty member doesn't turn in their grades on time, the Registrar is authorized to withhold their pay until it happens. They quickly get the message.

Usually just the implied threat is enough to get their grades into the Registrar's Office.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 03:24 PM (7fElN)
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You know, with our transitory inflation (inherited from Trump), even a short delay could seriously reduce the value of the pay.

I like it.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 08, 2024 03:30 PM (1bNHn)

67 >27 hey funny someone mentioned Kent State

know what they were protesting for, the leftists there?

pro Khmer Rouge

THEY WERE SUPPORTING THE KHMER ROUGE

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 03:23 PM (s3qiR)

It's always year zero somewhere

Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 08, 2024 03:30 PM (NgqoH)

68 It's always year zero somewhere
Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 08, 2024 03:30 PM (NgqoH)
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Every day, everywhere in the west.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:30 PM (HnUIn)

69 Cultural Marxists Seminaries are going to protect their comrads

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 03:31 PM (fwDg9)

70 I say, don't just go Kent State on them. This time do it right, and use flamethrowers.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 08, 2024 03:31 PM (1bNHn)

71 Tanned, rested and ready

Posted by: Ma Deuce at May 08, 2024 03:31 PM (NWTm7)

72 Now I think "toxic" is extremely overused and yet it's a good catchall.

Posted by: ... at May 08, 2024 03:31 PM (bq4Gb)

73 I say go ahead and withhold all grades to protect the terrorists. The school can issue grades regardless of what the teachers say. It isn't like they can hack the computer and shut it down or anything.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 08, 2024 03:32 PM (QNSds)

74 apropos...I saw a pic of the statue of George Washington (I think in D.C.) with a kufiyyeh draped over its head.

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 03:32 PM (V13WU)

75 Tenure doesn't extend to job protection for breaking rules or failing to perform your job functions, one of which is most definitely getting grades to the registrar's office in a timely manner.

But then, I've never been tenured in N.C., so maybe the rules are different there.

Posted by: Simon Jester at May 08, 2024 03:32 PM (BSu3l)

76 800 professors?
How many DEI courses could they possibly have going at once over there

Posted by: Chuck Hemangioma at May 08, 2024 03:32 PM (+5HQ4)

77 So, UNC has declared itself a terrorist activist organization and not really a state school - the State of North Carolina should pull its charter immediately and make it go private...

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2024 03:32 PM (K+UlC)

78 I say, don't just go Kent State on them. This time do it right, and use flamethrowers.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 08, 2024 03:31 PM (1bNHn)
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Break out the Flammpanzers!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at May 08, 2024 03:32 PM (Be/+i)

79 800 professors? For 1 school.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 08, 2024 03:25 PM (JTwsP)
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- and those are the ones that signed the dumb thing. Seems excessive

Posted by: jhawk90 at May 08, 2024 03:32 PM (ggOdn)

80 how does that make you feel ???

Posted by: runner at May 08, 2024 03:32 PM (V13WU)

81 I always thought "Chemical Toilet" would be a good one. It probably *is* one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:29 PM (HnUIn)

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Well, kind of...https://is.gd/dDn715

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 08, 2024 03:32 PM (DRSnL)

82 "It's always year zero somewhere "

Appletinis on the house!

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 03:33 PM (fV+MH)

83 >70 I say, don't just go Kent State on them. This time do it right, and use flamethrowers.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 08, 2024 03:31 PM (1bNHn)

Some hickory shampoo administered liberally and this shit stops tout suite.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 08, 2024 03:33 PM (NgqoH)

84 I'm late to the blog today. Just saw the bit about RFK Jr.

What is it with Kennedys and losing parts of their brains?
Posted by: Azathoth at May 08, 2024 03:22 PM (wb1YC)

In 2024 there isn't anyone who is more misquoted than RFK Jr.

Doesn't mean anyone has to like him or agree with him, but there are disingenuous things said about what he's said left and right, and it doesn't help their arguments, whoever is making them.

Well, maybe it does, because people are stupid, and if a newspaper says something happened, lots of people believe it happened.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2024 03:33 PM (dGCAG)

85 Is Boulder Toilet Hobo still around?

Or is he the guy that went full Vaxtard?

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 03:34 PM (fV+MH)

86 Breaking911
@Breaking911

The war in Gaza should be over any moment now

tinyurl.com/33c2hwnt

Posted by: redridinghood at May 08, 2024 03:34 PM (NpAcC)

87 So, UNC has declared itself a terrorist activist organization and not really a state school - the State of North Carolina should pull its charter immediately and make it go private...
Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2024 03:32 PM (K+UlC)

But, but, sportsball!

Posted by: Beartooth at May 08, 2024 03:34 PM (XT+5H)

88 It would be good to celebrate the meaningless death of St Pancake.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 08, 2024 03:34 PM (5Iswh)

89 NC legislature is rewriting laws to ensure this peaceful protest shit doesn't get out hand.

No wearing masks. No blocking traffic. Jail time, not no bail time.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 08, 2024 03:34 PM (wBaIH)

90 You think if all of the frat guys on the UNC-CH campus just got really drunk and just went down and started beating the shit out of the smellies, that we could get another $500k gofundme going for them?

Posted by: ballistic at May 08, 2024 03:35 PM (oqH4h)

91 The war in Gaza should be over any moment now

Posted by: redridinghood

That is cruel.
You needed an ackbar warning.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 08, 2024 03:36 PM (Npk3P)

92 "It would be good to celebrate the meaningless death of St Pancake. "

She was a sucker for flattery.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 03:36 PM (fV+MH)

93 @Breaking911

The war in Gaza should be over any moment now

tinyurl.com/33c2hwnt
Posted by: redridinghood at May 08, 2024 03:34 PM (NpAcC)
++++
Not a man among them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:36 PM (HnUIn)

94 Maybe not. William Schroeder was walking between classes. But you can't trust wikipedia as it says Allison Krause was a student. She wasn't.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 08, 2024 03:36 PM (yeEu9)

95 what i recall about kent state.
-school post office and rotc office had been torched
-students probably chanting ' ho ho ho chi min, viet cong are gonna win' - i doubt anyone really had heard of the khmer rouge then, but i could be wrong
-writer for the birch society decades ago wrote there were what looked like bullet holes in a metal sculpture not too far from where the protesters were and the bullet holes seemed to point towards where the guardsman were so maybe they were fired on

not vouching for anything though.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 08, 2024 03:36 PM (B1FKF)

96
To: Professors

Re: Insouciance

You have to spend your days toiling among fat, sweaty, braindead lesbians while I sit in this pleasant, oak-paneled office, because I am the man with the financial and political connections that make your futile existence possible.

Withhold your grades all you like. Everyone knows this is a diploma mill for the privileged hothouse flowers in the American garden. I'll just pass them all with 4.0s.

Thank you, and go fuck yourselves.

Signed,

Posted by: YD, University Administrator at May 08, 2024 03:36 PM (0FoWg)

97 SEUI threatened to withhold grades at the college I was at. Fucking thugs.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2024 03:36 PM (cf/0E)

98 The war in Gaza should be over any moment now

tinyurl.com/33c2hwnt
Posted by: redridinghood at May 08, 2024 03:34 PM (NpAcC)

Why is the one girl (?) not wearing the shirt? They run out of material?

Posted by: spindrift at May 08, 2024 03:37 PM (OguvZ)

99 You think if all of the frat guys on the UNC-CH campus just got really drunk and just went down and started beating the shit out of the smellies, that we could get another $500k gofundme going for them?
Posted by: ballistic at May 08, 2024 03:35 PM (oqH4h)
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Between that GoFundMe and the previous one, the frat boys might be on track to earn the Guinness World Record for biggest kegger of all time.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 03:37 PM (7fElN)

100 The world is seeing that all it takes to get into our institutions of higher learning is the ability to breathe through either the nose or mouth.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 08, 2024 03:37 PM (KbCG3)

101 How can any Jewish student be asked to sit in any professors class after this?

Basically....

Headline: UNC Professors and Staff to Jewish Students: DROP DEAD!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 08, 2024 03:37 PM (XV/Pl)

102 We cannot live in a society in which the left is always threatening the rest of us into giving them special privileges and immunities, as if they were an imperial noble caste
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I can always recognize ace's writing yet I can't ape it. If someone has a distinct voice of any kind I can generally nail it but ace's writing skills are like jell-o.

Can't quite figure out what it is. Forceful yet highly accessible. Also for a guy who writes so often, he's very low key about it - like, his writing doesn't admire itself in the least.

I don't think I'll ever get it. This may be the highest writing honor I can bestow.

Posted by: ... at May 08, 2024 03:37 PM (bq4Gb)

103 Replace the word "international" with "commie" and you will be correct, a surprising-amount of the time.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2024 03:37 PM (cf/0E)

104 800 professors.
There are over 4,000 on faculty, and over 9,000 administrators. LOL what the hell do these idiots do all day?

Posted by: Pavel Chekov at May 08, 2024 03:38 PM (wGerL)

105 biden is coming to Seattle on Friday and leaving sometime on Saturday.

The University of Washington has gone full on anti Israel. Twitter has it that protesters up and down the west coast are being summoned to do their thing for biden.

Could get sporty.

Let's get this party started.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 08, 2024 03:38 PM (4ynbb)

106 So, UNC has declared itself a terrorist activist organization and not really a state school - the State of North Carolina should pull its charter immediately and make it go private...
Posted by: Boswell
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I've posted this before:
www.asheville.com › news › 2024Asheville Watchdog: Budget Shortfall Forces Big Changes at ...
Mar 11, 2024 · The $6 million budget shortfall facing the University of North Carolina Asheville is forcing a reorganization of the school, resulting in faculty layoffs, early retirements, and cuts to academic programs. UNCA’s sharp decline in enrollment — down 22.2 percent from 2018 to 2023, the steepest decline of any of the 16 schools in the UNC system ...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2024 03:38 PM (XeU6L)

107 Fortunately I got my degrees long ago. I wouldn’t be able to deal with this nonsense.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 08, 2024 03:38 PM (Ds3Rc)

108 You know who didn't get killed that day? Everyone who was not attacking an armed contingent of soldiers.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2024 03:27 PM (dGCAG)

Not correct. William Shroeder, a member of the ROTC at Kent State, was walking to class, and had not participated in any of the protests was shot dead. He was well over 100 yards from the closest NG soldier.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 08, 2024 03:38 PM (+YRf1)

109 Unless the profs go remove them from the LMS. Most systems let you remove a grade.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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All that LMS stuff is archived so that mistakes can be rolled back. TA's usually do not have more limited editing of grades and none for course materials usually.

Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 03:39 PM (peJ7P)

110 Teachers are the real heroes, Professors are superheroes.

Posted by: Disgusted at May 08, 2024 03:39 PM (Z8Yh2)

111 There are over 4,000 on faculty, and over 9,000 administrators. LOL what the hell do these idiots do all day?
Posted by: Pavel Chekov at May 08, 2024 03:38 PM (wGerL)
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SHHH!

Are you *trying* to get me fired?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 03:39 PM (7fElN)

112 Not a man among them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08,
*****
These days, when it comes to the left, you just never know what's underneath the clothes.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 08, 2024 03:39 PM (NpAcC)

113 Also, once that state sponsored school charter is revoked by the North Carolina legislation, then pass a law that all civil suits for non-compliance of contract - which by not giving grades or a certificate of graduation is in reality - be presented against the now private endowment of the now private UNC in state court...and let the students thus drain that school funding...

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2024 03:39 PM (K+UlC)

114 SO glad my son hates that school and wouldn't even consider it if it was free...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (nXhwP)

115 800 professors.
There are over 4,000 on faculty, and over 9,000 administrators. LOL what the hell do these idiots do all day?
Posted by: Pavel Chekov
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I am reminded of the 90 Duke professors who signed the letter re the lacrosse team.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (XeU6L)

116 There are over 4,000 on faculty, and over 9,000 administrators. LOL what the hell do these idiots do all day?
Posted by: Pavel Chekov

6000 students?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (Npk3P)

117 I can always recognize ace's writing yet I can't ape it. If someone has a distinct voice of any kind I can generally nail it but ace's writing skills are like jell-o.

Can't quite figure out what it is. Forceful yet highly accessible. Also for a guy who writes so often, he's very low key about it - like, his writing doesn't admire itself in the least.

I don't think I'll ever get it. This may be the highest writing honor I can bestow.
Posted by: ...
======
I would agree. Some of his rants are truly amusing yet poignant at the same time.

Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (peJ7P)

118 @Breaking911

The war in Gaza should be over any moment now

tinyurl.com/33c2hwnt
Posted by: redridinghood at May 08, 2024 03:34 PM (NpAcC)
++++
Not a man among them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:36 PM (HnUIn)

--------------

Trigglypuff and The Seven Morphs.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (t6VO+)

119 Reminder: the Republicans now hold a supermajority in the NC state legislature.

UNC in general and UNC Chapel Hill in particular are very well aware of which way the wind is blowing vis a vis funding.

Posted by: lapin de fureur at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (YWSUL)

120 Everything I resdabout colleges is one big bureaucracy, all kinds of Cultural Marxist departments with Political Commissar in every department

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (fwDg9)

121 A whiff of tear gas wafting down Franklin Street would be bad for business, but would make a fun read in the News and Obscurer.

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (rj6Yv)

122 43 800 professors? For 1 school.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May

It’s a big school. About 25, 26k students. So 30 to 1 ratio.

Posted by: Piper at May 08, 2024 03:41 PM (pZEOD)

123 These days, when it comes to the left, you just never know what's underneath the clothes.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 08, 2024 03:39 PM (NpAcC)
++++
Heh. Fair enough.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:41 PM (HnUIn)

124 Between Hulu, Disney+, and ESPN+, the Disney Grooming Syndicate actually had a fairly good quarter financially, losing just $18 million compared to the $216 million loss during the previous quarter and the $659 million loss during this same quarter last year.

Nevertheless, the Disney Grooming Syndicate stock still plummeted nearly ten percent off of that earnings report because “Overall, Disney reported a net loss of $20 million, or 1 cent per share, for the quarter, compared to a $1.3 billion, or 70 cents per share, gain a year earlier,” Quartz’s William Gavin writes.

Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 03:41 PM (RHGPo)

125 all faculty that are withholding grades. Fix the budget shortfall by withholding their salary permanently.

Posted by: feds are here to help at May 08, 2024 03:41 PM (FAQlI)

126 “ Poignant” Ace… that is hard to compute…

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 03:41 PM (PCK5/)

127 All this for a mere $67,000 / year (activity & DEI fees extra).

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at May 08, 2024 03:41 PM (JSF6W)

128 When I was in university young men would join protests in hope of getting laid. I can't imagine that would work as motivation with this foul lot

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 08, 2024 03:41 PM (5Iswh)

129 I love when government agencies like UNC cease "all non-mandatory operations."
You're government. If you're doing anything "non-mandatory," let us know so we can stop it.
Posted by: Wally

I'm pretty sure this attitude makes you a fascist.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Ok, and?

Posted by: rickb223 Fascist at May 08, 2024 03:41 PM (w0gh0)

130 Yeah, the Guard at Kent State should have gone in with the bayonet

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2024 03:41 PM (FQmDC)

131 119 Reminder: the Republicans now hold a supermajority in the NC state legislature.

UNC in general and UNC Chapel Hill in particular are very well aware of which way the wind is blowing vis a vis funding.
Posted by: lapin de fureur at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (YWSUL)

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A supermajority, but they just can't, gosh darn it, win the governorship.

It's a quality candidate problem, to be sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 03:41 PM (GBKbO)

132 No one can replicate the Kaboom.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 03:42 PM (fV+MH)

133 speaking of funny college stuff, Dickinson (small LAC near here) just told Michael Smerconish he can't be their grad speaker!

he's too rightwing!

lol!!!

some kids found and actually read a book he pooped out in 2004 and decided it was anti-islam

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 08, 2024 03:42 PM (s3qiR)

134 Going to be interesting when this crap starts up in Florida or Texas.

Posted by: RM at May 08, 2024 03:42 PM (urbih)

135 A Kent State incident is likely to happen. It will make people chose sides. Students will think twice about protesting as they might get shot . The paid protesters might also slink away
I say go Kent State
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 08, 2024 03:22 PM (5S+sK)

Based on a casual conversation I had at work, the Normies DO NOT like the "Kill All the Jooooz" talk. These are people with whom I don't talk politics. They are extremely disturbed by the pro-Hamas goons.

I have a feeling that the Normies wouldn't be particularly concerned if these sans culottes get a whiff of grape.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 08, 2024 03:42 PM (pJWtt)

136 Ooh “Sofi”, what a serious apparatchik name

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (Lg0Yg)

137 UNCA’s sharp decline in enrollment — down 22.2 percent from 2018 to 2023, the steepest decline of any of the 16 schools in the UNC system ...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2024 03:38 PM (XeU6L)

Pull their charter - there is no reason for NC state taxpayers to pay for incompetence - a private school would need to actually be, oh, I don't know - solvent?

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (K+UlC)

138 There are over 4,000 on faculty, and over 9,000 administrators. LOL what the hell do these idiots do all day?
Posted by: Pavel Chekov

6000 students?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (Npk3P)

---------------

Fact pointed out by cruelty aficionado VDH a year or two ago IIRC:

Stanford University now has more faculty and administration than students. Wouldn't surprise if at least half of them are DIE Department hires ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (t6VO+)

139 Fire them.

Yes. With flammenwerfers.

Posted by: Those tents are highly flammable. Just sayin. at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (Wc83a)

140 800 professors? For 1 school.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May

It’s a big school. About 25, 26k students. So 30 to 1 ratio.
Posted by: Piper

How many are actually teaching classes and how many are "research"?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (w0gh0)

141 Reminder: the Republicans now hold a supermajority in the NC state legislature.

UNC in general and UNC Chapel Hill in particular are very well aware of which way the wind is blowing vis a vis funding.
Posted by: lapin de fureur at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (YWSUL)

A lot of their kids go to school there. UNC-Chapel Hill is the nerve center for North Carolina liberaldom. Jesse Helms made a career, two of them as a matter of fact, using Chapel Hill as the target of his ire.

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (rj6Yv)

142 135 Based on a casual conversation I had at work, the Normies DO NOT like the "Kill All the Jooooz" talk. These are people with whom I don't talk politics. They are extremely disturbed by the pro-Hamas goons.

I have a feeling that the Normies wouldn't be particularly concerned if these sans culottes get a whiff of grape.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 08, 2024 03:42 PM (pJWtt)

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Nah. They'd be aghast and blame Trump, even if Biden were lighting fuses on cannons while Trump was in prison.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

143 Mar 11, 2024 · The $6 million budget shortfall facing the University of North Carolina Asheville is forcing a reorganization of the school, resulting in faculty layoffs, early retirements, and cuts to academic programs. UNCA’s sharp decline in enrollment — down 22.2 percent from 2018 to 2023, the steepest decline of any of the 16 schools in the UNC system ...

Posted by: Mike Hammer
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This has been true in the Midwest and to some extent in the NE as well. Demographics of declining pools of yutes to enroll, expenses outweighing benefits, plus pissing off half of the population (males) by maltreatment is accelerating the death of many colleges and programs within those colleges. That in turn will kill off many graduate programs including some of the Ivies that are churning out the thought leaders and ill educated bureaucrats for the state.

Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (peJ7P)

144 If you haven't figured it out yet, we're at the "If you make the communists mad then you lose YOUR property and/or rights" stage

There's probably some historic parallel somewhere.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 08, 2024 03:44 PM (hECfr)

145 Let's get this party started.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 08, 2024 03:38 PM (4ynbb)

I’m just hoping you’re at a safe distance when Seattle decides to declare nuclear war on itself.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 08, 2024 03:44 PM (Ds3Rc)

146 Not for nothing but most normal people don't dig this gender shit, yet here we are.

Posted by: ... at May 08, 2024 03:44 PM (bq4Gb)

147 "And the worms ate into his brain" is a line from a Pink Floyd song.

Life imitating art, I guess.

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2024 03:44 PM (q177U)

148 Is Boulder Toilet Hobo still around?
Or is he the guy that went full Vaxtard?
Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 03:34 PM (fV+MH)

I always liked BTH but last time I saw a post by him he went off on why The Mask saves lives and it was the will of Landru and non-maskers were killing off the planet, blah, blah, blah. Really broke his mind.

Poor Bastard.

Posted by: Pebble Urinal Vagrant at May 08, 2024 03:44 PM (4a+k3)

149 question for the legally inclined: Would the deliberate withholding of grades be "cause"?

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at May 08, 2024 03:44 PM (gPsAl)

150 Maybe define professor… full, associate, adjunct… lots of flavors of that ilk… and it is a hierarchy.

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 03:45 PM (PCK5/)

151 >132 No one can replicate the Kaboom.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 03:42 PM (fV+MH)

Flaming clown boners is right up there IMO

Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 08, 2024 03:45 PM (NgqoH)

152 Nah. They'd be aghast and blame Trump, even if Biden were lighting fuses on cannons while Trump was in prison.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Preference cascades in a society are an interesting phenomena that are the equivalent of earthquakes or major hurricanes. Rare but often quite deadly events spurred by little understood processes.

Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 03:45 PM (peJ7P)

153 Every student should sue
Posted by: steevy

Absent a specific state law, they'd have to make some kind of common law argument, which any Hawaiian judge would bounce instantly.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2024 03:45 PM (IG4Id)

154 The big factor these days is the student loan forgiveness scam. It already is a source of resentment

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 08, 2024 03:46 PM (yeEu9)

155 800 professors? For 1 school.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May

It’s a big school. About 25, 26k students. So 30 to 1 ratio.
Posted by: Piper

How many are actually teaching classes and how many are "research"?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (w0gh0)

And their endowments are in the billions. As a leftish NYU professor recently quipped about Harvard: they aren't a university, they're a hedge fund that has classes.

Posted by: The only wealth tax I'd support - excise college endowments at May 08, 2024 03:46 PM (Wc83a)

156 Kent State didn't stop 1 protest, if anything think it got worse.
No one thinks they will be the one who ends up dead

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 03:46 PM (fwDg9)

157
A lot of their kids go to school there. UNC-Chapel Hill is the nerve center for North Carolina liberaldom. Jesse Helms made a career, two of them as a matter of fact, using Chapel Hill as the target of his ire.
Posted by: mrp
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Well, Duke/Durham also. The 'Research Triangle'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2024 03:46 PM (XeU6L)

158 I was unfortunately a long time defender but last time I saw BTH he came back to laugh at us about Trump losing.

Posted by: ... at May 08, 2024 03:47 PM (bq4Gb)

159 >144 If you haven't figured it out yet, we're at the "If you make the communists mad then you lose YOUR property and/or rights" stage

There's probably some historic parallel somewhere.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 08, 2024 03:44 PM (hECfr)

Problem is, the Kulaks and bourgeoisie weren't armed. We are.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 08, 2024 03:47 PM (NgqoH)

160 152 Preference cascades in a society are an interesting phenomena that are the equivalent of earthquakes or major hurricanes. Rare but often quite deadly events spurred by little understood processes.
Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 03:45 PM (peJ7P)

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I've been expecting preference cascades to come along since 2010. That was the last time it seemed to really manifest at all in elections. Trump was something more of a squeaker in 2016.

Essentially, I think Obama and Eric Holder worked overtime with local Democrat election machinery to rig elections from 2011 onward.

I think the American people woke up in 2009. I think the establishment has just been progressively working to break the feedback loop that is elections. I think the US is a boiling pot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

161 "Free speech is often challenging; it can make people uncomfortable, and it can grow heated. But until that speech crosses the line into violence or obstruction, it must be protected, even at the cost of discomfort or patches of grass yellowed by tents."

--
So, if one obstructs traffic on a public highway it's no longer free speech nor protected.
Good to know.

Posted by: Ciampino - Volare Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu .... at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM (qfLjt)

162 "Poor Bastard."

So yeah he was that guy. We had a guy "Amish" or some shit that went complete fuckwad about DJT.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM (fV+MH)

163
How many are actually teaching classes and how many are "research"?
Posted by: rickb223
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Elon Musk could clear this up. ‘What would you say you do here?’

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM (XeU6L)

164 Colorado is pretty much an insane asylum now…

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM (PCK5/)

165 What's that rule about the least tolerant part of any group eventually taking control if left unchecked? Seems like we're well on the way to that if we haven't already reached the tipping point.

Posted by: Octochicken at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM (oCS0o)

166 This has been true in the Midwest and to some extent in the NE as well. Demographics of declining pools of yutes to enroll, expenses outweighing benefits, plus pissing off half of the population (males) by maltreatment is accelerating the death of many colleges and programs within those colleges. That in turn will kill off many graduate programs including some of the Ivies that are churning out the thought leaders and ill educated bureaucrats for the state.
Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (peJ7P)

“Thought leaders” needs to be binned five minutes ago. For if they are needed, NO ONE is thinking. Anyways…I think we are also returning to form. See, many people once upon a time took master’s classes and got master’s degrees to duck the draft (and we still see the aftereffects in massive gluts of labor in various departments). It’s why it doesn’t pay to get a masters in history. Up until about 20 years ago you could get a masters and teach at a CC and live comfortably. Try that now. But for all the reasons you describe and then some, things are changing. And I suspect returning at long last where they should have been in terms of college education.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM (Ds3Rc)

167
How many are actually teaching classes and how many are "research"?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 08, 2024

I don’t know. The only reason I have the tidbit of useless info I do is because J’s dad went to UNC. The student number is Chapel Hill only, by the way not all of the UNC campuses.

Posted by: Piper at May 08, 2024 03:49 PM (pZEOD)

168 This has been true in the Midwest and to some extent in the NE as well. Demographics of declining pools of yutes to enroll, expenses outweighing benefits, plus pissing off half of the population (males) by maltreatment is accelerating the death of many colleges and programs within those colleges. That in turn will kill off many graduate programs including some of the Ivies that are churning out the thought leaders and ill educated bureaucrats for the state.
Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (peJ7P)

That's my hope for when my boys apply...although likely they'll go to the same state school their sisters are b/c it's been ideal. Or as ideal as any college experience can be these days - actually getting what you paid for...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 08, 2024 03:49 PM (exHjb)

169 Not correct. William Shroeder, a member of the ROTC at Kent State, was walking to class, and had not participated in any of the protests was shot dead. He was well over 100 yards from the closest NG soldier.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 08, 2024 03:38 PM (+YRf1)

That's what all the newspapers say.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2024 03:49 PM (dGCAG)

170 Nah. They'd be aghast and blame Trump, even if Biden were lighting fuses on cannons while Trump was in prison.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

I disagree.

The pro-Hamas goons are staking out a position that is very unpopular in the U.S.: "Kill All the Joooz" is disturbing a lot of people that don't pay attention to politics.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 08, 2024 03:49 PM (pJWtt)

171 NAACP beclowns itself with calls on Biden to pardon Marilyn Mosby, who they say was Trump victim

Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 03:50 PM (RHGPo)

172 153 Every student should sue
Posted by: steevy

Absent a specific state law, they'd have to make some kind of common law argument, which any Hawaiian judge would bounce instantly.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2024 03:45 PM (IG4Id)

Most states have some version of a deceptive and unfair trade practice act/consumer protection act that could apply. Frankly our university system is basically one gigantic fraud scheme anyway.

Posted by: Thieves and liars at May 08, 2024 03:50 PM (Wc83a)

173 UNC in general and UNC Chapel Hill in particular are very well aware of which way the wind is blowing vis a vis funding.
Posted by: lapin de fureur at May 08, 2024 03:40 PM (YWSUL)

Just suggesting a law in the NC state legislature to pull their charter would get an immediate reversal and expulsion of any administrator or professor that supported this evil, pro-terrorist antisemitic action - UNC can't survive without that charter and taxpayers' money and they damn well know it - do it...do it now!

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2024 03:50 PM (K+UlC)

174 167
How many are actually teaching classes and how many are "research"?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 08, 2024

I don’t know. The only reason I have the tidbit of useless info I do is because J’s dad went to UNC. The student number is Chapel Hill only, by the way not all of the UNC campuses.
Posted by: Piper at May 08, 2024 03:49 PM (pZEOD)

The “ Admins” are, if possible, a worse set of useless layabouts…

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 03:50 PM (PCK5/)

175 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 08, 2024 03:42 PM (pJWtt)

Sure. The ugly, violent, hysterical antisemitism is a turnoff for normies in this country. It was never a part of our culture before now.

But I think it's bigger than that. Virtually nobody outside the ivy-covered fagtories liked the protesters in the 60s, but it was tolerated because Americans were obsessed with youth, and willing to forgive a lot of nonsense from it.

Now? I think people had just about enough of da chilrunz.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 08, 2024 03:50 PM (0FoWg)

176 Since these profs were so helpful to society when they identified themselves, see to it that they're fired, NC legislature.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 08, 2024 03:50 PM (Xdtaa)

177 Violent Crime is down under my Presidency. The people of Antarctica should be proud that my policies have driven down crime to ZERO there.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 08, 2024 03:51 PM (15lwl)

178 Tenure should be used to protect the teachers from petty vindictive actions against them.

It should not be carte blanche amnesty if their actions actually harm the students or the institution.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2024 03:51 PM (0h/0q)

179 170 I disagree.

The pro-Hamas goons are staking out a position that is very unpopular in the U.S.: "Kill All the Joooz" is disturbing a lot of people that don't pay attention to politics.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 08, 2024 03:49 PM (pJWtt)

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"This is actually representative of Trump's anti-Semitism, a belief I have cemented for 7 years. Here are some cherry-picked quotes from Biden as well as footage of John Fetterman waving the Israeli flag. It's obvious that the Democrats are the true friends of Israel and all of this pro-Hamas stuff is the work of outside agitators trying to make universities look bad."
-Centrist

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

180 161
To add:
Then blocking Jewish students from places is also illegal.
Obstructing police or police vehicles is also illegal.
Blocking an ambulance and the patient dies constitutes murder.

Posted by: Ciampino - Volare Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu ... at May 08, 2024 03:51 PM (qfLjt)

181 Just suggesting a law in the NC state legislature to pull their charter would get an immediate reversal and expulsion of any administrator or professor that supported this evil, pro-terrorist antisemitic action - UNC can't survive without that charter and taxpayers' money and they damn well know it - do it...do it now!
Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2024 03:50 PM (K+UlC)
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Even just the whisper of actions can lead to the desired consequences...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 03:51 PM (7fElN)

182 It subjected the very students it is charged with protecting to violence and trauma...
_________________

I love misplaced modifiers. University faculty wrote this? They should go back to high school and learn English composition.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2024 03:52 PM (YqDXo)

183 Problem is, the Kulaks and bourgeoisie weren't armed. We are.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 08, 2024 03:47 PM (NgqoH)

True. They have control of their "civilian" army and the regular army as well. They're pushing their chips in.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 03:52 PM (R4t5M)

184 "Free speech is often challenging; it can make people uncomfortable, and it can grow heated. But until that speech crosses the line into violence or obstruction, it must be protected, even at the cost of discomfort or patches of grass yellowed by tents."

--
So, if one obstructs traffic on a public highway it's no longer free speech nor protected.
Good to know.
Posted by: Ciampino

What's rich? And totally beggars belief?

Protesting someone occupying foreign lands by OCCUPYING LAND YOU DON'T OWN.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 08, 2024 03:52 PM (w0gh0)

185 Sounds like UNC has enough teachers to support teaching in Gaza. Send them all there to support the UN.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2024 03:52 PM (0h/0q)

186 Michael Smerconish he can't be their grad speaker!

he's too rightwing!
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Crazy. I used to listen to Smerconish, and read his books "Murdered by Mumia" and "Flying Blind" (airport security after 9-11).

Circa Obama, he started to drift leftward and admitted that he was "moving left". I finally had to stop listening to him.
I always wondered if he was a rare lefty convert or simply a grifter who saw an opportunity as some sort of turncoat maverick.

Posted by: RM at May 08, 2024 03:53 PM (urbih)

187 North Carolina must rewrite the law ending tenure for any professor who refuses to do his job for any reason, if that university takes any state aid.

And then: Fire them.
______________

Unintended benefit: it would essentially eliminate humanities and social "science" departments, a development much to be desired.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2024 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

188 Sounds like UNC has enough teachers to support teaching in Gaza. Send them all there to support the UN.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2024 03:52 PM (0h/0q)

I'll pack their parachutes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 03:54 PM (R4t5M)

189 I suspect Hamas snizz is diseased.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 08, 2024 03:54 PM (5Iswh)

190 I’m sure it’s been said already, but just in case Bob at the NSA missed it:

Fire them … fire them into the sun

Posted by: browndog is awaiting the day of rectification at May 08, 2024 03:54 PM (pY+ea)

191 That's what all the newspapers say.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2024 03:49 PM (dGCAG)

BS. He was in Army ROTC scholarship, walking to class 130 yards from the NG soldiers. But hey you do you.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 08, 2024 03:54 PM (+YRf1)

192 Tenure should be used to protect the teachers from petty vindictive actions against them.

It should not be carte blanche amnesty if their actions actually harm the students or the institution.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2024 03:51 PM (0h/0q)
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Universities will put up with a lot of BS from their faculty under the blanket of "academic freedom."

They are far less tolerant of activities that threaten the perceived status or reputation of the institution.

There are a thousand ways they can make the lives of those faculty members miserable once this dies down a bit.

Up for tenure and promotion? Denied. Want to attend that awesome conference in Hawaii this year? Well, that's just not in the budget.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 03:54 PM (7fElN)

193 redridinghood, what's with the watermelons and the loons for pali?
I'm seeing lots of watermelons lately and I'm having trouble with the symbology--or are they admitting green on the outside red on the inside?

Posted by: barbarausa at May 08, 2024 03:54 PM (enw9G)

194 In some ways the near total implosion of the academic institutions by the left, who had basically taken over them is unusually satisfying.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 08, 2024 03:55 PM (Q4IgG)

195 * Every state that had a chance voted against rainbow marriage. Every one.

* Up until it became fashionable *nobody* thought man could become a woman.

* Whatever you think is too unacceptable to become mainstream clearly is not. Know what you are up against.

Posted by: ... at May 08, 2024 03:55 PM (bq4Gb)

196 194 In some ways the near total implosion of the academic institutions by the left, who had basically taken over them is unusually satisfying.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 08, 2024 03:55 PM (Q4IgG)

I'm enjoying it.. Let it burn

Posted by: It's me donna at May 08, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo)

197 Geez, what the hell, North Carolina. That place is turning into NY with hotter weather.

Posted by: Joe Mamma at May 08, 2024 03:56 PM (gNDS4)

198 "Free speech is often challenging; it can make people uncomfortable, and it can grow heated. But until that speech crosses the line into violence or obstruction, it must be protected, even at the cost of discomfort or patches of grass yellowed by tents."

--
So, if one obstructs traffic on a public highway it's no longer free speech nor protected.
Good to know.

Posted by: Ciampino - Volare Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu .... at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM

If someone blocks a bridge, road or highway they are denying you your constitutional right to freedom of travel. They can be sued. If you can find out who the idiots blocking you are you can sue them in civil court. You might win, who knows but I doubt you will see any $$$$ as most of these terrorists don't have anything.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 08, 2024 03:56 PM (QNSds)

199 196 194 In some ways the near total implosion of the academic institutions by the left, who had basically taken over them is unusually satisfying.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 08, 2024 03:55 PM (Q4IgG)

I'm enjoying it.. Let it burn
Posted by: It's me donna at May 08, 2024 03:55 PM (Akjoo)

They have abdicated their purpose so let them die…

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 03:56 PM (PCK5/)

200 "I'm enjoying it.. Let it burn"

Like Disney.

Posted by: eleven at May 08, 2024 03:56 PM (fV+MH)

201 I swear there was a recording from Kent State that had gunshots prior to the national guard firing - Anyone remember that?

Posted by: Ryan Frank at May 08, 2024 03:57 PM (fgmuN)

202 160 152 Preference cascades in a society are an interesting phenomena that are the equivalent of earthquakes or major hurricanes. Rare but often quite deadly events spurred by little understood processes.
Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 03:45 PM (peJ7P)

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I've been expecting preference cascades to come along since 2010. That was the last time it seemed to really manifest at all in elections. Trump was something more of a squeaker in 2016.

Essentially, I think Obama and Eric Holder worked overtime with local Democrat election machinery to rig elections from 2011 onward.

I think the American people woke up in 2009. I think the establishment has just been progressively working to break the feedback loop that is elections. I think the US is a boiling pot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

In late 2009 I told my closest friends a Civil War is coming. I said it's at least 10 years away, but inevitable.

Posted by: Gref at May 08, 2024 03:57 PM (5fDan)

203 120 Everything I resdabout colleges is one big bureaucracy, all kinds of Cultural Marxist departments with Political Commissar in every department
Posted by: Skip
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You have no idea how bad it has become even in red states. Hiring for faculty went off the rails years ago and student behavior has steadily worsened along with mounds of administratium.

Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 03:57 PM (peJ7P)

204 Based on a casual conversation I had at work, the Normies DO NOT like the "Kill All the Jooooz" talk. These are people with whom I don't talk politics. They are extremely disturbed by the pro-Hamas goons.

I have a feeling that the Normies wouldn't be particularly concerned if these sans culottes get a whiff of grape.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 08, 2024 03:42 PM (pJWtt)

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It would be ironic schadenfreude were the invasion of Israel by Ham-Ass contribute significantly to Trump -- the best Presidential friend Israel's ever had beyond Truman and annihilator of Muzzie Terrorists -- overcoming the Chasm of Fraud this year.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 08, 2024 03:57 PM (t6VO+)

205
North Carolina must rewrite the law ending tenure for any professor who refuses to do his job for any reason, if that university takes any state aid.

And then: Fire them.

Please tell me that flamethrowers are involved. Lie to me if you have to.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 08, 2024 03:57 PM (n+4am)

206 This busty bikini blonde on a balcony near the beach *so* does not regret "missing out on the college experience:"
http://tiny.cc/97r0yz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:58 PM (HnUIn)

207 Most states have some version of a deceptive and unfair trade practice act/consumer protection act that could apply. Frankly our university system is basically one gigantic fraud scheme anyway.
Posted by: Thieves and liars

I don't see how a grade is part of 'trade,' absent a specific law. Further, they'd have to prove damages of some kind, which in the immediate would be nigh impossible.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2024 03:58 PM (IG4Id)

208 193 redridinghood, what's with the watermelons and the loons for pali?
I'm seeing lots of watermelons lately and I'm having trouble with the symbology--or are they admitting green on the outside red on the inside?
Posted by: barbarausa at May

Same colors as the Palestinian flag - red, black, green and white.

Posted by: Piper at May 08, 2024 03:58 PM (p4NUW)

209 Geez, what the hell, North Carolina. That place is turning into NY with hotter weather.
Posted by: Joe Mamma at May 08, 2024 03:56 PM (gNDS4)

Been through Charlotte? Shit tons of people from the 5 boroughs and Lon Guyland.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 03:59 PM (R4t5M)

210 >Unintended benefit: it would essentially eliminate humanities and social "science" departments, a development much to be desired.

Don't forget about us.

Posted by: schools of education and communication at May 08, 2024 03:59 PM (rJ48h)

211 In some ways the near total implosion of the academic institutions by the left, who had basically taken over them is unusually satisfying.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 08, 2024 03:55 PM (Q4IgG)

Yup. The last means of production they didn't destroy was the one their programmed proletariat seized from the owners. Irony. LOL.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 08, 2024 03:59 PM (0FoWg)

212 Geez, what the hell, North Carolina. That place is turning into NY with hotter weather.
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Been through Charlotte? Shit tons of people from the 5 boroughs and Lon Guyland.

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Yep. Locusts.

Gotta go pretty far north to get back in the South these days.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 08, 2024 03:59 PM (uo86X)

213 Unintended benefit: it would essentially eliminate humanities and social "science" departments, a development much to be desired.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2024 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

Humanities would be perfectly fine, IF taken back to seven pillars of classical education type learning, instead of gay unicorn interpretive dance theory bullshit.

Posted by: Trivium and quadrivium needs restored at May 08, 2024 04:00 PM (Wc83a)

214 * does not regret "missing out on the college experience:"

Went right to Only Fans for moolah?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 08, 2024 04:00 PM (XkYcA)

215 Geez, what the hell, North Carolina. That place is turning into NY with hotter weather.
Posted by: Joe Mamma
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Largely because of the influx of locusts. Last election, less than half of the voters were NC natives.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2024 04:00 PM (XeU6L)

216 Short of an out-of-control riot on campus, my guess is that in this election year 2024, state legislators, state senators, and the candidates for governor for the Old North State are going to milk the UNC turmoil for every drop of electioneering advantage they can get. The Dems, of course, are going to get whipped out of their socks on this issue, as usual.

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2024 04:00 PM (rj6Yv)

217 This busty bikini blonde on a balcony near the beach *so* does not regret "missing out on the college experience:"
http://tiny.cc/97r0yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:58 PM (HnUIn)

I thought the poor girl's right leg was horribly misshapen. Then I looked more closely.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 08, 2024 04:00 PM (5Iswh)

218 "Free speech is often challenging; it can make people uncomfortable, and it can grow heated. But until that speech crosses the line into violence or obstruction, it must be protected, even at the cost of discomfort or patches of grass yellowed by tents."

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Wasn't it Charlotte where the guy got in trouble for free speech peeling out on the gay flag that was painted on the street?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 08, 2024 04:00 PM (uo86X)

219 redridinghood, what's with the watermelons and the loons for pali?
I'm seeing lots of watermelons lately and I'm having trouble with the symbology--or are they admitting green on the outside red on the inside?
Posted by: barbarausa at May 08, 2024 03:54 PM

Green, red, and black. Pali national colors. Common symbol over there.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 08, 2024 04:01 PM (FAGAJ)

220 ... I think the American people woke up in 2009. I think the establishment has just been progressively working to break the feedback loop that is elections. I think the US is a boiling pot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Tyrannies always have broken feedback loops. They have to. They commit vast resources to breaking feedback loops. That's the major point of censorship.

And it can work, to a point. The problem is that the elimination of feedback loops - speech, elections, work choices, etc. - is simultaneously *also* an elimination of intelligence information. You can't stop what you can't see, and you can't see what you've suppressed.

So everything is stable and the Party is large and in charge. Then, very very suddenly and usually in a manner that is totally surprising, it isn't. The last straw needn't be heavy, it just needs to be the last one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:01 PM (HnUIn)

221 What's rich? And totally beggars belief?

Protesting someone occupying foreign lands by OCCUPYING LAND YOU DON'T OWN.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 08

You with all your logic. Hater.

Posted by: Piper at May 08, 2024 04:01 PM (p4NUW)

222 to physical struggles around a flagpole in the center of Polk Place when an American flag was taken down and a Palestinian flag was hung in its place.

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It's weird, but it seems like there's a word for that.

And it's something that didn't happen January 6th.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Little girls dreamt of being moms, women told them not to follow their dreams at May 08, 2024 04:01 PM (uo86X)

223 220 So everything is stable and the Party is large and in charge. Then, very very suddenly and usually in a manner that is totally surprising, it isn't. The last straw needn't be heavy, it just needs to be the last one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:01 PM (HnUIn)

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Country priests need to watch their backs!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:01 PM (GBKbO)

224
171
Has Ace covered that POS Mosby?

https://is.gd/9emHWs

Posted by: Ciampino - Volare Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu .. at May 08, 2024 04:01 PM (qfLjt)

225 WEDNESDAY, APRIL 10, 2024, Governor Cooper to Attend White House State Dinner Honoring Prime Minister of Japan

“Kristin and I appreciate President Biden’s invitation to attend the White House State Dinner honoring our nation’s relationship with Japan and we look forward to hosting Prime Minister and Mrs. Kishida in North Carolina as well,” said Governor Cooper. “Japan is a great ally and economic partner and I’m grateful for President Biden’s efforts to bring our countries even closer together, especially during a time of conflicts and tension around the world.”
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Biden-Harris Administration Invests $44 Million in North Carolina Clean Energy and Domestic Fertilizer Projects,
Jan 22, 2024
Projects Funded by President Biden Will Lower Costs and Create Revenue for Rural Business Owners and Farms

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 08, 2024 04:02 PM (NFX2v)

226 Problem is, the Kulaks and bourgeoisie weren't armed. We are.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 08, 2024 03:47 PM (NgqoH)

True. They have control of their "civilian" army and the regular army as well. They're pushing their chips in.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 03:52 PM (R4t5M)

The problem for the Junta is that the U.S. military is not configured to be deployed as an occupying force within the U.S. Most bases have a chain-link fence, some barbed wire and rock-filled ditches as their "fortifications" within the U.S. Civilians maintain equipment and supply the food services. Military members and their families live off-base.

It would be asymmetric warfare of the worst nightmare.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 08, 2024 04:02 PM (pJWtt)

227 Country priests need to watch their backs!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:01 PM (GBKbO)
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Heh. That's my favorite example, but there are others. The last straw in the USSR was the attempt at reform. The Party there was in a similar position to how I see the Party here. It could not survive attempted reform of any kind. Gorbachev inadvertently destroyed the system by trying to save it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:03 PM (HnUIn)

228 I wish my black kids hadn't heard of computers. They haven't done much good for kids, so far as I can tell.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 08, 2024 04:03 PM (0FoWg)

229 The best part of the Age of Trump is that people self-identify

Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 04:04 PM (RHGPo)

230 I think the American people woke up in 2009. I think the establishment has just been progressively working to break the feedback loop that is elections. I think the US is a boiling pot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

In late 2009 I told my closest friends a Civil War is coming. I said it's at least 10 years away, but inevitable.
Posted by: Gref
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I think dark money plus Uniparty rigging at the national and state executive level has been used to plug the leaks in the dam.

But really dirt poor do not revolt like in North Korea, it is actually the people fearing the impending loss of what they have that end up making regimes change. The very authoritarian regimes like the Kims in Nork ultimately die via coups from the inside or failed attempts to 'thaw' the system that in the end destroy it.

Putative democracies end regimes that impoverish the masses before the elites turn them into serfs. Sometimes it opens to doors for something worse like the masses going for Chavez to punish the looting uniparty duopoly in Venezuela and you get a Maduro instead. Or, you can get a DeGaulle, a Cromwell, or a Pinochet.

Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 04:04 PM (peJ7P)

231 These sound like for table offenses. Shit -can them.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at May 08, 2024 04:04 PM (d/NDy)

232
I don't see how a grade is part of 'trade,' absent a specific law. Further, they'd have to prove damages of some kind, which in the immediate would be nigh impossible.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 08, 2024 03:58 PM (IG4Id)

"Trade" in this context is simply a somewhat archaic reference to engaging in commerce. So deceptive or unfair practices relating to or used in commerce.

Posted by: perhaps that clarifies at May 08, 2024 04:04 PM (Wc83a)

233 http://tiny.cc/97r0yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:58 PM (HnUIn)

Nice.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:05 PM (9yWhg)

234 Paul Ryan Declares: I Won’t Vote Trump

SMOD Declares: It's a "Secret Ballot" so honor it as such

Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 04:05 PM (RHGPo)

235 RM was a regular Smercomish listener until he said he had to vote for Chocolat Jesus, that was the last day.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 04:06 PM (fwDg9)

236 Biden-Harris Administration Invests $44 Million in North Carolina Clean Energy and Domestic Fertilizer Projects,
Jan 22, 2024
Projects Funded by President Biden Will Lower Costs and Create Revenue for Rural Business Owners and Farms
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at May 08, 2024 04:02 PM (NFX2v)

After the meltdown of the EV investment projects in NC, "domestic fertilizer" sounds like something Dems can get behind.

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2024 04:06 PM (rj6Yv)

237 217 This busty bikini blonde on a balcony near the beach *so* does not regret "missing out on the college experience:"
http://tiny.cc/97r0yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:58 PM (HnUIn)

I thought the poor girl's right leg was horribly misshapen. Then I looked more closely.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 08, 2024 04:00 PM (5Iswh)
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Where? I didn't see any legs!

Posted by: Ciampino - Volare Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu . at May 08, 2024 04:06 PM (qfLjt)

238 I wish my black kids hadn't heard of computers. They haven't done much good for kids, so far as I can tell.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 08, 2024 04:03 PM (0FoWg)
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My career is computers. Everything I have achieved has been on the backs of computers, especially networked ones. Computers and the internet have been game-changing force multipliers for commerce, telecommunications and logistics. Their influence cannot be understated, and probably neither can their benefit.

That preamble is so that it's clear that I do comprehend the losses and missed opportunities that their absence would represent when I saw that I think at this point it is evident that the internet has done more harm than good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:06 PM (HnUIn)

239 228 I wish my black kids hadn't heard of computers. They haven't done much good for kids, so far as I can tell.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May

What in the hades was that statement? But because she is a dem we just pretend it didn’t happen? Honestly, she is a troll. The real kind.

Posted by: Piper at May 08, 2024 04:07 PM (p4NUW)

240 206 This busty bikini blonde on a balcony near the beach *so* does not regret "missing out on the college experience:"
http://tiny.cc/97r0yz

She's at the Atlantis in the Bahamas.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 08, 2024 04:07 PM (IGKzA)

241 Protesting someone occupying foreign lands by OCCUPYING LAND YOU DON'T OWN.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 08

You with all your logic. Hater.
Posted by: Piper

They'll try to vlaim "that it's public land".

That's fine. I'm part of the public and I don't want you on it.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 08, 2024 04:07 PM (w0gh0)

242 226 Problem is, the Kulaks and bourgeoisie weren't armed. We are.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at May 08, 2024 03:47 PM (NgqoH)

True. They have control of their "civilian" army and the regular army as well. They're pushing their chips in.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 08, 2024 03:52 PM (R4t5M)

The problem for the Junta is that the U.S. military is not configured to be deployed as an occupying force within the U.S. Most bases have a chain-link fence, some barbed wire and rock-filled ditches as their "fortifications" within the U.S. Civilians maintain equipment and supply the food services. Military members and their families live off-base.

It would be asymmetric warfare of the worst nightmare.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop
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My guess is something like Lebanon's Civil War at worst or a time of troubles like Northern Ireland was for decades.

But, there is a reason that the Sov Union went quietly at the end and that is becuz nukes that were not secured in many of the newly independent republics. Now, imagine that in the US. The soft university elite commies have no intention in dying for the cause even if their footsoldiers in antifa will.

Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 04:07 PM (peJ7P)

243 PC Mag reports that Microsoft is making a fresh investment in AI by building a new data center in Racine, Wisconsin, with a price tag of $3.3 billion. This move comes after a previous plan by Apple’s Taiwanese third-party iPhone manufacturer, Foxconn, to construct a display screen factory on the same land fell through. Microsoft promises the new data center will create around 2,300 union construction jobs and 2,000 permanent jobs.

... I've seen this movie before ... history can repeat

Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 04:08 PM (RHGPo)

244 She's at the Atlantis in the Bahamas.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 08, 2024 04:07 PM (IGKzA)
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Drat. I missed a chance to throw another alliterative "B" word in there.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:08 PM (HnUIn)

245 236
After the meltdown of the EV investment projects in NC, "domestic fertilizer" sounds like something Dems can get behind.

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2024 04:06 PM (rj6Yv)
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Biden will drop the first shovelful? Or Depends?

Posted by: Ciampino - Volare Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu at May 08, 2024 04:08 PM (qfLjt)

246 This hilarious and fitting, GOP members sponsers bill that all anti Jewish protesters be sent to Gaza. No way in hell it passes, but good for him:

https://tinyurl.com/y64x7upv

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 08, 2024 04:09 PM (XkYcA)

247 >>> http://tiny.cc/97r0yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:58 PM (HnUIn)

Nice.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:05 PM (9yWhg)

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Is it live, or memorex.

Posted by: Turn 2 at May 08, 2024 04:10 PM (a+K26)

248 Looking ominous outside….

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 04:10 PM (PCK5/)

249 Paul Ryan Declares: I Won’t Vote Trump

The rest of humanity declares "who cares?".

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:11 PM (CsUN+)

250 PC Mag reports that Microsoft is making a fresh investment in AI by building a new data center in Racine, Wisconsin, with a price tag of $3.3 billion. This move comes after a previous plan by Apple’s Taiwanese third-party iPhone manufacturer, Foxconn, to construct a display screen factory on the same land fell through. Microsoft promises the new data center will create around 2,300 union construction jobs and 2,000 permanent jobs.

... I've seen this movie before ... history can repeat
Posted by: SMOD at May 08, 2024 04:08 PM (RHGPo)
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Apparently Biden has been talking about it in the context of "Trump's failed Foxconn plant will instead be a high-tech AI center thanks to me, Joe Biden and my policies."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:11 PM (HnUIn)

251 I wish my black kids hadn't heard of computers. They haven't done much good for kids, so far as I can tell.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 08, 2024 04:03 PM (0FoWg)

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[ICYMI from the Morning Rant thread:]

End Wokeness
@EndWokeness

This just won the internet for today. Hands down.

tinyurl.com/ptnd54ms

Posted by: redridinghood at May 08, 2024 09:11 AM (NpAcC)

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 08, 2024 04:11 PM (t6VO+)

252 Looking ominous outside….
Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 04:10 PM (PCK5/)
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We had a proper toad-stangler earlier today. I was driving in it. Not fun.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:11 PM (HnUIn)

253 Chance of baseball sized hail…

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 04:13 PM (PCK5/)

254 This just won the internet for today. Hands down.

tinyurl.com/ptnd54ms

Needed Thus Spake Zarathustra as the music.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:13 PM (CsUN+)

255 Chance of baseball sized hail…
Posted by: tubal

Where are you?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:14 PM (9yWhg)

256 247 >>> http://tiny.cc/97r0yz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 03:58 PM (HnUIn)

Nice.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:05 PM (9yWhg)

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Is it live, or memorex.

Posted by: Turn 2 at May 08, 2024 04:10 PM (a+K26)

Those balcony pillars ruin the overall optics of the view, IMHO.

Posted by: Gref at May 08, 2024 04:14 PM (5fDan)

257 800 professors?

Methinks I sense administrative and bureaucratic bloat.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 08, 2024 04:14 PM (ufFY8)

258 Chance of baseball sized hail…
Posted by: tubal

Where are you?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:14 PM (9yWhg)

Southern Mo…

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 04:14 PM (PCK5/)

259 Those balcony pillars ruin the overall optics of the view, IMHO.
Posted by: Gref

Not of the two parts that matter most.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:15 PM (9yWhg)

260 Mar 11, 2024 · The $6 million budget shortfall facing the University of North Carolina Asheville is forcing a reorganization of the school, resulting in faculty layoffs, early retirements, and cuts to academic programs. UNCA’s sharp decline in enrollment — down 22.2 percent from 2018 to 2023, the steepest decline of any of the 16 schools in the UNC system ...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2024 03:38 PM (XeU6L)
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It's because nobody can afford to go there any more. Asheville is the only major-ish city in Western NC, and it USED to be a school a lot of lower-income kids that lived in that area would apply to because it's close and affordable, and admissions generally were pretty lax.

With how expensive higher ed has gotten, there are probably about sixteen high school seniors in the 828 area code that can afford to go there. And unless you're just a hippie's hippie, you're not going to apply there from out of state.

Posted by: ballistic at May 08, 2024 04:15 PM (Q6N34)

261 Largely because of the influx of locusts. Last election, less than half of the voters were NC natives.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2024 04:00 PM (XeU6L)
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Ah. See California circa 1975,

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2024 04:15 PM (YqDXo)

262 Where are you?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:14 PM (9yWhg)

Southern Mo…
Posted by: tubal

Near Joplin?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:15 PM (9yWhg)

263 Michael Moore says taking over university buildings is NOT violence.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 08, 2024 04:16 PM (63Dwl)

264 258 Southern Mo…
Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 04:14 PM (PCK5/)

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What do you think happened to tubal?

Probably died while writing. You know, "Mooooo...." and then dead.

If tubal were dying he would have just said "Moooo..." he wouldn't have written it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

265

Just saw on Poso that that shitstain Ryan isn't voting for Trump again.

I dislike that chump quite a lot.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at May 08, 2024 04:16 PM (et1vG)

266 261 Largely because of the influx of locusts. Last election, less than half of the voters were NC natives.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2024 04:00 PM (XeU6L)

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And yet, Republicans have a supermajority in the legislature?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

267 How many are actually teaching classes and how many are "research"?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 08, 2024 03:43 PM (w0gh0)

I'm not sure why research is in quotes, unless you're referring to Studies departments. Then it's entirely appropriate.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:16 PM (CsUN+)

268 Not to mention that UNC-A was woke before we knew what woke was. I haven't been back to the area in 15 years but it was crunchy as all hell in 2000, so I imagine that the left has fully ruined it at this point.

Posted by: ballistic at May 08, 2024 04:17 PM (Q6N34)

269 262 Where are you?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:14 PM (9yWhg)

Southern Mo…
Posted by: tubal

Near Joplin?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:15 PM (9yWhg)

Northeast a little ways…

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 04:17 PM (PCK5/)

270
Chance of baseball sized hail…
Posted by: tubal

Go outside witha a baseball bat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 08, 2024 04:17 PM (63Dwl)

271 800 professors?

Methinks I sense administrative and bureaucratic bloat.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 08, 2024 04:14 PM (ufFY

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Chapel Hill has 20,000 undergrads and 12,000 grad students. It has around 4,000 faculty members (much more staff, but if they're professors, they're probably faculty).

The overall ratio is 8 students per faculty member, which isn't the most insane I've seen.

But 800 professors represent 20% of the entire faculty. That's astonishing and darkly depressing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:17 PM (HnUIn)

272 OMG! They were lying to Chris!

Chris Cuomo says he is taking ivermectin, says we were given "bad information" during the pandemic and wonders why 👀

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 08, 2024 04:17 PM (L/fGl)

273 I think at this point it is evident that the internet has done more harm than good.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:06 PM (HnUIn)

I think it's a social/cultural issue. I'd like it if Internet access joined wine and guns as adult things whose use are dictated in the family, as far as if/when they're used by the kids.

I think we'll get there. We can't keep pretending this is an unalloyed good forever.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 08, 2024 04:18 PM (0FoWg)

274 Missouri and Tennessee border the most other states of any states.

Missouri always strikes me as weird because it borders both Tennessee and Nebraska. The South on one end and the Great Plains on the other.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:18 PM (9yWhg)

275 That preamble is so that it's clear that I do comprehend the losses and missed opportunities that their absence would represent when I saw that I think at this point it is evident that the internet has done more harm than good.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:06 PM (HnUIn)

Look at what the internet has done to the MSM's stranglehold on media distribution. The communists have done everything in their power to censor speech and to control the narrative. We've seen the street fighters deployed, the federal security forces unleashed, bullshit prosecutions against non-approved candidates, and yet, they can't stop the signal.

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2024 04:18 PM (rj6Yv)

276 Is there a list anywhere of colleges which had no pro-Hamas, anti Israel protests? Perhaps parents of kids in high school who want to send their kids to college should be made aware of that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 08, 2024 04:18 PM (XkYcA)

277 274 Missouri and Tennessee border the most other states of any states.

Missouri always strikes me as weird because it borders both Tennessee and Nebraska. The South on one end and the Great Plains on the other.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:18 PM (9yWhg)

Yeah… a Union Slave State…

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 04:19 PM (PCK5/)

278 Mar 11, 2024 · The $6 million budget shortfall facing the University of North Carolina Asheville is forcing a reorganization of the school, resulting in faculty layoffs, early retirements, and cuts to academic programs. UNCA’s sharp decline in enrollment — down 22.2 percent from 2018 to 2023, the steepest decline of any of the 16 schools in the UNC system ..

Do you have any DEI administrators? If you haven't cut those first, I have no interest in your problems.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:19 PM (CsUN+)

279 The internet in and of itself is a net good.

Social media should be banished and we should apologize to two generations of kids that it has ruined.

Posted by: ballistic at May 08, 2024 04:20 PM (Q6N34)

280 Yeah… a Union Slave State…
Posted by: tubal

Along with Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, and, eventually, West Virginia.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:21 PM (9yWhg)

281 The overall ratio is 8 students per faculty member, which isn't the most insane I've seen.

But 800 professors represent 20% of the entire faculty. That's astonishing and darkly depressing.

Yes, but don't assume they are evenly distributed across all departments. I'd be willing to bet that very few come from STEM or medicine. The departments which are overrepresented (Studies) are expendable.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:21 PM (CsUN+)

282 280 Yeah… a Union Slave State…
Posted by: tubal

Along with Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, and, eventually, West Virginia.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:21 PM (9yWhg)

Lots of in-state fighting and looong term Bad Blood here..

Posted by: tubal at May 08, 2024 04:22 PM (PCK5/)

283 And yet, Republicans have a supermajority in the legislature?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

And a conservative majority of justices on the NC Supreme Court.

And Mark Robinson will be our next governor.

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2024 04:22 PM (rj6Yv)

284 263 Michael Moore says taking over university buildings is NOT violence.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 08, 2024 04:16 PM (63Dwl)

He also says forcing everyone into a DeepState Universal Health 'Care' System is Democracy, forcing everyone to drive an EV is Democracy, confiscating all citizen-owned guns is Democracy, and not getting his way is anti-Democracy.

Posted by: Gref at May 08, 2024 04:22 PM (5fDan)

285 Do you have any DEI administrators? If you haven't cut those first, I have no interest in your problems.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 08, 2024 04:19 PM (CsUN+)
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Per their website, UNC-Chapel Hill has nine staffers that come up when does a search just for persons in the "UO Diversity and Inclusion" department. Three more in the "Student Affairs LGBTQ Center" department. Some are grad students.

But there's at least 12 people right there, and those are just the obvious ones. What do you suppose the total carriage cost is for those 12 people in terms of salary and benefits? They can probably make up a third to a half of the shortfall right there.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:23 PM (HnUIn)

286 What Michael Moore does to an all-you-can-eat buffet IS violence.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:23 PM (9yWhg)

287 disney nood

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 08, 2024 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

288 I think at this point it is evident that the internet has done more harm than good.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

One word: Pornhub.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 08, 2024 04:23 PM (L/fGl)

289 Lots of in-state fighting and looong term Bad Blood here..
Posted by: tubal

Still Bad Blood?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 08, 2024 04:24 PM (9yWhg)

290 Michael Moore says taking over university buildings is NOT violence.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 08, 2024 04:16 PM (63Dwl)
________________

But taking over an "all you can eat" buffet, on the other hand ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2024 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

291 Per their website, UNC-Chapel Hill has nine staffers that come up when does a search just for persons in the "UO Diversity and Inclusion" department. Three more in the "Student Affairs LGBTQ Center" department. Some are grad students.

But there's at least 12 people right there, and those are just the obvious ones. What do you suppose the total carriage cost is for those 12 people in terms of salary and benefits? They can probably make up a third to a half of the shortfall right there.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 08, 2024 04:23 PM (HnUIn)
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They probably have an obscene budget for DEI-related activities as well in addition to the salary/benefits.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 08, 2024 04:24 PM (7fElN)

292 "Bloody Kansas". Read up on Quantrill's raid during the Civil War.
Bad blood ndeed.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (iNp3L)

293 But 800 professors represent 20% of the entire faculty. That's astonishing and darkly depressing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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I don't find it surprising at all. The rot is worse at the flagship schools and that is because they recruit faculty from the Ivies and the rarer Stanford or Berkeley grads. They do so because of the archaic guild nature of academia and because networks of alums grease the tracks of federal and private research grants.

The Southern flagship universities actually resisted a bit more from the turn to the left by academia in the 50's and 60's and that is because primarily segregation limited its appeal for jobs to Northern and Western graduate students.

During the segregation era, the Southern public universities had all sorts of public fights with governors and state legislatures and in at least one case leading a state (Ga) to set its Board of Regents up as its own constitutional boss on a lot of internal matters. This happened after UGA lost its accreditation over firing a couple of professors over their public support for integration.

Posted by: whig at May 08, 2024 04:25 PM (peJ7P)

294 What in the hades was that statement? But because she is a dem we just pretend it didn’t happen? Honestly, she is a troll. The real kind.

Posted by: Piper at May 08, 2024 04:07 PM (p4NUW)

I've been teaching online college classes for nine years now, with students of all ethnicities, all economic backgrounds, ages ranging from dual-enrolled high-schoolers to Vietnam vets. In that time, I have had one (1) student who couldn't use a computer well enough to get through the class without significant help. He was from... Haiti.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at May 08, 2024 04:26 PM (LLJRz)

295 Michael Moore is a big fat Marxist

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2024 04:27 PM (fwDg9)

296 They tore down the American Flag and replaced it with a Palestinian flag.

They tore down the American Flag and replaced it with a Palestinian flag.

800 'Profs' wrote a letter in approval.

800 'Profs' wrote a letter in approval.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 08, 2024 05:08 PM (lCWOD)

297 Sounds like Extortion to me have the whole UNC arrested and Charged with Extortion

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 08, 2024 05:56 PM (wGqjj)

298 Oh yes, fire them. Fire them for cause.

Then sue them for tortuous interference, since they're keeping the college from doing the job it gets paid by those students to do.

I'd say start damages at full annual tuition times however many students that professor obstructs. And add on potential lost alumni donations.

Posted by: GWB at May 08, 2024 06:48 PM (JbvjD)

299 How about a trip to Gitmo?

Posted by: Rechill at May 08, 2024 06:53 PM (4PBYb)

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